IRC log for #wowace on 20101212

00:07.09Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r13 / (4 files in 2 directories): v0.9.0-beta3
00:07.10Repo* Fix for embedded libs
00:08.27Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v0.9.1-beta3 * r14 : Tagging as v0.9.1-beta3
00:09.34Ackiskagaro: don't suppose gathermate works for archaeology?
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00:11.29Repo10sell-o-matic-2 (experimental): 03Silmano 04a015 * 88892f5 /: [new tag, +1 commits] msg
00:13.16kagaroAckis:  yes it does
00:13.59Ackissweet, time to enable it for my main (enchanting/alchy).... I only used it on alts that had herbing/mining before
00:15.15Sintackswhat do i need to read to make an addon that just has a /command to do a few lines of /in commands
00:16.07Pneumatusa macro
00:16.17Sintackstoo long to fit in a macro.
00:16.30Sintacksi've got three macos chained together with /click and i just want to make it all in one thing
00:17.19Repo10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-48-g4b46b3b / (6 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits]
00:17.20Repo4b46b3b: Added preliminary data for "Seafood Magnifique Feast" (obtained via an achievement).
00:17.21Repo0cc312a: Added support for recipes which are obtained via achievements.
00:18.47Ackis@project handynotes
00:18.48RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes/. HandyNotes. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 59 days ago. Tickets: 1/16
00:19.04Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.4-2-g47e24b7 Squire2.lua: [+1 commit] Workaround the "moonkin form prevents mounting" bug (ticket #22).
00:19.58TorhalAckis: pompy will now kill me. I touched his sacred database.
00:20.18Ackishehe
00:20.27TorhalThough I'm about to fondle the motherfucker if he keeps taking his time.
00:20.36TorhalPeople are starting to bring pitchforks...
00:23.29AckisI wonder if a replacement of astrolib in handynotes would be "easy"
00:31.29Torhalkagaro: The GatherMate2 options are totally fubar
00:32.01vhaarrTorhal: that's my fault
00:32.02vhaarrbut how so?
00:33.22Fiskerslaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
00:34.29HirsuteSintacks: Another option for you would be to install something like WoWLua and use the code on-the-fly there.
00:35.01Sintacksyou just confused the hell out of me for a second by switching channels
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00:36.59HirsuteSintacks: Ah, you asked the same question in both channels, and I was scrolled back in both, had the second thought come to mind and clicked until I found the line in the backscroll.
00:37.12Sintackslol
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00:49.11FiskerAckis
00:51.17XinhuanAckis, not easy
00:51.23Xinhuanwhich is why i haven't done it
00:51.46harlargh. all of a sudden, i get tiny stalls again every time when looting and a few seconds into combat as well as when combat ends.
00:51.57Xinhuanastrolabe's changes basically breaks the whole addon and most of the iterators
00:51.59harllike dropouts. and i didn't even logout or anything
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00:55.55Xinhuanthe whole addon was designed around how astrolabe handles maps by their C, Z values
00:55.58Xinhuanthat's totally gone
00:56.45Xinhuanfixing it will require a compat layer written, plus support for non-continental maps
00:56.46Xinhuansuch as instances
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00:58.16Hati!api RestartGx
00:58.16lua_botRestartGx: Restart the client's graphic subsystem (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RestartGx)
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01:01.48harlsucks -.- ever since the first cataclysm patch i've been having this issue again and again.
01:02.10harlit seems to come and go laughing at my efforts to get rid of it, as it happens even without any addons at all and cleaning the cache doesn't help either.
01:03.42apejensargh..
01:03.43apejenshttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/BNGetNumFriendToons
01:03.50apejensit only returns number of _online_ friends??
01:04.03apejenswill that _ever_ be more than 1?
01:04.14Pneumatusyes
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01:04.26Pneumatusmultiple wow accounts on a single bnet account
01:04.57harlyea, more spying on other players
01:05.21Sintacksblarg. i hate learning a new language. :|
01:05.23harl"you're my friend, you can't hide from me!!!!1"
01:09.49Repo10mob-spells: 03Rabbit * r90 MobSpells.lua: If the NPC ID is 0, don't show anything in the tooltip.
01:10.12SinusPiYyyeah, the BN support needs WAY more options :/ Hide from friends, nickname friends...
01:21.39ArrowmasterXinhuan: fyi ive sorta just made the EOL announcement for FuBar
01:22.10Xinhuankk
01:22.23Arrowmasterand possibly started a flame war
01:22.28Arrowmasternot sure yet
01:22.42Xinhuanover who will maintain it?
01:22.54Arrowmasteryeah see the curse comments
01:23.09Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r49 Breakables.lua:
01:23.09Xinhuanif u want more curse points, you could fix it lolz
01:23.10Repo- added option to specify which direction the buttons grow toward by Slayman's request
01:23.33Arrowmasteri do want more points, but i dont think its fixable
01:24.29SlaymanParnic: muche <3
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01:28.50Pneumatusgod knows why anyone would still be using fubar, bazooka is a drop-in replacement basically
01:29.20Xinhuana rewrite wouldn't take you more than a few days
01:29.22Xinhuantbh
01:29.40harleverything can be fixed one way of the other. *readies his flamethrower*
01:29.48harlof=or
01:31.04harlfits the sc2 theme more though i guess ;)
01:37.00apejensargh.. so the presenceID of RealID friends also change..
01:37.14apejensnot only between chars, but between logins!
01:40.29Xinhuangrats, you found out the truth ;p
01:40.46Xinhuanthe "real name" is also a placeholder string that changes between logins
01:40.57Xinhuanthat is only rendered as the true real name by the renderer
01:41.06apejensyeah
01:41.11apejensI found out that yesterday :p
01:41.23Xinhuanthis was a 4.0.1 change
01:41.28Xinhuanabout a month ago
01:41.37Xinhuan5 weeks
01:41.39apejensI only started addon development 3 days or so ago
01:42.24apejensbut man, the API designers at blizz could take a course or two in API design.
01:42.42Groktaraw, does sexycooldown not work in 4.0?
01:42.51apejensworks for me?
01:45.12Yssarilapejens: some of the api is accient and has been added to parts removed etc and they only create stuff for what they need generally not what addon authers might want
01:45.42apejensyeah, but still, this API must be horrid to work with if they use it in-house as well
01:46.14orgevono, I'm fairly certain that they intentionally change parameters and return value types for fun
01:46.15Yssarilbut inhouse they can just say hey i need a function (api) for this and then do it
01:46.46Arrowmasterinhouse they dont say it, they just go do it
01:46.55Yssarilhehe true
01:47.31apejenshms, perhaps I can abuse the Set Note
01:47.53apejensis that cross-char?
01:48.01Repo10archud3: 03nyyr * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): adjusted version tag
01:48.01Arrowmasterand only a small number of there developers ever work on the Lua interface
01:48.05orgevohow come it seems to work in NotesUNeed?
01:49.05Torhalvhaarr: I can type /gathermate and get nothing. If I use the LDB launcher, I get the submenu for which nodes to show and when.
01:49.42Groktarhmm
01:50.26apejenswhoho, the SetFriendNote is cross-char :p
01:50.45Hati<3 Potion of Illusion
01:51.27vhaarrTorhal: get nothing as in /nothing/ happens?
01:52.01Torhalvhaarr: Yup, and no errors.
01:52.04vhaarrah I see the LDB problem
01:52.05vhaarrokay will fix
01:52.08vhaarrafter this heroic :P
01:52.12TorhalHehe
01:54.31Repo10archud3: 03nyyr 04v1.0 * r57 : Tagging as v1.0
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02:13.06Slaymanhey is there like a next lvl dragon's eye?
02:14.01Repo10gathermate2: 03Rabbit 07master * 1.0.6.1-5-g1b0c8f2 Config.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the LDB plugin.
02:14.06vhaarrTorhal: the slash command works perfectly here
02:15.41SlaymanI see chimera's eye
02:20.10vhaarrulic: you there?
02:22.14Ingelai'm having huuuuugeee performance issues with new rawr, does anyone know why?
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02:27.29Torhalvhaarr: Odd.
02:27.52vhaarrTorhal: do you have gathermate 1 conflicting with it perhaps?
02:28.53TorhalNope - I uninstalled it when I installed GM2. The slash command worked fine last night.
02:28.58mckenziemcfor a release quality library, the project should have a version number in the name, and any new major version should have it's own project right?
02:29.50Torhalmckenziemc: Correct
02:30.09mckenziemcsince, even though we can tell the packager to name the folder differently, and other projects can link to the right tag in the .pkgmeta, the curse client would not be able to tell which major to install?
02:30.35mckenziemcwhen doing no-lib installs*
02:30.42Arrowmasterright
02:30.59mckenziemcty
02:37.24vhaarrTorhal: does the LDB plugin work now?
02:40.40Repo10gathermate2: 03Rabbit 07master * 1.0.6.1-6-g0dfc245 Config.lua: [+1 commit] :Print was from AceConsole, so use print instead.
02:45.27apejenswhat will fire first, my addon:OnInitialize, or a friends BN_FRIEND_ACCOUNT_ONLINE?
02:46.09apejensor is it undetermined?
02:47.14Repo10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r123 TankPointsCalculator.xml: - Fix 'this' bug; passing "self" to script calls
02:47.15Repo- Fixed dragging of calculator frame bug
02:49.53mckenziemcOnInitialize and OnEnable
02:49.59Torhalvhaarr: LDB plugin now does nothing at all.
02:50.10vhaarrTorhal: wtf is wrong with your interface options dude
02:50.20vhaarrthis is the same code I use for bigwigs
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02:51.10TorhalAnd BigWigs is empty if I navigate there directly
02:51.14TorhalI had data there before
02:51.17TorhalHrm
02:51.49vhaarryeah it loads onshow, but clearly you have something that prevents the interfaceoptions from working properly
02:51.49TorhalBigWigs Encounters is populated
02:52.02vhaarryeah that loads separately based on modules loading
02:52.08mckenziemcapejens: assuming you're using AceEvent and not doing anything to change the normal order AceAddon uses to load your addon, your event won't be registered until after OnEnable is called (since that's where you're registering for the BN event
02:52.11mckenziemc)
02:52.21Torhalvhaarr: Ok, if you don't have BlizzBugsSuck installed, see if that does it.
02:52.30vhaarryou want me to install that?
02:52.38apejensmckenziemc: I think you missed the "A friends"? :)
02:52.53TorhalOnly thing I can think of that mucks with InterfaceOptions
02:52.54apejensits not I registring for events, it is presuming I have a friend online, listening for events of when I come online
02:53.04mckenziemcoh, you mean the one the friend recieves from your login
02:53.05TorhalActually
02:53.06vhaarrTorhal: but you can just disable it and /rl ?
02:53.07TorhalLemme disable
02:53.09vhaarrright
02:53.10TorhalBah :P
02:53.14TorhalI'm dainbread
02:53.14mckenziemci thuoght you meant the one you recieve from your friend
02:53.14vhaarrinstead of me restarting the client etc
02:53.15vhaarrjeez
02:53.17vhaarr:P
02:54.10apejensmckenziemc: no, the one a friend gets when I log in
02:54.24mckenziemcprobably OnInitialize, assuming BN_FRIEND_ACCOUNT_ONLINE doesn't fire until your character actually logs in
02:54.37TorhalMeh. Wasn't the issue.
02:54.41mckenziemcsince your character isn't actually zoned in till PLAYER_LOGIN
02:55.15mckenziemcunfortunately blizzard made it so you can't friend yourself even if you have two wow accounts, so i can't test it : /
02:56.26TorhalFuck it. I'm too non-functioning to deal with this right now...I'll watch Supernatural instead.
02:56.53apejensmckenziemc: ok, thanks for help :)
02:59.31apejensediting wowprogramming, is it better to leave a function totally undocumented, or add what I know?
03:00.37Parnicpersonally i'd add what i know
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03:07.35kagarohrmm wonder why git fails with high latency
03:10.32kagaronvm
03:11.48kagaroisp is jacking up yet again
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03:15.20Repo10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r124 / (6 files in 1 directory):
03:15.21Repo- Inital crack at taking on Cataclysm changes (removal of defense, etc)
03:15.22Repo- Switched to use LibStatLogic 1.2 (Ace3)
03:16.47Repo10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r125 Locales (9 files in 1 directory): - New locale files
03:18.29Repo10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r126 / (7 files in 1 directory): - deleting older locale files
03:19.03Repo10gathermate2: 03Rabbit 07master * 1.0.6.1-7-ga843c5c / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Sort the filter lists by skill, if available. And add the missing skill for the cata mining nodes.
03:19.34apejensParnic: for breakables and enchanting level, it's not based on item level any more?
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03:26.38Repo10libstatlogic-1-2: 03JackTripper * r30 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua:
03:26.39Repo- added error checking for invalid stat being passed to GetStatMod
03:26.40Repo- Paladins get 11.6 health per stamina (10 * 1.16) ["MOD_HEALTH"]
03:29.20Repo10tank-points: 03JackTripper * r127 TankPointsCalculator.lua: - Calculator also now uses LibStatLogic 1.2
03:31.11Parnictuller - you be button facade man, right? i'm trying to put support for it in my mod and it's laying the skin over my tetxure (because i use a separate method for assigning texture)
03:31.35Parnicso i'm looking for guidance on how to make the texture play nicely with buttonfacade. i assume i should be calling SetNormalTexture on the button instead of creating an icon to go with it
03:31.58TorhalParnic: I think you're thinking of StormFX
03:32.36Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r142 ProfessionsVault.lua: smarter update message
03:32.43Parnick, my bad :)
03:32.54Parnici couldn't find a dedicated page for LBF. i just see it hard-embedded in dominos
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03:54.27BWMerlinrepo about professionsvault
03:54.40BWMerlinrepo describe professionsvault
03:54.41RepoBWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/professionsvault/. ProfessionsVault. Simple and super light-weight tracking of profession links for all your alts.
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04:06.09Clamgormorauntnot sure if this is the right place to ask, and don't expect anyone to tell me the answer outright, just confused by some of the stuff i've read on researching an error, would it be too much to post the error and get a reasonable response on at least where to figure it out at least or at most tell me how to fix it?
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04:16.41Clamgormorauntguess i'll ask again tomorrow during the day for me, maybe more will be on or not afk, thanks the same though
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05:14.30Parnictuller in bagBar.lua where does _G[b:GetName() .. 'IconTexture'] get set to something?
05:14.42Parnic(dominos)
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05:37.48Parnicnvm, i figured out what i needed
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05:40.31Gnarfoz@project clcinfo
05:40.32RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'clcinfo'
05:41.09Gnarfoz@project clctracker
05:41.10RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clctracker/. clcInfo. Game: WoW. abija (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 days ago. Tickets: 1/6
05:54.47Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r50 / (4 files in 1 directory): - added ButtonFacade support (ticket #7)
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06:13.22Parnic!api GameTooltip
06:13.23lua_botFound 75 possible matches for 'GameTooltip'.  Please be more specific
06:13.27Parnic!api GameTooltip:SetSpellByID
06:13.28lua_botGameTooltip:SetSpellByID: Fills the tooltip with information about a spell specified by ID (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetSpellByID)
06:13.41Parnicpff. wowpedia didn't know that existed.
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06:14.49Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r51 Breakables.lua: - added spell tooltip to profession button
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06:22.10Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r52 Breakables.lua: - minor garbage/performance fixes
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06:31.11Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r53 / (2 files in 2 directories):
06:31.12Repo- added extra info to the button tooltips to explain general usage
06:39.22Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r54 embeds.xml:
06:39.23Repo- fixed ace library load order such that acegui loads before aceconfig (since ACD requires acegui)
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06:41.30Repo10breakables: 03Parnic 041.3 * r55 : Tagging as 1.3
06:44.18Repo10repairbroker: 03Parnic 044.0.1-3 * r55 : Tagging as 4.0.1-3
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07:02.18Repo10gathermate2_data: 03kagaro * r29 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate2_Data: Data update
07:02.24Repo10gathermate2_data: 03kagaro 04v2.0 * r30 : GatherMate2_Data: Data update
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07:30.12Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r15 / (11 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:30.13Repov0.9.2-beta1
07:30.14Repo+ Added new items and incremented stock indicators
07:30.16Repo+ Added criterias 'New' and 'Incremented' to complement
07:30.16Repo* Free bags LDB Display now open bags on left click and config on right click
07:31.36Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v0.9.2-beta1 * r16 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:31.37RepoVersion: v0.9.2-beta1:
07:31.38Repo+ Added new items and incremented stock indicators
07:31.39Repo+ Added criterias 'New' and 'Incremented' to complement
07:31.41Repo* Free bags LDB Display now open bags on left click and config on right click
07:32.21Repo10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r37 / (4 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:32.22Repov4.0.3.14
07:32.23RepoPlease help translate (NOT WITH GOOGLE)
07:32.24RepoI still need 5 Spanish, and 2 Korean phrases translated from English.
07:32.26Repohttp://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/
07:33.12Repo10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v4.0.3.14 * r38 : Tagging as v4.0.3.14
08:01.50Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r17 famBagsButtons.lua: v0.9.2-beta1
08:01.50Repo* Minor bug fixed
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10:37.59Repo10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.0-4-g721f27e Mapster.lua: [+1 commit] Proxy :SetScale on the dig site blob frame as well, so it doesn't go boom in combat.
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10:53.27mckenziemc1hello
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11:06.41mckenziemcis there a way i could look at the source code of the packager?
11:09.38nevcairielhttp://hg.curseforge.net/www/curseforge-packager/mainline
11:09.57Elkanodamn, you beat me by seconds ^^
11:11.47mckenziemcty
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11:20.40mckenziemchmm, preprocessor.py contains code that deals with "no-ext-strip", is that a working substitution that's just undocmented, or is it not functional?
11:20.58mckenziemcas opposed to no-lib-strip
11:21.58nevcairielsounds like a remnant from before, no-ext-strip was renamed to no-lib-strip
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11:23.10mckenziemc1i just got disconnected so if anyone answered my last question, i didn't see it
11:23.43nevcairielsounds like a remnant from before, no-ext-strip was renamed to no-lib-strip
11:24.15mckenziemc1it's alongside no-lib-strip
11:24.28mckenziemc1like it does the opposite
11:25.06mckenziemc1i know nothing about python though and found it after searching for no-lib
11:28.17mckenziemcoh i see what you mean
11:29.20mckenziemcwishful thinking got the better of me : /
11:42.11KriLL3fyk, pvping vs lone players with a healer, melee dps and ranged dps might in theory sound like good strategy, it will ensure every single one nearby teams up to hunt you like animals
11:42.38KriLL3I don't mind fighting groups, but with a dedicated healer you might as well not even try
11:43.26KriLL3especially since healers can heal themselves from now until forever and their mana doesn't show it
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11:46.00mckenziemchello Thaoky
11:46.06mckenziemcloves Altoholic
11:47.37Thaokyhello :)
11:50.39apejensdon't we all mckenziemc :)
11:53.51Caleb|yxcv01vcxy
11:54.07apejenstime to change PW Caleb| ? :p
11:54.36Caleb|not my password tho, but idd
11:54.37Caleb|:D
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11:55.24apejensis it easy/possible to add things to standard context menues? Like the one on the friends list?
11:58.04Hatihmm
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12:05.46znf_Hi!
12:06.02znf_Anyone used Rawr4?
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12:38.32harli wonder why my keyboard allows me to hold down Q and press shift+<number> at the same time, but not hold W and do the same
12:39.40CrazyBennyis it gaming keyboard? those allow you tu push Q in all situations :p
12:41.53orgevo_i wonder why the extra buttons on my wow mouse don't seem to work anymore.. :\
12:43.57harlnah, my keyboard's just an old MS inet kb pro
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12:46.03harlorgevo_: did you recently unplug your wow mouse and probably used a different port/connector before then?
12:47.09harlsome drivers get all mixed up when devices and ports don't match exactly
12:48.00orgevo_Yes, but I did actually know about that fun little bug, so I uninstalled and reinstalled the mouse driver.   It still isn't working
12:48.41orgevo_works perfectly on my laptop (windows 7), but this "ancient" vista PC...
12:49.43orgevo_once, a long time ago, I ran across a page that described how to track down the registry entries reponsible for that crap.  wish I still had it laying around somewhere
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12:56.08DrachenHow do you determine which mod is causing FrameXML to generate errors?
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13:07.30orgevo_there's one, per se.  Only way to track those down is using common sense and a good bit of luck...but even then, it migth still lead you on a wild goose chase.  I had an issue in NotesUNeed that was causing the calender to not show any events that were created by a player....and NotesUNeed doesn't even think about the calender.  Turned out to be some native code in the GuildUI package that was initializing the calender before the calender
13:07.35orgevo_brb - reboot
13:14.52HatiDrachen: BugSack has mostly something like: "Error in <function> line 61: blubb"
13:14.54Hatistuff
13:15.04Hatiso you can atleast guess what kind of addon it is
13:18.43DrachenHati: This is what I get, over and over again -- Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:2492: attempt to compare nil with number:
13:18.57DrachenNothing more, nothing less.  Nothing in the FrameXML log.
13:19.01Hatilook into framexml uiparent
13:19.03Hatiline 2492
13:19.07Hati~framexml
13:19.07purlDownload FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
13:19.16Hatiat what function holds there
13:19.23Hatiso you can search your addons what calls it
13:19.26Hatior which one
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15:16.36Hatigosh worgen story > goblins
15:16.49apejensbut the goblin area is so much fun!
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16:09.13KriLL3anyone got any notion as to what's giving me my name above the minimap? got sexymap but can't find anything like that in there, it's class colored, black rounded background that's semi transparent black with a darker boarder
16:09.17KriLL3obscuring the zone name
16:09.31harlapejens: not to every one it is
16:09.43ElkanoKriLL3, last one who pinged the minimap?
16:09.47KriLL3ah
16:09.51KriLL3it's been there for... hours
16:09.56KriLL3can I remove it?
16:10.05Elkanowell, it's just a guess ^^
16:10.17KriLL3yeah I remember now that it changes to show who pinged
16:10.26KriLL3but it never goes away
16:10.41harldeactivate the ping module?
16:11.06KriLL3done, didn't help, I'll try relogging also
16:11.21KriLL3that seems to have fixed
16:11.23KriLL3it
16:11.42harlnods. 'reloading can definitely help with orphaned frames.'
16:11.45kapipiHas there been made some change to macros that could be the cause of my mouseover macro not working as a I wan't to? The mouseover works fine, but I cant get it to cast on my target if I dont have a mouseover target.
16:12.12kapipi*as I want it to?
16:12.36KriLL3anyone btw knows if there is a way to make a macro that checks if your opponent is casting? or checks if you have one of those "!" spells? not sure what else to call them, things triggered by something
16:12.45harlkapipi: your macro is probably wrong then
16:12.53AntiarcKriLL3: It's the ping thing, I need to fix it.
16:13.05KriLL3Antiarc: yeah turned it off and it's working again
16:13.21harli don't have a problem with my macros
16:13.21KriLL3or rather, not showing, which is an improvement over always showing
16:13.25kapipiharl: hmm, might well be, I just cant spot it (might be the late hour)
16:13.30KriLL3I had to re-write some of my macros
16:13.44KriLL3feral forms had their names simplified etc
16:14.00harlwell, what's your macro then, kapipi
16:14.33kapipisomething like /cast [@mouseover][@target] Penance()
16:14.42kapipi(its been through a few different shapes)
16:15.32harlthat should work, as long as your target is a valid target for your spell
16:16.01kapipiright now my target is a training doll in SW :D
16:16.09kapipibut has been tried in the field too
16:16.35harlalso, you don't need to put the brackets behind the spell
16:17.32kapipioh
16:17.54harli know some addons like macaroon add those to macros they auto-create
16:17.57kapipiI usually shift-click in the spellbook to make sure the spell is spelled right
16:19.46kapipihmm cant get it to work, I wonder if something else is blocking
16:21.21harlmost of my macros are based on the same conditional structure, eventually [@pettarget] first with my warlock and hunter, then [@mouseover][@target], probably [] or [@player] after that. fits for both healing and dps
16:22.09kapipiHmm my old macro is working, but that one has [target=mouseover, help] as the first condition
16:22.23harlwell..
16:22.32harlof course you need a help or exists in there
16:22.52harli thought it was just a basic frame you were offering
16:23.34harlso it should be [@mouseover,help][@target]   .. or [@mouseover,exists][@target,(whatever,etc)]
16:23.45kapipihmm it works if I do [@mouseover,harm][@mouseover,help][@target]
16:23.48harlotherwise it won't check past the first condition
16:24.02harlyes
16:24.34kapipihmm
16:24.47kapipiso [@mouseover] will always be false?
16:25.24harl[@mouseover] is ok, as long as there is a unit mouseover
16:25.59harlbut [@mouseover][@target] would never check for a unit "target" because mousover didn't exist, if that's what you say
16:26.27kapipioh, I have misunderstood conditions then
16:26.39kapipifunny I have never run into this problem before
16:28.15kapipiI thought if was [condition] OR [condition]
16:39.53KriLL3anyone knows the term for when a spell is "opertune?" triggered by another spell, like arcane barrage for mages, ravage on druids after feral charge etc?
16:40.31KriLL3glows yellow
16:40.50SunTsuKriLL3: proc?
16:41.26KriLL3hmm, can't find anything related to those in the macros
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16:56.04Slayman1So Altoholic Blocks OPie from placing Environmental RaidMarkers, any thoughts on why? (WoW Message "An Addon has blocked ... [disable] [ignore]" ignore does not place a marker, and disable lets it function properly
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17:12.59Repo9df7ac6: Implement "Best Deal Anywhere" for Goblins. Dry coded, not fully tested.
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17:30.48Yoshimo@describe guildxp
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17:38.07KriLL3I wonder how hard blizz was hitting the shrooms when they designed http://www.wowhead.com/spell=88747 druids level 85 ability, a 789 dmg "totem"
17:38.24KriLL3oh and not castable in forms, and requires you to place it with the mouse, and all around... pointless
17:39.00Gnarfozwe've certainly used it to great effect already
17:39.01KriLL3I thought maxlevel stuff was supposed to be awesome?
17:39.12Hatiit is awesome
17:39.14Gnarfozyou're probably just on a whining spree
17:39.20KriLL3it's useless
17:39.21Gnarfoz(as I remember you to be likely to)
17:39.27HatiDamn guy, you are spawning mushrooms
17:39.29KriLL3800dmg is less than my autoattack
17:39.35Haticrazy mushrooms
17:39.43Gnarfozyou're useless. you can place 3 of them and they go boom for ~8k, each
17:39.49Hatiit's like mines
17:39.50Gnarfoznothing wrong about that
17:39.52KriLL3only if you're balance
17:40.00Hati...
17:40.01KriLL3only 800 a pop if you're resto/feral
17:40.02GnarfozNO SHIT only if you're balance
17:40.08Hatiso balance droods complain about rake?
17:40.19KriLL3rake isn't a level 85 ability
17:40.24Hatibut it could be
17:41.04KriLL3how many other classes got a level 85 ability that is useless for 2 of the 3 specs?
17:41.06Gnarfozyou're the reason we can't have nice things
17:41.24GnarfozKriLL3: guess what, my level 83 spell doesn't make sense for anything but holy
17:41.45Gnarfozsince you're so wise about game design, you'll know what class that is
17:42.02KriLL3doesn't both palas and priests have holy?
17:42.10KriLL3or is pala one named differently?
17:42.41Gnarfozof course both have holy trees, why else would there be a need to figure out which class I mean
17:43.08KriLL3sorry no notion as to what paladins/priests get
17:43.27KriLL3a ret pala sent some weird angel after me in pvp
17:43.34Gnarfozhe didn't.
17:43.38Gnarfozcan't control what the fucker does
17:43.56KriLL3well it hit me nontheless =P
17:43.58Gnarfozand level 83 is the PBAoE heal
17:44.39Gnarfozthat costs like 10k mana and does basically nothing for ret or prot, but do you see people whine about that? no, because that'd be unreasonable
17:45.05Gnarfozthere is no "feral druid" class, just druids. not all spells are great (or even useful) to all specs
17:45.07KriLL3haven't pvp:ed enough to get a good feel for the other classes yet, but so far warlocks/spriests seem the same, warrior can stun more and bladestorm is faster moving, rogues can heal themselves and mages got some ice circle thing
17:45.17Hatii like the new hunter aspect
17:45.30KriLL3hunters can run fast without getting dazed now
17:45.48Gnarfoz(druids can make other people run fast, yay)
17:45.57Hatithat awe-some
17:45.58KriLL3I tired it, seems to do nothing for me
17:46.09Hatiit's like shield but even more worthless
17:46.24Gnarfozworks just fine from what I've seen
17:46.30KriLL3I like the new natures grasph
17:46.35KriLL3less of a throw away thing
17:46.50KriLL3Gnarfoz: might speed up others fine, but it only increases my own speed like 10%
17:46.57HatiGnarfoz: refered the cooldown
17:47.13GnarfozHati: *scratch head*
17:47.23Hati3min cd for 40% group-moving speed
17:47.34Hatiwhich last 4seconds
17:48.06Gnarfozwe use it for corpse runs. :D
17:48.17KriLL3I guess it's good for very situational stuff, like flag runs, catching people on mounts etc
17:49.02KriLL3or getting past that annoying patrol
17:50.04KriLL3on a side note, zerking bear is awesome in pvp, 15k spammable mangle hitting 3 targets
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17:57.50KriLL3anyone knows btw if there is a setting/addon around that colors the gear in the character pane by quality? purple, blue etc
17:59.17Slayman1so scaling the minimapcluster does still screw up GM2 royally, my points are all over the minimap, moving over the map at a different speed then the scrolling
18:05.15HatiKriLL3: Fizzle iirc
18:05.22KriLL3?
18:05.36KriLL3ah thanks
18:05.39Hati@describe Fizzle
18:05.40RepoHati: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fizzle/. Fizzle. Show item durability and quality in the character frame.
18:05.50KriLL3found it in the client
18:25.45pakozis it possible to ask the client/server for the current absorb value on a target?
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18:26.02nevcairielno
18:26.43pakozah ; \  thank you.
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18:42.58arkanespakoz: if its something that has absorb values tracked, it'll be in the tooltip for the buff
18:43.06arkanespakoz: but lots of shields aren't tracked
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19:25.53Hatiomg talesweaver is coming global after 12 years
19:30.09harlfor a debuff that supposedly *only* gets not removed from the player when the grouper dies exactly the moment it applies the debuff, i've died much too often from "Grouper Bite" already
19:40.23Hatimeh
19:40.50HatiUnitGetGuildXP(unit) is not available at PLAYER_LOGIN ... PLAYER_ALIVE or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
19:41.01Hatiis there any event defenitly fired on login?
19:41.57Hatihmm GUILD_MOTD
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19:52.44Repo10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r46 Broker_AllXP.lua: AllXP :
19:52.45Repo- upped max level to 85
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19:57.22Repo10guildxp: 03xhatix * r17 main.lua: pseudo-fix for on-first-login load ...
19:57.28Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7643 Blackwing (2 files in 1 directory): fix option header errors
19:59.36orospakrThings that would be awesome: if more WoW addons tracked themselves in git. Then I could add them as git submodules in the git repo that I use in $WOW/Interface/AddOns.
20:00.11Industrialcheck github.com \o/
20:01.41orospakrooh.
20:02.19orospakrwell, I see a few things.
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20:03.49orospakrHeh, I do see a few folks that have uploaded their Interface/AddOns repositories.
20:03.57Repo10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r47 / (3 files in 2 directories): AllXP :
20:03.58Repo- pick up esES translation
20:04.45PrimerHey Archarodim, I noticed you posted a bug on FlightHUD
20:05.30Pneumatuskagaro: hc2 broadcasts to guild don't seem to be working
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20:05.41PrimerI'm looking for someone to test something for me
20:05.45Slayman1fukkin WoW I hate that game
20:06.26Primeractually, it just occurred to me that the person who I asked to test yesterday, who was a guildy with good intention using CC, may not have had the release threshold set to beta...
20:06.27Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7644 Blackwing (2 files in 1 directory):
20:06.28Reporename module since blizzard decided to change the encounters name from Omnitron to Omnotron, lulz?
20:08.30kagaroPneumatus: is it enabled? by default it was off
20:08.36Pneumatusyes, i have it enabled
20:08.42Pneumatusboth kills and loot, sent to guild
20:08.44kagarono bug sack errors?
20:08.45Pneumatusand nothing gets sent
20:08.47Pneumatusno errors either
20:09.05kagaroi know i tested those and saw guild messages being sent for bosses not sure if i tested loot 100%
20:09.14Pneumatusthe boss kill definatly got logged
20:09.15kagarobut everything is being trackered properly?
20:09.17Pneumatusi got a debug print for it
20:09.25Pneumatusand its in the tracker
20:09.41kagaroill have a look sometime tonight
20:12.12Repo10allxp: 03Zhinjio 041.6.1-release * r48 : Tagging as 1.6.1-release
20:12.18Pneumatusthink we're going to need aliases for tron council as well, as its 4 boss mobs + different in the lockout
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20:15.19orospakrbut yeah, I'd have to say, git submodules > curse. ;) by a lot.
20:15.54PrimerI've received a few bug reports with 'C stack overflow' in code that goes through Astrolabe
20:15.54orospakrespecially if you set all of your submodules to track the stable branches of all the mods you were tracking. :)
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20:21.35Pneumatusis there an addon about to place world makers that doesnt get screwed by taint like the default ones~?
20:24.09YssarilPneumatus: handynotes? havent tried it though
20:24.24Pneumatusno, raid markers, i mean
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20:24.52Yssarilahhhhh
20:25.20Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k * r19 / (6 files in 2 directories): v0.9.3-beta1
20:25.21Repo+ Added currencies to money frame based on blizzard's currency tracking
20:25.22Repo+ Added new LDB display to show money and currencies
20:25.23Repo* Minor bugs fixed
20:26.04Repo10fambags: 03fammy2k 04v0.9.3-beta1 * r20 : Version: v0.9.3-beta1
20:26.05Repo+ Added currencies to money frame based on blizzard's currency tracking
20:26.06Repo+ Added new LDB display to show money and currencies
20:26.08Repo* Minor bugs fixed
20:26.10YssarilPneumatus: havent tried it but a quick search turned up http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18958-MarkingBar.html
20:26.39Pneumatusmassive overkill :o
20:26.49Yssarilto say the least :P
20:26.51Pneumatusi just want to be able to place world raid markers
20:27.06Stanzillaopie works for me
20:27.56Parnicwhy not just bind the markers to something you don't normally use? i have 1-8 on my numpad bound to each marker and 0 to clear
20:29.11YssarilParnic: you can bind the raid markers? (not the ones for targets but the flairs)
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20:29.41Parnicthe little skull, cross, etc. markers, yeah.
20:30.19PneumatusParnic: you cant bind the flares
20:30.22Pneumatusthats what im talking about
20:30.40YssarilPneumatus: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18606-FlareUP.html maybe
20:30.41Parnicguess i've never used them, then
20:31.02Pneumatusflareup uses dropdownmenu by the looks of it
20:31.10Pneumatuswhich means it will suffer from the same taint the defualt ui one does
20:31.36Yssarildepends what it uses it for
20:32.19StanzillaPneumatus: well did you trie opie?
20:36.40Pneumatusnope, because I hate the way it works
20:39.04Stanzillaah
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20:42.20GnarfozI thought the latest consensus still was "can't be done" on the flares?
20:43.00Pneumatuswell, the function is protected, but doesnt that mean that a secure action button could call it?
20:43.23Gnarfozthere's... unclear definition of "protected" there
20:43.37Gnarfozdoesn't protected mean "only Blizzard UI can use, gtfo"?
20:45.17GnarfozI'm uncertain ^^
20:45.35Gnarfozthat'd be the reason why OPie is being suggested? it's entirely securebutton-stuff?
20:45.48Gnarfoz@describe smoker
20:45.49RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/smoker/. Smoker. This addon makes the blizzard Flares more accessible, and even usable for Partys.
20:55.05XuerianOn a slightly related note, do the new glow/worldmarkers work yet?
20:56.32Elkanohmm... I just found a post where someone claims that EBB supports 3-click-cancel in combat... didn't know of that... I don't even see why it would...
20:58.51GnarfozXuerian: slightly related? that's exactly what we were talking about ;D
20:59.04GnarfozElkano: what's that supposed to be? 3 click cancel?
20:59.05XuerianNot the flares, but the big glowy things? huh.
20:59.15Gnarfozthose are the same.
20:59.33XuerianOh, they just re-did flares then?
20:59.34Gnarfozthe glowy things replaced the flares late in beta
21:01.39ElkanoGnarfoz, first version of buff canceling via EBB was: click on a bar -> button appears -> left click to cancel -> right click to hide
21:01.51Gnarfozaugh that sounds painful
21:01.53Elkanofor 4.x that is
21:02.26Elkanonow I have a secure action button under every buff while ooc
21:02.51GnarfozI'd be fine with buff addons going the "if you want canceling, advanced filtering stuff will not be available; if you want that stuff, canceling will not work" route - seems like much less work
21:03.16Elkanostill since 4.x I see no way how it would have ever worked in combat (unless you didn't hide the button from 3-clik)
21:03.41Gnarfozyeah, in combat sounds rather unbelievable
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21:04.22Elkanowell, that's what I intend with EBB3... but doing my bachelor thesis currently and with Cata released, I don't have that much spare time ;)
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21:08.44AKXDoes QuestHelper have data for Vashj'ir yet? I have 133 out of 150 quests done for the achievement and /qh incomplete doesn't show me anything.
21:12.43GnarfozElkano: well, what you described sounded like the opposite: trying to bring back the old behaviour (with the added inconvenience of having to do multiple clicks)
21:13.26Elkanowell, 3-click was just my first quick solution... never used the secure stuff before
21:13.49Elkanonow it's just right click again ooc and no way ic
21:14.54PneumatusYssaril: halfus and valiona/theralion are in the wrong places in bastion
21:14.58Pneumatusthey need switching over
21:17.23Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.1-5-g9c29a10 Data/BossData.lua: [+1 commit] switch halfus and valiona/theralion (cause Pneumatus sais so)
21:17.28Yssaril:P
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22:03.27PneumatusYssaril: "Dark Iron Golem Council" should probably be called "Omnitron Defense System" as per the raid lockout name :P
22:04.18Pneumatus(in blackwing descent)
22:04.48Repo10guildxp: 03xhatix 04r18-release * r18 : Tagging as r18-release.
22:11.06ElkanoOmnitron or Omnotron?
22:11.23nevcairielOmnotron
22:12.44Pneumatuswill double- check when we kill them in a sec
22:12.59Pneumatusbabble boss might have it incorrectly if its not omnitron then
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22:15.17Gnarfozit's omnotron
22:16.20ElkanoNomnotron would have been so much more awsome ^^
22:17.07nevcairielthey renamed it from beta
22:17.13nevcairieli added the right one to babble this morning
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22:18.48Pneumatuscool
22:22.43Pneumatusblizzard need to learn to classify bosses as bosses
22:22.44Pneumatusreally
22:22.47Pneumatusall the tron council are elites
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22:42.49Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.1-6-g8f3c038 Data/BossData.lua: [+1 commit] rename "Dark Iron Golem Council" to "Omintron Defense System" thanks Pneumatus
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22:45.05PneumatusYssaril|2: sorry, its omnotron, not omnitron :<
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22:45.44Yssaril|2wowhead has it as omintron /sigh
22:45.55Pneumatusthey were onmintron in beta
22:46.08Yssaril|2so spelling is Omnotron Defense System?
22:46.39Pneumatusthat's the official final english string, it seems
22:46.44Yssaril|2kk
22:47.39Pneumatusin the engage /yell its from Omnotron
22:47.46Pneumatus(as well)
22:48.44Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.1-7-g760a9c5 Data/BossData.lua: [+1 commit] fix Omnotron Defense System spelling (wowhead was wrong) also switched around some bosses on second level
22:49.43Yssaril|2Pneumatus: can you update to the latest alpha and see if thats correct placement of the second level bosses (when you get a break)
22:49.53Pneumatuswe havnt got that far yet
22:50.00Yssaril|2kk :)
22:50.08Pneumatushopefully tomorrow
22:52.22Yssaril|2Pneumatus: just post a ticket if you find more worng stuff :) gonna be a while till i get in there :(
22:52.28Pneumatuswill do
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