IRC log for #wowace on 20101129

00:00.38SunTsuoscarucb: log into battle.net, their all for download there
00:02.25oscarucbcool ty
00:03.04ZnuffI couldn't play with a language pack :D
00:03.46oscarucbso the language pack just changes the client language but uses the same realms, and the native client selects different realms, right?
00:04.02SunTsuoscarucb: btw. language packs don't change language of cinematics
00:04.24Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r191 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): MorgDKP2
00:04.25Repo-removed some debug code
00:04.30oscarucbyeah I just need to test my addon with other client languages
00:04.39SunTsuoscarucb: you can choose the realm you like, als long as it is available
00:05.15oscarucbwell my enUS client doesnt show Korean realms for example
00:06.31SunTsuoscarucb: it neither will when you use a korean language pack. You don't leave your playing zone
00:07.10oscarucbkk
00:08.14ZnuffKR is another area
00:08.18Znufflike EU, US etc.
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00:10.56Repo10buttonfacade_daedui: 03Daedhir 07master * 23c23ea / (8 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] First commit
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00:13.41Repo10buttonfacade_daedui: 03Daedhir 07master * 96dab98 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Added .pkgmeta
00:15.08Repo10buttonfacade_daedui: 03Daedhir 04v1.0 * f5befcf /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0
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00:26.05Repo10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 04v1.0 * b9ebb8e /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0
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00:27.23NeoTronis there a way to take an addon I have, branch it and make releases from the branch?
00:27.30NeoTronwithout taking the trunk away
00:28.05YssarilNeoTron: you can clone it and then it will make zips for the new clode repo
00:28.14NeoTronwill they show up on curse?
00:28.21Yssarilno
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00:29.24NeoTronah well. I'll just keep with my idea of a new project then
00:29.36Repo10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 07master * v1.0.1 embeds.xml: [+2 commits]
00:29.37Repo3f125cb: Merged from main tree
00:29.38Repo4a14462: Merge branch 'master'; commit 'v0.1beta3'
00:29.45Repo10freeyourresources: 03Daedhir 04v1.0.1 * 4a52a16 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1
00:31.02Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v4.5 * r192 : Tagging as v4.5
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00:45.07Repo10simple3dportraits: 03Daedhir 04v1.1.1 * d4d729c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.1.1 for WoW v4.0.3a
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01:11.27Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1452 / (6 files in 3 directories): - Added Unleash Elements
01:11.28Repo- Hook SetSpellByID for talent specialization screen tooltips
01:11.29Repo- Use SpellID when available to get base action power cost (names wont work when you haven't learned the spell yet)
01:12.45Repo10bulkmail-inbox: 03dhedbor * r120 BulkMailInbox.lua: Fixed a couple of nil text issues
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01:22.03Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r132 .hgtags: Added tag 3.3.11 for changeset 80808ecf5e11
01:22.14Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1453 / (3 files in 2 directories):
01:22.15Repo- Removed Precision from Rogues, +hit part of Dual Weild from Shamans, and Heroic Presence from general buffs as they should now be handled automatically by the API
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01:28.01sylvanaarim getting tired of people saying addons are crashing their game...bliz needs to step it up
01:30.39Bapsso, I'm trying to kill all my ace2 reliant addons and one of the ones I don't see an obvious replacement for is restfu -- anyone know of an ace3 brokerized replacement?
01:33.05doom0rmmm, depends on what you want exactly
01:33.38ulicI use picoEXP, mostly tells you % of level gained, but it will show rest % in the tooltip
01:33.51Bapsjust to be able to easily see the rested XP on my alts and a bonus would be all played time across all toons
01:33.53doom0rallxp does too
01:34.03SunTsuhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8259-Xparky.html maybe
01:34.31ulicah yea, picoEXP doesn't show rest for alts.
01:34.33doom0rallxp does all, ther's a closer near exact replacement of restfu, it's new, can't remember the name atm, but i still just use allxp
01:34.48[Wobin]altoholic
01:35.01Wobinaltoholic
01:35.13SunTsuat least Wobin agrees himself
01:35.16Wobindamn lag =P
01:35.43Jerubi used to use altoholic.
01:35.50Jerubbut i corrupted the (rather large) db a few times.
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01:45.11Repo10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 07master * v0.7 Round3DPortraits.lua: [+2 commits]
01:45.12Repoa64657d: Player and target frames can now be independently hidden
01:45.13Repod715b40: Merge branch 'master'; commit 'v0.6'
01:45.20Repo10round3dportraits: 03Daedhir 04v0.7 * 5ba3fca /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.7
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01:51.31Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1454 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added total heal text to Drain Life tooltip
01:51.32Repo- Added health cost text to Lifetap tooltip
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01:57.33SinusPidamn, I'm stuck. And no, lube won't help.
01:58.21RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/buttonfacade_daedui/. ButtonFacade_DaedUI. Daedhir (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
01:58.48doom0rSinusPi: wait for the swell to go down
01:59.13SinusPiAceConfigDialog and AceGUI issue. I'm trying to get a simple tab group in my blizoptions-injected options screen. The wrapper group in the options table has childGroups="tab" and inline=true on itself.
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02:00.09SinusPiAnd I either get a cascade of all inline groups (no tabs), or... the container group becomes a one-entry tree, with tabs as contents.
02:00.25SinusPiand I need a container (inline-group) with tabs in it!
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02:07.02SinusPiIt seems as if I set inline=true on a parent group (even if it has childGroups="tab"), all its child groups become inline, too.
02:09.11Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r157 Core.lua:
02:09.12Repo-make sure that slots that previously held an item, but are currently empty are deleted from the database
02:17.22vhaarrSinusPi: someone else reported the same thing earlier this week and I told him to file a ticket
02:17.24vhaarrhe did not, I think
02:19.31SinusPihmmm.
02:20.19SinusPiIn the FeedOptions function, I see traversing an options path, with   inline = inline or pickfirstinset(v.dialogInline, ........ , false)
02:20.51SinusPiI have a feeling that this picks up and inline=true's in the parent path up to this point, ignoring that a child group might even be explicitly inline=false
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02:22.03SinusPi... nah, never mind my rambling. I'll pipe up if I fix it. ;P
02:25.10NeoTronTorhal: saw the fix I checked in to auto-sizing in libqtip?
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02:30.05TorhalNeoTron: Aye
02:30.30TorhalSinusPi: File a ticket. You definitely aren't the first to notice this.
02:34.51SinusPifiled.
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02:43.27Repo10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-33-gf588062 Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed obtain filter for Cataclysm.
02:44.15Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1455 Data/Shaman.lua:
02:44.16Repo- Chain Heal no longer has an increased chance of Earthliving Weapon proc
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04:38.53harlwhat's a c-note
04:39.00harloh never mind
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04:39.49doom0r...
04:44.55Repo10autoprofitx: 03KanadiaN * r62 / (9 files in 7 directories): misc changes this is an alpha
04:52.38Repo10autoprofitx: 03KanadiaN * r63 Libs/ (10 files in 10 directories): Fixing SVN
04:56.54Repo10autoprofitx: 03KanadiaN * r64 / (78 files in 20 directories): - New Exceptions Tool
04:56.55Repo- Reworked Config Frame
04:56.56Repo- Added French (Only Partly Translated)
05:00.01pompy1:O
05:00.52pompy1@project autoprofitx
05:00.53Repopompy1: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autoprofitx/. AutoProfitX. Game: WoW. KanadiaN (Manager/Author), bigzero (Author). Updated: 4 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1
05:01.07pompy1@project autoprofitx2
05:01.09Repopompy1: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/autoprofitx2/. AutoProfitX2. Game: WoW. kiki (Manager/Author/Maintainer/Contributor), Truhan (Author), Uniquesone (Former author). Updated: 32 days ago. Tickets: 1/13
05:01.12pompy1lol...
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05:23.28Repo10buttonfacade_daedui: 03Daedhir 07master * v1.0.2 Textures/Backdrop.tga: [+1 commit] Tweaked backdrop texture
05:23.34Repo10buttonfacade_daedui: 03Daedhir 04v1.0.2 * d920dc6 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.2
05:33.57Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1456 Data/Shaman.lua: - Fixed Lightning Shield detection in localized clients
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06:12.14Repo10libguildbankcomm-1-0: 03myrroddin * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): It is working! Really spammy, which I'll have to fix
06:12.15RepobankData changed slightly. See API page for details
06:12.16RepoStill sending contents to all players instead of those who can see pages. Will address the logic next
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06:33.21Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-9-gc322eae / (5 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
06:33.22Repoc322eae: Removed unused code.
06:33.23Repocb78016: When tidying bags, try to complete stacks before moving them into profession bags.
06:33.24Repo29f4a98: Fixed a nil error with regard to stacks.
06:33.25Repod58225f: Fixed bag/container family issues in TidyBags and when emptying bags.
06:38.56Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-10-g885b456 modules/TidyBags.lua: [+1 commit] TidyBags: also attempt to move incomplete stacks into profession bags if they cannot be completed.
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07:31.01Repo10talented: 03jerry * r700 check.lua: Fix Ticket 125.
07:31.02RepoThanks acirac
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08:17.09Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r306 / (3 files in 3 directories): Added more Quest items
08:17.10RepoFixed more gearset stuff I'd broken (which got left out of data.lua)
08:17.12RepoThe only consumable change is a small inconsistency in formatting was removed
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08:25.20Repo10rw2: 03mangeg 07master * 1.42-beta2-37-gdba4818 / (4 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
08:25.21Repodba4818: Some fixes to the Al'Akir mod.
08:25.22Repo9d66a42: Added Acid Raid warnings to Al'Akir mod.
08:25.23Repo89be8e3: Added missing CastTimer prototype.
08:25.24Repobfb3486: Added some more warnings so Al'Akir.
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08:49.50Repo10touhin (experimental): 03nebula169 * r11 Touhin.lua:
08:49.51Repochanging the list size will play nice with currently displayed rows
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09:20.57evlWhat's the easiest way to monitor an event for when my target dies?
09:21.11evlUNIT_HEALTH and UnitHealth("target"=
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09:22.32mitch0I think UNIT_TARGET_CHANGED fires also
09:23.15mitch0s/_CHANGED//
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09:32.51evlPLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED
09:32.57evlI'm trying to make sense of how the new combo mechanic works
09:32.59mitch0or that
09:33.14evlSome spells don't require targets (Slice and Dice, Recuperate)
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09:43.37Repo10atlas_arena: 03arith * r17 / (9 files in 3 directories): The Rumble Cage NPC update
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10:04.01Repo10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r87 / (11 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
10:04.02Reporeworked inventory system to be... um... better/faster?
10:04.03Repothrottle mail event handling to not over-computer on mail updates
10:04.04Repoadded slash command system (/gw) the only active slash command is "show (trade skill name)"
10:04.05Repoadded notification of alt item requirements when visiting mailbox (this will become an auto send feature)
10:18.38the-golemi would just like to say, detailing roof framing is a pain in my nech
10:18.42the-golemneck even ^^
10:19.06doom0rhuh?
10:19.18doom0ra house?
10:22.10the-golemyeah
10:22.43doom0rmm, what kind of roof?
10:23.36Repo10atlas_arena: 03arith * r18 / (8 files in 3 directories): Gurubashi_Arena map update
10:32.40Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3072 / (7 files in 6 directories): cata raid loot
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10:40.43Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r3073 Core/AtlasIntegration.lua:
10:40.44Reposhow debug message only when ATLASLOOT_DEBUGMESSAGES is set to true
10:48.14Repo10cromulent: 03phyber 04v1.5.6 * d41ac6c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.5.6.
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11:10.52sylvanaar_workgood morning
11:11.33SunTsuliar
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11:22.06sylvanaar_workwhat are you drinking this er afternoon (for you) SunTsu
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11:34.45SunTsusylvanaar_work: it's noon-ish here, and I wish I was drinking ;)
11:34.55sylvanaar_workhaha
11:34.58sylvanaar_worki meant tea
11:35.26SunTsuCurrently something very basic, gunpowder with peppermint
11:35.34SunTsuyou?
11:35.36Nobgul0_o
11:35.41sylvanaar_workalmond cookie
11:35.54sylvanaar_workgood stuff
11:36.09SunTsuNobgul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_tea
11:36.16sylvanaar_workwell its actually almond cookie + amphetamine
11:37.40SunTsuas long as you don't take tea + amphetamine IV...
11:37.47sylvanaar_worklol
11:37.57Nobgullol
11:38.36sylvanaar_worki love it - the generic for my medication is called "amphetamine salt"
11:38.53Nobgulwikipedia has a api?
11:38.56sylvanaar_workits like, can i have that on fries
11:39.16sylvanaar_workwho doesnt have an api these days
11:39.20SunTsuI seriously wish Brevill would answer to mails or support contacts
11:39.24SunTsu+e
11:39.48sylvanaar_worki keep looking for you SunTsu, im still shocked they dont have it in the EU
11:39.54Nobgullol sylvanaar, can't seem to find it. May be lack of sleep.
11:40.14sylvanaar_workyou know who to ask is Shirik
11:40.29SunTsusylvanaar_work: yeah, and Breville seems not to answer any questions on whether they plan to bring out an EU version
11:40.56sylvanaar_workthere is an improved version supposedly coming out
11:41.08sylvanaar_workim like - what can they improve
11:41.41doom0roh god, i just found stormwind lake and saw they gave the rp'ers a wedding area
11:41.49SunTsuhaving 230V power inlet ;)
11:42.01sylvanaar_workyou should post on steepster.com and ask what the other people in the EU are doing.
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11:42.08Nobgulyer sylvanaar_work ill ask him later
11:42.43sylvanaar_workfinally someone has posted about my Lua plugin for intelliJ
11:42.50sylvanaar_workthey are using it
11:42.55sylvanaar_workim stoked
11:42.57SunTsusylvanaar_work: the answer is quite simple, converters are cheap, at least compared to the machine itself ;)
11:43.03sylvanaar_worktrue
11:43.43sylvanaar_workcheck it out http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/lrdevplugin/%28Mac-Win%29_IntelliJ_and_LUA
11:44.41SunTsuanyway, I need to find a new flat or a house, in my current flat I wouldn't have enough room to give that machine an appropriate space
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11:45.31sylvanaar_workreally?
11:45.39sylvanaar_workits so small
11:45.41MegalonFisker, ret is so creepy
11:46.01Repo10elkexperience: 03Elkano * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): added options to disable minimap icon
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11:46.43SunTsusylvanaar_work: I need to juggle around my toaster, my sandwich toaster and my deep fryer and I'm not able to cook while any of that is around...
11:47.17doom0ryou think that's bad? my microwave takes up my entire kitchen counter
11:47.25sylvanaar_workwell, i have it in my office.
11:47.44sylvanaar_worki dont drink tea on the weekends
11:48.13SunTsudoom0r: that's why I need to juggle things around ;)
11:48.17sylvanaar_workthough i do have some at home, I just use tea balls
11:48.20SunTsusylvanaar_work: I work at home ;)
11:48.43sylvanaar_workSunTsu: ah, i worked at home for 8 years. it has its ups and downs
11:49.09Repo10elkbuffbars: 03Elkano * r165 EBB_Bar.lua: bars should now longer react to mouse if they shouldn't
11:49.53SunTsuOn my desk there currently are two laptops, two keyboards, two 27" displays, one 21" display, a phone, a label printer, there's no room left
11:50.06doom0rbuild a bigger desk
11:50.24SunTsudoom0r: That's why I'm looking for a bigger flat ;)
11:50.38SunTsuliving room is stuffed
11:50.54Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
11:50.59Fiskerwhat's wrong with retbulls?
11:50.59sylvanaar_worki want to be a german...i wonder if they let you become one
11:51.04doom0ri have a u-shaped outta one sheet of ply, 1x4 ft edge, 3x6 middle, 2x4 edge
11:51.16Fiskeralso Megalon is gsl running or did it get cancelled due to north korean jerks?
11:51.20sylvanaar_workhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/23/AR2010112306280.html
11:52.00SunTsusylvanaar_work: you really don't want to be, but becoming one is easy, just complain a lot, about everything, that will prove that you are german, deep in your heart
11:52.10sylvanaar_worklol
11:52.35Fiskeri wouldn't want to be a german
11:52.42nebula1692either that or invade poland
11:52.46Fiskerthen again i'm not quite sure if i want to be danish :(
11:52.50SlaymanSunTsu: that and the ability to know what really is beer and what is not
11:53.32SunTsunebula1692: nah, we don't do that anymore. The march would be long, feet sore, too much a hassle, you know.
11:53.45sylvanaar_workwhats the difference between a danish person and a german person?
11:53.55doom0rif it takes like yeast, it's beer
11:53.57doom0rsimple
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11:54.12sylvanaar_workdanish people more laid back?
11:54.21MegalonFisker, still running, ro32
11:54.37Megalonkim jong-il just wants code s
11:54.55doom0rsylvanaar_work: the gotta say hello to everyone stigmata isn't there
11:56.14sylvanaar_workhave you ever been to a shop in germany. the way the sales lady says "danke" - her tone of voice is considered rude in america
11:56.36sylvanaar_workits like "thank you, go screw youself"
11:56.56sylvanaar_workmaybe she actually meant it
11:57.15doom0rmeh, i don't like the incessant bs you get at offices and businesses here in america anyways
11:57.23bluspacecowi dont know it could be traditional in daneish land
11:57.26sylvanaar_workits only the women, the men say it differently
11:58.14sylvanaar_workthe other place i'd like to live is the gold coast somewhere
11:58.30SunTsusylvanaar_work: depends on the sales person. And it depends on how you behave ;) I for instance can't stand all this blathering out of politeness, I deem it impolite
11:58.32doom0rdefine gold coast, chicago has an area named that
11:58.33sylvanaar_workbut i dont like wildlife thats deadly
11:58.41sylvanaar_workaustralia
11:59.17doom0rlearn2shoot
11:59.20doom0r;x
11:59.34sylvanaar_workwell they have deadly spiders that like to hide
11:59.45doom0ri would keep in mind the restrictions on content in australia
11:59.59doom0rreason i would never move there or germany
12:00.10doom0rtoo much is too easily banned
12:00.48SunTsuI personally like Malta. Beautiful, warm, english speaking, nice people, close enough to sicily to have great italian food
12:01.01sylvanaar_worki bet they have slow internet though
12:01.37SlaymanSeoul is quite nice this time of the year, cloudy with a chance of artillery but they have incredibly fast internets
12:01.44SunTsusylvanaar_work: actually: No. And they have open WLAN wherever you go in cities
12:01.50sylvanaar_workreally
12:02.45SunTsuyeah, nearly every shop, cafe, restaurant has an open AP
12:02.57SunTsulots of flats, too
12:03.09sylvanaar_workany jobs?
12:03.34bluspacecowwhre is this with open AP in every shop cafe etc etc suntsu ?
12:03.38sylvanaar_workim overdue for a change in employment
12:03.53Slaymanbluspacecow: Malta
12:04.16SunTsusylvanaar_work: I don't know, I'm freelancer, I could do german home office jobs there
12:04.59SunTsusylvanaar_work: but: payment is real low. I only know for waiters, but they are payed 100 Euro per Week
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12:05.15sylvanaar_workwell waiters work off of tips
12:05.22Slaymannot in germany
12:05.26sylvanaar_workreally?
12:05.29Slaymany
12:05.31SunTsusylvanaar_work: not on Malta. Tips go to the cafe
12:05.59Slaymanthe get paid, and we tip about 2 eur for a 20-50 EUR cheque
12:06.18sylvanaar_workwell then why tip at all if it goes to the restaraunt
12:06.56sylvanaar_workmaybe thats american thinking
12:07.00NobgulThat is what i am wondering you are already peying for the food
12:07.06SunTsubut tipping a waitress with 5 Euros will reward you lots of hugs and amazing service as soon as you set foot into that cafe again ;)
12:07.41sylvanaar_workyeah, if it goes to the waitress sure
12:07.43Slaymanand the above is independent of the cheque
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12:08.03sbuoff-topic: amazon.de will kill me today! :p
12:08.14SlaymanCyberMonday
12:08.21Slaymanwhat did I miss until now?
12:08.27SunTsuSlayman: even in germany I try to tip 10% to 15% if the service was worth it
12:08.31sbuslay: i got office2010 for 50 eur
12:08.33sylvanaar_workyou know i bought that footpedal keyboard - i dont know if you guys heard me talking about it
12:08.34sbuSlayman even
12:08.54Nobgulsylvanaar_work? link
12:08.57sylvanaar_worki got the 3 pedal one
12:09.04sbuSlayman: put you only have like 5s to buy something :p
12:09.07sbumaybe less
12:09.32Slaymansbu: software I do not care about hardware is much more important I see PS3 is up in 50mins
12:09.48sbuSlayman: yup... that will be more like 1 second then ;)
12:10.03sylvanaar_workhttp://www.scythe-usa.com/product/input/008/usbfootswitch_detail.html
12:10.23sylvanaar_workit turns out that using 3 pedals is hard
12:10.31sylvanaar_workthe most i could use was 2
12:10.40SlaymanSunTsu: yeah if the service was real good and my waiter/waitress paid attention without annyoing me I tip considerably more but that does not happen often
12:13.08SunTsuanyway, the point is: Malta may be great for living and holidays, but you wouldn't want to work there, income is quite bad
12:15.56Slaymansbu: how cheap u think it'll get?
12:16.06sbuthe ps3? mhhh...
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12:16.25sbusomething around 220-230 i'd say
12:16.47doom0rsylvanaar_work: are the switches just binary?
12:17.01sbudigital camera was 90 -> 49, beamer 999 -> 800
12:17.48doom0ramazon's us deals suck all day
12:18.14sylvanaar_workdoom0r: yes
12:18.28sylvanaar_workdoom0r: they can be mapped to any single key combo
12:18.44doom0ri really want a pair, but one binary and one variable
12:19.10sbudoom0r: mh yup, i cant find anything cool there
12:19.14sylvanaar_worki just wanted it for push-to-talk
12:19.26sbudoom0r: http://www.amazon.de/gp/feature.html/?docId=1000454773 - its "okay"
12:19.27sylvanaar_worki dont know why i bought the 3 pedal version
12:21.39SunTsuapropos tips: I'm planning on a behavioural experiment. I just ordered pizza from a delivery service next town. It's snowy, what might happen if I refuse to tip the pizza boy and complain that the pizza is cold?
12:22.01vhaarrhow far is the drive in normal conditions?
12:22.12vhaarrhow long does it take, I mean
12:22.26SunTsuvhaarr: twenty minutes to half an hour
12:22.47vhaarrthat's borderline indeed
12:23.22vhaarrin norway there are regulations regarding food delivery and I think around 20 minutes is maximum without an active heat source
12:24.22vhaarrthe requirement is that the food should still hold around 60 degrees celsius upon delivery
12:24.29SunTsuthey deliver here often enough for the delivery boy one day replying to the question "Who is it" with "It's me"
12:25.34Megalonmario?
12:27.02Slaymanall mp3 download from amazon are 50% off OH YEAH!
12:27.51SunTsuI bought a single mp3 from amazon once. I was quite surprised that I was asked for a delivery address
12:28.27SlaymanSunTsu: they are free of DRM and they are regular MP3s If I want to support the artist I friggin buy the album!
12:28.51SunTsuSlayman: I still buy a CD
12:28.59doom0rwtb flac
12:29.26SlaymanI have no need for a medium, it's just gathering dust
12:29.55doom0rit doesn't gather dust when it's sealed, or stored in a changer
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12:30.07doom0rplus you can rip from it into whatever format you want
12:30.51Slaymanwell except for Blizzard CEs, seems I'm a hippocrit
12:31.04SunTsudoom0r: right. Even in multiple formats, if you e.g. prefer OGG for music at home but your car player only supports mp3
12:31.33Slaymandoom0r: I don't know about you but I moved twice and both times I lost shit, some of that were CDs I cherished. No More!
12:31.35doom0raye, i rip everything to flac, then convert off that
12:31.55doom0rSlayman: you can lose a hard drive too
12:32.09SlaymanI can, backblaze cannot
12:32.16SunTsuI lost more HDD content than I ever lost CDs
12:32.49doom0rplus insurance will easily cover a cd collection if you have it appraised
12:32.52SlaymanIf you buy from amazon, all you cannot lose is your login, you can download MP3s a gazillion times over
12:33.15doom0ryou still are getting an mp3
12:33.23Slaymantrue
12:33.36doom0rlike i said, wtb flac
12:33.39doom0rthen i'd be all over it
12:33.48Kalrothhttp://www.magnatune.com/
12:33.50SlaymanI do not have any kind of High End Audio equipment and I am no audiophile therefor It's no loss for me
12:33.51Kalroth^
12:34.16doom0rya, magnatune does not have everything
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12:53.28Adirelle|workis the packager down ?
12:59.21Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-12-g2556a42 widgets (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
12:59.22Repo2556a42: Fixed virtual stacks when displaying the bag slot panel.
12:59.23Repob3ce7ab: Attempt to complete existing stacks of item when trying to empty a bag.
13:01.48Slayman177 EUR PS3 Slim LMAO I think I'm not getting one ;(
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13:02.24sbuSlayman: i also failed :p
13:02.41Slaymanit's still loading damn it
13:02.47sbuno
13:02.49sbuits over then :p
13:02.59sbuyou get "reserviert" after few secs or its over... :P
13:03.09Slaymansylvanaar how bout that iPhone 3G for basically nothing
13:03.52doom0rneed a car deck to appear for basically nothing
13:04.08Adirelle|workthe packager needs a kick : too many open files
13:05.49Slaymank 2 hours until I get a chance for something useful
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13:15.00sbuSlayman: what do you want? :p
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13:16.08sylvanaar_workSlayman: oh yeah, i'll ask
13:16.10Slaymansmartphone and possibly a monitor
13:19.13SlaymanI'm go and drink a liter of coffee and some red bull and then I'm going to click that "buy" button once it's there faster than any other human possibly could
13:19.17Repo10adibags-pt3filter: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0 AdiBags_PT3Filter.toc: [+1 commit] Fixed library paths.
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13:21.52Slaymangot I kind of hate my "new and improved job"
13:22.40Slaymantoday I'm making a lot of typing mistakes, I'm tired
13:25.06SlaymanI'm outta here BBL
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13:25.14sztanpet@describe adibags-pt3filter
13:25.15Reposztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/adibags-pt3filter/. AdiBags_PT3Filter. LibPeriodicTable-3.1 item filters for AdiBags
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13:46.28Funkeh`http://store.steampowered.com/app/55100/
13:46.30Funkeh`scary video
13:50.43MegalonNORTH KOREA IS BEST KOREA
13:50.52sbulol
13:53.23Megalonunited states of korea will bomb the shit out of the usa fags
13:53.56Megalonor with korea, it will be united state of korea!
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14:10.28Slaymanisn't it strange how we are about 1 Week into that darkmoon faire thingy and 1 week away from Cata and about 54% of that unlockable stuff is done. Call me paranoid but I don't think we do have much influence over it's progression
14:11.20Nobgullol
14:13.41Megalonjust look at AckisWork
14:13.53Megalonyou know that they can't give us influence on it
14:14.10Megalonor else Ackis himself would have unlocked everything on day one
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14:33.03SorhaAm I allowed to post a temp fix in a comment of a ticket for someone who runs into an error on another persons addon or be it frowned on to clutter the ticket up?
14:35.27Slaymandepends on whose ticket/addon it is. usually devs in here are happy if you post the/a corrected function or loop or file or whatever in a paste where you comment your change
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14:38.50mitch0just ninja-commit it :P
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15:20.46mojosdojo@describe lightmymacro
15:20.47Repomojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lightmymacro/. Light my Macro.  This tiny addon enables glowing overlays on action buttons that hold a macro. Only works with addons based on stock Blizzard...
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15:28.37sylvanaar_workhttp://theoatmeal.com/comics/websites_stop
15:28.50sylvanaar_worki love theoatmeal
15:30.45SorhaSame here ^_^
15:32.06SorhaIf I want to make a hook with my code executing after the original do I need to rawhook it and call the original first in my code?
15:34.18sylvanaar_workyou can posthook it
15:34.38sylvanaar_workby just using :Hook
15:34.53sylvanaar_workor :SecureHook
15:35.19sylvanaar_workdepends on what you want to do in your code
15:35.32SorhaHook got me a pre-hook, will try SecureHook ^_^ Secure just sounded scary >.>
15:35.53sylvanaar_worki thought hook was a posthook
15:36.02sylvanaar_workthats wierd
15:36.06SorhaAll I really want to know is when the blizzard watchframe adds/removes a remotequest
15:36.31sylvanaar_workuse securehook if you can
15:36.43sylvanaar_workits the safest thing to do
15:36.55SorhaWill do, rawhooking just didn't sit well with me :P
15:39.03SorhaWorks thankyou :)
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15:40.01evlSorha: feels dirty in the start but you quickly realize they're just like empty bottles of beer, just crush them and put'em in a dumpster
15:40.11evlWrong hooker! Sorry, moving on.
15:40.19Sorhalol :)
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15:58.59RepoUpdate all recipes that use vials to point to the Crystal Vial. Deathwing broke all other vials in his temper tantrum.
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15:59.19EthanCentauraihi there ckknight
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16:07.07Slaymanhow do you turn in quests in Strat nowadays? they phaseshifted the Questmobs
16:08.07koaschtenowned? ;)
16:09.18Slaymanthey are just outside the boss' lair
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16:20.13Slaymanno useful prime glyph for beartanks at lvl 50? seriously? :°(
16:21.09SunTsuSlayman: aren't they OP anyway?
16:21.20Slaymanno fair!
16:23.25selckinSlayman: not since patch
16:23.30selckin*suntsu
16:25.34Slayman16 lvls without a useful Prime Glyph makes sadpanda sad
16:26.05SunTsumaybe that's the plan, so you are grateful as soon as you get one
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16:27.11MegalonOMFG, 16levels, and every single one I got another awesome Prime Glyph, but I can't use all of them
16:27.18MegalonFUCK YOU BLIZZARD, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
16:27.27selckinthat'll teach you not to dual spec into cat for soloing
16:27.29Slaymanmaybe they want you to go either boredomKin or heal your mana away
16:28.03sylvanaar_workyou dont like being a caster?
16:28.24sylvanaar_workdirty....
16:28.25SlaymanI don't like the mandatory boomkin form it looks boring
16:28.59sylvanaar_workit was more fun in beta when the eyes were on the feet
16:29.08Slayman*nodnod*
16:29.25selckinyou're on the right path, tanking is only way to go
16:29.37phyberis the packager turned off at the moment? tagged a new release of something hours ago and the zip didn't appear yet.
16:29.53sylvanaar_workit needs to be restarted i think
16:30.00phyberah
16:30.05Slaymanselckin: already have 2 tanks druid is 3rd and taurenpala will be 4th and last
16:30.19SunTsuSlayman: tank as boomkin ;)
16:30.20selckini have tank paladin, tank druid and tank warrior
16:30.23selckin:D
16:30.27sylvanaar_workhurricaine tank
16:30.51sylvanaar_works/ai/a/
16:31.07SlaymanTanking is the shit it's for real men and for people with blown up egos like me, who'll be taken down by having to pay attention in cata dungeons
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16:31.26SunTsuWe did that in UP, made it to Skadi until we found a tank
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16:31.47selckini could solo UP like 1.5 years ago
16:32.05SunTsuselckin: hc?
16:32.07selckinyes.
16:32.11SunTsuimpressive
16:32.15selckinVH is even a bigger joke
16:32.16Slaymanbut lvling now gives you a good impression on what#s to come in the dungeons come cata people don't learn to play anymore
16:32.21sylvanaar_worktouches you
16:33.09sylvanaar_worknoone knows if they are going to drastically nerf the dungeons or not yet
16:33.22sylvanaar_workit could happen
16:33.23selckini hope not, bring back TBC!
16:33.25Slaymanoh PLEASE god no!
16:33.34Slayman@ nerfing
16:34.25sylvanaar_workwrath was a joke for alot of reasons including content reuse, but somehow blizz managed to reuse content in cata and it is fun
16:34.29SunTsuI second that for TBC. Please, no more TBC, it does not share the acronyme with tuberculosis as an accident
16:35.17Megalonbring back vanilla
16:35.19sylvanaar_workalso they managed to make the gear progression meaningful through the first tier at least
16:35.25MegalonEVERYONE likes vanilla
16:36.11SunTsuMegalon: then ask feral druids for an opinion
16:36.24sylvanaar_workyeah, i miss 8 dot limits, running to the dungeons, no feral druids or shadow priests
16:36.30SunTsufe-what? You're a druid, you heal
16:36.56sylvanaar_worklets see what else...
16:36.59Megalonit was fund in molten core
16:37.09Megalonfearie fire and 3 lvl1 mf
16:37.18Megalonwhen we managed to drop sunders from mobs
16:37.21Megalonas the druids
16:37.22Megalon:>
16:37.56sylvanaar_worki remember when they removed the debuff limit, the bosses turned into loot pinatas
16:38.26sylvanaar_workoh, spell levels
16:38.27arkaneseverythings all rose colored glasses to everyone :\
16:38.28arkaneseven BC
16:38.43sylvanaar_worki miss spell levels
16:38.49sylvanaar_workor ranks
16:38.58Megaloni miss speccing into innervate
16:39.01arkanesyes yes the heroics were hard, but I guess nobody remembers that gameplay mostly consisteted of "sit in shat for 4 hours and try to build a shadow labs group"
16:39.08Megalonand hurricane being like hellfire, just worse
16:39.11sylvanaar_worklol innervating other people
16:39.17arkanesgetting rid of spell ranks was great
16:39.37Megalonand 10s cast time on combat ress :P
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16:39.52arkanessince they'd alreayd removed downranking, and removing downranking was a good design decision too
16:39.55sylvanaar_workwhy use combat rez when you had ooc rez
16:40.19sylvanaar_workdownranking was great
16:40.23sylvanaar_workwhat are you talking about
16:40.32arkanesdownranking was terrible from a design standpoint
16:40.51sylvanaar_worki disagree
16:40.55SunTsuMegalon: Oh, Innervate - I hated it. "Druid, you heal." "But, I'm feral, I'm OOM most of the fight, even when using innervate" "No, you keep innervate for pushing priests, they make the most of it" "Er, but, what am I to do?"
16:40.55arkaneswhat they're doing in cata is the right way, to build the flexibility into your spell choice
16:41.21Megalonyou were feral with 31 points in resto? :p
16:41.27sylvanaar_workoh come on, its not that flexible. you cast 1 or 2 spells most of the time
16:41.30arkanesbeing feral in vanilla was lols
16:41.35arkanessylvanaar_work: yes, thats fine
16:41.44Megalonevery spec in vanilla was bad
16:41.49SunTsuMegalon: No, there was a point they decided to gove innervate to every druid
16:41.54SunTsugive even
16:41.55Megalonthere were the bad specs, and the total bullshit spec
16:41.58Megalonlike survival hunter
16:42.12arkanesferal was a total bullshit one, though
16:42.13arkanesat least in raiding
16:42.24Megalonand there was arMS before waepon normalization
16:42.32Megalonweapon
16:42.43arkanesI mean, sure, if you got yourself carried through AQ40 and had a really permissive guild you could be maybe only half as effective as a warrior
16:42.48Slaymanyou HAD to use frost as a mage because Molten Core was all fiery!
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16:43.04arkanesspell immunities were another thing that sucked :\
16:43.24sylvanaar_worki liked negative resistance
16:43.49sylvanaar_worki played a warlock in vanilla
16:44.01arkanesme to!
16:44.08arkanesmy first toon to 60 was a warlock actually
16:44.21arkanesway back in the really good old days, before the first warlock class rework
16:44.35sylvanaar_workyeah i quit around AQ time and rolled druid because i was sick of summoning lazy ass bitches
16:44.44arkanesI hated him miserably, got to 60 and never touched him again except when we needed extra banishes on garr
16:45.23sylvanaar_workfor 1 patch they removed the DR on enslave demon, and i was in heaven. I could keep a demon forever
16:45.40durcynyou're forgetting the actual shitty part with 8 debuff slots, all filled with Rend
16:45.45sylvanaar_workI used lord banehollow to massacre the furbolgs
16:45.57arkaneshehe
16:46.07arkanesfucking windfury totem overwriting my poisons
16:46.21arkanesoh, and losing them every time I zoned
16:46.48arkanesso much sucked about vanilla
16:46.58arkanesall those people who blather on about vanilla servers are idiots :\
16:47.55sylvanaar_worksome things were better, AV and class mount quests for example
16:48.12durcynclassic AV was only ever good for capital city reputation farming, let's be honest
16:48.18Slaymandoing 2h+ Strat runs SUCKED major balls as did: Scholo-(raids) and Diremaul complete runs
16:48.47sylvanaar_worksure the rep was great, the current AV though is just a hollow empty experience
16:48.53arkanesI played in the very first AV to ever pop on our realm
16:48.58arkanesit lasted for 48 hours
16:49.01durcynand losing hours and days of sleep for WSG rank grinding, i never want to do that again
16:49.31arkanesand that was pretty cool for all kinds of reasons, but it's not a sustainable experience
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16:49.45Slaymanincredibly slow progression on everything
16:49.53Megalonlooting everything in sightrange
16:50.12arkanesin cata engineers get a trinket you can use to loot stuff from a distance
16:50.19sylvanaar_worki think they should bring back old AV as an option
16:50.22arkanesI'm pondering swapping just for that
16:50.51SlaymanLoot-a-rang
16:50.53Megalonyou have to use the item
16:50.58Megalonthen use it on the corpse
16:51.03arkaneskeybinds
16:51.18sylvanaar_workcooldown?
16:51.19Megalonnot as imba as you think ;)
16:51.21Megalon10sec
16:54.48sylvanaar_workfire and shadow reflectors in vanilla were awesome
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16:55.22Megalonhaha yea, killing the dragon with the 100% hp dot :D
16:55.32sylvanaar_workyeah lol
16:55.36sylvanaar_worki remember that
16:55.40arkanesugh the grinding i did to get the fire one
16:55.53Slaymanyou get to keep the Riverboat, that's effing sexy
16:56.05arkanesit only works in 1k needles
16:56.29Slaymandude it's your OWN RIVERBOAT who cares where it is your own riverboat
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16:59.52EthanCentauraiI'm on a boat
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17:14.31znf_uh, uh
17:14.34znf_where do you get the boat?
17:15.01Slaymanon the steambarge, I think after dowsing the fires
17:15.28znf_link quest line?
17:15.30znf_pls =)
17:17.07Slaymanwowhead.com for : "River Boat" item
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18:02.47RepoCorrected the skill levels of Lesser Flask of Resistance and Ethereal Oil.
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18:08.55RepoPossibly corrected the levels of Glyph of Living Bomb and Glyph of Collossus Smash. Heck, even it it's wrong it's better than zero.
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18:30.07Repo- fixed possible bug in char settings
18:30.08Repo- added BoP (Bind on Pickup) and Q (Quest) to list, itemID is now rarity-colored
18:30.09Repo- minor improvements
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19:01.36Yoshimodoes drdamage include support for pallys yet?
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19:11.51GagorianYoshimo: Not yet
19:12.06GagorianI'm trying to get most of it done for cataclysm release but it's looking like I won't exactly make it
19:12.19GagorianSince it's been about 10-20 hours per class and I got 7 left ;)
19:12.30Yoshimoits a lot of work , i understand that
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19:17.13GagorianWarlocks, rogues and shamans are mostly complete
19:17.17GagorianI'll start on warriors next
19:17.44GagorianThen I'll do some more time-consuming hybrid, either druids or pallies
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19:33.52Slaymanjnwhiteh: the latest clique and or Pitbull does some bad things to keybinds!
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19:43.52StanzillaMirrormn: any idea why earth shield shows the wrong stack count in WA?
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19:49.07jnwhitehslayman: care to elaborae?
19:50.13Slaymanok: random rebind: in keybind I tried to bind  W to walking forward (it already was) and it showed me sth like: Pitbull4_something:clique.somethingmore is now unbind but it didn't work
19:50.23Slaymandisabling clique fixed the keybind
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19:55.44Slaymanshortly after Combat and in Combat I basically mashed keys and mousebuttons
19:56.33Slaymanall of the above @ jnwhiteh
19:57.04jnwhitehSounds very confusing, without knowing what your bindings were
19:57.14jnwhitehbut clique won't change your bindings anymore except for a.) you go ooc/in
19:57.17jnwhitehb.) you change bindings
19:57.20jnwhitehc.) you change specs
19:57.39Slaymanooc, always directly ooc
19:57.52jnwhitehhuh?
19:58.18Slaymanthe bindings changed directly after leaving combat
19:59.17jnwhitehClique won't set bindings you don't configure
19:59.29jnwhitehand if a frame is hidden while your mouse is over it, you can get 'stuck' until you mouseover another frame
19:59.34jnwhitehnothing I can do about that until I get template support
20:01.28jnwhitehif you can give me a sshot of your binding config, and rperoducable conditions, I'll do what I can.
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20:24.37koaschtenmdiab 64€ collectors edition :D
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20:43.51harli need more hot earl grey tea.
20:48.21Humbedoohharl grey!
20:51.02harlwell, yes. harl the grey maybe..
20:51.58harlthough, my actual fur is more black than anything else.
20:53.15harlthen again, earl grey is black tea after all.
20:53.43harllikes that.
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21:06.22Repoea408b1: Added an option to select font effect.
21:06.23Repoe0a7d51: Properly apply font sizes on coutdown text (should fix ticket #122).
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21:16.55Adirelleckknight, Kaelten, are you aware of the "too many files open" state of the packager ? if yes, just nevermind
21:17.37Yssarilthat still hasn't been fixed permanently?
21:17.52kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
21:18.12MegalonFisker starts a converstion in a query with the packager every 12hours
21:18.19Megalonthat makes it restart
21:20.54Kaeltenfixed
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21:21.17Adirellesome times ago I learnt how Meteo France (main and historical weather broadcast institute) was running their computing jobs
21:21.33Adirellecuriously, they stick to one thing : no permanent process !
21:23.06PrimerYssaril: would it be possible to make Yssdrop have its popout go away once something within it was clicked?
21:23.20PrimerYssaril: and if so, would you like me to create a ticket asking for such a thing?
21:23.38Yssarilit would break every broker that spawns a menu so no
21:24.17Primerhow so?
21:24.46Primerthat's the problem I'm trying to overcome...click and have 2 menus, one above the other (recall I mentioned this a while back)
21:25.08Yssarilmenus (dropdown menus) get parented to the button they get clicked from but if i hide the menu the butten gets hidden and the menu also goes bye bye
21:26.33Yssarilthat was with bigbrother (fubar addon) right?
21:26.49Primeryes
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21:27.24Yssarilbecause yssdrop tries to reparent all frames that get spawned from it to the left or the right of the yssdrop frame but fubar stuff has always been borked
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21:36.19YssarilPrimer: biggest problem with yssdrop is that LDB does not give displays any control over where tooltips/dropdowns spawn so i have to iterate over every frame in the game and check its parent and then reparent it
21:36.24Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
21:36.25Repod33f600: Minor config. panel tweaks.
21:36.26Repo5342e59: Also dump db.char in /sq2test.
21:36.30Repof521e20: Typo.
21:36.35Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 041.0 * 6d28b0e /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0.
21:36.39PrimerYssaril: sounds like a hassle
21:36.49Yssarilohh it is
21:37.58Adirellecrap, forgot to push today office work
21:38.56Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0.1 Squire2.lua: [+1 commit] Properly clear the "macro" attribute when using "macrotext".
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22:00.18pompy1"The Moonkin Hatchling and Lil' Ragnaros pets are now available for $10 in the Blizzard Store!  Remember, these are for charity!"
22:03.12ckknightpompy1: but how much goes to charity?
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22:05.43Nobgulckknight %50
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22:07.11ulicand I think only the hatchling is for charity.
22:07.19pompy1yeah what Nobgul said
22:08.02pompy1http://www.wowhead.com/blog=174000/moonkin-hatchlings-lil-ragnaros-now-available-in-blizzard-store
22:08.05nebula169yea
22:08.06nebula169For every Moonkin Hatchling purchased from November 29 through December 31, 2010, Blizzard Entertainment will donate 50% of the $10 purchase price to the Make-A-Wish Foundation®.
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22:13.38HjalteCurse client downloads are failing?
22:17.28Primer[flyable] in WG is never true
22:17.35Primerthey really fucked the pooch
22:17.53Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1458 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Fixed weapon damage multiplier scaling
22:17.54Repo- Added/updated Warrior abilities
22:18.44mojosdojoHjalte: yes
22:19.28mojosdojoPrimer: that's why I need a second macro for flying with my druid oO
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22:20.53PrimerI've had to put my mounts on my bars
22:21.09Primerbefore all I had was a macro, and it worked fine for all occasions
22:23.14jnwhitehSlayman: Didn't see a response from you
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22:24.31orgevowhat is everyone using for editing wow files?  I'm terribly addicted to IDEs, so I've been using AddonStudio (have had to start making changes to the source code at this point, to keep it running), but windows installer code is just way outside my realm of knowledge, and it's getting to be more and more of a struggle with the .msi file that I end up with, each time I have to recompile it.  Was wondering if anyone had seen any other tools of that ilk around any
22:25.21Primerwhat does msi have to do with editing Lua?
22:25.34orgevonothing.
22:25.53CrazyBennynotepad++ is all you need ;)
22:26.36PrimerI use the lua plugin for eclipse, since I use eclipse for everything else. It's not that great, just syntax highlighting and lint checking
22:26.45Primerbut that's all I really need
22:26.51YssarilPrimer: you should use mounted or squire for all your mount needs :)
22:27.10orgevoI'm familiar with all the basic text/code editors.  I was just wondering if anyone knew of any up and coming wow-compatible IDEs out in cyber land
22:27.42Primerwhy? A macro has always sufficed
22:29.56orgevo@primer: eclipse I'm not too familar with.  I know that I've seen a reference to that app before, but can't say that I know anything else about it.  I'll take a look at it
22:30.29YssarilPrimer: more features :P (also all mounted does is make a single macro but modfies that macro to give you random mounts that are appropriate for your current location and works properly with WG )
22:30.48Primerahhh
22:30.51PrimerI'll have to try it
22:30.56PrimerI take it it's one of yours?
22:31.12Yssarilyea i would wait till i have the next major release ready
22:31.39Yssarilthe current version works but is kinda fragile due to the 4.0 changes
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23:04.54MirrormnStanzilla: I was hoping that issue would go away when I fixed cross-realm dungeon aura tracking
23:06.59Stanzillaah
23:07.05Stanzillabut it didn't :p
23:07.17Mirrormnin that case I don't know :(
23:07.36Mirrormnwhat level do shamans get earth shield?
23:08.00nebula16910
23:08.04nebula169its their spec bonus, iirc
23:08.19MirrormnI suppose I'll just level a shaman then
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23:24.20Repo10allyoucaneat: 03kunda * r17 AllYouCanEat.lua: text width
23:24.28znf_YAY!
23:24.31znf_new pets available!
23:24.36znf_*adds to cart*
23:24.59Repo10allyoucaneat: 03kunda 0440000-2 * r18 : Tagging as 40000-2
23:25.22durcynapparently the ragnaros pet works as a cooking fire
23:26.46znf_yeah, just read it :D
23:26.57znf_let's see how this looks ingame :D
23:27.23znf_I'm a sucker for vanity pets
23:27.28znf_got 102 with these 2 =)
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23:32.53orgevothis is possibly a noob question, but I can't seem to recall ever doing it so I'm wondering if that's because it isn't possible.  Is there a way to get the name of the function assigned with SetScript()?  GetScript() retrieves the reference to the function, but funcRef.name and funcRef:GetName() don't work...
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23:34.20orgevo(essentially just for debugging purposes)
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23:41.56Yssarilorgevo: there is no way
23:42.14AxodiousTorhal you around? got a question about libtourist
23:42.31Yssarilsince functions are passed by reference i can have a function with 100 "names" since the name doesnt mean anything
23:42.39Repo10critic: 03Zeksie * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed weapon/defence skills from equations.
23:43.01ulic<PROTECTED>
23:43.08ulicnice, we can cook with him!
23:43.20Jerubi bought and made a cooking recipe from the new vendor last night
23:44.30znf_exploiting fishing stuff, are we? :P
23:44.50Jerubznf_: nope.
23:45.03Jerubspent tokens on my lowbies on a crate of food
23:45.05znf_what recipe?
23:45.06znf_ah
23:45.13znf_was thinking of doing that
23:45.54Jerubwell, i got a crate of food, it dropped the monstrous claw, so i bought the +stam +hit food.
23:47.39znf_I got some fish :D
23:47.48znf_went to uldum, really easy to go there :P
23:47.50znf_but they hotfixed
23:47.52orgevoYssaril: hmm, yea that makes sense.  Know anything about debuglocals()?  I see it used in Blizzard_DebugTools.lua, but doesn't seem to return a value when I call it with the same parameter [4].  Tried 0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, etc. as well, nothing-doing.  Thinking perhaps it only works from secure code?  Or that I am completely missing how it's supposed to be used...
23:47.58znf_wish I fished more :(
23:48.45orgevoznf: awww, no wallwalking anymore?
23:49.05Yssarilorgevo: no idea i usually just toss print(...) statments everywhere when i debug to figure out whats going on
23:49.08znf_wallwalking still works
23:49.15znf_fishing trough tanaris doesn't work anymore
23:49.21orgevoah
23:49.34znf_now you just don't catch anything :D
23:49.37znf_loots empty
23:49.55znf_they fixed both hyjal and uldum, oh and the skinning of sharks in thousand needles
23:49.58znf_and wetlands
23:50.00Jerubthey really don't want anyone getting to their precious new content until dec 7th
23:50.21Jerubi'm wondering something
23:50.24Jerubi have a level 79 shammy
23:50.33NobgulFishing in hyjal is working
23:50.35Jerubcan i hit the new content at 79  and do quests? or do i need to get her to 80
23:50.49znf_hmmm? where in Hyjal?
23:50.52znf_the place near Azshara?
23:50.56NobgulYer
23:51.00TorhalAxodious: What's up?
23:51.02znf_no idea how to get there :-/
23:51.02NobgulIm still getting sharptooth etc
23:51.15znf_the one in winterspring was fixed
23:51.44MirrormnLua has a whole debugging library ( http://www.lua.org/pil/23.html ) but I don't think it's included in WoW
23:52.07MirrormnI, as Yssaril suggested, simply toss print() statements all over to debug ^_^
23:52.20orgevoYssaril: the problem i was trying to double-check was what was happening to an inline function (not sure what the right term is for this, in lua) that was being assigned via SetScript(), after a call to collectgarbage.  I strongly suspect that the function is being gc'd but the reference is still there.  However at some arbitrary point later on, wow crashes.  Not my addon, but writing a plugin for the addon in question, though at this point, I have only that a
23:52.51Mirrormnanonymous function
23:53.03orgevoMirrormn: yeah, so sad...no debugging goodness   :(
23:53.14orgevobut i get why.
23:53.26vhaarrthe only thing you can do is nil out any references you hold to the function, and stop worrying about it
23:53.27Yssarilorgevo: if you assign a function to setscript it can not be GCed unless youremove all references to it from your code AND do SetScript(script, nil)
23:53.51Mirrormnin any case
23:53.58Mirrormnthat should not cause wow to crash
23:54.09orgevogotcha...so my suspicion was correct.
23:54.16Yssarilorgevo: why the hell are you call ing collectgarbage anyways?
23:54.23orgevoI'm not.
23:54.31Yssarilk good
23:54.33orgevoAnother addon is
23:54.54Mirrormnby the way
23:54.58Mirrormnin what way does wow crash?
23:55.25orgevoI have a plugin for AtlasLoot that adds an improved search feature.  AtlasLoot's search code contains a call to collectgarbage (at least, at the moment)
23:55.58orgevostandard windows AV, I suppose.  Doesn't invoke the wow crash reporter
23:56.09Mirrormndoes the UI just freeze for a bit and then windows declares it unresponsive?
23:56.19TorhalFeh.
23:56.21Torhalnaps.
23:56.34Repo10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 1989c23 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed some xml files
23:56.45Yssarilslaps Torhal to prevent him from napping.
23:57.13orgevono, doesn't freeze the window (hard-lock), or otherwise become unresponsive (soft-lock).  It crashes - straight up windows 'close program or debug' dialog.
23:57.46Mirrormnhmm
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23:58.17MirrormnI have encountered a situation before where I was able to get WoW to straight-up crash using Lua code, but I couldn't really figure out how it had been done
23:58.20Yssarilnot much debugging you can do in that case i think (i dont even think it writes out the SV files in those cases)
23:58.32Mirrormnit involved Texture handling
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23:58.58Mirrormnand no it wouldn't write out SavedVariables on a crash like that
23:59.13orgevothat, combined with the fact that SetScript() is called with an anonymous function on a widget that, once it executes this anonymous function, calls collectgarbage from within said function, is what led me to believe that GC doesn't clean up those references.

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