| 00:00.19 | Gagorian- | Well, I might switch it temporarily but the problem is that I really don't want any feedback on the changes I've made yet |
| 00:00.26 | Gagorian- | Having no changelog helps with that ;) |
| 00:00.52 | Gagorian- | Other option is of course not packaging alphas at all |
| 00:02.33 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r190 / (4 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
| 00:06.00 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1447 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added event to update base values on level-up |
| 00:06.56 | Zasurus | Gagorian: If you stop Repo's posting here it keeps out us nosey ppl! ;-) |
| 00:07.41 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r191 / (5 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
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| 00:08.11 | Zasurus | Can't stop users trolling CurseForge and WowAce though downloading your ALPHAs and complaining it errored! :( LOL |
| 00:08.31 | Gagorian- | Zasurus: Well I don't mind the people here that much, the bigger problem is the people you mentioned :) |
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| 00:10.46 | Gagorian- | It's annoying since I keep changing the core files which could cause errors in other modules than the one I'm currently working on, I really don't want to test all 10 classes for every alpha I commit :P |
| 00:11.24 | Zasurus | Yer I had one a few days ago.. To be fair they where only trying to be helpfull but I think the knolage of what Release, Beta and Alpha's are for isn't known. The guy got a bit stroppy at first when I closed his ticket with invalid saying it is an alpha so will be full of bugs... He said I shouldn't release it to the general public if it doesn't work... Hehe I pointed out I didn't I released |
| 00:11.25 | Zasurus | it on curseforge and explained the difference and he was OK but without the knolage of what these test releases are it causes problems. |
| 00:11.51 | Zasurus | Hehe 145 pages of files! You have been busy! :O |
| 00:12.10 | Zasurus | I thought I was bad... feel better about my commits now :) |
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| 00:14.08 | harl | what the hell.. something in my config.wtf seems to cause my severe fps losses |
| 00:14.31 | Zasurus | All graphics and sound settings are in there |
| 00:15.08 | harl | yeah, i know.. but i've never modified the file, so everything in there is what i changed in-game |
| 00:15.28 | Zasurus | Maybe a few settings got curruped on the change to cata... lots of new settings went in there |
| 00:16.33 | Zasurus | Maybe two that shouldn't be on together got turned on... I had to reset my housemates (well delete it! :)) all good now though. (He got loads of graphics errors though not fps probs) |
| 00:17.34 | harl | ok, so i'll have the game create a new one, then change things back in-game to what they're supposed to be to my likings and then i'll compare the files manually. |
| 00:18.00 | Zasurus | Yer good plan :) |
| 00:18.52 | Gagorian- | Zasurus: I blame Blizzard and their constant changes to classes :) |
| 00:19.09 | Gagorian- | 3 years of keeping up = a lot of commits |
| 00:19.38 | Zasurus | Gagorian: if they didn't do that what would you do with your spair time???? PLAY WOW??? :O ;-) |
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| 00:19.46 | Zasurus | spare* |
| 00:22.38 | harl | how dare you even mentioned that evil piece of software. lol.. |
| 00:22.48 | doom0r | windows? |
| 00:23.50 | harl | fried chicken wings |
| 00:27.55 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03MuffinManKen * r305 data.lua: |
| 00:27.56 | Repo | fixed Battlegear of Valor set (missed checking in this file) |
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| 00:29.03 | Dark_Elf | umm this may sound stupid but did blizzard remove for example staff leveling wand leveling, i notice the game dont do it no more? |
| 00:29.16 | doom0r | yes |
| 00:29.20 | doom0r | weapon skill is gone |
| 00:29.21 | harl | yes, they're all gone |
| 00:29.40 | SunTsu | that was a wise move |
| 00:30.24 | Dark_Elf | i dunno i kind of like the wand missing at lowerlevels on high level monsters. made it a challenge to use weapon |
| 00:30.46 | SunTsu | now, if they only would speed up learning fishing.. 265->275 took nearly 25 minutes |
| 00:31.30 | SunTsu | Dark_Elf: Imagine a melee at lvl85 receiving his first mace - it takes ages until he even hits mobs his level |
| 00:31.58 | doom0r | you should have it leveld by then |
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| 00:32.01 | doom0r | level as you level |
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| 00:32.15 | SunTsu | so, good riddance to weapon skill |
| 00:32.26 | SunTsu | doom0r: every possible weapon? ridiculous |
| 00:32.38 | doom0r | no, i've always done it with my chars |
| 00:33.38 | Zasurus | I would just find someone just low enought not to kill me and then keep hitting him until it leveled enough to kill him then move on! ;-) |
| 00:33.52 | Zasurus | But glad it has gone... never felt it was anything more than a chore |
| 00:33.56 | SunTsu | doom0r: and you always had every type of weapon ready to train that skill? sounds unrealistic |
| 00:34.14 | doom0r | yes, you keep junk greens and do what zasurus says everytime you level |
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| 00:34.36 | Zasurus | Although something felt good about getting "Did Somebody Order a Knuckle Sandwich?" LOL |
| 00:34.47 | doom0r | i understand that the weapon skill is crap, but having known you needed it, there was no excuse to not do it |
| 00:35.04 | doom0r | and "Master of Arms" |
| 00:35.25 | Zasurus | That one not so much... |
| 00:35.40 | SunTsu | doom0r: I am thankful it's gone. It was quite unfair that casters didn't have to care about that skill while ist was essential for melee |
| 00:35.46 | Zasurus | Wasn't as primevil as beating that many mobs to death with your fists |
| 00:35.57 | SunTsu | s/ist/it/ |
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| 00:36.26 | doom0r | me too, but i still did it ;x |
| 00:37.41 | Zasurus | Oh I did it... but only cause it was an achievement and I can't help it! :| LOL |
| 00:38.19 | Zasurus | Oh like Kraps linked on wowuidev: [2010/11/26 - 00:21] <Kraps> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2487-The-Skinner-Box |
| 00:38.30 | Zasurus | I guess that is why I can't help it! LOL |
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| 00:42.38 | harl | i always leveled all of my weapon skills at certain points in the game. say, when i was using the same weapon type from level 1 to 40 and ignored them for the most parts, then switched to another type for better stats, i'd take some time to level all of them so they'd match at least 1 or 2 levels below my own. |
| 00:43.01 | Gagorian- | Zasurus: Haven't played WoW since TBC |
| 00:43.02 | harl | i don't see how that's any difficult. |
| 00:43.29 | Zasurus | Gagorian: Just make/upadate addons then? |
| 00:43.34 | SunTsu | harl: it's tedious work |
| 00:43.38 | Gagorian | Zasurus: Yeah |
| 00:43.45 | harl | SunTsu: not.. really? |
| 00:44.16 | SunTsu | especially when you are using a heirloom weapon |
| 00:44.46 | harl | because heirloom weapons are so bad? |
| 00:44.49 | Zasurus | Gagorian: Yer get that... not done one quest (bar cooking last week just because) for months! BUT I WILL make time for cata :) |
| 00:45.10 | SunTsu | harl: because you don't switch weapons with heirloom weapons |
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| 00:45.30 | harl | the damage of those weapons has absolutely nothing to do with it. |
| 00:46.30 | harl | i'd just switch weapons while questing, start hitting something, eat, read or whatever, start over.. |
| 00:47.02 | harl | and a few minutes later the weapon skill would be at least at let's say 200 something or more |
| 00:47.52 | doom0r | ^ |
| 00:48.17 | doom0r | some people are just like that SunTsu, we just do those things and have them done, not a chore so much |
| 00:48.45 | SunTsu | harl: you normally don't do that when using heirlooms |
| 00:49.17 | Yssaril | i got all my weapon and unarmed skills to max before they patched the banished guy infront of BT that you could attack for hours on nd without getting hit back |
| 00:49.20 | doom0r | heirlooms weren't around before wrath, so your skill should have been up to par ;x |
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| 00:50.07 | SunTsu | doom0r: 5 of my 11 toons were created during Wrath |
| 00:51.47 | SunTsu | I of course found ways of skilling weapons, but I still found it tedious and a waste of time. As if a warrior who knows how to swing an axe didn't grasp how to use a mace |
| 00:51.48 | Hjalte | Is there a worgen faction tabard you can buy now? |
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| 00:52.02 | SunTsu | Hjalte: yes, in Darnassus |
| 00:54.03 | Sorha | Is there any reason that L should be nil on this in an english client. local L = LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("SorhaQuestLog", "koKR"). It is from the top of my Locale-koKR.lua, which is included in my toc below my enUS one but above my core.lua? :( |
| 00:54.10 | Sorha | Also that was a really long line >.> |
| 00:55.17 | Zasurus | Yer that is the koKR one... need enUS for english? |
| 00:56.04 | Zasurus | AceLocale-3.0 returns nil if the language is wrong so you have one for each lang. Or am I mis understanding your question :) |
| 00:56.36 | Sorha | Oh.. so I should just have a if L= nil then return at the top of each file, and it will just quit the files if it is for the wrong language? |
| 00:56.40 | Sorha | Also do you ever sleep >.> |
| 00:57.37 | Zasurus | I feel I should sleep... :) Get about 4-6 hours at moment :p And I don't think I understand you then as L=nil is not correct |
| 00:57.54 | Sorha | "Locale Table to add localizations to, or nil if the current locale is not required." herp a derp :( I am blind |
| 00:57.55 | Zasurus | Are you setting up AceLocale for the first time |
| 00:58.25 | Sorha | Yeah still learning about it all, my english one works.. but I just noticed today I might have forgot to put my koKR one in the toc.. so it never loaded >.> |
| 00:58.44 | Zasurus | hehe that won't help! ;) |
| 00:59.18 | Zasurus | It's simple once you get it working... ;-) LOL |
| 00:59.37 | Sorha | ^_^ "if not L then return end" Magics |
| 00:59.48 | Zasurus | Yup |
| 01:00.00 | Sorha | Can I assume the one I have set as default will always return not nil? |
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| 01:00.33 | Yssaril | yep |
| 01:00.43 | Yssaril | it should also be the first oneyou load |
| 01:01.01 | Sorha | Done that through sheer dumb luck :D |
| 01:01.05 | Sorha | Thanks guys :) |
| 01:01.27 | Zasurus | hehe I call that "Coding" sounds better than "sheer dumb luck" ;-) |
| 01:01.44 | Zasurus | My CV would suck if I used that phrase! :D |
| 01:02.00 | Sorha | lol :) |
| 01:02.11 | doom0r | ya, mine would be full of "Common Sense" |
| 01:02.12 | Zasurus | If you use repo's then check this out: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w-localization |
| 01:02.27 | Zasurus | Makes it a lot easyer! ;) |
| 01:02.53 | Zasurus | Let wowace do the work for you... |
| 01:02.57 | Sorha | been tempted to do that, though scared of losing my nicely formatted enUS if I misplace my local copy ^_^ |
| 01:03.49 | Zasurus | You mean the way you have split out the translations into sections or something? |
| 01:04.04 | Yssaril | Sorha: i let wowace take care of all locales exept enUS i just keep my hardcoded one in the addon since it works fine :) |
| 01:04.06 | Sorha | Pretty much yes |
| 01:04.41 | Sorha | I guess I could just not put the repo tag in the enUS one couldn't I.. This is why you don't try to do things after just waking up >.< |
| 01:04.54 | Zasurus | I keep a copy of the english one locally and use that to make changes to that then import it when I make changes and let other translate... then curseforge does the rest! |
| 01:04.59 | Yssaril | Sorha: yep |
| 01:05.00 | Zasurus | Yer like that |
| 01:06.39 | Sorha | As I changed some values for keys in enUS away from true to not break translations should I either not use 'same-key-is-true', or just go and break the translations by making values keys? :D |
| 01:07.16 | Zasurus | What? :| LOL |
| 01:07.33 | Zasurus | you changed what for what? |
| 01:08.06 | Sorha | Think its just me misreading the documentaion on curseforge >.> |
| 01:08.09 | Sorha | Ok.. I am going to go get some caffine, hit myself in the head with a hammer a few times and come back to this >.> |
| 01:08.19 | Zasurus | Oh you mean you changed L["test"] = true; to L["test"] = "Testing" |
| 01:08.28 | Sorha | Yep |
| 01:09.03 | Zasurus | With you... You can do it that way or you could go and create a new key copy the translation into it manually for each lang and delete the old one... :D |
| 01:09.29 | Zasurus | Depends if it will bug you it's wrong or not (I did the delete and change one! ;)) |
| 01:09.46 | Zasurus | Luckly only german had been translated for me so only one value to copy |
| 01:10.30 | Sorha | koKR only so far I think here so its not alot of changes ^_^ |
| 01:11.02 | Zasurus | Yer just create the new key copy the translation across from the old key and delete the old one :D |
| 01:11.09 | Zasurus | You know you will feel better! ;-) |
| 01:11.14 | harl | doesn't speak any korean whatsoever. |
| 01:11.33 | Zasurus | only just speaks english.. nothing else! ;) |
| 01:11.59 | Sorha | I speak what resembles english |
| 01:12.00 | harl | someday i'll change everything |
| 01:12.27 | Zasurus | harl: What EVERYTHING?! :O but I like my dog the way she is! :| |
| 01:13.06 | harl | well, i won't change the dogs. |
| 01:13.30 | Zasurus | OK panic over... |
| 01:14.02 | harl | hehe |
| 01:14.30 | Sorha | So my koKR.lua would contain only the L = getlocale, L~=nil lines as well as this? --@localization(locale="koKR", format="lua_additive_table", handle-subnamespaces="none")@ |
| 01:15.02 | Zasurus | Thanks you just made my text to speach go mad! :P |
| 01:15.14 | Sorha | lol |
| 01:15.19 | Zasurus | But yer... |
| 01:16.08 | Sorha | Learning locales but no way to test if they explode or not until I get an angry Next96 come running at me ^_^ |
| 01:16.19 | Zasurus | Then the --@......@ part will be replace on packaging to be all the keys and values e.gl. L["test"] = "<@>::" |
| 01:16.24 | harl | wonders if Zasurus is visually impaired or something |
| 01:17.27 | Zasurus | nope just have wow on one screen and coding on the other so get tts read you lot out to see if I should give you screen space! :P |
| 01:18.02 | doom0r | grins |
| 01:18.09 | harl | i c |
| 01:21.44 | Zasurus | OK must be time for bed... I just worked out I have wasted that last 2 hours on the wrong section of code! LOL Night all |
| 01:22.22 | harl | gnite Zas |
| 01:23.12 | Sorha | Nite :) |
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| 01:28.01 | Repo | 10lern2count: 03zhTW * r139 lern2count.toc: TOC update |
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| 02:15.49 | orionshock | wtf? no new talent point every level? |
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| 02:24.23 | Repo | 10census-wholib-version: 03sylvanaar 07default, original * r25 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag beta5 for changeset 6c345f5a5d72 |
| 02:24.24 | Repo | Merge with current census |
| 02:24.25 | Repo | census version 4.3.2 |
| 02:30.56 | Zyn | it would be really silly if that was the case with all the changes, orionshock :3 |
| 02:31.40 | orionshock | Zyn, that's how it was before .... |
| 02:34.34 | Zyn | I guess you just resubbed |
| 02:35.05 | orionshock | never left :) |
| 02:35.20 | orionshock | but last time i leveled a toon, it was a new point every level from like 12 on |
| 02:35.41 | Zyn | now it's one talent point every odd level |
| 02:36.12 | doom0r | Players will now get a total of 41 talent points to spend at level 85. |
| 02:36.21 | Zyn | with abilities being trainable in between ... until you reach the 60-70 area |
| 02:36.29 | Zyn | long stretches of nothing |
| 02:36.51 | doom0r | (85 -9) / 41 |
| 02:37.15 | Zyn | and I just put 41 talent points in Snooze |
| 02:37.17 | Zyn | time to hit the sack |
| 02:38.12 | Zyn | while a freight train is right outside and running its engines |
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| 03:08.31 | Repo | the Config Update Button and the Filter Pulldown Menus are now correctly enabled/disabled |
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| 04:56.18 | NeoTron | man I admit the "randomly making the wrong text a header" bug in LibQTip is somewhat annoying :P |
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| 05:04.31 | Torhal | NeoTron: Very annoying. And it only happens in random AddOns. |
| 05:05.04 | NeoTron | any idea what could cause it? |
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| 05:05.15 | NeoTron | it's bizarre since it seems to steal the font from the actual header.. |
| 05:05.44 | Torhal | I have an idea, I'll look into it tomorrow. |
| 05:06.09 | NeoTron | cool. I found btw that a 7 column display gets deadly slow after 100-150 rows |
| 05:06.23 | NeoTron | but I don't think it's LibQTip's fault, seems to just be blizzard frames handlign |
| 05:06.45 | NeoTron | so I'm adding pagination |
| 05:07.35 | Torhal | Yah, I found that out when I used LQT to prototype the panel in GearGauge |
| 05:08.07 | NeoTron | basically the first 20 rows took 2 ms while row 440 to 460 took over 1 second |
| 05:08.10 | NeoTron | adding them I mean |
| 05:11.17 | harl | sounds like there's some wrong loop design or something |
| 05:12.08 | NeoTron | yeah. wouldn't surprise me if it was something with a frame having a lot of child frames |
| 05:12.39 | Yssaril | Torhal: does LQT make each cell relative to the one above it or to the top of the tooltip? |
| 05:13.07 | Torhal | Yssaril: Cell-relation |
| 05:13.21 | Yssaril | that would cause it to be slow as hell |
| 05:13.23 | Torhal | cell/column |
| 05:13.39 | Torhal | It wasn't intended for spreadsheets :) |
| 05:13.56 | Yssaril | if you set all points to a common point it should fix the slowness |
| 05:14.04 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 05:14.13 | NeoTron | to it doesn't have to calculate everything before it ot know where to put it |
| 05:14.43 | Yssaril | correct the 100ths cell has to check all 99 cells before it to figure out where it is |
| 05:15.09 | NeoTron | and I'm talking about 435 * 7 cells plus some |
| 05:15.27 | Yssaril | yep |
| 05:15.35 | NeoTron | explains why scrolling gets slow too |
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| 05:18.20 | Torhal | To be more precise: The first line is anchored to the top of the tooltip's scroll-child. Each successive line is anchored to the bottom of the line before it. |
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| 05:29.16 | NeoTron | know what would be awesome? If you could specify lines at the top and bottom not to be scrollable. heh |
| 05:35.18 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-19-gdbfcc0d Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] Made addon:ScanVendor() more fault-tolerant. |
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| 06:16.38 | Zhinjio | Shefki: ping |
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| 06:20.14 | Shefki | pong |
| 06:20.55 | Zhinjio | Shefki: pitbull party and raid config modes are not currently showing example frames. known bug? Or have I done something stupid? |
| 06:24.19 | Shefki | known bug, they broke how we did config mode and I haven't gotten around to working around it. |
| 06:24.33 | Zhinjio | okey dokey. Just making sure. |
| 06:25.13 | Zhinjio | thanks. sorry to bug you |
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| 07:09.15 | NeoTron | Torhal: why does a cell I specifically say can only be 20 pixels wide grow to be, well, a lot bigger? :( |
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| 07:18.30 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r192 / (6 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
| 07:20.56 | Slayman | how are the druids forms numbered in the stance:# conditional for macros |
| 07:24.48 | Repo | 10blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 * r105 BloodShieldTracker.lua: Changing DS heal to 20% for the hotfix. |
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| 07:35.21 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r193 / (3 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
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| 07:44.38 | NeoTron | works fine without a colspan on the line above Ah well |
| 07:47.14 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 07master * 1.15 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Change LDB Icon. |
| 07:47.19 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 041.15 * 8053427 /: [new tag] Tagging |
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| 08:09.17 | Repo | 10bulkmail-inbox: 03dhedbor * r103 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 08:09.18 | Repo | - Added inbox pagination in case you use your mailbox as a bank. |
| 08:09.19 | Repo | - Added inbox searching to find specific items by name. |
| 08:09.20 | Repo | - Added toolbar on top with Search, Take All, Take Cash, Take Selected, Clear Selected and Close buttons so you don't always have to scroll to the bottom to send. |
| 08:09.21 | Repo | - Some formatting issues in the tooltip fix. |
| 08:11.34 | NeoTron | http://static.wowace.com/content/images/28/112/BMI_Search.png |
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| 08:15.20 | mitch0 | neotron: point being |
| 08:15.21 | mitch0 | ? |
| 08:16.14 | mitch0 | oh, the actual search and items doesn't matter, just showing the search functionality? |
| 08:16.19 | NeoTron | right |
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| 08:16.39 | mitch0 | ok, thought there was something new and exciting in cata about motes of fire :) |
| 08:16.40 | NeoTron | this all started because a friend of mine complained it was slow and hard to find items on his inbox with 450 items :P |
| 08:16.54 | NeoTron | apparently he hasn't heard of a bank |
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| 10:33.49 | Repo | 46b1c25: Possible fix for the PvP minimap button not showing when in Wintergrasp or Tol Barad while there is no fight going on. Drycoded. |
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| 10:36.50 | Torhal | NeoTron: Elkano changed some layout stuff - we have a ticket on it |
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| 11:58.10 | harl | rawrr |
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| 12:11.28 | EthanCentaurai | wtb working HandyNotes |
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| 12:34.18 | evl | There's tons of wow-update-oldworld-13286.MPQ files in my Data folder, can they be nuked? |
| 12:37.01 | harl | you can delete the /Cache/ folder and most of its contents will most likely be re-downloaded if they haven't been already integrated into the base files |
| 12:37.37 | harl | i wouldn't delete those that are not in the Cache folder though.. |
| 12:39.28 | mitch0 | deleting cache also means 20 mins of applying non-critical blahblah |
| 12:39.52 | harl | yep |
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| 12:42.32 | harl | may want to delete wow.mfil wow.tfil launcher.wtf and .lock files too. they will most likely be recreated as they're part of the downloading and updating process by the launcher. |
| 12:43.05 | harl | dunno what it causes without using the launcher |
| 12:45.00 | evl | But i mean my WoW folder is 26gb |
| 12:45.04 | evl | seems sort of xTReme™ |
| 12:45.37 | harl | same here |
| 12:45.59 | harl | maybe there's a way to prevent the Cache folder from becoming like 8gb huge, but i haven't figured out one yet |
| 12:46.13 | harl | <> |
| 12:46.14 | Slayman | my WoW@W folder ist 30GB ;( |
| 12:46.28 | odt | yeah wow is taking up half the space on my SSD |
| 12:46.59 | odt | but it's also the reason why i got the ssd in the first place |
| 12:47.24 | Slayman | odt: worth it? |
| 12:47.27 | harl | still seems bloating though |
| 12:47.44 | odt | yeah, it's huge improvement for loading times |
| 12:48.37 | harl | creates up to about 2 gb of files in the cache folder a few minutes after starting and there's no way it should really need to do that |
| 12:49.24 | Slayman | maybe the mpq arranging of files is not that great |
| 12:50.00 | evl | On a side note, can anyone recommended a good AH addon setup? Auctioneer is just too bloated and QA3 stopped working :( |
| 12:50.25 | Slayman | evl: I'm quite pleases with AuctionLite |
| 12:50.36 | evl | Yeah I'm using that but it's bad for batchung |
| 12:50.39 | harl | well, it allocates the files aforefront to downloading them (or re-writing/re-compressing them using parts that are already in the Data folder).. |
| 12:50.41 | evl | I'm selling like 200 gems a day |
| 12:50.51 | harl | so, yeah, it's not really efficient |
| 12:51.41 | Slayman | u can select defaults for stacksize and number of stacks and wow has a builtin bulk mechanic now should be quite fine |
| 12:51.55 | evl | But I'll still have to alt click every item in my inventory |
| 12:51.58 | harl | it's probably easier this way to have the Cache folder re-integrated into the base files when the expansion hits.. but it's not efficient in terms of space and speed |
| 12:52.16 | evl | Slayman: I guess it would be trivial to write an addon that posted everything from your inventory using AuctionLite though |
| 12:52.37 | Slayman | evl: get right on that then |
| 12:53.00 | evl | Still need the summary view form QA3 |
| 12:53.03 | evl | Pure gold |
| 12:54.01 | odt | AH has always seemed like too much effort for me |
| 12:54.11 | odt | so I'm self sustainable with my 5 alts having all professions |
| 12:54.16 | evl | I make about 3k a day just clicking Post tbh |
| 12:54.19 | evl | takes about 10 min |
| 12:54.34 | odt | means I never have any money but I also rarely buy anything |
| 12:54.45 | evl | Travelers Tundar Mammoth? :) |
| 12:54.54 | odt | no money for that |
| 12:55.10 | odt | I still have stuff from vanilla days in inventories |
| 12:55.28 | haste | travele's mount is awesome for leveling |
| 12:55.59 | evl | Yeah I'm probably going to invest in it |
| 12:56.06 | evl | As soon as I reach 100k gold |
| 12:56.11 | evl | Next week I hope |
| 12:56.51 | harl | i don't seem to be good at selling or something. people don't even buy most of my stuff even though i make sure it's among the cheapest pieces |
| 12:56.52 | Slayman | so far i leveled up just peachy without any mammoth |
| 12:57.25 | odt | harl: i think to sell effectively you need to sell a lot |
| 12:57.32 | odt | that's why i haven't bothered |
| 12:58.01 | haste | I stopped AH-ing for gold when I hit 50k |
| 12:58.30 | Slayman | I'm just questing for my monetary desires |
| 12:58.40 | evl | harl; You really have to hammer the market |
| 12:58.45 | Slayman | so far all of my chars have 280% flying all's well |
| 12:59.08 | evl | harl: and tuesdays and wednesday nights are amazing |
| 12:59.13 | harl | how am i supposed to sell a lot if most of my stuff returns to my mailbox. it's just frustrating me having to spend deposits again and again just to gain an insignificant amount in the end.. |
| 12:59.33 | evl | 12 hour max is a first |
| 12:59.41 | harl | yeah, doesn't help |
| 12:59.45 | haste | 12h max, SANE splitting, SANE price |
| 12:59.47 | evl | what are you selling? |
| 12:59.54 | haste | and buy the entire market if you are bored |
| 12:59.59 | Slayman | playing the AH it's not for everyone certainly not for me |
| 13:00.14 | evl | I made 5k selling lost cats |
| 13:00.22 | evl | Now gone though :( |
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| 13:00.28 | harl | all kinds of things.. mainly trying it with jewels, inscription stuff, cloth, some herbs |
| 13:00.38 | harl | just doesn't work |
| 13:00.55 | evl | harl: Selling raw mats is almost never worth it |
| 13:01.07 | evl | if you have a sizeable farmer population on your server |
| 13:01.12 | harl | well, i don't raid |
| 13:01.24 | evl | harl: just post gems with min 10g profit and max 2 at a time in stacks of 1 |
| 13:02.20 | harl | i've tried to sell 2 of those +20 crit gems lately |
| 13:02.28 | haste | I just found a cD |
| 13:02.35 | evl | thing now is, with reforging |
| 13:02.37 | haste | that's een written on with a pen |
| 13:02.38 | evl | who wants to gem for crit |
| 13:02.47 | harl | took me 2 or 3 re-posts to sell one of them, although i posted them to be the cheapest in the ah |
| 13:02.48 | evl | you mainly want to churn out +str, agi, spi int |
| 13:03.00 | harl | yeah, that's not the point |
| 13:03.22 | harl | i've already had the gems, that's the point.. they changed armor penetration to crit |
| 13:03.45 | evl | Ahhh :D |
| 13:03.53 | evl | I was pretty fast getting rid of thoese |
| 13:05.42 | harl | and really to be honest, people posting stuff with like 1299999 when there's already something with 1300000 in the line, i totally hate this |
| 13:07.26 | evl | undercutting is the way of the world :P |
| 13:07.27 | harl | reducing the starting price(!) to get to the front of the line i one thing, but cutting on other people's profits to achieve the same is just frustrating |
| 13:07.39 | evl | I just undercut by 1fc |
| 13:07.40 | evl | 1c :P |
| 13:07.56 | harl | and people buy it. well they're stupid |
| 13:08.25 | harl | when i buy something and i see that, you won't see me buying the stuff that is undercutting another one by just 1c |
| 13:10.36 | harl | the whole "secret" of making profit seems to be that you have to buy and sell all the time, spending more time between the bank, mailbox and ah than with anything else |
| 13:14.17 | harl | though it's been more fun than that to mindlessly kill groups of mind-controlled heroes in icecrown west for some reason |
| 13:15.04 | harl | even though this only gets me about 300g/hour and i need to sit tight there |
| 13:15.17 | evl | not all the time |
| 13:15.19 | evl | once a day is enough |
| 13:15.35 | evl | I started doing JC with 5 gems a day of each kind with 10g+ profit in july |
| 13:15.48 | evl | Then I had 3k, now doing the same thing I have 87950g |
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| 14:03.47 | kagaro | anyone else having issues logging in? |
| 14:04.03 | Kalroth | yeah, i'm stuck ... at work! |
| 14:04.14 | mitch0 | me too :( |
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| 14:04.44 | kagaro | ive been stuck at logging into game server for 5 mins |
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| 14:22.08 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * cf0dd42 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Dry code: added sortable header widget stub files for Player and loot start including sort header for raid member list |
| 14:22.34 | kagaro | guess they sold a lot of copies or something even the main wow site is down |
| 14:24.50 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Rabbit * r298 Mendeleev.lua: |
| 14:24.51 | Repo | Don't try to hook the AtlasLootTooltip any more, seems like it's just a reference to an existing Blizz tip. |
| 14:26.29 | Zasurus | The main wow site is always down... I often wonder what the hell they spend our subscription on! ;-) |
| 14:27.03 | Zasurus | LOL battle.net chat is down now aswell! |
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| 14:33.51 | Ackis | punches Zasurus in the balls and watches him go down. :) |
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| 14:34.15 | kagaro | Ackis is in a frisky mood |
| 14:34.16 | Zasurus | drags him self out of the door.. |
| 14:35.12 | Zasurus | reminds him self revenge is a dish best served cold... ;) |
| 14:36.17 | Ackis | shouldn't you be throwing up? :P |
| 14:36.27 | Zasurus | :p |
| 14:41.00 | Slayman | they actually redid the goblin npc voices and speeches I find them much better now |
| 14:41.18 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis: did you get all the achievements on fable yet? |
| 14:41.50 | Ackis | yeah I'm 1k/1k for a few weeks now |
| 14:42.03 | sylvanaar_work | slaps you |
| 14:42.16 | sylvanaar_work | how do you do that |
| 14:42.18 | Slayman | sylvanaar_work: you are a very well connected person, can't you get a brother a good used smartphone? |
| 14:42.46 | sylvanaar_work | like what |
| 14:43.03 | sylvanaar_work | iPhone? |
| 14:43.10 | Slayman | iphone 3gs or win7phone sth along those lines |
| 14:43.27 | sylvanaar_work | maybe iPhone 3g |
| 14:43.46 | sylvanaar_work | the gs's have too much resale value |
| 14:44.08 | sylvanaar_work | they sell for the same as the discounted iphone 4 |
| 14:44.11 | Ackis | sylvanaar_work: I just played it a lot, I did two complete playthroughs lol and I didn't play any WoW |
| 14:44.26 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis: i still havent finished it |
| 14:44.49 | Slayman | 3g for cheap still beats my HTC G1 |
| 14:45.21 | sylvanaar_work | i'll see how much these guys want for the 3g if you like, remind me on monday |
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| 14:45.49 | Slayman | will do |
| 14:45.58 | Ackis | sylvanaar_work: it's a good game, albeit a bit buggy |
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| 14:48.14 | sylvanaar_work | on another note, the extended version of avatar is cool |
| 14:48.19 | sylvanaar_work | anyone seen it |
| 14:49.03 | sylvanaar_work | its neat to see how they re-edited it to cut out the extra footage |
| 14:50.00 | Slayman1 | Well I saw Pocahontas once, is the extended cut any different? the normal version ain't except a slight blue miscoloration |
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| 14:55.21 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 15:03.41 | sylvanaar_work | oh stop |
| 15:05.21 | sylvanaar_work | Pocahontas didnt have Sam Worthington, so by definition its inferior |
| 15:09.12 | Slayman1 | sam ain't worth ington it |
| 15:09.52 | Slayman1 | are mine as bad as they sound? I find them hilarious |
| 15:10.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7607 / (7 files in 4 directories): |
| 15:10.32 | Repo | * Change from using AceGUI to AceOptions/Config because it's easier and faster to modify (we really need to add some options for messages/bars etc) |
| 15:10.33 | Repo | * Added some font options for the messages |
| 15:10.34 | Repo | * Possibly other option additions I forgot |
| 15:14.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7608 Plugins/Messages.lua: Aaaand remove a debug print. |
| 15:23.09 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r320 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
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| 15:23.17 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r129 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: |
| 15:23.18 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 15:23.26 | Repo | 10libbabble-itemset-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r5 LibBabble-ItemSet-3.0.lua: |
| 15:23.30 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 15:23.33 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r299 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 15:23.35 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 15:29.14 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-20-gd8cdf5a / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add the 6 cata reps to the interface, all disabled. There's really 8 reps, but two of them are alliance/horde specific. |
| 15:29.39 | Ackis | @project libbabble-faction-3-0 |
| 15:29.41 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbabble-faction-3-0/. LibBabble-Faction-3.0. Game: WoW. Daviesh (Manager/Author), Ackis (Maintainer), Nevcairiel (Maintainer). Updated: 5 minutes ago |
| 15:49.05 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-21-g57faaa3 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Forgot to add the faction info into the rest of the mod. Some sections are commented out for now. |
| 16:01.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7609 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
| 16:01.12 | Stanzilla | Ackis: plx fix http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/heal-organizer.aspx :p |
| 16:01.15 | Stanzilla | kthx! |
| 16:02.26 | Ackis | really? |
| 16:02.27 | Ackis | :( |
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| 16:02.56 | Ackis | I thought there were 2-3 replacements for it already |
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| 16:03.45 | Stanzilla | Ackis: dunno, have a link? |
| 16:04.12 | Ackis | no I stopped raiding so I didn't really have to assign any healers so I didn't end up using it for wrath :P |
| 16:04.25 | Ackis | I wanted to rewrite it, but since I stopped playing and whatnot there was no need |
| 16:04.53 | Ackis | iirc the comments and variables in HO are in german, I just made a few tweaks to it to keep it running |
| 16:08.08 | Stanzilla | surgeongeneral will do |
| 16:08.28 | Ackis | chicken :P |
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| 16:26.30 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3055 LootTableModules/ (3 files in 3 directories): pvp price update |
| 16:26.47 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r184 Changelog.txt: Updating changelog. |
| 16:27.11 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.6.4 * r185 : Tagging as v0.6.4 |
| 16:27.22 | Ackis | Parnic: why are we talking on twitter? |
| 16:30.04 | Repo | 10easy-button: 03ulic * r16 EasyButton.lua: Added Mage's Focus Magic |
| 16:30.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r3056 LootTableModules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: bugfix |
| 16:31.42 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbabble-faction-3-0/tickets/7-why-tickets-get-deleted/ followed by http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbabble-faction-3-0/tickets/8-ok-nvm-me-then/ |
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| 16:33.42 | Repo | 10easy-button: 03ulic 04v1.2 * r17 : Tagging as v1.2 |
| 16:33.43 | Repo | - Added support for Mage's Focus Magic |
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| 16:47.25 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: when i use my scroll wheel to scroll around in ACP, wow hangs itself o.O |
| 16:47.33 | nevcairiel | dragging the scrollbar works |
| 16:47.59 | nevcairiel | actually |
| 16:48.00 | nevcairiel | nevermind |
| 16:48.11 | nevcairiel | wow also hangs itself when i just scroll without ACP open :P |
| 16:55.15 | Niv | odd |
| 16:57.21 | Megalon | stop killing wow nevcairiel |
| 16:57.27 | Megalon | YOU ARE VIOLATING GENEVA CONVENTIONS HERE |
| 17:00.05 | harl | why do people load external libbabbles anyway.. |
| 17:00.29 | harl | oh well, i've done it myself, but that's a different story |
| 17:05.58 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r195 / (2 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
| 17:06.34 | Yoshimo | @describe bison |
| 17:06.36 | Repo | Yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bison/. Bison. Customizing your buff display |
| 17:18.18 | Stanzilla | preparing for cata since 1988 |
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| 17:22.16 | nevcairiel | Twin Peaks, is that a new battleground? |
| 17:22.22 | Humbedooh | yesh |
| 17:22.48 | Humbedooh | it's also a series by David Lynch |
| 17:23.35 | SunTsu | Tol Barad really sounds Tolkien-ish |
| 17:24.03 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal 042.3.2-release * r196 : prepare for cata |
| 17:24.20 | Stanzilla | prepare for more cata! |
| 17:26.37 | nevcairiel | So, i'm thinking about redoing the dropdowns on the world map to change zone. Do people actually like two dropdowns, for continent/zone, or was the catographer thing better, one dewdrop style menu with sub menus? |
| 17:30.43 | nevcairiel | i needz input! |
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| 17:34.31 | Talryn | I think I'd prefer the two dropdowns. |
| 17:37.39 | Repo | 10libsql: 03Humbedooh * r23 LibSQL-1.0.lua: Fixed a bug where LibSQL:Acquire would pass on all field types as STRING (thus borking the searches). |
| 17:37.51 | Humbedooh | you mean 1 for continent, 1 for zone= |
| 17:37.56 | Humbedooh | ? |
| 17:38.56 | nevcairiel | like the normal map |
| 17:44.38 | Adirelle | two dropdowns is fine, having to go through the continent menu each time you want to change the zone in the same continent is annoying |
| 17:45.15 | Repo | 10libsql: 03Humbedooh * r24 LibSQL-1.0.lua: Added an external ID holder for better preserving the structure of acquired Lua tables. |
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| 17:54.51 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-2: 03cremor * r29 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua: |
| 17:54.52 | Repo | - Hopefully fixed haste rating in enUS (drycoded, since I don't have an enUS client) |
| 18:04.45 | Repo | 10libsql: 03Humbedooh * r27 LibSQL-1.0.lua: Added support for both SQL sorting flavors (ORDER BY / SORT BY) |
| 18:04.46 | Repo | Optimizing some tools |
| 18:04.48 | Repo | Added BLOB and TABLE to the list of valid field types |
| 18:04.48 | Repo | Small fix to res:Fetch() to use the optional namespace declared in AS statements in Libsql:Acquire. |
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| 18:15.24 | Repo | 10glow-fo-sho: 03boneschaman * r80 / (5 files in 2 directories): GlowFoSho: |
| 18:15.25 | Repo | - Cata enchants |
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| 18:21.02 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-6-ge10fc8a / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 18:21.03 | Repo | e10fc8a: Fix scaling of the zone/continent dropdowns. |
| 18:21.04 | Repo | 6f4320e: Add Classic and Cataclysm instances/raids to the zone dropdown (no maps for BC instances *sad*) |
| 18:21.05 | Repo | 2484751: Improve performance in the FogClear module by caching texture references and disabling some Blizzard code that we overwrite anyway. |
| 18:23.29 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r300 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 18:23.30 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 18:24.14 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-7-g3dfa8e5 InstanceMaps.lua: [+1 commit] Directly pass the zone data table isntead of unpacking and select'ing over it, what was i thinking o.O |
| 18:28.07 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-8-g40f33e2 InstanceMaps.lua: [+1 commit] Remove the empty BC sections, they didnt get any maps =( |
| 18:29.14 | Repo | 10glow-fo-sho: 03boneschaman * r81 / (2 files in 2 directories): -bugfixes |
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| 18:33.15 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r773 / (9 files in 2 directories): Fix up some localization issues. |
| 18:35.40 | Ketho | @describe glow-fo-sho |
| 18:36.02 | Repo | Ketho: http://www.wowace.com/addons/glow-fo-sho/. GlowFoSho. Allows you to preview weapon glow in Dressing Room. |
| 18:41.29 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-9-ga52fb2c FogClear.lua: [+1 commit] Hide the overlay tiles when switching to a map without any, like the contintent selector. |
| 18:44.01 | Yoshimo | will we see an hudmap update for the new zone sizes? |
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| 19:07.37 | Repo | - Fix problem with items overlap the tooltip |
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| 19:13.20 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 1dc5dd7 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Player list is now working, still to come is the delete player form raid button and the tooltip for raid times. |
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| 20:12.00 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 07master * 2.0.5-22-g3e46388 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix a couple typo's, uncomment previous faction code, and add to filter_flags. |
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| 20:21.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0.5-27-g74f39d2 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 20:21.53 | Repo | 74f39d2: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/arl/mainline |
| 20:21.54 | Repo | 5f5b8dc: Fixed version string. Again. |
| 20:21.55 | Repo | 99de4a8: Fixed bug with exclusions. |
| 20:21.56 | Repo | f2e3b94: Upvalued some globals. |
| 20:22.11 | pompy | :O |
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| 20:36.19 | ThiefMaster | what's the better weapon enchant for ele shamans? 63sp or black magic? |
| 20:36.48 | sbu | "2 weeks" is the answer i think |
| 20:37.13 | ThiefMaster | well i have way enough mats anyway.. so why not use them ;) |
| 20:37.14 | harl | there seems to be a bug at the very end of "ghouls (h)ate my grains" |
| 20:38.11 | harl | all ghouls dead, quest not completed |
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| 20:47.53 | Amadeo | I'm interested to see a list of the changes in Cataclysm, as in, new zones, etc... I don't include the old world revamp as it's part of vanilla |
| 20:50.12 | krka | goblin start, worgen start, underwater place, abyss, hyjal |
| 20:50.13 | krka | i guess |
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| 20:50.51 | Amadeo | that's it? |
| 20:50.58 | Amadeo | has to be more |
| 20:51.40 | nevcairiel | vashjir are technically 3 zones, but its really one big one. Then there is Hyjal, Deepholme, Uldum and the Twilight Highlands |
| 20:51.57 | nevcairiel | And of course the two new start zones |
| 20:51.59 | Amadeo | so there's really not much to it |
| 20:52.25 | Amadeo | I mean, granted, the new revamp is awesome |
| 20:52.33 | Amadeo | but it's not really part of the expansion |
| 20:52.54 | nevcairiel | 7 brand new zones, a bunch of instances, 2 full blown raids, plus a small raid, what else do you want o.o |
| 20:52.57 | arkanes | theres as much content as there was in wotlk |
| 20:53.23 | arkanes | even if you don't count the old world revamp at all, which I think is silly - much of it is new and interesting and people will play it |
| 20:53.50 | Amadeo | How can you count the revamp? If you buy a $5 copy of WoW, you get it |
| 20:53.59 | arkanes | okay? |
| 20:54.11 | arkanes | I guess I don't understand your metrics |
| 20:54.20 | nevcairiel | So because they give everyone something awesome, its suddenly not worth anything? :D |
| 20:54.23 | Amadeo | Just included in the actual Cataclysm expansion |
| 20:54.27 | Amadeo | No, not saying that, lol |
| 20:54.38 | arkanes | if you mean the stuff you get for your however many dollars |
| 20:54.41 | nevcairiel | There is also 2 new races, which is a first |
| 20:54.51 | Amadeo | but when Blizzard describes the expansion, they include the zone revamp in its details |
| 20:55.03 | nevcairiel | yes, because it is part of cataclysm |
| 20:55.05 | arkanes | it's 2 new races, the 7 zones, the ability to level to 85 and therefore experience the new instances & raids and all the ones that follow |
| 20:55.22 | nevcairiel | but you can't really sell that with the expansion, because it would split the world between people that have it, and that have it not |
| 20:55.28 | nevcairiel | which would be even worse |
| 20:55.29 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 20:55.33 | arkanes | they could have done some sort of uber-phasing thing |
| 20:55.42 | arkanes | but this was a much better idea |
| 20:55.58 | Amadeo | honestly, I thought that's what Gnomeregan was going to be...I figured I'd quest, and eventually phase into a full city or something |
| 20:56.09 | arkanes | is there really a significant population of wow players that doesn't purchaes the expansions anyway? |
| 20:56.17 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 20:56.21 | arkanes | the gnome starting zone was pretty lackluster imo |
| 20:56.26 | Amadeo | yeah, it's horrible |
| 20:56.27 | arkanes | the troll one is much better |
| 20:56.30 | nevcairiel | gnomes have a starting zone? |
| 20:56.35 | Amadeo | kinda |
| 20:56.40 | arkanes | they have a new starting experience |
| 20:56.50 | arkanes | based around the re-taking of gnomergan |
| 20:57.24 | Amadeo | I'm happy about all the new flight paths |
| 20:57.41 | nevcairiel | way too many. Finding some specific flight point on the map is impossible now |
| 20:57.56 | Amadeo | they probably did it since they removed portals |
| 20:58.20 | nevcairiel | eh, how are those related. A portal didnt get me to goldshire |
| 20:58.29 | arkanes | I want a zoomable flight map |
| 20:58.53 | Amadeo | no, but you can easily set yourself up for a shorter flight by using a portal to a nearby city |
| 20:59.40 | nevcairiel | assuming i am on the same continent anyway, which is implied when using flight points, there were no portals, unless i went all the way back to dalaran first |
| 20:59.49 | nevcairiel | which probably takes longer then just flying =p |
| 21:00.02 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 21:00.26 | Amadeo | is the flight map modable? |
| 21:00.32 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:00.56 | Amadeo | maybe stretch it and zoom it |
| 21:01.03 | arkanes | ENHANCE |
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| 21:05.28 | Znuff | Hi. |
| 21:06.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7610 Plugins/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update. |
| 21:06.14 | Znuff | uh, actually, nvm, I fixed :P |
| 21:06.17 | Znuff | was going to ask a question, lol |
| 21:16.42 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-10-gf68c316 InstanceMaps.lua: [+1 commit] Cache the returns of GetMapZones(id), as the function seems to be really slow, and the available zones per continent are not going to change while playing. |
| 21:18.35 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: just because you dont think they will change doesnt mean they wont! |
| 21:20.19 | Znuff | scratches head |
| 21:20.35 | Znuff | I can't seem to make the LDB feed of FuBar_LocationFu available |
| 21:21.48 | Repo | 10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2 Localization.lua: [+1 commit] Locales updated. |
| 21:21.54 | Repo | 10adibags: 03Adirelle 04v1.2 * 6de9ee7 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2. |
| 21:23.28 | Znuff | How to debug the loading of an addon? I see it loading, I see it consuming memory, I am using FuBar2Broker, but I can't "display" the feed anywhere, no mather what I do |
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| 21:23.56 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.11-11-g6eccfd0 InstanceMaps.lua: [+1 commit] Be gone ; |
| 21:24.00 | Arrowmaster | Znuff: enable addon error messages |
| 21:24.07 | Znuff | They are enabled |
| 21:24.25 | nevcairiel | some addons have a hard depdency on fubar |
| 21:24.29 | nevcairiel | might need that fubar stub |
| 21:24.34 | Znuff | I have that too |
| 21:24.44 | Znuff | It doesn't say dependencies are missing, it's loaded |
| 21:24.58 | nevcairiel | then get an actual LDB addon :) |
| 21:25.17 | Znuff | Nothing that is as good as that one :-/ |
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| 21:25.56 | Znuff | Most other addons either supply more functionality than what I need or less |
| 21:26.12 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.5.1 Defaults.lua: [+1 commit] Divine Storm no longer uses Holy Power (ticket #120). |
| 21:26.14 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.5.1 * 82c1979 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.5.1 |
| 21:28.09 | Znuff | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/fubar_locationfu.png |
| 21:28.15 | Znuff | this means it's running, correct? |
| 21:29.23 | nevcairiel | oh, thats using FubarPlugin-3, i dont think Fubar2Broker supporst that |
| 21:29.41 | Znuff | Ooooh, wait a sec, it attaches itself to the world map |
| 21:29.45 | Znuff | minimap, I mean |
| 21:29.59 | nevcairiel | yeah thats FuBarPlugin-3.0's doing |
| 21:30.15 | nevcairiel | FuBar2Broker is only for 2.0 |
| 21:30.21 | nevcairiel | because addons for 3.0 are very rare |
| 21:30.57 | Znuff | I see |
| 21:34.38 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r106 ProfessionsVault.lua: fix another gui glitch - AceGUI sucks at frame strata |
| 21:36.04 | Stanzilla | Znuff: tried bazooka? |
| 21:36.15 | Znuff | nope |
| 21:36.18 | nevcairiel | nothing can solve this problem |
| 21:36.26 | nevcairiel | unless bazooka integrates stuff to run FBP-3.0 :P |
| 21:36.28 | nevcairiel | which i doubt |
| 21:36.38 | Znuff | I'm very fond of my chocolatebar |
| 21:37.09 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: i meant as a real ldb addon |
| 21:37.22 | Stanzilla | but I guess I missread stuff |
| 21:37.29 | nevcairiel | how does that replace locationfu |
| 21:37.38 | Znuff | he probably thought I was using Fubar |
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| 21:38.06 | Znuff | so, unless I find a way to convert it to a Fubar2 plugin... there's nothing I can do, right? |
| 21:38.27 | Znuff | it's interesting because if I install the *actual* fubar, I get the LDB feed to show up |
| 21:38.39 | Znuff | but not in FuBar, but in chocolatebar |
| 21:39.06 | Hirsute | I wish I could quit FuBar. *sigh* |
| 21:39.08 | nevcairiel | find some locationfu thats still for fubar2 |
| 21:39.20 | Arrowmaster | wont find a working one |
| 21:39.22 | Znuff | that's what I was thinking |
| 21:39.25 | Znuff | I could fix it :P |
| 21:39.33 | nevcairiel | You could also write a new LDB versioN! |
| 21:39.45 | Znuff | or I could try to fix it :> |
| 21:39.58 | Hirsute | If TitanPanel's screen readjustment ever works like FuBar's does, I'd be off FuBar immediately. |
| 21:40.00 | Znuff | don't know *that* much Lua |
| 21:40.12 | Znuff | man, I hate titan on so many levels |
| 21:40.17 | nevcairiel | thats just a library, other addons use it, like ninja panel |
| 21:40.18 | Znuff | each time I tried it I gave up |
| 21:40.33 | Znuff | and I really tried |
| 21:40.39 | Arrowmaster | and that library is still broken as fuck and needs rewritten |
| 21:40.52 | Znuff | last time I actually had it running for a full day before I wiped it |
| 21:40.53 | nevcairiel | arent you one of those that keep fixing it |
| 21:41.06 | Arrowmaster | all i do is comment out the broken stuff |
| 21:41.19 | Znuff | Arrowmaster, yeah, that's how I "fix" stuff too, lol |
| 21:41.21 | Hirsute | Znuff: Lately the *only* thing I've found that I don't like about TP is that the screen adjust doesn't adjust all my screen elements. |
| 21:41.39 | Znuff | ckknight does some awsome addons |
| 21:41.45 | Znuff | too bad he leaves then in the dust in a while :( |
| 21:41.57 | ckknight | real life gets busy. |
| 21:41.58 | Znuff | them* |
| 21:41.58 | nevcairiel | addons cant be awesome if they arent finished |
| 21:42.48 | nevcairiel | ckknight: psh, cheap excuse, back in the day you started new projects and left your old ones rotting :P |
| 21:42.49 | Hirsute | And given that I frequently turn significant portions of my addons to raid (including FB/TP), I'd have to maintain two screen layouts, which would mean switching between profiles for about 5 different addons, just to deal with the failure of TP to move all my screen elements. |
| 21:43.08 | ckknight | well, that's just your opinion, man |
| 21:43.41 | nevcairiel | even fubar will not move all screen elements, it just moves default UI, not addons |
| 21:44.21 | Znuff | ckknight, I feel you :-) |
| 21:44.27 | nevcairiel | hell, how would it know about all addons in existence to move them around :D |
| 21:44.49 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: they are hard coded in libjostle |
| 21:44.57 | nevcairiel | all of them? :) |
| 21:45.06 | Znuff | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.06 | Znuff | FuBar_LocationFu r131-stable Release3.0.3189,65111/6/2008 |
| 21:45.06 | Arrowmaster | last i looked it still tried to move gypsy unitframes |
| 21:45.06 | Znuff | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.06 | Znuff | FuBar_LocationFu-r79166.11 Release2.4.380,7499/29/2008 |
| 21:45.28 | Znuff | I'm guessing the huge "jump" is between fubar plugin 3 and 2 |
| 21:45.32 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:45.48 | nevcairiel | its not been updated for so long, the only thing it may still work with is xperl, because thats so damn old as well |
| 21:46.03 | Xinhuan | uh |
| 21:46.11 | Xinhuan | i still use fubar right this moment in 4.0.3a |
| 21:46.15 | Xinhuan | and it still works and moves everything |
| 21:46.20 | nevcairiel | You also use xperl |
| 21:46.22 | nevcairiel | case in point! |
| 21:46.22 | Xinhuan | both above and below |
| 21:46.27 | Xinhuan | yes, i still use xperl ;p |
| 21:46.38 | nevcairiel | Join our century already |
| 21:46.52 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: FuBar moves all of my addons. *shrug* |
| 21:46.52 | Xinhuan | i've found little reason to change it |
| 21:46.52 | nevcairiel | I was so wishing for xperl to die |
| 21:46.56 | Znuff | ewww, Xperl |
| 21:46.57 | nevcairiel | but no, that dude comes back and fixes it |
| 21:47.14 | Znuff | I like Shadowed's frames |
| 21:47.16 | Xinhuan | and why wouldn't he, if it earns curse points lol |
| 21:47.20 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:47.20 | Torhal | Someone in my guild actually told me I shoudl take over maintenance of Xperl |
| 21:47.32 | nevcairiel | i hope you laughed at him |
| 21:47.43 | Torhal | I told her I don't use it and don't plan to. |
| 21:47.45 | Znuff | I find Shadowed so much better than Xperl! |
| 21:48.00 | Torhal | Znuff: Have you tried TravelAgent? |
| 21:48.01 | Znuff | heck, anything is better than x-perl these days |
| 21:48.08 | Xinhuan | i'll switch only if it gets really broken |
| 21:48.25 | Znuff | I remember when I used xperl's raiding frames in Malygos first time |
| 21:48.30 | Znuff | man, the disconnects... the frame rate |
| 21:48.33 | Znuff | horrible! |
| 21:48.54 | Znuff | Torhal, don't think it's what I want |
| 21:49.06 | Hirsute | I'm looking to switch because there are FuBar plugins I like that are broken and not likely to get fixed, but for which there are LDB equivalents that work, but no LDB display that displays them as I want them. |
| 21:49.22 | nevcairiel | bazooka should be similar to fubar |
| 21:49.39 | Torhal | Znuff: It's basically LocationFu, but I wrote it from scratch for LDB. |
| 21:49.55 | Znuff | This is what I want: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/WoWScrnShot_112510_004619.jpg |
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| 21:50.14 | nevcairiel | what, your location? |
| 21:50.18 | Znuff | yes, that's it :) |
| 21:50.26 | nevcairiel | seems kinda pointless |
| 21:50.28 | Znuff | and coords |
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| 21:51.42 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: Does Bazooka adjust all screen elements? |
| 21:51.50 | nevcairiel | how would i know |
| 21:52.09 | nevcairiel | the library that does that is broken anyhow, it'll stop working sooner or later for fubar as well :) |
| 21:52.12 | Hirsute | You suggested it would be similar to FuBar, I assumed (poorly, it seems) that you were familiar with it. |
| 21:52.33 | nevcairiel | apparently bazooka embeds libjostle, so it might even do it |
| 21:52.47 | Hirsute | I'll have to look into it. |
| 21:56.34 | Znuff | would love to shoot everyone that thought adding MiniMap icons is a cool thing |
| 21:56.51 | Xinhuan | p.s, libjostle doesn't move xperl |
| 21:57.01 | Xinhuan | it only moves default UI |
| 21:57.24 | Znuff | Torhal, doesn't show coords even though they're enabled :-/ |
| 21:57.54 | Znuff | Ohh |
| 21:57.57 | Znuff | it's another datafeed |
| 21:58.02 | Znuff | why? :-/ |
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| 21:59.42 | sylvanaar_ipad | nevcairiel: Did you figure out your problem? |
| 21:59.50 | Torhal | Znuff: Not everyone wants coords, not everyone wants zone name. |
| 22:00.04 | Znuff | yeah, but why is it a separate data feed? :P |
| 22:00.10 | Torhal | And for those who want both, that allows them to place them wherever they wish |
| 22:00.19 | Znuff | I see |
| 22:00.39 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_ipad: yeah some weird option in my multimonitor taskbar really messed up scrolling |
| 22:01.04 | sylvanaar_ipad | Ah, that sucks |
| 22:01.37 | nevcairiel | was able to turn it off, though =) |
| 22:02.24 | Gagorian | Anyone got a level 80 rogue in handy? |
| 22:02.33 | arkanes | I do |
| 22:02.44 | Gagorian | Able to log on to give me a few values? |
| 22:03.02 | arkanes | yeah sure |
| 22:03.02 | Gagorian | Tooltip values for deadly poison, instant poison and wound poison plus current AP |
| 22:03.05 | arkanes | sec |
| 22:04.00 | arkanes | you want that with or without assass mastery? |
| 22:04.10 | arkanes | I wonder if it even changes the tooltip, I could check :P |
| 22:04.26 | nevcairiel | you have ass ass mastery? |
| 22:04.36 | arkanes | damn right |
| 22:04.37 | sylvanaar_ipad | That's funny |
| 22:04.46 | arkanes | jesus christ |
| 22:04.54 | arkanes | I'm logged in for 10 seconds and I get turkeyed |
| 22:05.06 | sylvanaar_ipad | Lol |
| 22:05.17 | sylvanaar_ipad | Best holiday ever |
| 22:05.47 | arkanes | tooltip went down when I switched to combat so it looks like the mastery does affect it |
| 22:06.00 | sylvanaar_ipad | Can you get rogues in bgs and have it count |
| 22:06.29 | Gagorian | arkanes: Well if AP changes it also changes.. but yeah preferrably without any poison talents |
| 22:06.32 | arkanes | 1368, 839-928, 501 6306 |
| 22:06.40 | Gagorian | So combat should be fine |
| 22:06.42 | arkanes | thats my combat numbers, so no talents/mastery |
| 22:06.53 | arkanes | DP, IP, WP |
| 22:07.02 | Gagorian | alright *crunching* |
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| 22:12.07 | Gagorian | arkanes: Those numbers make sense, unlike the ones I'm getting on my level 74 rogue.. Thanks |
| 22:12.24 | Gagorian | For some reason the scaling I'm using doesn't work properly at that level |
| 22:13.13 | arkanes | they added a level based scaling to almost everything a couple patches ago |
| 22:14.21 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.2-29-g0469b6b Modules/ShowHide.lua: [+4 commits] |
| 22:14.22 | Repo | 0469b6b: Comment out confusing code and bring back Titan support. |
| 22:14.23 | Repo | dda8563: Fuck it, who cares what Titan thinks. |
| 22:14.24 | Repo | fa682ea: Remove debug. |
| 22:14.25 | Repo | 3ab0ded: Another attempt at fixing compatibility with Titan. |
| 22:15.35 | sylvanaar_ipad | I think someone might fan update fubar |
| 22:15.47 | arkanes | fubar still works fine |
| 22:15.54 | sylvanaar_ipad | I know |
| 22:16.06 | sylvanaar_ipad | Well you can't remove bars |
| 22:16.08 | arkanes | I'm putting off switching until the very last moment I can |
| 22:16.15 | arkanes | well thats cause of Dewdrop, not fubar |
| 22:16.22 | sylvanaar_ipad | Is it |
| 22:16.27 | arkanes | maybe |
| 22:16.32 | arkanes | I was able to remove a bar |
| 22:16.33 | Gagorian | arkanes: I know, but the system I'm using doesn't seem to be working perfectly even if it's extracted directly from blizzard's .dbc files |
| 22:16.36 | sylvanaar_ipad | I thought it was rock config |
| 22:16.51 | Gagorian | arkanes: It's exact at level 80 for instance but not necessarily on low levels |
| 22:17.18 | arkanes | Gagorian: hmm |
| 22:19.30 | Gagorian | arkanes: It works pretty well for abilities, but not poisons.. I don't get it yet :) |
| 22:22.15 | spode | asdasd |
| 22:23.02 | Megalon | i am with spode on that one |
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| 22:26.59 | Repo | - Battleground integration into Atlas |
| 22:27.00 | Repo | - Tol Barad is in BabbleZone now |
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| 23:39.09 | Torhal | One has to wonder why EthanCentauri is even worried about Titan support, considering Titan supports LDB. |
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| 23:51.02 | harl | -n |
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