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00:46.52Repo10broker_compass: 03mitch0 * r14 / (3 files in 2 directories): Tagging as v1.2.0, configurable icon support
00:46.53Repoadd tooltip
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01:22.31AckisWorkParnic: 1750/1750 in borderlands my friend
01:23.43Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r38 / (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
01:23.44RepoAdd options to control recipe tooltips
01:23.45RepoAdd a pseudo-character that knows All Recipes
01:23.46RepoDB update to mark alts
01:23.47RepoAdd some workaround code to make AtlasLootTooltip more likely to display correctly
01:23.55ParnicAckis: grats my friend
01:24.23AckisOnly took about 15 hours of me afking for the last cheevs in borderlands heh
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01:31.37RepoDeath Knights have spaces in the name.. remove for use with RAID_CLASS_COLOR array
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02:03.11AxodiousMirrormn you around?
02:04.51Mirrormnkind of
02:04.53Mirrormnraiding atm
02:05.22Axodioustrying to make an aura for my warlock, if im in metamorphosis AND summon infernal is usable show the icon for summon infernal
02:07.21Stanzillagreat
02:07.31Stanzillaso I just ripped out the cable of my logitech g5
02:07.32Axodiousoh man my name is green on wowace :O
02:07.37Axodiousouch
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02:08.15bluspacecowouch
02:08.22Axodiousit may be related to the ticket i just added Mirrormn: http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/41-metamorphosis-is-a-stance/
02:08.26bluspacecowtime for some USB cord surgery then ?
02:08.31Stanzillatried to "fix" the disconnecting bug
02:08.46StanzillaI don't think you can fix that :P
02:08.54bluspacecowby pulling your mouse apart ?
02:09.22Stanzillai thought it was a loose contact
02:09.33Stanzillaso i kept juggling it up and down
02:09.40Stanzillaand then I had it in my hand
02:09.53Gnarfozso it was a loose contact!
02:10.05MirrormnAxodious can you do me a favor
02:10.06Stanzilla:p
02:10.09Axodioussure
02:10.16StanzillaGnarfoz: now tell me what mouse to buy
02:10.21Gnarfozg5 refresh
02:10.25Gnarfozwhich you can't buy anymore
02:10.36syerenWhy buy a G5 refresh when the G500 exists?
02:10.37syeren...
02:10.44Gnarfoz(which I only recently learned and now I dread the day that my g5 refresh might die)
02:10.48Mirrormnand do "/script print(GetShapeshiftForm())" while you have metamorphosis active
02:10.50Gnarfozsyeren: uhm. different mice?
02:10.53Mirrormnand tell me what it says
02:11.02Axodious2
02:11.08syerenMX518 goes to G5, G5 goes to G500 in the upgrade family.
02:11.14syerenG500 is far better than the G5.
02:11.34StanzillaGnarfoz: I had a g5 refresh :(
02:11.34Gnarfozfrom what I can see: it has shittily placed buttons.
02:11.46Gnarfozso: it's certainly not "better" than the g5 refresh
02:11.56Gnarfoznobody gives a rats ass about 4000 more DPI
02:12.22syerenIt's superior.
02:12.29syerenEnd of really.
02:12.37Gnarfozonly in some irrelevant technical way.
02:12.39syerenEveryone who has used both say so in regards to my friends.
02:12.45Gnarfozfuck your friends
02:12.46Stanzillathe g5 refresh's mouse wheel was shitty
02:13.00Gnarfozyes it was, but the buttons on that g500 monster look totally out of place
02:13.20syerenG500 has a revo wheel, Stanzilla.
02:13.26syerenDon't know if you ever had the pleasure of using one :p
02:13.26Stanzillait looks super gay with that silver cover
02:13.58Stanzillasyeren: the one you can unlock and scrolls forever?
02:14.02syerenYes.
02:14.05Gnarfozuseless feature of the day: sideways-moveable scrollwheels.
02:14.20syerenYes, free scrolling mousewheels are horribly useless.
02:14.28syerenWhy spend a second scrolling when you can spend 4?
02:14.28Gnarfozthose, too
02:16.25GnarfozI want it to not feel wobbly and loose when I click it and I want the individual "steps" when I scroll it to actually line up with the movement of the wheel
02:16.28Stanzillaangry Gnarfoz is angry
02:16.59syerenIt's strange how when I middle click on my G500 and G700 it doesn't wobble at all.
02:17.06Gnarfozangry? no. I just want another 5 g5 r2's just in case.
02:17.21syerenBut hey, I'm no an oaf :)
02:17.34StanzillaGnarfoz: http://www.amazon.de/Logitech-refresh-Laser-schnurgebunden-schwarz-blau/dp/B000NIJ438/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1289355134&sr=1-6
02:17.37Stanzilla2 gebraucht, go!
02:17.47Gnarfozklar, ich kauf gebrauchte mäuse
02:17.51syerenAs for the 'steps' of which it scrolls, imagine if you could configure how many 'steps' it does in Setpoint?!?!
02:18.03Gnarfozimagine that I don't want to fucking do that?
02:18.20syeren>Could have perfect mouse experience
02:18.27syeren>Too lazy to do so
02:18.29syeren>Insult instead
02:18.30syeren:)
02:18.39Gnarfoz":)" go fuck yourself
02:18.57Gnarfozmaybe recommend me a shitty Roccat or Razer while you're at it
02:19.13bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
02:19.28StanzillaI actually considered a Naga
02:19.29bluspacecowif you had sex with a female clone of yourself would you be fucking yourself ?
02:19.40syerenIt's weird how you say that, yet the Roccat Kone is considered by pretty much everyone to be the closest mouse to the G5 R2, and is generally recommended to replace it?
02:19.43Gnarfozbluspacecow: you would, and you'd also be lesbian
02:19.54bluspacecow:)
02:20.00Gnarfozsyeren: oh, it's only like 50% larger than the g5 r2!
02:20.05Gnarfozhave you held it? :p
02:20.23Gnarfozit's a fucking huge piece of equipment
02:20.24syerenHad a Roccat Kone v1 and v2.
02:20.25syerenIt's comfier.
02:20.26Gnarfoz(that's what she said)
02:20.28syerenThan the G5.
02:20.48syerenBut I hold it with a 'claw'.
02:21.02Gnarfozright, because us oafs, we have hands for that.
02:21.03Gnarfoz:p
02:21.38syerenErrr... people who hold mice in the claw fashion are generally quicker at using a mouse in reaction sensitive applications.
02:21.38Stanzillahow is the g700?
02:21.39syeren;p
02:21.41syerenNice.
02:22.14Gnarfozsyeren: most idiotic statement, yet
02:22.24Gnarfozprobably some cs kiddie ~
02:22.29syerenI have stupidly skinny fingers though, no idea how the side buttons would be if you have fat fingers.
02:22.29Stanzillawtf is this shit http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21iZu9WK0kL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
02:22.33Stanzillado people really buy that?
02:22.40syerenG9 / G9x
02:22.51Stanzillathat's so fugly
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02:23.06AeyanYeah
02:23.09syerenMost idiotic statement ever, yet fingers are quicker than hand movement...
02:23.10Gnarfozpro gamers have their index and middle fingers sewn together, Stanzilla
02:23.14syerenSo it's also scientic fact.
02:23.17AeyanMore comfortable than it looks though
02:23.21Gnarfozscientic! nice
02:23.34syerenGnarfoz, I can't feel my fingers so I can't type properly.
02:23.39syerenFeel free to keep going at the typos though.
02:23.41Gnarfozprobably from all that clawing :D
02:23.48syerenNo, from my chemotherapy.
02:24.04Gnarfozobviously affected your brain, too~
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02:24.27Gnarfoznot even sure how "clawing" your mouse would give you any advantage in any form, except that you're exerting less pressure on the mouse
02:24.31Stanzillayou guys could stop with the girl fight, too
02:24.31syerenNone of the ABVD regime do that, sorry.
02:25.19GnarfozStanzilla: no, pissing contest, and I'm very well hidrated!
02:25.29Gnarfoz(hydrated, probably)
02:26.07Axodioushydrogenated more like
02:26.27GnarfozI hope not :O
02:28.11harlso.. sometimes, i'm not allowed to teleport out of a dungeon because i was dead.. while not being dead at all.
02:28.34harlintriguing logic.
02:30.20bluspacecow@gnarfoz or you could be lightly fingering out
02:30.26bluspacecowIE apples magic mouse lolz
02:31.02Gnarfozthat has too few buttons for my gaming needs/liking
02:31.06Gnarfozcoughs
02:32.30ShefkiThat meme will never stop.
02:33.26Gnarfozat least it's based on the truth ;p
02:34.01ShefkiExcept that Apple mice have had multiple buttons for quite a while now.
02:34.28ShefkiSo it's a bit like saying that Toyota's suck because they rust out.
02:34.36ShefkiSure it was true in the 70's.
02:39.26Megalonand surely it is true now
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02:41.28Repo- fixed markers generating errors or just misbehaving when changing profiles (ticket #102)
02:43.19GnarfozShefki: IMHO, the meme actually was that Apple users can't right-click because of the lack of a right mouse button - which of course was -never- true :D
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03:07.28Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.5.2.2-10-g5fd0155 / (6 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
03:07.29Repo5fd0155: - Made the MUF chronometers' font less ugly (removed MONOCHROME)
03:07.30Repo74bd8ce: - Reduced Decursive's static memory footprint by 100Kb (static options table -> dynamic options table)
03:18.28Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r780 modules/Runes.lua:
03:18.29Repo- minor update to force a full redraw when entering/leaving an instance to help make sure the runes are in a good state
03:22.32HirsuteIt technically was true.  They couldn't right click for a very long time, at least not if they were using Apple mice.  They could bring up a context menu just like multi-button mouse users do when they right click, but they couldn't right click with only one button.
03:23.02HirsuteAnd it drove be absolutely bonkers.  I really, really hated having to command-click to get my context menu when I had to use a Mac.
03:23.22Hirsute*me, not be
03:23.54Parnicbeware the drive bee!
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05:49.38DiademHiya.. I'm trying to compare an item with an already existing one, but I'm having problems with getting the correct SlotID.
05:49.41orionshockKaelten, did u kill CC v3 finally?
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05:51.26DiademSo, I'm getting the item's type with: itemType = select(9, GetItemInfo(link))
05:51.38Diademwhich returns something like "INVTYPE_HAND"
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05:52.31orionshock&?
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05:52.44DiademThe problem is, GetInventorySlotInfo() wants something like "HandSlot"
05:53.14orionshock<3 localizations
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05:53.21durcynyou do realize that INVTYPE_HAND is a global string
05:53.29orionshock^^
05:53.31durcynFrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua:INVTYPE_HAND = "Hands";   your argument is invalid
05:53.44orionshockbout to say that it's blizzard's half ass methods
05:54.14DiademWell.. to perhaps ask this more abstractly.
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05:54.47DiademI have an itemLink of itemA, and I'd like to get the itemLink of the currently equipped item in the slot that itemA can go into
05:54.47Megalonhttp://www.wowwiki.com/ItemEquipLoc
05:54.51Megalonhere is a table
05:54.59orionshocklocal  itemType = select(9, GetItemInfo(link));  local ... = GetInventorySlotInfo( _G[itemType] )
05:55.01Arrowmasterdont link wowwiki
05:55.04orionshockDiadem, ^^
05:55.12Megalonwhat returned string can be used in which slotID
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05:55.30Parnicmegalon wowpedia party foul
05:55.56Megalonthey have the same content
05:55.57durcynshould have a bot that automatically does s/wowwiki/wowpedia , dammit!
05:55.58Megalonwho cares
05:56.02Arrowmasterwe care
05:56.09Arrowmasterdont link wowwiki
05:56.13orionshockwowwiki is website-non-grata
05:56.26Megalonbut I don't care :7
05:56.42durcyni'm kind of torn though, wowpedia is one extra character to type out, decidedly less optimal.
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05:56.46Xinhuanwho is "we"?
05:56.50Megalonthe fanbois
05:56.55Megalonand stupid fucktards
05:56.57Megalonin this channels
05:56.58Megalonprobably
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05:57.15Megalonhttp://www.wowpedia.org/ItemEquipLoc
05:57.17Megalonthere
05:57.17Xinhuanfor the record, i couldn't even find the reasons why they split into 2
05:57.24Megalonyour wowpedia link
05:57.34Megalonyou can fap to it arrow
05:57.34DiademOk.. that's getting closer... -G[itemType] in this case returns 'Hands', which is the localized version.. but that doesn't seem to get me closer to "HandSlot" or 10. either "
05:57.37Parnicwikia admins were being jerks :)
05:57.39Xinhuanif such infomation can't be found easily, i don't see why i should support one site or the other
05:57.44durcynXinhuan: wikia woiuldn't let them do what they wanted with the skinning, basically
05:57.45Arrowmasterthere is a simple reason to not link wowwiki, the admins left and the old level of vandalism it used to get is now too much for the one or two people left to handle, it is getting vandalised faster than its getting cleaned up
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05:57.56durcynanyway, wowwiki's now in bitrot-land
05:57.56Xinhuanthat's awfully vague
05:58.14Xinhuanand skinning can't be the only reason
05:58.28Xinhuanand there's no reason why these reasons can't be published publicly
05:58.30ArrowmasterXinhuan: wikia changed TOU to say that they couldnt make any modifications to the skins and they had to use the skin wikia said to use
05:58.49durcynXinhuan: if you have logs from #wowuidev, it was (re)hashed in there quite a bit
05:59.01ArrowmasterXinhuan: the stuff was published, its just lost in a giant fucking forum page
05:59.14orionshockXinhuan, if u can stand the wiki forum method:  http://www.wowpedia.org/Forum:Welcome_to_the_new_Wowpedia!
05:59.16Parnichttp://jbot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ ;)
05:59.18orionshockfirst 2 "posts"
06:00.08Xinhuanby published, i actually mean a wowwiki/wowpedia official article on it
06:00.12Xinhuannot a bunch of user comments
06:00.32Arrowmasteryeah you wont likely find that
06:00.40Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r121 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): Hopefully fix Equipable module.
06:01.21Xinhuanotherwise, on the surface, the split just seems childish
06:01.41Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.7-beta-12-gd2a3487 DungeonSpeedRunner.toc: [+1 commit] toc bump
06:01.52Repo10syllabus: 03Torhal 07master * aaa6cf5 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
06:01.53Repoaaa6cf5: Use the string's format() method instead of string.format(string-instance, etc)
06:01.54Repo2e14bcc: Minor syntax adjustments.
06:01.55Repo02cb780: Herbalism is Spell ID 9134 - nuke the manual localization (and re-tab the locale template).
06:01.55Repo149e217: Re-formatted MY_TITLE for easier readability.
06:01.57durcynit's a video game wiki run by nerds, what do you want, the magna carta? =P
06:02.14Xinhuanand so whats the issue with a skin?
06:02.17doom0rno, it had horrible language
06:03.19orionshockXinhuan, more adds, more non-wiki links to promote cross-wiki traffic and a horrible skin to boot that sucked the life out of navigation
06:03.20ArrowmasterXinhuan: they made it fixed width so every page with any kinda table on it couldnt be read
06:03.52Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F&t=20101029043842
06:04.18Arrowmasterthats the forum 'page' (i hate using wiki's as forums) where it started
06:05.16durcynugh, that fixed width nonsense does suck
06:05.35Arrowmasterand the TOU change of not being able to edit the skin sucked too
06:05.37durcynand bloody outbound link advertisements, i hate them more than i did ten minutes ago
06:05.55Arrowmasterremember all those nice mouseover tooltips wowwiki used to have for item links?
06:05.57ArrowmasterGONE
06:06.19Arrowmaster(i think)
06:06.51TorhalWikia also made it so that every other wiki page on their servers was given priority, because people going to WoWWiki really really want to be able to navigate to HelloKittyWorldWiki without any hassle.
06:07.31doom0rprobably more revenue there
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06:11.45Repo10triage: 03baps * r20 Dialog.lua:
06:11.46RepoFill edit box with current assignment when editing assignments
06:11.47RepoDisable much of the excessively verbose debugging for code that works as expected
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07:13.49MegalonFisker
07:13.50Megalonhttp://i.imgur.com/LgUEg.gif
07:14.35Fiskerhey Megalon
07:15.13Fiskerwhy didn't they put hitler in it?
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07:26.51Megalonperhaps he is Fisker
07:27.08RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/reaction/. ReAction. flickerstreak (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
07:27.13RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libshowgrid-1-0/. LibShowGrid-1.0. flickerstreak (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
07:29.26orionshockTorhal, ... LibShowGrid ? really
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07:58.45mitch0my fav is still LibLordFarlander
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08:57.11doom0rblizzard can't decide if i've killed bloodlord or not today
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09:00.33nev-mobileMorning
09:01.13Adirelle|workmorning
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09:05.05nev-mobileAnyone know if its possible to instruct windows to remap the audio channels? Like i want all output to left and right inverted, because its using the same speakers as my tv, but on the pc i'm sitting with the back to it
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09:06.13nev-mobileOr specifically, in wow. :P
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09:09.08nev-mobileI'm using a digital link to my receiver, so i cant just change the cables around. :(
09:14.46doom0ri've seen various drivers allow options, realtek seems to have cut them for mine
09:14.57doom0rs/drivers/control panels/
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09:31.06Slaymanmorning
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09:44.51bluspacecow*fondles fisker*
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09:55.57Megalonbluspacecow, stop corrupting yourself
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09:56.58Slaymanso one can pay to change his main to gobbo or alliance dog on release, that's sad
09:57.38nev-mobileYou wont get the first 85 achievement for them though, thats only for newly leveled ones
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09:58.10SlaymanI didn't read that on the fucky german transcript
09:58.23bluspacecowneither of which can be a pally
09:58.26bluspacecowwhich is even sader
09:58.42Slaymanyou can be TAURENpala, how sexy is that?
09:59.26SlaymanI can then get all 10 classes while stayin the hell away from bloodelves, being bloodelf makes you more likely to be transgender
09:59.58sylvanaar_ipadtoday is another fedex morning =( =)
10:00.08Megalonyou get your third ipad?
10:00.18Megalonthat's some tight multitasking you will have there
10:00.19sylvanaar_ipadlol one iOS enough
10:00.31sylvanaar_ipadlol
10:00.38sylvanaar_ipadautocorrect
10:00.44sylvanaar_ipad1 is enough
10:00.56Megalonis corrects is to iOS
10:01.00Megalonhow more fanboi can you get
10:01.04Megalonderp
10:01.10sylvanaar_ipadi want a windows phone
10:01.18Megalon:(
10:01.44sylvanaar_ipadbut i cant upgrade - it will cost me $500
10:01.51Megalonnice
10:01.51Slaymangoogle raising salary, me like google, me not working there *sadface* *sadpanda*
10:02.18sylvanaar_ipadyou work there?
10:02.23Megalonthey should just give me $1 billion a year
10:02.29Megalonthat will raise happiness all over the world
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10:03.08sylvanaar_ipadwhat do you do for them
10:03.09bluspacecowthere some story on tuaw.com about someone using like 6 as a really expenisve photo array thingy
10:03.23bluspacecowie as a backdrop for photograps ie the lighting method
10:03.37sylvanaar_ipadipads?
10:03.45bluspacecowyeah ipads
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10:04.16sylvanaar_ipadi love my ipad - i haven't used my laptop since i got it
10:05.15sylvanaar_ipadthough i am running 4.2
10:05.52sylvanaar_ipad3.2 not so much
10:06.31sylvanaar_ipadsingletasking sucked
10:08.52Elkanoapple multitasking -> by another one
10:08.58Elkanos/by/buy/
10:09.18sylvanaar_ipadAnother what?
10:09.37Elkanoeg 2nd ipad
10:09.39sylvanaar_ipadI have 4.2 like i said
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10:10.37sylvanaar_ipadI can go do other things while you troll my pad
10:11.51sylvanaar_ipadFor example I'm also watching family guy on hili
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10:12.23sylvanaar_ipadS/huli/hulu/
10:12.44sylvanaar_ipadCourse autocorrect is your enemy
10:13.53sylvanaar_ipadLet's ask for another opinion
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10:14.59sylvanaar_ipadWhat do you think sylvanaar_iphone ?
10:15.12Megalonhe has an iphone
10:15.16Megalonhe is not used to thinking :)
10:15.22doom0r^
10:15.27sylvanaar_iphoneI think I love you sylvanaar_ipad
10:15.47sylvanaar_ipadOk bye
10:16.10sylvanaar_ipadLike I said. I want a windows phone
10:16.18sylvanaar_ipadHave you played with one
10:16.46sylvanaar_ipadF'in nice
10:19.20sylvanaar_ipadLayers
10:19.24sylvanaar_ipadLol
10:19.30sylvanaar_ipadLaters
10:22.24Megalonhf :p
10:32.36Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-beta-4-11-gec30e54 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
10:32.37Repoec30e54: Have the set filter update more often, hopefully catching valid links.
10:32.38Repod63ec0e: Only use tekDebug in debug and alpha packages.
10:32.39Repo84f023d: New items: also delay the first update after zoning.
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10:36.54Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan 04v3.4.5 * r323 : Tag release v3.4.5.
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10:51.28Repo10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r62 main.lua:
10:51.29Repo* Disabled the flashing of the now-inspecting light, as it was apparently
10:51.30Repocausing taint issues. I'll work on a proper fix for it when I get a bit
10:51.31Repoof time.
10:52.10Repo10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.0.1 * r63 : Tagging as 4.0.1. Now will less taint.
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10:57.26Repo10easyserum: 03Xinhuan 07master * v1.06-1-g10f7ecd EasySerum.toc: [+1 commit] Update Interface number to 40000. There are no code changes.
10:58.07Repo10easyserum: 03Xinhuan 04v1.07 * be66abc /: [new tag] Tag release v1.07
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11:32.54Repo10fu-bar_routes-fu: 03Xinhuan * r42 FuBar_RoutesFu.toc:
11:32.55RepoUpdate Interface to 40000. Apparently, this addon still works with no changes. Assuming anyone still uses FuBar, Tablet and etc that is.
11:33.30NM|Xinhuanconsidering routes underwent major changes, i'm surprised teh damn thing still works flawlessly
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12:48.38mitch0erm, do I have to create a git repo on wowace to get access to other ppl's git repos with my existing ssh key?
12:48.48nev-mobileNo
12:49.03mitch0sell, hg@repos works, git@repos doesn't like my key
12:49.07mitch0s/sell/well/
12:49.27nev-mobileBut you cannot use the secure checkout unless you are an author of that project
12:50.19mitch0uhm
12:51.52mitch0ah, wait
12:52.03mitch0I went with the wrong port
12:52.16nev-mobileNo port, its over ssh. :p
12:52.17mitch0how do I specify ssh port in git clone url?
12:52.24mitch0yes port... it's tunnelled
12:52.36sbunev-mobile: frostmourne!?!?!!? :p
12:52.47nev-mobileWhat?
12:52.54mitch0my hg url looks like this: ssh://hg@repos.wowace.com:2022/wow/broker_compass/mainline
12:53.05mitch0and repos.wowace.com is localhost :)
12:53.09sbufrostmourne letter opener was available mon -> tue night at 3:00
12:53.27nev-mobileYes, and sold out very soon
12:53.31mitch0but I dunno how to tell git to ssh over a non standard port
12:53.44nev-mobileSoon after*
12:53.53sbunev-mobile: yes? no idea, we talked about it on monday - and it was sold out
12:53.57sbubut that night it was available again ;)
12:54.16mitch0ah, Port in ssh.config might help
12:54.21nev-mobileI dunno, is it avail now? Bnet page is blocked from work
12:54.32sbunope
12:54.38sbutry at night :/
12:54.51Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-beta-4-16-g5c571a5 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
12:54.52Repo5c571a5: Check item link validity in container frame.
12:54.53nev-mobileIm not usually up at 3am
12:54.54Repo6c58070: Strip unique id and link level from internal item strings.
12:54.55Repo00cd203: Report invalid item links in alpha packages (if you have tekDebug installed).
12:54.56Repoc5cc60a: New items: also ignore brand new junk items.
12:57.26mitch0Cannot find git repository wow/libbackdrop-1.0/mainline
12:57.41mitch0could this be caused by the permission thingy?
12:58.08nev-mobileNop, you fucked up
12:58.29mitch0hm
12:58.40mitch0I copy-wasted the url from the wowace repository tab
12:58.55mitch0with the minor change of git.wowac.com to repos.wowace.com
12:59.45nev-mobileFunny, because it says libbackdrop-1-0 here
12:59.59mitch0must be the neutrino storm
13:00.15mitch0walks away whistling innocently
13:00.22mitch0it workses
13:01.36mitch0kagaro: you around?
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13:23.24Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r282 / (8 files in 2 directories): *3.02.66 (10-NOV-2010)*
13:23.25Repo* fixed - auction scanning
13:23.26Repo* removed - library libbabble-zone
13:27.55Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.66 * r283 : *3.02.66 (10-NOV-2010)*
13:27.55Repo* fixed - auction scanning
13:27.57Repo* removed - library libbabble-zone
13:30.50Repo10adibags: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.2-beta-4-19-gd0ed9bf / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
13:30.51Repod0ed9bf: Fixed virtual stack option ordering.
13:30.52Repo652fa31: Fixed the tooltip info module with regard to third-party tooltip modifiers.
13:30.53Repo9899c3d: Virtual stacks: added a reference to the stack button to the visible slot item button.
13:40.29mitch0gonna hurt kagaro next time I see him
13:40.36mitch0or let fisker do the hurting
13:40.39jnwhitehwhat did he do this time? =)
13:41.04mitch0http://ace.pastey.net/142689
13:41.51mitch0^ what's the bloody point? just to confuse users? (it's in libbackdrop)
13:42.43Megalonthere clearly needs to be a 10th anchor point
13:42.49Megalonit shall be called: OVERTHETOP
13:44.02mitch0also, isn't there an isNan function in lua?
13:44.11jnwhitehno
13:44.23mitch0well, then that's not his fault :P
13:44.24quiescensmoo
13:46.44Megalonthen it probably is Fisker's fault mitch0
13:47.26mitch0jnwhitehÃ: the .staticIcon thing works nicely btw ;)
13:47.32jnwhitehk
13:47.35jnwhitehdid I commit that?
13:47.37jnwhitehand push it?
13:47.40jnwhitehI have no memory of this :P
13:47.43mitch0yes
13:47.48Fiskernothing is ever my faul Megalon
13:47.50mitch0well, at least I got it from cf
13:47.57Fiskerwho's jnwhitehà btw?
13:48.11jnwhitehmy eviltwinÁ
13:48.15mitch0fisker: is too. next time you see kagaro hurt him badly for http://ace.pastey.net/142689
13:48.18jnwhitehdamn, wrong accent
13:48.44mitch0my client doesn't like utf-8 that much
13:49.36Megalondamn you utf-h8er
13:50.46mitch0me no hates utf-8
13:50.55mitch0my irc client from the 70s does
13:51.17Megalonl2update? :7
13:52.15mitch0I'm fine with it ;)
13:53.11Megalonfear that scripts don't work anymore? :P
13:53.46mitch0have no scripts ;)
13:55.14Megalonthen i hope it is at least full of flowers
13:55.17Megalonyour 70s client!
13:55.56mitch0is too
13:56.11mitch0hrmp, opera's irc client didn't like the channel listing from freenode :)
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13:58.09mitchnullbut here I am ;) utf-8 éűáúőp!
13:58.46Megalonmeantchnull
13:59.16MegalonFisker
13:59.22Megalonhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1009751153 -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=434#8693
13:59.40Megalonthe bnetards are trying to invited teamliquid
13:59.44Megaloncall your minions back
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15:00.40AckisArrowmaster: Borderlands: 80 achievements out of 80 won (1750 GS)
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15:19.15SlaymanTroll Druid epic flight form is spelled with AWESOME!
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15:19.33nevcairiellooks stupid imho
15:19.40nevcairielperfect for trolls
15:19.58Slaymanin your language stupid is synonimous with awesome? interesting!
15:19.59Megalontauren also got a new one nev
15:19.59Megalonhttp://www.elmundodedania.com/vacapintada3.jpg
15:20.16SlaymanMegalon: you gain the internets+1
15:20.30nevcairielall the troll druid forms look silly
15:20.33MegalonI allready own the internet
15:20.38nevcairiellike the trolls are constantly on lsd, which they probably are
15:20.39Megalonbecause i is might tuaren
15:20.51Megalontrolls suck
15:21.00Megalonthey live with it
15:21.02Megalonin their ghettos
15:21.05Slaymanthat's why trolls are chilling, they basically don#t give a shit about you, or anybody for that matter
15:21.17Slaymanmakes trolls bad tanks btw, they don't care who has aggro
15:21.45nevcairielmakes them bad anything
15:22.05SlaymanI almost uttered a racist comment about jews ...
15:22.23Megalonnaw, trolls aren't like jews
15:22.25Slaymanbad anything, but a hell of a lot of fun
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15:22.30Megalonjews are useful in some circumstances
15:22.32Megalondurrrrr
15:24.09Adirelle|workthis conversation stopped to early to verify Godwin's law
15:25.46Megalondamn
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15:34.08pompy" Realm First achievements for leveling any class to 85 will be available  in Cataclysm. However there will be no Realm First achievements  associated with leveling characters of a specific race."
15:34.55thelibrarianyeah, activision ceo needs a new yacht
15:42.09Fiskerthat sucks pompy
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15:53.08Axodiousanyone  use editpad pro?
15:57.26arkanes"Insane in the Membrane no longer requires the Shen'dralar reputation."
15:57.45arkanesman all those people who've been paying 500g a pop for black diamonds are *pissed*
15:58.09StanzillaI'm not :P
15:58.11Megalon"With patch 4.2.0 this achievement will be given to everyone on login"
15:58.14StanzillaI just feel a bit pwnd
15:58.18Stanzillabut I would have done it anyway
15:58.44MegalonI guess shen'dralar is being removed as a reputation? :o
15:59.16arkanesMegalon: that was why people were paying big money to make librams, because you wouldn't be able to do the rep post-cata
15:59.57Megalonah :>
16:00.08AckisI'm not exactly happy about the shen'dralar reputation change :(
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16:01.22nevcairielI'm still not convinced that the change is real
16:01.39nevcairielIts still impossible to complete it after cata, isnt it?
16:01.59nevcairielWouldnt make sense to remove one faction just to still make it a feat of strength
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16:02.36arkanesI don't see why it would be impossible
16:02.39Shefkijnwhiteh: ping
16:02.50jnwhitehpong
16:02.59arkanesbloodsail rep still exists on the beta
16:03.06arkanesnot sure about ravenholdt
16:03.59Ackisravenholdt rep sucks, I should spend a day or two and finish it off
16:04.10Ackisget my insane title as well
16:04.50selckinor you could code
16:05.03arkanesthe requirements for guild achives seem crazy
16:05.15arkanesmake 25,000 flasks?
16:05.20quiescenssolution
16:05.32quiescensget the whole server into one big guild
16:05.33quiescensnodnod
16:05.36arkanesthats a years worth of flasks
16:05.44arkanesfor an entire guild
16:05.57steevshouldn't take too long
16:05.59quiescenswhat do you get for it?
16:06.04steevand why should achievements be easy?
16:06.07nevcairielthose collection achievs are not supposed to be done in a week
16:06.07Nexiuzmore then a year, 10 man guild here :)
16:06.10arkanesrecipie for the cauldron of battles
16:06.21quiescenssuppose 25 people, that's what
16:06.37arkanesit just seems silly that your reward for making at least a years worth of flasks is something that makes you need to make fewer flasks
16:06.52steev...
16:06.56steevre-read what you wrote
16:06.58nevcairieldoesnt that make perfect sense
16:07.06quiescenshow many hours do people usually raid in a week or so
16:07.14nevcairielyou make a whole lot of flasks, and suddenly you learn how to do it more efficiently
16:07.19arkanesno, because by the time you've gone through all the flasks you make the next expansion will be out
16:07.19quiescens10ish?
16:07.32nevcairielnah, expansions take about 2 years, not one year
16:07.37steevsell them
16:07.41arkanesnevcairiel: I was being extremely conservative
16:07.54steevsome people will do it, others won't
16:08.00nevcairielselling too, have a bunch of active alchemists, and the time halves
16:08.00Megalonyou still need flasks to make the cauldron
16:08.03Megalonso perfectly fine :P
16:08.03steevjust like some people work on achievements, others don't
16:08.10arkanesif you use them in a year, it's 19 flasks per raider per week
16:08.14thelibrarianthe cauldrons seemed... odd to me. they give flask buffs to 7 or 17?
16:08.24thelibrarianso either you waste a lot or 3 people are screwed
16:08.26arkanesso thats assuming you maintain an extremely aggressive raid schedule for an entire year, which is unlikely
16:08.27steevthelibrarian: no
16:08.33steevthe cauldron lasts 5 minutes
16:08.36steevit has 7 charges
16:08.48nevcairielso 7 people get a flask
16:08.50steevi.e. you can use it 7 times (you the caster)
16:08.59arkanes1 charge == 1 placed cauldron
16:09.03thelibrarianis it 7 summons or does the cauldron have 7 clicks?
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16:09.08steev7 summons
16:09.11nevcairielthats a weird number for charges
16:09.28steevstabs nevcairiel
16:09.32Megalonthe numbers are pretty weird yea
16:09.40Megaloneven 7+17, still not 25 :7
16:09.53thelibrariani'm not so sure about that. the cauldron item doesn't have 7 charges like most consumable items. the on-use spell itself says 7
16:10.16arkaneswell if so thats fairly nutty
16:10.32arkanesI guess you have to have some members to keep using your leftover flasks
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16:11.09steev25000 of any flasks?
16:11.13steevor level 85 flasks
16:11.24arkanesdoesn't specify
16:11.26arkanesit's probably any flask
16:11.37arkanesbut at 85 it won't be any easier to get northrend mats
16:11.48steevit is hard to get them now?
16:11.54steevmy ghoul can solo level 83 elites
16:11.59arkanesno
16:12.11nevcairielyou need to kill to get herbs?
16:12.12arkanesbut they won't be any more accessible than level 85 flasks
16:12.30arkanesjust like its not any cheaper or easier to make level 70 flasks instead of level 80 ones right now
16:12.42arkanes25k is still an absurd number
16:13.03arkanesif you use 10 flasks per member, per week, which is still a really aggressive schedule, thats 2 years supply
16:13.15jnwhitehand if, like most alchemists, you make them and sell them to other guilds
16:13.23jnwhitehthat makes it a bit more achievable, but still difficult.
16:13.43arkanesthe only reason to be making them aggressively is if you want the cauldron
16:13.57arkanesand your primary customers will also be wanting the cauldron
16:14.24nevcairielpeople will stay buy them on the AH
16:14.34nevcairiels/stay/still/
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16:14.41arkanes25,000 of them?
16:14.44arkanesfrom 1 person?
16:15.04arkanesI know its guild wide, but it's still a single source
16:15.10nevcairielnah, but it ends up being quite some flasks over a year
16:18.26nevcairielThey might as well bump them to new cauldrons for the next expansion, its an investment into the future ;)
16:19.39Baps10 flasks a week isn't that agressive, that doesn't even cover 4hr a night, 3 nights a week
16:19.58nevcairielits 19 a week, then your done after a year
16:20.02nevcairielassuming no other flask usage
16:20.11arkanesand nobody maintains that kind of raid schedule for an entire year
16:20.12Bapsand most of the time, you don't get full value out of a flask
16:20.44Bapsgenerally lose 5+ min when you have to reflask before a pull
16:20.50arkanesthat'd basically be assuming that blizzard releases progression content exactly as fast as you consume it
16:21.13nevcairielYou could just suck
16:21.15nevcairielthen its easier
16:21.16nevcairiel:P
16:21.30arkanes*and* that you think you need to flask for trash and all the other stuff that goes in a raid that's not killing bosses
16:21.38arkaneseven 10 is moderately aggressive
16:22.00arkanesand! The *really* hardcore people, the kind of people who'd use 19 flasks in a week, don't even use flasks for progression stuff
16:22.04arkanesthey'll use elixers instead
16:22.18nevcairielif thats still true, the flasks are kinda nice in cata
16:22.33arkanesI haven't looked at the options
16:22.34Bapswell, ICC as an example, flasks go up after the first bit of trash, when you pull Marrogar.. and are up the whole rest of the night
16:23.03BapsUlduar, they used to go up when pulling whichever boss you did after FL
16:23.29Bapseven Naxx was only a few pulls before the first boss in 3 of the 4 wings
16:23.30thelibrarianand don't forget alchemists use half as many flasks (slightly less than half with rebuffing etc)
16:23.38arkanesindeed
16:24.13arkanesBaps: right, but when your first flask falls while you're killing blood wing trash, you don't re-up until the boss
16:24.43Bapsso, 4 pulls.
16:25.05arkaneswell, it's silly, because icc is hardly progression anymore
16:25.09thelibrarianarkanes: or, if you'd a bad like me, after the boss, and then think. "Oh. Whoops."
16:25.20arkanesnobody is using more than 3 flasks in ICC
16:25.41Bapswell, when you're clearing 11/12 in 2 hours.. no, you're not
16:26.07Bapsbut most guilds aren't the top 1%
16:26.28thelibrarian99% of them in fact aren't
16:26.31arkanes3 flasks is 3 hours
16:26.49arkanesif you're raiding ICC today, you're going to have what you went in there to do done in 3 hours
16:26.58arkaneswhether its 11/12 or not
16:27.10Bapslast I looked, there were only about 200 guilds in the US that have killed HLK25.
16:27.23arkanesI don't see what that has to do with anything
16:27.23Bapssome guilds are probably still working on him
16:27.39Bapsand since the attempts are gone, they could be there all week
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16:27.45arkanesif you are working on hlk, you won't waste flasks on stuff up until him
16:27.47Bapsmy point is there's all kinds of guilds
16:27.59arkanesokay
16:28.13arkanesyou're right, it's possible that there is a guild out there that is doing 38 hours a week of LK attempts
16:28.27arkanesseems unlikely
16:29.29nevcairielanyway, the point stands, you're not supposed to get the collection achievements easily. Wether you actively work towards them, or not, it'll take a while
16:30.01nevcairielwho knows, maybe they lower them some, they did it with some in todays patch
16:30.20thelibrarianaha, the level 19 guild perk: Happy Hour: Increases the number of flasks gained from using a flask cauldron by 50%.
16:30.33nevcairielthat makes sense
16:30.38nevcairielthats 10/25 then
16:30.43thelibrarianyeah
16:30.58Bapswonder if those flasks count toward the achievement
16:30.59arkanesit just seems ridiculous that the amount of flasks you would reasonably use to get the achieve could quite reasonably last you the entire length of the expansion
16:31.09arkanesBaps: they don't actually make flasks
16:31.17arkanesthey apply a flask buff
16:31.28Bapswhich doesn't materially change the question
16:31.43arkanes....
16:31.56Bapsit could still count toward the achivement if they wanted it to
16:31.57arkanesif they don't create flasks, then they probably don't count toward an achieve that counts flasks you make, right?
16:32.03arkanesyes Baps
16:32.05arkanesanything is possible
16:32.14thelibrarianat zombo.com
16:32.21arkanesalso they might decide to count your critter kills towards it
16:32.34nevcairiel4 flasks go into the small cauldron still, so you won't stop making them once you unlock the first
16:32.53arkanesthe first is 10k flasks, I think
16:32.59nevcairielit is
16:33.19arkanesI was actually pretending it didn't exist, because your rate of consumption will obviously go way down once you have access to it
16:33.38nevcairielyou want the big one, work for it
16:33.47arkanesyou're not getting my point
16:33.51nevcairielwould be silly if you just go it after 2 month of normal raiding without doing anything for it
16:33.56nevcairielgot it*
16:33.57arkanesnot really
16:34.10arkanesit's silly to make a reward when the work to gain it is the exact benefit that the reward gives you
16:34.20arkanesie, enough flasks to last the entire expansion
16:35.00nevcairielI think its right this way. You shouldn't get it just from day-to-day operation, you should do something to get it, like selling a load of flasks
16:36.01nevcairielachievements that are just coming eventually over time are not really achievements, especially when the time is short
16:36.13nevcairielcould just make it part of a guild level then
16:37.11nevcairielthere is an achievement to craft 1500 raid-level epics
16:37.19nevcairielyou think thats really happening for most guilds?
16:37.28nevcairielall the profession things are really hard
16:37.33arkanesthey're not hard
16:37.37arkanesthey're resource intensive
16:37.44arkanesyou may as well buy them with gold
16:38.06nevcairielgetting gold costs time, a lot of time invested is "hard" in my book
16:38.14arkanesheh
16:38.19nevcairielyou can solve anything in WoW with enough time
16:38.23MihauAny one speak Russian in here?  <.<  >.>
16:38.32arkanesyou can be the one to argue that with the elitist raider folks ;)
16:39.00nevcairielisnt their goal to defeat stuff faster
16:39.27nevcairielsure, some people need more time then they have before the next expansion hits to defeat H LK
16:39.34nevcairielbut one day, they maybe would manage
16:40.57nevcairielhm
16:41.13arkanesthe achieves seem to be gone from wowhead
16:41.19arkanesso this whole discussion may have been moot :P
16:41.26nevcairielreading Wowhead, it seems a bit weird though .. the 10k gives you the recipe, apparently the 25k gives you the spell to summon one o.O
16:41.29nevcairielcata.wowhead.com
16:41.43thelibrarianhttp://cata.wowhead.com/achievement=5024
16:41.43arkanesoh I had the wrong filter
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16:41.57arkaneswas just looking at general
16:43.06nevcairieli'm not in a guild on beta to check anything =/
16:43.19nevcairielthe author guild kinda stayed dead after the last wipe
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16:43.46arkaneswowhead is showing the cauldron of battle as being the reward from both achieves
16:43.54nevcairielthe first says recipe
16:43.56nevcairielthe second doesnt
16:44.05arkanesyeah but its the small cauldron in both cases
16:44.10arkanesso clearly some issue there
16:47.31nevcairieldumping GetAchievementInfo(5024) on beta shows the reward string is being "Recipe: Big Cauldron of Battle"
16:47.46nevcairielwowhead must be broken
16:48.57thelibrarianprobably, their database isn't quite fully cata ready yet. some of the spell scaling stuff is still wrong
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16:49.58Megalonah, the cauldrons are for the old guildperks
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16:50.31Megalonwhich was +50% flasks, so they would be 10/25 flasks charges
16:50.44Megalonthat's why they have 7/17 charges
16:50.52nevcairiellvl 19 bonus is +50% now
16:51.28Megalonoh then it fits again :o
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17:03.03RepoI don't know if this will fix anything or not, but we'll see.
17:03.36Takikasomeone can tell my why use wowace.com https without a valid cert?
17:03.40Repo10jebusminimapcoords: 03jebus905 044.0.1c * r17 : Changed Localization application name.
17:03.41RepoI don't know if this will fix anything or not, but we'll see.
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17:15.22FiskerMegalon
17:15.37MegalonFisker
17:15.44Fiskercan i trust a Megalon ?
17:16.28Megalonis that a Fisker question?
17:16.50Fiskeris it?
17:17.06AxodiousMegalon spelt backwards is nolagem, sounds fishy to me
17:17.36Megalonit sounds just like your mother smells
17:17.54MegalonI love it when a plan comes together
17:22.08Megalonso Fisker
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17:34.05Slayman1problems with EU realms anyone have?
17:34.13Slayman1is YODA
17:34.36sbuyay, deathy
17:35.02Slaymansbu: stream or blizzcon in real life?
17:36.19sbustream
17:36.27sbugot mail today, 15:18
17:36.31sbu(spam folder :p)
17:36.50Slaymanwas it worth it? I can't seem to think it would be, this year at least
17:37.17durcynblizzcon was awful this year, what are you talking about
17:37.44sbudurcyn: yes... :/
17:37.44Slaymanthought so as well from the info mmoc provided it would not have been worth the money
17:37.47sbuit was indeed
17:37.48durcynnothing meaningful announced, and half the panels were just human waste blathering into microphones
17:37.52sbulast year was great
17:38.00durcynlooking at you, red shirt guy
17:38.25StanzillaBloodsail Buccaneer faction reputation will remain in-game. Also, to ensure that this change does not negatively affect Cataclysm quest progression in Stranglethorn Vale, Booty Bay Bruisers will now provide reputation up through Exalted.
17:38.26Stanzillagaaah
17:38.32Stanzillano i have to do this shit again
17:41.43Axodioushi ho, hi ho, it's off to kill you go
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17:51.17starlonI don't suppose there's a comandline CC? heh
17:54.08Slaymanyou suppose correctly
17:57.09Torhalstarlon: https://github.com/Adirelle/wowaceTools
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17:57.28nevcairielwho writes cli tools in php o.o
17:57.58Torhalnevcairiel: Apparently Adirelle does.
17:58.38starlonTorhal: It specifies wowace. I'm assuming it works with Curseforge as well?
17:59.37durcynthere is no difference between wowace and curseforge
17:59.50starlonnods.
18:00.06starlonexcept one's better than the other? :)
18:00.52TorhalYou can't upload zips on WoWAce
18:00.58starlonah
18:01.32durcynwell, true, and wowace repos default to open
18:01.36Torhal...or stuff that's basically slapped-together. The emphasis is quality.
18:02.04durcynbut as far as the backend, they're vhosts on the same box even
18:02.18TorhalIt be scary mon.
18:02.34nevcairielselect the CF theem for wowace, and you wont see a difference!
18:02.38nevcairieltheme*
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18:02.55starlonlol
18:05.03TorhalActually, I think you will on projects with donation information set up - I think ckk hard-coded the donation tab color.
18:10.43Pneumatusi don't even remember what the wowace theme looks like
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18:11.49Pneumatusnor do i remember how to check what current theme is in use, or change theme
18:11.57nevcairieli'm using the "old" wowace theme with the color gradients instead of the parchment textures
18:12.17nevcairielwell, with some modifications
18:12.20Torhalhttp://www.wowace.com/themes/
18:12.27Fiskernevcairiel
18:12.28Fiskeri brr
18:12.29TorhalThere's no link. It's an Easter Egg
18:12.56Pneumatusi think im using stan's theme
18:13.09nevcairielFisker
18:13.13nevcairielturn up the heat
18:13.36Fiskerwhy?
18:14.44nevcairielthen you dont brr anymore
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18:16.12Fiskeroh but i will
18:18.51Shefkijnwhiteh: I couldn't reproduce that persons problem with pet groups.  No idea what their issue is.
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19:06.48Ackisnevcairiel: can you implement this ticket via the themes we have: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2541-improve-the-default-css-theme/ it didn't exactly like what I tried
19:07.30nevcairielshould be possible
19:07.36nevcairieli guess
19:07.55harl|awayis there an action bar addon that doesn't touch the actual action buttons, yet still removes all the graphics from the default action bars and make them all showable and movable and stackable at the bottom of the screen?
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19:18.13harlmaybe i should just do my own skin/layout using rABS or something
19:18.26durcyndominos uses the standard bar/button IDs, you're talking bollocks if you want the standard frames moved though
19:19.38industrialIs it possible to know when a new BuffFrame# frame is created? I want to add them all as children to my own frame and expand that frame's width to the amount of buffs present and setpoint it centered so it grows from the center of the screen above my char..
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19:55.52Slaymansay, I'm a total friggin noob, and I want to make a small(-ish) addon basically for myself where do I start? (given that I have rudimentary knowledge of programming)
19:56.05nevcairiel~pil
19:56.06purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
19:56.09nevcairiel~wowprogramming
19:56.10purlwell, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
19:56.32Repo10archud3: 03nyyr * r43 Rings (4 files in 1 directory): Added sanity checks for tickets #30 and #29
19:56.36starlon~~
19:57.48Slaymanis wow addon language lua based on 5.1 ?
19:58.24nevcairielbasically, yes
19:58.28nevcairielsome customizations
19:59.48Slaymanok major differences between 5.0 and 5.1 besides the customization from blizzard (major meaning will I get bitten in the ass if I act according to the free 5.0 book)
20:01.02thelibrarianhttp://www.lua.org/versions.html
20:01.02nevcairielmostly in the way how for each loops work (although the new way worked in 5.0 too, not sure what is advertised in the book), and variable argument handling
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20:10.30Slaymanthx nev, now all I need is not to stop before I started and all's well once I'm underway there may be questions to whom it may concern
20:13.54Repo10cooldowncount: 03kiki * r90 CooldownCount.toc: update version
20:19.03Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r313 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
20:19.04RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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20:19.12RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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20:19.42RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
20:19.55Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 044.0-release5 * r314 : Weekly Tag - #5
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21:14.15industrialAnyone have an idea? http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18892
21:16.02industrialCurrent tree is https://github.com/Industrial/idAddon/tree/01aa0701a5dd840993a2f8b4d824a29380cc9796
21:18.40industrial2) Right now I have the defaults filled in Addon:OnInitialize(). This includes individual module defaults. Can I get those default done in <module>:OnEnable() as I do with the options?
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21:20.13Stanzillavhaarr: what's that gen.lua in Imba's toc btw?
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21:25.30Slayman1Gen, he's a geezer and an assasin, protecting Chun-Li from evildoers
21:25.42Slayman1first introduced in SF1
21:26.01Slayman1So imba's toc is honoring him
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21:28.52ParnicAckis: you're "now" up to 142 pets?
21:29.09Ackisyeah Parnic
21:29.25Slaymanare you out of your mind?
21:29.26Ackisthe Deathy came out today
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21:29.41vhaarrStanzilla: it's the script I use to generate the bit flags for each spec/pet
21:30.06Slaymanneed more monitor real estate damnit
21:30.15Stanzillavhaarr: ah ok, was just wondering when I looked over my framexml log and it was missing
21:30.22ParnicAckis: you said you're "not" up to 142 pets :)
21:30.42Ackisoh my bad
21:30.46Ackismeh it's twitter
21:30.52Ackisnot like it's a literary masterpiece
21:30.53Parniclanguage is always important
21:31.38SlaymanStanzilla: my explanation was no good then? *sadface*
21:32.02Stanzillaoh
21:32.03Stanzillait was
21:32.08Stanzillajust didnt read it :p
21:32.42Slaymanhugs *sadpanda* while being overread
21:32.58SlaymanI'm sensitive you know ;)
21:33.51Stanzilla^^
21:33.56StanzillaShefki: got my pm btw?
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21:39.18AckisWoW needs a clap-trap mini pet
21:39.48Slaymanwhoever owns borderlands might disagree
21:39.58industrialclptrp
21:40.04Slaymanand I mean the trademark not a copy of the game
21:40.20industrialCan anyone gimma hand on this? http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18892
21:40.55Slaymanindustrial: wait I remember you ...
21:40.59Slaymanin the mountains!
21:41.16sbumhhhm
21:41.58industrialwut?
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21:52.02Repo10skillet: 03yossa * r211 / (37 files in 5 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
21:52.03RepoSkillet:
21:52.04Repo- Ace3
21:52.05Repo- _G
21:52.06Repo- localization
21:52.27Slayman@describe skillet
21:52.29RepoSlayman: http://www.wowace.com/addons/skillet/. Skillet. A replacement tradeskill window
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21:55.03FiskerAckis
21:55.12Fiskeryou need a ditch to be ditched in
21:56.00Slaymanoh it's Fisker, missed you already
21:56.13Fiskerwho are you?
21:56.17Slaymanno one
21:56.20Fiskersome kind of jerkman?
21:57.32SlaymanI am the Ghost in the machine, the sand in your gear, the jelly on your peanutbutter. I basically just am
21:58.00SlaymanI may be closely related to Darkwing Duck though
21:58.37sbuuhhh darkwing duck, me likes
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22:04.51Slaymansbu: I loved the Intro, and the gameboy games  the series itself not as much.
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22:10.07Stanzillamy best friend's dad in prime school is the german voice of darkwing duck^^
22:10.30SlaymanStanzilla: you are shitting me! get out!
22:10.40StanzillaI'm not!
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22:11.46Slaymanso you are(were) friends with the son of the voice of Dr. Evil?
22:11.54Stanzillayes
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22:12.01Slaymannow I hate you
22:13.40Stanzilla:(
22:13.49Stanzillahe did many other voices, too!
22:15.39Slaymanthe most prominent person I know is http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1667631/
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22:16.54Stanzillahttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0378660/ is living in my street
22:17.39doom0rhe's a hobo?
22:17.47Slaymanmichael herbig has done NOTHING funny after Bullyparade
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22:35.30harli don't like how my character twitches every time i change target
22:36.12SlaymanI don't like how my eyelid twitches all the time when I'm sleep deprivated
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22:38.53harlwell, did your eyelid twitch before 4.x?
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22:41.46Slaymanoccasionally
22:41.58doom0rmine did =\ i get dry eyelashes that bump other ones in a bad way
22:44.19harlyou're both not my character then.
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22:56.57ShefkiStanzilla: Actually no I didn't get your PM.
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23:01.32doom0rApplying non-critical updates. You could probably install vanilla 5-disc faster.
23:03.54Repo10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 24b3934 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Few more bug fixes
23:07.30StanzillaShefki: wowace forum pm :/ :(
23:08.01Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v.1.25 * r699 : Tagging as v.1.25
23:08.02RepoForgot to tag a release version that contains the popup notice telling users to switch to GatherMate2
23:09.56Stanzillanow as frontpage pm
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23:20.22Repo10skillet: 03yossa * r212 Skillet.lua: Skillet:
23:20.22Repo- fixed options
23:20.43Repo10cooldowncount: 03kiki 04v3.3 * r91 : Tagging as v3.3
23:26.27kagaromitch0:  i uses thos adjusted names so it matches the new blizz naming scheme
23:26.34ShefkiStanzilla: Ahh I almost never go to the wowace forum.  I meant on wowace itself.  Which you've done.
23:31.23Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.5-beta-14-9-g6f62b1b / (4 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
23:31.24Repo6f62b1b: Fixed totems.
23:31.25Repo088c1df: Ensure we get loaded after tullaCC (to detect it).
23:31.27Repob88e3bb: Moved the totem definition to Specials.lua so they are always enabled.
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