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| 00:09.15 | lozon | for the "donation info" for an addon, i put in my paypal email, but it just returns to that page when i submit it and never saves. is there a pre-requisite for it? |
| 00:11.22 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Fixed missing dependencies, and loading order. |
| 00:11.28 | Repo | 10pitbull4_holypowerbar: 03Starinnia * r11 HolyPowerBar.lua: -don't display on non-player frames (for real) |
| 00:11.38 | Repo | 10pitbull4_soulshardbar: 03Starinnia * r6 SoulShardBar.lua: -don't display on non-player frames |
| 00:12.06 | Humbedooh | used a hosted button instead |
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| 00:12.58 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: what exactly do you mean? |
| 00:13.52 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.0.0beta17 * r57 : |
| 00:13.53 | Repo | Tagging as 4.0.0beta17. It should now be fully self-sufficient and not rely on other addons to provide required libraries. |
| 00:14.44 | Repo | 10pitbull4_holypowerbar: 03Starinnia 041.0.3 * r12 : Tagging as 1.0.3 |
| 00:15.00 | Repo | 10pitbull4_soulshardbar: 03Starinnia 041.0.3 * r7 : Tagging as 1.0.3 |
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| 00:29.55 | Gnarfoz | @describe atramede |
| 00:29.56 | Gnarfoz | @describe atramedes |
| 00:29.56 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'atramede' |
| 00:29.57 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Raid level sound warning for Atramedes in Blackwing Descent |
| 00:30.02 | Gnarfoz | @project atramedes |
| 00:30.03 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Game: WoW. Maat (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 hours ago |
| 00:30.17 | Stanzilla | fail Gnarfoz |
| 00:30.46 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 00:31.09 | Stanzilla | fail I say! |
| 00:31.14 | Gnarfoz | ~fail stanzilla |
| 00:31.14 | purl | stanzilla: FAIL! |
| 00:31.24 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 00:38.02 | Humbedooh | ~pie |
| 00:38.02 | purl | pie is, like, NOT a mathematical term. It's a food. or about 8.539734222677. |
| 00:38.10 | Humbedooh | aha! |
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| 00:43.09 | lozon2 | whats the prerequisite for setting up paypal donations on an addon? |
| 00:43.34 | Funkeh` | being awesome |
| 00:51.16 | Humbedooh | lozon2: make a donation button at the paypal site and save it in your profile |
| 00:51.25 | Humbedooh | then snag the hosted_id thing from it |
| 00:51.39 | lozon2 | ah, i was just putting in my email,but i doesnt save |
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| 00:52.25 | Connor1 | LOL |
| 00:52.28 | Connor1 | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/october/factchecker_small.jpg |
| 00:52.35 | lozon2 | ya, its epic |
| 00:52.41 | Humbedooh | https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_button-designer&factory_type=buynow |
| 00:53.13 | lozon2 | Humbedooh, tyvm! |
| 00:53.19 | Humbedooh | yw! |
| 00:54.51 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess * r19 Broker_AltGuild.lua: Fix options panel chat spam, ticket #14 |
| 00:55.01 | Humbedooh | then, when you've made your saved button, you click on that profile link on top and then "my saved buttons" |
| 00:55.11 | Humbedooh | and then there should be an ID next to your button |
| 00:56.21 | Humbedooh | and then you just have to wait a year or two for someone to donate a dollar :> |
| 00:56.24 | pompy | wonder why on teh calendar in game it says 4:00AM today Hallow's End was supposed to end, but it's still going on. |
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| 01:10.55 | Stanzilla | hugs Funkeh` |
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| 01:36.33 | Gnarfoz | great |
| 01:36.48 | Gnarfoz | not enough ink or herbs on the AH to sustain my glyph-making |
| 01:37.13 | SunTsu | No herbalist? |
| 01:37.29 | Gnarfoz | like I'm going to go farming oO |
| 01:37.51 | Gnarfoz | I'm not /that/ desperate :D |
| 01:39.14 | Gnarfoz | hmm, I think my herbalist isn't even at 450, so you this might actually be a good excuse to change that |
| 01:39.52 | SunTsu | there you go ;) |
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| 02:22.15 | Shefki | I'm declaring tonight cleanup my git repo. |
| 02:22.28 | Shefki | 28 stashes that are probably mostly crap. |
| 02:23.29 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed LibQTipClick. |
| 02:23.30 | Repo | Updated tooltip. |
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| 02:45.56 | Ackis | Parnic: http://www.trueachievements.com/solutions.aspx?gamerid=70054 vote those solutions up when you have like 2-5 minutes you want to kill :D |
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| 02:56.59 | Humb^telly | Kaelten: what time does the curse servers run on? (as in, how long till midnight) |
| 02:57.07 | Torhal | Humb^telly: UTC |
| 02:57.10 | Humb^telly | s/does/do/ |
| 02:57.27 | Humb^telly | hm, then I don't get the download counters at all :\ |
| 02:57.39 | Kaelten | Humb^telly: huh |
| 02:57.41 | Kaelten | ? |
| 02:57.46 | Humb^telly | would've thought they'd update once a month since they haven't for the last three weeks |
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| 02:58.06 | Torhal | Humb^telly: Well, there was the datacenter move, so some things are just plain fucked at the moment. |
| 02:58.09 | Torhal | Methinks that's one. |
| 02:58.25 | Humb^telly | could be, but I had the same issue before that iirc |
| 02:58.43 | Humb^telly | the total downloads always update just fine, but the avg and the page hits never seem to change |
| 02:58.47 | Torhal | Yeah, the counters were fubar for a long time but they were fixed. |
| 02:58.59 | Torhal | Since the move, they've been fubar again. |
| 02:59.17 | Humb^telly | thinks we all need someone to blame... |
| 02:59.28 | Torhal | Doesn't matter to me, since I'm used to Curse behaving badly. I'm just waiting for the site relaunch to fix everything. |
| 02:59.47 | Humb^telly | :o a secret new super site? |
| 02:59.50 | Humb^telly | with free pie? |
| 03:00.00 | Torhal | I think it was originally slated for September, but Kaelten refuses to clone himself. |
| 03:00.02 | Kaelten | I'll poke the guy who's over curse.com tommorrow and see if the cron that recounts the avgs is running |
| 03:00.12 | Kaelten | Torhal: I've tried! |
| 03:00.32 | Torhal | Kaelten: Blood slides don't count. |
| 03:00.33 | Humb^telly | did you use virgin kitten blood? |
| 03:00.52 | Kaelten | Torhal: :P |
| 03:00.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:23.28 | Baps | "There are fundamental technical reasons why it is sometimes necessicary to sacrifice a live chicken to your SCSI chain." |
| 03:30.32 | Shefki | You know there is value in Blizzard implementing better unit frames. |
| 03:31.18 | Shefki | Like this: |
| 03:31.19 | Shefki | --DEBUG FIXME - We should really try to avoid having OnUpdate on every frame. An event when going in/out of range would be greatly preferred. |
| 03:31.19 | Arrowmaster | Baps: its goats not chicken |
| 03:31.45 | Shefki | Or |
| 03:31.45 | Shefki | --PLEEEEEASE FIX ME. This makes me very very sad. (Unfortunately, there isn't a great way to deal with the lack of "raid1targettarget" events though) |
| 03:32.24 | Shefki | So in otherwords they realized how shitty it is not to have events for the stuff they're missing events for. |
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| 03:36.18 | Repo | 10triage (experimental): 03baps * r13 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:36.19 | Repo | Defer roster update processing while in combat, sounds when opening/closing dialog, beginnings of processing dialog state updates. |
| 03:43.23 | Shefki | I wish we had an Layerstack like we have a framestack |
| 03:43.29 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r38 / (4 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 03:43.30 | Repo | Fixed a bug when displays were set to 0 width |
| 03:43.31 | Repo | Switched the positions of "Okay" and "Cancel" buttons in texture and icon picker screens |
| 03:43.32 | Repo | Added a tooltip to load options that can have multi-selects to indicate that they have three modes |
| 03:43.32 | Shefki | Or there was an option to show layers with /framestack. |
| 03:43.33 | Repo | Fixed multi-select load options to work with Group settings |
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| 03:52.59 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r39 WeakAurasOptions/WeakAurasOptions.lua: Made the Icon picker's search function case-insensitive |
| 03:56.17 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r40 WeakAuras.lua: Minor organization fix |
| 03:58.04 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn 041.2.4 * r41 : (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 03:58.05 | Repo | Tagging as 1.2.4 |
| 03:58.06 | Repo | - Group-wide auras have been improved |
| 03:58.07 | Repo | - "Other" triggers have been sorted into "Event" and "Status" categories |
| 03:58.09 | Repo | - Lua-savvy users can now define Custom triggers |
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| 04:24.44 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: that would be oh-so awesome. |
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| 04:31.19 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-14-g58d6fa8 Modules/ (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 04:31.31 | Repo | 58d6fa8: Allow fast healthbar updates to be disabled per layout. |
| 04:31.33 | Repo | d9683e2: Enable fast health updates. |
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| 04:50.59 | Shefki | Did they ever get rid of the FSR like they said they were going to? |
| 04:53.18 | Gnarfoz | should already be gone, afaiaw |
| 04:53.33 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 04:53.37 | Gnarfoz | as far as I'm aware |
| 04:53.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:54.29 | Shefki | I can't find anything that talks about it and I'm too lazy to try and do the math by hand. |
| 04:59.10 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r26 ProfessionsVault.lua: add a close button, frame lock button and escape handler |
| 04:59.24 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r27 images (3 files in 1 directory): add images |
| 05:00.54 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Added bulletproofing of config db variable. |
| 05:01.04 | Repo | 10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 041.0 beta5 * r28 : Tagging as 1.0 beta5 |
| 05:01.46 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.0.0beta18 * r59 : Tagging as 4.0.0beta18 |
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| 05:22.46 | pb_ee1 | Hey there, people of #wowace |
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| 05:30.00 | pb_ee1 | Hum... will wowpedia.org contain any information on UI as wowwiki.com did? Or is the standard now wowprogramming.com ? |
| 05:30.19 | Nechckn_AFK | pretty much both, still |
| 05:30.40 | Nechckn_AFK | err.. wowpedia and wowprogramming, that is |
| 05:30.50 | Nechckn_AFK | especially for most of the "new" stuff |
| 05:31.19 | pb_ee1 | Sure, but is there already an existing section on wowpedia.org on the UI? |
| 05:31.24 | pb_ee1 | Couldn't find it on the main page. |
| 05:31.44 | Nechckn_AFK | http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 05:31.45 | pb_ee1 | Ha, nvm. |
| 05:31.50 | pb_ee1 | Thanks. |
| 05:32.04 | Nechckn_AFK | was pasting as you said it - enjoy! |
| 05:32.06 | pb_ee1 | Last thing: why the change? Political issues? |
| 05:32.13 | Nechckn_AFK | Um... basically, yes |
| 05:32.26 | pb_ee1 | Okay, I'll be nice enough not to ask why here :P |
| 05:32.31 | Nechckn_AFK | wikia was slowly turning into the devil, apparently. |
| 05:32.38 | pb_ee1 | Yeah, I suppose. |
| 05:33.05 | Nechckn_AFK | need to bolt, take care! |
| 05:33.08 | pb_ee1 | Thanks for answering while being AFK ;-) |
| 05:33.31 | pb_ee1 | needs to do some cleanup in his favorites. |
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| 05:43.14 | Rokiyo | secure handlers are still broken, right? what addon could be causing the the stack trace listed here? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ice-hud.aspx |
| 05:43.42 | Rokiyo | c stack overflow from apparently getting stuck in a recursive loop o.O |
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| 05:56.22 | Shefki | Rokiyo: I've seen Macaroon do that. |
| 05:56.35 | Shefki | But he doesn't seem to have that. |
| 05:56.50 | Shefki | Could be just a generic bar addon issue though. |
| 05:57.38 | Rokiyo | ah, thanks |
| 05:58.20 | Rokiyo | is this a blizzard bug that's likely to get fixed any time soon? |
| 05:58.28 | Shefki | No idea. |
| 05:59.23 | Shefki | I've found some bugs in some of the secure stuff where it's possible to cause loops like that with the new RestrictedEnvironments. |
| 05:59.26 | Shefki | I've reported them. |
| 05:59.32 | Shefki | If they'll get fixed or not I don't know. |
| 05:59.47 | Shefki | I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't similar issues in other areas. |
| 06:00.11 | doom0r | Blizzard: Soon |
| 06:00.29 | Rokiyo | hrm |
| 06:00.31 | pb_ee1 | How many guilds are registered on wowstead.com? |
| 06:00.45 | Rokiyo | well thanks, I'll pass this info onto this guy |
| 06:00.51 | pb_ee1 | I'll be moving to San Francisco soon and I'll be looking for a guild ;p |
| 06:00.56 | Shefki | One of the ones I noticed was if you disabled the mouse on a unit frame created by a GroupHeader before changing attributes on it then it would trigger an SecureGroupHeader_Update which caused it to recreate the unit again. |
| 06:01.08 | pb_ee1 | Ha, 6,456 exactly. |
| 06:01.19 | pb_ee1 | It's fucking written in the header of the page, you noob. |
| 06:01.22 | Shefki | which triggers the same thing to happena gain, and there goes a infinite loop unitil it stack overflows. |
| 06:01.26 | pb_ee1 | smashes his head on a wall. |
| 06:01.33 | doom0r | pebkac |
| 06:01.59 | Shefki | Yeah found a really stupid bug in my frames_to_anchor code. |
| 06:02.22 | Rokiyo | interesting |
| 06:02.43 | Rokiyo | i wonder if there's a similar one for action bar buttons |
| 06:02.49 | Shefki | Probably. |
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| 06:14.33 | Rokiyo | does anybody know what layer Frame:CreateTexture(name, layer) defaults to if you pass in a nil or invalid layer? |
| 06:15.42 | Rokiyo | oh, derp... that'll teach me for using wowwiki instead of wowprogramming |
| 06:15.49 | Rokiyo | ignore my last question :) |
| 06:39.11 | doom0r | wo wo wo wo woah, slow down there, when the hell did Mangorn Flinthammer expand the business? |
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| 06:44.21 | Mikk | Also, you may want to stop using wowwiki.com and use wowpedia.org instead |
| 06:47.48 | Rokiyo | Mikk: I do want, but google is stubborn as hell and doesn't seem to want to list wowpedia |
| 06:49.01 | Mikk | yeah i know. it hasn't even finished spidering the site yet |
| 06:49.15 | Mikk | (as evidenced by googling site:wowpedia.org SomeSearchTermHere) |
| 06:50.27 | Sorha | I recently made a project that got a changes required tag (Because another one exists with practically the same name). I was wondering if it is enough if I change the project name? (on the project and in my addon even though I don't think I can change the URL) |
| 06:52.39 | Mikk | Sorha: which project? |
| 06:53.08 | Sorha | JQuest, the notice wasn't quite complete "Was wondering if you'd potentially be w" was all it got :( |
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| 06:55.00 | Mikk | is this on wowace.com or curseforge.com? |
| 06:55.07 | Sorha | wowace |
| 06:55.33 | Mikk | hmm not finding it |
| 06:55.37 | Mikk | give me an url? |
| 06:56.24 | Sorha | http://www.wowace.com/addons/jquest/ |
| 06:56.42 | Sorha | Hasn't been approved yet so probably doesn't turn up in searches ^_^ |
| 06:57.03 | Mikk | exactly |
| 06:57.21 | Mikk | the whole note says "Was wondering if you'd potentially be willing to rename it?" |
| 06:57.46 | Sorha | Aaa.. I can't get that much of it to show up :( |
| 06:57.55 | Mikk | no, seems the web site is being silly |
| 06:58.02 | Mikk | (i'm reading it in the admin log) |
| 06:58.23 | Mikk | anyway, i can change pretty much everything about it |
| 06:58.26 | Mikk | what name did you have in mind? |
| 06:59.23 | Sorha | Not really sure to tell the truth.. thus my typical J<Purpose> naming convention >.> IshQuestLog maybe will do |
| 06:59.39 | Mikk | aha, you have more named that way |
| 06:59.57 | Sorha | only a little one called JHide for showing/hiding other addons :) |
| 07:00.48 | Mikk | well |
| 07:00.55 | Mikk | it's not like it absolutely NEEDS to be renamed |
| 07:01.06 | Mikk | but you may want to give it some thought because of that collision |
| 07:01.16 | Mikk | people like shortening names when they talk about stuff |
| 07:01.25 | Mikk | and i can certainly see a lot of people calling "jasonquest" just "jquest" for short |
| 07:01.41 | Mikk | and then someone looks your addon up and files bug reports on it without realizing that it's a different addon |
| 07:01.44 | Mikk | or something silly like that |
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| 07:02.12 | Lulia | Bleh |
| 07:02.22 | Lulia | Is there a mod awake? |
| 07:02.25 | Mikk | yes |
| 07:02.28 | Sorha | Yeah I see the problem there to :) I don't really mind renaming it, when I think of something is it just a matter of renaming the project in management and doing a mass replace in my code? Or should I annoy an admin about the URL? :) |
| 07:02.45 | Mikk | Sorha: i can fix the url.. but you need to make sure everything is commited |
| 07:02.57 | Mikk | because it changes your repo too =) |
| 07:03.28 | Mikk | Lulia: what do you need? |
| 07:03.31 | Sorha | I work on a offline copy and just alter my local repo when I go to upload so should be ok on that front :) |
| 07:03.55 | Mikk | Sorha: cool then. any admin can change the project url |
| 07:03.55 | Lulia | I, uh, made a project on WoWAce but decided to go ahead and go with Curseforge instead since I manually do version control myself. One of the mods offered to transfer it over, but I sort of forgot and made a new project on Curseforge |
| 07:04.09 | Lulia | Is it possible for me to delete the project on WoWAce without deleting the Curseforge one? |
| 07:04.22 | Mikk | it certainly should be or they screwed up majorly |
| 07:04.53 | Lulia | Hmm, I dont see a delete option at all |
| 07:05.03 | Mikk | Lulia: gimme an url |
| 07:05.28 | Lulia | http://www.wowace.com/addons/power_bars/ |
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| 07:06.40 | Mikk | and on curseforge? |
| 07:07.20 | Lulia | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/ |
| 07:07.24 | Lulia | I dont want that one deleted though! |
| 07:07.26 | Lulia | :P |
| 07:07.36 | Lulia | If you want to approve it though, I dont mind ;) |
| 07:08.16 | Mikk | yeah i just wanted to confirm they're 1. by the same submitter and 2. created in the order you're claiming :P |
| 07:08.24 | Lulia | Ah |
| 07:08.40 | Mikk | i'm not a curseforge admin so can't help you with the approve ;) |
| 07:08.45 | Lulia | Aww :P |
| 07:09.06 | Lulia | As long as it doesn't take DAYS like the WoWAce one, lol |
| 07:09.32 | Sorha | Means more days to find bugs :D |
| 07:09.43 | Mikk | Lulia: http://www.wowace.com/addons/power_bars/ is about as good as it gets :P |
| 07:09.44 | Lulia | Thanks for deleting the vestigal one, Mikk |
| 07:10.15 | Lulia | I've found most of the bugs I can find, Sorha! I need other people to find the ones I can't see ;) |
| 07:10.29 | Lulia | I'm excited about this version though |
| 07:10.41 | Lulia | It puts most of the base functionality in. Now I just get to improve upon what's there. |
| 07:11.31 | Sorha | :) |
| 07:11.31 | Lulia | Mikk, do you know of any good tutorials on how to split up AddOn files? I just have one huge file right now, but it would be nice to chop it down into relevant chunks. |
| 07:11.45 | Lulia | It's just the load-order thing that scares me about splitting it up. |
| 07:12.12 | Mikk | No, I don't know of any such tutorial |
| 07:12.21 | Lulia | Poo |
| 07:12.36 | Sorha | Going with my inability to name things creatively I might just go for 'SorhaQuestLog' (url: sorhaquestlog) :) |
| 07:12.38 | Mikk | which "load-order thing"? |
| 07:12.51 | Lulia | What does your AddOn do, Sorha? |
| 07:12.51 | Mikk | Sorha: hehe =) |
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| 07:12.56 | Mikk | it's a questlog! |
| 07:13.07 | Lulia | The fact that functions used in other functions need to come before said functions |
| 07:13.08 | Lulia | etc... |
| 07:13.18 | Mikk | Yeah standard programming problem |
| 07:13.21 | Lulia | Various frame initializations need to happen before they can be used in some functions |
| 07:13.29 | Lulia | Well |
| 07:13.33 | Mikk | The same problem exists inside a single file though =) |
| 07:13.37 | Lulia | In C++ I could just make header files |
| 07:13.46 | Lulia | And so the problem was only isolated to within-file |
| 07:13.59 | Lulia | Which is fine |
| 07:14.06 | Mikk | the same is true for Lua really |
| 07:14.10 | Lulia | How so? |
| 07:14.26 | Mikk | if you create the functions as members of a table and don't start calling them until the file is finished parsing |
| 07:14.27 | Mikk | you're fine |
| 07:14.33 | Mikk | you can also do the same with local functions |
| 07:14.43 | Mikk | by putting e.g. "local SomeFunction" at the top |
| 07:14.44 | Lulia | Huh? |
| 07:14.44 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: just as a quick note, if you Google "site:wowpedia.org SomeSearchTermHere" with Chrome and have Google Preview, all thumbnails are just wrong |
| 07:14.55 | Mikk | and then defining t with "function SomeFunction(blah)" further down |
| 07:15.04 | pb_ee1 | I *know* you can't change anything about it, but think about it if you want to link searches of Wowpedia anywhere on the net :p |
| 07:15.29 | Lulia | Let's save I have the following: |
| 07:15.29 | Lulia | File1.lua |
| 07:15.29 | Lulia | File2.lua |
| 07:15.29 | Lulia | File3.lua |
| 07:15.44 | Lulia | Oh man, I didn't expect multiple lines to come out like that, sorry :( |
| 07:15.55 | Mikk | irc is oldskool :D |
| 07:16.05 | Lulia | Anyways, and let's pretend that's how they're ordered in the .toc file. |
| 07:16.35 | Lulia | If I have a function call in File2, that function can't be located in File3, to my knowledge |
| 07:16.39 | Lulia | Because it's loaded after |
| 07:16.58 | Mikk | umm yes it can |
| 07:17.17 | Lulia | If I put the functions in a table? |
| 07:17.27 | Mikk | well.. you can do it whichever way you want |
| 07:17.35 | Mikk | it's the same as putting the function at the bottom of File2.lua |
| 07:17.57 | Mikk | the only difference is "local" declared variables |
| 07:17.58 | Lulia | But if I put it at the bottom of File2 I get an undefined global error |
| 07:18.18 | Mikk | yeah if you try calling it immediately at the file scope |
| 07:18.33 | Mikk | but if you call it a bit later, e.g. on ADDON_LOADED, all files have been completely parsed |
| 07:18.49 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 07:18.49 | Mikk | and all functions are available |
| 07:19.01 | Lulia | So you're saying all of my functions should only be called from within events? |
| 07:19.15 | Mikk | not quite |
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| 07:19.37 | Mikk | i'm saying that code that is run inside events is run after all files are parsed |
| 07:19.53 | Lulia | Right... |
| 07:19.54 | Mikk | there's certainly still valid uses for running code at the file scope while the files are actually being parsed |
| 07:20.10 | Mikk | you just need to be aware that the rest of the file has not yet been parsed |
| 07:20.24 | Mikk | here.. i'll teach you a trick about Lua |
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| 07:20.30 | Mikk | (i'm comign from a C/C++ world aswell) |
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| 07:20.46 | Mikk | do not think about a file as a file |
| 07:20.50 | Mikk | just think about it as code being executed |
| 07:21.10 | Mikk | from the top.. instead of thinking about it as function and variable declarations... |
| 07:21.19 | Mikk | think about it as a function being ran, doing stuff like... |
| 07:21.31 | Mikk | _G.MyFunctionName = function(a,b,c) ... code goes here ... end |
| 07:21.42 | Mikk | _G.MyOtherFunctionName = function(d,e,f) .... end |
| 07:21.58 | Mikk | Lua actually executes real code at the file level, which C does not do |
| 07:22.54 | Lulia | ^ Just confused me |
| 07:22.56 | Lulia | >.> |
| 07:23.02 | Mikk | ow meh |
| 07:23.40 | Lulia | Sorry! |
| 07:23.47 | Mikk | well.. in C, you only start actually "running code" inside "main()" |
| 07:23.53 | Lulia | Right |
| 07:24.03 | Mikk | which you can think of as the "ADDON_LOADED" event firing |
| 07:24.14 | Mikk | because main() doesn't get called until all function are properly defined & so forth |
| 07:24.25 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 07:24.36 | Lulia | Let's say I put an ADDON_LOADED event in File1 |
| 07:24.47 | Lulia | And the function in that event is defined in File3 |
| 07:25.31 | Lulia | I wouldn't get an error? |
| 07:25.45 | pb_ee1 | Nope |
| 07:25.46 | Mikk | depends on how you do it.. if you execute at the file scope in file1: MyFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", FunctionDefinedInFile3) |
| 07:25.47 | Lulia | Because right now if I define the function after the event in the same file, I get an error |
| 07:25.52 | Mikk | then you get an error |
| 07:25.59 | Mikk | because FunctionDefinedInFile3 has not yet been defined |
| 07:26.11 | pb_ee1 | Ha, ye ;p |
| 07:26.27 | Lulia | What's the proper way? |
| 07:26.28 | Mikk | (the same way that not even the NEXT LINE in file1 has not yet been executed!) |
| 07:26.36 | Mikk | But if you do |
| 07:26.44 | pb_ee1 | On the other hand if you do in your ADDON_LOADED something such as MyAddon:Bwah() and function MyAddon:Bwah() is defined in File3, you won't get any error |
| 07:26.59 | Mikk | MyFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(...) return FunctionDefinedInFile3(...) end) |
| 07:27.01 | Mikk | ^ This will work |
| 07:27.13 | doom0r | anyone know of an addon that is the exact opposite of McDuck? instead of keeping a set amount of gold and sending rest to alt, send enough to balance a specific amount on each? |
| 07:27.33 | Lulia | Does it have to be a return of the function? |
| 07:27.38 | Mikk | no |
| 07:27.55 | Mikk | The thing is.. that "function(...) ..." bit doesn't get executed until the first event |
| 07:27.59 | pb_ee1 | Hum, nice tip Mikk , on the function() thing. |
| 07:27.59 | Mikk | which happens after all files are loaded |
| 07:28.44 | Lulia | Well, hmm |
| 07:28.45 | Mikk | think of taking an address/reference of something in C that hasn't been set yet |
| 07:29.02 | Mikk | FunctionDefinedInFile3 remains NULL until file3 has been parsed |
| 07:29.13 | Lulia | local PowInit = CreateFrame("FRAME", "PBPowInit", UIParent); PowInit:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED"); local function OnPowInit(frame, event, addon) if addon == "PowerBars" then GetInfo(); InitFrames(); end end |
| 07:29.30 | Lulia | That function right there, if I define InitFrames() after the event |
| 07:29.39 | Lulia | It will throw an error. |
| 07:29.40 | Mikk | should work 100% fine |
| 07:29.54 | Lulia | :-/ |
| 07:30.00 | Shefki | *sigh* |
| 07:30.01 | Mikk | unless it's a local function |
| 07:30.11 | Mikk | which i assume it is because of the nonunique name |
| 07:30.11 | Lulia | Ah, that could be it. |
| 07:30.13 | Shefki | http://twitter.com/matticus/status/29349937889 |
| 07:30.17 | Shefki | That's just stupid. |
| 07:30.46 | Shefki | FPS in Dalaran varies by realm population. You can't do anything useful with it. |
| 07:31.00 | Lulia | It's local, yeah. |
| 07:31.05 | Mikk | Lulia: you can get around that in a single file. you can stick just "local InitFrames" at the top |
| 07:31.21 | Mikk | and then "function InitFrames(stuff) goes here; end" further down |
| 07:31.29 | Lulia | Hmm |
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| 07:31.44 | Lulia | Or I can definite as function MyAddOn:InitFrames() ? |
| 07:31.54 | Mikk | remember that "function InitFrames" is the EXACT SAME THING as saying "InitFrames = function(stuff) goes here" |
| 07:31.59 | Lulia | And put it in a completely separate file called after the event? |
| 07:31.59 | Mikk | and we declared InitFrames as a local |
| 07:32.04 | Mikk | Lulia: definitely |
| 07:32.11 | Lulia | Hmm, alright. |
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| 07:32.20 | Lulia | I think I have a better understanding now. |
| 07:32.30 | Lulia | I'm hoping to tackle file organization in v0.4 |
| 07:32.35 | Lulia | Thanks for putting up with me :) |
| 07:32.41 | Lulia | It's 3:30am I should get some sleep. |
| 07:32.43 | Mikk | you're welcome =) |
| 07:32.50 | Mikk | and yes you should |
| 07:32.59 | Slayman | hey you put up with me! |
| 07:32.59 | Mikk | (hm? india?) |
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| 07:33.08 | Slayman | what shoul I name my diseased bear tankpet? |
| 07:33.12 | Lulia | India? |
| 07:33.14 | Mikk | no argh my timezone math sucks |
| 07:33.17 | Mikk | US east coast |
| 07:33.18 | Lulia | East Coast of the United States? |
| 07:33.18 | Lulia | :P |
| 07:33.21 | Lulia | Yeah |
| 07:33.32 | Mikk | with DST still active |
| 07:33.44 | Lulia | Sure, we'll go with India. I gotta get up to go work at the Call Center in the morning |
| 07:33.44 | Lulia | ;) |
| 07:33.48 | Mikk | haha |
| 07:33.58 | Lulia | Night |
| 07:34.00 | Mikk | gnite |
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| 07:36.19 | Sorha | Would get a bit of addon updated spam in here come major patches? |
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| 07:37.09 | Talryn | I've had some cases where after a /console reloadui that icons are messed up. The graphics get scrambled. Anyone seen that issue? |
| 07:37.38 | arkanes | Talryn: I had it the other day |
| 07:37.52 | Talryn | I don't know if it is an addon or a bug in WoW though. |
| 07:37.52 | arkanes | and today too, I guess |
| 07:37.58 | arkanes | bug in wow |
| 07:38.07 | Talryn | Ok, good. I'll top worry about it. |
| 07:38.15 | arkanes | I deleted all the /cache and /data/cache folders and that seemed to clear it up |
| 07:38.25 | Talryn | Good idea. I'll try that too. |
| 07:39.41 | Mikk | Talryn: WoW / gfx driver bug |
| 07:39.58 | Mikk | there's a setting you can try too.. i'll see if i can find it |
| 07:39.59 | Talryn | So Blizzard knows about it? |
| 07:40.17 | Mikk | that i do not know |
| 07:40.22 | Mikk | i know that i get it too |
| 07:40.40 | Mikk | and i've seen it happen in the past |
| 07:40.47 | Mikk | i think a graphics driver update fixed it that time |
| 07:41.04 | arkanes | when it happened to be, it was concurrent with a bunch of IO on the drive I keep wow on |
| 07:41.25 | Mikk | Talryn: http://www.wowpedia.org/CVar_UIFaster |
| 07:41.26 | arkanes | and after that, it was the same set of icons every time, so I figured it was cache corruption |
| 07:41.37 | arkanes | heh, there's a provocative name |
| 07:42.03 | Mikk | a bit yes but it defaults to "fastest possible" |
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| 07:46.56 | Slayman | do you still need a druid to spawn Anzu on live? |
| 07:47.15 | Talryn | No |
| 07:47.50 | Slayman | and how do I name my tanking diseased bear pet?`Can't think of a proper name for the bugger |
| 07:48.30 | doom0r | chemo |
| 07:49.06 | Slayman | doom0r: mmh, no |
| 07:49.58 | arkanes | IS BARE |
| 07:50.05 | doom0r | Wind Serpent |
| 07:51.14 | vhaarr | http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/stupid_woman_driver |
| 07:51.29 | vhaarr | I can't stop watching videos of stupid drivers |
| 07:53.43 | Mikk | Slayman: MeatShield |
| 07:53.45 | doom0r | vhaarr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8JaL8sY4pE |
| 07:53.54 | Talryn | Did someone write a library that handles luatext? |
| 07:53.56 | doom0r | Mikk: that's just lame |
| 07:54.16 | vhaarr | yeah but that's a real accident |
| 07:54.22 | Slayman | what about > Muff |
| 07:54.24 | vhaarr | the driver I linked is clearly just mentally handicapped |
| 07:54.38 | vhaarr | if you watch until the end |
| 07:54.57 | arkanes | on the topic of things which are bares |
| 07:54.58 | arkanes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqQzcS2FSrU |
| 07:55.02 | arkanes | (sfw!) |
| 07:55.12 | doom0r | yes, but it's a fire engine blowing a light without looking and being hit by a fire engine |
| 07:55.15 | doom0r | epic fail |
| 07:55.34 | doom0r | clearly in a hurry, which means sending more firemen there to help |
| 07:56.14 | pb_ee1 | vhaarr: this one is epic. |
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| 08:08.40 | Shefki | Stanzilla: You'll be happy to know I fixed one of the longstanding bugs in my private branch that was contributing to me holding it back. One step closer. |
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| 08:37.21 | Repo | Toc bump, unsure if this stuff still works but I think so :P |
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| 08:55.29 | harl | hi |
| 09:03.51 | doom0r | i really wish they'd add controls for the stock power aura crap |
| 09:04.03 | doom0r | sucks overlaying where my icehud is |
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| 09:11.49 | Mikk | there's a nice "off" button |
| 09:12.16 | Mikk | the most annoying one for me is druid clearcasting |
| 09:12.17 | Mikk | it's HUGE |
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| 09:12.26 | Mikk | and 99.9% of the time completely pointless to know about |
| 09:13.35 | pb_ee1 | I like the Frost mage ones |
| 09:13.38 | harl | agreed that it's pointless to know about, but i find it pretty easy to ignore |
| 09:13.44 | pb_ee1 | Maybe a little bit too big, but it's shiny. |
| 09:13.58 | Mikk | easy to ignore yes |
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| 09:14.24 | Mikk | and also makes it impossible to e.g. spot little bouncing green things on the ground underneath those big green swirlies |
| 09:15.00 | harl | breakfast? |
| 09:15.18 | Mikk | think icc plague wing |
| 09:15.21 | Mikk | heroic mode |
| 09:15.28 | doom0r | sure, i'll take 2 over easy, white toast, bacon |
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| 09:16.15 | harl | hm |
| 09:16.21 | Mikk | white isn't good for you. it's just carbs. |
| 09:16.29 | doom0r | cares not |
| 09:16.51 | Mikk | then again mixed up with egg&bacon it's probably balanced |
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| 09:18.28 | doom0r | i need to mimic my old xp bar, i don't feel like thinking though |
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| 09:29.56 | harl | white toast with egg and bacon isn't balanced by any means at all. |
| 09:30.07 | doom0r | ? |
| 09:30.15 | doom0r | balances my taste buds perfectly |
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| 09:42.49 | Repo | Fix a typo in a frame name which was causing FrameXML.log errors. |
| 09:43.07 | pb_ee1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSbUOoq4Vg |
| 09:44.31 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r399 TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.xml: |
| 09:44.32 | Repo | Collapse All button no longer inherits a non-existent template. |
| 09:46.16 | doom0r | there's an opactiy setting for the spell alerts, never saw that before, much better |
| 09:48.08 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r400 TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.xml: Fix a bug in r398. I changed the wrong string. :( |
| 09:48.12 | pb_ee1 | Where? :p |
| 09:48.33 | doom0r | interface -> combat |
| 09:48.59 | Mikk | so hum.. now that autobar seems to be dead in the water |
| 09:49.10 | Mikk | what would i use for some extra buttons with some smartness? |
| 09:49.10 | doom0r | someone is trying to keep it alive |
| 09:49.25 | doom0r | but i don't recommend its state |
| 09:49.29 | Mikk | yeah but tbh i've been wanting to move away from it for a while. it's more than i need. |
| 09:49.46 | doom0r | i was thinking of trying macaroon and just writing what i need for each slot |
| 09:49.55 | Mikk | interesting, i was looking at macaroon too |
| 09:50.04 | doom0r | supports bf, so it'd flow right in |
| 09:50.20 | Mikk | well blah i use the default actionbars |
| 09:50.31 | Mikk | so all i want is a couple extra buttons |
| 09:50.37 | doom0r | eww |
| 09:50.48 | Mikk | it's saved me so much pain |
| 09:50.57 | Torhal | Mikk: I erplaced Autobar with OPie a couple years back |
| 09:51.03 | Torhal | replaced* |
| 09:51.08 | Torhal | Fucking sleeping fingers. |
| 09:51.10 | doom0r | i've used bt4 and haven't had really any issues since it's become 4 |
| 09:51.25 | doom0r | opie is nice sometimes |
| 09:51.28 | doom0r | depends on the use |
| 09:51.30 | Mikk | no but i've never ever had problems with encounters using special actionbars |
| 09:51.35 | Mikk | like becoming a ghost in BT |
| 09:51.35 | doom0r | auras, ports, etc |
| 09:51.38 | Mikk | vehicles |
| 09:51.39 | Mikk | pet controls |
| 09:51.51 | Mikk | it Just Works(tm) =) |
| 09:52.20 | doom0r | never had a vehicle or pet control issue |
| 09:52.41 | doom0r | for the most part, they aren't more than the default |
| 09:52.58 | doom0r | i just can't stand the default layout/look/postition |
| 09:53.27 | doom0r | i stay away from conditionals |
| 10:01.28 | Mikk | I just like being able to play when all addons are whack |
| 10:01.39 | Mikk | Or hopping onto someone else's computer |
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| 10:05.31 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r140 .pkgmeta: Added 'enable-nolib-creation: no' to .pkgmeta |
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| 10:09.12 | doom0r | wow, the xp for gathering is ridiculous |
| 10:11.15 | SunTsu | doom0r: yes, it's fun, I like getting odd situations pushing me to a new level, like discovering a new zone, or, yesterday, gather a herb |
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| 10:22.27 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 037destiny * r318 RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: - koKR Update |
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| 10:25.38 | starlon | Do people still use those special frame addons? To create colored blocks around their UI and such. |
| 10:26.09 | starlon | If so, what's the name of an addon like that? |
| 10:28.08 | jnwhiteh | kgPanels is one I think people use |
| 10:30.14 | Aeyan | Yup, |
| 10:31.48 | Repo | 10blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 * r95 BloodShieldTracker.lua: |
| 10:31.49 | Repo | Added text format options for BS bar. Fixed issue with dragging the bars. |
| 10:38.13 | doom0r | that and sunnart are the two popular ones |
| 10:38.35 | doom0r | the later aimed more towards clueless masses |
| 10:38.42 | doom0r | s/later/latter/ |
| 10:39.21 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r141 LibQTip-1.0.toc: Bumped ToC version. |
| 10:44.23 | EthanCentaurai | jnwhiteh: you've misspelled "automatically" in Clique -> Blizzard Frame Options :p |
| 10:44.35 | jnwhiteh | does not surprise me =) |
| 10:46.22 | jnwhiteh | fixed locally, thanks. |
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| 10:49.58 | starlon | thanks guys :) |
| 10:51.17 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.5-beta-12 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 10:51.18 | Repo | 3a0e168: Locales updated. |
| 10:51.21 | Repo | e390bbf: Added an option to dynamically update countdown color and size (ticket #40). |
| 10:51.22 | Repo | 4c2a946: Minor optimizations. Better handle errors. |
| 10:51.23 | Repo | 1a3275a: Removed now useless table recycling stuff. |
| 10:51.30 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.5-beta-12 * 92eba84 /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.5-beta-12". |
| 10:52.19 | Sorha | Still alive Mikk? |
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| 11:13.30 | pb_ee1 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/diedemuspack1.aspx |
| 11:13.34 | pb_ee1 | "Litch King" |
| 11:24.30 | SunTsu | I like to call him "Lychee King" |
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| 11:28.09 | pb_ee1 | Itch King? |
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| 11:33.43 | Repo | 10surface-control: 03Rabbit * r54 / (3 files in 1 directory): L10n support. |
| 11:49.58 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r8 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:49.59 | Repo | fix a font string, register events only when in Blackwing Descent |
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| 12:11.01 | Repo | 10slash-in: 03Morsker * r16 SlashIn.lua: cleanup |
| 12:11.41 | mojosdojo| | @describe surface-control |
| 12:11.42 | Repo | mojosdojo|: http://www.wowace.com/addons/surface-control/. !SurfaceControl. Forces LSM and LibSink to use specific textures and sinks. |
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| 12:31.13 | Repo | 10mui: 03Xocide 07master * v0.5-58-g1a631b2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Move the social button into the micro menu, with an option to disable it. |
| 12:35.51 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r9 Atramedes.lua: fix the timer call |
| 12:36.01 | SunTsu | @describe mui |
| 12:36.02 | Repo | SunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mui/. mUI. Simple, Clean, Small. mUI. |
| 12:36.25 | SunTsu | Great, exactly what I needed to no. not. |
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| 12:40.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7589 Bastion (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:40.47 | Repo | TwilightAscendants: fix thundershock trigger, change switch trigger, move searing wind and grounded checks around, cancel bars in last phase |
| 12:40.48 | Repo | Chogall: cancel bars in last phase |
| 12:41.25 | Rokiyo | does stuff like Texture:SetTexCoord(getXvals(),getYvals()) work? (Where each get function returns 2 values) |
| 12:41.56 | Rokiyo | or would I need to unpack the return from each get and pass them in one at a time? |
| 12:42.34 | EthanCentaurai | personally, I think you'll need to unpack |
| 12:42.48 | EthanCentaurai | but I haven't tried that sort of thing |
| 12:44.36 | Computerpunk | lua> function ret(...) print(...) end function a() return 1, 2 end function b() return 1, 2 end ret(a(), b()) |
| 12:44.36 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: 1, 1, 2 |
| 12:44.53 | Computerpunk | lua> function ret(...) print(...) end function a() return 1, 2 end function b() return 1, 2 end ret(unpack(a()), unpack(b())) |
| 12:44.53 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got number) |
| 12:45.08 | Computerpunk | hmm |
| 12:45.38 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r10 .pkgmeta: fix .pkgmeta |
| 12:45.38 | Computerpunk | wat I do wrong. :< |
| 12:46.22 | Rokiyo | I think it's doing the same thing as if you had called value = a() |
| 12:46.28 | Rokiyo | where it keeps the first value and dumps the second |
| 12:46.42 | Computerpunk | That's what I'm thinking. |
| 12:46.48 | Computerpunk | but why inside unpack too? |
| 12:46.58 | Rokiyo | well unpack only unpacks tables |
| 12:47.01 | Rokiyo | varargs aren't tables |
| 12:47.20 | Computerpunk | hmm. |
| 12:47.27 | Rokiyo | i could return a table of values, and it would be a single object |
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| 12:47.36 | Computerpunk | lua> function a() return 1, 2 end print(type(a())) |
| 12:47.36 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: number |
| 12:47.39 | Computerpunk | true. |
| 12:48.43 | Repo | 10surface-control: 03Rabbit * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:48.44 | Repo | Stop bundling LSM and Sink, other addons will have them anyway if you want to use SurfaceControl. |
| 12:51.12 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r725 / (3 files in 2 directories): fix pkgmeta and inclusion errors (Message trimmed by 24 lines) |
| 12:51.13 | Repo | merge |
| 12:51.14 | Repo | Removed tag RC12 |
| 12:51.15 | Repo | Removed tag RC11 |
| 12:51.16 | Repo | Removed tag RC10 |
| 12:51.23 | sylvanaar_work | oh holy shit |
| 12:52.39 | Nexiuz | doesnt seem good |
| 12:52.51 | sylvanaar_work | i guess nothing broke |
| 12:52.56 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.5-beta-12-1-gdc967a4 Defaults.lua: [+1 commit] Show druids' Moonfire on Sunfire and conversely. |
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| 12:53.50 | Adirelle | anyone knows when I can find the new client artwork ? |
| 12:53.52 | Adirelle | wait |
| 12:53.54 | Adirelle | @framexml |
| 12:53.59 | Adirelle | or is it |
| 12:54.01 | Adirelle | ~framexml |
| 12:54.01 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 12:54.42 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r726 .hgtags: Added tag 3.4.10 for changeset 964233a1fa82 |
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| 13:02.43 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2938 / (2 files in 2 directories): - DS2 quest chain is gone |
| 13:04.26 | Repo | 10crit-spit: 03Rabbit * r35 / (3 files in 1 directory): Prepare for l10n. |
| 13:05.55 | pb_ee1 | is prepared. |
| 13:07.21 | vhaarr | oh yeah? what locale? |
| 13:09.23 | Slayman | pb_ee1: you are NOT prepared! |
| 13:09.38 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7590 Bastion/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 13:12.26 | pb_ee1 | slays Slayman. |
| 13:12.33 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03thelibrarian * r174 Locales/localization.lua: Add missing entry to base localization. |
| 13:13.01 | Slayman | pb_ee1: My death is just a minor Setback! |
| 13:13.30 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03thelibrarian 044.0 Release 3 * r175 : Hopefully fix localization issues for real this time. |
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| 13:27.01 | SunTsu | ~seen xuerian |
| 13:27.09 | purl | xuerian <~core@64.203.145.41> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4d 18h 19m 17s ago, saying: '"I'm motivated, but not THAT motivated! D:"'. |
| 13:27.09 | SunTsu | !seen xuerian |
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| 13:32.29 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r497 / (6 files in 2 directories): add minimap-icon |
| 13:33.31 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r498 Baggins.lua: fix wrong bag opening when clicking in tooltip |
| 13:33.42 | Mikk | people need to stop being bad & learn how to install LDB viewers :P |
| 13:35.23 | profalbert | It amazes me everytime that there are still people out there using minimap-icons |
| 13:35.24 | Computerpunk | Mikk, explain ldb viewers. |
| 13:35.25 | profalbert | and liking them |
| 13:36.07 | Mikk | Computerpunk: fortress, chocolatebar, barrel, makerocketgonow, titan panel, etcetecetc |
| 13:36.41 | Computerpunk | bazooka |
| 13:36.41 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 13:36.44 | jnwhiteh | NinjaPanel =) |
| 13:36.56 | Computerpunk | wat dat |
| 13:36.56 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 13:37.04 | SunTsu | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wiki/addons-using-ldb |
| 13:37.22 | Mikk | i only recognize NinjaPanel because there's a button in one of jnwhiteh's addons that claims to do something with NinjaPanel |
| 13:37.30 | Computerpunk | jnwhiteh, stop adverting your own stuff |
| 13:37.30 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 13:37.33 | Mikk | but the addon isn't NinjaPanel! |
| 13:37.41 | Mikk | copypasta meister! |
| 13:37.45 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 13:38.06 | Mikk | oh yeah it's WoWLUa |
| 13:38.22 | Mikk | "This panel can be used to configure the NinjaPanel LDB display." <- WoWLua config screen |
| 13:38.30 | jnwhiteh | hahaha |
| 13:38.33 | jnwhiteh | nice |
| 13:38.36 | jnwhiteh | I blame dolby |
| 13:38.46 | jnwhiteh | or curseforge |
| 13:38.49 | jnwhiteh | depending on which site its on |
| 13:38.55 | jnwhiteh | because I wouldn't have made a copypasta like that =) |
| 13:39.27 | Mikk | i think i got this via CC |
| 13:41.36 | Mikk | muaha 14:38:04 [2. Trade] <Away>[Thelichkîng]: i need 86g to buy mount who can trade me plzzzzzzz i beg plzzzzzzzz plz plz plzzzzzzzzz |
| 13:41.51 | Mikk | raidbosses aren't what they used to |
| 13:42.44 | Mikk | someone sweeps in and nabs his Invincible and before you know it he selfrezzes and starts begging in trade |
| 13:43.14 | SunTsu | maybe he was looted too often and needs to beg for gold in order to drop a mount? |
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| 13:50.14 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r499 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix money-bag-options config and profile-handling |
| 13:53.11 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dgstripper/. dG Stripper. leech (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 13:53.17 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/power-toys/. Power Toys. infarmboy (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 14:16.20 | Repo | 755651b: oUF submodule updated. |
| 14:16.21 | Repo | b911368: Slighty enhanced eclipse bar and tweaked power bar sizes. |
| 14:16.53 | Repo | 10ouf_adirelle: 03Adirelle 041.5 * 06a45e3 /: [new tag] Tagging as "1.5". |
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| 14:22.56 | pb_ee1 | ~seen God |
| 14:22.59 | purl | god <~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 77d 17h 14m 1s ago, saying: 'But god is'. |
| 14:23.28 | pb_ee1 | purl: you're a lucky bot. |
| 14:23.28 | purl | I know you are but what am I? |
| 14:23.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2940 / (2 files in 2 directories): - missed Theldren |
| 14:27.46 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r224 / (6 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 14:27.47 | Repo | - Views now can render items located in the player's bags or keychain, though scrolling is not yet enabled. Added method to FBoH_GridView to clear the entire grid to make it easier to update. Added method to PropertyCollection to build the sorting array needed by he SearchCollector. Completed FBoH_ItemButtonBags so it properly calculates the correct bag slot to display. Added logic to FBoH_ItemButton so it can identify items located in players bags or keychain. |
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| 14:33.18 | sylvanaar_work | cherry Pu Erh, i just started brewing it - i hope its good... |
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| 14:58.50 | sylvanaar_work | any of you play russian wow |
| 14:59.02 | sylvanaar_work | oh and use prat |
| 14:59.51 | sylvanaar_work | or chinese wow / and use prat |
| 15:00.05 | sylvanaar_work | i want some screenshots of the text in both languages |
| 15:02.57 | [Ammo] | install russian yourself ?:) |
| 15:03.10 | sylvanaar_work | how |
| 15:03.15 | [Ammo] | I think you can just download russian language pack |
| 15:03.20 | [Ammo] | just as you can download german |
| 15:03.24 | sylvanaar_work | yeah but iam US |
| 15:03.33 | [Ammo] | then you are shit out of luck :) |
| 15:03.42 | sylvanaar_work | lol, thats why im asking |
| 15:04.38 | sylvanaar_work | i guess i can try google image search |
| 15:05.10 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:05.51 | sylvanaar_work | http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:bUcAWjcnTCsXEM:http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1358/50651039.png&t=1 |
| 15:05.53 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:06.27 | sylvanaar_work | almost what i need |
| 15:09.23 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r27 / (3 files in 2 directories): Runic power now correctly fades at 0% |
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| 15:12.02 | Lulia | Hi guys |
| 15:12.22 | Ackis | hai |
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| 15:14.01 | Gnarfoz | [Ammo]: EU wow does not encompass russian wow, they've got their own ;o |
| 15:14.48 | sylvanaar_work | I want to make a blog post about using prat in multiple languages, and I need screenshots! |
| 15:15.24 | sylvanaar_work | im interested in things like alternate fonts, in message name coloring etc. |
| 15:16.14 | Lulia | Ackis |
| 15:16.17 | Fisker | i just ate food Megalon |
| 15:17.01 | Lulia | My Curseforge project was set to a status that it couldn't be approved because a "duplicate" project on WoWInterface was found. How do I go about proving that the "duplicate" project is me? |
| 15:17.22 | Aens|Superiority | what addon would I use to add my own fonts to ace3 addons? |
| 15:18.23 | Ackis | Lulia: what project? |
| 15:18.32 | Lulia | Power Bars |
| 15:18.36 | Ackis | linkage pls |
| 15:18.41 | Ackis | (I'm really lazy |
| 15:18.45 | Ackis | and search sucks |
| 15:18.49 | Parnic|Work | it's true, he is. |
| 15:18.50 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:18.58 | sylvanaar_work | except at achievements |
| 15:19.03 | Lulia | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/ |
| 15:19.03 | Parnic|Work | ^^ |
| 15:19.08 | Ackis | Parnic|Work: http://tinyurl.com/3xr4jwg DotW :( |
| 15:19.11 | sylvanaar_work | we ought to make achievments for Ackis |
| 15:19.12 | Lulia | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/ |
| 15:19.14 | Ackis | lol sylvanaar_work |
| 15:19.23 | Lulia | I can edit the WoWInterface post to prove it's me if you want |
| 15:19.24 | Lulia | sec |
| 15:19.50 | Parnic|Work | i did make achievements for ackis. he played borderlands. |
| 15:20.09 | Lulia | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=18564 |
| 15:20.18 | Ackis | :D Parnic|Work |
| 15:20.20 | Ackis | Lulia: it's ok |
| 15:20.23 | sylvanaar_work | i'll start |
| 15:20.44 | Ackis | Parnic|Work: add an ackis character into your next game kk? |
| 15:20.45 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis has earned the achievement [I Has An Emoticon] |
| 15:21.07 | Parnic|Work | Ackis has earned the achievement [Unreasonable Request] |
| 15:21.14 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:21.17 | sylvanaar_work | this is a fun game |
| 15:21.28 | Ackis | 09:21Repo[WoW] New addon: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/. Power Bars. Chamenas (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 15:21.30 | Ackis | Lulia: ^ |
| 15:21.40 | Lulia | You don't ask people to put you in their stuff ;) |
| 15:21.46 | Lulia | Then you end up the fat, lazy, old person |
| 15:21.49 | Ackis | it wasn't approved because your user names didn't match, just a check and balance thing we do |
| 15:21.52 | Lulia | That gets killed at the end |
| 15:21.58 | Ackis | those are all true Lulia |
| 15:22.08 | Ackis | Parnic|Work: put an ackis in the game who's a lazy old fat man |
| 15:22.11 | Ackis | balding too |
| 15:22.14 | Lulia | Is there some way to prove to the staff that I'm the same person so I dont run into this in the future? :P |
| 15:22.35 | Ackis | create a new user called Lulia ;) |
| 15:22.37 | Parnic|Work | lulia: that eclipse bar looks awesome :) |
| 15:22.43 | Lulia | I have more aliases than Clark Rockefeller! |
| 15:22.48 | Lulia | Thanks, Parnic |
| 15:23.07 | Lulia | I really like the Soul Shards too |
| 15:23.27 | Ackis | deletes your project after the comments in #wowuidev |
| 15:23.31 | Lulia | The Holy Power used to be wow, but is sort of meh in comparison now, so I'm trying to think of something to make it pop more. |
| 15:23.49 | Lulia | hehehe |
| 15:24.09 | Parnic|Work | i wish i could make good-looking art :P |
| 15:24.46 | Lulia | Apparently some guy is making an Eclipse bar which "predicts" future eclipse based on your casts |
| 15:24.52 | Ackis | I can do ascii wieners :P |
| 15:24.54 | Lulia | So now I need to add that into mine too >.> |
| 15:24.58 | sylvanaar_work | Lulia: i like that idea |
| 15:25.00 | Lulia | ====D |
| 15:25.01 | Ackis | and with that I'm afk for a meeting |
| 15:25.23 | Ackis | Lulia: if you have any issues w/ that project PM me and I'll get back to it when I'm back at my desk |
| 15:25.30 | Rokiyo | oh wow, that is a very shiny eclipse bar |
| 15:25.37 | Lulia | I do too, Sylvanaar, though it's going to be hard to add it with only a level 10 druid ;) |
| 15:26.09 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis has earned the achievment [Aye Eff K?] |
| 15:26.26 | sylvanaar_work | yeah it is |
| 15:26.58 | sylvanaar_work | we should involve purl in this game |
| 15:27.54 | Lulia | Someone said the Eclipse bar isn't working for them, so I'm downloading from the site to see. |
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| 15:28.27 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 15:28.33 | Lulia | I should delete my saved vars too |
| 15:29.10 | Fisker | omg Megalon |
| 15:29.12 | Fisker | i so much came |
| 15:30.02 | sylvanaar_work | CareMeter(TM): 0 [-|--------------------------||----------------------------] 10 |
| 15:31.24 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:33.08 | Lulia | Well, apparently this guy's error holds true. |
| 15:33.15 | Lulia | Odd |
| 15:34.34 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:34.44 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/caremeter/ im going to make an addon for it |
| 15:35.00 | Lulia | heh |
| 15:35.14 | sylvanaar_work | ~ /cm 0 |
| 15:41.15 | Lulia | well lol @ that bug |
| 15:41.55 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/tickets/470-deathknight/ |
| 15:42.12 | sylvanaar_work | can anyone translate the german for me |
| 15:42.25 | arkanes | Fisker! |
| 15:42.31 | nevcairiel | he claims he cannot click names or items |
| 15:42.47 | arkanes | my wife got some utility scissors for our kitchen, and they are called "fiskers" |
| 15:42.54 | sylvanaar_work | noninteractive chatframes - got i hate them |
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| 15:44.57 | nevcairiel | Lulia: did you draw the eclipse art yourself? its really good |
| 15:45.00 | nevcairiel | i shall use that |
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| 15:48.36 | sylvanaar_work | lol the german one isnt here http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 15:49.26 | nevcairiel | the file is there though |
| 15:49.31 | nevcairiel | use deDE for the lang code |
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| 15:51.57 | Lulia | nevcairiel: Yes, I did. Thanks :) |
| 15:52.20 | Lulia | And apparently it isn't working! So I've got to fix it. |
| 15:52.56 | nevcairiel | i should install it and supply a fix :d |
| 15:53.49 | nevcairiel | btw, you should but your version number in for your file name, otehrwise you will have a load of files all with the same name in the end |
| 15:54.36 | nevcairiel | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/files/ .. like there, name just says "Power Bars" .. make that "Power Bars v0.3", or just "v0.3", so the entrys stay unique :) |
| 15:54.59 | Lulia | the zip is named v0.3 ? |
| 15:55.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:55.08 | nevcairiel | but the desriptive name of the file isnt |
| 15:55.12 | nevcairiel | descriptive* |
| 15:55.15 | Lulia | I keep all of my old stuff archived |
| 15:55.17 | nevcairiel | which is the name users see |
| 15:55.23 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 15:55.34 | Lulia | I tried changing the toc to reflect the version number and it stopped working |
| 15:57.24 | nevcairiel | tocs have a special ## Version field for that |
| 15:57.30 | nevcairiel | but when uploading a file, it asks for the name |
| 15:57.33 | nevcairiel | thats what i mean :) |
| 15:59.41 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 3e5fe79 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added in more of the tracker system. at this point it *SHOULD* start tracking raids. No GUI or option parts yet, but the broker icon does show |
| 16:00.13 | Lulia | Oh |
| 16:00.17 | Lulia | Oops :( |
| 16:00.39 | Lulia | How do I edit it? |
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| 16:00.58 | nevcairiel | you should just be able to select edit from the side menu |
| 16:01.46 | sylvanaar_work | so do i say 'Markierung aufheben "Nicht-interaktiv machen"' |
| 16:01.52 | Lulia | bug is all fixed. |
| 16:02.13 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 2866abe RaidTracker.lua: [+1 commit] fixed option name |
| 16:02.16 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: its a curse client report, he will never read your response |
| 16:02.21 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 16:02.27 | nevcairiel | its true :( |
| 16:02.29 | sylvanaar_work | but is the german correct |
| 16:02.38 | Lulia | There's no side menu on the Files page |
| 16:02.46 | nevcairiel | Lulia: select the file first :) |
| 16:02.57 | nevcairiel | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/files/1-power-bars/ |
| 16:03.02 | nevcairiel | should have a file management thing |
| 16:03.21 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: sounds a bit weird, and i have no idea if thats the proper name for the option, but sure |
| 16:03.24 | Slayman | sylvanaar_work: yes that is correct |
| 16:03.35 | sylvanaar_work | i looked it up in globalstrings |
| 16:03.44 | Parnic|Work | wowace/curse/cf should *really* email everyone involved with a specific ticket whenever something changes. that includes the reporter |
| 16:03.50 | Slayman | as nev said it's a pretty unique constellation |
| 16:03.57 | Humbedooh | I wouldn't add that hyphen between nicht and interaktiv myself :< |
| 16:03.59 | Parnic|Work | and CC should additionally close the feedback loop by popping up a message when a user's ticket has changed |
| 16:04.05 | Humbedooh | but mayhap that's just a matter of taste |
| 16:04.18 | nevcairiel | thats how blizzard put it, apparently |
| 16:04.37 | nevcairiel | Parnic|Work: i still wish for the new subscription system to be implemented sometime this century |
| 16:04.40 | nevcairiel | glares at Kaelten |
| 16:04.54 | Parnic|Work | i know nothing of said system :). will it be awesome? |
| 16:04.56 | sylvanaar_work | MAKE_UNINTERACTABLE = "Nicht-interaktiv machen" |
| 16:05.45 | Slayman | sylvanaar_work: a better way would be: 'Markierung aufheben "deaktivieren"' |
| 16:05.51 | nevcairiel | Parnic|Work: not much details are known, but it can only improve |
| 16:06.03 | Kaelten | hugs nevcairiel |
| 16:06.07 | Lulia | nevairiel: d'oh :-/ |
| 16:06.25 | Humbedooh | Slayman: hrmm, but that's be wrong in a sense |
| 16:06.44 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: getting mails for my own comments is not funny anymore! |
| 16:06.56 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: why you put it that way it's kinda hilarous |
| 16:06.59 | Slayman | Humbedooh: wenn was nicht interaktiv ist, dann ist es deaktiviert. Auch wenn's komisch klingt |
| 16:07.04 | Kaelten | it's like you're talking to yourself |
| 16:07.11 | sylvanaar_work | i do that |
| 16:07.18 | Humbedooh | nein ;o |
| 16:07.22 | Kaelten | see, nevcairiel, be more like sylvanaar_work |
| 16:07.32 | Humbedooh | wenn was nicht aktiviert ist! |
| 16:07.53 | nevcairiel | Slayman: but the option is named like that, and the text doesnt change :p |
| 16:07.59 | Humbedooh | interactive and active ain't exactly the same :\ |
| 16:08.08 | Kaelten | nevcairiel, more seriously, I do want to fix it, and if all goes well we'll have more resources to put on curseforge soon |
| 16:08.10 | sylvanaar_work | i should say "Das is kein problem!" |
| 16:08.35 | Humbedooh | Kaelten: hey you! you fix! nao! |
| 16:08.36 | Lulia | Well it's edited and a new file uploaded |
| 16:08.41 | sylvanaar_work | s/is/ist/ |
| 16:08.42 | Lulia | Project is telling me I have no files though |
| 16:08.48 | nevcairiel | Lulia: that looks better :) |
| 16:09.15 | Humbedooh | Lulia: what it means is "you have no beta or release versions" |
| 16:09.29 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i can only offer again, i'm sure there are many of us here that would be willing to help, if you let us :p |
| 16:09.35 | sylvanaar_work | someone was saying you fixed the packager Kaelten - did you? |
| 16:09.40 | Kaelten | sylvanaar_work: maybe? |
| 16:09.43 | Slayman | Humbedooh: not to rain on your parade but interactive in german has only like inactive and deactivated as it's opposite |
| 16:09.43 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 16:10.06 | sylvanaar_work | Kaelten: thats usually what i say too |
| 16:10.12 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: yeah.... :) |
| 16:10.15 | nevcairiel | interactive doesnt really have a opposite, short of non-interactive |
| 16:10.23 | Humbedooh | Slayman: that's the bitch in all languages :p there's no real antonym to it |
| 16:10.29 | nevcairiel | its still active, just not interactive :p |
| 16:10.40 | Slayman | ~whalenuke interactive |
| 16:10.40 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around interactive with his mind powers. |
| 16:10.43 | Slayman | done |
| 16:12.10 | Lulia | Humbedooh, I do have two beta versions! |
| 16:12.46 | Humbedooh | link or it didn't happen ;o |
| 16:13.24 | nevcairiel | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/files/ |
| 16:13.27 | nevcairiel | 2 files! |
| 16:13.52 | Lulia | Who wants to see a funny image?? |
| 16:13.57 | sylvanaar_work | i have 2 awesome addons in the approval queue...wink wink, i need to code them |
| 16:14.09 | nevcairiel | so code them! |
| 16:14.11 | sylvanaar_work | i have nothing to do at work today... |
| 16:14.24 | nevcairiel | repos exist before thigns are approved |
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| 16:14.36 | nevcairiel | or should, anyway |
| 16:14.59 | Slayman | sylvanaar_work: improve your addons if possible, work towards either world peace or world domination, whichever strikes your fance |
| 16:15.05 | Slayman | s/fance/fancy/ |
| 16:15.08 | Sorha | nev would you be able to alter the url of my project? |
| 16:15.15 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 16:15.28 | Lulia | http://s766.photobucket.com/albums/xx304/ChocoGoob/Screenshots/Power%20Bars/ |
| 16:15.54 | Lulia | oops |
| 16:15.55 | Lulia | http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx304/ChocoGoob/Screenshots/Power%20Bars/PowerBars-EclipseHUGE.jpg |
| 16:16.06 | Lulia | hehehe |
| 16:16.22 | Lulia | In case you REALLY wanted to see your Eclipse bar |
| 16:16.26 | Sorha | Renamed it because its name was to similar to another. Was just going to go with /sorhaquestlog/ now http://www.wowace.com/addons/jquest/ |
| 16:16.30 | nevcairiel | i like that, will never miss my eclipse again |
| 16:16.47 | Sorha | needs to be bigger :O |
| 16:17.04 | nevcairiel | @project sorhaquestlog |
| 16:17.05 | Repo | nevcairiel: "http://www.wowace.com/addons/sorhaquestlog/. SorhaQuestLog. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Concerned about this one because there is another addon already existing named J(ason)Quest. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9561-JasonQuest.html\r \r Was wondering if you'd potentially be w. Sorha2 (Manager/Author). Updated: 46 hours ago" |
| 16:17.29 | Sorha | Thanks :) |
| 16:17.33 | Slayman | prostitutes in spain are to wear neon-colored high visibility jackets . beats undies in terms of visibility |
| 16:17.44 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 07master * 1.11-1-ge6bc488 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added option to limit the width of the name. |
| 16:17.56 | Lulia | luckily |
| 16:18.02 | sylvanaar_work | so everyone who works at the airport in spain is a prostitute |
| 16:18.04 | Humbedooh | only in one county, Slayman :p and only on the freeway :\ |
| 16:18.05 | Lulia | The reset works now, in case you make it too big |
| 16:18.37 | Lulia | http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx304/ChocoGoob/Screenshots/Power%20Bars/PowerBars-EclipseHUGELunar.jpg |
| 16:18.48 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 041.12 * 88c6349 /: [new tag] Tagging |
| 16:18.56 | Slayman | Humbedooh: both still in spain, I neither said all prostitutes nor in all of spain, so I set up a trap for you Spiegel online reader ]:-> |
| 16:19.01 | Lulia | You can also see the mana bar in that image, not terribly interesting yet, but I'll add some options |
| 16:19.18 | Humbedooh | I didn't read spiegel :\ |
| 16:19.22 | nevcairiel | i'll keep my mana bar to my unit frame |
| 16:19.31 | Lulia | Luckily, you can turn it off |
| 16:19.32 | Lulia | ;) |
| 16:19.39 | Slayman | Humbedooh: and yet you sprung my trap |
| 16:20.12 | Humbedooh | it won't hold up in court, Slayman!! |
| 16:20.27 | Humbedooh | I'll convince them it's all Torhal's fault |
| 16:20.30 | Lulia | So, uh, I noticed the "no files" is not there now. Is there something I need to do in the future to make sure the most current version is up? |
| 16:20.45 | Slayman | No convincing needed, it IS all Torhals fault |
| 16:20.50 | nevcairiel | files need to be approved |
| 16:20.53 | Humbedooh | agrees |
| 16:20.59 | nevcairiel | depending on how bored some moderator is, it may take a while |
| 16:21.15 | Lulia | eww |
| 16:21.24 | Lulia | I'll make sure to bug you then! ;) |
| 16:21.36 | Parnic|Work | nevcairiel: i assume files built by the packager are auto-approved since i've never had to mess with it. is that right? |
| 16:21.55 | Slayman | did I tell you that I managed to punch a hole in my cheap Ikea coffeetable upon losing in Super Street Fighter 4 , made me feel like bruce lee all of a sudden! |
| 16:21.56 | sylvanaar_work | i wonder |
| 16:21.59 | Lulia | Hmm, I imagine I'll need to add the meta tags to my toc file in order to get the addon to work with the Curse installer? |
| 16:22.01 | sylvanaar_work | @project chateventmanager |
| 16:22.02 | Repo | sylvanaar_work: No project found that matches 'chateventmanager' |
| 16:22.12 | sylvanaar_work | @project chat-event-manager |
| 16:22.13 | Repo | 10ready-check-announcer: 03mikk * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 16:22.15 | Repo | More or less complete rewrite: |
| 16:22.16 | Repo | - Will now intelligently ignore afk/offline people in g3+ (6-18 raid size) or g6+ (19-34 raid size) and not wait for them |
| 16:22.17 | Repo | - Will still announce people in those groups saying "no" though! |
| 16:22.18 | Repo | - Raid officers will now announce if raid leader does not have ReadyCheckAnnouncer.lua |
| 16:22.24 | Repo | sylvanaar_work: No project found that matches 'chat-event-manager' |
| 16:22.44 | sylvanaar_work | i miss that addon |
| 16:23.11 | pompy | sylvanaar_work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/tickets/470-deathknight/ lol |
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| 16:23.13 | pompy | ok |
| 16:23.21 | nevcairiel | Parnic|Work: right |
| 16:23.24 | Lulia | Yes, no, maybe? |
| 16:23.36 | nevcairiel | Lulia: no, there is no magic involved |
| 16:23.38 | Repo | 10ready-check-announcer: 03mikk * r36 ReadyCheckAnnouncer.toc: Move to straight revision versioning |
| 16:23.56 | Repo | 10ready-check-announcer: 03mikk 04r36-release * r37 : Tagging as r36-release |
| 16:24.17 | Lulia | Oh, I thought there were specific meta tags needed |
| 16:24.31 | Lulia | Boo, my Addon doesn't show up in the Curse client ;) |
| 16:24.38 | nevcairiel | Lulia: i have a small request though, make the eclipse bar hide when i'm not in moonkin or caster form, like the default uis bar does :) |
| 16:24.42 | nevcairiel | Lulia: takes a while |
| 16:25.10 | Lulia | You mean when you're in feral? |
| 16:25.18 | nevcairiel | cat, bear, fly, travel |
| 16:25.20 | nevcairiel | whatever :) |
| 16:25.31 | Lulia | I'll put it into 0.4 |
| 16:25.51 | Lulia | It'll be an option though |
| 16:26.06 | Lulia | So you'll have to turn it on :P |
| 16:26.15 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:26.36 | Lulia | I'm a firm believer in options as much as possible :D |
| 16:26.51 | Lulia | I probably drive myself to death making sure something is an option instead of forcing it on someone |
| 16:26.58 | Lulia | ;) |
| 16:27.14 | nevcairiel | btw; local form = GetShapeshiftFormID(); if form == MOONKIN_FORM or not form then --show bar-- else --hide-- end |
| 16:27.18 | nevcairiel | i pseudo coded it for you! |
| 16:27.30 | pb_ee1 | Be careful or you're gonna do another Perl Unit Frames :D |
| 16:27.32 | Fisker | what the fuck Megalon |
| 16:27.33 | nevcairiel | (MOONKIN_FORM is actually a constant in the game) |
| 16:27.35 | Fisker | what! |
| 16:28.58 | sylvanaar_work | i wish CC tickets would automatically subscribe the submitter to updates |
| 16:29.15 | nevcairiel | the subscription system sadly doesnt allow per-ticket subscriptions |
| 16:29.18 | Parnic|Work | we totally already had that discussion today :P |
| 16:29.24 | nevcairiel | users would be somewhat annoyed at all tickets :p |
| 16:29.25 | Lulia | GetShapeshiftForm returns different values |
| 16:29.47 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 16:29.47 | Lulia | Depending on what forms you have available to you |
| 16:29.47 | Lulia | Sadly |
| 16:29.47 | Lulia | So it's a bit more work than that. |
| 16:29.47 | nevcairiel | thats why GetShapeshiftFormID |
| 16:29.47 | Lulia | Oh |
| 16:29.48 | nevcairiel | constant values |
| 16:30.48 | Mikk | the subscription system should totally auto-send to people submitting the tickets |
| 16:30.52 | Mikk | it's stupid that it does not |
| 16:31.03 | sylvanaar_work | and tickets should expire |
| 16:31.10 | Mikk | eh |
| 16:31.22 | sylvanaar_work | unless the submitter updates it |
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| 16:31.31 | Lulia | That function isn't on WoWPedia |
| 16:31.33 | Lulia | :( |
| 16:31.37 | Lulia | Stupid wowpedia |
| 16:31.38 | nevcairiel | Mikk: like i said, it would only really make sense if you had per-ticket subscriptions, or people would go nuts on your poor support people |
| 16:31.45 | nevcairiel | !api GetShapeshiftFormID |
| 16:31.45 | lua_bot | GetShapeshiftFormID: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetShapeshiftFormID) |
| 16:31.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:32.01 | quiescens | i don't suppose they made a similar change for thingy |
| 16:32.02 | quiescens | macros |
| 16:32.10 | Mikk | nevcairiel: per-ticket subscriptions would also be nice of course.. but at a bare minimum, it should also post to the person submitting the ticket |
| 16:32.14 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar_work: sorry I know i'm asking quite a lot of questions these days, but did you see my notice and/or recent question on players color classes on an CHAT_MSG_EMOTE event? |
| 16:32.27 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 16:32.51 | quiescens | [form:x] where x depends on whether you have laserchicken form was pretty silly back in the day |
| 16:32.52 | pb_ee1 | woki. You're probably starting to hate me then ;p |
| 16:33.03 | nevcairiel | Lulia: it just returns a unique id, you can see the ids (and their constants) on the bottom of Constants.lua in the default UI |
| 16:33.23 | sylvanaar_work | no, not at all - i just cant do anything about it right now really |
| 16:33.24 | nevcairiel | quiescens: thats why you use [bonusbar:x], those are constant for the forms |
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| 16:33.34 | nevcairiel | Lulia: also, returns nil in caster form ;) |
| 16:33.44 | quiescens | nevcairiel: and if you're detecting, say, flight form? |
| 16:33.46 | Lulia | I assumed that from your psuedo code |
| 16:33.47 | Lulia | ;) |
| 16:34.00 | nevcairiel | i shall go document on wowp |
| 16:34.10 | Lulia | I was about to do that |
| 16:34.11 | Lulia | lol |
| 16:34.11 | quiescens | and didn't laserchicken form just use the default bar, i forget |
| 16:34.12 | Lulia | ;) |
| 16:34.20 | Lulia | I'd probably make errors though |
| 16:34.21 | Lulia | :D |
| 16:34.21 | nevcairiel | quiescens: they gave it a page as well |
| 16:34.25 | Lulia | I'll just add it to the main page |
| 16:34.36 | nevcairiel | i mean wowprogramming, not pedia |
| 16:34.44 | Mikk | muaha |
| 16:34.52 | Mikk | all is good then if one does each =) |
| 16:35.02 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar_work: I'm not really asking to do anything about it, was willing to confirm that you DO have this separate configuration when displaying EMOTES and other events that are handled by Prat, or not |
| 16:35.27 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 16:35.39 | pb_ee1 | Because if there is, you might be willing to handle them back in Prat to display the player class color yourself depending on the Prat config |
| 16:35.48 | sylvanaar_work | theres an event whitelist |
| 16:35.56 | pb_ee1 | And if so, it changes what I have to do in Elephant ;) |
| 16:36.35 | sylvanaar_work | the events really dont change |
| 16:36.53 | Lulia | Ah, I'll add it to wowpedia then :P |
| 16:36.56 | sylvanaar_work | i know emotes are a pain, i dont like processing them |
| 16:37.00 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 16:37.08 | Lulia | There's only three forms returned as constants? |
| 16:38.02 | pb_ee1 | That's no problem! I didn't know if you were aware of that particular thing. Typically, a user choosing to display players class colors in Prat may not see it when an emote is displayed if he/she didn't check the option in normal WoW options |
| 16:38.24 | sylvanaar_work | oh really |
| 16:39.18 | pb_ee1 | If this behavior is known of you, then I just want to know your decision about changing the list of events handled by Prat (to fix or not to fix that) |
| 16:39.28 | pb_ee1 | Depending on that, I'll do my code on Elephant |
| 16:40.02 | sylvanaar_work | oh, you mean am I planning on changing the list? |
| 16:40.22 | sylvanaar_work | i dont think so |
| 16:40.40 | pb_ee1 | Yep :] Because if you do I'll just let Prat do its stuff, otherwise I have to color it myself |
| 16:40.42 | pb_ee1 | That's it ;p |
| 16:42.08 | nevcairiel | Lulia: only 3 forms are in the constants lua, yes, but all return numbers anyway =) |
| 16:42.13 | sylvanaar_work | this is interesting http://pastebin.ca/1978392 |
| 16:42.28 | sylvanaar_work | someone must be doing a bug report tool |
| 16:42.41 | nevcairiel | Lulia: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetShapeshiftFormID |
| 16:42.46 | nevcairiel | steal the values, if you want ^ |
| 16:43.17 | pb_ee1 | Thanks for your confirmation! |
| 16:43.55 | durcyn | sylvanaar_work: unfortunate choice of test strings, then. |
| 16:44.23 | sylvanaar_work | oh god |
| 16:44.28 | sylvanaar_work | i didnt even read it |
| 16:46.17 | sylvanaar_work | i have toyed on and off with writing one |
| 16:46.35 | sylvanaar_work | but, it would require an auto-submit tool |
| 16:47.18 | sylvanaar_work | i have actually written a few |
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| 16:48.29 | sylvanaar_work | makes me want to write another one |
| 16:48.41 | sylvanaar_work | in java maybe |
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| 16:50.27 | sylvanaar_work | be awesome if CC could just dump all the swatter and buggrabber files in a big database. but too many privacy issues |
| 16:52.39 | Sorha | Is there a way to make a template for a SecureAuraHeaderTemplate without xml? >.> |
| 16:52.48 | Lulia | So GetShapeshiftFormID will return the form regardless of level because of the constants? |
| 16:57.31 | DWSR | yes |
| 16:57.35 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2941 / (2 files in 2 directories): - ring of law fix |
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| 17:00.55 | Lulia | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_GetShapeshiftFormID |
| 17:01.06 | Lulia | If you see any issues, feel free to fix them, but do let me know so I can learn from it |
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| 17:01.52 | Ackis | back from my meeting, I lost any PM's people sent me because my work PC sucks. |
| 17:02.05 | Ackis | and by sucks I mean I'm blaming Parnic|Work |
| 17:06.12 | Parnic|Work | oh sure, always blame me |
| 17:06.27 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 17:06.29 | Shirik | I sent you a message |
| 17:06.32 | Shirik | it said I love you |
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| 17:09.50 | Ackis | Shirik: don't lie |
| 17:09.59 | Shirik | :( |
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| 17:17.02 | sylvanaar_work | Shirik has earned the achievement [I Has An Emoticon] |
| 17:17.13 | Shirik | :/ |
| 17:17.28 | sylvanaar_work | next achievement at 100 |
| 17:17.36 | Shirik | :\ |
| 17:17.37 | Shirik | :[ |
| 17:17.39 | Shirik | :-[ |
| 17:17.44 | Shirik | I give up |
| 17:17.47 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 17:17.51 | Shirik | gd achievements why are they so hard |
| 17:17.58 | ShadniX | nerf them! |
| 17:18.02 | Shirik | why can't they be like Halo where you get an achievement for existing |
| 17:18.05 | durcyn | Shirik has learned Emotion, Shirik's skill in Emotion has increased to 2. |
| 17:18.28 | sylvanaar_work | :- |
| 17:19.51 | sylvanaar_work | [One Name Many Faces] Shirik's progress 5/100 |
| 17:20.25 | sylvanaar_work | you should program shibot to have achievments Shirik |
| 17:21.18 | sylvanaar_work | i think i am going to give YouTrack another go |
| 17:22.30 | sylvanaar_work | http://blogs.jetbrains.com/youtrack/2010/10/youtrack-celebrates-its-first-birthday-by-opening-energy-eap/ |
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| 17:25.08 | sylvanaar_work | <- jetbrains fanboi |
| 17:28.46 | Ackis | Shirik: cheat at them |
| 17:28.59 | Ackis | lua> for i = 1,100,1 do print(":)") end |
| 17:29.00 | lua_bot | Ackis: :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), :), ... (result truncated) |
| 17:29.06 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 17:29.14 | quiescens | :) |
| 17:29.30 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis has earned the achievement [One Name Many Faces] |
| 17:29.38 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:29.42 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar_work: There's no way when triggering the Prat.Events.POST_ADDMESSAGE to know if the message will have a timestamp appended to it in the ChatFrame, do you confirm? |
| 17:30.08 | sylvanaar_work | that sounds right |
| 17:30.43 | sylvanaar_work | although - it is after the addmessage call |
| 17:30.48 | sylvanaar_work | so i guess there is |
| 17:30.57 | pb_ee1 | Hum... just checking the parameters given |
| 17:31.04 | pb_ee1 | Ha, got the frame so there should be a way to know |
| 17:31.34 | pb_ee1 | What's the Prat.loading value btw? |
| 17:31.47 | sylvanaar_work | it prevents timestamping |
| 17:32.10 | sylvanaar_work | its for loading the chatframes with historical text |
| 17:32.40 | sylvanaar_work | that already has timestamps |
| 17:32.57 | sylvanaar_work | scrollback is a good examples |
| 17:33.04 | sylvanaar_work | s/les/le |
| 17:33.09 | sylvanaar_work | s/les/le/ |
| 17:33.12 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 17:33.36 | pb_ee1 | lol |
| 17:33.52 | durcyn | owned. |
| 17:33.59 | pb_ee1 | ha, see. |
| 17:35.27 | Lulia | lezbot? |
| 17:35.37 | sylvanaar_work | havent you seen Blue Harvest |
| 17:35.51 | Lulia | no? |
| 17:36.09 | Killmore | anyone else notice elemental invasion started in outlands ? I just notice it doing a daily in bc |
| 17:36.12 | sylvanaar_work | its from there |
| 17:36.27 | sylvanaar_work | R2D2's sister |
| 17:36.56 | sylvanaar_work | "she's a lesbot" |
| 17:37.28 | sylvanaar_work | omg i have been here 8 hours. im ready to go home |
| 17:37.44 | sylvanaar_work | wtb more interesting job |
| 17:38.02 | kagaro | wtb any job right now |
| 17:38.37 | sylvanaar_work | i wish someone would pay me to work on this Lua IDE |
| 17:38.45 | sylvanaar_work | its so much fun writing it |
| 17:40.07 | Lulia | I wish someone would pay me to write my AddOn! I don't have a job :( |
| 17:41.17 | sylvanaar_work | you know what Ackis |
| 17:41.42 | sylvanaar_work | lua_bot has earned the achievement [One Name Many Faces] |
| 17:42.15 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:42.28 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
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| 17:42.46 | sylvanaar_work | i left my phone and my ipad at home |
| 17:42.49 | sylvanaar_work | i feel naked |
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| 17:43.49 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r681 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-goldspam update |
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| 17:50.24 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 17:50.33 | Lulia | Level 29 Paladin, decided to go Prot for the easy queues |
| 17:50.42 | Lulia | And I'm a fairly experienced tank, just not as a pally |
| 17:50.51 | Lulia | Anyways, last point to spend is tough |
| 17:51.15 | Lulia | I can put iti n Hallowed Ground, Sanctuary, Hammer of the Righteous, or Wrath of the Lightbringer :( |
| 17:51.38 | nevcairiel | lua> math.random(4) |
| 17:51.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1 |
| 17:51.43 | nevcairiel | hallowed ground it is |
| 17:51.46 | Ackis | Hallowed Ground |
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| 17:52.26 | sylvanaar_work | or whichever one you were hoping it would be |
| 17:53.34 | Lulia | Definitely Hallowed Ground? |
| 17:53.41 | Parnic|Work | heh. flipping a coin is the best method to make decisions...not because it will give you your answer, but because as soon as you flip it you immediately know what you want the answer to be |
| 17:53.44 | nevcairiel | i just randomed it |
| 17:53.47 | nevcairiel | i have no idea :P |
| 17:53.48 | Lulia | :-/ |
| 17:53.52 | nevcairiel | and low levels, spec is not important anyway |
| 17:53.54 | Lulia | They're all so useful |
| 17:53.57 | Lulia | Well |
| 17:54.01 | Lulia | This is sort of important |
| 17:54.12 | Lulia | Since I'm sure Paladin AoE is sort of awful until a certain level |
| 17:54.33 | Lulia | And then Sanctuary could be important because I'm not sure what Prot Paladin mana regen is like at low levels either |
| 17:54.43 | Humbedooh | sylvanaar: http://dudelol.com/DO-NOT-HOTLINK-IMAGES/When-faced-with-two-possible-choices-simply-flip-a-coin.jpg indeed |
| 17:54.43 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r185 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): -fix Tidal Waves module file name |
| 17:54.45 | nevcairiel | you worry too much |
| 17:54.50 | nevcairiel | its level 29, its easy |
| 17:55.18 | Humbedooh | bah, parnic beat me to it :\ |
| 17:55.48 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r28 / (6 files in 3 directories): * Added focus target health/power rings |
| 17:55.49 | Repo | * Added option to hide blizzard focus frame (known "bug": after enabling the Blizzard focus target frame again, it is not refreshed (i.e. it is not shown) - changing targets should bring it up again) |
| 17:56.25 | Lulia | Aggro at low levels is sort of a big deal :P |
| 17:56.38 | Lulia | I've been leveling a Prot Warrior too, and if you don't do it right, it shows |
| 17:57.16 | Rokiyo | Lulia: Hammer of the Righteous for sure |
| 17:57.27 | Rokiyo | it does AoE threat |
| 17:57.35 | Rokiyo | on a 4.5s cooldown |
| 17:57.46 | nevcairiel | If your playing sucks, it shows, not if your talents suck :p |
| 17:57.52 | nevcairiel | you have like, 10 points at that level |
| 17:58.13 | Lulia | 11* |
| 17:58.16 | nevcairiel | no crucial spells |
| 17:58.28 | Rokiyo | the hardest thing about tanking lowbie dungeons on live is maintaining aoe threat |
| 17:58.33 | Lulia | Yup |
| 17:58.40 | Lulia | Which is why I was leaning towards Hammer |
| 17:58.42 | nevcairiel | do classes even have aoe abilities that low :P |
| 17:58.48 | Lulia | I just didn't want to find I was running out of mana constantly |
| 17:58.50 | Lulia | Yes, Nev |
| 17:58.51 | nevcairiel | and even if tehy do, teach em to play single target |
| 17:58.51 | Rokiyo | some do, some don't |
| 17:58.56 | nevcairiel | we did it in classic too |
| 17:58.58 | Lulia | In fact, I pretty much chain pull instances on my prot warrior |
| 17:58.59 | nevcairiel | and we liked it |
| 17:59.13 | Lulia | On my Warrior chain pulling is pretty much necessary |
| 17:59.16 | Lulia | Or I never have rage :( |
| 17:59.27 | Rokiyo | lol nev, classic dungeons are now run a lot like heroic 80s were run... round up huge packs and aoe |
| 17:59.38 | Lulia | Pretty much |
| 17:59.48 | Lulia | Depends on how competent your healer is though |
| 17:59.48 | nevcairiel | so let them die and teach them |
| 17:59.51 | Rokiyo | it's super fast, if your tank can manage to hold on to everything |
| 17:59.51 | nevcairiel | thats the tanks job :) |
| 17:59.53 | Lulia | You get the noob healer sometimes |
| 18:00.04 | Rokiyo | yep, lol |
| 18:00.08 | Lulia | I've actually hit the dungeon cap before at low levels |
| 18:00.11 | Lulia | Doing fast SM runs |
| 18:00.26 | Lulia | Graveyard in particular |
| 18:00.29 | Rokiyo | nev: why would you drive at 5mph when the speed limit is 50? :P |
| 18:00.33 | Lulia | That place is so incredibly short. |
| 18:00.35 | Rokiyo | we aoe grind the lowbie dungeons cos we can |
| 18:00.37 | Rokiyo | and cos it's fun :P |
| 18:00.42 | thelibrarian | everyone does stupid dps at low levels now, and heals hit for 1/2 - 3/4 of everyone's health |
| 18:00.46 | Lulia | Well, the way I see it is this: |
| 18:00.46 | nevcairiel | aoe tanking was never fun |
| 18:00.49 | nevcairiel | its brain dead stupid |
| 18:00.55 | Lulia | The dungeons get progressively more difficult. |
| 18:01.02 | Mikk | until wotlk |
| 18:01.06 | Mikk | when they get progressively more stupid |
| 18:01.08 | nevcairiel | go tank shattered halls on a warrior, in 2.0 BC |
| 18:01.09 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr 040.9 beta 3 * r29 : Tagging as 0.9 beta 3 |
| 18:01.11 | nevcairiel | now that, that was fun |
| 18:01.16 | Mikk | =) |
| 18:01.20 | Lulia | By the time I hit outlands, I wont be chain pulling as much |
| 18:01.28 | thelibrarian | nevcairiel: thanks a lot. I was repressing those memories |
| 18:01.28 | Lulia | If someone needs to learn how to play, they'll learn |
| 18:01.44 | Lulia | But I'm not going to spend extra time leveling in dungeons when I want to level as fast as I can ;) |
| 18:01.46 | nevcairiel | I liked it, it was challenging |
| 18:01.54 | nevcairiel | not some stupid button facerolling on the aoe keys |
| 18:02.03 | Mikk | i hope cata dungeons get harder |
| 18:02.04 | Lulia | Doing low-level dungeons in a non-aoe pull way is actually not challenging right now |
| 18:02.06 | Ackis | sylvanaar: the font you use in prat, someone ripped it out for their own font addon, is that "bad"? |
| 18:02.10 | Mikk | and don't get nerfed to pieces when people whine :S |
| 18:02.10 | Rokiyo | ok, sorry... let me rephrase: aoe tanking the incredibly long vanilla dungeons is more fun than spending several hours per run :P |
| 18:02.17 | Lulia | It's actually more challenging for me to pull a couple packs |
| 18:02.21 | Lulia | And make sure that mobs dont get lose |
| 18:02.27 | thelibrarian | most BC heroics were challenging and fun. shattered halls however was head-desk inducing on a warrior :) |
| 18:02.34 | Lulia | Since the AoE buttons don't always stick for the 1 or 2 guys who DO single target |
| 18:02.52 | Parnic|Work | i'm gonna go ahead and say it's not the tank's job to hold tons of enemies at once. it's the tank's job to hold one enemy and not die |
| 18:02.57 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r208 Interface.lua: |
| 18:02.58 | Repo | Removing local variable, replacing by function(), thanks Mikk! |
| 18:02.58 | Parnic|Work | it's the dps's job to make sure they're killing the main target |
| 18:03.05 | Lulia | I agree, Parnic |
| 18:03.08 | Parnic|Work | which is especially important with the recent aoe nerfs |
| 18:03.09 | Lulia | But it's 4 to 1 |
| 18:03.15 | nevcairiel | let them die |
| 18:03.24 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r209 Message.lua: Adding timestamp BEFORE message xD |
| 18:03.31 | Rokiyo | it's the tank's job to keep aggro off the healer :P |
| 18:03.40 | Lulia | I don't want to get voted out of a run and lose my chance at the end of the run exp bonus when I can get aggro anyways |
| 18:03.49 | nevcairiel | you can keep healing aggro with the occasional thunder clap |
| 18:03.49 | Parnic|Work | rokiyo: healer aggro is practically non-existent |
| 18:03.53 | Lulia | It makes me look like a hero, and it's a bit more challenging in the first place. |
| 18:04.33 | Parnic|Work | the only time i pull aggro on my priest is when i shield too late and enemies are already coming at the tank |
| 18:04.39 | Rokiyo | we're talking about lowbie dungeons here, where healers usually tops damage taken when the tank uses single target moves only |
| 18:04.49 | Parnic|Work | i didn't say only :P |
| 18:04.57 | Rokiyo | i'm talking about levels 15-30 :P |
| 18:05.10 | Rokiyo | and i'm been scarred by my attempts to heal them |
| 18:05.14 | Parnic|Work | it's the same at 80 as it is 15-30 |
| 18:05.20 | Parnic|Work | you're being scarred by players not knowing how to play |
| 18:05.26 | Rokiyo | lol |
| 18:05.29 | Rokiyo | fair enough |
| 18:05.42 | Baps | every time I pug, I'm reminded how spoiled I am by being in a guild full of pretty damn good players |
| 18:06.05 | thelibrarian | disc preist is easy though. Pw:S absorbs almost 1/3 of their HP pool, pop that on before the pull and by the time they need healing they have solid aggro |
| 18:06.09 | thelibrarian | druid you're sol though :D |
| 18:06.12 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r210 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:06.13 | Repo | - Totally removing Force timestamp option, not needed anymore due to how Prat handles timestamps now (i.e. not in message sent in event anymore) |
| 18:06.14 | nevcairiel | I pug as a healer, in 5 and 10 mans, i can pretty much control the succcess of the group, unless they are total morons |
| 18:06.14 | Repo | - Removing associated locales |
| 18:06.48 | Baps | there's not much better healing training than doing a ton of pugs.. the more chaotic they are, the better training itis |
| 18:07.01 | Baps | but as a dps, it's frustrating |
| 18:07.51 | nevcairiel | I dont like playing dps in groups |
| 18:07.53 | nevcairiel | its boring |
| 18:08.10 | Shefki | http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2010/11/sanest-of-the-sane-top-25-signs-from-the-stewartcolbert-rally.php?img=1 |
| 18:08.26 | Shefki | That flag is pure win. |
| 18:08.44 | thelibrarian | I like healing better, but I do have a lot of fun on my mage, trying to see if I can kill the mob before it gets to me after I pull aggro off the tank :P |
| 18:09.16 | nevcairiel | I like playing dps solo, and even the occasional 5man pug |
| 18:09.22 | nevcairiel | but not in anything serious |
| 18:09.43 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Pound those keys harder. |
| 18:10.37 | thelibrarian | dps can be fun in raids as long as (a) you're with a group of friends and not pugs, and the damage meters don't matter _that_ much, and (b) you get to do the fun utility stuff like kiting and such |
| 18:10.47 | Baps | I find it easier to lead raids while DPS than when I'm healing.. but part of that is that I've been DPS since the first MMO I ever played and it's less reactive to me than healing is |
| 18:11.01 | Baps | so I have more spare bandwidth for raid management than I do when healing |
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| 18:11.17 | thelibrarian | Baps: that's probably true, I noticed I healed noticably worse after I started raid leading, and it got better when I took a break and made somebody else do it |
| 18:11.23 | Shefki | Raid leading as a healer sucks. |
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| 18:12.38 | nevcairiel | I used to raid lead as a healer, was fine |
| 18:13.09 | Pneumatus | i hate raid leading as a healer |
| 18:13.09 | nevcairiel | helped me to keep my attention on the game, and not drop into the whack-a-mole trance |
| 18:13.16 | Baps | not saying it's impossible.. just that healing isn't as natural to me so I don't have as much attention to spare for the raid |
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| 18:13.36 | Mikk | bleh for raidleading as healer |
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| 18:13.51 | nevcairiel | everyone wants the easy way out, eh |
| 18:13.59 | Pneumatus | for progress encounters i don't have time to raid lead as a healer, im spending all my time looking at why things went wrong and tweaking other healers |
| 18:14.00 | Mikk | well actually i did do it as pally |
| 18:14.17 | Mikk | but i spend too much time facerolling rejuv as druid, don't have the time to watch where people are standing etc |
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| 18:14.45 | nevcairiel | well we never had one guy solo-lead, was always at least 2 |
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| 18:16.31 | Pneumatus | and yeh, same with Mikk, midfight the last thing i can spare my attention for is watching people doing stupid shit |
| 18:16.56 | thelibrarian | it depends a lot on your raid. if you have to handhold the group a lot like mine, then it's harder to do as a healer |
| 18:16.57 | Pneumatus | leave that to a DPS that only has the job of watching pretty numbers while they faecrol their rotation off |
| 18:17.04 | Baps | exactly. =) |
| 18:18.24 | quiescens | purty numbers |
| 18:18.35 | nevcairiel | our raid leads were in total 2 healers (both druids), one tank (also druid), and a ret pally .. we let the pally usually do the in-fight shouting |
| 18:18.41 | nevcairiel | well, he also had the shouting attitude :p |
| 18:19.33 | thelibrarian | 10/25 also makes a big difference there, imo |
| 18:19.48 | nevcairiel | 25 of course, if you need handholding in 10man, you're doing it wrong |
| 18:20.00 | thelibrarian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.17 | thelibrarian | in 25 man though you can usually depend on at least 5-7 idiots being there, unless you're uber elite |
| 18:20.39 | Baps | our guild leader is a tank, the two primary raid leaders during fights are a melee and a ranged dps.. and we've got two healers that manage healing before fights, cooldowns and post-fight healing analysis |
| 18:22.10 | thelibrarian | healing got kind of dumb once the icc zone buffs started rolling in though. eventually my healing assignments devolved into "heal whoever isn't full" when someone would ask |
| 18:22.16 | thelibrarian | ulduar was a lot more challenging |
| 18:23.09 | nevcairiel | healing was dumb all ever since end of ulduar |
| 18:23.11 | Mikk | "druid1 heal g2+g3, druid2 heal g4+g5, pally heal tank, rest ffa" |
| 18:23.23 | thelibrarian | shaman mash chain heal |
| 18:23.48 | thelibrarian | though I seem to remember that particular one happening in sunwell too :p |
| 18:23.51 | nevcairiel | i actually quit playing at the end of ulduar because i couldnt stand the dumb healing anymore, i hope it stays interesting in cata <.< |
| 18:24.31 | thelibrarian | I'm kind of split on it. I would like healing to require some thought and skill again, but I don't like the idea of the success of the entire raid being balanced around healer's mana pools |
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| 18:25.23 | nevcairiel | thats how it always should've been |
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| 18:25.35 | Slayman | raidleading is for women! |
| 18:25.40 | Slayman | they can multitask |
| 18:25.42 | nevcairiel | putting it on split-second reactions and somehow avoiding dmg spikes is just silly |
| 18:25.48 | thelibrarian | things like timing a big heal to land a split second after fusion punch finishes casting for instance |
| 18:25.56 | thelibrarian | you can plan that, but it's not a "don't run oom" challenge |
| 18:26.07 | nevcairiel | its not like most fights are predictable like that |
| 18:26.26 | nevcairiel | and you probably will still need to do that |
| 18:26.43 | nevcairiel | but having to use more efficient heals instead of the fast super heal is good |
| 18:26.50 | nevcairiel | spamming rejuv on everyone is so stupid boring |
| 18:27.08 | thelibrarian | sadly that was still broken on beta even very recently |
| 18:27.18 | thelibrarian | rejuv proccing revitalize |
| 18:27.29 | arkanes | revitalize needs to just go away |
| 18:27.32 | Slayman | nevcairiel: Man I have memories of healing patchwerk, the real one back in vanilla, where it was a REAL friggin deal to cast and not abort the right heals |
| 18:27.33 | nevcairiel | its beta, bugs will be bugs, and will be fixed |
| 18:27.37 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: poke |
| 18:27.56 | Funkeh` | orly |
| 18:28.01 | thelibrarian | I can't decide if I miss cancel casting or not |
| 18:28.01 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: got spam for you |
| 18:28.07 | Funkeh` | fun |
| 18:28.25 | arkanes | I don't miss cancel casting, but I'm glad that I can cast a 2 second heal without it feeling like I just killed my tank |
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| 18:29.03 | Slayman | Although on occasion I enjoy a round whack-a-mole ICC Edition, but very rarely |
| 18:29.03 | thelibrarian | I do kind of miss downranking, which the new efficient heals sort of bring back a little, but I just worry they'll overdo it and we'll end up having to spam that 99% of the time |
| 18:29.31 | arkanes | at entry level 85 on the beta, you can't afford to cast anything except your efficient heal most of the time |
| 18:29.36 | nevcairiel | from what i've seen in beta, no way. You need the fast heal, and you need the big heal |
| 18:29.49 | arkanes | which is kind of a problem, because the mana disparity between your fast big heal and your slow big heal is not that large |
| 18:30.04 | arkanes | much smaller than the disparity between the efficent one and either of the expensive ones |
| 18:30.34 | thelibrarian | I mostly play a pally though, and I'll very much miss having a "small, _fast_, efficient" heal |
| 18:30.42 | arkanes | it means that you will start out using your efficient heal almost exclusively, but as you gear you will be able to sustain greater use of the big heals, which means that in the end you'll those almost exclusively |
| 18:30.43 | thelibrarian | which didn't get used in woltk, but did in BC quite a bit |
| 18:30.58 | nevcairiel | you miss pressing one button all the time? :) |
| 18:31.00 | arkanes | thelibrarian: thats basically covered by holy shock and wog now |
| 18:31.15 | thelibrarian | sort of, but it feels clunky. probably because of tower lag |
| 18:31.36 | nevcairiel | I healed quite some instances in leveling gear, and i could use all of my heals when i thought i needed them |
| 18:31.38 | nevcairiel | it was fun |
| 18:31.51 | thelibrarian | more than that nevcairiel, gotta use downranked holy lights to keep light's grace up so you can pop off a big one fast when you need it :) |
| 18:31.55 | arkanes | nevcairiel: yes well you are a druid |
| 18:32.18 | arkanes | and druids, even in the beta and even at 85, still have just broken mana regen |
| 18:32.20 | nevcairiel | GC already said that mana regen is not properly balanced |
| 18:32.30 | thelibrarian | yeah, expect druids to be nerfed hard there |
| 18:32.38 | arkanes | I think it's pretty decent for everyone except druids honestly |
| 18:32.43 | thelibrarian | probably rejuv healing done or mana cost too |
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| 18:32.54 | nevcairiel | but in any case, i didnt have enough mana to constantly cast my fast or big heal |
| 18:32.55 | thelibrarian | if I'm reading between the lines in his comments correctly |
| 18:33.13 | nevcairiel | so maybe you need to use your most effective heal in the beginning |
| 18:33.24 | nevcairiel | but i dont see gear bringing you to the point where you can spam the fast heal all the time |
| 18:33.43 | arkanes | I dunno |
| 18:33.50 | arkanes | with mana and throughput being the same stat |
| 18:34.02 | arkanes | I wonder how healing is going to scale, really |
| 18:34.59 | thelibrarian | arkanes: I'd expect most of the "% of max mana" effects to be gutted / reworked to curb that, eventually |
| 18:35.04 | thelibrarian | a lot of them already have |
| 18:35.10 | Mikk | erm it's % of base mana |
| 18:35.20 | arkanes | replen is still very strong |
| 18:35.27 | thelibrarian | there's still a couple that are max, Mikk |
| 18:35.48 | nevcairiel | Mikk: spell cost is base mana, stuff like replenishment and some talents are max mana |
| 18:35.53 | thelibrarian | Archangel, Revitalize, Replenishment |
| 18:36.06 | thelibrarian | to name a few |
| 18:36.25 | thelibrarian | Archangel probably isn't an issue since disc isn't looking that great |
| 18:36.42 | arkanes | there's a high investment to using archangel |
| 18:36.53 | thelibrarian | yeah, and smite healing doesn't look very viable |
| 18:36.55 | arkanes | a non-trivial amount of time and mana put in |
| 18:37.03 | arkanes | it's great in 5 mans, probably not for raids |
| 18:37.10 | thelibrarian | mana tide's already been changed to a spirit buff iirc |
| 18:37.11 | arkanes | tiny, tiny range on the heal means it only hits the melee |
| 18:37.39 | arkanes | so I think archangel is fine, even if disc were really strong |
| 18:37.57 | arkanes | DP is max mana but it's really weak anyway |
| 18:38.04 | thelibrarian | divine plea is only 10% now, and is almost worthless (sometimes worse than worthless) with the 50% mortal strike |
| 18:38.18 | thelibrarian | seal of wisdom aka insight, base mana |
| 18:38.23 | arkanes | I mainly use DP between pulls and/or when I'm drinking |
| 18:38.46 | arkanes | they put 15% max mana regain on judging insight |
| 18:38.52 | arkanes | I don't expect that to stay though |
| 18:38.57 | thelibrarian | I thought that was base mana |
| 18:39.03 | arkanes | eh |
| 18:39.13 | arkanes | I could be misremembering |
| 18:39.37 | nevcairiel | they are still playing with mana regens, there will be some blue posts to clear that up and annoucne the final versions sometime soon, i expect |
| 18:39.51 | nevcairiel | like they did with tanking cooldowns now |
| 18:40.10 | thelibrarian | they'll probably still be tweaking it even after release |
| 18:40.26 | Slayman | I mean don't they have to ship the master in about 2 weeks? not that much time, or we will have to patch once again |
| 18:40.33 | arkanes | they've kind of hinted that they might just rebalance it with each tier |
| 18:40.38 | nevcairiel | you always have to patch on release da |
| 18:40.40 | nevcairiel | day* |
| 18:41.01 | nevcairiel | but with the streaming client, it really does not matter |
| 18:41.03 | arkanes | instead of trying to design something they think will scale between tiers and messing it up |
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| 18:41.09 | thelibrarian | and with the gear requirements, if it works like they want it to, nobody will be raiding for a while after release anyway |
| 18:41.23 | nevcairiel | which is a good thing |
| 18:41.31 | thelibrarian | if you really do have to do normal dungeons -> heroic dungeons -> raids |
| 18:41.44 | nevcairiel | kelthuzad down a week after release was just stupid |
| 18:41.48 | arkanes | heroics are pretty dang hard in leveling gear |
| 18:41.58 | thelibrarian | I'm confident that won't be happening this time |
| 18:42.05 | thelibrarian | the combat rating increases from 80 to 85 are insanely steep |
| 18:42.10 | nevcairiel | yeah, you need some normal dungeon gear to do heroics without trying really really hard |
| 18:42.16 | arkanes | oh god yeah |
| 18:42.17 | nevcairiel | havent done any raids |
| 18:42.21 | Slayman | well if you watched the rep vendors a few raidlvl items are avaible at exalted so you can progress over time into raidgear with very little raiding |
| 18:42.24 | arkanes | level 80 gear is basically useless |
| 18:42.31 | nevcairiel | thelibrarian: its kinda depressing when you do less dmg after a level up :( |
| 18:42.50 | thelibrarian | nevcairiel: what depresses me the most is all the reports of healing level 83 dungeons being easier at level 83 than at level 85 |
| 18:43.04 | arkanes | I'll be going into cata with 4k jp, my plan is to buy as much of the 85 blues that I can (2 pieces), then use LFD heavily to try to get some extra pieces at 85 |
| 18:43.07 | nevcairiel | yeah spell cost increases are insane |
| 18:43.14 | arkanes | thelibrarian: it's much easier at 83 |
| 18:43.14 | nevcairiel | going 83 to 84 nearly doubled them |
| 18:43.23 | arkanes | 84-85 is another doubling |
| 18:43.39 | thelibrarian | kind of sucks to get so much less powerful by gaining a level |
| 18:43.47 | arkanes | especially for pallies, because 83 is when you get divine radience |
| 18:43.57 | thelibrarian | I know it had to be done, but at least in woltk it didn't seem as obvious spread out over 10 levels |
| 18:44.00 | arkanes | but you still have a pretty high mana to spell cost ratio |
| 18:44.03 | nevcairiel | the alternative would've been to increase health pools |
| 18:44.05 | nevcairiel | by alot |
| 18:44.06 | nevcairiel | and dmg |
| 18:44.07 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 18:44.10 | nevcairiel | its easier this way |
| 18:44.13 | nevcairiel | for everyone |
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| 18:45.07 | nevcairiel | i just finished the weird elemental invasion quest series, and i didnt even get a tabard to remember it by! |
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| 18:45.43 | Slayman | nevcairiel: you get a tabard that said: "i just finished the weird elemental invasion quest series, and i didnt even get a tabard to remember it by!" |
| 18:45.57 | thelibrarian | you should get an ilvl 1000 shirt that says that |
| 18:46.53 | nevcairiel | maybe the quest is bugged or something, it seems so cut off |
| 18:46.55 | Pneumatus | is the end of this phase just varian wrynn yelling? |
| 18:47.02 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 18:47.03 | Pneumatus | seems a bit abrupt |
| 18:47.30 | thelibrarian | the new weapon dps normalization is fun, since the tables for it are in the game files now |
| 18:47.47 | thelibrarian | can see that an ilevel 1000 two-handed epic weapon would do 244,650 DPS :p |
| 18:48.08 | arkanes | only 3 expansions away! |
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| 18:48.33 | sylvanaar | Ackis: no they are free fonts |
| 18:48.40 | thelibrarian | hell an ilevel 1000 grey item does 149k base dps |
| 18:48.57 | nevcairiel | did they change the scaling? |
| 18:49.02 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound linear |
| 18:49.06 | sylvanaar | Ackis: what addon is it |
| 18:49.11 | thelibrarian | no idea, i haven't looked to see what the curve is |
| 18:49.18 | thelibrarian | I don't think it's linear |
| 18:49.26 | Slayman | with 29x10^9 that's not that much dmg |
| 18:49.49 | Ackis | sylvanaar: one under review right now http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/chatfonts-plus/ |
| 18:49.50 | thelibrarian | the combat rating ones are even more fun though, since it's by character level |
| 18:50.02 | sylvanaar | plus! |
| 18:50.05 | thelibrarian | and it's real obvious how much they changed it for 80-85, since the level 86 ones are still in there from the old curve :P |
| 18:50.09 | arkanes | thelibrarian: they have the actual tables in the files? |
| 18:50.12 | thelibrarian | yes |
| 18:50.17 | thelibrarian | ItemDamageTwoHand.dbc |
| 18:50.19 | arkanes | man that should make Whitetooth happy |
| 18:50.23 | thelibrarian | ItemDamageOneHandCaster.dbc |
| 18:50.24 | thelibrarian | etc |
| 18:50.28 | sylvanaar | nah, all the fonts i used are free liscense so anyone can use em |
| 18:51.01 | sylvanaar | i never spell license correctly - ever |
| 18:51.29 | arkanes | but if you can detect when you spell it incorrectly, then you can find the correct spelling through simple enumeration |
| 18:51.53 | nevcairiel | lie, sense! |
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| 18:52.43 | Slayman | 's Li sense is tingling! |
| 18:53.18 | sylvanaar | boy 360 got some wierd update today |
| 18:53.25 | thelibrarian | arkanes: and gtCombatRatings.dbc tells us fun thinks like the amount of crit rating needed to gain 1% spell crit at verious levels. 80: 45.9 81: 60.3 82: 59.2 83: 104.0 84: 136.5 85: 180.2 86: 71.2 (!) 87: 76.6 |
| 18:53.29 | thelibrarian | lol |
| 18:53.31 | sylvanaar | guess it must be for kinect |
| 18:53.39 | Slayman | sylvanaar: making it rdy for kinect |
| 18:53.39 | Ackis | sylvanaar: kinect dashboard released finally |
| 18:53.45 | Ackis | it's been in teh beta test for months |
| 18:53.47 | thelibrarian | whoops, typo, level 82 is 79.2 |
| 18:53.57 | sylvanaar | should i get a kinect? |
| 18:54.11 | arkanes | thelibrarian: I don't suppose you have a dump of those somewhere? |
| 18:54.28 | thelibrarian | not at the moment but I can do a dump easily enough if there's a particular table you want |
| 18:54.30 | arkanes | or I guess rating buster is probably updated |
| 18:54.44 | thelibrarian | the combat rating one is all shoved in one table anyway |
| 18:54.50 | nevcairiel | arkanes: those values can easily be determined from within game now |
| 18:54.56 | thelibrarian | indexed by (RatingID-1) * 100 + (Level - 1) |
| 18:55.07 | Slayman | since I'm raping with SSF4 almost exclusively I will not. It depends do you do xbox heavy parties? than it would be a gimmick for sure |
| 18:55.11 | nevcairiel | You just have to be on every level once... |
| 18:55.12 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:55.15 | arkanes | I was going to extend my reforge checks to 85 |
| 18:55.22 | arkanes | nevcairiel: yes there lies the problem :P |
| 18:55.28 | thelibrarian | yeah, it uses the same ID as GetCombatRaiting() |
| 18:55.35 | Ackis | sylvanaar: depends on what you want to do with it IMO |
| 18:55.36 | arkanes | thelibrarian: they're in the tables with just a single decimal digit? |
| 18:55.39 | thelibrarian | no |
| 18:55.47 | thelibrarian | 85 is actually 179.280044556 |
| 18:55.50 | sylvanaar | Ackis: it looks like it only has 15 games |
| 18:55.50 | thelibrarian | I was rounding |
| 18:55.54 | arkanes | ah okay |
| 18:56.04 | thelibrarian | 4-byte floats |
| 18:56.07 | Ackis | sylvanaar: release day, but fable 3, forza 3, etc are going to have patches to support it, and there will be more games |
| 18:56.08 | sylvanaar | none look all that fun |
| 18:56.12 | arkanes | make sense |
| 18:56.14 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 18:56.21 | sylvanaar | fable 3 maybe |
| 18:56.31 | thelibrarian | I'll do a dump and PM you a link to it, just in case you want to use those to verify |
| 18:56.35 | sylvanaar | i need to play that some more |
| 18:57.07 | sylvanaar | its kinda boring though |
| 18:57.43 | sylvanaar | i dunno - i got the strat guide - im going to go read it and play some more |
| 18:59.00 | Slayman | g'night |
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| 19:26.41 | thelibrarian | arkanes: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgPUThTBDwiPdEFEQ0VEVW5uaXVmVlpsLUw3azBOOGc&hl=en&authkey=CMnayNgE |
| 19:27.30 | thelibrarian | just in case you want the full list for reference |
| 19:28.01 | arkanes | thelibrarian: awesome, thanks |
| 19:28.52 | arkanes | anyone know if the thing that gave paladins and some other classes a bigger boost from haste is still present? |
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| 19:56.29 | Repo | -this should stop "c stack overflow" problems that could occur in rare cases |
| 19:58.13 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r21 / (3 files in 1 directory): -rename the query file |
| 19:58.14 | Repo | -fix load order |
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| 20:04.01 | Pneumatus | anyone know if dispersion works on falling damage? |
| 20:04.45 | Stanzilla | it does not |
| 20:05.11 | Pneumatus | assumed it wouldnt, rohash is annoying :< |
| 20:07.39 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r22 Sifter_Query.lua: -bump throttle to 10 seconds |
| 20:07.40 | Repo | -order the item list by content level (i.e. saronite is first, copper is last) |
| 20:08.37 | harl | dire maul/shen'dralar question: am i assuming correctly that, while i already have a [Libram of Focus/Protection/Rapidity] in my inventory, i can still find/loot one of the other two, additionally, while continuing through dire maul? |
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| 20:16.31 | durcyn | they're only unique with themselves, they're not categorized like some other recent unique items |
| 20:21.26 | harl | ok :) |
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| 20:30.09 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r227 / (6 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 20:30.10 | Repo | - Added FBoH_ItemButtonAlt widget. Can now view alt items again. Fixed bug in search collector that would sometimes cause items to be sorted incorrectly. |
| 20:33.43 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r23 Sifter.lua: -move some code around |
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| 20:34.44 | Repo | -added Tirdal's changes for relational dkp and dkp/time |
| 20:35.59 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r102 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:36.00 | Repo | -utilize the same methods as Sifter to ensure fresh item information |
| 20:38.58 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r103 MillHelp_Query.lua: -only load Cata herbs/pigments on a Cata client |
| 20:39.21 | Megalon | Fisker |
| 20:39.31 | Megalon | do you know what happens tomorrow, DO YOU? |
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| 20:46.28 | pb_ee1 | hides under his bed. |
| 20:48.09 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r682 BadBoy.lua: anti-goldspam update |
| 20:51.14 | zerix | Anyone know why a conflict with custom_class_colors would show up between two mods |
| 20:51.37 | zerix | StufRaid is using a registercallback and its throwing an error from this new aurora window theme mod |
| 20:51.45 | zerix | since it defines custom class colors as well |
| 20:51.46 | zerix | zzz |
| 20:55.21 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r101 localization.lua: JebusMail: |
| 20:55.22 | Repo | - Hopefully fixed problem in localization file |
| 20:57.52 | Fisker | no Megalon |
| 20:58.12 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r104 / (2 files in 2 directories): -fix odd loading behavior |
| 20:58.28 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r24 Sifter.toc: -fix odd loading behavior |
| 20:59.56 | Megalon | http://i.imgur.com/fUNx6.jpg |
| 21:02.29 | Fisker | boxer gonna win |
| 21:02.32 | Fisker | (fake boxer) |
| 21:03.21 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r228 Classes (2 files in 1 directory): FBagOfHolding: |
| 21:03.22 | Repo | - User can now use the scroll bar to scroll through the grid view. |
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| 21:13.13 | harl | (i'm not sure i'd even want to know half of those.. leagues and whatever.) |
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| 21:30.40 | Parnic|Work | @ticket ice-hud 99 |
| 21:30.41 | Repo | Parnic|Work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/tickets/99 - Modular Design. Reported by: grimpossum. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 28 minutes ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Parnic. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
| 21:30.57 | Parnic|Work | No. Just no. |
| 21:31.26 | Lulia | ? |
| 21:31.50 | Parnic|Work | just amused at people not understanding how memory usage of an addon is insignificant |
| 21:32.08 | Lulia | Why? Does Ice-Hud use a lot? |
| 21:32.12 | Parnic|Work | yes |
| 21:32.16 | vhaarr | Parnic|Work: indeed :P |
| 21:32.19 | Lulia | How much? |
| 21:32.28 | Parnic|Work | 2.5mb or so disembedded |
| 21:32.34 | Lulia | >.> |
| 21:32.39 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * da2b23a / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed a nil error when GetRealZoneText got run before PEW causing it to return nil |
| 21:32.39 | Lulia | What does it do? |
| 21:32.42 | vhaarr | is that counting textures? |
| 21:32.56 | vhaarr | Parnic|Work: when that is said, though, you know as well as me that a modular design is more easily maintained and debugged |
| 21:33.22 | Parnic|Work | vhaarr: i assume so. i've been trying for a long time to find some way to actually find out where memory is going in an addon but i have been completely unssuccesful |
| 21:33.27 | Parnic|Work | @project ice-hud |
| 21:33.28 | Repo | Parnic|Work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/. IceHUD. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author), Rokiyo (Author). Updated: 23 hours ago. Tickets: 4/99 |
| 21:33.30 | Parnic|Work | Lulia ^^ |
| 21:33.43 | Lulia | Reading |
| 21:33.52 | Parnic|Work | vhaarr: IceHUD *is* modular, just not in the Pitbull sense of having 18 different folders each treated as their own addon |
| 21:34.14 | Lulia | I'm actually starting to hate how Pitbull does that |
| 21:34.22 | vhaarr | Parnic|Work: ah, I see, well forget about that |
| 21:34.25 | Parnic|Work | it's modular in the sense that every piece of the mod is its own module that can be disabled. it's also OO so debugging and maintainance is simpler than most other mods :) |
| 21:34.39 | vhaarr | right, I assumed it was coded like a bash script |
| 21:34.44 | Parnic|Work | screw that :P |
| 21:34.47 | Parnic|Work | hehe |
| 21:35.06 | vhaarr | but yeah, then you just have a problem with your memory usage somewhere |
| 21:35.08 | Parnic|Work | the submitter of the ticket just doesn't really understand *why* he wants it to be "modular" or what "modular design" even really means |
| 21:35.09 | vhaarr | 2.5mb is too much |
| 21:35.18 | vhaarr | not "too much" in the sense that a user should care |
| 21:35.28 | vhaarr | but too much in the sense that you're doing something wrong :P |
| 21:35.37 | Lulia | I'm always a fan of making my scripts more efficient though. I mean, obviously, if it's going to use a lot of memory then it's going to use a lot of memory, but if it's possible to make it more efficient, *shrugs* |
| 21:35.37 | Parnic|Work | right, but until i can figure out where the 2.5mb is coming from i don't even know where to start looking to "fix" it |
| 21:35.48 | vhaarr | it's not your code originally? |
| 21:35.53 | Parnic|Work | lulia: certainly, and that process is always ongoing |
| 21:36.07 | Parnic|Work | vhaarr: well, it wasn't my code when the mod was created, no. but it's been my code for over 4 years :) |
| 21:36.09 | Parnic|Work | if you know what i mean |
| 21:36.26 | Lulia | Ah, actually. |
| 21:36.26 | vhaarr | then you should know what goes on :P |
| 21:36.37 | Lulia | My mod is going to be using some of Icehud's functionality, I think ;) |
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| 21:36.50 | Lulia | Not code-wise |
| 21:36.52 | Parnic|Work | yes, i know what goes on. i don't know what actions cause how much memory to be allocated |
| 21:36.58 | Lulia | But some of its options will work similarly. |
| 21:36.59 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r229 Widgets/FBoH_ItemButtonBags.lua: FBagOfHolding: |
| 21:37.00 | Repo | - Added textures for quest items to match the default UI. Items now properly update their texture when their lock status has changed. |
| 21:37.01 | arkanes | it's all those curved bars |
| 21:37.09 | arkanes | straight bars use less memory, because you can compress them more |
| 21:37.15 | Parnic|Work | arkanes: good point. i'll go fix that |
| 21:37.21 | thelibrarian | and rotate them while you're at it |
| 21:37.23 | thelibrarian | make them horizontal |
| 21:37.26 | arkanes | right |
| 21:37.29 | Parnic|Work | thelibrarian: die. |
| 21:37.29 | vhaarr | I haven't checked if addon memory usage counts textures |
| 21:37.32 | thelibrarian | lol |
| 21:37.35 | vhaarr | but if it does, that's probably half of it |
| 21:37.37 | thelibrarian | dies |
| 21:37.47 | arkanes | when you go horizontal, you have more 1s and less 0s |
| 21:37.51 | Parnic|Work | vhaarr: it would have to, no? i'm sure that's where the vast majority of the memory goes |
| 21:37.53 | arkanes | and 0s are wider, so they take up more space |
| 21:37.57 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r683 BadBoy.lua: anti-goldspam update |
| 21:38.05 | vhaarr | I have no idea |
| 21:38.16 | Parnic|Work | i should slap a 2x2 tga in there and see what happens to memory |
| 21:38.22 | arkanes | Parnic|Work: release another mod called PearScore that keeps the textures in it |
| 21:38.31 | Parnic|Work | arkanes: hahaha |
| 21:38.48 | Lulia | I dislike how Blizzard handles resizing textures :( |
| 21:38.57 | Lulia | I make them large and they look awful small :-/ |
| 21:39.01 | Parnic|Work | don't we all |
| 21:39.11 | Lulia | If I make them small, they'll look awful when made large. |
| 21:40.05 | arkanes | you'd think it'd be possible to use vector images for textures |
| 21:40.27 | Lulia | Well, I mean |
| 21:40.34 | Lulia | Even non-vector, if I resize the image myself |
| 21:40.39 | Lulia | It usually looks fine smaller |
| 21:40.47 | Lulia | Generally there's less issues going from large > small |
| 21:41.11 | Lulia | But I get it in the game and it's usually fairly "distorted", not scale-wise |
| 21:41.17 | Lulia | But edges are somtimes off, etc... |
| 21:41.43 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v6.200 * r684 : |
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| 21:41.45 | Repo | Tagging as v6.200. No longer scans chat from guild members, or RealID friends. Anti-goldspam update. |
| 21:42.10 | SunTsu | oh no, now all my friends can start spamming me at once |
| 21:46.51 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): -add Cataclysm prospecting info for Obsidium Ore |
| 21:46.52 | Repo | -only loads on Cata clients |
| 21:47.21 | Fisker | slaps Parnic|Work around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:47.44 | Parnic|Work | not again, Fisker |
| 21:47.45 | thelibrarian | Parnic|Work: Back on an earlier topic, sometimes I think Pitbull4 takes the whole modularization thing just a _little_ bit too far. The whole thing about having the health bar support in a separate module, just in case you don't want that on your unit frames... |
| 21:47.59 | Fisker | i'm so much back Parnic|Work |
| 21:48.01 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:48.11 | Fisker | i have more games than 99% of the steam userbase :E |
| 21:48.26 | Parnic|Work | i'm not really intending to judge pitbull's approach to design, i just use it as an extreme example of what "modularization" looks like |
| 21:48.33 | Olison | o m g fisker |
| 21:48.37 | Olison | you're CRAZY |
| 21:48.43 | Parnic|Work | when i install 1 mod and 18 folders appear, i have a sad. |
| 21:48.46 | Fisker | no Olison |
| 21:48.57 | Olison | Okay, sorry to have suggested it, Fisker |
| 21:49.11 | Parnic|Work | i'll suggest it instead |
| 21:49.52 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r230 Classes/View.lua: FBagOfHolding: |
| 21:49.53 | Repo | - Grid views will no longer mix bag types on a single row in the view for the current character. |
| 21:50.13 | Fisker | you're just jealous Parnic|Work |
| 21:50.54 | EthanCentaurai | Parnic|Work: any chance of a Borderlands patch which adds a new enemy named Fisker? >_> |
| 21:51.03 | Parnic|Work | EthanCentaurai: no. :) |
| 21:51.09 | EthanCentaurai | dammit |
| 21:51.27 | Fisker | not enough notoriety |
| 21:51.42 | Parnic|Work | fisker: no one was talking to you |
| 21:51.48 | Fisker | maybe if i trolled Gearbox immensely |
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| 22:00.26 | Repo | 10skillet: 03yossa 06lilsparkys-clone * r169 / (5 files in 2 directories): Skillet: |
| 22:00.29 | Repo | - turn off not working arl filtering |
| 22:00.30 | Repo | - minor fixes |
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| 22:07.31 | Zhinjio | thelibrarian: ping |
| 22:08.18 | ccKep | Bibi: you there? |
| 22:08.29 | Bibi | maybe |
| 22:08.31 | Bibi | you girl? |
| 22:08.46 | ccKep | just spend 3 hours flying around for the tripping the rifts achievement, have some info you might want to clarify in the main news post |
| 22:09.07 | ccKep | You have to kill rifts of your own levels to get the achievements, if you're level 80 look for them in Northrend. <<< wrong (got mine in outlands, being levle 80) |
| 22:09.07 | ccKep | +rifts spawn always at full hours |
| 22:09.22 | ccKep | and then they're literally everywhere over the zones |
| 22:09.36 | EthanCentaurai | why would the rifts appear in Outland? |
| 22:09.58 | ccKep | spend 30 minutes flying through shadowmoon valley, then at exactly 23:00 the whole zone was full of water elemental rifts (6+ rifts spottet while flying through the zone to terokkar) |
| 22:10.06 | ccKep | dunno, but I just got my achiev :P |
| 22:10.27 | sbu | hmmm is it a cataclysm event achievement? |
| 22:10.34 | ccKep | its a feat |
| 22:10.38 | ccKep | for the cataclysm event |
| 22:10.52 | sbu | so i should get up again... :p |
| 22:10.55 | ccKep | "The Mysterious Object looted from rifts gives a daily quest with gold/XP reward." <<< I couldnt loot the mysterious objects in outland though |
| 22:10.57 | sbu | which one? |
| 22:11.21 | sbu | ah i see, i can read :p |
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| 22:12.13 | ccKep | in short: if you dont find a rift in a zone within 5 minutes, it probably means you're too late and should go afk until the next full hour |
| 22:12.24 | sbu | okay ;) |
| 22:17.31 | EthanCentaurai | Ackis: 61000 now |
| 22:26.30 | ccKep | the haste buff from the wind rifts seems buggy |
| 22:26.35 | ccKep | (either tooltip, or implementation) |
| 22:26.43 | ccKep | "Increases haste rating by 50" |
| 22:26.52 | ccKep | but it doesnt change my haste rating, instead it seems to give me 50% haste |
| 22:27.01 | ccKep | 1.9s divine light without buff -> 1.3s with buff ^.^ |
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| 22:32.41 | ccKep | 90% uptime buff with 50% haste ftw |
| 22:32.46 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r503 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:32.47 | Repo | reorganize the preset-part of the config, and add some descriptions |
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| 22:42.21 | ccKep | hey bibi, you posted your edits in the wrong places in your news post ^.^ |
| 22:42.32 | ccKep | ah sry nop |
| 22:42.34 | ccKep | alrighty |
| 22:43.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7591 Throne/Conclave.lua: |
| 22:43.12 | Repo | only warn for gather strength if we really know who is casting it |
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| 22:46.10 | Repo | 10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * 53deb2e BossDetection.lua: [+1 commit] added an extra check to make sure we got a unit before checking is dead |
| 22:54.18 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v4.0.1d * r102 : JebusMail: |
| 22:54.19 | Repo | - Hopefully fixed problem in localization file |
| 23:04.51 | ccKep | rifts just spawned again, indeed |
| 23:05.22 | Zhinjio | where? |
| 23:05.57 | ccKep | everywhere, I dare say |
| 23:06.07 | ccKep | spawned at 00:04 realm time on EU-Blackhand all over the zones |
| 23:06.18 | Zhinjio | in cities, out of cities? outland, north... ok |
| 23:06.31 | ccKep | out of cities |
| 23:06.41 | ccKep | just fly through some zones, you will _definately_ find them |
| 23:06.53 | ccKep | classic, outlands & northrend |
| 23:06.56 | ccKep | doesnt matter |
| 23:07.09 | Zhinjio | looking now |
| 23:07.32 | Pneumatus | any confirmation about being able to get the FoS from low level ones? |
| 23:08.28 | ccKep | I got it from outlands an hour ago |
| 23:08.32 | ccKep | (being level 80 myself) |
| 23:08.36 | Pneumatus | sexy |
| 23:08.56 | ccKep | but I wasted a TON of time searching for the rifts because I didn't know they spawn at full hours |
| 23:09.04 | Pneumatus | im guessing you just need to get the buff from each |
| 23:09.05 | arkanes | FoS? |
| 23:09.10 | ccKep | feat of strength |
| 23:09.15 | arkanes | oh, is there a thing? |
| 23:09.19 | thelibrarian | Zhinjio: pong |
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| 23:09.41 | arkanes | that might explain why there was a huge pvp battle fought over one here |
| 23:09.59 | ccKep | just tested a rift in stormpeaks again because of the "daily quest thingie" |
| 23:10.07 | ccKep | and the ones in northrend do indeed give a quest |
| 23:10.16 | ccKep | outlands didn't though |
| 23:10.27 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r504 Baggins-Filtering.lua: |
| 23:10.28 | Repo | fix bug when selecting "any" before selecting any specific set in "Equipment Set"-rule |
| 23:10.29 | Pneumatus | yeh i guess the daily quest is proper level only |
| 23:10.32 | ccKep | but its just a "travel to any major city and talk to X -> get 13g" thing |
| 23:11.26 | Repo | 10baggins: 03profalbert 06ace3 * r505 Baggins-Options.lua: |
| 23:11.27 | Repo | properly handle adding and removing categories from sections |
| 23:12.46 | ShadniX | ccKep: i think, you can only get the daily quests from a level appropriate spawn point |
| 23:13.09 | Pneumatus | you can definatly get the buff from low level ones though |
