| 00:01.00 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r49 config.lua: * Fix for ticket #8. |
| 00:01.01 | Repo | Proper initialization of the saved options on the first run. |
| 00:02.18 | Repo | 10surface-control: 03Rabbit * r53 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:02.19 | Repo | Pretty much drycoded and untested update for LSM3, Sink2 and wow 4.0. Also missing l10n, etc. |
| 00:02.48 | Dark_Elf | i think blizzard is trying to sell me their authenticator, cause last night i tryed loggin in to game and it said my account was comprimised lol |
| 00:03.32 | *** join/#wowace Repo (~supybot@68.64.47.56) |
| 00:05.39 | nevcairiel | Archarodim: it seems to be fixed |
| 00:06.10 | Archarodim | @nevcairiel: Thanks! |
| 00:08.45 | Slayman | the german made "Simulator" Series is invading Steam, god help us all |
| 00:09.43 | Repo | 10iconlover: 03Rabbit * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Toc bump + localization for icon names. |
| 00:10.03 | Slayman | @describe iconlover |
| 00:10.05 | Repo | Slayman: http://www.wowace.com/addons/iconlover/. IconLover. Reports when healers assigned icon targets die. |
| 00:11.03 | Slayman | someone kick rabbit in the balls please |
| 00:11.12 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:11.47 | Repo | 10crit-spit: 03Rabbit * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): Toc bump; probably works. |
| 00:12.16 | vhaarr | Slayman: if you knew me you'd know I write things sometimes just to be controversial :P |
| 00:13.00 | Slayman | vhaarr: so you have a publicity deficiency |
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| 00:14.24 | vhaarr | whatever makes you happy, I didn't say that to get analyzed |
| 00:14.44 | nevcairiel | likes disecting rabbits |
| 00:15.49 | vhaarr | physical analysis might be another thing entirely, depends on blood/alcohol ratio |
| 00:16.16 | nevcairiel | there is blood in your alcohol? |
| 00:16.26 | Megalon | that needs to be fixed |
| 00:16.34 | nevcairiel | just for the color, right |
| 00:16.51 | vhaarr | I like my bandages with a pinkish hue |
| 00:17.02 | vhaarr | saves money on dye |
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| 00:19.01 | sylvanaar | vhaarr: bugsack has 2 framexml errors, idk if you want to fix em = they are Libstub and CBH, but interestingly not LDB |
| 00:19.18 | vhaarr | ah, yes I know, I just forget about it |
| 00:19.28 | vhaarr | I am in the process of restructuring bugsack here |
| 00:19.33 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: fix if you care |
| 00:19.39 | Slayman | "you don't know Jack" is getting rebooted, awesomecake! |
| 00:20.00 | vhaarr | LDB is probably hardembedded I guess |
| 00:20.05 | sylvanaar | im curious why there is no error for ldb |
| 00:21.23 | sylvanaar | how funny |
| 00:21.24 | nevcairiel | ldb is an external git, which are also added to no-lib packages, iirc |
| 00:21.32 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 00:21.38 | sylvanaar | i guess so |
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| 00:22.22 | sylvanaar | can you use nolibstrip twice in a toc? |
| 00:22.28 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 00:22.40 | Repo | 10bugsack: 03sylvanaar * r241 BugSack.toc: fix framexml.errors |
| 00:22.44 | nevcairiel | just dont nest it, it goes nuts then |
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| 00:29.43 | Repo | 10crit-spit: 03Rabbit * r33 CritSpit.lua: Actually it didn't work, but now it does. |
| 00:33.29 | vhaarr | the namespace passed to the addon is just a table, right? |
| 00:33.37 | vhaarr | I seem to have used it here like a frame |
| 00:33.44 | vhaarr | weird |
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| 00:35.25 | sylvanaar | where |
| 00:39.29 | vhaarr | unreleased code |
| 00:39.40 | vhaarr | local addonName, addon = ... |
| 00:39.43 | vhaarr | then later I do |
| 00:39.47 | vhaarr | addon:RegisterEvent |
| 00:39.59 | vhaarr | perhaps I modified it somewhere originally I dunno |
| 00:40.44 | Repo | 10shut-up: 03Rabbit * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): Toc bump and untested support for BN friends. |
| 00:41.06 | Repo | 10shut-up: 03Rabbit * r48 ShutUp.lua: Actually register for the events. |
| 00:41.10 | sylvanaar | oh BN chat, evil new playerlinks |
| 00:41.54 | vhaarr | ah you probably know the events right? |
| 00:42.00 | vhaarr | I've never dealt with those before |
| 00:42.19 | vhaarr | I just want to scan the list of bn friends and get their toon name whenever they relog or whatever |
| 00:42.33 | vhaarr | http://paste.wowace.com/2755/ |
| 00:42.35 | vhaarr | that's what I did |
| 00:42.37 | sylvanaar | yeah, i need to do the same thing |
| 00:42.41 | vhaarr | didn't test it though |
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| 00:43.18 | vhaarr | I am guessing those two events allow initial scan + friend changes character |
| 00:43.24 | vhaarr | but you never know with blizz |
| 00:43.33 | sylvanaar | looks about right |
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| 00:49.43 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r50 main.lua: * Fix for ticket #7. |
| 00:49.44 | Repo | Apparently GetNumPartyMembers() is exluding the player, whereas |
| 00:49.45 | Repo | GetNumRaidMembers() is inclusive. I fail to see the sense in this. |
| 00:49.46 | Repo | "Hi guys, come over for a party, but don't mind me, I won't be there"... |
| 00:52.15 | vhaarr | GetRealNumPartMembers() ftw?! |
| 00:52.19 | vhaarr | Party* |
| 00:52.34 | Copperman | good morning(?) what's new in addon land today? |
| 00:53.10 | vhaarr | ~ugt |
| 00:53.11 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 00:53.18 | vhaarr | so yes, good morning |
| 00:53.37 | Copperman | technically it is morning here in the uk... |
| 00:53.48 | vhaarr | that's besides the point |
| 00:54.11 | Copperman | ofc :) |
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| 00:54.22 | vhaarr | it could've been midnight, the proper greeting would still have been, as you correctly said, "good morning" |
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| 00:56.14 | Copperman | aye, I know, I don't IRC as much as I used to :D |
| 00:57.26 | vhaarr | I'm just messing with you, I just enjoy UGT :P |
| 00:57.40 | Copperman | trolling is a art ;) |
| 00:58.48 | Megalon | an art |
| 00:59.01 | Megalon | so is being a grammar nazi, hurrrrrr |
| 00:59.53 | Copperman | lol |
| 01:00.09 | Copperman | a art I tell's ya :P |
| 01:00.17 | vhaarr | that should be my next addon |
| 01:00.30 | Copperman | sorry megalon, I couldn't resist... |
| 01:00.45 | vhaarr | specifically one that checks for apostrophe mistakes |
| 01:01.08 | vhaarr | since the rules for using one are different from country to country |
| 01:01.38 | vhaarr | and people usually apply their own rules when writing english, I guess |
| 01:02.01 | Copperman | being English, there's only one rule... |
| 01:02.22 | Copperman | my apologies /troll |
| 01:02.50 | vhaarr | Copperman: anyway if you want to know what's new in the addon world, http://www.wowace.com/addons/lifepercent/ has been updated recently |
| 01:03.02 | vhaarr | and http://www.wowace.com/addons/craftygnome/ |
| 01:03.20 | vhaarr | I mention those especially because I rewrote the project descriptions |
| 01:04.54 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r51 main.lua: * Fix for ticket #9. |
| 01:04.55 | Repo | The not-yet-inspected sub-window now gets attached at the top if the fold-out |
| 01:04.56 | Repo | direction is set to "up", so it no longer obscures the anchor button. |
| 01:05.01 | Copperman | I await engineering_broker, a ficticious addon I discussed briefly with crazybenny, the author of broker_portals |
| 01:05.09 | Parnic | if i were to SetScript() on a blizzard frame, would it replace whatever they specified? like RuneFrame:SetScript("OnShow", function() end) |
| 01:05.30 | vhaarr | aww come on read craftygnomes description |
| 01:05.40 | vhaarr | look at this gem I cooked up |
| 01:05.42 | vhaarr | "Surrounded by vicious predators that would hunt them at every opportunity, they developed their own little system for transmitting known recipes for all kinds of stuff by molding swarms of drugged bees into different shapes and launching them through the jungle right across to the receiving tribe via catapult." |
| 01:06.04 | vhaarr | Parnic: yes |
| 01:06.07 | vhaarr | Parnic: you'd also taint |
| 01:06.18 | Parnic | ah. hooksecurefunc is what i need? |
| 01:06.19 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.0.0beta15 * r52 : Tagging as 4.0.0beta15 |
| 01:06.23 | vhaarr | Parnic: :HookScript |
| 01:07.02 | Parnic | k. they intentionally :Show() the rune frame via the player frame so it's a pain for my mod to properly keep the rune frame hidden if users want that |
| 01:08.11 | vhaarr | hookscript will be invoked after the :Show has completed, so you can safely :Hide it again, I guess |
| 01:08.11 | Copperman | vhaarr: maybe that should read "right across the jungle to the receiving tribe" |
| 01:08.21 | Shefki | Parnic: Look at what I did. |
| 01:08.24 | Shefki | In PB4. |
| 01:08.34 | Parnic | Shefki: Look what I can do! |
| 01:08.38 | Parnic | jumps |
| 01:08.55 | vhaarr | Copperman: thank you, englishman |
| 01:09.22 | Copperman | yw :D |
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| 01:09.47 | Copperman | shefki: did you not like my ticket suggestion for a flashing bar option? |
| 01:10.42 | Shefki | Copperman: Not sure that I remember that ticket. |
| 01:11.09 | Shefki | Ohh that ticket. |
| 01:11.12 | Copperman | it would be ticket 787 |
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| 01:11.49 | Shefki | Got other fish to fry atm. |
| 01:11.53 | Copperman | i moved from icehud to pb as ahud and miss the option to make a bar flash at x% |
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| 01:12.14 | Parnic | awwwwwww |
| 01:12.26 | Parnic | pb isn't a hud :P |
| 01:12.36 | Copperman | it can be... :D |
| 01:12.50 | Parnic | but what about the fact that icehud rules? |
| 01:12.54 | Shefki | Parnic: It's going to be able to be used that way without impacting the other functionality as soon as I push the unlimiting of Singletons. |
| 01:12.55 | Parnic | i bet you didn't consider that |
| 01:12.57 | Megalon | pg can also do everything prat does |
| 01:13.03 | Megalon | you just need to find it in the options |
| 01:13.04 | Megalon | durr |
| 01:13.15 | Megalon | pb :< |
| 01:13.15 | Copperman | i have nothing against icehud per se |
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| 01:13.28 | Shefki | Megalon: Hardly. |
| 01:13.30 | Parnic | i know, i'm being sarcastic |
| 01:13.52 | Shefki | The only thing you really do that we don't is the whole curved bar thing. |
| 01:14.00 | Parnic | ah-HA! |
| 01:14.14 | Copperman | I was a rivet bar man myself anyway |
| 01:14.16 | Parnic | you mean the whatever-design-you-want thing :P |
| 01:14.25 | Shefki | Parnic: And not screwing up the RuneFrame. :P |
| 01:14.31 | Parnic | don't limit yourself to curved, man, free your mind! |
| 01:14.41 | Parnic | pff, it works fine as long as you also hide the player frame |
| 01:15.14 | Parnic | you just hacked into PlayerFrame_HideVehicleTexture like a cheater-man |
| 01:15.24 | Shefki | I didn't break it though. |
| 01:15.32 | Parnic | how very non-forward-thinking of you! :P |
| 01:15.42 | Parnic | seems like hooking the rune frame's onshow would be more bulletproof :P |
| 01:15.54 | Shefki | You really shouldn't call Hide from Show |
| 01:16.04 | Parnic | fine, put it on a one-frame timer |
| 01:16.05 | Shefki | You can get into infinite loops doing that crap. |
| 01:16.11 | vhaarr | wait, did they remove Daze from the game? |
| 01:16.14 | vhaarr | I can't find it on wowhead |
| 01:16.58 | Shefki | Parnic: Especially with the addons that don't play nicely with hiding stuff. |
| 01:17.13 | Parnic | *cough*healbot*cough* |
| 01:18.13 | Copperman | i dropped icehud, not because it wasn't good but simply because 99% of the functionality could be reproduced in PB4 (with a little user finesse) and let me run 1 less addon |
| 01:19.04 | Parnic | copperman: you're free to do whatever you want, i was just giving you a hard time :) |
| 01:19.10 | Parnic | no need to justify your use of one free addon over another |
| 01:19.35 | Copperman | i was just showing off ;) |
| 01:20.03 | Parnic | oh, well in that case...icehud can also do anything pitbull can do! (except for horizontal layouts that actually work...) |
| 01:20.11 | Parnic | but WITH CURVES |
| 01:20.26 | Copperman | both of your works rock socks, you should maybe team up and make a motherlode addon |
| 01:21.20 | Shefki | Parnic: For what it's worth that one function is the one and only place Blizzard Shows the RuneFrame. |
| 01:21.28 | Parnic | totally, let's do it, shefki! http://www.concentratedawesome.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/gorilla_shark_nice_high_five.jpg |
| 01:21.39 | Parnic | shefki: i know....for now :P |
| 01:21.55 | Parnic | i was just thinking of ways to fix it that wouldn't involve needing an update if they added some other spot to show the rune frame from |
| 01:22.36 | Shefki | There's realy no way around that. We're always going to have to update. |
| 01:23.00 | Copperman | parnic: you recently moved IH to ace3, is that working out well from a creation pov? |
| 01:23.00 | Parnic | unless OnShow() => :Hide() |
| 01:23.02 | arkanes | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.04 | Shefki | When we could taint the PlayerFrame it was easier. |
| 01:23.34 | cubed | man, addon devs talk a lot compared to other IRC channels I've idled in |
| 01:23.58 | Parnic | copperman: i'm not entirely certain what you mean, but the only problem is that icehud has been updated over and over again for years so there's a lot of bloat and patches in it |
| 01:24.17 | Parnic | i think ace3 was a good decision but it would be better to be re-designed from the ground up with ace3 in mind |
| 01:24.42 | arkanes | vhaarr: I got dazed on the beta about 2 minutes ago |
| 01:24.51 | Copperman | sorry, yes my question was poor, it was ace2 and worked, has moving to ace3 given you new options, is IH going to new palces? |
| 01:24.51 | vhaarr | cool thanks |
| 01:25.15 | arkanes | vhaarr: spellid is 1604, like it always was I htink |
| 01:25.18 | Parnic | copperman: ah. well to be honest the ace3 move was necessitated by the EOL of ace2. if it breaks, no one's going to be fixing it |
| 01:25.28 | Shefki | Parnic: I guess my inclination is to lean towards something that will break in an easy to fix and obvious way vs something that will either crash the game or freeze it up. |
| 01:25.36 | vhaarr | arkanes: oh excellent, thank you |
| 01:25.51 | Parnic | but yes, one improvement already has been the ability to go to an AceGUI options screen instead of waterfall |
| 01:25.53 | Parnic | among other things |
| 01:26.06 | vhaarr | arkanes: it's weird though searching wowhead for Dazed just got me the "Dazed and Confused" from some quest |
| 01:26.19 | Copperman | i wish i knew more about what ace2/3 offered, i'm a design guy not a programmer |
| 01:26.24 | Parnic | shefki: yeah i understand that. i'm more or less just brainstorming alternative solutions. i definitely agree that there are risks to the show/hide method |
| 01:26.46 | Shefki | There is one sneaky solution. |
| 01:26.52 | Shefki | But you're taining the Show function. |
| 01:27.04 | Copperman | to me the software can do any |
| 01:27.08 | Copperman | oops |
| 01:27.17 | Shefki | RuneFrame.Show = nil |
| 01:27.28 | Shefki | err |
| 01:27.28 | Copperman | any/everything, given time and caffeine |
| 01:27.32 | Shefki | RuneFrame.Show = function() end |
| 01:28.09 | Parnic | copperman: really they're both aimed at doing all the boilerplate crap that every addon would otherwise have to implement themselves like a robust settings storage solution or managing how the addon is loaded on login, etc. |
| 01:28.20 | Shefki | I don't remember if the call path on that Show is terribly sensitive to the tainting. |
| 01:28.26 | Parnic | the difference being that ace3 is able to benefit from the hindsight granted by the development of ace2 and the evolution of the engine itself over the years |
| 01:28.47 | Copperman | ofc, time and caffeine... :D |
| 01:28.53 | Parnic | right |
| 01:29.21 | Parnic | which is why icehud does as much stuff as it does. it's been iterated and maintained over the past 4-5 years constantly |
| 01:29.31 | Parnic | IMO icehud does too much and is too much of a resource hog |
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| 01:29.58 | Parnic | but i hate making users dump an addon they're comfortable and happy with just because the developer felt the need to start over. my opinion differs from other devs in that respect |
| 01:30.02 | Copperman | it works, best ootb hud i've seen for wow |
| 01:30.29 | Copperman | I used it for 2 years until I learnt how to do PB4 layouts |
| 01:30.48 | Parnic | pb4 is a great mod, for sure :). i've taken my fair share of inspiration (and code) from it |
| 01:30.52 | Shefki | Parnic: I don't really disagree, but sometimes it's useful to make a clean break. |
| 01:30.57 | Parnic | plus shefki and ckknight are awesome dudes who help out a lot |
| 01:31.22 | Shefki | I supported PB3 for a whole expansion after it was obsolete. |
| 01:31.22 | Parnic | shefki: absolutely. one of these days i'm going to get around to doing just that. but i continually find more things that need fixing before i can feel okay about "abandoning" icehud (more or less) to its replacement |
| 01:31.28 | Copperman | so I see, well shefki anyway, rarely see skknight... |
| 01:31.46 | Shefki | ckknight is busy these days. |
| 01:31.47 | Parnic | ckknight hasn't been around lately but usually he's very active |
| 01:31.58 | Parnic | he's got a lot going on at curse ;) |
| 01:34.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs_zombie-food: 03Rabbit * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): I just want to feed the zombies. |
| 01:34.31 | Copperman | shefki: whats the best way to submit a set of blips for chinchilla? |
| 01:34.53 | Shefki | *shrug* I'm not really the one maintaining Chinchilla anymore. |
| 01:35.31 | Copperman | oh ok, who is? |
| 01:35.38 | Shefki | EthanCentaurai rewrote it. |
| 01:36.55 | Copperman | yeah I just checked the recent comments on the project |
| 01:37.32 | Copperman | who, unfortunately doesn't come here... |
| 01:37.53 | vhaarr | he's here |
| 01:38.01 | vhaarr | ~seen ethancentaurai |
| 01:38.08 | purl | ethancentaurai <~ethan@78.148.58.109> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 5h 55m 17s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel has no idea where it is'. |
| 01:38.08 | vhaarr | or, sometimes, I dunno |
| 01:38.24 | Copperman | just not here now |
| 01:38.37 | Copperman | my bad, i dunno how to finesse the bot |
| 01:38.50 | cubed | Semi offtopic, but in a 25 raid setting if you're experiencing extreme FPS lag where you didn't used to, would it probably be correct to assume it's addon based? And if so, what is the best way to determine which addon(s)? |
| 01:39.21 | Shefki | cubed: Any particular boss? |
| 01:39.26 | Copperman | tuen em all off and turn em on a few at a time |
| 01:39.33 | vhaarr | no no |
| 01:39.40 | vhaarr | turn off half, then half that, then half that, etc |
| 01:39.44 | Copperman | tbag made my fps ditch |
| 01:39.53 | Copperman | or maybe something conflicting with it |
| 01:40.09 | cubed | Hmm, seemed like quite a few bosses, but I was at 4-5 fps on Low video settings - I used to run on Ultra with no issues (i.e., pre-4.0.1) |
| 01:40.21 | vhaarr | Mac? |
| 01:40.23 | Shefki | Copperman: Nonsense, it does nothing in combat. |
| 01:40.24 | cubed | no |
| 01:40.43 | arkanes | addons chain-throwing errors is a not uncommon cause of FPS loss |
| 01:40.53 | cubed | I am not getting any LUA errors |
| 01:40.55 | arkanes | so make sure you've got bugsack or something like it |
| 01:40.56 | Copperman | I know, but it was the one, something may have been conflicting with it... |
| 01:41.14 | vhaarr | 4-5 FPS is severe though |
| 01:41.15 | Copperman | but on my wifes set up it was fine |
| 01:41.22 | cubed | Ya, it's killing me |
| 01:41.30 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r101 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: -fix Glyph of Levitate |
| 01:42.28 | Shefki | Copperman: Only thing it does at all in combat would be the Cooldown spinners. |
| 01:42.33 | Shefki | Which aren't that big of a deal. |
| 01:42.52 | Shefki | You're likely to have more cooldown spinners on your actionbars than TBag would have running. |
| 01:42.55 | vhaarr | cubed: do you mouse over your action bars while this is happening? |
| 01:43.04 | vhaarr | or your inventory items |
| 01:43.07 | Copperman | it was probably a conflict with something else, i run many addons |
| 01:43.26 | cubed | No, I was mousing over the game menu icon to check FPS :P |
| 01:43.29 | Copperman | 94 atm |
| 01:43.49 | Copperman | im using arkinventory these days |
| 01:43.56 | vhaarr | arkinv is a piece of shit |
| 01:44.01 | vhaarr | get bagnon or combuctor instead |
| 01:44.02 | cubed | :P |
| 01:44.06 | Copperman | why so? |
| 01:44.10 | cubed | bagnon gets my vote |
| 01:44.17 | arkanes | agreed on arkinv being terrible |
| 01:44.19 | vhaarr | read the code, you'll see |
| 01:44.21 | arkanes | I switched to adibags |
| 01:44.23 | Tuller | so i see my pinging powers still work |
| 01:44.39 | Copperman | if i understood the code... |
| 01:44.46 | vhaarr | yeah, you'd agree |
| 01:44.48 | Copperman | I'm a designer :D |
| 01:44.48 | vhaarr | so do it :P |
| 01:45.26 | Copperman | for me ark is good, very flexible with a good aproach |
| 01:45.34 | Copperman | *p |
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| 01:47.27 | Copperman | I like the organisation approach |
| 01:47.30 | cubed | Something else sorta offtopic, if I leave Curse Client on for a while, it continues to eat up virtual memory, i.e., it starts at 100 meg, but I've seen it as high as 500 meg after a good long while - is that a bug in the client? |
| 01:49.19 | Copperman | can't say I've noticed that man, do you have much real mem... |
| 01:49.28 | cubed | 4 gig |
| 01:49.47 | Copperman | same, mine is idling at 1.7mb |
| 01:50.09 | cubed | I am talking about virtual memory |
| 01:50.14 | cubed | page file usage |
| 01:50.34 | arkanes | virutal memory is not a scarce resource, you can't really "eat" it |
| 01:50.58 | Copperman | not with >1tb on board |
| 01:51.01 | arkanes | having a lot of it allocated is not generally a problem, although the fact that it grows over time might suggest that there's a leak somewhere |
| 01:51.06 | cubed | my pagefile was hitting like 3 gigs, and windows was not enjoying it |
| 01:51.30 | arkanes | thats not caused by something allocating a lot of memory |
| 01:51.45 | arkanes | that's caused by something allocating *and using* lots of memory |
| 01:52.11 | arkanes | if you're worried about the performance implications of that, you want to be looking at your VM and disk IO perf counters, not just the vmem used of various processes |
| 01:52.38 | pnorman | I just looked at WoW ram usage and it's *way* down from before 4.0 |
| 01:53.06 | cubed | Like how much, for you? |
| 01:53.13 | pnorman | Down by about a gig |
| 01:54.16 | pnorman | Right now it's got .7 GB commit |
| 01:54.49 | pnorman | Whereas I'd hit 2 GB (with the crash bug patched) before |
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| 01:55.33 | pnorman | My top 3 memory usages are WoW, python at .65 GB and java at .4 GB |
| 01:57.04 | pnorman | I'm doing some image processing in python - slicing a 3 GB highly compressed image into 30 GB of PNGs |
| 01:59.22 | Copperman | ah the joy of being a designer, that sounds cool, but I have no idea/don't care why... :D |
| 02:01.39 | Parnic | you keep saying that...what do you mean by 'designer' ? what do you design? |
| 02:02.16 | pnorman | I'm not doing anything artistic - it's orthophotography and it's just processing data |
| 02:02.27 | Parnic | i meant copperman, sorry :) |
| 02:02.55 | Copperman | im the principal designer of the case management software for an industrial disease claims company |
| 02:03.22 | pnorman | I work in OHS too |
| 02:03.41 | Parnic | the question still stands :P. you 'design' the UI? the code class structure? art? |
| 02:04.03 | Copperman | UI work flow, questionnaire... |
| 02:06.18 | Copperman | i work with the app programmer, i work with the call centre manager, i produce the job work flows, whatever my company needs to be efficient i investigate and report... |
| 02:08.07 | sylvanaar | you are an analyst |
| 02:08.43 | Tuller | business analyst? |
| 02:08.48 | Copperman | I suppose, mainly Im a pain in the ass ;) |
| 02:09.13 | Parnic | so you physically take the specifications from the customers to the engineers |
| 02:09.25 | Tuller | a people person |
| 02:09.37 | Copperman | no, we aren't that kind of compnay |
| 02:09.45 | Parnic | tuller understands |
| 02:10.14 | Copperman | I refine work processes, be they paper,verbal or computational |
| 02:10.25 | Parnic | makes a "whoosh" noise |
| 02:10.49 | sylvanaar | buisness process analyst |
| 02:10.52 | sylvanaar | there |
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| 02:11.41 | Copperman | yes I suppose you could call it that |
| 02:11.56 | Tuller | i was looking foward to taking a baseball bat to my wireless printer, but I managed to ressurect it |
| 02:12.50 | sylvanaar | you should get the bat anyways |
| 02:13.45 | Copperman | I don't have an official title, they call me Captain Chaos :d |
| 02:16.12 | Copperman | brb |
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| 02:17.07 | Shefki | So I decided to buy one of the new Macbook Airs. |
| 02:17.30 | arkanes | how is it? |
| 02:17.33 | Trela | Shefki, are you crazy? :O |
| 02:17.38 | Shefki | Don't have it yet. |
| 02:17.43 | Shefki | Trela: Why do you say that? |
| 02:18.16 | arkanes | there's some rumormilling about how apple is going to distribute Lion, given that they just released a reinvigorated air that still doesn't have an optical drive |
| 02:18.25 | arkanes | digital delivery and USB keys were mentioned |
| 02:18.30 | Trela | I consider them over priced. :P |
| 02:18.46 | Trela | Yes, I just did buy a 32gb iPhone 4 yesterday. |
| 02:19.32 | Shefki | Well for one thing I don't pay retail on Apple stuff. |
| 02:21.19 | Tuller | i hope you bought a 4gig one at least |
| 02:21.20 | Shefki | But beyond that, I'm going to replace a 4 year old MacBook Pro with it. The laptop was my primary machine at the time. But now I mostly just use it for email, web browsing and as a terminal front end. |
| 02:21.26 | Shefki | Tuller: Yeah. |
| 02:22.04 | Shefki | I got the 13" with the faster processer, extra ram and flash space. |
| 02:22.11 | Tuller | fancy |
| 02:22.59 | Shefki | And now that I'm going into work everyday dragging this MBP around has started to suck. |
| 02:23.15 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r736 modules/Runes.lua: |
| 02:23.16 | Repo | - borrowed some code from PB4 to properly hide the DK Rune frame when the player frame is not hidden |
| 02:23.28 | Shefki | And the Lenova T400s I have from work has spoiled me. |
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| 02:25.10 | Parnic | i bought my first asus laptop about 8 months ago and have loved it. it has both an intel graphics card and nvidia card that i can swap between for gaming/battery |
| 02:25.28 | Shefki | Yeah the new MBPs have hat. |
| 02:25.30 | Shefki | that* |
| 02:25.35 | Parnic | i was apprehensive about asus as a laptop manufacturer since i've only ever bought motherboards from them but it has worked out great |
| 02:25.42 | Rokiyo | ice-hud: Parnic * r737 (52 files in 2 directories): IceHUD is now Pitbull5 |
| 02:25.43 | Parnic | 8-10hrs battery life when i'm not using the nvidia card |
| 02:25.45 | Rokiyo | :P |
| 02:25.54 | Parnic | rokiyo: harsh! |
| 02:26.03 | Rokiyo | i keed! i keed! |
| 02:26.09 | Parnic | shefki made me do it |
| 02:26.18 | Shefki | Did not. |
| 02:26.22 | Ackis | I beat fable 3 early today Parnic |
| 02:26.22 | Parnic | did too |
| 02:26.33 | Ackis | darn I was gonna spoil it for you |
| 02:26.42 | Parnic | ackis: i saw you had an ungodly number of kills, too. have you done anything other than play fable this week? |
| 02:26.44 | Shefki | I just don't do gaming on my laptop. |
| 02:27.08 | Shefki | I have WoW installed on it so I can test addon crap. |
| 02:27.11 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.15 | Ackis | I'm level 71 |
| 02:27.18 | Shefki | But that doesn't really matter. |
| 02:27.21 | Parnic | shefki: i just like having the option. in case i'm on vacation or something and i feel like playing |
| 02:27.44 | Shefki | Yeah going on vacation and playing a video game isn't my idea of a vacation. |
| 02:27.57 | Parnic | haha, that's exactly my idea of a vacation :P |
| 02:28.07 | Rokiyo | going on vacation and getting stuck in transit at an aiport for 4 hrs is boring :P |
| 02:28.10 | Shefki | Then just stay home. :) |
| 02:28.11 | Rokiyo | games help |
| 02:28.13 | Parnic | i read that as GW2, ackis. i almost had a few more questions for you... |
| 02:29.04 | Parnic | shefki: i can go out and do things during the day and come home to a nice evening of borderlands! |
| 02:29.23 | Rokiyo | lol, that's not a plug at all :P |
| 02:29.29 | Parnic | shh |
| 02:29.37 | Parnic | the game's a year old, i can plug it if i want :P |
| 02:30.18 | Shefki | Rokiyo: I usually end up dicking around with code during those sorts of time frames. |
| 02:30.40 | Rokiyo | fair enough |
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| 02:34.15 | Parnic | rokiyo: if you figure out what the crap the guy on icehud's curse page is talking about, feel free to fix it. i got everything else i wanted for the next release done |
| 02:34.29 | Parnic | so if there's a real bug there let's patch it up and then tag a new release :) |
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| 02:35.26 | Copperman | stupid internets |
| 02:35.31 | Copperman | goodmorning |
| 02:36.01 | Rokiyo | all i've managed to figure out is that his debuffs are displaying differently from before |
| 02:36.06 | Rokiyo | aside from that |
| 02:36.11 | Rokiyo | i haven't got a clue, lol |
| 02:36.12 | Parnic | same here |
| 02:37.19 | Rokiyo | anyone else wanna take a crack at translating his comments into english? We're talking about the comments by sjoer, 2nd thread from the top: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ice-hud.aspx |
| 02:38.58 | Parnic | yay, 53k gold. i need to figure out how to game the auction house for crazy profits |
| 02:39.23 | Copperman | lol, I'd wait for the screenshot, european none english speaker... |
| 02:39.23 | Rokiyo | :O |
| 02:40.14 | Parnic | to me it sounds like the guy is saying "it used to put all my debuffs up front, but now it's putting all my debuffs up front." |
| 02:40.22 | Copperman | i think he has issues with how buffs and debuffs for p[layer and target are not appearing as they useed to |
| 02:40.37 | Parnic | that much we figured out :P |
| 02:40.44 | Parnic | "something changed." is the only useful information i've heard so far |
| 02:40.51 | Copperman | yup |
| 02:42.04 | Rokiyo | going out of the house for a bit... i'm scared |
| 02:42.12 | Copperman | my advice, use satrina's :D |
| 02:42.20 | Parnic | that's our advice too |
| 02:42.21 | Rokiyo | lol, that's what I do! |
| 02:42.39 | Copperman | strina's is the dogs... |
| 02:42.56 | Rokiyo | ... would we be bad people if cut aura handling completely and linked to satrina's mod? |
| 02:43.33 | Copperman | nope, its the way to go... |
| 02:43.46 | Rokiyo | anyways, afk for a few hours |
| 02:43.50 | Rokiyo | waves |
| 02:44.01 | Copperman | even my wife uses it, and she knows jack about ui config |
| 02:45.43 | Shefki | Well I think it's time to dig into how Blizz screwed up Cooldown Frames. |
| 02:45.54 | Copperman | lol, that guy makes less sence that me when I've been drinking |
| 02:46.05 | Parnic | shefki: what's broken in cooldown frames? |
| 02:46.39 | Shefki | They flickr if you SetCooldown on them while they're running. |
| 02:46.40 | Copperman | any news on canceling auras with right click without tainting? |
| 02:47.16 | Shefki | Nothing that you'll like. |
| 02:47.18 | Parnic | copperman: you can if you don't want to resize or custom filter any buffs |
| 02:47.22 | arkanes | Copperman: impossible to do and still keep any real amount of configuration |
| 02:47.26 | Parnic | you can't if you do want to do any of those things |
| 02:47.43 | arkanes | not to mention that the secure aura header is buggy, so you also don't have correct weapon enchant or vehicle support |
| 02:48.14 | Copperman | fucking blizzard... ;) |
| 02:48.30 | Shefki | I think I'll implement a workaround for out of combat only canceling. |
| 02:48.43 | Parnic | how would you do that? |
| 02:48.58 | Copperman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:49.11 | Shefki | SecureActionButtons that layer over the auras. |
| 02:49.21 | Copperman | an ooc workaround works for me :D |
| 02:49.38 | Copperman | if it works with satrina's |
| 02:49.48 | arkanes | Shefki: what are you going to do with the buttons during combat? |
| 02:49.59 | Shefki | arkanes: Hide them. |
| 02:50.18 | Parnic | you can't :Hide() a secure frame in combat, can you? |
| 02:50.32 | arkanes | how? You don't have a pre-combat grace period thing like you do with unit frames |
| 02:50.37 | Shefki | Sure you can you just have limited rules. |
| 02:50.53 | arkanes | theres a state control for that? |
| 02:51.04 | Shefki | SecureHandler. |
| 02:51.27 | Shefki | With a StateDriver that detect combat. |
| 02:51.31 | arkanes | that'd work I guess |
| 02:51.58 | arkanes | you could hook it to the showing of a buff tooltip and position it on the frame under the mouse |
| 02:52.05 | arkanes | that'd probably make it work with most buff addons |
| 02:52.18 | doom0r | ::::::|||| |
| 02:52.22 | doom0r | Parnic: ^ |
| 02:52.32 | Parnic | what the heck what |
| 02:52.38 | Shefki | I'd already thought about doing that. |
| 02:52.41 | doom0r | each little dot is a size 15 buff |
| 02:52.49 | doom0r | each big line is a size 30 buff |
| 02:52.57 | doom0r | the 30's are his, the 15's are others |
| 02:53.18 | Parnic | oh. so he's saying "the second line doesn't get pushed down far enough" ? |
| 02:53.35 | doom0r | he says that the 4 of his (sized 30) started, then 6 were put under another 6 (15 + 15 = 30) before a new line |
| 02:53.59 | Parnic | well i'm glad someone can decipher that |
| 02:54.13 | doom0r | he's saying you filled area to max x + y before just going to new line after hitting max x |
| 02:54.25 | Shefki | Actually first I need to level a Paladin to level 9. |
| 02:54.55 | doom0r | Parnic: i have no idea if that even happened, but that's what reading it 4 times came out to for me |
| 02:55.02 | Parnic | lol, okay |
| 02:55.03 | doom0r | grammar check is needed on his end |
| 02:55.14 | Parnic | i'm sure he's just an ESL guy |
| 02:55.15 | doom0r | that is what he's saying though |
| 02:55.46 | Parnic | tough for me to test by myself, sadly. need to find someone else to test with me or fake-create a bunch of buffs/debuffs in code |
| 02:56.00 | doom0r | config mode? |
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| 02:56.16 | Parnic | yeah i don't display all of the potential buff slots in config mode, though |
| 02:56.16 | doom0r | can you force a specific test with a lil mod to that? |
| 02:56.31 | Parnic | certainly i can create a bunch of fake buffs in code, yeah :) |
| 02:56.42 | Copperman | now you are aware of the issue... |
| 02:56.43 | doom0r | well, certainly |
| 02:56.56 | doom0r | i meant relatively easy vs finding a couple people to buff you |
| 02:58.24 | Copperman | correction, relatively easy, now you have envisioned it, it is inherently possible ;) |
| 02:59.03 | Copperman | there are no limits, only bariers to be overcome :D |
| 02:59.16 | Copperman | like spleeling ;) |
| 02:59.50 | doom0r | peeling something by erosion from spit? |
| 03:00.11 | Copperman | yes, exactly that :P |
| 03:00.42 | Copperman | here it is 3am, and I have had many beverages |
| 03:00.49 | doom0r | goes to look for his tin foil hat and dream |
| 03:02.25 | Parnic | lua> print([[one\two]],one\two) |
| 03:02.26 | lua_bot | Parnic: luabot:1: ')' expected near '\' |
| 03:02.31 | Parnic | lua> print([[one\two]]) |
| 03:02.31 | lua_bot | Parnic: one\two |
| 03:02.34 | Copperman | I've been to a very bad horror fest this evening saw a terribad movie from thailand called slice... |
| 03:02.52 | Parnic | lua> print(one,two) |
| 03:02.53 | lua_bot | Parnic: nil, nil |
| 03:05.42 | Parnic | hmm...i hooked up config mode to my buff display pretty easily to draw a ton of buffs on the screen but am still not sure what he is seeing :P. time to revert to an older version and compare |
| 03:05.52 | Parnic | looks right to me |
| 03:06.28 | doom0r | whips out his gimp |
| 03:06.50 | Copperman | put that back in your pants mister ;) |
| 03:07.04 | doom0r | i pulled it outta my quick launch |
| 03:07.10 | doom0r | smirks |
| 03:07.15 | Parnic | uh oh |
| 03:07.16 | Parnic | imgur r broke |
| 03:07.33 | Parnic | every page is a 404. ouch |
| 03:08.05 | Parnic | doom0r: www.parnic.com/images/buffs.png |
| 03:08.20 | Parnic | i guess he's saying that there's too much room between rows 2/3, 3/4, 4/5 |
| 03:08.24 | Parnic | they should collapse |
| 03:08.31 | doom0r | no |
| 03:08.41 | doom0r | :::::: |||| |
| 03:08.51 | Copperman | in my country they have no quicklaunch |
| 03:09.07 | doom0r | he expects the 15 sized buffs to fill two rows touching NEXT to the 30 sized |
| 03:09.20 | Parnic | doom0r: yeah but he's saying that the mod used to do that. it never did. |
| 03:09.22 | doom0r | before staring a new line |
| 03:09.32 | Parnic | i can guarantee that behavior was never a feature :P |
| 03:09.46 | Copperman | so, you mean they should ""float" like css ? |
| 03:10.13 | Parnic | that's how it sounds |
| 03:10.25 | Parnic | but the problem is that "own" buffs don't *have* to be 2x non-"own" buffs |
| 03:10.35 | Parnic | so the code would have to be really tolerant of all sorts of configurations |
| 03:10.50 | Copperman | i think he asks too much |
| 03:11.13 | Parnic | that's my confusion: if he's making a feature request, i'll just say 'no' and move on. he makes it sound like the mod used to behave one way and no longer does |
| 03:11.15 | Parnic | which concerns me |
| 03:11.17 | doom0r | Parnic: closest i know of off hand is pb's stretching code |
| 03:11.33 | doom0r | it does a lil fitting |
| 03:11.54 | doom0r | i don't know it's limits |
| 03:12.09 | doom0r | i don't use it myself, i have fixed seperate groups |
| 03:12.16 | Copperman | see my original comment, recommend satrina's, let the user sort out there own damn buffs |
| 03:12.24 | Copperman | if I can do it... |
| 03:12.42 | doom0r | ebb, bison, and more |
| 03:12.47 | doom0r | there's plenty imo |
| 03:12.54 | Parnic | again: if he's asking for a new feature, the answer is "use a buff mod". if he's saying icehud's behavior changed, i want to fix it |
| 03:14.18 | doom0r | i need an image markup tool, i suck at drawing |
| 03:14.19 | Copperman | well, either way the ball is in your court, "pock" parnic to serve |
| 03:14.34 | Copperman | try fireworks |
| 03:15.47 | Parnic | i do love metaphors |
| 03:16.09 | Parnic | oh hey, imgur is back |
| 03:16.12 | doom0r | Copperman: anything faster? like a presentation tool more oriented to immediate markup? |
| 03:16.27 | Copperman | inkscape |
| 03:16.31 | Copperman | makes svg |
| 03:17.06 | Copperman | i guess it depends on what you want your gfx for |
| 03:19.45 | Copperman | mainly i use fireworks and illustrator |
| 03:23.22 | Parnic | holy crap, someone in trade just spelled 'feature' as 'feacher'. that's a first |
| 03:23.36 | Mirrormn | "One who feaches" |
| 03:23.42 | Parnic | lol |
| 03:23.51 | Parnic | teach a man to feach and feed him for life |
| 03:24.32 | Megalon | I'd rather be a feacher than a Fisker |
| 03:24.51 | Mirrormn | I'd rather be anything than a Fisker, for he is the lowest form of life |
| 03:25.47 | Copperman | lol |
| 03:26.59 | doom0r | [T] [Pity]: lf dentist to talk to pst |
| 03:27.08 | doom0r | so sad |
| 03:27.28 | Copperman | http://webupon.com/social-networks/i-like-the-new-feacher-for-triond/ |
| 03:28.03 | Parnic | "I do hope to get some but I will have to wait and see." |
| 03:28.27 | Parnic | man, apostrophes, commas, and spelling are not that person's forte |
| 03:28.35 | doom0r | The more people that like it. |
| 03:28.40 | doom0r | grammatical prowress |
| 03:29.01 | doom0r | s/prowress/prowess |
| 03:29.08 | doom0r | ~fail doom0r |
| 03:29.08 | purl | You suck at everything in life, doom0r. I hate you because you fail. |
| 03:29.19 | doom0r | sulks away |
| 03:29.19 | Parnic | wow, purl is especially hars tonight |
| 03:29.22 | Parnic | harsh.....dangit. |
| 03:29.56 | Copperman | trolling is still a art ;) |
| 03:30.20 | Copperman | so much so you can get people to troll themselves :D |
| 03:31.12 | Parnic | my favorite troll on our realm is this guy that shows up and says "if it's called invincible horse, why can i still see it?" inevitably the entire trade channel turns into a discussion of invisible vs invincible |
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| 03:32.40 | Copperman | heehee, Im a terrible troll when the mood takes me, although I tend to aim at the obviously stupid :d |
| 03:33.30 | Mirrormn | Parnic, my server is immune to that now |
| 03:33.34 | Mirrormn | cause it happens so often |
| 03:33.38 | Parnic | heh |
| 03:33.38 | bluspacecow | like people who complain about not being able to download patchs on a collegue network and demand blizzard do something about it cause they're paying blizzard $15/month ? |
| 03:34.03 | Mirrormn | we also get "Why do they call it an XBox 360? Cause when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away" |
| 03:34.13 | Parnic | yeah that one's popular on my realm too |
| 03:34.20 | Copperman | im on scarlet crusade, odd for an UE resident I know, but it makes for a lot of fun in /2 |
| 03:34.57 | bluspacecow | erm |
| 03:35.09 | bluspacecow | isn't 360 degrees back to where you were ? |
| 03:35.15 | Parnic | ~fail bluspacecow |
| 03:35.15 | purl | bluspacecow: FAIL! |
| 03:35.27 | Mirrormn | that's the point, bluspacecow |
| 03:35.29 | Copperman | lol failtroll fails |
| 03:35.33 | Mirrormn | it's a multi-level troll ^_^ |
| 03:35.36 | Megalon | believe it or not, you can walk away in every direction |
| 03:35.43 | Mirrormn | cause straight-out trolling doesn't work anymore |
| 03:35.48 | Mirrormn | on teh interblags |
| 03:35.48 | Parnic | megalon: you just blew my mind |
| 03:35.48 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 03:35.51 | bluspacecow | i dang got trolled |
| 03:35.58 | bluspacecow | hot damn ! |
| 03:36.03 | Copperman | it's a art |
| 03:38.33 | thelibrarian | i've seen a couple realms where the popular troll is saying or asking something in trade referring to samus aran as a "he" |
| 03:38.49 | Mirrormn | yeah, we get that one too |
| 03:38.59 | Mirrormn | how are all of these things so multi-realm |
| 03:39.22 | Parnic | i think people actually play on multiple realms |
| 03:39.29 | Parnic | all my characters are on the same one, though |
| 03:40.09 | Megalon | on german realm they just try to make funny sentences with Anal+[itemlink] |
| 03:40.18 | thelibrarian | that's every realm Megalon |
| 03:40.35 | Megalon | but it has oldschool alterac timespans |
| 03:40.38 | Copperman | we get that every 3rd saturday or so |
| 03:40.41 | Parnic | badboy_ccleaner to the rescue |
| 03:40.43 | Megalon | it's like you log out |
| 03:40.47 | Megalon | log on, still going |
| 03:40.56 | Parnic | have you seen massive legendary item spam? |
| 03:41.06 | Parnic | where they'll link thunderfury in the middle of their sentence for no reason? |
| 03:41.08 | Parnic | and everyone does it |
| 03:41.22 | Copperman | same, or warglaives... |
| 03:41.26 | Megalon | isn't it always the same pattern |
| 03:41.32 | Megalon | one starts with something |
| 03:41.41 | Megalon | every 'oh, me so funny' guys on the realm |
| 03:41.42 | Megalon | repeat |
| 03:41.43 | Parnic | i had to add 'thunderfury, blessed blade' to ccleaner :X |
| 03:42.04 | doom0r | i empty the last three of an item off the ah and the morons still undercut the old prices |
| 03:42.40 | Copperman | we have a guy on our realm trying to sell the LK mount for 200k lol added to my iguana list :D |
| 03:43.17 | Copperman | he's been at it for weeks now |
| 03:43.50 | Mirrormn | there was a guy in my guild who bought a LK mount from some guy for 75k |
| 03:43.56 | Parnic | doom0r: alright, i think i got the buffs compressed as good as i care to for now :P http://imgur.com/IufR3.png |
| 03:44.07 | Mirrormn | and then later sold it back to the same guy for 85k |
| 03:44.18 | Mirrormn | and then bought it from that guy *again* for 65k |
| 03:44.27 | Parnic | hahahaha |
| 03:44.49 | Copperman | wth |
| 03:45.14 | Copperman | fuck man, one mount is as good as another, unless ofcource its a free 310% flyer |
| 03:45.16 | Mirrormn | it was over the course of like 3 days |
| 03:45.55 | Parnic | can you still get the 310% from the "long, strange trip" achievement and be granted the skill? |
| 03:46.01 | Parnic | or did you have to have it prior to the change? |
| 03:46.04 | doom0r | prior |
| 03:46.11 | doom0r | grandfathered |
| 03:46.12 | Parnic | wow that's harsh |
| 03:46.14 | Parnic | glad i already had it |
| 03:46.29 | Parnic | sort of kills the achievement since proto-drakes aren't *that* uncommon now |
| 03:46.40 | Copperman | back in the day, as a dwarf engi, i ground out my gnome rep for the mount because the gnome mount was befitting an engineer... |
| 03:51.36 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r737 modules/TargetInfo.lua: |
| 03:51.37 | Repo | - made all buffs/debuffs display on the info modules when in configuration mode |
| 03:51.38 | Repo | - compressed buffs/debuffs on the info modules so that they will not make room for a large buff if the previous row never had a large buff on it. this fixes every row being separated by enough vertical space to make room for the larger of "buff size" and "own buff size" settings |
| 03:53.00 | Copperman | lol @ parnic, that's a very convoluted description |
| 03:54.16 | Parnic | i know....i tried. |
| 03:54.35 | Parnic | i should have just put "old: http://www.parnic.com/images/buffs.png - new: http://www.parnic.com/images/buffs_2.png " |
| 03:55.31 | doom0r | should have just put, buffs: packed it in tight |
| 03:55.47 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r219 / (6 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 03:55.48 | Repo | - Renamed ViewSet to View, and ViewSetCollection to ViewCollection. Refactored some tested in ViewCollection to eliminate redundant code. Implemented setting the grid scale in ViewCollection. |
| 03:57.14 | Copperman | or, fuck off and use satrina's :D |
| 03:57.40 | Copperman | sorry, is it ok to curse in #wowace? |
| 03:58.46 | doom0r | without being excessive/beligerent, never saw anyone really complain |
| 03:59.05 | Parnic | unless it's directed at somebody :P |
| 03:59.19 | Copperman | that's ok then, i have a habit of swearing from time to time, where I see fit :DF |
| 03:59.38 | Parnic | now i'm all self conscious about what the changelog should say for that fix |
| 03:59.43 | Parnic | thanks a lot, copperman! |
| 03:59.48 | Copperman | oh I rarely direct it :d |
| 04:00.05 | doom0r | most people don't read changelogs |
| 04:00.14 | Parnic | unfortunately |
| 04:00.21 | Copperman | parnic: what ever you feel is right, it's your change log |
| 04:00.31 | Parnic | no no no, now i have to think about what copperman feels is right too |
| 04:00.45 | doom0r | i saw the best bumper sticker last year |
| 04:00.52 | Copperman | I feel might comment is more direct, but your is probably friendlier |
| 04:00.52 | doom0r | "Who cares what people think?" |
| 04:00.58 | doom0r | "They usually don't." |
| 04:01.45 | doom0r | rather, why care what people think |
| 04:02.11 | Mirrormn | I think I am going to start writing poetry in my change logs |
| 04:02.17 | bluspacecow | @copperman i would be creative ... like swear in sanskrit or klingon |
| 04:02.22 | Copperman | indeed, it's what you think that really counts, or not :D |
| 04:02.32 | bluspacecow | or galifrayan |
| 04:02.48 | Copperman | bluspacecow: fuck that |
| 04:03.20 | bluspacecow | or this http://www.pinktoque.com/murloc-translator/ |
| 04:03.29 | Copperman | anyway, the only klingon dictionary I ever had I gave to a friend for his 30th birthday |
| 04:03.30 | bluspacecow | no wait |
| 04:03.34 | bluspacecow | say it in hex or binary |
| 04:03.38 | bluspacecow | giggles |
| 04:04.24 | Copperman | kemumlru chrwmmch |
| 04:04.28 | doom0r | if you swear in esperanto though, ckk will know |
| 04:04.30 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 04:04.32 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 04:04.44 | bluspacecow | i never knew that was physically possible |
| 04:05.10 | Copperman | lol |
| 04:07.59 | Copperman | fiki tio :D |
| 04:08.51 | Copperman | either wya, Im only prone to profanity when I deem it necessary |
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| 04:16.51 | Copperman | gentlemen, it has been an interesting evening, but now i must retire :D goodnight to one and all :D |
| 04:17.15 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 04:17.20 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.27 | Copperman | :o |
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| 04:23.20 | doom0r | i'm a pally, i run a random heroic, i double the mages damage across the whole instance in a multi-mob-fights instance, healer heals the tank who doesn't ever lose health, and lets me die on last boss, then leaves without rez |
| 04:23.26 | doom0r | sad all around |
| 04:32.10 | starlon | bangs his head on keyboard. |
| 04:32.24 | doom0r | pebkac? |
| 04:46.00 | quiescens | moo |
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| 05:49.40 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r53 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 9 lines) |
| 05:49.41 | Repo | * Completely reworked the crowd control section. |
| 05:49.42 | Repo | Now based off Malazee's huge cc/pvp ability spreadsheet. |
| 05:49.43 | Repo | The organization of abilities in RaidChecklist differs quite a bit from the |
| 05:49.44 | Repo | spreadsheet though. The intent here is to make it as easy as possible to see |
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| 05:54.24 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r36 / (5 files in 2 directories): O wond'rous be this bounty, fill'd with text |
| 05:54.25 | Repo | That whereby shall your feature set be grown |
| 05:54.26 | Repo | And whenst I shall be moved to update next |
| 05:54.27 | Repo | Thy tangled body, truth, cannot be known |
| 05:54.35 | Mirrormn | now that's a commit message |
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| 06:14.51 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r54 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 06:14.53 | Repo | * Internal changes to make it obvious if I mistype any ability keywords. |
| 06:14.55 | Repo | This should remove one source of bugs at least. |
| 06:20.57 | Repo | 10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 044.0.0beta16 * r55 : |
| 06:20.58 | Repo | Tagging as 4.0.0beta16, now with a massively revamped Crowd Control section. |
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| 06:58.48 | orionshock | ~toc |
| 06:58.48 | purl | i guess toc is The current WoW Interface Number is: 40000, or magical |
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| 07:19.19 | selckin | anyone know an addon that will let my copy my bars/buttons betwean dual spec swaps? |
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| 07:35.11 | doom0r | @describe button-cloner |
| 07:35.12 | Repo | doom0r: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/button-cloner/. Button Cloner. Copy your action bar buttons between specs |
| 07:35.18 | doom0r | selckin: ^ |
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| 08:13.59 | Repo | 10conditioner: 03Rabbit * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update for 4.0. |
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| 10:38.22 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r24 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:38.23 | Repo | * fixed ticket #17 (Blizzard combo points shown although target frame is hidden) |
| 10:38.24 | Repo | * fixes for ticket #18 (grayed combo points when in a group) |
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| 11:14.13 | quiescens | nil this, nil that |
| 11:17.15 | pb_ee1 | Does anybody know how to get the color of the class of a player that talks in the chat? |
| 11:17.23 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar, maybe any clue? |
| 11:19.36 | nevcairiel | chat messages send you the unit GUID |
| 11:19.44 | nevcairiel | with the guid, you can lookup the class |
| 11:19.51 | nevcairiel | with the class, you can lookup the color |
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| 11:23.40 | Repo | 10visualheal: 03xbeeps * r70 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 11:23.41 | Repo | Fix the this->self errors and commit some changes that never made it earlier. |
| 11:24.22 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r220 Classes/ViewCollection.lua: FBagOfHolding: |
| 11:24.23 | Repo | - Refactored more tests for ViewCollection. |
| 11:24.25 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:24.33 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: thanks. Just found it by looking into ChatFrame.lua |
| 11:24.46 | pb_ee1 | Should have looked more deeply before asking, sorry for the bothering |
| 11:25.00 | Repo | 10libbackdrop-1-0: 03mangeg 07master * 1.0.7-4-gc67fc1c LibBackdrop-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Nan -> NaN |
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| 11:36.33 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: what nev said |
| 11:36.49 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Thank you so much. |
| 11:37.55 | sylvanaar | its arg12, or for prat m.GUID |
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| 11:55.19 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r39 ProfessionBars.lua: Re-fixing the 4.0 fix. |
| 11:56.50 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r40 ProfessionBars.lua: Fixed nightmare vine not being millable. |
| 12:01.58 | vhaarr | okay so look at this addon http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/required2raid/ I just noticed it by random chance |
| 12:02.13 | vhaarr | so I figured "fuck that shit, I'll block it with DBMFTLBBQ just in case it becomes popular" |
| 12:02.27 | vhaarr | so I check it out (the author, amazingly, uses svn) |
| 12:02.34 | vhaarr | open the code and start tracing it around, and find this |
| 12:02.42 | vhaarr | for i, v in next, topMemberFrames do v:Hide() end |
| 12:02.47 | vhaarr | for i, v in next, bottomMemberFrames do v:Hide() end |
| 12:03.03 | vhaarr | and think to myself "next? this guys code is shit, he doesn't know about next vs ipairs" |
| 12:03.07 | vhaarr | and suddenly I realise I've seen it before |
| 12:03.18 | vhaarr | and turns out he copied the oRA3 ready check window almost verbatim |
| 12:04.08 | vhaarr | local yoff = ((math.ceil(top / 2) * 14) + 37) * -1 |
| 12:04.16 | vhaarr | this line pretty much proves it :P |
| 12:05.52 | vhaarr | obviously there's no mention of oRA3 anywhere in the code, TOC or addon description |
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| 12:06.25 | vhaarr | Ackis, Kaelten, Torhal ^ |
| 12:06.30 | sylvanaar | attribution is hit or miss |
| 12:06.40 | sylvanaar | people really should do it |
| 12:06.43 | vhaarr | oRA3 is All Rights Reserved, sylv |
| 12:06.56 | vhaarr | he needs to ask for explicit permission |
| 12:07.00 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 12:11.41 | sylvanaar | its nice to see alot of people back for the xpac |
| 12:13.20 | [Ammo] | bring out the pack of gay gorillas for some asswhooping :) |
| 12:15.14 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r150 / (3 files in 1 directory): changes for secure |
| 12:17.38 | harl | wth.. i wish i knew why logging in still takes like ages for me sometimes |
| 12:18.09 | pb_ee1 | harl: same problem here |
| 12:18.10 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r200 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Proudly adding class colors in chats! :] |
| 12:18.11 | Repo | - Renaming arg1, ... to more readable names in Event.lua |
| 12:18.12 | harl | doesn't do that without add-ons afaik |
| 12:18.32 | pompy | [Ammo]: its nice that witchhunt still seems to work. |
| 12:19.15 | harl | but i've got absolutely no clue what's wrong, especially since it's not the same delay every time |
| 12:20.15 | harl | got any idea what's causing it, pb_ee1? |
| 12:20.25 | pb_ee1 | Nope unfortunately |
| 12:20.38 | pb_ee1 | I know my connection isn't quick, maybe it does have some border effects, maybe nothing related |
| 12:22.06 | harl | shouldn't be my connection at all |
| 12:22.26 | pompy | has anyone made a mod that fixes the blizz bug where when you log off it claims that all of your BN friends that are currently online, went offline. |
| 12:24.31 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles * r58 MBB.lua: MBB:- |
| 12:24.32 | Repo | Fix event variables loaded no longer exists |
| 12:25.04 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles 04v4.01 * r59 : MBB:- |
| 12:25.06 | Repo | Release v4.01 to curse.com |
| 12:27.25 | ccKep | (13:03:13) vhaarr: local yoff = ((math.ceil(top / 2) * 14) + 37) * -1 |
| 12:27.27 | ccKep | wtf |
| 12:29.30 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1143 Tracker.lua: - Add detail tracking for guessed absorb components. |
| 12:29.49 | harl | also, on a side note, gay wolves are much more sexy than gay gorillas imho. |
| 12:32.25 | ccKep | anyone recommend some UFs with boss-unitid support? |
| 12:32.58 | Stanzilla | SUF? |
| 12:33.22 | ccKep | been using pitbull for years, so I really don't know whats "state of the art" :D |
| 12:34.21 | Stanzilla | Shefki just needs to finish his secrect branch of pb and it will have boss units :P |
| 12:34.43 | Pneumatus | hahaha wildhammer fact checker |
| 12:35.53 | Torhal | vhaarr: Is that all he copied? |
| 12:36.21 | ccKep | he's been on that for month (not going to bitch about that, really love pb) |
| 12:37.01 | nevcairiel | I really do wonder whats so complicated about the boss units |
| 12:37.19 | nevcairiel | just another bunch of onupdate driven units |
| 12:38.29 | ccKep | been wondering that a few month ago too... but thought it might be due to some events not firing for boss-uids and pbs event-handling |
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| 12:38.50 | nevcairiel | but there is other units, like targettarget, that dont fire any events |
| 12:39.05 | ccKep | hmmm... right |
| 12:44.33 | Torhal | vhaarr: Fuck it, I'll just say "this project contains code from oRA3, which is an All Rights Reserved project" in the Changes Required message. |
| 12:44.51 | Torhal | Make him tryto remember what he stole from where. |
| 12:55.49 | vhaarr | right, I didn't check what else he might have copied |
| 12:56.01 | vhaarr | ccKep: what? |
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| 12:57.31 | vhaarr | y offset = top part of window / 2 * height of individual players + height of window separator (37) * -1 for converting to negative and ceil for rounding |
| 12:57.35 | vhaarr | is that weird? |
| 12:58.23 | nevcairiel | i would put that line as a comment abvor, but other then that, its all fine |
| 12:59.54 | vhaarr | well if you read the code it's pretty obvious |
| 13:00.57 | nevcairiel | magic numbers just get confusing sometimes |
| 13:01.02 | nevcairiel | but i didnt look at the context |
| 13:01.51 | Repo | 10craftyalts: 03schiwik 04v1.1 * a34acb1 /: [new tag, +1 commits] tagging version 1.1 |
| 13:02.21 | vhaarr | yeah I know, once an outside contributor starts asking questions and committing fixes then perhaps my stance on commenting things will change |
| 13:02.38 | vhaarr | but for now, only ammo and me need to understand anyway |
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| 13:03.32 | vhaarr | anyway if a random, shitty project like this contains copied speciality code, it makes me wonder how many other cases there might be |
| 13:04.44 | pompy | vhaarr: download the whole curse addon db and grep! |
| 13:05.42 | vhaarr | would be fun, but it's a very complicated task |
| 13:06.29 | vhaarr | especially since common code is fine to copy, but when you copy every aspect of a UI like this, without asking permission (which he probably would've gotten), that's another thing entirely |
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| 13:19.12 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Thought about allowing Bootycall to not report epics while in 5-man parties? |
| 13:19.39 | vhaarr | not really, I enjoy the information and come cata+5mans it will be even more interesting |
| 13:19.54 | nevcairiel | except that cata 5mans dont drop epics |
| 13:20.20 | vhaarr | they will, eventually, and you know it :D |
| 13:20.54 | nevcairiel | not the 5mans on release, and even if some do that get patched in later, who cares, we all have raid epics then |
| 13:21.13 | vhaarr | yes true, but alts won't, and there's also random world drops |
| 13:21.21 | vhaarr | it's not like it /spams/ guild chat anyway |
| 13:22.04 | nevcairiel | i can see how its annoying right now |
| 13:22.23 | vhaarr | I disagree, 2 others in my guild use it and they are gearing up alts, I like seeing the drops they get |
| 13:22.58 | vhaarr | but I understand that some people might find it annoying |
| 13:23.09 | nevcairiel | i farm classic and bc instances for some rare mounts, i wouldnt care for the funny epics that i get while doing so :D |
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| 13:23.55 | nevcairiel | one of those is a raid though, so the argument is off again :D |
| 13:24.04 | vhaarr | okay so that's 2 options I "need" |
| 13:24.21 | vhaarr | minimum item level slider and 5man toggle |
| 13:24.31 | vhaarr | Hjalte: go ahead, repository is open :P |
| 13:24.52 | nevcairiel | i dont particularly care, was just putting my opinion out there :) |
| 13:25.16 | vhaarr | I know, hence pinging Hjalte |
| 13:25.42 | Hjalte | You wouldn't want me to touch anything coding related :) |
| 13:26.01 | nevcairiel | speaking of classic instances, off to ZG |
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| 13:31.54 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-2: 03Whitetooth * r25 / (2 files in 2 directories): - :GetEffectFromMastery(mastery[, specid][, class]) |
| 13:31.55 | Repo | - .MasteryEffect |
| 13:31.56 | Repo | - .MasterSpells |
| 13:32.18 | vhaarr | anyone else having problems logging in to battle.net? |
| 13:33.56 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-2: 03Whitetooth * r26 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua: - Fix typo: .MasterySpells |
| 13:34.07 | pompy | vhaarr: nope worked here, us side at least |
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| 13:45.17 | Rokiyo | !api SetFont |
| 13:45.17 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'SetFont': FontInstance:SetFontObject, SimpleHTML:SetFont, Button:SetFontString, SimpleHTML:SetFontObject, FontInstance:SetFont |
| 13:45.36 | Rokiyo | !api FontInstance:SetFont |
| 13:45.36 | lua_bot | FontInstance:SetFont: Sets the font instance's basic font properties (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/SetFont) |
| 13:46.35 | vhaarr | pompy: ah I see it was time sync issues because we changed to winter time today |
| 13:46.41 | vhaarr | so the auth generated the wrong key |
| 13:47.11 | nevcairiel | you using some standalone auth thingy? :p |
| 13:47.18 | nevcairiel | we changed as well, and no issues :) |
| 13:47.40 | vhaarr | no, mobile auth |
| 13:47.45 | vhaarr | and cell phone had not changed time |
| 13:47.49 | nevcairiel | ah, ok |
| 13:50.47 | pompy | ah we dont change till nov 7th i guess |
| 13:51.04 | vhaarr | it's annoying with people who write tickets and never come back |
| 13:51.20 | nevcairiel | thats usually curse client tickets |
| 13:52.02 | vhaarr | yeah those have the addon list and stuff right? |
| 13:52.06 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:53.01 | Torhal | I wish Kaelten could convince Adamar to adopt his ticketing cyctem for the Windows CC4 |
| 13:53.16 | pompy | or people who report something of the same thing over and over and over http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/tickets/1063-jc-recipes-on-scan-total-is-off/ ugh |
| 13:53.17 | Torhal | system* |
| 13:53.21 | pompy | heh |
| 13:53.44 | pompy | thanks oscarucb lol |
| 13:55.05 | Torhal | If you were as OCD as you claim to be, pompy, that shit would already be fixed and those tickets wouldn't exist. :D |
| 13:55.18 | pompy | heh |
| 13:55.21 | pompy | "When using this addon, I find that some of my trade skills, most notably Tailoring and Blacksmithing, have its recipe lists shortened and some of the functionality removed. Turning off this addon, enables me to see the full recipe list and have full control of the profession unit frame. " |
| 13:55.22 | pompy | lol what |
| 13:55.25 | nevcairiel | Im still not convinced by the whole plan of writing two seperate curse clients |
| 13:55.39 | nevcairiel | there are toolkits for good cross plattform apps |
| 13:56.01 | Torhal | Yah, kinda boggles me too, though Mac users have a "It doesn't look native!" fetish |
| 13:56.23 | nevcairiel | and doubble the effort just to please mac users OCD? |
| 13:56.27 | nevcairiel | well, its their money |
| 13:56.27 | pompy | nevcairiel: yeah tehres a .net equivalent for like linux/mac or something called moon(something) |
| 13:56.28 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 13:56.36 | nevcairiel | mono |
| 13:56.39 | pompy | ah yeah that |
| 13:56.45 | Torhal | Well, I think it's more that Adamar insisted on .NET which OS X doesn't support |
| 13:57.03 | nevcairiel | I would've gone with Qt or something, that looks good on mac as well |
| 13:57.16 | Torhal | That was initially what I'd heard they were going to use |
| 13:57.20 | vhaarr | Qt, Gtk or XUL |
| 13:57.38 | pompy | Torhal: http://www.mono-project.com/Mono:OSX |
| 13:58.03 | Torhal | pompy: Doesn't matter. CC4 is using .NET shit which Mono doesn't support |
| 13:58.08 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 13:58.14 | nevcairiel | they had to shoot for the newest of the newest |
| 13:58.21 | nevcairiel | which is fail in itself for production software |
| 13:58.41 | nevcairiel | and as a result, CC looks like itunes |
| 13:58.45 | nevcairiel | gogo native |
| 13:59.22 | vhaarr | do you guys have spotify in germany? |
| 13:59.25 | vhaarr | I guess so |
| 13:59.30 | nevcairiel | not the free version |
| 13:59.48 | vhaarr | there's this competitor starting up now called "wimp", and their client is coded in fucking flash |
| 14:00.13 | nevcairiel | stuff like spotify doesnt work too well in germany, our laws are fucked up |
| 14:00.35 | nevcairiel | licensing is a bitch for them |
| 14:00.45 | vhaarr | yeah some major record labels bailed on them as well |
| 14:01.16 | vhaarr | but it's not something you should support anyway, the artists signed by labels who are aggregated there get almost no royalties |
| 14:01.40 | vhaarr | this independent musician who listed his tracks on spotify got more money returns from 10000 downloads than lady gaga in total |
| 14:01.56 | vhaarr | I don't remember the exact figures but they were disgusting |
| 14:02.02 | nevcairiel | sure, but big artists are always with some big ass label |
| 14:02.30 | vhaarr | not always |
| 14:02.33 | vhaarr | well, they were |
| 14:02.36 | vhaarr | but that's changing now |
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| 14:02.51 | vhaarr | The Eagles, Supertramp and what's that other rock band from the 60/70's |
| 14:02.59 | vhaarr | their contracts are expiring around this time |
| 14:03.02 | vhaarr | and they are not renewing :P |
| 14:03.06 | nevcairiel | unless you are happy with online distribution, pushing out cds is hard for them do solo |
| 14:03.32 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r315 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:03.33 | Repo | - New: StatSummary: Protection Warriors and Paladins now shows Block Chance from Mastery |
| 14:03.38 | Hjalte | Adirelle: Is it possible for the moonfire button to be lit when sunfire is active on the target in Inline Aura? |
| 14:03.40 | vhaarr | indeed, but after these big bands stop renewing their contracts, hopefully it'll have a ripple effect |
| 14:03.53 | nevcairiel | dunno if someone was smart enough to fill that void |
| 14:03.54 | vhaarr | and either bands get better terms or some other solution emerges |
| 14:04.00 | nevcairiel | offer fair conditions as a label |
| 14:04.04 | vhaarr | right |
| 14:04.12 | vhaarr | there probably are some that do |
| 14:04.19 | vhaarr | like the norwegian state owned recording studio |
| 14:04.20 | vhaarr | they do |
| 14:04.32 | nevcairiel | some artits also just opened their own label |
| 14:09.29 | Stanzilla | ar tits |
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| 14:11.50 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.4-24-g9bffc33 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] clean up .pkgmeta a little |
| 14:12.38 | pompy | nice /guildinfo prints out "Guild:" as the first line.. without the guild name |
| 14:14.08 | Hati | Deepcopying widget api doesn't work do i get this correct ? (atleast not by a simple deepcopy function) |
| 14:16.39 | Rokiyo | !api error |
| 14:16.39 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'error' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-error |
| 14:17.50 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r221 / (4 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 14:17.51 | Repo | - Added method to PropertyCollection to take a filter definition and compile it into a filter function that can be passed into the search engine. Moved the And, Or, and Not filter definitions out of FBoH.lua and into PropertyCollection.lua. |
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| 14:23.43 | Hati | is there a way to get rid of frames correctly till next ui-reload ? simply wiping their tables seem a bit weird |
| 14:24.54 | vhaarr | you can't |
| 14:24.57 | Hati | k |
| 14:25.41 | Hati | so i should have to hide them before :x |
| 14:27.17 | Mikk | the tables are only a refrence to the UI object |
| 14:27.23 | Mikk | you can destroy the table |
| 14:27.26 | Mikk | but the frame will remain |
| 14:27.37 | Mikk | (and the table really doesn't have anything in it... it's just an empty table with a metatable set on it) |
| 14:31.49 | nevcairiel | and a ref to the userdata |
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| 14:32.54 | Knaledge | Morning everyone :) |
| 14:33.50 | Knaledge | quick question: I have transitioned from AuctionMaster to Auctionator and I miss the functionality of AuctionMaster that accounted for "sniping" items from the AH that were listed with a Buyout lower than the vendor sell price. |
| 14:34.06 | Knaledge | Does anyone have any recommendation for a replacement addon to fulfill that functionality? |
| 14:34.32 | Knaledge | I'd make a suggestion via CurseForge to Auctionator but it seems ticketing is disabled for that project :( |
| 14:34.59 | Repo | 10wowunit: 03feithar * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): WoWUnit: |
| 14:35.00 | Repo | - Changed equality helper functions so if the same object is passed as both parameters, they are considered equal without further checking (to prevent stack overflows when checking to see is a particular large table is passed during a test). |
| 14:43.22 | pompy | @ping |
| 14:43.23 | Repo | pong |
| 14:43.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * 2.0.4-25-g4ad7dc4 core.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed issue where the unknown recipes of your professions wasn't showing in a unit's tooltip. |
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| 14:48.49 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r201 Interface.lua: - Fixing copy window for normal text and BBCode |
| 14:48.50 | Repo | - It is not possible to copy Battle.net messages anymore due to limitations from Blizzard's framework AND to protect privacy of the user |
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| 14:52.37 | Adirelle | Hjalte, probably |
| 14:55.28 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r202 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:55.29 | Repo | - Adding warning message about Battle.net messages not being copyable on Copy button |
| 14:55.30 | Repo | - Adding enUS & frFR locale |
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| 15:00.51 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r222 / (3 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 15:00.52 | Repo | - ViewCollection must now be initialized with a PropertyCollection that can be used to build item filters. Views are now able to refresh their item filters. |
| 15:04.39 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: ping |
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| 15:11.23 | Parnic|mobile | Rokiyo: nothing in font handling has changed in months :P |
| 15:12.13 | Rokiyo | brace yourself |
| 15:12.23 | Rokiyo | i've sent a tonne of spam at Parnic's query window |
| 15:12.32 | nevcairiel | !api Frame:CreateTexture |
| 15:12.32 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateTexture: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/Texture|`Texture`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateTexture) |
| 15:12.43 | Parnic|mobile | Oh great. Well I won't be able to read it til I get home |
| 15:13.52 | Parnic|mobile | People should stop running nolib if they don't know how to update it properly :) |
| 15:14.07 | Rokiyo | i haven't completely nailed down why FontInstance:SetFont() is occasionally failing, but it is :P |
| 15:14.27 | Rokiyo | it seems to be something in the way we're retreiving the font from SharedMediaLib |
| 15:14.56 | Rokiyo | other addons are retreiving that same font just fine... so I doubt it's the Lib's fault |
| 15:15.23 | Parnic|mobile | It's just a Fetch. LSM gives a fallback font if the one you ask for isn't found. So I'm confused. |
| 15:15.42 | Parnic|mobile | Did you reproduce it yourself? |
| 15:16.17 | Rokiyo | well i've found a way to reproduce it, but I'm not convinced that's the same way our users are getting the problem |
| 15:16.56 | Rokiyo | if I set IceHUD to use a font provided by another addon, then delete/rename the font file but leave the rest of the addon intact |
| 15:17.00 | Rokiyo | that addon still attempts to register that font |
| 15:17.12 | Parnic|mobile | Alright well I'll check up on that later. |
| 15:17.13 | Rokiyo | and so LSM still lists it as a valid font |
| 15:17.30 | Rokiyo | but if that's what was going on, all his addons would have broken |
| 15:17.33 | Rokiyo | not just IceHUD |
| 15:18.02 | Parnic|mobile | Unless the others do more validation on the font than I'm doing. |
| 15:18.32 | Rokiyo | FontInstance:SetFont() returns -1 if it is succesful, and nil if it isn't |
| 15:18.55 | arkanes | boo curse client |
| 15:19.05 | Rokiyo | we can wrap it with a if not (SetFont(...)) |
| 15:19.33 | Rokiyo | doing that on my installed allowed me to force it to revert to a default WoW font if it failed to use the custom one |
| 15:19.51 | Parnic|mobile | That would be safest. Just use frizqt fallback then. |
| 15:20.33 | Rokiyo | the only downside is that a user might then get confused as to why IceHUD is mysteriously and silently ignoring their font choices |
| 15:20.35 | arkanes | checking the result of SetFont is pretty uncommon, I'd think |
| 15:20.48 | arkanes | do you know what font he's using? |
| 15:20.58 | Rokiyo | Liberation Serif |
| 15:21.19 | Rokiyo | he doesn't know which addon is supplying it, but i suspect shared-media-additional-fonts |
| 15:21.30 | Rokiyo | he uses that font everywhere apparently |
| 15:21.35 | Rokiyo | bartender, etc |
| 15:21.43 | arkanes | baffling |
| 15:21.49 | Parnic|mobile | Ignore font > error :). I'll go see what prat does. Sylvanaar probably has seen something like this before |
| 15:21.51 | Rokiyo | and none of the other addons had a problem even while IceHUD was throwing a hissy fit about it |
| 15:23.27 | Rokiyo | personally I'm tempted to go: if not (SetFont(font, ...)) then error("Failed to load font:" .. font) end |
| 15:23.41 | Rokiyo | or something to that effect to give us more info on the stack trace |
| 15:23.57 | Rokiyo | so we can get a better picture of what's going on |
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| 15:24.18 | Parnic|mobile | Waiting for users to give us more info rarely works out :P |
| 15:24.28 | Hirsute-Zzzz | heh |
| 15:24.59 | Rokiyo | error("Please go to <url> and file a ticket. Please. No really. I mean it") |
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| 15:25.13 | Rokiyo | :P |
| 15:26.14 | Parnic|mobile | Just look at other mods like bartender or prat. Icehud handles late font registrations so failing silently may not be bad if the font shows up later. |
| 15:27.13 | Rokiyo | alrighty |
| 15:28.09 | Parnic|mobile | Gotta run |
| 15:28.54 | Kaelten | Torhal: ? |
| 15:30.02 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r203 Event.lua: - Bugfix when guid == "" |
| 15:30.56 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r204 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Adding option to disable class colors in logs |
| 15:30.57 | Repo | - Moving a bit the options to get them even more clearer |
| 15:30.58 | Repo | - Adding associated locale |
| 15:31.55 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r205 Message.lua: Some doc. |
| 15:32.12 | arkanes | curse login down for anyone else? |
| 15:33.29 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 043.0.6-beta * r206 : Tagging as 3.0.6-beta |
| 15:34.40 | vhaarr | arkanes: I'm logged in to wowace.com at least |
| 15:34.47 | vhaarr | but it's cookie login |
| 15:35.53 | Rokiyo | I haven't been logged out of curse |
| 15:36.03 | Rokiyo | but yeh, that's not the same as failing to log in :P |
| 15:36.17 | arkanes | curse client can't log in, I'm able to log into the website but its painfully slow |
| 15:37.00 | quiescens | you broke it |
| 15:37.19 | arkanes | I think I did |
| 15:38.00 | arkanes | oh now its fast |
| 15:38.02 | arkanes | someone did something :P |
| 15:39.23 | quiescens | sure sure |
| 15:39.45 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r2 / (11 files in 4 directories): initial commit |
| 15:40.45 | Rokiyo | parnic: icehud seems to be doing pretty much the same thing prat does when it comes to font setting |
| 15:41.25 | Rokiyo | there are a few more nil checks in rpat, i'm looking into how they might affect things |
| 15:41.27 | Rokiyo | prat* |
| 15:42.19 | Repo | 10libbabble-subzone-3-0: 03arith * r37 LibBabble-SubZone-3.0.lua: added Temple of Ahn'Qiraj |
| 15:42.49 | arkanes | wow, curse client advertising network. It's showing me a localized add for half off massages, complete with picture naked being massaged lady |
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| 15:43.29 | nevcairiel | finally some useful ads |
| 15:43.39 | Lysithea | how would I go about to add some text after the both itemlinks in this macro?: /run SendChatMessage("WTB "..select(2,GetItemInfo(17203))..select(2,GetItemInfo(11382)),"channel",nil,2) |
| 15:43.54 | Lysithea | the two* |
| 15:44.47 | Lysithea | my own limited knowledge tested to just add "something" after it but that didnt work too well :) |
| 15:45.06 | arkanes | Rokiyo: SharedMediaAdditionalFonts just had some changes, maybe it's related to a lib upgrade issue? |
| 15:47.07 | Rokiyo | hrm, that's worth looking into... This guy got the error after updating, and reinstalling icehud "fixed" it... |
| 15:47.44 | Rokiyo | parnic has older similar reports but I don't know where he's hiding them so I can't check if it was also immediately after an update for the others |
| 15:48.01 | arkanes | looks like they changed their use of emebds.xml |
| 15:48.34 | arkanes | change last night was the only one in nearly a year |
| 15:49.30 | Rokiyo | ah, well this has been an issue before last night |
| 15:49.34 | Rokiyo | so that might not be it after all :( |
| 15:49.59 | Rokiyo | Lysithea: .."my extra text".. |
| 15:50.26 | Rokiyo | the 2 dots are how you tack extra text in |
| 15:51.01 | Lysithea | ah, ofcourse |
| 15:51.03 | Lysithea | so simple :) |
| 15:51.04 | Lysithea | ty |
| 15:51.07 | Rokiyo | ./run SendChatMessage("WTB "..select(2,GetItemInfo(17203)) .. " YAY MORE TEXT!" .. select(2,GetItemInfo(11382)),"channel",nil,2) |
| 15:51.17 | Rokiyo | np |
| 15:51.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-subzone-3-0: 03arith * r38 LibBabble-SubZone-3.0.lua: Added The Eye |
| 15:52.08 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r207 Event.lua: |
| 15:52.09 | Repo | - Adding message to remember to register all events not managed by Prat in the future |
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| 15:55.20 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v3.3.1-3-gb42190c / (8 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 15:55.21 | Repo | b42190c: Add missing gfx. |
| 15:55.22 | Repo | d9910da: Add the ability to color the combo points, soul shards and holy power bars. Defaults to class colors. |
| 15:55.23 | Repo | 51c6376: - Soul Shards now use a new, unique icon - Changed defaults for soul shards to look better - Fixed z-fighting between soulshard/holypower bars, and indicators. |
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| 16:01.59 | Pneumatus | facepalms @ babble-subzone |
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| 16:05.19 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v3.3.1-4-ge351044 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Allow larger values for frame width/height and scale. |
| 16:06.32 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: i should shove him to CF with his silly library |
| 16:06.53 | Repo | 10whistle: 03Maat * r19 / (3 files in 2 directories): add zhCN and zhTW localizations |
| 16:07.08 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r414 Buffs.lua: RaidBuffStatus: |
| 16:07.08 | Repo | - Added Slacking Paladins detection. |
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| 16:10.35 | Repo | 10cooldownicons-revamped: 03xhatix * r13 / (10 files in 3 directories): some minor bug-fixes |
| 16:10.36 | Repo | added script cmds: Hide(), Show() |
| 16:10.37 | Repo | fixed ticket#12 |
| 16:10.38 | Repo | deletion "works" but not to 100% implemented (removing of last icon works without any problems) - lack of time might a fast-commit will fix it today otherwise next week full implenentation |
| 16:20.39 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v4.03 * r415 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 16:20.41 | Repo | - Tagged as stable. Talents are still broken. Awaiting fix from Blizz. |
| 16:28.28 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-2: 03Whitetooth * r27 LibStatLogic-1.2/LibStatLogic-1.2.lua: - Fixed: Titan Grip detection |
| 16:29.53 | Repo | 10adibags-pt3filter: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-1 * 714f4d7 /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.0-beta-1". |
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| 16:39.36 | arkanes | awesome, half my addons turned into pixel garbage |
| 16:39.46 | arkanes | and it happened when I installed icehud, so I blame parnic |
| 16:41.51 | Hjalte | Adirelle: At some point AdiBags left out some items from my Feral gear set but then when I moved an item from my bank to my bags it picked them up again and moved them to the right category. You've seen that before? |
| 16:42.27 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Rokiyo * r738 IceElement.lua: |
| 16:42.28 | Repo | - Handling late font registration by using a default font while we wait for a callback. |
| 16:43.31 | Slayman1 | So you say I should get myself a Macbook once the time is right, and I have the money to spare interesting |
| 16:44.22 | Rokiyo | !api CreateFontString |
| 16:44.23 | lua_bot | Frame:CreateFontString: Creates a new [[docs/widgets/FontString|`FontString`]] as a child of the frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateFontString) |
| 16:44.42 | Shadowed | nebula169 pong, whats up |
| 16:44.45 | Shadowed | er nevcairiel |
| 16:46.05 | nevcairiel | eh, about the "Hide Rune Bar" option .. did the runebar ever show up with the player frame itself hidden? Or did 4.0 break that? |
| 16:46.27 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 16:46.30 | Shadowed | pretty sure it didn't |
| 16:46.43 | Shadowed | the rune bar was parented to the player frame, so it couldn't |
| 16:46.50 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:46.55 | nevcairiel | whats the point of the option then |
| 16:47.36 | Shadowed | dunno |
| 16:47.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:47.57 | Shadowed | there probably was one |
| 16:49.37 | Repo | 10bt4-tinc (experimental): 03Farmbuyer * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Redone with new LAB callbacks. |
| 16:49.51 | Repo | 10bt4-tinc (experimental): 03Farmbuyer 04v1 * r4 : Tagging as v1 |
| 16:50.03 | nevcairiel | @describe bt4-tinc |
| 16:50.05 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bt4-tinc/. Bartender4-ThereIsNoCost. Hides reagent counter on action buttons when you have a glyph that removes reagent requirement. |
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| 16:55.52 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Rabbit * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): Major cleanups, drycoded. |
| 16:56.58 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: If you haven't seen yet, there's a UNIT_CONNECTION event that you can use to check if someone is online or offline, you could improve some parts like tags if you used UNIT_CONNECTION to trigger some of the offline tags rather than power |
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| 16:58.00 | nevcairiel | I think it only fires for coming back online |
| 16:58.36 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Rabbit * r4 Atramedes.lua: Lets not print % with floats. |
| 17:00.11 | Shadowed | Hrm are you sure? Blizzard uses it as if it's for both |
| 17:00.35 | nevcairiel | someone claimed that on the forums |
| 17:00.41 | Shadowed | interesting |
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| 17:01.19 | nevcairiel | should be easy enough to test |
| 17:01.39 | sbu | @describe atramedes |
| 17:01.40 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Raid level sound warning for Atramedes in Blackwing Descent |
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| 17:12.23 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Maat * r5 Atramedes.lua: rename the closeWindow function so it works |
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| 17:26.59 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Rabbit * r6 Textures/icons (2 files in 1 directory): Fix alpha channel. |
| 17:28.12 | sztanpet | @describe atramedes |
| 17:28.13 | Repo | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Raid level sound warning for Atramedes in Blackwing Descent |
| 17:28.47 | Rokiyo | this seems like a fun game |
| 17:28.52 | Rokiyo | @describe atramedes |
| 17:28.53 | Repo | Rokiyo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Raid level sound warning for Atramedes in Blackwing Descent |
| 17:30.00 | Pneumatus | why not just make it part of bigwigs, or is it something that would only be useful to a limited number of raiders in that encounter? |
| 17:30.23 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 17:30.25 | vhaarr | one person needs it |
| 17:30.49 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 17:32.27 | Repo | 10atramedes: 03Rabbit * r7 Atramedes.lua: Use a bigger font and append a % sign to each player. |
| 17:32.50 | Pneumatus | srsly though |
| 17:32.56 | Pneumatus | they should make levitate negate the noise |
| 17:32.58 | Pneumatus | :> |
| 17:34.54 | Fisker | slaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:35.16 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: and stealth |
| 17:35.40 | nevcairiel | stealth would be fine, for all i care, its not like you can do much in stealth, or go back in stealth arbitrarily |
| 17:35.45 | nevcairiel | but levitate would be OP :p |
| 17:36.09 | Gnarfoz | sure you can, it's called vanish :D |
| 17:36.22 | Gnarfoz | you goddamn druid, nevcairiel |
| 17:36.46 | nevcairiel | you're slowed in stealth, and you can't attack without leaving |
| 17:37.29 | Gnarfoz | that's what they want you to think |
| 17:37.34 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.36 | Fisker | and not break it |
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| 17:40.43 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03ethancentaurai * r396 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:40.44 | Repo | Fixed a bug causing guild professions to be mistaken as the character's own professions. |
| 17:42.04 | harl | what else could be the cause for immediately getting disconnected from the server (not just logged out) while being in a dungeon/instance? (except from that recent tooltip bug, and addons that query the server for unknown items obviously) |
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| 17:43.13 | dieck | hi there! Do parameters for events work different in 4.0? Before, I got arg1 to argX on a object:EVENT() function - now it's all nil |
| 17:43.36 | EthanCentaurai | you need to use arguements provided to the function |
| 17:43.49 | EthanCentaurai | object:EVENT(self, arg1, arg2) etc |
| 17:44.03 | dieck | ah, ok |
| 17:45.38 | vhaarr | actually that would be object:EVENT(arg1, arg2) :P |
| 17:46.13 | nevcairiel | actually, there is a "event" argument in there too |
| 17:46.20 | nevcairiel | while we're correcting each other |
| 17:46.46 | quiescens | fight, fight, fight |
| 17:46.48 | vhaarr | well, that depends really, doesn't it |
| 17:46.49 | quiescens | ~ |
| 17:46.54 | vhaarr | but with : notation self is already there |
| 17:47.17 | vhaarr | clearly what EthanCentaurai demonstrated was not the original event handler, but a function implementation |
| 17:47.25 | vhaarr | which may or may not have the event argument :P |
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| 17:49.24 | dieck | ok, it works good with (arg1, arg2, arg3) :) |
| 17:49.26 | dieck | thanks |
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| 17:56.46 | dieck | ok. it didn't work as expected. I actually needed to use (eventname, arg1, arg2, arg3) |
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| 17:57.32 | vhaarr | for Ace3, yes you do |
| 17:57.41 | nevcairiel | ha i win! |
| 17:58.29 | Fisker | i wish you did nevcairiel |
| 17:59.22 | Foxor | you won one Fisker, nevcairiel |
| 17:59.29 | Foxor | whatcha gonna do with it? |
| 17:59.54 | dieck | is there some "what changed in 4.0" site to read about this, except diff'ing code examples from working addons? :) |
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| 18:03.35 | harl | why's my Data\Cache\ directory 8 gb anyway.. |
| 18:04.24 | quiescens | because it can |
| 18:04.44 | harl | lol.. |
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| 18:05.04 | harl | good point i guess, but i've never had such a huge one before 4.x |
| 18:05.37 | nevcairiel | new launcher needs more cache |
| 18:06.17 | Fisker | you never had a data\cache directory before 4.x harl |
| 18:06.54 | Fisker | anyway as i've understoof it, it's basically just the bdiff'd mpq's applied to the main mpq's so you save on processing power |
| 18:06.55 | Mirrormn | and you *still don't* |
| 18:07.03 | Mirrormn | It's a g-g-g-ghooost! |
| 18:07.14 | Fisker | i disagree Mirrormn |
| 18:07.34 | nevcairiel | the "non-critical updates" actually produce data\cache |
| 18:07.37 | Mirrormn | you can't just disagree |
| 18:07.37 | nevcairiel | or clean it up |
| 18:07.39 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 18:07.46 | Mirrormn | you have to find the monster and then pull its mask off |
| 18:07.57 | Fisker | i can Mirrormn because you're wrong :( |
| 18:10.28 | Mirrormn | what a killjoy |
| 18:10.55 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: pff he never specified Ace3, I was assuming a generic event handler :P |
| 18:14.09 | [Ammo] | even a generic onEvent handler has event as first arg :) |
| 18:14.11 | nevcairiel | how much hit does a caster need again? |
| 18:14.25 | nevcairiel | 19% was it? |
| 18:14.36 | Mirrormn | 17% |
| 18:14.38 | [Ammo] | I thought it was 17 |
| 18:14.52 | nevcairiel | ah, then i still have alot of spirit to reforge! |
| 18:14.57 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: a handler, yes, but that's not what he demonstrated |
| 18:15.26 | Mirrormn | you can just mouse over your spell hit rating on your character sheet and it will tell you what chance you have to hit different level enemies |
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| 18:18.59 | Fisker | does the UI support to get values for all levels and not just the 3 closest? |
| 18:20.18 | Mirrormn | dunno |
| 18:20.45 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomeworks_bankitems/. GnomeWorks_BankItems. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:20.50 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atramedes/. Atramedes. Maat (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:20.54 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bt4-tinc/. Bartender4-ThereIsNoCost. Farmbuyer (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:20.56 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gridstatusdirectionarrows/. GridStatusDirectionArrows. slaren (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:21.00 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/adibags-pt3filter/. AdiBags_PT3Filter. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:21.04 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/what-just-procced/. What Just Procced. Farmbuyer (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:21.10 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Rokiyo * r739 IceElement.lua: - A more fool-proof method for late font registration. |
| 18:21.15 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sanguosha/. Sanguosha. Kurax (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:21.21 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gridsmartnames/. GridSmartNames. beej1066 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:21.42 | nevcairiel | dont we usually move 90% of the projects to curseforge |
| 18:22.29 | Repo | 10gridstatusdirectionarrows: 03slaren * r7 GridStatusDirectionArrows.lua: - Added option to filter by unit (target/mouseover/others) |
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| 18:22.51 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/power_bars/. Power Bars. Chamenas (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:23.01 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: most of those had a lot of other projects already :P |
| 18:24.15 | EthanCentaurai | @describe adibags-pt3filter |
| 18:24.17 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/adibags-pt3filter/. AdiBags_PT3Filter. LibPeriodicTable-3.1 item filters for AdiBags |
| 18:27.44 | Repo | 10gridstatusdirectionarrows: 03slaren 04v1.0-beta3 * r8 : Tagging as v1.0-beta3 |
| 18:35.00 | Adirelle | Hjalte, with latest beta ? |
| 18:37.35 | arkanes | somethings tainting my blizzard raid frames, taintlog blames it on ace3, any easy way to find out what it is? |
| 18:38.06 | haste | to the taintLog! |
| 18:38.16 | Axodious | mobile? |
| 18:38.38 | arkanes | haste: taintlog just says ace3, so I'm assuming its from AceHook |
| 18:38.57 | haste | up the verbosity |
| 18:39.06 | Pneumatus | yeh, /console taintlog 2 |
| 18:39.11 | Pneumatus | or more :) |
| 18:39.20 | haste | 2 is actually the highest |
| 18:39.29 | Pneumatus | so :< |
| 18:39.43 | Pneumatus | higher still does the same :) |
| 18:39.51 | Repo | 10mrunes: 03mangeg 07master * 1.23 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Still issues with LibBackdrop, so not using it for now. |
| 18:39.56 | Repo | 10mrunes: 03mangeg 041.23 * 693c999 /: [new tag] Tagging |
| 18:40.13 | haste | with Blizzard, you never know |
| 18:41.28 | Pneumatus | taintlog 2 probably isn't half as bad these days either now all the getglobal/setglobal calls are gone |
| 18:41.38 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 07master * 1.11 mNameplates.toc: [+2 commits] |
| 18:41.40 | Repo | c18a768: Still issues with LibBackdrop, so not using it for now. |
| 18:41.40 | Repo | a676de9: Using LibBackdrop again, problem seems to be solved. |
| 18:41.47 | Repo | 10mnameplates: 03mangeg 041.11 * a79e001 /: [new tag] Tagging |
| 18:42.16 | nevcairiel | the globals are still tained, doesnt matter how you taint em |
| 18:42.49 | Pneumatus | i mean, taintlog 2 warns on getglobal/setglobal so it used to fill the log with all kinds of irrelavent stuff |
| 18:43.35 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r316 RatingBuster-Locale-enUS.lua: - Fixed: Added "$value PVP Dmg Taken" locale string |
| 18:48.27 | arkanes | Pneumatus: its still pretty full |
| 18:49.28 | arkanes | also whatever was doing it has now stopped |
| 18:50.10 | nevcairiel | what do you mean with blizzard raid frames anyway? the frames themself? or your ability to throw smoke flares? |
| 18:50.30 | nevcairiel | because the second really cant be avoided |
| 18:50.41 | Pneumatus | yeh, pretty much everything breaks being able to set world makers |
| 18:50.48 | Pneumatus | and, in beta they look freakin awesome |
| 18:50.55 | Pneumatus | pillars of light with a suspended raid marker |
| 18:50.59 | Pneumatus | rather than like an eng flare |
| 18:51.15 | nevcairiel | but they wont fix the dropdown system |
| 18:52.00 | nevcairiel | and they most likely wont unprotect the markers |
| 18:52.08 | nevcairiel | which is silly |
| 18:52.13 | nevcairiel | they require a 3d click |
| 18:52.17 | nevcairiel | how could you possible abuse them |
| 18:53.07 | Pneumatus | nfi, they are no different to raid icons imo |
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| 18:53.21 | Pneumatus | the least they could do would be to allow bindings for them |
| 18:53.38 | nevcairiel | you need to click in the raid world, like a targeted aoe |
| 18:53.44 | nevcairiel | its not like addons can do that |
| 18:53.49 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 18:54.26 | nevcairiel | maybe their functions are whitelist rather then blacklist, and they just forgot to put it on |
| 18:54.26 | Pneumatus | they will just end up a never-used feature because no one can use them without disabling all addons |
| 18:54.29 | nevcairiel | did someone ask? :p |
| 18:55.24 | Pneumatus | i don't think there has been any feedback in the beta ui and macros forum on anything, let alone that specific issue |
| 18:55.36 | nevcairiel | there is actually |
| 18:55.40 | nevcairiel | the UI dev is just no blue poster |
| 18:55.48 | Pneumatus | oh |
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| 18:56.45 | arkanes | nevcairiel: I meant the unit frames |
| 18:56.55 | nevcairiel | no idea, havent seen them break |
| 18:56.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Sunshine`] by Ackis |
| 18:57.02 | arkanes | nevcairiel: wigged out mid combat because they couldn't create buttons |
| 18:57.26 | nevcairiel | who is Sunshine`? |
| 18:57.44 | Ackis | moderator |
| 18:57.55 | Sunshine` | yes. |
| 18:58.09 | nevcairiel | that doesnt really answer my question =) |
| 18:58.15 | Ackis | true |
| 18:58.20 | Rokiyo | lol |
| 18:58.28 | Shefki | Shadowed: Actually the RuneBar isn't paranted to the PlayerFrame. |
| 18:58.29 | Ackis | I know he/she does stuff on mmo-champion |
| 18:58.35 | Shefki | Shadowed: All the new ones are, the RuneBar wasn't. |
| 18:58.39 | Shadowed | ah hm |
| 18:58.41 | Shadowed | I guess thats why |
| 18:58.44 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon * r11 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 18:58.45 | Repo | Waitlist persists indefinitely until the user leaves the raid - saves from DC's, reloadui, logging, reboot, etc. |
| 18:58.46 | Repo | Added checking for raid in progress to allow waitlist actions. |
| 18:58.47 | Repo | Removed whispering when player is manually added to waitlist. |
| 18:58.48 | Repo | Added custom offline timeout period. |
| 18:58.50 | nevcairiel | "wasnt"? its now? |
| 18:58.53 | Shefki | So you can easily pull it out and move it around and Show it separately. |
| 18:59.01 | Sunshine` | she, yes -- i do admin stuff there; Kaelten's trying to drag me over here |
| 18:59.03 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon 040.3-a * r12 : Tagging as 0.3-a |
| 18:59.12 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: any reports of Deathbringer Saurfang module not activating? |
| 18:59.17 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Nahh it's still just UIParent. |
| 18:59.18 | Ackis | Sunshine`: ironically he's trying to drag me there to do stuff too |
| 18:59.28 | Sunshine` | :D |
| 18:59.44 | Pneumatus | not enough keyloggings there, Ackis? |
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| 18:59.58 | Pneumatus | or drycoding |
| 19:00.02 | Ackis | I told him I'd do it if I could ban Fisker whenever I wanted |
| 19:00.05 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: yeah but I can't reproduce |
| 19:00.06 | Sunshine` | lol |
| 19:00.11 | Ackis | he frowned and shook his head |
| 19:00.19 | nevcairiel | in any case, the rune bar doesnt show when i turn off "hide rune bar" but turn on "hide player frame" |
| 19:00.19 | nevcairiel | so uh, no idea :) |
| 19:00.26 | nevcairiel | but i can! |
| 19:01.31 | Shefki | nevcairiel: You on a DK? |
| 19:01.36 | nevcairiel | not right now |
| 19:01.41 | nevcairiel | but i was when i tested |
| 19:01.47 | nevcairiel | would be rather pointless otherwise, wouldnt it |
| 19:02.17 | nevcairiel | maybe the showing needs to be initiated from some event on player frame, which i unregistered? |
| 19:02.34 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Doubt it, it's pretty straightforward. |
| 19:03.11 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Only problem with 4.0.x that I had was I had to stop clearing all the events on the PlayerFrame to avoid tainting the BuffFrame. |
| 19:03.32 | Shefki | So I had to intercept the vehicle crap so it wouldn't reshow the RuneFrame when you got out of a vehicle. |
| 19:03.47 | nevcairiel | unregistering events taints? |
| 19:04.06 | Shefki | nevcairiel: No but managing the PlayerFrame.unit myself did. |
| 19:04.12 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 19:04.21 | nevcairiel | yeah, we discovered that soem time ago |
| 19:04.29 | nevcairiel | tainted before 4.x as well, you know |
| 19:04.36 | nevcairiel | just re-register some of the odd events |
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| 19:06.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:07.22 | Stanzilla | Shefki: how's your secrect branch looking these days? :p |
| 19:07.34 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: She's good people |
| 19:07.58 | nevcairiel | is that proper english? |
| 19:08.20 | Kaelten | Iwish colloquy was this good on my computer. But I seem to have flood issues on reconnect |
| 19:08.25 | Kaelten | Dunno. |
| 19:09.00 | nevcairiel | In any case, i was just a bit confused seeing a new face that i have never seen around our wowace community before |
| 19:09.10 | nevcairiel | But anyway, welcome then, Sunshine` |
| 19:09.21 | Sunshine` | thanks! |
| 19:09.54 | nevcairiel | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/readers-choice-awards-2010 |
| 19:10.03 | nevcairiel | mobile OS top 5, iOS isnt even mentionied |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | i like |
| 19:10.06 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 19:10.34 | Kalroth | She's our sunshine! |
| 19:10.44 | Sunshine` | ! |
| 19:10.52 | Stanzilla | Firefox as the best webbrowser :( |
| 19:10.54 | Pneumatus | how on earth did gnome and kde draw for best desktop environment |
| 19:11.07 | nevcairiel | we have a girl in our LAN team with the nick sunrise, hehe |
| 19:11.14 | Stanzilla | Best IRC Client |
| 19:11.14 | Stanzilla | Pidgin |
| 19:11.15 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: what else is there to compete? |
| 19:11.19 | Stanzilla | what. |
| 19:11.22 | Pneumatus | and safari didn't make it to the top 5 either |
| 19:11.34 | nevcairiel | its a linux page |
| 19:11.38 | nevcairiel | linux users dont use safari |
| 19:11.41 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: more the fact that neither was chosen as dedicated winner |
| 19:12.29 | pb_ee1 | syl |
| 19:12.32 | pb_ee1 | woops |
| 19:12.36 | pb_ee1 | nn everybody ;) |
| 19:12.43 | Stanzilla | Best Revision Control System Third Place: cvs |
| 19:12.45 | Stanzilla | bwhaah |
| 19:12.49 | Pneumatus | 2nd best online collaboration tool is "Wikis" |
| 19:12.51 | Kaelten | WTF |
| 19:12.51 | Pneumatus | orly |
| 19:13.09 | Stanzilla | hg is #5 |
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| 19:13.39 | Pneumatus | i really need to look into nagios more, also |
| 19:13.43 | pb_ee1 | lol @ results Pneumatus |
| 19:14.23 | pb_ee1 | Only nerds and open source voted, right? ;p |
| 19:14.29 | pb_ee1 | +lovers * |
| 19:14.55 | nevcairiel | its linux journal, linux users voted |
| 19:14.59 | pb_ee1 | Best IRC Client Pidgin, me thinks its the best joke |
| 19:15.09 | Stanzilla | ah btw Kaelten I bet Ackis never told you about the ideas I had for curse, right? :E |
| 19:15.10 | Kalroth | IM, not irc |
| 19:15.18 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: irc too, read on |
| 19:15.26 | Kaelten | Probably or not |
| 19:15.42 | *** join/#wowace bien| (~bien@p4FF461E9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:16.06 | Kalroth | Oh, I guess the majority of people uses IM and sine Pidgin also comes with IRC .. |
| 19:16.22 | Kaelten | Sup? |
| 19:16.24 | Megalon | also nice that python is both the best scripting language and the best programming language |
| 19:16.29 | pb_ee1 | What do people have with Pidgin, wtf |
| 19:16.38 | nevcairiel | i like it as a IM client |
| 19:16.40 | nevcairiel | but irc, seriously |
| 19:16.45 | lozon | XChat ftw |
| 19:16.50 | pb_ee1 | Not surprised with that, Megalon |
| 19:16.58 | Kalroth | Apparently Eclipse is a good IDE, who knew |
| 19:17.06 | pb_ee1 | Don't really like XChat, but that's only my preference |
| 19:17.14 | pb_ee1 | Hehe Kalroth, it is indeed ;p |
| 19:17.15 | nevcairiel | comparing to the IDEs in the top 5 there, it is the winner |
| 19:17.28 | pb_ee1 | But not cool for small projects, to big |
| 19:17.40 | lozon | I usually use MiRC, but I had to develop in linux over the summer, so XChat it was...its pretty simple and gets the job done |
| 19:17.44 | dieck | irssi :) |
| 19:17.44 | Kalroth | Sure, but thats like comparing which kind of wound infection you'd prefer |
| 19:17.49 | Pneumatus | i use eclipse for any size of java project |
| 19:17.50 | Kalroth | Hardly much of a top 5 |
| 19:18.05 | nevcairiel | Yeah, i use eclipse for java as well, not anything else, though |
| 19:18.16 | nevcairiel | Its also our company stadard dev environment, so meh |
| 19:18.33 | lozon | i use eclipse for my php development, and java if im unlucky and have to code it |
| 19:18.37 | Repo | 10links: 03Starinnia * r124 Links.lua: |
| 19:18.38 | Repo | fix a missing 's' on line 191 that caused the OnEnable function to never fire |
| 19:18.44 | pb_ee1 | Java, for the most part |
| 19:18.49 | Pneumatus | ive tried using it for PHP projects, but generally end up preferring a straight text editor |
| 19:18.51 | nevcairiel | <- java web developer |
| 19:18.52 | pb_ee1 | Some Lua as well, sometimes |
| 19:19.00 | pb_ee1 | same here |
| 19:19.07 | Pneumatus | <- java dev |
| 19:19.19 | lozon | <- c++ dev =D |
| 19:19.21 | nevcairiel | people still use java for anything non web? |
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| 19:19.49 | Pneumatus | our projects are java web services, not frontend stuff |
| 19:19.55 | pb_ee1 | well everybody could also say <- lua & xml :D |
| 19:19.56 | nevcairiel | guess that counts |
| 19:20.12 | farmbuyer | Sadly, it's still the fad language in the defense contracting industry. |
| 19:20.19 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon * r13 Waitlist.lua: |
| 19:20.19 | Repo | Fixed the spamming of "removing" a player from waitlist, when they weren't on it. |
| 19:20.23 | Shirik | what is, farmbuyer? |
| 19:20.26 | pb_ee1 | I really need to give a look at python |
| 19:20.28 | farmbuyer | Java |
| 19:20.31 | nevcairiel | pb_ee1: i was going by day job there |
| 19:20.32 | pb_ee1 | Maybe one day i'll have the time :D |
| 19:20.36 | Shirik | No it's not |
| 19:20.41 | Shirik | I have no idea where you got that idea |
| 19:20.41 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon 040.3-a2 * r14 : Tagging as 0.3-a2 |
| 19:21.17 | farmbuyer | that's the field I'm stuck working in; they want everything in java. /shrug |
| 19:21.17 | pb_ee1 | nevcairiel: huh? where? didn't catch you on that one |
| 19:21.30 | nevcairiel | regarding the lua&xml |
| 19:21.37 | farmbuyer | I didn't say I liked it. :-) |
| 19:21.41 | Shirik | I don't know what kind of defense contract work you do, but I know for sure DO-178B will never allow certification of Java code |
| 19:21.48 | pb_ee1 | ha, yay, obviously |
| 19:22.22 | pb_ee1 | <- Java by day, lua & xml by night, and I sometimes sleep. |
| 19:22.32 | Shirik | pb_ee1: I'm sorry |
| 19:22.38 | nevcairiel | Shirik: thats aviation, not defense, from what wikipedia tells me |
| 19:22.42 | Shirik | It is |
| 19:23.10 | Shirik | But most defense contract work is in aviation these days; I can't speak to the other fields (and that's why I prefixed what I said as such) |
| 19:23.37 | nevcairiel | what prefix? |
| 19:23.39 | nevcairiel | did i miss that? |
| 19:23.39 | pb_ee1 | When we'll see Java in aviation code, it'll be end of days :D |
| 19:23.48 | Shirik | (15:21:03) (+Shirik) I don't know what kind of defense contract work you do |
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| 19:24.44 | pb_ee1 | I'm off, have a good: afternoon for those in US, night for those in Europe, and end of night for me :D |
| 19:25.03 | Shirik | pb_ee1 lives in the pacific ocean? |
| 19:25.08 | pb_ee1 | Meh |
| 19:25.19 | pb_ee1 | No, India at the moment, but I'm not Indian, just working there |
| 19:25.48 | nevcairiel | and i thought we get the indians to do cheap work for us, not the other way around |
| 19:25.48 | Rokiyo | wow whoever wrote up the reader's choice awards needs to learn the difference between "best" and "most popular" |
| 19:25.49 | pb_ee1 | It's 00:55 atm |
| 19:26.04 | nevcairiel | Rokiyo: its readers choice, of course thats implied |
| 19:26.10 | pb_ee1 | Well I'm making other Indians work that's the point :D |
| 19:26.19 | Shirik | heh |
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| 19:26.49 | Rokiyo | it just feels so... misleading :s |
| 19:26.52 | nevcairiel | man, i hate having a tank that is skinner |
| 19:26.52 | pb_ee1 | waves. |
| 19:27.11 | nevcairiel | always skinning mobs instead of pulling |
| 19:27.17 | Shirik | hah |
| 19:27.34 | Kalroth | he isnt a tank if he isnt pulling |
| 19:27.35 | Aeyan | Well, to be fair, with the Linux community the title of 'best' at anything is pretty subjective, hehe |
| 19:27.59 | Rokiyo | all the more reason to caveat more! |
| 19:28.07 | Aeyan | Someone will always think this or that programmer is a blithering idiot for something |
| 19:28.08 | Kalroth | Are there even any commercial software on the list? |
| 19:28.19 | nevcairiel | there is even a category for it |
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| 19:28.31 | nevcairiel | but commercial isnt big on linux in any case |
| 19:28.39 | Sliker | noob question woo: if I were to do `a = thisTable` then `a[1] = "blah"` would thisTable[1] then also be set to "blah" ? |
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| 19:28.42 | Lulia | Woah, nev is a mod here? |
| 19:28.43 | Rokiyo | the mobile OS category |
| 19:28.56 | nevcairiel | Sliker: yes |
| 19:29.01 | Kalroth | nevcairiel has always been a meanie, now it's just official! |
| 19:29.01 | Sliker | good good, thanks. |
| 19:29.50 | Lulia | So, erm, just read the page on connecting to repositories on WoWAce, but clearly I'm misunderstanding something because I can't seem to connect through PuTTy |
| 19:30.29 | nevcairiel | If you want to use svn, i would recommend starting off with user/pass auth, you can worry about securing it later |
| 19:30.45 | Aeyan | Nev's a busy guy |
| 19:30.48 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen p3lim |
| 19:30.58 | purl | p3lim <~p3lim@200.41.202.84.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 37m 25s ago, saying: 'got some issues with jQuery's .load and .append, anyone able to help?'. |
| 19:30.58 | Aeyan | I found him completely randomly elsewhere in the net writing media splitters, hehe |
| 19:30.58 | Shirik | if you want to use svn, I suggest you shoot yourself |
| 19:31.10 | Lulia | >.> |
| 19:31.29 | nevcairiel | Shirik: look at the article from earlier, cvs is #3! |
| 19:31.47 | Shirik | what |
| 19:32.00 | farmbuyer | Shirik: sorry, got distracted by respawns. mostly we do ground-based stuff. I suspect bill joy paid off a general somewhere. It's really annoying. |
| 19:32.26 | nevcairiel | it was like, git, svn, cvs, ?, hg |
| 19:32.29 | nevcairiel | forgot what 4 was |
| 19:32.36 | Shirik | perforce!!! |
| 19:32.39 | Shirik | probably not |
| 19:32.41 | Shirik | but perforce is awesome |
| 19:33.21 | nevcairiel | bazaar |
| 19:33.28 | Shirik | TFS maybe? |
| 19:33.28 | Shirik | ah |
| 19:33.58 | Shirik | I really don't get why we don't use TFS |
| 19:34.05 | Shirik | We have Visual Studio Team edition and don't use TFS |
| 19:34.19 | arkanes | because TFS is horrible :P |
| 19:34.24 | nevcairiel | whats TFS? a new VSS? :P |
| 19:34.57 | Kalroth | TFS is almost worse than VSS |
| 19:35.01 | nevcairiel | in any case, this was an article in a linux magazin |
| 19:35.02 | Pneumatus | its a whole collaboration tool though isnt it? |
| 19:35.26 | Pneumatus | roadmaps, bugs etc |
| 19:35.36 | Pneumatus | (in addition to source control) |
| 19:41.44 | Lulia | Alright, so I made an svn password, still no idea how to connect... |
| 19:47.34 | Shefki | Shirik: p4 is a pile of crap that just works better than other commercial stuff. |
| 19:48.04 | Shirik | p4 is awesome tyvm |
| 19:48.40 | nevcairiel | <comment about shiriks judgement> |
| 19:48.54 | Shirik | I also love C++ and Korean MMOs |
| 19:49.42 | Lulia | >.> |
| 19:50.06 | Shirik | Oh I forgot, I hate git |
| 19:50.09 | Shirik | and python |
| 19:50.20 | Shirik | That basically sums up my judgement all at once |
| 19:50.26 | Iblise | anyword on when if bar addons will be fixed for beta? or does blizzard have to do another build? |
| 19:50.28 | Lulia | So, umm |
| 19:51.15 | Shefki | Shirik: p4 blows ass because I have to hand hold it through any integration. |
| 19:51.42 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:51.46 | Shirik | I don't have to do integration! |
| 19:51.49 | Shirik | well |
| 19:51.56 | Repo | 10blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 * r93 BloodShieldTracker.lua: Fixing issue with est heal bar showing up for non-DKs |
| 19:51.56 | Shirik | occasionally I do but it's usually extremely small-scale |
| 19:51.59 | Pneumatus | Iblise: confirmed fixed internally, just waiting on a new build |
| 19:52.01 | Shefki | Shirik: Let me guess, all integration is done by CMs. |
| 19:52.12 | Shirik | I don't know who does it |
| 19:52.16 | Shirik | all I know is it magically happens >.> |
| 19:52.17 | Lulia | I have to use an ssh client to connect to the repository, yes? |
| 19:52.22 | Shirik | I never bothered to look |
| 19:52.36 | Shefki | Shirik: My other problem with p4. |
| 19:52.49 | Shefki | The admin manual reads like reasons you shouldn't be using this. |
| 19:52.55 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:53.08 | Shefki | Telling you how your repo can get corrupted by doing things that shouldn't be able to corrupt it. |
| 19:53.39 | Shefki | Anyway I use it at work. |
| 19:53.55 | Shefki | The only argument I really have in favor of it is it handles really really large repos fairly well. |
| 19:54.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:54.58 | Shirik | it still takes me an hour to do an initial sync though ._. |
| 19:55.07 | Shirik | fortunately that happens rarely |
| 19:55.27 | Shefki | Yeah nobody said it was a speed demon. |
| 19:55.30 | Lulia | <.< |
| 19:55.31 | Lulia | >.> |
| 19:55.40 | Repo | 10blood-shield-tracker: 03talryn1 040.1 * r94 : Tagging as 0.1 |
| 19:55.56 | Shefki | Ohh another retarded thing. |
| 19:56.03 | Shefki | So I was new... Hadn't used p4 much. |
| 19:56.12 | Shefki | Needed to find a file that was somewhere in the repo but I had no idea. |
| 19:56.18 | Shefki | So I searched the whole tree for the file. |
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| 19:56.30 | Shefki | CM comes to my desk, "Why are you searching the whole repo." |
| 19:56.35 | Shefki | "Umm to find something." |
| 19:56.41 | Shefki | "Don't do that it loks the whole repo." |
| 19:56.45 | Shefki | ... |
| 19:56.46 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 19:56.48 | Pneumatus | oh lawd |
| 19:57.37 | Shefki | I'd like to meet the Engineer that made that decision and hear the explanation for that one. |
| 19:58.18 | nevcairiel | pure read operations that lock are fun |
| 19:58.40 | farmbuyer | that's like recursive grep halting all disc ops, why would they do that? |
| 19:59.04 | Fisker | anyone recall why they usually skip patches like 4.0.2? |
| 19:59.42 | Shirik | lmao Shefki |
| 19:59.43 | nevcairiel | they like to leave one free in case they need to do some real patching to fix some evil ness |
| 20:00.11 | nevcairiel | so any pre-announced patch has some room in between |
| 20:00.39 | nevcairiel | its kind of a standard now, anyway |
| 20:01.52 | Fisker | just figuring what the point is anyway |
| 20:02.03 | Fisker | 4.0.1 just got 4.0.1a |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker | and not 4.0.2 |
| 20:02.11 | Fisker | seems like they forgot about it :P |
| 20:02.20 | nevcairiel | was just a hotfix patch, those get the a |
| 20:02.44 | nevcairiel | didnt 3.0 have a 3.0.2 |
| 20:02.58 | Fisker | Well i thought it was for that reason |
| 20:03.14 | Fisker | as far as i recall the first ever .2 was a "hotfix" patch of sorts for one of the asian versions |
| 20:03.32 | Mirrormn | speaking of which, why did they start with 4.0.1 instead of 4.0 |
| 20:04.04 | nichdu | cause it sounds better |
| 20:04.08 | Fisker | nah |
| 20:04.15 | Fisker | it has something to do with the deployment of the patch |
| 20:04.37 | Fisker | like 4.0.0 is actually a pretty early build, but they have to deploy/preload that before they're completely done with 4.0.1 |
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| 20:04.55 | Fisker | so they finish 4.0.1 and you start at 4.0.0 then immediately patch up to 4.0.1 |
| 20:05.02 | Fisker | i think |
| 20:05.27 | nevcairiel | Could also ask why releae was 1.1.2 and not 1.0.0 |
| 20:05.39 | nevcairiel | its all in their internal development cycle |
| 20:06.06 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: poke |
| 20:06.11 | nevcairiel | (actually, 1.1.2 was EU release, US got 1.1.0) |
| 20:06.13 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 20:06.20 | Fisker | was just about to check up |
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| 20:07.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: eu release was 1.2.1 |
| 20:07.09 | nevcairiel | no, it wasnt |
| 20:07.12 | Gnarfoz | sure it was |
| 20:07.17 | nevcairiel | it was 1.1.2 |
| 20:07.34 | Gnarfoz | first patch after release was those "fixed roll windows in german/french clients" |
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| 20:08.13 | nevcairiel | yes, that was 1.2.1 |
| 20:08.19 | Fisker | i'm pretty sure i recall it being 1.1.1 |
| 20:08.24 | Fisker | but i probably had the US client |
| 20:08.30 | Fisker | (obviously it was patched up to 1.2.x etc) |
| 20:08.34 | nevcairiel | but the disc shipped 1.1.2 to you |
| 20:08.37 | Gnarfoz | so we got 1.2.1 directly from 1.1.2? that sounds wrong |
| 20:08.45 | Gnarfoz | also, wtf |
| 20:08.51 | Gnarfoz | 4.0 deleted my Patch.txt |
| 20:08.56 | Gnarfoz | I hate them! |
| 20:09.08 | Gnarfoz | that had all patch notes since the beginning :( |
| 20:09.12 | Fisker | it's in the locale folder |
| 20:09.14 | nebula169 | 4.0 deleted my logs dir ;[ |
| 20:10.28 | lozon | same |
| 20:10.37 | lozon | very disappointed, had so many combat logs |
| 20:10.52 | nebula169 | yea, i rotated them in that dir, lol |
| 20:11.13 | lozon | hrm, i tagged my addon changes at 0.3-a2 and it created, but its not shown on curse or wowace, any idea? |
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| 20:12.55 | nebula169 | Unsuccessful attempt at uploading /media/repositories/packaging/zip/wow/EPGPWaitlist-0.3-a2-nolib.zip, /media/repositories/packaging/zip/wow/EPGPWaitlist-0.3-a2.zip. 502 Bad Gateway: |
| 20:13.16 | nevcairiel | well, then you lose |
| 20:13.21 | Knaledge | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches/1.x |
| 20:13.37 | Knaledge | Fun to reminisce about how things were back in the day. I read those time to time |
| 20:13.48 | Knaledge | rolls all the way back to alpha and point releases |
| 20:13.52 | Knaledge | up to current |
| 20:13.59 | lozon | Hrm, ty, ill have to try and delete the tag |
| 20:14.17 | Iblise | uhhh what heal should a pally be using on beta? |
| 20:14.22 | Iblise | divine light? |
| 20:14.23 | farmbuyer | durcyn: ping? |
| 20:14.44 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon 040.3-a2 * r15 : Removing |
| 20:14.59 | Knaledge | quick question: I have transitioned from AuctionMaster to Auctionator and I miss the functionality of AuctionMaster that accounted for "sniping" items from the AH that were listed with a Buyout lower than the vendor sell price. |
| 20:15.02 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03oscarucb * r246 BuffWindow.lua: fix ticket 22 SetHeight error |
| 20:15.10 | Knaledge | Does anyone have any recommendation for a replacement addon to fulfill that functionality? |
| 20:15.15 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon * r16 EPGPWaitlist.toc: Fixed TOC |
| 20:15.33 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist: 03nicklozon 040.3-a2 * r17 : Tagging as 0.3-a2 |
| 20:16.01 | lozon | What do you mean by "sniping" |
| 20:16.06 | lozon | buying it FOR you? |
| 20:16.14 | lozon | or, being prompted with the message to buy it. |
| 20:17.18 | Fisker | Gnarfoz just killed himself |
| 20:17.26 | Gnarfoz | no, I'm doing sindragosa hc |
| 20:17.40 | Gnarfoz | which amounts to the same, basically |
| 20:18.03 | Megalon | the same is true for talking with Fisker |
| 20:18.44 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2935 / (2 files in 2 directories): - update for Atlas integration |
| 20:19.09 | Fisker | i'm doing LK HC Gnarfoz |
| 20:19.13 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
| 20:20.46 | Knaledge | @lozon: Yeah just being prompted to buy it or even as simple as presenting a list of items that meet that criteria |
| 20:20.53 | Knaledge | (without having to specify any items) |
| 20:21.01 | Knaledge | Again, as simply as I said it - like AuctionMaster |
| 20:21.27 | lozon | Well, I use Auctioneer and its updated. |
| 20:21.34 | lozon | But, |
| 20:22.02 | lozon | nvm, no but, it will do the vendor buyout no problem |
| 20:22.12 | lozon | auctioneeraddon.com |
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| 20:34.56 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 074.0.1 * r223 / (13 files in 3 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 20:34.57 | Repo | - Completed implementation of item search engine. Fixed bug that prevented the item database from being persisted correctly. |
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| 20:40.59 | Repo | 10libxml-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r23 / (3 files in 1 directory): Bumping TOC to 4.0.x |
| 20:41.00 | Repo | Dependency on LibStub is now optional |
| 20:41.01 | Repo | Changed pkgmeta |
| 20:44.00 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-7-g5f68f35 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 20:44.02 | Repo | 5f68f35: HolyPower: Limit watching PLAYER_LEVEL_UP to when needed. |
| 20:44.03 | Repo | 2b981ab: SoulShards module shouldn't show until level 10 on Warlocks. |
| 20:44.04 | Repo | 4b8b05a: SoulShards should clear on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. |
| 20:44.05 | Repo | c112458: SoulShards module should be using module:Update(frame) not module:UpdateFrame(frame) |
| 20:47.45 | Repo | 10libxml-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r24 LibXML-1.0.lua: Changed some error messages. |
| 20:53.57 | Repo | 10libhtml (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r0 / (4 files in 1 directory): File prototypes - nothing to see here. |
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| 20:57.43 | nichdu | @project libxml-1-0 |
| 20:57.45 | Repo | nichdu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libxml-1-0/. LibXML-1.0. Game: WoW. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 minutes ago |
| 20:59.04 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r25 / (2 files in 2 directories): * fixed a bug with pet health percentage text |
| 20:59.06 | Repo | * fixed a bug with display of 3d model reappearing when world was hidden and displayed again (eg. when showing the map) |
| 20:59.07 | Repo | * fixed centering of target level text |
| 21:01.54 | Gnarfoz | so, nevcairiel |
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| 21:03.46 | Gnarfoz | 1.2.0 came out before EU release |
| 21:06.29 | nevcairiel | in the US it did |
| 21:07.00 | nevcairiel | stuff wasnt really in sync back then |
| 21:07.37 | Gnarfoz | :? |
| 21:07.40 | Gnarfoz | you're not making sense |
| 21:07.51 | Gnarfoz | EU hadn't launched then, what was there to be in sync with |
| 21:08.09 | nevcairiel | the point is that it was still 1.1.2 that you got on release day |
| 21:08.36 | Gnarfoz | but you couldn't play with that |
| 21:08.42 | nevcairiel | yes you could |
| 21:08.46 | Gnarfoz | no, you couldn't |
| 21:08.47 | nevcairiel | 1.2 was released later |
| 21:08.50 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 21:08.54 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:08.55 | Gnarfoz | you had to patch on release |
| 21:09.10 | Gnarfoz | well then we've experienced different realities, I guess! :D |
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| 21:10.26 | Fisker | i'm with nevcairiel actually Gnarfoz |
| 21:10.40 | Fisker | didn't patch up to 1.2 right away i think |
| 21:10.41 | Gnarfoz | you're gay? |
| 21:10.41 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:11.13 | Humbedooh | aren't we all a bit? |
| 21:12.18 | Torhal | vhaarr: The guy re-submitted the project, so if it still has oRA3 code in it I'll kick his ass. |
| 21:12.34 | Humbedooh | My eyes must be going bad |
| 21:12.41 | Humbedooh | I see a @ next to Torhal's name |
| 21:14.35 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Try alcohol and a Q-Tip. |
| 21:14.37 | Torhal | :D |
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| 21:14.44 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 21:26.04 | Megalon | doesn't help torhal |
| 21:26.13 | Megalon | I think you need to give me op to fix this |
| 21:26.31 | Torhal | Megalon: I'm pretty sure sand paper will do the job. |
| 21:27.28 | Megalon | sand paper? i'll black'n'decker the shit out of it |
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| 21:30.48 | Torhal | BWAH |
| 21:32.28 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 4.0.0.3 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] add missing AceTimer dep |
| 21:32.33 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 044.0.0.3 * cf2c632 /: [new tag] 4.0.0.3 |
| 21:34.10 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-9-g1a4966f / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 21:34.11 | Repo | 1a4966f: Forgot to pull in AceEvent mixins for QuestIcon module. |
| 21:34.12 | Repo | 0d93c21: Ticket #833: Add support for QuestIcon added with 4.0.x. |
| 21:42.08 | Slayman | hey dudes, does one have to clear all bosses in MC to have MajorHomo Sexecutus spawn? |
| 21:43.26 | Humbedooh | hm, well not in the old days |
| 21:43.35 | Humbedooh | just had to douse all them runes |
| 21:43.50 | Slayman | no more runes exists, hence my question |
| 21:46.33 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix * r121 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:46.34 | Repo | FishingAce: Update fishing lib to handle link patterns more simply. |
| 21:46.53 | farmbuyer | I think you have to kill the same bosses that used to be standing next to the runes. |
| 21:47.27 | Slayman | bonkers, that wastes time on farming the stupid leaf |
| 21:47.39 | Torhal | farmbuyer: WHen the hell did you get in here? :D |
| 21:48.14 | farmbuyer | finally copied over crap from my old hard drive, including xchat |
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| 21:55.47 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.7.3 * r740 : Tagging as 1.7.3 |
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| 21:57.45 | Torhal | farmbuyer: Damn. You're lazier than I am. |
| 22:03.25 | vhaarr | Torhal: actually I forgot to tell you but I've given him permission to copy now if he so pleases, and CC'ed [Ammo] on the message but he has yet to reply |
| 22:03.47 | vhaarr | formally, he'll need both our consent, but informally it'd be fine for now if he used some of our code |
| 22:04.12 | vhaarr | also provided he gives proper credit, obviously |
| 22:04.18 | Humbedooh | will he provide pies? |
| 22:04.21 | Torhal | vhaarr: Ah, so he asked after I nuked his project? :) |
| 22:04.45 | vhaarr | no |
| 22:04.48 | Humbedooh | doesn't trust Torhal with this much power. |
| 22:04.59 | vhaarr | first he committed a changed version with less traces of our code, then I wrote him a privmsg |
| 22:05.09 | Torhal | Humbedooh: The only power I gained was the ability to kickban you :P |
| 22:05.23 | Torhal | vhaarr: Ah |
| 22:05.27 | Humbedooh | yes, it makes it harder for me to /blame you ;\ |
| 22:05.31 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:05.34 | Humbedooh | but by God, I'll try! |
| 22:09.37 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix * r122 LibFishing-1.0.lua: |
| 22:09.39 | Repo | FishingAce: clean up fish library tooltip handling, pole detection should be more stable |
| 22:10.05 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-10-g4a5d37c / (9 files in 6 directories): [+1 commit] Allow manual input of values outside of slider ranges where reasonable. |
| 22:10.20 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix 04Release 0.5.5c * r123 : Tagging as Release 0.5.5c |
| 22:10.21 | Repo | Clean up fishing library for more consistent pole detection. |
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| 22:17.54 | segorawow | Hello. Is someone here who has a little bit of experience with the lib-st (scrollingtable)? |
| 22:18.22 | ShadniX | a bit, yes |
| 22:18.40 | segorawow | ah, think you are the one who helped me yesterday |
| 22:18.52 | segorawow | my question is about the own eventhandler again |
| 22:19.27 | Repo | 10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r17 LibDBIcon-1.0/LibDBIcon-1.0.lua: |
| 22:19.28 | Repo | Make sure that we create missing icons when the library is re-enabled. |
| 22:19.39 | segorawow | i have written some code which handles the events onClick, OnEnter and OnLeave |
| 22:19.47 | segorawow | the code is working as expected |
| 22:20.02 | segorawow | but if i click on the column-headlines they are not sorting |
| 22:20.39 | segorawow | i tried returning false and returning nothing, just like the author has written in his example |
| 22:20.45 | segorawow | but it is still not working |
| 22:20.55 | segorawow | any ideas about that? |
| 22:22.59 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-11-gb43ba6d Modules/QuestIcon/PitBull4_QuestIcon.toc: [+1 commit] Don't load QuestIcon module on 3.x |
| 22:25.00 | ShadniX | segorawow: sorry, in this case not really. I've always disabled the default handler in the few cases, where I've defined a custom OnClick-Handler |
| 22:26.12 | segorawow | if i take a look at the code-documentation within the core.lua of the lib i see the method SortData |
| 22:26.36 | segorawow | the descriptions says that it will resort the data using the rules specified in the table column info |
| 22:26.40 | segorawow | but it doesn't work |
| 22:26.41 | segorawow | :/ |
| 22:27.39 | farmbuyer | segorawow: I went through the same thing, ended up adding a ton of print() calls to the library so I could figure out where his control flow was headed. Resulted in a couple of bug reports, and was very educational. |
| 22:27.55 | farmbuyer | Something like that might help, if you don't mind hacking the print's into place. |
| 22:30.46 | Humbedooh | Or you could use LibSpreadsheet ;> |
| 22:31.41 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Rabbit * r297 Mendeleev.lua: Fix interface options. |
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| 22:33.15 | Gnarfoz | ~seen mikk |
| 22:33.17 | purl | mikk <~Mikk@WoWUIDev/mikk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 5m 40s ago, saying: '(and the table really doesn't have anything in it... it's just an empty table with a metatable set on it)'. |
| 22:33.33 | Humbedooh | his final words ;o |
| 22:33.47 | Humbedooh | then the table abducted him :\ |
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| 22:40.59 | Fisker | i have hate Gnarfoz |
| 22:42.11 | segorawow | farmbuyer: if have written an pm to the author, but he said that he is not playing wow anymore .. so he has no idea why it is not working and told me the same thing like he has written in his example code. :| |
| 22:44.10 | farmbuyer | the only addon I'm using lib-st in doesn't do anything special with the column headers; I'm specifically testing for clicks there and returning the "suppress" result, so that the users can't do anything silly. |
| 22:45.05 | farmbuyer | But resorting was working when I *don't* do that, so the author's code should still be functional. |
| 22:46.27 | segorawow | what do you mean with the "supress" result? |
| 22:46.30 | segorawow | +p |
| 22:50.28 | kagaro | anyone have a good way to test for â1.#IND Ive tried x ~= x btu doesnt always work |
| 22:50.33 | farmbuyer | sorry, sloppy wording. I mean returning true to suppress further default actions, versus returning false to continue |
| 22:51.35 | Humbedooh | kagaro: tonumber(tostringall(myNumber)) ? |
| 22:51.50 | Humbedooh | should return nil on #IND and #INF |
| 22:52.52 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber(tostringall(2)) |
| 22:52.52 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'tostringall' (a nil value) |
| 22:52.56 | Humbedooh | pfft |
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| 22:53.19 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber(tostring(2)) |
| 22:53.19 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 2 |
| 22:53.22 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber(tostring(1/0)) |
| 22:53.22 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: inf |
| 22:53.37 | Humbedooh | hmm doesn't work like that in WoW :\ |
| 22:53.57 | kagaro | ya i tested some code with lua 5.1 and it works diff in game |
| 22:54.20 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r103 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:54.21 | Repo | Fix for Netherwing Ledge: just because you're not on any of your mounts doesn't mean you're not mounted. |
| 22:54.44 | segorawow | Humbedooh: so you are saying that sorting was working if you returned false? |
| 22:55.04 | Mirrormn | lua> tonumber(1/0) |
| 22:55.04 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: inf |
| 22:55.08 | Humbedooh | who what where? ;o |
| 22:55.11 | Mirrormn | lua> 1/0 |
| 22:55.11 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: inf |
| 22:55.21 | Mirrormn | lua> tostring(1/0) |
| 22:55.21 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: inf |
| 22:55.26 | Humbedooh | it'd return 1.#INF inside WoW |
| 22:55.28 | kagaro | lua> math.log10(-1) |
| 22:55.28 | lua_bot | kagaro: nan |
| 22:55.36 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber("1.#INF") |
| 22:55.36 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: nil |
| 22:56.06 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04v3.3.21 * r104 : Tagging as Release v3.3.21 |
| 22:56.28 | Shefki | Humbedooh: Actually that return isn't guaranteed to be anything specific. The return is compiler specific. |
| 22:56.42 | Shefki | Humbedooh: And WoW isn't built with the same compiler on PC and Mac. |
| 22:56.51 | kagaro | on the mac it never returns 1.#INF it |
| 22:57.04 | kagaro | it always returns inf on the mac |
| 22:57.11 | Humbedooh | hm, tricky then |
| 22:57.18 | Shefki | 1.#INF is a Microsoft thing. |
| 22:57.29 | Humbedooh | s/microsoft/evil/ |
| 22:57.35 | kagaro | and â1.#INF and -!.#IND |
| 22:58.03 | Humbedooh | so hrmm |
| 22:58.05 | Torhal | kagaro: So it's official? You've written the first WoW library that requires cross-platform checks? |
| 22:58.05 | kagaro | Shefki those should both test as false in an in clause shouldnt they? |
| 22:58.15 | kagaro | *if caluse |
| 22:58.16 | Shefki | I believe they do. |
| 22:58.21 | farmbuyer | I must have some funktacular font set installed, whatever you're typing just before "1.#INF" shows up as a small box with tiny numbers inside of it. |
| 22:58.32 | Humbedooh | ofc you could just do hrmm |
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| 22:58.48 | Humbedooh | tostring(number):match("[a-z]") |
| 22:59.07 | Shefki | kagaro: /dump 1/0 and true or false |
| 22:59.09 | Shefki | true |
| 22:59.19 | Shefki | So guess not. |
| 22:59.34 | Shefki | lua_bot: 1/0 and true or false |
| 22:59.34 | lua_bot | Shefki: true |
| 22:59.56 | Humbedooh | they would test as true |
| 23:00.03 | kagaro | lua> tonumber(1/0) and true |
| 23:00.03 | lua_bot | kagaro: true |
| 23:00.17 | Humbedooh | lua> -1 and true |
| 23:00.17 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 23:00.18 | Repo | 10archud3: 03nyyr * r26 Config.lua: fixed minor bug regarding buff config option |
| 23:00.29 | Humbedooh | any number would return true |
| 23:00.30 | Shefki | If you need to specifically test for one just do something like: |
| 23:00.39 | Shefki | local inf = 1/0 |
| 23:00.44 | Humbedooh | lua> tostring(1/0):match("[a-z]") |
| 23:00.45 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: i |
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| 23:01.18 | Humbedooh | lua> tostring(0/1):match("[a-z]") and true |
| 23:01.18 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: nil |
| 23:01.24 | Humbedooh | lua> tostring(0/1):match("[a-z]") |
| 23:01.25 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: nil |
| 23:01.36 | Humbedooh | hrm |
| 23:01.38 | Shefki | kagaro: Give me a sec I've had to deal with this somewhere. |
| 23:01.47 | Shefki | And I did come up with a solution but it's been a while. |
| 23:01.53 | Humbedooh | teehee |
| 23:01.56 | kagaro | http://paste.wowace.com/2764/ |
| 23:02.05 | kagaro | i tried this but it doenst wrok 100% of the time |
| 23:02.27 | Humbedooh | tostring(num):match("[a-z]") should work |
| 23:02.33 | farmbuyer | I have to ask: in what WoW-ish context are you ending up with infinities? |
| 23:02.43 | Humbedooh | divide by zero fx |
| 23:02.45 | farmbuyer | other than fire mage dps |
| 23:03.07 | Humbedooh | kagaro: try that match() thing on your stuff :) |
| 23:03.28 | Shefki | kagaro: if value < 0 or value ~= value then -- NaN |
| 23:03.40 | kagaro | in my case, its a OnSizeChanged script, and during a SetPoint call I get back inf for frame height or width |
| 23:04.13 | farmbuyer | okay, that's what I couldn't figure out. usually not a lot of zero division in wow... |
| 23:04.16 | Shefki | inf ~= inf |
| 23:04.29 | Humbedooh | doesn't work, Shefki :< |
| 23:05.19 | kagaro | lua> x = 1/0; x ~= x |
| 23:05.19 | lua_bot | kagaro: luabot:1: '=' expected near '~=' |
| 23:06.02 | Shefki | lua_bot: 1/0 ~= 1/0 |
| 23:06.02 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
| 23:06.13 | Shefki | I remember finding a trick that always worked. |
| 23:06.52 | Shefki | Ahh here we go |
| 23:06.59 | Shefki | lua_bot: 1/0 - 1 < 1/0 |
| 23:06.59 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
| 23:07.16 | Pneumatus | lua> type(1/0) |
| 23:07.16 | lua_bot | Pneumatus: number |
| 23:07.33 | Shefki | For any real number that should be true. |
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| 23:08.00 | Shefki | so do x - 1 < x |
| 23:08.59 | Humbedooh | indeedy! |
| 23:09.03 | Humbedooh | pie for Shefki |
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| 23:09.37 | Shefki | Actually I'd do this: |
| 23:09.49 | Shefki | if value ~= value or value - 1 == value then -- NaN |
| 23:10.14 | kagaro | im doing if (w-1 < w) and (h-1 < h) then run code end |
| 23:10.57 | Shefki | Probably the better test is value - 1 == value, but either way should work. |
| 23:11.35 | kagaro | lua> 1/0-1 == 1/0 |
| 23:11.35 | lua_bot | kagaro: true |
| 23:11.53 | Shefki | infinity will always equal itself. |
| 23:12.19 | Humbedooh | works with indefinite as well |
| 23:12.44 | Shefki | Be careful there. |
| 23:12.51 | Shefki | lua_bot: 0/0-1 == 0/0 |
| 23:12.51 | lua_bot | Shefki: false |
| 23:13.05 | Shefki | nan never equals itself. |
| 23:13.28 | Humbedooh | no but it's less than itself |
| 23:13.42 | Humbedooh | as in, 0/0-1 < 0/0 = false |
| 23:14.00 | Shefki | It's also greater than itself. |
| 23:14.09 | Humbedooh | and smarter! |
| 23:14.16 | Shefki | Because it's any value except itself. |
| 23:14.38 | Repo | 10libbackdrop-1-0: 03kagaro 07master * 1.0.7-6-g62c7b64 LibBackdrop-1.0.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 23:14.39 | Repo | 62c7b64: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/libbackdrop-1-0/mainline |
| 23:14.40 | Repo | 65b5a29: Fixed infinite/indiscremeidate checks |
| 23:14.40 | Shefki | So I guess x-1 < x works as a single test for all NaN conditions. |
| 23:14.47 | Humbedooh | ye |
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| 23:19.41 | farmbuyer | why is there no /meh emote in the game yet? |
| 23:20.07 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta16-12-g8068e65 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Disable Groups on WoW build 13221 so that profiles will work. For people that don't care about Groups but keep complaining about profiles. |
| 23:21.14 | Stanzilla | Shefki: super secrect branch now? :( |
| 23:21.30 | Shefki | Stanzilla: I'm getting there. |
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| 23:21.41 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 23:21.47 | Stanzilla | what's missing? |
| 23:21.58 | Shefki | I'm just going to rip out some functionality. |
| 23:22.08 | Shefki | That I've never gotten working satisfactorily. |
| 23:22.24 | Shefki | And that after thinking about it for a long time I decided I don't want. |
| 23:22.40 | Stanzilla | for example? |
| 23:22.53 | Shefki | When anchoring a group to another group. |
| 23:23.13 | Shefki | It had code to deal with the offsets for you. |
| 23:23.30 | Shefki | But there's all sorts of issues doing that. |
| 23:23.39 | Shefki | And it still doesn't really solve all the problems. |
| 23:23.47 | Shefki | You'll still have to adjust other things if you adjust the other one. |
| 23:24.16 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 23:27.07 | Pneumatus | kagaro: using the raid flex lockout updates to determine boss kills sounds like an awesome idea btw :P |
| 23:28.44 | Caleb| | Shefki when are support for boss frames comming to pitbull? |
| 23:29.04 | Shefki | When I sit down and rewrite the Group code. |
| 23:29.12 | Caleb| | hope thats not one of those you were talking about |
| 23:29.53 | Stanzilla | it is :P |
| 23:30.01 | Caleb| | aww |
| 23:30.07 | Shefki | I haven't even started with that stuff. |
| 23:41.19 | Repo | 10gridstatusdirectionarrows: 03slaren * r9 GridStatusDirectionArrows.lua: |
| 23:41.20 | Repo | - Check the mouse focus unit frame when filtering by mouseover is enabled (works at a longer range) |
| 23:41.21 | Repo | - Added support to filter by focus target too |
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| 23:44.18 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r37 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:44.19 | Repo | Rewrote Spell Ready triggers so that more than one at a time will work per Spell/Item. |
| 23:44.25 | Repo | 10pitbull4_holypowerbar: 03Starinnia * r8 HolyPowerBar.lua: -small tweak to update function |
| 23:44.27 | Repo | 10pitbull4_soulshardbar: 03Starinnia * r5 SoulShardBar.lua: -small tweak to update function |
| 23:46.47 | Repo | 10pitbull4_holypowerbar: 03Starinnia 041.0.2 * r9 : Tagging as 1.0.2 |
| 23:47.52 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh * r39 Doodle.lua: Exiting an empty doodle will not save it. |
| 23:47.53 | Repo | Added a color button for tablet users (like me) |
| 23:47.54 | Repo | Added a bit of tooltip info to the saved doodles in the storyboard. |
| 23:52.49 | Repo | 10pitbull4_holypowerbar: 03Starinnia * r10 HolyPowerBar.lua: -don't display on non-player frames |
