IRC log for #wowace on 20101029

00:00.10thelibrarianah, must not have the converter module installed
00:00.20Gnarfozno, she's simply not called prul
00:00.27thelibrarianLOL
00:00.31thelibrarianpurl, change 49 EUR to USD
00:00.50Gnarfoz~google 49eur in usd
00:00.53syerenActually I was thinking of OVH as they have quite a lot of servers in Germany :p
00:00.58thelibrarianwhy do you hate me so purl? is it because I misspelled your name?
00:02.47Gnarfozaccording to their website, they don't host in germany *shrug*
00:02.48Aikarthe hell are jehova witnesses knocking on my door at 8pm
00:03.11Aikarlol and i answered with my shirt off too, im a big guy so i got some man boobs, bet they loved that!
00:03.20Gnarfoz~Aikar++
00:03.36syerenAikar, I could answer that question very simply, but I don't know what the rules are regarding religion in here.
00:03.36syeren;)
00:04.02Megalonreligion is handled like oppinion
00:04.09Megalonit's fine as long as you have the right one
00:04.21Aikarlol no debating over it... its just not usual for them to knock on a door on a thursday night O.o
00:04.55SunTsuAikar: the last time jehova's witnesses visited me I cited the bible saying that women have to shut up in the public and closed the door. Never ever have seen them since
00:05.03Aikarlol...
00:05.04syerenGnarfoz, ovh.net used to be their German seller site, I think they discontinued selling though.
00:05.16syerenI know there are definitately german OVH boxes though from my SCC Swarms :p
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00:05.47Gnarfozsyeren: that's their primary site overall, and they do have ovh.de - however, they don't list any datacenters in germany, neither their own nor rented, so I guess they don't
00:06.02doom0rAikar: least you don't have grandparents that try to shove it down your throat everytime you hear them, be glad for the door to door instead
00:06.38Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r145 flagRSP2.toc: Version increment.
00:07.06SunTsuParnic: login just worked for me
00:07.51doom0ralso, next time, ask them for the Kirby cause your floor is dirty and you wanna try it out
00:08.23Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.4.3 Release * r146 : Tagging as 2.4.3 Release
00:09.05SunTsumaybe turning to Webhostlist (WHL) if one is looking for hosters with german data centers would be a good idea
00:09.09TrelaAny one know a LDB display for experience/leveling?  I am failing at searching for one.  :P
00:09.20GnarfozSunTsu: noone was doing that, though
00:09.42GnarfozTrela: I think I've got Broker_XPRate installed (and disabled)
00:09.47SunTsuGnarfoz: then it's great I never talked about that either
00:09.52GnarfozSunTsu: :D
00:10.14TrelaGnarfoz: Will look it up, thank you.  :3
00:10.48WobinTrela: I just use xparky =P
00:11.06Stanzillahttp://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/949334-hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung/
00:11.08Stanzillayay
00:11.12doom0rcurses Wobin's bright lights
00:11.52TrelaWobin: Huh, some guy named Wobin makes it.  Weird!
00:12.05harlbelieves in natural spirits and acts agnostic towards actual theism, so he just doesn't care.
00:12.06WobinCurse his handsome face!
00:12.55Wobinharl|LieToMe: You're a good man!
00:13.10harl|LieToMethanks for saying that :)
00:14.47GnarfozStanzilla: still no 2.2 for galaxy s -_- I'm feeling a little HTCy by now ^^
00:15.10Stanzilla^^
00:15.14StanzillaI need a new phone
00:15.23SunTsuGnarfoz: it's one of the big problems with Samsung, it ever has been
00:15.24Stanzillaand I wanted to wait for the nexus two
00:15.26TrelaWobin: 4.0 compatible version?
00:15.28Stanzillawill take ages tho :(
00:15.35WobinTrela: worksforme
00:16.00Gnarfozthere's beta versions already, so they're going to deliver it at some point, but it's taking ages -.-
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00:18.28SunTsuSamsung is good at making Stuff, their bad at supporting it
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00:24.27TrelaSo far every experience thingy I have tried has nothing I want.  XD
00:24.56Gnarfozwhat do you want, then
00:25.29TrelaOne much like the default that comes with Fubar or Titan Panel.
00:25.44Gnarfozfubar doesn't come with anything
00:25.48TrelaBroker_XPRate shows me the information I want, but only in a a tooltip I have to fight for.
00:25.54TrelaThere is a default pack for it.
00:25.56Gnarfozno
00:25.59Gnarfozthere isn't :D
00:26.27TrelaThere is.  :D  Not an official one, but basically a "grab this to get started" pack.
00:26.30Gnarfozfubar is a display addon. I don't know if TitanPanel has kept on bundling data providers when they converted it to a LDB display
00:26.37Gnarfozwho cares about "not official"?
00:26.44TrelaI do.
00:26.53Gnarfozgrabs the moron stamp
00:26.58Gnarfozanyway, what do they display, then?
00:27.11TrelaI have not used Fubar in two years.  :P
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00:29.12TrelaTitanXP
00:29.43Gnarfoz^ what do they display, then?
00:29.56TrelaI can probably just use TitanXP.  <.<  >.>
00:30.00Gnarfozoh, since it 's 02:30, brain is slow
00:30.04Gnarfoz...yeah, was just going to say that
00:30.18GnarfozTP is just a LDB display now, should be able to use theirs
00:30.46TrelaJust the panel thingy itself was pissing me off so I moved to ChocolateBar.
00:32.13Trelahead desks.
00:32.19TrelaThey all REQUIRE Titan to run.
00:33.06TrelaThey are LDB displays so they should not require it...
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00:34.01Firepatchantiarc; or anyone who might know offhand, any plans to update sexycooldown?
00:34.19GnarfozTrela: I doubt they do.
00:34.42TrelaGnarfoz: Doubt they are actually LDB or require Titan?
00:34.59Gnarfozrequired ldb? they embed ldb, they can't require it
00:35.07Gnarfozrequire Titan, thus
00:35.09TrelaLooking at the code, they do not use LDB and use Titan's built in plug in system.
00:35.21GnarfozTitan is a LDB display, wtf
00:35.21durcynit's my understanding that titan supports ldb, but legacy plugins still use the old protocol
00:35.28Gnarfozoh great.
00:35.43TrelaHerp derp.
00:35.46GnarfozI'd say best of both worlds, but that's not quite appropriate
00:35.54TrelaIt got me hopes up!
00:36.02durcynwhy would you want that shit anyway?  go get picoEXP or something if you want a display for that
00:36.48durcynor idExperience if you want statistics
00:36.59doom0rxpbar, allxp also
00:39.34Gnarfozwell, I already asked what he wants to have displayed :D
00:39.35TrelaPicoEXP is close, half way there.  :3
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00:39.44TrelaGnarfoz: Everything TitanXP does.
00:40.02doom0rwhat else do you need?
00:40.03Gnarfozhow the hell is anyone supposed to know what that amounts to?
00:40.05TrelaIf TitanXP is perfect, then I would want some thing similar in another LDB AddOn.
00:40.15doom0rexplain yourself
00:41.13durcynif you're talking about kills/hour sort of thing, i already mentioned idExperience
00:41.27durcynbut that's just one-off math for each gain
00:41.57TrelaI am a troll!(Literally!)  Also, experience on the main display portion(text) and not some random customized value that means nothing to me.  A tooltip with statistics, etcetera.
00:42.24durcynhow is a percentage not useful?
00:42.57TrelaPercentages are meaningless without numbers to back them up.
00:43.00durcynalso, the picoEXP tooltip has the full numbers, rest perecent, time for the session, experience for the session, etc
00:43.05durcynmouse over it, goofball
00:43.18TrelaI did mouse over PicoEXP.
00:43.27TrelaWhich is why I said it is about half of what I need.  :3
00:43.50doom0rbut you don't specifically explain what the other half you need it
00:43.54doom0rs/it/is/
00:43.56Mirrormntrela, I'm gonna write you an addon that displays an opaque black texture over your entire screen
00:44.06Mirrormnand then it will calculate your xp/hour
00:44.12durcynyou haven't actually said what exactly you're missing from the old one, therefore go away
00:44.29TrelaMirrormn: Too late, I already do that black covering boxes in my own add on.  D:
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00:44.47Wobinshrugs, xparky has XP to go
00:44.50Mirrormnand it will set the opacity of the texture to be inveresly proportional to how close you are to your highest historical xp/sec
00:44.50TrelaI shall not go away!  :P
00:44.52Mirrormner
00:44.54Mirrormnxp/hour
00:44.54Wobinand percentage I think
00:44.58Wobinthat's all I need =P
00:45.04Mirrormnso if you don't keep leveling hardcore, your vision slowly dims
00:45.09Mirrormnand if you stop, you're blind
00:45.35TrelaI did try Xparky.  The text configuration options left me sad.  :x
00:45.38doom0rschedules a ticket with Mirrormn for option to change color
00:45.56Gnarfozxparky was a horrible, failed attempt to one-up fubar_xpfu
00:45.57Gnarfoz:D
00:46.13TrelaMaybe I should just write exactly what I am looking for.  <.<  >.>
00:46.14durcynxparky's okay, but the LDB feed is an abomination
00:46.14Gnarfoz(too bad, xpfu was <3)
00:46.39durcyni use the bar, but i had to grab picoEXP to be able to read the feed
00:46.49Wobinjust change the colours then =P
00:47.12WobinGnarfoz: I know, that dude totally sold out!
00:47.27GnarfozWobin: oh shut up, you
00:47.43durcyni've been using chocolatebar, he does zero font overrides on anything
00:47.45Mirrormnand not only am I going to put this texture on the tooltip layer and then I am going to hook CreateFrame to dynamically keep it a frame level above any other frame that is created
00:48.03Mirrormnthat was a grammatical failure -.-
00:48.11durcyni could poke around in your code, but i'm lazy =P
00:48.25MirrormnI am going to obfuscate the code and then also somehow encrypt it
00:48.37Treladurcyn: You can change the color, but I could not decide on one color.  XD
00:51.06Wobindurcyn: no change the colour of the bar
00:51.26WobinI'm fairly sure the text colour is linked to the bar colour
00:51.32Wobinbut it's been a while since I looked at the code
00:52.02ShefkiLooks like they broke the RestrictedEnvironment on beta again.  Weee.
00:52.16pompyyep, the action bar shit right?
00:52.40Shefkipompy: Pretty much anything that can't be done without secure code not just action bars.
00:52.53durcynWobin: that's silly.
00:53.00TorhalShefki: I blame pompy.
00:53.05TrelaShefki: LOL key press bots?
00:53.27Seeker`any idea how I can get the slug changed on my curseforge project?
00:53.43doom0rindecent favors
00:53.54ShefkiTrela: key press bots?
00:54.04Wobindurcyn: inorite?
00:54.06TorhalSeeker`: What project?
00:54.13Seeker`Torhal: roguething-exporter
00:54.43TrelaShefki: Some of the original restricted code was the ability for Lua to press keys.  There used to be a bot that was entirely in add on code.
00:54.53Seeker`Torhal: should like it changed to ShadowCraftTools
00:54.55IbliseHas blizzard said anything regarding the secure coding changes?
00:54.55Iblised
00:55.30ShefkiTrela: I don't think this stuff has anything to do with that.
00:55.33TorhalSeeker`: Seeker` Slug can't be mixed-case. I changed it to http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/shadowcraft-tools/
00:55.48ShefkiThere's no way to press a key from the RestrictedEnvironment.
00:55.50Seeker`Torhal: thanks :)
00:55.55Torhalnp
00:55.58Seeker`Torhal: that changes the git repository path too?
00:56.10ShefkiIt's probably just a typo somewhere that broke the RestrictedEnvironment becuase it's saying InvalidEnvironment anytime you try to run something in one.
00:56.17TorhalSeeker`: Yup. git@git.curseforge.net:wow/shadowcraft-tools/mainline.git
00:56.41ShefkiLast time it was a simple as forgetting to pass the 2nd value to GetManagedEnvironment()
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00:56.56Connor_Any priests?
00:57.24doom0rhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10019&sid=1
00:59.21ShefkiTrela: So I really doubt breaking all of the restricted environments was their fix to a bot.  Since I doubt they care about bots on beta that badly.
00:59.49TrelaShefki: That does not make sense.  What?
01:00.03TrelaI am talking about waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in WoW 1.x days.
01:00.19TrelaHell, possibly not even 1.11.
01:00.27ShefkiAnd I've been talking about Cata beta.
01:00.35ShefkiSo why would you even mention it?
01:00.50TrelaPart of the restricted environment code is key presses.
01:00.53Trela*are
01:00.56ShefkiThat's not the same code.
01:01.05ShefkiThat's SecureTemplates.
01:01.10TrelaGranted, there are no interfaces for it, but it is within the same realm.
01:01.16ShefkiRestrictedEnvironments haven't been around that long.
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01:02.17Seeker`Torhal: Should it automatically change the name of the zip file generated?
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01:04.20TorhalSeeker`: Not retroactively.
01:05.50arkanespeople who use bots patch Wows lua interpreter to remove the protection checks, what they did on Beta wouldn't affect that
01:06.19ShefkiTrela: First appeared in build 8622, which was during Wrath beta.
01:06.57Seeker`Torhal: just pushed a new version, file on curseforge is still called roguething-exporter.zip
01:07.07Megalonrestricts Shefki's environment
01:07.12Megalonputs Fisker in it
01:07.35Shefkitaints Fisker and sends him to the garbage collector.
01:07.44Gnarfoztaint him MORE?
01:08.04Gnarfozit's shefki who's breaking environments, apparently
01:10.26Megalonprobably touched him with his magic wand
01:12.51Gnarfozbash quote, harry potter, s/wand/wang/g etc
01:14.22Mirrormnindeed, why even present humor when you can just reference it succinctly
01:14.40TorhalSeeker`: Do you have a "package-as:" line in your .pkgmeta?
01:14.45Seeker`Torhal: nope
01:14.50Gnarfozsleep is overrated
01:14.58Seeker`Torhal: I don't have a .pkgmeta
01:15.22TorhalSeeker`: o.O
01:15.28TorhalAnywho, go to Edit Project
01:15.32TorhalThen edit your repository
01:15.35TorhalIt's there.
01:16.05Connor_Anyone here play a priest?
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01:16.29Seeker`Torhal: thanks, just spotted that :)
01:16.34TorhalFisker does, when he's trolling for choirboys.
01:16.39TorhalSeeker`: np
01:18.52Connor_Nevermind I fixed it
01:20.54starlonhah I hope Blizz never takes away the engineering rocket boots and parachute. These are the most fun I've had in WoW in a long time. I've been deploying the parachute in my intercept macro and when I hit the rocket boots. I've been jumping off The Violet Citadel, landing way down the road. :)
01:21.42durcynjust for you, i hope engineering is removed and any characters with it lose the profession slot permanently
01:21.48durcyni mean, hi starlon
01:21.55starlonhehehe :)
01:22.49starlonI don't think they're bringing back the end-game googles like last expansion. Sad.
01:23.05starlonSpeaking of BC
01:23.29starlonThat's why I kept engineering, because I liked the goggles.
01:25.53Torhaldurcyn: Well, considering the fact that this is engineering...wouldn't the other slot be caught in the explosion?
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01:27.15RepoAdded support and options for using Blizzard role check data
01:27.16RepoAdded option to change units per column/row
01:28.04durcyni'm not vindictive.
01:28.16RepoFixed a bug with indexing headers after pet group header
01:28.17RepoChanged width of some options UI elements to avoid truncation
01:28.28Megalonstarlon: they will just change cogwheels/hydraulics
01:28.33Megalonto account for raid tiers
01:28.50Megalonor for profession bonus
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01:31.01Connor_If I'm getting a physical copy of Cataclysm will I be able to have it downloaded like the digital download people will?
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01:31.33ShefkiConnor_: Just cancel your physical order.
01:31.38Connor_No
01:31.42Connor_I preordered collector's edition
01:31.51ShefkiThen I'd say you're screwed.
01:32.11Connor_Okay
01:32.39ShefkiYou could buy a digital download copy and then just apply the CE key later.
01:32.44ShefkiBut you're doubling up on the cost then.
01:33.08Mirrormndigital copy isn't unlocked until 3:01am... is that not 3 hours later than physical copy?
01:33.40ShefkiMirrormn: I would guess that nobody is unlocked this time around until 12:01 am.
01:33.46ShefkiPacific that is.
01:33.57ShefkiI'd guess they just won't enable the access to the servers till then.
01:34.04MirrormnI dunno about that
01:34.35ShefkiWell if you live in Pacific time it makes no difference.
01:34.47durcynadding the retail key to your account puts you in the same state as buying the upgrade through battle.net
01:34.53ShefkiExcept with the download you'll be able to start right at midnight instead of picking it up.
01:34.57durcynso, if you already preordered, welp.
01:34.59MirrormnI live in eastern time
01:35.22Mirrormnwhat's with this talk of 12:01am though?
01:35.37ShefkiMirrormn: I doubt they'll make the same mistake as last time with different street dates and achievements for realm firsts.
01:35.44Mirrormnthe page I read specifically said 3:01am
01:35.47durcyn12:01 AM PST is when they're enabling the expansion features, regardless of where you obtained it
01:35.54durcynif you're EST, that's 3:01, yes
01:36.07Shefki^ This
01:36.36Mirrormnso the website dynamically detected my time zone and converted the quoted time to my time zone, even though I know Blizzard is based in California and always uses pacific time
01:36.45Mirrormnand then didn't inform me of this
01:36.50Mirrormnwhat an anti-feature
01:36.52durcynbuying it on battle.net just saves you a trip to a retail hole full of (other) sweaty nerds
01:36.55durcynwhich site?
01:37.08Mirrormnit was a blizzard site
01:37.45Shefki"and your account will be flagged for automatic access to Cataclysm when it launches at 12:01 a.m. PST on December 7."
01:37.57Mirrormnhttp://us.battle.net/en/info/presale
01:37.59durcynunrelated, but 400mb is up on the background downloader
01:38.02ShefkiFrom www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml
01:38.06Mirrormn"At 3:01 AM on 12/7 your account will be automatically upgraded so you can begin playing Cataclysm."
01:38.11durcynwell, mostly unrelated
01:38.42durcynit's my understanding that the new CD key is already applied, Mirrormn
01:39.03durcynthough I'll still pick up my preorder, I wouldn't be surprised if I was locked out for two hours
01:39.12Mirrormnwell that kind of sucks
01:39.29durcynthey haven't been clear, i assume the worst =P
01:39.39Mirrormnfor wotlk I got my physical copy at 12:00am eastern time and was then able to log on immediately (or so I remember)
01:39.43durcynor, in the case of blizzard, dumbest
01:39.50Mirrormnnow I have to wait till 3:00am!
01:39.51durcynyeah, same here for bc and lk, but this is new and different.
01:40.23Mirrormnit does make sense if it's synchronized to 12:01 pacific time
01:40.50ShefkiMirrormn: There was plenty of whining about the realm first achievements being titled against people in Eastern time last time around.
01:40.57Shefkierr towards
01:41.03MirrormnI just assumed the website I read said the digital unlock would be 3:01am pacific time, which would be 3 hours later than physical copy even in pacific time zones, which wouldn't be synchronized
01:41.27ShefkiYeah I don't think that is their intention.
01:42.09Mirrormnwell they *need* to specify time zone if they're going to dynamically change the time in that announcement based on the detected time zone of the browser
01:42.11ShefkiEven on that page you link if you look below it says 12:01 AM PST in the info.
01:42.28ShefkiMirrormn: If you look at the code for the page it does.
01:42.42Mirrormnooh, it says it down in the fine print
01:42.56MirrormnI still stand by my convictions
01:43.00ShefkiIt's just getting eaten because they put it in an acronym tag and your browser doesn't support it.
01:44.00Mirrormnerm, that is not the case
01:44.41Shefki<p class="caption">At <span class="time 2010-12-07T00:01-08:00">12:01 AM <acronym title="Pacific Standard Time (UTC−8)">PST</acronym></span> on <span class="date 2010-12-07T00:01-08:00">December 7th</span> your account will be automatically upgraded so you can begin playing Cataclysm.</p>
01:44.59ShefkiRight there in the source.
01:45.22Mirrormnyeah, I'm seeing that now
01:45.30Mirrormnso it was Chrome's fault all along
01:45.37Mirrormn=/
01:47.37arkaneshmm my supposed background download of the preorder is not working
01:47.48arkaneswhere'd the option to background download while playing go?
01:51.10ShefkiInterestingly enough the only browser I'm seeing the acronym tag work properly is in Safari.
01:51.17ShefkiAnd even then it doesn't display the popup.
01:52.56MirrormnI'm not sure it's *just* a problem with the acronym tag
01:53.44Mirrormnit seems more like the issue is that the acronym tag is inside the span tag which specifies the time which is presumably later changed using javascript
01:54.11Mirrormnwhich probably causes the whole acronym part to be lost
01:54.20ShefkiThat's possible.
01:54.32ShefkiI didn't dig into the pages javascript or CSS.
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02:01.36vhaarrShefki: you probably did view source in your Gecko browser, which shows the page as it is transmitted; but if you select the relevant part in the browser and right click for "View Selection Source", that will give you the final DOM tree as displayed
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02:03.08Shefkivhaarr: Interesting, didn't know you could do that.
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02:03.31ShefkiAnd looks like their java script is eating their timezone code.
02:03.37ShefkiThat may be intentional.
02:04.02ShefkiSince if they're altering the time to be local time then the hardcode timezone would be wrong.
02:05.09vhaarrso if Safari displays the acronym tag that probably means that it's the only browser where their JS DOESN'T work :P
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02:07.15Mirrormnwell they need to have a dynamic timezone acronym along with their dynamic time and date fields
02:07.18MirrormnDAMNIT
02:08.05vhaarrthat would probably break IE :p
02:08.52Repo10broker_altguild: 03yess 04v1.5 * r18 : Tagging as v1.5
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02:16.13Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta15-4-gc478b0e / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
02:16.14Repoc478b0e: HideBlizzard: Tweak raid hide/show feature.  Defaults to off now.
02:16.15Repod7cff9d: Apply another workaround for ticket #475.
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02:38.10ShefkiAnyone around that has the zhTW version of WoW?
02:38.13ShefkiAnd can log in.
02:41.44Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r15 ProfessionsVault.lua: add more character data
02:41.46Repoalways sort profs
02:41.47Reposmarter resetting and dialog
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02:58.49Repo- added shift-leftbutton as another way to toggle guild repairs. i have middle mouse set to move a window between monitors which triggers at the top of the screen when running fullscreen windowed
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03:05.45pompy@describe professionsvault
03:05.46Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/professionsvault/. ProfessionsVault. Simple and super light-weight tracking of profession links for all your alts.
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04:21.33sylvaanwtf did they do to beta
04:22.30sylvaana-holes
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04:25.57doom0rtick, chronalis, and occulus are all there
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04:54.55zerixwheres the official RGB values of magic/curse/disease/poison?
04:55.04zerixive seen it on wowwiki but cant find it
04:57.18zerixnvm found it in the buffframe
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05:12.00Repo10triage (experimental): 03baps * r11 / (4 files in 1 directory):
05:12.01RepoMove from LUA based UI Widgets to XML based, break up debug test report to three lines.
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05:30.48Repo10ice-hud: 03Rokiyo * r724 modules/Vengeance.lua:
05:30.49Repo- Vengeance module now recycles tables instead of creating new ones all the time.
05:30.58Rokiyoweeeeee
05:31.28Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v4.41 * r186 : Tagging as v4.41
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05:58.01SlaymanIf you think it can't get any worse, Justin Bieber comes in 3D to the cinema
05:58.32Wobincowers in fear
05:59.09doom0rwho's that
05:59.37Repo10pokedex: 03stencil * r101 / (2 files in 1 directory):
05:59.38RepoCan't summon Qiraji scarab mounts in AQ currently, so stop preferring them over regular ground mounts
05:59.59Fiskerhey Wobin
06:00.05Fiskeryou don't like justin bieber?
06:05.24Repo10pokedex: 03stencil 04v3.3.20 * r102 : Tagging as Release v3.3.20
06:08.12WobinFisker: It's true. I don't.
06:12.20Slaymansrsly Pokedex? :D
06:12.29Slayman@describe pokedex
06:12.30RepoSlayman: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pokedex/. Pokedex. mount and companion manager
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06:17.41Shefkihttp://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/839  http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/840  /facepalm
06:18.18ShefkiThe best part is he opened the new ticket 5 minutes after he commented on the one I closed as Invalid.
06:23.25doom0rShefki: no opactiy
06:23.29doom0ronly saturation
06:23.39quiescenso.o
06:24.37Shefkidoom0r: Ehh?
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06:26.39doom0r"with an opacity of 50% so its slightly see through and the color picker box that comes up is missing the opacity slider."
06:27.16doom0rhe's looking in the color picker
06:27.27ShefkiYes.
06:27.28doom0ri think he missed where you were referring to
06:27.37ShefkiThat was his first ticket.
06:27.53ShefkiLook at the screenshot he posted in his comment/second ticket.
06:27.58ShefkiHe obviously found it.
06:28.03ShefkiNow he's insisting it doesn't work.
06:31.28ShefkiAnyway going to bed now.
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06:35.18doom0rstill has background on and people don't understand layers are blending
06:35.29doom0rconfused me when i setup mine last til i found all the settings
06:35.50doom0rthe second ticket is just facepalm though
06:38.54doom0rwhat stops firing when wow is backgrounded?
06:39.18ShefkiDepends on the platform.
06:39.26ShefkiOnUpdate stops firing on Windows but not on Mac.
06:39.29doom0rwin http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/839-color-picker-missing-opacity-slider/?comment=3
06:39.45doom0rgg tanking and chatting
06:39.48doom0rya, win
06:40.15doom0rhflootroll's frames disappear when i background it and resume :O
06:44.36Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r16 ProfessionsVault.lua: minor tweak
06:45.45Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb 041.0 beta3 * r17 : Tagging as 1.0 beta3
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06:52.42orionshockanyone know the URL that the Launcher uses to download patch info?
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06:58.25TrelaI have written a script that uses about 26mbs of RAM, very little CPU, runs with out crashing, queries thousands of pages from the internet, and parses information out to shove into a database.
06:58.37TrelaRuns for hours non-stop... and I wrote it in PHP.
06:58.47TrelaThis makes no logical sense!
06:58.59orionshockTrela, we call that a google spider engine :P
06:59.10mitch0yo
06:59.32TrelaGoogle users PHP?  O.o  I thought they used a lot of Python and C.
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07:00.04TrelaHeya, mitch0.  :D
07:00.31Rokiyoi think the point is more that you wrote a web-spider than you specifically doing something google did :P
07:00.58TrelaI could have summarized it as that.  X3
07:01.08sylvanaar.
07:01.14Rokiyo?
07:01.45sylvanaar*
07:01.49TrelaI am just used to PHP being unable to manage its libraries, running out of memory, and crashing "just because" it was running too long.
07:02.12Rokiyoahh
07:02.28Rokiyoi dont have any experience with PHP, so I didn't know that
07:02.40mitch0php is a pile of crap
07:02.47Rokiyosure sounds like it
07:03.26TrelaWith PHP, you have to do all the memory manage yourself.  It leaves up to the programmer to take care of it.  It does have some built in garbage collection, but will collect garbage created externally.
07:03.33Trela*management
07:03.41Trela*It leaves it...
07:03.44TrelaI am tired.  :P
07:03.49Rokiyolol
07:03.51TrelaI am just proud of my script.  :3
07:03.56mitch0trela: you're coded in php
07:04.03sylvanaarwhat does it do
07:04.15TrelaIt spiders webs, apparently!
07:04.20Rokiyohe points his script at the internet, and it inhales
07:04.21sylvanaarapparently
07:04.32TrelaActually it runs the blue tracker back end.
07:04.41Rokiyoooer
07:04.53Rokiyothe mmo-champ one?
07:05.03Rokiyoor your own?
07:05.04TrelaThe new unreleased one.
07:05.12Rokiyooh, shiny
07:05.19TrelaIt is shiny.  :D
07:05.34sylvanaarneed more http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18751
07:06.40TrelaClosed tickets on commit would be sweet.
07:06.56Rokiyointruiging
07:06.59sylvanaari have written comment on ticket on commit
07:07.14sylvanaarbut its only for TortoiseSVN
07:07.30sylvanaarstill its handy
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07:08.02sylvanaarbut so many bug systems already have this
07:09.00sylvanaarim thinking about converting Prat to Hg
07:09.16sylvanaarand ACP too
07:09.27sylvanaarbecause of....
07:09.43orionshockcould prolly use git hooks too.. :)
07:10.06sylvanaarhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/bubblicious/mainline/file/3fb60ad4f7f3/Bubbles.lua
07:10.16sylvanaarHg has a repo browser
07:10.46orionshocktrue...
07:11.02orionshockgit and svn need some love too....  Kaelten
07:11.08TrelaI need to convert flagRSP2 to hg.  D:
07:11.17sylvanaarKaelten: loves Hg like me
07:11.19TrelaSVN can DIAF!
07:11.37sylvanaar<3
07:12.09sylvanaarthe only thing is that I don't know how to convert my repo's
07:12.15sylvanaarI can convert on my end
07:12.23sylvanaarbut what do i do on the curse side
07:12.29sylvanaardelete the repo?
07:12.38TrelaRepository tab, Edit Repository, change it to what you want.
07:12.48TrelaBasically you will start with a fresh repository.
07:13.00TrelaHowever, the old repository will still be there in limbo.
07:13.01orionshocksylvanaar, yeah just change the repo type & it'll set up a blank one for you
07:13.07sylvanaarok
07:13.16sylvanaarill so it from work
07:13.36orionshockorly?
07:13.36sylvanaars/so/do/
07:13.57TrelaMy one project breaks the packager when I change it to hg.  >.>;
07:14.10sylvanaarlol
07:14.39orionshockTrela, u know i tried to make a replacement to flagRSP2 .... or more like my own version there of...
07:15.02TrelaMarySue, correct?
07:15.13Repo10sexycooldown: 03mangeg 07master * v0.6.18-3-g3d77c2d Modules/Spells.lua: [+1 commit] Fix caching of spell book. Some items does not provide links anymore (Attack and more).
07:15.20orionshockdidn't go very far... found out im not a RP kind of person
07:15.38Slaymantrick or treat sale on Steam.
07:16.03SlaymanMan How I wish someone would remember Stubbs Rebel without a pulse, a truly superior zombiegame
07:16.52Trelaorionshock: It takes dedication and crazy.
07:17.18orionshockmore like dedication to crazy.. i got both just not compounded by each other.... :)
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07:25.07Hirsutesylvanaar: Are you aware that clicking on the Okay button when renaming an addon set still yields an error?
07:25.11Hirsute(in ACP)
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07:44.11Repo10right-wing: 03sylvanaar * r7 / (3 files in 1 directory): toc 40000  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
07:44.12Repo## X-Compatible-With: 40000
07:44.13RepoTOC 30300
07:44.14RepoTOC 30200 (lol)
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07:47.13Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r52 / (21 files in 3 directories): set the number of addon sets to 25  (Message trimmed by 50 lines)
07:47.14RepoTOC 40000
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07:47.17Repofix self anchoring error
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07:53.01sylvanaar_work=) http://hg.wowace.com/wow/acp/mainline
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07:55.04sylvanaar_workmaybe i did it wrong
07:55.07sylvanaar_workoh well
07:55.20sylvanaar_worktoo late
07:55.45sylvanaar_worki imported trunk only
07:55.49sylvanaar_workcrap
07:56.16Slaymanwhat do you guys use to track your prayer of mending?
07:57.19sbuwhy track? :p
07:57.31sbujust press the key every 10 seconds, i dont care ;)
07:57.35Slaymanso you don't wast a charge ? :D
07:57.54sbui dont see any waste there, cast on cooldown is fine
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07:58.06Rokiyogrid is pretty good at only showing you your stuff
07:58.56Rokiyoand by pretty good, i mean damn near flawless
07:59.50Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r146 / (4 files in 1 directory): fixed move frames on battle
08:01.52Repo10professionsvault: 03oscarucb * r18 / (3 files in 1 directory): add config GUI and setting reset
08:01.53Repomore responsive status text
08:01.54Repofix possible embed lib problem on case-sensitive FS
08:03.43Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r118 / (21 files in 3 directories): set the number of addon sets to 25  (Message trimmed by 62 lines)
08:03.43RepoTagging as 3.3.8
08:03.45RepoTOC 40000
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08:03.47Reporan the code formatter on the source
08:03.58sylvanaar_workthar we go
08:05.21sylvanaar_worklooks like you get a few minutes until your svn repo is deleted
08:06.13sylvanaar_workhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/acp/mainline (now with tags)  =)
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08:08.44sylvanaar_workhere goes nothing
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08:09.26Repofix global references
08:09.27Repodrycode: remove LibBabbleClass
08:09.28Repodrop a couple fonts I don't like and add DejaVu
08:09.29Reporemoved TOP-BOTTOM scrolling option due to blizzard bug. (#451)
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08:16.25Slaymanlol let's  say I have moved the blizzard Addon Frame to far to the top so I can#t get it back, what to do? :D
08:17.22doom0rsetpoint
08:18.00Slaymandoom0r: a little more explicit? or some link, not actually an addon creator
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08:18.24doom0r!api setpoint
08:18.24lua_botRegion:SetPoint: Sets an anchor point for the region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint)
08:18.39doom0rset it back to center, 0, 0 prob
08:18.52doom0rshould put it in center of screen
08:20.16doom0rand unless you have something saving pos, most blizz frames reset pos on reload
08:20.26TrelaGood night!
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08:22.53Slaymandoom0r: reloading fixed it thanks
08:24.53doom0r103 sentinel's down, 96 more and red mount isn't keeping to it's listed rate =\
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08:35.51evlwhich mount is this? :P
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08:48.24Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r119 .hgtags: Added tag 3.3.9 for changeset 558e8517963d
08:57.13sylvanaar_workits going to be a while until it finishes making all the Prat zips
08:58.34sylvanaar_workwhich it is of course doing out of order
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09:12.53sylvanaar_work5 minutes x 673
09:12.58sylvanaar_workhow long is that
09:13.09sylvanaar_worklol
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09:22.11evl56 hours
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09:40.26sylvanaar_workyay bricked my ipad trying to update to 4.2b3
09:40.53sylvanaar_worknot really bricked, DFU still works
09:41.08sylvanaar_workstill
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09:50.24Hatibeta shaman here?
09:50.29Mikkbites Talented for tainting glyph ui
09:52.45evlI'm getting a shitload of wierd taint myself
09:52.57evllike fiddling with TargetFrame taints BuffFrame oO
10:06.06vhaarrMikk: the whole world taints the glyph UI now, or at least any addon that uses a StaticPopupDialog will taint it
10:06.23vhaarrunless you're lucky
10:06.47Repo10minimalist: 03whizkid * r107 Minimalist.lua: - (add) hold down the <SHIFT> to override automation
10:06.48Repo- (minor) smaller fixes
10:08.13vhaarrMikk: I discovered it last week and tried to get it confirmed in #wowace, which I did; http://www.wowace.com/addons/recount/tickets/252-tainted-staticpopupdialog/
10:13.59ShadniXoO?
10:14.16ShadniXok, that explains the last two bug reports i've recieved
10:14.55ShadniXthanks, vhaarr
10:17.30mitch0anyone happen to know where tomtom's repo is?
10:18.38vhaarrShadniX: hehe no problem, can I ask which addon?
10:18.44vhaarrmitch0: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tomtom/
10:19.11mitch0thanks (although that's just a mirror, isn't it?)
10:20.54vhaarryeah I think they're actually on hosted on wowi
10:23.35ShadniXvhaarr: "Mizus RaidTracker" - have gotten the same description about an error with the glyph UI, and I had no clue about the cause up until know and wasn't able to reproduce this
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10:25.07vhaarryeah that index 1-4 is a bastard ^^
10:29.03Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r147 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed position timeleft
10:31.01mitch0gah, git doesn't support port spec in the url?
10:31.37sztanpetit should
10:32.13mitch0ssh: repos.wowace.com:2022: Name or service not known
10:32.21syerenAnyone here use a Logitech G700?
10:32.29sztanpetg500 here
10:32.35syerenYeah, I have a G500
10:32.41mitch0it "works" without the port part, but then of course it doesn't connect to the good server...
10:32.42syerenG700 looks like a nice upgrade.
10:34.53Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r148 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed position timeleft
10:34.56sztanpetmeh, if i find a mouse that i like, im buying two of them and dont upgrade until both of them crap themselves
10:35.16mitch0mx518
10:35.27syerenmx518 was my first gaming mouse.
10:35.30syerenR.I.P.
10:35.32sztanpetyea, i had that before a razer imperator
10:35.45sztanpetand i regret buying the razer ever since
10:36.00mitch0just by another mx518. it's not that expensive
10:36.00Repo10bison: 03Grayal 042.1.10-release * r149 : fixed position timeleft
10:36.02Repofixed movable frames on battle
10:36.07mitch0and best mouse ever
10:36.16sztanpeti know, but i bought a g500, marginally better
10:36.25mitch0in what way?
10:36.30syerenG500 is the true evolution of the MX518 in my honest opinion.
10:36.32syerenSeriously.
10:36.48syerenJust the texture of the G500 tears off my skin while I am having chemo.
10:36.49syeren:p
10:36.49sztanpetnothing that matters really
10:37.02mitch0is that wireless, too? (like the g700)
10:37.05sztanpetno
10:37.11sztanpetim not buying wireless mice
10:37.18mitch0me neither
10:37.40syerenModern Wireless gaming mice are intelligent enough to go into wired mode with USB though :p
10:38.01syerenBut all 2 of them are quite expensive xD
10:38.08sztanpetyea, but i just dont want to deal with it, i have no prob with the wires
10:38.19mitch0I don't like the form-factor of the g500
10:38.29mitch0nah, it's crap
10:38.38mitch0mx518 wins
10:38.39sztanpetits exactly the same as the mx518
10:38.40sztanpet:D
10:38.44mitch0no
10:38.51sztanpetthe only difference is with the button placement
10:39.11mitch0so? that kills it for me
10:39.15syerenButton placement and texture on the side.
10:39.23syerenTexture on the side is boss if your skin doesn't fall off xD
10:40.16mitch0the mx518 is the same as the mx510, right?
10:40.20sztanpetdont like the middle mouse button on the g500 tho, the feature where you can push the middle button sideways just sucks and makes the middle click unusable
10:40.35syerenThe middle mouse button on the G500 is fucking TERRIBLE.
10:40.38syerenI agree with you on that.
10:40.43syerenG700 fixed that shit.
10:40.55sztanpetyea
10:41.07syerenSeriously, in my browser trying to middle click my bookmarks
10:41.13syerenAmount of times it just closes the menu....
10:41.14syeren-_-
10:41.50sztanpeti rebound the middle click to the button near the left click
10:42.19sztanpetanyway, if i had to buy another mouse after my mx518 i would buy another mx518 thats true, g500 is nice tho, i dont regret it
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10:43.20evlCan I expect to modify the health format on the TargetFrame without tainting or can I just give up before I start?
10:43.31evlI'd like it to show 100% - 400k instead of just percent
10:44.54nebula169could just create a frame anchored to the bar with the actual number without touching anything, for example
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10:46.06mitch0sztanpet: the g5 costs almost twice the mx518...
10:46.48sztanpetyea
10:47.40sztanpetas i mentioned, its marginally better, but if i had the choice i would have gone with another mx518
10:48.25nebula169don't have to take a mx518 apart to change the weight of it
10:48.32nebula169erm, g5**
10:48.34sylvanaar_workman prat is going to be in the packager queue all day
10:48.44mitch0sztanpet: what stopped you from getting an mx518?
10:49.02sztanpetthere was none in the store, and i was fed up with my razer imperator
10:49.12sztanpetunusable piece of shit
10:49.48nebula169using Hg with prat now, eh?
10:49.51sylvanaar_workyes
10:50.03nebula169any reason? was svn before, no?
10:50.11sylvanaar_worki love hg
10:50.14sylvanaar_workalso
10:50.31sylvanaar_workhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline
10:50.34sylvanaar_workclick
10:50.45nebula169oh snap
10:51.20sylvanaar_workyeah, that was the final nail in svn's coffin (for non-libs)
10:52.39profalbertfor non-libs. because of the keyword-substitution?
10:53.11sylvanaar_workno, because i feel that libs should be easy to access - since they are used by multiple people
10:53.29sylvanaar_worknot everyone can use Hg, or Git for that matter
10:53.45mitch0what's that switch at the bottom of the g700?
10:53.52profalbertusing the lib does not require to use the VCS behind it, or does it?
10:54.00sylvanaar_workediting
10:54.25sylvanaar_workshared libs need to be editable by the people using them...imho
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10:54.55SlaymanI have bought a G9 mouse, with all the added promotions it cost me 40 bucks
10:54.58profalbertlibs should only be editable by competent people (not saying that I am)
10:55.17Slaymannot the best choice btw
10:55.43sylvanaar_worki think i have a G7
10:55.44sylvanaar_worki like it
10:55.45mitch0nah, all in all, I'll get an mx518
10:55.57mitch0sylvanaar: what does the switch on the bottom do?
10:56.00Slaymanmx518 is the best choice
10:56.04sylvanaar_workdunno
10:56.06Slaymanimo
10:56.14sylvanaar_worki may not have a swtich on the bottom
10:56.21profalbertI had G7, until the charger broke
10:56.29sylvanaar_workcharger?
10:56.32sylvanaar_workmine is wired
10:56.39sylvanaar_workmaybe its a G <7
10:56.44profalbertG5 ;)
10:56.48sylvanaar_workyeah
10:56.49profalbertG7 was the wireless G5
10:56.52sylvanaar_worki like it
10:56.57sylvanaar_workits perfect for me
10:57.09SlaymanI am cured of wireless peripherals on my gaming rig
10:57.11profalbertit also has no forward-button
10:57.24sylvanaar_workyes it does
10:57.27sztanpetsure it does
10:57.39profalbertoh then they only skipped it in the G7
10:57.40Slaymanhad a MX1000 once, the contacts oxidized to the point of no more loading
10:57.41nebula169second gen does
10:57.47profalbertah ic
10:57.48nebula169i have a first gen g5 with only the back button
10:58.25profalbertWell after the G7-charger broke, I got a replacement: MX1100R
10:59.03sylvanaar_worki unbricked my iPad yaya
10:59.10profalbertimho best wireless mouse, because it got rid of a lot of downsides of wireless mouses
10:59.20sylvanaar_workthough the last backup was 1 month ago
10:59.22sylvanaar_work=(
10:59.49sztanpetbtw mitch0 g500 has changable weight, better cord, better sensor and marginally better software where you can swap profiles when alt-tabbing into different programs
11:00.05sztanpetand the middle mouse button is worse
11:00.06sylvanaar_workand no I culdnt back it up before updating because it said my software had expired
11:00.15sztanpetso nothing that matters much really
11:00.33profalbertdamn side-scroll-middle-buttons
11:00.43profalbertI _never_ use it to side-scroll
11:00.47sztanpetyea
11:00.57Slaymansylvanaar: I would have empathy, but it's apple hardware, so I can't sorry
11:01.05sylvanaar_workmeh
11:01.17nebula169just syncing backs up the device, no?
11:01.31sylvanaar_work4.2b2 expired, so it wouldnt even start
11:01.41nebula169aaah
11:01.51sylvanaar_workyeah
11:01.58sylvanaar_worki ended up in DFU mode
11:02.24sylvanaar_workAND it wouldnt restore 3.3.2
11:02.43sylvanaar_workfortunately i had the 4.2b3 image to restore to
11:02.45profalbertso when your iOS-beta expires, you lose all data?
11:02.48Slaymansylvanaar_work: DFU? definitely f*ed up ?
11:03.03sylvanaar_worki never knew it would expire
11:03.09sylvanaar_worknow i know
11:03.42Slaymanwhy do you have beta iOS running in the frist place might I ask?
11:03.57sylvanaar_workum, multitasking
11:04.03sylvanaar_workplus im a developer
11:04.47sylvanaar_workso i was testing an app for 4.2
11:05.41sylvanaar_workits almost release time for 4.2 anyways
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11:05.53sylvanaar_workgonna be great btw
11:06.30sylvanaar_workdont think im going to put it on my iphone though
11:06.45sylvanaar_workiphone = jailbroken
11:07.47sylvanaar_worki really like the 4.1 jailbreak - its so easy
11:08.32sylvanaar_workthought about doing it to my iPad - then decided against it
11:09.13sylvanaar_worki do wish amazon payments let you pay with GC's
11:09.31sylvanaar_workso i could buy cydia apps with curse points
11:09.35Slaymanpaying with Ghostcrawlers, mmh interesting
11:10.07bluspacecowso
11:10.18bluspacecowhow many ghostcrawlers for a new laptop ?
11:10.30Slayman30ish I'd say
11:11.20syerenKnowing how well he gets paid for doing such a bad job makes me cry :(
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11:11.55SlaymanI don't think he's that much responsible for QA sleeping through the day
11:11.56sylvanaar_workGC?
11:12.07sylvanaar_workhow much does he get paid?
11:12.09nebula169i think he's done fine, people just hate change
11:13.30Repo10broker-imba: 03Rabbit * r20 imba.lua: Remove unused event handler.
11:14.31SlaymanI am always fond of their attitude towards the software they make, telling at last year's Blizzcon : Path of the Titans! and later telling: shit ain't happening, cuz it just didn't roll, now that takes Balls
11:16.15Repo10simpletankframes: 03Rabbit * r27 frames.lua: Use ADDON_LOADED instead of VARIABLES_LOADED.
11:17.19sylvanaar_workwoo, prat has finally finished packaging
11:18.05sylvanaar_worklol
11:18.07sylvanaar_workno it hasnt
11:19.37Repo10gnomish-interrupter: 03Rabbit * r33 GnomishInterrupter.lua: Use ADDON_LOADED.
11:20.40nebula169@describe gnomish-interrupter
11:20.42Reponebula169: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomish-interrupter/. GnomishInterrupter. Tells your party members when you interrupt stuff, or fail to do so.
11:32.15Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated for latest version! Yay!
11:33.59syerensylvanaar_work, is that because of how big it is?
11:34.01syerenSTING
11:34.06syerenstill uses Prat <3
11:34.38Ingelagaah why isn't my new updated version showing up on the page
11:34.56Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7584 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Fix up spells for 4.0.
11:35.12vhaarrIngela: because the packager is busy
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11:35.26Ingela:'(
11:35.26vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/packager/
11:35.28nebula169points at sylvanaar
11:35.34vhaarrright side, "Pending commits"
11:35.57Ingelapoor packager
11:36.16Ingelaand thanks vhaarr thought i did something wrong
11:36.17Ingela:)
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12:03.20sylvanaar_ipadShhhhhh........
12:03.30syerensylvanaar breaking the whole system.
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12:03.52StanzillaAGAIN
12:03.58sylvanaar_ipadI think I'm logged in 3 times
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12:04.01syerenWith the suitably named 'Prat'.
12:04.27sylvanaar_ipadOh is that still packaging ROFL
12:05.07nebula169bully
12:05.21sylvanaar_ipadit takes about 5min per revision. There about 600 revisions
12:06.23sylvanaar_ipadI hope the packager in multithreaded
12:06.49sylvanaar_ipadS/in/is/
12:07.04sylvanaar_ipadStupid auto caps
12:09.01sylvanaar_worknevcairiel: i changed my repo from svn to hg
12:09.10sylvanaar_worker
12:09.15sylvanaar_workvhaarr:
12:09.43vhaarryes, I know, why are you telling me?
12:09.58sylvanaar_worki dunno
12:10.07sylvanaar_workfelt like sharing
12:10.19syerenI subscribed to your Twitter on that info, sylvanaar.
12:10.29sylvanaar_worklol
12:11.59sylvanaar_workits almost like its stuck doing the same ones over and over
12:15.48Repo10lifepercent: 03Rabbit * r40 / (3 files in 1 directory): l10n support.
12:16.33sylvanaar_worki have like 2 subscribers on twitter syeren i would know
12:18.02SunTsusylvanaar_work: Maybe that would increase if you called them followers instead of subscribers.
12:18.14sylvanaar_worki doubt it
12:18.15syerenThat makes him like a religious figure though.
12:18.37sylvanaar_workall my tweets are automated anyways
12:18.56syerenI actually hope it's a mirror of your Prat revision change logs.
12:19.00syerenThat would be so fucking annoying.
12:19.04sylvanaar_workits not
12:19.07syeren:(
12:19.26sylvanaar_workits a burned feed of some other rss feeds
12:19.36sylvanaar_worklike the prat blog
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12:26.09sylvanaar_workmaybe we should ping someone to stop it
12:26.29Slayman~seen Antiarc
12:26.30purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 15h 18s) #wowace (3d 15h 18s) #curseforge (3d 15h 18s). Has said a total of 53 messages. Is idling for 1d 15h 35m 38s, last said: 'I've not done anything with it for a while yet'.
12:26.54sylvanaar_workKaelten: ping (sorry)
12:27.13SlaymanI have the suspicion that SexyCooldown is broken, though I'm not 100%
12:27.17vhaarrgod dammit sylv why did you change repo type at all?
12:27.40sylvanaar_workhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline
12:27.44sylvanaar_workclick
12:28.43vhaarryes yes
12:28.46nebula169surprised there isn't something like viewvc set up for svn
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12:28.49harlhm lol
12:29.07sylvanaar_workHg is the only one with a repo viewer - also I use Hg personally
12:29.32sylvanaar_worki didnt know it would rebuild all the zips
12:29.35vhaarryou should stop tagging so much, what's the point anyway
12:29.41vhaarrjust edit the file type to release
12:30.23sylvanaar_worki dont tag that much
12:30.42profalbert1that works for svn, I wouldn't want my release to be named like some git-hash
12:31.19nebula169anyone know off hand the event that fires when you click learn in the talent ui? PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE?
12:31.35profalbert1but, I think the packager should only pack 1 tag per push
12:31.52vhaarrprofalbert1: yeah that's a good point actually, but when that's said there's no reason to use anything but svn for an addon project anyway
12:31.53sylvanaar_worki think its rebuilding all the tags. I dont know what its doing.
12:31.56nebula169should atleast yield to projects that only have one, lol
12:32.05vhaarrprofalbert: the packager is bugged, it's not supposed to do this
12:32.14vhaarryes it is sylv
12:32.19vhaarrdoes the same both for hg and git
12:32.26sylvanaar_workit does?
12:32.39sylvanaar_workwell, there are plenty of git projects on the svn
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12:32.48sylvanaar_worker scratch the last bit
12:33.27sylvanaar_worki could go remove all my tags
12:33.40vhaarrsomeone tried, it didn't work
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12:34.32sylvanaar_workit should just package the latest tag - thats it. My other merc projects work that way
12:34.56vhaarryes but your other merc projects were probably merc from the beginning
12:35.02vhaarrthe bug is triggered by repo type change
12:35.04sylvanaar_workyep
12:35.09sylvanaar_workah
12:35.11vhaarrfrom svn to git or hg
12:35.13sylvanaar_worki didnt know
12:35.27vhaarrsomeone did it a few days ago as well
12:35.33vhaarrdon't remember what project it was but it was something big
12:35.59sylvanaar_workwell, apologies to everyone in line...but not much i can do now
12:36.34Slaymansylvanaar_work: just give out free iPad to those waiting, as ramification
12:36.50sylvanaar_worklol
12:37.11vhaarryou can vote on my awesome ticket
12:37.11vhaarrhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2542-l10n-status-substitution-keyword/
12:37.30sylvanaar_workyou know some projects did get through earlier. When it finishes all the tags it runs the other projects i think.
12:38.01nebula169i do love me some modal popups
12:38.04vhaarryeah unless it bugs out with not enough file handles left
12:38.11vhaarrwhich is quite likely
12:39.07mitch0should I convert my svn repo to git or hg?
12:39.16vhaarr:P
12:39.19mitch0;)
12:39.38sylvanaar_workif there were no bug it'd be a non-issue
12:39.58vhaarrI guess bigwigs going git is the next logical step here
12:40.04nebula169lol
12:40.04mitch0vhaarr: my thoghts on your ticket: if some deDE user doesn't like the english phrases, he can go and supply translations. the rest probably don't mind and won't contribute anyway
12:40.15nebula169good thing you don't tag very often :p
12:40.24sylvanaar_worki asked about it in channel earlier - noone mentioned the bug
12:40.31vhaarrmitch0: it's just a gentle reminder, I am guessing most people don't even know they can contribute translations so easily
12:40.52vhaarrfor myself, I plan on having a label at the top of my interface option panels like
12:41.10vhaarr"There are X translations missing for your locale, please visit the project page on wowace.com if you want to contribute. Thank you!"
12:41.51mitch0hack something into acelocale that counts the fallbacks
12:41.57nebula169couldn't you do something like that yourself, though, just iterating through the acelocale stuffs
12:42.04vhaarrwell I don't use acelocale for all my projects
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13:14.37Slaymanaha! SexyCooldown is not fit for 4.0.1 at least I figured it out by myself :D
13:15.14Rokiyoeh wot?
13:15.28Stanzillashould work if you dont try to use profiles
13:15.29Rokiyodidn't it just get updated?
13:15.37Stanzilla..and use the alpha version
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13:16.06Slaymanno profiles is not an option really can't default'em all
13:16.11Rokiyo... and don't use the raid debuffs module :P
13:16.54Slaymantoo many "don't"s for my pleasure :D
13:17.29Stanzilla^^
13:17.38Rokiyowell then, there's only 1 thing to do!
13:17.50Rokiyofind the problem, fix it, submit the fix as a suggestion in a ticket :P
13:17.52Stanzillayou can try the profiles, it's really fun how it duplicates all the bars, fucks up their names and you end up with 2984298374 bars with the same names :D
13:21.10SlaymanFunny was resetting the settings and the bar doing nothing whatsoever in default mode
13:22.01Stanzillamost of the stuff has no default value
13:22.14Stanzillathat's why some dropdowns and checkboxes are just blank :p
13:24.02Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 07master * 1.0-beta-7 Squire2.lua: [+4 commits]
13:24.03Repo777b926: Reworked logic to properly handle disabled autoUnshift and autoDismount.
13:24.04Repo1f4b88f: Enhanced /sq2test action output.
13:24.08Repoe1ad0e5: Have shamans cast Ghost Wolf when standing still if no mount is usable.
13:24.09Repo3d8eed8: Minor tweaks.
13:24.16Repo10squire2: 03Adirelle 041.0-beta-7 * cca6b4f /: [new tag] Tagging as "1.0-beta-7".
13:24.17arkanesI need to figure out how to make profiles work
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13:24.24arkanesI want class to be the default, but it's not working :\
13:24.41Repo10pitbull4_vengeancebar: 03nebula169 * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): keep the bar shown when using a tank spec
13:24.42Repoprovide a function in the LuaTexts ScriptEnv: VengeanceAP()
13:24.52lozonhey, hows everyone?
13:25.18arkanesanyone able to 100% confirm or deny that the tooltip when your vengeance is maxed doesn't show the AP amount?
13:25.30arkanesneed target dummies that hit back
13:25.38SlaymanStanzilla: you have to admit that is not the best practice regarding the defaults
13:25.56vhaarrarkanes: the tooltip does not show AP indeed
13:26.05arkanesvhaarr: grumble!
13:26.09Slaymanarkanes: go patchwerk with a healer
13:26.17arkanesvhaarr: if you're maxed and then your health goes up does it start showing again?
13:26.25nebula169never noticed that
13:26.28vhaarrah, haven't tested that
13:26.33mangegFor me it does show the AP, even when maxed. Tried it as late as yesterday
13:26.44arkanesmaybe they hotfixed it
13:26.51arkanesI guess I'll find someone to test with later
13:26.51lozonIs there anyway to get a unix timestamp in the WoW API? I'm curious how EPGP gets it for their logs...
13:26.56Slaymandon't know about maxed but it shows the ap
13:27.06nebula169could check their code :p
13:27.11vhaarrlozon: yes, time()
13:27.43lozontrue! im wondering, because the timestamps seem incorrect - they seem to be the number of seconds since the server's timezone on jan 1 1970, not GMT
13:27.48lozonvhaarr, ty
13:28.14vhaarrlozon: here's what I use for NRT, which EPGP probably copied verbatim; http://paste.wowace.com/2729/
13:28.22mangegnebula169: I see you adeed venchange to the ScriptEnv for lutatext, guess my addon is of no use then!
13:28.51nebula169mangeg: had no idea it existed :p
13:29.46lozonvhaarr, ty again, should be able to find their/my mistake now
13:32.16Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r166 / (11 files in 1 directory): - Creating Elephant addon as global var
13:32.18Repo- Linking locale to Elephant var at startup and using it in code as is
13:32.19Repo- Thus, simplifying a lot XML files
13:32.44lozonvhaarr, i think the issue is that when you call time([table]) it doesnt take into consideration the current timezone that the date your passing it is in
13:32.45SlaymanBlood Plague sounds a little like butt plug, strange ... rambling on
13:32.51Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r167 Elephant.toc: - Removing deleted file
13:32.53Repo- Adding Interface-Tooltip (wooops!)
13:33.18vhaarrlozon: the issue is only shown around midnight, I chose to ignore it
13:33.19lozonso any passed time, like your function, would need to modify it by the timezone offset
13:34.10lozoni find it weird that it takes DST flag, but you cant pass in a different timezone
13:34.30lozonoh well, now that i know the issue, should be fine because the timestamps will always be true to the server's timezone
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13:38.10Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela 04v1.4 * r27 : Tagging as v1.4
13:38.53Slaymananyone knows if "Runic Empowerment" shows up in Combatlog?
13:40.09Repo10autoprofity: 03Grayal * r31 / (7 files in 3 directories): lib rule created
13:41.16lozonWhy do you ask Slayman ?
13:41.57lozonoh, nvm, thats not a buff
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13:41.59nebula169i'm at 100% vengeance and it still shows the ap
13:43.39vhaarrsylvanaar_work: zomg, it's done
13:45.21lozon?
13:45.28StanzillaSlayman: of course it isnt but antiarc has no time for that kind of stuff atm :p
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13:47.40nevcairielman the packager is so broken, hah
13:48.08AckisI thought it was working right now?
13:48.21nevcairielits not dead, but its broken in general
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13:48.44nevcairielchanging repository type will essentially destroy your project :D
13:49.12SunTsuI call that service, so you don't have to destroy it yourself
13:49.15Repo10pitbull4_vengeancebar: 03nebula169 * r4 VengeanceBar.lua: also add VengeanceAPMax()
13:49.24sbubut we still have chatter, right? :p
13:49.47nebula169packager does pretty well overall, its neat
13:49.49Ackisnevcairiel: did you fix anything when you cloned it?
13:50.07nevcairielthe packager will just go mad and package tags at random, pretty much
13:50.08jnwhitehShefki: It seems that ConvertIntoUnitFrame() is calling RegisterForClicks() at some point after the frame has been registered for click-casting.
13:50.09nevcairielAckis: not yet
13:50.39jnwhitehShefki: Since AnyUp/AnyDown is set from within Clique, this ends up overwriting the AnyDown setting that users set for Clique.
13:50.45nevcairielSome of the issues are impossible to fix without seeing the messed up database its running against
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14:08.03Repo10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r59 / (2 files in 1 directory): v0.93
14:08.04Repo+ final fixes to tooltip.
14:08.14Repo10head-count-2: 03kagaro 07master * f5f4b5d / (4 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
14:08.15Repof5f4b5d: More cleanup and boss detector work.
14:08.17Repoae7fbe5: Removed unused function
14:08.17Repo566f247: fixed a comparison in event check
14:08.19Repo2f4022e: Removed extra print
14:08.50Repo10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw 04v0.93 * r60 : Tagging as v0.93.
14:08.50Repo* This should fixes the random tooltip errors people are getting (and the tooltip text).
14:08.52Repo* Will keep checking for bugs and possible new features.
14:11.01Caleb|!api SPELL_ENERGIZE
14:11.01lua_botCould not find a match for 'SPELL_ENERGIZE'.
14:12.16SunTsu@describe tankmastery
14:12.17RepoSunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tankmastery/. TankMastery. Toolset for tanks, providing information on taunts and other valuable information.
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14:13.00Shefkijnwhiteh: Bahh.
14:13.05Shefkijnwhiteh: THat creates a problem.
14:13.20jnwhitehnot a big oe =)
14:13.33ShefkiIf I do it in a different order it creates a stack overflow.
14:13.40ShefkiSo yes a big one.
14:13.48jnwhitehO.o
14:13.52jnwhiteh_how_?
14:14.20ShefkiIt's called from InitialConfigFunction method on the GroupHeader.
14:14.46ShefkiWhich if out of combat sets some attributes.
14:14.56ShefkiIf the frame is fresh...
14:15.13ShefkiThen the secure header hasn't set it up completely and doesn't know about it yet.
14:15.30ShefkiThe attribute chahnges trigrs and update and causes it to just keep recreating the frame over and over.
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14:17.44ShefkiActually I take that back it's not the attribute changes that triggers the infinite loop.
14:17.50ShefkiIt's the EnableMouse(false) call
14:17.56ShefkiLet me try something.
14:19.24harldamn. why does mousing over myself or other party members have my fps drop from like 85 down to about 20 now..
14:19.24jnwhitehyeah I don't do anything with EnableMouse
14:19.30harlsomething new's wrong every day
14:19.37Shefkijnwhiteh: Yeah but I do for people that want clickthrough frames.
14:19.39evlAnyone figured out a workaround for not being able to inspect people?
14:20.15jnwhitehShefki: no, I understand that
14:20.26vhaarrevl: there's no workaround, you can't prevent the bug
14:20.36evlgogo QA
14:20.37Shefkijnwhiteh: I think I can solve this.
14:20.39vhaarryou can do some things to limit how often it happens, but it will still happen
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14:21.20ShefkiI'll just movoe the CallMethod inside the check for click_through frames.
14:21.31ShefkiIf it isn't then I'll do the CallMethod before I do Clique.
14:21.39ShefkiIf it is then I'll do it after I disable the mouse.
14:21.53harloh well, seems to be tomtomping's targeting part
14:23.46Shefkijnwhiteh: Really they need to set SecureGroupHeader's _ignore attribute before calling initialConfigFunction so that nothing will trigger an update and then unset it after it's done.
14:23.58jnwhitehyeah, that sounds reasonable.
14:23.59ShefkiThat would prevent this from happening.
14:24.44ShefkiEither that or finish setting up the frame enough that the next Update call would know about it and not make it again.
14:26.19Shefkijnwhiteh: This is for AnyUp support?
14:26.35jnwhitehAnyDown, yes
14:26.46Shefkierr ok yeah.
14:28.56Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta15-5-g5991f8b GroupHeader.lua: [+1 commit] Fix support for Clique's AnyDown support.
14:29.07Shefkijnwhiteh: Try the alpha that produces.
14:31.17Shefkijnwhiteh: Any idea what they did to break all the RestrisctedEnvironments on beta this time?
14:31.24mitch0jnwhiteh: would you mind adding a .staticIcon field to your crazyarrow field?
14:31.38nevcairielShefki: its a pretty simple oversight
14:31.39mitch0s/field.$/feed?/
14:31.44jnwhitehShefki: yes, but its a bug and will be fixed
14:32.11Shefkinevcairiel: I figured as much was just curious what it was.
14:32.22jnwhitehShefki: doesn't work still
14:32.44Shefkijnwhiteh: I can't imagine why I'm doing all the click registration before I call you.
14:32.44jnwhitehoh
14:32.45jnwhitehi'm on gc
14:32.50jnwhitehi can re-update
14:32.52jnwhitehcc didn't have it.
14:32.56ShefkiAhh
14:32.57nevcairielThe function that generates the environment for the headers, well, it doesnt generate anymore :)
14:33.03Shefkijnwhiteh: It probably just hadn't shown yet.
14:33.13jnwhitehyeah its still not grabbing it.
14:33.28jnwhitehmitch0: I'll look at it, yes.
14:33.28Repo10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren * r34 GridStatusPriestAoe.lua:
14:33.29Repo- Fixed "check only first groups" option not detecting party transitions
14:33.47ShefkiYeah packager takes a while for us becauese of the external repos we pull libs from.
14:33.51jnwhitehI want a fairly simple LDB addon that displays the last X privmsgs and Y party messages and Z guild messages
14:33.55jnwhitehso I dont miss things when I'm reloading.
14:34.25Repo10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren 04v0.95 * r35 : Tagging as v0.95
14:34.52mitch0jnwhiteh: thanks. drop me a note if/when/how you did it, then I'll add support for it in Bazooka
14:35.17sylvanaarjnwhiteh: you can always take the code I added to prat that adds scrollback to the chatframes.
14:35.33sylvanaarjnwhiteh: it'd have to be depratified
14:35.56jnwhitehsylvanaar: yeah, I was thinking something even simpler tho, just a circular buffer on those channels, shown in a tootlip
14:36.03jnwhitehmikma had an addon that did this, I should just look at that again
14:36.03sylvanaaroh i see
14:36.15jnwhitehsometimes i miss stuff even when i'm not reloading =)
14:36.24sylvanaarprat's scrollback is pretty simple code
14:36.35sylvanaaryeah, i miss stuff too
14:37.18jnwhitehhrm
14:37.21sylvanaarjnwhiteh: http://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/file/e243d191c75b/modules/Scrollback.lua
14:37.24jnwhitehCC still isnt' grabbin git, even tho the file is there.
14:37.29jnwhitehor it probably needs to be approved?
14:37.30jnwhitehdunno
14:37.52jnwhitehnope, there we go =)
14:37.52Shefkihttp://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/files/8740-v4-0-0-beta15-5-g5991f8b/
14:38.41jnwhitehShefki: doesn't seem to work
14:38.56ShefkiUgh.
14:39.01jnwhitehlemme get a stack trace
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14:40.49sylvanaarmaybe if i delete the majority of the tags from my .hgtags file the packager wont take 2 hours to package prat
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14:41.06jnwhitehShefki: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/09144a87df1b3542fc9622ecd4453a39.png
14:41.22Shefkijnwhiteh: Ahh I see I fixed it for groups not singletons.
14:41.27jnwhitehI hooksecurefunc the RegisterForClicks function after I set
14:41.38Shefkijnwhiteh: A different change altered the call order for singletons.
14:41.44jnwhitehah okay
14:43.37nevcairielsylvanaar: someone else tried that before, it still "knew" about those tags
14:43.41nevcairielit with Git, but still
14:43.47nevcairielit was*
14:44.08jnwhitehcan't you just remote delete the tags?
14:44.14sylvanaarnevcairiel: worth a shot or no?
14:44.17nevcairielsure
14:44.31nevcairieljust sayin', the packager is a mess when you change repo type
14:44.55sylvanaaryeah
14:45.02sylvanaarim loving the web viewer though
14:45.04sylvanaarhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/
14:45.06sylvanaarso awesome
14:45.24nevcairielapparently thats just because hg doesnt have any sane transport other then web :D
14:45.55sylvanaarit uses compressed transfers
14:46.01sylvanaarits quite fast
14:46.22Fiskerholy shit Megalon
14:46.50Shefkijnwhiteh: Umm it's working here and I just walked through the code.
14:47.09ShefkiThere's no way we're registered the frame with you before ConverIntoUnitFrame is called.
14:47.10jnwhitehreload =)
14:47.26jnwhitehlet me check CC once more
14:47.29jnwhitehbut I checked the version number
14:48.02ShefkiAhh ok yeah stopped working after I reloaded.
14:48.04ShefkiHmm.
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14:48.20jnwhitehchanging the option after loading it obviously works
14:48.22kagarojnwhiteh:  where is tomtom's new git repo located
14:48.25jnwhitehebcause pitbull doesn't re-set
14:48.32jnwhitehkagaro: its listed on curseforge
14:48.36kagarok
14:49.40Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r677 .hgtags: delete most of Prat's tags
14:50.32sylvanaarit should start at 3.3.36
14:50.36sylvanaarit should start at 3.3.26
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14:52.05nevcairieltoo bad it doesnt know that
14:52.11sylvanaarlol
14:52.11nevcairielstill packages your Beta X tags
14:52.21sylvanaaryeah, but thats a big improvement
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14:53.35sylvanaarwhere does it get that info i wonder
14:53.45Shefkijnwhiteh: Ok fixed.
14:53.47sylvanaarlet see if the old SVN is still accessable
14:54.01nevcairielshould be locked down
14:54.27ShefkiForgot that we ended up with two places where we register for singletons so we can reigster if someone turns a click-through frame into a clickable frame.
14:54.51jnwhitehShefki: okay, thanks.
14:55.10sylvanaarnevcairiel: yeah, auth failed
14:56.12Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta15-6-g89215ff UnitFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Fix Clique support for AnyDown for Singletons too.
14:57.07Shefkijnwhiteh: I'll take a new release when I get home from work if I can manage to track someone down to look into another bug and I either fix it or can't replicate it.
14:57.14Shefkis/take/tag/
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14:57.39jnwhitehokay
14:57.39jnwhitehnp!
14:57.44jnwhitehappreciate it
14:57.57jnwhitehI was able to fix some things, this being one of them
14:59.07Fiskerjnwhiteh
14:59.12jnwhitehFisker:
14:59.49MegalonFisker
14:59.55Megalonit will be boxer vs nada time
15:00.26MegalonNorth Korea already shot at the borders
15:00.35Megalonbecause they can't handle the awesomeness that will occur
15:01.21evlReally?
15:01.21evlCroatoan's Hammer of Wrath hits Banditt for 31574 Holy.(7457 Overkill) (Critical)
15:01.42evlIt's been a while since I was instagibbed by a paladin
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15:03.36Fiskerresilience man
15:03.52Fiskerthink he'd have to be raid buffed for that damage though
15:04.53quiescensisn't hammer of wrath the thingy that requires someone to be low on hp anyway
15:05.33quiescensi don't think it counts as being instagibbed if it is
15:05.38nevcairielwell from that, he still had like 24k hp
15:06.03Fiskerquiescens now with AW
15:06.17Fiskernot*
15:06.43evlnevcairiel: I was at 100%
15:06.53nevcairiel100% is 24k hp for you?
15:06.57nevcairielyou suck, then!
15:07.25evl100% is 31.4k hp
15:08.19Flowycan I set parrent that is not AceGUI to AceGUI widget?
15:08.57Fiskerbtw Megalon
15:09.03Fiskerthat rush in the nada game was fucking sick btw
15:09.24Fiskerif i had pants on i would've made a mess in them
15:09.51Megalonindeed
15:10.44Flowyhow to set AceGUI widget to be child of non AceGUI frame?
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15:13.56evlHow do you set the raid progression with the new lockout system? we have  mix of guys but we can't get in even if everyone is 11/12
15:14.58nevcairielthe leader would define the lowest limit, when the leader is 11/12, everyone that has not killed the LK would get in
15:15.03nevcairielunless you mix heroic in the deal
15:15.47evlwe ahve mixed heroic
15:16.09nevcairielAs its supposed to work, when you set it to normal, the heroic id does not affect things at all
15:16.23nevcairielBut i think its somewhat bugged, if people have different heroic ids, they can't raid together anymore
15:16.41ShadniXthat is intended
15:16.50nevcairielno its not
15:16.50ShadniXi think
15:16.56nevcairielnot according to the announcement, anyway
15:17.00nevcairielit was pretty clear on that
15:17.07evlWorked when I invited
15:17.10evlsince I was 11/12
15:17.11nevcairielHeroic locks you to an Id
15:17.22nevcairielbut that id only affects other heroic encounters
15:17.36nevcairielevl: yeah the leader would have to have the highest locks for it to work for everyone
15:17.40NivI thought they clarified that, if you had toggled an ID to a heroic mode (say lootship), then you were saved to a real ID after that
15:17.44ShadniXwasn't it something like "on normal mode, your progress is saved to you character, and on heroic mode, it is saved to id pretty mich like it was bevor 4.0"?
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15:18.07nevcairielShadniX: indeed, so once you switch back to normal mode, the heroic id isnt important anymore
15:18.07Nivso if you did heroic gunship, you would be doing normals only with that group, or other unsaved players
15:18.15Nivnevcairiel: that's not my understanding
15:18.31ShadniXnevcairiel: ah, ok, missed the "switch back part" here in the chat
15:18.52ShadniXnevcairiel: yes - in that point, i'll agree with you
15:18.54Nivbut who knows ;)
15:19.00Nivjust do all heroics, and it doesn't matter!
15:19.05nevcairielThats how i read the announcements
15:19.10nevcairieldo all heroics, and its like in 3.3
15:19.26nevcairielbut even when you have an heroic id, you can still use the flexible lockouts on normal
15:19.31nevcairieldiggs for the post
15:19.34evlReally. Fucking Annoying
15:19.39evlthe message should read WHO is locked out
15:19.40evland why
15:19.46evlright now it's just a complete enigma
15:19.50evlglad this was only a 10 man
15:20.28ShadniXyeah, i think, they brought an example for that an blizzcon "imagine, you are in a heroic raid, kill 4/12, and you don't have time the next day, when the rest of the raid clears the instance. In that case, you can now do the last 8 bosses on normal in an other raid" - or something like that
15:20.35Flowyok ... now something to topic ... is it possible to make interface options with AceGUI?
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15:21.14nevcairielBut let's say you are a member of a Heroic raid in Icecrown Citadel, and after killing Lord Marrowgar on Heroic you have Internet connection issues that prevent you from raiding for two nights. During those two nights, the rest of the raid kills everything. Without the Flexible Raid Lock system, you would be done with raiding Icecrown Citadel for the week. Ouch. With the Flexible Raid Lock system, you can join someone else's raid as long as
15:21.15nevcairiel<PROTECTED>
15:21.16nevcairielfound it ^
15:21.36ShadniXyeah, that's the one i meant
15:22.01AckisParnic|Work: do you have gears of war 2?
15:22.06Parnic|Workyes
15:22.18Ackisare you level 100?
15:22.27Parnic|Worki don't play much online
15:22.30Parnic|Workhardly at all
15:22.39Ackis31x xp event this weekend
15:22.45Ackistakes 4-5 hours to get to level 100
15:22.49Parnic|Workheh
15:23.04Parnic|Workis it an achievement?
15:23.08Ackisyeah
15:23.19Ackisone of the map packs (400 points for all map packs) has it
15:23.33Parnic|Workoh. meh.
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15:27.13Fiskeryay Megalon
15:27.16Fiskeridra got pwnt
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15:31.05Megalonye
15:31.13Megalonbut zvz is now officially considered awesome
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15:41.56Fiskeryeah it was awright Megalon
15:41.59Fiskerthe first game anyway
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15:45.33sztanpethttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/134488/tastetosis.jpg sc2 is their drug right
15:45.50peter_panhey. Dump question. How to I make a statusbar grow from right to left (instead of left to right)?
15:46.29sztanpetin which addon, you are not the one coding the statusbar im guessing
15:48.35peter_panNo I'm jiggling with my own addon. there is a statusbar:SetOrientation, but that's only horizontal vs vertical :(
15:54.25Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2926 LootTableModules/Cataclysm/cataclysm.lua: missing itemID
15:55.40Megalonsztanpet: stimpacks are
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15:58.29Bapspeter_pan: the way grid fakes that is to draw a colored background and then set the statusbar to be on top and look like the old background
15:58.41Bapsand then invert the math to make it grow the other way
16:00.39peter_pankk thx
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16:01.10Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r169 Elephant.xml: new title style
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16:17.58pb_ee1sylvanaar: ping (quick question)
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16:27.27Repo10wgclean (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r14 WGClean.lua:
16:27.28RepoAdded synced trust list. Added list of trusted players to kick message for appeal purposes.
16:27.50Parnic|Work@describe wgclean
16:27.51RepoParnic|Work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wgclean/. WGClean. Clean your raid of scrubs
16:29.34Repo10wgclean (experimental): 03stolenlegacy 04beta-2 * r15 : beta tag.
16:29.42Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Reactivating Prat support (thanks Sylvanaar)
16:29.43Repo- Doing it better
16:30.23Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r171 Structure.lua: Now refreshing events after a reset
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16:46.56Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r112 GDKPd.lua: Prepping for release 1.1.0
16:47.26Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 041.1.0 * r113 : release tag of the most recent changes.
16:51.30Hati:o ptr
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16:54.45Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r172 Interface.lua: inverting tooltip title and desc colors
16:56.00Ackisfable 3 is so buggy :(
16:56.09Parnic|Workand sluggish
16:56.26Parnic|Worki feel like it takes a bit for my "do this" action to actually take effect
16:56.31Ackiswhen I have a download complete, it locks up for like 2 seconds lol
16:56.37Ackisand I get a lot of graphical lag
16:59.10Ackisat least it's fun
16:59.14Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r173 / (3 files in 2 directories):
16:59.15Repo- User is now able to activate/deactivate Prat-related options even if Prat is not loaded.
16:59.19Ackisnot sure if I"ll get into a GoW2 boosting session this weekend or not
16:59.29Repo- Enhancing Prat options tooltips
16:59.30Repo- Updating assocated locales
16:59.31Parnic|Worki saw that you've been knocked out like 17 times
16:59.36Parnic|Workguess you're not getting that achievement :P
17:01.04Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r174 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: - Updating zhTW locale as requested by users
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17:06.51kagarohrmm so a bunch of fixes on beta still havent made it to the ptr
17:07.59ccKepI'd be happy if a few fixes would actually make it to live
17:08.17kagarothey are talking about alot of tank chanegs isnt on ptr yet
17:08.36kagaroive been waiting for RS change, its active on beta but not on ptr yet
17:08.40ccKeplauncer play button sound, in game addon sounds, ghost mount speed when dead (this one really is ridiculous, because that was month ago on the beta...)
17:08.54Repo10wgclean (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r16 WGClean.lua: Bug fixes for beta-2.
17:09.00kagarodid you get teh auto rez in graveyard in ICC yet?
17:09.14ccKepnot consistently
17:09.17Repo10wgclean (experimental): 03stolenlegacy 04beta-2a * r17 : tagging
17:09.29kagaroi had atleast 3 people die that way
17:10.24Ackis@describe wgclean
17:10.25RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wgclean/. WGClean. Clean your raid of scrubs
17:11.18kagarorofl rebirth is back to 10 mins
17:12.36Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r175 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Moving options in separate file
17:12.37Repo- Doing setup of options in initialization, still
17:12.54arkanes_kagaro: jumping off the cliff to fly back withotu realizing they weren't a ghost?
17:13.08arkanes_kagaro: I'd have gone out that way if it weren't for my pallychute
17:13.13kagaroya
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17:19.35arkanes_kagaro: the wierd thing about that gy rez bug is that after I had it, I was able to zone back into ICC while the encounter was still in progress
17:20.00kagaronice
17:20.13kagaroweird but nice
17:20.35arkanes_didn't help, putri whacked me with an ooze as soon as I zoned :P
17:20.45kagarohaha
17:21.01kagaroneed to do a tiger mount run today .. god i hate the drop rate
17:21.15arkanes_I've been killing that bastard off and on since vanilla
17:21.23arkanes_and I've never seen it or the raptor drop
17:22.06kagaroi saw a raptor drop a month ago but i dont want one of those
17:22.14SunTsuarkanes_: it's luck, though, I've seen the raptor drop many times, unless the tiger which did't drop ever
17:22.42SunTsuthe tiger is the only mount I wanted since I lay my eyes on it
17:22.57arkanes_the tiger is awesome
17:23.05arkanes_my favorite is frostwyrms, though
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17:23.58SunTsuarkanes_: yeah, there are more impressive mounts, but this is the most beautiful one for me
17:24.21arkanes_actually i have to say the one where I immediately said "I must have this" is the chicken
17:24.26SunTsuI really dig the color combination
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17:24.45arkanes_but I can't bring myself to drop a grand on the chicken :(
17:25.30Repo10whistle: 03Maat * r18 / (3 files in 2 directories): add deDE, make frFR not the default localization
17:25.49Repo10wgclean (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r18 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fixed lib dependencies.
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17:27.52Repo10gridstatuschainbest: 03slaren * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Update for 4.0. Still needs more testing.
17:28.23Ackisthe chicken mount is $1000?
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17:33.24arkanes_well I just checked again on ebay and it looks like $300 is the going rate now
17:33.34arkanes_it was 800-1000 when I checked after it went live
17:33.48arkanes_$300 I can almost justify....
17:34.21SunTsuI'd never invest more than 10 bucks into an in-game mount
17:34.29arkanes_well I know it seems ridiculous
17:34.30arkanes_and it is
17:34.39arkanes_but I could get it instead of, say, the netbook I was going to ghet
17:35.10Hati4.0.3 should be world changes or ?
17:35.16SunTsuI'd rather have that netbook, though
17:38.13sylvanaargod my repo is fucked
17:39.25Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r678 .hgtags: Added tag 3.4.8 for changeset 1d179f150a17
17:39.37Axodiousyou there Mirrormn?
17:39.37sylvanaareach commit releases an older version
17:39.49sylvanaarim going to have to delete all the tags
17:41.35Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r679 .hgtags: delete all tags but the last. same fix i used for screwed up clones
17:43.26RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka_toast/. Bazooka_ShowUpdates. Ternobeus (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
17:43.31RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dbquest/. DBQuest. thelibrarian (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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17:47.49Repo10gridstatusdistance: 03slaren * r19 GridStatusDistance.lua: - Fixed problem with "check first groups only" option
17:47.51sylvanaarmaybe i should just delete my repo
17:48.23Repo10gridstatusdistance: 03slaren 041.0c * r20 : Tagging as 1.0c
17:48.56Adirelle2sylvanaar, the packager is still recreate every tags, but fails to upload some of them ?
17:49.12sylvanaari deleted all my tags just now
17:49.48sylvanaarbut it still finds some from somewhere
17:50.51nevcairielyeah its wicked mad
17:51.05nevcairieli should really sit down and try to figure out why its doing that just from reading code
17:51.11nevcairieli wish i had access to the whole thign =/
17:51.42Axodioushey nevcairiel, Kaelten or Mikk could you look at http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/tickets/12-need-a-way-to-escape-out-of-text-boxes/ is this a known problem?
17:51.50Axodious(it's related to ace3
17:51.52Axodious)
17:53.09nevcairielworks fine in my edit boxes
17:53.30Axodiouscould you check using that addon? maybe it's something messed up in my client
17:53.56Mikkmaybe. if you point us at a zip
17:54.03SunTsuShefki: Is there a way to see Shadow Infusion on your ghoul with pb4? If so, how?
17:54.26Axodioushttp://static.wowace.com/content/files/470/517/WeakAuras-r35.zip
17:55.18Axodioususe /wa to get into the config, goto new on the left then texture on the right. in the new menu go to triggers and under Main Trigger the edit boxes there are the ones not working for me
17:55.33sylvanaarlol look http://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/tags
17:55.44sylvanaarthey do exist somehow
17:55.52nevcairielhg is weird
17:56.00nevcairieli mean, the whole tags in a text file thing
17:56.11nevcairielthe tags exist in an older revision now!
17:57.20Kaeltenhttp://static.neatorama.com/images/2010-10/diy-vasectomy-magnet-set.jpg
17:57.54nevcairiellol
17:58.58sylvanaarthis has to fix it
17:59.14Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r690 .hgtags: Removed tag Beta 1  (Message trimmed by 6 lines)
17:59.15RepoRemoved tag Beta 2
17:59.16RepoRemoved tag Beta 3
17:59.17RepoRemoved tag Beta 4
17:59.18RepoRemoved tag Beta 5
17:59.41MikkAxodious: you're absolutely right... but i think the culprit is the Name editbox on the left
17:59.52Mikkbecause when i hit "Okay" the focus jumps there
17:59.56nevcairielyou know whats stopping me from looking at the packager code right now .. its in a hg repo, and i don't have hg installed, its making my lazyness win <.<
17:59.57sylvanaarhttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/tags ok, now it cant screw anything up
18:00.17Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r176 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Starting cleaning up the adddon
18:00.18Repo- Adding possibility to log loot method changes in party and raid (disabled by default)
18:00.19Repo- Master looter changes logging should be a little bit better; adding a message if name of master looter cannot be determined at that time (due to login for example)
18:00.20Repo- Adding some locales for that
18:00.29quiescenslazyness solves all problems
18:00.35sylvanaarits ok - the same fix probably works for git
18:00.37Axodiousi'll add that to the ticket then, thanks Mikk.. btw Mirrormn (author) will still see it has a new comment even though it's declined yes?
18:00.43Mikkyes
18:00.46nevcairielthats not much of a fix
18:00.52nevcairielthats a work around
18:00.55pb_ee1sylvanaar: I'll go on message.ORG and others. Thanks
18:01.00sylvanaarnevcairiel: i meant the fix you would make
18:01.08sylvanaarpb_ee1: great
18:01.16nevcairieloh
18:02.27nevcairielnow its stuck
18:02.45nevcairielah there it goes
18:02.48nevcairielit created one alpha zip
18:02.56nevcairielno tags
18:03.04nevcairiel.. so far
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18:05.16nevcairiellesson for the future, when converting between repository types, screw the tags, don't convert them
18:06.18sylvanaaryep
18:06.25sylvanaarsame for clones
18:06.35sylvanaardelete all old tags
18:06.37nevcairielclones get the tags cloned automagically though
18:07.00sylvanaarthere has got to be a "last tag" stored somewhere
18:07.17nevcairielscrew this, i'll install hg and download my cloen of the packager
18:07.34sylvanaari use tortoisehg, its really nice
18:07.40Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7585 Blackwing (5 files in 1 directory):
18:07.41RepoAtramedes - fix air phase bar, add a second searing flame timer see which is more accurate
18:07.43RepoChimaeron - optionHeaders fix
18:07.44RepoMaloriak - add local message and whisper for Consuming Flames, add phase switch timers
18:07.45RepoNefarian - initial commit
18:08.15nevcairielI hope it knows about TSVN and shares overlay icons
18:08.22sylvanaarit does
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18:11.09nevcairielmeh, it doesn't even show the db models
18:13.56nevcairielreturn File.query.join(File.repository).join(RepositoryModel.project).join(Project.game).filter(File.repository_info == repository_info.decode('utf-8')).filter(RepositoryModel.name == self.fork_name.decode('utf-8').lower()).filter(Project.slug == self.project_name.decode('utf-8').lower()).filter(Game.stage_name.ilike(self.game_stage_name.decode('utf-8'))).count() == 0
18:14.04nevcairielthats what it uses to figure out of a tag is "new"
18:14.18nevcairiellong liens are long :/
18:14.27Megalonlooks quite intuitive
18:14.34Megaloni would have made the same
18:15.25quiescensindeed
18:17.09nevcairielOne thing i see directly, it will repackage all tags when you switch repository type
18:17.12nevcairielWhy, i don't know
18:18.11nevcairielI would need to see the contents of the File DB to see why that query doesn't work for clones or after repo type change =/
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18:27.41sylvanaar_worki think it keeps track of what tags it has built
18:28.07sylvanaar_workin a db maybe
18:28.29sylvanaar_workkeyed off the repository, or myabe just in the repository directory
18:28.58sylvanaar_workthe biggest hint though is that clones have the same bug as repo migration
18:30.51sylvanaar_workits a file in the repository directory it looks like
18:32.48sylvanaar_workit seems like it doesnt create the file again if you clone or move
18:32.58sylvanaar_workjust by observation
18:34.28sylvanaar_workit probably has all the tags, and only sets a tag as built when its new
18:34.50sylvanaar_workand doesnt set them as built if they are rebuilt
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18:38.01sylvanaar_workwhat is the link to the packager
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18:40.43durcynugh, yet another '-2' project, i thought there was a policy against 'continued' and 'fan update' nonsense
18:41.28Megalonfan updates durcyn
18:41.39durcynget it off :(
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18:44.12pompysylvanaar_work: www.wowace.com/packager
18:44.15pompy?
18:44.31sylvanaar_workno
18:44.33sylvanaar_workthe source
18:45.04sylvanaar_workah
18:45.09sylvanaar_workhttp://hg.curseforge.net/www/curseforge-packager/mainline
18:46.30nevcairielthe query i posted up there checks if a tag is "new"
18:46.38nevcairielit querys the filet able, and checks if it already exists
18:46.42nevcairielsomehow, that doesnt work for clones
18:46.43sylvanaar_workyep
18:47.02sylvanaar_worki can understand why
18:48.39nevcairielyou know, for figuring out stuff like this just from code, a strong typed language is much more fun :p
18:48.53sylvanaar_worki suppose
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18:49.23nevcairielbut why would it not work for clones?
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18:49.28nevcairielthe query looks pretty straight forward
18:50.45nevcairielrepackaging all old tags once is one thing that the query allows
18:50.47nevcairielbut not constantly
18:55.02nevcairielI figure it must be something weird in the database, the file upload not storing the proper repository_info for the file, and thus the packager not "seeing" the old file, or something
18:58.24sylvanaar_workself.packager.add_tag_zip is that doing what its supposed to
18:59.52sylvanaar_workthe get post date for tag
19:02.45nevcairieli havent seen the date being used anywhere
19:03.17sylvanaar_worksee get_post_date
19:03.34nevcairielyeah it just redirects into the repository specific modules
19:05.25nevcairielwhich fall back on datetime.utcnow() if the parsing fails
19:05.39nevcairielAnyhow, whats the point in chasing this right now? :d
19:05.50sylvanaar_worki thought thats what you were doing
19:06.00sylvanaar_workits friday, and im just killing time at work
19:06.05nevcairielheh
19:06.22nevcairielI dont think that timestamp has any importance
19:06.29nevcairielbut add_tag_zip isnt that full with logic
19:06.33nevcairielit just puts it in a table
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19:08.35nevcairielIts just putting all those values in form values and submits them, hm
19:09.24Kaeltennevcairiel: sounds like you're having fun
19:10.27nevcairielyou should write more comments!
19:10.35Kaeltenlol
19:10.38sylvanaar_worklol
19:10.43sylvanaar_work1
19:10.49sylvanaar_workwould be a start
19:10.52sylvanaar_worklol
19:10.53Kaeltenalso the tag detection isn't working in some aspects on non branches
19:11.09sylvanaar_worki swear its the same as with clones
19:11.12arkanes_I love commit messages like "dammit"
19:11.19sylvanaar_workyou have to delete all the old tags
19:11.29sylvanaar_workbecause it just keeps rebuilding them
19:11.34Kaeltenya
19:11.48Kaeltenthere's several issues with tag detection
19:11.51Repo10broker_whoroll: 03profalbert 07master * v1.1.0-3-g3f9eb9e / (16 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
19:11.52Repo3f9eb9e: add localescraper
19:11.53Repo37576b0: reference lookup-tables
19:11.54Repo1fadcb7: prepare localization
19:11.57sylvanaar_workbut, lovin my new repo browser
19:12.04nevcairielthats why i'm reading the code <.<
19:12.12nevcairielseeing if i spot something obvious
19:12.23Kaeltenalso there's somewhere in there where its not closing files properly
19:12.49nevcairieldid you determine its the packager?
19:12.53sylvanaar_workwhere besides .hgtags does mercurial store tags
19:12.55Kaeltenit has to be
19:13.07nevcairielarent the repos on the same server?
19:13.08Kaeltensylvanaar_work: only place
19:13.14Kaeltennevcairiel: yes
19:13.19nevcairielmaybe its svnserve again!
19:13.20nevcairiel:)
19:13.27Kaeltensvnserve also is having issues
19:13.33KaeltenI periodically issue killall
19:13.49Kaeltenbut a restart of the packager fixes itself
19:13.59Kaeltenalso the repository_manager is having issues with svnlook hanging open
19:14.13nevcairielyou need a new code/server monkey to help you
19:14.37Kaeltenworking on it
19:14.39Kaelten:)
19:14.50Megalonhire me
19:14.55Megalonthen you only need code/server!
19:14.57Megalonderp
19:15.02Kaeltenlol
19:15.25Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r120 .hgtags: delete all tags besides the most current
19:15.56arkanes_Kaelten: what OS are you running your servers on?
19:16.00Kaeltenlinux
19:16.17sylvanaar_workubuntu still?
19:16.26Kaeltenyes
19:16.34nevcairielat least the new LTS now, i guess
19:16.37Kaeltenyes
19:16.39Kaelten:)
19:16.51durcynshould use gentoo, then you can blame it all on dumb compile options
19:16.58Kaeltenlol
19:17.07sylvanaar_worklol gentoo
19:17.10Kaeltenif I switched at all I'd be switching to RHEL
19:17.13arkanes_Kaelten: the current packager just runs as a cron job?
19:17.21Kaeltenarkanes_: no, it's long lived
19:17.23nevcairielarkanes_: its a daemon, basically
19:17.28profalbertgentoo is nice for some experiments
19:17.33nevcairielhttp://hg.curseforge.net/www/curseforge-packager/mainline <-- code ^
19:17.40arkanes_yeah I'm reading the code now
19:17.48Kaeltenused to be a cronjob, but we ran into issues with the startup time
19:17.49arkanes_oh I see where you daemonize now
19:17.55sylvanaar_workok, well, i guess deleting all my tags isnt that bad
19:18.04sylvanaar_worki can always get them back
19:18.05durcynhey, i used gentoo in production five years ago, it was only the worst idea we ever had
19:18.27durcyni pity whoever has to maintain that now
19:19.13nevcairielgentoo is not something you use for an enterprise server, its something you use on your play-toy box at home to tweak on every night!
19:19.32durcynand this was before the days of gold servers or package binhosts
19:19.49arkanes_nevcairiel: it's funny, because gentoo is incredibly conservative and stolid now
19:20.30Repo10broker_whoroll: 03profalbert 07master * v1.1.0-4-gadb9e64 Broker_WhoRoll.toc: [+1 commit] bump toc to 40000
19:20.32nevcairielstill, if you don't regularly upgrade the packages, there will coem a point when you can't upgrade anymore
19:21.09arkanes_do the wowace/curseforge repos have RSS feeds?
19:21.46nevcairielno :(
19:22.13nevcairielthere is so much awesome stuff that could be added
19:22.42arkanes_I'm moderately motivated to reimplement it as a twisted server and have it monitor my bitbucket repo via RSS
19:22.43sylvanaar_workthen I could have some serious twitter spam
19:22.51sylvanaar_worklol
19:23.32nevcairielrepo viewer, repo rss, and improved subscription system, that would make the page so much better for us developers
19:23.44sylvanaar_worki just mirrored my repos onto bitbucket, i need to figure out how to automate it
19:24.14durcyni just push to wowace and github, does hg not support multiple remotes
19:24.15durcyn?
19:24.22sylvanaar_workof course it does
19:24.25nevcairielin git you can just setup two urls for one push target
19:24.31arkanes_durcyn: it does, but I didn't want to do that
19:24.32sylvanaar_workoh really
19:24.44nevcairielso any push goes to two remotes automatically
19:24.45nevcairielits neat
19:24.50sylvanaar_workidk, in tortoisegit its just 1
19:25.02arkanes_I'm not sure if hg has that built in, but it'd be trivial to do it in a hook
19:25.12nevcairieli edited the config file to set it up, dunno if there is any command support for it
19:25.12sylvanaar_worki dont use commandline hg, but if i did id just make a batch file
19:26.16Repo10broker_professions: 03durcyn 07master * 4.0.0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] oh, right, remove Poisons since it's been gone for a year
19:26.48Repo10broker_professions: 03durcyn 07master * 4.0.0.1-1-gc97fde1 Broker_Professions.lua: [+1 commit] add Archaeology
19:27.22nevcairielBut anyway, its not my own repos i necessarily want web browsing for
19:27.27nevcairielIts others peoples thing
19:27.34nevcairielhate downloading the zip just to check something out
19:27.43sylvanaar_workyeah
19:27.46arkanes_yes repo browsing would be great
19:28.00sylvanaar_worknow i can just give a link
19:28.13nevcairielhonestly, the hg built in thing is not that great, though =/
19:28.17nevcairielbetter then nothing, but meh
19:28.18Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn 07master * 4.0.0.2-1-g2212d3d Crybaby.lua: [+1 commit] new polymorph spell ID, still won't work until blizzard fixes SPELL_AURA_BROKEN(_SPELL)
19:28.25sylvanaar_workit better than nothing
19:28.28arkanes_nevcairiel: bitbuckets is pretty nice
19:29.09sylvanaar_worknow, if only the CIA bot would link to the changeset
19:29.22sylvanaar_workthat'd be awesome
19:29.24nevcairielCIA actually does
19:29.26nevcairielRepo doesnt =/
19:29.27arkanes_man people still use CIA?
19:29.33Repo10broker_professions: 03durcyn 044.0.0.2 * e6fa1b1 /: [new tag] 4.0.0.2
19:29.45nevcairielgithub piped into CIA gives you bit.ly links to the changeset
19:29.50nevcairielits an awesome feature
19:30.01sylvanaar_workyeah, that would be awesome
19:30.32durcyncould roll your own wowace.com link shortener, everybody's doing it
19:30.35nevcairielwe should donate a month worth of curse points back to kaelten to work one month exclusively on new wowace things
19:30.38sylvanaar_worksupposedly the newest EAP of IntelliJ X has support for github - i havent checked it out yet
19:30.47Kaeltennevcairiel: hrm I'm game :)
19:30.53Kaeltenwould make for a nice xmas :D
19:31.07nevcairielI dunno how much points there are in total a month
19:31.13Kaeltenfor that I'd even work on it for hours when I got home
19:31.14nevcairielbut mine alone make 1000 USD or so
19:31.21sylvanaar_worka month?
19:31.28nevcairielyea
19:31.36sylvanaar_workmine arent even close to that
19:31.41Kaeltenneither are mine
19:31.45Kaeltennev is one of the top producers
19:31.49nevcairielI'm in the top 3 earners, i've been told
19:32.14Kaeltenactually
19:32.18Kaeltennev youre #1 now
19:32.23sylvanaar_worklol
19:32.23nevcairielinteresting
19:32.25nevcairielwho quit? :P
19:32.25sylvanaar_worknice
19:32.30sylvanaar_workquesthelper
19:32.43sylvanaar_work?
19:32.46Kaeltenya QH has fallen a lot and other mods are lower than they used to be
19:32.50arkanes_hows it distributed? By downloads?
19:32.55Kaeltenarkanes_: nope
19:32.55nevcairielinstall base
19:33.02nevcairielmeasured by curse client
19:33.09arkanes_just in... yeah
19:33.23sylvanaar_workwhere do i rank Kaelten
19:33.38Kaelten11
19:34.02arkanes_man gearscore is still #4 most downloaded addon?
19:34.11Kaeltendon't know
19:34.24arkanes_thats what the main page says :P
19:34.26nevcairielits insanely popular still <.<
19:34.52Kaeltenwow
19:34.57Kaeltenrecount is now the most popular addon
19:35.05sylvanaar_workyeah
19:35.11nevcairielI've always wondered how that works
19:35.18Kaeltenrecount, dbm, atlasloot enhanced, gearscore, omen, questhelper
19:35.27Kaeltenthen bt4
19:35.28pompywheres arl lol
19:35.37nevcairielAlso atlasloot, i didnt think that many people had that thing
19:35.47nevcairielbut its staying in the top 5 constnatly
19:35.54arkanes_I predict thats going to drop too, blizz is moving it into the base UI
19:35.58nevcairielindeed
19:36.08Kaeltenyeah it'll lower but it'll be slow
19:36.12arkanes_I haven't bothered to re-get it since 4.0
19:36.13Kaeltenmore than likely people will just disable it
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19:36.17Kaeltenand leave it installed
19:36.33sylvanaar_workprolly
19:36.34nevcairielyeah, we got points for threat-2.0 up until middle of wotlk
19:36.43Kaeltenalthough part of me is tempted to wipe the stats with 4.0 being here and all
19:36.45nevcairieland it went poof with 3.0
19:37.36EthanCentauraiif Blizzard builds Gnomario into base UI then I quit :p
19:37.45sylvanaar_worklol
19:37.48nevcairielthat stats, are those all-time-favorites, or some time span?
19:37.56Kaeltenpompy: 47th
19:37.59profalbert1well, I recently checked out my brothers' addon-folder and noticed that he didn't touch it since 1.5 years ago
19:38.09profalbert1I think that's how resistent most pple are
19:38.11arkanes_I had a bunch of crap in mine
19:38.18sylvanaar_workKaelten: how about prat and acp
19:38.20Kaeltennevcairiel: iirc it's timespan based so that people who stop using the client will eventually fall off
19:38.20arkanes_I wiped everything and started clean with 4.0
19:38.31sylvanaar_workwe are going to deluge him with questions
19:38.36Kaeltensylvanaar_work: acp?
19:38.36arkanes_I also found out one reason why loading was so slow for me - I had 400mb of saved vars
19:38.44nevcairielyou can lookup that list yourself
19:38.47nevcairielthe curse client shows it
19:38.52sylvanaar_workKaelten: does it
19:38.55sylvanaar_worker
19:38.57sylvanaar_workdoes it
19:38.59Kaeltenyes
19:39.04sylvanaar_workah
19:39.09Kaeltenin the find more addons field
19:39.13Kaeltenit's a sortable column :)
19:39.15sylvanaar_workim at work
19:39.18Kaeltenhehe
19:39.25Kaeltenprat is 17th or so
19:39.26pompyarkanes_: 400mb of enabled addons? bc it doesnt load em unless the addons enabled
19:39.31sylvanaar_worksounds right
19:39.54Kaeltenwhat's acp though?
19:39.59arkanes_pompy: I beleive that was just enabled ones
19:40.00sylvanaar_workAddon Control Panel
19:40.01pompy@describe acp
19:40.03Repopompy: More than one project was returned. Try supplying a game. Possible games: WoW, RoM.
19:40.07Kaeltenpretty high up
19:40.12Kaeltenprobably top 25
19:40.20pompyarkanes_: damn
19:40.23arkanes_pompy: I don't remember how big the total thing was, but my saved vars folder was larger than my entire addons directory
19:40.27sylvanaar_workcool
19:40.29pompyheh
19:40.50sylvanaar_workmakes me want to work on addons instead of my Lua IDE
19:40.55sylvanaar_worklol
19:40.57Kaeltenhehe
19:41.04Kaeltendoes your lua ide run on mac?
19:41.08sylvanaar_workyrd
19:41.11sylvanaar_workyes
19:41.14Kaeltenlink?
19:41.19nevcairielIts IDEA, should run everywhere where java runs
19:41.28sylvanaar_workyep
19:41.32Kaeltencool
19:41.33sylvanaar_worki run it on my mac
19:41.33nevcairielalso i heard java on mac is kinda dead
19:41.36Kaeltenso not in 10.7+ then
19:41.37nevcairielso, maybe not for long
19:41.37nevcairiel:D
19:41.47Kaeltenunless oracle steps up to keep it alive
19:41.49arkanes_I recently switched from textmate to textwrangler on my mac and I am much happier
19:41.56Kaeltentextwrangler?
19:42.08arkanes_it's the new BBEdit
19:42.12sylvanaar_workKaelten: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18501
19:42.16Nechcknyeah, it is pretty sweet
19:42.22nevcairielhrmpf, i lost my idea when i reinstalled the OS
19:42.23NechcknIf you do not have bbedit, of course
19:42.26nevcairielneed to grab it agian
19:42.30Kaeltenhrm
19:42.36KaeltenI've been using textmate for lua
19:42.44durcynyou know what's great
19:42.45durcynvim.
19:42.51EthanCentaurainevcairiel has no idea where it is
19:42.52arkanes_I find it hard to imagine that Oracle will support OS X in a big way
19:42.57sylvanaar_workyeah texmate is ok
19:43.05nevcairielvim is not great, vim is for people stuck in the last century
19:43.25sylvanaar_workbut it cant do what I am doing - the only smart editor is scite + luainspect
19:43.27arkanes_they have little incentive to care about the desktop, Apple doesn't put the JVM on their devices, and they have no in house expertise on it
19:43.35Kaeltenarkanes_: yeah at the same time I don't blame apple for saying Java people, keep this up yourselves
19:43.50Kaeltenarkanes_: not so, apple uses java extensively server side
19:43.53durcynnevcairiel: graphical environments are a fad, mice are for girls
19:43.57arkanes_Kaelten: apple had a really big investment in Java a few years ago, I wonder how much of this is politics
19:44.11nevcairielKaelten: then they shouldn't have insisted on rolling their own in the first place
19:44.11Kaeltenitunes is still in webobjects which is java
19:44.17arkanes_Kaelten: oracle has no OS X people is what I mean
19:44.23Kaeltenarkanes_: ah
19:44.24Kaeltenya
19:44.35nevcairielbut Apple likes cutting out APIs that they don't like, and leaving their users stuck in the stone ages
19:44.47Kaeltennevcairiel: they're a company that is afraid of depending on a third party
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19:44.55Kaeltensince it's screwed them over in the past
19:45.48sylvanaar_workspeaking of apple i was afraid i bricked my ipad this morning installing 4.2b3, i didnt even get to back it up - it said "the os version you are running has expired"
19:45.50nevcairielI rememebr all the drama around 64 bit carbon .. announcing it, and then, uh, we changed our minds, go screw yourself and rewrite everything in cocoa if you want 64-bit support
19:46.17arkanes_yeah
19:46.24sylvanaar_workim on again off again about cocoa/obj-c
19:46.34arkanes_it was really only adobe keeping carbon alive that long to begin with
19:47.02arkanes_sylvanaar_work: obj-c is meh, cocoa is great
19:47.03nevcairielarkanes_: they juts shouldn't have announced carbon 64-bit and then dump it shortly before the release
19:47.16Kaeltennevcairiel: carbon is a sesspool
19:47.22KaeltenI'm glad it's slowly on the way out
19:47.38nevcairielI don't care if the API sucks, Apples way of handling it is just developer and user unfriendly
19:47.53arkanes_nevcairiel: right, but when they announced it it was because they thought that they were going to play ball with adobe and commit resources to helping them with their carbon stuff
19:48.05arkanes_and when they decided fuck adobe, they no longer had incentive to do that
19:48.44arkanes_nevcairiel: apple has always been much more aggressive about deprecating and dropping libraries and APIs, and their developer community is mostly on board with that
19:48.44nevcairielJobs would rather screw all the photoshop users that were eager to finally get access to more RAM, then to work with adobe
19:48.56Kaeltenarkanes_: and we've no idea what happened between adobe and apple in that negotation
19:49.05arkanes_Kaelten: no, but it's obviously soemthing
19:49.10Kaeltenyup
19:49.11nevcairielEspecially considering macs were always marked the platform for graphics people
19:49.16durcyni'd rather see adobe eat shit, flash is a blight on the internet
19:49.23KaeltenI wonder if they wanted a more serious comitment with adobe than adobe was willing to give
19:49.43durcynif photoshop users suffer as a consequence, then so be it
19:49.54arkanes_Kaelten: I suspect it was something like "clean your shit up and lets get a serious flash & photoshop product that doesn't suck out"
19:50.04arkanes_and adobe was like "hey, windows users love this stuff, bite me"
19:50.07Kaeltennevcairiel: a long time ago adobe said fu apple users, we're concentrating on PC people
19:50.55arkanes_obviously porting something like photoshop to a new gui library is a huge task, but there's really no good excuse for how damn bad flash is
19:51.00nevcairielI guess i just don't agress with his arrogant views on things. Every user of an apple product has to do exactly what he thinks, and not more
19:51.08nevcairielagree*
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19:51.53nevcairielI still wonder how he has millions eating out of his hands with that <.<
19:52.03TheDude2also evil: apps that use "depreciated technologies" are not allowed on the apple (desktop) app store
19:52.05arkanes_apple released some stats for.. 10.4, I think, and based on the built in crash reporter, flash was responsible for more than 50% of all crashes across all OS X installs
19:52.07TheDude2including java, and rosetta
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19:52.25arkanes_TheDude2: sure
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19:52.31arkanes_TheDude2: they're trying to push a vision there
19:52.42nevcairielDon't you have to sign a NDA to use their betas?
19:52.50KaeltenTheDude2: rosetta means that the aps haven't been updated to run on Intel macs yet
19:52.52nevcairielor did they scrub that policy? :p
19:52.55arkanes_nevcairiel: there's a couple different levels of access
19:53.05arkanes_nevcairiel: the highest access one does involve an NDA, yeah
19:53.25nevcairielI rather have public betas, allows me to prepare for the upcoming launch
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19:53.31nevcairieldeveloper perspective
19:53.35arkanes_nevcairiel: sure they do that to
19:53.47Kaeltennevcairiel: they're dev programs give early access to new builds
19:53.51Kaeltentheir*
19:53.52nevcairielBut no, jobs couldnt have his great launch talks with a secret product :p
19:53.56arkanes_nevcairiel: it's not unlike MSDN
19:54.27arkanes_nevcairiel: you can pay a lot of early access to all the stuff, including an NDA, pay a little for less-early access, or pay nothing and get even less early access
19:54.28TheDude2developer betas have a very loose NDA. they arent public, but they are open to anyone to access who has a $100/yr ADC membership of any level
19:54.43TheDude2and yeah rosetta makes sense, but thats a pretty huge dis to java.... pushing a vision for sure
19:55.04Ackislol Parnic|Work I just won the gears of war 2 map code /cheer
19:55.05nevcairielarkanes_: or use windows, and get early access for free (or even earlier with MSDN for a price), without a NDA, so i can talk about it!
19:55.22nevcairielor use linux, where there is no secrets
19:55.23nevcairiel:)
19:55.23Parnic|WorkAckis: jeez, you should start entering competitions on my behalf
19:55.27KaeltenTheDude2: java apps really suck on mac, I can't think of one I use regularly
19:55.36arkanes_nevcairiel: MSDN is tiered just like apples program is
19:55.41Kaeltenand when I do it's mostly only eclipse and a few others
19:55.43TheDude2heh yeah the only reason i heard of it was re: minecraft
19:56.05Kaeltenah minecraft is java?
19:56.12arkanes_nevcairiel: although I think that the higher tiers (we're in one) are branded something besides MSDN, it's the same concept though
19:56.14nevcairielarkanes_: the point is that their public betas are much much more extensive and accessible
19:56.21arkanes_nevcairiel: eh
19:56.23TheDude2and other than that geez... maybe puzzle pirates 3 years ago? hardly any pure java major apps there
19:56.29TheDude2(for a desktop level user)
19:56.32TheDude2yep, 100% java
19:56.35arkanes_nevcairiel: MS makes a lot more products, too
19:56.51Kaeltennevcairiel: MS has to have more extensive betas' they're on a 5 year release cycle (seemingly)
19:57.14arkanes_Apple definitely cycles much faster
19:57.42arkanes_new XCode will probably be available before a beta for the new VS will be
19:57.43KaeltenTheDude2: yeah honestly, 1st party java loss isn't a huge issue for me, I'm sure some people are concerned because of some tool or app they love, but really for most I don't think it'll be a major issue
19:57.48nevcairielI don't see how the release cycle is important there
19:58.04TheDude2right, losing apples support is the huge deal. java support itself wont go anywhere
19:58.10arkanes_nevcairiel: if your entire release cycle is 18 months, having a 2 year beta period like vs2010 did is kind of out of the qeustion
19:58.20Kaeltennevcairiel: you're talking length and depth of betas, I'm pointing out that less changes are being made between release of osx or other apple products than ms's
19:59.02nevcairielIf Jobs had his way, he wouldn't tell anyone about new features, and then hold his typical big speech, announce the new features, and release the finished product on the same day :p
19:59.09KaeltenTheDude2: does windows even ship with java? I thought you had to go to sun/oracle to grab it anyway
19:59.19nevcairielNo it doesn't
19:59.22arkanes_besides, even without more "developer input", Apple has a considerably better track record of releasing libraries and developer products that are actually good, useful, and supported than MS does
19:59.23Kaeltennevcairiel: but imperically that doesn't happen
19:59.38TheDude2no it doesnt
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19:59.55Kaeltenarkanes_: not sure I'd make that argument unequiviqably, VS is ms's best product afaic
19:59.59TheDude2but thats more from that lawsuit in the late 90s probably
20:00.02arkanes_VS is a good product
20:00.19arkanes_but I'm not just talking about VS, but about all of their developer support
20:00.28TheDude2(when MS added extensions to java and broke the licence, and sun complained and had to sue them etc etc)
20:00.36nevcairielI don't have to sign up to get access to the documentation
20:00.39nevcairiellikes
20:00.43KaeltenTheDude2: yeah so apple is going to make people go to sun/oracle to grab it, and the ball is in sun/oracle's court to keep it usable
20:00.54arkanes_in the last 5 years the only major library component that MS has hailed as a great new thing that is still supported is .net itself
20:01.06nevcairielKaelten: but oracle doesnt have a java for osx, because Apple didnt want them to
20:01.15Mirrormnoh, axodius, you scoundrel
20:01.17Kaeltennevcairiel: they need to get on that then
20:01.24Mirrormn*axodious
20:01.26nevcairielIf i were oracle, i wouldnt be in a hurry
20:01.26Mirrormn7 new tickets
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20:01.44arkanes_Sun encouraged OS developers to own their own JVM
20:01.53Kaeltenarkanes_: I'm excited about xcode4
20:01.58arkanes_except for MS, obviously
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20:02.17nevcairielarkanes_: and now they sue google for their java VM? :P
20:02.17arkanes_Kaelten: I've been playing with alphas of clang, lllvm, and the new llvm based debugger
20:02.19Kaeltenarkanes_: well sun has always been asses about java licensing things
20:02.40Kaeltennevcairiel: because they aren't getting their payday on it
20:02.48arkanes_nevcairiel: the encouraged them to own it and also pay licensing fees ;)
20:02.55Kaeltenarkanes_: xcode4 is already available to the dev programs ;)
20:03.25nevcairielexcept google doesnt earn with android
20:03.28arkanes_xcode is getting really good
20:03.30Kaeltenyeah didn't even think about the fees angle, for all we know apple decided it wasn't worth paying the lciense fees or maybe oracle hiked them dramattically
20:03.34arkanes_nevcairiel: that was why they didn't want to license it
20:03.54arkanes_nevcairiel: so they were very careful to write something that wasn't technically a JVM
20:04.33nevcairielsoftware patents need to die anyway, the patent wars in the phone sector alone on software thigns are just stupid
20:04.36arkanes_Oracle is alleging "direct copying" in their suite, which makes it sounds to me that they don't actually have a very strong case
20:04.43nevcairielthere is only so many ways you can design a UI
20:05.24arkanes_what *really* amuses me is that a bunch of the internet conspiracy theorists instantly decided that the oracle suit was a proxy battle on Apples behalf, to remove competition from the iphone
20:05.27Kaeltennevcairiel: software patents are almost universilly evil, and so few are a legitimate inovation made that you can't justify the system at all.  So ya, burn them all
20:06.10TheDude2oh for sure! I assumed the same thing about java being "depreciated"
20:06.12nevcairielspeaking about iphones, i heard apple is incappable to design white phones
20:06.15nevcairielit must be hard!
20:06.16TheDude2some unrelated business fight nothing to do with java
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20:06.40TheDude2just assume maximum level of evilness on all sides :S
20:06.43arkanes_heh
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20:07.13Kaeltennevcairiel: one rumor I heard was that the hardware manufactures are having a hard time making the button and the glass the same color
20:07.56nevcairielOther rumor i heard was that the 4 will never come out in white, and they'll make people wanting white get the next gen phone for a premium price :p
20:08.02arkanes_Kaelten: have you seen the letters oracle has been sending out to mysql business customers?
20:08.26arkanes_nevcairiel: why would you ever want a white phone, that is almost as crazy as wanting pornography
20:08.28Kaeltenarkanes_: no, but I'm sure it's scary
20:08.38nevcairielarkanes_: wait, so, everyone wants white?
20:08.44Kaeltenarkanes_: I think you meant buying pornography
20:08.49arkanes_Kaelten: while reading it I had this mental image of ellison rubbing his hands and cackling
20:09.06arkanes_I was just making a little joke, jobs doesn't want porn on the iphone
20:09.27nevcairielHe doesn't want many stuff on the iphone
20:09.48Kaeltennevcairiel: yup, but it works, they control what 70-80% of the profit in the smartphone market?
20:10.04arkanes_I'm very happy with my iphone
20:10.05nevcairielIts not that much anymore
20:10.14arkanes_since I got a 3gs, I don't even feel a need to jailbreak
20:10.52nevcairielthe iphone percentage has been slowly going down with android phones spreading even further
20:11.05arkanes_entirely predictable really
20:11.28Kaeltennevcairiel: market share has, but I think profit is still strong
20:11.56nevcairielthats mostly because a higher percentage of android apps is free, and iphone apps cost more money, and apple gets their share in those :D
20:12.04arkanes_there was nothing at all competing with the iphone when it was released, but the phones following in its steps obviously had to attract someone
20:12.12nevcairielalso, the damn iphones are way more expensive <.<
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20:12.49Kaeltennevcairiel: talking about the phones temselves
20:13.10Kaeltenappstore is another story entirely
20:13.10nevcairielthe iphone costs about 50% more then a comparable android
20:13.20nevcairielat least in europe
20:13.25nevcairielno idea about prices in the US
20:13.40Kaeltennevcairiel: you can get android phones here for buhy one get one free
20:13.47Kaeltenwhere iphones are still 200 to 300
20:13.50Axodiousdoes anyone have a raw combatlog of blood princes?
20:13.57arkanes_they're about the same in the US, but almost nobody buys a full price phone in the US
20:14.07nevcairielI hate those contract phones
20:14.11arkanes_it's all carrier subsidy
20:14.14nevcairielthe contracts suck most of the time
20:14.21Kaeltenall phone companies in the us suck tohugh
20:14.24nevcairielheh
20:14.26arkanes_they do
20:14.29Kaeltenso it doesn't matter who you let ream you
20:14.33nevcairielthats another story entirely
20:14.39nevcairielyour country is too big
20:15.04arkanes_that's actually another reason I'm sticking with my iphone, I'm grandfathered in to the original iphone unlimited dataplan
20:15.12Kaeltenarkanes_: me too
20:15.15arkanes_and since i use pandora on my phone instead of the radio in my car I use a lot of data
20:15.18nevcairielWe have 4 carriers here with probably >95% coverage in the whole country
20:15.22nevcairielthat keeps competition up
20:15.27Kaeltentempted to jailbreak so I can get unlimited tethering instead of switching ot the shitty contract
20:15.27nevcairielso the carriers behave
20:15.38durcynnevcairiel: contracts let them collude here, regardless of coverage
20:16.17Kaeltenwe need open wire/towers laws imho
20:16.43arkanes_we need something
20:17.09arkanes_I'd give up my unlimited contract if they would start being honest about how much pushing bits costs them, and how many bits it takes to send a text
20:17.26durcyngood luck, all at&t has to do is buy a few senators and your dreams die faster than you can say "openmoko"
20:17.41Kaeltenarkanes_: texts are almost pure profit
20:17.42PneumatusUK is a similar situation to germany by the sounds of it as well, 4 major carriers with pretty much equal coverage
20:17.50arkanes_Kaelten: oh I know
20:17.50Kaeltenbecause they piggy back on the standard packet for voice
20:17.52durcynoh, sms has always been a rip off though arkanes_, since it costs them literaly nothing
20:18.00TheDude2we also get cheap phones, its a fair tradeoff
20:18.06nevcairielPneumatus: its pretty much the same in most western european countries, tbh
20:18.19durcynTheDude2: bullshit
20:18.38nevcairielIts mostly the same carriers as well
20:18.44Pneumatusvodafone, orange and t-mobile cover pretty much every western europe country in some guise or other
20:18.49durcynpaying through the nose on monthly fees does not make up for one carrier-locked subsidized handset
20:18.51nevcairielUK has a vodafone, a o2 i think too
20:18.59Pneumatuswe have o2 also, yeh
20:19.21nevcairieland of course t-mobile, which even have their US carrier :p
20:21.07Parnic|Workackis: apparently the TA scanner decided to check me out on Tuesday and promptly went back to ignoring me again
20:21.10Parnic|Workpoor site.
20:21.20nevcairielIt just doesnt like you
20:21.22Ackisdon't worry, I won't ignore you
20:21.25Pneumatust-mobile UK is now owned by Orange anyway
20:21.38Parnic|Worknevcairiel: i don't like me either
20:21.57Kaeltent-mobile in the us is a relatively weak carrier, they don't have good national coverage from my experiance
20:22.24Kaeltensylvanaar: how do I load your lua plugin?
20:22.37Pneumatusrofl you can make the launcher download cataclysm without buying the preorder
20:22.45Pneumatusjust by changing a cvar
20:22.52MegalonOH NOES
20:22.57MegalonGAMEBREAKING
20:22.59Parnic|Workwow, i feel like Raptr just Fiskered me. "Attack me if you dare, Parnic. I will crush you."
20:23.01nevcairielPneumatus: yeah, but wahts the point :)
20:23.03Megalonyou'll get in jail for this Pneumatus
20:23.11Megalonthey are after you
20:23.12Pneumatuslol jail
20:23.21Kaeltenah found it in the thing
20:23.34Pneumatuswhen the cops come, all i hear is whoop-whoop-whoop
20:23.35Pneumatusor something
20:24.04Mirrormnwhat the...
20:24.09Mirrormnwhy do I have 3 copies of WoW open
20:24.20Megalonmultiboxin you are
20:24.30Mirrormnnone of them are logged in -.-
20:26.08Megalonso you are rockin the login screen
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20:48.47AckisKaelten: I'm responding to all curseforge tickets with this: https://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/39517e2f-e968-4715-8b97-9d7e5f849c54.jpg
20:48.59Fisk3rgood job
20:57.09Megalonwhat a funny guy
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21:12.44MegalonFisker, stop beign so Fisk3r
21:12.51Megalonbeing :<
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21:14.45Fisk3rnaw Megalon
21:14.48Fisk3ri'm banevading
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21:15.24Megalonyou so tricky
21:16.22Fisk3ri'm pretty damn awesome Megalon
21:16.44Megalonyou are such a sick puppy
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21:17.23Fisk3ri'm like julyzerg in sc1
21:17.28Fisk3rsick micro
21:17.45AxodiousMirrormn, commented on a couple of declined tickets too in case you missed
21:19.42Megalonyou cute little female puppy Fisk3r
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21:37.15AxodiousMirrormn, how does the gui for manually choosing an icon work?
21:37.35Axodiousdoes it not have all icons to search through?
21:38.37Mirrormnit should
21:38.46Axodiousi'm trying to find the right name for blessing of kings
21:40.17Axodiousis there a way maybe to find the icon name via a mouseover macro? similar to finding a frame
21:40.29Mirrormnoh you know what it is
21:40.53Mirrormnwhen it searches the spell names, it compares strings case-sensitively
21:41.12MirrormnI searched for "kings" and got nothing, but when I searched for "Kings" I got it no problem
21:41.25Axodiousah
21:41.26Axodiousthx
21:41.32harlinspectation, sound timing and positioning still crap.. what did they repack the whole game for on wednesday..
21:41.55TorhalAckis: He told me to tell you he wants his bonus points back
21:42.27Fisk3ri want my ude points back
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21:46.29sylvanaarKaelten: use the plugin manager
21:46.45sylvanaarsettings/plugins
21:47.46p3lim<PROTECTED>
21:47.57sylvanaarKaelten: pics http://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home
21:48.00Fisk3r~seen nicoli_s
21:48.17purlnicoli_s is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 22h 28m 8s) #wowuidev (2d 22h 28m 8s). Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 3h 32m 21s, last said: 'i thought maybe my dead baby references scared someone away :P'.
21:48.17p3limthanks Fisk3r, my keyboard is bugged
21:49.54AckisTorhal: MSN
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21:51.48Axodiouswell, i'm done for now again Mirrormn... almost converted all my auras (for my paladin)
21:52.01Axodiousworking on raid debuffs >_>
21:52.02Ackislua> for 1=i,100000,1 do print("Torhal") end
21:52.02lua_botAckis: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '1'
21:52.09Ackisderp
21:52.16Ackislua> for i=1,100000,1 do print("Torhal") end
21:52.16lua_botAckis: Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torhal, Torh... (result truncated)
21:52.17Axodiousoh! i had a question about one of those
21:52.37Axodiousi don't have it in pa but i thought of it when i saw all the message triggers
21:52.38harlthat is.. great.. really..
21:52.39quiescenso.O
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21:52.58Ackiswha'ts great harl?
21:53.19Axodiouswhen prince taldaram launches an empowered flame orb at someone it says "empowered flame orb soemthing something something playername"
21:53.23harlthat multitude of Torhals, Ackis
21:53.28Axodiousit's not an emote or a boss yell
21:53.33p3limgot some issues with jQuery's .load and .append, anyone able to help?
21:53.39AckisI can do you next harl
21:53.44Axodiouscan't figure out how to add it
21:54.04harlDO me, huh?.. oh no no no..
21:54.19Fisk3ri'd do you harl
21:54.24Ackisthat's what she said
21:54.32TorhalAckis: You're very sick.
21:54.52Ackis*cough cough*
21:54.56Fisk3runlike me Torhal
21:54.59Axodious"Inferno flames speed toward playername"
21:55.20Axodioustrying to make an aura appear for 5 seconds after it sees that if the playername is me
21:55.26quiescenswho's playername
21:55.30harlFisk3r: how did you get to slip through my filter anyway..
21:55.32Axodiousrandom target
21:55.51Axodiousit's like, some enviromental emote
21:56.12arkanes_Axodious: go look at dbms alerts
21:56.35harlFisk3r: unless you're not really Fisker of course
21:57.03Axodiousbleh, i dont have dbm installed!
21:57.13arkanes_don't be ridiculous, why would Fisker have a 3 in his name unless he were some sort of renegade cybertroll?
21:57.17Megalonharl, Fisk3r fisk3red it
21:57.36harlwell, that's.. conclusive.. thanks
21:58.13harli dunno, arkanes, absolutely not.
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22:02.06AxodiousMirrormn, last question and i'm logging for the night, doing a message trigger... is there a way for the message to be (a match i guess?) "some line of text is chasing player" where player is would the variable for my name?
22:02.45arkanes_Axodious: you should write a weakauras-encounters addon that does triggers based on bossmod events
22:03.15Axodiousi can't write lua :( and i didn't think it was a bossmod event
22:04.05arkanes_Axodious: its something, but bossmods detect it and trigger an event for it
22:04.11arkanes_at least dxe and dbm do
22:04.40SunTsuAxodious: I guess nobody hier could write lua until they started doing so
22:05.08MirrormnAxodious: you mean you want it to match a specific phrase, but that phrase would change specifically based on what character you are using?
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22:06.26Mirrormnthere is currently no way to do that
22:06.51Mirrormnin 1.2.4, there will be a Custom trigger, which will theoretically allow you to accomplish that, but it would require some writing of Lua
22:07.03Axodiousk, guess i could do seperate auras with loads for specific name
22:07.07Fisk3rsorry for the inconvenience harl <\2
22:07.11Fisk3r<\3
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22:08.31harlno problem yet, love.
22:08.38Axodiousarkanes_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SBoGZEf3Dk at 1:20, in her chat log and in the middle of her screen it says "Inferno flame speed toward Aliena!" is that a bossmod emote?
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22:11.35Axodiousi mean the actually text on the screen is that being generated by a mod or is that the client?
22:11.40Axodiousactual*
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22:26.28arkanes_Axodious: the actual text is a boss emote
22:26.53arkanes_Axodious: but bossmods detect those and, parse out the player name, and issue events that you can use more easily to detect them
22:27.13Axodiousis a boss emote detected as a regular emote?
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22:27.25arkanes_no they come in on a special channel
22:28.26Axodiouswonder how/what weakauras reads as a message emote....
22:28.51Axodiousw/e i'll try it
22:29.15Axodiouseven if i knew lua dunno if i'd bother with an encounters addon for it
22:29.25Axodiousin 1.3 he's adding import export options
22:30.20arkanes_Axodious: there's a special event for them, CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE
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22:30.52arkanes_from the DBM module it looks like the target is part of the event arguments so you don't need to do any splitting
22:31.22Axodiousk that i can make a ticket for as an enhancement
22:35.09harlyea, assuming that she's been using the addons part of AlienasInterfacePack on wowinterface it's probably just dbm intercepting/copying those messages (the emotes) during that fight.
22:35.37arkanes_boss emotes are display in the middle of the screen like that as part of the base UI now
22:35.55Axodiousyeah that's what i assumed
22:36.07Axodiousjust wasn't sure WHAT it was as far as events go
22:36.08arkanes_dbm shows an extra alert if it's targetted at you, but thats it
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22:36.44Axodiouslike i said earlier trying to make an aura that puts a texture in the middle of my screen for 5 seconds if the boss emote is "Inferno Flames speed toward Sonic!" (sonic is my paladin)
22:36.44Repo3f6d0ef: do not package babelfish
22:36.45Repoc03d1a1: remove Debug.lua
22:37.27Axodiousas Mirror said earlier, there's a "custom" box that let's me put in some form of lua but i haven't touched it >_<
22:37.42harlanyway, the video's from january, the addon compilation's from may, so the messages aren't part of the default interface either way
22:37.54harljust saying.
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22:38.35Axodiousbut there is an event! text aside
22:39.49arkanes_harl: the messages absolutely are part of the default itnerface
22:40.11arkanes_harl: if you do BP with no addons whatsoever, you will see the fireball emote in the middle of your screen in large text
22:40.30harlthey are now, but they haven't been shown in the middle of the screen before 4.x oO
22:40.43arkanes_its been ages
22:40.47arkanes_2.x at least
22:41.06arkanes_I think it may even date back to vanilla
22:41.19arkanes_thats the entire point of the CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE message
22:42.24harli know boss emotes, i've seen *them* in the chat frame all the time, but i've never seen any of them automagickally displayed into my face for some reason.
22:42.32arkanes_it was around the same time that the added /rw for raid leaders
22:42.45arkanes_before that, raid mods like ct_raid used comms to do the same thing
22:43.10arkanes_harl: you probably use something that suppresses them
22:43.17pompysylvanaar: "What append (it 4h32 am 29 October) WowAce push outdated version as new  release (more than 10 right now) it a bug from automated packager? or  some one hack in your account Sylvanaar?"
22:43.18pompylol
22:43.47harli dunno, i've played wow since late 2005, but i'd never been in a raid until about the end of 2007
22:43.52arkanes_either by suppressing the warning frame where they're inserted, or by just hooking the event, some bossmods do that in so that you can control where they show up
22:44.02harland i didn't use many add-ons back then
22:45.07harlthere's also a pretty high probability i've been mentally ignoring those messages.
22:45.17arkanes_I just checked the frameXML and the code for it was present in at least 2.3
22:45.55arkanes_also in 2.0.1
22:46.58arkanes_oh I tell a small lie, the 2.0.1 stuff had CHAT_MSG_RAID_WARNING, but not the boss emote stuff
22:47.45arkanes_but 2.4.3 does, so it was added during BC
22:50.24harlwell, ok then they've been there. either way i haven't seen much of them, so i don't remember actually having seen them until now. and there's also this thing that i get into raids now much more often than ever before.
22:51.06arkanes_harl: there's more than a few addons that move them or suppress them in some way anyway
22:51.24arkanes_bossmods like DBM as i said, and I think some of the SCT addons do also
22:51.46arkanes_anyway!
22:53.56harlyeah.. ;)
22:54.08harlhungrily wanders offirc to get something to eat.
22:54.25Axodiousi'm blind >_>
22:54.33Axodioushe's already got boss emote in weakauras
22:54.35Axodiousdur
22:57.30Mirror|KFAyay for boss emote
22:57.56Megaloneven bosses got emotes
22:58.02Axodiousfound a new weird bug with a multi select mode :P
22:58.05MegalonCAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT AXODIOUS
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22:58.23Axodiouscan't set a groups load using multi-select
23:01.46Axodiousok im done for real now! my game is even cloesd!
23:01.48Axodiousclosed*
23:03.09Mirrormnoh, when you switch one of the options to the multiselect box
23:03.15Mirrormnit doesn't propogate for groups?
23:03.20Axodiousit doesn't do anything
23:03.20MirrormnI'll PUT THAT ON THE LIST
23:03.23Axodiousand they're all blank
23:03.30Mirrormngroups are very touchy things
23:03.38Axodiousbut i have EVERYTHING grouped
23:03.39Axodious:X
23:03.47Axodiousit's all organized!
23:03.54Mirrormnwell I dunno if that's the best idea ^_^
23:04.06Mirrormnbut whatever works for you, I suppose
23:04.26Axodiousseems to work fine atm
23:04.33Axodiousmost of the time im not actually using the groups...
23:04.39Axodiousthere just there for organization
23:04.59MirrormnI'd like it if it was possible to nest groups
23:05.01Mirrormnbut...
23:05.15Mirrormnthat was just too complicated for me to implement =/
23:06.02Axodiousi'd take a screenshot of everything expanded but theres not enough room!
23:06.10Axodiousi expand 1 and it fills the gui
23:06.16Mirrormnlol
23:06.27MirrormnI actually have one group with like 20 displays in it
23:06.44MirrormnI made a beam texture for every one of my short-term procs, like Lightweave or DFO stacks
23:06.53Mirrormnand then I put them all in a dynamic group
23:07.02Axodiousmy biggest one is that first one i was taking about, all the raid buffs im missing in a dynamic group
23:07.08Mirrormnand then I made each beam's height be proportional to the amount of dps the proc gives me
23:07.12Axodiousincluding flask/well fed
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23:07.41Axodiousyou've got no idea how long i've waited for someone to replace power auras >_< lol
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23:07.56Mirrormnso the end effect is I get this huge beam whose length is approximately equivalent to how much short-term dps I have
23:08.03Mirrormnit's pretty neat
23:08.13Axodiousyou'd have to fraps/screenshot that for me so i can see
23:08.29MirrormnI'm gonna make it be one of the tutorials
23:08.34Mirrormnwhen I get around to making tutorials
23:09.12Axodiousi may be able to help with those if i have time, in all the previous guilds i've been in i've done exports for power auras
23:09.44Axodiousmainly for boss events (BIG skull in your face means gtfo)
23:10.18Mirrormnthen you may be excited to learn that in 1.3, you will be able to simply link displays to share them (like a spell link)
23:10.24Mirrormnit's gonna be pretty sweet
23:10.37Axodioussweet, no more 100 line exports
23:10.39Axodiouslol
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23:20.27Axodiousi love (and hate) at the same time how you did the options as a separate module using virtually 0 resources... until you go to config something
23:20.59ShefkiSunTsu: I don't know what is that?
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23:23.37koaschtenAxodious what? there is a replacement for power auras `? something less cpu and fps draining?
23:24.13Axodious@project weakauras
23:24.15RepoAxodious: http://www.wowace.com/addons/weakauras/. WeakAuras. Game: WoW. Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Updated: 45 hours ago. Tickets: 16/27
23:24.23Axodiousalready posted it on all my old guild forums
23:24.24Axodiouslol
23:24.30Axodiousit's really really nice
23:24.38Mirrormn<PROTECTED>
23:24.54koaschtenbookmarked for analyses after the weekend ;)
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23:29.29ccKepwtf is up with malygos on LSD :o
23:29.34Axodious?
23:29.38ccKepjust went there the first time for a few month
23:29.51ccKepdid the 25 version with 10man and encountered this bug:
23:29.55ccKephttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWMxGu6QTww
23:30.05Axodiouswhoa
23:30.07ccKepthe stuff from the p2->p3 phase transistion doesnt disappear
23:30.18ccKepreally got sick of it
23:30.42ccKepwith malygos firing beams and the storm clouds and such, LSD at its best
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23:32.09Axodiousjust watching the video makes me queezy
23:32.38Mirrormnthat happened to our guild like a year and a half ago
23:32.41Axodiousanyway guys, i'm out for the night... thanks again for an amazing addon Mirrormn ;) if i've got time i'll deffinently help write up some tutorials :P
23:32.45Mirrormnit makes it *really* hard to do phase 3
23:32.48Megalonit makes me wanna rape a rabbit
23:32.53Megalonso it seems to be meth, not LSD
23:32.58vhaarrhides
23:33.09Megalondurr
23:33.11Shefkinevcairiel: You around?
23:33.23nevcairielaround yes, awake, not so much
23:33.52ShefkiWhat did you do to AceAddOn-3.0 that has people crying at me to tag my addon to bump the version of it.
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23:35.51nevcairielThere was a bug, and i fixed it. Then it turned out, there was a long standing library upgrading bug, which i then fixed as well.
23:36.03nevcairielSo when users have the version after my first fix, they are kidna screwed =p
23:36.28nevcairielIt was only up for like 4 hours
23:36.31nevcairielshrugs
23:36.37ShefkiSo what this comes down to is....
23:36.48ShefkiPEOPLE NEED TO STOP PACAKGING TRUNK
23:37.13durcynwho doesn't use tag:latest? :(
23:37.16ShefkiBecause some fucktard doesn't have tag: latest in his .pkgmeta I have to retag everything so I'm not broken.
23:37.23Shefkidurcyn: A lot of fucking idiot authors.
23:37.44ShefkiLast time it was sylvanaar who was to blame.
23:37.59durcyni wouldn't classify sylvanaar as an idiot
23:38.12ShefkiI would if he's packaging libraries without tags.
23:38.26ShefkiAnd if the library has no tags then the author of the library is the idiot.
23:39.22nevcairielI dunno, i didnt think it affected many people, i didnt see any threads on the forums
23:39.32nevcairielluckily the packager died, so i could fix it before it went back up :P
23:39.37ShefkiI'm getting people saying that PB4 isn't loading their profiles.
23:39.45ShefkiAnd now someone is saying it's becuase of AceAddOn.
23:40.10nevcairielThe only symption of the problem would be that modules don't stay off
23:40.24nevcairielIt would overwrite the module status with "on" when the library upgrades
23:40.41ShefkiThat might appear as profiles not loading to some people.
23:41.13ShefkiSo I guess I need to go see if I can't replicate this.
23:41.24ShefkiSo I can figure out if they're nuts or what.
23:41.57sylvanaarwell i think all my stuff got rebuilt today, so im not the culprit
23:42.07SunTsuShefki: Did you see my question about PB4 and Ghoul's Shadow Infusion earlier?
23:42.22ShefkiSunTsu: Did you see my response to you a few minutes ago?
23:42.39Shefkisylvanaar: Yeah I don't have any reason to believe it was you this time.
23:42.41SunTsuShefki: No, because my client was off, that's why I'm asking. Sorry
23:42.56ShefkiSunTsu: I don't know what is that?
23:43.16nevcairielThe problem was on wednesday, and only affected addons re-packaged within a 4 hour timespan, i kinda expected that the fixed version spread by now.
23:43.46Repo10broker-cma: 03Rabbit * r11 / (4 files in 1 directory): Drycoded localization app support.
23:43.51SunTsuShefki: DK's Ghoul has received some kind of combo point system. For unholies at least the ghoul gets Shadow Infusions, if three are full you can turn him into something else
23:44.16ShefkiSunTsu: Open a ticket for me I'll look into it.
23:44.27SunTsuShefki: Will do, thanks in advance
23:44.40Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 4.0.0.2-4-g3862c2f Heatsink.lua: [+1 commit] call SetDuration on the bar, not the old reference to it
23:44.54ShefkiSunTsu: Something that I was unaware of.  Blizzard seems to be litering everyone with new custom UI elements.
23:45.11nevcairieldo those even have a UI?
23:45.40ShefkiNext think you know if you're playing a Priest your screen will look like Hello Kity Adverture and if you're a Rogue you'll be playing Tekken Tag Tournament.
23:45.43SunTsuShefki: Yes, I know, they like to give everybody some kind of combo point system
23:45.51SunTsunevcairiel: in standard UI it does
23:45.53Shefkis/think/thing/
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23:53.10Shefkinevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/837-tw-translate-error-or-module-error/
23:53.18Repo10raid_checklist: 03Anyia3 * r41 providers.lua: * Fix for ticket #6, Prot Warrior not recognized.
23:53.34Shefkinevcairiel: I rolled back to the broken AceAddOn and I'm seeing errors like that ticket.
23:53.43nevcairielyou translate the module name o.O
23:53.46Shefkinevcairiel: So I'm guessing one of the addons he's running has a broken AceAddOn.
23:53.49Shefkinevcairiel: Nope.
23:54.26nevcairielwell where does the chinese come from then :d
23:54.54ShefkiWell we provide translations for the name of the module, we don't translate stuff internally.
23:55.21Shefkie.g. PitBull4_LeaderIcon:SetName(L["Leader icon"])
23:55.27sylvanaarshefki http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/tickets/465-cannot-find-module-highlight/
23:56.17nevcairielman i wish wowace would give me more accurate times when "3 days ago"
23:56.29Shefkinevcairiel: mouse over.
23:56.33sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/tickets/464-lua-error-even-with-latest-version/
23:56.45sylvanaarare those PB4 errors
23:57.02nevcairieldecursive seems to have the old version
23:57.16Shefkisylvanaar: Seems that someone got the fucked up AceAddOn packaged.
23:57.29sylvanaarshrugs
23:57.36nevcairielI still dont see how that error would be related to that
23:57.41ShefkiSo now everyone else is getting blammed for it.
23:57.43nevcairielmodules do get registered
23:58.00sylvanaarmaybe you are missing the module hilight
23:58.17Shefkisylvanaar: Usage: GetModule(name, silent): 'name' - Cannot find module 'Leader icon'.
23:58.27sylvanaarhrm
23:58.28nevcairielonce the library upgrades, it enables all modules again
23:58.29ShefkiI'm getting that error on my own install after everything working perfectly normal.
23:58.35nevcairielbut thats all it does.
23:58.36ShefkiUntil I installed the messed up AceAddOn-3.0
23:58.52Shefkinevcairiel: Are you accounting for Kaelten's change after yours?
23:59.04nevcairielhe just reverted mine
23:59.32nevcairielwhich didnt help much, because my change wasnt the cause of the breakage, rather that weird upgrade bug was
23:59.47ShefkiI mean r977

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