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00:19.23 | stew-a | looks like blizz are finally sending out the blozzcon barcodes, mine just arrived |
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01:48.23 | ulic | jnwhiteh: if you're still around, doesn't seem to work with the new raid frames when used in a party |
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01:56.55 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: THanks for the heads up. |
01:58.14 | arkanes | ulic: I told him that earlier and he said there were some serious problems with group headers and said FML a bunch :( |
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02:04.28 | ulic | bummer |
02:04.31 | ulic | stupid blizzard |
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02:20.22 | Shefki | ulic: From a unit frame author perspective, the new changes are good. |
02:20.33 | Shefki | ulic: Even if they cause some temporary issues. |
02:20.52 | Shefki | They resolved some real messiness with the old implementation. |
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02:26.22 | ulic | and cata is still 2 months out, I'm sure they'll work out the kinks, although I guess it's gonna break on 4.0.1 huh? |
02:28.28 | Shefki | Yes with 4.0.1 |
02:29.43 | Yssaril | does blizzard use the smae secure stuff as us in their code or do they just say that they are special and it just works for them but not us? |
02:31.10 | Shefki | Yssaril: No they do not and unit frames are not broken. |
02:31.20 | Shefki | It's just that Clique is broken with Blizzard's built in frames. |
02:31.26 | Yssaril | ahh |
02:31.56 | Shefki | The current Clique is broken for all frames but that can be fixed. |
02:32.15 | Shefki | Given that raid frames are broken for all unit frame mods without some changes... |
02:33.18 | Yssaril | what changed? |
02:38.16 | Shefki | initialConfigFunction is a restrictedenvironmentt now. |
02:38.35 | Shefki | Instead ofo just allowing property changes in combat for that frame temporarily. |
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02:45.27 | Repo | Found More files that used GetSpellInfo to pull spellid data from game. Made sure they don't ask server for IDs that don't exist in 4.0 |
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02:57.19 | Repo | - Glubtok: cleanup |
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03:24.59 | _Parnic | dangit, i have a blp file that BLPConverter on wowinterface won't convert...any other suggestions? |
03:25.42 | Torhal | _Parnic: xnview? |
03:26.00 | Parnic | xnview will convert? |
03:26.22 | Torhal | It views, I don't know if you can "Save As" or not. |
03:26.37 | Parnic | k i'll give it a shot |
03:27.48 | Mirrormn | in xnview, you go to tools->export |
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03:28.20 | Mirrormn | and thusly it will convert your blp |
03:28.52 | Torhal | Noice. |
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05:28.25 | Greltok | Is there any way to invalidate a specific AceConfigDialog control? Calling AceConfigRegistry:NotifyChange() creates a really nasty flash if the dialog is open. |
05:33.37 | Mikk | nop |
05:34.21 | Mikk | the mechanism isn't intended for dialog updating only -- it's general purpose |
05:42.43 | Torhal | Greltok: Nasty flash? |
05:43.11 | Yssaril | Torhal: he is talking about a AceConfigDialog redraw |
05:43.47 | Torhal | So hide the frame or set its alpha to 0, restore after the refresh. |
05:44.05 | Repo | 10libgratuity-3-0: 03Greltok * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix for 4.0. |
05:44.18 | Torhal | Though if the refresh takes a second it'll probably have a similar effect |
05:44.23 | Mirrormn | that sounds like a nastier flash |
05:46.12 | Greltok | Hm. Maybe I need to swap the order of something. One sec... |
05:47.01 | Yssaril | Greltok: why are you calling AceConfigRegistry:NotifyChange() anyways? |
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05:48.09 | Greltok | In the Ace3 version of Grid, Phanx modified the LDB tooltip to indicate that left clicking would toggle the frame lock. |
05:48.24 | Greltok | But didn't finish implementing it. |
05:48.51 | Greltok | So I added the requisite code, but if the config dialog is open when you click the button, the button state should reflect reality. |
05:48.58 | Yssaril | ahh so you can toggle it from within the options and the LDB tooltip and you want to keep the options uptodate? |
05:49.03 | Greltok | Aye. |
05:49.32 | Greltok | If it comes to it, I guess I can disable that when the options are open, but yuck. |
05:49.51 | Yssaril | yea not much you can do about the "flash" AceConfigRegistry:NotifyChange() basically tells aceconfig that all the old options related to your table are invalid and you are feeding new ones in |
05:50.37 | Mirrormn | I'm not an expert on Ace3 by any means |
05:50.48 | Greltok | In magic pony land, it would be nice to be able to invalidate a specific control. |
05:50.52 | Mirrormn | but from what I can gather staring at the source code occasionally |
05:50.55 | nevcairiel | usually a redraw shouldnt cause flashes |
05:51.08 | Yssaril | Greltok: but it may also be the case that you are tossing too many options on one page :) |
05:51.08 | nevcairiel | when you click any button or something, its redrawn |
05:51.11 | nevcairiel | it doesnt flash then |
05:51.34 | Greltok | Oh, the options need to be redesigned, for sure. |
05:52.09 | Mirrormn | anytime Ace3 uses a "set" callback, it redraws the current options for whatever group contained that object using, essentially, the :Open function |
05:52.10 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: it does flash sometimes when you force AceConfigRegistry:NotifyChange() |
05:52.11 | Greltok | The problem isn't the button flashing. It's sliders flashing, and a scrollbar briefly appears. |
05:52.22 | Greltok | Looks quite hideous. |
05:52.37 | Mirrormn | and :Open can be used with a given path in the options table |
05:53.06 | Mirrormn | so I think what you need to do is simply :Open your options far enough down that you're not redrawing the things that "flash" |
05:53.14 | Greltok | Interesting. |
05:53.27 | Mirrormn | but, as I previously disclaimed, I am not by any means an Ace3 expert |
05:53.34 | Mirrormn | so that could possibly just be all bullshit |
05:56.14 | nevcairiel | notifychange should just redraw the current page |
05:56.20 | nevcairiel | if it does not, could as well be a bug =p |
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05:58.30 | Mirrormn | speaking of which |
05:58.47 | Mirrormn | I actually *have* a mod that *seriously* suffers from the exact same issue that you just described |
05:59.02 | Mirrormn | so why the hell am I not trying to fix it with this method I apparently know about |
06:01.03 | Torhal | Mirrormn: I believe it's called "effort", which isn't a four-letter word, but it's four and a half... |
06:01.16 | Torhal | Alternately, you could call it "work". |
06:01.44 | Fisker | lets kill that Torhal guy |
06:01.56 | Greltok | nevcairiel: it's intended that it should redraw without the flash, then? |
06:02.13 | Torhal | compiles FiskerOS with -o12 |
06:02.16 | nevcairiel | I have never seen a flash, but sure |
06:02.37 | Fisker | you can't compile me Torhal |
06:02.39 | nevcairiel | when you change some option, it redraws as well, and probably doesnt flash |
06:02.44 | Torhal | I just optimized you away, Fisker. |
06:03.08 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: he is force changing from outside the optionwindow though |
06:03.40 | nevcairiel | ACD still knows which page is open right now |
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06:06.21 | Mikk | Greltok: the whole idea with :NotifyChange() _IS_ to force redraws of open configurations |
06:06.25 | Mikk | It's not needed at all otherwise |
06:06.39 | Mikk | So not calling :NotifyChange() when options are being displayed == duh? =P |
06:07.18 | Greltok | Yeah, but figured I'd ask. :) |
06:07.25 | Mikk | The flashing is probably due to the scrollbar magic that was added- iirc it needs an OnUpdate before it can deterimne if the scrollbar should be drawn or not |
06:07.37 | nevcairiel | stupid scroll bars |
06:07.39 | Mikk | (But nev knows better than me) |
06:07.47 | Mikk | well my solution was simple enough |
06:07.55 | Mikk | but whiny-vhaarr just wouldnt have it |
06:08.03 | nevcairiel | yeah, damn that pixel monkey |
06:08.06 | Mikk | OMG 16 UNUSED PIXELS NOT GOOD ENUF |
06:08.11 | Mikk | ~lart vhaarr |
06:08.11 | purl | runs at vhaarr with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
06:08.37 | nevcairiel | i dont remember if i really made it to expand into the unused space |
06:08.47 | Mikk | probably did |
06:08.50 | Fisker | oh u Torhal |
06:09.01 | nevcairiel | you mean because the rabbit shut up about it? :D |
06:09.07 | Mikk | mhm =) |
06:09.50 | Fisker | i will destroy you Parnic|Work |
06:10.16 | nevcairiel | the damn scroll bar is probably related to |
06:10.22 | nevcairiel | @ticket wow/ace3 165 |
06:10.22 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/tickets/165 - Drastic FPS loss under certain conditions. Reported by: stolenlegacy. Type: Defect. Updated: 23 days ago. Component: AceConfig-3.0. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Nevcairiel. Votes: +4. Comments: 5 |
06:10.24 | nevcairiel | as well ^ |
06:10.29 | Greltok | I am seeing a scrollbar flash. |
06:10.44 | Greltok | So should I commit with the flash, and chalk it up to a bug? |
06:11.02 | Torhal | Just be greatful that when you call :NotifyChange() that Fisker doesn't flash as well. |
06:11.14 | Yssaril | Greltok: i wouldn't worry about it till your done with everything else :) |
06:11.15 | Torhal | grateful, too |
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06:11.52 | nevcairiel | I was meaning to figure out why the scrollbar is so weird |
06:11.56 | nevcairiel | but its just so weird |
06:12.00 | Greltok | Well, this module is done other than that, methinks. |
06:12.04 | Mikk | Greltok: yep, not your problem, you're doing the Right Thing(tm) |
06:12.12 | Mikk | and tbh who the hell is going to notice it except for you |
06:12.12 | Greltok | Another bug: |
06:12.26 | Fisker | oh my god it's a Zarnivoop |
06:12.31 | Fisker | get him |
06:12.35 | Greltok | The currently selected option group is expanded when I call NotifyChange(). |
06:12.53 | nevcairiel | I mean the logic is pretty simple, isnt it? |
06:13.01 | nevcairiel | At first we draw with a scrollbar |
06:13.09 | Fisker | cease him |
06:13.13 | nevcairiel | If its not needed, we remove it, and draw without it again |
06:13.25 | Fisker | slap him with a rubber dildo |
06:13.41 | nevcairiel | which should under no circumstance cause it to be needed again |
06:13.43 | Torhal | Hide the scrollbar, show it if it's needed. |
06:13.47 | Fisker | dies Zarnivoop |
06:14.21 | nevcairiel | actually, yea, it starts without a scrollbar |
06:14.27 | nevcairiel | and redraws with it if needed |
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06:15.22 | Mikk | but that's being determined one OnUpdate later, right? |
06:15.34 | nevcairiel | yea, or stuff goes all wonky |
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06:15.45 | Mikk | no |
06:15.48 | Mikk | ds |
06:16.07 | nevcairiel | But if no scrollbar is needed, you shouldnt see anything |
06:16.08 | Mikk | I guess you could cache the decision for the currently-open page |
06:16.22 | nevcairiel | If it is, well, it disappears for 1 frame |
06:16.40 | nevcairiel | The widget doesnt know on what page it is |
06:16.55 | Mikk | I.e. "did we ever see the current page need a scrollbar?" if yes - always draw with scrollbar even if it shrinks |
06:17.02 | Mikk | reset the boolean when page is switched |
06:17.13 | nevcairiel | but ACD doesnt talk to AceGUI that way |
06:17.33 | Mikk | umm |
06:17.37 | Mikk | scratches head |
06:17.49 | nevcairiel | Maybe i can put it in the status table |
06:18.01 | nevcairiel | ACD should manage that per page, i think |
06:18.21 | Mikk | so wait |
06:18.25 | Mikk | who decides that the scrollbar is needed? |
06:18.32 | nevcairiel | the scrollframe container |
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06:18.46 | nevcairiel | it just checks how big the content frame is after the layouter is finished |
06:18.51 | Mikk | right |
06:18.58 | Mikk | and it has no way of knowing if it's showing "the same page" |
06:19.19 | Mikk | unless it's being told about a page name or handle or something along those lines |
06:19.47 | nevcairiel | thats where the status table could come in. I believe ACD manages that per-page to remember the scroll position you were at when switching around |
06:20.19 | Torhal | Parnic: I skinned Fisker for you. That'll be 10g. |
06:20.56 | Mikk | nevcairiel: oyea you're absolutely right about that |
06:21.05 | nevcairiel | I wish i had documented why exactly we need a OnUpdate after LayoutFinished |
06:21.12 | Fisker | why can't i die? |
06:21.13 | nevcairiel | i should test without it =p |
06:21.22 | Mikk | because positions arent computed before that? |
06:21.37 | Mikk | (when using relative positioning) |
06:21.44 | nevcairiel | but the height is usually fixed |
06:21.48 | Mikk | of course if you compute your own positions... that's beside the point |
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06:23.44 | Mikk | ouch i just thought of something |
06:23.57 | Mikk | we're making an assumption here: "the height of the dialog doesn't change" |
06:23.59 | Mikk | but it does |
06:24.08 | Mikk | standalone dialog -- user drags the corner |
06:24.16 | Mikk | or BetterBlizzOptions for that matter |
06:24.36 | Thrae | Is AceGUI still under development for Ace3? Cool. |
06:24.55 | Thrae | I thought Mikk was dead. |
06:25.21 | Mikk | Wut |
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06:25.34 | Mikk | Mikk never had anything to do with AceGUI-3 except for some initial design hints |
06:25.41 | Thrae | Killed when one of his Lua engines like Wowbench gained sentience and killed him. |
06:25.45 | Mikk | haha |
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06:26.17 | quiescens | o.O |
06:26.48 | Thrae | Mikk: Who's AceGUI-2 and 3's main developer? sylvanner? |
06:27.05 | nevcairiel | AceGUI-2 was never really worth mentioning |
06:27.40 | nevcairiel | 3 was designed by narggidley or however you spell his name (author of Waterfall for Ace2), and i basically took it over after he left |
06:27.50 | Thrae | Awww, I tried to use AceGUI-2 in TinyTipOptions and...switched to Fubar |
06:28.08 | Greltok | Anyone familiar with the changes to SecureGroupHeaderTemplate for 4.0? |
06:28.26 | nevcairiel | 2 was tem, i think |
06:28.28 | Mikk | AceGUI2 & 3 are entirely different beasts |
06:28.33 | Mikk | 2 was about "doing everything" |
06:28.34 | nevcairiel | but it was nver really functional |
06:28.35 | Mikk | 3 is about dialogs |
06:28.46 | tem | 2 was evil |
06:28.53 | Mikk | the need for 2 pretty much became nil and void with CreateFrame |
06:28.58 | tem | it needed some serious simplification |
06:29.03 | Mikk | or that |
06:29.08 | tem | 2 was based around CreateFrame |
06:29.12 | Mikk | oh? |
06:29.15 | Thrae | Tem? The clown that coded Visor? Nawwww. |
06:29.24 | Mikk | could have sworn there was a 2 before CreateFrame |
06:29.25 | tem | I didn't make Visor |
06:29.30 | Mikk | that used shitloads of XMLd frames :P |
06:29.31 | tem | I don't even remember what visor did |
06:29.36 | tem | but I'm pretty sure that was Rowne |
06:30.00 | tem | I don't think so, Mikk |
06:30.02 | Thrae | I was under the impression AceGUI-2 was initially Tem's idea then ckknight+Kaelten took it over to make it Rock-solid. |
06:30.15 | tem | AceGUI-1 defnitely used a ton of XML frames |
06:30.20 | Mikk | oh 1 |
06:30.23 | Mikk | my bad then! |
06:30.26 | tem | AceGUI-2 was my baby, and it was a rewriting of the same thing |
06:30.32 | tem | to use CreateFrame |
06:30.39 | Mikk | ok now it's making sense =) |
06:30.50 | tem | and actually be useful |
06:30.54 | tem | but it was a monster |
06:31.06 | tem | and when I realized that, I shelved it for "later" |
06:31.58 | Thrae | tem: Visor allowed you to manipulate various values for almost any frame. It was before AceGUI but after Rowne mostly disappeared from the Ace scene, if he initially made Visor. |
06:32.51 | nevcairiel | i actually managed to reproduce ace3/165 .. lets see if i can fix it <.< |
06:33.10 | tem | OH |
06:33.17 | tem | Visor was definitely a Rowne thing |
06:33.25 | tem | it used all those funny options |
06:33.33 | tem | god yes, that was a weird addon |
06:34.29 | Thrae | I remember all the addons I made. Like my first addon, where I took all of the addons I liked and re-compiled them into obsfucated strings and called it "Cosmic Addon" (later to be stolen by AnduinLothar). |
06:34.40 | Thrae | tem: Maybe I'm getting Tem confused with Tain. |
06:34.48 | tem | oh |
06:34.59 | tem | I think Tain maintained visor at one more |
06:35.01 | tem | at one point |
06:35.08 | tem | not sure if he originally wrote it or no |
06:35.21 | tem | (I'm still leaning toward rowne being the original author) |
06:35.32 | Thrae | No, I agree it was a Rowne idea, but it was called something else before Tain renamed it Visor. Can't remember... |
06:35.48 | tem | Cai<tab> wtf |
06:35.48 | Thrae | Also, Tain Ace2'd it. |
06:36.55 | Greltok | Must be off. Flight in a few hours, and I need sleep. Thanks for the help. |
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06:37.56 | Thrae | tem: Cairenn isn't in #wowace because nevcairiel keeps doing Pro-Curse-Network propaganda every 13 minutes. |
06:38.06 | nevcairiel | no true! |
06:38.11 | Shefki | ? |
06:38.12 | nevcairiel | but she used to be here |
06:38.28 | tem | I miss ##ace |
06:38.41 | tem | those were the good days |
06:39.34 | Shefki | Why the hell does doing a git pull on tekkub's wow-ui-source keep creating conflicts when all I ever do is pull. |
06:39.44 | Thrae | We should make a new Ace channel unaffiliated with anything except the Ace framework and confused card-game players! |
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06:40.28 | Thrae | It shall be #wowitsace, and neither Kaelten nor ckknight get ops. |
06:40.55 | Thrae | jnwhiteh will get ops in #wowitsace. |
06:41.00 | ckknight | DMCAs Thrae |
06:41.09 | tem | gags |
06:41.18 | nevcairiel | Shefki: maybe he rebased |
06:41.59 | Humbedooh | omgace! |
06:42.00 | Thrae | ckknight: You can have #fubar and #wowitsarock |
06:42.10 | ckknight | you're a rock. |
06:42.29 | Shefki | Thrae: You can have #deadhorse |
06:42.38 | Thrae | I live in the past :( |
06:42.42 | Shefki | Now beat it. |
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06:45.01 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r968 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIContainer-ScrollFrame.lua: |
06:45.02 | Repo | AceGUI-3.0: ScrollFrame: Allow for a small margin of error when determining if the scroll bar should be shown. |
06:45.17 | quiescens | o.O |
06:45.58 | Humbedooh | a small margin, pfft |
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06:46.20 | nevcairiel | Apparently floating point inaccuracy was biting us there =p |
06:47.22 | Humbedooh | it gets even more fun when you implement scrollbars on the horizon ;> |
06:51.35 | nevcairiel | an escrot quest where the npc jumps on his flying mount when you do = priceless |
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07:01.15 | Primer | Was there a patch today? Just trying to login for the first time today, and everything shot to shit |
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07:02.03 | nevcairiel | nop, no patch |
07:02.41 | Primer | woa, the wow website has 12/07/10 as the date |
07:02.45 | Primer | in stores |
07:03.06 | nevcairiel | its been announced on monday |
07:03.13 | Primer | I wonder if it's my network then |
07:03.24 | Primer | crap's loading slowly |
07:04.00 | Primer | trailer is loading fine |
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07:15.13 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r611 RaidWatch_Core/ (2 files in 2 directories): |
07:15.14 | Repo | - Fix GUID -> Creature ID conversion since it changes with 4.0.1. Will work on both live and PTR/Beta. |
07:16.05 | Repo | 10libmousegestures-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r23 LibMouseGestures-1.0.lua: Minor optimization. |
07:16.35 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh 06cataclysm * r21 Doodle.lua: Branching for cataclysm. |
07:17.06 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r612 RaidWatch_DebugBossMod/RaidWatch_DebugBossMod.toc: #RaidWatch_DebugBossMod |
07:17.07 | Repo | - Fix AreaID to work on beta and PTR. |
07:18.03 | Niv | hrmmm |
07:18.16 | Niv | I decided to try out Wowstead and see what it could do |
07:18.44 | Niv | and interestingly enough I've gotten a few errors about not being able to login while using armory remote or whatever |
07:18.57 | Niv | (in wow) |
07:19.49 | Niv | I thought only the remote AH functionalty caused those errors |
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07:24.13 | sbu | meh, i hate the internets, always tells me to buy new/cool gadgets :| |
07:24.39 | nevcairiel | dont listen! |
07:25.37 | sbu | it only happens when i'm asleep, cant turn away then, its evil!! |
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07:26.17 | sbu | nevcairiel: http://www.urano-shop.de/Pages/Product/Details.aspx?SubSetID=2161&ProductID=592010&ProductCategoryID=AE - router + nas ;) |
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07:27.31 | nevcairiel | i have a proper file server :p |
07:28.53 | sbu | but this board+cpi should be capable of everything internet related i "need" (even 100mbit throughput which my consumer router fails to do...) |
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07:34.45 | Mikk | my pentium90 shovels 50Mbit/s |
07:34.49 | Mikk | me>j00 |
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07:36.11 | Mikk | (yes, we're talking the CPUs that came out riiiight after 486 here :> ) |
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07:50.30 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r613 RaidWatch.toc: - Add ## X-Compatible-With: 40000 |
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08:31.10 | Repo | 10libmousegestures-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r24 LibMouseGestures-1.0.lua: Memory optimizations |
08:34.33 | mitch0 | kagaro: is your libbackdrop in its own repo or in kgpanels |
08:34.35 | mitch0 | ? |
08:35.15 | Humbedooh | own repo |
08:35.32 | Humbedooh | @project libbackdrop-1-0 |
08:35.33 | Repo | Humbedooh: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbackdrop-1-0/. LibBackdrop-1.0. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author), lilsparky (Author). Updated: 40 hours ago |
08:35.44 | jnwhiteh | ulic: arkanes: How do I reproduce your issue, can you be specific for me? |
08:35.49 | mitch0 | thanks |
08:40.35 | nevcairiel | anyone on mekkatorque have a spare character that i can use to get a raid? |
08:41.08 | nevcairiel | (alliance) |
08:41.24 | Humbedooh | sure |
08:41.27 | Humbedooh | Humbedoohtwo |
08:42.34 | nevcairiel | heh that raid control panel is kinda nifty |
08:43.16 | Humbedooh | looks like a very advanced...calculator |
08:43.30 | nevcairiel | you can even throw markers on the world from it |
08:43.35 | nevcairiel | without carrying flares all the time |
08:44.04 | Humbedooh | sweet |
08:44.07 | nevcairiel | anyhow, off to fixing my raid frames! |
08:45.30 | Humbedooh | I had some fun in ICC 25 heroics last night....main tank got so preoccupied with Doodlepad, he wiped the raid ;> |
08:45.31 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel 07cataclysm * r730 : Branch for cataclysm |
08:45.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
08:45.42 | Humbedooh | but he did make a very rude drawing about the GM |
08:46.27 | Humbedooh | also, Doodlepad = awesome for raid-wide hangman games during breaks! |
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08:48.55 | nevcairiel | hm |
08:49.02 | nevcairiel | did divine intervention get removed in cata= |
08:49.04 | nevcairiel | ? |
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08:50.36 | vhaarr | yeah |
08:51.07 | nevcairiel | thats why its erroring on the spell id :) |
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08:51.24 | Kalroth | haha |
08:51.28 | vhaarr | haha yes I am looking forward to fixing oRA3 :P |
08:51.51 | nevcairiel | should do it soon ;) |
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08:52.41 | vhaarr | ah yes, 4.0.1... |
08:52.43 | vhaarr | dies |
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08:57.10 | jnwhiteh | where do CompactPartyFrameMemberSelf and PartyMemberFrame5 come from? |
08:57.12 | jnwhiteh | anyone have any idea? |
08:58.44 | Humbedooh | you mean which xml file? |
08:59.38 | jnwhiteh | no i mean conceptually |
08:59.40 | jnwhiteh | i.e. when does that happen |
08:59.44 | jnwhiteh | and how do i reproduce it =) |
08:59.55 | nevcairiel | every group has 5 party member frames |
09:00.00 | nevcairiel | you yourself are included |
09:00.03 | nevcairiel | which is kinda neat |
09:00.17 | jnwhiteh | but I am member1 |
09:00.20 | jnwhiteh | in the compact raid frames |
09:00.26 | Mirrormn | when an xml file and a lua file love each other *very much*... |
09:00.31 | nevcairiel | then get 4 others, and you'll have 5 frames :D |
09:00.55 | asmodai | nev! |
09:01.46 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
09:06.50 | jnwhiteh | I have 5 people |
09:06.55 | jnwhiteh | but with the non-raid-style-party frames |
09:07.00 | jnwhiteh | the player isn't included |
09:07.02 | jnwhiteh | so there's only 1-4 |
09:11.27 | sbu | Mikk: 50mbit is easy, every outofthebox-router can handle that, it gets complicated close to or over 100mbit (because of 100M NICs / bus bandwidth etc.) |
09:11.40 | nevcairiel | hm jnwhiteh |
09:11.45 | nevcairiel | in your clique guide thingy |
09:11.46 | nevcairiel | header:SetAttribute("clickcast_button", self) |
09:11.49 | nevcairiel | i dont think that works |
09:11.58 | nevcairiel | attributes from secure code can't be frames, last i checked |
09:12.01 | jnwhiteh | why not? |
09:12.05 | jnwhiteh | lemme look |
09:12.11 | nevcairiel | would have to use SetFrameRef |
09:12.19 | jnwhiteh | nope |
09:12.20 | jnwhiteh | it works |
09:12.42 | jnwhiteh | =) |
09:12.52 | jnwhiteh | see HeaderTest.lua |
09:12.54 | nevcairiel | http://paste.wowace.com/2543/ |
09:13.01 | nevcairiel | whats with this function doing the type checks then? |
09:13.11 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
09:13.16 | nevcairiel | it cehcks if the frame is secure |
09:13.18 | nevcairiel | nvm then |
09:13.24 | jnwhiteh | =) |
09:13.48 | nevcairiel | so i just cant use SetAttribute to pass frame out of the restricted env |
09:15.28 | Mikk | sbu: yeah they do, but with CPUs that are several times faster |
09:15.30 | Mikk | usually ARMs |
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09:18.20 | sbu | thats why i need/want that atom thingie with dual 1G ethernet :p |
09:19.44 | Mikk | haha =) |
09:20.48 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: the registration code will get much much nicer |
09:20.54 | jnwhiteh | once I have some things i need |
09:21.00 | jnwhiteh | but they won't come until 4.1 at least |
09:22.31 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh 06cataclysm * r22 Doodle.lua: Greatly optimized texture reuse. |
09:22.32 | Repo | Changed pen color selector to use scroll wheel without modifier keys. |
09:22.33 | Repo | Changed broadcast syntax to allow for different types of commits. |
09:22.34 | Repo | Fixed an issue with resizing pads in cataclysm sometimes resulting in artifacts |
09:26.27 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: is it just me, or is there no way to get a frame reference out of the damn secure environment? |
09:27.31 | jnwhiteh | no, of course not. |
09:27.57 | nevcairiel | why not? I can't do evil things in insecure land |
09:28.04 | jnwhiteh | can't you? =) |
09:28.09 | nevcairiel | I just need some insecure code to run against the unit frame that was just created |
09:28.24 | jnwhiteh | there's a call for that |
09:28.26 | jnwhiteh | RunMethod, afaik |
09:28.28 | nevcairiel | setting up other frames and whatnot |
09:28.31 | jnwhiteh | takes arguments. |
09:28.40 | nevcairiel | yes, but all scrubed |
09:28.47 | nevcairiel | no frames |
09:29.20 | jnwhiteh | you could have an OnAttributeChanged script |
09:29.25 | nevcairiel | guess i could go with frame names |
09:29.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah that too |
09:30.34 | nevcairiel | yay it works |
09:40.59 | jnwhiteh | okay, new version of clique out |
09:41.04 | jnwhiteh | fixes issues with blizzard frames |
09:41.08 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
09:41.26 | Fisker | you're totally getting the logitech revue right? |
09:41.44 | jnwhiteh | uhh no |
09:42.09 | Fisker | i think you are |
09:42.11 | Fisker | *stares* |
09:45.56 | sbu | mhh i will if its any good, should be better than appletv |
09:46.18 | sbu | but it will take some time until its available (with proper services) in eu/germany |
09:49.25 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel 07cataclysm * r731 / (3 files in 1 directory): Basic support for 4.0 |
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09:53.06 | Fisker | sbu it'll just need a software update |
09:58.23 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh 06cataclysm * r23 Doodle.lua: |
09:58.24 | Repo | Added undo and wipe commands for both solo and collaborating doodles. |
10:02.51 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh 06cataclysm * r24 Doodle.lua: |
10:02.52 | Repo | Removed fullscreen doodle mode as it seems unnecessary now (and conflicts with the pad mode) |
10:02.53 | Repo | Fixed a coloring bug when painting target icons |
10:04.52 | Torhal | Humbedooh: You need to add an "Export to Storyboard" option... |
10:04.54 | Torhal | >.> |
10:05.08 | Humbedooh | saving and such is in the works too |
10:05.37 | Humbedooh | storyboard is a nice name for it :) |
10:05.54 | Torhal | Hehe |
10:06.03 | Humbedooh | fits the whole doodle scheme of things |
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10:14.53 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: did you get the info you needed? |
10:15.03 | jnwhiteh | yes, I think so |
10:15.10 | jnwhiteh | and I think the latest release should fix it |
10:15.14 | arkanes | hooray |
10:15.27 | arkanes | will check tonight after work |
10:16.26 | jnwhiteh | it worked on old party frames, compact party frames and the new raid frames |
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10:21.06 | arkanes | ah |
10:22.53 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: CompactRaidFrames might be LOD too? It's in its own folder under AddOns |
10:23.01 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: oh, really? |
10:23.15 | jnwhiteh | so it is. |
10:23.23 | nevcairiel | ## LoadOnDemand: 0 |
10:23.27 | nevcairiel | read tocs moar |
10:23.28 | nevcairiel | :D |
10:23.41 | arkanes | I don't have latest build unpacked yet |
10:23.51 | jnwhiteh | i'll leave it as is for now then |
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10:24.33 | arkanes | oh, I bet I can do a 10 minute run on the PTR before work, let me check there |
10:24.49 | arkanes | i was just bemoaning how long cata dungeons means I can't do them in the morning |
10:25.29 | nevcairiel | boohoo :p |
10:26.29 | arkanes | yes woe is me |
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10:29.13 | Fisker | reading the latest toc is illegal nevcairiel |
10:29.17 | Fisker | calls the cops |
10:30.29 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: is working |
10:30.34 | jnwhiteh | good |
10:32.28 | arkanes | both mouse and keyboard keybindins were all good |
10:32.53 | jnwhiteh | thanks. |
10:34.34 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh * r21 Doodle.lua: Minor optimizations for wotlk version. |
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10:52.06 | Humbedooh | hm, interesting side-effect on doodlepad-cata.. |
10:52.33 | Humbedooh | pressing both left + right mouse button makes it draw straight lines from the previous point to the current |
10:53.41 | nevcairiel | its a feature! |
10:53.46 | Humbedooh | ofc it is! |
10:53.59 | Humbedooh | a ninja moomin added it while I was making coffee |
10:57.06 | starlon | lol |
10:59.38 | Humbedooh | hm, libmg still seems to be hogging memory if the mouse is inactive |
10:59.39 | Humbedooh | >_> |
10:59.41 | Humbedooh | <_< |
11:04.25 | starlon | heh |
11:07.04 | starlon | I just wanted to mention that StarTip is also a developer's tool. ;) You can profile and debug your programs and display the information on your tooltip. It's pretty cool. It's even better with ResourceServer doing the dirty work of updating data. The debug functions help you track down memory leaks for example. |
11:07.44 | Humbedooh | I'ma gonna add a hard cap on minimum distance traveled before it captures a movement methinks |
11:08.05 | starlon | :) |
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11:13.59 | sbu | starlon: hows cpu usage compared to cowtip? (which is/was pretty high :p) |
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11:14.32 | Repo | 10libmousegestures-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r25 LibMouseGestures-1.0.lua: Moar optimizations |
11:14.53 | harl | wuff |
11:15.36 | Repo | 10fubar_moneyfu: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v1.2.3-1-g88e2e2e MoneyFu.lua: [+1 commit] Fix a nil error when loading the first time on a new day. |
11:17.14 | starlon | There's a bug in LibQtip that causes excess cpu time to be used, but it's not bad overall. Here's an in-action shot. http://i.imgur.com/YOBLj.jpg |
11:17.54 | Humbedooh | and, hrr, disregard that libmg memory stuff! ;P |
11:18.03 | starlon | hehe |
11:18.07 | Humbedooh | I _think_ I got it fixed now |
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11:18.59 | sbu | 27% is a lot, right? :p |
11:19.17 | starlon | In that screenshot StarTip's data was peaking. |
11:20.10 | starlon | That's worse case with default tooltip, plus 4 extra profiling lines. |
11:20.30 | arkanes | just don't put your mouse over anything |
11:20.33 | arkanes | then it's all good |
11:20.38 | Humbedooh | yup yup, seems to be fixed now. It has a temporary memory spike when it's running but it goes away^^ |
11:23.32 | Humbedooh | try it now, starlon :) |
11:23.50 | Humbedooh | any excess memory should be wiped by calling a garbage collect |
11:23.52 | starlon | Of course everything else is idle out of many addons. You're blowing it way out of proportion. It's absolutely amazing, however, cause when you only have StarTip running, it's 99% CPU time! |
11:24.08 | sbu | hehe well, yea |
11:24.14 | sbu | i'll give it a try then |
11:25.37 | starlon | That profiling just compares last data with current data, nothing fancy with averages or statistics or anything. |
11:36.15 | Humbedooh | hm, starlon, how many mouse gesture recorders do you have running at the same time? |
11:42.11 | starlon | Only the one, but I create a new one everytime the last expired because I couldn't get an old recorder to record a second time. |
11:42.50 | starlon | I think I mentioned that, but you couldn't reproduce it. |
11:43.06 | starlon | So it's likely me. |
11:43.46 | Humbedooh | it's only garbage though, so it's not a real issue |
11:44.10 | Humbedooh | whenever I call a garbage collect, startip's memory usage goes back to the same original value |
11:44.39 | Humbedooh | howeveeeer, I'll still look at places where I can optimize some moar |
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11:50.39 | Humbedooh | hmm, that's odd |
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11:50.47 | Humbedooh | libstub doesn't seem to work like it should |
11:50.53 | jnwhiteh | ? |
11:50.56 | jnwhiteh | that would be odd |
11:50.59 | jnwhiteh | whats the problem? |
11:51.14 | Humbedooh | shouldn't newer library revisions override old ones? |
11:51.21 | jnwhiteh | minors, yes |
11:51.26 | jnwhiteh | but all it does is give you the table back in that case |
11:51.28 | jnwhiteh | nothing is automatic |
11:51.42 | Humbedooh | ye well minor 10001 doesn't override minor 22 for some reaosn |
11:51.55 | jnwhiteh | are you positive they are both numbers, not strings? |
11:51.56 | Humbedooh | or hmm |
11:52.02 | Humbedooh | I'ma look into that |
11:52.03 | jnwhiteh | because "22" is > than "10001" as strings |
11:52.13 | Humbedooh | should be numbers, but you never know with cata! |
11:53.31 | Humbedooh | ahaaa |
11:53.45 | Humbedooh | I shall put the blame on Torhal for this |
11:53.51 | jnwhiteh | they get converted to nuymbers in the end |
11:53.57 | jnwhiteh | so what I said should not be the case |
11:54.24 | jnwhiteh | but it converts the string into a number using tonumber on the match of %d+ |
11:56.27 | Humbedooh | like I said |
11:56.31 | Humbedooh | it's Torhal's fault :) |
11:56.35 | jnwhiteh | :P |
11:57.19 | Humbedooh | sooo, I'll just leave this startip with libmg on and I'll go get something to drink - and when I come back, I expect it to still be at 4 mb usage |
11:58.04 | starlon | heh |
12:02.38 | Humbedooh | yup yup, works like a charm now |
12:03.10 | starlon | awesome |
12:03.29 | starlon | was it me? |
12:05.13 | Humbedooh | well it wasn't a leak, just garbage that accumulated |
12:05.24 | Humbedooh | but I've cut down on memory usage now |
12:08.30 | Repo | 10libmousegestures-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r26 LibMouseGestures-1.0.lua: Some final optimizations for starlon! |
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12:13.06 | mitch0 | that reminds me, I should change some string concats to setformattedtext calls in RangeDisplay |
12:19.13 | Humbedooh | zomg! |
12:19.15 | Humbedooh | 1x LibScriptableDisplayPluginTalents-1.0-14:173: attempt to compare number with string |
12:19.26 | starlon | lol |
12:19.56 | Humbedooh | I demand reimbursement! |
12:20.25 | starlon | IOU? |
12:20.44 | Humbedooh | yes you do! |
12:20.55 | Humbedooh | 2 gnomes and a piece of pie |
12:21.28 | starlon | 2 for punting and one for victory |
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12:27.18 | starlon | Yeah I have no clue what causes that. |
12:27.32 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r72 / (4 files in 1 directory): prepare for cata |
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12:35.47 | Goldelf | Heya! |
12:36.09 | starlon | I'll just have to accept that the mouse gestures feature eats up memory. :) It's a ton better though. I can live with this, albeit disabled by default. |
12:37.05 | Goldelf | My favorit SCT addon PARROT is giving me some lua error when im in arena, and it seems to happend everytime a target is low on hitpoints. Message: Interface\AddOns\Parrot\Data\CombatEvents.lua:142: Usage: GetPlayerInfoByGUID("playerGUID") |
12:37.15 | Goldelf | is this a "known" issue? |
12:38.31 | Humbedooh | it shouldn't eat up memory with the latest revision |
12:38.40 | Goldelf | or, any of you got any idea on what i can try to solve it? |
12:38.48 | Humbedooh | although, it'll use some of course between the time you start recording and the time it returns an answer |
12:40.30 | jnwhiteh | Goldelf: it seems like that line is calling GetPlayerInfoByGUID() with somethign that isnt' a GUID. |
12:41.41 | Goldelf | ok, i dont realy understand any of this programming terms, so it doesnt realy say me much im afraid :) Is it a parrot bug, or is it some secondary mod i should try install |
12:41.54 | Goldelf | realy love parrot, so i dont want to swap to SCT :< |
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12:43.36 | starlon | It's not bad. |
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12:43.54 | starlon | It's no worse than icons. |
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12:44.28 | jnwhiteh | Goldelf: its a bug in Parrot. |
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12:46.22 | Goldelf | jnwhiteh, ok, there has been no updated in a few days, but hopefully there will be one soon to fix it, had to temporarly use SCT due to arena, and i cant wait to get back to parrot :P i had it so beutifully configured! |
12:46.52 | jnwhiteh | yeah not quite sure what to tell ya1 |
12:50.08 | vhaarr | he could file a ticket |
12:51.11 | nevcairiel | speaking of, did MSBT get beta updates? |
12:53.05 | nevcairiel | Hm, i dont see updates =( |
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12:57.43 | sbu | nevcairiel: does msbt need any update? |
12:57.50 | nevcairiel | probably |
12:58.02 | nevcairiel | addons working big with spells and stuff usually always break :p |
12:58.06 | sbu | i had no problems on ptr/beta so far |
12:58.50 | sbu | apeakign of big with spells, hows bt(5??) coming along? :p yea i know "when its done..." but... :) |
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13:00.29 | nevcairiel | when its done |
13:00.34 | nevcairiel | also, not changing the name |
13:00.39 | nevcairiel | Bartender4 is Bartender4 :P |
13:01.46 | sbu | but you said it will be a complete rewrite of action stuff, right? :p |
13:01.54 | sbu | okay well, i dont care ;) |
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13:21.37 | Repo | e11f689: First implementation of LibActionButton-1.0 based buttons. |
13:21.38 | Repo | 6c257a0: Restore the XP Bar after the vehicle code moved it. |
13:21.43 | nevcairiel | sbu: there, rewrite of action stuff :p |
13:24.00 | Stanzilla | hm did they remove the overlapping nameplates option in the beta? |
13:24.37 | nevcairiel | i think i saw some complaints on the forums about that |
13:25.31 | Stanzilla | how can you play with that disabled |
13:25.40 | Stanzilla | its like plates jumping around all over your screen |
13:25.43 | Stanzilla | can't select shit etc |
13:25.44 | Stanzilla | :( |
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13:39.46 | Kaelten | hugs his cable modem |
13:39.53 | quiescens | blah |
13:39.56 | quiescens | go to sleep |
13:40.15 | Kaelten | but it's the entire wow beta in 8 mins |
13:40.35 | quiescens | sleep is good for you |
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13:42.07 | Ackis | hugs his Kaelten |
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13:45.02 | Kaelten | I already got my requisite 6 or 7 hours. |
13:45.41 | Kaelten | heya ackis |
13:45.50 | Kaelten | My cat keeps walking on the printer and hitting the copy button |
13:46.05 | quiescens | grats |
13:46.11 | Humbedooh | a copycat ;< |
13:46.13 | quiescens | do you have photocopies of your cat now? |
13:46.29 | Kaelten | lol |
13:47.51 | Ackis | lol Humbedooh |
13:47.58 | Ackis | Kaelten: be glad it isn't your dog ;) |
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13:48.05 | Ackis | does your cat go nuts when you print off stuff btw? |
13:48.11 | Kaelten | lol |
13:48.12 | Kaelten | no |
13:48.14 | Kaelten | he just stares |
13:48.22 | Ackis | ours do |
13:48.24 | Ackis | it's amusing |
13:49.59 | Ackis | hey Kaelten the humane society is giving away cats today, orange ones... want me to ship you a half dozen or so for the office? they could be office cats |
13:50.52 | Kaelten | hrm, first lets ship you here to make sure it's safe |
13:51.23 | Ackis | only if I can be an office cat |
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14:03.01 | pompy | nevcairiel: "For the time being, MSBT is in maintenance-only mode. This means I will continue to fix any issues new patches introduce, however I don't expect any new features will be added until Cataclysm." :( |
14:03.02 | Repo | 10libbabble-subzone-3-0: 03arith 043.3-release6 * r30 : Tagging as 3.3-release6 |
14:03.17 | nevcairiel | thats been on there for many month |
14:03.29 | pompy | yeahh :x |
14:03.41 | pompy | nevcairiel: get to work on mapster ;)! |
14:03.59 | nevcairiel | its not broken |
14:04.36 | pompy | well true, just the fog thing cuz it needs the data, but i guess that can wait! |
14:06.20 | nevcairiel | yeah, new zones wont come until december |
14:06.45 | pompy | wtb new beta build that fixes all the broken quests in the various zones! lol |
14:07.01 | nevcairiel | i'm stuck on a quest in uldum and on one in twilight highlands |
14:07.05 | nevcairiel | i have nothing to continue |
14:07.07 | nevcairiel | it sucks :P |
14:07.24 | pompy | yeah, im stiuck on the harrison jones one where u enter the obelisk of the stars, he disappears as u get closer to him! |
14:07.35 | nevcairiel | same problem here |
14:07.50 | nevcairiel | in twilight highlands i'm stuck on the 5th quest in the zone or something |
14:08.31 | pompy | ahh im on obsidia's quest and thats bugged once u leave the cave even if u killed her, it hten registers that u failed. gg. |
14:08.51 | pompy | and in nespirah in vahj'ir.. those quests are busted, and the mobs in there are thru the ground n stuff |
14:09.12 | nevcairiel | vashj'ir i'm done with |
14:09.27 | pompy | yeah same. the final quest was pretty cool |
14:09.56 | pompy | except when u fall out the ship thru the opening on the floor in the middle of its travel |
14:10.07 | Stanzilla | i so hate vashj'ir |
14:10.19 | nevcairiel | i hate uldum, the zone sucks |
14:10.19 | pompy | haha range issues and shit? |
14:10.30 | nevcairiel | deepholme was so awesome |
14:10.33 | nevcairiel | and then you get to uldum |
14:10.35 | nevcairiel | meh |
14:10.35 | Stanzilla | no just the whole swimming thing |
14:10.40 | pompy | the whale shark like ports u to him when u engage him |
14:10.55 | pompy | and then he eats u |
14:10.59 | Ackis | hey pompy do you like the NBA? |
14:11.05 | pompy | lol |
14:11.08 | pompy | random |
14:11.15 | nevcairiel | non-biting-act? |
14:12.02 | MindWorX` | NoBallsAnal? |
14:12.54 | Ackis | do you pompy? if so, go buy NBA 2k11 and give me the avatar code from it :P |
14:13.01 | pompy | lol |
14:13.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
14:15.39 | quiescens | o.o |
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14:18.00 | pompy | miners get a pet through mining now, lol nice |
14:18.12 | nevcairiel | its not BoP at least |
14:18.24 | nevcairiel | i can mine it on my alt and send it to my main :) |
14:18.26 | MindWorX` | What about that alchemist mount |
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14:18.42 | nevcairiel | what about it |
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14:18.48 | MindWorX` | Is it BoP? |
14:18.51 | nevcairiel | that one is bop :p |
14:18.56 | MindWorX` | *sadface* |
14:18.59 | nevcairiel | even requires alchemy to use, i think |
14:19.10 | MindWorX` | Likely |
14:19.19 | nevcairiel | like tailor or engineering mounts |
14:19.19 | MindWorX` | Wouldn't want people to switch professions and still have an awesome mount :P |
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14:37.21 | Kaelten | ugh my monitor didn't got to sleep last night |
14:37.29 | Kaelten | and now I have a little bit of burn in |
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14:37.36 | Kaelten | hopefully it'll go away |
14:37.46 | Stanzilla | I had to cure mine for 4 days |
14:37.51 | Stanzilla | to get rid of burned stuff |
14:38.05 | Kaelten | cure? |
14:38.12 | Stanzilla | yeah there are tools for it |
14:38.35 | Parnic|Work | http://www.jscreenfix.com/ |
14:38.36 | Stanzilla | i used jscreenfix and a white background |
14:38.38 | Stanzilla | yup |
14:39.00 | Repo | 10doodlepad: 03Humbedooh 06cataclysm * r25 Doodle.lua: Added a text feature for adding plain text to a doodle. |
14:43.32 | Humbedooh | so, now I just need to add that storyboard thing and it's all done, yay |
14:44.27 | Kaelten | I'll have to do that when I'm not working on addons |
14:44.31 | Kaelten | and I can't really see it unless I'm in wow |
14:46.22 | nevcairiel | you're working on addons again? |
14:46.28 | nevcairiel | you still know how? |
14:46.36 | Kaelten | :P |
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14:47.59 | Kaelten | trying to say somethin! |
14:48.35 | Humbedooh | pats Kaelten |
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14:52.16 | Goldelf | profalbert, ckknight, any of you here? |
14:53.13 | profalbert | here |
14:55.11 | Goldelf | hey profalbert, you seen the new comments on parrot on curse.com about the lua error? |
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14:55.48 | Goldelf | i had to swap to SCT temporarly since i always get the lua error when my target is on low HP in arena |
14:56.02 | Goldelf | any clues on a fix for it? or a workaround? |
14:56.28 | vhaarr | Goldelf: http://www.wowace.com/addons/parrot/tickets/ |
14:56.46 | nevcairiel | you're such a mean bunny |
14:57.51 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: read what he wrote there; "you seen the new COMMENT...", god I hate those project comments :P |
14:58.09 | vhaarr | I was just pointing him in the right direction, which I THOUGHT I did earlier |
14:58.17 | vhaarr | but guess I wasn't being direct enough then |
14:58.26 | vhaarr | <Goldelf> jnwhiteh, ok, there has been no updated in a few days, but hopefully there will be one soon to fix it, had to temporarly use SCT due to arena, and i cant wait to get back to parrot :P i had it so beutifully configured! |
14:58.27 | vhaarr | <jnwhiteh> yeah not quite sure what to tell ya1 |
14:58.27 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> he could file a ticket |
14:58.59 | nevcairiel | well he did reach one of the authors :) |
14:59.14 | vhaarr | fucking comments |
14:59.19 | vhaarr | should I buy this? http://www.webkjop.net/users/webkjp_mystore_no/images/290__sim803_1.jpg |
14:59.22 | nevcairiel | i dont read them |
14:59.36 | nevcairiel | looks cool |
14:59.57 | vhaarr | I wonder if it would be a good gift for my little brother, he's like ... |
15:00.01 | vhaarr | 20-something |
15:00.50 | vhaarr | problem is if the printing on the bottle/glasses will last or not |
15:01.02 | vhaarr | it's /probably/ not properly engraved for 30 EUR :P |
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15:01.24 | vhaarr | if it's a crappy sticker thing then no thanks |
15:02.04 | Goldelf | profalbert, did you catch what i wrote to you? :P |
15:02.26 | profalbert | i'm looking at the comment right now |
15:02.29 | Repo | 10rw2: 03kagaro * r615 RaidWatch_Tracker (2 files in 2 directories): Drycode bug fixes for creation when in a raid only |
15:02.36 | profalbert | it's strange |
15:02.55 | profalbert | I think it may occur in battlegrounds too |
15:03.15 | vhaarr | Goldelf: you can play this http://www.webkjop.net/users/webkjp_mystore_no/images/354_bb_tradesales_pottyfisher_3_1.jpg while you wait for him to read your comment |
15:04.24 | profalbert | Goldelf: I'll get to it in about 5 hours |
15:04.29 | profalbert | fixing it, that is ;) |
15:04.36 | Goldelf | profalbert, yea i cant recall getting it in battlegrounds tho |
15:04.59 | Goldelf | but, i know for a fact, that i always get it in arena, WHEN my enemey target is very low on hitpoints and about to die |
15:05.39 | Goldelf | profalbert, ok awsome! hope it will go smooth, cant wait to get it installed again, i feel handycapped without |
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15:06.33 | profalbert | Goldelf: a temporary workaround would be to disable the "Hide Realm" option |
15:07.05 | Goldelf | awsome! i will try that out in a few minutes |
15:08.17 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.19-1-ge209fe2 Data/CombatEvents.lua: [+1 commit] drycode-fix for lua-error in arena |
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15:08.28 | Stanzilla | fast 5 hours |
15:08.32 | profalbert | heh |
15:09.13 | Humbedooh | aaw, if only next wotlk patch would be the 5th revision |
15:09.18 | Humbedooh | then it'd be build 12345 |
15:09.50 | Parnic|Work | that's the combination on my luggage |
15:11.52 | profalbert | Goldelf: however, a combatlog would be awesome. Wondering what's going on there. Maybe they skip GUIDs in the combatlog in arena... sometimes... |
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15:17.11 | Repo | 1cd64f0: Small fixes. |
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15:17.53 | Repo | 9c925f9: Apply our color and range configuration to the LAB-1.0 buttons. |
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15:37.48 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libactionbutton-1-0/. LibActionButton-1.0. Nevcairiel (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
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15:43.23 | nevcairiel | sbu: test the cataclysm branch of bartender, it uses the new action code thingy, and should work like .. 95% :P |
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15:50.34 | Repo | 10gnome-interrupted: 03Humbedooh * r3 Gnome.lua: And now there's a frame! |
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15:52.03 | durcyn | @describe gnome-interrupted |
15:52.04 | Repo | durcyn: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnome-interrupted/. Gnome Interrupted. Visual interrupt monitor |
15:52.24 | Humbedooh | just something I'm doodling for a guild member :) |
15:52.47 | Humbedooh | he wants an all-purpose spell interrupt monitor thingymajig that doesn't just react to rogue kicks |
15:53.04 | durcyn | no, it's just that i put one together a few years ago, guess i should make sure it still works |
15:53.41 | durcyn | your name's better though |
15:55.00 | durcyn | also, variable length cooldowns for skull bash is going to make it a bit obnoxious |
15:55.41 | nevcairiel | how is the cooldown determined? |
15:55.45 | durcyn | talent-based |
15:55.56 | nevcairiel | thats not too bad then |
15:56.12 | nevcairiel | better then something totally random =P |
15:58.31 | Goldelf | woot, parrot fixed, time to update :D |
15:58.35 | Goldelf | *cheers* |
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16:37.45 | Torhal | There's a bug in LibQtip that causes excess cpu time to be used, but it's not bad overall. <-- huh? Ticket? |
16:38.15 | Torhal | Humbedooh: I'd argue that "excess garbage" is, indeed, a memory leak. Just because the GC facility gathers it doesn't mean it isn't leaking. |
16:38.30 | pompy | ~seen tuller |
16:38.36 | purl | tuller <~Tuller@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 19h 47m 45s ago, saying: 'yep, those are the events'. |
16:38.45 | Torhal | starlon: Forgot to address you when asking about LibQTip, read three lines up |
16:39.26 | Humbedooh | it wasn't a leak as every single bit it stored in memory was needed for its operations |
16:39.58 | nevcairiel | A pipe is still leaking even if you put a bucket below it, you mean? :p |
16:40.08 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Exactly! |
16:40.20 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Oh, so you weren't being as efficient as you could be. |
16:40.30 | Torhal | Gotcha |
16:40.31 | Humbedooh | but I can only speak for libmousegestures - I have no idea what he uses it for :p |
16:40.37 | Torhal | Hehe |
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16:42.29 | Humbedooh | I think the main issue is he has libmousegestures capture stuff even when startip isn't visible |
16:42.42 | Humbedooh | so basically it'll capture all mouse movements ever made in the game |
16:42.53 | Humbedooh | and that's a lot of coordinates to parse :> |
16:43.15 | Torhal | Indeed. |
16:43.45 | Humbedooh | I tried just having my mouse over the game menu mini icon - which shouldn't trigger any mouse capture - and it still kept on using memory |
16:44.14 | Humbedooh | so my guess would be that it's just running full-time and re-recording whenever it stops |
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16:49.11 | Goldelf | profalbert, hey, i posted a ticket about the parrot issue i have after the updated version you posted a hour ago or so |
16:49.21 | Goldelf | profalbert, need anymore info? |
16:50.19 | profalbert | Goldelf: thanks a lot for the details. I think that should be it for now. |
16:50.52 | profalbert | However. next time use "/combatlog" to create a combatlog. It generally contains more details relevent for development. |
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16:51.04 | Goldelf | ah, i will |
16:51.23 | Goldelf | i can relog after raid and upload a combatlog file |
16:51.47 | Goldelf | since its just to shadow word death the dummie to reproduce, it should be quite easy :P |
16:52.06 | profalbert | Goldelf: No need, I have a priest too, that I can test with. |
16:52.09 | profalbert | but thanks |
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17:10.01 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/recommended-browsers/ by funkydude |
17:11.15 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/recommended-browsers/ by funkydude |
17:11.52 | Ackis | Funkeh`: second update was me, I just turned off comments for the page |
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17:12.04 | Funkeh` | was wondering wtf... |
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18:23.19 | Niv | Kaelten: who runs/codes wowstead? |
18:23.58 | Humbe^ICC | curse! |
18:24.08 | Niv | :P |
18:24.26 | Ackis | there's a bunch of devs on it niv |
18:25.08 | Niv | do they have an IRC home? |
18:25.20 | Niv | I like where it's headed, but have things I'd like ;) |
18:25.38 | Ackis | there's a ticket tracker and some of them are in here actually |
18:25.49 | Fisker | Ackis is a jerk for example |
18:25.54 | Fisker | and i'm not |
18:26.04 | Megalon | Stay connected with breakthrough communication |
18:26.07 | Ackis | I don't think there's an official IRC channel for wowstead however |
18:26.12 | Megalon | did they hire the apple marketing department? :D |
18:26.28 | Megalon | or are PMs considered breakthroughs |
18:26.57 | Ackis | maybe on quakenet actually |
18:27.00 | Torhal | Megalon: Clearly, you're overlooking the telepathy interface. |
18:27.24 | Fisker | hey emg |
18:27.25 | Fisker | meg |
18:27.27 | Fisker | Megalon |
18:27.28 | Fisker | hey |
18:27.32 | Megalon | hey |
18:27.36 | Megalon | sif |
18:27.36 | Megalon | fis |
18:27.38 | Megalon | Fisker |
18:27.49 | Fisker | why so mean Megalon? |
18:27.57 | Fisker | i almost puked |
18:28.01 | Megalon | why so retarded Fisker? |
18:28.02 | Fisker | and then you're making fun of me |
18:28.17 | Megalon | oh, it's inherent |
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19:26.19 | Axodious | wow |
19:26.24 | Axodious | 75% additional threat? |
19:26.28 | Axodious | (to tanks on ptr) |
19:26.46 | Fisker | ok |
19:26.52 | Axodious | i knew threat was iffy on the beta, didn't think it was that bad |
19:27.22 | kagaro | well with proc based threat mechanics unluky string and you would lose threat |
19:27.51 | Axodious | then fix the proc rate :s |
19:27.59 | Axodious | paladin grand crusader is sooo low |
19:28.09 | kagaro | runic empowerment is 45% |
19:28.16 | Axodious | not to mention there's talk that at the moment it's a dps loss to use it |
19:28.41 | Axodious | GC is 20% |
19:28.43 | Axodious | atm kagaro |
19:29.02 | kagaro | i play a tank not dps |
19:29.10 | Axodious | that is tank |
19:29.17 | Axodious | dps loss = tps loss |
19:29.21 | Axodious | same thing for a tank |
19:29.37 | Axodious | grand crusader resets the cooldown on avengers shield |
19:29.42 | kagaro | no they changed runestrike so no longer avoidance based for tank presence just RP |
19:30.03 | kagaro | so for me RE is bonus not a tps loss |
19:30.17 | kagaro | <— no idea on paladin mechanics |
19:30.19 | Axodious | i dont play a dk enough to understand |
19:30.21 | Axodious | rofl |
19:30.29 | kagaro | never played a pally |
19:30.32 | Axodious | im glad we're on the same page :P |
19:30.37 | durcyn | wait, they gave prot paladins a sword and board talent? how fucking original |
19:30.47 | Axodious | yes durcyn |
19:31.07 | kagaro | most of the tanking talents seem to be duplicated across classes now |
19:31.10 | Axodious | with this threat change specifically for paladins it seems they are going in 2 different directions now :S |
19:32.03 | Axodious | though can't say much about it atm, the devs just recently started listening to the community a lot more about it |
19:32.22 | Axodious | ghostcrawler had some huge talk in a thread |
19:33.13 | Axodious | wonder if they are pushing 4.0.1 this week still with the ptr push again |
19:34.17 | Axodious | though it does seem more like touch ups than anything else |
19:35.19 | durcyn | they've got two months of wiggle room |
19:37.14 | Axodious | i wonder if they'll cave about the tank damage problems at 80 |
19:37.29 | arkanes_ | 3 second CS cooldown should make the pally rotation feel a lot better |
19:37.38 | Axodious | i agree arkanes |
19:37.44 | arkanes_ | with that I don't think there's a need to buff GC |
19:37.58 | Axodious | have you been reading the theorycraft on maintankadin? |
19:38.02 | arkanes_ | no |
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19:38.20 | arkanes_ | its hard to imagine how GC can be a DPS loss when the alternative to using it is doing nothing though |
19:38.35 | Axodious | there's a new theoretical 939 |
19:38.43 | Axodious | lemme find it... |
19:40.44 | Axodious | ugh i've missed some of the discussion (thread goes by so fast) |
19:40.59 | Axodious | here's the last model i saw by knaughty |
19:41.03 | Axodious | SD>ShoR>CS>J>AS>Cons>HW |
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19:41.08 | Axodious | SD = sacred duty proc |
19:41.23 | arkanes_ | is SD what gives the GC proc? |
19:41.38 | Axodious | no it's the judgement one that makes shor a crit |
19:41.46 | arkanes_ | oh I forgot that still existed |
19:41.55 | arkanes_ | I probably should take advantage of it :P |
19:42.06 | Axodious | they completely skip GC the talent |
19:42.13 | Axodious | Skip Grand Crusader. Ignore Sacred Duty. Just mindlessly hammer out 939. It's the #2 rotation on Theck's list, and 5 paltry DPS behind SD-priority-with-Consecration-filler (which might require talent support due to mana issues). |
19:42.35 | Axodious | er blah |
19:42.37 | arkanes_ | well it seems unlikely they'll let that stand |
19:42.38 | Axodious | im mixing things up |
19:42.45 | arkanes_ | does this take the new higher mana cost CS into consideration? |
19:42.48 | Axodious | yeah that's what everyone says |
19:42.54 | arkanes_ | I wasn't able to maintain using consc on cooldown |
19:43.07 | Axodious | i'm not sure to be honest |
19:43.13 | arkanes_ | oh I didn't glyph it though |
19:43.15 | arkanes_ | maybe they assume that |
19:43.39 | Axodious | there's also ShoR>CS>J>AS>HW |
19:43.42 | Axodious | thats the 2nd one |
19:43.47 | Axodious | which fits the quote i just posted |
19:43.56 | arkanes_ | the thing is, I'm not sure how they'd nerf this while not making us totally reliant on GC procs |
19:44.16 | Axodious | this is why gc doesnt belong in a paladin tree :P |
19:44.16 | arkanes_ | you know what weapon speed they're modelling with? Or you could just give me a link :P |
19:44.40 | Axodious | well, here's the thread though it's pretty big: http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?f=41&t=29138&rb_v=viewtopic&start=1200 |
19:44.49 | Axodious | there was some talk about using a 2.6 |
19:44.54 | Axodious | and stacking haste for reckoning |
19:45.20 | arkanes_ | there's pretty much 0 reason to use a fast weapon for any tank class anymore |
19:45.36 | arkanes_ | optimal reckoning usage yeah |
19:45.51 | arkanes_ | but it's not hard to get to 2.0 |
19:46.19 | Axodious | they stopped doing the sims recently cause ppl were posting it on the official forums |
19:46.36 | Axodious | not understanding that this is all theoretical atm |
19:46.45 | arkanes_ | well people are stupid |
19:46.48 | Axodious | mhmm |
19:46.49 | arkanes_ | especially wow forum posters |
19:47.19 | arkanes_ | how dumb do you have to be to think that Blizzard is "looking for an excuse to nerf warrior dps" |
19:47.31 | Axodious | lol |
19:50.25 | Axodious | tbh though no matter how we look at paladin tanking right now it's still pretty up in the air S |
19:50.26 | Axodious | :S |
19:50.34 | Axodious | especially with the threat change |
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19:51.08 | arkanes_ | 75% more threat for everyone sounds excessive |
19:51.23 | Axodious | that's what i thought |
19:51.25 | arkanes_ | but some of that might just be tooltip fixes and stuff, I know they were still in the process of removing all the passive reductions |
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19:51.49 | Axodious | i think at least some of it is an actual threat boost |
19:51.54 | Axodious | there was a blue poster commenting on it |
19:51.58 | arkanes_ | woof big boost to holy throughtput |
19:52.02 | arkanes_ | yeah GC said they would probably do that |
19:52.24 | arkanes_ | the biggest weakness I felt in threat was in that 18 seconds I was waiting to get a shor off |
19:52.26 | nevcairiel | They'll use the time on live to try to tweak some things for cata |
19:52.30 | Axodious | i'm still afraid of getting stuffed into an offtank roll with some weird WoG spec |
19:52.51 | arkanes_ | WoG + protector of the innocent is really good |
19:52.55 | nevcairiel | People that bother to cry about their performance in ICC don't understand what the next two month are about =p |
19:52.58 | Axodious | yeah, almost too good |
19:53.08 | arkanes_ | I expect PoI to get nerfed actually |
19:53.18 | Axodious | hope so |
19:53.21 | arkanes_ | it's stupidly good for holy, and it's going to be amazingly dominating in PVP |
19:53.26 | Axodious | it's that shield that makes it too good |
19:53.37 | Axodious | er |
19:53.38 | arkanes_ | you think holy pallies keeping themselves up with just holy shock is bad *now* |
19:53.42 | Axodious | i think im thinking of the wrong talent |
19:53.55 | arkanes_ | poi heals you for 5k any time you cast a targetted heal |
19:54.17 | Axodious | im thinking of guarded by the light |
19:54.31 | arkanes_ | I've holy-tanked instance bosses with holy shock, word of glory, and protector of the innocent |
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19:55.09 | Axodious | with those 3 talents for a prot tank, they get a 3 hp wog that procs eternal glory |
19:55.11 | Axodious | they heal themselves up |
19:55.14 | Axodious | then put a shield on |
19:55.21 | Axodious | not to mention it could proc again |
19:55.32 | arkanes_ | yeah I put it in my prot spec, haven't had a chance to try it in action yet though |
19:55.44 | Axodious | im lvling with most of the wog talents |
19:55.46 | Axodious | its op |
19:55.48 | arkanes_ | if you don't need the threat from shor its hard to imagine how it's not superior |
19:56.05 | Axodious | i can grab ~3 adds easily |
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20:00.35 | Axodious | anyway |
20:00.37 | Axodious | going out |
20:00.37 | Axodious | bbl |
20:03.29 | Pneumatus | hmm, WoW is unable to write files bigger than 4.1Gb :< |
20:04.35 | durcyn | your filesystem sucks! |
20:05.23 | Pneumatus | nah, ntfs, which means it must be WoW |
20:05.33 | arkanes_ | unsurprising |
20:05.37 | arkanes_ | wow is a 32 bit app |
20:05.49 | arkanes_ | and offset_t is scary and new! |
20:07.12 | Pneumatus | i just realised i havnt had any combat log since the middle of last month because i forgot to rotate my log :< |
20:11.04 | nevcairiel | WoW should really offer a facility to rotate them on a daily basis by itself |
20:11.14 | nevcairiel | i dont know how often i've had to manually split a way too big log |
20:11.47 | nevcairiel | Or tiemstamp them whenever /combatlog is called |
20:11.50 | nevcairiel | just something useful |
20:11.58 | durcyn | one per session, timestamped with the start date |
20:12.05 | durcyn | done, the end |
20:13.02 | durcyn | or better yet, add an arg to the function to start a new file |
20:14.07 | nevcairiel | thats too smart |
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20:18.37 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: The world of logs client offers a splitting/rotating feature |
20:18.57 | nevcairiel | Even that one started to choke with 2gb+ files |
20:18.57 | Antiarc | It's not a perfect solution but it's good enough |
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20:19.06 | Antiarc | Get more RAM! :P |
20:19.11 | nevcairiel | I have enough |
20:19.23 | nevcairiel | i could fit the log 3 times in there and still have my OS running |
20:20.05 | ulic | Antiarc: I assume they are but are the ip's used for mmo-mumble.com static, in other words can I point my open dns entry at the ip that west2.mmo-mumble.com uses? |
20:21.08 | Antiarc | ulic: Yup |
20:21.15 | Antiarc | Or just set up a cname |
20:21.28 | Antiarc | (which is probably safer, but won't matter in practicality) |
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20:21.49 | ulic | hmm, good idea |
20:22.05 | Pneumatus | i split logs with a grep script, when i remember |
20:22.19 | Antiarc | I usually grep out today's date before doing a parse |
20:22.32 | Antiarc | grep "10/6" WoWCombatLog.txt > today.log |
20:22.44 | Antiarc | Parse that and go on my merry way |
20:22.49 | durcyn | I spent two years doing logs, on three or four sites. clear it before, rotate it after, rinse, repeat |
20:23.01 | durcyn | Antiarc: raids sometimes cross midnight :< |
20:23.21 | Antiarc | Get a better timezone! :P |
20:23.29 | durcyn | central owns, okay |
20:24.04 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
20:24.08 | Fisker | getting some logitech revue? |
20:24.13 | Antiarc | eh? |
20:24.29 | Fisker | i.e. google tv |
20:24.34 | Antiarc | Oh. Maybe. |
20:24.40 | durcyn | you should get the sony gtv, Fisker |
20:24.46 | Antiarc | All the TV I watch is on Netflix and Hulu and my xbox does that already |
20:24.54 | Fisker | baw Antiarc |
20:25.06 | Axodious | if it wasn't for the fact that it's a pain to use your iphone as a remote control i would almost by it just for that |
20:25.13 | Axodious | but i've already got a harmony 880 |
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20:30.44 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r122 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed hiding spells, when I don't have a reagent for it |
20:30.44 | Repo | - added option to announce, when casting portal |
20:39.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2836 Core (2 files in 1 directory): - fix Quicklook bugs |
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20:48.04 | Yssaril_android | ~ping |
20:48.04 | purl | ~pong |
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20:49.24 | Xinhuan | ~pong |
20:49.24 | purl | ~ping |
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20:59.25 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 07Cata * r759 / (45 files in 9 directories): |
20:59.26 | Repo | Added some of my notes/comments just in case anyone decides to help me |
20:59.34 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.19-3-ga5e2161 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
20:59.35 | Repo | a5e2161: fix lua-error with shadow Word: Death |
20:59.36 | Repo | 3812c16: Revert "drycode-fix for lua-error in arena" |
20:59.47 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.19a * a2ebf9a /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.19a |
21:03.43 | Repo | 10dualspec-profiles: 03profalbert 04v0.1-beta * 694de8c /: [new tag] tag as v0.1-beta |
21:04.48 | durcyn | Kaelten: is repo's rdns ever going to be fixed? >_> |
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21:12.30 | Repo | 10broker-windowed-mode: 03Morsker * r16 Broker_WindowedMode.lua: changes for 4.0's video settings |
21:16.10 | Niv | strange, I'm suddenly getting phising emails to 3 seperate email addresses that I use only for those sites. Curse, wowhead, and elitistjerks |
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21:24.25 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r35 Breakables.lua: |
21:24.26 | Repo | - drycode attempt at creating one bar per profession for the case where someone has some combination of inscription, enchanting, and jewelcrafting. not tested in game at all |
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21:30.09 | Repo | 10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r16 / (2 files in 2 directories): Cleaned up code. Added right click for options. |
21:39.43 | Connor1 | Macro question |
21:39.52 | Connor1 | #showtooltip |
21:40.08 | Connor1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:40.16 | Connor1 | How do I get the power word: shield to be mouseover? |
21:40.37 | Connor1 | Nevermind |
21:40.41 | Connor1 | I'll bind holy fire when I get it to another key |
21:40.45 | nebula | ,@target=mouseover |
21:40.52 | nebula | erm |
21:40.57 | nebula | lol @mouseover |
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21:42.44 | Connor1 | nebula how would I add a mouseover to that macro for power word: shield, but not holy fire? |
21:43.04 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
21:43.06 | Stanzilla | [@mouseover,modfier:shift] |
21:43.10 | Connor1 | :o |
21:43.12 | Connor1 | Thanks |
21:43.14 | Stanzilla | *i |
21:43.14 | Stanzilla | ! |
21:43.42 | nebula | i just use mod: since i misspell that every other time i type it, lol |
21:46.24 | Connor1 | nebula I have another challenge |
21:46.37 | Connor1 | Having a macro be mouseover but also being able to cast normally with it. |
21:46.54 | nebula | [@mouseover,help][] Spell |
21:47.05 | Connor1 | ... |
21:47.06 | Connor1 | What |
21:47.12 | Connor1 | And with a shift modifier? |
21:47.25 | nebula | just add mod:shift |
21:47.43 | Connor1 | So I can mouseover one person and cast on the person I have already targeted with that? |
21:47.56 | nebula | yes |
21:48.01 | Connor1 | That's neat |
21:48.01 | nebula | it'll try the mouseover first |
21:48.32 | nebula | then fallback to default targeting, being cast on someone you have targeted or give you the click cast cursor |
21:48.36 | Connor1 | nebula the second [] is required, right? |
21:49.00 | nebula | its the same as /cast [modifier:shift,@mouseover] Power Word: Shield; Power Word: Shield; Holy Fire |
21:49.26 | nebula | (assuming that was the case) |
21:49.30 | Connor1 | nebula |
21:49.30 | Connor1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:49.32 | Connor1 | It didn't work |
21:49.36 | nebula | would prolly want a [help] instead of empty |
21:50.01 | Connor1 | So I'd put help in the empty box? |
21:50.13 | nebula | oh, i'm silly, you want it to be on shift still, yea? |
21:50.19 | Connor1 | Yes |
21:50.40 | nebula | so /cast [modifier:shift,@mouseover,help][mod:shift] Power Word: Shield; Holy Fire |
21:51.07 | Connor1 | Than kyou |
21:51.09 | Connor1 | Thank* |
21:51.10 | Connor1 | Testing |
21:51.49 | Connor1 | nebula it doesn't work |
21:51.56 | Connor1 | Yes it does |
21:51.56 | Connor1 | Nevermidn |
21:51.57 | Connor1 | Lol |
21:51.59 | Connor1 | Nevermind* |
21:52.08 | Connor1 | Thank you for your help |
21:52.14 | nebula | np |
21:53.30 | Connor1 | nebula |
21:53.33 | Connor1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:53.38 | Connor1 | Does not work on my target not mousedover |
21:53.58 | nebula | in that case, just add the empty braces |
21:54.13 | Connor1 | Okay |
21:54.28 | nebula | #showtooltip |
21:54.33 | nebula | <PROTECTED> |
21:54.45 | nebula | variant of that is what i use for everything |
21:54.54 | nebula | renew, pom, poh, pws |
21:55.01 | Connor1 | Thank you |
21:55.04 | Connor1 | nebula |
21:55.08 | Connor1 | I have the BoA cloth shoulders/chest |
21:55.10 | Connor1 | Dunno which one to get nexts |
21:55.14 | Connor1 | Next* |
21:55.35 | nebula | what do you mean? |
21:55.46 | Connor1 | Which BoA to get next |
21:55.56 | nebula | isn't a weapon the only boa item left? |
21:56.09 | Niv | trinkets |
21:56.15 | nebula | ah yea |
21:56.37 | nebula | the mana back is nice, i'd prolly do that next |
21:56.37 | Parnic|Work | i've never been a fan of the 'on kill, gain small% resource' items myself |
21:56.41 | nebula | hehe |
21:56.52 | nebula | everything is trivial leveling |
21:57.05 | nebula | so once you have % exp bonus, doesn't really matter |
21:57.20 | Niv | 2xSP trinket was awesome on my boomkin |
21:57.25 | Niv | pull big packs, aoe down |
21:57.26 | Niv | win |
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22:00.28 | arkanes_ | I found the mana/health regen made a pretty big difference in the mid levels between when you lose the low level super-regen and when you start gaining your high quality regen abilities |
22:01.21 | Galvin | is there a statusbar lib out there that doesn't stretch the texture as it fill for 4.0? |
22:09.04 | Connor1 | arkanes_ I should get the mana trinket then? |
22:09.26 | arkanes_ | Connor1: I have it and am glad I did |
22:09.34 | Connor1 | Okay |
22:09.36 | arkanes_ | Connor1: you can of course make up your own mind :) |
22:09.38 | Connor1 | What's the name of it again? |
22:09.44 | arkanes_ | something eye of the beast |
22:10.06 | Connor1 | Discerning Eye of the Beast |
22:10.20 | Connor1 | arkanes_ do I have to be the one getting the killing blow? |
22:10.28 | arkanes_ | yes |
22:10.35 | Connor1 | Dumb |
22:10.42 | Connor1 | I'm leveling with a friend |
22:10.43 | Connor1 | Soooo |
22:10.48 | arkanes_ | yeah not as good then |
22:10.54 | Connor1 | Weapon then maybe lol |
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22:18.22 | Hirsute | Hey Shadowed: Will any of your addons be updated for Cata, or are you retiring? |
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22:25.02 | ulic | good question |
22:33.43 | ulic | heard something that might indicate he's not going to |
22:37.28 | jnwhiteh | Contest to design the new Clique icon w/ a fabulous prize for the winner: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=208301#post208301 |
22:37.52 | arkanes_ | I liked your pseudo-smalltalk mouse |
22:40.33 | jnwhiteh | which one? |
22:45.30 | ulic | so you believe it will work with raid style party frames now? |
22:46.08 | arkanes_ | ulic: I tested it yesterday, was working for me |
22:46.16 | arkanes_ | or I geuss this morning |
22:46.52 | ulic | yea, with the 0.6.1 release probably, I was using the 0.6.0 |
22:47.11 | ulic | .1 was released while I was in bed, now I'm at work :) |
22:47.32 | arkanes_ | jnwhiteh: the mouse you had reminded me of the icon for squeak smalltalk |
22:47.45 | jnwhiteh | hehe =) |
22:47.49 | jnwhiteh | I like that image |
22:48.03 | jnwhiteh | I'm not positive whether I can alter it the way I want |
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23:37.00 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn * r11 WeakAurasOptions/WeakAurasOptions.lua: |
23:37.00 | Repo | Aura inputs now accept incorrect capitalization, partial matches, and spell ids |
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23:37.03 | Repo | Aura, item, and spell inputs no longer accept incorrect inputs |
23:38.25 | Repo | 10libunitcontrol-1-0 (experimental): 03Draake * r19 LibUnitControl-1.0/LibUnitControl-1.0.lua: |
23:38.26 | Repo | Updated aura/mod events. Triggers on aura gains/loses for all common unit ids. |
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23:41.35 | Repo | 10weakauras: 03Mirrormn 041.0.1b * r12 : Tagging as 1.0.1b |
23:41.36 | Repo | - Aura, item, and spell input fields are more forgiving and more interactive |
23:41.37 | Repo | - Item input fields now accept item links |
23:42.12 | leech2k | Someone has copied my mod (which isn't bad), but now they keep trolling my mod with comments like "This is a ripoff from Killshot: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/killshot.aspx" Any suggestions of how to fix this? |
23:42.18 | leech2k | Their name seems very bot like. |
23:43.28 | Mirrored | "NO, I will not change the license of Killshot because then naabs like you would copy my addon and then say you made it. " |
23:43.46 | Mirrored | apparently you're a "naab" so I don't think I can trust anything you say |
23:44.18 | leech2k | hmm |
23:44.32 | leech2k | Funny see as how his mod is a direct copy of my mode a bunch of version back. |
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23:44.57 | Mirrored | looks like you've got a good 3 months of release time on him, though |
23:46.15 | leech2k | Actually since I was in the original wowace svn before all the changeover stuff I probably have a lot longer than that. |
23:49.52 | leech2k | Wow, this guy actually called me a noob for cloning his addon.... |
23:50.27 | Gnarfoz | he did? I thought he called you a naab |
23:50.33 | leech2k | Both. |
23:50.41 | Mirrored | well he makes a strong argument "why is my addon called Killshot and your's dG Killshot? Why didn't you name it Killshot in the first place? It looks like you copied my addon." |
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23:51.00 | Mirrored | you're obviously guilty because he used a simpler name |
23:51.02 | leech2k | dG is my guild. |
23:51.25 | Mirrored | I also like how he speaks "on behalf of everyone here on curse.com" |
23:52.03 | ulic | I'd probably contact the curse/wowace staff about it |
23:53.05 | SqueeG | Speaking on behalf of everyone here on curse.com.... I'd like to say happy unbirthday too all |
23:53.11 | leech2k | I tried once, but I guess I will have have to try again. Maybe since he has a history of trolling my addon they will do something this time. |
23:53.44 | ulic | SqueeG: but it's my birthday |
23:53.59 | SqueeG | Lies and slander! |
23:54.09 | ulic | kinda yea, it was yesterday :) |
23:54.49 | leech2k | Ahh, the internet. I write an addon for the good of all and someone copies it and calls me a noob. |
23:55.45 | ulic | doubt it started with the internet, the internet just made it easier to do |
23:55.55 | leech2k | True. |
23:56.22 | ulic | guess you should have gotten in touch with the patent office about your addon before you released it :P |
23:56.44 | Mirrored | I dunno if the internet even made it easier to do; just more public |
23:57.08 | SqueeG | edison did it all the time! |
23:57.12 | SqueeG | he made millions! :D |
23:57.13 | Mirrored | indeed |
23:58.24 | Repo | 10libunitcontrol-1-0 (experimental): 03Draake * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed unused debug logic. |
23:58.25 | Repo | Updated description in toc. |