IRC log for #wowace on 20100930

00:00.33Humbedoohtry adding print(a,b) at the start of the sort function
00:06.26Kaeltencan someone ping repos.wowace.com and see what ip it points to?
00:07.00Arrowmasterrepos.wowace.com.1800INA68.64.47.56
00:08.17Humbedooh69.57.184.216 here
00:08.41Yssarilsame as Arrowmaster here
00:08.42Kaeltenugh ok in a git repo, I'd imagine that the objects/tmp_xxxx files are important
00:08.57Arrowmasternot sure
00:09.14Arrowmasteryou guys did set the TOL short before the move right?
00:09.22Arrowmasteror do you always keep it that short?
00:10.21Arrowmasterlooks like its at 30 minutes right now so Humbedooh should be getting the correct address in less than 30 minutes
00:10.33Kaeltenoh the ttl?
00:10.36Kaeltenya it's always 30 mins
00:10.39Arrowmasteryeah ttl
00:10.55Kaeltenon some of the services we set it to 60s
00:11.00Kaeltento move
00:11.16YssarilKaelten: also amazon gift cards could use restocking especially with the holidays comming up
00:11.26Kaeltenorder already requested :)
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00:12.36Kaeltentekkub: any idea on those tmp files?
00:12.39Yssarilalso how often do you guys update the currency conversions
00:13.01Kaeltenwhever the people in san fran tell me too
00:13.40quiescensmoo
00:14.42Yssarilyou should automate it and update every week :)
00:14.50Kaeltennot my call sadly
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00:15.07Yssarilhehe
00:16.02Arrowmasteroh cool when did you guys make the points generation log have a daily total
00:17.38Arrowmasterhmm i still need to fill out that W9 so i can claim my $3127.85
00:18.38starlono.O
00:18.54Arrowmasterthats over a years worth of points
00:19.00starlonnice
00:19.06starlonhow do I sign up? lol
00:19.09WobinI need to get my 500
00:19.19KaeltenArrowmaster: I did that a month or two ago
00:20.47Yssarilspeaking of which Kaelten: https://www.wowace.com/home/item-codes/ seams to be down
00:21.03KaeltenYssaril: how so
00:21.07Kaeltenjust loaded for me
00:21.21doom0rServer not found
00:21.34Yssarilhmm yea stopped connecting to anything wowace right now
00:21.36ArrowmasterKaelten: is ckknight not allowed to redeem his points or something?
00:21.48Yssarilforums are fine though
00:21.49ckknightI am
00:22.18ckknightwell, if I turn in forms
00:22.56Arrowmasterckknight: you do realize youve got over $20,000 in points right?
00:23.09ckknightstay out of my finances
00:23.18Arrowmastergive me some and ill shut up
00:23.25Kaeltenyour not his type
00:23.26Yssarillol
00:23.30Kaeltenyou're*
00:23.44Humbedoohhe's more into Fisker
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00:24.58Humbedoohnow I got the dns update for repos, yay
00:25.02Humbedoohjust need the www thing :<
00:25.12Kaeltenya thats our dns providor having a bug
00:25.16Kaeltenit'll work itself out shortly
00:25.24Kaeltenrepos still don't work
00:25.26Kaeltenbut that's where they will be
00:25.30Humbedoohhm ye says no dns record exists ;<
00:25.34Arrowmasterckknight: why is 'Test Bravo' earning points?
00:25.48ckknightmust be that people have it downloaded
00:25.59kagarorofl
00:26.07Humbedoohit's his Test Delta that's downloading it on a daily basis
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00:27.32Arrowmasteri had to double check that my LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 was earning more points than his Test Bravo
00:28.35Humbedoohthe secret to earning points is not working on your project, Arrowmaster
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00:30.45Arrowmasterman looking over my projects is ammusing
00:30.48Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/project-14092.aspx
00:30.52Arrowmasterthis still earns me points
00:31.02Arrowmasteri didnt even know that had comments
00:33.39quiescensproject-14092 you say
00:34.00Axodiouswth did it do
00:34.01Axodiouslol
00:34.02starlonmy search-fu fails me, and some things are down atm. how do I get involved with the reward points?
00:34.34starlonor is it I'm already involved with it and I'm just not gaining points? :)
00:34.39ArrowmasterAxodious: if you held down one mouse button and double tapped the other button it would turn on autorun
00:35.36Arrowmasterstarlon: goto http://www.wowace.com/home/ and find a thing to sign up
00:35.37Humbedoohit's automatornized, starlon
00:36.06Humbedoohyou will have to pay a deposit of 2 puppies
00:36.16SqueeGnot the puppies!
00:36.34Arrowmasterwhats next, playing poker for kittens
00:36.35Humbedoohyes!
00:36.46starlonlol
00:37.00SqueeGnice
00:37.26starlonso the fact that I haven't received a single point just indicates my addons aren't popular enough right?
00:37.56Arrowmasterno you have to sign up first
00:38.09starlonoh the puppies. right
00:39.15starlonWhere do I sign my soul away?
00:39.24Groktarnibbles on starlon's soul
00:39.32starlonI need that thanks.
00:39.39Groktarom nom nom
00:39.39starlonIT's going to make me rich.
00:40.32Axodiouswow
00:40.35Axodiousim pissed @ microsoft
00:40.39Axodiousso
00:40.42starlononly just now?
00:40.46Groktarproducts microsoft from evil Axodious
00:40.49Groktarer
00:40.51Groktarprotects
00:41.11Axodioussonic 4 is coming out in oct and is only available via download from playstation, wii, xbox, iphone stores
00:41.24Axodiousfor xbox you need 1600 microsoft points to buy it
00:41.34Axodiousthe game cards in the US are 1600
00:41.39Axodiousthe game cards in canada are 1400
00:41.40Arrowmasterwtf $20?
00:41.40Axodious:|
00:41.42starlonbleh
00:41.59Axodiousunless i can find a site online that sells the american cards it's gonna cost extra to buy it
00:42.05ArrowmasterAxodious: amazon.com
00:42.25Axodiousshipping etc probably defeats the purpose :(
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00:42.48Axodiousyay the site i usually get this stuff form has it
00:42.49Arrowmasteryou get free shipping on orders $25 and up
00:43.06quiescenso.O
00:43.10doom0rthat amazon fills
00:43.20AxodiousOHWAIT
00:43.24Axodiousjust to top it off
00:43.31AxodiousYOU CANT USE THE USA CODE ON CANADA ACCOUNTS!
00:43.44Axodiouswow :|
00:43.48Arrowmasteryour fault for living in canada
00:44.09Axodiousmicrosofts fault for being stupid!
00:44.20Axodiousthey could just sell the same card in canada and add 5$
00:45.30Arrowmastercan you buy points from the dashboard?
00:45.38Axodiousi can buy them from their site
00:45.40Axodiousin 1k blocks
00:45.56Axodiousno matter what i've gotta buy extra points to get it
00:46.04Arrowmasterare you sure? they used to sell them in 500 point blocks on the dashboard but then changed it
00:46.17Axodiouswas just looking at it on the website
00:46.20Axodiousnot the actual board
00:46.20Arrowmasternow they sell them in 400 point blocks
00:46.35Axodiousoh my bad
00:46.37Axodiousyeah i can get 500
00:46.50Axodiousstill puts me 100 off
00:47.22Arrowmasteryou are looking on the xbox right?
00:47.33Arrowmasterthey dont sell in 500 point blocks anymore for the US
00:47.52Arrowmasteri would think they would make that change everywhere
00:49.10Axodioushttps://live.xbox.com/en-CA/Flows/BuyPoints/ChooseOffer.aspx
00:49.15Axodiousdunno if you can see that
00:49.34ArrowmasterAckis: you want to chime in on this discussion?
00:49.40Axodiousshows on teh us site too
00:49.45Axodiouschange the en-CA to en-US
00:49.50Groktaris king of everything
00:50.45SqueeGbeing 100 points off is better than needing to buy 2 cards
00:50.59Axodioushow do i get the extra 100 points to buy the game
00:51.05ArrowmasterAxodious: that page you linked shows in 400 point increments for me
00:51.14Axodiousshows 500 here
00:51.15Axodiouslol
00:51.19Axodiouscrafty buggers
00:51.59ArrowmasterAckis: you there?
00:53.02Arrowmasterhttp://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=CanadaAckis
00:53.05Arrowmasterhes watching a movie
00:53.23quiescensstalking people
00:53.28Axodiousrofl
00:53.38TorhalAckis is secretly an underwear gnome.
00:54.03Axodiouspeglle
00:54.04Axodiousreally?
00:54.09Axodiouspeggle*
00:56.01ArrowmasterAxodious: the other option is to wait and see if they sell codes for the game, you can buy codes for XBL marketplace content in stores
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00:57.31Axodiousdunno if they do that in canada
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02:19.24Humbedoohwork faster, Kaelten!!
02:19.38Humbedoohpuppies are dying
02:27.17Kaelten:(
02:27.30Kaeltenmy puppy has heartworms
02:27.35Kaeltenwe take her in tommorrow to treat
02:27.39Kaeltenshe could die
02:27.43Torhal:(
02:28.06SqueeGKaelten, she should be fine unless she's had them before
02:28.16Kaeltenno and we caught them early
02:28.27Kaeltenand we've spent the last month getting her healthy enough to go through this
02:28.38Kaeltenwhen we got her she was heartworm, whip worm, and hook worm positive
02:28.44Kaeltenalso about 20 pounds under weight or so
02:28.47SqueeGHoly shity @_@
02:28.56SqueeGWhere you get her from D:
02:29.16Kaeltena private individual in Chattanooga
02:29.30Kaeltenshe obviously wasn't taken very good care of, and we couldn't leave her
02:29.37SqueeGindeed
02:29.48SqueeGhire some ninjas to stab that person in the face x.O
02:30.21SqueeGWhat breed? :D
02:30.22Kaeltenyeah, thought about it, I mean we could count her vertabre and ribs with precision
02:30.32Kaeltenshe's a 2 year old great dane
02:30.50SqueeGo.o;;
02:30.55SqueeGThat's a lot of dog xD
02:30.59Kaeltenindeed
02:31.10Kaeltennot the best pic
02:31.11Kaeltenhttp://twitpic.com/2ou0vh
02:31.16Kaeltenshe's filled out some since then
02:31.44Kaeltenhttp://twitpic.com/2ou0vf
02:31.50SqueeGaw xD
02:32.45Kaeltenyeah she's turning out to be real pretty
02:33.17SqueeGhow much longer till she's full grown?
02:33.25SqueeGDoes she still try to be a lap dog? :p
02:33.33Kaeltenpretty sure she is full grown just sitll underweight
02:33.35Kaeltenand ya sometimes
02:33.44Kaeltenit's interesting when the most she can get in your lapis her front paws
02:34.05SqueeGhaha xD They are rather huge
02:34.15Wobin=O
02:34.22Wobinwould you like some dog with your worm, Kaelten?
02:34.42KaeltenI'll take the dog leave the worms on the side plz
02:34.58Kaeltenugh, I need to get this repo server done
02:35.32ZhinjioAckis will eat the worms. Yum yum.
02:35.38Wobinis going to take some time to do the things he never has
02:35.55Humbedoohdaaw, a goggie
02:36.21SqueeGRoar at this mulgore tourguide D=<
02:39.22sylvanaarwho got civ5? should i get it?
02:39.51SqueeGI want civ5 T__________T
02:39.55ZhinjioI got it, and yeah, its pretty darn cool
02:40.02sylvanaarok
02:40.10ZhinjioI would definitely call it an improvement over previous versions
02:40.14Zhinjioand its very pretty
02:40.26sylvanaardid you get the $50 one or the $60 one
02:40.54Zhinjiowell, I pre-orderd on steam awhile, so I got the $60 one for $45
02:40.57Zhinjioor something like that
02:40.59ZhinjioI don't remember
02:41.06sylvanaar=(
02:41.12SqueeGwhat's thre difference?
02:41.24sylvanaari dont knw
02:41.26Zhinjiocomes with an expansion pack
02:41.35Zhinjiosome extra map thinger, I think
02:41.44Zhinjioor leader type or something
02:41.46sylvanaarsoundtrack
02:41.48ZhinjioI didn't look into it too heavily
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02:43.50sylvanaarKaelten: my +v didnt stick (rofl)
02:44.16sylvanaaryou guys need to check out my Lua IDE...i need lots more feedbacks
02:44.20Zhinjiowas about to make a "thats what your mom said" joke, but then decided it didn't really work there
02:45.03sylvanaari've asked them about how to make a standalone version of it
02:45.21sylvanaarbut right now...you still gotta use intelliJ
02:45.57Thraesylvanaar: I still enjoy kergoth's tweaked Vim configuration.
02:46.20sylvanaarhelp a brother out...
02:46.23ThraeSpecifically, gvim64.
02:46.28*** mode/#wowace [+v sylvanaar] by Kaelten
02:47.13sylvanaarthanks Kaelten
02:47.33SqueeGsylvanaar : I've installed it but haven't really played with it
02:47.51sylvanaari can give you a feature tour SqueeG
02:47.56Kaeltennp
02:48.00Kaeltenthat one wont stick either though
02:48.13sylvanaarlol i know, ill try not to log out
02:48.28sylvanaar+special for a day
02:48.31Parnicsylvanaar: how i get it?
02:48.49sylvanaarParnic: theres a forum post...holdon
02:49.14sylvanaarhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18501
02:49.24sylvanaarthe code formatter is a good place to start - its neat
02:49.30sylvanaarno pun intended
02:49.32SqueeGI saw you can run your code in it
02:50.01sylvanaaryep
02:50.04Parnicso...why would i install intellij again? :P
02:50.13sylvanaarbecause you love me
02:50.24Parnicbut....but i love notepad++ too! :P
02:50.44sylvanaari know - but but but...you want to help me out with your valuable feebacks
02:50.57SqueeGxD
02:51.10SqueeGwhat feedback are you in need of?
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02:51.24sylvanaarusability, features to add, etc
02:52.33sylvanaarexceptions during use...there is an automated exception reporter
02:52.35Parnicmindspring.com? lol
02:52.39sylvanaarhay
02:52.58sylvanaardid you see "Something Somthing Dark Side"
02:53.09Parnicnah, i really don't like family guy
02:53.16sylvanaar"Yes....compuserve.com....."
02:54.03sylvanaarmy email is about as old as some of you
02:54.09SqueeGI should be home tomorrow I could poke at it then
02:54.51sylvanaarok
02:55.44sylvanaarciv5 needs a streaming downloader
02:55.57Parnicciv v needs a better tutorial for people who haven't played civ before
02:57.59sylvanaarit looks cool - i cant sleep, and I cant get a 5 man going on beta
02:58.10sylvanaarsounds like it will solve my problem
02:58.47sylvanaarin about 20-30 minutes
02:58.59SqueeGCivilization solves ALL problems
02:59.32sylvanaari havent played in years
02:59.51SqueeGAlpha Centaurai was my favorite O_o
03:00.23SqueeGAlthough I guess that doesn't count...
03:01.20sylvanaar@project prat-3-0
03:01.30Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 34 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431
03:01.41sylvanaar217!
03:01.45Parnicslacker
03:01.50Parnic@project ice-hud
03:01.52RepoParnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/. IceHUD. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 hours ago. Tickets: 3/77
03:02.28Yssarilsylvanaar: you should just start a prat-4 that would get rid of all your tickets :P
03:02.40Yssaril@project yssbossloot
03:02.41RepoYssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssbossloot/. YssBossLoot. Game: WoW. yssaril (Manager/Author). Updated: 17 days ago
03:02.51sylvanaarYssaril: not a bad idea
03:03.06sylvanaarPrat 4 - no new features - just no more tickets
03:03.13Yssarilhehe
03:04.42SqueeG217 tickets about what? xD
03:05.17sylvanaarwho the heck knows
03:05.18Parnicwas just reading the comments on prat's curse page...i love people who complain about an addon and threaten to stop using it or say they've stopped using it
03:05.19Humbedoohdead puppies
03:05.21Parnici'm like "and?"
03:05.23Humbedooh:(
03:05.33sylvanaardid you see my response to that guy
03:05.37Parnicyeah :P
03:05.55Torhalsylvanaar: Emacs.
03:05.56Torhal:D
03:06.17Parnici always feel like saying "i'm sorry that this completely free addon developed in my spare time doesn't live up to your standards." but i never do.
03:06.20SqueeGcan authors merge repetative tickets?
03:06.33Parnicyou can mark one as a duplicate, but i don't think you can merge
03:06.35TorhalSqueeG: No, just mark it as invalid
03:06.37pompySqueeG: just mark as dup
03:06.43TorhalOr that
03:06.45SqueeGgh3y
03:06.46pompy~lart Torhal
03:06.46purlgives Torhal an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Torhal to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple
03:07.07sylvanaari always feel bad when i mark tickets invalid or rejected
03:07.07SqueeGgawd! *storms off*
03:07.35sylvanaarso i rarely do it
03:07.43sylvanaari have a wish list milestone
03:07.57Arrowmasteri think 99% of all tickets ive closed have been marked as invalid
03:08.01Parnici mark it invalid when people tell me that the right-click drop down taints when they select 'focus' :P
03:08.01sylvanaarthat pretty much = declined
03:08.39sylvanaarOMG i cant click on links on the chatframe....
03:08.49sylvanaarthats a common one
03:09.16SqueeGhaha
03:09.37SqueeGwell leaving solved tickets around is a good idea in hopes people read them right/
03:09.40SqueeG?* >.>
03:09.49sylvanaarwe need a "closed with love" option
03:10.05Parnicand a "closed with please-never-report-any-more-tickets-ever-again" option
03:10.35sylvanaari suggested auto-aging, after 30 days if they dont update their ticket - it auto-closes
03:10.49Arrowmasteri just completely disabled all tickets on cartographer2
03:10.54Arrowmasterand disabled comments
03:11.00Arrowmasterand said FUCK USERS
03:11.54SqueeGyes but you're rather ornery Arrowmaster xD
03:12.02sylvanaarlol Arrowmaster
03:12.18SqueeGI thought Cart was being abandoned
03:12.27Arrowmasterit was
03:12.28arkanesmaybe it just looks abandoned
03:12.32arkanesbecause FUCK YOU
03:12.33Arrowmasterthe users just never fucking learned
03:12.48Arrowmasterand kept reporting things after it was abandoned
03:13.40SqueeGbrand loyalty xD
03:13.41YssarilKaelten: are repos still down?
03:13.53harlhttp://www.windwolf.de/wow/WoWScrnShot_093010_045804.png
03:14.32YssarilKaelten: i get "Permission denied (publickey)." fatal error
03:15.17harli like how the game lets me do stupid stuff sometimes, but why is there anything solid above a geyser *at all* in the first place..
03:17.05Yssarilhas anyone been able to commit to the repos recently?
03:17.25Arrowmaster@ping
03:17.26Repopong
03:17.44KaeltenYssaril: still down
03:17.47Kaeltenworking on it now
03:17.47Arrowmasterthe bot is here so if anybody commited we would know
03:24.32Kaeltenugh I'm either feeling nauseous or hungry
03:24.34Kaeltennot sure which
03:25.59Arrowmasterim bored
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03:32.59TorhalArrowmaster: Take over for Kaelten, then. Let the man eat.
03:34.00starlonfor some reason AceAddon-3.0 is causing my addon to load with 1.9s CPU time to start, higher than any other addon. I've tried the latest tag and revision both. Anyone have any guesses why this would happen?
03:34.15Primersvn down?
03:34.48YssarilPrimer: all repos are down
03:34.53Primerlovely
03:36.15YssarilPrimer: down due to serve change Kaelten is working on it but he is food deprived atm
03:36.33SqueeGfrench fries! :D
03:37.30Torhalstarlon: Define "to start"
03:37.50starlonon-load
03:37.59KaeltenPrimer: working on it mate :)
03:38.31Torhalstarlon: What's the big deal, then? It's a one-time CPU usage.
03:38.31PrimerKaelten: I love you
03:38.32starlonhmm it doesn't happen when it's the only addon loaded
03:38.40TorhalIt's probably happening when embedding other libraries
03:38.44starlonI know. It's just bugging me.
03:38.46Torhalstarlon: Oh
03:38.53TorhalYou're not running disembedded?
03:38.57starlonnope
03:39.03TorhalThat's your problem.
03:39.08Primerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJKUD8-pVTA  I think I finally got the perfect ffmpeg settings for quality and file size
03:39.17Primerview original. It simply looks amazing
03:39.37TorhalShared libraries means whichever AddOn loaded the library last will get the blame for all of the CPU the library uses.
03:39.38starlonIt's likely another addon's copy of Ace3 then?
03:39.41Yssarilstarlon: you never have reliable cpu/mem usage info for individual addons unless you run disembeded
03:39.53Kaelten:)
03:39.53starlonk
03:40.06starlonyeah I noticed that with StarLibs
03:40.06ArrowmasterPrimer: what are you encoding to?
03:40.23Primerx264+mp3
03:40.28Yssarilcause if its embeded than whichever version is the one that is loaded will get blamed for all mem/cpu is used regardless which addon initiated the usage
03:40.46starlonk
03:40.48ArrowmasterPrimer: you mean h264?
03:41.16Primeryes, the lib is named x264
03:41.25Primerbut you are correct, the codec is h.264
03:41.39Arrowmasterso ffmpeg uses x264?
03:41.57Torhalstarlon: Embedded libraries are esentially injected directly into the execution environment of the AddOn, making them literally a part of the AddOn from the perspective of the Lua interpreter.
03:42.01Arrowmastereverybody i know encodes directly with x264
03:45.26Primerffmpeg is a front end to libx264
03:45.29Primerwhich == x264
03:45.34starlonhehe it jumped to 6.3s when I loaded LCD4WoW. LCD4WoW is no light addon. You'll never hear me making that claim. :)
03:45.46ArrowmasterPrimer: not exactly
03:46.00Primeryes exactly
03:46.40Arrowmasterdont make me go ask one of the lead x264 devs directly because i can
03:47.19Primerdpkg -L x264
03:47.21SqueeGnot before me!
03:47.31Primer/usr/local/bin/x264
03:47.45Primer/usr/local/lib/libx264.a
03:48.04PrimerI omitted the irrelevant files
03:48.13Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
03:48.51Primerlocally compiled, yes
03:49.09Arrowmasterbut in a package?
03:49.12Primeryes
03:49.22Arrowmasterthen you dont need to put it in /usr/local
03:49.39Primermeh, locally compiled crap _should_ go in /usr/local
03:49.58Arrowmasterthere is a difference between locally compiled and managed by your package manager
03:49.59Primergit clone, ./configure, make, checkinstall...
03:50.06PrimerIs there?
03:50.07Primerthat's news to me
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03:50.53Primerhits Arrowmaster with a 50 lb. Linux LSB manual
03:51.07starlonThey're really 50lb too.
03:51.09PrimerI guess the Linux part was redundant
03:51.18Arrowmasterhits Primer with the Debian New Maintainers Guide
03:52.29PrimerAnyhow, the literally copied and pasted these instructions from an ubuntu forum post. The person seemed knowledgeable enough...
03:52.54Primersince this box is on Lenny, which, even with a third party repo, can only get me a 1.5 year old ffmpeg
03:53.13Arrowmasterim sorry but there is something you need to understand
03:53.29ArrowmasterNOBODY ON THE UBUNTU FORUMS IS KNOWLEDGEABLE!
03:54.01Primeragreed
03:54.08Yssarilubuntu forms == wow forums?
03:54.17Arrowmasterits 100% misinformation, mostly of the 'i have no fucking clue why this works but hey it does so im going to tell all of you'
03:54.38PrimerI'm not really a fan of Debian and its derivatives
03:54.59Primerthe fact is, this box is my home development box, which I've perverted into a NAT/file server/and now encoder box
03:55.23PrimerSome day I plan to move all the Debian crap into a chroot and install Fedora
03:55.35Primerjust haven't had time
03:56.31PrimerIt now even runs X with a monitor attached to it, so I can have a usable box in the garage
03:56.38Primerspeakers too!
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03:57.17Arrowmasterill admit ive never touched Fedora but i prefer Debian myself but i loath ubuntu and its derivatives, if i had to use something other than Debian it would probably be Fedora though
03:57.21PrimerOMG WE SAW YOUR REAL IP!!
03:57.40PrimerArrowmaster: I had a bad experience with Debian 3
03:57.52KaeltenArrowmaster: we use ubuntu on most of the linux servers
03:57.55Primerwhile installing it it asked me "which kernel modules I wanted to load"
03:57.59Kaeltenalthough as of last week we now have one rhel server
03:58.05Primerat that point I killed the installation and never looked back
03:58.09Kaeltengoing to convert two more of the ubuntu to rhel soon
03:58.25PrimerKaelten: why not Centos?
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03:58.37Primeror are you getting RHEL for free?
03:58.48Axodiousdid someone say centos?
03:58.48Primeror do you actually need the support?
03:58.52Arrowmasterare you getting support or something on the RHEL?
03:58.53KaeltenPrimer: CentOS is a version behind, and having a support contract is a good thing sometimes
03:59.06PrimerKaelten: yes, it definitely can
03:59.10MikkCAN THE USA PESO PLEASE FIX IS EXCHANGE RATE KKTHX
03:59.30Primeralthough I must say, I can't think of any occasion where I've ever needed one
03:59.41Primereven at my old work where we ran oracle under linux
04:00.12PrimerMikk: Tienes cambio?
04:00.12MikkCan depend on it being 9+:1 when I want to go to the US, and fricking 6.something:1 when I actually have US money that I want to exchange
04:00.25Mikkcurses sod's law
04:00.39PrimerI really miss not having my accented shortcuts in windows...
04:01.11MikkBtw, I'm at 127.0.0.1. Come get me.
04:01.27Primerping floods that ip address!
04:01.28SqueeGslackware!
04:01.43starlonunembedding Ace3 dropped StarTip's initial memory usage to 1.8mb from 3mb. I'm going to rename it AStarTip lol
04:01.44Primerstarted with Slackware 3.0
04:01.49Primerkernel 1.2.13, baby!
04:03.17SqueeGMikk is in mexico? O_o
04:03.38SqueeGyou should just disembed everythign starlon
04:04.08starlonnods.
04:04.15starlonbut users don't always disembed
04:04.32Xinhuando you know Omen only uses 220k fully disembedded? :P
04:04.34PrimerSo Arrowmaster, do you Fraps much? I'm finding that I'm running into a performance bottleneck since getting this 1920x1200 monitor and playing at that resolution. I'm wondering where the bottleneck actually is though. I suspect it's the CPU, since WoW is CPU bound (I have a ton of addons)
04:04.40Mikkstarlon nothing to be done about that
04:04.40starlonnice
04:04.44Mikkhopefully the same users dont care either
04:04.51starlonyeah
04:04.55Mikkand yeah really wtf @1.8 megs :P
04:04.59PrimerArrowmaster: thoughts?
04:05.11XinhuanGatherMate doesn't even use 1.2 mb
04:05.13ArrowmasterPrimer: 1. I dont play WoW 2. I dont run Windows
04:05.23Xinhuanso why does startip use 1.8?
04:05.28MikkSqueeG: no, i could have said US LIRA too
04:05.31starlonWell that's with StarLibs embedded
04:05.34PrimerSo you Fraps other games on a Mac?
04:05.35starlonsec
04:05.38SqueeG=p
04:05.39Xinhuanah
04:05.45PrimerOr were you just curious about ffmpeg?
04:05.47SqueeGI assumed you were just talking conversions
04:05.56ArrowmasterPrimer: i dont use a Mac either
04:06.05MikkUSD = peso/lira/tp
04:06.07Primerahh a Linux purist
04:06.10Mikkcompared to what i want it to be
04:06.11PrimerI used to be one of those
04:06.18Mikkbecause SOME COMPANY pays me in $
04:06.57PrimerMikk: that used to be A Good Thing
04:07.02Mikkmmm it isnt now!
04:07.15Primerhence the term "used to be"
04:07.26SqueeGxD
04:07.48SqueeGbring my strong dollar back! T_T
04:08.02PrimerI'm actually still a Linux purist
04:08.06Mikki guess i should be glad i can at least keep it lying around as USD on my paypal acc
04:08.08Primerbut I also like playing video games
04:08.13Mikkand wait for better times
04:08.13starlonStarTip uses 460kb with StarLibs unembedded. StarLibs is kinda big - 1.37mb, with only StarTip using it.
04:08.24Mikkso um
04:08.27Primerand unless I can play the games I like in Linux natively, I will gladly boot windows
04:08.29Axodiousthey could start paying you in NAU Mikk!
04:08.42Arrowmasteri like games too but the video game industry has turned the pc into a 2nd class platform
04:09.08MikkAxodious: ok spill, wth is NAU :P
04:09.12PrimerI have a PS3. I've yet to find a game that keeps my attention for more than a day
04:09.17starlon1.18mb after a GC
04:09.20Axodiousnorth american union
04:09.34PrimerIs that the new Euro?
04:09.48Axodiousif it ever comes to see the light of day
04:09.55Primerunlikely
04:10.02Axodioushttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union
04:10.07Primerthe rest of NA should just convert to the US dollar
04:10.14Mikkwith half of canada not realizing the civil war ended and still liking their frogs?  unlikely
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04:10.46Axodioushey i livei n that half of canada!
04:10.50Axodiousand i eat good poutine
04:11.59Xinhuanso starlibs needs optimization
04:12.14Xinhuanthat or they contain functions that shuldn't be in a lib
04:12.15Mikkthough the other half might also like the fact that they don't treat sick & unemployed like landfill
04:12.19Mikkso might also be opposed
04:13.06Axodiouswell they added privatization to hospitilization :S
04:13.13Axodiousall the doctors kinda disapeared
04:13.36Axodiousin MTL it takes like 6 hours to see a doctor (unless you leg is missing or something)
04:13.46Primerwow, it seems my windows 7 has a real IPV6 address...
04:13.55Primeryet, I never gave it one, nor did my DHCP server
04:14.02Axodiousalways does Primer
04:14.08Axodiousit's a 7 thing
04:14.16Mikklink local ipv6 addresses can be computed from your MAC address
04:14.17PrimerI wonder if this is what's slowing down lookups in firefox
04:14.18Mikkamong other things
04:14.26Primerno, it's not local link
04:14.26Axodiousprobably not
04:14.40starlonXinhuan: I think it's due to the many LibStub libraries. There's a bunch.
04:15.02Xinhuanexcept after GC, only 1 copy remains in memory
04:15.33Mikkwell if StarLib is a collection of other libs
04:15.37Mikkthen yes i'm not surprised it's big
04:15.41YssarilXinhuan: he is refering to the fact that there are a bunch of sublibs in there
04:15.44Mikkbut i also find it a bit silly :P
04:16.00PrimerTunnel Adapter Local Area Connection
04:16.04PrimerWTF is this crap
04:16.14Xinhuanstart disembedding starlibs ;p
04:16.18Axodiousyooooou installeds omething
04:16.21Mikkoho ipv6-over-4 tunnel
04:16.21Axodiousyes you did!
04:16.34Mikkthen yes it could be the reason :P
04:16.36Axodiousi use to do that for fun
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04:16.46Axodiousgogo6
04:16.48Axodiousftw
04:16.54starlonEach plugin (they populate the script environment) is a library itself. There are 21 plugins at the moment.
04:17.32Mikkwell erm the fact that something is a LibStub library only causes a few hundred bytes in and of itself
04:17.40Mikkso don't go blaming LibStub for that :P
04:17.58Primerseems this tunnel crap is nothing new...tons of people talking about them on the internets
04:18.52starlonwell when I prevent the plugin libraries (and consequently the libraries that require the plugins) from loading it's 545kb
04:19.22Xinhuanwhat do these plugin libs do
04:19.25starlonThat leaves 8 libraries lol
04:19.39starlonXinhuan: The plugins populate the script environment.
04:19.50NeoTronwowace svn currently unavailable?
04:19.51Xinhuanwith what
04:19.53starlonSome do a little more, such as PluginLuaTexts
04:20.08starlonThings such as Name(), etc..
04:20.30Axodioussomeone explain to me why esata never actually took off... was it pricing?
04:20.32starlonSome plugins just wrap another library, such as PluginLinq
04:20.40Axodiousto expensive to make the parts?
04:21.52Primerok, this tunnel shit is bugging me now
04:22.30starlon844kb with the plugins created
04:23.00starlon21 plugins
04:23.21Axodiousare you using a cisco router primer?
04:23.39SqueeGwhy do you need so many plugins?
04:23.49PrimerAxodious: nope
04:23.55Primerjust a Linux NAT box
04:24.04Primerwhich has ipv6 disabled
04:24.06YssarilAxodious: expensive due to low marketpenetration due to requireing external power source
04:24.20Axodioushmm k
04:24.24PrimerThis is some sort of ipv6 tunneling "adapter"
04:24.26Axodiouswere't there some powered ones?
04:24.35Axodiousthat's usually software Primer
04:24.39Primerof course
04:24.45Primerhence the quotes
04:24.49Axodiouslol
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04:25.01Primerthing is, I didn't set this up
04:25.08Axodiousa wild ipv6 tunnel appears
04:25.14Primerevery post I'm reading regarding this is treating it as trivial
04:25.22Primerapparently this is rampant in the windows world
04:25.30Primerand yet, no one wonders wtf is going on
04:25.52PrimerI'm about ready to start capturing packets on my NAT box
04:25.55Axodiousi know when using a win server (2008) it handles ipv6 locally
04:25.58SqueeGdisable it?
04:25.58Xinhuanso why is this a problem
04:26.22PrimerLink local address is fine, I don't give a shit about that
04:26.32Primerbut this "adapter" has a bona-fide IPV6 address
04:26.41Xinhuanso....?
04:26.49PrimerI DIDN'T FUCKING SET THIS UP!
04:26.59Xinhuanso....?
04:27.09KaeltenWOOT
04:27.15Kaeltensvn+ssh is up
04:27.17PrimerSo, you would not be worried if you found a tunnel device on your Linux box that you didn't setup?
04:27.18Xinhuanits not causing issues right?
04:27.24Axodiousdid you setup windows "homegroup" crap?
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04:27.45PrimerIf I did, it was accidental
04:27.50Xinhuanno i wouldn't be worried
04:27.56Xinhuanbecause like you said, its common?
04:27.58Primerheck, I've gone out of my way to disable services on this box
04:28.06Kaeltencan someone confirm for me please
04:28.10Axodiousoh
04:28.12Axodiouslinux box
04:28.14Kaeltenit worked for me but I'd like to know if it works for someone else too
04:28.44SqueeGwhat about git+ssh? :p
04:28.48PrimerKaelten: connection refused
04:28.50NeoTronKaelten: seems to fail
04:28.55Primeroh, just git?
04:29.00Primertried svn
04:29.07NeoTronmaybe I'm using the wrong ip
04:29.13NeoTronwhat is the ip it should point to?
04:29.14KaeltenPrimer svn:// or svn+ssh://
04:29.20PrimerKaelten: svn://
04:29.22KaeltenNeoTron 68.64.47.56
04:29.28NeoTronlooks correct.
04:29.28KaeltenPrimer: ya that's not up yet
04:29.32Kaeltenonly the svn+ssh
04:29.43NeoTron<PROTECTED>
04:30.04Kaeltenugh
04:30.23Kaeltengot that key_read error agaon
04:30.28KaeltenI thought we fixed that
04:30.31Primerok...just because I read several posts treating this as trivial doesn't mean it's trivial, IMO. I'm just not too thrilled to find something that has the potential to be malicious running on my machine
04:30.33TorhalStab it!
04:30.48SqueeGLAZY PEONS AREN'T BEING LAZY
04:30.52SqueeGT___________T
04:31.04Axodiousit's in your compouter stealing your bytes Primer
04:31.05TorhalFoof?
04:31.33Xinhuanthe fact that it uses ipv4 and you have a firewall
04:31.42Xinhuanmeans you already have protection
04:31.53KaeltenNeoTron: you're dhedbor?
04:31.55NeoTronyep
04:31.55Xinhuani don't see a problem
04:32.06Primernot if the machine behind the firewall is the one initiating the connection
04:32.10Kaeltentry now?
04:32.16TorhalKaelten: He's one of the naming casualties in the Great Merger of 2008
04:32.47KaeltenNeoTron: please try now
04:32.55NeoTronsame
04:33.20SqueeGdoesn't nix set itself up to be allow-only or.... what ever the fancy term is, by default?
04:33.25SqueeG(brain melting)
04:33.49XinhuanCan't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
04:33.55PrimerXinhuan: Consider this: A rogue program manages to gain admin access to your windows box, and sets up one of these tunneling adapters, which seems innocuous, because so many people say they are, yet, in fact, said rogue program is using it to communicate with its master
04:34.28Arrowmasterwouldnt happen
04:34.30NeoTroncan't you just remove it?
04:34.32Xinhuanok primer, the problem then is the rogue program, not the tunnel
04:34.33NeoTrondeworm!
04:34.51Axodioushttp://tunnelbroker.net/status.php <- according to that ticker we have 240 days of ipv4 left?
04:35.05PrimerAxodious: unlikely
04:35.49Axodiousot
04:35.49PrimerXinhuan: correct...it's just that I saw this as a symptom of something that could be potentially larger, and became concerned. Is that so far fetched?
04:35.51Axodiousit's going to be interesting when they make that switch
04:36.03Axodiousvery difficult for IT >_>
04:36.33Xinhuanif it has already become a problem, don't you think it would have been far well known or patched by now?
04:36.46SqueeGlol
04:36.55Axodiouso
04:36.58SqueeGxinhuan : both sides are legitimate arguements :P
04:37.04SqueeGIt's good that he's wary
04:37.07Arrowmastereverybody already knows its a well known problem
04:37.18Primerhaha 3227 v6 glue records
04:37.21Arrowmasterthey fucking sold off previously reserved domain blocks
04:37.24PrimerI set one of those up :)
04:37.31Axodiousi'm pretty sure it's going ot be ignored until the ipv4 is full
04:37.33Arrowmasterthey sold off 1.x.x.x to china!
04:37.45Arrowmasterdamn right everybody is ignoring it
04:37.59starlonShould I rename StarLibs-1.0 as LibStarLibs-1.0? Seems redundant, but isn't there some convention I should be following?
04:38.12SqueeGoh!
04:38.17Axodiousthen people will get shoved off into broken pipes of the internet
04:38.23Primerstarlon: I suggest LibLib
04:38.23ShefkiYes you should be following Arrowmaster's convention or he'll eat you.
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04:38.29starlono.O
04:38.36starlonWhat do you mean?
04:38.39SqueeGset it so that it displays it's name in the in game menu as Lib: StarLibs-1.0
04:38.40Arrowmasterim waiting for when they run out of ipv4 blocks to sell off and then they decide to start selling class E blocks
04:38.41ShefkiLibStarLibOfStars
04:38.41starlonOh
04:38.48starlonI thought you said LibStub :)
04:38.49SqueeGso it lists itself with most other libs
04:38.50KaeltenNeoTron: try now?
04:38.57SqueeGi hate having rogue libraries floating around
04:38.59starlonlol Shefki
04:39.27Xinhuansounds like a lib that makes or uses stars
04:39.32ArrowmasterSqueeG: do you remember my 'unique snowflake' commit to the old svn?
04:39.51Xinhuana lib's name should be descriptive of what it does
04:40.10NeoTronsame
04:40.28starlonhmm
04:40.29Xinhuani.e no more libs like LibGratuity or LibCrayon!
04:40.29starlontrue
04:40.36starlonheh
04:40.57starlonI'm not calling it LibLCD ;)
04:42.06TorhalXinhuan: So what about LibQTip? :D
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04:42.26TorhalBWAH!
04:42.37NeoTronout of curiosity, is there a menu library yet?
04:42.50TorhalNeoTron: UIDropDownMenu
04:42.54TorhalHehe
04:43.06Iblisehey - is there someone I can direct my issues with threat plates: tidy plates too? that frequents mirc?
04:43.09NeoTronwas hoping for something more advanced :P
04:43.16ShefkiNeoTron: It's built into the game it's called EasyMenu
04:43.17Xinhuanif there's a menu library, its really just going to be a UIDropDownMenu wrapper similar to EasyMenu
04:43.35ShefkiWhat Xinhuan said.
04:43.39Xinhuanand i generally don't like wrapper libs
04:43.40YssarilNeoTron: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=295572
04:44.00starlonwell this isn't really a wrapper lib
04:44.00Xinhuanunless the underlying API is too "low level"
04:44.00KaeltenNeoTron: I'm unable to reproduce :/
04:44.24starlonit's a loadstring wrapper if it's considered a wrapper
04:44.28Torhalstarlon: What's wrong with LibLCD?
04:44.35starlonHmm
04:44.48Xinhuanwhat does your lib do
04:45.00Xinhuancan you adequately come up with 1 sentence
04:45.12Xinhuanthat describes what it does
04:45.14TorhalIf not, it should be more than one lib
04:45.37KaeltenNeoTron: watching the auth log if you could try again
04:45.38starlonI started out with multiple libraries, but that was a nightmare to keep updated.
04:46.07TorhalThe point of a library is to have reusable code that does one thing well.
04:46.25TorhalWhen you start mashing a bunch of those together, it's an amalgam and quickly bloats anything trying to use it.
04:46.30Xinhuando you have more than 1 addon that is sharing this lib?
04:46.44Xinhuanor think it would be useful to other authors
04:46.46NeoTrondid it now
04:47.02Kaeltendidn't see any message int he log
04:47.05Xinhuanthat's how we tend to see whether something should be a lib or not
04:47.16starlonwell it does do one thing. It displays information in a fancy way, and provides a way for the user to script the information shown.
04:47.18Kaeltensure you're hitting the new server?
04:47.43TorhalKaelten: I'd hope so since you disabled it on the old one.
04:47.48Xinhuanso the lib creates a information display?
04:47.49Kaelten:P
04:48.10TorhalJust saying...:D
04:48.18Kaeltenoh damnit
04:48.38NeoTronName:    repos.wowace.com
04:48.38NeoTronAddress:  68.64.47.56
04:48.38NeoTronAliases:  svn.wowace.com
04:48.39Arrowmasterwhat did you do? is this going to be a good one?
04:48.42pompy@describe starlibs-1-0
04:48.43NeoTronthat one
04:48.43Repopompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/starlibs-1-0/. StarLibs-1.0. StarLibs-1.0 provides various libraries.
04:48.57NeoTronwere you fixing it on the old host? :P
04:49.04Xinhuansvn.wowace.com is still rejecting connections
04:49.06starlonPretty much. It provides a way to show information as text, a progress bar, a histogram, images, animated icons, and provides other scriptable elements like a timer widget, and a key widget for catching key events
04:49.12Arrowmasteris this going to be a better "oh damnit" than the drop table incident?
04:49.31Xinhuanso starlon, its somewhat similar to hmmmm libfubarplugin?
04:49.40Torhalstarlon: So an AddOn that wants a histogram also has to load code for progress bars, images, and animated icons?
04:49.48starlonNo
04:49.56starlonThat's why it's individual libraries.
04:50.08starlonIf you load it as an addon, however, you load everything.
04:50.08TorhalSo it's a suite.
04:50.14TorhalThat's bad
04:50.15Xinhuanso its more like ace3 then? a library of libraries?
04:50.21starlonYes
04:50.28Xinhuanand acegui - which is also a library of widgets
04:50.35PrimerSo calling it LibLib isn't that far off!
04:50.36Torhal"you load everything" - why?
04:50.42TorhalBloat.
04:50.47starlonAs an addon
04:50.53KaeltenNeoTron: I just moved you to the top of the file
04:50.55Kaeltengive it another shot
04:51.03starlonAce3 loads everything as well when it's unembedded
04:51.04Xinhuansounds fine Torhal - ace3 operates in the same manner
04:51.09Xinhuanas does AceGUI-3.0
04:51.22Xinhuanspecific addons should only use parts of it
04:51.24Xinhuannot all of it
04:51.26TorhalXinhuan: Oh, I didn't read the "disembedded" subtext
04:51.41starlonyeah I should have stated that more clearly :)
04:52.01Xinhuanbut i think you know as well as i do, all addons load the full acegui anyway rather than only the 3 widgets it might use out of 15
04:52.29Xinhuancould call that bloat too
04:52.47NeoTronKaelten: ran it, same thing again
04:52.53Kaeltenwtf
04:53.01KaeltenI literally see no record of your attempted login
04:53.19NeoTronoh lol
04:53.21NeoTronsec
04:53.26TorhalKaelten: svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': Connection refused
04:53.46NeoTronit's good
04:53.53Kaeltenlol
04:54.01Kaeltenwhy must you do this to me!
04:54.03NeoTron... old entry in .ssh/known_hosts
04:54.07Kaeltenah
04:54.08NeoTronit silently failed
04:54.16XinhuanCan't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it
04:54.33Xinhuani'm not using ssh i think
04:54.41Arrowmaster@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
04:54.41Arrowmaster@       WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!          @
04:54.42Arrowmaster@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
04:54.42ArrowmasterThe RSA host key for curseforge.net has changed,
04:54.44Arrowmasterand the key for the corresponding IP address 68.64.47.56
04:54.46Arrowmasteris unknown. This could either mean that
04:54.49ArrowmasterDNS SPOOFING is happening or the IP address for the host
04:54.50starlonLibFancyDisplay-1.0 :)
04:54.51Arrowmasterand its host key have changed at the same time.
04:54.54Arrowmaster@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
04:54.56Arrowmaster@    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
04:54.59Arrowmaster@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
04:54.59RepoArrowmaster: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
04:55.01ArrowmasterOMG!
04:55.03PrimerOMG!!
04:55.07Arrowmasterlol
04:55.11starlonhaha
04:55.13Xinhuanhahahahahahaha
04:55.28Arrowmaster@ping
04:55.36Arrowmasterits ignoring me!
04:55.36Kaeltenlol
04:55.38Parnic@ping
04:55.38Arrowmastermake it stop!
04:55.39Repopong
04:55.41Kaelten@ping
04:55.41Repopong
04:55.42Parnicstill likes me
04:55.47Torhalstarlon: LibDisplayWidgets
04:55.49Kaeltensidenote guys
04:55.49Xinhuanawesome
04:55.52starlonHmm
04:55.55Kaeltenthat Repo is running int he old DC
04:55.57Xinhuanthat's the first time i've seen repo do tat
04:56.35starlonLibWidgetDisplay?
04:56.54starlonMaybe LibLCD after all :)
04:57.08Xinhuanit creates displays right?
04:57.16XinhuanLibLCDDisplay maybe
04:57.18starlonCause it is designed in the spirit of LCD4Linux
04:57.23starlonThat's redundant
04:57.27ParnicLiquidCrystalDisplayDisplay? :P
04:57.28starlonliquid crystal display
04:57.32starlonhaha
04:57.36Xinhuanright
04:57.55Arrowmasternow how the hell do i get ssh to work again now that the host key has changed
04:58.16starlonreinstall OS
04:58.23starlonis tech support.
04:58.23KaeltenNeoTron, can you try to make a test commit, I'm betting it'll fail
04:58.53YssarilArrowmaster: i just removed the wowace reference from my known hosts file
04:59.08ArrowmasterYssaril: i cant do that, mine arent in plaintext
04:59.22Yssarilnuke the whole file then ?
04:59.26Arrowmasterno
04:59.28Xinhuanmake a new entry?
04:59.29Arrowmasterits a big file
04:59.34Axodiousliblcdisplay
05:00.53starlonhttp://i.imgur.com/F4G98.jpg
05:00.54StanzillaI just had a dream about me climbing up a big tower (looked like eifel tower) on the mission to create the world's "highest" toast. yes i was climbing with a toast in my hand
05:01.03starlonLibLinq is the bulk of it
05:01.12PrimerDid you wake up with "solution in hand"?
05:01.17Stanzillano :(
05:01.31Axodiousbread in your hand not toasted?
05:02.12Stanzillain the dream yes
05:02.20Xinhuanwell eifel tower isn't the tallest tower :P
05:02.36Stanzillayeah but I guess it looked like that because I watched rush hour the other day
05:02.44Stanzillaand part 3 is in paris
05:03.04ShefkiXinhuan: Clearly the french should dig a trench around it and declare it the tallest.
05:03.15starlonactually LibLinq shrinks to 250kb after a GC
05:03.25NeoTronKaelten: in a sec..
05:03.55NeoTronsvn: Can't create directory '/media/repositories/svn/wow/magicrunes/mainline/db/transactions/67-1.txn': Permission denied
05:03.59Kaeltenya
05:04.02Kaeltenfigured
05:04.10KaeltenI'll ahve that worked out and svnserve working in a few mins
05:04.10Shefkigoes back at thinking his guild is a bunch of idiots for trying to force a Paladin healing parse by letting him solo heal valithria.
05:04.22KaeltenI just need to go through and replace a shit ton of symlinks with the proper symlinks
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05:07.17starlonHow do you force a load-on-demand addon to load?
05:07.26starlonit's a library
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05:08.01Xinhuanhave something that isn't LoD OptDep it
05:08.10starlonis guessing there's an LoadAddon heh
05:08.22starlonk
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05:10.19starlonI had typo'd its name.
05:10.42ArrowmasterKaelten: whats the ssh fingerprint of the old box so i can figure out which of these to remove?
05:11.09Kaelteneh......
05:11.10Kaeltensec
05:11.34KaeltenAAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA3dP7tn2ik2TuyiU39+XMW9Mi+399lyqKWM2cTNr0Rv2IOYYju5RRYRptJzgHsXYks49QkeL3jmuEw6MVdEy4BJGoRrza5xLjlklcVEW1mCCoAKwnH/62h/NvAhvgRrJBmdGulZ5wxIHcEThNzf87DHFBHQqOQY7cXX274qVZxsczWN/IgxRtTZQ/Q3cyXWdR2xj3GHOcyl8fwgmFvlub7lFXkWTaDLl/KTbCuXwFrmsOm97oJcfQ8B84uAbALjsCpJBCAcgmU6pdBcOjqNUQXcldmolWZzOW/tIxmfMpNmT5+HOzAdRYO6XVs945AVBkG19BfTgPBBt24oebhwel/Q==
05:12.00Kaeltenso how do I go through several thousand directories blow away existing symlinks and replace them with good ones....
05:12.02Kaelten:/
05:12.13Kaeltenevery idea i get I'm not liking the idea oto much
05:12.21KaeltenI suppose a bash script may be in order though
05:12.31Axodious^
05:12.32Axodiousthis
05:12.34ShefkiKaelten: find . -lname
05:12.49Kaeltenis there an if statement for finding symlinks?
05:12.53Kaeltenin bash
05:12.59Shefki-H I think.
05:13.26NeoTron-h
05:13.27Arrowmasterwhy are they symlinks wrong?
05:13.34NeoTronor -L
05:14.24TorhalArrowmaster: You don't have ssh-keyscan?
05:14.54Arrowmasteri do
05:14.57Arrowmasterwhats it do?
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05:17.25Repopong
05:17.31Arrowmasterit stopped ignoring me
05:17.37starlon:)
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05:21.23TorhalArrowmaster: I ran it a few minutes before you asked Kaelten what the server fingerprint was and got the same result.
05:22.08Arrowmasteri wanted the old one though
05:22.31TorhalAh
05:23.01Arrowmasterbecause i didnt see an option for ssh to make it overwrite the ~/.ssh/known_hosts with the new one
05:29.10KemayoLooks like I picked the wrong night to quit not commiting.
05:30.30Xinhuanthat's why git is awesome, local commits!
05:32.03KemayoA bunch of my older addons are still on SVN, alas.
05:34.41Mikkkeep them there!
05:34.44Mikkgit hates me
05:35.22TorhalMikk: You're just a traditionalist curmudgeon
05:35.24Torhal:D
05:35.30Yssarilhmm so blizzard added map ids for BC instances but no maps yet /cry
05:35.40Mikkgit has curmudgeon detection? damn, that explains a thing or two
05:35.46TorhalHah
05:36.12Mikkwell, i should say that it's git+ssh+curse that hates me
05:36.16Mikkgit locally works fine
05:36.32Mikkit just feels a tad pointless
05:36.41TorhalI'm thinking Curse hates you. I mean, you are DPSGnome now.
05:37.02Mikkheh, when you mention that, .. i wouldn't be surprised if that's what causes the fuckup
05:37.22TorhalI'd tell you to ask Kaelten to fix it, but at the moment I'd think he'd be more likely to breathe fire at you.
05:37.45Mikkhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1492-mikks-account-keeps-being-broken/   <- 9 june 2009
05:38.27TorhalWell, he's in the process of migrating data to the new servers so he's elbow-deep in bullshit.
05:38.39TorhalHe may just uncover the issue
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05:40.14Mikkpft
05:40.16Kaeltenok svn should be up and writable
05:40.23Kaeltenalthough I'm still working ont he hooks
05:40.34Yssarilfix git then :)
05:40.36Mikklast i heard the auth db was still a horrible hellhole of spaghetti relationships :P
05:40.36Kaeltenso they may block for a bit longer
05:42.01ArrowmasterKaelten: should 'ssh svn.wowace.com' give me something other than Permission denied (publickey).
05:43.13YssarilKaelten: did you guys combine the mmo-champs auth with curse yet?
05:44.05Xinhuandoubt it
05:44.10Xinhuanif it has there would be announcements
05:44.15Xinhuanand mmo champ would have announced downtime, etc
05:51.26TorhalYssaril: Nah, I went there and it didn't say "Hello Torhal" either before or after I clicked Login.
05:51.37TorhalAll the other sites do that
05:53.35quiescensmoo
05:54.29TorhalSTEAK!
05:55.05Kaeltenanyone able to help me confirm that svn committing works?
05:56.44Primersvn ci ass -m "test commit"
05:56.44Primersvn: Commit failed (details follow):
05:56.44Primersvn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
05:57.01Primerhost key?
05:57.35quiescensmebeh
05:57.57KaeltenPrimer: possible
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05:58.19PrimerWhy didn't you save the previous host keys?
05:59.50Primerok, nuked the key, now I'm getting a post commit
05:59.51Primersec
06:00.57Primeryeah, something's broken
06:01.00Primersec, pastebining
06:01.27Primerhttp://pastebin.com/FRDwRc9X
06:01.38Kaeltencute
06:02.03Primermight want to echo out a more generic error
06:02.10YssarilKaelten: http://paste.wowace.com/2518/ svn without ssl
06:02.18Yssarils/ssl/ssh/
06:02.25Primerone that doesn't expose your paths
06:02.33Primerbut hey, I guess I'm too paranoid
06:03.31Fiskerrobert knepper Kaelten
06:03.31YssarilPrimer: if someone can get at those files unauthorized then you have bigger problems imo
06:05.15Primercan never be too careful
06:05.34Kaeltenok guys I think I have all the bugs fixed
06:05.35Kaeltentry now
06:06.00Primersvn commit DirectionArrowZoneSizes.lua -m "test commit"
06:06.00PrimerSending        DirectionArrowZoneSizes.lua
06:06.00PrimerTransmitting file data .
06:06.00PrimerCommitted revision 30.
06:06.03TorhalKaelten: Successful svn update
06:06.07Kaeltenwoot
06:06.11Kaelten(repo won't announce yet)
06:06.50YssarilKaelten: /media/repositories/svn/wow/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/mainline/hooks/post-commit.d/documenterlog.sh: line 3: /home/curseforge/logs/documenter-commits.log: Permission denied
06:07.20Yssarili dont even use the documenter
06:08.37KaeltenYssaril, should be fixed now
06:09.43TorhalKaelten: Speaking of the documenter...it may be borked.
06:09.53Kaeltenwell if by borked you mean not running
06:09.54Kaeltenthen yes
06:09.59Kaelten(same goes for the packager too)
06:10.03TorhalXinhuan: What was the discussion about the documenter last night (or the night before)?
06:10.16TorhalKaelten: Pre-datacenter migration
06:10.21Kaeltenoh
06:10.23Kaeltennot tonight
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06:10.30KaeltenI'm running on fumes as it is
06:10.41Kaeltenand I've got a few hours left probably
06:10.49YssarilKaelten: packager isnt running :P
06:10.51Kaeltengit only had via ssh didn't it?
06:10.58YssarilKaelten: yea
06:11.40Arrowmasteryeah i dont think you guys added smart http support for git yet
06:11.45Xinhuanyeah
06:12.19Arrowmasterbut then you would have to use a recent version of git to even do that
06:12.29Arrowmasterand your running ubuntu so thats not going to happen
06:12.44Yssarilauth seams to work for git but returns this: bash: ./serve: No such file or directory
06:13.08Kaeltenerm wtf, were we using gitosis... or something else
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06:13.29Arrowmastergitorious?
06:13.38Kaeltenor soemthing
06:13.40Arrowmastergitosis is dead
06:13.58Kaeltenit looks like we tried half a dozen methods
06:14.11Arrowmastergitolite has replaced gitosis
06:14.46KaeltenI think we just ended up using git-daemon
06:14.53Arrowmasteryou cant
06:15.03Arrowmastergit-daemon doesnt do ssh
06:15.05PrimerAnyone know the command to reset the combat log?
06:15.39YssarilPrimer: you have to delete it
06:15.51Primerno
06:15.53Primerthere's a command
06:15.55PrimerI've used it
06:17.10KaeltenArrowmaster: try to pull ?
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06:18.13ArrowmasterImportError: No module named sqlalchemy.engine
06:18.47Kaeltenugh
06:19.08doom0rCombatLogClearEntries()
06:19.29KaeltenArrowmaster: try now
06:19.39doom0rPrimer: ^
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06:19.58Arrowmasterwell it worked but
06:20.13Arrowmaster/home/curseforge/env/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/ext/declarative.py:554: SADeprecationWarning: Session.mapper is deprecated.  Please see http://www.sqlalchemy.org/trac/wiki/UsageRecipes/SessionAwareMapper for information on how to replicate its behavior.
06:20.18Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
06:20.22Kaeltenlol
06:20.23Kaeltencute
06:20.42Primerdoom0r: thanks
06:21.27KaeltenArrowmaster try now
06:21.34Arrowmasterso you just installing python locally in the home dir instead of system wide?
06:21.54KaeltenArrowmaster, ya isolating the python env is a nice thing
06:22.17Arrowmasterok no warning
06:22.23evlGrrraooaoao
06:22.39evlEverytime I try to use Auctioneer for my Gem Empire it just makes my game total shit
06:22.46evlReminds me of running Adobe software
06:22.47ArrowmasterKaelten: be sure to keep up on the security updates though when you have it isolated
06:24.13Kaeltenit uses venv
06:24.23Kaeltenso its just an isolated version of the systems python
06:24.48Kaeltenugh I need git-daemon too
06:24.56Kaeltenbut it's not part of git-core anymore it looks like
06:25.24Arrowmastercheck for a git-daemon or git-daemon-run package
06:25.36Kaeltenthere is git-daemon-run
06:25.43Kaeltenbut that wants to install runit
06:25.45Arrowmasterand git-core got renamed to git (at least in debian)
06:25.47Kaeltenwhich is superfloris
06:25.51Kaeltenbut meh
06:26.00Arrowmastergit-daemon was never in git-core
06:26.01Arrowmasterafaik
06:26.06Kaeltenhrm
06:26.07Kaeltenmaybe so
06:26.18Arrowmasterwhat is runit?
06:26.26Kaeltenrunit is similar to supervisor
06:26.32YssarilKaelten: gettin closer http://paste.wowace.com/2519/
06:26.33Kaeltenwhich I already use
06:26.55Arrowmasterwhen the hell did git-daemon-run start requiring it
06:26.58Kaeltenya haven't tried writes yet
06:27.00Kaeltendunno
06:28.03Kaeltenbut where is it hiding the config files
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06:32.29Arrowmasterok well this guinea pig is going to bed
06:32.47starlonbed bugs LOVE guinea pigs
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06:43.21Kaeltenlooks like I've got git-daemon running now
06:43.27Kaeltennow just to get git repos writable
06:43.31Kaeltenanyone available to help test?
06:48.25TorhalKaelten: Aye.
06:48.31Kaeltencool
06:51.53Elkanohardly used git so far so I wouldn't be of much help :(
06:55.41YssarilKaelten: current git write error: http://paste.wowace.com/2520/
06:56.04TorhalYssaril: Yah, that was pretty much what I got - he's on it
06:59.06KaeltenYssaril: try again if youw ant
06:59.56YssarilKaelten: new error http://paste.wowace.com/2521/
07:00.51Kaeltentry again
07:01.26YssarilKaelten: woot
07:02.05Kaeltenwoot
07:02.18Kaeltenwell for the moment I'm going to label git done then
07:02.22Kaeltenso close to sleep
07:02.26Yssarilgood luck with hg
07:02.29Kaeltenvoluntarily or not
07:02.46NeoTronKaelten: so I try to post comments on curse.com but it doesn't seem like it sticks. known issue?
07:03.08TorhalNeoTron: It's an itermittant thing.
07:03.14Kaeltencould be an issue with the migration due to cache invalidation
07:03.17TorhalSometimes works, sometimes doesn't
07:03.27TorhalKaelten: You migrated Curse proper as well?
07:03.31Kaeltenyes
07:03.33TorhalAh
07:03.35Kaelten_everything_
07:03.37Kaeltenall of our sites
07:03.42Kaeltenhave moved in the last few days
07:03.44Kaeltenall the services
07:03.45Kaelteneverything
07:03.48Kaeltenit's been hell
07:03.49TorhalWell, I've had the comment issue on and off for a long time on Curse
07:04.00TorhalI chalked it up to Curse's infrastructure sucking eggs.
07:04.03Kaeltenheh
07:04.41mitch0torhal: :)
07:05.34TorhalAlso, mitch0, WTF? You're losing market share because ChocolateBar has a menu like FuBar when you click the bar!
07:05.37Torhalcackles.
07:06.04TorhalJust thought I'd throw that out there - there was a forum post where someone said ChocolateBar was the closest to FuBar because of that.
07:06.45FiskerRobert Knepper Kaelten
07:07.41mitch0torhal: I sorta don't care any more :)
07:07.53doom0rwhat do you need a menu for the bar for?
07:07.59doom0rit has it's own feed
07:09.07doom0r"Set a fixed width for any plugin", now that sounds nice
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07:10.27Torhalmitch0: Oh, I didn't say you did...it was for the humor value.
07:10.42Torhaldoom0r: Read above :)
07:11.33TorhalThough I do wonder what you mean by "sorta don't care". Quitting WoW?
07:17.56doom0rit's seems as wotlk wears on, the quality of displays is up and the feeds tend to suck
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07:20.09Torhaldoom0r: The feeds have always sucked.
07:20.46doom0rat least there were bad ports from fubar
07:20.56doom0rnow there's just bad ones from scratch that are worse
07:23.02doom0rwhich reminds me, toggles for the collapsible categories on travel agent would be nice, don't need me at all ;x
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07:25.54PrimerCan anyone recommend a feral druid addon?
07:26.11PrimerI've just started doing feral DPS, but I have no fucking clue
07:26.33Torhaldoom0r: Huh?
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07:36.29mitch0torhal: I haven't been playing for a year :) now I restarted a bit with a druid
07:37.30TorhalHeh
07:38.00mitch0torhal: by "sorta don't care" I mean I just gave up on hoarding loads of points. I got 10k collected from the start, now waiting for my $500.
07:38.17TorhalAh
07:40.43mitch0hohoho, my $500 just arrived :)
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07:41.24mitch0fortunately it didn't get lost with the server move :)
07:42.14TorhalWee!
07:42.40Kaelten:
07:42.42Kaelten:P
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07:43.02mitch0kaelten: distribute my thanks to the curse team ;)
07:44.44mitch0if only paypal wouldn't suck so much... the site is slow as hell
07:44.50Kaeltenahah! found it
07:45.30TorhalKaelten: Hrm?
07:45.46Kaeltentook me a while to figure out where the hooks for hg get hooked in at
07:55.15mitch0just my luck. HUF is strongest against USD since the last 6 months :(
07:55.33doom0rTorhal: option to disable recommended crap
07:56.06mitch0doom0r: do you also use bazooka?
07:56.21doom0rabsolutely, it's pimp
07:56.44mitch0do you use borders? or know of anyone who sets up borders for it?
07:56.59mitch0I'm thinking about dropping support for that...
07:57.23doom0rwell, i was going to, because i had my orange border on fubar... but currently the issue is that it's a complete border
07:57.44doom0rneeds to only face the game world if docked
07:57.48mitch0"complete border"?
07:57.55mitch0ah
07:58.06doom0respecially if you use two docked up top
07:58.25mitch0well, you can cheat a bit by tweeking the top position "out of screen" :)
07:58.29doom0rbut if free float isn't common, i'd say drop it
07:58.42doom0ryou can make a good ui without borders at all
07:59.36mitch0torhal: actaully, I might add opening the bar options pane on right click if the bar is not locked. it'd be like 2 lines of code :)
08:01.48mitch0doom0r: I might get around implementing the new border stuff (as SetBackdrop is deprecated), but it's a bit of a mess and seems a lot of work...
08:02.23doom0rput up an open question on comments or something
08:02.26doom0rsee if there's need
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08:02.32mitch0nobody answers to those :P
08:02.34mitch0I tried
08:02.53doom0rthen drop it, see if anyone complains, if so, implement
08:03.07mitch0doom0r: how would your "half border" work? only the bottom corners and the bottom line, or the sides too?
08:03.15doom0rsec
08:04.38doom0rhttp://i53.tinypic.com/2iuff47.jpg
08:04.51doom0rold ui, 2 on top 1 on bottom
08:06.12mitch0eh, you can do that now
08:06.38doom0ri tried doing a border on the second bar from top, it showed right through the other one, it was a full border
08:06.44mitch0if I don't have a minimum bar height set
08:07.02mitch0here's what you do: add a third bar on top, set it to 2 px height, set bg color
08:07.08Torhaldoom0r: So instead of having it collapsed, simply not have it there?
08:07.14doom0rcorrect
08:07.28doom0rold fubar location had that option iirc
08:07.47doom0rpeople who've played since vanilla usually don't need that crap
08:08.12mitch0lemme check if I have some minimum height requirement
08:08.59mitch0hrmp, it's set to 10px at the moment, but you can easily change that ;)
08:09.09the-golemwhat'd they replace SetBackdrop with?
08:09.24mitch0fine control over texture layers
08:09.48TorhalOh, jeebus
08:09.50mitch0in other words: "do it yourself with SetTexcoord and stuff"
08:10.02TorhalIs that going live in Cata or is it simply deprecated?
08:10.10mitch0just deprecated
08:10.17TorhalSo there's time.
08:10.23the-golemwell, good
08:10.27TorhalLike, two years worth if previous experience serves.
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08:10.44mitch0but I do have issues with SetBackdrop anyway
08:10.54mitch0it doesn't let me set a gradient background
08:10.58the-golemdeprecating setbackdrop without providing a nice alternative sounds pita
08:11.10mitch0so the proper thing to do would be to implement it the new way
08:11.13the-golemI have issues with SetTexCoord myself
08:11.23mitch0but first I'd write LibBackdrop :)
08:13.57jnwhitehits fun fighting with manual spammers
08:14.44mitch0is not
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08:28.38TorhalSpare ribs?
08:34.27Yivrywtb!
08:36.26sylvanaar@project prat-3-0
08:36.29Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 39 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431
08:36.37sylvanaarlol more!
08:40.41sylvanaar@project prat-3-0
08:40.41Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 40 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431
08:43.32sylvanaar@project prat-3-0
08:43.33Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 40 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431
08:43.38sylvanaarhrm
08:43.45Yivryseems steady :P
08:43.48sylvanaarbot must not update
08:43.54Kaeltenhe's not moved over yte
08:44.20doom0rwhy you still awake?
08:44.23Kaeltentrying to get the packager up and working
08:44.29sylvanaari has 62 tickets now
08:44.46Yivrymove? what did ya move?
08:44.56doom0rlol, all of curse
08:44.59Kaelten_everything_
08:45.07sylvanaarto ngnix?
08:45.20sylvanaaror another server
08:45.27Kaeltencheck the front page :P
08:45.33sylvanaar=)
08:46.03sylvanaari see
08:46.49YivryI did immediately after asking, talk about wrong order lol
08:47.43jnwhitehWAH
08:47.49jnwhitehKaelten: conjure up my gift certs while you're at it
08:47.53jnwhitehI can see you're not busy at all
08:48.02jnwhitehso I expect it to be done in the next two hours.
08:48.03jnwhitehThank you!
08:49.07sylvanaar...
08:49.11Kaelten:P
08:49.33jnwhitehit wouldn't be bad if it weren't for the fact that the kindle is 2-week backordered in the UK =(
08:49.51Kaelten:(
08:50.25jnwhitehbut I'll cope =)
08:50.32sylvanaarwell while you are waiting jnwhiteh you can try out my IDE
08:50.40jnwhitehlol
08:50.47jnwhitehI don't use IDEs
08:50.55jnwhitehso it would be an artificial exercise at best
08:51.13jnwhitehI use Vim with syntax coloring and that's about it.
08:51.25sylvanaaryes i know
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08:51.46sylvanaarbut...maybe some of your readers might benefit from the IDE's features
08:52.13sylvanaarespecially those not fluent in Lua
08:53.25Yivrywhat ide did you make, and why would I use it?
08:54.04sylvanaar/wrists
08:54.42Yivryaaww was just trying to fake some interest :P
08:54.51sylvanaari know
08:54.52Yivry(and maybe get a replacement for Eclipse)
08:54.57sylvanaaroh
08:55.01sylvanaarwell i can help you there
08:55.08sylvanaarits based on IntelliJ
08:55.20Yivryah THE counter for eclipse lol
08:55.48sylvanaarhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18501
08:56.03KaeltenI'm crashing guys
08:56.08KaeltenI can't think straight enough to dig into this
08:56.30Kaeltengnight
08:56.34sylvanaarnini
08:56.50Kaeltenexisting repos are usable just packaging and new repos are going to have issues
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09:01.02Yivrylooks overly complicated tbh, but that might just be intelliJ itself
09:01.32Torhaldoom0r: So what you're saying is that you want yuor tooltip to only have the zone name and coordinates?
09:01.40Torhals/yuor/your/
09:02.12doom0rwell, i was thinking about that, that's all that's really necessary to avoid multiple toggles
09:02.34doom0rotherwise, recommended vs waht's in the zone, i.e. fishing, dungeons in THAT zone
09:02.55doom0reither way, don't think it matters, really, just all would do
09:03.26doom0rafter a week of playing again i'll know em all and never use it at all cept for location display, and i'm sure most will do the same
09:04.06TorhalThat's why I made 'em collapsible.
09:04.09TorhalHeh
09:04.13doom0rit's just such a huge tooltip since my minimap is under it even collapsed
09:04.23doom0rcovers the whole map, so i have to mouse way away to get it gone
09:04.58TorhalIf all you want to see is the location name and coords, why are you even opening the tooltip?
09:05.02Torhal:D
09:06.02doom0ri could just hide it, was just food for thought ;x
09:06.10TorhalHehe
09:06.25doom0ractually with all the dungeons they added, i'll probably keep usign it til i find them
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10:18.38sylvanaar_ipadI hate that FedEx always skips my apt for the 8am delivs
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10:19.05sylvanaar_ipadI have to sit outside and wait ... Lame
10:19.39sylvanaar_ipad2 fucking hours
10:26.10Torhalsylvanaar_ipad: You could always ask passerbys to try your IDE...
10:26.13Torhalducks.
10:26.37Stanzillahaha :D
10:26.44sylvanaar_ipadI give up
10:27.42sylvanaar_ipadWhere is the fucking FedEx guy??
10:31.18sylvanaar_ipadThat shit better be on the truck
10:31.26Slaymansylvanaar_ipad: what you waiting for?
10:31.57sylvanaar_ipadA contract
10:32.14sylvanaar_ipadWith a check
10:32.32Slaymanoh moneyz I can understand your eagerness now
10:32.50Slaymanthough mailing of checks is really american
10:33.10sylvanaar_ipadHey I asked for a wire
10:33.26Slaymanbut they sad ney
10:33.28Slayman^^
10:33.36Slaymantheir sadists obviously
10:33.48Slaymanor in cahoots with FedEx
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10:54.09sylvanaar_ipadNot even on the truck
10:54.16sylvanaar_ipadFuckers
10:59.10sylvanaar_ipadI take that back...
10:59.58MegalonFUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
11:00.11Megalonwas it under the truck? :(
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11:09.13sbuMegalon: maybe fisker is...
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11:20.53sylvanaarfinally
11:30.49MegalonCOKE AND HOOKER TIME
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11:32.32Stanzillawtb
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11:45.22harli like how those caribou animals in wow sound like the imp monsters in doom 1/2
11:45.34harlalways reminds of that
11:49.47phyberi never noticed, but you are correct.
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12:40.49Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 44 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431
12:41.33sylvanaardown to 66
12:44.49Megalonmakes 151 new tickets on prat
12:48.36starlonlol
12:50.12sylvanaarTorhal: can you move to CC http://www.wowace.com/addons/acp/tickets/43-light-headed/
12:50.46jnwhitehI'd respond, but obviously I can't =)
12:50.50jnwhitehor maybe I can if I login :P
12:50.53jnwhitehdamn curse authentication
12:52.18hastelol
12:52.21sylvanaarits not even a lightheaded ticket jnwhiteh
12:52.32jnwhitehit seems to be..
12:52.53jnwhitehits not a bug, its not a feature request, and I'm the best person to offer the explanation
12:53.00sylvanaarah
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12:53.13sylvanaarthey wont follow up probably
12:55.19jnwhitehcertainly not =)
12:55.23jnwhitehbut it can be moved to CC and closed =)
12:55.54jnwhitehI wonder what the curse detected install-base of LightHeaded is
12:56.01jnwhitehhow many curse points I'm missing out on =)
12:57.19evlHow does WoW handle symlinks, transparently?
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12:58.47jnwhitehnot sure, actually
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13:17.41koaschtenhmmm are macro's disabled on beta?
13:18.04koaschteni just logged on for the first time since last patch and my macros are gone from the action bars and i cant drag them back there.
13:19.08kagarouse macros in general
13:19.14kagaroper char macros are borkne
13:19.17koaschten...
13:19.22koaschtenyeah just fogured that out
13:19.44Megalonfiskered
13:21.29starlonis cygwin the best way to rename a bunch of folders and files under Windows? Or is there something GUI/Windows specific?
13:22.21pompystarlon: which svn client u using?
13:22.28starlontortoise
13:22.39pompyu right click the folder and theres an svn function to rename
13:22.40pompyuse that
13:22.50starlonno way to script it?
13:23.00starlonthere's a lot of files and folders
13:23.20Parnicwhat are you trying to do? rename them all with a new prefix/suffix or something?
13:23.35starlonI'm renaming StarLibs as ScriptableDisplay
13:24.28starlonI guess I should try Google huh? :)
13:24.38Parnici don't think there's anything that will easily help with that...i've only been able to find a handful of for-pay tools
13:24.54Parnicyou could whip up a ruby/perl/etc. script if you're proficient there, of course.
13:25.18pompystarlon: http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-automation.html
13:25.22pompytheres :rename
13:25.34pompyu could try something like that
13:25.35starlonah thanks
13:29.33arkaneswhat
13:29.44arkanesdo you need to rename files, or do you need to rename stuff in an svn repo
13:30.09starlonrename a repo's folders and files.
13:30.21starlonapparently rename similar files doesn't work on folders
13:30.25arkanesthen just use the svn command line
13:31.18arkaneswhat are you renaming exactly?
13:31.34starlonStarLibs-1.0
13:31.39arkanesto?
13:31.42starlonas ScriptableDisplay-1.0
13:31.52starlonLibScriptableDisplay rather
13:32.22arkanessvn move StarLibs-1.0 LibScriptableDisplay-1.0, then
13:32.41starlonHmm
13:32.52starlonThat will rename all the files and folders as well? o.O
13:33.01arkaneswhy would you need to rename all the files and folders
13:33.19starloncause they're all named StarLib*
13:33.32arkaneswell thats silly
13:33.39starlonwhy's that?
13:33.50arkanesredundant namespacing
13:33.51arkanesanyway
13:33.52starlonThey're named after the LibStub major version.
13:34.16mitch0starlon: for i in StarLib*; do svn mv $i $(echo $i | sed 's/StarLib/ScriptableDisplay/'); done
13:34.38starlonguess I'm installing cygwin after all :)
13:34.41starlonthanks
13:34.53SunTsustarlon: do you have a lua interpreter?
13:34.56mitch0parnic: could you reproduce the bazooka nolib issue?
13:34.59starlonyes
13:35.26SunTsustarlon: lua should have file operations, too, why don't you just use them?
13:36.03mitch0suntsu: it won't beat my one-liner :)
13:36.04arkanesdoing file operations instead of svn operations means that svn won't know about the change
13:36.05starlonI was hoping there was something svn specific
13:36.24starlonI'll lose change logs on the files
13:36.39mitch0svn mv <- preservses history
13:36.50mitch0s/typo//
13:37.09SunTsustarlon: or use lua to print out the svn commands and put them into a batch file
13:37.29mitch0oh the joys of working on a broken desktop OS :)
13:38.58Ackis@ping
13:38.58Repopong
13:39.22SunTsumitch0: If I was using Windows I'd have cygwin anyway
13:39.49mitch0I did have it till I got fed up enough and just installed fbsd on my work machine ;)_
13:40.28mitch0cygwin is still a pain compared to the real thing though
13:40.51starloncygwin is slow
13:40.57SunTsuI quit using windows somewhen in the 90s, shortly installed it for WoW again but dumped it for wine
13:41.36starlonI haven't reinstalled Linux since replacing some of my hardware.
13:41.51starlonBut I get a lot of input lag with Wine.
13:42.02starlonLike wasted gcd's
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13:58.25starlonKevin Bacon statue made from bacon. That's a huge waste of bacon.
13:58.59SunTsustarlon: for me wine worked quite fine
13:59.18starlonmaybe it's Fedora
13:59.37starlonI know it's not the Linux network layer
14:00.31starlonI value my GCDs too much though. WoW is the only reason I'm using Windows.
14:00.33SunTsustarlon: I even use fbsd, which wine is not tested on as much as on linux
14:01.29mitch0suntsu: does wow run on fbsd/wine?
14:01.32starlonIt works fine till I get into a tight rotation, then it irritates me with GCD lag.
14:01.38starlonon Wine yes
14:01.48starlonWorks great in fact, except for my issue
14:02.02SunTsumitch0: yeah, using that for some years now
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14:03.47SunTsuit's quite cpu intensive, though. My old Athlon x2 4200+ was too slow when it came to raids
14:04.11SunTsuresulted in 3fps or less during fights
14:04.29mitch0uh
14:06.12SunTsuOn my quad core Phenom I it barely takes up 10% of the cores, no matter whar
14:06.14SunTsuwhat
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14:07.53KalrothWoW is limited by software, not hardware
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14:09.39AxodiousWoW is limited*
14:09.41Axodiousfixed
14:09.50SunTsuKalroth: both cores were at 100% on my old cpu, and I didn't do anything to the OS
14:10.43Kalrothwell your old cpu is just that; old :)
14:11.18SunTsuWoW is older ;)
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14:26.40mitch0suntsu: does wow use all 4 cores?
14:27.08starlononly 2
14:27.15mitch0just about to buy a new comp and dunno if I should go with a 2 core or a 4 core phenom
14:27.32SunTsumitch0: at least it looks like it
14:27.46starlonWine may use all 4 :)
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14:30.16steevwow will use all 4 if you tell iit to
14:30.19SunTsumitch0: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773499400&sid=1
14:30.40SunTsuMoney quote: "The game can use more than 2 cores but the other threads do not do anything intensive. You won't notice performance jumps going from dual to quad."
14:32.12mitch0uhhum
14:32.13mitch0thanks
14:32.54Parnic|Workbut of course if you use your computer to do anything other than wow, more cores is usually better ;)
14:33.55mitch0parnic: don't hide from me! :)
14:34.02Parnic|Worki'm hiding?
14:34.06mitch0could you reproduce the bazooka issue?
14:34.23Parnic|Workwhat, you don't pay attention to your tickets? ;)
14:34.36mitch0I checked this morning :)
14:34.38Parnic|Worki did exactly what you requested the day you requested it
14:34.47mitch0erm
14:34.52Parnic|Workhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka/tickets/16-error-on-login-when-running-disembedded/
14:35.01Parnic|Workblame arrowmaster
14:35.05mitch0wtf
14:35.08mitch0I don't see it
14:35.17Parnic|Workbecause your filter is set to 'all open'
14:35.25Parnic|Workand that ticket is no longer open
14:35.42mitch0ah
14:35.43mitch0:P
14:35.49mitch0I like self closing tickets
14:37.14mitch0wtf is the diff between Phenom II and Phenom II X2 ?
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14:39.56Parnic|Workthe better question is why buy an AMD chip when Intel exists? :P
14:40.47mitch0I'm and ati/amd fanboi, sorry ;)
14:41.06Parnic|Worki didn't know that ati fanboys existed. you're the second one i've talked to in as many days, though.
14:41.31ulichow's their linux support?  it used to suck.
14:41.46mitch0getting better with the open source driver, but still sucks :)
14:42.06mitch0presumably the newer chips work better (as there's no docs for the pre-merger chips)
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14:42.18mitch0I'll report back in a week or so ;)
14:42.39mitch0or, actually, the video card purchase is postponed...
14:44.31pentium166phenom II is the line and phenom II X2 is a processor in that line with two cores?
14:45.03mitch0ok, maybe only this site sucks. both are listed as 2 cores...
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14:45.29pentium166probably just lazy/bad labeling
14:45.31Parnic|Workmitch0: i realize you're an amd fanboy, but i'd encourage you to do some casual google searches for comparisons if you're talking about dropping cash for a new pc. all the benchmarks i see show the i7 clearly beating the phenom ii in just about every test
14:45.55mitch0parnic: yes, I understand that
14:45.56pentium166but then you look at price/performance
14:46.01mitch0but I like supporting AMD :)
14:46.13mitch0&
14:46.13Parnic|Workkk. i guess we can't be friends any more, then. (kidding)
14:48.00starlonlol
14:48.06starlonhisses.
14:50.12FiskerParnic|Work
14:50.21Fiskeryou ruined Borderlands :(
14:50.27Parnic|Workthe heck did i do?
14:50.44Parnic|Workare you talking about the latest dlc or...?
14:50.45SunTsupentium166: Yeah, Phenom II is the CPU type, X2 dualcore, X4 quad
14:50.52MegalonFisker is has borderline
14:51.00Megalonand you ruined the world he lives in, the borderlands
14:51.12Parnic|Worknow everything is clear. thanks, megalon
14:51.30Parnic|Workfisker: i demand that you explain. go.
14:52.17FiskerYou put in some steamworks feature but no steam cloud or matchmaking :(
14:52.30FiskerIf you had put in steam cloud i just might've had my savegame still
14:52.31Fisker:(
14:52.32pentium166I have a phenom II X3 because i didn't feel like spending more at the time :(
14:52.43Parnic|Workah, i see. so adding features to a game that weren't there before is how you ruin it. got it.
14:52.52Parnic|Workyou're welcome that we're still supporting the game a year after release, btw.
14:53.26Fiskeryeah Parnic
14:53.27Fisker:3
14:53.40SunTsuMy laptop with i7 quadcore is going to replace my phenom II very soon now, which in turn will become an ESXi server
14:53.49Fiskeri just realized i didn't still have my old save from armory of knoxx because i had reinstalled
14:54.20Fiskeralso paying 10 (or is it 8?)€ isn't really what i would call support but ok
14:54.21Fisker:P
14:54.24Parnic|Workfisker: ah. it's our fault that you didn't keep up with your save files. qq? :P
14:54.25starlonI'm happy with my q6600
14:54.30starlonfor now
14:54.32pentium166I tried Crawmerax for the first time last night. As soon as I got off the elevator I got punted off the plateau
14:54.33Fiskerobviously Parnic
14:54.49Parnic|Workfisker: whoa now...steam support came in a *free* patch along with all our bug fixes and balance updates, etc.
14:55.03Parnic|Workobviously add-on content is going to be paid, but we're not *just* supporting it with for-pay content, you know
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14:58.30Parnic|Workso did you check out Claptrap's New Robot Revolution?
15:01.24AckisI bugged crawermax out for my first kill
15:02.59pentium166I'm kind of surprised nothing was done about that geometry hole in the armory
15:06.22pentium166I want to get the new DLC but I just bought Civ5 and I've played about 1.2 games so far
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15:18.42FiskerLOL Megalon
15:18.46FiskerTasteless can't computer
15:19.12Axodiouswhen you're installing java you need to install the 32 bit version if you use a 32 bit browser right?
15:19.54Axodiousnvm found answer
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15:22.17MegalonFisker: did you watch? missed it today :<
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15:22.37kagarohrmm how does this look for an example Backdrop with gradient? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/WoWScrnShot_093010_112124.jpeg
15:24.24vhaarrlooks like a backdrop with a gradient .. ?
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15:24.38kagarocorrect
15:24.55kagarobut its independant of the bgFile gradient
15:25.24Funkeh`did someone fuck wiht the forums
15:26.06Funkeh`it doesn't seem to be recognizing the wowace cookie and logging in
15:26.46Axodiouszzz deploying adobe reader blows
15:27.01AckisFunkeh`: servers were moved yesterday
15:27.37Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/announcements/site-migration/
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15:28.30Funkeh`Ackis, I know
15:28.37Funkeh`But my question still stands
15:28.55Funkeh`unless the forum hasn't been moved
15:29.06Ackisit's most likely one of the many things that are still broken, I'll let Kaelten know when he gets in
15:29.17ulicFunkeh` or vhaarr:  Any good suggestions for only having Deadmines or SFK littlewigs modules loading in heroic only?
15:29.36Funkeh`ulic, it's your addon, yuo decide :)
15:29.36Ackisbecause it's fucked for me too it looks like
15:29.40vhaarrloading as in LoD? no
15:30.00vhaarrbut you can implement :VerifyEnable in each module
15:30.06ulicobviously something LoD would be best, but I know that is not so likely.
15:31.05vhaarrfunction mod:VerifyEnable() if difficulty > X then return true end end
15:31.12vhaarror whatever
15:31.33ulicok, thanks for that, I'll look into it.
15:31.48vhaarrself:GetInstanceDifficulty()
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15:33.43Ackishttp://twitter.com/CurseForge/status/25990174323
15:34.23Megalonmy puppy is gone :-(
15:34.44Ackis:(
15:34.50Slaymanyour Puppy is now diamons
15:34.50Ackislost or?
15:34.58Slaymans/diamons/diamonds/
15:35.44Megalon:'(
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15:37.38Ackiscan you go look for it Megalon?
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16:01.17kagarohrmm http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/WoWScrnShot_093010_120007.jpeg
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16:04.46arkanes_gradients!
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16:05.20kagaroya
16:05.21p3limthere we go :)
16:05.31kagarocode is simple as well
16:05.59arkanes_I have some code somewhere that does them for status bars
16:06.00nevcairielis there a wow function for this now, or how did you do that?
16:06.07kagaroi did it
16:06.23arkanes_line by line textures with manual interpolation?
16:06.29kagaroi made a lib based on lilsparky gnomeworks
16:06.40kagarohe had figured all the cutout math already
16:06.45nevcairielthe color gradient code isnt that hard, i had that in HotCandy before
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16:06.58nevcairielbut it only changed the color of the bar smoothly, but didnt show a gradient on the bar itself
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16:07.18kagarosampel code for that screenshot
16:07.20kagarolocal BG = [[Interface\Addons\KgUI\smallframe.tga]]
16:07.20kagarolocal dbLib = LibStub("LibBackdrop-1.0")
16:07.20kagarolocal testFrame = CreateFrame("Frame","kgUITestFrame",UIParent)
16:07.21kagarotestFrame:SetWidth(300)
16:07.21kagarotestFrame:SetHeight(150)
16:07.22kagarotestFrame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",0,0)
16:07.23kagarodbLib:Embed(testFrame)
16:07.24kagarotestFrame:SetBackdrop({bgFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background",
16:07.24kagaro<PROTECTED>
16:07.25kagaro<PROTECTED>
16:07.25kagaro<PROTECTED>
16:07.26kagarotestFrame:SetBackdropBorderGradient("vertical",1,0,0,0.5,1,0)
16:07.27kagarotestFrame:SetBackdropGradient("VERTICAL",0,0,1,0,1,0)
16:07.28kagarolocal nFrame = CreateFrame("Frame","Test2",UIParent)
16:07.28kagaronFrame:SetWidth(300)
16:07.29kagaronFrame:SetHeight(150)
16:07.29kagaronFrame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",-300,-150)
16:07.30kagaronFrame:SetBackdrop({bgFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background",
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16:07.31kagaro<PROTECTED>
16:07.49nevcairielspam!
16:08.12kagaromy bad, i had the code instead of the pasty link in the clipboard
16:08.16arkanes_"SetBackdropGradient" I suppose is the thing that does the real work
16:08.42kagaroya, but i replace the SetBackdrop call as well
16:09.00kagaroso when it goes away the code still works
16:09.23kagaroim still waiting on lilsparky to get back to me
16:09.50kagarosince i used some of his code, waiting on permission form him
16:10.53kagarobut I had noticed a lot of people wanted todo gradient borders
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16:12.52MindWorX`Anyone around with some lua experience?
16:13.00Kaelteng'morning
16:13.01Kaeltenish
16:13.15MindWorX`g'evenin
16:15.12MindWorX`I see addons like Carbonite which shows a players position, and the distance to the player in yards. But the only functions i can find related to position is the map position, which seems to be a scale value on a map texture.
16:15.28MindWorX`Do i need to translate those scale values to yards manually, or is there some easier way i'm missing?
16:15.42nevcairielYou indeed need to know how big the current map is
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16:16.15nevcairielThere are libraries that provide this data, and even functions to calculate distance for you
16:16.22nevcairielAstrolabe or LibMapData, for example
16:16.27quiescensmoo
16:16.40MindWorX`Okay
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16:16.46MindWorX`I'll take a look at those then
16:17.08MindWorX`Thanks a bunch :)
16:17.22MindWorX`Google aint of much help with it comes to wow lua information
16:17.27MindWorX`when*
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16:56.18StanzillaWe'd like to make you aware of the new Real ID-related privacy options we've introduced to Battle.net. These options provide Real ID users with additional tools for customizing the service based on their preferences, enabling the ability to opt in or out of the Real ID "Friends of Friends" and "Add Facebook Friends" features or to turn off Real ID altogether.
16:56.20Stanzillawhat what
16:57.56Zynwut
16:58.30Stanzillahttps://eu.battle.net/account/management/settings/change-communication.html
17:01.29mitchnullfacebook should DIAF
17:01.34Talryn<PROTECTED>
17:02.53TalrynI noticed I still get an error trying to commit.
17:03.10TalrynI removed the SSH known_hosts entries though and even restarted ssh-agent.
17:04.18TalrynNevermind, somehow I didn't delete a line that I thought I deleted.
17:04.42TalrynHoping this is the new fingerprint: 96:aa:8b:36:ff:72:38:18:8c:bf:4a:4f:99:be:c3:a8
17:04.51koaschten_Stanzilla already opted out !
17:04.57Stanzilla^^
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17:05.12nebula169Talryn: loggin yo keys!
17:05.40Talryn:-)
17:05.51Talrynand I wasn't automatically logged into the forums either
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17:11.49TalrynI had turned parental controls on and I just looked and I was already opted out of the Real ID items above.
17:12.19Axodiouswow adobe... wow
17:12.40Axodiousso redoing my home test active directory testing sbs 08 r2
17:12.52Axodiousgo to deploy msi installers, np
17:12.55Axodiousget to adobe reader....
17:13.48Axodiousthe latest installer for reader is 9.3.4, the installer is 9.3.0 with all of the .msp files in the directory and a line "PATCH=mspfileshere"
17:14.09Axodiousso i go to manually patch the 9.3.0 up to 9.3.4, "i'm sorry dave you can't do that"
17:14.29Axodiouseverytime they patch reader it's something new
17:16.18quiescensi'm sorry dave, i'm afraid i can't let you do that
17:16.36Axodiouswhy can't they just do it the same way they do flash/shockwave ?! ugh
17:16.49Axodious"here's the msi installer for you!"
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17:19.41arkanes_adobe writes pretty terrible stuff
17:19.45arkanes_like most software :(
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17:20.21arkanes_I keep reader off my machines, use foxit instead, but corporate IT keeps pushing "updates" to my non-existent reader version and putting it back
17:20.23Axodiousthe only reason i use it instead  of say foxit is because of the secure document junk which is adobe proprietary
17:21.02Axodiousplace i work at has some certificate plugin thing to view some pdfs
17:21.14Axodiousso i get to endure the nightmare that is deploying reader
17:21.27Brunersi use google docs for pdf's
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17:36.55StanzillaAdys: why are the links in the mmoc bluetracker rss feeds broken? :(
17:37.28Adys*shrugs*
17:37.33Adysthe bluetracker is undergoing a revamp
17:37.47Stanzillano quickfix? :
17:37.49Stanzilla:(
17:38.24Kaeltenwe don't have a ruby dev
17:38.33Fiskerwhatever do you mean Stanzilla ?
17:38.35AdysI'm a ruby dev but nobody ever asks me :P
17:38.41Adyswhats your browser Stanzilla ?
17:38.44KaeltenAdys: feel free to fix it :D
17:38.54Adysill see if i can have a look
17:38.57Fiskeri think Stanzilla is still on the old rss feed
17:38.59StanzillaAdys: chrome but the rss reader is thunderbird
17:39.06Fiskeratleast links work fine here in google reader
17:39.12Adysah ok yeah
17:39.18Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/sections.rss
17:39.21Adyscan you give me one of the links?
17:39.48StanzillaAdys: "5c6f47911c0254111731b9805a97cf461285867481/"
17:40.13Adysk, ill have a look tonight, think i know whats going on
17:40.18Adystry checking for an updated feed first
17:40.25Adysthunderbird is a shitty rss reader
17:40.29Adys(use google reader srsly)
17:40.35kagaroarkanes_:  ping
17:40.48StanzillaAdys: should be the correct feed as it is linked on the page itself
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17:43.46arkanes_kagaro: sup
17:44.11Torhalkagaro: Did you let mitch0 know that he doesn't have to futz with that library since you already did?
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17:45.28kagaroya
17:47.28AckisTorhal:  
17:47.46Fiskerhey Ackis
17:47.47Fiskerfuck you
17:47.48TorhalAckis:
17:47.50Fisker:3
17:49.45Humbedoohis that a proposal, Fisker?
17:49.57Fiskeryesh Humbedooh
17:50.08Humbedoohlucky Ackis then
17:52.46TorhalHumbedooh: Jealous, much?
17:53.13Humbedoohat least Ackis can claim he got some tonight
17:53.51Torhal"Man, I got me some sweet trolling today!"
17:54.34HumbedoohI made http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/images/17-render-test-tux/ just for you!
17:56.34ckknightcool, Humbedooh
17:57.55SqueeGit's a bit off humbedooh ;)
17:58.10Humbedoohalways the optimist, SqueeG ;p
17:58.13TorhalHumbedooh: Hehe, nice
17:58.23SqueeGhaha xD
17:58.25TorhalSqueeG: Of course it is - the lib is under development
17:58.35Humbedoohit's got some issues with opacity ye - somehow WoW interprets the values differently
17:58.36KaeltenHumbedooh: wow, pretty cool
17:59.15Humbedoohand I still gotta rework the gradient stuff so it'll work on rotated gradients too
17:59.42SqueeGHoly crap, amigo xD
17:59.53TorhalHumbedooh: I'd say to use your findings to update stuff on WoWWiki, but apparently they're undergoing a split since Wikia is changing a bunch of stuff and their TOU.
18:00.18Humbedoohhm sounds like an idea ye
18:00.21TorhalSo if anyone wants to host the offshoot, talk to kd3
18:00.24TorhalHeh
18:00.45SqueeGA split? O_o
18:00.58nebula169really now, what is wikia changing?
18:01.08Torhalhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F&t=20100930015728
18:01.28quiescenso.o
18:01.58SqueeGthe acting in gran torino is terrible
18:02.55SqueeG*Every* single actor is stiff
18:03.00SqueeGNot to be off topic >.>
18:05.45p3lim7siaxonnwxr
18:05.56p3limwth
18:06.07SqueeGcurse into hosting wikis? >.>
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18:09.24p3lim~botsnack
18:09.24purlp3lim: aw, gee
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18:17.59durcynyou forgot the username, p3lim
18:19.14jnwhitehTorhal: any reason why he shouldn't use his findings to update wowprogramming.com?
18:19.36jnwhitehs/shouldn't/couldn't/
18:21.46quiescensmoo
18:22.49SqueeGHumbedooh, You should use that wow logo as your default pic for the lib
18:22.51SqueeGthat's impressive
18:23.03Torhaljnwhiteh: I keep forgetting it isn't just a reference site
18:23.08TorhalSorry :(
18:23.13jnwhitehno worries
18:23.15jnwhitehits just going nowhere
18:23.30SqueeGI use wowprogramming a lot :p
18:23.32jnwhitehand has a more accurate API listing than wowwiki has
18:23.39TorhalReally? I actually find it more useful that the API docs on WoWWiki
18:23.50jnwhitehI should get in touch with kd3 if they come out from under wikia.
18:23.56jnwhitehTorhal: I was saying its more accurate than wowwiki =)
18:24.14TorhalI was replying to: +jnwhiteh | its just going nowhere
18:24.20jnwhitehoh
18:24.23TorhalHeh
18:24.24jnwhitehi meant it's not disappearing =)
18:24.29jnwhitehas in no fork, no split =)
18:24.35TorhalGood.
18:24.46SqueeGxD
18:25.20SqueeGIt could use some 'examples' though >..
18:25.22SqueeG>.>*
18:25.34quiescenswowwiki was nice for random details about ingame mechanics
18:25.39jnwhitehSqueeG: .. http://wowprogramming.com/snippets
18:25.43quiescensalthough you could never tell whether it was up to date
18:25.45jnwhitehand on the individual API pages
18:25.53SqueeGlol, I meant with the stuff you look up
18:25.55jnwhitehfeel free to add any examples to any page you'd like.. it's fully editable.
18:26.03jnwhitehSqueeG: there ARE examples for many API functions
18:26.05jnwhitehjust not all of them
18:26.07jnwhitehsame as wowwiki
18:26.09SqueeGHuh
18:27.47SqueeGHa, just found one ./facepalm
18:28.33SqueeGOh YEA? the search box still doesn't auto-clear on focus! >.>
18:28.43SqueeGfails at being ornery
18:29.57quiescenso.O
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18:41.20stolenlegacyKaelten, ckknight: have you guys changed the ssl key the server uses? putty just spouted a warning in my face
18:41.33nevcairielread announcements <.<
18:41.44stolenlegacyoops
18:42.29Ackis~lart stolenlegacy
18:42.29purloffers stolenlegacy some herring
18:42.37stolenlegacyAckis: :(
18:43.56p3limlooking for a gnome wifi applet, suggestions are welcome :)
18:44.08Ackisyou deserved it stolenlegacy :P
18:44.25stolenlegacyi go directly to my addon pages if i need them
18:44.31stolenlegacyi never actually hit the front page
18:44.31p3limthe one that came with ubuntu is in the notification area, and its always displaying incorrect information :/
18:44.54quiescensyour computer is out to get you
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18:45.23durcynyou're pretty much stuck with nm-applet
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18:45.56quiescensin what way is it displaying incorrect information
18:46.09durcynand the information is provided by the driver via NetworkManager, so it's not like a different display would accomplish much
18:46.41durcyn(note: networkmanager sucks.)
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18:48.11p3limdurcyn: yeah I figured that out
18:48.19p3limwould love a replacement
18:48.32p3limfinally found a battery applet though
18:48.32quiescensfine!
18:48.35evlHAHAH
18:48.41evlBoth Brewfest mounts in 2 days
18:48.44evlTell me the odds
18:48.55SqueeG....hate you
18:49.20durcynit's either keep NM, hardcode the config in with wpa-supplicant, or replace the wireless card
18:49.35p3limhard to replace the card as its a laptop
18:49.51durcyneasy if it's mini-pcie, hard if it's onboard
18:49.53quiescenseh
18:50.00p3limonboard
18:50.16quiescenswicd is a viable alternative depending on what you need
18:50.19durcynand what exactly is it misreporting?
18:50.26p3limthe connection
18:50.27quiescensi already asked that
18:50.31Ali1331here's a question, why, after installing Windows 7 when I try to login to my guild's SMF forum it sends me to the "index.php?action=login2" page and then stops?
18:50.36quiescenslike 5 or 6 minutes ago
18:50.37p3limits always showing no connection or alert
18:50.39quiescens):
18:50.44Ali1331if I refresh, it asks to resend info and then says the password is incorrect
18:50.59stolenlegacyAli1331: what browser are you using
18:51.00SqueeGwhat browser
18:51.05Ali1331firefox
18:51.06p3limAli1331: dump the cache
18:51.06durcynwell, see, networkmanager, being a piece of shit, doesn't establish the connection until you unlock the gnome-keyring, since that's where it stores the wpa passphrase
18:51.07MoonWitchAli, that has little to do with Win7, it's or your browser, or their site
18:51.33p3limit shows it right for a few minutes
18:51.41p3limthen it either show disconnect or alert
18:51.42Ali1331W7 is the only thing that has changed
18:51.46ckknightAli1331: get chrome
18:51.51quiescensthe keyring should unlock when you log in assuming you enter a password to log in, either way i doubt it is related
18:51.54Ali1331no...
18:52.01durcynthat NM doesn't have a system-level store for WPA/802.1x is egregious
18:52.25p3limI don't have a password on my wireless, I use a mac filter
18:52.51stolenlegacyAli1331: the index.php?action=login2 page is simply blank?
18:52.55Ali1331yes
18:53.14stolenlegacyassuming you don't have a very outdated firefox that looks like a header issue from the server to me
18:53.17quiescensyou can store them for all users with a checkbox
18:53.30quiescensit just defaults to being for the current user
18:53.34stolenlegacytry wiping your cache though
18:53.42p3limyeah i've tried checking off all users
18:54.04quiescensoh i doubt that would fix it, i'm just saying that it does have the option
18:54.13Ali1331oh and ckknight, chrome does the same thing >.<
18:54.17p3limthe NM applet itself looks ok, so graphically there is no problem
18:54.58SqueeGquiescens, probably a problem with the site
18:55.12durcynyou might also try alternative drivers like (ugh) ndiswrapper
18:55.14stolenlegacyAli1331: then it's server related
18:55.18quiescensis in the *other* conversation
18:55.22quiescenslol
18:55.29SqueeGerr
18:55.33SqueeGsorry quiescens
18:55.53SqueeGjust had a conversation about typing while one's mind is one something else :p
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18:56.13Ali1331they're working fine apparently stolenlegacy
18:56.29stolenlegacywell, it's pretty obviously failing php
18:56.47stolenlegacyas long as you have no stupid settings (javascript off, cookies off or similar)
18:57.32quiescensp3lim: i'm inclined to think its probably reporting things accurately, just that its not getting accurate info from the driver or whatever
18:57.44Ali1331well it works fine for everyone else, and no JS/Cookies are not disabled
18:58.21quiescensp3lim: still, you could look into trying wicd as an alternative if you want to drop the default networkmanager
18:59.07p3limcurrently using the Broadcom driver that ubuntu suggested
18:59.47p3limbut I'll try out wicd
19:01.45p3liminstaller failed at starting it :p
19:04.55p3limthere we go, wicd is displaying correct information, though the applet looks like shit :p
19:07.48quiescensshrugs
19:08.14quiescensi use the default networkmanager
19:08.36quiescensbesides, it supports the um
19:08.53quiescensmobile internet thingy
19:09.07quiescenswhereas wicd is for local wireless/wired only
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19:09.28Ali1331no more ideas then?
19:10.03p3limim only using wireless anyways, got n support so its quite strong
19:10.23nevcairielwireless for gaming is fail
19:10.42p3limdid I say I play on the laptop though? :P
19:11.21quiescensi mean the mobile thingy for using it on the move
19:12.04p3limits a $600 laptop that I'm going to use for entertainment/social once I'm shipped off for military duty, so no gaming on it
19:12.18p3limgot my desktop for that
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19:19.42Galvinso the packager picks up on 40000 in the toc and makes a different zip for it that people can tell its for cata and not live?
19:21.05nevcairielpeople could tell, but they don't
19:21.20nevcairielthey use the updater, whill doesn't care, and everyone gets the 4.0 version
19:21.24nevcairielwhich could be broken on live
19:21.31GalvinSo theres no way to have a cata zip download option on curse?
19:21.35p3limquiescens: mobile internet, as in 3G?
19:22.03GalvinI wanted to make it easy for people to download the cata addon version but its going to cause issues i'll just wait.
19:22.42GalvinI like to download mods for cata/ptr so I can get ahead of the game before release.
19:23.25nevcairielthe curse client sadly is not smart enough for that
19:23.48GalvinI guess that's a curse in its self then :P
19:26.16nebula169ah, my bad, i thought when kael added the 4.0.0 game version the client picked up on it
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20:16.51sylvanaarGalvin: one of the most downvoted tickets.... http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1889-substitution-token-for-toc-interface-version/
20:17.12sylvanaaractually the #1 downvoted
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20:18.13sylvanaarthe intent was to solve problems like these - with multiple versions of varying compatiblity
20:19.04nevcairielhow does that solve his problem that he wants to provide a cataclysm version for testing?
20:19.42Ackissylvanaar: you'll notice it's not declined however :P
20:19.58sylvanaarlol Ackis
20:20.00nevcairielYou would still somehow cause a re-packaging
20:20.04nevcairielcould as well bump the toc
20:20.07nevcairielshrugs :D
20:21.33nevcairielthe client (and partly the website) just needs to be aware of the toc
20:21.45Kaeltenhow's it going guys
20:21.59sylvanaaryou know same stuff different day
20:22.28nevcairielhmm
20:22.37nevcairieli wonder if i can fix the damn documenter status page with the stylesheets
20:22.41sylvanaar@project prat-3-0
20:22.44Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 217/431
20:22.54nevcairielall its missing is a damn <pre> tag to look better <.<
20:22.55sylvanaaroop not yet
20:23.04sylvanaarthe documenter works for you nev
20:23.10sylvanaari cant get it to work for me
20:23.14Kaeltenit's not running yet
20:23.24nevcairielapparently its been broken for quite a while for many people
20:23.26Kaeltenspent all morning fixing small things in the packager
20:23.26sylvanaarno i mean ever
20:23.28nevcairielbut the log is just unreadable
20:23.51Kaelten:/
20:23.59sylvanaarit works for some people and not others
20:24.03sylvanaarcant figure out why
20:24.06Kaeltenthats..... not logical
20:24.14arkanes_what we really need, is svnbrowse
20:24.18MegalonFisker
20:24.56Kaeltenoh it's the if userid % has == 3: raise Exception("Not going to happen")
20:25.06Kaeltener
20:25.08sylvanaardoesnt fish support all 3 repo types
20:25.28sylvanaari know it works for ARL, and for CKK's liblinq
20:25.59Megalonhttp://www.livestream.com/samsung
20:26.10MegalonWCG SCBW Fisker
20:26.11Megalonwatch it
20:27.10Megalonflying in dapollo
20:27.11nevcairielfunny
20:27.14Megalonwhen day9 lives next door
20:27.15nevcairielmy css rule works
20:27.20nevcairielbut it freaking escapes html codes
20:27.23nevcairiel<.<
20:27.29Megalonwhat a bullshit wcg seems to be :S
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20:32.37nevcairielyay i fixed the status page
20:32.39nevcairielcss to the rescue
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20:41.35Humbedoohhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/images/19-render-test-wow-logo/ trying some new ways of coloring
20:41.42Humbedoohseems to work smoother than the old way
20:42.53nevcairielhaha you really made the cat happy
20:43.03Humbedoohyes I did ^^
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20:44.04nevcairielthe ring around the W looks somewhat different
20:44.13nevcairielsome weird 3D effect thats not in the reference
20:44.33Humbedoohyeah it's because a lot of the gradients are rotated and radial and such
20:44.43Humbedoohwhich is gonna be a pain to support
20:45.30Humbedoohyou can see on the four edge triangles as well that the gradient ain't rotated
20:49.01nevcairielKaelten: i see the "new" curse points thing doesnt give you individual gains anymore when it "forgot" one, heh
20:50.23Kaeltennope
20:50.27Kaeltenit just redistributes
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20:51.45nevcairielI could go with that for daily gains, though =)
20:52.46Kaeltenlol
20:52.52Kaeltenya double is nice huh?
20:53.53nevcairielCan't complain ;)
20:54.26nevcairielI need to work on my stuff over the weekend though, apparently only 2 weeks left before 4.0 =(
20:54.36MindWorX`Is there a way to check if i'm behind a target or if i can use shred/backstab?
20:54.49nevcairielnop
20:55.16MindWorX`Okay
20:55.37MindWorX`Well, not for npcs atleast, it should be possible for players using maplocation and unitfacing
20:55.53MindWorX`But then it'd only be useful in PvP
20:56.22nevcairielthere is only GetPlayerFacing, not for other units, afaik
20:56.30nevcairieland map location only works for group/raid members
20:56.35koaschten_seriously an alchemy mount?
20:56.36nevcairielso not even pvp
20:56.43MindWorX`Ah
20:56.56nevcairielkoaschten_: hooray
20:57.10nevcairielwonder how it looks
20:57.18nevcairielfinally something really fun for alchemists :D
20:57.33Axodiousall those mounts look cooler in shadowform
20:57.37koaschten_.... bibi got a video nevcairiel
20:57.43Axodiousthe glowing runes on them dont go all shadowed
20:58.05nevcairieloh, i should read text
20:58.11nevcairielthe first frame only said sandstone drake
20:58.35nevcairielwhat do i know to associate those!
20:58.40Axodiousthe alch mount turns you into a drake
20:58.44Axodiousand someone can ride you
20:58.50nevcairielthat sounds dirty
20:58.54Axodioussee what  i did there? yes you did
20:59.06nevcairielbut its awesome
20:59.10nevcairiela passenger mount
21:00.52Axodiousso apparently right now facebook takes up 10% of all internet traffic >_>
21:01.48GagorianI seriously doubt it >_>
21:03.06TorhalI -seriously- doubt it.
21:03.14TorhalI can go all caps, if you'd like.
21:03.32Megalonbut porn takes up 90%
21:03.36Megalonand P2P 80%
21:03.38nevcairiel99% of the traffic is porn, i dont see facebook fitting in there
21:03.40koaschten_oooh euro premade queue down to 3 days, perhaps i get to copy a premade sooon
21:03.43Megalonso you are already at 170%
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21:03.57nevcairielMegalon: many people P2P porn, though
21:03.58nevcairiel!
21:04.03Gnarfozkoaschten_: by then you could just have equipped your transferred one
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21:05.24Megalonlee young ho!
21:07.37p3limwhats the program/applet that shows cpu etc on the top panel here? http://th03.deviantart.net/fs35/PRE/f/2008/298/9/c/Arch_October___08_III_by_BalanceST.png
21:08.02Kaeltensylvanaar: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/252-subversion-1-6/
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21:08.38Kaelten:(
21:08.44Kaeltennevcairiel: ^
21:09.10nevcairiellol
21:09.14Nivwhy does anyone care about 1.6 server side?
21:09.19Nivall you really get is fsfs packing
21:09.24Kaeltenbecause we were using 1.4
21:09.27nevcairielbecause before it was something ancient
21:09.29Nivoh
21:09.31Nivyou're not on 1.5
21:09.35Kaeltennope we weren't
21:09.38Nivso mergeinfo ftl
21:09.49Kaeltenwonder if I need to run any scripts to upgrade the repos
21:09.55Kaeltenor if it'll just happen as time goes by
21:09.55nevcairielyou need to
21:10.01nevcairielit doesnt convert on the fly
21:10.15Nivwere you guys doing any mergeinfo tracking w/ 1.4?
21:10.31nevcairielmerge trackin is also one of the features that requires a 1.5 repo layout <.<
21:10.35Nivnot really
21:10.39Nivsvn:merginfo is
21:10.54Nivbut there was mergetracking happening before that
21:11.01Nivvia svnmerge
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21:11.10NivI just don't know what curse was doing
21:11.32nevcairielmerge tracking before 1.5 was silly though
21:11.37Nivagreed
21:11.49Kaeltenjust to confirm
21:11.57Nivbut I didn't think there was anything else between 1.4->1.5 repo side
21:11.59Kaelten1.6 servers supports old clients
21:12.02Nivthat you would have to upgrae
21:12.05NivKaelten: sadly yes
21:12.12Nivthey cause all sorts of fucking problems
21:12.18Kaeltenlol
21:12.24KaeltenI just don't want to upgrade the repos
21:12.25Nivwe blocked all pre-1.5 clients
21:12.30Kaeltenand then have everyone freak out at me
21:12.33Nivbecause they trash mergeinfo
21:12.38Kaeltenheh
21:12.43Kaeltenhow did you go about doing that?
21:12.45Kaeltena hook?
21:12.46Nivand 1.5 has shitloads of merge issues on the client side
21:12.53Nivyea, want me to send it?
21:12.58Kaeltenmight be best
21:13.07Nivkaelten@curse.com work?
21:13.19Kaeltenbmclemore@
21:13.20Nivor something less obvious
21:13.22Nivk
21:13.29Kaeltennot sure if my kaelten alias is still functioning
21:13.54nevcairielif anyone is still using svn 1.4, they deserve to get broken stuff
21:14.04Nivwe also added a hook to stop people from setting svn:mergeinfo props on anything but the root directory
21:14.14nevcairielspeaking of kaelten alias, there was some guy on the forums having problems with his gift cert, he said he mailed you but never got a response
21:14.17Nivbecause the 1.5 and early 1.6 clients do stupid shit
21:14.18nevcairielpossibly because of that =P
21:14.25Nivevne 1.6.12 does
21:14.28Nivfor some bugs
21:14.47Kaeltenplease share :)
21:14.54Nivnevcairiel: it's nicer to deny the client outright than it is to let them fail because of ignorance ;)
21:15.35NivI don't know that the svn:mergeinfo script I have would scale well enough for curse
21:15.45Nivin fact, I'm sure it wouldn't
21:15.57NivI only have to deal with a handful of repos and a couple hundred devs
21:16.06Nivthey codebase is big, but not a lot of repos
21:16.10Axodioushttp://gizmodo.com/5652348/new-yorks-subway-may-not-survive-tropical-storm-nicole <- scuba diving anyone?
21:19.17nevcairielfirst the repository needs to be converted to the new format anyway, or its pointless :D
21:20.30Nivyea, you have to upgrade the repos for merge tracking if you're coming from 1.4
21:20.33Nivsucks to be you! :)
21:21.00nevcairielI converted most my stuff to git
21:21.09nevcairielonly ace3 is stuck on svn
21:21.16nevcairielbut its not seeing much branching action these days
21:21.26Nivwe use both
21:21.30Nivthey both have issues :)
21:21.39Nivwe even do git-svn
21:21.53nevcairielat work we use svn for everything, although soem devs use gti-svn locally
21:22.52koaschten_this is officialy the worst corpse run
21:22.56Torhalgit-svn has blown up on me at least three times, and building the local repo can be time-consuming.
21:22.57koaschten_die at stormwind harbor
21:22.59koaschten_as horde
21:23.09TorhalIt was like 30 minutes or so for ARL, so I finally just migrated.
21:23.48nevcairielyeah with big repos it can take a while
21:24.00nevcairieli havent had it fail on me yet, though
21:24.06nevcairielits just very fragile on windows
21:24.09nevcairielworks fine on linux
21:24.22nevcairiel(git-svn is, git it self works fine too)
21:24.38TorhalAll three times my local repo ate itself was under Linux.
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21:24.53TorhalEvery time was due to me forgetting to rebase, or there was a bad merge
21:24.53nevcairieloh well
21:25.02nevcairielso its your fault
21:25.03nevcairiel;)
21:25.11TorhalI don't have that problem with git :)
21:25.48nevcairielmigrating is the better choice anyway
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21:36.13starlonDoes the packager not package svn externals?
21:36.43kagaroi dont think the packaer is running right now starlon
21:36.59starlonhmm
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21:39.11SqueeGcurse should steal wowwiki
21:40.42Stanzillanice, hardware acceleration now enabled by default on chrome dev
21:42.53Stanzillaand http://blog.chromium.org/2010/09/webp-new-image-format-for-web.html !
21:46.15kagarorofl Blood caked blades moved to tier 3 .. *waits for a 1000 deathknights tears to fall*
21:46.33SqueeGwow
21:46.52SqueeGif anyone has the power to introduce new web standards... i'd definitely say it's googulz
21:48.17koaschten_saw the hunter nerfs?
21:49.40koaschten_oh Bibi you sneaky french man
21:50.01koaschten_dec. 14th eeh?
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21:54.33Stanzillathat's from the ui stuff
21:54.41Stanzillacause it says season 9 starts there
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21:55.57Amadeohola peoples
21:56.12Amadeogood to see everyone's still at it :)
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21:57.07breeze_How do I give a Frame a fixed width?
21:57.18HumbedoohFrame:SetWidth(12345) ?
21:57.58breeze_can I stop it from resizing? when it's resized it can't get that small anymore :P
21:58.14breeze_I'm using a width of 200
21:59.05Nivstarlon: you mean via svn:externals, or in your package meta?
21:59.17Humbedoohyou mean set a minimum size?
21:59.39starlonNiv: via svn:externals
22:00.01breeze_Humbedooh, Yup. Or stopping it from resizing completely would work too
22:00.09Nivstarlon: you need to use package meta afaik
22:00.16Nivthere's a faq on it
22:00.16Humbedoohframe:SetMinResize(minwidth, minheight);
22:00.51starlonyes, but I can't use the .pkgmeta for a library I don't believe
22:01.23starlonI did and it caused my package to have two copies of libstub
22:01.31starlonin the same folder
22:01.36Humbedoohhow so, starlon?
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22:02.01arkanesbreeze_: normally you must opt in to resizing
22:02.23Humbedoohwith frame:SetResizable(boolean)
22:02.30Nivstarlon: let me find my repo and look
22:02.41arkanesand then do some stuff to wire up the mouse events so that they can actually manipulate the frame
22:03.14arkanesbreeze_: if they're using an addon like MoveAnything or whatever, there's not much you can do to stop them from resizing the frame to whatever size they want. They can call all the same functions you can./
22:03.29Nivstarlon: http://ace.pastey.net/141058
22:03.30Humbedoohhttp://paste.wowace.com/2525/
22:03.33Humbedoohfor breeze_
22:03.47Nivstarlon: I assume you're not checking in stuff in Libs/
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22:04.43Humbedoohwell you can counter it with OnSizeChanged or whatever it's called
22:04.59arkanesbut then they can just unhook your scripts
22:05.01arkanesand so on
22:05.11starlonwell, when I embed the library in another addon, it places the library's .pkgmeta files in the addon's Libs directory, causing two copies of LibStub.lua to exist in the addon's Libs directory.
22:05.32breeze_No methods called SetMinResize or SetResizable? or are you talking about the standard blizzard frame? I'm using AceGUI atm
22:05.38Humbedoohtell the packager to ignore .pkgmeta files in sub folders?
22:05.53starlonhmm
22:05.57kagarowhats your externals look like starlon?
22:05.59Humbedoohit's a standard API call ye
22:06.15starlonsvn:externals?
22:06.20kagaroyes
22:06.35kagaroin your .pkgmeta
22:06.55Humbedoohif you wanna "hack" the AceGUI stuff, you can do frame.frame:SetMinResize
22:07.17Humbedoohfx, local myframe = AceGUI:Create("Frame"); myframe.frame:SetMinResize(x,y)
22:07.35starlonhttp://ace.pastey.net/141059
22:08.16Humbedoohlibraries shouldn't have .pkgmeta included though...sounds a bit odd
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22:09.59starlonHmm LibQTip has a .pkgmeta
22:10.08jnwhitehKaelten: 60 days inactivity on Curseforge?
22:10.10starlonit embeds LibStub
22:10.14jnwhitehwtfzors?
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22:10.22Kaelten?
22:10.35breeze_Humbedooh: How can I add an AceGUI group as child of the standard frame?
22:10.37jnwhitehNinjaPanel just got marked as inactive
22:10.52jnwhitehfixed it
22:10.56jnwhitehbut was surprised
22:11.17Humbedoohbreeze_: aceframe:SetParent(parentFrame)
22:11.30Kaeltenoh ya, that
22:11.31Humbedoohand then to string it up, use aceframe:SetAllPoints
22:11.37breeze_thanks :)
22:11.38Kaeltenit's a questionable policy that I've been debating changing
22:11.42Kaeltenthe cron that takes care of that
22:11.47jnwhitehat least it emails =)
22:11.47Kaeltenhas been broke for weeks (months?)
22:11.53Kaeltenuntil today
22:11.59jnwhitehah, heh
22:12.16Kaeltennow new git repos aren't being made properly
22:12.18Kaeltenand I don't know why
22:12.34jnwhitehbah
22:14.51koaschten_hmm anyone can log on beta mekkatorque?
22:17.56ShadowedWe're sorry, your project, Damn Unit Sounds (http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/damn-unit-sounds/), has been marked as inactive on CurseForge.
22:17.57Shadowedwat
22:18.01Shadowedsince when did things get markedinactive
22:18.03Shadowedautomatically
22:18.11SqueeG<PROTECTED>
22:18.15Shadowedalso its been more like a year
22:18.18SqueeGwhere's vol'jin? >.>
22:18.21Shadowednot 60 days
22:18.29ShadowedKaelten did you break some notifier
22:18.31Megalonkoaschten_: yes ;x
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22:26.03Adys~seen tuller
22:26.11purltuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 4h 13m 21s ago, saying: 'i've purposefully forced myself to not look at the sc2 editor'.
22:27.01Humbedooh~seen my_glasses
22:27.02purli haven't seen 'my_glasses', Humbedooh
22:27.08Humbedooh:(
22:28.36bluspacecow~seen my sex life
22:28.38purlbluspacecow: i haven't seen 'my sex life'
22:28.54bluspacecow>_>
22:29.00bluspacecow*giggles*
22:29.05Megalon~seen educated american
22:29.06purli haven't seen 'educated american', Megalon
22:29.15Megalonhurr durr
22:29.27Megalonalso works with other nations
22:29.30Megalon~seen funny german
22:29.31purli haven't seen 'funny german', Megalon
22:29.50Adys~seen denmark
22:29.50purli haven't seen 'denmark', Adys
22:29.55AdysYep
22:30.03Adyslooks at Kalroth and doesn't see anything
22:30.32Megalonisn't denmark part of the rotten fish eaters club
22:30.38Humbedoohnooo
22:30.52Humbedoohthat's the swedes
22:30.55Megalonwith all da norsks
22:30.56Megalonand fins
22:30.59Megalonand swedes
22:31.05Connor1My city has a Political Animals Club.
22:31.09Connor1Whatever that means
22:31.33Megalonhttp://pw0nd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/rotten.jpg
22:31.42Humbedoohsoooo, when will Repo start working again, huh huh?
22:31.59bluspacecowwhen fisker stops humping it
22:32.31Humbedoohso...never? ;(
22:32.44bluspacecowlolz
22:32.56bluspacecowI r kidding
22:33.06Megalonit is repo humping Fisker
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22:47.48starlonI guess my problem with the 2 LibStubs was due to something else other than having a .pkgmeta in my library. *shrug* It works fine now.
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23:14.04arkanesI guess I better finish my addons, if 4.0 is gonna launch so soon
23:14.37bluspacecownah
23:14.41bluspacecowdo it when it hits :D
23:14.53bluspacecowmore certainty over Lua api changes that way :)
23:16.02Humbedooh"so soon"...
23:16.07Humbedoohthat's quite a relative term ;p
23:19.16arkanesHumbedooh: signs are pointing next week or the one after
23:20.18Humbedoohas in October? o.O
23:20.30arkanesthe 5th
23:20.30arkanesyes
23:20.33nebula1694.0.1 by the 12th
23:20.44arkanesHumbedooh: thats 4.0, not cata
23:21.01Humbedoohah
23:21.02Axodiouscata is dec 7
23:21.04Axodioussupposedly
23:21.07Humbedoohwell that makes more sense ;p
23:21.08Axodioushttp://www.mmo-champion.com/content/
23:21.27arkanesman
23:21.33arkaneslog in to work on it and server restart in 15
23:21.47starlontypical
23:22.26Axodiouspersonally i think there's going to be a pretty big 4.1 pretty quick after release... been following the forums a bit and a lot of people have problems with their class
23:22.57Axodiousthey're just trying to get it out for christmas sales
23:23.15arkanesthe mechanics all feel pretty good good
23:23.22nebula169like blizzard needs xmas to drive sales
23:23.28arkanes90% of the qq is about not doing enough damage, which is easily remedied
23:23.29nebula169its not really something you gift someone
23:23.47Axodiousnah arkanes, there's a few classes that just feel meh overall
23:23.51arkaneslast build had damage buffs for a lot of the classes that were hurting, like pallies and rogues
23:24.11arkanesAxodious: I've only leveled to 85 on my pally, but I've touched most of my toons and I don't see much to complain about in any of them
23:24.15nebula169and 4.1 won't be until the next raid tier is out
23:24.26arkanesaside from "I don't like blizzards direction", which isn't something thats going to change
23:24.43nebula169people will find anything to bitch about
23:24.52NivI logged in
23:24.54Nivand did NOT get a pony
23:25.00Nivwtf is that shit
23:25.15arkanesspeak for yourself
23:25.21arkanesI logged in and got *2* ponies
23:25.39Nivyou bastard, give me my pony
23:26.32NivBibi has gotten good at dodging my IMs, about time!
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23:32.05Bibidoesn't have anything to do with you
23:32.07Bibijust with stupid questions
23:32.16ckknightbow before me, Bibi!
23:32.18Nivhaha
23:32.30Bibickknight: you wish!
23:32.34Nivhow was that a stupid question, I know nothing of your model tools!
23:32.36ckknightbah
23:32.45ckknightjust bend over, then
23:35.02Humbedoohsheesh, had to rename my character four times just to log on now ;<
23:36.05HumbedoohI blame you, Bibi!
23:36.35Blu|Foods<3 new hak5 podcast
23:37.08Humbedoohsooo, any updates on poor mr. Repo?
23:38.02Blu|OhNomNomNomand yes
23:38.06Blu|OhNomNomNomi installed steam
23:38.15Blu|OhNomNomNomand downloaded and played Torchlight :D
23:39.20Blu|OhNomNomNomIMHO Blizzard should put out a major patch on a day _other_ then Tuesday for the US realms
23:39.34Blu|OhNomNomNomjust to F**** with our heads :)
23:40.13Humbedoohoh yes, let's have that discussion again :p
23:40.21Humbedoohwith how the French suck and whatnot
23:42.11Humbedooh"You have no active World of Warcraft Accounts Attached"...
23:42.14Humbedoohhmmm, yes I do :(
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23:45.49YssarilBibi: you have Pyrium-Laced Crystalline Vial listed twice in the reagent list for Vial of the Sands
23:46.19Blu|OhNomNomNomhi bibi
23:46.40Nivso if cataclysm launches on december 7th, pearl harbor day what? :)
23:47.22Nivthat's all my 5 year annversary. I would if I'd get a divorce for playing wow all day :)
23:53.03Humbedoohhmm "You have no active Catalysm Beta Accounts Attached " ;(
23:53.09Humbedooh~stab forum
23:53.09purlACTION runs at forum with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
23:53.40nebula169Humbedooh: I usually have to relog on the beta forums
23:54.17HumbedoohI'm logged on but it keeps saying I don't have any characters
23:54.33HumbedoohI think it tries to pull data off my WoW1 account and not WoW2
23:55.33Humbedoohand WoW1 is the wotlk ptr and not cataclysm ptr :\
23:56.11kagaro*waits for repo to build packages*
23:56.41nebula169isn't wow1 beta, and wow2 ptr?
23:56.55nebula169ah
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23:57.45Blu|OhNomNomNomusing the right client ?
23:58.41Humbedoohye ye, it just thinks that WoW1 is my cata account, which it isnt
23:59.05Humbedoohsince I got both a ptr account for cataclysm and for wotlk (dunno why)
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