00:00.33 | Humbedooh | try adding print(a,b) at the start of the sort function |
00:06.26 | Kaelten | can someone ping repos.wowace.com and see what ip it points to? |
00:07.00 | Arrowmaster | repos.wowace.com.1800INA68.64.47.56 |
00:08.17 | Humbedooh | 69.57.184.216 here |
00:08.41 | Yssaril | same as Arrowmaster here |
00:08.42 | Kaelten | ugh ok in a git repo, I'd imagine that the objects/tmp_xxxx files are important |
00:08.57 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
00:09.14 | Arrowmaster | you guys did set the TOL short before the move right? |
00:09.22 | Arrowmaster | or do you always keep it that short? |
00:10.21 | Arrowmaster | looks like its at 30 minutes right now so Humbedooh should be getting the correct address in less than 30 minutes |
00:10.33 | Kaelten | oh the ttl? |
00:10.36 | Kaelten | ya it's always 30 mins |
00:10.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah ttl |
00:10.55 | Kaelten | on some of the services we set it to 60s |
00:11.00 | Kaelten | to move |
00:11.16 | Yssaril | Kaelten: also amazon gift cards could use restocking especially with the holidays comming up |
00:11.26 | Kaelten | order already requested :) |
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00:12.36 | Kaelten | tekkub: any idea on those tmp files? |
00:12.39 | Yssaril | also how often do you guys update the currency conversions |
00:13.01 | Kaelten | whever the people in san fran tell me too |
00:13.40 | quiescens | moo |
00:14.42 | Yssaril | you should automate it and update every week :) |
00:14.50 | Kaelten | not my call sadly |
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00:15.07 | Yssaril | hehe |
00:16.02 | Arrowmaster | oh cool when did you guys make the points generation log have a daily total |
00:17.38 | Arrowmaster | hmm i still need to fill out that W9 so i can claim my $3127.85 |
00:18.38 | starlon | o.O |
00:18.54 | Arrowmaster | thats over a years worth of points |
00:19.00 | starlon | nice |
00:19.06 | starlon | how do I sign up? lol |
00:19.09 | Wobin | I need to get my 500 |
00:19.19 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: I did that a month or two ago |
00:20.47 | Yssaril | speaking of which Kaelten: https://www.wowace.com/home/item-codes/ seams to be down |
00:21.03 | Kaelten | Yssaril: how so |
00:21.07 | Kaelten | just loaded for me |
00:21.21 | doom0r | Server not found |
00:21.34 | Yssaril | hmm yea stopped connecting to anything wowace right now |
00:21.36 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: is ckknight not allowed to redeem his points or something? |
00:21.48 | Yssaril | forums are fine though |
00:21.49 | ckknight | I am |
00:22.18 | ckknight | well, if I turn in forms |
00:22.56 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you do realize youve got over $20,000 in points right? |
00:23.09 | ckknight | stay out of my finances |
00:23.18 | Arrowmaster | give me some and ill shut up |
00:23.25 | Kaelten | your not his type |
00:23.26 | Yssaril | lol |
00:23.30 | Kaelten | you're* |
00:23.44 | Humbedooh | he's more into Fisker |
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00:24.58 | Humbedooh | now I got the dns update for repos, yay |
00:25.02 | Humbedooh | just need the www thing :< |
00:25.12 | Kaelten | ya thats our dns providor having a bug |
00:25.16 | Kaelten | it'll work itself out shortly |
00:25.24 | Kaelten | repos still don't work |
00:25.26 | Kaelten | but that's where they will be |
00:25.30 | Humbedooh | hm ye says no dns record exists ;< |
00:25.34 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: why is 'Test Bravo' earning points? |
00:25.48 | ckknight | must be that people have it downloaded |
00:25.59 | kagaro | rofl |
00:26.07 | Humbedooh | it's his Test Delta that's downloading it on a daily basis |
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00:27.32 | Arrowmaster | i had to double check that my LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 was earning more points than his Test Bravo |
00:28.35 | Humbedooh | the secret to earning points is not working on your project, Arrowmaster |
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00:30.45 | Arrowmaster | man looking over my projects is ammusing |
00:30.48 | Arrowmaster | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/project-14092.aspx |
00:30.52 | Arrowmaster | this still earns me points |
00:31.02 | Arrowmaster | i didnt even know that had comments |
00:33.39 | quiescens | project-14092 you say |
00:34.00 | Axodious | wth did it do |
00:34.01 | Axodious | lol |
00:34.02 | starlon | my search-fu fails me, and some things are down atm. how do I get involved with the reward points? |
00:34.34 | starlon | or is it I'm already involved with it and I'm just not gaining points? :) |
00:34.39 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: if you held down one mouse button and double tapped the other button it would turn on autorun |
00:35.36 | Arrowmaster | starlon: goto http://www.wowace.com/home/ and find a thing to sign up |
00:35.37 | Humbedooh | it's automatornized, starlon |
00:36.06 | Humbedooh | you will have to pay a deposit of 2 puppies |
00:36.16 | SqueeG | not the puppies! |
00:36.34 | Arrowmaster | whats next, playing poker for kittens |
00:36.35 | Humbedooh | yes! |
00:36.46 | starlon | lol |
00:37.00 | SqueeG | nice |
00:37.26 | starlon | so the fact that I haven't received a single point just indicates my addons aren't popular enough right? |
00:37.56 | Arrowmaster | no you have to sign up first |
00:38.09 | starlon | oh the puppies. right |
00:39.15 | starlon | Where do I sign my soul away? |
00:39.24 | Groktar | nibbles on starlon's soul |
00:39.32 | starlon | I need that thanks. |
00:39.39 | Groktar | om nom nom |
00:39.39 | starlon | IT's going to make me rich. |
00:40.32 | Axodious | wow |
00:40.35 | Axodious | im pissed @ microsoft |
00:40.39 | Axodious | so |
00:40.42 | starlon | only just now? |
00:40.46 | Groktar | products microsoft from evil Axodious |
00:40.49 | Groktar | er |
00:40.51 | Groktar | protects |
00:41.11 | Axodious | sonic 4 is coming out in oct and is only available via download from playstation, wii, xbox, iphone stores |
00:41.24 | Axodious | for xbox you need 1600 microsoft points to buy it |
00:41.34 | Axodious | the game cards in the US are 1600 |
00:41.39 | Axodious | the game cards in canada are 1400 |
00:41.40 | Arrowmaster | wtf $20? |
00:41.40 | Axodious | :| |
00:41.42 | starlon | bleh |
00:41.59 | Axodious | unless i can find a site online that sells the american cards it's gonna cost extra to buy it |
00:42.05 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: amazon.com |
00:42.25 | Axodious | shipping etc probably defeats the purpose :( |
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00:42.48 | Axodious | yay the site i usually get this stuff form has it |
00:42.49 | Arrowmaster | you get free shipping on orders $25 and up |
00:43.06 | quiescens | o.O |
00:43.10 | doom0r | that amazon fills |
00:43.20 | Axodious | OHWAIT |
00:43.24 | Axodious | just to top it off |
00:43.31 | Axodious | YOU CANT USE THE USA CODE ON CANADA ACCOUNTS! |
00:43.44 | Axodious | wow :| |
00:43.48 | Arrowmaster | your fault for living in canada |
00:44.09 | Axodious | microsofts fault for being stupid! |
00:44.20 | Axodious | they could just sell the same card in canada and add 5$ |
00:45.30 | Arrowmaster | can you buy points from the dashboard? |
00:45.38 | Axodious | i can buy them from their site |
00:45.40 | Axodious | in 1k blocks |
00:45.56 | Axodious | no matter what i've gotta buy extra points to get it |
00:46.04 | Arrowmaster | are you sure? they used to sell them in 500 point blocks on the dashboard but then changed it |
00:46.17 | Axodious | was just looking at it on the website |
00:46.20 | Axodious | not the actual board |
00:46.20 | Arrowmaster | now they sell them in 400 point blocks |
00:46.35 | Axodious | oh my bad |
00:46.37 | Axodious | yeah i can get 500 |
00:46.50 | Axodious | still puts me 100 off |
00:47.22 | Arrowmaster | you are looking on the xbox right? |
00:47.33 | Arrowmaster | they dont sell in 500 point blocks anymore for the US |
00:47.52 | Arrowmaster | i would think they would make that change everywhere |
00:49.10 | Axodious | https://live.xbox.com/en-CA/Flows/BuyPoints/ChooseOffer.aspx |
00:49.15 | Axodious | dunno if you can see that |
00:49.34 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you want to chime in on this discussion? |
00:49.40 | Axodious | shows on teh us site too |
00:49.45 | Axodious | change the en-CA to en-US |
00:49.50 | Groktar | is king of everything |
00:50.45 | SqueeG | being 100 points off is better than needing to buy 2 cards |
00:50.59 | Axodious | how do i get the extra 100 points to buy the game |
00:51.05 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: that page you linked shows in 400 point increments for me |
00:51.14 | Axodious | shows 500 here |
00:51.15 | Axodious | lol |
00:51.19 | Axodious | crafty buggers |
00:51.59 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you there? |
00:53.02 | Arrowmaster | http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=CanadaAckis |
00:53.05 | Arrowmaster | hes watching a movie |
00:53.23 | quiescens | stalking people |
00:53.28 | Axodious | rofl |
00:53.38 | Torhal | Ackis is secretly an underwear gnome. |
00:54.03 | Axodious | peglle |
00:54.04 | Axodious | really? |
00:54.09 | Axodious | peggle* |
00:56.01 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: the other option is to wait and see if they sell codes for the game, you can buy codes for XBL marketplace content in stores |
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00:57.31 | Axodious | dunno if they do that in canada |
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02:19.24 | Humbedooh | work faster, Kaelten!! |
02:19.38 | Humbedooh | puppies are dying |
02:27.17 | Kaelten | :( |
02:27.30 | Kaelten | my puppy has heartworms |
02:27.35 | Kaelten | we take her in tommorrow to treat |
02:27.39 | Kaelten | she could die |
02:27.43 | Torhal | :( |
02:28.06 | SqueeG | Kaelten, she should be fine unless she's had them before |
02:28.16 | Kaelten | no and we caught them early |
02:28.27 | Kaelten | and we've spent the last month getting her healthy enough to go through this |
02:28.38 | Kaelten | when we got her she was heartworm, whip worm, and hook worm positive |
02:28.44 | Kaelten | also about 20 pounds under weight or so |
02:28.47 | SqueeG | Holy shity @_@ |
02:28.56 | SqueeG | Where you get her from D: |
02:29.16 | Kaelten | a private individual in Chattanooga |
02:29.30 | Kaelten | she obviously wasn't taken very good care of, and we couldn't leave her |
02:29.37 | SqueeG | indeed |
02:29.48 | SqueeG | hire some ninjas to stab that person in the face x.O |
02:30.21 | SqueeG | What breed? :D |
02:30.22 | Kaelten | yeah, thought about it, I mean we could count her vertabre and ribs with precision |
02:30.32 | Kaelten | she's a 2 year old great dane |
02:30.50 | SqueeG | o.o;; |
02:30.55 | SqueeG | That's a lot of dog xD |
02:30.59 | Kaelten | indeed |
02:31.10 | Kaelten | not the best pic |
02:31.11 | Kaelten | http://twitpic.com/2ou0vh |
02:31.16 | Kaelten | she's filled out some since then |
02:31.44 | Kaelten | http://twitpic.com/2ou0vf |
02:31.50 | SqueeG | aw xD |
02:32.45 | Kaelten | yeah she's turning out to be real pretty |
02:33.17 | SqueeG | how much longer till she's full grown? |
02:33.25 | SqueeG | Does she still try to be a lap dog? :p |
02:33.33 | Kaelten | pretty sure she is full grown just sitll underweight |
02:33.35 | Kaelten | and ya sometimes |
02:33.44 | Kaelten | it's interesting when the most she can get in your lapis her front paws |
02:34.05 | SqueeG | haha xD They are rather huge |
02:34.15 | Wobin | =O |
02:34.22 | Wobin | would you like some dog with your worm, Kaelten? |
02:34.42 | Kaelten | I'll take the dog leave the worms on the side plz |
02:34.58 | Kaelten | ugh, I need to get this repo server done |
02:35.32 | Zhinjio | Ackis will eat the worms. Yum yum. |
02:35.38 | Wobin | is going to take some time to do the things he never has |
02:35.55 | Humbedooh | daaw, a goggie |
02:36.21 | SqueeG | Roar at this mulgore tourguide D=< |
02:39.22 | sylvanaar | who got civ5? should i get it? |
02:39.51 | SqueeG | I want civ5 T__________T |
02:39.55 | Zhinjio | I got it, and yeah, its pretty darn cool |
02:40.02 | sylvanaar | ok |
02:40.10 | Zhinjio | I would definitely call it an improvement over previous versions |
02:40.14 | Zhinjio | and its very pretty |
02:40.26 | sylvanaar | did you get the $50 one or the $60 one |
02:40.54 | Zhinjio | well, I pre-orderd on steam awhile, so I got the $60 one for $45 |
02:40.57 | Zhinjio | or something like that |
02:40.59 | Zhinjio | I don't remember |
02:41.06 | sylvanaar | =( |
02:41.12 | SqueeG | what's thre difference? |
02:41.24 | sylvanaar | i dont knw |
02:41.26 | Zhinjio | comes with an expansion pack |
02:41.35 | Zhinjio | some extra map thinger, I think |
02:41.44 | Zhinjio | or leader type or something |
02:41.46 | sylvanaar | soundtrack |
02:41.48 | Zhinjio | I didn't look into it too heavily |
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02:43.50 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: my +v didnt stick (rofl) |
02:44.16 | sylvanaar | you guys need to check out my Lua IDE...i need lots more feedbacks |
02:44.20 | Zhinjio | was about to make a "thats what your mom said" joke, but then decided it didn't really work there |
02:45.03 | sylvanaar | i've asked them about how to make a standalone version of it |
02:45.21 | sylvanaar | but right now...you still gotta use intelliJ |
02:45.57 | Thrae | sylvanaar: I still enjoy kergoth's tweaked Vim configuration. |
02:46.20 | sylvanaar | help a brother out... |
02:46.23 | Thrae | Specifically, gvim64. |
02:46.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v sylvanaar] by Kaelten |
02:47.13 | sylvanaar | thanks Kaelten |
02:47.33 | SqueeG | sylvanaar : I've installed it but haven't really played with it |
02:47.51 | sylvanaar | i can give you a feature tour SqueeG |
02:47.56 | Kaelten | np |
02:48.00 | Kaelten | that one wont stick either though |
02:48.13 | sylvanaar | lol i know, ill try not to log out |
02:48.28 | sylvanaar | +special for a day |
02:48.31 | Parnic | sylvanaar: how i get it? |
02:48.49 | sylvanaar | Parnic: theres a forum post...holdon |
02:49.14 | sylvanaar | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18501 |
02:49.24 | sylvanaar | the code formatter is a good place to start - its neat |
02:49.30 | sylvanaar | no pun intended |
02:49.32 | SqueeG | I saw you can run your code in it |
02:50.01 | sylvanaar | yep |
02:50.04 | Parnic | so...why would i install intellij again? :P |
02:50.13 | sylvanaar | because you love me |
02:50.24 | Parnic | but....but i love notepad++ too! :P |
02:50.44 | sylvanaar | i know - but but but...you want to help me out with your valuable feebacks |
02:50.57 | SqueeG | xD |
02:51.10 | SqueeG | what feedback are you in need of? |
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02:51.24 | sylvanaar | usability, features to add, etc |
02:52.33 | sylvanaar | exceptions during use...there is an automated exception reporter |
02:52.35 | Parnic | mindspring.com? lol |
02:52.39 | sylvanaar | hay |
02:52.58 | sylvanaar | did you see "Something Somthing Dark Side" |
02:53.09 | Parnic | nah, i really don't like family guy |
02:53.16 | sylvanaar | "Yes....compuserve.com....." |
02:54.03 | sylvanaar | my email is about as old as some of you |
02:54.09 | SqueeG | I should be home tomorrow I could poke at it then |
02:54.51 | sylvanaar | ok |
02:55.44 | sylvanaar | civ5 needs a streaming downloader |
02:55.57 | Parnic | civ v needs a better tutorial for people who haven't played civ before |
02:57.59 | sylvanaar | it looks cool - i cant sleep, and I cant get a 5 man going on beta |
02:58.10 | sylvanaar | sounds like it will solve my problem |
02:58.47 | sylvanaar | in about 20-30 minutes |
02:58.59 | SqueeG | Civilization solves ALL problems |
02:59.32 | sylvanaar | i havent played in years |
02:59.51 | SqueeG | Alpha Centaurai was my favorite O_o |
03:00.23 | SqueeG | Although I guess that doesn't count... |
03:01.20 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
03:01.30 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 34 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
03:01.41 | sylvanaar | 217! |
03:01.45 | Parnic | slacker |
03:01.50 | Parnic | @project ice-hud |
03:01.52 | Repo | Parnic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/. IceHUD. Game: WoW. Parnic (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 hours ago. Tickets: 3/77 |
03:02.28 | Yssaril | sylvanaar: you should just start a prat-4 that would get rid of all your tickets :P |
03:02.40 | Yssaril | @project yssbossloot |
03:02.41 | Repo | Yssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssbossloot/. YssBossLoot. Game: WoW. yssaril (Manager/Author). Updated: 17 days ago |
03:02.51 | sylvanaar | Yssaril: not a bad idea |
03:03.06 | sylvanaar | Prat 4 - no new features - just no more tickets |
03:03.13 | Yssaril | hehe |
03:04.42 | SqueeG | 217 tickets about what? xD |
03:05.17 | sylvanaar | who the heck knows |
03:05.18 | Parnic | was just reading the comments on prat's curse page...i love people who complain about an addon and threaten to stop using it or say they've stopped using it |
03:05.19 | Humbedooh | dead puppies |
03:05.21 | Parnic | i'm like "and?" |
03:05.23 | Humbedooh | :( |
03:05.33 | sylvanaar | did you see my response to that guy |
03:05.37 | Parnic | yeah :P |
03:05.55 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Emacs. |
03:05.56 | Torhal | :D |
03:06.17 | Parnic | i always feel like saying "i'm sorry that this completely free addon developed in my spare time doesn't live up to your standards." but i never do. |
03:06.20 | SqueeG | can authors merge repetative tickets? |
03:06.33 | Parnic | you can mark one as a duplicate, but i don't think you can merge |
03:06.35 | Torhal | SqueeG: No, just mark it as invalid |
03:06.37 | pompy | SqueeG: just mark as dup |
03:06.43 | Torhal | Or that |
03:06.45 | SqueeG | gh3y |
03:06.46 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
03:06.46 | purl | gives Torhal an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Torhal to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
03:07.07 | sylvanaar | i always feel bad when i mark tickets invalid or rejected |
03:07.07 | SqueeG | gawd! *storms off* |
03:07.35 | sylvanaar | so i rarely do it |
03:07.43 | sylvanaar | i have a wish list milestone |
03:07.57 | Arrowmaster | i think 99% of all tickets ive closed have been marked as invalid |
03:08.01 | Parnic | i mark it invalid when people tell me that the right-click drop down taints when they select 'focus' :P |
03:08.01 | sylvanaar | that pretty much = declined |
03:08.39 | sylvanaar | OMG i cant click on links on the chatframe.... |
03:08.49 | sylvanaar | thats a common one |
03:09.16 | SqueeG | haha |
03:09.37 | SqueeG | well leaving solved tickets around is a good idea in hopes people read them right/ |
03:09.40 | SqueeG | ?* >.> |
03:09.49 | sylvanaar | we need a "closed with love" option |
03:10.05 | Parnic | and a "closed with please-never-report-any-more-tickets-ever-again" option |
03:10.35 | sylvanaar | i suggested auto-aging, after 30 days if they dont update their ticket - it auto-closes |
03:10.49 | Arrowmaster | i just completely disabled all tickets on cartographer2 |
03:10.54 | Arrowmaster | and disabled comments |
03:11.00 | Arrowmaster | and said FUCK USERS |
03:11.54 | SqueeG | yes but you're rather ornery Arrowmaster xD |
03:12.02 | sylvanaar | lol Arrowmaster |
03:12.18 | SqueeG | I thought Cart was being abandoned |
03:12.27 | Arrowmaster | it was |
03:12.28 | arkanes | maybe it just looks abandoned |
03:12.32 | arkanes | because FUCK YOU |
03:12.33 | Arrowmaster | the users just never fucking learned |
03:12.48 | Arrowmaster | and kept reporting things after it was abandoned |
03:13.40 | SqueeG | brand loyalty xD |
03:13.41 | Yssaril | Kaelten: are repos still down? |
03:13.53 | harl | http://www.windwolf.de/wow/WoWScrnShot_093010_045804.png |
03:14.32 | Yssaril | Kaelten: i get "Permission denied (publickey)." fatal error |
03:15.17 | harl | i like how the game lets me do stupid stuff sometimes, but why is there anything solid above a geyser *at all* in the first place.. |
03:17.05 | Yssaril | has anyone been able to commit to the repos recently? |
03:17.25 | Arrowmaster | @ping |
03:17.26 | Repo | pong |
03:17.44 | Kaelten | Yssaril: still down |
03:17.47 | Kaelten | working on it now |
03:17.47 | Arrowmaster | the bot is here so if anybody commited we would know |
03:24.32 | Kaelten | ugh I'm either feeling nauseous or hungry |
03:24.34 | Kaelten | not sure which |
03:25.59 | Arrowmaster | im bored |
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03:32.59 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Take over for Kaelten, then. Let the man eat. |
03:34.00 | starlon | for some reason AceAddon-3.0 is causing my addon to load with 1.9s CPU time to start, higher than any other addon. I've tried the latest tag and revision both. Anyone have any guesses why this would happen? |
03:34.15 | Primer | svn down? |
03:34.48 | Yssaril | Primer: all repos are down |
03:34.53 | Primer | lovely |
03:36.15 | Yssaril | Primer: down due to serve change Kaelten is working on it but he is food deprived atm |
03:36.33 | SqueeG | french fries! :D |
03:37.30 | Torhal | starlon: Define "to start" |
03:37.50 | starlon | on-load |
03:37.59 | Kaelten | Primer: working on it mate :) |
03:38.31 | Torhal | starlon: What's the big deal, then? It's a one-time CPU usage. |
03:38.31 | Primer | Kaelten: I love you |
03:38.32 | starlon | hmm it doesn't happen when it's the only addon loaded |
03:38.40 | Torhal | It's probably happening when embedding other libraries |
03:38.44 | starlon | I know. It's just bugging me. |
03:38.46 | Torhal | starlon: Oh |
03:38.53 | Torhal | You're not running disembedded? |
03:38.57 | starlon | nope |
03:39.03 | Torhal | That's your problem. |
03:39.08 | Primer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJKUD8-pVTA I think I finally got the perfect ffmpeg settings for quality and file size |
03:39.17 | Primer | view original. It simply looks amazing |
03:39.37 | Torhal | Shared libraries means whichever AddOn loaded the library last will get the blame for all of the CPU the library uses. |
03:39.38 | starlon | It's likely another addon's copy of Ace3 then? |
03:39.41 | Yssaril | starlon: you never have reliable cpu/mem usage info for individual addons unless you run disembeded |
03:39.53 | Kaelten | :) |
03:39.53 | starlon | k |
03:40.06 | starlon | yeah I noticed that with StarLibs |
03:40.06 | Arrowmaster | Primer: what are you encoding to? |
03:40.23 | Primer | x264+mp3 |
03:40.28 | Yssaril | cause if its embeded than whichever version is the one that is loaded will get blamed for all mem/cpu is used regardless which addon initiated the usage |
03:40.46 | starlon | k |
03:40.48 | Arrowmaster | Primer: you mean h264? |
03:41.16 | Primer | yes, the lib is named x264 |
03:41.25 | Primer | but you are correct, the codec is h.264 |
03:41.39 | Arrowmaster | so ffmpeg uses x264? |
03:41.57 | Torhal | starlon: Embedded libraries are esentially injected directly into the execution environment of the AddOn, making them literally a part of the AddOn from the perspective of the Lua interpreter. |
03:42.01 | Arrowmaster | everybody i know encodes directly with x264 |
03:45.26 | Primer | ffmpeg is a front end to libx264 |
03:45.29 | Primer | which == x264 |
03:45.34 | starlon | hehe it jumped to 6.3s when I loaded LCD4WoW. LCD4WoW is no light addon. You'll never hear me making that claim. :) |
03:45.46 | Arrowmaster | Primer: not exactly |
03:46.00 | Primer | yes exactly |
03:46.40 | Arrowmaster | dont make me go ask one of the lead x264 devs directly because i can |
03:47.19 | Primer | dpkg -L x264 |
03:47.21 | SqueeG | not before me! |
03:47.31 | Primer | /usr/local/bin/x264 |
03:47.45 | Primer | /usr/local/lib/libx264.a |
03:48.04 | Primer | I omitted the irrelevant files |
03:48.13 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
03:48.51 | Primer | locally compiled, yes |
03:49.09 | Arrowmaster | but in a package? |
03:49.12 | Primer | yes |
03:49.22 | Arrowmaster | then you dont need to put it in /usr/local |
03:49.39 | Primer | meh, locally compiled crap _should_ go in /usr/local |
03:49.58 | Arrowmaster | there is a difference between locally compiled and managed by your package manager |
03:49.59 | Primer | git clone, ./configure, make, checkinstall... |
03:50.06 | Primer | Is there? |
03:50.07 | Primer | that's news to me |
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03:50.53 | Primer | hits Arrowmaster with a 50 lb. Linux LSB manual |
03:51.07 | starlon | They're really 50lb too. |
03:51.09 | Primer | I guess the Linux part was redundant |
03:51.18 | Arrowmaster | hits Primer with the Debian New Maintainers Guide |
03:52.29 | Primer | Anyhow, the literally copied and pasted these instructions from an ubuntu forum post. The person seemed knowledgeable enough... |
03:52.54 | Primer | since this box is on Lenny, which, even with a third party repo, can only get me a 1.5 year old ffmpeg |
03:53.13 | Arrowmaster | im sorry but there is something you need to understand |
03:53.29 | Arrowmaster | NOBODY ON THE UBUNTU FORUMS IS KNOWLEDGEABLE! |
03:54.01 | Primer | agreed |
03:54.08 | Yssaril | ubuntu forms == wow forums? |
03:54.17 | Arrowmaster | its 100% misinformation, mostly of the 'i have no fucking clue why this works but hey it does so im going to tell all of you' |
03:54.38 | Primer | I'm not really a fan of Debian and its derivatives |
03:54.59 | Primer | the fact is, this box is my home development box, which I've perverted into a NAT/file server/and now encoder box |
03:55.23 | Primer | Some day I plan to move all the Debian crap into a chroot and install Fedora |
03:55.35 | Primer | just haven't had time |
03:56.31 | Primer | It now even runs X with a monitor attached to it, so I can have a usable box in the garage |
03:56.38 | Primer | speakers too! |
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03:57.17 | Arrowmaster | ill admit ive never touched Fedora but i prefer Debian myself but i loath ubuntu and its derivatives, if i had to use something other than Debian it would probably be Fedora though |
03:57.21 | Primer | OMG WE SAW YOUR REAL IP!! |
03:57.40 | Primer | Arrowmaster: I had a bad experience with Debian 3 |
03:57.52 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: we use ubuntu on most of the linux servers |
03:57.55 | Primer | while installing it it asked me "which kernel modules I wanted to load" |
03:57.59 | Kaelten | although as of last week we now have one rhel server |
03:58.05 | Primer | at that point I killed the installation and never looked back |
03:58.09 | Kaelten | going to convert two more of the ubuntu to rhel soon |
03:58.25 | Primer | Kaelten: why not Centos? |
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03:58.37 | Primer | or are you getting RHEL for free? |
03:58.48 | Axodious | did someone say centos? |
03:58.48 | Primer | or do you actually need the support? |
03:58.52 | Arrowmaster | are you getting support or something on the RHEL? |
03:58.53 | Kaelten | Primer: CentOS is a version behind, and having a support contract is a good thing sometimes |
03:59.06 | Primer | Kaelten: yes, it definitely can |
03:59.10 | Mikk | CAN THE USA PESO PLEASE FIX IS EXCHANGE RATE KKTHX |
03:59.30 | Primer | although I must say, I can't think of any occasion where I've ever needed one |
03:59.41 | Primer | even at my old work where we ran oracle under linux |
04:00.12 | Primer | Mikk: Tienes cambio? |
04:00.12 | Mikk | Can depend on it being 9+:1 when I want to go to the US, and fricking 6.something:1 when I actually have US money that I want to exchange |
04:00.25 | Mikk | curses sod's law |
04:00.39 | Primer | I really miss not having my accented shortcuts in windows... |
04:01.11 | Mikk | Btw, I'm at 127.0.0.1. Come get me. |
04:01.27 | Primer | ping floods that ip address! |
04:01.28 | SqueeG | slackware! |
04:01.43 | starlon | unembedding Ace3 dropped StarTip's initial memory usage to 1.8mb from 3mb. I'm going to rename it AStarTip lol |
04:01.44 | Primer | started with Slackware 3.0 |
04:01.49 | Primer | kernel 1.2.13, baby! |
04:03.17 | SqueeG | Mikk is in mexico? O_o |
04:03.38 | SqueeG | you should just disembed everythign starlon |
04:04.08 | starlon | nods. |
04:04.15 | starlon | but users don't always disembed |
04:04.32 | Xinhuan | do you know Omen only uses 220k fully disembedded? :P |
04:04.34 | Primer | So Arrowmaster, do you Fraps much? I'm finding that I'm running into a performance bottleneck since getting this 1920x1200 monitor and playing at that resolution. I'm wondering where the bottleneck actually is though. I suspect it's the CPU, since WoW is CPU bound (I have a ton of addons) |
04:04.40 | Mikk | starlon nothing to be done about that |
04:04.40 | starlon | nice |
04:04.44 | Mikk | hopefully the same users dont care either |
04:04.51 | starlon | yeah |
04:04.55 | Mikk | and yeah really wtf @1.8 megs :P |
04:04.59 | Primer | Arrowmaster: thoughts? |
04:05.11 | Xinhuan | GatherMate doesn't even use 1.2 mb |
04:05.13 | Arrowmaster | Primer: 1. I dont play WoW 2. I dont run Windows |
04:05.23 | Xinhuan | so why does startip use 1.8? |
04:05.28 | Mikk | SqueeG: no, i could have said US LIRA too |
04:05.31 | starlon | Well that's with StarLibs embedded |
04:05.34 | Primer | So you Fraps other games on a Mac? |
04:05.35 | starlon | sec |
04:05.38 | SqueeG | =p |
04:05.39 | Xinhuan | ah |
04:05.45 | Primer | Or were you just curious about ffmpeg? |
04:05.47 | SqueeG | I assumed you were just talking conversions |
04:05.56 | Arrowmaster | Primer: i dont use a Mac either |
04:06.05 | Mikk | USD = peso/lira/tp |
04:06.07 | Primer | ahh a Linux purist |
04:06.10 | Mikk | compared to what i want it to be |
04:06.11 | Primer | I used to be one of those |
04:06.18 | Mikk | because SOME COMPANY pays me in $ |
04:06.57 | Primer | Mikk: that used to be A Good Thing |
04:07.02 | Mikk | mmm it isnt now! |
04:07.15 | Primer | hence the term "used to be" |
04:07.26 | SqueeG | xD |
04:07.48 | SqueeG | bring my strong dollar back! T_T |
04:08.02 | Primer | I'm actually still a Linux purist |
04:08.06 | Mikk | i guess i should be glad i can at least keep it lying around as USD on my paypal acc |
04:08.08 | Primer | but I also like playing video games |
04:08.13 | Mikk | and wait for better times |
04:08.13 | starlon | StarTip uses 460kb with StarLibs unembedded. StarLibs is kinda big - 1.37mb, with only StarTip using it. |
04:08.24 | Mikk | so um |
04:08.27 | Primer | and unless I can play the games I like in Linux natively, I will gladly boot windows |
04:08.29 | Axodious | they could start paying you in NAU Mikk! |
04:08.42 | Arrowmaster | i like games too but the video game industry has turned the pc into a 2nd class platform |
04:09.08 | Mikk | Axodious: ok spill, wth is NAU :P |
04:09.12 | Primer | I have a PS3. I've yet to find a game that keeps my attention for more than a day |
04:09.17 | starlon | 1.18mb after a GC |
04:09.20 | Axodious | north american union |
04:09.34 | Primer | Is that the new Euro? |
04:09.48 | Axodious | if it ever comes to see the light of day |
04:09.55 | Primer | unlikely |
04:10.02 | Axodious | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union |
04:10.07 | Primer | the rest of NA should just convert to the US dollar |
04:10.14 | Mikk | with half of canada not realizing the civil war ended and still liking their frogs? unlikely |
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04:10.46 | Axodious | hey i livei n that half of canada! |
04:10.50 | Axodious | and i eat good poutine |
04:11.59 | Xinhuan | so starlibs needs optimization |
04:12.14 | Xinhuan | that or they contain functions that shuldn't be in a lib |
04:12.15 | Mikk | though the other half might also like the fact that they don't treat sick & unemployed like landfill |
04:12.19 | Mikk | so might also be opposed |
04:13.06 | Axodious | well they added privatization to hospitilization :S |
04:13.13 | Axodious | all the doctors kinda disapeared |
04:13.36 | Axodious | in MTL it takes like 6 hours to see a doctor (unless you leg is missing or something) |
04:13.46 | Primer | wow, it seems my windows 7 has a real IPV6 address... |
04:13.55 | Primer | yet, I never gave it one, nor did my DHCP server |
04:14.02 | Axodious | always does Primer |
04:14.08 | Axodious | it's a 7 thing |
04:14.16 | Mikk | link local ipv6 addresses can be computed from your MAC address |
04:14.17 | Primer | I wonder if this is what's slowing down lookups in firefox |
04:14.18 | Mikk | among other things |
04:14.26 | Primer | no, it's not local link |
04:14.26 | Axodious | probably not |
04:14.40 | starlon | Xinhuan: I think it's due to the many LibStub libraries. There's a bunch. |
04:15.02 | Xinhuan | except after GC, only 1 copy remains in memory |
04:15.33 | Mikk | well if StarLib is a collection of other libs |
04:15.37 | Mikk | then yes i'm not surprised it's big |
04:15.41 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: he is refering to the fact that there are a bunch of sublibs in there |
04:15.44 | Mikk | but i also find it a bit silly :P |
04:16.00 | Primer | Tunnel Adapter Local Area Connection |
04:16.04 | Primer | WTF is this crap |
04:16.14 | Xinhuan | start disembedding starlibs ;p |
04:16.18 | Axodious | yooooou installeds omething |
04:16.21 | Mikk | oho ipv6-over-4 tunnel |
04:16.21 | Axodious | yes you did! |
04:16.34 | Mikk | then yes it could be the reason :P |
04:16.36 | Axodious | i use to do that for fun |
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04:16.46 | Axodious | gogo6 |
04:16.48 | Axodious | ftw |
04:16.54 | starlon | Each plugin (they populate the script environment) is a library itself. There are 21 plugins at the moment. |
04:17.32 | Mikk | well erm the fact that something is a LibStub library only causes a few hundred bytes in and of itself |
04:17.40 | Mikk | so don't go blaming LibStub for that :P |
04:17.58 | Primer | seems this tunnel crap is nothing new...tons of people talking about them on the internets |
04:18.52 | starlon | well when I prevent the plugin libraries (and consequently the libraries that require the plugins) from loading it's 545kb |
04:19.22 | Xinhuan | what do these plugin libs do |
04:19.25 | starlon | That leaves 8 libraries lol |
04:19.39 | starlon | Xinhuan: The plugins populate the script environment. |
04:19.50 | NeoTron | wowace svn currently unavailable? |
04:19.51 | Xinhuan | with what |
04:19.53 | starlon | Some do a little more, such as PluginLuaTexts |
04:20.08 | starlon | Things such as Name(), etc.. |
04:20.30 | Axodious | someone explain to me why esata never actually took off... was it pricing? |
04:20.32 | starlon | Some plugins just wrap another library, such as PluginLinq |
04:20.40 | Axodious | to expensive to make the parts? |
04:21.52 | Primer | ok, this tunnel shit is bugging me now |
04:22.30 | starlon | 844kb with the plugins created |
04:23.00 | starlon | 21 plugins |
04:23.21 | Axodious | are you using a cisco router primer? |
04:23.39 | SqueeG | why do you need so many plugins? |
04:23.49 | Primer | Axodious: nope |
04:23.55 | Primer | just a Linux NAT box |
04:24.04 | Primer | which has ipv6 disabled |
04:24.06 | Yssaril | Axodious: expensive due to low marketpenetration due to requireing external power source |
04:24.20 | Axodious | hmm k |
04:24.24 | Primer | This is some sort of ipv6 tunneling "adapter" |
04:24.26 | Axodious | were't there some powered ones? |
04:24.35 | Axodious | that's usually software Primer |
04:24.39 | Primer | of course |
04:24.45 | Primer | hence the quotes |
04:24.49 | Axodious | lol |
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04:25.01 | Primer | thing is, I didn't set this up |
04:25.08 | Axodious | a wild ipv6 tunnel appears |
04:25.14 | Primer | every post I'm reading regarding this is treating it as trivial |
04:25.22 | Primer | apparently this is rampant in the windows world |
04:25.30 | Primer | and yet, no one wonders wtf is going on |
04:25.52 | Primer | I'm about ready to start capturing packets on my NAT box |
04:25.55 | Axodious | i know when using a win server (2008) it handles ipv6 locally |
04:25.58 | SqueeG | disable it? |
04:25.58 | Xinhuan | so why is this a problem |
04:26.22 | Primer | Link local address is fine, I don't give a shit about that |
04:26.32 | Primer | but this "adapter" has a bona-fide IPV6 address |
04:26.41 | Xinhuan | so....? |
04:26.49 | Primer | I DIDN'T FUCKING SET THIS UP! |
04:26.59 | Xinhuan | so....? |
04:27.09 | Kaelten | WOOT |
04:27.15 | Kaelten | svn+ssh is up |
04:27.17 | Primer | So, you would not be worried if you found a tunnel device on your Linux box that you didn't setup? |
04:27.18 | Xinhuan | its not causing issues right? |
04:27.24 | Axodious | did you setup windows "homegroup" crap? |
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04:27.45 | Primer | If I did, it was accidental |
04:27.50 | Xinhuan | no i wouldn't be worried |
04:27.56 | Xinhuan | because like you said, its common? |
04:27.58 | Primer | heck, I've gone out of my way to disable services on this box |
04:28.06 | Kaelten | can someone confirm for me please |
04:28.10 | Axodious | oh |
04:28.12 | Axodious | linux box |
04:28.14 | Kaelten | it worked for me but I'd like to know if it works for someone else too |
04:28.44 | SqueeG | what about git+ssh? :p |
04:28.48 | Primer | Kaelten: connection refused |
04:28.50 | NeoTron | Kaelten: seems to fail |
04:28.55 | Primer | oh, just git? |
04:29.00 | Primer | tried svn |
04:29.07 | NeoTron | maybe I'm using the wrong ip |
04:29.13 | NeoTron | what is the ip it should point to? |
04:29.14 | Kaelten | Primer svn:// or svn+ssh:// |
04:29.20 | Primer | Kaelten: svn:// |
04:29.22 | Kaelten | NeoTron 68.64.47.56 |
04:29.28 | NeoTron | looks correct. |
04:29.28 | Kaelten | Primer: ya that's not up yet |
04:29.32 | Kaelten | only the svn+ssh |
04:29.43 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
04:30.04 | Kaelten | ugh |
04:30.23 | Kaelten | got that key_read error agaon |
04:30.28 | Kaelten | I thought we fixed that |
04:30.31 | Primer | ok...just because I read several posts treating this as trivial doesn't mean it's trivial, IMO. I'm just not too thrilled to find something that has the potential to be malicious running on my machine |
04:30.33 | Torhal | Stab it! |
04:30.48 | SqueeG | LAZY PEONS AREN'T BEING LAZY |
04:30.52 | SqueeG | T___________T |
04:31.04 | Axodious | it's in your compouter stealing your bytes Primer |
04:31.05 | Torhal | Foof? |
04:31.33 | Xinhuan | the fact that it uses ipv4 and you have a firewall |
04:31.42 | Xinhuan | means you already have protection |
04:31.53 | Kaelten | NeoTron: you're dhedbor? |
04:31.55 | NeoTron | yep |
04:31.55 | Xinhuan | i don't see a problem |
04:32.06 | Primer | not if the machine behind the firewall is the one initiating the connection |
04:32.10 | Kaelten | try now? |
04:32.16 | Torhal | Kaelten: He's one of the naming casualties in the Great Merger of 2008 |
04:32.47 | Kaelten | NeoTron: please try now |
04:32.55 | NeoTron | same |
04:33.20 | SqueeG | doesn't nix set itself up to be allow-only or.... what ever the fancy term is, by default? |
04:33.25 | SqueeG | (brain melting) |
04:33.49 | Xinhuan | Can't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it |
04:33.55 | Primer | Xinhuan: Consider this: A rogue program manages to gain admin access to your windows box, and sets up one of these tunneling adapters, which seems innocuous, because so many people say they are, yet, in fact, said rogue program is using it to communicate with its master |
04:34.28 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt happen |
04:34.30 | NeoTron | can't you just remove it? |
04:34.32 | Xinhuan | ok primer, the problem then is the rogue program, not the tunnel |
04:34.33 | NeoTron | deworm! |
04:34.51 | Axodious | http://tunnelbroker.net/status.php <- according to that ticker we have 240 days of ipv4 left? |
04:35.05 | Primer | Axodious: unlikely |
04:35.49 | Axodious | ot |
04:35.49 | Primer | Xinhuan: correct...it's just that I saw this as a symptom of something that could be potentially larger, and became concerned. Is that so far fetched? |
04:35.51 | Axodious | it's going to be interesting when they make that switch |
04:36.03 | Axodious | very difficult for IT >_> |
04:36.33 | Xinhuan | if it has already become a problem, don't you think it would have been far well known or patched by now? |
04:36.46 | SqueeG | lol |
04:36.55 | Axodious | o |
04:36.58 | SqueeG | xinhuan : both sides are legitimate arguements :P |
04:37.04 | SqueeG | It's good that he's wary |
04:37.07 | Arrowmaster | everybody already knows its a well known problem |
04:37.18 | Primer | haha 3227 v6 glue records |
04:37.21 | Arrowmaster | they fucking sold off previously reserved domain blocks |
04:37.24 | Primer | I set one of those up :) |
04:37.31 | Axodious | i'm pretty sure it's going ot be ignored until the ipv4 is full |
04:37.33 | Arrowmaster | they sold off 1.x.x.x to china! |
04:37.45 | Arrowmaster | damn right everybody is ignoring it |
04:37.59 | starlon | Should I rename StarLibs-1.0 as LibStarLibs-1.0? Seems redundant, but isn't there some convention I should be following? |
04:38.12 | SqueeG | oh! |
04:38.17 | Axodious | then people will get shoved off into broken pipes of the internet |
04:38.23 | Primer | starlon: I suggest LibLib |
04:38.23 | Shefki | Yes you should be following Arrowmaster's convention or he'll eat you. |
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04:38.29 | starlon | o.O |
04:38.36 | starlon | What do you mean? |
04:38.39 | SqueeG | set it so that it displays it's name in the in game menu as Lib: StarLibs-1.0 |
04:38.40 | Arrowmaster | im waiting for when they run out of ipv4 blocks to sell off and then they decide to start selling class E blocks |
04:38.41 | Shefki | LibStarLibOfStars |
04:38.41 | starlon | Oh |
04:38.48 | starlon | I thought you said LibStub :) |
04:38.49 | SqueeG | so it lists itself with most other libs |
04:38.50 | Kaelten | NeoTron: try now? |
04:38.57 | SqueeG | i hate having rogue libraries floating around |
04:38.59 | starlon | lol Shefki |
04:39.27 | Xinhuan | sounds like a lib that makes or uses stars |
04:39.32 | Arrowmaster | SqueeG: do you remember my 'unique snowflake' commit to the old svn? |
04:39.51 | Xinhuan | a lib's name should be descriptive of what it does |
04:40.10 | NeoTron | same |
04:40.28 | starlon | hmm |
04:40.29 | Xinhuan | i.e no more libs like LibGratuity or LibCrayon! |
04:40.29 | starlon | true |
04:40.36 | starlon | heh |
04:40.57 | starlon | I'm not calling it LibLCD ;) |
04:42.06 | Torhal | Xinhuan: So what about LibQTip? :D |
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04:42.21 | Xinhuan | hits Torhal over the head with DK's Big hammer 12 ====[] 4 Bang!!! 12 ====[] |
04:42.26 | Torhal | BWAH! |
04:42.37 | NeoTron | out of curiosity, is there a menu library yet? |
04:42.50 | Torhal | NeoTron: UIDropDownMenu |
04:42.54 | Torhal | Hehe |
04:43.06 | Iblise | hey - is there someone I can direct my issues with threat plates: tidy plates too? that frequents mirc? |
04:43.09 | NeoTron | was hoping for something more advanced :P |
04:43.16 | Shefki | NeoTron: It's built into the game it's called EasyMenu |
04:43.17 | Xinhuan | if there's a menu library, its really just going to be a UIDropDownMenu wrapper similar to EasyMenu |
04:43.35 | Shefki | What Xinhuan said. |
04:43.39 | Xinhuan | and i generally don't like wrapper libs |
04:43.40 | Yssaril | NeoTron: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=295572 |
04:44.00 | starlon | well this isn't really a wrapper lib |
04:44.00 | Xinhuan | unless the underlying API is too "low level" |
04:44.00 | Kaelten | NeoTron: I'm unable to reproduce :/ |
04:44.24 | starlon | it's a loadstring wrapper if it's considered a wrapper |
04:44.28 | Torhal | starlon: What's wrong with LibLCD? |
04:44.35 | starlon | Hmm |
04:44.48 | Xinhuan | what does your lib do |
04:45.00 | Xinhuan | can you adequately come up with 1 sentence |
04:45.12 | Xinhuan | that describes what it does |
04:45.14 | Torhal | If not, it should be more than one lib |
04:45.37 | Kaelten | NeoTron: watching the auth log if you could try again |
04:45.38 | starlon | I started out with multiple libraries, but that was a nightmare to keep updated. |
04:46.07 | Torhal | The point of a library is to have reusable code that does one thing well. |
04:46.25 | Torhal | When you start mashing a bunch of those together, it's an amalgam and quickly bloats anything trying to use it. |
04:46.30 | Xinhuan | do you have more than 1 addon that is sharing this lib? |
04:46.44 | Xinhuan | or think it would be useful to other authors |
04:46.46 | NeoTron | did it now |
04:47.02 | Kaelten | didn't see any message int he log |
04:47.05 | Xinhuan | that's how we tend to see whether something should be a lib or not |
04:47.16 | starlon | well it does do one thing. It displays information in a fancy way, and provides a way for the user to script the information shown. |
04:47.18 | Kaelten | sure you're hitting the new server? |
04:47.43 | Torhal | Kaelten: I'd hope so since you disabled it on the old one. |
04:47.48 | Xinhuan | so the lib creates a information display? |
04:47.49 | Kaelten | :P |
04:48.10 | Torhal | Just saying...:D |
04:48.18 | Kaelten | oh damnit |
04:48.38 | NeoTron | Name: repos.wowace.com |
04:48.38 | NeoTron | Address: 68.64.47.56 |
04:48.38 | NeoTron | Aliases: svn.wowace.com |
04:48.39 | Arrowmaster | what did you do? is this going to be a good one? |
04:48.42 | pompy | @describe starlibs-1-0 |
04:48.43 | NeoTron | that one |
04:48.43 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/starlibs-1-0/. StarLibs-1.0. StarLibs-1.0 provides various libraries. |
04:48.57 | NeoTron | were you fixing it on the old host? :P |
04:49.04 | Xinhuan | svn.wowace.com is still rejecting connections |
04:49.06 | starlon | Pretty much. It provides a way to show information as text, a progress bar, a histogram, images, animated icons, and provides other scriptable elements like a timer widget, and a key widget for catching key events |
04:49.12 | Arrowmaster | is this going to be a better "oh damnit" than the drop table incident? |
04:49.31 | Xinhuan | so starlon, its somewhat similar to hmmmm libfubarplugin? |
04:49.40 | Torhal | starlon: So an AddOn that wants a histogram also has to load code for progress bars, images, and animated icons? |
04:49.48 | starlon | No |
04:49.56 | starlon | That's why it's individual libraries. |
04:50.08 | starlon | If you load it as an addon, however, you load everything. |
04:50.08 | Torhal | So it's a suite. |
04:50.14 | Torhal | That's bad |
04:50.15 | Xinhuan | so its more like ace3 then? a library of libraries? |
04:50.21 | starlon | Yes |
04:50.28 | Xinhuan | and acegui - which is also a library of widgets |
04:50.35 | Primer | So calling it LibLib isn't that far off! |
04:50.36 | Torhal | "you load everything" - why? |
04:50.42 | Torhal | Bloat. |
04:50.47 | starlon | As an addon |
04:50.53 | Kaelten | NeoTron: I just moved you to the top of the file |
04:50.55 | Kaelten | give it another shot |
04:51.03 | starlon | Ace3 loads everything as well when it's unembedded |
04:51.04 | Xinhuan | sounds fine Torhal - ace3 operates in the same manner |
04:51.09 | Xinhuan | as does AceGUI-3.0 |
04:51.22 | Xinhuan | specific addons should only use parts of it |
04:51.24 | Xinhuan | not all of it |
04:51.26 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Oh, I didn't read the "disembedded" subtext |
04:51.41 | starlon | yeah I should have stated that more clearly :) |
04:52.01 | Xinhuan | but i think you know as well as i do, all addons load the full acegui anyway rather than only the 3 widgets it might use out of 15 |
04:52.29 | Xinhuan | could call that bloat too |
04:52.47 | NeoTron | Kaelten: ran it, same thing again |
04:52.53 | Kaelten | wtf |
04:53.01 | Kaelten | I literally see no record of your attempted login |
04:53.19 | NeoTron | oh lol |
04:53.21 | NeoTron | sec |
04:53.26 | Torhal | Kaelten: svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': Connection refused |
04:53.46 | NeoTron | it's good |
04:53.53 | Kaelten | lol |
04:54.01 | Kaelten | why must you do this to me! |
04:54.03 | NeoTron | ... old entry in .ssh/known_hosts |
04:54.07 | Kaelten | ah |
04:54.08 | NeoTron | it silently failed |
04:54.16 | Xinhuan | Can't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it |
04:54.33 | Xinhuan | i'm not using ssh i think |
04:54.41 | Arrowmaster | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
04:54.41 | Arrowmaster | @ WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED! @ |
04:54.42 | Arrowmaster | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
04:54.42 | Arrowmaster | The RSA host key for curseforge.net has changed, |
04:54.44 | Arrowmaster | and the key for the corresponding IP address 68.64.47.56 |
04:54.46 | Arrowmaster | is unknown. This could either mean that |
04:54.49 | Arrowmaster | DNS SPOOFING is happening or the IP address for the host |
04:54.50 | starlon | LibFancyDisplay-1.0 :) |
04:54.51 | Arrowmaster | and its host key have changed at the same time. |
04:54.54 | Arrowmaster | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
04:54.56 | Arrowmaster | @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ |
04:54.59 | Arrowmaster | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ |
04:54.59 | Repo | Arrowmaster: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. |
04:55.01 | Arrowmaster | OMG! |
04:55.03 | Primer | OMG!! |
04:55.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
04:55.11 | starlon | haha |
04:55.13 | Xinhuan | hahahahahahaha |
04:55.28 | Arrowmaster | @ping |
04:55.36 | Arrowmaster | its ignoring me! |
04:55.36 | Kaelten | lol |
04:55.38 | Parnic | @ping |
04:55.38 | Arrowmaster | make it stop! |
04:55.39 | Repo | pong |
04:55.41 | Kaelten | @ping |
04:55.41 | Repo | pong |
04:55.42 | Parnic | still likes me |
04:55.47 | Torhal | starlon: LibDisplayWidgets |
04:55.49 | Kaelten | sidenote guys |
04:55.49 | Xinhuan | awesome |
04:55.52 | starlon | Hmm |
04:55.55 | Kaelten | that Repo is running int he old DC |
04:55.57 | Xinhuan | that's the first time i've seen repo do tat |
04:56.35 | starlon | LibWidgetDisplay? |
04:56.54 | starlon | Maybe LibLCD after all :) |
04:57.08 | Xinhuan | it creates displays right? |
04:57.16 | Xinhuan | LibLCDDisplay maybe |
04:57.18 | starlon | Cause it is designed in the spirit of LCD4Linux |
04:57.23 | starlon | That's redundant |
04:57.27 | Parnic | LiquidCrystalDisplayDisplay? :P |
04:57.28 | starlon | liquid crystal display |
04:57.32 | starlon | haha |
04:57.36 | Xinhuan | right |
04:57.55 | Arrowmaster | now how the hell do i get ssh to work again now that the host key has changed |
04:58.16 | starlon | reinstall OS |
04:58.23 | starlon | is tech support. |
04:58.23 | Kaelten | NeoTron, can you try to make a test commit, I'm betting it'll fail |
04:58.53 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: i just removed the wowace reference from my known hosts file |
04:59.08 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: i cant do that, mine arent in plaintext |
04:59.22 | Yssaril | nuke the whole file then ? |
04:59.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
04:59.28 | Xinhuan | make a new entry? |
04:59.29 | Arrowmaster | its a big file |
04:59.34 | Axodious | liblcdisplay |
05:00.53 | starlon | http://i.imgur.com/F4G98.jpg |
05:00.54 | Stanzilla | I just had a dream about me climbing up a big tower (looked like eifel tower) on the mission to create the world's "highest" toast. yes i was climbing with a toast in my hand |
05:01.03 | starlon | LibLinq is the bulk of it |
05:01.12 | Primer | Did you wake up with "solution in hand"? |
05:01.17 | Stanzilla | no :( |
05:01.31 | Axodious | bread in your hand not toasted? |
05:02.12 | Stanzilla | in the dream yes |
05:02.20 | Xinhuan | well eifel tower isn't the tallest tower :P |
05:02.36 | Stanzilla | yeah but I guess it looked like that because I watched rush hour the other day |
05:02.44 | Stanzilla | and part 3 is in paris |
05:03.04 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Clearly the french should dig a trench around it and declare it the tallest. |
05:03.15 | starlon | actually LibLinq shrinks to 250kb after a GC |
05:03.25 | NeoTron | Kaelten: in a sec.. |
05:03.55 | NeoTron | svn: Can't create directory '/media/repositories/svn/wow/magicrunes/mainline/db/transactions/67-1.txn': Permission denied |
05:03.59 | Kaelten | ya |
05:04.02 | Kaelten | figured |
05:04.10 | Kaelten | I'll ahve that worked out and svnserve working in a few mins |
05:04.10 | Shefki | goes back at thinking his guild is a bunch of idiots for trying to force a Paladin healing parse by letting him solo heal valithria. |
05:04.22 | Kaelten | I just need to go through and replace a shit ton of symlinks with the proper symlinks |
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05:07.17 | starlon | How do you force a load-on-demand addon to load? |
05:07.26 | starlon | it's a library |
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05:08.01 | Xinhuan | have something that isn't LoD OptDep it |
05:08.10 | starlon | is guessing there's an LoadAddon heh |
05:08.22 | starlon | k |
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05:10.19 | starlon | I had typo'd its name. |
05:10.42 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: whats the ssh fingerprint of the old box so i can figure out which of these to remove? |
05:11.09 | Kaelten | eh...... |
05:11.10 | Kaelten | sec |
05:11.34 | Kaelten | AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEA3dP7tn2ik2TuyiU39+XMW9Mi+399lyqKWM2cTNr0Rv2IOYYju5RRYRptJzgHsXYks49QkeL3jmuEw6MVdEy4BJGoRrza5xLjlklcVEW1mCCoAKwnH/62h/NvAhvgRrJBmdGulZ5wxIHcEThNzf87DHFBHQqOQY7cXX274qVZxsczWN/IgxRtTZQ/Q3cyXWdR2xj3GHOcyl8fwgmFvlub7lFXkWTaDLl/KTbCuXwFrmsOm97oJcfQ8B84uAbALjsCpJBCAcgmU6pdBcOjqNUQXcldmolWZzOW/tIxmfMpNmT5+HOzAdRYO6XVs945AVBkG19BfTgPBBt24oebhwel/Q== |
05:12.00 | Kaelten | so how do I go through several thousand directories blow away existing symlinks and replace them with good ones.... |
05:12.02 | Kaelten | :/ |
05:12.13 | Kaelten | every idea i get I'm not liking the idea oto much |
05:12.21 | Kaelten | I suppose a bash script may be in order though |
05:12.31 | Axodious | ^ |
05:12.32 | Axodious | this |
05:12.34 | Shefki | Kaelten: find . -lname |
05:12.49 | Kaelten | is there an if statement for finding symlinks? |
05:12.53 | Kaelten | in bash |
05:12.59 | Shefki | -H I think. |
05:13.26 | NeoTron | -h |
05:13.27 | Arrowmaster | why are they symlinks wrong? |
05:13.34 | NeoTron | or -L |
05:14.24 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: You don't have ssh-keyscan? |
05:14.54 | Arrowmaster | i do |
05:14.57 | Arrowmaster | whats it do? |
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05:17.25 | Arrowmaster | @ping |
05:17.25 | Repo | pong |
05:17.31 | Arrowmaster | it stopped ignoring me |
05:17.37 | starlon | :) |
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05:21.23 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I ran it a few minutes before you asked Kaelten what the server fingerprint was and got the same result. |
05:22.08 | Arrowmaster | i wanted the old one though |
05:22.31 | Torhal | Ah |
05:23.01 | Arrowmaster | because i didnt see an option for ssh to make it overwrite the ~/.ssh/known_hosts with the new one |
05:29.10 | Kemayo | Looks like I picked the wrong night to quit not commiting. |
05:30.30 | Xinhuan | that's why git is awesome, local commits! |
05:32.03 | Kemayo | A bunch of my older addons are still on SVN, alas. |
05:34.41 | Mikk | keep them there! |
05:34.44 | Mikk | git hates me |
05:35.22 | Torhal | Mikk: You're just a traditionalist curmudgeon |
05:35.24 | Torhal | :D |
05:35.30 | Yssaril | hmm so blizzard added map ids for BC instances but no maps yet /cry |
05:35.40 | Mikk | git has curmudgeon detection? damn, that explains a thing or two |
05:35.46 | Torhal | Hah |
05:36.12 | Mikk | well, i should say that it's git+ssh+curse that hates me |
05:36.16 | Mikk | git locally works fine |
05:36.32 | Mikk | it just feels a tad pointless |
05:36.41 | Torhal | I'm thinking Curse hates you. I mean, you are DPSGnome now. |
05:37.02 | Mikk | heh, when you mention that, .. i wouldn't be surprised if that's what causes the fuckup |
05:37.22 | Torhal | I'd tell you to ask Kaelten to fix it, but at the moment I'd think he'd be more likely to breathe fire at you. |
05:37.45 | Mikk | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1492-mikks-account-keeps-being-broken/ <- 9 june 2009 |
05:38.27 | Torhal | Well, he's in the process of migrating data to the new servers so he's elbow-deep in bullshit. |
05:38.39 | Torhal | He may just uncover the issue |
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05:40.14 | Mikk | pft |
05:40.16 | Kaelten | ok svn should be up and writable |
05:40.23 | Kaelten | although I'm still working ont he hooks |
05:40.34 | Yssaril | fix git then :) |
05:40.36 | Mikk | last i heard the auth db was still a horrible hellhole of spaghetti relationships :P |
05:40.36 | Kaelten | so they may block for a bit longer |
05:42.01 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: should 'ssh svn.wowace.com' give me something other than Permission denied (publickey). |
05:43.13 | Yssaril | Kaelten: did you guys combine the mmo-champs auth with curse yet? |
05:44.05 | Xinhuan | doubt it |
05:44.10 | Xinhuan | if it has there would be announcements |
05:44.15 | Xinhuan | and mmo champ would have announced downtime, etc |
05:51.26 | Torhal | Yssaril: Nah, I went there and it didn't say "Hello Torhal" either before or after I clicked Login. |
05:51.37 | Torhal | All the other sites do that |
05:53.35 | quiescens | moo |
05:54.29 | Torhal | STEAK! |
05:55.05 | Kaelten | anyone able to help me confirm that svn committing works? |
05:56.44 | Primer | svn ci ass -m "test commit" |
05:56.44 | Primer | svn: Commit failed (details follow): |
05:56.44 | Primer | svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file. |
05:57.01 | Primer | host key? |
05:57.35 | quiescens | mebeh |
05:57.57 | Kaelten | Primer: possible |
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05:58.19 | Primer | Why didn't you save the previous host keys? |
05:59.50 | Primer | ok, nuked the key, now I'm getting a post commit |
05:59.51 | Primer | sec |
06:00.57 | Primer | yeah, something's broken |
06:01.00 | Primer | sec, pastebining |
06:01.27 | Primer | http://pastebin.com/FRDwRc9X |
06:01.38 | Kaelten | cute |
06:02.03 | Primer | might want to echo out a more generic error |
06:02.10 | Yssaril | Kaelten: http://paste.wowace.com/2518/ svn without ssl |
06:02.18 | Yssaril | s/ssl/ssh/ |
06:02.25 | Primer | one that doesn't expose your paths |
06:02.33 | Primer | but hey, I guess I'm too paranoid |
06:03.31 | Fisker | robert knepper Kaelten |
06:03.31 | Yssaril | Primer: if someone can get at those files unauthorized then you have bigger problems imo |
06:05.15 | Primer | can never be too careful |
06:05.34 | Kaelten | ok guys I think I have all the bugs fixed |
06:05.35 | Kaelten | try now |
06:06.00 | Primer | svn commit DirectionArrowZoneSizes.lua -m "test commit" |
06:06.00 | Primer | Sending DirectionArrowZoneSizes.lua |
06:06.00 | Primer | Transmitting file data . |
06:06.00 | Primer | Committed revision 30. |
06:06.03 | Torhal | Kaelten: Successful svn update |
06:06.07 | Kaelten | woot |
06:06.11 | Kaelten | (repo won't announce yet) |
06:06.50 | Yssaril | Kaelten: /media/repositories/svn/wow/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/mainline/hooks/post-commit.d/documenterlog.sh: line 3: /home/curseforge/logs/documenter-commits.log: Permission denied |
06:07.20 | Yssaril | i dont even use the documenter |
06:08.37 | Kaelten | Yssaril, should be fixed now |
06:09.43 | Torhal | Kaelten: Speaking of the documenter...it may be borked. |
06:09.53 | Kaelten | well if by borked you mean not running |
06:09.54 | Kaelten | then yes |
06:09.59 | Kaelten | (same goes for the packager too) |
06:10.03 | Torhal | Xinhuan: What was the discussion about the documenter last night (or the night before)? |
06:10.16 | Torhal | Kaelten: Pre-datacenter migration |
06:10.21 | Kaelten | oh |
06:10.23 | Kaelten | not tonight |
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06:10.30 | Kaelten | I'm running on fumes as it is |
06:10.41 | Kaelten | and I've got a few hours left probably |
06:10.49 | Yssaril | Kaelten: packager isnt running :P |
06:10.51 | Kaelten | git only had via ssh didn't it? |
06:10.58 | Yssaril | Kaelten: yea |
06:11.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont think you guys added smart http support for git yet |
06:11.45 | Xinhuan | yeah |
06:12.19 | Arrowmaster | but then you would have to use a recent version of git to even do that |
06:12.29 | Arrowmaster | and your running ubuntu so thats not going to happen |
06:12.44 | Yssaril | auth seams to work for git but returns this: bash: ./serve: No such file or directory |
06:13.08 | Kaelten | erm wtf, were we using gitosis... or something else |
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06:13.29 | Arrowmaster | gitorious? |
06:13.38 | Kaelten | or soemthing |
06:13.40 | Arrowmaster | gitosis is dead |
06:13.58 | Kaelten | it looks like we tried half a dozen methods |
06:14.11 | Arrowmaster | gitolite has replaced gitosis |
06:14.46 | Kaelten | I think we just ended up using git-daemon |
06:14.53 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
06:15.03 | Arrowmaster | git-daemon doesnt do ssh |
06:15.05 | Primer | Anyone know the command to reset the combat log? |
06:15.39 | Yssaril | Primer: you have to delete it |
06:15.51 | Primer | no |
06:15.53 | Primer | there's a command |
06:15.55 | Primer | I've used it |
06:17.10 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: try to pull ? |
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06:18.13 | Arrowmaster | ImportError: No module named sqlalchemy.engine |
06:18.47 | Kaelten | ugh |
06:19.08 | doom0r | CombatLogClearEntries() |
06:19.29 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: try now |
06:19.39 | doom0r | Primer: ^ |
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06:19.58 | Arrowmaster | well it worked but |
06:20.13 | Arrowmaster | /home/curseforge/env/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy/ext/declarative.py:554: SADeprecationWarning: Session.mapper is deprecated. Please see http://www.sqlalchemy.org/trac/wiki/UsageRecipes/SessionAwareMapper for information on how to replicate its behavior. |
06:20.18 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
06:20.22 | Kaelten | lol |
06:20.23 | Kaelten | cute |
06:20.42 | Primer | doom0r: thanks |
06:21.27 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster try now |
06:21.34 | Arrowmaster | so you just installing python locally in the home dir instead of system wide? |
06:21.54 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster, ya isolating the python env is a nice thing |
06:22.17 | Arrowmaster | ok no warning |
06:22.23 | evl | Grrraooaoao |
06:22.39 | evl | Everytime I try to use Auctioneer for my Gem Empire it just makes my game total shit |
06:22.46 | evl | Reminds me of running Adobe software |
06:22.47 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: be sure to keep up on the security updates though when you have it isolated |
06:24.13 | Kaelten | it uses venv |
06:24.23 | Kaelten | so its just an isolated version of the systems python |
06:24.48 | Kaelten | ugh I need git-daemon too |
06:24.56 | Kaelten | but it's not part of git-core anymore it looks like |
06:25.24 | Arrowmaster | check for a git-daemon or git-daemon-run package |
06:25.36 | Kaelten | there is git-daemon-run |
06:25.43 | Kaelten | but that wants to install runit |
06:25.45 | Arrowmaster | and git-core got renamed to git (at least in debian) |
06:25.47 | Kaelten | which is superfloris |
06:25.51 | Kaelten | but meh |
06:26.00 | Arrowmaster | git-daemon was never in git-core |
06:26.01 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
06:26.06 | Kaelten | hrm |
06:26.07 | Kaelten | maybe so |
06:26.18 | Arrowmaster | what is runit? |
06:26.26 | Kaelten | runit is similar to supervisor |
06:26.32 | Yssaril | Kaelten: gettin closer http://paste.wowace.com/2519/ |
06:26.33 | Kaelten | which I already use |
06:26.55 | Arrowmaster | when the hell did git-daemon-run start requiring it |
06:26.58 | Kaelten | ya haven't tried writes yet |
06:27.00 | Kaelten | dunno |
06:28.03 | Kaelten | but where is it hiding the config files |
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06:32.29 | Arrowmaster | ok well this guinea pig is going to bed |
06:32.47 | starlon | bed bugs LOVE guinea pigs |
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06:43.21 | Kaelten | looks like I've got git-daemon running now |
06:43.27 | Kaelten | now just to get git repos writable |
06:43.31 | Kaelten | anyone available to help test? |
06:48.25 | Torhal | Kaelten: Aye. |
06:48.31 | Kaelten | cool |
06:51.53 | Elkano | hardly used git so far so I wouldn't be of much help :( |
06:55.41 | Yssaril | Kaelten: current git write error: http://paste.wowace.com/2520/ |
06:56.04 | Torhal | Yssaril: Yah, that was pretty much what I got - he's on it |
06:59.06 | Kaelten | Yssaril: try again if youw ant |
06:59.56 | Yssaril | Kaelten: new error http://paste.wowace.com/2521/ |
07:00.51 | Kaelten | try again |
07:01.26 | Yssaril | Kaelten: woot |
07:02.05 | Kaelten | woot |
07:02.18 | Kaelten | well for the moment I'm going to label git done then |
07:02.22 | Kaelten | so close to sleep |
07:02.26 | Yssaril | good luck with hg |
07:02.29 | Kaelten | voluntarily or not |
07:02.46 | NeoTron | Kaelten: so I try to post comments on curse.com but it doesn't seem like it sticks. known issue? |
07:03.08 | Torhal | NeoTron: It's an itermittant thing. |
07:03.14 | Kaelten | could be an issue with the migration due to cache invalidation |
07:03.17 | Torhal | Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't |
07:03.27 | Torhal | Kaelten: You migrated Curse proper as well? |
07:03.31 | Kaelten | yes |
07:03.33 | Torhal | Ah |
07:03.35 | Kaelten | _everything_ |
07:03.37 | Kaelten | all of our sites |
07:03.42 | Kaelten | have moved in the last few days |
07:03.44 | Kaelten | all the services |
07:03.45 | Kaelten | everything |
07:03.48 | Kaelten | it's been hell |
07:03.49 | Torhal | Well, I've had the comment issue on and off for a long time on Curse |
07:04.00 | Torhal | I chalked it up to Curse's infrastructure sucking eggs. |
07:04.03 | Kaelten | heh |
07:04.41 | mitch0 | torhal: :) |
07:05.34 | Torhal | Also, mitch0, WTF? You're losing market share because ChocolateBar has a menu like FuBar when you click the bar! |
07:05.37 | Torhal | cackles. |
07:06.04 | Torhal | Just thought I'd throw that out there - there was a forum post where someone said ChocolateBar was the closest to FuBar because of that. |
07:06.45 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Kaelten |
07:07.41 | mitch0 | torhal: I sorta don't care any more :) |
07:07.53 | doom0r | what do you need a menu for the bar for? |
07:07.59 | doom0r | it has it's own feed |
07:09.07 | doom0r | "Set a fixed width for any plugin", now that sounds nice |
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07:10.27 | Torhal | mitch0: Oh, I didn't say you did...it was for the humor value. |
07:10.42 | Torhal | doom0r: Read above :) |
07:11.33 | Torhal | Though I do wonder what you mean by "sorta don't care". Quitting WoW? |
07:17.56 | doom0r | it's seems as wotlk wears on, the quality of displays is up and the feeds tend to suck |
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07:20.09 | Torhal | doom0r: The feeds have always sucked. |
07:20.46 | doom0r | at least there were bad ports from fubar |
07:20.56 | doom0r | now there's just bad ones from scratch that are worse |
07:23.02 | doom0r | which reminds me, toggles for the collapsible categories on travel agent would be nice, don't need me at all ;x |
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07:25.54 | Primer | Can anyone recommend a feral druid addon? |
07:26.11 | Primer | I've just started doing feral DPS, but I have no fucking clue |
07:26.33 | Torhal | doom0r: Huh? |
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07:36.29 | mitch0 | torhal: I haven't been playing for a year :) now I restarted a bit with a druid |
07:37.30 | Torhal | Heh |
07:38.00 | mitch0 | torhal: by "sorta don't care" I mean I just gave up on hoarding loads of points. I got 10k collected from the start, now waiting for my $500. |
07:38.17 | Torhal | Ah |
07:40.43 | mitch0 | hohoho, my $500 just arrived :) |
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07:41.24 | mitch0 | fortunately it didn't get lost with the server move :) |
07:42.14 | Torhal | Wee! |
07:42.40 | Kaelten | : |
07:42.42 | Kaelten | :P |
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07:43.02 | mitch0 | kaelten: distribute my thanks to the curse team ;) |
07:44.44 | mitch0 | if only paypal wouldn't suck so much... the site is slow as hell |
07:44.50 | Kaelten | ahah! found it |
07:45.30 | Torhal | Kaelten: Hrm? |
07:45.46 | Kaelten | took me a while to figure out where the hooks for hg get hooked in at |
07:55.15 | mitch0 | just my luck. HUF is strongest against USD since the last 6 months :( |
07:55.33 | doom0r | Torhal: option to disable recommended crap |
07:56.06 | mitch0 | doom0r: do you also use bazooka? |
07:56.21 | doom0r | absolutely, it's pimp |
07:56.44 | mitch0 | do you use borders? or know of anyone who sets up borders for it? |
07:56.59 | mitch0 | I'm thinking about dropping support for that... |
07:57.23 | doom0r | well, i was going to, because i had my orange border on fubar... but currently the issue is that it's a complete border |
07:57.44 | doom0r | needs to only face the game world if docked |
07:57.48 | mitch0 | "complete border"? |
07:57.55 | mitch0 | ah |
07:58.06 | doom0r | especially if you use two docked up top |
07:58.25 | mitch0 | well, you can cheat a bit by tweeking the top position "out of screen" :) |
07:58.29 | doom0r | but if free float isn't common, i'd say drop it |
07:58.42 | doom0r | you can make a good ui without borders at all |
07:59.36 | mitch0 | torhal: actaully, I might add opening the bar options pane on right click if the bar is not locked. it'd be like 2 lines of code :) |
08:01.48 | mitch0 | doom0r: I might get around implementing the new border stuff (as SetBackdrop is deprecated), but it's a bit of a mess and seems a lot of work... |
08:02.23 | doom0r | put up an open question on comments or something |
08:02.26 | doom0r | see if there's need |
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08:02.32 | mitch0 | nobody answers to those :P |
08:02.34 | mitch0 | I tried |
08:02.53 | doom0r | then drop it, see if anyone complains, if so, implement |
08:03.07 | mitch0 | doom0r: how would your "half border" work? only the bottom corners and the bottom line, or the sides too? |
08:03.15 | doom0r | sec |
08:04.38 | doom0r | http://i53.tinypic.com/2iuff47.jpg |
08:04.51 | doom0r | old ui, 2 on top 1 on bottom |
08:06.12 | mitch0 | eh, you can do that now |
08:06.38 | doom0r | i tried doing a border on the second bar from top, it showed right through the other one, it was a full border |
08:06.44 | mitch0 | if I don't have a minimum bar height set |
08:07.02 | mitch0 | here's what you do: add a third bar on top, set it to 2 px height, set bg color |
08:07.08 | Torhal | doom0r: So instead of having it collapsed, simply not have it there? |
08:07.14 | doom0r | correct |
08:07.28 | doom0r | old fubar location had that option iirc |
08:07.47 | doom0r | people who've played since vanilla usually don't need that crap |
08:08.12 | mitch0 | lemme check if I have some minimum height requirement |
08:08.59 | mitch0 | hrmp, it's set to 10px at the moment, but you can easily change that ;) |
08:09.09 | the-golem | what'd they replace SetBackdrop with? |
08:09.24 | mitch0 | fine control over texture layers |
08:09.48 | Torhal | Oh, jeebus |
08:09.50 | mitch0 | in other words: "do it yourself with SetTexcoord and stuff" |
08:10.02 | Torhal | Is that going live in Cata or is it simply deprecated? |
08:10.10 | mitch0 | just deprecated |
08:10.17 | Torhal | So there's time. |
08:10.23 | the-golem | well, good |
08:10.27 | Torhal | Like, two years worth if previous experience serves. |
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08:10.44 | mitch0 | but I do have issues with SetBackdrop anyway |
08:10.54 | mitch0 | it doesn't let me set a gradient background |
08:10.58 | the-golem | deprecating setbackdrop without providing a nice alternative sounds pita |
08:11.10 | mitch0 | so the proper thing to do would be to implement it the new way |
08:11.13 | the-golem | I have issues with SetTexCoord myself |
08:11.23 | mitch0 | but first I'd write LibBackdrop :) |
08:13.57 | jnwhiteh | its fun fighting with manual spammers |
08:14.44 | mitch0 | is not |
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08:21.22 | quiescens | moo |
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08:28.38 | Torhal | Spare ribs? |
08:34.27 | Yivry | wtb! |
08:36.26 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
08:36.29 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 39 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
08:36.37 | sylvanaar | lol more! |
08:40.41 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
08:40.41 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 40 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
08:43.32 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
08:43.33 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 40 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
08:43.38 | sylvanaar | hrm |
08:43.45 | Yivry | seems steady :P |
08:43.48 | sylvanaar | bot must not update |
08:43.54 | Kaelten | he's not moved over yte |
08:44.20 | doom0r | why you still awake? |
08:44.23 | Kaelten | trying to get the packager up and working |
08:44.29 | sylvanaar | i has 62 tickets now |
08:44.46 | Yivry | move? what did ya move? |
08:44.56 | doom0r | lol, all of curse |
08:44.59 | Kaelten | _everything_ |
08:45.07 | sylvanaar | to ngnix? |
08:45.20 | sylvanaar | or another server |
08:45.27 | Kaelten | check the front page :P |
08:45.33 | sylvanaar | =) |
08:46.03 | sylvanaar | i see |
08:46.49 | Yivry | I did immediately after asking, talk about wrong order lol |
08:47.43 | jnwhiteh | WAH |
08:47.49 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: conjure up my gift certs while you're at it |
08:47.53 | jnwhiteh | I can see you're not busy at all |
08:48.02 | jnwhiteh | so I expect it to be done in the next two hours. |
08:48.03 | jnwhiteh | Thank you! |
08:49.07 | sylvanaar | ... |
08:49.11 | Kaelten | :P |
08:49.33 | jnwhiteh | it wouldn't be bad if it weren't for the fact that the kindle is 2-week backordered in the UK =( |
08:49.51 | Kaelten | :( |
08:50.25 | jnwhiteh | but I'll cope =) |
08:50.32 | sylvanaar | well while you are waiting jnwhiteh you can try out my IDE |
08:50.40 | jnwhiteh | lol |
08:50.47 | jnwhiteh | I don't use IDEs |
08:50.55 | jnwhiteh | so it would be an artificial exercise at best |
08:51.13 | jnwhiteh | I use Vim with syntax coloring and that's about it. |
08:51.25 | sylvanaar | yes i know |
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08:51.46 | sylvanaar | but...maybe some of your readers might benefit from the IDE's features |
08:52.13 | sylvanaar | especially those not fluent in Lua |
08:53.25 | Yivry | what ide did you make, and why would I use it? |
08:54.04 | sylvanaar | /wrists |
08:54.42 | Yivry | aaww was just trying to fake some interest :P |
08:54.51 | sylvanaar | i know |
08:54.52 | Yivry | (and maybe get a replacement for Eclipse) |
08:54.57 | sylvanaar | oh |
08:55.01 | sylvanaar | well i can help you there |
08:55.08 | sylvanaar | its based on IntelliJ |
08:55.20 | Yivry | ah THE counter for eclipse lol |
08:55.48 | sylvanaar | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18501 |
08:56.03 | Kaelten | I'm crashing guys |
08:56.08 | Kaelten | I can't think straight enough to dig into this |
08:56.30 | Kaelten | gnight |
08:56.34 | sylvanaar | nini |
08:56.50 | Kaelten | existing repos are usable just packaging and new repos are going to have issues |
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09:01.02 | Yivry | looks overly complicated tbh, but that might just be intelliJ itself |
09:01.32 | Torhal | doom0r: So what you're saying is that you want yuor tooltip to only have the zone name and coordinates? |
09:01.40 | Torhal | s/yuor/your/ |
09:02.12 | doom0r | well, i was thinking about that, that's all that's really necessary to avoid multiple toggles |
09:02.34 | doom0r | otherwise, recommended vs waht's in the zone, i.e. fishing, dungeons in THAT zone |
09:02.55 | doom0r | either way, don't think it matters, really, just all would do |
09:03.26 | doom0r | after a week of playing again i'll know em all and never use it at all cept for location display, and i'm sure most will do the same |
09:04.06 | Torhal | That's why I made 'em collapsible. |
09:04.09 | Torhal | Heh |
09:04.13 | doom0r | it's just such a huge tooltip since my minimap is under it even collapsed |
09:04.23 | doom0r | covers the whole map, so i have to mouse way away to get it gone |
09:04.58 | Torhal | If all you want to see is the location name and coords, why are you even opening the tooltip? |
09:05.02 | Torhal | :D |
09:06.02 | doom0r | i could just hide it, was just food for thought ;x |
09:06.10 | Torhal | Hehe |
09:06.25 | doom0r | actually with all the dungeons they added, i'll probably keep usign it til i find them |
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10:18.38 | sylvanaar_ipad | I hate that FedEx always skips my apt for the 8am delivs |
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10:19.05 | sylvanaar_ipad | I have to sit outside and wait ... Lame |
10:19.39 | sylvanaar_ipad | 2 fucking hours |
10:26.10 | Torhal | sylvanaar_ipad: You could always ask passerbys to try your IDE... |
10:26.13 | Torhal | ducks. |
10:26.37 | Stanzilla | haha :D |
10:26.44 | sylvanaar_ipad | I give up |
10:27.42 | sylvanaar_ipad | Where is the fucking FedEx guy?? |
10:31.18 | sylvanaar_ipad | That shit better be on the truck |
10:31.26 | Slayman | sylvanaar_ipad: what you waiting for? |
10:31.57 | sylvanaar_ipad | A contract |
10:32.14 | sylvanaar_ipad | With a check |
10:32.32 | Slayman | oh moneyz I can understand your eagerness now |
10:32.50 | Slayman | though mailing of checks is really american |
10:33.10 | sylvanaar_ipad | Hey I asked for a wire |
10:33.26 | Slayman | but they sad ney |
10:33.28 | Slayman | ^^ |
10:33.36 | Slayman | their sadists obviously |
10:33.48 | Slayman | or in cahoots with FedEx |
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10:54.09 | sylvanaar_ipad | Not even on the truck |
10:54.16 | sylvanaar_ipad | Fuckers |
10:59.10 | sylvanaar_ipad | I take that back... |
10:59.58 | Megalon | FUCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS |
11:00.11 | Megalon | was it under the truck? :( |
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11:09.13 | sbu | Megalon: maybe fisker is... |
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11:20.53 | sylvanaar | finally |
11:30.49 | Megalon | COKE AND HOOKER TIME |
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11:32.32 | Stanzilla | wtb |
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11:45.22 | harl | i like how those caribou animals in wow sound like the imp monsters in doom 1/2 |
11:45.34 | harl | always reminds of that |
11:49.47 | phyber | i never noticed, but you are correct. |
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12:40.47 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
12:40.49 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 44 hours ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
12:41.33 | sylvanaar | down to 66 |
12:44.49 | Megalon | makes 151 new tickets on prat |
12:48.36 | starlon | lol |
12:50.12 | sylvanaar | Torhal: can you move to CC http://www.wowace.com/addons/acp/tickets/43-light-headed/ |
12:50.46 | jnwhiteh | I'd respond, but obviously I can't =) |
12:50.50 | jnwhiteh | or maybe I can if I login :P |
12:50.53 | jnwhiteh | damn curse authentication |
12:52.18 | haste | lol |
12:52.21 | sylvanaar | its not even a lightheaded ticket jnwhiteh |
12:52.32 | jnwhiteh | it seems to be.. |
12:52.53 | jnwhiteh | its not a bug, its not a feature request, and I'm the best person to offer the explanation |
12:53.00 | sylvanaar | ah |
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12:53.13 | sylvanaar | they wont follow up probably |
12:55.19 | jnwhiteh | certainly not =) |
12:55.23 | jnwhiteh | but it can be moved to CC and closed =) |
12:55.54 | jnwhiteh | I wonder what the curse detected install-base of LightHeaded is |
12:56.01 | jnwhiteh | how many curse points I'm missing out on =) |
12:57.19 | evl | How does WoW handle symlinks, transparently? |
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12:58.47 | jnwhiteh | not sure, actually |
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13:17.41 | koaschten | hmmm are macro's disabled on beta? |
13:18.04 | koaschten | i just logged on for the first time since last patch and my macros are gone from the action bars and i cant drag them back there. |
13:19.08 | kagaro | use macros in general |
13:19.14 | kagaro | per char macros are borkne |
13:19.17 | koaschten | ... |
13:19.22 | koaschten | yeah just fogured that out |
13:19.44 | Megalon | fiskered |
13:21.29 | starlon | is cygwin the best way to rename a bunch of folders and files under Windows? Or is there something GUI/Windows specific? |
13:22.21 | pompy | starlon: which svn client u using? |
13:22.28 | starlon | tortoise |
13:22.39 | pompy | u right click the folder and theres an svn function to rename |
13:22.40 | pompy | use that |
13:22.50 | starlon | no way to script it? |
13:23.00 | starlon | there's a lot of files and folders |
13:23.20 | Parnic | what are you trying to do? rename them all with a new prefix/suffix or something? |
13:23.35 | starlon | I'm renaming StarLibs as ScriptableDisplay |
13:24.28 | starlon | I guess I should try Google huh? :) |
13:24.38 | Parnic | i don't think there's anything that will easily help with that...i've only been able to find a handful of for-pay tools |
13:24.54 | Parnic | you could whip up a ruby/perl/etc. script if you're proficient there, of course. |
13:25.18 | pompy | starlon: http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/tsvn-automation.html |
13:25.22 | pompy | theres :rename |
13:25.34 | pompy | u could try something like that |
13:25.35 | starlon | ah thanks |
13:29.33 | arkanes | what |
13:29.44 | arkanes | do you need to rename files, or do you need to rename stuff in an svn repo |
13:30.09 | starlon | rename a repo's folders and files. |
13:30.21 | starlon | apparently rename similar files doesn't work on folders |
13:30.25 | arkanes | then just use the svn command line |
13:31.18 | arkanes | what are you renaming exactly? |
13:31.34 | starlon | StarLibs-1.0 |
13:31.39 | arkanes | to? |
13:31.42 | starlon | as ScriptableDisplay-1.0 |
13:31.52 | starlon | LibScriptableDisplay rather |
13:32.22 | arkanes | svn move StarLibs-1.0 LibScriptableDisplay-1.0, then |
13:32.41 | starlon | Hmm |
13:32.52 | starlon | That will rename all the files and folders as well? o.O |
13:33.01 | arkanes | why would you need to rename all the files and folders |
13:33.19 | starlon | cause they're all named StarLib* |
13:33.32 | arkanes | well thats silly |
13:33.39 | starlon | why's that? |
13:33.50 | arkanes | redundant namespacing |
13:33.51 | arkanes | anyway |
13:33.52 | starlon | They're named after the LibStub major version. |
13:34.16 | mitch0 | starlon: for i in StarLib*; do svn mv $i $(echo $i | sed 's/StarLib/ScriptableDisplay/'); done |
13:34.38 | starlon | guess I'm installing cygwin after all :) |
13:34.41 | starlon | thanks |
13:34.53 | SunTsu | starlon: do you have a lua interpreter? |
13:34.56 | mitch0 | parnic: could you reproduce the bazooka nolib issue? |
13:34.59 | starlon | yes |
13:35.26 | SunTsu | starlon: lua should have file operations, too, why don't you just use them? |
13:36.03 | mitch0 | suntsu: it won't beat my one-liner :) |
13:36.04 | arkanes | doing file operations instead of svn operations means that svn won't know about the change |
13:36.05 | starlon | I was hoping there was something svn specific |
13:36.24 | starlon | I'll lose change logs on the files |
13:36.39 | mitch0 | svn mv <- preservses history |
13:36.50 | mitch0 | s/typo// |
13:37.09 | SunTsu | starlon: or use lua to print out the svn commands and put them into a batch file |
13:37.29 | mitch0 | oh the joys of working on a broken desktop OS :) |
13:38.58 | Ackis | @ping |
13:38.58 | Repo | pong |
13:39.22 | SunTsu | mitch0: If I was using Windows I'd have cygwin anyway |
13:39.49 | mitch0 | I did have it till I got fed up enough and just installed fbsd on my work machine ;)_ |
13:40.28 | mitch0 | cygwin is still a pain compared to the real thing though |
13:40.51 | starlon | cygwin is slow |
13:40.57 | SunTsu | I quit using windows somewhen in the 90s, shortly installed it for WoW again but dumped it for wine |
13:41.36 | starlon | I haven't reinstalled Linux since replacing some of my hardware. |
13:41.51 | starlon | But I get a lot of input lag with Wine. |
13:42.02 | starlon | Like wasted gcd's |
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13:58.25 | starlon | Kevin Bacon statue made from bacon. That's a huge waste of bacon. |
13:58.59 | SunTsu | starlon: for me wine worked quite fine |
13:59.18 | starlon | maybe it's Fedora |
13:59.37 | starlon | I know it's not the Linux network layer |
14:00.31 | starlon | I value my GCDs too much though. WoW is the only reason I'm using Windows. |
14:00.33 | SunTsu | starlon: I even use fbsd, which wine is not tested on as much as on linux |
14:01.29 | mitch0 | suntsu: does wow run on fbsd/wine? |
14:01.32 | starlon | It works fine till I get into a tight rotation, then it irritates me with GCD lag. |
14:01.38 | starlon | on Wine yes |
14:01.48 | starlon | Works great in fact, except for my issue |
14:02.02 | SunTsu | mitch0: yeah, using that for some years now |
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14:03.47 | SunTsu | it's quite cpu intensive, though. My old Athlon x2 4200+ was too slow when it came to raids |
14:04.11 | SunTsu | resulted in 3fps or less during fights |
14:04.29 | mitch0 | uh |
14:06.12 | SunTsu | On my quad core Phenom I it barely takes up 10% of the cores, no matter whar |
14:06.14 | SunTsu | what |
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14:07.53 | Kalroth | WoW is limited by software, not hardware |
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14:09.39 | Axodious | WoW is limited* |
14:09.41 | Axodious | fixed |
14:09.50 | SunTsu | Kalroth: both cores were at 100% on my old cpu, and I didn't do anything to the OS |
14:10.43 | Kalroth | well your old cpu is just that; old :) |
14:11.18 | SunTsu | WoW is older ;) |
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14:26.40 | mitch0 | suntsu: does wow use all 4 cores? |
14:27.08 | starlon | only 2 |
14:27.15 | mitch0 | just about to buy a new comp and dunno if I should go with a 2 core or a 4 core phenom |
14:27.32 | SunTsu | mitch0: at least it looks like it |
14:27.46 | starlon | Wine may use all 4 :) |
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14:30.16 | steev | wow will use all 4 if you tell iit to |
14:30.19 | SunTsu | mitch0: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773499400&sid=1 |
14:30.40 | SunTsu | Money quote: "The game can use more than 2 cores but the other threads do not do anything intensive. You won't notice performance jumps going from dual to quad." |
14:32.12 | mitch0 | uhhum |
14:32.13 | mitch0 | thanks |
14:32.54 | Parnic|Work | but of course if you use your computer to do anything other than wow, more cores is usually better ;) |
14:33.55 | mitch0 | parnic: don't hide from me! :) |
14:34.02 | Parnic|Work | i'm hiding? |
14:34.06 | mitch0 | could you reproduce the bazooka issue? |
14:34.23 | Parnic|Work | what, you don't pay attention to your tickets? ;) |
14:34.36 | mitch0 | I checked this morning :) |
14:34.38 | Parnic|Work | i did exactly what you requested the day you requested it |
14:34.47 | mitch0 | erm |
14:34.52 | Parnic|Work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka/tickets/16-error-on-login-when-running-disembedded/ |
14:35.01 | Parnic|Work | blame arrowmaster |
14:35.05 | mitch0 | wtf |
14:35.08 | mitch0 | I don't see it |
14:35.17 | Parnic|Work | because your filter is set to 'all open' |
14:35.25 | Parnic|Work | and that ticket is no longer open |
14:35.42 | mitch0 | ah |
14:35.43 | mitch0 | :P |
14:35.49 | mitch0 | I like self closing tickets |
14:37.14 | mitch0 | wtf is the diff between Phenom II and Phenom II X2 ? |
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14:39.56 | Parnic|Work | the better question is why buy an AMD chip when Intel exists? :P |
14:40.47 | mitch0 | I'm and ati/amd fanboi, sorry ;) |
14:41.06 | Parnic|Work | i didn't know that ati fanboys existed. you're the second one i've talked to in as many days, though. |
14:41.31 | ulic | how's their linux support? it used to suck. |
14:41.46 | mitch0 | getting better with the open source driver, but still sucks :) |
14:42.06 | mitch0 | presumably the newer chips work better (as there's no docs for the pre-merger chips) |
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14:42.18 | mitch0 | I'll report back in a week or so ;) |
14:42.39 | mitch0 | or, actually, the video card purchase is postponed... |
14:44.31 | pentium166 | phenom II is the line and phenom II X2 is a processor in that line with two cores? |
14:45.03 | mitch0 | ok, maybe only this site sucks. both are listed as 2 cores... |
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14:45.29 | pentium166 | probably just lazy/bad labeling |
14:45.31 | Parnic|Work | mitch0: i realize you're an amd fanboy, but i'd encourage you to do some casual google searches for comparisons if you're talking about dropping cash for a new pc. all the benchmarks i see show the i7 clearly beating the phenom ii in just about every test |
14:45.55 | mitch0 | parnic: yes, I understand that |
14:45.56 | pentium166 | but then you look at price/performance |
14:46.01 | mitch0 | but I like supporting AMD :) |
14:46.13 | mitch0 | & |
14:46.13 | Parnic|Work | kk. i guess we can't be friends any more, then. (kidding) |
14:48.00 | starlon | lol |
14:48.06 | starlon | hisses. |
14:50.12 | Fisker | Parnic|Work |
14:50.21 | Fisker | you ruined Borderlands :( |
14:50.27 | Parnic|Work | the heck did i do? |
14:50.44 | Parnic|Work | are you talking about the latest dlc or...? |
14:50.45 | SunTsu | pentium166: Yeah, Phenom II is the CPU type, X2 dualcore, X4 quad |
14:50.52 | Megalon | Fisker is has borderline |
14:51.00 | Megalon | and you ruined the world he lives in, the borderlands |
14:51.12 | Parnic|Work | now everything is clear. thanks, megalon |
14:51.30 | Parnic|Work | fisker: i demand that you explain. go. |
14:52.17 | Fisker | You put in some steamworks feature but no steam cloud or matchmaking :( |
14:52.30 | Fisker | If you had put in steam cloud i just might've had my savegame still |
14:52.31 | Fisker | :( |
14:52.32 | pentium166 | I have a phenom II X3 because i didn't feel like spending more at the time :( |
14:52.43 | Parnic|Work | ah, i see. so adding features to a game that weren't there before is how you ruin it. got it. |
14:52.52 | Parnic|Work | you're welcome that we're still supporting the game a year after release, btw. |
14:53.26 | Fisker | yeah Parnic |
14:53.27 | Fisker | :3 |
14:53.40 | SunTsu | My laptop with i7 quadcore is going to replace my phenom II very soon now, which in turn will become an ESXi server |
14:53.49 | Fisker | i just realized i didn't still have my old save from armory of knoxx because i had reinstalled |
14:54.20 | Fisker | also paying 10 (or is it 8?)€ isn't really what i would call support but ok |
14:54.21 | Fisker | :P |
14:54.24 | Parnic|Work | fisker: ah. it's our fault that you didn't keep up with your save files. qq? :P |
14:54.25 | starlon | I'm happy with my q6600 |
14:54.30 | starlon | for now |
14:54.32 | pentium166 | I tried Crawmerax for the first time last night. As soon as I got off the elevator I got punted off the plateau |
14:54.33 | Fisker | obviously Parnic |
14:54.49 | Parnic|Work | fisker: whoa now...steam support came in a *free* patch along with all our bug fixes and balance updates, etc. |
14:55.03 | Parnic|Work | obviously add-on content is going to be paid, but we're not *just* supporting it with for-pay content, you know |
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14:58.30 | Parnic|Work | so did you check out Claptrap's New Robot Revolution? |
15:01.24 | Ackis | I bugged crawermax out for my first kill |
15:02.59 | pentium166 | I'm kind of surprised nothing was done about that geometry hole in the armory |
15:06.22 | pentium166 | I want to get the new DLC but I just bought Civ5 and I've played about 1.2 games so far |
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15:18.42 | Fisker | LOL Megalon |
15:18.46 | Fisker | Tasteless can't computer |
15:19.12 | Axodious | when you're installing java you need to install the 32 bit version if you use a 32 bit browser right? |
15:19.54 | Axodious | nvm found answer |
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15:22.17 | Megalon | Fisker: did you watch? missed it today :< |
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15:22.37 | kagaro | hrmm how does this look for an example Backdrop with gradient? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/WoWScrnShot_093010_112124.jpeg |
15:24.24 | vhaarr | looks like a backdrop with a gradient .. ? |
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15:24.38 | kagaro | correct |
15:24.55 | kagaro | but its independant of the bgFile gradient |
15:25.24 | Funkeh` | did someone fuck wiht the forums |
15:26.06 | Funkeh` | it doesn't seem to be recognizing the wowace cookie and logging in |
15:26.46 | Axodious | zzz deploying adobe reader blows |
15:27.01 | Ackis | Funkeh`: servers were moved yesterday |
15:27.37 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/site-migration/ |
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15:28.30 | Funkeh` | Ackis, I know |
15:28.37 | Funkeh` | But my question still stands |
15:28.55 | Funkeh` | unless the forum hasn't been moved |
15:29.06 | Ackis | it's most likely one of the many things that are still broken, I'll let Kaelten know when he gets in |
15:29.17 | ulic | Funkeh` or vhaarr: Any good suggestions for only having Deadmines or SFK littlewigs modules loading in heroic only? |
15:29.36 | Funkeh` | ulic, it's your addon, yuo decide :) |
15:29.36 | Ackis | because it's fucked for me too it looks like |
15:29.40 | vhaarr | loading as in LoD? no |
15:30.00 | vhaarr | but you can implement :VerifyEnable in each module |
15:30.06 | ulic | obviously something LoD would be best, but I know that is not so likely. |
15:31.05 | vhaarr | function mod:VerifyEnable() if difficulty > X then return true end end |
15:31.12 | vhaarr | or whatever |
15:31.33 | ulic | ok, thanks for that, I'll look into it. |
15:31.48 | vhaarr | self:GetInstanceDifficulty() |
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15:33.43 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/CurseForge/status/25990174323 |
15:34.23 | Megalon | my puppy is gone :-( |
15:34.44 | Ackis | :( |
15:34.50 | Slayman | your Puppy is now diamons |
15:34.50 | Ackis | lost or? |
15:34.58 | Slayman | s/diamons/diamonds/ |
15:35.44 | Megalon | :'( |
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15:37.38 | Ackis | can you go look for it Megalon? |
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16:01.17 | kagaro | hrmm http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/WoWScrnShot_093010_120007.jpeg |
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16:04.46 | arkanes_ | gradients! |
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16:05.20 | kagaro | ya |
16:05.21 | p3lim | there we go :) |
16:05.31 | kagaro | code is simple as well |
16:05.59 | arkanes_ | I have some code somewhere that does them for status bars |
16:06.00 | nevcairiel | is there a wow function for this now, or how did you do that? |
16:06.07 | kagaro | i did it |
16:06.23 | arkanes_ | line by line textures with manual interpolation? |
16:06.29 | kagaro | i made a lib based on lilsparky gnomeworks |
16:06.40 | kagaro | he had figured all the cutout math already |
16:06.45 | nevcairiel | the color gradient code isnt that hard, i had that in HotCandy before |
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16:06.58 | nevcairiel | but it only changed the color of the bar smoothly, but didnt show a gradient on the bar itself |
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16:07.18 | kagaro | sampel code for that screenshot |
16:07.20 | kagaro | local BG = [[Interface\Addons\KgUI\smallframe.tga]] |
16:07.20 | kagaro | local dbLib = LibStub("LibBackdrop-1.0") |
16:07.20 | kagaro | local testFrame = CreateFrame("Frame","kgUITestFrame",UIParent) |
16:07.21 | kagaro | testFrame:SetWidth(300) |
16:07.21 | kagaro | testFrame:SetHeight(150) |
16:07.22 | kagaro | testFrame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",0,0) |
16:07.23 | kagaro | dbLib:Embed(testFrame) |
16:07.24 | kagaro | testFrame:SetBackdrop({bgFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background", |
16:07.24 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
16:07.25 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
16:07.25 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
16:07.26 | kagaro | testFrame:SetBackdropBorderGradient("vertical",1,0,0,0.5,1,0) |
16:07.27 | kagaro | testFrame:SetBackdropGradient("VERTICAL",0,0,1,0,1,0) |
16:07.28 | kagaro | local nFrame = CreateFrame("Frame","Test2",UIParent) |
16:07.28 | kagaro | nFrame:SetWidth(300) |
16:07.29 | kagaro | nFrame:SetHeight(150) |
16:07.29 | kagaro | nFrame:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,"CENTER",-300,-150) |
16:07.30 | kagaro | nFrame:SetBackdrop({bgFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background", |
16:07.30 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
16:07.31 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
16:07.49 | nevcairiel | spam! |
16:08.12 | kagaro | my bad, i had the code instead of the pasty link in the clipboard |
16:08.16 | arkanes_ | "SetBackdropGradient" I suppose is the thing that does the real work |
16:08.42 | kagaro | ya, but i replace the SetBackdrop call as well |
16:09.00 | kagaro | so when it goes away the code still works |
16:09.23 | kagaro | im still waiting on lilsparky to get back to me |
16:09.50 | kagaro | since i used some of his code, waiting on permission form him |
16:10.53 | kagaro | but I had noticed a lot of people wanted todo gradient borders |
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16:12.52 | MindWorX` | Anyone around with some lua experience? |
16:13.00 | Kaelten | g'morning |
16:13.01 | Kaelten | ish |
16:13.15 | MindWorX` | g'evenin |
16:15.12 | MindWorX` | I see addons like Carbonite which shows a players position, and the distance to the player in yards. But the only functions i can find related to position is the map position, which seems to be a scale value on a map texture. |
16:15.28 | MindWorX` | Do i need to translate those scale values to yards manually, or is there some easier way i'm missing? |
16:15.42 | nevcairiel | You indeed need to know how big the current map is |
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16:16.15 | nevcairiel | There are libraries that provide this data, and even functions to calculate distance for you |
16:16.22 | nevcairiel | Astrolabe or LibMapData, for example |
16:16.27 | quiescens | moo |
16:16.40 | MindWorX` | Okay |
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16:16.46 | MindWorX` | I'll take a look at those then |
16:17.08 | MindWorX` | Thanks a bunch :) |
16:17.22 | MindWorX` | Google aint of much help with it comes to wow lua information |
16:17.27 | MindWorX` | when* |
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16:56.18 | Stanzilla | We'd like to make you aware of the new Real ID-related privacy options we've introduced to Battle.net. These options provide Real ID users with additional tools for customizing the service based on their preferences, enabling the ability to opt in or out of the Real ID "Friends of Friends" and "Add Facebook Friends" features or to turn off Real ID altogether. |
16:56.20 | Stanzilla | what what |
16:57.56 | Zyn | wut |
16:58.30 | Stanzilla | https://eu.battle.net/account/management/settings/change-communication.html |
17:01.29 | mitchnull | facebook should DIAF |
17:01.34 | Talryn | <PROTECTED> |
17:02.53 | Talryn | I noticed I still get an error trying to commit. |
17:03.10 | Talryn | I removed the SSH known_hosts entries though and even restarted ssh-agent. |
17:04.18 | Talryn | Nevermind, somehow I didn't delete a line that I thought I deleted. |
17:04.42 | Talryn | Hoping this is the new fingerprint: 96:aa:8b:36:ff:72:38:18:8c:bf:4a:4f:99:be:c3:a8 |
17:04.51 | koaschten_ | Stanzilla already opted out ! |
17:04.57 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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17:05.12 | nebula169 | Talryn: loggin yo keys! |
17:05.40 | Talryn | :-) |
17:05.51 | Talryn | and I wasn't automatically logged into the forums either |
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17:11.49 | Talryn | I had turned parental controls on and I just looked and I was already opted out of the Real ID items above. |
17:12.19 | Axodious | wow adobe... wow |
17:12.40 | Axodious | so redoing my home test active directory testing sbs 08 r2 |
17:12.52 | Axodious | go to deploy msi installers, np |
17:12.55 | Axodious | get to adobe reader.... |
17:13.48 | Axodious | the latest installer for reader is 9.3.4, the installer is 9.3.0 with all of the .msp files in the directory and a line "PATCH=mspfileshere" |
17:14.09 | Axodious | so i go to manually patch the 9.3.0 up to 9.3.4, "i'm sorry dave you can't do that" |
17:14.29 | Axodious | everytime they patch reader it's something new |
17:16.18 | quiescens | i'm sorry dave, i'm afraid i can't let you do that |
17:16.36 | Axodious | why can't they just do it the same way they do flash/shockwave ?! ugh |
17:16.49 | Axodious | "here's the msi installer for you!" |
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17:19.41 | arkanes_ | adobe writes pretty terrible stuff |
17:19.45 | arkanes_ | like most software :( |
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17:20.21 | arkanes_ | I keep reader off my machines, use foxit instead, but corporate IT keeps pushing "updates" to my non-existent reader version and putting it back |
17:20.23 | Axodious | the only reason i use it instead of say foxit is because of the secure document junk which is adobe proprietary |
17:21.02 | Axodious | place i work at has some certificate plugin thing to view some pdfs |
17:21.14 | Axodious | so i get to endure the nightmare that is deploying reader |
17:21.27 | Bruners | i use google docs for pdf's |
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17:36.55 | Stanzilla | Adys: why are the links in the mmoc bluetracker rss feeds broken? :( |
17:37.28 | Adys | *shrugs* |
17:37.33 | Adys | the bluetracker is undergoing a revamp |
17:37.47 | Stanzilla | no quickfix? : |
17:37.49 | Stanzilla | :( |
17:38.24 | Kaelten | we don't have a ruby dev |
17:38.33 | Fisker | whatever do you mean Stanzilla ? |
17:38.35 | Adys | I'm a ruby dev but nobody ever asks me :P |
17:38.41 | Adys | whats your browser Stanzilla ? |
17:38.44 | Kaelten | Adys: feel free to fix it :D |
17:38.54 | Adys | ill see if i can have a look |
17:38.57 | Fisker | i think Stanzilla is still on the old rss feed |
17:38.59 | Stanzilla | Adys: chrome but the rss reader is thunderbird |
17:39.06 | Fisker | atleast links work fine here in google reader |
17:39.12 | Adys | ah ok yeah |
17:39.18 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/sections.rss |
17:39.21 | Adys | can you give me one of the links? |
17:39.48 | Stanzilla | Adys: "5c6f47911c0254111731b9805a97cf461285867481/" |
17:40.13 | Adys | k, ill have a look tonight, think i know whats going on |
17:40.18 | Adys | try checking for an updated feed first |
17:40.25 | Adys | thunderbird is a shitty rss reader |
17:40.29 | Adys | (use google reader srsly) |
17:40.35 | kagaro | arkanes_: ping |
17:40.48 | Stanzilla | Adys: should be the correct feed as it is linked on the page itself |
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17:43.46 | arkanes_ | kagaro: sup |
17:44.11 | Torhal | kagaro: Did you let mitch0 know that he doesn't have to futz with that library since you already did? |
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17:45.28 | kagaro | ya |
17:47.28 | Ackis | Torhal: |
17:47.46 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
17:47.47 | Fisker | fuck you |
17:47.48 | Torhal | Ackis: |
17:47.50 | Fisker | :3 |
17:49.45 | Humbedooh | is that a proposal, Fisker? |
17:49.57 | Fisker | yesh Humbedooh |
17:50.08 | Humbedooh | lucky Ackis then |
17:52.46 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Jealous, much? |
17:53.13 | Humbedooh | at least Ackis can claim he got some tonight |
17:53.51 | Torhal | "Man, I got me some sweet trolling today!" |
17:54.34 | Humbedooh | I made http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/images/17-render-test-tux/ just for you! |
17:56.34 | ckknight | cool, Humbedooh |
17:57.55 | SqueeG | it's a bit off humbedooh ;) |
17:58.10 | Humbedooh | always the optimist, SqueeG ;p |
17:58.13 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Hehe, nice |
17:58.23 | SqueeG | haha xD |
17:58.25 | Torhal | SqueeG: Of course it is - the lib is under development |
17:58.35 | Humbedooh | it's got some issues with opacity ye - somehow WoW interprets the values differently |
17:58.36 | Kaelten | Humbedooh: wow, pretty cool |
17:59.15 | Humbedooh | and I still gotta rework the gradient stuff so it'll work on rotated gradients too |
17:59.42 | SqueeG | Holy crap, amigo xD |
17:59.53 | Torhal | Humbedooh: I'd say to use your findings to update stuff on WoWWiki, but apparently they're undergoing a split since Wikia is changing a bunch of stuff and their TOU. |
18:00.18 | Humbedooh | hm sounds like an idea ye |
18:00.21 | Torhal | So if anyone wants to host the offshoot, talk to kd3 |
18:00.24 | Torhal | Heh |
18:00.45 | SqueeG | A split? O_o |
18:00.58 | nebula169 | really now, what is wikia changing? |
18:01.08 | Torhal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F&t=20100930015728 |
18:01.28 | quiescens | o.o |
18:01.58 | SqueeG | the acting in gran torino is terrible |
18:02.55 | SqueeG | *Every* single actor is stiff |
18:03.00 | SqueeG | Not to be off topic >.> |
18:05.45 | p3lim | 7siaxonnwxr |
18:05.56 | p3lim | wth |
18:06.07 | SqueeG | curse into hosting wikis? >.> |
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18:09.24 | p3lim | ~botsnack |
18:09.24 | purl | p3lim: aw, gee |
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18:17.59 | durcyn | you forgot the username, p3lim |
18:19.14 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: any reason why he shouldn't use his findings to update wowprogramming.com? |
18:19.36 | jnwhiteh | s/shouldn't/couldn't/ |
18:21.46 | quiescens | moo |
18:22.49 | SqueeG | Humbedooh, You should use that wow logo as your default pic for the lib |
18:22.51 | SqueeG | that's impressive |
18:23.03 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: I keep forgetting it isn't just a reference site |
18:23.08 | Torhal | Sorry :( |
18:23.13 | jnwhiteh | no worries |
18:23.15 | jnwhiteh | its just going nowhere |
18:23.30 | SqueeG | I use wowprogramming a lot :p |
18:23.32 | jnwhiteh | and has a more accurate API listing than wowwiki has |
18:23.39 | Torhal | Really? I actually find it more useful that the API docs on WoWWiki |
18:23.50 | jnwhiteh | I should get in touch with kd3 if they come out from under wikia. |
18:23.56 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: I was saying its more accurate than wowwiki =) |
18:24.14 | Torhal | I was replying to: +jnwhiteh | its just going nowhere |
18:24.20 | jnwhiteh | oh |
18:24.23 | Torhal | Heh |
18:24.24 | jnwhiteh | i meant it's not disappearing =) |
18:24.29 | jnwhiteh | as in no fork, no split =) |
18:24.35 | Torhal | Good. |
18:24.46 | SqueeG | xD |
18:25.20 | SqueeG | It could use some 'examples' though >.. |
18:25.22 | SqueeG | >.>* |
18:25.34 | quiescens | wowwiki was nice for random details about ingame mechanics |
18:25.39 | jnwhiteh | SqueeG: .. http://wowprogramming.com/snippets |
18:25.43 | quiescens | although you could never tell whether it was up to date |
18:25.45 | jnwhiteh | and on the individual API pages |
18:25.53 | SqueeG | lol, I meant with the stuff you look up |
18:25.55 | jnwhiteh | feel free to add any examples to any page you'd like.. it's fully editable. |
18:26.03 | jnwhiteh | SqueeG: there ARE examples for many API functions |
18:26.05 | jnwhiteh | just not all of them |
18:26.07 | jnwhiteh | same as wowwiki |
18:26.09 | SqueeG | Huh |
18:27.47 | SqueeG | Ha, just found one ./facepalm |
18:28.33 | SqueeG | Oh YEA? the search box still doesn't auto-clear on focus! >.> |
18:28.43 | SqueeG | fails at being ornery |
18:29.57 | quiescens | o.O |
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18:41.20 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten, ckknight: have you guys changed the ssl key the server uses? putty just spouted a warning in my face |
18:41.33 | nevcairiel | read announcements <.< |
18:41.44 | stolenlegacy | oops |
18:42.29 | Ackis | ~lart stolenlegacy |
18:42.29 | purl | offers stolenlegacy some herring |
18:42.37 | stolenlegacy | Ackis: :( |
18:43.56 | p3lim | looking for a gnome wifi applet, suggestions are welcome :) |
18:44.08 | Ackis | you deserved it stolenlegacy :P |
18:44.25 | stolenlegacy | i go directly to my addon pages if i need them |
18:44.31 | stolenlegacy | i never actually hit the front page |
18:44.31 | p3lim | the one that came with ubuntu is in the notification area, and its always displaying incorrect information :/ |
18:44.54 | quiescens | your computer is out to get you |
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18:45.23 | durcyn | you're pretty much stuck with nm-applet |
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18:45.56 | quiescens | in what way is it displaying incorrect information |
18:46.09 | durcyn | and the information is provided by the driver via NetworkManager, so it's not like a different display would accomplish much |
18:46.41 | durcyn | (note: networkmanager sucks.) |
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18:48.11 | p3lim | durcyn: yeah I figured that out |
18:48.19 | p3lim | would love a replacement |
18:48.32 | p3lim | finally found a battery applet though |
18:48.32 | quiescens | fine! |
18:48.35 | evl | HAHAH |
18:48.41 | evl | Both Brewfest mounts in 2 days |
18:48.44 | evl | Tell me the odds |
18:48.55 | SqueeG | ....hate you |
18:49.20 | durcyn | it's either keep NM, hardcode the config in with wpa-supplicant, or replace the wireless card |
18:49.35 | p3lim | hard to replace the card as its a laptop |
18:49.51 | durcyn | easy if it's mini-pcie, hard if it's onboard |
18:49.53 | quiescens | eh |
18:50.00 | p3lim | onboard |
18:50.16 | quiescens | wicd is a viable alternative depending on what you need |
18:50.19 | durcyn | and what exactly is it misreporting? |
18:50.26 | p3lim | the connection |
18:50.27 | quiescens | i already asked that |
18:50.31 | Ali1331 | here's a question, why, after installing Windows 7 when I try to login to my guild's SMF forum it sends me to the "index.php?action=login2" page and then stops? |
18:50.36 | quiescens | like 5 or 6 minutes ago |
18:50.37 | p3lim | its always showing no connection or alert |
18:50.39 | quiescens | ): |
18:50.44 | Ali1331 | if I refresh, it asks to resend info and then says the password is incorrect |
18:50.59 | stolenlegacy | Ali1331: what browser are you using |
18:51.00 | SqueeG | what browser |
18:51.05 | Ali1331 | firefox |
18:51.06 | p3lim | Ali1331: dump the cache |
18:51.06 | durcyn | well, see, networkmanager, being a piece of shit, doesn't establish the connection until you unlock the gnome-keyring, since that's where it stores the wpa passphrase |
18:51.07 | MoonWitch | Ali, that has little to do with Win7, it's or your browser, or their site |
18:51.33 | p3lim | it shows it right for a few minutes |
18:51.41 | p3lim | then it either show disconnect or alert |
18:51.42 | Ali1331 | W7 is the only thing that has changed |
18:51.46 | ckknight | Ali1331: get chrome |
18:51.51 | quiescens | the keyring should unlock when you log in assuming you enter a password to log in, either way i doubt it is related |
18:51.54 | Ali1331 | no... |
18:52.01 | durcyn | that NM doesn't have a system-level store for WPA/802.1x is egregious |
18:52.25 | p3lim | I don't have a password on my wireless, I use a mac filter |
18:52.51 | stolenlegacy | Ali1331: the index.php?action=login2 page is simply blank? |
18:52.55 | Ali1331 | yes |
18:53.14 | stolenlegacy | assuming you don't have a very outdated firefox that looks like a header issue from the server to me |
18:53.17 | quiescens | you can store them for all users with a checkbox |
18:53.30 | quiescens | it just defaults to being for the current user |
18:53.34 | stolenlegacy | try wiping your cache though |
18:53.42 | p3lim | yeah i've tried checking off all users |
18:54.04 | quiescens | oh i doubt that would fix it, i'm just saying that it does have the option |
18:54.13 | Ali1331 | oh and ckknight, chrome does the same thing >.< |
18:54.17 | p3lim | the NM applet itself looks ok, so graphically there is no problem |
18:54.58 | SqueeG | quiescens, probably a problem with the site |
18:55.12 | durcyn | you might also try alternative drivers like (ugh) ndiswrapper |
18:55.14 | stolenlegacy | Ali1331: then it's server related |
18:55.18 | quiescens | is in the *other* conversation |
18:55.22 | quiescens | lol |
18:55.29 | SqueeG | err |
18:55.33 | SqueeG | sorry quiescens |
18:55.53 | SqueeG | just had a conversation about typing while one's mind is one something else :p |
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18:56.13 | Ali1331 | they're working fine apparently stolenlegacy |
18:56.29 | stolenlegacy | well, it's pretty obviously failing php |
18:56.47 | stolenlegacy | as long as you have no stupid settings (javascript off, cookies off or similar) |
18:57.32 | quiescens | p3lim: i'm inclined to think its probably reporting things accurately, just that its not getting accurate info from the driver or whatever |
18:57.44 | Ali1331 | well it works fine for everyone else, and no JS/Cookies are not disabled |
18:58.21 | quiescens | p3lim: still, you could look into trying wicd as an alternative if you want to drop the default networkmanager |
18:59.07 | p3lim | currently using the Broadcom driver that ubuntu suggested |
18:59.47 | p3lim | but I'll try out wicd |
19:01.45 | p3lim | installer failed at starting it :p |
19:04.55 | p3lim | there we go, wicd is displaying correct information, though the applet looks like shit :p |
19:07.48 | quiescens | shrugs |
19:08.14 | quiescens | i use the default networkmanager |
19:08.36 | quiescens | besides, it supports the um |
19:08.53 | quiescens | mobile internet thingy |
19:09.07 | quiescens | whereas wicd is for local wireless/wired only |
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19:09.28 | Ali1331 | no more ideas then? |
19:10.03 | p3lim | im only using wireless anyways, got n support so its quite strong |
19:10.23 | nevcairiel | wireless for gaming is fail |
19:10.42 | p3lim | did I say I play on the laptop though? :P |
19:11.21 | quiescens | i mean the mobile thingy for using it on the move |
19:12.04 | p3lim | its a $600 laptop that I'm going to use for entertainment/social once I'm shipped off for military duty, so no gaming on it |
19:12.18 | p3lim | got my desktop for that |
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19:19.42 | Galvin | so the packager picks up on 40000 in the toc and makes a different zip for it that people can tell its for cata and not live? |
19:21.05 | nevcairiel | people could tell, but they don't |
19:21.20 | nevcairiel | they use the updater, whill doesn't care, and everyone gets the 4.0 version |
19:21.24 | nevcairiel | which could be broken on live |
19:21.31 | Galvin | So theres no way to have a cata zip download option on curse? |
19:21.35 | p3lim | quiescens: mobile internet, as in 3G? |
19:22.03 | Galvin | I wanted to make it easy for people to download the cata addon version but its going to cause issues i'll just wait. |
19:22.42 | Galvin | I like to download mods for cata/ptr so I can get ahead of the game before release. |
19:23.25 | nevcairiel | the curse client sadly is not smart enough for that |
19:23.48 | Galvin | I guess that's a curse in its self then :P |
19:26.16 | nebula169 | ah, my bad, i thought when kael added the 4.0.0 game version the client picked up on it |
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20:16.51 | sylvanaar | Galvin: one of the most downvoted tickets.... http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1889-substitution-token-for-toc-interface-version/ |
20:17.12 | sylvanaar | actually the #1 downvoted |
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20:18.13 | sylvanaar | the intent was to solve problems like these - with multiple versions of varying compatiblity |
20:19.04 | nevcairiel | how does that solve his problem that he wants to provide a cataclysm version for testing? |
20:19.42 | Ackis | sylvanaar: you'll notice it's not declined however :P |
20:19.58 | sylvanaar | lol Ackis |
20:20.00 | nevcairiel | You would still somehow cause a re-packaging |
20:20.04 | nevcairiel | could as well bump the toc |
20:20.07 | nevcairiel | shrugs :D |
20:21.33 | nevcairiel | the client (and partly the website) just needs to be aware of the toc |
20:21.45 | Kaelten | how's it going guys |
20:21.59 | sylvanaar | you know same stuff different day |
20:22.28 | nevcairiel | hmm |
20:22.37 | nevcairiel | i wonder if i can fix the damn documenter status page with the stylesheets |
20:22.41 | sylvanaar | @project prat-3-0 |
20:22.44 | Repo | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 217/431 |
20:22.54 | nevcairiel | all its missing is a damn <pre> tag to look better <.< |
20:22.55 | sylvanaar | oop not yet |
20:23.04 | sylvanaar | the documenter works for you nev |
20:23.10 | sylvanaar | i cant get it to work for me |
20:23.14 | Kaelten | it's not running yet |
20:23.24 | nevcairiel | apparently its been broken for quite a while for many people |
20:23.26 | Kaelten | spent all morning fixing small things in the packager |
20:23.26 | sylvanaar | no i mean ever |
20:23.28 | nevcairiel | but the log is just unreadable |
20:23.51 | Kaelten | :/ |
20:23.59 | sylvanaar | it works for some people and not others |
20:24.03 | sylvanaar | cant figure out why |
20:24.06 | Kaelten | thats..... not logical |
20:24.14 | arkanes_ | what we really need, is svnbrowse |
20:24.18 | Megalon | Fisker |
20:24.56 | Kaelten | oh it's the if userid % has == 3: raise Exception("Not going to happen") |
20:25.06 | Kaelten | er |
20:25.08 | sylvanaar | doesnt fish support all 3 repo types |
20:25.28 | sylvanaar | i know it works for ARL, and for CKK's liblinq |
20:25.59 | Megalon | http://www.livestream.com/samsung |
20:26.10 | Megalon | WCG SCBW Fisker |
20:26.11 | Megalon | watch it |
20:27.10 | Megalon | flying in dapollo |
20:27.11 | nevcairiel | funny |
20:27.14 | Megalon | when day9 lives next door |
20:27.15 | nevcairiel | my css rule works |
20:27.20 | nevcairiel | but it freaking escapes html codes |
20:27.23 | nevcairiel | <.< |
20:27.29 | Megalon | what a bullshit wcg seems to be :S |
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20:32.37 | nevcairiel | yay i fixed the status page |
20:32.39 | nevcairiel | css to the rescue |
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20:41.35 | Humbedooh | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/images/19-render-test-wow-logo/ trying some new ways of coloring |
20:41.42 | Humbedooh | seems to work smoother than the old way |
20:42.53 | nevcairiel | haha you really made the cat happy |
20:43.03 | Humbedooh | yes I did ^^ |
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20:44.04 | nevcairiel | the ring around the W looks somewhat different |
20:44.13 | nevcairiel | some weird 3D effect thats not in the reference |
20:44.33 | Humbedooh | yeah it's because a lot of the gradients are rotated and radial and such |
20:44.43 | Humbedooh | which is gonna be a pain to support |
20:45.30 | Humbedooh | you can see on the four edge triangles as well that the gradient ain't rotated |
20:49.01 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i see the "new" curse points thing doesnt give you individual gains anymore when it "forgot" one, heh |
20:50.23 | Kaelten | nope |
20:50.27 | Kaelten | it just redistributes |
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20:51.45 | nevcairiel | I could go with that for daily gains, though =) |
20:52.46 | Kaelten | lol |
20:52.52 | Kaelten | ya double is nice huh? |
20:53.53 | nevcairiel | Can't complain ;) |
20:54.26 | nevcairiel | I need to work on my stuff over the weekend though, apparently only 2 weeks left before 4.0 =( |
20:54.36 | MindWorX` | Is there a way to check if i'm behind a target or if i can use shred/backstab? |
20:54.49 | nevcairiel | nop |
20:55.16 | MindWorX` | Okay |
20:55.37 | MindWorX` | Well, not for npcs atleast, it should be possible for players using maplocation and unitfacing |
20:55.53 | MindWorX` | But then it'd only be useful in PvP |
20:56.22 | nevcairiel | there is only GetPlayerFacing, not for other units, afaik |
20:56.30 | nevcairiel | and map location only works for group/raid members |
20:56.35 | koaschten_ | seriously an alchemy mount? |
20:56.36 | nevcairiel | so not even pvp |
20:56.43 | MindWorX` | Ah |
20:56.56 | nevcairiel | koaschten_: hooray |
20:57.10 | nevcairiel | wonder how it looks |
20:57.18 | nevcairiel | finally something really fun for alchemists :D |
20:57.33 | Axodious | all those mounts look cooler in shadowform |
20:57.37 | koaschten_ | .... bibi got a video nevcairiel |
20:57.43 | Axodious | the glowing runes on them dont go all shadowed |
20:58.05 | nevcairiel | oh, i should read text |
20:58.11 | nevcairiel | the first frame only said sandstone drake |
20:58.35 | nevcairiel | what do i know to associate those! |
20:58.40 | Axodious | the alch mount turns you into a drake |
20:58.44 | Axodious | and someone can ride you |
20:58.50 | nevcairiel | that sounds dirty |
20:58.54 | Axodious | see what i did there? yes you did |
20:59.06 | nevcairiel | but its awesome |
20:59.10 | nevcairiel | a passenger mount |
21:00.52 | Axodious | so apparently right now facebook takes up 10% of all internet traffic >_> |
21:01.48 | Gagorian | I seriously doubt it >_> |
21:03.06 | Torhal | I -seriously- doubt it. |
21:03.14 | Torhal | I can go all caps, if you'd like. |
21:03.32 | Megalon | but porn takes up 90% |
21:03.36 | Megalon | and P2P 80% |
21:03.38 | nevcairiel | 99% of the traffic is porn, i dont see facebook fitting in there |
21:03.40 | koaschten_ | oooh euro premade queue down to 3 days, perhaps i get to copy a premade sooon |
21:03.43 | Megalon | so you are already at 170% |
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21:03.57 | nevcairiel | Megalon: many people P2P porn, though |
21:03.58 | nevcairiel | ! |
21:04.03 | Gnarfoz | koaschten_: by then you could just have equipped your transferred one |
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21:05.24 | Megalon | lee young ho! |
21:07.37 | p3lim | whats the program/applet that shows cpu etc on the top panel here? http://th03.deviantart.net/fs35/PRE/f/2008/298/9/c/Arch_October___08_III_by_BalanceST.png |
21:08.02 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/252-subversion-1-6/ |
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21:08.38 | Kaelten | :( |
21:08.44 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: ^ |
21:09.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
21:09.14 | Niv | why does anyone care about 1.6 server side? |
21:09.19 | Niv | all you really get is fsfs packing |
21:09.24 | Kaelten | because we were using 1.4 |
21:09.27 | nevcairiel | because before it was something ancient |
21:09.29 | Niv | oh |
21:09.31 | Niv | you're not on 1.5 |
21:09.35 | Kaelten | nope we weren't |
21:09.38 | Niv | so mergeinfo ftl |
21:09.49 | Kaelten | wonder if I need to run any scripts to upgrade the repos |
21:09.55 | Kaelten | or if it'll just happen as time goes by |
21:09.55 | nevcairiel | you need to |
21:10.01 | nevcairiel | it doesnt convert on the fly |
21:10.15 | Niv | were you guys doing any mergeinfo tracking w/ 1.4? |
21:10.31 | nevcairiel | merge trackin is also one of the features that requires a 1.5 repo layout <.< |
21:10.35 | Niv | not really |
21:10.39 | Niv | svn:merginfo is |
21:10.54 | Niv | but there was mergetracking happening before that |
21:11.01 | Niv | via svnmerge |
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21:11.10 | Niv | I just don't know what curse was doing |
21:11.32 | nevcairiel | merge tracking before 1.5 was silly though |
21:11.37 | Niv | agreed |
21:11.49 | Kaelten | just to confirm |
21:11.57 | Niv | but I didn't think there was anything else between 1.4->1.5 repo side |
21:11.59 | Kaelten | 1.6 servers supports old clients |
21:12.02 | Niv | that you would have to upgrae |
21:12.05 | Niv | Kaelten: sadly yes |
21:12.12 | Niv | they cause all sorts of fucking problems |
21:12.18 | Kaelten | lol |
21:12.24 | Kaelten | I just don't want to upgrade the repos |
21:12.25 | Niv | we blocked all pre-1.5 clients |
21:12.30 | Kaelten | and then have everyone freak out at me |
21:12.33 | Niv | because they trash mergeinfo |
21:12.38 | Kaelten | heh |
21:12.43 | Kaelten | how did you go about doing that? |
21:12.45 | Kaelten | a hook? |
21:12.46 | Niv | and 1.5 has shitloads of merge issues on the client side |
21:12.53 | Niv | yea, want me to send it? |
21:12.58 | Kaelten | might be best |
21:13.07 | Niv | kaelten@curse.com work? |
21:13.19 | Kaelten | bmclemore@ |
21:13.20 | Niv | or something less obvious |
21:13.22 | Niv | k |
21:13.29 | Kaelten | not sure if my kaelten alias is still functioning |
21:13.54 | nevcairiel | if anyone is still using svn 1.4, they deserve to get broken stuff |
21:14.04 | Niv | we also added a hook to stop people from setting svn:mergeinfo props on anything but the root directory |
21:14.14 | nevcairiel | speaking of kaelten alias, there was some guy on the forums having problems with his gift cert, he said he mailed you but never got a response |
21:14.17 | Niv | because the 1.5 and early 1.6 clients do stupid shit |
21:14.18 | nevcairiel | possibly because of that =P |
21:14.25 | Niv | evne 1.6.12 does |
21:14.28 | Niv | for some bugs |
21:14.47 | Kaelten | please share :) |
21:14.54 | Niv | nevcairiel: it's nicer to deny the client outright than it is to let them fail because of ignorance ;) |
21:15.35 | Niv | I don't know that the svn:mergeinfo script I have would scale well enough for curse |
21:15.45 | Niv | in fact, I'm sure it wouldn't |
21:15.57 | Niv | I only have to deal with a handful of repos and a couple hundred devs |
21:16.06 | Niv | they codebase is big, but not a lot of repos |
21:16.10 | Axodious | http://gizmodo.com/5652348/new-yorks-subway-may-not-survive-tropical-storm-nicole <- scuba diving anyone? |
21:19.17 | nevcairiel | first the repository needs to be converted to the new format anyway, or its pointless :D |
21:20.30 | Niv | yea, you have to upgrade the repos for merge tracking if you're coming from 1.4 |
21:20.33 | Niv | sucks to be you! :) |
21:21.00 | nevcairiel | I converted most my stuff to git |
21:21.09 | nevcairiel | only ace3 is stuck on svn |
21:21.16 | nevcairiel | but its not seeing much branching action these days |
21:21.26 | Niv | we use both |
21:21.30 | Niv | they both have issues :) |
21:21.39 | Niv | we even do git-svn |
21:21.53 | nevcairiel | at work we use svn for everything, although soem devs use gti-svn locally |
21:22.52 | koaschten_ | this is officialy the worst corpse run |
21:22.56 | Torhal | git-svn has blown up on me at least three times, and building the local repo can be time-consuming. |
21:22.57 | koaschten_ | die at stormwind harbor |
21:22.59 | koaschten_ | as horde |
21:23.09 | Torhal | It was like 30 minutes or so for ARL, so I finally just migrated. |
21:23.48 | nevcairiel | yeah with big repos it can take a while |
21:24.00 | nevcairiel | i havent had it fail on me yet, though |
21:24.06 | nevcairiel | its just very fragile on windows |
21:24.09 | nevcairiel | works fine on linux |
21:24.22 | nevcairiel | (git-svn is, git it self works fine too) |
21:24.38 | Torhal | All three times my local repo ate itself was under Linux. |
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21:24.53 | Torhal | Every time was due to me forgetting to rebase, or there was a bad merge |
21:24.53 | nevcairiel | oh well |
21:25.02 | nevcairiel | so its your fault |
21:25.03 | nevcairiel | ;) |
21:25.11 | Torhal | I don't have that problem with git :) |
21:25.48 | nevcairiel | migrating is the better choice anyway |
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21:36.13 | starlon | Does the packager not package svn externals? |
21:36.43 | kagaro | i dont think the packaer is running right now starlon |
21:36.59 | starlon | hmm |
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21:39.11 | SqueeG | curse should steal wowwiki |
21:40.42 | Stanzilla | nice, hardware acceleration now enabled by default on chrome dev |
21:42.53 | Stanzilla | and http://blog.chromium.org/2010/09/webp-new-image-format-for-web.html ! |
21:46.15 | kagaro | rofl Blood caked blades moved to tier 3 .. *waits for a 1000 deathknights tears to fall* |
21:46.33 | SqueeG | wow |
21:46.52 | SqueeG | if anyone has the power to introduce new web standards... i'd definitely say it's googulz |
21:48.17 | koaschten_ | saw the hunter nerfs? |
21:49.40 | koaschten_ | oh Bibi you sneaky french man |
21:50.01 | koaschten_ | dec. 14th eeh? |
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21:54.33 | Stanzilla | that's from the ui stuff |
21:54.41 | Stanzilla | cause it says season 9 starts there |
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21:55.57 | Amadeo | hola peoples |
21:56.12 | Amadeo | good to see everyone's still at it :) |
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21:57.07 | breeze_ | How do I give a Frame a fixed width? |
21:57.18 | Humbedooh | Frame:SetWidth(12345) ? |
21:57.58 | breeze_ | can I stop it from resizing? when it's resized it can't get that small anymore :P |
21:58.14 | breeze_ | I'm using a width of 200 |
21:59.05 | Niv | starlon: you mean via svn:externals, or in your package meta? |
21:59.17 | Humbedooh | you mean set a minimum size? |
21:59.39 | starlon | Niv: via svn:externals |
22:00.01 | breeze_ | Humbedooh, Yup. Or stopping it from resizing completely would work too |
22:00.09 | Niv | starlon: you need to use package meta afaik |
22:00.16 | Niv | there's a faq on it |
22:00.16 | Humbedooh | frame:SetMinResize(minwidth, minheight); |
22:00.51 | starlon | yes, but I can't use the .pkgmeta for a library I don't believe |
22:01.23 | starlon | I did and it caused my package to have two copies of libstub |
22:01.31 | starlon | in the same folder |
22:01.36 | Humbedooh | how so, starlon? |
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22:02.01 | arkanes | breeze_: normally you must opt in to resizing |
22:02.23 | Humbedooh | with frame:SetResizable(boolean) |
22:02.30 | Niv | starlon: let me find my repo and look |
22:02.41 | arkanes | and then do some stuff to wire up the mouse events so that they can actually manipulate the frame |
22:03.14 | arkanes | breeze_: if they're using an addon like MoveAnything or whatever, there's not much you can do to stop them from resizing the frame to whatever size they want. They can call all the same functions you can./ |
22:03.29 | Niv | starlon: http://ace.pastey.net/141058 |
22:03.30 | Humbedooh | http://paste.wowace.com/2525/ |
22:03.33 | Humbedooh | for breeze_ |
22:03.47 | Niv | starlon: I assume you're not checking in stuff in Libs/ |
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22:04.43 | Humbedooh | well you can counter it with OnSizeChanged or whatever it's called |
22:04.59 | arkanes | but then they can just unhook your scripts |
22:05.01 | arkanes | and so on |
22:05.11 | starlon | well, when I embed the library in another addon, it places the library's .pkgmeta files in the addon's Libs directory, causing two copies of LibStub.lua to exist in the addon's Libs directory. |
22:05.32 | breeze_ | No methods called SetMinResize or SetResizable? or are you talking about the standard blizzard frame? I'm using AceGUI atm |
22:05.38 | Humbedooh | tell the packager to ignore .pkgmeta files in sub folders? |
22:05.53 | starlon | hmm |
22:05.57 | kagaro | whats your externals look like starlon? |
22:05.59 | Humbedooh | it's a standard API call ye |
22:06.15 | starlon | svn:externals? |
22:06.20 | kagaro | yes |
22:06.35 | kagaro | in your .pkgmeta |
22:06.55 | Humbedooh | if you wanna "hack" the AceGUI stuff, you can do frame.frame:SetMinResize |
22:07.17 | Humbedooh | fx, local myframe = AceGUI:Create("Frame"); myframe.frame:SetMinResize(x,y) |
22:07.35 | starlon | http://ace.pastey.net/141059 |
22:08.16 | Humbedooh | libraries shouldn't have .pkgmeta included though...sounds a bit odd |
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22:09.59 | starlon | Hmm LibQTip has a .pkgmeta |
22:10.08 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: 60 days inactivity on Curseforge? |
22:10.10 | starlon | it embeds LibStub |
22:10.14 | jnwhiteh | wtfzors? |
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22:10.22 | Kaelten | ? |
22:10.35 | breeze_ | Humbedooh: How can I add an AceGUI group as child of the standard frame? |
22:10.37 | jnwhiteh | NinjaPanel just got marked as inactive |
22:10.52 | jnwhiteh | fixed it |
22:10.56 | jnwhiteh | but was surprised |
22:11.17 | Humbedooh | breeze_: aceframe:SetParent(parentFrame) |
22:11.30 | Kaelten | oh ya, that |
22:11.31 | Humbedooh | and then to string it up, use aceframe:SetAllPoints |
22:11.37 | breeze_ | thanks :) |
22:11.38 | Kaelten | it's a questionable policy that I've been debating changing |
22:11.42 | Kaelten | the cron that takes care of that |
22:11.47 | jnwhiteh | at least it emails =) |
22:11.47 | Kaelten | has been broke for weeks (months?) |
22:11.53 | Kaelten | until today |
22:11.59 | jnwhiteh | ah, heh |
22:12.16 | Kaelten | now new git repos aren't being made properly |
22:12.18 | Kaelten | and I don't know why |
22:12.34 | jnwhiteh | bah |
22:14.51 | koaschten_ | hmm anyone can log on beta mekkatorque? |
22:17.56 | Shadowed | We're sorry, your project, Damn Unit Sounds (http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/damn-unit-sounds/), has been marked as inactive on CurseForge. |
22:17.57 | Shadowed | wat |
22:18.01 | Shadowed | since when did things get markedinactive |
22:18.03 | Shadowed | automatically |
22:18.11 | SqueeG | <PROTECTED> |
22:18.15 | Shadowed | also its been more like a year |
22:18.18 | SqueeG | where's vol'jin? >.> |
22:18.21 | Shadowed | not 60 days |
22:18.29 | Shadowed | Kaelten did you break some notifier |
22:18.31 | Megalon | koaschten_: yes ;x |
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22:26.03 | Adys | ~seen tuller |
22:26.11 | purl | tuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 4h 13m 21s ago, saying: 'i've purposefully forced myself to not look at the sc2 editor'. |
22:27.01 | Humbedooh | ~seen my_glasses |
22:27.02 | purl | i haven't seen 'my_glasses', Humbedooh |
22:27.08 | Humbedooh | :( |
22:28.36 | bluspacecow | ~seen my sex life |
22:28.38 | purl | bluspacecow: i haven't seen 'my sex life' |
22:28.54 | bluspacecow | >_> |
22:29.00 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
22:29.05 | Megalon | ~seen educated american |
22:29.06 | purl | i haven't seen 'educated american', Megalon |
22:29.15 | Megalon | hurr durr |
22:29.27 | Megalon | also works with other nations |
22:29.30 | Megalon | ~seen funny german |
22:29.31 | purl | i haven't seen 'funny german', Megalon |
22:29.50 | Adys | ~seen denmark |
22:29.50 | purl | i haven't seen 'denmark', Adys |
22:29.55 | Adys | Yep |
22:30.03 | Adys | looks at Kalroth and doesn't see anything |
22:30.32 | Megalon | isn't denmark part of the rotten fish eaters club |
22:30.38 | Humbedooh | nooo |
22:30.52 | Humbedooh | that's the swedes |
22:30.55 | Megalon | with all da norsks |
22:30.56 | Megalon | and fins |
22:30.59 | Megalon | and swedes |
22:31.05 | Connor1 | My city has a Political Animals Club. |
22:31.09 | Connor1 | Whatever that means |
22:31.33 | Megalon | http://pw0nd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/rotten.jpg |
22:31.42 | Humbedooh | soooo, when will Repo start working again, huh huh? |
22:31.59 | bluspacecow | when fisker stops humping it |
22:32.31 | Humbedooh | so...never? ;( |
22:32.44 | bluspacecow | lolz |
22:32.56 | bluspacecow | I r kidding |
22:33.06 | Megalon | it is repo humping Fisker |
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22:47.48 | starlon | I guess my problem with the 2 LibStubs was due to something else other than having a .pkgmeta in my library. *shrug* It works fine now. |
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23:14.04 | arkanes | I guess I better finish my addons, if 4.0 is gonna launch so soon |
23:14.37 | bluspacecow | nah |
23:14.41 | bluspacecow | do it when it hits :D |
23:14.53 | bluspacecow | more certainty over Lua api changes that way :) |
23:16.02 | Humbedooh | "so soon"... |
23:16.07 | Humbedooh | that's quite a relative term ;p |
23:19.16 | arkanes | Humbedooh: signs are pointing next week or the one after |
23:20.18 | Humbedooh | as in October? o.O |
23:20.30 | arkanes | the 5th |
23:20.30 | arkanes | yes |
23:20.33 | nebula169 | 4.0.1 by the 12th |
23:20.44 | arkanes | Humbedooh: thats 4.0, not cata |
23:21.01 | Humbedooh | ah |
23:21.02 | Axodious | cata is dec 7 |
23:21.04 | Axodious | supposedly |
23:21.07 | Humbedooh | well that makes more sense ;p |
23:21.08 | Axodious | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
23:21.27 | arkanes | man |
23:21.33 | arkanes | log in to work on it and server restart in 15 |
23:21.47 | starlon | typical |
23:22.26 | Axodious | personally i think there's going to be a pretty big 4.1 pretty quick after release... been following the forums a bit and a lot of people have problems with their class |
23:22.57 | Axodious | they're just trying to get it out for christmas sales |
23:23.15 | arkanes | the mechanics all feel pretty good good |
23:23.22 | nebula169 | like blizzard needs xmas to drive sales |
23:23.28 | arkanes | 90% of the qq is about not doing enough damage, which is easily remedied |
23:23.29 | nebula169 | its not really something you gift someone |
23:23.47 | Axodious | nah arkanes, there's a few classes that just feel meh overall |
23:23.51 | arkanes | last build had damage buffs for a lot of the classes that were hurting, like pallies and rogues |
23:24.11 | arkanes | Axodious: I've only leveled to 85 on my pally, but I've touched most of my toons and I don't see much to complain about in any of them |
23:24.15 | nebula169 | and 4.1 won't be until the next raid tier is out |
23:24.26 | arkanes | aside from "I don't like blizzards direction", which isn't something thats going to change |
23:24.43 | nebula169 | people will find anything to bitch about |
23:24.52 | Niv | I logged in |
23:24.54 | Niv | and did NOT get a pony |
23:25.00 | Niv | wtf is that shit |
23:25.15 | arkanes | speak for yourself |
23:25.21 | arkanes | I logged in and got *2* ponies |
23:25.39 | Niv | you bastard, give me my pony |
23:26.32 | Niv | Bibi has gotten good at dodging my IMs, about time! |
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23:32.05 | Bibi | doesn't have anything to do with you |
23:32.07 | Bibi | just with stupid questions |
23:32.16 | ckknight | bow before me, Bibi! |
23:32.18 | Niv | haha |
23:32.30 | Bibi | ckknight: you wish! |
23:32.34 | Niv | how was that a stupid question, I know nothing of your model tools! |
23:32.36 | ckknight | bah |
23:32.45 | ckknight | just bend over, then |
23:35.02 | Humbedooh | sheesh, had to rename my character four times just to log on now ;< |
23:36.05 | Humbedooh | I blame you, Bibi! |
23:36.35 | Blu|Foods | <3 new hak5 podcast |
23:37.08 | Humbedooh | sooo, any updates on poor mr. Repo? |
23:38.02 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | and yes |
23:38.06 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | i installed steam |
23:38.15 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | and downloaded and played Torchlight :D |
23:39.20 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | IMHO Blizzard should put out a major patch on a day _other_ then Tuesday for the US realms |
23:39.34 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | just to F**** with our heads :) |
23:40.13 | Humbedooh | oh yes, let's have that discussion again :p |
23:40.21 | Humbedooh | with how the French suck and whatnot |
23:42.11 | Humbedooh | "You have no active World of Warcraft Accounts Attached"... |
23:42.14 | Humbedooh | hmmm, yes I do :( |
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23:45.49 | Yssaril | Bibi: you have Pyrium-Laced Crystalline Vial listed twice in the reagent list for Vial of the Sands |
23:46.19 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | hi bibi |
23:46.40 | Niv | so if cataclysm launches on december 7th, pearl harbor day what? :) |
23:47.22 | Niv | that's all my 5 year annversary. I would if I'd get a divorce for playing wow all day :) |
23:53.03 | Humbedooh | hmm "You have no active Catalysm Beta Accounts Attached " ;( |
23:53.09 | Humbedooh | ~stab forum |
23:53.09 | purl | ACTION runs at forum with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
23:53.40 | nebula169 | Humbedooh: I usually have to relog on the beta forums |
23:54.17 | Humbedooh | I'm logged on but it keeps saying I don't have any characters |
23:54.33 | Humbedooh | I think it tries to pull data off my WoW1 account and not WoW2 |
23:55.33 | Humbedooh | and WoW1 is the wotlk ptr and not cataclysm ptr :\ |
23:56.11 | kagaro | *waits for repo to build packages* |
23:56.41 | nebula169 | isn't wow1 beta, and wow2 ptr? |
23:56.55 | nebula169 | ah |
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23:57.45 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | using the right client ? |
23:58.41 | Humbedooh | ye ye, it just thinks that WoW1 is my cata account, which it isnt |
23:59.05 | Humbedooh | since I got both a ptr account for cataclysm and for wotlk (dunno why) |
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