IRC log for #wowace on 20100928

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00:38.50Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r7552 Ulduar/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs:
00:38.52Repo- zhCN/zhTW cleanup.
00:43.27Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r19 LibSVG-1.0.lua:
00:43.29RepoFixed a stupid bug in calculating elliptical arc curves where angleStart was declared in degrees and not radians
00:43.30RepoRemoved some debug prints
00:43.40Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r7553 Northrend/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs:
00:43.41Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
00:49.05Parnicyo arrowmaster - you should tag LibJostle so that people running disembedded don't hit the FCF_UpdateCombatLogPosition bug :)
00:49.30Arrowmasteri thought i did tag it
00:49.50Parnichttp://www.wowace.com/addons/libjostle-3-0/files/ r50 is latest so that's what gets pulled down unless you specify alpha
00:50.13Arrowmasterwhats the current toc?
00:50.18Parnic30300
00:50.18Humbedooh30300 ?
00:53.12Repo10libjostle-3-0: 03Arrowmaster 04v30300 * r51 : Tagging as v30300
00:53.22Arrowmasterthat better?
00:53.33Parnicthanks :)
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01:07.27Zhinjiois anyone here a hiring manager?
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01:46.52Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r20 LibSVG-1.0.lua: Fixed a mix-up in the matrix translation tables
01:46.54RepoAdded gray, teal and orange to the list of named colors
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01:55.26stew-adoes anybody know any good loremaster addons? everyquest isn't bad, but it has absolutely no concept of 'quest chains'
01:56.44ulicmaybe tourguide, got me enough quests for all northrend zones except IC
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01:57.03ulicbut I think that's just because it skips the group quests
01:57.29stew-athanks, i just need the 2 classic achievements
01:58.07ulicwell it has quests for those too, but I just don't know if it's got enough for loremaster
01:59.04ulicI've just used it for leveling
01:59.23ulicsomebody may have posted about success on the forums though.
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02:16.49Axodiousomg i hate checksums so much
02:16.51Axodioussoooooo much
02:17.19Axodiouseverytime i check a file
02:17.29Axodiousit decides to change the checksum like every 20 minutes
02:18.32Tentacledthe very same file..?
02:18.38Tentacledwhoa
02:19.25Tentacledtried copying the file around into a few copies, and comparing the copies byte for byte..?
02:19.45Axodiousit's so messed up
02:19.46Tentacled'cause either you have a bad checksum calculator, or a VERY bad disk/controller...
02:19.54Axodiousi'm using 2!
02:19.56Axodiousand 3 computers!
02:20.05Tentacled2 what, 2 disks?
02:20.08Axodious2 programs
02:20.15Tentacledand they agree?
02:20.20Axodiousones fciv.exe and the others some program callled hasher
02:20.25Axodiousno!
02:20.30Axodioussometimes they flip flop!
02:20.55Axodiousone will say the correct thing for a while then change for like 5 minutes
02:20.58Axodioustehy go bcak to the right one
02:21.06Tentacledseriously, get two copies of the same file on the disk, and compare them a few times.
02:21.20Axodiousi've got 6 copies
02:21.24Tentacledoo.
02:21.26Tentacledbusy bee.
02:21.52Axodiouscould
02:21.57Axodious1 computer thats messed up
02:22.12Axodiousbe modifying them on the other computers if you like go to properties on it?
02:22.27Axodious(these are all windows, computer in question is an sbs server)
02:22.29TentacledI didn't get that sentence...
02:22.45Axodiousif you browse from teh server to say my computer
02:22.48TentacledHmm. 1 comp gets everything wrong, 2 are correct?
02:22.57Axodiousno
02:23.09Axodiousbut im wondering if there's 1 computer messing up the other 2
02:23.22Axodiouscause when you browse to a folder/file in windows
02:23.29Axodiousit does stuff to it in the background etc
02:23.40Tentacledchecks for desktop.ini etc
02:23.48Axodiousyea
02:23.57Axodiousomg
02:24.10Axodiousi was just getting one checksum over and over again on all 6
02:24.14Axodiousthen it went back to the normal checksum
02:24.24Axodiousand my other computer is spitting out the same code!
02:24.41Tentacledyou've got them synced like women on their periods.
02:24.49Axodiousi swear, my computers are conspiring
02:25.09Tentacledwhere's the file located, though? each comp now has their own?
02:25.14Tentacledor just over the net?
02:25.45Axodiouswait wait wait wait
02:25.59Axodiousok
02:26.10Axodiousafter 5 hours i made a screwup (thank god)
02:26.19Axodiousthe one program is command based
02:26.24Axodiousby default its md5
02:26.28Axodiousunless you add -sha1
02:26.44Axodiousat least now im not as crazy
02:26.48Axodiousthink the servers messed up
02:27.21Axodiousthe weird thing is
02:27.25Axodiousi can write to it fine
02:27.29Axodiousand check the files on it fine
02:27.33Axodiousbut when i go to copy back from it
02:27.36Axodiousthe checksums change
02:28.46Axodiousbut then... how is the computer booting?
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02:29.40Axodiousmy head hurts :(
02:30.15Axodiousand it only seems to be files bigger than a gig
02:30.54Tentacledor located in a faulty piece of the disk.
02:31.35Axodiousnope
02:31.37Axodiousalready ruled that out
02:31.46Axodioustook 2 2tb drives out and put them in another machine
02:31.49Axodiousall the data checks otu
02:31.58Axodiousbout to try memtest now
02:32.03Axodiousbut i doubt the ram is bad
02:32.13Axodiousthe problem has been too consistant
02:46.11MegalonFisker
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03:00.46AxodiousFisker broke my checksums i think
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03:06.47Tentacledor your cpu is overheating (checksums aren't exactly easy on the cpu), or it's a pentium with a floating-point bug!!!135
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03:08.12Axodioushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9Z9mn3ORk&feature=player_embedded <- sorta nsfw, omg wtf were they thinking!
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03:42.02Axodioushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtdZF77gc3Y&feature=player_embedded sfw
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04:06.34Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r618 modules/CustomCDBar.lua:
04:06.36Repo- fixed a bug where cooldown timers wouldn't always reset when an ability was brought off cooldown early
04:07.16Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r21 LibSVG-1.0.lua:
04:07.18RepoUnified all transformation methods to conform to the matrix(a,b,c,d,e,f) method
04:07.19RepoRemoved a dumb debug command that was making lines at the beginning of each path
04:09.16quiescenso.o
04:10.43Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r22 LibSVG-1.0.lua:
04:10.45RepoChanged the tracePath hash back to floating point style - seems to fix most of the color fill artifacts.
04:10.46RepoNudged the y-axis coordinates for color fills by 1 pixel.
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04:12.41Axodious*nudge*
04:12.45TalrynI'm trying to write a function to safely format a character name.  Upper case the first character, lower case the rest, but don't touch the rest of the name if there is a - and more text since it would be a server name.
04:12.53TalrynDoes this code seem correct then? http://paste.wowace.com/2510/
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04:15.10Humbedoohseems about right
04:15.30Humbedooheeeexcept you don't wanna use gsub for it
04:15.38Humbedoohsince, iirc, gsub doesn't use the ^ anchor
04:16.26Axodiousto hud or not to hud that is the question
04:16.34Axodioususe to use archud in bc for a while
04:16.40Axodiousthinking of goign back to one
04:16.56TalrynI thought gsub did?
04:17.05Humbedoohmight be gmatch that doesn't
04:17.11Humbedoohcan't remember and can't bother to check ;p
04:17.18TalrynI'm just not an expert with the UTF8 stuff.
04:17.22TalrynOk :-)
04:18.00Humbedoohthat's okay - WoW's Lua ain't an expert with utf8 either =)
04:18.35TalrynYes, that's really my problem :-(  It would be nice if it just handled it for me.
04:20.15Axodiouswatching memtest run on 12 gigs of ram is like watching paint dry
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05:01.16Repo10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r36 / (3 files in 2 directories): Extra wrapping options.  Localization
05:13.29ArrowmasterTalryn: did you copy that out of prat?
05:13.48TalrynPart of it, yes.  I hoped Sylvanaar had already figured out part of it.
05:14.18Arrowmasteryeah he spent a while figuring that one out
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05:16.27TalrynWhat I'm not sure about is the gsub to only lower case up to a dash
05:17.24Arrowmasterlooks right to me
05:18.02TalrynIf gsub isn't UTF8-aware, could that match incorrectly on part of a UTF8 character though?
05:18.16Xinhuanyes it can match incorrectly
05:18.29TalrynThat's what I was afraid of.
05:18.35Xinhuanyou could hardcopy utf8lib into your addon and use it
05:18.47Arrowmasterwhat he has should work fine
05:19.13TalrynThe first gsub is the one I was worried about.
05:19.26TalrynThe second gsub is from Prat so if that is working correctly, then it should be ok.
05:20.18Arrowmasterlua> ("ASDF-JKL"):gsub("^([^%-]+)", string.lower)
05:20.20lua_botArrowmaster: asdf-JKL, 1
05:20.33quiescenso.O
05:21.41TalrynBut can any foreign characters break it in other locales?
05:21.54TalrynWhere is utf8lib?
05:22.01Arrowmasterlua> ("ÄÅÉËÞÜÚÍÓÖ“”Á§ÐFGHόذ¨ÆŒ¢®BѵÇ-ÄÅÉËÞÜÚÍÓÖ“”Á§ÐFGHόذ¨ÆŒ¢®BѵÇ"):gsub("^([^%-]+)", string.lower)
05:22.01lua_botArrowmaster: ÄÅÉËÞÜÚÍÓÖ“”Á§Ðfghόذ¨ÆŒ¢®bѵÇ-ÄÅÉËÞÜÚÍÓÖ“”Á§ÐFGHόذ¨ÆŒ¢®BѵÇ, 1
05:22.26Arrowmasteroh yeah lua_bot doesnt have the special string.lower
05:22.42quiescenso.o
05:23.08Arrowmasteri just pressed every key with altgr-shift held down
05:23.41quiescensi see a lot of diamonds with small ?
05:23.46quiescensnodnod
05:23.51Arrowmasterget a better irc client
05:25.43quiescensalthough stuff like 盆栽 shows up properly
05:26.48quiescensdarn it, not running a raw log
05:27.18quiescensodd
05:27.29quiescenswhat is it supposed to look like
05:28.13quiescensa lot of it seems to be 0xc3 for some reason
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05:28.41Arrowmasterqwertyuiop[]asdfghjkl;'zxcvbnm, but with altgr-shift held down
05:28.43TalrynMostly it looks like accented capital characters
05:30.49nebula169typically what altgr+shift does :p
05:31.10doom0rTalryn: not sure if it's elsewhere, but iirc pasta has it in a repo somewhere
05:31.50GalvinUsing svn why won't it let me copy my trunk into a branch, keep telling me the branch folder already exists.
05:31.54TalrynI found http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/UTF8/utf8.lua
05:32.03TalrynIt's a decent amount of code
05:33.50Arrowmasterfor what you are doing it really isnt needed
05:34.18TalrynOk, I'll just use that then.  Thanks.
05:34.51quiescensshrugs
05:34.59quiescenssomething doesn't like it i guess
05:36.41RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rendergnome/. RenderGnome. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
05:41.20GalvinHmm copy branch is trying to copy from my hard drive and not the repository. doesn't show that in the dialogbox though.
05:43.26GalvinI get this error: Copy C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\GalvinUnitBars to svn://galvin@svn.curseforge.net/wow/galvins-unitbars/mainline/branches/Cataclysm, Revision HEAD
05:43.26GalvinPath 'branches/Cataclysm' already exists
05:44.58Galvinhave no idea why its trying to copy from my harddrive when im trying to copy from one location of the repository to another.
05:49.15Xinhuanit means your target destination already exists
05:49.23Xinhuanyou already have a branch called Cataclysm
05:49.37nebula169merge is prolly what you're looking for?
05:49.53nebula169your cata branch is empty, though
05:49.53Repo10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r37 Locale (8 files in 1 directory): Added localization files for all locales
05:49.59GalvinIm not merging i'm copying, then im going to check out the branch to a new folder.
05:50.13Xinhuanwell the "error" says that branch already exists
05:50.17Xinhuanso you can't overwrite it
05:50.26GalvinI know I have 3 folder branches, tags, trunk
05:50.26Xinhuanjust checkout the "Cataclysm" branch?
05:50.37Galvinits empty
05:50.56Xinhuanso you CAN checkout from svn://galvin@svn.curseforge.net/wow/galvins-unitbars/mainline/branches/Cataclysm ?
05:51.03Galvinso I have to delete branches/cataclysm first then do the copy?
05:51.10Xinhuancorrect!
05:51.19GalvinI could check out buit its empty so there be no data.
05:51.25Xinhuanyep
05:51.28Xinhuanthat's correct behavior
05:51.42Xinhuanbecause, a svn branch is a "cheap copy"
05:51.43GalvinI need to put something in it first before I check out.
05:51.47Xinhuanits not a real cpying process
05:51.54Xinhuanyou don't have to
05:52.00Xinhuanan empty folder is perfectly checkable
05:52.36Galvinyeah but then i'll have to copy my project into it on my harddrive instead which i dont think is a good idea.
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05:54.49Galvinthe idea is I want to create a branch for cataclysm that will go to the ptr folder addons. so my plan was to copy my latest project to branches, then check it out to ptr folder.
05:54.49nebula169doesn't really matter if the revision history isn't a big deal
05:55.25XinhuanGalvin, your plan works fine
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05:55.37Galvinyeah I guess i'll just wont copy oveer the svn files.
05:55.39Xinhuanits just that for some reason, you already have a branch so you can't recreate it
05:56.04Galvinthe system created that for me. i'll delete it
05:56.07Xinhuanbecause to "overwrite" the branch, that's actually a standard commit
05:56.43bluspacecowanyone got a Jewelcrafter on the PTR anasterian alliance side ? got a friend needing a few gems cut
05:58.04Galvinhah now it tells me branches doesn't exist
05:58.09Repo10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r38 Locale (8 files in 1 directory): Fixing default on non-enUS locales
05:58.16sbumorning
05:58.26bluspacecowoh hai sbu
05:59.14Galvinso if branches already exists it complains and it doesn't exist it complains.
06:00.24Galvinwhats the normal way to start a branch and copy your latest revision to it, cause I must be doing something wrong.
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06:04.03stew-athere's a 'branch' command that creates and copies
06:04.21Galvinthought that was branch/tag?
06:06.10Xinhuanit is
06:06.13Galvinmaybe I can just drag and drop in the repo browser?
06:06.18Xinhuannah
06:06.48Xinhuanhave you deleted your empty branch?
06:06.52Xinhuanand how did you do it
06:06.56Galvinwell branch/tag wont create the destination. yeah I have no branches folder
06:07.09Galvindid it in the repo browser. right click delete
06:07.24Xinhuani'll check your repo heh
06:07.42Xinhuan@project galvins-unitbars
06:07.45RepoXinhuan: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/galvins-unitbars/. Galvin's UnitBars. Game: WoW. Galvin (Manager/Author). Updated: 60 minutes ago
06:07.58nebula169he deleted branches apparently, lol
06:08.23Galvinyeah
06:08.23bluspacecowos x 10.6 flushing the cache = dscacheutil -flushcache   right ?
06:08.44Xinhuanbrb i need to login heh
06:09.15nebula169you need to add back in branches, then you can branch/tag to branches/cata
06:09.17Galvinwell least I haven't been bored since I started my mod around 7 weeks ago :)
06:09.24Xinhuanso you want to
06:09.31FiskerXinhuan
06:09.33Fiskergentlemen
06:09.33Xinhuantag r10 of trunk
06:09.39Xinhuanto branches/Cataclysm ?
06:09.50Xinhuanwell copy i mean
06:10.06Galvinyeah I guess thats what i want to do, but I dont really want a zip file being made of it yet.
06:10.13nebula169it wont
06:10.16nebula169unless you tag it
06:10.39Galvinthats what I was trying to do earlier, but it kept saysing branches/cataclysm already exists.
06:10.42Xinhuanlets see
06:10.50stew-aisn't a tag jsut a branch that by convention you don't edit (and that gets packaged)
06:10.54XinhuanFROM: svn://xinhuan@svn.curseforge.net/wow/galvins-unitbars/mainline/trunk r10
06:10.55nebula169correct
06:11.03Shefkistew-a: Yes.
06:11.07Xinhuanto svn://xinhuan@svn.curseforge.net/wow/galvins-unitbars/mainline/branches/Cataclysm
06:11.22Xinhuanlets see if that errors
06:11.46Galvinyou using tortoise to do that?
06:12.00Xinhuanyep but i need to remember my svn password =.=
06:12.24Xinhuanbrb
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06:12.37Galvinhow are yuou able to go into my files anyway you got admin?
06:12.55Xinhuanyep
06:13.12nebula169anyone can view the repo
06:13.32GalvinI posted the error I got a while ago. did you see it?
06:13.35quiescensxinhuan is haxing
06:14.13Xinhuanhmm i wonder if my password is correct HAHA
06:14.29GalvinWhat happens when an admin forgets their password theers no one to turn to?
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06:14.39quiescenssledgehammer
06:14.45Xinhuani acn actually change it hehe
06:14.48nebula169you could just clone the repo using the website
06:14.58nebula169and not worry about managing the svn stuff manually
06:15.04Galvinwell im trying to learn too, not do everything by the website :)
06:15.17Fiskerlocks up Xinhuan
06:15.23GalvinI do use the website to tag though
06:15.58Xinhuani suspect i need to add myself to the author list
06:16.16doom0rGalvin: admins never forget passwords.... ever
06:17.16GalvinWell when I was doing it thru tortoise the command that failed has my hard drive as the source.
06:17.38Galvineven though the dialog box didn't have my harddrive in it at all.
06:17.41ShefkiI'm around and can fix stuff too.
06:17.47ShefkiI'm just sorta busy atm.
06:18.58Galvinthe failed command was copy c:\blah blah to svn blah blah
06:20.01Xinhuan[9/28 14:18:59] <Repo> [WoW] galvins-unitbars: Xinhuan * r13 branches/: Lets recreate the /branches folder.
06:20.08Xinhuan[9/28 14:19:43] <Repo> [WoW] galvins-unitbars: Xinhuan Cataclysm * r14 : Create a branch for Cataclysm.
06:20.31Xinhuanappears i can branch it fine, after i recreated the branches folder
06:20.53Galvindid you use tortoise?
06:20.54Xinhuanfeel free to checkout your cata branch now
06:21.00Xinhuanyes i used tortoise
06:21.03Galvinweird
06:21.07Xinhuansif i will use command line unless forced to
06:21.15Galvinwell I have no idea what I did wrong.
06:21.17ShefkiShould have just copied teh branches folder back from the one he deleted.
06:21.17Xinhuannow i'll remove myself from the author list
06:21.27Xinhuanlazy
06:21.29Xinhuan:)
06:21.54Galvinthanks for taking the time to do this.
06:22.44Xinhuantortoise can't selectively wipe saved passwords =.=
06:22.49Xinhuanapparently
06:23.57GalvinCheck out worked
06:24.16GalvinBut why it wouldn't let me branch/tag to existing branches/cataclysm folder I dont understand.
06:25.22Xinhuanit commit r11, you created /branches/Cataclysm
06:25.42Xinhuani'm not sure how you did it, but all you did in that commit was create the folder - nothing else
06:26.13GalvinWell I did a commit to send up my latest copy to trunk, then I tried to branch/tag trunk to branches/cataclysm.
06:26.39Xinhuandid you do that from your working copy or from teh repo browser?
06:26.53GalvinI used commit I dont use repo for that.
06:26.54Xinhuanand by working copy, i mean the one that references /trunk
06:27.10Galvinworking copy on my hard drived commited to the repository.
06:27.25Xinhuanyou probably selected something wrong
06:27.51GalvinThen I right clicked on my folder and picked branches/tag then it came up with a box to copy to/from.
06:28.13Xinhuanyeah the only thing you should change in that dialog box is the TO
06:28.29Xinhuanand a commit note, that's all
06:28.29GalvinSince the folder cataclysm didn't existed I clicked on the ... to create it.
06:28.38Xinhuanah don't do that
06:28.48Xinhuanthe branch/tag itself creates the folder
06:29.05Galvinyeah I went back and tried that by deleting cataclysm then branches.
06:29.07Xinhuanwhen you ... to create it, that's a separate commit - that creates a folder
06:29.25Xinhuanyes, but you deleted /branches as well as /branches/Cataclysm
06:29.39Xinhuanbranch/tag can't create 2 levels of folders at the same time
06:29.47Xinhuanso i basically recreated /branches
06:29.49Xinhuanthen branched it
06:30.00Galvinahh I se
06:30.03Galvin*see
06:30.30Galvinso now if i commit from the ptr copy it'll default to branches/cataclysm
06:30.41Xinhuanyes
06:30.47Xinhuanthe commit dialog should show you the url anyway
06:31.09Galvinthen in 4 weeks assuming 4.0 goes live a month before cata comes out I can make that my new copy hopefully without tearming my hair out :)
06:31.26Xinhuanthere's 2 ways to do that
06:31.28Galvinyeah it showed the to and from.
06:31.34Xinhuan1. you merge the branch into your trunk
06:32.16Xinhuan2. forget about the merge, just copy the ptr working copy files and overwrite your trunk working copy
06:32.17GalvinNot sure which is harder raiding or svn'ing :P
06:32.21Xinhuanthen commit the trunk :P
06:32.50GalvinI'll probably do 2, since I have no disire to maintain 2 copies at the same time.
06:33.29GalvinI'll make that commit i did tonight my final live beta for my 20 users i got so far :)
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06:34.33GalvinShould I add a curseforge link some place for when people download? or not needed.
06:34.39Xinhuanof course, there's always the 3rd method where you branch your trunk, then delete the trunk, then branch your branch to your trunk :P
06:34.52Xinhuanup to you
06:35.11GalvinI got it as plain text though since I have a hardtime with the other forums. hmm.
06:35.17Galvin*formayts
06:35.21Galvinand I can't spell.
06:36.19GalvinAnyway thanks again
06:37.12Xinhuani'm sure you'll figureit out
06:38.14Xinhuantime for me to watch Day9's Funday Monday #2 :P
06:42.12GalvinAnyone know why when i see r10 in tags it says revision 15 when the highest number is only 10?
06:42.52Xinhuanbecause the folder only contains stuff up to r10
06:43.11Galvinwhere does it get 15 from?
06:43.29Xinhuanprobably something you committed
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06:43.41GalvinWeird the cataclysm revision is 14
06:43.50Galvinbut the trunk is 10
06:44.02Xinhuanthat's because trunk hasn't been modified since r10
06:44.05Galvinso when you did the copyu magic you went from r10 to 14 :)
06:44.27Xinhuanok go to your repo browser
06:44.40Xinhuanand inside the repo browser, on the left tree view
06:44.46Xinhuanright click on the root folder
06:44.50Xinhuanand click SHOW LOG
06:44.58Xinhuani think that should make it obvious for you
06:45.23Xinhuanyou'll even see that at r11, you created a folder (without a copy from path), then at r12, you deleted /branches
06:45.40Galvinahh revision goes up after every action
06:46.13Xinhuanits pretty handy
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06:46.33Xinhuanif you SHOW LOG your main working copy though, it would obviously only show the log entries that pertain to /trunk
06:46.34Galvinyeah nifty
06:46.51Xinhuanso you can easily see what i did in r13 and r14
06:47.38Xinhuan(and for the most part, repos are public on wowace (by default) because it allows other ppl to help out, but private on curseforge)
06:48.08GalvinSo i'd be better off being moved to wowace then?
06:48.24Xinhuani'm no judge of that
06:48.32GalvinI dont mind people downloading my repo stuff.
06:48.48Xinhuandownloading your repo is public by default on both
06:48.56Xinhuanits modifying stuff that isn't, on CF
06:49.16GalvinYou can modify on wowace?
06:49.35Xinhuanyah everyone can
06:49.54Xinhuanso far for 2 years, it hasn't been an issue with potential vandalism
06:49.55Galvinthat never causes issues?
06:50.03profalbertexcept the few repos that are private on purpose
06:50.11Galvinso someone could go into ace3 and just wipe it out?
06:50.22Xinhuanace3 is protected and private ;p
06:50.41Xinhuanso nice try hehe
06:50.43Galvinhaha
06:50.52Xinhuanbut very few others are
06:51.15GalvinIm not sure if I like having my project open to modification by anyone. I'll have to think about that.
06:51.26profalbertbesides in svn you can't wipe out anything. You just could cause it to pack defect alphas
06:52.02Xinhuanfor the most part, the default setting of allowing anyone to modify - is in part due to translators
06:52.08Galvinhas the servers ever lost any svn data?
06:52.10Xinhuanbefore the new wowace localization system was setup
06:52.27Xinhuanyou needed translators to svn and commit translations
06:52.58Xinhuanand of course, if an addon got abandoned, someone else could easily temporarily update it to work
06:52.59GalvinWouldn't of it been more secure just to make a particular folder have write access?
06:53.23Xinhuanthe problem with that was the old wowace had everything in ONE HUGE SVN
06:53.35Xinhuanso there is only one /trunk across a few thousand addons
06:53.45Xinhuanyou want an addon, you basically created a /trunk/MyAddon/
06:54.00Xinhuanso its just one huge SVN for all 1000 addons
06:54.05stew-adays when libstub or ace were updated was fun :P
06:54.05Galvinsheesh
06:54.13Xinhuannot one SVN per addon as it is now
06:54.25Xinhuanbegin to see the problems now? hehe
06:54.38GalvinAnd do people respect not to modify someone elses code, I have enough trouble keeping track of what I do.
06:54.55Xinhuanyep generally its not an issue
06:55.02Xinhuanjust ask before modifying
06:55.10starlonas if everyone would do that
06:55.24GalvinIm just thinking if my addon get more exposure being on wowace instead of curseforge.
06:55.24starlonseveral times people made modifications to my addons without asking
06:55.32Galvinugh
06:55.47starlonthe modifications were fine with me once they were done for the most part, but it's the principle
06:56.12Galvinyeah I put a lot of work into my code and probably would be pissed if someone modified it without asking.
06:56.21stew-athats what svn is for
06:56.26Xinhuantsk tsk
06:56.29profalbertthat's what VCS is for
06:56.40Xinhuanthat's why we have a bot here in this channel that spams every commit
06:56.42Galvinvcs?
06:56.48stew-aversion control systems
06:56.55Xinhuanhalf of us actually watch this channel and if any rogue commits are made
06:57.00Xinhuanits usually reverted within minutes
06:57.11Galvinjust drop back to the last revision
06:57.32GalvinSo if I want to be moved to wowace what needs to be done on my end?
06:57.34starlonI'm happy with the state of things now.
06:57.37Xinhuan@ping Repo
06:57.37Repopong
06:57.58Xinhuan@kick
06:57.58RepoXinhuan: Error: You don't have the #wowace,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:58.06Xinhuanlol?
06:58.25Foxor@whoami
06:58.25RepoFoxor: I don't recognize you.
06:58.27Foxor:<
06:58.32Xinhuan@whoami
06:58.32RepoXinhuan: I don't recognize you.
06:58.34Galvin@whoami
06:58.34RepoGalvin: I don't recognize you.
06:58.45Galvinwe're strangers
06:58.45Xinhuanwell i have +v so meh :D
06:58.46starlon@iamstarlon
06:58.48Zhinjio@whoami
06:58.48RepoZhinjio: I don't recognize you.
06:58.51Zhinjioha
06:59.06Megalon@whoissheandwhydoesshenakedonthefloorpleasedon'tcallthepolicerepo
06:59.22GalvinAnyway if I get moved to wowace do my commits go to the same url path?
06:59.34Xinhuanno, you would need to relocate the address
06:59.48ShefkiActually I think you can use either address.
06:59.53Xinhuantypically using svn->relocate
07:00.16Xinhuanbut i suspect like what shirik says, either domain would probably redirect to the other
07:00.20Galvinbut www.curse.com still gets zips on tags?
07:00.26Xinhuanyep
07:00.49Xinhuanboth sites are running the same software - like literally the same software - not 2 parallel copies
07:01.27GalvinSo after moving I should do a checkout so commits go to the new address?
07:02.10Xinhuanthat would be ideal
07:02.22Xinhuanalthough i believe a svn->relocate address is sufficient
07:02.31stew-aXinhuan: did they give up on the whole addon author comptetitions idea btw?
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07:02.46Xinhuanauthor competitions?
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07:03.16ShefkiIt was used for Blizzcon tickets last year.
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07:03.28Xinhuanoh that
07:03.31Xinhuanwell i dont know
07:03.35Galvinblizzard looking for better coders?
07:03.48Shefkihttp://www.wowace.com/contests/
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07:04.19Xinhuansee, technically if you look at the Alphabet mathematics contest
07:04.29Xinhuanyou'll see there are "3 winners"
07:04.39Xinhuansince there are 3 contestants with 4 votes each lol
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07:05.05ShefkiXinhuan: You passed on the ticket.
07:05.12Galvinso do addson on wowace tend to get more exposure or doesn't matter?
07:05.16ShefkiThat's the only reason he didn't tag you as a winner.
07:05.24Xinhuanthat's correct lol
07:05.27Xinhuani passed on the ticket
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07:05.41Xinhuanbecause i didn't have the ability to pay the damn airfare
07:06.15Xinhuanwhich is around the 1.4k USD region for a round-trip
07:06.24Xinhuanand another i think 600 USD for accomodations
07:06.32ShefkiOhh I understand.  Not criticizing your decision.
07:06.44Xinhuani'm going this year though !
07:06.45XinhuanHAH
07:06.53ShefkiSo am I.
07:07.17GalvinIm going to watch it on the live feed
07:07.34Xinhuangoing to be an exciting dinner Shefki ^^
07:07.51Xinhuani'm surprised the dinner count is still like 40/42 or something
07:07.59Xinhuanits almost like nobody wants the last 2 spots
07:08.17ShefkiXinhuan: Probably hit about the limit of the people that are going and aware.
07:08.22ShefkiFirst year I went I didn't even know they did it.
07:08.41ShefkiFound out the night after it happened.
07:08.47Xinhuanthey cross-post on wowace/wowi every year
07:08.59ShefkiThey didn't cross post 3 years ago.
07:09.14Xinhuan:/
07:09.37ShefkiAnd I don't read the wowace forums.
07:09.41Shefkierrm wowi
07:09.53Xinhuani just lurk on wowi
07:10.00Xinhuanbut starting to be a bit more active
07:10.16ShefkiI look ocassionally over there, but forums are just not on my radar for time.
07:10.35ShefkiAnyway bed time.
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07:11.06GalvinSo is addon exposure better on wowace or curseforge?
07:11.18ShefkiGalvin: Doesn't matter.
07:11.41ShefkiThey are literally the same site with the difference of some policies and the skin.
07:11.59Xinhuani perfer wowace, but only because i started on it before CF even existed
07:12.16GalvinSo if I retire from wow who do I talk to let my addon be taken over by anyone?
07:12.35Xinhuanbasically you just go to the addon's management
07:12.39Xinhuanand mark it as abandoned
07:12.56Xinhuanand anyone else could just request to take over it
07:13.07Galvinahh
07:13.09Xinhuanwell, an admin would look at the request then
07:13.27ShefkiDepends on the license too.
07:13.29Xinhuanotherwise authors normally post "i'm quitting wow" posts everywhere and look for ppl to send them resumes
07:13.37Xinhuan(j/k about the resumes part)
07:13.41Galvini used a public domain licence since I had no idea what to use.
07:13.48Galvinhehe
07:14.18Xinhuanso
07:14.20Xinhuanhttp://atlasmod.com/
07:14.24Xinhuanthat would be a typical way
07:14.29Xinhuanfor an addon to "die"
07:14.43Xinhuanbut its also probably popular enough an addon that someone will take over it
07:14.56Galvinwell if one has a website
07:15.19Xinhuanyou see forum posts from time to time too
07:15.21Galvinnot sure how popular mine will be, some rogues in the guild replaced their addon with mine.
07:15.33Xinhuanwith "looking for ppl to take over" requests
07:16.25Galvinare theer any plans to merge wowace and curseforge into one site one day?
07:16.45Xinhuani don't think so
07:16.50Galvinjust seems weird having two sites so similiar.
07:17.06ShefkiThe difference is the community and the policies really.
07:17.31Xinhuanactually, 3 sites
07:17.38Shefkisc2mapster?
07:17.41Xinhuansc2mapster.com runs on the same software as well
07:17.47Xinhuanbut i don't have admin there
07:17.56Xinhuaneach site has its own permissions
07:18.22profalbertone could merge a wowace and curseforge project, right?
07:18.22Xinhuanhttp://kb.wowace.com/technology/
07:18.25Xinhuanhere read that heh
07:18.48Galvinbut to be moved only an admin can do that?
07:18.57Xinhuanyep
07:20.45Xinhuanactually, i think only a super-admin can do that ^_^
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07:21.18Galvinwhos a super?
07:21.50Xinhuananyone who's forum name is in red heheh
07:23.59Galvinso where do I go to request a move?
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07:27.51Xinhuani'll suggest one of bug them on irc, post on forums or use a PM
07:28.13GalvinJust need to know who to PM to
07:29.51Galvinoh for ace3 on ptr I need to download the alpha release?
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07:39.01Galvinwow awesome my mod doesn't throw an error on the ptr. but doubt it'll all work :)
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07:41.01GalvinElkano you going to have an update of your buffbars for cata any big changes? like a gui options menu perhaps? :)
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07:42.00evlCan any AH junkies recommend a mod to keep track of Sales/Buys/AH fees etc?
07:42.27Galvinauctioneer bt that addon is huge.
07:42.48GalvinI dont use it but I think it does those things and more.
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07:45.23evlI can't run auctioneer
07:45.27evlI'd work 30% slower
07:45.32evlevery scan every buy takes ages
07:45.43GalvinI use auctionator that may work for you its a lighweight addon.
07:45.48evlI'm still kinda confused as why they haven't worked together on a scanning library
07:45.57stew-ayou know you can scan the entire auction house in one go these days, right?
07:45.58evlSo each addon knows the age of the last full scan etc.
07:46.17evlyeah problem is they don't communicate or share data
07:46.31evlsay I scan the whole AH with auctioneer, now I still have to do a manual scan in QA3 summary
07:46.44evland maybe another manual scan in AuctionLite for bulk buying
07:47.27quiescensjust make something that hooks the thingy and then returns a cached thingy
07:47.35ElkanoGalvin, I'm working on a complete new version including a new gui, yeah... but I know me so I doubt it will make it for cata :( I also blame Blizzard for their changes to canceling auras...
07:48.01GalvinI can live without the addon for a while and just use powerauras
07:48.50Galvinwell cata got delayed unofficially to dec.
07:49.14Galvinaddon authors rejoice with more time :)
07:49.31Galvinplayers qq
07:49.43quiescensis it really delayed if there hasn't been a release date set?
07:49.59Galvinwell mmo champ was saying nov 2nd a few weeks ago and not its dec.
07:50.07Galvinbut no official date has been set
07:50.21Galvin*now
07:51.12Galvinanyone know if marsbehavior is going to get updated for cata, I dont even know who wrote it , but one thing I like about the mod is the way it does binds without interfering with binds from other stuff.
07:51.37GalvinI think it uses secure templates to do binds.
07:51.59Galvinused to be marsbar
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07:58.17Elkanowell, Galvin, the UI changes will happen with 4.x though which is pre-cata
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08:01.43Galvinyeah im expecting that will hit around 4 weeks before release.
08:02.32GalvinI always prepair for the next expansion by getting all my addons ready on the ptr, that way when we flip to 4.0 I dont spend a month messing around with addons.
08:02.49Galvinso I always get a headstart with this stuff.
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08:05.58evlI have an even more elegant solution
08:06.02evlDefault UI! :D
08:06.56Repo10experience-monitor (experimental): 03Handpartytowel * r4 Events.lua:
08:06.58Repoadded in some educated guessing at quest xp gains in party instances with no quest titles
08:07.01AeyanPfft, have you seen the memory and cpu usage on that sucker?
08:07.06AeyanI'd stay away from that author.
08:07.44Galvinwhat mod?
08:07.53AeyanDefault UI
08:08.17Galvinspeaking of the UI I like how blizzards own feedback throws an error since they wrote it.
08:08.17Repo10experience-monitor (experimental): 03Handpartytowel 04v 1.0 * r5 : Tagging as v 1.0
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09:03.02nev-mobileMorning
09:03.14Megalonhey Fisker
09:03.56nev-mobileAnyone on beta right now? I need some function return values
09:04.03Megalonwhich
09:04.31nev-mobilePut a spell on your cursor and dump GetCursorInfo
09:04.39Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r302 Modules/BlackBook.lua:
09:04.41RepoAdd nil checks to scanning for RealID friends because some people get errors.
09:05.08Megalon"spell", 24, "spell"
09:05.16nev-mobilesucks
09:05.38nev-mobileStill spellbook ids. :/
09:06.10Megalonyes :c
09:07.53nev-mobileStupid secure headers cant cast by spellbookid
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09:08.14nev-mobileAnd i cant convert from spellbookid to spellid
09:08.21nev-mobileMeh
09:12.26MegalonGetSpellBookItemInfo ?
09:12.44MegalonGetSpellBookItemInfo(select(2,GetCursorInfo()))
09:12.52Megalon"SPELL", 774
09:13.23Megalonjust guessed it takes the spellbookid
09:13.50Megalonand the spellid is right for reju
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09:21.14nev-mobileYes
09:21.17nev-mobileBut
09:21.32nev-mobileCant access it in the secure environment
09:22.30Megalonah :(
09:24.30nev-mobileAt least the function already exists
09:24.46nev-mobileSo chances of getting it in the secure env increased
09:24.59nev-mobile~seen iriel
09:25.05purliriel <~Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5h 57m 53s ago, saying: 'Or do they need to bow to the retailers?'.
09:39.35TentacledI may not be understanding all of secure environments' workings, but why the heck aren't ALL of Blizzard functions secure? It wouldn't hurt anyone, would it... it'd just keep stuff non-tainted when it's clean, and if it's already tainted then it wouldn't change it...
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11:02.12Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r85 IPopBar.lua:
11:02.14RepoNow that the latest build has secure SpellFlyout buttons (previous build was insecure), we can now securewrap them to hide our popbars! Unfortunately, if any spell flyout buttons are created in combat, we have to wrap them when combat ends.
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11:27.56Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r86 IPopBar.toc: Add Cataclysm compatibility, version to 3.09.
11:28.46Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan 04v3.09 * r87 : Tag release v3.09. Usable on both live and Cataclysm Beta.
11:37.36Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r88 / (2 files in 1 directory):
11:37.38RepoUpdate the readme.txt file and the commented version number. Not very important.
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12:00.49the-golemho ho ho
12:02.53Caleb|Xinhuan nevcairiel is the update for GatherMate in the works for cataclysm or any ETA on it?
12:03.05Xinhuangoogle for GatherMate2
12:03.26Caleb|thx
12:03.33Xinhuanit will handle nodes in instances, dungeon levels, zone map phasing, etc
12:03.53Xinhuanbut of course, requires a rewrite of the internal data structures
12:04.21Xinhuanit should also work with archaeology
12:04.45Xinhuanand umm, it'll probably not work in german because the latest patch renamed all the shit
12:05.14mitch0;)
12:07.26Bluspacecow>_<
12:07.32BluspacecowF'ing iTunes 10
12:07.43Bluspacecowi think it's modified every music file I've played in the last month
12:07.55Bluspacecowso now my monthly back up is copying all those songs
12:08.04kagarojust need someone to go in and verify all the german translation on node names
12:08.04Xinhuanmodify?
12:08.29Bluspacecowyeah my monthly backup of my music folder is based on date modified
12:09.08Xinhuangoogle and report back here why that's the case :)
12:09.11mitch0learn to md5, also man mtree :)
12:09.26Bluspacecowyeah yeah i need a better back up system i know :D
12:13.26Xinhuanok i got owned
12:13.42Xinhuani queued for coren with the "[RESTART in 8 MIN]"
12:13.49Xinhuaninstanec servers are already down
12:13.57Xinhuanso "Transfer to instance aborted"
12:14.02Xinhuanso i leave the party
12:14.06Xinhuanand get a 30 min deserter debuff!
12:14.09Xinhuan=/
12:23.35Bluspacecowjust found a whole box of manga i dont wtf im going to do with
12:24.16mitch0convert to heat
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13:34.47Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach 07cataclysm * r2818 / (2 files in 2 directories): added more gem ids
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14:05.57VonhintenHOME`so no official confirm/deny on the release date change?
14:06.11Repo10shield-frames: 03eyogar 07master * 49d3417 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added a few options and hopefully fixed byGroup sorting now
14:06.16Bluspacecownot really
14:06.19Bluspacecownever is.
14:06.30Bluspacecowwell maybe once in a blue moon
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14:08.53Kaelteng'morning
14:10.36VonhintenHOME`oh hai
14:10.49Bluspacecowhey kael
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14:11.33steeveh
14:13.38steevso much for rolling restarts eh?
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14:19.51Ackismorning Kaelten
14:20.10Bluspacecowhello there fish man
14:20.18Ackis:P
14:20.28AckisKaelten: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2459-cant-pull-externals-from-mercurial-repositories/ I don't know enough about hg to comment on that ticket
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14:23.44pompyhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26859191406/disappointed-about-the-dalaran-portal-change/
14:23.58pompy"To make up for this, we'd like to add class trainers and Auctioneers in  Shattrath and Dalaran for those leveling through The Burning Crusade and  Wrath of the Lich King content. "
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14:24.37mitch0they should add wandering battlemasters to villages / roads
14:25.32KaeltenHey guys, I've not made the official announcement yet
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14:25.50Kaeltenbut over the next few days I'm going to be working on moving the sites to new servers
14:26.25Kalrothwoop, with zero downtime of course?!
14:26.36Kaeltenhehe
14:26.44Kaeltenwell some services will have downtimes unfortunately
14:26.49Kaeltenbut I'll be working to mitigate those
14:27.06KalrothYeah, I know, I was just kidding :)
14:27.07Kaeltenthese servers are in different datacenters
14:27.16Kaeltenso I'll be fighting transfer speeds more than anything else
14:27.26mitch0kaelten: could my $500 order be processed prior to the move just in case? :)
14:27.39Kaeltenhehe, I don't control when those get's processed
14:27.46Kaeltenbut it won't be lost regardless :)
14:27.52Bluspacecowwhy the move kaelten
14:27.56Bluspacecowjust curious :)
14:28.02mitch0I'll take a screenshot just in case ;)
14:28.12Kaeltenwe're changing datacenters
14:28.13Ackiswaits for shit to blow up.
14:28.28Kaeltenso we have all new (much better) servers waiting for us in the new DC
14:29.52Kaelten~lart Ackis
14:29.52purlcuts off Ackis's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper
14:30.01Kaeltenfine I'll take my dual hex-cores and go home
14:31.51Ackisno matter where the server is, something is gonna blow up
14:32.17Kaeltenmeh, fair enough :(
14:32.22Kaeltenthere likely will be some hicups
14:32.32Kaeltenhopefully not too many
14:32.51Bluspacecownice
14:32.54AckisI get a root canal done next week Kaelten
14:33.16nevcairielKaelten: can has updated svn on repo server now?
14:33.26Kaeltenjust remember for every time you taunt me the dentist will trill your cheek
14:33.29Kaeltennevcairiel: yes
14:33.38nevcairielhooray
14:33.54KalrothCurse had to upgrade their 286 when they grabbeed mmoc
14:33.57Kalrothgrabbed*
14:34.50Kaeltenlol
14:34.51Ackisyou're on a 286? I didn't think you upgraded to an 8086 yet from the 8088
14:35.15Kaeltennew servers are 2.9 Ghz dual hex cores with 12GB of ram (for the webs)
14:35.23Kaeltenmuch better than what we're on currently
14:35.45KalrothNow with 8 hamsters!
14:36.12nevcairieltransfering those gazillion of files from wowace and cf should be fun
14:36.27Ackisnevcairiel: don't worry, half of them will be lost in the transition ;)
14:36.38ZhinjioHere's my weekly quick spam to see if anyone is interested in participating in my for-fun fantasy hockey league this year. Low pressure, low time commitment, NO money commitment, and lots of fun. Winner gets bragging rights for a year. PM me on here with an email address to send the invite to. And now back to your regularly scheduled channel.
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14:36.56nevcairielAckis: in theory you could let the packager rebuild them :d
14:37.08Blu|Sleepin theory that is
14:37.16Blu|Sleepif it doesn't fall over in the middle of doing it
14:37.28steevZhinjio: Red Wings are going all the way.
14:37.29Kaeltennevcairiel: that's scary
14:37.37Kaeltenand no, I won't be loosing any files :P
14:37.41Zhinjiosteev: think so?
14:37.46krka_no wai, Djurgården IF all the way
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14:38.01krka_wait, which league are we talking about here?
14:38.19AckisKaelten: I didn't say it'd be you... you forgot about the gnomes
14:38.30krka_i hate it when my files get loose
14:38.33steevZhinjio: no, but i'm a detroit boy, gotta stay true to the team
14:38.42krka_almost as bad as when i lose files!
14:38.50krka_NFL?
14:38.54krka_err
14:38.54steevno.
14:38.54krka_NHL
14:38.57steevyes.
14:39.00krka_typo!
14:39.02krka_i swear
14:39.45krka_funny how NHL was the default league when it wasn't mentioned :)
14:39.47Zhinjiosteev: yeah, thats true. I've got high hopes for Colorado, but I think its goign to be a rebuilding year
14:40.08ZhinjioAckis: poke.
14:40.17steevkrka_: he said "fantasy hockey league"
14:40.22ZhinjioAckis: you know you wanna.
14:40.44krka_fantasy hockey league could apply to any hockey league though
14:40.59Zhinjiotrue, and especially with as many international people as we have here
14:41.16Zhinjiocould have been a european league or something regional just as easily
14:41.19AckisZhinjio: I'm thinking about it :P
14:41.21krka_what does international people mean?
14:41.27krka_i for one am quite national
14:41.41krka_or does international = not american?
14:41.57Zhinjioindeed, forgive my amerocentrism
14:42.12Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2820 / (5 files in 5 directories): - Blue lvl 85 PvP sets
14:42.14Repo- Lvl 60 PvP sets
14:42.15steevkrka_: anything non-american = non-existant :P
14:42.16Repo- started currency changes
14:42.20krka_here be dragons?
14:42.28steevdragons and hotties
14:42.32pompyim guessing Mapster's FogClear doesnt work on the beta? heh
14:43.03krka_i thought this was a joke :( http://www.ilmatar.net/~np/hate/america.gif
14:44.11steevnope
14:44.24Blu|Sleepguess im in the something else section
14:44.37steevyou irc in your sleep too
14:44.57Blu|Sleepwell i still need to clear off some stuff off my bed
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14:45.19nevcairielpompy: i need to gather the data, but its been changing so much, i didnt bother yet
14:45.38Blu|Sleepremembered i wanted to make a post about partitioning my new computer
14:46.52Repo10libactionbutton-1-0 (experimental): 03Nevcairiel 07master * a8b3631 LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Big implementation push, containing pre-lim spell button, drag'n'drop of spells (partially working), and alot of refactoring.
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14:48.12nevcairielnot a bad result for drycoding at work today :p
14:48.40Blu|Sleepheh
14:49.05Blu|Sleepi can still remember arguing with some guy who was saying that addon authors don't dry code
14:49.07Blu|Sleep>_>
14:49.08steevonwards toward loremaster
14:49.22steevthats like saying people don't dry hump
14:49.32SunTsuBlu|Sleep: Did you introduce him to Ackis?
14:49.38Blu|Sleepheheh
14:49.38Blu|Sleepno
14:49.45nevcairielBlu|Sleep: what else can we do when we're at work
14:49.51Blu|Sleepfap ?
14:50.00nevcairielwell, beides that
14:50.03nevcairiel*besides
14:50.15SunTsunevcairiel: Use your own pri äh nevermind ;)
14:50.20Kaeltenso ya, at some point repo access is going to go down
14:50.23Kaeltenand then come back up sometime later
14:50.30Kaeltengoing to make an announcement when I get to that point though
14:50.32Blu|Sleepheh i work an overnight shift
14:50.38nevcairielSunTsu: when dealing with events and stuff, i dont trust those
14:50.40Blu|Sleeptheres no one there to say no to me
14:52.06SunTsunevcairiel: just kidding, I'd never seriously advise to use one, and I sure know that people are sensitive when it comes to private servers
14:52.29pompynevcairiel: ahh kk makes sense :)
14:52.47Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7554 Northrend (2 files in 2 directories):
14:52.49RepoNorthrend/Koralon: Remove trash fist IDs, as it may trigger OnEngage(). Bring back fist duration for healing purposes.
14:53.04Blu|Sleepproblem with private servers is sometimes they are not at the latest build on live
14:54.24Kaeltennevcairiel: new servers run 1.6.6
14:56.12Blu|Sleep@suntsu sensitive cause you can't guarantee what build is running on their... IMHO it's like tossing your adddon into a barrel with a piranha , a kitty and a sub machine gun.... like russian roulette
14:56.13nevcairielwell, there is 1.6.12 .. but at least we get the new merge and speed things of the 1.6 series :p
14:56.24nevcairielassuming you convert the repositories too
14:56.43nevcairielwhat did we have before? 1.3?
14:58.00Fiskeromg i came
14:58.57Fiskernevcairiel
14:59.01Fiskershould i get 24GB of memory?
14:59.25nevcairielsure, your wasted money boosts our economy
14:59.35Fiskeroh u
14:59.43Fisker4GB memory is pretty cheap now
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15:02.29hasteI have 6G of memory
15:02.29Fiskerhey ckknight
15:02.36hasteright now I use 1.5G
15:02.40ckknighthey Fisker
15:02.40hasteand 1G of that is minecraft
15:02.47hastethe rest is pretty much firefox
15:02.50Fiskeryour system must suck then
15:02.57Fiskersounds like Linux
15:02.57Fiskerbam!
15:03.01haste:3
15:03.03nevcairielI have 8, and its plenty. For tripple channel i would go 12, i guess, but never 24
15:03.03Fisker:3
15:03.11Fiskerok nevcairiel
15:03.14Fiskeri'll hold you to it
15:03.15FiskerFOREVER
15:03.45hastein the world of Fisker, everthing is STATIC!
15:04.32evlnevcairiel: what economy
15:04.44Fiskerhey haste
15:04.59Fiskereven though Bill Gates didn't even say what was claimed you still hung on to "640k"
15:05.17Fiskerso your world is bizarro and static at the same time!
15:05.32hasteconfusing Fisker is confusing
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15:05.48nevcairielnext hing i'm getting is a SSD from my christmas bonus or something
15:05.49hasteFisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsoAfQcZeM have a youtube of my awesome phone!
15:05.56nevcairielafter that wait for the next generation of anything
15:06.03Brunersnevcairiel: what SSD have you planned on?
15:06.06Fisker^^ nevcairiel
15:06.19hasteintel!
15:06.30nevcairielwaiting for intels release, then compare
15:06.50Fiskerthey're gonna be released pretty soon i think
15:06.57Blu|Sleeptime to go pass out
15:07.06Fiskerthey updated their toolset like a month ago and it had 600GB SSD's in it :P
15:07.32nevcairielthere were images of their plans
15:07.40BrunersIntel? arent they way behind now?
15:07.46Fiskerthey are
15:07.56Fiskerbut at IDF they showcased 25nm SSD's with Sandforce
15:08.05Fiskerintel that is
15:08.05SunTsuA friend of mine hat fun with his two SSDs, he put them into a RAID0 - after some weeks without reboot he was down to a transfer rate of 3MB/s - read and write
15:08.16Fiskerpeople think Intel may be using Sandforce for the 3rd generation
15:08.35SunTsus/hat/had/
15:08.37FiskerHe needs to run TRIM SunTsu
15:08.50Brunersthe C300 (marvel controller) seems to be the best at the moment
15:08.58SunTsuFisker: Yeah, that was what I found out too, when he asked me what was going wrong
15:09.12nevcairielIntels now .. 2? 3? year old SSD is still pretty good, but they haven't released anything for quite a while. When they do, i'm sure it'll be good again
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15:09.50BrunersI'll stick with my Raptor untill SSD's gets cheaper
15:10.17Parnic|Workthe crucial RealSSD is the top of the line at the moment. i own an OCZ Vertex 2 and it is awesome
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15:11.17nevcairielIf anything, the intel release will add more contestants to the market, and possibly lowering the price
15:12.21Fiskerwell it costs about half the current price to make an ssd with the new chips
15:12.32Fiskerso likely it'll be sub-$1 pr. GB
15:14.21Aikarwhat bout the new hybrids, they seem interesting
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15:28.14VonhintenHOME`Adding DRAM to the SSD's apparently has made writes super fast at little cost on reads... not sure why it took them this long to figure that out... they seemed to have been stuck in the "SSD's need to be cache-less commit"
15:29.36VonhintenHOME`I just ordered a hybrid Momentus XT 500GB for my work machine... work won't spring for SSD at the moment, so I'm hoping I can just start building code on that drive and let it figure out to optimize the common files in the 4GB flash
15:29.42VonhintenHOME`give it SSD speed without the price tag
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15:35.41VonhintenHOME`hmm, so, remoted desktop into work, running a VPC VM of windows 7...
15:36.07VonhintenHOME`the VM isn't aware that I'm in a remote desktop session, so it's not optimizing itself... how to
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15:52.05Repo93f374c: Refactor state changing logic, update handler is now directly called from the restricted env scripts instead of channeld through OnAttributeChanged.
15:52.06Repo56b2700: Fix spell API mappings for differences in SpellID and SpellBookID.
15:57.30Kaeltennevcairiel: the new database server has 96GB
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15:59.17nevcairielservers don't count =P
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15:59.43nevcairiellua> ("type-2"):match("^type-(%d+)$")
15:59.43lua_botnevcairiel: nil
15:59.59nevcairiellua> ("type-2"):match("^type%-(%d+)$")
15:59.59lua_botnevcairiel: 2
16:03.30TNSelua> 2+3
16:03.30lua_botTNSe: 5
16:03.34TNSeWOW OMG AMAZING
16:04.12TNSeI  clearly learnt lua via irc
16:04.17steevcaps lock is cruise control for cool
16:04.41TNSeI really should learn lua properly
16:04.45TNSeciv5 uses it too <_<
16:05.07TNSebut .. brazilian :/
16:08.14Repo10absorbsmon: 03eyogar 07master * beta4-1-ga89e9c4 core/AbsorbsMonitor-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed event name, causing no UnitUpdated message to be received
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16:09.37Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2821 / (2 files in 2 directories): starting playing around with loottable for Atlas :)
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16:10.36VonhintenHOME`ok, I'm remote desktop into work machine from home, work machine is running a VM, and I'm remote desktop into that VM from home too... that's cool
16:10.43nevcairielwhat does brazilian have to do with anything?
16:10.58arkanesbrazilains can't learn lua
16:11.04arkanesobv
16:13.39Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r619 .pkgmeta:
16:13.41Repo- evidently i neglected to add acelocale to pkgmeta back in r615 when localization came online. oops.
16:15.29Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2822 / (9 files in 3 directories): - New AtlasLoot Panel :)
16:15.31Repo- some fixes
16:15.32Repo- Wishlist start
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16:32.00Repo10shield-frames: 03eyogar 07master * 411d6e3 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
16:32.02Repo411d6e3: Changed LibStub, CallbackHandler repository again, we don't want testing scripts
16:32.03Repob4cdd80: Removed some debug code
16:32.04Repo4c21d00: Fixed variable max to be local, not global (doh!)
16:32.05Repo7c7acbc: Added support for area effects and improved infinite amount handling
16:34.51Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.4.2b1 * r633 : Tagging as 3.4.2b1
16:41.27TorhalXinhuan: BTW - forum admins do not directly translate to wowace proper...my name is in green on the forums, and I can move projects between sites.
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16:43.44sylvanaar_atworkhow do you get +v in #wowace, who do i need to sleep with
16:43.52sylvanaar_atworklol
16:44.20Torhalsylvanaar_work: Kaelten, but he's shy.
16:44.24durcynbecause it's moderated so often
16:44.24sylvanaar_workhehe
16:45.28sylvanaar_workkicks durcyn
16:45.39sylvanaar_worklol j/k
16:45.42durcynrude
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16:47.23sylvanaar_worklol nice
16:50.19Repo10libalts-1-0: 03talryn1 * r33 LibAlts-1.0.lua:
16:50.21RepoStoring values in title case.  Added constants for guild and addon source prefixes.
16:53.32Aikari just read a post saying dal and shattarah ports being removed in cata, as in mage ports?
16:54.05durcynno, as in the portals from shattrath and dalaran to other cities
16:54.36Aikaroh wow really?
16:55.02Aikari hope they are adding an AH to those cities then O.o
16:55.03pompyAikar: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26859191406/disappointed-about-the-dalaran-portal-change/
16:56.55Aikarok yeah blue post says they mmight, thatll be fine then
16:57.11Aikarmages prolly gonna get alot more business
16:57.31pentium166until you have to get to the south end of kalimdor and 20 minutes getting there
16:58.14arkanesflying down to aq always sucked
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16:59.17pentium166don't suppose there are any boat routes to gadgetzan in cataclysm
16:59.43arkanestheres a boat out the bay, but I think its a lie and just goes around in circles
17:00.10quiescensonce you're aboard you're stuck there forever
17:00.43VonhintenHOME`lol, buyers remorse about the kirin tor ring... that's original...
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17:09.49Lysitheaheh
17:09.59LysitheaI actually bought the ring since they removed the portals
17:10.06sylvanaar_workheh
17:10.09Lysitheanow I'll just teleport to dalaran
17:10.10Lysitheatrain
17:10.13Lysitheahs back to quest hub
17:10.54Lysithea(+10 achievement points, stupid achievements :/)
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17:11.30Axodiousanyone got a ptr character?
17:11.38nevcairielYou know, being  a druid is nice. At lvl 10 we get an ability to teleport to our trainer, no need to buy that f'ing expensive ring =P
17:12.08Lysithea:)
17:12.22Lysitheayeah, I went on a shopping spree yesterday
17:12.28Axodiouscan you use flying mounts as land mounts on the ptr atm?
17:12.30Lysitheagot the mammoth to sell stuff when lvling too
17:12.32Axodioussimilar to the beta?
17:12.49Lysitheaand a bunch of other stuff
17:12.55Lysithea16000+1600+600+6800+8000+800+1600+12500 spent yesterday :<
17:13.18LysitheaAxodious flying worked as groundmounts before they reset the ptr
17:13.21Lysithea~2weeks ago
17:13.27Lysitheain org atleast
17:13.41Axodiousjust figured it out
17:13.50Axodiousflying mounts in old world arent 4.0
17:13.51Axodiousit's cata
17:14.08SunTsuLysithea: you spent more gold yesterday than I ever possessed
17:14.22Axodiousi'm thinking of buying the blazing hyppo
17:14.25Axodious80k ~_~
17:14.37Lysitheaplayed the ah game for 3weeks early wotlk
17:14.42Lysitheagot me ~150k
17:14.46Lysitheathen I just stopped
17:14.52Lysitheagold kinda lost it's value
17:15.31Lysitheaif you know what you're doing and when to do it (early wotlk for me) you get insane gold/hour
17:15.44Lysitheathink I had about 5k gold per hour spent on ah back then
17:16.03Lysitheanever underestimate the stupidity of the general population
17:16.05Lysitheaespecially in wow
17:16.35arkanesAxodious: prior to the last patch you could still mount your flyer, just wouldn't fly, but they fixed it in the last patch
17:16.48Nivreally?
17:16.48Nivlame
17:16.52NivI was hoping that was a feature
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17:17.06nevcairielduring launch you could make awesome money by simply collecting herbs (assuming you leveld a bit faster then the big masses), didnt even have to try to trick people on the AH
17:17.10Lysitheawhen do you get flying in cata btw
17:17.12Lysitheafor the old world
17:17.15arkanes60
17:17.24Lysitheaoh, so you can fly straight away?
17:17.27arkanesyeah
17:17.31Lysitheanice
17:17.42arkanesits an additional price over regular flying though
17:17.45nevcairieljust have to buy it :p
17:17.50nevcairielbut its only 250 ors o
17:17.51Nivnevcairiel: herbs/ore seem to make decent gold at every xpac launch
17:18.02Nivfor the first few weeks
17:18.14nevcairielindeed
17:18.19Lysitheaeveryone's powerlvling and crafting their stuff
17:18.24Nivyep
17:18.26arkaneslotta competition for nodes, though
17:18.27nevcairielafter that, herbalism is screwed for making money, though
17:18.30LysitheaI'll be one of those people this time around
17:18.34Lysitheadropped mining for jc
17:18.45Lysitheajc/engi is gonna cost a ton to skill up
17:18.56Lysitheafrom ah :<
17:18.56nevcairielMany people have the gather skills on their alts
17:19.00nevcairielwhich takes longer to get them up to max
17:19.14LysitheaI got an hunter with mining/Herb
17:19.29Lysitheabut can a 80 safely gather stuff in cata?
17:19.32Lysitheain those areas
17:19.49NivI dropped JC for engineering
17:19.52Nivso eng/blacksmith
17:19.53Nivwhee
17:20.27Lysitheagonna get my jc up first
17:20.34Lysitheajc can be huge income at the start
17:20.58Nivyep
17:21.02Nivbut it's so boring
17:21.02nevcairielI still wonder how scribes are going to make their money
17:21.05arkanestheres some nice trinkets this time around too
17:21.08nevcairielnow that everyone buys the glyphs once
17:21.11nevcairieland never again
17:21.13Nivnevcairiel: charity
17:21.28arkanesthey've got some pretty nice new recipies
17:21.34arkanesprobably nothing that will make money, though
17:22.33nevcairieli dont think scribes made that much money to begin with, tbh
17:22.55arkanesthey might take the dissapearing dust off of vendors
17:23.07arkaneswhich would create some moderate, low level demand
17:23.12nebula169every scribe i know that actually AH'd glyphs is gold capped on atleast one char
17:23.37nevcairielcoincedence, probably
17:23.50koaschtenhrrrhrr i got a druid with mining herbalism :X
17:23.59nevcairieldruid with herbalism is awesome though
17:24.01nebula169not really, production cost is so low, and the glyphs sell for 100g+
17:24.07nevcairieldon't have to deshift from flying form
17:24.12nevcairieldunno if that works for mining as well
17:24.15koaschtendidnt they change that?
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17:24.17arkanesnot on my server they don't
17:24.17koaschtenon beta?
17:24.22arkanesdoesn't work for mining since a while
17:24.34nevcairielnebula169: i never paid that much for a glyph, your server is broken
17:24.36arkanesI haven't checked herbalism on the beta
17:24.51nevcairielthey did? oh well, time to change profession then :p
17:24.58nebula169our economy is trash, for sure
17:25.21nebula169but its silly, stacks of herbs are like 5-10g each, and the glyphs sell for a shit tonne
17:25.35arkaneson my server most glyphs are 5g max
17:25.38koaschtenso, why dont you buy herbs and go to a guild mate?
17:25.43arkanessome of the less common minors might get up to 25
17:26.11nebula169koaschten: i've never paid for a glyph :p
17:26.16koaschteni don't get people QQ'n about crafted items when resources are cheap
17:28.45GalvinLooks like I wont be using shattrath or dalaran for my hearth in cataclysm, all portals were taken out. didn't think they would do that.
17:29.27nevcairielthe reasoning is quite obvious
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17:29.51nevcairielThey want to get people back to the old citys
17:29.58Galvindoesn't bother me was just surprised.
17:35.01nebula169wish they could do something with shatt, its such a big ghost town ;[
17:35.23nebula169have the birdmans attack it and take over some it, or such
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17:39.49p3limI installed something on ubuntu, though how can I uninstall it? I can't find it in the ubuntu software center nor in terminal through apt-get
17:40.06AeyanOh, hey nev, is that you? -> http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=156191
17:40.19AeyanStumbled across it while looking up a question I had
17:40.22nevcairielmy name is unique
17:40.25quiescenshow did you install it if you can't find it anywhere
17:40.36AeyanSuppose so
17:41.42AeyanDon't suppose you know when libavformat MIGHT get support for linked mkv files, huh? =P
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17:41.51p3limthrough terminal
17:41.52nevcairielprobably never
17:41.55nevcairieli dunno
17:41.57AeyanBleh
17:42.01nevcairielthe ffmpeg guys are all weird
17:42.03AeyanWell, thanks anyway
17:42.06p3limwas just testing this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/login-to-ubuntu-using-your-face/
17:42.20p3limthough it doesnt work (it bugs), so I'd like to remove it
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17:45.21p3limcan't find it with dpkg --list
17:45.39pentium166if you built it manually, the package manager probably won't help you
17:45.41Brunersp3lim: you built it from source? go into the directory you built it an make uninstall
17:46.00steevp3lim: yeah, sudo make uninstall
17:46.14p3limah ok
17:46.16p3limthanks
17:48.19p3limmake: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'. Stop
17:48.52Brunersp3lim: check the README or something
17:49.31nebula169But I have fixed it in the current svn build. Version 0.4 will have the make uninstall target :)
17:49.34nebula169lol oops
17:49.45SunTsup3lim: you can always do "make -n install > file", and remove all the files that get installed via shell
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17:54.55p3limI can't find it, I though etc/pam.d was the right dir
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17:58.44Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik 07cataclysm * r2823 Locales/constants.de.lua: deDE update
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18:06.53Repo10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r58 Core.lua:
18:06.55RepoFix error (in Cata?) where the item link sometimes is not available.
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18:35.34p3limwhat is "terminal bell"?
18:37.34Megalonlol, mekkatorque is full :x
18:37.38SunTsup3lim: what would you think with that name?
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18:43.37Gnarfozp3lim: the bell is what rings (or otherwise indicates, there are visual bells, too) when you try to do something and the terminal objects. for example, pressing backspace when you are already at the beginning of the line, trying to tabcomplete when the shell doesn't know any more possible completions, etc
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18:49.03nevcairiel~seen tuller
18:49.07purltuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 36m 17s ago, saying: 'i've purposefully forced myself to not look at the sc2 editor'.
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18:56.56Galvinlooking thru playerframe.lua for cataclysm and I find this function called: DeathKnniggetThrobFunction
18:57.13Galvinblizzard sense of humor
18:57.59nevcairielthere are some of these all over the code
18:58.03nevcairielits brilliant
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19:00.07Galvinfor unitpowertype function is it better to use the string for the powertype or the number? so 'MANA' instead of 0.
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19:04.59nevcairielstrings are easier to read in code, and less likely to change in meaning
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19:05.42Galvinok thanks
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19:13.36EthanCentauraiAckis: ping
19:14.21AckisEthanCentaurai: pong
19:14.23Ackisding dong
19:14.27Ackisthe witch is dead
19:14.46EthanCentauraiyou wanted to see me? :)
19:15.10Ackisyeah what were you saying about your TA account being deleted?
19:15.37EthanCentauraiI wasn't able to re-register
19:15.55Ackisyou already have an account though
19:15.56EthanCentauraiit couldn't make up it's mind if my tag was registered or not
19:16.36EthanCentaurairegister.aspx says I already exist, but registerexisting.aspx says I don't :p
19:16.46Ackiswas this before or after the crash?
19:16.50EthanCentauraiafter
19:17.03Ackiswhat happens if you just try to log in?
19:17.16EthanCentauraiit says I don't exist and asks me to register
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19:18.06Ackiswant me to make a post for you?
19:18.15Ackisaka fix this dudes account it's teh broked
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19:18.23EthanCentauraiI messaged TA himself and he said he's on it
19:18.37Ackisah kk
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19:56.22Repo79b76cb: Implemented event handling.
19:56.23Repo8d894be: Add PostClick frame script.
19:56.25Repo0796d52: Implemented tooltips
19:56.26Repo80ec687: Pass the state along with the button information on ButtonContentsChanged
19:56.54EthanCentauraiAckis: TA account is fixed and back up! Woohoo! :)
19:57.45Repo10libactionbutton-1-0 (experimental): 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1ec9e5c LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Remove most debug prints
19:57.55Repo10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r39 CharacterNotes.lua: New method for formatting names.  Added DB check utility.
19:58.23Repo10libactionbutton-1-0 (experimental): 03Nevcairiel 040.0-preview * 95feb85 /: [new tag] Tag first development snapshot
19:59.44AckisEthanCentaurai: wewt
20:01.54TalrynWhat's TA?
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20:03.55EthanCentauraiTrueAchievments.com
20:04.12EthanCentauraixbox 360 achievement tracker and solution finder
20:04.27TalrynAh, ok.
20:06.16EthanCentauraiand now I shall make some coffee
20:06.20EthanCentauraiback in 5 minutes
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20:32.09Stanzillayay got my shadowmourne :)
20:33.37Megalonhf while it lasts
20:33.59Stanzillait's my alt
20:34.06Stanzillaso just happy to have it :p
20:34.16Stanzillaand the other goodies for my mainchar
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20:37.51nevcairielwhats with people and posting comments on your user page asking for addon support
20:37.57nevcairielthey can't even find the addon page now, or what
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20:44.11Nivshit, I might end up with a shadowmourne at the rate cata is coming
20:44.28NivI let our DK tank take #4
20:44.34NivI'll grab #5
20:45.18Nivand we had pretty bad luck with drops on our first 2
20:45.42Repo10libactionbutton-1-0 (experimental): 03Nevcairiel 07master * 0.0-preview-3-ge9b8b08 LibActionButton-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fix button updating after drag'n'drop.
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21:11.09rljohnis there a page or forum post anywhere listing some of the new API calls
21:12.06Tentacledsome are on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000
21:12.13Tentacledbut it's nowhere near complete
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21:12.54Tentacledas stuff changes from build to build, including API.
21:13.01rljohnis there a way to manually examine calls
21:13.17rljohnfor example, UnitDebuff isn't working, I assume its either gone or has new parameters
21:14.43p3limhm, how do I set the DISPLAY env variable in ubuntu?
21:14.52p3limI don't have setenv it seems
21:15.18arkanesrljohn: UnitBuff and UnitDebuff are replaced by UnitAura
21:15.27rljohnokay, thanks
21:15.35arkanesp3lim: depends on your shell
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21:16.04arkanesp3lim: since you're probably using bash, you'd add export DISPLAY= to your .bashrc, but thats a tremendously bad idea unless you know exactly what you're doing
21:16.59arkanesif you're looking for a one-of thing to pass evnironment to a process, you would do DISPLAY=:1 foo
21:17.07Nivp3lim: export DISPLAY=:0.0
21:17.09Nivon command line
21:17.18Nivbut if it's not setup, something is wrong generally :)
21:17.20p3limthanks Niv
21:17.21arkanesor explort DISPLAY=:1 to set it persistently in that session
21:17.27p3limits for setup
21:19.08p3limtrying to get wmii running
21:20.49p3limwmii: fatal: Can't open display
21:20.52p3lim:/
21:21.02arkanesdo you have a second display for it to connect to?
21:21.06p3limno
21:21.09arkaneswell
21:21.10p3limive set the display to 1
21:21.22arkanesdo you know what that actually does?
21:21.34p3limwhat?
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21:21.53arkanesthat would tell wmii to run by connecting to the xserver running at :1
21:22.06arkanesif you don't have one, and you wouldn't unless you went to some trouble to set one up, it won't work
21:22.15Nivp3lim: how are you logged into the box. Locally? ssh?
21:22.35p3limdont kno
21:22.39Niv......
21:22.45p3limi started using linux yesterday lol
21:22.46Nivyou don't know how you got a command prompt?
21:22.59arkanesare you trying to check out wmii, or do you already know you want to use it and are trying to replace the regular wm with it?
21:23.09p3limreplacing
21:23.23arkanesso you already know what wmii is and how to run it, I assume?
21:23.37p3limyeah I've tried it before, but never installed it
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21:24.25arkanesp3lim: go to administration->Login Screen
21:25.02arkanesp3lim: assuming that you installed wmii correctly via its packaged and didn't try to cowboy it, it'll show up in the default session drop down
21:25.21p3limnot there :/
21:25.29arkanessystem->administration->Login Screen, that is
21:25.32arkaneshow did you install wmii?
21:25.34p3limyes
21:25.45p3limmake and make install, followed the readme
21:25.49arkanessigh
21:25.58Nivhaha
21:26.07arkanesunless you have a very good reason and know exactly what you're doing, use the packages
21:26.10arkanesthats what they're for
21:26.11Nivin general, don't build things from source unless you need to
21:26.13arkanesapt-get install wmii
21:26.49p3limdid not know of those :o
21:26.58p3limneat
21:27.15arkanesapt-get install is the command line back end for tools like software center and synaptic
21:27.27p3limok
21:27.37p3limhow does it get the files though?
21:28.05Megalonmagic
21:28.06arkanesit downloads from from the ubuntu repositories
21:28.16p3limmajik, ok
21:28.41p3limdont mock tho, I'm very new at this :p
21:28.49arkanesone of the things that ubuntu does that makes it a distro and not linux from scratch is that it maintains and hosts a large set of packages
21:29.20arkanesoh hooray suckless.org
21:30.12p3limthanks for the help :)
21:30.22Slaymanyour welcome
21:30.39Slaymans/your/you're/
21:30.55p3limguessing I will need to reboot/restart session for it to run
21:31.45Slaymanusually not apt-get'll install it and it should work right off the bat
21:31.48vhaarrp3lim: you should never ever have to compile anything by hand like that again
21:32.04p3limok :)
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21:32.14vhaarrp3lim: always use synaptic, and if you can't find it there, then it will be in some Personal Package Archive on Launchpad.net
21:32.16p3limmost places I've read it was done like that so
21:32.24arkanesp3lim: you'll need to relogin yeah
21:32.36arkanesit seems that wmii doesn't support a replace argument
21:32.46arkanesno doubt because it's so "elegant" and "minimal" and "sucks less"
21:33.18p3limlooks slick atleast :)
21:33.26vhaarryou can get themes for gdm
21:33.48vhaarroh, it's a window manager
21:34.47vhaarrp3lim: dude, http://wmii.suckless.org/#Ubuntu
21:35.21vhaarrthat wasn't hard to find :P
21:35.51p3limok I didnt read that far down :p
21:36.32vhaarrwell now you know, EVERYTHING you would /ever/ want to install, you can find as a package
21:37.17p3lim:)
21:37.26p3limreading up more on wmii now
21:37.27vhaarronce you start installing things manually like that, you might as well be using windows
21:38.27vhaarryou should do a make uninstall on it
21:38.32vhaarrbefore installing the package
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21:49.38p3limI'm most likely gonna toy around for a while, then re-install ubuntu
21:49.53p3limI will fuck up alot of things, thats for sure
21:58.17koaschtenHOLY WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94
22:00.45Megalonw t f
22:01.17Nivp3lim: VMware + snaptshots makes that less painful for learning ;)
22:02.50Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r23 LibSVG-1.0.lua:
22:02.52RepoAdded [image]:SetDetail(level, fill) for making fast renders with lowered quality an optional color fill.
22:06.20TentacledJust wondering... why would one need something as complicated as vector graphics rendered in WoW..? Graphs, perhaps, but those just look better when they're simpler...
22:06.42Nivscaling?
22:07.34Humbedoohbecause you can't send regular images to each other through WoW :)
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22:08.52Humbedoohif I wanna share a tactical map of some boss' lair with another person in a raid, it's faster to just send an SVG image that he/she can tear off and stick on his screen than either having to upload it somewhere and sending the URL or having everyone download the image and reloading their interface
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22:17.38Tentacledokay, tactics is good. Especially if you combine it with the new dungeon maps, zooming them painfully.
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22:18.40winkwell, writing to svg sounds trivial
22:18.49winkparsing svg and displaying it ingame... not so much
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22:28.25Humbedoohit's not an easy task no :)
22:28.43Humbedoohbut I like to think it's going well
22:34.25TentacledYou don't believe in "simple is easier", do you :)
22:34.55TentacledMyself, I'd just stick with your basic textured-rectangles-and-primitive-shapes set and be happy with it ;P
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23:26.44TorhalHumbedooh: It's ok - I have faith in your in-game-porn industry.
23:26.52Torhal:D
23:27.10Humbedooh;3
23:27.38Humbedoohthe WoW logo actually resembles a W now btw!
23:27.48Humbedoohalthough...the source code for that SVG is really odd
23:28.25Torhal"Ok, DPS - you stand in a semi-circle around the naked chick. Tank, you stand in front of the tripod...healers, stay out of the whipped cream."
23:28.51TorhalOdd how?
23:29.19Humbedoohwell it starts falling apart when I try to scale it
23:29.46TorhalThen it's a good stress-test for your implementation
23:30.04Humbedoohand not just LibSVG is having trouble, even firefox, inkscape and chrome seems to get it wrong
23:30.18TorhalWeird.
23:30.18Humbedoohobjects flying all over the place
23:30.28TorhalI'm using it on my desktop and it works fine.
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23:30.46Humbedoohas long as I don't try to change the code, it works fine
23:31.07Humbedoohhmm,maybe I could just add some sort of matrix hack to zoom in on it
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23:43.25SinusPiErm. Is it just me, or does UIDropDownMenu not display any tooltips, unless the kindergarten "Beginner Tooltips" are on..?
23:45.11SinusPiah, there's .tooltipOnButton=1 for the items. Never mind.
23:45.12AxodiousThrae, got a gtx 470 ~_~
23:46.34Humbedoohhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/libsvg-1-0/images/10-wow-svg-image/
23:48.35Humbedoohradial gradients are a bitch to render ;<
23:48.53vhaarrjust goes to show that the whole its/it's deal is too hard when even someone reimplementing SVG graphics drawing in Lua with a limited API to work with gets it wrong
23:49.21vhaarrHumbedooh: "it's" is short for "it is"
23:49.38vhaarr:P
23:49.56Humbedoohyes, I demand a SetRadialGradientAlpha command!
23:50.11Humbedoohalthough...I can probably make a workaround for it
23:51.02Nivwtb blizzcon email
23:51.11Nivblizzard is slow on everything lately!
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23:55.25Torhalvhaarr: I'm still trying to see where he used the conjunction for "it is" in an improper place.
23:55.43vhaarrTorhal: well, he probably edited it now, the rascal
23:56.14vhaarr"Test of the horrible WoW SVG image (with it's evil evil gradients) from .."
23:56.18vhaarrthere it is, he didn't edit
23:57.47TorhalAh, okay - I was looking at IRC backscroll prepended with his name
23:58.21Humbedoohye ye
23:58.39vhaarrI just found it funny though, wasn't trying to be a dick about it :P
23:58.49Humbedoohpfft

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