IRC log for #wowace on 20100925

00:00.49TorhalHumbedooh: I'm sure it isn't as frightening in countenance as Ackis.
00:04.30TorhalHumbedooh: http://www.wine-doors.org/svn/wine-doors/trunk/pixmaps/wow.svg
00:08.50Humbedoohwell...it draws the W and such ;p but I haven't made any support for that sort of styles yet, so it's just all black
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00:09.08Humbedoohor is it a portal..
00:10.23TorhalHumbedooh: http://www.wine-doors.org/svn/wine-doors/trunk/pixmaps/wow.png
00:10.35TorhalThat's what it's supposed to look like.
00:15.16nevcairielTorhal: wow, that webserver really needs to fix its goddamn mime types
00:15.22nevcairielimages downloading, svg showing plain text
00:15.23nevcairielwtf
00:15.29Humbedoohhmm, I suppose I could try using Texture:SetGradientAlpha
00:16.03Torhalnevcairiel: Yah, I kinda WTF'd on that too.
00:16.20nevcairielon second look, i guess its because its in a webdav svn repository
00:16.23TorhalThough since it's icons for games that run under Wine, I can kinda see the usefulness.
00:16.28nevcairielbut could still use some fixing =)
00:16.56HumbedoohI'm sure the average Linux user just needs to see the raw svg code to visualize the image
00:16.58vhaarrnevcairiel: look at wine-doors.org :P
00:16.58Humbedooh...
00:17.11vhaarrseems the webmaster agrees :P
00:17.12nevcairielvhaarr: lol
00:17.30TorhalNice
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00:42.00Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r317 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated encounter database:
00:42.02Repo- The Deadmines
00:42.03Repo- Shadowfang Keep
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01:42.10pompyIs build 13033 for ptr and not beta??
01:43.42Parnicso far, yeah
01:50.33Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r5 LibSVG-1.0.lua: Minor optimizations of the color fill tool.
01:56.14XinhuanHumbedooh, how are you implementing color fill?
01:57.38Humbedoohright now it's just vertical lines till I figure out something fancier
02:00.22Xinhuanaha
02:00.44pompy@describe howmany
02:00.45Repopompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/howmany/. HowMany. A simple addon to modify loot messages telling you how many/much items or money you now have.
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02:22.36Humbedoohwhat I should do is probably...use various polygons and the evenodd/nonzero checks to make the fillings
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02:34.26Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r6 LibSVG-1.0.lua: Added a layer ordering fix to prevent some WoW gfx quirks.
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02:36.58Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r5 LibXML-1.0.toc: Updated TOC
02:38.45Humbedoohpft, so not experimental
02:38.52HumbedoohI bet Torhal approved it :\
02:39.33cralorgrr... why can't I not even log in to the beta?
02:39.43cralorgets stuck on loading screen
02:40.00pompyis it like 80% full?
02:40.08cralorand before that, i'd get an error when it tried to load models
02:40.11craloryep
02:40.12pompyit does that from time to time, itll log u in still
02:40.20cralorwhat do I do?
02:40.43pompyidk but its a cache issue.. clear u cache
02:40.47cralori did
02:40.55cralorthat's why it is stuck now
02:41.25cralor1) had wow errors -> 2) delete cache folders -> 3) try logging in -> 4) fail...
02:41.25cralor:(
02:41.36Humbedoohalso blames Torhal for that.
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02:49.17cralorwtf
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02:51.42cralornow i get wow error for simply trying to look at character's model on char. screen...
02:52.15Xinhuancralor, log out
02:52.20Xinhuanset your video settings to all LOW
02:52.23cralornever logged in...
02:52.32Xinhuanby log out, i mean the user/pass menu
02:52.33pompyof ur acct
02:52.45cralori get wow errors... breaks game
02:52.47HumbedoohI always chuckle whenever a certain guildie keeps saying "with cataclysm only 4 weeks away, bla bla bla"
02:52.49Xinhuani found that i crashed all the time unless i have everything on LOW
02:53.26cralori get wow errors, so it logs me out no matter what
02:53.29cralorand i can't log in atm
02:53.39Xinhuanyou're not supposed to log in
02:53.47Humbedoohpft
02:53.52Xinhuanthe video options are available before you even type in your user/password
02:53.53Humbedoohat least you got a beta account!
02:54.12Xinhuanset it all to LOW, then quit wow, then restart wow
02:54.27Xinhuanand of course delete both your caches
02:54.38ShefkiHell the video options are available from the launcher now.
02:54.57Xinhuanthose options are very coarse though
02:55.53ShefkiTrue.
02:57.39cralorXinhuan: still stuck on loading screen
02:57.52Xinhuanwait about 4 minutes
02:57.56cralork
02:57.56Xinhuanthat did it for me
02:59.28Xinhuani wonder if streaming technlogy will create a new nightmare for customer support
02:59.49Xinhuansince everyone's wow will technically be a different and probably unique version of wow unless its 100% patched
03:01.05Humbedoohindeed
03:01.18Humbedoohthey will be forced to add a third canned message to their existing two
03:01.50Humbedooh"Please wait for your client to be fully patched before contacting customer support. We thank you for your patience and understanding."
03:05.47cralorstill frozen
03:06.05Xinhuanit took a looooooooong time for me
03:06.06Xinhuanlol
03:06.15Xinhuancheck if your wow is streaming data
03:06.22cralorno because i have latest patch
03:06.30craloror is there more...
03:06.36Xinhuanby check, i mean using a process monitor
03:06.43cralorok
03:06.46Humbedoohthink of all the poor third world children without beta access!
03:06.47Xinhuan100% patched in launcher doesn't actually mean 100%
03:06.51Humbedoohor Humbedooh!
03:06.55Xinhuanits more like 90%
03:07.28cralor00 CPU usage
03:07.43Xinhuancheck network
03:07.54cralor.02 - .09
03:07.57cralor%
03:08.07Xinhuani mean of the process zzzz
03:08.34cralordont know how to do that
03:08.42Xinhuanresmon.exe
03:08.51Shefkiiftop ftw
03:08.52cralorbut 0 - 0.9% of 10Mbps should surely mean nothing is going on
03:08.57ShefkiOf course if he's on windows he doesn't have it.
03:09.25Xinhuanresmon.exe is usually good enough for the most part lol
03:09.45cralorlike 5 b/sec
03:09.57cralor3
03:10.03Xinhuanhmm why is windows live messanger writing 300 kb/sec
03:11.12Humbedoohbecause it's evil
03:11.41Humbedoohdisk writes or memory writes? :p
03:11.53cralorwell I'm clueless, guess I'll try again tomorrow! thanks for assisting anyways
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03:12.35Xinhuandisk writes lol
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03:16.06cralorcame back to tell you the answer: simply bypass Launcher and run through Wow.exe
03:16.16cralorchar models work great, loading works great, etc.
03:16.20cralornow i can run with high settings
03:16.22Humbedoohdo we get cookies now?
03:16.29cralorwhat kind
03:16.31Humbedoohhopes for cookies
03:16.48Humbedoohtriple chocolate chip!
03:17.02cralorwhite milk or dark
03:17.24cralorall 3?
03:18.01Humbedoohyes!
03:18.23cralorsends them in the mail, fresh out of the oven
03:18.42cralorgoes to sleep
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03:24.19wolftankkRepo: startip
03:26.36Humbedooh@describe startip
03:26.37RepoHumbedooh: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/startip/. StarTip. Tooltips from outerspace
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03:59.26Repo10grid: 03Greltok 07ace3 * r1329 Grid.toc: Load AceGUI before AceConfig.
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04:05.46quiescenso.o
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04:19.02Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r6 LibXML-1.0.lua: Tidying up.
04:19.04RepoFixed a small bug with a stack error call referring to a non-existent key.
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04:29.51Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.4d-beta-15-ge6dea71 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
04:29.53Repoe6dea71: prevent creating an empty table in OnEnable
04:29.55Repo27225b3: fix typo in warning message
04:31.44Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.5-release * 10bea3c /: [new tag] tag as 6.4-release, lots of updates, may not like them
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04:38.07AvisSecureAuraHeader giving me a headache =(
04:40.24Humbedoohis glad he never made addons that required secure thingymajigs
04:40.50Xinhuanone day, you might
04:40.51Xinhuan:)
04:41.20Xinhuandebugging secure stuff is a nightmare because you can't modify blizz code, so you can only debug by trying to trace your way thru the source code by... reading it
04:44.25orionshockI wrote an addon that required secure code.... it was rather easy ... granted it was only macro buttons :)
04:46.42Avisthe way it is now, you can either have aura frames like in wrath, with extensive filtering and sorting and such, but without the ability to click buffs off, or you can have them without any of that but able to click buffs off
04:47.03Humbedoohaaaaaanywho, sleepy time~
04:47.05Xinhuanif so, i suggest you wait 1 month
04:47.14Xinhuanfor the headers/aura system to get updated
04:47.19nebulaprogrammically removing buffs is pretty silly anyway
04:47.19Xinhuanor you'll just bang your head
04:47.20orionshocki'd rather have the customization of display rather than the ability to click them off
04:47.34Xinhuanwell you sometimes DO want to click them off
04:47.39Xinhuanand you dont' want to display them twice
04:47.40nebulaso have an macro with it
04:47.45AvisI'll probably end up just having both, and letting the user decide whether that buff group should be clickable of have advanced options
04:47.49orionshockXinhuan, like ?
04:48.00Xinhuanlike testing setups
04:48.02Xinhuangear setups
04:48.12orionshockmeh
04:48.15Xinhuanfor example, molten armor (mage) converts spirit into crit
04:48.59Xinhuanor target dummy stuff
04:49.27orionshockimo the conclusion on the UI forums about buffs is the best imo. Buffs that provide bennifit when dispelled should be fixed at the mechanic level, not the UI
04:49.52quiescensyeah, i would probably just prefer to have the filtering etc and have it display only
04:50.03quiescensthe buffs that I would bother trying to remove, you can count on one hand
04:50.05Avis<PROTECTED>
04:50.08nebulayea
04:50.09quiescensand could easily just make a macro button or two
04:50.24nebulai doubt blizzard was trying to fix that by disabling clicking on aura
04:50.34Xinhuanwhy would i want to make a macro if i just want to click off certain buffs
04:50.39Xinhuanmy class doesn't have if i want to duel
04:50.42Xinhuanoutside ironforge
04:50.51Xinhuanyou don't make sense
04:50.52nebulashouldn't matter out of combat one way or another, imo
04:50.57quiescensnoone said you want to
04:51.14quiescensbut if the choice is either to have no filtering and allow you to click off buffs
04:51.18Xinhuanbeing able to click off buffs is important
04:51.23quiescensand to have filtering, but not be able to click them
04:51.26quiescensi'd just take the latter
04:51.27Xinhuananother example is Combustion, 3 charges
04:51.37Xinhuanbut clicking it off resets the 3 min cd immediately
04:52.01Avisthat sounds like a mechanic issue
04:52.02orionshockagain, imo fix the mechanic not the UI.
04:52.11Avisjust like boomkins clicking off eclipse
04:52.16Avisand clicking off fort in lk to remove infest
04:52.34Xinhuani don't see the mechanics being changed anytime soon lol
04:52.42orionshockor warlocks banishing tree druids & getting failed b/c addon clicked off the form iirc
04:53.36quiescensi did that manually, although mm
04:53.52quiescensI rarely ran into people trying to banish or scare beast
04:53.59quiescensit was most often hibernate
04:54.46AvisI guess they just decided it was easier to protect the function than create mechanics that couldnt be exploited
04:55.11Xinhuanbecause there's too many uses
04:56.05quiescensmaybe things have changed but i can think of like, less than half a dozen things that are worth programatically removing
04:56.42nebulait makes it a choice
04:56.49nebulasomething you need to think about doing
04:56.53quiescensand of course, most of those I would just make a macro for rather than trying to find the buff in the buff list in combat
04:57.28orionshockIMO they should have hardware evented the function instead of making blizz only
05:00.21quiescensits not purely about whether there is the possibility of someone gaining an advantage from the existing system
05:00.36quiescensit has to be balanced against the loss of functionality or whatever on the flip side
05:04.02orionshockor there could be an irrational possibility that is quite plausible :)    some of the new UI Dev @ blizzard are jealous that addon authors are better at design and they did that just to irritate everyone
05:04.36Xinhuanits not that addon authors are better at design
05:04.42nebulaor they're in the middle of implementing it and people are getting annoyed about something that'll be fixed in the near future
05:04.45Xinhuani'll tell you that 99% are not
05:05.07Xinhuana good UI is one that works out of the box and doesn't confuse new users needlessly
05:05.32orionshockand is intuitive
05:05.54Avisthere has to be a reason that every mmo ever copies the same basic layout lol
05:06.30Xinhuanpitbull might be like super awesome UI, but its not a good design for new users
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05:07.02nebulapretty much why a lot of people in my guild sue shadowed
05:07.03quiescensaren't we a little bit off on a tangent here
05:07.12nebulause*
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05:36.24PrimerCan #show in a macro be conditional?
05:36.35Primerfor example, I want an all-in-one warlock pet macro
05:37.13Primerbut when I'm in demon spec, and I have Demonic Empowerment, I want to toggle that before fel guard intercept
05:37.33Primerconsidering that it's instant and can be chained with intercept (presumably)
05:39.11nebulayes
05:40.24nebulauses the same syntax as a /cast condition, or what-not
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05:45.58Primerdoesn't seem to work
05:46.35Primer#show [pet:felhunter] Devour Magic; [pet:felguard] Intercept
05:46.36Primer?
05:47.06nebulashould work, i normally use #showtooltip, though
05:47.19PrimerI have both
05:47.36Primerneither work
05:47.37nebulaoh? will only read the first line
05:48.06nebulathe do the same thing, show is icon only with macro name if you mouseover
05:48.13Primerit'd probably help if there wasn't a typo
05:48.14Primerworks :)
05:48.20nebula:p
05:48.51Parnicyou could also just do #show/#showtooltip and then have the next line be your conditional to choose an ability
05:48.57Parnicthen the tooltip/icon will flip automagically
05:49.21nebulahe's putting an always cast spell at the start
05:49.33nebulaso can't use let it fall though
05:49.34Parnicah
05:49.38nebulajust*
05:51.51GalvinSo now that I got my addon up on curse as an alpha, will people just start alpha testing it and report bugs on it and stuff or is there something more I need to do?
05:54.05Xinhuanalphas on't show up on curse
05:54.10Xinhuanonly beta and release tags do
05:54.54GalvinSo should I tag it as beta then?
05:55.04nebulaif it's usable, sure
05:55.24Galvinyeah its usable, ok gotta figure out what tag to give it, need to read up on that.
05:55.47Xinhuanalphas don't propagate to curse, because ppl who use wowace/cf directly are often more addon savvy and know how to report bugs
05:56.02nebulashould show up in the client, though, no?
05:56.16Xinhuanonly if set in the client to use alphas
05:56.21Xinhuanand teh default is release
05:56.24nebulawell yea :p
05:56.57GalvinI just finished the options panels this week. and tested them but im sure I missed stuff.
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06:00.14GalvinAnyone with SVN can download it?
06:03.13Connor1Any Fury Warriors here?
06:03.52MikkGalvin: yes by default
06:04.12MikkOr they can go to curseforce/wowace and download from there
06:04.21Mikk(Via the "Files" tab of your addon)
06:05.41GalvinHeh how do I tag thru SVN or do I just use the website to tag?
06:05.56nebulajust use the website :p
06:06.30Galvintag name beta sufficient I take it?
06:06.43Xinhuanyou should give it a version number
06:06.45nebularN-beta or such would work
06:06.55Galvinwhats rN mean?
06:06.57Xinhuanyou can also tag it with svn by using the tag/branch option
06:07.03nebularevision number
06:07.19Galvinyeah I was trying to find that in svn.
06:07.19nebulalike r1-beta
06:09.02GalvinWheres the tag/branch option?
06:11.21Galvinfound it
06:17.11GalvinOk tagged it from the website cause didn't understand what svn path to use.  Now I have tags/r3-beta and my code is in there. that correct?
06:17.47nebulayar
06:18.36Galvinok hopefully people will like this mod took 100s of hours to write it and its my first big addon.
06:19.58nebulawhat is it?
06:20.40GalvinEver seen statusbars2?
06:21.32GalvinWell its like that except you can customize it a lot.  textures, text, size width height etc can all be changed.
06:21.54GalvinIt shows health and power bars, rune bar, combo bar. I do plan to add a holy power bar eventually dont know when.
06:22.47Galvinneed to make some screen shots next
06:23.05nebulawhat's it called? lol
06:24.05Galvinhttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/galvins-unitbars/ if the link works.
06:24.52nebulaah
06:24.59Galvindid the link work?
06:25.31nebulayea
06:25.42nebula@describe galvins-unitbars
06:25.43Reponebula: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/galvins-unitbars/. Galvin's UnitBars. Displays health, power, rune, and combo points bars that can be moved around.
06:25.47Galvin12 hour learning curve on how to use svn to upload my project and make a pkgmeta file, so much fun :)
06:26.02Galvinyeah thats it
06:27.22GalvinI love ace3 for options, that lib is like magic
06:30.17Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7551 Northrend (2 files in 2 directories):
06:30.19RepoNorthrend/Koralon: Fix Fists timer, breath count. add first bar.
06:57.06GalvinHow many images does curse allow to upload?
06:59.04newbieI don't think I put a limit on it
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06:59.20ckknightdon't abuse it, though, Galvin
07:02.16Megalontime to upload all sankaku galleries
07:02.48GalvinHow many images should I add I got 2 showing options panels, and was going to add another showing some bars.
07:03.09GalvinBut recount is using around 5 images.
07:03.36nevcairielno harm having 5 images as long as they show useful stuff
07:03.51Galvinone image is around 93k the other around 121k
07:04.17Galvinimages is one of the first things I look at when i go addon shopping.
07:04.44nevcairielMost addons are highly skinnable, images don't do them justice
07:05.15GalvinThis addon you can configure a frame to look a million different ways. was one of the big things I wanted was high customization.
07:05.39Galvinexcept runebar since that uses blizzard rune textures.
07:13.19GalvinWhen does the addon become searchable?
07:14.23Galvinnevermind found it.
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07:42.33orionshockI smell patch coming on...
07:42.34orionshockhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26859190128&postId=268477747370&sid=1#2
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08:12.20Repo10gimplist: 03DrKazza * r38 Gimplist.lua: Implemented GUID checking
08:19.34Zynorionshock, very likely with part 3 of the pre-Cataclysm patch for download now
08:20.25sbup3 available?=
08:20.46sbunice
08:20.53Zynit's 5.19Gb
08:20.59Zyntotally small yes
08:21.03Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r967 AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:
08:21.05sbuhm
08:21.05RepoAceConfigDialog-3.0: Fix a typo that broke options sorting by name in case of same order (Ticket #172)
08:21.10sbulast one was 4.5, right?
08:21.14Zynthink so
08:21.29sbu1.8, 2.8, xxx
08:21.41sbuso 600 mb now
08:23.12Fiskeryay
08:23.21Avisfinding bugs that dont throw errors is SO much fun
08:23.22Fiskeri won't have to go download the pieces manually
08:23.28Fiskerthough it might be quicker
08:23.56sbubut there is no "arena season ends in 2 weeks" announcement yet :|
08:24.04sbuso its at least 2.5 weeks...
08:24.30nevcairielthe patch will be longer then 2.5 weeks
08:25.22sbunot if they want to hit a 2010 cata release :p
08:25.36sbuso 2-3 weeks...
08:25.39nevcairielstill 3 month left this year
08:25.51sbunot going to happen in december, i'm pretty sure about that
08:25.58sbublizz doesnt do xmas releases
08:25.59nevcairieli dont expect the patch before blizzcon
08:26.06sbui do
08:26.06nebulareally?
08:26.37nebulathat they minor version bumped the ptr release, seems like they're gearing toward soon
08:27.02nevcairielminor version bumped?
08:27.09nebulawell, its 4.0.1
08:27.11nebulalol
08:27.19nevcairielit was 4.0.1 when it hit the ptr in the first place
08:27.37quiescenso.o
08:27.44nebulaoh >.> well then!
08:28.14Fiskerto do LK Heroic you only need to take the 4 wing bosses on heroic right?
08:28.21nebulayesh
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09:16.17Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r293 / (2 files in 2 directories):
09:16.18RepoBlackBook module will now remember your Real ID friend's characters.
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09:33.36Repo10xperl: 03PlayerLin * r383 / (2 files in 2 directories):
09:33.39RepoFixed ticket 706: Now the buffs bar should not overlay on anythings in player frame.
09:33.39RepoFixed revision, someone forgot update it and make X-Perl say it's r381 on r382...
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10:33.19sbuI HATE YOU FISKER
10:33.21sbu:|
10:34.52sbuokay, servers are alive again
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12:37.27evlI need to test pet + possessbar tweaks, but I don't have a level 80 warlock. anyone remember anywhere I get both on a normal char?
12:40.53nevcairiela hunter
12:41.39evlyeah but I don't remember where I can possess something as well
12:42.15VonhintenHOME`hunter can take over the pet
12:42.18evlAhhhh
12:42.19evlthanks
12:42.38hastepriest would work as well
12:42.42hastemind control + shadow fiend
12:44.31nebulaor dk, raise ally
12:45.17Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r294 / (2 files in 2 directories):
12:45.19RepoBlackBook auto-complete will now also use recorded Real ID friend's characters.
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12:58.53Repo10librescomm-1-0: 03myrroddin * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): Blasphemy with the .toc and .pkgmeta
13:06.41Repo10librescomm-1-0: 03myrroddin 04r57 * r57 : Tagging as r57
13:07.58nevcairiellua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) print("key: ", tostring(k)) end }); t[nil]
13:07.58lua_botnevcairiel: luabot:1: '=' expected near '<eof>'
13:08.25nevcairiellua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) print("key: ", tostring(k)) end }); return t[nil]
13:08.25lua_botnevcairiel: key: , nil, nil
13:09.09nevcairiellua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function(t,k) print("key: ", tostring(k)) return "foo" end }); return t[nil]
13:09.09lua_botnevcairiel: key: , nil, foo
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13:54.05RepoAdded some upvalues, and optional params to a few lookups DRYCODE
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14:13.56zoktaranyone seen a "destroyed items log" type addon?
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14:47.11Fiskerlol Megalon
14:47.27FiskerSome kind of Infected Mushroom remix in those GSL movies
14:47.29Fiskeror vods
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15:02.58Megalonyou lold?
15:09.12sbusylvanaar! :p
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15:10.07sbusylvanaar: could you make the "AltNames" -> "Import from guild roster" option more dynamic? e.g. allowing the user to enter the guild-note string
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15:13.25Fiskerrushes totally suck now Megalon :(
15:15.56Megalon:<
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15:21.45kagaroyou know i wonder if they are gonn retro grade stuff like shadowfrost shards to 10 man since
15:23.03sbuerr i think so
15:24.10Fiskersince what kagaro ?
15:24.47kagarothey are changing the acheivments for 25 man so it can be done in 10 man
15:26.51kagaroso a fresh 10 man guild could do we are legendary
15:28.02kagaroWe just made a change to all of the old 25 player raids that allows guild achievements to be completed as if they were a 10 player raid. This means you will only need 8/10 instead of 20/25.
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15:29.21Fiskeri ated food kagaro
15:36.01Megalonso you did a good thing for once
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15:57.44Talrynsbu: I'm not sure I follow on the AltNames.  What exactly is the user entering?
15:59.05TalrynThe guild notes are from the notes for every guild member.
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17:17.14Repo10xperl: 03hp2 06hp2 * r410 : Cloning latest trunk from mainline.
17:35.02evlIs it possible to move frames in combat via secure headers?
17:35.28evlI'm trying to decorate/compact/strip down the mainmenubar but so far it's proving hard because of taint
17:43.42Repo10xperl: 03hp2 06hp2 * r411 : Cloning latest trunk from mainline.
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17:44.48cralorwhat Blizzard FrameXML file(s) would be the culprit of moving my DK runes when entering a vehicle?
17:47.09orionshockevl, the point of the secure env is to make sure it can't do that sort of thing programatically
17:47.22evlI understand that
17:47.34evlHow should I proceed?
17:47.39evlI could rebuild the whole mainmenu I guess
17:48.00orionshockwell what are you doing to start with, just skinning the mainmenu?
17:48.11evlorionshock: just compacting it really
17:48.25evlorionshock: http://internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/6a34a56fdc8988aab93b7f69d49da699.png
17:48.35orionshockyou can rearange it out of combat w/o any problems.. just moving it in combat is not going to happen
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17:48.45evlYeah there comes the problem
17:49.13evlgoing in and out of vehicles/possess in combart
17:49.14Tentacledand by not going to happen orion means not going to happen.
17:49.38Tentacledthrows a nearby anvil at secure code.
17:49.48evlSo in reality if I want what I just pasted I have to remake the whole mainmenubar myself?
17:49.59evleven if I do that, won't my code taint too?
17:50.01quiescenso.o
17:50.19TentacledThat, and if you happen to need ANY secure-related button... you're it.
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17:50.40orionshockevl, it can be done, ask nevcairiel how he's doing it in BT4... i'd usually say go read the code, but nevcairiel seems to have used some sort of black magic ...
17:50.51evlI enjoy black magic
17:50.58evlI looked into dominos
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17:51.07evlthere's some voodoo going on with script blocks inside attribute handlers
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17:51.19Tentaclediä iä cthulhu phnglui rlyeh ftagn
17:51.27evlI agree
17:52.30evlorionshock: I'll go check BT4's code, thanks for pulverizing my dreams... gently
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17:53.58evlnevcairiel: your code is remarkably clean for being described as black magic
17:54.27orionshockevl, right.. should have said "Clean Black Magic"
17:55.01Megalonit's the bleached kind of black
17:55.14Megalonmichael jackson magic so to say
17:55.35orionshockeh.. w/o the CP problems tho
17:58.42Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07Cata * r745 / (9 files in 3 directories): Fix zone naming issues
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18:16.18Repo- Changed import syntax to: struct, error_msg = LibXML:Import(data, [loose]);
18:16.19Repo- Added line numbers to error messages for easier debugging.
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18:32.07Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r611 / (4 files in 1 directory):
18:32.09Repo- setup the toc to properly strip out embeds.xml whenever it's building a no-lib version. wow, this has been broken forever. nice.
18:32.10Repo- added support for LibDualSpec-1.0
18:32.12Repo- wrapped a bit of debug code in --@debug@
18:33.47Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added docmeta stuff.
18:34.19Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r612 .pkgmeta:
18:34.21Repo- apparently i had the LibDualSpec git path wrong. i should probably install TortoiseGit at some point
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18:52.22Humbe^Zzzhmm
18:52.54Humbedoohwhat am I doing wrong since the luadoc thingy ain't working for me :\
18:53.30HumbedoohI gots my .docmeta and my comments in the lua files, and documenter picks it up, but no pages are produced
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18:57.29Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.2.0 * r318 / (11 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 6 lines)
18:57.31RepoAdded support for copying tactics to the clipboard
18:57.32RepoAdded support for generic chat channels
18:57.33RepoAdded support for global rules
18:57.34RepoAdded rule test mode
18:58.11Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.2.0 Beta 4 * r319 : Tagging as 1.2.0 Beta 4
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19:03.44Fiskeri just came Megalon
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19:05.39Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r212 SimpleMD.lua: -bugfix prefixToMsg lookup table
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19:29.10Repo10xperl: 03hp2 06hp2 * r412 / (25 files in 1 directory): Resync'd with mainline r383.
19:30.01Fiskeri came again Megalon
19:33.02PrimerI hope you had a towel
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19:42.38evlorionshock: Success! Dominos plus just tweaking the default art
19:43.16Tullerhurray, even though I don't know what you're talking about :P
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19:47.06evlTuller: I wanted the default UI look but dominos
19:47.14evlTuller: http://internetfriendsforever.com/screenshots/ef7873df4b56b40e00a0cfef71400c02.png
19:47.36evlTuller: I just made a new module that hooks into HideBlizzard and shows some stuff again
19:47.54Tullerfancy
19:48.19Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r10 LibXML-1.0.lua: Updated docs
19:48.53evlTuller: it works! mine just tainted all over the place :P
19:49.09Tullerhaha
19:49.44evlTuller: actuallty what I'm doing is on BT4 todo :D
19:50.53Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r215 / (10 files in 7 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
19:50.55Repo- Fixes to LibSticky support in UI-2.1
19:50.56Repo- Database update
19:50.58Repo- Make riding level detection work for 4.0.1+
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19:54.20Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r11 LibXML-1.0.lua: Moar tries!
19:55.55Humbedoohsmelly, stupid, dumb documenter ;(
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19:56.52Tullerwell, my obvious suggestion is to release it if it works :P
19:57.52Humbedoohwho what where how?
19:58.10Groktari went OUTSIDE today
19:58.16Groktar!!!
19:58.31Groktarcompany paintball
19:58.36Humbedooh;O
19:58.37Groktari got shot a bunch
19:58.45GroktarCEO got me twice
19:58.48EthanCentauraithe "outside" room is amazing! I can't even see the ceiling! :D
19:58.54Tullerit think we're scheduled in theory to do that at some point
19:58.55Groktarhehe
19:59.12Groktarbetter hurry up before it gets cold
20:00.57Fiskeromg Megalon i just came again
20:01.00FiskerTuller btw
20:01.01Fiskeri hate you
20:01.09Tullerwhat did I do? :P
20:01.26Fiskeryou keep changing omnicc so it removes my timers on small debuffs/buffs
20:01.44Tullerso you keep on doing the defaults dance?
20:01.46Groktarcheers for Tuller
20:02.10Groktarsuspects Tuller has a built in check to look for Fisker's characters and break their settings
20:02.16GroktarADMIT IT!
20:02.22Fiskerwhat defaults dance Tuller ?
20:02.42Tullerie, you have to tweak things each time I make a version change
20:03.03Fiskerwhat's that got to do with defaults?
20:04.21Tullersettings dance then
20:04.46Fiskeri will kill tou
20:04.48Fiskerwith an y
20:05.56Fiskerso what did you do this time that i have to change Tuller ?
20:06.19Tullerwhat version are you running?
20:06.41Fisker3.0.4
20:07.26Tulleri don't recall doing anything to scaling in that one
20:08.55Fiskerwell it was probably around a week ago i noticed it
20:09.12Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r12 LibXML-1.0.lua: Flying baby cows!
20:09.18Tullereither way the same standard applies: reduce the minimum font size slider in order to make more stuff show up
20:09.25Tulleryou're going to hate me in a week again :P
20:09.34Fiskeri definitely will
20:09.42Tulleraka, 4.0 magic
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20:11.10Fisker4.0 won't be in a week
20:11.17Tulleromnicc 4
20:12.10Tullerie, i use pattern matching to map cooldowns -> groups
20:12.26Tullerwhere auras get their own settings, action bars get their own settings
20:12.30Tulleretc
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20:18.08RepoCloning r383 unsuccessful; bringing back to previous status.
20:19.48Repo10libxml-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r13 .docmeta: Work, damnit!
20:22.52Humbedoohmeh
20:22.55HumbedoohI give up
20:27.18Groktarewie
20:27.27Groktarblood is oozing through the gauze pad on my elbow
20:27.31Groktarthought that shit would be done by now
20:27.35Groktarwas an hour and a half ago
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20:34.27Repo- Fix missing warning string
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20:43.48AxodiousGroktar: stop poking it imo! :p
20:44.06FiskerGroktarmen
20:44.41Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r295 Modules/BlackBook.lua: Disable the Real ID friends menu if no one is found.
20:45.17Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r213 / (3 files in 2 directories): -apply Tricks settings from config to the timer bars
20:45.19Repo-fix some comments
20:45.20Repo-remove a few unused locale strings
20:49.22nevcairielevl: the whole secure dealy is not as bad as people make it out to be
20:49.44evlnevcairiel: i guess the only problem I had was stacking frames relative to what was currently visible
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20:51.28Xinhuanwhats this harry potter 2 guy doing
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20:51.54Axodiouso_o
20:51.55Humbedoohfighting the evil svn-voldemort
20:52.09Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r214 Locales/enUS.lua: -remove more old locale strings
20:52.10Xinhuancould have done that all in 1 commit
20:52.32Humbedoohbut now that you're awake, Xinhuan..!
20:52.54Humbedoohcould you un-experimentalize libxml?
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20:53.15Xinhuanwhat does it do secifically?
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20:53.24Xinhuan@project libxml
20:53.25Humbedoohimports xml
20:53.26Repo10xperl: 03hp2 06hp2_r383 043.0.5a * r399 : Cleaning up tag baggage.
20:53.33Xinhuaninto?
20:53.33Humbedooh@project libxml-1.0
20:53.34RepoXinhuan: No project found that matches 'libxml'
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20:53.40Xinhuan@project libxml-1.0
20:53.42Humbedoohinto lua tables
20:53.43RepoHumbedooh: No project found that matches 'libxml-1.0'
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20:53.48Humbedoohhrmm
20:53.49RepoXinhuan: No project found that matches 'libxml-1.0'
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20:53.51Humbedooh@project libxml-1-0
20:53.56Xinhuanbah
20:53.57Repo10xperl: 03hp2 06hp2_r383 043.0.5e * r403 : Cleaning up tag baggage.
20:54.03RepoHumbedooh: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libxml-1-0/. LibXML-1.0. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental needs final approval. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Updated: 33 minutes ago
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20:55.00Humbedooh....
20:55.07nevcairielLink the API page on the description page, and i'm happy to approve it
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20:55.43nevcairielI turned IRC reporting for that guys repository off
20:55.53nevcairielmight still be some backlog in Repo though <.<
20:56.13Humbedoohdone
20:56.30RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libxml-1-0/. LibXML-1.0. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
20:56.33Humbedoohwheee
20:56.41Xinhuannevcairiel, should have looked through the code first before approving it ;p
20:56.46Xinhuanwhich is what i'm doing lol
20:56.53nevcairielso bad, eh?
20:57.01Xinhuannah it looks fine
20:57.17Xinhuanbut libraries have stricter approvals!
20:57.23nevcairieli briefly scrolled through it, and saw it had a API page, so thats a bonus
20:57.42Xinhuanchecking if the docmeta actually works
20:58.03Humbedoohdoesn't seem to work for me :\
20:58.13Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/libxml-1-0/pages/api/
20:58.18Xinhuanappears to work perfectly
20:58.20Humbedoohmade that manually :p
20:58.24Xinhuanoh
20:58.28nevcairieli think the documenter is broken
20:58.33Xinhuanuh whats in your .docmeta
20:58.48Xinhuancan u paste it somewhere
20:58.49Humbedooh-
20:58.49Humbedooh<PROTECTED>
20:58.49Humbedooh<PROTECTED>
20:58.49Humbedooh<PROTECTED>
20:58.56nevcairielbtw, does that external for just LibStub.lua work? o.O
20:58.59Xinhuanno tabs there right?
20:59.01nevcairielnever seen it done like that
20:59.04Humbedoohno tabs no
20:59.24nevcairielhm nop, apparently it doesnt work :P
20:59.28Humbedoohhmm no :p
20:59.31HumbedoohI shall have to fix that
20:59.50TorhalHumbedooh: This is why your stuff was listed as experimental - not because I'm "an evil man", but because we're stricter with libs :)
20:59.51nevcairielalso turn off nolib packages then
21:00.32nevcairielbut you are
21:00.39Humbedoohpfft Torhal - you just put everything as experimental by default :p
21:01.23Xinhuan"Skipping /repos/svn/wow/libxml-1-0/mainline, no .docmeta"
21:01.30AeyanYeah, you guys really cracked down on Alar and Farlander. =P
21:01.33Xinhuanare u sure u have one?
21:01.38nevcairieli see it in there
21:02.08nevcairielyou know, the documenter could really use a <pre> tag in there somewhere
21:02.10Humbedoohgah, was editing pkgmeta for libsvg instead of libxml >_<
21:02.14nevcairielthe status page, i mean
21:02.41Xinhuanso you think the documenter is broken?
21:02.48Xinhuanor its not recognizing the file
21:03.00Humbedoohdoesn't it have a <code> tag that works sort of like <pre>?
21:03.04nevcairielscroll down in the documenter log
21:03.08nevcairielnew entrys are at the bottom
21:03.19Xinhuanor perhaps it skips experimental projects
21:03.25Xinhuanbut i doubt that
21:03.39Arrowmasterckknight wrote it, you never know
21:03.45nevcairielit did process it
21:03.51nevcairielsearch for libxml in it
21:03.59nevcairieljust dont stop at the first hits :P
21:04.54nevcairielIt seems to run fine..
21:05.11nevcairielmight as well be broken and not yelling in the log
21:05.34Xinhuanah hmm
21:05.42TorhalFiskers Humbedooh.
21:05.44nevcairielThe Ace3 generated API pages havent been updated once this year
21:05.54nevcairielguess it is broken
21:06.18Xinhuanbut libmapdata ones seem to work
21:06.52nevcairielhm yeah that looks generated
21:06.54Torhalnevcairiel: Have any of the Ace3 pages been touched manually?
21:06.55Repo10libxml-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated TOC and pkgmeta
21:07.02TorhalThat may eb the issue.
21:07.04nevcairielTorhal: dont think so
21:07.05Torhalseb/be/
21:07.12TorhalMan, typing is hard.
21:07.14Xinhuanteh ones that got updated at least seem to have
21:07.15Xinhuan"Successfully sent data to http://www.wowace.com/addons/trade-filter/upload-page/ "
21:07.17Xinhuantype messages
21:07.22nevcairielhm
21:07.25nevcairielindeed
21:08.02nevcairielthe docmeta of libmapdata is no different though
21:08.23Xinhuani doubt kagaro made that API page himself
21:08.33nevcairielHumbedooh: did you create the API page before trying docmeta?
21:08.38nevcairielor afterwards?
21:09.09Humbedoohtried both
21:09.41Xinhuanor just ping ckknight
21:09.41Humbedoohfirst I tried the docmeta thing without making a page, then I tried making a page and then resubmitting the docs
21:09.43Xinhuan^_^
21:10.01nevcairielduring work hours :p
21:10.03Humbedoohno biggie for me tho, it's just one single function I gotta document ;p
21:11.27Xinhuanperhaps you should give an example what struct contains
21:11.46Xinhuanhaving to read thru that Usage doc code is PITA
21:12.00Humbedoohlemme paste something then
21:12.04Xinhuanlike after running "local struct, errmsg = libxml:Import(xml_data);"
21:12.12Xinhuanstruct will contain = { blah blah }
21:12.22Xinhuanthat would probably be more useful
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21:12.53Xinhuanalso i assume all attributes are returned as strings?
21:14.10Xinhuanstring.gsub(s, "([%w%-]+)=([\"'])(.-)%2", function (w, _, a) arg[w] = a end);
21:14.25Xinhuanhmmm you're creating 2 new functions every parseargs() call right?
21:14.37Humbedoohone strict and one sloppy
21:15.01Humbedoohhttp://paste.wowace.com/2498/
21:15.01Xinhuanthe function doesn't return anything
21:15.14Xinhuanso it doesn't actually do any string substitution right?
21:15.31Humbedoohno it just takes the args and puts them in a hash
21:15.40Xinhuanperhaps you should use string.gmatch()
21:16.05PrimerNR fishing derby...any pool in NR?
21:16.15Xinhuanand upvalue the function
21:16.31Primerfucker already won 7 minutes in
21:17.14Humbedoohgsub works like gmatch tho, if there's no return value - so I just use it as a shorthand for gmatch
21:17.43Humbedoohbut I could change it ofc
21:17.49Xinhuanfor w, _, a in string.gmatch(s, "([%w%-]+)=([\"'])(.-)%2") do
21:17.49Xinhuanarg[w] = a
21:17.49Xinhuanend
21:17.53Xinhuanwouldn't that be the same?
21:18.00Xinhuanno function closures created
21:18.32Humbedoohyeah, just wrote that :p
21:19.00Xinhuancos i was thinking, you'll be generating 2 functions per xml tag
21:19.12Xinhuanin the input
21:19.21Humbedoohyeah that's somewhat stupid of me
21:20.59Humbedoohjust testing the changes and then I'll commit it
21:21.53Xinhuannow the final part would be an optimization pass on the code
21:22.18Xinhuanyou're doing a lot of unnecessary table lookups
21:22.32Xinhuanfor example, string.find() and table.insert() all over the place
21:22.36Humbedoohand now I broke it, hmm
21:22.44Xinhuanif near the top of the file, you just put
21:22.51Humbedoohyeah, I could upval that to tinsert and such
21:23.01Xinhuanlocal strfind = strfind
21:23.07Xinhuanit'll go much faster
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21:23.48Humbedoohor just text:
21:23.51Humbedoohtext:find()
21:24.03Xinhuanheh that's even faster
21:24.37Humbedoohactually, half the code does that, the other half doesn't
21:24.39Humbedooh:s
21:24.50Humbedoohslaps Humbedooh around a bit with a large trout
21:24.51Megalonbut it will need ONE POINT TWENTYONE JIGGAWATTS
21:25.03Xinhuani'm sure you'll figure out the gmatch() bug heh
21:25.06hastelocal strfind(str, ) > str:find() > string.find(str, )
21:26.05haste<PROTECTED>
21:27.03Xinhuanyour table.insert(top, a) should probably replace with top[#top + 1] = a
21:27.25Xinhuanor even better keep a upvalue containing the size of top[] and increment that
21:27.29Axodiousthe internet is no fun with no dns :(
21:28.27Humbedoohlesson one; don't call s:find(s, pattern) ;<
21:28.38Xinhuanhahah
21:29.11Xinhuanhmmmm
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21:29.20Xinhuanif i log out with a water elemental
21:29.29Xinhuanand log back in, it starts out with 30% mana
21:29.31Xinhuanand 100% health
21:29.51Xinhuandoesn't matter what the hp/mana was before the logout
21:29.55Axodiousit was spamming freeze in org
21:29.57Axodiousimo
21:30.12hasteXinhuan: it's like you'd summon a new one, but without the extra regen bonus
21:30.24Xinhuanwell 30% is just an approximate
21:30.28Xinhuani didn't actually count
21:31.16Megalonperhaps it had nothing to drink
21:31.18Megalonherp derp
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21:37.07Fiskerhey Megalon
21:37.09Fiskeri wanna kill you
21:37.16GalvinIf I remove enable-nolib-creation: no from the .pkgmeta do I have to change my toc file or does the packager take care of that? I have libs that my mod needs to work.
21:40.08Xinhuansee how other addons do it
21:40.40Galvinall I see is the .toc file, but I dont know if that toc file was modified by the packager or not.
21:40.57Xinhuanthe toc is modified yes, but only if you tell it to
21:41.01Xinhuangenerally the toc will contain a #@no-lib-strip@ and #@end-no-lib-strip@ section
21:41.08Axodiouseesh walrock t11 is UGLY
21:41.11GalvinI downloaded my own addon and saw new things in the .toc file that the packager added.
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21:41.28Xinhuanin between would be commented for nolibs
21:41.35Xinhuanby the packager
21:41.41Xinhuanand you would OptionalDeps all your libs
21:41.47harlso.. people can enter the nexus when they hit level 67?
21:42.10Galvinso in the .pkgemeta I have to add required depenancies since the mod wont run without them?
21:42.12harli didn't know that
21:42.53Xinhuanyou add them as optional
21:43.08Xinhuanbecause you don't know if the user is running an embedded one or not
21:43.23Xinhuanin the toc i mean
21:43.27Xinhuanpkgmeta isn't changed
21:43.32Galvinthe mod will crash if they dont haev the libs loaded.
21:43.42Xinhuanyeah that's the user's problem
21:43.45Xinhuannot yours
21:44.07Xinhuanthe user needs to install all required libs separately by himself in a nolib package
21:44.17Xinhuanall your addon has to do is specify those libs as optionaldeps
21:44.17Galvinand the libs I make options is all the ones listed in relationships on the webpage?
21:44.21Galvin*optional
21:44.45Xinhuanno, the libs are all the ones that normally get packaged - they are listed in pkgmeta
21:45.00Xinhuanall those won't be packaged in a nolib zip
21:45.31Galvinyeah I a working pkgmeta, but I put no lib option in there, and now I want to change it so people can download a lib or nolib version.
21:46.07Xinhuanits hard to explain - go svncheckout some other addon like Postal and see its done
21:46.12Xinhuanhow*
21:46.39Xinhuanthen also go download the lib and nolib zips and see what they contain
21:47.24Galvinhow do I know whats in the .toc file came from the packager?
21:47.36Repo10libxml-1-0: 03Humbedooh * r15 LibXML-1.0.lua: Optimizationatoring the code.
21:47.40Xinhuanthe raw one is the one you want to see in the svn checkout
21:47.49Galvinahh ok
21:47.51Xinhuanthe packaged one is why i asked you to download the actual zips from the website
21:47.52Shadowedlibxml
21:47.53Shadowedthat sounds scary
21:48.02Xinhuanso there's 3 versions
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21:48.12Xinhuana svn version, a nolib version, a lib version
21:48.22Galvinyeah i'll check those out thanks
21:50.31Humb^coffeebreakI added the example dump of the xml_struct to the API doc as well now
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21:53.05Repo10libsvg-1-0 (experimental): 03Humbedooh * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated pkgmeta and TOC
21:54.26Galvinthere documentation about things like no-lib-strip? looking at postal now. looks easy I just put these around my libs.
21:57.34Xinhuanyes there are
21:58.54GalvinI haven't found them and I been reading all over. btw my addon doesn't show up on wowace like it does on curseforge. I know some appear on both.
21:59.15Xinhuanactually an addon is either on wowace or curseforge, never both
21:59.27Xinhuanboth sites are running the same backend
21:59.38Galvinhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/postal.aspx I cant find the option to download with no libs
21:59.58Xinhuanhere
22:00.00Xinhuanhttp://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/
22:00.10XinhuanGalvin, click on the Files tab
22:00.13Galvinsweet
22:00.49Xinhuanerr also don't use curse.com
22:01.01Galvinoh?
22:01.04Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/postal/
22:01.06Xinhuanlook here instead
22:01.16Xinhuanthen see files tab
22:01.35Galvinso my addon can never appear on this site since I did it with curseforge?
22:01.44Xinhuanyeah
22:02.04Xinhuanbut its like 2 clicks (with a moderator) to switch an addon between wowace/cf
22:03.02Galvinyeah I like wowace it has a few things curseforge doesn't like packager status.
22:03.20nevcairielthe pages are the same, just a different skin
22:03.37Galvinhmm I couldn't find the packager thing on curseforge. let me check again.
22:03.48Xinhuanjust use the same link, but replace the domain name
22:04.11nevcairielits even the same packager :p
22:04.39Xinhuanthe CF and wowace forums are also the same forum/forum db
22:04.49Xinhuanonly the skin is different based on domain
22:05.00Galvinahh ok I see
22:05.10Xinhuanalso i think only an admin can switch addons between cf/wowace, not a mod
22:05.11Xinhuanheh
22:05.14Galvinnever looked deeply into this till the other day.
22:05.44Galvinbut I used wowace more than curseforge when downloading addons. Ive always flipped between the two as well.
22:05.47Axodiousso
22:05.53Axodiousthey havent turned on threat decay... yet
22:05.59Axodiousmight not even bother
22:06.10Xinhuanthreat decay?
22:06.29Galvinthreat decay and tanking dont sound good
22:06.32Axodiousthere was a couple posts a while ago talking about "threat decay" it's just what it sounds like
22:06.35Axodioushttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26859270372/blizzard-s-stated-intention-for-cata-tanks/
22:07.37Axodiousit's funny though seeing the mention abouth ow you should have to pay attention to your rotations, then turning to paladins and saying "we dont like your rotation"
22:08.01nevcairielXinhuan: the whole addon chat category isnt shown on the CF forums :d
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22:08.23Galvinthe no lib toc and the lib toc look the same I think
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22:08.33Xinhuanwell i don't know what voodoo they did to hide one subsection of the forums from the other domain
22:08.43Xinhuanbut "view new posts" and "view today's posts" etc see them all anyway
22:09.31Galvinno need to optional dep libstub?
22:09.42nevcairielno
22:10.06Galvinwhat about acegui shared media wigdets or is that included as part of ace3 ?
22:10.29Xinhuanthere's no lib to optdep libstub only because you already optdep ace3
22:10.35Xinhuanand ace3 comes with libstub
22:10.40Galvinahh right
22:10.42Xinhuanno need* grr
22:10.50Xinhuanso as you can see Postal's toc
22:10.58Xinhuanit only optdeps like... ace3
22:11.01Galvinyeah thats why I was asking cause i didn't see it in there
22:11.03Xinhuanand not much else
22:11.21GalvinI also use libsharedmedia so I would want that in ther to as optional dep./
22:11.21vhaarrSharedMediaWidgets is not part of Ace3
22:11.32vhaarrneither is LSM
22:11.34Galvinso ok so I got 3 to optional-tiz
22:11.37Galvintize
22:11.40Xinhuanomen's one looks like this
22:11.41Xinhuan## OptionalDeps: Ace3, LibSharedMedia-3.0, AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets, LibSink-2.0, LibDBIcon-1.0, !ClassColors
22:11.55Galvinyeah those first 3 i'll haev to add.
22:12.11Galvinhell I just cut and paste that from here :)
22:13.42GalvinI do love having the packager doing all the work of adding libs into the zip.
22:13.59Xinhuanthe easiest way to learn is to see how an existing addon does it
22:14.17Xinhuanso don't be afraid to svn checkout other addons
22:14.21Xinhuanor browse code
22:15.19Xinhuanbeta server down!
22:15.21Xinhuanfor restarts
22:15.38GalvinYeah I been  doing that as well. it was really hard doing that when learning the libs cause addons have so much code tied around it its hard to tell whast going on.
22:16.03Xinhuanthen start reading the code in the libs lol
22:16.13Xinhuanace3 libs are generally very small (except acegui/config)
22:16.59GalvinLooking at these simple replacements, i want to automate the version number and take it from svn. so which one would I use @project-revision@ or @file-revision@ or @project-revision@
22:17.12Galvinthe libs are small but learning how they work wasn't so easy.
22:17.41Galvinbut once I learned enough I could learn more from looking at code just needed enough knowledge first.
22:17.48Xinhuani normally number my addon versioning manually, rather than using the svn revision number
22:18.44Galvinso you just look to see what the next revision number will be and use that. I'm sure dxe using svn version numbers?
22:19.01Xinhuanits author preference at this point
22:19.05vhaarrmany addons use svn version numbers
22:19.12vhaarrversion numbers will always be the authors preference
22:19.16vhaarrnot just at this point :P
22:19.36Galvinproblem is the tag isn't a number so if I use the raw toc file its going to pull a tag for version instead of a number.
22:19.50Xinhuansee postal's tag?
22:19.54Galvinand I use the raw toc file in my addons folder since its the addon I work on.
22:20.03Xinhuanthe tag is named "v3.3.2" i think
22:20.35Xinhuanso it generates some zip file called Postal-v3.3.2.zip or something like that
22:20.47Galvin## Version: 3.3.2 is th only version i see
22:20.57vhaarrbecause you downloaded the zip file
22:20.57Xinhuanthat number is manual
22:21.02vhaarror that
22:21.10Xinhuani actually do have 3.3.2 typed manually in the raw file
22:21.26Xinhuanso i update the TOC to the right number, then i tag that number
22:21.48Galvincan tags actually include a number from svn too?
22:22.18Xinhuankey it in manually, sure
22:22.18vhaarryou know the revision of your repo, so just do +1 in the tag
22:22.30GalvinWhen I made by beta tag I looked at my repository for the highest number at the time and used that as rN-beta
22:22.32Xinhuani think you know how to use branches and tags in svn right?
22:22.52vhaarryeah but when you commit the tag it will be +1
22:22.53Xinhuanso the folder name that you copy the tag to in /tags/ is the name
22:23.00Xinhuanso if you're on r456
22:23.04Galvinwell I read on branches its a way to make a new peice of code but not have it messing up the main.
22:23.10Xinhuanyou can just tag it as "r457" to be r457
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22:23.49vhaarra tag is just a identifyable name for a revision
22:23.54Xinhuanversion numbers is largely an author thing
22:23.58Galvintags and branch look like folders and tag has my beta in it.
22:24.19vhaarrI don't see why you are bothering with this if you are still learning the libraries and such
22:24.23Xinhuanin svn (and only in svn), tags and branches are actually the same thing
22:24.33vhaarr## Version: Beta
22:24.34vhaarrdone
22:24.46Galvinaddon is already written and being tested.
22:24.55vhaarr## Version: 1
22:24.59vhaarrnext rewrite
22:25.01vhaarr## Version: 2
22:25.25Xinhuani have an addon that follows the toc number heh
22:25.29vhaarrthere's nothing sensible to put there
22:25.31Xinhuan## Version: 30300
22:25.33Xinhuan## Version: 30301
22:25.36Xinhuanand so on
22:25.38vhaarrit's not sensible to discuss it either
22:25.47Xinhuanbut that's an old relic
22:25.51vhaarr## Version: YYYY-MM-DD
22:25.51GalvinI never used nolib actually. I do rememebr long ass time ago when we had to install libs first before using addons then the embbedded stuff came in, so was checking it out.
22:26.07Galvinthanks
22:26.18Xinhuanthe curse client recognizes no-lib preferences
22:26.37Xinhuanand will install the libraries as standalone addons (based on pkgmeta)
22:27.42Galvinyeah added the tags and changeed pkgmeta so this should work.
22:28.00Xinhuanultimately, you want a fresh wow installation with no addons
22:28.03Xinhuanthen test both zips
22:28.25Xinhuanthe nolib zip would require u to manually install dependencies
22:28.42Galvinyeah
22:28.49Xinhuanwhile develeoping the addon, your addon should already be in a no-lib state anyway
22:29.07Xinhuansince you don't actually want to have the libs committed in your addon
22:29.24Xinhuanthe old method was to use svn:externals
22:29.43Xinhuanto bring it those libs into subfolders (traditionally the Libs/ subfolder, you can name it anything you want)
22:30.25Xinhuanthere's some special considerations if you use libs that are not hosted on wowace/cf
22:30.49Xinhuanthe pkgmeta can point to off-site svn locations, but anything off-site will always be packaged in the zip, lib or no-lib
22:31.20Galvinoh I read something about the externals
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22:54.04Galvintesting with no libs got every addon disabled but mine and the libs. But getting this error: Message: ...Widgets\AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets\prototypes.lua:15: Cannot find a library instance of "AceGUI-3.0".
23:02.37TorhalGalvin: Then you're not specifying that Ace3 is an OptionalDep
23:05.20Galvini have this in my .toc ## OptionalDeps: Ace3, LibSharedMedia-3.0, AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
23:06.42TorhalGalvin: Then you're not defining a local reference to AceGUI-3.0 in your code/
23:07.35hasteor he isn't including the core part of acegui-3.0
23:07.43hasteonly sharedmediawidgets
23:07.46GalvinIm lost
23:08.03GalvinI just wanted to test the no libs I normally use embedded.
23:08.15Galvinthese errors are coming from the libs not my addon.
23:08.30Galvinall i did was copy past all my embeds to addon folder.
23:08.47Stanzillaload order maybe?
23:09.18TorhalGalvin: Oh
23:09.38TorhalThat makes perfect sense then. You need to download the standalone versions of the libs (they'll have their own ToC and be proper AddOns)
23:10.32Galvinahh ok
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23:16.52GalvinI think they are installed as an addon. when I downloaded the libs they all came with a .toc file.
23:16.59GalvinI see this in the addon list.
23:21.53GalvinI think I see the problem
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23:31.33Galvinwoo hoo no errros test passed :)
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