IRC log for #wowace on 20100916

00:01.55ckknightk
00:01.59ckknightmore power to you, then
00:02.21ckknightI kinda would like to add mob ID support to LibBabble-Boss-3.0
00:02.26ckknightle sigh
00:03.53doom0rhmm, anyone have any opinion of any particular software like readitlater or instapaper?
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00:10.47ccKepjust out of interest: did they change unit GUIDs in cata?
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00:11.12gtsafasThis data structure in the SavedVariables.lua
00:11.13gtsafaswhat is it
00:11.16gtsafasI am new to lua
00:11.21Torhalgtsafas: A Lua table.
00:11.33gtsafasWhat is the method used to reimport this to Lua?
00:11.36TorhalWith, optionally, embedded tables.
00:11.46gtsafaslike a hash in a has
00:11.48gtsafashash*
00:12.00ccKepits plain lua itself
00:12.00TorhalRe-import?
00:12.08Humbedoohin-game import or outside import?
00:12.19gtsafasingame
00:12.24HumbedoohWoW does that for you
00:12.28gtsafashow do I tell it to read saved variables (im new to all this)
00:12.32gtsafasit does it automatically?
00:12.36Humbedoohye
00:12.44Humbedoohyou just keep using the same old vars as if they never went away
00:12.46TorhalYour AddOn's ToC has to have a line like this:
00:13.02gtsafasyeah whats the api call
00:13.03Torhal## SavedVariables: MySavedVariablesTableName
00:13.35TorhalJust look at the ToC of an AddOn you know has SavedVariables, then look for the Sv name in the AddOn's code
00:13.41TorhalThat'll show you how
00:13.41gtsafaswhat is MySavedVariablesTableName? is that This["object"]?
00:13.48gtsafasok
00:13.57Humbedoohit's just a simple dofile() I guess
00:14.19Torhalstabs Humbedooh with irrelevant nomenclature.
00:14.44gtsafasok ty
00:14.49Humbedoohstabs Torhal with a pleonastic tautology.
00:15.06ccKepits just been mobid = tonumber(GUID:sub(9,12),16) wasn't it?
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00:16.06HumbedoohI never bothered with the whole number conversion
00:16.45ccKepeither its a fault in my macro or they changed the position for mob ids in the GUID
00:17.01Humbedoohgimme an example guid from cata then
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00:17.19ccKep0xF130A9AE000084E6
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00:17.31ccKepits 7-10
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00:17.52Humbedoohthey moved it :\
00:17.57ccKepye
00:18.23Humbedoohhmm
00:19.43HumbedoohTamable Tallstrider or Corborus?
00:19.53ccKepcorborus ;)
00:20.01HumbedoohA9AE is your man then
00:20.17ccKepyeah, 7-10^
00:20.42ccKepjust wanted to know if there's anything known here as to what happened to GUIDs
00:20.48Humbedoohgood to know - I gots things to update for cata then
00:21.05Humbedoohhmm well mayhaps they ran out of space
00:22.57Parnichttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/mayhaps ;) </pedantry>
00:23.24Humbedoohyou forgot <pedantry>
00:23.34Parnictrue.
00:24.11HumbedoohUp next; per say!
00:24.20Humbedoohfollowed by: Guestimate!
00:24.55Humbedoohand let's end with; A nother!
00:25.03Parnica WHOLE nother!
00:25.07Humbedoohyes!
00:25.25Humbedoohhalf a nother would be cruel
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00:41.52doom0rhuggles Groktar
00:43.10ccKepckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/2454/ (hearthstone is on cooldown atm, halls of origination has doors I cant walk through... lost city of tol'vir + vortex pinnacle might be possible though, gotta wait a few minutes for hearth)
00:43.46ckknightwant me to just add you as an author?
00:43.47ckknight:P
00:43.56ccKepdont want to mess anything up ;)
00:44.14ckknightk
00:45.13ccKepmight as well wait a few minutes before commiting, hearthstone only takes another 10m
00:45.50ccKeplost city should definately be possible to get the IDs, vortex pinnacle I don't know if the teleportation-cyclones are usable without the bosses being dead
00:46.28ccKepbut since they're both in uldum I 'll just try both
00:47.40Repo10libbossids-1-0: 03ckknight * r46 LibBossIDs-1.0.lua: Add some Cataclysm bosses courtesy of ccKep
00:47.42ccKep(running through grim batol made me chuckle at the amount of trash packs in there)
00:47.51ccKepso much for waiting a few minutes :P
00:49.00Nivgrim batol trash is hilarious
00:49.21Nivalthough someone was claiming that you weren't intended to be clearing them all directly, that some vehicle was unimplemented
00:49.27NivI haven't been able to confirm that though
00:49.35ccKepthe vehicles are implemented
00:49.37Nivyou can fly to the first boss atm though :)
00:49.41Nivoh really?
00:49.49ccKepyou get to rescue 5 ruby dragons at the entrance
00:49.55ccKepend then everyone can mount one
00:49.57Nivah, wasn't last time I was tehre
00:50.04Nivwe had to clear all the trash
00:50.04ccKepthey fly a pre-defined path and you can trow bombs
00:50.13ccKep*throw
00:50.23Nivmaybe I'll try it out again then
00:50.37Nivthe run/fly back still sucks though :)
00:50.41ccKepthough it needs some coordination to really clear the packs, since they'll just regen to full hp if you dont manage to kill the mobs
00:51.06ccKepI think they fixed flying in instances with the latest patch
00:51.19ccKepgetting dismounted when flying into an instance again^
00:52.04NivI must have missed a patch then
00:52.27ccKep12942 or something like that its atm ^.^
00:52.43NivI'm still at work, can't check
00:52.51ccKepaye, 2:52 AM here :D
00:53.01Niv5:52pm :)
00:54.06ccKeptime travel for dummies, it rly worxx!
00:55.39ccKepis the could prince in vortex pinnacle a boss? ^.^
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00:57.26ccKep(to answer myself: nop)
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00:58.41HPTanyone else playing have their server just go down
00:58.42HPTout of nowhere
00:58.50Parnicmine's up
00:58.58HPTya most are still up
00:59.15HPTabout 10 us servers offline now. mine just dc'ed me with no warning
01:01.01Parnici changed characters and got stuck on the loading screen
01:02.09Parnicfinally loaded
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01:15.36ccKepsomeone done vortex pinnacle recently?
01:18.10ccKepHumbedooh: ping
01:25.28Repo10libbossids-1-0: 03ckknight * r47 LibBossIDs-1.0.lua: More Cataclysm bosses (thanks to ccKep)
01:28.13PrimerAddOns will be enabled in Cataclysm Beta with next Patch!</topic>
01:28.17PrimerI thought that was already done
01:28.26PrimerTopic is stale?
01:29.06ccKepthey are enabled^
01:29.09pompyPrimer: ya noone changed it
01:29.24pompyckknight ^
01:29.24Primerthanks
01:29.36PrimerI wonder if we'll finally get elevation data for addons
01:30.00ShefkiPrimer: I wouldn't expect to get that ever.
01:30.10ckknightpompy: you change it.
01:30.25ckknightoh, hey, Shefki
01:30.48pompyckknight:  :P if i only could
01:31.22*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://twitter.com/WowAcecom | http://lua.org | Curse Client v4: http://www.curse.com/client | WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23 | AddOns are enabled in Cataclysm Beta!
01:31.23PrimerShefki: why?
01:31.58PrimerWe get the X and Y...why not the Z?
01:32.01ShefkiThey don't want us to be able to calculate everything about the environment.
01:32.47ShefkiHiding z makes it significantly harder to write a bot.
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01:36.39pompyHPT: you on the vindication or ruin battlegroup?
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01:40.43HPTi dont know
01:40.46HPTim on thunderlord
01:40.55HPThow do you tell which battlegroup
01:43.45HPTpompy: vindication bg i guess
01:44.39pompyThe realms of the Ruin and Vindication Battlegroups are currently experiencing  some technical issues. Due to this, players on the affected realms may be  disconnected or experience latency. The issues are being addressed and will be  resolved as soon as possible.
01:44.59ckknightfree kittens for everyone!
01:45.29doom0rif they work and buy their own food, feed themself and empty their own litterbox
01:47.55ccKepbeta realm restart in 5min :(
01:49.30HPToh nice. they just put that message up
01:50.39pompyHPT:  40 minutes ago, yeah
01:51.14HPThm may the little message doesnt update unless you log out
01:51.56pompyHPT:  http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert could always check this too
01:52.21HPTthats kind of cool
01:53.31HPTtime to play some league of legends til they fix that
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02:09.54HjalteHow do you get the tech master achievements etc when you've completed the campaign?
02:12.28Repo10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r45 wTaskNote.lua: add profile management to the options menu
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02:27.18Antiarchttp://i.imgur.com/jacoj.jpg
02:31.39Repo10gnomexcel: 03Humbedooh * r19 Gnomexcel.lua: Nothing much, just updating them libraries and cleaning up.
02:34.24doom0rgnomexcel eh? does it support odf?
02:34.57Humbedoohnaw
02:35.07Humbedoohjust csv,xml and boring html tables
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02:42.32Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r591 modules (9 files in 1 directory):
02:42.33Repo- fixed up several "hide blizzard frame" options to re-display when the module is disabled and to call blizzard's OnLoad for the frame instead of manually entering every event to re-register
02:42.34Repo- fixed "show incoming heals" option to be properly toggleable on 4.0 (bad conditional on the 'disabled' option)
02:42.35Repo- hid "cooldown mode" option on the totems module since there was never more than one choice
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03:02.29Repo10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 413f1b8 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
03:02.31Repo413f1b8: Added survey spell id
03:02.32Repo2c5272a: Added in Archaeology as a new type for GatherMate tracking. All stubs right now, still missing
03:03.22Mikk@describe gnomexcel
03:03.23RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomexcel/. Gnomexcel. Gnomish math at its best!
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03:03.33gtsafasThe savedVariables what kind of structure is that?
03:04.00Mikkoh fuck me, someone actually did a proper sheet?
03:04.04Mikklibrary i mean
03:04.11gtsafasfor what
03:04.32Mikkhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomexcel/images/12-gnomexcel-screenshot/
03:04.56nebula@describe LibSpreadsheet
03:04.57Reponebula: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/libspreadsheet/. LibSpreadsheet. Spreadsheet extravaganza
03:05.00gtsafaslol
03:05.16Repo10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory):
03:05.17Repofixing up pkgmeta and embeds, trying to make sure that we request everything that we need
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03:05.56gtsafasSo that savedVariables file what is the name of the data structure in Lua?
03:06.01Mikkhm.. yikes.. a bit more than i'd want for just a scrolling sheet
03:06.22Mikkgtsafas: how do you mean? where the file lives?
03:06.35gtsafasNo, its almost like a hash table
03:06.44Mikkit's a table
03:06.49Mikkstandard Lua table
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03:06.54gtsafascool
03:06.58Mikkwhich of course you can have more tables inside if you want
03:07.00gtsafasthanks, sorry dont do lua until just now
03:07.14Mikkand yeah a lua table can be both a hash and an indexed list at the same time
03:07.25Mikkthey're funny and handy like that =)
03:07.32gtsafasSimiliar to perl hash's
03:08.19Mikkinterestingly, the global namespace is also a table
03:08.27Mikk... which you can retreive a ref to and have fun with if you like :P
03:09.49gtsafashrmm
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03:15.53quiescenso.o
03:16.37quiescensI can't think of any particularly good reason to allow something to be both an indexed list thingy and a hash table at the same time
03:17.12quiescensall that happens is that people end up trying to use the indexed list traversals on them and end up wondering why it misses half the elements
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03:20.42nebulaits not really that is both, its that it can be anything you want it to be, and you can iterate through it however you want
03:45.31Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r131 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ticket 41 - Fixed a bug that occured if you created items without ever opening /ia crafting.
04:02.23Repo10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 20e8f23 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added in all the archaeology finds, we will just use teh soil icon for them with a gold ring.
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04:14.50Yssarilkagaro: are archeology "nodes" fixed or random in an area?
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04:48.27Repo10vanas-kos: 03Raelea * r468 / (2 files in 2 directories):
04:48.29Repo- FriendsFrame_SetButton is gone in 40000 and replaced by FriendsFrame_UpdateFriends as far as I can tell.  Added conditionals to hook one or the other depending on the version of WoW.  Added some new code to deal with how UpdateFriends gets its work done.
04:48.30Repo- Fixed some additional getglobal calls
04:48.35Repo- Set X-Compatible-With 40000
04:49.04Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r132 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ticket 40 - Added options to enable counting guild bank inventory.
04:49.09Repo10xperl: 03PlayerLin * r374 / (34 files in 15 directories):
04:49.11RepoBasic Cataclysm client compatibility, like LUA code and spellIDs etc. (Thanks Joddie and mysticalos, maybe still needed more test and fixes.)
04:49.12RepoFixed bar texture squished bug in health bar, mana bar and other bars.
04:49.13RepoFixed texture squished bug in casting bar(XPerl_ArcaneBar).
04:49.48Repo10loggerhead: 03rsmozang * r108 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
04:49.50RepoALERT! This version blows away your current DB.  You have been warned!
04:49.51RepoChanges:
04:49.53Repo- removed LibTourist dependency:  No more waiting to have is updated when a patch comes out and no more listening to it's maintainer bitch at me when I check updates into it.
04:49.53Repo- removed LibBabble-Zone dependency: see above
04:49.54Parnicshocked at 4.0.1 streaming already on live
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06:22.45Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar * r57 / (3 files in 1 directory):
06:22.47RepoMTarget: Change the output on failure to write if in combat to be a debug message - otherwise this'll be spammed in combat if you are using the raid icons support.
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06:28.08sbuoh, bg downloader...
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06:35.00doom0rso, fubar really is just on life support for the future? no replacements?
06:38.05Elkanoreplacements for fubar? anything with LDB support...
06:38.30doom0ri didn't mean alternatives, i meant successors
06:38.57doom0rthere's some decent alternatives, fubar from a user viewpoint was the most candy
06:42.19Yssarildoom0r: LDB is the successor to fubar as it replaces it as the standard for display data sharing
06:42.47Torhaldoom0r: Bazooka is an LDB display that's pretty damned close to FuBar
06:42.54Yssarilalso enables you to use any LDB display you want instead of being locked to fubar
06:43.35nebulahey, they was titanpanel, too!
06:43.37nebulathere*
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06:44.00asmodaiI don't even use fubar anymore
06:44.05Yssarilfubar was always better than titan though and LDB is better than both :P
06:44.18asmodaiReplaced it all with ldb stuff using Bazooka
06:44.22nebulatruth
06:44.43nebulaI use fotress, was never a big fan of the top/bottom bar
06:44.46doom0rlast i played most of the broker based displays sucked
06:44.57nebulafortress, even
06:45.02doom0rseems some are pretty comparable to options of fubar now
06:45.07Torhaldoom0r: Last you played was well over a year ago :)
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06:45.22asmodainebula: I tried Fortress for a while, but it has issues with layout at times.
06:45.23doom0rTorhal: thanks, i probably wouldn't have looked at bazooka again
06:45.34asmodaieven locked down my ldb buttons/panels would end up all over the place.
06:45.43asmodaiBazooka certainly scratches my itch well.
06:45.57asmodaiAnd I'm a whiner. Just ask Torhal :P
06:46.03ElkanoYssaril, but iirc TP does support LDB while FB doesn't ^^
06:46.04nebulai've never had layout issues
06:46.07TorhalI used to advocate DockingStation until it had a serious flaw that the author said he'd fix and 9 months later it wasn't.
06:46.26TorhalMost everything I prodded mitch0 over about Bazooka, he included/changed.
06:46.27asmodaiTorhal: surprised you managed to hold off for 9 month
06:46.36asmodaiyeah, mitch0 <3
06:46.40Torhalasmodai: I didn't. Just saying how long before he fixed it.
06:46.47asmodaiTorhal: oh, lol, hahahaha
06:46.50YssarilElkano: technically fubar can with LDBtoFubar (i would still stay away from titan though)
06:47.07doom0rya, even with the popularity of this generation of TP and it's upkeep, i'm reluctant, once i got away from the original i never wanted to near it again
06:47.29Elkanotrue Yssaril, still I rather use FuBar2Broker and a real LDB display ^^
06:47.34Torhaldoom0r: TP is still a maximum of two non-movable bars.
06:47.38nebulaisn't TP just another broker display now?
06:47.58Torhalnebula: No, it has a built-in LDB2FuBar-type thinger.
06:48.03nebulaah
06:48.05YssarilElkano: or simply find the appropriate LDB addons and ditch fubar2broker
06:48.05doom0ri saw that, not that that's probably more than i need, if i can stop myself from going to 3 again
06:48.06TorhalIt still uses its own plugin system
06:48.07nebulathat's kind of gross
06:48.07asmodaiElkano: That be a good statement :)
06:48.13asmodaiYssaril: Or that. :)
06:48.17VonhintenI use Fortress and switched all mods to LDB, works great for me
06:48.29asmodaidoesn't think he has any Fubar stuff.
06:48.44ElkanoYssaril, well, there are a few addons I'd miss and a few of my own stuff :P
06:48.50VonhintenI did have to hack it locally to get it to do exactly what I wanted (margin/height related), but it works great
06:49.11YssarilElkano: which ones are you missing that arent your own?
06:49.24nebulaTrainerFu is really the last fubar addon I use, but I hacked together a broker object for it
06:49.56ElkanoExpirienceFu and GarbageFu
06:50.07TorhalI started an LDB from-scratch version of TrainerFu, then realized I was following the original broken paradigm and dropped it
06:50.16nebulaDropTheCheapestThing for GarabageFu
06:50.16asmodaiElkano: grrr -- Broker_AllXP
06:50.21Vonhintenpicoxp
06:50.24asmodaiFrom our own Zhinjio
06:50.25nebulayea torhal, i saw that, lol
06:50.57Vonhintennot sure what garbagefu does, but I use SellJunk
06:51.03Elkanoand for FriendsFu, GuildFu and FactionFu, I'm already running LDB versions, too ^^
06:51.11TorhalElkano: GIEF
06:51.12nebulaclick it to drop junk when you bags fill up
06:51.17nebulaor auto-drop, etc
06:51.40doom0rgarbagefu is a tail like display for junk, with a few options on what to drop on click
06:51.43Torhalnebula: I don't need any such AddOn - I has Traveler's Tundra Mammoth.
06:51.43Vonhintencan't say I need that.. I'd just hit a merchant and click Sell Junk
06:51.54Elkanoat least for guild and faction... friends shares most of guilds code so I'll do that after guild... and after I added support for multiple tables to qtip
06:52.06nebulanot when you're leveling a new alt ;[
06:52.22VonhintenI don't pick shit up on my lowbies
06:52.25Vonhintenslows leveling
06:52.33TorhalElkano: Multiple tables, eh? Are we still duplicating Tablet features in a smaller footprint? :)
06:52.38nebulamy ocd demands sparkles stop
06:52.41Vonhintenlol
06:52.47asmodaigarbagefu -> dropthecheapestthing
06:53.05Vonhintenthe unitemized beta zones must really get your goat :)
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06:53.27nebulaoh i loot all dem empty corpses
06:53.30TorhalActually, I do use DropTheCheapestThing when I'm on solo Stratholm runs trying to get that damn mount.
06:53.48doom0rdoes DTCT allow you to manually select an item from teh list?
06:53.52doom0ror only the cheapest?
06:54.06asmodaimanually
06:54.06nebulathe shift-click drop thing is just the cheapest
06:54.16ElkanoTorhal, that's pretty much the only usefull thing that's still missing... trying to use colspans to solve that still f**ks up the layout :/
06:54.21Torhaldoom0r: Why would you want to drop the most expensive? :)
06:54.22nebulashows a list of them, though
06:54.30VonhintenI need to do a serious house cleaning of addons, even loading from an SSD drive, all those addons I have running takes too fucking long to load
06:54.30nebulaif you wanted to drop something else
06:54.54TorhalElkano: Bleargh.
06:54.56doom0rTorhal: wouldn't, but there is exceptions
06:55.00asmodaiRandom sidenote: 1 week to Civ 5
06:55.18quiescensmoo
06:55.26asmodaimooooo quiescens
06:55.31ckknightasmodai: I got it preordered ;-)
06:55.37asmodaickknight: Same here <3
06:55.38TorhalGoddamn, I wish gcc would finish compiling already so I can see if my X server has stopped killing my mouse/keyboard when I start it
06:55.48asmodaiclang > gcc :P
06:56.00doom0rVonhinten: send me your ssd and you'll be forced to start over, nice and clean ;x
06:56.11quiescenswhy are you killing your mouse
06:56.13Zhinjiois glad *someone*'s using allxp, anyway.
06:56.14Zhinjioheh
06:56.21Zhinjiosometimes I wonder if I'm the only one using my addons
06:56.22Torhalquiescens: It mooed at me.
06:56.28asmodaiZhinjio: nope
06:56.30ZhinjioTorhal: Foof.
06:56.34TorhalZhinjio: Yay!
06:56.38asmodaiZhinjio: I pestered you with some feature requests months ago
06:56.42asmodaiZhinjio: You implemented them.
06:56.43Zhinjiogrins
06:56.49asmodaiZhinjio: So yeah. Now I'm quiet. :(
06:56.51Vonhintennot a chance!  Though I'm tempted by these new SSD's with DRAM in them, getting insane write speeds
06:56.54Zhinjioyeah, I'm trying to go through and update 'em all
06:57.02TorhalZhinjio: You need to become prescient - the Echo Isles event really fucked up HitCrit :P
06:57.04Zhinjioget rid of bugs and add in requested features
06:57.07asmodaiZhinjio: Thought I use 1 or 2 ohers of yours.
06:57.22asmodaiI use Torhal's broker_currency
06:57.25ZhinjioI haven't tested hitcrit in beta yet
06:57.36asmodaiZhinjio: broker_extractor, that will require some updating come Cata
06:57.41Zhinjiothats for sure
06:57.47asmodaiZhinjio: Also broker_tradecooldowns
06:57.53ZhinjioI'm working on tradecooldowns right now
06:57.57Zhinjioalready have the tailoring ones in
06:58.01Torhalasmodai: Actually, that's Toadkiller's based on ckknight's code - I just contributed to it and update it when they add new currencies
06:58.03VonhintenAltaholic does trade cooldowns for me
06:58.13Zhinjiofinally got the automatic detection of the cooldown spellcast in
06:58.17Zhinjiowhich is 99% working now
06:58.17asmodaiVonhinten: Just more clicks :)
06:58.18TorhalZhinjio: Noice.
06:58.25asmodaiZhinjio: schweet
06:58.25ZhinjioI still have one edge case that is giving me fits
06:58.28doom0ri don't suppose the curse client offers local copy storing and version selection?
06:58.35Torhaldoom0r: It does.
06:58.44TorhalThough, since I'm on Linux I can't use it.
06:58.46Torhal:D
06:59.13TorhalThey finally killed CCv3 - the window appears, doesn't get populated, and the program terminates.
06:59.21ZhinjioI'm actually trying to test that edge case right now. putting in a whole mess of debug prints and then going to go transmute a cardinal ruby
06:59.23Zhinjioor something
06:59.30ZhinjioI'm running out of cooldowns to test with
06:59.42TorhalZhinjio: Make guildies waste theirs!
07:00.00doom0rTorhal: i see nowhere how to accomplish it, nor it listed in features
07:00.08ZhinjioTorhal: yeah. I've been trying
07:00.21Zhinjiolittle bastards seem to always have better things to do
07:00.50Torhaldoom0r: Unfortunately, it's by-project. Right-click something.
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07:01.29asmodaiSteam update:
07:01.31asmodaiAdded support to update AMD/ATI video drivers
07:01.49asmodaiLooks like they're building up a 'fixit' system.
07:02.25TorhalOk, I'm about to lock my machine up again...maybe...
07:02.31asmodaiTorhal: don't do it!
07:02.37ckknighthttp://i52.tinypic.com/2z5kguv.png
07:03.16asmodaickknight: Dexter grown up?
07:03.37ckknightit's like a mashup of Dexter and Dexter's Lab
07:03.38AeyanDexter as HBO's Dexter
07:03.46asmodaiAh, never saw HBO's
07:04.47ZhinjioI blame Torhal
07:05.00Torhalasmodai: I didn't. X actually didn't disable my keyboard/mouse this time.
07:05.17doom0rhmmm, all i get is "Install or Update" or "View Addon Website"
07:05.26asmodaiTorhal: using libxcb?
07:05.46Zhinjiook, so
07:05.53Torhalasmodai: No. Somehow evdev wasn't compatible with my new X server so I had to re-compile it
07:05.58Zhinjiohow do I detect if a tradeskill window is open?
07:06.06Zhinjiopreviously, I thought I could chcek against GetNumTradeSkills() == 0
07:06.13Zhinjioif it is 0, it isn't open
07:06.16Zhinjiobut that ain't workin'
07:06.24TorhalZhinjio: TRADE_SKILL_OPEN, perhaps?
07:06.31Zhinjiono
07:06.40Zhinjioer
07:06.41Zhinjiowell
07:06.43Zhinjioyes, and no
07:06.56TorhalMake a variable that contains the state which is set on those events.
07:07.03Zhinjioyeah *cry*
07:07.18ZhinjioI guess I have to
07:07.21TorhalYup.
07:08.42mitch0it's not _that_ evil
07:09.13Torhalmitch0: Tell that to the poor variable that keeps getting flipped.
07:09.37mitch0better than the poor sods that are declared but never actually used :P
07:12.40ckknighthttp://i51.tinypic.com/2ziajv6.jpg
07:14.06ZhinjioBLUE TEAM GO
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07:18.34Zhinjioasmodai: got any skills on cooldown that I can test with quick?
07:18.39ZhinjioI can push a new alpha for you
07:18.42Zhinjioif you can
07:20.03Zhinjioif not, no biggie.  it just waits until tmw
07:21.57Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r70 Broker_TradeCooldowns.lua: - another attempt at proper cooldown cast detection
07:26.43TorhalZhinjio: What, exactly, do you need?
07:26.55TorhalSomething to be on cooldown before using the new version?
07:27.55doom0rwhere does one report addons clearly marked in categories they have no business being in on curse?
07:29.26asmodaiZhinjio: Mmm, nope sorry
07:29.55Zhinjios'ok. Torhal's got one for me, sounds like
07:30.18Torhaldoom0r: Me, Ackis, Kaelten...
07:31.12doom0rSie Cancel and Quick Auctions Poster are in tradeskill specific categories when they are only auction house addons
07:31.51quiescensare you mixing up your languages again
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07:32.02nebulathey help sell your tradeskill goods, though !
07:32.04quiescensone language per line please
07:32.08doom0renglish and only english
07:32.22doom0rthat's their listed names on curse ;x
07:32.23quiescenssure sure
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07:39.20Zhinjiohmm, thats not a good sign
07:39.25Zhinjiomaybe I broke him
07:39.27Zhinjioheh
07:39.30asmodailol
07:41.27quiescenshe's been doing that for weeks or more
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07:41.52quiescenstime to get a new piece of string for the two tin cans
07:42.12Zhinjiommmm, kate beckinsdale
07:42.36Zhinjiowas that my out loud voice?
07:43.10doom0ri had to google her
07:43.48Kalrothkate in a tight latex suit is alright!
07:44.42Zhinjioor being taken out of her tight latex suit, as the case may be
07:47.08doom0rhmm, i unchecked "Enable simple tooltips" in Bazooka and it didn't give me a smarter tooltip on what it does =\
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07:48.32mitch0it adds a tooltip with just the plugin name to plugins that don't provide any tooltip at all
07:48.45mitch0also, hovering over while alt is pressed only shows this simplified tooltip
07:49.17quiescensmoo
07:49.35doom0rya, i'm reading the feature list now ;x
07:49.49mitch0it's longish ;)
07:51.05doom0rfirst, i gotta get an offline page viewer so i don't keep going and finding pages for such
07:51.33mitch0?
07:52.08doom0reither i'll bookmark stuff and never look at it, or forget to go check something again and waste time finding the page
07:52.23doom0rneed to just start d/l'ing the pages i need to go back to
07:52.29mitch0ah
07:52.55doom0rjust haven't got around to comparing whats out there, only ones i've really heard of are instapaper and read it later
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07:57.02Zhinjioand on that note, its time for bed. Hopefully Torhal didn't electrocute himself on his LinuxBoxen
07:57.07Zhinjiopeace y'all
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08:09.23evlApple icon top left |about this mac
08:09.37Kalrothwhy so evl
08:10.17evlwrong window
08:10.19evl:)
08:10.31evlKalroth: now die!
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08:13.07Kalroth:(
08:16.14doom0riirc ui scale is limited to .64?
08:21.24haste.64 is the lowest the slider goes
08:21.30hasteyou can put it lower manually howeve
08:21.32haster
08:21.53doom0rso i read, but doesn't seem to be making any effect
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09:39.52asmodaiholy moly
09:40.06sylvanaar_atworkwat
09:40.06asmodaisomeone recreated the white tower of Gondor  in Minecraft
09:40.13sylvanaar_atworklol
09:40.57asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogA9Bhh4luA  2:23
09:41.40asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7UKLCNYjw
09:41.42asmodaithat's the one
09:41.49sylvanaar_atworki love the sheep
09:42.01SunTsu"This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country." DIAF Sony
09:42.27asmodaiSunTsu: the last one?
09:42.40asmodaiseriously, people sure get creative
09:42.43SunTsuasmodai: the first one, but ot still holds true
09:43.56asmodaiyea
09:44.51asmodaiis impressed by that construction
09:44.51Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r53 / (2 files in 1 directory): Deadly Brew added as a single target slow.
09:44.53RepoHealing-related announcements should now be properly ignored if "Ignore extra raid members" option is enabled.
09:45.17sylvanaar_atworka better name would be l2announce
09:45.52asmodaiheh
09:46.19sylvanaar_atworkim so bored at work right now
09:46.57asmodaisylvanaar_atwork: How so?
09:47.01mitch0do some project euler stuff
09:47.24sylvanaar_atworklol
09:48.04sylvanaar_atworki can work on my lua ide i guess
09:48.11TorhalBah. I kinda knew it wouldn't work but I had to try...
09:48.22mitch0but first find/create a binding to some bignum lib (like gnu mp)
09:48.49TorhalZhinjio is trying to use CastSpellByName() to bring up a tradeskill window, but he's doing it in response to an event so it causes taint
09:49.15TorhalI made a secure frame and tried to set its macro text as "/cast <profession>"
09:49.26TorhalI got a popup asking if I wanted to disable the AddOn.
09:49.27TorhalBah.
09:49.45Torhals/causes/taint/causes a blocked action/
09:50.35TorhalOwell. Time to catch two hours of sleep.
09:50.48sylvanaar_atworkyou have insomnia like me Torhal?
09:51.19sylvanaar_atworki wonder if hyposomnia is a word
09:51.30TorhalAye. I should have gone to bed hours upon hours ago but the fact that my X server killed my mouse and keyboard every time it started had me in OCD mode.
09:51.49quiescenso.o
09:51.52sylvanaar_atworkhttp://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hyposomnia
09:51.55quiescenssleep is good for you
09:51.57sylvanaar_atworki guess it is
09:52.10mitch0torhal: it's hald
09:52.54mitch0torhal: did you find a solution btw? (I have to restart moused, switch to console and back to get it working. would like a nicer fix :)
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12:18.19RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/slash-in/. SlashIn ( /in ). Morsker (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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12:21.04RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rpwaste/. RPWaste. ccKep (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
12:26.29RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/simple3dportraits/. Simple3DPortraits. Daedhir (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
12:28.38Repo10catacurrencycalculator: 03kunda * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): CataCurrencyCalculator:
12:28.39RepoCataclysm Currency and Honor Calculator.
12:28.41Repoinitial commit
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12:39.06Repo10catacurrencycalculator: 03kunda 0430300-1 * r3 : Tagging as 30300-1
12:43.28Repo10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r47 wTaskNote.lua:
12:43.30Repochange from storing the category name in index position zero to putting it in a named element of "name", change "notename" and "notebody" to just "name" and "body" in the storage of the notes
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13:01.18Repo10wtasknote (experimental): 03wuphonsreach * r48 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix TOC load order (embeds.xml) for the Ace3 libraries
13:01.20Reposee: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17903
13:01.21Repoor look in the .toc for the standalone Ace3 package
13:03.53sbu@describe wtasknote
13:03.54Reposbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtasknote/. wTaskNote. Checklist and notes addon.
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13:40.28Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r603 / (6 files in 6 directories):
13:40.30Repo- Set the correct interface versions for the cataclysm mods.
13:40.31Repo#RaidWatch_PartyCataclysm:
13:40.33Repo- GrimBatol:
13:40.34Repo-- General Umbriss implemented.
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13:41.57kagaroYssaril: looks like pre-determined spots
13:42.20kagarojust not sure if the 6 spots are determined per player or same for everyone with that digsite
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13:50.55pompyso i placed an order in the blizzard store on 9/13 3:40PM and they email me on 9/15 4:11AM telling me it failed? wtf
13:52.07Ackishttps://twitter.com/CurseForge/status/24664700352
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14:22.34Takikawho I have to write if I got the consent of the original author of my project (mybags3=ace3 conversion of mybags)?
14:24.45Ackisreport the project you want to take over (bottom right hand corner, hazard symbol) and a moderator will get to it
14:25.11Takikathe original project is not on wowace/courseforge
14:25.46Takikaand not on course.com
14:25.48Takikacurse
14:26.10Ackiswas on WoWI then?
14:26.17Takikayep
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14:27.11Takikabut the current author (thegabbert) isn't active since 04-02-2010
14:27.21ShefkiTakika: Talk to Carrien
14:27.53Ackisis there a license identified on wowi?
14:28.31ShefkiIf the license allows it you should probably just fork it.
14:28.50AckisShefki: the project exists on WoWI but not on wowace/CF
14:29.19Torhalpours hot grits down Ackis's pants.
14:29.29ShefkiWell it has to exist on CF if he's uploading downloads to curse.
14:29.36ShefkiBut yeah I got that.
14:29.38Ackisforces Torhal to rewrite ARL again.
14:29.45TakikaI can't find any license information at wowi
14:30.11ElkanoAckis, if you had done a good job he wouldn't have had to rewrite it in first place ;)
14:30.14ShefkiHave you tried contacting the author?
14:30.42Ackissubmit the project identifying that it's an update of someone elses work and that you have permission, and identify where you got permission from, if there's more questions (likely) the mod will get back to you or mark the project as changes required and then you can go from there
14:30.47Ackisgrrr Elkano
14:30.51Ackisit was a good job
14:31.15ShefkiOhh nm I see now he said he got consent.
14:31.33SunTsuAckis: For something drycoded 99,99% it was ;)
14:31.45ShefkiAsk the other author to notify WoWI that you can takeover and they'll do it for you.
14:31.46Ackiseveryone is a meanie!!!!
14:31.55ShefkiOr you can make a new project and do what Ackis said.
14:31.56TakikaShefki: I wrote him a PM (send email via wowi disabled)
14:32.33ShefkiYeah ask him to send a PM to Cairenn
14:34.24ShefkiAnyway off to work.
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14:35.14HumbedoohI'm not a meanie!
14:35.17Humbedoohpats Ackis
14:35.46quiescenswoek woek
14:35.57Takikaok, i will wait for the answer from thegabbert and if i receive the consent I will update my project
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14:38.57KaeltenTorhal: pong
14:39.08TorhalKaelten: pong
14:39.42mitch0protocol error
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14:40.09Ackisuh oh they ponged each other
14:40.21Ackisunless once of you is an elf, you're gay
14:40.57TorhalKaelten: I don't recall pinging you, so I misread that as a ping.
14:42.40Humbedoohif ckknight was here, he'd blame it on Linux ;<
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14:49.46Fiskeri lold Megalon
14:50.03Megalonyou seem to be a very happy person lately
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14:51.29Funkeh`he got laid?
14:51.49MegalonFunkeh`: i think relatives don't count
14:52.25Ackiswhat about goats?
14:54.44Kaeltenyour a goat
14:54.47Kaeltenyou're
14:55.22Megalonis there something you wanna tell us Ackis?
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14:55.35Megalonshow on the puppet where fisker touched you
14:56.34Ackis:(
15:00.07Repo10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 69cab79 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
15:00.09Repo69cab79: Added shovel tga
15:00.10Repo8c5dbfe: Added Archaeology artwork folder
15:01.29FiskerAckis
15:01.34Fiskeri want my fucking google tv
15:01.37Fiskerand yeah Megalon
15:01.52Fiskerwatching this game between "a fruit dealer" and "Nextaeja"
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15:03.46Megalonfruitseller aka cool
15:03.48Megalonyou mean ;x
15:04.43Fiskerno
15:04.46Fiskera fruit dealer
15:07.29Megalonoh
15:08.02Megalontastosis called him fruitdealer?
15:08.34Megalonon some sites they have him as fruitseller
15:10.11Fiskerthe scoreboard says "A fruit dealer"
15:10.16Fiskeror actually
15:10.18Fisker"a Fruit Dealer"
15:12.06Megalonyea, just a translation issue
15:13.29Fiskerno u
15:13.44Fiskerargh
15:13.47Fiskeri hate TvT
15:15.17koaschtenfisker stream?
15:16.50Megalonhe's probably watching gsl vods
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15:21.41Repo10slash-in: 03Morsker * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): cleanup
15:21.43Repoand using FindGlobals script
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15:25.28quiescensrun!
15:26.04ckknightI will find you, quiescens
15:26.19ckknightthere is nowhere to hide from my malevolence!
15:26.23Humbedoohoh noes
15:26.27Humbedoohit's c#knight!
15:26.38Repo10slash-in: 03Morsker * r7 .pkgmeta: er, trying to package a LibStub without debugging junk
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15:29.30RepoPackaging correct release versions of libraries.
15:29.39Fiskerckknight
15:29.45ckknighthey Fisker
15:32.00Parnic|Workwhere do we go to post suggestions on changes to the curse.com site? for example: mods that support 4.0.1 only display as supporting 4.0.1 and not 3.3.5. I've had users ask me "does this still work on 3.3.5?" http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ice-hud.aspx
15:32.39Ackisselect both game versions on CF
15:32.50Parnic|Worki did :)
15:33.00Parnic|Workhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/files/8523-1-6-10/ shows up there as both versions
15:33.02Parnic|Workbut curse.com doesn't
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15:33.55Ackisblame gnomes and ckknight IMO
15:34.11Parnic|Workhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/ <== same with "recent files" in the right sidebar there. despite all of those versions having X-Compatible-With 40000 / interface 30300, they just say 4.0.1
15:35.08Parnic|Workunrelated: it'd be really nice to be able to search for users by name. when i get an email about a comment someone made on my mod that was deleted before i could get to it, i have no way of contacting the user to ask about their question. alternatively, their username could be clickable in the email to take me to their page
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15:35.43ckknightParnic|Work: I have informed the correct person.
15:35.48Parnic|Workyay :)
15:35.59ckknightdon't expect a quick fix
15:36.06Parnic|Workthat's fine. just wanted to make it known
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15:38.05sylvanaar_atworkis china still on 3.1?
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15:43.48koaschtenbtw ckk, whats the status of seeing 4.0 mods in CC for easy beta installing? (do i miss a filter or doing something stupid so they don't already show for me?)
15:43.54Humbedoohnoes, sylvanaar_atwork
15:45.06Humbedoohthey're at 3.2 or above
15:45.19Humbedoohotherwise, my mods wouldn't work in China
15:46.30sylvanaar_atworkmust be private server then
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15:47.25Humbedooh3.2.2 is the latest in China
15:49.46Fiskerlol Megalon
15:49.47FiskerLOLD
15:49.56FiskeroGsTOP is awesome
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15:53.21kagaroanyone got the inventory icons for the new herbs/ore?
15:54.59sbumhhhh
15:55.04sbumh bg download doesnt start... wtf
15:55.11sbujust tells me "waiting"
15:55.13sbuwaiting for what??
15:56.41Xinhuankagaro easiest is just to check the AH lol
15:56.45Xinhuanfor herbs
15:56.51Xinhuanand ore
15:57.00sbumh okay, starting "backgrounddownloader.exe" did it
15:58.56Parnic|Workman i'm still shocked that 4.0.1 is preloading already
15:59.01Parnic|Workso buggy
15:59.30Xinhuanthe preloaded assets are mostly graphics, textures, models
15:59.33Xinhuannot game code
16:00.18Parnic|Worksure but preloading means they're planning on releasing it soonish, right?
16:00.21Parnic|Workwell, Soon(tm) i guess
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16:04.56ulicand the graphics textures and models are what makes up the largest portion of data.
16:10.23quiescenshmm
16:10.42Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2788 / (3 files in 3 directories): Jewelcrafting
16:15.40sbuFisker: need invite :P
16:16.41sbuMegalon? :(
16:18.22sbukoaschten? :P
16:19.52Megalonwtf
16:20.00Megalonafter my pizza perhaps
16:20.01Megalon;x
16:20.30harlthere seems to be some difference in user analysis or game version analysis.. probably related to the locale of my game (?) ..
16:20.54harltwo friends of mine are both already downloading parts of that pre-patch data for 4.0.0 now which started right when they logged in about half an hour ago..
16:20.59sbuMegalon: nao!!!
16:22.09harlmy launcher tells me that there's data for the next patch available and that downloading would start automatically, but it doesnt.. background downloading *is* enabled, but the background downloader itself tells me that there's no data available, so they're kind of inconsistent or something
16:22.19sbuhm
16:22.26sbuwhat happens if you start backgrounddownloader.exe?
16:22.29sbufrom your wow directory
16:22.57harlthat is what i actually did (after seeing the launcher not doing anything after it startet WoW and just exiting itself)
16:23.09harl*started
16:24.01ulicharl: I had the same problem, but when I restarted the backgrounddownloader.exe then it started downloading.
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16:25.02harlit's connecting to somewhere, i'd guess that it would be the file/server/page that tells the launcher (and the downloader) that there's data available, but it insists on the opposite of that ;)
16:26.32fakehIs there a way to break a variables connection to it's pointer? For example: "spells= {{...}, {...}}; spell = spells[1]; spell = nil;" without wiping the original data from spells?
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16:27.25sylvanaar_atworkthat doesnt change spells
16:27.42Parnic|Workhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/640642/how-do-you-copy-a-lua-table-by-value
16:28.12fakehI don't want to copy the table, I want a pointer a subtable but then when I'm done with that pointer I'd like to be able to sever that connection
16:28.21sylvanaar_atworkyour code does that
16:28.41sylvanaar_atworkspell = nil does what you want
16:28.51sylvanaar_atworkspells[1] = nil would remove the data
16:31.01fakehDoes that not also work when passing over functions?
16:31.51elb0wwhat
16:31.53fakehDoesn't matter, I think I've worked around the bug whatever it was. Thanks Sylv.
16:33.05elb0wmust of been a pebcak error
16:33.59Parnic|Workagain with the 'must of' :P
16:34.19elb0wold habits die hard
16:34.59elb0wwhats wrong with must of?
16:35.33Parnic|Workit's "must have" - you say "must of" because of how the contraction "must've" sounds when spoken
16:35.49elb0woh
16:36.07elb0wlike saying typing there instead of their?
16:36.20Parnic|Worksort of, but those are just homonyms
16:36.22elb0wgotcha
16:36.23Parnic|Workwhereas "must of" is nothing
16:37.08elb0wk im gonna write a irc script right now to swap my must ofs -> must havs
16:37.12elb0whaves*
16:37.14elb0wjust for you
16:37.24Parnic|Worki'm honored
16:37.27Brybryhands Parnic|Work some must of skunk
16:37.28durcyndo it for the good of all mankind, not just Parnic
16:37.37Parnic|Worknice, brybry ;)
16:37.44durcyner, it's musk, no?
16:37.49quiescenso.o
16:37.57Parnic|Worklol
16:38.10Brybryit's skunk mould ok
16:38.36quiescensget back to work parnic
16:38.54BrybryI didn't know must could be grape juice
16:39.01Brybryyou learn something new every day
16:39.09Parnic|Workquiescens: http://xkcd.com/303/
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16:43.29Megalonoh, sbu, still need an invite?
16:43.29Megalon;x
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16:43.45fakehCan I find what the key is of a table I have a reference to? i.e. "spells = {{..}, {..}}; spell = spells
16:43.46fakeh]
16:43.49fakehgah
16:44.49fakehi.e. "spells = {{..}, {..}}; spell = spells[2];" where I can do something clever to spell which would get me '2'?
16:47.15sbuMegalon: game :p
16:48.16Parnic|Workfakeh: i'm not that great at lua, but i'd either store the '2' part as a separate variable or make a function to iterate the 'spells' list looking for 'spell' and returning the key
16:48.25Parnic|Workthere may be better ways, but i don't know them :)
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16:48.47Tentacledfakeh: search in spells for spell?   for n,s in pairs(spells) do if s==spell then return n end end   ?
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16:50.24ccKep4.0.0 should be called "Big Booty Badges" :P
16:50.48Parnic|WorkccKep: ಠ_ಠ
16:50.58fakehThanks. I've ended up just setting the index as a member of each key, if there's a better way I'd love to hear it :)
16:54.07Parnic|Workfakeh: that will be a problem if you're ever doing any table.insert or table.remove operations
16:54.15quiescenso.O
16:54.21TentacledI don't think so - there's no C "search table" function, and if there's no reverse relation like the index, searching is all you can do.
16:54.53fakehParnic: I won't be
16:56.35ckknightor you can use a dictionary instead of a list.
16:56.55ckknight{ alpha = {..}, bravo = {..} }
16:57.09Tentacledstill the index would have to be stored or searched for.
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16:57.39ckknightI guess I don't understand his problem fully
16:57.46ckknightoh
16:57.48ckknightI see
16:57.49ckknightyea
16:58.09ckknightfakeh: either you'll have to construct a bidirectional dictionary or you'll just have to loop through and compare
17:01.32fakehThanks, I'll just loop.
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17:35.42Pneumatuszomg loggerhead update that finally stops nuking tables through the staticpopup
17:36.27Nivhah
17:37.31Pneumatusbeen running a hand-mangled version for god knows how long now :o
17:42.43Repo10xperl: 03Joddie 06cataclysm * r386 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: new player role check
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17:49.30Megalonhm
17:49.43Megalonthat beta just go bonkers? :x
17:50.47Megalondid :c
17:52.07Megalonoh, login server maintenance
17:52.11Megalonwhat a nice thing to have :>
17:59.29TNZeheh
17:59.30TNZedammit
17:59.32TNZeI was hoping for patch
17:59.38TNZeto fix everything up to sunny yay yay yay
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18:01.19CrillanaAnyone here?
18:01.36SunTsunope
18:01.41Crillanacool
18:01.53Crillanahas anyone tried ace3 with cataclysm beta yet?
18:03.02CrillanaI'm having an issue with acedb and saved variables not saving.  Wondered if it was a know issue and I just have to wait for an update or what?
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18:05.33jnwhitehnothing should have broken AceDB as far as I'm aware.
18:06.15jnwhitehits incredibly simple code
18:06.20Parnic|Workmy mod works with ace3 in cata just fine :)
18:06.36Parnic|Workcrillana: are you sure it's not throwing an error? errors are off by default
18:06.48Parnic|Works/it's/your mod's/
18:07.24Crillanahmm, didn't realize errors were off, will probably help turning them on, thanks :D
18:08.48Repo10gridconfigurablelayouts (experimental): 03MSaint * r35 GridConfigurableLayouts.lua: Improvements to the options pages
18:10.03Repo10gathermate2: 03kagaro 07master * 16f64d5 / (12 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Added some new icons for cata herbs and minerals.
18:10.11Crillana<--- kicks himself in the tail,  found a this: reference when i turn on errors :D
18:10.16Crillanathank you
18:10.53ckknightjnwhiteh: Ace3 is broken, I've started Ace4
18:11.02ckknight...just kidding
18:11.08jnwhitehhave fun with that =)
18:11.21SunTsuckknight: I thought you'd start rock2 for Cata...
18:11.27ckknightlol, no
18:11.47ckknightI'm fine just making a whole bunch of libraries to do things I want
18:11.48ckknighte.g.
18:11.51ckknight@project liblinq-1-0
18:11.53Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/liblinq-1-0/. LibLinq-1.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 days ago
18:12.51SunTsuI was just kidding
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18:15.38Crillanathat's interesting, I'm using a zone change event, in stormwind it won't trigger going into valley of heroes while running through arch, but it does trigger if I fly over. :(
18:16.27TNZeheh, report
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18:19.18Parnic|Workhmm...we have mitchnull and mitch0
18:19.28mitchnullteh horrorz :)
18:19.43mitchfalsei want to join
18:20.06mitchfalseget it? double meaning.
18:20.07mitchnullonly when you finished the Ace3 port of IceHud :)
18:20.10mitchnilhowdy
18:20.16quiescenso.O
18:20.18mitchfalseit's lua-mitch!
18:20.19quiescensflees
18:20.32mitchfalsemitchnull: pff, it's done :). i'm not dumping aceoo
18:20.38mitchnilwhy not?
18:20.46mitchnullthat's lame
18:20.50mitchfalseno reason to. it does the same thing that i would have to do manually
18:20.55ckknightokay then
18:21.08Parnic|Workthere's nothing Ace about it, once i looked into the source
18:21.12mitchnullat least strip only that part out of Ace2
18:21.26Parnic|Workwell that would just be dishonest
18:21.28mitchnulland hard-embed it
18:21.34mitchnullerm, no
18:21.39mitchnullI'd really like to get rid of Ace2
18:21.53Parnic|Workdon't the ace2 authors get a cut of my curse points as long as i'm using ace2 code?
18:21.54ckknightwrites a competitor to IceHud out of spite
18:21.55mitchnullit eats up cpu/memory even when nobody's using it
18:22.02ckknightParnic|Work: yea
18:22.11Parnic|Workso breaking out aceoo would just be mean
18:22.13ckknightParnic|Work: although actually it's not a cut of _your_ points
18:22.16mitchnullyou can list Ace2 as "tools used"
18:22.20ckknightyea, that's true
18:22.24Parnic|Workthat's a fair point
18:22.45Parnic|Workckknight: "my" point, "the pool"'s points, same thing :P
18:22.51Parnic|Workpoint=points
18:22.52mitchnullor just do AceOO simpler and with less ckktaint ;)
18:22.59Parnic|Worklol
18:23.18ckknightmitchnull: hey, don't be mean
18:23.28mitchnulljust kidding, you know
18:23.30ckknightand I explained to Parnic how to do prototypical inheritance in lua
18:23.43mitchnullI'm only mean on irc when I'm in a bad mood or bored :P
18:24.11quiescensgo to sleep
18:24.12quiescensnodnod
18:24.32Parnic|Workckknight: yeah but then i looked at aceoo's source and it's doing all of that already :P
18:24.38Parnic|Workso reproducing it seemed unnecessary
18:24.44Parnic|Worki like the tools-used/hard embed approach, though
18:24.45ckknightwell, it's doing it in a way more complicated way
18:25.47Parnic|Worki'll look into it some more tonight. lua makes my head hurt with all that
18:25.56ckknighthmm
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18:42.45fakehDoubtless this is totally obvious, however, I have a Button (inheriting from normal ActionButtonTemplate as well as Secure) and when I SetNormalTexture the texture appears bigger than the button, SetPushedTexture appears the correct size.
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18:48.29EthanCentauraianyone know when the beta realms will be back up?
18:49.02hastenope, they haven't mentioned any ETA
18:49.15fakehI'm on Mekka now
18:49.34fakehOr do you mean PTR?
18:49.47EthanCentauraiI mean the beta, not the PTR
18:49.56EthanCentauraiI ain't downloading that :p
18:50.05fakehMekka's up, so must be login
18:50.11EthanCentaurairages
18:50.33fakehSo now is not the time for me to rename my files :)
18:51.24Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07Cata * r742 / (12 files in 2 directories): Add some basic boss modules for Grim Batol and Halls
18:55.48doom0rkgpanels still need something else to provide a viewport?
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19:01.39harlwhy do people not understand, that my tremor totem needs to TICK to compensate for fear/sleep/daze
19:01.50doom0rk, didn't think so
19:02.11doom0rthink i just used skinners quick option last time i tried using kg
19:03.12Parnic|Workharl: at least you use them. i get really ticked off when i'm in an instance that's been around for 2 years and the shaman never drops a tremor totem where it's needed
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19:05.40harlbut people are still like "WAH TOTEM PLX!" when it's already there. it's not like i can MAKE it tick somehow.. -.-
19:07.00harlso, *eventually*.. they get feared for 1-3 seconds, because that's how it is. i can't change it.
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19:07.33durcynif you time it correctly with the cast, it ticks immediately after the debuff application
19:07.38durcynbe a better shaman.
19:08.38Parnic|Workhttp://ihaveapc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/wtf_coding.jpg
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19:44.33koaschtengrumbles.
19:44.41koaschtenApple Store is the biggest rip off ever
19:45.17koaschten1. why would i want or even need THREE iPhone 4 Universal dock adapters, ONE would be the far more needed amount
19:45.43koaschten2. do you ship from asia directly? or why would you need 7-10 days to deliver?
19:47.06Funkeh`apple ^^
19:47.14koaschtenAnd yes, i feel ripped of paying 9€ PLUS another 9€ shipping and taxes.... for 3 adapters made of flimsy plastics measuring about 2.5x1 inches
19:47.44Parnic|Workare you trying to just buy a cable or an actual dock?
19:49.42koaschtenI have a universal dock with all the adaptors that came with it 2008
19:49.48koaschtennow i got a iPhone 4
19:50.11koaschtenbut none of the adaptors fit, so i need a new adaptor, thats why i got a universal dock
19:50.15koaschtenits "future proof"
19:50.28koaschtenwell fun fact, Apple only sells the adaptors in packs of 3
19:50.59Megalonbecause they know they can do it
19:51.03Fiskerhey koaschten
19:51.04Megalonand their sheep will buy it
19:51.04Fiskerit's apple
19:51.07fakehcheeky
19:51.07Megalonlike crazy
19:51.08Fiskerand you fucking know it
19:51.13Megalonbecause there are apple logos on it :)
19:51.22koaschtenand instead of mailing them single in envelopes they probably will send a box bigger than the box my iPhone came in
19:51.41FiskerApple is like religion except they don't have much legal and political power
19:51.42Fisker:3
19:51.46fakehplenty of people do it though, had to buy a strip light starter motor in a pack of 3 when the previous one hadn't failed in about 15years
19:52.32fakehNow I have two spare that I'll try to keep somewhere memorable for 15years and ultimately end up buying another 3 15years hence
19:52.34doom0rat least they don't package things like hp
19:52.49fakehSome people just logged on to Mekkatorque, maybe login's back
19:53.17Megalonunable to connect
19:53.43koaschteni will probably just get a post in a local apple forum up and re-mail the 2 spare ones for a 3rd of my expenses
19:54.01fakehnice idea
19:54.25fakehgoes to find a florescent strip light forum
19:54.28Ackislesson learnt: don't buy apple
19:55.40koaschteni dare saying the apple phone is probably the only piece luxury/livestyle gear i own ;)
19:56.59Megalonthat's just how apple lemmings role
19:57.05Megalon100% of their livestyle gear is from apple :)
19:57.15koaschtenhahahaha
19:58.22koaschtenwell the contract that came with it just matched my usage habits and cut down my monthly costs little to no texting, 100 minutes calling and free weekends and mobile data flat
19:58.53profalbertthere is also the vice-versa type, which own 100% of apple's livestyle gear
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19:59.35FiskerAckis
19:59.39Fiskeri like you
20:00.37Megalonprofalbert: no clue which one of the two are worse though ;)
20:01.13Megalonand poor Ackis
20:01.45profalbertimho type 2. "I need xxx, hey there's some apple-stuff, I'll take that", is better than "Hey apple just announced xxx, I think I need it" I suppose
20:02.23Megalonhehe yea
20:02.37Megalonthey are like pre-early adopters
20:05.03doom0romg apple: http://youtu.be/FL7yD-0pqZg
20:05.55koaschtennaah the really bad apple fans are those that need the new phone every year even though it comes with a 2 year contract ;)
20:06.00doom0roh ya, language nsfw
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20:06.14doom0rkoaschten: that link is exactly that
20:06.43nebulanot really an apple thing, i know people that get a new phone every time they see an ad for a cool one
20:07.00Parnic|Worksomeone said something about a cool new phone? where can i get it?
20:07.04nebulapeople can be retarded regardless of the product they buy
20:07.09doom0ri want the one with the bigger geebees
20:07.23Parnic|Worki want the phone that has more of whatever your phone has
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20:13.13fakehIt's back from the dead!
20:13.24fakehIt's been..... REPOsessed!
20:14.52fakehJoin me in a vigil for my joke Parnic? :)
20:15.08Parnic|Workhahaha
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21:02.37fakeh[SERVER] Restart in 15:00 on Mekka
21:03.00fakehSo either no one or everyone will be screwed :)
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22:29.38steevany dks about who have shadowmourne?
22:30.07PrimerI wish
22:30.16Primer21 shards...last run: 8 bosses, 2 shards
22:31.59doom0ri just found out i missed the hz281hpb on newegg for 260 shipped =\
22:32.13Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r611 modules/Bubbles.lua:
22:32.15steevwe are currently doing normal icc25s
22:32.15Repomake the chat bubbles size upwards and downwards along with changes to the text length and font/font size. This should prevent both early truncation and large blank spaces when using a small font
22:32.27steevbecause we can't get 25 people
22:33.18steevthe next person in line isn't raiding, because he took the week off where i got mine,
22:33.47steevthe person after him left the guild because he wasn't on the quest when i completed it, so he couldn't roll on the shards so felt the guild skipped over him
22:34.14steevpeople are odd
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22:47.24Primersteev: all I've ever done is normal ICC 25, for the same reason
22:47.37Primeractually, that's my main raid. My DK goes to GKPs only now
22:47.49PrimerWhich I or a friend runs
22:47.57Primermeaning, we don't sell the shards
22:48.13PrimerI find it amazing that shards can actually be looted to people who are not on the quest
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23:05.03Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r613 modules/Bubbles.lua:
23:05.05Repofix the dynamic chatbubble expansion feature which was broken during optimization of scan frequency
23:05.53sylvanaarnow there are enough options that its diffult to test all the combinations
23:05.58sylvanaarugh
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