IRC log for #wowace on 20100907

00:16.38pompyNo working Bankstack version yet on the beta?
00:22.22Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r555 modules/PlayerHealth.lua:
00:22.24Repo- updated UnitGroupRolesAssigned check for the new return value
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00:27.46Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r556 modules/PlayerHealth.lua:
00:27.48Repo- modified last commit to use a new local variable for the UnitGroupRolesAssigned check in order to avoid stepping on a different usage of "role" in the surrounding code
00:32.22arkanesso it looks like unpack() stops on the first nil value
00:32.45arkanesthis isn't consistent with the lua docs I find online and makes it hard to use as a generic call mechanism, am I doing something wrong?
00:33.32vhaarrunpack only works on indexed array tables
00:34.12arkanesI'm using it with the return value of UnitAura
00:34.31arkanesor rather {UnitAura("player", 1)}
00:34.31vhaarrunitaura doesn't return a table
00:34.49vhaarryes, well, it will stop at nil indeed, just like |next| will
00:34.55arkanestheres probably a better way to do this
00:34.59ShadowedThere isn
00:35.18arkanesis it the packing into a table, or the unpack() thats stopping at nil?
00:35.18ShadowedThere isn't really a good way to iterate or figure out when a table ends without stopping at nil
00:35.26vhaarrI don't know what you're doing, so I can't say
00:35.44vhaarrthe unpack stops at nil, you said it yourself, and then I said it, and now we are saying it again
00:35.54Parnichey i heard the unpack stops at nil
00:36.00arkanesthe lua docs I find don't say that
00:36.01arkanesbut okay
00:36.08ShadowedI doubt that
00:36.39vhaarrwhatever you're doing, stop it and start using tuples instead
00:36.54Shadowedhttp://www.lua.org/pil/5.1.html
00:37.12Shadowedit doesn't say it returns anything after nil, and the code example makes it clear that it stops at nil too
00:38.03vhaarrlike |local function foo(...) for i=1,select("#",...) do print((select(i,...))) end end; foo(UnitAura("player", 1))|
00:38.27Wobinpompy: mrplow still works =P
00:40.40arkanesShadowed: I missed what the code example does, and instead relied on the entire rest of the documentation which talked about how it's useful as a generic call mechanism
00:40.45arkanesbut apparently that was all lies
00:40.50arkanesit's cool I've done it all with tuples
00:41.11ShadowedThat's your fault, not the documentation :p
00:41.35vhaarractually it's blizzards fault for having 40 returns from one API
00:41.42vhaarr:P
00:41.44arkanesonly 11 on this one!
00:41.57Shadowedwell I'm not sure why you would want to create a temporary table every time you call auras either
00:41.58Shadowedbut that's another issue
00:42.02arkanesI didn't
00:42.02vhaarrindeed
00:42.07vhaarrhence my tuple nudge
00:42.11arkanesbut I also didn't want to write 11 return values 4 times each
00:42.18arkanesis there a syntax for tuples I don't know about then?
00:42.29vhaarr...
00:42.34arkanesI thought you just meant a,b,c,d = foo()
00:42.35arkanesand so on
00:42.42vhaarrvhaarr> like |local function foo(...) for i=1,select("#",...) do print((select(i,...))) end end; foo(UnitAura("player", 1))|
00:43.13arkanes... is a table
00:44.23arkaneshttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/259075/
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01:08.44Repo10mizusraidtracker (experimental): 03Mizukichan 07master * v0.14-Beta-9-g6ce311c / (5 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] CTRT-Export: Added option for automatically adding one item of poor item quality to each boss at data export. This should fix a bug in the EQDKP-CTRT-Import-Plugin boss detection. Boss detection fails, if no loot is connected to a boss event (i.e. attendance checks).
01:37.59Shefkiarkanes: ... is not a table anymore.
01:39.52ShefkiAnd pack and unpack can be controlled so they don't stop at nil.
01:39.55ShefkiRead the documentation.
01:40.02Repo10mizusraidtracker (experimental): 03Mizukichan 07master * v0.14-Beta-10-g1605a15 MizusRaidTracker.lua: [+1 commit] CTRT-Export: Added additional attendance checks and optimized the length of the export string.
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01:50.53arkanesthe documentation doesn't say how to do that :\
01:51.12arkanesalthough I did infer it from what it says its supposed to do, but apparently doesn't
01:51.37Shefkiarkanes: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_unpack
01:51.57ShefkiInteger - Ending index, appends nil values if the table does not contain enough
01:52.15arkanesfoolish me for reading the lua docs instead of the wowiki ones
01:52.32ShefkiThe lua docs have the same info I just was able to pull that up faster.
01:53.21arkanesthe lua docs say that the default value for the third argument to unpack is the length of array as defined by the length operator
01:53.26Shefkiarkanes: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-unpack
01:53.33arkaneswhich is not consistent with what actually happens
01:53.41Shefkiarkanes: BY DEFAULT
01:53.52arkanesunpack(t, 1, #t) does not give the same results as unpack(t)
01:54.19ShefkiThe meaning of the length operator changed, probably a reference that got missed.
01:54.27arkanesfair enough
01:55.02arkanesthe spec for the length operator is helpfully non-precise, too
01:55.12arkaneslots of "may" in it
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02:15.21TorhalAntiarc: ping
02:18.44Parnicis PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED/disabled still the "in combat" event? doesn't seem to be working for me
02:21.00TorhalParnic: Beta client is beta.
02:21.02Torhal:D
02:21.14Parnicjust making sure :)
02:24.00TorhalThere are some XML files that aren't even loaded, and plenty of event changes
02:24.33TorhalI noticed with the latest API diff, there are two entries for the same CVar - one with a portion in caps and the other all lowercase.
02:24.39TorhalSo shit's just kinda borked all around.
02:24.47Parnicnice
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03:18.24ShefkiTorhal: cvars are case insensitive.
03:21.15quiescenso.o
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03:24.16Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r557 / (2 files in 2 directories):
03:24.17Repo- added basic implementation of Holy Power for Cataclysm Paladins. has a graphical mode (basically matches Blizzard's built-in frame without the background) and numeric mode (which just displays the number of runes active as 0/1/2/3)
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04:03.17Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r159 core.lua:
04:03.19Repoi had (elapsed or 0) in the onupdate, not sure why, but to prevent any possible issues im changing it to (elapsed or 0.01)
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04:32.47Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r160 core.lua: fix leaked global lock_stop
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05:20.48Wobin"And my decision will come... after these messages from our sponsors..."
05:31.44starlonIt's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.
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06:26.15sylvanaarwhat do you guys use for map addons?
06:26.26sylvanaaror better is there a supported map addon
06:26.27bluspacecownothing !
06:26.29bluspacecownude !
06:26.36evldefault = win
06:26.41sylvanaari use default too
06:26.42syerenMapster.
06:26.46evlor rather default + tweaks
06:27.14sylvanaari like comprehensive addons though - so i dont have 50 tweaks to update
06:27.28bluspacecowcarbonite !
06:27.43sylvanaari liked carbonite's map
06:27.45sylvanaarthe small one
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06:29.16sylvanaaris mapster updted for cata
06:29.22sylvanaarupdated even
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06:30.13bluspacecowdon't know ask nevcariel IMHO
06:33.06orionshockprofessions still broken on beta?
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06:41.59Repo10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r14 embeds.xml: Removing old library reference
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06:52.28orionshockgreat... im in my new epics on beta...
06:52.34orionshocksadly they are all green :(
06:55.51the-golemaww
06:56.21ElkanoTorhal ping
06:57.18the-golemomg I lol'd
06:57.40the-golemI just ran past a worgen named Grandma
06:57.56starlonthis library loads fine if it's installed as an addon, but not so if it's embedded. the same xml file is loaded in both places... the only other things loaded in the addon is LibStub and CallbackHandler. o.O
06:58.58mitch0starlon: maybe the embedding addon fails to load LS and/or CBH before loading the lib?
06:59.43starlonthey're loaded by the addon that embeds the library
06:59.49starlonbefore the library
07:00.06mitch0then something else is wrong :P
07:00.13starlonit's only one library in the suite as well. the rest loaded in the same xml file load fine.
07:00.23starlondefinitely :)
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07:00.33mitch0which addon/lib is it?
07:00.41starlonStarTip and StarLibs-1.0
07:00.52mitch0ah.
07:00.55mitch0that's a mess :P
07:01.15starlonwhat do you mean?
07:01.36mitch0nah, just kidding. I only seen the forum thread and it had like 20+ libs or so?
07:01.52starlonit's got a bunch of elements
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07:02.00starlonit's structured well
07:02.34starlonexcept that WidgetIcon isn't loading >.>
07:02.41starlonin LibCore
07:03.02mitch0check framexml.log (or whatsitsname
07:03.08starlonah right
07:03.41starlon9/7 01:59:20.852  Error loading Interface\AddOns\StarTip\Libs\StarLibs-1.0\StarLibWidgetIcon-1.0\StarLibWidgetIcon-1.0.lua
07:03.44starlonhehe
07:03.55mitch0see? :)
07:04.08starlonstrange that it loads fine as an addon.
07:04.18mitch0is the file there?
07:04.22starlonyep
07:04.28mitch0have you checked?
07:04.33starlonyes
07:04.39mitch0have you double checked? :)
07:04.45starlonlol
07:05.26mitch0@project startip
07:05.27Repomitch0: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/startip/. StarTip. Game: WoW. starlon (Manager/Author). Updated: 16 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1
07:05.32mitch0ah, cf :(
07:06.02Repo10character-notes: 03talryn1 * r22 CharacterNotes.lua: Fixing a variable name mistake
07:06.02mitch01.8.7b is the one acting up?
07:06.33starlonno, I stopped the error so I could tag a beta release.
07:06.38starlonthe one prior was broken
07:06.51starlonand I had no idea there was a ticket
07:07.03mitch0erm, the .zip is strange
07:07.10mitch0it has two LibStubs
07:07.22starlonyeah, I noticed that.
07:07.33starlonI think I may have an external defined
07:08.27starlonnope
07:08.43Fiskermitch0
07:08.49Fiskeraren't you a linux jerk?
07:09.21starlonlinux is for jerks
07:09.27Fiskerexactly
07:09.32starlonis a jerk.
07:09.35Fiskeryay
07:09.54Fiskerwhen you "restore" a rsync backup can you still use excludes
07:09.56Fisker?
07:10.00starlonI don't have Linux installed right now though. My hared driver died a while back.
07:10.05Fiskerbaw
07:10.09starlonI've never used rsync
07:10.16Fiskeryou are a terrible person
07:10.25starlonsulks.
07:15.16SunTsuFisker: What does it matter in which direction you rsync?
07:15.39starlonbleh I'll deal with this tomorrow. I'm tired.
07:16.36Fiskerthat's what i thought SunTsu
07:19.04SunTsuFisker: rsync does not know the concept of original and copy/backup, as the name says, it syncs, and it does not care in which direction
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08:06.50AdirelleSunTsu, you're wrong, rsync actually care at what is the source and what is the destination
08:08.08SunTsuAdirelle: you are missing the context. Fisker asked about rsyncing "back" an "rsync backup", and it does not matter which one was the "original" and which one is the "backups"
08:08.22SunTsursync still works the same
08:09.11SunTsuespecially excludes work that way the same as they did the other way around
08:09.37Adirellewhat's is wrong is "rsync backup" actually
08:09.47Adirellebecause rsync ain't a backup tool
08:10.04SunTsuAdirelle: That was ehat I tried to point out, exactly
08:10.09SunTsuwhat even
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08:11.05Adirellebut hey, it's fisker !
08:11.15Repo10minimalist: 03whizkid * r87 v87/: Minimalist: - tagging as release for curse client
08:11.19SunTsuOMG, you're right
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08:11.46mitch0tada
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08:34.01asmodai:D
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09:40.24ccKepguess it's jumpy-google-logo-day
09:45.38Wobinyeah
09:45.41Wobinwhat's with that?
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09:48.05koaschtenhtml5 day? no clue ;)
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10:14.27Funkeh`zomg google users
10:15.00Funkeh`lol that's quite cool
10:15.37Funkeh`i wants jumpy google on https://ssl.scroogle.org/ :(
10:28.06mitch0I don't have jumpy google :(
10:28.28mitch0oh, you mean that it sorta fades out?
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10:29.43fakehHi, anyone know a way of cancelling buffs from addons in cataclysm? CancelUnitBuff is now protected.
10:34.45hastewhat's quite cool?
10:43.13ccKepfakeh: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000&pageNo=2
10:43.18ccKep(hope I grabbed the correct link)
10:43.26ccKeppost 21, that is
10:43.41ccKepmeh
10:43.44ccKepI should finally wake up
10:43.50ccKepdidnt notice he left -.-
10:54.58Repo10absorbsmon: 03eyogar 07master * beta-1-20-g854ee9c Core.lua: [+2 commits]
10:54.59Repo854ee9c: Some performance optimizations in very hot code paths
10:55.00Repo24b9ffe: Used localized zone names for automatic zone modifier
11:02.35Repo10absorbsmon: 03eyogar 07master * beta-1-21-gc2f1bab External/AbsorbsViewer/AbsorbsViewer.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed another regression concerning misaligned effect frames after hiding, now it's really working!
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11:09.07starlonWhat version of Lua does WoW use?
11:09.38bluspacecow5 i think
11:09.47starlonk
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11:13.10asmodaia subset of lua 5.1
11:13.17asmodaiNot sure if they upgraded it yet
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11:19.00starlonthanks
11:19.23starlonhas no clue why this file won't load.
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11:29.16starlonfacepalms.
11:29.36starlonHelps if you restart WoW when you add files, huh?
11:29.46mitch0;)
11:30.02mitch0starlon: did you solve the lib loading thing?
11:30.51starlonyes
11:31.00mitch0what was the problem?
11:31.47starlonI failed to restart Wow when I updated StarTip's copy of StarLibs
11:32.16starlonWidgetIcon is new
11:32.16mitch0oh, I thought it was some user-reported issue
11:32.22starlonheh
11:32.41starlonnah, just user error on myp art
11:32.44starlonsleep helped
11:32.54bluspacecoweveryone has a bad day.
11:32.59starlon:)
11:33.55ccKepor week... or month... ;)
11:34.29starlonI'm going with lifetime.
11:34.32ccKepsome people out there seem to even have bad decades, considering how they act :(
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11:35.41bluspacecowma baby mage is so small her arcane missle is an arcane missile
11:35.55bluspacecowas in only 1 comes out not 3 @ once !
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11:36.45ccKepthe good old times, when spell upgrades really mattered! :D
11:38.28bluspacecownothing like a battle then levelling giving all your mana and HP back !
11:40.08ccKepI'd really love to level my hunter to 85, but I hate grinding and don't want to start uldum / twilight highlands until quest rewards are implemented -.-
11:40.32ccKep+dungeons are a pita atm
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11:45.32starlondislikes weekly maintenance.
11:45.39starlonHappens when I can't sleep.
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12:04.23starlonI have a craving for milk.
12:04.55bluspacecowchocolate
12:05.02starlonmmm
12:05.52TorhalI vote that we ban the word "lightweight" from AddOn descriptions and forum posts.
12:06.01starlonlol
12:06.38ccKepeverything's "lightweight" nowadays :D
12:07.07TorhalI should see if Kaelten will do a search/replace to make all occurrences be "inefficient, memory-hogging"
12:07.37HumbedoohI pride myself in writing memory hogs ;>
12:08.06evlTorhal: imho without being able to profile the default ui you can't really make that claim
12:08.33evlunless your addon prints hello world and nulls itself out :)
12:08.37Humbedoohsure he can!
12:08.48Humbedoohwhat's the definition of "lightweight" anyway?
12:08.50jnwhitehevl: still requires reads from the filesystem
12:09.02jnwhitehtoo heavy
12:09.15Humbedoohagreed!
12:09.25Humbedoohlet's label all addons with a ToC file as heavy!
12:09.35vhaarrnot if you transmit the lua through the addon channel and loadstring it
12:09.54Humbedoohbut then it's a data traffic hog!
12:10.01evlEven better, replace light weight with Web Scale™ and low memory footprint with Sharded™
12:10.10Humbedooh:<
12:10.10vhaarrCloud Computing in Ironforge
12:10.28HumbedoohWoW on Rails
12:10.36evlHard to know what really makes a performance dent
12:10.37jnwhiteh:P
12:10.58evlI mean how do I know if I gain any performance in a crowded raid by using unitframemod A B or C when I don't know the performance of the default
12:11.08starlonrofl
12:11.13HumbedoohI know that having several mods that all parse combat logs independently makes a dent ;>
12:11.34evlLibCombatLogWebScaleShard
12:11.41evlsolved.
12:11.54HumbedoohI also know that since I completely wiped my combat log off the face of the earth, no moar error 132! \o/
12:12.32evlhow exactly do you do that, isn't the model populated even when the view is removed?
12:12.55HumbedoohI rerouted the api call ;\
12:13.24Humbedoohit's populated yeah, but it's the GetCombatLogEntry() thing that makes it crash
12:14.46Humbedoohso I just prevented it from running that function
12:15.01TorhalHumbedooh: Damn it. Blizzard has IRC spies. Now, you'll be fatally tainting the environment come Cataclysm!
12:15.05Torhal:D
12:15.34Humbedooh:<
12:15.52HumbedoohI tried going through proper channels, but they kept claiming I just needed to scan for viruses
12:16.27Humbedoohmust be a very special virus that only affects combat logs in WoW if so
12:17.55Humbedoohif only Blizzard had used MongoDB for their combat database!
12:18.41bluspacecowa virus written by insanely jealous no bodys who live in their mums basement and write viruses that target combot log parser sites as they're insecure in their own DPS
12:19.24Humbedoohindeed
12:20.00Humbedoohdriven to hatred after their doctoral thesis "Does DPS support Web Scale?" was refuted
12:21.17bluspacecow*nod* *nod*
12:22.04Humbedoohand he kept getting into arguments with people whenever they wanted to "shard" an item
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12:28.19asmodaiheh, people here must've seen the highscalability video posting about noSQL fanboiism
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12:31.57asmodaihey sylvanaar_atwork
12:32.06sylvanaar_atworkyes
12:32.15sylvanaar_atworkhi asmodai
12:32.23Humbedoohwell it does have a very valid point, asmodai ;p
12:33.50asmodaiabsolutely
12:33.53sylvanaar_atworkdoes chatter place chat commands that were errors into the editbox history?
12:33.53asmodaisylvanaar_atwork: how's life?
12:35.00sylvanaar_atworkasmodai: it was a long weekend - i spent most of it coding  - had fun though. You?
12:36.41sylvanaar_atworkie does chatter let you type "/sayhello" then alt-up arrow and edit that to '/say hello"
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12:37.22sylvanaar_atworkif you press enter after ""/sayhello" of course
12:37.46asmodaibeing depressed after attending the wedding of my cousin last Friday -- but overall the weekend was ok -- putting time in Dragon Age again
12:38.23sylvanaar_atworkthat was a fun game - i have just decided I dont really like single player gaming that much anymore
12:38.46sylvanaar_atworkdragon age had a great story, i never finished it though
12:38.48asmodaiI'm finding out that most MMOs can suck it ;)
12:39.06asmodaiI prefer single player more
12:39.10sbusylvanaar_atwork: oh, so its now possible to re-edit invalid commands? thats great :o
12:39.34sylvanaar_atworksbu i was asking - someone on the beta forum said you could
12:39.43sylvanaar_atworki didnt think it was
12:40.07sbuwell it doesnt work with invalid commands on live :p
12:40.26sylvanaar_atworkthey were probably wrong - i was just checking
12:42.34sbumeh, another 2 hours at work :p
12:42.47sylvanaar_atworkim like a zombie today
12:46.31Ali1331whats up with googles logo today >.<
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12:48.59Ali1331oh, 12th birthday
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14:29.38koaschtenanyone know a simple autoaccept invite addon from the top of their head?
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14:48.57jnwhiteh!api InviteAccept
14:48.57lua_botCould not find a match for 'InviteAccept'.
14:49.02jnwhiteherr
14:49.04jnwhiteh!addon InviteAccept
14:49.06lua_botFound 0 addon results for 'InviteAccept': http://is.gd/eZaOG
14:49.07jnwhitehwas worth a shot =)
14:49.27jnwhitehhowever: http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/find/accept+invite
14:49.28jnwhitehfirst result
14:49.47Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar * r47 embeds.xml:
14:49.49RepoMTarget:fix up the order in the embeds.xml so that the libdatabroker is loaded before libdbicon as that is the dependency order.
14:49.58Humbedooh!addon AcceptInvite
14:49.59lua_botFound 1 addon results for 'AcceptInvite': http://is.gd/eZaUj
14:50.03Humbedooh\o/
14:52.47sylvanaar_atworkjnwhiteh: clique doesnt support CompactRaidFrame 's - do you already know that
14:52.56jnwhitehyes
14:53.03sylvanaar_atworkok, just checking
14:53.04jnwhitehit supports the compact party frames
14:53.18jnwhitehand if someone gets me what I need for the raid frames (depending on if they're dynamically created)
14:53.21jnwhitehI can toss them in as well
14:53.29jnwhitehbut I dont have many opportunities to group or raid on beta
14:53.32sylvanaar_atworkwhat do you need
14:53.38sylvanaar_atworktheir names?
14:54.13sylvanaar_atworkyou can get into a raid by zoning into that pvp zone when its up
14:55.03sylvanaar_atworkyou know whats funny about them is that they are not in order. Frame6 might come after Frame2
14:55.17sylvanaar_atworkon the screen
14:59.40sylvanaar_atworkill try and get a list of frame names - i looked this am and they were named almost identically to the party frames
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15:17.29sylvanaar_atworkjnwhiteh: yikes they are dynamically created, but all go through CompactUnitFrame_SetUpFrame
15:17.46jnwhitehthen we can use that to do it, same as we do the raid frames now.
15:17.53jnwhitehdo they all have names?
15:17.56sylvanaar_atworkyes
15:18.06jnwhitehguaranteed?
15:18.35quiescenso.o
15:18.39sylvanaar_atworklooks that way
15:19.10kadrahilew maintenance
15:19.13kadrahilwhat ever will i do for 4 hours
15:19.17kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
15:19.20quiescenssleep
15:19.30jnwhitehgit-svn cloning makes me cry.
15:19.34kadrahili could, but i'm waiting to hear back from an interview i had last week
15:19.55Aikaridc to login i just wanna use remoteAH :
15:19.56Megalonkadrahil: slapping Fisker for 4 hours seems like a good choice
15:19.57Aikar:(
15:20.02kadrahilMegalon, :P
15:20.20kadrahilso the addon idea i had a while back
15:20.31jnwhitehsylvanaar_atwork: wow, have you seen how I'm catching the raid frames
15:20.32jnwhitehinsane!
15:20.42kadrahiltracking crafting by people in your party and the number of total procs they get etc
15:20.45quiescensmagic
15:20.57kadrahilso if you have someone make like 80 potions and they proc say 34
15:21.57kadrahilbasically the addon would track the total of whatever they just made so you know you're not getting Fiskered
15:22.32kadrahilgood? bad? yes? no? i need more coffee :(
15:23.40jnwhitehsylvanaar_atwork: http://clique.pastey.net/140448 check and see if that works?
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15:34.30RepoMTarget:Fix up the dependencies so it can run with a separate Ace3 lib installed.
15:35.42Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): MTarget:update version
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15:37.18arkaneshaha man the day that deathwing came is awesome
15:38.07arkanesblood elf male "hot babe:
15:39.27Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar 07cataclysm * r51 : MTarget:branch to work on cataclysm version
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15:55.17RepoAdded DecodeLoc take the reviously encoded location and converts back to x,y, level
15:56.44Aikardoes anyone know if norgana takes user submitted patches for auctioneer? I might try getting into some LUA and write some stuff. few things id like to see in Auctioneer :/
15:57.44Aikar(recently returned to wow a week ago so not up to date on everything as of late)
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16:05.19arkanesAikar: even if he(?) doesn't, no reason you can't run a modified one locally
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16:11.36arkanesboo sfk is still disabled
16:11.49arkanesI thought they said all dungeons were active :(
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16:33.03AckisI just added WoW 4.0.1 as a game version for WoWAce/CF
16:33.49arkanesis there a good way to host on wowace & use the packager and so on with my own repo, or is the best option to have the repo on wowace as well?
16:34.09Ackisyes
16:34.14Ackisit's not well documented
16:35.49Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/repositories/mainline/ -> Repository Management -> Add External Repository
16:35.54Ackisit'll need a .pkgmeta
16:35.56Ackisthat's about all I know
16:36.08Ackisand you s/arl/your project/
16:36.08ParnicWorkackis are there plans to do something on curse similar to wowi's "cataclysm mods" category?
16:36.13arkanesalso along those lines, is there an offline way to test the packager?
16:36.32arkanesor is it best to just commit your .pkgmeta and see what happens
16:36.44AckisParnicWork: on Curse.com there will be, not on CurseForge/WowAce
16:36.51Ackisat least there was one last year for wrath mods
16:37.08Ackisarkanes: you can get the packager code, it's open source... but common practice is to just commit it live
16:37.34harlanyone of you knows if there's a way to play custom starcraft2 maps without having to publish them first?
16:38.02Ackisharl: iirc there is, you put them in a directory, but you might get more mileage in #sc2mapster
16:40.07harlok, thanks
16:43.42XtekWe just talked about this.
16:44.15Ackisto me?
16:45.12XtekNope, in the office.
16:45.19XtekTalking about getting it done asap.
16:45.25asmodaiIt's Xtek
16:45.29XtekYes.
16:45.39asmodaiHullo thar
16:45.55XtekGetting taken care of on Curse.com today.
16:47.40AckisXtek: oh the cataclysm section eh?
16:47.45Xtekyeah
16:48.15Ackishttp://wow.curseforge.com/game-versions/114-4-0-1/ is the new game version so you can link to that, no one uses it just yet however
16:48.36ParnicWorklies, 2 of my latest alphas use it ;)
16:49.00Ackis:(
16:49.04Ackis@project clique
16:49.05RepoAckis: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clique/. Clique. Game: WoW. Cladhaire (Manager/Author). Updated: 47 hours ago
16:50.08Ackisnoq clique does too
16:50.14Ackis@project rostertip
16:50.15RepoAckis: No project found that matches 'rostertip'
16:50.24ParnicWork@project roostertip
16:50.25RepoParnicWork: No project found that matches 'roostertip'
16:50.44Ackisrostertooltip
16:52.07Ackisnow that project uses it too... I'm done my meddling now
16:52.20asmodaiYou always meddle.
16:52.26Ackis:)
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17:00.56durcynhuh, what replaced UNIT_SPELLCAST_foo in 4.0?
17:01.13koaschten18:36… +Ackis: at least there was one last year for wrath mods -> LAST year? i think you meant 2 years ago?
17:01.17Repo10gathermate2 (experimental): 03kagaro 07master * 74f2d3d / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Updating tracking code, and profession checking code.
17:01.34Ackiskoaschten: nit picker! :P
17:01.36sbukoaschten: shhh, its "last year"  because its also "last extension" :p
17:01.40sbuexpansion even
17:01.42koaschtenhrhr
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17:07.19sylvanaar_atworkjnwhiteh: was at lunch sorry, ill have to test after work - but for sure the hook is missing the function arg
17:08.36sylvanaar_atworkjnwhiteh: you'll appreciate this bit in their code:  error("CompactUnitFrames must have a name");
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17:10.27groktarwhoopsie
17:10.36groktar^0|!$
17:10.59sylvanaar_atworkwhat
17:12.11groktari meant to do ^0|1$
17:12.16groktarand i put it on the beta server keke
17:13.06Humbedooh(bb|[^b]{2})
17:13.10Humbedooht'is the question!
17:14.33sylvanaar_atworkbackreferences catastrophically
17:16.05Ackis"We've got a very solid source saying the initial Cataclysm world events are starting today. Gnomer and Echo Isles"
17:16.12Ackiswow.com duder said that
17:16.32sylvanaar_atworkpretty amazing
17:17.15PrimerI've had people hint that Cata will be out in 5 weeks and I told them they're on crack. Thoughts?
17:17.15sylvanaar_atworkhow many events will there be
17:17.29arkanesPrimer: 5 weeks is entirely ridiculous
17:17.38sylvanaar_atworkright now thats not very realistic
17:17.46Primergood
17:17.53Primerbecause I only have 19 shards :(
17:17.54sbu8-9 weeks is my guess
17:17.59sbumid-november
17:18.00sylvanaar_atworkthey will have announced the date if it is that close
17:18.01arkanesI'd expect there to be at least 2 months of 4.0 pre-cata
17:18.28arkaneswell, maybe not 2, but 1 month or more
17:18.45PrimerI've decided I'm not going to sell any of my chest items
17:18.53sylvanaar_atworkthe disks have to be made and the retail boxes sent to the resellers
17:18.57sylvanaar_atworkthat takes time
17:19.00arkanesthe zombie events for wrath started what, like a month before 3.0 hit?
17:19.13arkanesand then I forget how long 3.0 lasted before wotlk launch
17:19.25sylvanaar_atworkyeah, but wrath was relatively finished at that time
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17:19.46arkanesI was in the beta then too, I'm tring to remember how the timelines worked out
17:20.15arkanesI know I'd leveled to 80 on the beta before the zombie event happened
17:20.32sylvanaar_atworkme too
17:20.44arkanesso it was well after they'd opened all the zones and topped out the level cap
17:21.43sylvanaar_atworki havent really seen the endgame yet
17:22.03arkanesI'm just shy of 84 but have been working on addons more than leveling
17:22.09sylvanaar_atworkme too
17:22.21arkanesI don't want to explore the zones too deeply anyway, I'm already kinda sick of vash'jir and hyjal
17:22.39ParnicWorkdoes leveling take twice as long as it did in wrath to make up for the abbreviated level cap boost?
17:22.41arkanespoking around in there on 6 different 80 toons to test mechanics
17:22.49sylvanaar_atwork83 takes forever
17:23.11sylvanaar_atworkgetting through it i mean
17:23.12arkanes81 is very fast, 82 is pretty fast
17:23.20arkanes83 is 6.5 million xp, takes a bit
17:23.33Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-6-ge14a752 TestBravo.toc: [+1 commit] Pointless commit
17:24.07sylvanaar_atworkhow many is 84
17:24.14arkanesnot sure
17:24.37sylvanaar_atworki really wish we got xp from instances
17:24.46arkaneswe do
17:24.58arkanesor at least I did from stonecore & blackrock
17:25.11sylvanaar_atworkat 83?
17:25.18arkaneswell no, at 80
17:25.18ParnicWorkthey've always given xp from instances. has that changed?
17:25.22sylvanaar_atworkseems like it stopped at 83
17:25.28arkanesbut 83 shouldn't be any different
17:25.46Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-7-gcc9b087 TestBravo.toc: [+1 commit] Better revert that last commit, just to be safe.
17:26.42ParnicWorkhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26435283526&sid=2000 "Starting at level 82 you get no exp from instances. You must quest"
17:26.44ParnicWorkouch....
17:27.45arkanesah]
17:28.01arkanesprobably to get people into the new zones more than anything
17:28.09arkanesI doubt they'll push it live like that
17:28.36arkanesbleh there's something going on with my colors
17:28.49arkanesand I'm not sure if its because my frames are overlapping or if theres some craziness
17:29.12arkanesis SetColor mulitplactive if you call it more than once or something?
17:29.20ParnicWorkSetVertexColor is multiplicative, IIRC
17:29.28arkanesthats probably it
17:30.02ParnicWorki'm going to be really sad if the goblin racial for full discounts regardless of rep goes live...i'll pay-convert all my characters to goblins for it :P
17:31.57Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-8-g5de1c8d TestBravo.toc: [+1 commit] Testing X-Compatible-With
17:32.13Ackis@project test-bravo
17:32.14RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/test-bravo/. Test Bravo. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), nismodxn (Author), tonpu (Tester). Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1
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17:40.26Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-9-g3493134 TestBravo.lua: [+1 commit] Pointless commit
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17:46.11Ackisckknight: still not working it looks like?
17:46.22arkanesforgot to set the frame level of the background frame :)
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17:47.50Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-10-g9b22d3e TestBravo.lua: [+1 commit] Pointless commit
17:49.24ckknightAckis: all working
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17:57.42Ackisckknight: nice
17:58.41Ackis# X-Compatible-With: <-- is that ToC or game version based
17:58.42Ackis?
17:59.06RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/cataclysm-addons-and-x-compatible-with/
17:59.48ckknightAckis: I made an announcement ;-)
17:59.58Ackisbeat me to the punch :D
18:00.03AckisI tweeted about it though
18:00.07ckknightk
18:00.36Ackisyou can also ctrl-click game versions as well
18:00.41Ackisin the manual edit interface
18:01.43ckknightfeel free to edit the announcement
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18:24.07Pneumatusgod damn Bibi getting my hopes up :<
18:24.47Bibiwhat? :(
18:25.05Pneumatusthe pre-cata event isn't on EU yet :P
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18:26.32Pneumatusi've just been running around Dun Morogh at TOP TOP SPEED to no avail :<
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18:30.44Humbedoohno surprise there, Pneumatus
18:31.21PneumatusHumbedooh: it could have been timebombed like a seasonal, which is why i had hope
18:31.22Humbedoohlast time they did something in EU before US they got attacked by hordes of angry people with "we defeated the germans for you!!!!"
18:33.49Repo10eclipsebarplus: 03Wrug * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit
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19:08.08PProvostAckis: just replied to your PM regarding titleist
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19:14.11Aikardoes anyone know status on collectors edition? gamestop local stores isnt letting me get CE, saying SKU was removed, but GS website still lists it
19:15.08Ackisthanks, I never bothered looking into it in detail... if it requires a hardware event it seems pointless
19:16.42PProvostyeah
19:16.45PProvostThat's why I bailed on it
19:17.00PProvostI prototyped something that triggered off my nuke button just for fun
19:17.04PProvostbut that sux0r
19:17.25PProvostApparently they did it because some jackass made an addon that changed titles every 5 seconds
19:18.53Ackis=/
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19:26.38Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r161 BankStack.toc:
19:26.40Repoupdate the toc to try and get the zip file list to sort correctly
19:28.24sylvanaar_atworkoh wtf it rebuilds all the zips
19:28.38sylvanaar_atworkhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-stack/repositories/sylvanaar/files/
19:29.55Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar 04cata-01 * r162 : Tagging as cata-01
19:30.04koaschtenhmpfs. anyone can reach elitistarmory.com? not even google dns can resolve it for me
19:30.18Ackissylvanaar_atwork: I don't think it's supposed to
19:30.31sylvanaar_atworkyeah i dont think so either
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19:30.55Ackisckknight: look at http://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-stack/repositories/sylvanaar/files/ is that normal?
19:30.59Ackisafter your changes that is
19:31.09sylvanaar_atworkit was happening before
19:31.23Repo10arl: 03Torhal 07master * v2.01-8-g9458672 Database (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
19:31.24Repo9458672: Removed the Mob Drop filter flag from Warbear Harness - this is a World Drop item.
19:31.26Repo991b32e: Removed the Mob Drop filter flag from ten Alchemy recipes - the Instance filter flag should be the only relevant one, because the Mob Drop flag is intended for unique-mob drops in the world.
19:32.12sylvanaar_atworki guess cata-01 meets the beta regex test
19:32.34Ackisah
19:32.59ckknightsylvanaar_atwork: strange
19:33.08ckknightsylvanaar_atwork: I implemented the X-Compatible-With thing
19:33.22ckknightoh
19:33.31ckknightit built all of em because you made a clone of the repo
19:33.36sylvanaar_atworkyes
19:33.56Pneumatuscloning a repo makes the packager cry emo tears :<
19:33.56sylvanaar_atworkdoes it do that until i tag something?
19:34.26sylvanaar_atworkthat tag seemed to stop the building
19:36.04sylvanaar_atworkanyhow look where 160 and 161 are between duplicate sets of v13-v17
19:36.39Nivare there any actionbars that have paging working on beta yet?
19:36.49sylvanaar_atworki think i killed it
19:36.52Pneumatusdefault ones :)
19:36.57Niv:P
19:39.57Repo10alt-click-to-add-item: 03Ackis 07master * aedbbb5 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
19:39.59Repoaedbbb5: Code change to Ace3.  Dry-coded.  Will eat your babies.
19:40.00Repoea72da8: Update main page text.
19:40.02Repo12419c8: Use embeds.xml switch to Ace3
19:41.10ParnicWork@project alt-click-to-add-item
19:41.11RepoParnicWork: http://www.wowace.com/addons/alt-click-to-add-item/. AltClickToAddItem. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), grennon (Author). Updated: 2 days ago
19:41.57Repo10alt-click-to-add-item: 03Ackis 07master * 6535cd3 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Forgot to update .pkgmeta
19:42.31ParnicWorkackis: i've actually used that mod for a long time, but doesn't the default UI do everything except for auto-buying a full stack with right-clicks now?
19:42.48ParnicWorki mean once upon a time you'd right-click and consume/use the item instead of dumping it into trade or the mail but i don't think that's the case any longer
19:43.12Ackishonestly I don't know, I just got in the habbit of alt-clicking
19:43.35ParnicWorkah, ok :)
19:43.49Ackisplus I like maxed out stacks for my reagents
19:44.30ParnicWorksure, me too.
19:44.31Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar 04cata-01-release * r163 : Tagging as cata-01-release
19:45.14sylvanaar_atworki hope it builds the full zip, it seems to do it only sometimes
19:45.26sylvanaar_atworksomtimes i just get the -nolib
19:46.41ParnicWorki can't decide what i want to do about CancelUnitBuff yet...i don't want to have to code up two paths for "either you get larger self-buffs or the ability to right-click cancel" but it sounds like that's the only choice now.
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19:47.11sylvanaar_atworki think kemayo has been making updates to his other addons so maybe thell update bankstack
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19:52.02sylvanaar_atworkyeah, i think clone packaging is not working
19:53.35AckisI want a clone
19:53.51sylvanaar_atworkit seems to prefer building nolib zips
19:54.04sylvanaar_atworkyeah, me too
19:54.21sylvanaar_atworkactually, i could send him to work every day
19:56.24Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r164 .pkgmeta: no nolib
19:57.14sylvanaar_atworki am bending it to my will
19:58.48Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar 04cata-02-release * r165 : Tagging as cata-02-release
20:02.23sylvanaar_atworkit didnt build that tag for some reason - i give up
20:03.27sylvanaar_atworkoh wow it build the zip then uploads a different one, i see
20:04.14sylvanaar_atworkhttp://www.wowace.com/packager/#w-packager-start-2010-09-07t19-59-21-299849
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21:34.05evlIs there a way to reorder the character selection list?
21:34.28NivI wish
21:34.45Nivthat and the account selection list would be awesome
21:34.49Nivthey don't seem to care
21:35.23dafithat or it's the next paid service
21:35.40Nivgah
21:35.43dafijust speculating
21:35.45Nivthat would make me mad
21:35.48Nivas I paid them
21:35.52NivOCD tax
21:35.59ParnicWorki've noticed when the char selection screen is loading in cata that there are little up/down arrows on the character list that go away when the list loads
21:36.06ParnicWorki wonder if they're intending on raising the 10 chars per server limit
21:36.21genetik-that'd be nice
21:36.22dafithat's that bit i'd suspect would be paid
21:36.23Nivthey said something about that
21:36.49dafithey said it was for internal devs only... but that doesn't mean much
21:37.16Nivthere was an older post saying they were looking into it
21:37.16ParnicWorki've long since maxed that out. i hope it gets a boost
21:40.29NivI have two accounts maxed out at 10 on my main server
21:40.52Niv13 characters that actually get some play time, and 7 mules (iirc)
21:41.54starlonand you find time for addons? :)
21:42.32Nivwell, I don't play them all at once
21:42.36NivI like to rotated through them
21:42.40NivI have 12 character that are 60+
21:42.46Nivrotate*
21:43.29Niv6 80s
21:44.22ParnicWorki love having one of each profession and not having to rely on people to do stuff for me :)
21:46.04Nivyep
21:46.16Nivalthough I never leveled my leatherworker past TBC
21:46.17Nivheh
21:51.21Repo10mizusraidtracker (experimental): 03Mizukichan 07master * v0.14-Beta-13-g307ddb9 / (7 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
21:51.23Repo307ddb9: Changed DataExportFrame to support multiline export data.
21:51.24Repo0a1c724: Added tooltips for export options.
21:51.25Repo963b52c: Added settings for text export
21:51.50sbuckknight: does the curse client also detect game versions? (install target-game that is)
21:52.03ckknightI dunno
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21:52.59sbumh, maybe it should then :P otherwise it would just copy "4.0.0 only" versions to the live wow folder
21:53.38Connor1Operation Gnomeregan is so cool
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22:00.57arkanesI hope its cooler than the cata gnome starting experience
22:01.10arkaneswhich was pretty underwhelming, especially compared to trolls, worgen and goblins
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22:22.58evlWhen do shammys get access to the totem bar?
22:23.01evlI need to test some bar stuff
22:23.13Nivon live?
22:23.21evlyeah
22:23.27Nivlvl 10 I think
22:23.40Nivyou get your fire totem then at least
22:23.48Nivor wait
22:23.51Nivlevel 4 is earth totem
22:24.17evlThen I can see the whole bar thingy or just some of it?
22:24.36NivI'm not 100% sure, my shaman was already lvl 40 by the time they added that
22:24.43NivI assume you'd get the whole bar
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22:25.50Nivit's possible you have to wait until 30 and get call of the elements
22:39.14ccKepI can log on my goblin shaman to check evl
22:39.15ccKepjust a sec
22:39.35ccKeplevel 16 or something like that if I remember correct
22:39.45ccKep(his level, not the level of the totem bar)
22:40.10arkanesevl: it opens up 1 element at a time as you get totems
22:40.31arkanesand then when you get call of earth that shows up at the end
22:40.52ccKepcant you transfer a premade? :o
22:40.57ccKepout of curiousity
22:41.19arkanestransfers are busted, or they still were as of yesterday at least
22:41.46ccKepnvm, I just read the whole story up there... he seems to need it on live anyway ;)
22:43.44Repo10gimplist: 03DrKazza * r28 Gimplist.lua: Final Release version
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22:46.27RepoFinal release version
22:46.32ccKepdid I mention that I _love_ engineering nitro boots + aspect of the fox combo?
22:46.42ccKepin case I didn't: I'm LOVIN it ^.^
23:03.31ccKeplevelup, 65.7k health
23:03.32ccKepme likey
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23:20.30steevdaveso is this gnome stuff the pre-cata event?
23:20.50kagaroguess so
23:21.01kagaroits crammed as hell on ysera alliance side
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23:24.29Yssarilsteevdave: only a small par i imagine
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23:26.39steevdaveit would be awesome if gnomer finally went away
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