IRC log for #wowace on 20100902

00:06.36koaschtenbtw anyone had a chance to see if the female worgen model was in?
00:06.56MegalonHE'S A FURRY!!!
00:07.37Humbedooh:O
00:07.43Humbedoohlynch! lynch! lynch!
00:08.07Humbedoohrabble rabble rabble!
00:08.44koaschtenwhats a furry?
00:09.10koaschtengoogles.
00:09.24koaschtenerr no
00:09.31Humbedoohwaits for koaschten to gasp.
00:09.48Megalon;c
00:10.18koaschtenhttp://www.gemakei.com/media/albums/userpics/10006/furryForKrystal.jpg
00:10.21koaschtenwtf
00:10.53koaschtenit's probably a case of rule #34 ?
00:11.08arkanesfurries were one of the first internet pervert communities
00:11.17arkanespredating the web, even
00:11.25Megaloneveryone is a furry for krystal koaschten, EVERYONE!!
00:11.56Humbedoohye, especially Megalon!
00:12.33Megalonmy nickname isn't starfox for nothing! ;o
00:13.30Humbedooh;o
00:13.43Megalonalthough that goes back to the old days of peppi, slippy and falco on the snes F;
00:14.22koaschtenomg... what did you start there
00:14.50koaschteni have seen alot of strange stuff, but furry porn? homomorphed animals?
00:15.04Megalonyou really never heard of the furries?
00:15.09Megalonwtf, this is the internet
00:15.09koaschtenuhm no
00:15.20Megalonthey are the alligators in NYCs sewer system
00:15.30Megaloneveryone knows they are there
00:15.38Megalonbut you never see one in real life
00:16.06koaschtenso much for beta servers eeh?
00:16.12koaschtenguess i go and get some sleep
00:16.12Megalonmaintenance complete
00:16.20koaschtenservers successfully down :D
00:16.21Megalonsays the bluepost, but nothing about server up ;x
00:16.24arkanessomeone remind me what the syntax for your addons implicit name & table is? is it name, table = ...?
00:17.23Humbedoohgimme a context of that
00:17.50arkanesthey added an implict table for each addon a couple patches ago
00:18.32arkanesI'm trying to think of how to describe it accurately so I can google for it
00:23.38arkanesah hah
00:23.39arkanesI had it right
00:23.49arkanes"When a .lua file is loaded you can now access the name of the AddOn containing it, and an AddOn specific table (essentially an AddOn variable scope) by assigning them from ...: "
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00:33.55sylvanaarold news
00:34.15sylvanaari want to see someone do something with it
00:35.00sylvanaarsomeone needs to write a compat addon which restores the args and this
00:35.08arkaneswell, I'm using it :P
00:35.13sylvanaaryou are?
00:35.15sylvanaarfor what
00:35.34arkanessplitting up global addon stuff into multple files without using an explicitly named global
00:35.46arkanesI can see some possible uses with embedding, too
00:36.08sylvanaari should do that, i have a special global which i define in my first lua file then nil out in my last one
00:36.43arkanestheres got be more than 12 raid buffs
00:36.45arkaneswhat am I forgetting
00:37.22Humbedoohwell which ones you got?
00:37.24arkaneshttp://gist.github.com/561631
00:37.32arkanesthis is cata raid buffs btw, not live
00:37.39Humbedoohmkay
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00:38.03p3limis it possible to remove that blinky thing in the editbox?
00:38.14arkanesthe cursor?
00:38.18p3limcaret
00:38.26arkaneseh
00:38.29arkanesno idea
00:38.54SqueeGuse what?
00:39.03HumbedoohI think it's hard coded into the frame type
00:39.23arkaneslook for API functions with caret in the name
00:39.31p3limI only found :SetBlinkSpeed()
00:39.49p3limsetting it to 0 does not work, it just makes it stop blinking
00:47.00SlikerUse some sort of hack to um.. have a text frame in front of an alpha(0) edit box.
00:47.15SlikerIf you /really/ want to
00:47.59SlikerAlthough that might not work. I'm pretty sure you can interact with alpha(0) things
00:48.10Slikeror maybe edit boxes don't support alpha etc.
00:52.42Slikerp3lim: ?
00:52.55SlikerI'm not sure but it looks like you didn't have success in wowuidev
00:54.37Megalonarkanes: +str/agi buff
00:55.21arkanesMegalon: ah hah thanks
00:55.34Megalonand replenishment
00:55.42Megalonor do you have that filed under mp5?
00:55.43arkanesyeah I noticed that
00:55.47arkanesMp5 is wisdom
00:55.54arkanesor mana spring
00:56.04arkanesadded those 2
00:56.18arkanesman writing out this table for all the providers is going to take forever
00:56.21arkanesstupid data structures
00:56.39Megalonand hp from imp/warrioshout/priest
00:56.57arkanesthats all folded into stamina now I think
00:57.09Megalonoops, missed that
00:57.39arkanesis there any way to have a constant or something in lua, where if i misspell it I don't just get a nil?
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00:59.39Megalonand there is also +10% spellpower, eleshaman
00:59.44Megalonand wl pet spec
00:59.50arkanesis there both 10% and 6%?
00:59.52Megalondemo lock
00:59.56arkanesI thought they were all 6% now
01:00.16Megalonhm, no clue about that
01:00.33arkanespatch notes said they added 6% spellpower to arcane int, so I was assuming they were all the same
01:00.42arkanessince blizz said the plan was no more "improved" vs non buffs
01:01.11Megalonservers are back up :x
01:01.24Megalonflametongue totem is 6% for shaman i guess
01:01.33Megalonbut ele has the talent for ToW with gives 10%
01:01.49arkanesgrr
01:02.08arkanesI was designing this whole thing around not needing to worry about improved vs non
01:02.22koaschtenMegalon next time fuckin highlight me when server is back on !!! ;)
01:03.28Megalonwtf
01:03.31Megalonfuuuuuuuuuu koaschten
01:03.34Megalonkilling server
01:03.44Megalonor draphax0ring me
01:03.45Megalon:(
01:04.01arkanesI got dced but was able to come right back on
01:04.12arkaneshuh thats wierd I'm in the starting location for premades, not where I logged off
01:04.21arkanesoh and i cant move
01:05.26Sliker`this` is a nil value, how nice.
01:07.27arkanescrummy, /dump doesn't work
01:07.47kagaroeu servers up?
01:08.45kagarofinally
01:08.46Megalonmekka just went down
01:08.59koaschtenhmpf
01:08.59Megalonand back up :7
01:09.14kagaroweird ive got a black char selections creen
01:09.18koaschteni was about to click "learn talents"
01:09.28Megalon:D
01:09.31koaschtennot enough pre-loading kagaro
01:09.43koaschtenis fighting the big blue bar boss
01:10.13arkanesfuuuuuuu
01:10.18arkanes10% and 6% spellpower :(
01:13.40kagaroit keeps crashing while trying to setup talents and /script doesnt apparea to work
01:13.55arkanesI'm getting DCed regularly
01:14.00arkanesbut i was able to learn talents
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01:15.45orionshockbeta realms still down?
01:16.50SlikerNope
01:16.57SlikerAs in they're up
01:17.12SlikerGetting DC'd a lot though.
01:17.14arkanesawww, crusader superspeed is gone
01:18.09kagarowowlua doesnt work :(
01:18.31orionshockim getting login problems
01:18.49Stanzillathe new UI stuff is nice
01:20.49SlikerDon't you just love it when the memory could not be "read"
01:21.30orionshockTorhal, u get the beta working on linux/wine?
01:22.49arkanesooh the maestrom is awesome looking
01:23.05arkanesmore than before! but they got rid of the shark :(
01:25.00Yssarilbahh so they enabled addons but forgot to reenable the slash comands
01:25.14arkanesYssaril: yes :(
01:25.49kagaronice, i cant use general or trade channels
01:26.09SlikerThat just happens sometimes
01:26.11Slikertends to fix itself
01:26.34Sliker.. Does to me anyway
01:26.53arkanesnew texture for the minimap arrow
01:26.58arkanesmuch more visible
01:27.28SlikerOh, they fixed goblins crashing the game but now.. worgen do!
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01:28.07orionshockcan someone else on beta try opening the client with the -console flag?
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01:29.21kagaroill try in the morning and see if it stables up some more
01:29.46kagaroanyone see any new prof trainers btw? i was able to train illustrious fishing, but nothing else
01:30.21Slikerorionshock: it works, anything in particular?
01:30.31koaschtenomg
01:30.32orionshockcrashing on my computer
01:30.44koaschteni just did a quest that was a lecture for circle strafing
01:30.54orionshockand it's giving me an unable to connect error
01:31.34Slikerhm. Well, it's working fine here
01:32.02arkaneskoaschten: that one in deepholm?
01:32.28koaschtenwith the dragon matriarch yeah
01:32.51SlikerOh, goblin music is awesome.
01:33.21arkanescrap what happened to the portal back to deephome
01:33.32arkanesah it moved
01:35.45pompyhttp://www.wowhead.com/blog=167467
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01:38.17SqueeGthat was a fast map update?
01:39.08SlikerVoidwalkers have 1 health.
01:39.10SlikerI support this.
01:43.31SqueeGis that a bug?
01:45.20SlikerI assume so
01:47.39orionshockcan someone post the config.wtf vars for windowed mode maximized & in with OpenGL ?
01:47.44orionshockmy computer seems to be stupid
01:49.31kagaroanyone wana gimme a hand real quck to help verify this data http://paste.wowace.com/2398/
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01:50.28Avis_Has anyone else noticed scripts still dont work on beta ?
01:50.47Odlawsigh
01:51.21Avis_tried to /ReloadUI() for like 5 minutes
01:52.41arkanes<PROTECTED>
01:52.43Groktari gave up trying to log in
01:52.47arkanesbut none of hte other slash commands do
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01:53.10arkaneskagaro: what are those counting
01:53.18kagaromap floors
01:53.22Avis_I figure ace console commands should work when I get up to an ace addon
01:53.39kagaroive been working on a new dbc parser for map data to clean up some hand editing i was doing each patch
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01:54.43kagaroso far no hand editing is required, working on having it so it can extract and auto generate a new LibMapData every patch
01:54.57kagaroif there are new maps added
01:55.03kagaroor sizes change etc..
01:55.31arkanescan't check now, wife needs me :(
01:55.44kagaroso far spot checking seems to match up
01:55.57kagaroi cant get the beta to stay up long enough to check
01:56.24orionshock... now that was a bit of a hack.. i copied my live config.wtf settings over to beta & started, and it worked fine :)
01:56.37kagaroweird orionshock
01:56.57Groktarcrawls inside kagaro
01:56.58kagaroill hand edit my mapster if i can get it working to add the new instance maps for double checks
01:57.09kagarohavent checked it yet
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01:58.13orionshockno slash commands...
01:58.19orionshockdoes DevTools still work?
01:58.52kagarodunno wowlua doesnt, luabrowser does
01:59.38Avis_thank god, bugsack works
02:00.09vhaarrthank me, not god :P
02:00.09pompyAddonList.lua: Attempt to index local 'owner' (a nil value) on teh addonlist screen
02:00.56Avis_lol
02:01.39cralorlol
02:02.01cralordoes anyone know the Cata equivalent to ~wowalert ?
02:02.49orionshockunknown atm.. it would require ripping the GlueXML out.
02:03.03orionshockthat's currently like trying to get the current interface folder out too
02:03.04Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr * r6 .pkgmeta: Another change to add tools used to .pkgmeta file.
02:03.28kagaroill extract the ui in the morning since the addon kit isnt working
02:04.12orionshockkagaro, can u grab the GlueXML folder while your at it :)
02:04.34kagaroya
02:04.54orionshockthx that way we can pull out the new URL's for stuff
02:04.55kagaroif nev doesnt beat me to it on hsi git
02:07.43orionshockwell... looks like guild craft isn't dead afterall
02:07.55orionshocktho it's pretty dam close to being dead
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02:08.59cralorcool!
02:09.10cralorwell, I'll be back tomorrow and see if you guys were successful ;)
02:09.10pompy283 errors on login on the beta,  with my addon set from live
02:09.12pompyheh
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02:15.13Avis_I'm going one at a time and fixing things as I go lol
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02:16.16Odlaw1 down.. a bunch to go
02:19.06Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr * r7 Localization.lua: Changed comments in the localization file.
02:19.49Torhalorionshock: Nah, I refuse to use an unofficial patch due to possibile regressions. If it isn't in the development Wine, there's probably a good reason.
02:20.22TorhalThough if you don't have any qualms, that's the route to take.
02:23.13orionshockTorhal, i finally got it to work.. had to import my live config.wtf file over
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02:28.08Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr * r8 Localization.lua: Another change to the localization.lua file.
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02:30.11Avis_Did they remove GetSpellName() ?
02:30.54orionshockAvis_, are you trying /dump GetSpellName() ?
02:31.16Torhalorionshock: Ah, I can't even get the new installer to work :)
02:31.21kagarodump doesnt work
02:31.27Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr * r9 .pkgmeta: Added Tools Used to .pkgmeta file.
02:31.46Avis_attempt to call global 'GetSpellName' (a nill value) =p
02:31.58Avis_makes sense anyway, getspellinfo does the same plus some
02:31.59orionshockhumm... sickofclickingdailies seems to work just fine atm
02:32.33arkaneshttp://gist.github.com/561746
02:32.50arkanesanyone think of anything important I missed, either in buffs or structurally?
02:36.12Avis_5% melee/ranged and spell crit are seperate buffs arent they ?
02:37.01arkanesI dont think so
02:39.21orionshock? there is a cogwheel gem?
02:39.33Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr * r10 Localization.lua: Changes to the comments in the localization.lua file.
02:39.35arkanesyeah its not in yet
02:39.40arkanesengineering only benefit
02:39.41Avis_Engineer only gems eventually
02:40.05orionshock^.^
02:40.28arkanesprobably only in engineer-only gear
02:41.32Avis_I hope they let the engineer helms be upgraded this xpac
02:41.39Avis_made me sad to stop using mine in wrath
02:43.28Avis_GameTooltip:SetSpell() seems broken
02:44.05arkanessomething like it must work, because I have tooltips for my regular bars
02:44.35arkanesdid nev unpack the blizzrd UI stuff yet?
02:48.22Megalonso every quest item in uldum is single loot
02:48.25Megalonthat's a nice touch
02:48.29Megalon:7
02:48.39kagarogot an example Megalon?
02:50.47arkaneshooray my auracaster addon works
02:50.57pompywtf my live client jus crashed "Expr:Internal Battle.net Error: "
02:51.05Megalonkagaro: every quest item drops once
02:51.09bluspacecowhmmm
02:51.10Megalonalso the drops from named
02:51.13bluspacecowinteresting pompy
02:51.15Megalonso those are camped like crazy
02:51.21bluspacecowtry changing your battle.net password
02:51.25Megalonbecause being in a group doesn't help, one man can loot it :x
02:51.28bluspacecowO/S ?
02:51.43orionshocklooks like DevTools is hard broken. even with the old dev tools addon loaded /dump dosn't work
02:51.50Megalonand in twilight highlands you can't quest as horde
02:52.18Megalonas the breadcrumb quest doesn't finish
02:52.34Megalonand all mobs on the land stay neutral in the horde town and give you nothing :S
02:53.12orionshockhowever if you rename the slash command to /dt instead of /dump it works fine :)
02:53.36arkanesorionshock: you just copied devtools from live?
02:53.45orionshockthe old addon on wowinterface
02:53.53orionshockthe original
02:53.58arkaneslet me do that before I relogin, then
02:54.40orionshockarkanes, open "DevToolsDump.lua" ln 391, change the slash command to dt instead of Dump
02:54.51orionshockor something
02:55.42arkanesthanks
02:56.49arkaneswoops forgot to update toc
02:57.19orionshockarkanes, no change there
02:57.30orionshocknow i just need an updated API List on wowwiki
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03:11.31Avis_hmm
03:11.42Avis_need a replacement for GameTooltip:SetSpell
03:13.17arkanesAvis_: SetSpellBookItem
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03:17.04arkanesisn't there some GetUnitSpec or GetPlayerSpec type function somewhere
03:17.38Megalonuldum is really weird with its questflags
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03:17.48Megalononly one can loot quest items
03:17.58Megalonbut i fly by as alliance kills an elite mob
03:18.03Megalonand i get the quest done :x
03:18.16Megalonfor protection the chobo npc :>
03:19.24orionshockok, this is frustrating ....
03:19.28Humbedoohwell there's the talent tree stuff if that's what you're refering to, arkanes
03:19.42Humbedoohbut I don't think there's a shorthand for "spec"
03:19.43orionshocki can't figure out how blizzard is opening the tradeskill frame when you click on a guildies name in the roster.
03:19.58orionshockthere is ViewGuildRecipes(skillID) but that's not helping
03:19.59arkanesHumbedooh: thats what I'm trying to dig through
03:20.51HumbedoohI usually just decipher combat logs to determine the spec of someone
03:21.17arkanesit knows what your current specialization is, because its highlighted in the talent pane
03:21.23arkanesand thats what I'm trying to find
03:21.32arkanesI'll deal with other players some other day :P
03:21.45Humbedoohoh that thing
03:22.01Humbedoohwell I guess it just tallies up how many points you've spent in each tree
03:22.18arkanescould be
03:22.46arkanesbleh if I'm gonna do that I guess I should figure out how to do it for other players too
03:22.59HumbedoohThere's the uhm...GetActiveTalentGroup
03:23.41arkaneshmmmm
03:23.54arkanesthere has to be something more direct, because inspecting someone shows thier spec
03:24.04arkanesI guess its time to start unpacking framexml
03:33.29orionshockarkanes, grep it for "PlayerSpecTab1", im sure blizzard either is doing magic by hand or there is an unseen API return
03:34.05RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/meet-ckknight-at-dragon-con-sept-3-6/
03:37.20Avis_lol, something is blocking me from talking in channels ingame
03:37.47Humbedoohslash thingies are broken ;(
03:42.05orionshockAvis_, log out and back in
03:46.40orionshockis it me or is blizzard's UI design for the guild roster just horrible?
03:50.08arkanesbah the blizzard tool doesnt do the beta
03:50.12arkaneswhich I should have expected
03:50.41arkanesI guess I need an mpq tool or something?
03:51.04kagarompq tool
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03:52.50arkaneshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-ItsAllCogwheelsFaultrundumpfix.html
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04:02.59Avis_GameTooltip:SetSpellById() works, but not SetSpell()
04:04.07Blu|NeedsNewPutehttp://www.mysticalos.com/images/cataclysm/new_launcher.jpg
04:04.19Blu|NeedsNewPutelolz @ public address listed
04:05.22arkaneswhats wierd about that?
04:07.35arkanesoh cool, tekkub already has all the UI stuff extracted
04:07.47arkaneshttp://github.com/tukz/wow-ui-source-cataclysm
04:12.54orionshockaight.... next addon.. Better GuidUI
04:13.02orionshockcuz damn, their blows
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04:18.30orionshocklol a guild ability called "G-Mail"
04:20.58Avis_What was the difference between this and self anyway
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04:21.28Odlaw4 letters
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04:23.46TorhalAvis_: "this" was a global, whereas "self" is a Lua 5.1 construct
04:24.50Torhaltable:function(arg) is the same as table.function(self, arg) with the "self" being implicitly included.
04:25.16TorhalThough using the latter form, you can name it something other than "self", of course.
04:40.05arkanes92703997
04:40.26arkanesman I need to stop doing that
04:40.33quiescenso.o
04:41.01arkaneswtb OS with "focus follows paying attention" technology
04:42.17quiescenshardly, it would randomly focus on nothing every 10 seconds
04:51.42Repo10broker_bubbletoggle: 03Monk1nr 04Release V1.0.3 * r11 : Tagging as Release V1.0.3
04:51.50Repo10grid: 03Phanx * r1311 GridFrame.lua: - More checks on tex coords
04:51.52Repo- Prevent texture squishing on horizontal bars too
04:52.32arkanessince when is there a low level priest quest to make a staff?
04:53.55Repo10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1312 : - Create branch for Ace3 conversion
04:56.20pompyif anyone is 83 on the beta .. whats the xp to level for 83-84?
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04:57.19Repo10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1313 :
04:57.21Repo- Apparently wowace repos (probably correctly) don't want me to manually create the folder first...
04:57.29Repo10grid: 03Phanx 07ace3 * r1314 / (24 files in 2 directories): - Ace3 conversion
05:01.18Avis_6.5m xp from 83-84
05:01.27Avis_oop hes off lol
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05:02.29Avis_Any idea what that means ?
05:05.04arkanesAvis_: the GetManagedEnvironment function doesn't exist
05:05.24Cypriasatleast not when the upvalue was created.
05:05.28CypriasI think
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05:12.59TorhalAvis_: You're trying to call an upvalue which has been declared but not yet defined within the calling function's scope.
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05:15.40Avis_*comments out that line* hope it doesnt do anything important
05:15.57Humbedoohoh it only runs the entire game ;o
05:16.05Humbedoohand makes the world go round!
05:16.11Avis_lol
05:16.45Humbedoohhrrrmm, how do I get this pesky scrollbar to stop sending 1000 updates every second whenever it's placed at a specific point
05:16.50kapipiAnd keeps tens of thousands of bunnies alive.
05:17.42Avis_comment it out =O
05:18.07Avis_or throttle it ?
05:19.10HumbedoohI'm trying, I'm trying ;<
05:23.01Avis_I like how 1 'this' instead of 'self' in thousands of lines of code anahilates an addon
05:23.11TorhalIt's amazing how many people "fixed" Cartographer several times after it was declared dead because they "commented out a bunch of stuff until it stopped erroring"
05:23.22Avis_lol
05:24.00Avis_i'm pretty sure that line had something to do with tooltips anyway, which is moot because i have them disabled
05:31.12arkanesso raid buffs are full of inconsistencies
05:31.14arkanesGC lied to me :(
05:34.27Avis_sigh, satrina buff frames has almost exclusivly this instead of self
05:38.17Humbedoohdid you know...
05:38.46Humbedoohthat satrina is an anagram for sinatra ;o
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05:41.37Humbedoohand now to solve the mystery of the disappearing frames...
05:45.20Avis_>.>
05:45.27Avis_SetBackdropColor() seems to be a nil value
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05:55.11TorhalAvis_: The variable name "this" isn't automatically evil. If it isn't declared as local within, or as a parameter of, the function which uses it, then it's a deprecated case. Otherwise, it's just another damn variable name. :P
05:57.28Avis_<PROTECTED>
05:58.01TorhalAs I said, if it's declared as a local variable (or an upvalue) or a parameter of the function, it's just another variable.
05:58.15Torhal"this" is a name. They specifically state that the -global- this is deprecated.
05:58.23TorhalBlindly renaming every 'this' isn't productive.
05:58.41Avis_i just know that renaming every this to self has made everything stop throwing errors lol
05:59.20TorhalAre you trying to get AddOns working in the beta?
05:59.24TorhalIf so...BWAHAHAHA
05:59.26Torhal:D
05:59.26arkanesits pretty likely that any "this" in a well written, but outdated, addon can be replaced by self
06:00.16Torhalarkanes: However, if there is no "self" declared (whether implicitly or explicitly) it's still an error - it's referencing an undefined global "self"
06:00.20nevcairielThey really removed the globals now?
06:00.22nevcairielfinally.
06:00.24Avis_Not trying, i've got just about everything working so far
06:00.26Torhalnevcairiel: Yup
06:00.41arkanesTorhal: sure, but globaly replacing this is a decent place to start
06:00.48nevcairielcan't wait for the weekend when i actually have time to check on the latest stuff
06:01.07Torhalarkanes: sure, if you know what you're doing and not blindly commenting out the lines that still error.
06:01.30Avis_I'm not actually commenting out lines rofl
06:02.03nevcairielare so many addons broken or why the evil laughter?
06:02.23TorhalAvis_ | *comments out that line* hope it doesnt do anything important  
06:02.28arkanessurprisingly many work without a hitch actually
06:02.31TorhalI was referencing that :)
06:02.33arkanesor very minor hitches
06:02.41Avis_ah was kindof a joke =p
06:02.47TorhalAh, okay
06:03.14TorhalI thought you were doing a Cartographer-style "fix".
06:03.23Avis_spent the last few hours digging through the new framexml trying to find changes
06:03.28nevcairielremoving code until it works is not fixing =)
06:03.34TorhalPrecisely
06:03.37Avis_like getspellname being gone and replaced by getspellinfo
06:05.33arkaneshmph I need a level 80 lock
06:05.40arkanesand probably hunter
06:07.04nevcairielmy worgen is probably going to be a huntard
06:07.07Avis_this would be so much easier if scripts worked ingame
06:07.20nevcairielthey enabled addons but forgot to enable /script? :d
06:07.41TorhalYes
06:07.45TorhalBut, here's a fix:
06:07.47Torhalhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-1.html
06:07.50TorhalA fucking AddOn
06:07.52TorhalHaha
06:07.55TorhalAnd I love the name.
06:08.18Avis_haha awsome
06:08.39nevcairielhehe
06:08.48ccKepso, beta servers up again?
06:09.02Repo10qa-manager (experimental): 03AsaAyers * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): Fixing .pkgmeta?
06:09.04RepoFixing .pkgmeta?
06:09.05RepoInitial version with support for thresholds from ItemAuditor costs and fallbacks using Auctioneer market price.
06:09.23arkanescan anyone confirm or deny for me that felhunter has the max mana buff, and if so tell me what it's spell id is?
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06:17.25ccKepmeh @ my hunter being teleported to IF graveyard and unable to move -.-
06:17.32arkanesccKep: relog
06:17.43ccKepyeah, takes like 2mins^
06:17.45sbumhhh meh, servers are online and i have to go to work :p
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06:18.58kapipiHmm, is there any word on the cata release date yet?
06:19.21ccKepnothing apart from "when its done" I think
06:19.28kapipiOk
06:19.44arkaneshuh imps have a friendly dispel now?
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06:19.51nevcairielbest guess is that the date might be announced on blizzcon
06:20.08ccKepsomeone here on Mekkatorque?
06:20.12arkaneswas that not announced, or did I just entirely miss it?
06:20.14quiescensmoo
06:20.24nevcairielthe announcement was announced?
06:20.25nevcairieli dunno
06:20.33arkanesoh, no, the new imp ability
06:20.35arkanes"Singe Magic"
06:20.36ccKepguess he's talking about imp dispell (if it has one)
06:20.40nevcairieloh
06:20.49nevcairielprobably was
06:20.52arkanesI guess its offensive dispel, too
06:21.01arkanesworks like shaman purge except it also does damage, including to friendly targets
06:21.12arkanesso what happens to the felhunter, I wonder
06:21.12sbunevcairiel: "and surprise, cataclysm will be available TONIGHT!!!11" :p
06:21.23nevcairielarkanes: singe magic is friendly only
06:21.42ccKepI can try to transfer a premade arkanes, was going to transfer one anyway for gems
06:21.48arkanesit's got a range line in the tooltip for enemy targets
06:21.50sbu*shrug* my guess is something like mid-november, just like wotlk
06:21.55nevcairielhttp://cata.wowhead.com/spell=89808
06:21.55arkaneslet me see
06:21.59nevcairielthe text is pretty clear
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06:22.27sbubut i need some days off from work then, and i need to make a request some weeks earlier :o
06:22.42sbuso giev cata release date...
06:22.44nevcairieli'm still pondering if i should take some days off and shoot for first druid 85
06:22.50arkanesthe enemy range tooltip is just a glitch then yes
06:23.01arkanesjust confirmed its friendly only
06:23.12sbunevcairiel: well its fun, so, yes!! :P
06:23.12ccKepon live or beta @ nev?
06:23.24nevcairielwho cares bout beta, lol
06:23.32ccKepdunno, there are sickos ;)
06:23.35arkanesccKep: I think I'm actually going to go to bed and finish this up tomorrow
06:23.52Repo10qa-manager (experimental): 03AsaAyers * r3 .pkgmeta: Fixing the packaging. It should be QAManager not qa-manager
06:24.23nevcairielsbu: i suppose, still have some vacation left for this year
06:24.30ccKepanyone here on mekkatorque (alliance) ? want to check if anything has changed on the raid frames in this build :D
06:24.58arkanesif anyone feels like filling this out, PM me and I'll check the log in the morning
06:25.02arkaneshttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/257430/
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06:25.49sbunevcairiel: same here (although its my first 1/2 year :p) - and i also have already 2-3 days overtime, so its fine
06:27.02nevcairieljust took my overtime :p
06:27.08ccKepwondering if hunter survival mastery tooltip is bugged
06:27.09nevcairielbut i'll probably have a few days until then again
06:27.39ccKepIncreases all elemental damage you deal by 20%. Each point of Mastery increases pet damage by an additional 2.5%.
06:27.41ccKep:o
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06:28.22sbunevcairiel:  stopped trying to get rid of it by going home earlier, taking full days off is more effective :p
06:30.35arkaneshah http://paste.pocoo.org/show/257431/
06:30.40arkanestried to copy a character before I left
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06:33.30nevcairielinteresting to know that they use spring mvc though =p
06:34.01evlI hate it when developers don't list an SVN/Git account, grrr
06:34.15evlI also hate that you can't search comments on Wowinterface, much hate today, much
06:35.21ccKepI'm loooovin the "World Marker" stuff raid leaders / assistants can use :O
06:35.30ccKepdisco time
06:35.41arkanesoh wow I haven't seen that
06:35.43arkanesmust play
06:35.48arkanesaargh also must sleep
06:35.54ccKepsec, I'll do screenshot
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06:36.50ccKepguess my client just crashed
06:37.22ccKepnew raid frames look very grid-like
06:37.32ccKep+there is an interface for raid leaders
06:38.10ccKepscreenshot inc
06:38.37ccKephttp://img713.imageshack.us/img713/963/wowscrnshot090210083658.jpg
06:38.52evlit's a flare?
06:39.13evlhaven't those been in the game since vanilla?
06:39.15ccKepyeah, but persistent
06:39.28ccKephttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2030/wowscrnshot090210083743.jpg
06:39.31quiescensthey're magical metaflares
06:39.41arkanesthats pretty awesome
06:39.55quiescensrather than an ingame item
06:40.15kapipiHmm how will flares look underwater
06:40.27ccKep*jumps into the canals*
06:40.56ccKepwell.. nothing spectacular ^.^
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06:43.02kapipiSmoke should spread differently in water.
06:43.15kapipiHowever, these are *magical* flares you said.
06:43.41quiescensmagical
06:43.49evlThey add all these nice bells and whistles but where are the standard old ui updates :/
06:44.04Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r114 .hgtags: Added tag Release 2010-09-01 for changeset 52e8cad9ccc4
06:45.17RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomexcel/. Gnomexcel. Humbedooh (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
06:46.25RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_bubbletoggle/. Broker_BubbleToggle. Monk1nr (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
06:48.16Humbedoohhrmm
06:48.21HumbedoohI didn't flag it as experimental
06:48.39TorhalHumbedooh: I know, but it had nothing to it so I did.
06:48.52TorhalAnything I can't examine goes straight to experimental.
06:48.52Humbedoohmkay
06:49.31Humbedoohcan I make a joke about women here? ;>
06:49.36TorhalUnless you're well-established, at which point you've probably earned somewhat of a rubber stamp.
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06:49.40ccKepanyone know what 2nd profession premades have?
06:50.37TorhalHumbedooh: Well, I don't see Cairenn or Seerah...you might not lose a nipple.
06:50.49Avis_sweet
06:50.54Avis_clique = fixed
06:50.59Avis_that should be nice with the new party frames
06:51.07Humbedoohwell I was gonna say that women would have to be considered experimental by you as well then ;p
06:51.10TorhalAvis_: Lemme guess - you got rid of getglobal calls? :)
06:51.18TorhalHumbedooh: Always!
06:51.59orionshockTorhal, am i an established author?
06:52.03orionshock:)
06:52.24Torhalorionshock: Yah, you know not to hard-embed libraries or make a bajillion global variables/functions.
06:52.27Avis_this one took a little more work, had to change the way it gets the spell name of the button you're clicking when binding
06:52.35orionshockTorhal, i can fix that :)
06:52.40Humbedoohone time! I did it one time! ;(
06:52.43Torhalorionshock: Bah!
06:53.36TorhalHumbedooh: Point is if you have less than a handful of approved projects on WoWAce, you're scrutinized :)
06:53.46TorhalAfter that we figure you probably know better.
06:53.54Humbedoohnever!
06:54.03TorhalFiskers Humbedooh.
06:54.07Humbedooh:<
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06:54.16Humbedoohdon't wake him
06:54.21orionshock...oh no he invoked the Fisker
06:54.51Humbedoohhurry, syl, you can still log off before it's too late!
06:55.16orionshocki hate the new guild UI and API
06:55.19orionshockjust horrible...
06:55.34Yssarilorionshock: what did they do?
06:56.14orionshockYssaril, take what's there already, add in PvP, Professions and Acheivements and then cram it all into a space smaller than what we have atm
06:56.18Repo10pokedex: 03stencil * r76 globals.lua: Fix a bug with the X-53 rocket.
06:56.36Yssarilorionshock: ouch
06:56.46orionshockthen Backasswards the API like someone who's overly ADDDDD and likes to use collateral events to do things.
06:57.13orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:57.35orionshockthen add a touch of black magic to make everyone wonder wtf is going on
06:57.39Yssarili'm just happy they fixed GetCurrentMapAreaID() :)
06:58.09Yssarilit used to return the ID + 1 for no reason
06:58.13orionshockand then design it with more than 50% of the UI in XML
06:58.22orionshockBlizzard Style
06:59.38Yssarilhehe
06:59.59orionshockI've seen new addon authors write better >.>
07:00.05Repo10pokedex: 03stencil * r77 Pokedex.toc: update toc
07:00.06orionshockaka: Alar
07:00.12Yssarilburn
07:00.30orionshockatleast i could understand his code....
07:02.52orionshockYssaril, if want an example, go figure out how the Guild/Tradeskill UI's show you people that can craft a certain item
07:03.39Yssarilorionshock: ever tried to look through the calendar code?
07:04.06orionshocki skimmed though it, looked like machine code to me.. all gibberish
07:04.44orionshockreading group cal was a bit easier
07:05.15orionshockand that man coded like like it was a bachelor pad.. shit everywhere.
07:05.25Yssarili'm thinking they got some new interface devs somewhere along the way
07:05.28Repo10pokedex: 03stencil 04Release v3.3.12 * r78 : Tagging as Release v3.3.12
07:06.16orionshockIMO they should just hire Tekkub, Xin, Irial and Clad to do it :)
07:06.36Yssarilhehe
07:09.13orionshockhell pay em 100$+ hr, it'd be money well spent :)
07:10.43ccKeporion: isnt there GUILD_TRADESKILL_UPDATE, then QueryGuildRecipes(), GetGuildTradeSkillInfo(rosterIndex) ?
07:11.09TorhalYssaril: They did get new devs. There are semicolons everywhere now and other C-like syntax.
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07:13.19orionshockTorhal, the main problem is that they write their UI code and API for them, not for addons.
07:13.42orionshockAll their code is written to ONLY accomidate their own needs with out any real regard for other addons
07:14.51ccKepdidn't they add the UnitGUID stuff just for addon developers?
07:14.58ThaokyI second that, their code is UI-driven, not data-driven
07:15.02Torhalorionshock: Yes, but they have the wonderful caveat of "We don't officially support AddOns"
07:15.48TorhalAnywho, it's 3:15am. I intended to be asleep by or before 11pm.
07:16.00orionshockTorhal, it's more than that.. it's the mentality they write to spite us
07:16.32ccKep9/2 09:11:23.799  error in error handling
07:16.32ccKeplovin framexml.log
07:16.32orionshockThaoky, i think that occourances like that are by special request / support by the long time UI Authors that have backdoor contacts and favors :)
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07:17.39ThaokyI don't mind too much, we can usually work around the way they do things.. it would just be nice if they slightly modify their approach :)
07:18.27Thaokys/modifiy/modified
07:18.53orionshockless multi function requirements and better raw index api's.   Like why is the there an API to remember what the selected tradeskill index is?
07:19.09orionshocksrsly, make a local variable for it
07:19.25orionshockor do what most people do, add it as a table key to your main frame.
07:20.09Thaokyor GetNumTradeskills() which returns the number of visible lines .. damn I hate that one :x
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07:21.23orionshockI can understand making the api respect filter options, as you can do that at C level faster than with Lua, but srsly they have API's everywhere to hold indexes that no one cares about
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07:22.34ThaokyThe same result could have been achieved by having maybe one or two more functions : one to get the raw data, a few others to manage filters/indexes, and voilà
07:24.44orionshockimo the UI should have access to all UI related data that the client has regardless of situation. like tradeskills, you should be able to arbitrarily query the mats / requirements, ect of any craftable item regardless if you have that profession or if the frame is open
07:25.38Thaoky+1
07:26.31Yssarilorionshock: i think people have dreamed of that since we could first write addons for wow :P
07:26.37ThaokyI guess they've just been a bit too conservative about resource consumption
07:27.57ccKepprofessions still bugged for premades :(
07:28.17orionshockmost systems have 4gb of ram in them today, XP can only use 4gb, only with vista can u get 6gb or higher IIRC, and srsly wow loads up into the 2gb range initally and with raids into the 3gb range easily.
07:29.01Avis_Oh wow, the new glyph interface looks amazing
07:30.12orionshockimo if i could pay for one feature in the Default UI, it would be resizeable frames. Like the Guild UI, just make it a bit wider. U know somethings wrong in design when your new section has 10 lines and they are all clipped because they are too long.
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07:33.45ccKepatleast premade locks start with a dozen soulshards
07:36.02YssarilccKep: i hope your trying to be sarcastic (locks don't gather shards into bags anymore)
07:37.51ccKepyeah, that was the intention :d
07:38.41ccKepalso: starting with 20 cardinal rubys and also with 40 sapphire spellthreads
07:38.54ccKepsomething's srsly wrong with the guys designing that
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07:54.50Repo10guild-search: 03talryn1 * r12 GuildSearch.lua: Removing usage of this for Cataclysm
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07:56.18orionshock_G.this is going to go away, but you can still use "this" as a variable name :)
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08:10.56mitch0orionshock: obviously that't the Right Thing (tm) to do :)
08:11.48orionshockhehe someone got it :)
08:13.22mitch0it's a bit of a shame that there's still "this" usage in addons nowadays
08:13.32mitch0it was discouraged since 2.0 (or even before...)
08:13.48mitch0actually, it was a bad idea from the start ;)
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08:38.51Yssarilmitch0: it was needed if you used xml scripts back in the day
08:39.14mitch0xml scripts were a bad idea, too :)
08:39.20Yssaril:P
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08:53.30jnwhitehkagaro: what doesn't work about WowLua?
08:53.37jnwhitehI haven't had a chance to test it out yet
08:53.45jnwhitehbut I can get it fixed =)
08:54.31jnwhitehAvis_: what's 'fixed' abotu Clique?
08:54.39jnwhitehI'm missing context, just seeing the scrollback =)
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08:58.03mitch0fisker: do you play cata beta?
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09:05.09jnwhitehjrm
09:05.14jnwhitehI'm unsure why wowlua doesn't work
09:05.16jnwhitehno errors either
09:06.54Avis_'local id = SpellBook_GetSpellID(frame:GetParent():GetID()); local name, rank = GetSpellName(id, SpellBookFrame.bookType)' didn't seem to work anymore
09:07.12Avis_so changed to ' local slot = SpellBook_GetSpellBookSlot(frame:GetParent()); local name = GetSpellBookItemName(slot, SpellBookFrame.bookType) '
09:07.15Avis_and other stuff like that
09:12.55p3lim^what character is \031 ?
09:16.36mitch0p3lim: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/19/index.htm
09:16.45mitch0assuming it's in octal
09:16.51Thaokyhuh .. since the skills pane has disappeared, is there a way to know a player's riding skill ?
09:17.20YssarilThaoky: achivements is actually the easiest way to do it now :)
09:17.47Yssarilat least in 3.x it is
09:17.48Thaokymmm.. yeah, if I can't find anything else, I'll do it that way, good suggestion :)
09:20.06YssarilAchievement:Skill = 891:75  889:150 890:225 892:300
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09:20.19Thaokythanks !
09:20.26Yssarilnp ;)
09:20.56Yssarilam not sure what the new 310% flying skill is but that will take care of all the regular stuff
09:21.11Thaokyjust bought it, I'll check the id :)
09:21.25jnwhitehAvis_: Okay, should be a relatively easy fix, but i'll see what I can do
09:21.56Thaokyjust bought it .. and tbh, the additional 30% are not worth 5k :/
09:22.18Yssaril:P
09:22.24mitch0eh, today's dilbert tipped me off to an interesting read
09:22.28mitch0http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
09:22.40Nivhoray, bartender4 sort of works on beta
09:22.46Nivand sUF and sexymap
09:22.48Nivand chatter
09:22.49Nivheh
09:23.02mitch0niv: do you use Bazooka by any chance? or RangeDisplay? :)
09:24.34Nivnope
09:24.46mitch0too bad :)
09:24.50Nivwhy? :P
09:24.58mitch0I'd welcome some beta feedback on those :)
09:25.22quiescensmoo
09:25.41Nivhopefully nev fixes up bartender a bit :)
09:25.57Nivand I'm sad that SBF isn't working
09:30.28evlIn Widgets, an instances metatable.__index always points to the template it was created from?
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09:51.51koaschtenNiv gief :D
09:54.42quiescensdon't do it!
09:55.13sbumh, curse should include some "cataclysm" package state (cataclysm+alpha+beta+release)
09:55.24sbuso downloader can actually fetch those stuff without killing regular alpha users
09:56.23vhaarrevl: acegui-3.0 widgets, you mean? if so, no
09:56.39evlI mean ActionButton1Cooldown.__index == Cooldown?
09:56.56evlI'm not home so can't boot up, was just curious, I'm trying to wrap my head around metatables
09:57.13Elkanosbu, I'd rather want branch support, that would fix it, too
09:58.14sbuElkano: right
09:58.27sbuits cataclysm this time but may be something differenet next time
09:58.32sbu(4.1, whatever)
09:58.41sbuso yes, "branch" would fix it even better
09:58.45sbugiev ckknight, Kaelten  :)
10:04.49koaschtenomg
10:04.58koaschtenIsh has earned Achievement! Realm First Warlock
10:05.03koaschtenlvl 85
10:05.06sbuwtf is wrong with those people
10:05.22Elkanowell, someone has to get it ^^
10:05.29nebulalol on which server?
10:05.33sbuEU
10:05.59koaschteneu mekka
10:07.44koaschteni feel so normal, i slept 6 hours and am only half to 84 :/
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10:09.29nebulawish they had a ptr armory set up or such, to check realm first! feats, lol
10:09.56nebulahaven't head over to uldum yet, but everything in guild was complaining about how much slower than deepholm it was
10:18.05koaschtenthe worst about deepholm -> THIS IS MY CAVE MYYYYY CAVE
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11:02.45evlkoaschten: my cave is amazing?
11:03.09koaschtenthat shroom munchin mob gets annoying quickly
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11:05.09sbuevl: yes, your cave is amazing, and so is fiskers :|
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11:39.19koaschtenthere we go, realm firsthunter
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11:40.49KalrothI thought they said it was harder to level
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11:51.46dafihi, does anyone know what's sposed to replace GetSpellName()?
11:51.54dafiin 4.0
11:52.08jnwhitehI haven't had a chance to run an API scan
11:52.08jnwhitehI'll do that this evening
11:52.08jnwhitehlong overdue =)
11:52.15jnwhitehbut couldn't do it before this patch, obv.
11:52.45dafinvm, finaly saw the thread in the beta forums, seems it's replaced by GetSpellInfo
11:57.06mitch0GetSpellInfo was there already
11:57.32mitch0hohum
11:58.08dafiwell the thread says to use GetSpellInfo or GetSpellBookItemName
11:58.55mitch0why is GetSpellName in AceGUI? /me goes to check
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11:59.34mitch0ah, for drag-and-drop
11:59.49mitch0dafi: link to thread please
12:00.04mitch0I need to update some of my addons, too :(
12:00.10sbugerman only: http://www.rhein-zeitung.de/regionales_artikel,-Heisses-Date-abgelehnt-Frauen-Paar-pruegelt-sich-im-Auto-auf-A3-_arid,130260.html - WTF :)
12:01.42Stanzillawtf
12:01.58dafisec
12:02.06dafihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26726032552&sid=2000
12:02.38mitch0thanks
12:02.46dafialso, seems http://github.com/tukz/wow-ui-source-cataclysm/ has the extracted interface
12:03.45mitch0wtf is subSpellName
12:03.55dafi*shrugs*
12:04.30mitch0anyway, GetSpellBookItemName seems a trivial replacement for GetSpellName
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12:09.52mitch0hoho, the end of libhealcom?
12:12.21mitch0gah. frame backrops are deprecated :(
12:12.32mitch0I need a howto for replacing them
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12:23.40sylvanaarsaid in wowuidev:
12:23.41sylvanaarhave a suggestion - re: addons compatible with cata
12:23.47sylvanaaradd a toc field X-Compatible-With: 40000
12:23.54sylvanaarthis way I can show that In ACP
12:24.01sylvanaarand other tools can use it too
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12:40.11Repo10liblinq-1-0: 03ckknight 07master * ba52148 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add :Clone() methods to List, Set, and Dictionary
12:47.01Repo10gimplist: 03DrKazza * r24 Gimplist.lua: 0.51b
12:47.02RepoWorking communications module
12:51.07sbuckknight: *ping*
12:51.39ckknightsbu: pong
12:51.56sylvanaarckknight: what do you think about my suggestion?
12:51.56Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2764 / (7 files in 2 directories): -- now works with cata
12:51.57mitch0ckk: food for thought, in case you're bored: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
12:52.14ckknightsylvanaar: interesting
12:52.50sbuckknight: are there plans for a new branches/experimental download/packager flag? (also available in curse client) so addon authors / other beta tester could download cata-ready addons to test without killing all "alpha" users on live servers
12:53.35ckknightnot as of this moment, it's something I want to look into next week
12:53.40ckknightgoing on vacation in a few hours
12:55.39sbuoh, so Kaelten has to do this :p nah, thats fine, just would be real useful - sucks to tell your testers to download svn versions (also sucks to use "alpha for cataclysm :p)
12:56.17sbuthank you, and enjoy your vacation
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13:01.47ckknightsbu: I'm going to a conference, lots of running around and stress
13:01.48ckknightwoo
13:01.57ckknightand then I'll come back and do more work and get more stressed
13:02.38SunTsuckknight: Isn't attending a conference meant to look busy instead of doing real work?
13:02.52ckknightit's not a work conference
13:02.54ckknightwell
13:02.58ckknightI'll be giving two panels
13:03.02ckknightand passing out curse swag
13:10.36pompylol really.. "Students at UC Berkeley can take up Starcraft studies for college credits" ...
13:10.38pompyhttp://www.gossipgamers.com/starcraft-course-opened-for-college-earn-credits/
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13:20.09CrazyBennywicked... " Calculus and Differential Equations are highly recommended for full understanding of the course."
13:20.34CrazyBennythat might explain why I suck at SC :(
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13:43.07sylvanaarckk are the fubar repo's open?
13:45.24mitch0oh noes
13:46.16quiescenso.o
13:47.05kagarojnwhiteh:  the wowlua window is just a big black blob
13:47.12jnwhitehI know
13:47.15jnwhitehi think its a template issue
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13:47.24jnwhitehI'm not sure yet, at work and not having time to play with WoW
13:47.27jnwhitehno errors are being thrown
13:47.36jnwhitehcan you post your Logs/Framexml.log
13:47.37jnwhiteh?
13:47.40kagaroya i figured as much, just got up
13:47.55kagaronothing in the Framexml.log about it
13:49.12kagarolemme fire it back up and see if it dumps any errors i got bugsack installed now atleast
13:52.18ckknightsylvanaar: do you want access?
13:52.34sylvanaaryeah,i have fixes
13:52.34sylvanaarjust a few
13:52.51sylvanaaryou can make em if you want its like 4 lines
13:53.00ckknightk, sylvanaarl
13:53.04ckknightgo for it
13:56.00kagarojnwhiteh:  ya nothing in the Framxml.log about wowlua
13:56.07jnwhitehodd
13:56.10jnwhitehit'll take a bit of digging them
13:56.23Repo10fubar: 03sylvanaar * r35 FuBar.lua: cataclysm fixes
13:56.38kagaroonly possible one is $parent_Description not found int he framexml.log but not associated with wowlua
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13:57.44jnwhitehalright I'll try to look at it tonight then.
13:58.07kagaroall i can guess is some of the references texures may no longer exist or were renamed
13:59.50sylvanaar@project bankstack
13:59.51Reposylvanaar: No project found that matches 'bankstack'
13:59.54sylvanaarhrm
14:00.09sylvanaar@project BankStack
14:00.10Reposylvanaar: No project found that matches 'bankstack'
14:00.25kagarojnwhiteh: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/WoWScrnShot_090210_095049.jpeg
14:00.25Aikarlooks to be case insensitive
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14:00.30sylvanaarkemayo
14:00.31jnwhitehaye
14:00.32jnwhitehI saw it this morning
14:00.35jnwhitehjust not sure why its happening yet
14:00.37kagaroahh ok
14:00.46jnwhitehdidn't have a chance to look into the issue =)
14:00.48kagaroi havent spent anytime looking at it yet
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14:01.22kagaronoone has pulled an api list form teh client have they?
14:01.30jnwhitehkagaro: I'll do it when I go home
14:01.32jnwhitehor fuck it
14:01.34jnwhitehI could go home now
14:01.38jnwhitehand fix stuff.
14:01.41jnwhitehdoes this.
14:01.42Wobinhaha, I should try to see how badly mrplow breaks
14:01.52Wobinif I could download the patches ><
14:02.08kagarorofl
14:02.08kagaroim out of work for a few days inbetween contracts so ive got some time right now
14:02.31Wobinkagaro: perfect!
14:04.02Fiskerso Ackis ?
14:04.10Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r157 core.lua: cata fixes
14:04.15FiskerLooking forward to Kinect now that it doesn't support canadian?
14:04.50Ackisit works for me /shrug
14:05.04Ackisthe voice chat at least
14:05.08Ackiserr voice commands
14:05.22Ackismy living room is a bit too small for the motion sensor right now =/
14:06.14Ackisso you were saying?
14:06.48Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r45 ACP.toc:
14:06.49RepoAdd new toc tag: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000  (shows the highest interface version your addon is compatible with)
14:13.11kagaroso after updating libmapdata it works atleast
14:13.14kagaronow
14:13.34Aikarso did the addon system change greatly?
14:15.10kagarocrud, i still cant get the localized name of instance maps without being in the instance
14:15.56Ackisoh kagaro can I pick your brain?
14:16.02kagarosure
14:16.09AckisI was having issues with the different zone names
14:17.20AckisI was doing some of the argent tourney dailies and (spelling will be off sorry) Hrogarthar's Landing was the RealZoneName, however it said I entered Mistcaller's Cave... SubZoneText was "", MiniMapText was Mistcaller's Cave, and RealZoneName was still Hrogathar's Landing
14:18.16p3lim^UNIT_HEAL_PREDICTION + UnitGetIncomingHealth(), is that like HealComm?
14:18.40Ackisso I changed my code to use minimap text, and it broke the sunreaver's dailies =/
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14:19.49kagaroRealzonename shouldnt change in subzones
14:20.04Ackisaye but subzone should be something other than ""
14:20.07kagaroor you could use GetCurrentMapAreaID to ensure location of map map
14:20.20kagarosubzone isnt reliable
14:20.33kagarotill the event happens
14:20.34Ackis!api GetCurrentMapAreaID
14:20.34lua_botCould not find a match for 'GetCurrentMapAreaID '.
14:20.52kagaroits WORLD_MAP_UPDATE i think
14:20.52Ackisevent?
14:21.05Ackisit was displaying "" even after the yellow text said I had entered it
14:21.23kagaroim trying to remember which event happens once the data is avilable
14:21.46kagarohrmm Function: AppendToFile   has that always existed>
14:24.18Repo10gimplist: 03DrKazza 040.51b * r25 : Tagging as 0.51b
14:24.20Repoadded sharing functionality
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14:26.59Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r46 ACP.lua:
14:27.01Repoimplemented a UI for compatible addons. unknown or incompatible addons are pinkish color, and the info in the tooltip says Compatible: Yes, No, or Unknown
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14:29.50Repo10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar 06sylvanaar * r158 BankStack.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
14:31.31jnwhitehAPI Diff from 3.3.5 -> Cataclysm current: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140290
14:34.35VonhintenHOME`big pastey is big
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14:39.00Repo10right-wing: 03sylvanaar * r42 RightWing.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
14:45.28jnwhitehFixed diff: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140291
14:47.18Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r580 Prat-3.0.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 30200
14:47.46Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r47 ACP.lua:
14:47.49Repoimproved the UI for incompatible addons - so they are full red, and say incompatible
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14:55.24Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r86 Track-o-Matique.lua: * Stopped unnecessary tracking update when leaving combat.
14:55.43RepoNow only re-tracks if there's a need for switching tracking back.
14:56.06Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r48 ACP.lua: turn of compat checks on interface 30300 and lower
14:56.53Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 043.4.7 * r87 : Tagging as 3.4.7
14:59.55Aikarhttp://wowtal.com shows 41 point max for talents, is this in effect now or is it coming in cata?
15:00.55WobinAikar: the level cap on the page says 85
15:01.35Aikaryeah
15:01.42Aikarwow these talent changes suck O.o
15:01.59Aikarpretty big apple move right there locking you to 1 tree :/
15:02.50Aikarhopefully enough people will comlain and get that dropped
15:03.02arkanesyes that will absolutely happen
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15:04.00arkanesI'm certain that the months of development time and thought they've put into it will be entirely discarded because your 2 minutes of inspection has proven that they suck and the entire idea is a failure :\
15:05.02Aikarwhy shouldnt you be able to build your tree out how you want...
15:05.12arkanesyou can
15:05.17Aikari like improved sinister strike, but i like more things from assassination
15:05.47Aikarunder new system cant get improved sinister strike until i get to like 60 :/
15:05.49arkanesyou can't do whatever you want for the same reason that you don't h ave 90 talent points on live
15:06.03Aikari dont mind the reduction of total points
15:06.03arkanesthats okay
15:06.07Aikari meant locking you into a tree
15:06.09dafiAikar, it's pretty much as it's always been, only now it's much harder to have a totally gimped spec
15:06.11arkanesif you're assassination, using sinister strike is retarded
15:07.06arkaneswowtal.com doesn't have all the details on how speccing works now, you might want to read the more in depth changes summarized on mmo-champion
15:07.33Aikaryeah seems the tooltips are bugged too
15:07.45Aikarthe remorseless replacement shows same text for both levels
15:07.50dafiuse http://cata.wowhead.com/talent it works like the ingame one
15:07.59Repo10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * v2.01-3-g743f9a0 AckisRecipeList.toc: [+1 commit] ## X-Compatible-With: 30300
15:08.33Aikarguess ill be going down combat for cata if im not 80 by then
15:08.54arkanescombats best for leveling, as it always has been
15:09.05Aikarwow blade flurry is nerfed huh
15:09.23arkanesthe tooltips aren't identical by the way, it's a 50% chance to proc with only 1 point, 100% with 2
15:10.23arkanesits focussed as a cleave ability now, not as a DPS cooldown as well as a cleave
15:10.40arkanesnote that its only a 30 second cd though, it's really nice when you double pull leveling
15:15.58Aikarwell really hope im near cap when cata comes out. im 20 now. so i have a point in remorseless to help kill faster
15:20.28Aens|Superioritywhats an addon that can block wow error messages and possibly move the raid warnings?  Lightweight preferably
15:21.21Aens|Superiorityerrormonster is a no go as it seems to crash wow.
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15:22.29SlikerAaanyone know the EU guild? I've been lonely since the wipe.
15:24.10koaschtenits garbage collectors
15:24.20koaschtendrop daemona a hi (as soon as i relogged)
15:24.50genetik-Aens|Superiority: i use pErrorsomething
15:24.54genetik-i forget what it's called exactly
15:25.10Slikerkoaschten: ah, thanks
15:25.57genetik-Aens|Superiority: oh, it's just pError
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15:31.06koaschtenI should really install some unitframes on beta
15:31.11koaschteni die far too often to low hp
15:31.26kagarothey break koaschten, well stuff and ouf break
15:31.46kagarodue to templateheader change i think
15:31.49koaschtenand someone fix 60% corpse run mounts :(
15:32.22Megalon:D
15:32.53Megalonyea, i also just can't realise how low on hp i'm with standard unitframes :s
15:34.39Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r49 ACP.lua:
15:34.41Repofix out of range error and mark blizzard addons as compatible
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15:57.17koaschtenmekka off?
15:57.30sbudisconnect, but workíng again
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16:10.18koaschtensighs.
16:10.23koaschtenanother 60% corpse run
16:11.22sbuerr
16:11.26sbulive login servers down?
16:12.00sbulogin server is currently busy
16:14.14koaschtenworld server down
16:14.20sbunot for me
16:15.11koaschtentwilight highlands
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16:19.39vhaarrholy shit
16:19.56vhaarrI ordered an amplifier from Hong Kong, it shipped this morning, and arrived here FIVE hours later
16:19.58vhaarrin fucking Norway
16:20.01vhaarrjesus christ
16:20.17jnwhitehwow.
16:20.19jnwhitehseriously?
16:20.42vhaarryeah, when I got home today there was a note on my mail slot with a DHL ticket thingy
16:20.50vhaarrbefore I left this morning I got the "order shipped" mail
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16:20.58vhaarrthey had tried to ring the door at noon today
16:21.06vhaarrto deliver it
16:21.07vhaarrthat's amazing
16:22.32vhaarrthere must be a mistake, perhaps he forgot to send the "order shipped" mail until after he actually did it
16:22.40vhaarrdoesn't it take like at least 7 hours flight time
16:22.47dafiis that even possible? sure they didn't ship it from some place closer?
16:23.01vhaarrit was shipped from hong kong, but my guess is the mail wasn't automated
16:23.19vhaarrand the company manually sent the "order shipped" mail much later than they actually delivered the package for shipping
16:26.03sylvanaarvharr: you want to tag buggrabber with a "compatible with cata" toc tag: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18512
16:26.28vhaarrI haven't tested it yet but I will this weekend
16:26.40vhaarruntil that time, wowace repositories are OPEN TO EVERYONE for a reason
16:26.43vhaarrfeel free to commit 24/7
16:27.03sylvanaarits working for me, so is bugsack
16:29.33vhaarrthank you, yeah I had other reports to that as well
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16:32.38Repo10bug-grabber: 03sylvanaar * r154 !BugGrabber.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
16:34.10Repo10bugsack: 03sylvanaar * r229 BugSack.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
16:34.47sylvanaarthanks
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16:41.16Xtekhttp://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/02/rescue-efforts-underway-after-oil-rig-accident-in-gulf/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
16:41.18Xtekle sigh
16:41.36sylvanaaris the ettiqute clone if you cant ask the author, or just commit if their repo is open?
16:42.09koaschtenyou wanna know when leveling rogue feels wrong? when you think "i better blow adrenalin rush to get that single mob down"
16:42.25sylvanaarmine are all open - and i just want people to commit, but i dont want to step on any toes
16:42.48arkanesthe damage output from mobs in deepholm is pretty brutal
16:42.50vhaarrsylvanaar: if the repo is open then I regard that as an open invitation
16:42.59arkanesI haven't looked at the new 83+ zones yet
16:43.34Repo10sell-junk: 03sylvanaar * r117 SellJunk.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
16:43.39Axodiousi haven't looked past my class (paladin) yet >_<
16:43.40arkanessylvanaar: personally, I keep a blessed repo that only I have commit access to, because I don't like to release stuff with my name on it that I haven't audited
16:43.48sylvanaarvhaarr:  me too - im going with that
16:43.54sylvanaararkanes: is it open?
16:43.56PneumatusX-Compatible-With a new metadata field? :o
16:44.02arkanessylvanaar: but I would have no problem with being forked and ignored if I didn't respond to bug reports and so on
16:44.12Antiarckoaschten: Ugh, yeah, I don't like what they've done with AR.
16:44.13arkanessylvanaar: well thats for my open source stuff in general
16:44.27arkanesI actualyl don't publish a repo for any of my addons cause I'm too lazy to work in public
16:44.28vhaarrPneumatus: you can make any field you want, X-Compatible-With is just a new community standard field
16:44.31koaschteni dont like what they did with lvl 84-85 mobs Antiarc
16:44.33Pneumatusoh right, its for ACP etc
16:44.37koaschtenthey hit for 6-9k
16:44.39AntiarcThey're bad, huh?
16:44.40koaschtenand have 90k hp
16:44.40Antiarc...ow
16:44.43sylvanaaryeah, im trying to get it to be
16:44.54koaschtenwithout recuperate i'd considering rerolling my druid oder dk
16:44.57vhaarrAntiarc: I have ICC25HC full tanking gear, and one mob drops me to 50% hp
16:45.00AntiarcAnd I thought Storm Peaks mobs were bad
16:45.05vhaarrI have 78k HP
16:45.10AntiarcHoly sheez.
16:45.11arkaneskoaschten: hit that dismantle button
16:45.11koaschteni am twilight highlands
16:45.17Axodiousthink i'm gonna level as prot and just use the healing seal >_>
16:45.21Axodiousleast i won't die lol
16:45.22koaschtenhas the same cooldown as adrenalin rush arkanes ;)
16:45.24arkanesdid they tune spell damage back down?
16:45.25AntiarcI'm in full 277 and now I'm afraid to try
16:45.33koaschtenno not really, but feels like
16:45.33Pneumatusi did deepholm post-buff on my green worgen and had no problems :o
16:45.41arkanesdeephome mobs were casting spells for like 15k, it was brutal
16:46.07koaschtenAntiarc -> http://elitistarmory.com/EU/Auchindoun/Daemona
16:46.08Pneumatusalso
16:46.24koaschtendeepholm is easy
16:46.24Pneumatuswhy the fuck is the launcher streaming upstream even when ive completed my download+patch
16:46.27Pneumatusthat can fuck right off
16:46.34koaschtenuldum is ok unless you pull more than 2 mobs
16:46.36Axodiousi just disabled p2p
16:46.41koaschtentwilight highlands just hurts
16:46.41Axodiouswas downloading at max even with
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16:47.05Pneumatusi don't mind P2P while im updating, but i don't expect my upstream to be saturated seeding when i have everything
16:47.08Pneumatusthat's just silly
16:47.10koaschtenantiarc feel free to laugh at the hurt i take -> http://livestre.am/bIiE
16:47.17Antiarckoaschten: Huh, any reason you took the 4pc over full ArP?
16:47.44Antiarchttp://elitistarmory.com/US/Cenarion%20Circle/Adrine <-- \o/
16:47.48koaschtenthe off pieces arnt dropping got me ;)
16:47.56AntiarcHeh, that'll do it.
16:48.03Pneumatusserver full, whut :o
16:48.17arkanesno RS trinket?
16:48.22AntiarcNo :(
16:48.27AntiarcIt's dropped once ever for us
16:48.34AntiarcWe get the tank trinket every week
16:48.40arkaneshah we've never seen the tank one
16:48.45koaschtenwhat bugs me most, that my current guild is in no way capable to drop LK and Halion HM
16:48.51koaschtenbut does fine anywhere else :(
16:48.52arkanesabout 50/50 caster dps & the arp one
16:48.52Pneumatuswe mostly get the melee trinket, and no one needs it anymore afaik
16:49.00arkaneskoaschten: we're in the same boat pretty much
16:49.24AntiarcDitto, koaschten
16:49.32koaschtenomg, a mob with tit eyes?
16:49.44arkanesoh?
16:49.44koaschtenuploads screenshot.
16:49.52arkanes*joins stream
16:50.01Axodiousi dropped from a top 100 25 man guild half way through hm icc, made a 10 man guild and it's fallen apart >_>
16:50.20arkanesI'm sick of raiding
16:50.27arkanesand even more sick of 25 man raiding
16:50.37Axodiouswe just host a 25m hm pug now
16:50.41Axodiousdo most hms
16:50.50arkaneslooking forward very much to cata, dropping to 10s and reconnecting with my old core group of friends
16:50.54Axodiousone night a week thing
16:50.58Axodiousbrb
16:51.03koaschteni probably can restart the cutscene too if you want arkanes
16:51.05Pneumatuswe're lucky to get more than about 21/22 on to raid at the moment :<
16:51.17arkaneswow theres a lot of ads on this livestream thing
16:51.30koaschtenyou dont see them in fullscreen ;)
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16:51.40koaschtenand be happy i ddnt link the original xfire stream ;)
16:52.01arkaneswe're starting to fall into that downward spiral where people are burnt out with the lack of progression, so they stop showing up, so we can't progress, so we recruit new people, but they have no gear
16:52.04koaschtenhere we go again, cutscone inc
16:52.21arkaneswhere the hell is the fullscreen button
16:52.37koaschtenhover the video, right icon ;)
16:52.45arkaneshaha
16:52.48arkanesthats cho-gall
16:53.53arkaneswhat're your thoughts on the in-game cutscene stuff?
16:53.56arkanesI'm not sure I love it
16:54.12koaschtenits better than no cutscenes
16:54.22koaschtenbut when it comes to LK Kill cutscene level
16:54.27arkanesI like the cinematic nature of it, but i hate not being able to move the camera
16:54.32koaschten.... i just want a "skip after seen once" button
16:54.58arkanesyeah the LK cinematic should only play the first time you get the kill
16:55.06arkanesyou can click it in dal if you want to see it again
16:55.09Axodiousi said this last time i killed lk
16:55.21Axodiousafter first kill they hsould just drop hp by 10% and instant kill him
16:55.22Axodious~_~
16:55.55arkanesI don't mind the rp
16:55.58arkanesgives me a chance to pee
16:56.32Axodiousthe RP on illidan was a good amount of RP
16:56.38Axodiousany more is meh to me
16:57.13koaschtenuuuh cant you LFG for group quests anymore?
16:57.15koaschtenawesome, disc
16:57.19arkanesit would be kinda funny if instead of doing the whole chat, if as sono as fury of the frostmourne went off fordring just broke the block and killed arthas
16:57.36Axodiouslol yea
16:57.54Axodiousor as he's casting it
16:58.30arkanesI've seen a video of a rogue managing to vanish past it
16:58.39arkanesand dpsing him through the whole 8 minutes or whatever
16:58.54koaschtenthey fixed that, month ago :(
16:58.59Axodiousman last lk kill i did was pretty scary, ppl weren't paying attention and he summoned a val'kyr which grabbed our healer as he put the edge up
16:59.22Axodiousso lucky that they don't drag you any further
17:00.30Pneumatuslol, Tip: Remember: Click on the Lightwell!
17:01.20Axodiousi can't believe how useless that things been since it's release and NOW they fix it
17:02.09koaschtenAntiarc wanna see some real getting hurt? i found a lvl 85 quest mob, that just crit me for 13k :(
17:02.35Axodiousare you replacing your gear with quest greens? they have like so much more stam
17:02.46koaschtenno i havent so far
17:02.56koaschteni have 55k hp anyway
17:03.06Axodiousit always sucks leveling as a tank in expacs cause they inflate stam so much
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17:04.34sbukoaschten: you should, get more hit :P
17:04.35koaschtenwell and replacing gear with quest greens/blues, you lack gems, enchants... all you gain is stam
17:04.51sbu20% miss sucks
17:06.42koaschtenoh really, this stupid warrior with shadowmourne and cryptmaker just tears through that tentacles :(
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17:08.41Axodiousso what class koaschten
17:08.43Axodiouswar?
17:09.39koaschtenme? rogue
17:09.54Axodiousfeel sorry for you :( lol
17:09.56koaschteni really need to re-gem
17:10.03koaschtenall that crit does nothing for me
17:10.21Axodioushave you tried using 2x heirloom trinkets? probably will reduce downtime
17:10.30Axodious4% max hp per kill
17:10.32koaschteni have no downtime
17:10.36Axodiousah
17:10.39koaschteni just last through the mobs or i dont
17:10.48koaschtenand if its 200k hp and hits for 8-14k
17:10.50koaschteni dont last
17:11.02koaschteneven with recuperate ticking every 3 for 3k and evasion for the first part
17:12.11arkanesreminds me of leveling in vanilla honestly
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17:14.20Axodiouszzz error 132
17:16.42Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r581 services/patterns.lua:
17:16.44Repochop out the broken portion until i can figure out the cause
17:17.59NivAxodious: did you fix chatter for beta yet? :) (altnames)
17:18.18Niver
17:18.19Axodious? i don't make chatter
17:18.20NivAntiarc even
17:18.21Axodiouslol
17:18.23Nivtab fail
17:18.26Axodiousah
17:20.20Nivarkanes: leveling in vanilla was hard? :P
17:20.47arkanesNiv: as a rogue it was pretty similar to the whole "attack and hope the mob dies before you do" thing
17:21.04arkanesI spent a lot of time eating food in vanilla
17:21.10Axodioushow do you get to dal now
17:21.17koaschtenoh man this is a joke, those tentacles dont have a ranged attack ...
17:21.29arkaneskoaschten: they don't evade if you range them?
17:21.34koaschtenthat warlock is just casting away doing the quest and i cant even think about doing it solo
17:21.35koaschten....
17:21.38koaschtennope no evade
17:22.24koaschten"Torn ground" is the quest
17:22.42Nivarkanes: sure, I had a lot of downtime as a warrior as well
17:22.46Nivbut I never felt like I was going to die
17:23.39Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r582 services/patterns.lua:
17:23.41Repofixed problem....wasnt checking the pattern match tables to see if they were empty
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17:26.50koaschtenjust wrote a quest feedback and i feel bad for it :( http://pastey.net/140299
17:31.02Sentriwhy you feel bad :P
17:31.15Megaloni wonder if they played through twilight highlands by themselves at least once :>
17:31.19Sentrithat's why you have to do it so it won't suck on live ^^
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17:36.25koaschtenyeah but i hate writing that devastating feedback
17:39.55Axodiouslol
17:39.58Axodiousbeta char copy is busted
17:40.24Axodioussomeone forgot to end a sql cmd
17:41.26quiescens;
17:43.15Aikarhmm, Remote AH doesnt work on chrome
17:44.32Aikaropened it in chrome since chromes on my left monitor facing away from boss and firefox is on right monitor where boss can see easy lol >_>
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17:47.15augustlkoaschten: hi there, I'm being told you have <Garbage Collectors> guild invite skillz
17:47.25koaschten:=)
17:53.03Megalonhe also has some quite good dieing in twilight highlands skillz!
17:53.41ccKeplogin servers my ass, should drastically speed that up..........
17:53.57augustlodd, no breadcrumb quests out of deathknell, for a lvl5 UD
17:55.16ccKepshould atleast learn to make SOME estimates in their login messages
17:55.32ccKepor even like "not going to work for atleast 2 more hours" or something like that would be nice
17:56.03augustlsysadmins should get twitter accounts :)
17:57.30ccKepaye, login servers working :P
17:57.35Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r50 ACP.xml:
17:57.37Repomove the location of the addons button from above the logout button to above the macros button. I pressed logout way too many times on accident
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18:05.01Gnarfozso
18:05.17koaschtenok wtf
18:05.24Gnarfozdoing cataclysm development in trunk is how it's going to be?
18:05.25koaschteni failed a quest in twilight highlands
18:05.26koaschtendie
18:05.38koaschtenget portet and rezzed at the mailstrom
18:05.49Gnarfozmailstrom ftw? plenty of mail
18:05.53koaschtenand now am supposed to fight deathwing with thrall?
18:07.47kagarocan someone on a non english client get me thier Map.dbc from cata
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18:10.57Nivmaybe I'll try prot for 83-85 if it's that rough
18:11.04Nivit was too painful for 80-83 before
18:15.26Megalonthey also fucked up the whole vehicle system
18:15.58Megalonthe spells don't work on some of them
18:20.06kagarowho was looking for the alert url?
18:20.31kagaroarkanes:  you were ight?
18:21.01arkanesnot me
18:21.13kagaroorionshock:  you wanted some gluexml data right?
18:21.52kagaroSERVER_ALERT_BETA_URL = "http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/alert";
18:23.24NivI need to replace SBF with something
18:23.25Nivhrmm
18:23.32Niv(in beta)
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18:24.39Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r583 services/patterns.lua:
18:24.41Repofixed problem....wasnt checking the pattern match tables to see if they were empty (in another place)
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18:28.02Gnarfozsylvanaar: could you make sure that, if you do dev work in trunk, that it works on both live and beta? (regarding: fubar)
18:28.15sylvanaarwhy, did i break live?
18:28.23orionshockthanks kagaro
18:28.39kagaroorionshock:  ive got all the gluexml extracted so if you need something else just lemme know
18:29.01sylvanaarGnarfoz: oh i see sorry
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18:29.16Gnarfozsylvanaar: yeah, somewhat ^^
18:29.26sylvanaarits in libfubarplugin
18:29.46orionshockGnarfoz, u know fubar is dead right? it's been that way for about a year or more
18:29.49Gnarfozit is
18:29.55Gnarfozorionshock: who cares
18:30.56koaschten_sometimes i really dont understand whats going on behind the scenes
18:31.03koaschten_i had 100ms to the beta all day
18:31.22koaschten_now i log onto live and get 5 times disconnected before i get out of dalaran and then have 14k ms
18:31.25koaschten_-.-
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18:38.29Gnarfozkoaschten_: servers in usa, servers in europe?
18:38.48koaschten_yeah but nonetheless it feels so random at times
18:41.03Gnarfozthe internets, random? never!
18:43.21Fiskerhey koaschten_
18:43.24Fiskerbut not hey Gnarfoz
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18:47.28pompynice that quest where u take the boat to vashj'ir is bugged now... you get on the boat and get to vashj'ir but it just chills there and ports to azshara instead of like flip over and stuff like its supposed to
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18:50.15Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r117 / (4 files in 2 directories): Merged: Fixed a bug introduced in r110 (2010-08-30) where the price an item should sell for was not being calculated.
18:50.18RepoFixed a bug introduced in r110 (2010-08-30) where the price an item should sell for was not being calculated.
18:50.19RepoUpdated the ArkInventory rule and tooltip to work in QA is compatible instead of if its enabled in ItemAuditor.
18:52.13kagarointeresting GetRealZoneText now takes a parameter
18:52.50kagarolooks like you can pass in value to get ocalized names
18:54.07kagaroassuming you have the internal map id, you can ask it now for the locaized name of the map
18:54.44kagaronice
18:58.44sylvanaarGnarfoz: youre right - ill revert my change for now - and test more later
18:59.32Gnarfozsylvanaar: okay, ty
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19:03.34Repo10fubar: 03sylvanaar * r36 FuBar.lua: revert last commit, it broke live - will retry later
19:03.43Gnarfozkagaro: byebye babblezone?
19:03.55kagaromaybe, i can grab the realzone text, not subzones
19:04.01kagarobut that maybe enough
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19:04.23kagarocould lookup name by area id or mapfile name
19:16.31Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r111 portals.lua: possible fix for mage spell selection
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19:30.12orionshock^.^ more localization magic
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19:41.05kagaromagic orionshock?
19:42.40Fiskerfuck me kagaro
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19:45.57kagaroahh beauty :) erb generated lib built form dbc extracts
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19:54.04kagarosweet, works
19:54.35kagaroyou can now do: LibStub("LibMapData-1.0"):MapLocalize("Ulduar77") and get 'Halls of Stone' as a result
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19:55.57kagarogranted a few come back a little weird, like Shattered Halls comes back as 'Hellfire Citidel: The Shatted Halls')
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20:02.08harl|WoWi wish i could just copy the CurseClient to a single subdirectory in my custom programs directory (along its settings and whatnot).
20:02.30nevcairielyou mean like, portable
20:02.34harl|WoWis there a way to restrain it from installing itself into that obscure "Apps" dir? or at least from adding those 37 subdirectories on its way down there?
20:02.50harl|WoWyes, if you wish to define it that way, like portable.
20:02.57Nivnevcairiel: have you looked at the paging errors for bt4 on beta yet? :)
20:03.13nevcairielhaha, you use addons on beta :P
20:03.25Niv:)
20:04.02NivI've clearly been playing without them, but you know I need your crack
20:04.02nevcairieli wont have time until next week, and i always laugh when people get all funny because its broken on beta :p
20:04.22Nivhaha, I was just wondering if you were looking at it
20:04.24NivI mean
20:04.29NivFIX IT NOWZ
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20:18.31Repo10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro 07cataclysm * r34 library.lua: Updated LibMapData-1.0, for cata changes.
20:28.15Adirelleactually I'm not in an hurry to test my addon with the beta
20:28.24Adirelleif they are broken, I'll have to fix them
20:28.35Adirelleand I want to get to 85 before that :p
20:28.55orionshockis the beta down?
20:29.15hasteyes
20:29.23kagarokeeps restarting
20:29.23Pneumatusno
20:32.05orionshockim getting more login errors
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20:35.34Repo10fubar: 03sylvanaar * r37 FuBar.lua: fix retested on live and beta
20:36.33sylvanaari want to get mine fixed because i wont have time off again for a while
20:37.19NivI was suprised as many things worked as well as they did
20:37.35Nivwhat's this daily mallet bug people are talking about?
20:42.32Ali1331:o /echo doesnt exist in ace3?
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20:48.39Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r584 Prat-3.0.toc: ## X-Compatible-With: 40000
20:48.55rljohnwhen using AceOptions, get =, set =, how do you declare the function there? I asked a week or so ago but forgot the answer
20:49.24Ali1331get = function(key) return db[key] end
20:49.50Ali1331set = function(key, value) db[key] = value end
20:49.58rljohnand no function name/
20:50.26Ali1331nope
20:50.45Ali1331same as if you did local get = function(key) bla end
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20:51.02rljohncomma after?
20:51.13Ali1331as its in a table yes
20:52.14rljohnty
20:53.35Ali1331btw the key parameter is actually a table
20:54.06Ali1331you can read about what it holds @ http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/#w-callback-arguments
20:56.05Repo10fubar: 03sylvanaar * r38 FuBar.lua:
20:56.07Reporemove a couple lingering "this"'s to fix cata - tested on live also
20:56.51Yssarilsylvanaar: why are you fixing fubar?
20:57.01sylvanaarbecause I use it
20:57.20sylvanaarshould I not?
20:57.22Yssarilgood enough :)
20:58.11Yssarilwhile your at it strip out fubarplugin and add LDB support instead :P
20:58.24sylvanaarhehe
20:58.34sylvanaari use broker2fubar
20:58.52Yssarilstill might as well make it native imo
20:59.46sylvanaarwell, next on my plate is wholib, i know there was a small change in the who api - i dont think wholib was affected, but i have to check it
21:00.32sylvanaarhates working on wholib
21:01.56koaschten_hates twilight highlands :/
21:05.59kagaroi still need to update chatter for 1 of the modules to work properly
21:06.06Repo10gaintracker (experimental): 03Bethink * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): Release 1.0.2
21:06.38Repo10gaintracker (experimental): 03Bethink 041.0.2 * r4 : Tagging as 1.0.2
21:14.15arkanesthe quest tracker seems to think that leutenant murp in wintergrasp is dead center in the middle of vash'jir
21:15.00Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r585 / (3 files in 3 directories): ## X-Compatible-With: 40000 for the sub-addons
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21:32.48Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r586 addon/addon.lua: set the BN_CHAT flag to enable that functionality
21:33.41orionshockgrr still getting 114 login error
21:33.48orionshock>.> was working JUST FINE yesterday
21:34.48sylvanaargrr im going to call loadaddon myself on the feeback ui
21:38.08Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r112 / (2 files in 1 directory): esMX locale sucks, mmkay?
21:39.03orionshockhead starts to hurt from pounding it on desk
21:39.12orionshockwants to kill who ever wrote the new guild UI
21:41.19orionshock.. just wow...
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21:41.52orionshocki could have written it better.. and im not that good with UI stuff
21:44.46Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r587 modules/ChatTabs.lua: set .oldAlpha explicitly to prevent an error in FCF
21:46.11sylvanaari keep crashing in flight form in orgimar
21:46.53sylvanaarcrap
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21:56.26koaschten_oh come on, another oil platform?
21:56.27orionshockam i the only one having issues with the beat here?
21:56.36orionshock<PROTECTED>
21:56.58koaschten_if your issue his, mobs hit too hard, then we have the same issue orionshock :)
21:57.52Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r113 portals.lua: one more try
21:58.03orionshockkoaschten_, no, i'm getting login error 114
21:58.15orionshock& i have no firewall
21:58.36koaschten_hmm not familiar with 114
22:00.24Repo10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r114 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua:
22:00.26Repoupdated to support sex (male/female). the blizzard value is returned, no attempt is made to decode it
22:01.04Repo10fubar_wholibfu: 03sylvanaar * r51 FuBar_WhoLibFu.lua:
22:01.06Repoadd player sex to the display. decoding the blizzard integer sex value
22:01.35sylvanaari think blizz got it backwards
22:01.46sylvanaar1 should be male, and 0 should be female
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22:08.00Connor1How is Howling Fjord at 69?
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22:24.01Repo10dewdroplib: 03sylvanaar * r322 Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: cata fixes, tested on live
22:26.07cralorkagaro: ping
22:26.38Yssarilsylvanaar: ewwwwww not dewdrop
22:26.53sylvanaari know
22:27.07sylvanaarbut fubar_wholibfu was using it
22:27.13sylvanaarand it was easy to fix
22:27.22cralorwas there any success obtaining GlueXML?
22:27.27sylvanaari ahve it
22:27.40sylvanaarwhat do you need from it
22:27.47cralorlauncher URL, please ;D
22:29.13ccKepI've got a premade lock copied over @ cralor, if you still need any spellids and such... (dunno if it was you yesterday, I'm terribad at remembering names)
22:29.58cralorNot SpellIDs, no
22:30.14cralorI'm curious to know the URL for the Launcher code
22:30.26cralorlike launcher.worldofwarcraft.com for current
22:33.26sylvanaarthat what you wanted?
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22:36.49RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gaintracker/. Gain Tracker. Bethink (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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22:38.22cralorsylvanaar: I have replied to you
22:40.27ccKephttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/2.0/CT/patch-notes.xml
22:40.29ccKep*shrug*
22:41.41ccKepthat's what you wanted?
22:42.23Pneumatusanyone know what GetSpellName has been replaced with?
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22:43.54ccKepcralor: ping :D
22:44.11cralorI see
22:44.15cralorit's http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/2.0/CT/index.xml
22:44.19cralorThanks, ccKep!!
22:44.20ccKep(going to watch californication if thats what you were looking for... otherweise I'll continue searching)
22:45.04ccKepdidn't find anything in gluexml... although I didn't really look, patch-notes.xml is hardcoded into the launcher.exe
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22:45.56ccKepguess I looked in the wrong mpq, didn't mess with them for years :D
22:46.12starlonare frames ever destroyed?
22:47.37ccKepnot afaik (need to reloadui to destroy them)
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22:51.41Yssarilstarlon: no
22:54.08starlonthanks
22:58.52kagarocralor:  i posted it a bit ago, scrollback
22:59.03kagarothe launcher url is same as live
22:59.12kagarobut alerts are beta.worldofwarcraft.com
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23:25.25orionshockI hate ui design...
23:29.30cralorthanks, kagarto
23:29.39cralors/kagarto/kagaro
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23:32.29ccKepwondering if blizzard allows druids to customize their forms separately from their caster-form like they're doing with worgen
23:32.39ccKepalthough I doubt it... worgen druid customization would be a mess :P
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23:32.53purlgives pompy an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending pompy to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple
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23:46.50orionshockanyone on beta atm?
23:48.14sylvanaarxmas lights
23:49.42ccKepsue collini always gets the weeny... god I'm lovin that series
23:53.02koaschten_http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/165731-1/Dog_jumps_stream.gif
23:53.32rljohnAnyone have a moment to help me with the "values" entry of a "multiline" AceConfig item type
23:53.32koaschten_orionshock yes
23:53.59Yssarilrljohn: what do you mean by values it should only return one
23:54.05rljohnerrr sorry
23:54.09rljohnnot a multi-select, a Select
23:54.22rljohnthe Documentaiton says
23:54.23rljohnvalues (table|function) - [key]=value pair table to choose from, key is the value passed to "set", value is the string displayed
23:54.36orionshockkoaschten_, can you try logging in with the uid "Orionshock@gmail.com" ?
23:54.59orionshocktrying to test if there is a problem on my end or blizzard's
23:54.59rljohnwould it be, values = { optionA, optionB, optionC },
23:55.02koaschten_dontcha think thats stuff gor a query? ;)
23:55.30Yssarilrljohn: yea and your keys would be 1,2,3 in that case
23:56.07rljohnokay, so what would the Set method look like
23:56.35orionshock<PROTECTED>
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23:57.15Yssariland get would be get = function(info) return key end
23:57.16orionshockset = function(info, key)  print( "Selected Option",  info.option.value[key] ) end
23:57.46rljohni follow that except for info.option.value
23:58.17orionshockrljohn, the info table acts like "self" in ace options.  the info table has lots of stuff on it to make life easier
23:58.34rljohnokay
23:58.42rljohnlet me try it and see what happens
23:58.55orionshockin that case i just printed out what ace options would show the user in the dropdown

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