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00:20.02orionshockdurcyn, now it works with auto track on mouse over.. at least on trash mobs in VH
00:20.03orionshock>.>
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00:50.57sylvanaarhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560769980&sid=2000
00:51.01sylvanaari wet my pants
00:51.08sylvanaaryay
00:53.19ccKepfinally ^.^
00:58.41Zyngood stuff
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00:58.55Zyncan't wait to figure out all the errors :3
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01:12.12Stanzillahaste: happy bday!
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01:35.47orionshocksylvanaar, finally.. now i can rip apart GuildCraft and their new guild interface
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01:48.29orionshockhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560840114
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02:10.27Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r109 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added an option to enable the COD warning under /ia options > Messages > COD Warning. This is on by default.
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02:56.58ShefkiGreat, spammers have started spamming comments on tickets.
02:58.28Repo10dungeon-ach-tracker: 03OrionShock 07master * b13fb4a / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +11 commits] (7 truncated)
02:58.30Repob13fb4a: typo fix
02:58.31Repo28725ad: remove file
02:58.31orionshockdurcyn, ^^
02:58.32Repo11eb47a: finish fleshing out file
02:58.33Repo422096a: rename zone file
03:04.15TorhalShefki: You're fucking kidding me.
03:04.19TorhalUngh.
03:04.29ShefkiTorhal: Nope I banned the guy and deleted all his comments already.
03:04.41ShefkiAt least wowace's moderation system doesn't blow chunks.
03:04.57TorhalThat's because it was done by Kaelten and ckknight.
03:05.26ckknight*thumbs up*
03:05.31TorhalThere's still shit I'd like to have addressed, but overall I'm quite pleased with the system they put in place.
03:05.40ckknightyea, same here
03:06.33TorhalAlso, a question: Is it insane for me to have not watched Lost until two months after it has ended, and then watch 17 episodes in two days?
03:06.53ShefkiNo, I've never watched it.
03:08.56TorhalShefki: Okay, then: What about the 17 episodes in two days part? :)
03:09.07ShefkiDoesn't seem like an issue to me.
03:09.27ShefkiTip to spammers: Don't spam my tickets, I get email on my phone, I read the comments.  Your ass will be banned quickly.
03:15.30ShefkiWTF at that hostname.
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04:32.56rljohnanyone mind giving me a hand with AceOptions table? Not sure how to create the get/set functions directly in the options
04:48.37Yssarilrljohn: set = function(info, val) blah end
04:48.48Yssarilrljohn: get = function(info) return blah end
04:48.54rljohnty
04:49.30Yssarilrljohn: set = function(info, val) blah = val end  <--- more like that for set :)
04:49.56quiescensblah = blah + 1
04:50.00rljohn:)
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05:04.53WobinTorhal: it's insane for you to have started watching
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05:31.22Connor1I'm 65
05:31.24Connor1Fasted way to 68?
05:31.27Connor1Fastest*
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06:31.09hasteStanzilla: ty :3
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06:41.55Fiskerslaps haste around a bit with a large trout
06:42.00Fiskeri want my hat haste :(
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06:44.24Fiskersends haste a letter containing flour
06:51.45orionshockmeta tables, one _ or 2 _ ?
06:56.52BrunersFisker: why do you need a hat?
06:59.50Connor1http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie%20Peak&n=Default
06:59.51Connor10th in 3v3
07:06.22Fiskeri'm entitled to one Bruners
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07:07.03the-golem~seen Ali1331
07:07.08purlali1331 <~ali.neowi@213.83.80.129> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18h 21m 53s ago, saying: '"As mentioned yesterday, we finally started moving the servers to Curse's infrastructure this week"'.
07:07.18the-golemblargh
07:10.51Fiskerok Bruners
07:11.04Fiskerthis jerkwad won't get it through his skull that my e-mail isn't his
07:11.17Fiskerwould comitting bankfraud in his name be an appropiate way to tell him that?
07:15.26Repo10dungeon-ach-tracker: 03OrionShock 07master * 84342be / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix loading problems... forgot for a moment how tables worked..
07:15.38BrunersFisker: not sure who you are talking about :P
07:15.52BrunersFisker: sounds like someone is using your email
07:15.58Fiskerhe is
07:16.01Fiskerand it's annoying
07:16.08Fiskerbut for example he gave his bank this e-mail
07:16.29Fiskerso i mean i could technically just ask his bank for a loan and send all the money to me
07:16.48Brunershehehe
07:17.03BrunersFisker: have you give him the login details ?
07:17.16FiskerNo
07:17.21Fiskerhe's using my e-mail address
07:17.24Fiskerhe has no access to it
07:17.27Brunershaha
07:17.40Brunersis he above 50 years old ?
07:17.49Brunerssince he doesn't have an email
07:18.50Fiskerhe probably does
07:19.04hasteFisker: it's my hat!
07:19.15Fiskermy hat
07:22.45Brunershaste: are you good with haskell ?
07:22.53hasteno :P
07:22.59hasteI haven't touched it since I dropped xmonad
07:22.59Brunersbaaaaw
07:23.13hasteand I hope GHC never enters my computer again :3
07:23.35Fiskeri enter you haste
07:23.50Fiskeri also got a muradin's favor yesterday from a gamemaster
07:24.06Brunersjust wondering if it's possible to do that in one line instead of two http://pastebin.com/t0b9i5DA
07:24.33hasteI honestly have no idea :D
07:26.41Brunersi have done so much with this config that i don't want to switch to a different WM :P
07:30.03hasteI switched from a heavily modified xmonad to barely modified wmii :P
07:30.13hastebut I might just be lazy now
07:30.35Brunersi think you are :P
07:31.38Brunersno DDR4 before 2015 :(
07:31.52Brunersguess i will just have to get DDR3 at some point then
07:39.04Fiskersandy bridge
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07:43.47Fiskerbur
07:43.49Fiskerkek
07:46.31Fiskeryou used to be cool Bruners
07:46.41Brunersi'm not cool anymore? :(
07:47.07Fiskeri don't think so
07:47.36Brunersjust haven't been active in here since i stopped playing wow
07:48.02Brunersi'm still pretty much as cool as it gets
07:48.12Brunersjust ask haste
07:48.39Fiskerhttp://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-untitled-telltale/703721 <-is this dota?
07:49.46Brunerswat
07:50.04Brunerslooks like some TF2 crap
07:51.43FiskerIt's the Heavy from TF, Tycho from the Penny Arcade game, sam/max from Sam & Max and strongbad
07:51.49Fiskertf2 of course
07:52.40FiskerAnd the only way i could think of them being together is some kind of HEROBASED ALLSTARS GAME
07:52.43Fiskergeddit?
07:59.50Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.1-2-gf1715e5 Core.lua: [+1 commit] fix for out of dungeon difficulty selection
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08:28.12sbuyay
08:28.14sbu"With the release of the next beta patch, we plan to re-enable the ability for players to use third-party addon"
08:28.44sbuso 85 + addons next patch :p
08:29.40orionshocksbu some addons might not need that much of a change :)
08:31.24quiescenssuch an optimist
08:31.49quiescenspats orionshock
08:31.51nevcairielyay addons
08:31.56nevcairieli don't expect 85 tbh
08:32.18sbui do... i they really want to hit "2010 release"
08:32.19nevcairielmaybe one zone and 84
08:32.32sbuits 2 zones left, right?
08:32.35nevcairielyes
08:32.37sbuuldum and twilight highlands
08:32.42nevcairielindeed
08:32.51quiescensi don't know anything
08:32.52quiescens:o
08:32.55quiescenso.o
08:33.01nevcairielnot sure which of those is more finished
08:33.14quiescensI think the last thingy I finished was um
08:33.15Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r62 GDKPd.lua: Fixed bug with exporting and manual adjustments.
08:33.17RepoFixed a few alignments of notes in history window.
08:33.18RepoFixed history frame not updating right away when a new pot is saved.
08:33.24quiescensmalygos?
08:33.30nevcairielhaha uldum has a new harrison jones quest
08:33.33sbunevcairiel: both have some mobs in
08:33.39Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-11e * r63 : tagging
08:33.54quiescensdid they get rid of the sign that said blizzard contruction co.
08:33.57quiescensor was that ages ago
08:34.01sbuTH drakes and some "83 elite", uldum those burrowed whatever it is things
08:35.22nevcairielthey have super timing with the addons again
08:35.30nevcairielnow the week that i'm moving into a new place
08:37.28the-golem:-/
08:37.55the-golemdo any intel chips besides the X58 support SATA 6Gb/s natively?
08:38.02Fiskeri hate you Bruners
08:38.07nevcairielno intel chipset does that, not even X58
08:38.17BrunersFisker: now what
08:38.20nevcairielthey all use the controller by NEC, i guess
08:38.37BrunersFisker: i'm coding haskell! needs my full attention to not wander off to something else
08:39.07Fiskerbaw Bruners
08:39.10Fiskeri was made aware of something
08:39.26Fiskerin the trailer the heavy is holding some cards
08:39.36Fiskerso it's probably just some stupid update to their poker game
08:39.41Fiskeror new poker game
08:39.45Fiskerso i bawwd
08:39.57Brunersa poker game with TF2 avatars?
08:40.05Fiskerapparently
08:40.16the-golemnevcairiel: thanks. I coulda sworn I read somewhere that the x58 did support it, but I musta been mistaken, or the article was hooey ^^
08:41.01nevcairieli was wrogn though, NEC was the USB3.0 controller, no idea who makes the sata controller everyone uses
08:41.53the-golemMarvell 1928 perhaps
08:42.29nevcairielintel does not plan to release a i7 chipset with sata6gb/s or usb3, the 6 series chipset will already be sandy bridge
08:44.09Fiskerwhat article?
08:45.10the-golemThe article I read "somewhere" which I no longer remember. :-(
08:45.49Fiskeri came
08:46.59the-golemtissue?
08:47.49the-golemAMD has a native sata6 chip though, correct?
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08:51.10the-golemthe 890FX, it seems
08:51.23the-golemish
08:51.58quiescensish
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08:52.30the-golemwhen did nVidia stop making motherboards, btw?
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08:57.25Fiskerhey Megalon
08:57.36Fiskerwhen intel fucked them in the ass the-golem
08:58.19nevcairieltheir last generation of chips kinda sucked anyway
08:59.17Megalonwhy so hey Fisker
08:59.33Fiskerhey Megalon
09:02.02sbugiev new intel cpu nao :/
09:02.31Fiskerthe new intel cpus aren't even for the performance market :(
09:02.34Fiskernot at launch anyway
09:02.45sbumh?
09:02.46nevcairielyeah, needs 6 core sandy bridge noaw
09:02.52sbunevcairiel: yup
09:03.02nevcairielfirst batch of sandy bridge is going to be quads
09:03.11sbuoh, i see
09:03.26sbushould be okay, i want that! :p
09:04.06nevcairielconfirmed are the i3 variants as dual core, the i5 quads without HT, and the i7 quads with HT
09:04.22sbui want that i7 2600 :p
09:04.41nevcairiel6 and 8 core wont be out until q3 2011 at the earliest
09:05.29nevcairielI guess i'll be getting a 8core sandy bridge for christmas 2011 :p
09:06.31nevcairieldo i read right that the 6 and 8 cores use quadruple-link memory now? :d
09:08.32Repo10dungeon-ach-tracker: 03OrionShock 07master * 144fb65 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
09:08.34Repo144fb65: fix mob detection on mouseover
09:08.35Repo048350f: fix table glitch
09:08.37Repob5f4b09: disable debug
09:10.48sbunevcairiel: are there release dates for i3-i7?
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09:11.19nevcairielQ4/10 - Q1/11 last i heard
09:12.15Fiskerooh 8 dimm slots?
09:13.01nevcairiel32gb ram, here we come! :p
09:13.10Fiskerunless you are a sucker
09:13.19Fiskerand technically i believe it would be 48GB
09:13.21Fiskererr
09:13.23Fisker64 GB
09:13.38nevcairielwith 8 gb modules, but those are f'ing expensive!
09:13.49nevcairieldo they even exist these days?
09:13.50Fiskertoday yeah :P
09:13.56Fiskerexisted for quite some time
09:14.13FiskerBut as far as i know they're pretty much only available from Kingston themselves
09:14.22Fiskerit's not something you see in net shops or anything
09:14.30Fisker(because it's too expensive)
09:14.54Fiskersucks to be windows 7 home premium users though
09:14.54nevcairielprobably in reg/ecc variants for server market
09:16.23sbuFisker: whats wrong with win 7 hp?
09:16.47Fisker16GB memory limit
09:17.47sbui dont care :p
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09:18.42Fiskerwell it's going to suck when you get more than 16GB
09:19.37Brunersit sucked long enough with 32 bit and having 4GiB
09:20.08Fiskertrue
09:20.18Fiskerthey should just discontinue 32-bit already
09:20.23Fiskerlike they did with windows server
09:20.37the-golemlol
09:20.43Brunersthey should find a way to run 16bit apps in 64 bit
09:20.49Fiskernaw
09:20.56Brunersi need my Risk 2!
09:21.00Fiskerand they have a waay
09:21.03the-golemsomehow I don't suspect 16GB memory limit would be much of an issue for me.
09:21.05the-golemjust sayin
09:21.07Fiskerit's called virtual machine :D
09:21.16Fiskerwhy not the-golem ?
09:21.16Brunerswhich is what i'm using now
09:21.46Brunersthe-golem: just wait, when i was young upgrading to 32MiB ram was huge
09:22.06Fiskerwould be awesome if Blizzard made 64-bit builds in cataclysm
09:22.12the-golembecause 4GB isn't even an issue, so 16GB sure as heck wont be
09:22.13Brunersi'm still young tho
09:22.37Fiskeran issue?
09:23.09the-goleman issue, as in a problem; a setback
09:23.27Fiskerwhat is the issue?
09:23.34sbuerrr 4gb is a problem for me
09:23.51the-golemthere is no issue, that's what I've been saying
09:23.51sbui want my 8gb back :|
09:23.52Bruners4GiB is the minimum you need nowadays
09:24.16Fiskeryarrgh Bruners
09:24.19sbuyou cant even run 2 wow instances + browser on win7 with only 4 gb :p
09:24.39quiescensi would imagine you could
09:24.47the-golemIn other words, I dont expect being limited to 16GB memory as putting a cramp on my style :p
09:24.48Brunerspagefiles!
09:25.30the-golemwhat's killing me is this lappy's video
09:26.00Brunersdon't buy a laptop with crappy video and complain about it's crappy video
09:26.01the-golemcuz the HDD on my Core2 machine had the rotten sense to crap out on me
09:26.31the-golemI didn't buy anything, the VA bought it for me.
09:26.39Fiskeranyway i must saving up for a machine in 2011 then
09:26.49Fiskershould be 1TB SSD's then as well
09:26.52Fiskerif not more
09:27.05Brunersdon't really need more than 300GiB
09:27.19Brunersunless you need to load your porn ultra fast
09:27.30the-golemspeaking of which
09:27.32Fiskerno point in mechanical hardware Bruners
09:27.52the-golemAnyone know of how to recover a possible crashed HDD?
09:28.03Brunerssure
09:28.35the-golem...and if so, would you please share that info with me ^^
09:28.58Brunersneed to find the folder i have stuff in
09:29.05Brunersnot sure where i have it
09:29.07quiescensits over there ->
09:29.24Brunersthe-golem: what os btw?
09:29.47BrunersFile Scavenger is what i used i think
09:29.55the-golemthe crashed machine is WinXP
09:30.45the-golemthe HDD doesn't even register on the bios anymore :-/
09:31.06Brunershttp://pastey.net/140142
09:31.21Brunersif the bios can't find it i think you are out of luck
09:31.29Brunersunless you want to pay someone to do it
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09:32.29Brunerscould be the controller, so "just" find a new one solder it on
09:33.47sbuoh
09:33.53sbunevcairiel, speaking of http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row
09:44.31Fiskerso we're going to have to wait for LGA-2011
09:48.28nevcairielthey haven't even released specs on the X chipset
09:48.37nevcairielwhich would probably come for LGA2011
09:48.54nevcairielif not even a 7 series
09:50.33nevcairielfunny how the new i5 seems to outperform the 980X in WoW :P
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09:51.46Fiskerhttp://gizmodo.com/5624179/microsoft-script-kiddies-and-hackers-accidentally-send-us-their-code-all-the-time <-hacker fail
09:52.21nevcairielscript kiddies are just stupid, is what
09:55.51Repo10grid-indicator-side-plus: 03kunda * r7 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a bug if Grid is toggled on/off.
09:55.53Repo- Added a simple Configuration Mode, so that it's easier to setup size/position and the other options.
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10:08.12koaschtenthe-golem you could try to get an identical hdd and replace the electronics from the "broken" one with the working electronics
10:08.17koaschtenwith a bit of luck that works
10:12.31Repo10grid-indicator-side-plus: 03kunda 0430300-2 * r8 : Tagging as 30300-2
10:25.30the-golemthe platters would still be fine?
10:27.45nevcairieltheoretically
10:29.55the-golemstupid drive
10:30.12the-golemlived long enough to get past it's "3-year warrenty" then poof
10:30.30the-golems/warrenty/warranty/
10:34.16the-golemI spose I could try that. Barring that, would the data be recoverable, even if it's not bootable?
10:38.14quiescenso.o
10:38.56nevcairielthats what you get for not making backups
10:39.05quiescenstisk
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10:43.07koaschtennevcairiel sbu -> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Razzia-im-Kinderzimmer-1068821.html
10:44.16nevcairielhaha idiots, talking about it to the police
10:44.48nevcairielyou know whats fun, i know some people that work for the police and come to our lan partys alot, all going wild on "sharing" ;)
10:45.57koaschtenThey no how to keep free time and job apart ^^
10:48.11koaschtenhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=2000&topicId=26560769980
10:48.21koaschtennext beta patch will have ui addon support again
10:48.58nevcairielold news
10:49.01nevcairiel;)
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11:40.21Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r108 / (3 files in 1 directory): added esMX and zhCN locales
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12:21.31evlAnyone know of an alternative to Auctioneer for buying rule based in bulk on AH?
12:27.38koaschtenis there really a good alternative to auctioneer?
12:27.53koaschtenthe amount of rules and statistics is unmatched as far as i see it.
12:29.12Brunersauctionator or something
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12:29.47Brunersunless you need one billion random data on items that gives you no value at all
12:35.09Fisker"They would be forced to try and set up proxies in each country, which they wouldn't get away with under EU law."
12:36.39BrunersEU sucks, eod
12:36.53Fiskerit's bs
12:45.57sbuhttp://www.hornoxe.com/wp-content/picdumps/picdump169/thumbs/thumbs_hornoxe.com_picdump169_04.jpg :D
12:46.15nevcairielhahah
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13:07.07Repof2c0022: Enforce UnitUpdated message on area effect application on new units
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14:30.37sylvanaartaking bets on wheter or not i'll regret doing that
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14:34.46Repo10acp: 03sylvanaar * r44 localization-enUS.lua: fix enUS error
14:39.19sylvanaarif you use ACP in non enUS locales can you try out the alpha?
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14:57.34Repo- Fixed a bug in whispers for Amplify Magic.  Now only whispers those with the most points spent.
14:57.35Repo- Added a slight tweak for Death Drip to handle situations where the boss is tauntable but not gripable.
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14:58.47arkanesaddon functionality coming to the beta in next push, apparently
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16:09.04sylvanaarit should be in the channel topic
16:09.56sylvanaarnevcairiel: add it to the channel topic
16:10.06nevcairielno-one reads the topic =(
16:10.17sylvanaarwell we can chatise them
16:10.34sylvanaars/chat/chast/
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16:10.50nevcairielJust have to remember to change it when its atually live :P
16:11.33sbumh, 1 week or less, so... *shrug*
16:12.07sylvanaartime to grep getglobal
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16:25.13sylvanaarhttp://github.com/sylvanaar/Cataclysm-FrameXML
16:26.25sylvanaarits extracted by hand, not the bogus extract from the addon kit
16:27.21nevcairielmeh, i'm not actually interested in the full xml, rather the diffs between versions
16:27.54nevcairielhow did you extract it?
16:29.45sylvanaaryou can get the diffs, i checked in live then checked in cata over it
16:30.01nevcairieli want the diffs since the last build before the streaming client
16:30.02nevcairiel:D
16:30.08sylvanaarwhich build
16:30.12sylvanaarnumber
16:30.18nevcairieljust tell me how to get the files :p
16:30.27sylvanaar=P
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16:30.50sylvanaardo you run windows
16:31.04nevcairielyes
16:32.41Megalonladiks?
16:33.15sylvanaaryeah
16:33.38Megalonread some time ago that they had some support on this streaming mpq stuff
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16:34.43sylvanaaryeah, im not sure that support is really needed
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16:45.29nevcairielcreate mode 100644 FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.lua
16:45.29nevcairielcreate mode 100644 FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.xml
16:45.29nevcairielrewrite FrameXML/SecureTemplates.lua (62%)
16:45.29nevcairielrewrite FrameXML/SecureTemplates.xml (93%)
16:45.34nevcairielguess they finally touched the secure stuff
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16:48.48Fiskerwtfffffffffffffffff Megalon
16:49.28nevcairielwoot, reconstructed full history
16:51.58Tullerdun dun dun
16:53.34sylvanaarare yours the same as mine nevcairiel?
16:53.40sylvanaari want to double check mine
16:53.45nevcairieli'll compare in a sec
16:53.59nevcairielupdating the changelog in my repo
16:54.05hastenevcairiel: do you have that git repo somewhere sane?
16:54.08hasteor will I have to do it myself
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16:55.50nevcairielhttp://github.com/Nevcairiel/wow-ui-source/tree/cataclysm
16:56.08nevcairielif anyone had it cloned before, i was evil and did some history rewriting because my previous 12649 was apparently wrong
16:56.16hastefail~ :P
16:56.31nevcairieli rather have a clean history in that one =P
16:56.55hastebut now you can't have tek merge it!
16:57.03evlWonder if they got any plans for updating the basic UI. action bars, player/target frame etc.
16:57.04nevcairielhis history was so severly broken
16:57.12nevcairielthat was the first thing i fixed
16:57.23nevcairielit actually diverged somewhere in the midlde
16:57.28nevcairielno idea how he manage that :D
16:57.46nevcairielwell now to compre to sylvanaar's
16:58.23Tullernow my git hates you :P
16:58.38nevcairieljust fetch and reset --hard
16:59.39nevcairielsylvanaar: yours seems missing some new files that appeared in the last patch files
16:59.45nevcairielhow did you extract it?
16:59.51sylvanaarwhich files are missing?
17:00.01sylvanaari overlayed all the patches by hand
17:00.19nevcairielFrameXML\UnitPowerBarAlt.xml/lua for example
17:00.26nevcairielits a new power bar, apparently
17:00.44hasteread that as a folder.
17:00.45sylvanaarwhat patch was it from
17:01.34nevcairielI selected enUS\locale-enUS.mpg, enUS\patch-enUS-12694.mpq, and patch-base-12694.mpq and all wow-update-*.mpg in Patch Mode in that tool
17:01.59sylvanaarer
17:02.19nevcairiel12803 added that file there
17:03.51nevcairielanyone know what the "urgency" paramter on statusbar textures does? :d
17:04.01sylvanaarthey all seem to be 5
17:04.12nevcairieli noticed that
17:04.18sylvanaari bet its for streaming
17:04.25nevcairielah, that might be
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17:06.45nevcairielself:RegisterEvent("WARGAME_REQUESTED");
17:06.47nevcairielwth is a wargame?
17:07.26Stanzillarated BGs?
17:09.30Tullerbattlechess?
17:09.30Funkeh`nevcairiel, an invite to go have a game of sc2?
17:09.32Funkeh`:D
17:11.29Tullerthe flyout stuff makes me even happier that I went the "reuse action buttons" route
17:11.37Tullerthough now i need to figure out how it looks + button grid
17:12.03nevcairielyeah, will have to see how those flyouts work
17:15.47nevcairielTuller: they are just being mean with their changes, they renamed RegisterStateDriver to RegisterAttributeDriver just to make us fix it =P
17:16.08Tullerbah
17:17.24nevcairielwait, nvm, they have alias functions for those
17:17.31nevcairiel+-- Bridge functions for compatibility
17:17.31nevcairiel+function RegisterStateDriver(frame, state, values)
17:17.31nevcairiel+    return RegisterAttributeDriver(frame, "state-"..state, values);
17:17.31nevcairiel+end
17:18.12nevcairielhm looks like more changes with the whole system
17:18.14nevcairielreads on
17:18.21Xinhuanwhy even rename the damn function
17:18.25Xinhuanif there's a bridge function
17:18.31orionshockgrr, fuck..
17:18.32nevcairielbecause the functionality changes, apparently
17:18.36nevcairielmaybe the new one can do more
17:18.36Xinhuanunless they intend to rename it
17:18.43orionshockpermissions to wow beta are all screwed up again on linux..
17:18.48Xinhuanand they added the new function name as a "new prototype"
17:18.55orionshockany help?
17:19.33Xinhuandunno about you orionshock, but i couldn't get the streaming downloader to work at all until i explicity gave the wow folder "full control" to my user account
17:19.38Xinhuan(in windows 7)
17:19.55Xinhuaneven though i'm on an admin account, and whether the downloader is running in admin mode is irrelevant
17:20.17nevcairielnow this is nice, you can finally set it to nil
17:20.18Xinhuanand even then it still refuses to patch the last 524kb
17:20.32Xinhuanso my PLAY button is permanently disabled
17:20.32Tullerset the state to nil?
17:20.45Xinhuani can only play wow by running wow.exe explicitly
17:20.47nevcairielpass "nil" as string and it sets it to nil
17:20.48Xinhuannot by launcher
17:20.54Tullerah
17:21.04nevcairieli needed that before for something
17:21.06nevcairielforgot what it was
17:22.09nevcairielflyouts get secure support directly, they rememberd to add it for us, hooray :)
17:22.50Xinhuanat least i don't need 14 buttons for my teleports and portals now
17:23.11orionshocknow the fn' patcher won't connect
17:23.12orionshockwtf
17:23.13nevcairieltoo bad they moved the raid/group headers to a new file
17:23.19nevcairielcan't see diffs in it this way
17:23.37Xinhuandoes blizzard's "grid" use the secure headers?
17:24.04Xinhuanor do they abuse secure status as they have always done
17:25.31orionshockXinhuan, prolly the later than former
17:25.56Stanzillareading the comments is still the best
17:25.57Stanzilla--DEBUG FIXME - We should really try to avoid having OnUpdate on every frame. An event when going in/out of range would be greatly preferred.
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17:26.17nevcairiel--Hah, "Bounds" instead of "SizeAndPosition". WHO NEEDS A THESAURUS NOW?!
17:26.26Stanzilla^^
17:27.51orionshockXinhuan, it acts more like the launcher has no f'n clue where the linux networking stack is though wine
17:28.37Xinhuani don't have the motivation to read ANY code or comments this week or next Stanzilla :)
17:28.47StanzillaI know :p
17:29.06Tulleri really wish blizzard had to obey their secure state rules :P
17:29.53nevcairielmmm
17:30.04nevcairielthey removed the control handle from the restricted env
17:30.07nevcairieli used that :(
17:30.34nevcairielbyebye control:RunFor
17:30.51Tullerand nev: git clone http://github.com/Nevcairiel/wow-ui-source.git
17:30.51TullerCloning into wow-ui-source...
17:30.52Tullerremote: error: Could not read 6a04e7a428fa5aa7dcb5475939215f81ba356fb7
17:30.52Tullerremote: fatal: Failed to traverse parents of commit d76abcc2920228f34d696eb84857460ea95a7a65
17:30.52Tullerremote: aborting due to possible repository corruption on the remote side.
17:31.14nevcairielwut
17:31.34nevcairielrepushes the whole deal
17:31.55Tullermessage from a friend just now:
17:32.00Tuller"
17:32.00Tulleryou sir, should pioneer corporate sponsorship of wow mods
17:32.00Tuller1:25
17:32.00Tuller» Dominos by the Container Store
17:32.00Tuller1:25
17:32.00Tuller» Bed, Bath, and Bagnon"
17:32.18nevcairiellol
17:32.46nevcairielisnt advertising against the addon ToU?
17:32.59Tulleri never looked into that
17:33.36Tullerand your repo is still hated by my git :P
17:33.36nevcairielthere seem to be quite some changes in the group headers
17:33.50nevcairielcant wait to see every UF break
17:34.30nevcairielalso, there is a securauraheader now o.O
17:35.12nevcairielguess buff addons can do more stuff now
17:35.18Tullermakes me feel better about dropping sage
17:36.04orionshockwell my beta client is shot to hell now....
17:37.12kagaroyou know i woder if dk presence has been fixed so it doesnt drop every time you switch specs
17:42.47nevcairielTuller: i'm uploading the whole repository again
17:43.04sylvanaaryou can just download zips
17:43.08sylvanaarand diff them
17:43.36nevcairielsomething was apparently broken on the remote side, like to have that working =)
17:43.51kagarolooks like at 1 point holy power was going/is going to  be a UNIT_POWER update, now its counts buffs
17:43.53orionshockso the addon kit still broken?
17:44.02nevcairielyes
17:44.10orionshockwish they'd fix that
17:44.39nevcairielhm
17:44.42nevcairielarena frames got removed?
17:45.38sylvanaaryeah, yours has more of the patch than mine nev, i dunno what i missed
17:45.57nevcairielTuller: cloning works now
17:46.05nevcairielremote must've been messed up somehow
17:46.20Tulleryes, yes it does
17:46.53nevcairielthats whats great about git, mess one copy up, just use the other to fix it =)
17:47.06SlikerI'll just butt in, sorry: are JPGs at quality 10 lossless, or do I need TGA for that
17:47.21nevcairieljpg is never lossless
17:47.34Slikeroh. bah.
17:48.04Tulleralso, run and runfor seem to be in there
17:48.07kagaronev where is the flyout raid menu at?
17:48.07Tullerunless I did something stupid
17:48.28nevcairielhuh, all i see was the removal of the whole control thing
17:48.40nevcairielbut i'm going patch by patch
17:48.48nevcairielmaybe it was re-added, not there yet =P
17:49.03Tullerhandle:Run and handle:RunFor are in the restrictedframes.lua
17:50.42nevcairielERR_DIFFICULTY_CHANGE_HEROIC_INSTANCE_ALREADY_RUNNING = "Your heroic instance is already in running and in use by another party";
17:50.47nevcairielinteresting, they have a error for that now :p
17:51.49Humbedoohsilly event to fire
17:52.42nevcairielits not a event
17:52.51nevcairieljust the text message from globalstrings
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17:53.18Humbedoohmkay
17:53.24Humbedoohotherwise it'd be a bit redundant
17:53.25orionshockso, i guess blizzard isn't using the torrent method anymore eh?
17:53.37Humbedoohone can only hope, orionshock
17:53.50orionshockI found a torrent file in the temp files, but..
17:54.01orionshockwhen i load it up i get a 404 on the blizzard tracker
17:54.13nevcairielit feels like some kind of p2p, but with the incremental loading, it would be a bit weird, i bet
17:54.21Humbedoohdoesn't mean it doesn't exist tho
17:54.54orionshockmy problem with it all, i open the launcher & then it hangs.
17:55.02nevcairieluse a real os :p
17:55.17orionshockreading the logs the launcher tells the downloader to GTFO & then btches about loosing comms with the downloader...
17:55.18orionshock>.>
17:55.43nevcairielguess the wine devs always hate blizzard betas
17:55.46nevcairielso much things to fix .p
17:56.13koaschtenhmm i know you can jump to a certain point in a youtube vid via #t=XXmYYs , but can i stop after a certain amount too? anyone?
17:56.39Humbedoohnot with the default player methinks
17:57.23quiescenso.o
17:57.48orionshockbout to say f' it and grab wine proper
17:58.25Humbedoohyou'd think they'd be able to make a linux binary by now ;<
17:58.36Humbedoohor bsd at least
17:58.47kagarocrap sylvanaar's git tree just vanished
17:59.11nevcairielkagaro: use mine :p
17:59.16kagarojust switched
17:59.37Xinhuanthe problem i have with the blizzard tracker is
18:00.10Xinhuanthat it would connect, get an error code 1, then get an error code 3 then the downloader will tell the windows firewall to block the downloader and all downloads cease
18:00.25nevcairieldisable the firewall? :)
18:00.30sylvanaari deleted mine - use nevs
18:00.32Xinhuanit still stops
18:00.36Humbedoohdisable windows? ;>
18:00.41Xinhuanbut without even requesting the firewall to block
18:00.50Xinhuanso i don't think it has anything to do with windows
18:00.54nevcairielI only had some issues with the initial version
18:00.58Xinhuanreceiving the error code 3 stops downloads
18:01.04nevcairielever since then its working just peachy
18:01.07quiescenswhat is an error code 3
18:01.11Xinhuanno idea
18:01.14Xinhuanit just says that
18:01.18Xinhuanin the downloader.log
18:01.20nevcairieland i even run UAC at the highest level
18:01.33Xinhuanive had nothing but problems with the streaming client
18:01.35nevcairielwhich confuses some other apps
18:01.51Xinhuanit doesn't even work with UAC disabled
18:01.53sylvanaari guess the SC is hit or miss
18:02.03sylvanaarit works flawlessly for me
18:02.20Xinhuanat one point, it just downloaded a massive 600 kb/sec
18:02.25Xinhuanbut wrote NONE of the data it downloaded to disk
18:02.27Xinhuanfor hours
18:02.35sylvanaarthere are almost no chatframe changes thank god
18:02.43nevcairielheh
18:03.07Xinhuanand the reason it wrote nothing was because the wow folder i installed it to doesn't have have explicit "full control" rights
18:03.16Xinhuanyet it could create and write every single log file
18:03.22Xinhuanand the downloader was launched in admin mode
18:03.29nevcairieli like how they added /randompet
18:03.37sylvanaarjust delete inherited permissions on your wow folder
18:04.04Xinhuanstill why would i have to do that
18:04.12sylvanaarwhere is it located?
18:04.18Xinhuanteh folder has full rights to Admins group on H:\Games
18:04.24Xinhuanand i'm on the admins group
18:04.38sylvanaaryou have to watch out for inherited permissions
18:04.42Xinhuanthe downloader refused to write any data until i added User\Xinhuan explicitly
18:04.45nevcairielall my drives are setup for full control to Users and Administrators, inheriting all through the tree
18:04.48nevcairielseems to work fine
18:04.54Xinhuanand it gave no error
18:04.59Xinhuanso i must have downloaded over 40 gb
18:05.01quiescensits supposed to be bad programming practice to try to look at the permissions to decide whether to write
18:05.02Xinhuanbefore i realized it
18:05.14quiescenswhen you're supposed to just try to write, and react if it fails instead
18:05.28sylvanaarwho says
18:05.33quiescensbecause end user programs shouldn't assume they understand the filesystem unless they have to (disk utilities etc)
18:05.35Xinhuanyou see, the downloader can create all those .lock files
18:05.45quiescensand because you can potentially check the permissions
18:05.46Xinhuanand alter and append and create all the .log files
18:05.52quiescensand then the permissions end up changing
18:05.56Xinhuanit even created all the folders and files
18:05.58quiescensbefore you get to do what you were trying to do
18:06.02Xinhuanbut it can't write to them
18:06.08Xinhuanstupid right?
18:06.23Xinhuanand after closing the downloader, it deletes all the .lock files
18:06.34Xinhuanperfectly fine
18:06.59sylvanaaryou know if you have any of the mpq's locked it will try to download them all again
18:07.25Xinhuanthe .lock files only exist when the downloader is running
18:07.28Xinhuanit creates them for all files
18:07.32Xinhuanin all subfolders
18:07.58Xinhuaneven the ones that are complete
18:08.10Xinhuanmpqs that is
18:08.34Xinhuani even rebooted to win xp
18:08.37Xinhuansame issue
18:08.42Xinhuanas win 7
18:09.33Xinhuani'm definitely not recommending the streaming client, my launcher's PLAY button is perma disabled
18:09.44Xinhuanits at "524 kb remains"
18:09.50Xinhuanand it never gets written
18:10.04kagaroso /transform a worgen thign i take it?
18:10.11sylvanaarrun procmon and see
18:10.15sylvanaarwhat its doing
18:10.38Xinhuanwhat it does is it first tells windows firewall to open the ports and UPNP and stuff
18:10.41Xinhuanit connects to the tracker
18:10.51Xinhuandownloads for about 20 secs (about 10 mb)
18:10.58Xinhuanthen the tracker responds with an error code 3
18:11.09Xinhuanand the downloader tells windows firewall to block the ports
18:11.13nevcairielmaybe they don't like your country
18:11.13Xinhuanand it stops downloading
18:11.21Xinhuanand pretends to contonue downloading
18:11.28Xinhuanfrom that point on, there is no network or disk activity
18:11.31sylvanaardid you download it from battle.net
18:11.35Xinhuanyes
18:11.50sylvanaartry a proxy yeah
18:11.57Xinhuani basically did a reinstall
18:12.12Xinhuani deleted launcher.wtf at one point to see if it does anything
18:12.17Xinhuanit recreated one, and
18:12.23Xinhuanfrom that point onwards, my PLAY button is perma disabled
18:12.30Xinhuaneven though i have 99.9% downloaded
18:12.37Xinhuancan only play by running wow.exe
18:12.47sylvanaaroh
18:13.04quiescensits probably sylvanaar's fault
18:13.05quiescens!
18:13.20sylvanaarproabaly
18:13.36sylvanaarpeople like to blame me for things
18:13.52quiescens/blame
18:14.12sylvanaarlets see what trouble i can get into today
18:15.42quiescensglobal thermonuclear war
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18:18.34Humbedoohoh noes
18:18.42Humbedoohsylvanaar wrote an addon to replace himself!
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18:22.16sylvanaari need a better bot
18:22.36sylvanaarmine isnt very interesting
18:29.00sylvanaar$Disconnect
18:29.22sylvanaaryawns
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18:45.26Aikaranyone recommend an addon for party quest progress sync so i can see party members progress/current quest list (ie see his quest journal) if were both using same addon
18:47.37koaschtenwithout him having the addon?
18:47.41Aikarwith him
18:47.44Aikarits my roommate
18:47.52koaschtentry talking to him?
18:48.10Aikarlol, easier than having to say out each one
18:48.32Aikari know addons like that existed 4 years ago
18:55.33sylvanaari like the ones that just echo the quest warning text
18:55.38sylvanaaror whatever its called
18:55.56sylvanaarthe yellow text on your screen when you complete an objective
18:56.13nevcairielI hate that when i join some random dungeon and they spam that for dungeon quests
18:56.34sylvanaari knew you would
18:56.40Aikarmainly just being able to see [XXX quest progress: blue fish 3/7]
18:56.43Aikaris what i want
18:56.50HumbedoohNevcairiel Annoyed: 1/1
18:57.18sylvanaar^ this
18:57.20nevcairielIts not like we usually chat in dungeon groups, but its still stuff i don't care at all about =P
18:57.46nevcairielalthough it does tell me "hey, another noob running it for the first time"
18:57.58sylvanaarthats what achievements are for
18:58.09nevcairieltrue
18:58.55Aikardid they remove the ability to speak in other languages?
18:59.14sylvanaarof course now
18:59.24Aikarwhy o.o
18:59.34sylvanaars/ow/ot/
18:59.35Humbedoohs/now/not/ and such
18:59.49Aikarhow do you change now? its not on right click menu
19:00.10sylvanaarits on the chat menu
19:00.13sylvanaarthe bubble
19:00.38nevcairielmm wonder if the supermarket is open to 22:00 on saturdays as well
19:00.50Humbedoohofc they are
19:01.03Humbedoohwell Willy's at least, and those ICA thingies
19:01.05Humbedoohthe big ones
19:01.06Aikarhmm wonder if chatter is hiding it
19:01.17Humbedoohwith all the fat swedes
19:01.27nevcairielnever heard those names
19:01.31nevcairielbut it appears its as well
19:01.34nevcairieland its only 21:00
19:01.38nevcairielbbiab
19:10.20Humbedoohwru function for getting image width/size ;|
19:10.31Humbedoohoh well, cubed it is
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19:45.57quiescensi don't really mind the quest progress thingies except for the ones that are like
19:46.01quiescensx/100
19:46.51quiescensif its the usual 5 or 10 who really cares o.o
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22:05.25Fiskerwhat snow?
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22:21.22Connor1http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&cn=Steelytusk
22:21.26Connor1Shadow's Edge in the offhand lol
22:22.25starlonegads his gear sucks
22:22.26Stanzillathat's not the problem
22:22.39Stanzillacrappy axe in the mainhand is
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