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00:23.31ccKepanyone know if pitbull4 supports boss1...bossN frames? (either by itself or any extra addon)
00:24.08ccKepdidn't find anything in the FAQ, ticket's still open though... as has been for month, don't know if thats the actual state
00:25.10SqueeGhave you tried posting ont he forums too? xD
00:25.47ccKepbeen busy digging through the billion-pages long thread ;)
00:25.56SqueeGxD
00:26.08ccKepthought I'd ask here instead of asking a question in the forum thats most certainly been asked a dozen times
00:26.22ccKep(which I'm just unable to find, I think)
00:26.33SqueeGdunno if a question like taht would be asked so frequently
00:27.45SqueeGhttp://purl.rikers.org/%23wowace/20091209.html.gz
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00:33.15orionshockShefki, did u guys add boss frames to PB4 ?
00:36.51ShefkiNo
00:38.40ccKepare they (still?) under development (if so: is there an ETA?) or was the idea discarded?
00:39.16ShefkiETA is whenever I get them done.  I don't have a ton of time right now to work on stuff.
00:39.54ccKeplast post on the ticket was early june, thus why I ask ;)
00:40.01ccKepglad to hear the idea hasn't been discarded though
00:40.37ShefkiNothing like that would be discarded.  It just hasn't been done.
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00:46.53Repo10grid-indicator-side-plus: 03Sayclub * r5 GridIndicatorSidePlus.toc: add koKR local
00:47.37Repo10grid-indicator-side-plus: 03Sayclub * r6 GridIndicatorSidePlus-localization-koKR.lua: add koKR local
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01:34.51Aikarok i havent played since 2006 before TBC, FuBar use to be alot better than TitanPanel on resources and overall a nicer system, I see both are still going, but which is stronger (ie more supported/plugins) and does titanpanel still resource hog?
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01:57.47DWSRAikar: TitanPanel > FuBar
01:57.57DWSRPurely because TP supports LDB out of the box.
02:02.32Aikarldb?
02:04.36AikarDWSR: sorry long time no play, whats LDB?
02:04.43AikarLibDataBroker?
02:04.51Aikarive seen that said some places
02:04.56Aikarno clue what it is tho
02:05.25DWSRIt's a standard way to provide information for addons.
02:05.27DWSRerr.
02:05.32DWSRFor addons to display information*
02:05.41Aikarofficial from blizzard ie better performance?
02:05.43DWSRNo.
02:05.49DWSRIt's a defacto standard.
02:06.08DWSRIn the beginning, you had to support TP's plugin API, or FuBar's, and the two weren't compatible.
02:06.27DWSRThere were some attempts to make TP plugins that allowed you to use FB plugins, but they weren't always stable, etc.
02:06.59DWSRThe addon community came up with a standard, which TP natively supports and FB doesn't, that is open and specific.
02:07.09Aikarso LDB is a standard for "info display", as established by Blizz, and TP plugins use it for integration?
02:07.11DWSRIt also brought to life other mods such as Fortress.
02:07.20DWSRNo, it was never established by Blizzard.
02:07.24Aikarah k
02:07.26DWSRAnd TP plugins don't neccessarily use it.
02:07.37DWSRTP itself supports its own proprietary format, or LDB.
02:07.46Aikargotcha
02:07.51YssarilAikar: its not a display its a way for an addon to hand out information and for a display to grab that info and display it
02:07.54DWSRFB only supports its own format, you have to get another plugin to get FB to work with LDB.
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02:08.28Aikardoes TP use Ace now? I remember WoWAce being a shared library made using Ace addons better on performance instead of every addon duplicating code. Whats the deal with that these days?
02:08.34bluspacecow\o
02:08.36bluspacecowQQ
02:08.47Aikarwipes blu's tears
02:08.49bluspacecowmy PPC mac will not run cata
02:08.50bluspacecowQQ
02:08.53DWSRWin.
02:08.58DWSRApple is the root of all evil.
02:09.02DWSRBurninate.
02:09.05bluspacecownew computer time !
02:09.21YssarilAikar: http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/addons-using-ldb <-- good source of displays and info addons
02:09.22bluspacecowdood that's dangerous for the enviroment
02:09.27bluspacecow*takes out hammer*
02:09.29Aikarhttp://tinyurl.com/ffxivcheap im running similar specs to that and its running wow great :P
02:09.30bluspacecowHAMMER TIME!
02:09.48DWSRAikar: Ace allows authors to use a framework to do all of the repetitive and basic stuff for them (creating frames, watching events, etc.) and then get to the part of actually "doing stuff".
02:09.51bluspacecowLDB is the shiznit
02:10.05Aikaryeah i know what ace is, i was a big user of it in 2006
02:10.09DWSRAnother advantage is that, if you have many Ace addons, they all only load the Ace framework 1 time, saving hugely on memory.
02:10.14bluspacecowbut ace can sometimes be too much of an overhead to those who like to craft their own >_>
02:10.16DWSRAnd yes, TP uses Ace.
02:10.18Aikari mean, has things improved since then, or is using Ace addons still better?
02:10.21DWSRbluspacecow: It depends on what you're doing.
02:10.33bluspacecowyep that would be my cavaet
02:10.43Shadowedoh god
02:10.45Aikaryea i understand all that DWSR, i almost started devving under Ace too during my times
02:10.47Shadowedare you supporting TP
02:10.51ShadowedTP is god awful and should be burned
02:10.52Aikari was a big pusher of Ace to my guild lol
02:10.56DWSRShadowed: Over FuBar, yes.
02:10.59Shadowedno
02:11.00bluspacecowoh well my computer is nearly 5 years old
02:11.03ShadowedFB is better than TP
02:11.12YssarilAikar: Ace is just a library as such there can be good Ace addons and terrible ones
02:11.12DWSRGod no.
02:11.17bluspacecowaikar : this does not mean Ace addons are instantly magic hot sauce fast to run with little memory
02:11.24Aikari know that :P
02:11.25bluspacecowshitty coders write shitty code into addons
02:11.29bluspacecowace will not save them from that
02:11.39Aikarand 95% of coders are shitty coders
02:11.42bluspacecow>_>
02:11.43DWSR99.9%.
02:11.43Shadowed99*
02:11.46DWSR*cough*
02:11.48bluspacecow:)
02:11.49Aikari was being nice :(
02:12.52Aikari never thought id freaking end back up in WoW lol... long time FFXI player, was/may be going to FFXIV... but SE has screwed up so freaking bad on the game its pushed me back to WoW
02:13.00bluspacecowheh
02:13.15Aikarhuge design flaws :(
02:13.22bluspacecowpretty much anything I get today will be light years ahead of what I have already ... even a second hand powerbook will be.
02:14.00DWSRAikar, nothing has been able to successfully make a significant dent in WoW's playerbase.
02:14.08Aikarand it would be nice for me to be able to just use Addons, instead of having to be the writer of addons like i had to for FFXI :(
02:14.29bluspacecow*hands deck chair and beer to aikar*
02:14.34bluspacecowyou'll need this
02:14.41Aikari know, SE could of did decent if they didnt screw up so bad.... but silly SE doesnt think its worthwhile to advertise in america/europe lol
02:15.10DWSR"SE could have done good if they didn't do badly." <-- LAWL
02:15.17AikarSE actually thought it would be a good idea to not put an AH/Market into 14 lol....
02:15.33bluspacecowwho is SE ?
02:15.37bluspacecow~wiki SE
02:15.43Aikarthey want you to run and check other players 1 by 1 to see what they have for sale
02:15.47AikarSquare enix
02:15.52Aikarfinal fantasy developer
02:16.06bluspacecowlike purl said
02:16.07bluspacecow"Sanitation Engineer, A reference name for a garbage collector"
02:16.12Aikarlol
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02:46.08TorhalFoof?
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02:47.36arkanesDioxygen Diflouride?
02:47.41arkanesnasty stuff
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03:10.26SqueeGGigabyte or ASUS
03:10.28SqueeG?
03:11.40bluspacecowfor ?
03:18.58Torhalarkanes: Dihydrogen monoxide should never be inhaled.
03:43.40rljohnanyone know what event a fish feast being placed will call
03:43.48rljohnSPELL_CREATE ?
03:45.06bluspacecowhmmm
03:45.16bluspacecowtry being in game and using the /eventtrace command
03:46.15bluspacecowhttp://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/efe5ce28-43af-45f6-8801-2c4e65307194.jpg
03:50.00SqueeGbluspacecow : new pc build
03:50.04SqueeGMy gf's died >>O
03:50.06SqueeG>.O*
03:50.14bluspacecow:(
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03:50.21bluspacecowwhat ya got nows ?
03:50.33bluspacecowhey pretty long haired man
03:51.15SqueeGLooking to go with and AMD + Radeon build
03:51.22bluspacecownice
03:51.29bluspacecowwhat kinda of case ?
03:51.35rljohneventtrace...nice
03:51.38SqueeGHaven't picked one yet
03:51.41rljohnsomething new every day
03:51.53bluspacecowlike that ?
03:52.03bluspacecowtrack the /stack ...
03:52.08bluspacecowdang forget it
03:52.17rljohnhow can i stop tracing
03:52.17bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
03:52.19rljohnwithotu closing the window
03:52.30bluspacecowright click it and theres a menu i think
03:52.34rljohnkk ty
03:52.58SqueeGI want an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
03:53.01bluspacecowa good idea is use the general log to note when you placed something and then go back in the log and search for that time code
03:53.17rljohni just ran that in Dalaran what a trpa
03:53.18rljohntrap
03:53.19rljohnlol
03:53.23bluspacecowgonna put some water cooling ?
03:53.35bluspacecowrjjohn its a trap anywhere cause it logs everything
03:53.39SqueeGNot right now
03:53.51SqueeGthose run pretty cool, stock
03:54.10SqueeGWe're on a budget right now though, so i may have to settle for an x4 D:
03:54.32bluspacecowjust put a power supply in with a decent ampage with built in fan i guess
03:55.12SqueeGI need to pick a board though xD
03:55.22bluspacecowMB ?
03:55.30SqueeGyea
03:56.18SqueeGI've always had ASUS, but there's a lot of recommendations for GBs
03:59.35rljohnah the spell i was looking for was "http://www.wowhead.com/spell=57426" not "http://www.wowhead.com/item=43015" =(
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03:59.41rljohnty eventtrace
04:00.00rljohnty bluespacecow
04:00.36bluspacecownp
04:01.09bluspacecowalthough i don't write addons i do have an analytic mindset
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04:09.23quiescenso.o
04:12.29Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r2 EatTheFeast/: initial commit
04:13.18Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r3 EatTheFeast/EatTheFeast (42 files in 14 directories): redo of initial commit
04:13.31Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r4 EatTheFeast/: oops!
04:13.51Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r5 EatTheFeast (42 files in 14 directories): re-redo of initial commit
04:14.00bluspacecowwtf
04:14.01bluspacecowcata beta client has 2 binaries in its Contents/MacOS (inside the package)
04:15.49Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r6 EatTheFeast/EatTheFeast.lua: quick fix to remove debug line
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04:17.37TorhalI'm becoming rather bored with my BitTorrent client throwing me offline.
04:17.54Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r7 EatTheFeast/EatTheFeast.lua: added "Naxxramas" due to request
04:18.36Repo10recountguessedabsorbs: 03Elsia 04v3.3 stable * r25 : Tagging as v3.3 stable
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04:24.35steevdavebleh, much hate for blizzard
04:25.18bluspacecowwhere ?
04:25.32steevdavei'm still 5 shards away from Shadowmourne
04:32.17Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r8 EatTheFeast/.pkgmeta: adding pkgmeta
04:33.25Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r9 EatTheFeast/Libs/: removing libs
04:34.14Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn 04Release * r10 : Tagging as Release
04:34.48bluspacecow>_>
04:34.53bluspacecowbash shell script
04:35.00bluspacecowi want to grab all arguments
04:35.30bluspacecoweg make a shell script "screencap really long file name with spaces and stuff" -> screen shot with long file name
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04:40.46durcynbluspacecow: "$@"
04:40.57bluspacecowty :)
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04:50.51Arrowmasterbluspacecow: that would still only be one argument
04:51.27Arrowmasterif you dont escape the spaces and make them multiple arguments your program is likely to fail to open the file
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04:51.47bluspacecowoh my
04:51.57bluspacecowi was hoping i wouldn't have to do that >_>
04:52.39Fiskersteevdave
04:53.53bluspacecowscreencapture -it"jpg" "$thename".jpg
04:53.56bluspacecowworks fine
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05:05.28Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn * r11 EatTheFeast/.pkgmeta: fix to pkgmeta
05:06.17Repo10eatthefeast: 03rljohn 04Release 3.3.5 r1 * r12 : Tagging as Release 3.3.5 r1
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05:14.19Wobin@describe eatthefeast
05:14.20RepoWobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/eatthefeast/. EatTheFeast. EatTheFeast is a simple addon that displays the message "Eat the Feast" in your chat frame/UIErrorFrame and plays a small sou...
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06:05.32starlongah... this whole time I've been worried about StarTip's memory usage, and it turn sout the very functions I was using to check memory resources generate a shit load of memory! :)
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06:55.14starloncan you turn off garbage collection?
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07:03.49Torhalstarlon: Why would you want to do that?
07:08.20quiescensto use more ram
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07:17.08starlonno, I was getting frustrated when watching my addon's memory consumption rise, but it's really falling cause of GC
07:17.28starlonso I'm sitting here for a moment trying to determine if it's lower or higher.
07:17.37starlonturning off GC I would know for sure
07:17.45starlonbut it's no biggy. I found the leak.
07:17.52Yssarilstarlon: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-collectgarbage
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07:18.20starlonoh excellent! Thanks
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07:31.22sylvanaarman to get up now or try and go back to bed...that is the question
07:31.36sylvanaar3:30 am ftl
07:35.21the-golemhttp://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cas/1919794030.html
07:35.28the-golemhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/8/27/room-418/
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09:13.33Fiskersteevdave
09:14.36Fiskerhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin
09:15.08sbudie!
09:15.26Fiskeryeeeees
09:15.34Fiskerwhat's the whole chaos bane cancel deal btw?
09:17.07steevdaveFisker: hate.
09:17.09steevdavedunno
09:17.22steevdavei haven't kept up at all recently
09:18.36steevdaveand now i'm off to bed as  i have to be up in 2 hours for work, yay
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09:37.05Fiskerslaps sbu around a bit with a large trout
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09:56.07Megalonwazzup slappery fiskerinho
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10:09.32FiskerThis e-mail is to alert you that, according to our records, the pre-paid game time on your World of Warcraft account has been extended. You have entered a new credit card (****-****-****-03747) as your subscription.
10:09.42FiskerWhen did we start getting 5-digit CC's?
10:09.56Fiskeror atleast 5 digits at the end
10:09.56Fisker:o
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10:39.51asmodaiTorhal: :D
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10:49.24sylvanaar_atworkcould be an amex
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10:58.40sylvanaar_atworkwell amex has 5 at the end, just sayin
11:00.51Fiskeryeah but amex is probably only in the us :P
11:03.10sbuerrr no
11:11.09evlAnyone know if isflying handles krasus/wg yet?
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11:38.14Fiskernot in europe then sbu ?
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11:53.29Ali1331evl: isn't [isflying] if you're on a flying mount/druid form? rather than if you CAN use one
11:53.35evlcan
11:54.44winkyup
11:55.08Thrae[flying] is if you're actually flying.
11:55.50evlisflyable
11:55.56evlmaybe it was, anyway does it work everywhere now?
11:56.12ThraeIs there actually an [isflying]? Doesn't sound right.
11:56.35profalbertIt's [flying] and [flyable]
11:56.39ThraeUsually Blizzard's grammar is better on macros.
11:56.57evlAlright, it's flyable
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11:57.22Thraeevl: Same problem on live, dunno about Cata.
11:57.45Ali1331You can mount everything everywhere in cata
11:57.57Ali1331Flying mounts just run and cant fly if its a ground only area
11:58.29profalbertin dala too?
11:58.32Ali1331ye
11:58.36Ali1331my frostwyrm hops
11:58.36profalbertah
11:58.38Ali1331instead of flying
11:59.05Ali1331and it switches to flying without remount when you enter a flying zone, unlike live
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11:59.52ThraeThat'll so help in Wintergrasp -- damn flying restriction
12:00.19Ali1331Ye WG @ 85 :p
12:00.27ThraeThey only needed to fix that oversight since...WotLK Beta
12:01.37ThraeAli1331: Depending on how the 85 Heirloom gear is handled, WG will still be useful, but yeah, it'll be 85s
12:06.20quiescensflyable was stupid
12:06.21quiescenslol
12:06.53quiescensit was pretty much mightbeflyablebutneverreallysure
12:09.40Megalonthe only thing you got from flyable was if you were in eastern kingdoms or azeroth
12:12.05ThraeMegalon: They did eventually fix it for Dalaran.
12:12.51ThraeBut not Wintergrasp. Probably because Wintergrasp is some scripted event they didn't feel like figuring out.
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12:39.38kagaroanyone able to get to mmoc or am i just in IP dns hell?
12:40.02KalrothI think it's foobar in general
12:40.14Ali1331It moved servers today
12:40.21ThraeWhat, mmo-champion?
12:40.24Ali1331things are a little off still
12:40.25Ali1331yes
12:40.36ThraeWhy don't you ask on their official channel on QuakeNet.
12:40.43kagaroi know it moved servers, just didnt know if the IP moved with it and my dns just hasnt caught up yet
12:41.00Thraekagaro: For Windoze, ipconfig /flushdns
12:41.00Kalroth[DNS] Canonical: mmo-champion.com Numerical: 68.64.47.203
12:41.01Kalrothfor me
12:41.30kagaroi get same ip, thanks
12:41.59kagaroThrae:  i doubt they know
12:42.35ThraeWhat?
12:42.49kagarothey dont manage the hardware
12:43.01kagarocurse does
12:43.09Ali1331there's curse people in the channel though
12:44.40Thraemmo-champion.com was only recently purchased by Curse. I doubt they changed physical datacenters as the old one was working fine.
12:44.50kagarothey do
12:45.05ThraeThey...do? You mean they did?
12:45.14kagaroits been moved
12:45.15Ali1331"As mentioned yesterday, we finally started moving the servers to Curse's infrastructure this week"
12:45.44kagarothe old datacenter was hosted offsite service
12:45.52KalrothThere were pictures of the new servers on frontpage, Thrae :)
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12:47.31kagaroi wonder if beta will get patched today
12:48.27koaschtenIf you can read this news post, you're on the new servers!
12:48.29koaschtenAs mentioned yesterday, we finally started moving the servers to Curse's infrastructure this week. We're still moving a lot of stuff and some pages might be down for a little while but ... we're there! It means we can finally start planning funny updates to the site, and, well, a lot of bug fixes. We also have a couple of shiny pictures, thanks to Xtek.
12:48.38koaschtenjust poke xtek @ kagaro ;)
12:49.06koaschtenstart planning funny updates eeh Bibi ;)
12:49.19kagaroi think bibi is sleeping
12:49.30koaschteni think Bibi is french and its 3pm there :)
12:49.40kagaroafternoon naps!
12:49.55kagaroi was usually asleep @ 3pm when i was living in Italy
12:49.59Megalonthere is no bad time for sleep
12:50.07kagaroafter lunch nap
12:50.57koaschtenjust fucked up an RMA :(
12:51.52koaschtenI mailed in a 300 bucks SSD to a Distributor, with big RMA letters on the box and forgot to put cover letter and prove of purchase into the box.... and only notice a week later because i find both in a stash of paper on my desk...
12:52.23koaschtenMailing the contact i have there returns an auto-reply with "i am on holiday till aug 30th"
12:52.32koaschtenis a sad panda.
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13:14.09RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/eatthefeast/. EatTheFeast. rljohn (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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13:17.19Ackisbslist looks interesting
13:17.33Ackisis there a mod which will take all thinking out of the equation and tell me what is bis?
13:18.15evleat the feast sure likes libraries!
13:18.25evlAckis: no :)(
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16:15.20steevanyone know which mpq file has the lament of the highborne in it?
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16:18.33pompyThe price of Dual-Specialization has been lowered in a recent beta  build, it now costs 100 gold and new players who reach level 40 should  be able to afford it without too much problem.
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16:20.41Superfly_not that it would be a big deal anyway
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17:43.15Funkeh`is steam fucked?
17:44.44Funkeh`they need to arrange these downtimes better
17:44.53Funkeh`have them scheduled and make announcements
17:45.07Funkeh`or ingame popups "steam shutdown in 10 minutes"
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17:57.16winkKaelten: you or anyone responsible for that Curse survey that Bibi linked a few days ago?
17:57.26winkuseability on a mobile device was horrible
17:57.59quiescensuse a computer!
17:58.14winkit's too heavy and the subway has no power outlets
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21:03.13orionshockquestion, is there an addon that auto tracks acheivments for instance boss kills?
21:04.14sbuwhich achievements?
21:04.20sbuhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/raidachievement.aspx something like that?
21:06.35Fiskerslaps sbu around a bit with a large trout
21:07.21orionshocksbu, that's achievment fails, but like in 5man heroics, u come up to a boss and it adds the relavant achevments to the tracker, when the boss dies it untracks them
21:07.30orionshockif it's completed then it dosn't track at all ofc
21:10.05orionshockLike for King Dread in DTK, it'll auto track "Better Off Dread", "DTK", "DTK (Heroic)"
21:12.55durcynhm, that's actually not a bad idea
21:13.27orionshockI think i'll do it as my next addon
21:13.28durcynscan mouseover and/or combat log for names, then check achievement criteria against the string
21:13.47orionshocksadly it'll require a hard coded database of boss id's to acheivments
21:13.55durcynperhaps not.
21:14.34orionshockscanning like that is cumbersom
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21:15.03durcynit's a starting point
21:15.07orionshockand it wouldn't work for ones like "Experienced Drake Rider"
21:15.19durcynso you add exceptions for those
21:15.39orionshockso i'd have a per-boss track and a zone lvl track
21:16.23orionshock& there are ones that are too ugly to track like "Argent Confessor"
21:16.48durcynstring.find(select (7, GetAchievementInfo(foo)), UnitName("mouseover"))
21:17.26durcynhmmm http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11361-Overachiever.html
21:18.51orionshockclose not quite
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21:22.27orionshockdurcyn, did u want to write it togeather?
21:24.08durcyni've been meaning to throw a little something together to automatically untrack completed quests/achievements, hence my interest
21:27.11orionshocki've got a code stub that does that for me
21:38.25evlGah, I wish there was a better way to search ah than item name, regular expressions perhaps :)
21:39.24hastes/regular expressions/lua patterns/
21:40.25evlanything other than whatever
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21:49.11orionshockok, as for some f'ed reason wowwiki dosn't have this info
21:49.24orionshockwhat's the best way to get the NPC ID from the GUID?
21:51.41durcyntonumber((UnitGUID(unit)):sub(-12, -7), 16)
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21:55.05orionshockthanks durcyn
21:55.26orionshocki added it to wow wiki, u'd think the person that wrote that article would have been coherent enough to add that.
21:55.32orionshockhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGUID#Example:_Decomposing_a_GUID
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22:03.32the-golemQuestion regarding ternary, to make sure I grasp it right.
22:04.00the-golema = b and c or d
22:04.28the-golemif b evaluates to true, then a = c, otherwise a = d, correct?
22:05.48orionshockno
22:05.59the-golem*facepalm*
22:06.17orionshockthink,  (a = b) and (c = d)
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22:06.32orionshockif a is equal to b ; and c is equal to d; then
22:07.00orionshockthe-golem, to get what you explained u'd do:
22:07.36orionshock<PROTECTED>
22:08.22arkanesthe-golem: lets not talk about that stupid construct
22:08.28arkanesthe-golem: which is not something you should ever use ever
22:08.30orionshockthink math equations, left to right
22:09.36orionshockthe-golem, what are you trying to do?
22:09.45arkanesthink "if b then a = c else b = d"
22:09.54Slikera = (b) ? c : d
22:09.55Slikeror that
22:09.59arkanesor whateer other logic you were trying to do
22:10.23arkaneslua doesn't have ?:
22:10.29Slikeroh. Thought not
22:10.30the-golem*nods*
22:10.49arkanesbut that doesn't mean the correct thing to do is to try to prove how well you understand boolean short circuiting
22:10.51SlikerI was going to say that's just confusing any way
22:10.58arkanesespecially if you don't actually understand it all so well
22:11.09the-golemarkanes: what's wrong with the lua equivalent of the ternary?
22:11.11arkanesluas if syntax caters to this in a nicely readable way you can put on a single line
22:11.30arkanesthe-golem: well, for starters, its confusing enough that you can't make it work
22:11.55arkanesalso it doesn't have quite the same semantics, although it won't matter unless your expressions have side effects
22:12.25arkanesbut most importantly there's a more clear, better expression of your intent already available in the form of "if"
22:22.27Aikaranyone know what might cause SpartanUI minimap.lua throw an error on login? attempt to index global "MinimalToggleButton"
22:22.40Aikarminimap*
22:28.23the-golemcan one do if string == "A" and not "B" then ... as opposed to if string == "A" and string ~= "B" then ...?
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22:30.52durcynno, you're evaluating by by itself there
22:31.04durcyns/by by/B by/
22:32.09durcynlua> print(1==1~=1)
22:32.16durcynwhere the fuck is that bot
22:34.44Aikarbot heaven?
22:35.20Aikarthe-golem: why tho, if string == A, its not going to equal B
22:40.39the-golemAikar: i see your point ^^
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22:46.05orionshock?
22:46.40orionshockthe-golem, reason it dosn't work is because your putting 2 operaters next to each other w/o any directions, so lua does a smart eval
22:47.14orionshockif ( s == "A") and (not "B") then ... end
22:47.24orionshockis how lua is going to see that logic
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23:27.26Aikaranyone know how to make Chatter stop showing my name twice? its showing timestamp [GE]{Aikar}[Aikar]: msg    where { } is custom brackets for chatter
23:31.08durcyntry the alt names module
23:32.57Aikarohh, its cause i did the "Set Main" and put my same name in? lol
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23:42.47orionshockwoot
23:42.53orionshockhey durcyn i got it to work
23:57.16durcynorionshock: mouseover auto tracking?
23:57.25orionshocknext step :)
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