IRC log for #wowace on 20100820

00:02.57NickenyfikenYeah I know it's not spelled exactly like blizzard, but can you register any .com domain name even if it is really really similar to a company name? Like gogle, goggle etc. Sounds really stupid if it is allowed.
00:04.39bluspacecowyou can
00:04.50bluspacecowunless Blizzard registers them first of course
00:05.25bluspacecowsome people do it even so they can sell it back to the company
00:05.54bluspacecoweg some guy registered www.cocacola-softdrink.com and made a mint from selling it back to coca cola
00:06.29NickenyfikenThat is just plain stupid.
00:07.15arkanesits not, really
00:07.20arkanesthink about it for a while
00:07.20bluspacecowmeh its first come first served really
00:07.49bluspacecowwhat if another company wanted to use bllizard  for a above board purpose
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00:07.57bluspacecowlike  a site on lizzards in BL ?
00:09.18NickenyfikenYeah of course it is OK if there is a company with that name. But I hardly belive that the phishers got a company registered as bllizzard... Or do they?
00:09.32bluspacecowlike it said
00:09.33arkanesyou don't have to be a company to own a .com address
00:09.34bluspacecowi said
00:09.40bluspacecowfirst come first served
00:09.48arkaneswhich is a good thing, because what does that even mean, really
00:10.15bluspacecowit means who ever registers the domain first gets to keep it ... eg cyber squatters
00:10.28arkanesI know what first come first served means :p
00:10.33arkanesI mean what does "being a company" mean
00:10.49bluspacecowthey have .co addresses now >_>
00:10.57arkanesthats a country prefix
00:11.33bluspacecowhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.co ?
00:11.38durcyncolombia
00:11.39arkanes.com actually means "commercial", not "company", and its just distinguish from the other tlds of edu and mil
00:11.48durcynalso, suffix*
00:12.47durcynand honestly, i'm amazed the namespace avoided pollution for as long as it did
00:13.01arkanes.com has always been free for all
00:13.17arkanesand .net nearly as long
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01:00.25orionshockwtf, we have new FP in EPL
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02:23.53LibertineLushi got a quest telling me it's best to party with a few ppl.  when the 2 mobs that need to be killed drop, does the system ensure i get the drop since i need them to return to the quest npc or can the other party members still get the needed drops?
02:25.30WobinLibertineLush: it can differ. Sometimes the quest drop is only gainable by one person at a time
02:25.38Wobinor sometimes it's available to all
02:26.12Wobingenerally, the fewer the mobs you need to kill, the more likely the drop will be group wide
02:26.41LibertineLushWobin: what if the other party members did not talk to the quest npc?  they're just there to help
02:26.44Wobinif the quest is "Fetch me 200 gnoll teeth" it's more likely to be only gainable by one party member, as per normal drops
02:26.45LibertineLushdoes that factor in?
02:26.52Wobinif so, you'll get them all
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02:27.18LibertineLushah ok.  so everything you just said prior to that, assume the other party members also initiated with the same quest npc?
02:27.25LibertineLushassumes*
02:28.28Wobinonly the people on the quest can get the quest items
02:29.14LibertineLushok.  thanks for that.  couldn't google it
02:29.22Wobinif someone in your party is not on the quest, and kills a quest mob, you can loot the quest item from the mob
02:29.53LibertineLushah alright
02:38.31starloncracks.
02:38.41LibertineLushwhips
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03:13.53starlonI keep plugging memory leaks in this addon but the memory consumption doesn't look like it's going down lol
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03:15.07Wobinstarlon: perhaps it's more underlying then
03:15.12starlonmaybe
03:15.20starlonI found some huge ones
03:18.57starlonwell I guess it's gone down some. it's generating about .04mb a second
03:19.06starlonit was worse
03:21.37starlonThis calls for a Red Bull.
03:24.11Yssarilthats why its always best to test for leaks while writing instead of trying to fix them aferwards :)
03:24.37starlonyeah
03:25.27starlonI need to learn these memory profiling functions or something.
03:25.53ShadowedHow are you generating 0.4mb a second....
03:26.03Shadowed0.04*
03:26.12Shadowedthat kind of leak is going to be pretty  obvious or something in an onupdate
03:26.14starlonmousing over a bunch of units in short time
03:35.49starlonhttp://i.imgur.com/8bo4F.png :D
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03:50.49Yssarilstarlon: kinda ugly font don't you think?
03:51.15starlonyep :)
03:51.30Yssarilyou should fix that :P
03:51.46starlonI'll make it configurable
03:51.56starlonfor now it's just this
03:52.24starlonI would be further along with this but I've been spending a lot of time on memory issues.
03:55.49starlonhttp://i.imgur.com/D4S5M.png better? That's without monochrome.
03:56.11Yssarilmuch
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03:56.42Yssarili am not sure why they even have a monochrome option it should be shot imo
03:56.51starlonheh
03:57.55Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r61 / (3 files in 1 directory):
03:57.57Repov2.50 untested alpha: Re-wrote some core functions to try fix a bug with letting whispers through, updated locale, added config, locale update.
03:59.36Funkeh`guess I ultra updated the locale
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04:02.25Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r657 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove badboy_levels config
04:03.33durcynorionshock: ping
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04:16.23Repo10gemcensus: 03Cyprias 041.0.6beta * r26 : Tagged as 1.0.6beta
04:16.25Repo* Added option to ignore cuts you already have in inventory and/or auction.
04:35.40orionshockdurcyn, pong
04:48.08durcynorionshock: IHML tries to use AceLibrary to hook BW2 even if it's not present
04:48.38orionshockdurcyn, IHML isn't one of my addons :)
04:48.51durcynshit, who was it then, i thought you were working on it
04:48.55durcynSOCD, IHML, all rook same
04:49.01durcynAckis: you fucker, get over here
04:49.12orionshocklol
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05:00.23quiescensstop logging on and off repeatedly torhal
05:00.25quiescens):
05:00.44orionshock?
05:00.58orionshockdoes Torhal need a kick and ban or is it netsplit'ing him?
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05:53.44Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r98 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ticket 30 (related to #23) - ItemAuditor is back to counting items in the mailbox, but will subtract items purchased from the AH or COD mail from its item counts.
05:54.18starlonis all the memory allocated within a stack freed once exiting that scope? or does that come along with GC?
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06:28.25Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r102 / (6 files in 2 directories): Fixed reagent costs so that /ia snatch will get the correct prices.
06:28.26RepoConverted the crafting threshold option to allow input instead of a drop down.
06:28.27RepoAdded a new Crafting Rules module to allow the user to set up custom rules based on item names.
06:28.28RepoAdded a menu to allow the user to see what is to be crafted, only what you hae mats for, or view everything so you can see why something isn't to be crafted.
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08:29.51starlonok loadstring is buggy as shit
08:30.58starlonmemperc = memdiff / totaldiff * 100 -- and memperc doesn't get registered in the environment. however memperc = (memdiff / totaldiff * 100) works.
08:32.06starlonit's likely something unrelated in my code that's causing this, but I'll just blame Lua
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08:41.50orionshock....grrr i hate blizzard's API for quests & gossip
08:41.50orionshocklooks like i get to rewrite SOCD yet again....
08:42.39orionshockhave to bring back using localized info like before, but with more magic and less hardecoded shit
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09:48.33[Ammo]Intel CEO: "We need antivirus, can someone buy me McAfee?" Few hours later: "Done." "Great, which version?" "Version ... ?"
09:52.47Kalrothhahah
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10:22.39Megalonrewards koatschen 4 grandpa-of-gaming awards!
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11:19.20Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r40 GDKPd.lua: Version beta-10c:
11:19.22RepoAdded "notify" button that sends whispers to all (outdated-compatible/outdated-incompatible/not-installed) status raid members (toggleable in options).
11:20.05Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-10c * r41 : tagging
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11:25.18Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r42 GDKPd.lua: Version beta-10d:
11:25.20RepoAdded "Import loot system loot threshold" setting to minimum item quality dropdown as requested.
11:25.40Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-10d * r43 : tagging
11:32.27Repo10motdstripper: 03Contiki * r27 meta/description.txt: Fixed typo in description
11:36.57Megalonbnet 2.0 is so awesome
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12:34.22StanzillaI just found the most stupid thing in IE's engine parsing
12:34.57Stanzillait doesn't render css backgrounds if you don't have a space after the url()'s closing bracket..
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13:14.34Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r103 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ticket 31 - Fixed an error in the 'You just made a profit of ...' message
13:15.53Repo10itemauditor: 03AsaAyers * r104 .hgtags: Added tag release 2010-08-20 for changeset 1f410255ebd8
13:16.45koaschtenwhats that addon again that queries the server for quest status and shows you quests you havent done yet?
13:17.53pompykoaschten: everyquest
13:17.59pompy@project everyquest
13:18.00Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/everyquest/. EveryQuest. Game: WoW. kandarz (Manager/Author). Updated: 176 days ago. Tickets: 14/75
13:18.01koaschtenawesome thanks
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13:39.33steevbleh
13:39.37steevonly 41 shards now
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13:41.27steevstill have 5 bosses left, but i highly doubt we will have enough people to do them on HM on monday
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15:19.02Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy * r44 GDKPd.lua:
15:19.04RepoAdded "bid" button to the bidder GUI. It bids bid amount+increment.
15:19.05Repo"Bid" button mentioned above takes the place of the old "Hide" button. The "hide" button is now a classical yellow-on-red X in the top right corner, only shown on mouse over.
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15:23.16Repo10gdkpd: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-10e * r45 : tagging it.
15:23.19Reposeriously, i should get a bigger change so i can close the beta-10 series :/
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16:00.07Repo10gemcensus: 03Cyprias 041.0.7beta * r31 :  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
16:00.09RepoTagged as 1.0.7beta
16:00.11Repo- Print when inspecting set to enabled by default. This may be spammy by default but some users may need the message to know it's working.
16:00.23Repo- 'Include bank inventory' option will gray out if Have Raw Gems or Filter Inventory Gems is disabled.
16:00.24Repo- Fixed German locale string format error.
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18:10.40Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r658 BadBoy.lua: anti-goldspam update
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18:26.46kagarohrmm with GC saying major changes done and just tuning left for classes make my DK sad
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18:29.25durcyntry being a warlock
18:29.37kagarotanking in cata on my dk is soo painful
18:29.52kagaronothing like sitting around for 15s waiting for runes
18:32.46durcyndk tears are so delicious, i wish i could bottle you right now.
18:33.36durcynoh, you can't DG->AMZ->Strangulate->Gnaw->freekill casters anymore, waaah.
18:33.52kagaroi dont pvp on my dk durcyn
18:34.06kagarowow pvp is fail, id rather play cod or something for pvp
18:35.08Nivtanking in cata is fairly painful atm for everyone
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18:35.45kagarosingle target is ok, but any extra ads .. yeah dead healers
18:39.45quiescenscc stuff
18:39.50quiescenslike the olde days!
18:39.51VonhintenHOME`kagaro, "major changes done" really doesn't mean anything to non-wow designers.
18:40.13quiescenswhere everyone wants 3 mages in a party
18:40.43kagarolol i cant even use chains of ice on a runner anymore or sacirifce threat todo so
18:42.09VonhintenHOME`I would guess major changes to them means, implementation of the mechanic itself, since for them, actually going from design to something that works in game, requires a hand off
18:42.47kagarodunno
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18:43.23VonhintenHOME`"tweaks" could make something impossible actually doable... like holding agro
18:44.33kagarobear tank threat seems ok
18:44.49VonhintenHOME`it was quite busted recently
18:44.50kagarojsut based on a 5 man with a friend tanking bear
18:44.56kagaroahh it was 2 patches ago
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18:49.40Megalonbair with me
18:54.57Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): add a little note about DK's being blocked
18:59.29Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.50 * r63 : Tagging as v2.50
19:01.12Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v6.001 * r659 : Tagging as v6.001
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19:48.35Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r99 Broker_HitCrit.lua: HitCrit :
19:48.37Repo- fixed chatframe reporting
19:48.38Repo- fixed FoL (Paladin)
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20:03.43the-golemokie dokie
20:03.53the-golemtime to work on my addon updates ^^
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20:15.21steevFisker: shardcount
20:15.35steevi need an addon that autoreplies to those
20:15.47orionshocksteev, ?
20:16.03steevorionshock: an addon taht auto replies to "how many is taht now?" tells in raid after getting a shadowfrost shard
20:16.21Fisker46
20:16.34Fiskerdrops sucked this reset :(
20:16.38steevFisker: HATE
20:16.44Fiskerbut i got the super simian sphere
20:16.45steevyou're gonna get yours before me :(
20:16.47steevwoot!
20:16.51the-golemorionshock: can you point me to an addon that's a good example of creating subcategories in the options panel?
20:16.55steevi got the shard of contempt the other day
20:17.14the-golemor, can anyone? ^.^
20:17.16VonhintenHOME`leet trinkets
20:17.16steevi've started running heroic mgt for the mount, no real reason to as i don't collect mounts but figured why not
20:17.26orionshockthe-golem, check out the AceGUI / Config Docs, it's in there
20:17.26Fisker:o
20:17.28orionshockreally easy
20:17.35the-golemokiedokie
20:17.37steevsomething to do, and i make a hundred gold or so doing it
20:17.38Fiskeri stopped doing pets and mounts after i got achievements
20:17.40Fiskeratleast the farming
20:18.07Ali1331I can see skywall from the hill north of gadgetzan :s
20:18.21Ali1331pretty long view distance
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20:52.31the-golemorionshock: thanks, I got it to work. Not exactly how I was envisioning it, but I think it works this way
20:52.39the-golemalthough
20:52.49Funkeh`http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
20:53.10Funkeh`63% of steam users using firefox
20:53.14the-golemI renamed a locale string in the lua file, and changed it in the locale file also, but it's still yelling at me like it's not there.
20:55.13hastethe-golem: did you update the TOC and restart your client?
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20:56.36the-golemWhy would I hafta update the TOC? I didn't add any extra files, I just updated a string.
20:57.15hasteI read wrong, seemd like you had renamed the file as well
20:57.27Repo10gemcensus: 03Cyprias 041.0.8beta * r37 : Tagged as 1.0.8beta
20:57.29Repo- Added rightclick dropdown menu to create gems.
20:57.33hastecheck if both files are saved, and that the string is equal
20:58.01the-golemI did do that, at least 5 times. Restarting the client did the trick though, thanks :-)
20:59.53hastethen it sounds like you changed something on the file system level
20:59.58hasteor didn't reload :P
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22:04.24Repo10aspectinspect: 03Auldare * r79 / (2 files in 1 directory): AspectInspect: -
22:04.26Repofixed bug with resize grip
22:05.20the-golemto use borders, must i use backdrop as well?
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22:09.10the-golemnevcairiel: in which file is the Profile options for BT4?
22:09.34Repo10aspectinspect: 03Auldare * r80 / (2 files in 1 directory): AspectInspect: -
22:09.36Repoversion update
22:09.59Repo10aspectinspect: 03Auldare 04v1.07 * r81 : AspectInspect: -
22:10.01RepoFixes to resize grip bug
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22:43.03the-golemponders
22:43.57the-golemWhat's the best way to add "text display" options for an addon
22:45.13the-golemFor example, choose to display faction name, raw numbers, percentage, level,
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23:10.28Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.4d-beta-8-ge857a1b / (3 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
23:10.29Repoe857a1b: uncomment other code, it's changed but untested, should work though
23:10.31Repoce76ead: rework some logic about how quests are handled. go back to using localization cache as primary method and use API as suplementry method.
23:10.32Repo086b5fd: add quest greeting to registered events, even though we hide the frame. account for new core api :IsQuest() to make sure options.lua picks up on repteatable quests.
23:10.34Repo452aea8: change methods in quest scanner to include quest type, daily,weekly,repeatable.
23:10.38orionshockgrrr....
23:11.01orionshockatleast the quest scanning works well, only takes about 30sec if it's all cached and about 1-2mins if it's not
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