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00:10.08 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Core/Prototypes/Boss: |
00:10.09 | Repo | - Updated to use new MPB plugin for health bars. |
00:10.10 | Repo | - Changed type("func") to type(func) to properly check for the type of func. |
00:10.11 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Core/Core: |
00:13.29 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r564 / (16 files in 7 directories): |
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00:13.32 | Repo | - Updated all boss mods that used the old Health Frames to use the new MPB. |
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00:19.03 | orionshock_ | beta realms back? |
00:19.54 | Groktar | don't think so |
00:19.58 | Groktar | i checked a couple minutes ago |
00:20.11 | Groktar | i'm hoping for a patch with more rage >.> |
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00:28.31 | Yssaril | mmo-champions sais there is a new patch |
00:30.29 | pompy | yep |
00:30.48 | pompy | not avail for dld just yet tho |
00:37.20 | p3lim | Guess its available at 11:00 |
00:37.37 | p3lim | Any diffs/changelogs from the new patch yet? |
00:37.58 | Yssaril | p3lim: can't download it yet |
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00:41.40 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Icecrown: |
00:41.41 | Repo | - Using the new MPB for Putricide and LK to mark phase changes. |
00:41.43 | Repo | #RaidWatch_RubySanctum/Halion: |
00:41.44 | Repo | - Same as for Icecrown + trying to fix so the health bar is working in p2 and p3 in the shadow realm. |
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00:47.57 | Shefki | So what do you guys think: http://yfrog.com/2d55jp |
00:52.43 | Yssaril | Evo? |
00:53.10 | Shefki | It's a cell phone. |
00:54.01 | Yssaril | right which one though :P (also looks to shiny for my taste but other than that looks great) |
00:54.24 | Shefki | http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo-sprint?view=1-1&sort=0 |
00:54.48 | Yssaril | kk so i was right with "Evo?" :P |
00:55.31 | Shefki | Ohh I thought you were asking what an Evo was, since I mentioned it in the original posting under the photo. |
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00:56.20 | Yssaril | OHHH (didnt even read the message below the photo) |
00:56.21 | Shefki | Yeah it is a bit shinnier than I would have liked, but it still came out pretty good. |
00:56.54 | Yssaril | where did you get the skin from or did you make it yourself? |
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00:57.11 | Shefki | skinit.com printed it. |
00:57.17 | Shefki | Art is from Blizzard. |
01:01.15 | sylvanaar | ugh wtb beta patch before bedtime |
01:10.23 | Nickenyfiken | Nice Shefki :-) |
01:11.33 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: already 3 hours past bedtime :| |
01:14.18 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah it's 0300 in Swe :-/ |
01:29.34 | harl | same here. that's why i'm gonna catch a few hours of sleep now. |
01:29.48 | harl | gnite.. |
01:33.28 | Shefki | sylvanaar: ping |
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01:35.00 | Shefki | Yssaril: ping |
01:35.05 | Yssaril | png |
01:35.08 | Yssaril | pong |
01:35.31 | Shefki | Your release of your shared media widgets seems to have an issue. |
01:35.31 | Niv | so beta is still down then? |
01:35.40 | Yssaril | Shefki: which would be? |
01:35.47 | Shefki | local AGSMW = LibStub("AceGUISharedMediaWidgets-1.0") |
01:36.03 | Yssaril | and the problem with that? |
01:36.03 | Shefki | In FontWidget.lua is error about Cannot find a library ihnstance.... |
01:36.31 | Niv | so 1.36G, new zones? |
01:38.51 | Yssaril | Shefki: umm that shouldnt be possible because it clearly creates the lib in the prototypes.lua which is loaded before anything else in the widget.xml file |
01:39.24 | Yssaril | niv female worgens (they are that detailed) |
01:39.43 | Niv | heh |
01:39.58 | Niv | It could be music |
01:40.00 | Niv | or mob models |
01:40.02 | Niv | lots of things |
01:40.08 | Yssaril | Shefki: are you loading it standalone or as part of another mod? |
01:40.17 | Shefki | Was prototypes.lua new? |
01:40.23 | Yssaril | yes |
01:40.59 | Shefki | nm then, I just didn't exit the game. |
01:41.08 | Yssaril | :P |
01:41.19 | Shefki | Eww what happened to the textures being previewed in the dropdown? |
01:42.14 | Yssaril | everything still gets previewed in the dropdown |
01:42.21 | Shefki | Not here. |
01:43.29 | Shefki | http://files.shefki.org/ScreenShot_072010_184229.jpeg |
01:44.44 | Shefki | I'm only noticing this stuff because people are complaining that the dropdowns aren't working becuase Prat is shipping with a broken version of your widgetts. |
01:45.19 | Shefki | Which is why authors need to use tag: latest and library authors need to tag. |
01:46.21 | Shefki | Anyway I'll be back later. |
01:49.52 | Yssaril | Shefki: btw shows up perfectly fine on my end |
01:50.14 | Yssaril | (just tested with the release version of AGSMW |
01:50.50 | Nickenyfiken | Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite LDB bar display addon? |
01:51.16 | Yssaril | i use Fortress as bar and YssDrop to hide all launchers :) |
01:51.40 | Yssaril | though fortress doesnt make a bar but rather blocks |
01:52.26 | Nickenyfiken | Ok, I guess Fortress is not for me then hmm. But maybe i should give it a try. |
01:52.42 | Nickenyfiken | Havent tried UssDrop, but i use LauncherMenu. |
01:53.52 | Nickenyfiken | Yssaril: So you have blocks spread out in different places? |
01:53.59 | Yssaril | simmilar in style but YssDrop shows the tooltips of the brokers (also am bias to it cause i wrote it) |
01:54.29 | Yssaril | Nickenyfiken: each broker is its own block you can move it where you want or stick them together to form a bar or whatever you want |
01:55.36 | Nickenyfiken | Ah nice, will test YssDrop. |
01:55.58 | Yssaril | Shefki: fyi Prat has the prototypes file in it and the widget.xml referes to it so people just need to update i think |
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02:03.53 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm I feel silly to be excited about a WoW beta patch. |
02:04.06 | Yssaril | Nickenyfiken: lol |
02:04.24 | Megalon | that's just because there is nothing exciting anymore about wotlk ;) |
02:05.25 | Nickenyfiken | True, but I've been away from WoW since 2008 so i should have a lot to do in wotlk |
02:06.54 | Nickenyfiken | Is InstanceMaps supposed to work with vanilla instances? |
02:09.17 | Yssaril | Nickenyfiken: seams to not really sure what it does though |
02:11.43 | Nickenyfiken | I thought it was gonna let me outmagically show the map of the instance im currently in :-P |
02:12.10 | Yssaril | what does it actually do? |
02:12.15 | Nickenyfiken | Was doing some random vanilla dungeons ony my 52 druid earlier. |
02:12.29 | Nickenyfiken | No idea... |
02:12.30 | orionshock | still no beta realm eh? |
02:12.42 | Nickenyfiken | "Maps. Like, for instances." :-P |
02:12.45 | Yssaril | orionshock: did you DL th patch yet? |
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02:13.56 | pompy | orionshock: 1.36gb patch |
02:14.58 | Arrowmaster | Nickenyfiken: notice the last time it was updated |
02:15.02 | Nickenyfiken | Well, when i played in 2008 i used Cartographer but replaced it with Mapster, Cromulent etc. Now i have no idea what the "best" map addon is :-P |
02:15.15 | Nickenyfiken | Arrowmaster: yeah :-/ |
02:15.16 | Arrowmaster | there isnt one |
02:15.37 | Nickenyfiken | Hehehe :-) |
02:15.43 | Arrowmaster | wrath instances have maps builtin, nobody cares enough to do maps for old instances |
02:17.05 | Nickenyfiken | I see. |
02:17.05 | Megalon | pompy: oh patch already up, kk :> |
02:17.06 | pompy | Megalon: yep :) |
02:17.06 | pompy | im at 43% |
02:17.06 | pompy | lol |
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02:18.51 | Nickenyfiken | 60 new builds hmm, give me changelog :-P |
02:19.56 | Zyn | explodes |
02:20.05 | Zyn | ~10 mins left ;< |
02:20.24 | Zyn | got late to the party due to Alien Swarm |
02:21.38 | Nickenyfiken | Gah, the updater is slower then the download :-P |
02:25.17 | orionshock | grrr... i can't open the beta launcher with the live client open... |
02:25.24 | orionshock | >.> time to fudge it |
02:29.53 | Zyn | actually, I believe you Nickenyfiken ... this IS taking a long time |
02:30.09 | Zyn | writing a gazillion files, taking all day |
02:31.06 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah |
02:31.16 | Nickenyfiken | Right now it is writing a ton of .skin files. |
02:32.01 | Zyn | and "This service is not available" when I wanna login on the beta forums ò_ó |
02:33.15 | Niv | servers are still down |
02:34.10 | Nickenyfiken | Nothing written in Interface\AddOns so far. |
02:34.14 | Zyn | patch completed |
02:34.48 | Nickenyfiken | You got the game on a SSD or something? |
02:35.11 | Zyn | no, a crappy ol' SATA drive |
02:37.29 | Nickenyfiken | oh |
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02:48.57 | Repo | 10crybaby: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r50 : Tagging as 3.3.5 |
02:51.57 | Repo | 10broker_professions: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r42 : Tagging as 3.3.5 |
02:52.56 | Nickenyfiken | Oh they removed/combined all patch-x.mpq files in Data folder. |
02:53.03 | Nickenyfiken | Thats why it took so long to patch. |
02:53.25 | kagaro | my patch download is ging slow as molasses |
02:53.34 | Gnarfoz | Nickenyfiken: it's a cumulative patch |
02:53.57 | Gnarfoz | (that's another reason it's so fat) |
02:54.07 | Yssaril | kagaro: how fast is yours atm i am between 50-100KB/s |
02:54.39 | kagaro | 150 - 300k |
02:54.47 | Yssaril | cry |
02:54.54 | Nickenyfiken | Gnarfoz: yeah. |
02:55.13 | kagaro | slower than normal |
02:56.52 | kagaro | its the upstream thats killing me |
02:59.01 | Repo | 10waitlist: 03durcyn * r50 Waitlist.lua: |
02:59.03 | Repo | fix ticket #1. don't get any idea about me actually checking tickets or anything now. |
02:59.35 | Repo | 10waitlist: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r51 : Tagging as 3.3.5 |
02:59.46 | durcyn | repo's the only person who talks to me. |
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03:02.15 | kagaro | well thats better i stopped and restrated the download and now getting 1.2MB/s |
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03:03.38 | kagaro | well boo that was a quick burst of speed and dropped back down the hole again |
03:07.31 | Megalon | mhm |
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03:23.33 | pompy | beta servers shoud be up |
03:23.44 | Repo | 10massmailer: 03Necramar * r71 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
03:23.45 | pompy | http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/26137186454-maintenance-completed-7-20-2010.html |
03:23.46 | Repo | -- Added an option to automatically clear the message box when you send a mail. |
03:23.47 | Repo | -- Minor performance enhancements |
03:23.49 | Repo | -- Minor bug fixes |
03:24.39 | Repo | 10massmailer: 03Necramar 04Beta_2.1.1 * r72 : |
03:24.41 | Repo | -- Added an option to automatically clear the sent message on mail send |
03:24.42 | Repo | -- Minor performance enhancements |
03:24.44 | Repo | -- Minor bug fixes |
03:24.47 | Zyn | but login is still down |
03:25.43 | Yssaril | now all they need to do is sut down the server again and use its bandwidth to distribute the patch to us |
03:26.17 | DesertDwarf | Beta isn't torrent-based like live stuff? |
03:26.25 | Yssaril | it is |
03:26.49 | Yssaril | but still if they open up their pipe more than people get it faster :P |
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03:31.06 | koaschten | what the flying f*ck .... 5:30am and someone is calling me and hanging up after 2 rings?! and it's a pay service number if i call back? dirty scammers |
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03:34.55 | Xinhuan | alien swarm's pretty cool! |
03:35.39 | DesertDwarf | On Steam? My brother just told me it's free right now. He was going to try it and let me know what he thought. |
03:36.26 | Megalon | alien swarm is nice yea :> |
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03:39.15 | Zyn | Alien Swarm is cool, and tried Insane difficulty earlier |
03:39.21 | Zyn | first enemy and I was dead |
03:39.22 | Zyn | ":|" |
03:40.36 | Megalon | only play hard/insane |
03:41.07 | Megalon | at least you can't waltz everything solo there |
03:41.32 | Zyn | some people think they can |
03:41.36 | Megalon | and you just swim in xp :> |
03:41.55 | Zyn | random guy joins, and runs off thinking he's Bruce Willis or something |
03:41.57 | Megalon | hehe, on insane you really have to stay together |
03:42.03 | Megalon | and need a medic that is on its toes |
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03:58.09 | Repo | 24c719f: Alerts: Fix leaked global. Any messages with localized "YOU" will no longer be |
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04:10.56 | orionshock | interesting: "Soul Shards have been removed from the game as items" |
04:11.14 | Prancy | thats for cata right? |
04:11.15 | Cyprias | Waiting for files to close.... Waiting for files to close.... Waiting for files to close.... bah |
04:11.27 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah in Cata |
04:11.32 | Nickenyfiken | Servers still down :-( |
04:11.50 | pompy | jus login servers! |
04:11.53 | Prancy | all the ones we play on at least right? |
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04:39.23 | Groktar | beta wru |
04:39.40 | Zyn | gives the login servers a slap |
04:39.45 | Mirrormn | it's hiding |
04:39.54 | Mirrormn | under the staircase maybe? |
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04:40.19 | Groktar | hears Zyn h4x3d the login server |
04:40.35 | Chaoslux | Wtb mah data minors |
04:43.39 | pompy | lol, http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/26227722686-realm-really-up.html |
04:45.55 | Nickenyfiken | lol? |
04:46.25 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): touch for repackage, library updates, etc |
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04:49.52 | Zyn | I'll get it back on its tracks |
04:50.41 | Zyn | grabs some audio cables and hotwires them into the ethernet-port, and plays metal as loud as possible |
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04:58.34 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn 04$1 * r52 : Tagging as 3.3.5 |
04:58.41 | durcyn | shit, script broke |
04:59.54 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r53 : Tagging as 3.3.5 |
05:00.42 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
05:00.47 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn 04$1 * r54 : clean up bad tag |
05:00.57 | Nickenyfiken | Haven't played that game durcyn :-/ |
05:01.13 | durcyn | it was one of the best RTSes ever made |
05:01.35 | Nickenyfiken | ;-) |
05:01.51 | durcyn | you'd have these small groups of dwarves throwing grenades at undead hordes, and suddenly something would pop up behind you and start picking them off one by one |
05:01.55 | Nickenyfiken | Gonna install it anyway, sounds like a lot of fun :-) |
05:02.05 | durcyn | but during all of this there's no hectic music, just a calm voice saying "casualty" |
05:02.20 | durcyn | best ambiance ever. |
05:02.25 | Nickenyfiken | Haha |
05:04.00 | Nickenyfiken | rofl @ mass_casualties.wav |
05:04.28 | Nickenyfiken | I think I could fall asleep to this. |
05:04.32 | durcyn | unfortunately it's still under copyright, so that's just vputz with a microphone |
05:04.48 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah but still :-) |
05:04.55 | durcyn | i had to dig up my old myth CD and extract the audio |
05:04.57 | Nickenyfiken | Did he try to be as close to the game or? |
05:05.03 | durcyn | it's pretty close |
05:06.45 | Nickenyfiken | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000 |
05:07.55 | Nickenyfiken | Important ;-) |
05:08.37 | Megalon | 11m20 to patch :c |
05:08.56 | Megalon | and it freed up 10gb+ hooray! |
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05:09.46 | asmodai | Ye gods |
05:09.55 | asmodai | it's not a small patch :| |
05:10.20 | Zyn | "The server is currently busy" :< |
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05:10.50 | asmodai | Funny thing is that the name is not a x-to-y patch |
05:11.06 | asmodai | Megalon: That's good to hear. |
05:11.06 | Megalon | it is a all-in-one patch |
05:11.20 | Megalon | so you can delete the old ones of you keep patches :x |
05:11.28 | asmodai | Megalon: I just started mine and I was like, heuh, only 11% fetched yet? *click* wow, 1.3 GB |
05:11.35 | asmodai | Megalon: Ah, that was my next question :) |
05:11.42 | Megalon | login server busy! |
05:11.51 | Nickenyfiken | Mmm busy :-/ |
05:11.58 | asmodai | Megalon: Since I kept them as I would replace this machine soon and might need to repatch. |
05:12.13 | asmodai | That's 3GB of old patches going bye bye |
05:12.50 | pompy | oh here you go guys |
05:12.51 | pompy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000 |
05:13.10 | pompy | Nickenyfiken posted that b4 |
05:14.04 | asmodai | I wonder if that applies to EU as well -- I guess |
05:14.19 | Megalon | yes |
05:14.19 | Nickenyfiken | Well it is not working for me... |
05:14.20 | Megalon | it does |
05:14.27 | Nickenyfiken | Im on EU |
05:14.39 | asmodai | Megalon: Yeah, missed the German reference |
05:17.09 | asmodai | Nickenyfiken: Ehrm, servers are in maintenance until 11:00 |
05:17.53 | Nickenyfiken | So the logon server used is still the live one in EU? |
05:17.56 | Nickenyfiken | Confusing. |
05:18.36 | pompy | nice it worked for me |
05:19.06 | Nickenyfiken | I mean the realmlist is set to public-beta.logon.battle.net, the same as for US. |
05:19.44 | asmodai | makes a difference: |
05:19.49 | asmodai | public-beta.logon.battle.net. 42214 IN A 12.129.236.252 |
05:19.53 | asmodai | public-test.logon.battle.net. 86400 IN A 12.129.236.251 |
05:20.12 | Zyn | instant "You have been disconnected from the server" when logging in from EU |
05:20.14 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ ! |
05:21.18 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah but they never said we should change the set realmlist, only set portal. |
05:21.43 | asmodai | I know -- just pointing out that you will connect to different IPs if you do |
05:21.51 | Zyn | "This service is not available" |
05:21.58 | asmodai | It's maintenance anyway |
05:22.35 | Nickenyfiken | public-test.logon.battle.net is for PTR? |
05:23.52 | asmodai | I guess so. |
05:24.01 | Nickenyfiken | Anyway, funny how they can make such a mistake. Maybe they wan't less load on the server for a couple of days :-P |
05:24.39 | durcyn | apparently there's a bug with worgen faces too, every single person is busy making terrible "my worgen has no nose, how does he smell, terrible, etc etc" jokes |
05:27.55 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
05:29.10 | Shefki | Yssaril: The current release version of Prat has the version of your widgets that has the number issue in it. |
05:29.37 | Shefki | Yssaril: That's what people were complaining about, the error I got was when I installed your release version in order to see if it fixed the problem and I didn't exit wow figuring you'd done minor changes. |
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05:38.36 | Zyn | best part ... public-beta.logon.battle.net returns it can't be reached nor pinged |
05:38.58 | asmodai | Blizzard has disallowed ICMP ping for a looong time now. |
05:39.09 | sbu | morning |
05:39.17 | sbu | Zyn: telnet port 1119 |
05:39.21 | sbu | (iirc) |
05:39.33 | sbu | 1.3gb, wtf did they do |
05:39.40 | asmodai | sbu: EVERYTHINK! |
05:39.50 | Zyn | whatever I try, "The login server is busy" ;< |
05:39.53 | DesertDwarf | <PROTECTED> |
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05:40.06 | sbu | login server busy AGAIN? *sigh* :( |
05:40.09 | DesertDwarf | sbu: This supercedes all the old patches. |
05:40.12 | sbu | so we are going to get this after each patch now |
05:40.16 | sbu | i see |
05:40.36 | durcyn | um |
05:40.44 | DesertDwarf | They also rolled in some 3.3.5 live changes like Real ID. |
05:40.46 | sbu | oh battle.net in there |
05:40.56 | sbu | so i can finally chat with live realms? |
05:41.27 | Shefki | sbu: Unlikely, they hadn't wiped the patch set since alpha started. |
05:41.28 | pompy | sbu: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000 try that |
05:41.29 | Zyn | I wonder if my account is completely fucked |
05:41.34 | Zyn | US maintenance = can't login |
05:41.41 | Zyn | EU maintenane = can't login |
05:41.46 | Zyn | something else = can't login |
05:41.50 | DesertDwarf | sbu: I dunno. I'm not a tester and I haven't seen anybody on yet that mentions if they can do that. |
05:41.51 | Shefki | sbu: This probably resets the patch set so that our hard drives have less old crap sitting around on them. |
05:41.54 | sbu | pompy: still patching |
05:42.01 | asmodai | Zyn: try logging into battle.net website? |
05:42.04 | Zyn | can't |
05:42.10 | sbu | uh... |
05:42.12 | Zyn | "The service is unavailable" |
05:42.16 | asmodai | Guess they went down for maintenance too then. |
05:42.18 | DesertDwarf | Shefki: I'm told this update is a complete one, not a roll-up. |
05:42.41 | sbu | 500kb/s download rate.... |
05:42.54 | Shefki | DesertDwarf: If it's complete shouldn't that get rid of the 6 patch.MPQs we've got? |
05:43.30 | asmodai | Yes. |
05:43.34 | Nickenyfiken | All patch-x.mpq files have been merged to only two |
05:43.47 | Nickenyfiken | patch-2.mpq and patch.mpq |
05:43.51 | asmodai | Shefki: That's what Megalon said at least |
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05:44.32 | sbu | bah netlimiter, windows 7 is not supported :p |
05:44.35 | Shefki | sbu: Generally they don't have a way of removing files when they patch. They simply keep adding a new patch.MPQ every major patch and add more crap to it. |
05:44.52 | Shefki | So if textures or other large files are reworked, then you'll end up with the old copy + new copies on your HD. |
05:44.59 | pompy | http://i27.tinypic.com/4fwf3q.jpg bah that editbox texture is always showing |
05:45.23 | Shefki | For patching live copies of the game this isn't a huge issue because they don't tend to rework textures they added in a patch. |
05:46.00 | Shefki | What they can do however, is wipe out the patch set and give you a new patch set with only current copies. |
05:46.13 | Shefki | Which is what it appears that they are doing. |
05:46.17 | asmodai | Shefki: Got to look cooking patches |
05:46.21 | asmodai | s/look/love/ |
05:46.59 | Megalon | at least blizzards system also works after a fuckton of patches |
05:47.27 | Shefki | Megalon: I don't think it's a particularly good system to be honest. |
05:47.58 | asmodai | Shefki: But wouldn't a full xdelta generate as much binary patch data in this case as simply redownloading the new patchset? |
05:48.01 | Shefki | It's rather wasteful of space. |
05:48.24 | pompy | this patch knocked off 10 gigs of the beta folder |
05:48.35 | Shefki | asmodai: I'm not really concerned about how big the download is. |
05:48.43 | Shefki | I'm more conerned by how big the data on my HD is. |
05:49.03 | asmodai | Shefki: *nod* |
05:49.08 | Shefki | With a live install the only time they remove data is at an expansion. |
05:49.10 | Megalon | 10gb less after that patch ;x |
05:49.18 | Shefki | There are dead files in the live install. |
05:49.26 | Shefki | seems silly not to have a way to remove files. |
05:49.28 | asmodai | Shefki: Reminds me of http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1199353-software-engineering-file-formats-build-processes-packaging.html |
05:49.32 | pompy | t was 36gigs b4 todays patch , and now its 25.5g |
05:49.44 | Fisker | OMG THEY STOLE YOUR BETA |
05:49.47 | Fisker | yes it is sbu |
05:49.48 | Fisker | l2p |
05:49.52 | sbu | heh? |
05:49.56 | asmodai | Fisker: At least we *have* a beta. :P |
05:50.03 | sbu | asmodai: he also has beta |
05:50.07 | asmodai | Since when? |
05:50.10 | Fisker | netlimiter supports windows 7 |
05:50.18 | Fisker | since forever asmodai |
05:50.22 | Fisker | i was in the F&F |
05:50.30 | asmodai | Fisker: You're not worthy! |
05:50.32 | Shefki | From a paranoid point of view always adding is probably really safe, but it seems ridiculously wasteful of users hard drive space. |
05:50.48 | Fisker | QQ? |
05:50.50 | asmodai | Shefki: Disk space is cheap ;) |
05:51.07 | Shefki | asmodai: As a SVN developer I used to buy into that mantra. |
05:51.24 | Groktar | keke @ warrior version of consecrate |
05:51.25 | Megalon | that's weird Fisker |
05:51.26 | Shefki | I learned later that the mantra is BS. |
05:51.50 | Shefki | Disk space is cheap but that doesn't mean you should be wasteful of it. |
05:51.52 | Megalon | because you have neither friends, nor family that would acknowledge being akin to you |
05:52.08 | asmodai | Shefki: True. |
05:52.09 | Groktar | too bad i can only have one thunderstruck spot at a time :( |
05:52.12 | Fisker | or maybe i do Megalon |
05:52.28 | Zyn | Fisker gonna fisk |
05:52.28 | Jinivus|atWork | dances |
05:52.32 | Shefki | asmodai: SVN makes the huge assumption that keeping a plain text copy of the item in the working copy is a-ok. |
05:52.41 | Shefki | The argument is "Hey diskspace is cheap" |
05:52.41 | asmodai | Shefki: Hailing from the glorious age of the MSX, ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64 and such machines I know all about squeezing the last bits and bytes out of things :) |
05:52.47 | Megalon | dick Fisker |
05:53.02 | Shefki | That's great until you have someone trying to work with a multi-gig file under version control. |
05:53.05 | Fisker | suck it Megalon |
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05:53.08 | Fisker | *unzips* |
05:53.38 | Megalon | suck what? nothing there |
05:53.55 | Fisker | you said so yourself that there was |
05:53.59 | bluspacecow | ;) |
05:54.03 | bluspacecow | lolz |
05:54.14 | Megalon | said what |
05:54.17 | Megalon | i said kill yourself |
05:54.19 | Fisker | your mom |
05:54.19 | asmodai | Shefki: multi-gig file? XML? |
05:54.20 | Megalon | nothing more |
05:54.35 | asmodai | Megalon: Private dick Fisker? or just dick? ;) |
05:54.59 | Megalon | i don't care if he suicides in private |
05:55.02 | Shefki | asmodai: Actually, I believe some of the big complainers were people that were putting large graphic files in SVN. |
05:55.03 | Megalon | as long as he does |
05:55.15 | Megalon | but it will be more cheerful if it'd be streamed of course |
05:55.30 | Shefki | And before you say "Why would you do that." |
05:55.53 | asmodai | Shefki: But SVN was, from the getgo, always advertised as being insufficient for binary data. |
05:55.54 | Shefki | SVN handles binary files just fine. Sure the built in diff tool isn't useful but having versions for that type of file is useful. |
05:56.00 | Shefki | asmodai: No it wasn't. |
05:56.05 | Shefki | Quite the opposite. |
05:56.13 | Shefki | it handles binary data perfectly file. |
05:56.23 | Shefki | It even does xdeltas on them. |
05:56.28 | asmodai | That's odd, because I could remember the advise to always be to not store binary data in it. |
05:56.40 | asmodai | would have to ask sussman about it again |
05:56.41 | Shefki | No the advise is not to store generated data. |
05:56.55 | asmodai | is to not store? |
05:57.20 | Shefki | Say you have a file that is produced by a program from some other file. |
05:57.24 | Shefki | You shouldn't put that in SVN. |
05:57.26 | asmodai | Yeah I know. |
05:57.32 | Shefki | You should put the file that produces it in SVN. |
05:57.36 | asmodai | You only rack up deltas. |
05:57.59 | Shefki | But there are binary files that don't have source files. |
05:58.10 | Shefki | And you're perfectly right in putting them in SVN. |
05:58.21 | asmodai | I wonder if my advise came from much earlier SVN time. |
05:58.32 | asmodai | Shefki: you used SVN during the 0.x releases as well? |
05:58.47 | Shefki | Ohh yes. |
05:59.00 | Shefki | I have an 8810 shirt. |
05:59.04 | asmodai | lol |
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05:59.26 | asmodai | Was that the selfhosting revision? |
05:59.32 | Shefki | 1.0 rev |
05:59.36 | asmodai | Ah |
05:59.54 | Shefki | Only devs have them that were on the project pre-1.0 |
06:01.25 | asmodai | Didn't know you were a svn dev. |
06:01.55 | asmodai | I talked a lot on the svn dev channel with sussman, kfogel, and the others |
06:02.30 | Nickenyfiken | "Those experiencing the "Login server is busy" error should theoretically be able to login in eventually, but it's possible something will prevent those with this message to not be able to login." hahahahaha :-P |
06:02.55 | durcyn | or they could fix their realmlist and purge their dns caches like rational sane human beings |
06:03.40 | bluspacecow | >_> |
06:03.43 | bluspacecow | wow players ? rational ? |
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06:18.12 | Groktar | i didn't have to purge my dns cache |
06:18.44 | Shefki | I don't really understand why people think purging dns cache is useful for wow anyway. |
06:18.56 | Shefki | WoW doesn't use DNS except for the initial login server which almost never changes. |
06:19.35 | Shefki | Wow has an internal system for giving you the ip address of a realm you want to connect to. |
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06:20.18 | Shefki | Whenever you connect to wow it retrieves a list of realms and their ids. |
06:20.31 | durcyn | uh, this beta push changed the dns for the login server. |
06:20.38 | durcyn | QED, |
06:20.42 | Shefki | Then you you go to connect to a specific realm it requests the ip address of the id of the realm and the login server gives it to you. |
06:20.47 | Kalroth | lol |
06:21.37 | Shefki | durcyn: I thought it changed the hostname entirely? |
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06:22.05 | durcyn | my understanding is that they changed the cname for logon-test to the former address of logon-beta |
06:23.02 | durcyn | i have no proof of this on hand, though |
06:23.20 | durcyn | never really felt the need to make note of what said cnames resolved to |
06:24.19 | Shefki | Holy crap battle.net has a ridiculous ttl |
06:24.38 | Shefki | Ohh nm, that's reasonable. |
06:24.45 | Shefki | I was thinking that was one week, it's one dayy. |
06:25.08 | Shefki | Unless someone was playing right until they took servers down the cache should be expired anyway. |
06:26.07 | durcyn | not all caching servers honor TTLs these days, but fair point |
06:26.27 | durcyn | anyway i don't see any fault in including that in a list of debugging steps |
06:26.50 | Shefki | In the big scheme of things though it really doesn't do much for WoW generally. |
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06:27.01 | durcyn | I'm not disputing that |
06:27.03 | Shefki | In this case it might help. |
06:27.28 | Shefki | But I see people recommending that to people all the time. |
06:27.36 | Shefki | Not just in this case. |
06:27.52 | Fisker | Shefki |
06:27.53 | Fisker | durcyn |
06:27.55 | Fisker | bitches. |
06:27.56 | Fisker | that is all |
06:27.57 | durcyn | Fisker |
06:28.01 | durcyn | you're a nice guy |
06:28.05 | Fisker | no. |
06:28.05 | durcyn | I like you. |
06:28.08 | Fisker | no. |
06:28.19 | Shefki | Fisker, go die in a fire or something. :P |
06:28.19 | durcyn | will you be my Real ID friend? |
06:28.37 | Fisker | no. |
06:28.41 | Fisker | i won't Shefki |
06:28.45 | Shefki | Yet another thing you fail at. |
06:30.07 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: ping |
06:30.20 | Fisker | Gnarfoz raep |
06:30.30 | Shefki | Helps if you spell it right. |
06:32.00 | bluspacecow | fisker should change his name to frisker |
06:32.34 | Fisker | i wish |
06:32.39 | Fisker | Shefki i did spell it right |
06:32.50 | Shefki | Did not. |
06:33.05 | Fisker | i did |
06:33.34 | Shefki | Incorrect. |
06:34.00 | Fisker | Incorrect. |
06:34.39 | Torhal | gives Fisker a Nimbus. |
06:34.51 | Fisker | i wish |
06:35.51 | Shefki | shows fisker how to use rot13. |
06:36.07 | Fisker | knows how to use rot13 |
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06:41.35 | Adirelle | can't seen any damn difference between 12539 and 12479 on mmo-champ |
06:42.27 | Fisker | old |
06:43.00 | Chaoslux | Wtb Diffs like he always do on ptr patches, even if its a huge one :< |
06:44.25 | Megalon | double rot13's Fisker |
06:45.24 | Elkano | I extracted the old framexml, so once I have patched I could diff with the new at least |
06:45.50 | Elkano | btw, Adirelle, I dropped you a ticket ^^ |
06:46.14 | sylvanaar | Shefki: do i need to rebuild prat or something? |
06:46.35 | Torhal | drops a ticket on Fisker "it dun werk" |
06:46.52 | sylvanaar | when does Fisker sleep? |
06:47.48 | Adirelle | Elkano, seen that, was quite busy yesterday |
06:48.24 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Wait. |
06:48.32 | Shefki | sylvanaar: his widgets are still screwed up. |
06:48.37 | sylvanaar | oh ok |
06:48.39 | Fisker | Shefkimen |
06:48.41 | sylvanaar | i can wait |
06:48.44 | Shefki | The dropdown list isn't previewing textures. |
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06:48.48 | Shefki | He says it's fixed but it isn't. |
06:49.05 | Shefki | I'm debugging it now. |
06:49.08 | sylvanaar | yay beta patch, anyone know whats in it |
06:49.19 | Shefki | Female Worgen supposedly. |
06:49.26 | sylvanaar | nice |
06:49.33 | Shefki | RealID |
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06:49.42 | sylvanaar | no |
06:49.43 | sylvanaar | really? |
06:49.44 | Shefki | and other crap that was in Live. |
06:49.49 | sylvanaar | hahahaha |
06:50.00 | Shefki | They've pulled in the stuff on Live that was in beta. |
06:50.03 | sylvanaar | ok, they need to enable addons soon then |
06:50.05 | Shefki | wasn't* |
06:50.12 | Shefki | Why? |
06:50.29 | sylvanaar | because i need clique |
06:50.33 | Yssaril | Shefki: yea idk they show up fine for me |
06:50.42 | Shefki | Yssaril: Well this is what I can tell you. |
06:50.48 | Shefki | I added a print to ToggleDrop() |
06:51.01 | Shefki | And it's showing the texture path as being set to just the name of the texture. |
06:51.12 | Shefki | You sure you don't have some uncommitted local change? |
06:51.34 | Shefki | Looks like it's getting them from the self.list[k] |
06:51.35 | Yssaril | Shefki: i tried it with the live version and i dont see how that could even happen |
06:51.51 | Shefki | [23:47:52] loop: Striped Striped Striped |
06:51.58 | Shefki | print('loop:',k,self.list[k],statusbar) |
06:52.07 | sylvanaar | anyone have a direct download for the ptr patch? |
06:52.25 | Shefki | ^ Added between the statusbar = line and the SetTexture line in the ToggleDrop() function. |
06:52.47 | Yssaril | Shefki: which addon are you testing with? |
06:52.52 | Shefki | PB4 |
06:53.04 | Yssaril | is it happening in any other addon? |
06:53.33 | Yssaril | check omen if you have it |
06:54.04 | Shefki | Hmm it's working with Omen and Quartz. |
06:54.13 | Shefki | But I don't see what we're doing that would have anything to do with this. |
06:54.19 | Yssaril | alright how are you setting your list in pitbull? |
06:55.40 | Shefki | Found the problem, however this used to work fine. |
06:55.53 | Yssaril | what was the problem? |
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06:56.03 | Shefki | t[k] = k |
06:56.19 | Yssaril | hmm that should have never worked 9i think) |
06:56.33 | Shefki | It did. :) |
06:56.46 | Shefki | Maybe you just ignored the value before. |
06:56.51 | Shefki | Ohh hang on. |
06:56.59 | Shefki | We don't store the texture path. |
06:57.06 | Shefki | We just store the texture name. |
06:57.12 | Shefki | So our usage is right. |
06:57.33 | Shefki | You really shouldn't be using the keys as the texture. |
06:57.47 | Shefki | or rather I mean the values. |
06:58.18 | Shefki | And addons probably shouldn't be storing the texture path. |
06:58.18 | Yssaril | Shefki: hmm i could always pull the path from LSM |
06:58.27 | Shefki | Kinda defeats the point of LSM. |
06:58.44 | Yssaril | Shefki: right now you can just toss Media:HashTable("font") at the widget and it accepts it |
06:59.16 | Shefki | We expect our statusbar to be a name of a LSM statusbar texture. |
06:59.23 | Shefki | The stored key. |
06:59.52 | Shefki | So we do: for k in pairs(LibSharedMedia:HashTable("statusbar")) do t[k] = k end return t |
07:00.56 | Yssaril | you create a table and then toss it at the widget? |
07:01.02 | Shefki | Yes. |
07:01.14 | Yssaril | don't just toss Media:HashTable("font") directly |
07:01.19 | Shefki | Hang on. |
07:02.49 | Shefki | I don't know why we were doing what we were doing. |
07:02.53 | Shefki | The key is what is set anyway. |
07:03.18 | Yssaril | exactly |
07:03.33 | Yssaril | its been that way since May last year :) |
07:04.08 | Shefki | Probably just didn't have a newer version of your widgets so never noticed it. |
07:04.29 | Yssaril | hehe |
07:07.19 | Yssaril | Shefki: i actually want to keep using the name, path structure cause then you could use it to create a dropdown for stuff that isn't in LSM :P |
07:08.39 | Shefki | Ahh I see why we were doing that. |
07:09.13 | Shefki | if k == default then t[k] = ("%s (Default)"):format(k) else t[k] = k end |
07:09.18 | Yssaril | not that anyone is doing that right now or ever will but its there (could be for some sort of icon selection list i guess) |
07:09.59 | Yssaril | Shefki: still shouldn't matter options wise though right? |
07:10.22 | Shefki | I don't think it ever actually worked to display (Default) |
07:10.28 | Shefki | But that's how we got that code. |
07:10.28 | Yssaril | hehe |
07:10.39 | Shefki | Because it was just copied and pasted to where I found the other code. |
07:10.48 | Shefki | And had the default stuff removed for the default editor. |
07:11.40 | Yssaril | sylvanaar: yea could you repackage prat? (there was a bug in the AceGUI SharedMedia widgets last time you did) |
07:11.51 | sylvanaar | sure |
07:12.05 | sylvanaar | is it fixed now |
07:12.17 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Yeah it's fine. |
07:12.25 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Turns out my issue was a ckknight bug. |
07:12.49 | Yssaril | sylvanaar: was fixed a while ago actually :) |
07:13.20 | Torhal | Shefki: Someone should really patch ckknight, then. |
07:13.38 | Shefki | Yeah I just noticed it today becasue people were complaining about the error it was causing when they were trying to select textures in PB4 and someone said it only happened when they had Prat installed. |
07:13.52 | Shadowed | oh Shefki, has anyone complained about halion corpsomething auras? |
07:14.13 | Shefki | Not that I've seen, what do you mean by that? |
07:14.28 | Shadowed | Dunno, just had someone report that his debuff wasn't showing up, but I'm pretty sure it's just user error |
07:14.33 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r522 Prat-3.0.toc: |
07:14.33 | Repo | touch to repackage to pick up AceGUI SharedMedia widgets fix |
07:14.41 | Shefki | Shadowed: I haven't seen any complaints about that. |
07:14.45 | Shadowed | user error it is |
07:14.47 | Shefki | Shadowed: It's also possible it was a blizzard side bug. |
07:14.53 | Shadowed | close enough! |
07:14.58 | Shefki | Shadowed: I've seen auras bug out many times. |
07:15.04 | Shefki | My favorite is the double aura bug. |
07:15.15 | Shefki | Where every single aura someone has is returned twice. |
07:15.15 | Shadowed | I don't think I've ever had that one |
07:15.24 | Shefki | It's pretty rare. |
07:15.30 | Shefki | But I've seen it a handful of times. |
07:15.31 | Yssaril | Shadowed: you know secure frame stuff why doesnt http://paste.wowace.com/2231/ work? (only ever creates one child (UnitButton) but doesnt anchor it to anything) |
07:15.40 | Shefki | And verified that UnitAura() is returning them like that. |
07:16.18 | Shefki | Yssaril: What isn't working? |
07:16.32 | Shadowed | probably cause you set groupFilter to "" |
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07:16.38 | Shadowed | try setting it to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 |
07:16.48 | Shefki | Or just don't set it. |
07:16.52 | Shadowed | or that |
07:17.25 | Shadowed | Also unless you need to allow hooking of your functions, there is no reason to delay secure frame creation till PLAYER_LOGIN |
07:17.30 | Shadowed | you can do it at ADDON_LOADED fine |
07:18.42 | Yssaril | whoot not setting it works :) |
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07:20.21 | Yssaril | Shadowed: i have that in my addon template that way when i make a new addon in case i need PlayerLogin (havent really decedid what to do yet with the addon so i'll move the init stuff to AL if i can later) |
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07:20.43 | Shadowed | ah |
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07:21.48 | Yssaril | if my idea for this one works out it could be very interesting :) |
07:22.30 | Yssaril | got to learn to crawl before i can run though (first time really dealing with the dynamic secure stuff) |
07:25.32 | Repo | 10amc: 03S1nless * r87 AtlasMajorCities.toc: Tagging as v1.5.2 |
07:25.58 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta10-1-g0816482 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix our usage of the SharedMedia widgets so the previews actually show. |
07:26.15 | Yssaril | Shefki: did you fix all of them? |
07:26.22 | Shefki | Yes. |
07:26.27 | Yssaril | woot :) |
07:26.34 | Shadowed | what broke? |
07:26.36 | Shefki | (4 files in 2 directories) |
07:26.44 | Repo | 10amc: 03S1nless 04v.1.5.2 * r88 : Tagging as v.1.5.2 |
07:26.45 | Yssaril | Shadowed: cosmetic fix :) |
07:26.53 | Shefki | Shadowed: ckknight was using the SharedMedia widgets wrong, so they broke. |
07:26.57 | Shadowed | oh |
07:27.07 | Shadowed | ... question |
07:27.11 | Shadowed | how could he possibly use them wrong |
07:27.19 | Shefki | Scroll up. |
07:27.40 | Yssaril | not reading the documentation and way back in the beginning they worked a little bit different |
07:28.15 | asmodai | yawns |
07:29.01 | Shadowed | oh |
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07:29.29 | Shefki | Shadowed: There was a certain logic to it, but it got duplicated into lots of places from copy and paste. |
07:29.45 | Shefki | Not that the intent of the logic ever actually worked. |
07:30.30 | Yssaril | Shefki: how do you like the new widgets btw? |
07:30.55 | sbu | baaaah |
07:30.57 | sbu | login server busy |
07:31.08 | Shefki | Looks fine to me. |
07:31.13 | Yssaril | sbu did you do http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000? |
07:31.19 | sbu | yea |
07:31.41 | Shefki | sylvanaar: You need to tag, your release version is the one with the broken libs sadly. |
07:32.26 | Shefki | sylvanaar: No idea if you're ready for that. But you could just tag another release from your old tag and get the needed effect if you're not ready for your alpha code to be a release. |
07:33.10 | Shefki | svn cp svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/{tags/3.3.22,tags/3.3.23} |
07:33.39 | Shefki | Assuming bash (don't think that works in other shells) |
07:35.25 | sbu | okay working now |
07:36.20 | sbu | mh, so guild ui is still disabled :p |
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07:40.17 | sbu | so now you have 38 talent points at level 80 |
07:40.47 | Megalon | oh, beta now has realid friends, hooray! |
07:41.20 | sbu | but i cant see my "live" realid friends ;) |
07:41.37 | Shefki | sbu: Different account. |
07:41.39 | Fisker | old Megalon |
07:41.46 | sbu | Shefki: oh, right |
07:41.50 | Megalon | yes i am Fisker |
07:41.52 | sbu | Shefki: but still works with live? |
07:41.55 | Fisker | not different account Shefki |
07:41.58 | Fisker | different region |
07:42.10 | Shefki | Fisker: Actually you're on a different wow account. |
07:42.16 | Fisker | yes but it doesn't matter |
07:42.17 | Megalon | realid |
07:42.20 | Megalon | is bnet account |
07:42.20 | Fisker | that you're on a different region does |
07:42.35 | Shefki | Does RealID settings actually cross wow accounts? |
07:42.38 | Fisker | yes |
07:42.41 | Fisker | not regions |
07:48.09 | sbu | yay |
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07:52.09 | Megalon | lowfisker |
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08:03.53 | Torhal | sends Fisker into Megalon's region. |
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08:07.56 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
08:08.07 | asmodai | Owww, Siggraph next week |
08:08.19 | Fisker | no |
08:08.19 | Fisker | u |
08:10.05 | Megalon | sickgraph |
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08:11.17 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta10-2-g6264669 Options/LayoutEditor/Texts.lua: [+1 commit] Fix typo in previous commit. |
08:13.57 | sbu | hehe, pally beacon changed again :p |
08:14.13 | sbu | (nerfed!!! :P) |
08:20.48 | Niv | good |
08:20.51 | Niv | it needs to be |
08:20.58 | Niv | I can have perm 40% dmg reduction and 100% block assuming I have enough rage to maintain it |
08:21.02 | Niv | gogo beta :P |
08:21.09 | Niv | of course my rage gen is still fucking terrible |
08:23.18 | sbu | Niv: yup, 50% heal on beacon target is more appropriate - its just crazy to have all you heal doubled...´ |
08:24.17 | Aens|Superiority | thunderclap is now a short duration consecrate. neat. |
08:24.26 | Aens|Superiority | when talented that is |
08:25.40 | Zyn | silly Worgen voices and phrases D: |
08:31.19 | Niv | Aens|Superiority: I guess that's their solution to streaming mos |
08:31.21 | Niv | mobs* |
08:33.56 | sbu | btw ragnaros quest still bugged |
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08:34.24 | sbu | i could start it, then cenarius died and thats it... |
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08:37.35 | Repo | 10character-notes (experimental): 03talryn1 * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): First version |
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08:55.21 | koaschten | beta not up again? |
08:55.31 | koaschten | can't log :/ |
08:59.50 | ramoz | FFFUUU~~ gimme wowservers |
09:00.04 | ramoz | i wanna game on my day off |
09:00.46 | koaschten | scratch that, the realmlist.wtf edit from public-beta to public-test worked |
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09:12.43 | vhaarr | anyone got a download location for the latest beta patch? |
09:13.43 | Elkano | torrent was fine for me... |
09:13.57 | vhaarr | well I wouldn't be asking if it was fine for me, would I? |
09:14.04 | Niv | maybe you would |
09:14.48 | Elkano | in case you have a local ftp running I could push it to you (enGB that is) |
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09:23.05 | Repo | 10character-notes (experimental): 03talryn1 04v0.3 * r3 : Tagging as v0.3 |
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09:27.15 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/raiding-frames/. Flex-frames. Burkey206 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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09:35.14 | koaschten | I wonder why the patch was 1.36gb ... |
09:36.02 | Elkano | cause it's a full patch for all previous builds |
09:36.27 | Elkano | will get rid of most of the patch-x.mpqs and thus free ~10GB hd space ^^ |
09:41.43 | digmouse|work | an epic patch cleaner yay |
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09:43.34 | asmodai | heya Elkano |
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09:55.46 | Adirelle|work | do they fixed the guild ui ? |
09:56.09 | sbu | nope |
09:57.42 | Adirelle|work | erf |
09:58.00 | Adirelle|work | it looked like they did, since there is a tonshit of update to guild ui files |
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09:59.05 | sbu | still marked as "insecure" |
10:02.06 | Wobin | http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100720.html |
10:02.08 | Wobin | woah |
10:02.35 | sbu | i want that in 1920x1200 :p |
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10:27.54 | ramoz | ~wowalert |
10:27.55 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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10:30.05 | Shefki | Is it just me or does wowprogramming.com not work for anyone else anymore? |
10:31.11 | Shefki | If I telnet to port 80 of it and do a GET by hand it spits out the headers with a Content-Length of 0 and no data. |
10:31.44 | Wobin | Shefki: works fine for me |
10:32.08 | asmodai | what he said |
10:32.55 | Shefki | I get the same result from my phone. |
10:36.25 | asmodai | As in doesn't work? |
10:36.41 | Shefki | Yup. |
10:36.54 | Shefki | Zero bytes of content. |
10:37.15 | Elkano | maybe they blocked you 'cause they don't like you anymore? |
10:38.16 | Shefki | And there now it loads again. |
10:38.24 | Shefki | Must be some sort of server issue. |
10:42.18 | asmodai | Shefki: round robin system with one bad server in between? |
10:42.24 | asmodai | or some other load balancing system |
10:42.59 | Shefki | Doubt linode has anything that sophistocated. |
10:46.08 | Shefki | And it's supposedly running lighttpd/1.4.19 which interestingly has a known DoS attack against it. |
10:46.14 | Shefki | Hopefully it's patched. |
10:46.42 | jnwhiteh | wowprogramming.com works just fine |
10:46.48 | jnwhiteh | and I'm running the latest version of lighttpd in debian |
10:46.57 | jnwhiteh | and you shoudl probably just ask me next time |
10:47.00 | jnwhiteh | rather than musing about it =) |
10:47.15 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Well obviously it wasn't working earlier. |
10:47.21 | jnwhiteh | 'obviously'? |
10:47.24 | jnwhiteh | nothing's changed |
10:47.28 | Shefki | Don't be an ass. |
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10:47.32 | jnwhiteh | I'm not being an ass |
10:47.39 | Shefki | I didn't just imagine not getting any response from the webserver. |
10:47.50 | Shefki | Or I should say content. |
10:48.11 | jnwhiteh | I'm not saying you are |
10:48.31 | jnwhiteh | any number of things could have happened. |
10:49.19 | Shefki | And it just did it again. |
10:49.26 | Shefki | Page load with no content. |
10:49.40 | Shefki | But a successful response code. |
10:50.57 | jnwhiteh | I've never seen this, so I'm not sure how best to help. |
10:51.33 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: I'd probably look at your logs and/or poke your hosting provider. |
10:51.42 | jnwhiteh | there's no hosting provider, its my box. |
10:51.47 | jnwhiteh | and the logs indicate no issues |
10:52.02 | jnwhiteh | hence why I'm trying to figure something out |
10:52.39 | Shefki | Address: http://www.wowprogramming.com/ |
10:52.46 | Shefki | Size: 0 KB (0 bytes) |
10:53.04 | jnwhiteh | that's not the address of the site |
10:53.08 | jnwhiteh | for one.. |
10:53.35 | jnwhiteh | so its serving an empty page |
10:53.43 | jnwhiteh | the redirect must have gotten borked. |
10:53.45 | Shefki | You don't have a redirect for www. ? |
10:53.50 | jnwhiteh | I did |
10:53.53 | jnwhiteh | it changed, obviously |
10:54.50 | jnwhiteh | fixed |
10:54.56 | jnwhiteh | told you there was a reasonable explanation =) |
10:55.05 | Shefki | I didn't say there wasn't. |
10:55.13 | Shefki | I was just saying there was a problem. |
10:55.16 | jnwhiteh | and I didn't say that you said there wasn't. |
10:55.17 | jnwhiteh | jesus. |
10:55.23 | jnwhiteh | why are you so wound tight today? |
10:55.37 | jnwhiteh | I appreciate the report, thank you. |
10:55.42 | Shefki | You're the difficult one, you're always difficult to talk to. |
10:55.51 | jnwhiteh | ... |
10:55.53 | Shefki | I say there's obviously a problem. |
10:55.58 | Shefki | You say 'obviously'? |
10:56.19 | jnwhiteh | Well, you said it didn't work one second and worked the next |
10:56.23 | jnwhiteh | YOU changed something |
10:56.31 | jnwhiteh | I wanted to get to the root of the issue |
10:56.46 | jnwhiteh | Believe what you want to believe |
10:56.55 | jnwhiteh | I think you're reading way too much into what I'm saying |
10:57.44 | jnwhiteh | and reading ill-intent where you think there is some |
10:57.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm not quite sure what you have against me, but I'm happy to talk about it when we both have time |
10:58.49 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Take this how you will but you act as if everyone elses results are wrong. |
10:59.26 | jnwhiteh | I think that's a matter of your perception, but thank you for the feedback. |
10:59.32 | jnwhiteh | I said one work that's objectionable in this conversation |
10:59.35 | jnwhiteh | 'obviously' |
11:00.02 | jnwhiteh | And it was not obvious to me at that point that there was anything consistently wrong.. which could point to any number of issues |
11:00.12 | jnwhiteh | you yourself were giving inconsistent results, and everyone else was able to access the site just fine. |
11:00.41 | jnwhiteh | In the end, your testing was not rigorous, and I made a configuration change that was incorrect and interacted in a bad way with the way you were requesting the site. |
11:01.10 | jnwhiteh | 'obviously' something was wrong with the way your interactions with the website were going, and it's my fault, and I've corrected it. |
11:01.30 | jnwhiteh | That does not mean there is something 'obviously' wrong with the website, since you were the only one who was reporting it, and that report was itself not consistent. |
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11:02.18 | jnwhiteh | I'm glad that you're able to make such judgements about me from the limited contact we've had over the internet. |
11:02.27 | Shefki | Probably because I'm using Chrome which has a habit of sticking www. in front of things for you. |
11:02.31 | jnwhiteh | (that was sarcasm, I think it's unfortunate) |
11:02.37 | jnwhiteh | I also use Chrome |
11:02.52 | jnwhiteh | I'm not saying anything is your fault |
11:02.56 | jnwhiteh | so there's no reason to get defensive. |
11:03.32 | Shefki | I think I've talked enough with you to have made some conclusions about you. |
11:03.35 | jnwhiteh | We've talked like 15 times |
11:04.07 | Shefki | Every single time I've ever talked to you about something I've walked away with the impression that you're difficult to work with. |
11:04.25 | jnwhiteh | yet I've helped you in every single case |
11:04.28 | jnwhiteh | quite literally |
11:04.51 | jnwhiteh | Perhaps you're mistaking my urge to ensure I understand a problem properly with me questioning you. I could certainly see how that could be the case. |
11:05.06 | jnwhiteh | But I can't help but feel you're reading animosity into emotionless words on the internet. |
11:05.20 | jnwhiteh | I have been angry before, and I have attacked people.. and I'm fairly confident that that's never happened with you. |
11:05.26 | jnwhiteh | Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. |
11:05.44 | jnwhiteh | So the posts I've made for you, the reports I've made to Blizzard, the changes I've made to my addons. |
11:05.49 | jnwhiteh | All of that is 'difficult to work with' |
11:06.20 | Shefki | Someone can be difficult to work with and still get work done. |
11:06.25 | jnwhiteh | You've asked questions and asked me to make changes multiple times now without clearly explaining the problem. When that happens, what am I supposed to do other than ask for further clarification. |
11:06.29 | Shefki | The two are not mutually exclusive concepts. |
11:06.32 | jnwhiteh | Of course not |
11:06.51 | jnwhiteh | I'm not so much of an idiot that I'm unaware of that fact |
11:07.53 | jnwhiteh | I honestly suggest you re-read this conversation again. |
11:07.58 | jnwhiteh | And tell me who is the one who is being openly hostile. |
11:08.06 | jnwhiteh | Here's a hint, from where I'm sitting, it's not me. |
11:08.13 | jnwhiteh | I said ONE word that you found objectionable |
11:08.18 | jnwhiteh | and I regret not further clarifying why I said it. |
11:08.59 | Shefki | My reactions to you are obviously colored by my past experiences with you. |
11:09.09 | jnwhiteh | I'm sorry, but that's your problem. |
11:09.31 | jnwhiteh | since there's clearly nothing I can do to fix or resolve that |
11:09.47 | jnwhiteh | and I'm already starting from negative karma in your social hierarchy |
11:10.02 | jnwhiteh | but if I don't know that, how can I temper what I'm saying to avoid upsetting you further? |
11:10.18 | jnwhiteh | Sounds like I'm in a sure-lose position |
11:11.22 | jnwhiteh | Thank you for your help resolving the configuration issue on wowprogramming.com. It's unfortunate that some people might have received an empty page in response to their request, and I'll try to avoid making changes like that in the future. |
11:12.10 | jnwhiteh | If you have suggestions for how I can be less 'difficult', please feel free to let me know off-channel and I'll certainly take your feedback into consideration. |
11:14.03 | sztanpet | bitches |
11:20.24 | Megalon | jnwhiteh is butthurt because Shefki said bad things about his lighthttpd |
11:20.24 | Megalon | :( |
11:20.50 | jnwhiteh | I'm fairly resilient, I suspect I'll be able to cope. |
11:20.57 | Shefki | I didn't say anything bad, I said that version has a DoS exploit against it if it ISN'T PATCHED. |
11:21.23 | Shefki | I'm gonna guess it is since he sayys he's using the debian package. |
11:21.45 | jnwhiteh | there is a security update repository specifically for that |
11:22.00 | jnwhiteh | I'll of course be looking at it later, but I'm not terribly concerned with a DDOS of wowprogramming.com |
11:22.27 | Wobin | jnwhiteh will backtrace any attack =P |
11:23.03 | jnwhiteh | I was more concerned about what I feel is a somewhat unfair characterization of me, but I've said pretty much all I can say. |
11:23.25 | krka | wall of text! |
11:23.37 | jnwhiteh | I suspect you know how to use your scrollbar. |
11:23.43 | jnwhiteh | I have to go hang my laundry. |
11:23.45 | Wobin | smites you for lots |
11:24.01 | Wobin | So, DC Universe |
11:24.06 | Wobin | (Online) |
11:24.44 | asmodai | Wobin: indeed! |
11:26.36 | Shefki | For what it's worth, I've sat here to figure out that if I type wowprogramming.com chorme goes to www.wowprogramming.com |
11:26.45 | Shefki | If I type wowprogramming.com/ it goes to wowprogramming.com |
11:27.20 | Shefki | So as far as I was concerned I was typing the same thing, I wasn't even thinking about the / |
11:28.10 | Shefki | But OBVIOUSLY I should be perfect and come to jnwhiteh with perfectly complete bug reports. |
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11:30.04 | Wobin | I think jnwhiteh's sentence fragments puts forward a brevity that was a bit misinterpreted |
11:30.14 | Wobin | screws up his tenses |
11:30.30 | Wobin | s/puts/put/ |
11:30.57 | Wobin | he wasn't being abrupt, just distracted. |
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11:38.17 | Shefki | Wobin: I took the obviously response as dismissive of any problem at all. Which fit with his very first line in response to this. |
11:39.06 | sbu | errr |
11:39.10 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2731 / (15 files in 7 directories): Cleanup, new BabbleBoss entrys |
11:39.11 | sbu | my realid friends are gone :p |
11:39.25 | Shefki | sbu: battle.net offline? |
11:39.41 | sbu | no idea, i can send new requestes |
11:39.42 | sbu | -e |
11:39.51 | Shefki | beta or live? |
11:39.57 | sbu | live |
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11:41.39 | Shefki | Who knows, probably just a temporary problem. |
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11:42.35 | Shefki | Maybe they deployed a fix for BN_NEW_PRESENCE this week, I haven't bothered to test it yet, and goofed something up in the process. |
11:42.49 | sbu | whats that? |
11:43.20 | Shefki | event that fires when you reconnect to the battle.net server. |
11:44.06 | Shefki | It always sends events for your own presenceIDs which includes your real name, even if you're not using Real ID (unless you've disabled RealID entirely) |
11:47.59 | Shefki | Indeed they did fix the event. |
11:48.46 | Shefki | BN_NEW_PRESENCE 7 BN_NEW_PRESENCE 8 Shefki |
11:48.55 | Shefki | First one doesn't have my real name on it anymore. |
11:58.01 | Shefki | sbu: EU or US? |
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12:04.04 | Fisker | i don't get it |
12:04.14 | Fisker | why not just let anyone disable it? |
12:04.25 | Shefki | RealID? |
12:05.24 | Shefki | Fisker: If you mean RealID you can disable it, by turning on parental controls. |
12:05.37 | Fisker | yes |
12:05.42 | Fisker | by turning on parental controls |
12:05.49 | Fisker | shouldn't be nessecary :3 |
12:05.56 | Shefki | It's not now. |
12:06.07 | Shefki | All the holes have been fixed. |
12:06.27 | Fisker | i know |
12:06.52 | Fisker | just saying you should be allowed to opt-out completely without using parental controls |
12:07.11 | Shefki | I'm gonna guess they just didn't figure it was necessary. |
12:07.21 | Shefki | Since in theory nothing is exposed unless you add friends. |
12:08.29 | Fisker | true |
12:08.49 | Shefki | Hell both me and Shadowed dug around with it and didn't think to try whispering ourselves with our own presenceID nor did we notice the event which doesn't fire very often. |
12:09.55 | Shefki | I'm just glad they took the issue seriously enough to get it fixed this fast. |
12:10.09 | Shefki | I mean how often have you seen Blizzard fix a bug that quickly? |
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12:10.19 | Fisker | haha |
12:10.27 | Fisker | just like how they fixed accountname in cataclysm |
12:10.35 | Shefki | ? |
12:10.35 | Fisker | so it'll have been ingame for ~6 years when they fix it |
12:10.36 | Fisker | hoho |
12:10.44 | Shefki | What do you mean? |
12:10.47 | Fisker | the cvar with your account name in it |
12:11.12 | Shefki | Ohh was that accessible in game? |
12:11.15 | Fisker | they fixed it here with all the uproar over real id |
12:11.16 | Fisker | yeah |
12:11.17 | Stanzilla | what does it return now? |
12:11.23 | Fisker | nothing |
12:11.24 | Shefki | Probably nothing. |
12:11.34 | Shefki | Fisker: You sure it wasn't at the same time as they fixed AVR? |
12:11.42 | Fisker | i argued that it was the users responsibility to make sure he didn't use malicious addons |
12:11.45 | Fisker | naw Shefki |
12:11.46 | Shefki | Since that may have waranted more looking at CVARs. |
12:11.48 | Fisker | works on live |
12:11.50 | Fisker | or should do |
12:12.13 | Fisker | and this guy didn't believe you could get any other info but the real id stuff |
12:12.23 | Fisker | and i showed him how to get his username (i.e. now e-mail) |
12:12.28 | Shefki | Isn't that only set if you set it to save your account name though? |
12:13.04 | Fisker | hmm |
12:13.06 | Fisker | dunno about that |
12:13.07 | Fisker | might be |
12:13.45 | Shefki | GetCVar("accountName") returns nothing for me. |
12:13.58 | Shefki | Was there a different accountName cvar? |
12:15.00 | Fisker | nope |
12:15.03 | Fisker | that was it |
12:15.18 | Shefki | Well it's not accessible in game anymore if it ever was. |
12:15.28 | Shefki | And I have my accountname set to save. |
12:15.36 | Fisker | it definitely was |
12:15.48 | Shefki | I'd guess they caught it with the vars AVR was using. |
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12:16.09 | Shefki | Makes sense that they'd realize their security model was being broken by some CVARs and look through all of the ones available. |
12:16.25 | Fisker | hmm |
12:16.30 | Fisker | when was the real id bug discovered? |
12:16.36 | Fisker | because it could've been EU was still on 3.3.3 |
12:16.46 | Shefki | Umm they were. |
12:16.57 | Fisker | probably why then |
12:18.05 | Shefki | Might have been before that too, there were people paranoid about it before the bugs even popped up. |
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12:20.07 | Fisker | fun fact though |
12:20.19 | Fisker | 3.3.5 returns accountname in the console |
12:20.21 | Fisker | cataclysm doesn't |
12:21.12 | Shefki | How do you get into the console I never remember. |
12:21.50 | Fisker | just create a shortcut and add -console |
12:22.17 | Shefki | Not on Windows. |
12:22.46 | Fisker | baw |
12:23.08 | Fisker | there's a cvar you can set in the wtf file too i believe |
12:23.13 | Fisker | but i can't remember it |
12:23.22 | Fisker | probably just something as simple as "console 1" but idk |
12:24.48 | Shefki | Well this didn't work: open /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/World\ of\ Warcraft.app --args -console |
12:25.06 | Fisker | that's what you get from maccing |
12:25.16 | Shefki | Ahh nm it worked. |
12:28.48 | Shefki | And yeah it works. Not that it matters, anyone that can use that knows the accoutName anyway. |
12:31.02 | Fisker | yeah i know |
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12:31.16 | Fisker | might just be why someone said they added it in cataclysm |
12:31.22 | Fisker | since that blocks the console too |
12:31.37 | Fisker | but i'm guessing they'll just be removing the cvars they do not feel should return values to the ui |
12:33.01 | Shefki | Probably worth removing just to avoid paranoia. Not like anyone needs that info to debug something. |
12:33.59 | Stanzilla | are the beta servers still down btw? |
12:34.00 | Shefki | Then again, maybe they just tightened up what info the client keeps and it no longer retains the accountName in memory after login. |
12:37.31 | Fisker | they're up here Stanzilla |
12:37.44 | Stanzilla | yeah just noticed |
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12:54.58 | Repo | 10mob-notes: 03Rabbit * r60 / (3 files in 1 directory): Drycoded and untested config options. |
13:00.32 | Repo | 10mob-notes: 03Rabbit * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory): Make LDB optional, drycoded. |
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13:18.45 | asmodai | http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100721.html |
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13:36.34 | Repo | 10atlas_arena (experimental): 03arith * r8 Locale (7 files in 1 directory): |
13:36.36 | Repo | added Korean translation, also update all languages' translation |
13:38.16 | steev | morning sirs |
13:38.19 | steev | and fisker |
13:43.40 | kagaro | hrmm this has to be a bug, dancing rune weapon adds a second dot to the target |
13:44.10 | steev | wow, congrats on acquiring mmo-champion |
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13:45.20 | Zyn | today MMOC, tomorrow ... THE WORLD |
13:45.25 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
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13:48.57 | arkanes | heh, casting healing hands gives 60% speed boost. I can't wait, cast it & zoom all over the raid like tinkerbell |
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13:57.08 | Nickenyfiken | omg the phasing in Hyjal is just amazing. |
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14:04.15 | steev | all you people in beta |
14:04.19 | steev | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
14:06.17 | Elkano | why so mad *biggrin* |
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14:08.46 | Fisker | slaps steev around a bit with a large trout |
14:10.04 | Repo | 10atlas_arena (experimental): 03arith * r9 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
14:10.06 | Repo | added ReleaseNotes.txt and pkgmeta, also update TOC, it's about ready for release |
14:11.08 | arkanes | so just from talents, holy pallies get 400% haste to holy light |
14:11.41 | arkanes | which drops it below the GCD |
14:14.26 | steev | arkanes: nice! |
14:14.30 | Fisker | slaps arkanes around a bit with a large trout |
14:15.08 | arkanes | speed of light should probably not apply to holy light, and instead to some other heal |
14:15.35 | arkanes | of course I think it already applies to all the cast time ones :\ |
14:16.25 | arkanes | oh heh I missed a decimal point |
14:16.31 | arkanes | 233% haste, still a lot |
14:18.17 | arkanes | *133% |
14:18.17 | Axodious | i was gonna say... lol |
14:18.17 | Axodious | is this including procs that reduce casting speed? |
14:18.17 | arkanes | yes |
14:18.18 | Axodious | time * |
14:18.18 | arkanes | this would be after a crity holy shock |
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14:18.32 | Axodious | yeah that sounds like it's about right |
14:18.43 | phyber | anyone got the .torrent for the latest enGB beta patch? forum seems to say it's ~1.3GB, need to try grabbing it at work instead of slowly downloading at home :) |
14:18.52 | arkanes | basically if you have any haste at all it'll drop your holy light to the GCD or below |
14:19.06 | Axodious | phyber you know how to fetch the torrent? |
14:19.32 | phyber | Axodious: there are torrent extractors that will pull it out of the downloader. |
14:19.41 | phyber | just checking wowwiki for it now that i asked too, should have done this first :p |
14:19.45 | Axodious | arkanes: they did that change with holy shock crit because in pve you rarely use it unless you are moving |
14:20.08 | arkanes | Axodious: back in naxx before the illumination nerf you used it on cooldown for the crit |
14:20.12 | arkanes | I imagine people will do the same now |
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14:20.25 | phyber | Axodious: although, the downloader is fine too, if you have that. I can just run it in wine. |
14:20.30 | phyber | :) |
14:21.24 | Axodious | gah wait i've only got enus |
14:21.35 | Axodious | should have actually read what you said >_> |
14:21.50 | phyber | ah, ok :) |
14:22.00 | Axodious | it will be usefull in ohcrap moments now arkanes which is what i think they are intending |
14:22.39 | Axodious | just finishing patching the beta now ~_~ |
14:22.40 | arkanes | I'll be using it on cooldown pretty much I expect |
14:22.51 | Axodious | patching it took like 10 minutes |
14:22.55 | arkanes | it's basically a better version of the t10 4pc |
14:22.59 | Axodious | yea |
14:23.31 | Axodious | lol entire patch took 33 minutes >_< |
14:23.48 | arkanes | and the 4pc would be good if I didn't stack so much haste already, the t10 wasn't so badly itemized |
14:23.54 | Repo | 10mob-notes: 03Rabbit * r62 / (5 files in 2 directories): Some more options and fix a drycode mistake. |
14:24.10 | arkanes | but since I won't have as much haste in cata, and I'll have more crit, I'll be using that a lot |
14:24.38 | Repo | 10mob-notes: 03Rabbit * r63 MobNotes.lua: Remove 2 debug prints. |
14:26.05 | Axodious | not sure how i'm feeling with the prot/ret changes so far |
14:26.12 | arkanes | I like the prot tree |
14:26.13 | Axodious | a lot of proc stuff |
14:26.16 | arkanes | yeah |
14:26.21 | arkanes | sword & board for pallies |
14:26.38 | arkanes | eye for an eye is interesting |
14:26.50 | Axodious | i thought it was funny when it was judging |
14:27.06 | arkanes | I actually liked that mechanic better |
14:27.24 | Axodious | the problem was that in pvp you were pegged at full mana pretty much |
14:27.50 | arkanes | I dont like that it gets worse as you gain avoidance, but 3% of your incoming damage reflected is a pretty good chunk of t/dps |
14:28.40 | Stanzilla | I hate how they gave consecration to warriors :( |
14:28.40 | Axodious | providing it actually generates threat |
14:28.51 | arkanes | did they? |
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14:29.17 | Stanzilla | yup |
14:29.24 | arkanes | I haven't looked at warriors yet |
14:29.36 | Stanzilla | Thunderstruck - Your Thunder Clap leaves a crackling zone of energy on the ground for 5/10 sec, dealing 5.63 damage every sec to enemies that cross it. |
14:29.47 | arkanes | heh nice |
14:29.58 | Axodious | not quite the same as the new consecrate |
14:30.01 | Stanzilla | no, lame :p |
14:30.05 | Pucmel | its not yellow ! |
14:30.05 | arkanes | I like how pallies can choose between burst AOE by talenting up holy wrath, or buffing consecrate |
14:30.14 | arkanes | or a combination thereof |
14:30.50 | arkanes | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=-ptQOhZ3.9ob.paladin is basically what I've come up with, exact details of the points to vary as we see how stuff plays out |
14:31.41 | Axodious | i remember reading about a healing conal spell for paladins, that sounds interesting if they implement it |
14:31.49 | arkanes | its 31 point talent in holy |
14:32.16 | Axodious | wow i'm blind |
14:32.19 | arkanes | all our AOE heals are back on cooldowns :( |
14:32.21 | Axodious | for some reason i thought that was healing hands |
14:33.04 | Axodious | i expect a lot of fights where we're gonna have an aoe hpase or something where ppl stack up |
14:33.07 | Axodious | for healing hands |
14:33.17 | arkanes | nah thats what speed of light is for |
14:33.35 | arkanes | you pop it and you fly through the raid like tinkerbell, spewing your healing... seed... all over |
14:33.43 | Axodious | rofl |
14:33.44 | Ackis | any hg users here? http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2398-does-the-packager-use-tip-or-default-branch/ |
14:33.52 | arkanes | I may have to name change |
14:34.18 | Axodious | i've already got an awesome name for speed of light |
14:34.26 | Axodious | Sonic Xd |
14:34.31 | arkanes | Ackis: if you didn't set hg up to do something special, it pulls tip |
14:34.53 | Axodious | and my ass of a room mate stole my idea, robotnik with mims head |
14:34.58 | arkanes | heh |
14:35.23 | Axodious | a giant tauren running at 60% speed is going to be interesting |
14:35.28 | asmodai | Ackis: oi |
14:36.02 | asmodai | Oh nvm, didn't see you were asking about the URL -- which arkanes answered. |
14:36.16 | Axodious | now the question is: are these the actual talent trees or is this still "nothing has been touched" |
14:36.18 | Axodious | >_> <_< |
14:37.16 | arkanes | well they're clearly more developed than the previous iteration |
14:37.26 | steev | i'm up to 23 shards, so i got 4 last night, which made me happy |
14:37.35 | arkanes | I haven't looked at all of them but I don't see anything more than minor polish needed really |
14:37.45 | steev | we're gonna try hard modes on bql, dreamwalker and princes tomorrow |
14:38.21 | Ackis | thanks arkanes and asmodai |
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14:40.40 | Axodious | hmmm |
14:41.00 | Axodious | wonder if it's worth while to reduce divine protection... |
14:41.24 | asmodai | Ackis: Heh, np, didn't do anything though. |
14:41.32 | Ackis | asmodai: you tried ;) |
14:41.33 | Axodious | usually i only use it once on a given fight |
14:46.32 | Axodious | hmm arkanes, probably what i'm gonna do is have 2 prot specs |
14:46.34 | arkanes | steev: bql is pretty easy |
14:46.49 | steev | arkanes: yeah, and there is 30% now so |
14:46.59 | arkanes | princes is a pain in the ass, but not that hard once yuo get the hang of it, dreamwalker can be really rough |
14:47.09 | arkanes | add management on heroic is *hard* |
14:47.46 | arkanes | Axodious: 2 minute CD vs a 5 minute one is a big difference, and they'll balance boss timers assuming you have a 2 min one available |
14:48.15 | Axodious | you could substitue DG for the 2nd cooldown though |
14:48.25 | arkanes | only 20% |
14:48.47 | arkanes | it'll depend on the fights I suppose |
14:48.52 | arkanes | that does free up a lot of threat points |
14:49.01 | Axodious | probably i'll have 2 specs like i said |
14:49.04 | Axodious | an uber threat spec |
14:49.09 | Axodious | and one with more survivability |
14:49.41 | arkanes | 9/6/9 is dead of course but I'm not sure what our new rotation is gonna be and if imp judgment is going to be useful |
14:50.15 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Enjoy yourself, Im' done. |
14:50.34 | jnwhiteh | I find it incredible that after everything I said, you still find a need to come after me. |
14:50.43 | Axodious | survive: http://www.wowtal.com/#k=p8OGCK1.9ob.paladin threat: http://www.wowtal.com/#k=-pAKFTKu.9ob.paladin |
14:50.48 | Axodious | something like that |
14:51.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7532 Northrend/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
14:51.46 | Axodious | pretty happy about the change to reckoning |
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14:52.03 | arkanes | its a nerf relative to live |
14:52.32 | Axodious | it scales better |
14:52.37 | arkanes | but now that there will be slow tanking weapons, and the threat talents in ret aren't as amazing, it's worth taking |
14:52.45 | arkanes | nah its the same |
14:52.51 | arkanes | reckoning on live procs on blocks or damage |
14:53.01 | arkanes | tooltip is just wrong for the low ranks of it |
14:53.56 | Axodious | yes it procs from both of those but right now when you start getting geared your avoiding more rather than blocking and avoiding doesn't proc it |
14:54.29 | arkanes | sure but that parts not changing |
14:55.23 | arkanes | overall avoidance will be lower so it's a little nicer in that respect |
14:55.27 | arkanes | but then so will block |
14:56.38 | arkanes | based purely on intuition I suspect it'll be our second-best single target threat talent though, after crusade |
15:06.52 | steev | arkanes: we run with like 4 resto druids, a resto shaman, a holy paladin and a couple priests |
15:07.14 | arkanes | steev: thats a lot of healers |
15:07.27 | steev | the priests are normally shadow unless we need bubbles |
15:07.45 | steev | one druid has a tank offspec, another has boom |
15:07.50 | arkanes | those are all weak classes for dreamwalker sadly |
15:07.56 | steev | :( |
15:07.59 | arkanes | pallies and shamans are the best |
15:08.00 | steev | warrior heals? |
15:08.02 | steev | ahh |
15:08.19 | steev | we run with 5 paladins, of which, 2 are tanks and the other 3 all have dps/heals |
15:08.37 | arkanes | druids are second best, have the priests go 1 holy 1 disc and stay out |
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15:13.56 | steev | i'm kind of annoyed with the game right now |
15:14.06 | steev | i can't really upgrade anything without losing out on shit |
15:14.33 | steev | winding sheet heroic, drops me to 13 expertise |
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15:15.39 | steev | the ring dropped, but i lost the roll, that woulda been nice |
15:17.18 | Wobin | ugh, as disc, I struggle to keep everyone healed on Dreamwalker |
15:17.35 | Wobin | of course, we haven't had many attempts |
15:17.53 | Wobin | so I guess once the dreamwalker healers get used to going in and out and healing, they can toss a few heals to the raid |
15:18.09 | arkanes | if anything it should be the other way around |
15:18.18 | arkanes | if you're having trouble, have anothe raid healer |
15:18.42 | arkanes | we use a druid and I think 2 priests outside |
15:18.49 | arkanes | maybe 2 druids and 2 priests? |
15:19.30 | orionshock | gg one bad hearth and boom have to delete my worgen :( |
15:20.17 | Wobin | arkanes: oh, only 10man |
15:20.55 | arkanes | Wobin: if you're the only person out, then you really want to be holy |
15:21.22 | Wobin | but Disc isn't really as effective on dreamwalker healing, no? |
15:21.36 | arkanes | disc is usless on her directly yeah |
15:22.04 | arkanes | holy generally has an easier time with the damage outside, and it gives you GS on her |
15:22.41 | Wobin | hm, maybe I can finagle the healers to be pally/priest with the druid outside doing raid heals |
15:22.43 | Wobin | and I dps =P |
15:22.55 | Wobin | (holy priest) |
15:23.17 | Repo | 10libmapdata-1-0: 03kagaro 07cataclysm * r30 library.lua: Patch changes to map data |
15:26.31 | arkanes | man ret has too many places to spend talents |
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15:34.47 | Ali1331 | 1.36gb.... |
15:34.51 | Ali1331 | *sigh* |
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15:47.22 | durcyn | Ali1331: it's a cumulative patch, just think though: the next time you have to reinstall beta, it'll go faster! |
15:50.01 | Ali1331 | Why would I have to reinstall it |
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15:53.55 | groktar | my new monitor arms are out for delivery /happydance |
15:54.39 | Kaelten | g'morning |
15:54.51 | groktar | pounces Kaelten |
15:58.24 | Kaelten | eek! |
15:58.54 | groktar | kills Kaelten and eats his liver |
15:59.02 | Kaelten | :( |
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16:00.19 | quiescens | resurrects whats left of kaelten. |
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16:00.42 | Kaelten | :) |
16:00.45 | groktar | eek an undead |
16:00.50 | groktar | holy wrath |
16:01.21 | quiescens | oh well |
16:02.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7533 Northrend (2 files in 2 directories): Northrend/Halion: Add BombCD and say |
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16:07.10 | groktar | is bored |
16:07.15 | groktar | tweaks his webserver |
16:07.29 | asmodai | Kaelten: Morning! |
16:07.54 | groktar | attempts to pounce asmodai, but misses high and goes flying through the window |
16:08.04 | asmodai | watches something fly past |
16:08.16 | groktar | hits the ground with a sickening thud |
16:09.01 | groktar | mmm watching apt-get upgrade is fun |
16:09.54 | groktar | wonders if he should change his root password from "password" |
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16:10.16 | Kaelten | hey asmodai |
16:10.20 | asmodai | Kaelten: gratz |
16:10.21 | Nobgul | lol |
16:13.03 | nevcairiel | anyone happen to know a mirror fro the engb beta patch? the freaking downloader is crawling agian |
16:13.20 | Kaelten | gratz? |
16:13.25 | durcyn | engb, /heh/ |
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16:20.14 | groktar | hears vhaar is downloading movies off usenet, gobbling up all your bandwidth |
16:20.19 | groktar | evil vhaarr |
16:20.22 | asmodai | Kaelten: For enslaving Bibi |
16:20.27 | groktar | slaps vhaarr around a bit with a large trout |
16:20.39 | Kaelten | lol |
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16:30.21 | Fisker | Kaelten |
16:30.25 | Fisker | when do i has sc2? |
16:33.56 | Kaelten | on launch day? |
16:34.31 | Elkano | why would you even want it? |
16:35.09 | Fisker | i don't think so Kaelten |
16:35.09 | Elkano | for me, the only reason to get it would most likely be the custom maps... :/ |
16:35.11 | Fisker | wow pets Elkano ! |
16:35.40 | Nobgul | wow pet? |
16:35.47 | Fisker | yeah |
16:36.02 | nevcairiel | All i would do with it is play single player |
16:36.09 | nevcairiel | and its kinda too expensive for that, imho |
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16:36.53 | Nobgul | Fisker any clue on what type of pet? |
16:38.24 | Fisker | It's thor |
16:45.13 | Repo | 10atlas_arena (experimental): 03arith 041.0 * r10 : Tagging as 1.0 |
16:47.58 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r213 scrolldown.lua: |
16:48.00 | Repo | Tweak the fix for preventing the scrolldown module from loading if the button hide module is disabled. |
16:50.24 | steev | spiffy |
16:50.29 | steev | Grave Titan went up in price |
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17:00.11 | winkiller | mhm, Titan gravy |
17:04.23 | Xinhuan | alien swarm is going to > sc2 for me atm lol |
17:04.26 | Xinhuan | so good |
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17:07.01 | asmodai | Xinhuan: with 2-3 console commands you can play it as an FPS :P |
17:07.13 | Xinhuan | no doubt lol |
17:07.19 | asmodai | No seriously :) |
17:07.25 | Xinhuan | full source code available too (minus the game engine) |
17:07.49 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOvAYCZfo_g |
17:07.53 | asmodai | has the commands |
17:08.13 | Xinhuan | i know the commands, i've been coding in the source engine the last 5 months lol... |
17:09.30 | asmodai | Oh ok, buddies of mine are about to release a Source-based game on Steam in a few months |
17:09.31 | Ackis | has 2 SC2 CE's on pre-order |
17:09.42 | Fisker | has all SC2 CE's on pre-order |
17:11.23 | Ac-town | I need to reserve cata CE |
17:11.30 | asmodai | And you ain't getting any. |
17:11.43 | Ackis | my fiancee got a second job at a local EB games |
17:12.14 | Fisker | a second? :( |
17:12.24 | Fisker | what a great provider you are Ackis ! |
17:12.25 | Fisker | :D |
17:12.41 | asmodai | </rimshot> |
17:12.49 | Ackis | two jobs at 15-20 hours a week == less than a full time job asshole :P |
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17:14.18 | Pneumatus | so, alienswarm |
17:14.49 | Fisker | easily trolled Ackis |
17:14.56 | Pneumatus | pretty god damn awesome, rly |
17:19.55 | nevcairiel | havent played it yet, will probably try later today |
17:20.15 | Ac-town | I haven't played it yet, playing minecraft atm |
17:23.53 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: sup, you pinged |
17:24.02 | Stanzilla | uh right |
17:24.09 | Stanzilla | query inc after boss :D |
17:24.12 | Gnarfoz | kk |
17:24.38 | durcyn | alien swarm's the most fun you'll have for free -all- -week- |
17:26.44 | Pneumatus | reminds me of alien breed on the amiga |
17:26.52 | Pneumatus | im guessing that's probably the point |
17:26.58 | Fisker | slaps Stanzilla around a bit with a large trout |
17:27.00 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
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17:28.51 | durcyn | Pneumatus: it's based on a UT2K4 TC |
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17:30.44 | Elkano | durcyn, only if you rage with people you know ;) |
17:31.02 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/currentloc/. CurrentLocation. everix92 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
17:31.17 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlas_arena/. Atlas_Arena. arith (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
17:31.20 | durcyn | Elkano: i dunno, joining public games with the specific intent of getting the highest friendly fire score is occasionally amusing |
17:31.39 | Elkano | well, that's just grabbing the pumpgun ;) |
17:31.52 | asmodai | For you old timers, if you ever want to read an interesting book: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore |
17:39.33 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/character-notes/. Character Notes. talryn1 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
17:41.23 | Repo | 10rw2: 03kagaro * r566 / (22 files in 5 directories): |
17:41.24 | Repo | Stubbing of RaidWatch_Tracker. For right now, will not be added to the package, only available via svn checkout. Also by default it is no enabled. |
17:41.25 | Repo | Just contains some basic stubs, not ready for use yet |
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17:50.46 | Pneumatus | oh wowtal, why so unable to display sideways prereqs :< |
17:55.25 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: which one? |
17:55.39 | Pneumatus | priest |
17:56.06 | Pneumatus | shadowform goes sideways dependant on imp shadowform, as does evangelism with archangel |
17:56.13 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
17:57.18 | Pneumatus | none of the trees show sideways dependancies, although the only ones i know for sure are dependant are those two |
17:57.25 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: known issue, forwarded nontheless |
17:57.41 | Torhal | attaches several large prawn to Fisker's earlobes. |
18:02.42 | asmodai | banishes Fisker to Fraggle Rock |
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18:18.33 | asmodai | Hahaha |
18:18.33 | asmodai | is it a known problem the Worgen has no face on the character select screen? |
18:18.59 | Nickenyfiken | Yup |
18:19.39 | Niv | the replaced the faces |
18:19.54 | Niv | they* |
18:20.07 | asmodai | So my model uses some non-existing face now? :) |
18:20.34 | Niv | yep |
18:21.18 | asmodai | Well |
18:21.21 | asmodai | that's lovely then |
18:21.46 | asmodai | And disconnected from the server |
18:22.06 | Nickenyfiken | HS to Dalaran seems to be bugged in this patch too. |
18:22.37 | Niv | eh? |
18:24.22 | pompy | i dont think ive came across any innkeepers in mount hyjal lol.. are there any? |
18:25.06 | harl | PitBull4 question: when in a raid, is there a way to exclude myself from being shown in the list of raid members? |
18:25.07 | nevcairiel | yes |
18:25.15 | nevcairiel | @pompy |
18:25.33 | Shefki | No |
18:25.35 | durcyn | pompy: many, and lots. |
18:26.29 | pompy | at which places there? |
18:27.14 | pompy | and im not even tracking mailboxes and its showing the mail icon on a mailbox.. hmm. |
18:28.02 | harl | too bad. why not? ;) |
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18:32.52 | nevcairiel | now looting is broken |
18:32.58 | nevcairiel | try to loot once, and you get stuck |
18:33.45 | asmodai | Mine just totally hung |
18:34.00 | pompy | loot lag ftw |
18:36.33 | asmodai | yay, assert() |
18:36.36 | asmodai | hadn't see that before |
18:36.45 | nevcairiel | addon assert or crash assert? |
18:36.51 | asmodai | crash |
18:36.55 | quiescens | moo? |
18:37.00 | asmodai | ItemObjMgr |
18:37.02 | nevcairiel | thats kinda usual |
18:37.12 | asmodai | After using the Gilneas alpha teleporter dude |
18:37.19 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
18:37.30 | nevcairiel | ERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion Failure |
18:37.31 | nevcairiel | Program:D:\World of Warcraft Cataclysm\WoW.exe |
18:37.31 | nevcairiel | File:.\MapRenderChunk.cpp |
18:37.34 | nevcairiel | happens all the time ^ |
18:37.40 | nevcairiel | or used to, last patch anyway |
18:37.45 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.6-2-gcb02a38 ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed casing typo causing GetSituationalTooltip error |
18:37.58 | nevcairiel | (thats the one when you need to reduce viewing distance) |
18:38.04 | durcyn | oh, deepholm rendering bugs fixed, then? |
18:38.30 | nevcairiel | dunno |
18:38.32 | nevcairiel | havent been there yet |
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18:39.12 | nevcairiel | the freaking quest npc at the crashed carriage still dies randomly |
18:39.14 | nevcairiel | screw him |
18:39.35 | durcyn | or based on what i've seen so far this beta, they'll just remove deepholm so they stop getting bug reports about it |
18:40.34 | durcyn | or perhaps i'm just bitter because after six years of playing a warlock, they're finally removing everything unique or fun about the class, and i need the catharsis of complaining about it |
18:40.47 | durcyn | how did they gut your class this patch, hm? |
18:40.52 | nevcairiel | they just dont want too many reports about stuff thats known to be unfinished |
18:41.46 | sbu | well deepholme doesnt crash wow anymore, so thats good :P |
18:42.17 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I had a different one |
18:42.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Then don't include it. |
18:43.04 | Gnarfoz | can anyone point me in the right direction to find out what the hell this garbled text is: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/garbled_text.png |
18:43.19 | asmodai | I mean, seriously, beta means this is the stuff we have prior to release, we need stability and such to be tested. |
18:43.47 | asmodai | Put it in unfinished and people *will* complain. |
18:44.08 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: Zalgo. |
18:44.31 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: first hit on google is at ED, sounds about right... thanks |
18:44.56 | Gnarfoz | (would have never found that on my own, :F) |
18:45.20 | ckknight | Zalgo cometh. |
18:45.40 | Gnarfoz | etc etc |
18:46.19 | Gnarfoz | our resident guild idiot just wasted our time pretending our ts3 chat was "broken" (updated it yesterday, too) |
18:47.09 | Gnarfoz | rather, wasted my time, the poor gullible non-techie guys and gals fell for it and "alerted" me -.- |
18:47.24 | nevcairiel | meh, i still dont have a pet bar |
18:47.26 | nevcairiel | wth is this |
18:49.05 | asmodai | That's new. Darkflight triggers your true form now |
18:49.06 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: your voice chat is borken |
18:49.08 | Ackis | l2vent? |
18:49.19 | durcyn | Mumble, you canadian. |
18:49.31 | Ackis | eh? |
18:49.35 | Ackis | mumble what? |
18:49.41 | durcyn | exactly. |
18:50.00 | asmodai | yay |
18:50.07 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: haha vent gtfo |
18:50.08 | asmodai | Create All works at least with professions |
18:50.09 | Gnarfoz | (etc) |
18:50.20 | Ackis | I like vent more than TS /shrug |
18:50.26 | Ackis | haven't used it in like a year though |
18:50.27 | Gnarfoz | I don't quite care |
18:50.36 | Ackis | which I think was before TS3 was out |
18:50.36 | durcyn | no seriously do you not know what mumble is, Ackis? |
18:50.44 | Ackis | snarky aren't we Gnarfoz |
18:50.45 | Gnarfoz | (and I don't quite care to pay for vent, even if it was better!) |
18:50.54 | Ackis | no clue durcyn |
18:51.01 | durcyn | then i pity you |
18:51.04 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: says he who randomly comments that "vent > ts" ;p |
18:51.27 | Ackis | TS was terrible when I used it last :P |
18:51.45 | nevcairiel | wth |
18:51.48 | Gnarfoz | not sure what metric you based that on, but whatever |
18:51.59 | nevcairiel | i have to cast "Control Pet" ( a PASSIVE spell) to get the pet bar |
18:51.59 | Ackis | the suckiness metric |
18:52.02 | nevcairiel | soemthing is broken there |
18:52.04 | Ackis | it's on a scale of 1-10 |
18:52.06 | Gnarfoz | and if Mumble wasn't such a PITA to set up and had a UI made by programmers (-> doomed to be crap), we'd be using that |
18:52.16 | Ackis | vent was like 3, TS was 7, Gnarfoz is a 10 :P |
18:52.21 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: your mom can be represented well on that scale, then |
18:52.27 | Fisker | blows up Ackis using bitches |
18:52.36 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: big booty bitches? |
18:52.45 | asmodai | There's still no archeology in-game right now, right? |
18:52.48 | Ackis | I already beat you to the punch on using the suckiness scale against you Gnarfoz |
18:52.54 | sbu | Ackis: try ts3 then |
18:52.59 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: since this isn't a contest: NO U |
18:53.08 | Ackis | NO U U! |
18:53.22 | Gnarfoz | NO U by definition can't be countered, learn your memes |
18:53.24 | Fisker | indeed Gnarfoz |
18:53.32 | Fisker | it can Gnarfoz |
18:53.34 | Fisker | l2meme |
18:53.37 | Gnarfoz | Ackis is the cancer killing #wowace |
18:53.55 | Ackis | sbu: that would require me installing it and more importantly finding some place to chat with |
18:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: blasphemous inventions by newfas =\ |
18:54.11 | Gnarfoz | newfas, the new newfags |
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18:56.33 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
18:56.42 | Fisker | free hax |
18:57.13 | asmodai | Have you seen that Guild achievements tab? |
18:57.24 | asmodai | under dungeon & raids entry there the Legendary one |
18:57.26 | Fisker | your mom is guild achievements |
18:57.38 | asmodai | *yawn* |
18:59.43 | Fisker | zinged |
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19:00.35 | asmodai | No, a bit tired of the pubescent retorts. |
19:01.27 | Fisker | i.e. zinged |
19:01.42 | Ali1331 | your mom is a pubescent retort |
19:01.49 | Fisker | double zinged |
19:03.16 | asmodai | *double yawn* |
19:03.28 | Fisker | madcuzbad |
19:05.23 | pompy | anyone notice the green texture for cleft of shadows on the minimap thats still there? |
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19:06.47 | asmodai | No, not Laird! |
19:06.47 | Torhal | sells pompy back to Ackis for a sammich. |
19:06.49 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
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19:28.15 | asmodai | Hmmm |
19:28.24 | nevcairiel | Hmmm! |
19:28.27 | asmodai | Darkshore sure starts off on a sad note with the first few quests |
19:28.40 | nevcairiel | of course, it suffered badly in the cataclysm |
19:29.07 | asmodai | Yeah, but it's a nice tie in to see them make references to being mortal and all that |
19:30.50 | nevcairiel | i really do wonder why gilneas is so empty today |
19:30.59 | nevcairiel | everyone cant login because they didnt read the file edit trick? |
19:31.13 | asmodai | Yesssss |
19:31.37 | asmodai | Also, I like the Worgen/Night Elf link, it's bound to get more people to Darnassus |
19:33.41 | nevcairiel | wonder if thats final or if they just drop you in there for the beta |
19:35.48 | asmodai | Final for all I saw |
19:36.04 | nevcairiel | i'm at the battle now |
19:36.08 | nevcairiel | joining you in darkshore shortly |
19:36.15 | asmodai | not quite |
19:36.20 | asmodai | there's a bunch of quests after that :P |
19:37.30 | asmodai | lol, Gobber Plump is dead, but there's now a Worgen offering a fishing quests |
19:37.31 | asmodai | quest |
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19:40.04 | pompy | when i lose my internet connection.. hte beta doesnt kill the connection successfully.. im here flying around trying to find something to complete a quest when i realize its doing the "you appear to be in the world but you really arent" :x |
19:40.21 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r567 RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing.lua: #RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing: |
19:40.23 | Repo | - Fixed small typo for defile say message. |
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19:40.58 | nevcairiel | i noticed that too pompy |
19:41.12 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r568 RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing.lua: - .. and forgot to fix it for trap, now fixed. |
19:42.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: You part of the guild with your Worgen? |
19:56.25 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r30 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets (2 files in 1 directory): cosmetic alignment fix of the StatusbarWidget |
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19:58.41 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Ammo * r962 .pkgmeta: remove split and unsplit bat files from .pkgmeta ignore |
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20:18.23 | Ackis | ~lart Torhal |
20:18.23 | purl | strangles Torhal with a 9-pole serial cable |
20:19.25 | pompy | ugh Alien Swarm keeps crashing to the desktop after i load it |
20:21.29 | Yssaril | Swarm > Pompy :P |
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20:27.32 | pompy | apparently i had to install the july 19th client update first lol. now its workin |
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20:37.06 | asmodai | wtf |
20:37.09 | asmodai | Level 14 |
20:37.10 | asmodai | tada |
20:37.16 | asmodai | Big announcement, talent point available |
20:37.20 | asmodai | check talent interface |
20:37.24 | asmodai | Next point available at level 15 |
20:37.27 | asmodai | err, wait, what? |
20:39.13 | Fisker | slaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout |
20:39.23 | steev | wow, rapid fire phish attempts |
20:39.56 | steev | just got 8 in a row |
20:40.27 | NeoTron | asmodai: likely haven't updated the level up messages since the change to 31 pt trees? |
20:42.58 | Torhal | ~multilart Ackis |
20:43.01 | Torhal | Damn it! |
20:54.01 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r569 RaidWatch_Ulduar/Freya.lua: #RaidWatch_Ulduar/Freya: |
20:54.02 | Repo | - Fixed typo. |
20:56.47 | Ackis | ~slapwithbigblackdick Torhal |
20:56.52 | Ackis | darmnit :P |
20:57.48 | Torhal | Wow. You're repressed. |
20:57.49 | Torhal | :D |
20:58.58 | Ackis | and you were just slapped in the face with a penis :) |
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21:05.02 | Torhal | Ackis: No, I wasn't. You fantasized that the event occurred. |
21:05.20 | Torhal | Therefore, you should go renew your WoW sub. |
21:05.23 | Stanzilla | is he still making up things? |
21:05.26 | Stanzilla | like..his penis? |
21:05.49 | Torhal | Ouch. |
21:06.26 | Ackis | Torhal: right now we're thinking of it, but want to pay some bills off first because coming back to wow would require a server transfer and possible faction transfer as well (aka not cheap) |
21:07.39 | Ackis | but then on the other hand I like not being tied down into a game, and probalby wouldn't play because of my Xbox :P |
21:11.00 | asmodai | NeoTron: Must be yea |
21:11.12 | asmodai | NeoTron: I'm again reporting a lot of stuff left 'n right :) |
21:11.13 | asmodai | And yes! |
21:11.23 | asmodai | I did report on Coarse and Fine Thread's icons! |
21:11.25 | Torhal | Ackis: Your blisters have blisters, man. |
21:11.38 | asmodai | is on a mission to get that fixed |
21:12.18 | steev | Left at front door. Package delivered to recipient address - release authorized |
21:12.20 | steev | eeeeeeeee |
21:12.25 | Stanzilla | Fisker: hey soul sister |
21:14.07 | Ackis | I don't get it Torhal |
21:14.15 | Ackis | oh blister from playing xbox :P |
21:21.35 | Torhal | YESSIR! |
21:26.42 | Ackis | but the xbox is superior to wow in so many ways Torhal |
21:27.15 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r31 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets (5 files in 1 directory): |
21:27.17 | Repo | fix a backward compatibility issue with addons still using t[name] = name tables instead of the LSM hash table t[name] = path. (should now give those addons previews of the selections again) |
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21:37.13 | Repo | 10wtetrinet (experimental): 03slaren * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Do not clear boards when someone joins mid-game |
21:43.08 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.263 * r366 : RaidBuffStatus: |
21:43.10 | Repo | - Tagged as stable. |
21:44.19 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.9-2-ga4a78d4 Modules (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Adjusted LSM calls to use the newer apis. Setup LSM30_Sound for Notify module" |
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22:04.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7534 Northrend/Halion.lua: Northrend/Halion: bugfix |
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22:13.50 | ckknight | For AceConfig-3.0 options, for the select type, is there a way to have descriptions for each choice? |
22:14.17 | [Ammo] | you mean separate tooltips? |
22:14.18 | [Ammo] | no |
22:15.14 | ckknight | that seems bad |
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22:33.05 | Repo | 10wtetrinet (experimental): 03slaren * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Autorepeat testing |
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22:50.46 | pompy | d'oh |
22:50.48 | pompy | Berserker Rage is bugged in the current beta build, it's not supposed to require the Berserker Stance. The game shows Berserker Stance in the tooltip but it's still usable in all stances. |
22:53.14 | Primer | Speaking of unicode, anyone know of an addon that puts unicode characters into chat? |
22:53.29 | Primer | from a table where one could click, for example |
22:53.47 | pompy | @project unicodefont |
22:53.47 | Repo | pompy: No project found that matches 'unicodefont' |
22:53.57 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/addons/unicode-font/ |
22:54.00 | pompy | Primer: ^ |
22:54.05 | Primer | thanks |
22:55.39 | Primer | this seems rather overkill |
22:55.49 | Primer | I just want to put shit like ⪠into chat |
22:56.11 | Torhal | @project character-map |
22:56.12 | Repo | Torhal: No project found that matches 'character-map' |
22:56.15 | Torhal | @project charactermap |
22:56.19 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/charactermap/. CharacterMap. Game: WoW. Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Updated: 47 hours ago |
22:56.32 | Torhal | @describe charactermap |
22:56.32 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/charactermap/. CharacterMap. An in-game keyboard of non-standard characters. |
22:56.37 | Primer | thanks |
22:56.45 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1123 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
22:56.47 | Repo | - Fixed unintended globals (to avoid taint issues). Thanks to Dargen for spotting these. |
22:57.10 | Primer | wow, that image hover on wowace is really annoying |
22:57.13 | Primer | in how it follows the mouse |
22:58.46 | durcyn | ugh, recount still has svn:externals set |
23:01.38 | Stanzilla | ckknight: what are you coding? |
23:01.52 | ckknight | Stanzilla: something for Curse |
23:02.00 | Stanzilla | mkay |
23:02.36 | Stanzilla | super secrect project #3 |
23:09.09 | Torhal | Stanzilla: He's coding the new Google homepage. You know, for when Curse buys Google. |
23:09.47 | durcyn | but they'll make it slower! |
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23:49.16 | Thunderofnl | Hey guys, I can't post on the forums :S I made an account but it ekeps asking for me to log in.. and I can;t login with my username and pass.. |
23:49.52 | durcyn | ckknight must've broken something. |
23:50.19 | Thunderofnl | Cry, I wanna start coding my addon lol |