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00:10.08Repo#RaidWatch_Core/Prototypes/Boss:
00:10.09Repo- Updated to use new MPB plugin for health bars.
00:10.10Repo- Changed type("func") to type(func) to properly check for the type of func.
00:10.11Repo#RaidWatch_Core/Core:
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00:13.32Repo- Updated all boss mods that used the old Health Frames to use the new MPB.
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00:19.03orionshock_beta realms back?
00:19.54Groktardon't think so
00:19.58Groktari checked a couple minutes ago
00:20.11Groktari'm hoping for a patch with more rage >.>
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00:28.31Yssarilmmo-champions sais there is a new patch
00:30.29pompyyep
00:30.48pompynot avail for dld just yet tho
00:37.20p3limGuess its available at 11:00
00:37.37p3limAny diffs/changelogs from the new patch yet?
00:37.58Yssarilp3lim: can't download it yet
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00:41.40Repo#RaidWatch_Icecrown:
00:41.41Repo- Using the new MPB for Putricide and LK to mark phase changes.
00:41.43Repo#RaidWatch_RubySanctum/Halion:
00:41.44Repo- Same as for Icecrown + trying to fix so the health bar is working in p2 and p3 in the shadow realm.
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00:47.57ShefkiSo what do you guys think: http://yfrog.com/2d55jp
00:52.43YssarilEvo?
00:53.10ShefkiIt's a cell phone.
00:54.01Yssarilright which one though :P (also looks to shiny for my taste but other than that looks great)
00:54.24Shefkihttp://www.htc.com/us/products/evo-sprint?view=1-1&sort=0
00:54.48Yssarilkk so i was right with "Evo?" :P
00:55.31ShefkiOhh I thought you were asking what an Evo was, since I mentioned it in the original posting under the photo.
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00:56.20YssarilOHHH (didnt even read the message below the photo)
00:56.21ShefkiYeah it is a bit shinnier than I would have liked, but it still came out pretty good.
00:56.54Yssarilwhere did you get the skin from or did you make it yourself?
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00:57.11Shefkiskinit.com printed it.
00:57.17ShefkiArt is from Blizzard.
01:01.15sylvanaarugh wtb beta patch before bedtime
01:10.23NickenyfikenNice Shefki :-)
01:11.33Gnarfozsylvanaar: already 3 hours past bedtime :|
01:14.18NickenyfikenYeah it's 0300 in Swe :-/
01:29.34harlsame here. that's why i'm gonna catch a few hours of sleep now.
01:29.48harlgnite..
01:33.28Shefkisylvanaar: ping
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01:35.00ShefkiYssaril: ping
01:35.05Yssarilpng
01:35.08Yssarilpong
01:35.31ShefkiYour release of your shared media widgets seems to have an issue.
01:35.31Nivso beta is still down then?
01:35.40YssarilShefki: which would be?
01:35.47Shefkilocal AGSMW = LibStub("AceGUISharedMediaWidgets-1.0")
01:36.03Yssariland the problem with that?
01:36.03ShefkiIn FontWidget.lua is error about Cannot find a library ihnstance....
01:36.31Nivso 1.36G, new zones?
01:38.51YssarilShefki: umm that shouldnt be possible because it clearly creates the lib in the prototypes.lua which is loaded before anything else in the widget.xml file
01:39.24Yssarilniv female worgens (they are that detailed)
01:39.43Nivheh
01:39.58NivIt could be music
01:40.00Nivor mob models
01:40.02Nivlots of things
01:40.08YssarilShefki: are you loading it standalone or as part of another mod?
01:40.17ShefkiWas prototypes.lua new?
01:40.23Yssarilyes
01:40.59Shefkinm then, I just didn't exit the game.
01:41.08Yssaril:P
01:41.19ShefkiEww what happened to the textures being previewed in the dropdown?
01:42.14Yssarileverything still gets previewed in the dropdown
01:42.21ShefkiNot here.
01:43.29Shefkihttp://files.shefki.org/ScreenShot_072010_184229.jpeg
01:44.44ShefkiI'm only noticing this stuff because people are complaining that the dropdowns aren't working becuase Prat is shipping with a broken version of your widgetts.
01:45.19ShefkiWhich is why authors need to use tag: latest and library authors need to tag.
01:46.21ShefkiAnyway I'll be back later.
01:49.52YssarilShefki: btw shows up perfectly fine on my end
01:50.14Yssaril(just tested with the release version of AGSMW
01:50.50NickenyfikenJust out of curiosity, what is your favorite LDB bar display addon?
01:51.16Yssarili use Fortress as bar and YssDrop to hide all launchers :)
01:51.40Yssarilthough fortress doesnt make a bar but rather blocks
01:52.26NickenyfikenOk, I guess Fortress is not for me then hmm. But maybe i should give it a try.
01:52.42NickenyfikenHavent tried UssDrop, but i use LauncherMenu.
01:53.52NickenyfikenYssaril: So you have blocks spread out in different places?
01:53.59Yssarilsimmilar in style but YssDrop shows the tooltips of the brokers  (also am bias to it cause i wrote it)
01:54.29YssarilNickenyfiken: each broker is its own block you can move it where you want or stick them together to form a bar or whatever you want
01:55.36NickenyfikenAh nice, will test YssDrop.
01:55.58YssarilShefki: fyi Prat has the prototypes file in it and the widget.xml referes to it so people just need to update i think
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02:03.53NickenyfikenHmm I feel silly to be excited about a WoW beta patch.
02:04.06YssarilNickenyfiken:  lol
02:04.24Megalonthat's just because there is nothing exciting anymore about wotlk ;)
02:05.25NickenyfikenTrue, but I've been away from WoW since 2008 so i should have a lot to do in wotlk
02:06.54NickenyfikenIs InstanceMaps supposed to work with vanilla instances?
02:09.17YssarilNickenyfiken: seams to not really sure what it does though
02:11.43NickenyfikenI thought it was gonna let me outmagically show the map of the instance im currently in :-P
02:12.10Yssarilwhat does it actually do?
02:12.15NickenyfikenWas doing some random vanilla dungeons ony my 52 druid earlier.
02:12.29NickenyfikenNo idea...
02:12.30orionshockstill no beta realm eh?
02:12.42Nickenyfiken"Maps.  Like, for instances." :-P
02:12.45Yssarilorionshock: did you DL th patch yet?
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02:13.56pompyorionshock: 1.36gb patch
02:14.58ArrowmasterNickenyfiken: notice the last time it was updated
02:15.02NickenyfikenWell, when i played in 2008 i used Cartographer but replaced it with Mapster, Cromulent etc. Now i have no idea what the "best" map addon is :-P
02:15.15NickenyfikenArrowmaster: yeah :-/
02:15.16Arrowmasterthere isnt one
02:15.37NickenyfikenHehehe :-)
02:15.43Arrowmasterwrath instances have maps builtin, nobody cares enough to do maps for old instances
02:17.05NickenyfikenI see.
02:17.05Megalonpompy: oh patch already up, kk :>
02:17.06pompyMegalon:  yep :)
02:17.06pompyim at 43%
02:17.06pompylol
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02:18.51Nickenyfiken60 new builds hmm, give me changelog :-P
02:19.56Zynexplodes
02:20.05Zyn~10 mins left ;<
02:20.24Zyngot late to the party due to Alien Swarm
02:21.38NickenyfikenGah, the updater is slower then the download :-P
02:25.17orionshockgrrr... i can't open the beta launcher with the live client open...
02:25.24orionshock>.> time to fudge it
02:29.53Zynactually, I believe you Nickenyfiken ... this IS taking a long time
02:30.09Zynwriting a gazillion files, taking all day
02:31.06NickenyfikenYeah
02:31.16NickenyfikenRight now it is writing a ton of .skin files.
02:32.01Zynand "This service is not available" when I wanna login on the beta forums ò_ó
02:33.15Nivservers are still down
02:34.10NickenyfikenNothing written in Interface\AddOns so far.
02:34.14Zynpatch completed
02:34.48NickenyfikenYou got the game on a SSD or something?
02:35.11Zynno, a crappy ol' SATA drive
02:37.29Nickenyfikenoh
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02:48.57Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r50 : Tagging as 3.3.5
02:51.57Repo10broker_professions: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r42 : Tagging as 3.3.5
02:52.56NickenyfikenOh they removed/combined all patch-x.mpq files in Data folder.
02:53.03NickenyfikenThats why it took so long to patch.
02:53.25kagaromy patch download is ging slow as molasses
02:53.34GnarfozNickenyfiken: it's a cumulative patch
02:53.57Gnarfoz(that's another reason it's so fat)
02:54.07Yssarilkagaro: how fast is yours atm i am between 50-100KB/s
02:54.39kagaro150 - 300k
02:54.47Yssarilcry
02:54.54NickenyfikenGnarfoz: yeah.
02:55.13kagaroslower than normal
02:56.52kagaroits the upstream thats killing me
02:59.01Repo10waitlist: 03durcyn * r50 Waitlist.lua:
02:59.03Repofix ticket #1.  don't get any idea about me actually checking tickets or anything now.
02:59.35Repo10waitlist: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r51 : Tagging as 3.3.5
02:59.46durcynrepo's the only person who talks to me.
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03:02.15kagarowell thats better i stopped and restrated the download and now getting 1.2MB/s
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03:03.38kagarowell boo that was a quick burst of speed and dropped back down the hole again
03:07.31Megalonmhm
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03:23.33pompybeta servers shoud be up
03:23.44Repo10massmailer: 03Necramar * r71 / (3 files in 2 directories):
03:23.45pompyhttp://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/26137186454-maintenance-completed-7-20-2010.html
03:23.46Repo-- Added an option to automatically clear the message box when you send a mail.
03:23.47Repo-- Minor performance enhancements
03:23.49Repo-- Minor bug fixes
03:24.39Repo10massmailer: 03Necramar 04Beta_2.1.1 * r72 :
03:24.41Repo-- Added an option to automatically clear the sent message on mail send
03:24.42Repo-- Minor performance enhancements
03:24.44Repo-- Minor bug fixes
03:24.47Zynbut login is still down
03:25.43Yssarilnow all they need to do is sut down the server again and use its bandwidth to distribute the patch to us
03:26.17DesertDwarfBeta isn't torrent-based like live stuff?
03:26.25Yssarilit is
03:26.49Yssarilbut still if they open up their pipe more than people get it faster :P
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03:31.06koaschtenwhat the flying f*ck .... 5:30am and someone is calling me and hanging up after 2 rings?! and it's a pay service number if i call back? dirty scammers
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03:34.55Xinhuanalien swarm's pretty cool!
03:35.39DesertDwarfOn Steam? My brother just told me it's free right now. He was going to try it and let me know what he thought.
03:36.26Megalonalien swarm is nice yea :>
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03:39.15ZynAlien Swarm is cool, and tried Insane difficulty earlier
03:39.21Zynfirst enemy and I was dead
03:39.22Zyn":|"
03:40.36Megalononly play hard/insane
03:41.07Megalonat least you can't waltz everything solo there
03:41.32Zynsome people think they can
03:41.36Megalonand you just swim in xp :>
03:41.55Zynrandom guy joins, and runs off thinking he's Bruce Willis or something
03:41.57Megalonhehe, on insane you really have to stay together
03:42.03Megalonand need a medic that is on its toes
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03:58.07Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v500-10-g24c719f / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
03:58.09Repo24c719f: Alerts: Fix leaked global. Any messages with localized "YOU" will no longer be
03:58.10Repoac6daa2: Validator: Fix variable typo
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04:10.56orionshockinteresting: "Soul Shards have been removed from the game as items"
04:11.14Prancythats for cata right?
04:11.15CypriasWaiting for files to close.... Waiting for files to close.... Waiting for files to close.... bah
04:11.27NickenyfikenYeah in Cata
04:11.32NickenyfikenServers still down :-(
04:11.50pompyjus login servers!
04:11.53Prancyall the ones we play on at least right?
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04:39.23Groktarbeta wru
04:39.40Zyngives the login servers a slap
04:39.45Mirrormnit's hiding
04:39.54Mirrormnunder the staircase maybe?
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04:40.19Groktarhears Zyn h4x3d the login server
04:40.35ChaosluxWtb mah data minors
04:43.39pompylol, http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/26227722686-realm-really-up.html
04:45.55Nickenyfikenlol?
04:46.25Repo10casualty: 03durcyn * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): touch for repackage, library updates, etc
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04:49.52ZynI'll get it back on its tracks
04:50.41Zyngrabs some audio cables and hotwires them into the ethernet-port, and plays metal as loud as possible
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04:58.34Repo10casualty: 03durcyn 04$1 * r52 : Tagging as 3.3.5
04:58.41durcynshit, script broke
04:59.54Repo10casualty: 03durcyn 043.3.5 * r53 : Tagging as 3.3.5
05:00.42Nickenyfikenhehe
05:00.47Repo10casualty: 03durcyn 04$1 * r54 : clean up bad tag
05:00.57NickenyfikenHaven't played that game durcyn :-/
05:01.13durcynit was one of the best RTSes ever made
05:01.35Nickenyfiken;-)
05:01.51durcynyou'd have these small groups of dwarves throwing grenades at undead hordes, and suddenly something would pop up behind you and start picking them off one by one
05:01.55NickenyfikenGonna install it anyway, sounds like a lot of fun :-)
05:02.05durcynbut during all of this there's no hectic music, just a calm voice saying "casualty"
05:02.20durcynbest ambiance ever.
05:02.25NickenyfikenHaha
05:04.00Nickenyfikenrofl @ mass_casualties.wav
05:04.28NickenyfikenI think I could fall asleep to this.
05:04.32durcynunfortunately it's still under copyright, so that's just vputz with a microphone
05:04.48NickenyfikenYeah but still :-)
05:04.55durcyni had to dig up my old myth CD and extract the audio
05:04.57NickenyfikenDid he try to be as close to the game or?
05:05.03durcynit's pretty close
05:06.45Nickenyfikenhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000
05:07.55NickenyfikenImportant ;-)
05:08.37Megalon11m20 to patch :c
05:08.56Megalonand it freed up 10gb+ hooray!
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05:09.46asmodaiYe gods
05:09.55asmodaiit's not a small patch :|
05:10.20Zyn"The server is currently busy" :<
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05:10.50asmodaiFunny thing is that the name is not a x-to-y patch
05:11.06asmodaiMegalon: That's good to hear.
05:11.06Megalonit is a all-in-one patch
05:11.20Megalonso you can delete the old ones of you keep patches :x
05:11.28asmodaiMegalon: I just started mine and I was like, heuh, only 11% fetched yet? *click* wow, 1.3 GB
05:11.35asmodaiMegalon: Ah, that was my next question :)
05:11.42Megalonlogin server busy!
05:11.51NickenyfikenMmm busy :-/
05:11.58asmodaiMegalon: Since I kept them as I would replace this machine soon and might need to repatch.
05:12.13asmodaiThat's 3GB of old patches going bye bye
05:12.50pompyoh here you go guys
05:12.51pompyhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000
05:13.10pompyNickenyfiken posted that b4
05:14.04asmodaiI wonder if that applies to EU as well -- I guess
05:14.19Megalonyes
05:14.19NickenyfikenWell it is not working for me...
05:14.20Megalonit does
05:14.27NickenyfikenIm on EU
05:14.39asmodaiMegalon: Yeah, missed the German reference
05:17.09asmodaiNickenyfiken: Ehrm, servers are in maintenance until 11:00
05:17.53NickenyfikenSo the logon server used is still the live one in EU?
05:17.56NickenyfikenConfusing.
05:18.36pompynice it worked for me
05:19.06NickenyfikenI mean the realmlist is set to public-beta.logon.battle.net, the same as for US.
05:19.44asmodaimakes a difference:
05:19.49asmodaipublic-beta.logon.battle.net. 42214 IN  A       12.129.236.252
05:19.53asmodaipublic-test.logon.battle.net. 86400 IN  A       12.129.236.251
05:20.12Zyninstant "You have been disconnected from the server" when logging in from EU
05:20.14Zyn¯\(°_o)/¯ !
05:21.18NickenyfikenYeah but they never said we should change the set realmlist, only set portal.
05:21.43asmodaiI know -- just pointing out that you will connect to different IPs if you do
05:21.51Zyn"This service is not available"
05:21.58asmodaiIt's maintenance anyway
05:22.35Nickenyfikenpublic-test.logon.battle.net is for PTR?
05:23.52asmodaiI guess so.
05:24.01NickenyfikenAnyway, funny how they can make such a mistake. Maybe they wan't less load on the server for a couple of days :-P
05:24.39durcynapparently there's a bug with worgen faces too, every single person is busy making terrible "my worgen has no nose, how does he smell, terrible, etc etc" jokes
05:27.55Nickenyfikenlol
05:29.10ShefkiYssaril: The current release version of Prat has the version of your widgets that has the number issue in it.
05:29.37ShefkiYssaril: That's what people were complaining about, the error I got was when I installed your release version in order to see if it fixed the problem and I didn't exit wow figuring you'd done minor changes.
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05:38.36Zynbest part ... public-beta.logon.battle.net returns it can't be reached nor pinged
05:38.58asmodaiBlizzard has disallowed ICMP ping for a looong time now.
05:39.09sbumorning
05:39.17sbuZyn: telnet port 1119
05:39.21sbu(iirc)
05:39.33sbu1.3gb, wtf did they do
05:39.40asmodaisbu: EVERYTHINK!
05:39.50Zynwhatever I try, "The login server is busy" ;<
05:39.53DesertDwarf<PROTECTED>
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05:40.06sbulogin server busy AGAIN? *sigh* :(
05:40.09DesertDwarfsbu: This supercedes all the old patches.
05:40.12sbuso we are going to get this after each patch now
05:40.16sbui see
05:40.36durcynum
05:40.44DesertDwarfThey also rolled in some 3.3.5 live changes like Real ID.
05:40.46sbuoh battle.net in there
05:40.56sbuso i can finally chat with live realms?
05:41.27Shefkisbu: Unlikely, they hadn't wiped the patch set since alpha started.
05:41.28pompysbu: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000 try that
05:41.29ZynI wonder if my account is completely fucked
05:41.34ZynUS maintenance = can't login
05:41.41ZynEU maintenane = can't login
05:41.46Zynsomething else = can't login
05:41.50DesertDwarfsbu: I dunno. I'm not a tester and I haven't seen anybody on yet that mentions if they can do that.
05:41.51Shefkisbu: This probably resets the patch set so that our hard drives have less old crap sitting around on them.
05:41.54sbupompy: still patching
05:42.01asmodaiZyn: try logging into battle.net website?
05:42.04Zyncan't
05:42.10sbuuh...
05:42.12Zyn"The service is unavailable"
05:42.16asmodaiGuess they went down for maintenance too then.
05:42.18DesertDwarfShefki: I'm told this update is a complete one, not a roll-up.
05:42.41sbu500kb/s download rate....
05:42.54ShefkiDesertDwarf: If it's complete shouldn't that get rid of the 6 patch.MPQs we've got?
05:43.30asmodaiYes.
05:43.34NickenyfikenAll patch-x.mpq files have been merged to only two
05:43.47Nickenyfikenpatch-2.mpq and patch.mpq
05:43.51asmodaiShefki: That's what Megalon said at least
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05:44.32sbubah netlimiter, windows 7 is not supported :p
05:44.35Shefkisbu: Generally they don't have a way of removing files when they patch.  They simply keep adding a new patch.MPQ every major patch and add more crap to it.
05:44.52ShefkiSo if textures or other large files are reworked, then you'll end up with the old copy + new copies on your HD.
05:44.59pompyhttp://i27.tinypic.com/4fwf3q.jpg bah that editbox texture is always showing
05:45.23ShefkiFor patching live copies of the game this isn't a huge issue because they don't tend to rework textures they added in a patch.
05:46.00ShefkiWhat they can do however, is wipe out the patch set and give you a new patch set with only current copies.
05:46.13ShefkiWhich is what it appears that they are doing.
05:46.17asmodaiShefki: Got to look cooking patches
05:46.21asmodais/look/love/
05:46.59Megalonat least blizzards system also works after a fuckton of patches
05:47.27ShefkiMegalon: I don't think it's a particularly good system to be honest.
05:47.58asmodaiShefki: But wouldn't a full xdelta generate as much binary patch data in this case as simply redownloading the new patchset?
05:48.01ShefkiIt's rather wasteful of space.
05:48.24pompythis patch knocked off 10 gigs of the beta folder
05:48.35Shefkiasmodai: I'm not really concerned about how big the download is.
05:48.43ShefkiI'm more conerned by how big the data on my HD is.
05:49.03asmodaiShefki: *nod*
05:49.08ShefkiWith a live install the only time they remove data is at an expansion.
05:49.10Megalon10gb less after that patch ;x
05:49.18ShefkiThere are dead files in the live install.
05:49.26Shefkiseems silly not to have a way to remove files.
05:49.28asmodaiShefki: Reminds me of http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1199353-software-engineering-file-formats-build-processes-packaging.html
05:49.32pompyt was 36gigs b4 todays patch , and now its 25.5g
05:49.44FiskerOMG THEY STOLE YOUR BETA
05:49.47Fiskeryes it is sbu
05:49.48Fiskerl2p
05:49.52sbuheh?
05:49.56asmodaiFisker: At least we *have* a beta. :P
05:50.03sbuasmodai: he also has beta
05:50.07asmodaiSince when?
05:50.10Fiskernetlimiter supports windows 7
05:50.18Fiskersince forever asmodai
05:50.22Fiskeri was in the F&F
05:50.30asmodaiFisker: You're not worthy!
05:50.32ShefkiFrom a paranoid point of view always adding is probably really safe, but it seems ridiculously wasteful of users hard drive space.
05:50.48FiskerQQ?
05:50.50asmodaiShefki: Disk space is cheap ;)
05:51.07Shefkiasmodai: As a SVN developer I used to buy into that mantra.
05:51.24Groktarkeke @ warrior version of consecrate
05:51.25Megalonthat's weird Fisker
05:51.26ShefkiI learned later that the mantra is BS.
05:51.50ShefkiDisk space is cheap but that doesn't mean you should be wasteful of it.
05:51.52Megalonbecause you have neither friends, nor family that would acknowledge being akin to you
05:52.08asmodaiShefki: True.
05:52.09Groktartoo bad i can only have one thunderstruck spot at a time :(
05:52.12Fiskeror maybe i do Megalon
05:52.28ZynFisker gonna fisk
05:52.28Jinivus|atWorkdances
05:52.32Shefkiasmodai: SVN makes the huge assumption that keeping a plain text copy of the item in the working copy is a-ok.
05:52.41ShefkiThe argument is "Hey diskspace is cheap"
05:52.41asmodaiShefki: Hailing from the glorious age of the MSX, ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64 and such machines I know all about squeezing the last bits and bytes out of things :)
05:52.47Megalondick Fisker
05:53.02ShefkiThat's great until you have someone trying to work with a multi-gig file under version control.
05:53.05Fiskersuck it Megalon
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05:53.08Fisker*unzips*
05:53.38Megalonsuck what? nothing there
05:53.55Fiskeryou said so yourself that there was
05:53.59bluspacecow;)
05:54.03bluspacecowlolz
05:54.14Megalonsaid what
05:54.17Megaloni said kill yourself
05:54.19Fiskeryour mom
05:54.19asmodaiShefki: multi-gig file? XML?
05:54.20Megalonnothing more
05:54.35asmodaiMegalon: Private dick Fisker? or just dick? ;)
05:54.59Megaloni don't care if he suicides in private
05:55.02Shefkiasmodai: Actually, I believe some of the big complainers were people that were putting large graphic files in SVN.
05:55.03Megalonas long as he does
05:55.15Megalonbut it will be more cheerful if it'd be streamed of course
05:55.30ShefkiAnd before you say "Why would you do that."
05:55.53asmodaiShefki: But SVN was, from the getgo, always advertised as being insufficient for binary data.
05:55.54ShefkiSVN handles binary files just fine.  Sure the built in diff tool isn't useful but having versions for that type of file is useful.
05:56.00Shefkiasmodai: No it wasn't.
05:56.05ShefkiQuite the opposite.
05:56.13Shefkiit handles binary data perfectly file.
05:56.23ShefkiIt even does xdeltas on them.
05:56.28asmodaiThat's odd, because I could remember the advise to always be to not store binary data in it.
05:56.40asmodaiwould have to ask sussman about it again
05:56.41ShefkiNo the advise is not to store generated data.
05:56.55asmodaiis to not store?
05:57.20ShefkiSay you have a file that is produced by a program from some other file.
05:57.24ShefkiYou shouldn't put that in SVN.
05:57.26asmodaiYeah I know.
05:57.32ShefkiYou should put the file that produces it in SVN.
05:57.36asmodaiYou only rack up deltas.
05:57.59ShefkiBut there are binary files that don't have source files.
05:58.10ShefkiAnd you're perfectly right in putting them in SVN.
05:58.21asmodaiI wonder if my advise came from much earlier SVN time.
05:58.32asmodaiShefki: you used SVN during the 0.x releases as well?
05:58.47ShefkiOhh yes.
05:59.00ShefkiI have an 8810 shirt.
05:59.04asmodailol
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05:59.26asmodaiWas that the selfhosting revision?
05:59.32Shefki1.0 rev
05:59.36asmodaiAh
05:59.54ShefkiOnly devs have them that were on the project pre-1.0
06:01.25asmodaiDidn't know you were a svn dev.
06:01.55asmodaiI talked a lot on the svn dev channel with sussman, kfogel, and the others
06:02.30Nickenyfiken"Those experiencing the "Login server is busy" error should theoretically be able to login in eventually, but it's possible something will prevent those with this message to not be able to login." hahahahaha :-P
06:02.55durcynor they could fix their realmlist and purge their dns caches like rational sane human beings
06:03.40bluspacecow>_>
06:03.43bluspacecowwow players ? rational ?
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06:18.12Groktari didn't have to purge my dns cache
06:18.44ShefkiI don't really understand why people think purging dns cache is useful for wow anyway.
06:18.56ShefkiWoW doesn't use DNS except for the initial login server which almost never changes.
06:19.35ShefkiWow has an internal system for giving you the ip address of a realm you want to connect to.
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06:20.18ShefkiWhenever you connect to wow it retrieves a list of realms and their ids.
06:20.31durcynuh, this beta push changed the dns for the login server.
06:20.38durcynQED,
06:20.42ShefkiThen you you go to connect to a specific realm it requests the ip address of the id of the realm and the login server gives it to you.
06:20.47Kalrothlol
06:21.37Shefkidurcyn: I thought it changed the hostname entirely?
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06:22.05durcynmy understanding is that they changed the cname for logon-test to the former address of logon-beta
06:23.02durcyni have no proof of this on hand, though
06:23.20durcynnever really felt the need to make note of what said cnames resolved to
06:24.19ShefkiHoly crap battle.net has a ridiculous ttl
06:24.38ShefkiOhh nm, that's reasonable.
06:24.45ShefkiI was thinking that was one week, it's one dayy.
06:25.08ShefkiUnless someone was playing right until they took servers down the cache should be expired anyway.
06:26.07durcynnot all caching servers honor TTLs these days, but fair point
06:26.27durcynanyway i don't see any fault in including that in a list of debugging steps
06:26.50ShefkiIn the big scheme of things though it really doesn't do much for WoW generally.
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06:27.01durcynI'm not disputing that
06:27.03ShefkiIn this case it might help.
06:27.28ShefkiBut I see people recommending that to people all the time.
06:27.36ShefkiNot just in this case.
06:27.52FiskerShefki
06:27.53Fiskerdurcyn
06:27.55Fiskerbitches.
06:27.56Fiskerthat is all
06:27.57durcynFisker
06:28.01durcynyou're a nice guy
06:28.05Fiskerno.
06:28.05durcynI like you.
06:28.08Fiskerno.
06:28.19ShefkiFisker, go die in a fire or something. :P
06:28.19durcynwill you be my Real ID friend?
06:28.37Fiskerno.
06:28.41Fiskeri won't Shefki
06:28.45ShefkiYet another thing you fail at.
06:30.07ShefkiGnarfoz: ping
06:30.20FiskerGnarfoz raep
06:30.30ShefkiHelps if you spell it right.
06:32.00bluspacecowfisker should change his name to frisker
06:32.34Fiskeri wish
06:32.39FiskerShefki i did spell it right
06:32.50ShefkiDid not.
06:33.05Fiskeri did
06:33.34ShefkiIncorrect.
06:34.00FiskerIncorrect.
06:34.39Torhalgives Fisker a Nimbus.
06:34.51Fiskeri wish
06:35.51Shefkishows fisker how to use rot13.
06:36.07Fiskerknows how to use rot13
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06:41.35Adirellecan't seen any damn difference between 12539 and 12479 on mmo-champ
06:42.27Fiskerold
06:43.00ChaosluxWtb Diffs like he always do on ptr patches, even if its a huge one :<
06:44.25Megalondouble rot13's Fisker
06:45.24ElkanoI extracted the old framexml, so once I have patched I could diff with the new at least
06:45.50Elkanobtw, Adirelle, I dropped you a ticket ^^
06:46.14sylvanaarShefki: do i need to rebuild prat or something?
06:46.35Torhaldrops a ticket on Fisker "it dun werk"
06:46.52sylvanaarwhen does Fisker sleep?
06:47.48AdirelleElkano, seen that, was quite busy yesterday
06:48.24Shefkisylvanaar: Wait.
06:48.32Shefkisylvanaar: his widgets are still screwed up.
06:48.37sylvanaaroh ok
06:48.39FiskerShefkimen
06:48.41sylvanaari can wait
06:48.44ShefkiThe dropdown list isn't previewing textures.
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06:48.48ShefkiHe says it's fixed but it isn't.
06:49.05ShefkiI'm debugging it now.
06:49.08sylvanaaryay beta patch, anyone know whats in it
06:49.19ShefkiFemale Worgen supposedly.
06:49.26sylvanaarnice
06:49.33ShefkiRealID
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06:49.42sylvanaarno
06:49.43sylvanaarreally?
06:49.44Shefkiand other crap that was in Live.
06:49.49sylvanaarhahahaha
06:50.00ShefkiThey've pulled in the stuff on Live that was in beta.
06:50.03sylvanaarok, they need to enable addons soon then
06:50.05Shefkiwasn't*
06:50.12ShefkiWhy?
06:50.29sylvanaarbecause i need clique
06:50.33YssarilShefki: yea idk they show up fine for me
06:50.42ShefkiYssaril: Well this is what I can tell you.
06:50.48ShefkiI added a print to ToggleDrop()
06:51.01ShefkiAnd it's showing the texture path as being set to just the name of the texture.
06:51.12ShefkiYou sure you don't have some uncommitted local change?
06:51.34ShefkiLooks like it's getting them from the self.list[k]
06:51.35YssarilShefki: i tried it with the live version and i dont see how that could even happen
06:51.51Shefki[23:47:52] loop: Striped Striped Striped
06:51.58Shefkiprint('loop:',k,self.list[k],statusbar)
06:52.07sylvanaaranyone have a direct download for the ptr patch?
06:52.25Shefki^ Added between the statusbar = line and the SetTexture line in the ToggleDrop() function.
06:52.47YssarilShefki: which addon are you testing with?
06:52.52ShefkiPB4
06:53.04Yssarilis it happening in any other addon?
06:53.33Yssarilcheck omen if you have it
06:54.04ShefkiHmm it's working with Omen and Quartz.
06:54.13ShefkiBut I don't see what we're doing that would have anything to do with this.
06:54.19Yssarilalright how are you setting your list in pitbull?
06:55.40ShefkiFound the problem, however this used to work fine.
06:55.53Yssarilwhat was the problem?
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06:56.03Shefkit[k] = k
06:56.19Yssarilhmm that should have never worked 9i think)
06:56.33ShefkiIt did. :)
06:56.46ShefkiMaybe you just ignored the value before.
06:56.51ShefkiOhh hang on.
06:56.59ShefkiWe don't store the texture path.
06:57.06ShefkiWe just store the texture name.
06:57.12ShefkiSo our usage is right.
06:57.33ShefkiYou really shouldn't be using the keys as the texture.
06:57.47Shefkior rather I mean the values.
06:58.18ShefkiAnd addons probably shouldn't be storing the texture path.
06:58.18YssarilShefki: hmm i could always pull the path from LSM
06:58.27ShefkiKinda defeats the point of LSM.
06:58.44YssarilShefki: right now you can just toss Media:HashTable("font") at the widget and it accepts it
06:59.16ShefkiWe expect our statusbar to be a name of a LSM statusbar texture.
06:59.23ShefkiThe stored key.
06:59.52ShefkiSo we do: for k in pairs(LibSharedMedia:HashTable("statusbar")) do t[k] = k end return t
07:00.56Yssarilyou create a table and then toss it at the widget?
07:01.02ShefkiYes.
07:01.14Yssarildon't just toss Media:HashTable("font") directly
07:01.19ShefkiHang on.
07:02.49ShefkiI don't know why we were doing what we were doing.
07:02.53ShefkiThe key is what is set anyway.
07:03.18Yssarilexactly
07:03.33Yssarilits been that way since May last year :)
07:04.08ShefkiProbably just didn't have a newer version of your widgets so never noticed it.
07:04.29Yssarilhehe
07:07.19YssarilShefki: i actually want to keep using the name, path structure cause then you could use it to create a dropdown for stuff that isn't in LSM :P
07:08.39ShefkiAhh I see why we were doing that.
07:09.13Shefkiif k == default then t[k] = ("%s (Default)"):format(k) else t[k] = k end
07:09.18Yssarilnot that anyone is doing that right now or ever will but its there (could be for some sort of icon selection list i guess)
07:09.59YssarilShefki: still shouldn't matter options wise though right?
07:10.22ShefkiI don't think it ever actually worked to display (Default)
07:10.28ShefkiBut that's how we got that code.
07:10.28Yssarilhehe
07:10.39ShefkiBecause it was just copied and pasted to where I found the other code.
07:10.48ShefkiAnd had the default stuff removed for the default editor.
07:11.40Yssarilsylvanaar: yea could you repackage prat? (there was a bug in the AceGUI SharedMedia widgets last time you did)
07:11.51sylvanaarsure
07:12.05sylvanaaris it fixed now
07:12.17Shefkisylvanaar: Yeah it's fine.
07:12.25Shefkisylvanaar: Turns out my issue was a ckknight bug.
07:12.49Yssarilsylvanaar: was fixed a while ago actually :)
07:13.20TorhalShefki: Someone should really patch ckknight, then.
07:13.38ShefkiYeah I just noticed it today becasue people were complaining about the error it was causing when they were trying to select textures in PB4 and someone said it only happened when they had Prat installed.
07:13.52Shadowedoh Shefki, has anyone complained about halion corpsomething auras?
07:14.13ShefkiNot that I've seen, what do you mean by that?
07:14.28ShadowedDunno, just had someone report that his debuff wasn't showing up, but I'm pretty sure it's just user error
07:14.33Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r522 Prat-3.0.toc:
07:14.33Repotouch to repackage to pick up AceGUI SharedMedia widgets fix
07:14.41ShefkiShadowed: I haven't seen any complaints about that.
07:14.45Shadoweduser error it is
07:14.47ShefkiShadowed: It's also possible it was a blizzard side bug.
07:14.53Shadowedclose enough!
07:14.58ShefkiShadowed: I've seen auras bug out many times.
07:15.04ShefkiMy favorite is the double aura bug.
07:15.15ShefkiWhere every single aura someone has is returned twice.
07:15.15ShadowedI don't think I've ever had that one
07:15.24ShefkiIt's pretty rare.
07:15.30ShefkiBut I've seen it a handful of times.
07:15.31YssarilShadowed: you know secure frame stuff why doesnt http://paste.wowace.com/2231/ work? (only ever creates one child (UnitButton) but doesnt anchor it to anything)
07:15.40ShefkiAnd verified that UnitAura() is returning them like that.
07:16.18ShefkiYssaril: What isn't working?
07:16.32Shadowedprobably cause you set groupFilter to ""
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07:16.38Shadowedtry setting it to 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
07:16.48ShefkiOr just don't set it.
07:16.52Shadowedor that
07:17.25ShadowedAlso unless you need to allow hooking of your functions, there is no reason to delay secure frame creation till PLAYER_LOGIN
07:17.30Shadowedyou can do it at ADDON_LOADED fine
07:18.42Yssarilwhoot not setting it works :)
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07:20.21YssarilShadowed: i have that in my addon template that way when i make a new addon in case i need PlayerLogin (havent really decedid what to do yet with the addon so i'll move the init stuff to AL if i can later)
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07:20.43Shadowedah
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07:21.48Yssarilif my idea for this one works out it could be very interesting :)
07:22.30Yssarilgot to learn to crawl before i can run though (first time really dealing with the dynamic secure stuff)
07:25.32Repo10amc: 03S1nless * r87 AtlasMajorCities.toc: Tagging as v1.5.2
07:25.58Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta10-1-g0816482 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix our usage of the SharedMedia widgets so the previews actually show.
07:26.15YssarilShefki: did you fix all of them?
07:26.22ShefkiYes.
07:26.27Yssarilwoot :)
07:26.34Shadowedwhat broke?
07:26.36Shefki(4 files in 2 directories)
07:26.44Repo10amc: 03S1nless 04v.1.5.2 * r88 : Tagging as v.1.5.2
07:26.45YssarilShadowed: cosmetic fix :)
07:26.53ShefkiShadowed: ckknight was using the SharedMedia widgets wrong, so they broke.
07:26.57Shadowedoh
07:27.07Shadowed... question
07:27.11Shadowedhow could he possibly use them wrong
07:27.19ShefkiScroll up.
07:27.40Yssarilnot reading the documentation and way back in the beginning they worked a little bit different
07:28.15asmodaiyawns
07:29.01Shadowedoh
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07:29.29ShefkiShadowed: There was a certain logic to it, but it got duplicated into lots of places from copy and paste.
07:29.45ShefkiNot that the intent of the logic ever actually worked.
07:30.30YssarilShefki: how do you like the new widgets btw?
07:30.55sbubaaaah
07:30.57sbulogin server busy
07:31.08ShefkiLooks fine to me.
07:31.13Yssarilsbu did you do http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26227632749&sid=2000?
07:31.19sbuyea
07:31.41Shefkisylvanaar: You need to tag, your release version is the one with the broken libs sadly.
07:32.26Shefkisylvanaar: No idea if you're ready for that.  But you could just tag another release from your old tag and get the needed effect if you're not ready for your alpha code to be a release.
07:33.10Shefkisvn cp svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/prat-3-0/mainline/{tags/3.3.22,tags/3.3.23}
07:33.39ShefkiAssuming bash (don't think that works in other shells)
07:35.25sbuokay working now
07:36.20sbumh, so guild ui is still disabled :p
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07:40.17sbuso now you have 38 talent points at level 80
07:40.47Megalonoh, beta now has realid friends, hooray!
07:41.20sbubut i cant see my "live" realid friends ;)
07:41.37Shefkisbu: Different account.
07:41.39Fiskerold Megalon
07:41.46sbuShefki: oh, right
07:41.50Megalonyes i am Fisker
07:41.52sbuShefki: but still works with live?
07:41.55Fiskernot different account Shefki
07:41.58Fiskerdifferent region
07:42.10ShefkiFisker: Actually you're on a different wow account.
07:42.16Fiskeryes but it doesn't matter
07:42.17Megalonrealid
07:42.20Megalonis bnet account
07:42.20Fiskerthat you're on a different region does
07:42.35ShefkiDoes RealID settings actually cross wow accounts?
07:42.38Fiskeryes
07:42.41Fiskernot regions
07:48.09sbuyay
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08:08.07asmodaiOwww, Siggraph next week
08:08.19Fiskerno
08:08.19Fiskeru
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08:13.57sbuhehe, pally beacon changed again :p
08:14.13sbu(nerfed!!! :P)
08:20.48Nivgood
08:20.51Nivit needs to be
08:20.58NivI can have perm 40% dmg reduction and 100% block assuming I have enough rage to maintain it
08:21.02Nivgogo beta :P
08:21.09Nivof course my rage gen is still fucking terrible
08:23.18sbuNiv: yup, 50% heal on beacon target is more appropriate - its just crazy to have all you heal doubled...´
08:24.17Aens|Superioritythunderclap is now a short duration consecrate. neat.
08:24.26Aens|Superioritywhen talented that is
08:25.40Zynsilly Worgen voices and phrases D:
08:31.19NivAens|Superiority: I guess that's their solution to streaming mos
08:31.21Nivmobs*
08:33.56sbubtw ragnaros quest still bugged
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08:34.24sbui could start it, then cenarius died and thats it...
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08:55.21koaschtenbeta not up again?
08:55.31koaschtencan't log :/
08:59.50ramozFFFUUU~~ gimme wowservers
09:00.04ramozi wanna game on my day off
09:00.46koaschtenscratch that, the realmlist.wtf edit from public-beta to public-test worked
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09:12.43vhaarranyone got a download location for the latest beta patch?
09:13.43Elkanotorrent was fine for me...
09:13.57vhaarrwell I wouldn't be asking if it was fine for me, would I?
09:14.04Nivmaybe you would
09:14.48Elkanoin case you have a local ftp running I could push it to you (enGB that is)
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09:35.14koaschtenI wonder why the patch was 1.36gb ...
09:36.02Elkanocause it's a full patch for all previous builds
09:36.27Elkanowill get rid of most of the patch-x.mpqs and thus free ~10GB hd space ^^
09:41.43digmouse|workan epic patch cleaner yay
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09:43.34asmodaiheya Elkano
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09:55.46Adirelle|workdo they fixed the guild ui ?
09:56.09sbunope
09:57.42Adirelle|workerf
09:58.00Adirelle|workit looked like they did, since there is a tonshit of update to guild ui files
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10:02.06Wobinhttp://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100720.html
10:02.08Wobinwoah
10:02.35sbui want that in 1920x1200 :p
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10:27.54ramoz~wowalert
10:27.55purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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10:30.05ShefkiIs it just me or does wowprogramming.com not work for anyone else anymore?
10:31.11ShefkiIf I telnet to port 80 of it and do a GET by hand it spits out the headers with a Content-Length of 0 and no data.
10:31.44WobinShefki: works fine for me
10:32.08asmodaiwhat he said
10:32.55ShefkiI get the same result from my phone.
10:36.25asmodaiAs in doesn't work?
10:36.41ShefkiYup.
10:36.54ShefkiZero bytes of content.
10:37.15Elkanomaybe they blocked you 'cause they don't like you anymore?
10:38.16ShefkiAnd there now it loads again.
10:38.24ShefkiMust be some sort of server issue.
10:42.18asmodaiShefki: round robin system with one bad server in between?
10:42.24asmodaior some other load balancing system
10:42.59ShefkiDoubt linode has anything that sophistocated.
10:46.08ShefkiAnd it's supposedly running lighttpd/1.4.19 which interestingly has a known DoS attack against it.
10:46.14ShefkiHopefully it's patched.
10:46.42jnwhitehwowprogramming.com works just fine
10:46.48jnwhitehand I'm running the latest version of lighttpd in debian
10:46.57jnwhitehand you shoudl probably just ask me next time
10:47.00jnwhitehrather than musing about it =)
10:47.15Shefkijnwhiteh: Well obviously it wasn't working earlier.
10:47.21jnwhiteh'obviously'?
10:47.24jnwhitehnothing's changed
10:47.28ShefkiDon't be an ass.
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10:47.32jnwhitehI'm not being an ass
10:47.39ShefkiI didn't just imagine not getting any response from the webserver.
10:47.50ShefkiOr I should say content.
10:48.11jnwhitehI'm not saying you are
10:48.31jnwhitehany number of things could have happened.
10:49.19ShefkiAnd it just did it again.
10:49.26ShefkiPage load with no content.
10:49.40ShefkiBut a successful response code.
10:50.57jnwhitehI've never seen this, so I'm not sure how best to help.
10:51.33Shefkijnwhiteh: I'd probably look at your logs and/or poke your hosting provider.
10:51.42jnwhitehthere's no hosting provider, its my box.
10:51.47jnwhitehand the logs indicate no issues
10:52.02jnwhitehhence why I'm trying to figure something out
10:52.39ShefkiAddress: http://www.wowprogramming.com/
10:52.46ShefkiSize: 0 KB (0 bytes)
10:53.04jnwhitehthat's not the address of the site
10:53.08jnwhitehfor one..
10:53.35jnwhitehso its serving an empty page
10:53.43jnwhitehthe redirect must have gotten borked.
10:53.45ShefkiYou don't have a redirect for www. ?
10:53.50jnwhitehI did
10:53.53jnwhitehit changed, obviously
10:54.50jnwhitehfixed
10:54.56jnwhitehtold you there was a reasonable explanation =)
10:55.05ShefkiI didn't say there wasn't.
10:55.13ShefkiI was just saying there was a problem.
10:55.16jnwhitehand I didn't say that you said there wasn't.
10:55.17jnwhitehjesus.
10:55.23jnwhitehwhy are you so wound tight today?
10:55.37jnwhitehI appreciate the report, thank you.
10:55.42ShefkiYou're the difficult one, you're always difficult to talk to.
10:55.51jnwhiteh...
10:55.53ShefkiI say there's obviously a problem.
10:55.58ShefkiYou say 'obviously'?
10:56.19jnwhitehWell, you said it didn't work one second and worked the next
10:56.23jnwhitehYOU changed something
10:56.31jnwhitehI wanted to get to the root of the issue
10:56.46jnwhitehBelieve what you want to believe
10:56.55jnwhitehI think you're reading way too much into what I'm saying
10:57.44jnwhitehand reading ill-intent where you think there is some
10:57.57jnwhitehI'm not quite sure what you have against me, but I'm happy to talk about it when we both have time
10:58.49Shefkijnwhiteh: Take this how you will but you act as if everyone elses results are wrong.
10:59.26jnwhitehI think that's a matter of your perception, but thank you for the feedback.
10:59.32jnwhitehI said one work that's objectionable in this conversation
10:59.35jnwhiteh'obviously'
11:00.02jnwhitehAnd it was not obvious to me at that point that there was anything consistently wrong.. which could point to any number of issues
11:00.12jnwhitehyou yourself were giving inconsistent results, and everyone else was able to access the site just fine.
11:00.41jnwhitehIn the end, your testing was not rigorous, and I made a configuration change that was incorrect and interacted in a bad way with the way you were requesting the site.
11:01.10jnwhiteh'obviously' something was wrong with the way your interactions with the website were going, and it's my fault, and I've corrected it.
11:01.30jnwhitehThat does not mean there is something 'obviously' wrong with the website, since you were the only one who was reporting it, and that report was itself not consistent.
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11:02.18jnwhitehI'm glad that you're able to make such judgements about me from the limited contact we've had over the internet.
11:02.27ShefkiProbably because I'm using Chrome which has a habit of sticking www. in front of things for you.
11:02.31jnwhiteh(that was sarcasm, I think it's unfortunate)
11:02.37jnwhitehI also use Chrome
11:02.52jnwhitehI'm not saying anything is your fault
11:02.56jnwhitehso there's no reason to get defensive.
11:03.32ShefkiI think I've talked enough with you to have made some conclusions about you.
11:03.35jnwhitehWe've talked like 15 times
11:04.07ShefkiEvery single time I've ever talked to you about something I've walked away with the impression that you're difficult to work with.
11:04.25jnwhitehyet I've helped you in every single case
11:04.28jnwhitehquite literally
11:04.51jnwhitehPerhaps you're mistaking my urge to ensure I understand a problem properly with me questioning you. I could certainly see how that could be the case.
11:05.06jnwhitehBut I can't help but feel you're reading animosity into emotionless words on the internet.
11:05.20jnwhitehI have been angry before, and I have attacked people.. and I'm fairly confident that that's never happened with you.
11:05.26jnwhitehBeen there, done that, got the t-shirt.
11:05.44jnwhitehSo the posts I've made for you, the reports I've made to Blizzard, the changes I've made to my addons.
11:05.49jnwhitehAll of that is 'difficult to work with'
11:06.20ShefkiSomeone can be difficult to work with and still get work done.
11:06.25jnwhitehYou've asked questions and asked me to make changes multiple times now without clearly explaining the problem. When that happens, what am I supposed to do other than ask for further clarification.
11:06.29ShefkiThe two are not mutually exclusive concepts.
11:06.32jnwhitehOf course not
11:06.51jnwhitehI'm not so much of an idiot that I'm unaware of that fact
11:07.53jnwhitehI honestly suggest you re-read this conversation again.
11:07.58jnwhitehAnd tell me who is the one who is being openly hostile.
11:08.06jnwhitehHere's a hint, from where I'm sitting, it's not me.
11:08.13jnwhitehI said ONE word that you found objectionable
11:08.18jnwhitehand I regret not further clarifying why I said it.
11:08.59ShefkiMy reactions to you are obviously colored by my past experiences with you.
11:09.09jnwhitehI'm sorry, but that's your problem.
11:09.31jnwhitehsince there's clearly nothing I can do to fix or resolve that
11:09.47jnwhitehand I'm already starting from negative karma in your social hierarchy
11:10.02jnwhitehbut if I don't know that, how can I temper what I'm saying to avoid upsetting you further?
11:10.18jnwhitehSounds like I'm in a sure-lose position
11:11.22jnwhitehThank you for your help resolving the configuration issue on wowprogramming.com. It's unfortunate that some people might have received an empty page in response to their request, and I'll try to avoid making changes like that in the future.
11:12.10jnwhitehIf you have suggestions for how I can be less 'difficult', please feel free to let me know off-channel and I'll certainly take your feedback into consideration.
11:14.03sztanpetbitches
11:20.24Megalonjnwhiteh is butthurt because Shefki said bad things about his lighthttpd
11:20.24Megalon:(
11:20.50jnwhitehI'm fairly resilient, I suspect I'll be able to cope.
11:20.57ShefkiI didn't say anything bad, I said that version has a DoS exploit against it if it ISN'T PATCHED.
11:21.23ShefkiI'm gonna guess it is since he sayys he's using the debian package.
11:21.45jnwhitehthere is a security update repository specifically for that
11:22.00jnwhitehI'll of course be looking at it later, but I'm not terribly concerned with a DDOS of wowprogramming.com
11:22.27Wobinjnwhiteh will backtrace any attack =P
11:23.03jnwhitehI was more concerned about what I feel is a somewhat unfair characterization of me, but I've said pretty much all I can say.
11:23.25krkawall of text!
11:23.37jnwhitehI suspect you know how to use your scrollbar.
11:23.43jnwhitehI have to go hang my laundry.
11:23.45Wobinsmites you for lots
11:24.01WobinSo, DC Universe
11:24.06Wobin(Online)
11:24.44asmodaiWobin: indeed!
11:26.36ShefkiFor what it's worth, I've sat here to figure out that if I type wowprogramming.com chorme goes to www.wowprogramming.com
11:26.45ShefkiIf I type wowprogramming.com/ it goes to wowprogramming.com
11:27.20ShefkiSo as far as I was concerned I was typing the same thing, I wasn't even thinking about the /
11:28.10ShefkiBut OBVIOUSLY I should be perfect and come to jnwhiteh with perfectly complete bug reports.
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11:30.04WobinI think jnwhiteh's sentence fragments puts forward a brevity that was a bit misinterpreted
11:30.14Wobinscrews up his tenses
11:30.30Wobins/puts/put/
11:30.57Wobinhe wasn't being abrupt, just distracted.
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11:38.17ShefkiWobin: I took the obviously response as dismissive of any problem at all.  Which fit with his very first line in response to this.
11:39.06sbuerrr
11:39.10Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2731 / (15 files in 7 directories): Cleanup, new BabbleBoss entrys
11:39.11sbumy realid friends are gone :p
11:39.25Shefkisbu: battle.net offline?
11:39.41sbuno idea, i can send new requestes
11:39.42sbu-e
11:39.51Shefkibeta or live?
11:39.57sbulive
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11:41.39ShefkiWho knows, probably just a temporary problem.
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11:42.35ShefkiMaybe they deployed a fix for BN_NEW_PRESENCE this week, I haven't bothered to test it yet, and goofed something up in the process.
11:42.49sbuwhats that?
11:43.20Shefkievent that fires when you reconnect to the battle.net server.
11:44.06ShefkiIt always sends events for your own presenceIDs which includes your real name, even if you're not using Real ID (unless you've disabled RealID entirely)
11:47.59ShefkiIndeed they did fix the event.
11:48.46ShefkiBN_NEW_PRESENCE 7  BN_NEW_PRESENCE 8 Shefki
11:48.55ShefkiFirst one doesn't have my real name on it anymore.
11:58.01Shefkisbu: EU or US?
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12:04.04Fiskeri don't get it
12:04.14Fiskerwhy not just let anyone disable it?
12:04.25ShefkiRealID?
12:05.24ShefkiFisker: If you mean RealID you can disable it, by turning on parental controls.
12:05.37Fiskeryes
12:05.42Fiskerby turning on parental controls
12:05.49Fiskershouldn't be nessecary :3
12:05.56ShefkiIt's not now.
12:06.07ShefkiAll the holes have been fixed.
12:06.27Fiskeri know
12:06.52Fiskerjust saying you should be allowed to opt-out completely without using parental controls
12:07.11ShefkiI'm gonna guess they just didn't figure it was necessary.
12:07.21ShefkiSince in theory nothing is exposed unless you add friends.
12:08.29Fiskertrue
12:08.49ShefkiHell both me and Shadowed dug around with it and didn't think to try whispering ourselves with our own presenceID nor did we notice the event which doesn't fire very often.
12:09.55ShefkiI'm just glad they took the issue seriously enough to get it fixed this fast.
12:10.09ShefkiI mean how often have you seen Blizzard fix a bug that quickly?
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12:10.19Fiskerhaha
12:10.27Fiskerjust like how they fixed accountname in cataclysm
12:10.35Shefki?
12:10.35Fiskerso it'll have been ingame for ~6 years when they fix it
12:10.36Fiskerhoho
12:10.44ShefkiWhat do you mean?
12:10.47Fiskerthe cvar with your account name in it
12:11.12ShefkiOhh was that accessible in game?
12:11.15Fiskerthey fixed it here with all the uproar over real id
12:11.16Fiskeryeah
12:11.17Stanzillawhat does it return now?
12:11.23Fiskernothing
12:11.24ShefkiProbably nothing.
12:11.34ShefkiFisker: You sure it wasn't at the same time as they fixed AVR?
12:11.42Fiskeri argued that it was the users responsibility to make sure he didn't use malicious addons
12:11.45Fiskernaw Shefki
12:11.46ShefkiSince that may have waranted more looking at CVARs.
12:11.48Fiskerworks on live
12:11.50Fiskeror should do
12:12.13Fiskerand this guy didn't believe you could get any other info but the real id stuff
12:12.23Fiskerand i showed him how to get his username (i.e. now e-mail)
12:12.28ShefkiIsn't that only set if you set it to save your account name though?
12:13.04Fiskerhmm
12:13.06Fiskerdunno about that
12:13.07Fiskermight be
12:13.45ShefkiGetCVar("accountName") returns nothing for me.
12:13.58ShefkiWas there a different accountName cvar?
12:15.00Fiskernope
12:15.03Fiskerthat was it
12:15.18ShefkiWell it's not accessible in game anymore if it ever was.
12:15.28ShefkiAnd I have my accountname set to save.
12:15.36Fiskerit definitely was
12:15.48ShefkiI'd guess they caught it with the vars AVR was using.
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12:16.09ShefkiMakes sense that they'd realize their security model was being broken by some CVARs and look through all of the ones available.
12:16.25Fiskerhmm
12:16.30Fiskerwhen was the real id bug discovered?
12:16.36Fiskerbecause it could've been EU was still on 3.3.3
12:16.46ShefkiUmm they were.
12:16.57Fiskerprobably why then
12:18.05ShefkiMight have been before that too, there were people paranoid about it before the bugs even popped up.
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12:20.07Fiskerfun fact though
12:20.19Fisker3.3.5 returns accountname in the console
12:20.21Fiskercataclysm doesn't
12:21.12ShefkiHow do you get into the console I never remember.
12:21.50Fiskerjust create a shortcut and add -console
12:22.17ShefkiNot on Windows.
12:22.46Fiskerbaw
12:23.08Fiskerthere's a cvar you can set in the wtf file too i believe
12:23.13Fiskerbut i can't remember it
12:23.22Fiskerprobably just something as simple as "console 1" but idk
12:24.48ShefkiWell this didn't work: open /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/World\ of\ Warcraft.app --args -console
12:25.06Fiskerthat's what you get from maccing
12:25.16ShefkiAhh nm it worked.
12:28.48ShefkiAnd yeah it works.  Not that it matters, anyone that can use that knows the accoutName anyway.
12:31.02Fiskeryeah i know
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12:31.16Fiskermight just be why someone said they added it in cataclysm
12:31.22Fiskersince that blocks the console too
12:31.37Fiskerbut i'm guessing they'll just be removing the cvars they do not feel should return values to the ui
12:33.01ShefkiProbably worth removing just to avoid paranoia.  Not like anyone needs that info to debug something.
12:33.59Stanzillaare the beta servers still down btw?
12:34.00ShefkiThen again, maybe they just tightened up what info the client keeps and it no longer retains the accountName in memory after login.
12:37.31Fiskerthey're up here Stanzilla
12:37.44Stanzillayeah just noticed
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13:38.16steevmorning sirs
13:38.19steevand fisker
13:43.40kagarohrmm this has to be a bug, dancing rune weapon adds a second dot to the target
13:44.10steevwow, congrats on acquiring mmo-champion
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13:45.20Zyntoday MMOC, tomorrow ... THE WORLD
13:45.25Zyn¯\(°_o)/¯
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13:48.57arkanesheh, casting healing hands gives 60% speed boost. I can't wait, cast it & zoom all over the raid like tinkerbell
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13:57.08Nickenyfikenomg the phasing in Hyjal is just amazing.
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14:04.15steevall you people in beta
14:04.19steevfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
14:06.17Elkanowhy so mad *biggrin*
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14:11.08arkanesso just from talents, holy pallies get 400% haste to holy light
14:11.41arkaneswhich drops it below the GCD
14:14.26steevarkanes: nice!
14:14.30Fiskerslaps arkanes around a bit with a large trout
14:15.08arkanesspeed of light should probably not apply to holy light, and instead to some other heal
14:15.35arkanesof course I think it already applies to all the cast time ones :\
14:16.25arkanesoh heh I missed a decimal point
14:16.31arkanes233% haste, still a lot
14:18.17arkanes*133%
14:18.17Axodiousi was gonna say... lol
14:18.17Axodiousis this including procs that reduce casting speed?
14:18.17arkanesyes
14:18.18Axodioustime *
14:18.18arkanesthis would be after a crity holy shock
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14:18.32Axodiousyeah that sounds like it's about right
14:18.43phyberanyone got the .torrent for the latest enGB beta patch? forum seems to say it's ~1.3GB, need to try grabbing it at work instead of slowly downloading at home :)
14:18.52arkanesbasically if you have any haste at all it'll drop your holy light to the GCD or below
14:19.06Axodiousphyber you know how to fetch the torrent?
14:19.32phyberAxodious: there are torrent extractors that will pull it out of the downloader.
14:19.41phyberjust checking wowwiki for it now that i asked too, should have done this first :p
14:19.45Axodiousarkanes: they did that change with holy shock crit because in pve you rarely use it unless you are moving
14:20.08arkanesAxodious: back in naxx before the illumination nerf you used it on cooldown for the crit
14:20.12arkanesI imagine people will do the same now
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14:20.25phyberAxodious: although, the downloader is fine too, if you have that.  I can just run it in wine.
14:20.30phyber:)
14:21.24Axodiousgah wait i've only got enus
14:21.35Axodiousshould have actually read what you said >_>
14:21.50phyberah, ok :)
14:22.00Axodiousit will be usefull in ohcrap moments now arkanes which is what i think they are intending
14:22.39Axodiousjust finishing patching the beta now ~_~
14:22.40arkanesI'll be using it on cooldown pretty much I expect
14:22.51Axodiouspatching it took like 10 minutes
14:22.55arkanesit's basically a better version of the t10 4pc
14:22.59Axodiousyea
14:23.31Axodiouslol entire patch took 33 minutes >_<
14:23.48arkanesand the 4pc would be good if I didn't stack so much haste already, the t10 wasn't so badly itemized
14:23.54Repo10mob-notes: 03Rabbit * r62 / (5 files in 2 directories): Some more options and fix a drycode mistake.
14:24.10arkanesbut since I won't have as much haste in cata, and I'll have more crit, I'll be using that a lot
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14:26.05Axodiousnot sure how i'm feeling with the prot/ret changes so far
14:26.12arkanesI like the prot tree
14:26.13Axodiousa lot of proc stuff
14:26.16arkanesyeah
14:26.21arkanessword & board for pallies
14:26.38arkaneseye for an eye is interesting
14:26.50Axodiousi thought it was funny when it was judging
14:27.06arkanesI actually liked that mechanic better
14:27.24Axodiousthe problem was that in pvp you were pegged at full mana pretty much
14:27.50arkanesI dont like that it gets worse as you gain avoidance, but 3% of your incoming damage reflected is a pretty good chunk of t/dps
14:28.40StanzillaI hate how they gave consecration to warriors :(
14:28.40Axodiousproviding it actually generates threat
14:28.51arkanesdid they?
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14:29.17Stanzillayup
14:29.24arkanesI haven't looked at warriors yet
14:29.36StanzillaThunderstruck - Your Thunder Clap leaves a crackling zone of energy on the ground for 5/10 sec, dealing 5.63 damage every sec to enemies that cross it.
14:29.47arkanesheh nice
14:29.58Axodiousnot quite the same as the new consecrate
14:30.01Stanzillano, lame :p
14:30.05Pucmelits not yellow !
14:30.05arkanesI like how pallies can choose between burst AOE by talenting up holy wrath, or buffing consecrate
14:30.14arkanesor a combination thereof
14:30.50arkaneshttp://www.wowtal.com/#k=-ptQOhZ3.9ob.paladin is basically what I've come up with, exact details of the points to vary as we see how stuff plays out
14:31.41Axodiousi remember reading about a healing conal spell for paladins, that sounds interesting if they implement it
14:31.49arkanesits 31 point talent in holy
14:32.16Axodiouswow i'm blind
14:32.19arkanesall our AOE heals are back on cooldowns :(
14:32.21Axodiousfor some reason i thought that was healing hands
14:33.04Axodiousi expect a lot of fights where we're gonna have an aoe hpase or something where ppl stack up
14:33.07Axodiousfor healing hands
14:33.17arkanesnah thats what speed of light is for
14:33.35arkanesyou pop it and you fly through the raid like tinkerbell, spewing your healing... seed... all over
14:33.43Axodiousrofl
14:33.44Ackisany hg users here? http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2398-does-the-packager-use-tip-or-default-branch/
14:33.52arkanesI may have to name change
14:34.18Axodiousi've already got an awesome name for speed of light
14:34.26AxodiousSonic Xd
14:34.31arkanesAckis: if you didn't set hg up to do something special, it pulls tip
14:34.53Axodiousand my ass of a room mate stole my idea, robotnik with mims head
14:34.58arkanesheh
14:35.23Axodiousa giant tauren running at 60% speed is going to be interesting
14:35.28asmodaiAckis: oi
14:36.02asmodaiOh nvm, didn't see you were asking about the URL -- which arkanes answered.
14:36.16Axodiousnow the question is: are these the actual talent trees or is this still "nothing has been touched"
14:36.18Axodious>_> <_<
14:37.16arkaneswell they're clearly more developed than the previous iteration
14:37.26steevi'm up to 23 shards, so i got 4 last night, which made me happy
14:37.35arkanesI haven't looked at all of them but I don't see anything more than minor polish needed really
14:37.45steevwe're gonna try hard modes on bql, dreamwalker and princes tomorrow
14:38.21Ackisthanks arkanes and asmodai
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14:40.40Axodioushmmm
14:41.00Axodiouswonder if it's worth while to reduce divine protection...
14:41.24asmodaiAckis: Heh, np, didn't do anything though.
14:41.32Ackisasmodai: you tried ;)
14:41.33Axodioususually i only use it once on a given fight
14:46.32Axodioushmm arkanes, probably what i'm gonna do is have 2 prot specs
14:46.34arkanessteev: bql is pretty easy
14:46.49steevarkanes: yeah, and there is 30% now so
14:46.59arkanesprinces is a pain in the ass, but not that hard once yuo get the hang of it, dreamwalker can be really rough
14:47.09arkanesadd management on heroic is *hard*
14:47.46arkanesAxodious: 2 minute CD vs a 5 minute one is a big difference, and they'll balance boss timers assuming you have a 2 min one available
14:48.15Axodiousyou could substitue DG for the 2nd cooldown though
14:48.25arkanesonly 20%
14:48.47arkanesit'll depend on the fights I suppose
14:48.52arkanesthat does free up a lot of threat points
14:49.01Axodiousprobably i'll have 2 specs like i said
14:49.04Axodiousan uber threat spec
14:49.09Axodiousand one with more survivability
14:49.41arkanes9/6/9 is dead of course but I'm not sure what our new rotation is gonna be and if imp judgment is going to be useful
14:50.15jnwhitehShefki: we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Enjoy yourself, Im' done.
14:50.34jnwhitehI find it incredible that after everything I said, you still find a need to come after me.
14:50.43Axodioussurvive: http://www.wowtal.com/#k=p8OGCK1.9ob.paladin threat: http://www.wowtal.com/#k=-pAKFTKu.9ob.paladin
14:50.48Axodioussomething like that
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14:51.46Axodiouspretty happy about the change to reckoning
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14:52.03arkanesits a nerf relative to live
14:52.32Axodiousit scales better
14:52.37arkanesbut now that there will be slow tanking weapons, and the threat talents in ret aren't as amazing, it's worth taking
14:52.45arkanesnah its the same
14:52.51arkanesreckoning on live procs on blocks or damage
14:53.01arkanestooltip is just wrong for the low ranks of it
14:53.56Axodiousyes it procs from both of those but right now when you start getting geared your avoiding more rather than blocking and avoiding doesn't proc it
14:54.29arkanessure but that parts not changing
14:55.23arkanesoverall avoidance will be lower so it's a little nicer in that respect
14:55.27arkanesbut then so will block
14:56.38arkanesbased purely on intuition I suspect it'll be our second-best single target threat talent though, after crusade
15:06.52steevarkanes: we run with like 4 resto druids, a resto shaman, a holy paladin and a couple priests
15:07.14arkanessteev: thats a lot of healers
15:07.27steevthe priests are normally shadow unless we need bubbles
15:07.45steevone druid has a tank offspec, another has boom
15:07.50arkanesthose are all weak classes for dreamwalker sadly
15:07.56steev:(
15:07.59arkanespallies and shamans are the best
15:08.00steevwarrior heals?
15:08.02steevahh
15:08.19steevwe run with 5 paladins, of which, 2 are tanks and the other 3 all have dps/heals
15:08.37arkanesdruids are second best, have the priests go 1 holy 1 disc and stay out
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15:13.56steevi'm kind of annoyed with the game right now
15:14.06steevi can't really upgrade anything without losing out on shit
15:14.33steevwinding sheet heroic, drops me to 13 expertise
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15:15.39steevthe ring dropped, but i lost the roll, that woulda been nice
15:17.18Wobinugh, as disc, I struggle to keep everyone healed on Dreamwalker
15:17.35Wobinof course, we haven't had many attempts
15:17.53Wobinso I guess once the dreamwalker healers get used to going in and out and healing, they can toss a few heals to the raid
15:18.09arkanesif anything it should be the other way around
15:18.18arkanesif you're having trouble, have anothe raid healer
15:18.42arkaneswe use a druid and I think 2 priests outside
15:18.49arkanesmaybe 2 druids and 2 priests?
15:19.30orionshockgg one bad hearth and boom have to delete my worgen :(
15:20.17Wobinarkanes: oh, only 10man
15:20.55arkanesWobin: if you're the only person out, then you really want to be holy
15:21.22Wobinbut Disc isn't really as effective on dreamwalker healing, no?
15:21.36arkanesdisc is usless on her directly yeah
15:22.04arkanesholy generally has an easier time with the damage outside, and it gives you GS on her
15:22.41Wobinhm, maybe I can finagle the healers to be pally/priest with the druid outside doing raid heals
15:22.43Wobinand I dps =P
15:22.55Wobin(holy priest)
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15:26.31arkanesman ret has too many places to spend talents
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15:34.47Ali13311.36gb....
15:34.51Ali1331*sigh*
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15:47.22durcynAli1331: it's a cumulative patch, just think though: the next time you have to reinstall beta, it'll go faster!
15:50.01Ali1331Why would I have to reinstall it
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15:53.55groktarmy new monitor arms are out for delivery /happydance
15:54.39Kaelteng'morning
15:54.51groktarpounces Kaelten
15:58.24Kaelteneek!
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15:59.02Kaelten:(
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16:00.42Kaelten:)
16:00.45groktareek an undead
16:00.50groktarholy wrath
16:01.21quiescensoh well
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16:07.15groktartweaks his webserver
16:07.29asmodaiKaelten: Morning!
16:07.54groktarattempts to pounce asmodai, but misses high and goes flying through the window
16:08.04asmodaiwatches something fly past
16:08.16groktarhits the ground with a sickening thud
16:09.01groktarmmm watching apt-get upgrade is fun
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16:10.16Kaeltenhey asmodai
16:10.20asmodaiKaelten: gratz
16:10.21Nobgullol
16:13.03nevcairielanyone happen to know a mirror fro the engb beta patch? the freaking downloader is crawling agian
16:13.20Kaeltengratz?
16:13.25durcynengb, /heh/
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16:20.14groktarhears vhaar is downloading movies off usenet, gobbling up all your bandwidth
16:20.19groktarevil vhaarr
16:20.22asmodaiKaelten: For enslaving Bibi
16:20.27groktarslaps vhaarr around a bit with a large trout
16:20.39Kaeltenlol
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16:30.21FiskerKaelten
16:30.25Fiskerwhen do i has sc2?
16:33.56Kaeltenon launch day?
16:34.31Elkanowhy would you even want it?
16:35.09Fiskeri don't think so Kaelten
16:35.09Elkanofor me, the only reason to get it would most likely be the custom maps... :/
16:35.11Fiskerwow pets Elkano !
16:35.40Nobgulwow pet?
16:35.47Fiskeryeah
16:36.02nevcairielAll i would do with it is play single player
16:36.09nevcairieland its kinda too expensive for that, imho
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16:36.53NobgulFisker any clue on what type of pet?
16:38.24FiskerIt's thor
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16:50.24steevspiffy
16:50.29steevGrave Titan went up in price
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17:00.11winkillermhm, Titan gravy
17:04.23Xinhuanalien swarm is going to > sc2 for me atm lol
17:04.26Xinhuanso good
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17:07.01asmodaiXinhuan: with 2-3 console commands you can play it as an FPS :P
17:07.13Xinhuanno doubt lol
17:07.19asmodaiNo seriously :)
17:07.25Xinhuanfull source code available too (minus the game engine)
17:07.49asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOvAYCZfo_g
17:07.53asmodaihas the commands
17:08.13Xinhuani know the commands, i've been coding in the source engine the last 5 months lol...
17:09.30asmodaiOh ok, buddies of mine are about to release a Source-based game on Steam in a few months
17:09.31Ackishas 2 SC2 CE's on pre-order
17:09.42Fiskerhas all SC2 CE's on pre-order
17:11.23Ac-townI need to reserve cata CE
17:11.30asmodaiAnd you ain't getting any.
17:11.43Ackismy fiancee got a second job at a local EB games
17:12.14Fiskera second? :(
17:12.24Fiskerwhat a great provider you are Ackis !
17:12.25Fisker:D
17:12.41asmodai</rimshot>
17:12.49Ackistwo jobs at 15-20 hours a week == less than a full time job asshole :P
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17:14.18Pneumatusso, alienswarm
17:14.49Fiskereasily trolled Ackis
17:14.56Pneumatuspretty god damn awesome, rly
17:19.55nevcairielhavent played it yet, will probably try later today
17:20.15Ac-townI haven't played it yet, playing minecraft atm
17:23.53GnarfozStanzilla: sup, you pinged
17:24.02Stanzillauh right
17:24.09Stanzillaquery inc after boss :D
17:24.12Gnarfozkk
17:24.38durcynalien swarm's the most fun you'll have for free -all- -week-
17:26.44Pneumatusreminds me of alien breed on the amiga
17:26.52Pneumatusim guessing that's probably the point
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17:28.51durcynPneumatus: it's based on a UT2K4 TC
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17:30.44Elkanodurcyn, only if you rage with people you know ;)
17:31.02RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/currentloc/. CurrentLocation. everix92 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
17:31.17RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlas_arena/. Atlas_Arena. arith (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
17:31.20durcynElkano: i dunno, joining public games with the specific intent of getting the highest friendly fire score is occasionally amusing
17:31.39Elkanowell, that's just grabbing the pumpgun ;)
17:31.52asmodaiFor you old timers, if you ever want to read an interesting book: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore
17:39.33RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/character-notes/. Character Notes. talryn1 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
17:41.23Repo10rw2: 03kagaro * r566 / (22 files in 5 directories):
17:41.24RepoStubbing of RaidWatch_Tracker. For right now, will not be added to the package, only available via svn checkout. Also by default it is no enabled.
17:41.25RepoJust contains some basic stubs, not ready for use yet
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17:50.46Pneumatusoh wowtal, why so unable to display sideways prereqs :<
17:55.25GnarfozPneumatus: which one?
17:55.39Pneumatuspriest
17:56.06Pneumatusshadowform goes sideways dependant on imp shadowform, as does evangelism with archangel
17:56.13Fiskerslaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout
17:57.18Pneumatusnone of the trees show sideways dependancies, although the only ones i know for sure are dependant are those two
17:57.25GnarfozPneumatus: known issue, forwarded nontheless
17:57.41Torhalattaches several large prawn to Fisker's earlobes.
18:02.42asmodaibanishes Fisker to Fraggle Rock
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18:18.33asmodaiHahaha
18:18.33asmodaiis it a known problem the Worgen has no face on the character select screen?
18:18.59NickenyfikenYup
18:19.39Nivthe replaced the faces
18:19.54Nivthey*
18:20.07asmodaiSo my model uses some non-existing face now? :)
18:20.34Nivyep
18:21.18asmodaiWell
18:21.21asmodaithat's lovely then
18:21.46asmodaiAnd disconnected from the server
18:22.06NickenyfikenHS to Dalaran seems to be bugged in this patch too.
18:22.37Niveh?
18:24.22pompyi dont think ive came across any innkeepers in mount hyjal lol.. are there any?
18:25.06harlPitBull4 question: when in a raid, is there a way to exclude myself from being shown in the list of raid members?
18:25.07nevcairielyes
18:25.15nevcairiel@pompy
18:25.33ShefkiNo
18:25.35durcynpompy: many, and lots.
18:26.29pompyat which places there?
18:27.14pompyand im not even tracking mailboxes and its showing the mail icon on a mailbox.. hmm.
18:28.02harltoo bad. why not? ;)
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18:32.52nevcairielnow looting is broken
18:32.58nevcairieltry to loot once, and you get stuck
18:33.45asmodaiMine just totally hung
18:34.00pompyloot lag ftw
18:36.33asmodaiyay, assert()
18:36.36asmodaihadn't see that before
18:36.45nevcairieladdon assert or crash assert?
18:36.51asmodaicrash
18:36.55quiescensmoo?
18:37.00asmodaiItemObjMgr
18:37.02nevcairielthats kinda usual
18:37.12asmodaiAfter using the Gilneas alpha teleporter dude
18:37.19asmodai<PROTECTED>
18:37.30nevcairielERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion Failure
18:37.31nevcairielProgram:D:\World of Warcraft Cataclysm\WoW.exe
18:37.31nevcairielFile:.\MapRenderChunk.cpp
18:37.34nevcairielhappens all the time ^
18:37.40nevcairielor used to, last patch anyway
18:37.45Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.6-2-gcb02a38 ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed casing typo causing GetSituationalTooltip error
18:37.58nevcairiel(thats the one when you need to reduce viewing distance)
18:38.04durcynoh, deepholm rendering bugs fixed, then?
18:38.30nevcairieldunno
18:38.32nevcairielhavent been there yet
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18:39.12nevcairielthe freaking quest npc at the crashed carriage still dies randomly
18:39.14nevcairielscrew him
18:39.35durcynor based on what i've seen so far this beta, they'll just remove deepholm so they stop getting bug reports about it
18:40.34durcynor perhaps i'm just bitter because after six years of playing a warlock, they're finally removing everything unique or fun about the class, and i need the catharsis of complaining about it
18:40.47durcynhow did they gut your class this patch, hm?
18:40.52nevcairielthey just dont want too many reports about stuff thats known to be unfinished
18:41.46sbuwell deepholme doesnt crash wow anymore, so thats good :P
18:42.17asmodainevcairiel: I had a different one
18:42.56asmodainevcairiel: Then don't include it.
18:43.04Gnarfozcan anyone point me in the right direction to find out what the hell this garbled text is: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/garbled_text.png
18:43.19asmodaiI mean, seriously, beta means this is the stuff we have prior to release, we need stability and such to be tested.
18:43.47asmodaiPut it in unfinished and people *will* complain.
18:44.08ckknightGnarfoz: Zalgo.
18:44.31Gnarfozckknight: first hit on google is at ED, sounds about right... thanks
18:44.56Gnarfoz(would have never found that on my own, :F)
18:45.20ckknightZalgo cometh.
18:45.40Gnarfozetc etc
18:46.19Gnarfozour resident guild idiot just wasted our time pretending our ts3 chat was "broken" (updated it yesterday, too)
18:47.09Gnarfozrather, wasted my time, the poor gullible non-techie guys and gals fell for it and "alerted" me -.-
18:47.24nevcairielmeh, i still dont have a pet bar
18:47.26nevcairielwth is this
18:49.05asmodaiThat's new. Darkflight triggers your true form now
18:49.06AckisGnarfoz: your voice chat is borken
18:49.08Ackisl2vent?
18:49.19durcynMumble, you canadian.
18:49.31Ackiseh?
18:49.35Ackismumble what?
18:49.41durcynexactly.
18:50.00asmodaiyay
18:50.07GnarfozAckis: haha vent gtfo
18:50.08asmodaiCreate All works at least with professions
18:50.09Gnarfoz(etc)
18:50.20AckisI like vent more than TS /shrug
18:50.26Ackishaven't used it in like a year though
18:50.27GnarfozI don't quite care
18:50.36Ackiswhich I think was before TS3 was out
18:50.36durcynno seriously do you not know what mumble is, Ackis?
18:50.44Ackissnarky aren't we Gnarfoz
18:50.45Gnarfoz(and I don't quite care to pay for vent, even if it was better!)
18:50.54Ackisno clue durcyn
18:51.01durcynthen i pity you
18:51.04GnarfozAckis: says he who randomly comments that "vent > ts" ;p
18:51.27AckisTS was terrible when I used it last :P
18:51.45nevcairielwth
18:51.48Gnarfoznot sure what metric you based that on, but whatever
18:51.59nevcairieli have to cast "Control Pet" ( a PASSIVE spell) to get the pet bar
18:51.59Ackisthe suckiness metric
18:52.02nevcairielsoemthing is broken there
18:52.04Ackisit's on a scale of 1-10
18:52.06Gnarfozand if Mumble wasn't such a PITA to set up and had a UI made by programmers (-> doomed to be crap), we'd be using that
18:52.16Ackisvent was like 3, TS was 7, Gnarfoz is a 10 :P
18:52.21GnarfozAckis: your mom can be represented well on that scale, then
18:52.27Fiskerblows up Ackis using bitches
18:52.36GnarfozFisker: big booty bitches?
18:52.45asmodaiThere's still no archeology in-game right now, right?
18:52.48AckisI already beat you to the punch on using the suckiness scale against you Gnarfoz
18:52.54sbuAckis: try ts3 then
18:52.59GnarfozAckis: since this isn't a contest: NO U
18:53.08AckisNO U U!
18:53.22GnarfozNO U by definition can't be countered, learn your memes
18:53.24Fiskerindeed Gnarfoz
18:53.32Fiskerit can Gnarfoz
18:53.34Fiskerl2meme
18:53.37GnarfozAckis is the cancer killing #wowace
18:53.55Ackissbu: that would require me installing it and more importantly finding some place to chat with
18:54.00GnarfozFisker: blasphemous inventions by newfas =\
18:54.11Gnarfoznewfas, the new newfags
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18:56.33Fiskerhey Ackis
18:56.42Fiskerfree hax
18:57.13asmodaiHave you seen that Guild achievements tab?
18:57.24asmodaiunder dungeon & raids entry there the Legendary one
18:57.26Fiskeryour mom is guild achievements
18:57.38asmodai*yawn*
18:59.43Fiskerzinged
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19:00.35asmodaiNo, a bit tired of the pubescent retorts.
19:01.27Fiskeri.e. zinged
19:01.42Ali1331your mom is a pubescent retort
19:01.49Fiskerdouble zinged
19:03.16asmodai*double yawn*
19:03.28Fiskermadcuzbad
19:05.23pompyanyone notice the green texture for cleft of shadows on the minimap thats still there?
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19:06.47asmodaiNo, not Laird!
19:06.47Torhalsells pompy back to Ackis for a sammich.
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19:28.15asmodaiHmmm
19:28.24nevcairielHmmm!
19:28.27asmodaiDarkshore sure starts off on a sad note with the first few quests
19:28.40nevcairielof course, it suffered  badly in the cataclysm
19:29.07asmodaiYeah, but it's a nice tie in to see them make references to being mortal and all that
19:30.50nevcairieli really do wonder why gilneas is so empty today
19:30.59nevcairieleveryone cant login because they didnt read the file edit trick?
19:31.13asmodaiYesssss
19:31.37asmodaiAlso, I like the Worgen/Night Elf link, it's bound to get more people to Darnassus
19:33.41nevcairielwonder if thats final or if they just drop you in there for the beta
19:35.48asmodaiFinal for all I saw
19:36.04nevcairieli'm at the battle now
19:36.08nevcairieljoining you in darkshore shortly
19:36.15asmodainot quite
19:36.20asmodaithere's a bunch of quests after that :P
19:37.30asmodailol, Gobber Plump is dead, but there's now a Worgen offering a fishing quests
19:37.31asmodaiquest
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19:40.04pompywhen i lose my internet connection.. hte beta doesnt kill the connection successfully.. im here flying around trying to find something to complete a quest when i realize its doing the "you appear to be in the world but you really arent" :x
19:40.21Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r567 RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing.lua: #RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing:
19:40.23Repo- Fixed small typo for defile say message.
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19:40.58nevcairieli noticed that too pompy
19:41.12Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r568 RaidWatch_Icecrown/TheFrozenThrone/TheLichKing.lua: - .. and forgot to fix it for trap, now fixed.
19:42.20asmodainevcairiel: You part of the guild with your Worgen?
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20:18.23Ackis~lart Torhal
20:18.23purlstrangles Torhal with a 9-pole serial cable
20:19.25pompyugh Alien Swarm keeps crashing to the desktop after i load it
20:21.29YssarilSwarm > Pompy :P
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20:27.32pompyapparently i had to install the july 19th client update first lol. now its workin
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20:37.06asmodaiwtf
20:37.09asmodaiLevel 14
20:37.10asmodaitada
20:37.16asmodaiBig announcement, talent point available
20:37.20asmodaicheck talent interface
20:37.24asmodaiNext point available at level 15
20:37.27asmodaierr, wait, what?
20:39.13Fiskerslaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout
20:39.23steevwow, rapid fire phish attempts
20:39.56steevjust got 8 in a row
20:40.27NeoTronasmodai: likely haven't updated the level up messages since the change to 31 pt trees?
20:42.58Torhal~multilart Ackis
20:43.01TorhalDamn it!
20:54.01Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r569 RaidWatch_Ulduar/Freya.lua: #RaidWatch_Ulduar/Freya:
20:54.02Repo- Fixed typo.
20:56.47Ackis~slapwithbigblackdick Torhal
20:56.52Ackisdarmnit :P
20:57.48TorhalWow. You're repressed.
20:57.49Torhal:D
20:58.58Ackisand you were just slapped in the face with a penis :)
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21:05.02TorhalAckis: No, I wasn't. You fantasized that the event occurred.
21:05.20TorhalTherefore, you should go renew your WoW sub.
21:05.23Stanzillais he still making up things?
21:05.26Stanzillalike..his penis?
21:05.49TorhalOuch.
21:06.26AckisTorhal: right now we're thinking of it, but want to pay some bills off first because coming back to wow would require a server transfer and possible faction transfer as well (aka not cheap)
21:07.39Ackisbut then on the other hand I like not being tied down into a game, and probalby wouldn't play because of my Xbox :P
21:11.00asmodaiNeoTron: Must be yea
21:11.12asmodaiNeoTron: I'm again reporting a lot of stuff left 'n right :)
21:11.13asmodaiAnd yes!
21:11.23asmodaiI did report on Coarse and Fine Thread's icons!
21:11.25TorhalAckis: Your blisters have blisters, man.
21:11.38asmodaiis on a mission to get that fixed
21:12.18steevLeft at front door. Package delivered to recipient address - release authorized
21:12.20steeveeeeeeeee
21:12.25StanzillaFisker: hey soul sister
21:14.07AckisI don't get it Torhal
21:14.15Ackisoh blister from playing xbox :P
21:21.35TorhalYESSIR!
21:26.42Ackisbut the xbox is superior to wow in so many ways Torhal
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21:27.17Repofix a backward compatibility issue with addons still using t[name] = name tables instead of the LSM hash table t[name] = path. (should now give those addons previews of the selections again)
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21:43.08Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.263 * r366 : RaidBuffStatus:
21:43.10Repo- Tagged as stable.
21:44.19Repo10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.9-2-ga4a78d4 Modules (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Adjusted LSM calls to use the newer apis. Setup LSM30_Sound for Notify module"
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22:13.50ckknightFor AceConfig-3.0 options, for the select type, is there a way to have descriptions for each choice?
22:14.17[Ammo]you mean separate tooltips?
22:14.18[Ammo]no
22:15.14ckknightthat seems bad
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22:50.46pompyd'oh
22:50.48pompyBerserker Rage is bugged in the current beta build, it's not  supposed to require the Berserker Stance. The game shows Berserker  Stance in the tooltip but it's still usable in all stances.
22:53.14PrimerSpeaking of unicode, anyone know of an addon that puts unicode characters into chat?
22:53.29Primerfrom a table where one could click, for example
22:53.47pompy@project unicodefont
22:53.47Repopompy: No project found that matches 'unicodefont'
22:53.57pompyhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/unicode-font/
22:54.00pompyPrimer: ^
22:54.05Primerthanks
22:55.39Primerthis seems rather overkill
22:55.49PrimerI just want to put shit like ♪ into chat
22:56.11Torhal@project character-map
22:56.12RepoTorhal: No project found that matches 'character-map'
22:56.15Torhal@project charactermap
22:56.19RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/charactermap/. CharacterMap. Game: WoW. Mirrormn (Manager/Author). Updated: 47 hours ago
22:56.32Torhal@describe charactermap
22:56.32RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/charactermap/. CharacterMap. An in-game keyboard of non-standard characters.
22:56.37Primerthanks
22:56.45Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1123 / (5 files in 1 directory):
22:56.47Repo- Fixed unintended globals (to avoid taint issues). Thanks to Dargen for spotting these.
22:57.10Primerwow, that image hover on wowace is really annoying
22:57.13Primerin how it follows the mouse
22:58.46durcynugh, recount still has svn:externals set
23:01.38Stanzillackknight: what are you coding?
23:01.52ckknightStanzilla: something for Curse
23:02.00Stanzillamkay
23:02.36Stanzillasuper secrect project #3
23:09.09TorhalStanzilla: He's coding the new Google homepage. You know, for when Curse buys Google.
23:09.47durcynbut they'll make it slower!
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23:49.16ThunderofnlHey guys, I can't post on the forums :S I made an account  but it ekeps asking for me to log in.. and I can;t login with my username and pass..
23:49.52durcynckknight must've broken something.
23:50.19ThunderofnlCry, I wanna start coding my addon lol

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