IRC log for #wowace on 20100712

00:00.42benIt has to read and parse them, but most of the loading gets skipped, I assume
00:00.43benLike the evaluation
00:00.43vhaarryes
00:00.43vhaarrall libraries start with something like this
00:00.43vhaarrlocal lib = LibStub:NewLibrary("LibMyLibrary-1.0", 10)
00:00.43vhaarrif not lib then return end
00:00.57vhaarrand libstub checks the revision (10 here), and if it's lower or the same as the last loaded LibMyLibrary-1.0, then it returns nothing
00:01.05vhaarrso |if not lib then return end| triggers
00:01.10vhaarrand the file is not loaded
00:01.29Mirrormngotcha
00:01.37Mirrormnso the only thing it really wastes is disk space
00:02.01vhaarrin the sense that plain text can waste disk space, yes
00:02.16Mirrormnhaha
00:02.46Mirrormnwell, if you're on dialup and you're trying to download 100 different addons, I dunno, there could be considerable overhead from having libraries packaged into all of them
00:03.45vhaarrno
00:05.21Mirrormnuh-huh
00:06.11Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.6.10b-5-g2b300a1 Libs/LibInstanceLootData-1.0/data.lua: [+1 commit] Miner Run (The Ruby Sanctum now has partial percentages (nothing for heroic modes yet))
00:06.41vhaarra big-ass moth just got in the window here, but what I wanted to say was; if you care about dailup users, you're on your own
00:06.41benI have always found that the bottleneck when downloading 100 different addons is curse bugging out and not finding the addon I am looking for, instead of my bandwidth :V
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00:08.23Mirrormnbandwidth-ist =/
00:09.38Mirrormnthanks for the advice
00:09.45vhaarrgod dammit it's too big to smack, I will have to clean after
00:09.56vhaarrI have to go around, turn off all the lights, open a door and lead it out
00:10.04Mirrormnnow hopefully my guild will actually do HLK tonight so I can get some testing done
00:10.32Mirrormnvhaarr: trap it under a cup, slip some paper under the cup, and then transport it outside
00:10.52Mirrormnthat's what I do with spiders, which I am deathly afraid of
00:11.29StanzillaI just kill spiders
00:11.35Stanzillawith fire or papers
00:12.11Mirrormnif you kill a spider, it causes its demonic soul to possess you and give you terrible hallucinations
00:12.14Mirrormntrue story
00:12.27Stanzillanot if you use fire!
00:12.46Mirrormnwell that seems like it would lead to a high risk of setting your house on fire
00:13.08orionshockwell such risks should be taken :)
00:13.37Stanzillain case of spiders, yes
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00:57.15Funkeh`anyone got/know a good SG-U 720p s1 dvdrip yet?
00:58.34Repo10rw2: 03kagaro * r524 RaidWatch_DebugBossMod/RaidWatch_DebugBossMod.toc: Fixed area id for DemogBossMod to load in ironforge
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01:07.45p3limIs there any API to find out what location an unit is in?
01:30.54Mirrormnyou can get location info for a friend or a guildmate
01:31.13Mirrormnit seems like there should be a way to get it for any given UnitID but I don't know what it is
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01:47.56orionshockFunkeh`, is SGU season1 out on dvd yet?
01:48.40orionshocki guess it is...
01:50.34Funkeh`yes
01:51.09Funkeh`all the s1 torrents are just collections from TV
01:52.39KalrothFunkeh`: Stargate.Universe.S01E*.DVDRip.XviD-REWARD
01:53.40Funkeh`Kalroth, not 720p
01:53.54Kalrothoh right, yeah no HD rips out yet
01:54.13Funkeh`mm :/
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02:34.23Repo10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.7-6-g56e083f modules.xml: [+1 commit] Removed ChatLink module from loading, seems its no longer needed as you can link items in custom channels by default now"
02:35.21Funkeh`kagaro, you could do that since 3.3.3
02:35.53kagaroyeah but i didnt start working on any chatter stuff till 3.3.5
02:36.09kagaromajor bugs are squashed, so just doing cleanup now
02:46.43Repo10gridstatustankcooldown: 03slaren * r13 GridStatusTankCooldown.toc: - Minor .toc changes
02:50.52orionshockthink anyone would mind if i started redoing automation?
02:51.46orionshock@describe Automaton
02:51.47Repoorionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/automaton/. Automaton. Reduces interface tedium by doing the little things for you.
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03:14.33Mirrormncan anyone give me a little help with AceTimer?
03:28.58orionshockMirrormn, what's up?
03:29.07orionshocki got 30mins to kill due to a crap random dungeon
03:32.32Mirrormnbasically, I'm unhappy with how it always raises an error when I call TimeLeft on a handle that doesn't exist or has expired
03:32.53Mirrormnand I was wondering if there's some simple way to keep it from doing that
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03:34.03Mirrormnwhat I ended up doing was explicitly setting my handles back to nil on timer expiration and then checking if they're nil before every call to TimeLeft and that just seemed really terrible
03:34.06orionshockwell normally i'd sugest that you check with the lib if the timer is running, then work with it. aparently AceTimer dosn't have an api for that
03:34.23orionshockhow many timers do u have running Mirrormn ?
03:34.51Mirrormnthey're fairly pervasive
03:35.00Mirrormnin my addon
03:35.24MirrormnI mean, my solutions *works*, it just seems like I'm totally missing something
03:36.49MirrormnI mean, for example, you can pass a second argument to CancelTimer so it won't raise an error if the handle is nil or expired
03:37.09Mirrormnmaybe you can do the same thing with TimeLeft and it's just not in the documentation
03:37.28orionshockwhile nevcairiel would probabbly slap your wrist for it..  could always check in  "LibStub("AceTimer-3.0").selfs[<addonSelf>][handle]"
03:38.05orionshockbut digging around inside the internals of libs is often warned not to be done
03:38.17vhaarrMirrormn: what are you talking about?
03:38.31MirrormnAceTimer:TimeLeft
03:38.47Mirrormnalways raising an error when you pass it a handle that is nil or expired
03:39.19orionshockIm looking at the code atm Mirrormn, TimeLeft() dosn't account for a silent option
03:39.25Mirrormnyeah -.-
03:39.28vhaarrif the handle is expired, it doesn't exist
03:39.35Mirrormnuh
03:39.36vhaarrso that's an obvious error right there
03:39.40MirrormnI dunno if that's true
03:39.53vhaarrwhat do you mean?
03:40.09Mirrormnbecause I originally just assumed an expired timer would be nil, and checked for a nil handler before calling TimeLeft
03:40.26Mirrormnfor example, if(handle and TimeLeft(handle)) then
03:40.27orionshockvhaarr, he's checking on the status of a running timer, at the time of the check it's unknown if the call back has fired..
03:40.29vhaarrthe handle you get back is not nilled, and can't be
03:40.36Mirrormnbut it was still giving me errors for expired timers
03:40.39vhaarrby acetimer, that is
03:40.41vhaarryes it will
03:40.49vhaarrthere's no way around that, you have to nil the handle yourself
03:41.14Mirrormnwell, I guess that's what I ended up doing
03:41.14vhaarrin which case :TimeLeft should just not return anything and fail silently
03:42.09orionshockvhaarr, nope, TimeLeft() fails in a loud way.
03:42.14vhaarryou are mistaken
03:42.55orionshockgrr, wrong func
03:43.10orionshockwhen nil then it fails silent, but when invalid it errors.
03:43.49orionshockthere is no easy way to nil the handle given by ScheduleTimer() as the handle is not passed to the func when the timer goes off
03:44.08vhaarrindeed, that's how it is
03:44.32orionshockAceTimer needs a "IsValidHandel()" imo
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03:44.47vhaarrwhat is the use case for that then?
03:45.07orionshockMirrormn is aparently needing it.
03:45.16orionshockMirrormn,  - what addon are you working on?
03:45.18vhaarrno he doesn't, he just needs it to get around some crappy coding
03:46.06orionshocki've often found that if your trying to make an Ace Lib do something that turns out to be very hard and awkward then you probably need to be doing it a different way entirely.
03:49.11Mirrormnwell
03:50.24Mirrormnit doesn't seem strange at all to me that asking how much time is left on an expired timer should return nil
03:50.34Mirrormnthat seems like the simplest way for things to work
03:50.54orionshockdepends on what your doing..
03:51.35vhaarrMirrormn: so how long should it keep these strings around then?
03:51.47Mirrormnwhat strings?
03:51.51vhaarrthe handles
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03:52.45orionshockMirrormn, the handles that AceTimer returns are actually just a tostring( ) of the info table that it uses
03:53.02Mirrormnmm, I didn't know that
03:53.08vhaarrwhat difference does that make?
03:53.14vhaarr<vhaarr> Mirrormn: so how long should it keep these handles around then?
03:53.19vhaarrlet me rephrase ^
03:53.45Mirrormnwell, it wouldn't keep them
03:54.07vhaarrit would certainly have to, if you want :TimeLeft to silently return something on expired timers
03:54.46Mirrormnno it wouldn't, although it would if you wanted it to have a different return for expired timers and timers that never existed in the first place
03:54.56Mirrormnso I guess the argument is that that feature is more important
03:55.15vhaarrI don't see how you can call it a feature without presenting a use case
03:55.49Mirrormnwell, for example
03:56.07Mirrormnsomeone uses a cooldown that I am concerned with
03:56.27Mirrormnso I set a timer for the duration of that cooldown
03:56.54Mirrormnlater, if I want to see if that cooldown is available
03:57.00Mirrormnwhether or not it has been used yet
03:57.49orionshockyea, i can predict this answer.. use the WoWAPI for that one IMO
03:58.08MirrormnI would just use if not(TimeLeft(timer))
03:58.27vhaarrMirrormn: yes so you have a table then, with key:cooldownId and value:timerHandle
03:58.45Mirrormnyes
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03:58.56vhaarrMirrormn: when a CD is used, you put a new entry in, trigger a new timer for the function |timerReturn|
03:59.04vhaarrwith cooldownId as the argument
03:59.10vhaarrthen, in the function, you remove the entry from the table
03:59.13vhaarrand thus, you are done
03:59.57Mirrormnwell, if that's the way It's Done
04:00.07Mirrormnthat's what I ended up doing anyway
04:00.11Mirrormnit just didn't seem correct
04:00.14vhaarrthere's no problem with that
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04:05.26Mirrormnwell, you said that calling TimeLeft with a nil handle fails silently, right?
04:10.52vhaarrit does indeed
04:11.13vhaarrMirrormn: if you are going to wait this long before saying something then please put my nick in front
04:11.27Mirrormnsorry, I was dong LK attempts
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04:23.16Hell-Razorhey guys in sUF how do you move the raid frames individually? right now i can only move them all at the same time
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04:23.36ShadowedYou can't
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04:28.07Slarendoes anybody know if it is possible to configure a secure group header to assign specific anchors to each unit (based on its index, or whatever) ?
04:28.34ShadowedIf you're asking what I think you are, no
04:29.07ShadowedYou can only anchor a secure header, you cannot change how it anchors each unit short of the attributes they provide
04:29.33Slarenyes, i know, i was wondering if there was any attribute that could help me do that
04:29.51ShadowedThose anchors are for every unit, you cannot pick and choose for a single unit
04:30.03Hell-RazorShadowed: you cant? grr
04:30.13Slarenthat's what i was fearing, well
04:30.14Slarenthank you
04:30.20Hell-Razorthey are stretched halfway across my screen
04:30.44Shadowedhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/secure_template/Group_Headers that's what you can do for anchoring
04:31.52Slareni was hoping that maybe there was some undocumented attributed not listed there
04:32.03ShadowedNope!
04:32.06Slarenhey, i found one for unit templates yesterday ^^
04:35.22Hell-Razorfuckin thing
04:35.30Hell-Razori love suf but the stupid raid frames are pissing me off
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04:58.41Slarenis it really possible to make raid frames without using group header templates ?
05:01.15Slarenunless you don't care about ordering and just assign them units raid1..40
05:01.35Slareni can't see how you could do it and still keep the actual raid groups and order
05:06.00Slarenunless i create a group header for each unit, with maxColumns=1 and with a different startingIndex each one
05:06.04Slarenbut really, that would suck
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05:08.49TelrothIs anyone around to help me debug connecting to a curseforge svn repository over svn+ssh with tortise svn and putty's pagent on windows 7 x64?
05:12.36SlarenShadowed can you help me with this one more time ?
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05:47.04Nivvhaarr: you wrote plague puppets right?
05:47.10Nivdid you ever test it? :P
05:58.51Mirrormnwhat is plague puppets?
05:59.01quiescenstesting is overrated
05:59.18quiescensthese days we just assume things will work
06:01.09MirrormnI can't find plague puppets on google at all =/
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06:06.23Znuffsorry
06:06.25Znuffit's a secret addon
06:07.31Nivhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/plaguepuppets.aspx
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06:48.09pompy~seen mysticalos
06:48.11purlmysticalos <~Myst@h7.12.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 1h 53m 55s ago, saying: 'you're still missing the debuff CDs, they are both 25 seconds exactly, shared cd in fact, they cast at same time, and don't reset for phase changes, first one is cast 15 seconds from pull :)'.
06:49.42pompyhttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/falsifybnisself/ hm
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06:55.36Repo10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r23 / (9 files in 2 directories):
06:55.38RepoComplete recoding of all widgets. They no longer leach of the Dropdown widget. Nothing changed API wise.
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08:11.16Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r525 RaidWatch_Plugins (10 files in 2 directories): #RaidWatch_Plugins/VersionDisplay:
08:11.18Repo- Added support for localization.
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08:13.58Adirelle|workhaste, are you there ?
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09:05.19Repo10mr-plow: 03wobin * r150 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag v10.2.6.4-Beta for changeset 7eebdb5a1689
09:05.21RepoMrPlow - ilvl/Glyph sorting, and minimap cmd option (thanks OrionShock)
09:13.08asmodaiWobin: you
09:13.09asmodaiyou
09:13.19asmodaiWobin: You saw my comments on the channel this weekend? :|
09:13.37asmodaiwas talking with orionshock about ilvl sorting of tradegoods with mrplow
09:24.00Repo10rw2: 03mangeg * r526 / (3 files in 3 directories): #RaidWatch_Core/BasePlugins:
09:24.02Repo- Added a small plugin to be used for showing important notification, such as new version available and update done that require game restart to work.
09:24.03Repo#RaidWatch_Plugins/VersionDisplay:
09:24.05Repo- Added support for the new notifications. (Inactive until tested)
09:25.28Repo10yata: 03kaytikat * r81 Header.lua: Fixed copper1956's error
09:26.01Repo10yata: 03kaytikat 043.0-RC2 * r82 : Tagging as RC2
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09:44.05Wobinasmodai: no =)
09:44.10WobinI had that in my version for quite some time
09:44.42vhaarrNiv: I did, and we killed him successfully with it dozens of times
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09:57.40Bliahi
09:57.40BliaI installed an addon, chatbar, and I would like to reset its settings, how can I do that ? should I delete the "cache" folder ?
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10:00.40ElkanoBlia, not the cache folder but check World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\<ACCOUNTNAME>\SavedVariables for a file like chatbar.lua
10:00.44AeyanBlia: What you probably want to delete, you'll find in the <WoW folder>/WTF/Account/<Account Name>/SavedVariables folder
10:01.05AeyanWhat Elkano said =P
10:01.23Elkano4sec ^^
10:07.17asmodaiWobin: so, does it only sort on ilvl for tradegoods or for all?
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10:36.03asmodaiomg
10:36.26asmodaiGoogle invests 100 million US$ in Zynga, the makers of Mafia Wars and Farmville
10:49.07asmodaiowww
10:49.14asmodaiGTX460 unveiled officially
10:50.30asmodaion avg about 15.7% faster than the HD 5830
10:53.26asmodaiAlso power use much decreased
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11:05.52Repo10yata: 03kaytikat * r83 TotemData.lua:
11:05.54RepoCheck for error when weapon imbue not known (low level character)
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11:56.50TelrothIs anyone around to help me debug connecting to a curseforge svn repository over svn+ssh with tortise svn and putty's pagent on windows 7 x64?
12:01.48harlcan
12:01.53harlerf
12:02.00harlwrong channel even
12:02.31harldamn
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12:03.44TelrothI tried asking in #curseforge but got no response, wasn't sure how related the channels were
12:04.02Telrothmay I PM?
12:04.14Xinhuanhello
12:04.28Telrothgood morning :)
12:05.04asmodaiTelroth: doesn't http://tortoisesvn.net/ssh_howto answer it?
12:06.07TelrothTo be specific, I've used TortiseSVN before, and I actively use my private/public key to connect to my server, but cannot get curseforge to accept my key for authentication.
12:07.38TelrothI'd imgagine I've mistyped or incorrectly formatted entering my public key on the curseforge website, but it's copy-pasted from my authorized_keys file on a linux box I use reguarly.
12:07.52Telroth(which appeared to be the format used)
12:10.40asmodaiTelroth: do you get a connection closed unexpectedly?
12:11.31asmodaiMmm, also
12:11.53asmodaisvn+ssh is svn over ssh, can't you use a PuTTY connect to see if PuTTY in and of itself can connect ?
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12:12.26asmodaiWhich could show more what goes well, what does not.
12:13.54Telrothputty closes the window immediately, so I haven't been able to see the output. Attempting to ssh in from my linux box results in Permission Denied (publickey)
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12:15.13asmodaiSounds more like the key setup is not good
12:17.06TelrothI'm not entirely sure that the key-forwarding is set up properly with the linux box though. Give me a moment to finish going over that page you linked me to see if I can get a connection established.
12:20.34TelrothIt seems to be working now if I provide TortiseSVN with the name of a saved PuTTY session instead of a domain name for the host. Thanks for linking me to the howto on their website.
12:27.19asmodainp
12:27.35asmodaiIt's sometimes a bit odd how the behaviour changes from certain hoss to others
12:27.39asmodaiheya kagaro
12:28.03asmodaihopes Cataclysm will fix some gathering node issues
12:33.33kagaroasmodai:  yo im here
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12:38.47asmodaikagaro: So I see
12:42.39kagaroasmodai:  what weird issues you see?
12:43.04asmodaikagaro: Well, I wonder if it's just a deficiency of the map/coords system
12:43.18asmodaikagaro: with the current mapster/gathermate stuff I use routes to plot my gathering
12:43.25asmodaikagaro: On some maps, e.g. Ashenvale
12:43.44asmodaikagaro: You get e.g. herbalism nodes which lie in Stonetalon
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12:43.51kagaroahh, we are gona do a bit of reworking in gathermate for cata like try to account for phasing/levels
12:44.14asmodaiSo I need to manually remove those nodes from the database to get the nonsensical ones out.
12:44.17kagarothe extra nodes in Stonetalon like you see, are a result of data on wowhead from the extract being wrong
12:44.59kagaroasmodai:  I added some code in the data scrape to create excluion areas to be ignoed during harvesting if you ana help build up the exclusion areas
12:48.16asmodaiif you ana, ana->can?
12:48.33kagaroyes
12:48.40asmodaiAh sure
12:48.40kagaroor want to
12:48.58asmodaidata-tools?
12:48.59kagarothe exclusion jsut needs the polygon points in x,y
12:49.36asmodaiOr was it another project?
12:50.32kagaroin the DataTools project, under GatherMate just create a text file called exclusion: with the data per map and ill integrate it in
12:51.10kagaroI have the polygon code in place and test but havent integrated it into the harvestor yet since i didnt have any data points setup yet
12:51.25asmodaiCool, will check it out a bit
12:51.56kagarothe actualy code is in code.rb class Polygon
12:55.04asmodaiAh, core.rb
12:55.19asmodaikagaro: Ruby 1.9 needed or works with 1.8?
12:55.26kagaroworks with 1.8
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12:55.42kagaro1.9 should be fine as well, but my box running the code is 1.8.7
12:56.12asmodaiGot both installed anyway.
12:57.04Xinhuanhow are u doing it kagaro
12:57.35kagarothere is a polygon class, you add the points, then there is a contains point to test a given point inside the polygon
12:59.15asmodaiThe zone maps are all stored in the client I assume?
12:59.50kagaroyes
12:59.55kagaroin the dbc files
13:00.34asmodaihas some interesting thoughts to persue.
13:00.58asmodaikagaro: I'll definitely go look at those exclusions
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13:19.16Megalonpersues his challenge to feed the world
13:19.23Megalonstarting with myself!
13:19.48Mirrormn*pursues
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13:24.17Megalonor that!
13:26.38Stanzilla~seen tuller
13:26.42purltuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5d 13h 53m 58s ago, saying: 'i would guess whenever they feel they've stabilized their changes to the UI enough'.
13:26.46Stanzillawot
13:27.39Xinhuanif only someone can figure out how zones boundaries are defined in the dbc files ;p
13:31.48asmodaiMegalon: One needs to be nourished if one you want to nourish others.
13:32.02asmodaiXinhuan: I'm thinking of some ideas to solve that. Need to see how viable they are.
13:32.11Xinhuanhmm? heh
13:32.35Xinhuanright now the most feasible one would be for you to draw taboo regions in Routes and export that for gathermate polygons ;p
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13:49.15Repo1c9290b: Left-clicking the dataobj icon opens the ARL interface options panel.
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13:54.24asmodaiXinhuan: I'd rather automate it in some way. :)
13:54.47Xinhuani don't see how you would do it
13:54.58Xinhuanshort of flying around on zone boundaries to record
13:55.02Xinhuanand that is more work
13:55.10asmodaiWhich is why I need to test something ^^
13:55.49TelrothI believe the correct expression is "brb science :)" ;)
13:56.45asmodaiWell, given I work for a uni dealing with research projects...
13:57.28Adirelle|workdoes anyone played with the oUF 1.4 tags ? it seems the syntax changed, but it is unclear to me how
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13:57.48Telrothremove the []'s
13:58.06Telrothbefore it was oUF.Tags["[tag]"] = function()
13:58.19Telrothnow it's just oUF.Tags["tag"] = function()
13:58.28Telrothsame for tagevents
13:58.34Adirelle|workI'm not looking at adding tag
13:58.38Telroth(or, that's all I had to do to update)
13:58.38Adirelle|workjust using them
13:58.42Telrothoh
13:58.58Adirelle|workI had things like "[name][( <)status(>)]"
13:59.00TelrothI didn't have to change any of my tagged fontstrings
13:59.02Adirelle|workdoesn't seem to work anymore
13:59.26Telrothah, I wasn't using anything like that, just [name][status]
13:59.43Telrothi'll look at it real quick and see if I note anything.
13:59.58Adirelle|workaccording to the log, it seems it has been updated "to be more robust"
14:00.38Adirelle|workbut firstly I don't see how to use the new syntax with "<" and ">" as part of the resulting string, et secondly, I'm not exactly sure the resulting code is more robust
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14:02.57Adirelle|workhaste, are you still not there ?
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14:17.39TelrothAdirelle|work: As best I can decipher, maybe try [name][( \060)status(\062)]
14:18.08TelrothWhat's the exact error it's giving you? Unable to find tag ")status" or something?
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14:48.36[SW]Dodgedoes someone knows an addon that supports lua text to display stuff in panels on screen? :D
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14:53.27Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r288 Postal.lua: Refactor Postal's about frame slightly
14:59.49Telroth[SW]Dodge: like.. to create a window with uneditable text in it?
15:01.01Telroththat question is extremely vauge, since any addon that uses frames (panels) uses them for the purpose of "display[ing] stuff on screen"
15:06.35[SW]Dodgei mean an addon where i can add make frames where i can set text like in pitbull :D
15:11.01[SW]Dodgesomething like kgpanels + pitbulls luatext in one addon :D
15:12.14Stanzillakgpanels supports text on panels
15:12.28Stanzillayou could write a luatext plugin for it :p
15:14.07[SW]Dodge>.< :D:D
15:15.43[SW]Dodgei wouldn ask if i had an idea how to implement the luatext functionality :D:D i think i just would start to make an own addon with what i need :D
15:15.49kagaro[SW]Dodge:  it would be easy enough to just add it in a script, just get a frame ref and register to luatext
15:16.31[SW]Dodgebut well the kgpanels plugin idea is not that bad if it is easy to get luatext working for "own" frames :D
15:16.57kagaroshouldnt be difficult at all
15:17.08kagarokgPanels has an api to get a ref to the panel in question
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16:55.06sylvanaar_atworki wish i had more time to work on all these fixes
16:55.23sylvanaar_atworkis over-committed
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17:14.21RepoFixing issue where all multicast spells were showing, even if the shaman didn't know them
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17:30.35RepoLowered button strata to Medium - will make this an option if people experience problems with this
17:33.44Kaelteng'morning
17:34.33asmodaikaelten!
17:35.12Repo10yata: 03kaytikat * r86 TotemButton.lua: Fixed incorrect button shape when ButtonFacade disabled
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17:37.16asmodaicatches up on Dr Who
17:37.57Kaeltenasmodai; drwho is always over too quickly
17:38.07asmodaiNot sure which season this is
17:38.16asmodaiI watched part of season 1 when they rebooted it
17:38.22asmodaiand this is with Amelia/Amy
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17:39.48Pneumatusi hate amazon :<
17:40.20asmodaiKaelten: Dr Who -- the living testament that the UK *does* have cute girls
17:40.25Pneumatuspostponed ordering a new tv for a day, and now it's on 1-2 months delivery :<
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17:48.00Pneumatusi hope you're not talking about billie piper
17:48.26asmodaiPneumatus: Which one is that?
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17:49.07asmodaiThat was the blonde one no?
17:49.23Pneumatusshe was Rose
17:49.25Nivvhaarr: I wonder why it never finds any clean targets for me, r5 is uber fucked up btw, at least r8 doesn't spew errors
17:50.25asmodaiahh right
17:50.33asmodainah, she was ok -- typical Brit though
17:50.37asmodaithis redhead is cuter
17:51.08Nivvhaarr: are you using it for 25h or 10h?
17:54.39Kaeltenasmodai: ya she's the componion in the newest season
17:55.57Kaeltenasmodai: ah amy's player is british
17:56.00Kaeltener
17:56.01Kaeltenscottish
17:56.23Kaeltenwhere rose was english
17:58.07sylvanaar_atworkanyone have suggestions for a good ipad case
17:58.14sylvanaar_atworkcant find one he likes
17:58.39Kaeltensylvanaar_atwork: the moleskin inspired ones look nice
17:59.58Kaeltenmoleskine*
18:00.18sylvanaar_atworkgoogles
18:00.30asmodaiKaelten: yeah ok, Scottish :P
18:01.03Kaeltenasmodai: :P
18:01.09Kaeltenmy girlfriend is half scottish
18:01.27sylvanaar_atworkKaelten: like this one ? http://www.unplggd.com/unplggd/ipad/medge-leather-cases-transform-ipad-into-moleskine-110286
18:01.46Kaeltenanytime I accidently use english and england to describe something related to her or her relatives, she goes ballistic
18:01.47winksylvanaar: there's one with a black "felt" look, it's horrible
18:01.54winkafter 2d it looks liek it's a year old
18:01.55asmodaiKaelten: yeah
18:02.19Kaeltensylvanaar_atwork: I was thinking more http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/the-case-another-beautiful-moleskine-like-ipad-case/
18:02.26KaeltenI saw someone with one in the local apple store, he liked it
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18:09.52asmodaiKaelten: Mmm, I do get the idea that they have a more overarching storyline nowadays
18:18.12asmodaiAnd Warehouse 13 is funny
18:18.23asmodaiSyfy, we put the y back in funny.
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18:21.34vhaarrNiv: both
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18:21.48vhaarrNiv: latest revision, obviously
18:21.55vhaarrNiv: did you edit the table in the lua file?
18:21.59Nivof course
18:22.01vhaarrshow me
18:22.11Nivlet me transfer it to work, one sec
18:23.16vhaarrnot sure why you would try r5
18:23.32vhaarrah, it's marked as Beta, wtf
18:25.02Nivyea
18:25.28NivI grabbed r8 and it solved the hundreds of lua errors (30ish per UBP)
18:25.35Nivget that dcc?
18:25.40vhaarrpaste.wowace.com
18:25.45Nivhaha
18:25.47Nivsure
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18:27.28vhaarrobviously that's going to error
18:27.39vhaarrremove the lines with [[ and ]]
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18:27.50Niv...
18:28.02NivI feel dumb
18:28.11Nivthanks
18:29.05Nivwow
18:29.07Niv:P
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18:46.32heathhello
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18:48.12heathgrrr
18:48.34durcynheath: Fisker's the guy to talk to, try whispering him
18:48.42Mirrormnlol
18:48.44heathwhy am i hesitant to do so
18:48.45heathlol
18:48.46Mirrormnevil -.-
18:48.48heathtrade chat trolls
18:48.50heathi know you
18:48.56heathlol
18:49.05durcynhe's just a friendly dane
18:49.35Kalrothheath: Best way is to lurk and watch the channel. Oh and if you got a question, just ask it :)
18:49.50heathty
18:50.01asmodaiDisk Fisker
18:50.29heathso, i guess i have to come up with a cool name to use.. since heath is rather non-azerothian.
18:51.12durcynyou'll get nowhere trying to rp on irc.
18:51.15Kalrothheath: Sure, if you want to roleplay
18:51.32Kalroth(btw, roleplay means you have to whisper Fisker)
18:52.11heathlol.  its funny.. im pvp only, and my guild is primarily the same.  the gm makes constant reference to the roleplayers.  i think ill fit in here nicely.
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19:44.25Repofixed global number nil error. sorry about that. (also removed all trailing spaces)
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19:45.24heathcan anyone help me with coding in a fake raid warning.. like dbm has.  i have everything else correct, now i want to turn my print(msg) into a fake RW.
19:47.10durcynRaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningRame, 'poop', brown)
19:47.46heathty
19:48.04durcynFrame even
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20:15.17heathRaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningRame, 'poop', brown) - is there another way to do it where you can specify duration?
20:15.33DWSRheath: No.
20:15.36DWSRThank god.
20:16.13heathso it HAS to be up for 5 seconds or whatever it is...  that isnt helpful.  anyone have ideas for a workaround?
20:16.24DWSRMake your own frame.
20:16.29heathugg
20:16.31DWSRI'm glad they don't allow you to specify the duration.
20:16.39heathyouve made that clear
20:16.41heathwhy?
20:17.59DWSRExploitation.
20:18.16DWSRAddon authors, while good intentioned, are sometimes a little overzealous.
20:18.46DWSRIf you have to go out of your way to make the notification persistent, you usually think about /what/ you're notifying the player about.
20:18.46nevcairielnot like creating your own frame is that much more trouble
20:18.51DWSRThat too.
20:19.12Nivotherwise you just spam the RaidWarning
20:19.13Nivhehe
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21:04.42Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn 043.3.5-release * r231 : Tagging as 3.3.5-release
21:10.53RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/questminder/. QuestMinder. DigitalSorceress (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
21:11.36RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autorestone/. AutoReStone. CodePro (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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21:19.56Repo- toc bump and locale regen
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21:29.51Repo#RaidWatch_Core/BasePlugins/Notofication:
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22:02.38RepoNorthrend/Halion: use Halion's IDs instead of Sartharion's in the death check
22:03.17Adirelleso haste, I've found 2 typos in oUF (I commented them on github, though I don't know if one receives email for these comments)
22:03.35nevcairielhaste does, but he is away
22:03.57nevcairielanything critical?
22:04.14Adirellehrm
22:05.17Adirellehttp://github.com/haste/oUF/commit/9af636ea32ad457c510cb48f892b421d325a6466#L0R296
22:05.39Adirelle+copy-paste at line 323
22:06.05orionshock_<PROTECTED>
22:06.36Adirelleand nevcairiel, did haste told where he was going with the new tags syntax ?
22:07.00Shadowedoh yea I need to pull that tag stuff in
22:07.01nevcairielthe error you found was already fixed later
22:07.02AdirelleI was using something like "[name][( <)status(>)]" with 1.3 but it seems I'll have a hard time doing the same with the new one
22:07.11ShadowedIt was changed for sanity
22:07.12nevcairielsee latest revs :p
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22:07.19Shadowedthe parsing of () was a huge bitch
22:07.32Adirellehrm... why the hell did my pull failed
22:07.34nevcairieloh wait, not everywhere
22:07.59nevcairielwell, it won't really fail
22:08.09nevcairielunless the author has some broken code anyway
22:08.12nevcairielnot critical
22:08.36AdirelleI figured that point later xD
22:08.56Adirellebut as I was in the middle of converting all my 1.3 code to 1.4, that wasn't obvious
22:10.05Repo10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r26 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets (5 files in 1 directory):
22:10.18Repowidgets will now once again auto populate if a nil list is set
22:10.25AdirelleShadowed, what would be the new syntax for "[( <)status(>)]" ? from I the code I could suppose something like "[ <>status<>]" but I'm quite sure it will fail
22:10.34ShadowedI think that's right
22:10.51ShadowedAnd if it fails, that would be a bug
22:11.02Nivhuh
22:11.11Nivso I tried to host an addon with wowi
22:11.18Nivand I can't upload to the catagory
22:11.19Nivwth
22:11.23ShadowedWhat category?
22:11.27Nivraid addons
22:11.39ShadowedWaht does it sa?
22:11.40NivYou are not authorized to upload to this category.
22:11.55Nivperhaps I've missed something that wowi wants
22:11.56ShadowedHrm, Cairenn ^
22:12.17Nivoh hrm, I think it might be the email change verication
22:12.21Cairennthat'd do it
22:12.26Nivmy old wowi address gets shitloads of spam
22:12.27Shadowedaoops
22:12.28Cairennyou'll need to reconfirm
22:12.29Nivdid you guys get owned? :P
22:12.38Shadowedlike 3 years ago
22:12.40NivI actually blackholed the email address it was so bad
22:12.50ShadowedAlthough I didn't notice any increase in spam
22:12.59NivI have a unique email for it
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22:13.26KaeltenHey guys, we _will_ be getting beta keys.
22:13.28Nivbah, image preview
22:13.35Shadowedjust use my image
22:13.37NivKaelten: I'm just covering my bases ;)
22:13.41Shadowedhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw34949.png
22:13.42Shadowedbest one
22:13.51Nivhaha
22:13.58NivI'll take that as creative license
22:14.00CairennNiv: what's your name on the site?
22:14.05Nivnivfreak, I'm all good now
22:14.08Nivit was just a reconfirm
22:14.10Kaeltenorionshock: refer to my previous statement
22:14.13CairennKaelten: :p
22:14.16CairennNiv: okay
22:14.19KaeltenCairenn: :P
22:14.20NivCairenn: thanks :)
22:14.30Kaeltenno one communicates things to me until it's too late
22:14.33Kaeltenlol
22:14.46Cairennyou need to learn to be proactive :p
22:15.01Kaelten...
22:15.06nevcairielheh
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22:15.43NivKaelten: hey, I hit you up immediately! :)
22:16.22AdirelleShadowed, using the getTagName function from the 1.4 tags.lua : http://paste.wowace.com/2175/
22:16.43ShadowedAdirelle: Hrm, looks like a bug that will have to get fixed
22:17.12Niv#wowinterface getting spammed or something? :P
22:17.20Cairennoh yes
22:17.34NivCairenn: approving DefileWhisper for me would be rad
22:17.34Niv;)
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22:18.21Cairennpatience is a virtue, Niv
22:18.32Cairennit's approved
22:18.32Nivwhat is this word:?
22:18.34Nivpatience?
22:18.36Nivthanks :)
22:19.13AdirelleShadowed, I'm not sure why you (or haste) didn't used a pattern like er, "^%[(.*)>(.-)<(.*)%]$"
22:19.44Cairennyou'll probably have to wait a few minutes for your name to be recognized by our db server, Niv, before it'll allow you to sign up
22:19.58Pneumatusthat looks like an angry ascii monster :<
22:20.00Cairenn(as an author, I mean)
22:20.29ShadowedAdirelle: Haste is the one who wrote the actual code, not me
22:20.36ShadowedI was just going to steal it all for SUF after it was done
22:20.39Shadowedso I'm not sure
22:20.52Repo10rw2: 03kagaro * r531 / (8 files in 4 directories): Updated the rest of the CoT 5 man bosses
22:20.58NivCairenn: It went instantly actually, I've had an account for a long time, I was just too lazy to upload anything I have on wowace
22:21.16Cairennyeah, well
22:21.30Niv:)
22:21.36Nivmostly I was bitter over the spam
22:22.17Nivthe latest beta build still has addons disabled right?
22:22.26Cairenncorrect
22:22.39Nivwell hopefully the talent tree revamp patch flips that again
22:22.55Pneumatusmore frustratingly, it also has worgen questing in outland disabled :<
22:23.02NivI'm a little surprised they let you guys have your keys before they enabled that
22:23.04Pneumatusi doubt they will switch addons back on for another patch or so yet
22:23.16Nivyea, lots of UI changes I suppose
22:23.42Pneumatusa bunch of the existing UI still isnt finished yet anyway
22:23.47ShadowedNo not next patch
22:24.31durcynas long as /run works, i can at least prototype
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22:24.43Pneumatusyer, /run works
22:24.55Nivwhat a pain though :)
22:25.07durcyncopy and paste wowlua line by line or something
22:25.11Nivhaha
22:25.33IbliseAnyone know if the Magic Rune mod is dead? Its been a long long time since it was update / author was last active
22:25.34Pneumatuswell you could copypaste 255 chars at a time into macros :)
22:25.51durcyndon't need macros for that, as long as i don't reloadui
22:26.00NivIblise: neotron is ramping down his wow play
22:26.09Nivhe's not even really raiding with us anymore, just sitting in vent and mocking
22:26.22Adirellein the one hand, I feel the urge to get a key, in the other hand, I don't find fair to upload an addon on wowi just for a key
22:26.28Stanzillawtb cata engb client downloader mirror!
22:26.32IbliseAny chance he'd be willing to tweak his mod a tiny bit?
22:26.38NivAdirelle: I think it's win/win
22:26.53NivIblise: he's here, ask him :)
22:26.57durcynIblise: if you ask nicely, he might give you commit access
22:27.01AdirelleI don't think I'm going to update that addon on every update I'll do
22:27.18NeoTronsup?
22:27.19Adirelle(I mean to upload the new version on wowi)
22:27.31Iblise@durcyn, unforunately I have no idea how to actually mod
22:27.38durcynNeoTron: this guy says your code sucks
22:27.39NeoTronIblise: it's not DEAD but I'm not really developing it. I mean it still works and all
22:27.41NivAdirelle: eh, just do it for release versions
22:27.45Adirellekaelten will hopefully have good news for us soon
22:27.55NeoTronand I do plan to make whatever changes is required for cata
22:27.56Iblise@neotron, I was hoping you'd consider adding on rune grace period to it
22:28.05NeoTronwhat do you mean?
22:28.09KaeltenAdirelle: We're going to be taking care of you guys, we'll be handling it through the rewards store
22:28.17KaeltenI'll be making an announcement soon.
22:28.45IbliseA couple of other rune mods have come out that feature rune grace period tracking, unforunately, they aren't anywhere as clean as yours
22:29.03Adirelleok
22:29.21IbliseI assume you know what rune grace period is right?
22:29.32NeoTronThat was my question... :P
22:29.39NeoTronI don't quite understand what you mean with that
22:31.05Nivwe tricked him into raiding his warlock
22:31.11Niv;)
22:34.30IbliseTook it to private chat so I wouldn't spam the rest of you with detailed explanations on DK mechanics
22:34.41sbuyay
22:34.43durcyni'm kind of curious now too.
22:35.04sbuthanks Cairenn :o
22:35.21Cairennsbu: you're welcome sweetie :)
22:35.50CairennYou know we always take care of you guys :)
22:36.53NeoTrondurcyn: basically the time period after a rune becomes ready, but before you lose time on the next refresh by using it
22:37.01Stanzillastill wtb cata engb client downloader mirror! :(
22:37.26NeoTronbasically you have a grace period to use a rune, and it'll refresh faster the second time but at most once every 10 seconds
22:37.32NivStanzilla: they are easy enough to find
22:37.43NivStanzilla: since they have had a lot of private server interest
22:38.11NeoTronjust a way to visualize that timeout somehow I suppos
22:38.21sbuCairenn: do you have some information when addons will be active again? (on beta ptr)
22:38.38CairennNot at present sbu, but we'll let you know as soon as we do
22:38.40Nivofficial stance was sometime after they finish tweaking the default UI
22:38.48Cairennhopefully within the next couple patches
22:38.55Cairennbut no promises
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22:39.32sbuyea, just wondering why giving out addon author keys so soon (soon as in "no addons allowed at the moment" ;)) :)
22:39.54Pneumatusahahahahaha pro bug... you can buy stuff from vendors and they don't take your gold
22:39.59ShadowedWould you rather not be able to enjoy the beta? :P
22:40.05ShadowedI'm sure we could arrange something!
22:40.05Cairenngets the "ooooh, new content!" dealt with, so you're ready to work on the addons once they are enabled
22:40.07jnwhitehsbu: because we need addon authors to test the UI system as it is
22:40.14jnwhitehyou'll be able to give better feedback than the average player
22:40.16durcynoh, gift horse, you have such nice teeth.
22:40.21jnwhitehsince you understand simple things like state, etc.
22:40.21Shadowedgold teeth
22:40.22sbujnwhiteh: mh right...
22:40.23Pneumatustime to finish filling all my chars with portable holes
22:40.38NivPneumatus: in beta?
22:40.40RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/cataclysm-beta-keys-for-authors/
22:40.46PneumatusNiv: ofc
22:40.46Cairennall kinds of good reasons to get you guys set up now
22:41.10RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/cataclysm-beta-keys-for-addon-authors/
22:41.24durcynno book authors allowed.
22:41.28Nivarms race go
22:42.22jnwhitehI gain more curse points from HandyEggFinder than I do from WowLua
22:42.23jnwhiteh=)
22:42.26Odlawhow will they do keys when blizz isn't doin keys? only thought is that they send our emails to blizz.. but what if our email isn't the same as the one we login with..
22:42.27Nivhaha
22:42.42Nivdoesn't threatlib still get a shitload of downloads?
22:42.46jnwhitehOdlaw: Blizz is doing keys
22:42.49sbuOdlaw: should be real "keys" then
22:42.51jnwhitehWowi just sent out 50
22:42.55Odlawah
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22:43.24durcynhard to say how 'public' they are yet, but i know several rounds of keys have gone out to certain raiding guilds
22:43.34Nivthey did one random wave
22:43.38Nivsecond should be this week
22:43.48ShadowedKaelten: nice test item
22:43.51kagaroI hear thursday for net batch
22:45.01kagarorofl puppy love
22:45.04orionshockgrrr... i got in late, wowi's already assigned out the first 50 keys...
22:45.10Nivhehe
22:45.11orionshockim no 54 :(
22:45.18Niv<- 59
22:45.37durcyn20, somehow.
22:45.43kagaro43 here
22:45.44Nivdurcyn: so you got one?
22:45.52durcynyessir
22:45.54Nivcool
22:46.07durcyn13.4 gibabytes coming down at a whole 262Kb/s
22:46.07orionshockCairenn, just a question.. what all info do u send to blizzard to have them qualify someone for a beta key (in the sense that they only give you one) ?
22:46.13durcynso, ask me again next month
22:46.16Nivhaha
22:46.20NivI have the client already installed
22:46.23Nivjust grabbing the last patch
22:46.27Shadoweddurcyn: don't worry, you only have 4GB of patches after that
22:46.28Niv4 min eta
22:46.29kagaro900Kb/s here durcyn
22:46.29Cairennorionshock: hmm?
22:46.47durcynShadowed: Joy!
22:47.02CairennWe decide if you qualify as an author
22:47.04KaeltenShadowed: test item?
22:47.05orionshockwell, as we all know, we only get one key for beta, do u send blizzard any more than our email when we sign up for a beta key on wowi?
22:47.08ShadowedKaelten: the pug
22:47.18Shadowedhttps://store.wowace.com/items/22-test-item/
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22:47.27NivI really screw myself by using two bnet accounts
22:47.33Nivof course I got 6 beta keys for wrath...
22:48.10vhaarrShadowed: does the wowi mod uploader java thingy support this crazy wowace/curseforge .pkgmeta for fetching dependencies yet?
22:48.16Pneumatusafaik if you have multiple wow accounts on a single bnet account they all get enabled, and you get a multiplicative amount of copies
22:48.16MegalonKaelten: https://store.wowace.com/items/22-test-item/
22:48.17Megalon;)
22:48.20Cairennorionshock: or do you mean to make sure that people aren't doubling up on keys?  if so, Kaelten and I talk
22:48.27Megalonoh Shadowed posted it too :o
22:48.30Shadowedvhaarr no, I did a private one that can handle ripping from wowace thought
22:48.36jnwhitehvhaarr: no it doesn't
22:48.37Shadowedlet me see if it has anything personal in it, I can upload it
22:48.43vhaarrShadowed: oh you did, that would be awesome
22:48.55vhaarrthat's the reason I don't keep my stuff very recent on wowi, I am so lazy :(
22:48.57durcynthis new installer is a vast improvement, though, no more intermediate binary blob download
22:48.59jnwhitehmainly because no one's asked, so I haven't implemented it.
22:49.01orionshockCairenn, ah, ic
22:49.10IbliseShadowed, I'm assuming you are the author of the shadow unit frames mod, and since I'm here, one my biggest peeves, is that between my two characters I have the focus frame in different locations, and every time I relog I have to reset the location
22:49.18ShadowedIblise you're dsoing it wrong
22:49.19vhaarrjnwhiteh: oh, Shadowed is listed as author on the wowi page, so I poked him
22:49.20Shadowedjnwhiteh it would be nice
22:49.24Shadowedvhaarr :P
22:49.27ShadowedI am
22:49.28Nivhow many downloads do you need per curse point anyway?
22:49.31ShadowedNot sure what jnwhiteh was talking about
22:49.32jnwhitehvhaarr: I meant the wowi svn/git system
22:49.34jnwhitehsorry =)
22:49.36kagaroa god bit
22:49.37Shadowedoh
22:49.39vhaarrright
22:49.40IbliseHow do I a different location for the focus frame for each toon then?
22:49.40vhaarr:P
22:49.51durcynIblise: profiles.
22:50.38Nivthe more important question is, how do you deliver a puppy online
22:50.45Shadowedcarefully
22:50.48vhaarrKaelten: so I'll just be able to opt in for the keys in the wowace.com store then when they become available? I feel this point was not clarified enough in the article
22:51.01Pneumatusthe internet is a series of tubes, so you just shove it down a tube
22:51.05vhaarrbut perhaps I'm just too tired to read properly
22:51.48NivPneumatus: so bonzi-puppy?
22:52.19IbliseThank you, suf is now adjusted
22:52.45Megalononly 1 point per puppy
22:53.54NivI think I want mine mailed, can I do book rate?
22:54.23Shadowedvhaarr: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7633
22:54.50vhaarrShadowed: fantastic, thank you
22:55.13Shadowedjava WoWIUploader -u Shadowed -curse-page "elitistgroup" -api-key "####################" -desc-log -ftitle "Elitist Group" -repo-log "git@git.wowace.com:wow/elitistgroup/mainline.git"
22:55.14Kaeltenvhaarr: you'll be able to opt in via the store later today
22:55.16ShadowedThat's an example of what you do
22:55.28ShadowedIt'll rip the change log + version + zip from wowace and upload it
22:55.42IbliseIs Azethoth still taking care of autobar?
22:55.52Kaeltenvhaarr: and then when keys are made available we'll email the keys to you
22:56.01vhaarrKaelten: that is brilliant
22:56.27Odlawhave they enabled addons on beta yet?
22:56.31vhaarrno
22:56.37vhaarrIblise: no, feel free to take over
22:56.40Odlawany rumors as to when?
22:56.47vhaarrwhen hell freezes over
22:56.52Odlawsighs
22:57.10vhaarrseriously though since they disabled lua errors by default, I feel like blizzard has introduced more and more bugs in the default UI
22:57.18vhaarrso I am not optimistic about the time frame here
22:57.21Odlawyeesh
22:57.30Pneumatusthe MOST frustrating thing is the world map lua errors every time you click it
22:57.39Pneumatusdue to the feedback tool being a steaming heap of crap
22:57.46Odlawsounds more like alpha
22:57.57IbliseHaha, I'm sorry for asking about mods, just wanted to know if the authors are still working on them or they've called it quits
22:58.00Nivit was still pretty rough a couple patches back
22:58.05NivI can't imagine they ironed that much out
22:58.10vhaarrIblise: start coding
22:58.43Pneumatusi've not seen any real 'bugs' apart from the absence of the guild tab and the errors on the worldmap from the feedback tool
22:58.58Pneumatusthere are display issues on the talent frame, but that's being re-done
22:59.11Nivflying around will generally find you a lot of crashes/dismounts
22:59.14ShadowedI need to rewrite the uploader script into ruby or something thought
22:59.18Shadowedso it can actually work well
22:59.21Shadowedrather than being hacked together Java
22:59.23IbliseI was heavily involved in morrowind modding, modeling and texturing and it took all the fun out of the game, all I did was work on the mods vs playing
22:59.25PneumatusUI bugs I mean, Niv
22:59.28Nivsure
22:59.44Nivlogin server is currently busy
22:59.45Nivhehe
22:59.45Pneumatusmost of the random DCs are gone too
22:59.57Pneumatusa few patches back you were lucky to go anywhere without 132'ing
23:00.04Nivyea
23:00.41harlwhy do i lose my connection to the in-game battle.net service every now and then. is there a problem on my side or is it some kind of general battle.net inconsistency issue..?
23:00.45Pneumatusi guess debugging the 132s is a lot easier when you're not trying to work out if other addons are involved though, at least
23:00.56Pneumatusharl: the bnet servers are crapola
23:00.59Pneumatusthey are up and down more than
23:01.00Pneumatuswell
23:01.04Pneumatussomething that is up and down a lot
23:01.04vhaarrShadowed: personally, I'd like to see a perl version
23:01.07vhaarrruns
23:01.16ShadowedI said work well
23:01.22Shadowednot hacked together even worst than Java :p
23:01.26vhaarr^^
23:01.30NeoTronPneumatus: the crash they had was a server side issue
23:01.35kagaroShadowed:  go ruby go
23:01.39harlPneumatus: i see. thanks.
23:01.43NeoTronPneumatus: I suspect it's part of the randomizing of opcodes they are doing to make it harder to sandbox
23:02.31PneumatusNeoTron: it's not uncommon to have addons client crash with 132s either though, in LK beta at least a bunch of addons were 132ing when trying to do stuff with textures
23:03.28Odlawi remember
23:03.33Pneumatusespecially when the clients are compiled with asserts enabled
23:03.37*** join/#wowace Tuller (~Tuller@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
23:03.40Shadowedwowace store won't let me buy 8 pugs
23:03.43Pneumatusthat just leads to a pile of whalefail
23:03.45ShadowedI am quite sad
23:03.56NivShadowed: bakers dozens only
23:03.57Shadowedglares at Kaelten
23:04.24Nivchrist, my buddy just got 100mbit into his condo for $60 (seattle)
23:04.31Nivthat makes my fios feel weak
23:05.00Odlawthat makes me cry with my cable.
23:05.07Nivhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/877561771.png
23:05.11Nivtesting pretty nicely too
23:05.13KaeltenShadowed: lmao
23:05.22ShadowedI am outraged by this Kaelten and demand 8
23:05.25Shadowedyou can bring them to Blizzcon
23:05.35sbuOdlaw: why? whats wrong with cable?
23:05.55Odlawmy cable isn't 100 mbps
23:06.00*** join/#wowace Xuerian (~core@h128.73.53.24.cable.rdwd.jetbroadband.com)
23:06.13Odlawmine is 12 :(
23:06.23sbui have a 100mbit cable connection here (sadly 100M downstream and only 2.5M up... *sigh*) - its also ~60$ (49 eur :p)
23:06.32Niv2.5m up
23:06.33Nivouch
23:06.38NivI'm 20mbit symmetric fios
23:06.44MegalonKaelten: are the puppies cash-and-carry? ;/
23:06.46Nivcould go to 50/25(30?)
23:06.55Nivbut I don't want to pay the premium
23:07.22KaeltenNiv: I have 50/10 at home
23:07.26Kaeltenthey clame it's 50/5
23:07.33Kaeltenbut I'm always able to get 10
23:07.35Odlawi guess on the plus side.. i have a slightly longer time frame before i reach my 250 gig limit
23:08.30sbuno limit here ;)
23:08.36Odlawyet
23:08.44harlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1190772/What-squeak-Daring-mouse-whos-boss-scares-leopard-steals-lunch.html
23:08.45Shadowedno 'limit'
23:08.46sbunah, there wont be a limit
23:08.47NivKaelten: that's backwards, but in a good way :)
23:09.01Nivno limits on fios atm
23:09.03Odlawthat's what i thought when i first went from dialup to high speed
23:10.00Odlawbut then again.. your isp might like to spend money on infrastructure instead of on .. well i dunno what my isp spends it on.
23:10.09sbupr0n!_
23:10.10sbu!?
23:10.14Stanzillabeer
23:10.15Nivcocain
23:10.34benMan, an ISP is the one place where spending it on infrastructure and spending it on porn amounts to much the same.
23:10.37KaeltenNiv: I've managed to get up to 110 down before
23:10.42Nivnice
23:10.46Nivwho is your provider?
23:11.06Odlawi'd hope they spend it on porn.. since my logic says that if you want porn, you must have bandwidth
23:15.44harlyet, that doesn't automatically include the converse argument.
23:16.06IbliseIf you have bandwidth you must have porn?
23:16.15harlthat one exactly.
23:17.31Odlawdoes ones collection indicate the size of your bandwidth?
23:17.42Nivno, just your persistence
23:17.53harlthat's odd.
23:19.16Xuerianvhaarr: Geif your minimap texture.
23:21.44vhaarrXuerian: which one are you referring to?
23:21.54Xuerianvhaarr: The simplesquare looking one.
23:22.23Nivclearly more people need to signup for their wowi beta keys
23:22.52Nivif they are doing 50 per batch
23:23.08sbuhehe
23:23.49vhaarrXuerian: I can mail it, privmsg me your e-mail
23:24.53vhaarrand where did you see that?
23:25.23Xuerianvhaarr: In your last upload to wowi
23:25.53vhaarrah blockoland
23:26.00XuerianYeah, that one. New?
23:27.16vhaarrno, just new to wowi
23:27.28XuerianThe texture, I mean :p
23:27.43vhaarrsent
23:27.46vhaarrit's old
23:27.56XuerianAh. Thanks!
23:28.00vhaarrnot really a "texture" though
23:28.40Odlawwhat makes you think they wait until wowi gets 50 people.. they could just be giving wowi 50 keys per week .. if they need them
23:28.44XuerianHeh, well, it'll work.
23:28.55NivOdlaw: it's what shadowed said at least
23:29.03Shadowedwhat did I say
23:29.04Shadowedoh
23:29.18Niv"We're (or Dolby more accurately) is doing batches of 50 right now."
23:29.26Nivto be exacrt
23:29.26ShadowedWe have more than 50 keys available :p
23:29.27Nivexact*
23:29.29Odlawbatches of 50 doesn't necessarily mean when wowi gets 50 tho?
23:29.35Shadowedbut Dolby is giving them out to people in batches of 50
23:29.43Odlawoh
23:30.05ShadowedWe have plenty don't worry :P
23:30.23Odlawwell, that's just me being a pesimist :)
23:30.35Nivhow many registered/active addon authors on wowi anyway?
23:30.42NivI've always gotten the sense that there's like 200-300 tops
23:31.02Nivand maybe 25 of those people make 90% of the addons used? :)
23:31.05vhaarrwell I'll be more active now that the java uploader works again, but I don't update my addons that often anyway
23:31.17vhaarr"works again", with wowace, that is
23:31.26Nivyea, that's nice
23:31.29ShadowedI want to do a website or something some point
23:31.29Odlawi think it's more like 90% of the people use addons made by 25 people
23:31.31Shadowedthat just lets you auto sync
23:31.31orionshocknow that's odd
23:31.44orionshock<PROTECTED>
23:32.10orionshockreturns nothing, but if i enable the in game console and put in the same, it actually gives me my email address.
23:32.42vhaarrit stores the last login if you enable that checkbox at the login screen I believe
23:32.58vhaarrif you turn that off it should not be populated
23:38.16DashkalKaelten: I hope you forgive me for hammering on the store waiting for that new item :P
23:38.37KaeltenDashkal: not a problem
23:39.01NivI suspect it can handle the load
23:39.16XuerianWhat new item?
23:39.20Nivthe pug clearly
23:39.24Nivor cata beta key
23:40.18harli hate when i heal the crap out of people and they don't even care to type a simple cu or bye before leaving.
23:40.43Nivthis is what LFD has brought us
23:40.48Nivyou're just a faceless healer
23:40.56Nivthey will notice you if you fail
23:41.13harlyes, i know
23:41.21orionshockhumm... no but i did get it to say "Access Denied" in the wow console :)
23:44.22harlif it'd hurt to be ignorant and shit towards unknown players, 90% of all wow community would cringe in agony.
23:44.26Odlawshould ask blizzard to give us a special addon author pet :)
23:45.11orionshockharl, yes it would....
23:46.20NeoTronorionshock: it's because logins are secret... not like anyone else will ever know your login nama...
23:46.31NeoTron...except if you want to add them as a real friend (TM)
23:47.30ckknighthowdy, all
23:47.55Kaeltensuprised Dashkal hasn't noticed yet
23:47.55harlloopholes everywhere.
23:47.56harlhi ck
23:50.43Nivso uh
23:50.46Nivwhere do I put my email?
23:50.59Nivor add it to cart
23:51.11orionshockzomg it's the ever elusive ckknight
23:51.19ckknightas you add the item to your cart, you stick your bnet ID in there
23:51.23ckknighthowdy, orionshock
23:51.35NivI see no entry field?
23:51.43ckknightyou on the right item?
23:51.46Nivhttps://store.wowace.com/items/22-wow-cataclysm-author-beta/
23:51.59NivI can try it in chrome
23:52.02Nivor safari
23:52.04ckknightyou see "Redeem WoW Cataclysm Author Beta" box?
23:52.10Nivnope
23:52.14ckknightyou an author?
23:52.15ckknight:P
23:52.17Nivyes
23:52.21Nivand logged in
23:52.22ckknighton wowace?
23:52.26Nivyea
23:52.31ckknightwhat's your username?
23:52.35Nivnivfreak
23:52.59ckknighthmm
23:53.21Nivno dice in safari either
23:53.48Shadowedckknight it works fine for me
23:53.50Shadowedlatest Chrome
23:54.00Nivhrm
23:54.03Nivlet me try chrome then
23:54.03ckknightyea, I think Niv is giving off bad vibes
23:54.05ckknightgonna look closer
23:54.07NeoTronso the question is, can I get an addon author key even though I already have the beta key? :P
23:54.08Shadowed<1 minute ago0.0000Redeem from storeOrder #1016
23:54.19ckknightNeoTron: we'll deny you, but you could try.
23:54.19Caleb|am I allowed to send my 1 key to someone else, since I already have beta access?
23:54.25ckknightno, Caleb|
23:54.35Caleb|dang
23:54.41ckknightwe want all the authors to get keys first
23:54.50ckknightonce that's done, we'll stop caring as much
23:54.52Caleb|he is an author too
23:54.54Caleb|he is just sleeping
23:55.01ckknightwake him up, then :P
23:55.12Caleb|fuck that, he'd rage on me
23:55.13sbuis it fisker?
23:55.19Nivok, well I must be blackslisted for talking bad about ckknight ;)
23:55.23Nivno dice in chrome either
23:55.57Nivckknight: same qualification as for premium I assume?
23:56.15ckknightit says you're an author
23:56.17ckknightI'm looking into it
23:56.24Nivthanks
23:56.38vhaarrckknight: hm, can I get you to change the details on another store order I have in currently?
23:56.48vhaarrseems I can't edit it directly myself
23:57.07vhaarrand I am afraid that if I cancel it and reorder, I might be put behind in the queue, if there is one
23:59.18Nivckknight: thanks
23:59.33ckknightNiv: you're welcome
23:59.45Nivor wait
23:59.48Nivan error checking out
23:59.48Nivhaha
23:59.51ckknightvhaarr: k, what is it?
23:59.54ckknightNiv: keep trying
23:59.59ckknightNiv: probably thread contention issues
23:59.59Nivthere it goes

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