| 00:03.33 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r188 channelnames.lua: remove UTF header. |
| 00:07.57 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r71 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:07.58 | Repo | Code reorganization work. Options tree and default settings definitions moved out of core and into options.lua. Moved definitions of "global variables" out of core.lua and into globals.lua. |
| 00:13.04 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r504 / (14 files in 10 directories): #RaidWatch_Core/Porototypes: |
| 00:13.05 | Repo | - Changed to the new role aware enable state for all warning prototypes. |
| 00:13.07 | Repo | #RaidW |
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| 00:30.11 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r505 RaidWatch_Core/Prototypes (2 files in 1 directory): #RaidWatch_Core/Prototypes: |
| 00:30.13 | Repo | - Improve the layout in the details window for Warnings and Messages. |
| 00:30.14 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Debug: |
| 00:30.16 | Repo | - Removed debug print on event trigger. |
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| 01:14.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-32-g2c7e9d5 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 01:14.13 | Repo | 2c7e9d5: Split some code which is commonly used by GUI code off into its own file. |
| 01:14.15 | Repo | 9e2c197: Split the code for the tabs off into its own file. |
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| 01:53.41 | Repo | 10mui: 03Xocide 07master * v0.3-1-g0ad9b4b mMicroMenu.lua: [+1 commit] Trying to fix micro menu bugs |
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| 02:12.33 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r506 RaidWatch.toc: |
| 02:12.35 | Repo | - Fix for ticket #50: Include LibGroupTalents-1.0 in OptionalDeps for no-lib version. |
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| 02:21.24 | Repo | 10rw2: 03mangeg * r507 RaidWatch_Plugins (3 files in 2 directories): #Added new plugin RaidSpecs: |
| 02:21.26 | Repo | - Can show notifications when people change spec and role. |
| 02:21.27 | Repo | - In future will have a GUI that shows everyones current spec and role. |
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| 03:24.03 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r12 LKAnnounce.lua: Fixed some configuration screen bugs |
| 03:24.05 | Repo | Added announcement for pulling aggro on Raging Spirits |
| 03:24.07 | Repo | Added experimental position tracking for Defiles |
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| 05:16.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-34-gbaa2dc6 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 05:16.41 | Repo | baa2dc6: Moved SetTooltipScripts() and GenericCreateButton() to Interface/Common.lua |
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| 05:28.24 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r13 LKAnnounce.lua: Fixed some run-time encounter bugs |
| 05:28.26 | Repo | Greatly reduced memory needed for position tracking |
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| 06:18.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-36-gd24aa67 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 06:18.48 | Repo | d24aa67: Improved search editbox functionality - focus is only lost when escape is pressed, not when every letter has been deleted - in that case, the text is reset and highlighted for type-over. |
| 06:18.49 | Repo | aa49d9d: Fixed bad reference to the search editbox. |
| 06:29.48 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r288 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 06:29.50 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 06:29.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r269 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 06:30.01 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 06:30.07 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release29 * r289 : Weekly Tag - #29 |
| 06:30.14 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release29 * r270 : Weekly Tag - #29 |
| 06:33.14 | Repo | 10libbnaddonmsg-1-0 (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r4 LibBNAddonMsg-1.0.lua: Cache b.net data for a performance increase. |
| 06:33.28 | Repo | Also, check whether target is in WoW (not any other, future, b.net game) before sending message. |
| 06:35.27 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r72 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 06:35.29 | Repo | Adds options for combining different mount speeds into groups - for example if you want your 310 and 280 mounts to be part of the same pool rather than always having a 310 (of which a user may only have one or two) summoned in preference of any of their 280's. |
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| 06:38.28 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04BETA v3.3.11 - combine speeds * r73 : Tagging as BETA v3.3.11 - combine speeds |
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| 06:53.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-37-gbae1ff8 Frame.lua: [+1 commit] Removed item_id as a search option, as it's only really useful for development - this allows searching on specific skill levels. |
| 07:14.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-38-g45555bb Interface/Tabs.lua: [+1 commit] Fix reference to Player. |
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| 07:23.05 | asmodai | yawns |
| 07:35.48 | asmodai | nevcairiel / koaschten : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d58moc2YB6M |
| 07:35.50 | asmodai | XD |
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| 07:54.07 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7522 Northrend/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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| 08:03.09 | ramoz | login server down? (eu) |
| 08:03.41 | Dessa | yes. |
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| 08:18.56 | Dessa | ~wowalert |
| 08:18.57 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 08:44.48 | asmodai | ok, in Darkshore the hurricane effects are nice |
| 08:45.33 | TNSe | NOES |
| 08:45.36 | TNSe | I needs to be in betas! |
| 08:45.49 | nevcairiel | darkshore in general is nice, although i only saw it without mobs :p |
| 08:46.08 | koaschten | charcopy broken :( |
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| 08:49.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_inFnx5qtJQ&hd=1 |
| 08:49.24 | asmodai | nevcairiel: might need to skip to 6-7 minutes |
| 08:49.37 | nevcairiel | i wont be tainted by your silly youtube movies! |
| 08:50.14 | asmodai | >_< |
| 08:50.44 | asmodai | taints nevcairiel |
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| 09:07.01 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r44 / (4 files in 1 directory): further refinements of the queue system |
| 09:07.03 | Repo | fixed(?) initialization routines to avoid extraneous frame openings |
| 09:07.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r7523 Northrend/Halion.lua: Halion berserk is 8 min |
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| 09:31.34 | vhaarr | seems the latest ubuntu maverick kernel has the fix for wow+wine |
| 09:40.10 | Slaren | is it possible to use a texture as a alpha mask ? |
| 09:40.32 | Primer | FUCK!!!!!!! |
| 09:40.38 | Primer | They let me die on Sindragosa |
| 09:40.55 | Primer | and they managed to kill her |
| 09:41.17 | Primer | I was the other tank |
| 09:41.24 | Primer | now I have to wait yet ANOTHER week |
| 09:42.07 | Primer | Despite the fact that someone managed to frost tomb like 5 people |
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| 10:03.39 | harl | hello |
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| 10:13.10 | Slaren | can anyone confirm that other than in the minimap, it is not possible to use mask textures? thanks |
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| 11:05.36 | Xinhuan | Slaren, only minimap and their "char/bank frame" thingo |
| 11:05.45 | Xinhuan | when u interact with NPCs |
| 11:06.05 | Slaren | the portraits ? |
| 11:06.46 | asmodai | roars |
| 11:08.13 | Xinhuan | yea |
| 11:08.28 | Slaren | ah well, that sucks |
| 11:08.30 | Slaren | thanks |
| 11:47.28 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.familiedevos.nl/orange/orange.jpg XD |
| 11:48.10 | Stanzilla | wtb working login servers |
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| 12:12.24 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): Core.lua: Added instrumentation for future bug hunting |
| 12:12.26 | Repo | QuestLogFrame.lua: Fix "Shift-clicking a quest results in lua error" |
| 12:14.01 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r38 MoncaiQuestTracker.toc: Version increment to reflect game version |
| 12:14.46 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v3.3.5-beta * r39 : Tagging as 3.3.5-beta |
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| 12:44.57 | asmodai | oh wow, YouTube has now the possibility to do 4096x3072 formats |
| 12:47.34 | Megalon | that's a lot of pixels |
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| 12:49.12 | asmodai | yea |
| 12:49.18 | asmodai | 4k format it seems |
| 12:49.46 | asmodai | Apparently it's digital cinema |
| 12:50.39 | asmodai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_%284096%C3%972160%29_resolution |
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| 13:45.23 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r189 / (2 files in 1 directory): bump to v3.75 |
| 13:46.49 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude 04v3.75 * r190 : Tagging as v3.75 |
| 13:56.17 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, is that you that added me to steam or some random other stan |
| 13:56.45 | Stanzilla | me |
| 13:59.54 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r114 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Fix for chat box issues. |
| 14:02.06 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.11 * r115 : Tagging as v0.5.11 |
| 14:04.20 | Megalon | STALKER |
| 14:06.34 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2724 / (3 files in 3 directories): Added pet/mount cata section |
| 14:10.04 | nevcairiel | asmodai: never heard of quad hd before? :d |
| 14:11.02 | nevcairiel | oh well, it appears the cinema format of it is even a bit higher, still |
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| 15:01.05 | asmodai | nevcairiel: A long time ago |
| 15:01.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: When I was digging through resolution formats |
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| 15:31.15 | harl | how can i find out in-game which addon hooks to a certain frame or function? |
| 15:33.56 | arkanes | you can't really |
| 15:34.02 | arkanes | what're you trying to do exactly? |
| 15:34.45 | harl | it seems that my nQuestLog has been broken by something between yesterday and today, producing an error related to AceHook and something called "ShowLog", but the only other addon including the string "ShowLog" in any of its code is GrimReaper and that hasn't been updated for months. |
| 15:35.04 | arkanes | can you pastebin the error? |
| 15:38.26 | harl | there: .. http://paste.wowace.com/2171/ |
| 15:39.39 | arkanes | are you the nQuestLog dev? |
| 15:39.56 | harl | no |
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| 15:44.00 | arkanes | hmm |
| 15:45.04 | harl | the only other addon including Waterfall files is oRA2 for me, which is deactivated anyway, and didn't get an update lately either. |
| 15:45.27 | arkanes | its only showing waterfall because the erroring code is being triggered by a menu click |
| 15:45.33 | harl | so i don't know where to look for the cause of the error. |
| 15:45.45 | harl | hm |
| 15:47.01 | arkanes | its probably profile corruption |
| 15:47.13 | arkanes | or similar |
| 15:47.44 | arkanes | in modules/Comments/Comments.lua, line 58, note how it's adding/removing a hook based on whether its supposed to be enabled or not |
| 15:48.01 | arkanes | the error you're getting is because either the hook removal failed when you disabled it, or it its being enabled twice |
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| 15:53.01 | harl | i see, thanks. i've now reloaded another two times and it seems to be gone and only caused again when i open nQuestLog's options and do certain things. |
| 15:53.02 | arkanes | ... the top hit for AceModuleCore is "Seductive Art Photography" |
| 15:53.56 | arkanes | harl: there's likely a state managment but in nQuestLogs option handler so it ends up enabling its modules more than once sometimes |
| 15:54.02 | arkanes | s/but/bug/ |
| 15:55.46 | Repo | 10rw2: 03kagaro * r508 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:55.48 | Repo | #RaidWatch_Icons: Refactor of icon code, will now reflect the order specific in the boss module. #RaidWatch_Options adjust sorting to match the boss module declarions on order of marks being put out. |
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| 15:59.50 | kagaro | when i blizz gonna fix thier memory bug in the client I wonder |
| 16:00.19 | asmodai | Yeah right |
| 16:00.41 | kagaro | cause you know i love getting tickets with i endable x and it crashed after killing y |
| 16:04.13 | pompy | yeah |
| 16:04.18 | pompy | 90% of the time i log out |
| 16:04.19 | pompy | CRASH |
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| 16:04.42 | kagaro | every 4th or 5th reload my wow hangs |
| 16:04.44 | pompy | though it seems the sv get saved b4 the crash |
| 16:05.13 | pompy | yeah its dumb |
| 16:08.42 | harl | i'm also getting an error #132 about every week. no freezes though and no other errors either. |
| 16:09.50 | kagaro | nice |
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| 16:10.33 | kagaro | anyone see Predators movie? |
| 16:10.48 | ulic | in about 5 hours I'm gonna |
| 16:12.38 | harl | :) |
| 16:13.57 | asmodai | kagaro: nope |
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| 16:57.42 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r116 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fixes for the refactor that broke 0.5.11 |
| 16:58.43 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.12 * r117 : Tagging as v0.5.12 |
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| 18:31.20 | kagaro | man people are still all up in arms abotu real id arent they |
| 18:31.41 | nevcairiel | but why |
| 18:31.47 | nevcairiel | the forum thing was cancelled |
| 18:32.07 | kagaro | no still people running around about the fake GS videos |
| 18:34.33 | kagaro | if its that big of a deal for anyone they can go to parentl controls and turn it off and put on BlizzBugSuck .. problem solved |
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| 18:50.10 | asmodai | steals kagaro's realid |
| 18:50.17 | kagaro | go ahead |
| 18:50.32 | kagaro | my realid isnt my full name |
| 18:50.50 | kagaro | google search it and bam 327k results |
| 18:54.02 | asmodai | orders pizza for all of them |
| 18:58.12 | koaschten | well one point they may have is, you still can see people's real name if they are friends of your friends.... |
| 18:58.33 | sbu | err.. so? |
| 18:58.50 | sbu | can i be realid friends with you now? :p |
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| 19:00.56 | asmodai | sbu: no |
| 19:00.57 | asmodai | :P |
| 19:01.03 | sbu | :( |
| 19:01.10 | asmodai | koaschten: I dislike that too. |
| 19:01.24 | kagaro | if you turn on parentl controls that goes away |
| 19:01.38 | kagaro | caus ewhen you enable the controls it removes allt he realid friends you had |
| 19:01.38 | asmodai | Which is stupid in and of itself. |
| 19:01.50 | orionshock | anyone got a good bank sort addon? |
| 19:02.20 | asmodai | orionshock: For categories or really sorting it according to some scheme? |
| 19:02.49 | orionshock | either, i got mats that i want to arrange by cat then by xpack |
| 19:03.12 | asmodai | mmm, well, Combuctor can separate based on rarity, trade goods, quest, that sort of thing. |
| 19:03.27 | asmodai | Not quite sorting, but at least easier finding also thanks to the search field |
| 19:04.04 | koaschten | @describe mrplow |
| 19:04.05 | Repo | koaschten: No project found that matches 'mrplow' |
| 19:04.46 | asmodai | oh ffs, let it rain already instead of this rising humidity and thunder 'n lightning |
| 19:04.47 | koaschten | @describe mr-plow |
| 19:04.48 | Repo | koaschten: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/. MrPlow. Regain that wasted space! |
| 19:04.54 | koaschten | there you go orionshock |
| 19:05.22 | orionshock | yea, i was looking at it, time to go try it out |
| 19:05.33 | koaschten | omg 1:1 already!? |
| 19:05.46 | sbu | yep |
| 19:08.46 | Zyn | Paul the Octopus predicts Uruguay wins ... at first it didnt look like it, but now ... |
| 19:10.00 | sbu | err no he didnt |
| 19:10.13 | sbu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus |
| 19:10.24 | Zyn | in his mind he did |
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| 19:10.25 | sbu | Prediction -> Germany |
| 19:10.26 | Zyn | to troll |
| 19:15.47 | asmodai | orionshock: let me know how the sorting goes |
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| 19:19.35 | orionshock | it works nicely |
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| 19:20.56 | asmodai | orionshock: how does it sort? |
| 19:22.15 | asmodai | orionshock: just ilvl or ? |
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| 19:27.57 | Shefki | Any EU person around? |
| 19:28.03 | asmodai | Shefki: oi |
| 19:28.19 | Shefki | Try this for me: /run BNSendWhisper(BNGetInfo(),"Test") |
| 19:28.28 | Shefki | Tell me what name is on the outgoing/incoming whispers. |
| 19:28.35 | Shefki | Disable BlizzBugsSuck if you have it on. |
| 19:28.51 | asmodai | moment, need to log in |
| 19:29.07 | Shefki | Looks like they've changed the code server side to show it as coming from your character name not your real name. |
| 19:32.50 | asmodai | Shefki: well |
| 19:32.50 | asmodai | [21:32:43][BN:To] [Heborica ]: Test |
| 19:32.51 | asmodai | [21:32:43][BN:From] [Heborica ]: Test |
| 19:33.01 | Shefki | k, good, fix is live for EU as well. |
| 19:34.03 | asmodai | So that means you can take it out? |
| 19:34.08 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 19:34.22 | asmodai | or wait a bit for TW and such realms as well? |
| 19:34.54 | Shefki | I guess I can leave it in for a few more days. |
| 19:35.02 | Shefki | But I doubt there are any realms that aren't patched by now. |
| 19:35.06 | asmodai | nods |
| 19:35.09 | asmodai | then just rip it out |
| 19:35.19 | Shefki | Given that it's Saturday I bet they fixed it on Thursday or yesterday. |
| 19:35.36 | Shefki | It's not like I was doing it every day whispering myself. |
| 19:36.18 | asmodai | I did hear something about login servers being down last night for EU |
| 19:36.32 | Shefki | That was probably why. |
| 19:37.25 | orionshock | asmodai, i think it's by type then name |
| 19:37.30 | Stanzilla | login servers where "down" till 2pm today |
| 19:37.33 | orionshock | some things don't have an itemlevel |
| 19:37.36 | asmodai | wow, cloudbreak :| |
| 19:37.45 | Shefki | Stanzilla: 2pm EU time? |
| 19:37.54 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:38.37 | Stanzilla | and "down", I could not log in but some people could |
| 19:38.39 | Morwrath | What was the original bug doing? Sending your real name? |
| 19:38.42 | asmodai | orionshock: I need to cook up some extension for mrplow then |
| 19:40.51 | asmodai | <-- sucker for sorting his tradegoods to ilvl |
| 19:41.58 | arkanes | sorting herbs and stuff by ilevel is really handy when you're leveling tradeskills |
| 19:42.25 | arkanes | well, inscription |
| 19:43.25 | asmodai | arkanes: yea, it's what I do with most of my tradeskills, including mining, jc, and so on |
| 19:43.36 | asmodai | and for gems of the same level I use the colour range of spectra ;) |
| 19:44.28 | asmodai | wow 2:1 for Uruguay :| |
| 19:44.41 | sbu | 2:2 |
| 19:44.42 | asmodai | oh, 2:2 |
| 19:45.16 | arkanes | hmm did the latest chatter update change the way it stores the frame location? |
| 19:45.29 | Shefki | Morwrath: Yes. |
| 19:45.32 | arkanes | actually I guess its just the size |
| 19:45.51 | arkanes | Shefki: apparently BNGetFriendInfoById(BNGetId()) would do it too |
| 19:45.59 | asmodai | Will chatter get the copy text icon back btw? |
| 19:46.18 | Stanzilla | it's there |
| 19:46.20 | Shefki | arkanes: BNGetFriendInfoByID has always returned me nothing for your own presence. |
| 19:46.22 | Stanzilla | just off by default I think |
| 19:46.42 | arkanes | Shefki: yeah I had that result too, but The Internet said your name was in the results |
| 19:46.46 | Stanzilla | asmodai: [X] show copy icon < - in the module options |
| 19:46.55 | asmodai | ah cool |
| 19:47.01 | Shefki | arkanes: It's possible that it did at ane point and they hotfixed that before I tried it. |
| 19:47.10 | Shefki | And it's BNGetInfo() |
| 19:47.14 | Shefki | There is no BNGetID() |
| 19:47.17 | arkanes | yeah |
| 19:47.38 | Shefki | But I certainly tried that one, someone may have read my comments where I said that it didn't work and misunderstood. |
| 19:47.42 | arkanes | I was typing from memory, instead of looking at my log |
| 19:48.04 | Shefki | I took fhe fact that it didn't work to imply that Blizzard didn't intend to expose your own real name to addons. |
| 19:49.03 | arkanes | it seems kind of wierd that they wouldn't mind exposing your friends names, but would hide yours |
| 19:50.00 | Shefki | arkanes: Not really. |
| 19:50.18 | Shefki | If you chose not to participate in Real ID becuase you're concerned by that then your own real name shouldn't be exposed. |
| 19:50.55 | arkanes | yeah |
| 19:51.18 | arkanes | but it never worked at all if you had realid disabled in parental controls |
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| 19:58.16 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 07v0.6dev * r118 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:58.30 | Repo | New Tradeskill Window UI is starting to even out a bit. Checking in the current work. |
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| 20:04.50 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 040.6b1 * r119 : Tagging as 0.6 beta 1 |
| 20:05.34 | Shefki | arkanes: Right, that's why the first suggestion I made to people was to disable RealID. |
| 20:05.45 | Shefki | arkanes: Via Parental Controls. |
| 20:06.00 | asmodai | Shefki: but of course, that's a work around |
| 20:06.07 | asmodai | For a wrong implementation :S |
| 20:09.40 | asmodai | oh wow |
| 20:09.42 | asmodai | 2:3 |
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| 20:21.20 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.7 BlizzBugsSuck.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 20:21.23 | Repo | 3093652: Remove workaround for BNSendWhisper leaking Real Names. |
| 20:21.28 | Repo | 2d3770e: Fix a leaked global variable that was intended to be local. |
| 20:21.33 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 043.3.5.7 * 50f37bb /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.7 |
| 20:21.47 | nevcairiel | why remove the workaround? |
| 20:21.54 | Shefki | nevcairiel: They fixed the problem. |
| 20:21.58 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:21.59 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 20:22.05 | asmodai | heh |
| 20:22.07 | asmodai | DE 3rd place |
| 20:22.07 | Shefki | Shows character name now. |
| 20:22.30 | Chaoslux | BNSendWhisper leak real Names? |
| 20:22.38 | Shefki | You could whsiper yourself. |
| 20:22.44 | Shefki | Even if you had no BN friends. |
| 20:22.48 | Shefki | Thus allowing addons to get your real name. |
| 20:23.40 | Chaoslux | Oh yeah, i heard of that |
| 20:23.55 | nevcairiel | what about the presence event thing? |
| 20:24.05 | Shefki | Still there. |
| 20:24.24 | Shefki | But I can't come up with a good way of blocking it that doesn't make a mess of other things or that can't be gotten around. |
| 20:24.36 | nevcairiel | i know it only works when the b.net goes away, but apparently thats happening alot |
| 20:24.51 | sbu | @describe blizzbugssuck |
| 20:24.54 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blizzbugssuck/. BlizzBugsSuck. Fixes UI bugs |
| 20:25.06 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I suspect given that they changed the BNSendWhisper that we'll have a small patch on Tuesday. |
| 20:25.22 | Shefki | Since I doubt they can fix it without a client patch. |
| 20:25.47 | Shefki | There's really no need for BN_NEW_PRESENCE at all anyway. |
| 20:26.06 | Shefki | So they could remove it entirely oor just filter the users own presence. |
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| 20:41.05 | Mirrormn | does anyone know if map position data is still broken for Lich King phase 2? |
| 20:41.52 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Yes it is. |
| 20:42.24 | Mirrormn | it seems like Blizzard is trying to screw me every which way =/ |
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| 20:43.18 | nevcairiel | Doubt its high on their list |
| 20:44.56 | Mirrormn | I dunno, many of the peculiarities involved with addons' interaction with the Lich King encounter seem very intentional |
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| 20:46.37 | Shefki | Mirrormn: I think the map stuff in LK was just a implementation consequence that they didn't worry about fixing. |
| 20:47.52 | Mirrormn | well I can't claim that's not a possibility |
| 20:48.22 | Mirrormn | but my conspiratorial suspicions are more fun |
| 20:49.51 | arkanes | if blizzard didn't want certain stuff to be availble to addons, they wouldn't pussyfoot around with it |
| 20:50.30 | Mirrormn | it's not exactly "pussyfooting" to just not make the data available |
| 20:51.07 | Shefki | Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to sloth. :P |
| 20:51.18 | arkanes | sure but the fact that its tied to rooms with no particular pattern suggests that its an implementation detail |
| 20:51.35 | Shefki | arkanes: Actually everything but the LK has been fixed. |
| 20:51.38 | arkanes | position data being available at all is a pretty recent feature |
| 20:51.56 | Shefki | And LK is fine until P2. |
| 20:52.07 | Mirrormn | unrelatedly, do you think there's a performance difference between using RegisterEvent for the specific event you want to look at and using RegisterAllEvents and then checking for the event you want manually? |
| 20:52.08 | Shefki | So it almost certainly has everything to do with the side of the room falling off. |
| 20:52.09 | arkanes | and its probably related to the phase effect of the edges |
| 20:52.11 | arkanes | right |
| 20:52.20 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Don't RegisterAllEvents |
| 20:52.29 | Shefki | That's there for debugging, not normal use. |
| 20:52.33 | arkanes | Mirrormn: theres no way that the second would be any faster |
| 20:52.57 | arkanes | in the very worst case, they'd have identical performance |
| 20:53.02 | Mirrormn | I'm not saying the second would be faster, I'm just wondering if it's *actually* slower or if people are just scared of it |
| 20:53.16 | arkanes | well I haven't measured |
| 20:53.34 | arkanes | but I've written event dispatch systems before and if the first isn't faster, then whoever wrote the event dispatch is a buffoon |
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| 20:53.49 | Shefki | Mirrormn: It would definately be slower. |
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| 20:53.58 | Shefki | Mirrormn: The event dispatcher is in C. |
| 20:54.06 | Shefki | C->Lua callouts are somewhat slow. |
| 20:54.06 | nevcairiel | Of course it would be slower |
| 20:54.07 | Mirrormn | mm |
| 20:54.13 | nevcairiel | it'll call your handler way more often |
| 20:54.18 | Shefki | RegisterAllEvents would trigger a C->Lua callout for every single event |
| 20:54.59 | arkanes | and thats assuming a naive C-level dispatcher |
| 20:55.10 | Mirrormn | that does make sense |
| 20:55.57 | Shefki | Blizzard wouldn't have implemented a event register system if it didn't have a reason to. |
| 20:56.05 | Shefki | Though admittingly RegisterAllEvents was added later. |
| 20:56.21 | arkanes | originally I think you just had OnEvent, didn't you? |
| 20:56.31 | Xinhuan | if they said its only meant for debugging, it probably is ONLY meant for that and is significantly slower |
| 20:56.31 | arkanes | and every frame always got everything |
| 20:56.48 | Mirrormn | well, it's not *that* much slower |
| 20:56.51 | arkanes | lots of game scripting engines actually work that way |
| 20:57.31 | Mirrormn | I've been running an addon that uses RegisterAllEvents (for good reason) for a while and it doesn't affect my performance at all |
| 20:57.33 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Have you tried RegisterAllEvents in combat? |
| 20:57.38 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 20:57.49 | Shefki | Why would you need RegisterAllEvents? |
| 20:58.03 | Xinhuan | performance-wise it probably isn't noticable to the human eye |
| 20:58.09 | Xinhuan | but it still costs |
| 20:58.13 | Mirrormn | because it's an addon that measures how many events you're receiving per second |
| 20:58.24 | Shefki | Why do you care about that? |
| 20:58.46 | Xinhuan | its probably an interesting statistic to some people |
| 20:58.52 | Mirrormn | it seemed like an interesting thing to know |
| 20:58.53 | Xinhuan | a niche statistic |
| 20:59.16 | Xinhuan | elsia once did a distribution breakdown of combat log event types |
| 20:59.21 | Xinhuan | from recount |
| 20:59.31 | Xinhuan | and noted Rampage cause 60% of all combat log events |
| 20:59.35 | Mirrormn | hahaha |
| 20:59.57 | arkanes | yeah thats why they made those effects be passive auras |
| 21:00.00 | Mirrormn | well that's why they just recently changed a lot of proc-based aura effects to just be passives, right? |
| 21:00.06 | Xinhuan | because refreshing it all on 25 ppl + pets |
| 21:00.13 | Xinhuan | caused 25x2 sets of events |
| 21:00.23 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 21:00.44 | Mirrormn | I get up to about 300 events/second in 25player combat |
| 21:00.47 | Xinhuan | its the kind of statistic that nobody notices until you actually try it |
| 21:00.50 | Mirrormn | 400ish during bloodlust |
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| 21:01.55 | Mirrormn | I did have it just measuring COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED at first but then I was wondering whether there was a large percentage of other events that occur during combat |
| 21:02.17 | Xinhuan | yes heaps |
| 21:02.20 | Shefki | UNIT_AURA |
| 21:02.22 | Xinhuan | unit health |
| 21:02.23 | Xinhuan | unit aura |
| 21:02.23 | Shefki | UNIT_TARGET |
| 21:02.41 | Shefki | the various power events. |
| 21:02.41 | Xinhuan | and spell_cast_start/success |
| 21:03.12 | arkanes | it'd be nice if there was a /combatlog style entry for all those |
| 21:03.35 | Shefki | arkanes: That's what Transcriptor's for. :P |
| 21:03.37 | Xinhuan | you already have it, sorta, when you do /eventtrace |
| 21:03.47 | Xinhuan | just that it isn't logged to a file |
| 21:03.55 | arkanes | the logging to a file part is what I care about though |
| 21:03.56 | Shefki | I hate /eventrace, they left out the most important feature. |
| 21:04.06 | Xinhuan | file logging? |
| 21:04.12 | Shefki | Nope, filtering. |
| 21:04.31 | Shefki | Sometimes I only want to see a couple events. |
| 21:04.34 | Xinhuan | it would be way easier if it could be logged and you could filter it yourself later |
| 21:04.37 | arkanes | I was pretty sure it had filtering |
| 21:04.43 | Shefki | Xinhuan: That would have been fine as well. |
| 21:04.46 | arkanes | maybe I had some non-blizzard event trace |
| 21:04.49 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.54 | arkanes | ah that was what I was using |
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| 21:08.08 | Shefki | Xinhuan: But yeah an in game box with every event isn't very useful when you're trying to track something down and there are a lot of events going on at the same time. |
| 21:08.15 | Mirrormn | now I can't remember what I was doing |
| 21:10.23 | Mirrormn | oh yeah, positioning info for phase 2 LK |
| 21:10.28 | Mirrormn | still doesn't work =/ |
| 21:10.32 | Mirrormn | disappointing |
| 21:11.12 | Shefki | Really don't need it anyway. |
| 21:11.33 | Mirrormn | how's that? |
| 21:11.40 | Shefki | Because of the way Defile works you can't tell people if they're safe anyway. |
| 21:12.04 | Mirrormn | why not? |
| 21:12.12 | Shefki | It increases in size. |
| 21:12.52 | Mirrormn | well, you could still give them a rough indication of safeness |
| 21:13.16 | Mirrormn | that wasn't exactly what I was planning anyway |
| 21:13.28 | Shefki | What were you planning? |
| 21:14.28 | Mirrormn | I wanted to record position data for every player during every defile at a high enough time resolution that the data could be played back after the fact to see everyone's positions, reaction time, etc. |
| 21:15.36 | Mirrormn | something I already try to do with FRAPS but a lot of time the camera angles are not ideal |
| 21:15.55 | Shefki | You can't record it at a high enough resolution to be useful. |
| 21:16.06 | Mirrormn | sure you can |
| 21:16.28 | Shefki | What matters is where they are on the server. |
| 21:16.35 | Shefki | If they're moving your info will be off. |
| 21:16.56 | Shefki | This is especially aparent with people moving when they get Shadow Trap. |
| 21:17.04 | Shefki | The range arrows on DXE are always off. |
| 21:17.16 | Shefki | Because the server thought they were someplace different than you did when they got the trap. |
| 21:17.41 | Shefki | Fortunately, most people are fairly static when they get trap so it works fairly well anyway. |
| 21:17.42 | Navv | shadow trap has a flight time, which probably affects things |
| 21:17.46 | Mirrormn | well, that may be to in an absolute sense, but relative comparisons could still be useful |
| 21:18.10 | Shefki | Navv: The position is locked in when it's cast. |
| 21:18.25 | Navv | yeah |
| 21:19.23 | Mirrormn | I mean, if defile were on you, you would get an illusion that you were much faster responding to it than other people, because your personal position data would be much more up to date |
| 21:19.55 | Mirrormn | but if it's on some other people, you can compare their responses to it relatively because they would all have the same lag in response time |
| 21:20.22 | Shefki | But that's not really true. |
| 21:20.46 | Shefki | The lag between their movement and when you see them is their latency + server processing time + your latency. |
| 21:21.14 | Shefki | So it's not really an accurate measure of response time. |
| 21:21.16 | Mirrormn | it would only be significantly false if either you or they were experiencing unusual latency |
| 21:21.48 | Shefki | Someone in Australia is always going to show worse than someone near the server with your method. |
| 21:22.31 | Mirrormn | wouldn't someone in australia actually "be" worse, though? since the server wouldn't be able to process their position until it was sent over their laggy connection |
| 21:22.35 | Shefki | *shrug* I think you're going to great efforts to try and track down performance stuff that doesn't matter that much anyway. |
| 21:23.06 | Shefki | Mirrormn: Sure but that's not an acurate measure of player ability, that's a meausre of network issues, which you would already know. |
| 21:23.35 | Mirrormn | well I'm not trying to make absolute judgements of players' skill |
| 21:23.53 | Mirrormn | I'm just trying to get people away from defiles through whatever means I have available to me |
| 21:24.51 | Mirrormn | if there was someone with that bad latency, you might need to specialize his positioning in regards to defiles so that he could have more leeway |
| 21:25.01 | Mirrormn | the collected positioning data would reflect that need |
| 21:25.06 | Mirrormn | or expose it |
| 21:25.29 | Mirrormn | the underlying cause of it wouldn't really matter |
| 21:25.55 | Mirrormn | anyway, as for it not mattering that much |
| 21:26.25 | Mirrormn | my guild has been wiping to defiles for like 4 weeks straight now |
| 21:27.09 | Mirrormn | obviously I can't write an addon that instantly alleviates that problem, but I think every little bit helps |
| 21:27.46 | Mirrormn | except, the entire issue is completely irrelevent, if positioning data is not available in p2 =/ |
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| 21:28.45 | Shefki | Mirrormn: My advice tell your guild "Stop sucking" |
| 21:28.54 | Mirrormn | haha |
| 21:29.05 | Mirrormn | well, to be fair |
| 21:29.15 | Mirrormn | I'm one of the worst when it comes to defile |
| 21:29.22 | Mirrormn | so it's been more of my guild telling me to "stop sucking" |
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| 21:32.22 | Mirrormn | actually, I only got defile once in 100+ attempts, and I screwed it up that one time, but that kind of thing sticks |
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| 21:35.36 | Mirrormn | @describe wow-textmate |
| 21:35.37 | Repo | Mirrormn: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wow-textmate/. World of Warcraft Textmate Bundle. This is not an addon. It is a Textmate bundle to add extra support for WoW. What is Textmate? Textmate is a powerful but simp... |
| 21:36.25 | Mirrormn | lua editor? I still haven't found an editor that I really like... |
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| 21:38.08 | Shefki | Kaelten: BTW ignore what we talked about yesterday. |
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| 23:28.18 | Morwrath | So, what does it mean when the error frame says " attempt to concatenate local 'mapName' (a nil value)" |
| 23:29.32 | ulic | it's trying connect two strings, but the one named mapName isn't set to anything |
| 23:30.47 | Morwrath | hmm? Weird. Cause when doing a print(mapName) it prints out "Random Battleground" |
| 23:32.14 | Groktar | ordered some ssds |
| 23:32.20 | Groktar | 3 vertex 2 120gb |
| 23:32.33 | Groktar | two for my desktop, one for my laptop |
| 23:32.37 | Morwrath | holy hell. =x |
| 23:32.43 | ulic | are you calling the print at same line that is throwing the error, maybe it's not set when the error throws, but is later |
| 23:32.46 | Morwrath | Expensive no doubt? |
| 23:32.50 | Groktar | just a bit |
| 23:33.07 | Groktar | think i'll notice the difference between that and the 5400rpm 60gb hard drive in my laptop? |
| 23:33.20 | Morwrath | Eh, I was just toying with the Example LUA on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
| 23:33.29 | Morwrath | Yeah. |
| 23:33.37 | Morwrath | SSD > HDD |
| 23:35.52 | Groktar | right now my system disk is a stripe of two 450gb wd drives |
| 23:36.13 | Groktar | and ever time my computer boots the raid controller says ERROR OCCURED (0) next to them |
| 23:36.30 | Groktar | they work anyway tho |
| 23:36.32 | Groktar | shrugs |
| 23:39.06 | Morwrath | slaps Groktar with a large trout. |
| 23:45.10 | Groktar | creeps up behind Morwrath raid |
| 23:45.12 | Groktar | error |
| 23:53.59 | SunTsu | somebody just left a pug because he didn't win the battered hilt. wtf. |
| 23:54.25 | Cyprias | He had to go cry. |
| 23:56.17 | SunTsu | yeah, probably |
