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| 00:21.54 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren * r26 GridStatusPriestAoe.lua: |
| 00:21.55 | Repo | - Actually add the workaround, not just an infinite loop. oops. |
| 00:22.43 | Repo | 10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 07master * v0.1-1-gbcfb354 mCore.lua: [+1 commit] Movable Unit Frames |
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| 01:16.53 | Shefki | Any EU person about that can test something for me. |
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| 01:27.26 | Hell-Razor | hey guys just wondering if theres a addon like what xperl uses for tanks, the window that pops up showing main tanks and off tanks |
| 01:27.50 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r268 FriendList/FriendList.lua: |
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| 01:31.48 | harl | don't you mean tanks and assists? |
| 01:33.41 | Hell-Razor | no it was main tanks and off tanks |
| 01:33.44 | Hell-Razor | harl |
| 01:35.21 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r269 Fu/Fu.lua: Fix for Fu module error when the cached class is messed up. |
| 01:35.29 | harl | haven't used xperl in quite some time now |
| 01:37.20 | harl | but i imagine every decent unitframe addon should have some additional sub-frames for the "tanks" sub-group of a raid. and another one for "assists". both definable by the game's native flags. |
| 01:39.24 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r270 Fu/Fu.lua: |
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| 01:39.58 | harl | so afaik, the only way to distinguish between "main tanks" and "off tanks" would be some proprietary thing limited to a certain addon (or library). |
| 01:40.02 | Hell-Razor | yeah i dont know harl.. i use aguf now because i think it looks smoother and is a lot easier to just read i think... it doesnt have one |
| 01:40.19 | Shefki | aguf is dead. |
| 01:40.29 | Shadowed | agUF has been dead for like 2 years |
| 01:40.35 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 01:40.38 | Hell-Razor | i use it lol |
| 01:40.48 | Shefki | Nobody is really maintaining it. |
| 01:40.54 | Hell-Razor | maybe ill move to pitbull |
| 01:41.04 | harl | try Shadowed UF or Pitbull |
| 01:41.09 | harl | yea |
| 01:41.15 | Shefki | It just hasn't broken to the point that it's entirely unusable. |
| 01:41.16 | Hell-Razor | ive seen some screenshots of things i really like |
| 01:41.26 | Shefki | And the one error is trivially fixable by just commenting ou ta line. |
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| 01:44.02 | Hell-Razor | http://s3.postimage.org/t1SU0-873a5e2603f1e1ca575f71e92151cf94.jpg |
| 01:44.04 | Hell-Razor | like that |
| 01:44.10 | Hell-Razor | what are those uf hes using |
| 01:44.42 | Hell-Razor | i dont like the portrait in the middle of it but i can fix that |
| 01:44.49 | Shefki | My guess would be an oUF thing. |
| 01:45.13 | Shefki | Maybe STUF |
| 01:45.17 | Hell-Razor | stuf? |
| 01:45.46 | Wobin | I advise suF |
| 01:45.47 | Hell-Razor | ive never really been a good coder so all the "enter your own coords here" addons never really worked for me or i just gvae up |
| 01:45.48 | Hell-Razor | gave |
| 01:45.52 | Hell-Razor | what is suf |
| 01:45.59 | Wobin | shadowed unitframes |
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| 01:46.27 | Hell-Razor | alright |
| 01:46.29 | Hell-Razor | ill give that a shot |
| 01:46.50 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki 04v3.3.5.2 * r271 : Tag v3.3.5.2 |
| 01:47.00 | Hell-Razor | and would you know of a frame so to speak that would show tanks (mt, ot1,ot2.. etc) kind of like what xperl has Wobin? |
| 01:47.03 | Shefki | Pretty sure you can't do what you just showed in that screenshot in suf though. |
| 01:47.18 | Shefki | Hell-Razor: All the major unit frames can do that. |
| 01:48.05 | Hell-Razor | kk |
| 01:49.28 | Hell-Razor | thanks |
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| 01:58.44 | Hell-Razor | does suf have raid frames? and how about the mt ot frames |
| 02:00.24 | Wobin | yes |
| 02:05.53 | Hell-Razor | thanks again |
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| 02:22.56 | vithos | anyone have a fix for the dungeonfinder tooltip going offscreen with a left side minimap? |
| 02:26.04 | vithos | d'oh found it "LFGMiniMapFix" |
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| 03:52.51 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03Shefki 07master * v490-50-g22914d6 Encounters/Northrend/Encounters.lua: [+1 commit] Halion (13): Soul Consumption bars were saying Fiery Consumption. |
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| 04:01.07 | Repo | 12568a6: Halion (13): Some tweaks to debuff cooldown |
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| 04:49.16 | steevdave | wish they would make npcs level 85 elites (90 elite in cata) |
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| 05:10.48 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03Shefki 07master * v490-55-g4e1d867 Encounters/Northrend/Encounters.lua: [+1 commit] Halion (15): Actually debuffcd timer resets at the start of P2. |
| 05:13.43 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-3-g7047c7f / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 05:13.46 | Repo | 7047c7f: Under the Display Options panel - moved the "Font Size" checkbox under the Tooltip section. |
| 05:13.47 | Repo | 8d58e99: Changed the Map Options panel - moved things around and changed tooltip texts. |
| 05:13.48 | Repo | 4008387: Turned off the manual ChangeLog. |
| 05:14.29 | steevdave | i also hate the barens |
| 05:15.11 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r21 / (5 files in 2 directories): Added new widget "TreeView" in file TreeView.lua |
| 05:15.13 | Repo | Some other minor changes |
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| 05:30.21 | asmodai | woo |
| 05:30.24 | asmodai | Torhal's busy |
| 05:37.00 | asmodai | steevdave: heh |
| 05:37.17 | asmodai | steevdave: Barrens is HUGE :( |
| 05:37.25 | steevdave | yeah |
| 05:37.55 | steevdave | woohoo |
| 05:38.00 | steevdave | 10 cured gazelles |
| 05:38.04 | asmodai | Had to go for my Warlock quest from Stormwind to bloody Barrens -- so took the scenic Nightelf route to get the flight points |
| 05:38.06 | steevdave | this f'n cat form better be worth it |
| 05:38.14 | steevdave | (hint: it isn't) |
| 05:38.29 | asmodai | steevdave: It's cool. But if there's like 2 ranged tossing lightning bolt on your ass ... |
| 05:38.31 | steevdave | shit by the time i'm done with the quest i'll be almost 16 |
| 05:38.53 | steevdave | and it will be time to travel again and hit 18 before i'm done with travel form's quests |
| 05:39.36 | asmodai | Old style mobs sure have a bunch of mean aggro ranges. Trigger one and unbeknownst to you you have just triggered two ranged a bit further. You started withering down mob #1 and suddenly your hp drops like crazy due to lightning bolts being tossed on your ass. |
| 05:39.41 | steevdave | and some asshat shadow priest keeps killing the npcs i have to turn my quests in to so its taking me 10 minutes to do |
| 05:39.47 | asmodai | :( |
| 05:39.56 | asmodai | PvP server? |
| 05:40.04 | steevdave | yeh |
| 05:40.12 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r23 Widgets/TreeView.lua: Added "FindNode" function to TreeView |
| 05:40.15 | steevdave | no wait |
| 05:40.22 | steevdave | proudmoore is just gay afaik |
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| 05:41.00 | asmodai | Eh? |
| 05:41.01 | steevdave | *sigh* |
| 05:41.17 | steevdave | ran all the way back down to crossroads without reading chat, all i had to do was teleport |
| 05:41.32 | pompy | nub |
| 05:41.55 | steevdave | oh - supposedly there is a large glbsomething community on here, lesbian friend convinced my roommate and his girlfriend to start toons on here, and they convinced me to |
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| 05:42.44 | steevdave | actually, i guess she's bi not lesbian, but whatever |
| 05:43.54 | asmodai | heh |
| 05:44.03 | asmodai | Well, if she's bi the chances improve... |
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| 05:45.13 | steevdave | wait what |
| 05:45.23 | steevdave | how come i didn't get cat form |
| 05:45.33 | steevdave | what level do i get cat? |
| 05:45.44 | steevdave | i thought it was 14 |
| 05:46.06 | asmodai | something like that |
| 05:46.33 | asmodai | I've had it for a few levels when I was lvl 20 |
| 05:46.38 | asmodai | so at least since 16 |
| 05:46.47 | steevdave | 16 is travel form |
| 05:46.58 | asmodai | oh |
| 05:46.59 | asmodai | heuh |
| 05:47.01 | asmodai | level 20? |
| 05:47.05 | steevdave | i'm talking mangle bitch |
| 05:47.11 | asmodai | seems level 20 |
| 05:47.15 | steevdave | k |
| 05:47.15 | asmodai | Requires level 20 |
| 05:47.15 | asmodai | Class: Druid |
| 05:47.16 | asmodai | Training cost: 20 |
| 05:47.22 | steevdave | apparently i did this to get cure posion |
| 05:47.29 | asmodai | ahhh yes, that quest |
| 05:48.24 | asmodai | nooooooooooooo |
| 05:48.45 | asmodai | next to Bond 23 MGM might also have cancelled production on The Hobbit due to financial issues |
| 05:48.50 | steevdave | well that was annoying |
| 05:49.07 | steevdave | yeah, people aren't paying up when they sue them |
| 05:52.58 | steevdave | lawl |
| 05:53.03 | steevdave | i just soloed a 19 druid |
| 05:53.06 | steevdave | at 14 |
| 05:53.41 | asmodai | :| |
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| 05:54.12 | asmodai | I wonder how many people have a headache today due to my country's placement for the finals last night |
| 05:54.16 | steevdave | and they have a level 20 in here |
| 05:55.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: lol, the squid predicts NL - ES |
| 05:58.57 | steevdave | ah well, 1am bedtime |
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| 06:04.29 | Repo | Fixed a bug which added Battleground participants from different servers to assignments twice. |
| 06:04.30 | Repo | Fixed a bug involving the Infest cooldown announcement button in the config. |
| 06:04.31 | Repo | Changed some messages. |
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| 07:11.20 | vhaarr | can someone please read http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsink-2-0/tickets/6 and tell me that Niightblade is a freak? |
| 07:11.45 | vhaarr | who obviously can't discuss an issue if emoticons are not spread around like suger on a twinkie |
| 07:12.18 | Primer | sugar |
| 07:12.48 | vhaarr | 13 comments, seriously, I had a longer discussion this morning with myself about whether or not I should get out of bed |
| 07:13.59 | Primer | What was the decision? |
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| 07:15.14 | vhaarr | eventually I opted for getting up |
| 07:15.26 | Primer | Did you have morning wood? |
| 07:15.38 | vhaarr | I don't see how that's relevant to this ticket! |
| 07:15.44 | vhaarr | but no, I only slept 5 hours |
| 07:15.57 | Primer | I really should sleep more |
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| 07:22.52 | asmodai | vhaarr: bonus points for your lovely sarcastic comments here on IRC ^^ |
| 07:23.13 | asmodai | reads comments |
| 07:25.48 | asmodai | vhaarr: Most of what he wants seem to be more situation-specific and thus within the purview of an addon, rather than a supporting library |
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| 07:27.05 | Mikk | vhaarr: you clearly needed to use more smileys |
| 07:27.29 | vhaarr | bah, I knew it |
| 07:28.08 | vhaarr | my fault then, I guess, oh well I'll drown my sorrows in this here cup of coffee and set fire to myself with this cigarette |
| 07:28.14 | Mikk | And "Group" seems like a good idea to me in general but I don't know LibSink specifics |
| 07:28.25 | vhaarr | I actually did add it |
| 07:28.39 | vhaarr | comment #2 was added after I committed |
| 07:28.43 | Mikk | lmao |
| 07:28.57 | vhaarr | I made it BG/Raid/Party/Say |
| 07:29.07 | vhaarr | he wants it to be Raid/Party/ChatFrame |
| 07:29.27 | vhaarr | while I agree with the /ChatFrame instead of Say, I am not convinced about BG being excluded |
| 07:30.08 | Mikk | it'll be entirely dependent on the addon |
| 07:30.45 | Mikk | i dunno.. routing output to chat channels seems a bit out of scope for libsink in general the way i see it |
| 07:30.52 | vhaarr | hence http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsink-2-0/tickets/6-add-send-output-to-group/#c9 |
| 07:30.58 | Mikk | so i'll just excuse myself from this conversation |
| 07:31.29 | Mikk | and yeah mysinkobject:SetGroupOutput({"RAID", "PARTY", "CHAT"}) <- that's just wrong |
| 07:32.39 | Mikk | goes and finds breakfast coffee & cigarette |
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| 07:43.06 | asmodai | vhaarr: But yeah, use more smilies. :P |
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| 07:46.24 | harl | what the.. |
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| 07:51.10 | asmodai | mmm |
| 07:51.24 | asmodai | Just to be clear, Cartographer is dead, buried, deceased, etc, right? |
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| 07:52.27 | Repo | c20d52e: Resetting the GUI's position no longer resets the tooltip scale or font size. |
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| 07:53.06 | Torhal | asmodai: You should have stuck a fork in Cart2 long ago. |
| 07:53.11 | Torhal | It's done. |
| 07:53.33 | asmodai | Torhal: well, there's this huge topic on a forum of Dutch speaking computer people |
| 07:53.37 | asmodai | and they still recommend cart |
| 07:53.46 | asmodai | so I am requesting they remove that and replace it with a link to Mapster |
| 07:54.02 | asmodai | just wanted to be 100% sure when I say it's out of development and won't be supported and updated anymore. |
| 07:54.07 | asmodai | At all. Period. |
| 07:54.08 | Torhal | Cartographer can be completely replaced with: Mapster, HandyNotes (and assorted modules), Cromulent, GatherMate... |
| 07:54.12 | Torhal | Period. |
| 07:54.15 | Torhal | Also, TomTom |
| 07:54.36 | Torhal | asmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cartographer/ |
| 07:54.59 | asmodai | I noticed the Big Red Letters. |
| 07:55.11 | Torhal | And you asked for clarification? |
| 07:55.16 | Torhal | Bah. |
| 07:55.27 | Torhal | Fisker asmodai |
| 07:55.37 | asmodai | Torhal: just wanted to be 100% sure. |
| 07:55.43 | asmodai | We've had resurrections before :( |
| 07:56.33 | Torhal | Cart's been dead over two years |
| 07:56.40 | Arrowmaster | asmodai: tell them that one developer of cartographer2 personally told you himself that he will not be updating it and he disabled the comments on curse just to stop all the whinny bitches |
| 07:56.57 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: hahaha |
| 07:56.59 | harl | i still miss some shortcut for toggling Mapster's click-through-ability though |
| 07:57.00 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: Gotcha. |
| 07:58.12 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: Will make sure to get this reference removed from said forum. |
| 07:59.05 | asmodai | Btw, should atlas detect when you're in an instance (older and newer)? I am in doubt whether this used to work or if I am just fantasizing. |
| 07:59.39 | Torhal | It used to work when I used it - at least, when I opened the map it showed up. |
| 08:00.10 | harl | there is an option for that but i don't remember it working for me anytime |
| 08:00.33 | Torhal | Last I used it was pre-Wrath, so... |
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| 08:02.31 | harl | maybe it did work sometimes, but it definitely often didn't |
| 08:03.13 | harl | in bc as well as in wotlk |
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| 08:05.35 | asmodai | ok |
| 08:05.41 | asmodai | so it might not just be silly ol' me |
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| 08:09.45 | asmodai | Oh jesus |
| 08:09.47 | asmodai | Rawr3 is a port of Rawr to Silverlight, which means: |
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| 08:10.03 | Torhal | No Linux. |
| 08:10.24 | asmodai | Being Rawr3, the harbinger of my doom, I tried it with Mono/Moonlight 3 to see what my future holds ...and it actually loads now! |
| 08:10.36 | Torhal | I seem to have a penchant for pushing when Repo is dead. |
| 08:10.38 | asmodai | No, but someone is heavily drinking the MS koolaid |
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| 08:10.47 | asmodai | Torhal: it's his daily restart |
| 08:10.57 | Torhal | asmodai: I know. I keep doing it though. |
| 08:11.06 | Torhal | Like I MUST push at this time of day. |
| 08:11.16 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-10-gd19a705 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Removed the "Reset Filters" button from the config options - there is already such a button in the expanded section of the main panel. |
| 08:11.19 | Torhal | Bwah |
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| 08:12.36 | asmodai | Torhal: compulsion, compulsion |
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| 08:13.02 | asmodai | Shadowed: ouch, you keep having to move EA. :( |
| 08:13.08 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 08:13.09 | Shadowed | No I don't |
| 08:13.34 | asmodai | Shadowed: eh, but your post from 5 days ago moving from Linode? |
| 08:13.42 | Shadowed | I don't have to keep moving EA :p |
| 08:13.56 | Shadowed | This is the first move |
| 08:14.03 | asmodai | oh |
| 08:14.20 | asmodai | Misunderstood part of the sentence then, my bad. |
| 08:14.22 | Shefki | Can some of you guys run this and tell me if you RealID whisper yourself: |
| 08:14.28 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.28 | Shadowed | Shefki yes it will |
| 08:14.37 | Shadowed | oh that, maybe not |
| 08:14.49 | Shadowed | And even that move is almost done, just doing a final checks against indexes and such: http://216.108.229.64/ |
| 08:14.50 | Shefki | If I'm right the first return of BNGetInfo is your own presenceID |
| 08:15.14 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: moving from linode? did the EA get too big for your linode? |
| 08:15.14 | Shefki | Which eliminates the need to loop. |
| 08:15.17 | Shadowed | yea |
| 08:15.30 | Shadowed | Linode doesn't offer enough disk space, and I can get a better deal going to dedicated at this point |
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| 08:16.01 | asmodai | Shadowed: any from this list by chance: http://newlt.internal.org/ ? |
| 08:16.37 | Shadowed | No, serverpoint.com |
| 08:17.12 | Shadowed | Although I looked at a couple of those servers |
| 08:18.07 | Shadowed | Xeon L5420 2.50GHz, 10k RPM raptor, 8GB of RAM are the base specs |
| 08:19.17 | Arrowmaster | wow that company has huge bandwidth limits for its VPS |
| 08:19.28 | Shadowed | Linode? |
| 08:19.34 | Arrowmaster | no serverpoint |
| 08:19.49 | Arrowmaster | i know linode is rather small on bandwidth limits |
| 08:20.58 | Shadowed | Hrm, the VPS looks fine to me? 1TB per month |
| 08:21.42 | Arrowmaster | right which is about double what linode would be for that price |
| 08:21.45 | Torhal | Shefki: I successfully whispered myself. Ugh. |
| 08:22.12 | Shadowed | oh sorry I misread what you said |
| 08:22.16 | Shadowed | I thought you said small not huge |
| 08:22.30 | Shefki | Torhal: I'm adding code to BlizzSucks that blocks that. |
| 08:22.46 | Shefki | And prints out a warning message in red to tell you that some addon tried to do it. |
| 08:22.48 | Shadowed | Linodes are great, I'm still using them for a personal server |
| 08:23.12 | Shadowed | But around the $80/month servers, you can usually get better |
| 08:23.42 | asmodai | Shefki: Just curious, just because it's silly or perhaps some security concern or so? |
| 08:23.44 | Shadowed | I keep finding completely randomass ways of breaking this |
| 08:23.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know the $19 a month one is great if you arent hosting something thats going to use up all the bandwidth |
| 08:24.01 | Shefki | asmodai: To stop the paranoia. |
| 08:24.03 | Arrowmaster | but cant exactly run a seedbox on them |
| 08:24.10 | Shadowed | You can't run a seedbox period, they'll ban it :p |
| 08:24.22 | Arrowmaster | they will? |
| 08:24.23 | Shefki | asmodai: People are worried that addons can get their real name and send it to other people. |
| 08:24.53 | Shadowed | Well, legitimate or TV shows/etc torrents Arrowmaster? |
| 08:25.34 | Repo | 10blizzsucks: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.2-1-g5d7c546 BlizzSucks.lua: [+1 commit] Add block to prevent the BNSendWhisper exploit from revealing your Real Name. |
| 08:26.10 | Arrowmaster | why would it matter part of the reason of paying for a vps/dedicated is so that other people dont have access to look at what your running |
| 08:26.35 | Primer | people are still getting hacked left and right |
| 08:26.53 | krka | would be fun with some functions like: first, last = UnitRealName(unit), address = UnitAddress(unit) |
| 08:27.45 | Arrowmaster | UnitYearlyIncome(), UnitCreditScore() |
| 08:27.56 | Shadowed | Hrm, maybe I'm wrong. They just list no illegal stuff, but it's kind of vague |
| 08:28.01 | Shadowed | so they might catch you, might not |
| 08:28.13 | Torhal | Shefki: Good deal. |
| 08:28.23 | asmodai | Shefki: Ah, makes sense I guess. |
| 08:28.23 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: if they get a dmca notice they would shut you down sure |
| 08:28.40 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: Now that would suck :) |
| 08:28.44 | Shadowed | I don't really care enough to find out, since I still host ZNC and stuff on this |
| 08:29.55 | harl | we should all have our very own dedicated 32 TB server somewhere. and a tshirt pointing out that you have one. |
| 08:31.01 | Arrowmaster | if i ever get a job someplace i could put one and either nobody would notice or care i sure as hell would |
| 08:31.13 | Repo | 10blizzsucks: 03Shefki 043.3.5.3 * 0bea05a /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.3 |
| 08:31.36 | harl | *sigh* |
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| 08:51.14 | asmodai | Shadowed: Amarand is your bad item/enchant test character? :) |
| 08:51.20 | Shadowed | mmhmm |
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| 08:51.33 | asmodai | that explains :) |
| 08:51.49 | Torhal | Foof? |
| 08:52.13 | asmodai | Torhal: F00F? |
| 08:52.22 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 08:52.24 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, what's exploit ? |
| 08:52.40 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.53 | Shefki | Sends a whisper to yourself, thus exposing your Real Name. |
| 08:53.17 | Shefki | AddOns can then trivially trap the chat event and use the chat filter system to hide the incoming/outgoing messages. |
| 08:53.24 | Shefki | Thus silently getting your Real Name. |
| 08:53.29 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 08:54.10 | Shefki | My workaround hooks the BNSendWhisper function and blocks you from sending a message to yourself. |
| 08:54.36 | Shefki | And prints a message in red text saying: WARNING: An AddOn attempted to discover your Real Name, BlizzSucks has blocked this. |
| 08:54.53 | Adirelle|work | hrm |
| 08:55.07 | Adirelle|work | couldn't you try to inspect the debugstack to get its name ? |
| 08:55.14 | Shefki | I could. |
| 08:55.18 | Shefki | I just haven't gotten to that yet. |
| 08:55.25 | Shefki | I wanted to get the workaround out first. |
| 08:55.32 | Shefki | Then start playing blame games next. |
| 08:55.48 | Torhal | asmodai: 0xdeadbeef |
| 08:57.03 | asmodai | Torhal: :) |
| 08:57.07 | asmodai | 0xdeadc0de |
| 08:57.07 | Adirelle|work | BTW, shefki, I have the feeling the opencategory doesn't work properly, e.g. it stopped working when switching from interfaceoptions_opencategory_fix to blizzsucks |
| 08:57.22 | Adirelle|work | I'll recheck this in a few moment |
| 08:57.29 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: Ohh? yssaril, is the one who committed it. |
| 08:57.32 | Shefki | I haven't messed with it. |
| 08:58.10 | Adirelle|work | maybe there are interaction with betterblizoptions |
| 08:59.58 | asmodai | Shadowed: btw |
| 09:00.04 | asmodai | Shadowed: Love the claim characters feature |
| 09:00.16 | asmodai | Shadowed: So much better than, wowprogress or what was that site. |
| 09:00.26 | Shadowed | Actually Antiarc gets credit for that idea |
| 09:00.31 | asmodai | Shadowed: They required you to equip or not equip certain items. |
| 09:00.44 | asmodai | Shadowed: all 20 characters are now claimed XD |
| 09:00.50 | Shadowed | I was going to originally go with emotes which was slightly better than the calendar one |
| 09:00.52 | Shadowed | but calendar one is nicer |
| 09:01.04 | Shefki | How's the claim character feature work? |
| 09:01.12 | asmodai | calendar url |
| 09:01.50 | Shadowed | Blizzard gives you an API key for your calendars that lets you pull calendar events from your characters |
| 09:01.55 | Shadowed | but it's not used anywhere else |
| 09:02.03 | Shadowed | So you can authenticate characters against it without risking the users data |
| 09:02.21 | Shefki | Yeah I know, I actually wrote a filter for those calendars to remove the stupid holidays. |
| 09:02.43 | Shefki | I want my calendar on my phone but don't want an entire week blocked out for some in game holidy. |
| 09:02.46 | Shefki | holiday* |
| 09:03.43 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-14-g06441b0 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 09:03.45 | Repo | 06441b0: Colorize waypoint descriptions by acquisition type and item quality. |
| 09:03.46 | Repo | 4a6ffce: Reputation acquisitions need waypoint types set too... |
| 09:03.47 | Repo | f6c6af5: Minor code cleanup. |
| 09:03.48 | Repo | 2ac474c: In GenericCreateButton(): Don't create a FontString if the font_object is nil. |
| 09:06.04 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Do you have any idea on this ticket? --> http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/tickets/990-french-runeforging/ |
| 09:08.58 | Adirelle|work | Torhal, hrm, I don't have any DK |
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| 09:09.56 | Torhal | Hehehe |
| 09:09.58 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: can you get adys to look it up for you in his DB |
| 09:10.28 | Torhal | Hrm...I also didn't think to look at WoWHead. I'll ask Adys if I find nothing there. |
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| 09:12.00 | Adirelle|work | Torhal, yeah, fr.wowhead.com will give you the answer |
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| 09:12.53 | GER|koaschten | damn i expected an uproar about realid+forum real names, but hell the blue tracker exploded which is actually a pleasant view, sad fact though is, it won't change a thing :/ |
| 09:14.05 | Adirelle|work | on a side note, "runeforger" is a barbarism anyway, "creating" new words by sticking words together isn't allowed in proper french |
| 09:14.35 | Torhal | I don't see "Runeforger" on WoWHead |
| 09:14.44 | Torhal | Runeforging becomes Runeforge in French. |
| 09:14.53 | Adirelle|work | http://fr.wowhead.com/spells=7.6.776 |
| 09:15.00 | Adirelle|work | the name of the profession is there |
| 09:15.18 | Adirelle|work | I think it isn't related to an existing spell |
| 09:16.32 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsGb9SDcCU&hd=1 |
| 09:16.33 | Torhal | Well, shit. |
| 09:16.35 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: Umm isn't it arguable that it's a proper name? |
| 09:17.07 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, "runeforger" is a verb |
| 09:17.57 | Shefki | Thought we were talking about what they were using for the profession name? |
| 09:19.05 | Adirelle|work | I know |
| 09:19.19 | Adirelle|work | for whatever reason, the translation team decided it would be a verb... |
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| 09:20.05 | Shefki | Based on the deDE screwup, I think their translation team sucks. |
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| 09:20.37 | Adirelle|work | rogues' lockpicking is translated by "crochetage" which is both a "legit" word and a common name |
| 09:20.56 | Adirelle|work | just don't ask... |
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| 09:21.56 | Adirelle|work | BTW, Shefki EU servers seem still down, so I'll test blizzsuck again later |
| 09:22.07 | Shefki | ok |
| 09:24.58 | Repo | 10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 07master * v0.1-3-gf1ee904 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 09:25.00 | Repo | f1ee904: Library stuff. |
| 09:25.01 | Repo | b7d1436: Micro Menu fixes... |
| 09:25.21 | asmodai | Shadowed: I like the comments on my low level characters from elitist armory :) |
| 09:26.30 | asmodai | Shadowed: Do you scan items on their bonuses to match them to a profile which you then match to the character's profile/role? |
| 09:26.38 | Shadowed | what |
| 09:27.01 | asmodai | Shadowed: e.g. http://www.elitistarmory.com/eu/Stormrage/Mayen |
| 09:27.26 | asmodai | Shadowed: Just wondering how you are picking up low level items to check against the role of the character. |
| 09:27.59 | Shadowed | Not realy sure what you mean by picking up |
| 09:28.17 | Shadowed | How am I classifying low level items? |
| 09:28.22 | asmodai | Shadowed: yea |
| 09:28.30 | asmodai | Shadowed: I don't think you manually check all items, do you? :) |
| 09:28.34 | Shadowed | Same way that I do it for every item, it's rule based |
| 09:28.51 | Shadowed | EG has the public rules, EAs are slightly diferrent but same concept |
| 09:29.08 | Shadowed | If stat X and Y, if stat X and Y but not Z etc |
| 09:29.13 | asmodai | Right |
| 09:29.21 | Shadowed | then manual overrides for the rare cases that I can't use rules |
| 09:29.38 | asmodai | Sensible implementation *nod* |
| 09:29.50 | Shadowed | It's about 25 rules to classify all the items |
| 09:29.54 | asmodai | Shadowed: So what triggers unknowns then for items with stats? |
| 09:30.02 | Shadowed | It doesn't match any rules |
| 09:30.25 | Shadowed | In that case, it's cause they don't have sTA |
| 09:30.35 | Shadowed | er they only have STA |
| 09:30.49 | Shadowed | low level item classification has never really been a priority or something I actually fix |
| 09:31.15 | asmodai | Oh, no, I can understand that. Just nice to see at least part of it working :) |
| 09:31.33 | asmodai | Especially since most other sites only concern themselves with end-tier gaming. |
| 09:31.47 | Shadowed | It's supposed to work with every item from at least 60 onwards |
| 09:32.00 | Shadowed | anything before that it's a coinflip |
| 09:32.03 | asmodai | Shadowed: ilvl? |
| 09:32.12 | Shadowed | player level |
| 09:32.12 | asmodai | or character level? |
| 09:32.14 | asmodai | ah |
| 09:34.37 | asmodai | Shadowed: btw - http://www.wowwiki.com/Item_suffix has a classification for animal name suffixes, maybe that comes in handy a bit |
| 09:35.24 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc2-15-g71e6a45 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added a work-around for the French localization of the Runeforging "profession" not being conformant with GetSpellInfo(). Hopefully fixes ticket #990. |
| 09:39.03 | Mikk | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsink-2-0/tickets/6-add-send-output-to-group/#c14 <- i think that's what he needs to hear |
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| 09:45.44 | harl | login server still unavailable :/ |
| 09:46.10 | Kalroth | server is down until midnight anyways |
| 09:46.23 | ramoz | only 1 battlegroup |
| 09:46.25 | harl | some are |
| 09:46.33 | Kalroth | harls server will definitely be! |
| 09:46.58 | harl | yes, and no, i do play on more than one realm in different battle groups |
| 09:48.45 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r24 / (4 files in 2 directories): Add a new widget "MessageBox" |
| 09:51.27 | asmodai | Yeah, my battlegroup XD |
| 09:51.29 | asmodai | Although |
| 09:51.36 | asmodai | wonders if his Horde alts are affected |
| 09:51.39 | asmodai | ~wowalert |
| 09:51.40 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 09:51.53 | asmodai | Ahh, no. Good. ^^ |
| 09:52.16 | Repo | 10blizzsucks: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.3-1-ge8f39ed BlizzSucks.lua: [+1 commit] Add detection of the addon calling BNSendWhisper to the exploit protection. |
| 09:52.18 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: ^ |
| 09:52.46 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, nice ^^ |
| 09:53.19 | Shefki | "WARNING: The AddOn 'PeggleOff' attempted to discover your Real Name, BlizzSucks has blocked this." |
| 09:53.36 | asmodai | GER|koaschten: http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=1855897#post1855897 |
| 09:55.10 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: And the OpenToCategory stuff is working for me. |
| 09:55.12 | Adirelle|work | "WARNING: The AddOn 'PeggleOff' attempted to discover your Real Name, BlizzSucks has blocked this. Do you want to disable it ?" |
| 09:55.44 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, ok, so I'll try again once the servers are back online. the maintenance has been extended... |
| 09:56.17 | Shefki | And I tested by doing /tomtom with BlizzSucks enabled and disabled. |
| 09:56.32 | Shefki | Without it, the itnerface window comes up but it doesn't go to TomTom's pane. |
| 09:56.35 | Shefki | With it does. |
| 09:56.46 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: It's not a popup, it's just a message in the chat box. |
| 09:57.02 | Adirelle|work | yes, I know, jk |
| 09:57.06 | Shefki | I'm hesitant to make it a popup. |
| 09:57.52 | Adirelle|work | er, about "open to category", try with addons when their name isn't visible in the list |
| 09:58.00 | Repo | 10blizzsucks: 03Shefki 043.3.5.4 * 8bfc993 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.4 |
| 09:58.13 | Shefki | TomTom is the last item on my list and is usually scrolled off. |
| 09:58.17 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 09:59.07 | Adirelle|work | I'll redo more accurate tests then, to see what's the culprit |
| 10:01.40 | harl | thinks that there should be something edible called <br/>, maybe some kind of bread or imitation cheese. and a showering gel or something called <body>. |
| 10:02.42 | harl | "mmmh, that fresh <br/> looks delicious!" |
| 10:02.47 | harl | oO |
| 10:03.35 | harl | and generally most texts printed along edibles should just be abbreviated with "tl;dr", except ingredients lists. |
| 10:10.00 | asmodai | harl: lol |
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| 10:21.12 | Fisker | btw Shefki |
| 10:21.16 | Fisker | how does that exploit work? |
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| 10:21.56 | Shefki | Fisker: You're on your Real ID friends list yourself, but your own entry is not shown to yourself. |
| 10:22.17 | Shefki | Fisker: The exploit whispers you and reveals your Real Name via the to/from text in the whisper. |
| 10:22.18 | GER|koaschten | ./run for i=1,100 do if BNIsSelf(i)then BNSendWhisper(i,"RealID whisper from yourself..");break end end |
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| 10:22.37 | Shefki | GER|koaschten: Even better: /run BNSendWhisper(BNGetInfo(),"Text") |
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| 10:23.02 | Shefki | The one you gave will fail for some people, my presenceID is above 100. |
| 10:23.22 | Fisker | but isn't that locally? |
| 10:23.35 | GER|koaschten | yeah, add that to an addon, make it communicate ... |
| 10:23.46 | Shefki | Yes. But the complaint is that an addon could get your real name and then provide it to other players via comms. |
| 10:23.49 | GER|koaschten | there you go, gearscore to your realname |
| 10:23.59 | Fisker | I thought the addons could get that without any work |
| 10:24.15 | Shefki | Fisker: Not the current players Real Name, only their friends. |
| 10:24.23 | Fisker | oh |
| 10:25.06 | Shefki | Blizzard went so far as to make BNGetFriendInfoByID(BNGetInfo()) return nothing. |
| 10:25.16 | Shefki | So I'm guessing they didn't intend to expose the players name to addons. |
| 10:25.26 | GER|koaschten | i can't wait for any prominent inspect addon to implement that and if someone with that addon inspects someone who got that addon too, you get a line under the player name showing the real name *chuckle* |
| 10:25.45 | Shefki | GER|koaschten: I've already added protection from it to BlizzSucks. |
| 10:25.56 | GER|koaschten | i know because i already updated ;) |
| 10:25.58 | Shefki | Even identifies the addon trying to get your real name. |
| 10:27.32 | GER|koaschten | but if the day didn't suck badly enough due to real id shit, my sis called me earlier to tell me she got tested for some allergies and got told to not eat wheat, tomato, milk and some more stuff until a further testing in 5 weeks... |
| 10:27.34 | GER|koaschten | :/ |
| 10:28.03 | asmodai | ugh |
| 10:33.36 | Repo | 10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 07master * v0.2 mCore.lua: [+1 commit] Tweaks |
| 10:33.43 | Repo | 10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 04v0.2 * e70fab8 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.2 |
| 10:35.56 | Torhal | Schleeeep. |
| 10:36.16 | Adys | Torhal: what did you need? |
| 10:37.35 | Torhal | Adys: Oh, French Runeforging profession apparently doesn't follow the GetSpellInfo() convention. I added a workaround. |
| 10:38.12 | Adys | fair enough |
| 10:38.24 | Torhal | The skill is "Runeforge" and the "profession" is "Runeforger", which isn't consistent with other locales. |
| 10:39.10 | Torhal | Anywho...schleeeep. |
| 10:39.52 | Adys | Torhal: i can get that for you yes |
| 10:39.59 | Adys | if you still need anything |
| 10:40.12 | Adys | its a special field in skilline.dbc |
| 10:40.56 | Kalroth | You're a special field |
| 10:42.40 | asmodai | Better than a killing field? |
| 10:43.39 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.5 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Rename addon to BlizzBugsSuck to make Cairenn happy. |
| 10:43.46 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 043.3.5.5 * d4dc271 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.5 |
| 10:44.10 | Cairenn | it isn't to make ME happy, Shefki :p |
| 10:44.32 | Elkano | just to not make THEM mad? ;) |
| 10:44.36 | asmodai | Hahaha |
| 10:44.44 | Cairenn | that'd be closer, yup |
| 10:44.51 | Cairenn | :p |
| 10:44.57 | asmodai | Cairenn: Admit, you feel more special now ;) |
| 10:45.05 | Cairenn | not |
| 10:50.55 | Kalroth | It was a silly name to begin with :p |
| 10:51.31 | Shefki | There all fixed. |
| 10:55.32 | GER|koaschten | hmmm anyone happen to know the real names of vaneras, slorkuz or wryxian? :X |
| 10:55.40 | GER|koaschten | i feel like sending someone a pizza *cough* |
| 10:56.03 | Pucmel | john smith |
| 10:56.50 | Shefki | GER|koaschten: They don't make policy decisions, send the pizza to Mike Morhaime. |
| 10:57.04 | asmodai | Wryx is from NL at least |
| 10:57.33 | GER|koaschten | yeah but unhappy employees are more happy to forward unhappy customers to people up the ladder |
| 10:57.58 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 07master * 3.3.5.6 BlizzBugsSuck.lua: [+1 commit] Forgot to change the warning strings when renaming thhe addon. |
| 10:58.05 | Repo | 10blizzbugssuck: 03Shefki 043.3.5.6 * d83271d /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.5.6 |
| 11:02.05 | Shefki | Hopefully I don't have to screw with it anymore. |
| 11:02.43 | Cairenn | :p |
| 11:02.45 | asmodai | Shefki: Tough luck ;) |
| 11:02.53 | Megalon | http://memegenerator.net/scared-white-girl/ImageMacro/1532298/scared-white-girl-I-found-her-using-RealID-Now-we-can-RP-in-real-life-3.jpg |
| 11:03.39 | PigFlyingPastWin | dow. |
| 11:08.44 | asmodai | Megalon: heh |
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| 11:41.16 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.261-beta * r361 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 11:41.18 | Repo | - Tagged as beta. |
| 11:55.36 | Adirelle|work | france has adopted some time ago a law to track illegal downloads on p2p networks |
| 11:56.09 | Adirelle|work | in the same idea, Orange, the historical french ISP is providing a software to "secure your computer again illegal P2P downloads" |
| 11:56.20 | Adirelle|work | but they obviously do not know how to code |
| 11:56.32 | Adirelle|work | http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jun/346 |
| 11:57.28 | SunTsu | Adirelle|work: yeah, HADOPI is being made fun of since it exists |
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| 12:07.29 | [Ammo] | the future of wow :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l1_8wefR7c |
| 12:10.49 | asmodai | hahahaha |
| 12:11.15 | [Ammo] | or like someone else posted: "now I don't have to go to that cartoony new marvel mmo to find kids to ... befriend" |
| 12:11.25 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: Updated my post to account for the BN_NEW_PRESENCE event. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626350209&sid=1 |
| 12:12.03 | asmodai | [Ammo]: ouch |
| 12:12.53 | asmodai | Shefki: BlizzBugsSuck ? |
| 12:12.58 | asmodai | I thought it was BlizzSucks :P |
| 12:13.05 | Shefki | Had to rename it. |
| 12:13.11 | asmodai | hahahaha |
| 12:13.25 | Shefki | points at Cairenn |
| 12:13.41 | asmodai | Not even a blue, but Cairenn? :) |
| 12:13.59 | Cairenn | I thought we already went through this? |
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| 12:14.20 | Shefki | You're the one that requested the change. |
| 12:15.55 | asmodai | Oh well, at least it keep you at friendly rep with Blizzard ;) |
| 12:16.23 | Shefki | I'd say I'm at hated, they won't even talk to us anymore anyway. |
| 12:16.37 | Shefki | So what good is it being "friendly" with people that refuse to engage in a conversation with you anyway. |
| 12:17.07 | asmodai | Shefki: They've gone silent on the UI forum? |
| 12:17.29 | Shefki | asmodai: There hasn't been a post on that forum except for moderation or policy posts in a very long time. |
| 12:17.34 | asmodai | oh wow indeed, hardly any blues anymore :( |
| 12:17.48 | asmodai | Darn, I remember the time when sloken was posting there pretty regularly. |
| 12:18.17 | Shefki | Slouken has been gone for probably 2 years now. |
| 12:18.22 | Elkano | shefki, how could setting !BlizzBugsSuck as dep hurt? it would still load first |
| 12:18.31 | Elkano | (besides there is no reason to add it) |
| 12:18.43 | Shefki | Elkano: errm I was thinking the other way around. |
| 12:18.52 | asmodai | Shefki: I don't monitor US fora as frequently as EU ones. Damn. Slouken was cool :( |
| 12:19.03 | Shefki | You're right they'd need to get BlizBugsSuck to add them as a dep. |
| 12:19.57 | Elkano | asmodai, I think in EU we still have sticky posts for 2.x stuff :/ |
| 12:20.11 | Shefki | Elkano: Do you even have a UI forum? |
| 12:20.15 | Shefki | Elkano: I thought you didn'tt. |
| 12:20.15 | asmodai | Wedo. |
| 12:20.23 | Elkano | we do |
| 12:20.27 | asmodai | But it's just meh |
| 12:20.34 | Adirelle|work | it's quite useless |
| 12:20.39 | Elkano | eg for de: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11124&sid=3 |
| 12:20.47 | asmodai | or what Adirelle says |
| 12:20.50 | Adirelle|work | for addon developpers I mean |
| 12:20.58 | Shefki | asmodai: But honestly, my addon contains a fix for a bug that's been in the UI since 2.4 |
| 12:21.07 | Shefki | A bug that we have told them exactly how to fix. |
| 12:21.14 | Shefki | All someone would have to do is drop the code in. |
| 12:21.47 | Shefki | asmodai: At this point we're not even getting Iriel's post with explanations of new APIs (probably because he's not getting it from them). |
| 12:22.10 | asmodai | ah, yea, that's a sticky name I was missing |
| 12:22.13 | asmodai | wth |
| 12:22.24 | asmodai | did they barricade their devs from communicating? |
| 12:22.34 | Shefki | I think the new ones just aren't interested in it. |
| 12:22.58 | Cairenn | More like don't have time |
| 12:23.47 | Shefki | Cairenn: Then the CMs should play go between. |
| 12:23.53 | Cairenn | agreed |
| 12:24.17 | Shefki | We have valueable information for them that would help them do their jobs better. |
| 12:24.38 | Shefki | But no communication means they don't get that. |
| 12:24.57 | Shefki | Not that it'll matter, I suspect a lot of the regulars on the UI & Macros forums will disappear with the Real ID forums nonsense. |
| 12:25.16 | Elkano | I wonder if it has to do with B becoming AB :/ |
| 12:25.41 | Cairenn | Shefki: yup, to the second part, and to the first, there's still always avenues to get info to them - I still have the relationship with them that I've always had |
| 12:25.53 | Cairenn | it's always been possible to pass stuff to me to forward along |
| 12:25.54 | asmodai | Elkano: It's does curiously coincide a bit |
| 12:26.26 | Shefki | I think it coincides more with WoW being less important inside Blizzard. |
| 12:26.38 | Shefki | I think the focus is on other projects. |
| 12:26.42 | asmodai | Shefki: SC2 and D3 taking the focus? |
| 12:26.50 | Shefki | The developers who were interested in engaging are on them, not WoW. |
| 12:26.58 | Elkano | I mean stuff like the mount/pet shop or the remote auction house... there are so many things I didn't expect from Blizzard :/ |
| 12:27.35 | Shefki | Well I think it's safe to say that Activision is pushing Blizzard to capitalize on WoW more than they have. |
| 12:27.38 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering if Blizzard will continue with their realid forum idea or will alter it too allow "unique pseudo" instead of real names |
| 12:28.05 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: I wouldn't anticipate any change on their standing on this. |
| 12:28.11 | Shefki | Few of their users use the forums. |
| 12:28.22 | Shefki | They view the forums as entirely optional. |
| 12:28.34 | Elkano | the main problem is that most likely there'll still be enough people that don't care and keep on posting |
| 12:28.35 | Adirelle|work | anyway, it causes legal issues in some countries, including france |
| 12:29.07 | Shefki | Elkano: There will, but I think it'll drive enough people away so as to destroy the quality of community. |
| 12:29.08 | Elkano | Adirelle, it does? even though posting is opt-in? |
| 12:29.21 | Adirelle|work | IMHO that's complicated |
| 12:29.30 | Shefki | I don't really see how it's a legal issue. |
| 12:29.39 | Shefki | You choose to post, you choose to reveal your real name. |
| 12:29.42 | Shefki | Don't like it don't post. |
| 12:29.54 | Shefki | It's really no different than Facebook. |
| 12:30.04 | Shefki | You're technically not allowed to open a Facebook account with a false name. |
| 12:30.11 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, that's false |
| 12:30.30 | Adirelle|work | I know lots of people using two facebook accounts, one "real" and one for "anonymous stuff" |
| 12:30.33 | Shefki | How is that false? Anyone can see your name if you have a Facebook account. |
| 12:30.39 | Adirelle|work | yes |
| 12:30.42 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: It's a violation of their terms of service. |
| 12:30.50 | Shefki | Just because people are ignoring it doesn't make it allowed. |
| 12:30.55 | Shefki | If they get caught they ban them. |
| 12:31.17 | Adirelle|work | the same applies top battle.net BTW |
| 12:31.18 | Shefki | Saying that it's allowed is a bit like saying you can sell WoW accounts because people have. |
| 12:31.30 | Shefki | Adirelle|work: Sure, but that doesn't change my point. |
| 12:31.44 | Shefki | My point is that the two things are directly analagous. |
| 12:32.00 | Adirelle|work | France has some laws concerning personal informations |
| 12:32.02 | Shefki | If you have a Facebook account, whatever you put in the name field is viewable by anyone. |
| 12:32.20 | Adirelle|work | (the oldest of them are dated from 1978...) |
| 12:32.50 | Shefki | I seriously doubt that Blizzard has neglected to look into those issues. |
| 12:33.08 | Adirelle|work | well, I think they can barely be directly attacked on those pointsd |
| 12:33.09 | Adirelle|work | points* |
| 12:33.42 | Shefki | I really don't see what we can do about it. It's not a required action of playing the game. |
| 12:33.53 | Shefki | You can choose not to post on the forums. |
| 12:34.01 | Adirelle|work | http://www.cnil.fr/english/ |
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| 12:35.18 | asmodai | It's Xinhuan |
| 12:35.34 | Xinhuan | hi |
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| 12:41.34 | Stanzilla | a friend just called that blizzard guy that posted his real name on the forums haha |
| 12:42.57 | asmodai | oh dear XD |
| 12:46.32 | asmodai | Stanzilla: He was amused? |
| 12:46.38 | Stanzilla | didn't pick up |
| 12:46.53 | Stanzilla | now he's thinking about writing him a sms |
| 12:47.21 | asmodai | heh |
| 12:48.08 | arkanes | it's 5am in california right now |
| 12:48.28 | arkanes | maybe thats why he's not answering |
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| 12:50.34 | Repo | - initial code population |
| 13:01.20 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 07cataclysm * r2723 / (5 files in 2 directories): -- fix next/prev bug |
| 13:01.22 | Repo | -- fix Options button |
| 13:01.23 | Repo | -- some small bugfixes |
| 13:01.55 | harl | http://bash.org/?656481 |
| 13:02.06 | harl | i wonder what an answer to such a delicate security question would look like |
| 13:02.27 | harl | "Yeah, uhm, my cock's 7.00787402 inches when erect. Can I please have my money back now?" |
| 13:02.30 | harl | something like that? oO |
| 13:05.08 | asmodai | I like this one on bash: |
| 13:05.09 | asmodai | < gordonjcp> I'm trying to enjoy the vuvuzela concert and some prick keeps playing football |
| 13:05.22 | harl | yea |
| 13:06.43 | SunTsu | asmodai: http://www.theonion.com/articles/south-african-vuvuzela-philharmonic-angered-by-soc,17625/ |
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| 13:08.29 | Repo | 10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu * r47 FuBar_DominosFu.toc: Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 13:08.30 | Repo | - No change, just making sure the latest version of the libraries are included |
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| 13:08.54 | quiescens | moo? |
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| 13:14.50 | asmodai | rofl: |
| 13:14.51 | asmodai | <Velkyr> Why is it when your wife or girlfriend gets pregnant, all her friends rub her belly and say "congratulations!" |
| 13:14.54 | asmodai | <Velkyr> But nobody rubs your dick and says "Good Job"? |
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| 13:16.25 | quiescens | go to sleep asmodai |
| 13:17.30 | asmodai | I'm at work |
| 13:17.35 | asmodai | oh wait |
| 13:17.47 | quiescens | they don't need to know |
| 13:18.13 | asmodai | I'm actually waiting for a test to finish running |
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| 13:40.19 | Adirelle|work | Shefki, forget what I said about interfaceoptions_opentocategory, I was probably tired or drunk when I saw the "bugs" |
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| 13:55.56 | Repo | - alpha test 2 |
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| 14:04.33 | Stanzilla | nowai |
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| 14:19.01 | Megalon | Bash the changes now, but when we finally catch Osama Bin Laden because he posted how Boomkins and starfall are OP, you will sing a different toon. |
| 14:22.11 | pentium166 | I see what you did there. |
| 14:22.33 | Megalon | even osama knows how op starfall is |
| 14:22.34 | Megalon | FFS |
| 14:24.22 | pentium166 | Have you heard about the five-moonkin arena teams who just run in and blow starfall? |
| 14:24.42 | pentium166 | heard of/encountered |
| 14:29.15 | Wobin | I had a boomkin in my underbog run |
| 14:29.20 | Wobin | who used Starfall =( |
| 14:29.26 | Wobin | thank god for warbringer |
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| 14:35.22 | Megalon | :D |
| 14:38.09 | Megalon | starfall is the best aoe taunt there is :7 |
| 14:38.54 | Stanzilla | yeah, watching our moonkins fail because of it on halion is fun |
| 14:39.17 | sbu | bahh halion trash... BAAHHH :p |
| 14:39.31 | sbu | wiped ~3 times yesterday |
| 14:39.45 | vhaarr | the 25man trash? just CC :P |
| 14:40.34 | sbu | yup, but CC breaks on damage/aoe... ;) |
| 14:41.15 | Stanzilla | I meant the adds |
| 14:41.17 | Stanzilla | not the trash^^ |
| 14:41.54 | sbu | oh, that miniboss with his spawning add-waves? |
| 14:42.00 | sbu | yea... fun... *sigh* :) |
| 14:42.19 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ark-inventory-rules/. ArkInventory Rules. Arkayenro (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:42.41 | Stanzilla | nooo |
| 14:42.48 | Stanzilla | halion hardmode spawns adds |
| 14:42.52 | Stanzilla | on every meteor |
| 14:43.04 | sbu | ahhh |
| 14:43.04 | sbu | :) |
| 14:43.05 | Ackis | @ping |
| 14:43.05 | Repo | pong |
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| 15:15.54 | steev | woot |
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| 15:54.18 | Kaelten | g'morning, hope people had a good weekend |
| 15:58.48 | Adirelle | epic answer, even Fisker couldn't do it : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=134496#3 |
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| 16:04.07 | Cyprias | Even Hitler's unhappy about the forum change. |
| 16:04.08 | Cyprias | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA |
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| 16:13.23 | Adirelle | ty Cyprias :D |
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| 16:27.36 | Ackis | nevcairiel: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18284 -> http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2378-attachment-download-not-working/ |
| 16:27.38 | Ackis | Kaelten: ^ |
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| 16:30.44 | Kaelten | fixed |
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| 17:01.50 | nevcairiel | how does it break every other day o.O |
| 17:02.50 | Fisker | i love you nevcairiel |
| 17:04.04 | orionshock | well i guess we need a firewall addon for the wow api due to concerns over the Battlenet API . . . . |
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| 17:06.14 | asmodai | Did season 2 of Warehouse 13 start already? |
| 17:09.08 | nevcairiel | so, total talent system revamp, eh |
| 17:09.13 | nevcairiel | less points, less talents |
| 17:10.00 | asmodai | eh? |
| 17:10.04 | asmodai | Was? |
| 17:10.35 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626290449 |
| 17:11.05 | nevcairiel | they are reducing trees to 31-point talents |
| 17:11.16 | nevcairiel | and reducing your points with it |
| 17:11.44 | nevcairiel | also, direct commitment to one tree |
| 17:11.47 | nevcairiel | i kinda like that |
| 17:12.27 | asmodai | reads |
| 17:12.46 | nevcairiel | especially awesoem for leveling a new char |
| 17:12.48 | durcyn | harder to spot the retards now though, can't just look at 20/20/20 specs and laugh |
| 17:13.10 | nevcairiel | hit lvl 10, chose your spec, get some nice spec-related things |
| 17:13.33 | kagaro | yeah but till you hit 31 points in the tree you can use the other trees |
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| 17:14.48 | nevcairiel | eh? |
| 17:15.23 | nevcairiel | that would be "can't" |
| 17:15.30 | kagaro | When players reach level 10, they are presented with basic information on the three specializations within their class and are asked to choose one. Then they spend their talent point. The other trees darken and are unavailable until 31 points are spent in the chosen tree. The character is awarded an active ability, and one or more passive bonuses unique to the tree they've chosen. As they gain levels, they'll alternate between receiving a |
| 17:15.42 | nevcairiel | I read that |
| 17:15.45 | nevcairiel | but you said it wrong |
| 17:15.50 | kagaro | ohh yeah oops |
| 17:16.09 | nevcairiel | Its kinda nice too |
| 17:16.26 | nevcairiel | although i'm a druid, i would always spec like that |
| 17:16.30 | Ackis | nevcairiel: is it only a single tree or after level 31/41/whenever you get 31 points, you can branch out? |
| 17:16.42 | nevcairiel | you have to spend 31 in one tree |
| 17:16.49 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 17:16.49 | nevcairiel | after that you can get stuff from other trees |
| 17:16.59 | kagaro | Ackis: it will take level 70 to get 31 talent points now |
| 17:17.08 | NeoTron | so once again there will be a drastic change in a core system between beta and release |
| 17:17.11 | Ackis | ah I didn't realize that kagaro |
| 17:17.21 | NeoTron | original vanilla wow had many variations of what finally became talents |
| 17:17.21 | nevcairiel | there will only be 41 points at level 85 |
| 17:17.47 | kagaro | so wonder how many new players will level as non tanks gg low level instances |
| 17:18.39 | nevcairiel | and yeah, you are locked to one tree until lvl 70 |
| 17:19.47 | asmodai | Seeing stuff like this I wonder just what the hell they've been working on all this time :P |
| 17:19.57 | NeoTron | ah they revamped mastery too |
| 17:20.17 | kagaro | asmodai the yet un-named mmo |
| 17:20.25 | nevcairiel | asmodai: you see big changes and you wonder what they were working on? I'm confused :p |
| 17:20.30 | NeoTron | asmodai: sort of what I was thinking about when I joined cata. :P very little seemed to have been done at that point |
| 17:20.43 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: more like the big changes are mentioned but not yet done |
| 17:20.57 | nevcairiel | implementing is easy |
| 17:21.00 | NeoTron | I wonder how far ahead their internal builds are |
| 17:21.12 | nevcairiel | and yeah, the betas they push are usually alot behind |
| 17:21.40 | nevcairiel | back in wotlk beta when i had zoot fix some UI bug, it was like .. might take 3-4 pushes until you see it |
| 17:21.44 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I mean, these are big core changes in the beta :P |
| 17:21.45 | NeoTron | what you see in the cata beta today is far ahead of what it was just a little while ago |
| 17:22.00 | nevcairiel | asmodai: well thats what beta is for! |
| 17:22.13 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Well, yes and no, depending on your view point ;) |
| 17:22.19 | nevcairiel | and i like the new system |
| 17:22.25 | NeoTron | it's a good change |
| 17:22.28 | NeoTron | excellent in fact |
| 17:22.32 | asmodai | Still reading -- I have to cook dinner as well at the same time. |
| 17:22.37 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:23.41 | Repo | 10charscanner: 03kunda * r46 CharScanner.lua: |
| 17:23.43 | Repo | Another update for the Achievement/Talent scan restriction (Patch 3.3.5): |
| 17:23.44 | Repo | If raid size is 6, 12, 18, 24, 30 or 36: no 10-second break after the last unit scan. |
| 17:26.47 | Repo | 10charscanner: 03kunda 0430300-7 * r47 : Tagging as 30300-7 |
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| 17:28.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://twitpic.com/237nj0 |
| 17:31.25 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 17:31.30 | nevcairiel | and that they voted for |
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| 17:32.53 | nevcairiel | someone should tell that guy that substitution for babble is a bad idea |
| 17:36.05 | asmodai | Shadowed: btw, when EA gets a tooltip timeout -- will it retry at some point? |
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| 17:50.12 | Niv | man, I've never seen a 1200 page thread before |
| 17:50.15 | Niv | on the blizz forums |
| 17:50.23 | asmodai | realid? :) |
| 17:50.26 | Niv | yea |
| 17:50.39 | Niv | I have this sinking feeling that it'll happen anyway |
| 17:52.14 | asmodai | obviously 1200+ pages is full of trolls |
| 17:52.39 | Kaelten | I think the overall best solution is to have an account wide nickname that gets shown instead of or in addition to your posts |
| 17:52.56 | Kaelten | accomplishes the goal of reduced anonyminity and keeps things more private |
| 17:53.00 | asmodai | Kaelten: indeed |
| 17:53.06 | asmodai | Thing is |
| 17:53.13 | asmodai | it might be because of the Blizzard/Facebook deal |
| 17:53.41 | Repo | 10libbabble-subzone-3-0: 03arith * r19 LibBabble-SubZone-3.0.lua: translation update |
| 17:53.51 | Kaelten | heh, it's possible |
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| 17:54.10 | Niv | Kaelten: I agree as well, but they are clearly resisting this idae |
| 17:54.12 | Niv | idea* |
| 17:54.29 | Niv | it's an obvious choice |
| 17:54.36 | Kaelten | it'll be interesting to see how much pressure the cancled subs put on them |
| 17:54.43 | asmodai | Kaelten: which will be fun since FB can't cope with my family name |
| 17:54.45 | asmodai | the fucks |
| 17:54.46 | Kaelten | since that's more likely to make a measurable impact |
| 17:55.38 | quiescens | moo |
| 17:55.49 | Kaelten | it'd have to be a significant amount of subs for it to make a serious impact though |
| 17:56.29 | Shefki | Kaelten: The canceled subs are probably isnsignificant, we know very few of their users actually use the forums. |
| 17:56.50 | Kaelten | who knows thought, that could cause someone at activision to look at the bottom line and say "stop it" of course if there's a real facebook deal of some sort it could compensate for the lost accounts |
| 17:57.12 | Shefki | Compensate how? Facebook has no money. |
| 17:57.17 | Kaelten | Shefki: ya, it'd have to be what, 250k, 500k people before it'd be a serious serious issue |
| 17:57.23 | Kaelten | Shefki: they have money, they just burn it |
| 17:57.33 | Shefki | Right and it's not sustainable. |
| 17:57.36 | Shefki | Subscribers are. |
| 17:57.45 | Shefki | Investment money thrown at blizzard via Facebook isn't. |
| 17:57.54 | Shefki | Surely Blizzard's people can see that. |
| 17:57.59 | Kaelten | yeah, and there are other ways that people can measure compensate |
| 17:58.01 | NeoTron | Kaelten: like.. Cryptic |
| 17:58.16 | Kaelten | not just, "here's a bag of money" |
| 17:58.24 | Kaelten | as in if there was some long term value add that they can see from riding this out |
| 17:58.29 | Shefki | Fair enough. |
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| 17:59.09 | Kaelten | one thing I've learned from working with curse is that the point of views of the workers and consumers can be significantly different |
| 17:59.19 | Wobin | Clearly the forums need some better measurement of people than RealID |
| 17:59.23 | Wobin | I propose GearScore |
| 17:59.34 | Ackis | old Wobin |
| 17:59.34 | Kaelten | seemingly bad/poor/insane decisions can make a lot more sense when more information is available |
| 17:59.39 | Ackis | I used that joke yesterday |
| 18:00.19 | Kaelten | Ackis: uhhuh |
| 18:00.22 | Kaelten | I didn't see it |
| 18:00.36 | Ackis | you don't see much where your head is ;) |
| 18:01.11 | Wobin | where's your head at |
| 18:01.13 | Wobin | where's your head |
| 18:01.31 | Kaelten | don't know but ackis nees to remove his from his own arse before he suffocates |
| 18:01.54 | Ackis | my head is busy pushing red buttons. They say "I win" on them right Torhal? |
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| 18:02.53 | Wobin | Ackis: You just lost the game |
| 18:03.23 | Shefki | Kaelten: Well if they're hoping this social stuff drives subscribers and purchases of their other games I think it can explain a lot. |
| 18:03.25 | Ackis | I don't play the game |
| 18:03.42 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:03.48 | Shefki | Kaelten: But frankly, they made me regret buying SCII already. |
| 18:04.04 | Kaelten | Shefki: and it very well could be, getting tons of battle.net announcements plastering facebook is an affective marketing strategy |
| 18:04.18 | Kaelten | oh, why? I love the game. |
| 18:04.18 | Dessa | Ackis: you do even if you don't. |
| 18:04.23 | Shefki | They're playing with fire. |
| 18:04.27 | Wobin | It's true |
| 18:04.34 | Shefki | It could go really well or could be disasterous. |
| 18:04.39 | Wobin | -Everyone- is playing the game |
| 18:05.24 | Shefki | The problem for them is that while lots of people play the game, a lot (if not most) of those people prefer to be private about that. |
| 18:05.50 | Kaelten | nods |
| 18:05.54 | Shefki | Pushing people kicking and screaming into the open isn't going to help them as much as finding ways to make it socially acceptable to be a WoW player. |
| 18:06.00 | Shefki | I'm not sure what those ways would be though. |
| 18:06.10 | Kaelten | ya |
| 18:06.13 | Kaelten | this may be that way though |
| 18:06.22 | Kaelten | it's almost impossible to know unless they stick to it |
| 18:06.25 | Shefki | Yeah that had occured to me. |
| 18:06.47 | Kaelten | I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm definately not 100% on board |
| 18:06.57 | Kaelten | but at the same time, I can't help but to be mildly curious about how it'll play out |
| 18:07.11 | Wobin | I think the issue really is |
| 18:07.14 | Shefki | All that said, I think that even without real names on the forums they could acheive all that. |
| 18:07.17 | Wobin | that we're all interested in how it'll play out |
| 18:07.23 | Wobin | but as long as we're not a part of it |
| 18:07.29 | Shefki | I think the Real Names on the forums is a cop out to make moderation easier. |
| 18:07.49 | Shefki | Which oddly is them using the very negative stigma that their game has against their players. |
| 18:07.57 | Wobin | why can't they just have a filter for the mods so they see the bnet logins instead |
| 18:07.58 | Shefki | Which I think is a poor move. |
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| 18:08.11 | Shefki | Wobin: They probably already do. But that's not the point. |
| 18:08.20 | Shefki | The point is making people behave because their real name is attached. |
| 18:08.26 | Kaelten | ya, I don't see it making moderation easier/harder |
| 18:08.30 | Wobin | the point being they're using a programmed solution for a social issue? |
| 18:08.40 | Shefki | Funny thing is I behave because "Shefki" is attached and that identity has meaning to me. |
| 18:08.55 | Shefki | Even if it isn't my real name. |
| 18:09.00 | Kaelten | I will say, having tried to talk constructively on the forums over issues, it's impossible. The trolls are out in force and enjoy it too much |
| 18:09.12 | Kaelten | some form of accountability makes sense |
| 18:09.19 | Shefki | I don't believe that Real Names on forum posts will stop that. |
| 18:09.24 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 18:09.29 | Kaelten | very possible |
| 18:09.30 | Shefki | You'll just have trolls make sock puppet accounts with fake names. |
| 18:09.32 | Wobin | because 'accountablilty' is to the account owner |
| 18:09.34 | Wobin | not the player |
| 18:09.38 | orionshock | hehe, the days of the anonymousness interweb is coming to an end. |
| 18:09.44 | Shefki | Given that Blizzard is selling classic wow accounts for $5. |
| 18:09.47 | nevcairiel | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/ |
| 18:09.49 | Shefki | You can make throw away ones. |
| 18:09.50 | nevcairiel | while on the topic |
| 18:09.51 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 18:09.53 | Wobin | so Margaret Jones, mother of four, will suddenly have a forum presence |
| 18:10.20 | Kaelten | but it will stop people from being two faced, I know one guy who had a good rep with his main, but he had two or three alts he used to troll people, even himself. Even had them across multiple accounts |
| 18:10.37 | Shefki | Kaelten: Those people will just move to different accounts. |
| 18:10.44 | Kaelten | yup, very likely |
| 18:10.48 | Shefki | Sure Blizzard will gain the account revenue for them. |
| 18:10.56 | Ac-town | but it stops a good amount of them |
| 18:11.00 | Shefki | But it doesn't take that many trolls to make life difficult. |
| 18:11.08 | Shefki | If they want to stop this they should get good moderation. |
| 18:11.11 | Kaelten | it increases the barrier to entry for being legitimate and a troll? |
| 18:11.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:11.20 | Ac-town | SA does it |
| 18:11.28 | Shefki | ElitistJerks manages to do well without requiring real names. |
| 18:11.32 | Kaelten | on the plus side, fansites rejoice, you have something the official forums don't! Privacy! |
| 18:11.33 | Ac-town | that $5 charge to get it stops plenty of people |
| 18:11.33 | Wobin | you're saying SA isn't full of trolls? =P |
| 18:11.44 | Ac-town | Wobin: No, but it stops some of them |
| 18:11.47 | nevcairiel | EJ also bans everyone that typos too much in his posts |
| 18:12.02 | Wobin | I could get behind that |
| 18:12.06 | Shefki | nevcairiel: So? |
| 18:12.08 | Kaelten | ya, EJ being as popular as it is, is some weird fucking anomolie |
| 18:12.16 | Kaelten | I don't think it's a viable widespread model |
| 18:12.37 | Shefki | Kaelten: Strong moderation is what keeps it good, EJ does something most other people aren't willing to do. |
| 18:12.41 | Shefki | They tell people to fuck off and mean it. |
| 18:12.47 | Kaelten | yup |
| 18:12.50 | Shefki | They tell people to fuck off early. |
| 18:12.51 | Nechckn | It is like those restaurants where the staff is "supposed" to be rude, nasty, et cetera. |
| 18:12.55 | GER|koaschten | Shefki: ElitistJerks manages to do well without requiring real names. |
| 18:12.58 | asmodai | Shefki: yeah, works well :) |
| 18:12.58 | Nechckn | Fun one time, silly the rest. |
| 18:12.59 | Kaelten | but if everyone did that they'd never be able to reach critical management |
| 18:13.01 | Kaelten | er |
| 18:13.04 | Kaelten | critical mass to maintain |
| 18:13.05 | GER|koaschten | the amount of moderators they burn out is big too though |
| 18:13.13 | Shefki | GER|koaschten: I pointed that out myself just a few lines up. :) |
| 18:13.20 | GER|koaschten | sry catching up ;) |
| 18:13.35 | Shefki | Kaelten: But that's the thing, the forums are an optional part of the game. |
| 18:13.42 | Shefki | Kaelten: Blizzard can and does ban people from just the forums. |
| 18:13.59 | GER|koaschten | the point the community is trying to proove is, blizzard is not going to stop at real names in forums |
| 18:14.00 | Kaelten | yup |
| 18:14.00 | Shefki | The problem is that Blizzard doesn't have the staff to read every post within 10 minutes of it being posted. |
| 18:14.03 | GER|koaschten | take my word |
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| 18:14.12 | Shefki | Until they have effective and TIMELY moderation... |
| 18:14.15 | Shefki | There will be trolls. |
| 18:14.25 | Shefki | Their big problem is the timely part. |
| 18:14.25 | Kaelten | GER|koaschten: biometric logins for our big brother-lords! |
| 18:14.33 | Shefki | THey often removoe stuff ages after it's relevant. |
| 18:14.38 | nevcairiel | They will never have enough moderators to moderate millions of players |
| 18:14.41 | Shefki | The troll has gotten what they want out of it by the time they remove it. |
| 18:14.43 | GER|koaschten | i carry my personal id in tinfoil so what? |
| 18:14.51 | GER|koaschten | (germany has biometric passports |
| 18:14.58 | Nechckn | As someone said, this could well be the beginning of the end to Internet "handles" if it goes well or it could make the world's most popular MMO, not the most popular MMO. |
| 18:15.12 | nevcairiel | biometric what? only thing biometric is the photo on it |
| 18:15.14 | Kaelten | Nechckn: either way it's an interesting turn of story. |
| 18:15.17 | nevcairiel | ePA is only coming later this year! |
| 18:15.44 | Kaelten | Nechckn: it could make the most popular MMO 10x bigger too, who knows. |
| 18:15.56 | Kaelten | (assumingt he ultimate goal is to make it more mainstream) |
| 18:16.05 | nevcairiel | ..more mainstream? |
| 18:16.14 | nevcairiel | its already *the* mainstream mmo |
| 18:16.28 | Nechckn | make what more mainstream? WoW? I cannot see them picking up too many more folks, honestly. |
| 18:16.52 | Kaelten | shrugs |
| 18:16.57 | Nechckn | As nevcairiel said, it is already huge and is, itself, an anomoly of sorts anyway. |
| 18:16.59 | Kaelten | I've no idea what the target goal really is |
| 18:17.23 | GER|koaschten | they just announced more mainstream for wow |
| 18:17.27 | Nechckn | That is the weird, WTF part... there *must* be something else in the works, too. |
| 18:17.28 | GER|koaschten | pick a role at lvl10 |
| 18:17.43 | Primer | !Viva España! |
| 18:17.44 | GER|koaschten | only be able to spec in another tree after you spent 31 points in it (aka at lvl70) |
| 18:17.56 | GER|koaschten | diaf Primer ;) |
| 18:17.58 | Shefki | I'm not going to lie, the talent point changes fix things that nagged at me recently when I leveled up my Mage. |
| 18:18.00 | nevcairiel | how is that mainstream? |
| 18:18.11 | Shefki | I didn't feel like a Frost Mage for quite a while. |
| 18:18.13 | nevcairiel | I like the changes, anyway |
| 18:18.21 | Kaelten | ya, I can't wait to try it out |
| 18:18.25 | Kaelten | don't think it's in the beta yet |
| 18:18.35 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 18:18.50 | Kaelten | ya, it wasn't when I hit 10 the other night |
| 18:19.09 | nevcairiel | why does every USian and their mother have beta yet |
| 18:19.11 | nevcairiel | do share |
| 18:19.17 | Kaelten | :D |
| 18:19.24 | Shefki | I don't have beta. |
| 18:19.35 | asmodai | looks sweetly at Kaelten |
| 18:19.37 | Shefki | I could but I'd want to play with addons anyway. |
| 18:19.55 | nevcairiel | Shefki: i'll take yours then :) |
| 18:20.05 | asmodai | nevcairiel: *grin* |
| 18:21.12 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Saving the code for my GF so we can play together. |
| 18:22.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:22.44 | Shefki | I have to say I'm amazed at how well Google converts Dutch to English. |
| 18:22.44 | Kaelten | ya, I'll start testing addons soon, I played with the stock ui because it was fun to see the changes |
| 18:22.49 | Kaelten | love the new dwarf/gnome area |
| 18:23.07 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r184 channelnames.lua: Half-done russian channel replacements. |
| 18:23.08 | Shefki | Kaelten: Thought addons were disabled currently. |
| 18:23.13 | Kaelten | are they? |
| 18:23.18 | nevcairiel | they are |
| 18:23.19 | Kaelten | I haven't tried actually, so not sure |
| 18:23.27 | nevcairiel | at least the changelog still claims so |
| 18:26.14 | asmodai | They still are for all I know |
| 18:28.52 | asmodai | eyes the new map for Azshara |
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| 18:31.25 | pentium166 | eyes the still distinctly un-mountain-like side of Hyjal from Azshara |
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| 18:31.41 | asmodai | How about the reshape in the form of a Horde symbol? :S |
| 18:31.51 | asmodai | Second horde symbol on the maps I've seen so far |
| 18:32.05 | nevcairiel | blizzard loves the horde more, clearly |
| 18:32.11 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Obviously |
| 18:33.10 | pentium166 | I think they love the unrealistic terrain faction, personally :| |
| 18:34.09 | asmodai | Still think they're taking the industrialization too far at times :S |
| 18:34.37 | Zyn | SUDDENLY ... pedestrians on the field |
| 18:35.31 | asmodai | So much for the streaker |
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| 18:38.07 | Gnarfoz | was that Jimmy Jump? ^^ |
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| 18:42.45 | asmodai | GAH |
| 18:42.49 | asmodai | vuvuzela overdose |
| 18:43.02 | nevcairiel | yeah hasnt really been this bad on the last games |
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| 18:52.09 | Primer | !Viva España! |
| 18:53.28 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r569 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-goldspam update |
| 18:53.48 | Primer | dammit, there's some javashit that's running on this page that's causing the video to stall |
| 18:53.57 | Primer | disabled javascript, and the video stalled...crap |
| 18:57.36 | Primer | ouch |
| 18:57.45 | Primer | that had to hurt |
| 18:59.50 | nevcairiel | players are sissys, always crying on the ground, and once the ref loses interest, they get up and starting running like nothing happend |
| 18:59.57 | Repo | 10gridstatuspriestaoe: 03slaren 04v0.93 * r27 : Tagging as v0.93 |
| 19:00.07 | Primer | naw, that hit looked legit |
| 19:00.59 | GER|koaschten | that hit deserved a yellow |
| 19:01.11 | GER|koaschten | he stood on podolski'S foot for a whole second |
| 19:01.21 | asmodai | Sulfuron Spire -- oh hello Sauron |
| 19:01.43 | Pneumatus | beta needs more levelling content :< |
| 19:01.52 | GER|koaschten | beta needs to hand out more keys |
| 19:01.54 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Schwalbes suck |
| 19:01.56 | nevcairiel | i need more beta |
| 19:01.59 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: to me! |
| 19:02.05 | vithos | is 0-80 getting nerfed? |
| 19:02.16 | asmodai | Only for Fisker |
| 19:02.16 | Adirelle | @project blizzbug |
| 19:02.17 | Repo | Adirelle: No project found that matches 'blizzbug' |
| 19:02.20 | Adirelle | @project blizz |
| 19:02.21 | Repo | Adirelle: No project found that matches 'blizz' |
| 19:02.25 | Adirelle | @project *blizz* |
| 19:02.26 | Repo | Adirelle: No project found that matches '*blizz*' |
| 19:02.31 | asmodai | BlizBugsSuck |
| 19:02.34 | asmodai | IIRC |
| 19:02.36 | durcyn | nevcairiel: some of the refs have been at least yelling at the players to get their asses off the ground lately though |
| 19:02.37 | Adirelle | aaah, only one Z |
| 19:02.43 | Primer | I thought it was blizzsucks |
| 19:02.48 | Primer | @project blizzsucks |
| 19:02.49 | Repo | Primer: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blizzbugssuck/. BlizzBugsSuck. Game: WoW. Shefki (Manager/Author), Torhal (Author), Xinhuan (Author), yssaril (Author). Updated: 8 hours ago |
| 19:02.53 | asmodai | Cairenn wanted it renamed ;) |
| 19:02.59 | Primer | ahh |
| 19:03.14 | Primer | yeah, it seemed rather inflammatory |
| 19:05.01 | asmodai | Nah. |
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| 19:06.09 | ben | Someone blocking whispers to oneself strikes me as the wrong way to go about addons finding out realid names |
| 19:06.18 | asmodai | rofl, "there's nothing special here, except for this Stargate" |
| 19:06.32 | ben | err, blocking |
| 19:07.34 | Primer | fucking |
| 19:07.44 | groktar | i love what they're doing with talent changes |
| 19:09.00 | vithos | what are you referring to ben? |
| 19:09.45 | asmodai | vithos: most likely one of the latest commits to BlizzBugsSuck |
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| 19:11.12 | pentium166 | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816898018&sid=1 "Addons can share Full Name without RealID" |
| 19:12.28 | Shefki | pentium166: Already have a workaround for that in BlizzBugsSuck |
| 19:12.37 | Shefki | @project wow/BlizzBugsSuck |
| 19:12.38 | Repo | Shefki: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blizzbugssuck/. BlizzBugsSuck. Game: WoW. Shefki (Manager/Author), Torhal (Author), Xinhuan (Author), yssaril (Author). Updated: 8 hours ago |
| 19:14.00 | Shefki | pentium166: And details here now that the forums aren't failing again: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626350209&sid=1 |
| 19:15.39 | vithos | i see. |
| 19:17.25 | asmodai | Yeez |
| 19:17.28 | asmodai | boring game so far |
| 19:17.30 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 19:20.01 | GER|koaschten | http://realidiots.net/ -> i am amused the url wasnt taken yet |
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| 19:59.21 | Primer | GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlllll |
| 19:59.24 | Primer | GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlllll |
| 19:59.28 | Primer | GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlllll |
| 19:59.39 | Primer | !Viva España! |
| 19:59.40 | Primer | !Viva España! |
| 19:59.49 | nevcairiel | somehow i think primar is from spain |
| 19:59.57 | Primer | no, I'm actually Brazilian |
| 20:00.14 | nevcairiel | then you already lost |
| 20:00.31 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 20:00.40 | nevcairiel | paul was right |
| 20:00.45 | Primer | I can still cheer for a team |
| 20:01.33 | Primer | I'm actually a dual citizen of the USA and Brazil |
| 20:01.37 | Primer | so I cheered for both |
| 20:02.26 | Primer | heritage-wise, I'm actually more than half German...but my heart is with Brazil, and I don't want to see Germany winning a 4th |
| 20:02.32 | Primer | hence, España |
| 20:03.17 | nevcairiel | At this point i dont care if they win, although losing would let me sleep in silence |
| 20:03.20 | nevcairiel | so thats a bonus |
| 20:09.50 | Shefki | Well this might explain the real names on the forum thing: http://watchingthewatchers.org/indepth/1365085/korean-law-driving-policy-blizzard |
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| 20:12.00 | nevcairiel | yeah i saw that |
| 20:12.16 | nevcairiel | but could just allow an alias for non-koreans and be done with it |
| 20:12.44 | nevcairiel | thats a silly law, btw |
| 20:14.34 | Ackis | or just not let those crazy koreans play wow! |
| 20:14.46 | Shefki | Ackis: Starcraft? |
| 20:14.55 | Ackis | derp |
| 20:14.57 | Shefki | Note that the change is starting with the SCII forums. |
| 20:14.57 | nevcairiel | silly koreans don't do anything but play starcraft all day |
| 20:14.58 | Ackis | what's GDKP btw? |
| 20:15.03 | nevcairiel | Gold DKP |
| 20:15.07 | nevcairiel | pay gold for items |
| 20:15.11 | nevcairiel | gold shared among raiders |
| 20:15.15 | Primer | we call those GKP on my realm |
| 20:15.32 | Ackis | is that when a guild takes 5 people to buy items? |
| 20:15.38 | Ackis | or something different? |
| 20:15.47 | Primer | no |
| 20:15.50 | Primer | usually pugs |
| 20:15.51 | Ac-town | kinda yeah |
| 20:15.55 | nevcairiel | its usually a pug |
| 20:15.58 | Ackis | derp Xinhuan is explaining it on wowuidev |
| 20:15.58 | nevcairiel | with some core of people |
| 20:16.06 | Primer | one dude leads, you trade gold for the item. The gold is then split at the end |
| 20:16.15 | Ac-town | item goes to the highest bidder |
| 20:16.23 | Primer | last one I went to netted me 2.4k...6/12 in ICC 25 |
| 20:16.34 | Ackis | sounds lame =/ |
| 20:16.38 | Primer | why? |
| 20:16.45 | Primer | undergeared people with gold get loot |
| 20:16.48 | kagaro | Primer: i got paid 5k to unlock heroics for a 10 man |
| 20:16.51 | Primer | well geared people get gold |
| 20:17.02 | Primer | kagaro: I paid 15k to unlock heroics in 25 |
| 20:17.09 | kagaro | wow |
| 20:17.10 | Ackis | achievements? |
| 20:17.16 | Primer | eh? |
| 20:17.17 | Ac-town | wow indeed |
| 20:17.23 | Primer | I could care less about achievements |
| 20:17.27 | kagaro | Ackis: nope just to be in the run to turn on heroics for queen and gunship |
| 20:17.36 | Ackis | ah |
| 20:17.44 | Ackis | I didn't know you needed to unlock them |
| 20:17.47 | Primer | I just wanted my guild, who hasn't downed LK yet, to have a chance to get 277 gear from easier 25 man heroics |
| 20:17.50 | Ackis | has never stepped inside of ICC |
| 20:17.54 | Xinhuan | got the gist ackis? |
| 20:17.59 | Xinhuan | its really great |
| 20:18.02 | Ackis | Xinhuan: yeah thanks |
| 20:18.05 | kagaro | i need 4 more + heroic putricide and sindy to get my drake |
| 20:18.08 | Xinhuan | with 3 chars you can earn about 18k per week |
| 20:18.20 | Xinhuan | and in a month, about 70k |
| 20:18.26 | Xinhuan | if you don't buy items |
| 20:18.29 | Ac-town | kagaro: 10 man? |
| 20:18.33 | Xinhuan | you earn more if you buy cheap boes and resell AH |
| 20:18.36 | kagaro | ya on 10 man |
| 20:18.46 | nevcairiel | i rather spend the time watching porn or something, rather then running icc25 three times |
| 20:18.50 | Primer | I've seen ICC 25 GKPs gross over 200k |
| 20:18.50 | kagaro | i cant get enough on to kill lk in 25 man |
| 20:19.05 | Xinhuan | the ones i go to need 2 chars to hold the pot |
| 20:19.12 | Primer | yeah |
| 20:19.13 | kagaro | people been seeing blues in cata and stopped raiding |
| 20:19.23 | Xinhuan | and LK25 usually generates less gold than most other bosses |
| 20:19.25 | steev | they really need to ratelimit the local defense shit |
| 20:19.33 | Xinhuan | because the 271 weapons are inferior |
| 20:19.40 | Xinhuan | to 277 earlier heroic ones |
| 20:19.49 | steev | i don't care that crossroads is under attack, even less so every .2 seconds finding out it is |
| 20:20.02 | Primer | GAME OVER!!!!!! |
| 20:20.02 | kagaro | steev , leave the local defense channel |
| 20:20.04 | Aeyan | Spain wins, nevcairiel can sleep. |
| 20:20.07 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 20:20.09 | Primer | !Viva España! |
| 20:20.18 | steev | kagaro: but i want to know, i just don't want to know every .2 seconds |
| 20:20.21 | kagaro | time to go swap in new raid drives |
| 20:20.27 | Xinhuan | as to why its called Gold dkp, its basically treating your Gold as your dkp |
| 20:20.29 | kagaro | my replacements just showed up |
| 20:20.36 | Primer | kagaro: my addon is using LibMapData, btw |
| 20:20.43 | Xinhuan | and the gold pot split is essentially zero sum system |
| 20:20.48 | kagaro | Xinhuan: I should start doing those i dont need anything except for heroic 25 man |
| 20:20.51 | Primer | I'll actually use the distance and bearing parts too |
| 20:21.01 | kagaro | Primer: which one? |
| 20:21.06 | Primer | DirectionArrow |
| 20:21.08 | Xinhuan | hence gdkp - your gold is your dkp |
| 20:21.11 | kagaro | ahh |
| 20:21.13 | kagaro | cool |
| 20:21.23 | nevcairiel | hah koaschten |
| 20:21.46 | nevcairiel | no tag anymore, eh |
| 20:22.05 | kagaro | before cata launges im gone rework gathermate to use the aeraid instead of arbitrary numbers |
| 20:22.34 | kagaro | s/launges/launches/ |
| 20:22.44 | kagaro | s/aeraid/areaid/ |
| 20:22.47 | nevcairiel | make sure to write a conversion script so people dont lose their data |
| 20:22.56 | kagaro | yeah nev gm database already versioned |
| 20:23.25 | kagaro | i need to add a convertor in gathermate, then also change the scraper script to use the areaid |
| 20:24.01 | kagaro | just havent had time to do it, as well as no rush till cata when new zones and stuff go in |
| 20:24.09 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:24.26 | kagaro | Xinhuan: does archelogy work like trasure finding? i.e. a dot on the minimap |
| 20:24.38 | Xinhuan | archeology is removed |
| 20:24.50 | Xinhuan | instead they are adding medium glyphs |
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| 20:24.59 | kagaro | I thought it was still in |
| 20:24.59 | nevcairiel | you got things mixed up |
| 20:25.02 | nevcairiel | thats titans path |
| 20:25.07 | nevcairiel | or whatever it was called |
| 20:25.19 | Xinhuan | oh yeah |
| 20:25.24 | Xinhuan | so i did |
| 20:25.45 | kagaro | for cata ill add support for gathering in instances if that how archeology works |
| 20:25.47 | Xinhuan | as for arch, it doesn't exist on the beta |
| 20:25.49 | Xinhuan | yet |
| 20:25.50 | kagaro | gotcha |
| 20:26.14 | kagaro | ill assume for now the rest still works the same |
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| 20:26.27 | nevcairiel | now that we have instance maps and coordinates, that'll be entirely possible |
| 20:26.28 | kagaro | also any wowhead guys on here? |
| 20:26.30 | Xinhuan | you're just doing premature coding |
| 20:26.31 | nevcairiel | just need to figure out levels |
| 20:26.47 | kagaro | Xinhuan: I havent coded anything yet |
| 20:27.06 | Xinhuan | the worrying thing i keep thinking about is how phasing will affect gathermate |
| 20:27.07 | kagaro | wowhead is gona go reset its db for cata isnt it? |
| 20:27.14 | Xinhuan | plant exists in phase 1 but not phase 2 |
| 20:27.24 | Xinhuan | especially with receeding coast lines |
| 20:27.25 | Xinhuan | for example |
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| 20:27.43 | kagaro | dont think there is any way to figure out your phase is there |
| 20:28.00 | nevcairiel | at least in wotlk, the plant existed in all phases |
| 20:28.10 | nevcairiel | but then the general layout of a zone didnt change with phasing |
| 20:28.10 | kagaro | and i didnt think they were gona make it phased based for the world |
| 20:28.24 | Xinhuan | they are |
| 20:28.33 | Xinhuan | terrain can phase in cata |
| 20:28.33 | kagaro | so non cata clients see the old world? or just low level guys |
| 20:28.43 | Xinhuan | all clients will be cata |
| 20:28.49 | Xinhuan | there isn't a non-cata client |
| 20:29.09 | Xinhuan | its only that without cata purchased, you can't level past 80 |
| 20:29.14 | Xinhuan | and hence can't harvest higher lvl plants |
| 20:29.38 | Xinhuan | so everyoen starts in "phase 1" |
| 20:29.40 | Xinhuan | so to speak |
| 20:30.04 | kagaro | at a certain level it switches phases then? |
| 20:30.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 20:30.11 | Xinhuan | u complete quests |
| 20:30.15 | Xinhuan | exactly like in icecrown |
| 20:30.17 | kagaro | so like icc |
| 20:30.19 | kagaro | ya |
| 20:30.28 | Xinhuan | except terrain changes are BIG |
| 20:30.31 | Xinhuan | this time |
| 20:30.43 | Xinhuan | with phasing |
| 20:30.49 | kagaro | well guess auto harvesting data is gona be bad then |
| 20:31.04 | kagaro | cause youll see data from wrong phases |
| 20:31.12 | Xinhuan | since all current/old data are going to be obsolete |
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| 20:31.44 | Xinhuan | might be a good time to rewrite the core |
| 20:31.50 | kagaro | very true |
| 20:32.02 | Xinhuan | but have to see how it works out first |
| 20:32.19 | kagaro | assuming a list of quests if marked completed you know the phase and could remove /hide them based on phase |
| 20:32.43 | Xinhuan | don't need a list i think |
| 20:32.54 | Xinhuan | its always one specific quest |
| 20:33.02 | kagaro | for every zone? |
| 20:33.14 | kagaro | or is it zone based phasing by quest in that zone? |
| 20:33.15 | Xinhuan | more like subzomes |
| 20:33.30 | Xinhuan | when you did icc |
| 20:33.41 | Xinhuan | completing a certain keyquest advanced your phase |
| 20:33.56 | kagaro | yeah but would need to know which quest it was for that zone |
| 20:33.57 | Xinhuan | but you can only complete that keyquest by completing all its prerequisites |
| 20:34.11 | kagaro | like dragonblight |
| 20:34.48 | Xinhuan | wowhead's data scraper will need updates for this anyhow |
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| 20:46.25 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I love how the German defense was standing and looking how Spain scored that goal |
| 20:46.35 | nevcairiel | i didnt pay attention |
| 20:46.55 | asmodai | You didn't miss much :S |
| 20:46.59 | Stanzilla | they were standing all the time |
| 20:47.08 | asmodai | Stanzilla: yeah -- very static |
| 20:47.09 | nevcairiel | from what i saw, spain deserved to win |
| 20:47.18 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 20:48.41 | krka | spain played better today, a very solid defense |
| 20:49.11 | asmodai | aye, indeed |
| 20:49.25 | asmodai | but |
| 20:49.27 | asmodai | THE SQUID WAS RIGHT!!!!11!!!one!!one |
| 20:49.48 | nevcairiel | indeed he was |
| 20:49.59 | nevcairiel | too bad he only predicts our games |
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| 21:09.12 | steev | druid healing sucks at 16 |
| 21:09.23 | steev | 3 heals and i'm over 2/3rds mana gone |
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| 21:22.43 | Hirsute | So, am I just missing something, or am I not able to adjust the scale of the stance bar in bt4? |
| 21:26.07 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 04v500 * bfac692 /: [new tag] Tagging as v500 |
| 21:27.00 | zoktar | ehm anyone feel like making a quick fix to a small addon called Guild Blacklist that has been abandoned, "worked in 3.3.3" http://pastebin.com/YNkBgar6 |
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| 21:33.25 | mojosdojo | FUCKING |
| 21:33.58 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 21:34.10 | mojosdojo | yeah |
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| 21:38.30 | Repo | 10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.4.1-beta-16-g07f4d53 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+11 commits] (7 truncated) |
| 21:38.32 | Repo | 07f4d53: remove old config-code |
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| 22:34.34 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r40 Broker_LFD.lua: Removed extra function call |
| 22:34.49 | Martag | Hmm? |
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| 22:39.21 | Morwrath | Anyone know how I affiliate my hostmask, or hide my hostmask thats displayed in my /whois? |
| 22:40.14 | Primer | use tor |
| 22:40.28 | Ac-town | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks |
| 22:40.30 | Primer | or get the freeload people to add that thingy |
| 22:40.35 | Primer | yeah, cloak |
| 22:40.40 | Ac-town | dont use tor with irc |
| 22:40.42 | Morwrath | Primer: ha, thanks though :P |
| 22:40.46 | Ac-town | tor is really a bad idea |
| 22:40.47 | Morwrath | Thanks Ac-town |
| 22:40.58 | Ac-town | its only good for getting around firewalls for normal web browsing |
| 22:44.20 | kagaro | anyone got a fix for teh combat log, when it stops working? |
| 22:44.28 | Morwrath | how cool do you have to be to get a wowuidev tag? ;p |
| 22:44.54 | Cyprias | kagaro: /script CombatLogClearEntries() |
| 22:45.13 | kagaro | ty |
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| 22:46.00 | Primer | So who is the wowdevui project manager? |
| 22:46.04 | Primer | for freeload |
| 22:46.31 | Morwrath | This a trick question? |
| 22:47.49 | Ac-town | freenode? |
| 22:48.10 | Primer | no |
| 22:48.11 | Ac-town | maybe the person who owns the channel |
| 22:48.20 | Ac-town | oh |
| 22:48.27 | Primer | Regardless of which type of cloak you decide to get, the setup is the same. |
| 22:48.27 | Primer | Just read this link, which explains the procedure. Be sure to check off all the steps and make sure they're done. Then: |
| 22:48.33 | Primer | If you'd like a project cloak, contact your project leader to set it up. |
| 22:48.40 | Ac-town | yeah |
| 22:48.44 | Ac-town | you said freeload |
| 22:48.46 | Ac-town | lol |
| 22:48.53 | Primer | yes |
| 22:49.00 | Primer | from the days of donation spam |
| 22:49.08 | Primer | it's a term I've used for a long time |
| 22:49.11 | Ac-town | ah |
| 22:49.18 | Ac-town | well hosting server is not free :) |
| 22:51.45 | Primer | yes, it is |
| 22:52.00 | Primer | especially when people volunteer to run an ircd |
| 22:52.09 | Ac-town | true |
| 22:52.19 | Ac-town | but someone needs to pay for the network and the power to run it |
| 22:52.36 | Primer | yes, the person who's volunteering their server |
| 22:52.50 | Ac-town | not many people give their server |
| 22:52.57 | Ac-town | most of them are hosted by freenode |
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| 22:54.00 | Ac-town | and they use the money for other things also |
| 22:54.58 | Primer | yes, they're a non-profit |
| 22:56.06 | Primer | guessing you weren't on back in the day when Lilo would spam global announce asking for donations? |
| 22:56.21 | Ac-town | I have been around since 03 |
| 22:56.27 | Primer | then you do remember |
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