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00:00.23 | Iblise | @vhaarr i have those logs for RS if you still want them |
00:01.04 | Iblise | And I'm having a huge issue with prat, my edit box randomly vanishes and doesn't come back until I click on the chat window. I'm typing blind a lot of the time |
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00:34.25 | Iblise | Any suggestion for my prat issue heh |
00:36.06 | Hirsute | What was your prat issue? |
00:36.54 | Iblise | My edit box doesn't appear when typing someone |
00:37.14 | Iblise | Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't and I find myself typing blind |
00:37.36 | Wobin | close your eyes? |
00:37.40 | Iblise | If I click on the chat window and then retry to open the editbox (press enter) it comes back |
00:37.52 | Wobin | any other chat addons loaded? |
00:37.53 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. No idea. I've not had that problem. |
00:38.17 | Iblise | Just prat for chat addons |
00:39.07 | Iblise | I can't figure out what causes it, just that it has a high up time and its really starting to frustrate me |
00:39.30 | Iblise | And bug sack isn't grabbing any errors either |
00:39.40 | Iblise | So I'm rather clueless |
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01:07.00 | steevdave | Iblise: is it switching to a whisper window? or combat log |
01:07.06 | steevdave | or only on the general tab? |
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01:48.14 | Iblise | @steevedave - sorry for taking so long |
01:48.29 | Iblise | No switching just don't make the edit box visible on open |
01:48.45 | Iblise | It is open but I can't see anything that is typed in it or the edit box |
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02:05.15 | steevdave | ahh |
02:05.52 | steevdave | anyone know wtf is causing me to see "Trial accounts cannot send unlimited tells, you must wait before you can send tells to more players." in battlegrounds? Specially since I'm not talking to anyone |
02:08.50 | Wobin | perhaps an addon |
02:08.52 | Wobin | that uses whispers |
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02:35.55 | steevdave | ugh |
02:36.00 | steevdave | horde are so bad on proudmoore |
02:44.52 | Wobin | =( |
02:45.04 | Wobin | from a pvp perspective? |
02:55.39 | Repo | 10lkannounce (experimental): 03Mirrormn * r3 LKAnnounce.lua: Fixed the Help button on the Assignments tabs. |
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03:15.11 | Repo | bb418ee: fix the fix :P |
03:21.19 | Shefki | fix the fix of the fix of the workaround of the hack of the century. |
03:26.02 | Repo | 10bettersocialtooltip: 03jebus905 * r3 .pkgmeta: Adding Libraries |
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03:49.44 | Repo | 2482c0f: Halion (11): Ticket #161 - Use SPELL_AURA_APPLIED for debuffs |
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03:53.40 | Shefki | Ohh I bet I forgot to put overwrite in. |
03:53.46 | Shefki | t |
03:53.47 | Shefki | mt |
04:00.29 | steevdave | yes Wobin, pvp in wsg is horrendous (10-19 bracket) |
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04:48.38 | Repo | -- Added an optional Minimap button that gives access to the message window and MassMailer options |
04:48.39 | Repo | -- Locale updates |
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08:37.56 | sylvanaar | guten morgen |
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08:42.20 | asmodai | goedemorgen sylvanaar |
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09:00.34 | sylvanaar | whats new |
09:00.59 | sylvanaar | i finally figured out how to download itunes on my mac - dont use safari |
09:03.23 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/k1q3C.jpg |
09:03.33 | asmodai | sylvanaar: eh? Why couldn't you download otherwise? |
09:09.22 | sylvanaar | there was no button |
09:09.29 | sylvanaar | safari is messed up |
09:09.33 | asmodai | :| |
09:09.39 | sylvanaar | isnt that ironic |
09:09.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2722 / (19 files in 10 directories): another huge constants cleanup |
09:10.02 | sylvanaar | only reason i needed to download though was because i had the 9.1 beta |
09:10.08 | sylvanaar | and it expired |
09:10.25 | sylvanaar | er 9.2 |
09:11.41 | asmodai | ah |
09:12.57 | sylvanaar | i think since it comes preinstalled most people dont need to download it |
09:15.04 | sylvanaar | im anxious for the iPad 4.0 beta |
09:15.25 | sylvanaar | hope that is soon |
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09:23.58 | asmodai | cranks the volume to 11 in the office on Killing in the Name |
09:25.29 | Megalon | because 11 IS louder! |
09:36.47 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r18 / (10 files in 3 directories): |
09:36.49 | Repo | Widgets "ListBox" and "ComboBox" has been rewritten for efficiency. |
09:36.50 | Repo | Now they can support millions of items and their searching without obvious FPS loss. |
09:37.45 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r19 Widgets/Image.lua: minor changes |
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09:53.34 | GER|koaschten | hmmm cata beta in dx11 |
09:53.36 | GER|koaschten | nifty |
10:00.06 | sbu | eh |
10:00.21 | Kalroth | dx11 water, dx6 the rest |
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10:01.48 | Arrowmaster | does that mean it wont run on XP anymore? |
10:04.11 | Slaren | wow has always had switchable renderers |
10:04.27 | Slaren | they need to keep opengl for macs anyway |
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11:05.56 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNEpSaqsFE0#t=03m5s |
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11:55.41 | harl | hallo |
11:57.43 | asmodai | heya harl |
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12:16.39 | snk-32 | 'ello there |
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12:17.22 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-12 * 7c0c372 /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.0-beta-12". |
12:18.13 | Silei | anyone around who knows their way around custom actionbars and has a minute to help me out with a problem i'm having? :) |
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12:19.43 | Silei | specifically, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626458722&postId=256239737726&sid=1#0 - i just can't get the damn thing to update correctly :( |
12:34.32 | Repo | 10yata: 03kaytikat * r76 / (9 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
12:34.34 | Repo | Fixed for 3.5 |
12:34.35 | Repo | Added preliminary Call of xxxx spell support |
12:34.37 | Repo | Fixed numerous outstanding issues |
12:34.38 | Repo | Changed totem listing routine to use built in Blizzard commands instead of LibGratuity and spellbook scraping |
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12:53.29 | Repo | 10yata: 03kaytikat 04wotlk-beta-0.76 * r77 : Tagging for beta |
12:53.44 | kagaro | ~seen mangeg |
12:53.47 | purl | kagaro: i haven't seen 'mangeg' |
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12:54.37 | asmodai | hey kagaro |
12:58.01 | kagaro | yo brb |
13:04.03 | kagaro | ok asmodai what up |
13:07.05 | asmodai | Nothing much mate |
13:07.08 | asmodai | at owkr, last 2 hours |
13:08.03 | kagaro | ahh, i just started |
13:08.08 | kagaro | started late this morning |
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13:19.06 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-8-g85675c3 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Updated Highlight module to check BN_WHSIPER BN_CONVERSATION |
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13:22.10 | asmodai | kagaro: it happens :) |
13:22.43 | kagaro | well i bought the wrong icecream last night and didnt realize it till after i got home. forgot to get the lactose free stuff .. |
13:23.00 | kagaro | but i ate it anyways |
13:23.07 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1 <-- rofl at comment at 07:15 |
13:25.17 | kagaro | lol rapier |
13:27.50 | GER|koaschten | thats |
13:27.52 | GER|koaschten | stupid Kaelten |
13:28.01 | kagaro | anyone have transcriptor logs for halion handy? |
13:28.02 | Axodious | is there a website where i can compare various achievements of guild members without having to open each toon in wowarmory? |
13:28.13 | Axodious | like out of the entire guild who is missing x achievement |
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13:32.36 | Kalroth | Axodious: like wow achievements? |
13:32.54 | Axodious | just found that site on google, checking it out now |
13:33.48 | Axodious | other than it can't find my guild :( |
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13:34.42 | Axodious | is there a way to add a guild to this thing? |
13:35.38 | Axodious | nah doesn't look like what i'm looking for |
13:36.37 | Wobin | oh dear, it's Mary Poppins =P |
13:36.44 | Silei | ^^ |
13:37.19 | Axodious | maybe even a mod for it |
13:37.43 | Axodious | just trying to find a way to make it easier to set up a group for meta achievements ~_~ |
13:39.04 | GER|koaschten | Axodious what are you trying to compare? |
13:39.06 | GER|koaschten | aah ok |
13:39.13 | Wobin | oh god |
13:39.16 | Wobin | the accent is -terrible- |
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13:39.24 | Silei | if i design me a bar with "SecureHandlerStateTemplate" and add a bunch of childframe buttons ("ActionBarButtonTemplate") that inherit their page attribute from the parent, which in turn is changed based on [bar:2], [bonusbar:2] and all that jazz....how on earth do i force a (working) update on the buttons after the bar gets a new page? seems like the buttons always update right before the bar itself does and then not until the next page-chan |
13:40.11 | asmodai | Wobin: :D |
13:40.18 | asmodai | Wobin: yeah, he has right to complain |
13:41.26 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
13:41.28 | Repo | Added a statusbar to the combobox to show the searching progress |
13:41.32 | asmodai | Axodious: maybe http://www.wowprogress.com/ ? |
13:42.53 | asmodai | or maybe http://wow.guildprogress.com/ |
13:44.37 | Axodious | don't think so asmodai :( |
13:44.53 | Axodious | it's weird thought there would have been an addon or site for it |
13:44.55 | Axodious | gues not |
13:44.57 | asmodai | You want to see all achievements and not raid specific ones? |
13:44.57 | Axodious | guess * |
13:45.09 | Axodious | well right now specifically |
13:45.23 | Axodious | trying to setup a 10 man guild to get their icc drakes |
13:47.02 | Axodious | so i'm trying to compare everyones achievements for the meta |
13:47.42 | asmodai | wow-achievements seems a bit broken in some way |
13:47.44 | asmodai | http://www.wow-achievements.com/player/EU/Stormrage/Dionise |
13:47.56 | asmodai | not in that guild anymore, nor do I have 0/X ;) |
13:48.12 | Axodious | lol |
13:48.25 | Axodious | meh i guess i'll setup a forum for it ~_~ |
13:48.27 | pentium166 | make everyone fill out a google spreadsheet |
13:48.45 | Axodious | well i've been debating putting a forum for our guild cause we're pretty small |
13:48.55 | pentium166 | assuming you can make publicly editable spreadsheets there |
13:48.55 | Axodious | but it does have it's benefits regardless |
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13:50.18 | asmodai | docs.google.com |
13:50.20 | asmodai | ^^ |
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13:52.02 | asmodai | "Aaaand a guy in a fancy hat." |
13:53.46 | asmodai | Wobin: "You're able to give feedback on each quest in the beta. I'd probably go back there and say 'hey, could you please stop your voice actress from sounding terrible and breaking my immersion'." |
13:53.50 | Wobin | "I want one of those hats.. apparently you can get one" |
13:54.22 | asmodai | "Why is that king so cheerful all of a sudden? Everyone's dead or dying or getting eviscerated or turning into werewolves. Not the best day at the job. |
13:54.25 | asmodai | " |
13:57.15 | Wobin | that's actually quite well done |
13:57.20 | Wobin | I'm very impressed at the starting area |
13:57.29 | Wobin | they now need to fix every other one to be like that |
13:59.11 | asmodai | Wobin: *nods* |
14:00.50 | Wobin | he has a very good voice for radio |
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14:03.22 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1#t=19m20s |
14:03.33 | asmodai | interesting change in vehicle UI |
14:03.58 | asmodai | That will screw up nevcairiel a bit I think |
14:04.01 | asmodai | for bartender |
14:04.25 | steev | kagaro: would it be possible to check if an addon like WIM is enabled/in use and not autopopup the whisper window in chat? (or is that something that wim should block?) - i ask because wim has a setting to block the whisper from appearing in chat by default, but the window is still happening, and basically the chat "disappears" because the whisper window is blank |
14:05.36 | steev | i want a worgen :( |
14:06.02 | kagaro | if they are using WIM they can always just disable the auto whisper windows |
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14:06.12 | kagaro | its a config option |
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14:06.23 | steev | kagaro: mmmm, maybe my copy of wim is just too old then :) |
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14:06.41 | kagaro | no i meant in chatter it has an option to turn off auto whisper windows |
14:06.50 | steev | oh |
14:06.57 | steev | okay ill have to do that when i get home |
14:07.28 | kagaro | I had set that to default disabled but wasnt working for some reason |
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14:08.50 | kagaro | ohh i see why, my bad had wrong name in the defaults |
14:09.25 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-9-gbe307a2 Modules/AutoPopup.lua: [+1 commit] Set the right name so by default auto popout are disabled. |
14:09.36 | harl | why does my combat log's chat frame tab get highlighted again and again.. it's annoying me |
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14:10.35 | steev | harl: stop going into combat, problem solved |
14:12.15 | kagaro | its only supposed to alert flash for whisper or bn_whisper |
14:16.07 | harl | haven't received any kind of whispers today :/ |
14:16.21 | kagaro | thats blizz code setting the tabs to flash |
14:19.20 | kagaro | hey vhaarr you got any transcriptor logs for Halion? |
14:26.35 | Mikk | asmodai: i'm missing something, apparently.. how is that vehicle UI different from now? |
14:29.13 | Silei | the giant flashy "DO THIS NAU!" button in the center of the screen i guess |
14:29.19 | Silei | at least that's the only difference i can spot |
14:32.37 | Mikk | but that's not part of the vehicle ui |
14:32.40 | asmodai | isn't that entire framework around it bigger than we had in wrath? |
14:32.42 | Mikk | that's just their message frame |
14:32.54 | Mikk | noo? |
14:32.55 | Mikk | same |
14:33.10 | Mikk | it's fricking huge :P |
14:36.29 | asmodai | it's huge indeed |
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14:41.42 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r509 modules/Editbox.lua: |
14:41.44 | Repo | since the useAltKey option was broken forever, people expect the default option to be off, so change it to that. |
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16:07.52 | Elkano | rape time, Fisker is back... |
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16:15.40 | Zyn | aaaw |
16:15.44 | Zyn | puts away the monocle |
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16:25.20 | steev | wtb cata invite pst |
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16:39.07 | sylvanaar | me too |
16:39.19 | GER|koaschten | WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DOES BLIZZARD THINK THEY ARE DOING?! |
16:39.23 | GER|koaschten | woah oops caps |
16:40.01 | GER|koaschten | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1 |
16:40.13 | durcyn | they're killing trolls |
16:40.14 | GER|koaschten | The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. |
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16:41.21 | steev | woot |
16:41.26 | steev | no more asshattery |
16:41.41 | durcyn | if you think that's going to stop asshattery, you're sorely mistaken. |
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16:42.09 | Primer | One thing I don't get...isn't the Real ID...their login? |
16:42.17 | Primer | well, at least half of it? |
16:42.25 | Primer | meaning, all you'd need is their password? |
16:42.36 | Primer | to access their account? |
16:42.55 | Megalon | there is a difference between your reallife name and your email you login with |
16:43.03 | nevcairiel | realid is your real name |
16:43.06 | nevcairiel | not the "id" |
16:43.20 | sbu | also you need your authenticator code :p |
16:43.24 | Megalon | I think they refer with "Real ID" the whole bnet login system |
16:43.34 | Primer | Authenticator is for noobs |
16:43.51 | nevcairiel | I always laugh at people that say that and get their account stolen a week later |
16:44.16 | Primer | I always laugh at people that get their account stolen from doing stupid shit |
16:44.52 | nevcairiel | Also, its free and gets me an additional pet |
16:44.53 | sbu | pr0n is no stupid shit :( |
16:45.01 | sbu | yaa, what nevcairiel said |
16:45.10 | durcyn | you mean i shouldn't give the same username and password to every porn site in all of kazahkstan? |
16:45.22 | durcyn | er, same as wow, rather. feh. |
16:45.32 | marshen | i love blizzard so much... not that they forbid us to post on us forums now they force us to even not post on eu forums... |
16:46.06 | durcyn | anyway, just wait for the inevitable lawsuit, that probably violates several privacy statutes |
16:46.17 | nevcairiel | I don't think so |
16:46.36 | nevcairiel | they don't even have to provide a forum, and as long as old posts dont suddenly show realnames |
16:46.42 | durcyn | sneaky bastards probably put it in a TOU update months ago though |
16:47.13 | nevcairiel | You know that your name shows when you post, so if you post, its your choice. I don't see that violating privacy |
16:47.25 | marshen | the last game company that ive trusted is gone... lets party :/ |
16:50.09 | durcyn | marshen: Valve? |
16:50.17 | nevcairiel | Also, i'm surprised that in the days of twitter and failbook anyone would object to this =P |
16:50.44 | durcyn | i don't use my real name on twitter, and my facebook account has zero information. |
16:51.03 | nevcairiel | Your name on some forum doesn't hold much information either |
16:51.17 | nevcairiel | You just can't blindly troll anymore =) |
16:51.23 | durcyn | never did. |
16:51.25 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Easy - I also am concious what I post or not post on facebook and/or twitter and/or $RANDOM_SOCIAL_NETWORK_I_MIGHT_BE_ON |
16:51.49 | Ackis | PRINT $RANDOM_SOCIAL_NETWORK_I_MIGHT_BE_ON |
16:51.57 | asmodai | Ackis: Hyves :( |
16:52.00 | nevcairiel | So if you are concious what you post on the forums, it'll be better! |
16:52.09 | Ackis | lol |
16:52.24 | asmodai | It raises an additional hurdle for both trolling and constructive posting. |
16:52.54 | nevcairiel | An argument being that you can't troll anymore .. is trolling in itself and can just be dismissed |
16:53.15 | asmodai | I wonder how many celebrities will now quit WoW. |
16:53.20 | Megalon | you can't troll because there is some random realname? |
16:53.22 | steev | privacy is privacy, whether you have something to hide or not. |
16:53.28 | asmodai | Since effectively they have no cover anymore. |
16:53.38 | nevcairiel | Just don't post on teh forums :) |
16:53.52 | nevcairiel | Its not like you have a badge with your realname attached to your char |
16:53.54 | steev | asmodai: they would have to post on the forums too though |
16:54.05 | asmodai | steev: I'm sure there's going to be some leak at some point. |
16:54.10 | asmodai | All social networks go through that. |
16:54.22 | asmodai | And it's not like Blizzard's security record is spot clean :P |
16:54.29 | steev | any celebrity who can't afford the 6.95 for an authenticator... |
16:54.36 | nevcairiel | Its not a social network, all they change is the field thats being printed in the forums |
16:54.49 | steev | nevcairiel: the issue is they are trying to make it one |
16:55.05 | nevcairiel | By using real names? I don't see the social or network part yet =P |
16:55.05 | asmodai | If you introduce FoaF, it's a social network in my book. |
16:55.26 | nevcairiel | And i thought we were talking about the forums change |
16:55.28 | steev | asmodai: thats gonna be the new sig, dont' you know |
16:55.59 | asmodai | nevcairiel: That's part of the entire RealID system, no? |
16:56.00 | Torhal | asmodai: Your Spiced Chili Crab problem is gone. |
16:56.02 | steev | blah: friend's with one, two, three, four, <clicky link "friend them now"> |
16:56.23 | asmodai | Torhal: Words cannot express how grateful I am. Here, have this rubber chicken. |
16:56.46 | Torhal | bonks Ackis on the head with the rubber chicken. |
16:56.53 | nevcairiel | The realid system already exists, but suddenly people seem to blame the forum change for all its evil :p |
16:56.56 | asmodai | It even has a pulley in the middle. |
16:57.16 | jnwhiteh | well as it stands its not public |
16:57.21 | jnwhiteh | forums will make it public |
16:57.39 | jnwhiteh | people who are hiding from their abusive ex-husband won't be able to post on the forums now |
16:57.42 | nevcairiel | Just because your name shows doesn't make it a social network, or increase the chance of leaks |
16:57.43 | jnwhiteh | and other classes of people liek that =) |
16:58.28 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: like this: |
16:58.30 | asmodai | As someone who has had negative ingame experiences due to people finding out I'm female (and I'm posting from a low level alt for this reason) I can safely say I won't be posting on the forums at all any more, be it for technical support or for contributing to the server's RP notices. |
16:58.31 | nevcairiel | As long as you can't click on people and get soem fancy profile that shows other data and their friends list and all :p |
16:58.50 | jnwhiteh | no, just having the information out there is really unfortunate |
16:59.00 | jnwhiteh | so people just won't choose to post on the forums |
16:59.08 | jnwhiteh | and the trolls will find a way to get around it =) |
16:59.20 | asmodai | I might not like the idea that my name is associated with a game so that potential new employers might find out about it. |
16:59.28 | nevcairiel | If they hack the system, they are even more likely to be banned |
16:59.40 | asmodai | They might, beforehand, conclude I am positive/negative due to playing this game. |
16:59.45 | marshen | nevcairiel what about companies... would you hire a guy who wrote >150 posts on a world of warcraft or starcraft forum? i wouldnt! |
17:00.07 | asmodai | Imagine Fisker |
17:00.13 | asmodai | With his rages and trolling :P |
17:00.14 | Kalroth | "would you date a guy/girl who wrote >150 posts on a world of warcraft or starcraft forum? i wouldnt!" |
17:00.15 | nevcairiel | marshen: either people didnt google me or they hired me anyway, i write my name in my addons =p |
17:00.20 | Torhal | asmodai: WOuld you really _want_ to work for someone who considered WoW? |
17:00.39 | asmodai | Torhal: I might not even know they looked for this information. |
17:00.46 | asmodai | In essence, I lose control short of not posting. |
17:00.48 | nevcairiel | I wouldn't want to work for someone that thinks i'm "bad" just because i play a game |
17:01.01 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Exactly. |
17:01.11 | nevcairiel | Hey, i have my activities on wowace in my CV |
17:01.24 | asmodai | nevcairiel: As if every potential employer will do full disclosure on their decision making process. :P |
17:01.25 | nevcairiel | which kinda implies i play, too |
17:01.25 | Kalroth | Up next: yellow pages for WoW - linking your WoW profile to your facebook profile to your linkedin profile to your fishyfish profile |
17:01.31 | Kalroth | all in the name of science, of course |
17:02.07 | asmodai | Kalroth: I'm sure that's going to be piss easy. And already is. |
17:02.15 | nevcairiel | asmodai: of course not, but if they decline me because of it, even if i dont know its that reason, its still fine with me. (Sure i would feel better when i knew the reason) |
17:03.09 | asmodai | Sure, I understand your logical continuation. But sometimes people have preconceived ideas that change over time after being exposed to a gamer like that. :) |
17:03.12 | asmodai | But hey. |
17:03.38 | asmodai | I just think Blizzard is putting people in a very awkward position here. |
17:04.21 | asmodai | Sure, their game and infra, their right. |
17:04.37 | nevcairiel | They should simply allow a real-id alias name, which would still fix some of the trolling problems (people can't create lvl 1 chars to troll on), and allow you your privacy |
17:05.24 | asmodai | Seems a more reasonable intermediate step in my opinion. |
17:05.57 | nevcairiel | Which would also fix peoples ingame concerns about using realid |
17:07.59 | wink | nevcairiel: NOOO, that would make SENSE |
17:08.30 | asmodai | He suffers from it, from time to time. |
17:08.42 | asmodai | nevcairiel: anyway -- saw those vehicle UI thinghies? |
17:08.48 | nevcairiel | v-what? |
17:09.47 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1#t=19m20s |
17:10.13 | nevcairiel | time offset? |
17:10.21 | asmodai | 19m20s |
17:10.51 | Megalon | it should jump automatically to it with that link :x |
17:11.13 | nevcairiel | maybe not on the html5/webm version |
17:11.31 | asmodai | ah, this is the one for flash at least |
17:14.01 | nevcairiel | wth is that guy talking about |
17:14.06 | nevcairiel | "this is the new interface, veryp olished" |
17:14.10 | nevcairiel | it looks like that on live |
17:14.12 | nevcairiel | ffs |
17:14.33 | wink | lol |
17:15.38 | asmodai | nevcairiel: does it? Haven't seen the latest vehicle ui in a while. |
17:15.47 | nevcairiel | it does |
17:15.49 | asmodai | nevcairiel: So no problems there for bt then? |
17:15.55 | asmodai | Including the flasks on both sides? |
17:16.00 | nevcairiel | yes |
17:16.05 | asmodai | cool beans |
17:16.15 | nevcairiel | its 25% broken in BT as it is |
17:16.20 | nevcairiel | never finding time to fix it =( |
17:17.56 | asmodai | :( |
17:22.03 | Primer | I can't recall who it was here that provided me some scraped dungeon level dimensions. |
17:22.41 | nevcairiel | @project libmapdata-1-0 |
17:22.42 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmapdata-1-0/. LibMapData-1.0. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author). Updated: 25 days ago |
17:22.43 | nevcairiel | use that ^ |
17:22.49 | Primer | actually, I just remembered...I pulled them from DBM |
17:22.53 | Primer | Is that new? |
17:22.58 | nevcairiel | pretty much |
17:23.02 | Primer | that wasn't available at the time |
17:23.42 | kagaro | Primer: I keep it updated every patch now with size changes and new areas being added |
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17:24.33 | Primer | I just have a table. Recently, I've found that GetDungeonLevel() (or whatever it's called) returns 0 for a part of ToC |
17:24.33 | GER|koaschten | haha http://www.twitter.com/BlizzardPR |
17:24.33 | Primer | when you drop down to Anub's chamber |
17:24.33 | kagaro | yes correct |
17:24.50 | Primer | but it's random. It then becomes 2 later |
17:26.55 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-11-gb89114c Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
17:26.58 | Repo | b89114c: Use PLAYER_LOGIN instead |
17:27.00 | Repo | ef0d4b8: Fix for slow loading times, we will now recheck fonts after player enter world |
17:27.15 | kagaro | it becomes 2 once you move into his room |
17:27.51 | kagaro | LibMapData has a callback you can register for |
17:28.34 | kagaro | so it will fire the callback when that happens |
17:29.35 | Primer | when the dungeon level changes? |
17:29.47 | kagaro | yeah it should it listens for the 2 zone change events |
17:29.50 | kagaro | err 3 |
17:30.11 | sbu | kagaro: strange new editbox behaviour, its active for some tabs but hidden (not active) for others |
17:30.24 | kagaro | i think yuo get a ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA when you move into his room |
17:30.31 | kagaro | or was it ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS |
17:30.39 | kagaro | sbu: whch frames? |
17:31.27 | kagaro | err tabs |
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17:36.58 | joekin9 | anyone looking to start a new character |
17:37.44 | asmodai | o_O |
17:38.05 | nevcairiel | asmodai: shouldnt you be preparing popcorn and move in front of the tv by now? |
17:38.20 | asmodai | cooking dinner ;) |
17:38.24 | asmodai | and will watch a stream |
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17:41.57 | nevcairiel | You know one feature of chrome thats sometimes *really* useful |
17:42.11 | nevcairiel | I have the same magic-bar history on all comps i use it on |
17:42.14 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-15-g0ddba7a Modules/EditBox.lua: [+4 commits] |
17:42.15 | Repo | 0ddba7a: Fixed oversight on = not being == |
17:42.16 | Repo | e71f4a2: This should be the correct fix now. |
17:42.17 | Repo | e1af92f: Reverting fix, it wasnt quite right |
17:42.17 | nevcairiel | because it syncs them on google |
17:42.18 | Repo | da92f68: Better fix for fonts on edit box |
17:42.19 | nevcairiel | so useful |
17:43.57 | asmodai | nevcairiel: aye, although I use xmarks for that since I switch browsers around a lot for various purposes. |
17:44.15 | nevcairiel | I wish firefox just had a tool to sync with the google things |
17:45.02 | pompy | nevcairiel: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ |
17:45.17 | nevcairiel | that was the pre-chrome era |
17:45.28 | pompy | oh llol |
17:45.33 | pompy | no longer avail for dld |
17:45.36 | pompy | didnt see that |
17:45.52 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/minimainbar/. MiniMainBar. romig2 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
17:45.57 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mui/. mUI. Xocide (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
17:46.04 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autoinvite-martag/. AutoInvite by Martag. martagwowace (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
17:46.09 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bettersocialtooltip/. BetterSocialTooltip. jebus905 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
17:46.30 | nevcairiel | I'm using xmarks as well now, but i think it only syncs bookmarks? |
17:46.46 | nevcairiel | And it stores its stuff on a 3rd party server <.< |
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17:47.35 | pompy | passwords too |
17:47.46 | pompy | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410/ |
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17:48.46 | nevcairiel | I have the chroem addon currently, and its options only talk about bookmarks and open tabs |
17:48.48 | nevcairiel | oh well |
17:48.49 | asmodai | nevcairiel: You can set up your own sync server/place |
17:49.09 | asmodai | chrome does not support password sync due to missing functionality in the browser, apparently |
17:49.41 | nevcairiel | Only place a i really use firefox is at work for firebug, anyway |
17:49.53 | nevcairiel | and i have a different bookmarks profile |
17:51.10 | nevcairiel | Hm, did the chrome dev channel UI change? I only have one button on the right of the url bar, it used to be two |
17:52.23 | Stanzilla | yup |
17:52.28 | vithos | i read a couple days ago that they were combining the buttons as an optional command line switch |
17:52.36 | nevcairiel | its kinda nifty |
17:52.37 | vithos | but i guess it's gone live on dev now |
17:52.42 | Stanzilla | Windows |
17:52.42 | Stanzilla | Consolidated menu is on by default |
17:52.56 | vithos | idk i've been using firefox4 lately. it's impressively faster than 3 |
17:53.04 | vithos | a lot of bugs in the nightlies of course |
17:53.17 | vithos | but i love me some adblock plus |
17:53.38 | nevcairiel | I updated my minefield to some 4 version a few days ago |
17:53.51 | nevcairiel | just to see how it feels now |
17:53.55 | nevcairiel | I still like chrome :d |
17:54.14 | nevcairiel | AdThwart works good enough :) |
17:54.22 | vithos | if chrome ever gets real adblocking i'll switch immediately (unless firefox4 is released by then and is much better) |
17:54.58 | vithos | i've become spoiled with how much abp is able to cleanup the layout |
17:55.01 | nevcairiel | It does use the same filtering engine as adblock plus |
17:55.19 | vithos | it uses the same filter list, but it doesn't have the ability to do the same things as abp does |
17:55.42 | vithos | they're trying to fake it now but it's unreliable |
17:56.22 | vithos | (referring to blocking before the resource is loaded) |
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17:56.50 | nevcairiel | didnt google plan on fixing that |
17:57.08 | joekin9 | anyone wanna start a new char with recruit a friend send a message to me |
17:57.20 | vithos | they had something in progress on a bug about privacy blacklisting but scrapped it and set the bug to WillNotFix or whatever |
17:57.41 | vithos | but that was scrapping that particular implementation or method |
17:57.46 | vithos | they might still do it later |
17:58.00 | nevcairiel | the development is going forward pretty fast, imho |
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17:59.21 | vithos | i just hope they're not avoiding the feature to protect their ad revenues |
17:59.23 | nevcairiel | if FF4 manages to create a decent UI, and improve the address bar to be more like chrome's, i can switch to it :P |
17:59.35 | vithos | heh yeah. i hate having the separate search bar |
17:59.42 | Stanzilla | adblock for chrome does the blocking before loading thing tho |
17:59.44 | nevcairiel | I got so used to just type in the address box |
17:59.56 | vithos | Stanzilla: it tries, but it fails depending on the speed of your computer or something |
18:00.03 | Stanzilla | ah |
18:00.17 | Stanzilla | what's btw for chrome btw, adblock or adthwart? |
18:00.25 | nevcairiel | i use adthwart |
18:00.32 | nevcairiel | uses the adblock plus filters |
18:01.07 | nevcairiel | i only run like 3 extensions in chrome |
18:01.17 | nevcairiel | adthwart, flashblock, and google-analytics-optout |
18:02.04 | Stanzilla | i have some youtube enhancements |
18:02.12 | Stanzilla | like auto replay and middle click logo change |
18:02.38 | nevcairiel | i only go to youtube when someone links me something :p |
18:03.01 | orionshock | I use adblock in chrome, and the layout is just fine vithos, is it fubaring it for you? |
18:04.07 | nevcairiel | anyway! I finally decided what components to get for my HTPC .. now just to order sometime in the next month or so :d |
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18:07.08 | Stanzilla | the only thing that bugs all the time are layer ads |
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18:07.30 | Stanzilla | it sometimes removes the content of them but leaves the layer and background there, so it sits there without a close button <.< |
18:07.41 | nevcairiel | i had that too, i think |
18:08.07 | vithos | orionshock: it's not breaking the page layouts it's just not cleaning them up as well. if i get some time later i might try to find an example but i'm working atm |
18:08.12 | Stanzilla | happens all the time and not even a page reload helps |
18:10.56 | asmodai | <3 |
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18:27.01 | Primer | extended maintenance |
18:27.08 | Primer | 1PM |
18:31.31 | asmodai | heh |
18:31.32 | asmodai | again |
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18:44.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hardwareversand.de ftw, my HDDs are already on their way |
18:44.52 | Gnarfoz | (finally ordered them at 3am or something last night) |
18:44.55 | nevcairiel | I checked them out, but they didnt have the ram i wanted |
18:44.58 | nevcairiel | or any comparable ram |
18:45.10 | Gnarfoz | well, geizhals.at/de anyway to check out who has what ;) |
18:45.15 | nevcairiel | yeah |
18:45.27 | Gnarfoz | VV-Computer sadly was like "I'mma trick you" |
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18:45.54 | Gnarfoz | the low price they had for the HDDs was linked to the geizhals.at referall code |
18:46.02 | nevcairiel | mindfactory had all of it for pretty cheap, but actually charging me more money for basic support things that every other job offers for free drove me away |
18:46.15 | nevcairiel | s/job/shop/ |
18:46.26 | Gnarfoz | and they limit you to 1pc of them then. I deleted the cookies and lost the referer, and bam, +20EUR price. |
18:46.37 | nevcairiel | yeah many shops do that :( |
18:46.45 | nevcairiel | when you want multiple it sucks |
18:46.46 | Gnarfoz | that's actually the first I ever noticed that |
18:46.55 | nevcairiel | well if you only want one, its usually great |
18:47.08 | Gnarfoz | but hardwareversand hat them at, like +0.40EUR, and didn't use a promotion code |
18:47.10 | nevcairiel | i had the same problem when i got 4 of the same hdd |
18:47.33 | Gnarfoz | so hardwareversand for the HDDs and VV for the SSD + the 4in3 mounting modules |
18:47.39 | nevcairiel | Although i'm not absolutely sure what i3 to get |
18:47.49 | Gnarfoz | what are you getting an i3 for? htpc? |
18:47.52 | nevcairiel | yea |
18:47.55 | Gnarfoz | I see |
18:48.09 | nevcairiel | But i want enough power to do software decoding in case the GPU decoding fails |
18:48.17 | Gnarfoz | I've more or less decided to wait until 2011 w/ system upgrade |
18:48.27 | asmodai | woooo |
18:48.28 | asmodai | 1-0 |
18:48.33 | Gnarfoz | haha |
18:48.34 | nevcairiel | 0-1 actually |
18:48.42 | asmodai | well, yea |
18:48.44 | Gnarfoz | who's "left" and who's "right"? |
18:48.49 | nevcairiel | uru:ned |
18:48.49 | Gnarfoz | i.e. who's "hosting" |
18:48.52 | Gnarfoz | kk |
18:49.03 | Gnarfoz | looks more and more like ger:ned finals |
18:49.03 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
18:49.12 | Gnarfoz | that is if someone doesn't fuck up tomorrow |
18:49.22 | nevcairiel | I think i'll just spend the few euro extra and get the faster i3 |
18:49.25 | Gnarfoz | poor Mueller :D |
18:49.28 | nevcairiel | just to be safe :P |
18:50.09 | Gnarfoz | I'm not really satisified with my e6750 (+8800gtx) anymore, but changing CPU+Mobo+RAM now seems kind of a waste if the next gen is "right around the corner" |
18:50.22 | nevcairiel | hehe, that was my old comp |
18:50.34 | nevcairiel | well, except i had a ts |
18:50.36 | nevcairiel | gts* |
18:50.59 | nevcairiel | now the 6750 is my file server |
18:51.03 | vithos | the next gen is always right around the corner :) |
18:51.34 | Gnarfoz | vithos: nah, it actually goes through stages from "is not far off" to "right around the corner" |
18:51.47 | Gnarfoz | although admittedly, it being off more than half a year is not really "right around the corner" |
18:51.53 | nevcairiel | The i3 is just so attractive with its IGP that can do full hardware video decoding and hdmi audio bitstreaming.. |
18:52.02 | Gnarfoz | if your videos are L4.1, that is |
18:52.09 | Gnarfoz | or retail blurays |
18:52.31 | nevcairiel | I dont think i have much L5.1, if any |
18:52.54 | nevcairiel | but for that case i'm getting the faster i3 so it can do software decoding |
18:53.16 | vithos | i'm eyeing an OCed i5-750 / 5850 to replace my athlon64X2 4400+ / 7800 GTX |
18:53.26 | nevcairiel | its still a nehalem, and at 3.2ghz dual-core + HT .. it'll do well |
18:53.46 | Gnarfoz | that's oversized by a big margin already ;p |
18:54.05 | Gnarfoz | oh, you're probably on linux, no CoreAVC there ;p |
18:54.15 | nevcairiel | no coreavc without nvidia |
18:54.18 | Gnarfoz | what |
18:54.21 | Gnarfoz | coreavc is cpu. |
18:54.30 | Gnarfoz | the gpu decoding part is absolutely superfluous ;p |
18:54.35 | nevcairiel | the main selling point of CoreAVC is the CUDA decoding |
18:54.38 | Gnarfoz | absolutely not |
18:54.40 | nevcairiel | in cpu mode its not really much faster |
18:54.53 | nevcairiel | slightly, sure |
18:54.56 | nevcairiel | but not much |
18:54.56 | Gnarfoz | it is a ton faster than ffmpeg oO |
18:55.05 | Gnarfoz | unless ffmpeg did a lot of catching up |
18:55.12 | Gnarfoz | wich they might have |
18:55.17 | nevcairiel | dunno when you measured |
18:55.32 | nevcairiel | But i do own a coreavc license, but i also have a nvidia card now |
18:55.33 | Gnarfoz | coreavc v1.3 times or so |
18:55.49 | nevcairiel | And the htpc will of course be windows |
18:55.49 | Gnarfoz | I do, too, but 8800GTX is not one of the cards it can use, sadly |
18:55.52 | nevcairiel | blurays fail on linux |
18:56.15 | Gnarfoz | now, to pick some t-shirts |
18:56.25 | nevcairiel | the multithreaded ffmpeg is really doing quite well |
18:56.29 | Gnarfoz | "baking is science for hungry people"? |
18:56.39 | nevcairiel | hehe, QC tshirts |
18:56.42 | Gnarfoz | "Sarcasm is JUST GREAT!"? :D |
18:57.12 | Gnarfoz | http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TO&Category_Code=ALLSHIRTS - a buddy of mine is ordering from them soon, gave me a heads up in case I want anything from there, to save on shipping costs |
18:57.24 | Gnarfoz | Sarcasm shirt is a winner for sure |
18:58.17 | nevcairiel | get "white text on a black shirt" |
18:58.21 | GER|koaschten | HEADSHOT |
18:58.27 | GER|koaschten | whoops wrong channel |
18:58.30 | GER|koaschten | : |
18:58.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: nah, I can get that from 3dsupply ;p |
18:59.10 | nevcairiel | 3dsupply clones QC shirts as well now? |
18:59.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: and I favor their "Comic Sans MS 120pt underlined" shirt, if I was going that route |
18:59.31 | Gnarfoz | I thought they had a "white text on a black shirt" for ages, maybe I'm mistaken^^ |
19:00.54 | nevcairiel | i barely have time to wear such shirts anymore :( |
19:01.01 | Gnarfoz | oh my http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=HIJI-EDWARD&Category_Code=ALLSHIRTS |
19:01.15 | Gnarfoz | how awesome is that |
19:02.18 | nevcairiel | wth is going on in that game |
19:02.37 | Gnarfoz | which game? :D |
19:02.40 | Gnarfoz | oh, football |
19:02.42 | Gnarfoz | xD |
19:03.02 | asmodai | nevcairiel: mm? |
19:03.14 | nevcairiel | everyone seems to play totally aggressive |
19:03.44 | asmodai | yeah |
19:03.51 | asmodai | not the Dutch playstyle :S |
19:04.46 | Torhal | slaps asmodai with a rubber chicken, simply because he has one. |
19:04.50 | Torhal | :D |
19:04.54 | asmodai | I gave you it! |
19:04.57 | Torhal | I know! |
19:05.00 | asmodai | Owww, the pulley, the pulley |
19:05.04 | Torhal | Haha |
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19:09.56 | Axodious | "i've got this BRILLIANT idea guys! why don't we use everyones REAL NAME on the forums! that would fix those trolls for good!" |
19:10.20 | asmodai | copy pastes the discussion from about 2 hours ago |
19:10.38 | Zyn | 1-1 |
19:10.40 | Zyn | deeeeerp goal |
19:10.41 | nevcairiel | head over to #wowuidev, they still talk about it |
19:11.39 | Axodious | i was afk installing my AC when they posted |
19:11.40 | Axodious | :( |
19:11.46 | Axodious | missed the good convo |
19:12.13 | asmodai | was not a good convo |
19:12.17 | asmodai | nev and me called each other names |
19:12.28 | asmodai | and questioned each other's sexuality and religious background |
19:12.41 | nevcairiel | i called you asmodai, and you called me nevcairiel, its a thing we have |
19:13.02 | NeoTron | I think a new rule is that we need to use real names in IRC |
19:13.04 | NeoTron | all IRC |
19:13.10 | NeoTron | that ought to stop irc trolling! |
19:13.35 | asmodai | nevcairiel: ;) |
19:16.15 | Axodious | to quote my room mate "for only 2$ a month get a battle.net gold account including idprotect!" |
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19:25.23 | kagaro | All posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name. |
19:25.33 | kagaro | so guess they caved that one real quick |
19:26.54 | NeoTron | kagaro: just means you can opt in whether you want to post, or not |
19:27.05 | NeoTron | i.e they won't retroactively change posts to use real id |
19:28.36 | Megalon | http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ATVI ;o |
19:30.16 | nevcairiel | caved what? |
19:30.18 | nevcairiel | nothing changed |
19:30.34 | nevcairiel | you do opt to post |
19:30.37 | nevcairiel | you are not forced to :p |
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19:37.37 | GER|koaschten | nevcairiel you probably heard about that /run command already that can get your real name using some real ID call. can/does curse/wowace scan for bad "calls" in addons? |
19:37.59 | nevcairiel | no |
19:39.09 | Gnarfoz | but I suggested some weeks ago something like this be implemented |
19:39.29 | nevcairiel | you can't scan for stuff like that |
19:39.37 | nevcairiel | if someone really wants to hide it, he will |
19:39.40 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten and jnwhiteh both said that'd be easy to do and they'd think about it |
19:39.50 | nevcairiel | its just default battle.net chat calls |
19:39.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware |
19:40.10 | nevcairiel | not any special function, even |
19:40.23 | GER|koaschten | cant wait for omen telling me that jimmybobhighthreat is about to pull aggro again ;) |
19:40.57 | Gnarfoz | *removes all black shirts from the candidate list* |
19:41.27 | Gnarfoz | that's kind of a good way to reduce the number of shirts you're considering |
19:41.28 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
19:41.40 | nevcairiel | you have shirts left now? |
19:41.57 | Gnarfoz | sure |
19:41.59 | Gnarfoz | 4 |
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19:51.49 | pompy | lol..login server is currently busy |
19:54.36 | asmodai | impossible, world cup in session |
19:58.05 | asmodai | woo |
19:58.07 | asmodai | 1-2 it seems |
19:58.45 | nevcairiel | it is |
19:59.13 | asmodai | rofl, he just lifted his feet up |
20:01.24 | asmodai | oh |
20:01.25 | asmodai | again? |
20:01.46 | asmodai | wooooooooo |
20:02.12 | asmodai | oh, prince and wife in the audience |
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20:09.18 | kagaro | lol @ dutch porn stars |
20:10.01 | Stanzilla | what about them? |
20:10.22 | kagaro | there is one offering a blowjob to all her twitter followers if the dutch win the world cup |
20:10.36 | kagaro | well netherlands |
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20:10.41 | kagaro | so that should be funny |
20:11.08 | Stanzilla | brb moving country |
20:11.14 | kagaro | rofl |
20:11.15 | orionshock | lol |
20:11.38 | kagaro | stan gets on line at serviing number 5000 |
20:11.51 | nevcairiel | her number of followers is probably increasing by alot now |
20:11.57 | nevcairiel | although i doubt she would go through with it :p |
20:12.00 | kagaro | over 5k |
20:12.09 | Megalon | hooray 4 pr |
20:12.20 | kagaro | thats one way to drive traffic to her site |
20:16.13 | asmodai | kagaro: not Kim Holland, please |
20:16.38 | kagaro | Bobbi Eden |
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20:22.23 | asmodai | 2-4? |
20:22.36 | nevcairiel | 2:3 |
20:22.44 | asmodai | ah |
20:23.57 | nevcairiel | would've been so awesome if uru made the 3:3 in 94' or so |
20:24.04 | asmodai | pffft |
20:25.16 | asmodai | Now come on you silly Germans. |
20:25.19 | asmodai | meet us there. |
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20:27.26 | asmodai | but ffs |
20:27.31 | asmodai | shove that vuvuzela up your ass |
20:27.48 | nevcairiel | haha |
20:27.51 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for winning |
20:27.54 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr, Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr... |
20:28.10 | nevcairiel | haha |
20:28.52 | asmodai | pffft |
20:29.11 | Gnarfoz | they're playing that on the fucking radio here, haha |
20:29.18 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:29.21 | nevcairiel | wth are you listening to |
20:29.22 | olafski | what's mallabfuhr? |
20:29.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: SWR3 |
20:29.40 | nevcairiel | garbage man |
20:29.51 | nevcairiel | or whatever its properly called in english |
20:29.52 | Gnarfoz | olafski: garbage truck/the guys operating it |
20:30.07 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that directly translates |
20:30.16 | Gnarfoz | ~x de en Müllabfuhr |
20:30.18 | Gnarfoz | always bet on purl |
20:30.23 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
20:30.26 | Gnarfoz | no utf8 for purl |
20:30.29 | nevcairiel | ~x de en muellabfuhr |
20:30.39 | Gnarfoz | well, that's... close. |
20:30.50 | nevcairiel | i remember some song from the simpsons where they used garbage man for the people |
20:31.09 | Gnarfoz | the "Muellabfuhr" is the entity, or company, or organization tasked with or responsible for garbage disposal. |
20:31.44 | asmodai | Well |
20:31.50 | asmodai | Lets see DE make it to the finals first :P |
20:31.53 | asmodai | THEN play the song |
20:31.53 | asmodai | :P |
20:32.09 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
20:32.20 | asmodai | Although I have little doubt they can whip Spain |
20:32.20 | nevcairiel | we'll just eat that betraying octopus and win |
20:32.33 | Gnarfoz | it's not like I'm a football nut, but apparently it's now allowed to support them just because you're German! |
20:32.41 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: ^^ |
20:32.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: omnomnom |
20:32.57 | asmodai | Fuer die Heimat! |
20:33.12 | nevcairiel | http://www.leasticoulddo.com/ |
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20:33.21 | nevcairiel | todays comic comes to mind |
20:33.29 | asmodai | Yeah |
20:33.32 | asmodai | it rocks :) |
20:33.45 | Gnarfoz | haha |
20:34.14 | olafski | is my UTF8 wrong or are you posting wrong text gnarfoz? :P |
20:34.23 | Gnarfoz | olafski: the latter |
20:34.25 | olafski | seems it's mine |
20:34.30 | Gnarfoz | err |
20:34.33 | olafski | my own :u doesn't work either |
20:34.36 | Gnarfoz | what, I'm druck, the former |
20:34.40 | Gnarfoz | drunk, too |
20:34.49 | olafski | ü |
20:34.50 | olafski | there we go |
20:34.53 | asmodai | works for me |
20:34.56 | nevcairiel | üöä |
20:34.57 | Gnarfoz | looks good |
20:35.08 | asmodai | Für die Heimat! |
20:35.08 | nevcairiel | just purls translate feature doesnt like it |
20:35.11 | olafski | yep I accidentally overwrote my putty settings the other day so had to recreate it |
20:35.37 | olafski | I don't care about soccer but the atmosphere in the street here is pretty funny |
20:35.43 | Megalon | üöä üöä |
20:35.49 | Megalon | hm |
20:35.57 | olafski | maybe I'll watch the finals |
20:36.00 | asmodai | ããã£ããï¼ |
20:36.01 | olafski | would be fun if it's against germany |
20:36.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: poor purl simply doesn't do utf8 |
20:36.14 | Gnarfoz | olafski: would be more fun if Germany wins |
20:36.15 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
20:36.27 | nevcairiel | it does actually send back the utf8 chars.. as ascii chars.. |
20:36.37 | olafski | that would be funny yes |
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20:37.05 | Gnarfoz | that's because it reads and writes only singlebyte chars, and utf8 is, well, multibyte :D |
20:37.42 | Gnarfoz | haha fuck that, even using the android sdk emulator makes me want to buy a modern cell phone right now |
20:37.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:38.04 | nevcairiel | didnt you want to get a nexus one? |
20:38.07 | nevcairiel | not back in stock yet? |
20:38.21 | Gnarfoz | I did, but since you can't get original google ones anymore, I'm kind of fucked |
20:38.35 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to be tied to Vodafone |
20:38.42 | nevcairiel | You could never really get original google ones in .de |
20:38.47 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
20:38.54 | Gnarfoz | but you can't get them from anywhere now, was my point |
20:38.59 | Gnarfoz | because google stopped selling them |
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20:39.29 | Gnarfoz | just totally ridiculous that non-contract-bound devices would be subject to Vodafone's whims |
20:39.44 | nevcairiel | vodafone always does that crap |
20:39.56 | nevcairiel | too bad that only they sell it |
20:39.58 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
20:40.01 | Gnarfoz | what crap |
20:40.20 | nevcairiel | brand and limit phones |
20:40.27 | Gnarfoz | they're neither branded nor limited |
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20:40.34 | Gnarfoz | they're delaying the firmware update for random reasons; the point is that they can do that |
20:40.37 | nevcairiel | so whats your problem now? |
20:40.55 | nevcairiel | so just get the official firmware if its not a special phone in any way :p |
20:40.57 | Gnarfoz | because it's actually a *slightly* different firmware phone and it'll not accept google's own signed images |
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20:41.21 | Arrowmaster | can that be legal? |
20:41.29 | Gnarfoz | apparently, it can |
20:41.35 | nevcairiel | why wouldn't it be? |
20:41.43 | Shefki | You can root the phone and put whatever you want on it. |
20:41.49 | Gnarfoz | without unlocking the bootloader, that is; which I might do at *some* point anyway. the bad thing about that is that it's a hardware switch, you can't undo it |
20:41.50 | Shefki | It just won't take it without rooting. |
20:41.53 | Arrowmaster | i thought android contained some GPLv3 code |
20:42.02 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: idd, I just tend to not write 4 words per line anymore :p |
20:42.02 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: It does. |
20:42.04 | Arrowmaster | or LGPLv3 |
20:42.13 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: It's all v2 |
20:42.19 | nevcairiel | except that HTC was evil and has some flag that shows if a phone was rooted, a flag that noone figured out how to reset yet |
20:42.23 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: The kernel never adopted v3. |
20:42.23 | Gnarfoz | that only means they have to offer the source code, which they probably do. ;) |
20:42.27 | Arrowmaster | oh |
20:42.30 | nevcairiel | so if you ever want support for a broken phone :d |
20:42.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: exactly |
20:42.36 | Shefki | So no TiVo rule in the v2 license. |
20:42.43 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: no v3 has anti TiVo rules |
20:42.45 | Gnarfoz | what's a TiVo rule? |
20:42.57 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Says they can't lock you out of replacing the software. |
20:43.01 | Gnarfoz | they don't |
20:43.08 | Arrowmaster | says you basically cant sell hardware with it that doesnt allow the gpl software to be replaced |
20:43.13 | Shefki | They have to give you everything you need to build and put the software on the device. |
20:43.15 | Gnarfoz | I can still root it, but google then denies warranty. |
20:43.32 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: You realize there's a root now that doesn't flag the device as rooted? |
20:43.34 | Gnarfoz | which is google, not Vodafone at work |
20:43.35 | Shefki | For the N1 |
20:43.44 | Antiarc | Shefki: That hole was closed with FRF91 |
20:43.51 | Shefki | Ahhh, nm then. |
20:44.01 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: meh, party pooper; and no Shirik, I didn't ;) |
20:44.13 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you need smart nick completion |
20:44.15 | nevcairiel | last spoke order ftw |
20:44.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
20:44.17 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Don't you guys have an insurance program for phones with your carrier? |
20:44.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: what for? oO |
20:44.31 | nevcairiel | you talk to Shirik alot |
20:44.38 | nevcairiel | :p |
20:44.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh, remember, I'm drunk |
20:44.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
20:44.49 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: what good would that do me? and it's a non-contract device |
20:44.51 | durcyn | nevcairiel: irssi defaults, you mean? =P |
20:45.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm with o2, only Vodafone sells the Nexus One in Germany |
20:45.05 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Doesn't matter if it's a contract device you can still buy insurance. |
20:45.13 | Shefki | You buy insurance, it breaks they fix it. |
20:45.18 | Shefki | Who cares what Google thinks then. |
20:45.20 | Gnarfoz | I doubt o2 would offer that |
20:45.22 | nevcairiel | warranty void when rooted |
20:45.27 | nevcairiel | done deal |
20:45.31 | Gnarfoz | and I doubt Vodafone is selling them to non-customers |
20:45.34 | Shefki | That's the manufacturers warranty. |
20:45.37 | Shefki | Not the insurance. |
20:45.50 | nevcairiel | we don't have "insurance" like that |
20:45.58 | Shefki | Insurance is covering if you break it or lose it or it gets stolen. |
20:46.04 | Shefki | They don't give a crap what software is on it. |
20:46.07 | Gnarfoz | well, that's what important, and I bet you there's some clause excluding rooted phones from such insurance contracts; not that I know of any such offers anyway |
20:46.15 | profalbert | There are shops that offer this kind of insurance i think |
20:46.19 | nevcairiel | You go to a insurance company for that |
20:46.23 | nevcairiel | but usually shops dont offer that |
20:46.25 | profalbert | orthat |
20:46.30 | nevcairiel | only very few do |
20:46.34 | Gnarfoz | well, that's really not the same at all |
20:46.39 | profalbert | I know some online shops that do it for notebooks |
20:46.41 | Gnarfoz | especially since I'd have to pay extra for it |
20:46.55 | Shefki | I have insurance on my phone let me find the legal language and see if it says anything about rooted phones, but I doubt it. |
20:46.59 | Gnarfoz | which I wouldn't have to do for the warranty. basically, Vodafone is cheating people out of their warranty. :P |
20:47.20 | nevcairiel | because they delay the firmware? dont be silly =p |
20:47.32 | nevcairiel | I'm still wiating for my 2.1 service pack release on the milestone as well |
20:47.46 | nevcairiel | but i'm unsure if its motorola or o2 causing the delay |
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20:48.21 | Gnarfoz | well, maybe they're not; but if they aren't then they're forcing me to follow their update schedule instead of Google's, for no apparent reason |
20:48.21 | nevcairiel | want the damn alarm clock to be reliable again |
20:48.32 | Gnarfoz | and who's to say they won't start actually modifying their firmware |
20:48.44 | nevcairiel | it apparently is a special firmware already |
20:48.47 | Gnarfoz | like exluding tethering or that wifi hotspot feature |
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20:49.06 | nevcairiel | i have the default DACH firmware on my milestone, but i discovered there actually is a special VF firmware |
20:49.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's just "european model (controlled by vodafone)" apparently, nothing more |
20:49.12 | nevcairiel | which did puzzle me a bit |
20:49.44 | Gnarfoz | not really sure how OTA updating works, but obviously it doesn't pick up Google's updates |
20:49.56 | nevcairiel | if it has a VF firmware, then no |
20:49.58 | Shefki | Looking at this contract it says nothing about the software on the phone. |
20:50.05 | nevcairiel | i do get vanilla motorola updates, i think |
20:50.24 | Shefki | http://shop.sprint.com/en/services/service_repair/phone_protection_services.shtml |
20:50.25 | nevcairiel | Shefki: the point was that eh doesnt want to pay extra for insurance |
20:50.27 | Shefki | That's what I have. |
20:50.36 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: well, good for you, but sadly, we're not in the same country as you. ;) and I personally am not really willing to pay for an insurance just to get my warranty back |
20:51.06 | nevcairiel | Also i personally haven't really seen such offers from providers |
20:51.13 | nevcairiel | but i havent looked either |
20:51.14 | nevcairiel | so shrug |
20:51.17 | Gnarfoz | perhaps I'll at some point see the light and want to get an insurance just to have an insurance, but that's another thing entirely |
20:51.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I think T-Mo offers it for iPhones since the beginning, not entirely sure I got that right, though |
20:51.40 | nevcairiel | if it breaks, just find some guy with haftpflicht, and have him "drop" it :p |
20:52.11 | Shefki | I'm just trying to provide options to him. |
20:52.22 | Shefki | Not saying the whole rooted phone warranty crap doesn'ts uck. |
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20:52.25 | Gnarfoz | and that's fine, I'm not saying you're not making sense. :) |
20:52.31 | Shefki | But I can't entirely blame them either. |
20:52.39 | Shefki | It's entirely possible to brick a phone doing that stuff. |
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20:52.50 | nevcairiel | Apparently motorola said that people would still have warranty if they rooted the phone, as long as the failure is not root related |
20:52.54 | nevcairiel | ie. you bricking your phone |
20:52.59 | Gnarfoz | it just irks me because of the whole "well, I want as free a phone as possible, so nexus one sounds really good" |
20:53.02 | Gnarfoz | thing |
20:53.25 | Shefki | nevcairiel: The problem of course is dealing with the people who try to take advantage. |
20:53.36 | Gnarfoz | isn't it always |
20:53.45 | nevcairiel | Honestly i dont really have a reason to root my phone right now |
20:53.54 | Shefki | Yeah I haven't rooted my EVO. |
20:54.00 | Shefki | The only thing I'd gain by rooting it is full backups. |
20:54.00 | nevcairiel | All i use is some memory manager that requires root |
20:54.01 | Gnarfoz | just like nevcairiel said, insurance fraud is just as good. *cough* |
20:54.04 | nevcairiel | but i could certainly turn that off |
20:54.11 | Shefki | And the stuff I'd be backing up is trivial to put back on it anyway. |
20:54.14 | steev | i'd root my phone so i could fap to the console |
20:54.25 | nevcairiel | steev: just ssh to another server |
20:54.26 | nevcairiel | shh |
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20:54.59 | nevcairiel | i think when i upgrade to 2.2, i won't reapply the root |
20:55.14 | nevcairiel | but 2.2 will probably take until august or so =( |
20:55.32 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: haha, I just tried to click the "x" button on your screenshot of the android emu |
20:55.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:55.44 | GER|koaschten | i win |
20:55.47 | Gnarfoz | I had the actual app in exactly that spot |
20:56.14 | Primer | Anyone think I'll be able to get Shadowmourne before the next expansion if I complete Frost Infusion this lockout? |
20:56.28 | nevcairiel | sure, expansion is still half a year out |
20:56.36 | nevcairiel | well, not exactly |
20:56.38 | Gnarfoz | more than enough time, especially if you kill hardmodes |
20:56.41 | nevcairiel | but 4 month or so |
20:56.47 | GER|koaschten | primer you can roughly get 3-5 shards a reset easily |
20:56.51 | Primer | also consider that my guild sucks and we only do heroic loot ship, and don't have Sind on farm |
20:56.59 | Gnarfoz | that reminds me, I should start playing before our second one is done, so I can grab the third |
20:57.29 | Gnarfoz | start=resume |
20:57.50 | GER|koaschten | so much for me keeping myself of google, blizzard and their real id... actually, the only way to find me currently is ... know my realname AND twitter handle |
20:58.53 | Gnarfoz | just stop posting, it's not like Blizz cares about EU anyway, etc etc. |
20:59.56 | Repo | 10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r181 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
20:59.57 | Repo | Move the function call that allows moving the chat frame to the edge of the screen from the buttons module to the resize_chatframe module. |
20:59.57 | Primer | 3-5 shards a run...ugh, it's gonna be rough |
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21:00.27 | nevcairiel | 10 to 15 weeks, gogo |
21:01.09 | Primer | I should have had frost infusion last week, but my stupid guild needed healers to run, so I went on my priest |
21:02.23 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: I know how to find you >:O |
21:02.33 | Gnarfoz | also, at least no pics on google of my under my real name |
21:02.40 | GER|koaschten | tell me in pm and i tell you if you found me for real ;) |
21:03.11 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: depends on what I should find |
21:03.38 | Gnarfoz | I should have your street address somewhere? :P (or your parents', maybe.) |
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21:07.07 | Gnarfoz | amazingly, google image search for Gnarfoz only returns random avatars of OTHER people xD |
21:07.15 | Gnarfoz | for example, yours GER|koaschten |
21:07.53 | GER|koaschten | w00t? |
21:08.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it has both of us on some wowace addon page commenting on an addon or voting on a ticket |
21:08.24 | GER|koaschten | haha i upvoted a ticket? ^^ |
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21:08.39 | Gnarfoz | and since avatars are to the left of the name on wowace, but google associates "text -> image" not the other way around, it thinks your avatar is mine |
21:08.57 | Gnarfoz | meh, I should purge google cookies before doing tests like these |
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21:09.25 | GER|koaschten | can't even remember upvoting that unless you told me to :D |
21:09.29 | durcyn | hardly matters, they have your ass dead to rights by IP and user-agent already |
21:09.49 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: IP lol |
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21:10.15 | durcyn | i didn't know you were a tor-tard? |
21:10.18 | Gnarfoz | how is it so hard to recall: people in many parts Europe are all on dynamic IPs |
21:10.42 | durcyn | yes, yes, you're very smart. what's your DHCP lease time? |
21:10.44 | Gnarfoz | UA is another story, but that's EFF.org, not google |
21:10.50 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: it doesn't even use DHCP. |
21:11.01 | Gnarfoz | and you get forcibly disconnected every 24hrs |
21:11.01 | GER|koaschten | durcyn 24hours |
21:11.27 | Gnarfoz | some ISPs even have that at 12hrs or 8hrs, but those bitches be crazy |
21:11.38 | GER|koaschten | though actually, i dont get anymore, if i get around to tell my router to stop reconnecting at 5am :D |
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21:11.53 | Shefki | Does't much matter what your lease time is, I don't know of a DHCP server that won't try to give you the same IP you had before unless they've given it to someone else. |
21:11.59 | Gnarfoz | you're not on a DSL ISP anymore either, GER|koaschten |
21:12.18 | GER|koaschten | Shefki the fact is, that you get forcibly disconnected |
21:12.25 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: indeed; it's still not DHCP though |
21:12.28 | Shefki | And as long as you're actively using it you'll just keep renewing the same DHCP. |
21:12.34 | GER|koaschten | and the ip doesn't get released before |
21:12.47 | GER|koaschten | so you can't get it assigned again, or at least i had it never happen |
21:13.08 | Gnarfoz | you could possibly get the same IP as you just had, but obviously the chances of that happening randomly are low. |
21:13.23 | Shefki | Actually it's really high since DHCP servers are designed to try and do that. |
21:13.29 | durcyn | bet you ten bucks there's dhcp on the upstream of your CPE |
21:13.31 | Shefki | Because it prevents breaking the TCP connections. |
21:13.40 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: wasn't before, not sure if my new ISP does it |
21:13.46 | GER|koaschten | Shefki but it never happend for german providers in the last 10 (?) years? |
21:13.48 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: the INTENTION is to break connections. |
21:14.04 | Shefki | Why would that be the intention? |
21:14.16 | Gnarfoz | because they don't want consumer customers running servers at home |
21:14.31 | Shefki | They can't stop that by changing IP addresses. |
21:14.32 | GER|koaschten | to discourage using it as a real leased line with static ip and stuff and to at least get a handle on those torrent bastards ;) |
21:14.36 | Shefki | That's what Dynamic DNS is for. |
21:14.52 | GER|koaschten | Shefki sure, but it makes it harder / more inconvenient |
21:14.53 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: it's in their TOS, too, btw |
21:14.57 | durcyn | rotating addresses has fuck-all for effect on torrent traffic |
21:15.20 | durcyn | if anything it's worse, since you get backscatter at the old IP |
21:15.22 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: it's not about p2p, he's wrong about that |
21:15.32 | GER|koaschten | durcyn actually, you have to reconnect to the tracker, reconnect to all clients and work through the other clients queues to transfer data again. |
21:15.43 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: that takes about 1 minute |
21:15.50 | durcyn | yes, i know how bittorrent works. the ramp-up time is negligible. |
21:16.14 | Shefki | You guys have shity ISPs. That's what I'm going to conclude. |
21:16.26 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: it's been that way for as long as broadband has existed here. |
21:16.30 | Shefki | And if you're relying on your shitty ISP to protect your privacy you're really nuts. |
21:16.35 | Gnarfoz | privacy? lol |
21:16.40 | GER|koaschten | at least they dont rape us with fixed download caps and 100+ bucks a month ;) |
21:16.41 | Gnarfoz | we have fucking LAWS against that. |
21:17.08 | Shefki | We have laws against murder, people still get murdered. |
21:17.08 | durcyn | i believe the assertion was "google wouldn't possibly associate any traffic from an address with the last account that was logged in from it", which is dubious at best. |
21:17.11 | Gnarfoz | and I'm not kidding, ISPs being forced by law to give out IP<->customer<->time association data. |
21:17.47 | Gnarfoz | not too long ago, it was considered against privacy laws for them to even save that data |
21:17.56 | Gnarfoz | it's the opposite now, :F |
21:18.04 | nevcairiel | vorratsdatenspeicherung was abandoned again |
21:18.10 | Shefki | It's worth pointing out that you have competing government interests. |
21:18.14 | durcyn | also, i'm rather convinced that you need to seek psychiatric help for your propensity for ranting about ISPs, Gnarfoz |
21:18.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: abandoned != what happened |
21:18.18 | Shefki | Law Enforcement is pushing for them to save fucking everything. |
21:18.29 | Shefki | Other people are pushing for them not to save anything. |
21:18.43 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: your baseless assumptions about what google does or doesn't do don't let you look much better, tbh |
21:19.04 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: sadly, the "other people" are not the guys in power |
21:19.11 | Shefki | Exactly. |
21:19.18 | Gnarfoz | they'll just do it again via EU this time |
21:19.26 | Gnarfoz | like they always do |
21:19.49 | Megalon | yea, they'll vote for it in the EU |
21:19.52 | Shefki | So it really doesn't matter if your ip changes every hour, they almost certainly have a log. |
21:20.04 | Megalon | and then they'll say "we can't do anything, it is from the EU!!11" |
21:20.05 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: also, since when do I have a "propensity" for ranting about ISPs? assuming that means I'm inclined to do it more often than the average person |
21:21.14 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: you went off on a tangent, i commented on it, let's leave it at that |
21:21.16 | Gnarfoz | also, I said "log out" and "clear cookies" and indeed that did change my search results. you were the one getting IPs into this in the first place. |
21:22.11 | durcyn | next time maybe "it's been my experience that they don't do that", to which I'll reply with "oh, okay" and go about my business |
21:22.17 | Gnarfoz | (it would seem that IPs and UAs were the tangential thing; I concede that, had I not picked up upon that, we'd probably done with the topic already ;P) |
21:22.30 | durcyn | so, how about that world cup |
21:22.36 | Gnarfoz | it's tasty |
21:22.37 | Gnarfoz | :D |
21:22.57 | durcyn | i should've put money on germany weeks ago |
21:23.17 | GER|koaschten | i should have bought that flatpanel tv last friday |
21:23.23 | Gnarfoz | should've put some money into germany weeks ago, maybe we'd not be this fucking broke, then ;D |
21:23.28 | GER|koaschten | taking the retailers bet of money back if they win the wc |
21:23.40 | nevcairiel | yeah, that would've been awesome now |
21:23.48 | Gnarfoz | that's how betting goes |
21:23.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
21:24.00 | GER|koaschten | nevcairiel i stood inside a mediamarkt and pondering just taking out a 650eu flatpanel anyway :/ |
21:25.03 | Gnarfoz | meh, my flickr profile is on page 1 of results. at least none of the pics have me in them. |
21:25.18 | GER|koaschten | btw i can't wait for seeing comic strips associating the BP oil spill with Blizzard Real ID and both going down in bankrupcy |
21:25.21 | Gnarfoz | could probably turn them non-public now anyway, those have served their purpose anyway |
21:25.31 | Gnarfoz | GER|koaschten: too bad BP will not go bankrupt :( |
21:27.21 | nevcairiel | I want to get a new flat panel as well, except, i currently have no room for it, and i'm only moving into the new place in september |
21:27.25 | Gnarfoz | whee okcupid profiles are publically indexable?! |
21:27.29 | nevcairiel | so buying it now seemed really like a waste |
21:27.41 | nevcairiel | and i really didnt expect ger to win :p |
21:27.53 | Gnarfoz | it's not like they have any relevant european userbase anyway, let's hope they have a "delete account" button |
21:28.18 | nevcairiel | international online dating, eh |
21:28.44 | Gnarfoz | their page and the matching engine seems really sophisticated |
21:28.58 | Gnarfoz | but as these things so, not having a userbase in the desired region trumps that |
21:29.11 | nevcairiel | interesting, you used your nick as the handle there |
21:30.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: try reloading plx? |
21:30.27 | Stanzilla | 25 / M / Straight |
21:30.29 | Stanzilla | yeah right! |
21:30.31 | nevcairiel | its gone |
21:30.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-54-g48fa498 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
21:30.42 | Repo | 48fa498: Updated the Changelog. |
21:30.43 | Repo | e3746d3: Removed a line in the in-game documentation which indicates that the GUI is a recent addition. |
21:30.44 | Repo | 6a257aa: List entries of the types "World Drop" or "Custom" will no longer show a tooltip hint for creating waypoints. |
21:30.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: at least that works as I'd expect ;D |
21:31.01 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I obviously have the hots for you |
21:31.06 | Stanzilla | zomg |
21:31.08 | Gnarfoz | let's meet |
21:31.53 | Gnarfoz | haha |
21:31.54 | Gnarfoz | http://www.stepmap.de/landkarte/community-of-st-cuthbert-w-o-text-1-15070 |
21:31.58 | Stanzilla | i could send you fisker |
21:32.07 | Gnarfoz | didn't expect to stumple upon that with a simple search of "gnarfoz" |
21:35.07 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r4 / (11 files in 9 directories): Changed timing to AceTimer-3.0 |
21:35.09 | Repo | Included .pkgmeta |
21:35.46 | Repo | 10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 07master * 0211a66 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] First commit |
21:36.38 | Gnarfoz | also, my Ohloh profile is probably useless |
21:37.27 | Stanzilla | good that my nick is used by millions of people \o/ |
21:37.57 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r5 libs/: Deleted libs folder |
21:39.07 | Gnarfoz | meh, ohloh only does account deletions via email request, that's kind of not modern |
21:39.54 | pentium166 | sounds like xbox live, can't remove a recurring subscription unless you call them |
21:40.25 | Gnarfoz | that sounds like money is involved, which makes it a bit different imho |
21:41.08 | Gnarfoz | I guess letting the account rot with personal details removed is not that bad |
21:41.36 | Gnarfoz | so how do I go about buying a car when I don't have a car to go look at cars? :p |
21:41.43 | Gnarfoz | still haven't solved that problem |
21:42.39 | vhaarr | kagaro: if you have any good logs then send away |
21:42.47 | Gnarfoz | just like the "dang, done cooking, if I do the dishes (except the one the food is on) right now, the food will be cold until I'm ready to eat it. But if I eat first, then I won't do the dishes as soon as I'm done eating." problem :D |
21:44.15 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r6 .pkgmeta: Updated .pkgmeta to include AceTimer-3.0 |
21:44.18 | Gnarfoz | getting a microwave oven would be workaround, but somehow it doesn't feel right to put a freshly cooked meal where pre-made stuff usually goes. ;p |
21:44.45 | GER|koaschten | hmm real ID on slashdot |
21:45.01 | GER|koaschten | can we slashdot blizzard? that'd be fun |
21:45.54 | Gnarfoz | slashdot their forums simply through pageviews, hmm not sure what the numbers are on that |
21:46.23 | Gnarfoz | their huge-ass tomcat based XML website sounds like a better bet, haha |
21:46.38 | Arrowmaster | forums use tomcat too |
21:46.46 | GER|koaschten | was about to say that :D |
21:47.04 | Arrowmaster | i found the exact software they used once because of the traceback on an error page but i forgot what it was |
21:47.24 | Gnarfoz | "shit 1.3"? |
21:48.42 | Gnarfoz | haha dang |
21:49.05 | Gnarfoz | got a debian package bug where I used my gmail address with my real name as the sender |
21:49.22 | Gnarfoz | not going to be able to get rid of that any time soon |
21:50.22 | Stanzilla | 24h maintenance sez: hi |
21:51.58 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: it doz? |
21:51.59 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r7 embeds.xml: Updated embeds.xml to include AceTimer-3.0 |
21:52.03 | Gnarfoz | ~wowalert |
21:52.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
21:52.06 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yez |
21:52.18 | Gnarfoz | cool, my realm, too, apparently |
21:52.42 | Gnarfoz | augh I need to learn time management so I can start playing again ;p |
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21:54.09 | GER|koaschten | Hmmm Blizzard is ESRB member no? |
21:54.26 | GER|koaschten | http://www.esrb.org/privacy/contact.jsp |
21:54.31 | Gnarfoz | do you have to be to get their ratings? |
21:54.35 | asmodai | Oh cool |
21:54.36 | asmodai | mine too |
21:56.06 | Repo | 10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r8 embeds.xml: |
21:56.07 | Repo | Updated embeds.xml to include AceTimer-3.0. Except it actually works this time. |
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22:00.20 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-55-gb470c86 Frame.lua: [+1 commit] Attempt to make cross-realm alt tradeskill links work again by replacing the GUID portion of the link with that of the current character. |
22:00.21 | asmodai | heuh, level 1 druids already having eclipse? |
22:00.56 | Gnarfoz | what gives you that idea? |
22:01.04 | Gnarfoz | the UI always shows so far, if that's it |
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22:02.09 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmvHQ5FS6m0&hd=1#t=2m20s |
22:02.28 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: http://i.imgur.com/l4Ux2.jpg |
22:02.33 | asmodai | You'll see lunar eclipse proc |
22:02.57 | Gnarfoz | well |
22:03.18 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to fall back "it's beta" |
22:03.36 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-56-gcb322cb .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Turned on the manual changelog. |
22:03.42 | asmodai | Mmm, also solar eclipse |
22:03.50 | asmodai | heh, no random drops for gather quests |
22:04.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 042.0-rc2 * 1d7c41b /: [new tag] Tagging Release Candidate 2 |
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22:13.35 | Repo | Timestamp lines that Blizzard misses for real this time, tweak the channelnames entries to also compact the "you have joined" messages. |
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