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00:00.23Iblise@vhaarr i have those logs for RS if you still want them
00:01.04IbliseAnd I'm having a huge issue with prat, my edit box randomly vanishes and doesn't come back until I click on the chat window.  I'm typing blind a lot of the time
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00:34.25IbliseAny suggestion for my prat issue heh
00:36.06HirsuteWhat was your prat issue?
00:36.54IbliseMy edit box doesn't appear when typing someone
00:37.14IbliseSometimes it does, other times it doesn't and I find myself typing blind
00:37.36Wobinclose your eyes?
00:37.40IbliseIf I click on the chat window and then retry to open the editbox (press enter) it comes back
00:37.52Wobinany other chat addons loaded?
00:37.53HirsuteHrmmm.  No idea.  I've not had that problem.
00:38.17IbliseJust prat for chat addons
00:39.07IbliseI can't figure out what causes it, just that it has a high up time and its really starting to frustrate me
00:39.30IbliseAnd bug sack isn't grabbing any errors either
00:39.40IbliseSo I'm rather clueless
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01:07.00steevdaveIblise: is it switching to a whisper window? or combat log
01:07.06steevdaveor only on the general tab?
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01:48.14Iblise@steevedave - sorry for taking so long
01:48.29IbliseNo switching just don't make the edit box visible on open
01:48.45IbliseIt is open but I can't see anything that is typed in it or the edit box
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02:04.50Repo10lkannounce (experimental): 03Mirrormn * r2 / (86 files in 23 directories): Addon created
02:05.15steevdaveahh
02:05.52steevdaveanyone know wtf is causing me to see "Trial accounts cannot send unlimited tells, you must wait before you can send tells to more players." in battlegrounds? Specially since I'm not talking to anyone
02:08.50Wobinperhaps an addon
02:08.52Wobinthat uses whispers
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02:14.44Repo10grid2statusignored: 03Potje * r2 Grid2StatusIgnored (29 files in 4 directories): Initial revision.
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02:19.13Repo10grid2statusignored: 03Potje * r3 .pkgmeta: Added .pkgmeta file
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02:29.19Repo10grid2statusignored: 03Potje * r5 .pkgmeta: Added Grid2 dependency to .pkgmeta
02:35.55steevdaveugh
02:36.00steevdavehorde are so bad on proudmoore
02:44.52Wobin=(
02:45.04Wobinfrom a pvp perspective?
02:55.39Repo10lkannounce (experimental): 03Mirrormn * r3 LKAnnounce.lua: Fixed the Help button on the Assignments tabs.
02:58.44Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.6.10b-2-g5f5d707 Libs/LibInstanceLootData-1.0/lib.lua: [+1 commit] fix potential problem with the FindItem function
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03:07.59Repo10bettersocialtooltip: 03jebus905 * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Primary Commit
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03:14.55Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.6.10b-4-g9acd84d / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
03:15.09Repo9acd84d: don't display a droprate if its negative (meaning we don't have one)
03:15.11Repobb418ee: fix the fix :P
03:21.19Shefkifix the fix of the fix of the workaround of the hack of the century.
03:26.02Repo10bettersocialtooltip: 03jebus905 * r3 .pkgmeta: Adding Libraries
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03:49.42Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v490-48-g2482c0f / (4 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits]
03:49.44Repo2482c0f: Halion (11): Ticket #161 - Use SPELL_AURA_APPLIED for debuffs
03:49.45Repo87aa81c: Alerts: Add options to scale icon and font sizes with bar height (defaulted on)
03:53.40ShefkiOhh I bet I forgot to put overwrite in.
03:53.46Shefkit
03:53.47Shefkimt
04:00.29steevdaveyes Wobin, pvp in wsg is horrendous (10-19 bracket)
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04:48.33Repo10massmailer: 03Necramar * r69 / (14 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
04:48.35Repo-- Send button should now be properly disabled at login if you open the message window when you aren't at your mailbox.
04:48.36Repo-- Added option to select whether the message window automatically closes when you close your mailbox
04:48.38Repo-- Added an optional Minimap button that gives access to the message window and MassMailer options
04:48.39Repo-- Locale updates
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08:37.56sylvanaarguten morgen
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08:42.20asmodaigoedemorgen sylvanaar
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09:00.34sylvanaarwhats new
09:00.59sylvanaari finally figured out how to download itunes on my mac - dont use safari
09:03.23asmodaihttp://i.imgur.com/k1q3C.jpg
09:03.33asmodaisylvanaar: eh? Why couldn't you download otherwise?
09:09.22sylvanaarthere was no button
09:09.29sylvanaarsafari is messed up
09:09.33asmodai:|
09:09.39sylvanaarisnt that ironic
09:09.57Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2722 / (19 files in 10 directories): another huge constants cleanup
09:10.02sylvanaaronly reason i needed to download though was because i had the 9.1 beta
09:10.08sylvanaarand it expired
09:10.25sylvanaarer 9.2
09:11.41asmodaiah
09:12.57sylvanaari think since it comes preinstalled most people dont need to download it
09:15.04sylvanaarim anxious for the iPad 4.0 beta
09:15.25sylvanaarhope that is soon
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09:23.58asmodaicranks the volume to 11 in the office on Killing in the Name
09:25.29Megalonbecause 11 IS louder!
09:36.47Repo10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r18 / (10 files in 3 directories):
09:36.49RepoWidgets "ListBox" and "ComboBox" has been rewritten for efficiency.
09:36.50RepoNow they can support millions of items and their searching without obvious FPS loss.
09:37.45Repo10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r19 Widgets/Image.lua: minor changes
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09:53.34GER|koaschtenhmmm cata beta in dx11
09:53.36GER|koaschtennifty
10:00.06sbueh
10:00.21Kalrothdx11 water, dx6 the rest
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10:01.48Arrowmasterdoes that mean it wont run on XP anymore?
10:04.11Slarenwow has always had switchable renderers
10:04.27Slarenthey need to keep opengl for macs anyway
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11:05.56asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNEpSaqsFE0#t=03m5s
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11:55.41harlhallo
11:57.43asmodaiheya harl
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12:16.39snk-32'ello there
12:17.05Repo10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0-beta-12 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
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12:17.08Repo635ebdd: Added a /drsupport chat command to check the status of supported addons.
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12:17.12Repobc1bff1: Minor fix in spell list initialization.
12:17.14Repo4945822: Be more perserving when trying to detect supported addon and frames.
12:17.15Repo86af73d: Updated to my latest localization system.
12:17.22Repo10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-12 * 7c0c372 /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.0-beta-12".
12:18.13Sileianyone around who knows their way around custom actionbars and has a minute to help me out with a problem i'm having? :)
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12:19.43Sileispecifically, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626458722&postId=256239737726&sid=1#0        - i just can't get the damn thing to update correctly :(
12:34.32Repo10yata: 03kaytikat * r76 / (9 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
12:34.34RepoFixed for 3.5
12:34.35RepoAdded preliminary Call of xxxx spell support
12:34.37RepoFixed numerous outstanding issues
12:34.38RepoChanged totem listing routine to use built in Blizzard commands instead of LibGratuity and spellbook scraping
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12:53.29Repo10yata: 03kaytikat 04wotlk-beta-0.76 * r77 : Tagging for beta
12:53.44kagaro~seen mangeg
12:53.47purlkagaro: i haven't seen 'mangeg'
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12:54.37asmodaihey kagaro
12:58.01kagaroyo brb
13:04.03kagarook asmodai what up
13:07.05asmodaiNothing much mate
13:07.08asmodaiat owkr, last 2 hours
13:08.03kagaroahh, i just started
13:08.08kagarostarted late this morning
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13:19.06Repo10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-8-g85675c3 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Updated Highlight module to check BN_WHSIPER BN_CONVERSATION
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13:22.10asmodaikagaro: it happens :)
13:22.43kagarowell i bought the wrong icecream last night and didnt realize it till after i got home. forgot to get the lactose free stuff ..
13:23.00kagarobut i ate it anyways
13:23.07asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1  <-- rofl at comment at 07:15
13:25.17kagarolol rapier
13:27.50GER|koaschtenthats
13:27.52GER|koaschtenstupid Kaelten
13:28.01kagaroanyone have transcriptor logs for halion handy?
13:28.02Axodiousis there a website where i can compare various achievements of guild members without having to open each toon in wowarmory?
13:28.13Axodiouslike out of the entire guild who is missing x achievement
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13:32.36KalrothAxodious: like wow achievements?
13:32.54Axodiousjust found that site on google, checking it out now
13:33.48Axodiousother than it can't find my guild :(
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13:34.42Axodiousis there a way to add a guild to this thing?
13:35.38Axodiousnah doesn't look like what i'm looking for
13:36.37Wobinoh dear, it's Mary Poppins =P
13:36.44Silei^^
13:37.19Axodiousmaybe even a mod for it
13:37.43Axodiousjust trying to find a way to make it easier to set up a group for meta achievements ~_~
13:39.04GER|koaschtenAxodious what are you trying to compare?
13:39.06GER|koaschtenaah ok
13:39.13Wobinoh god
13:39.16Wobinthe accent is -terrible-
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13:39.24Sileiif i design me a bar with "SecureHandlerStateTemplate" and add a bunch of childframe buttons ("ActionBarButtonTemplate") that inherit their page attribute from the parent, which in turn is changed based on [bar:2], [bonusbar:2] and all that jazz....how on earth do i force a (working) update on the buttons after the bar gets a new page? seems like the buttons always update right before the bar itself does and then not until the next page-chan
13:40.11asmodaiWobin: :D
13:40.18asmodaiWobin: yeah, he has right to complain
13:41.26Repo10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories):
13:41.28RepoAdded a statusbar to the combobox to show the searching progress
13:41.32asmodaiAxodious: maybe http://www.wowprogress.com/ ?
13:42.53asmodaior maybe http://wow.guildprogress.com/
13:44.37Axodiousdon't think so asmodai :(
13:44.53Axodiousit's weird thought there would have been an addon or site for it
13:44.55Axodiousgues not
13:44.57asmodaiYou want to see all achievements and not raid specific ones?
13:44.57Axodiousguess *
13:45.09Axodiouswell right now specifically
13:45.23Axodioustrying to setup a 10 man guild to get their icc drakes
13:47.02Axodiousso i'm trying to compare everyones achievements for the meta
13:47.42asmodaiwow-achievements seems a bit broken in some way
13:47.44asmodaihttp://www.wow-achievements.com/player/EU/Stormrage/Dionise
13:47.56asmodainot in that guild anymore, nor do I have 0/X ;)
13:48.12Axodiouslol
13:48.25Axodiousmeh i guess i'll setup a forum for it ~_~
13:48.27pentium166make everyone fill out a google spreadsheet
13:48.45Axodiouswell i've been debating putting a forum for our guild cause we're pretty small
13:48.55pentium166assuming you can make publicly editable spreadsheets there
13:48.55Axodiousbut it does have it's benefits regardless
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13:50.18asmodaidocs.google.com
13:50.20asmodai^^
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13:52.02asmodai"Aaaand a guy in a fancy hat."
13:53.46asmodaiWobin: "You're able to give feedback on each quest in the beta. I'd probably go back there and say 'hey, could you please stop your voice actress from sounding terrible and breaking my immersion'."
13:53.50Wobin"I want one of those hats.. apparently you can get one"
13:54.22asmodai"Why is that king so cheerful all of a sudden? Everyone's dead or dying or getting eviscerated or turning into werewolves. Not the best day at the job.
13:54.25asmodai"
13:57.15Wobinthat's actually quite well done
13:57.20WobinI'm very impressed at the starting area
13:57.29Wobinthey now need to fix every other one to be like that
13:59.11asmodaiWobin: *nods*
14:00.50Wobinhe has a very good voice for radio
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14:03.22asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1#t=19m20s
14:03.33asmodaiinteresting change in vehicle UI
14:03.58asmodaiThat will screw up nevcairiel a bit I think
14:04.01asmodaifor bartender
14:04.25steevkagaro: would it be possible to check if an addon like WIM is enabled/in use and not autopopup the whisper window in chat? (or is that something that wim should block?) - i ask because wim has a setting to block the whisper from appearing in chat by default, but the window is still happening, and basically the chat "disappears" because the whisper window is blank
14:05.36steevi want a worgen :(
14:06.02kagaroif they are using WIM they can always just disable the auto whisper windows
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14:06.12kagaroits a config option
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14:06.23steevkagaro: mmmm, maybe my copy of wim is just too old then :)
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14:06.41kagarono i meant in chatter it has an option to turn off auto whisper windows
14:06.50steevoh
14:06.57steevokay ill have to do that when i get home
14:07.28kagaroI had set that to default disabled but wasnt working for some reason
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14:08.50kagaroohh i see why, my bad had wrong name in the defaults
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14:09.36harlwhy does my combat log's chat frame tab get highlighted again and again.. it's annoying me
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14:10.35steevharl: stop going into combat, problem solved
14:12.15kagaroits only supposed to alert flash for whisper or bn_whisper
14:16.07harlhaven't received any kind of whispers today :/
14:16.21kagarothats blizz code setting the tabs to flash
14:19.20kagarohey vhaarr you got any transcriptor logs for Halion?
14:26.35Mikkasmodai: i'm missing something, apparently.. how is that vehicle UI different from now?
14:29.13Sileithe giant flashy "DO THIS NAU!" button in the center of the screen i guess
14:29.19Sileiat least that's the only difference i can spot
14:32.37Mikkbut that's not part of the vehicle ui
14:32.40asmodaiisn't that entire framework around it bigger than we had in wrath?
14:32.42Mikkthat's just their message frame
14:32.54Mikknoo?
14:32.55Mikksame
14:33.10Mikkit's fricking huge :P
14:36.29asmodaiit's huge indeed
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14:41.42Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r509 modules/Editbox.lua:
14:41.44Reposince the useAltKey option was broken forever, people expect the default option to be off, so change it to that.
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15:52.45steevparty time, fisker left
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16:25.20steevwtb cata invite pst
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16:39.07sylvanaarme too
16:39.19GER|koaschtenWHAT THE FLYING FUCK DOES BLIZZARD THINK THEY ARE DOING?!
16:39.23GER|koaschtenwoah oops caps
16:40.01GER|koaschtenhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1
16:40.13durcynthey're killing trolls
16:40.14GER|koaschtenThe first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it.
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16:41.21steevwoot
16:41.26steevno more asshattery
16:41.41durcynif you think that's going to stop asshattery, you're sorely mistaken.
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16:42.09PrimerOne thing I don't get...isn't the Real ID...their login?
16:42.17Primerwell, at least half of it?
16:42.25Primermeaning, all you'd need is their password?
16:42.36Primerto access their account?
16:42.55Megalonthere is a difference between your reallife name and your email you login with
16:43.03nevcairielrealid is your real name
16:43.06nevcairielnot the "id"
16:43.20sbualso you need your authenticator code :p
16:43.24MegalonI think they refer with "Real ID" the whole bnet login system
16:43.34PrimerAuthenticator is for noobs
16:43.51nevcairielI always laugh at people that say that and get their account stolen a week later
16:44.16PrimerI always laugh at people that get their account stolen from doing stupid shit
16:44.52nevcairielAlso, its free and gets me an additional pet
16:44.53sbupr0n is no stupid shit :(
16:45.01sbuyaa, what nevcairiel said
16:45.10durcynyou mean i shouldn't give the same username and password to every porn site in all of kazahkstan?
16:45.22durcyner, same as wow, rather.  feh.
16:45.32marsheni love blizzard so much... not that they forbid us to post on us forums now they force us to even not post on eu forums...
16:46.06durcynanyway, just wait for the inevitable lawsuit, that probably violates several privacy statutes
16:46.17nevcairielI don't think so
16:46.36nevcairielthey don't even have to provide a forum, and as long as old posts dont suddenly show realnames
16:46.42durcynsneaky bastards probably put it in a TOU update months ago though
16:47.13nevcairielYou know that your name shows when you post, so if you post, its your choice. I don't see that violating privacy
16:47.25marshenthe last game company that ive trusted is gone... lets party :/
16:50.09durcynmarshen: Valve?
16:50.17nevcairielAlso, i'm surprised that in the days of twitter and failbook anyone would object to this =P
16:50.44durcyni don't use my real name on twitter, and my facebook account has zero information.
16:51.03nevcairielYour name on some forum doesn't hold much information either
16:51.17nevcairielYou just can't blindly troll anymore =)
16:51.23durcynnever did.
16:51.25asmodainevcairiel: Easy - I also am concious what I post or not post on facebook and/or twitter and/or $RANDOM_SOCIAL_NETWORK_I_MIGHT_BE_ON
16:51.49AckisPRINT $RANDOM_SOCIAL_NETWORK_I_MIGHT_BE_ON
16:51.57asmodaiAckis: Hyves :(
16:52.00nevcairielSo if you are concious what you post on the forums, it'll be better!
16:52.09Ackislol
16:52.24asmodaiIt raises an additional hurdle for both trolling and constructive posting.
16:52.54nevcairielAn argument being that you can't troll anymore .. is trolling in itself and can just be dismissed
16:53.15asmodaiI wonder how many celebrities will now quit WoW.
16:53.20Megalonyou can't troll because there is some random realname?
16:53.22steevprivacy is privacy, whether you have something to hide or not.
16:53.28asmodaiSince effectively they have no cover anymore.
16:53.38nevcairielJust don't post on teh forums :)
16:53.52nevcairielIts not like you have a badge with your realname attached to your char
16:53.54steevasmodai: they would have to post on the forums too though
16:54.05asmodaisteev: I'm sure there's going to be some leak at some point.
16:54.10asmodaiAll social networks go through that.
16:54.22asmodaiAnd it's not like Blizzard's security record is spot clean :P
16:54.29steevany celebrity who can't afford the 6.95 for an authenticator...
16:54.36nevcairielIts not a social network, all they change is the field thats being printed in the forums
16:54.49steevnevcairiel: the issue is they are trying to make it one
16:55.05nevcairielBy using real names? I don't see the social or network part yet =P
16:55.05asmodaiIf you introduce FoaF, it's a social network in my book.
16:55.26nevcairielAnd i thought we were talking about the forums change
16:55.28steevasmodai: thats gonna be the new sig, dont' you know
16:55.59asmodainevcairiel: That's part of the entire RealID system, no?
16:56.00Torhalasmodai: Your Spiced Chili Crab problem is gone.
16:56.02steevblah: friend's with one, two, three, four, <clicky link "friend them now">
16:56.23asmodaiTorhal: Words cannot express how grateful I am. Here, have this rubber chicken.
16:56.46Torhalbonks Ackis on the head with the rubber chicken.
16:56.53nevcairielThe realid system already exists, but suddenly people seem to blame the forum change for all its evil :p
16:56.56asmodaiIt even has a pulley in the middle.
16:57.16jnwhitehwell as it stands its not public
16:57.21jnwhitehforums will make it public
16:57.39jnwhitehpeople who are hiding from their abusive ex-husband won't be able to post on the forums now
16:57.42nevcairielJust because your name shows doesn't make it a social network, or increase the chance of leaks
16:57.43jnwhitehand other classes of people liek that =)
16:58.28asmodaijnwhiteh: like this:
16:58.30asmodaiAs someone who has had negative ingame experiences due to people finding out I'm female (and I'm posting from a low level alt for this reason) I can safely say I won't be posting on the forums at all any more, be it for technical support or for contributing to the server's RP notices.
16:58.31nevcairielAs long as you can't click on people and get soem fancy profile that shows other data and their friends list and all :p
16:58.50jnwhitehno, just having the information out there is really unfortunate
16:59.00jnwhitehso people just won't choose to post on the forums
16:59.08jnwhitehand the trolls will find a way to get around it =)
16:59.20asmodaiI might not like the idea that my name is associated with a game so that potential new employers might find out about it.
16:59.28nevcairielIf they hack the system, they are even more likely to be banned
16:59.40asmodaiThey might, beforehand, conclude I am positive/negative due to playing this game.
16:59.45marshennevcairiel what about companies... would you hire a guy who wrote >150 posts on a world of warcraft or starcraft forum? i wouldnt!
17:00.07asmodaiImagine Fisker
17:00.13asmodaiWith his rages and trolling :P
17:00.14Kalroth"would you date a guy/girl who wrote >150 posts on a world of warcraft or starcraft forum? i wouldnt!"
17:00.15nevcairielmarshen: either people didnt google me or they hired me anyway, i write my name in my addons =p
17:00.20Torhalasmodai: WOuld you really _want_ to work for someone who considered WoW?
17:00.39asmodaiTorhal: I might not even know they looked for this information.
17:00.46asmodaiIn essence, I lose control short of not posting.
17:00.48nevcairielI wouldn't want to work for someone that thinks i'm "bad" just because i play a game
17:01.01Torhalnevcairiel: Exactly.
17:01.11nevcairielHey, i have my activities on wowace in my CV
17:01.24asmodainevcairiel: As if every potential employer will do full disclosure on their decision making process. :P
17:01.25nevcairielwhich kinda implies i play, too
17:01.25KalrothUp next: yellow pages for WoW - linking your WoW profile to your facebook profile to your linkedin profile to your fishyfish profile
17:01.31Kalrothall in the name of science, of course
17:02.07asmodaiKalroth: I'm sure that's going to be piss easy. And already is.
17:02.15nevcairielasmodai: of course not, but if they decline me because of it, even if i dont know its that reason, its still fine with me. (Sure i would feel better when i knew the reason)
17:03.09asmodaiSure, I understand your logical continuation. But sometimes people have preconceived ideas that change over time after being exposed to a gamer like that. :)
17:03.12asmodaiBut hey.
17:03.38asmodaiI just think Blizzard is putting people in a very awkward position here.
17:04.21asmodaiSure, their game and infra, their right.
17:04.37nevcairielThey should simply allow a real-id alias name, which would still fix some of the trolling problems (people can't create lvl 1 chars to troll on), and allow you your privacy
17:05.24asmodaiSeems a more reasonable intermediate step in my opinion.
17:05.57nevcairielWhich would also fix peoples ingame concerns about using realid
17:07.59winknevcairiel: NOOO, that would make SENSE
17:08.30asmodaiHe suffers from it, from time to time.
17:08.42asmodainevcairiel: anyway -- saw those vehicle UI thinghies?
17:08.48nevcairielv-what?
17:09.47asmodainevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpdLsNQJnvc&hd=1#t=19m20s
17:10.13nevcairieltime offset?
17:10.21asmodai19m20s
17:10.51Megalonit should jump automatically to it with that link :x
17:11.13nevcairielmaybe not on the html5/webm version
17:11.31asmodaiah, this is the one for flash at least
17:14.01nevcairielwth is that guy talking about
17:14.06nevcairiel"this is the new interface, veryp olished"
17:14.10nevcairielit looks like that on live
17:14.12nevcairielffs
17:14.33winklol
17:15.38asmodainevcairiel: does it? Haven't seen the latest vehicle ui in a while.
17:15.47nevcairielit does
17:15.49asmodainevcairiel: So no problems there for bt then?
17:15.55asmodaiIncluding the flasks on both sides?
17:16.00nevcairielyes
17:16.05asmodaicool beans
17:16.15nevcairielits 25% broken in BT as it is
17:16.20nevcairielnever finding time to fix it =(
17:17.56asmodai:(
17:22.03PrimerI can't recall who it was here that provided me some scraped dungeon level dimensions.
17:22.41nevcairiel@project libmapdata-1-0
17:22.42Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmapdata-1-0/. LibMapData-1.0. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author). Updated: 25 days ago
17:22.43nevcairieluse that ^
17:22.49Primeractually, I just remembered...I pulled them from DBM
17:22.53PrimerIs that new?
17:22.58nevcairielpretty much
17:23.02Primerthat wasn't available at the time
17:23.42kagaroPrimer:  I keep it updated every patch now with size changes and new areas being added
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17:24.33PrimerI just have a table. Recently, I've found that GetDungeonLevel() (or whatever it's called) returns 0 for a part of ToC
17:24.33GER|koaschtenhaha http://www.twitter.com/BlizzardPR
17:24.33Primerwhen you drop down to Anub's chamber
17:24.33kagaroyes correct
17:24.50Primerbut it's random. It then becomes 2 later
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17:26.58Repob89114c: Use PLAYER_LOGIN instead
17:27.00Repoef0d4b8: Fix for slow loading times, we will now recheck fonts after player enter world
17:27.15kagaroit becomes 2 once you move into his room
17:27.51kagaroLibMapData has a callback you can register for
17:28.34kagaroso it will fire the callback when that happens
17:29.35Primerwhen the dungeon level changes?
17:29.47kagaroyeah it should it listens for the 2 zone change events
17:29.50kagaroerr 3
17:30.11sbukagaro: strange new editbox behaviour, its active for some tabs but hidden (not active) for others
17:30.24kagaroi think yuo get a ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA when you move into his room
17:30.31kagaroor was it ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS
17:30.39kagarosbu:  whch frames?
17:31.27kagaroerr tabs
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17:36.58joekin9anyone looking to start a new  character
17:37.44asmodaio_O
17:38.05nevcairielasmodai: shouldnt you be preparing popcorn and move in front of the tv by now?
17:38.20asmodaicooking dinner ;)
17:38.24asmodaiand will watch a stream
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17:41.57nevcairielYou know one feature of chrome thats sometimes *really* useful
17:42.11nevcairielI have the same magic-bar history on all comps i use it on
17:42.14Repo10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v.1.2.6-15-g0ddba7a Modules/EditBox.lua: [+4 commits]
17:42.15Repo0ddba7a: Fixed oversight on = not being ==
17:42.16Repoe71f4a2: This should be the correct fix now.
17:42.17Repoe1af92f: Reverting fix, it wasnt quite right
17:42.17nevcairielbecause it syncs them on google
17:42.18Repoda92f68: Better fix for fonts on edit box
17:42.19nevcairielso useful
17:43.57asmodainevcairiel: aye, although I use xmarks for that since I switch browsers around a lot for various purposes.
17:44.15nevcairielI wish firefox just had a tool to sync with the google things
17:45.02pompynevcairiel: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
17:45.17nevcairielthat was the pre-chrome era
17:45.28pompyoh llol
17:45.33pompyno longer avail for dld
17:45.36pompydidnt see that
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17:45.57RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mui/. mUI. Xocide (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
17:46.04RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autoinvite-martag/. AutoInvite by Martag. martagwowace (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
17:46.09RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bettersocialtooltip/. BetterSocialTooltip. jebus905 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
17:46.30nevcairielI'm using xmarks as well now, but i think it only syncs bookmarks?
17:46.46nevcairielAnd it stores its stuff on a 3rd party server <.<
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17:47.35pompypasswords too
17:47.46pompyhttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410/
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17:48.46nevcairielI have the chroem addon currently, and its options only talk about bookmarks and open tabs
17:48.48nevcairieloh well
17:48.49asmodainevcairiel: You can set up your own sync server/place
17:49.09asmodaichrome does not support password sync due to missing functionality in the browser, apparently
17:49.41nevcairielOnly place a i really use firefox is at work for firebug, anyway
17:49.53nevcairieland i have a different bookmarks profile
17:51.10nevcairielHm, did the chrome dev channel UI change? I only have one button on the right of the url bar, it used to be two
17:52.23Stanzillayup
17:52.28vithosi read a couple days ago that they were combining the buttons as an optional command line switch
17:52.36nevcairielits kinda nifty
17:52.37vithosbut i guess it's gone live on dev now
17:52.42StanzillaWindows
17:52.42StanzillaConsolidated menu is on by default
17:52.56vithosidk i've been using firefox4 lately. it's impressively faster than 3
17:53.04vithosa lot of bugs in the nightlies of course
17:53.17vithosbut i love me some adblock plus
17:53.38nevcairielI updated my minefield to some 4 version a few days ago
17:53.51nevcairieljust to see how it feels now
17:53.55nevcairielI still like chrome :d
17:54.14nevcairielAdThwart works good enough :)
17:54.22vithosif chrome ever gets real adblocking i'll switch immediately (unless firefox4 is released by then and is much better)
17:54.58vithosi've become spoiled with how much abp is able to cleanup the layout
17:55.01nevcairielIt does use the same filtering engine as adblock plus
17:55.19vithosit uses the same filter list, but it doesn't have the ability to do the same things as abp does
17:55.42vithosthey're trying to fake it now but it's unreliable
17:56.22vithos(referring to blocking before the resource is loaded)
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17:56.50nevcairieldidnt google plan on fixing that
17:57.08joekin9anyone wanna start a new char with recruit a friend send a message to me
17:57.20vithosthey had something in progress on a bug about privacy blacklisting but scrapped it and set the bug to WillNotFix or whatever
17:57.41vithosbut that was scrapping that particular implementation or method
17:57.46vithosthey might still do it later
17:58.00nevcairielthe development is going forward pretty fast, imho
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17:59.21vithosi just hope they're not avoiding the feature to protect their ad revenues
17:59.23nevcairielif FF4 manages to create a decent UI, and improve the address bar to be more like chrome's, i can switch to it :P
17:59.35vithosheh yeah. i hate having the separate search bar
17:59.42Stanzillaadblock for chrome does the blocking before loading thing tho
17:59.44nevcairielI got so used to just type in the address box
17:59.56vithosStanzilla: it tries, but it fails depending on the speed of your computer or something
18:00.03Stanzillaah
18:00.17Stanzillawhat's btw for chrome btw, adblock or adthwart?
18:00.25nevcairieli use adthwart
18:00.32nevcairieluses the adblock plus filters
18:01.07nevcairieli only run like 3 extensions in chrome
18:01.17nevcairieladthwart, flashblock, and google-analytics-optout
18:02.04Stanzillai have some youtube enhancements
18:02.12Stanzillalike auto replay and middle click logo change
18:02.38nevcairieli only go to youtube when someone links me something :p
18:03.01orionshockI use adblock in chrome, and the layout is just fine vithos, is it fubaring it for you?
18:04.07nevcairielanyway! I finally decided what components to get for my HTPC .. now just to order sometime in the next month or so :d
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18:07.08Stanzillathe only thing that bugs all the time are layer ads
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18:07.30Stanzillait sometimes removes the content of them but leaves the layer and background there, so it sits there without a close button <.<
18:07.41nevcairieli had that too, i think
18:08.07vithosorionshock: it's not breaking the page layouts it's just not cleaning them up as well. if i get some time later i might try to find an example but i'm working atm
18:08.12Stanzillahappens all the time and not even a page reload helps
18:10.56asmodai<3
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18:31.31asmodaiheh
18:31.32asmodaiagain
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18:44.38Gnarfoznevcairiel: hardwareversand.de ftw, my HDDs are already on their way
18:44.52Gnarfoz(finally ordered them at 3am or something last night)
18:44.55nevcairielI checked them out, but they didnt have the ram i wanted
18:44.58nevcairielor any comparable ram
18:45.10Gnarfozwell, geizhals.at/de anyway to check out who has what ;)
18:45.15nevcairielyeah
18:45.27GnarfozVV-Computer sadly was like "I'mma trick you"
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18:45.54Gnarfozthe low price they had for the HDDs was linked to the geizhals.at referall code
18:46.02nevcairielmindfactory had all of it for pretty cheap, but actually charging me more money for basic support things that every other job offers for free drove me away
18:46.15nevcairiels/job/shop/
18:46.26Gnarfozand they limit you to 1pc of them then. I deleted the cookies and lost the referer, and bam, +20EUR price.
18:46.37nevcairielyeah many shops do that :(
18:46.45nevcairielwhen you want multiple it sucks
18:46.46Gnarfozthat's actually the first I ever noticed that
18:46.55nevcairielwell if you only want one, its usually great
18:47.08Gnarfozbut hardwareversand hat them at, like +0.40EUR, and didn't use a promotion code
18:47.10nevcairieli had the same problem when i got 4 of the same hdd
18:47.33Gnarfozso hardwareversand for the HDDs and VV for the SSD + the 4in3 mounting modules
18:47.39nevcairielAlthough i'm not absolutely sure what i3 to get
18:47.49Gnarfozwhat are you getting an i3 for? htpc?
18:47.52nevcairielyea
18:47.55GnarfozI see
18:48.09nevcairielBut i want enough power to do software decoding in case the GPU decoding fails
18:48.17GnarfozI've more or less decided to wait until 2011 w/ system upgrade
18:48.27asmodaiwoooo
18:48.28asmodai1-0
18:48.33Gnarfozhaha
18:48.34nevcairiel0-1 actually
18:48.42asmodaiwell, yea
18:48.44Gnarfozwho's "left" and who's "right"?
18:48.49nevcairieluru:ned
18:48.49Gnarfozi.e. who's "hosting"
18:48.52Gnarfozkk
18:49.03Gnarfozlooks more and more like ger:ned finals
18:49.03Gnarfoz;p
18:49.12Gnarfozthat is if someone doesn't fuck up tomorrow
18:49.22nevcairielI think i'll just spend the few euro extra and get the faster i3
18:49.25Gnarfozpoor Mueller :D
18:49.28nevcairieljust to be safe :P
18:50.09GnarfozI'm not really satisified with my e6750 (+8800gtx) anymore, but changing CPU+Mobo+RAM now seems kind of a waste if the next gen is "right around the corner"
18:50.22nevcairielhehe, that was my old comp
18:50.34nevcairielwell, except i had a ts
18:50.36nevcairielgts*
18:50.59nevcairielnow the 6750 is my file server
18:51.03vithosthe next gen is always right around the corner :)
18:51.34Gnarfozvithos: nah, it actually goes through stages from "is not far off" to "right around the corner"
18:51.47Gnarfozalthough admittedly, it being off more than half a year is not really "right around the corner"
18:51.53nevcairielThe i3 is just so attractive with its IGP that can do full hardware video decoding and hdmi audio bitstreaming..
18:52.02Gnarfozif your videos are L4.1, that is
18:52.09Gnarfozor retail blurays
18:52.31nevcairielI dont think i have much L5.1, if any
18:52.54nevcairielbut for that case i'm getting the faster i3 so it can do software decoding
18:53.16vithosi'm eyeing an OCed i5-750 / 5850 to replace my athlon64X2 4400+ / 7800 GTX
18:53.26nevcairielits still a nehalem, and at 3.2ghz dual-core + HT .. it'll do well
18:53.46Gnarfozthat's oversized by a big margin already ;p
18:54.05Gnarfozoh, you're probably on linux, no CoreAVC there ;p
18:54.15nevcairielno coreavc without nvidia
18:54.18Gnarfozwhat
18:54.21Gnarfozcoreavc is cpu.
18:54.30Gnarfozthe gpu decoding part is absolutely superfluous ;p
18:54.35nevcairielthe main selling point of CoreAVC is the CUDA decoding
18:54.38Gnarfozabsolutely not
18:54.40nevcairielin cpu mode its not really much faster
18:54.53nevcairielslightly, sure
18:54.56nevcairielbut not much
18:54.56Gnarfozit is a ton faster than ffmpeg oO
18:55.05Gnarfozunless ffmpeg did a lot of catching up
18:55.12Gnarfozwich they might have
18:55.17nevcairieldunno when you measured
18:55.32nevcairielBut i do own a coreavc license, but i also have a nvidia card now
18:55.33Gnarfozcoreavc v1.3 times or so
18:55.49nevcairielAnd the htpc will of course be windows
18:55.49GnarfozI do, too, but 8800GTX is not one of the cards it can use, sadly
18:55.52nevcairielblurays fail on linux
18:56.15Gnarfoznow, to pick some t-shirts
18:56.25nevcairielthe multithreaded ffmpeg is really doing quite well
18:56.29Gnarfoz"baking is science for hungry people"?
18:56.39nevcairielhehe, QC tshirts
18:56.42Gnarfoz"Sarcasm is JUST GREAT!"? :D
18:57.12Gnarfozhttp://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TO&Category_Code=ALLSHIRTS - a buddy of mine is ordering from them soon, gave me a heads up in case I want anything from there, to save on shipping costs
18:57.24GnarfozSarcasm shirt is a winner for sure
18:58.17nevcairielget "white text on a black shirt"
18:58.21GER|koaschtenHEADSHOT
18:58.27GER|koaschtenwhoops wrong channel
18:58.30GER|koaschten:
18:58.53Gnarfoznevcairiel: nah, I can get that from 3dsupply ;p
18:59.10nevcairiel3dsupply clones QC shirts as well now?
18:59.12Gnarfoznevcairiel: and I favor their "Comic Sans MS 120pt underlined" shirt, if I was going that route
18:59.31GnarfozI thought they had a "white text on a black shirt" for ages, maybe I'm mistaken^^
19:00.54nevcairieli barely have time to wear such shirts anymore :(
19:01.01Gnarfozoh my http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=HIJI-EDWARD&Category_Code=ALLSHIRTS
19:01.15Gnarfozhow awesome is that
19:02.18nevcairielwth is going on in that game
19:02.37Gnarfozwhich game? :D
19:02.40Gnarfozoh, football
19:02.42GnarfozxD
19:03.02asmodainevcairiel: mm?
19:03.14nevcairieleveryone seems to play totally aggressive
19:03.44asmodaiyeah
19:03.51asmodainot the Dutch playstyle :S
19:04.46Torhalslaps asmodai with a rubber chicken, simply because he has one.
19:04.50Torhal:D
19:04.54asmodaiI gave you it!
19:04.57TorhalI know!
19:05.00asmodaiOwww, the pulley, the pulley
19:05.04TorhalHaha
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19:09.56Axodious"i've got this BRILLIANT idea guys! why don't we use everyones REAL NAME on the forums! that would fix those trolls for good!"
19:10.20asmodaicopy pastes the discussion from about 2 hours ago
19:10.38Zyn1-1
19:10.40Zyndeeeeerp goal
19:10.41nevcairielhead over to #wowuidev, they still talk about it
19:11.39Axodiousi was afk installing my AC when they posted
19:11.40Axodious:(
19:11.46Axodiousmissed the good convo
19:12.13asmodaiwas not a good convo
19:12.17asmodainev and me called each other names
19:12.28asmodaiand questioned each other's sexuality and religious background
19:12.41nevcairieli called you asmodai, and you called me nevcairiel, its a thing we have
19:13.02NeoTronI think a new rule is that we need to use real names in IRC
19:13.04NeoTronall IRC
19:13.10NeoTronthat ought to stop irc trolling!
19:13.35asmodainevcairiel: ;)
19:16.15Axodiousto quote my room mate "for only 2$ a month get a battle.net gold account including idprotect!"
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19:25.23kagaroAll posts in the future on the new forum systems will be an opt-in choice and ample warning will be given that you're posting with your real first and last name.
19:25.33kagaroso guess they caved that one real quick
19:26.54NeoTronkagaro: just means you can opt in whether you want to post, or not
19:27.05NeoTroni.e they won't retroactively change posts to use real id
19:28.36Megalonhttp://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ATVI ;o
19:30.16nevcairielcaved what?
19:30.18nevcairielnothing changed
19:30.34nevcairielyou do opt to post
19:30.37nevcairielyou are not forced to :p
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19:37.37GER|koaschtennevcairiel you probably heard about that /run command already that can get your real name using some real ID call. can/does curse/wowace scan for bad "calls" in addons?
19:37.59nevcairielno
19:39.09Gnarfozbut I suggested some weeks ago something like this be implemented
19:39.29nevcairielyou can't scan for stuff like that
19:39.37nevcairielif someone really wants to hide it, he will
19:39.40GnarfozKaelten and jnwhiteh both said that'd be easy to do and they'd think about it
19:39.50nevcairielits just default battle.net chat calls
19:39.58GnarfozI'm aware
19:40.10nevcairielnot any special function, even
19:40.23GER|koaschtencant wait for omen telling me that jimmybobhighthreat is about to pull aggro again ;)
19:40.57Gnarfoz*removes all black shirts from the candidate list*
19:41.27Gnarfozthat's kind of a good way to reduce the number of shirts you're considering
19:41.28Gnarfoz;D
19:41.40nevcairielyou have shirts left now?
19:41.57Gnarfozsure
19:41.59Gnarfoz4
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19:54.36asmodaiimpossible, world cup in session
19:58.05asmodaiwoo
19:58.07asmodai1-2 it seems
19:58.45nevcairielit is
19:59.13asmodairofl, he just lifted his feet up
20:01.24asmodaioh
20:01.25asmodaiagain?
20:01.46asmodaiwooooooooo
20:02.12asmodaioh, prince and wife in the audience
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20:09.18kagarolol @ dutch porn stars
20:10.01Stanzillawhat about them?  
20:10.22kagarothere is one offering a blowjob to all her twitter followers if the dutch win the world cup
20:10.36kagarowell netherlands
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20:10.41kagaroso that should be funny
20:11.08Stanzillabrb moving country
20:11.14kagarorofl
20:11.15orionshocklol
20:11.38kagarostan gets on line at serviing number 5000
20:11.51nevcairielher number of followers is probably increasing by alot now
20:11.57nevcairielalthough i doubt she would go through with it :p
20:12.00kagaroover 5k
20:12.09Megalonhooray 4 pr
20:12.20kagarothats one way to drive traffic to her site
20:16.13asmodaikagaro: not Kim Holland, please
20:16.38kagaroBobbi Eden
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20:22.23asmodai2-4?
20:22.36nevcairiel2:3
20:22.44asmodaiah
20:23.57nevcairielwould've been so awesome if uru made the 3:3 in 94' or so
20:24.04asmodaipffft
20:25.16asmodaiNow come on you silly Germans.
20:25.19asmodaimeet us there.
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20:27.26asmodaibut ffs
20:27.31asmodaishove that vuvuzela up your ass
20:27.48nevcairielhaha
20:27.51nevcairielthats what you get for winning
20:27.54Gnarfozasmodai: Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr, Orange trägt nur die Müllabfuhr...
20:28.10nevcairielhaha
20:28.52asmodaipffft
20:29.11Gnarfozthey're playing that on the fucking radio here, haha
20:29.18nevcairiellol
20:29.21nevcairielwth are you listening to
20:29.22olafskiwhat's mallabfuhr?
20:29.38Gnarfoznevcairiel: SWR3
20:29.40nevcairielgarbage man
20:29.51nevcairielor whatever its properly called in english
20:29.52Gnarfozolafski: garbage truck/the guys operating it
20:30.07Gnarfoznot sure if that directly translates
20:30.16Gnarfoz~x de en Müllabfuhr
20:30.18Gnarfozalways bet on purl
20:30.23Gnarfozoh right
20:30.26Gnarfozno utf8 for purl
20:30.29nevcairiel~x de en muellabfuhr
20:30.39Gnarfozwell, that's... close.
20:30.50nevcairieli remember some song from the simpsons where they used garbage man for the people
20:31.09Gnarfozthe "Muellabfuhr" is the entity, or company, or organization tasked with or responsible for garbage disposal.
20:31.44asmodaiWell
20:31.50asmodaiLets see DE make it to the finals first :P
20:31.53asmodaiTHEN play the song
20:31.53asmodai:P
20:32.09Gnarfozindeed
20:32.20asmodaiAlthough I have little doubt they can whip Spain
20:32.20nevcairielwe'll just eat that betraying octopus and win
20:32.33Gnarfozit's not like I'm a football nut, but apparently it's now allowed to support them just because you're German!
20:32.41asmodaiGnarfoz: ^^
20:32.43Gnarfoznevcairiel: omnomnom
20:32.57asmodaiFuer die Heimat!
20:33.12nevcairielhttp://www.leasticoulddo.com/
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20:33.21nevcairieltodays comic comes to mind
20:33.29asmodaiYeah
20:33.32asmodaiit rocks :)
20:33.45Gnarfozhaha
20:34.14olafskiis my UTF8 wrong or are you posting wrong text gnarfoz? :P
20:34.23Gnarfozolafski: the latter
20:34.25olafskiseems it's mine
20:34.30Gnarfozerr
20:34.33olafskimy own :u doesn't work either
20:34.36Gnarfozwhat, I'm druck, the former
20:34.40Gnarfozdrunk, too
20:34.49olafskiü
20:34.50olafskithere we go
20:34.53asmodaiworks for me
20:34.56nevcairielüöä
20:34.57Gnarfozlooks good
20:35.08asmodaiFür die Heimat!
20:35.08nevcairieljust purls translate feature doesnt like it
20:35.11olafskiyep I accidentally overwrote my putty settings the other day so had to recreate it
20:35.37olafskiI don't care about soccer but the atmosphere in the street here is pretty funny
20:35.43Megalonüöä üöä
20:35.49Megalonhm
20:35.57olafskimaybe I'll watch the finals
20:36.00asmodaiよかったね!
20:36.01olafskiwould be fun if it's against germany
20:36.04Gnarfoznevcairiel: poor purl simply doesn't do utf8
20:36.14Gnarfozolafski: would be more fun if Germany wins
20:36.15Gnarfoz;D
20:36.27nevcairielit does actually send back the utf8 chars.. as ascii chars..
20:36.37olafskithat would be funny yes
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20:37.05Gnarfozthat's because it reads and writes only singlebyte chars, and utf8 is, well, multibyte :D
20:37.42Gnarfozhaha fuck that, even using the android sdk emulator makes me want to buy a modern cell phone right now
20:37.49nevcairiellol
20:38.04nevcairieldidnt you want to get a nexus one?
20:38.07nevcairielnot back in stock yet?
20:38.21GnarfozI did, but since you can't get original google ones anymore, I'm kind of fucked
20:38.35GnarfozI don't want to be tied to Vodafone
20:38.42nevcairielYou could never really get original google ones in .de
20:38.47Gnarfozindeed
20:38.54Gnarfozbut you can't get them from anywhere now, was my point
20:38.59Gnarfozbecause google stopped selling them
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20:39.29Gnarfozjust totally ridiculous that non-contract-bound devices would be subject to Vodafone's whims
20:39.44nevcairielvodafone always does that crap
20:39.56nevcairieltoo bad that only they sell it
20:39.58Gnarfozhuh?
20:40.01Gnarfozwhat crap
20:40.20nevcairielbrand and limit phones
20:40.27Gnarfozthey're neither branded nor limited
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20:40.34Gnarfozthey're delaying the firmware update for random reasons; the point is that they can do that
20:40.37nevcairielso whats your problem now?
20:40.55nevcairielso just get the official firmware if its not a special phone in any way :p
20:40.57Gnarfozbecause it's actually a *slightly* different firmware phone and it'll not accept google's own signed images
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20:41.21Arrowmastercan that be legal?
20:41.29Gnarfozapparently, it can
20:41.35nevcairielwhy wouldn't it be?
20:41.43ShefkiYou can root the phone and put whatever you want on it.
20:41.49Gnarfozwithout unlocking the bootloader, that is; which I might do at *some* point anyway. the bad thing about that is that it's a hardware switch, you can't undo it
20:41.50ShefkiIt just won't take it without rooting.
20:41.53Arrowmasteri thought android contained some GPLv3 code
20:42.02GnarfozShefki: idd, I just tend to not write 4 words per line anymore :p
20:42.02ShefkiArrowmaster: It does.
20:42.04Arrowmasteror LGPLv3
20:42.13ShefkiArrowmaster: It's all v2
20:42.19nevcairielexcept that HTC was evil and has some flag that shows if a phone was rooted, a flag that noone figured out how to reset yet
20:42.23ShefkiArrowmaster: The kernel never adopted v3.
20:42.23Gnarfozthat only means they have to offer the source code, which they probably do. ;)
20:42.27Arrowmasteroh
20:42.30nevcairielso if you ever want support for a broken phone :d
20:42.36Gnarfoznevcairiel: exactly
20:42.36ShefkiSo no TiVo rule in the v2 license.
20:42.43ArrowmasterGnarfoz: no v3 has anti TiVo rules
20:42.45Gnarfozwhat's a TiVo rule?
20:42.57ShefkiGnarfoz: Says they can't lock you out of replacing the software.
20:43.01Gnarfozthey don't
20:43.08Arrowmastersays you basically cant sell hardware with it that doesnt allow the gpl software to be replaced
20:43.13ShefkiThey have to give you everything you need to build and put the software on the device.
20:43.15GnarfozI can still root it, but google then denies warranty.
20:43.32ShefkiGnarfoz: You realize there's a root now that doesn't flag the device as rooted?
20:43.34Gnarfozwhich is google, not Vodafone at work
20:43.35ShefkiFor the N1
20:43.44AntiarcShefki: That hole was closed with FRF91
20:43.51ShefkiAhhh, nm then.
20:44.01GnarfozAntiarc: meh, party pooper; and no Shirik, I didn't ;)
20:44.13nevcairielGnarfoz: you need smart nick completion
20:44.15nevcairiellast spoke order ftw
20:44.16nevcairiel:)
20:44.17ShefkiGnarfoz: Don't you guys have an insurance program for phones with your carrier?
20:44.24Gnarfoznevcairiel: what for? oO
20:44.31nevcairielyou talk to Shirik alot
20:44.38nevcairiel:p
20:44.43Gnarfoznevcairiel: oh, remember, I'm drunk
20:44.47nevcairielheh
20:44.49GnarfozShefki: what good would that do me? and it's a non-contract device
20:44.51durcynnevcairiel: irssi defaults, you mean? =P
20:45.03GnarfozI'm with o2, only Vodafone sells the Nexus One in Germany
20:45.05ShefkiGnarfoz: Doesn't matter if it's a contract device you can still buy insurance.
20:45.13ShefkiYou buy insurance, it breaks they fix it.
20:45.18ShefkiWho cares what Google thinks then.
20:45.20GnarfozI doubt o2 would offer that
20:45.22nevcairielwarranty void when rooted
20:45.27nevcairieldone deal
20:45.31Gnarfozand I doubt Vodafone is selling them to non-customers
20:45.34ShefkiThat's the manufacturers warranty.
20:45.37ShefkiNot the insurance.
20:45.50nevcairielwe don't have "insurance" like that
20:45.58ShefkiInsurance is covering if you break it or lose it or it gets stolen.
20:46.04ShefkiThey don't give a crap what software is on it.
20:46.07Gnarfozwell, that's what important, and I bet you there's some clause excluding rooted phones from such insurance contracts; not that I know of any such offers anyway
20:46.15profalbertThere are shops that offer this kind of insurance i think
20:46.19nevcairielYou go to a insurance company for that
20:46.23nevcairielbut usually shops dont offer that
20:46.25profalbertorthat
20:46.30nevcairielonly very few do
20:46.34Gnarfozwell, that's really not the same at all
20:46.39profalbertI know some online shops that do it for notebooks
20:46.41Gnarfozespecially since I'd have to pay extra for it
20:46.55ShefkiI have insurance on my phone let me find the legal language and see if it says anything about rooted phones, but I doubt it.
20:46.59Gnarfozwhich I wouldn't have to do for the warranty. basically, Vodafone is cheating people out of their warranty. :P
20:47.20nevcairielbecause they delay the firmware? dont be silly =p
20:47.32nevcairielI'm still wiating for my 2.1 service pack release on the milestone as well
20:47.46nevcairielbut i'm unsure if its motorola or o2 causing the delay
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20:48.21Gnarfozwell, maybe they're not; but if they aren't then they're forcing me to follow their update schedule instead of Google's, for no apparent reason
20:48.21nevcairielwant the damn alarm clock to be reliable again
20:48.32Gnarfozand who's to say they won't start actually modifying their firmware
20:48.44nevcairielit apparently is a special firmware already
20:48.47Gnarfozlike exluding tethering or that wifi hotspot feature
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20:49.06nevcairieli have the default DACH firmware on my milestone, but i discovered there actually is a special VF firmware
20:49.11Gnarfoznevcairiel: it's just "european model (controlled by vodafone)" apparently, nothing more
20:49.12nevcairielwhich did puzzle me a bit
20:49.44Gnarfoznot really sure how OTA updating works, but obviously it doesn't pick up Google's updates
20:49.56nevcairielif it has a VF firmware, then no
20:49.58ShefkiLooking at this contract it says nothing about the software on the phone.
20:50.05nevcairieli do get vanilla motorola updates, i think
20:50.24Shefkihttp://shop.sprint.com/en/services/service_repair/phone_protection_services.shtml
20:50.25nevcairielShefki: the point was that eh doesnt want to pay extra for insurance
20:50.27ShefkiThat's what I have.
20:50.36GnarfozShefki: well, good for you, but sadly, we're not in the same country as you. ;) and I personally am not really willing to pay for an insurance just to get my warranty back
20:51.06nevcairielAlso i personally haven't really seen such offers from providers
20:51.13nevcairielbut i havent looked either
20:51.14nevcairielso shrug
20:51.17Gnarfozperhaps I'll at some point see the light and want to get an insurance just to have an insurance, but that's another thing entirely
20:51.38Gnarfoznevcairiel: I think T-Mo offers it for iPhones since the beginning, not entirely sure I got that right, though
20:51.40nevcairielif it breaks, just find some guy with haftpflicht, and have him "drop" it :p
20:52.11ShefkiI'm just trying to provide options to him.
20:52.22ShefkiNot saying the whole rooted phone warranty crap doesn'ts uck.
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20:52.25Gnarfozand that's fine, I'm not saying you're not making sense. :)
20:52.31ShefkiBut I can't entirely blame them either.
20:52.39ShefkiIt's entirely possible to brick a phone doing that stuff.
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20:52.50nevcairielApparently motorola said that people would still have warranty if they rooted the phone, as long as the failure is not root related
20:52.54nevcairielie. you bricking your phone
20:52.59Gnarfozit just irks me because of the whole "well, I want as free a phone as possible, so nexus one sounds really good"
20:53.02Gnarfozthing
20:53.25Shefkinevcairiel: The problem of course is dealing with the people who try to take advantage.
20:53.36Gnarfozisn't it always
20:53.45nevcairielHonestly i dont really have a reason to root my phone right now
20:53.54ShefkiYeah I haven't rooted my EVO.
20:54.00ShefkiThe only thing I'd gain by rooting it is full backups.
20:54.00nevcairielAll i use is some memory manager that requires root
20:54.01Gnarfozjust like nevcairiel said, insurance fraud is just as good. *cough*
20:54.04nevcairielbut i could certainly turn that off
20:54.11ShefkiAnd the stuff I'd be backing up is trivial to put back on it anyway.
20:54.14steevi'd root my phone so i could fap to the console
20:54.25nevcairielsteev: just ssh to another server
20:54.26nevcairielshh
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20:54.59nevcairieli think when i upgrade to 2.2, i won't reapply the root
20:55.14nevcairielbut 2.2 will probably take until august or so =(
20:55.32GnarfozGER|koaschten: haha, I just tried to click the "x" button on your screenshot of the android emu
20:55.37nevcairiellol
20:55.44GER|koaschteni win
20:55.47GnarfozI had the actual app in exactly that spot
20:56.14PrimerAnyone think I'll be able to get Shadowmourne before the next expansion if I complete Frost Infusion this lockout?
20:56.28nevcairielsure, expansion is still half a year out
20:56.36nevcairielwell, not exactly
20:56.38Gnarfozmore than enough time, especially if you kill hardmodes
20:56.41nevcairielbut 4 month or so
20:56.47GER|koaschtenprimer you can roughly get 3-5 shards a reset easily
20:56.51Primeralso consider that my guild sucks and we only do heroic loot ship, and don't have Sind on farm
20:56.59Gnarfozthat reminds me, I should start playing before our second one is done, so I can grab the third
20:57.29Gnarfozstart=resume
20:57.50GER|koaschtenso much for me keeping myself of google, blizzard and their real id... actually, the only way to find me currently is ... know my realname AND twitter handle
20:58.53Gnarfozjust stop posting, it's not like Blizz cares about EU anyway, etc etc.
20:59.56Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r181 / (2 files in 1 directory):
20:59.57RepoMove the function call that allows moving the chat frame to the edge of the screen from the buttons module to the resize_chatframe module.
20:59.57Primer3-5 shards a run...ugh, it's gonna be rough
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21:00.27nevcairiel10 to 15 weeks, gogo
21:01.09PrimerI should have had frost infusion last week, but my stupid guild needed healers to run, so I went on my priest
21:02.23GnarfozGER|koaschten: I know how to find you >:O
21:02.33Gnarfozalso, at least no pics on google of my under my real name
21:02.40GER|koaschtentell me in pm and i tell you if you found me for real ;)
21:03.11GnarfozGER|koaschten: depends on what I should find
21:03.38GnarfozI should have your street address somewhere? :P (or your parents', maybe.)
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21:07.07Gnarfozamazingly, google image search for Gnarfoz only returns random avatars of OTHER people xD
21:07.15Gnarfozfor example, yours GER|koaschten
21:07.53GER|koaschtenw00t?
21:08.11Gnarfozyeah, it has both of us on some wowace addon page commenting on an addon or voting on a ticket
21:08.24GER|koaschtenhaha i upvoted a ticket? ^^
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21:08.39Gnarfozand since avatars are to the left of the name on wowace, but google associates "text  -> image" not the other way around, it thinks your avatar is mine
21:08.57Gnarfozmeh, I should purge google cookies before doing tests like these
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21:09.25GER|koaschtencan't even remember upvoting that unless you told me to :D
21:09.29durcynhardly matters, they have your ass dead to rights by IP and user-agent already
21:09.49Gnarfozdurcyn: IP lol
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21:10.15durcyni didn't know you were a tor-tard?
21:10.18Gnarfozhow is it so hard to recall: people in many parts Europe are all on dynamic IPs
21:10.42durcynyes, yes, you're very smart.  what's your DHCP lease time?
21:10.44GnarfozUA is another story, but that's EFF.org, not google
21:10.50Gnarfozdurcyn: it doesn't even use DHCP.
21:11.01Gnarfozand you get forcibly disconnected every 24hrs
21:11.01GER|koaschtendurcyn 24hours
21:11.27Gnarfozsome ISPs even have that at 12hrs or 8hrs, but those bitches be crazy
21:11.38GER|koaschtenthough actually, i dont get anymore, if i get around to tell my router to stop reconnecting at 5am :D
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21:11.53ShefkiDoes't much matter what your lease time is, I don't know of a DHCP server that won't try to give you the same IP you had before unless they've given it to someone else.
21:11.59Gnarfozyou're not on a DSL ISP anymore either, GER|koaschten
21:12.18GER|koaschtenShefki the fact is, that you get forcibly disconnected
21:12.25GnarfozShefki: indeed; it's still not DHCP though
21:12.28ShefkiAnd as long as you're actively using it you'll just keep renewing the same DHCP.
21:12.34GER|koaschtenand the ip doesn't get released before
21:12.47GER|koaschtenso you can't get it assigned again, or at least i had it never happen
21:13.08Gnarfozyou could possibly get the same IP as you just had, but obviously the chances of that happening randomly are low.
21:13.23ShefkiActually it's really high since DHCP servers are designed to try and do that.
21:13.29durcynbet you ten bucks there's dhcp on the upstream of your CPE
21:13.31ShefkiBecause it prevents breaking the TCP connections.
21:13.40Gnarfozdurcyn: wasn't before, not sure if my new ISP does it
21:13.46GER|koaschtenShefki but it never happend for german providers in the last 10 (?) years?
21:13.48GnarfozShefki: the INTENTION is to break connections.
21:14.04ShefkiWhy would that be the intention?
21:14.16Gnarfozbecause they don't want consumer customers running servers at home
21:14.31ShefkiThey can't stop that by changing IP addresses.
21:14.32GER|koaschtento discourage using it as a real leased line with static ip and stuff and to at least get a handle on those torrent bastards ;)
21:14.36ShefkiThat's what Dynamic DNS is for.
21:14.52GER|koaschtenShefki sure, but it makes it harder / more inconvenient
21:14.53GnarfozShefki: it's in their TOS, too, btw
21:14.57durcynrotating addresses has fuck-all for effect on torrent traffic
21:15.20durcynif anything it's worse, since you get backscatter at the old IP
21:15.22Gnarfozdurcyn: it's not about p2p, he's wrong about that
21:15.32GER|koaschtendurcyn actually, you have to reconnect to the tracker, reconnect to all clients and work through the other clients queues to transfer data again.
21:15.43GnarfozGER|koaschten: that takes about 1 minute
21:15.50durcynyes, i know how bittorrent works.  the ramp-up time is negligible.
21:16.14ShefkiYou guys have shity ISPs.  That's what I'm going to conclude.
21:16.26GnarfozShefki: it's been that way for as long as broadband has existed here.
21:16.30ShefkiAnd if you're relying on  your shitty ISP to protect your privacy you're really nuts.
21:16.35Gnarfozprivacy? lol
21:16.40GER|koaschtenat least they dont rape us with fixed download caps and 100+ bucks a month ;)
21:16.41Gnarfozwe have fucking LAWS against that.
21:17.08ShefkiWe have laws against murder, people still get murdered.
21:17.08durcyni believe the assertion was "google wouldn't possibly associate any traffic from an address with the last account that was logged in from it", which is dubious at best.
21:17.11Gnarfozand I'm not kidding, ISPs being forced by law to give out IP<->customer<->time association data.
21:17.47Gnarfoznot too long ago, it was considered against privacy laws for them to even save that data
21:17.56Gnarfozit's the opposite now, :F
21:18.04nevcairielvorratsdatenspeicherung was abandoned again
21:18.10ShefkiIt's worth pointing out that you  have competing government interests.
21:18.14durcynalso, i'm rather convinced that you need to seek psychiatric help for your propensity for ranting about ISPs, Gnarfoz
21:18.15Gnarfoznevcairiel: abandoned != what happened
21:18.18ShefkiLaw Enforcement is pushing for them to save fucking everything.
21:18.29ShefkiOther people are pushing for them not to save anything.
21:18.43Gnarfozdurcyn: your baseless assumptions about what google does or doesn't do don't let you look much better, tbh
21:19.04GnarfozShefki: sadly, the "other people" are not the guys in power
21:19.11ShefkiExactly.
21:19.18Gnarfozthey'll just do it again via EU this time
21:19.26Gnarfozlike they always do
21:19.49Megalonyea, they'll vote for it in the EU
21:19.52ShefkiSo it really doesn't matter if your ip changes every hour, they almost certainly have a log.
21:20.04Megalonand then they'll say "we can't do anything, it is from the EU!!11"
21:20.05Gnarfozdurcyn: also, since when do I have a "propensity" for ranting about ISPs? assuming that means I'm inclined to do it more often than the average person
21:21.14durcynGnarfoz: you went off on a tangent, i commented on it, let's leave it at that
21:21.16Gnarfozalso, I said "log out" and "clear cookies" and indeed that did change my search results. you were the one getting IPs into this in the first place.
21:22.11durcynnext time maybe "it's been my experience that they don't do that", to which I'll reply with "oh, okay" and go about my business
21:22.17Gnarfoz(it would seem that IPs and UAs were the tangential thing; I concede that, had I not picked up upon that, we'd probably done with the topic already ;P)
21:22.30durcynso, how about that world cup
21:22.36Gnarfozit's tasty
21:22.37Gnarfoz:D
21:22.57durcyni should've put money on germany weeks ago
21:23.17GER|koaschteni should have bought that flatpanel tv last friday
21:23.23Gnarfozshould've put some money into germany weeks ago, maybe we'd not be this fucking broke, then ;D
21:23.28GER|koaschtentaking the retailers bet of money back if they win the wc
21:23.40nevcairielyeah, that would've been awesome now
21:23.48Gnarfozthat's how betting goes
21:23.49Gnarfoz:D
21:24.00GER|koaschtennevcairiel i stood inside a mediamarkt and pondering just taking out a 650eu flatpanel anyway :/
21:25.03Gnarfozmeh, my flickr profile is on page 1 of results. at least none of the pics have me in them.
21:25.18GER|koaschtenbtw i can't wait for seeing comic strips associating the BP oil spill with Blizzard Real ID and both going down in bankrupcy
21:25.21Gnarfozcould probably turn them non-public now anyway, those have served their purpose anyway
21:25.31GnarfozGER|koaschten: too bad BP will not go bankrupt :(
21:27.21nevcairielI want to get a new flat panel as well, except, i currently have no room for it, and i'm only moving into the new place in september
21:27.25Gnarfozwhee okcupid profiles are publically indexable?!
21:27.29nevcairielso buying it now seemed really like a waste
21:27.41nevcairieland i really didnt expect ger to win :p
21:27.53Gnarfozit's not like they have any relevant european userbase anyway, let's hope they have a "delete account" button
21:28.18nevcairielinternational online dating, eh
21:28.44Gnarfoztheir page and the matching engine seems really sophisticated
21:28.58Gnarfozbut as these things so, not having a userbase in the desired region trumps that
21:29.11nevcairielinteresting, you used your nick as the handle there
21:30.18Gnarfoznevcairiel: try reloading plx?
21:30.27Stanzilla25 / M / Straight
21:30.29Stanzillayeah right!
21:30.31nevcairielits gone
21:30.40Repo10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-54-g48fa498 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
21:30.42Repo48fa498: Updated the Changelog.
21:30.43Repoe3746d3: Removed a line in the in-game documentation which indicates that the GUI is a recent addition.
21:30.44Repo6a257aa: List entries of the types "World Drop" or "Custom" will no longer show a tooltip hint for creating waypoints.
21:30.51Gnarfoznevcairiel: at least that works as I'd expect ;D
21:31.01GnarfozStanzilla: I obviously have the hots for you
21:31.06Stanzillazomg
21:31.08Gnarfozlet's meet
21:31.53Gnarfozhaha
21:31.54Gnarfozhttp://www.stepmap.de/landkarte/community-of-st-cuthbert-w-o-text-1-15070
21:31.58Stanzillai could send you fisker
21:32.07Gnarfozdidn't expect to stumple upon that with a simple search of "gnarfoz"
21:35.07Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r4 / (11 files in 9 directories): Changed timing to AceTimer-3.0
21:35.09RepoIncluded .pkgmeta
21:35.46Repo10mui (experimental): 03Xocide 07master * 0211a66 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] First commit
21:36.38Gnarfozalso, my Ohloh profile is probably useless
21:37.27Stanzillagood that my nick is used by millions of people \o/
21:37.57Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r5 libs/: Deleted libs folder
21:39.07Gnarfozmeh, ohloh only does account deletions via email request, that's kind of not modern
21:39.54pentium166sounds like xbox live, can't remove a recurring subscription unless you call them
21:40.25Gnarfozthat sounds like money is involved, which makes it a bit different imho
21:41.08GnarfozI guess letting the account rot with personal details removed is not that bad
21:41.36Gnarfozso how do I go about buying a car when I don't have a car to go look at cars? :p
21:41.43Gnarfozstill haven't solved that problem
21:42.39vhaarrkagaro: if you have any good logs then send away
21:42.47Gnarfozjust like the "dang, done cooking, if I do the dishes (except the one the food is on) right now, the food will be cold until I'm ready to eat it. But if I eat first, then I won't do the dishes as soon as I'm done eating." problem :D
21:44.15Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r6 .pkgmeta: Updated .pkgmeta to include AceTimer-3.0
21:44.18Gnarfozgetting a microwave oven would be workaround, but somehow it doesn't feel right to put a freshly cooked meal where pre-made stuff usually goes. ;p
21:44.45GER|koaschtenhmm real ID on slashdot
21:45.01GER|koaschtencan we slashdot blizzard? that'd be fun
21:45.54Gnarfozslashdot their forums simply through pageviews, hmm not sure what the numbers are on that
21:46.23Gnarfoztheir huge-ass tomcat based XML website sounds like a better bet, haha
21:46.38Arrowmasterforums use tomcat too
21:46.46GER|koaschtenwas about to say that :D
21:47.04Arrowmasteri found the exact software they used once because of the traceback on an error page but i forgot what it was
21:47.24Gnarfoz"shit 1.3"?
21:48.42Gnarfozhaha dang
21:49.05Gnarfozgot a debian package bug where I used my gmail address with my real name as the sender
21:49.22Gnarfoznot going to be able to get rid of that any time soon
21:50.22Stanzilla24h maintenance sez: hi
21:51.58GnarfozStanzilla: it doz?
21:51.59Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r7 embeds.xml: Updated embeds.xml to include AceTimer-3.0
21:52.03Gnarfoz~wowalert
21:52.04purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
21:52.06StanzillaGnarfoz: yez
21:52.18Gnarfozcool, my realm, too, apparently
21:52.42Gnarfozaugh I need to learn time management so I can start playing again ;p
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21:54.09GER|koaschtenHmmm Blizzard is ESRB member no?
21:54.26GER|koaschtenhttp://www.esrb.org/privacy/contact.jsp
21:54.31Gnarfozdo you have to be to get their ratings?
21:54.35asmodaiOh cool
21:54.36asmodaimine too
21:56.06Repo10lkannounce: 03Mirrormn * r8 embeds.xml:
21:56.07RepoUpdated embeds.xml to include AceTimer-3.0. Except it actually works this time.
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22:00.21asmodaiheuh, level 1 druids already having eclipse?
22:00.56Gnarfozwhat gives you that idea?
22:01.04Gnarfozthe UI always shows so far, if that's it
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22:02.09asmodaiGnarfoz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmvHQ5FS6m0&hd=1#t=2m20s
22:02.28Gnarfozasmodai: http://i.imgur.com/l4Ux2.jpg
22:02.33asmodaiYou'll see lunar eclipse proc
22:02.57Gnarfozwell
22:03.18GnarfozI'll have to fall back "it's beta"
22:03.36Repo10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-56-gcb322cb .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Turned on the manual changelog.
22:03.42asmodaiMmm, also solar eclipse
22:03.50asmodaiheh, no random drops for gather quests
22:04.11Repo10arl: 03Torhal 042.0-rc2 * 1d7c41b /: [new tag] Tagging Release Candidate 2
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