| 00:02.43 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7495 BigWigs.toc: bump version |
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| 00:05.30 | Ingela | Antiarc, is there someway i can move the social button with chatter? |
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| 00:06.09 | Gnarfoz | same question for Prat! |
| 00:06.17 | Gnarfoz | meh, sylv was around earlier :( |
| 00:06.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7496 * r7496 : Tagging as r7496 |
| 00:07.00 | Funkeh` | screw the social button |
| 00:07.05 | Ingela | ok |
| 00:07.07 | Funkeh` | i just remove it in bcm |
| 00:07.08 | Ingela | how do i hide it? |
| 00:07.08 | Ingela | :P |
| 00:07.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7497 Northrend/Halion.lua: Clean up a bit. |
| 00:07.25 | Funkeh` | err |
| 00:07.27 | Funkeh` | moment |
| 00:07.46 | Funkeh` | FriendsMicroButton:Hide() |
| 00:08.13 | Ingela | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/hide-chat-social-button.aspx |
| 00:08.21 | Funkeh` | ........ |
| 00:08.25 | Ingela | :d |
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| 00:08.54 | Funkeh` | That's just useless considering nearly every chat addon is doing it |
| 00:09.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7498 Citadel (4 files in 1 directory): Add a frenzy warning for the phase 1 adds. |
| 00:09.24 | vhaarr | god dammit I need to stop committing late night |
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| 00:10.55 | Funkeh` | apparently my tag was a beta, great |
| 00:11.33 | ben | Do you guys still have ace newbie tutorials/walkthroughs somewhere? |
| 00:11.46 | Funkeh` | yeah there's faq's up |
| 00:12.01 | Funkeh` | http://kb.wowace.com/ |
| 00:13.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7499 Citadel (3 files in 1 directory): Unfuck last commit. |
| 00:14.56 | ben | Ah, I was looking for something around "okay i know lua, how do i build neat addons", not so much about the ace site yet |
| 00:15.31 | Primer | "Hey! This is Unix! I know Unix!" |
| 00:16.03 | ben | I have written a bunch of throwaway addon-ish things but I really need to figure out how this whole framework thing works :| |
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| 00:16.34 | Primer | I recommend using Ace3 |
| 00:16.34 | Torhal | watches as a raptor eats Primer. |
| 00:17.05 | Torhal | ben: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/ |
| 00:17.11 | ben | Ah |
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| 00:17.32 | ben | Out of curiosity, do they have viable alternatives to Ace3 these days? |
| 00:17.32 | Iblise | Is anyone familiar with what the Bigwigs Halion mod works with cutters. Can it track cutter timing when outside the shadow realm. And any chance it does a voice over the activation of the cutters? |
| 00:17.38 | ben | I vaguely recall a schism a few years ago |
| 00:17.47 | Ingela | lol no |
| 00:17.50 | Ingela | ace3 > all |
| 00:17.56 | Torhal | Rock is dead. |
| 00:17.57 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7500-release * r7500 : Tagging as r7500-release for real this time. |
| 00:18.01 | Torhal | As in, LibRock |
| 00:18.05 | ben | That makes it easier. |
| 00:20.19 | Wobin | patience wins out in the end |
| 00:20.51 | vhaarr | Iblise: do you know if the other team outside gets the emote he does inside? |
| 00:21.08 | vhaarr | I am guessing they do not |
| 00:21.18 | Iblise | I've always went directly in last night as melee |
| 00:21.26 | vhaarr | I have only been inside as well |
| 00:21.35 | ben | Me too :( |
| 00:21.54 | Iblise | Was hoping there was a way, as we a had a lot of deaths as people zoned in as cutters started |
| 00:22.29 | kagaro | outside of twilight realm see nothing about inside |
| 00:22.41 | kagaro | and vice versa |
| 00:22.47 | kagaro | no emotes or warnings |
| 00:22.48 | Iblise | basically ended up stopping the range from zoning if the cutters were due to activate, 4 orbs honestly makes for a good kill zone |
| 00:23.09 | Iblise | I dont suppose there is a way to sync with someone on the other side? |
| 00:23.25 | vhaarr | yeah there is |
| 00:23.47 | vhaarr | bw provides an easy API for it |
| 00:24.43 | Iblise | Heh, now we just need someone to script it |
| 00:24.46 | vhaarr | but really what you are worried about is only the first laser show after 75% |
| 00:24.49 | vhaarr | right? |
| 00:25.17 | Iblise | yeah first laser show is the one where ranged could die as they zone |
| 00:25.30 | vhaarr | I am not sure if that is timed by him reaching 75% or by engaging halion inside |
| 00:25.32 | Iblise | they should never be rezoning back in after that |
| 00:25.33 | vhaarr | but I think it's the former |
| 00:25.53 | vhaarr | in which case no syncing would be needed, you just need to time it |
| 00:25.58 | Iblise | I figured it was a timer that started |
| 00:26.20 | Iblise | I'm never first in, but i assume that hes activate as soon someone zones in, or do you have to engage him |
| 00:26.24 | vhaarr | and start that timer on whatever emote/yell he puts out at 75% |
| 00:26.31 | vhaarr | you have to engage |
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| 00:27.13 | Iblise | alright then how do people outside know when the beams are activating if they haven't zoned in, nothing for them to time |
| 00:27.24 | vhaarr | just read everything I said again |
| 00:27.35 | vhaarr | last 7 minutes |
| 00:27.56 | Iblise | oh i get you |
| 00:28.36 | Iblise | I figured that the beams wouldn't start until you engaged him, rather then a set time interval |
| 00:28.51 | vhaarr | it's 99% sure a set interval from when he reaches 75% |
| 00:29.00 | vhaarr | and not based on when he is engaged |
| 00:29.07 | Iblise | Then yeah, that would be easy to track |
| 00:29.09 | vhaarr | so, time that for me, and I will add it |
| 00:29.17 | vhaarr | unless someone did already and you failed to update |
| 00:29.41 | Iblise | I've updated, I just have no idea if the timer works inside and out currently |
| 00:30.07 | vhaarr | the first timer, you mean |
| 00:30.11 | Iblise | I will in ~hr when raid starts, I'll be tanking adds tonight so I'll be zoning very late |
| 00:30.44 | Iblise | Correct if the timer starts as soon as the boss reaches 75% |
| 00:30.53 | vhaarr | it most likely does |
| 00:31.05 | Iblise | I'll go through our logs in a minute, just need to grab food off bbq |
| 00:38.58 | Iblise | Actually I have no idea what I can look for in our logs, there is an entry every time someone dies to it, but not when they do their emote |
| 00:39.10 | vhaarr | that's why we have Transcriptor |
| 00:39.24 | Iblise | eh? |
| 00:39.34 | vhaarr | @describe wowace/Transcriptor |
| 00:39.34 | Repo | vhaarr: No project found that matches 'wowace/transcriptor' |
| 00:39.36 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 00:39.43 | vhaarr | I don't know this syntax |
| 00:39.52 | Gnarfoz | @describe transcriptor |
| 00:39.56 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/transcriptor/. Transcriptor. Logging utility for boss encounters. |
| 00:40.44 | Iblise | Is there a command line to start logging? |
| 00:40.52 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.10 | vhaarr | note that it logs the whole combat log by default, which you can turn off from the LDB plugin |
| 00:41.21 | vhaarr | I believe, or perhaps it was turned off by default, I forget |
| 00:42.01 | Iblise | I'll run it tonight during raid, unforunately I'll be on top usually so i won't see the emote, last night the top sometimes managed to zone in early |
| 00:42.15 | Iblise | so i might get a good couple of logs |
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| 00:51.48 | Iblise | i have monster emote, raid warning, boss emote, combat log event unfiltered, engage unit, bigwigs msg |
| 00:52.05 | vhaarr | everything should be logged except combat log event |
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| 00:52.31 | vhaarr | if you log that with /combatlog anyway, I mean |
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| 01:16.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7501 Citadel/LichKing.lua: |
| 01:16.33 | Repo | Add in some drycoded stuff to predict when shamblers will frenzy and such. |
| 01:17.03 | ben | Did anyone document all the realid stuff like BNet_GetPresenceID yet? |
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| 01:21.59 | Funkeh` | dunno |
| 01:22.08 | Funkeh` | possibly wowwiki/wowprogramming |
| 01:33.14 | Funkeh` | err wait a minute |
| 01:33.28 | Funkeh` | how do I stop real ID friends from seeing my Real ID friends list? |
| 01:33.35 | arkanes | Funkeh`: you can't |
| 01:33.40 | Funkeh` | the fuck |
| 01:33.47 | arkanes | Funkeh`: it's like facebook! |
| 01:33.55 | arkanes | (social networking is the future) |
| 01:33.57 | Funkeh` | but i can thide it on facebook |
| 01:34.02 | Odlaw | that feature coming to you for $10/month |
| 01:34.03 | Funkeh` | or rather only show mutual friends |
| 01:34.15 | Funkeh` | rofl Odlaw |
| 01:34.24 | Odlaw | invis is $15/mo |
| 01:34.42 | Funkeh` | this is somewhat retarded |
| 01:35.15 | Odlaw | last thing i want is my realid friend asking me 'hey.. come help me move.. you are just playing wow' |
| 01:37.13 | harl | so the middle button's value is 1 instead of 4 |
| 01:37.25 | harl | oops, wrong window |
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| 02:00.35 | Torhal | Foof |
| 02:00.51 | Xinhuan | dun dun dun.... 524 mb patch from alpha to beta |
| 02:04.56 | quiescens | kabooms~ |
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| 02:27.55 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 02:30.04 | Xinhuan | you forgot the / |
| 02:33.22 | bluspacecow | o/ ? |
| 02:33.38 | pompy | \o/ |
| 02:34.47 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v490-39-ge226ab2 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 02:34.49 | Repo | e226ab2: Halion (4): Adjust Twilight Cutter text. Change cooldowns to dropdown type. |
| 02:34.50 | Repo | 32758f6: Invoker: Fix erroring when set to default encounter |
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| 03:16.29 | harl | (y) |
| 03:17.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Starinnia * r7502 Northrend/Halion.lua: |
| 03:17.23 | Repo | Northrend/Halion: add 10 man spellIds for breaths and meteor |
| 03:20.25 | Niv | Antiarc: 10x Chatter-1.0\Modules\ChatFont.lua:175: attempt to index local 'prof' (a nil value) |
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| 03:32.11 | Repo | 10vamp: 03Allara 04r103-release * r105 : Tagging as r103-release |
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| 03:46.28 | Shadowed | Hrm |
| 03:46.32 | Shadowed | Does anyone know how wowace handles branches |
| 03:46.40 | Shadowed | I assume if you branch something, they don't get packaged |
| 03:46.51 | Shadowed | so people have to pull them manually through git |
| 03:51.22 | Shefki | Right. |
| 03:51.28 | Shadowed | new project it is |
| 03:51.36 | Shefki | You can fork with a seperate repo |
| 03:51.40 | Shefki | And that will get packaged. |
| 03:51.54 | Shadowed | Hrm? What do you mean |
| 03:52.02 | Shefki | Go to your repo page. |
| 03:52.08 | Shadowed | My understanding is it's still linear, so if you have a CC only version it'll show taht as the latest then |
| 03:52.09 | Shadowed | that* |
| 03:52.19 | Shefki | Right CC won't show it. |
| 03:52.21 | Shefki | But it'll be packaged. |
| 03:52.28 | Shefki | And you can point people to the wowace page. |
| 03:52.35 | Shefki | If you want CC support you need a new project. |
| 03:57.52 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.2.12-2-g3892a24 modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixing a bug when anchoring one aura group to another, and the other group is not shown |
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| 04:19.37 | Superfly_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.43 | Superfly_ | wrong channel |
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| 04:28.03 | bluspaceCat | cd C:/Windows |
| 04:28.12 | bluspaceCat | del /r *.* |
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| 04:49.34 | Superfly_ | could be, but linux doesnt support del /r, so bad luck |
| 04:53.02 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/awbags/. AWbags. satanica998 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 04:53.08 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbnaddonmsg-1-0/. LibBNAddonMsg-1.0. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 04:54.49 | Shadowed | what |
| 04:56.50 | asmodai | Shadowed: oh btw |
| 04:56.59 | asmodai | Shadowed: had a funny thing with EG |
| 04:57.02 | Shadowed | ? |
| 04:57.07 | asmodai | moment, fixing screenie |
| 04:58.49 | asmodai | Shadowed: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/eg.png |
| 04:59.12 | Shadowed | Hrm |
| 04:59.29 | asmodai | Shadowed: happened on this toon first time after I logged in after the patch/maintenance |
| 04:59.34 | Shadowed | weird did I forget to run the localization scraper |
| 04:59.45 | Shadowed | are you pulling from git or something |
| 05:00.03 | asmodai | CC4 - let me check to see what my setting is, whether alpha, beta or release |
| 05:00.32 | Shadowed | Yea it definitely ran the localization scraper |
| 05:00.39 | Shadowed | It's http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/localization/enUS/?search=gearscore that message |
| 05:00.46 | Shadowed | but you should see it |
| 05:01.10 | asmodai | Shadowed: v.1.7.5 |
| 05:01.15 | Shadowed | I blame you! |
| 05:01.20 | asmodai | :( |
| 05:01.30 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.47 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure it's something weird you did, but I'll find out |
| 05:01.56 | asmodai | Shadowed: only thing that happened |
| 05:02.03 | Shadowed | well or better yet |
| 05:02.05 | asmodai | Shadowed: is that I forgot to check "load out of date" |
| 05:02.07 | Shadowed | are you logged in right now and able to reload? |
| 05:02.13 | asmodai | this was last night |
| 05:02.23 | Shadowed | The question still stands :P |
| 05:02.25 | asmodai | I can log in again if you want me to check something |
| 05:02.34 | Shadowed | no don't worry about it |
| 05:02.43 | asmodai | Easily done |
| 05:02.48 | Shadowed | It's not really a big deal :p |
| 05:02.56 | asmodai | doesn't mind following up on what he starts :P |
| 05:03.26 | Shadowed | There isn't much to follow up on, I basically blame some weird thing and you, since I haven't heard other reports yet! |
| 05:03.40 | asmodai | runs off crying |
| 05:05.00 | Torhal | Shadowed: It happened to me too...I remembered you saying there was now a popup that said to uninstall GearScore, so I figured you messed up the logic since I don't have GearScore installed |
| 05:05.11 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 05:05.14 | Shadowed | hang on |
| 05:05.15 | Torhal | No GearScore == no message, but popup box |
| 05:05.22 | Shadowed | No, it wasn't based on Gearscore logic |
| 05:05.27 | Torhal | Foof. |
| 05:05.29 | Shadowed | I know one person got it fine |
| 05:05.29 | Shadowed | weird |
| 05:05.43 | Shadowed | Did you update via CC4 too? |
| 05:05.50 | Torhal | That's exactly how it looked for me, too. |
| 05:05.52 | Torhal | Nope - Linux |
| 05:05.55 | asmodai | ok, logged in now |
| 05:06.10 | Torhal | It only happened once, and I would have reported it if I wasn't testing new code. |
| 05:06.24 | Shadowed | Type /script ElitistGroupDB.reportedThrottle = nil and reload asmodai |
| 05:07.39 | Shadowed | ok |
| 05:07.43 | Shadowed | I guess I didn't rerun the scraper |
| 05:07.44 | Shadowed | OOPS |
| 05:07.58 | asmodai | yup |
| 05:07.59 | asmodai | that's it |
| 05:08.04 | asmodai | same empty box |
| 05:08.34 | Shadowed | Weird I don't remember changing it again |
| 05:08.54 | asmodai | shifts blame back |
| 05:09.19 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.5-1-g9e4c7bc ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the reported message when loading EA |
| 05:09.28 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.7.6 * af539fb /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.7.6 |
| 05:09.54 | asmodai | could pull a Fisker but I ain't that kind of guy |
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| 05:27.06 | asmodai | Shadowed: cheers btw ^^ |
| 05:27.10 | Shadowed | no problem |
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| 05:38.03 | asmodai | http://cata.wowhead.com/ <-- cute logo change though |
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| 06:03.55 | MysticalOS | hmm i gotta mess with halion again. meteor strike doesn't fire until it already hit the ground, gonna have to use a yell trigger for the cast. More localizing, sigh |
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| 06:23.32 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 2.0-rc1-25-g0b5e6d8 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 06:23.34 | Repo | 0b5e6d8: Only debug-print 0x, 0y coords for non-instance locations. |
| 06:23.35 | Repo | 9b288e5: Fixed continent-zone assignments for waypoints - this was the root issue behind ticket #1023. |
| 06:23.36 | Repo | a6e517c: Renamed all of the continent-zone tables from "c1", "c2", etc to more meaningful things like "KALIMDOR_ZONES" so I can fix the copypasta mess which is the waypoint code. |
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| 07:26.29 | evl | Can crushing blows crit? |
| 07:27.35 | Shadowed | No evl |
| 07:30.18 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe * r135 / (2 files in 1 directory): removed the 0.99 secs from timers |
| 07:31.08 | asmodai | Cute, since the Tour de France starts in my city tomorrow, they cancelled my tram line until 13:00. |
| 07:31.26 | asmodai | envisions a day working at home |
| 07:31.33 | evl | baguetteland punishes your train for 13456 damagè |
| 07:32.49 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.31 * r136 : Tagging as 3.31 |
| 07:33.02 | asmodai | s/train/tram/ |
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| 08:22.56 | Repo | 10libbnaddonmsg-1-0 (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r3 LibBNAddonMsg-1.0.lua: hide outgoing messages |
| 08:24.29 | Xinhuan | whats the purpose of that lib? |
| 08:31.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7503 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
| 08:34.08 | pompy | @describe libbnaddonmsg-1-0 |
| 08:34.11 | Repo | pompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbnaddonmsg-1-0/. LibBNAddonMsg-1.0. A library designed to generalize sending of pseudo-addon-messages over the battle.net real id system.See the API page for det... |
| 08:35.10 | Xinhuan | sounds like it has major problems to overcome |
| 08:36.46 | Xinhuan | in determining whether the target has the same lib installed quietly |
| 08:38.19 | asmodai | rofl, 2 months after bringing out their Kin phones, Microsoft removed them from the market. |
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| 08:42.43 | CodeRedLin | Does Recount post to RealID names? |
| 08:43.28 | CodeRedLin | When I crit Spider for 20k I want to spam people with it. |
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| 08:44.34 | Xinhuan | oh god, imagine if recount can broadcast to RealID |
| 08:44.40 | Xinhuan | to all friends |
| 08:44.41 | CodeRedLin | I was just thinking that |
| 08:44.43 | CodeRedLin | lol |
| 08:44.54 | CodeRedLin | That is it .... |
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| 08:45.02 | CodeRedLin | Project assigned. |
| 08:48.01 | asmodai | Oh lord |
| 08:48.13 | asmodai | Or imagine if you get a new drop and your GearScore gets higher |
| 08:48.31 | asmodai | Shit, we discovered the Mafia Wars and FarmVilles of WoW :( |
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| 08:51.49 | Megalon | [click here if you want the same drop] |
| 08:53.33 | Repo | 10gnomeworks: 03lilsparky * r39 / (7 files in 1 directory): honestly, i can't remember what's new in this one |
| 08:53.35 | Repo | did fix the unguilded inventory issue (i think) |
| 08:54.42 | Xinhuan | i have this addon idea, whenever you get an achievement, the addon asks you in a popup if you want to broadcast it on real ID :P |
| 08:54.50 | Xinhuan | original right? |
| 08:58.32 | TNZe | Xinhuan, I thought of it yesterdsay |
| 08:58.38 | TNZe | although I was more inclined to name it |
| 08:58.45 | TNZe | CombatLogToRealIDBroadcast.lua |
| 08:59.49 | Kalroth | GearScoreToRealIDBroadcast!! |
| 09:00.09 | Kalroth | Now you can share your gearscore with ALL your friends |
| 09:00.33 | TNZe | But seriously, did they allow addons to access and modify your real id message? |
| 09:00.34 | TNZe | fo real? |
| 09:04.09 | Xinhuan | addons have always been able to access almost everything |
| 09:04.15 | Xinhuan | including the ability to delete items from your bags |
| 09:04.20 | Xinhuan | and automatically mail items away |
| 09:04.38 | Shadowed | ding ding ding ding |
| 09:06.00 | Fisker | did they remove the spam protection on broadcasts? |
| 09:06.54 | Fisker | btw |
| 09:07.02 | Fisker | anyone got some screenshots of the new skill and profession ui? |
| 09:07.09 | Fisker | or a beta key |
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| 09:07.15 | Fisker | preferably the latter |
| 09:07.27 | Fisker | but i guess i'll have to settle for a screenshot |
| 09:15.34 | Repo | 10xperl: 03PlayerLin * r367 XPerl_RaidAdmin/XPerl_Check.lua: |
| 09:15.36 | Repo | Ticket 658 fix : ChatFrameEditBox obsoleted fix on Parch 3.3.5, thanks titanrecount. |
| 09:16.51 | asmodai | oh, NDA lifted :| |
| 09:16.55 | asmodai | Megalon: hahaha, that would rock btw |
| 09:17.03 | asmodai | Megalon: Saves me time from raiding ;) |
| 09:17.21 | Megalon | indeed it would bring you to a page for micropayments |
| 09:17.26 | asmodai | Did any of you file tickets for RealID privacy options yet? :) |
| 09:19.29 | Fisker | give beta key asmodai |
| 09:19.32 | Fisker | you know you owe me one |
| 09:20.33 | Fisker | It could be you asmodai |
| 09:22.54 | Xinhuan | its more interesting to see a 1-sided real ID broadcast conversation |
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| 09:36.07 | Chosi | still not sure if want (realid) |
| 09:36.16 | Chosi | :S |
| 09:36.26 | Chosi | !8ball Should I? |
| 09:36.27 | TNZe | you are given one by defailt |
| 09:36.36 | TNZe | your email addy is your realid |
| 09:36.49 | Megalon | smartassing is fun |
| 09:36.53 | Chosi | yeah i know, but i don't have to accept peoples' reequests |
| 09:37.05 | Chosi | people's |
| 09:37.06 | Chosi | whatever |
| 09:38.23 | Chosi | however as long as it's not the other way round (char -> email) it's fine :P |
| 09:39.47 | asmodai | Fisker: Maybe I get lucky if I ask my colleague who knows people 'n stuff |
| 09:39.57 | asmodai | got his sc2 from that as well |
| 09:40.32 | CodeRedLin | I know you have your reasons but I'm curious what they are. Why does RealID need privacy protection/ |
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| 09:41.31 | Megalon | friends-of-friends |
| 09:41.46 | Megalon | i can control who I add as a realid friend |
| 09:41.56 | Xinhuan | friends-of-friends is a pretty good way of adding people as real id friends without requiring to know their realID email address |
| 09:42.00 | Megalon | but this also exposes your realid to every of your friends friends :7 |
| 09:42.27 | Xinhuan | at least, wow's API doesn't reveal the person's email address |
| 09:42.35 | Xinhuan | sc2's one does though |
| 09:42.57 | CodeRedLin | I'm concerned about the e-mail address slightly since that is a login thing. But my real name I couldn't care about who knows. |
| 09:43.55 | Shadowed | usernames are not security |
| 09:44.13 | Fisker | OH BUT THEY ARE SHADOWED |
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| 09:44.15 | Shadowed | They're the equivalent to putting a piece of paper on a lock and saying "Please don't take off" |
| 09:44.28 | Fisker | THEY ARE 50% OF YOUR SECURITY BECAUES IT'S ONE THING OUT OF 2 |
| 09:44.39 | Fisker | Just like how my face is 50% of my real life security |
| 09:44.43 | Fisker | so i wear a bag over my head |
| 09:44.44 | Fisker | herp derp |
| 09:44.55 | CodeRedLin | More of the equiv of saying "this is my locker" |
| 09:45.00 | Fisker | herp derp |
| 09:45.09 | Shadowed | it's 3 AM |
| 09:45.16 | Shadowed | if you want something that makes sense, ask me again at 10 |
| 09:45.39 | CodeRedLin | you are correct. coffee time. |
| 09:45.50 | Fisker | ask Shadowed why he hates me :( |
| 09:45.58 | CodeRedLin | I know why he does. |
| 09:46.01 | CodeRedLin | j/k |
| 09:46.12 | SunTsu | Shadowed: guess why password auth is called "two factor auth" |
| 09:46.26 | Shadowed | because someone decided that usernames meant security |
| 09:46.30 | Shadowed | and whoever that is, I hate them |
| 09:46.53 | Fisker | SunTsu if it is, then it's wrong |
| 09:46.54 | SunTsu | Shadowed: it's one thing you need to know, so it _is_ security relevant |
| 09:47.02 | CodeRedLin | My username *is* my security. My password is always 1234 |
| 09:47.11 | Fisker | the password + authenticator is two-factor authentication |
| 09:47.13 | Shadowed | It's security in a vague sense |
| 09:47.15 | Fisker | your name + password isn't |
| 09:47.22 | SunTsu | Fisker: No, that would be three factor auth |
| 09:47.26 | Shadowed | You don't make your password easier because you use your login to make it more secure |
| 09:47.27 | Fisker | no. |
| 09:47.30 | Fisker | wikipedia it |
| 09:47.30 | Fisker | l2p |
| 09:47.55 | SunTsu | Fisker: it _is_ three factor auth. Username + pass + token-id |
| 09:48.05 | Fisker | herps derps |
| 09:48.06 | Shadowed | apparently my IRC client put fisker on ignore |
| 09:48.09 | Shadowed | I wonder how that happened |
| 09:48.27 | Fisker | who knows? |
| 09:48.30 | Xinhuan | username isn't a factor because it isn't secure and knowledge of it isn't restricted to yourself |
| 09:48.33 | Fisker | maybe it's because i'm a massive jerk? |
| 09:48.46 | CodeRedLin | My email address is coderedlin@michaeljackson.com << Security :) |
| 09:49.11 | Fisker | people calling username + password for two-factor authentication are just as stupid as the people calling a keylogger(that happens to keylog the authenticator code) a man-in-the-middle attack |
| 09:49.26 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: it normally should only be known to you and the server administration. Yet it is a weaker factor than the password is, yet it is a factor |
| 09:49.26 | Shadowed | The only time you can really argue that username = some sort of security is if you make an account specifically for WoW, but you're better off getting an authenticator if you want to be that paranoid |
| 09:49.37 | Fisker | username and password isn't two-factor because you looked up "two" and "factor" in the dictionary |
| 09:50.22 | Shadowed | in which case, a special secret email is kind of pointless |
| 09:50.39 | Shadowed | Basically, if you're that paranoid about security that you think your username offers you additional security, get an authenticator |
| 09:50.48 | SunTsu | Shadowed: having a mail address as username is another dumb idea, yes |
| 09:51.03 | Shadowed | and if you don't want to get an authenticator, then you aren't really paranoid about security and just like to bitch |
| 09:51.13 | Shadowed | Ever heard of OpenID? :p |
| 09:51.19 | Shadowed | or any sort of mail client |
| 09:51.33 | Shadowed | Theres nothing wrong with the email address being the username, if anything it's easier |
| 09:53.02 | Fisker | indeed |
| 09:53.14 | Fisker | lot easier to remember |
| 09:53.18 | SunTsu | Shadowed: last I checked my mail server does have unique usernames instead of the mail address for auth |
| 09:53.21 | Fisker | and if you have several accounts it's single-sign-on |
| 09:53.41 | Shadowed | rolleyes |
| 09:54.04 | Fisker | mail servers should be busy using SSL instead of providing unique usernames |
| 09:54.13 | SunTsu | Shadowed: again: what's easier? Guessing one unknown information or two? |
| 09:54.19 | Shadowed | I'm about to go to sleep and don't feel like having a semantics argument. Simple answer is, you're wrong. Emails are not security, if you're that paranoid get an authenticator. Your argument is absurd |
| 09:54.29 | Shadowed | Get an authenticator if you think your email provides security |
| 09:54.40 | Fisker | SunTsu just as easy infact |
| 09:55.03 | Shadowed | Really the end result to any argument about this is "Get an authenticator" |
| 09:55.24 | Fisker | i still prefer my analogy |
| 09:55.27 | SunTsu | Fisker: SSL is no proof against bruteforcing.. |
| 09:55.31 | Fisker | your face is used to verify photo identification |
| 09:55.35 | Fisker | hence your face is a security risk |
| 09:55.37 | Fisker | get a bag |
| 09:55.44 | SunTsu | Fisker: maybe you'd like to stick to your own dictionary comment |
| 09:56.04 | Fisker | i never said it was security against bruteforcing |
| 09:56.27 | Fisker | But i do think that being able to read your password in plaintext is a bit more important to fix over having unique usernames |
| 09:57.36 | SunTsu | Fisker: take it that way. I know that your toons name, that's it. If I wanted to break into your account I'd have to guess your username _and_ your password. If I know your mail address to be your username I only need to guess the password. |
| 09:58.01 | Yivry | soooo, who´s responsible for Prat, and can I do anything to help? I really hate what blizz did to some stuff >.< |
| 09:58.02 | SunTsu | Fisker: you're just talking about two different things |
| 09:58.14 | asmodai | Bibi: So did forward those wowtal problems I noticed? :) |
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| 09:59.37 | Fisker | SunTsu |
| 09:59.46 | Fisker | Guessing your username and password will never happen |
| 09:59.57 | Fisker | guessing your password knowing the username will never happen |
| 09:59.57 | Fisker | never = never = the same |
| 10:00.04 | Fisker | therefor it is not a concern |
| 10:00.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbabble-subzone-3-0/. LibBabble-SubZone-3.0. arith (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 10:01.12 | SunTsu | Fisker: brute forcing is a way of guessing, too, just done automatically |
| 10:02.18 | asmodai | most people's passwords are piss easy |
| 10:02.21 | Fisker | Yes, and successfully bruteforcing a password will take an infinite amount of time, successfully bruteforcing a username and password will ta |
| 10:02.28 | Fisker | take more th an an infinite amount of time |
| 10:02.40 | Fisker | But infinite = infinite :o |
| 10:03.02 | SunTsu | Fisker: you clearly don't know what you are talking about, but that's nothing new - for both of us |
| 10:03.19 | Fisker | Actually i do |
| 10:03.32 | Fisker | You assume you can infact bruteforce the passwords |
| 10:03.35 | Fisker | and you can't |
| 10:04.04 | Fisker | Besides i'm not the one calling "two-factor authentication" for username + password |
| 10:04.33 | Fisker | even if the username was a secret, then it doesn't pass for two-factor authentication either |
| 10:04.46 | Fisker | because it doesn't increase in factor by adding several of the same factor authentication into it |
| 10:04.53 | Fisker | 2 secrets = one-factor authentication |
| 10:05.00 | Fisker | 1 secret = one-factor authentication |
| 10:05.05 | Fisker | n secrets = one-factor authentication |
| 10:08.29 | Megalon | victoria's secerets = one-factor authentication |
| 10:08.38 | Fisker | hot Megalon |
| 10:08.50 | Megalon | indeed |
| 10:08.51 | Fisker | one should make a security blog named that |
| 10:09.26 | Megalon | i would so my biometric data into victoria's secrets |
| 10:09.41 | Megalon | which would make it a two-factor authentication in the process |
| 10:10.16 | Fisker | yeah but 9 months to wait for the result |
| 10:10.18 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 10:11.04 | Megalon | just so you can't bruteforce it |
| 10:11.21 | Fisker | but you can |
| 10:12.01 | Fisker | it's just take an infinite amount of time |
| 10:12.01 | Fisker | But apparently you're a jerk for pointing out that by the time a successful bruteforce attack could be made, the earth would've ceased to exist |
| 10:12.04 | asmodai | For you developers out there, interesting read: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1199353-software-engineering-file-formats-build-processes-packaging.html |
| 10:12.57 | Megalon | yea Fisker, but you can always try to backdoor |
| 10:13.12 | Fisker | cool asmodai |
| 10:13.19 | Fisker | i always thought that they cooked shit just to be huge jerks |
| 10:13.38 | asmodai | But bruteforcing becomes easier once you get more data about said person through the social networks they're a member of. |
| 10:14.04 | Fisker | at that point it's just a person guessing |
| 10:14.21 | asmodai | I rather call it more intelligent bruteforcing. |
| 10:14.38 | Fisker | and really if you even try to just have anything resembling a dictionary word as a password |
| 10:14.43 | Fisker | then you just deserve it |
| 10:14.47 | Fisker | i don't care if you leetspeak it |
| 10:14.55 | Fisker | you're a fucking retard if you do it |
| 10:15.25 | asmodai | I'm curious, just how much background do you have in computer security? |
| 10:15.42 | Fisker | COMP SCI III |
| 10:15.42 | Megalon | he secured his computer once when he dog tried to eat it |
| 10:15.44 | Fisker | :3 |
| 10:15.46 | Megalon | that's it |
| 10:15.55 | asmodai | So just theoretical? |
| 10:16.04 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:16.23 | Fisker | several years of pratical and theoretical use and abuse |
| 10:16.51 | Fisker | btw the last place i were at had a huge text file with personal information + passwords in it |
| 10:16.54 | Fisker | i /facepalm'd |
| 10:17.06 | Fisker | oh and it was shared on the network |
| 10:17.08 | asmodai | notes the date and time |
| 10:17.10 | Fisker | but they didn't know that |
| 10:17.15 | asmodai | Fisker is talking seriously for a change |
| 10:17.42 | asmodai | I'm not sure I can cope with this at the end of the working week :S |
| 10:18.10 | Megalon | he will get back into ragemode soon, no woories there |
| 10:18.22 | Megalon | just mention cataclysm beta keys |
| 10:18.24 | Fisker | i am in rage mode |
| 10:18.27 | Fisker | exactly |
| 10:18.30 | Megalon | you see |
| 10:18.41 | Fisker | the only way to get me to talk seriously is putting me in rage mode |
| 10:19.28 | asmodai | Which is quite strange for a Dane, mind you. |
| 10:19.31 | Megalon | serious rage |
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| 10:22.06 | asmodai | Megalon: Endless rage. |
| 10:24.29 | Megalon | endless is kinda implicit when talking about Fisker's rage |
| 10:24.33 | Fisker | the new flasks in cataclysm must be "Fisker rage" |
| 10:24.34 | Fisker | :3 |
| 10:24.46 | Fisker | ap flasks that is |
| 10:27.27 | Megalon | there is not ap flask :F |
| 10:28.08 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:28.15 | Fisker | give me a screenshot of the profession ui then |
| 10:28.24 | Megalon | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58488/ |
| 10:28.30 | Megalon | but there are magic find potion! |
| 10:29.51 | Fisker | could be funny if they had something like magic find in the guild perks |
| 10:31.06 | Megalon | +golddrops! |
| 10:31.09 | Megalon | :7 |
| 10:31.25 | Fisker | they already got that kind of |
| 10:31.28 | Fisker | with the tax thingy |
| 10:31.37 | Fisker | which isn't really a tax |
| 10:31.42 | Fisker | but just extra money |
| 10:35.48 | Megalon | moar monies |
| 10:36.26 | Fisker | noone has actually killed Halion in 25 HC without the bug right? |
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| 10:42.42 | asmodai | Don't think so |
| 10:44.53 | Elkano | wtb x-server party queueing for dungeons :( |
| 10:46.36 | Fisker | indeed Elkano |
| 10:46.51 | Elkano | without realm pool limits |
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| 10:48.01 | Fisker | LOL |
| 10:48.07 | Fisker | http://www.androidguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/droid_burn-527x1024.png |
| 10:48.45 | Fisker | with the changes to cataclysm (cross-battlegroup) they can effectively put all the instance servers in one big pool |
| 10:48.59 | asmodai | mmm |
| 10:49.10 | asmodai | going to eu.battle.net now gives me new terms to accept |
| 10:49.16 | Fisker | yeah |
| 10:49.19 | Fisker | i would say old news |
| 10:49.29 | Fisker | It was there as a warning for like a month |
| 10:49.29 | Megalon | but you already said that |
| 10:49.35 | Fisker | then a week or so ago they made you accept it |
| 10:49.59 | asmodai | Which is funny, because it didn't force me when I logged in on the site a few times during the week |
| 10:50.07 | Fisker | weird |
| 10:50.17 | Fisker | maybe it's somehow incremental or something? |
| 10:50.23 | Fisker | I got mine like a week ago or so |
| 10:50.48 | Fisker | I expected it to just be from x to y, make the user aware, after y the user has to accept it with their first login |
| 10:52.58 | asmodai | Man, the new frost tree can be totally filled out with 76 points. |
| 10:53.10 | asmodai | If that's indeed the complete new tree. |
| 10:53.40 | Fisker | i'm disappoint in the pala talents |
| 10:53.48 | Fisker | but it's like they haven't even started on them |
| 10:53.51 | Fisker | i saw like 3 changes |
| 10:53.59 | asmodai | wonders if those 3 mage talents in arcane are due to missing icons that they show as 3 grey lines |
| 10:54.09 | asmodai | oh, now one loaded |
| 10:54.38 | Megalon | for me everything loads for mage on the mmo-c talentcalc :o |
| 10:54.54 | Fisker | masteries don't show on mine |
| 10:54.58 | asmodai | Megalon: http://www.wowtal.com/#k=ff-.9gq.mage |
| 10:55.00 | Fisker | and the ret icon isn't there for paladins |
| 10:55.09 | Megalon | ah, two don't imp managem and arcan tricks |
| 10:55.20 | Megalon | should remember to not click on priest when trying to few mage talents :x |
| 10:56.02 | asmodai | the sheep in arcane goes away if you put all 76 points in frost |
| 10:56.17 | asmodai | So when the point assign focus is lost, it seems to collapse |
| 10:56.21 | asmodai | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=f-WQ0111111.9gq.mage |
| 10:56.48 | Fisker | do the masteries work for you? |
| 10:57.20 | Megalon | nope |
| 10:57.31 | Megalon | probably not implemented in wowtal |
| 10:58.11 | asmodai | I do see the Masteries text come out when you first put a point in a tree. |
| 10:58.23 | asmodai | And the icon in frost lights up when putting points in it. But that's the extent of it. |
| 10:58.43 | Fisker | lets just say that they are Megalon ;3 |
| 10:59.18 | Megalon | hm? they clearly don't work on the page ;p |
| 10:59.33 | asmodai | I wonder if they fixed my little buglet |
| 10:59.34 | Fisker | yeah |
| 10:59.35 | asmodai | tries |
| 10:59.44 | Fisker | the site was actually up when the alpha was first leaked :P |
| 10:59.56 | Fisker | had cataclysm talents and masteries already back then |
| 11:00.06 | Fisker | but they were pulled because of Blizzard QQ'ing |
| 11:00.39 | CodeRedLin | I need to stop trolling trade. Just got my password reset again. |
| 11:01.16 | asmodai | yay |
| 11:01.17 | asmodai | it does |
| 11:01.33 | asmodai | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=1kfAb_El2gXd.9gq.druid now works as it should |
| 11:01.43 | asmodai | no more stray assigning points in another tree |
| 11:03.37 | asmodai | yay, shadow also fixed http://www.wowtal.com/#k=Qsfw0EMR61iK.9gq.priest |
| 11:05.48 | Megalon | haha yea balance |
| 11:06.03 | Megalon | it is just "take EVERYTHING in balance, and put rest in resto" |
| 11:07.18 | Fisker | can't do that with palas |
| 11:08.04 | Fisker | almost though |
| 11:09.04 | Fisker | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=doV0ywhgIpjp71.9gq.paladin <-would probably be my idea assuming that JoL still benefits from Divinity |
| 11:09.36 | Adirelle|work | hrm, are the new chat window location and size saved server-side ?? |
| 11:10.13 | Fisker | does reckoning work with aoe damage and such? |
| 11:10.52 | Fisker | blargh |
| 11:10.55 | Fisker | you can't do it anyway |
| 11:11.08 | Megalon | wowtal does not have the latest talents |
| 11:11.21 | Megalon | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin#,,12266 |
| 11:11.27 | Fisker | rets with reckoning would've been lol |
| 11:11.52 | Fisker | what about 12319? |
| 11:12.05 | Megalon | so there is no aura mastery Fisker |
| 11:12.19 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 11:12.25 | Megalon | yea, that's what i meant, copied the link when I checked which version wowtal has |
| 11:12.35 | Fisker | SANCTIFIED LIGHT |
| 11:12.36 | Fisker | OMG |
| 11:12.36 | Fisker | OMG |
| 11:12.38 | Fisker | OMGGGGGGGGG |
| 11:12.42 | Fisker | i came |
| 11:12.57 | Fisker | please let us get it |
| 11:13.45 | Fisker | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin#99M5xOLRLlGRO1,,12319 <-do want |
| 11:15.03 | Megalon | oh, judgements and holy shock |
| 11:15.11 | Kuosi | do want useful talents for shadowpriest |
| 11:15.11 | Kuosi | ! |
| 11:15.18 | Fisker | +15% extra crit |
| 11:15.22 | Megalon | what's that than |
| 11:15.25 | Fisker | that's insane |
| 11:15.26 | Fisker | :o |
| 11:15.27 | Megalon | +40% crit on judgments from talents? |
| 11:15.34 | Fisker | haha |
| 11:15.42 | Megalon | +15, +18, and normal crit talents |
| 11:15.49 | Kuosi | sp already having floater points and 5 more to come in cata |
| 11:15.51 | Kuosi | makes sense |
| 11:15.52 | Fisker | with current gear that would give us like 100% crit |
| 11:16.18 | Fisker | though it'll probably be less in cataclysm :( |
| 11:16.29 | Megalon | probably :p |
| 11:17.53 | Megalon | i wonder where they wanna go with fury |
| 11:18.43 | Megalon | atm it has two ultimates, TG and the other one +20% for onehanders and hitting with both hands on cleave and slam :c |
| 11:20.33 | asmodai | Kuosi: So far I am still unsure what to get with Shadow in the Disc tree. I mean, part I can see, but then I am still wondering about those 2 points I put in focused power and still have 4 left :S |
| 11:21.50 | Kuosi | yeh |
| 11:21.54 | asmodai | Adirelle|work: That would explain why my position got screwed |
| 11:22.11 | asmodai | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=Qsfw0EMR61iK.9gq.priest <-- the best I managed so far and not feeling too good about it |
| 11:23.59 | Adirelle|work | Megalon, I heard they want to allow fury warriors with two one-handers |
| 11:24.13 | Adirelle|work | so you're supposed to chose one of these two talents |
| 11:24.27 | Megalon | and respec every third drop :D |
| 11:24.37 | Adirelle|work | possibly |
| 11:25.02 | Megalon | thought they wanted to go away from those "choose weapontype" talents :x |
| 11:25.09 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 11:25.14 | Adirelle|work | that's what is strange |
| 11:25.24 | Megalon | just make it into one and only activate if MH/OH type match |
| 11:25.27 | Megalon | one/two handed i mean |
| 11:25.28 | Adirelle|work | though they are still quite generic |
| 11:25.56 | Megalon | yea, feels weird to have to ultimates though ;D |
| 11:26.06 | Megalon | two :C |
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| 11:38.01 | Adirelle|work | iirc, they did something quite similar in aoc |
| 11:46.50 | Kuosi | it's kinda demoralizing that after you have taken 62 talents as shadow |
| 11:46.59 | Kuosi | you have every possible dps talent |
| 11:47.09 | Kuosi | level required 71 |
| 11:53.41 | asmodai | hopes the rogue trees become a bit more interesting |
| 11:55.12 | Kuosi | I'm gonna keep playing my priest or swapping to war and both seem pretty lacklusters for cata :( |
| 12:00.23 | asmodai | Good thing I have a toon of every class ^^ |
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| 12:11.02 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/6M4k9.jpg |
| 12:11.19 | Megalon | :D |
| 12:11.43 | Megalon | nascar isn boring, it is just a different kind of exciting |
| 12:11.52 | Megalon | s/isn/isn't/ |
| 12:12.44 | ben | Yeah. The boring kind. |
| 12:15.01 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw&hd=1 |
| 12:19.38 | asmodai | http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=13390 |
| 12:31.59 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7504 / (3 files in 3 directories): deDE update. |
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| 12:50.22 | asmodai | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ckq1d/i_was_in_the_cataclysm_friends_and_family_alpha/ |
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| 12:59.15 | Chosi | and all i got was this lousy t-shirt? |
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| 13:29.06 | asmodai | http://forums.mammae.eu/live.php |
| 13:32.47 | kagaro | Niv: should be fixed now |
| 13:33.03 | yoshimo | the format for zonedata in hudmap is, zonename , x , y, next free number in the list, isnt it? |
| 13:37.34 | kagaro | Fisker: did you grab the alpha push of chatter, and did it get all the icons from the notices out? |
| 13:38.01 | Chosi | scotty, upgrade my account. now! |
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| 13:39.27 | Chosi | asmodai: lots of young boys on that stream eh? :P |
| 13:39.34 | Chosi | cause there are no women on the internet. |
| 13:39.55 | Stanzilla | kagaro: worked for me |
| 13:40.08 | Stanzilla | I just found something thats broken but already forgot what it was .( |
| 13:40.25 | Stanzilla | ah right, urls in bnet convos |
| 13:40.59 | kagaro | k |
| 13:42.28 | Stanzilla | url copy to be exact |
| 13:43.02 | asmodai | Chosi: lol |
| 13:47.19 | Chosi | omg annoying voices |
| 13:47.21 | Chosi | seriously |
| 13:47.24 | Chosi | attention whores |
| 13:47.24 | Chosi | :P |
| 13:47.30 | asmodai | hah |
| 13:48.34 | Chosi | :x |
| 13:48.38 | asmodai | Oh wow, you start off with a pet already as level 1 hunter |
| 13:48.42 | Chosi | yup |
| 13:48.46 | Chosi | OLD NEWS |
| 13:48.48 | Chosi | ;) |
| 13:49.15 | Chosi | can you kick a couple of people for MEEEEEEE </annoying female voice> |
| 13:49.21 | Chosi | bye stream. |
| 13:49.22 | Chosi | :) |
| 13:49.26 | asmodai | wonders if Fisker cloned himself |
| 13:51.09 | ben | Oh, can I bitch about chatter here |
| 13:51.31 | ben | When I do the copy text thing the text as it is displayed and as it is copied seems to be offset by a few lines! This is terrible! |
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| 13:53.13 | Repo | 10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r120 / (5 files in 1 directory): Some fixes to silence errors. |
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| 14:07.26 | yoshimo | if i want to know if a player has a certain item in his bags and if so, how many of them, which api functions would help me? |
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| 14:14.35 | Repo | 10charscanner: 03kunda * r43 / (3 files in 1 directory): update for Patch 3.3.5 (Ruby Sanctum) |
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| 14:16.21 | vhaarr | GetItemCount |
| 14:18.23 | yoshimo | ty |
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| 14:26.19 | GER|koaschten | anyone got experience here with digital photo frames that got internal wireless lan? |
| 14:27.10 | Repo | 10amc: 03arith * r76 Readme/ChangeLog.txt: changelog update |
| 14:27.21 | Repo | 10amc: 03arith 04v1.5b-release2 * r77 : Tagging as v1.5b-release2 |
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| 14:31.04 | Fisker | GER|koaschten |
| 14:31.05 | Fisker | i'm dying |
| 14:31.18 | GER|koaschten | after all? yay ! |
| 14:31.27 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:31.29 | Fisker | you can fix it |
| 14:31.38 | Fisker | if you get me access to the beta then i won't die |
| 14:31.39 | GER|koaschten | sry, dont have a beta key for you |
| 14:31.54 | GER|koaschten | why should i have one in the first place? |
| 14:32.01 | Fisker | no beta keys |
| 14:32.08 | Fisker | besides i thought you wanted me to live |
| 14:32.50 | Repo | 10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r121 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:32.52 | Repo | The chat frames have mousewheel scrolling enabled by default now. |
| 14:38.20 | Megalon | wow, if it is that easy to let you die |
| 14:38.22 | Megalon | HOORAY |
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| 14:38.27 | Megalon | HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAY |
| 14:38.36 | Megalon | HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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| 15:01.05 | asmodai | darn |
| 15:01.06 | asmodai | I must say |
| 15:01.21 | asmodai | Cataclysm's UI is definitely more polished in a lot of ways |
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| 15:06.46 | Stanzilla | the new spellbook is amazing |
| 15:10.48 | Fisker | screenshots Stanzilla |
| 15:10.53 | Fisker | (also fuck off with the sandbox shit) |
| 15:11.05 | Stanzilla | you know the alpha shots of the gui |
| 15:11.13 | Stanzilla | so no need for screenshots :p |
| 15:11.23 | Fisker | Yeah but i want to see how it actually looks like on actual character |
| 15:12.01 | Stanzilla | can't help you with that |
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| 15:12.32 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-8-gd4b03b4 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 15:12.33 | Repo | d4b03b4: Fixed url copy for realid whispers. |
| 15:12.34 | Repo | 0ecda61: Added support to move the toast window offsets. Added support for channel names related to realId |
| 15:12.57 | kagaro | Stanzilla, url links should work now with bnet whispers |
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| 15:14.41 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 15:14.53 | kagaro | and you can now move the toast window |
| 15:16.41 | Stanzilla | got an idea about my editbox moving problem? |
| 15:16.49 | kagaro | still looking |
| 15:19.15 | Stanzilla | curse client is slooow |
| 15:20.49 | steev | turn off hardware accel |
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| 15:23.41 | Stanzilla | no i meant the updating |
| 15:24.02 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-9-gb39d787 Modules/ChatTabs.lua: [+1 commit] Adjust tabs so they alpha to 0 when mouse leaves the area, thanks Phanx/Tekkub |
| 15:24.04 | Stanzilla | it still doesn't show that chatter update and for some reason it keeps thinking forteX is modified |
| 15:27.26 | Fisker | steevmen |
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| 15:31.41 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r247 LibFail-1.0.lua: add some Halion fails (twilight cutter, meteor) |
| 15:32.26 | Axodious | hey, there's an addon that actively tracks raid achievements while you're doing them anyone happen to know the name? |
| 15:32.40 | Axodious | like doing full house it'll tell you when you have all the mobs up |
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| 15:35.38 | Axodious | think i've foujnd it |
| 15:35.41 | Axodious | found* |
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| 15:39.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r7505 / (5 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: |
| 15:39.34 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 15:45.51 | Repo | 10ignore-more: 03mikk * r45 IgnoreMore.lua: IgnoreMore: |
| 15:45.53 | Repo | - Make more stuff local |
| 15:45.53 | Repo | - De-ugly some code |
| 15:45.54 | Repo | - Add Duel / Trade blocking (note that a trade request will still e.g. close your NPC interaction window... gah) |
| 15:55.36 | steev | Axodious: what addon is it? |
| 15:57.55 | Niv | kagaro: cool, also did you guys mean to leave whisper tabs on by default? |
| 15:58.39 | kagaro | not intentionally |
| 15:58.49 | kagaro | but you can disable it |
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| 15:59.19 | steev | i do wish cellular would turn them off since it opens them in its window |
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| 16:09.04 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-11-ge922a45 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 16:09.06 | Repo | e922a45: Force the first editbox up 1 level to make it easier to move around. |
| 16:09.07 | Repo | 621e9b8: EditBox added a test to make sure we dont create and oextra overlay on reload. URL copy added BN_CONVERSATION support. |
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| 16:17.02 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r55 / (9 files in 1 directory): BossTactics: |
| 16:17.04 | Repo | - |
| 16:17.57 | Repo | 10ignore-more: 03mikk * r46 IgnoreMore.lua: IgnoreMore: |
| 16:17.59 | Repo | - 3.3.5: GetSelectedIgnore() always has to return a number now (0 for "nothing selected") |
| 16:19.18 | GER|koaschten | anyone had a look at LibJostle-3.0 yet? my ButtonBin is yelling at me |
| 16:19.36 | GER|koaschten | seems ckk did some changes a week ago, but only tagged it alpha |
| 16:19.41 | nevcairiel | it was updated, i believe |
| 16:19.59 | sb|work | *yawn* |
| 16:20.37 | GER|koaschten | good morning ;) |
| 16:22.28 | Fisker | nevcairielmen |
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| 16:29.28 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:33.26 | asmodai | morn Kaelten |
| 16:33.27 | Fisker | no Kaelten |
| 16:33.31 | Fisker | EVENING |
| 16:33.38 | asmodai | slaps Fisker |
| 16:33.41 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:33.45 | asmodai | IRC rule of greetings |
| 16:34.00 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03onyxmaster * r106 LoggerHead.toc: |
| 16:34.03 | Repo | bump .TOC, hopefully will pick up LibBabble-Zone and LibTourist 3.3.5 updates |
| 16:41.50 | Repo | 10ignore-more: 03mikk * r47 IgnoreMore.lua: IgnoreMore: |
| 16:41.52 | Repo | - More GetSelectedIgnore 3.3.5 fixes |
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| 16:44.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03zhTW * r7506 Northrend/Locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
| 16:46.45 | Fisker | no asmodai |
| 16:46.49 | Fisker | Fisker rule of time |
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| 16:50.23 | asmodai | I wonder what inspired the Goblin dance |
| 16:50.44 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-12-ge23c0eb Modules/EditBox.lua: [+1 commit] Make sure we loop all chatframe on an disable/enable call |
| 16:57.30 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-13-g9956fd7 Modules/ChatTabs.lua: [+1 commit] added a little mroe to the alpha setup parts |
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| 17:03.14 | steev | http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Custom-Built-Motorcycles-Pro-Street-LightCycle-Tron-Lightcycle-Light-Cycle-Bike-Full-Size-Running-/220627957724?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item335e7377dc#v4-33 |
| 17:10.09 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.3-14-g79e7f15 Modules/ChatTabs.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for alpha on undocked windows. Thanks Stan. |
| 17:14.28 | asmodai | The Stable will now store 20 pets. If a pet is moved into the Stable, its talents are wiped. |
| 17:14.31 | asmodai | heuh |
| 17:15.49 | Adirelle | iirc the stable stores "inactive" pets and you can select a set of 3 "active" pets |
| 17:16.07 | asmodai | Five pets can now be stored with the hunter at all times. Any one of these five pets can be summoned via the Call Pet ability. |
| 17:16.12 | asmodai | reading http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702229998&sid=2000 |
| 17:16.53 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2.4-1-g4a581a5 Modules/BNet.lua: [+1 commit] Conditional check was backwards. |
| 17:17.16 | Adirelle | asmodai, that matchs what I read |
| 17:17.36 | Adirelle | 5 active pets + 20 pets inactive at stable |
| 17:17.38 | asmodai | So if you pull one from stable you need to reapply talents |
| 17:17.43 | Adirelle | yep |
| 17:17.50 | nevcairiel | considering its the latest patch changelog, how would it be different :p |
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| 17:18.50 | asmodai | Then again, doubt people will switch pets that often :S |
| 17:20.34 | Adirelle | you'd probably be fine with the one of the 5 active pets |
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| 17:21.02 | Adirelle | and collect the other as you collect minipets |
| 17:21.57 | asmodai | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/58903/kobold-candle/ |
| 17:21.58 | asmodai | ownage |
| 17:24.56 | steev | heh |
| 17:25.08 | GER|koaschten | anyone got an idea what might cause the default blizz buff and debuff bar to not show even though i havent installed some "buff bar" addon or disabled them in the wow settings? |
| 17:26.35 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/fHpn7.jpg :( |
| 17:26.53 | asmodai | oh noes |
| 17:26.56 | asmodai | poor Blancy! |
| 17:26.58 | asmodai | Blanchy |
| 17:26.59 | asmodai | http://forums.mammae.eu/live.php |
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| 17:31.12 | asmodai | christ, still repeating textures >_< |
| 17:31.37 | asmodai | ohh, bridge at lakeshire finally fixed :P |
| 17:31.55 | steev | >< |
| 17:31.58 | steev | kicks asmodai |
| 17:32.10 | steev | i wants teh beta :( |
| 17:32.24 | Xinhuan | GER|koaschten: you can try deleting layout-cache.txt |
| 17:32.30 | Xinhuan | in your character-specific subfolder |
| 17:32.35 | Xinhuan | (or renaming it) |
| 17:32.46 | asmodai | steev: me too |
| 17:32.51 | asmodai | steev: I'm watchign a live stream |
| 17:32.53 | Xinhuan | if an addon in the past moved it, it may remain in the new position even without that addon |
| 17:33.02 | GER|koaschten | uhm cant i just search it for the buff bars and delete that line (assuming the client uses default locations then)? because i dont feel like repositioning everything ;) |
| 17:33.07 | asmodai | looks like Swamp of Sorrows is now called Stonard |
| 17:33.10 | GER|koaschten | but thanks for the idea @ Xinhuan |
| 17:33.21 | Xinhuan | you could search |
| 17:33.32 | Xinhuan | but you would need to delete the appropriate subsection if it exists |
| 17:34.22 | Megalon | Fisker: drown yourself |
| 17:34.30 | asmodai | cute, they added foxes |
| 17:34.46 | Fisker | i wish Megalon |
| 17:34.56 | Megalon | just do it :p |
| 17:35.09 | Megalon | your corpse always spawns where you drown |
| 17:35.14 | Megalon | and you can die to fatigue as ghost |
| 17:35.26 | Aeyan| | I wonder if they reenabled addons with the switch to beta status |
| 17:37.03 | Fisker | the server is down Megalon |
| 17:37.06 | Fisker | so i can't drown myself |
| 17:37.06 | asmodai | wow, Stormwind looks nice from the air |
| 17:37.20 | Megalon | drown yourself irl |
| 17:37.25 | Megalon | that would help everyone else |
| 17:38.19 | asmodai | heh |
| 17:38.43 | GER|koaschten | Xinhuan no buff related addons in there, basically its xloot and recount |
| 17:38.57 | Xinhuan | create a new level 1 then |
| 17:39.07 | Xinhuan | if its not there, its due to an addon |
| 17:39.09 | asmodai | mmm, Kargath? |
| 17:39.16 | asmodai | a new zone |
| 17:39.40 | GER|koaschten | which is strange, because i used satrina and got sick of it, so removed it and now the bars are gone, though i am not 100% sure its related :X |
| 17:41.11 | asmodai | mmm, Kargath is where Searing Gorge was |
| 17:41.22 | GER|koaschten | kargath is the horde outpost in badlands? |
| 17:42.08 | Megalon | it's where the onyxia quests starts! |
| 17:43.01 | asmodai | GER|koaschten: well, on the eastern kingdoms map it was left of Badlands, and just right of Kharanos |
| 17:43.04 | asmodai | in Dun Morogh |
| 17:43.33 | asmodai | Blasted Lands now has a beach part |
| 17:43.43 | asmodai | Red Reaches |
| 17:44.48 | asmodai | Heh, Naga there, of course |
| 17:45.25 | asmodai | The Tainted Forest |
| 17:45.31 | asmodai | water is looking nice though |
| 17:45.54 | asmodai | Ahhh |
| 17:45.58 | asmodai | That's the Tainted Scar |
| 17:46.03 | asmodai | wow, it's green :| |
| 17:49.18 | sbu | meh, is the packager dead? |
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| 17:56.48 | asmodai | holy moly |
| 17:56.54 | asmodai | so many trees in the hinterlands now |
| 17:58.02 | Megalon | over 9000? |
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| 18:00.10 | asmodai | Megalon: close to :| |
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| 18:06.27 | Funkeh` | ahhh |
| 18:06.44 | Funkeh` | Antiarc why spam me wiht errors just because hudmap has no zone data for RS :( |
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| 18:14.05 | yoshimo | libmapdata already has them, so someone could patch it in. I was told that hudmap will use that lib later |
| 18:21.41 | asmodai | wth, someone was riding an Ahn'Qiraji battle tank in Dalaran |
| 18:22.11 | nevcairiel | eh, so? |
| 18:22.23 | nevcairiel | there are those crazy people that have one |
| 18:22.45 | Mikk | asmodai: the 1-per-realm one, i assume |
| 18:22.47 | nevcairiel | also, live streams are teh boring |
| 18:23.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I have a few >_< |
| 18:24.52 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
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| 18:29.25 | nevcairiel | yay i dont randomly DC today anymore |
| 18:29.30 | nevcairiel | i can finally code |
| 18:29.30 | nevcairiel | ! |
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| 18:50.50 | Funkeh` | yoshimo besides the point |
| 18:51.11 | Funkeh` | difference between alreting the user the addon has no mapdata, and spammign the user to the point they ahve to turn the addon off |
| 18:56.03 | yoshimo | i didnt play since patchday, so i dont know how annyoing it really is |
| 18:58.14 | nevcairiel | wth is this, i reload ui once, and i start disconnecting like mad again |
| 18:58.41 | asmodai | karma |
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| 19:04.23 | nevcairiel | disabled all addons, enabled them again .. working |
| 19:04.25 | nevcairiel | wtf :) |
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| 19:07.32 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r948 AceGUI-3.0/widgets (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:07.34 | Repo | AceGUI-3.0: Add SetMaxLetters APIs to EB and MLEB (Ticket #135) |
| 19:09.37 | asmodai | http://asmodai.imgur.com/cataclysm |
| 19:14.27 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r949 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIContainer-Frame.lua: |
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| 19:14.44 | Repo | AceGUI-3.0: Frame: Add events for OnEnter/OnLeave of the statusbar |
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| 19:20.04 | GER|koaschten | chatter and bigwigs having co-existance issues? |
| 19:20.16 | kagaro | ? |
| 19:20.48 | Antiarc | They shouldn't, I run both |
| 19:20.55 | kagaro | so do i |
| 19:21.44 | GER|koaschten | http://pastey.net/138197 |
| 19:22.04 | kagaro | what version are you using? |
| 19:22.37 | kagaro | and bigwigs isnt involved at all |
| 19:22.43 | GER|koaschten | chatter v1.2.3 and bigwigs r7500-release |
| 19:22.49 | kagaro | it just happened to be the one that loaded ace3 |
| 19:22.57 | kagaro | upgrade for 1.2.4 i fixed that prof bug |
| 19:23.07 | Grum | What addon gives a really small '{skull} Died from X for 100 then Z for 1000 and then Y for 500' when someone dies? |
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| 19:23.41 | GER|koaschten | there are a few |
| 19:23.46 | GER|koaschten | @describe fatality |
| 19:23.47 | Repo | GER|koaschten: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/fatality/. Fatality. Announces player deaths to chat. |
| 19:26.01 | Grum | like displayed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51znZPyisgk at 2:30 |
| 19:28.09 | Grum | Chatter-1.0\Modules\ChatFont.lua <-- erm what chatter now? :P |
| 19:30.40 | kagaro | I said bigwigs wasnt involived it happen to load ace3 |
| 19:30.49 | kagaro | the error is a bug i fixed in 1.2.4 |
| 19:31.35 | Primer | hrmm, I wonder if the calendar format changed in the armory...my scraper doesn't work any more |
| 19:36.03 | asmodai | Hahahaa |
| 19:36.15 | asmodai | So they are fighting these corehound bosses in this new Blackrock instance |
| 19:36.53 | asmodai | and there's a huge ass mother corehound and a few children corehounds. The last, smallest one was called Runty, killing him/her send mother into a rage, oneshotting the tank and the rest XD |
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| 19:41.25 | ThiefMaster | is there a /script command to force bigwigs to enable the halion module? |
| 19:41.34 | ThiefMaster | it doesn't seem to recognize the german zone yet |
| 19:41.36 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r950 AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
| 19:41.38 | Repo | AceConfigDialog-3.0: Don't close frames in CloseAll that are being opened after the CloseAll event was dispatched. (Ticket #132). Also, cleanups. |
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| 19:44.19 | nevcairiel | Someone try if i didnt build some new regressions, so i can possibly tag soon |
| 19:45.11 | Grum | ThiefMaster: /script BigWigs.bossCore:EnableModule("Halion"); |
| 19:45.22 | yoshimo | ThiefMaster, nevcairiel is able to change libbabble entries i think |
| 19:45.41 | nevcairiel | everyone can translate on the website |
| 19:45.42 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 19:45.43 | Grum | ThiefMaster: mm make sure BW_NorthRend is loaded; /script LoadAddOn("BigWigs_Northrend") |
| 19:45.44 | Fisker | hey hey hey |
| 19:45.46 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 19:45.49 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (2d 14h 25m 26s) #wowace (2d 14h 25m 26s) #curseforge (2d 14h 25m 26s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 25m 1s, last said: 'They shouldn't, I run both'. |
| 19:45.49 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: why is CC not getting any updates? :( |
| 19:45.50 | Fisker | yeah yeah yeah |
| 19:45.50 | nevcairiel | i run the script daily after patches |
| 19:46.00 | yoshimo | nevcairiel, last time i checked bablezone didnt have ruby sanctum available |
| 19:46.03 | Grum | it has been updated, prolly no-one made a german translation yet |
| 19:46.09 | nevcairiel | was added yesterday |
| 19:46.10 | Grum | or bw hasnt been repacked |
| 19:46.27 | nevcairiel | sicne i dont play much, i need people to tell me stuff :P |
| 19:46.30 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:46.48 | Grum | and yeah, curse client is serving old data |
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| 19:47.16 | nevcairiel | also, the german version is already present in the latest babble push |
| 19:47.19 | nevcairiel | from a few hours ago |
| 19:47.27 | nevcairiel | just grab the new alpha or wait for a bigwigs repack |
| 19:47.28 | yoshimo | i have important things like babble-zone installed as standalone version |
| 19:47.29 | Grum | mm seems to be updated now, 2 hours ago it served ~8 hour old stuff |
| 19:47.48 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: i'm not getting any updates in cc4 and it keeps telling me that fortexorzist is modified which is not the case, there is a thread on the forums about that, too |
| 19:47.55 | nevcairiel | babble-zone isnt really "important", people just need to tell me what to add :D |
| 19:48.22 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/microsoft-announces-instaload-battery-technology-never-insert-a/ |
| 19:48.35 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: ya I fixed a bug on the server side with the fingerprint stuff, I'm not sure exactly how the windows client is beign affected by me fixing it |
| 19:48.54 | yoshimo | nevcairiel its important enough to be isntalled on its own, so i dont need to wait for repacks |
| 19:48.56 | Kaelten | or if fortexorsit is otherwised messed up |
| 19:50.47 | Fisker | seriously man |
| 19:50.54 | Fisker | who inserts batteries incorrectly? |
| 19:50.56 | ThiefMaster | Message: ..\AddOns\BigWigs_Northrend\Locales\deDE.lua line 2: attempt to index global 'BigWigs' (a nil value) |
| 19:50.59 | ThiefMaster | when loading northrend |
| 19:51.10 | ThiefMaster | ah, bw itself was off again |
| 19:51.45 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r259 FriendList/FriendList.lua: |
| 19:51.48 | Repo | Put the status tag back in the defaults, need it for last online time for now. |
| 19:52.06 | ThiefMaster | Usage: GetModule(name, silent): 'name' - Cannot find module 'Halion' |
| 19:52.11 | ThiefMaster | when doing EnableModule |
| 19:52.57 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: well if i take Ace3 as an example it still shows me r947 as the latest |
| 19:54.17 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki 04v3.3.5.0 * r260 : Tagging as v3.3.5.0 |
| 19:55.24 | MysticalOS | hmm, is curse client down? |
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| 19:57.57 | quiescens | o.o |
| 19:58.28 | quiescens | moo? |
| 20:02.18 | Stanzilla | MysticalOS: yeah something like that :P |
| 20:03.24 | MysticalOS | updating stuff manually is not for the lazy like myself. *pokes Kaelten* |
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| 20:06.10 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 20:06.12 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (2d 14h 45m 49s) #wowace (2d 14h 45m 49s) #curseforge (2d 14h 45m 49s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 45m 24s, last said: 'They shouldn't, I run both'. |
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| 20:20.02 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: have there been some changes to the server the forums are on? apparently soem old attachments have vanished |
| 20:20.19 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: like, http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=297102&postcount=17 |
| 20:21.56 | asmodai | http://imgur.com/gallery/5set8 |
| 20:22.44 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 20:24.20 | asmodai | or how about http://androinica.com/2010/07/01/motorola-runs-full-page-droid-x-ad-proclaiming-you-can-hold-the-phone-any-way-you-like-it/ |
| 20:24.33 | nevcairiel | everyone is doign that |
| 20:24.39 | nevcairiel | nokia has alot of those as well |
| 20:25.15 | nevcairiel | bash on apple like there is no tomorrow, now! :) |
| 20:25.36 | Gnarfoz | justified to exploit that |
| 20:25.53 | Gnarfoz | also, fuck Vodafone holding back android 2.2 updates |
| 20:26.06 | Mihau | nevcairiel: Hurrr derp I broke it when I moved the site. |
| 20:26.28 | Kaelten | crazy thing for me is that I have better reception on my iphone4 than my old phone |
| 20:26.29 | Kaelten | much better |
| 20:26.35 | Gnarfoz | now I have to 1) wait for nexus ones do be back in stock at online stores and 2) MAKE SURE it's not actually a Vodafone-sold nexus one. :F |
| 20:27.20 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: apparently you're holding it right, then! :) |
| 20:27.45 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:27.50 | Kaelten | holding it like I always have |
| 20:27.52 | Kaelten | shrugs |
| 20:27.55 | Gnarfoz | that's what she said |
| 20:28.03 | nevcairiel | i read some article today why its happening |
| 20:28.05 | Kaelten | class action lawsuits are bullshit anyway |
| 20:28.09 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: nice one |
| 20:28.12 | nevcairiel | and its pretty dumb of apple to try to save money on that |
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| 20:28.41 | Gnarfoz | I hate myself for procrastinating. :F |
| 20:28.48 | nevcairiel | and even dumber to just claim there is no problem |
| 20:28.58 | Mihau | Attachments are back. |
| 20:29.06 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: attachements are fixed, it was misconfigured after a server move |
| 20:29.28 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: save money on what? |
| 20:29.38 | nevcairiel | the antenna |
| 20:30.21 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:30.24 | nevcairiel | now smileys dont work |
| 20:31.16 | nevcairiel | well |
| 20:31.18 | nevcairiel | most smileys dont |
| 20:31.20 | nevcairiel | some do |
| 20:31.21 | nevcairiel | crazy |
| 20:31.36 | Kaelten | smilies are messed up? |
| 20:31.37 | Kaelten | link? |
| 20:31.40 | nevcairiel | http://forums.wowace.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&editorid=vB_Editor_001 |
| 20:31.44 | nevcairiel | smiley overview page |
| 20:31.46 | nevcairiel | most missing |
| 20:31.51 | Kaelten | how were they trying to save money on the atenna? |
| 20:32.05 | nevcairiel | The problem is caused by only using one antenna |
| 20:32.09 | Shefki | I think the problem at this point is Steve Jobs and not the atenna. |
| 20:32.11 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: they are looking for some "antenna specialist" |
| 20:32.18 | Shefki | His replies to people are making the PR problem. |
| 20:32.25 | nevcairiel | so when you place your hand on the wrong part of the phone, you absorb all antenna power into your hand |
| 20:32.29 | Niv | Kaelten: clearly beta invites are going out now? :P |
| 20:32.30 | nevcairiel | so most phones use two antennas |
| 20:32.32 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Not all. |
| 20:32.37 | Niv | ducks |
| 20:32.52 | nevcairiel | Shefki: well not all, but enough to make it suck |
| 20:33.27 | nevcairiel | apparently it can also be fixed by using a plastic protection cover |
| 20:33.29 | Fisker | i don't think EU invites have gone out yet |
| 20:33.35 | Fisker | that or the character copies are down |
| 20:33.38 | Fisker | (as usual) |
| 20:33.46 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Part of the problem is the logarithmic signal strength indicator. |
| 20:33.53 | Shefki | Part of the problem is that AT&T sucks. |
| 20:33.59 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: probably a thin non-conductive coating would have been the best fix honestly |
| 20:34.12 | Kaelten | from what I've read it makes sense to me anyway |
| 20:34.17 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 20:34.19 | Kaelten | but thatmight have other issues |
| 20:34.29 | nevcairiel | the biggest problem with the whole deal was just jobs and his dumb comments on the matter |
| 20:34.35 | nevcairiel | "There is no problem, you're just holding it wrong" |
| 20:34.36 | Shefki | Right. |
| 20:34.45 | Kaelten | ya, normally he does good on the PR thing, that was a lapse in judgement on his part |
| 20:34.54 | Kaelten | if not good at least passable |
| 20:35.03 | Shefki | holding it wrong is so mockable I don't even know where to start. |
| 20:35.07 | Niv | btw |
| 20:35.11 | Niv | I have an iPhone 4 |
| 20:35.14 | Niv | and have no fucking reception problems |
| 20:35.19 | Niv | no matter how I hold it |
| 20:35.29 | Shefki | That's why I think the problem is mostly PR. |
| 20:35.30 | nevcairiel | Was totally expected that everyone else is using that in their ads now |
| 20:35.33 | Kaelten | Niv: same, my reception is much better overall |
| 20:35.37 | Niv | Kaelten: yea |
| 20:35.44 | Kaelten | smilies are back |
| 20:35.52 | Niv | although I did have 4 dropped calls on a conference this morning, but that's just AT&T for you |
| 20:35.56 | Shefki | Anyway I'm happy with my EVO |
| 20:36.02 | Niv | my phone was sitting on my desk |
| 20:36.14 | nevcairiel | I'm still not convinced the evo is worth it |
| 20:36.18 | nevcairiel | seems too much hyped |
| 20:36.28 | Shefki | It's a nice phone as far as I'm concerned. |
| 20:36.29 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: I wonder how much of apple's design changes with the atenna are spurned on by nokia having a patentent for positioning atenna in an optimal way |
| 20:36.33 | Shefki | I didn't get it for the 4g. |
| 20:36.34 | Kaelten | patent* |
| 20:36.41 | Shefki | I got it becuase it was a nice phone, the 4g is just a bonus. |
| 20:37.04 | nevcairiel | wide-spread 4g availability will still be quite a while |
| 20:37.16 | Shefki | For what it's worth, I have 4g in my area. |
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| 20:38.13 | Shefki | The battery life complaints haven't really been an issue for me. |
| 20:38.15 | nevcairiel | I do live in like the second biggest city of germany, so chances are that we will be getting 4g "soon".. not that i would know :) |
| 20:38.31 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Actually that likely means you'll get it later. |
| 20:38.45 | asmodai | http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/30269 |
| 20:38.45 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I'd guess Europe won't get WiMax and will just get LTE. |
| 20:39.00 | Shefki | Sprint seems to be the only carrier anywhere pushing WiMax. |
| 20:39.10 | nevcairiel | well they did say they want to use it to get broadband internet access to areas where DSL is not available |
| 20:39.16 | nevcairiel | and yeah, we dont do wimax, just LTE |
| 20:39.17 | Shefki | And LTE is at least another year out for deployments. |
| 20:39.19 | Kaelten | Shefki: They'll target the densest cities first probably |
| 20:39.28 | Kaelten | dense with good backbones |
| 20:39.57 | nevcairiel | they auctioned off the 4g frequencies just a few month back |
| 20:40.02 | Gnarfoz | <Fisker> i don't think EU invites have gone out yet <-- that's what we all hope. durrr. :X |
| 20:40.06 | nevcairiel | usually takes a while after that to get stuff going |
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| 20:40.39 | Shefki | Kaelten: They will, but I don't think anyone will have LTE available till next summer and some providers may be into 2012 before they have LTE. |
| 20:40.56 | asmodai | ok, ffs, can I please get some blasted wind to cool down the house a bit? ye gods |
| 20:41.15 | Shefki | Though the January iPhone on Verizon thing makes me wonder if Verizon won't start pushing LTE early next year. |
| 20:41.26 | Shefki | It makes sense for Apple to have a LTE iPhone. |
| 20:41.33 | Shefki | Doesn't make sense for them to do a CDMA |
| 20:41.46 | nevcairiel | CDMA should be abandoned |
| 20:42.02 | nevcairiel | i dont think anyone in europe still uses it |
| 20:42.10 | Shefki | I see CDMA lasting for another 5 years in the US. |
| 20:42.19 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It's just a US thing at this point. |
| 20:42.22 | nevcairiel | just use GSM everywhere, or faster nets at that |
| 20:42.32 | Gnarfoz | "still uses it" - nobody ever did |
| 20:42.36 | asmodai | Even Japan and Korea have moved to GSM |
| 20:42.39 | nevcairiel | true, i guess |
| 20:43.00 | Shefki | The only reason the US has it is because Verizon has a massive CDMA infrastructure. |
| 20:43.05 | Shefki | And Sprint. |
| 20:43.16 | Gnarfoz | and they don't like the stuff those dirty euros use |
| 20:43.17 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 20:43.33 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I don't think it's an issue of not liking it. I think it's just an investment thing. |
| 20:43.50 | pompydroid | I'm on my Droid incredible right now..I like it |
| 20:44.00 | Gnarfoz | well, at some point someone made the decision - that's the interesting point; it's obvious they are still using it because they invested in it from that point on forward. |
| 20:44.31 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: CDMA was the first digital mobile phone system deployed in the US. |
| 20:44.39 | Shefki | US got that stuff first, but got stuck with CDMA. |
| 20:45.03 | Shefki | Massive infrastructure gets built. Nobody wants to rebuild it. |
| 20:45.04 | Gnarfoz | CDMA was "first in the US" or "first" - sounds like you're trying to say the latter |
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| 20:45.47 | Gnarfoz | (because again, the "they started out with it, now they're stuck with it" part is obvious and doesn't need analysis, really) |
| 20:45.59 | nevcairiel | man, remember the days of the old C-net |
| 20:46.09 | Gnarfoz | analogue mobile phones! |
| 20:46.18 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I mean it was the first digital phone network deployed in the US. |
| 20:46.22 | Gnarfoz | basically glorified walkie-talkies, lol |
| 20:46.26 | Shefki | GSM wasn't deployed for much longer. |
| 20:46.46 | genetik- | Gnarfoz: i remember being hesitant to switch over to a new digital cell phone |
| 20:46.51 | nevcairiel | we got the digital net in '91, using GSM |
| 20:46.58 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: well, that's great and all; I'm more interested in why "the first" was chosen to be CDMA, not GSM |
| 20:47.13 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: works again |
| 20:47.34 | Gnarfoz | if it is because it was invented/ready first, then that's what my last question was supposed to ask. ;) |
| 20:49.03 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: ? |
| 20:49.20 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: My guess, Qualcomm just did a better job marketing it. |
| 20:49.21 | Fisker | Kaeltenmen |
| 20:49.21 | nevcairiel | works again is always good, don't worry about it :d |
| 20:49.26 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:49.39 | Stanzilla | and the last thing I told you was that CC is not getting updates |
| 20:49.42 | Stanzilla | so "works again" |
| 20:49.44 | Stanzilla | dun dun dun :D |
| 20:49.52 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Also CDMA can serve more phones with fewer towers. |
| 20:50.05 | Fisker | good night sweet Shefki |
| 20:50.10 | Shefki | So it probably seemed to be economically advantageous. |
| 20:50.41 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: it can? interesting |
| 20:50.44 | nevcairiel | I dont actually know the advantages of GSM over CDMA, btu there must be reasons why it stuck around |
| 20:51.24 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.eu/deutschland/a494608.html is mocking me |
| 20:51.59 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:52.31 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Yeah GSM is TDMA, so everything is divided up by time. |
| 20:52.50 | Niv | nevcairiel: japan does CDMA last I checked |
| 20:52.51 | Shefki | Timeslots can only be so small so you can only have so many phones using the same frequency. |
| 20:52.54 | Niv | they dropped GSM for it largely |
| 20:53.09 | Niv | as do a few other countries |
| 20:53.13 | nevcairiel | Niv: asmodai just claimed the opposite |
| 20:53.24 | Shefki | With GSM each phone can only be active during it's assigned time slot. |
| 20:53.40 | nevcairiel | sounds like w-lan |
| 20:53.42 | Shefki | CDMA can have all phones active because they are modulated with coding. |
| 20:54.19 | Gnarfoz | GSM doesn't do modulation? |
| 20:54.20 | Niv | nevcairiel: http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/ |
| 20:54.29 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: GSM is TDMA |
| 20:54.33 | Niv | uh |
| 20:54.34 | Niv | no |
| 20:54.34 | Shefki | So it modulates by time slots. |
| 20:54.53 | Niv | well |
| 20:54.57 | Niv | I guess TDMA is used by gsm |
| 20:55.02 | Shefki | For voice it is. |
| 20:55.06 | Niv | right |
| 20:55.19 | Shefki | We're talking about the historical reasons for the US having a large CDMA deployement. |
| 20:55.29 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:55.32 | Shefki | Data stuff is a whole different ballpark. |
| 20:55.35 | Shefki | And is much newer. |
| 20:55.45 | Niv | one of the major carriers had a lot of TDMA around pre GSM |
| 20:55.48 | Niv | was it verizon? |
| 20:55.56 | Niv | CDMA is certainly superior tech |
| 20:56.04 | Shefki | Niv: SprintPCS was TDMA initially I believe. |
| 20:56.09 | Niv | but there is something to be said for a standard |
| 20:56.14 | Niv | Shefki: yea, that sounds right |
| 20:56.34 | Shefki | IIRC Sprint did their initial roll out in like Washington DC with a TDMA technology. |
| 20:56.36 | Gnarfoz | <Niv> CDMA is certainly superior tech <-- how so? that was part of my initial question |
| 20:56.43 | Shefki | And then eventually dumped it and moved everyone to CDMA |
| 20:56.52 | Niv | you know that most 3G uses CDMA right? |
| 20:56.53 | Niv | ;P |
| 20:57.00 | Niv | at least |
| 20:57.02 | Niv | based on CDMA |
| 20:57.18 | Shefki | CDMA as a term is confusing. |
| 20:57.18 | Gnarfoz | "most" being "the US" |
| 20:57.23 | Niv | and in fact, the spec for CDMA provided what was more or less a sim card |
| 20:57.25 | Shefki | There's CDMA as a coding standard. |
| 20:57.26 | nevcairiel | we're talking about the network, not the tech concept |
| 20:57.27 | Niv | it just didn't get used |
| 20:57.35 | Shefki | And then there's CDMAone and CDMA2000 that most people just call CDMA |
| 20:58.08 | Niv | right, verizon's net is cdma2000 |
| 20:58.08 | Shefki | Everyone has abandoned TDMA as a modulation technique and are using CDMA techniques, but that doesn't mean they are CDMAone or CDMA2000 |
| 20:58.52 | Niv | pretty much everyone is going to LTE though right? |
| 20:58.54 | Niv | over time |
| 20:59.22 | Shefki | The only major carrier in the US that hasn't committed to LTE is Sprint. |
| 20:59.32 | Shefki | And even they have said "We could just convert our WiMax to LTE" |
| 20:59.34 | Niv | fucking sprint |
| 20:59.51 | Shefki | T-Mobile has been somewhat iffy on LTE too, but they're probably going that way. |
| 21:00.09 | Shefki | Sprint I think is sitting back and letting everyone else deploy LTE, decide if it's worth itt. |
| 21:00.10 | nevcairiel | t-mobile here is actually jumping on LTE |
| 21:00.21 | nevcairiel | but is probably completely different companys |
| 21:00.25 | nevcairiel | even though they originate here |
| 21:00.32 | MysticalOS | wow 909 comments on an article posted only hours ago :o |
| 21:00.33 | Niv | I've actually been away from the cell race for about 7 years |
| 21:00.37 | Niv | actually |
| 21:00.38 | Niv | almost 10 years |
| 21:00.46 | Niv | so I'm not keeping up as well as I could |
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| 21:03.12 | Shefki | Sprint doesn't really need LTE, and WiMax hardware is close enough to LTE they can switch fairly easily. |
| 21:03.21 | Shefki | There's actually discussion about merging WiMax and LTE. |
| 21:03.36 | Shefki | So that may be why Sprint isn't saying much about LTE. |
| 21:04.09 | Niv | fuck wimax |
| 21:04.25 | Xtek | My city was the first city to demo WiMax and at the time it was about 16Mbps until people starting buying it, now it's like 3-4Mbps |
| 21:04.29 | Shefki | Also Sprint saying they'd be going LTE would undermine their current WiMax advantage. |
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| 21:11.48 | asmodai | wonders how T-Mobile USA fits into the entire T-Mobile picture. Last time I worked for T-Mobile in NL at least all of Europe synchronised the plans for technologies |
| 21:12.06 | Gnarfoz | they basically don't |
| 21:12.07 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:12.49 | Niv | it's bascially still voicestream |
| 21:12.55 | Niv | owned by t-mobile |
| 21:13.07 | vhaarr | seriously what the hell with the instant spirits on LK |
| 21:13.08 | Gnarfoz | voicestream itself consisted of multiple companies it acquired |
| 21:13.19 | Niv | I went from western wireless -> voicestream -> t-mobile as they did |
| 21:13.26 | Gnarfoz | so that point is kind of moot. they are t-mobile USA, a daughter company of Deutsche Telekom |
| 21:13.34 | Niv | voicestream was the best cell company I've ever used |
| 21:13.42 | Niv | and t-mobile usa was much the same experience |
| 21:13.50 | asmodai | Ah yes, I remember that take over |
| 21:13.57 | asmodai | Was during my period |
| 21:14.10 | Niv | I've been screwed by AT&T, verizon, and spirint |
| 21:14.13 | Niv | sprint more than the others |
| 21:14.15 | Niv | fuck sprint |
| 21:14.17 | Niv | and claire |
| 21:14.23 | Niv | and whoever thought her up |
| 21:14.34 | Gnarfoz | claire who? |
| 21:14.42 | asmodai | claire bear! |
| 21:14.44 | Niv | she was the automated CSR they used |
| 21:14.44 | Gnarfoz | let me guess, advertising mascot of some sort? |
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| 21:15.01 | Niv | back when they charged $5 to talk to a real person |
| 21:15.04 | Niv | late 90s iirc |
| 21:15.06 | Gnarfoz | they're giving names to computer voices now :o |
| 21:15.12 | Niv | she was an AI system |
| 21:15.14 | Niv | like eliza |
| 21:15.16 | Niv | more or less |
| 21:15.20 | Niv | but voice activated |
| 21:15.28 | Gnarfoz | who the fuck would use that for customer hotlines |
| 21:15.30 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:15.31 | Niv | I used to chant "Fuck you claire!" at it until I got a person |
| 21:15.35 | Niv | sprint owuld |
| 21:15.49 | Gnarfoz | obviously |
| 21:15.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:15.55 | Adirelle | kagaro, do you want a new feature to add to chatter ? a way to counter the server-side saving of chat frame positions |
| 21:16.28 | Adirelle | using 2 two computers with different resolutions (and aspect ratio) is going to be a nightmare |
| 21:17.45 | Niv | some reviews from the time |
| 21:17.46 | Niv | "Claire's there on the phone -- this butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth voice, all cheery and spunky. Ha! she still can't help with anything! The only time I talk to Claire is to get my ten or twelve monthly credits for dropped calls. Sometimes Claire has a pushbutton menu, sometimes whe responds to voice commands. If she doesn't know what you're talking about, she'll send you to technical support. My experience has been that you usualy end up wit |
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| 21:22.34 | Repo | -cleanup adding Faction info, this addresses the race condition concerns (Ticket #7) |
| 21:24.29 | nevcairiel | Reminder: Please update Ace3 to alpha and see if anything broke that was missed until now, so i can do a release on the weekend =) |
| 21:24.33 | nevcairiel | wanders off to bed |
| 21:25.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7508 Citadel/LichKing.lua: |
| 21:25.42 | Repo | No need for whispers,fns,etc on raging spirits any more, since they are fucking instant. |
| 21:26.28 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: what needs testing? |
| 21:26.51 | nevcairiel | nothing special, just update and do whatever it is you always do |
| 21:27.12 | kagaro | Adirelle: that would be eaasy enough, just setting SetChatWindowSavedPosition = function() end |
| 21:27.26 | kagaro | but not sure it it will mess with the layout chache |
| 21:27.35 | nevcairiel | anyway, really sleep now! |
| 21:28.47 | kagaro | granted im guessing that is the function that pushes to the server |
| 21:29.01 | Adirelle | kagaro, right, you might have to save and restore positions yourself |
| 21:29.05 | kagaro | maybe |
| 21:29.28 | Pneumatus | raging spirits are instant now :o |
| 21:29.30 | Pneumatus | bad times |
| 21:30.14 | kagaro | i suppose a SetChatWindowSavedPosition = function(id,x,y) _G["ChatFrame"..id]:SetUserPlaced(true) end would just save it in the layout cache |
| 21:30.21 | Niv | Pneumatus: what? |
| 21:30.33 | Niv | oh |
| 21:30.34 | Niv | the spawn is |
| 21:30.35 | Niv | sure |
| 21:30.40 | Niv | it's so easy to deal with |
| 21:30.47 | Niv | they don't aggro for a couple seconds |
| 21:30.49 | kagaro | ill try it later on tonoght |
| 21:31.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:C-Net_Logo.png that could just as well have been the CCC's logo. :D |
| 21:35.50 | Adirelle | kagaro, actually, FCF_RestorePositionAndDimensions sets userplaced if GetChatWindowSavedPosition returns something meaningful |
| 21:36.16 | Adirelle | but GetChatWindowSavedDimensions is used anyway to update the frame size |
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| 21:36.52 | Repo | Added missing spellids for meteor strike and twilight cutter. Meteor strike has from logs i've seen so far 10 spellids, 4 for impact zone, at least 6 for standing in fire, with variations in damage based on where in fire(maybe more?) |
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| 22:21.41 | MysticalOS | is there an api to request the name of server you're currently playing on? |
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| 22:22.20 | Repo | -added the ruby sanctum |
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| 22:23.50 | vhaarr | GetRealmName, surprisingly |
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| 22:29.30 | Adirelle | kagaro, I put something together http://paste.wowace.com/zp1yxib3mr97dval/ ; with profile you can copy position between chars |
| 22:31.19 | Adirelle | hrm actually it seems there something bad with the position, like the point not being saved |
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| 22:34.20 | kagaro | wierd, when i get on ill look some more |
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| 22:57.38 | Adirelle | kagaro, after some testing, this works: http://paste.wowace.com/ovki67xzuemhc3yt/ |
| 22:57.51 | Adirelle | using server-side values as database defaults wasn't a good idea |
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| 23:30.15 | kagaro | Adirelle im integrating that code now |
| 23:30.32 | Adirelle | ok |
| 23:31.47 | kagaro | hrmm it will dork size on load if you were using a diff size |
| 23:32.27 | kagaro | i use a small size than the default |
| 23:32.36 | kagaro | so had to resize and reposition it |
| 23:34.37 | GER|koaschten | the goodie list for the collectors edition was just listed in one of the ads of a big retailer |
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| 23:36.22 | GER|koaschten | no idea what made me chuckle more, the 2gb usb stick with starcraft 1 + broodwars or the wow mini thor pet |
| 23:39.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03zhTW * r7509 Citadel/Locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
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| 23:45.46 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r261 Note/Note.lua: Workaround for the attempt to index local 'fb' error. |
| 23:46.18 | kagaro | seems to work ok Adirelle |
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