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| 01:08.31 | Hjalte | How can I fail so badly at the torch juggling achievement? I have 15 torches and never get more than 37/40. I've got 85 ms. |
| 01:18.11 | Hjalte | I just broke my fingers and got the achivement. |
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| 01:24.31 | Primer | We are unable to detect Java on your computer. Please Download Java. |
| 01:24.32 | Primer | haha no thanks! |
| 01:40.38 | Megalon | installs java all over Primer |
| 01:40.59 | kagaro | the juggling in dalran sucks if you hve any lag |
| 01:41.07 | kagaro | took me 5 tries |
| 01:41.36 | Primer | casts 64 bit browser in Linux on Megalon |
| 01:44.49 | Megalon | OH NOEEEEE-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 01:45.05 | Megalon | http://www.own3d.tv/video/27843/MyStarCraft.de_-_Speed_Drawing_-_Zealot/?HD |
| 01:45.12 | Megalon | nice.. zealot |
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| 02:05.41 | harl | http://wtfismygearscore.com/gearscore.php?n=Chaydunios&s=Perenolde&r=EU |
| 02:05.58 | harl | whatever that tells me.. or nothing at all |
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| 02:34.43 | Zyn- | it tells you are too poorly geared to even do heroics, in the casual player eyes |
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| 04:33.05 | Primer | So what's up with developer points? None have been assessed in the last 3 days |
| 04:33.19 | Primer | I've been waiting for 2000 so I can cash out and apply $100 to a new video card |
| 04:34.11 | Torhal | Primer: Read the announcement on wowace.com |
| 04:34.16 | Torhal | Not the forums. |
| 04:34.17 | Primer | errr |
| 04:35.18 | Primer | dammit, I'll probably end up with fewer points when it comes back too! |
| 04:37.05 | Torhal | Only for a few days - the point generation routine was accidentally run a few extra times because it wasn't being reflected in the logs. |
| 04:37.18 | Torhal | You'll still get points, but they'll be lower to make up for those you already got in advance. |
| 04:37.23 | Torhal | Then they'll normalize. |
| 04:37.37 | Primer | well, one of my addons has generated zero points for me so far |
| 04:37.42 | Primer | and I know people are using it |
| 04:38.43 | Torhal | Using doesn't mean premium Curse Client install base. That's what matters - the points come from premium member subscription money. |
| 04:38.56 | Primer | ahhh I was not aware |
| 04:39.20 | Torhal | 20% of the revenue from premium subscriptions goes to the authors. |
| 04:39.36 | Primer | that's very nice of curse |
| 04:39.40 | Torhal | ...but only if those premium users have it installed. |
| 04:39.51 | Primer | I never expected anything, but it's good to get it |
| 04:40.04 | Primer | I never setup a donation thing either...thought that was cheesy |
| 04:41.40 | Torhal | Quite a few authors didn't set one up until they received complaints from users who wanted to donate. |
| 04:41.43 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 04:43.36 | WobWork | I just need another month |
| 04:43.38 | WobWork | or so |
| 04:43.40 | WobWork | and I cash out |
| 04:43.58 | Primer | I wanted to get an nvidia 480gtx |
| 04:44.10 | Primer | replace my aging 8800gtx |
| 04:44.40 | WobWork | ... it's not aging =P |
| 04:44.44 | WobWork | mine is still going strong! |
| 04:45.07 | Primer | mine's 3+ years old |
| 04:45.11 | Primer | I got it on day 0 |
| 04:45.27 | WobWork | pretty much the same |
| 04:45.33 | WobWork | maybe not day 0 |
| 04:45.48 | WobWork | but it still does just what I need to |
| 04:45.53 | WobWork | and it's not like WoW stresses it out =P |
| 04:46.15 | Primer | yeah, I play WoW at 1920x1200 |
| 04:46.34 | Primer | since that's the native rez of this 25.5" LCD |
| 04:46.41 | Primer | but other games at that rez...not so good |
| 04:47.53 | Torhal | Primer: For WoW, with your 8800gtx, you'll get a better performance boost from a more powerful processor. |
| 04:48.30 | Torhal | I don't know what Cataclysm will bring, but the current WoW engine is heavily CPU-intensive and doesn't utilize the GPU much at all. |
| 04:48.36 | Primer | my processor is also old...3+ years...c2d E6600 (2.4ghz |
| 04:48.37 | Torhal | It's still on 2004 tech in that refards |
| 04:48.37 | Primer | ) |
| 04:48.49 | Torhal | s/refards/regards/ |
| 04:48.59 | Primer | Yes, I understand CPU-bound vs. GPU-bound |
| 04:49.24 | Torhal | I have a 9800GTX+ and I was getting shitty frame rates until I went from a 2.4GHz quad core to a 3.1GHz dual-core |
| 04:49.42 | Primer | But WoW's not threaded, is it? |
| 04:50.37 | Torhal | Not very well. There's a thread for the sound subsystem and a thread for the game/Lua |
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| 04:50.58 | Torhal | Just increasing my MHz gave me a 20FPS boost |
| 04:51.16 | Primer | Not sure how much more I can upgrade. My MB is the EVGA 680i |
| 04:51.43 | Primer | which, as I understand, can support one generation higher CPU than I have |
| 04:51.54 | Torhal | Supports Intel Core 2 Extreme, Core 2 Quad, and Core 2 Duo |
| 04:52.24 | Torhal | You could replace your board/CPU for the price of a new nVidia card |
| 04:52.48 | Primer | well...I have to do this on the down-low |
| 04:54.01 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 04v3.2.11 * 9821982 /: [new tag] Tagging as release v3.2.11. Remember kids, an apple a day keeps the raptors away. |
| 04:54.30 | Primer | which is why I need the curse dough |
| 04:55.44 | Primer | and to bill some of my clients |
| 04:56.04 | Primer | and convince my wife I need a new video car |
| 04:56.05 | Primer | d |
| 04:56.50 | Torhal | I think you should convince her that any money you generate through your hobby is yours to support your hobby. |
| 04:56.52 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 04:57.07 | Primer | except a 480gtx costs $500 |
| 04:57.31 | Torhal | Hey, if it's all hobby-generated money... |
| 04:57.33 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:57.35 | Primer | technically, this is the same machine I use to work...and I do work from home a lot, so it's a tax write-off |
| 04:59.05 | WobWork | Primer: That means I could use my cashin =) |
| 05:02.56 | Primer | Seems my realm died |
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| 05:03.29 | Primer | or auth died |
| 05:05.07 | Primer | I can login but I can't connect to any realm |
| 05:07.51 | Primer | I can login to forums |
| 05:11.20 | Primer | Anyone unable to connect to their realm? |
| 05:11.24 | Aens|Superiority | a guildie is having the same problem at the moment |
| 05:11.38 | Primer | I can login, but can't connect to any realm |
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| 05:22.57 | Primer | I think it's a routing issue |
| 05:23.03 | Primer | back-hoe syndrome? |
| 05:23.12 | Primer | I can't get to some web sites |
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| 05:37.09 | Primer | this is fucked |
| 05:37.13 | Primer | I can't get on several realms |
| 05:37.50 | Primer | some work, some don't |
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| 06:14.09 | asmodai | morning |
| 06:15.53 | asmodai | Shadowed: xkcd reference wrt raptors? |
| 06:16.50 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2691 Core/AtlasLoot.lua: Prep for v5.11.02 |
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| 06:23.34 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2692 / (3 files in 3 directories): TCG loot update |
| 06:24.07 | asmodai | morning Elkano |
| 06:27.18 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 045.11.02 * r2693 : Tagging as 5.11.02 |
| 06:28.30 | sbu | yay, credit card company called - they locked my card because of suspicious payments to "github" :/ |
| 06:28.36 | asmodai | >_< |
| 06:28.46 | asmodai | wtf would that be suspicious |
| 06:29.23 | sbu | oh wait, amazon + github, 9 eur and $7 |
| 06:29.24 | SunTsu | sbu: the whole "open source" thing is suspicious - especially if you pay for it instead of making money |
| 06:32.54 | Elkano | ãã¯ãããããã¾ãasmodaiããã |
| 06:39.28 | Groktar | SEVEN DOLLARS? |
| 06:39.36 | Groktar | someone is h4x0ring your card |
| 06:40.20 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE-JN7_rxtE |
| 06:40.53 | asmodai | that's just ... |
| 06:42.59 | Primer | argh, does anyone know the name of the WG text frame? |
| 06:43.32 | Primer | or the pvp arena team frame? |
| 06:44.09 | Torhal | Primer: WorldStateFrame, perhaps? |
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| 06:49.40 | asmodai | rofl |
| 06:49.44 | asmodai | road sign in the US: |
| 06:49.53 | asmodai | Honk if you love Jesus, text while driving if you want to meet him |
| 07:00.26 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r244 LibFail-1.0.lua: (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 07:00.29 | Repo | *Improved malleable goo behavior to fail you if one of following conditions happen (instead of just debuff/death) |
| 07:00.30 | Repo | 1. You take more than 10k damage (debuff or not, you ate it like a champ you deserve recognition) |
| 07:00.31 | Repo | 2. You die from it |
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| 07:00.35 | Repo | 3. You took less than 10k (grats you used a CD or your disc priests saved you) but You still got cast debuff. |
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| 07:18.59 | Primer | ARRGGGH I simply cannot find the frame to move that text in MoveAnything |
| 07:19.46 | Torhal | Try hovering over it and typing: /dump GetMouseFocus() |
| 07:19.59 | Primer | except I can't access it via name |
| 07:20.13 | Primer | it's all accessed via this menu |
| 07:20.29 | Primer | and since it was last updated, many things moved...as in, lost their config, I'm guessing |
| 07:21.07 | Primer | WorldFrame[0] ? |
| 07:21.23 | Primer | doh, must have missed it |
| 07:21.26 | Primer | now I have more |
| 07:22.16 | Primer | or not |
| 07:23.15 | Torhal | I didn't say GetMouseFocus():GetName() :D |
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| 07:25.33 | Elkano | try: /framestack |
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| 07:26.45 | Primer | AlwaysUIpFrame1 |
| 07:26.47 | Primer | AlwaysUpFrame1 |
| 07:28.15 | Primer | it seems these frames are separate |
| 07:28.35 | Primer | it's the WG text which right now shows the Horde icon with "Horde Controlled" text next to it |
| 07:28.51 | Primer | then "Next Battle: 1:23:45" |
| 07:28.59 | Primer | but they're separate |
| 07:29.33 | Primer | the other is AlwaysUpFrame2 |
| 07:29.48 | Fisker | mr. Elkano |
| 07:30.04 | Elkano | Mrs. Fisker? |
| 07:30.06 | Fisker | no |
| 07:34.46 | Repo | 10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r8 Bases/Slider.lua: Some minor updates for "slider" |
| 07:38.50 | asmodai | mmm |
| 07:38.53 | asmodai | 2 cloak drops I could use |
| 07:38.58 | asmodai | not bad |
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| 07:44.01 | Primer | bah, this addon is just broken |
| 07:44.06 | Primer | I move the frame, and it moves back |
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| 07:46.44 | jnwhiteh | its constantly being placed by WoW |
| 07:46.58 | jnwhiteh | overwrite the SetPoint and ClearPoint methods and it won't go anywhere =) |
| 07:48.12 | Primer | I have moved it though |
| 07:48.36 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 07:48.40 | jnwhiteh | you complained about it moving back |
| 07:48.46 | jnwhiteh | I told you one way to fix that |
| 07:49.01 | jnwhiteh | not sure why the fact that you moved it is relevant =) |
| 07:49.04 | Primer | right now it's over one of my pitbull frames |
| 07:50.00 | Primer | it seems this frame is inside WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
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| 07:53.52 | Primer | Soooo |
| 07:54.02 | Primer | How do I do what you suggested? |
| 07:54.20 | Primer | /run WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame:SetPoint(.... |
| 07:56.33 | Fisker | mr. you just got stopped Primer |
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| 07:57.36 | Primer | finally |
| 07:57.39 | Primer | moved |
| 07:59.50 | asmodai | stops Fisker |
| 08:00.13 | Fisker | no u asmodai |
| 08:00.17 | Fisker | i'm sick btw |
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| 08:02.12 | Megalon | vuvuzelas |
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| 08:08.38 | asmodai | Megalon: heh |
| 08:08.42 | asmodai | Megalon: it's a verb now? |
| 08:08.58 | sbu | its anything you want it to be |
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| 08:09.01 | sbu | fiskers |
| 08:09.10 | asmodai | Fisker: sick sick or sick in your head? |
| 08:09.18 | sbu | asmodai: do you really care? :p |
| 08:09.38 | Megalon | just assumes it is the killing kind of sick |
| 08:09.42 | Megalon | and vuvuzela |
| 08:09.46 | Megalon | BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 08:10.13 | renchap | Vuvuzelas kills Repo. |
| 08:10.22 | Megalon | it kills |
| 08:10.26 | Megalon | EVERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYTHING |
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| 08:11.20 | asmodai | sbu: polite and all that |
| 08:11.32 | asmodai | 10:10 |
| 08:11.35 | asmodai | got to love cron |
| 08:12.00 | Fisker | no asmodai |
| 08:12.06 | Megalon | cron is the repeating cancer killing |
| 08:12.13 | Fisker | Megalon mon you ruined my vuvuzela |
| 08:12.23 | Megalon | and i enjoyed it |
| 08:13.07 | Fisker | they need to vuvuzela up every 'movie trailer' |
| 08:14.58 | Megalon | dexters Fisker |
| 08:15.18 | Fisker | Megalon asmodai |
| 08:15.26 | Megalon | enjoys |
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| 08:19.52 | Wizardling | Grrr curse.com sucks |
| 08:20.06 | Wizardling | I have to delete curse cookies every time I want to login |
| 08:20.10 | Wizardling | now I get: |
| 08:20.12 | Wizardling | We apologize, but an unknown error occurred while attempting to verify your credentials. Please try again. |
| 08:20.19 | Wizardling | despite deleting cookies |
| 08:20.24 | Primer | yeah, I've complained about that many times |
| 08:20.25 | Wizardling | friggin' useless site |
| 08:21.00 | Wizardling | God they should just shut down. They clearly have no clue. |
| 08:21.18 | jnwhiteh | Curse the company does. |
| 08:21.21 | Wizardling | They're the biggest PITA to use anyway. |
| 08:21.21 | jnwhiteh | Curse the website, does not =/ |
| 08:21.28 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: how do you figure? |
| 08:21.36 | jnwhiteh | Curse client -> Install addons |
| 08:21.39 | jnwhiteh | How's that a PITA? |
| 08:22.09 | Wizardling | Ads, loud messy site, Flash required for manual addon download, useless support, the ongoing login/cookie issue... |
| 08:22.15 | jnwhiteh | That is the website |
| 08:22.19 | jnwhiteh | and its far from the only one |
| 08:22.19 | Wizardling | I mean the cookie issue alone is YEARS old |
| 08:22.22 | jnwhiteh | I _never_ use Curse.com |
| 08:22.22 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: You have to use a client, why couldn't they make a client-less technology |
| 08:22.24 | jnwhiteh | and I don't need to |
| 08:22.25 | Wizardling | I wish I was joking |
| 08:22.27 | Wizardling | but YEARS |
| 08:22.31 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: they do, curseforge.com/wowace.com |
| 08:22.41 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: I've been here longer than you have, your hyperbole is wasted on me. |
| 08:22.45 | Kalroth | a browser is a client too, you're trying to trick me |
| 08:22.54 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: no, you're being obtuse.. there's a different =) |
| 08:22.59 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:23.02 | Wizardling | I far prefer wowinterface. But sadly some authors persist in only using god awful curse |
| 08:23.03 | Shadowed | The flash requirement is more of a product of wowmatrix |
| 08:23.03 | Wizardling | uggg |
| 08:23.04 | Kalroth | what does obtuse mean |
| 08:23.08 | Kalroth | can you tell me please |
| 08:23.12 | Kalroth | what does it reall mean! |
| 08:23.20 | jnwhiteh | yes, blame wowmatrix for that bit =/ |
| 08:23.28 | jnwhiteh | but again, I never have to visit Curse.com |
| 08:23.36 | Shadowed | Ads are a fact of websites |
| 08:23.36 | Wizardling | "hyperbole"? Are you serious? You think I'm joiking about years? |
| 08:23.38 | Shadowed | even WoWI has ads |
| 08:23.42 | jnwhiteh | No, I'm not. |
| 08:24.19 | Wizardling | I can show you the tickets I've made. They oldest are YEARS old. |
| 08:24.19 | Shadowed | What you are saying is hyperbole |
| 08:24.22 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 08:24.22 | jnwhiteh | dude. |
| 08:24.26 | jnwhiteh | I have been here longer than you are |
| 08:24.28 | jnwhiteh | why are you telling me? |
| 08:24.34 | jnwhiteh | I'm aware of the issue |
| 08:24.46 | Wizardling | I'm venting. What does it look like? |
| 08:24.54 | Wizardling | And is it actually unexpected? |
| 08:24.55 | jnwhiteh | and I said it was wasted on me |
| 08:24.59 | jnwhiteh | I stand by that statement |
| 08:25.04 | Wizardling | so why respond? |
| 08:25.10 | jnwhiteh | because someone was wrong on the internet. |
| 08:25.14 | Wizardling | You clearly want something. |
| 08:25.16 | Shadowed | and he couldn't sleep because of that |
| 08:25.17 | jnwhiteh | 1. You don't need to login to curse to use it |
| 08:25.23 | Wizardling | Yes I do |
| 08:25.30 | jnwhiteh | And why is that? |
| 08:25.31 | Wizardling | To favourite an addon I must login |
| 08:25.41 | jnwhiteh | Well that has nothing to do with getting an addon =) |
| 08:25.46 | jnwhiteh | So you want to use the site in a specific way |
| 08:25.46 | Shadowed | You don't need to login to Curse to use it, if you want to take advantage of the features you have to register |
| 08:25.50 | Shadowed | but you aren't *Required* |
| 08:25.58 | Wizardling | sadly it's the only easy way to be sure I know it's updated (if it's ... uggg... curse only) |
| 08:26.00 | jnwhiteh | why not use bookmarks in your browser |
| 08:26.08 | jnwhiteh | and RSS feeds |
| 08:26.12 | jnwhiteh | no login required! |
| 08:26.34 | Wizardling | I'm sorry - are you actually suggesting it's reasonable to check individual addon pages? |
| 08:26.38 | Shadowed | yes |
| 08:26.39 | jnwhiteh | Duur. |
| 08:26.41 | jnwhiteh | I said rss feeds |
| 08:26.43 | jnwhiteh | pay attentino |
| 08:26.44 | Wizardling | I DO use the curse RSS feature |
| 08:26.53 | jnwhiteh | Trust me, I have more frustration with Curse.com than you can possibly imagine |
| 08:26.56 | Wizardling | the RSS feed is... wait for it... of my favourited addons |
| 08:27.01 | Wizardling | back to square one |
| 08:27.08 | jnwhiteh | You can get a per-addon feed, afaik. |
| 08:27.14 | Wizardling | I must login to favourite a bastard curse only addon |
| 08:27.14 | jnwhiteh | without needing favorited |
| 08:27.20 | jnwhiteh | so we're back to my suggestion |
| 08:27.21 | jnwhiteh | kthx. |
| 08:27.48 | Wizardling | and the per-addon feed is... where? |
| 08:27.55 | Wizardling | taps foot |
| 08:28.01 | jnwhiteh | dunno, I understood there was one, and may be wronfg. |
| 08:28.06 | Shadowed | I don't see one clad, but it's not really hard to check individual addons |
| 08:28.30 | jnwhiteh | sounds like a good suggestion that won't ever get implemented |
| 08:28.32 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 08:28.38 | Wizardling | orders a drink while I wait. No, no. Take your time. |
| 08:28.47 | Shadowed | Look it's simple |
| 08:28.48 | jnwhiteh | You'll be waiting a long time |
| 08:28.54 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (~s_m@193.165.209.194) |
| 08:29.05 | Shadowed | You are not required to register to download addons or use the site. If you want to take advantage of features that save you time, you have to register |
| 08:29.14 | Wizardling | Yes, since there is NONE I will be, won't I. |
| 08:29.33 | jnwhiteh | 1. Create an account using mailcatch.com with no personal details, 2. Download the Curse Client, 3. ??? 4. Profit! |
| 08:29.42 | jnwhiteh | Do whatever you want |
| 08:29.45 | jnwhiteh | just stop bitching about it. |
| 08:29.51 | Wizardling | But please don't let that dissuade you from being a smug arsehole. |
| 08:29.57 | jnwhiteh | .. .I'm being smug/ |
| 08:30.00 | jnwhiteh | Re-read the conversation |
| 08:30.16 | jnwhiteh | I've agreed with you about Curse having problems, and shared your frustration. |
| 08:30.26 | jnwhiteh | I've tried to get more information from oyu about your specific usage of the website that causes you issues |
| 08:30.27 | Wizardling | and been a jerk |
| 08:30.35 | Wizardling | so thanks for wasting my time |
| 08:30.37 | Wizardling | goodbye |
| 08:30.38 | Shadowed | Curses site is actually a lot better than it used to be :> |
| 08:30.41 | jnwhiteh | I've tried to present you with alternatives, that you've completely ignored in some cases, to help you along. |
| 08:30.47 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: I am going nowhere, you should know that by now. |
| 08:30.47 | Wizardling | LOL |
| 08:30.54 | Wizardling | There is NO RSS feed per addon |
| 08:31.07 | Shadowed | He also suggested the curse client |
| 08:31.08 | Wizardling | so your solution is... what? |
| 08:31.14 | jnwhiteh | yes, and I said I was possibly wrong. |
| 08:31.18 | jnwhiteh | first use wowace/curseforge |
| 08:31.39 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (Next96@118.32.87.171) |
| 08:31.42 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/addons/hudmap/files.rss |
| 08:31.43 | jnwhiteh | oh yeah, remember that suggestion that I've given twice and you've completely ignored? |
| 08:31.45 | Antiarc | Oh schnaps. |
| 08:31.50 | jnwhiteh | so fuck off dude. |
| 08:31.52 | Antiarc | (I hacked wowace to add that) |
| 08:31.58 | Shadowed | oh huh |
| 08:31.59 | Wizardling | Oh, well I'll hand things over to a useless crap client that screwed my addon install several times before I realised manual updating was far, far easier and less likely to go wrong. |
| 08:32.03 | Shadowed | Antiarc: where did you see that? |
| 08:32.04 | jnwhiteh | .... |
| 08:32.07 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: Ignore it again. |
| 08:32.10 | jnwhiteh | Just keep ignoring it. |
| 08:32.13 | Antiarc | Shadowed: I went to the page and clicked the RSS icon in my browser. |
| 08:32.15 | jnwhiteh | Who's being the ass now? |
| 08:32.16 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 08:32.25 | Kalroth | And you're calling me obtuse! |
| 08:32.26 | Shadowed | Chrome does not seem to have an RSS icon |
| 08:32.33 | jnwhiteh | Do you have any addons on Curse.com that aren't on wowace/curseforge |
| 08:32.36 | jnwhiteh | which have active developers |
| 08:32.40 | jnwhiteh | and features like per-addon rss feeds? |
| 08:32.48 | Wizardling | Want a screenshot of curse.com addon pages in Firefox? No RSS feed identified. |
| 08:32.51 | jnwhiteh | If you do, then maybe we can suggest something else. |
| 08:32.54 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: wow. |
| 08:33.03 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: open your web browser, click the location bar, adn type http://curseforge.com |
| 08:33.17 | jnwhiteh | find the SOURCE of the addons you're looking for |
| 08:33.19 | Torhal | Wizardling: Dude. Do what he said. EVERYTHING on Curse comes from WoWAce or CurseForge. |
| 08:33.20 | jnwhiteh | and have everything you want. |
| 08:33.35 | jnwhiteh | OR do you want to just continue ignoring the suggestion I've made four times now. |
| 08:33.36 | Shadowed | Can you even upload to Curse without going through CF/WA |
| 08:33.48 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: I think so, but I don't know of anyone that does |
| 08:34.06 | jnwhiteh | It's okay, I'll have a drink while I wait. |
| 08:34.08 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 08:34.09 | Shadowed | haha |
| 08:34.30 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 08:34.31 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 04v4.0.0-beta10 * 43bbe7d /: [new tag] Tagging as v4.0.0-beta10 |
| 08:34.33 | Wizardling | Ok, that is handy |
| 08:34.40 | jnwhiteh | You're welcome. |
| 08:34.40 | Wizardling | and would seem to work |
| 08:34.41 | Kalroth | hugs Repo. |
| 08:34.51 | Shadowed | No I don't think you can jnwhiteh |
| 08:34.59 | Shadowed | When you do upload your addon on the Curse site it brings you to CF |
| 08:35.07 | Wizardling | So, curse.com needs to be deleted and it's devs fired. |
| 08:35.10 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: then problem solved |
| 08:35.15 | Shefki | Shadowed: You can upload zips to curseforge. |
| 08:35.15 | Shadowed | so yea |
| 08:35.18 | Shadowed | Basically stop whining |
| 08:35.20 | Shefki | Shadowed: But that's it. |
| 08:35.27 | Shadowed | Right Shefki, but that should still have the RSS stuff |
| 08:35.35 | Shadowed | since I believe curseforge and wowace are the sameish backend? |
| 08:35.36 | jnwhiteh | which is the issue at hand |
| 08:35.40 | jnwhiteh | indeed. |
| 08:35.44 | Shefki | Shadowed: Yeah, sorry I have no idea what the conversation is about, just looked in. |
| 08:35.56 | Shadowed | Just someone complaining and won't believe they're wrong |
| 08:35.58 | Antiarc | You know, if Curse is failing so badly, that might indicate a market opportunity. Why not try providing a superior service? :) |
| 08:36.04 | Wizardling | It's about curse.com being a piece of crap |
| 08:36.12 | jnwhiteh | No one here will disagree with you |
| 08:36.13 | Wizardling | I was right, thank you |
| 08:36.16 | Wizardling | it is broken |
| 08:36.18 | jnwhiteh | but there are alternatives, as we've clearly shown |
| 08:36.20 | jnwhiteh | and we were right, thank you |
| 08:36.21 | Wizardling | it is never fixed |
| 08:36.23 | jnwhiteh | there are alternatives |
| 08:36.27 | Shadowed | Ah yea, you do get a RSS for CF too |
| 08:36.30 | jnwhiteh | you don't ever have to visit it |
| 08:36.38 | Shadowed | Nobody was arguing that Curse doesn't have issues |
| 08:36.41 | Wizardling | so please don't try and make out I was anything but absolutely correct |
| 08:36.45 | Shadowed | You weren't |
| 08:36.50 | Shadowed | You were arguing something nobody was |
| 08:36.53 | jnwhiteh | You are correct, Curse.com is terrible. |
| 08:36.53 | Antiarc | Dude, you're being a flaming asshole to people trying to help you |
| 08:36.53 | Wizardling | I have no idea why you'd try to defend curse.com |
| 08:36.55 | Shadowed | You were given multiple alternatives and you ignored them |
| 08:36.57 | jnwhiteh | WE DIDNT |
| 08:37.01 | jnwhiteh | jesus, pay attention |
| 08:37.04 | jnwhiteh | we offered you alternatives |
| 08:37.07 | jnwhiteh | I offered you alternatives |
| 08:37.11 | jnwhiteh | I never argued that Curse was not broken |
| 08:37.14 | jnwhiteh | read the fucking conversation |
| 08:37.24 | jnwhiteh | I said multiple times that curse is MORE broken for me as a dev |
| 08:37.26 | jnwhiteh | and it is. |
| 08:37.34 | jnwhiteh | Want to deal with spam comments on your addon that could be detected by a FUCKING MONKEY? |
| 08:37.36 | Wizardling | now it's great there's another site that hopefully has a page for every addon on curse.com so I can bypass that crap site. |
| 08:37.36 | jnwhiteh | I haev to |
| 08:37.44 | jnwhiteh | Oh, and when I go to my addon page to try and respond to your suopport requests |
| 08:37.49 | jnwhiteh | I can't because I can't be logged in. |
| 08:38.06 | jnwhiteh | But stop pretending like you fucking ignored the constructive help I was trying to give |
| 08:38.08 | Shadowed | Don't forget that keeping track of comments on the curse.com page is a pain in the ass too |
| 08:38.12 | jnwhiteh | and guess what _I_ was right on both accounts. |
| 08:38.17 | jnwhiteh | but that doesn't matter |
| 08:38.24 | Arrowmaster | <Wizardling> So, curse.com needs to be deleted and it's devs fired. |
| 08:38.26 | jnwhiteh | Curse does suck, and you don't ever have to visit it. |
| 08:38.26 | Arrowmaster | they were fired |
| 08:38.28 | jnwhiteh | problem solved. |
| 08:38.29 | Arrowmaster | years ago |
| 08:38.33 | Wizardling | so thank you. But boy are you going to great lengths trying to make me look like the one in the wrong |
| 08:38.38 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 08:38.43 | Shefki | Shadowed: Yeah I'm getting really tempted to turn off comments on curse.com and push everyone to wowace. |
| 08:38.48 | jnwhiteh | I never once said you were wrong about curse.com |
| 08:38.51 | Torhal | ... |
| 08:38.52 | Shadowed | I did that like 8 months ago :> |
| 08:38.56 | jnwhiteh | so why are you continually asserting and defending that position |
| 08:39.01 | jnwhiteh | no one here will defend curse.com |
| 08:39.02 | Torhal | I so wish someone active had ops about now. |
| 08:39.03 | Shadowed | It's way too much of a hassle to keep track of Curse comments, especially with all the spam |
| 08:39.07 | Shefki | The only problem is that I do ocassionally get useful comments on curse and I'm sure some of those people won't realize they can post on wowace. |
| 08:39.08 | Shadowed | there are |
| 08:39.09 | Shadowed | two of them |
| 08:39.13 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: i disabled comments on curse and wowace and disable tickets on cartographer a while ago |
| 08:39.20 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: I only get comments on curse =/ |
| 08:39.26 | Shadowed | I haven't seen people with issues |
| 08:39.28 | jnwhiteh | well on wowinterface as well |
| 08:39.32 | Shadowed | but I also put a bolded thing saying POST HERE |
| 08:39.36 | jnwhiteh | and I get plenty of questions that I feel compelled to answer |
| 08:39.37 | Shefki | Shadowed: I solved the problem with spam, I got mod rights so I can just delete it. |
| 08:39.44 | jnwhiteh | yeah me too |
| 08:39.45 | Shadowed | doesn't stop the email alerts |
| 08:39.48 | jnwhiteh | but its fucking ridiculous that I need to |
| 08:39.50 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: if only you could ban the users too |
| 08:39.55 | jnwhiteh | stop any comment that ends with 'Very simple' |
| 08:39.56 | Shefki | Shadowed: I don't have email alerts on for curse.com. :) |
| 08:39.58 | Shadowed | Which is what annoys me mostly |
| 08:39.59 | jnwhiteh | or such. |
| 08:40.01 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I wish. |
| 08:40.01 | Shadowed | yea |
| 08:40.09 | Shadowed | I can't really track comments on Curse without email alerts thought |
| 08:40.12 | jnwhiteh | its boilerplate spam, so sad. |
| 08:40.13 | Shefki | No idea why I can't, but it doesn't work for me. |
| 08:40.14 | Shadowed | due to threads and peoples delay on responding sometimes |
| 08:40.19 | Wizardling | The trouble is if people _can_ post, they will. And most will ignore any warning saying post elsewhere. And then they'll expect an answer anyway. |
| 08:40.24 | Shadowed | hush Wizardling |
| 08:40.27 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: It'd be so easy to block. *sigh* |
| 08:40.29 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: hence I answer them. |
| 08:40.45 | Arrowmaster | like i said, all the curse.com developers were fired years ago |
| 08:40.47 | jnwhiteh | I find a automatic mining addon,with 3.3.3 patch www.aionktzbot.org I appreciate all the hard work you've put into it.Very simple. |
| 08:40.48 | jnwhiteh | I find a automatic mining addon,with 3.3.3 patch www.aionktzbot.org I appreciate all the hard work you've put into it.Very simple. |
| 08:40.50 | *** join/#wowace Brybry (~DT@ip174-69-128-10.br.br.cox.net) |
| 08:40.54 | jnwhiteh | *FUCKING FACESTAB* |
| 08:40.56 | Shadowed | Well, they do actually change it a little each time jnwhiteh |
| 08:40.59 | Wizardling | The only answer IMO is to entirely avoid posting one's addon to places you do not wish to visit yourself. |
| 08:41.03 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: but the formula is the same. |
| 08:41.04 | Shadowed | but whatever loophole that lets them post should have been closed |
| 08:41.18 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Feel free to poke me if you see it on pages you can't delete it on, I'll be happy to delete it. |
| 08:41.19 | krka | stop spamming please jnwhiteh :/ |
| 08:41.22 | jnwhiteh | Wizardling: shockingly, I do that as well. Good advice |
| 08:41.33 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: I can do it on all of my addons, but thank you muchly! |
| 08:41.48 | Wizardling | well you've good sense then. Any chance you can be cloned? |
| 08:42.06 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure my fiancé would like that. |
| 08:42.09 | Shefki | I try to post to WoWI and Curse, that's it. |
| 08:42.18 | Shadowed | Hrm you have to be registered for Curse comments don't you |
| 08:42.21 | Shefki | But I don't post to PB4 to WoWI. |
| 08:42.33 | Shefki | Shadowed: Yes and if you're registered on curse you're registered on wowwace. |
| 08:42.46 | Shadowed | I guess the bots are using something to get past recaptcha |
| 08:42.47 | Shadowed | amusing |
| 08:42.59 | Shefki | Shadowed: They manually make accounts. |
| 08:43.06 | Shefki | It takes mods hours to get around to noticing them. |
| 08:43.10 | Shadowed | I wonder if it's actually worth it for them to do that |
| 08:43.12 | Shefki | And some of us can't ban users. |
| 08:43.18 | Shadowed | that's true |
| 08:43.26 | Shefki | I can delete the comments. |
| 08:43.32 | jnwhiteh | They need the Wowi feature |
| 08:43.33 | Shefki | Plus the mod interface BLOWS. |
| 08:43.36 | jnwhiteh | where users can report something as spam |
| 08:43.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah the same exact account was spaming for over 4 months before |
| 08:43.43 | jnwhiteh | but then again, they need to fix lots of other things first. |
| 08:43.44 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: We have that. |
| 08:43.46 | Shadowed | oh really? |
| 08:43.51 | Shadowed | I never payed attention to the usernames |
| 08:43.59 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: And the reports go into a private forum on mods can see. |
| 08:44.04 | Shefki | Which nobody reads. |
| 08:44.08 | jnwhiteh | Oh yeah it is there |
| 08:44.10 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 08:44.12 | jnwhiteh | awesome =) |
| 08:44.15 | Shefki | I did for a while, but it's overwhelming. |
| 08:44.17 | jnwhiteh | we fight for them on wowi |
| 08:44.22 | jnwhiteh | to see who can get to them first =) |
| 08:44.23 | Shefki | And I can't really do anything about it. |
| 08:44.32 | Shadowed | I gave up on them |
| 08:44.37 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: If I could actually ban them. I would be more willing to fight it. |
| 08:44.41 | Shadowed | unless you see it within few minutes someone else beat me :< |
| 08:44.48 | jnwhiteh | Yeah we ban and remove all posts from the user |
| 08:44.54 | Shadowed | can't someone promote you to an admin or whatnot |
| 08:44.56 | Shadowed | or supermod |
| 08:44.56 | jnwhiteh | takes a few clicks and works quite well |
| 08:45.11 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: There's the ability to do that but for whatever reason I only got permission to delete posts, not ban users. |
| 08:45.19 | jnwhiteh | blegh |
| 08:45.34 | Shefki | Whenever I ask about it, they say I should have it. |
| 08:45.42 | jnwhiteh | I've only gotten like 10 spam posts on http://wowprogramming.com in its entire lifetime |
| 08:45.51 | jnwhiteh | but we have honeypots and lots of other nastiness that helps to prevent it |
| 08:45.52 | Shefki | TL;DR curse.com isn't maintained, nobody gives a shit about it and so spammers just have fun. |
| 08:46.00 | jnwhiteh | so it all has to be done manually |
| 08:46.02 | Shadowed | and curseforge and wowace :p |
| 08:46.37 | Shadowed | I wonder why wowace doesn't have spam yet |
| 08:46.51 | Shefki | Shadowed: Good moderators. |
| 08:46.58 | Torhal | We nuke that shit. |
| 08:47.02 | Shefki | We actually have the ability to do what we want there. |
| 08:47.05 | Shadowed | I don't think I've ever seen spam on wowace |
| 08:47.06 | Shefki | And the system doesn't suck. |
| 08:47.11 | Shadowed | at least on my addons |
| 08:47.18 | Shadowed | via email alerts |
| 08:47.20 | Shefki | It's also a lot lower traffic. |
| 08:47.25 | Wizardling | If you ask me there's an opportunity here. Almost all WoW addon sites suck. Even the half decent ones are nothing to write home about. |
| 08:47.33 | Torhal | ...? |
| 08:47.36 | Shadowed | hahaha |
| 08:47.38 | Shadowed | oh |
| 08:47.41 | Shadowed | to be so ignorant |
| 08:47.51 | Shefki | Wizardling: If you had any idea how difficult it is to run an addon site... |
| 08:48.04 | Wizardling | I hardly think it easy |
| 08:48.05 | Torhal | "Those who can not, complain." |
| 08:48.12 | wink | too bad geocities is down |
| 08:48.28 | Shadowed | Is angelfire still up |
| 08:48.29 | Wizardling | but I've seen better web design in high school HTML classes |
| 08:48.32 | Shadowed | I will start a new addon site on angelfire |
| 08:48.42 | Antiarc | I think you vastly underestimate the resources it takes to run an addon site :P |
| 08:48.46 | Wizardling | Yeah, you do that |
| 08:48.47 | wink | Wizardling: well, go ahed and make one |
| 08:48.50 | Shefki | vranx's site is useful for what it is. |
| 08:48.57 | wink | which one was that again? |
| 08:48.59 | Shefki | But it's hardly a replacement for WoWI or curse. |
| 08:49.01 | Shadowed | vranx's isn't a resource site |
| 08:49.02 | wink | the one with the nice screenies? |
| 08:49.09 | Shadowed | it's the directory type of site |
| 08:49.17 | Shefki | http://www.vranx.com/ |
| 08:49.24 | Shefki | Shadowed: Right. |
| 08:49.25 | wink | ah yeah. ty |
| 08:49.39 | Wizardling | I don't have a large team of devs and support people as well as, oh... several hundred thousand minimum to get a working prototype up. |
| 08:49.46 | Shefki | Ohh thank god, aguf is gone from his site. |
| 08:49.47 | Wizardling | shame really |
| 08:49.49 | Shadowed | oh what |
| 08:49.50 | jnwhiteh | !addon clique |
| 08:49.51 | Shadowed | He removed it? |
| 08:49.52 | lua_bot | Clique (v. r143) last updated Mon May 3 10:37 (http://is.gd/cYQXO) |
| 08:49.52 | Shadowed | And hahah |
| 08:49.59 | Shefki | Now I don't have to write a paragraph explain what not to use on that page. |
| 08:50.02 | Shadowed | I like how you think it takes several hundred thousand minimum to get a site working |
| 08:50.02 | jnwhiteh | I wish Fin's site was up-to-date more |
| 08:50.06 | jnwhiteh | its still pretty accurate |
| 08:50.24 | Shadowed | Cairenn you won the lottery and then invested that $200,000 to build WoWI right! |
| 08:50.26 | Wizardling | But really - do you think any addon site around today is so great? |
| 08:50.39 | jnwhiteh | yes, I'm very happy with Wowinterface |
| 08:50.40 | wink | well, a torrentbased addon tool with signatures would be nice |
| 08:50.42 | Shadowed | what jnwhiteh said |
| 08:50.51 | jnwhiteh | I'd like to implement git repositories, and .pkgmeta support, but I'm happy with it. |
| 08:50.51 | Cairenn | Shadowed: heh, I wish |
| 08:50.52 | Shefki | Wizardling: They all have certain qualities. |
| 08:50.54 | Antiarc | torrents suck for small files |
| 08:50.59 | Shefki | I don't really like curse but I do like wowace. |
| 08:51.01 | Antiarc | Which is why Kaelten never adopted it for wowace. |
| 08:51.06 | Shadowed | The advantage to torrents would be you don't get murdered on bandwidth mostly |
| 08:51.07 | Shefki | Though I'm annoyed that I can't get them to fix bugs. |
| 08:51.20 | Cairenn | jnwhiteh: you know dolby is working on trying to get git support added :) |
| 08:51.23 | Shadowed | wowace suffers more from Curse not putting developers on the site |
| 08:51.24 | wink | Antiarc: zips of addons aren#t that small |
| 08:51.29 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: yep, and it'll be nice =) |
| 08:51.34 | Antiarc | They're quite small in torrent terms. |
| 08:51.41 | Shadowed | WoWI has some small issues, but it's hardly a major "oh god I hate the site" |
| 08:51.41 | Shefki | Shadowed: How so? |
| 08:51.42 | wink | still not "bad" |
| 08:51.46 | Wizardling | wowinterface is... ok. And that's the best I can say about it. It doesn't suck. However neither does it have any really great design or features. |
| 08:51.48 | Shadowed | Shefki: what do you mean? |
| 08:51.51 | wink | you don't need MB/s downstream |
| 08:51.59 | Torhal | @project Clique |
| 08:52.00 | jnwhiteh | But we'll need to implement some of .pkgmeta as well probably =/ |
| 08:52.02 | Repo | Torhal: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clique/. Clique. Game: WoW. Cladhaire (Manager/Author). Updated: 49 days ago |
| 08:52.05 | Shadowed | Kaelten knows more, but I believe he said wowace was pushing uh |
| 08:52.06 | Shefki | Ohh nm, you mean curse developers working on the site not addon developers. |
| 08:52.10 | Shadowed | TBs of data in a day? |
| 08:52.13 | Shadowed | yea Shefki |
| 08:52.20 | Shefki | I was thinking you were saying that splitting addon devs off into cf/wowace was a negative. |
| 08:52.28 | Shadowed | Well that is kind of a negative |
| 08:52.36 | Shadowed | and a stop hack, but I can see why it was done |
| 08:52.41 | Cairenn | Wizardling: We are always interested in hearing constructive suggestions: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18 |
| 08:52.43 | Shadowed | a/stop/bit of/ |
| 08:52.56 | Shadowed | s/a/stop/bit of/s/stop/bit of// |
| 08:53.01 | Shefki | Cairenn: So hey what are we doing at Blizzcon this year? |
| 08:53.01 | Shadowed | blast |
| 08:53.09 | Shadowed | Getting ckk drunk again |
| 08:53.16 | Shefki | That's easy. |
| 08:53.18 | Shadowed | then dump him in mexico |
| 08:53.20 | Cairenn | Shefki: drinking and partying again, afik ;) |
| 08:53.28 | Cairenn | afaik* |
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| 08:54.05 | Wizardling | Cairenn - damning praise maybe, but when I say your site doesn't suck that's lightyears ahead of most others. Thanks for the link. I'll have a think and maybe post my ideas. |
| 08:54.29 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 08:54.30 | Fisker | msnkitty |
| 08:55.03 | Wizardling | wonders if Blizzcon is worth attending this year |
| 08:55.23 | Shefki | Why wouldn't it be? |
| 08:55.32 | Shadowed | Nobody goes to blizzcon for blizzcon anyway |
| 08:55.37 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 08:56.13 | wink | not? |
| 08:56.13 | Wizardling | Unless they announce their secret second MMO... well, it's going to be a bit light on news, don't you think? |
| 08:56.13 | Shefki | You go to Blizzcon to see people. |
| 08:56.13 | wink | but..but.. playable betas |
| 08:56.13 | wink | I hate people |
| 08:56.13 | Shadowed | The only beta will be diablo3 |
| 08:56.18 | wink | I wouldn't ever go to Blizzcon |
| 08:56.19 | Shefki | Shadowed: THey'll have something from Cata to show. |
| 08:56.22 | Kalroth | People go to Blizzcon to spoon with Shadowed |
| 08:56.26 | Shefki | Hell I was shocked last year with the starting zones. |
| 08:56.27 | Shadowed | Cata should be out by then |
| 08:56.31 | wink | unless someone payed my flight to Canada and smuggling into the US |
| 08:56.33 | Shadowed | or at least, out soon enough to not matter |
| 08:56.34 | Shefki | By October? |
| 08:56.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * v1.1.0-beta2-68-gcefbdba / (2 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 08:56.39 | Wizardling | *yawn* Maybe another D3 character. It's not much. |
| 08:56.41 | Repo | cefbdba: Renamed expansions in the SavedVariables to match what is now in the revamped GUI code. |
| 08:56.42 | Repo | e0d9abf: Category tabs will now remember the state of their contents when switching between them or changing the sort method - currently non-functional for sub-header entries. |
| 08:56.43 | Repo | e6b7f6e: Standardized arguments to all calls of ListFrame:Update(). |
| 08:56.43 | wink | *paid derp |
| 08:56.44 | Repo | 1f34a72: Moved the OnShow handler for MainPanel into MainPanel:Display() for better initial tab handling. |
| 08:57.26 | Cairenn | wanders back off to her own channel again |
| 08:57.29 | Shefki | *shrug* I'm not anticipating cata to be ready by October, they might want it to be but I think they'll be slow like usual. |
| 08:57.38 | Torhal | Elkano: As requested, sorting no longer affects what's expanded/collapsed in the list. |
| 08:57.55 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 08:58.06 | Torhal | Neither does tab switching, for that matter. |
| 08:58.10 | Shefki | December, I can see that happening though. |
| 08:58.20 | Elkano | now make it keep scroll position if you learn something new ;) |
| 08:58.31 | Shefki | But at this point we're just throwing darts at a dart board while blind. |
| 08:58.31 | Torhal | Bah! |
| 08:58.42 | Shefki | Torhal: And rename it. |
| 08:58.48 | Shefki | The addon formerly known as arl. |
| 08:59.10 | Shefki | Give it a symbol that's a combination of an a and a t for name. |
| 08:59.44 | Shefki | Then change it back 6 months later when nobody can figure out how to search for it. |
| 08:59.45 | Wizardling | Question: what's the best TitanPanel replacement going that doesn't use menus to configure plugins? I ask because the bug in WoW that greys out the lower half on menu contents is getting too annoying to ignore. |
| 08:59.47 | Elkano | btw, you know what sucks? farmin a recipe, having it drop, being happy, linking it to guild and noticing 5min later you forgot to pick it up :/ |
| 09:00.01 | Wizardling | LOL |
| 09:00.04 | Wizardling | oh that sucks |
| 09:00.21 | jnwhiteh | I dont' use titan or fubar, just straight ldb displays, and I use my own, NinjaPanel. |
| 09:00.26 | jnwhiteh | !addon Ninjapanel |
| 09:00.27 | lua_bot | NinjaPanel (v. r35) last updated Mon Jan 11 07:43 (http://is.gd/cYRCT) |
| 09:00.35 | Torhal | Elkano: Icky |
| 09:00.54 | SunTsu | Elkano: autoloot ftw? ;) |
| 09:01.10 | Wizardling | Still, not as bad as seeing a rare pet, jumping off a cliff to reach it, hitting slow fall, and... slow fall doesn't work. Cause you're a moron and still had an NPC targetted. |
| 09:01.15 | jnwhiteh | but if you need more than it provides, you'll be waiting a while for feature requests =) |
| 09:01.36 | Wizardling | naturally the pet was gone by the time I resed. |
| 09:02.05 | Torhal | Wizardling: What WoW bug are you talking about? I've never seen any such thing. |
| 09:02.20 | Wizardling | I really wanted that kill |
| 09:02.32 | Wizardling | I think some alliance hunter tamed it |
| 09:02.38 | Wizardling | (is Horde) |
| 09:03.20 | Wizardling | it's a bug affecting several addons that use menus with lots of items. Past a certain point lower entries are greyed out. |
| 09:03.55 | Torhal | You mean, specifically, dropdown menus? Saying "menus" causes confusion. |
| 09:04.04 | Torhal | @project bazooka |
| 09:04.04 | Wizardling | sorry, yes I do |
| 09:04.05 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka/. Bazooka. Game: WoW. mitch0 (Manager/Author). Updated: 36 days ago. Tickets: 1/13 |
| 09:04.08 | Torhal | Get that. |
| 09:04.21 | Shefki | Yeah I was goign to mention Bazooka but was spacing the name. |
| 09:04.26 | Wizardling | Ninjapanel looks decent. |
| 09:04.35 | Shefki | Wizardling: BTW I found the fix to that bug. |
| 09:04.44 | Wizardling | ... HOW??? :-) |
| 09:04.58 | Wizardling | It's been driving me nuts for months |
| 09:04.58 | SunTsu | I use DockingStation, which is similar |
| 09:05.57 | Torhal | I dropped DockingStation because it had overly-aggressive tooltip handling. The author told me last June he was going to fix it. It was fixed (unverified, since I now use Bazooka) in February I believe. |
| 09:06.30 | Shefki | Wizardling: http://paste.wowace.com/2119/ |
| 09:07.47 | Shefki | I tracked the problem down, made an extensive post on the official forums about it which appears to have been deleted now. |
| 09:08.21 | Wizardling | I wish the Titan Panel team had seen it. |
| 09:08.28 | Wizardling | thanks |
| 09:09.34 | Wizardling | Oh, I best get my priest somewhere safe before server shutdown. |
| 09:17.02 | Megalon | http://www.theonion.com/articles/south-african-vuvuzela-philharmonic-angered-by-soc,17625/ |
| 09:22.44 | krka | haha |
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| 09:41.03 | Elkano | ok, this time I remembered to pick it up ^^ |
| 09:45.43 | Torhal | Elkano: Woo! |
| 09:46.00 | Elkano | I think the problem was it being BoP ^^ |
| 09:46.24 | Elkano | so i clicked it and ignored the popup |
| 09:47.22 | Torhal | D'oh |
| 09:48.05 | Torhal | With all of the re-writing and such that I've done with ARL, I'm debating on sticking with 1.1 or eleasing as 2.0 |
| 09:49.17 | asmodai | Torhal: 2.0 is fine by me, it's radically different |
| 09:49.29 | Torhal | That was my thinking. |
| 09:49.54 | asmodai | I approve :) |
| 09:50.58 | Torhal | :D |
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| 10:01.57 | Torhal | Damn Blizzard |
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| 10:02.33 | asmodai | mmm? |
| 10:02.49 | Torhal | When the OnUpdate was broken, the client had a very useful bug - when they shut down for server maintenance, the client didn't recognize that I'd been disconnected...I could /reloadui for hours to test stuff. |
| 10:08.15 | asmodai | hahha, cool |
| 10:08.20 | asmodai | and they now fixed it? :) |
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| 10:13.10 | Torhal | Yah, a patch or two ago |
| 10:13.38 | Torhal | I got a lot of work done on patch day when that was "broken" |
| 10:13.45 | Torhal | Err, maintenance day |
| 10:15.26 | asmodai | :( |
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| 10:21.20 | asmodai | Torhal: so now you're shit out of luck? |
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| 10:25.19 | Torhal | asmodai: Pretty much, save for drycode...which I try not to commit :) |
| 10:27.26 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gridstatustth/. GridStatusTTH. slaren (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 10:27.32 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/easy-button/. Easy Button. ulic (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 10:27.52 | Repo | 10statussubscribe (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r23 / (5 files in 2 directories): Drycoded modules for Onyxia and Ahune. |
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| 10:30.07 | Torhal | Meh. Sleep. |
| 10:37.42 | asmodai | Torhal: night night |
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| 12:09.44 | asmodai | lol, someone asking for 'tankers'... |
| 12:09.49 | asmodai | really, a BP joke awaits.. |
| 12:22.04 | kagaro | patch day always fun |
| 12:24.16 | robokitty | how long before you get the first "LFG Ruby Sanctum" going? :p |
| 12:24.39 | asmodai | about a week or so |
| 12:24.43 | robokitty | meh |
| 12:25.14 | robokitty | I'd love to see a 25man pug form, just to see them arrive at the portal and go "wtf why can't I enter????" |
| 12:25.20 | Elkano | asmodai, I doubt it... too many ppl that don't read patch notes but heared rumors that it's coming |
| 12:25.48 | asmodai | lol |
| 12:25.49 | kagaro | Antiarc you got Chatter patches ready I hope |
| 12:25.54 | asmodai | Elkano: that would suck :D |
| 12:26.10 | Elkano | serves them right though |
| 12:27.14 | dieck | I'd think the first LFG Ruby Sanctum will be seen some seconds after server restart :) |
| 12:28.04 | Stanzilla | kagaro: don't think he has apart from the 3.5 branch :p |
| 12:28.24 | dieck | could be fun getting down there and watch them banging their heads against the portal |
| 12:29.42 | dieck | let's see if fraps still works :) |
| 12:29.57 | kagaro | Stanzilla I know he fixed it in a branch, i have it checked out ont he PTR |
| 12:35.06 | Repo | 10gridstatustth (experimental): 03slaren * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Initial commit |
| 12:36.52 | jnwhiteh | How do you subscribe to comments on curse.com |
| 12:37.01 | jnwhiteh | I can never find the damn option, not that the emails really work =/ |
| 12:37.42 | jnwhiteh | ah nvm, its a user setting, not a project setting |
| 12:38.01 | kagaro | anyone know what language is spoken in taiwan? |
| 12:39.00 | asmodai | Anyone else get perverse pleasure in smashing your shield in someone's face when they try to cast something? XD |
| 12:39.17 | SunTsu | Elkano: actually, I read "lfg ruby sanctum" last week - and I'm not kidding |
| 12:41.19 | asmodai | SunTsu: lol |
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| 12:43.17 | SunTsu | it really made me unsure and I looked up if the patch was out without me noticing... |
| 12:45.41 | asmodai | ahaha |
| 12:45.44 | asmodai | as if you'd miss ;) |
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| 12:48.22 | SunTsu | I play only from time to time, so it _could_ happen - I still felt silly afterwards ;) |
| 12:53.36 | asmodai | heh |
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| 13:29.44 | asmodai | hahaha, I must say, a warrior past level 20 is fun. Charge, shouts, thunderclap, kill one off, victory rush, victory rush, victory rush, group dead. |
| 13:36.14 | Wobin | agrees |
| 13:36.19 | Wobin | Victory rush is the best thing ever |
| 13:36.29 | jnwhiteh | I'm prot, and I really dislike that Warbringer is so far down the talent tree =/ |
| 13:36.34 | Wobin | even in dungeons, you can spam it to finish off groups of mobs |
| 13:36.39 | jnwhiteh | tanking at 30 is a pain in the ass without it. |
| 13:36.45 | Wobin | yeah, body pulling =( |
| 13:37.08 | Wobin | however, cleave/thunderclap/cleave/cleave/thunderclap is awesome for aoe tanking |
| 13:37.36 | Wobin | I've only just got the sunder replacement |
| 13:37.40 | Wobin | Warbringer, next |
| 13:38.21 | Wobin | warbringer will be nice for the initial rage shot |
| 13:38.37 | Wobin | rather than hoping the dps give a few hits leeway before unloading |
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| 13:39.35 | asmodai | I must say I like playing a warrior so far |
| 13:40.45 | Wobin | I've stopped dpsing in instances now, and purely tank |
| 13:40.52 | Wobin | because rage starvation is a terrible way to go |
| 13:41.21 | Wobin | it's the major drawback I've found for warrior dps |
| 13:41.25 | steev | Wobin: dps will never give a few hits leeway |
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| 13:41.32 | Wobin | steev, unfortunately yeah |
| 13:41.43 | Wobin | you can tell them to wait for the thunderclap if they're not too bright though |
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| 13:43.33 | asmodai | defense is also nice, revenge, revenge, revenge |
| 13:43.38 | asmodai | mob 4 levels higher dead |
| 13:44.13 | Wobin | as a draenei, I was killing multiple +level elites |
| 13:44.22 | Wobin | thankfully with Gift =P |
| 13:46.19 | asmodai | Ahh yea |
| 13:46.28 | asmodai | shit, should've made my warrior a draenei instead of human :P |
| 13:46.45 | quiescens | reroll |
| 13:46.49 | asmodai | NO WAI |
| 13:47.00 | Wobin | eh Diplomacy is pretty awesome |
| 13:47.05 | asmodai | it helps a lot |
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| 14:23.20 | asmodai | Always when your bags are full you get the more interesting drops |
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| 14:26.51 | asmodai | Also funny how, as a warrior, you move across a map from mob to mob with charge and victory rush XS |
| 14:26.55 | asmodai | XD |
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| 14:42.47 | Wobin | asmodai, I love how charge negates the requirement to find a way up hills and around objects =P |
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| 14:48.34 | kagaro | got a git question |
| 14:48.55 | kagaro | i have pulled a branch of chatter and have fixes to publish, should i git push or git commit? |
| 14:50.10 | krka | a push is meaningless without a commit |
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| 14:54.23 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 073.3.5 * v1.1.2-3-g9c6a412 Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed edit box delays, and profile switch errors |
| 14:54.51 | asmodai | Wobin: hahaha, yeah, it rocks |
| 14:55.03 | kagaro | there ya go stan |
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| 15:00.19 | Antiarc | kagaro: There was a 3.3.5 branch already, is that the one you merged? |
| 15:00.29 | kagaro | yes |
| 15:00.34 | Antiarc | kk |
| 15:00.43 | kagaro | trying to fix up the edit box delays |
| 15:00.49 | Antiarc | delays? |
| 15:01.01 | Antiarc | Something change since the PTR? |
| 15:01.03 | kagaro | when you set them to Hide, its causes a big lookup loop in blizz code delayings the box by 4-10s |
| 15:01.05 | Antiarc | Or well, the PTR a while ago |
| 15:01.08 | Antiarc | Ugh, that's bad. |
| 15:01.20 | kagaro | so i set them to Alpha(0) |
| 15:01.33 | Antiarc | That makes them clickable still |
| 15:01.38 | Antiarc | Which will irritate some folks |
| 15:01.40 | kagaro | yeah i know |
| 15:01.51 | kagaro | maybe remove the click handlers |
| 15:02.03 | kagaro | the delay was unusbale |
| 15:02.04 | Stanzilla | or shrink it to 1px? |
| 15:02.32 | kagaro | the issue is stan, every time you select a chatbox, depending on the chat style it recycles them |
| 15:02.51 | kagaro | thats where the delay was, it was looping trying to find an edit box |
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| 15:03.22 | kagaro | also Antiarc i had to add a check int he ChannelNames, when you switch profiles, the upvalue got nuked by something |
| 15:03.34 | kagaro | causing nil errors |
| 15:03.39 | kagaro | so i added a few checks for it |
| 15:03.53 | Antiarc | Alrighty. |
| 15:04.00 | Antiarc | I haven't checked it since right after the PTR opened |
| 15:04.03 | Antiarc | So maybe they changed things |
| 15:04.07 | kagaro | there were a few patches |
| 15:04.19 | kagaro | i noticed when i logged in this morning i got i think 3 updates |
| 15:13.28 | kagaro | btw 3.3.5 is live today on us |
| 15:14.57 | pompy | yep |
| 15:16.09 | kagaro | great i logged out of ptr now i cant get back on, server busy |
| 15:17.43 | kagaro | you gona push your branch to head Antiarc? |
| 15:18.18 | pompy | anyomne know what the 2010 arena pass pet is? |
| 15:19.15 | Antiarc | Yeah, will do, kagaro |
| 15:19.21 | Antiarc | Thanks for the contributions :) |
| 15:19.35 | kagaro | was just wondering, otherwise was jsut gona use the branch till you did |
| 15:20.13 | kagaro | Stanzilla: your getting double timestamps, cause blizz is pushign them over as part of the text in the message |
| 15:20.24 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 15:20.53 | Antiarc | wtf. I don't have a 3.3.5 branch after doing a pull? |
| 15:21.24 | kagaro | my last push |
| 15:21.25 | kagaro | To git@git.wowace.com:wow/chatter/mainline.git |
| 15:21.25 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.37 | kagaro | that is the right branch isnt it |
| 15:21.51 | Antiarc | yeah, I pulled and it noted that it was pulling changes to 3.3.5, but "git branch" just shows master. |
| 15:22.02 | kagaro | weird |
| 15:22.22 | koaschten | Bafana Bafana ! |
| 15:23.26 | kagaro | well maybe we can figure out a better fix for ChatEdit_SetLastActiveWindow |
| 15:23.47 | kagaro | thats the hook that causes the delay |
| 15:24.38 | Repo | 10chatter: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2 / (10 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 15:24.38 | kagaro | ohh wait stan i think i got it |
| 15:24.40 | Repo | 04ac035: renamed a var |
| 15:24.45 | Repo | 9c6a412: Fixed edit box delays, and profile switch errors |
| 15:24.47 | Repo | bb9fa37: More compat fixes. Should be generally usable now. |
| 15:24.48 | Repo | c4e41ee: Initial compat changes. Edit box needs a full rewrite. :( |
| 15:24.55 | Repo | 10chatter: 03Antiarc 04v1.2 * 04070d0 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2 |
| 15:27.38 | kagaro | on Bottom anchor setting alpha to 0 is not a big deal, its only when top anchored |
| 15:29.38 | kagaro | ok got a better fix |
| 15:30.06 | kagaro | after SetAlpha(0), EnableMouse(false), then in OnDisable re-enable the mouse |
| 15:31.43 | Kaelten | Antiarc: why I what? |
| 15:31.48 | kagaro | Antiarc where do you want any more fixes? in master or 1.2 branch? |
| 15:32.06 | Kaelten | Shadowed: ? |
| 15:32.47 | Antiarc | Master's dandy |
| 15:32.52 | Antiarc | Kaelten: ? |
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| 15:33.17 | Kaelten | looks like around 8:51 you and shadoweded where talking about something I never did, and I'm curious |
| 15:33.17 | Kaelten | :D |
| 15:33.35 | Antiarc | Oh, it was something having to do with Wowace but I forget what it was |
| 15:33.44 | Antiarc | Some guy was in here nerdraging about Curse |
| 15:33.50 | Kaelten | I just did do something though |
| 15:33.51 | jnwhiteh | it was awesome |
| 15:33.51 | Antiarc | I forget the rest |
| 15:33.54 | jnwhiteh | you should go back and read it =) |
| 15:34.07 | asmodai | was that the guy who needed a 100k to start a site? |
| 15:34.20 | steev | 100k dolla? |
| 15:34.21 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 15:34.38 | asmodai | ah right |
| 15:35.09 | Kaelten | https://www.wowace.com/home/reward-points/ |
| 15:35.38 | kagaro | Stan did you add those other changes? |
| 15:35.39 | jnwhiteh | bah |
| 15:35.43 | jnwhiteh | SSL certificate is sad again. |
| 15:36.06 | jnwhiteh | Chrome yells at me. |
| 15:36.08 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh: ? |
| 15:36.17 | Kaelten | I just updated it a few days ago |
| 15:36.23 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: in chrome, the site's SSL cert is crossed out and has skull and crossbones =) |
| 15:36.44 | Kaelten | ah, ya, because apparently there's a mixed resource somewhere in there |
| 15:36.53 | Kaelten | not sure exactly where, haven't had a chance to look into it yet |
| 15:36.59 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f480434e15944924398480813ec7056f.png |
| 15:37.01 | jnwhiteh | Ah k k |
| 15:37.01 | jnwhiteh | =-) |
| 15:37.04 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 15:37.09 | jnwhiteh | STOP MAKING CURSE SO TERRIBEL |
| 15:37.13 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:37.26 | jnwhiteh | The nerdrage was awesome |
| 15:37.39 | Kaelten | I'll have to brave linkinus's horrible logging framework and look |
| 15:38.02 | jnwhiteh | I like the new details being off on another screen |
| 15:38.04 | jnwhiteh | much nicer this way |
| 15:38.29 | Kaelten | ya makes it much easier to track your points overtime |
| 15:38.36 | Kaelten | glad you like it :) |
| 15:38.45 | Kaelten | getting ready to kick off the new point generation code too |
| 15:38.53 | jnwhiteh | cool! |
| 15:38.58 | Kaelten | it's going to be a lot more fluid than it has been |
| 15:39.10 | Kaelten | and we won't have any more dry spells where it just doesn't generate for that first week in the month |
| 15:39.33 | jnwhiteh | Now if you could get paypal purchases to happen more often, *wink* |
| 15:39.38 | jnwhiteh | but its not quite an issue |
| 15:39.40 | Antiarc | Heheh, indeed. |
| 15:39.41 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 15:39.52 | kagaro | ohh heh found another bug |
| 15:39.58 | Kaelten | ya, they fill paypal requests once a month, and nothing I can do about that |
| 15:40.08 | Kaelten | I did make it so gift cards auto fulfill |
| 15:40.12 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 15:40.24 | Kaelten | no more waiting on me to check it, or pinging me |
| 15:41.00 | pompy | oh it was Wizardling bitching? he comes in here every now and then bitching about the same shit lol. |
| 15:41.21 | Antiarc | Why yes, yes it was. |
| 15:41.23 | jnwhiteh | He picked the wrong guy to bitch to. |
| 15:41.36 | jnwhiteh | I started off by saying 'You can't complain about curse to me, I have more reason to complain than you ever will' |
| 15:41.41 | jnwhiteh | and it went downhill from there |
| 15:41.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:41.44 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 15:41.46 | jnwhiteh | I said curse.com |
| 15:41.54 | jnwhiteh | that's my single issue =) |
| 15:41.55 | Repo | 10easy-button (experimental): 03ulic * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
| 15:42.16 | Kaelten | well, curse.com is on schedule to get some love, but not sure exactly when we'll get that far, so I can't promise |
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| 15:42.55 | jnwhiteh | I won't hold my breath =) |
| 15:43.29 | Kaelten | fair enough ;) |
| 15:46.54 | Kaelten | now to get the new point stuff running |
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| 15:52.27 | Kaelten | *crosses his fingers* |
| 15:53.54 | koaschten | adieu le bleu |
| 15:56.45 | Kaelten | bah |
| 15:56.55 | kadrahil | Fisker where's my beta key |
| 15:57.13 | kadrahil | ACTUALLY WHERE'S MY ALPHA |
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| 16:10.31 | kagaro | Antiarc only thing i cant seem to fix is chat frame position when the side buttons are disable, its like it forces the scren clamp |
| 16:11.06 | Antiarc | Is that the clamp rect insets thing? I had a fix for that, dunno if they fixed it |
| 16:11.16 | kagaro | yeah the clamp rect |
| 16:13.04 | kagaro | looks like the floating frame onload resets the clamp everytime |
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| 16:18.01 | kagaro | maybe hook the FCF_SavePositionAndDimensions and onload reset to that post after changing the clamp |
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| 16:23.54 | kagaro | ya ok that did it |
| 16:24.23 | asmodai | *insert daily obligatory whine about classic's aggro ranges* |
| 16:31.53 | asmodai | ok, warlocks with bloody imps, not fun -- guess that's a weakness at low levels for warriors? o_O |
| 16:32.20 | quiescens | i'm not sure that made sense |
| 16:32.42 | durcyn | it didn't. |
| 16:33.03 | quiescens | okay then, was worried it was just me |
| 16:33.42 | asmodai | well, they tossing fireballs at me from range while trying to beat down another mob (or 2) |
| 16:33.54 | quiescens | oneshot the imp |
| 16:33.56 | asmodai | Being a warrior your health goes down fast |
| 16:34.01 | Repo | 10chatter: 03kagaro 07master * v1.2-1-g51559cc Modules (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Better fix for editbox hiding. Fixed screen clamp, Dont enable timestamp module, if they are using blizzard timestamps, since it injects it directly into the body of the message" |
| 16:34.33 | kagaro | Antiarc ok i fixed the clamping, better checks on the edit box mouse interaction and disable timestamp if they are using blizz timestamps |
| 16:34.53 | ulic | I admit I haven't even tried, is chatter working with the new changes in 3.3.5? |
| 16:34.59 | kagaro | it is now |
| 16:35.21 | ulic | nice |
| 16:35.51 | kagaro | crap Antiarc did i just push that to the wrong branch? |
| 16:36.08 | durcyn | doesn't matter, it's live everywhere today, no? |
| 16:36.15 | Stanzilla | no! |
| 16:36.21 | durcyn | oh well, balls to euros. |
| 16:36.44 | Antiarc | v1.2 is a tag, not a branch |
| 16:36.59 | kagaro | i thought i did a git checkout master to switch to master branch |
| 16:37.11 | Antiarc | That looks like the right commit |
| 16:37.24 | kagaro | just noticed it made an alpha zip is all |
| 16:38.01 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's normal |
| 16:39.43 | pompy | lol http://io9.com/5558603/ |
| 16:41.21 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 16:41.25 | Fisker | i has bad sectors |
| 16:41.28 | Fisker | nexus swap go? |
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| 16:42.41 | pompy | gg.. "This week's maintenance has been extended and is expected to conclude at approximately 1:00 PM PDT." |
| 16:42.44 | kagaro | login servers are sooo dead right now |
| 16:48.45 | kagaro | ohh they fixed the realID emai stuff? i.e. you can add a friend with just his character name? |
| 16:48.57 | kagaro | so you dont haveto give out email address |
| 16:49.15 | kagaro | nvm misread the box |
| 16:49.26 | asmodai | durcyn / quiescens: Was just that these were mobs of same level/one level higher and the 'locks with imps just whittled me down before even coming close :S |
| 16:50.08 | asmodai | missed making it a coherent story :S |
| 16:57.23 | Ackis | some new code was pushed live today, changing the way you can view reward points if you're interested |
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| 17:00.01 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:00.07 | Kaelten | well first point batch wtih new code is ran |
| 17:00.22 | sbu | mhh, so? :p |
| 17:00.24 | asmodai | And you all have less |
| 17:00.24 | Kaelten | and I waited just long enough to run it so that we caught up with where the point generation is spost to be |
| 17:02.38 | asmodai | And after this Kaelthas, I mean, Kaelten will conquer the world. |
| 17:02.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:03.03 | asmodai | And he's prepared. |
| 17:03.03 | Ackis | he has already conquered Fisker's heart |
| 17:03.15 | asmodai | Jealous now Ackis? ;) |
| 17:03.24 | Ackis | nah |
| 17:03.55 | Ackis | it's not fun anymore now that my fiancée makes gay jokes about Kaelten and I :( |
| 17:05.00 | asmodai | seriously? |
| 17:05.01 | asmodai | hahahaha |
| 17:05.33 | Ackis | yeah she tosses jokes around now |
| 17:07.26 | kagaro | time go get some lunch |
| 17:08.11 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/statussubscribe/. StatusSubscribe. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 17:08.16 | asmodai | chuckles |
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| 17:18.26 | ramoz | raage - chatter is broken |
| 17:18.42 | pentium166 | surprise |
| 17:20.46 | pompy | ramoz: scroll up? |
| 17:21.21 | ramoz | i tried, and got critted by wall of text |
| 17:22.06 | Kaelten | Ackis: I blame you |
| 17:22.38 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:23.03 | ramoz | *reverts* |
| 17:32.53 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: <3 per-day log entrys |
| 17:35.38 | nevcairiel | also, whats up with the weird point generation this month? |
| 17:36.07 | Ackis | there were extra generations earlier in the month |
| 17:36.26 | Ackis | it was put on hold to allow for dev time and to make up for those extras |
| 17:36.57 | nevcairiel | but why extras? :D |
| 17:37.13 | Ackis | that I don't know about |
| 17:38.00 | nevcairiel | i counted the entries for this month, and it comes out to 22, so i figured it was partly a correction thing |
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| 17:45.55 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: it was due to a bug earlier this month |
| 17:47.16 | Kaelten | but ya the fact that I just happen to run the points today and that left it right where it was spost to be was kinda a coincidence |
| 17:48.53 | lozon | Is prat broken as well? |
| 17:49.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | no |
| 17:49.11 | lozon | w00t |
| 17:49.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | not last i checked |
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| 18:01.03 | Stanzilla | and chatter is not broken :P |
| 18:04.11 | asmodai | It had new "features"? :) |
| 18:04.15 | asmodai | s/had/has/ |
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| 18:05.02 | Stanzilla | no you just fail when update today and are from eu :p |
| 18:05.32 | sbu | you also fail when you accept new battle.net AGB today |
| 18:05.35 | sbu | from EU |
| 18:05.58 | asmodai | AGB? |
| 18:06.10 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 18:06.58 | sbu | errr |
| 18:07.29 | sbu | terms and conditions :p |
| 18:07.32 | sbu | sorry ;) |
| 18:08.18 | sbu | Stanzilla: no login possible (they fixed it ~20 minutes ago) |
| 18:09.31 | Stanzilla | k |
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| 18:19.32 | asmodai | watches mmoc die again |
| 18:19.39 | asmodai | oh wait, there it comes |
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| 18:33.25 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDLzWmHMMfY&fmt=18 <-- wth |
| 18:34.09 | Fisker | slaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:34.18 | Cyprias | RIP king koopa. |
| 18:34.22 | Fisker | you have been stopped asmodai |
| 18:54.40 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/updated-point-generation-is-back-with-new-features/ |
| 18:55.07 | Shadowed | whoo |
| 18:55.10 | Shadowed | I love you Kaelten |
| 18:56.19 | Kaelten | Shadowed: *snifs* I love you too man |
| 18:56.54 | Ackis | queue Can You Feel the Love Tonight |
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| 18:57.44 | kagaro | Kaelten: i notice a few gaps, but no biggie |
| 18:58.00 | Shadowed | Kaelten: Random small bug, if you redeem an item from the store it says "None" in related but it's still blue and looks like a link |
| 18:58.36 | Kaelten | kagaro: please report em |
| 18:58.38 | Kaelten | Shadowed: damn |
| 18:58.40 | Kaelten | :/ |
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| 18:59.07 | Shadowed | Ah hm |
| 18:59.19 | Shadowed | IT looks like there is a gap of 3 days too |
| 18:59.22 | Shadowed | well 2 |
| 18:59.33 | kagaro | 16th is missing, but last 3 days on mine |
| 18:59.39 | Shadowed | I've got 2 hours, 4 days, 5 days, 6 days |
| 19:00.39 | Kaelten | ya, but there are 22 batches this month |
| 19:00.52 | Kaelten | I could write a script that'd redate them if it'd make people feel better |
| 19:01.10 | kagaro | lol like 5 marks for the 8th |
| 19:03.49 | nevcairiel | so no week break on month changes anymore eh? |
| 19:03.52 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 19:04.48 | Kaelten | yup |
| 19:05.43 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 19:06.03 | Xinhuan | so, what's new apart from the condensed point report and the no week break on months? |
| 19:06.23 | Xinhuan | from a user's perspective i mean |
| 19:06.30 | Xinhuan | backend there's probably some algo changes and stuff |
| 19:08.15 | Ackis | nevcairiel: it was closer to a 2 week break *whistles* |
| 19:08.30 | nevcairiel | depends when the month changed |
| 19:08.44 | Ackis | orders auto fill now I believe (for gift certs) |
| 19:08.56 | nevcairiel | too bad i dont order those |
| 19:09.18 | Kaelten | oh, and we use nev's income to fund the program now |
| 19:09.21 | Kaelten | thanks for the contribution |
| 19:09.27 | asmodai | lol |
| 19:09.27 | nevcairiel | not funny! |
| 19:09.37 | nevcairiel | I planned the money away to buy furniture! |
| 19:09.38 | asmodai | actually, very |
| 19:09.41 | Kaelten | :D |
| 19:09.44 | ulic | so the till is empty already then? |
| 19:09.56 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:10.41 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 19:10.42 | Kaelten | let's see, the generation is now spent-budget aware, it also has some updated logic for popularity score that'll fade in over time |
| 19:11.00 | Xinhuan | what does that mean |
| 19:11.41 | Kaelten | well, if you've noticed point generation has gotten very static lately |
| 19:11.47 | Kaelten | only shift is the monthly budgets |
| 19:12.06 | Kaelten | fixed the issue that cause dthat |
| 19:12.09 | Kaelten | caused* |
| 19:12.10 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 19:12.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:12.20 | Xinhuan | what about the popularity fading in part lol |
| 19:12.29 | Kaelten | that's what I'm talking about |
| 19:12.39 | Shadowed | I think he means, how is it going to fade in over time |
| 19:12.44 | Shadowed | since don't you already have popularity numbers? |
| 19:12.47 | Kaelten | to avoid a sudden jump the new logic is going to fade in |
| 19:13.08 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 19:13.09 | Xinhuan | does this mean authors expect to see points go up, or down? |
| 19:13.11 | nevcairiel | i should work on stuff again and make it more popular |
| 19:13.21 | Shadowed | If I pay monkeys to download addons |
| 19:13.23 | Shadowed | will I get more points |
| 19:13.25 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: that completely depends ;) |
| 19:13.25 | Ackis | Xinhuan: depends on what you have for projects |
| 19:13.52 | Xinhuan | that's about as vague as no answer |
| 19:14.23 | pompy | i guess points I get for ARL will just pluummett |
| 19:14.24 | pompy | jk |
| 19:14.54 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 19:15.03 | Ackis | Xinhuan: some projects will get more, some will get less, some will stay the same |
| 19:15.20 | asmodai | Took PR lessons at BP Ackis? :P |
| 19:15.26 | Ackis | ARL will stay the same since it's popularity is the same before as after (ie: around 40th overall) |
| 19:15.29 | Kaelten | Ackis: you spelt some coffee |
| 19:15.30 | kagaro | rofl |
| 19:15.38 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:16.25 | asmodai | omg, France didn't win a single match :| |
| 19:16.34 | Xinhuan | france is crap |
| 19:16.39 | Xinhuan | this year at least |
| 19:16.42 | asmodai | yea |
| 19:16.53 | asmodai | go South Korea! |
| 19:16.54 | nevcairiel | france started to destroy their team the last days anyway |
| 19:17.08 | kagaro | Italy is making me cry |
| 19:17.19 | nevcairiel | italy is always like that |
| 19:17.31 | nevcairiel | in their 3rd game they win due to some lucky coincedence |
| 19:17.38 | nevcairiel | and then they become world champion |
| 19:18.30 | asmodai | if it continues as it is only Ghana will continue of all African nations |
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| 19:18.53 | asmodai | nevcairiel: lol |
| 19:19.37 | asmodai | don't pay attention to my toon near a mailbox for a minute, I now have 6+ buffs from random strangers, hah |
| 19:20.55 | asmodai | ~wowalert |
| 19:20.56 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:21.09 | nevcairiel | all empty :d |
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| 19:32.28 | Torhal | pompy | i guess points I get for ARL will just pluummett <-- You're right. I just set your share to 0% |
| 19:32.34 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 19:32.55 | asmodai | hahahaha |
| 19:33.08 | asmodai | nevcairiel: so no maintenance @ EU tomorrow \o/ |
| 19:33.18 | nevcairiel | patch is next week |
| 19:33.24 | nevcairiel | not that i care, havent played for a month or so |
| 19:33.30 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Well, every week sees regular maintenance, no? |
| 19:33.31 | Xinhuan | does the real ID implementation in wow support facebook integration? |
| 19:33.47 | durcyn | Xinhuan: apparently yes |
| 19:33.48 | nevcairiel | asmodai: nah, they do rolling restarts often enough |
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| 19:34.08 | Xinhuan | i hope i don't see facebook popups to post to wall on some achievement lol |
| 19:34.24 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you will |
| 19:34.27 | nevcairiel | facebook is the devil |
| 19:34.41 | durcyn | pretty sure you'd have to link the account first |
| 19:35.10 | durcyn | and if you already have done, then you're already into "kill yourself" territory anyway |
| 19:35.28 | nevcairiel | if you signed up with facebook, you are there by my counts |
| 19:36.07 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i have an account, but i only use it to remove myself from pictures people tag me in |
| 19:36.21 | arkanes_ | if you didn't have an account, they couldn't tag you |
| 19:36.23 | nevcairiel | excuses |
| 19:36.53 | nevcairiel | from what i hear about facebook every day, they can basically build a profile for you, and once you sign up, you already have a full tree of connections |
| 19:36.59 | Xinhuan | i don't particularly care what facebook does with my data and pictures lol |
| 19:37.21 | durcyn | Xinhuan: i had more respect for you when you didn't end sentences in acronyms |
| 19:37.49 | Xinhuan | "lol" has reached the point it isn't treated as an acronym anymore |
| 19:38.05 | Xinhuan | people actually pronounce it now! |
| 19:38.10 | durcyn | okay, then, "internet retard textspeak" |
| 19:38.13 | nevcairiel | i hate those people |
| 19:38.22 | durcyn | i was being polite. |
| 19:38.37 | durcyn | well, relatively so |
| 19:38.38 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 19:38.41 | nevcairiel | laugh already, dont say "lol" |
| 19:38.42 | asmodai | Mikk: Cute little addon that freerefills. |
| 19:39.00 | asmodai | The fun part is |
| 19:39.01 | nevcairiel | well i guess its better then saying el-oh-el |
| 19:39.13 | Xinhuan | i think i've used lol 3 times tonight |
| 19:39.14 | asmodai | lol in my language exists as a word for "having fun". |
| 19:39.39 | nevcairiel | ~x nl en lol |
| 19:39.42 | Xinhuan | make that 4! |
| 19:39.53 | nevcairiel | hah |
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| 19:39.58 | asmodai | ^^ |
| 19:40.22 | nevcairiel | so thats where its coming from, and they just made up the acronym afterwards |
| 19:40.42 | asmodai | could be :) |
| 19:40.57 | durcyn | as with so many other things, i am satisfied to blame the dutch |
| 19:40.57 | Ac-town | usually I use lol when its kinda funny |
| 19:41.24 | Xinhuan | anyway durcyn, that's a pretty strange thing to point out |
| 19:42.09 | durcyn | i'm entitled to an outburst about the devolution of language once a year, it's in my contract |
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| 19:47.17 | Xinhuan | ok so blue posters are now posting Curse Client is notorious for spreading key loggers |
| 19:47.32 | Ac-town | i could see that |
| 19:47.38 | Ac-town | cause there are ads in the program |
| 19:47.44 | Ac-town | link btw? |
| 19:49.33 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=302776&postcount=1580 |
| 19:49.35 | Xinhuan | 4 links |
| 19:50.22 | Xinhuan | pokes Kaelten in the ribs |
| 19:50.27 | Xinhuan | you might want to look into that |
| 19:50.46 | Torhal | He's making a generalization |
| 19:50.51 | Torhal | So lame |
| 19:51.00 | Torhal | (for example, Curse Client) |
| 19:51.03 | Aens|Superiority | being the only named offender can |
| 19:51.07 | Aens|Superiority | can't possibly look good |
| 19:51.11 | Torhal | I know |
| 19:51.16 | Torhal | I'm saying the GM is a fucking jerk |
| 19:51.18 | Torhal | :D |
| 19:51.21 | pompy | his generalization should have been wowmatrix |
| 19:51.31 | Torhal | pompy: Aye |
| 19:51.57 | Kaelten | indeed |
| 19:52.14 | Kaelten | a lot of work has been done to make sure the client doesn't do just that |
| 19:52.28 | Gnarfoz | do what, "spread keyloggers"? |
| 19:52.42 | Xinhuan | well the blue didn't exactly make an accusation, but listing it there creates a loose link of sorts |
| 19:52.43 | Aens|Superiority | if blizz is gonna be like this, they really should just pony up and make their own addon repository |
| 19:53.19 | Gnarfoz | can it display Flash ads? if so, all is lost! :D |
| 19:53.30 | durcyn | they should've set up an app-store style distribution point years ago. |
| 19:53.37 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Looks like a desk-jockey who was fielding "I ARE HAXED!" reports on 06/22 from 8:50am until 9:26am |
| 19:53.53 | Torhal | All four reports look like one session, and he boilerplate-responded |
| 19:54.31 | Aens|Superiority | ugh, another 2 hours on us maintenance |
| 19:54.40 | Xinhuan | should nap |
| 19:54.41 | Kaelten | durcyn: they won't because that creates liability |
| 19:55.01 | Aens|Superiority | should finally go get and play the mass effect 2 dlc from two weeks ago |
| 19:56.00 | durcyn | Kaelten: liability for what? it's not like you can accomplish anything malicious in their sandbox |
| 19:56.04 | pompy | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert i like the html tags in there |
| 19:56.15 | durcyn | Kaelten: if anything they're creating more work for themselves by encouraging the existence of shady third parties like wowmatrix |
| 19:56.15 | nevcairiel | i got me2 when it was on sale last weekend, should play it too at some point |
| 19:56.16 | Kaelten | they're very hands off addons on purpose |
| 19:58.02 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: great game |
| 19:58.07 | Kaelten | more of an fps than the first one was though |
| 19:58.45 | nevcairiel | i wish i had more time |
| 19:59.04 | nevcairiel | although the apartment hunting is gone from my schedule now, so that frees some hours up |
| 19:59.22 | Kaelten | ya I just moved into my new house end of last month |
| 19:59.27 | Kaelten | still pretty busy with it though |
| 19:59.54 | nevcairiel | I'm getting the new place first of september, so until then pretty relaxed. . short of the long way to work ,) |
| 20:00.29 | Repo | 10gridstatustth (experimental): 03slaren * r3 GridStatusTTH.lua: - Do not show times < 0 |
| 20:00.32 | Repo | - Saner defaults |
| 20:00.32 | Repo | - Reordered options |
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| 20:04.39 | Xinhuan | i didn't buy me2 |
| 20:04.44 | Xinhuan | i bought da:o instead |
| 20:05.00 | Niv | so is chatter going to assplode when I log in tongiht? |
| 20:05.01 | asmodai | GAH |
| 20:05.04 | Niv | tonight* |
| 20:05.06 | pompy | did u buyy dead space, Xinhuan |
| 20:05.12 | Antiarc | It's fixed, Niv |
| 20:05.13 | asmodai | why are people so unimaginative with regard to guild names? |
| 20:05.17 | Niv | Antiarc: awesome |
| 20:05.17 | Xinhuan | nope, when my raid ended, the offer expired |
| 20:05.20 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 20:05.25 | pompy | oh yeah |
| 20:05.28 | asmodai | [noun] of [noun] recruiting ... |
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| 20:08.54 | Ackis | Xinhuan: you should buy STO, I can refer you if you want :D |
| 20:09.03 | Xinhuan | STO? |
| 20:09.12 | Ackis | star trek online |
| 20:09.21 | Kalroth | Oh dear |
| 20:09.26 | Xinhuan | no, not that |
| 20:09.27 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 20:09.51 | durcyn | i want a refund for my STO lifetime sub |
| 20:09.53 | Xinhuan | and ackis, with 219 games on your steam profile, i'll say you border on... excessiveness? |
| 20:10.03 | Xinhuan | wait fisker has 313 games |
| 20:10.13 | Kalroth | durcyn: I'm glad I "only" bought the normal game :) |
| 20:10.15 | Xinhuan | 363* |
| 20:10.33 | Ackis | Xinhuan: I have a lot more that aren't on steam :P but yeah I bought a few packs, haven't bought much lately, been saving money for the wedding |
| 20:10.35 | Kalroth | Damn, I need to beat Fisker |
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| 20:10.51 | Kalroth | only 190 games :( |
| 20:11.07 | Xinhuan | if each game is $20, that's $6k! |
| 20:11.16 | durcyn | steamcalculator.com Xinhuan |
| 20:11.21 | Kalroth | Steam calc says around 2900 for me |
| 20:11.29 | durcyn | my 237 titles are apparently worth $4100 |
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| 20:11.41 | durcyn | too bad i bought most on sale? |
| 20:11.51 | Kalroth | Same :) |
| 20:11.52 | Kalroth | http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/kalroth/us |
| 20:11.53 | Xinhuan | thing is, go look back on the "hours played on record" |
| 20:11.59 | Xinhuan | i'll bet 90% of the games have less than 1 hour |
| 20:12.06 | Kalroth | more than 90 % :p |
| 20:13.23 | Xinhuan | wtb portal 2 |
| 20:13.41 | pentium166 | steam calculator has some messed up values |
| 20:13.48 | pentium166 | $100 for HL2 lost coast? |
| 20:13.50 | Ackis | hmmm something is wrong with my steam account |
| 20:14.03 | durcyn | it is you. you are what's wrong. |
| 20:14.49 | asmodai | schweet |
| 20:14.50 | Kalroth | I got 29 out of 190 games (29 games with 1+ hour played) |
| 20:14.54 | Ackis | $2643.20 USD |
| 20:15.01 | asmodai | 1507,15⬠for mine XD |
| 20:15.11 | Kalroth | so 15%, Xinhuan! |
| 20:15.25 | Ackis | how do you see your games played w/ time? |
| 20:15.26 | Xinhuan | hmm what's mine |
| 20:15.35 | Kalroth | I manually counted them :) |
| 20:15.35 | Xinhuan | $320.88 USD |
| 20:15.38 | asmodai | Ackis: within steam's library |
| 20:15.43 | asmodai | or |
| 20:15.49 | Xinhuan | but of that 320, i think i paid less than $100 |
| 20:15.56 | Xinhuan | since many were on offer |
| 20:16.24 | Kalroth | Yeah, I don't buy games for full price on Steam unless I REALLY want it :) |
| 20:16.25 | asmodai | piracy run rampant eh |
| 20:16.30 | asmodai | s/run/runs/ |
| 20:16.36 | Xinhuan | for example, orange box is $29.99, but counted separately, the 5 games are like $120 |
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| 20:17.18 | Kalroth | Steam is still too expensive on some games, so I skip or wait |
| 20:17.39 | Ackis | you have steam, impulse, GFWL, etc to choose from now, usually one has a sale on |
| 20:17.57 | Kalroth | I don't buy elsewhere, Steam or retail |
| 20:18.06 | Kalroth | fuck having multi downloaders installed |
| 20:18.16 | Kalroth | and fuck GFWL, so fucking intrusive and buggy |
| 20:18.29 | Ackis | I've bought from the EA store, GFWL, Steam, Impulse and Direct2Drive |
| 20:19.06 | Kalroth | I buy from Steam, Amazon or some random local sho |
| 20:19.07 | Kalroth | p |
| 20:19.08 | Xinhuan | sometimes, i just want the damn box |
| 20:19.14 | Xinhuan | screw online distribution! |
| 20:19.26 | Ackis | Xinhuan: that's why I buy the xbox copy then ;) |
| 20:19.29 | pentium166 | Having to use GFWL for Fallout DLC was annoying |
| 20:19.31 | pentium166 | was/is |
| 20:19.48 | Kalroth | Well sometimes I can order a game from Amazon + overseas shipping and still be 50% cheaper than Steam |
| 20:19.50 | pentium166 | If you bought it over steam, does it use steam for DLC or do you still need to use GFWL? |
| 20:19.55 | Kalroth | I like downloads, but thats just silly |
| 20:20.28 | Kalroth | http://www.steamprices.com/ got some good examples |
| 20:20.43 | Kalroth | Quantum of Solace at 50 euro, but only 20 dollars (??) |
| 20:21.25 | Xinhuan | i saved $15 dollars on DA:O yesterday |
| 20:21.36 | Xinhuan | by getting the UK store |
| 20:21.38 | Xinhuan | instead of US |
| 20:22.37 | asmodai | jeez, Goldshire is a graveyard of bones |
| 20:23.31 | Niv | lol |
| 20:23.38 | Niv | flagging is bad? |
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| 20:37.12 | Kaelten | just a heads up guys I'm regenerating the point logs |
| 20:37.18 | Kaelten | to fix both issues |
| 20:37.38 | asmodai | (And siphoning from nevcairiel in order to fund the rest of the maintenance...) |
| 20:37.53 | nevcairiel | i hate you |
| 20:38.40 | Kaelten | asmodai: sorry, yes, all 3 issues |
| 20:39.03 | nevcairiel | in about 700 points i'll just spend it all! |
| 20:39.18 | Kaelten | anywho, links to orders and other users will show up right in the log now |
| 20:39.22 | kagaro|napping | im waiting for 3k more myself nev |
| 20:39.36 | Kaelten | and I redated the batches for this month |
| 20:39.38 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_RrNCqCIPE <-- wth does this even look entertaining? |
| 20:39.47 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: all my gains are gone in the log |
| 20:39.56 | nevcairiel | well, generated gains |
| 20:39.56 | Kaelten | ya |
| 20:39.59 | Kaelten | they're coming back |
| 20:40.04 | Kaelten | it's regenerating them all |
| 20:40.04 | nevcairiel | ah, its not done, ok |
| 20:40.26 | Kaelten | ya, it's almost 300k objects |
| 20:40.27 | Xinhuan | he's eating your backlog points too nevcairiel |
| 20:40.33 | asmodai | That looks actually pretty awesome. |
| 20:40.41 | nevcairiel | i spend those, what do i care! |
| 20:40.48 | Xinhuan | go into negative |
| 20:41.03 | nevcairiel | creates new account and transfers addons over |
| 20:41.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:41.31 | Kaelten | poor nev, we're stealing his furniture |
| 20:41.38 | nevcairiel | seriously |
| 20:41.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:41.55 | Xinhuan | you can buy furniture on amazon now? |
| 20:42.01 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 20:42.03 | nevcairiel | but i take the paypal |
| 20:42.09 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 20:42.20 | nevcairiel | but you can seriously buy anything from amazon |
| 20:42.38 | Xinhuan | except i doubt shipping furniture will be free |
| 20:42.41 | arkanes_ | even uranium |
| 20:42.50 | nevcairiel | lets see |
| 20:42.51 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 20:42.59 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: probably depends on who's selling it |
| 20:43.13 | arkanes_ | http://www.amazon.com/Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1277239373&sr=8-2 |
| 20:43.28 | kagaro | except an ipad which they wont sell |
| 20:43.55 | arkanes_ | the "also viewed" listings for the uranium ore are both hilarious and disturbing |
| 20:44.21 | Kaelten | kagaro: :( |
| 20:44.32 | arkanes_ | gallon of whole milk, 32oz of wolf urine, The 2009-2014 Outlook for Wood Toilet Seats in Greater China |
| 20:44.44 | Kaelten | "Flushing session with 278248 generation log entries" |
| 20:45.00 | Kaelten | I wonder if there's some sort of performance issue with putting that many objects in one db session |
| 20:45.04 | Kaelten | er transaction |
| 20:45.18 | Kaelten | s/objects/rows/ |
| 20:45.29 | arkanes_ | sure |
| 20:46.02 | arkanes_ | depends on what database you're using, but you need to have sufficient space for redo logs for the entire transaction |
| 20:46.12 | Kaelten | it's postgresql |
| 20:46.27 | arkanes_ | it's common to be unable to run DELETE on large tables in oracle because yuo don't have enogh redo space, for example |
| 20:48.49 | Kaelten | could see that |
| 20:49.16 | Kaelten | probably should have chunked this so it'd be faster |
| 20:49.20 | Kaelten | but c'est la vie |
| 20:49.26 | Kaelten | it's a run once and forget script |
| 20:49.49 | Torhal | Kinda like the "Operation nevcairiel" script? |
| 20:50.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:50.48 | Ackis | http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/06/21/postcards_from_hell?page=full |
| 20:50.50 | Ackis | =/ |
| 20:51.13 | Kaelten | because of this script nev is going to have to keep his spool-turn-coffee-table and side-of-the-road-couch |
| 20:52.00 | nevcairiel | hey, my couch isnt that bad |
| 20:52.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:52.14 | Repo | 10statussubscribe: 03stolenlegacy * r24 / (2 files in 2 directories): Bug fixes |
| 20:52.14 | Gnarfoz | does it support couch surfing |
| 20:52.15 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:52.27 | nevcairiel | i barely use it right now, i store stuff on it :( |
| 20:52.28 | Kaelten | or at least transactional storage? |
| 20:52.34 | nevcairiel | my room is totally overloaded with shit |
| 20:52.38 | Repo | 10statussubscribe: 03stolenlegacy 04beta-3a * r25 : tagging |
| 20:53.03 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: Adys is your man, he's expertly dealing with shit *right now* |
| 20:53.16 | Adys | I love dealing with shit |
| 20:53.40 | Gnarfoz | <3 cross-network highlights |
| 20:53.47 | Kaelten | Adys: great! my cat is having some sort of infection and we're tired of cleaning it up |
| 20:53.56 | nevcairiel | i should probably already get some cardboard boxes and pack some stuff that i wont be needing anyway |
| 20:53.57 | Adys | Have you tried toilet paper? |
| 20:54.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: moving again? |
| 20:54.11 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:54.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: or rather, 'found a place'? |
| 20:54.22 | Adys | nevcairiel: what did you need? |
| 20:54.24 | nevcairiel | again? |
| 20:54.45 | nevcairiel | i didnt need anything, Gnarfoz was just trying to be funny =p |
| 20:54.53 | asmodai | He found some newer cardboard boxes. |
| 20:55.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hey, if you piece together #mmo-champion on quakenet and this channel around that timestamp, it'll all make sense! |
| 20:56.05 | nevcairiel | i dont idle in that quakenet channel, probably too many idiots |
| 20:56.10 | nevcairiel | its quakenet, afterall |
| 20:56.23 | Gnarfoz | that's a tautology, if I've ever seen one |
| 20:56.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 20:57.21 | Kaelten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-z4Dv55qDw |
| 20:57.26 | nevcairiel | seriously, who do you stand all that trolls and whatnot there? :D |
| 20:57.52 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS MODES + some generous hostmasks |
| 20:58.40 | asmodai | What a weird kind of lag, everything reacts pretty decent, but visually I keep walking in place :S |
| 20:58.49 | EXPERIEN | has cataclysm been released yet? |
| 20:58.52 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: jump |
| 20:59.17 | Gnarfoz | and well, switching to other channels before switching away from my IRC client helps, too, so I don't see that channel in the background or when I tab back to the IRC client. ;-) |
| 20:59.19 | asmodai | And then it was gone. |
| 20:59.39 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: Yeah, it does reset it, but walking again brings it back. Or simply rotating. Odd |
| 20:59.51 | Gnarfoz | model animation bug, around for 5 years or so? :| |
| 21:00.13 | Shadowed | Kaelten I think you broke the points log even more :P |
| 21:00.26 | Ackis | Shadowed: did you expect another outcome? |
| 21:00.30 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:00.37 | Shadowed | Now it just shows the points I spent in store and received from another user |
| 21:00.43 | Gnarfoz | haven't experienced it coming back quite so quickly, but well, forcing another animation that is incapable of "mixing" with other animations resets it |
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| 21:00.51 | Shadowed | errr now it works fine |
| 21:00.59 | Shadowed | ok... |
| 21:01.44 | Ackis | ahh id 10 t error :P |
| 21:01.56 | Kaelten | Shadowed: :P |
| 21:01.59 | Kaelten | it was regenerating them all |
| 21:02.01 | Kaelten | just finished |
| 21:02.02 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 21:02.05 | Shadowed | I am awesome at timing |
| 21:02.22 | Kaelten | I redated the point batches from this month so people see there's been one per day |
| 21:03.55 | Kaelten | also needed to fix the non generation log entries a lot of them were showing a related link of None |
| 21:03.57 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: your definition of the word "awesome" is disturbing |
| 21:05.12 | Ackis | Kaelten: can you put the date of the data you're looking at on the User Award Details page? |
| 21:05.30 | Kaelten | probably not |
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| 21:42.42 | Adirelle | Kaelten, IMO you could throw the CCv3 server, it seems the package data aren't updated since a week (or so) ago |
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| 21:42.55 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 21:42.58 | Kaelten | possible |
| 21:43.03 | Adirelle | quite sure :p |
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| 21:49.51 | Mikk | Ladies and gentlemen. WoW will die. Lego UNIVERSE is coming! |
| 21:51.05 | Mikk | I shouldn't even try to say things like that in channels used to Fisker- should I. |
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| 21:51.45 | durcyn | we are inured. |
| 21:52.32 | asmodai | Mikk: :) |
| 21:53.06 | Mikk | (Having said that, I'm bloody getting Lego Universe. I suspect it'll be money out the window but I'm getting it! So hah! :P) |
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| 21:53.59 | asmodai | Mikk: I only saw a trailer once which was interesting |
| 21:54.05 | asmodai | Mikk: any gameplay footage yet? |
| 21:54.33 | Mikk | http://www.legouni.com/topic/206-lego-universe-building/ |
| 21:54.39 | Mikk | click through to the youtube |
| 21:54.41 | Mikk | check related |
| 22:00.05 | asmodai | Mikk: looking |
| 22:02.26 | asmodai | Mikk: interesting fighting |
| 22:02.29 | pompy | We are continuing to work to resolve issues with the application of the new content patch and will provide an additional update by 4:00PM PDT. |
| 22:05.06 | asmodai | Mikk: battle seems simple though XD |
| 22:08.45 | Mikk | betcha the white dude is a healer :P |
| 22:09.16 | Ackis | is in the closed beta for Lego Uni |
| 22:11.32 | asmodai | Ackis: and how is it? |
| 22:11.45 | Ackis | it just has me in pieces |
| 22:11.58 | Ackis | it builds up to some fun scenes |
| 22:12.09 | Ackis | I was just blocked by the limited time windows |
| 22:12.39 | asmodai | mmm? |
| 22:12.42 | Ac-town | nice pun |
| 22:12.52 | Ackis | overall it's a good game, I enjoyed it for what I've played, but last I looked the windows that you can play it on don't work that well for me |
| 22:12.55 | asmodai | Because of their maintenance and so? |
| 22:13.03 | asmodai | ah right |
| 22:13.08 | Ackis | they have limited time to play, like thursday night and weekends |
| 22:13.30 | Ackis | they've done a lot of changes, I haven't logged in since they put them out however |
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| 22:25.40 | Niv | you know it's good when the hour by hour updates start |
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| 22:25.51 | Niv | 10pm Pacific is my current bet! |
| 22:26.19 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 22:26.28 | asmodai | but but but |
| 22:26.31 | asmodai | it has RealID |
| 22:26.43 | Niv | you guys remember the voice chat patch? |
| 22:26.44 | Niv | was it 2.2? |
| 22:26.45 | Niv | hehe |
| 22:26.57 | Niv | man I'd love to see usage stats on wow voice chat |
| 22:29.02 | asmodai | ahaha |
| 22:30.35 | Ac-town | no one used it lol |
| 22:33.45 | asmodai | I wonder if people use it nowadays |
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| 22:34.55 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: then 0, now 0, no surprise there |
| 22:35.10 | Gnarfoz | (I do indeed wonder about actual usage numbers, too, though) |
| 22:36.57 | asmodai | Because it seems like a feature that they could easily rip out :P |
| 22:45.38 | koaschten | i'd like to suggest everyone opens a ticket |
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| 22:45.59 | koaschten | asking where the privacy options for realID are, because "even facebook has privacy options" |
| 22:46.16 | Niv | lol |
| 22:46.19 | Niv | blizzard and privacy |
| 22:46.20 | Niv | lol |
| 22:46.33 | Niv | it would get so much more use if it just displayed an alias |
| 22:46.36 | Torhal | Laughing is against the ToS. |
| 22:47.15 | Niv | if blizzard cared about privacy, you would have been able to mark yourself invisible years ago |
| 22:47.29 | Niv | instead, you can /friend anyone without request, and see their online status |
| 22:51.03 | MysticalOS | blizzard already stated "privacy" for realid is not giving it to someone you don't want to find you whenever wherever |
| 22:51.51 | Niv | was there always an anti-datamining clause in the ToS? |
| 22:53.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:53.47 | Niv | how about this massive tech? |
| 22:53.59 | Niv | in game advertisements? |
| 22:55.16 | pompy | lol idiots http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/25552675172-honest-expectation-for-end-of-maintenence.html |
| 22:55.24 | Niv | Massive. Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. |
| 22:55.32 | Niv | I need to find the ToS, I don't remember this crap |
| 22:57.52 | durcyn | the blizzard-massive deal is months old |
| 22:58.25 | durcyn | hell, almost years. december '08. |
| 22:58.35 | Niv | they just never used it eh? |
| 22:58.52 | durcyn | it's been in use on blizzard websites for quite a while |
| 22:59.12 | Niv | ah, all that is adblocked |
| 22:59.53 | Niv | life would be much easier if people just published a diff of this shit ;) |
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| 23:01.56 | Niv | http://www.wow.com/2010/06/21/the-lawbringer-new-battle-net-tou/ |
| 23:01.58 | Niv | apparently |
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| 23:11.37 | pompy | We are extending our maintenance to apply the latest content patch and will provide an additional update by 5:00PM PDT |
| 23:11.57 | pompy | at 5pm pdt itll say 6pm pdt :) |
| 23:12.39 | Slayman | at least it stays integer ? :D |
| 23:13.58 | vhaarr | you mean you're glad it doesn't say "5.71PM PDT"? |
| 23:14.11 | Slayman | sort of |
| 23:14.18 | pompy | lol |
| 23:14.48 | Slayman | even though, and I am sry to inform you. I do not care about PDT I'm more of a CEST kind of guys |
| 23:15.05 | Slayman | which means UTC+2 |
| 23:15.14 | vhaarr | no need to be sorry to inform us of that, since we don't care really |
| 23:15.31 | Ac-town | ^ |
| 23:15.57 | Primer | wow, wtf, extended maintenance |
| 23:15.58 | Niv | my bet is still 10pm PDT |
| 23:15.59 | Slayman | u r lacking an eyebrow, shaving accident? |
| 23:16.13 | Primer | is there substantial new content? |
| 23:16.25 | Niv | RealID is the problem I'm sure |
| 23:16.29 | Slayman | fun thing is, after the patch you can't kill halion |
| 23:16.31 | Niv | ruby sanctum is in, but not live yet |
| 23:16.52 | Slayman | yeah what he said |
| 23:16.54 | Ac-town | Niv: right |
| 23:17.05 | Ac-town | at least they get time to be offline |
| 23:17.15 | Ac-town | doing update when things are online is a mess |
| 23:17.28 | Primer | fuck, might as well take a nap then |
| 23:17.49 | Ac-town | just be happy that they give us updates and warning when downtimes are |
| 23:20.35 | Adirelle | Ac-town, like in "you don't have that in some other games" ? :) |
| 23:20.56 | Ac-town | or any other service |
| 23:21.01 | Ac-town | who sucks |
| 23:21.52 | pompy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25559735749&sid=1 that is quite a long list of known issues |
| 23:22.21 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.23 | pompy | that issue again ll |
| 23:23.00 | Niv | haha |
| 23:24.17 | pompy | lol Shefki: "Both airships in the Isle of Conquest do not have icons that appear on the game map. " |
| 23:24.54 | pompy | "Icecrown Citadel - Kinetic Bombs will occasionally spawn outside of the encounter area. " |
| 23:25.00 | pompy | nice |
| 23:26.36 | Slayman | can you guys still raid seriously with cata on the horizon and the LK killed by millions? I can't push myself to that |
| 23:26.47 | MysticalOS | that list they posted aren't new issues, esides the halion stuff, all that stuff has been on konwn issues lists, they just bumped em is all |
| 23:27.05 | Ac-town | Slayman: hard modes are hard |
| 23:27.15 | MysticalOS | tyranus is a fun issue, all you have to do is intercept him |
| 23:27.21 | MysticalOS | to get him to remount |
| 23:27.36 | Cyrez | "Hovering over the Chat Frame and using the mouse wheel will allow players to scroll through chat text." < Just saw that, lol. I hope that doesn't cause problems with Prat and other addons that add the same functionality. |
| 23:27.53 | MysticalOS | prat worked on ptr, wim was royally screwed |
| 23:28.10 | Ac-town | wim could die |
| 23:28.14 | Ac-town | and i could care less |
| 23:28.19 | Ac-town | and im a hardcore wim user |
| 23:28.31 | Ac-town | cause new window tabs and such |
| 23:28.52 | MysticalOS | most features start out as addons then blizz goes "that looks good" heh |
| 23:28.58 | Ac-town | heh lol |
| 23:29.01 | Ac-town | im ok with this |
| 23:29.07 | MysticalOS | i'm curious what raid frames they are gonna copy for 4.0 |
| 23:29.33 | Slayman | Ac-town: I agree that still does not make it any more delectable (for me at least) |
| 23:29.40 | pompy | ha, "Performing the /eat emote while dancing as a male Bloodelf can cause some very unnatural character movement." :O |
| 23:30.15 | Ac-town | Slayman: i still havent played with it |
| 23:30.18 | Ac-town | but im going to see |
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| 23:30.40 | Ac-town | but not loading a addon is less ram usage for me |
| 23:30.50 | Ac-town | and I usually idle at 100mb ram for addons |
| 23:30.55 | Ac-town | with recount clear |
| 23:31.13 | Slayman | yeah me too |
| 23:31.33 | Slayman | and except for the load times, it's not that impacting |
| 23:31.43 | Ac-town | granted gather and auctioneer |
| 23:31.46 | Ac-town | are big ones |
| 23:31.56 | Ac-town | true, but if anything its less stuff |
| 23:32.06 | Slayman | agreed |
| 23:32.25 | Torhal | GatherMate > Gatherer |
| 23:32.32 | Torhal | </opinion> |
| 23:32.57 | Slayman | Torhal: memorywise not really a difference |
| 23:33.03 | Ac-town | i dont use any of the nice features |
| 23:33.07 | Ac-town | just the icons on the minimap |
| 23:33.11 | Ac-town | and thats all i want |
| 23:33.21 | Torhal | Slayman: o.O |
| 23:33.31 | Torhal | gatherMate doesn't store a bunch of unnecessary shit that Gatherer does |
| 23:33.35 | kagaro | Gathermate uses less memory than Gatherer for same sie node database |
| 23:33.46 | Torhal | I don't care who I received a node from or when the last time I visited it was |
| 23:34.04 | Torhal | Or how many times I went there |
| 23:34.06 | Torhal | etc |
| 23:34.07 | Slayman | that is very important information! <_< |
| 23:35.54 | Gnarfoz | it's also not really affecting your run-time performance |
| 23:35.58 | Slayman | haven't used gatherer since like ... well a lot of time. Using gathermate and don't care about anything else that stupid dots on my map, that remark was untrue but since I don't know any better ... it's the internets after all |
| 23:36.07 | Gnarfoz | (unless you're on 1GB ram or something) |
| 23:36.17 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: True, but if you aren't using it why have it? |
| 23:36.40 | Ac-town | Gnarfoz: right, but clean UI, and I have had wow issues with high addon memory usage |
| 23:36.47 | Gnarfoz | such as? |
| 23:36.55 | Ac-town | wow being 32 bit |
| 23:37.16 | Gnarfoz | you mean wow being compiled without /largeaddressaware |
| 23:37.31 | Ac-town | indeed |
| 23:37.44 | Ac-town | It usually crashes when it goes over its address space |
| 23:37.44 | Cyrez | Some games have trouble with that in systems with LOTS of memory. |
| 23:37.59 | Gnarfoz | Cyrez: it's not about how much memory the system has, really |
| 23:38.11 | sylvaan | the new changes i think would make WIM more useful if it was updated |
| 23:38.27 | sylvaan | . |
| 23:38.30 | sylvaan | grr |
| 23:38.31 | Slayman | it depends on how much space the app can address |
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| 23:40.01 | sylvaan | i hope pazza ends up updating wim |
| 23:40.25 | Ac-town | it is handy |
| 23:40.32 | Slayman | hey anyone of you ever experienced you 'puter shutting down instantaneously for no reason? no bluescreen. nothing of sorts? |
| 23:40.48 | Ac-town | Slayman: windows does that |
| 23:40.57 | Ac-town | updates sometimes without me knowing |
| 23:41.05 | Slayman | yeah well it's not a windows problem |
| 23:41.16 | Ac-town | oh |
| 23:41.21 | Ac-town | then maybe your overheating |
| 23:41.35 | Shefki | Ac-town: Addon memory probably isn't causing the memory space crashes. Anytime I've looked at tracebacks of that it's in model loading code. |
| 23:41.53 | Ac-town | Shefki: for me it was memory allocation |
| 23:41.54 | Shefki | Ac-town: And I haven't seen those crashes very much lately, they did have a memory leak a while back that caused it. |
| 23:41.59 | Ac-town | yeah |
| 23:42.05 | Ac-town | It hasn't happened in a long time |
| 23:42.09 | Shefki | Ac-town: Yes memory allocation in the cod ethat loads models. |
| 23:42.33 | Shefki | I believe they had some sort of leak in their model cache system. |
| 23:42.38 | Ac-town | yeah |
| 23:42.41 | Slayman | I'm thinking it may be a power problem |
| 23:43.02 | Shefki | But like everything it's easy to blame addons. |
| 23:43.13 | sylvaan | they are delivering my iphone tomorrow...im so excited |
| 23:43.17 | Ac-town | lol very true |
| 23:43.29 | Shefki | I'm enjoying my EVO. |
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| 23:43.56 | sylvaan | yeah, i wish i could get both and compare - my boss says hes going to get an evo |
| 23:44.12 | Slayman | clobber him, rob him and test then |
| 23:44.17 | durcyn | i had my hands on one last week, wasn't impressed |
| 23:44.19 | Slayman | win-win situation |
| 23:44.30 | Shefki | I think it depends on what you're looking for. |
| 23:44.36 | Shefki | If you |
| 23:44.42 | durcyn | HTC has a habit of doing things half-assedly, as evidenced by the camera you can't actually do anything meaningful with, and that god-awful Sense UI |
| 23:44.46 | Shefki | you're a big google services user, android is probably better. |
| 23:44.55 | Shefki | durcyn: What camera? |
| 23:44.57 | sylvaan | im tempted to sell my iphone tomorrow and buy another one and pocket ~300 |
| 23:44.58 | Slayman | sylvaan: iphone4? |
| 23:45.01 | durcyn | Shefki: the front-facing one on the EVO |
| 23:45.01 | sylvaan | yes |
| 23:45.07 | Slayman | nice |
| 23:45.11 | Shefki | durcyn: You can do meaningful things with it. |
| 23:45.18 | Shefki | The built in software can use it. |
| 23:45.22 | sylvaan | they are coming a day early |
| 23:45.32 | Shefki | Qik can use it. |
| 23:45.36 | sylvaan | some poeple got theirs today |
| 23:45.45 | Shefki | And that other app that I can't think of the name of that lets you use it with Skype. |
| 23:45.49 | Slayman | yeah foxconn ppl stopped suiciding for a week or so |
| 23:45.57 | sylvaan | lol |
| 23:46.00 | durcyn | compare the usability of Qik and and Fring with FaceTime, then tell me the EVO is better. |
| 23:46.11 | durcyn | it's there, but the experience is total gobshite |
| 23:46.25 | Shefki | durcyn: I didn't really buy the phhone for the front camera anyway. |
| 23:46.34 | Shefki | I would have bought it if they didn't put it on at all. |
| 23:46.51 | sylvaan | yeah me too |
| 23:46.59 | sylvaan | i dont have anyone to facetime with |
| 23:47.04 | Shefki | And FaceTime might be better... But seriously it's only going to work with other iPhones. |
| 23:47.16 | Shefki | At least Qik and Fring can work with other things. |
| 23:47.27 | durcyn | the API's open, i'd expect it to be implemented in a fair number of places |
| 23:47.39 | sylvaan | if you can facetime with skype im all in |
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| 23:47.55 | kagaro | ^^ |
| 23:47.57 | durcyn | it's just bidirectional h264 streams, to my understanding |
| 23:47.59 | Shefki | I doubt Apple will do anything outside thier little walled garden. |
| 23:48.00 | Slayman | apple: "there is an app called skype with like millions of users, you know what let's make the same app ourselves!" |
| 23:48.12 | kagaro | skype rocks |
| 23:48.21 | Slayman | sure does |
| 23:48.25 | kagaro | i dont think its ever not running on my machone |
| 23:48.28 | pompy | im waiting on my droid incredible by htc |
| 23:48.30 | sylvaan | apple: "we dont want to wait for skype to support our new camera so we'll write our own app" |
| 23:48.36 | Shefki | But honestly, FFC wise, the apps won't be there until someone ships hardware with them. |
| 23:48.44 | Shefki | Then developers figure out cool things to do with it. |
| 23:48.56 | durcyn | Slayman: apple's motivation is very simple in that regard, having been fucked over by letting other companies control the uses of their platform in the past, they are determined to build it themselves |
| 23:49.01 | Shefki | We just got the hardware, now it's on the developers. |
| 23:49.05 | pompy | isnt the multitasking added in iOS4 not even working? |
| 23:49.18 | Shefki | pompy: It only works on iPhone 4's. |
| 23:49.20 | sylvaan | it works afaik |
| 23:49.28 | Shefki | Which nobody has yet. |
| 23:49.32 | kagaro | Shefki: it works on 3gs as well since i updated today |
| 23:49.32 | sylvaan | on 3GS and iphone 4 |
| 23:49.33 | durcyn | it's the same deal as disallowing cross-compiled applications a la Adobe, which bit them in the ass ten years ago |
| 23:49.40 | Slayman | apple: "yeah and while we are at it let's make it so nonfacetimers can't videophone with our iphone users" |
| 23:49.44 | durcyn | if you recall metrowerx |
| 23:49.47 | Shefki | kagaro: Ohh is it just the 3g that it doesn't work on? I thought it didn't work on 3gs too. |
| 23:49.58 | sylvaan | yeah just the 3G |
| 23:50.06 | kagaro | its working on my 3gs |
| 23:50.08 | Slayman | well besides the apple-idiocy. That new display sure looks mighty nice on video |
| 23:50.23 | pompy | well on that AOTS show, the host showed it on his iphone and the app had to load again |
| 23:50.37 | kagaro | it would havent been better if they push a release not telling people how to use it |
| 23:50.51 | durcyn | Slayman: it's not idiocy, though, that's the misunderstanding. |
| 23:51.13 | durcyn | they are simply not interested in losing control of the platform in any way |
| 23:51.16 | durcyn | would you be? |
| 23:51.49 | Shefki | If you don't like Apple's control over the platform, just don't buy into it. |
| 23:51.52 | Shefki | Seems simple to me. |
| 23:51.57 | Slayman | yeah well it may be marketing-wise an insanely clever strategy but let's be honest those software patents are doing nothing to push the boundaries of hard- or software |
| 23:52.03 | sylvaan | i like what apple has done - i wish 1 thing though - that they let developers develop on their own device for free |
| 23:52.18 | sylvaan | other than that i have no complaints |
| 23:52.35 | Shefki | sylvaan: I think they should allow apps to be installed outside of the app store. |
| 23:52.42 | Shefki | Turn it off by default like android does. |
| 23:52.55 | Shefki | But I don't think it really hurts anything to allow 3rd party app installs. |
| 23:53.04 | Shefki | If they did that I wouldn't care what they rejected from their app store. |
| 23:53.20 | Shefki | Or if there was a fee to put stuff up on the app store. |
| 23:53.22 | sylvaan | Shefki: they can be on a limited basis |
| 23:53.27 | durcyn | now you're talking about revenue streams. |
| 23:53.30 | Shefki | sylvaan: Only if you're a developer. |
| 23:53.33 | sylvaan | right |
| 23:53.47 | Shefki | durcyn: There's no threat to their revenue stream if they do it right. |
| 23:53.57 | Shefki | How many Android apps actually go around the Android market? |
| 23:53.59 | Shefki | Not very many. |
| 23:54.36 | Shefki | I think I've installed 3 things on my EVO outside of the market. |
| 23:54.43 | Shefki | And 2 of them were bloody google things. |
| 23:54.52 | sylvaan | lol |
| 23:55.10 | Shefki | (ASE stuff) |
| 23:55.17 | Slayman | it's getting way late over here |
| 23:55.28 | sylvaan | its only 8 here |
| 23:55.29 | Shefki | Only other thing that comes to mind was the player for Sirius. |
| 23:55.33 | Shefki | Which oddly isn't on the market. |
| 23:55.40 | Shefki | But you download it from Sirius' website. |
| 23:55.56 | Slayman | let it be said that I hate my pc for powering off for no good reason, I'm out you have a nice night |
| 23:56.18 | Slayman | it's like 2 am over here |
| 23:56.19 | sylvaan | i got into some beta today mspot, i found out there was no iphone app for the music portion |
| 23:56.30 | Shefki | ok I take that back 4 things. |
| 23:56.32 | koaschten | so did anyone of you us guys already make a ticket asking "where is the privacy settings for RealID? Even facebook got em ..." ;) |
| 23:56.32 | Shefki | Swype. |
| 23:56.34 | sylvaan | its essentialy lala |
| 23:56.37 | Shefki | Which is in beta. |
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| 23:56.57 | Shefki | koaschten: Don't like it don't use it. |
| 23:57.05 | Shefki | Just like Facebook. |
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| 23:57.21 | Shefki | If you don't want people to know your private info, why are you joining Facebook. |
| 23:58.08 | durcyn | because i enjoy communicating with my technically unsavvy friends, and I've learned over the years that telling them "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG" is a rather inefficient way of keeping in touch. |
| 23:58.13 | Shefki | I think RealID really could be better, but it's not even a major feature of the game. |
| 23:58.17 | koaschten | Honestly? I can't believe the boss didn't ask the developers that question, because privacy is a big topic, do you believe the developers would have told the boss "dont like it dont use it" ? |
| 23:58.18 | Shefki | It's just an ancillary feature. |
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| 23:58.41 | Shefki | koaschten: I'm sure the bosses are aware of the issue. |
| 23:58.47 | Shefki | They just don't care. |
| 23:59.12 | Shefki | Or it's something they'll fix later. |
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| 23:59.42 | Aens|Superiority | pretty sure real id is a feature coming from the top, not the bottom |
