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| 00:58.18 | Groktar | yay |
| 00:58.26 | Groktar | my query works |
| 00:58.45 | Groktar | the page even loads faster than when i started adding stuff to it |
| 00:58.45 | Groktar | :D |
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| 02:43.06 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.2.10-15-g60055d9 / (7 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Added a class indicator, shows class icons for players, enabled on all units except player and pets |
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| 03:07.34 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.4-1-g63341a8 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Fixed invalid pattern match in group and individual player links |
| 03:13.26 | kagaro | hrmm im building an audio cue app to hook into bossmods to give people a yell like 'Hey dumbass move for defile' wondering if I should tell them 5 sec before AND if they are targetted |
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| 03:46.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * v1.1.0-beta2-42-g5604902 Frame.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 03:46.48 | Repo | 5604902: Removed the word "Miscellaneous" and the "Display Exclusions" checkbox from the Miscellaneous filter menu. |
| 03:46.49 | Repo | a5d4191: Ensure that the filter checkboxes are properly marked after a reset. |
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| 04:51.56 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r32 MTarget_Macro.lua: |
| 04:51.58 | Repo | Don't set the icon on edit, pass through nil so it will maintain the same icon. |
| 05:13.15 | asmodai | Torhal: One thing I don't get |
| 05:14.12 | asmodai | Torhal: Why does that scan button appear left in some windows, right in others? |
| 05:18.48 | Torhal | asmodai: ? |
| 05:19.47 | asmodai | Torhal: well |
| 05:20.00 | asmodai | in my inscription window the scan button appeared in the top-left part of the frame |
| 05:20.13 | asmodai | in my tailoring it was top right |
| 05:23.45 | asmodai | Torhal: unless there was some stray configuration part left over that caused that. |
| 05:24.48 | Torhal | That shouldn't ever happen. You have weird shit going on. |
| 05:25.15 | asmodai | Torhal: Mmm, there's an option for it though |
| 05:25.25 | asmodai | under Display options |
| 05:25.33 | Torhal | Yes, but it shouldn't be flipping back and forth |
| 05:25.49 | asmodai | Torhal: Unless I would have a profile for that character in place, no? |
| 05:26.21 | Torhal | Yah - but I was under the impression it was switching sides on the same toon |
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| 05:26.36 | asmodai | Torhal: No, sorry, omission of facts on my part. |
| 05:26.52 | asmodai | only woke up a few minutes ago |
| 05:27.05 | asmodai | I think it must've been a setting for that profile. |
| 05:27.08 | Torhal | Ok, that makes sense then |
| 05:27.16 | asmodai | (and it actually works nowadays XD ) |
| 05:27.31 | asmodai | Only bloody Quick Auctions uses top left/right already *sigh* |
| 05:27.38 | asmodai | tries to see how bottom looks |
| 05:28.09 | Torhal | Yah, and Shadowed didn't provide for a config option so you' |
| 05:28.14 | Torhal | you're boned there |
| 05:28.17 | asmodai | Ah, a floating button at the bottom. |
| 05:28.29 | asmodai | mmm, at least it won't overlap with QA's buttons. |
| 05:32.22 | asmodai | Torhal: got that message about filters and such for first aid too now (even did a reset filters to default a while ago) |
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| 05:35.22 | Torhal | asmodai: It's a bug :) |
| 05:35.37 | Torhal | Doesn't actually hurt anything, it's just annoying...and I forgot to fix it tonight |
| 05:39.07 | asmodai | Torhal: ok, yeah, you said it was a bug, but forgot to ask if it was a global one or per certain professions, hence I raised it again :) |
| 05:45.00 | Torhal | I haven't actually looked yet, but I'll assume it's global since I haven't done anything profession-specific in awhile. |
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| 05:47.34 | asmodai | ok |
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| 06:46.23 | evl | Is there any equivalent to UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid for party? |
| 06:47.29 | evl | DOH |
| 06:47.30 | evl | UnitPlayerOrPetInParty |
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| 09:52.42 | asmodai | nevcairiel: oi! |
| 09:52.44 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Around? |
| 09:53.27 | Kalroth | He is, but he's not going to respond until he knows if it's something boring you're bothering him with |
| 09:55.15 | asmodai | Kalroth: lol |
| 09:55.49 | asmodai | Just wondering about how much memory to go with for my new box... 4 GB? 8 GB? |
| 09:55.59 | asmodai | I'm leaning to just g o 8 |
| 09:56.31 | Kalroth | 6-8GB at least, yes |
| 09:56.46 | Kalroth | Memory is still very cheap, it'd be silly not to grab tons of it |
| 09:56.47 | SunTsu | asmodai: depends on what you plan to use as OS |
| 09:56.52 | Kalroth | I got 8GB on my machine at home |
| 09:58.07 | asmodai | Win 7 |
| 09:58.28 | asmodai | Kalroth: still very cheap? Prices have risen since last November by at least EUR 30-40 per kit |
| 09:58.28 | SunTsu | asmodai: if you need something 32 bit 4GB is all you can get, if you go 64bit see Kalroth ;) |
| 09:58.40 | asmodai | I use 64 bit already for the past couple of years |
| 09:59.09 | Kalroth | asmodai: Yes, but its still cheap :) |
| 09:59.40 | asmodai | I guess most games will already demand 4 GB nowadays? Haven't paid much attention to requirements posted |
| 10:10.03 | koaschten | asmodai unless the games are native 64bit apps they will be limited at 2gb for 32bit apps |
| 10:10.17 | asmodai | Ah that's true yea |
| 10:10.27 | asmodai | the process address space limitation on 32 bit Windows. |
| 10:10.36 | koaschten | yup |
| 10:11.05 | koaschten | which happens from time to time for me since they added the gfx cache thingy and i do a long session flying all over northrend |
| 10:11.15 | koaschten | and sadly, wow then simply crashes |
| 10:11.16 | asmodai | hmmm, guess it cannot hurt having 8 GB though since it's not just a gaming box |
| 10:11.19 | asmodai | seriously? :| |
| 10:11.25 | asmodai | that's sloppy |
| 10:11.40 | asmodai | Who of you uses SSDs btw? |
| 10:11.53 | koaschten | <- indilinx |
| 10:12.02 | koaschten | ultradrive gx from supertalent |
| 10:12.29 | koaschten | 1. nothing smaller than 60gb, you will hate yourself quickly else |
| 10:12.45 | koaschten | 2. indilinx, intel or sandstorm controller |
| 10:12.59 | koaschten | 3. mlc (unless you have a ton of money for slc) |
| 10:13.13 | koaschten | !google anandtech ssd for indepth readup |
| 10:14.52 | asmodai | yeah, was looking at things and 30 GB seems to be tad bit small |
| 10:15.03 | asmodai | so 60 GB as my min size |
| 10:15.09 | asmodai | Was leaning towards OCZ SSDs |
| 10:16.35 | asmodai | but then the question becomes, use the SSD as boot disk or use the SSD for my game disk |
| 10:18.41 | koaschten | i use it as system + selected games disk |
| 10:18.48 | koaschten | + a TB hdd as data detention |
| 10:29.25 | asmodai | koaschten: How long are they nowadays supposed to last? |
| 10:30.42 | koaschten | no idea |
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| 10:31.00 | koaschten | mine under heavy usage claims to have a wearlevel of 25% after a year |
| 10:35.55 | wink | Intel X25-M laying on my desk atm |
| 10:36.00 | wink | 160 GB |
| 10:36.38 | wink | just waiting for the new thinkpad to arrive :P |
| 10:37.48 | sbu | giev! :p |
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| 10:55.25 | asmodai | koaschten: Wonder how long they will last for real |
| 10:56.08 | koaschten | i'll let you know if mine broke after 4 years ;) |
| 10:58.01 | Kalroth | now you jinxed it |
| 10:58.46 | asmodai | hehe |
| 10:58.52 | asmodai | *crashes on next game load* |
| 11:02.08 | koaschten | http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/wowace.com |
| 11:02.14 | koaschten | cant ... stop ... laughing |
| 11:05.11 | olafski | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 11:05.13 | olafski | awesome |
| 11:15.47 | koaschten | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPxDfGLbP4E |
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| 11:25.58 | olafski | I think exodar should just take off again |
| 11:26.06 | olafski | with or without disco |
| 11:27.33 | SunTsu | sounds like the new cartago-thing |
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| 11:57.45 | asmodai | the only thing I dread about building a new system nowadays, which manufacturer to pick for the new casing. |
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| 12:01.12 | asmodai | Current one is an Enermax, people seem to be happy with Coolermaster and Antec cases |
| 12:08.12 | stolenlegacy | lol |
| 12:08.17 | stolenlegacy | just done MC with a mate |
| 12:08.21 | stolenlegacy | geddon binding drops, i win it |
| 12:08.27 | stolenlegacy | tell him he can have it if eye drops off raggy |
| 12:08.30 | stolenlegacy | guess what dropped |
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| 12:19.44 | wink | haah |
| 12:19.51 | vhaarr | asmodai: my next cabinet is a Lian Li PC-P50BSCAND |
| 12:19.51 | wink | I have one binding with me all the time |
| 12:20.38 | asmodai | Was looking at CoolerMaster now, didn't find the Antecs to look that nice |
| 12:21.48 | vhaarr | or possibly Fractal Design Define R2 if I'm not getting water cooling |
| 12:22.15 | vhaarr | which I am, so Lian Li it is |
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| 12:38.39 | kagaro | the intel X25-M rocks |
| 12:39.44 | kagaro | i use it as a seperate volume on my mac, where i keep SCII and wow |
| 12:42.07 | asmodai | was thinking of picking up the OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G |
| 12:42.35 | kagaro | the reviews i read gave the intel drive more points |
| 12:53.55 | Fisker | lol mac kagaro |
| 12:54.22 | Fisker | omg lol PC-P50BSCAND vhaarr |
| 12:54.53 | kagaro | mac + vmware fusion == the win |
| 12:55.22 | Fisker | lol mac + vmware fusion |
| 12:55.40 | kagaro | fear my dual quad core + 16G ram |
| 12:56.03 | Fisker | lol kagaro |
| 12:56.38 | kagaro | lol |
| 12:57.22 | Fisker | lol lol kagaro |
| 12:57.23 | Fisker | oh wait |
| 12:58.11 | kagaro | I only own a single windows machine for testing only |
| 12:58.20 | kagaro | everything else mac or linux |
| 12:58.38 | Kalroth | lol mac |
| 12:58.47 | Fisker | shame on you |
| 12:58.49 | kagaro | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 12:58.49 | kagaro | /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 |
| 12:58.49 | kagaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.49 | kagaro | /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 193M 24M 160M 13% /boot |
| 12:58.49 | kagaro | tmpfs 1013M 0 1013M 0% /dev/shm |
| 12:58.50 | kagaro | /dev/md/d0 12T 3.9T 7.2T 36% /data |
| 12:59.27 | kagaro | wrong window |
| 12:59.34 | Fisker | lol window |
| 13:00.03 | vhaarr | Fisker: what's wrong with that? |
| 13:00.46 | Fisker | i don't know what it is yet so give me a minute |
| 13:01.01 | vhaarr | haha |
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| 13:01.40 | vhaarr | I'm off for dinner, have fun :P |
| 13:01.40 | Fisker | no i dinner u |
| 13:01.40 | Fisker | besides |
| 13:01.40 | Fisker | it's 15 |
| 13:02.04 | vhaarr | I have to actually buy my dinner, then cook it |
| 13:02.09 | vhaarr | it will be 17:30 before I actually eat |
| 13:02.53 | Fisker | it looks like a mini-itx case |
| 13:03.01 | Fisker | boos |
| 13:03.37 | Fisker | http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/flashpage/a77f/ <-this is a case |
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| 13:17.30 | Cardozo | ... |
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| 13:21.36 | Dessa | orly. |
| 13:22.30 | Repo | 10acheron_graph: 03zhTW * r9 / (2 files in 2 directories): Acheron_Graph : |
| 13:22.32 | Repo | - Add zhTW |
| 13:27.18 | Mihau | Really. |
| 13:28.54 | Repo | 10acheron_graph: 03zhTW * r10 / (2 files in 2 directories): Acheron_Graph : |
| 13:28.56 | Repo | - Add zhCN |
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| 14:21.32 | asmodai | Mmm, that Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced is also kind of sweet |
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| 14:22.02 | asmodai | Although those two new Lian Li are interesting too PC-8/9F(I) |
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| 15:29.47 | arkanes_ | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937482 |
| 15:30.04 | arkanes_ | this has me dying at my desk |
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| 15:58.54 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i work at that time, you know! |
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| 16:03.45 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
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| 16:15.35 | asmodai | nevcairiel: so do I :P |
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| 18:05.00 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I demand a shrubbery |
| 18:05.45 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 18:05.48 | nevcairiel | hands one over |
| 18:06.51 | asmodai | \o/ |
| 18:07.09 | asmodai | nevcairiel: how much mem did you stuff in your box? |
| 18:07.15 | nevcairiel | 8 |
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| 18:12.02 | asmodai | nevcairiel: k, going to start ordering parts this month |
| 18:12.08 | nevcairiel | finally :p |
| 18:12.09 | asmodai | nevcairiel: doubt prices will get better :S |
| 18:18.07 | asmodai | that's a shitload of mats: http://ww2.whatsthemats.com/item/49040 |
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| 19:36.46 | steev | so, healers pretty much just heal through unchained magic in icc 10 normal? |
| 19:37.50 | steev | we're able to push her into p3, but, then we have issues with the tank switch for mystic buffet |
| 19:38.05 | steev | not sure why but the druid who picks her up dies almost immediately |
| 19:38.39 | arkanes_ | your healers are bad and not following the tank swap |
| 19:38.58 | steev | yes, i am bad, i know that already - but i still don't see how he dies so fast |
| 19:39.10 | steev | he's got a ton of health, i shouldn't have to be chain casting on him |
| 19:39.11 | arkanes_ | how fast is "fast" |
| 19:39.19 | steev | shotted by frost breath |
| 19:39.26 | stolenlegacy | then he didn't dump his stacks |
| 19:39.31 | steev | aha |
| 19:39.40 | arkanes_ | frost breath hits for maybe 40k tops in normal |
| 19:39.45 | arkanes_ | so yeah its stacks |
| 19:39.48 | stolenlegacy | more lik 35k on 10man |
| 19:39.51 | stolenlegacy | like* |
| 19:39.56 | stolenlegacy | tell him to get the polar set crafted |
| 19:40.00 | stolenlegacy | if he keeps having issues |
| 19:40.03 | arkanes_ | he shouldn't need that |
| 19:40.04 | steev | we're going back in on 10 tonight after i get out of our 25 man |
| 19:40.12 | arkanes_ | he's probably not LOSing correctly |
| 19:40.25 | steev | probably not - but we've started consistently getting to p3 |
| 19:40.28 | steev | so thats nice |
| 19:40.32 | arkanes_ | she melees like a girl in normal |
| 19:40.45 | stolenlegacy | maybe the blocks are dying too quickly |
| 19:40.46 | steev | i suggested a new method of downing her since they were doing it like we normally do in 25 |
| 19:40.56 | steev | no, the blocks are definitely not dying too quickly |
| 19:40.59 | steev | trust me on that one :P |
| 19:40.59 | arkanes_ | tanks need to be vocal if that happens |
| 19:41.06 | arkanes_ | but even then |
| 19:41.07 | stolenlegacy | then he fails at los |
| 19:41.10 | Megalon | arkanes_: coupled with the fact that sindragosa IS a girl |
| 19:41.13 | steev | yeah ill point that out to him |
| 19:41.20 | stolenlegacy | tell him to stay behind the block until the stack drops |
| 19:41.25 | stolenlegacy | not enough to stay for 1 sec |
| 19:41.29 | stolenlegacy | think it takes 4 or 5 |
| 19:41.51 | arkanes_ | on normal, if he uses CDs and your healrs on the ball you can probably go up to 10 stacks without too much trouble |
| 19:42.01 | arkanes_ | thats like 3 failed clears |
| 19:42.08 | arkanes_ | so theres a lot of wiggle room |
| 19:42.09 | steev | well |
| 19:42.14 | steev | we have a paladin who tanks her |
| 19:42.18 | steev | up to p3 |
| 19:42.29 | arkanes_ | is he not clearing at the first block before taunting? |
| 19:42.43 | stolenlegacy | if he keeps having problems, polar set helps a bit |
| 19:42.44 | steev | mmm, probably not |
| 19:42.53 | arkanes_ | like maye he taunts when the block goes out, but doesn't clear behind it first |
| 19:42.55 | arkanes_ | if so, thats wrong |
| 19:43.17 | steev | he kind of annoys me because he insists on staying in close to her and gets tailsmashed |
| 19:43.23 | steev | "cats can move fast" |
| 19:43.24 | stolenlegacy | still, he needs about 6-7 stacks on 10man normal for a oneshot |
| 19:43.35 | arkanes_ | the knockback tail smash? |
| 19:43.37 | stolenlegacy | tell him to move the hell out, he's a tank aÅyways |
| 19:43.42 | steev | arkanes_: yes |
| 19:43.46 | arkanes_ | thats retarded |
| 19:43.50 | steev | yes i know |
| 19:44.00 | stolenlegacy | get a better tank if you ask me |
| 19:44.01 | arkanes_ | there's no reason why anyone in this game should not know where you stand when yuo fight dragons |
| 19:44.11 | stolenlegacy | to the side of the back legs |
| 19:44.12 | arkanes_ | there's also a melee targetted one with a very small AOE |
| 19:44.12 | stolenlegacy | wasn't it |
| 19:44.30 | steev | oh sorry no |
| 19:44.34 | arkanes_ | so melee should stay spread out a bit, maye 5 yards |
| 19:44.36 | steev | its the small one that knocks you down, not back |
| 19:44.47 | arkanes_ | yeah thats randomly targetted |
| 19:44.47 | steev | the one you're supposed to stand at pretty much max melee range |
| 19:44.58 | steev | (i normally dps in 25) |
| 19:45.06 | steev | or i tank in 10 - this is the one i'm doing on my healy alt |
| 19:45.10 | steev | with a different guild |
| 19:45.28 | arkanes_ | sounds like he's not a very good tank |
| 19:45.37 | arkanes_ | and sindragosa is a hard fight to carry a tank through |
| 19:45.40 | steev | well |
| 19:45.47 | steev | he's a good tank, when he's actually tanking shit |
| 19:45.59 | steev | when he has to dps though, he stands in shit he shouldn't, because he has the extra health |
| 19:46.06 | arkanes_ | heh |
| 19:46.07 | arkanes_ | well, that happens |
| 19:46.37 | arkanes_ | you have a log? |
| 19:46.48 | steev | i do, but i haven't uploaded it - lemme go see |
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| 19:49.20 | steev | okay uploaded, lemme find it |
| 19:49.49 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7k9ifmd5yur3l947/ p.s. no laughing at how shitty i am |
| 19:49.53 | steev | well, you can laugh |
| 19:50.17 | ulic | hahaha |
| 19:51.13 | steev | any hints are definitely appreciated |
| 19:51.40 | steev | just keep in mind, none of these guys are hardcore raiders by any stretch, and its not uncommon for squigga to go afk for a half hour to smoke a bowl, make some food, forget he was playing wow |
| 19:52.25 | steev | tonight, i believe the plan was to have nightowl heal for her hots, and me heal, and he was going to bring his warlock so we weren't all dependent on him |
| 19:52.52 | Nivv | why would you keep someone around who was like that? |
| 19:54.02 | Nivv | I should give you the expression I use |
| 19:54.03 | steev | like i said, i run with a different guild, on my alt |
| 19:54.06 | Nivv | for sindragosa |
| 19:55.27 | Nivv | (type=TYPE_AURA and ((spell="Mystic Buffet" and amount > 5) or (spell="Instability" and amount > 3) or (spell="Chilled to the Bone" and amount > 4)) and targettype="Player") or spell="Ice Tomb" or |
| 19:55.31 | Nivv | (type=TYPE_DEATH and targettype="Player") or spell = "Blistering Cold" |
| 19:55.41 | Nivv | I was using that for normal modes when we first started |
| 19:55.49 | steev | hm? |
| 19:55.54 | Nivv | past that in the expression editor |
| 19:55.56 | Nivv | for the attempt |
| 19:55.57 | steev | oh i use that on wol |
| 19:55.58 | Nivv | paste* |
| 19:55.59 | steev | okay |
| 19:56.52 | steev | mmm |
| 19:56.57 | steev | seems to be empty |
| 19:57.11 | Nivv | then you did something wrong :) |
| 19:57.30 | Nivv | http://tinyurl.com/2eetvxqhttp://tinyurl.com/2eetvxq |
| 19:57.31 | Nivv | er |
| 19:57.32 | Nivv | http://tinyurl.com/2eetvxq |
| 19:57.32 | steev | should there be a ) at the end since you seem to start with a ( |
| 19:58.05 | Nivv | no |
| 19:58.14 | Nivv | just use the tinyurl :P |
| 19:58.16 | steev | oh duh |
| 19:58.18 | steev | there we go |
| 19:58.26 | steev | i was on the full report still :) sorry |
| 19:58.35 | Nivv | np |
| 19:58.51 | steev | hrm, no wtf |
| 19:59.26 | steev | ah okay there we go |
| 20:00.21 | Nivv | I just picked the longest attempt |
| 20:00.53 | steev | try 3 shows some |
| 20:00.59 | steev | try 5ish doesn't seem to |
| 20:01.26 | Nivv | did you follow my link? |
| 20:01.32 | steev | yes |
| 20:01.37 | Nivv | I'm reading it right now :P |
| 20:01.53 | Nivv | [00:57:10.194] Skunge afflicted by Mystic Buffet (7) from Sindragosa |
| 20:01.54 | Nivv | ^- bad |
| 20:02.02 | Nivv | [00:57:16.241] Bobthetanker afflicted by Mystic Buffet (8) from Sindragosa |
| 20:02.05 | Nivv | ^- where is the other tank |
| 20:02.11 | steev | bulldog is the other tank |
| 20:02.18 | Nivv | well he dies 3 seconds later |
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| 20:03.10 | Nivv | btw, fuck people with high ascii in their names |
| 20:03.18 | steev | p.s. i agree with you |
| 20:03.27 | steev | aphro and bull are a couple |
| 20:03.48 | steev | if you can't get the name you want, just pick a new one, don't use fucked up chars imo |
| 20:04.08 | steev | or do what i did and just check daily on the server to see if the name is available |
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| 20:06.16 | Nivv | so in attempt 5 |
| 20:06.21 | Nivv | no one really healed bulldog |
| 20:06.33 | Nivv | for 14 seconds |
| 20:06.40 | Nivv | and he had chilled to the bone going |
| 20:07.07 | Nivv | ate a tail smash, taunted I assume, diede from the cleave + aura + CttB |
| 20:08.14 | Nivv | your tanks are failing to clear debuffs well for one thing |
| 20:08.36 | Nivv | you have people dying to basic things like blistering cold (wtf?) |
| 20:09.01 | Nivv | you have people stacking instability up in phase 3 |
| 20:09.11 | Nivv | and they don't ahve immunities |
| 20:09.14 | Nivv | have* |
| 20:10.08 | steev | they haven't mastered the art of ghetto buffs |
| 20:10.14 | Nivv | ? |
| 20:10.23 | steev | brezes/ankh no one rebuffs them |
| 20:10.32 | Nivv | well that sucks |
| 20:10.36 | steev | during one attempt, i don't remember which |
| 20:10.38 | Nivv | but what does that have to do with mechanics failure? |
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| 20:10.40 | steev | i got the first iceblock |
| 20:10.47 | arkanes_ | theres no RNG death on sindragosa though |
| 20:10.50 | steev | and i'm tank heals, and squigga sucks |
| 20:10.53 | arkanes_ | ghetto buffs and good and all |
| 20:11.03 | arkanes_ | but there's no excuse for dying to instability |
| 20:11.09 | Nivv | squigga is stacking instability to like 8 in phase 3 |
| 20:11.16 | Nivv | so of course he dies |
| 20:11.31 | arkanes_ | (I changed boss mods once and stacked isntability to like 25 before I noticed, because the alert was in a different place) |
| 20:11.43 | steev | i use dxe |
| 20:11.51 | arkanes_ | yeah I do too |
| 20:11.55 | steev | i know i stack instability but i can bubble it off |
| 20:12.01 | arkanes_ | it was showing it to me, just not in the place I was used to looking |
| 20:12.02 | steev | i don't always but i know i can |
| 20:12.04 | arkanes_ | so I died :( |
| 20:12.22 | steev | its a lot different healing a fight versus melee dpsing it :) |
| 20:12.31 | arkanes_ | it was okay though, we wiped anyway cause people are bad at iceblocks |
| 20:12.49 | steev | well we moved to a different strategy these past attempts |
| 20:12.59 | steev | so we're actually getting her to p3, which is nice |
| 20:13.15 | arkanes_ | you've got a lot of people who just aren't executing the mechanics correctly |
| 20:13.23 | steev | lemme see if bob is on |
| 20:13.34 | Nivv | steev: so what attempt were you talking about earlier? |
| 20:13.39 | Nivv | where your druid got killed immediately |
| 20:14.00 | arkanes_ | Can't really say what the solution is, if you need better communication, or if people need to read up on the abilities some more, or if they're just bad and need shouting |
| 20:14.22 | Nivv | that druid is gemming agility eh... |
| 20:14.25 | steev | mm |
| 20:14.41 | steev | arkanes_: i'd be going most for the latter |
| 20:14.53 | steev | these are the "leftovers" from a guild that split |
| 20:15.14 | Nivv | I can see why |
| 20:15.30 | steev | yeah, but the other option i have is |
| 20:15.36 | steev | not going to icc at all on my paladin |
| 20:15.41 | arkanes_ | server xfer and come run with us |
| 20:15.43 | Nivv | or find a new guild? |
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| 20:15.51 | steev | Nivv: she's an alt |
| 20:15.54 | arkanes_ | we've got a spot in our 10 hardmode group |
| 20:15.55 | steev | i go on my main |
| 20:16.08 | steev | but at this point |
| 20:16.13 | steev | there's 2 drops i can get |
| 20:16.15 | arkanes_ | well for your main we would :P |
| 20:16.18 | Nivv | which is your paladin? |
| 20:16.19 | steev | and we extended our raid |
| 20:16.21 | steev | worthy |
| 20:16.31 | steev | and yes, i'm bad :) |
| 20:16.31 | arkanes_ | do you have a frostwyrm yet? |
| 20:16.35 | steev | a what |
| 20:16.36 | steev | no |
| 20:16.46 | arkanes_ | see, thats a drop |
| 20:16.47 | arkanes_ | sort of |
| 20:16.57 | Nivv | so you're stretching your gear |
| 20:17.00 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Steev |
| 20:17.02 | Nivv | should be fine though |
| 20:17.07 | steev | that is my main |
| 20:17.35 | Nivv | god damn all you people with ribbons |
| 20:17.40 | steev | being as i'm getting shadowmourne |
| 20:17.44 | arkanes_ | sweet |
| 20:17.47 | steev | i can't really bring the paladin |
| 20:17.58 | steev | otherwise i miss out on chances at shards |
| 20:17.58 | arkanes_ | our star warrior is working on his shards |
| 20:18.10 | Nivv | we're working on #2 |
| 20:18.18 | steev | i'm only at 13 at the moment, and based on our current progress, it will be ~mid august |
| 20:18.29 | arkanes_ | I think our guy is at 11ish |
| 20:18.37 | steev | we're only on 25 normal |
| 20:18.39 | arkanes_ | only his second week working on it |
| 20:18.45 | steev | but we've started getting lk to p3 |
| 20:18.48 | arkanes_ | so we're making decent progress |
| 20:18.57 | steev | i think this is week four? |
| 20:18.59 | arkanes_ | p2 is the hardest bit |
| 20:19.00 | steev | for me |
| 20:19.09 | arkanes_ | we're 8/12 hard modes, so he's got an edge on you |
| 20:19.12 | steev | we pushed him to 20.7% on one of our attempts this week |
| 20:19.19 | Nivv | yea, our hardmode drops have been crazy lately |
| 20:19.25 | Nivv | we're at 17 shards in 2 weeks |
| 20:19.28 | Nivv | on #2 |
| 20:19.30 | arkanes_ | nice |
| 20:19.32 | steev | hate |
| 20:19.39 | Nivv | and we have 3 bosses left up for the week |
| 20:19.44 | steev | kinda hard to switch guilds though, you know? |
| 20:19.47 | Nivv | heroic sindragosa is being our raid up |
| 20:19.59 | arkanes_ | we haven't done that yet |
| 20:20.00 | Nivv | steev: it's hard for me, since I made this guild ;) |
| 20:20.05 | Nivv | beating* |
| 20:20.09 | steev | i actually beat a premo dk that was also dual wielding at dps in VoA |
| 20:20.19 | steev | wasn't an alt either :P |
| 20:20.47 | steev | i normally run 25s as unholy but for lk i've been going as frost since we have 2 boomkin |
| 20:20.53 | Nivv | our DK ranks a lot of fights |
| 20:20.55 | Nivv | Alki |
| 20:21.05 | steev | i do not rank any fights :( |
| 20:21.23 | Nivv | he's #3 in line for shadowmourne though |
| 20:21.24 | arkanes_ | we went from barely being able to hit p2 on LK to 8/12 hardmodes with a guild reorganization in about 3 weeks |
| 20:21.26 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/3qpd1wq2orlsign4/ |
| 20:21.40 | Nivv | well to be fair |
| 20:21.45 | Nivv | 8/12 hardmodes aren't very hard |
| 20:21.49 | Nivv | it's 9-12 that are rough |
| 20:21.55 | Nivv | LK might be harder than 8/12 |
| 20:21.56 | arkanes_ | its true |
| 20:22.03 | steev | which by the way |
| 20:22.10 | arkanes_ | we've got LK too though :) |
| 20:22.13 | Nivv | mainly just because defile screws people |
| 20:22.14 | steev | if anyone has some advice for the main, that is appreciated :) |
| 20:22.19 | Nivv | that can't pay attention |
| 20:22.24 | steev | we've actually gotten really good at defile lately |
| 20:22.33 | steev | just usually get screwed with the second defile |
| 20:22.34 | Nivv | if you're into p3, it's pretty much done |
| 20:22.43 | arkanes_ | we picked up a bunch of people who know what they're doing, and lost the people who kept us wiping for a month on sindragosa |
| 20:22.46 | steev | we lose a ton of people to infest |
| 20:22.48 | Nivv | if your RL is calling it out, it's pretty idiot proof |
| 20:22.53 | arkanes_ | that second defile is the stepping stone |
| 20:22.54 | steev | in p3 |
| 20:22.55 | Nivv | I just call for people to collapse on LK for valyks |
| 20:22.57 | Nivv | and spread for defile |
| 20:22.58 | Nivv | in p2 |
| 20:23.10 | Nivv | in p3, call defile, kite the spirits side to side on the platform |
| 20:23.13 | steev | Nivv: we do that as well, just the second defile+valk usually we lose at least 1 |
| 20:23.13 | arkanes_ | once everyone can handle the second defile cleanly you've basically got p2 |
| 20:23.17 | Nivv | and have your tanks taunt them and blow them up |
| 20:23.24 | Nivv | anyone else should only take 1 at a time |
| 20:23.25 | Nivv | or so |
| 20:23.27 | steev | yeah we haven't worked out the vile spirits |
| 20:23.38 | Nivv | vile spirits aren't bad |
| 20:23.39 | steev | ranged is supposed to be hitting them |
| 20:23.43 | steev | or some shit |
| 20:23.44 | Nivv | no |
| 20:23.47 | Nivv | we don't dps them at all |
| 20:23.52 | Nivv | dps LK |
| 20:23.55 | Nivv | kite the spirits |
| 20:23.58 | Nivv | take 1 hit at a time |
| 20:24.02 | Nivv | tanks can take a few more |
| 20:24.08 | steev | how do you kite them, if i might ask |
| 20:24.19 | Nivv | so when we come back in from the transition |
| 20:24.25 | Nivv | I tank LK right on the edge of the platform |
| 20:24.27 | steev | i'm normally staring at the lk's ass, so i dunno where they even are half the time |
| 20:24.32 | Nivv | when he channels vile spirits, I move across to the other side |
| 20:24.45 | Nivv | they take a while to aggro and move |
| 20:24.55 | Nivv | have the tank who isn't active go pick a few off |
| 20:25.03 | Nivv | (they expload when you run into them) |
| 20:25.04 | steev | so ot should throw his shield and taunt? |
| 20:25.06 | Nivv | they are tauntable too |
| 20:25.22 | Nivv | if it's a a paladin, you can really have fun |
| 20:25.28 | Nivv | bubble and blow them all up |
| 20:25.38 | Nivv | I have to be careful as a warrior |
| 20:25.41 | Nivv | or I die :) |
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| 20:25.51 | Nivv | but I just stick vigilence on our other tank |
| 20:25.55 | Nivv | and taunt them to me as fast as I can |
| 20:26.03 | Nivv | and run into them when they aren't ontop of other people |
| 20:26.11 | pentium166 | vigilance on MT = :( |
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| 20:26.17 | Nivv | oh no! |
| 20:26.20 | Nivv | not the threat! |
| 20:26.23 | Nivv | threat is hard! |
| 20:26.31 | arkanes_ | shadow priests & warlocks can kill a ton of them before they even come down |
| 20:26.37 | steev | Nivv: really? |
| 20:26.41 | Nivv | we switch back and forth, the DK doesn't have vigilence and just gets less of them |
| 20:26.43 | steev | you can bubble and still keep the threat? |
| 20:26.49 | Nivv | steev: threat on what? |
| 20:26.53 | steev | the dk should be able to ams and do the same thing |
| 20:26.55 | steev | on vile spirits |
| 20:26.56 | arkanes_ | if youv'e got some pally healers, have them bubble in the middle and keep healing |
| 20:27.03 | steev | how does he bubble and throw them out |
| 20:27.07 | Nivv | vile spirits don't need aggro |
| 20:27.08 | pentium166 | apparently it is because i'm going to overtake our warrior MT if I don't get put into the sword thing |
| 20:27.08 | steev | arkanes_: no pally healers in our 25 |
| 20:27.13 | arkanes_ | steev: rough |
| 20:27.13 | Nivv | they blow up on impact of anyone |
| 20:27.15 | Nivv | aggro'd or not |
| 20:27.21 | pentium166 | well, it's not just vigilance |
| 20:27.30 | steev | i also don't know |
| 20:27.35 | pentium166 | two warrior tanks and the offtank intervenes the main tank for safeguard |
| 20:27.36 | Nivv | pentium166: what do you play? |
| 20:27.37 | steev | how we do in the room |
| 20:27.38 | arkanes_ | warriors have extremely solid single target threat |
| 20:27.40 | pentium166 | enhancement |
| 20:27.48 | Nivv | pentium166: intervene is a threat reduction |
| 20:27.51 | Nivv | 5% |
| 20:27.51 | pentium166 | yeah |
| 20:27.53 | Nivv | each time |
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| 20:27.54 | steev | since the only time i've ever gotten harvest soul, i've died to the harvest itself, didn't make it into the room |
| 20:27.57 | arkanes_ | on a fight like LK you shouldn't be having significant threat issues |
| 20:28.08 | pentium166 | with two warriors and one intervening the main tank, you do |
| 20:28.20 | Nivv | steev: dps the mob if you're dps, heal the NPC if you're a healer |
| 20:28.22 | arkanes_ | eh yeah with that |
| 20:28.23 | Nivv | interrupt the spell cast |
| 20:28.29 | Nivv | or dispell it off the NPC if you can't interrupt |
| 20:28.35 | Nivv | it's easy |
| 20:28.47 | Nivv | and just make sure someone is assigned to heal the person as they are stunned and sucked inside |
| 20:28.52 | arkanes_ | we had him enrage last time even though the guy who went down did it correctly |
| 20:28.54 | Nivv | p2 is the only hard part of LK |
| 20:28.56 | arkanes_ | it was wierd |
| 20:29.00 | Nivv | defile+valks, getting that down and you're there |
| 20:29.01 | Nivv | (for normal) |
| 20:29.11 | Nivv | arkanes_: they did a poor job |
| 20:29.12 | Nivv | ;) |
| 20:29.20 | arkanes_ | Nivv: nah he did what he was supposed to |
| 20:29.25 | Nivv | arkanes_: not enough of it |
| 20:29.28 | steev | arkanes_: we had someone get in there and dps the mob down... and then stay in there |
| 20:29.30 | arkanes_ | was a glitch of some kind |
| 20:29.41 | arkanes_ | he killed the add and dispelled the NPC |
| 20:29.42 | Nivv | was it a healer? |
| 20:29.43 | pentium166 | The first time I went down I failed it, because my wind shear focus macro was trying to hit the LK still and I didn't notice |
| 20:29.45 | arkanes_ | shadow priest |
| 20:29.55 | Nivv | did they not dispell right away or something? |
| 20:30.01 | arkanes_ | he says he got it |
| 20:30.08 | arkanes_ | and he's an excellent player so I have no reason to not believe him |
| 20:30.10 | Nivv | after the mob was dead though? |
| 20:30.19 | steev | yes |
| 20:30.31 | arkanes_ | but when he killed the add, he was killed and the LK enraged |
| 20:30.35 | steev | he killed the mob, and just stayed in the room, it never brought him back |
| 20:30.42 | steev | then he died |
| 20:30.51 | steev | and lk went nuts on us |
| 20:31.09 | arkanes_ | if your tanks are on the ball and you get a little lucky you can make it through the enrages |
| 20:31.17 | Nivv | yea, it's iffy though |
| 20:31.18 | arkanes_ | our first kill we failed *every* harvest soul |
| 20:31.30 | Nivv | the big problem is the 50k base hit |
| 20:31.35 | Nivv | not so much the melee dmg |
| 20:31.46 | arkanes_ | a lot of times he'll start summing vile spirits right after the harvest fails |
| 20:31.48 | Nivv | so if you have a GS or something strong enough, you can manage it |
| 20:32.00 | arkanes_ | and by the time he gets back on the tank the enrage will be off |
| 20:32.03 | Nivv | we've only failed it 2-3 times |
| 20:32.09 | steev | GS? |
| 20:32.16 | arkanes_ | so get a little lucky with avoidance or fast fingers with a shield wall/gs and you can often make it |
| 20:32.34 | steev | well our main tank is freaking awesome |
| 20:32.34 | arkanes_ | guardian spirit |
| 20:32.38 | steev | ahh |
| 20:32.41 | steev | yeah no guardian spirit |
| 20:32.52 | steev | apparently our paladin healer is getting married this saturday so she's been kinda busy lately |
| 20:32.55 | arkanes_ | no pallies and no holy priests? |
| 20:32.59 | arkanes_ | whats your healing core look likke |
| 20:33.08 | steev | i think vale is disc, but she might be holy |
| 20:33.21 | arkanes_ | if you only have 1 priest she should be disc on LK |
| 20:33.26 | steev | wave - shaman with val, 3x druid, 1 priest think disc |
| 20:33.32 | arkanes_ | man |
| 20:33.39 | steev | i *think* thats it |
| 20:33.46 | steev | might have the other priest also disc |
| 20:33.49 | steev | not sure though |
| 20:34.18 | arkanes_ | we use 2 pallies, 2 priests, a druid and a shaman |
| 20:34.29 | steev | okay |
| 20:34.34 | arkanes_ | sometimes an extra druid and/or shaman |
| 20:34.36 | steev | looks like 2 priest, 3 druid, 1 shaman |
| 20:34.43 | arkanes_ | thats a rough combo |
| 20:34.46 | steev | not sure what shepard's spec is though, i thought he was holy |
| 20:35.04 | arkanes_ | since you've got hardly any external CDs for your tanks |
| 20:35.07 | arkanes_ | I guess the brezzes help |
| 20:35.33 | arkanes_ | do you wipe to tank death a lot? |
| 20:35.37 | steev | no |
| 20:35.41 | arkanes_ | good for them then |
| 20:35.45 | steev | we wipe to um |
| 20:35.50 | Nivv | We do 2xpally,2xdisc,1xdruid,1-2xshaman |
| 20:35.52 | steev | healer death/carried off edge |
| 20:35.57 | arkanes_ | they're playing uphill against the tank damage |
| 20:35.57 | Nivv | usually 1 shaman |
| 20:36.01 | steev | we only have 1 valynar |
| 20:36.03 | steev | or whatever |
| 20:36.13 | steev | the second one is supposed to go to attrox, but she doesn't have all the shards |
| 20:36.18 | steev | i can't remember what she is at |
| 20:36.28 | steev | she is a friggin amazing druid healer though |
| 20:36.36 | Nivv | we only have 1 mace as well |
| 20:36.40 | steev | which isn't bad for raiding drunk 90% of the time :P |
| 20:36.46 | arkanes_ | we don't have a valanyr :( |
| 20:37.06 | steev | wave got it, and i love seeing that bubble pop up on me |
| 20:37.14 | steev | specially since i've switch back to the default uf |
| 20:37.15 | arkanes_ | our druid is good, but she's also a world-class priest |
| 20:37.20 | steev | and pay 0 attention to my health |
| 20:37.23 | arkanes_ | which she never plays any more for some reason |
| 20:37.32 | Nivv | steev: anyway, I like to wear frost resist for sindragosa, but it's pretty serious overkill for 10n |
| 20:37.43 | Nivv | oh, and I'm corrected |
| 20:37.46 | Nivv | we have 19 shards for SM #2 |
| 20:37.47 | steev | Nivv: it might be helpful for our group makeup |
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| 20:38.12 | Nivv | steev: it just gives you more wiggle room for mystic buffet clearing issues + frost breaths |
| 20:38.20 | Nivv | keep in mind that you can LoS blistering cold behind iceblocks |
| 20:38.28 | Nivv | but I wouldn't do it after looking at your parses |
| 20:38.31 | Nivv | lots of basic mechanic failures |
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| 20:38.33 | arkanes_ | no you can't |
| 20:38.36 | Nivv | LoS is harder than most of them |
| 20:38.38 | Nivv | arkanes_: yea you can :) |
| 20:38.40 | arkanes_ | unless it's been changed? |
| 20:39.01 | arkanes_ | i haven't tried it since it was progression for us, but the blistering cold went right through the block |
| 20:39.11 | Nivv | we had mixed results early on |
| 20:39.16 | Nivv | but success on hardmode with it |
| 20:39.29 | Nivv | once we could trust that people knew how to LoS ;) |
| 20:39.38 | arkanes_ | they can be a little tricky sometimes |
| 20:39.56 | Nivv | only if someone is dumb and puts in right in the center of her body 5-10 yards out ;) |
| 20:39.56 | arkanes_ | I've had a couple times when no matter how I wiggled or juked I wasn't out of los |
| 20:41.20 | Nivv | not me |
| 20:42.47 | steev | yeah they have a lot of issues with frost bombs |
| 20:42.54 | steev | or breaking the tombs early |
| 20:43.10 | arkanes_ | that drives me insane |
| 20:43.11 | steev | we got *extremely* lucky on a few attempts with server lag in our favor |
| 20:43.27 | steev | where the frost bomb hit at the same time the tomb broke so we took no damage |
| 20:43.32 | arkanes_ | its not really a problem in normal, the frost bombs are entirely healable |
| 20:43.40 | Nivv | well |
| 20:43.41 | steev | arkanes_: not when you take 3 of em |
| 20:43.45 | Nivv | it depends on how badly you fail |
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| 20:44.02 | arkanes_ | theres plenty if time between them to top people off |
| 20:44.10 | Nivv | generally yes ;) |
| 20:44.10 | steev | and, fwiw, i do have to stretch my gear as i have the shittiest of luck with drops |
| 20:44.26 | steev | toravon hasn't dropped a paladin piece in at least 2 months |
| 20:44.31 | arkanes_ | theres no excuse for breaking tombs, though |
| 20:44.42 | steev | and i don't tend to run toc25 |
| 20:44.44 | arkanes_ | steev: do DPS assignments for them. Have 1 main and 1 backup DPS for each tomb |
| 20:44.46 | steev | last time i was in a pug |
| 20:44.54 | steev | they couldn't even get past beasts |
| 20:45.03 | steev | and i was tired of my repair bill |
| 20:45.06 | arkanes_ | nobody DPSes the tomb unless they're the main, or if they're the backup and the main is blocked |
| 20:45.27 | arkanes_ | with the 20% buff, you can almost wait until the 4th bomb to even start |
| 20:45.34 | steev | when i went on steev, we would put half and half |
| 20:45.43 | steev | and after she was landing was when we would break them out |
| 20:45.46 | steev | as* |
| 20:45.55 | steev | as she was landing |
| 20:46.10 | Nivv | arkanes_: no so much on hardmode |
| 20:46.21 | steev | i don't think we did her hardmode |
| 20:46.21 | arkanes_ | I haven't done 25 hard yet, but even on 10 we could |
| 20:46.32 | steev | how does 10 hard work |
| 20:46.34 | arkanes_ | if they have more health its not much |
| 20:46.46 | arkanes_ | steev: all the damage is more, and isntability blows up everyone around you |
| 20:46.47 | steev | just more tombs and more health on the tombs? |
| 20:46.56 | arkanes_ | tombs are the same, at least in 10 hard |
| 20:47.00 | steev | ahh |
| 20:47.01 | steev | okay |
| 20:47.11 | arkanes_ | she hits much, much harder |
| 20:47.15 | steev | ill have to see about doing her hard mode if i get to go this week |
| 20:47.26 | arkanes_ | tank damage is probably twice as much at least |
| 20:47.31 | steev | i went last week with a bunch of people from one of the top guilds on the server |
| 20:47.48 | arkanes_ | oh and frost bombs will one shot you |
| 20:48.07 | arkanes_ | so fucking up tombs in HM is absolutely forbidden |
| 20:48.34 | steev | http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/sen-jin |
| 20:48.57 | steev | we are 12 on the server, apparently |
| 20:48.59 | arkanes_ | server 12th ain't shabby |
| 20:49.16 | steev | not at all, for only 2-3 raid nights a week, 8-11 server |
| 20:49.18 | arkanes_ | I'm surprised your servers not more progressed as a whole though |
| 20:49.37 | steev | there is a LOT of pugging that goes on, on our server |
| 20:49.47 | arkanes_ | we have 2 US high ranking guilds on our server and our overall progression is quite high |
| 20:49.49 | arkanes_ | same with ours |
| 20:49.56 | Ac-town | steev: alliance, thats your problem |
| 20:50.03 | arkanes_ | we regularly have 11/12 25 man pugs, and 12/12 10 man ones |
| 20:50.07 | steev | Ac-town: agreed |
| 20:50.37 | steev | but our guild is mostly friends |
| 20:50.48 | Ac-town | I just got accecpted into a 11/12HM 25 guild |
| 20:50.55 | Ac-town | but I need to transfer :( |
| 20:51.03 | arkanes_ | apparently we're now 10th |
| 20:51.04 | arkanes_ | http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/turalyon |
| 20:51.06 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
| 20:51.08 | arkanes_ | so thats nice |
| 20:51.11 | steev | 330 members |
| 20:51.43 | steev | rank 4 are the raiders |
| 20:51.49 | steev | rank 1 is the guild leader, and her alts |
| 20:52.00 | steev | rank 2 are officers, and rank 3 are officer alts |
| 20:52.41 | steev | something isn't right there |
| 20:52.49 | Ac-town | lol |
| 20:52.53 | steev | so yeah - we have 17 raiders |
| 20:52.57 | steev | officers+guild leader |
| 20:53.05 | steev | and then a few initiates/members |
| 20:53.12 | steev | initiate->member->raider |
| 20:53.24 | steev | they keep the "raiders" rank very sparse |
| 20:53.37 | steev | in our experience, specially with ICC |
| 20:53.44 | steev | if someone has to sit because there are too many |
| 20:53.50 | steev | they usually leave the guild within the next week |
| 20:53.50 | Ac-town | ah |
| 20:54.17 | steev | and we're not doing too bad considering we had a shitton of people leave a few weeks/months ago |
| 20:54.27 | steev | 2 officers quit the game altogether |
| 20:54.36 | steev | the dk who WAS going to be getting shadowmourne first quit the game |
| 20:54.43 | arkanes_ | realm 4th to get our frostwyrms, but like 10-12th on all the individual achieves |
| 20:54.45 | arkanes_ | thats wierd |
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| 20:54.54 | steev | the dk who was going to be getting shadowmourne second said he was going to quit so they went on to me |
| 20:55.00 | steev | (and he hasn't quit) |
| 20:55.09 | Nivv | ausmara: there are 6 tombs in 25h |
| 20:55.23 | steev | yes |
| 20:55.39 | steev | its kind of weird because our OT |
| 20:55.39 | arkanes_ | ... it's got our glory of the icecrown raider registering weeks before any of the required achieves |
| 20:55.41 | arkanes_ | thats wierd |
| 20:55.42 | steev | is cocky about most things |
| 20:55.47 | steev | but he seems to be afraid of dying |
| 20:56.05 | arkanes_ | heh |
| 20:56.56 | steev | but i'll bring up the bubble taunt thing |
| 20:57.13 | steev | and maybe having the tanks switch off so the other one can then bubble and grab vile? or is that making it overly complicated |
| 20:57.43 | arkanes_ | you should be swapping tanks for soul reaper anyway |
| 20:57.52 | arkanes_ | so whoevers not tanking right then can grab viles |
| 20:58.21 | steev | mmm |
| 20:58.25 | steev | as far as i know |
| 20:58.33 | steev | boo just keeps tanking him through soul reaper |
| 20:58.39 | steev | boo = eccentrica |
| 20:58.46 | steev | in the 25 parses i showed |
| 20:58.49 | arkanes_ | what class is boo? |
| 20:58.55 | steev | both our tanks are paladins |
| 20:59.02 | arkanes_ | well paladins can eat it easier than most |
| 20:59.12 | arkanes_ | but its a lot of healing your healers don't need to be handling |
| 20:59.23 | steev | we've started getting really good at the shambling horrors too |
| 20:59.32 | steev | in that they die pretty much right before the whiteout happens |
| 20:59.42 | steev | whereas before we MIGHT have had one up near the end still |
| 20:59.44 | arkanes_ | he hits the tank with soul reaper for double damage |
| 20:59.49 | steev | so we've been able to move down two spot |
| 20:59.53 | steev | hmm |
| 20:59.54 | arkanes_ | so there's really no reason not to taunt |
| 21:00.29 | arkanes_ | whos your main tank healer, the shaman? |
| 21:01.53 | steev | um |
| 21:01.53 | steev | honestly i have no idea |
| 21:01.53 | steev | i don't hang out in the healer channel |
| 21:01.53 | steev | except when i'm on worthy |
| 21:01.54 | arkanes_ | well regardless |
| 21:01.54 | arkanes_ | taunting is just a good idea |
| 21:02.13 | steev | 4p t10 paladin healy set is bad confirm/deny |
| 21:02.15 | arkanes_ | especially if you're having trouble with infest |
| 21:02.18 | arkanes_ | confirm |
| 21:02.30 | arkanes_ | if your HL specced it's a net loss of casting speed to try to use it |
| 21:02.32 | steev | didn't you say i should buy the cloth emblem chest? |
| 21:02.39 | arkanes_ | and if you're a flasher, you're just bad |
| 21:03.16 | arkanes_ | if you have 2 piece already, and you don't care about offspec gear then yeah get the cloth chest |
| 21:03.33 | steev | don't care at all about offspec gear |
| 21:03.46 | steev | i've got a tank, i've got a dpser, this is mah healer |
| 21:03.54 | arkanes_ | theres not much interesting for holy from frosts |
| 21:04.01 | steev | :( |
| 21:04.09 | steev | so i need shit from 25s |
| 21:04.17 | steev | or sindragosa 10's shield :( |
| 21:04.23 | arkanes_ | theres plenty of good stuff in 10s too |
| 21:04.25 | steev | i really want that shield |
| 21:04.27 | steev | psh |
| 21:04.30 | arkanes_ | shields always suck :( |
| 21:04.47 | steev | plenty of good cloth, wands, 2h weapons, and leather |
| 21:04.55 | steev | that is all that drops |
| 21:04.59 | steev | when i'm in there |
| 21:05.14 | arkanes_ | soulcleave pendant |
| 21:05.16 | steev | its kinda frustrating because i go on steev and a shitload of paladin gear drops - and as i said |
| 21:05.23 | steev | we don't raid with a paladin |
| 21:05.24 | arkanes_ | umm |
| 21:05.33 | arkanes_ | the mail helm from lootship |
| 21:05.40 | steev | hasn't dropped |
| 21:05.48 | arkanes_ | theres some very nice mail boots, don't remember what boss its from |
| 21:05.51 | arkanes_ | lockjaw |
| 21:06.15 | arkanes_ | pallies in general are largely controlled by itemization |
| 21:06.37 | arkanes_ | you want haste/mp5 gear by preference, falling back to haste/crit and taking crit/mp5 only as a very last resort |
| 21:07.01 | steev | yeah, the issue i have is that the shit has to actually drop when i'm in there |
| 21:08.53 | arkanes_ | I used pulsing spellshield for longer than I like to talk about |
| 21:09.07 | arkanes_ | and you don't even really have that option I bet |
| 21:10.15 | steev | mmm |
| 21:10.21 | steev | i'm using the one from pit of saron |
| 21:10.25 | steev | its also a 219 |
| 21:10.42 | Ac-town | I used the toc10 healer shield for a while |
| 21:11.28 | arkanes_ | man I swear the phrase I hate reading on the wow forums more than anything else is "LIKE EVERY OTHER CLASS" |
| 21:11.33 | arkanes_ | always in caps, of course |
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| 22:40.58 | Ben^ | Anyone here know anything about Grid2? I get the impression from what I read that there's a way to configure raid debuffs in Grid2, but I just can't figure out how to. There's no drop-down or anything, just a single status |
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| 23:32.01 | Arrowmaster | Ben^: grid2 isnt finished afaik, its still very much a work in progress |
| 23:33.13 | Ben^ | I see. Alright. |
| 23:35.04 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r732 Dragonblight (9 files in 2 directories): Fix Anub'arak module to play nice with the ToC module |
| 23:35.11 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.5.0-1-g38de5f9 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Probably fixed "LiveList:Update_Display(): couldn't get range" error occuring when not using the MUFs. |
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| 23:49.11 | Wob-Sothoth | personally, FreebGrid is pretty awesome |
| 23:49.35 | Wob-Sothoth | if Grid2 borrows from Free's method of showing charge spells, it'll be good |
| 23:54.31 | arkanes | is that a grid lookalike made using ouf, or is it a grid addon? |
| 23:54.37 | arkanes | it's hard for me to tell |
| 23:55.50 | Wob-Sothoth | the former |
| 23:56.15 | Wob-Sothoth | it has the best method for displaying any healing spell that has a charge that I've seen in an addon |
| 23:56.25 | arkanes | do you have a screenie? |
| 23:56.34 | Wob-Sothoth | hm, not on me, no |
| 23:56.51 | Wob-Sothoth | but PoM is a series of different circles, depending on charge |
| 23:57.04 | Wob-Sothoth | Earth Shield, similarly |
| 23:57.16 | Wob-Sothoth | lifebloom is smiley faces... |
| 23:57.25 | arkanes | hmm |
| 23:57.33 | arkanes | not sure if I want it taking up that much space |
| 23:58.03 | Wob-Sothoth | the grid? |
| 23:58.08 | arkanes | no, the charges |
| 23:58.19 | Wob-Sothoth | it doesn't take up space |
| 23:58.32 | Wob-Sothoth | not easy to explain |
| 23:58.38 | Wob-Sothoth | but I suggest you run it to see |
| 23:58.38 | arkanes | I already have issues with my hot icons/timers taking up too much room on my layout |
| 23:58.43 | arkanes | I'll check it out |
| 23:58.58 | Wob-Sothoth | it handles hots by showing the remaining total healing and a countdown |