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00:22.48 | MysticalOS | mm, safari 5 goodness :) |
00:24.05 | NivFreak | screw safari, give me my iOS4 GM seed |
00:24.15 | NivFreak | "Later today" |
00:24.46 | Shefki | MysticalOS: Safari5 available now? |
00:24.52 | MysticalOS | yep |
00:24.58 | MysticalOS | very nice too |
00:25.09 | NivFreak | I'll probably play with it again |
00:25.10 | Shefki | There, Software Update finally finished, took forever to look for updates. Apple must be getting hit hard. |
00:25.14 | MysticalOS | they returned the address bar back to blue progress instead of spinning circle |
00:25.17 | NivFreak | chrome is being a PoS |
00:25.52 | MysticalOS | safari + http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ = your friend :) |
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00:27.15 | MysticalOS | hmm extentions aren't enabled by default, guess to keep the average end user safe. |
00:27.30 | MysticalOS | has to be enabled in the develop menu |
00:29.03 | MysticalOS | lol safari 4.1 for 10.4, not good enough for 5 i guess. |
00:29.06 | arkanes | does click2flash work with safari 5? |
00:29.14 | MysticalOS | yeah |
00:29.28 | MysticalOS | first thing i checked |
00:29.56 | Primer | People use safari? |
00:31.18 | MysticalOS | i use safari except when i get to a dumb webpage that's writen to require IE active x, bastards |
00:31.22 | Shefki | I never have really liked Safari. |
00:31.42 | Shefki | I mostly use Chrome now. |
00:31.43 | MysticalOS | safari was always lacking in features. but i never liked the other webkit based browsers |
00:32.11 | Shefki | "Bing Search Option" |
00:32.15 | Shefki | Seriously, who cares. |
00:32.30 | MysticalOS | heh i just wanna see what people do with safari extentions, been the biggest shortcoming of safari for so long |
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00:32.33 | Shefki | Is there seriously anyone out there that wants to use Bing as their default except Microsoft employees that are probably told they have ot. |
00:32.48 | NivFreak | firefox has gotten to be a bit of a pig, chrome has lots of stability/render issues for me |
00:32.49 | MysticalOS | we all know it's only there to mess with google |
00:33.15 | Shefki | Bing is only good if you're too stupid to know how to use Google. |
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00:36.18 | NivFreak | horay, the GM seed is up now too |
00:36.32 | kagaro | nice, time to login and start downloading |
00:37.36 | NivFreak | nice |
00:37.41 | NivFreak | server can't be found with some of the images |
00:38.05 | kagaro | you got a dev license niv? |
00:38.40 | MysticalOS | i get feeling i'm gonna be deleting music off iphone to make room for the size increase of ios4 |
00:38.42 | NivFreak | kagaro: ya |
00:38.59 | kagaro | im gona start my download once raid is done |
00:39.10 | MysticalOS | looks like itunes 9.2 beta for installing ios 4 |
00:39.34 | NivFreak | yea |
00:39.44 | NivFreak | which is good, because beta 4 wouldn't install with 9.1 one for me |
00:41.03 | MysticalOS | time to start deleting my 3 star music i just know 300MB free space is not gonna be enough |
00:42.41 | NivFreak | I only sync a portion of my music |
00:45.06 | MysticalOS | same, but i gotta reduce that portion, i only have a 16G phone |
00:46.04 | NivFreak | ah, yea I have a 32G |
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00:48.04 | MysticalOS | 16g was highest when i got mine, it's 2nd gen, so no multi tasking on OS 4 :\ |
00:48.15 | NivFreak | ah |
00:48.16 | NivFreak | ouch |
00:48.31 | NivFreak | I'll pick up a new one on release day, my wife can have my 3GS |
00:49.05 | MysticalOS | ha |
00:49.18 | NivFreak | she has my old 3G |
00:49.26 | MysticalOS | "i love you so much you get my hand me down" |
00:49.51 | Shefki | lol "AddOns aren't software because they aren't compiled" |
00:50.07 | Shefki | What a ludicriously narrow definition of software. |
00:50.19 | Shefki | And the best part is that Lua IS compiled. |
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01:07.56 | arkanes | boo-hiss at browser detection that fails at safari 5 |
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01:12.20 | Arrowmaster | <arkanes> boo-hiss at browser detection |
01:12.21 | Arrowmaster | fixed |
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01:30.10 | MysticalOS | my slow connection fails, like 45min to download 350 megs :( |
01:30.54 | MysticalOS | iphone os 4 is only about 300MB +itunes 9.2about 60M |
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01:54.00 | MysticalOS | :o freenode spam |
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02:08.56 | Hjalte | FREE Remote Auction House app on Android⢠Market* |
02:09.03 | Antiarc | Official? |
02:09.05 | Hjalte | *accessible via your Android device |
02:09.07 | Hjalte | Yes |
02:09.11 | Hjalte | http://www.wowarmory.com/wow-remote.xml |
02:09.12 | Antiarc | Nice, grabbing that now |
02:09.29 | Hjalte | Not sure it's up yet, but that's what the website says |
02:09.41 | Antiarc | I'm installing it now |
02:11.11 | Antiarc | Hahahah |
02:11.15 | Antiarc | It makes the AH "ding" when you open it |
02:11.55 | Antiarc | This is a very nice app. |
02:11.56 | Antiarc | Very fast. |
02:13.20 | pompy | If someone gets a piece of loot in the raid (a normal way), and then ninja logs, could the raid leader like petition a gm and have him strip the gear that that one guy got, away from him? |
02:13.23 | Primer | is this supposed to be available via the android market? |
02:13.37 | Antiarc | Primer: It is, I searched for "remote", first hit |
02:13.44 | Primer | oh, there it is! |
02:13.48 | Primer | I just had to scroll down more |
02:14.06 | Antiarc | pompy: GMs won't fix ninjas unless the ML ninjaed something after giving people a chance to roll or whatnot |
02:14.16 | Primer | I just wonder how well google filters for scam apps |
02:14.18 | Antiarc | If it was just group loot, sorry, better luck next time, set it on ML |
02:14.37 | Antiarc | Primer: They don't, they rely on the community to do so, but apps are signed with a developer's public key before being distributed |
02:15.01 | Primer | well, this one belongs to "Blizzard Entertainment, Inc." |
02:15.15 | Primer | would just hate to login to the game to see all my toons deleted... |
02:15.19 | Primer | all because of this |
02:15.43 | Antiarc | Click the dev name, you'll see their other apps |
02:15.48 | Antiarc | The only other app is their authenticator app :) |
02:17.16 | Primer | Some idiot posted to my addon page saying that if there was Localization, he'd translate to French... |
02:17.34 | Primer | guess some people presume that if localization isn't setup via wowace, it doesn't exist... |
02:19.26 | Groktar | so i'm going to have dishnetowrk at my new apartment |
02:19.41 | Groktar | idk if comcast will have issues with cable because of that |
02:19.53 | Groktar | since dishnetwork might use existing lines |
02:20.15 | Groktar | so i have dishnetwork coming on the 12th, comcast on the 15th, and then uverse on the 16th in case comcast can't do their thing |
02:33.07 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, you know hudmap is printing "hud" to chat at load right? :) |
02:33.17 | Antiarc | Yup, just about to fix that. |
02:33.25 | Funkeh` | okay |
02:33.33 | Funkeh` | im just trying it out and noticed that |
02:34.02 | Funkeh` | why do some of the symbols randomly spin on a 360 axis over and over? |
02:34.58 | Funkeh` | makes me feel a bit sick :P |
02:36.39 | Antiarc | That's a bug, too. frame:StopAnimating() seems to not do anything sometimes. |
02:37.04 | Antiarc | (The blizzard animation system is very robust!) |
02:37.04 | Repo | 10hudmap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.1.4-26-gb2a48de / (5 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits] |
02:37.07 | Repo | b2a48de: Use a more accurate method to getthe dungeon size |
02:37.19 | Repo | 31e139e: Jaraxxus fix, add option to toggle all malleable goo spots when Putricide casts Goo on 25-man |
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02:40.50 | kagaro | Antiarc: my new libmapdata has all the dungeon sizes in it with a simple api to get the size |
02:41.01 | Antiarc | Is that from the MPQs? |
02:41.05 | kagaro | yes |
02:41.10 | Antiarc | I'll probably pull that, rather than handling it myself then |
02:41.15 | Antiarc | One less thing to maintain! |
02:41.23 | kagaro | and it handle the dunegon floors as well |
02:41.37 | Antiarc | Manages Ulduar/Stratholme/Lich King's platform? |
02:41.43 | kagaro | yes |
02:41.54 | MysticalOS | doesn't lich kings plateform still fail once you transitoin? |
02:42.26 | kagaro | the size doesnt change, but you lose x,y during the transitions i think |
02:42.56 | MysticalOS | you lose x,y any time the ice isn't there, which means it doesn't work during phase 2 and phase 3 |
02:42.56 | Antiarc | Why do you include LibStub with it? |
02:43.02 | MysticalOS | so defile is useless |
02:43.15 | kagaro | i thought i marked it as an optdep |
02:43.15 | MysticalOS | it'd work in phase 1, and transitions only |
02:43.23 | Antiarc | It's packaged in the zip |
02:43.34 | kagaro | pul it as an external |
02:43.38 | Antiarc | Ah, okay |
02:43.40 | kagaro | in the package manager |
02:44.43 | Antiarc | It includes the TOC, too, dunno if that's intentional |
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02:45.13 | Antiarc | I usually structure libs as /x.TOC, /x/lib.lua, so I can embed svn://repo/x and just get the lib file |
02:47.48 | Antiarc | Would be super handy if you provided callbacks I could register for, too |
02:48.05 | kagaro | make a ticket on what callbacks you need |
02:48.10 | Antiarc | So I could just register for a MapDataChanged callback or something, rather than having to do all my own ZONE_CHANGED handling, etc |
02:48.11 | Antiarc | Will do |
02:48.13 | kagaro | and ill add them in |
02:48.40 | kagaro | i put an api page up as well |
02:49.01 | Antiarc | Something to watch out for |
02:49.23 | Antiarc | GetPlayerMapPosition and GetMapInfo don't return the right data if the current world map zone isn't the zone you're in |
02:49.30 | Antiarc | It's a bucket of trouble |
02:49.32 | kagaro | yeah i know |
02:49.35 | Antiarc | kk |
02:49.55 | kagaro | as of right now, it was dependant on the calling mod to setup the zoom properly and pass the correct mapfile or currentAreaId in |
02:50.24 | kagaro | adding in callbacks i need to handle those |
02:51.09 | kagaro | i even added in ruby sanctum data into the dataset fromt he PTR mpq files |
02:54.02 | Antiarc | What'd be awesome is if it were to handle all the zone change events itself, and then fire callbacks when they happen |
02:54.14 | kagaro | ya i could do that |
02:54.24 | Antiarc | So I don't even have to bother with all those shenanigans, I jus request coords once on startup, and then register a callback for when they update |
02:54.26 | kagaro | ill put it on my list for tommarrow |
02:54.28 | Antiarc | I'll spec it out once I have a bit |
02:54.30 | Antiarc | Raid's starting |
02:54.37 | kagaro | k |
02:54.44 | kagaro | yeah mine just finished, im off to bed |
02:55.18 | Antiarc | I like what I see though |
02:55.50 | kagaro | i need to convert over gathermate for it, so 1 less spot to mess with when new data arrives |
02:56.35 | MysticalOS | old world is gonna be fun for gathermate, i hope wowhead purges all the nodes so you don't have to try and filter them |
02:56.40 | MysticalOS | in cata |
02:56.42 | kagaro | yeah really |
02:56.50 | MysticalOS | EPL is bad enough |
02:56.55 | MysticalOS | full of invalid nodes on wowhead |
02:56.56 | kagaro | they reset the db once wrath came out i thought |
02:57.00 | kagaro | guess not |
02:57.25 | kagaro | i need to figure out a good exclusion method for my ruby generator script to ignore those nodes |
02:57.31 | kagaro | just didnt get around to it |
02:58.42 | kagaro | wowdb just stopped getting updated period |
02:59.16 | Torhal | Curse sites launch with a bunch of fanfaire and then almost immediately die due to neglect |
02:59.41 | kagaro | tbh wowdb was easier to process the data |
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03:07.25 | MysticalOS | i have someone testing my 5 pass scan trap thing right now. looks like it may need more tweaks :( maybe .01 .03 .05 .07 .1 |
03:07.46 | MysticalOS | sucks that my guild didn't even pull HLK this week do to attendance :( |
03:07.52 | MysticalOS | summer bites |
03:07.56 | kagaro | yes it does |
03:08.15 | kagaro | we had to have on of our dps spec prot tonight to even get tries in |
03:08.32 | kagaro | not that it was a good choice |
03:09.29 | Primer | figured there'd be more people during the summer |
03:09.53 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, you can use SetMapToCurrentZone() to force the map to update fyi |
03:10.11 | MysticalOS | lol my guild has 2 warrior main tanks, we have a DK go tank and me go dps, since blizz kinda screwed over warriors for LK tanking |
03:11.05 | MysticalOS | don't have 80K hp like the druids, or AD/will of necro to make 65k work better for you. warriors just get insta gibbed if you even take a 13k melee swing and soulreaper at same time :( |
03:11.31 | Funkeh` | patience my young padawan, it will all tunr out ok |
03:11.38 | Funkeh` | turn* |
03:11.41 | Primer | I still haven't downed LK in 10 man normal :/ |
03:12.03 | MysticalOS | yeah, 30% buff to even survive without 8 people rolling CDs on ya? heh |
03:12.49 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Yeah, I know, it's just sort of a mess to work out all the various conditions |
03:12.51 | Primer | I tanked the adds for a few attempts last night |
03:12.58 | MysticalOS | warriors are pro add tanks |
03:13.02 | Funkeh` | i bet :/ |
03:13.05 | MysticalOS | so are paladins, DK and druid really the best for LK himself |
03:13.05 | Primer | I did my job...but others didn't do theirs |
03:13.16 | MysticalOS | he just ass fucks a warrior |
03:14.26 | Funkeh` | Arthas, queen of the undead |
03:15.56 | Antiarc | MysticalOS: We use a warrior tank in 25, paladin tank in 10 |
03:16.06 | Primer | very odd that one of my addons has generated my exactly 0 developer points...and two of my deprecated addons still generate points for me |
03:16.19 | Primer | s/my/me/ |
03:16.26 | Primer | hehe pirate! |
03:16.31 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/addons/bad-boy/tickets/13-badboy-wont-leave/ |
03:16.34 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
03:16.55 | Antiarc | ROFL |
03:16.58 | Antiarc | Amazing. |
03:17.32 | Funkeh` | indeed |
03:19.08 | MysticalOS | finally got ios 4.0 installed |
03:19.42 | Primer | cisco ios...? |
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03:19.47 | Funkeh` | iphone |
03:20.11 | Primer | Does apple actually call it that? |
03:20.16 | MysticalOS | they do now |
03:20.34 | Funkeh` | It's probably iOS |
03:21.43 | Funkeh` | As much as I'd love an iPhone, I hate the amount of bloat you need to install, such as bonjour |
03:21.50 | Shefki | Incoming Cisco lawsuit. |
03:21.51 | Funkeh` | I'm more eager to try Symbian 3 actually |
03:21.53 | Primer | oui |
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03:22.51 | MysticalOS | Funky, I installed badboy, but my ex can still whisper me, why? should i create a ticket? ;) |
03:23.24 | Funkeh` | Yes, name it "ex won't leave" and inject it into brain 1.0 |
03:23.40 | Funkeh` | "I've tried to remove her but still there" |
03:24.00 | Funkeh` | Try elevated priviledges |
03:24.56 | Funkeh` | I wonder how many kids will be heartbroken when the girls they e-stalk won't accept their bnet invitation |
03:25.16 | Primer | I suppose I should setup localization via wowace for my projects... |
03:25.28 | Primer | guess that'd make it easier for people to translate |
03:25.29 | Nechckn | You do mean "girls", right, Funkeh`? |
03:25.32 | Funkeh` | "Do I want this guy tracking me no matter what alt or game I'm on hmmm.." |
03:25.33 | MysticalOS | i'll just be glad i can slim down list, those friends who have like 10 alts and all |
03:25.44 | MysticalOS | replacing 10 with one bnet realid will be nice |
03:25.56 | Funkeh` | My girlfriend has 3 accounts... |
03:26.03 | Funkeh` | like, practically all full |
03:26.16 | Funkeh` | my friendlist is 90% he fucking alts |
03:26.20 | Funkeh` | h |
03:26.36 | Funkeh` | So hopefully I can remove them all and just have the bnet account |
03:26.43 | Funkeh` | or 3, probably |
03:26.46 | Brybry | Funkeh` is obviously dating a gold farmer |
03:27.02 | MysticalOS | bry where do you think he gets all the new whisprs from? |
03:27.10 | Funkeh` | she was a tripple boxer when I met her haha |
03:27.13 | Brybry | good point |
03:27.26 | Funkeh` | lol MysticalOS |
03:27.42 | Funkeh` | The secret to keeping a healthy spam database! |
03:28.01 | Torhal | Primer: Your old and deprecated AddOns still have a decent premium CC install-base, apparently. |
03:28.10 | Torhal | Hell, Threat-2.0 still gets points. |
03:28.23 | Torhal | That lib was deprecated and obsoleted by Wrath |
03:28.42 | MysticalOS | gotta factor in private servers running 2.4.3 |
03:29.13 | MysticalOS | i still get boss mod requests to fix bugs in depreciated BC boss mods writen for wow 2.x |
03:29.49 | MysticalOS | sigh, now i gotta wait for 13 gigs of music to sync |
03:30.04 | WobWork | Primer: I'm still generating developer points for stuff I haven't updated in over a year |
03:30.12 | Funkeh` | fun |
03:30.32 | Funkeh` | These days I mainly listen to music when I'm at the PC so spotify is win |
03:30.39 | Starinnia | I'm half way through 50 GB of music atm |
03:31.20 | MysticalOS | ipod 64? |
03:31.21 | Funkeh` | I still have my 32gb music usb drive but I've "deprecated" it |
03:32.01 | Antiarc | Threat-2.0 still getting points amuses me |
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03:44.22 | MysticalOS | yay jaraxxus fix, no more HUGE screen covering raid icon :) |
03:44.34 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r533 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
03:44.46 | Funkeh` | she just woke up and gave me that one |
03:45.04 | Funkeh` | and what? |
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03:45.51 | MysticalOS | i was talking to antiarc for that one. was an amusing bug :) |
03:46.06 | Funkeh` | ah |
03:46.43 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, are you nabbing main tanks from the blizz MT list? I think I saw a MA listed as a MT |
03:48.06 | Funkeh` | As in we had a fury warrior on the blizz MA list and he was a shield in hudmap |
03:49.42 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.3.0.3 * r534 : Tagging as v4.3.0.3 |
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04:27.43 | Funkeh` | if you know what I mean Antiarc ;) |
04:39.58 | MysticalOS | i'm about to just remove shadow trap stuff completely. no matter what i do i just can't get accuracy acceptable enough. i'd rathor have no support for shadow traps than a boss mod tell you it's on wrong person. that causes more wipes than not getting a warning at all :( |
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04:46.20 | Shirik | yall and your technology |
04:46.29 | Shirik | back in my day we had this thing called "ventrilo" |
04:46.38 | Shirik | and we actually communicated important details over it |
04:46.39 | Antiarc | Vent's too laggy! |
04:46.44 | Antiarc | 500ms audio buffer + latency |
04:46.46 | Shirik | OMG 30 MILLISECONDS |
04:46.57 | Antiarc | 30ms ping on both ends means 560ms end-to-end |
04:47.11 | Antiarc | Well, no, that's not true |
04:47.14 | Antiarc | It's 1060ms |
04:47.24 | Antiarc | No, wait, 560 |
04:51.36 | Antiarc | 200ms ping on both ends is nearly a full second of latency which isn't enough for defile, etc :P |
04:53.06 | MysticalOS | i just wish blizz would announce the target, i'd be happy with a raid boss emote big yellow text warning. would fix so many problems, for defile and shadow trap |
04:54.14 | MysticalOS | honestly i don't even think lich king would be killable without a boss mod detecting defile there is no whisper, emote, or even graphical warning at all when it's cast on someone. if it weren't for target scanning you wouldn'te ven know it was on you until you were standing in it. |
05:00.05 | Aens|Superiority | there is a cast bar |
05:00.09 | Aens|Superiority | thats your cue to move |
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05:13.55 | Antiarc | Picks target, 2 sec cast, defile dropped |
05:27.16 | NivFreak | MysticalOS: we find that the best way to deal with defile is still to /focus LK and watch the target switch |
05:27.52 | NivFreak | it's nice to have timers to queue you to watch though : |
05:27.54 | NivFreak | :) |
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05:30.51 | MysticalOS | well defile is none issue really anyways. I more or less hate how fast the target switch is for shadow trap being a .5 second cast |
05:31.10 | MysticalOS | grabbing right target takes such precise timing. I think i may FINALLY have it |
05:31.33 | MysticalOS | a CPU wasting 10 pass scan |
05:31.37 | NivFreak | for defile I had to watch for the cast event, and then wait for a target update |
05:32.17 | MysticalOS | i know unit_target is a better way of doing it. But when you don't get event unless he is on target/focus, i still wanted a better method for healers. |
05:32.42 | NivFreak | yea, i keep him /focus'd ;) |
05:33.25 | MysticalOS | i have someone testing my cpu wasting hack right now, he says it's finally working after 8 commits of screwing with it, poor guinee pig |
05:34.44 | MysticalOS | scan for active tank using SWING_DAMAGE and SWIMG_MISS, store tank, when he casts shadow trap, scan his target 10 times, if it returns any target that's not tank, cancel scans and post it. if out of 10 scans you could get nothing but tank, then assume it has to be right. |
05:35.25 | MysticalOS | it's stupidly inefficent but it doesn't require focus and that's what i wanted |
05:37.26 | NivFreak | well why not just scan for someone targeting LK, and wait for a ToT update? |
05:37.35 | NivFreak | and skip the tank detection |
05:37.44 | NivFreak | I target other shit a lot on that fight, but to be fair not much in p1 |
05:38.29 | MysticalOS | heh thinka bout the pooor disc priest |
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05:39.01 | NivFreak | ? |
05:39.25 | MysticalOS | your comment about not targeting much in phase 1 :P |
05:39.49 | NivFreak | I sure hope your disc priest isn't retargetting to bubble :P |
05:40.06 | MysticalOS | not targeting, just mad clicking i'm sure |
05:40.29 | MysticalOS | i imagine a lot of tunnel vision with that. i don't envy that job |
05:41.11 | NivFreak | like most healing :P |
05:41.24 | MysticalOS | i have several chars, none are a healer |
05:41.29 | MysticalOS | it will stay this way |
05:41.43 | NivFreak | healing is fun, you just have to get past the bar trance you get early on |
05:42.13 | MysticalOS | i like tanking, cause of how efficent it is when you aren't raiding |
05:42.41 | MysticalOS | like 80 to 85, my tank is gonna solo probably every group quest up to 85 in top tier tank gear i'm sure |
05:42.56 | MysticalOS | i doubt a healer or dps will do that really, cept maybe a paladin cause they are just OP regardless of what they are heh |
05:43.14 | NivFreak | I've leveled prot since TBC hit |
05:43.21 | NivFreak | TBC was painful as shit |
05:43.34 | NivFreak | wrath was better prot than fury |
05:43.50 | NivFreak | I'm sure I'll level in cata as prot again |
05:43.51 | MysticalOS | well prot in TBC had utter crap for damage and efficenty |
05:43.55 | MysticalOS | you just coudln't kill anything |
05:44.01 | MysticalOS | wraith was definitely an improvement |
05:44.18 | NivFreak | I used to do netherwing dailies as prot |
05:44.27 | NivFreak | and even post devastate buff, it was painful |
05:44.54 | MysticalOS | i did those arms, and rapid respawns did kill me more than i liked when they happened at a bad time |
05:45.11 | MysticalOS | i eventually did get a daily partner to smooth that annoyance out |
05:46.30 | Nechckn | 80-85 they really should have tuned "group" quests to at least 3, just to cut down on the ultra fast maxing of 2 and 3 - then move the bar down after a few months. |
05:47.21 | MysticalOS | questing is gonna be tuned for people in ilvl 200 |
05:47.34 | MysticalOS | so eroic 277 is gonna stomp them |
05:47.36 | MysticalOS | heroic* |
05:48.00 | MysticalOS | the ilvl inflation will make it more of a joke than wraith levleing was i'm sure |
05:48.45 | MysticalOS | wraith was tuned around dungeon blue/maybe a kara epic when starting in northrend leveling, ilvl 110ish, T9 gear only put you 30-40 ivlls aboev that, vs the 77 ilvls you will be above blues this time |
05:48.58 | MysticalOS | T6* |
05:49.02 | Nechckn | which is sad, imnsho... is that not like half of the point of an expansion, to make the leveling somewhat rewarding, rather than insta-max level... Realize much of the focus is on the lowbie areas, but still. |
05:49.22 | NivFreak | meh |
05:49.25 | NivFreak | leveling is for alts |
05:49.31 | MysticalOS | yeah, but it's a no win situation, they can't tune it for your epics and have casuals get raped |
05:49.57 | NivFreak | they just have to inflate combat ratings quickly |
05:50.10 | Arrowmaster | ilvl 169 or 174 was the max in TBC right? and those were only main hand weapons |
05:50.24 | MysticalOS | i know sunwell gear was 159 |
05:50.27 | Nechckn | But for the actual group quests ala vanilla, where you really needed at least 2 to complete a few here and there, I thought that was interesting, at least. |
05:50.47 | MysticalOS | was there anything above 159 besides bow? |
05:51.07 | NivFreak | I'm trying to remember what my KJ mace was on my priest |
05:51.13 | NivFreak | I thought it was 154, but not sure |
05:51.31 | Arrowmaster | the weapons where the highest i remember that |
05:51.54 | MysticalOS | k he had 164 ilvl stuff |
05:52.18 | MysticalOS | i don't see anything over 164 |
05:52.19 | NivFreak | 164 |
05:52.25 | NivFreak | yea |
05:52.29 | MysticalOS | even thor was 164 |
05:52.37 | NivFreak | but legendary |
05:52.49 | MysticalOS | yeah, so statwise 177 epic |
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05:54.32 | MysticalOS | kara was 110-115, so the ilvl inflation only went up about 50, really 40 if they didn't have to make a 2.4 content patch from delays in first place..13ilvl was the usual tier increase. heroic messed that up |
05:54.35 | MysticalOS | but cata will fix it |
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06:00.33 | Shefki | MysticalOS: And bring a whole new sset of stupid things. |
06:01.19 | Shefki | After 100 expansions maybe they'll know all the stupid things they shouldn't do. |
06:01.41 | MysticalOS | someone is always going to be unhappy. that war can never be won |
06:02.12 | starlon | Anyone know if Blizz is giving addon developers beta keys this round? |
06:02.23 | Shefki | Probably. |
06:02.39 | starlon | nods. |
06:02.39 | starlon | k |
06:02.54 | Shefki | Really no reason for them not to. |
06:03.01 | starlon | Yeah |
06:04.52 | MysticalOS | i know my GM already submited his little essay |
06:05.01 | starlon | heh |
06:05.10 | starlon | Our guild was discussing that tonight. |
06:05.22 | starlon | I didn't even know beta was out. |
06:05.46 | Shefki | It isn't. |
06:05.48 | MysticalOS | its not, yet, but it think it'll start soon. |
06:06.03 | starlon | Someone was saying he's on it. |
06:06.08 | MysticalOS | when it's out mmo will unlock all their crap they had to hide |
06:06.13 | Shefki | They might be on F&F Alpha. |
06:06.19 | Shefki | But they're probably lying to you. |
06:06.21 | starlon | He said beta. |
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06:06.32 | starlon | Maybe he doesn't know the difference between alpha and beta. |
06:06.50 | starlon | He said he got the key from a friend who works for Blizz. |
06:06.57 | Shefki | That's the Alpha. |
06:07.01 | starlon | k |
06:07.05 | MysticalOS | probably not. "beta" to some just means try before it's out. the actual stage concept is beyond them |
06:07.13 | Shefki | For what it's worth it says beta on the battle.net site if you're in the alpha. |
06:07.14 | starlon | nods. |
06:07.19 | starlon | That's probly it. |
06:07.20 | Shefki | They didn't bother to make an Alpha graphic for it. |
06:07.32 | starlon | heh funny |
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06:26.46 | NivFreak | Shefki: it's called F&F beta by blizzard |
06:27.01 | NivFreak | (this time) |
06:27.17 | NivFreak | but certainly the quality is alpha |
06:27.20 | starlon | F&F? |
06:27.45 | starlon | fairy fire? |
06:27.51 | NivFreak | friends and family |
06:27.54 | starlon | ah |
06:27.59 | NivFreak | direct invites to people, no keys involved |
06:28.05 | starlon | k |
06:28.09 | starlon | makes sense |
06:28.16 | NivFreak | I'd imagine beta is starting very soon |
06:28.34 | NivFreak | SC2 is done, 3.3.5 should be live soon |
06:28.37 | starlon | I figured it would start shortly after the next content release. They're still planning that right? |
06:28.54 | NivFreak | they have a press event this week for cata iirc too |
06:30.33 | NivFreak | hrmm |
06:30.37 | NivFreak | looks like it's next monday |
06:30.41 | NivFreak | I thought it was the 9th |
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06:47.19 | steev | rofl |
06:47.27 | steev | i just got a terrible phish email |
06:47.51 | steev | You logined your account successfully at 3:14 on May 30th form the 203.99.116.* IP range. According to the report of many players, we found that the account published spam information in the game which harassed other users seriously. |
06:48.16 | steev | seriously? logined? |
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07:07.53 | Primer | you got hacked, steev? |
07:08.27 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
07:10.18 | Primer | oh, email |
07:10.24 | Primer | wtf, I get like 5-6 of those daily |
07:10.38 | Primer | I blame curse.com |
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07:12.50 | Primer | I don't actually see them, as they end up in the spam folder |
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07:29.47 | purl | ~pong |
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08:08.24 | jnwhiteh | Did anyone here get any tax forms from Curse last year as a result of redeeming over 12000 rewards points? I'm trying to figure out which form gets sent and how the money that's listed on it is classed. If you have any ideas, please let me know =) |
08:09.36 | Primer | I wish |
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08:16.21 | Elkano | jnwhiteh, as us citicen? |
08:20.25 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: I am a US citizen, yes. |
08:20.35 | jnwhiteh | but I don't like in the U.S. but that's not relevant :P |
08:20.49 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.5.0 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
08:20.50 | Repo | 2660e7a: - Preparations for 2.5.0 release |
08:20.55 | Repo | f88961b: - Added locale to debug reports |
08:20.57 | Repo | 4bad1a3: - Probably fixed a rare error when MUFs are disabled |
08:21.03 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.5.0 * 4732aa6 /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.5.0 |
08:21.29 | Elkano | I wonder who else has similar point gain... those I know of are non-us |
08:21.58 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc is the only one I thought of |
08:22.02 | jnwhiteh | that and ckknight |
08:22.09 | Arrowmaster | *cough* |
08:22.17 | jnwhiteh | but I'm not sure if he participates, given that he works for them |
08:22.51 | krka | live in or like it in? |
08:23.10 | Arrowmaster | but i didnt redeem enough last yeah although i certainly was over the limit on dec 31st |
08:23.20 | Arrowmaster | s/yeah/year/ |
08:23.51 | Antiarc | Hm? |
08:24.04 | jnwhiteh | yeah, the way it landed for me is I didn't redeem 10k until after the 1st of the year, and I've got another 15k sitting there. |
08:24.23 | Arrowmaster | wow you dont get that much points |
08:24.27 | jnwhiteh | My tax situation is a bit.. odd.. so I'm just trying to figure out how if/how/why they report the income |
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08:25.49 | jnwhiteh | I basically need to know if I need to pay the 15% self-employment tax on it |
08:25.55 | jnwhiteh | and that depends on how it's classed |
08:26.01 | jnwhiteh | but I suppose I can sort that all out later. |
08:26.06 | jnwhiteh | I'm off to the office, bai! |
08:26.20 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was considered a 'gift' or 'prize' |
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08:26.50 | jnwhiteh | by definition it should be some sort of royalty or revenue, but that depends on what their tax laywers have done =) |
08:27.16 | jnwhiteh | no worries, I'll poke at Kaelten later and see if he can dig it up for me. |
08:27.19 | jnwhiteh | thanks! |
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08:47.59 | Shefki | ckknight does participate in the points. At least we split points on stuff. So I'm assuming he's redeming them. |
08:48.19 | jnwhiteh | k, I'll ask him then. |
08:49.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah if hes not redeeming them i would be angry that hes not giving me a bigger cut |
08:49.33 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
08:50.00 | Arrowmaster | SON OF A BITCH |
08:50.16 | Arrowmaster | the fucker has 318098 fucking points |
08:50.38 | jnwhiteh | that's 15k USD |
08:50.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> 318098/10000*500 |
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08:50.52 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 15904.9 |
08:50.58 | Arrowmaster | ........ |
08:51.25 | jnwhiteh | I've earned.. 5% of that, if that =) |
08:51.34 | jnwhiteh | Not that I rely on it at all |
08:51.39 | jnwhiteh | just helps when I want to fly home and such |
08:51.55 | Arrowmaster | ive earned 64663 i think |
08:54.21 | jnwhiteh | I can't even estimate how much LightHeaded would earn me daily |
08:54.29 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure what kind of an installbase it could be compared to |
08:57.11 | jnwhiteh | well if he wants to get rid of it, I'm happy to provide sexual favours in 'reward' |
08:57.43 | krka | O_o |
08:59.11 | Arrowmaster | you dont want to know how much self restraint it is taking to keep for going and editing the points distributions on a few projects right now |
09:01.43 | jnwhiteh | heh |
09:01.44 | Arrowmaster | is depressed about finally graduating yet still being unemployed, and having no possible job prospects, and also the realization of getting older due to upcoming birthday |
09:01.52 | jnwhiteh | no, I understand =( |
09:01.58 | jnwhiteh | I've definitely been there. |
09:04.02 | Arrowmaster | youve been two days away from turning 24 after finally getting an associate degree (hopefully, grades still not posted) while having absolutely no idea where to find a job at that you could actually stand to work at without ending up doing something that would get you sued or arrested? |
09:04.27 | jnwhiteh | not precisely, but yes, I have. |
09:04.33 | jnwhiteh | *hugs* |
09:06.58 | Arrowmaster | hates birthdays |
09:08.39 | Arrowmaster | also hates NewYears for the same reason |
09:09.14 | Arrowmaster | hates getting subjected to them every 6 months |
09:09.47 | DJJeff | whats your reason? |
09:14.53 | Arrowmaster | i hate being reminded im getting older |
09:15.43 | krka | you're younger than me, and you probably always will be! |
09:17.55 | Arrowmaster | you miss the point |
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09:30.16 | [Ammo] | jnwhiteh: I sent in my W-8BEN (dutch here) |
09:30.22 | [Ammo] | for redeeming over 12k points |
09:30.24 | jnwhiteh | [Ammo]: *nod* |
09:30.38 | [Ammo] | and my accountant handles the rest :) |
09:30.41 | Primer | dammit, I want 12k points |
09:30.42 | jnwhiteh | I need to know if any US citizens GOT a 1099-MISC or anything from the IRS/Curse. |
09:30.51 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
09:31.20 | [Ammo] | I just told my accountant, hey these guys want me to send in this form, can you handle whatever fallout comes my way :p |
09:31.40 | [Ammo] | so far it's all peachy |
09:31.46 | jnwhiteh | well you're not a U.S. Citizen |
09:31.50 | jnwhiteh | so it won't matter in the least |
09:31.51 | [Ammo] | and next month I'm buying a car from all the paypal transfers :) |
09:32.14 | [Ammo] | not a new one, but not a really old one either |
09:32.21 | Primer | current points: 1880 |
09:32.35 | Primer | and one of my addon with downloads doesn't accrue any |
09:32.37 | Arrowmaster | goes back to plotting to steal ckknights 318098 points |
09:33.27 | [Ammo] | I've earned 77481 |
09:34.13 | [Ammo] | finally killed the bloody LK last week, and this week 7/12 HC modes done |
09:34.14 | Primer | nice |
09:34.24 | [Ammo] | wondering why the fuck we were stuck on LK so long |
09:35.11 | Stan_ | have fun being stuck on hardmode lk then :p |
09:35.55 | [Ammo] | yeah |
09:36.01 | [Ammo] | we'll do the other hardmodes first |
09:36.05 | [Ammo] | oneshot BQL hardmode |
09:36.07 | [Ammo] | first ever attempt |
09:36.29 | [Ammo] | VDW took 3 wipes due to some healers in th eportal being greedy |
09:37.12 | Stan_ | the only annoying hardmodes are prof and sindra :/ |
09:37.39 | Stan_ | I so hate sindragosa |
09:37.42 | Stan_ | as a caster |
09:37.48 | [Ammo] | we still need to do euhm, deathwhisper, saurfang, prof, sindra, LK |
09:38.28 | Stan_ | first two are not that hard anymore with the 20% buff |
09:38.45 | [Ammo] | I think we didn't do too many attempts on em just boosted them normal to unlock the other hardmodes |
09:38.49 | [Ammo] | for this week |
09:38.53 | [Ammo] | they will go down tomorrow |
09:39.20 | [Ammo] | we only have 2-3 nights of raiding so need to get as many done as p0ossible |
09:40.41 | Stan_ | ah :) |
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10:14.11 | [Ammo] | anyone know if UNIT_AURA fires for the boss1 unit? |
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12:43.58 | kagaro|sleeping | jnwhiteh: you get a normal tax form, as If you were a contractor to curse I think it was a W9 |
12:44.10 | jnwhiteh | a W9 is what you send them =) |
12:44.18 | jnwhiteh | I need to know which form it is specifically and how the money is classed :p |
12:44.24 | kagaro|sleeping | er 1099 |
12:44.25 | jnwhiteh | I suspect its a 1099-Misc |
12:44.40 | kagaro|sleeping | yeah it was weird on my taxes as well |
12:45.01 | kagaro|sleeping | gimme a min ill go pull the form out of my files |
12:45.36 | jnwhiteh | thanks, appreciate it |
12:47.27 | kagaro|sleeping | yes it is a 1099-misc |
12:48.13 | jnwhiteh | what box is the income classed as? |
12:48.26 | kagaro | 1 sec .. rofl i left it downstairs |
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12:49.56 | kagaro | nonemployee compensation |
12:50.11 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
12:50.19 | jnwhiteh | dont think that requires self-employment tax |
12:50.21 | jnwhiteh | but not sure |
12:50.45 | kagaro | doyou work as a self-employed contractor now? |
12:50.54 | jnwhiteh | for a number of things, yes./ |
12:51.07 | jnwhiteh | I have to pay self-employment tax on the advance from my book, for example |
12:51.10 | jnwhiteh | that's 15% off the top |
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12:51.43 | jnwhiteh | I just need to know how much to hold back so I can take care of it if that's the case, but I should be 100% exempt from income tax on this due to my situation :p |
12:51.45 | kagaro | but how is your book income classified? as royalties |
12:51.52 | jnwhiteh | yes |
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12:51.58 | jnwhiteh | which you have to pay SE tax on |
12:52.08 | jnwhiteh | NE-contrib should be fine |
12:52.17 | jnwhiteh | its just income, not for services rendered |
12:52.22 | kagaro | when i did my taxes, it was added to my gross income for taxing pruposes |
12:52.27 | jnwhiteh | yep |
12:52.40 | jnwhiteh | which means I won't owe a dime on it =) |
12:53.00 | kagaro | I did, but after all other adjustments i got money back |
12:53.43 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I don't pay any taxes because I don't have jobs |
12:53.48 | jnwhiteh | so I never get anything back |
12:53.54 | kagaro | mine is gona be so messed up this year |
12:53.59 | jnwhiteh | thanks for the help,. I really appreciate it |
12:54.02 | jnwhiteh | mine is always fucked |
12:54.12 | jnwhiteh | I have to file a 2555 to exempt myself from all foreign earned income |
12:54.15 | jnwhiteh | which means.. get this |
12:54.29 | jnwhiteh | I have to include it in my overall income, and then put parenthesis around it and magically subtract it. |
12:54.32 | jnwhiteh | such an advanced system =) |
12:54.38 | kagaro | my employer went bankrupt in janso last pay i got from them was jan31, then 2 months unemployed, atm i working as a contractor to nasa for 6 months |
12:55.04 | jnwhiteh | I got screwed hardcore in 2007 |
12:55.09 | jnwhiteh | worked until June |
12:55.12 | jnwhiteh | got advance for the book |
12:55.23 | jnwhiteh | then got 2 payments of my stipend for graduate school |
12:55.31 | jnwhiteh | all taxable, pushed me into a super high bracket |
12:55.45 | jnwhiteh | I got it all back in the end, once I would exclude the stipend.. but I had to be out 2.5k for a year |
12:56.29 | kagaro | and right now im workng with my old boss on founding a startup .. so my taxes are gona be so weird |
12:56.53 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
13:01.54 | sylvanaar_atwork | SE tax bites |
13:01.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | its painful |
13:03.34 | jnwhiteh | yep. |
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14:45.15 | Axodious | i'm not keeping up with the latest in mod development these days, has there been a decent replacement for power auras made? |
14:47.00 | Stan_ | no :( |
14:53.39 | sylvanaar_atwork | did power auras die? |
14:54.41 | Stan_ | sadly not |
15:00.55 | kagaro | Ackis ping |
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15:05.45 | Ackis | pong |
15:06.08 | Ackis | kagaro: pong |
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15:09.23 | Ackis | anyone in this chan play star trek online? |
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15:10.51 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=302258#post302258 |
15:10.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
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15:11.24 | sylvanaar_atwork | you dont need to read the post |
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15:38.29 | Repo | durcyn: http://www.wowace.com/addons/freak/. FREAK. Freaking geaR dEpendent Achievement checKer - Gear check for the Achievements 'A Tribute to Dedicated Insanity' and 'Herald o... |
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16:53.59 | Funkeh` | fucking steam |
16:54.04 | Funkeh` | up down up down up down |
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16:59.52 | pompy | Funkeh`: just today or for the past week? this is the first time ive seen "no connection" |
17:00.56 | Funkeh` | today |
17:01.08 | Funkeh` | it's up an down like 10 times now |
17:07.09 | pompy | Funkeh`: ahh, http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15330454#post15330454 |
17:07.59 | pompy | apparantely the client update they released yesterday didnt go to well |
17:09.20 | Funkeh` | client update has been fine for me |
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17:09.31 | Funkeh` | it's hours later the downtime started happening |
17:09.40 | Funkeh` | but yeah I read that post |
17:09.46 | Funkeh` | brief was quite an understatement |
17:09.50 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
17:11.25 | pompy | this is quite fun for CS:S, http://www.wcsazeroth.net/ |
17:13.26 | pompy | Funkeh`: it just connected me, hopefully it stays |
17:13.49 | pompy | spoke too soon |
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18:48.05 | steev | @project itemauditor |
18:48.06 | Repo | steev: http://www.wowace.com/addons/itemauditor/. ItemAuditor. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. AsaAyers (Manager/Author). Updated: 23 minutes ago. Tickets: 5/5 |
18:48.54 | steev | seems spiffy enough |
18:49.04 | steev | wish i had that when i got my legplates of painful death crafted |
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