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00:27.24Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 07master * 264e4d5 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Make the Totem module capable of showing party members' totem ranges, as well, on a per-totem basis
00:31.06p3limanyone here good with css?
00:31.21AntiarcYup
00:31.37p3limhow do I make a background transparent, without making the whole object?
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00:32.04AntiarcUse a png with an alpha channel
00:32.19AntiarcYou can't set CSS opacity on only a parent and not children
00:32.27p3limhm ok
00:32.31MoonWitchactually
00:32.35AntiarcStandard IE6 caveat applies
00:32.37MoonWitchthe png might cause issues in IE
00:32.41Antiarc^
00:32.47MoonWitchyou type faster
00:32.47p3limfuck IE
00:32.48MoonWitch:P
00:32.56MoonWitchgenerally a good approach ;)
00:33.00AntiarcYou have to use an alpha hack, or just decide you don't care about IE6
00:33.10AntiarcI've deprecated it. If Google doesn't support it, no reason I should.
00:33.15MoonWitchor get suicidal and use gif
00:33.28Antiarcgif doesn't have alpha channels though
00:33.39MoonWitchnope but allows for some transparency
00:33.44p3limSo, a background image with alpha channel is the only way?
00:33.46MoonWitch(note the some)
00:33.49MoonWitchyep
00:34.05Antiarcp3lim: Well, you could have a background div with css opacity, and a content div on top of it, both position: absolute with z-indexes
00:34.06AntiarcBut that's silly
00:34.13MoonWitchwhat are you trying to achieve?
00:34.34p3limbackground alpha without making all children transparent
00:34.47MoonWitchyes but is it curved? straight lines?
00:34.56p3limstraight
00:35.03MoonWitchpfft use css
00:35.27p3limsec
00:35.36p3limhttp://p3lim.tumblr.com/
00:35.42p3limthats what it looks like now :<
00:35.51MoonWitchyes
00:36.02MoonWitchand you want the pictures to not be transparent
00:36.19p3lim(don't mind the content, I basically use tumblr to link stuff to friends and play with css/js)
00:36.20AntiarcYeah, you want a translucent PNG
00:36.28AntiarcEither that or
00:36.32AntiarcYou fake the background
00:36.41AntiarcTake the wood BG, wash it out, use that as the content BG
00:36.49AntiarcIt won't match up perfectly but most people won't notice
00:36.56AntiarcThat'll degrade better but not look quite as good
00:37.14MoonWitchhe could put the content in a div
00:37.40AntiarcIf it's parented to the block with the opacity, it'll inherit the opacity
00:38.14p3limWhat if I set the opacity to 1 on the children?
00:38.18MoonWitchyeah but it should be able to be overwritten
00:38.23Antiarcopacity is multiplicative
00:38.33AntiarcSo parent is 0.5, child is set to 0.5, child's net opacity is 0.25
00:38.34AntiarcNot 0.5
00:38.44MoonWitchok
00:38.48MoonWitchset opacity to 2
00:38.53MoonWitchwould net to 1
00:38.54Antiarcdoesn't quite work that way :P
00:38.59MoonWitchI've never tried it
00:39.07MoonWitchso I am winging it ;)
00:39.25p3limnah, that wont work
00:39.47MoonWitch(just look at the source code of pandasecurity.com that's what I have to work on/with -- it's a cms written in 1998 and no it's NOT a damn joke)
00:39.48p3limyou'd have to remove the opacity first, and css doesnt allow the children to do so
00:39.56MoonWitchright
00:40.53MoonWitchevery picture is in its own div right?
00:41.13p3limexample, the widget api :SetAlpha() in wow works the same, if the parent alpha is set you cannot set the children to a higher alpha without un-parenting it
00:41.14MoonWitchdiv post
00:41.23p3limyes
00:41.31p3limwant to see the source?
00:41.36MoonWitchnice n clean css btw
00:41.41p3limthanks :)
00:41.42MoonWitchnaah just opened the source :)
00:42.06p3limit gets fucked over once the tumblr code kicks in (I think)
00:42.15p3limthe source is even cleaner
00:42.33MoonWitchtumblr code is added at the bottom
00:44.08MoonWitch(I honestly like the wooden see through aspect)
00:44.33MoonWitchwell unfortunately, the only option left then is to change the bg of the entire thing
00:44.43MoonWitchor lose the opacity
00:45.07MoonWitcheven a png bg would inherit opacity I believe
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00:45.24MoonWitchso even a pure white png bg would give you those results
00:45.26p3limhttps://gist.github.com/bb2c73c3dea19bc5cd64
00:46.15AntiarcA png bg would inherit opacity, but that's why I say to use a png at full opacity with an alpha channel
00:46.19p3limthe white color is temporary, gonna change it to black
00:46.25AntiarcYou get the alpha effect without causing any cascading inheritance issues
00:46.31MoonWitchyeah
00:46.37p3limI know Antiarc
00:46.42Antiarckk :)
00:46.51MoonWitchthere's gotta be a hack for that one :P
00:46.52p3limJust that I suck at paint/whatever
00:47.11MoonWitchit's unconceivable that p3lim is the first/only one to encounter this issue
00:47.21AntiarcThe hack is the png :P
00:47.26MoonWitchah
00:47.30AntiarcCSS is great, but it's not very flexible.
00:47.38AntiarcSometimes you just have to give up and fake it.
00:47.41MoonWitchwas hoping someone found a way around the css part without
00:47.52MoonWitchyeah that's what I had to do with my previous boyfriend
00:48.02p3limcss has been forked many times for improvements
00:48.17p3limanyways, any of you that knows how to add an alpha layer using paint? :p
00:48.29MoonWitchpaint.net allows it with a plugin
00:48.33MoonWitchnormal paint doesnt
00:48.35p3limmspaint
00:48.39MoonWitchthen no
00:48.49p3limmeh
00:49.19MoonWitchjust white 50% opacity?
00:49.21MoonWitchor black?
00:49.25p3limblack
00:49.29p3lim40%
00:51.00Cargorcss3 supports rgba() values for background, but i don't know current browser-support (no IE?)
00:51.15MoonWitchIE no -- don't even need to check that one
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00:54.55MoonWitchp3lim: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/635208/png.rar one it 40% the other 60% black
00:55.27p3limMoonWitch: thanks :)
00:56.15MoonWitchnot sure it will work as intended
00:56.16MoonWitch>.<
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00:58.09p3limMoonWitch: the alpha layers didnt seem to work well
00:58.35MoonWitchlooks harsh >.<
00:58.39MoonWitchhold on lemme check the png
00:58.48MoonWitchdid you use the 40?
00:59.21MoonWitchno wonder - the websetting didn't save them ..
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01:02.47p3limnvm MoonWitch
01:02.52p3limused rgba()
01:02.58MoonWitchhow does that work?
01:03.20MoonWitchnvm switched channels :P
01:03.44MoonWitchI just found that alpha channels aren't saved in png as they are in tga >.<
01:04.21MoonWitchkindly shoot me
01:04.53p3limbackground-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4)
01:04.54p3lim:)
01:05.03p3limit works in css3, but not css1
01:05.23MoonWitchno it doesn't
01:05.24p3limI think I like how it looks now
01:05.29MoonWitchrgba is new in css3
01:05.46p3limyeah, I'm using css3
01:07.29p3limwell, firefox is using it atleast, I don't give a shit about other browsers
01:07.48MoonWitchif you want, updated the png's ... alpha channel = bad in png :P
01:08.06MoonWitchhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/635208/png.rar
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01:11.10p3limnp, just gonna use this
01:11.24p3limanyways, how do I add a border to an image?
01:11.24MoonWitchit does look quite nice :)
01:11.46MoonWitchimg {border: 1px} ?
01:12.03p3limhttp, not css
01:12.19MoonWitcheh? you mean pure in html?
01:12.22p3limyes
01:12.34MoonWitchlol I can't remember
01:12.42MoonWitchbeen too css spoiled
01:12.50p3lim:p
01:12.53MoonWitch<img src="" border="">?
01:13.12MoonWitchyep
01:13.17MoonWitchchecked it, should work
01:13.31p3limhm
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01:13.43p3limsame attributes as used in css?
01:13.46Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 07master * ae3e5c2 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add toggle for adaptive/static zoom. Reimplement zoom keybinds.
01:13.49MoonWitchnope
01:13.54MoonWitchyou can only set size
01:13.59MoonWitchborder="1"
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01:17.52p3limcolor?
01:17.58MoonWitchnope
01:18.01p3limwth
01:18.10MoonWitchthat one is only possible with css
01:18.41p3limhtml sucks
01:18.53MoonWitchtotally
01:18.55p3limI don't have access to those images through html
01:19.11p3limthey are automaticly generated
01:19.23MoonWitchwell
01:19.29MoonWitchthey do use img tags
01:19.33MoonWitchadd it to your css
01:19.41MoonWitchshould get parsed with the rest of the page :)
01:19.46p3limthat would affect all images, I don't want that
01:19.52MoonWitchtrue
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01:20.27MoonWitch#photo img {border: 1px black}
01:20.43MoonWitchuhm
01:20.58MoonWitch.photo
01:21.18MoonWitchonly do the img inside the photo class ?
01:21.50p3limi'll play with it later, its a minor thing
01:21.58p3limright now I'm trying to make the text white :p
01:22.22MoonWitchyou are a masochist :P
01:23.10p3limwoot, got it working :D
01:23.15p3lim<3 w3schools
01:23.50p3limmasochist?
01:24.06MoonWitchyou like pain upon yourself
01:24.12MoonWitch(html and css)
01:24.15MoonWitchmuch much pain
01:24.25p3limmore like a perfectionist
01:24.32MoonWitchI have - at times - thrown my keyboard away from misery
01:24.36p3limlol
01:24.44p3limive done that, but for entirely different reasons
01:24.50MoonWitchperfectionist is a synonym for masochist in coding terms
01:25.07p3limenglish is not strong in this one btw
01:25.14MoonWitchI know
01:25.19MoonWitchI am tired
01:26.09p3limas in; I only know basic english
01:26.16MoonWitchoh
01:26.30MoonWitchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadomasochism basically
01:26.30p3limbarely any fancy words
01:26.47p3limlol, BDSM?
01:26.58MoonWitcha masochist is someone who likes pain
01:27.00p3limI know what sadism is
01:27.13p3limI dont like pain
01:27.13MoonWitcha perfectionist will often go through mental pains trying to perfect something.
01:27.17p3limI like beauty
01:27.18MoonWitchhence the comparison :)
01:27.24MoonWitchas do I
01:27.37p3limAnd I will do anything to achieve that
01:27.43p3limso yeah, pain
01:28.10MoonWitchyep
01:28.26MoonWitchFriends bought me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Claiming_of_Sleeping_Beauty (narrated)
01:28.46MoonWitchI was shocked within the first few minutes. Didn't realize it was pornographic
01:30.22Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 07master * beta-1 / (4 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Use spell names in the encounters modules to reduce localization needs
01:30.29Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 04beta-1 * 9f0aec3 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta 1
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01:58.52Repo10freak: 03kunda * r6 / (4 files in 1 directory): - max row value change (internal)
01:58.54Repo- deDE fix
01:58.55Repo- cleanup
02:06.00Repo10freak: 03kunda 0430300-2 * r7 : Tagging as 30300-2
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04:05.05Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 07master * beta-1.1 modules/totems.lua: [+1 commit] Fix some oddities with totems that expire due to range
04:05.12Repo10hudmap: 03Antiarc 04beta-1.1 * bff30f4 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta 1.1
04:05.45Cypriasnice, first beta
04:06.54Cyprias"-- Thanks Cyprias!" in HudMap.lua
04:06.54Cypriasyay!
04:09.01Zynor an evil omen
04:09.53Antiarc:)
04:15.35CypriasAntiarc: you might want to add a debug message where if there's a maplevel and it's not in your map table, print it once and ask the user to report it. there might be other areas that report the wrong level.
04:15.44Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r96 lilsparkysworkshop.lua: further updates for gnomeworks support
04:16.51Repo10gnomeworks (experimental): 03lilsparky * r19 / (10 files in 2 directories): added highly experimental tabs for "pseudo trades"
04:16.53Repotrade skills are now functional and the blizz frame should be hidden
04:16.54Repomoving from experimental to alpha.  woot!
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04:25.27p3limMeh, would like to finish this javascript :/
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04:43.03p3limcant be that hard to create a working script that will allow me to append a blog-page to the current one
04:46.07p3limhttp://pastey.net/137037
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05:35.51Repo-fix for the combat log listener not being registered/unregistered when using the LFD tool
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09:25.42Repoyoshimo: No project found that matches 'drdamage'
09:25.47yoshimo@project dr-damage
09:25.48Repoyoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dr-damage/. DrDamage. Game: WoW. Gagorian (Manager/Author), Detseuqer (Author), karzon13 (Author), zarquan (Author). Updated: 33 days ago. Tickets: 3/159
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10:33.04TorhalAntiarc: Is HudMap supposed to do anything when not in a group? All I see is a flashing minimap arrow.
10:36.46AntiarcNot particularly :P
10:36.51AntiarcIf you're a shaman try dropping totems
10:38.20TorhalUgh. Was hoping it would work in solo combat against multiple enemies
10:38.22Torhal:D
10:41.57Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2646 / (2 files in 2 directories): Bugfix
10:41.59RepoRS update
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23:17.23AdirelleStanzilla, is he showing the size of some tall friend of his ?
23:17.37Stanzillaprobably :p
23:19.55Fiskerit's all shit Stanzilla
23:20.26Fiskerif Satelite is the winner i don't want to hear the other contestants
23:20.41winkI liked Ukraine, she reminded me of Björk
23:21.04Fiskerbut i don't get it
23:21.14Fiskerwhy is that these events are filled with random unknown crap?
23:21.49winkdefine random unknown crap
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23:22.53marshenFisker ure german right? ^^
23:23.03Fiskerno.
23:23.08marshenoh sorry ^^
23:23.17Fiskeri would rather commit suicide in the führer bunker than be german
23:23.50marshenthe funny thing about being german is that everybody makes führer jokes except the germans...
23:23.50Fiskerwink: Music i don't like
23:24.13Fiskeri think "Heil" meaning "Heal" is pretty fucking hilarious
23:24.28marshenwould be kinda boring if such contest would be the charts ^^
23:24.46winkFisker: there was much music I didn't like :P
23:25.40marshen38 of 39 titles sucked... and i dont remember the one that was "ok" ^^
23:26.22winkI liked Ukraine, Romania, Turkey and Moldova
23:27.58Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/1Dojb.jpg <-actually i think i'll pass
23:28.03Fiskerwhat about you wink or marshen ?
23:28.11Fiskerdo you want a mint ogre-load in your mouth?
23:28.20winkmhm, oh yes
23:28.29winkit's nice and soft. squishy and.. cold
23:28.42marsheni dont want anything with mint flavor in my mouth
23:31.53marshenbtw did anyone mention that mcdonals and burger king are way to expensive?
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23:34.02harlit's more kind of like everyone know it but noone speaks about it.
23:34.11harl+s
23:35.14marshenhmm k... the doner kebab guys difinetly like it :P
23:35.34wink2 Döner > 1 maxi menu
23:35.44winkin terms of not being able to move afterward
23:37.26harlstill, they're making a hell of a deal from selling their stuff, especially in germany, considering the amount of people feasting from bk/md only, wouldn't you think?
23:38.00harl.. and they even shove most of their profits into their own pockets (despite whatever they may say elsewhere, just in case they do)
23:39.20marshenwink how about buying only 1 and take the 3.50 for the next day :P
23:39.39winkwas just a comparison for price
23:39.54wink1 is less than a normal Big Mac or whatever menu with fries though
23:40.09winkand 7 Hamburgers also make you reasonably sated :P
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23:43.12harl7 burgers is quite a lot
23:45.13marshen7 burgers? i cant eat more than 3 ^^
23:45.32marshento many burgers are disgusting
23:48.02winkstandard German McDonalds Hamburger
23:48.05wink3 bites
23:48.09harli don't really like burgers. i'm a salads person though, so i do like the potato, onion and whatever mayonaise kind of stuff they put on the royal ts.
23:48.31harlwhat
23:48.39harli wanted to write tomato, not potato
23:48.47winkI wondered.. a bit
23:48.48harlstupid brain
23:48.52winkRoyal KS
23:48.56wink:)
23:48.58harllol..
23:49.47winklike the McRösti or whatever
23:55.34harlmashing up my own sandwiches works much better for me
23:56.13harllike the ones they make at subway's too, but those are actually too expensive as well

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