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00:03.05Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta9-19-g01b7555 Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] Add Mind Trauma debuff to Priest enemy debuffs whitelist.
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00:18.05pompy1dock.isDirty = true;--You dirty, dirty frame
00:18.07pompy1ohh Blizzard
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00:36.06Arrowmastertheres much better stuff in the exe if you look at it with a hex editor
00:38.47ShefkiI just ran strings on the OS X binary, didn't see anything interesting at all.
00:41.29StanzillaShefki: got my pm?
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01:12.54Groktarheh
01:13.13Groktarout of order columns when using union = bad
01:13.41Groktarespecially when the resulting data *looks* right
01:13.42Groktarkekeke
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01:34.00pompySo what is a replacement for XRS?
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02:04.08Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5022
02:04.12Groktarthis person offends me
02:04.13Groktarnot sure why
02:08.20arkanesmaybe its because they like pvp
02:08.22arkanesand pvp is for suckers
02:08.48arkanesI hate your sig more than his post though :(
02:09.40arkanesI don't have http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/53129/treads-of-impending-resurrection/ though!
02:09.44arkanesthose are awesome
02:09.48arkaneser, hate
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02:16.51Groktarlol arkanes
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03:27.14Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta9-20-g487ad24 Controls/BetterStatusBar.lua: [+1 commit] Fix an error caused by recycling a BetterStatusBar with animations on.
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04:30.44steevargh!
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04:32.11steevblood mirror/gushing wound off the bad, bite one, bite two, <second air phase> gets kinda scary, a healer goes down, bite three, whew i'm in the clear... no wait, 2 people missed their bites... 2 mc's to kill... someone gets dc'd, they get pact right as they are dcing, another healer goes down, and wipe at 8800k health
04:32.16steevoff the bat*
04:33.10steevinterestingly enough, our dw frost dk (he switched back tonight from unholy) put up 19k dps
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04:52.57Allaragah shefki, yet another person in my raid abusing the DXE raid warnings, and I can't block them :\
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05:32.56steevAllara: even if you /ignore them?
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05:55.45Repo10acegui-3-0-multiselect-widget: 03Necramar * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Initial Import
05:56.32ThraeAnyone have a (UI) diff up of the 3.3.5 PTR?
06:02.30Repo10acegui-3-0-multiselect-widget: 03Necramar * r3 MultiSelect.lua: -- Fixing file name
06:06.12Arrowmasteri thought there was a multiselect widget?
06:06.32Arrowmaster^nevcairiel
06:10.24ShefkiThere is.
06:11.09Shefkitype = 'multiselect'
06:11.19ShefkiFor AceConfig
06:12.40ShefkiAnd for AceGUI it's just the Dropdown with the SetMultiselect(true) set
06:13.18Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowace.com/profiles/Necramar/
06:13.23Arrowmasterso this guy is just crazy
06:13.30Arrowmasteronly 2 projects
06:14.12Arrowmasterok his is a scrolling frame not a dropdown
06:14.13ShefkiWell looking at his screenshot it is different from what we already have.
06:14.17ShefkiYeah.
06:14.43ShefkiLooks like it just highlights the selected items too, no checkbox.
06:15.15ShefkiAnd based on his API, I'd guess he's aware of the Dropdown widget.
06:15.29Arrowmasterprobably best to have somebody just take his code, probably have to clean it up, and put it into AceGUI instead of having it as a separate project, if its something people are going to use
06:15.38ShefkiOr maybe not his API is a different case.
06:15.57ShefkiAren't there already several widgets that are separate AceGUI things?
06:16.20ShefkiI know Shadowed wrote a couple.
06:16.38Arrowmasteri only know of one
06:16.53Arrowmasterthe sharedmedia one
06:17.01ShefkiLooks like there are 3.
06:17.15ShefkiSharedMediaWidgets, Spell-EditBox, ActionSlotWidgets.
06:18.34Shadowedwat
06:18.46ShefkiNothing...
06:18.59Shadowedoh that
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06:21.26Arrowmasterhmm no .pkgmeta seems that Required dependency: Ace3 is from default relationship, i didnt even know that still existed since i dont see the options for it anywhere
06:24.17ShefkiWe need a way to browse repos, I hate having to check stuff out just to poke around.
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06:26.19Arrowmastercurse.com just crashed my browser
06:26.41ShefkiCorrection: Crappy fash ads on curse.com crashed your browser.
06:26.52Arrowmasterthere are no flash ads on curse.com for me
06:26.59Arrowmasterthere are no flash ads ANYWHERE for me
06:27.12ShefkiWhat browser are you using?
06:27.19Arrowmasterfirefox
06:27.26ShefkiI finally gave up on the fox.
06:27.30Arrowmasterit was probably the few hundred tabs open that crashed it
06:28.44ShefkiHoly crap FF14 looks like 11 with nicer graphics.
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07:44.40Adirelle|workShadowed, elitistarmory lacks some info about how realm population is calculated
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08:02.27ShadowedAdirelle|work: Because I presume it's rather obvious? :p
08:02.33Shadowedit takes the data it has
08:02.35Shadowedand it displays it
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08:03.25Adirelle|workyes, but what are "the data it has" ? my realm population seems pretty weird
08:03.50SunTsuShadowed: elitistarmory resets "country" selection while putting you into the queue
08:03.51Adirelle|workdoes it counts every character or only 80ers ?
08:04.02Shadowedshould be every
08:04.34Adirelle|workand only scanned characters I presume, so it depends on people asking for their profile ?
08:05.18Shadowedright
08:05.18SunTsuShadowed: like EU/Nozdormu/Maltrigol gets US/Nozdormu/Maltrigol in the prefilled formular, so pressing "view" again will error, because there is no US/Nozdormu
08:05.30ShadowedSunTsu kk
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08:06.23Adirelle|workso I think you should remove the alliance/horde ratio because it isn't based on data accurate enough
08:06.32ShadowedIt's not about "accurate"
08:06.34Shadowedno data is accurate
08:06.38ShadowedIt's based on the data I have, pure and simple
08:08.21Adirelle|workthat should be mentionned somewhere on the page then
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08:23.57vhaarrShadowed: still no rank listing for me, this isn't fair!
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09:56.17Adirelle|workhrmf, wowace.com really lacks a "localization" subscription option (let alone fine-grained subscriptions)
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10:50.18sylvanaar_atworkyou can always use your API key Adirelle|work and just get the info using a script or something
10:52.05sylvanaar_atworkits a bit tedious but not hard
10:53.35Adirelle|workright
10:53.42Adirelle|workactually I just use the API key to update my sources
10:54.02Adirelle|work(so I can commit them and moreover see my addons in my language instead of english)
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11:08.47vhaarrgotta love typos
11:08.56vhaarrlook at the screenshot for this addon; http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info16757-BossEncounters.html
11:09.14vhaarr"Please select your _roll_ in this raid" :P
11:10.37vhaarrin other news, this is awesome; http://www.coroflot.com/public/individual_set.asp?individual_id=262710&set_id=378002&
11:13.31hastevhaarr: I like the text in the background better
11:13.33hastesup with that
11:14.10vhaarrah hehe I didn't even notice that
11:14.18vhaarr"differend"?
11:17.01hasteand it's cut :D
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11:25.30Myrroddinhmmm i guess failure at creating project for LibGuildBankComm-1.0 ... I don't see it yet. or does it take some time?
11:27.51Myrroddinnevermind... figured it out
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11:47.05Repo10old-instance-finder: 03DrKazza * r30 OldInstanceFinder.lua: pausing for ruby sanctum
11:49.50Repo10old-instance-finder: 03DrKazza 04v1.01 * r31 : Tagging as v1.01
11:49.51Reporemoved Ruby sanctum until libraries are updated
12:00.37Repo10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0-beta-11-6-g4f65f17 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
12:00.39Repo4f65f17: Avoid spawning extra icon frames for nameplates.
12:00.40Repoe359072: Some more debug.
12:00.42Repo662d5ca: Minor activation code change.
12:09.08Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r298 / (3 files in 2 directories):
12:09.10Repoadapted rules editor to new Ace3 editbox button disabling (thanks Nevcairiel.)
12:09.11Reporelease 1.1.6
12:09.41Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.1.6 * r299 : tagging as 1.1.6
12:21.48Repo10libguildbankcomm-1-0 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): NOT WORKING!! I need to de-Ace3 this first.
12:21.50RepoInitial build for project
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12:27.48Repo10libschema-1-0 (experimental): 03Bethink * r12 .pkgmeta:
12:27.50Reporemoved enable-nolib-creation: no to prevent inclusion of LibStub when running embedded
12:40.12Repo10libitembonus-2-0: 03jerry * r94 LibItemBonus-2.0 (12 files in 2 directories):
12:40.14RepoFix Ticket-8: As OnInitialize is called after PLAYER_LOGIN, it's presence is not a good indicator for first load, in case the user loads LIB multiple times. So use a specific marker instead.
12:41.07Repo10libguildbankcomm-1-0 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r3 LibGuildBankComm-1.0.toc:
12:41.09Repofixed toc entries for LibStub, CallbackHandler-1.0, and ChatThrottleLib
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13:51.50Repo10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r242 LibFail-1.0.lua: fix some parenthesis
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14:01.29arkanes_http://questionablecontent.net/
14:01.32arkanes_hooray
14:10.19Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.5.0_ReleaseCandidate-1-2-g2415136 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
14:10.21Repo2415136: - Fixed a syntax mistake introduced in a sanity check in 062ffebe458.
14:10.22Repo5712303: - Forgot to set the markup type for the changelog, I knew this release candidate couldn't be perfect :/
14:17.25Repo10smartres2: 03Zidomo * r115 SmartRes2.toc:
14:17.27RepoRevert TOC change so the mod can actually find & load properly the packaged LibBars-1.0
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15:16.47harlfor the horde!
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15:23.45harlfor the alliance!
15:23.58harldamn, i seem to be bifractional.
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15:24.55yoshimoi have no problem with it, im for the horde , only alliance char i have is for trading ah stuff^^
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15:27.36harlyou've got to be the one i've bought most of my alliance argentum mini-pets from then.
15:27.54harlor, vice versa
15:28.40harlbecause although i could have, i've never traded those for my own puposes
15:28.51harl+r
15:30.03Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r114 / (12 files in 1 directory):
15:30.05Repo- removed character specific exceptions (was useless anyway)
15:30.10Repo- removed acelocale
15:33.36Repo10libbossids-1-0: 03yoshimo * r43 LibBossIDs-1.0.lua: Ruby Sanctum 3.3.5 PTR
15:33.38RepoHalion, Saviana, Baltharus, Zarithrian
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15:34.13yoshimousually there is a difference in prices between horde and alliance, which you can turn into profit
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15:37.49harlindeed
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15:40.55yoshimo~seen Elsia
15:40.59purlelsia <n=elsiarow@99.150.141.76> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 154d 10h 49m 59s ago, saying: 'anyway, nite folks'.
15:41.11nevcairiellong sleep
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15:56.30yoshimo~seen Cyprias
15:56.32purlcyprias <~Administr@S0106001919118ef2.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14d 10h 57m 58s ago, saying: 'I've yet to see it in action. not in the high raids yet.'.
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16:12.07steevNivFreak: so our other dk went dw frost last night
16:12.15steevNivFreak: he did 19k dps on that fight
16:12.23steevs/that fight/bql/
16:12.35sbufirst bite then!?
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16:14.34steevyeah
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16:15.13steevand i was on track to finish the quest, until 2 people missed their bites, and got mc'd, and another guy dc'd right as he got death pact
16:17.15yoshimoi have the feeling that blizzard broke avr on ptr, all getcvars return empty results currently
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16:18.27steevavr does feel like cheating sometimes
16:18.45yoshimomaybe blizz feels the same way?
16:19.13yoshimodoes tekkub still update his ui.diff git repo?
16:19.19Matsy.. ALL CVars return empty results?
16:19.39nevcairielyoshimo: not sure, i usually keep a local copy to update
16:19.55yoshimoi checked the ones from avr, give me another example matsy
16:20.20nevcairielMan, and i would've wagered they wouldnt break it until 4.0
16:20.53MatsyTry easy ones like autoClearAFK?
16:22.32yoshimodump GetCVar("processAffinityMask")  returns 15
16:22.51yoshimodump GetCVar("cameraPitchE")  "empty result"
16:22.59MatsyPitchE?
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16:23.33Matsyhm
16:23.35Matsythat's fail
16:23.40MatsyAnd cameraYawE?
16:24.16yoshimoEMPTY
16:24.22Matsywow
16:24.23Matsyshit
16:24.31nevcairieladdons like AVRE are kinda fail if you ask me, they have the potential to become "mandatory", rather see them banned now, instead of them adapting their encounter design
16:25.39sylvanaar_atworkwhats avre
16:26.11sbuworld-overlay-graphic-bossmods :p
16:26.14yoshimoit draws circles for encounters to visualize distance between players or other spots you should keep away
16:26.20sylvanaar_atworkah
16:26.39Caleb|wd
16:26.42nevcairielworks way too good, too
16:26.42steevwhich is good for the people in your raid who are fucking retarded and can't figure out that they are standing in the fire
16:26.47Caleb|dang
16:27.07yoshimobtw caleb, did you transcript halion and minions?
16:27.17Caleb|y
16:27.26steevor are retarded and run over to the person who is about to become icetombed
16:27.41yoshimobecause stanzilla forgot about it and i wanted to check npcids and stuff
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16:27.51Caleb|already have some very basic module for halion but couldn't test it, we bailed early from PTR had to go wipe on LK 25 heroic
16:27.54Matsyyoshimo, they'll think of something
16:27.55Matsy:+
16:28.07MatsyI am sure
16:28.21steevso is there a new 5 man instance or just a raid with 3.3.5?
16:28.26Matsyraid?
16:28.27yoshimoruby sanctum only
16:28.42nevcairielCaleb|: you too? would've thought some good guilds would at least stick to the good ol' style :P
16:28.45steevwould be nice to down lk 25 normal before it shows up :(
16:29.08steevnevcairiel: work smarter not harder
16:29.27nevcairielrelying on addons will eventually make you less smart, less aware
16:29.32yoshimonevcairiel, did you see my problem with acetab2?
16:30.02Caleb|even our standards are so low lately, expecting people to be "smart" is just not viable anymore
16:30.04Matsythat's why my guild invites no one that uses xperl
16:30.04Matsy:D
16:30.25nevcairielyoshimo: yeah
16:32.21yoshimoyou could also add the RS bosses to babble.boss
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16:52.50nevcairielyoshimo: if you are still looking for that repo, i just forked his and pushed the last two ptr patches http://github.com/Nevcairiel/wow-ui-source
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16:58.17yoshimothey changed quite a few things on the chat, didnt they?
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17:30.19sylvanaar_atworki have to install teh ptr - i hope they didnt break anything
17:30.45yoshimoi think all chataddons need some work
17:30.52sylvanaar_atwork=(
17:31.34yoshimolook at the link necairiel posted, at the git repo
17:33.13Xinhuanluckily i don't have a chat addon ;p
17:33.43yoshimoi love being able to copy urls to clipboard^^
17:33.50nevcairieli have my own very simple chat addon, i never had it break before
17:34.47yoshimothe added scrolling with the mousewheel and other stuff, i can imagine that addons break
17:34.53Kuosihum
17:35.18Kuosithat sucks if chat addons really do break
17:35.35Kuosiso used to copy paste
17:35.56Kuosidoubt workaround gonna be too hard to pull of tho
17:39.33nevcairieli know one mod thats going to break for sure, and imho, its good that way :D
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17:46.26Kuosithat must be gearscore
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17:50.33Mileadusan anchor point is the point where you can click to move it right?
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18:08.18groktarruh roh
18:08.47groktarstarted a query on live and i can't kill it
18:10.39yoshimonevcairiel, was kuosi correct or do you mean avr?^^
18:10.54nevcairielavr :d
18:11.04nevcairielgearscore will not die, sadly
18:11.10nevcairielit doesnt use any special stuff
18:11.36yoshimogs doesnt have to be broken, it already is. Hooking itemlinks in a bad way as it seems
18:12.27hastehe hook strings?
18:13.02yoshimoi dont know, but on multiple occasions it spits errors while hovering over itemlinks
18:13.31yoshimothere is something wrong in the way he does it
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18:17.00hasteso it just hooks the chatframe hyperlinks in other words
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18:34.54yoshimoill waste my time on reading its source after icc ;)
18:37.39hasteI'm not wasting my time reading it :)
18:42.35yoshimohttp://pastebin.com/3QiWrcC2
18:52.15wink*blind shot* anyone using prosody? (jabber)
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18:55.09yoshimono im using miranda for it
18:56.52winkas a jabber server?
19:01.36yoshimoah its a server.. no i mean client
19:02.38winksupposed so
19:02.43steeveveryone i know uses openfire?
19:02.48steevopensomething
19:02.50winkorosody is written in lua
19:02.59wink*prosody
19:03.23winkjava stuff doesn't even run on my vps
19:03.32winktigase nearly killed the machine
19:03.38winkhaven't even tried openfire
19:03.45winkejabberd works again in hardy
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19:13.12Fiskerhey haste
19:13.15Fiskeri hate haste
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19:14.26pentium166i hate arpen
19:15.48yoshimowho uses that?
19:16.52GagorianI hate arpen too...
19:18.09hasteyoshimo: doesn't seem it hooks any hover then
19:19.13yoshimoits breaking verys often on items though ;)
19:27.03Fiskeras a paly i think i hate arpen more than haste
19:27.08Fiskernot entirely sure though
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20:28.58steevi have too much arpen
20:29.17steevnot on purpose, just happens to be the gear i'm wearing has almost 55% arp
20:32.14Kuosihow can you have too much
20:32.30Kuosiunless you're a ret pala or muti rogue
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20:35.24steevi'd gladly give up a piece or two for expertise on something
20:35.54Kuosiyou playing dk?
20:36.21Kuosiand what spec
20:38.47steevunholy
20:39.02steevalthough looking at the ej thread, there is 0 expertise on any item in the bis
20:39.41Kuosiexpertise is just that bad for uh
20:40.11steevso it shouldn't matter that my attacks get dodged?
20:40.59Kuosiit pretty much only screws up your rotation if you get 2 dodges in same cycle
20:41.29Kuosiand it's not like it's end of the world for unholy to have diseases off for a sec
20:41.40Kuosiwhere as missing pestilence as frost is another story
20:42.34Kuosithere's atleast bql neck with expertise
20:42.37Kuosibut that's about it
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21:12.20steevKuosi: yeah, i've passed up items on the "bis list" because i'd drop below cap, and i'm bad because i am gemming for expertise, but i do notice a massive difference between not and being expertise capped
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21:14.14Kuosithink my dk has like 15 expertise as unholy
21:14.28Kuosihavent played uh for ages tho
21:15.11steevi'm at 26 because i use +20 exp gems currently
21:15.14Pneumatusanyone know what buff frames this UI is using: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9213/screenshot050110230307.jpg
21:15.25steevsatrina
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21:15.43steevwith button facade, i'd imagine
21:15.58Kuosipretty much any buffmod can achieve that
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21:16.44Kuosibut yep im betting it's satrina or buffalo with buttonfacade
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21:31.05Kaelten"Unmanaged" "Not managed" or "Ignored"
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21:34.03marlenOLA
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21:41.40steevKaelten: depends on context?
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21:41.57Kaeltensteev: mac client for the "ignore this folder/addon" feature
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21:42.09steevignored, imo
21:42.51steevthen again, mac users are all snobbery and whatnot, so perhaps, Self-managed :P
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21:56.41steevwhen did they make the pvp mounts buyable with honor?
21:57.35Stanzillathe same patch they removed the battleground emblems
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23:16.22Whitetoothwtf I bought a [Sylvanas' Music Box] for 50k on the AH and got banned....Exploitative Activity: Abuse of the Economy
23:18.26Fiskerpwnt Whitetooth
23:18.34groktarlol
23:18.48groktarthis ticket is awesome
23:18.52groktarsupposed to be writing a new feature
23:18.54Fiskerweird to buy that anyway Whitetooth
23:19.03groktarevery 45 minutes or so i get an email changing how it's supposed to work
23:19.04groktarso awesome
23:19.04Whitetoothits rare!
23:19.55Whitetoothand I wanted since I first heard about it
23:21.13groktarWhitetooth hax :(
23:22.13Whitetoothonly one per Shadowmourne made, and I'm a lock I can't make Shadowmourne :(
23:23.07Fiskernaw
23:23.11NivFreakWhitetooth: you sure that was really why?
23:23.26Fiskeryou can do it an unlimited amount of times etc.
23:23.37Whitetoothno you can't
23:23.52Fiskeroh but you can
23:23.56NivFreakit's a quest you get after making shadowmourne
23:24.01NivFreakand you can do it once ;P
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23:24.56WhitetoothI also bought the [Reins of the Crimson Deathcharger] for 50k, that probably add to the banning too
23:25.12FiskerIn order to loot the chest, you need to complete the Shadowmourne quest line and have ‘The Lich King’s Last Stand’ in your quest log. Additionally, it is possible for the item to drop multiple times for one Shadowmourne wielder.
23:25.50Whitetooth"possible" his guessing was proven wrong
23:26.06Fiskerguessing?
23:26.15FiskerWhy would one of the senior GM staff need to guess?
23:26.40WhitetoothI thought everyone knew it only dropped once by now
23:26.59Fiskeri've heard other references that it only stops dropping after turning in the quest
23:27.00Whitetoothjust ask any one who has Shadowmourne
23:27.16Fiskerso keeping the quest active in your log will yield a drop for as long as it's active
23:27.34Whitetoothumm no
23:27.47Whitetoothyou get the item from the quest reward
23:28.03Fiskernot that quest
23:28.42Whitetoothyes, the quest for the toy items
23:29.27Whitetoothanyways, its a well known fact
23:29.48Fiskeri'm talking about the "Lich king's last stand" that you get after forging it
23:30.01FiskerAccording to the GM, and wowhead posters, etc. it drops as long as you don't turn that one in
23:30.50arkaneshah 300k ashen verdict rep
23:31.07arkaneskilling the LK is only worth 1500 :(
23:31.10Lysitheaboth our wielders tried various different stuff
23:31.12Lysitheaone drop only
23:31.29LysitheaGms dont know what they're talking about, different gms give different answers
23:31.50Fiskeri expect more from a senior Lysithea
23:31.54Fiskerotherwise i would agree
23:32.07Aens|Superiorityyou act like a GM is first and foremost, an expert on wow and not a customer service representative
23:32.12Fiskerbut guess i'll have to agree that he/she was wrong then
23:33.02Fiskerhope i get the deathcharger then when i finally collect mine
23:34.02Fiskeranyway i then officially hate Blizzard then
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23:34.36Fiskerone time drop and it's no wonder if a guild would want it split between their members
23:35.49groktar<@angrychkn> i wonder if alienware sells just their cases
23:35.51groktaroh god
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