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00:14.07orionshockhttp://wow.curseforge.com/addons/impignore/tickets/22-event-handler-hook-conflict/
00:14.08orionshock...
00:15.35orionshock~seen egingell
00:15.36purlorionshock: i haven't seen 'egingell'
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01:19.44Shefkiorionshock: Why would he be hooking RegisterEvent?
01:20.37orionshockit's an Ignore More type of addon...
01:21.01orionshockprolly from the old days too
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02:48.11TorhalFoo
02:48.26Torhalorionshock: BTW: He replied to your ticket
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06:56.44Repo10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.0.0-8-gafa37a3 Database (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
06:56.46Repoafa37a3: Added a new custom string
06:56.47Repoce3294b: trim trailing space
06:56.48Repod9f9e6d: Added the "Zipao Tiger" pet
06:56.49Repo0091a1e: Add the F_REMOVED flag to "Onyxian Whelpling" and "Mr. Chilly" pets
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06:58.41Repo10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.0.0-9-gc0912a3 Database/PetDatabase.lua: [+1 commit] Oops, it's F_REMOVED not F_RETIRED
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07:10.30Repo10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r114 / (2 files in 1 directory): removed: unnecessary code and translation
07:10.32Repoupdated: localization from repository
07:10.33Repofixed: toc entry for LibBars (hopefully removing TestAddon folder)
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07:22.37Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2625 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Knight of the Ebon Blade update
07:24.51Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2626 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Knights of the Ebon Blade update
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11:57.18Repo10fragile3: 03Dridzt * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Split event processing (performance tweak)
11:57.45Repo- Create a priority list for role overrides (better handling of role changes after the initial role is set)
11:57.46Repo- minor version bump in prep for release
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13:18.40Mikk@describe fragile3
13:18.41RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fragile3/. Fragile3. Aggro Warning System for Parties and Raids.
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15:56.48Repo10grid-status-party: 03kunda * r38 / (7 files in 2 directories): fix & localization update
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16:49.06steev<3 Miley
16:49.40Primereh?
16:51.10steevdunno
16:51.18steevsome guild on this pvp server
16:51.30steevthey keep advertising for recruiting
16:51.36steevone of the requirements is to <3 Miley
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16:58.10steevhttp://i.imgur.com/ev4aQ.jpg anyone happen to know a close approximation to those unit frames?
16:59.36steevi'm currently just using the default blizz ones, but I noticed that I die a lot because I don't notice i'm almost dead :P
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17:17.11winkshould be easy with shadowed
17:17.49NechcknYeah, in fact, that is almost surely what that is in the SS, steev
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17:22.47Pneumatusis there a way in default UI to have sticky channels, so the chat edit box always starts off being for the last channel typed in?
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17:26.59nevcairielsure, every freakin chat mod does that
17:27.09Pneumatusno, default ui
17:27.19Pneumatusas in, with no addons :)
17:27.29nevcairielrun a /script every log in?
17:27.30nevcairiel:D
17:27.50nevcairielblizzard doesnt have options for that, but its a trivial change in some table
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17:28.14Pneumatusin which case, ill investigate!
17:29.06groktarwouldn't really even need a chatmod if that were the default behavior
17:29.20PneumatusChatTypeInfo.CHANNEL.sticky = 1, etc it seems!
17:29.23Pneumatustime to macro
17:29.41nevcairielall my chatmod does is .. add timestamps, change sticky behavour, move/hide some of the chatframe herpes
17:29.57nevcairieloh and filter out loot messages for emblems that are not my own =P
17:30.05nevcairielwrote his own chatmod
17:30.14Pneumatusyou stolez that bit from me didnt you :P
17:30.24nevcairielpossible
17:31.13nevcairieloh and i added a clickable-url thing :)
17:31.44Pneumatusgot a macro to enable sticky channels now, thats one annoyance covered
17:32.01groktarplaying on alpha Pneumatus?
17:32.16nevcairieli have sticky on for everything but whisper and emote
17:32.23Pneumatusobviously i can neither confirm or deny
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17:32.26nevcairielserved me well
17:32.36groktarsounds reasonable
17:32.53nevcairielalpha can run addons, i wouldnt see that as a reason :d
17:32.55groktari usually leave sticky on for whisper, but now that i think about it i never use it
17:33.01groktarsince i almost always use the chat reply button
17:33.03Pneumatusnevcairiel: not at the moment
17:33.04Pneumatusi mean
17:33.07Pneumatusi wouldnt know
17:33.07Pneumatusetc
17:33.15groktarwell, stuff breaks on alpha all the time
17:33.21groktarand right now you can't use addons on alpha
17:33.26groktarthey have them turned off
17:33.32nevcairielnot something like a damn simple mod that just does the chat stickys
17:33.42groktarshrugs
17:33.51Pneumatusall addons are flagged insecure
17:34.10nevcairielhuh, someone else said he tested most of his addons, and it worked fine, did they push a new alpha build?
17:37.26nevcairieli guess they did
17:39.31NivFreakaddons are disabled in the new build yea
17:39.47NivFreakthey want us using the default interface
17:39.55NivFreakwhich is obnoxious
17:40.20Mileadusthats gonna get annoying really quick
17:40.31nevcairielthe default ui isnt that bad
17:40.35Pneumatusyeh, it is
17:40.39Mileadusit's not terrific either
17:40.55Pneumatuswatching your own dots in a party, for example
17:40.55Brunersthe whole point for them to have PTR is that people test their shit and not someone elses code
17:40.56NivFreakit's pretty terrible
17:40.57nevcairielthe only annoying part for me always was that tree form has paging set up
17:40.57Pneumatusis HORRIBLE
17:41.08nevcairieland i dont :p
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17:41.18NivFreakno clique ftl
17:41.36nevcairieldependencys on addons = ftl :p
17:41.38NivFreakhehe
17:41.51steevwtb a curse that stops logging me out, pst
17:41.54Mileadusi tried clique on my mage, worked pretty good cuz all i have to do is remove curse...and then i tried to set it up for my priest...mistake lol
17:42.02NivFreakfor questing and the one 5man that's open
17:42.04NivFreakit'll be fine
17:42.17NivFreakMileadus: ...
17:42.19steevMileadus: personally i just go with the top heals i need
17:42.36NivFreakI can't think of an easier addon to configure than cloque
17:42.36NivFreakclique*
17:42.39steevon the holy paladin, thats fol, hl
17:42.46Mileadusmacro mouseover
17:42.55steeveverything else is on my toolbars as 1 -4
17:43.07steevthen again, i suck and pretty much only heal heroics
17:43.11NivFreakhehe
17:43.15Pneumatus1-4 are cooldowns for me
17:43.19Pneumatusthe rest is on clique
17:43.30NivFreakon my priest, 1-4 are things like fade, self bubble, SW:D
17:43.30steevon the shaman, clique is only for earthshield and chainheal
17:43.33steevMIRITE
17:43.48Mileadusyes
17:43.49NivFreakevery heal / CD is bound to a mouse/modifier combo
17:43.50Pneumatusoh i lie, holy nova is on 2
17:44.09NivFreakyea, holy nova is keybound for me
17:44.12steevgah
17:44.54steevum, i'm looking at shadowed, and that screenshot, and they don't exactly look much alike
17:45.18steevunless the ss's for shadowed haven't been updated recently
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17:46.12nevcairielyou can skin Shadowed's
17:47.41steevso 20% today maybe? or we still have another week?
17:48.19Pneumatusanother week i think
17:48.23Pneumatusonly had 15% for 3 weeks now
17:48.41nevcairielyeah should be another week
17:49.17steevbah
17:49.31steevi wanna do my quests
17:50.33steevand still not sure why but even with 15% we are still hittin bqls enrage
17:50.58steevprobably a TON to do with the fact that we keep getting f'n warrior hunter shaman tokens
17:51.45steeveven though we have no hunters, and the shaman's have enough tokens for both sets, and we had 2 people switch somewhat recently from their class to warriors... who are now enough tokens to have both dps and tank sets
17:51.49steevin 264
17:51.59arkanes_I've still never gotten a single token on any toon
17:52.16arkanes_I'm kinda pissed off about it, because I basically have to get some before i can start swapping any of my gear around
17:52.17steevi have 2 264, but one was from VoA
17:52.17NivFreaksteev: normal BQL?
17:52.21steevNivFreak: yes
17:52.26NivFreaksteev: are bitten people dying?
17:52.33steevno
17:52.36steevwell
17:52.39steevif one dies, we wipe it
17:52.44NivFreakman
17:52.50NivFreakwe beat the enrage timer by more than a minute I think?
17:52.56NivFreakwho gets your first bite usually?
17:53.00steevme :D
17:53.05NivFreakclass?
17:53.09steevdk
17:53.09arkanes_it's best if a ranged gets it
17:53.13NivFreakdo you break 20k?
17:53.16arkanes_unless all your ranged are poop, of course
17:53.21steevif it isn't me that gets it, its the warlock
17:53.36NivFreakour hunters/mages tend to win, but our DK also ends up getting it sometimes
17:53.38steevand no, i don't break 20k, not even close
17:53.41NivFreakall 20k+ for first bite
17:53.50steevNivFreak: if i don't fuck up my rotation, i get bit first
17:53.54arkanes_our warlocks are all the aforementioned poop so I've never seen a good one on BQL, but I'd expect that they would do very well as the first bite
17:54.04arkanes_because of superbuffed dots rolling during the offtarget time
17:54.06steevi do lose a lot of time because the god damned warlock who is supposed to be bitten first NEVER runs to me
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17:54.37arkanes_steev: with the 15% buff you should be able to lose a bite and still win, assuming you could beat it with a perfect run without the buff
17:54.54NivFreaksteev: then pick someone who doesn't fail
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17:55.31NivFreaksteev: are you using BloodQueen to help with bites?
17:55.47steevnot sure what addon is used
17:56.12steevbut first bite if melee, bites a ranged, if ranged, they bite a melee
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17:56.19steevand then melee bite melee and ranged bite ranged
17:56.20NivFreakyou can use BloodQueen+my patch, BloodQueen_AVR, and AVR and then it's dead simple
17:56.35NivFreakyea
17:56.42steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/jfp7oakpv4uit0tp/sum/damageDone/?s=10657&e=10969
17:56.47steevthat was our most recent
17:57.00steevi lost a lot of time from trying to get blood mirror
17:57.07NivFreakfor shadowmourne?
17:57.11steevthe ot didn't notice me trying to get it (even though it was announced)
17:57.17steevand he was standing right on the tank
17:57.32NivFreakhey, we fucked up and did normal BQL (god damn setting...)
17:57.34NivFreaklet me find our WoL
17:58.02NivFreakhttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/kr99awhgn1bna6v8/sum/damageDone/?s=1720&e=2001
17:58.02steevi did notice that recently SS is affected by the bite damage
17:58.05arkanes_heres ours
17:58.06arkanes_http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ksiu2is9nmi1rrvb/sum/damageDone/?s=9124&e=9430
17:58.07sbuAllara: btw, AVRE still displays too many blue circles for putricide
17:58.08steevwhereas it didn't seem to be
17:58.19NivFreakalki was first bite on ours
17:58.22arkanes_sbu: I used it on 10 hard last night and it did it right
17:58.26NivFreaksecksual 2nd
17:58.32Allarasbu: unable to reproduce that, please be more specific
17:58.34NivFreakdeh/zal 3rd/4th
17:58.43steevNivFreak: what kind of gear is alki in?
17:58.59NivFreakhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&cn=Alki
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17:59.14NivFreakhe's a beast, he places on WoL ranks constantly
17:59.33NivFreakWoL for mages touch 29k range, ours never break 21k or so w/ first bite
17:59.42steev><
17:59.45steevwtb that neck
17:59.58arkanes_steev: we only had like 4k more raidwide DPS than you
17:59.59NivFreakwell you have to kill BQL :)
18:00.15steevNivFreak: yeah well, we've killed her a few times
18:00.18steevshe hasn't dropped it at all
18:00.27steevand the belt from dreamwalker only dropped once
18:00.34steevwhich went to armaneth
18:00.35NivFreakhrmm, he ranked #9 on that report
18:00.38steevactually wait
18:00.55NivFreakbeen a while since we did a normal BQL kill
18:00.57steevindifferent (who has pretty much quit playing) got the neck when it did drop once (i think)
18:01.14sbuAllara: uhm, i see like 10 blue circles for 3 goos!?
18:01.20NivFreakyour hunters are terrible =/
18:01.21arkanes_heh wol messed up your holy pallies DPS too
18:01.38arkanes_I had that happen a couple weeks ago, it was showing me at 10k+ dps for judging once
18:02.05steevoh i see
18:02.10steevhe's wearing the t10 pants
18:02.13Allarasbu: only one goo can be determined. Malleable Goo (All) shows a blue circle under everyone at once. Turn it off if you don't like it.
18:02.17steevwas wondering how the hell he was expertise capped in that gear
18:02.23NivFreakour locks are all mostly last or 2nd to last bite cycle
18:02.30sbuAllara: ahh, i see
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18:02.38NivFreakand she dies during the last bite cycle for us I think
18:02.47NivFreakor within a few seconds afterwards
18:02.51NivFreak(on normal)
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18:03.12steevNivFreak: aside from the fact that he's full on 264, versus me only having 2, him having that neck and the belt
18:03.22steevour gear is quite similar
18:03.29NivFreakhe's a very good player
18:03.35steevi am not :(
18:03.37arkanes_he's frost too
18:03.47NivFreakyea, on that fight he's likely frost
18:03.54NivFreakany tank and spank
18:03.59NivFreakhe swaps between frost and unholy a bit
18:04.12steevwhy frost for tank n spank?
18:04.21NivFreaksee above numbers
18:04.27NivFreak;)
18:04.30steevnone of us dk's can get any decent 1h's
18:04.36NivFreakhe has 2x277 1hers
18:04.40arkanes_frost should scale better with long time on target
18:04.41steevthe only time the 1h dps swords drop
18:04.47arkanes_especially if he's got 277s :P
18:04.52steevwe had a rogue who isn't playing anymore
18:04.58NivFreakhis 2her is 277 too :P
18:05.06steevso many upgrades went to people who have stopped playing
18:05.16NivFreakthat always hurts
18:05.18arkanes_man I look at our WoL and I get pissed off
18:05.30NivFreakwhy?
18:05.32arkanes_I break 10k on my rogue in our 10 man hm group
18:05.43steevour first dbw went to a druid.... who switched his main to be a warrior like 2 weeks later
18:05.48arkanes_and I'm using boots from a 5 man and a frigging non-heroic orcish deathblade for my OH
18:06.08arkanes_and we've still got half our DPS in 25s who can barely touch 8k without a gimmick
18:06.12steevi'd love to get into HM
18:06.24steevwe can't get LK down, half the time, we don't even get time on him in a given week
18:06.35steevsometimes we can get to him near the end of the thursday night raid
18:06.49steevbut.... then no one shows up on mondays
18:06.51MysticalOSsounds almost as bad as my dps set. with 219/226 gear from ulduar. Good think tank set is mostly 277. our instances are bugged, we don't get melee gear
18:07.07arkanes_I'm not even that good
18:07.16MysticalOSevery caster and healer has heroic DFO, we have not had a single DBW drop since the instance came out, our guild still has 0
18:07.20arkanes_I mean, I've been a rogue for a long time and I feel like I'm above average
18:07.36arkanes_but I look at my log reports and I consistently mistime CDs, and don't use tricks enough
18:07.54arkanes_I'm not hitting my optimal DPS by any means
18:08.01NivFreakrogues are also a high dps class
18:08.07arkanes_still
18:08.12MysticalOSwtb ruby sanctum combat logs
18:08.13NivFreakand there are many fights that cater to melee in ICC
18:08.18NivFreaksuch as festergut
18:08.19arkanes_nah
18:08.21NivFreakor saurfang
18:08.23arkanes_fester & saurfang
18:08.26arkanes_thats about it
18:08.41MysticalOSregular PP, for vanish bug, heh. of course doesn't help on heroic
18:08.46NivFreakso find a good comparitive dps fight, in which ranged don't have a gimmic
18:09.04arkanes_marrowgar, sindragosa, putri, lk
18:09.07steevNivFreak: next time you get a chance, mind asking alki what sigil he uses on the bql fight?
18:09.11NivFreaklol
18:09.16NivFreakno, no, no, and no
18:09.23NivFreaksteev: sure, give me 2 secs
18:09.38arkanes_sure an individual can get unlucky on sindragosa
18:09.41arkanes_(except for hunters)
18:09.49NivFreakI said sans-gimmic
18:09.52NivFreakinstability blows
18:09.53NivFreaka lot
18:09.56arkanes_yeah
18:09.56steevsindragosa is a friggin nightmare with our guild
18:10.05arkanes_and if you've got a couple casters who're low thats no big deal
18:10.09arkanes_but all of them?
18:10.21arkanes_princes
18:10.32steevpeople have almost 0 raid awareness
18:10.45steevwe have some people who never top the meters... who do nothing but stare at them
18:10.49arkanes_frigging hate princes hard as melee :(
18:10.50MysticalOSsindragosa we have our ups and down, we might one shot it on heroic one week, and have them forget how to play the next and "that guy" gets the tomb
18:11.05steevMysticalOS: this is all normal 25
18:11.18steevas i said, we can't get paste LK
18:11.24NivFreakLK is a rough fight
18:11.24arkanes_anyone who's not a raidleader who has recount up while they're fighting is Doing It Wrong
18:11.26MysticalOSlol melee on blood princes heroic. we don't even brez them
18:11.34steevi should just suck it up and pay the 20k gold to get HM attuned
18:11.34MysticalOSdead melee=less chaos
18:11.38NivFreakarkanes_: skip that RL part
18:11.57arkanes_NivFreak: well, a RL really should be using a time-to-death mod instead, but recount is an acceptable alternative
18:12.09NivFreakhuh?
18:12.10sbusteev: dk lf guild? :p
18:12.17NivFreakhow does recount provide TTL?
18:12.31arkanes_it doesn't, but it provides average DPS
18:12.35steevsbu: don't tempt me
18:12.45steevalthough really, i mean
18:12.47steevi'm a dk
18:12.55steevwe're a penny a dozen
18:13.06arkanes_tahts why time to death is better, but if yuo know you need 60k raid dps to win and you're doing 50k that you're behind
18:13.08NivFreakWoL live reports will give you everything you need post-fight, I don't find dps within the fight to be useful
18:13.13NivFreakI use a combat timer + TTD
18:13.32steevas long as i don't screw up my opening rotation
18:13.35sbusteev: wtb ;)
18:13.37steevi always get bit first
18:13.42steevon bql
18:13.53steevunless jay gets off a lucky crit before i do
18:13.53NivFreak#3 in threat gets bitten
18:13.57NivFreakyour mages/hunters fail ;)
18:14.02arkanes_I'm not convinved that is true
18:14.04MysticalOSyeah WoL is def much better, although recount can be good too if you actually use more than the dps componant, like showing non trivial, going to damaage taken, and seeing who actually switched.
18:14.07Pneumatus#3 in threat doesnt always get bitten
18:14.08NivFreakit's #3
18:14.14NivFreakI would stake my reputation on it
18:14.15steevarkanes_: based on my analysis, it is
18:14.15Pneumatus#1 after the offtank gets bitten
18:14.16arkanes_I've seen that not be true several times
18:14.19NivFreakPneumatus: no
18:14.23NivFreakit's #3 always
18:14.27NivFreakjust watch the meters
18:14.27arkanes_My personal suspicious is that it's a weighted random
18:14.35steevyeah, we had our offtank get bit first once
18:14.36arkanes_NivFreak: I've seen it not happenb
18:14.36NivFreakit's totally reliable
18:14.41arkanes_maybe for you
18:14.46NivFreaksure, I'm MT
18:14.51NivFreakI have nothing to do but watch it
18:14.52arkanes_we've had a *faded* holy priest get the bite
18:14.54MysticalOSyeah it's a weighted random for sure. a mechanic that just makes sure the odd of healer getting first bite is like .00001
18:14.55NivFreakthat fight is so fucking boring
18:14.57arkanes_he wasn't even on the meter
18:15.04NivFreakarkanes_: it ignores threat suspensions
18:15.06NivFreakmirrors etc
18:15.08steevarkanes_: he was when she started the cast
18:15.12MysticalOSi'd say 3rd in threat has like a 75% chance, 4th maybe 50%, deminishing thereafter?
18:15.13arkanes_NivFreak: well then it's not #3 on the meter
18:15.22arkanes_and no, he wasn't
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18:15.26arkanes_he was never on the meter period
18:15.30NivFreakarkanes_: you'll notice that threat suspensions create grey omen bars
18:15.46arkanes_I had nothing to do except watch it either
18:15.49NivFreakfor mages w/ mirros etc
18:15.52steevi'm gonna have to go with niv, its definitely #3 in meter
18:15.53MysticalOSthreat suspensions still count for the bite though, our mage is usually number 1 on threat and gets biten
18:16.01NivFreakso let me put it this way
18:16.04NivFreakI argued about this
18:16.07MysticalOShe gets a rogue tricks, blows all his CD and mirror image and does like 30ktps
18:16.08NivFreakand to prove my point
18:16.11arkanes_it's certainly not "#3 on the meter"
18:16.13NivFreak(which was that it WAS NOT #3)
18:16.18NivFreakI started watching the meters
18:16.28arkanes_it might be #3 not counting any of the threat modifiers that modify the meter
18:16.32NivFreakI've seen 15+ pulls/kills and it's always #3
18:16.46arkanes_although I'm still unconvinced, because I've *seen* a holy priest get the bite
18:16.59arkanes_NivFreak: 15 is a lot of samples, is it?
18:17.02NivFreakwere they smite spamming or something?
18:17.05arkanes_no
18:17.07NivFreakarkanes_: it's enough
18:17.17MysticalOSit's threat based not damage based
18:17.23NivFreakright
18:17.29MysticalOSwe control who gets bites with mds and tricks even if they do utter crap damage
18:17.31arkanes_NivFreak: if the chances of #3 not being bit is 10%, then you have over a 60% chance of not seeing it in your 15 samples
18:17.35NivFreakbut healing threat being #3 is curious
18:17.38arkanes_NivFreak: so no, it's not nearly enough
18:17.55NivFreakarkanes_: whatever, now you're just being contrary
18:18.04arkanes_no, thats just statistics
18:18.11NivFreakA foreign concept
18:18.17NivFreakplease elaborate
18:18.23MysticalOSit's threat based but not 100%, higher threat means higher chance of being bite but not definite. it's still random, sometimes about 10% of the time i see her bite the second highest threat dps
18:18.33MysticalOSshe can't bite tanks cause they are immune cause of her cleave debuff
18:18.45MysticalOSso technically it's first threat dps, not 3rd threat
18:18.50NivFreakheh
18:18.54NivFreakour OT is never #2
18:18.54MysticalOScause the dps can have higher threat than the tank
18:18.59steevMysticalOS: our ot got bit once
18:19.03NivFreakand the dps behind me, is never bitten
18:19.18steevgranted at the time some retarded mage blinked up next to the tank and got blood mirror
18:19.19arkanes_I've only seen the OT get bit when there was a positioning screwup and someone else got the mirror for a second
18:19.24NivFreaksteev: he says hanged man?
18:19.24MysticalOSher cleave missed him somehow
18:19.31steevNivFreak: thats what i thought
18:19.38NivFreakbut he does swap
18:19.38MysticalOSyeah that's why
18:19.39steevyeah i've stopped swapping out my sigil
18:19.45MysticalOShe wasn't the offtank if blood mirror was on someone else
18:20.01steevi just don't care enough anymore with the guild i'm in, i'm near the top of the meters even though i'm not as geared
18:20.35arkanes_we had a holy pally get bit a few times
18:20.50MysticalOSdid he forget to click off RF after saurfang?
18:20.52arkanes_but he was using RF, even though again he was very low on the threat meter
18:20.53MysticalOSwe had a paladin do that
18:21.03arkanes_he uses it on most fights
18:21.27arkanes_even with RF healing aggro just isn't that much
18:21.38NivFreakwell
18:21.42arkanes_possibly it was counting judment of light or something
18:21.44NivFreakRF + beacon heals on tanks
18:21.47NivFreakis pretty good TPS
18:21.52steevbleh, figures i logged out in my tank gear
18:21.53MysticalOSi don't think it goes by threat at time of pull honestly, i suspect she picks her bite like 2-3 seconds into the pull
18:21.59NivFreakJoL is personal threat i think
18:22.08NivFreakto the person healed
18:22.10arkanes_it's no threat at all anymore
18:22.17MysticalOSi've seen her bite a hunter, that was like 6th on threat at time of bite, but he was highest threat at start of pull
18:22.29arkanes_but possibly the "not quite threat" mechanic they use for her counts it or something
18:22.36NivFreakMysticalOS: from what I've seen, it's right as the bite goes out
18:23.04NivFreakthreat can change pretty fast at those low static values
18:23.12arkanes_if you really wanted to test it, you'd do maybe 100 pulls and keep per-second threat logs
18:23.32arkanes_although threat updates are throttled, and it almost certainly uses your server-side threat so thats not 100% accurate
18:23.38MysticalOSit'll change fast but the top threat doers will still be consistent
18:23.44MysticalOSespecialy when using MDs and tricks on them
18:24.18NivFreakone of our hunters would normally get the bite
18:24.28NivFreakbut we converted him to a holy pally ;)
18:24.36MysticalOSyeah without tricks and MDs it's almost always a hunter or a mage, someone with ridiculous burst aggro
18:24.40NivFreakI think his last kill was 23k
18:24.49NivFreakso he earned his spot
18:24.52MysticalOSwe got a dps whore feral druid that has two rogues and a hunter MD to him
18:24.54MysticalOSon the pull
18:25.00NivFreakmages or our frost DK get it now
18:25.01MysticalOSthen he yells at the tanks if he happens to die
18:25.05MysticalOScause it happens soemtimes
18:25.10arkanes_the time we had the holy priest bit, the hunter we wanted to get it had 2 tricks
18:25.27NivFreakwe don't bother with tricks or MD
18:25.38arkanes_maybe 1 trick actually
18:25.40arkanes_I can't remember
18:25.43arkanes_but still
18:25.50NivFreaksteev: he said he starts with virulence sometimes to make sure he gets bit
18:26.24arkanes_hmm
18:26.34arkanes_maybe the fade was wearing off just as the bite went out
18:26.42NivFreakI'm tellin ya, the fade is ignored
18:26.45NivFreakjust like mirrors
18:26.53arkanes_and it somehow counted the removal of the 90k threat as a threat gain or something
18:26.58arkanes_-90k threat that is
18:27.12NivFreakwell I certainly wouldn't discount blizzard having strange ass bugs
18:27.17arkanes_anyway, it's clearly not a pure threat mechanic
18:27.37arkanes_although equally clearly it correlates strongly with threat
18:28.08arkanes_also ony deep breaths more :)
18:28.12MysticalOSit's a threat/chance mechanic like i said, higher threat means higher probabilty but not certainty. it's a mechanic in place to just reudce the odds of healers getting bite. the odds are probably .00001% but not to say it'd be impossible.
18:29.12NivFreakMysticalOS: I have no idea where you came up with that
18:29.19NivFreakbut I think you're dreaming ;)
18:29.28arkanes_well again
18:29.48NivFreakanyway, time for some lunch
18:29.52arkanes_if it is a weighted mechanic, you'd be likely to never see it not be the #3 in your number of samples
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18:46.22steevFUCK FUCKING FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
18:46.28steevgod damn it
18:46.33steevFIX YOUR FUCKING INSTANCES
18:47.00steevfucking pit of saron, every god damned time tyrannus bugs
18:48.57steevnice, and the paladin who got di'd... got teleported near the entrance
18:51.01Primerhehe
18:51.46PrimerI don't recall ever seeing such a bug
18:55.41steevtyrannus hops down, you attack him, and he jumps back onto rimefang
18:56.00steevit has happened to me every single time i've been in there for the past week at least
18:56.12steevdoesn't matter if i'm healing on my paladin or tanking on my dk
18:56.15steevsame thing every time
18:56.22steevguess maintenance isn't actually
18:56.55steevhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23767614599&sid=1
18:56.59steevfirst one under D&R
18:57.43steevbe nice to NOT get that as my daily instance
18:59.39PrimerI started doing daily heroic again since wanting to gear up my druid's tank set
18:59.58steevi do em just for something to do
19:00.24PrimerI pvp when I'm bored
19:00.48Primerlast night I joined a pre-made, full 15 people for AB's resilient victory achievement
19:00.52Primeror whatever it's called
19:01.03Primerthe one where you overcome a 500 resource deficit
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19:02.12steevi'm alliance, i don't pvp
19:02.16*** mode/#wowace [+v Kemayo] by ChanServ
19:02.35steevi do go in there sometimes with my reported addon enabled so i can at least laugh
19:02.40steevi got called Puritan
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19:03.04steevanother guy told me to "turn on your fucking chat filter"
19:04.03Primerhehehe
19:04.05steevso i pointed him to http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20222
19:04.56PrimerI've always enjoyed pvp
19:04.58steevit *really* gets people going on pvp servers
19:05.09PrimerI'm alliance too, but we do well in our battlegroup
19:05.17steevwhich battlegroup are you in?
19:05.20Primerrampage
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19:05.41steevi always liked that game
19:05.51steevooh Garona
19:05.53PrimerI do the pvp daily every day on my priest. I have all the pvp gear I can get from honor on it
19:05.54steevi have a toon there
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19:06.19PrimerI'd like to arena, but I don't want to be on a set schedule
19:07.12steevwell you have tues-mon
19:07.12vhaarrAllara: please stop fucking around with the target scanning code, it's really broken in AVR now - why don't you just copy bigwigs?
19:08.26Allarathat's why it's an alpha dude
19:09.25PrimerA guildy recently showed me VampArrow. Nice job
19:09.33PrimerAllara: ^^^^^^
19:09.38Allaraprimer: thanks
19:09.57vhaarrAllara: so you don't want bug reports for alpha?
19:10.08AllaraI want constructive bug reports. "Stop fucking with it" is not constructive.
19:10.28Primerit's vhaarr though
19:10.34Primersurely you can't expect more than that?
19:10.39nevcairielyeah, thats his constructive voice
19:10.41AllaraI don't know who he is, sorry
19:11.03TorhalAllara: He gives instructive bug reports. :D
19:14.06Megalonwhen he is unconstructive he beginns to formulate his criticism in meme's
19:17.14vhaarrhey I provided a solution, if that's not constructive I don't know what is
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19:21.07Allarasigh. the new target code is already based off another boss mod (dxe). it needs to be debugged, not replaced.
19:23.01vhaarrbigwigs has never been wrong for me
19:23.11MysticalOSat least you don't get bug reports "my combat log stopped working so boss warnings weren't working, can you fix this?" gee you think?
19:23.13vhaarrAVR is wrong frequently now, basically every pull at least once
19:23.39Matsyyeah
19:23.45MatsyI've had mixed results at Blood Council yesterday
19:24.05Matsyall the positioning seemed off there :*(
19:24.12MysticalOSi've never seen dbm wrong but i also usually have good latency. and i've used target scanning from .1-.5 and all return correct target.
19:24.22AllaraJust to be clear, we're only talking about target detection. It only affects 3 mechanics in the entire instance
19:24.36MysticalOSshock vortex is iffy, he puts it near the player not on them, so the circle will never be accurate there
19:24.39Matsy(I had no knowledge of the previous discussion)
19:24.45AllaraIf "all the positioning is off", that's another issue, likely you're just seeing AVR render weird when you hit a wall
19:24.59MatsyNah, that's not it, actually
19:25.02vhaarrI am talking about lich king pulls for the shadow traps
19:25.07MatsyThere aren't that many walls there. ;o
19:25.11AllaraRight, vhaarr, and that's what needs to be fixed
19:25.22MatsyLK worked fine here :)
19:25.28Shefkivhaarr: AVRE has always been wrong at least once every pull on LK.
19:25.33vhaarrsame here
19:25.35Shefkivhaarr: That's nothing new.
19:25.39vhaarrbigwigs has never been wrong
19:25.42AllaraYes I'm aware of that :p that's what we're trying to solve
19:25.44MatsyThen again
19:25.46MatsyI am using RW2.
19:25.52MysticalOSit's probably what i said matsy, when he targets a player for vortex he doesn't actually put it in center of that players hit box, but like a few yards from them, so the circle, drawn from the center of the players hit box, is not gonna be perfect.
19:26.06MatsyHm, yeah.
19:26.15MatsyGuess it can be a bit random there
19:26.28Zynbossmods overall is a bit wonky on LK atm ; a player can yell out "Shadow Trap on Me!" yet it spawns on someone else
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19:26.38MatsyThe addon was just perfect at Rotface ;D
19:26.46MatsyI was just facerolling that
19:27.19Allaravhaarr: I will look at bigwigs code. if my current stuff can't be made reliable, I'll definitely replace it. The problem is my guild has basically failed at raiding last week
19:27.30MatsyAllara: You're the developer of AVR?
19:27.38Allarano, AVRE. Olog does AVR
19:27.42MatsyOh!
19:27.43MysticalOSi get sat for heroic LK, I rolled the wrong class
19:27.45MatsySo this was about AVRE?
19:27.48Allarayeah
19:27.50Matsy... ah
19:27.54MatsyI don't use that, haha
19:27.57MysticalOSmy guild has two prot warrior main tanks, and well, that doesn't work
19:28.12MatsyRW2 is all I need as a holy paladin
19:28.24MatsyWe're going to start heroics by tomorrow
19:28.44MysticalOSwe don't have 75k HP like a druid, or the EH of argent defender/will of necro, we just get one shot :\ wtb 30% buff so i don't have to sit
19:29.03Matsyhahaha
19:29.11MatsyAD is nice <3
19:30.35AeyanI still remember the burning hate I had for AD early on, hehe.
19:30.41Aeyan"lol, tank died", heh
19:31.05Matsyhahaha
19:31.08MysticalOSwarriors still have terrible EH in comparison to other tanks, and it especially shows on heroic LK.
19:31.13Matsy2 minute cooldown on it
19:31.15Matsyis just epic
19:31.23MysticalOS3% stam buff to vitality was a laughable "fix"
19:33.31steevyay, instructor raz
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19:39.48arkanes_Allara: is there an easy way to manually mess with the camera in AVR so I can try to correct the perpsective when abom driving?
19:40.25Allaraarkanes: hmm, not sure, I don't drive the abom. maybe a good question for olog?
19:40.38arkanes_well you're here and he isn't :P
19:40.44Allarawell I don't know the answer :p
19:40.46arkanes_I'll poke at it later
19:41.06arkanes_but anyway yeah, the abom is taller so everything is rendered all funny
19:41.11AllaraI know he says there are issues when in vehicles, I don't think I've experienced it myself
19:41.23arkanes_its cause your camera moves in a way it cant detect
19:41.24MatsyThough, what kind of AVR warnings would you want to see as an abomination?
19:41.37Allaraah yeah that makes sense. he'd probably have to correct for that by detecting your vehicle
19:42.26arkanes_abom still takes damage so not standing in goo helps
19:42.26arkanes_not sure if AVR detects or can detect slime pools?
19:42.26MatsyWhat can it do about the goo?
19:42.26Allaraarkanes: it can't
19:42.26arkanes_I can not stand in it :P
19:42.27nevcairielyou have to stand in the goo to eat it! :D
19:42.27MatsyThere's no use for it to detect it anyway, they're already like super visible
19:42.35arkanes_goo, not slime!
19:42.39nevcairielall the same
19:42.49Matsysuper large goo pools, all green :+
19:42.59MatsyIf you need AVR for that, that's pretty fail ;p
19:43.03Matsyoh
19:43.04Matsymalleable goo
19:43.06Allarawell we can detect where they are cast, but not their size or whatever
19:43.13Allaraand yeah what matsy said
19:43.17arkanes_where they're cast is handy
19:43.25arkanes_I do it now by watching for the vials to get thrown
19:44.51arkanes_also I'm just kind of nosy and I like to know what nasty green stuff is going where
19:45.20Matsylolol arkanes_
19:48.15arkanes_Allara: would it make sense for AVRE to register for bigwigs own events instead of duplicating event code from another addon?
19:48.34Shefkiarkanes_: The point of AVRE is to be boss mod independent.
19:49.00Allara^^
19:49.04nevcairielboss mod independent is kidna silly to say, its really its own boss mod
19:49.12arkanes_right
19:49.25AllaraWe say it like that because AVR originally required BigWigs to get boss marks
19:49.50arkanes_time for libbossevents!
19:50.03Shefkiarkanes_: That's unlikely to ever happen.
19:50.42arkanes_yeah probably
19:51.41steevmy mod is better than your mod
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20:25.18harlsince when does the ident protocol include the need for icmp packets to be allowed
20:26.22winko_O
20:26.29winkI don't think so
20:29.59steevalways
20:30.07steevident is sent via icmp
20:30.38steevyou're thinking of icmp echo packets, aka ping - which it does not require
20:31.01NivFreakuh
20:31.25NivFreakcrack smoker?
20:31.33NivFreakrfc 1413 :P
20:31.50SunTsuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident
20:32.06steevi know what the rfc is :P
20:32.13steev(sadly)
20:32.41SunTsusteev: then you should know that ident does not use icmp
20:32.43NivFreakwell you haven't read it then ;P
20:32.57winkI get TCP on 113
20:32.59winkas I supposed
20:33.12NivFreak^
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20:33.43winktestso, do I have an ident?
20:33.46steever, okay
20:33.49steevyeah i fail
20:33.52winkyes, and tcpdump was empty
20:34.52winktcpdump even had the proof :P
20:34.53wink# tcpdump -i eth0 dst port 113 and icmp
20:34.53winktcpdump: expression rejects all packets
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20:36.03SunTsuwink: maybe because icmp doesn't have ports :>
20:36.10wink^5
20:37.37steevshush!
20:37.44Megaloni'm in your tubez
20:37.50Megaloneatin your packetz
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20:45.06harli know ident is tcp, but i don't get it either: when i explicitly block all icmp packets by a firewall rule, ident is virtually playing dead. but when i neither allow nor block any icmp, ident works fine, although no icmp packets are getting registered.
20:46.42harlit might be mirc's fault though
20:47.43SunTsuharl: blocking icmp can kill your PMTU discovery
20:49.29harlusually, i only really explicitly block echo requests and also explicitly allow framentation needed and time exceeded
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20:50.52harland leave anything else just come and go on a per-connection basis
20:51.03harlleave=let
20:51.42harlalthough there haven't exactly been many icmp packets anytime, anyway
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21:16.47harlok, so it's not exactly my or mirc's fault, but my router wouldn't correctly map its port 113 to my local port 113
21:16.52harlbrb
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21:17.43harlbetter? yes..
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22:09.51Mileadusdo most ppl use just a simple text editor to make addons or use a program like AddOn Studio?
22:10.14Ac-townvim
22:10.44Ac-townbut really, its up to you
22:11.19Mileaduscuz i'm using AddOn Studio (cuz i'm a n00b, but i figured some stuff out), but i'm wondering if you make a change in the Lua file does it automatticall make the changes in the xml file?
22:11.33Mileaduscuz other wise you'd have to change it manually right?
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22:14.31ArrowmasterClassMileadus: you are better off not using Addon Studio
22:15.24Mileaduseven for a beginner?
22:15.31ArrowmasterClassyes
22:15.35Mileadusoh
22:15.43Mileadusso Vim or Scite ?
22:15.49Mileadusor however it's spelled
22:15.55Ac-townvim is *nix
22:15.57ArrowmasterClassor notepad++
22:16.03Ac-town^ if your on windows
22:16.10Mileadusi am
22:16.16Ac-townnotepad++ is great
22:17.00ArrowmasterClassi used SciTE when i was on windows and Notepad++ is very similar to it
22:18.04Superfly_im using vim even on windows :)
22:18.42ArrowmasterClassi only use vim on a console, i dont really like its gui
22:19.12ArrowmasterClassits too consoley
22:21.29Superfly_yeah im not big fan of gvim, but you can use it like a normal vim anyway
22:23.08Superfly_btw isnt notedpad++ based on scite?
22:23.26Superfly_never tried it yet, but now that you mentioned it, im gonna check it
22:23.55ArrowmasterClasssorta
22:23.57Ac-townArrowmasterClass: console or go home
22:24.49ArrowmasterClassmumbles about wishing mainline Emacs had a GUI mode with proper tabs
22:25.30Ac-townssh+vim, gets stuff done
22:26.48Superfly_how is the performance with wine+wow nowadays?
22:26.54ArrowmasterClassif Emacs had a GUI i liked i'd take the time to learn it since i know its got other features i want
22:27.07ArrowmasterClassSuperfly_: its always been good
22:27.42Ac-townand its been getting better
22:27.48Superfly_do you play wow from linux?
22:27.55Ac-towndue to video driver support
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22:32.08ramozSuperfly_: i do, on one of my computers
22:32.13ramozworks like a charm
22:32.16Repo10old-instance-finder: 03DrKazza * r28 OldInstanceFinder.lua: Final release with Ruby Sanctum
22:33.35Ac-townvent has some issues the last time i tried it
22:33.41Mileadusyou can use Crossover Games for Linux to run WoW
22:34.01Mileadusfor the most part it worked ok, but i had a bit of lag issue with it
22:36.00ArrowmasterClassCrossover Games is Wine
22:37.15Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2627 / (3 files in 3 directories): Ruby Sanctum loot
22:37.15Mileadusyes
22:37.49ArrowmasterClassonly issue i ever really had was the evdev keyrepeat bug that made the running animation look messed up and annoying
22:40.48Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2628 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): Ruby Sanctum loot
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22:58.14steevi use normal wine
22:58.31steevand wow, it works fine, although doesn't seem to utilize both cores properly
22:59.02ArrowmasterClassbecause WoW doesnt
22:59.05steevso the cpu fan kicks in pretty hardcore
22:59.19ArrowmasterClassWoW isnt truely multithreaded
22:59.19Repo10old-instance-finder: 03DrKazza 04v1.0 * r29 : Full release with prettier formatting and added Ruby Sactum
22:59.24steevArrowmasterClass: on my windows dual core and quad core, it utilizes them just fine
22:59.37steevbut in Wine, it shoots once cpu to 100% all the time
22:59.48PrimerAnyone familiar with guildgreet?
22:59.52steevspecially during raids
23:00.27PrimerThe only reason I installed it was so that it could notify me when people leave guild
23:00.56Primerwith the window, not just in chat
23:01.05Primerin chat it's easy to miss
23:01.12Primerwith a nagging window it's not
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23:02.48Primeroh, nm, I just found it
23:05.39HjalteCan anyone tell me how long it is untill May 19, 9:00 -10:30am PT?
23:06.02Fisker18:00 CEST
23:06.12Fiskernub
23:06.22Fiskerwhat are you waiting for anyway?
23:06.33FiskerWe're not getting Frozen Yoghurt at 9AM either way
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23:06.52HjalteI'm a hero owner, according to HTC I don't really get anything.
23:07.29Fiskerhave jnwhiteh do it
23:08.11HjalteI do have a 2.1 rom on it now, but I wouldnt mind an official one.
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23:10.42Fiskerno frozen yoghurt for us though
23:11.43Fiskeri r hoping it leaks though
23:18.07HjalteI'm sure it'll leak soon enough. I'm just hoping it will work on older hardware.
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23:24.29Repo10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r207 / (3 files in 1 directory):
23:24.31RepoFinally fixed a long standing bug where you couldn't export with a nil presence table.
23:25.17AdirelleArrowmasterClass, I'm running WoW in its own X server, using "xset -r 25 -r 38 -r 39 -r 40" to disable key repeat on WSAD (well, technically it is "ZQSD" on a AZERTY keyboard, but the keycodes are the same)
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23:30.58Ac-townWoW is only 32 bit also :(
23:33.52Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta9-18-g43bc38d / (6 files in 5 directories): [+1 commit] Ticket #631: Allow Health and PowerBars to be animated/faded over time.
23:35.28Stanzillayay
23:36.43FiskerTODAY IM USING COMPUTAR
23:38.22arkanes_Fisker: I finally realized who you remind me of
23:38.36ShefkiStanzilla: Was that a yay for the PB4 commit?
23:38.37arkanes_Jeff K!
23:40.07StanzillaShefki: yup!
23:40.50FiskerJeff K?
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23:41.14ShefkiStanzilla: Let me know what you think of it, the animation is a little different than PB3.
23:42.20Fiskerarkanes_
23:42.23Fiskerthen i will troll u
23:42.56Stanzillaok
23:42.56arkanes_Fisker: I'm sure you've googled jeff k by now and realize what a compliment it is
23:43.36Fiskerunles i don't want to :(
23:45.06StanzillaShefki: neat! :o
23:47.21WobWorkarkanes_: Jeff K? is that a StileProject reference?
23:47.40arkanes_nah, he was on SA
23:48.01arkanes_I suppose he might have had some crosslinks on stileproject before it degenerated into nothing but scat porn
23:48.11WobWorkie, three weeks in?
23:48.19arkanes_but what a glorious three weeks!
23:48.36WobWorkI vaugely recall something about hackers, and pulling the cable once they're in, to trap them in the computer
23:48.47WobWorkand putting the end of the cable in a bucket to catch any loose bits

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