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| 00:57.03 | Primer | oh, I actually use the EPGP addon, and I'll be the ML tonight |
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| 01:08.14 | Primer | Ohh someone has commented on my addon...hit reply... |
| 01:08.16 | Primer | nothing... |
| 01:11.09 | Primer | I mean, nothing happens |
| 01:11.24 | Primer | I had to log out and back in, despite the fact that the site thought I was logged in |
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| 01:58.31 | Artimidorus121 | is a fontstring chanagable via a variable? |
| 01:58.44 | Artimidorus121 | Changeable |
| 01:59.01 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r307 FlightHUD.lua: Added the X-53 Touring Rocket. |
| 01:59.03 | Repo | Start work on overlapping pitch indicator. |
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| 02:03.37 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r308 FlightHUD.lua: Fix overlapping pitch indicator. |
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| 02:04.32 | Primer | sigh, my math is all wrong |
| 02:05.23 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:05.48 | Torhal | That Artimidorous dude is beginning to annoy. |
| 02:06.21 | Torhal | Ask a question, get pissed when nobody answers in 10 milliseconds, leave, post on WoWI about how inconsiderate we are...rinse, repeat. |
| 02:08.30 | arkanes | I thought we worked all this out last night |
| 02:08.33 | arkanes | is he doing it again? |
| 02:19.15 | Shefki | Torhal: I helped the guy on Wednesday. |
| 02:19.26 | Shefki | I'll admit my answers were a bit spotty but I was raiding at the time and I told him as much. |
| 02:19.53 | Shefki | He took his questions to private chat and I continued to answer him for a while, but eventuall got distracted and forgot about him. |
| 02:20.17 | Shefki | And I helped him with the very question he had that he complained about not getting help with on WoWI. |
| 02:22.00 | Shefki | And I'm looking at his questions on WoWI now and he's getting told to do exactly what I told him to do on Wednesday. |
| 02:22.28 | Shefki | Which is to use SetHeight and SetWidth along with SetTexCoord to achieve the clipping effect he wanted. |
| 02:23.47 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r309 FlightHUD.lua: Work in progress. |
| 02:33.22 | Torhal | Shefki: Exactly. He wants someone to tell him how to write his AddOn instead of actually using an iota of brain power. |
| 02:33.51 | Torhal | Which, from his apparent lack of understanding of human interaction, isn't very considerable. |
| 02:39.37 | Shefki | Torhal: Yeah he started throwing his code at me in private messages, I didn't have time to work through it for him... |
| 02:40.02 | Shefki | And even if I did I usually don't do that for people. |
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| 02:41.15 | Torhal | I told him a couple of times to read PiL, but I'm pretty sure he ignored it. |
| 02:43.04 | Shefki | I don't think I've ever read PiL, except looking things up by reference. |
| 02:44.29 | Torhal | Well, same here, but you and I both have done code in other languages. |
| 02:49.55 | Lozon | What is Pil? |
| 02:50.29 | Shefki | Programming in Lua |
| 02:50.31 | Shefki | ~pil |
| 02:50.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 02:51.00 | Lozon | Ah, ty. I learned to code Javascript in depth...the "prototypal" train of thought can be applied to lua I guess. |
| 02:52.44 | Shefki | Lozon: You can do classes that way in Lua, you can also do them with metatables. |
| 02:55.26 | Shefki | Actually any language that has functions as first class members you can do that. |
| 03:05.15 | Lozon | Ya, I haven't done much with meta tables...but I have done the "class" stuff. Most of my addons don't require a huge architecture. |
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| 03:06.54 | Artimidorus121 | i need help understanding getglobal() command. getglobal(name) or getglobal(name .. "Texture") gets what exactly |
| 03:11.25 | Arrowmaster | a global variable by that name |
| 03:11.38 | Artimidorus121 | and also do i need to add <Frame name="$parentName" /> or more like change the frame name to be able to get the info |
| 03:11.45 | Arrowmaster | and use _G[name] or _G[name .. "Texture"] instead of getglobal() |
| 03:11.53 | Arrowmaster | its the same thing but getglobal is deprecated |
| 03:11.58 | Artimidorus121 | ok thanks for that tip |
| 03:12.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont mess with xml |
| 03:13.10 | Artimidorus121 | hmmm |
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| 03:15.42 | Artimidorus121 | so a basic use of that _G would be to set a variable so you can change it |
| 03:18.15 | Artimidorus121 | NVM i figured it out i think |
| 03:18.34 | Artimidorus121 | i guess ill see if i did when i test it thanks |
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| 03:43.55 | Artimidorus121 | ok in this exapmle i have found im not sure how to use it _G["MyFrame"] = { [0] = userdata } what would user data be? |
| 03:44.02 | Artimidorus121 | i just dont understand this |
| 03:45.07 | Xinhuan | userdata is something you don't want to touch |
| 03:45.29 | Xinhuan | in fact you can't do anything with it anyway |
| 03:45.45 | Xinhuan | but it must exist for a frame in wow, its used by wow, so don't touch it |
| 03:50.39 | Artimidorus121 | ok so i would leave userdata in that cade |
| 03:51.40 | Artimidorus121 | i have 4 text boxes and 2 textures in a frame how would i using that code chang ethe text boxes from say hi to bye? |
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| 05:07.07 | Artimidorus121 | anyone got a sec to help me understand this error msg i got |
| 05:07.29 | Artimidorus121 | Message: Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:5: attempt to index global 'HPValueText' (a nil value) |
| 05:07.29 | Artimidorus121 | Time: 05/08/10 00:05:28 |
| 05:07.29 | Artimidorus121 | Count: 1 |
| 05:07.29 | Artimidorus121 | Stack: Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:5: in function `SetHPBarValue' |
| 05:07.29 | Artimidorus121 | Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:47: in function <Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:17> |
| 05:07.30 | Artimidorus121 | Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:59: in function `UpdateHPBar' |
| 05:07.30 | Artimidorus121 | Interface\AddOns\MerlinsUI_HPBar\HPBar.lua:69: in function `MerlinsUI_HPBar_OnLoad' |
| 05:07.31 | Artimidorus121 | [string "*:OnLoad"]:1: in function <[string "*:OnLoad"]:1> |
| 05:07.31 | Artimidorus121 | Locals: text = HPBarHolderHPValue { |
| 05:07.32 | Artimidorus121 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.32 | Artimidorus121 | } |
| 05:07.33 | Artimidorus121 | value = 1746 |
| 05:07.33 | Artimidorus121 | (*temporary) = nil |
| 05:08.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> HPValueText[1] |
| 05:08.55 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'HPValueText' (a nil value) |
| 05:09.13 | Arrowmaster | you are trying to access something as a table that doesnt exist |
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| 05:51.31 | Primer | Is there an event for reloading the UI? |
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| 06:03.36 | Antiarc | Don't think so |
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| 06:09.21 | Primer | weird, my PB buff filter stops working when I get in a passenger seat of a chopper |
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| 08:05.16 | sbu | uhm Bibi - could you please move all those images away from the index page? :p its like 1 minute image loading there :/ |
| 08:05.56 | Aeyan | "The only reason why I keep everything on the front page for the moment is because any attempt to split it into multiple pages would dramatically increase the load on the webservers and crash the site." |
| 08:05.59 | Aeyan | =P |
| 08:06.01 | Bibi | and apparently 1 minute isn't enough time to let you read the top of the news post where I explain why everything is still on the front page. |
| 08:06.10 | sbu | uh :) |
| 08:06.24 | sbu | no, i tried to scroll down and failed ;) |
| 08:06.36 | Bibi | my point! |
| 08:06.37 | Bibi | ^^ |
| 08:08.00 | nevcairiel | I'm not going to any of those pages anymore now, until i have my beta access |
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| 08:08.10 | nevcairiel | not letting it be spoiled by Bibi! |
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| 08:20.35 | Chosi | ! |
| 08:21.28 | vhaarr | Bibi: "Screenshots of all the zones are now available", where is thunder bluff? :/ |
| 08:22.38 | vhaarr | great work on the screenshots though, except TB missing :P |
| 08:27.16 | Shefki | vhaarr: There is no more TB |
| 08:27.33 | vhaarr | srsly? |
| 08:27.40 | Shefki | No idea, but made you ask. |
| 08:27.43 | Shefki | lol |
| 08:27.47 | vhaarr | bastard :P |
| 08:27.57 | Shefki | It's somewhat plausable considering the lore. |
| 08:28.10 | vhaarr | it was plausible as well, considering its fragility in the wake of a shattering earthquake |
| 08:28.11 | Bibi | vhaarr |
| 08:28.16 | Bibi | I forgot Mulgore yeah |
| 08:28.19 | Bibi | and Durotar, actually |
| 08:28.20 | Bibi | and Loch Modan |
| 08:28.30 | Bibi | and Winterspring. |
| 08:28.31 | vhaarr | wetlands? |
| 08:28.37 | Bibi | I got the Wetlands |
| 08:28.43 | vhaarr | hinterlands? |
| 08:28.47 | Bibi | got them. |
| 08:28.51 | vhaarr | ghostlands, eversong woods? |
| 08:29.00 | vhaarr | and plaguelands? |
| 08:29.01 | Bibi | TBC, don't care |
| 08:29.04 | Bibi | got them |
| 08:29.07 | vhaarr | really, okay |
| 08:29.17 | Bibi | the worst thing is |
| 08:29.18 | Bibi | they're here |
| 08:29.23 | Bibi | they're just not linked on the front page |
| 08:29.25 | vhaarr | aah |
| 08:29.32 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/mulgore_01.jpg |
| 08:29.44 | vhaarr | ooh |
| 08:29.50 | vhaarr | too bad I can't browse the index |
| 08:29.56 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/mulgore_03.jpg ! |
| 08:30.03 | Bibi | yeah I'm taking it down in an hour or something like that |
| 08:30.10 | Bibi | just need to create all the articles + link properly |
| 08:30.32 | vhaarr | cool |
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| 13:20.16 | yoshimo | why does wow complain about insufficient hardware on my macbook while running windows but not under mac os x? |
| 13:21.15 | Lozon | There is probably some type of emulation which does not facilitate your hardware. |
| 13:21.28 | Lozon | I may be wrong, but would DirectX be completely emulated on a Mac Book? |
| 13:23.17 | arkanes | you're wrong |
| 13:23.58 | arkanes | there's no parocular reason, but perhaps you don't have windows drivers for your graphics card (did you set boot camp up right?) or something similar |
| 13:24.06 | arkanes | does it say what kind of hardware is insufficient? |
| 13:24.41 | yoshimo | no 3d acceleration found or directx missing |
| 13:25.09 | nevcairiel | sounds like the driver you installed doesnt support 3d accel |
| 13:25.13 | nevcairiel | try to run it in opengl mode |
| 13:26.09 | arkanes | boot camp got messed up somehow |
| 13:26.18 | arkanes | there's definitely windows drivers for all the cards in macbooks |
| 13:26.36 | arkanes | what version of windows? |
| 13:26.40 | yoshimo | xp |
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| 13:27.45 | arkanes | hmm |
| 13:27.55 | arkanes | check windows update and see if it has a driver for you |
| 13:28.05 | arkanes | but really it should have just worked :\ |
| 13:28.21 | arkanes | do you have a DirectX folder at the root of your bootcamp partition? |
| 13:30.09 | yoshimo | i dont see any, but dxdiag reports 9.0c |
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| 13:30.27 | arkanes | hmph |
| 13:30.44 | arkanes | did you install wow from scratch, or copy an existing one? |
| 13:31.06 | yoshimo | from scratch i lost my wotlk cd |
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| 13:32.09 | yoshimo | so i used the installwow.exe from the blizzard page |
| 13:32.47 | arkanes | does the dxdiag test work? |
| 13:33.58 | yoshimo | yes |
| 13:34.10 | arkanes | then clearly wow is failing to detect something |
| 13:34.20 | arkanes | check your config.wtf, is hwDetect set to 0? |
| 13:35.06 | yoshimo | it is, but i dont know what that means |
| 13:35.18 | arkanes | try setting it to 1 and re-running wow |
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| 13:35.26 | arkanes | that tells it to do hardware detection |
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| 13:41.36 | arkanes | did bibi get c&ded?! |
| 13:42.12 | nevcairiel | because he put up a empty index.html? :D |
| 13:42.25 | nevcairiel | just add index.php, and it works again |
| 13:42.32 | arkanes | well the other option was that serving up all those images was destroying him |
| 13:42.38 | arkanes | but I figured the c&d was more exciting |
| 14:00.12 | EthanCentaurai | @ping |
| 14:00.41 | EthanCentaurai | ~ping |
| 14:00.41 | purl | ~pong |
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| 14:14.20 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.1-8-g510978b Modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Dear bossmod authors. |
| 14:14.22 | Repo | pong |
| 14:14.42 | EthanCentaurai | bah, Repo fail. |
| 14:15.04 | haste | repo never fails |
| 14:15.08 | haste | it just outsmarted you |
| 14:15.21 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.1-10-g6f3f70d / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 14:15.23 | Repo | 6f3f70d: Position: Option to move the boss frames is now disabled if the boss frames themselves are disabled. |
| 14:15.24 | Repo | 6ba0fcf: Safety check... |
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| 15:45.48 | yoshimo | didnt wow have a statistic about the boss with the most playerkills? |
| 15:46.20 | Kalroth | its not updated that often |
| 15:46.27 | yoshimo | yes but i cant find it |
| 15:46.54 | Kalroth | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/toplist/ ? |
| 15:47.52 | Kalroth | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/gamestats/gamestats.html?en,killedby the EU version, both seem dead though |
| 15:47.58 | Fisker | is that even updated anymore? |
| 15:48.03 | Fisker | yeah i figured |
| 15:48.09 | Fisker | they should integrate that into the armory |
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| 16:03.37 | yoshimo | i love the book in front of archavons vault ;) horde leads on my realm |
| 16:08.15 | koaschten | on my realm it was like 10:1 for horde, then they opened transfers and a shitload of alliance came over, alliance broke even within 4 month |
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| 16:54.57 | Zyn | yoshimo , horde leads my lightyears on my realm, because Alliance are fucking stupid, and there's no hiding from it ... just 100% pure stupid |
| 16:55.04 | Zyn | by* |
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| 17:05.45 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r226 EnsidiaFails.lua: typo fix |
| 17:06.22 | Aens|Superiority | is there an addon that can speed up the updates of health bars? Pitbull I noticed is taking upwards of 2 seconds to update health |
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| 17:11.24 | yoshimo | there was instant health and quickhealth, but i doubt they are working currently |
| 17:12.00 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, I had quickhealth in the past. I went back to my healer and its just annoying at the delay |
| 17:13.21 | yoshimo | some unitframes have quickpolling , i think shadowed unitframes is a bit fastedr |
| 17:14.22 | yoshimo | grid_qh doesnt work with current grid , i read that at ej today |
| 17:26.09 | nevcairiel | frequentUpdates, aka OnUpdate polling, is usually all you need |
| 17:28.02 | yoshimo | i dont know if pitbull is using that, but yes thats what i was talking about |
| 17:31.16 | Lozon | on the topic of health bars updating, I noticed that the health text updates faster than the bar on pitbull. |
| 17:31.32 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, thats what I noticed exactly |
| 17:31.48 | Aens|Superiority | 4k/30k, bar is still reading at nearly full |
| 17:31.51 | Lozon | It may just be the "draw speed" |
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| 17:32.28 | Lozon | Ya, I my unit frames show the difference number, so 4k/30k would be 26000 |
| 17:33.01 | Lozon | I find it helps me make split decisions a little faster when deciding to use penance or not |
| 17:44.36 | yoshimo | are you using the new pb4 or the pb3? |
| 17:44.41 | Lozon | pb4 |
| 17:49.12 | yoshimo | @project pitbull4 |
| 17:49.14 | Repo | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author/Maintainer), vangual (Author), sylvanshadows (Tester), Stanzilla (Ticket Manager), Trillianne (Documenter/Artist). Updated: 28 days ago. Tickets: 144/745 |
| 17:49.39 | yoshimo | im raiding, you might ask shefki about it meanwhile |
| 17:49.50 | Lozon | pb4 is great, i heal with it all the time...do you find the lag is an issue? |
| 17:50.05 | Lozon | lag with the health bar that is? |
| 17:59.03 | yoshimo | we suffer more from brainlag ;) |
| 18:02.24 | Lozon|afk | lmao, ah! |
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| 18:06.41 | yoshimo | i dont think its an issue with current raids, but some people have a different opinion |
| 18:12.24 | Nechckn | Lozon|afk xperl seems to have that same issue. |
| 18:13.20 | yoshimo | why do you think its an issue? |
| 18:13.24 | Nechckn | With the updates being rather slow. Will have to check out the numbers on it to see if they are faster. (Have both installed and change between them right now, was looking at it for someone else) |
| 18:14.41 | Lozon|afk | It doesn't bother me, but the quicker the update the better. When I'm tank healing, I just look at the their deficit health...but for raid healing I rely more on the visual...but we are talking like a tenth of a second different or so. |
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| 18:15.08 | Lozon|afk | Oh well, I'm fine with the functionality.BBL |
| 18:15.13 | Nechckn | See, for xperl it is even more pronounced, at least that is what I found. |
| 18:15.44 | yoshimo | throw suf in the mix and enable fast updates |
| 18:15.59 | Nechckn | No real idea, yet, yoshimo. Just know they used to be like instant. Have not had time to look into it. |
| 18:16.16 | Nechckn | Ah, will try that later tonight and see. |
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| 18:17.27 | yoshimo | i love it, not too many options like pb, but still all i need ;) |
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| 18:34.35 | yoshimo | if one addon inspects a player and gets his talents, is there some kind of cooldown on it? |
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| 20:19.45 | Lozon|afk | yoshimo: about inspecting talents, I know some API calls are limited in the number of times they can be called. For example: GuildRoster() is limited to once every 10 seconds. |
| 20:20.23 | Lozon|afk | One good thing is that the event that this method throws is not limited to once every 10 seconds, though I'm sure that doesn't affect a talent change. |
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| 20:23.22 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r448 modules/ServerNames.lua: fix for the server name shortening in non-english realms |
| 20:25.18 | sylvanaar | i wish i could log into non-us realms |
| 20:26.16 | Gagorian | What's stopping you? |
| 20:26.32 | haste | a non-us account |
| 20:28.45 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 20:29.02 | Gagorian | Well get or borrow one then :p |
| 20:29.11 | sylvanaar | id like to see prat in chinese |
| 20:29.13 | yoshimo | the rest is a small edit to realmlist.wtf |
| 20:29.21 | Xinhuan | install a chinese font |
| 20:29.30 | sylvanaar | thats cheating |
| 20:29.42 | Xinhuan | programming is usually about cheating |
| 20:29.56 | Xinhuan | heck a lot of graphics you see is cheating |
| 20:30.14 | Xinhuan | parallax mapping, bump mapping, etc |
| 20:31.03 | sylvanaar | yes but, i wont have the whole 4 byte per character thing |
| 20:31.33 | sylvanaar | which is my primary interest |
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| 20:50.19 | sylvanaar | boo i logged into my realm and i have no guild anymore, and my friends list is almost empty |
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| 21:19.19 | yoshimo | looks like a hack ;) |
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| 21:39.57 | TNSe | yup Gagorian, more people have confirmed that the ICC buff seems to stick to you for PW:Shield |
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| 21:51.18 | ian_` | is it possible to call a 3rd party api, like a http api in a wow addon? |
| 21:52.41 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 21:54.53 | Gagorian | TNSe: As in a Blizzard bug? |
| 22:11.39 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r449 Prat-3.0.toc: my new server |
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| 22:13.22 | sylvanaar | yoshimo: no, it looks like the guild xfered or something |
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| 22:43.18 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r231 LibFail-1.0.lua: *Fixed bad spell id for 10 man searing light on XT |
| 22:43.20 | Repo | *Redid all the "standing in xxx" fails to have resetting timestamps to hopefully fix bad logic failing people instantly using earlier fight timestamps. |
| 22:43.21 | Repo | *with above logic fix, changed coldflame back to timestamp threshold instead of death threshold. If bug is fixed spam shouldn't be bad. But if it is I'll adjust timestamps or change it back to a death only fail. |
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