| 00:00.04 | NivFreak | arkanes: that's not really true in my experienc e |
| 00:00.09 | NivFreak | at least not messureably so |
| 00:00.15 | arkanes | it's hard to measure stuff |
| 00:00.28 | NivFreak | but it depends on the persons role in that fight |
| 00:00.37 | arkanes | especially if you're doing 10 mans in overgeared content, and if you have a higher or lower raid stack than they "balance" for |
| 00:01.01 | arkanes | when we were doing icc 10 as progression, healing and enrage timers were all close enough that losing 1 person meant a wipe on pretty much every encounter |
| 00:01.08 | NivFreak | I've done every 10man hardmode in wrath, and all without a druid |
| 00:01.09 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:01.13 | NivFreak | ok that's a lie |
| 00:01.15 | NivFreak | I haven't done H-LK |
| 00:01.18 | NivFreak | and don't really care to |
| 00:01.28 | DWSR | Our guild's wiping to him pretty badly. |
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| 00:01.38 | arkanes | our 25 man group can't handle defile |
| 00:01.38 | DWSR | Can't get through Defile phase without someone dying. |
| 00:01.50 | NivFreak | christ, I wrote an addon to get people to stop failing at defile |
| 00:01.50 | arkanes | our best attempt ever was when we managed to kill the 10 people who can't do defile without them killing anyone else |
| 00:01.55 | NivFreak | because we had so many failures |
| 00:02.09 | arkanes | we took the 15 people remaining up and got to p3 |
| 00:02.23 | arkanes | but slowly died cause not enough valk dps :( |
| 00:02.37 | NivFreak | heh |
| 00:02.46 | NivFreak | defile is the only really hard part of that fight |
| 00:02.49 | arkanes | it makes me want to eat my computer, defile goes out and I see a boomkin standing there casting |
| 00:02.55 | NivFreak | but you can learn the pattern and mitgate failure impact |
| 00:03.02 | DWSR | arkanes: We're good, someone always ends up dying though |
| 00:03.03 | arkanes | defile by itself really isn't even that hard |
| 00:03.11 | DWSR | Because someone dropped defile right under the val'kyur. |
| 00:03.13 | NivFreak | defile+valk is when they align |
| 00:03.22 | arkanes | it's the repeated and very unforgiving stack/collapse you need to do to handle both defile and valks |
| 00:03.26 | NivFreak | is, * |
| 00:03.34 | NivFreak | so that said |
| 00:03.40 | NivFreak | another mechanic much harder in 25man |
| 00:03.40 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:03.41 | arkanes | if there was just defile and no valks, or vice versa, it'd be a pretty easy fight |
| 00:04.07 | arkanes | yeah 3 valks instead of 1 makes it more than 3x as hard |
| 00:04.17 | NivFreak | it's more than that |
| 00:04.20 | arkanes | and of course more people in the same size area makes defile more awkward |
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| 00:04.23 | NivFreak | you can more or less spread out for defile in 10man |
| 00:04.48 | arkanes | if you spread out right in 25 there's plenty of room and time to clear away from whoever is going to drop it |
| 00:05.11 | arkanes | to be 100% honest, the "more people less room" thing is mostly psychological |
| 00:05.13 | NivFreak | arkanes: defile #2 |
| 00:05.16 | arkanes | since there's no collision |
| 00:05.28 | NivFreak | you can't spread out with 3 valyks coming in |
| 00:05.48 | arkanes | but it is harder to get more people all moving in the same direction at the same time |
| 00:06.05 | NivFreak | and I disagree with you completely |
| 00:06.10 | NivFreak | re: more people, less room |
| 00:06.15 | arkanes | well, I'm right :P |
| 00:06.16 | DWSR | ^ |
| 00:06.19 | DWSR | No, you're not. |
| 00:06.25 | DWSR | Especially not in regards to defile. |
| 00:06.27 | arkanes | there's no collision in WoW, there's no reason why 25 people take up more room than 10 |
| 00:06.29 | DWSR | It doesn't matter that there's no collision. |
| 00:06.32 | DWSR | YES THERE IS. |
| 00:06.33 | NivFreak | there may not be collision |
| 00:06.36 | NivFreak | but there are SPLASH effects |
| 00:06.39 | arkanes | sure |
| 00:06.41 | NivFreak | and targeted AoEs |
| 00:06.44 | NivFreak | and confalgs |
| 00:06.45 | arkanes | defiles not that though |
| 00:06.46 | NivFreak | conflags* |
| 00:06.51 | NivFreak | defile is only half of the problem |
| 00:07.04 | NivFreak | and if you all stack, the chances of 25 people moving out of it in time to not grow are low |
| 00:07.12 | NivFreak | or at least, lower than 10man |
| 00:07.23 | NivFreak | because once again, in 10man you can be spread out |
| 00:07.38 | NivFreak | there's only 1 valk, so you don't care which direction it goes |
| 00:08.03 | NivFreak | if the entire phase was standing on the platform moving out of defile, it'd be simple |
| 00:08.16 | arkanes | people would still fail at it :\ |
| 00:08.19 | NivFreak | well sure |
| 00:08.23 | NivFreak | there are plenty of failures around |
| 00:08.33 | NivFreak | people stand in fire all the time |
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| 00:14.01 | Repo | 10bloodqueen_avr: 03nivfreak * r4 : Fix svn:externals paths |
| 00:16.28 | Repo | 10defilewhisper: 03nivfreak * r6 : Fix svn:externals paths |
| 00:23.20 | harl | gn8@all |
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| 01:23.36 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss * r27 / (6 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 01:23.38 | Repo | v3.3.3.9 |
| 01:23.39 | Repo | Please help translate. |
| 01:23.40 | Repo | I currently need 5 German, 5 Spanish, and 2 Korean phrases translated from English. |
| 01:23.41 | Repo | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fishwarden/localization/ |
| 01:24.06 | Repo | 10fishwarden: 03x87bliss 04v3.3.3.9 * r28 : Tagging as v3.3.3.9 |
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| 02:48.37 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bloodqueen_avr/. BloodQueen_AVR. nivfreak (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 02:49.22 | Lozon | Where's mine? haha |
| 02:49.32 | Lozon | Is it because I insult EPGP? |
| 02:56.15 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r512 modules/PlayerHealth.lua: |
| 02:56.17 | Repo | - fixed a bug where the player's icons (specifically seen with the party leader icon) would go full alpha when they first appeared instead of the proper alpha value |
| 02:56.28 | Repo | 10epgpwaitlist (experimental): 03nicklozon * r3 EPGPWaitlist.lua: Fixed some logic with updating the raid roster. |
| 02:56.42 | Lozon | Oops, maybe it was that bug I forgot to commit ;) |
| 02:57.36 | Repo | 10pxhud (experimental): 03Parnic * r6 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 02:57.38 | Repo | - added generic method to create a bar. prototyping with the player health bar but it doesn't actually monitor health just yet |
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| 03:48.25 | Artimidorus1211 | Hello |
| 03:48.50 | Artimidorus1211 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.50 | Artimidorus1211 | tex:SetTexCoord(0, 1, 0, 1); still allows it to be resized |
| 03:57.04 | Shefki | Artimidorus1211: Along with using SetTexCoord you have to resize the texture yourself now. |
| 03:57.23 | Shefki | I'm guessing you were using SetTexCoordModifiesRect which is gone now. |
| 03:59.10 | Artimidorus1211 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.05 | Artimidorus1211 | heres the lua code |
| 04:00.06 | Artimidorus1211 | http://codepad.org/SwqmRVZP |
| 04:00.50 | Artimidorus1211 | http://codepad.org/2FdVZXOd aND THE XML CODE IF YOU NEED IT |
| 04:00.51 | Artimidorus1211 | sorry about caps |
| 04:01.42 | Artimidorus1211 | SetTexCoord(0, 1, 0, 1); is what im using |
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| 05:07.39 | Torhal | Shefki: Your avatar is a smartphone media tag. |
| 05:11.11 | Shefki | Torhal: Delayed response. |
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| 05:25.32 | Primer | Shefki: Would you add an option for saving the custom text if I opened a bug for it? |
| 05:26.02 | Primer | Any time I change the text dropdown to a different text, for reference, the custom one I had before becomes empty upon going back |
| 05:26.10 | Torhal | Shefki: Verily. I remember seeing it one in a magazine a few weeks ago and realized it was like your avatar. Just remembered to tell you :) |
| 05:26.34 | Primer | making it so I have to copy it to a separate location first, find the pieces I want, assembling it all, then pasting it back into the custom area |
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| 05:31.24 | Shefki | Primer: The code for the non-custom ones are set in the profile. |
| 05:31.57 | Primer | Shefki: sorry for ever thinking you didn't think of everything |
| 05:31.57 | Shefki | Primer: So when you select a different code from the drop down it's setting the code text. |
| 05:31.59 | Primer | I love you |
| 05:32.28 | Shefki | Eventually I'm gonna make a separate code config and the layouts just be references to the code entries. |
| 05:32.36 | Shefki | So I'm not gonna change anything for now. |
| 05:32.48 | Primer | sounds good |
| 05:38.15 | Shefki | I'll probably do a lot more addon work once cata beta comes out, but right now I'm spending a lot more time doing other things. |
| 05:40.23 | Primer | such as? |
| 05:40.48 | Shefki | Uninteresting RL stuff. |
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| 06:49.29 | orionshock | morning all |
| 06:49.56 | Groktar | banishes orionshock to the pit |
| 06:50.40 | orionshock | :( |
| 06:50.46 | orionshock | cries |
| 06:51.04 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.29 | Groktar | BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE |
| 06:51.34 | orionshock | All i did was give the poor man a cookie |
| 06:52.12 | orionshock | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=301038#post301038 |
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| 07:00.27 | Groktar | after looking at the cata post on mmo i see why blizzard hasn't said more about it |
| 07:00.33 | Groktar | there's really not much to say |
| 07:04.06 | orionshock | bout what? |
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| 07:48.47 | Elkano | Shadowed ping? |
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| 07:54.08 | Shadowed | Elkano what's up |
| 07:54.37 | Elkano | I think EG has a problem with detecting jewelcrafter's enchants |
| 07:54.44 | Shadowed | In what way |
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| 07:59.27 | Elkano | this pugs tank has the +51 stam on cloak but EG says he's MISSING AN ENCHANT |
| 07:59.37 | Shadowed | Er, JCs don't have enchants? |
| 07:59.47 | Shadowed | can you link armory |
| 08:00.23 | Bruners | what is EG and why do you need it |
| 08:00.52 | Wobin | Elitist Group |
| 08:01.00 | Elkano | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&cn=Galton |
| 08:01.33 | Megalon | well, he has no enchant on cloak |
| 08:01.34 | Shadowed | he does't have an enchant Elkano |
| 08:01.50 | Shadowed | 51 STA is the JC gem |
| 08:01.52 | Wobin | Shadowed, Is there any way we can prioritise the order of the equipment checks? |
| 08:01.57 | Shadowed | Wobin in what way |
| 08:02.08 | Wobin | If possible, check tank, then healer, then dps |
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| 08:02.28 | Shadowed | http://elitistarmory.com/eu/mannoroth/galton <-- Elkano |
| 08:02.52 | Shadowed | Ah no Wobin |
| 08:02.58 | Shadowed | you don't actually know that until inspect :P |
| 08:03.03 | Shadowed | and in 5 mans, it's fast enough to not matter |
| 08:03.15 | Wobin | well, you can tell from the party role, can't you? |
| 08:03.29 | Shadowed | and in 5 mans, it's fast enough to not matter! |
| 08:03.57 | Wobin | I just find it slightly annoying to have all the dps checked... |
| 08:04.01 | Wobin | and -then- the tank |
| 08:04.03 | Wobin | meanwhile |
| 08:04.06 | Wobin | the tank has run off |
| 08:04.12 | Wobin | to start pulling |
| 08:04.15 | Wobin | at half health |
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| 08:05.14 | Elkano | oh, ok, blame blizzard ^^ item tooltip said "Enchantment Requires Jewelcrafting" |
| 08:05.23 | Shadowed | Yea it's bad wording |
| 08:06.29 | Elkano | hmm, shadow, you could scan highest HP first ^^ |
| 08:06.41 | Shadowed | As I said, it's not really something I see as being a priority |
| 08:06.46 | Shadowed | and I'm lazy |
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| 08:11.22 | Repo | 10gridstatusrole: 03Greltok * r25 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:11.24 | Repo | Changed role "Caster" to "Ranged". Hunters are now classified as "Ranged" rather than "Melee". |
| 08:23.40 | wink | o_O |
| 08:29.31 | TNZe | lol |
| 08:29.34 | TNZe | srsly |
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| 12:56.32 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r513 modules/CustomCDBar.lua: |
| 12:56.34 | Repo | - fixed maximum duration configuration not working for cooldown bars |
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| 14:03.21 | steev | anyone here play WoW in Wine? |
| 14:09.15 | steev | I cannot for the life of me get any audio output. Sound worked just fine during the installer, and it works fine during winecfg's test sound button, I've tried a few different things, like setting it to use OSS instead of alsa, and starting wine/WoW via padsp but still nadda. |
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| 15:14.36 | Repo | 10arena: 03stolenlegacy * r16 Arena.lua: Modifying click cast settings in the GUI is now possible. |
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| 16:03.46 | Kaelten | NivFreak: approve what? |
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| 16:43.36 | vhaarr | Bibi: care to make a torrent with all the cataclysm screens and upload somewhere? :P and me want Thunder Bluff screenshots! |
| 16:44.09 | Bibi | vhaarr |
| 16:44.15 | Bibi | 1. I don't know how to make a torrent |
| 16:44.31 | Bibi | 2. even if at this point I doubt I can do that, I'd rather stay in control of the source if Blizzard C&D's my ass |
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| 16:44.57 | vhaarr | alright |
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| 16:48.59 | Xinhuan | if i have upload space, perhaps |
| 16:49.05 | NivFreak | Kaelten: ckknight got me |
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| 16:49.15 | Kaelten | kk |
| 16:49.22 | Megalon | azshara seems to be the new pimp area, with pools and golfing ;o |
| 16:49.25 | NivFreak | thanks though :) |
| 16:49.56 | Xinhuan | i am trying to fly to swap of sorrows without the client crashing ;p |
| 16:50.00 | Xinhuan | swamp |
| 16:51.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.1.0-beta2-3-g6132c80 Database (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed the quality of many trainable-only recipes in the Alchemy, Enchanting, Leatherworking, and Tailoring databases. * -> COMMON |
| 16:52.24 | Repo | 10arena: 03stolenlegacy * r17 Arena.lua: Fixed error due to faulty looping |
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| 17:25.03 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r354 Core.lua: RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:25.05 | Repo | - Removed, for now, the feature warning when a Paladin leaves the raid who had a blessing assigned to him. Due to many false positives. |
| 17:30.21 | Killmore | Bibi: WTB more world maps :) :) |
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| 18:52.57 | Killmore | cata streaming http://www.xfire.com/live_video/raistlindlleader/ |
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| 19:22.16 | Pneumatus^ | real deal, or sandboxed Killmore? |
| 19:22.29 | Megalon | a level 1 troll flying around |
| 19:22.35 | Pneumatus^ | sandboxed it is then. |
| 19:26.17 | nevcairiel | i decided to not watch screenshots or videos until i have beta access :D |
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| 19:33.15 | wink | I only looked at the maps |
| 19:33.17 | wink | :P |
| 19:35.13 | Megalon | so it's time to spoil it for you nev! |
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| 19:43.37 | odine | hopefully someone can help me out here.. im working on an addon that uses multiple lua files.. in ingame.lua i use the newaddon("MYADDON") function, then in the oninitialize i use the defaults table to setup my database like normal.. now i need to be able to access these settings in another lua file... i thought that using OUI = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("OUI") [newline] db = OUI.db.profile |
| 19:43.56 | odine | would work, but its telling me db is nul... im not very very experienced with lua/ace3.. is there anyone that can help me here? |
| 19:46.33 | odine | anyone around that can help me? basically tyring to figure out how to load my settings (savedvariables) in other lua files besides the one that creates the ace addon name, table, and options... |
| 19:50.17 | odine | *sigh* |
| 19:50.23 | odine | nobody around? |
| 20:00.14 | Pneumatus^ | wtb eu alpha client :< |
| 20:03.04 | wink | wtb a dead LK |
| 20:05.42 | Kalroth | l2p |
| 20:06.03 | Pneumatus^ | wtb a dead PP also :< |
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| 20:15.44 | wink | Kalroth: on it |
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| 20:29.35 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.259-beta * r355 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 20:29.37 | Repo | - Tagged as beta. |
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| 20:43.43 | odine | ne1 around now that could help me with some acedb stuff? im making a defaults table, defining the savedvariable in my toc and making the options table..but im trying to access those db settings in another lua file other than the one i create the addon name.. how do i do this? |
| 20:44.27 | koaschten | hmm is that just me or is realID requirement for a real name displayed to work a hilariously bad idea? |
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| 20:45.26 | odine | ie: i use config.lua to define my tables and code my ingame programming through interface options, but in other lua files i need to call those settings.. i tried to do OUI = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("OUI") then db = OUI.db.profile but its telling me db is nul.. |
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| 20:50.44 | odine | wow...ok fuck it |
| 20:53.11 | wink | koaschten: yup |
| 20:54.36 | nevcairiel | koaschten_: so is facebook integration, but hey, never wanted to use it anyway =) |
| 20:55.04 | wink | well FB integration can be faked already |
| 20:55.08 | wink | with rss and some apps |
| 20:55.28 | nevcairiel | http://gizmodo.com/5530178/top-ten-reasons-you-should-quit-facebook |
| 20:56.03 | wink | they are all moot |
| 20:56.14 | wink | I basically pipe my twitter into FB and people comment |
| 20:56.25 | nevcairiel | they are not moot |
| 20:56.26 | wink | so much for privacy, it's deliberatly worldreadable |
| 20:56.53 | wink | all 10 do not concern me because there's nothing I'd put on FB that's not seen as worldreadable |
| 20:57.11 | wink | only secret thing on FB is my password |
| 20:57.46 | wink | they're all valid if you use it in other ways than I do |
| 20:59.17 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt even use twitter, all i had to share with the whole world would come out to two posts a year, or so |
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| 21:11.11 | Stanzilla | just spam it with youtube videos! |
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| 22:01.57 | zzzzzor | attn anyone who is here |
| 22:02.40 | zzzzzor | i am looking to have a (simple) mod made and am willing to paypal 5 or 10bux or something |
| 22:03.30 | NivFreak | heh, and what would this simple mod do |
| 22:03.54 | Megalon | I guess something impossible through available API |
| 22:03.58 | zzzzzor | i just need something that changes the power bar color on the player/target blizzard frames |
| 22:04.12 | zzzzzor | some guy made a mod for it like last month but he ended up never updating it |
| 22:04.33 | zzzzzor | i could just do it through a macro but that feels obnoxious to me |
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| 22:12.20 | haste | it shouldn't be outdated by just one month |
| 22:13.34 | Torhal | zzzzzor: There are AddOns that have had zero updates since WoW 1.x that still work as originally intended. |
| 22:13.44 | zzzzzor | well it's not 'outdated' per se but it does not retain the bar color through loading screens |
| 22:14.07 | durcyn | so add in a RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA"). |
| 22:14.16 | durcyn | or whatever the hell it's called these days |
| 22:14.24 | haste | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD would most likely be better |
| 22:16.12 | zzzzzor | hm, actually it already has PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD in there |
| 22:16.43 | zzzzzor | here is the lua http://pastebin.com/kBS9khVg |
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| 22:18.19 | zzzzzor | this looks simpler than i thought actually haha |
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| 22:19.55 | koaschten_ | http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9255/wowscrnshot050610225112.jpg |
| 22:20.01 | koaschten_ | grz tauren paladins? |
| 22:20.32 | zzzzzor | that is ballin as fuck |
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| 22:23.02 | Megalon | how many chevron's do you have to activate to get into halls of origination? ;[ |
| 22:23.18 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 22:23.30 | Fisker | damn |
| 22:23.47 | Fisker | that mount alone wants me wanna race change as soon as possible |
| 22:24.05 | Kalroth | Once a paladin .. |
| 22:31.47 | zzzzzor | hmmm |
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| 22:35.52 | zzzzzor | i think i found a solution to this |
| 22:39.44 | zzzzzor | haste: if i were to add in WORLD_MAP_UPDATE would the change carry over to the player being loaded in? |
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| 22:54.29 | Antiarc | ~seen Olog |
| 22:54.32 | purl | olog <~Olog@cs27088253.pp.htv.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 12h 49m 7s ago, saying: 'I think there was an index somewhere in wowwiki too'. |
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| 23:09.36 | zzzzzor | hey yall, thanks for the encouragement |
| 23:09.52 | zzzzzor | i think i have made this fellas mod work a lot better than he did haha |
| 23:10.40 | zzzzzor | B) |
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| 23:16.27 | zzzzzor | could anyone answer a question for me eheh |
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| 23:41.37 | Torhal | ~asktoask |
| 23:41.37 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:41.44 | Torhal | Bah. He's gone |
| 23:46.34 | durcyn | who cares, he was about twelve. |
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