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00:00.35LozonWhat's the best way for looping through the members of a raid? I WAS using GetNumRaidMembers and GetRaidRosterInfo, but that doesn't work. Should I just loop through 1-40 and check if the returned object is nil?
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01:26.28harlthat stupid guy who told me i should be able to solo kael'thas, he was wrong. kael'thas sucks. like literally. period.
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02:13.40Fiskerharl
02:13.40Fiskeri hate you
02:13.48Fiskerkael'thas is easy to solo btw
02:13.57Fiskerdid it TBC
02:16.16MegalonI think it was THC
02:16.32Megalonwhich you were on when you 'solod' him
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04:37.35Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v489-2-gc2f1026 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
04:37.37Repoc2f1026: Remove color coding on raid announces. Fixes disconnect issues. Putting color
04:37.38Repo35f4c47: Lich King (66): Heroic tweaks
04:38.40Repo10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 04v490 * 6e61475 /: [new tag] Tagging as v490
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04:53.10Repo10arena: 03stolenlegacy * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory):
04:53.12RepoTexture change. Half DR went from "top half opaque" to "left half opaque".
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06:14.53Repo10gridindicatoriconbar: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.3-beta GridIndicatorIconBar.lua: [+1 commit] Added an opacity option.
06:15.00Repo10gridindicatoriconbar: 03Adirelle 04v1.3-beta * 181f141 /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.3-beta".
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08:45.18theoddone33my prediction was that 200 guilds would down HLK this week, but apparently i was really really wrong and it's closer to 9
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08:46.13HjalteFirst week of 15% buff, is it?
08:46.17theoddone33yes
08:46.54HjalteThey still have time, I suppose. They got more tries now as well.
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08:51.37mitch0didum
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09:12.23Adirelle|workwith git repos, is there any drawback to using public URL to pull and developper URL to push ?
09:15.01jnwhitehnot really, no
09:15.09jnwhitehthey're different remotes entirely
09:15.24jnwhitehand considering you can't push to the public URL.. it doesn't gain you anything
09:16.31Adirelle|workactually, for a reason I have yet to identify, svn+ssh connections are way longer to initiate than direct git connections
09:17.02jnwhitehthey are longer, they're non-trivial connections
09:17.31Adirelle|workI think there is an issue with my office network
09:17.38Adirelle|workbecause everything's fine from home
09:18.04Adirelle|workso I'm using the url and pushurl options from git, e.g. one remote but different URLs
09:19.04jnwhitehbut on anything newer than a Pentium II, they shouldn't be noticably slower or faster.
09:19.11jnwhitehwell there's no disadvantage to doing it
09:19.15jnwhitehbut there's certainly no advantage.
09:19.23jnwhitehother than in your very specific (broken) case
09:19.31Adirelle|workwell
09:20.10Adirelle|workactually, even when connecting on local network there is like a 5-seconds-lag on SSH connection
09:20.17Adirelle|workduring key-exchange
09:20.25jnwhitehI don't experience this
09:20.29jnwhitehand either way, that's irrelevant
09:20.31Adirelle|workif I was paranoid, I would suspect man-in-the-middle
09:20.32jnwhitehdo whatever works best for you
09:20.45jnwhitehbut there's no theoretical benefit to doing what you've suggested, which was the question you posed
09:20.52jnwhitehtheoretical or practical
09:21.08jnwhitehif you're concerned about MITM, you have bigger issues and using a non authenticated pull isn't going to save you anything.
09:21.09Adirelle|workyes, I think this is really a local issue because it suddenly appeared on every computer
09:21.23jnwhiteh_REGARDLESS_
09:21.31jnwhitehyou asked if there was a benefit to doing it
09:21.32jnwhitehthere isn't.
09:21.42Adirelle|workno, I asked if there were drawbacks :p
09:21.42jnwhitehexcept in your very limited specific case =)
09:21.48jnwhitehoh
09:21.49jnwhitehthen no.
09:21.51jnwhitehthat's even easier.
09:21.56jnwhitehits just two remotes
09:22.51Adirelle|workok
09:22.52MegalonFisker
09:23.18Adirelle|workI know what would the benifit in my specific case, I just wanted to avoid to shot myself in the foot
09:23.32krkagit resolves some issues regarding MITM though :)
09:24.00krkacan't really change history, git would notice and try to merge instead
09:24.03jnwhitehAdirelle|work: in that case, its a standard way to set things up
09:25.09Adirelle|workand it is technically the same remote from git pov, e.g. the config section looks like this : http://paste.wowace.com/akgph98etuo0i4d3/
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09:25.57harlwuff
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09:27.13Adirelle|workanyway, I'll bug the IT guys about that SSH thing
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09:37.31Adirelle|workhrmf, seems related to pageant
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09:57.22miicais there something like print_r in lua which prints array content?
09:57.52miicabecause I have problems print out table like this "BidList["Offspec"][name] = points;" :D
09:59.51koaschten_http://gizmodo.com/5529540/world-of-warcraft-running-on-ipadstreamed
09:59.53koaschten_tsk
10:00.15koaschten_and again its just a WOAH - > sadface headline because it again is only streaming/remote
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10:57.10LozonWTF is up with setting the "eol-style" to every file?
11:00.37Wobinit's a svn thing
11:00.41Repo10waitlistpro (experimental): 03nicklozon * r5 / (18 files in 7 directories): Complete and major implementation for version 1.0.
11:00.47LozonYa, never had that with GoogleCode.
11:01.15LozonThere's my sloppy over-commented code ;)
11:03.11Wobinwhat makes it pro?
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11:04.03LozonActually, the name of this addon will be EPGPWaitlist. WaitlistPro is another addon I will be working on.
11:12.17koaschtenanyone by chance know why the shadow settings to max tank fps that badly? whats the change that one notch up from not max does do to destroy fps?
11:12.59winkwasn't that the "new shadow" stuff on nvidia?
11:13.07winkwhatever the last change was
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11:18.22koaschtenwhatever it does it just cuts my fps in half :/
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13:01.12steevmeh, someone said my name but it is out of the scrollback buffer
13:01.49quiesensejust respond to a random person
13:08.31steevquiescens: you are entirely correct
13:08.42steevnevcairiel: those were my thoughts
13:09.02steevnevcairiel: also, you might want to chat up leio, i mentioned to him that you play sc2
13:09.10Kalrothsteev: so you DO want to spoon with me?! <3
13:09.23steevKalroth: i <3 cuddling!
13:09.33Kalrothgets all giddy.
13:10.33steevside note
13:10.48steevin the past week, both of our (new) hunters got hacked, as did our main tank
13:11.02harloO
13:11.29steevthe main tank one is kind of funny
13:11.34steevbecause whomever it is/was
13:11.39steevwas on aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall day yesterday
13:11.44steevin ramparts
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13:12.07steevfrom ~3am til i went to bed at around 2:30am
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13:14.18steevi have a shitty gear score on my paladin :(
13:14.37ThiefMastergear score is the most retarded thing wow ever got
13:14.37harlaww..
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13:14.47harlyea
13:14.48steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Worthy&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow
13:14.59steevThiefMaster: no... that is 90% of the user base
13:15.08ThiefMasterthat's also true
13:15.12harlyea
13:15.13ThiefMasterbut that doesn't make gearscore better
13:15.19SunTsusteev: "I got shitty GS and I liked it"
13:15.45steevit will go up cuz i have a belt of the lonely heart, and i'm thinking of grabbing the t9 helm
13:15.47ThiefMasterluckily nobody cares about gs on my realm/faction :p
13:16.53steevand since i just did instances to level from level 75 - 80, i have quests from howling fjord, to ice crown to make money
13:17.12SunTsuThiefMaster: on my realm people care about it, but I don't care about them ;)
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13:18.03steevwell lets see what imba says i can do
13:18.22steevoh snap
13:18.24harlyea, shot it
13:18.26steevall kindsa horribad
13:18.29harlbam
13:19.09steevmissing enchants :( missing crafted sockets
13:19.16steevlow level gems
13:19.22steevoh god, the noob burns
13:19.41steevwhat is the other site like imba
13:19.41SunTsusteev: then, gogo heroics ;)
13:19.49steevSunTsu: no poing in gogo heroics
13:19.54steevall my its are 200 or higher (epics)
13:20.03steevs/its/items/
13:20.28steevmore like gogo icc heroics
13:20.39steevwhich i'm scared to do without guildies
13:20.50SunTsusteev: then it's not shitty ;)
13:21.03steevconsidering i just hit 80 on friday, i'm okay with what i got :P
13:21.41steevi'm also fairly surprised at how easy it is to actually kill stuff as holy
13:21.52steevthe shield slam thingie is awesome
13:22.02steevit crits for ~4k
13:23.17SunTsusteev: I levelled as holy paladin until close to level 50, then I lost my nerves and bought dual specc
13:24.29steevheh
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13:51.11steevhah
13:51.15steevhe's still in ramparts
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14:47.58yoshimothose scammers are funny ;) their translations are so bad, that you have to GUESS what they are trying to say, because it doesnt make any sense ;)
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14:50.18steevhe hasn't responded at all
14:50.31steevduring the 30+ hours he has been on
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16:03.10ckknighthow's everyone doing?
16:03.28renchapjust got a mail about a curse premium subscription
16:03.42renchapis that normal ? i didnt logged on a curse website for more than a year :)
16:04.07yoshimoif you are an addon author, you get premium
16:04.07ckknightare you an author?
16:04.29renchapa long time ago, yes :)
16:04.44renchapand i think Kaelten gave me premium for hosting a mirror a long time ago
16:04.58renchapbut why did this mail arrived now ? :)
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16:05.34ckknightyou probably got comp'd again
16:05.37ckknightmy guess
16:05.45renchap:)
16:08.51Repo10arena: 03stolenlegacy * r9 / (4 files in 1 directory): CC immunity is now in.
16:08.53RepoAnother texture change to lower the opacity of the non-opaque parts (60% to 20%).
16:10.17ulicrenchap: yea, authors get them periodically, I assume as part of a batch process that re-ups the subscription for authors.
16:11.48yoshimoi think it happens each month ulic
16:14.46durcynyeah, it's the best spam i get all month.
16:14.53durcynoh, wait, i don't even use the curse client
16:18.08yoshimoi usually forward more than 50% of my 3 mailaccounts to phishtank :P
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16:34.20nevcairielsteev: your thoughts on what? i must've missed somepart of the conversation there =P
16:35.07nevcairielalso i dont actively play sc2 right now, i wish i could, but i barely have time to code on stuff, and i somehow prefer that over playing still =/
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17:20.56steevnevcairiel: oh it was in response to quiescens saying i should just randomly reply to someone since whomever said something to me had gone out of the scrollback
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17:41.57steevis there a decent addon for setting hotkeys?  i like using the default bar, but trying to figure out which key is what bar is annoying.  something like, click the button, hit the hotkey, hit save, it sets em
17:42.46SunTsusteev: lkb
17:45.05arkanesthe thing bartender uses works as a standalone addon, I think
17:49.06steev@project lkb
17:49.08Reposteev: No project found that matches 'lkb'
17:49.27SunTsusteev: it's libkeybound, iirc
17:49.27steevSunTsu: happen to know what lkb expands to?
17:49.32steevhrm
17:49.40SunTsu@project libkeybound
17:49.41RepoSunTsu: No project found that matches 'libkeybound'
17:49.45SunTsu@project keybound
17:49.46RepoSunTsu: No project found that matches 'keybound'
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17:50.03steevaha
17:50.08steevyeah LibKeyBound-1.0
17:50.46SunTsudamn version
17:51.42SunTsuthere's a separate addon, LibKeyBoundExtra, that can be used to bind macros and spells inside the spellbook
17:51.51steevmeh, not worried about that
17:52.06steevi just want to be able to quickly switch keybinds on my bars
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17:57.34steevnow if i can just figureout how to use it
17:58.41SunTsusteev: /lkb and then point and click
17:59.05steevthe hell
18:02.55steevi must be missing something
18:03.07steevno, it is there
18:03.12steevkicks random stuff
18:04.19steevokay, /lkb, /kb and /libkeybound all give the default /help response
18:04.30steevits definitely in my list of addons, and checked
18:04.59steevand no errors in game
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18:10.58SunTsusteev: try installing KeyBoundExtra-1.0
18:11.22SunTsusteev: it's the one that binds that slash command here
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18:31.56Repo- Fix X-53 Touring Rocket, it is flying only not ground and flying
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18:33.11SunTsusteev: did it work?
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18:44.44steevSunTsu: haven't tried, got sucked into healing a heroic :P
18:46.36steevSunTsu: bah, yeah
18:46.44steevwtf does libkeybound have the slashcommands for then
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18:48.10steevalthough it doesn't seem to be working
18:49.15steevmeh, i give up, ill figure out the buttons sometime when i have a chance to sit and look at the buttons as i try to change em
18:50.38steevahh i see
18:50.54steevthat only allows it to be set via the spellbook/macro ui
18:50.58steevi want to set the bar hotkeys
18:51.07steevbutton, whatever the fuck they are called
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18:54.09zoktaranyone know where in bigwigs u can turn on for example /say Defile on me!
18:54.20zoktaror unbound plague for putri hm
18:54.49SunTsusteev: For me it works, /lkb lets me bind all keys, but maybe it only works because bartender uses lkb
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19:09.29steevSunTsu: maybe?
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19:16.15PrimerAre 10 man ICC normal and heroic on the same lock out?
19:16.22Zynyes
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19:17.01PrimerI guess that makes sense
19:17.15Primerotherwise everyone would have Shadowmourne by now
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19:19.32yoshimodo these fragments drop in 10man heroic as well? ;)
19:19.41groktari didn't think so...
19:20.17yoshimoso what is primer talking about lockouts and shadowmourne?
19:20.24groktaridk
19:20.34groktarhe's nuts?
19:20.40groktarpokes Primer
19:22.40steevthere are at least 5 people with it by now
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19:22.55sbu5? its like 500
19:24.10yoshimoGrid2 Range updated. No range check function returned, this is an error.  
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19:34.36steevsbu: meh, i don't yet which is really f'n annoying
19:34.41steevpeople just stop showing up to raids
19:35.08steevand the most recent thing is new hunter 1 claims he was hacked (and that they moved his toon) but he was on it the day after?
19:35.19steevnew hunter 2 was hacked, but stuff was sold
19:35.29steevso he hasn't been on very often
19:35.52steevmain tank 1 was hacked... and whomever did it... is still on the account and in ramparts
19:36.03steevmain tank 3 just let his sub run out
19:36.22steevhealer 3 just let her sub run out as well (but to be fair, she hasn't really played in at least 2 months)
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20:01.08PrimerI'm talking about the 1000 kills
20:01.14Primerand 25 normal vs. heroic
20:01.36Primerif you were able to run 4 runs per week, you'd get close to the 1000 kills pretty quickly
20:01.51Primerthen the shards from 25 normal vs heroic
20:02.29AeyanThe heroic switch in ICC just toggles the bosses to their hard modes
20:02.39AeyanInstance, lockout and trash remains the same
20:02.42AeyanSo, yeah.
20:07.52steevthe 1000 kills are 10 or 25
20:08.03steevand can be done by farming the trash before the first boss for that matter
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20:11.39sbusteev: gm ticket to disconnect "hacked" tank :p
20:12.51NeoTrondoes shadowmourne require heroic LK kill btw?
20:13.01NivFreakno
20:13.44NeoTronso basically mostly a timesink
20:13.56NivFreakyea, the trials aren't very bad
20:14.00NivFreakmostly it's just the shards
20:14.06NivFreakdeh is at ~30 now
20:14.17NivFreak50 total needed
20:15.27NeoTronI assume at 50 you need to at least kill LK again
20:16.23NivFreakdon't thinks o
20:16.31NivFreakso*
20:16.42NivFreaknope, no need to
20:16.45NivFreakjust turn it in
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20:20.02steevafter you get shadowmourne you get a quest to kill LK
20:20.08steevbut you don't have to do it
20:20.13steev(pays something like 1g?)
20:21.17NivFreakit gives rewards though
20:21.33NivFreaka mount, an item that ports to dalaran, some other stuff
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20:27.05steevoh does it?
20:30.59rikaisighs.
20:31.14rikaiI'm starting to get sick of this crashing issue if i'm using more than like... 5 addons.
20:31.22rikaiBlizzard needs to fix it already :/
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20:43.07Shefkirikai: Crashing issue?  I have way more than 5 addons adn I'm not crashing.
20:43.27DWSR^
20:43.31DWSRI'm using over 9000.
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20:44.34rikaiShefki, its an issue with 64-bit windows and large amounts of memory.
20:44.58rikaiEssentially if you hit a commit size of 2gb, wow crashes, since its not compiled to be large address aware
20:45.17DWSRrikai: You shouldn't be hitting 2gb.
20:45.26DWSREven at Ultra.
20:45.32rikaiDWSR, commit size, not actual memory usage. :)
20:45.39DWSRYes.
20:45.43DWSRYou shouldn't be hitting 2gb.
20:45.44rikaitotal commit size as well, not just wow.
20:45.45DWSREven at Ultra.
20:45.50DWSRYou shouldn't be hitting 2gb.
20:45.51DWSREven at Ultra.
20:46.15DWSRAre you using the new gx engine?
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20:53.19rikaiNew gx engine? I've got all my video setting set to minimum essentially to prevent crashes as much as possible.
20:53.27rikaithis is the issue i'm experiencing: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14133725656&postId=141214148599&sid=1#0
20:54.28pompyi think blizzard needs to fix the issue where randomly wow crashes if you plug a usb headset in, on windows 7
20:55.28rikaiI've really only got a few addons enabled, and it still happens. It's not addon related as it occasionally crashes even with the default ui if i have the video settings cranked up.
20:55.38rikaiAnd its not a memory issue, as i have 12gb. :P
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20:56.20DWSRpompy: That's not WoW's fault. That'll be your computer.
20:57.38pompyhow so?
20:58.20rikaipompy, sounds like buggy audio drivers to me. I dont have that issue.
20:58.47rikaiAnyway, its horribly annoying to have a system i build a couple months ago only able to play wow at minimal settings, when its well capable of handling ultra without issues... >.>
21:03.09AckisI think blizzard needs to fix the issue of wow sucking for me :D
21:04.46TorhalAckis: They fixed it - you quit playing.
21:05.04Ackisouch
21:05.11Ackiswhy do I still hang around here?
21:05.23TorhalAckis: To feel the love.
21:05.32Ackisfrom you? pfft
21:05.46Torhalcackles.
21:07.09Ackischecks to see if he has "Torhal banning power"
21:07.12Ackiscackles.
21:07.12Ackis:D
21:07.16Ackis<3 Torhal
21:07.31TorhalFoof!
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21:29.07Repo6f68d7e: only git versions have problems with qTable() function, but others don't. use simple true false check.
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21:30.30orionshocksee in a recursive function, the code that handles the last element in the list also handles things when it's there is only one element...
21:30.41orionshockthat bug has been in there sense LK came out
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21:41.01Pneumatusso, sc2 on 27th july then
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21:41.29NivFreakthat soon eh?
21:41.38mitchnullgaaarghg
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21:47.40groktarno u r
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21:48.07mitchnullwhat's the point of having at least 3 completely differnt approaches to date handling? (date, DateTime, str[fp]time, probly others...)
21:48.43mitchnullalso, the bloody db drivers can't return proper types
21:48.44mitchnullgah
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21:53.04RepoRaidBuffStatus:
21:53.05Repo- RBS now watches for Soul Stone cool downs and won't say a Soul Stone is missing when no Warlock is off cool down.  It does it by watching combat log and messages from oRA2 and oRA3.
21:53.06Repo- Hopefully fixed the spamming of "Paladin has left the raid and had blessings assigned" when there is a Paladin in group 6-8 and those are ignored.
21:53.07Repo- Vigilance, Earth Shield, Focus Magic and Soul Stone now all show who cast them so you can deduce who is the slacking not having cast it.
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22:32.54koaschtensc2 end of july, so we get a bnet client patch for wow and possible ruby sanctum content patch? http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/P5zo9bT0KXw/emStarCraft-IIem-To-Be-Released-On-July-27th
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22:54.36Fiskerold koaschten
22:54.49koaschtenyo moms old
22:55.52Fiskeri farted koaschten
22:56.20koaschten\o/ fisker has done magic, he made the air smell
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23:12.15orionshockgrrr main server is offline
23:13.30groktarcreeps up behind orionshock's computer
23:13.32groktarwindows me
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23:34.10RepoTagging as 30300-2-Release
23:34.11Repo** Important: the internal format of the \WTF\Account\<account name>\SavedVariables\AllPlayed.lua has changed. AllPlayed will convert the data but not the settings. Please backup your old SavedVariables file. **
23:34.13Repo- Removed Fubar support (use Broker2Fubar)
23:34.14Repo- Use LibQTip instead of TabletLib for main tooltip
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