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| 00:23.03 | vhaarr | kandarz: if you find it/make it, let me know! |
| 00:23.18 | vhaarr | I've been wanting to add a rank for over a year now but zzz |
| 00:23.34 | industrial | Anyone ever tried building lua and luarocks on cygwin? |
| 00:24.17 | industrial | I don't know exactly what packages are needed for it but I am trying and got both to compile so far by installing readline, gcc, make, automate, autoconf and unzip for running luarocks. |
| 00:24.28 | industrial | but; |
| 00:24.48 | industrial | $ luarocks install luasocket |
| 00:24.48 | industrial | Installing http://luarocks.org/repositories/rocks/luasocket-2.0.2-3.src.rock... |
| 00:24.48 | industrial | Archive: /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/Tom/LOCALS~1/Temp/luarocks_luarocks-rock-luasocket-2.0.2-3-9180/luasocket-2.0.2-3.src.rock |
| 00:24.52 | industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.16 | industrial | oh man, pressed ctrl-c there phew -_- |
| 00:25.38 | industrial | I should learn to paste in window 1 in irssi :P |
| 00:25.49 | industrial | https://gist.github.com/f8b81efaa3679ebf2744 |
| 00:25.52 | industrial | this ^ |
| 00:26.56 | industrial | oh, and needed to install wget too |
| 00:28.42 | orionshock | kandarz, vhaarr re: Adding Guild Ranks : http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/guildpanel.aspx |
| 00:28.56 | orionshock | it's ugly addon to look at, but i've used it before and works nicely |
| 00:31.09 | vhaarr | interesting |
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| 00:34.29 | NeoTron | kandarz: back when I shut down my BC guild, I ran a /script to kick everyoneout except me and one other person :P |
| 00:34.32 | NeoTron | was tons of fun |
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| 00:38.21 | Repo | 10nazignome: 03mikk * r15 nazignome.tga: |
| 00:38.34 | Repo | .tga is now 36kb instead of 147kb, and slightly more transparent |
| 00:39.00 | orionshock | lol they let the name stand after all |
| 00:40.18 | Repo | 10nazignome: 03mikk * r16 buffs.lua: |
| 00:40.19 | Repo | - Fix default for "whisper if leader" - it's now ON as it should be |
| 00:40.21 | Repo | - No longer spam results when people leave the raid |
| 00:40.22 | Repo | - Avoid problem with some officers not getting _FINISHED event by tracking timeout locally |
| 00:40.38 | Mikk | orionshock: no. the repo just remains accessible |
| 00:40.47 | Mikk | as if the project hasn't been approved yet |
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| 02:39.05 | ckknight | howdy, Uwey |
| 02:39.09 | Uwey | hi |
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| 02:43.30 | Torhal | Meh. Guess I need to buckle down and set up PB4 again. Ever since nevcairiel changed AceDB to not save certain things, SpartanUI doesn't play well with BT4 anymore. |
| 02:45.27 | Uwey | \msg nickserv help |
| 02:45.47 | ckknight | Uwey: wrong slash. |
| 02:45.55 | ckknight | it's /, not \ |
| 02:46.36 | Uwey | that's what I've been going |
| 02:46.38 | Uwey | doing |
| 02:46.49 | Wobin | \ |
| 02:47.14 | Uwey | \msg nickserv help |
| 02:47.30 | pompy | ... |
| 02:47.43 | Megalon | something is fiskered here |
| 02:49.17 | Uwey | is it just me that cant reg with nickserv? |
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| 02:51.44 | ckknight | Uwey: you are using the wrong slash. |
| 02:52.38 | Torhal | Uwey: You're using \ instead of / |
| 02:53.44 | Uwey | there we go |
| 02:53.49 | Uwey | was still in channel |
| 02:54.03 | Uwey | new client sry |
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| 03:24.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7460 / (3 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Sindragosa: Fix some timer |
| 03:24.12 | Repo | Citadel/LichKing: some stop bar when cave phase(heroic) |
| 03:24.13 | Repo | koKR Update |
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| 03:46.37 | sylvanaar | EXTERMINATE!! |
| 03:49.53 | quiescens | dies. |
| 03:50.16 | Megalon | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8604663.stm |
| 03:52.17 | Megalon | takes quiescens to the airport |
| 03:54.42 | quiescens | ): |
| 04:06.07 | Repo | 10libautoalts (experimental): 03sylvanaar * r9 LibAutoAlts-1.0.lua: fix small typo |
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| 05:05.19 | Torhal | mitch0: Foof? |
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| 05:33.11 | nevcairiel | So blizzard changes their DK design eh |
| 05:33.24 | nevcairiel | dedicated tanking tree |
| 05:33.46 | SunTsu | yay, finally! </sarcasm> |
| 05:34.44 | nevcairiel | The points he lists as reasons didnt bother me personally, but i see how they might |
| 05:35.07 | nevcairiel | But i knew what i signed up for when leveling a DK to be tank ;) |
| 05:35.19 | Zyn | and so cometh the waves of DKs whining about "omg what about Blood DPS? I never been anything else and Frost & Unholy suck because I'm bad!" |
| 05:36.57 | nevcairiel | haha, i like how paladins will be a whole week after the other classes in cataclysm class info |
| 05:39.56 | Torhal | ~weather KLOU |
| 05:42.47 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I understand why they change it, but to me it shakes the appeal of that class. To me it was fun to choose between three tanking trees with different focus each |
| 05:44.57 | nevcairiel | yeah, i played a DK because i liked that design |
| 05:45.11 | nevcairiel | but i'm a blood tank now, and i don't dps |
| 05:45.14 | nevcairiel | so i'm fine :p |
| 05:50.10 | SunTsu | I do have dual specc, so it's a valid point, and it won't change for me anything either, but still I liked it to be free to choose. I still could have been blood and unholy tank specced |
| 05:52.37 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 05:52.53 | quiescens | when I played my dk i tanked as unholy |
| 05:53.02 | quiescens | just because diseases was neat |
| 05:53.03 | quiescens | ~ |
| 05:53.06 | nevcairiel | i tanked unholy in 3.0 until they nerfed it |
| 05:53.16 | quiescens | meh |
| 05:53.22 | nevcairiel | 3.1 with frost, skipped 3.2, 3.3 in blood |
| 05:53.23 | quiescens | relative strengths be damned |
| 05:53.30 | quiescens | i'll play the spec that I like the feel of |
| 05:54.27 | SunTsu | quiescens: I was unholy, too, until I played along a blood tank with worse equipment who survived where I died |
| 05:56.26 | Arrowmaster | wow is always going to be nothing but cookie cutter specs where to play a certain role as a certain class you either spec A/B/C or X/Y/Z and even though youve got room to pick between a few different talents in your major tree the others will always be the same |
| 05:57.20 | Arrowmaster | like how prot warriors always put 5 points in arms (i think its was arms, whatever that 5% crit was in) and never any more and never any less |
| 05:58.40 | quiescens | fury? |
| 05:58.43 | quiescens | iuno |
| 05:58.59 | quiescens | do they? |
| 05:59.04 | Arrowmaster | they used to |
| 05:59.25 | quiescens | I would think points in the armor to ap one would be more worthwhile |
| 06:00.21 | Megalon | there were times without attt ;O |
| 06:00.48 | Arrowmaster | i quit during wrath so i dont know about all the changes |
| 06:00.49 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: at least the DK change wil keep discussions about frost being the tanking tree away from us.. |
| 06:01.35 | quiescens | anyway, crit talent in an unrelated tree is hardly something you could say all tanks would go out of their way to get |
| 06:01.55 | Arrowmaster | the only build i can think of that fell outside of the normal pattern of point placements was the classic warlock 7/21/21+2 |
| 06:02.03 | Arrowmaster | quiescens: they used to in classic and tbc |
| 06:05.38 | quiescens | shrug |
| 06:08.58 | quiescens | i don't know what we're trying to say |
| 06:09.32 | theoddone33 | is it possible to track saurfang's power gains? |
| 06:10.37 | quiescens | are you just saying that there are sometimes free points in the major tree but no wiggle room in the supplementary trees |
| 06:11.05 | SunTsu | quiescens: I think that was his point, yes |
| 06:11.32 | quiescens | but isn't that very often not the case |
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| 06:21.47 | mitch0 | didum |
| 06:22.25 | stolenlegacy | morning |
| 06:25.34 | stolenlegacy | ~announce |
| 06:25.46 | stolenlegacy | or was it alert |
| 06:25.50 | stolenlegacy | wonders |
| 06:34.16 | Repo | 10adicastbar: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0-beta1-2-g0433a27 CastBars.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed some bugs introduced by the possibility to enable/disable bars. |
| 06:38.52 | sylvanaar | they havent done point distibutions in a while - i wonder whats up. probably tax time... |
| 06:39.12 | nevcairiel | new month |
| 06:39.28 | nevcairiel | it always lags at the beginning of the month |
| 06:40.01 | sylvanaar | oh i see |
| 06:40.41 | nevcairiel | they need to recalc the budget, or something |
| 06:40.53 | sylvanaar | they are out of rewards anyways |
| 06:41.04 | sylvanaar | at least for the us |
| 06:42.09 | haste | yay today I managed to type screen -dr main, and not screen -Dr main! |
| 06:43.49 | quiescens | grats |
| 06:43.57 | mitch0 | haste: you should be using tmux by now anyway |
| 06:44.58 | haste | I would if it didn't hate deadkeys |
| 06:44.58 | quiescens | it can't be that hard to log out your other session anyway |
| 06:45.14 | SunTsu | mitch0: tmux is a joke if you have clients with different screen sizes |
| 06:45.22 | haste | actually not SunTsu |
| 06:45.34 | haste | it handles it better than screen, at least to my experience |
| 06:45.56 | haste | but then again, I delayed using it when I noticed the whole deadkeys mess |
| 06:46.11 | SunTsu | haste: it all scales down to the minimal size, which is that much fun if I connect to tmux with my mobile phone |
| 06:46.16 | haste | quiescens: if I knew exactly when I'd have to leave so :p |
| 06:46.40 | haste | SunTsu: I don't have multiple clients on one session |
| 06:46.40 | SunTsu | I end up with all windows being the size of my phone display. /cheer |
| 06:46.43 | quiescens | just kill it now~ |
| 06:46.51 | SunTsu | haste: I do that all the time |
| 06:47.01 | quiescens | me too |
| 06:47.15 | haste | quiescens: you do know what -dr does :p ? |
| 06:47.31 | mitch0 | ah, read up on this deadkey thing. I never used them ;) |
| 06:47.40 | quiescens | um |
| 06:47.48 | haste | or do you want me to kill something else :p ? |
| 06:47.55 | quiescens | you force whatever is already connected to it to detach |
| 06:48.02 | quiescens | and then attach with your current term? |
| 06:48.12 | haste | in a polite manner |
| 06:48.28 | haste | I used to use -Dr because it wouldn't detach on some version |
| 06:48.44 | haste | but it's fixed, and running -Dr now kills my terminal at home |
| 06:48.50 | SunTsu | I use -x all the time |
| 06:48.54 | quiescens | soo |
| 06:49.11 | haste | screen behaves odd with -x :p |
| 06:49.29 | quiescens | what is so very wrong about having used -dr |
| 06:49.34 | SunTsu | haste: No problems here |
| 06:50.08 | haste | I blame putty |
| 06:50.11 | quiescens | the only difference as far as I can tell is that you now have a window somewhere in the world that is logged in and not attached? |
| 06:50.43 | haste | quiescens: no, it's like doing ^A + d at home |
| 06:51.01 | haste | so my terminal and tiling settings around it remain |
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| 06:51.22 | quiescens | eh |
| 06:51.41 | quiescens | ^a, d |
| 06:51.45 | quiescens | is detach isn't it |
| 06:52.04 | quiescens | I don't understand what we're all arguing about ): |
| 06:52.11 | theoddone33 | I use screen -x with putty all the time |
| 06:52.18 | haste | -Dr over -dr ! |
| 06:52.29 | quiescens | I don't understand why its so much of a problem |
| 06:52.47 | haste | because Dr kills my terminal at home, rearranging my desktop |
| 06:52.59 | haste | so I have to arrange it when I get back home |
| 06:53.40 | quiescens | so why can't you just force the thingy to log out |
| 06:53.53 | quiescens | why does it Have to log out at the same time as screen was closed |
| 06:53.56 | quiescens | o.o |
| 06:54.10 | Arrowmaster | what happens to your home terminal when you C-a d |
| 06:54.21 | quiescens | arrowmaster: the world ends |
| 06:54.27 | quiescens | apparantly o.o |
| 06:54.39 | nevcairiel | ends haste's world |
| 06:54.39 | Arrowmaster | i mean does the terminal close or do you go back to a shell? |
| 06:54.46 | haste | I don't know when I have to leave quiescens :p |
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| 06:54.56 | haste | and I'm usually not at my computer when that time comes |
| 06:55.22 | haste | and I honestly cba to detach everytime I move away from it in the morning |
| 06:55.33 | quiescens | arg |
| 06:55.42 | Arrowmaster | haste: answer my question! |
| 06:55.46 | haste | easier to just change the damn reattach habbit! |
| 06:55.53 | quiescens | sense not making~ |
| 06:55.57 | haste | Arrowmaster: it detaches |
| 06:56.08 | haste | if I'm at home that is |
| 06:56.12 | quiescens | whereas if you did -Dr |
| 06:56.28 | quiescens | it would detach, and log out of the parent shell login thing |
| 06:56.29 | quiescens | y |
| 06:56.30 | Arrowmaster | do using -Dr would be like doing C-a d then typing exit at home? |
| 06:56.36 | haste | it kills the terminal screen is running in quiescens |
| 06:56.41 | quiescens | yes |
| 06:56.50 | haste | Arrowmaster: no |
| 06:56.58 | haste | Arrowmaster: -dr is the same as C-a g |
| 06:56.59 | quiescens | it happens to kill the terminal by exiting the parent shell |
| 06:57.00 | haste | d* |
| 06:57.23 | haste | damn qwerty and all it's awkward positions |
| 06:57.35 | Arrowmaster | i know that haste, but i mean -Dr |
| 06:57.43 | quiescens | -Dr also does C-a d |
| 06:57.53 | quiescens | as well as |
| 06:58.03 | quiescens | closing the parent shell or login session or whatever |
| 06:58.09 | Arrowmaster | or are you not running screen from a shell in a terminal but running screen directly in a terminal? |
| 06:58.26 | haste | it's from a shell |
| 06:59.37 | quiescens | I don't understand what the problem is, as far as I can tell what will happen is you go home, there's a terminal open with nothing running in it, and you close said terminal? |
| 06:59.53 | mitch0 | -D also logs out |
| 06:59.54 | haste | when I remember to use -dr :P |
| 07:00.18 | haste | if I use -Dr which is a old habbit it bringd urxvt with it |
| 07:00.25 | quiescens | okay |
| 07:00.28 | haste | brings* |
| 07:00.35 | quiescens | I think I might have an idea what the problem is |
| 07:00.43 | quiescens | 164209 <haste> yay today I managed to type screen -dr main, and not screen -Dr main! |
| 07:00.57 | quiescens | so you.. |
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| 07:01.21 | quiescens | meant to type.. which? |
| 07:01.21 | haste | long ago, screen wasn't able to detach with -dr |
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| 07:01.33 | haste | so I have a old habbit of typing -Dr |
| 07:01.42 | quiescens | so you meant to type -dr |
| 07:01.44 | quiescens | and type -Dr |
| 07:01.47 | quiescens | typed* |
| 07:01.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah i just tested it, opened a new terminal with a shell, typed screen -r irssi-proxy, then did C-a D D |
| 07:01.58 | haste | no, today I managed to type -dr :p |
| 07:01.59 | Arrowmaster | terminal closed |
| 07:02.00 | mitch0 | no, he meant to type -dr and managed to do so (this time) |
| 07:02.27 | quiescens | oh I think I get what the miscommunication is |
| 07:02.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yagra/. YAGRA. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 07:03.02 | quiescens | we thought you were saying it like typing -dr was an accident and you meant to type -Dr |
| 07:03.03 | Shadowed | do we really need another scoring system Adirelle :p |
| 07:03.15 | Fisker | it's a haste |
| 07:03.22 | haste | quiescens: I blame you! :pr |
| 07:03.33 | haste | also, qwerty makes me a sad panda :( |
| 07:03.38 | quiescens | shadowed: we shall flood the market with rating addons so that people won't know what to believe any more |
| 07:03.44 | haste | at least this early |
| 07:03.47 | Adirelle | Shadowed, actually, it is the same rating than gearscore, just less badly coded |
| 07:03.48 | quiescens | silly pandas |
| 07:03.56 | Adirelle | (which wasn't that hard) |
| 07:04.07 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle: so its still just as badly designed? |
| 07:04.22 | nevcairiel | the value of bad or good code cant possiby improve over the evilness in score numbers |
| 07:04.29 | nevcairiel | so your efforts are futile |
| 07:04.38 | mitch0 | the whole concept is wrong imo |
| 07:05.01 | haste | what nevcairiel says is true |
| 07:05.02 | quiescens | shush you, you're a number, not a person |
| 07:05.04 | Arrowmaster | it is, it reminds me of the old AEP rogues used to use that fucking gave points to resistances |
| 07:05.20 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:05.50 | quiescens | resistances could have an equivalent dps value if you operate under the assumption that there is no healing and the rogue will die prior to the target dying |
| 07:05.53 | quiescens | o.o |
| 07:06.10 | nevcairiel | thats some bad assumptions |
| 07:06.23 | haste | huhura sees yous assumption |
| 07:06.33 | haste | stabs some. |
| 07:06.37 | quiescens | dies. |
| 07:06.37 | Adirelle | actually the rating is based on blizzard way to calculate itemlevel |
| 07:06.46 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 07:07.01 | Fisker | haste |
| 07:07.13 | haste | Fisker's a coffee |
| 07:07.15 | Arrowmaster | its no better than just adding the itemlevels up after adjusting for the slot differences |
| 07:07.20 | nevcairiel | itemlevel isnt calculated |
| 07:07.22 | nevcairiel | item level is defined |
| 07:07.28 | quiescens | the problem is, if someone needs an addon to tell them whether someone else's gear is good |
| 07:07.43 | Fisker | i want my fermi today haste |
| 07:07.51 | Shadowed | What nevcairiel said |
| 07:07.58 | nevcairiel | gearscore has the fatal flaw that it doesnt judge gear by quality, just by quantity (itemlevel) |
| 07:07.59 | quiescens | then that someone, probably doesn't know well enough that the gear this someone is using, isn't any use for their intended role |
| 07:08.00 | Shadowed | Item level + quality = stats |
| 07:08.29 | nevcairiel | You can wear the wrong gear, as long as its high item level, and you have a high score |
| 07:08.32 | nevcairiel | how is that useful? |
| 07:08.36 | Shadowed | quiescens not necessarily, at a certain point it's a hassle to find every flaw |
| 07:08.51 | Shadowed | It's a lot easier for people to wear the right gear, but then you have classes who do weird things like Hunters that use INT/STA gems |
| 07:08.52 | nevcairiel | Like, i started moonkin'ing around |
| 07:08.54 | nevcairiel | in my healing gear |
| 07:08.54 | Fisker | gearscored = flawed |
| 07:08.58 | nevcairiel | with a GS of nearly 6000 |
| 07:08.59 | nevcairiel | yet |
| 07:09.01 | nevcairiel | my DPS sucks |
| 07:09.05 | nevcairiel | because its healing gear |
| 07:09.09 | nevcairiel | no hit, way too much haste |
| 07:09.15 | quiescens | you can do alright with healing gear |
| 07:09.18 | quiescens | o.o |
| 07:09.23 | nevcairiel | around 4k or so |
| 07:09.25 | nevcairiel | but sucks still |
| 07:09.32 | nevcairiel | the GS should allow me to do alot more |
| 07:09.35 | Arrowmaster | if this was tbc that would be fucking hillarious |
| 07:09.36 | nevcairiel | if it were moonkin gear |
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| 07:09.50 | Arrowmaster | since moonkin in healing gear would do fucking nothing |
| 07:09.52 | Megalon | yea, ic25 healgear is better for moonkin |
| 07:10.02 | Megalon | then the gear you have when you hit 80, that's true quiescens ;p |
| 07:10.19 | Fisker | pills here |
| 07:10.21 | nevcairiel | i started spending badges on t9 moonkin to get hit and crit |
| 07:10.25 | nevcairiel | so the situation improves :D |
| 07:11.05 | Megalon | yea, not that hard to get hitcapped, sets already have a good chunk of what you need |
| 07:11.16 | quiescens | even without being hit capped |
| 07:11.24 | quiescens | its fairly easy to do respectably well |
| 07:11.28 | quiescens | with just masses of spellpower |
| 07:11.45 | quiescens | druids do better in their healing gear than a lot of the other classes do in their healing gear |
| 07:11.53 | quiescens | since everyone else is like, int stacking lately |
| 07:12.25 | mitch0 | my mage in healing gear surely sucked :P |
| 07:12.41 | quiescens | stabs mitch0 with a block of water. |
| 07:13.02 | Fisker | mitch0 haste Megalon |
| 07:13.05 | Fisker | bam |
| 07:13.32 | stolenlegacy | Fisker Fisker |
| 07:13.48 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt fisker a fisker |
| 07:13.58 | Megalon | you need a LHC for that |
| 07:14.15 | Fisker | i want to sleep |
| 07:14.28 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 07:14.28 | nevcairiel | but the sun is shining! |
| 07:14.39 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:14.58 | quiescens | the sun is always shining, its just a matter of whether something is in the way! |
| 07:15.17 | nevcairiel | no, to conserve energy, it turns itself off when noone would see it anyway! |
| 07:15.35 | SunTsu | now we're going zen |
| 07:15.41 | haste | Fisker: let me know about the noise levels of that beast |
| 07:15.44 | nevcairiel | its all about "green" these days |
| 07:15.56 | Fisker | no! |
| 07:16.06 | haste | I only want a gfx-card that is silent |
| 07:16.10 | Fisker | wow forums pwnt anyway? |
| 07:16.17 | Fisker | get a watercooling solution |
| 07:16.22 | quiescens | just unplug all the fans |
| 07:16.28 | haste | too mich hassle Fisker ! |
| 07:16.45 | haste | I'm sitting at home on my i7, playing chrono trigger! |
| 07:16.45 | quiescens | see, my solution is less hassle |
| 07:16.50 | haste | fucn yeah |
| 07:16.59 | haste | on like one core :p |
| 07:17.16 | quiescens | the solution is to play 4 chrono triggers |
| 07:17.19 | quiescens | at the same time |
| 07:17.22 | haste | bought a PS3 controller yesterday. |
| 07:18.03 | nevcairiel | why would you do that haste |
| 07:18.38 | Fisker | he wants to sacrifice it? |
| 07:18.39 | mitch0 | he's a control freak |
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| 07:25.11 | haste | nevcairiel: because I don't like the XBox one, and I can't really test the rest of the logitech bunch |
| 07:25.34 | haste | nevcairiel: it costs just slightly more than the other wireless controllers anyway :3 |
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| 07:28.58 | haste | oh, and I didn't have to ponder about extra buttons and such |
| 07:29.24 | haste | (even though it was a bitch to configure) |
| 07:31.07 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:31.23 | Fisker | 502's haste |
| 07:32.29 | haste | 501's Fisker |
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| 07:36.09 | Fisker | want to be blown up koaschten ? |
| 07:37.38 | Megalon | koaschtens Fisker up |
| 07:38.38 | Fisker | you wouldn't Megalon |
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| 07:44.30 | Fisker | megafarts Megalon |
| 07:52.57 | Torhal | buys hasta a VLB card. |
| 07:53.05 | Torhal | bah |
| 07:53.09 | Torhal | haste* |
| 07:53.11 | nevcairiel | hasta la hastey! |
| 07:53.14 | Torhal | Heh |
| 07:54.29 | mitch0 | hrmp. solaris is stupid. 16G memory, 12G free, 2G swap in use... |
| 07:54.41 | mitch0 | and lots of page faults... |
| 07:57.20 | Fisker | plants a bomb on Torhal's back |
| 07:57.42 | Fisker | faults mitch0's page |
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| 08:01.48 | haste | Torhal: lol wut? |
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| 08:02.39 | Fisker | haste my friend |
| 08:05.35 | Torhal | haste: Quiet GFX card: VLB, VESA Local Bus |
| 08:06.38 | nevcairiel | didnt it say VESA Loooooong Bus? |
| 08:06.38 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:07.41 | Torhal | nevcairiel: You know, when I opened my 9800GTX, the first thing I thought was "Looks like a fat VLB card." |
| 08:09.58 | haste | Torhal: Voodoo 5 5500 comes to mind |
| 08:10.28 | haste | never had a computer with a VLB bus tho' |
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| 08:10.45 | nevcairiel | did they actually ever release the big voodoo5s? |
| 08:10.51 | haste | yes |
| 08:10.55 | haste | or kinda |
| 08:10.58 | nevcairiel | the one with the external PSU ? :P |
| 08:12.19 | nevcairiel | wtb servers back |
| 08:12.27 | haste | no need! |
| 08:12.50 | haste | they released voodoo 5 5500, but not 6000 |
| 08:13.07 | nevcairiel | all i had was a voodoo2 |
| 08:13.23 | haste | I had voodoo 1, voodoo 3 and voodoo 4! |
| 08:13.25 | nevcairiel | still have it |
| 08:13.32 | Shefki | The 6000 never came out because it was buggy with the Pentium 4 mobos. |
| 08:13.35 | nevcairiel | with the passthrough cable! |
| 08:13.44 | Shefki | They never managed to fix it and so it never came to market. |
| 08:13.58 | nevcairiel | wait, p4? wasnt that kinda before p4s generation? |
| 08:14.04 | haste | p4 is ooooold |
| 08:14.09 | Shefki | It was right as the P4s were brand new. |
| 08:14.11 | haste | so I wouldn't be surprised |
| 08:14.13 | Shefki | Which was the problem. |
| 08:14.37 | nevcairiel | i remember the silly idea of those cpu slots instead of sockets for p2 |
| 08:14.38 | Shefki | The type of people who would be buying such a extreme card (external power supply) would be buying P4.s |
| 08:16.05 | nevcairiel | back then the p4 was that really power hungry beast, was it not? |
| 08:16.42 | nevcairiel | that was still the time when i refused to buy intel |
| 08:17.56 | Shefki | It has problems with power leakage when it came out. |
| 08:18.04 | Fisker | P4 was shit |
| 08:18.08 | haste | I've been toggling between intel and AMD |
| 08:18.18 | nevcairiel | i was amd all up until c2d |
| 08:18.24 | nevcairiel | had a c2d and now an i7 |
| 08:18.36 | Shefki | But yeah back then AMD was my prefered processor. |
| 08:18.38 | haste | I had a AMD 3000+ single core before my i7! |
| 08:18.41 | haste | *raws* |
| 08:18.57 | nevcairiel | i had a 4000+ x64 |
| 08:18.59 | Arrowmaster | 3000+ xp? |
| 08:19.12 | nevcairiel | but still single core |
| 08:19.53 | Fisker | My first computer was P1 i think, second was AMD K6, then the next was P3, then the next again was a Thunderbird, then i continued AMD until Intel released the successor to the netburst on the desktop market |
| 08:19.53 | Arrowmaster | i had an amd athlon xp 3000+ (400mhz fsb version not 333mhz fsb) before my i7 920 |
| 08:20.18 | Fisker | P3 was legendary btw |
| 08:20.29 | Arrowmaster | i think i have a 286 in the attic that was my first pc |
| 08:20.38 | Arrowmaster | 4 color monitor and all |
| 08:21.03 | Arrowmaster | no wait i think my first had a b&w monitor |
| 08:21.05 | Fisker | Before that i had amigas and commodore |
| 08:21.45 | nevcairiel | my first was a monochrome display |
| 08:21.53 | nevcairiel | higher resolution then b/w |
| 08:21.53 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 08:22.05 | nevcairiel | 8086 :d |
| 08:22.11 | orionshock | 4 color display nevcairiel |
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| 08:22.31 | nevcairiel | color displays had even less resolution |
| 08:23.05 | mitch0 | the amber color hercules monitors were kinda nice back then |
| 08:23.17 | mitch0 | better than cga |
| 08:23.19 | nevcairiel | amber color is the monochrome |
| 08:23.45 | mitch0 | there were !amber colored monochrome displays, too. but they sucked (compared to amber) |
| 08:23.59 | nevcairiel | yeah, green |
| 08:24.22 | nevcairiel | 720x350 was the MDA resolution |
| 08:24.45 | nevcairiel | CGA with 4 colors was like 320x200 |
| 08:24.54 | Repo | 10adicastbar: 03Adirelle 04v1.0 * bddcb6b /: [new tag] Tagging as "v1.0". |
| 08:24.56 | Arrowmaster | i was seriously too young to remember the details of my first computer, apparently i did shit like move system executables and replace them with batch files to conditionally do stuff to keep my dad from breaking stuff at such a young age i dont even remember it |
| 08:25.31 | Arrowmaster | has always been an IBM compatible user |
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| 08:27.10 | SunTsu | "Whoa! 40 MB Harddisk! That will last FOREVER!" |
| 08:27.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i always had PCs, never had an amiga or C64 |
| 08:28.38 | haste | needs more compression! |
| 08:28.54 | haste | which took like 24h to do |
| 08:29.02 | nevcairiel | I seriously think how anyone could ever say something like that |
| 08:29.17 | mitch0 | zx spectrum ftw :) |
| 08:29.29 | mitch0 | 48k memory, 3.5MHz :) |
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| 08:29.54 | haste | anyone remember what the theme thingy for windows 3.1x was named? think it was something with night |
| 08:30.20 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: what? the harddisk? |
| 08:30.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:30.30 | nevcairiel | or ram |
| 08:30.53 | nevcairiel | 640k is more then anyone will ever need? |
| 08:31.07 | nevcairiel | tell that to my 8GB! |
| 08:33.02 | krka | nevcairiels 8 GB: 640k is more then anyone will ever need. |
| 08:33.04 | nevcairiel | although rumor has it that the whole thing was just slander |
| 08:33.20 | nevcairiel | and he never actually said it |
| 08:34.11 | SunTsu | I said something like this, but I think it was when adding 200MB HDD to my machine, which had 40MB HDD, which wasn't even full, so it seemed to be real HUGE then |
| 08:35.06 | nevcairiel | until digital pictures and videos appeared :P |
| 08:35.27 | Arrowmaster | i had to correct my teacher last night on that 640k quote when he said 614k |
| 08:35.42 | SunTsu | I couldn't foresee that I would be carrying 16GB around on a thing smaller than my pinkie one day |
| 08:35.57 | Fisker | misquoting celebrities ftw |
| 08:36.12 | nevcairiel | i hope we're all smarter now and dont limit what we would expect from the future |
| 08:37.37 | Fisker | Well what would you expect from stupid journalists? |
| 08:37.45 | nevcairiel | throws his latest raid5 array 20 years into the past |
| 08:37.52 | nevcairiel | they wouldnt know what to do with it! |
| 08:38.00 | Fisker | However contrary to popular belief (i.e. people who are stupid), Bill Gates have never stated 640k would be enough for all time |
| 08:38.04 | Arrowmaster | how big is your latest raid5? |
| 08:38.32 | nevcairiel | 4x2tb for now, designed to be expanded to 8x2 when the space is being used up |
| 08:39.05 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: that holds true for studity, I never limit what stupid things I expect people to do or say in the future :) |
| 08:39.36 | Fisker | enrages |
| 08:39.55 | Torhal | wonders when Fisker will deep breathe more. |
| 08:40.06 | nevcairiel | wtb servers |
| 08:40.08 | Arrowmaster | so 5.45TiB usable? |
| 08:40.12 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:40.21 | nevcairiel | for now |
| 08:40.43 | Arrowmaster | 4.54 TiB usable in my raid6 |
| 08:40.57 | Arrowmaster | using 8x1tb drives |
| 08:41.06 | nevcairiel | i never had any drive die, so i didnt really feel like wasting 2 |
| 08:41.38 | Arrowmaster | brings back the 72% failure rate of WD drives less than 5 years old |
| 08:41.58 | Arrowmaster | mines a raid6 with a hotspare |
| 08:42.01 | nevcairiel | i've had WDs for quite a long time, never an issue for me |
| 08:42.24 | nevcairiel | not one disc failure with any drive i owned |
| 08:42.29 | nevcairiel | unless it was like 10 years old already |
| 08:42.32 | Shefki | nevcairiel: You've been absurdly lucky. |
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| 08:43.28 | nevcairiel | i just make sure to have them cooled properly, and we very rarely have power failures to put stress on them like that |
| 08:43.29 | nevcairiel | so shrug |
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| 08:44.00 | Shefki | How often does the data you have stored change? If you don't have much turn over that could be part of it too. |
| 08:44.22 | nevcairiel | its mostly big file storage, so new stuff gets written, but old stuff rarely changed |
| 08:44.30 | Shefki | Yeah that'll help a lot. |
| 08:44.50 | Shefki | Most of my arrays are turning over every few days. |
| 08:44.59 | Arrowmaster | so i wonder whats going to happen when a 10TB drive comes out yet it only has 9.09TiB, that discrepancy is getting bigger and bigger imho they cant keep this up forever |
| 08:45.03 | Shefki | There's some write once and never change but there's a lot of churn. |
| 08:45.16 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: thats why they force everyone to use TiB now |
| 08:45.43 | Arrowmaster | since when? |
| 08:46.04 | Arrowmaster | no drive manufacture is using TiB that i know of |
| 08:46.06 | nevcairiel | the drives remain TB, but software is supposed to use TiB now when it refers to 1024base |
| 08:46.24 | nevcairiel | Isnt ubuntu even changing over to base 10? |
| 08:46.32 | Arrowmaster | yes, fucking stupid |
| 08:46.45 | Arrowmaster | following apple with being fucking retards |
| 08:47.12 | nevcairiel | although the 4kb sectors will give us "free" capacity increase in the range of i think 5-10% it was |
| 08:47.37 | Arrowmaster | wait are SSD's in GB or GiB? |
| 08:47.45 | Shefki | I don't think Apple making that change is really retarded. It just brings their display in line with the hardware. |
| 08:47.46 | nevcairiel | GB i would've thought |
| 08:47.51 | Arrowmaster | since all flash is base2 |
| 08:48.37 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: which hardware? the harddrives or the portable thumb drives? because one is always going to be wrong! |
| 08:48.55 | Arrowmaster | flash based memory is always in base2, ALWAYS! |
| 08:49.01 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Harddrives. |
| 08:49.32 | nevcairiel | yeah thumb drives are accurate in their display |
| 08:49.34 | Arrowmaster | right so now apple displays flash drives as the wrong size |
| 08:50.00 | Arrowmaster | do any harddrive manufactures also make thumb drives? |
| 08:50.07 | Shefki | I'd imagine SSDs are marketed in base 10 to be comparable to their spinning media competitors. |
| 08:50.11 | orionshock | funny thing is that it's a difference in usage of the nomenclature |
| 08:50.23 | Arrowmaster | imho that could be a loop hole to sue them into using the same damn measurements |
| 08:50.36 | nevcairiel | as long as they use GB and GiB its fine |
| 08:50.53 | Shefki | Apparently from what I can find most flash memory is labeled for sale in base 10. |
| 08:50.59 | Arrowmaster | my flash drives say GB on them |
| 08:51.15 | nevcairiel | so do mine |
| 08:51.17 | Megalon | SSD are GB |
| 08:51.32 | Arrowmaster | nobody outside of the opensource world uses GiB that i can find |
| 08:52.05 | Arrowmaster | ive only ever seen GiB used in software come from opensource software |
| 08:52.18 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html |
| 08:52.20 | Shefki | You're nuts. |
| 08:52.36 | Shefki | Anyone that cares about being precise uses GiB |
| 08:52.55 | Shefki | Note the date on that too. |
| 08:53.10 | Arrowmaster | yes i know all out the history |
| 08:53.45 | Arrowmaster | find me some closed source software that used a XiB abbreviation in it instead of XB |
| 08:53.52 | Arrowmaster | I DARE YOU |
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| 08:55.03 | Repo | 10questpointer: 03Torhal 07master * v5-1-gcfb6dae QuestPointer.lua: [+1 commit] Don't grab a new POI if the player is a ghost, so TomTom's corpse arrow will function as intended. |
| 08:56.32 | Arrowmaster | IM WAITING |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | hey naxx weekly |
| 08:57.06 | nevcairiel | goes earning badges |
| 08:57.10 | Fisker | no ulduar weekly |
| 08:57.30 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: http://my.opera.com/PH%60/blog/wot-for-opera-introducing-persistent-storage |
| 08:57.34 | Megalon | hey bwl weekly |
| 08:57.36 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Note the KiB on that page. |
| 08:57.40 | Shefki | Opera is closed source. |
| 08:57.55 | Arrowmaster | cheater |
| 08:58.06 | Shefki | How did I cheat? |
| 08:58.06 | Fisker | Shefki |
| 08:58.10 | nevcairiel | thats a blog |
| 08:58.10 | Fisker | stop supporting terrorists |
| 08:58.15 | nevcairiel | is that actually in the software? |
| 08:58.33 | Arrowmaster | and yeah nevcairiel is right |
| 08:59.13 | Arrowmaster | but opera is probably one of the few closed source programs developed by people that work so closely with the opensource world |
| 08:59.51 | Megalon | http://www.opera.com/browser/download/ |
| 08:59.55 | Megalon | # |
| 08:59.55 | Megalon | # International12.4 MB |
| 08:59.56 | Megalon | :7 |
| 09:00.26 | Arrowmaster | firefox page info window even uses KB instead of KiB |
| 09:00.35 | Arrowmaster | 34.76 KB (35,598 bytes) |
| 09:00.40 | Arrowmaster | bad mozilla |
| 09:04.03 | Megalon | chrome taskmanager also uses K |
| 09:04.05 | Megalon | bad chrome ;7 |
| 09:06.06 | Arrowmaster | is ubuntu shipping firefox or a rebranded firefox currently? |
| 09:06.20 | haste | firefox probably |
| 09:06.31 | Arrowmaster | guess they are going to have to stop |
| 09:06.44 | haste | also, ffffu getting new students before lunch |
| 09:07.14 | Arrowmaster | otherwise they will have to patch it to meet their new unit standards, but they arent allowed to patch it |
| 09:08.08 | haste | they'll probably fix that, as they want to make the change across the board |
| 09:08.17 | haste | even if they have to ship a rebranded version instead |
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| 09:08.59 | Arrowmaster | if they try to fix it without rebranding i will personally bring it to mozillas attention and try to convince them to force ubuntu to rebrand it |
| 09:09.40 | haste | I have no idea how ubuntu usually works with upstream |
| 09:09.53 | Arrowmaster | they dont |
| 09:10.05 | Arrowmaster | ubuntu is like how redhat used to be |
| 09:10.26 | Arrowmaster | patch everything and piss off every single upstream |
| 09:10.34 | Repo | 10questpointer: 03Torhal 07master * v5-2-ged4fc14 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Moved the UnitIsGhost check to the AutoTomTom() function so POIs will still be generated on the minimap. |
| 09:11.02 | haste | which reminds me... I have a gnutls patch I should push upstream |
| 09:11.53 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Good luck with that. |
| 09:19.08 | Shot_ | weekly maintenance friends list fail :( |
| 09:26.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r7461 Sounds (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 09:26.08 | Repo | high quality sounds for the super emphasize audio countdown submitted by Meldryn |
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| 09:33.42 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Well I can't find a closed source software that's using the binary prefixes. |
| 09:34.14 | Shefki | I can find a lot of people using them on websites but I can't find any software that's actually using them that's closed source yet. |
| 09:34.22 | Arrowmaster | see |
| 09:35.47 | mitch0 | shefki: I can write one for you :) |
| 09:35.58 | Shefki | mitch0: lol |
| 09:36.18 | mitch0 | with the most draconian EULA if you wish |
| 09:37.01 | Shefki | I think probably the biggest hold up is that Microsoft hasn't done anything. |
| 09:37.31 | mitch0 | actually, nobody really cares enough ;) |
| 09:38.03 | Shefki | mitch0: Tell that to the hardware manufacturers who got sued. |
| 09:39.34 | nevcairiel | the US needs better laws |
| 09:39.45 | nevcairiel | sueing everybody for everything is stupid :P |
| 09:40.11 | nevcairiel | i got this hdd, and it said 1000gb, but i only have 931 now |
| 09:40.12 | nevcairiel | i sue you |
| 09:41.49 | nevcairiel | although its not wrong, it actually is 1000 GB |
| 09:41.56 | nevcairiel | should rather sue MS for showing 931 GB not GIB :P |
| 09:41.58 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: dou you know "Weird" Al Yankovich's "I'll sue ya"? |
| 09:42.11 | Fisker | hahahahahaste |
| 09:42.24 | Fisker | i want my fermi :( |
| 09:42.27 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: And you're wrong about flash it's labeled in base 10. "** 1 gigabyte (GB) = 1 billion bytes. Some capacity not available for data storage." |
| 09:45.41 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 09:46.07 | Arrowmaster | my 16GB drive shows 14.95GiB in gparted (fucker isnt mounting right now for some reason) |
| 09:46.07 | Torhal | mitch0: Fix Bazooka! |
| 09:46.09 | Torhal | :D |
| 09:46.30 | Arrowmaster | 16GB = 14.901GiB |
| 09:46.33 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck |
| 09:46.37 | mitch0 | torhal? |
| 09:46.39 | Torhal | mitch0: Max bar width is 1600, and nevcariel has recently made Ace3 respect programmed boundaries - so I can't type a value in and make it work. |
| 09:46.59 | mitch0 | meh |
| 09:48.42 | Shefki | Torhal: He did? |
| 09:48.44 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: so yeah you are right on the flash even though it makes no sense at all because afaik they were forced to use powers of 2 for flash drive size |
| 09:49.11 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: They got sued and did the same thing the hard drive people did. Put crap tons of legal language to explain it. |
| 09:49.30 | Arrowmaster | yet it seems my flash drives are slightly larger than powers of 2, my 8GB is really 8.2GB or 7.66 GiB |
| 09:49.44 | Arrowmaster | what did they originally use? |
| 09:50.00 | mitch0 | torhal: open a ticket, my svn access br0ke from work |
| 09:50.09 | Shefki | As far as I know they've always used base 10, they just didn't bother to say that they were. |
| 09:50.45 | mitch0 | torhal: do you have a "free" bar with that width? |
| 09:50.48 | Arrowmaster | my 256KB and 512KB drives have been formated for use as debian boot installers so only 256KB even shows as available on them |
| 09:50.59 | Torhal | mitch0: Yah, he did. I was all happy since I could remove code that ensured the boundaries were obeyed...then Bazooka reared up and said "Your bars aren't wide enough! MUAHAHAH!" |
| 09:51.16 | Torhal | mitch0: Free? |
| 09:51.29 | mitch0 | as in, not attached to top/bottom |
| 09:51.44 | Shefki | Hmm I'm gonna have some unhappy people now that it's respecting the range. |
| 09:52.03 | Torhal | Yah - I have three at the bottom and the middle one isn't wide enough somehow. |
| 09:52.33 | mitch0 | but are they all attached to the bottom? |
| 09:53.08 | Torhal | Bars is, bar2 is above it, bar one above it |
| 09:53.19 | Torhal | s/Bars/Bar3/ |
| 09:53.35 | mitch0 | torhal: attach bar2 and bar1 to bottom, too |
| 09:53.48 | mitch0 | then mess around with the order if it mixes up |
| 09:54.00 | mitch0 | (drag them to correct place) |
| 09:57.30 | mitch0 | did it work? |
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| 10:06.31 | mitch0 | actually, you can alt-drag the bar to change the attach mode (from free to attached or vice versa) |
| 10:06.50 | quiescens | moo |
| 10:10.11 | mitch0 | wanders off |
| 10:10.29 | quiescens | trips mitch0 |
| 10:19.11 | Fisker | mitch0 |
| 10:19.12 | Fisker | bam |
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| 10:33.38 | Adirelle | did anyone succeed in loading SSH keys at login using gnome with ubuntu (karmic) ? |
| 10:33.52 | Adirelle | i still have to load them using ssh-add |
| 10:35.21 | SunTsu | Adirelle: start ssh-keyagent |
| 10:36.58 | haste | isn't it named ssh-agent |
| 10:37.14 | SunTsu | haste: er, yeah, it is |
| 10:39.44 | SunTsu | afaik it is started per default, so all you have to do is starting "ssh-add </dev/null" during gnome startup to get pingentry dialog |
| 10:40.27 | haste | ffffuuuu |
| 10:40.34 | haste | network died here |
| 10:40.36 | Repo | 10simple-hud (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r5 / (3 files in 3 directories): Three days of work on the target module finally pay off. |
| 10:40.38 | Repo | Found a reliable way of hiding/showing (to the user) the TargetFrame in combat. |
| 10:40.45 | haste | or at least the squid proxy |
| 10:41.07 | stolenlegacy | finally, secure frames are a bitch |
| 10:41.28 | haste | how can you use three days on that :p ? |
| 10:42.00 | stolenlegacy | TargetFrame is protected- Show/Hide can't be called in combat |
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| 10:42.09 | stolenlegacy | took me a while to find a way of hiding it "to the user" |
| 10:42.19 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle: does ubuntu not use seahorse in its gnome? |
| 10:42.21 | Shot | move it off the screen? |
| 10:42.26 | haste | why do you have to do it in combaf? |
| 10:42.29 | stolenlegacy | Shot: can't move protected frames |
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| 10:42.33 | Shot | booo |
| 10:42.56 | stolenlegacy | haste: my addon provides an improved target frame - the user can select whether to show only for enemy, only for friendly, for all targets, etc |
| 10:42.58 | stolenlegacy | you get the idea |
| 10:43.13 | haste | also, hi2u 2min ssh lag |
| 10:43.17 | haste | or more |
| 10:43.44 | stolenlegacy | so i tried hiding all its children with a loop |
| 10:44.08 | stolenlegacy | problem: blizzard isn't intelligent enough to parent all the targetframe's textures to the targetframe itself |
| 10:44.29 | sbu | @describe simple-hud |
| 10:44.43 | Repo | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/simple-hud/. SimpleHUD. A simple plugin-based HUD |
| 10:45.16 | sbu | wtf is this stolenlegacy! :o |
| 10:45.34 | stolenlegacy | sbu: A simple plugin-based HUD |
| 10:45.35 | stolenlegacy | :) |
| 10:45.40 | stolenlegacy | yes, the screen sucks |
| 10:45.44 | stolenlegacy | s/screen/screenshot/ |
| 10:45.58 | stolenlegacy | besides, work in progress is work in progress |
| 10:46.07 | sbu | yea, right :p |
| 10:46.18 | sbu | so you can display huge icons! |
| 10:47.26 | stolenlegacy | sbu: plus, that screenshot is quite outdated already |
| 10:47.49 | stolenlegacy | the icons are the "rotation" plugin that'll come with the main addon |
| 10:47.57 | stolenlegacy | and that's about 400% the default size |
| 10:47.57 | stolenlegacy | :P |
| 10:48.20 | stolenlegacy | reminds me that i should probably upload a new screenshot |
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| 10:52.48 | haste | stolenlegacy: can't you solve that with a simple state header :p ? |
| 10:53.04 | stolenlegacy | haste what how where |
| 10:53.32 | stolenlegacy | don't tell me there is an attribute for SecureUnitButtonTemplate that specifies when to show *facepalm* |
| 10:53.33 | haste | for the farget toggling |
| 10:53.50 | haste | there's the visibility attribute you can toggle |
| 10:54.02 | haste | dunno how well it works with blizzard's frames tho' |
| 10:54.09 | stolenlegacy | is there any documentation on that? |
| 10:54.13 | stolenlegacy | couldn't find any |
| 10:54.16 | haste | no, not really |
| 10:54.19 | stolenlegacy | sigh |
| 10:54.23 | stolenlegacy | then i'll keep my solution |
| 10:54.26 | haste | take a look at how the 1.4 branch of oUF uses it |
| 10:54.30 | stolenlegacy | which works flawlessly so far |
| 10:54.53 | haste | I would tive you a link, but the squid proxy isn't resolving DNS here atm |
| 10:55.00 | haste | give* |
| 10:55.06 | stolenlegacy | plus, my solution allows me to use any condition |
| 10:55.10 | stolenlegacy | instead of only pre-defined ones |
| 10:55.19 | haste | so does visibility toggle p |
| 10:55.27 | stolenlegacy | hmm |
| 10:55.33 | stolenlegacy | doesn't make sense then |
| 10:55.41 | haste | you can set it to show-hide based on your conditions |
| 10:56.40 | stolenlegacy | the very reason that protected unit frames aren't show/hideable is so that addons can't just, for example, stack a unit frame for every unitid on top of each other, then hide all of them except for the selected target, then have the user use a mouseover macro to cast the spell |
| 10:56.42 | stolenlegacy | with the addon targetting |
| 11:02.41 | stolenlegacy | sbu: new screenshots up, if you're interested |
| 11:06.59 | Megalon | screens and shoots Fisker |
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| 11:24.15 | stolenlegacy | thinks mmo-c irc is fun right now |
| 11:24.28 | quiescens | what is mmo-c |
| 11:24.33 | stolenlegacy | mmo-champion, obviously |
| 11:24.39 | quiescens | oic |
| 11:24.47 | quiescens | why is it fun right now |
| 11:25.00 | stolenlegacy | http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions/f5-f5-f5-f5/msg2455920/#msg2455920 |
| 11:25.21 | stolenlegacy | channel is at about 200 lines per minute right now |
| 11:25.32 | quiescens | effort |
| 11:28.45 | Shot | qnet? |
| 11:30.02 | stolenlegacy | ye |
| 11:30.13 | stolenlegacy | #mmo-champion @ quakenet |
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| 11:48.43 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r726 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 11:48.45 | Repo | Added a generic framework for per-status options, and a first option to only show buff-statuses when they are cast by the player himself. |
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| 12:59.13 | stolenlegacy | hits level 75 |
| 12:59.15 | stolenlegacy | woot ffb |
| 13:00.05 | Megalon | TERRORISM & VIOLENCE |
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| 13:08.10 | Fisker | agreed Megalon |
| 13:08.11 | Fisker | damn hakers |
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| 13:37.18 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r32 calendar.lua: it was skipping player events with same names |
| 13:47.27 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r33 locale-enUS.lua: fix typo |
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| 15:17.50 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp 07master * ff3ac27 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 15:17.51 | Repo | ff3ac27: Fixed the skill levels for Glyph of Eternal Water and added two missing vendors to it |
| 15:17.52 | Repo | 1d52e7f: Added Jezebel Bican and Kul Inkspiller vendors to the vendor database |
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| 16:01.03 | sbu | hmm haste, oBindings does key <> spell binding without any actionbars, right? i could remove/hide all my bars then... :p |
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| 16:06.01 | haste | sbu: I have no idea what you mean with <> |
| 16:06.10 | sbu | key to spell |
| 16:06.22 | sbu | or spell to key |
| 16:06.23 | sbu | whatever :) |
| 16:06.34 | haste | yes that works |
| 16:06.43 | sbu | so no more actionbars :p |
| 16:06.55 | haste | it doesn't support double modifiers atm, but that's easy to add |
| 16:07.00 | haste | and only insane people use such! |
| 16:07.09 | sbu | double as in shift+alt+number? |
| 16:07.22 | sbu | no need then ;) |
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| 16:08.38 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r141 Bazooka.lua: maxFrameWidth is 2000 now, fix tickte-11 |
| 16:08.55 | sbu | haste: i dont understand the alt = {... part in your priest.lua - whats a spell without a specific key? |
| 16:09.46 | haste | things that aren't in the sub-tables |
| 16:10.05 | haste | prayer of mending is on 1 for example |
| 16:10.31 | Torhal | mitch0: Danke |
| 16:11.17 | haste | and to actually answer the question, no prefix == ordinary table logic; which means dispel is on alt-1 and cure is on alt-2 |
| 16:11.39 | sbu | i see |
| 16:18.03 | mitchnull | torhal: bitte, although you really should just attach all your bars to the bottom. (now they properly attach to each other, no need for free-floating bars like that any more) |
| 16:18.51 | mitchnull | anyone happen to know if Mind Vision can be cast on NPCs in sanctuaries? |
| 16:19.08 | koaschten | here we go, shaman changes |
| 16:19.22 | sbu | koaschten: old! |
| 16:19.29 | sbu | but interesting... :p |
| 16:19.33 | Torhal | mitchnull: Well, I just did something unconventional: Moved my top bar to be above the new panel I made which is resting on the bottom two bars |
| 16:20.16 | mitchnull | erm |
| 16:20.21 | mitchnull | parse error |
| 16:20.25 | Torhal | Hah |
| 16:20.51 | mitchnull | what new panel? |
| 16:20.55 | Torhal | I have two bars on the bottom of my screen. Resting atop those is a panel which contains my chatframes, action bars, pet bar, etc |
| 16:21.05 | mitchnull | ah |
| 16:21.06 | Torhal | On top of that is a third bar. |
| 16:21.17 | mitchnull | well, still can do with tweaks |
| 16:21.27 | Torhal | Yah |
| 16:21.28 | mitchnull | tweak bottom on your "top" bar |
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| 16:29.08 | mitchnull | torhal: did you try the new alpha? |
| 16:42.31 | Torhal | Not yet, was tweaking my plugins a bit :) |
| 16:44.38 | quiescens | moo |
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| 16:53.19 | mitch0 | torhal: ok, please drop a comment on the ticket if it works, then I'll tag a relese. thanks |
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| 16:58.41 | arkanes | can anyone think of a spell that has a cast time, but is then channelled? |
| 16:59.52 | sbu | lock healthstone stuff maybe!? |
| 17:00.14 | quiescens | i don't think it is any more |
| 17:00.19 | arkanes | creating the altar is a regular castable spell, then using it is channeled, 2 seperate actions |
| 17:00.58 | nevcairiel | channeld spells are always instant cast |
| 17:01.03 | arkanes | old summon might have worked this way |
| 17:01.17 | arkanes | nevcairiel: yeah that was my thought, was looking for a counterexample |
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| 17:28.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 6599eda Scanner.lua: [+1 commit] In addon:ScanTrainerData(): Re-factored some logic to eliminate duplicate code, and took a ginsu knife to some grammar. |
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| 17:40.38 | sbu | bah, i need a second icc exalted ring :/ |
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| 18:34.25 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * 30eb559 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 18:34.27 | Repo | 30eb559: The recipes "Alchemist's Stone" and "Adept's Elixir" are from TBC, not classic WoW. |
| 18:34.28 | Repo | aea7486: The recipes for "Shadow Oil" and "Free Action Potion" are from classic WoW, not WoTLK. |
| 18:34.29 | Repo | baa9369: Store a recipe's genesis as a string reference instead of an integer and convert when needed. |
| 18:34.30 | Repo | ae29cff: Don't store the spell link on the recipe - request it from the client when it's required. |
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| 18:44.32 | Repo | - minor fixes |
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| 19:23.32 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03alexfolland * r133 GridStatusHots.lua: |
| 19:23.34 | Repo | Added +0.99 seconds to floor()ed timers for more accurate timing (If there's a better way to do this, please do it.) |
| 19:24.32 | Groktar | wait, you floor it and add .99 seconds? |
| 19:24.47 | Groktar | i don't get it |
| 19:25.04 | ckknight | math.ceil |
| 19:25.06 | ckknight | gg |
| 19:25.08 | Groktar | yeah... |
| 19:25.19 | durcyn | well, down syndrome is a genetic disorder involving trisomy 21 |
| 19:25.30 | durcyn | it's also the only logical explanation for that commit |
| 19:33.25 | Groktar | i want to write an addon just so i can put absurd messages with each commit comment |
| 19:36.13 | Pneumatus | such fail post on mmochamp |
| 19:36.29 | nicoli_s | why? its just translated from spanish |
| 19:36.31 | Pneumatus | by "wow.com provided a translation" it clearly means babelfish |
| 19:36.44 | nicoli_s | i was wondering why blizz would have such horrible grammar then read the top :P |
| 19:36.54 | Pneumatus | no spanish person has translated that |
| 19:36.59 | Pneumatus | its been run through an online translator |
| 19:37.29 | nicoli_s | for sure |
| 19:46.48 | Groktar | sigh, and this is the part of the day where everyone but me plays modern warfare |
| 19:47.07 | Groktar | after taking an hour lunch everyone plays for ~40 minutes |
| 19:47.16 | Groktar | but they gave me the crappy laptop that can't handle it :( |
| 19:48.28 | Primer | Fiskers Groktar |
| 19:51.00 | Groktar | is already getting fiskered |
| 19:51.09 | Groktar | asks for work tickets again |
| 19:54.31 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: well read the original then |
| 19:54.37 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24038461667/cataclysm-class-preview-warlock/ |
| 19:55.17 | NeoTron | green fire. nuff said |
| 19:55.58 | Stanzilla | and focus magic |
| 19:56.53 | NeoTron | yeah that's a wtf |
| 19:57.10 | NeoTron | 1) rip of existing spell. 2) call it new, 3) ??? 4) WTF? |
| 19:57.31 | Primer | 5) PROFIT! |
| 19:58.16 | NeoTron | I intentionally didn't say that because I dunno. But I guess it's nice to have a spell to buddy up with the other locks for |
| 19:58.31 | NeoTron | take your FM rotation and scrub it. I have a DARK INTENT rotation. HAH! |
| 20:00.22 | Primer | I just want to be at the top of DPS meters again |
| 20:00.36 | NeoTron | you can be. just play with scrubs |
| 20:01.06 | Primer | but then they're so bad you can't down the boss |
| 20:01.07 | Groktar | or play with a shitload of rogues and disc priests who will pi/tricks you |
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| 20:01.52 | Groktar | heh, 100% uptime on tricks probably wouldn't be enough on a lot of fights |
| 20:08.47 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: someone on my realm has trouble with SexyMap & the new "boss" unitframes (the blizzard ones): he says before 3.3.3 SexyMap's built-in mover functions could move those frames and they would stay put at the chosen position, but since 3.3.3 he can still move them, but as soon as he enters combat, they jump back to their default position (anchored below the minimap, which results in them being off screen, because his map is at the bottom |
| 20:08.53 | Gnarfoz | of his screen) - any idea or have you got any reports about this? |
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| 20:09.28 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: MOAR cowbell. |
| 20:09.39 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: yes, that's a given |
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| 20:12.38 | Pneumatus | Shadowed: 1x LibHealComm-4.0-49 (Grid):74: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil) |
| 20:22.37 | Primer | WTB curse not sending me mail when I comment on my own addon |
| 20:22.54 | nicoli_s | yeah it def shouldnt do that |
| 20:23.29 | Torhal | nicoli_s: FEEX NAO PLOX |
| 20:24.48 | nicoli_s | torhal: i dont work on curse.com |
| 20:25.20 | nevcairiel | wowace does the same |
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| 20:25.31 | nevcairiel | the whole subscription dealy is broken |
| 20:25.35 | nevcairiel | on both pages |
| 20:25.36 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 20:25.49 | nevcairiel | but i hear its on the list to fix, at least on wowace |
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| 20:33.38 | Gnarfoz | ~seen Antiarc |
| 20:33.42 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (2d 3h 10m 23s) #wowace (2d 3h 10m 23s) #curseforge (2d 3h 10m 23s). Has said a total of 60 messages. Is idling for 8h 36m 24s, last said: 'well, yeah, it'll do that depending on how the EP values shift around'. |
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| 20:57.48 | Silowyi | hey does anyone know how in awk to remove part of a field? I need to modify a field to hide the first ten digits |
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| 21:16.31 | stolenlegacy | http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h149/Kaiser_Paul/worldwar2internets.gif |
| 21:16.35 | stolenlegacy | *lol* |
| 21:17.38 | Jygga | bandwidth exceeded |
| 21:18.23 | stolenlegacy | oh |
| 21:18.27 | stolenlegacy | then it gotta be cached for me |
| 21:19.43 | stolenlegacy | http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7839/worldwar2internets.gif |
| 21:19.45 | stolenlegacy | this should work |
| 21:25.25 | Ackis | lol stolenlegacy |
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| 21:50.11 | miica_ | hmm.. |
| 21:50.28 | miica | i got something like this |
| 21:50.30 | miica | guildmembers[name] = {dkp=note, class=class} |
| 21:50.47 | miica | and i wanna sort that table and i want bigest dkp 1st |
| 21:50.57 | miica | any ideas? |
| 21:51.07 | Primer | bubble sort! |
| 21:51.17 | miica | wut :o |
| 21:53.20 | Primer | seems my addon broke TomTom again |
| 21:53.52 | Brybry | select * from guildmembers order by dkp desc |
| 21:54.01 | Primer | user is telling me that TomTom's control-rightclick doesn't work when my addon is installed |
| 21:54.06 | Brybry | if only you had it in a database eh? |
| 21:54.20 | Primer | yet, I could have sworn I stole^Wborrowed the code that did that from TomTom itself! |
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| 21:55.31 | miica | Brybry: lua... |
| 21:57.45 | Groktar | is select * really that much worse than select field1, field2, ... fieldn? |
| 21:57.56 | Primer | yes |
| 21:58.13 | Groktar | i just got an email raging about it, heh |
| 21:58.35 | nicoli_s | depends on how much data you need |
| 21:58.36 | Primer | slaps Groktar around with a Fisker |
| 21:58.54 | nicoli_s | if you need all of the data, * is fine, if you need 1 or 2 columns, * is prob too much |
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| 21:59.14 | Groktar | well yeah |
| 22:00.00 | Primer | then you have all the idiot mysql/PHP people that are content to retrieve data via index |
| 22:00.08 | Primer | $row[0], $row[1] |
| 22:00.13 | nicoli_s | ugh, i hate that |
| 22:00.19 | Primer | and their shit breaks when the table structure changes |
| 22:00.32 | Groktar | heh |
| 22:00.52 | Primer | that's just laziness |
| 22:00.55 | Groktar | idk, when i use php/mysql i don't go $row[0] |
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| 22:02.34 | Primer | some people do |
| 22:02.46 | Primer | those that haven't learned from experience |
| 22:03.20 | Groktar | tbh that never even occured to me |
| 22:03.43 | durcyn | fetchrow_hashref() isn't hard |
| 22:03.54 | Primer | EXCEPT THAT'S PERL! |
| 22:04.04 | durcyn | there is only perl. |
| 22:04.12 | Primer | I love perl |
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| 22:31.47 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r308 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix some more bugs |
| 22:32.16 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.3.3 release 3 * r309 : tag as 3.3.3 release 3 |
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| 22:44.42 | miica | some reason i dont get AceGui Label:SetColor work :o |
| 22:45.31 | miica | i got freme and inside frame i got scrollframe and inside scroll frame i got lot labels |
| 22:52.40 | miica | it is removed :o |
| 22:54.31 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJAbCuwcWxo |
| 22:54.35 | Funkeh` | pro... |
| 22:55.08 | Funkeh` | modern warfare 2 dlc advert |
| 22:56.00 | Groktar | oic |
| 22:56.08 | Groktar | i don't even have regular mw2 |
| 22:56.21 | Funkeh` | theres like several of those ad |
| 22:56.23 | Funkeh` | ads* |
| 22:56.26 | Funkeh` | pretty funny |
| 22:56.44 | Groktar | everyone else here has mw2 on their laptops tho |
| 22:56.48 | Groktar | :( |
| 22:56.50 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6Tp-nwbkh4 |
| 22:57.25 | Primer | My kid plays MW2 on the PS3 |
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| 22:57.59 | miica | cant be so hard set text color :'( |
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| 23:00.44 | Primer | You're Doing it Wrong⢠|
| 23:01.29 | miica | not! :D |
| 23:05.17 | miica | Primer: well setcolor was removes in some patch atleast wowwiki says so but i found something about textures |
| 23:06.11 | Primer | !api settextcolor |
| 23:06.12 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'settextcolor': SimpleHTML:SetTextColor, FontInstance:SetTextColor |
| 23:06.40 | Primer | :SetTextColor(r, g, b, a) <-- is how I do it, on a FontInstance |
| 23:06.48 | miica | hmm.. |
| 23:07.42 | Primer | font = frame:CreateFontString(nil, "OVERLAY", "GameFontNormalSmall"); font:SetTextColor(1, 0, 0); -- Red text |
| 23:07.50 | Primer | or something |
| 23:08.45 | miica | Attempt to call function SetTextColor nil value and it isnt nil O,o |
| 23:08.55 | miica | oh |
| 23:09.14 | miica | or i need to do that font 1st |
| 23:09.27 | Primer | well, you need to operate on something |
| 23:09.36 | miica | ofc there is label |
| 23:09.46 | miica | NameLabel:SetTextColor(1,0,0) |
| 23:10.05 | miica | and NameLabel = AceGUI:Create("Label") |
| 23:11.11 | Primer | surely there's a way to do it within the framework? |
| 23:12.04 | miica | and hould be |
| 23:12.18 | miica | well should* |
| 23:12.22 | Primer | SetColor(r, g, b) - Set the color of the text. |
| 23:12.44 | Primer | for the "InteractiveLabel" |
| 23:12.53 | Primer | same for Label! |
| 23:12.56 | Primer | you're in luck |
| 23:13.10 | Primer | so...NameLabel:SetColor(1, 0, 0); |
| 23:13.13 | Primer | voilà |
| 23:13.15 | miica | well where you found that :D |
| 23:13.21 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-widgets/#w-containers |
| 23:13.23 | miica | and it even works :D |
| 23:13.27 | miica | O,o |
| 23:13.32 | miica | i am sure i looked that |
| 23:13.52 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-widgets/#w-label |
| 23:14.02 | miica | maybe i am just blind |
| 23:14.21 | Primer | I should redo my dialog using that |
| 23:14.41 | Primer | instead of just copying Xinhuan's code that does it with primitives :) |
| 23:15.27 | miica | i did dkp addon for my guid |
| 23:15.33 | miica | so we can keep dkp points in note |
| 23:15.53 | miica | now i try to make somekind system which can list points different ways |
| 23:15.53 | Primer | you mean, like epgp? |
| 23:16.16 | miica | yeah but just dkp |
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| 23:24.10 | Repo | 10grid2-luatexts: 03Azethoth * r14 Grid2LuaTexts.lua: |
| 23:24.12 | Repo | "Grid2" -> "Default" for the nil (use default / parent) setting. |
| 23:24.42 | Repo | 10grid2-luatexts: 03Azethoth * r15 Options/Grid2LuaTextsOptions.lua: |
| 23:24.44 | Repo | "Grid2" -> "Default" for the nil (use default / parent) setting. |
| 23:26.53 | Repo | 10status-aura-group: 03Azethoth * r64 Options/Grid2StatusAuraGroupOptions.lua: corner-bottom-right -> icon showing mitigation |
| 23:26.55 | Repo | show individual textures inside a group for icon display |
| 23:27.15 | Repo | 10status-aura-group: 03Azethoth * r65 Grid2StatusAuraGroup.lua: corner-bottom-right -> icon showing mitigation |
| 23:27.16 | Repo | show individual textures inside a group for icon display |
| 23:28.32 | Repo | 10grid2statusdungeonrole: 03Azethoth * r24 Options/Grid2StatusDungeonRoleOptions.lua: fix side-right-top offsets |
| 23:29.04 | Repo | 10status-group: 03Azethoth * r20 Options/Grid2StatusGroupOptions.lua: fix side-right-top and bottom offsets |
| 23:33.55 | Primer | While discussing raid frames with a guildy, I found that I need more information from my PitBull, namely smart timers on my HoTs, ways to show selective buffs like my PoM, and my debuffs, such as weakened soul |
| 23:35.39 | Primer | Anyone know if PitBull4 can do these "out of the box"? I confess I've not looked into this extensively, but if I had to guess, I'd have to guess that it can't do it |
| 23:35.58 | Groktar | ? |
| 23:36.15 | Groktar | oh |
| 23:36.22 | Groktar | yes |
| 23:36.30 | Groktar | gogo luatext! |
| 23:36.45 | Groktar | well, for the hot timer stuff |
| 23:36.56 | Groktar | hmm |
| 23:37.11 | Groktar | it will also show specific debuffs np |
| 23:37.12 | Shefki | Primer: I'm not really sure what you're looking for. There are a zillion ways to show just about anything you want with auras. |
| 23:37.25 | Groktar | look under modules -> auras |
| 23:37.26 | Groktar | i think |
| 23:37.29 | Primer | Shefki: take Vuhdo for example |
| 23:37.37 | Shefki | That doesn't help me I don't use Vuhdo. |
| 23:37.59 | Primer | It shows little timers in the form of colored numbers so show a ticking hot |
| 23:38.05 | Primer | but only yours |
| 23:38.14 | Shefki | You can turn on text timers on auras for just your stuff. |
| 23:38.20 | Shefki | You can even make them colored by time. |
| 23:39.37 | Primer | yes, but can it filter for only specifica auras? |
| 23:39.42 | Primer | specific, even |
| 23:40.00 | Groktar | yes |
| 23:40.00 | Groktar | there is a shitton of stuff in it |
| 23:40.03 | Shefki | You can limit it to things that tyou cast. |
| 23:40.12 | Primer | only mine, only HoTs, but not Fort |
| 23:40.16 | Primer | ? |
| 23:40.21 | Shefki | And by limit, limit what shows text? |
| 23:40.22 | Groktar | yes |
| 23:40.33 | Primer | no, as in shows at all |
| 23:40.36 | Groktar | you really just need to start messing with it Primer |
| 23:40.52 | Primer | Groktar: yes, I plan to once I get home...I'm just doing some recon |
| 23:40.52 | Shefki | You can filter what auras show by pretty much anything you can think of. |
| 23:41.04 | Groktar | and from there you can make metafilters! |
| 23:41.09 | Primer | perfect! |
| 23:41.22 | Primer | I'm going to show these people that PitBull4 is the best raid frame addon hands down |
| 23:41.24 | Shefki | Now, how they display can't be controlled by the filtering system. |
| 23:41.38 | Shefki | So you can't say "Put text timers on this aura and not that aura." |
| 23:41.49 | Shefki | However, there are some fairly reasonable sets that you can turn text timers on for. |
| 23:41.57 | Primer | as long as I can filter by aura, that's all I'll need |
| 23:41.59 | Shefki | You can tell it only to put a text timer on auras that you actually cast. |
| 23:42.16 | Groktar | clearly there needs to be an option to have multiple aura filters active |
| 23:42.30 | Shefki | Groktar: Why? Just make a meta filter to combine them. |
| 23:42.46 | Groktar | so you can have one set of buffs with numbers and another set with icons! |
| 23:43.01 | Primer | I have 2 healing classes: a priest and a druid. I just want a buff icon with a timer in it for: (priest) PoM, renew, weakened soul |
| 23:43.17 | Primer | and on the druid, the HoTs |
| 23:43.33 | Primer | they appear when I cast, show a countdown, go away when they fade |
| 23:43.50 | Groktar | yes primer, that's fine |
| 23:44.02 | Shefki | Groktar: It's complicated to have the filtering control the display, becuase the filtering system is entirely separate from that. |
| 23:44.12 | Groktar | yeah, i know |
| 23:44.13 | koaschten_ | @describe AVR |
| 23:44.14 | Repo | koaschten_: http://www.wowace.com/addons/avr/. AVR. Augmented Virtual Reality. Draw and add markers in the 3d world. |
| 23:44.43 | Shefki | A lot of the display stuff isn't done until I'm actualy doing the layout of the frames. |
| 23:44.58 | Shefki | One of the big things people want is the ability to make auras bigger based on a filter. |
| 23:45.04 | Groktar | fundamentally in the pb4 layout the buffs and debuffs are the exact same thing, but with a different filter, yees? |
| 23:45.12 | Shefki | But sizing randomly will hose the layout. |
| 23:45.27 | Shefki | Groktar: Not exactly. |
| 23:45.31 | Groktar | o |
| 23:45.32 | Shefki | The code is the same that runs. |
| 23:45.40 | Shefki | But it runs with a different filter to UnitAura. |
| 23:45.50 | Shefki | But our filtering system doesn't use the UnitAura filters. |
| 23:45.51 | Primer | I find that the pb4 code is quite pleasant to look at |
| 23:45.59 | Groktar | so you couldn't make a creative filter than would make buffs show in debuffs? |
| 23:46.02 | Primer | Shefki: I'm guessing you've removed all the ckknight code by now? |
| 23:46.07 | Shefki | Groktar: No. |
| 23:46.14 | Shefki | Primer: removed? |
| 23:46.16 | Shefki | No |
| 23:46.29 | Primer | ok, I guess it wasn't as funny as I thought it'd be |
| 23:47.01 | Shefki | There's some chunks that I've rewritten at this point. |
| 23:47.07 | Shefki | Like the state handling code is entirely new. |
| 23:47.21 | Shefki | state as in (are you in a 25 man raid, 5 man raid, party) |
| 23:47.44 | Shefki | But there's still large chunks that I haven't really touched. |
| 23:47.56 | Shefki | I've done very little to the BetterStatusBar iimpelementation. |
| 23:48.27 | Primer | Shefki: My ultimate goal is to demonstrate to people that PB4 can be made to look and act like any other raid frame addon out there (in a manner of speaking) |
| 23:48.44 | Primer | that it's the most configurable raid frame addon |
| 23:48.48 | Groktar | people keep asking me how i made my grid look that way |
| 23:48.49 | Groktar | :D |
| 23:49.00 | Shefki | Primer: It can be made to look almost exactly like Grid. |
| 23:49.12 | Groktar | finds a picture of his ui |
| 23:49.12 | Primer | Groktar: yeah, I've had people ask me "Hey, how did you make your grid look like that?" |
| 23:49.33 | Primer | Groktar: I have a picture of mine...but people usually laugh |
| 23:49.36 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/download/wow/WoWScrnShot_040410_214607.jpg |
| 23:49.38 | Groktar | actually, it's quitting time |
| 23:49.39 | Primer | but I don't really care :) |
| 23:49.42 | Groktar | i'll link you one when i get home |
| 23:49.49 | Primer | Groktar: I love you |
| 23:49.54 | Groktar | and tomorrow i will ask more vociferously for work tickets |
| 23:49.57 | Groktar | later |
| 23:49.59 | *** join/#wowace Tuikku (~tuikku@tuikku.tontut.fi) |
| 23:50.21 | Shefki | If there's anything we're missing is a way to display a large aura icon for on the top of the raid frame for debuffs and what not. |
| 23:50.34 | Primer | I asked you about that recently |
| 23:50.37 | Shefki | Which is just the matter of someone wanting it bad enough to write the module for it. |
| 23:50.41 | Primer | as I wanted to make them more pronounced |
| 23:50.41 | ckknight | Primer: you have challenged me! |
| 23:50.44 | ckknight | I demand sacrifice! |
| 23:50.56 | Primer | cuts himself in honor of ckknight |
| 23:51.49 | ckknight | k, we're good |
| 23:55.13 | Primer | I've recently noticed that raid indexes now seem to be the same for everyone in a raid |
| 23:55.33 | Primer | for example, dude "raid rolls" a saronite/orb in a pug |
| 23:55.38 | Primer | roll 1-25 |
| 23:55.48 | Primer | before, all you could presume was that 1-5 was group 1 |
| 23:56.15 | Primer | but every time he raid rolled, the number corresponded exactly to where that person landed in my UI |
| 23:57.05 | ckknight | you can choose how to order it |
| 23:57.09 | ckknight | by default it's done by index |
| 23:57.14 | ckknight | not by group |
| 23:57.17 | Primer | I'm wondering if perhaps it was not true that one player's raid layout might not not be the same as another's, or that was true, but they lied? |
| 23:57.24 | Primer | I mean the default UI |
| 23:57.30 | Primer | the raid tab |
| 23:57.30 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 23:57.35 | Primer | going from top to bottom |
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