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| 00:28.42 | koaschten | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/gAI-iE0ziCk/the-day-traders-paradise |
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| 00:56.33 | Repo | 10blockoland: 03Rabbit * r2 / (6 files in 3 directories): Yet another pesky LDB display addon. |
| 01:01.42 | Repo | 10blockoland: 03Rabbit * r3 / (5 files in 2 directories): Add some libs and stuff. |
| 01:03.09 | DWSR | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133593 <-- Can someone help me troubleshoot this error? As far as I can tell, that particular revision doesn't actually describe a .bat file at all? |
| 01:04.10 | Fisker | blockoland eh? |
| 01:04.15 | Fisker | @project blockoland |
| 01:04.19 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blockoland/. Blockoland. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 35 minutes ago |
| 01:04.45 | Fisker | your addon is awesome vhaarr |
| 01:04.55 | vhaarr | how can you tell? |
| 01:05.13 | Fisker | i can't |
| 01:05.50 | vhaarr | DWSR: well you need to provide a diff of what you're trying to push before we can see if there are any changes to bat files in it or not, don't we |
| 01:06.10 | DWSR | vhaarr: lol, yeah, probably >.< |
| 01:06.11 | DWSR | sec |
| 01:06.40 | vhaarr | Fisker: don't worry, you're right and it is |
| 01:07.04 | arkanes | no hunger strikes |
| 01:07.10 | arkanes | so thats better than my addon, anyway |
| 01:07.34 | vhaarr | your addon actively promotes them? |
| 01:07.58 | arkanes | well, it has a cache of indonesian orphans |
| 01:08.11 | arkanes | and every time libfail goes off it starves one of them to death |
| 01:08.26 | DWSR | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133594 |
| 01:09.40 | vhaarr | DWSR: as far as I can see you changed nothing in that diff |
| 01:09.57 | vhaarr | well, spaces around the url |
| 01:10.00 | DWSR | vhaarr: btw, this is an import of an SVN repository into git. |
| 01:10.03 | DWSR | vhaarr: Yes. |
| 01:10.06 | vhaarr | ah |
| 01:10.14 | vhaarr | well then you can't import the .bat files in the addon |
| 01:10.15 | DWSR | Which is why I'm wondering what the f*** the commit hook is whining. |
| 01:10.16 | vhaarr | simple as that |
| 01:10.17 | arkanes | newlines perhaps? |
| 01:10.24 | DWSR | vhaarr: There are no bat files in the addon |
| 01:10.33 | DWSR | Haven't ever been, either, according to Git's history. |
| 01:11.20 | vhaarr | I can't verify that, it seems git://git.wowace.com/wow/aloft/mainline.git is empty |
| 01:11.30 | DWSR | It is. |
| 01:11.40 | DWSR | Because I'm attempting to push to it right now and getting this error message. |
| 01:11.50 | DWSR | Let me check the original SVN repository. |
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| 01:14.26 | vhaarr | DWSR: I downloaded the latest file at http://www.wowace.com/addons/aloft/files/ and it has both a BAT and SH script in it |
| 01:14.33 | DWSR | Ah, yes it does. |
| 01:14.35 | DWSR | I see it now |
| 01:14.41 | DWSR | Bleh. |
| 01:14.43 | vhaarr | how could you miss it, it was in the root |
| 01:15.00 | DWSR | vhaar: Because I'm looking at 6 things at once and trying to watch the closing ceremonies. :P |
| 01:15.15 | vhaarr | you're not a girl |
| 01:15.32 | vhaarr | don't try to multitask, you will only fail |
| 01:15.39 | DWSR | Fair enough |
| 01:15.59 | DWSR | So I have to remove every reference to a .bat and .sh file in a commit? |
| 01:16.33 | vhaarr | yes don't include them in the push |
| 01:16.56 | DWSR | Is there an easy way to remove them from everything in the repository? |
| 01:17.35 | DWSR | selectively push or selectively uncommit? |
| 01:17.44 | vhaarr | I am not that experienced with git |
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| 01:17.50 | vhaarr | but I am sure others in here are |
| 01:17.54 | DWSR | mhm |
| 01:17.57 | DWSR | thanks. |
| 01:19.32 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.12-3-g52f79bd / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add option to color unit names by class (only for units in the same party/raid) |
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| 01:45.01 | DWSR | vhaarr: Is there a quick way to remove all files attached to a project? |
| 01:46.03 | Gnarfoz | don't |
| 01:46.18 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: No, I really want to. |
| 01:46.25 | Gnarfoz | why do you want to erase history? |
| 01:46.40 | DWSR | Because the history is super old and will be disjointed. |
| 01:46.50 | Gnarfoz | bs |
| 01:47.10 | DWSR | http://www.wowace.com/addons/aloft/files/ <-- Last upload Oct 2 2008 |
| 01:47.12 | Gnarfoz | it's just old zips *shrug* |
| 01:47.25 | DWSR | We're uploading the maintained version of Aloft. Last upload was like 4 days ago. |
| 01:47.43 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware, so? :p |
| 01:47.58 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Want to blow the old history away. :P |
| 01:48.06 | Gnarfoz | which is stupid, but go ahead~ |
| 01:48.15 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Why? I have the history in the repository. |
| 01:48.28 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 01:48.45 | DWSR | What more history do I need? |
| 01:48.49 | Gnarfoz | first of all, there's a big chunk of "history" missing because of acapela who couldn't be arsed to use a vcs |
| 01:49.00 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: He used the VCS at WoWI. |
| 01:49.07 | Gnarfoz | huh? that's new. |
| 01:49.15 | DWSR | Not relaly. quite old, actually. :P |
| 01:49.16 | Gnarfoz | when he started he just uploaded zips |
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| 01:49.29 | DWSR | Yeah, he couldn't get commit access apparently. |
| 01:49.41 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 01:49.47 | Gnarfoz | to his own repo? :p |
| 01:49.53 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: It wasn't his repo. |
| 01:49.57 | Gnarfoz | "Aloft (beta)" was his |
| 01:49.58 | DWSR | It was Roartindon's. |
| 01:50.11 | Gnarfoz | he never had access to "Aloft" |
| 01:50.43 | DWSR | heh *shrug* |
| 01:50.44 | Gnarfoz | blah blah blah, whatever, that's all old, but why make people who want to get old versions get them from svn? ;\ |
| 01:50.57 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Because the old versions are no longer compatible with WoW? |
| 01:51.00 | Gnarfoz | it's not like people are going to grab an oct 2008 version |
| 01:51.11 | Gnarfoz | I mean, accidentally |
| 01:51.13 | DWSR | Yeah, so why keep it there? |
| 01:51.19 | Gnarfoz | why delete it? |
| 01:51.30 | DWSR | Takes up space, looks bad. :P |
| 01:51.37 | Gnarfoz | space, riight. |
| 01:51.44 | Gnarfoz | and: nobody sees it except people looking for it |
| 01:51.56 | Gnarfoz | people are getting it from curse.com, not wowace.com |
| 01:52.09 | Gnarfoz | curse.com won't show that x-thousand zip history ;) |
| 01:52.24 | DWSR | What will it show? Those are the most recent files. |
| 01:52.38 | Gnarfoz | I thought you were moving the *current* files here? |
| 01:52.41 | DWSR | I reactivated the project and almost immediately got a complaint about the fact that someone's CClient picked up an old Aloft version. |
| 01:52.42 | Gnarfoz | I'd expect it to show that |
| 01:52.54 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Of course I am. I'm sorting out some repository issues atm. |
| 01:53.00 | Gnarfoz | well, you reactivated it... without putting new files in there? |
| 01:53.14 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 01:53.18 | DWSR | Something along the lines of "Who the fuck puts batch and shell scripts in an addon project?" |
| 01:53.28 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: The project was marked inactive. |
| 01:53.31 | Gnarfoz | right, those are disallowed normally, afaik |
| 01:53.45 | Gnarfoz | that happens, and it unhappens as soon as you upload a new version :D |
| 01:53.49 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: When someone added me as an author, it automatically syndicated the project back to Curse (most likely because it wasn't inactive anymore). |
| 01:53.57 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 01:54.08 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make sense, I blame ckk |
| 01:54.14 | Gnarfoz | ~whistle |
| 01:54.14 | purl | ACTION whistles |
| 01:54.19 | DWSR | I have since marked the project as experimental, but I just want a clean slate. |
| 01:55.09 | Gnarfoz | I don't think that'll make a difference, but hey, I'm not working on it, so more power to you |
| 01:55.40 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Marking it as experimental *should* stop it from getting syndicated, but I suppose it might not remove the project from Curse now that it's there. |
| 01:55.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I don't think that'll undo that |
| 01:56.15 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: well, I can't find it with curse search. |
| 01:56.33 | Gnarfoz | that's... good I guess, at least for what you're trying to achieve for the moment |
| 01:57.03 | Gnarfoz | curse.com is horrible anyway, it's a shame curse (Inc.) doesn't want to spend money on overhauling it apparently =o |
| 01:58.06 | DWSR | Curse's search is brutal. |
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| 02:33.30 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r136 Prescription.lua: -test adding /rxc to perform the delayed check |
| 02:33.40 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: acapela is lying, he was doing that aloftbeta on wowi before aceforge, back when anybody could commit to any project |
| 02:34.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:34.52 | Shefki | What is all this drama over aloft? |
| 02:34.58 | Arrowmaster | never |
| 02:35.22 | Arrowmaster | its old drama |
| 02:35.28 | vhaarr | I remember that aloftbeta as well |
| 02:35.47 | vhaarr | although I'm wondering what you replied to |
| 02:36.10 | Arrowmaster | what i replied 'never' too? im not sure either |
| 02:36.20 | vhaarr | :P |
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| 02:46.44 | eblume | Hey, anyone want to blow stuff up in A10's? I just put together a Mando Missile training thing for two A10's to seek out and destroy a shilka-supported armored column. I'd like someone else to fly leed |
| 02:46.46 | eblume | lead* |
| 02:47.07 | eblume | Wow. Wrong chat window again. |
| 02:47.10 | eblume | Apologies. |
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| 02:47.21 | eblume | I gotta find a way to make X-Chat stop stealing the focus when this channel loads. |
| 02:47.57 | orionshock | morning all |
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| 03:15.10 | Repo | 10aloft: 03DWSR 07master * ddbb842 Aloft (281 files in 73 directories): [new, +1450 commits] (1446 truncated) |
| 03:15.12 | Repo | ddbb842: updated with new requests and recent progress. |
| 03:15.13 | Repo | 56ad8eb: fored update of minor revision. |
| 03:15.19 | DWSR | :D |
| 03:15.21 | DWSR | Sorry. |
| 03:15.27 | Repo | 9459952: updated change log. |
| 03:15.28 | Repo | f407a3d: tweaked SetFrameLevel() processing so that underlying nameplate frame level can be checked to insure resulting value stays in range. |
| 03:17.46 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5.1-15-g3c79c6b / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 03:17.48 | Repo | 3c79c6b: - NEW OPTION: "Time left" for chronmometers. (Defaults to off) Displays time left instead of time elapsed on afflicted MUFs. |
| 03:17.49 | Repo | 7dd690f: - Fix memorial strata, some cleanup in related code. |
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| 03:37.30 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blockoland/. Blockoland. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 03:37.35 | Torhal | vhaarr: That description makes my brain itch. |
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| 03:38.54 | DWSR | Torhal: First line's a joke (I think)? |
| 03:40.15 | Torhal | DWSR: It is. |
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| 03:44.26 | Repo | AllPlayed: |
| 03:44.27 | Repo | - Translation clean-up |
| 03:44.28 | Repo | - Added new translated phrases for frFR (thanks Beltza) |
| 03:44.29 | Repo | - Added new translated phrases for koKR (thanks next96 and chkid) |
| 03:49.29 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * beta8-8-gbfe2a9f Database (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 03:49.31 | Repo | bfe2a9f: Added "Invincible's Reins" to the Mount database. |
| 03:49.32 | Repo | f04f133: Added "The Lich King" to the Mob database. |
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| 04:37.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 04:37.38 | pompy | anyone know the Item IDs for the Wind Rider Cub and Gryphon Hatchling? |
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| 04:46.06 | Torhal | pompy: There are no item IDs |
| 04:46.24 | Torhal | pompy: You get the plush doll in the mail, and it has a card attached to it with the pet code. Booty Bay, y0. |
| 04:47.21 | Shefki | Umm no. |
| 04:47.27 | Torhal | Shefki: Oh? |
| 04:47.32 | Torhal | That's how I understood it. |
| 04:47.36 | Shefki | Card, Battle.net site, mailbox |
| 04:47.37 | quiescens | it still has an item afaik |
| 04:47.45 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:47.50 | Shefki | They don't do booty bay for anything new except the TCG stuff. |
| 04:48.12 | Shefki | And even the TCG stuff in booty bay has an item. |
| 04:48.29 | Shefki | pompy: Why don't you just search for them. |
| 04:48.39 | WobWork | why wouldn't it have an itemID? |
| 04:48.42 | Shefki | Surely someone on your realm has one by now I've seen at least one of the pets. |
| 04:48.49 | Shefki | WobWork: It does, Torhal was wrong. |
| 04:48.56 | quiescens | gasp |
| 04:49.00 | WobWork | zomg |
| 04:49.44 | pompy | Shefki: i have been searchin for them |
| 04:49.47 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/man-in-the-middle-attack-compromises-authenticators/ |
| 04:49.50 | pompy | but havent found any |
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| 05:01.10 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * beta8-9-g6f9377b Database/PetDatabase.lua: [+1 commit] Add Item IDs for "Gryphon Hatchling" and "Wind Rider Cub" |
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| 05:25.50 | Groktar | i forgot to put in heroic strike and ww glypjs |
| 05:25.53 | Groktar | *glyphs |
| 05:25.54 | Groktar | >< |
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| 06:57.33 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r122 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
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| 07:22.30 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r123 / (3 files in 1 directory): Set the damn eol-style on the new files. |
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| 07:25.09 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r124 / (3 files in 1 directory): Re-set the damn eol-style on the new files. |
| 07:25.54 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r125 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 10 lines) |
| 07:25.56 | Repo | Added support for Milling. |
| 07:25.57 | Repo | Added PROF_MENU_DATA table to handle Disenchant, Milling, and Prospecting within Scan(). |
| 07:25.58 | Repo | Renamed "dis_frame" to "secure_frame", since it's used for more than disenchanting now. |
| 07:25.59 | Repo | Added tooltip handling to the secure_frame, since it prevents the UIDropDown tooltip from displaying. |
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| 07:39.59 | Torhal | Fisker: TEST! |
| 07:43.32 | Megalon | Fisker is the idiot-proof idiot |
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| 08:23.16 | orionshock | question, where does one go to get tour guide now, un-modified by recent events |
| 08:23.26 | Shadowed | You don't |
| 08:24.32 | orionshock | ic, kind of an ass move.. but understandable |
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| 08:28.09 | asmodai | yawns |
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| 08:34.48 | Elkano | hmm? what did I miss about TG? |
| 08:36.37 | asmodai | http://www.xkcd.com/ XD |
| 08:36.39 | asmodai | elkje! |
| 08:40.07 | orionshock | Elkano, the author went private sector with it |
| 08:41.03 | asmodai | private sector? as in payware? |
| 08:42.08 | orionshock | well u can't download off wowace or wowi anymore |
| 08:43.02 | orionshock | http://www.zygorguides.com/freetrial/index.php but u can get it here |
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| 08:43.49 | asmodai | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=380731 <-- major rofl inside |
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| 08:55.55 | orionshock | asmodai, that is funny |
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| 10:03.19 | miica | can somebody explain me why recount and saka shows different dps but almost same damage % |
| 10:03.53 | miica | war dps had 1k dps difference |
| 10:05.15 | Elkano | different formulars used? |
| 10:05.34 | miica | but how can you say which is better? |
| 10:05.50 | Elkano | absolute DPS can be taken from summing up all events but DPS depends on what you use as fight time |
| 10:05.58 | Elkano | none |
| 10:06.37 | miica | skada normaly got better dps on everyone |
| 10:06.57 | asmodai | Kemayo: Heh, are you the same kemayo as on the Sublime Text fora? :) |
| 10:06.59 | Elkano | so most likely it has shorter fight windows |
| 10:07.19 | miica | fight windows+ :P |
| 10:07.51 | miica | i was thinking if recount starts everybody dps timer when you get in combat |
| 10:08.00 | miica | when skada looks when person starts dps |
| 10:08.18 | miica | and every person got personal dps time? |
| 10:08.49 | miica | i was hoping skada is better :D |
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| 10:09.05 | miica | it is lot better eatleast GUI and it got threat metter in it also |
| 10:10.09 | Elkano | recount used to have a threat display, too |
| 10:10.13 | Zarnivoop | miica: not sure on Recount's scheme. as for Skada; a fight segment starts when you enter combat (same for all on a boss). your personal activity time is the time between the first interesting action of yours, and the last. you can see the DPS calcuation in the DPS mode's tooltip. |
| 10:10.16 | Elkano | no idea if it still has |
| 10:11.03 | Zarnivoop | miica: don't quote me on it, but I believe Recount discounts time spend idle (after a certain amount of idleness). the activity start and and times may differ as well. |
| 10:13.38 | miica | why don't they calculate spell times and use them in calculations |
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| 10:14.38 | miica | nvm there is those buffs which change speeds ect :/ |
| 10:15.33 | miica | but idea was that if you got 1.5s cast time on fireball and you see from combat log somebody casted 10 fireball and total damage was 100k so he did 100k in 10x1.5s |
| 10:16.30 | Zarnivoop | um, why would you take cast times into account? |
| 10:16.51 | miica | put it would be perfect? |
| 10:17.01 | miica | because you can get in combat and you still need to run to boss |
| 10:17.07 | miica | it drops your dps |
| 10:17.16 | Zarnivoop | not if you don't cast anything before you get there |
| 10:17.21 | miica | or if you need to avoid fires example |
| 10:17.50 | miica | all idle time drops your dps |
| 10:18.11 | Zarnivoop | yes, and why would you discount this idle time? |
| 10:18.15 | miica | put if you calculate it from casts and cast times or attack speeds you get perfect dps, right? |
| 10:18.38 | Zarnivoop | if you discount all idle time your DPS will be a simple calculation - total number of casts * cast time for that spell. but is that DPS? |
| 10:19.10 | miica | wll true |
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| 10:19.42 | miica | but if you are unlucky your dps drop |
| 10:19.48 | miica | if you fail your dps drops |
| 10:20.02 | Zarnivoop | you can look at it this way. if you are skilled your DPS will be high. |
| 10:20.16 | Zarnivoop | because you optimize the time spent idle |
| 10:20.50 | miica | yeah but it isn't possible best way to dps in boss |
| 10:21.05 | miica | it is stupid not use any instant while in nuking boss |
| 10:21.24 | Zarnivoop | optimizing time spent idle, ie, avoiding unneccessary downtime, it is always the best way to DPS |
| 10:22.05 | miica | yeah but if you use example barrage on boss 5s earlier it drops your total dps? |
| 10:22.14 | miica | while you run to boss example |
| 10:22.26 | Elkano | Zarnivoop, but not always the best way to play ;) |
| 10:22.34 | miica | yeah :D |
| 10:22.50 | miica | "cant move got missile proc" |
| 10:22.53 | Zarnivoop | Elkano: yes it is. a good player always finds ways to optimize his task, be it DPS or healing. |
| 10:23.30 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r152 / (5 files in 5 directories): Addresses an issue with PP comms looping. |
| 10:23.35 | Elkano | well, a person wo keeps dps on the boss has lower downtime than one who switches to adds and maybe has to reposition because of that |
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| 10:23.49 | Zarnivoop | yes ofc, but that was not my point. |
| 10:24.00 | Elkano | but mine ^^ |
| 10:25.06 | Zarnivoop | we were talking in general terms about the "DPS" term, not about different assignments. obviously if you have a special assignment, say adds, your DPS will suffer. |
| 10:26.11 | Elkano | yeah, considering "in assignment" comparison, you're most likely right |
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| 10:26.20 | miica | but i don't get why war had 1k better dps on skada and i had 100 |
| 10:29.03 | miica | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2302354/skadavsrecount.png |
| 10:30.27 | Fisker | OK TORHAL |
| 10:30.28 | [Ammo] | due to both using different ways of calculating dps |
| 10:30.47 | Zarnivoop | miica: check the DPS mode in Skada. you can see the calculation there in the tooltip. |
| 10:30.48 | [Ammo] | probably dps while in combat and alive vs dps while active |
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| 10:34.01 | Fisker | @project revelation |
| 10:34.04 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 hours ago. Tickets: 2/10 |
| 10:35.13 | Fisker | it works Torhal |
| 10:35.38 | Fisker | but it works like shit |
| 10:35.40 | Fisker | oooooooooooh snap |
| 10:36.06 | Torhal | Fisker: Are you inebriated by the exuberance of your own verbosity? |
| 10:36.17 | Fisker | no |
| 10:36.25 | Torhal | Okay then |
| 10:36.36 | Fisker | anyway it sounds like it opens the profession menu every time you click it |
| 10:36.43 | Torhal | You do. |
| 10:37.10 | Fisker | why would i do such a thing |
| 10:37.34 | Torhal | To scan the profession and see if what you're clicking on pertains to anything in it. |
| 10:37.55 | Fisker | you heard of caching shit? |
| 10:37.56 | Fisker | OH SNAP |
| 10:37.57 | miica | yeah activity times are kinda different |
| 10:38.10 | miica | war had 4s difference in 24s fight |
| 10:38.31 | Torhal | Fisker: Yep. On my todo. This is the first time I've done anything significant with the AddOn in over a year. |
| 10:38.53 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 10:39.12 | Torhal | Though I'd have to figure out a nice way to save/query the cached data. |
| 10:39.29 | Torhal | May end up not doing it. It's fast enough as-is. |
| 10:39.49 | Fisker | sound is annoying though |
| 10:39.59 | Torhal | I can fix that. |
| 10:44.40 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:48.55 | olafski | hm now I feel bad.. "we are currently designing frost as a DW-only tree." |
| 10:49.03 | olafski | I've been tanking with a 2h in frost spec for months : |
| 10:51.01 | asmodai | olafski: eh? |
| 10:51.33 | olafski | blizzard said on that twitter chat that frost is meant to be a DW tree |
| 10:51.39 | olafski | but I've been using it with a 2hander :P |
| 10:51.47 | olafski | I'm going against blizzard's design! woe is me :( |
| 10:55.41 | SunTsu | olafski: you prolly would do better when dual wielding or with blood specc |
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| 11:00.08 | olafski | but I like frost :( tried blood, didn't really like it.. I use that for dps though |
| 11:05.48 | Grum | frost is nice in heroics, such easy aoe aggro :) |
| 11:08.28 | olafski | exactly |
| 11:08.38 | olafski | D&D + howling blast and I can just sit back |
| 11:08.48 | olafski | doesn't feel like I have that with blood |
| 11:09.03 | Grum | no, blood means working for aoe tps |
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| 11:09.23 | olafski | I think I did have corpse explosion with my blood spec but that didn't seem to help much.. plus it's enabled after a while instead of at the start |
| 11:09.47 | Grum | dnd, it, ps, pestilence and then pray your bloodtap is up for a quick bloodboil |
| 11:10.17 | Grum | but anyone doing a single-target nuke on the target you are not melee-swinging on will pull aggro on that mob |
| 11:10.41 | Grum | then again, DG + 6s taunts (with 2pt9) make it not that much of a problem |
| 11:10.51 | olafski | yeah.. I'll stick with frost I guess ;) |
| 11:11.13 | Grum | singletarget is not that awesome as frost though :) |
| 11:11.24 | olafski | such lovely aoe threat especially with rime up |
| 11:11.33 | olafski | myeah.. but heroic bosses hardly last more than 20 seconds anyway |
| 11:12.15 | asmodai | poor olafski |
| 11:12.15 | Grum | yeah, raiding is a diff story though |
| 11:13.15 | olafski | not really an issue for me ;p |
| 11:13.26 | Grum | :) |
| 11:13.31 | Grum | wtb tripple spec :( |
| 11:13.39 | Grum | so i could have a frost spec just for instances |
| 11:13.56 | olafski | I've been considering getting into a raiding guild but I still don't see it working out for me.. so I'll stick to heroics :) |
| 11:14.08 | Grum | timewise? |
| 11:14.29 | olafski | I don't like having to show up on specific nights and having to stay online a whole night |
| 11:14.39 | olafski | I like raiding but not the responsibility it comes with :P |
| 11:15.05 | olafski | my gf's guild has an attendance requirement of two times per week.. I'd like to raid at most once per week and there are no guilds that do that :P |
| 11:15.22 | Grum | really social ones |
| 11:15.32 | olafski | yeah but then those come with sucky players |
| 11:15.43 | Grum | but yeah raiding usually comes with 2-4 hour blocks |
| 11:15.54 | olafski | what I'd really like is a guild that raids once per week but is really good at it nonetheless :P |
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| 11:16.21 | Grum | its near impossible to have that though :) |
| 11:16.24 | olafski | I joined some "sort of social" guild, they raided but most of them sucked, there are more joking around than playing in the raids |
| 11:16.26 | Grum | unless you overclass content by a lot |
| 11:16.37 | olafski | "lol you don't have to move out of the fire, it's normal mode!" |
| 11:16.56 | olafski | while that may be true, being inefficient really bugs me :P |
| 11:17.00 | Grum | i say; toc normal, beasts :p |
| 11:17.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah only the very best guilds will be like that, but they will have done a lot more than 1 day a week while they were first doing the content |
| 11:17.11 | Grum | and you'd better move then hehe |
| 11:17.28 | olafski | it was on jaraxxus I think |
| 11:17.30 | Grum | ah yeah, once you get better the 3-4 days drop to 1-2 days |
| 11:17.55 | Grum | those flames kill on normal, each 'stack' droping on the floor does individual damage, it will kill :D |
| 11:17.57 | olafski | well, the ability to extend raid lockouts should open up the possibility for this thing that I want.. the only problem is getting 9 other people to want it |
| 11:18.06 | olafski | grum: yah I know but they didn't see it that way |
| 11:18.15 | olafski | and they were like "omg we've done this before, you haven't so be quiet" |
| 11:18.29 | Grum | and then they died? |
| 11:18.35 | olafski | even though my guild did it the first week jaraxxus was released |
| 11:18.40 | olafski | nah we made it |
| 11:18.51 | olafski | but still.. why bother the healers with your inability to move and then joke about it |
| 11:19.02 | Grum | i wouldnt heal them :p |
| 11:19.11 | olafski | me neither but I'm a tank, not much to do |
| 11:19.17 | olafski | and my gf is too nice, she heals everybody |
| 11:19.30 | olafski | now she's in a guild that pretends to be hardcore :P |
| 11:19.31 | Grum | ;) |
| 11:20.00 | olafski | .. yet they claim they don't have the gear to kill festergut |
| 11:20.04 | Grum | how 'hardcore' is it? :p |
| 11:20.06 | Grum | 10m? |
| 11:20.14 | olafski | 25m too but they don't always have 25 people available |
| 11:20.26 | olafski | they raid 3 times a week, I think it's about 50/50 between 25man and 2x 10man |
| 11:20.38 | Grum | tbh, festergut is quite the good 'meter' on 25m |
| 11:20.52 | Grum | you really cannot have slack dps in for that fight |
| 11:20.58 | olafski | sure but they're all saying "waah waah waah I can't do the dps for this" |
| 11:21.05 | olafski | it's not like they live to see the enrage timer.. |
| 11:21.28 | Grum | hmm well its quite easy to see if you have enough dps :) |
| 11:21.35 | Grum | but unless you get to berserk, who cares ;) |
| 11:21.52 | olafski | people are dying way before the enrage/berserk |
| 11:22.01 | olafski | I'd say if anything they should have one more healer |
| 11:22.14 | olafski | if they can then hit the timer without anyone dying they can worry about the dps |
| 11:22.54 | Grum | if anything other than a tank dies on that fight you have yet to master it |
| 11:23.00 | olafski | yep |
| 11:23.01 | TNSe| | dundundun |
| 11:23.04 | TNSe| | heh |
| 11:23.14 | TNSe| | I love the problem with tanks that don't understand they should stop making threat... |
| 11:23.19 | TNSe| | and suddenly BOOM |
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| 11:23.41 | olafski | dead, dead, dead! |
| 11:23.51 | Grum | yeah, your white damage doing ~12k tps :p |
| 11:24.02 | Grum | oh hai, shit another stack poof dead |
| 11:24.19 | TNSe| | all paladins tossing BoS on the old tank is really nice |
| 11:24.27 | TNSe| | then he can just dps like maddafuka |
| 11:24.32 | Grum | HoS but yeah |
| 11:24.35 | olafski | hm. tanks get more damage? I should read about this fight again ;p |
| 11:24.39 | TNSe| | I'm oldschool :( |
| 11:24.55 | Grum | olafski: the buff stacking on the tank increases the damage the tank does to the boss |
| 11:24.58 | olafski | ah gastric bloat |
| 11:25.07 | Grum | but at 10 stacks the tank goes insta-death |
| 11:25.14 | TNSe| | + raie |
| 11:25.15 | TNSe| | raid |
| 11:25.22 | Grum | +raid? no |
| 11:25.25 | TNSe| | no? |
| 11:25.26 | Grum | no |
| 11:25.40 | olafski | hmm |
| 11:25.41 | TNSe| | could have sworn raid got blown up once :P |
| 11:25.49 | olafski | if they explode while people have 3 stacks of that inoculation perhaps not |
| 11:25.50 | Grum | just the tank dies |
| 11:25.52 | TNSe| | worst I've ever had was a massively chained pukefest |
| 11:26.06 | olafski | most guides I've seen agree that the tank should never reach 10 stacks because it'll be a wipe oO |
| 11:26.10 | TNSe| | it somehow got chained into melee. |
| 11:26.17 | Grum | yeah lol we had a hunter accidentally taunting the boss and the melee got puked on :P |
| 11:26.26 | Grum | olafski: you taunt at 9 stacks |
| 11:26.29 | TNSe| | from casters -> melee |
| 11:26.30 | Grum | so yeah, cannot get 10 stacks |
| 11:26.43 | TNSe| | so massive pukefest |
| 11:26.54 | TNSe| | I love that fight as shadowpriest |
| 11:27.00 | TNSe| | I don't have to move at all |
| 11:27.04 | Grum | but a tank with 9 stacks does shitloads of extra threat, enough to easily go over the tank who just taunted with just white damage |
| 11:27.18 | Grum | TNSe|: yeah i love that too indeed :) |
| 11:27.27 | olafski | grum: hmm. you let it wear off? |
| 11:27.31 | TNSe| | just a quick dispersion->cancel |
| 11:27.48 | TNSe| | + you do so much healing from VE |
| 11:27.52 | Grum | olafski: wear what off? |
| 11:27.55 | Grum | the debuff? |
| 11:27.56 | olafski | gastric bloat |
| 11:27.57 | olafski | yeah |
| 11:27.59 | Grum | yes |
| 11:28.09 | Grum | wait; i have no idea if the tank debuff is called that |
| 11:28.18 | Grum | the boss also has a debuff himself (stacks to 3, i think that is bloat) |
| 11:28.25 | olafski | I thought the idea was to let it stack to like 3, then have the other tank taunt, then both tanks slowly get up to 9 stacks and hope the boss is dead before one of them reaches 10 |
| 11:28.36 | olafski | no that's inhale blight |
| 11:28.48 | Grum | ah no, tank gets gastric bloat |
| 11:29.00 | Grum | and yeah, you let it wear off and then have the tank taunt again |
| 11:29.10 | Grum | olafski: lol that wont work |
| 11:29.15 | Grum | trust me, it wont :P |
| 11:29.21 | olafski | hmm |
| 11:29.49 | TNSe| | it should not be done that way, but you can kill boss that way |
| 11:29.56 | Grum | you have 3 tanks tanking, tank 1: 0->9; tank 2: 0->9 (by this time (at 8 stacks) the debuff drops of tank 1); tank 1 0->9 |
| 11:29.59 | TNSe| | you use that tac for prof putri tho |
| 11:30.04 | Grum | you cant TNSe| |
| 11:30.15 | Grum | its impossible with just 2 tanks; you need 3 at least |
| 11:30.19 | TNSe| | we can kill the boss before tank#2 reaches 8 |
| 11:30.24 | TNSe| | in 10 man |
| 11:30.27 | Grum | on 10m perhaps, not on 25m |
| 11:30.37 | TNSe| | indeed 10 man |
| 11:30.46 | TNSe| | its a possible way to do it but I'd not recommend it :P |
| 11:30.51 | Grum | on 10m you kill him before he does his second 'expunge' |
| 11:30.59 | Grum | if you are 25m geared and not slacking |
| 11:31.15 | olafski | it says it works on 25man with 2 tanks too |
| 11:31.27 | TNSe| | I also like sindragosa as shadow :P |
| 11:31.33 | Grum | olafski: who says it? |
| 11:31.37 | olafski | wowwiki |
| 11:31.38 | Grum | because, it doesnt, really :) |
| 11:31.59 | olafski | they say you can use 3 tanks to allow for a less tight tank rotation but you'll lose a dps |
| 11:32.11 | olafski | tnse|: maybe I was confusing this with putricide then |
| 11:32.56 | TNSe| | at putri you do like t1: 2 stacks, t2: 2 stacks, t3: 3 stacks, t1: 4 stacks ... |
| 11:33.13 | TNSe| | annoying boss. |
| 11:33.40 | olafski | that was probably it then |
| 11:33.41 | Grum | on 25m you *always* have 3 tanks tanking |
| 11:33.41 | olafski | my bad :) |
| 11:34.01 | Grum | but you can reuse the first one after the debuff fades |
| 11:34.06 | olafski | go edit the wowwiki description then grum ;) |
| 11:34.14 | Grum | url? |
| 11:34.24 | olafski | http://www.wowwiki.com/Festergut |
| 11:34.34 | olafski | I imagine the tanks provide a sizable amount of the dps in that fight then |
| 11:35.05 | Grum | the 2 tanks together do about ~7k |
| 11:35.13 | olafski | oh that's not too much |
| 11:35.25 | Grum | ah 10k even |
| 11:36.52 | olafski | heh I hit someone with a bottle in ironforge and they went offline in that same moment.. people all around were like "wtf did you just do" :P |
| 11:37.37 | Grum | if you do the minimum dps of 7.6k (with 17 people doing dps) then you'd have approx 300/12 = 25 stacks of gastric bloat .. so you cant possibly do it with 2 tanks without dropping the stack |
| 11:38.28 | olafski | who says you shouldn't drop the stack though? |
| 11:38.41 | olafski | according to that article the first tank is able to _just_ drop his stacks before the second tank reaches 10 |
| 11:39.50 | Grum | he is indeed, i think we're having a misunderstanding and both say the same! ;D |
| 11:40.13 | olafski | :P |
| 11:41.03 | olafski | bah why won't these battered hilts drop in price.. I need more of them |
| 11:41.10 | Grum | more even? :D |
| 11:41.29 | olafski | only have one atm |
| 11:41.33 | olafski | I want one for my druid too :P |
| 11:42.16 | Repo | 10blockoland: 03Rabbit * r5 lego.lua: Implement the three options we have so far. |
| 11:44.53 | SunTsu | and I want a droid |
| 11:46.48 | olafski | me too, an HK preferrably |
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| 11:46.50 | profalbert | hmm it seems blizzard leaks email-adresses |
| 11:47.28 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r126 Lockpicking.lua: Added empty Lockpicking.lua |
| 11:47.36 | Grum | profalbert: how? :) |
| 11:47.57 | profalbert | I don't know, but I just got a phishing-mail to an adress that I don't use anywhere else |
| 11:48.01 | profalbert | but my wow-account |
| 11:48.11 | profalbert | even on curse and stuff I use another email |
| 11:48.27 | olafski | could use those gmail tags to be certain of such things |
| 11:48.39 | Grum | gmail tags? :D |
| 11:48.56 | olafski | yeah something like yourGmailUserName+wow@gmail.com for signing up |
| 11:48.59 | SunTsu | profalbert: could be some local part brute forcing, though |
| 11:49.09 | olafski | the mail would still go to yourGmailUserName@gmail.com but it would have a "tag" with wow in it |
| 11:49.16 | olafski | at least I think that's how it works |
| 11:49.20 | olafski | there are probably other ways to do it too ;) |
| 11:49.23 | profalbert | It's not a gmail-address |
| 11:50.03 | olafski | I'm just saying you could figure it out that way :P |
| 11:50.07 | Fisker | HEY profalbert |
| 11:53.07 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r127 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added support for lockpicking. |
| 11:53.09 | Repo | Saved current sound effects state and then disabled it before opening the tradeskill menu(s), and re-set the saved value afterward. |
| 11:53.10 | Repo | Populated Lockpicking.lua with lockbox IDnums and common.CanPick() |
| 11:53.11 | Repo | Added Lockpicking.lua to the ToC. |
| 11:53.12 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:53.17 | Fisker | bam |
| 11:53.36 | Torhal | Fisker: Bwomph. No annoying sound, and you can pick lockboxes. Woor. |
| 11:53.55 | Fisker | wha? where'd that come from? |
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| 11:54.36 | Torhal | I just added it, while you were ignoring Repo. |
| 11:54.39 | vhaarr | Torhal: brain twitching is what .. good/bad? |
| 11:54.56 | vhaarr | I added some images now if that would soothe your twitching brain |
| 11:55.02 | Torhal | vhaarr: Well, I approved the project. Couldn't have been entirely bad. |
| 11:55.17 | Torhal | The whole Eiffel tower thing. And starving. |
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| 11:56.35 | Fisker | no Torhal |
| 11:56.36 | Fisker | l2raid |
| 11:57.15 | Torhal | Fisker: nowai. Enjoy the lack of tradeskill sounds. |
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| 12:06.47 | Repo | Fixed the default modifier2, and moved to global rather than per-character settings. |
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| 13:03.04 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032010/mufasa_and_simba.jpg |
| 13:03.13 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 13:09.37 | krka | aww |
| 13:09.50 | krka | cute cats are cute |
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| 13:32.56 | asmodai | Wobin: Funny since I was showing this to my colleague: http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032010/mufasa_and_simba.jpg |
| 13:32.59 | asmodai | grrr |
| 13:33.02 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BknT3VbqeH4 |
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| 14:11.52 | harl | wuff |
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| 14:25.10 | Groktar | nibbles on your soul |
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| 15:22.01 | Groktar | Kaelten excess flood? omg spammer! |
| 15:22.27 | sztanpet | http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2010/02/the-geek-joke-of-the-week.html |
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| 15:23.54 | asmodai | heh |
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| 15:25.27 | Groktar | shell1c40:/$ ls |
| 15:25.28 | Groktar | ls: .: Permission denied |
| 15:25.30 | Groktar | D: |
| 15:27.14 | asmodai | fail |
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| 15:40.30 | SunTsu | Groktar: looks b0rked |
| 15:41.12 | quiescens | its okay |
| 15:41.17 | quiescens | he probably borked it in the first place |
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| 15:42.13 | SunTsu | quiescens: I never said I felt pity :> |
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| 15:45.57 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 16:18.35 | Groktar | ROFL |
| 16:18.39 | Groktar | oh my GOD |
| 16:20.41 | quiescens | see |
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| 16:38.40 | Ackis | what was funny Groktar? |
| 16:44.44 | Groktar | mmm |
| 16:44.48 | Groktar | i can't say |
| 16:44.53 | Ackis | as! |
| 16:44.56 | Ackis | ass! |
| 16:44.57 | Groktar | :p |
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| 17:41.21 | asmodai | wooo |
| 17:41.27 | asmodai | Fisker: zealot rushed another protoss XD |
| 17:42.13 | asmodai | Only took me < 10 minutes to beat someone. I am not the worst player on SC2 :D |
| 17:45.49 | koaschten | anyone know if you can use stuff like /say [@mouseover] something bla here ? will it evalute the target variable? |
| 17:46.24 | olafski | you could try |
| 17:46.32 | quiescens | asmodai: second worst? |
| 17:46.35 | olafski | I'd try /w though, since /say doesn't normally take a variable |
| 17:47.00 | asmodai | quiescens: yes! |
| 17:47.01 | asmodai | :D |
| 17:47.25 | nevcairiel | koaschten: the chat commands dont do that, but it would be trivial for an addon to allow that |
| 17:47.26 | quiescens | there's no default thingy for that, you have to do silly looking /script stufff or get an addon that adds those sorts of capabilities |
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| 17:48.01 | asmodai | at least the zealots say en taro tessadar now |
| 17:48.08 | koaschten | na just had a guildmate ask if that was possible, he wanted a macro to /say [@mouseover] got Hand of protection ;) |
| 17:48.18 | nevcairiel | it doesnt work like that anyway |
| 17:48.53 | koaschten | uuh yeah that was %t and %f for target and focus... |
| 17:49.02 | koaschten | you could probably work around that with an elaborate macro |
| 17:49.32 | Mikk | a lua script in a macro certainly |
| 17:49.58 | koaschten | *think* something like /focus [@mouseover] /s %f blarg /clearfocus /targetlasttarget |
| 17:50.03 | koaschten | or some BS like that ;) |
| 17:50.53 | arkanes | there's a number of addons that will hook the spellcast event and do the chat message for you, one of those is probably going to be easier and more reliable than the macro |
| 17:51.17 | quiescens | targetlasttaret would seem ill-advised |
| 17:51.28 | Pneumatus | i do mine with a /run |
| 17:51.30 | arkanes | and lots of people use their focus for stuff |
| 17:51.30 | quiescens | target* |
| 17:51.58 | Pneumatus | #showtooltip Power Infusion\n/cast [target=mouseover] Power Infusion\n/run SendChatMessage('*-* You have the power! *-*', 'WHISPER', 'COMMON', UnitName('mouseover')) |
| 17:52.01 | quiescens | it is probably preferable to use an addon for it anyway |
| 17:52.48 | Pneumatus | it just dicks up when you spam the macro :< |
| 17:53.16 | quiescens | or if a target already has forbearance |
| 17:53.21 | quiescens | or if you're silenced or school locked |
| 17:53.28 | quiescens | or if the target is too far away |
| 17:53.34 | quiescens | or if the target is out of los |
| 17:53.40 | arkanes | yeah all those things |
| 17:53.44 | koaschten | /focus [@mouseover] |
| 17:53.45 | koaschten | /cast HoP |
| 17:53.45 | koaschten | /s %f HoP'd |
| 17:53.45 | koaschten | /clearfocus |
| 17:53.50 | arkanes | the addon can only do the whisper when the spell actually lands |
| 17:53.57 | koaschten | he said he doesnt use his focus |
| 17:54.01 | koaschten | so i am fine with it ;) |
| 17:54.05 | Pneumatus | AfterCast is supposedly supposed to be able to do things on success/fail/etc |
| 17:54.11 | Pneumatus | never tried it though |
| 17:54.18 | arkanes | although I think there actualy is some way to use /stopmacro if the spell failed? |
| 17:54.48 | Fisker | yay nevcairiel |
| 17:54.49 | Fisker | yaaaaaaay |
| 17:54.54 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 17:55.01 | Pneumatus | Iriel hasnt updated it since forever though, so it may not even work anymore |
| 17:55.14 | quiescens | if you really want to technically /run SendChatMessage(UnitName("mouseover") .. " HoP'd" )) |
| 17:55.15 | Fisker | http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSearch/toArticle.html?articleId=408789 |
| 17:55.31 | koaschten | Pneumatus i dont care enough to go any further than this strange macro i made ;) |
| 17:55.32 | quiescens | should do the thingy without using the focus |
| 17:55.51 | koaschten | Fisker you cant afford that anyway |
| 17:55.54 | koaschten | so stop yaying |
| 17:55.54 | Fisker | i can |
| 17:56.02 | quiescens | er |
| 17:56.18 | Pneumatus | /run SendChatMessage(UnitName('mouseover').." HoP'd", RAID) |
| 17:56.21 | Pneumatus | more like |
| 17:56.54 | quiescens | channel defaults to say |
| 17:57.06 | quiescens | and the macro they were planning on using uses /s |
| 17:57.07 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:57.09 | koaschten | no, to last active, doesnt it quiescens? |
| 17:57.11 | arkanes | Looks like can do something like /cast [@mouseover, noharm] and then /stopmacro [harm] |
| 17:57.16 | arkanes | which should let you abort the say |
| 17:57.23 | quiescens | no, pressing enter defaults to last used |
| 17:57.31 | quiescens | sendchatmessage itself defaults to say |
| 17:58.03 | quiescens | and even pressing enter only defaults to last used if the last used was one of the channels marked as sticky |
| 18:00.15 | Pneumatus | hahaha this man in the middle authenticator account hacking keylogger is originating from a fake wowmatrix site |
| 18:00.20 | Pneumatus | the irony |
| 18:00.30 | nevcairiel | rumor: its not fake |
| 18:00.32 | nevcairiel | go spread it |
| 18:00.36 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 18:00.55 | quiescens | o.O |
| 18:00.58 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 18:01.10 | arkanes | ITYM "rumour" |
| 18:01.16 | koaschten | they registered wowmatrix(a-z) and curse(a-z) .com |
| 18:01.20 | PProvost | Anyone seen anything on how widespread this is yet? Is it a few or a whole bunch of successful attacks? |
| 18:01.29 | arkanes | but not wowinterface[a-z]? |
| 18:01.32 | arkanes | scandalous! |
| 18:01.38 | Pneumatus | either the adwords has been pulled or something weird is happening on google |
| 18:01.42 | koaschten | PProvost i know of at least 5 incidents that are documented |
| 18:01.57 | PProvost | And more importantly, does anyone know what the vector is for the initial DLL installation |
| 18:02.15 | PProvost | Because that is the true vulnerability issue |
| 18:02.19 | koaschten | a generic trojan |
| 18:02.23 | koaschten | that can deliver a payload |
| 18:02.28 | PProvost | If they get bits on my machine, I'm hosed. Always has been that way. |
| 18:02.32 | arkanes | well if they have fake addon sites, it's probably a drive by attack hosted on those sites |
| 18:02.37 | koaschten | worldofraids got some details |
| 18:02.50 | Pneumatus | hmm, i must have a vm spare somewhere to check it out |
| 18:03.01 | koaschten | http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/15642-authenticator-keylogger-source-fake-wowmatrix-website |
| 18:03.10 | quiescens | pneumatus is probably one of them! |
| 18:03.28 | arkanes | looks like wowmatrixa and cursea etc resolve, but don't have servers at them anymore |
| 18:05.00 | koaschten | wowmatrixx and wowmatrixf resolved and loaded a verbatim copy yesterday for me |
| 18:05.44 | Pneumatus | wowmatrixf appears down to me atm |
| 18:05.55 | koaschten | chaud did some looking into it last night over @ gamesurge on #elitistjerks |
| 18:05.57 | arkanes | ah, they're distributing a modified version of the WoWmatrix addon manager |
| 18:06.16 | arkanes | so it's not even an exploit per se |
| 18:06.22 | koaschten | yeah google delivered an add as sponsored link if you searched wowmatrix and it lead to wowmatrixf |
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| 18:06.44 | arkanes | just good old trojan/social engineering/phishing |
| 18:07.15 | quiescens | everyone just likes to claim it was some sort of exploit |
| 18:07.17 | koaschten | it seems to attach a dll to wow in debug mode reading input |
| 18:07.19 | PProvost | So am I correct that these attackers aren't successfully taking over the account, but just owning it long enough to sell everything and dump the gold? |
| 18:07.25 | quiescens | because its not their fault their account got compromised |
| 18:07.45 | koaschten | PProvost probably, but they also can prevent a successful login from the infected machine |
| 18:07.52 | koaschten | as it hijacks wow and the account management pages |
| 18:08.04 | koaschten | and therefore prevents a login and password change until the malware is removed |
| 18:08.06 | PProvost | Yes, but without the authenticator they will eventually not be able to get in any more. |
| 18:08.09 | Pneumatus | i'd guess they just have the 1 attempt to strip the account |
| 18:08.13 | koaschten | so they got all the time they need to clear it |
| 18:08.34 | Pneumatus | as once they use the code they harvested it would become invalid, and the end user is gonna lock out the authenticator by failing attempts |
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| 18:09.01 | quiescens | their attempts are presumably blocked |
| 18:09.08 | koaschten | Pneumatus it doesn't become invalid after use, its invalidated after the TTL is over which is something between 30 and 60 seconds |
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| 18:09.35 | quiescens | it would be trivial to make the victim's computer suddenly act as though wow is down or something |
| 18:09.41 | koaschten | and the user cant throw them out because the malware prevents logins at from the infected client machine |
| 18:09.43 | quiescens | and noone would think much of it |
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| 18:09.59 | koaschten | provided new authenticator codes with every "failed" login |
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| 18:10.09 | quiescens | "oh auth servers are down again" |
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| 18:10.35 | Adirelle | weird |
| 18:11.26 | quiescens | if you really wanted to make it believable |
| 18:11.42 | quiescens | you intercept the client's request for the wowalert url thingy |
| 18:11.57 | Adirelle | I noticed something unexpected with two-level AceAddon-3 modules |
| 18:12.22 | quiescens | and put up a well crafted "we are experiencing issues with authentication servers" spiel |
| 18:12.51 | quiescens | what's the wording they usually use? |
| 18:13.33 | quiescens | "some users are unable to connect" etc? |
| 18:15.27 | koaschten | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/23425636414-cataclysm-stat--system-changes.html |
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| 18:20.50 | Pneumatus | bad times, hybrid casters sharing gear with healers |
| 18:21.25 | quiescens | healers are unimportant anyway! |
| 18:22.36 | pentium166 | so moonkin/elemental will want spirit and mage/lock won't? haven't read the post yet :p |
| 18:22.51 | Pneumatus | proper casters wont have spirit, hybrids will |
| 18:22.57 | Pneumatus | exactly |
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| 18:23.06 | asmodai | Fisker: Some advise on how to deal with roach rushers? |
| 18:23.23 | asmodai | Fisker: I managed to thwart his economics with zealots at first, but he came back fast with a shitton of roaches >_< |
| 18:24.16 | pentium166 | i am happy about that because it means i don't have to get an entirely new gear set if i want to blow people up in battlegrounds |
| 18:24.48 | pentium166 | well, i don't now but mp5 is pretty useless for elemental |
| 18:24.56 | Pneumatus | the saving grace is priests wont be sharing gear with anyone |
| 18:25.17 | Pneumatus | spirit will convert to hit for boomkins/elem shamans |
| 18:28.39 | Megalon | but then priests will whine that they are the only hybrid that has to get two gearsets for heal/dps |
| 18:28.42 | Megalon | ;o |
| 18:29.02 | Megalon | "but dr00dZ and shamz0rs only need t3h 0n3 set" |
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| 18:29.39 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar * r6 Locale.lua: - Added Korean translation |
| 18:29.41 | Repo | - Added Chinese + Taiwan translation |
| 18:31.06 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar 04v1.2 * r7 : Tagging as v1.2 |
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| 18:35.49 | nevcairiel | I like the gear reforging idea, lets see how that turns out |
| 18:38.31 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: also, in absence of other great gear, druids tend to pick up healing cloth :P |
| 18:39.09 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: true, but our rules at least wont allow a druid to take a cloth item over a cloth wearer |
| 18:39.33 | Megalon | it will be just like it is now |
| 18:39.41 | Megalon | oh, there is 0-1 leather piece on that slot |
| 18:39.46 | Megalon | but 2-3 cloth pieces |
| 18:39.48 | nevcairiel | Megalon: they can probably whine all they want, the fact just is that there is dps cloth gear for them, while they don't want to create dedicated boomkin gear |
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| 18:39.56 | Megalon | and guess what, the leather piece will be one of the worst |
| 18:39.58 | Megalon | hooray |
| 18:40.18 | nevcairiel | eh, the end-game leather is finally properly designed |
| 18:40.28 | Pneumatus | shame cloth isnt |
| 18:40.34 | Pneumatus | far too much spirit/mp5 flying about |
| 18:40.35 | nevcairiel | at least most parts |
| 18:40.36 | Pneumatus | and hit |
| 18:40.55 | Pneumatus | needs moar sp/crit/haste items |
| 18:41.01 | nevcairiel | i still hate when they have crit on them |
| 18:41.08 | nevcairiel | need sp/haste/spi! |
| 18:41.19 | nevcairiel | spi is a base stat anyway, its on all healy items |
| 18:41.34 | Pneumatus | discpriests prefer sp/haste/crit |
| 18:41.39 | Pneumatus | but they aren't so easy to come by |
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| 18:41.49 | nevcairiel | thats how boomkin leather looks :d |
| 18:42.01 | Pneumatus | boomkins take spirit dont they? |
| 18:42.15 | nevcairiel | eh, if its available, sure |
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| 18:42.34 | nevcairiel | but most boomkin items sacrifice spirit for both crit and haste on the items |
| 18:42.48 | Megalon | nev: you know that end-game gear doesn't count |
| 18:43.07 | Megalon | because they go all-out-apeshit on the last tier |
| 18:43.22 | nevcairiel | usually the entry level gear is still for the talent tree from 3 patches ago |
| 18:43.37 | Megalon | because there aren't any raids ahead where they have to be concerned about it |
| 18:43.39 | Pneumatus | i get a feeling discpriests are going to end up fairly heavily redesigned for cataclysm |
| 18:44.10 | pentium166 | all-out-apeshit with boatloads of arpen and hit on mail |
| 18:44.25 | nevcairiel | in 3.0 (and i think even 3.1), druid talents soft-capped haste pretty low |
| 18:44.26 | pentium166 | scaling hit on rings/heroic items = worst idea ever |
| 18:44.32 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r208 AllPlayed.toc: AllPlayed: |
| 18:44.34 | nevcairiel | then they changed talents, and you needed more haste |
| 18:44.34 | Repo | - Adding the koKR notes for the TOC file. I hope this works. |
| 18:44.45 | Pneumatus | hit is generally the worst idea ever, fortunatly its going as we know it |
| 18:44.48 | nevcairiel | but gear from 3.0 and 3.1 doesnt have that excess haste .P |
| 18:45.12 | Pneumatus | arguably i don't really need haste now either, FH is usually gcd capped |
| 18:45.51 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: it doesnt say hit is going away, does it? it just says hit is scaling differently on raid difficulty and that |
| 18:46.25 | nevcairiel | meaning you'll probably need to collect even more hit in end-game raids |
| 18:46.29 | Pneumatus | oh, sorry, hit is still going to be on caster cloth, but not hybrid gear |
| 18:46.39 | Pneumatus | hybrids will have spirit->hit conversion |
| 18:46.43 | Pneumatus | but normal casters wont |
| 18:46.58 | nevcairiel | yeah thats in there, but arent you a priest? :d |
| 18:47.09 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 18:47.15 | nevcairiel | so doesnt count for you |
| 18:47.19 | nevcairiel | you get to wear lock/mage gear! |
| 18:47.32 | Pneumatus | not for healing |
| 18:47.39 | Pneumatus | supposedly we're going to need spirit |
| 18:47.41 | nevcairiel | but healing doesnt need hit? :) |
| 18:47.53 | Pneumatus | except dispelling boss abilities :P |
| 18:48.23 | Pneumatus | the amount of wipes from missed dispells on iron council made baby jesus cry |
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| 18:49.02 | Pneumatus | but no, supposedly as a healing priest i'll only be directly sharing gear with other healing priests |
| 18:49.12 | Pneumatus | as all other cloth wearers will be taking gear with no spirit on |
| 18:50.26 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 18:50.43 | Pneumatus | but as disc, they are going to need to come up with a good reason for me to want spirit |
| 18:50.46 | Pneumatus | because at present there is none |
| 18:51.00 | nevcairiel | they'll just make you want it |
| 18:51.09 | nevcairiel | steal all your other mana regen |
| 18:51.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 18:51.32 | nevcairiel | anyway, in general i'm pretty excited about the changed, especially weapon skill going away .. i want to level a melee worgen :p |
| 18:51.35 | Pneumatus | who needs mana regen when you have a monster mana pool |
| 18:51.44 | nevcairiel | int also gives you less mana |
| 18:51.47 | nevcairiel | didnt you read! |
| 18:51.55 | Pneumatus | yes, thats not to say you cant still stack it hard |
| 18:52.10 | Pneumatus | and its more desirable to stack anyway seeing as it converts to spellpower |
| 18:52.34 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:52.35 | Pneumatus | i wonder if int will go to a red socket |
| 18:52.42 | Pneumatus | im guessing it probably will |
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| 18:53.31 | Pneumatus | even if they keep SP gems they probably would need to put int on the same color (much like str/agi are red along with ap) |
| 18:53.46 | nevcairiel | i dont think they'll keep gems that provide SP |
| 18:53.53 | nevcairiel | they said that only weapons will provide SP |
| 18:54.32 | Pneumatus | so that will leave casters with int on red, haste/crit on yellow and hit/spi on blue i guess |
| 18:54.37 | Groktar | mastery is cool |
| 18:54.48 | Groktar | +500 stat u like |
| 18:54.50 | Groktar | heh |
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| 18:57.06 | nevcairiel | will be kinda funny to see locks that wear +spi items now ending up with a item that was converted to a healing item :d |
| 18:57.29 | Pneumatus | yeh, the transition is gonna be weird |
| 18:57.39 | nevcairiel | granted it won't last for long .. just 4.0 for a month, and then a week of leveling and replacing gear |
| 18:58.51 | SunTsu | that's going to be some dark healing.. |
| 18:59.10 | nevcairiel | cant wait for beta any longer, giev :( |
| 18:59.39 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r130 Localization/devel-enUS.lua: Added devel-enUS.lua |
| 18:59.58 | nevcairiel | also why is today the first of the month, grr |
| 19:00.15 | nevcairiel | i only needed 1 more day of curse points to be able to order my new AV Receiver |
| 19:00.45 | SunTsu | because "Murphy he loves you" |
| 19:01.36 | koaschten | http://www.isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0027-msgbox-helpfile-ie.txt |
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| 19:02.15 | nevcairiel | xp, those people are doomed anyway |
| 19:03.39 | nevcairiel | but hey, at least they gave MS 3 years to fix it |
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| 19:05.17 | Fisker | that's not fair |
| 19:05.24 | Fisker | 3 years is way too quickly disclosed! |
| 19:06.07 | haste | xp gets three years, while linux gets 7 days :D |
| 19:06.28 | nevcairiel | on linux you can already fix the bug and send in a patch with the disclosure |
| 19:10.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2875 Constants.lua: Added private.item_qualities table. |
| 19:12.58 | asmodai | Fisker: *poke* |
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| 19:20.57 | Fisker | omg you punctured me |
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| 19:23.14 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r131 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed a localization entry. |
| 19:23.16 | Repo | Updated localization in code. |
| 19:23.17 | Repo | Replaced L["2H Weapon"] with _G.ENCHSLOT_2HWEAPON. |
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| 19:29.06 | asmodai | Fisker: yes I did |
| 19:29.16 | asmodai | Fisker: Still around? :P |
| 19:30.32 | Megalon | you probably punctured him to death |
| 19:31.20 | asmodai | Megalon: heh |
| 19:31.20 | nevcairiel | just ordered a new screen |
| 19:31.27 | asmodai | Megalon: Is that wishful thinking? :) |
| 19:31.33 | Megalon | orders a bouquet for asmodai |
| 19:31.50 | Fisker | i'm bleeding out here |
| 19:32.27 | Megalon | he is bleeding, give him aspirin |
| 19:32.49 | nevcairiel | alot of it |
| 19:32.54 | asmodai | Fisker: So |
| 19:33.02 | asmodai | Fisker: How do us Protoss counter roach spam? |
| 19:33.16 | asmodai | Stalkers or Immortals? |
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| 19:33.39 | asmodai | Guess Immortals might be overkill. |
| 19:33.48 | asmodai | Since the shields probably help zilch. |
| 19:34.07 | Fisker | about 30 carriers should do the trick |
| 19:34.24 | asmodai | .oO(Should've seen *that* coming) |
| 19:34.41 | Fisker | I've not played vs zerg much |
| 19:34.52 | Fisker | B |
| 19:34.58 | Fisker | But the times i do, i just rush them |
| 19:35.05 | asmodai | With zealots? |
| 19:35.08 | Fisker | yeah |
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| 19:35.27 | Fisker | Dual-gateway proxy outside/in their base :P |
| 19:35.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2876 Constants.lua: Added private.item_quality_names table. |
| 19:35.47 | asmodai | Did that at first, managed to disrupt his economy decently. |
| 19:36.15 | Fisker | had a really cocky one where i went behind his mineral line on scrap station i think it was |
| 19:36.20 | Fisker | then i put a gateway there |
| 19:36.24 | Fisker | and he couldn't get to the pylon :D |
| 19:36.33 | asmodai | heh |
| 19:36.55 | asmodai | Mmm, lets try another battle |
| 19:37.20 | Megalon | I think day[9] had that on one show, pvz and roaches |
| 19:37.35 | Megalon | and immortals destroy them |
| 19:38.10 | asmodai | Megalon: stalkers seem too fragile against roaches as well >_< |
| 19:38.10 | Megalon | but can't remember which day[9] daily that was |
| 19:38.31 | asmodai | checks up on immortals |
| 19:39.38 | Fisker | Lets rage over cataclysm changes though |
| 19:40.08 | Fisker | find it kinda annoying that they'll be scaling bosses over the length of the expansion |
| 19:40.11 | Megalon | roaches are armored, and immortals have an 150% bonus vs those |
| 19:40.29 | Megalon | and I think they have range advantage too |
| 19:45.02 | Torhal | Ackis: NOOB |
| 19:45.08 | Fisker | LETS RAGE |
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| 19:47.03 | Megalon | yea, lets rage |
| 19:47.15 | Megalon | that should increase bloodpressure |
| 19:47.29 | arkanes | I dont like the idea that tank plate will have less stam than DPS plate because they take the gem budget out of the stam |
| 19:47.48 | arkanes | that seems crazidiculous |
| 19:47.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2877 Datamine.lua: |
| 19:47.58 | Repo | have the dataminer print out the name of the quality instead of the number |
| 19:48.51 | pentium166 | plate dps with 25% more hp than everyone else, round 2 |
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| 19:52.17 | olafski | is there any debuff that does the same as Mangle? wowwiki.com/Bleed doesn't have anything on it, but sometimes when I press Mangle it doesn't show up on the target |
| 19:52.29 | PProvost | miss? |
| 19:53.10 | olafski | mm not this consistently |
| 19:53.21 | olafski | I think it is some rogue thing.. it never happens when there's no rogue in the group :P |
| 19:53.26 | PProvost | Maybe it is there and your buff list is filtering? |
| 19:53.44 | olafski | hm |
| 19:53.49 | olafski | but why only sometimes then :/ |
| 19:53.56 | nevcairiel | warriors have something like that |
| 19:53.58 | PProvost | Mangle and Trauma are the same I think |
| 19:54.07 | PProvost | http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?41189-which-buffs-debuffs-overwrite-each-other |
| 19:54.26 | nevcairiel | yeah, trauma is it |
| 19:54.28 | nevcairiel | arms warriors |
| 19:54.33 | olafski | ahh, trauma, thanks :) |
| 19:54.39 | olafski | gonna write something on wowwiki about this |
| 19:55.34 | Groktar | k, i think i am cancelling this webhost and asking for a refund |
| 19:55.36 | Groktar | this is retarded |
| 19:55.54 | Primer | what web host? |
| 19:56.10 | Groktar | every time i try to extract any kind of archive on their server |
| 19:56.11 | Primer | used to work at a web hosting place |
| 19:56.15 | Groktar | it screws up my permissions |
| 19:56.22 | Groktar | and i can't even ls |
| 19:56.24 | Groktar | D: |
| 19:56.37 | nevcairiel | sounds like user fail |
| 19:56.48 | Primer | maybe the archive itself has those perms set? |
| 19:56.55 | Primer | tar will preserve that |
| 19:57.00 | Groktar | even if it did |
| 19:57.04 | nevcairiel | only when you extract it with - |
| 19:57.06 | nevcairiel | -p |
| 19:57.08 | Groktar | why would it screw up the parent directory? |
| 19:57.16 | Fisker | RAGE |
| 19:57.16 | Groktar | and i've tried it with both tar and zip |
| 19:57.30 | Primer | umask? |
| 19:57.39 | Groktar | i even downloaded it to my windows machine and zipped it, because i figured windows would eat everything |
| 19:57.55 | Primer | yeah, sounds like PEBKAC |
| 19:58.04 | nevcairiel | i dont think zips can even hold permissions |
| 19:58.09 | Groktar | yeah |
| 19:58.14 | Groktar | that's why i tried it |
| 19:58.21 | Groktar | after the tarball fail |
| 19:59.05 | olafski | now that I've solved the mangle mystery.. does anyone know if I can set up Skada to merge pets with owners, like Recount does? |
| 20:01.27 | Groktar | Primer: have a suggestion for a host that doesn't suck? it's just my guild website that nobody goes to |
| 20:01.51 | Primer | Groktar: doh, I'm in the same position as you. I run my guild's web site, and no one appreciates me |
| 20:01.58 | Primer | for doing it |
| 20:02.13 | Groktar | :/ |
| 20:02.25 | Primer | Groktar: I actually would not recommend the place I used to work for |
| 20:02.31 | Groktar | heh |
| 20:02.39 | durcyn | Groktar: i like linode personally |
| 20:02.46 | Primer | they don't offer shells, firstly |
| 20:02.52 | Primer | and it sounds like you have one |
| 20:03.08 | Groktar | i don't *need* it |
| 20:03.09 | Primer | I run my guild's web site on my own hosting VM |
| 20:03.12 | Groktar | it's just convenient |
| 20:03.19 | Primer | but it's just that, a VM |
| 20:03.30 | Primer | $91 a month for 2 cores, 2g ram, 100g disk |
| 20:03.43 | Primer | but it's paid for by some of my legacy hosting clients |
| 20:05.31 | Groktar | ohhai |
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| 20:09.37 | Superfly_ | has anyone tried AVR on putri, is it really paints the ground where goo will be dropped? |
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| 20:12.00 | orionshock | Superfly_, it has problems but it has great promise for doing exactly what it says. the author just needs to polish the math a bit :) |
| 20:12.38 | Superfly_ | cool, it will make putri fight easy |
| 20:14.47 | olafski | what's AVR? :$ |
| 20:15.31 | orionshock | it draws circles on the ground for others to look at |
| 20:15.43 | orionshock | !desc AVR |
| 20:15.45 | olafski | how can it do that oO |
| 20:15.47 | olafski | @desc AVR |
| 20:15.54 | olafski | @describe AVR |
| 20:15.55 | orionshock | yeah @ |
| 20:15.56 | olafski | oO |
| 20:15.58 | Repo | olafski: http://www.wowace.com/addons/avr/. AVR. Augmented Virtual Reality. Draw and add markers in the 3d world. |
| 20:16.39 | orionshock | using complicated math it draws the texture on the UI and then moves it around as you turn |
| 20:17.01 | olafski | wow |
| 20:17.04 | olafski | that's pretty awesome :) |
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| 20:17.47 | orionshock | i give it one maybe 2 patches... there are no addon solutions for raider stupidity :) |
| 20:18.06 | olafski | one maybe two and then blizzard blocks it? |
| 20:18.08 | olafski | or nobody uses it |
| 20:18.13 | olafski | cause it seems pretty damn useful to me |
| 20:18.28 | orionshock | smart players know where to stand :) |
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| 20:19.07 | orionshock | & no blizzard won't block it.. they might be arbitrary with API but they have never been capricious with specific addons |
| 20:20.12 | Gnarfoz | <Primer> $91 a month for 2 cores, 2g ram, 100g disk <-- ripoff much? oO |
| 20:20.16 | Gnarfoz | (taken totally out of context) |
| 20:20.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal 07master * dc96f84 / (82 files in 6 directories): [new, +1961 commits] (1957 truncated) |
| 20:20.49 | Repo | dc96f84: have the dataminer print out the name of the quality instead of the number |
| 20:20.50 | Repo | 3d01c1b: Added private.item_quality_names table. |
| 20:20.52 | Repo | b9ea870: Added private.item_qualities table. |
| 20:20.53 | Repo | 8f84d84: have it print out the name of the recipe when it says there's a quality discrepancy. |
| 20:21.22 | Primer | Gnarfoz: how so? |
| 20:21.27 | orionshock | hehe, Torhal finally merge ARL to git |
| 20:21.31 | Primer | show me a place where you can get a better deal, please |
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| 20:21.47 | Primer | note it's a fully functional linux system, where I have root |
| 20:22.05 | nevcairiel | it is ratehr pricy |
| 20:22.13 | nevcairiel | for that money i can get a i7 root |
| 20:22.25 | nevcairiel | with 8gb ram and 2tb hdd |
| 20:22.33 | Primer | unlikely |
| 20:23.38 | Gnarfoz | Primer: I have a whole i7 machine for 49eur with 2tb raid1 space and 8gb ram |
| 20:23.44 | Gnarfoz | unlimited traffic, too |
| 20:23.53 | nevcairiel | 91 USD are about 67 ⬠|
| 20:24.00 | nevcairiel | the first hoster page i opened |
| 20:24.39 | nevcairiel | i7 920, 8gb ram, 750gb space mirrored (so 1.5tb total) |
| 20:24.43 | nevcairiel | for 49 as well |
| 20:25.16 | nevcairiel | for 69 â¬, you get 12gb ram, and 1.5tb mirrored |
| 20:25.33 | Primer | don't see how they can make money off that |
| 20:25.54 | Primer | especially if you're describing a virtual machine where you have full control |
| 20:26.02 | nevcairiel | its a hardware server |
| 20:26.03 | Primer | i.e. a Xen host, running an image |
| 20:26.04 | nevcairiel | not virtual |
| 20:26.09 | Primer | even worse! |
| 20:26.23 | Primer | I would expect such a place to die off quickly |
| 20:26.32 | orionshock | lol why? |
| 20:26.34 | nevcairiel | its one of the biggest hosters in germany |
| 20:26.36 | nevcairiel | they stick around |
| 20:26.42 | Primer | they'd have to keep you as a client for years just to break even! |
| 20:27.00 | orionshock | & is that just un common or unusual ? |
| 20:27.15 | nevcairiel | although this one doesnt have unlimited traffic |
| 20:27.19 | nevcairiel | just 2TB inclusive |
| 20:27.20 | Primer | besides, I'd rather have a virtual machine that can be moved onto new hardware easily |
| 20:27.56 | Primer | "Oh, the hardware you were on died...it'll be a few days before we can replace it." |
| 20:28.04 | Primer | "sorry" |
| 20:28.22 | nevcairiel | eh, i've had a hardware server for several years now |
| 20:28.25 | nevcairiel | never had trouble |
| 20:28.27 | Primer | anyhow, I don't pay for it, the client that I charge $100 a month for doing nothing but hosting does :) |
| 20:28.45 | nevcairiel | and if something dies, they can pull the hdd and put it in a new server |
| 20:29.43 | Primer | which isn't instantaneous |
| 20:30.03 | Primer | Anyhow, I'll take a look at that |
| 20:30.03 | nevcairiel | if the server hosting your VM dies, its not instantaneous either |
| 20:30.22 | nevcairiel | also, VMs are usually pretty limited on hdd space |
| 20:30.29 | nevcairiel | which is somewhat of an annoyance for me |
| 20:30.31 | Primer | negative |
| 20:30.40 | Primer | as you can attach storage at runtime |
| 20:30.42 | nevcairiel | show me a VM with 750gb of space |
| 20:30.43 | Primer | as needed |
| 20:30.50 | Primer | I can show you several |
| 20:30.50 | nevcairiel | they charge like mad for that |
| 20:31.00 | Primer | my work crap's all on amazon EC2 |
| 20:31.44 | genetik- | is EC2 still pretty cheap? |
| 20:31.50 | Primer | I suppose the old adage applies: You get what you pay for |
| 20:31.58 | Primer | heh, I don't see the bill :) |
| 20:32.09 | Primer | but I'm pretty sure what we have is far from cheap |
| 20:32.13 | genetik- | ah, ok |
| 20:32.20 | Primer | I have some 1T volumes |
| 20:32.28 | Primer | and 7 running instances |
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| 20:33.28 | Primer | but as far as flexibility goes, nothing beats it |
| 20:33.29 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 07master * 7ac9e34 / (19 files in 3 directories): [new, +96 commits] (92 truncated) |
| 20:33.30 | Repo | 7ac9e34: Fixed a localization entry. |
| 20:33.32 | Repo | 8425e4e: Added devel-enUS.lua |
| 20:33.33 | Repo | bb9b3e2: Fixed the default modifier2, and moved to global rather than per-character settings. |
| 20:33.34 | Repo | ab947d8: Added support for lockpicking. |
| 20:33.48 | Primer | I guess that's what I'm paying for too |
| 20:34.11 | asmodai | jesus, that was one epic battle |
| 20:34.25 | Primer | nevcairiel: say I need more storage. I call my provider and say "attach another 500g onto my image". It can happen in as little as 1 minute, without taking the box down |
| 20:34.43 | Primer | as all they do is allocate the space on a SAN and attach it to the running Xen |
| 20:35.10 | Primer | dmesg...oh look, a new device! |
| 20:35.19 | Primer | mkfs, mount, done |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | eh, if you really must, you can get SAN storage on demand for hardware servers too |
| 20:36.08 | Groktar | walrus |
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| 20:37.03 | nevcairiel | VMs that are flexible like that and offer the same performance usually cost alot more then the i7 root i just quoted up there |
| 20:37.18 | Primer | surely |
| 20:37.43 | nevcairiel | considering a root with an i7, you cant provide VMs with that performance |
| 20:38.04 | Gnarfoz | regardless: if you have a good relationship with your provider, stick with it |
| 20:38.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:38.09 | Groktar | i just signed up for linode |
| 20:38.12 | Groktar | this is pretty cool |
| 20:38.18 | Primer | at those prices though, it really makes me wonder what hardware they supply |
| 20:38.31 | Primer | bulk rate, generic |
| 20:38.54 | Primer | I know that our amazon monthly fee is in the thousands of dollars |
| 20:38.55 | nevcairiel | ask Gnarfoz to give you a lspci |
| 20:38.59 | Gnarfoz | Primer: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/eq4/ |
| 20:39.54 | Primer | gets one, installs qemu-kvm, and resells images for profit |
| 20:40.17 | Gnarfoz | I'd venture many a customer of theirs does just that |
| 20:40.18 | nevcairiel | i believe they have a no-relase rule somewhere on there |
| 20:40.20 | Primer | oohh there's the catch |
| 20:40.26 | Primer | â¬149 setup fee |
| 20:40.29 | Primer | gg |
| 20:40.32 | Gnarfoz | nah, I don't think so nev |
| 20:40.41 | Gnarfoz | Primer: well, I went from 84eur to 49eur per month |
| 20:40.48 | Gnarfoz | I had that setup fee out after 4 months |
| 20:40.49 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 20:40.50 | nevcairiel | a one time fee isnt that bad |
| 20:41.18 | nevcairiel | if you plan to keep the server for say 2 years before getting a new one, that coems out to like nothing |
| 20:42.03 | NeoTron | I am currently paying $30 for host I share. it's rather weak by todays standards.. maybe I should shop around for alternatives |
| 20:42.05 | Primer | seems like a decent enough deal |
| 20:42.09 | NeoTron | I{ have a lot different use needs these days |
| 20:42.28 | nevcairiel | i pay 30 ⬠for my 5 year old server |
| 20:42.32 | nevcairiel | should really upgrade it |
| 20:42.53 | Primer | NeoTron: same here. All I use my server for is hosting my legacy clients, my own mail, and my guild's web site |
| 20:42.58 | NeoTron | this one has 130GB disk, 1 GB mem, celeron 3.06GHz |
| 20:43.13 | Primer | wow |
| 20:43.19 | nevcairiel | I'm too lazy to migrate my server |
| 20:43.23 | NeoTron | I don't really NEED more |
| 20:43.23 | nevcairiel | and its even worse then what NeoTron has |
| 20:43.39 | NeoTron | just wouldn't mind paying less :) |
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| 20:43.58 | Primer | I had free hosting for the 8 years before that from the company I worked for. I just had my own hardware in the data center |
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| 20:44.24 | nevcairiel | its kinda sad that colocate hosting is so expensive here |
| 20:44.34 | nevcairiel | or i would build me a nice 1HE and ship that to a datacenter |
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| 21:04.07 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.5.1 * 41fd67a /: [new tag] Tagging new release. |
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| 21:20.54 | Funkeh` | whos geneus idea was to make a healcom3 "wrapper" and shove it in grid |
| 21:21.09 | Funkeh` | yey for sending twice the amount of data for 1 person |
| 21:23.16 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.2-1.0.3-3-g8217642 Prefixes.lua: [+1 commit] Added two prefixes for the "GTFO" AddOn. |
| 21:27.51 | Repo | 10grid: 03funkydude * r1283 .pkgmeta: |
| 21:27.53 | Repo | Remove healcomm3 wrapper, if anyone thinks it still deserves to be here feel free to come on irc and justify it to me. |
| 21:28.13 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> its kinda sad that colocate hosting is so expensive here <-- chocolate hosting?! :o |
| 21:28.26 | Shadowed | Funkeh`: Because, it was basically the only way I could get people on board with LHC4 |
| 21:28.42 | nevcairiel | mmm chocolate hosting |
| 21:29.04 | Funkeh` | Shadowed, you do it the old fashioned way |
| 21:29.09 | Funkeh` | tell them to stop sucking and upgrade |
| 21:29.27 | ckknight | Shadowed: I got on-board right away :P |
| 21:29.29 | nevcairiel | so just remove the shit by now |
| 21:29.41 | Shadowed | You're welcome to go read the threads on it :P |
| 21:29.46 | Shadowed | but yes, I'd remove the wrapper at this point |
| 21:30.24 | Shadowed | As far as I know, the only popular addon that uses 3 is agUF, and that's unmaintained |
| 21:31.24 | Gnarfoz | <@Funkeh`> tell them to stop sucking and upgrade <-- except that has never worked before, ever |
| 21:31.27 | nevcairiel | hence why its still using 3 |
| 21:31.54 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 21:32.12 | Shadowed | yea |
| 21:37.14 | pompy | Funkeh`: it was greltok who added that |
| 21:39.14 | Shadowed | The wrapper was fine, it's just something that can pretty much get phased out at this point |
| 21:41.52 | pompy | anyone use GitExtensions? |
| 21:42.05 | Gnarfoz | no Shadowed, Funkeh` has decreed it "genius"! :P |
| 21:42.25 | Gnarfoz | pompy: wait, git already does my laundry and cooking, what do the extensions add? |
| 21:42.34 | Shadowed | Funkeh`: didn't have to deal with people complaining that LHC4 was useless without a wrapper for transition, so he can go to hell :P |
| 21:42.56 | pompy | Gnarfoz: http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ |
| 21:43.00 | Stanzilla | lhc4 spams too much! *hides* |
| 21:43.08 | Gnarfoz | idealist coders with no regard for the hundres of thousands of users their addons have ;) |
| 21:43.41 | nevcairiel | another explorer integration project? |
| 21:43.42 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm being offered a 70% rebate for online medicine for males! should I buy? |
| 21:43.44 | nevcairiel | its the third now |
| 21:44.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that doesn't look like explorer to me? |
| 21:44.23 | Adirelle | ckknight, how does the packager handle git submodules ? |
| 21:44.28 | ckknight | ignores em |
| 21:44.30 | Gnarfoz | oh well, it *has* a shell extension |
| 21:44.37 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: "Windows Explorer intergration for Git" .. first bullet point on features :p |
| 21:44.44 | Adirelle | ok |
| 21:44.47 | Gnarfoz | who looks at text, seriously! |
| 21:44.54 | Shadowed | text where |
| 21:45.02 | Gnarfoz | I don't see any text |
| 21:45.10 | Gnarfoz | they did it exactly right, lots of screenshots! :D |
| 21:45.16 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I just use http://www.syntevo.com/smartgit/index.html :> |
| 21:45.30 | nevcairiel | I just use git |
| 21:45.33 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:45.36 | Fisker | hey u Gnarfoz |
| 21:45.39 | Gnarfoz | hey u baddie |
| 21:45.40 | Fisker | wanna be with me? |
| 21:45.51 | Gnarfoz | yes, in a 2Pv2Z game |
| 21:46.15 | Gnarfoz | but you have to add sc2 beta to my account, first |
| 21:46.31 | ckknight | oh yea, if anyone likes SC2, be sure to join #sc2mapster |
| 21:46.43 | Torhal | ckknight: Gimmeh mah beta key |
| 21:46.48 | ckknight | no u |
| 21:46.53 | Torhal | Fffuuuuuu |
| 21:47.29 | asmodai | ckknight: why? :) |
| 21:47.31 | durcyn | ckknight: btw, from what i've seen so far, it looks like blizzard is contemplating an in-game publishing system for custom maps |
| 21:47.42 | ckknight | durcyn: known at BlizzCon 09 |
| 21:47.54 | durcyn | oh, well, i haven't been to blizzcon since 2005, so there. |
| 21:47.54 | ckknight | sc2mapster is going to be a developer and enthusiast site |
| 21:47.56 | ckknight | not a distribution site |
| 21:48.03 | ckknight | asmodai: because all the cool kids are there |
| 21:48.11 | asmodai | is not cool |
| 21:48.40 | nevcairiel | sues curse for using the mapster name |
| 21:48.45 | asmodai | rofl |
| 21:48.55 | asmodai | nevcairiel: so you pay for that colo after ;) |
| 21:49.34 | ckknight | nevcairiel: :P |
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| 21:49.42 | ckknight | nevcairiel: if you want, you can hang out with us |
| 21:49.51 | ckknight | it's gonna pretty much be a meritocracy system |
| 21:49.53 | nevcairiel | i hate map making |
| 21:49.57 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:50.02 | ckknight | then you shouldn't care :P |
| 21:50.43 | nevcairiel | also i usually dont play RTS more then singleplayer |
| 21:51.01 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 21:54.55 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r391 Options (11 files in 2 directories): --Fix Grid2 name in options |
| 21:54.56 | Repo | --lowercase debugging |
| 21:55.34 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r392 GridCore.lua: --Fix Grid2 name in options |
| 22:00.28 | Gnarfoz | I only play RTS multiplayer, most of the time :O |
| 22:00.56 | nevcairiel | we should share a copy of SC2 then |
| 22:01.35 | nevcairiel | i only play RTS multiplayer on lan partys with some friends, when its fun and all, not over internet usually |
| 22:01.57 | Gnarfoz | well, yeah, that |
| 22:01.58 | Gnarfoz | mosly |
| 22:02.03 | Gnarfoz | so we can't share :( |
| 22:02.13 | Gnarfoz | but hey, lan parties are for Diablo 3! |
| 22:02.31 | asmodai | If it still has LAN support :P |
| 22:03.04 | nevcairiel | even if its only internet, as long as i play with the guys sitting in the same room, its all great |
| 22:03.31 | nevcairiel | anyway, zzz |
| 22:05.03 | orionshock | does curse have an SC2 beta keys? |
| 22:05.13 | Kaelten | to give out? |
| 22:05.14 | Kaelten | not atm |
| 22:05.33 | Ackis | they have syphilis to give out, cept Kaelten he only has herpes |
| 22:05.34 | durcyn | i had an extra, but i gave it away, sorry orionshock, sorry |
| 22:05.36 | orionshock | ah, didn't think they where even doing closed beta.. tho im a bit behind the news |
| 22:06.02 | Torhal | Ackis: Kaelten doesn't wear a hairpiece |
| 22:06.11 | Ackis | :P |
| 22:07.26 | Gnarfoz | he's running around bald? :O |
| 22:09.28 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 22:10.04 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:10.07 | Ackis | I didn't do it! |
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| 22:12.09 | Pwnzlol | Sup playas (no pun intended) |
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| 22:12.58 | Pwnzlol | does this shit even work via GPRS -.- can u read that? |
| 22:13.04 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 22:13.11 | Pwnzlol | yeah :) |
| 22:13.33 | Pwnzlol | So wassup? |
| 22:14.34 | Pwnzlol | Well ima tell you whats down. My Internet... so i have to tether that ridiculous GPRS from my mobile =O |
| 22:15.40 | Pwnzlol | laugh at me, congratulate me but do something I'm so lonely =O |
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| 22:21.04 | Pwnzlol | hallo albert |
| 22:21.34 | profalbert | hi |
| 22:21.58 | Pwnzlol | mein internet geht net jetzt kann ich nicht zocken und hier redet keiner mit mir =O |
| 22:22.15 | Stanzilla | kühle geschichte, bruder |
| 22:22.48 | Pwnzlol | Is that a translator or just some adequate and eloquent way of talking :D? |
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| 22:23.45 | Pwnzlol | soo what classes are you playin? |
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| 22:29.02 | Pwnzlol | taaaalk! |
| 22:29.35 | Repo | 10grid2: 03StingerSoft * r393 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRu update |
| 22:34.30 | DWSR | Shefki! |
| 22:37.24 | Pwnzlol | I'm so boooored |
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| 22:41.13 | asmodai | Fisker: dude |
| 22:41.19 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ODTYcOTDko&hd=1 |
| 22:45.29 | Shefki | DWSR: What? |
| 22:47.38 | DWSR | Shefki: Can I use LuaTexts (from PB4) and adapt it for one of my addons? |
| 22:51.20 | Pwnzlol | what addon are u makin? |
| 22:51.30 | DWSR | Pwnzlol: I'm updating Aloft. |
| 22:51.47 | Shefki | Sure. |
| 22:52.21 | Pwnzlol | sounds interesting, DWSR, I am a C++ developer but never have done anything inside that wow framework, how does that work out? |
| 22:54.11 | DWSR | Workably? |
| 22:54.16 | DWSR | I don't know exactly how to answer that. |
| 22:54.38 | Pwnzlol | just say whether its shit or awesome |
| 22:54.44 | DWSR | It's awesome |
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| 22:58.55 | Repo | 10blockoland: 03Rabbit * r8 lego.lua: Sound tick when toggling checkboxes. |
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| 23:06.37 | miica | i got addon idea! :) |
| 23:06.57 | miica | i am arcane mage and i have always problems to figure out which is better sp or haste |
| 23:07.04 | miica | or how much haste need to win x amount sp |
| 23:07.21 | Pwnzlol | tell it! |
| 23:07.36 | miica | so we just calculate it with addon :D |
| 23:07.36 | Pneumatus | 1) rawr, 2) ..., 3) profit? |
| 23:07.53 | miica | atleast rawr don't work with me |
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| 23:08.05 | miica | it is windblows program |
| 23:09.26 | miica | i was thinking to calculate 4xAB+missile barrage rotation dps and then try to find same dps with x amount sp |
| 23:12.53 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1343 / (4 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 23:12.55 | Repo | - Wandering Plague now correctly uses melee crit chance |
| 23:12.56 | Repo | - Now takes into account a few bugs: Rage of Rivendare double stacks with Black Ice. Tundra Stalker double stacks on Frost Fever from Howling Blast. Rage of Rivendare double stacks on Blood Plague. Sigil of Awareness adds 292 base damage to Scourge Strike, not 189. |
| 23:12.58 | Repo | - The damage Necrosis is calculated from is now correctly mitigated by armor |
| 23:12.59 | Repo | - Disease damage is additive on Obliterate. The Glyph is also additive. |
| 23:13.37 | Pwnzlol | mh |
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| 23:13.48 | Pwnzlol | Does anyone know when the honor system change goes live? |
| 23:15.35 | ckknight | 3.3.3 |
| 23:15.50 | ckknight | @describe blockoland |
| 23:15.52 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blockoland/. Blockoland. LDB display addon with one Blockoblock per plugin. |
| 23:15.58 | Pwnzlol | and when does 3.3.3 goe live :D? |
| 23:16.08 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 23:16.09 | miica | how i calculate 4xAB and missile barrage dps :3 |
| 23:16.26 | Gagorian | well you can use DrDamage for that |
| 23:17.11 | Gagorian | Well, not directly but with a pen and some paper quite easily enough |
| 23:17.38 | arkanes | paper? |
| 23:17.51 | arkanes | what do you think we are, some sort of barbarians? |
| 23:18.25 | Gagorian | *looks at a huge stack of damage numbers scribbled on papers all around his computer* |
| 23:18.41 | arkanes | speaking off |
| 23:18.41 | Gagorian | Umm... |
| 23:19.00 | arkanes | you know off hand if the damage bonus from a hemo charge is increased by the attackers damage buffs? |
| 23:19.29 | koaschten | its kind of redistributed weapon max dmg |
| 23:19.38 | koaschten | its the worst raid buff you can bring |
| 23:19.44 | arkanes | hemos a static damage per chrge |
| 23:20.00 | Gagorian | I don't think it is |
| 23:20.03 | arkanes | or do you mean it's caclulated as additional weapon damage? That would actualyl scale a lot |
| 23:20.17 | Gagorian | I think it's a flat bonus on top |
| 23:20.45 | Gagorian | It's very easily tested though.. If I had a rogue! |
| 23:22.00 | Gagorian | I've just gone through all classes, specs, abilities and glyphs except Rogue and Warrior |
| 23:22.20 | Mikk | afaik hemo doesn't scale - in the same way that e.g. battleshout doesn't scale |
| 23:23.40 | arkanes | i'm not really modelling it as a raid buff, but for comparison purposes between it and backstab |
| 23:25.36 | arkanes | hmm, it says 'up to 121' |
| 23:26.08 | Gagorian | reduced by armor |
| 23:26.12 | Gagorian | hence up to? |
| 23:26.16 | arkanes | probably |
| 23:26.40 | arkanes | flying to a dummy now |
| 23:27.32 | Gagorian | Let me know if it's reduced by armor or not as I haven't tested it yet |
| 23:27.41 | Gagorian | Stupid PTR with 4 premade char copies |
| 23:28.40 | arkanes | aargh DCed the instant I fly into dal |
| 23:30.07 | NeoTron | should make an LDB display that makes each thing into a lego block |
| 23:30.18 | NeoTron | then you can build lego castles using your blocks! |
| 23:31.49 | Shadowed | I'm amazed that LegoBlock survived |
| 23:31.52 | Shadowed | it should havedied :> |
| 23:31.55 | Shadowed | + |
| 23:35.11 | Pneumatus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6DMaimg03E is clearly the best use of lego |
| 23:35.21 | Gagorian | arkanes: It's way easier to test with a white shitty weapon |
| 23:35.24 | Gagorian | With a minimal damage range |
| 23:35.56 | arkanes | Gagorian: I'm just using gougge |
| 23:35.56 | Gagorian | Unless you already are doing that of course :) |
| 23:36.18 | Gagorian | That works too if you only need to test that |
| 23:36.28 | Gagorian | (hemo buff that is) |
| 23:36.34 | arkanes | I had a talent that increased its damage somewhere and I'm trying to figure it out |
| 23:37.16 | Gagorian | mm.. you can check for global damage modifiers via /print select(7,UnitDamage("player")) |
| 23:37.19 | arkanes | I wish there was an easier way to toggle talents on and off than respeccing :( |
| 23:37.32 | arkanes | I think sinister callings tooltip is lies |
| 23:37.50 | Gagorian | arkanes: you don't say.. Guess how many times I've respecced... |
| 23:39.21 | arkanes | yes, it is |
| 23:39.31 | arkanes | or at least its interaction with hemos tooltip is lies |
| 23:40.11 | arkanes | it says "increases the percentage damage bonus of hemorhagge and backstab by an additional 2%" |
| 23:40.23 | arkanes | but the hemo tooltip updates as if it were a flat 2% damage bonus to hemo, including the charge damahe |
| 23:40.35 | arkanes | respeccing again to test consistency... |
| 23:42.10 | arkanes | crap getting sinister calling will increase my AP which messes up my tests |
| 23:53.43 | arkanes | well |
| 23:54.10 | arkanes | the bonus damage is affected by armor, but maybe not by arp? |
| 23:54.33 | arkanes | base bonus is 110, tooltip says 121, observed is 59 |
| 23:54.57 | arkanes | but observed armor reduction on non-hemoed gouge is 78%, which should be 85-86 extra damage |
| 23:55.34 | arkanes | crit does give double the bonus damage |
| 23:57.03 | Gagorian | That isn't exactly logical... |
| 23:57.04 | Gagorian | :P |
| 23:57.55 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1344 Changelog.txt: - Updated Changelog for 1.7.6 release |
| 23:58.01 | arkanes | just noticed I was hitting a level 70 dummy, checking again on an 80 |
