| 00:00.06 | Superfly_ | or i have to get the spellname via spellinfo, check it, and check if the spellids are the same? |
| 00:01.16 | Gnarfoz | Superfly_: should be possible directly these days |
| 00:01.18 | Gnarfoz | !api unitaura |
| 00:01.19 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'unitaura': UnitAura, GameTooltip:SetUnitAura |
| 00:01.27 | Gnarfoz | well, the first one |
| 00:01.30 | Gnarfoz | !api UnitAura |
| 00:01.31 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
| 00:01.50 | Superfly_ | yeah but if i say dump UnitAura("player",spellid) that doesnt work |
| 00:02.10 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 00:02.28 | Gnarfoz | oh, hm |
| 00:02.37 | Gnarfoz | well the page doesn't say that's possible, of course |
| 00:02.42 | arkanes | thats because thats not how UnitAura works |
| 00:02.57 | Gnarfoz | it is how it *should* work because they already give us spellid now |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | but that's not how it works, indeed |
| 00:03.17 | arkanes | there's some different APIs that work by name/spellid |
| 00:03.30 | Gnarfoz | UnitAura *returns* spellid |
| 00:03.44 | Gnarfoz | but doesn't take it for it's "check if unit has aura" functionality |
| 00:03.57 | Gnarfoz | only for "which aura does unit a have at index n?" |
| 00:04.37 | Caleb| | UnitAura(unitId,GetSpellInfo(spellId)) ? |
| 00:04.50 | Caleb| | should return nil if it doesn't have it |
| 00:04.50 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: yes of course, but that's not what he asked |
| 00:04.50 | arkanes | UnitBuff can tank a name |
| 00:04.53 | Caleb| | and lots of shizzle if it has it |
| 00:05.18 | Gnarfoz | or rather, he asked if you still have to do *that* or if you could finally do it directly by spellid these days ;) |
| 00:05.34 | Caleb| | don't think you can |
| 00:05.36 | arkanes | although apparently it cant take a spellid, which i thogh you could do |
| 00:06.09 | Superfly_ | [01:02:28] < Caleb|> UnitAura(unitId,GetSpellInfo(spellId)) ? |
| 00:06.16 | Superfly_ | the problem is there are around 25 well fed |
| 00:06.30 | Caleb| | that useses the spells name Superfly_ |
| 00:06.35 | arkanes | Superfly_: are you trying to detect one of them, or any of them? |
| 00:06.41 | Caleb| | the first return value of GetSpellInfo is a localized spellName |
| 00:06.42 | Gnarfoz | seems like you still have to do if spellId = select(UnitAura(unitId,(GetSpellInfo(spellId))),11) then dostuff end :( |
| 00:06.58 | Caleb| | !api GetSpellInfo |
| 00:06.58 | lua_bot | GetSpellInfo: Returns information about a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellInfo) |
| 00:07.10 | Superfly_ | well bigbrother_ready seems to be broken, and just trying to fix it, the idea is check if the best food is on your char |
| 00:07.19 | Superfly_ | or you are slacking with some prewotlk food stuff |
| 00:07.29 | Gnarfoz | isn't that part of BigBrother itself, really? |
| 00:07.39 | Gnarfoz | I thought BB_ready was just a middleman to initiate the checks |
| 00:07.43 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: ^ |
| 00:08.05 | arkanes | You'll need to write a wrapper function |
| 00:08.47 | Superfly_ | Gnarfoz: it was |
| 00:09.04 | Superfly_ | bb doesnt support reporting expiring flasks |
| 00:09.37 | Gnarfoz | hm. I'd have thought adding that to BB and leaving BB_ready as a middleman would have been a more logical choice, but hey, I'm not doing the work, so whatever :> |
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| 00:10.53 | Superfly_ | im not familiar how this stuff works, i suppose you need to ask the developers or something, (it wasnt updated since 2009 tho) |
| 00:11.34 | Superfly_ | but yeah extending bb would be better, but im not the author :) |
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| 00:36.42 | Lysithea | anyone here know how much an honorable kill is worth? |
| 00:36.46 | Lysithea | at 80 100%-0 |
| 00:46.39 | Shefki | 62 |
| 00:46.58 | Shefki | I should say 61.something. |
| 00:47.02 | Shefki | I don't know the exact number. |
| 00:48.31 | Gnarfoz | 42, obviously |
| 00:49.26 | Shefki | The problem with figuring out the honorable kill -> honor conversion is it's a float and then they round it up. |
| 00:50.08 | wink | does it matter if you get the rounded version? |
| 00:50.24 | Shefki | Yes since some objectives grant more than 1 honorable kill worth of honor. |
| 00:50.29 | Shefki | And they round up after multipying. |
| 00:52.11 | Shadowed | the hell |
| 00:52.14 | Lysithea | thanks |
| 00:52.18 | Shadowed | What kind of extractor program do these people have |
| 00:52.51 | Shadowed | Someone has a ZIP extractor that's apparently converting \r\n into two line breaks |
| 00:53.32 | vhaarr | yeah I've seen that many times in the past |
| 00:53.41 | vhaarr | I think it's a specific zip library that does it |
| 00:54.04 | Shadowed | Been trying to figure out why random people have had issues with SUF, and that's it :| |
| 00:54.46 | wink | lol |
| 00:55.04 | vhaarr | I wonder if it's related to your locale settings |
| 00:55.12 | wink | that would be weird |
| 00:55.34 | Shadowed | vhaarr: What do you mean? |
| 00:55.36 | wink | shouldn't be too hard to get the people with the problem to tell OS version and unpacker? |
| 00:55.55 | Shadowed | It's due to the fact that SUF puts \n into some of the localization keys, wowace packager turns that into a linebreak, and the unzipper is then adding more linebreaks |
| 00:55.59 | Shadowed | easy to fix, but annoyign |
| 00:56.10 | Shadowed | s/annoyign/annoying/ |
| 00:57.15 | vhaarr | I remember a long time ago I was dealing with some Java-based unzipping, and it was doing something like this, and it turned out to be a java server setting where it automatically converted line breaks or something |
| 00:57.22 | vhaarr | or perhaps it was PHP, it's many years ago |
| 00:57.39 | Shadowed | Java used to have some weird issue with how it created ZIPs, but I think that was a while ago |
| 00:58.00 | vhaarr | this was at least 9-10 years ago |
| 00:58.00 | wink | don't touch my string :D |
| 00:58.12 | Shadowed | But whatever, switch to |n and it's all good |
| 01:03.51 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.2.5-10-g6d3b0fd / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 01:03.53 | Repo | 6d3b0fd: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/shadowed-unit-frames/mainline |
| 01:03.54 | Repo | 9c25b10: Switched to using |n instead of \n for localization line breaks, because somewhere an incompetent programmer can't handle line breaks in his zip program |
| 01:04.50 | Gnarfoz | did you... merge master with master there? |
| 01:04.52 | Gnarfoz | Oo |
| 01:05.08 | arkanes | Shadowed: you see my thing earlier? |
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| 01:05.46 | Shadowed | arkanes no |
| 01:06.13 | Gagorian | Anyone have 2p T10 moonkin? |
| 01:07.18 | arkanes | Shadowed: well you fixed it anyway |
| 01:09.29 | Shadowed | what did I fix |
| 01:10.15 | arkanes | it was showing a tanking ring instead of my DPS one |
| 01:10.19 | arkanes | right tooltip, though |
| 01:10.20 | Shadowed | oh |
| 01:10.21 | Shadowed | yea |
| 01:10.27 | Shadowed | The item data got corrupted somehow |
| 01:11.01 | arkanes | newlines, probably |
| 01:11.10 | Shadowed | probably, it is MySQL after all |
| 01:11.11 | arkanes | same problem everywhere >:( |
| 01:11.15 | arkanes | oh |
| 01:11.22 | arkanes | well, no, that was probably because its Tuesday |
| 01:11.30 | Shadowed | but it's SAturday |
| 01:11.36 | arkanes | exactly |
| 01:11.46 | Shadowed | Less drugs arkanes, less drugs |
| 01:13.41 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r149 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 01:13.42 | Repo | FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 01:13.44 | Repo | + Added: Buff Monitor functionality to check player buffs after a ready check is completed if you are the raid leader. |
| 01:13.45 | Repo | + Added: Buff Monitor support (checks) for suitable rogue poisons. (Rogue specific.) |
| 01:13.47 | Repo | + Added: New main menu convenience options: 'Quick Bidding' and 'Quick Raid Checks'. |
| 01:14.52 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.61-release * r150 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release. |
| 01:21.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:22.54 | Shefki | @describe wow/fu-bar_converge-fu |
| 01:22.56 | Repo | Shefki: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fu-bar_converge-fu/. FuBar_ConvergeFu. A FuBar plugin for Converge Guild Officers. |
| 01:23.54 | arkanes | !api UnitAura |
| 01:23.55 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
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| 02:01.38 | Repo | 10drainsouler: 03kunda 0430300-3 * r11 : Tagging as 30300-3 |
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| 02:39.22 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1340 / (7 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 02:39.24 | Repo | - Swiftmend is bugged: Improved Rejuvenation and Gift of Nature doesn't apparently apply any longer to the base healing portion of Rejuvenation Swiftmend |
| 02:39.25 | Repo | - Fixed Tree of Life Aura |
| 02:39.26 | Repo | - Added Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration |
| 02:39.27 | Repo | - Lifebloom pvp idol benefits from Tree of Life aura and Master Shapeshifter |
| 02:43.40 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_damagepercentmodifier/. Broker_DamagePercentModifier. Maat (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:45.05 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1341 Data (2 files in 1 directory): - Reverted Druid Starfall coefficients to 3.3.2 values |
| 02:46.01 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/little-black-book/. Little Black Book. Xocide (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 02:53.37 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.6-beta_2 * r1342 : Tagging as 1.7.6-beta_2 |
| 02:54.50 | Wobin | @describe little-black-book |
| 02:54.51 | Repo | Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/little-black-book/. Little Black Book. Your Little Black Book for WoW |
| 02:55.18 | Wobin | tautological nominative descriptor is descriptive |
| 02:55.37 | Wobin | wait wait |
| 02:55.45 | Wobin | Think of Black List as a little black book you put the names of people you dislike and don't want to socialize with. |
| 02:56.05 | Wobin | Does this person understand what a "Little Black Book" -is-? |
| 02:56.21 | Wobin | Either that, or they're -really- into angrysex |
| 02:57.35 | Gagorian | Pfft, why are premade chars limited to 4 copies >:C |
| 02:57.59 | Gagorian | How the hell are you supposed to test all classes if you only can copy 4! |
| 03:00.27 | DWSR | Is it possible to list one addon in another addon's in .pkgmeta and then have it packaged on the top-level of the resulting package? |
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| 03:03.43 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: it should simply be called "blacklist", AND it should probably be moved to curseforge just because of the stupid name ;P |
| 03:06.06 | quiescens | because its clearly the only project that has a vaguely confusing name |
| 03:06.14 | koaschten_ | uuh you cant do /script LeavePaty() anymore? |
| 03:06.25 | koaschten_ | instantly goes duuuh and adds a "r" |
| 03:06.30 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:06.35 | quiescens | i wasn't going to say it |
| 03:06.53 | DWSR | Paty, sounds like somone with a hideous accent. (i.e. Southern US). |
| 03:06.59 | DWSR | You wanna leave that Paaty? |
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| 03:23.42 | Shadowed | vhaarr: http://wuu.vagabonds.info/menu.php that's what causes it |
| 03:24.21 | Shadowed | Who does WUU, need to figure out who to hate |
| 03:24.21 | Gnarfoz | !api leaveparty |
| 03:24.25 | lua_bot | LeaveParty: Exits the current party or raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/LeaveParty) |
| 03:25.29 | Superfly_ | like wow ui updater? |
| 03:26.59 | Superfly_ | ah i see you linked it before |
| 03:27.06 | Superfly_ | is it more someone else has a huge lag on freenode? |
| 03:27.14 | Superfly_ | is it me* or |
| 03:27.37 | DWSR | you |
| 03:28.31 | DWSR | [22:27:46] CTCP PING reply from Superfly_ [~Superfly@89-vh-2-shost.hostoffice.hu]: 1 sec 61 msec |
| 03:28.31 | DWSR | [22:28:02] CTCP PING reply from Sh<gnip>adowed [~outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net]: 0 sec 775 msec |
| 03:28.36 | DWSR | Just you |
| 03:29.09 | Superfly_ | nice, 1sec sounds cool, but about 1 min ago i had 12-13sec |
| 03:29.20 | DWSR | where's .hu? |
| 03:29.27 | Superfly_ | hungary |
| 03:29.32 | DWSR | ah |
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| 03:33.35 | Superfly_ | anyway, good morning/night |
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| 03:39.57 | cvan | are the curse remote servers down? I can't get on the website or check for updates... |
| 03:45.14 | Repo | 10debuff-alarm: 03starlon * r71 / (7 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 03:45.16 | Repo | DebuffAlarm: |
| 03:45.17 | Repo | - Update to Ace3. |
| 03:45.19 | Repo | - Use Blizzard's addon dialog instead of Fubar for config. Command line editing is still available. |
| 03:45.20 | Repo | - Update externals. |
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| 04:43.40 | pompy | wth is causing this http://pastebin.com/iDhT43ex |
| 04:44.27 | Trela | An add on trying to access party or raid related API while not in a party or raid. |
| 04:45.13 | pompy | Trela: i am in a party |
| 04:48.02 | DWSR | pompy: Cross-server party? |
| 04:48.42 | DWSR | also, might be a syntax issue and the author meaning to pass it as a UnitID, but instead passing it as a literal name? |
| 04:51.52 | pompy | DWSR: nope, normal party on my server |
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| 06:03.46 | orionshock | question: SecureCmdOptionParse("[pet:voidwalker]") is that going to translate to other locales properly or am i going to have to translate it by hand? |
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| 06:11.55 | Repo | 2872cc0: remove some debug |
| 06:11.56 | Repo | e835d04: minor updates |
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| 06:19.18 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 04v0.3-beta * e3760be /: [new tag] Tag v.3-beta, add rogue, mage, lock buttons |
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| 06:32.20 | tiik | I'm sure this has been asked a couple hundred times, but what's going on with the website? ;/ I can't download anything.. Managed to find a 3.0v of Curse Client elsewhere on the web but it can't update or download any addons.. |
| 06:33.55 | tiik | It's working for people in some places of the globe - it seems like a DNS issue somewhere with static.curse.com - I can see the browser making requests to static.curse.com and it's timing out there |
| 06:34.23 | Wobin | not working for me |
| 06:37.35 | tiik | For someone it IS working for, can you ping static.curse.com and tell me the IP? I can manually override the (incorrect) IP ;/ |
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| 06:40.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2873 Datamine.lua: |
| 06:40.17 | Repo | In addon:TooltipScanRecipe(): Renamed "spell_info" to "recipe" and added quality level checking. |
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| 07:25.36 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2874 Datamine.lua: |
| 07:25.38 | Repo | have it print out the name of the recipe when it says there's a quality discrepancy. |
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| 08:27.10 | quiescens | hmm |
| 08:36.06 | quiescens | website seems |
| 08:36.07 | quiescens | iffy |
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| 09:18.30 | neon_ | Is there an Altoholic dev (or someone who knows the code) around? Having some problems with freezelags (0.5 - 5 sec depending on in what situation, solo/raid/wintergrasp) after dropping combat or accepting ressurections |
| 09:19.15 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options * r331 / (32 files in 7 directories): Merge to r385 |
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| 09:45.40 | asmodai | yawns |
| 09:50.07 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 3.0.2-2-gf3ede34 modules/Player.lua: [+1 commit] Properly disable the targetname option again. |
| 09:50.44 | asmodai | Next96: busy bee |
| 09:50.52 | asmodai | grrrr |
| 09:50.54 | asmodai | nevcairiel: busy bee |
| 09:51.16 | asmodai | neon_: Not sure the altoholic dev visits here. |
| 09:51.47 | nevcairiel | just fixing a ticket |
| 09:53.07 | neon_ | I already made up my mind about spending some time on writing my own addon to replace the (very few) parts of Altoholic that I use :) |
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| 09:54.38 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:54.48 | neon_ | Just started using it as a way to keep track of VoA10+25 lockout/honor/arena points/daily BG q done/daily hc done/number of emblems per char, don't really use any of the other functionality so |
| 09:56.09 | neon_ | Did an icc10+icc25 run with CPU profiling enabled(6+ hours of raiding total) a few days ago just to get a feel for performance hogs, what I saw both suprised and scared me. :P |
| 09:57.11 | neon_ | Gave me that last push I needed to finally sit down and finish my own cooldown count (omnicc), deathlog (acheron) and altoholic alternatives |
| 09:59.09 | nevcairiel | eh, the cpu profiling in wow is not as useful as one might think |
| 09:59.22 | neon_ | I know it has problems with shared libs and stuff |
| 09:59.31 | neon_ | But it still gives you a rough idea |
| 09:59.39 | neon_ | Check this out for example: http://download.local.se/pic/profiling_after6hraid.jpg |
| 09:59.48 | nevcairiel | run something in an onupdate and you'll get pretty high numbers, no matter if it really has an impact on your game |
| 10:01.23 | nevcairiel | something like OmniCC for example that has to constantly update the time numbers on spells will always show up pretty high, and you can only marginally reduce that |
| 10:01.55 | neon_ | Running wow in Linux (via wine), and got pretty good performance when solo and in 5mans (80+ fps), 50+ in 10mans, but goes down to <15 in 25man raids |
| 10:02.46 | nevcairiel | sticking to my omnicc example .. it doesnt matter how big a group is, it always shows your cooldowns ;) |
| 10:02.55 | nevcairiel | acheron is pretty much a performance hog, though |
| 10:02.56 | neon_ | My own cooldown count addon (slimmed down on features obviously) uses an order of magnitude less CPU than omnicc tho |
| 10:03.22 | orionshock | neon_, altoholic while it has good intentions is a monolithic addon that should be killed with fire |
| 10:04.06 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options * r332 Options/GridIndicators.lua: Missed the nooptions function. |
| 10:04.07 | orionshock | like all monolithic addons that try to do everything in one, in the end it's bloated or buggy, ugly or simply will break after a patch |
| 10:04.56 | orionshock | nevcairiel, interested in expanding the flight module? i think i have an adaptation that would work nicely.. tho i could have written a complete hack of an addition :) |
| 10:06.46 | neon_ | nevcairiel, I don't update(or even create) any timers that aren't above a certain iconsize, and I don't create any "shower" frames at all, I just let the underlying Cooldown-frame control that |
| 10:06.57 | neon_ | Seems to be working pretty well. |
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| 10:07.38 | nevcairiel | i don't even have cooldown models on my UF, so only my actionbars get timers anyway |
| 10:08.40 | neon_ | I put in some debug code in omnicc, and it seems like it actually keeps timers going for completely hidden frames aswell, stuff like VehicleMainMenuButton1 and whatnot |
| 10:09.08 | asmodai | It's not bad that all your colleagues and so are being sick with stomach flu, flu or common cold, but now I get to use my immune system to beat it off. Jesus, feel like a 10-ton truck hit me. >_< |
| 10:09.30 | neon_ | Since it creates its own "shower" frames with hooks into the onshow/hide, it can keep running its OnUpdate code for a while even after the Cooldown-frame has been hidden |
| 10:09.49 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options 04v1 * r333 : Tagging as v1 |
| 10:10.11 | asmodai | orionshock: Actually, altoholic was pretty stable during patches/updates. |
| 10:10.23 | nevcairiel | neon_: its there so you can hide the cooldown model and still have numbers |
| 10:10.33 | neon_ | ye I know |
| 10:11.04 | neon_ | I don't need that functionality tho, I just let the original cooldown spiral be |
| 10:11.13 | nevcairiel | anyway, omnicc is not affected by raid size, so its most likely not an addon causing any raid performance problems |
| 10:12.21 | neon_ | Nono, I just got low FPS in raids in general. The bottleneck is my CPU |
| 10:12.49 | yoshimo | my favourite fps breakdown is wg when everyone joins the raid within 1second |
| 10:13.02 | neon_ | While in windows on a decent computer you might get 100 fps with no addons in raids, and say 80fps with a shitload of addons, this difference doesn't matter at all obviously |
| 10:13.06 | Wobin | first room in gundrak =P |
| 10:13.24 | nevcairiel | i have a decent computer and some areas in raids still make my fps crawl |
| 10:13.35 | neon_ | But when I get 25-30 fps with no addons in linux with wine, and 15 with many addons, any performance tweak you can make to gain a few fps makes a noticable difference |
| 10:13.35 | nevcairiel | especially with a wide-angel view of outside area |
| 10:14.10 | nevcairiel | i can't just fly across icecrown and keep the fps, something in the engine is eating fps there |
| 10:14.29 | Wobin | The Lich King |
| 10:14.31 | Wobin | Duh =P |
| 10:15.04 | neon_ | (This is on a core2duo E6600 OC'd to 3ghz, ssd hd, nvidia 9800GTX system) |
| 10:16.21 | neon_ | I don't mind too much tho, I get 120+ fps in arenas, that's all that really matters ;) |
| 10:17.23 | nevcairiel | I'm on a i7 and a GTX 260, and i can't keep constant 60 fps (vsync) when flying across zones |
| 10:17.29 | nevcairiel | something is terribly wrong in the engine |
| 10:17.43 | neon_ | Oh that's strange |
| 10:19.48 | asmodai | nevcairiel: L} |
| 10:19.51 | asmodai | errr :| |
| 10:21.26 | neon_ | asmodai, I recognize your name from somewhere.. |
| 10:21.39 | asmodai | Oh noes. |
| 10:21.39 | neon_ | Don't you hang in #lighttpd? |
| 10:21.45 | asmodai | Used to from time to time. |
| 10:22.05 | asmodai | But mostly when I had found a bug or similar. |
| 10:22.11 | neon_ | Aha :) |
| 10:22.32 | neon_ | And #openbsd |
| 10:22.33 | neon_ | :) |
| 10:22.36 | asmodai | Nope, FreeBSD |
| 10:22.48 | asmodai | But on Undernet. |
| 10:22.53 | neon_ | Oh, well, I've seen you in #openbsd :P |
| 10:22.59 | asmodai | Since I've been there for more than 12 years. |
| 10:23.05 | asmodai | Oh, can be. But rarely. |
| 10:23.30 | asmodai | Since I've been a FreeBSD and DragonFly BSD committer, so would've been to keep up to date with some folks. |
| 10:23.37 | neon_ | I used to hang there aswell, a long long time ago |
| 10:23.56 | neon_ | Nowadays I'm just in #freebsd.se, #openbsd and #linux.se |
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| 10:25.09 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 * r386 / (13 files in 3 directories): |
| 10:25.32 | asmodai | neon_: heh, yeah, a long long time ago |
| 10:25.36 | Repo | Merge of the options branch into trunk. This allows grid2 to make better use of the blizzard options panel. See Ticket 59. |
| 10:26.48 | neon_ | Must've been more than 4 years ago I last visited, that's how far back I've got irclogs from, and I can't find any entries of #freebsd in there. :) |
| 10:27.05 | asmodai | Hah, cool, bird protection in NL set up a bunch of webcams for various birds in NL: http://www.beleefdelente.nl/ |
| 10:27.29 | asmodai | neon_: Heh, well, Undernet, not Freenode. Been an op in that channel for more than 12 years now. |
| 10:28.08 | neon_ | Hrm, I don't even remember on what network I was on, freenode or efnet |
| 10:28.24 | asmodai | I was on EFNet for a while too, but left in the end. |
| 10:28.44 | neon_ | It's my "main" network |
| 10:29.01 | neon_ | efnet, that is. |
| 10:32.42 | asmodai | That would explain why you don't see me there anymoer. |
| 10:32.49 | asmodai | Last time was more than 5-7 years ago. |
| 10:34.07 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.3-beta-3-g18f0ff1 paladin.lua: [+1 commit] add Sacred Shield and Beacon of Light -- reformat pally module to use more GSI and less hardcoded localizations. If this looks weird in other locales then we'll need an adjustment |
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| 10:42.13 | nevcairiel | asmodai: fun fact, the performance issues when hovering over a zone are not present when using opengl rendering |
| 10:42.19 | nevcairiel | but i can't stand the lack of hardware cursor =( |
| 10:42.34 | asmodai | eh |
| 10:42.53 | asmodai | So it might be some DX ineficiency or their engine does somethign weird |
| 10:43.42 | orionshock | nevcairiel, what's the difference with a hardware cursor ? |
| 10:43.49 | nevcairiel | try it |
| 10:43.51 | nevcairiel | you'll notice |
| 10:44.03 | orionshock | can't i run openGL on linux :) |
| 10:44.24 | Bruners | low fps and your mouse goes slow |
| 10:44.30 | nevcairiel | don't you notice that the cursor feels "slow" sometiems? |
| 10:44.34 | Bruners | with hardware cursor the mouse will be smooth all the time |
| 10:45.04 | orionshock | hehe, i've got high fps all the time so... don't really notice it |
| 10:45.05 | neon_ | There's workarounds for that via wine patches though |
| 10:45.33 | neon_ | To add hardware support to opengl |
| 10:45.41 | nevcairiel | too bad i don't play on wine =) |
| 10:45.46 | neon_ | Or well, not true support, but emulation :) |
| 10:46.09 | neon_ | Was mainly speaking to orionshock :) |
| 10:46.12 | orionshock | meh @ wine.. i use crossover myself (yes a port of wine but quite different) :P |
| 10:46.39 | vhaarr | different how? |
| 10:46.46 | Bruners | isn't it exactly the same just with an interface for the apps you have installed? |
| 10:46.47 | vhaarr | I've always used wine, always worked for me |
| 10:47.12 | Bruners | and maby some configurations for specific apps |
| 10:47.23 | neon_ | Maby he means Cedega |
| 10:47.40 | Bruners | i think he means crossover |
| 10:47.53 | orionshock | wine has a terrible default setup, and the sound is bugie for me sometimes. Crossover-Games is specifically coded / designed for games and has optimized default settings for games |
| 10:48.03 | vhaarr | right, you are lazy then |
| 10:48.06 | vhaarr | wine is fine |
| 10:48.37 | neon_ | But crossover doesn't have anything to do with wine patches? :P |
| 10:49.08 | Bruners | since crossover is built upon wine i would say it has something to do with it |
| 10:49.33 | orionshock | i ran wine for ~4yrs playing wow.. it works sure, but often had strange problems and sound never worked really. With crossover-games it's been a near flawless experience. |
| 10:49.46 | neon_ | I mean, wine patches should apply just fine to crossover? Isn't crossover basically just "settings tweaks" to hardcoded wine settings? |
| 10:49.58 | vhaarr | I don't think it is, neon_ |
| 10:50.13 | vhaarr | the crossover developers work on their codebase and push changes upstream to wine as they see fit |
| 10:50.21 | nevcairiel | i believe they forked it off quite a while ago |
| 10:50.24 | vhaarr | and many of the DirectX developers on wine are paid by crossover |
| 10:50.25 | nevcairiel | might apply, or might now |
| 10:50.39 | vhaarr | it doesn't apply I think, that was a different project you are thinking of |
| 10:50.56 | neon_ | Oh, yeah as you can see I'm not really up to speed on crossover :) |
| 10:51.04 | neon_ | My bad ;) |
| 10:51.07 | nevcairiel | isnt it still initially based on wine? |
| 10:51.14 | Bruners | says so on their page |
| 10:51.18 | vhaarr | it's 100% based on wine and they rebase on every release |
| 10:51.25 | neon_ | I always thought of crossover more like winetweaks |
| 10:51.27 | nevcairiel | so it could still apply |
| 10:51.34 | nevcairiel | depending on how big their changes in those sections are |
| 10:51.41 | Bruners | "CrossOver Games is built on the latest versions of Wine, based on contributions from both CodeWeavers and the open-source Wine " |
| 10:51.44 | vhaarr | they push changes upstream quite often |
| 10:52.00 | nevcairiel | anyway, i want hardware cursor now! |
| 10:52.12 | vhaarr | install linux, patch wine and you're good to go |
| 10:52.21 | nevcairiel | cant watch my blurays on linux :( |
| 10:52.34 | vhaarr | who has blurays anyway |
| 10:52.41 | nevcairiel | me, obviously |
| 10:52.59 | vhaarr | I was sure gstreamer had bluray support |
| 10:53.00 | nevcairiel | i need to build me a HTPC so i can switch to linux completly again |
| 10:53.19 | vhaarr | or was it ffmpeg |
| 10:53.23 | nevcairiel | you can watch the bluray files with mplayer just fine |
| 10:53.24 | nevcairiel | however |
| 10:53.28 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:53.30 | nevcairiel | there is no realtime decoder for linux |
| 10:53.42 | neon_ | Haha, just checked the crossover site, they list this as a "pro" in their feature comparison with wine |
| 10:53.44 | nevcairiel | so you have to completly decode the 40gb onto your hdd first |
| 10:54.03 | neon_ | Price Wine: $0, and a lot of your time - Crossover: $39.95 - $69.95 |
| 10:54.13 | vhaarr | I think there is now |
| 10:54.51 | vhaarr | http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1327197 |
| 10:55.05 | nevcairiel | i switched wow to windowed mode, and it seems less sluggish then in fullscreen |
| 10:55.57 | nevcairiel | its just a tad bit annoying having the 3d screen shine through my taskbar :P |
| 10:56.00 | orionshock | neon_, think of the 40$ as a donation to a good cause, the death of MS :) |
| 10:56.42 | Bruners | orionshock: good thinking |
| 10:56.53 | orionshock | that and it's a yearly subscription |
| 10:57.04 | Bruners | orionshock: the donation bit at least |
| 10:57.17 | Bruners | MS still does a lot of good in this world |
| 10:57.22 | neon_ | I'd rather donate that to the opensource wine project instead of a company who takes a share of the cut before letting some of the money trickle back to the wine devs :P |
| 10:57.37 | Pucmel | consoles ... |
| 10:57.45 | Bruners | are for |
| 10:58.09 | orionshock | neon_, they don't make a whole lot if u think about it |
| 10:59.21 | Arrowmaster | neon_: codeweavers pretty much manages wine now, its all hosted by codeweavers and the lead developers work for codeweavers |
| 10:59.37 | neon_ | I don't get why I should pay $40 for something that lists 2 changes compared to the wine to the only game I play |
| 10:59.41 | neon_ | Add a dependency for World of Warcraft now required after the 3.3 patch |
| 10:59.41 | nevcairiel | I'm still somewhat confused that i'm on my vsync cap with opengl now, while dx manages to bring me down to ~30 .. wtf is wrong with WoWs DX engine |
| 11:00.07 | neon_ | Fix a problem with directory permissions in World of Warcraft in Ubuntu 9.10 |
| 11:00.37 | vhaarr | that last one is fixed in wine as well |
| 11:00.42 | neon_ | Those 2 "problems" I sorted out in 30 seconds with wine |
| 11:01.34 | Pucmel | hmmm werent there some bans flying around for using wow under wine some time ago ? |
| 11:01.34 | Arrowmaster | blizzard is the one that should have fixed that one |
| 11:01.34 | nevcairiel | the dependency you just have to install manually with wine, who cares |
| 11:01.34 | Arrowmaster | Pucmel: it was for using cedega and it was a long time ago but it was sorted out |
| 11:01.37 | Pucmel | yeye i know ... some time ago :) |
| 11:01.40 | neon_ | If the new dep they're talking about is the "Microsoft.VC80.CRT.manifest" update |
| 11:01.45 | Pucmel | but it can happen again i guess 0.o |
| 11:01.47 | Bruners | how about just playing native linux games instead of having the trouble with wine |
| 11:02.00 | nevcairiel | but we cant play WoW then! |
| 11:02.09 | Pucmel | virtualbox+directx support |
| 11:02.12 | Pucmel | here you go :) |
| 11:02.22 | Arrowmaster | the manifest thing is also a blizzard problem |
| 11:02.36 | Bruners | get everyone playing with wine to stop untill they make a native client |
| 11:02.40 | Arrowmaster | Pucmel: you do know that virtualbox's directx stuff IS wine |
| 11:03.24 | nevcairiel | Bruners: they actually had a client in development, but they stopped it, doubt they'll pick it up again |
| 11:03.26 | Pucmel | yes, but the point is .. its in windows sandbox |
| 11:03.27 | neon_ | It's really about time for blizz to add native support for wow in linux |
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| 11:04.30 | Bruners | nevcairiel: well it works well with wine |
| 11:04.33 | neon_ | Instead of having their development team working on useless stuff like, oh say the in-game voice chat, they could easily sort out a linux client, as they did for mac. |
| 11:04.35 | orionshock | not going to happen, best you'll get is them compromising with methods and wine |
| 11:05.13 | Arrowmaster | sometimes i wonder how hard it would be to make something like wine but to run osx apps on linux |
| 11:05.24 | Bruners | neon_: just because you don't use the in-game voice chat doesn't render it useless |
| 11:05.42 | Arrowmaster | guessing very hard due to all the changes apple has made to stuff |
| 11:05.44 | Bruners | nobody wants to run osx apps so no point |
| 11:05.46 | Bruners | :P |
| 11:05.54 | neon_ | Yes I know, I just used it as an example for a feature that took a lot of work, but that a very VERY small portion of the userbase actually uses |
| 11:05.57 | neon_ | Like, Linux |
| 11:06.01 | Arrowmaster | wants to run textmate =( |
| 11:06.27 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: but you're on windows? |
| 11:06.49 | Arrowmaster | neon_: you do know that because blizzard added in-game voice chat a very very long standing bug in wine was discovered and fixed right? |
| 11:06.53 | Arrowmaster | asmodai: no im not |
| 11:06.56 | asmodai | oh |
| 11:07.09 | asmodai | Otherwise I'd say: http://www.sublimetext.com/ |
| 11:07.16 | neon_ | Arrowmaster, Haven't heard about it, no |
| 11:07.43 | neon_ | I'd rather let wine still have that bug if it means I could get a native wow client tho ;) |
| 11:07.47 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: it wouldnt be much harder then wine, but there is no real big point, as there rarely are apps that are exclusive to mac |
| 11:09.47 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r119 Revelation.lua: Added the ability to disenchant items from the menu. |
| 11:09.49 | Repo | Enchanting and Runeforging no longer require a second click on the item. |
| 11:09.50 | Repo | Minor code cleanup, and renamed some functions/variables. |
| 11:10.04 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.50 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.4.0 * r120 : Tagging as 3.3.2-1.4.0 |
| 11:11.34 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rezzmon/. RezzMon. Finghin (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 11:11.41 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/totemradius/. TotemRadius. Cyprias (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 11:23.02 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.3-beta-5-gc39c5e9 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 11:23.04 | Repo | c39c5e9: chnage to using GSI instead of hardcoded localizations |
| 11:23.05 | Repo | 94c8f65: add methods to save frame width and scale |
| 11:42.38 | yoshimo | AddOn Ace3 attempted to call a protected function (VoiceChatTalkers:Hide()) during combat lockdown. thats the unused inbuilt voiceserver isnt it? |
| 11:43.35 | nevcairiel | i've been getting that too |
| 11:43.39 | nevcairiel | some addon must be tainting |
| 11:44.42 | nevcairiel | Execution tainted by oRA3 while reading oRA3FrameTab5 - Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:19 PanelTemplates_UpdateTabs() |
| 11:44.45 | nevcairiel | i knew it was oRA3 |
| 11:44.54 | nevcairiel | [Ammo], vhaarr ^ |
| 11:46.25 | nevcairiel | http://paste.wowace.com/1766/ |
| 11:47.06 | yoshimo | something is tainting the questblobs on the worldmap as well, no idea why |
| 11:47.35 | nevcairiel | the quest stuff taints fast |
| 11:48.15 | Repo | 10old-instance-finder: 03DrKazza * r10 / (34 files in 13 directories): Version for Debugging |
| 11:49.17 | yoshimo | it does but why? those small polygons showing me where the quest is cant be that dangerous , can they? |
| 11:49.37 | nevcairiel | dunno, ask blizz why they made them secure |
| 11:50.07 | asmodai | yoshimo: They can attack you |
| 11:52.29 | Fisker | don't troll me yoshimo |
| 11:52.35 | Fisker | @prject revelation |
| 11:52.37 | Fisker | damnit |
| 11:52.40 | Fisker | @project revelation |
| 11:52.41 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 40 minutes ago. Tickets: 2/10 |
| 11:53.26 | Fisker | that's nice Torhal |
| 11:53.44 | Fisker | how can that addon have existed for 1½ years? |
| 11:53.58 | sb|work | @project blessed |
| 11:53.59 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 54 days ago |
| 11:54.02 | sb|work | 54.... :o |
| 11:54.14 | Fisker | :o |
| 11:54.17 | Antiarc | I'm busy with real work :( |
| 11:54.20 | Antiarc | Overly busy. |
| 11:54.21 | Fisker | he accept patches! |
| 11:54.35 | Fisker | puts $5 on Antiarc's paypal |
| 11:54.36 | Antiarc | 100+ hours-a-week-busy |
| 11:54.40 | Fisker | this is your real work now |
| 11:57.48 | Torhal | Fisker: It can because that's when I made it. |
| 11:57.50 | Torhal | :D |
| 11:59.55 | asmodai | Antiarc: Mind your health though. |
| 12:00.12 | Antiarc | asmodai: Yeah. I paid for it this week. Was sick for ~3 days. Didn't get anything done. |
| 12:00.27 | quiescens | so now you have to work more |
| 12:00.38 | quiescens | to catch up |
| 12:00.46 | quiescens | and then get sick so you're even more behind |
| 12:00.52 | Antiarc | I've been playing catch-up for 3 years now :P |
| 12:00.58 | Antiarc | It's working okay for me. |
| 12:01.03 | Antiarc | My work is energizing, for the most part. |
| 12:01.06 | quiescens | ad infinitum |
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| 12:01.14 | quiescens | its a downward spiral |
| 12:03.58 | Antiarc | I tend to sprint for a while, then rest for a week or two to recharge. |
| 12:04.06 | Antiarc | And I keep several projects on my plate to keep me sharp |
| 12:04.12 | Antiarc | I'll cycle around to Blessed eventually |
| 12:04.23 | Antiarc | The biggest part of it is that I'm not playing WoW much at all lately |
| 12:04.30 | Antiarc | I log in for raids, then log out and go back to work. |
| 12:04.50 | nevcairiel | you should stop raiding ,gives you alot of freetime |
| 12:05.01 | Antiarc | I probably should, heh |
| 12:05.06 | Antiarc | It's a good mental release, though |
| 12:05.06 | quiescens | yeah |
| 12:05.09 | quiescens | who raids these days |
| 12:05.12 | Antiarc | Forces me to turn off my brain for a few hours a week. |
| 12:07.00 | Fisker | so Antiarc you're saying you had 3 days to work on blessed, but didn't?! |
| 12:07.00 | Fisker | :D |
| 12:07.19 | Antiarc | I had 3 days where I couldn't stand to sit in front of a computer due to sinus pressure |
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| 13:08.17 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.37 * r95 : Tagging as 2.37 |
| 13:10.36 | Torhal | @project castbars |
| 13:10.38 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/castbars/. Castbars. Game: WoW. xbeeps (Manager/Author). Updated: 40 hours ago. Tickets: 5/48 |
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| 14:07.07 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r121 Revelation.lua: Added support for Prospecting. |
| 14:07.09 | Repo | Fixed Disenchanting to no longer be English-only. |
| 14:07.10 | Repo | Added comments to non-disenchantable list. Methinks there should be more entries. |
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| 14:23.56 | quiescens | yay, people starting to design attacks around people that have authenticators |
| 14:24.08 | ckknight | quiescens: oh? |
| 14:25.54 | quiescens | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12730404058&sid=1&pageNo=1#15 |
| 14:27.25 | quiescens | i would think you could get quite a few minutes free after a successful attack of that sort, take the code they enter and use it to log in, make their game do a generic sort of "login is taking ages and/or disconnecting as usual" thing etc |
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| 14:31.00 | Torhal | Erk. I was going to make my level 1 bank toon a Scribe so I could add/test support in Revelation. Alas, must be level 5. I suppose I could drycode and hope for the best. |
| 14:31.36 | Torhal | Support for Milling, that is. |
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| 14:37.02 | Fisker | you could ask me to help you |
| 14:40.02 | harl | what's happening to curse? |
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| 14:42.16 | Fisker | DO YOU HEAR ME TORHAL |
| 14:42.21 | Fisker | OR DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF? |
| 14:42.46 | SunTsu | Fisker: maybe you should _talk_ in the first place |
| 14:42.56 | Fisker | NO SunTsu |
| 14:43.15 | Torhal | Fisker: What locale do you play in? |
| 14:45.02 | quiescens | run torhal, run! |
| 14:45.02 | SunTsu | Fisker: yeah, it happened, we finally agree on that you shouldn't talk :> |
| 14:45.43 | wink | how can esES be fully translated and esMX 0% - is is that different? :P |
| 14:46.07 | asmodai | wink: Yes. |
| 14:46.16 | wink | that's interesting |
| 14:46.18 | nevcairiel | I don't think its that different |
| 14:46.21 | asmodai | In general Mexicans can read Spanish Spanish, but there's definitely differences. |
| 14:46.29 | asmodai | nevcairiel: There are definitely changes in idiom. |
| 14:46.31 | nevcairiel | not in game, anyway |
| 14:46.44 | asmodai | Same with Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. |
| 14:46.52 | wink | well, we have some Argentinian people and they can talk to Germans speaking Spanish very well |
| 14:46.57 | asmodai | But it is a safe bet to copy es_ES to es_MX for any kick start of translation. |
| 14:47.09 | wink | asmodai: that's what I meant :P |
| 14:47.09 | SunTsu | wink: it is different, yeah, and the translator probably didn't put esES sentences into esMX where it applies |
| 14:47.26 | nevcairiel | if you're talking about the locale thing on wowace, it never does automagic translation copies |
| 14:47.32 | nevcairiel | and the mexicans are lazy bastards |
| 14:47.39 | wink | "that different" is what I meant with "wtf, no comprende" |
| 14:47.45 | wink | nevcairiel: WHERE'S MY enGB? |
| 14:47.49 | wink | I only see enUS |
| 14:47.50 | wink | !!111 |
| 14:47.51 | nevcairiel | its identical to enUS |
| 14:47.56 | wink | lies :) |
| 14:48.02 | wink | Armour! |
| 14:48.07 | nevcairiel | go to stormwind harbor and try to find th u! |
| 14:48.15 | Torhal | Fisker: Owell. Going to bed now. |
| 14:48.23 | wink | as someone said.. "eu.wowarmory.com should just be wowarmoury.com" |
| 14:48.29 | asmodai | quiescens: That OP in the thread you posted is quite a smart technical cookie. |
| 14:48.34 | Wobin | agrees with wink |
| 14:48.42 | asmodai | quiescens: Much better than the so-called experts that tend to post. |
| 14:48.44 | nevcairiel | the aussies use u's too? |
| 14:48.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: They're descended from en_UK :) |
| 14:48.57 | wink | I was only writing British English.. until I discovered the internet |
| 14:49.00 | asmodai | or en_GB |
| 14:49.09 | nevcairiel | asmodai: so are the americans, at some point |
| 14:49.13 | Wobin | nevcairiel, as it should be! |
| 14:49.18 | asmodai | nevcairiel: But they're the corrupted cousin. |
| 14:49.26 | asmodai | Black sheep and all that. |
| 14:49.27 | Wobin | Americans don't speak english |
| 14:49.31 | Wobin | they speak American |
| 14:49.35 | quiescens | everyone thinks they're an expert |
| 14:49.42 | wink | Australians don't speak English either |
| 14:49.45 | quiescens | the ones that actually are never say they are |
| 14:49.50 | asmodai | Oztraljah! |
| 14:49.54 | nevcairiel | maybe thats why girls speaking both british english or australian seem kinda hot |
| 14:50.07 | nevcairiel | they are related! |
| 14:50.20 | wink | as if you cared if they spoke.. at all |
| 14:50.47 | CrazyBenny | some of them are better when not speaking ;) |
| 14:50.53 | Wobin | for some reason, the american guildmates of a friend of mine thought she was asian |
| 14:51.00 | Wobin | (from listening over Vent) |
| 14:51.04 | wink | that's the only reason I love to listen to Lily Allen songs, it's just the pronunciation |
| 14:51.06 | asmodai | nevcairiel: And the UK girls have the biggest cup size in Europe too! |
| 14:51.10 | Wobin | aside from the fact she's blonde and blue eyed =P |
| 14:51.12 | asmodai | And then the Danes and Dutch IIRC |
| 14:51.15 | wink | I hate the music and the texts, but the dialect is awesome |
| 14:51.33 | nevcairiel | I should move to the UK :P |
| 14:51.51 | wink | interesting statistics. asmodai |
| 14:51.55 | wink | got any source? :) |
| 14:52.02 | wink | textual... ofc |
| 14:52.06 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 14:52.19 | wink | doesn't want to be spammed with boob pics now |
| 14:52.23 | nevcairiel | i'll take visual comparisons for statistics too |
| 14:52.40 | asmodai | wink: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1755538/posts |
| 14:52.48 | Stanzilla | wink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Price ? :p |
| 14:53.02 | wink | rofl |
| 14:53.15 | Wobin | wink, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZjcfZ2pWtM |
| 14:53.23 | wink | Stanzilla: if you take her as an example, you could make a graph of GDP -> breast size |
| 14:53.39 | asmodai | wink: rofl |
| 14:53.45 | Wobin | Stanzilla, as long as you don't list any A-cup for Australia |
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| 14:54.04 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 14:54.08 | wink | http://www.extremefunnyhumor.com/pics/wish%20these%20were%20brains.jpg |
| 14:54.14 | wink | the hat says "australian" to me |
| 14:54.32 | Wobin | wink, not especially |
| 14:54.46 | nevcairiel | could be a hot area in the US |
| 14:54.48 | wink | I'm prejudices :P |
| 14:54.53 | wink | s/es/ed/ |
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| 14:55.20 | wink | asmodai: still not sure if that is a credible source |
| 14:55.29 | Wobin | you could probably track it down from here http://www.tineye.com/search/3278b6f5cb853da3cf6529fd73afd43bcb0c35ad |
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| 14:56.47 | wink | http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/local_news/dutch-womens-breasts-getting-bigger-35043_32359.html sounds better |
| 14:56.59 | wink | ANP - ANP ist eine Abkürzung für: Algemeen Nederlands Persbureau |
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| 14:57.07 | wink | oops |
| 14:57.13 | wink | damn google |
| 14:57.17 | nevcairiel | thats the same text |
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| 14:58.44 | wink | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKWdSCt4jGE |
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| 15:00.10 | vhallac | Hello. Does anyone know anything about Curse Client 4 blowing up addons.txt? |
| 15:01.04 | vhallac | There is a ticket for it that say "restart, and it will be fixed". Needless to say, it didn't work. :) |
| 15:01.58 | vhallac | It seems to happen when I uninstall an addon. |
| 15:03.02 | yoshimo | wink , i dont think that size should matter that much ;) |
| 15:03.40 | Wobin | That's what -he- said |
| 15:04.16 | harl | i actually can't use the curse client for anything right now. |
| 15:04.22 | harl | wonders how anyone else could |
| 15:04.39 | wink | a guildy also told me he had problems yesterday |
| 15:04.48 | wink | that it somehow threw errors all the time |
| 15:04.56 | wink | but worked for 2 others when we tried |
| 15:05.22 | wink | nevcairiel: same text, but the source of the first text, and with another source |
| 15:06.16 | vhallac | Hm. I can install and uninstall things. I haven't done anything special with it. |
| 15:06.31 | vhallac | The addons.txt disappear when I tell it to blow away saved data of an addon. |
| 15:06.39 | yoshimo | i have updated all my addons earlier today, no problems |
| 15:06.51 | vhallac | I think I will refrain from using it for a while. :) |
| 15:08.22 | asmodai | harl: Given the update server can't be reached, yea, surprised if people can use it at all. |
| 15:08.32 | asmodai | Poor premium subscribers. |
| 15:08.42 | DWSR | *shrug* |
| 15:08.47 | DWSR | I'm quite happy with Curse so far. |
| 15:09.01 | DWSR | I understand that Premium is not an SLA guarentee. |
| 15:09.24 | harl | neither is connecting on a non-premium basis |
| 15:10.02 | DWSR | It also happens I don't have WoW this weekend, so *shrug* |
| 15:10.10 | DWSR | As long as WA's repository system's online, that's all I really care about right now. |
| 15:13.12 | yoshimo | curse&wa always have problems during weekends, its nothing unusual ;) |
| 15:13.43 | wink | needs more torrenting |
| 15:14.29 | asmodai | Fear not the psyker. |
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| 15:24.48 | Fisker | damnit Torhal |
| 15:24.55 | Fisker | you must be here when i'm not busy :P |
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| 15:40.36 | asmodai | Fisker: It's his Fisker radar. |
| 15:43.58 | Fisker | naw |
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| 16:07.02 | Ackis | anyone having issues with wowace/cf? |
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| 16:10.10 | neon_ | Which is currently the "best" tooltip mod in terms of code quality and number of features vs performance? Anyone got a recommendation? :) |
| 16:11.04 | Ackis | 09:09RepoNew announcement: http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/curse-com-server-problems/ |
| 16:11.08 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie 043.3 Release 2 * r151 : Tagging as 3.3 Release 2 (because I forgot before).. |
| 16:11.16 | yoshimo | whats wrong with the default tooltip neon? |
| 16:11.23 | yoshimo | zeksie is alive? ;) |
| 16:12.03 | neon_ | I've gotten used to a certain layout in the tooltip that's all :) |
| 16:17.45 | SunTsu | Zeksie's alive? |
| 16:18.04 | SunTsu | parties |
| 16:18.05 | yoshimo | SunTsu, how would you see repos most recent announce? ;) |
| 16:18.49 | Killmore | since yesterday my curse client is stuck at "preparing download..." when I click update and then "download failed" anyone else ? |
| 16:19.04 | Ackis | Killmore: lots of people |
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| 16:24.02 | Fisker | zeksie is too late (executos) |
| 16:25.59 | yoshimo | the quote is wrong fisker ;) |
| 16:26.39 | nevcairiel | too soon, you've awakend me too soon, executos! |
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| 16:39.34 | Pneumatus^ | anyone know if seal of justice stuns the valks on LK? |
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| 16:44.33 | ckknight | hey, are people still having issues with curse.com? |
| 16:45.53 | asmodai | ckknight: static.curse.com seems to throw a hissy fit |
| 16:46.09 | ckknight | how so? |
| 16:46.26 | asmodai | ckknight: Tries to connect, but seems to be timing out |
| 16:46.41 | asmodai | ckknight: Same for media.curse.com |
| 16:47.48 | ckknight | where do you live? |
| 16:48.05 | asmodai | ckknight: NL |
| 16:48.11 | asmodai | ckknight: static and media die for me after reaching: |
| 16:48.13 | asmodai | po1-30g.ar2.nyc3.us.nlayer.net |
| 16:48.34 | asmodai | yet www.curse.com also passes that node |
| 16:48.39 | asmodai | and continues on without any problems |
| 16:48.51 | asmodai | 12 po1-30g.ar2.nyc3.us.nlayer.net (69.31.95.154) 104.003 ms 104.270 ms 105.172 ms |
| 16:48.54 | asmodai | 13 as25653.ge1-2.ar2.nyc3.us.nlayer.net (69.31.95.26) 105.929 ms 105.013 ms 104.281 ms |
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| 16:49.07 | asmodai | vs |
| 16:49.08 | asmodai | 12 po1-30g.ar2.nyc3.us.nlayer.net (69.31.95.154) 102.433 ms 126.233 ms 102.694 ms |
| 16:49.12 | asmodai | 13 * * |
| 16:50.00 | asmodai | ckknight: Hope that helps a bit, if you want full traces, I can paste 'm for ya |
| 16:50.09 | ckknight | yea, paste em |
| 16:50.12 | asmodai | moment |
| 16:51.13 | quiescens | oh since you're on the subject th website doesn't load for me either |
| 16:51.20 | quiescens | the* |
| 16:51.21 | ckknight | where do you live, quiescens? |
| 16:51.26 | quiescens | australia |
| 16:52.00 | asmodai | ckknight: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/183902/ |
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| 16:54.15 | quiescens | technically |
| 16:54.25 | quiescens | it could just be really very slow |
| 16:54.32 | quiescens | but I gave up after a couple minutes |
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| 16:57.15 | quiescens | interestingly enough, the as25653 hop is giving over 80% packet loss when tracerouting to static.curse.com, but gives 0% packet loss on the same hop if the traceroute's destination is www.curse.com |
| 16:58.53 | quiescens | so it doesn't seem to be total failure, or just consistently slow so much as losses of some sort |
| 17:03.43 | quiescens | its probably asmodai's fault somehow |
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| 17:11.04 | silentium | ~seen zeksie |
| 17:11.07 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 74d 17h 42m 40s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
| 17:15.32 | yoshimo | do the new s8 items include a healing mace? |
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| 17:16.53 | CrazyBenny | yes |
| 17:22.28 | nevcairiel | man its harder then i thought to find a proper mainboard for my old c2d |
| 17:23.00 | quiescens | define "proper" |
| 17:23.06 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:23.20 | quiescens | what's wrong with any old mobo |
| 17:23.50 | koaschten | nevcairiel i have a spare GA-G33m-ds2r ;) |
| 17:25.21 | nevcairiel | i'm looking for one with 2 gigabit lan connections and preferably 8 sata ports |
| 17:25.24 | nevcairiel | and its hard |
| 17:26.30 | sb|work | GA DS4 |
| 17:26.39 | sb|work | but not available anymore :o |
| 17:26.53 | nevcairiel | yeah i found some board on the gigabyte page that would do what i want |
| 17:26.57 | nevcairiel | but cant buy them anymore |
| 17:27.08 | sb|work | you can buy my old DS4 :p |
| 17:28.13 | nevcairiel | i would prefer having full warranty, fwiw :d |
| 17:29.08 | asmodai | heh |
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| 17:29.37 | sb|work | well i would also like to have enough money for i7 + BOARD :P |
| 17:29.51 | asmodai | quiescens: Yea |
| 17:29.51 | nevcairiel | GA-EP45-DS5 would be nice, it comes with 2 GbE and 10 SATA2 ports |
| 17:29.54 | asmodai | quiescens: Blame me! :D |
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| 17:30.10 | quiescens | blames asmodai |
| 17:30.13 | nevcairiel | I guess i could buy it from the UK |
| 17:30.22 | nevcairiel | they still have it |
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| 17:34.00 | nevcairiel | Hm ASUS has an interesting board, and they provide a EFI bios for people that want to try |
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| 17:35.33 | sb|work | what happened to your mainboard? |
| 17:35.48 | nevcairiel | it broke last year, and i upgraded to an i7 |
| 17:36.00 | ckknight | hey all, try pinging curse now |
| 17:36.01 | nevcairiel | but i want to use the old c2d and ram and all for a server now |
| 17:36.08 | asmodai | ckknight: moment |
| 17:36.27 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I still need to start ordering my gear |
| 17:36.46 | Fisker | what board is that nevcairiel ? |
| 17:36.54 | asmodai | ckknight: that works for me |
| 17:36.59 | nevcairiel | If i had money growing out my ears i would just buy some board and use a dual-link intel server NIC, and a 8 port raid controller |
| 17:37.02 | Thaoky | ckknight: for me too |
| 17:37.24 | asmodai | ckknight: as an aside |
| 17:37.40 | asmodai | ckknight: This seems to fix the problems with the curse client update server being unreachable as well |
| 17:37.55 | asmodai | Jups, works. |
| 17:37.58 | Fisker | i'd buy a killernic |
| 17:38.01 | asmodai | Can update addons again |
| 17:38.10 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel what motherboard are you talking about? |
| 17:38.20 | nevcairiel | eh, the p5q deluxe |
| 17:38.26 | Fisker | bah |
| 17:38.28 | koaschten | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12730404058&sid=1&pageNo=4#71 |
| 17:38.48 | Fisker | is that you koaschten ? |
| 17:39.15 | nevcairiel | On another note, i raided today with opengl, and my performance really improved alot over the silly directx engine |
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| 17:39.22 | nevcairiel | just have to live with a software cursor |
| 17:39.27 | koaschten | no, i just thought that info would be interesting |
| 17:39.30 | asmodai | *achoo* |
| 17:40.10 | nevcairiel | either wow or the nvidia driver seem to seriously screw up some DX handling there |
| 17:40.12 | quiescens | so why did you break it in the first place asmodai |
| 17:40.29 | sb|work | koaschten: well its not!! :p |
| 17:40.47 | sb|work | and there is no solution to fix that keylogger/account hacking thingie :/ |
| 17:41.02 | asmodai | nevcairiel: the hovering? |
| 17:41.07 | asmodai | oh |
| 17:41.09 | asmodai | the entire engine |
| 17:41.11 | nevcairiel | not only that |
| 17:41.17 | nevcairiel | but that was a perfect example |
| 17:41.22 | quiescens | sure there is, its called "stop installing keyloggers" |
| 17:41.45 | sb|work | because even one-time passwords would not fix it, the program could just grab your keys, send a "wrong" authenticator key to the server, so you wont use your generated key -> its still active/valid :o |
| 17:41.54 | sb|work | yea quiescens :/ |
| 17:41.55 | koaschten | sb|work sure |
| 17:42.09 | nevcairiel | they still have to be really fast |
| 17:42.11 | koaschten | sb|work you could tell your router to route all traffic to that ip to 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:42.16 | nevcairiel | the key times out aftera minute or so |
| 17:42.21 | sb|work | hmm right to THAT ip |
| 17:42.46 | sb|work | so they could just use like another 1 million possible ips? :p |
| 17:42.59 | koaschten | yeah, but currently it's hardcoded to that one ip ;) |
| 17:43.12 | sb|work | but right, its a fast fix for THIS trojan |
| 17:43.38 | sb|work | but honestly, someone who knows how to blacklist that ip.. should never be in that situation :p |
| 17:44.38 | asmodai | ckknight: So, what did ya do? |
| 17:44.50 | ckknight | our hoster fucked up the iptables |
| 17:44.54 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 17:45.01 | nevcairiel | never change iptables in a friday! |
| 17:45.14 | asmodai | ckknight: Figures. |
| 17:45.24 | asmodai | No big changes on Friday, period. |
| 17:45.25 | quiescens | they inexplicably caused 80% packet loss? |
| 17:46.24 | Repo | 10bigbrother_ready: 03profalbert 07master * v0.9-21-g186ab3d Core.lua: [+1 commit] fix auracheck, to really check spellids |
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| 17:47.23 | quiescens | nevcairiel: how much verification is there when someone tries to remove an authenticator from an account? |
| 17:47.32 | nevcairiel | 2 keys |
| 17:47.38 | quiescens | ah |
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| 17:50.21 | quiescens | it probably wouldn't be too hard to trick most people into trying to log in a couple of times |
| 17:51.12 | quiescens | if you just make wow give some sort of soft error like the generic connection failed things most people would try to log in a couple times before they try to find out why it didn't work |
| 17:52.19 | yoshimo | shouldnt a firewall block a man in the middle attack ? |
| 17:53.03 | koaschten | as fisker lined out it so nicely on that thread |
| 17:53.07 | koaschten | its not a true MITM |
| 17:53.09 | arkanes | short answer is no |
| 17:53.22 | koaschten | its a software that intercepts the traffic already on your machine |
| 17:53.26 | koaschten | so its more a trojan |
| 17:53.47 | quiescens | an appropriately configured firewall could pick up on it and/or block it |
| 17:53.56 | quiescens | because there would be a connection to something else |
| 17:53.58 | arkanes | some time ago, a common feature of firewalls like ZoneAlarm was blocking outgoing connections in an attempt to catch this kind of thing |
| 17:54.03 | quiescens | but that could easily be worked around |
| 17:54.18 | quiescens | open up a little internet explorer window and submit it to a website instead |
| 17:54.22 | arkanes | it's not as common anymore because a) it's really annoying and b) trivial to bypass |
| 17:54.23 | quiescens | send an email or an im |
| 17:54.26 | yoshimo | i have agnitums outpost firewall pro ;) |
| 17:54.40 | quiescens | rather than an arbitrary connection |
| 17:55.00 | quiescens | most people have their firewalls set to allow their email clients and/or browsers |
| 17:57.15 | koaschten | quiescens but probably wouldnt pick up it because the thread creating the connection would be wow.exe which probably got whitelisted by the user before |
| 18:00.54 | yoshimo | if something else than my mailprogram wants to send mail, shouldnt i get an alert? |
| 18:01.13 | quiescens | but what stops something from using your mail program to send mail? |
| 18:02.55 | yoshimo | i would say i should get a warning if someone else than me wants to use it, asking for my password maybe |
| 18:03.24 | yoshimo | i cant stand the idea, that they do it without me noticing ;) |
| 18:03.36 | quiescens | or even easier, what stops something from making your default browser open a url of "http://www.somewebsite.com/somescript?user=[something]&pass=[something]"? |
| 18:09.14 | yoshimo | can they do that invisible without opening up a window? |
| 18:10.33 | quiescens | you could pretty easily |
| 18:12.11 | yoshimo | mhmm, too many criminal minds out there.. i wonder why my account still belongs to me |
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| 18:15.54 | quiescens | because the solution is to not let the computer get compromised |
| 18:16.13 | quiescens | rather than trying to prevent a compromised computer from phoning home |
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| 18:18.14 | Gnarfoz | <koaschten> sb|work you could tell your router to route all traffic to that ip to 127.0.0.1 <-- how about binding authenticator requests to the requesting client IP instead? |
| 18:18.43 | sb|work | uhm? |
| 18:18.55 | Gnarfoz | (that'd be on blizzard's side) |
| 18:19.19 | Gnarfoz | and would totally eliminate this problem, afaict |
| 18:19.37 | sb|work | well, how? |
| 18:19.52 | sb|work | whats the "requesting client ip"? |
| 18:20.01 | Gnarfoz | your ip |
| 18:20.10 | sb|work | could also be attackers ip |
| 18:20.20 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 18:20.25 | sb|work | why? :p |
| 18:21.27 | Gnarfoz | you start logging in, the server knows now it should expect an authenticator key from your IP soon and it can compute which those will be... so don't accept *those* keys from anywhere but your IP? |
| 18:22.02 | sb|work | hmmm okay, right, so bind login time + next 1 minute to your ip |
| 18:22.29 | Gnarfoz | it's probably a moot point, the trojan could just do the stuff in account management on your computer instead |
| 18:23.03 | Gnarfoz | there really is no security to be hand as soon as your box is already compromised ;X |
| 18:23.46 | yoshimo | well, getting it compromised is easier than preventing it ;) |
| 18:23.53 | yoshimo | for most people |
| 18:27.49 | quiescens | passes out the plates of malware and biscuits |
| 18:28.11 | Gnarfoz | hmmm malware. |
| 18:28.23 | yoshimo | i prefer biscuits ;) |
| 18:37.23 | koaschten | cookies anyone? |
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| 18:45.06 | Repo | - Autosummon fix stealth buff checking |
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| 19:20.05 | sag_ich_nicht | .reverse wiki.alliedmods.net |
| 19:20.09 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik * r101 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 19:20.11 | Repo | SmartMount: |
| 19:20.12 | Repo | - fixed wintergrasp problem (tickey #62) |
| 19:20.13 | sag_ich_nicht | wait wrong command |
| 19:20.14 | Repo | - fixed the 280+310% random mount code (ticket #63) |
| 19:20.15 | Repo | - added a few mounts (ticket #64) |
| 19:20.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ~reverse wiki.alliedmods.net |
| 19:21.47 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik 04v3.3-102 * r102 : Tagging as v3.3-102 |
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| 19:26.23 | Greencoat1982 | This is warcraft wow right? |
| 19:27.07 | Greencoat1982 | if so can someone tell me how man f'n patches I"m going to have to go through just to try this game? |
| 19:27.56 | Arrowmaster | what did you install? |
| 19:28.44 | nevcairiel | if you used the webinstaller, you'll need about 3 or so |
| 19:28.49 | nevcairiel | one big one, two smaller ones |
| 19:29.14 | Arrowmaster | there is a streaming trial client that shouldnt need patched but its a bit weird |
| 19:29.53 | Arrowmaster | but the full installer is probably wow 3.0 or 3.3, if its 3.0 then there is a big patch that will take it from 3.0 to 3.3 |
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| 19:33.22 | Greencoat1982 | Well I went through the communty site |
| 19:33.37 | Greencoat1982 | I think I finally got it all done |
| 19:33.47 | Greencoat1982 | if it says play it should be ready right? |
| 19:34.21 | Greencoat1982 | Talk about frustrating, att is being crap so I only had a fraction of my normal bandwidth |
| 19:34.48 | Greencoat1982 | I had to dL everything at only about .1 Mbps |
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| 19:40.32 | Ingela | Olog, if i have a bigwigs scene up and bigwigs enabled will i see goo on putricde? |
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| 19:57.08 | zoktar | nyone know a simple addon to track combat rez, need it for my dk, so i know when its ok to raize ally. |
| 19:58.32 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r457 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:58.34 | Repo | - added user-submitted "reverse direction" option that lets bars fill top to bottom instead of bottom to top |
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| 20:03.42 | Olog | Ingela maybe |
| 20:03.54 | Ingela | why maybe+ :D |
| 20:04.06 | Olog | I haven't actually tested it in a real raid :D |
| 20:04.18 | Olog | will in half an hour or so |
| 20:04.22 | Ingela | oh |
| 20:04.25 | Ingela | but that's how to do it right |
| 20:04.29 | Olog | yeah |
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| 20:04.49 | Ingela | i will try it now then aswell |
| 20:05.12 | Olog | and there's also the problem that you only get it on one of the goo targets |
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| 20:14.15 | Ingela | oh yeah Olog it worked at least! |
| 20:14.35 | Ingela | but yeah, it's quite buggy sometimes, and as said it's only one |
| 20:16.31 | Olog | it did work though? |
| 20:16.41 | Olog | was kind of expecting it not to :D |
| 20:18.51 | Ingela | yeah it worked |
| 20:18.58 | Ingela | saw some red circles on the ground! |
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| 20:27.27 | Venara|afk | vhaarr: You're "rabbit", right? |
| 20:29.07 | Venara|afk | Hm, will ask again later |
| 20:29.19 | Venara|afk | (Got a slight problem with BW_SindragosaIcons) |
| 20:32.22 | vhaarr | yes I am |
| 20:32.30 | Venara|afk | ah just lovely :> |
| 20:33.23 | Venara|afk | So BW_SI is using other icons than those BigWigs used to use before. If i set "local current" to 8 and current = current - 1 it should set them in reverse order, right? |
| 20:33.28 | Venara|afk | meaning, starting with skull |
| 20:33.39 | vhaarr | yes |
| 20:33.49 | Venara|afk | nice, thank you very much :-) |
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| 20:35.58 | Fisker | we just pew pew'd sindragosa |
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| 21:00.05 | Pneumatus^ | hmm, i should disable fubar2broker at some point and see what i've got still using it |
| 21:00.22 | PProvost | Funny... was thinking the same thing just the other da |
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| 21:00.58 | Pneumatus | im sure i've got it running for something, but i've got no idea what |
| 21:05.28 | wink | hm, I have a lot I think |
| 21:06.34 | wink | so much I can't even find anything in my addon dir spontaneously |
| 21:07.54 | wink | why the hell is my screeny folder empty? o_O |
| 21:08.17 | asmodai | wink: You have no interesting things to screenshot. |
| 21:08.23 | wink | oh, wrong harddisk, wrong wow folder |
| 21:10.58 | wink | OptiTaunt has FuBarPlugin, AddonSpamFu, MailExpiryFu |
| 21:11.01 | wink | that was it |
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| 22:04.34 | asmodai | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_3huc2AAwg&hd=1 |
| 22:07.47 | sb|work | hmmm.. whats the trick for frostmourne realm in lk encounter? :o |
| 22:07.59 | Stanzilla | dispel/kick/counter etc |
| 22:08.07 | sb|work | its easy as healer, but dds keep failign |
| 22:08.13 | sb|work | not possible as hunter :o |
| 22:08.19 | Stanzilla | pet? |
| 22:08.30 | Stanzilla | stun or charge or so? |
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| 22:25.51 | zoktar | anyone know an addon to track raid rebirth cd' or when there offcd?. |
| 22:26.23 | Caleb| | ora? |
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| 22:31.05 | koaschten | @addon ora3 |
| 22:31.11 | zoktar | ill try it thnx |
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| 22:32.34 | Fisker | slaps koaschten around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:38.33 | asmodai | Fisker: heh |
| 22:38.58 | asmodai | Fisker: that 3d thor portrait where he raises the metal hand greeting, got to be inspired by Chris Metzen |
| 22:39.06 | asmodai | He always does that in interviews |
| 22:39.41 | KriLL3 | asmodai: what 3d thor portrait? |
| 22:40.27 | asmodai | KriLL3: SC2 you have the Thor unit |
| 22:40.37 | asmodai | KriLL3: And every unit has this 3d moving portrait, right? |
| 22:40.46 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 22:40.47 | asmodai | KriLL3: So the one for Thor does this metal hand gesture |
| 22:41.03 | asmodai | That Chris Metzen also does whenever you see an interview with him. |
| 22:41.09 | asmodai | Also wears earrings, et cetera. |
| 22:41.13 | KriLL3 | gotcha |
| 22:41.16 | asmodai | looks a lot like Metzen in fact XD |
| 22:41.43 | KriLL3 | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/3/3f/Thor_SC2_Head1.jpg |
| 22:41.45 | KriLL3 | yeah it does |
| 22:42.13 | KriLL3 | http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/08/chris_metzen.jpg |
| 22:42.15 | asmodai | http://www.gamer-source.com/image/news/2009/6-15/metzen.jpg |
| 22:42.21 | asmodai | yeah |
| 22:42.30 | asmodai | KriLL3: Got to be him right? :) |
| 22:42.37 | KriLL3 | yeah, same glasses even |
| 22:42.45 | KriLL3 | though they're shades instead of transparent |
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| 22:45.20 | asmodai | omg |
| 22:45.24 | asmodai | this is painful to watch |
| 22:45.30 | asmodai | 2 vs 2 match |
| 22:45.56 | asmodai | and 3 people are pretty ok rts players, and one real beginner |
| 22:46.15 | asmodai | imagine how much it sucks to play with that beginner XD |
| 22:46.46 | KriLL3 | bad if the 2 opponents figure it out and just pile on him |
| 22:46.56 | asmodai | Oh they did |
| 22:47.12 | asmodai | voidrays + marines/siege tank to wipe his base away |
| 22:47.20 | asmodai | other player had to rush in with marines, marauders and thors. |
| 22:47.41 | asmodai | guy just keeps building photon cannons instead of units. >_< |
| 22:47.53 | asmodai | 3000 crystal and 1000 gas in his 'bank'. |
| 22:48.05 | KriLL3 | is it good tactically to defend a total noob? wouldn't it be better to hold back and save up your units? |
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| 22:51.21 | asmodai | KriLL3: 2 vs 1 you almost always lose. |
| 22:52.22 | KriLL3 | is it because you can't keep up if they attack from different flaks at the same time? |
| 22:53.45 | asmodai | Economy-wise it's 200% against yours. |
| 22:53.53 | asmodai | So you have less units in the end anyway. |
| 22:54.05 | asmodai | It's possible, but if they're decent, it's very hard :) |
| 22:54.14 | KriLL3 | but if you got as many bases etc as the 2 opponents wouldn't you have the same economy? or is there a per player cap? |
| 22:55.59 | asmodai | hmm |
| 22:56.01 | asmodai | fair point |
| 22:56.06 | asmodai | Assuming you manage to do that ;) |
| 22:56.19 | asmodai | but you're still pitting your actions per minute vs 2 other people |
| 22:56.20 | asmodai | hahaha, omg |
| 22:56.27 | asmodai | this beginner guy was wiped |
| 22:56.35 | asmodai | and now built a nexus in the ally's base >_< |
| 22:56.46 | KriLL3 | asmodai: not at all hard if you're a crazed korean on speed |
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| 22:59.50 | asmodai | KriLL3: *grin* |
| 22:59.54 | asmodai | anyway, beddie time |
| 23:03.41 | Fisker | i troll u asmodai |
| 23:13.28 | p3lim | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4804558&op=2&o=global&view=global&subj=729715794&id=729715794#!/photo.php?pid=4804558&id=729715794&fbid=258892580794 |
| 23:13.32 | p3lim | wups |
| 23:15.16 | Zyn | is dis sum jailbait? |
| 23:15.27 | Zyn | (I would not hit it) |
| 23:19.06 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.2.0.0 * r460 : |
| 23:19.08 | Repo | Added a basic "art" remover feature, simple removal of lines with nothing but symbols. |
| 23:19.09 | Repo | Blacklist update. |
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| 23:23.16 | Pneumatus | bad times, only 7th disc in the world for LK25 :< |
| 23:24.50 | Pneumatus | Ingela: i beat you! |
| 23:28.48 | Groktar | hrm? |
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| 23:55.26 | Ingela | Pneumatus, :( |
