00:04.20 | Shadowed | hmm I think I just crashed my server somehow, awesome |
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00:26.31 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar * r4 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
00:26.55 | Repo | - Added reverse support (when sending message, ensures everyone can see symbols by replacing locale-dependant aliases by rt1-8) |
00:26.56 | Repo | - Added german translation |
00:26.56 | Repo | - Added support for raid warning popping on screen |
00:28.38 | profalbert | damn, my twink just got HoR as random-heroic. I failed at keeping his gear low... |
00:31.29 | Repo | 10chatraidicontranslator: 03Mokhtar 04v1.1 * r5 : Tagging as v1.1 |
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00:55.51 | Repo | 10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.4.1-beta-5-gf0d23ed ScriptEnv.lua: [+1 commit] fix that bug in ShortClassification that occured on "trivial" mobs (gotcha!) |
00:59.28 | vhaarr | profalbert: news? |
00:59.40 | profalbert | yeah |
01:00.03 | profalbert | the output tells me that reincarnation is on cooldown |
01:00.11 | profalbert | and that useSoulstone is invoked |
01:00.56 | vhaarr | not in that order I hope |
01:00.57 | profalbert | http://paste.wowace.com/1757 |
01:01.03 | profalbert | no |
01:01.15 | vhaarr | right, 0, 0 |
01:01.17 | vhaarr | ffs |
01:01.32 | vhaarr | okay I need to add a 1 second delay then, jeez |
01:06.41 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r348 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Add a 1 second delay to the ankh check. |
01:06.46 | vhaarr | any other shamans in here able to test that now, profalbert has a CD |
01:09.29 | BWMerlin | would jumping off dala and then anking do the trick? |
01:09.44 | profalbert | in a group yes |
01:10.26 | vhaarr | make sure the cooldown monitor is enabled and that you checked "Ankh" under the shaman options |
01:10.33 | vhaarr | or "Reincarnation", I guess it's called |
01:11.51 | BWMerlin | ok give me a second and ill test it |
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01:20.53 | BWMerlin | where is the cooldown options? |
01:21.08 | BWMerlin | i right click on the cooldown window and it doesnt show anything about shaman cd's |
01:22.14 | profalbert | 7 min CD left ;) |
01:23.24 | BWMerlin | found it |
01:23.27 | BWMerlin | ok it seems to work |
01:23.31 | BWMerlin | ank was checked |
01:23.34 | BWMerlin | and i jumped off dala |
01:23.38 | BWMerlin | and then anked |
01:23.44 | BWMerlin | no errors in stack |
01:23.51 | BWMerlin | and the cd appears in the cd window |
01:25.56 | vhaarr | and some prints to chat? |
01:26.00 | vhaarr | show me ze prints |
01:26.26 | BWMerlin | oRA3: UseSoulstone invoked. |
01:26.27 | BWMerlin | [11:23] oRA3: 6976.395:1800. |
01:26.29 | BWMerlin | [11:23] oRA3: Reincarnation is on cooldown. |
01:26.30 | BWMerlin | [11:23] oRA3: Sending Reincarnation cooldown to the raid. |
01:27.08 | vhaarr | sweeet |
01:27.34 | vhaarr | alright there is one known issue though if you die and use a soulstone with the next 6min it will restart the Ankh CD, I think |
01:27.37 | vhaarr | but who cares |
01:28.42 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r349 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Remove debug prints. |
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01:45.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2869 Database/Engineering.lua: |
01:45.13 | Repo | Fixed "Wonderheal XT68 Shades" showing the wrong custom string. |
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02:00.58 | ausmara | Hmm |
02:01.01 | ausmara | /cast[help] Cleanse Spirit; [mod:shift,target=focus] Purge; [nomod,harm] Purge |
02:01.07 | ausmara | Would that execute correctly. |
02:03.09 | ausmara | *? |
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02:14.40 | Groktar | good lord |
02:14.45 | Groktar | just gkicked a warlock |
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02:20.11 | Primer | Bear tank...glove enchant...+20 agil? |
02:20.25 | Primer | Seems that threat+parry is useless for bears |
02:22.51 | vhaarr | it's useless for everyone |
02:23.12 | vhaarr | 2% is so low it would never matter |
02:23.12 | BWMerlin | i have threat+ parry on my warrior |
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02:23.31 | Primer | and I on my DK |
02:23.46 | BWMerlin | i dont do hard enough content to argue one way or the other about its value |
02:24.53 | vhaarr | I do, it's worthless |
02:25.00 | vhaarr | get stamina instead |
02:25.39 | BWMerlin | stam is so boring |
02:25.46 | Primer | What do bear tanks normally gem for then? Agil up to a certain dodge rating, then stam? Or just pure stam? |
02:25.58 | Primer | so LW stam enchant? |
02:26.02 | Primer | for the gloves? |
02:26.26 | vhaarr | yes |
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02:33.12 | Groktar | the lock said we should go do 2 normal 25 mans since saurfang was "too hard" for us |
02:33.23 | Groktar | and then he bitched about going in the "bad" 10m group |
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03:12.20 | WobWork | I have the engineer enchant on my gloves |
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03:19.24 | Primer | You don't have permission to do that |
03:19.32 | Primer | seems that addons can't auto-repair any more? |
03:19.51 | quiescens | you mean on the ptr? |
03:20.03 | Primer | I don't care about PTR |
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03:30.51 | Primer | Someone talk bear tanking with me, please |
03:31.11 | BWMerlin | i am playing my druid tank atm |
03:31.14 | Primer | t10 tanking gloves...red gem slot |
03:31.21 | Primer | 30 stam gem + 20 agil enchant? |
03:31.23 | BWMerlin | im only lvl 76 |
03:31.24 | Primer | or...? |
03:31.37 | BWMerlin | i really dont know alot of druids |
03:31.42 | Primer | neither do I |
03:31.47 | Primer | most that I do know are resto |
03:32.12 | BWMerlin | EH seems to be the go so probably see what gives you more, the armour from the agility or the extra stam |
03:32.46 | Primer | errr |
03:32.48 | Groktar | "Thor and Ripten love Necrid's custom D&D adventures. Aether rolls 2D10. Critical fail. Aether dies." |
03:32.52 | Primer | You lost me |
03:32.54 | Groktar | that's our gmotd |
03:33.11 | Primer | "EH seems to be the go" does not compute |
03:34.55 | BWMerlin | EH = effective health |
03:35.05 | BWMerlin | how much raw dmg can you take before you die |
03:35.16 | Primer | wow, I don't have 30k HP in bear in tank spec |
03:35.29 | Primer | time to farm some gear |
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03:35.47 | BWMerlin | armour and stam give you EH (plz check tankspot for exact deatils) |
03:36.21 | Primer | 26k armor |
03:36.51 | arkanes | bears have always been pretty rough to gear up at the start |
03:36.57 | arkanes | finding the right loot is hard |
03:37.06 | Primer | oh wow, I have an ungemmed, un-buckled belt too |
03:37.45 | Primer | arkanes: well, right now I'm using a str/stam neck in favor of agil since it have more stam |
03:38.13 | arkanes | sure |
03:39.18 | Primer | as well as str ring |
03:41.03 | Primer | 35.6% dodge in bear |
03:41.19 | arkanes | yeah you're gonna want more than that |
03:41.28 | Primer | well, I have a ton of blues |
03:41.59 | arkanes | using your healer queues to subsidize t9 tank gear is probably the way to go |
03:46.22 | BWMerlin | i do something similar with my warrior tank |
03:46.36 | BWMerlin | short q's as tank and i gear up my fury set |
03:55.56 | WobWork | yeah |
03:56.04 | WobWork | I'm subisidising my healer set with tanking queues |
03:56.59 | WobWork | has a bare tank |
03:57.14 | WobWork | I've been told to just gem/enchant for stamina |
03:57.47 | arkanes | I see some bears that favor agi more heavily |
03:58.18 | WobWork | personally, as a healer, I like the bears that don't get hit |
03:58.27 | WobWork | rather than the ones with ridiculous hp |
03:58.38 | BWMerlin | i was told a few patch's ago now that after a certain point putting some +def gave more in return then agility |
03:58.51 | WobWork | well dodge of course has DM |
03:58.59 | arkanes | that could be possible |
03:59.13 | arkanes | but you'd have to have an awful lot of agi, and very little defense |
03:59.15 | WobWork | dodge and parry all have diminishing returns |
03:59.21 | Primer | bears can't parry |
03:59.32 | WobWork | defense isn'taffected by DM as roughly |
03:59.41 | WobWork | but yeah. bears can't take advantage of the parry |
03:59.46 | arkanes | it is in fact affect exactly the same |
04:00.09 | WobWork | although, tbh |
04:00.19 | WobWork | I've always wondered how I can swipe 360 degrees |
04:00.29 | arkanes | yeah it's silly |
04:00.39 | arkanes | it used to be a cone and all the bears qqed |
04:00.40 | WobWork | what am I -standing- on if I use all four paws to claw at things? =P |
04:00.44 | arkanes | grass being greener and all that |
04:01.02 | WobWork | or am I just really ... uh... "gifted" |
04:01.04 | arkanes | in fairness it was a relatively short range cone, not as big as say shockwave |
04:06.29 | Primer | heh, I'm still using 2 BoA items in my tanking set |
04:07.04 | Aeyan | I think a lot of bear tanks use the +sta armor kit on their gloves |
04:07.17 | Aeyan | Since stamina scales so well for you |
04:07.17 | Primer | I went with agil for now |
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04:20.33 | Aeyan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
04:20.49 | Aeyan | Not quite as entertaining as the 'gui in visual basic' trace, but entertaining |
04:23.32 | Megalon | t3h l337 will come AND GET YOU AEYAN |
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05:13.18 | Primer | Anyone have an example on how to bind a mouseover event to a raid frame? |
05:18.39 | RaydenUni | lady deathwhisper adds |
05:18.42 | RaydenUni | buffed = damage |
05:18.46 | RaydenUni | reanimated = immunity? |
05:18.54 | RaydenUni | wowwiki says that buffed also has immunity |
05:18.58 | RaydenUni | in some places |
05:19.02 | RaydenUni | in others it doesn' |
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05:39.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2870 Frame.lua: |
05:39.56 | Repo | in MainPanel.scroll_frame:Update() - check to see if num_entries equals display_lines; if so, halve display_lines - fixes empty list issue. |
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07:13.44 | Repo | 10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r90 / (2 files in 1 directory): Res Bars tab options makeover |
07:13.46 | Repo | Annoying double chat message bug fixed |
07:13.47 | Repo | zhCN locale updated (thanks, Annahaid) |
07:13.49 | Repo | Miscellaneous other chat related bugs fixed |
07:16.40 | Repo | 10smartres2: 03myrroddin 04Beta 1.02 * r91 : Tagging as Beta 1.02 |
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07:24.25 | nevcairiel | morning |
07:25.55 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r273 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
07:25.57 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
07:26.11 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release * r274 : Weekly Tag - # |
07:26.22 | nevcairiel | wait .. where did the number go |
07:28.44 | Megalon | it got fiskered |
07:34.19 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release10 * r275 : Weekly Tag - #10 |
07:41.06 | Repo | 10autopartybuttons: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.2-beta-1-ge8b560d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add druid module |
07:41.41 | Myrroddin | morning to you as well |
07:43.27 | Myrroddin | hey nevcairiel are you the person to talk to about curse's addon search not finding addons? or should i poke a stick elsewhere? |
07:43.43 | orionshock | Myrroddin, start with Kaelten |
07:43.50 | orionshock | or ckknight |
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07:43.56 | mitch0 | didum |
07:44.02 | Myrroddin | alrighty, thanks |
07:44.56 | Fisker | slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout |
07:46.42 | Megalon | why so rageous |
07:47.16 | Myrroddin | alright, opinion time: since smartres2 is in beta, i have flagged the original smartres as inactive. should i go further, like abandoned or deleted? |
07:47.40 | Myrroddin | or wait unti sr2 is searchable in curse's addon search first? |
07:57.38 | Torhal | Myrroddin: Just flag it Mature so you still get points for people who have it still |
07:57.56 | Torhal | There are idiots who still have Threat-2.0 installed |
07:58.06 | Myrroddin | LOL yeah, that's true enough |
07:58.34 | Torhal | Throw a line in the original's description saying it's no longer supported and they should use the new one |
07:58.50 | nevcairiel | personally i would've just reused the project |
07:59.00 | nevcairiel | recycle user base, and all |
07:59.04 | Torhal | True that |
07:59.17 | Fisker | hmm |
07:59.31 | Fisker | even though i have all addons disabled, camera following still doesn't work |
07:59.32 | Fisker | :O |
07:59.43 | Torhal | Disable the user. |
08:00.27 | quiescens | you broke repo |
08:00.51 | nevcairiel | its just the 9am restart |
08:00.56 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
08:01.04 | Fisker | i break u quiescens |
08:01.18 | quiescens | ): |
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08:06.55 | orionshock | i guess modifiying the "name" part of Chat_MSG_* would be bad? |
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08:26.06 | Wizardling | Hi - could some friendly person post the curse.com logout link, please? |
08:27.03 | Wizardling | Once again despite multiple wipes of curse cookies the goddamn site thinks I'm logged in in one places and not logged in in another. |
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08:40.02 | orionshock | hehe... found someone that leaked _G.self |
08:40.03 | orionshock | >.> |
08:40.19 | Wizardling | Hi - could some friendly person post the curse.com logout link, please? |
08:40.47 | profalbert | http://wow.curse.com/logout.aspx |
08:40.56 | Wizardling | Cheers |
08:40.59 | nevcairiel | its not hard to figure out <.< |
08:41.11 | Wizardling | Googling wasn't getting me anywhere |
08:41.21 | Wizardling | I have it saved on my own computers |
08:41.44 | Wizardling | but the site keeps screwing up, usually when I'm without the damn logout link |
08:42.32 | Wizardling | It just keeps on screwing it cookies up year after year, and of course when I'm on a computer without access to browser cookies I'm stuffed |
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08:57.24 | Wizardling | There a curse.com rep on? |
08:57.57 | Myrroddin | i'm a curse.com moderator... something i can do? |
08:58.31 | Wizardling | No matter how many tickets I create reporting the curse cookie issue and how many times I delete all curse cookies, my tickets keep getting marked 'resolved'. |
08:58.37 | Wizardling | It's a tad frustrating. |
08:58.42 | Wizardling | Been going on years. |
08:59.09 | Shefki | Wizardling: Happens to me once every great while. |
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08:59.12 | Myrroddin | curse.com or curse client specifically? |
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08:59.37 | Shefki | Myrroddin: It's not something you can really help him with he's got the out of sync cookie issue. |
08:59.41 | Myrroddin | sorry, i mean't where are you posting tickets, so i can look them up |
08:59.51 | Wizardling | Ticket #3,194 was my latest. Yes - I was annoyed. Not good. But when I'm stuck on a work PC without access to cookies and cannot find the logout link via google, well. My frustration bioled over. |
09:00.01 | Wizardling | Sorry. |
09:00.15 | Wizardling | *boiled |
09:00.24 | Wizardling | still doesn't look right :-D |
09:00.34 | Wizardling | boy my typing AND spelling sucks tonight... |
09:00.37 | Wizardling | heh |
09:00.53 | Wizardling | Curse.com support site |
09:04.01 | Myrroddin | Wizardling yes, Shefki is correct, i'm not powerful enough on the food chain to help you. What I suggest if you believe you are getting the run around, is send a message to DoranM on curse.com.... Yes, i know he isn't the site dev, but those guys are so busy they hardly even contact us poor mods! :P |
09:05.09 | Myrroddin | you are more likely to get a response from him, although it may take a few days while he looks into the issue, especially with the weekend around the corner |
09:05.54 | Wizardling | I believe the issue is well know *shrug* |
09:06.17 | Wizardling | But thanks, I'll note that name and give it a go :-) |
09:06.27 | Myrroddin | Shefki btw, have you poked at the betas of smartres2? seems to have almost all the bugs that i can find ironed out |
09:06.47 | Shefki | Myrroddin: I haven't updated since I fixed the stuff that was bugging me. |
09:07.21 | Myrroddin | Wizardling, yes, it is well known, but that isn't why you want to talk to DoranM... you want to talk to him about WHY your tickets are getting closed and you are still having the issue |
09:07.39 | Wizardling | Unrealted: anyone know why Titan Panel is doing this? http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7954/picture137y.png |
09:08.05 | Grum | what is it doing? |
09:08.13 | Shefki | Wizardling: I think that's a Blizzard bug. |
09:08.22 | Shefki | I've noticed menus doing weird stuff like that myself. |
09:08.25 | Grum | oh the overlapping? |
09:08.28 | Wizardling | and gotcha Myrroddin :-) My crankiness hasn't helped I'm sure. But I like to think people would understand why given how it's dragged on. |
09:08.31 | Grum | (or the fading?) |
09:08.48 | Wizardling | only happens with Titan on new characters |
09:08.56 | Wizardling | pre-existing ones are ok |
09:09.02 | Wizardling | very frustrating |
09:09.04 | Grum | weird O.o |
09:09.10 | Shefki | Wizardling: Interesting. I know that people have complained about a similar bug with one of my addons. |
09:09.13 | Shefki | But I can't reproduce it. |
09:09.27 | Wizardling | and maybe I'm losing it, but I can't see a per-character Titan setting file :-( |
09:09.37 | Grum | maybe looking at it with 'framestack' on will show if some frame is overlayed orso? |
09:09.38 | Shefki | There may not be one. |
09:09.47 | Wizardling | so I don't know how to fix it my copying settings files |
09:10.31 | Wizardling | which I know worked because I did that by copying all of an old character's settings to a new one. But having already setup this new guy I hate to undo it all Grrrr... |
09:10.56 | Myrroddin | Shefki i wonder if http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssdrop/tickets/6-repeating-bad-argument-error/ is related to Wizardling's TP bug? YssDrop was working fine 2 weeks ago, and the only thing updated is WoW itself on my system |
09:12.10 | orionshock | lua bot broken? |
09:12.12 | Myrroddin | my issue is that you can no longer set and use profiles without an error, and you can no longer add or remove launchers, etc... kind of just.... stopped, frozen in place kind of thing |
09:13.37 | Myrroddin | just like Wizardling said about TP: old characters are fine, new ones are borked with YssDrop |
09:14.26 | Wizardling | Not sure when it began either. I hadn't created new characters for ages, then several around... 3.1 - 3.2 I thiinnnkk |
09:14.45 | Wizardling | anyway - that's when I noticed it |
09:14.54 | Myrroddin | anyway, bed time for me... |
09:14.59 | Wizardling | 'night |
09:16.02 | Myrroddin | Shefki http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/ if you want to check out how i ended up... at least for beta 1.x ... I'll add more features in beta 2.x |
09:17.09 | Shefki | Wizardling: Pretty sure it's either an addon conflict or a Blizzard bug: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7968/tbag.png |
09:17.12 | Shefki | The menu thing that is. |
09:17.27 | Wizardling | *laughs* Got to be a workaround... typical. Instead of playing I'm going to be troubleshooting and futzing around. |
09:17.56 | Wizardling | Shefki - looks like my TP bug, yup. |
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09:19.15 | orionshock | what am i doing wrong here? |
09:19.15 | orionshock | lua> ("|Hplayer:Volva:327|h[Volva]|h says: ..."):find("|Hplayer:(%s)") |
09:19.20 | lua_bot | orionshock: nil |
09:19.32 | Shefki | Wizardling: Can you try something for me. |
09:20.02 | Shefki | orionshock: Arguments are backwards. |
09:20.12 | Shefki | orionshock: Pretty sure find takes the pattern as the first arg. |
09:20.23 | orionshock | no it dosn't |
09:20.41 | Shefki | lua> ("|Hplayer:(%s)"):find("|Hplayer:Volva:327|h[Volva]|h says: ...") |
09:20.42 | lua_bot | Shefki: nil |
09:21.02 | orionshock | wouldn |
09:21.33 | orionshock | would't make sense if it idid |
09:21.42 | orionshock | *<3 typing today all over the place |
09:21.51 | Wizardling | Damnit - now how could copying one character's settings have worked around this menu bug if Titan Panel stores settings in /WTF/Account/AccountName/SavedVariables/Titan.lua ? |
09:22.01 | Wizardling | Yet I know it worked... |
09:22.05 | Shefki | Wizardling: Can you do me a favor... |
09:22.18 | Shefki | Type /framestack |
09:22.20 | Wizardling | Sorry Shefki - sure, I can try something :-) |
09:22.21 | Shefki | Reproduce that issue. |
09:22.44 | Shefki | Put the mouse over one of the grayed out menus. |
09:22.50 | Shefki | And post a screenshot of the tooltip. |
09:23.09 | Wizardling | *launching WoW again* |
09:25.25 | Shefki | nm |
09:25.33 | Shefki | It's a Blizzard bug. |
09:25.36 | Wizardling | http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8629/picture138.png |
09:25.46 | Shefki | It's a CreateFrame bug. |
09:26.01 | Shefki | CreateFrame screws up the framelevel sometimes. |
09:26.15 | Shefki | Yup. |
09:26.27 | Shefki | See where the <2> DropDownList2Button24 |
09:26.37 | Shefki | That should be <6> DropDownList2Button24 |
09:26.51 | Wizardling | examines Titan.lua thinking I'll manually edit to add the plugins I want. |
09:27.24 | Wizardling | hopes I know WTF I'm doing... :-) |
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09:28.35 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r205 LibFail-1.0.lua: add more shockwave spellid |
09:29.03 | Shefki | And the bug still exists in 3.3.3 PTR. |
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09:29.33 | Wizardling | It can't be affecting everyone |
09:29.44 | Wizardling | I'm not seeing other reports from TP users |
09:29.51 | Shefki | It's rare. |
09:30.03 | Shefki | The menu issue only seems to happen if you have a lot of menu items. |
09:30.07 | Wizardling | I'm special. My mother always said so ;-) |
09:30.15 | Shefki | How many it takes seems to be inconsistent. |
09:30.21 | Wizardling | Oh, well now I feel less special |
09:30.32 | Wizardling | It's just cause I'm an addon junkie, huh? |
09:31.24 | mitch0 | I seem to remember reading some addon code that had special tricks to circumwent this bug |
09:31.34 | mitch0 | donÃ't remember which one it was |
09:32.15 | Wizardling | Meh - I'm going to just live with using another character's TP settings. It aint quite the selection of plugins I want, but this is not fun any more. |
09:32.19 | Shefki | mitch0: Ark |
09:32.23 | Shefki | mitch0: And his fixes are BAD |
09:32.34 | Shefki | ArkInventory that is. |
09:32.50 | Wizardling | funny - the bug remains even after loading a character's TP settings unaffected within that character. |
09:32.55 | Shefki | The problem is that the implicit frame level that CreateFrame uses gets screwed up sometimes. |
09:33.02 | Shefki | Since 3.3.x it seems to have gotten worse. |
09:33.11 | Shefki | I never had the issue with TBag until recently and people started complaining. |
09:33.20 | Shefki | I looked into it tonight and the solution is pretty simple. |
09:33.32 | Shefki | Just explicitly set the frame level with SetFrameLevel calls. |
09:33.53 | Shefki | frame = CreateFrame("Frame",nil,parent) |
09:34.02 | Shefki | frame:SetFrameLevel(parent:GetFrameLevel()+1) |
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09:34.29 | Shefki | Normally the 2nd call is entirely redundent. But if the frame level > 126 then CreateFrame goes to hell. |
09:35.08 | Shefki | My guess is they used a short to alculate the frame level in the CreateFrame impelmentation when framelevel is really a long. |
09:35.12 | Shefki | So it wraps. |
09:35.56 | Shefki | However, as much as the menu issue seems related I'm not sure that it is. The framelevels don't seem high enough. |
09:38.25 | Wizardling | Uggg - I loath the nerfing of new characters *sigh* |
09:38.43 | Wizardling | It even tries to auto accept quests it cannot. No testing either. |
09:41.48 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r97 Ailo.lua: |
09:41.50 | Repo | Add option to use "Name - Realm"-type display of characters, so characters with the same name on different realms work |
09:42.54 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.27 * r98 : Tagging as 1.0.27 |
09:45.27 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r206 LibFail-1.0.lua: add more defile spellIds |
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09:53.29 | orionshock | wasn't Chat_MSG_Party_Leader changed to Party_leader ? |
09:53.31 | Shefki | Ok looking at the menu code it makes no sense. |
09:53.38 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
09:54.19 | Shefki | http://paste.wowace.com/1759/ |
09:54.29 | Shefki | That last looks like an infinite loop to me. |
09:54.33 | Shefki | I don't see how it gets out of it. |
09:54.38 | Torhal | orionshock: Look at Interface Kit/Data/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua |
09:54.45 | quiescens | magic |
09:54.48 | Shefki | If index > UIDROPDOWNMENU_MAXBUTTONS then it will always be true. |
09:55.27 | Shefki | Ahh duhh. |
09:55.29 | Torhal | Shefki: UIDROPDOWNMENU_MAXLEVELS = UIDROPDOWNMENU_MAXLEVELS + 1; |
09:55.31 | quiescens | .. |
09:55.32 | Shefki | They're chaning the constant. |
09:55.32 | Torhal | :D |
09:55.33 | quiescens | lol |
09:55.42 | quiescens | it obviously isn't constant then! |
09:55.56 | Shefki | Well in my mind when you put something in all caps like that it's a constant. |
09:56.06 | Torhal | It usually is |
09:56.13 | Torhal | But they're beeing noobtards. |
09:56.30 | Torhal | l2spell Torhal |
09:57.41 | quiescens | it seems the all caps thingies are more global than constant |
09:58.41 | Shefki | Yeah. |
09:59.33 | Shefki | Time to hook SetFrameLevel and see if I can figure out if something is screwing up the framelevel or it's never getting set right to begin with. |
10:01.19 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r207 LibFail-1.0.lua: more necrotic plague spellId and some bugfix |
10:02.30 | Groktar | Shefki |
10:02.35 | Shefki | Yes? |
10:02.43 | Groktar | is the bbw sound fixed on dxe? |
10:02.58 | Shefki | I don't know. |
10:03.00 | Groktar | o |
10:03.09 | Shefki | Make a ticket. |
10:03.12 | Groktar | i added it and don't remeber where i did it |
10:03.15 | Groktar | so now i'm afraid to update |
10:03.16 | Groktar | lol |
10:03.17 | quiescens | we had this pug icc where the 2nd person to die was a tank, and the tank died before the first bonestorm |
10:03.50 | quiescens | and some silly person decided to post bonestorm and coldflame fails to the raid |
10:03.55 | quiescens | as though that was the cause |
10:04.13 | quiescens | even though half the raid was standing at the doorway waiting to wipe because tanks were dead |
10:08.36 | Shefki | !api CreateFrame |
10:08.36 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
10:08.38 | Groktar | i had so much fun on our marrowgar kill this week |
10:08.50 | Groktar | i got spike during the first bone storm |
10:08.51 | Groktar | died |
10:08.54 | Groktar | never got ressed |
10:09.14 | quiescens | some of these various addons are being given too much weight by clueless players ): |
10:11.52 | orionshock | quiescens, that's why i like the old days |
10:14.07 | olafski | took my gf's raid leader a full 3 hours to get angry at people last night.. sounded funny |
10:14.18 | olafski | she wasn't doing anything wrong but several people sounded very clearly drunk on ventrilo |
10:14.26 | olafski | that guy has too much patience :< |
10:17.36 | quiescens | kill them all |
10:18.28 | olafski | your friends will abandon you! |
10:19.17 | olafski | I still maintain that c'thun sounds just like quantz from ensidia |
10:19.22 | olafski | maybe it's him :O |
10:21.00 | olafski | I should put those c'thun sounds in at random intervals in all of my addons just to freak people out |
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10:28.42 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r218 EnsidiaFails.lua: have vile gas disabled here too for now |
10:30.51 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r350 modules/Cooldowns.lua: |
10:30.53 | Repo | Use SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN instead of a custom 1 second delay. |
10:31.28 | quiescens | o.o |
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10:32.50 | Shefki | Ok I'm utterly baffled. |
10:33.04 | quiescens | dies. |
10:33.12 | Shefki | My addon uses the user placed stuff to save position. |
10:33.19 | Shefki | But the frame isn't in the layout-cache. |
10:33.41 | Shefki | If I create a new character, it's in the layout-local file. |
10:33.54 | Shefki | But my existing charactrers which position the frame exactly where I"ve configured it don't. |
10:34.01 | Shefki | No mention of the frame at all. |
10:34.07 | Shefki | yet wow somehow knows how to position it. |
10:36.59 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r351 modules/Cooldowns.lua: |
10:37.01 | Repo | Add Aura Mastery, Divine Favor, Illumination and Hand of Salvation cooldowns. |
10:40.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7408 Ulduar/IronCouncil.lua: Throttle tendril scanning a bit at IronCouncil. |
10:42.31 | Shefki | !api StartMoving |
10:42.33 | lua_bot | Frame:StartMoving: Begins repositioning the frame via mouse movement (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/StartMoving) |
10:42.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7409 / (2 files in 2 directories): One repeating timer is enough. |
10:44.39 | asmodai | Fisker: OI |
10:44.49 | asmodai | slaps Fisker with Groktar |
10:45.49 | Fisker | slaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout |
10:45.55 | Fisker | i saw you on battlecry |
10:45.56 | Fisker | you fail |
10:46.04 | asmodai | Fisker: battlecry? |
10:46.12 | asmodai | Fisker: Anyway, I might join the beta too. |
10:46.16 | Fisker | the mosaic |
10:46.26 | asmodai | I was on the mosaic? |
10:47.19 | Fisker | you're the only one in the world with the nick asmodai |
10:47.38 | asmodai | yes, but I don't use it in-game? |
10:47.43 | asmodai | in WoW at least |
10:48.06 | Fisker | fffffuuuuuuu- |
10:48.24 | Fisker | http://www.wow-europe.com/wowanniversary/battlecry/index.xml |
10:48.27 | Fisker | try it yourself |
10:48.29 | Fisker | search for asmodai |
10:48.31 | Fisker | it's totally you |
10:53.02 | asmodai | sooo not me |
10:53.14 | asmodai | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/longer-hair-resized.jpg <-- me |
10:53.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7410 Citadel/LichKing.lua: |
10:53.47 | Repo | Use a proper name for the Shadow Trap config option at Lich King. |
10:58.27 | Fisker | it's a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake |
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11:25.09 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 06next 07master * 7e9c1af /: [forced -438 +1] Setup skeleton for Bartender 4.5 Development |
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11:43.38 | asmodai | Fisker: pffft |
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11:48.16 | mitch0 | hey, new bartender coming? |
11:48.51 | nevcairiel | target date: cataclysm release |
11:49.06 | mitch0 | whatsitgonnado? |
11:49.16 | nevcairiel | work in cataclysm |
11:49.24 | mitch0 | hehe |
11:49.37 | nevcairiel | and be generally awesome |
11:49.40 | nevcairiel | but thats not new! |
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11:49.46 | mitch0 | will cata be that different? |
11:49.49 | nevcairiel | no idea |
11:50.01 | nevcairiel | but its a good point for pushing a new version |
11:51.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: indeedie |
11:53.52 | Megalon | action buttons will be reduced to 3 |
11:53.57 | Megalon | hohoho! |
11:54.01 | Megalon | you heard it here first |
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12:00.32 | nevcairiel | 3? and i was going to remove them completly |
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12:06.52 | asmodai | nevcairiel: One button ;) |
12:08.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7411 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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12:08.47 | SunTsu | but you need a special keyboard for it - that button is labelled "Smash face here" |
12:09.00 | nevcairiel | a big red button |
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12:43.32 | Repo | 10lock-smith: 03Ammo * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): fiddling with the family jewels |
12:44.00 | Repo | 10lock-smith: 03Ammo 04r60-release * r61 : Tagging as r60-release |
12:45.48 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
12:45.52 | Fisker | i could destroy you |
12:46.01 | nevcairiel | go ahead, see if i care |
12:46.16 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
12:47.47 | Fisker | fail |
12:48.00 | Fisker | anyone know what a gigabite is? |
12:48.14 | nevcairiel | a really big bite? |
12:48.49 | Fisker | well played nevcairiel |
12:50.19 | Megalon | a 10^9 bite to be precise |
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12:54.59 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
12:55.06 | Fisker | do you like me? [Y/n]: |
12:57.11 | asmodai | M |
13:05.25 | wink | ctrl+alt+del |
13:10.05 | Megalon | kill -9 Fisker |
13:13.04 | haste | that won't work |
13:13.14 | haste | you'll have to use killall if you want to do it by process name |
13:17.42 | Megalon | say that again after I hollowed his skull with a spoon |
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13:28.03 | Fisker | you wouldn't troll me haste |
13:28.50 | Repo | 10ora3: 03a9012456 * r352 locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
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13:39.33 | Fisker | Third Week (February 24 - March 3): Cute Companion Battlecry. Snap a photo of yourself with your real-life pet or a plush toy and you could bring home an ASUS ENGTS250 DK/DI/1GD3 video card! <-who'd want to win that? |
13:40.34 | nevcairiel | the 250 |
13:40.41 | nevcairiel | isnt that the rebgranded 9800? |
13:40.44 | nevcairiel | -g |
13:42.15 | Fisker | exactly |
13:42.20 | Fisker | and the 9800 is a rebranded 8800 |
13:42.47 | Fisker | it's like old, old incredibly old school |
13:42.48 | Fisker | :3 |
13:43.47 | nevcairiel | at least its a new 8800 |
13:44.38 | Fisker | well it's not like it would be cheaper to make an old 8800 :P |
13:45.03 | Kalroth | Its like if someone named Kisfer entered the channel and slapped nevcairiel |
13:45.12 | Fisker | i hope DK gets some 480's next month |
13:45.47 | Fisker | zomg 40""(that's double inch bitches)!11 monitor |
13:49.02 | olafski | as in 40 square inches? |
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13:49.49 | SunTsu | as in talking nonsense? |
13:57.56 | Megalon | why so senseless? |
13:58.05 | Megalon | ah, you are talking to Fisker |
13:58.36 | Fisker | indeed |
13:58.42 | Fisker | i live in a strange strange world |
13:58.55 | SunTsu | rather dimension |
13:59.14 | Fisker | a world where theatres display the release date based on local release rather than the us release date |
13:59.27 | Fisker | it's like fucking bizarroworld here |
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14:04.32 | Megalon | do a barrel roll |
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15:09.54 | Kaelten | g'morning |
15:17.27 | Torhal | Kaelten: Indeed |
15:21.16 | koaschten | I gotta be a bad nerd :( I am having fun looking at addon traffic during wintergrasp battle |
15:21.25 | koaschten | just to note 50% is gearscore and 25% DBM |
15:25.07 | yoshimo | dbm is sending 1hi message on raidjoin, and everyone else with the addon replies |
15:25.19 | yoshimo | if the raid changes a lot, a lot of messages come in |
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15:32.22 | Pneumatus | both are srs bsnss in wg |
15:34.17 | yoshimo | and you can still fail at archavon and friends even when you have both ;) |
15:36.37 | genetik- | no addon to fix stupid |
15:38.22 | yoshimo | if you dont have any sense for movement and the class your playing youre screwed , full stop ;) |
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15:47.44 | koaschten | http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/25/cool-stuff-a-look-at-pixar-and-lucasfilms-renderfarms/ |
15:47.51 | koaschten | woaaaaah |
15:49.23 | Hjalte | koaschten: The website at www.slashfilm.com contains elements from the site ads-display.net, which appears to host malware |
15:49.25 | Hjalte | :P |
15:49.54 | Hjalte | Chrome doesn't like it. |
15:54.18 | koaschten | my chrome doesnt complain |
15:54.40 | koaschten | go and install adthwart ;) |
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15:58.42 | Fisker | how original koaschten |
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16:01.56 | durcyn | adzapper > * |
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16:02.57 | Stanzilla | durcyn: why is that better? |
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16:17.28 | durcyn | Stanzilla: because it runs on a transparent squid proxy, zero client configuration |
16:19.38 | Repo | 10autotrack2 (experimental): 03trent2 * r3 AutoTrack2.lua: identified tracking types |
16:19.46 | olafski | sounds perfectly usable for an average home user |
16:22.02 | Fisker | your mom is perfectly usable |
16:24.23 | kappaccino | too bad she's got a long cooldown |
16:24.31 | kappaccino | might actually be viable |
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16:27.32 | Repo | 10autotrack2 (experimental): 03trent2 04v1.3 * r4 : Tagging as v1.3 |
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16:39.27 | yoshimo | does anyone of you use rawr for a holypaladin? |
16:40.50 | durcyn | olafski: pfsense on an old box is perfectly usable for an average home user, tbh |
16:41.49 | olafski | yes because using two computers to browse the web is much better than one :< |
16:43.33 | durcyn | replacing a shitty linksys consumer gateway with bsd is better. |
16:44.40 | olafski | I still disagree.. average home user has no clue how to do that or how to maintain it |
16:44.47 | olafski | and it probably uses up more power too |
16:44.56 | olafski | having a pc just as a router seems like a waste to me |
16:45.00 | olafski | but whatever floats your boat :P |
16:45.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7412 Citadel/LichKing.lua: add heroic harvest soul bar |
16:48.23 | durcyn | olafski: SFF atom boxes don't draw that much wattage |
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17:31.19 | yoshimo | what exactly is a fake cast and why should you do one? |
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17:32.08 | nevcairiel | try to cheat your enemy into blowing his interrupt |
17:32.13 | Gnarfoz | pvp only |
17:32.50 | Jedi- | casting as if you're going to really cast, then cancelling it, playing "chicken" with a potential interrupter |
17:33.44 | arkanes_ | this comic makes me sad to play wow: http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php?comicID=315 |
17:37.09 | yoshimo | so its a reace who has slower reactions jedi? ;) |
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17:38.19 | Jedi- | a feignt! |
17:38.34 | Jedi- | feint |
17:38.38 | Jedi- | yeah that looks better |
17:38.50 | arkanes_ | a feint is exactly what it is |
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18:11.20 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r457 BadBoy.lua: tweak what chat is throttled |
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18:29.46 | Fisker | steev |
18:29.54 | Fisker | you here? |
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18:49.54 | NivFreak | hrm |
18:51.59 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: does... Mr. Compreda still hang out here? |
18:52.29 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r92 Castbars.lua: |
18:52.31 | Repo | Fix error when total cast time is enabled for other bars than the player castbar. |
18:53.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: does quartz3 use InFlight anymore? |
18:54.07 | nevcairiel | no, it cannot |
18:55.04 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.36 * r93 : Tagging as 2.36 |
18:55.04 | Gnarfoz | can't? or you won't let it? ^^ |
18:55.23 | Gnarfoz | so flight timer functionality is gone for now? ;\ |
18:55.35 | nevcairiel | works with flightmap |
18:55.43 | Gnarfoz | @project flightmap |
18:55.44 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'flightmap' |
18:55.48 | Gnarfoz | :( |
18:55.58 | Gnarfoz | so I can uninstall InFlight, basically? |
18:56.06 | nevcairiel | it does have its own progress bar |
18:56.07 | Ackis | ~seen adamar |
18:56.10 | purl | adamar <n=adamar@69.73.16.202> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 129d 18h 57m 14s ago, saying: 'Curse Client v4 - update 4.0.0.969 has been released. The settings files for unmanaged addons are now displayed in the Addon Settings Cleaner. '. |
18:56.15 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: ^ |
18:56.52 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: thanks |
18:59.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it does :O |
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19:12.16 | steev | Fisker: i am now |
19:13.45 | Fisker | know anything about dk tanking? |
19:14.13 | steev | some, whats up? |
19:14.37 | Fisker | Some guy says spellhit cap is worthwhile for tanks |
19:14.47 | Fisker | and i'm like "You even have abilities considered spells?" |
19:15.04 | steev | yes we have abilities considered spells, no its not worth it to actually hit that cap |
19:15.17 | Gnarfoz | that's what the glyphs are for |
19:15.26 | Fisker | well what spells? |
19:15.27 | steev | we don't have any glyphs like that |
19:15.28 | Gnarfoz | taunts |
19:15.33 | Gnarfoz | yes, you do |
19:15.38 | Fisker | but anything else? |
19:15.42 | steev | yes Fisker |
19:15.47 | Gnarfoz | not sure, that's the only relevant one I can think of |
19:15.50 | steev | icy touch, howling blast, death coil |
19:16.05 | steev | death grip |
19:17.46 | steev | death and decay |
19:18.25 | steev | i *think* mind freeze and strangulate as well |
19:18.27 | Fisker | sure about that? :o |
19:18.42 | Fisker | thought like paladins that most of those were melee/ranged attacks? |
19:19.10 | arkanes_ | I'm sure about it and several others |
19:19.29 | arkanes_ | as far as I know, judgments "ranged melee attack" mechanic is unique |
19:19.40 | Fisker | that's crazy retarded then |
19:20.14 | arkanes_ | holy shield and conscs first tick are on spell hit for pallies |
19:20.17 | arkanes_ | also ret aura procs |
19:20.23 | Fisker | i know |
19:20.36 | Gnarfoz | ~seen shadowed |
19:20.37 | purl | shadowed <~Shadowed@li53-10.members.linode.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 32m 50s ago, saying: 'yay'. |
19:20.43 | Fisker | that's probably just a technical limitation |
19:21.30 | arkanes_ | it probably was a technical limitation 3 years ago thats never been updated :P |
19:22.02 | arkanes_ | whats the problem with DK stuff being on spell hit? |
19:22.12 | steev | Gnarfoz: btw dark command is considered physical |
19:22.58 | steev | Fisker: essentially - what a dk tank would want to hit is the expertise soft cap (for dodge and parry) more than hit cap |
19:23.07 | steev | although really |
19:23.46 | steev | i run around with ~80 hit rating, and ~30 expertise as a frost 2h tank, and have 0 issues with threat or mobs peeling off |
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19:26.14 | steev | Fisker: Blood Boil, Blood Plague (although it can't miss), Corpse Explosion, DnD, Death Coil, Icy Touch, Frost Fever (can't miss either), Howling Blast, Pestilence, Strangulate are considered spells |
19:26.33 | steev | so... |
19:26.40 | steev | shadow's edge, or cryptmaker |
19:26.51 | arkanes_ | shadows edge is cooler |
19:27.01 | steev | i've got my 1k souls collected, but i've still gotta wait for another dk to do unholy infusion before i can do it |
19:28.15 | steev | cooler sure, but i'm a human, so the mace is better for the 3 extra expertise - i think that SE its just a few miniscule stats above it |
19:29.17 | arkanes_ | you really have expertise problems? |
19:29.23 | arkanes_ | our DKs can't get rid of the stuff |
19:32.20 | steev | no, i don't |
19:32.39 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
19:32.47 | steev | i'm pretty much perfectly budgeted |
19:33.10 | steev | although when i get the t10 chest and helm i'm gonna need it :/ |
19:33.23 | steev | sincethe helm trades expertise for arp |
19:35.09 | arkanes_ | I'm wearing my t10 pants for the expertise, although I really want the crafted ones |
19:37.31 | arkanes_ | that 4 piece looks pretty cool for unholy |
19:38.01 | Repo | 10bigbrother_ready: 03profalbert 07master * v0.9-19-gcbfef76 Core.lua: [+2 commits] |
19:38.03 | Repo | cbfef76: use only the spellId to identify buffs |
19:38.04 | Repo | e9b4d8f: add list of "proper" food buffs (thanks gwelican) |
19:39.15 | arkanes_ | so each of the infusion steps in the shadowmourne line require you to play a tank role, while wearing a 2 hander |
19:39.21 | arkanes_ | that feels a little rough on the pallies and warriors |
19:45.11 | steev | mp |
19:45.12 | steev | no |
19:45.41 | steev | blood infusion is easy if you have the heals |
19:45.46 | steev | (we don't) |
19:46.37 | steev | you just have to run in next to the tank and get hit by blood mirror for a second |
19:47.36 | steev | you can get fucked by the rng though if during those few seconds, the off tank that normally soaks blood mirror gets hit by the thing that requires you to collapse |
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20:01.25 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7413 Citadel/LichKing.lua: fix up harvest soul so normal and heroic warnings don't mix |
20:06.30 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r208 LibFail-1.0.lua: fix up necrotic plague |
20:09.10 | yoshimo | does anyone know where i can find the kaelthas soundfiles in the mpqs? i just found the 5man files, im looking for the raid |
20:09.43 | arkanes_ | the wowhead comments for the bosses often contain the gossip paths |
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20:11.59 | yoshimo | ah there they are, but still i have the feeling blizzard messed them up here ;) |
20:13.15 | yoshimo | at least the chatlog has something different than the soundfile tells me |
20:13.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7414 Citadel/Valithria.lua: |
20:13.29 | Repo | Citadel/Valithria: revert 10man normal timers back to old timers, are they heroic timers maybe 7destiny? because you completely broke it. |
20:13.51 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: no he does not |
20:15.12 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
20:15.19 | ckknight | hey guy |
20:15.27 | Fisker | i'm not your guy, friend |
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20:18.52 | arkanes_ | big-wigs devs seem to spend an awful lot of time reverting peoples changes |
20:19.02 | Pneumatus | just 7destinys |
20:19.08 | Pneumatus | becuase he's a crazy korean or something |
20:20.37 | Fisker | what was the timer Funkeh`? |
20:20.38 | durcyn | he's some dumbass localizer that thinks he knows something |
20:20.50 | Fisker | he does know everything! |
20:22.19 | Gnarfoz | he knows more than some of the main bw devs who don't even raid anymore :O |
20:22.49 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. his contributions, albeit some times weird, are valuable, because they come early and often, imho) |
20:23.19 | Caleb| | how are unaccurate early timers any good ? :S |
20:23.49 | Gnarfoz | how is a bossmod without timers any good |
20:24.02 | Gnarfoz | (quality of bw timers is a whole other issue) |
20:25.15 | Caleb| | they are pretty good mostly, aren't they? |
20:25.31 | Caleb| | what other addon has better timers? |
20:25.47 | yoshimo | if you mean dbm , its main devs dont raid either |
20:26.02 | yoshimo | its just mysticalos coding modules |
20:31.31 | Hjalte | Has anyone used AVR while raiding? (Putricide for example) |
20:31.33 | Hjalte | http://www.wowace.com/addons/avr/ |
20:31.53 | Hjalte | I don't raid anymore, so I just fight imaginary dragons in Ironforge. |
20:32.14 | Hjalte | But it could be pretty awesome as a visual indicator |
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20:33.11 | arkanes_ | I really want to use avr |
20:33.24 | arkanes_ | but I can't escape the feeling that its ambition oversteps its abilities |
20:33.39 | Primer | hrmm, wouldn't blizz be pissed about something like this? |
20:33.43 | yoshimo | Hjalte i would, but i havent access to groups that are able to really make use of it ;) |
20:34.02 | yoshimo | primer, if they are , it will be fixed ;) |
20:34.06 | arkanes_ | I haven't actually tried it, but a fundamental issue is you must have an accurate camera angle in order to accurately draw those shapes, and yuo don't |
20:34.09 | Primer | that's what I'm thinking |
20:35.10 | Hjalte | The stuff it draws does get kind of wacky when eg. an object forces the camera to zoom. But otherwise it seems to work pretty well. |
20:35.32 | arkanes_ | does it correctlty re-project the object if you move the camera, then? |
20:35.36 | Gnarfoz | avr is fun for playing around |
20:35.42 | Gnarfoz | still haven't tried it out in a raid |
20:35.44 | arkanes_ | cause I can't imagine how it does that :\ |
20:35.52 | arkanes_ | downloads code. |
20:36.18 | NeoTron | so does that avr thing somehow keep the drawings in the righ spot if you move or what? |
20:36.20 | yoshimo | arkanes, if you dont move the camera into a wall or the ground it will do it |
20:36.32 | Hjalte | arkanes_: Yep, you can move around. In Ironforge, or anywhere else with an even floor and lots of space above, you can pretty much move around anyway you want. |
20:36.43 | NeoTron | Caleb|: DXE perhaps? |
20:36.43 | Hjalte | NeoTron: It does. |
20:36.47 | arkanes_ | that seems kinda bizarre |
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20:37.45 | Caleb| | never tried DXE |
20:37.57 | NeoTron | so it must be doing shit depending on your position, camera angle and direction and stuff |
20:38.25 | arkanes_ | oh I see |
20:38.27 | NeoTron | I will not compare BW/DBM/DXE accuracy but I must say I much prefer DXE configurability over BW |
20:38.29 | arkanes_ | it hooks mouse up/down |
20:38.34 | arkanes_ | and tracks the movement delta |
20:38.44 | NeoTron | ability to set specific sounds and specific screen flashshes to specific events primarily |
20:38.47 | arkanes_ | thats why it can detect normal movement but not camera collision |
20:39.12 | arkanes_ | it would mess up if you use the smart camera + movement, too, which I do |
20:40.04 | yoshimo | well, not everything is available in api ;) |
20:40.11 | arkanes_ | right, thats the problem with it :p |
20:40.19 | arkanes_ | overly ambitious! |
20:41.01 | arkanes_ | looks like it fiddles somewhat with the settable camera views to align itself |
20:41.22 | yoshimo | i think its a nice idea , and if its limited, its not so likely that blizz blocks it |
20:41.37 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r94 Castbars.lua: |
20:41.39 | Repo | Make the text appear centered even when no pushback is incurred. |
20:42.13 | arkanes_ | nobody has even talked about the real use-case, though |
20:42.33 | arkanes_ | 3-d online battlechess! |
20:42.37 | arkanes_ | in wow! |
20:42.56 | yoshimo | pong ;) |
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21:34.15 | Repo | *Added last 2 necrotic plague SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS ids as well as a note on why there are 8 spellids and why 4 of them are useless. :\ |
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22:17.00 | DWSR | ckknight: Is there a project "Aloft" still floating around in WA's repository system? |
22:17.15 | ckknight | probably |
22:17.17 | ckknight | I dunno |
22:18.53 | DWSR | Nothing shows up in the search, but that doesn't mean it's not there. Acapela (from WoWI) and myself are wondering if we can either takeover orget that repository dropped so that we can move the currently maintained version of Aloft over to WA. |
22:20.23 | nevcairiel | Aloft is ARR on WoWAce, any fork is not allowed |
22:21.03 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-4441/ |
22:21.07 | nevcairiel | and there it is ^ |
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22:24.10 | nevcairiel | the wowi version is a license violation too, fwiw |
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22:27.37 | DWSR | nevcairiel: It's being maintained at WoWI atm by a different author. Can I get the current maintainer to contact you in order to get the page moved or do I have to contact the author of the project according to WA? |
22:28.42 | nevcairiel | the original author will have to agree to someone else maintaining it |
22:28.49 | nevcairiel | for all i know the wowi guy never had permission |
22:29.23 | NivFreak | in the meantime |
22:29.25 | NivFreak | tidyplates! |
22:30.38 | DWSR | (The author at WoWI has the permission of the previous author to take over the project, etc. etc. I'm not trying to pull a fast one or anything. :P) |
22:30.41 | olafski | can anyone tell me what the check marks in front of the set names in Outfitter mean? :s |
22:31.03 | olafski | been wondering that for ages |
22:31.26 | DWSR | olafski: That you have that outfit currently equipped. |
22:32.29 | olafski | but I can have a checkmark in front of all 3 outfits.. tank, cat and resto |
22:32.36 | olafski | doesn't seem like I have all 3 of them equipped |
22:32.44 | nevcairiel | If the WoWI guy had permission, he would've used the WoWAce project, imho |
22:33.03 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I've been talking to him, said that he likes WoWI better *shrug*. |
22:33.28 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I'm reading and he said that the project was marked abandoned when he started maintaining it at WoWI. |
22:33.51 | nevcairiel | yes it is, but that doesnt magically unlock the license =) |
22:34.15 | DWSR | I'll talk to him about it and try to get it sorted out. It's pretty clear that the original author is not around any longer, though. |
22:34.20 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v456-19-g1798a58 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits] |
22:34.21 | DWSR | nevcairiel: No, that's true. |
22:34.21 | Repo | 1798a58: Re-add Yogg Saron to Ulduar encounters |
22:34.22 | Repo | fddde88: Lich King: Add 25h Shambling Horror Enrage spellid |
22:34.23 | Repo | a1f0d5c: Lich King: Add Shadow Trap warnings |
22:34.24 | Repo | a2e7a2d: Putricide: Add 25h Mutated Plague spellid |
22:34.35 | nevcairiel | Again, even if the author died, that doesnt put his code in public domain |
22:34.49 | DWSR | nevcairiel: By definition, isn't his code in the public domain? :P |
22:35.59 | DWSR | I've never thought of trying to reserve rights for projects that are distributed as source code to be rather...silly. |
22:36.05 | DWSR | s/never/always/ |
22:36.48 | nevcairiel | eh, its your code, just because its in readable form doesnt mean its free to take |
22:36.51 | DWSR | grammar fail, but whatever. |
22:37.27 | DWSR | can I report the project and state my intentions and take the project over? |
22:37.27 | DWSR | (As the page says to do)? |
22:38.02 | DWSR | (and of course assuming all goes well). |
22:38.34 | nevcairiel | You'll hear the same, unless you get the original authors permission |
22:38.41 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
22:38.42 | Fisker | HEY |
22:38.53 | Fisker | *shifty eyes and so forth* |
22:39.33 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Paraphrasing the procedure page for this sort of thing and assuming that the author is incommunicado, can I take it over or no? |
22:39.56 | DWSR | Is there any possibility at all, or am I boned because it's AAR? |
22:39.58 | DWSR | ARR* |
22:40.35 | nevcairiel | Without the explicit permission you can't just take over a ARR addon |
22:41.23 | DWSR | Got IP address logs for this guy's login? :P |
22:41.33 | nevcairiel | if intended by the author or not, we have to stick to the rules |
22:42.33 | DWSR | Yeah, I understand that and I'm not trying to make your life difficult. Just trying to understand if there was some way that you could force the issue since the project was hosted on WA. |
22:42.38 | nevcairiel | for some reason i dont have any details on his account |
22:42.53 | nevcairiel | looks like it wasnt active at all on the new page |
22:44.10 | nevcairiel | anyway, the code is so damn old |
22:44.18 | nevcairiel | just be inspired by the idea and build a new one |
22:45.41 | Wobin | tidyplates is pretty awesome |
22:45.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah that aloftbeta on wowi is trash too from what ive seen, you should just start from scratch |
22:45.44 | Wobin | as is threatplates |
22:46.45 | Arrowmaster | i do recall seeing the aloft author make either a forum post or a comment on wowi giving permission for others to continue it |
22:47.36 | Arrowmaster | does support starting from scratch but still calling it Aloft just to fuck with the AloftBeta author |
22:48.13 | Arrowmaster | if theres no major functionality loss |
22:49.38 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Can you run a search for me? I'm getting 2k IRC latency and really can't load any webpages. |
22:50.09 | Arrowmaster | dont remember where it was |
22:50.27 | Arrowmaster | for all i know it could have been on the official forums |
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22:59.00 | Wobin | damn you tekkub |
22:59.59 | DWSR | nevcairiel: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=245289#post245289 |
23:00.19 | DWSR | Is that explicit enough? |
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23:03.20 | DWSR | Or do I need something as explicit as "I formally give you permission to maintain the project known as Aloft (located http://here) ...." |
23:04.19 | Shadowed | Last I looked, Aloft is being maintained by acapela |
23:04.27 | DWSR | Shadowed: Yes, it is. |
23:04.59 | DWSR | To paraphrase the scrollback, he and I were looking to move back to the WA VCS, but can't since Aloft is marked as ARR on Curse. |
23:06.14 | DWSR | Since Acapela is maintaining the project on WoWI, nevcairiel told me that we couldn't resolve the situation without explicit permission from the author. I've located that post, in which Roartindon (the previous author) gives his blessing to acapela, but I don't know if that's explicit enough, hence the question |
23:06.50 | Wobin | PS |
23:06.55 | Shadowed | second |
23:06.56 | Wobin | Maths is FUN: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/S4atK761gVI/AAAAAAAALJQ/4o-Nli1rMqs/s1600-h/spiral.jpg |
23:07.23 | DWSR | I know I'm probably being a huge PITA, but I'm just trying to be above board. |
23:07.34 | DWSR | Wobin: Bookmarked. That is win. |
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23:08.09 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: To be fair, nameplates haven't really changed much in code. It's the same huge hacks to use as they always were :P |
23:09.23 | Megalon | Wobin: civil engineering too http://woshrug.free.fr/fun/archive/engineering.jpg |
23:09.50 | DWSR | So anyway, I was just wondering if that forum post was explicit enough to allow acapela and myself to take over the old project. |
23:10.08 | Shadowed | Hang on a minute DWSR. |
23:10.13 | Wobin | Megalon, that certainly was built by a civil engineer... |
23:10.18 | Wobin | and not Nature =P |
23:10.40 | Megalon | yea, a very civil engineer :p |
23:10.41 | DWSR | Ok. If I'm unresponsive, it's because this shitty train internet is being intermittent. Apparently there's issues with the satellites. |
23:10.48 | DWSR | The internet: It's a series of waves. |
23:11.47 | Megalon | no |
23:11.51 | Megalon | a series of tubes! |
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23:11.53 | quiescens | waves |
23:11.54 | quiescens | ? |
23:12.07 | DWSR | Megalon: I'm on satellite/wireless internet atm. |
23:12.09 | DWSR | It's a series of waves. |
23:14.21 | Megalon | nooooooooooooooooooo |
23:14.22 | Shadowed | DWSR: Should be a PM somewhere giving Acapela permission, but it's been lost in the mountain of PMs that is Cairenn's inbox |
23:14.29 | Megalon | the tube get tunnel over waves! |
23:18.03 | Megalon | that sentence lacks some letters |
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23:25.02 | DWSR | Back |
23:29.55 | DWSR | Shadowed: Jury still out? |
23:30.13 | Shadowed | [15:14:16] <Shadowed> DWSR: Should be a PM somewhere giving Acapela permission, but it's been lost in the mountain of PMs that is Cairenn's inbox |
23:30.22 | DWSR | rofl |
23:30.27 | Cairenn | ^^ |
23:30.34 | Shadowed | But yes, in all likelyhood Acapela has permission to takeover Aloft |
23:30.44 | DWSR | The irony of the situation kills me. |
23:31.19 | Cairenn | no "in all likelihood" - we wouldn't have transferred ownership to Acapela without said permission |
23:31.40 | Shadowed | what she said ^ |
23:31.47 | DWSR | XD |
23:32.40 | DWSR | I love this channel. |
23:32.47 | DWSR | Anyway, that's good news. |
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23:34.35 | DWSR | Alright, so can you transfer the project to acapela and myself or should I forward this PM from acapela to Cairenn and hope she doesn't lose this one too? ;) |
23:34.45 | Cairenn | >< |
23:35.14 | Cairenn | forward me the PM |
23:35.22 | DWSR | Sec. |
23:35.24 | Cairenn | (if it has to do with the project on WoWI) |
23:35.47 | Fisker | suck on my chocolate salty balls Shadowed |
23:36.25 | DWSR | Cairenn: Well, we're moving the repo over to WA's Git. |
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23:36.47 | DWSR | But acapela was all leary because of the earlier problems he'd had getting commit access, so I told him I'd sort it all out. |
23:36.57 | DWSR | Since I've offered to help him with it. |
23:37.30 | Cairenn | if it doesn't impact the mod on WoWI, it's really not anything I need to be dealing with |
23:38.21 | Cairenn | and as far as I know, the only thing on WoWI is the "release" version, so .... not my problem :) |
23:38.46 | DWSR | Cairenn: Yeah, but I figure you can at least vouch for the authenticity of the PM so I can actually get the repo dropped/control on WA. |
23:38.59 | DWSR | Like I said, just trying to be above board on everything |
23:39.04 | Cairenn | nod |
23:39.17 | DWSR | shake. |
23:39.19 | DWSR | and bounce. |
23:42.17 | DWSR | That's a copy of the PM. |
23:42.30 | Cairenn | sent to me where? |
23:42.50 | Cairenn | nm, got it |
23:42.53 | DWSR | you wowi inbox, I also pastebinned it and sent a copy to Shadowed. |
23:42.58 | DWSR | your* |
23:43.07 | Cairenn | where were the original PMs exchanged? on WoWI, or elsewhere? |
23:43.17 | Cairenn | nm |
23:43.23 | Cairenn | reading through, it's obvious |
23:43.35 | DWSR | :P |
23:43.44 | DWSR | I can forward you the whole thread if you'd like. |
23:43.50 | Cairenn | it's fine |
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23:44.17 | DWSR | Cairenn: Hockey on tonight, btw? |
23:44.44 | Cairenn | yes |
23:44.54 | DWSR | canada vs who? |
23:44.59 | Cairenn | Sweden |
23:45.49 | DWSR | pft, we win |
23:46.10 | DWSR | (I hope) |
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23:46.55 | Cairenn | wanders back off to her usual haunts |
23:47.45 | DWSR | huggles Cairebear |
23:47.51 | Cairenn | :) |
23:50.09 | DWSR | anyway, Shadowed: WTB project control plox. |
23:50.25 | Shadowed | I'm not a wowace admin :p |
23:50.34 | DWSR | Oh, yeah. |
23:50.36 | DWSR | damnit. |
23:50.42 | DWSR | I get everyone so confused |
23:50.46 | DWSR | nevcairiel |
23:51.01 | DWSR | nevcairiel: WTB project control for Aloft please. |
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