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| 00:14.26 | Mikk | well erm there's already lights in the GPU engine |
| 00:14.33 | Mikk | it's just ... raytracing is something else >.< |
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| 00:27.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7351 / (2 files in 2 directories): A real hack to silence options. Gotta love hacks. |
| 00:28.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7352 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Reset the silenced option reset timer when necessary. |
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| 00:48.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7355 / (9 files in 2 directories): Remove an unused locale string. |
| 00:52.37 | Repo | 10mysales: 03Cyprias * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): First commit. |
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| 01:07.27 | Repo | ec802a7: add "pedantic"-mode where everybody who misses a buff gets a whisper |
| 01:07.28 | Repo | 0b3d46d: cleanup flask and elixir-check |
| 01:07.30 | Repo | 9133f61: do not skip visible units, do it the other way round |
| 01:07.31 | Repo | 1d6ebef: display out of range units separatly |
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| 02:38.29 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r309 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Added Anti-Magic Shell to DK cooldowns. |
| 03:07.41 | Aens|Superiority | is bartender4 hiding the vehicle bar for anyone else? |
| 03:07.46 | Aens|Superiority | current release versin |
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| 03:32.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7356 / (38 files in 4 directories): Cleanup old modules to properly use :Engage. |
| 03:37.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7357 / (7 files in 4 directories): Fix use of UnitHealth in old modules. |
| 03:39.54 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7358 Ulduar/Freya.lua: fix some whitespace |
| 03:43.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7359 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua: Ulduar/Leviathan: bugfix |
| 03:46.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7360 Ulduar/IronCouncil.lua: |
| 03:46.25 | Repo | Ulduar/IronCouncil: Just because it's late doesn't mean you should skip reviewing those large commits, or it bites you in the ass. |
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| 03:48.55 | Groktar | 19:48:22> The Lich King Fury of Frostmourne hit You 17903 Shadow. (300000 Resisted) (730694 Overkill) |
| 03:49.38 | Funkeh` | I could do better |
| 03:57.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7361 Citadel/Putricide.lua: |
| 03:57.47 | Repo | Citadel/Putricide: Prevent the "phase soon" message from appearing after the phase has changed. |
| 03:58.07 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Stanzilla 042.3.30300.3 * r334 : Tagging as 2.3.30300.3 |
| 04:01.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7362 / (4 files in 4 directories): Clarify the 'Remove' click action to be temporary. |
| 04:01.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7363 Plugins (2 files in 2 directories): Clarify the 'Disable' click action. |
| 04:02.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7364 Plugins/Bars.lua: |
| 04:02.49 | Repo | Make report the default left action and emphasize the default right click action. |
| 04:28.55 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v456-12-g3afb396 / (8 files in 5 directories): [+8 commits] (4 truncated) |
| 04:28.57 | Repo | 3afb396: Sindragosa: Add Frost Bomb Hit timer. It's an estimation because the distance of |
| 04:28.58 | Repo | 83ca518: Sindragosa: Use tracing to start encounter. It will never fail to start. |
| 04:29.00 | Repo | a50b8c7: Sindragosa: Change phrase partial for engage trigger |
| 04:29.01 | Repo | 4506f69: Marrowgar: Added Boned Achievement timer |
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| 04:34.42 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7365 / (2 files in 2 directories): deDE update. |
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| 04:47.52 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mysales/. MySales. Cyprias (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 05:10.27 | Cyprias | yay |
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| 05:31.20 | Torhal | Foof |
| 05:42.45 | Groktar | devours Torhal's soul |
| 05:45.27 | Torhal | Groktar: Sorry, that wasn't mine. I was making one for Fisker. |
| 05:55.58 | Primer | oh boy...now quartz's settings got reset |
| 05:56.13 | Primer | guess I should read the changelog |
| 05:58.07 | Primer | guess it's time to re-configure it |
| 06:00.17 | Primer | argh, I can't move the damn interface config thing out of the way so I can configure quartz! |
| 06:02.28 | Primer | so frustrating |
| 06:02.40 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon for moving frames? |
| 06:04.12 | Primer | guess MoveAnything is updated in cc |
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| 06:11.32 | Primer | ok, moveanything sucks. Can anyone recommend an addon that will allow me to move any frame, but NOT use a menu to do it? Just be able to grab a frame while it's up and move it? |
| 06:16.51 | Primer | ahhh there we go |
| 06:21.22 | Primer | seems there's no way to test buff/debuff bars in the new quartz |
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| 06:28.38 | Arrowmaster | Primer: are you trying to move the interface options frame? if so just get betterblizzoptions |
| 06:29.29 | Primer | I got that |
| 06:49.06 | Gagorian | Cyprias: You should check your code, you're leaking a lot of globals |
| 06:51.40 | Gagorian | Cyprias: http://paste.wowace.com/1731/ |
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| 06:57.43 | Gagorian | Cyprias: Also http://paste.wowace.com/1732/ and http://paste.wowace.com/1734/ |
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| 07:16.30 | WobWork | Gagorian: ... global leakage =( |
| 07:18.55 | Cyprias | I thought putting |
| 07:18.55 | Cyprias | MS = {} |
| 07:18.55 | Cyprias | setfenv(1, MS) |
| 07:18.55 | Cyprias | would then put everything under it inside the MS table. because when I call /run print(ShowWindow) it prints a nil, whereas when I /run print(MS.ShowWindow) it prints a function number. |
| 07:19.26 | Cyprias | am I mistaken? |
| 07:20.21 | Torhal | http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/setfenv |
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| 08:03.32 | Torhal | It's done. |
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| 08:53.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7366 Plugins/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE wording changes. |
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| 09:15.55 | orionshock | are there any problems to calling self:Hide() inside the OnHide Script handler for a frame? |
| 09:17.43 | Shefki | orionshock: Hmm no |
| 09:17.56 | Shefki | OnHide is only called when the frame is actually hidden. |
| 09:18.33 | orionshock | thx |
| 09:18.53 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.38 | nevcairiel | orionshock: whats the point of that, anyway? its already hidden when calling OnHide :d |
| 09:19.59 | orionshock | sanity and flow.. but true, no point |
| 09:25.53 | sb|work | morning |
| 09:27.51 | haste | orionshock: I would call calling :Hide in OnHide insanity! |
| 09:28.54 | orionshock | ... is it me or did everyone else take a moment to actually figure out what that meant? |
| 09:30.46 | haste | it reflects the insanity! |
| 09:33.25 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 09:33.35 | Fisker | boy do i hate haste |
| 09:35.10 | sb|work | so giev sc2 key Fisker |
| 09:35.35 | Fisker | no |
| 09:36.09 | asmodai | That PTR that might be coming, that is not for 3.3.x's Ruby Sanctum I take it? |
| 09:37.18 | Fisker | who knows? |
| 09:37.39 | sb|work | its pally nerfs! |
| 09:39.29 | haste | and disc/holy priest changes! |
| 09:39.44 | haste | and mages will get a new icon |
| 09:40.05 | sb|work | haste: i dont want to have disc changes! :( |
| 09:40.42 | sb|work | well they could add crit. shields :p (so PW: S scaling with crit that is) |
| 09:41.14 | haste | yes, that wouldn't be sick at all :p |
| 09:41.44 | haste | usually idling at 50% crit in 10-mans |
| 09:42.21 | sb|work | see... :p |
| 09:43.00 | haste | thing is really that priests haven't gotten any changes since the spirit nerf so to say :p |
| 09:43.09 | haste | but hey |
| 09:43.22 | haste | maybe they'll fix the set-bonuses |
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| 09:43.42 | haste | 'cause right now my trinket outheals 2-set by far :V |
| 09:43.43 | sb|work | well but thats the main disc issue, at some point scaling/gear choice just sucks (you got 800 haste, 40% crit unbuffed) - so you need sp+int, but you cant just replace some haste/crit with sp/int because they are 'static' stats |
| 09:44.13 | sb|work | but sp/int is all you need at that point, more crit/haste would be useless :/ |
| 09:44.23 | kandarz | Would SecureStateHandlers be the easiest way to hide/show the BonusActionBarFrame when a modifier (ctrl, shift, alt) is pressed? |
| 09:44.23 | haste | I'm at 3500 or so sp atm |
| 09:44.33 | sb|work | unbuffed? |
| 09:44.35 | sb|work | or selfbuffed? |
| 09:44.36 | haste | and close to 30k mana unbuffed |
| 09:44.40 | haste | with inner fire ofc |
| 09:44.46 | orionshock | kandarz, required |
| 09:44.47 | sb|work | *checking* |
| 09:44.52 | haste | and 20% haste |
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| 09:45.09 | sb|work | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=khaz'goroth&n=Smb haha... fail :/ |
| 09:45.16 | orionshock | if your only 20% haste then who's the other 80% ? |
| 09:45.16 | haste | and I think it was ~40% crit |
| 09:45.26 | haste | orionshock: my dopperganger |
| 09:46.31 | sb|work | haste: but my stats are just like yours :p |
| 09:46.54 | sb|work | but armory doesnt show my chest |
| 09:47.00 | haste | fail :D |
| 09:47.08 | haste | I didn't check tbh |
| 09:47.12 | sb|work | yes :p i got the 264 last night |
| 09:47.21 | sb|work | but no time to gem+enchant before going to sleep |
| 09:47.21 | haste | from badges? |
| 09:47.28 | sb|work | no, t10 |
| 09:47.28 | sb|work | shadow |
| 09:47.50 | haste | I haven't really cared to pick up any tier gear |
| 09:48.03 | sb|work | *shrug* shadow is fine |
| 09:48.04 | haste | I have the hol shoulders in my bank and head |
| 09:48.12 | sb|work | shadow head + shoulders + chest |
| 09:48.14 | haste | since they're about the same as what I currently use |
| 09:48.27 | haste | but the set-bonus makes me cry |
| 09:48.30 | sb|work | yes :p |
| 09:48.41 | sb|work | thats why i dont want them, its not only set bonus |
| 09:48.43 | haste | it does line.... 10k healing |
| 09:48.56 | sb|work | its also the shitload of useless spirit |
| 09:49.05 | haste | but I'm planning on eftching the shadow tier |
| 09:49.17 | haste | and just remove holy as off-spec |
| 09:49.32 | haste | only reason I have it is because people suck at making 10-am groups |
| 09:49.55 | sb|work | holy is nice for dreamwalker, just stop thinking + spam FH+GH, sucks as disc :) |
| 09:50.07 | sb|work | hmmm why? |
| 09:50.14 | sb|work | disc is >> holy, isnt it? :p |
| 09:50.29 | haste | not when the other healer is a paladin |
| 09:50.59 | haste | fester with disc+pala healer or blood queen with that setup is meh |
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| 09:57.07 | Fisker | haste |
| 09:57.14 | haste | Fisker |
| 10:00.22 | sb|work | sc2 |
| 10:06.47 | Fisker | haste |
| 10:06.54 | Fisker | can i hate you? |
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| 10:07.25 | LebQzz | anyone know by heart what they called the reair man frame |
| 10:08.12 | haste | Fisker: let purl decide! |
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| 10:12.55 | Elkano | LebQzz -> http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/DurabilityFrame.xml |
| 10:13.32 | Elkano | ~8ball can Fisker hate haste |
| 10:13.33 | purl | Unsure. |
| 10:14.03 | Elkano | haste, that didn't solve anything :( |
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| 10:27.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7367 Plugins/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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| 10:37.59 | kandarz | Bah, Secure Handlers is confusing me, all I want it to be able to hide the bonus action bar when I hit control, but so far I can't figure out how to monitor for when the button state changes |
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| 10:40.39 | profalbert | kandarz: "[modifier:Ctrl]"? |
| 10:41.27 | evl | show-state |
| 10:41.37 | kandarz | profalbert: Yes, I've gotten that bit, but I'm not sure what to register using RegisterStateDriver(______, ______, "[mod:ctrl]") |
| 10:41.48 | profalbert | RegisterStateDriver(frame, "visibility", ["modifier:Ctrl"]) |
| 10:41.54 | nevcairiel | !api RegisterStateDriver |
| 10:41.54 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'RegisterStateDriver'. |
| 10:42.01 | nevcairiel | buuh, not documented |
| 10:42.22 | profalbert | http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureStateDriver |
| 10:42.36 | evl | Hehe, I get a chrome phishing warning when accessing wowwiki :D |
| 10:42.41 | evl | ads ftw! |
| 10:42.50 | nevcairiel | hm i dont |
| 10:42.54 | nevcairiel | on chrome as well |
| 10:43.59 | kandarz | "(Note that the stateid âvisibilityâ is reserved for internal use to show and hide the frame)" - iriel's Secure Handler documentation |
| 10:44.40 | profalbert | kandarz: It is used by derived templates (such es unitframetemplate) |
| 10:45.00 | sb|work | yay |
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| 10:45.38 | sb|work | it peeps finally removed proxy (and also firewall restrictions, so i can connect to any port now, not only 80+443 via proxy :/) |
| 10:46.16 | profalbert | if you derive the frame from SecureHandlerStateTemplate, you shouldn't run into troubles (at least I don't) |
| 10:46.16 | Fisker | hoho |
| 10:46.16 | Fisker | i'm a jerk sb|work |
| 10:46.23 | Fisker | gateway -> 50% higher training speed -> zealot ruuuuuuush |
| 10:46.27 | nevcairiel | You can use the visibility driver on any frame that you need to condtiionally show/hide |
| 10:47.48 | profalbert | on unitframes the statedriver may be overridden by internal stuff (derived from SecureUnitButtonTemplate) |
| 10:48.15 | nevcairiel | blizzards own frames barely use the secure stuff |
| 10:48.30 | kandarz | I'm assuming I'm missing something, RegisterStateDriver(BonusActionBarFrame, "visibility", "[mod:ctrl]") by itself doesn't work |
| 10:48.47 | nevcairiel | RegisterStateDriver(BonusActionBarFrame, "visibility", "[mod:ctrl]hide;show") |
| 10:49.22 | kandarz | insanely simple, thank you all |
| 10:51.48 | haste | Elkano: just means he has to try himself! |
| 10:52.35 | Shefki | profalbert: It still works on unit frames, you just have to jump through some extra hoops. |
| 10:53.28 | profalbert | Shefki: I just put it into a parent "SecureHandlerStateTemplate"-frame and put the statedriver there |
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| 10:57.55 | Fisker | lets see if i can yout00b to 1080p this time |
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| 11:00.06 | Torhal | Fisker: One thousand liters. |
| 11:00.51 | Fisker | one thousand liters of p? |
| 11:01.41 | Torhal | You said 1080 |
| 11:01.45 | Torhal | I rounded. |
| 11:06.00 | Fisker | ffffffffuuuuuuuuu |
| 11:08.53 | kandarz | At the time of PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, BonusActionBarFrame doesn't exist, any ideas for a better event? |
| 11:10.37 | nevcairiel | thats impossible, the BAB is created right away |
| 11:15.06 | Repo | 10mis-information: 03Anyia3 * r43 MisInformation.lua: |
| 11:15.08 | Repo | * Further fixes to cater to the new 4-sec misdirection mechanics. |
| 11:15.24 | Repo | 10mis-information: 03Anyia3 043.3.2 * r44 : Tagging as 3.3.2 |
| 11:22.48 | kandarz | what is the slash command to turn on taint logging? |
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| 11:23.14 | evl | kandarz: /console taintLog 2 |
| 11:23.15 | evl | and reload |
| 11:24.46 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41inehW9qbw |
| 11:25.47 | Fisker | i wish they would give you like an indication on when they expect to have shit fully processed |
| 11:27.14 | evl | looks great |
| 11:27.21 | evl | but the audio! |
| 11:27.23 | evl | so good |
| 11:27.44 | olafski | fisker: it's still processing the higher bitrates or something? |
| 11:27.55 | kandarz | I uploaded a 1080p video that was 7mb as MPEG4 AVC, youtube reencoded it to be 18mb and looked shitty |
| 11:28.07 | olafski | but maybe it required less processing power to play? =) |
| 11:28.19 | haste | sound on youtube generally don't get more than 180kbs |
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| 11:28.52 | haste | and youtube likes x264 and flv as input :p |
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| 11:31.14 | kandarz | I encoded at x264 |
| 11:33.00 | kandarz | http://wow.kandarz.com/videos/ |
| 11:33.42 | haste | not going to checn :p |
| 11:33.50 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r310 modules (3 files in 1 directory): Some cleanup in readycheck. |
| 11:36.08 | olafski | strangely enough all those sc2 vids make me think "oh wow, just like starcraft but with better graphics" |
| 11:36.34 | haste | semms like they hit the nail then |
| 11:36.50 | olafski | I'd expect a new game that is released like 10 years later to bring something new |
| 11:36.53 | olafski | could be me though :P |
| 11:37.07 | Torhal | 12 years |
| 11:37.38 | haste | it does add new units and so on |
| 11:38.53 | olafski | meh :< |
| 11:39.05 | olafski | guess I'm just not excited about this as starcraft didn't really "do it" for me either |
| 11:39.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r7368 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: add unchained bar, adjust grip timer |
| 11:39.51 | kandarz | So, is it normal to get a 80k line taint log in 2 minutes? |
| 11:40.04 | nevcairiel | thats short |
| 11:40.51 | olafski | that said though.. fisker, is that video going to show up in higher quality too or should I watch it in the blurry fashion it appears in now? |
| 11:42.13 | Fisker | it is |
| 11:42.21 | Fisker | but it takes them a few hours to l2p or something |
| 11:42.27 | Fisker | kandarz what do you use to encode with? |
| 11:42.38 | Fisker | I use windows movie maker, no seriously :( |
| 11:42.40 | kandarz | It's already looking better than it was when I first loaded it |
| 11:42.53 | kandarz | Avidemux |
| 11:42.54 | nevcairiel | just use the standalone x264 encoder |
| 11:43.04 | kandarz | is what I used for the Lootcouncil video |
| 11:43.05 | nevcairiel | and ffmpeg for the sound |
| 11:43.52 | Fisker | I almost feel bad for those who can play just a bit though |
| 11:44.26 | Fisker | and aren't in the beta that is |
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| 11:46.04 | olafski | oh yeah it is starting to look better |
| 11:46.19 | olafski | that's pretty neat then, that they at least put something up rather quickly |
| 11:47.09 | Fisker | so give me a runthrough and so forth kandarz |
| 11:47.28 | kandarz | In Avidemux? |
| 11:47.34 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r311 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: |
| 11:47.35 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:47.36 | Repo | Test to see how it looks with red textures behind the people who are not ready. Also have green ones behind the guys who are ready at the moment, but might be too much. |
| 11:47.36 | olafski | can't you just upload the uncompressed video to youtoob and have them fix it? ;) |
| 11:48.09 | Fisker | maybe if i had 1Gbps upload |
| 11:48.15 | olafski | how big is it? |
| 11:48.18 | Fisker | 16GB |
| 11:48.32 | olafski | usually when I upload something it seems limited on the other side :/ |
| 11:48.32 | kandarz | What did you use to screen capture? Fraps? |
| 11:48.37 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 11:48.39 | Fisker | fraps |
| 11:48.49 | olafski | I wonder if youtube would even accept a 16GB video |
| 11:48.55 | kandarz | So you have 4 files 4GB each? |
| 11:49.08 | kandarz | or have you already combined them some how |
| 11:49.15 | Fisker | 4GB each |
| 11:49.39 | kandarz | Okay, you'll want to open the first segment, then append the following 3 in order |
| 11:49.45 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:49.49 | Fisker | i can figure that out :D |
| 11:50.04 | Fisker | was more thinking about encoding options and such |
| 11:50.09 | kandarz | I used MPEG-4 AVC x264 |
| 11:50.24 | Fisker | no specific options? |
| 11:50.37 | kandarz | getting there |
| 11:50.45 | kandarz | and for sound, either lame or faac |
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| 11:51.46 | kandarz | two-pass is always better, but you might have to encode more than once to get a decent filesize/quality ratio |
| 11:53.17 | kandarz | When I encoded, I used mostly default setting, to be honest, I don't know all that much about video codecs, I spent hours trying to figure out that I had to use MP4Box to shift the hinting bits to the front for progressive download |
| 11:55.53 | kandarz | For something like SC2 where there's not a lot of movement, you'll get a decent video size for a highish bit-rate |
| 11:56.06 | kandarz | But in the end, youtube will change it all |
| 11:56.57 | Fisker | so after setting it up i use "add to joblist" or? |
| 11:58.24 | kandarz | you can just hit the first disk icon, "Save Video" |
| 11:58.49 | yoshimo | kandarz i have seen youtube videos with very high quality and some with poor quality, both flagges as 1080p hd |
| 11:59.02 | kandarz | or you can save the project, or add to job list to queue it for later |
| 11:59.37 | kandarz | yoshimo: It partly has to do with the encode, but I'll show you how youtube made my video look like crap |
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| 12:00.34 | kandarz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rM47oBhzTQ |
| 12:00.44 | kandarz | http://wow.kandarz.com/videos/ |
| 12:00.56 | kandarz | The personal website has the file I uploaded to youtube |
| 12:01.23 | kandarz | Make sure you set youtube to 1080p |
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| 12:01.40 | Fisker | looks like some kind of downscaling or something like that |
| 12:01.44 | Fisker | or rather upscaling i guess? |
| 12:01.52 | Fisker | what resolution did you make the video in? |
| 12:02.31 | nevcairiel | looks like it was downscaled, and then the 1080p was re-upscaled from that |
| 12:03.33 | nevcairiel | the 1080p even looks slightly worse then the 720 |
| 12:04.01 | kandarz | My wow resolution is 1920x1148 (windowed maximized), Then I cropped it to 1920x1080 |
| 12:04.17 | Fisker | hmm |
| 12:04.20 | nevcairiel | wtf is that for a resolution |
| 12:04.28 | nevcairiel | showing a tasbar on a 1200 screen? |
| 12:04.31 | nevcairiel | *taskbar |
| 12:04.32 | Fisker | 52 pixels for borders and taskbar |
| 12:04.34 | kandarz | Windowed mode |
| 12:04.35 | kandarz | yes |
| 12:04.41 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Nvidia said that they don't expect Fermi-based cards to be fully available until something like May this year |
| 12:04.44 | Fisker | you should just run windowed maximized imo |
| 12:04.50 | Fisker | but they'll be out in march asmodai |
| 12:04.57 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i didnt want to buy one right away anyway |
| 12:05.07 | Fisker | i'm getting one right away |
| 12:05.08 | kandarz | I like being able to see my task bar |
| 12:05.19 | nevcairiel | its not going to get me a performance boost in wow, anyway |
| 12:05.24 | nevcairiel | and thats about all i play, if even |
| 12:05.36 | asmodai | :| |
| 12:05.59 | Fisker | but i don't get why my other SC2 video didn't get 1080p'd |
| 12:06.01 | nevcairiel | my gtx260 is going to do for 2 years or so |
| 12:06.19 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSQrU8oZCY <-only did 720p |
| 12:06.20 | nevcairiel | maybe nvidias next gen card will have solved their production issues, too |
| 12:07.17 | Fisker | what does a second pass do on video encoding anyway? |
| 12:07.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I'm in the uncomfortable position that my 8800 is not fully adequate in some ways anymore... :( |
| 12:07.38 | Fisker | Just learn from the previous encode to reduce or up bitrate where nessecary? |
| 12:07.40 | nevcairiel | i had a 8800 until three month ago :d |
| 12:08.49 | nevcairiel | Fisker: its not doing a real "encode" in the first pass, it just analyzes the video, detects high-movement or high-detail scenes, and writes down information about suggested bit rates |
| 12:08.55 | Yivry | ive got doble gtx275 since august now, before that a 6700XL |
| 12:09.10 | Yivry | s/doble/double/ |
| 12:09.14 | nevcairiel | sli cards are such a waste, very few games can really use that |
| 12:09.31 | nevcairiel | unless you need like 4 monitors attached, of course :P |
| 12:09.51 | Yivry | at time of buying, it had better performance than gtx295, while being cheaper |
| 12:09.53 | kandarz | Fisker: basically, it maps out where I frames should be (full frames) so it can better create the P and B frames |
| 12:10.02 | kandarz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_compression_picture_types |
| 12:10.33 | Fisker | i guess we'll see how it turns out :P |
| 12:10.45 | asmodai | Fisker: heh, don't fuck with the Dark Templar I see |
| 12:10.56 | nevcairiel | 2-pass will usually give you lower bitrates for the same quality, or high quality at same size |
| 12:11.31 | kandarz | ^^ that, what I said in less technical speak |
| 12:13.37 | Fisker | looks pretty nice actually |
| 12:13.51 | Fisker | 5 minutes 1080p weighs in at around 100MB |
| 12:14.07 | Fisker | brightness seems lower than it should be though |
| 12:14.13 | Fisker | but that's probably a setting i can adjust |
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| 12:15.41 | asmodai | Fisker: Your latest video for me doesn't do fmt=18 or hd=1, the one before that did at least 720p |
| 12:16.08 | asmodai | Looks like 360p only |
| 12:16.22 | asmodai | The other one did 360p/480p/720p |
| 12:16.48 | Fisker | i know |
| 12:16.51 | Fisker | it's processing |
| 12:17.08 | nevcairiel | Youtube is so weird |
| 12:17.12 | Fisker | as i said before it's pretty annoying that they can't atleast put out an ETA on the processing :P |
| 12:17.14 | nevcairiel | we should start our own video page |
| 12:17.29 | Fisker | kandarz how can i adjust brightness on the movie? |
| 12:17.41 | asmodai | Fisker: Oh, you upload and it puts a low version up in the mean time while it processes for the rest? |
| 12:17.49 | asmodai | <-- never uploaded to JooTjoob |
| 12:17.49 | kandarz | Fisker: the filter settings |
| 12:17.50 | Fisker | yep |
| 12:18.44 | kandarz | Fisker: Filters -> Colors -> Contrast |
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| 12:24.46 | asmodai | Fisker: done processing |
| 12:24.52 | asmodai | Fisker: has 1080p now |
| 12:25.53 | asmodai | so &hd=1 gives 720p - what's the magical incantation for 1080p? |
| 12:26.08 | nevcairiel | looks good, too |
| 12:26.28 | sb|work | asmodai: try &fmt=37 |
| 12:26.51 | asmodai | sb|work: lovely arbitrary number >_< |
| 12:26.58 | asmodai | sb|work: I seriously don't understand their scheme |
| 12:28.50 | asmodai | Speaking of SC2, did they cast in stone the release date now or is it still flexible? |
| 12:29.05 | nevcairiel | i didnt see an official announcement yet |
| 12:29.18 | yoshimo | i gues like wowpatches "when its done" |
| 12:29.59 | nevcairiel | they usually do give some advanced warning, but not yet |
| 12:30.22 | nevcairiel | Bibi: while i like the distiction between real blue threads and user posted threads in the tracker .. do they really have to be bold? it looks weird :( |
| 12:30.28 | yoshimo | beta testing has begun a few hours ago ;) |
| 12:30.51 | Bibi | nevcairiel : oh I see, fat is weird |
| 12:30.57 | Bibi | you're so fucking mean :( |
| 12:31.37 | Fisker | i like it actually |
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| 12:32.13 | asmodai | Fisker: Like what? |
| 12:32.52 | nevcairiel | At first i thought the distinction was like read and unread threads |
| 12:32.58 | nevcairiel | but then i figured, how would it know |
| 12:33.31 | nevcairiel | but the bold always reminds me of unread messages :P |
| 12:33.49 | Bibi | (technically, it could know that) |
| 12:34.03 | Bibi | (and I want to do it at some point) |
| 12:34.22 | nevcairiel | you could just use the css attributes for links, visisted and that |
| 12:34.26 | nevcairiel | -s |
| 12:34.33 | nevcairiel | cookies wouldnt work for me |
| 12:34.35 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 12:34.41 | Bibi | the blue tracker changes are just a funny coincidence |
| 12:34.52 | Bibi | the developer happened to wake up for the first time in a year |
| 12:34.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:34.58 | Bibi | and I got as much as possible from him |
| 12:35.09 | nevcairiel | make adys do that, too |
| 12:35.15 | Bibi | right now, the priority is to make sure that mmo-champion isnt the top result anymore for lolita love pics on google. |
| 12:35.20 | Bibi | (no, I'm not kidding) |
| 12:35.24 | Adys | hm? |
| 12:35.43 | nevcairiel | hey its the second on my google |
| 12:36.17 | asmodai | Adys: Hehe, probably not you :P |
| 12:36.26 | asmodai | Bibi: :| |
| 12:36.45 | asmodai | Bibi: That's one bizarre connection indeed |
| 12:36.53 | nevcairiel | especially being that high on the list |
| 12:36.57 | nevcairiel | someone google bombed you ;) |
| 12:36.59 | yoshimo | bibi, the lichking page doesnt show any loot, it looks empty to me http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=896 |
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| 12:37.24 | Bibi | nevcairiel : it's just SEO bots |
| 12:37.31 | Bibi | it's been going on for a while apparently |
| 12:37.40 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:37.44 | Bibi | only realized how bad it was recently, and spam became more important in the past few days |
| 12:38.49 | Bibi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.56 | Bibi | it was 9.8M a few days ago. :( |
| 12:39.13 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r312 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: Doh, just use a color, not a texture, for the background. |
| 12:39.17 | nevcairiel | so people bomb SEO tags in their user accounts? |
| 12:39.40 | nevcairiel | silly them |
| 12:39.48 | Bibi | yeah, pretty much |
| 12:40.34 | asmodai | wtf |
| 12:40.39 | asmodai | that's nuts |
| 12:41.22 | asmodai | And given MMOC is visited a lot, it's not always easy to see automated abuse come in, I reckon |
| 12:41.32 | nevcairiel | ~help |
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| 12:43.34 | Fisker | haha |
| 12:43.41 | Fisker | i used to be in guild with someone that did that |
| 12:44.30 | Fisker | If there was a topic in the open forum about something related to webhosting he would always mention the URL, even if he couldn't help :D |
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| 12:49.34 | asmodai | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9JK8lnzw6U&hd=1 <-- painful to watch |
| 12:51.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7369 Plugins/Bars.lua: Highlight the hovered bar if clickable bars is enabled. |
| 12:53.11 | olafski | fisker: seems your opponent in that video decided to leave pretty quickly :P |
| 12:54.51 | Fisker | what do you mean asmodai ? |
| 12:55.22 | Fisker | how did he get to upload 25 minutes again? :o |
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| 12:57.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
| 13:02.48 | Megalon | partner account |
| 13:03.54 | Fisker | fail |
| 13:07.23 | Megalon | don't be so envious |
| 13:07.35 | Megalon | it'll all be good some time |
| 13:08.19 | asmodai | Fisker: No idea. |
| 13:08.23 | asmodai | Fisker: But he's such a newbie :) |
| 13:09.29 | Fisker | Same |
| 13:11.44 | Fisker | Still a protoss player though |
| 13:11.47 | Fisker | Zerg is cool though |
| 13:11.51 | Fisker | I hate terran though ;_; |
| 13:12.01 | Fisker | Except for their insane amounts of detection power |
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| 13:25.45 | yoshimo | can you still build all 3 types of buildings if you use an archon to mindcontrol their builders? |
| 13:26.02 | Fisker | i don't think they can mc anymore |
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| 13:28.17 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r313 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add a Demote everyone button. |
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| 13:30.10 | Megalon | mindcontrols Fisker |
| 13:30.19 | Megalon | hmhmh, nothing to control |
| 13:30.20 | Megalon | :[ |
| 13:30.29 | haste | mind controls * |
| 13:35.34 | vhaarr | suddenly jumps off a cliff for some reason, and is quite confused by the whole affair |
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| 13:41.40 | Fisker | haha |
| 13:41.43 | Fisker | god damn jerk asmodai |
| 13:42.01 | Fisker | he kept harassing my pylons with reapers |
| 13:42.07 | Fisker | then i sent a zealot into his base |
| 13:42.22 | Fisker | He had reapers + marauders |
| 13:42.27 | Fisker | So i built 4 void rays and killed his base |
| 13:42.35 | Fisker | "gay" |
| 13:42.35 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:42.47 | asmodai | Fisker: btw, why did that one guy just leave on your vid? :( |
| 13:42.53 | asmodai | I hate rude people like that |
| 13:42.58 | Fisker | he lost |
| 13:42.59 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:43.04 | Fisker | this one just called me gay |
| 13:43.18 | Fisker | maybe he should've thought of some god damn marines :P |
| 13:44.07 | asmodai | Heh |
| 13:44.25 | asmodai | My colleague and me, although we're not the greatest players, are amazed at how some people are playing. |
| 13:44.32 | asmodai | Some don't even hotkey their squads :| |
| 13:46.44 | nevcairiel | hotkeying my squads is about all i do with hotkeys |
| 13:47.00 | nevcairiel | zooming around the map and building with hotkeys was never something i managed :p |
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| 13:54.37 | olafski | I can do that with some units ;) |
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| 13:59.59 | Fisker | so asmodai |
| 14:00.02 | Fisker | doh |
| 14:00.14 | Fisker | damn |
| 14:00.38 | Fisker | :o |
| 14:00.40 | Fisker | 50GB :( |
| 14:00.57 | Megalon | of you sucking at rts? :[ |
| 14:01.01 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:01.05 | Fisker | but i won |
| 14:01.08 | Megalon | :D |
| 14:01.19 | Megalon | yea, because even wow players got keys |
| 14:01.44 | Megalon | have fun getting those 50gb on youtube! |
| 14:03.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7370 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:03.27 | Fisker | i suck though |
| 14:03.36 | Repo | If we find a boolean flag in the boss settings we will simply reset it to the defaults now, but we still print the warning, because something is obviously wrong somewhere if this happens. |
| 14:03.39 | Fisker | since i forgot to record in 1080 |
| 14:03.43 | Fisker | so now i have to resize |
| 14:05.33 | vhaarr | wait, what, Fisker got a sc2 beta key finally? |
| 14:05.46 | vhaarr | I swear pigs are flying outside |
| 14:06.07 | vhaarr | http://www.liveeverett.com/Portals/3/flying%20pig.jpg |
| 14:09.03 | Megalon | Fisker got pigtails, coincidence? |
| 14:13.33 | wink | anyone getting bombarded with wow scam mails lately as I do? |
| 14:14.00 | wink | it's my general public email adress that's written in the web for 10 years - but only last month it got bad |
| 14:15.00 | sztanpet | route it through gmail |
| 14:15.18 | Fisker | yawn |
| 14:15.21 | Fisker | encoding is a bitch |
| 14:15.30 | Fisker | why haven't they cuda'd the fuck out of that yet? |
| 14:15.43 | wink | why the fuck would I route my mail through gmail? |
| 14:15.52 | sztanpet | they have, you can buy some commercial shit for it |
| 14:16.01 | sztanpet | wink to get rid of the bad things |
| 14:16.09 | sztanpet | spam, scam whatever |
| 14:16.36 | wink | I don't remember mentioning I had a problem getting rid of it, did I= |
| 14:16.54 | Fisker | sztanpet i've only heard of transcoders |
| 14:18.52 | sztanpet | Fisker no idea, a friend linked me badaboom but i dont care too much for them so no idea if it suits your purpose or not |
| 14:19.59 | Fisker | it's only transcoding so no |
| 14:21.20 | wink | I find the term "transcode" highly...weird |
| 14:21.31 | wink | it's one kind of conversion |
| 14:21.53 | Fisker | it is |
| 14:22.02 | Fisker | It's basically conversion from one format to another |
| 14:22.14 | wink | where's the logic in calling it transcoding? |
| 14:22.17 | wink | only for video |
| 14:22.22 | Fisker | dunno |
| 14:22.49 | wink | maybe someone had an empty field in his bullshit bingo card :) |
| 14:30.11 | Repo | 10fubar_groupfu: 03tomsommer * r139 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add 5 second clear timer |
| 14:31.05 | Repo | 10fubar_groupfu: 03tomsommer * r140 FuBar_GroupFu.toc: TOC bump |
| 14:33.31 | arkanes | its not just for video |
| 14:33.52 | arkanes | you'd say transcoding for any format, and the reason why it has a special name is because it results in exponential errors |
| 14:34.42 | arkanes | when you transcode from one lossy format to another, you get a much worse end result (and it gets worse every time you do it) than if you re-encode the source material |
| 14:35.45 | koaschten_ | This is strangely soothing ... http://www.mg8.org/processing/bt.html |
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| 14:38.14 | Repo | 10fubar_groupfu: 03tomsommer * r141 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:38.16 | Repo | Revert. Might spam with 5 sec clear timer, not designed for less than 10? |
| 14:51.23 | Fisker | hey koaschten_ |
| 14:51.25 | Fisker | want to make out? |
| 14:51.38 | koaschten_ | only if you are a torrent simulation |
| 14:52.25 | wink | arkanes: then it's still short for "lossy conversion" :) |
| 14:52.52 | wink | wtf would be a torrent simulation? |
| 14:54.08 | Fisker | your mother wink |
| 14:54.19 | koaschten_ | wink follow the link i posted a bit up |
| 14:54.26 | wink | ah |
| 14:54.30 | wink | repo hid it |
| 14:54.35 | wink | between spammage |
| 14:55.00 | wink | holy shit it's lagging |
| 14:57.22 | wink | nice |
| 14:57.36 | wink | but I wouldn't try with 100 peers |
| 14:57.44 | wink | my browser nearly crashed |
| 14:58.05 | asmodai | Fisker: 50 GB video? :| |
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| 14:59.32 | koaschten_ | wink thats because its using 100% cpu on a single thread ;) so you better got a multicore or not try it ;) |
| 15:00.07 | wink | actually, browsing the processing.js website just really crashed it |
| 15:00.17 | wink | html 5 canvas - rockstable |
| 15:01.20 | wink | I find this has a very awesome guitar solo in it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rll0PqY6B3c&feature=video_response |
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| 15:10.19 | nevcairiel | wee my farscape collection already arrived, shipment from the US wasnt that slow, afterall |
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| 15:10.48 | genetik- | wink: kinda sounds like she just learned how to play guitar, to be quite honest |
| 15:11.33 | wink | ignorance is bliss :) I find it better than the studio version |
| 15:11.46 | wink | farsca.. oh my |
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| 15:35.36 | yoshimo | !api GetGuildBankItemInfo |
| 15:35.37 | lua_bot | GetGuildBankItemInfo: Returns information about the contents of a guild bank item slot (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGuildBankItemInfo) |
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| 16:21.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r7371 / (3 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: |
| 16:21.37 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 16:28.44 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 16:29.40 | yoshimo | i know recount prints the top 3 damagedealer and their dmg &dps, but can it also show the raids dps&dmg for each try, the totals? |
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| 16:36.26 | durcyn | you can change the number of lines, did you not see that slider across the bottom of the report frame with a quantity next to it |
| 16:37.28 | yoshimo | i can report more players but is there a line for all players together? |
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| 17:05.11 | Ingela | Shadowed, hey, what happened to portraits to suf? my dissapeared :S can't apply them again in anyway |
| 17:05.41 | Shadowed | Update and run /script for _, unit in pairs(ShadowUF.db.profile.units) do unit.portrait.fullAfter = nil end |
| 17:09.46 | Ingela | yeap works now thanks |
| 17:13.09 | Fisker | i have the best bug ever Shadowed |
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| 17:23.19 | Stanzilla | Fisker: best bug of all time? |
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| 17:25.33 | quiescens | ever~ |
| 17:26.29 | zoktar | lo, been lookin for a mail addon that opens "all" mail, like now i have over 1000 mails. so it only opens the full pages or so, then i have to reopen mailbox after a while to get the next 3ish pages. anyone know an addon that does that auto? |
| 17:27.05 | quiescens | you can't |
| 17:27.26 | olafski | what did you do to get 1000 mails? just curious |
| 17:27.34 | zoktar | :( |
| 17:27.35 | olafski | a ton of auctions of 1 dream dust? ;) |
| 17:27.36 | yoshimo | auction house i guess |
| 17:27.46 | zoktar | hitting ah ye |
| 17:27.51 | quiescens | blizzard only exposes x pages at a time |
| 17:28.13 | olafski | and then a minute later it fills them up again right? |
| 17:28.22 | zoktar | guess theres no way of opening the mailbox with a "command" |
| 17:28.30 | zoktar | ye |
| 17:29.18 | yoshimo | well postal makes my ah life way more bearable |
| 17:29.58 | zoktar | hmm so theres noway to refresh mailbox without exiting and clicking on it then? |
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| 17:34.13 | zoktar | found an addon that did it! =) |
| 17:34.28 | zoktar | mailopener + postal |
| 17:34.32 | olafski | nice |
| 17:35.48 | Fisker | yeah Shadowed |
| 17:36.01 | Fisker | for some reason it looks like i skip the queue |
| 17:36.10 | Fisker | when queuing as dps on my paladin i get in within 30 seconds |
| 17:36.22 | Fisker | every other character i have doesn't get it until after like 10 minutes |
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| 17:42.00 | olafski | oO |
| 17:46.22 | yoshimo | shouldnt gridstatusraiddebuff be working for all languages? |
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| 17:52.42 | NeoTron | so Burning Crusade is live in China - I thought it already was? |
| 17:53.10 | nicoli_s | new people can sign up |
| 17:53.22 | nicoli_s | they were just barred from accepting new users i thought |
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| 18:28.46 | yoshimo | if i want to read out whats in the guildbank, do i use QueryGuildBankTab(tab) ? |
| 18:33.07 | DWSR | If an addon is using Ace2, will porting it to Ace3 reduce the memory usage? |
| 18:33.55 | nevcairiel | The memory usage is completly independant of whatever library you use |
| 18:33.55 | genetik- | doubtful, but it might reduce the cpu cycles |
| 18:34.02 | nevcairiel | Same for cpu cycles |
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| 18:34.41 | nevcairiel | Unelss its your last Ace2 addon, the memory footprint of the lib would of course fall off then |
| 18:34.49 | DWSR | Yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking. |
| 18:34.56 | DWSR | Aloft is the only Ace2 addon that I use. |
| 18:35.00 | DWSR | Everything else has been ported to 3. |
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| 18:41.05 | LebQzz | wow anyone heard anything about why blizzard servers are lagging like a "bi****" |
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| 18:47.12 | wink | doesn't lagging enhance the experience? |
| 18:47.20 | wink | like.. with the movement |
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| 18:48.14 | wink | or maybe I got your definition of bi**** wrong |
| 18:48.25 | wink | sadly my irc client only displayed stars |
| 18:50.21 | DWSR | wink: hehe |
| 18:50.27 | DWSR | bitch. |
| 18:51.25 | wink | oh, the . |
| 18:51.29 | wink | that's creative |
| 18:51.36 | wink | ban censorship° |
| 18:51.40 | wink | ! :) |
| 18:52.25 | DWSR | *shrug* |
| 18:52.27 | DWSR | they're just words. |
| 18:52.32 | DWSR | And only as offensive as you find them. |
| 18:52.55 | wink | in retrospect, this is hilarious: |
| 18:52.56 | wink | http://pastie.org/833122 |
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| 18:57.25 | aestil | to continue a conversation from yesterday. http://vr-zone.com/articles/fermi-mass-availability-delayed-to-q2/8461.html |
| 18:58.43 | yoshimo | is it worth upgrading to a midclass fermi card if i have gtx275? |
| 18:59.05 | nevcairiel | its usually only worth upgrading to the 2nd generation after yours |
| 19:01.03 | nevcairiel | on that note, i didnt really hear much about the next ati generation to fight fermis performance (despite of all production flaws) |
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| 19:03.08 | Fisker | look at my horse nevcairiel |
| 19:03.13 | asmodai | nevcairiel: the 6k series? |
| 19:03.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker: is it amazing? |
| 19:04.15 | nevcairiel | isnt that supposed to be out in 2011 only or something? |
| 19:04.30 | Fisker | yes Stanzilla |
| 19:04.38 | Fisker | but somehow that avidemux fucked up something :o |
| 19:04.43 | Fisker | WMP can't view the output anymore |
| 19:04.47 | Fisker | but media player classic can |
| 19:05.06 | nevcairiel | what container did you put it in? |
| 19:05.20 | Fisker | mkv |
| 19:05.27 | Fisker | it's the same i put it in |
| 19:05.32 | Fisker | i just adjusted the bitrate a bit |
| 19:05.34 | nevcairiel | WMP has no mkv splitter |
| 19:05.40 | Fisker | i do |
| 19:05.57 | Arrowmaster | MPC has a builtin one but everybody uses haali's |
| 19:06.10 | Fisker | haali's smaali's |
| 19:06.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Not sure. Haven't caught up much on the 6k series yet. |
| 19:06.20 | Fisker | there's this great thing called directshow |
| 19:06.33 | nevcairiel | WMP in 7 uses MediaFoundation |
| 19:06.38 | nevcairiel | not directshow |
| 19:06.44 | Fisker | oh yeah that's its name |
| 19:07.03 | Arrowmaster | haali is a directshow splitter |
| 19:07.10 | Fisker | anyway every other .mkv file is shown just fine |
| 19:07.23 | Fisker | and yes i double checked that i didn't just fuck up the extension and encode as something else |
| 19:07.29 | Arrowmaster | what codec is the video? |
| 19:07.37 | Fisker | MPEG4-AVC i think |
| 19:07.44 | Fisker | it's called |
| 19:07.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:09.10 | Repo | 10drainsouler: 03kunda * r7 DrainSouler.lua: update TRICKY TICK Note (just comment, no code change) |
| 19:11.14 | DWSR | Fisker: Extension != codec. |
| 19:12.48 | Fisker | i know |
| 19:13.55 | Gnarfoz | WMP on win7 -> divx mkv splitter (which is media foundation, apparently) -> mkvs in wmp |
| 19:14.11 | nevcairiel | but why use wmp anyway |
| 19:14.15 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 19:14.35 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.36 | nevcairiel | unless you want to run a media center edition because you're too lazy to setup xbmc |
| 19:14.49 | DWSR | Fisker: Mplayer, mkay? |
| 19:14.55 | Fisker | no. |
| 19:14.55 | Gnarfoz | 15 minutes to set up quartz3 like quartz2 was set up? I think not... *downgrades for the 4th time* |
| 19:15.03 | nevcairiel | I have CoreAVC, CUDA power > DXVA :P |
| 19:15.07 | Fisker | i disagree Gnarfoz |
| 19:15.08 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Fail. |
| 19:15.09 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Yeah. |
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| 19:15.23 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: you fail |
| 19:15.26 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: How long did it take you to set up Quartz2 (I'll give you a hint, it's the same amount of time). |
| 19:15.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: indeed, except cuda or no cuda really doesn't matter |
| 19:15.45 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: I'll give you a hint: stfu ;) |
| 19:16.00 | nevcairiel | no, it doesnt |
| 19:16.05 | nevcairiel | but neither does DXVA :) |
| 19:16.19 | Gnarfoz | obviously I want it to look the same as quartz2 does now. pixel-perfect(ly) setting it up again I won't do in a hurry. :P |
| 19:16.29 | nevcairiel | on low-end systems it might matter to offload 1080p decode to the GPU |
| 19:16.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: *shrug*? ^^ |
| 19:16.33 | nevcairiel | but hey, i have a i7 |
| 19:16.41 | nevcairiel | but its still cool to use it :p |
| 19:16.59 | Fisker | giev screenshots nevcairiel |
| 19:17.05 | quiescens | those cpu cycles could be doing something else |
| 19:17.09 | Gnarfoz | c2d e6750 is enough, also... only thing that's weird is that on win7, it lags when it's on top of a windowed-maximized WoW |
| 19:17.11 | nevcairiel | screenshots? |
| 19:17.12 | quiescens | while you watch your movie |
| 19:17.48 | DWSR | quiescens: Like....downloading porn? |
| 19:18.31 | Fisker | yes nevcairiel |
| 19:18.35 | nevcairiel | of what? |
| 19:18.39 | quiescens | downloading things doesn't stress a cpu |
| 19:18.50 | quiescens | clearly you need to play two games while watching a movie |
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| 19:19.05 | asmodai | Fisker: More vids! |
| 19:19.11 | DWSR | quiescens: It does when you're downloading over 9000mbps. |
| 19:19.13 | asmodai | We crave full HD vids |
| 19:19.24 | asmodai | DWSR: That meme is sooo 2009 |
| 19:19.28 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: offload engines that actually work: ftw |
| 19:19.40 | quiescens | you might run into an i/o bottleneck |
| 19:19.56 | DWSR | quiescens: I doubt it. Gogo Fibre channel SAN. |
| 19:20.15 | Fisker | CoreAVC nevcairiel |
| 19:20.23 | Fisker | uploading one now asmodai |
| 19:20.28 | nevcairiel | its a decoder, wtf do you want a screenshot for :P |
| 19:20.31 | Fisker | but i just remembered i forgot to shoot @ 1920x1080 |
| 19:20.38 | quiescens | screenshots make everything better |
| 19:20.42 | Fisker | so picture will probably look a bit weird |
| 19:20.44 | asmodai | Fisker: fail :( |
| 19:20.56 | DWSR | Lies. |
| 19:20.59 | DWSR | Sex makes everything better. |
| 19:21.46 | Fisker | oh nevermind nevcairiel |
| 19:21.54 | Fisker | i thought coreavc was actually a player :P |
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| 19:22.09 | nevcairiel | they have CorePlayer too |
| 19:22.20 | Gnarfoz | which is obviously superfluous bloat |
| 19:22.31 | asmodai | DWSR: That's true |
| 19:22.37 | nevcairiel | never used it |
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| 19:22.52 | nevcairiel | but they also have CorePlayer for various mobile devices to play videos with hardware support |
| 19:22.59 | nevcairiel | which is actually ratehr nice |
| 19:23.11 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:23.48 | nevcairiel | they're working on android right now, but i think they cant access the relevant stuff yet, need a new NDK or so |
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| 19:29.19 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F565Pypsuo4 <-totally HD asmodai |
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| 19:32.50 | asmodai | Fisker: still processing |
| 19:33.01 | asmodai | Fisker: doesn't show as HD yet for me at least ;) |
| 19:33.01 | Fisker | i know |
| 19:33.10 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:34.44 | Fisker | totally sucks though |
| 19:35.00 | Fisker | takes like 1/2 realtime to encode |
| 19:35.10 | Fisker | i don't have that kind of patience! |
| 19:35.44 | Megalon | go kill yourself |
| 19:35.49 | Megalon | that should take care of that time problem |
| 19:37.19 | DWSR | revenge of the trolls? |
| 19:38.12 | quiescens | they need to give /moo sounds to the other races |
| 19:38.25 | DWSR | ~larts qiue |
| 19:38.27 | DWSR | wow |
| 19:38.30 | DWSR | tabcomplete fail |
| 19:38.35 | DWSR | Also, no purl in this channel apparently. |
| 19:38.39 | DWSR | ~lart quiescens |
| 19:38.39 | purl | throws quiescens's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 19:38.42 | DWSR | nvm |
| 19:38.49 | quiescens | ): |
| 19:38.54 | quiescens | that's not nice |
| 19:40.08 | Megalon | yea, that dog could have hit someone below that cliff |
| 19:40.23 | DWSR | ~lart Megalon |
| 19:40.23 | purl | holds Megalon to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
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| 19:41.06 | Megalon | regenerages |
| 19:42.34 | DWSR | ~whalenuke Megalon |
| 19:42.35 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Megalon with his mind powers. |
| 19:43.32 | quiescens | so violent |
| 19:44.11 | DWSR | Not I. |
| 19:44.14 | DWSR | points to purl |
| 19:44.16 | DWSR | ~botsnack |
| 19:44.16 | purl | aw, gee, DWSR |
| 19:44.43 | DWSR | see? |
| 19:44.46 | DWSR | I'm very nice. |
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| 19:46.05 | Megalon | as nice as an ingrown toenail |
| 19:59.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7374 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
| 20:00.18 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: so coreavc does hardware decoding of any h264 video now using cuda? |
| 20:00.29 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:00.39 | Arrowmaster | seems they are finally catching up |
| 20:00.47 | nevcairiel | been doing that for quite a while already |
| 20:00.57 | nevcairiel | just requires a VP2 card |
| 20:01.15 | Arrowmaster | VP2? |
| 20:02.12 | nevcairiel | the nvidia pure video version, VP2 cards have a CUDA API thats new enough for it to work |
| 20:02.27 | nevcairiel | anything above the G80 chipset, mostly |
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| 20:08.35 | aestil | I doubt that ati will need a new archetecutre to compete with fermi. |
| 20:09.14 | Fisker | ARE YOU READY? Check back here on Monday morning at 9:00 a.m. PST for a major announcement! |
| 20:09.16 | Fisker | FERMI TIMES |
| 20:09.17 | aestil | at the rate nvidia is going fermi will come out and be 15% faster than a 5970, at which point a base revision to the 5xxx series will bump up ATI's perfomance, match fermi, and be 200 cheaper. |
| 20:09.20 | Fisker | TIEMS* |
| 20:09.44 | Fisker | anyway you're right aestil |
| 20:09.54 | Fisker | ATi already lost, so there's nothing they can do to compete really |
| 20:10.27 | aestil | lost? |
| 20:10.36 | aestil | lost what? |
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| 20:10.40 | pentium166 | the game |
| 20:10.45 | aestil | what game? |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | THE game |
| 20:10.57 | nevcairiel | google for it |
| 20:10.57 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 20:11.06 | Thrae | aestil, Fisker: Speculation. It's only ~24 days away, I'd wait that long before making any purchasing decisions. If you're not purchasing soon, speculate away! |
| 20:11.53 | aestil | google what exactly? |
| 20:12.04 | Fisker | wat Thrae ? |
| 20:12.07 | olafski | the game, aestil :< |
| 20:12.16 | olafski | aestil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29 |
| 20:12.24 | Thrae | Fisker: Fermi News |
| 20:12.41 | Fisker | well i can't buy it until it's out now can i? :3 |
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| 20:13.15 | Thrae | Fisker: Yeah, I'm just saying don't rule it out yet. Also, I don't agree with that rumor, but people have been dismissing me for the last week or so. |
| 20:13.34 | nevcairiel | eh, despite all production issues, ati cant compete with the fermi architecture |
| 20:13.35 | Fisker | with what rumor? |
| 20:13.44 | nevcairiel | not with the 5xxx series, anyway |
| 20:13.57 | nevcairiel | if nvidia would just manage to build those cards already |
| 20:13.58 | Thrae | Fisker: Well, for one, its not only a 15% performance pump over the latest in ATI's arsenal. |
| 20:14.06 | Thrae | s/pump/bump/ |
| 20:14.16 | Fisker | ah |
| 20:14.22 | Fisker | wasn't my claim though |
| 20:14.42 | Fisker | but the technology is vastly superior to ATi so i won't mind if it is only 15% better |
| 20:14.52 | Fisker | in a year they'll be 100% better |
| 20:15.01 | Fisker | bs numbers of course but still |
| 20:15.01 | Thrae | Fisker: For a while ATI has been bumping up their performance by cramming as much technology as they can according to Moore's Law. Nvidia is actually using a *new* architecture. ATI is countering with Evergeen, but that may not pan out as their biggest issue is their tiny, simple shaders. |
| 20:15.19 | Fisker | 33exactly |
| 20:15.45 | Fisker | Their tessellation tech is awesome |
| 20:15.47 | nevcairiel | thats why nvidia has such production issues, they designed a new chip instead of simply pimping and enhancing the old ones |
| 20:15.54 | Thrae | ATI and Shaders are like the Pentium 4 days -- people see "OMG 230200 shaders" and don't realize that Nvidia's shaders are about 200-300% more effective on average. |
| 20:16.15 | Thrae | That's how Nvidia has been competing, otherwise Nvidia's lack of shaders would have killed them long ago. |
| 20:16.47 | Thrae | It's also the reason ATI was so quick to update to DX11, because their shader tech is more simple than Nvidia. |
| 20:17.02 | nevcairiel | maybe the first gen of fermi cards won't be the best nvidia has ever made, but the architecture will shine over time |
| 20:18.04 | Fisker | lian-li is batshit insane though :P |
| 20:18.05 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Yeah, I'd like to buy Fermi in March if its good, and if it's not good, screw Nvidia. Or if it's just some small flaws, I can maybe wait until June, but really Nvidia needs Fermi. |
| 20:18.11 | Fisker | tool-less psu and motherboard mounting |
| 20:18.15 | Fisker | i was like "wat?" |
| 20:18.24 | Thrae | nevcairiel: June? I mean April. |
| 20:18.52 | nevcairiel | i'm good for gfx for the next year at least |
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| 20:41.21 | asmodai | jesus |
| 20:41.31 | asmodai | That AvP sure gives you the movie feeling |
| 20:41.59 | asmodai | Thrae: March/April? Better wait until May |
| 20:42.17 | asmodai | Thrae: nvidia said they don't expect full production runs until later in fiscal Q2 |
| 20:42.21 | asmodai | which is roughly May/June |
| 20:43.21 | Thrae | asmodai: That's for the biggest market, medium-end and low-end. The super-high-end and high-end, with low yields, are expected in Q1. |
| 20:43.54 | zoktar | nyone know an addon that monitors trade/lfg and brings upp all the lfg/lfm entrys? |
| 20:44.24 | Thrae | zoktar: Yeah, I'd like an addon that messages them to use the damn LFG channel. |
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| 20:45.13 | zoktar | lfg is somewhat flawed since the recent changes. |
| 20:45.32 | zoktar | doesnt seem to work outside of citys |
| 20:46.11 | Thrae | zoktar: Trade isn't suppose to, either |
| 20:47.08 | zoktar | no but since lfg doesnt work out of citys ppl have to go to a city to announce, and trade is already beeing monitored by all so, adds to the problem :/ |
| 20:48.30 | ckknight | so you all know, SC2 is awesome |
| 20:48.50 | sb|work | giev betakey already ckknight :P |
| 20:49.03 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:49.19 | durcyn | there aren't keys. |
| 20:49.20 | ckknight | we didn't get beta keys, we gave Blizz account info and they attached it |
| 20:49.33 | ckknight | durcyn: actually there are some, e.g. the BlizzCon keys |
| 20:49.35 | durcyn | it's just dumped directly into your battle.net account |
| 20:49.52 | durcyn | pffth, you'd have to pay me to go to blizzcon after the first one |
| 20:52.04 | DWSR | zoktar: Ear to the Ground |
| 20:52.13 | DWSR | zoktar: And the LFG channel is now global. |
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| 20:53.06 | Fisker | ptrs are up? |
| 20:55.12 | aestil | fermi is huge die by comparison to the cypress die. |
| 20:55.26 | aestil | if anyone is bumping up against moore's law its nvidia. |
| 20:57.28 | asmodai | ckknight: I hate you |
| 20:57.35 | ckknight | no you don't |
| 20:57.38 | asmodai | True |
| 20:57.39 | asmodai | but still |
| 20:58.09 | asmodai | ok, first mission as marine, alien or predator now? |
| 20:59.14 | Fisker | avp sucks |
| 20:59.26 | asmodai | Fisker: Oh go play your sc2 |
| 20:59.27 | aestil | the fermi chip is fine, but they screwed the pooch on fabrication. They are in a shitstorm of trouble. they are 6 - 8 months late at least? by the time it hits ati will have the opportunity to do a refresh, and their next archetecture, which is a redesign, will be out end of this year or beginining of next. fermi will be a rare card. overpriced and underpowered. |
| 20:59.46 | asmodai | aestil: You channeling Charlie whatshisname? |
| 20:59.52 | aestil | no. |
| 21:00.22 | nevcairiel | You sound like a broken record, do you keep those in a text file to copy/paste somwhere? :d |
| 21:00.27 | aestil | i'm channeling: i've been waiting forever for there to be some competition in the graphics card space and i had to break down and upgrade and couldn't wait anymore and now i'm tired of all the shit nvidia has bene pulled. |
| 21:00.54 | aestil | nevcairiel: hah. no. |
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| 21:02.18 | nevcairiel | fermi has production issues because its a real new design. Ati has been driving the old design to its limits, due to that they had the chance to improve the design, hence the better production, but still the old design |
| 21:02.39 | nevcairiel | we'll see what 6xxx brings, since i havent seen any substantial information yet |
| 21:02.57 | aestil | yes, 6xxx is still a mystery |
| 21:03.08 | aestil | fermi has production problems because its a new process |
| 21:03.11 | aestil | ati had the same problems with the 4770 |
| 21:03.20 | aestil | which caused it to be in very short supply. |
| 21:04.53 | aestil | nvidia does have a lot of brute force power in the fermi. i wonder what the availability/price will be like when it is released. i'm hoping its much much faster than a 5870, and still noticablly faster than a 5970. |
| 21:04.54 | nevcairiel | Its still kinda hilarious that around december neither nvidia nor ati was able to ship their high-end cards |
| 21:05.04 | aestil | yes. TSMC |
| 21:05.34 | aestil | i'm guessing that the 6xxxx will be @ global foundries on their 28mm SOI process? |
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| 21:44.37 | Gnarfoz | guessing is all you're going to do for a while ;) |
| 21:46.36 | Gnarfoz | and nev, I'm channeling charlie whatshisname, the point that AMD uses the 4770 to try out TSMC's 40nm process (which went badly, but at least they knew what was coming for 5xxx) and adapted Cypress for it while nvidia just designed and now suffers because their design + TSMC's 40nm process = utter fail is pretty sound (at least for AMD's part, it's based on facts ;D) |
| 21:47.06 | Gnarfoz | (actually, I don't even think that article was from him, it was on anandtech or the reg? I'm tired ;x) |
| 21:47.27 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:47.48 | nevcairiel | i had to read that line three times to understand it |
| 21:48.20 | Gnarfoz | if you read his most recent article and followed all the links in it, you'd be on the same page as I |
| 21:48.30 | Gnarfoz | (meaning, of course, I had to read up on backstory) |
| 21:48.46 | Fisker | 11btw they're up now asmodai |
| 21:48.51 | Gnarfoz | man, my english sucks tonight |
| 21:48.54 | Fisker | who's charlie? |
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| 21:49.11 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: the dude who's been verbally ripping nvidia new one's for all the delays on Fermi, heh |
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| 21:49.24 | Gnarfoz | Charlie Demerjian |
| 21:49.27 | Repo | 206778a: Removed the Vendor flag from "Swift Brewfest Ram" and fixed a bug that was refering the brewfest mounts to Hallow's End instead of Brewfest. |
| 21:49.28 | Repo | c75e583: Removed the incorrect PVP flag from "Big Blizzard Bear" |
| 21:49.32 | Gnarfoz | http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/17/nvidias-fermigtx480-broken-and-unfixable/ < this and others |
| 21:49.45 | nevcairiel | oh yeah that, i read that yesterday |
| 21:49.52 | nevcairiel | was so biased, wasnt even funny anymore |
| 21:50.29 | Fisker | pretty much anyone in the industry agrees that Fermi is probably the biggest evolution of an nvidia card ever |
| 21:50.48 | nevcairiel | nvidia just needs to manage production |
| 21:51.23 | Gnarfoz | weasel words :o |
| 21:51.56 | Gnarfoz | and how would you write an article declaring the doom of a company's product being labeled "biased"? :P |
| 21:52.52 | nevcairiel | you can write something like that obejctive |
| 21:53.38 | Fisker | on the flipside the only reason ATi still exists is due to the money Intel just fed them |
| 21:54.05 | Gnarfoz | ati hasn't existed for some time now :p |
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| 21:59.59 | Gnarfoz | @describe odyssey |
| 22:00.00 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/odyssey/. Odyssey. Quest Database & Leveling Assistant |
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| 22:05.20 | aestil | nevcairiel: may be biased in the sense he will always spin it negative, but I don't think any of the facts are wrong about the yields, the steppings they at, the clock speeds and shader core counts they are looking at. |
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| 22:10.25 | aestil | both ati and nvidia have had stumbles in their product schedule before. this is just another one of those times. |
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| 22:10.28 | nevcairiel | I'm sure they have some production issues, otherwise it wouldnt be delayed so much, but that doesnt change the fact that fermi is a revolution in gpu design |
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| 22:10.28 | Gnarfoz | could you point out what you mean by that (repeatedly used) phrase, btw? |
| 22:10.29 | Gnarfoz | I'm not following the developement much, I'm just annoyed that all nvidia cards currently on the market suck, and AMD still has availability problems with the 58x0's :X |
| 22:10.29 | Fisker | no availability issues here ;3 |
| 22:10.51 | NeoTron | So my gmail account appears broken. I didn't get my SC2 beta notification yet! |
| 22:10.57 | NeoTron | anyone else with the same issue? |
| 22:11.13 | nevcairiel | For one its the first GPU with real cache, which speeds up processing by alot, and the new threading model will be able to calculate multiple kernels at the same time, which is important mostly for PhysX stuff, fluid or particle simulation |
| 22:11.23 | nevcairiel | Its not just more raw power like before |
| 22:11.26 | nevcairiel | its actually something new |
| 22:13.21 | nevcairiel | http://www.nvidia.com/object/fermi_architecture.html there is a movie explaining some of the new features, although its mostly focused on CUDA/GPGPU topics |
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| 22:14.17 | Fisker | there was a really nice batch of info a month back or so |
| 22:14.32 | Fisker | http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3721 |
| 22:14.33 | Fisker | there we go |
| 22:16.14 | nevcairiel | Just needs a game to actually use real fluid or particle simulations |
| 22:16.31 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lw-7gt919w |
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| 22:17.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: see, that's what I'm always thinking when I hear them talking about massive GPGPU/CUDA improvements, new this, new that: nobody uses that stuff and nobody will for quite some time, probably =( |
| 22:18.09 | Gnarfoz | especially their weird raytracing demonstrations where they don't even achieve 30fps |
| 22:18.15 | nevcairiel | but if no-one implements it, we'll never have raytracing engines! |
| 22:18.25 | Gnarfoz | why even demonstrate something that embarrassing? :D |
| 22:18.38 | nevcairiel | because 30fps in raytracing is groundbreaking? ^ |
| 22:18.46 | Gnarfoz | they don't achieve^ |
| 22:19.00 | Gnarfoz | no one's going to adapt it if it's not usable |
| 22:19.35 | nevcairiel | not yet |
| 22:19.41 | Gnarfoz | they could've just paper-launched it and said "this is cool, but we'll just improve upon it, here's one of those "simply scaled up upgrades" in the meantime to keep you happy" :p |
| 22:19.42 | nevcairiel | raytracing is the future for high quality rendering |
| 22:20.12 | nevcairiel | there is only so much that you can do with our current designs |
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| 22:20.55 | Gnarfoz | I have no doubt that the same visual quality is achievable with both philosophies if you apply enough processing power |
| 22:21.25 | Gnarfoz | the... what would be an appropriate name for the techniques employed by 100% of all current and old games? |
| 22:22.33 | Gnarfoz | that technique has the fps problems solved and just needs to further increase quality; raytracing renderers doing photorealistic renders are already out there, but they don't give anywhere close to "real time" fps |
| 22:22.37 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* |
| 22:22.59 | Gnarfoz | it would be one of the biggest paradigm shifts in computer (gaming?) history |
| 22:23.34 | Gnarfoz | (^ that meaning "game developers shifting to raytracing engines instead of... whatever the appropriate name for today's stuff is") |
| 22:23.39 | nevcairiel | they don't yet, but once we have the power for ray tracing engines on mainstream cards, the engines will appear |
| 22:27.48 | nevcairiel | there doesnt seem to be a real catchy name for the current rendering models |
| 22:29.07 | nevcairiel | its basically scanline rendering with rasterisation |
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| 22:29.39 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 22:29.43 | Gnarfoz | that's the output method |
| 22:30.04 | Gnarfoz | I was thinking of the 3d primivites/objects |
| 22:30.11 | Fisker | Glacial Bag: Creating this item now invokes a 7-day cooldown. |
| 22:30.12 | Fisker | WTF |
| 22:30.13 | Fisker | FUCK THAT |
| 22:30.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: woot, ptr? |
| 22:30.33 | Gnarfoz | oh yay, *om nom nom's on MMOC* |
| 22:30.55 | Ingela | great no disc fixes fucking AGAIN |
| 22:30.59 | Ingela | i HATE blizzard |
| 22:31.04 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r85 Castbars.lua: |
| 22:31.04 | Gnarfoz | your disc is broken? |
| 22:31.06 | Repo | Change the configuration panel to a tabbed interface to make it easier to navigate. |
| 22:31.10 | steev | renchap: http://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/building-chromium-os/portage-based-build |
| 22:31.12 | Ingela | yes, disc is broken as hell |
| 22:31.24 | nevcairiel | The only big difference in ray tracing is the global illumination model |
| 22:31.37 | nevcairiel | which can also be done with different algorithms, fwiw |
| 22:31.41 | Gnarfoz | depending on the renderer, yeah |
| 22:32.16 | aestil | fermi will not be making raytraced games. |
| 22:32.27 | aestil | perhaps the programable shader cores are step towards that though. |
| 22:32.36 | nevcairiel | we didnt say it would |
| 22:32.41 | aestil | intel seems to want to be in that direction as well. |
| 22:32.41 | nevcairiel | its still too slow |
| 22:32.55 | nevcairiel | global illumination is still years away |
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| 22:33.24 | aestil | how many bounces do you need for a raytraced image to look 'good'? |
| 22:36.49 | nicoli_s | eleventy? |
| 22:38.14 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I need a shoulder massage |
| 22:38.35 | Ackis | I did something to it this morning where it felt like a ligament got misaligned or something evilish |
| 22:39.08 | nicoli_s | ouch |
| 22:39.16 | nicoli_s | go get some acupuncture |
| 22:39.18 | Ackis | (I almost cried) |
| 22:39.28 | Ackis | then I realized I had a penis, and punched the wall |
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| 22:54.17 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar * r61 GridDynamicLayout.lua: GridDynamicLayout: |
| 22:54.17 | Repo | - Fixed trash group not working |
| 22:54.40 | Gnarfoz | !api SendChatMessage |
| 22:54.42 | lua_bot | SendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage) |
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| 22:55.43 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar 04v1.5.2 * r62 : Tagging as v1.5.2 |
| 23:00.53 | aestil | it seems like most of you guys are linux, be |
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| 23:24.11 | vhaarr | "be"? |
| 23:28.41 | Bruners | "you guys are linux" ? |
| 23:31.33 | Stanzilla | linux bloodelfs |
| 23:33.10 | Gnarfoz | they're coming for you. |
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| 23:38.48 | Repo | 10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r111 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua: |
| 23:38.50 | Repo | cleaner implementation which removes the OnEvent hook from the FriendsFrame. Courtesy of Pazza. Should hopefully clear up some of the weird taint cases. |
| 23:49.05 | Wobin | Open Source Elves =P |
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| 23:53.47 | Repo | 10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r112 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua: prevent re-registration of WHO_LIST_UPDATED |
| 23:59.32 | BWMerlin | hmm |
| 23:59.40 | BWMerlin | wow keeps minimising on me :( |
