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| 00:58.28 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1312 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:58.29 | Repo | - Use cast time of a common spell to check for haste buff updates instead of relying on haste rating |
| 00:58.30 | Repo | - Cleaned up melee tooltip a bit |
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| 01:25.05 | mojosdojo| | vhaarr: 1x oRA3-300\modules\Promote.lua:251: attempt to call method 'SecureHook' (a nil value) |
| 01:25.50 | vhaarr | try again |
| 01:26.05 | vhaarr | (I committed, repo is slow) |
| 01:27.05 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r301 modules/Promote.lua: Doh, bugfix. |
| 01:31.41 | mojosdojo| | vhaarr, nope: 1x oRA3-301\modules\Promote.lua:251: Usage: SecureHook([object], method, [handler]): 'handler' - nil, string, or function expected got boolean |
| 01:31.53 | vhaarr | bah |
| 01:32.45 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5.1-13-g9594879 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Version check was not working as intended outside of instances. |
| 01:33.48 | vhaarr | mojosdojo|: again! |
| 01:34.41 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r302 modules/Promote.lua: Hooking is so confusing\! |
| 01:36.59 | mojosdojo| | vhaarr: looks good |
| 01:40.44 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r303 modules/Tanks.lua: Lots of cleanup in the tanks module. |
| 01:51.53 | steev | ugh, i hate pugs |
| 01:53.34 | DWSR | Is there a way to get WA's CVS to automatically populate the ToC with a revision? |
| 01:54.02 | Torhal | CVS? What decade are you in? |
| 01:54.12 | Torhal | Anywho: @project-revision@ |
| 01:54.24 | Torhal | That's handled by the packager |
| 01:54.27 | DWSR | Torhal: I meant VCS. |
| 01:54.36 | DWSR | Sorry, right letters, wrong order. |
| 01:54.39 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 01:55.00 | DWSR | Torhal: What does that return for a git repository? |
| 01:55.17 | Torhal | Oh, yah - doesn't work |
| 01:55.35 | DWSR | Torhal: Is there any way to use a tag? |
| 01:55.44 | DWSR | a branch/tag |
| 01:56.00 | DWSR | Also, are there any other similar @something@ things that you acn do? |
| 01:56.05 | Torhal | @project-version@ |
| 01:56.13 | Torhal | http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ |
| 01:56.17 | DWSR | Thanks |
| 01:57.34 | DWSR | Oh wow. |
| 01:57.37 | DWSR | Some of this is freakin' NEAT. |
| 01:57.38 | Torhal | Yes |
| 01:57.41 | Torhal | The POWER |
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| 01:58.20 | DWSR | :D |
| 01:59.19 | DWSR | But with great power comes great res.....AWESOME! |
| 01:59.26 | Torhal | Hah |
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| 02:05.22 | DWSR | Torhal: Some of these are *boss*. |
| 02:05.32 | DWSR | More badass than heroic lich king. |
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| 02:14.04 | DWSR | Torhal: You versed in git? |
| 02:14.33 | Torhal | I can get around in it - I'm not as versed as some in here, though. |
| 02:15.02 | DWSR | If I want to remove a directory from vcs, but keep it around on the filesystem. |
| 02:15.10 | DWSR | git rm <dir> and then add .git-ignore into the directory? |
| 02:15.30 | Torhal | BAck it up first - I believe git destroys what you tell it to rm |
| 02:16.08 | Torhal | And I've never used ignore - I just manually ignore it. Though I suppose that could be bothersome if you have a lot of shit in there you're not actually tracking. |
| 02:17.30 | Dessa | it should be .gitignore not .git-ignore, i think |
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| 02:21.54 | Repo | 10ora3: 03kandarz * r304 modules/Cooldowns.lua: Cooldowns: Add Talented Army of the Dead CD modifier |
| 02:23.35 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r365 modules/StatusVoiceComm.lua: --profile -> dbx |
| 02:23.58 | DWSR | Torhal: Manually ignore? |
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| 02:31.01 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r33 Broker_LFD.toc: SaveVariables global not per char |
| 02:39.13 | Torhal | DWSR: Yah - I pretend I don't see it in my stage list |
| 02:39.13 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:39.26 | DWSR | lulz |
| 02:41.12 | DWSR | Torhal: git rm does *not* delete the physical files. |
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| 02:55.23 | MysticalOS | opened another ticket about blizz failing at combat log, hope they don't move it to UI forums again :\ |
| 02:55.36 | MysticalOS | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23214252254&postId=232121734059&sid=1#0 |
| 02:56.46 | Torhal | DWSR: Good to know. |
| 02:57.36 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 02:57.49 | DWSR | Lots of stuff that you can put into the ToC file. |
| 02:57.50 | DWSR | Pretty win |
| 02:58.50 | WobWork | DWSR: ponies? |
| 02:59.13 | DWSR | checks |
| 02:59.15 | DWSR | :o |
| 02:59.24 | DWSR | Apparently you can.....THAT'S where GC has been stashing all those ponies. |
| 02:59.28 | DWSR | They're in the ToC files! |
| 02:59.55 | harl | wonder for how much hit rating he should go with his new enhancement shaman (tauren), whether 263 will be enough or trying to reach a bloating 591 and make white damage always hit would provide a greater benefit than adding other damage stats. |
| 03:00.10 | quiescens | 2 |
| 03:00.38 | harl | stares at quiescens. |
| 03:00.43 | DWSR | Hit capping as DW is normally a very bad idea. |
| 03:00.48 | DWSR | You should hit 8% and then go for other stats. |
| 03:00.49 | quiescens | dies. |
| 03:01.03 | DWSR | However. |
| 03:01.08 | DWSR | You could try using Simcraft. |
| 03:01.11 | DWSR | SimulationCraft* |
| 03:01.58 | DWSR | Adys |
| 03:03.37 | harl | hm. will try. |
| 03:06.16 | quiescens | is anyone having trouble seeing the hp of walls lately |
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| 03:06.59 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 03:07.04 | DWSR | They broke the functionality on purpose. |
| 03:07.32 | quiescens | ): |
| 03:07.36 | quiescens | okay then |
| 03:11.20 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7330 Citadel/LichKing.lua: Citadel/LichKing: tweak dispel |
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| 03:13.59 | DWSR | Torhal: I take that back |
| 03:14.05 | DWSR | It definitely removes it all. >.< |
| 03:14.10 | DWSR | Just deleted my Eclipse .project |
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| 03:17.27 | Torhal | DWSR: Ugh. Shitty :( |
| 03:17.36 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 03:17.46 | DWSR | worst part was that git was already ignoring it *as it's hidden* |
| 03:17.56 | DWSR | So yeah. >.< |
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| 03:18.11 | Shefki | Today the African Nation of Zimbabwae invaded Haiti in an effort to gain Haiti's monopoly on world wide aid dollars. |
| 03:18.23 | Shefki | President Zumbaki said "We would have liked to have imported an earthquake but the distance of major fault lines from our country was too large of an impediment." |
| 03:18.34 | Shefki | Aide worker Cirana declared the invasion a major success for Zimbabwae but was concerned for the children of nearby Nigeria who were being ignored still. |
| 03:18.40 | Shefki | President Obama offered Nigeria military aide to invade Tibet in order to get the hollywood sets attention over Haiti/Zimbabwae. |
| 03:19.10 | DWSR | Shefki: Where are you finding this? |
| 03:19.44 | LebQzz | anyone can recommend a good free xml editor.? |
| 03:20.03 | Shefki | DWSR: I came up with it. |
| 03:20.10 | DWSR | ah |
| 03:20.13 | DWSR | LebQzz: Notepad++ |
| 03:20.35 | Torhal | Probably The Onion |
| 03:20.50 | Shefki | No honestly I made it up. |
| 03:21.03 | LebQzz | just remembered an old editor i used... context ;P |
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| 03:23.51 | Ingela | sb|work, check this out: http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Icecrown_Citadel/The_Lich_King/25N/hps/ |
| 03:23.57 | Ingela | come on, i had to brag for someone! |
| 03:24.33 | DWSR | Good for you |
| 03:28.30 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03s8095324 * r261 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet.lua: Arena - Season 7 Set Update |
| 03:31.46 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.0-1.0.1-11-ge7157f5 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+11 commits] (7 truncated) |
| 03:31.47 | Repo | e7157f5: Changed the widths of the columns in the panel list. |
| 03:31.48 | Repo | d3313af: Changed the anchoring of the frames that make up the list panel to be more sane. |
| 03:31.50 | Repo | 4ee87e0: Set a static width for the search_box. |
| 03:31.52 | Repo | 822150d: Removed menu_pane:SetWidth() call |
| 03:33.38 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.0.2 * 1525a18 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.2-1.0.2 |
| 03:35.16 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r305 / (6 files in 2 directories): Nuke the resurrection module, I don't think it ever worked. |
| 03:39.54 | LebQzz | the index in the table.. does it start with 0 or 1? |
| 03:40.04 | pompy | wtf, whoever designed the flight path route of The Bulwark to Light's Hope Chapel musta been high at the time, anyone else notice? |
| 03:40.35 | LebQzz | Pompy some of them are yes |
| 03:41.00 | pompy | it goes west in tirisfal glades and then cuts right back going east |
| 03:41.09 | LebQzz | i know |
| 03:41.21 | vhaarr | LebQzz: 1 |
| 03:41.25 | LebQzz | ok thanks ;P |
| 03:41.32 | LebQzz | just wanted to make sure before i break something ;P |
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| 03:47.20 | vhaarr | ckknight: why can't I access http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-15698/, is it because the project is "abandoned", or have I somehow been explicitly denied access? :p |
| 03:47.55 | Shefki | Project 15698 is a top secret project. |
| 03:48.15 | Torhal | vhaarr: You can't access it in what way? Page error? |
| 03:48.18 | Shefki | That's where ckknight is making his new abandonware. :P |
| 03:48.20 | Megalon | PROJECT ORION OMGOGMOGMMOG |
| 03:48.30 | ckknight | vhaarr: evl marked it as deleted. |
| 03:48.34 | ckknight | not abandoned |
| 03:48.37 | vhaarr | right |
| 03:49.53 | Repo | 10facesmasher (experimental): 03DWSR 07master * f578a1d / (53 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 03:50.08 | Repo | f578a1d: Started FaceSmasher.lua - Main Core. |
| 03:50.09 | Repo | 1b783e3: Remove DDfD src. We don't need that here. Also, fixed ToC and cleaned up some Eclipse cruft. |
| 03:50.11 | Repo | e88388f: Finished all funcs/docs except for those dealing with mutually exclusive buffs. |
| 03:50.52 | DWSR | bbiab |
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| 03:51.38 | Shefki | @project wow/facesmasher |
| 03:51.41 | Repo | Shefki: http://www.wowace.com/addons/facesmasher/. FaceSmasher. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. DWSR (Manager/Author). Updated: 41 hours ago |
| 04:02.56 | Aeyan | There's a lot of those lately |
| 04:03.23 | LebQzz | Project Onion ;P |
| 04:03.49 | Axodious | avr is amazing |
| 04:04.27 | LebQzz | hmm how do i add files to my project? though svn? |
| 04:05.21 | pompy | LebQzz: what client? |
| 04:08.16 | LebQzz | on curseforge.. wow |
| 04:08.34 | Megalon | no, which svn client |
| 04:08.42 | LebQzz | i dont have any atm ;P |
| 04:09.00 | Megalon | then you should probably get one to add files through svn :p |
| 04:09.08 | LebQzz | so it is Through SVN? ;P |
| 04:10.20 | DWSR | Shefki: What do you want to know about my addon for? |
| 04:10.40 | DWSR | and also, why does my project say it was last updated 41 hours ago when I just pushed? |
| 04:13.39 | LebQzz | need some time to realize it? ;P |
| 04:19.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2862 Frame.lua: |
| 04:19.36 | Repo | In GenerateTooltipContent(): Changed skill colorization to be based on comparing the player's skill level with the recipe's optimal, medium, easy, and trivial levels rather than using the optimal only and a comparison of 20, 30, and 40 - yields correct results and is in-line with the recipe difficulty colors in the list. |
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| 04:39.07 | Shefki | DWSR: Was just curious what it was. |
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| 04:39.15 | DWSR | Rotation framework |
| 04:39.24 | DWSR | s/fra/helper fra/ |
| 04:40.36 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03s8095324 * r262 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-CurrencyItems/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-CurrencyItems.lua: Update Emblem of Frost for CurrencyItems |
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| 05:19.28 | Groktar | gently pats nevcairiel |
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| 05:25.50 | DWSR | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/api/ace-addon-3-0/ <-- addon:NewModule() someone want to elaborate on prototypes? |
| 05:29.08 | Megalon | it's used to specify default methods which would be the same for all modules/all modules should have |
| 05:31.16 | Megalon | like in the example, every single module would print 'OnEnable called!' when they are enabled |
| 05:31.54 | Aeyan | chrono |
| 05:32.02 | Megalon | trigger |
| 05:35.33 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v442-68-ge35906f Encounters/Citadel (3 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 05:35.34 | Repo | e35906f: Sindragosa: Add Icy Grip cooldown for phase 2 and Unchained Magic cooldown |
| 05:35.35 | Repo | a0156ce: Sindragosa: Add 25h spellids |
| 05:35.36 | Repo | e9393aa: Sindragosa: Add East East arrow for 25h |
| 05:35.37 | Repo | 83ca5cb: Saurfang: Fix enrage time on heroic modes |
| 05:36.01 | DWSR | Megalon: mkay. |
| 05:36.28 | DWSR | Megalon: Should I embed all of my Ace libs into a single addon object or should I make them all seperate objects? |
| 05:37.02 | DWSR | Or, can I have certain variables that are just references to individual embedded libraries (i.e. local L = MyAddon:AceLocale-3.0)? |
| 05:37.42 | DWSR | Not ALocale specifically, but yeah. |
| 05:51.04 | Megalon | I think you have to do the later for all the non Ace* libs |
| 05:51.43 | Arrowmaster | those arent 'objects' but 'references' |
| 05:53.41 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: It's an object. I realize this is pseudo-OOP, but it's an object. |
| 05:54.33 | Torhal | DWSR: You want to embed for the most part, unless you like explicit "self" references. |
| 05:54.47 | DWSR | I like explicit refer...oh wait. |
| 05:54.55 | DWSR | THOSE type of explicit referenes. |
| 05:54.59 | Torhal | Hah |
| 05:55.05 | DWSR | :D |
| 05:56.36 | DWSR | For AceLocale, I don't have to use :NewLocale(...) if I have files in locale\code.lua? |
| 05:56.47 | DWSR | code being the locale code |
| 05:57.04 | Torhal | You do. |
| 05:57.57 | DWSR | Oh, nevermind. |
| 05:58.09 | DWSR | I'm looking through BT4's source just for a working example on how this works. |
| 05:58.14 | DWSR | I missed "locale.xml" in the ToC. |
| 05:58.15 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: its NOT an object, its not pseudo-OOP at all if all you are doing is local x = LibStub("X") |
| 05:58.45 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: You're not an object. |
| 05:59.06 | Arrowmaster | acelocale is a little different since you normally call more than that and ask it for a specific instance but just about all other libraries arent like that |
| 06:00.05 | Shefki | I object. |
| 06:00.42 | Arrowmaster | if you do 'local gui = LibStub("AceGUI-3.0")' and then make any changes to gui, you are not making changes to a local object but to the global library since you only have a reference to it |
| 06:01.05 | DWSR | Torhal: What's _G = getfenv[0] for? I understand it gets the current global environment, but why would you bother? |
| 06:01.19 | Shefki | Paranoia. |
| 06:01.27 | Shefki | People are more likely to muck up _G than getfenv |
| 06:01.28 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: its to make _G a local so its faster to lookup |
| 06:01.31 | Arrowmaster | er |
| 06:01.37 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: ^^ |
| 06:02.09 | DWSR | Wait....can't you not modify the environment unless you use setfenv |
| 06:02.11 | Arrowmaster | the 'local _G = getfenv(0)' instead of 'local _G = _G' is paranoia but justified imho |
| 06:02.26 | Torhal | DWSR: It's entirely possible to type: _G = nil |
| 06:02.36 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r117 Revelation.lua: |
| 06:02.37 | Repo | In IterTrade(): Runeforging doesn't care about reagents, and numavail will always be -1. Account for this, so that Runeforging will actually work. Also, added comment explaining the existence of the un-used level parameter. |
| 06:02.37 | Torhal | And it will propogate to other AddOns |
| 06:02.53 | Shefki | When you do that George Bush comes to your house with a CIA interrogation team to determine how you could be so dumb though. |
| 06:03.01 | DWSR | Shefki: lies. |
| 06:03.12 | *** part/#wowace Seerah (~Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 06:03.16 | Shefki | Try it if you want to find out what it's like to be water boarded. |
| 06:03.19 | DWSR | Sarah Palin calls you up and asks to go moose hunting with you. |
| 06:03.45 | Shefki | At least you didn't say Dick Cheny. |
| 06:03.59 | Shefki | I'd rather be water boarded than go hunting with him. |
| 06:04.05 | Shefki | Safer. |
| 06:04.08 | DWSR | lulz |
| 06:05.25 | Shefki | Although on second hand, I'm not so sure about hunting with Palin either. |
| 06:05.33 | Shefki | s/hand/thought/ |
| 06:05.57 | DWSR | I'd hunt Palin. |
| 06:06.14 | Shefki | I'll tell you who I'd like to go hunting with, James Brady. |
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| 06:08.22 | Shefki | And with that I have successfully ruined the discussion of the horrors of the global namespace. |
| 06:08.45 | DWSR | hehe |
| 06:08.46 | DWSR | It was funneh. |
| 06:09.29 | DWSR | Is there a way to get the repo packager to automatically generate an XML file listing all of the available translations? |
| 06:09.36 | Shefki | No |
| 06:09.36 | quiescens | the horror~ |
| 06:09.46 | DWSR | This, imo, needs teh codezor. |
| 06:09.49 | quiescens | flees in terror |
| 06:10.02 | Shefki | You have to make the files manually anyway. |
| 06:10.10 | Torhal | Just make a file for every locale, then make locale.xml |
| 06:10.25 | Shefki | Make lots of files, the load bar will love you. |
| 06:10.31 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.3.6 * r118 : Tagging as 3.3.2-1.3.6 |
| 06:11.10 | DWSR | Torhal: Sure, but if the packager can automatically pull in externals, do token replacement and all this other neat shit, why the hell can't it do translation generation? |
| 06:11.26 | DWSR | I mean, the functionality's definitely there. |
| 06:11.56 | Torhal | Because WoWAce/CF have no active developer, and haven't for going on 6 months? |
| 06:12.05 | Torhal | Actually, may already be past that mark |
| 06:12.29 | DWSR | ah, heh. That explains muchly. |
| 06:12.44 | DWSR | Someone really should get around to writing it in. |
| 06:15.17 | Shefki | Someone give me access and I'll probably find the time to do a lot of things. |
| 06:16.36 | Torhal | Shefki: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/?view=yes |
| 06:16.42 | Torhal | Patches go to kaelten. |
| 06:16.44 | Torhal | :D |
| 06:16.52 | Torhal | Hope you like Python! |
| 06:17.25 | Shefki | Torhal: No files. |
| 06:17.46 | Shefki | Ohh I guess the repos are actually populated. |
| 06:17.47 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 06:17.51 | Torhal | Mercurial repos. |
| 06:17.57 | Torhal | Dunno if they're open though |
| 06:18.08 | Shefki | Gonna go with a big fat doubt it. |
| 06:18.13 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:18.39 | Torhal | e-mail Kaelten, then if he thinks it's a good idea prepare for a stack of NDA documents. |
| 06:19.08 | DWSR | Mercurial? |
| 06:19.09 | DWSR | bleh. |
| 06:19.12 | DWSR | I'm really liking Git. |
| 06:19.18 | DWSR | DVCS is win |
| 06:19.34 | Shefki | git is a pain in the butt but has some nice features. |
| 06:19.55 | Shefki | It seems really nice until you manage to screw up a repo and spend 30 minutes figuring out how to fix it. |
| 06:20.31 | DWSR | Shefki: I really don't have that problem... |
| 06:20.39 | DWSR | Then again, I find it's pretty hard to screw up a repo |
| 06:21.14 | quiescens | there are ways |
| 06:21.17 | quiescens | ! |
| 06:21.36 | Shefki | It's pretty spectacularly easy and git won't even say "This may not be such a great idea." |
| 06:23.26 | DWSR | Shefki: Generally you should be able to figure out that it's a bad idea. |
| 06:33.32 | Megalon | git -fisker repo |
| 06:33.34 | Megalon | done! |
| 06:34.00 | Megalon | epitome of fubared |
| 06:35.13 | Shefki | That'd be git fisker repo |
| 06:35.48 | Torhal | git fisker --groktar origin master -m "Oh, fuck." |
| 06:36.01 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 06:38.20 | DWSR | What the hell are namespaces in terms of localizations? |
| 06:38.29 | DWSR | Just a way to organize different strings? |
| 06:38.30 | quiescens | moo |
| 06:39.36 | Torhal | DWSR: Yes. You can have a namespace called "ToC" for your table of contents, and an unnamed (default) namespace, both with a "Title" key/value |
| 06:40.12 | Torhal | So you don't need TOC_TITLE and regular TITLE |
| 06:40.13 | DWSR | nifty. |
| 06:40.16 | Torhal | Or whatever scheme you use |
| 06:40.53 | DWSR | Is it...customary to have localization table keys the same as the phrase in the author's language of choice |
| 06:40.55 | DWSR | ? |
| 06:41.24 | DWSR | (i.e. L["This is an example string"] = true; as opposed to L["example string"] = "This is an example string";)? |
| 06:41.37 | Torhal | Yah |
| 06:41.57 | DWSR | mkay. |
| 06:42.01 | Arrowmaster | its not "author's language of choice" but english |
| 06:42.30 | Arrowmaster | since all the localization libraries assume english is the default language |
| 06:42.49 | Torhal | When you add an English phrase, if you leave the translation portion blank, it will be the same as the key (so it's actually "true" in AceLocale) |
| 06:46.44 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I assume that what the key is doesn't actually matter. |
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| 06:47.03 | DWSR | As long as you are referring to the right thing when you want to use it. |
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| 06:52.23 | orionshock | @describe AutoPartyButtons |
| 06:52.37 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autopartybuttons/. AutoPartyButtons. Smallish Addon that provides a list of Macro Buttons for various Spells to given targets that can change while in group. For ... |
| 06:52.50 | orionshock | ok, so i have a question, what other spells can i add? |
| 07:04.28 | DWSR | mkay all, nighty nighty |
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| 07:11.08 | LebQzz | anyone had the pleasure or blizzard totembar stuff. seem to have a stupid problem that wont go away ;P |
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| 07:26.03 | orionshock | LebQzz what's up? |
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| 07:28.18 | LebQzz | hmm |
| 07:28.45 | LebQzz | on pOW event i move the totembar. summon recall and the 4 buttons to a location |
| 07:29.04 | LebQzz | when i select a new totem bar set(of the 3) then it resets the location to the old place |
| 07:29.38 | LebQzz | ultiCastActionPage1:SetPoint("LEFT", "MultiCastSummonSpellButton", "RIGHT", 10 ,0); <-- have for all 3 pages so it should be at same spot ;P |
| 07:34.16 | LebQzz | cant seem to figure out what moving it back.. what event ;P |
| 07:37.12 | LebQzz | any ideas? |
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| 07:41.04 | Repo | e87485a: Properly format times greater then 60 seconds. |
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| 07:56.01 | orionshock | LebQzz, what's the POW event? |
| 07:56.18 | Fisker | BAM? |
| 07:56.30 | nevcairiel | POW is when you hit someone on the nose |
| 07:57.20 | orionshock | i see... that could be LebQzz problem. when she hits the UI on the nose it still dosn't do what she wants it to ... |
| 07:57.59 | nevcairiel | yeah it doesnt like being punched |
| 07:59.39 | orionshock | nevcairiel, u ever figure out why BT4's totem bar goes all stupid in combat not letting you select another totem from the pop-up? |
| 07:59.55 | nevcairiel | because someone taints it |
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| 08:01.04 | orionshock | hum... i saw some chat with you and another about it.. was wondering if you guys found anything |
| 08:01.58 | nevcairiel | antiarcs cooldown thing caused it at the time, no idea if it was ever fixed |
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| 08:03.54 | LebQzz | PLayer Enter World |
| 08:04.24 | LebQzz | orionshock cause its locked... protected mode |
| 08:04.56 | LebQzz | and i think i found the prob.. theres a 4th layer to making the buttons lol.. i covered 3 ;P |
| 08:05.41 | LebQzz | /framestack |
| 08:05.42 | LebQzz | ftw |
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| 08:06.10 | orionshock | LebQzz, do u use a bar mod? if not i'd recommend BT4, it allows you to move the totem bar |
| 08:06.31 | LebQzz | I'm using my own code ;P modding blizzards built in ;P |
| 08:06.38 | LebQzz | so i dont need Bartender |
| 08:07.01 | LebQzz | BT lacks saving default. no matter what. |
| 08:07.09 | orionshock | ? |
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| 08:07.12 | LebQzz | and they add their own bars ... me no like ;P |
| 08:07.32 | orionshock | what's this "Saving Default" you speak of? |
| 08:07.33 | Shefki | ... |
| 08:07.34 | LebQzz | like Save ActionBar 1 at BottomLeft of Worldframe |
| 08:07.52 | LebQzz | so no matter where worldframe is.. it sticks ;P |
| 08:08.15 | orionshock | ah custom repetitive positioning |
| 08:08.29 | nevcairiel | worldframe ever moves? |
| 08:08.31 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:09.11 | jnwhiteh | who needs that? |
| 08:09.18 | jnwhiteh | hardly anyone moves their worldframe... |
| 08:09.30 | jnwhiteh | there's a reason that UI elements are anchored to UIParent. |
| 08:09.32 | LebQzz | my worldframe moves according to the resolution |
| 08:09.48 | jnwhiteh | and who plays at multiple resolutions with the same UI? |
| 08:09.49 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:10.01 | LebQzz | my laptop and stationary 2 diff res. |
| 08:10.02 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Actually I do that. |
| 08:10.04 | jnwhiteh | Sounds like you have very specific needs that 99% of people don't need. |
| 08:10.30 | nevcairiel | still, even with different resolutions, the worldframe is just stretched to fit the whole screen =P |
| 08:10.36 | jnwhiteh | It was a rhetorical question, I know there are plenty of people who play on diff resolutions |
| 08:10.37 | LebQzz | I dont care much about what other people need ;P i have so many alts and with all mycurrent mods i need to use hours on hours to setup a dam ui so it almost looks good on all ;P |
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| 08:10.43 | jnwhiteh | just dont know why that changes the placement of teh world frame |
| 08:10.44 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Though they're the same ratio so it doesn't really matter. |
| 08:10.54 | LebQzz | WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints(); WorldFrame:SetWidth(980); WorldFrame:SetHeight(650); WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOP", 0, 0); |
| 08:10.57 | LebQzz | not on mine ;P |
| 08:11.05 | LebQzz | i want the black area for all the clutter ;P |
| 08:12.55 | orionshock | laptop and stationary, like an external monitor to a laptop docking station wise? (i have this feeling i'm loosing meaning in translation) |
| 08:13.03 | LebQzz | a little |
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| 08:13.12 | LebQzz | laptop only goes to 1280*800 |
| 08:13.18 | LebQzz | at home 1980*1080 |
| 08:13.23 | LebQzz | so 2 diff resolutions ;P |
| 08:13.30 | orionshock | same computer tho? |
| 08:13.35 | LebQzz | 2 diff |
| 08:13.49 | nevcairiel | ew 16:9 |
| 08:13.49 | LebQzz | actually 3 diff computers.. my Follow pc is 1680/1024 |
| 08:14.01 | LebQzz | 1680*whatever ;P |
| 08:14.41 | nevcairiel | anyway, the resolution usually doesnt matter as long as the ratio is the same (and 16:9 and 16:10 is similar enough for that matter) |
| 08:14.46 | nevcairiel | the UI is fixed-size anyway |
| 08:14.59 | orionshock | so unless your doing a "Global" synch between the computers, you would have 3 static setups. So parenting to the world frame is just more work when it's designed to be parented to the UIParent |
| 08:15.07 | orionshock | and does odd things when you hide the UI Parent too |
| 08:15.50 | LebQzz | well again why use many mods when i have a script that does it all ;P |
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| 08:16.17 | orionshock | game time > messing with addons ? |
| 08:16.19 | LebQzz | my actionbars gets setup properly. bindings perfect for my naga mouse. and the danish layout on my keyboard. |
| 08:16.35 | LebQzz | chatwindow gets moved into place. buffs gets shown correctly |
| 08:16.52 | LebQzz | you know. what 18 mods do. in about 100 lines of code to change blizzxards own stuff |
| 08:17.26 | orionshock | well, my generic response to this is going to be " Why have special snow flakes when you can use the generic ones just fine?" |
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| 08:18.06 | LebQzz | cause when i format. lik ei do from time to time. i dont wanna go though hours and hours of setup. and if i loose wtf config.. I'm doomed. or updates. all over again |
| 08:18.26 | LebQzz | and i like the experience. has fun doing it. |
| 08:18.49 | orionshock | well.. i guess that's what matters in the end ^^ |
| 08:19.35 | LebQzz | god dammit.. totems are the hardest one so far. with the random I hate you leb.. RESET ;P |
| 08:20.08 | LebQzz | on load. its perfect.. select a diff totemset. BAM reset half of it |
| 08:21.00 | orionshock | iirc, frames now use their own unique meta table, so you could secure hook the frame's SetPoint() function and print out the _G.event arg to see when it's being moved ? |
| 08:21.35 | LebQzz | I'm a newbie ;P so that made not much sense ;P |
| 08:22.35 | LebQzz | is there a Show Movers think built in? |
| 08:22.51 | evl | Speaking of noob, anyone figured out how to move the Objectives tracker in 3.3? Before that they had the advanced objectives tracker option |
| 08:22.53 | orionshock | hooksecurefunc( frameRef, "SetPoint", function(...) print("Totem bar SetPoint()", ...); print(_G.event) end ) |
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| 08:23.07 | orionshock | evl, SexyMap does this |
| 08:23.19 | LebQzz | i know sexymap does it.. thats where i got the idea ;P |
| 08:23.32 | LebQzz | oh lol |
| 08:24.01 | LebQzz | hmm 2 mods there own.. thats the sexymap and AdvAchhievmentTracker |
| 08:24.24 | orionshock | hehe, i think i cracked my ISP's bandwidth useage for the month at 63gb + torrents in 1 night |
| 08:24.33 | LebQzz | yhaha |
| 08:24.42 | evl | you still have bw limits? |
| 08:24.44 | evl | australia or? |
| 08:25.28 | orionshock | im in the US, and while there is no $Bandwidth Limits$ there is a "soft cap" of about 70gb per month before they limit you down to ~1.5 mb |
| 08:25.50 | nevcairiel | some providers try to trick you into that here too |
| 08:26.01 | nevcairiel | but you gotta pay attention and not take those offers =P |
| 08:26.02 | LebQzz | hmm do they state that in the contract? |
| 08:26.06 | evl | Haven't had bandwidth limits since '98 |
| 08:26.10 | orionshock | LebQzz, yes |
| 08:26.14 | LebQzz | lol |
| 08:26.17 | nevcairiel | its in the contract, but not big advertised |
| 08:26.22 | nevcairiel | so you have to actually read the thing |
| 08:26.30 | LebQzz | well that is what contracts are for lol |
| 08:26.35 | evl | i pay 50? a month for 100/100 |
| 08:26.37 | LebQzz | polite way of robbing you |
| 08:26.38 | evl | euro* |
| 08:26.46 | orionshock | 70gb in one month for an average user is rather hard to do.. however lot of us in this channel could hardly be described as an "average user" |
| 08:27.07 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: you mean... you really think that contracts are to be read? Don't be ridiculous! |
| 08:27.27 | orionshock | eh, just have to wait for google to get their GB Fiber out here in Arizona |
| 08:27.34 | orionshock | :) |
| 08:27.44 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: was just saying that its hidden in a long contract, and like any other facts, not advertised on the summary page :D |
| 08:27.49 | orionshock | ::crossed fingers hoping:: |
| 08:28.07 | evl | orionshock: there's 45 appartment blocks where I live and one came with 100/100 fiber :D |
| 08:28.37 | orionshock | evl, http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi |
| 08:28.41 | LebQzz | hmm find the thing in the contract.. specific bytes pr month.. |
| 08:28.44 | nevcairiel | i'll switch to either 50/10 or 100/6 some time this year, one is DSL one is cable, not sure what to get yet |
| 08:28.46 | nevcairiel | price is about the same |
| 08:28.50 | orionshock | over 1 gigabit per second, fiber-to-the-home connections |
| 08:28.58 | evl | smud |
| 08:29.25 | SunTsu | I switched from 2/1 to 16/1 last year and still wish that I didn't |
| 08:29.31 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 08:29.36 | orionshock | screw this 100/100, i want that 1gb/1gb :) |
| 08:29.40 | nevcairiel | I'm on 3/.5 now =( |
| 08:29.58 | SunTsu | it's more unstable now |
| 08:30.37 | evl | orionshock: trust me, using up 100/100 is hard enough, I barely have time to take a crap before a 720p movie is downloaded :P |
| 08:30.40 | nevcairiel | my new net connection also involves moving to a new place, so, i'll just go for the best |
| 08:30.53 | orionshock | lol |
| 08:31.42 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: well, people do strange things for bandwidth ;) |
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| 08:32.35 | nevcairiel | i need to move anyway |
| 08:32.42 | nevcairiel | 90 minute drive to work is driving me nuts |
| 08:33.12 | evl | :o |
| 08:33.15 | evl | that is insane |
| 08:33.31 | orionshock | nevcairiel, what no vpn? |
| 08:33.42 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: so work from home office ;)= |
| 08:34.36 | nevcairiel | nah, moving into the city has some other advantages too |
| 08:35.03 | evl | like girls with boobs everywheeere |
| 08:35.10 | SunTsu | on a normal day I too have 90 to 120 minutes, but I like driving, so that's not that big a problem - I normally take sandwiches and tea to go with me, and have brunch on my way to work |
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| 08:35.29 | nevcairiel | thats too much time wasted for me |
| 08:35.32 | Fisker | nevcairiel my friend |
| 08:36.06 | SunTsu | with my new mobile I even can do irc, twitter and stuff :) |
| 08:36.12 | evl | SunTsu: but it' basically yourLifeSpan = 24 - (5 * 4) |
| 08:36.45 | nevcairiel | yeah i dont want to spend 3 hours a day just going to work and back |
| 08:36.50 | nevcairiel | can do other stuff in that time |
| 08:37.13 | evl | like grind rep with bloodsail! |
| 08:37.46 | orionshock | evl, or figure out ways to get lock boxes of the lvl 50 type when your not a rouge... |
| 08:38.01 | evl | orionshock: what achievement? |
| 08:38.03 | SunTsu | evl: I know, but moving there wouldn't change anything because after the move the way to work was short but the way to my friends and hobbies exactly the time that I need to get to work now |
| 08:38.44 | SunTsu | So, no win at all, just that I'd live in a city I despise |
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| 08:41.30 | evl | I'm glad I live in a small city, 4 blocks to work, my most distant family is a 15 min cab ride away :P |
| 08:42.14 | orionshock | evl, insane title |
| 08:42.25 | evl | orionshock: ravenholt? |
| 08:42.42 | orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2336 |
| 08:42.44 | SunTsu | oh, my family is only 15 minutes away, moving to cologne would move them away 90 to 120 minutes - which is the only positive thing in moving there |
| 08:42.58 | evl | orionshock: that is FUCKED |
| 08:43.20 | Fisker | how so evl? |
| 08:43.29 | evl | is there a worse grind? |
| 08:43.42 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:43.50 | Fisker | all pvp achievements lolol |
| 08:45.33 | orionshock | Fisker, i'd rather grind pvp then that achievement. at least in pvp you get some pleasure out of kicking noob in the nutz |
| 08:46.04 | Fisker | i don't :( |
| 08:46.07 | quiescens | so violent |
| 08:48.33 | Fisker | i'd kill you quiescens |
| 08:49.18 | quiescens | ): |
| 08:50.43 | Torhal | stuffs Fisker into a blender. |
| 08:50.48 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: heh, my friends all mostly live in the city already, so thats a plus too |
| 08:51.19 | nevcairiel | besides, hamburg is a nice city :) |
| 08:51.21 | Fisker | do you want to be destroyed Torhal? |
| 08:51.58 | Torhal | Fisker: You are incapable. |
| 08:52.08 | Fisker | you prefer the company of men Torhal |
| 08:52.08 | Torhal | The blender is on puree. |
| 08:52.33 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: yeah, Hamburg is one of the only places I can imagine to live besides the region I currently do |
| 08:52.35 | evl | Is it just me or has the Hardmodes + Gated approach failed hard? |
| 08:52.46 | evl | I have friends raiding so much they're going to need a new liver |
| 08:53.30 | nevcairiel | how does a liver come into play there? |
| 08:53.35 | evl | Clear to boss in 25N, check strat, switch to 25HC, give it a try, switch back |
| 08:53.38 | evl | 3 tries in 7 hours |
| 08:53.40 | evl | WTF :D |
| 08:53.58 | evl | nevcairiel: livers die when you raid hard |
| 08:54.16 | nevcairiel | they do? mmm |
| 08:54.21 | Torhal | The liver thinks "He must be drunk to raid this hard" |
| 08:54.21 | quiescens | I spend at least like, 2 hours raiding per week |
| 08:54.27 | Fisker | i don't see how gating made it worse |
| 08:54.30 | evl | it did |
| 08:54.34 | evl | you can't wipe all night |
| 08:54.38 | Fisker | exactly |
| 08:54.39 | evl | you have to wipe all night on 2-3 raids |
| 08:54.46 | Fisker | naw |
| 08:54.59 | evl | The gated limit on hardmodes should be per account or some shit |
| 08:55.09 | evl | people having 1 main +2 alt raids is clearly not healthy |
| 08:55.14 | nevcairiel | so their problem is that they raid with multiple chars now? |
| 08:55.18 | nevcairiel | well thats their problem then : |
| 08:55.36 | Fisker | Then prior to gating they would just have made the same 60 attempts on the same characters |
| 08:55.37 | evl | it doesn't encourage skill |
| 08:55.38 | quiescens | but then people will just raid with multiple accounts |
| 08:55.39 | Fisker | and even more so |
| 08:55.47 | Fisker | so gating is still better than before |
| 08:56.01 | quiescens | clearly they need to make it a finite number of attempts on a given boss world wide |
| 08:56.14 | nevcairiel | evl: if the number of trys are limited, surely it encourages skill. you cant just throw alot of time at it, you have to make the best of the trys |
| 08:56.18 | Fisker | nah that's stupid quiescens |
| 08:56.34 | evl | nevcairiel: OOPS server lag, 2-3 tries fucked thanks Blizzard |
| 08:56.44 | evl | the server stability dictates gating = retarded |
| 08:56.47 | nevcairiel | that doesnt negate the argument :P |
| 08:57.09 | Fisker | transfer to a lowpop server |
| 08:57.18 | evl | no guarantee they are better anymore |
| 08:57.35 | quiescens | you need to be on a low pop battlegroup |
| 08:57.51 | Fisker | One thing i would like is that instead of offering free transfer for the half year or so they've done for us |
| 08:57.56 | Fisker | Contact a few guilds |
| 08:58.16 | Fisker | tell them they can transfer the whole guild, and not worry about closing, not getting members over, reforming guild, etc. |
| 08:58.16 | SunTsu | quiescens: yeah, then all the "pro" guilds use up the tries for the smaller guilds ;) |
| 08:58.26 | Fisker | Get enough people to transfer -> ??? -> profit |
| 08:59.14 | Fisker | That is basically the only reason why my current and previous guild didn't want to transfer |
| 08:59.25 | Fisker | 1. Stupid lowpop server 2. A bitch to transfer |
| 08:59.33 | evl | they need to fix server stability |
| 08:59.52 | evl | a growing problem just shoved under the rug |
| 08:59.55 | Fisker | server stability is fine |
| 09:00.02 | Fisker | population isn't |
| 09:00.05 | evl | not for the older servers |
| 09:00.12 | Fisker | "older" |
| 09:00.15 | evl | and we pay the same money for every server = equal servers |
| 09:00.48 | Fisker | There is one solution and that is trimming the population |
| 09:00.49 | nevcairiel | i'm on a launch-server and its fine |
| 09:01.11 | nevcairiel | during peak times usually only the outside world lags |
| 09:01.20 | nevcairiel | but i blame that on the world events going on |
| 09:01.31 | nevcairiel | silly db server that manages the inventory is overloaded |
| 09:01.44 | nevcairiel | from those millions of silly love tokens <.< |
| 09:06.23 | evl | i'm on a launch server and it's playable around 2-3 days a week |
| 09:06.51 | evl | "commit to quality" |
| 09:09.11 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r366 Options/locales/frFR.lua: -- frFR thanks Strigx |
| 09:10.30 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Dessa * r332 Bars/General.lua: fix bloodelf racial |
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| 09:12.52 | sb|work | rning |
| 09:12.55 | sb|work | +mo |
| 09:12.57 | SunTsu | evl: what do you deem unplayable? |
| 09:13.06 | evl | SunTsu: 5 second lag on skills |
| 09:13.38 | SunTsu | evl: everywhere, in world, in instances, in raids? |
| 09:13.48 | sb|work | we have that situation in dalaraon - but its there only, servers are stable since restart ~2 weeks ago (no idea what happened there) |
| 09:14.04 | evl | SunTsu: raids mostly, i don't really hs to dalaran anymore unless I want to spend 5 minutes doing anything |
| 09:16.02 | SunTsu | evl: OK, that's tough stuff, yeah, on EU/Nozdormu there were some days with lags in world in the peak hours, but that's it, and Noz seems to be of high population |
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| 09:33.52 | Wobin | ... why have I -not- created a male draenai named Minsc with a pet hamster? |
| 09:34.29 | SunTsu | why would you? |
| 09:34.48 | Wobin | no no.. why -wouldn't- I! |
| 09:35.15 | Wobin | well, one reason would be that I can't stand alliance anymore |
| 09:35.22 | Wobin | so it'll have to be a tauren |
| 09:35.40 | Wobin | but the draenei accent is closer to Minsc's |
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| 09:37.58 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r2563 / (3 files in 3 directories): deDE update, fixed Relentless -> Wrathful Gladi weapons |
| 09:42.15 | Kemayo | Wobin: Lobby blizz to add giant hamsters as hunter pets... |
| 09:44.25 | quiescens | alliance are ebil |
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| 10:32.01 | orionshock | what's the Default Status Bar in wow, anyone know the path for it off the top? |
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| 10:34.40 | nevcairiel | "Blizzard" texture in shared media? :P |
| 10:35.10 | nevcairiel | [[Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-StatusBar]] |
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| 11:44.49 | ThiefMaster | selfish groups ftl.. everybody leaving after killing toravon even though people still need items from the other bosses.. |
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| 11:45.29 | nevcairiel | the groups i've been with usually just do the fire and the ice dude |
| 11:45.33 | nevcairiel | ther other two are just nt worth the time |
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| 11:47.57 | LebQzz | lol according to this chammen.. atlasloot have just been updated |
| 11:48.05 | LebQzz | Curse client dont have it yet ;P |
| 11:49.14 | nevcairiel | maybe atlasloot is configured to not update every change to curse |
| 11:49.30 | LebQzz | ;) |
| 11:49.37 | LebQzz | but I've been waiting for that update ;P |
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| 11:52.25 | SunTsu | then just get that version manually |
| 11:52.55 | SunTsu | maybe you just set curse client to only update to releases and that update is beta or even alpha |
| 11:53.13 | LebQzz | atlasloot-enhanced: Dynaletik * r2563 / (3 files in 3 directories): deDE update, fixed Relentless -> Wrathful Gladi weapons |
| 11:53.16 | LebQzz | what type is that? |
| 11:53.23 | nevcairiel | atlasloot is only configured to package releases |
| 11:53.32 | nevcairiel | you need a svn client to get that |
| 11:53.39 | Gagorian | Just download it manually, problem solved |
| 11:53.44 | Gagorian | @project atlasloot |
| 11:53.45 | Repo | Gagorian: No project found that matches 'atlasloot' |
| 11:53.48 | Gagorian | @project atlasloot-enhanced |
| 11:53.49 | Repo | Gagorian: http://www.wowace.com/addons/atlasloot-enhanced/. Atlasloot Enhanced. Game: WoW. Daviesh (Manager/Author), arith (Author), Celellach (Author), Hegarol (Author), Kurax (Author), Lag123 (Author). Updated: 26 days ago. Tickets: 6/114 |
| 11:53.50 | LebQzz | manual download on site was from 20jan ;P |
| 11:54.01 | LebQzz | curse that it ;P |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | Like i said, its not creating zips for alphas |
| 11:54.14 | nevcairiel | only for beta and release |
| 11:54.31 | Gagorian | Seems so |
| 11:54.40 | Gagorian | Well, SVN it then! |
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| 12:05.28 | Fisker | herro Funkeh` |
| 12:05.36 | Funkeh` | hai thar |
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| 12:16.21 | orionshock | lvl 35 in SM armory, and the pally is ret not prot |
| 12:16.49 | orionshock | who pulls 2.5 groups at once |
| 12:19.46 | olafski | sounds good |
| 12:20.11 | orionshock | ... |
| 12:20.48 | orionshock | stark raving mad comes to mind |
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| 12:32.21 | Adirelle|work | Kemayo, are you there ? |
| 12:33.11 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2564 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 12:33.29 | Fisker | maybe he is |
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| 12:50.39 | olafski | whee druid hit 80 :D |
| 12:53.34 | elec29a | is there no short if form in lua ? |
| 12:57.19 | SunTsu | olafski: congrats |
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| 12:58.40 | olafski | ty.. and wow, I'm not allowed to queue for _any_ heroic |
| 13:01.16 | SunTsu | olafski: what's your average item level? |
| 13:01.54 | olafski | umm |
| 13:02.08 | olafski | 163 according to EG |
| 13:02.19 | olafski | so I guess a bit above that, since it counts greens/blues differently |
| 13:02.50 | olafski | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonblight&n=Druidski :) |
| 13:05.25 | olafski | heh, buying a trollwoven girdle tipped me to heroic level apparently |
| 13:06.08 | olafski | I pity the fool who gets to heal me.. |
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| 13:06.45 | SunTsu | hehe, I hope you don't run into one of those pros that will kick you, because <quote>their time plan for farming badges is at stake because of you</quote> |
| 13:07.13 | olafski | :) |
| 13:07.16 | SunTsu | olafski: I wouldn't tank if I was you, just go along as dps until you have serious tanking equipment |
| 13:07.25 | olafski | meh queue times are long! |
| 13:07.27 | olafski | got into nexus :( |
| 13:07.33 | evl | badges |
| 13:07.36 | evl | who the fuck needs badges |
| 13:07.39 | evl | I need badgers more than badges |
| 13:08.01 | evl | everytime you go on some mad farming spree for badges it takes 2 weeks and your garage is filled with the same kind! |
| 13:08.05 | olafski | 25k hp.. should be possible |
| 13:08.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7331 Citadel/Putricide.lua: |
| 13:08.10 | Repo | Citadel/Putricide: summoned two slime at the same time in heroic(phase change), they need different icons. |
| 13:08.41 | Mikk | LFM random hc, need 5.5k+ gayscore! |
| 13:08.59 | SunTsu | olafski: I started tanking heroics at that hp level, too, and decided to get better tanking equipment because it was PITA |
| 13:09.00 | Mikk | my realm has gone total gearsore nuts |
| 13:09.25 | Adirelle|work | 5.5 ? oO |
| 13:09.34 | Mikk | requiring silly levels of GS to go to like uld10 |
| 13:09.48 | Mikk | you need 232+ gear to get into uld10 groups |
| 13:09.53 | Mikk | oops - 219 drops there |
| 13:10.11 | SunTsu | GS and Achievement... "LFM VoA10, gear check in dalaran, only with clear achievement and experience!" |
| 13:10.29 | olafski | going fine so far suntsu :) |
| 13:10.39 | SunTsu | yeah, because VoA is _that_ hard |
| 13:10.46 | Adirelle|work | hrm, actually, I remember how to avoid GS: get a guild where GM is IRL friend ^^ |
| 13:10.49 | Mikk | and every fool and his dog advertises his gaysore in trade.. "LFG daily hc, mage with 5342 GS!" |
| 13:11.17 | olafski | I'm second in damage done |
| 13:11.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7332 Citadel/LichKing.lua: |
| 13:11.34 | SunTsu | olafski: probably because healer is way over what you need for that instance ;) |
| 13:11.35 | Mikk | is somewhat tempted to accidentally replace the GS repo with math.random(1,9000) |
| 13:11.51 | SunTsu | Mikk: go ahead ;) |
| 13:11.53 | olafski | yeah probably |
| 13:12.01 | wink | it's not called skillscore for a reason! |
| 13:12.07 | wink | *err without |
| 13:13.12 | vhaarr | Mikk: math.random(5000, 9000) please, so people will actually get invited |
| 13:14.01 | Repo | Citadel/LichKing: tweak defile timer for transition. Add missing reaperCD. |
| 13:14.02 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2565 / (2 files in 2 directories): Toravon 10Man stuff |
| 13:14.03 | Repo | 10broker-cma: 03Rabbit * r8 cma.lua: Drycoded top 3 list of addon comm spammers. |
| 13:14.04 | Mikk | damnit damnit damnit the repo is on curseforge |
| 13:14.18 | nevcairiel | i think its not even a repo |
| 13:14.21 | nevcairiel | just a file upload thing |
| 13:14.34 | Mikk | you're right |
| 13:15.01 | Mikk | it embeds ace3 though |
| 13:15.06 | Mikk | has evil thoughts |
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| 13:15.21 | vhaarr | thinks back to the closetgnome glory days with a smirk |
| 13:15.32 | Mikk | has evil thoughts about vhaarr |
| 13:15.38 | SunTsu | I'll join my first heroic with my hunter tonight. ilevel ~ 178 and 1% hit - I'll be surprised if I hit 1k dps at all *g* |
| 13:15.40 | vhaarr | *hides* |
| 13:15.46 | vhaarr | actually, off to work anyway *poof* |
| 13:15.53 | Mikk | serves you right! |
| 13:16.24 | Mikk | SunTsu: yeah because people didn't hit 2k in raids at 70? =P |
| 13:17.35 | LebQzz | SunTsu what spec? |
| 13:18.54 | nevcairiel | I'm still leveling up my warrior, on who i plan to tank some heroics, that will be fun to get going .. probably should really do some non-heroics first to not get the wrath of every player in every group :P |
| 13:19.19 | LebQzz | you got any 80? |
| 13:19.27 | SunTsu | LebQzz: survival |
| 13:19.27 | nevcairiel | sure, multiple |
| 13:19.36 | LebQzz | make some tanking gear for him ;P |
| 13:19.50 | SunTsu | Mikk: yeah, the main problem is the 1% hit |
| 13:20.09 | LebQzz | naa not for Heroics |
| 13:20.28 | nevcairiel | he'll get whatever i have around, should still have some epics boes from naxxramas etc |
| 13:20.28 | LebQzz | what spec are you SunTsu |
| 13:20.44 | nevcairiel | but 232 gear is so easy to get, not worth spending gold on crafted |
| 13:20.53 | LebQzz | crafted 264 gear ;P |
| 13:21.07 | nevcairiel | yeah and who pays for that now? :P |
| 13:21.16 | LebQzz | i have the mats laying around ;P |
| 13:23.22 | nevcairiel | the boots and legs arent that perfect for a new-80, since they have no defense at all |
| 13:23.38 | nevcairiel | and without the tier gear or other fun items, thats lacking |
| 13:24.01 | frontendloader | any of you guys happen to know awk syntax fairly well? |
| 13:24.17 | frontendloader | is there a way to do something like |
| 13:24.22 | LebQzz | Saronite SwordBreakers |
| 13:24.27 | nevcairiel | could get the 245 stuff |
| 13:24.29 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 13:24.33 | LebQzz | heh |
| 13:24.35 | frontendloader | $6 ~ /match/ and $5 ~ /othermatch/ { print $0 } |
| 13:25.01 | nevcairiel | i have both the 245 parts on my DK |
| 13:25.08 | nevcairiel | shouldnt have gotten them back then |
| 13:26.14 | SunTsu | LebQzz: 14:19:27 < SunTsu> LebQzz: survival |
| 13:26.30 | LebQzz | hmm |
| 13:26.34 | LebQzz | i like Marksman more |
| 13:26.49 | LebQzz | they say survival is gd. so you shouldnt be a slacker ;P |
| 13:27.01 | SunTsu | frontendloader: why wouldn't that be possible? |
| 13:29.41 | olafski | suntsu: went fine.. and I got 1 new item ;) |
| 13:29.59 | SunTsu | frontendloader: probably it's "{if ($6 ~ /match/ and $5 ~ /othermatch/) { print $0 }}" |
| 13:30.07 | SunTsu | olafski: congrats again |
| 13:30.36 | olafski | though I did get a little close to dying at times.. particularly while I was stunned by the walking trees |
| 13:31.06 | SunTsu | most of them can be avoided anyway |
| 13:31.15 | olafski | no I mean the patrolling kind |
| 13:31.16 | olafski | the small ones |
| 13:32.02 | SunTsu | er, I tanked nexus up and down, but: they stun? |
| 13:32.15 | olafski | they have some kind of frost shield |
| 13:32.29 | olafski | don't remember being stunned by it before though |
| 13:32.42 | olafski | it does 200 dmg to attackers and has a chance to stun, from what I saw on the tooltip |
| 13:33.09 | SunTsu | I just wanted to ask if you had a hunter in your group :> |
| 13:35.08 | olafski | ;) |
| 13:35.12 | olafski | that's not stun though generally :P |
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| 13:40.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1313 Data/Hunter.lua: - All ranks of Improved Steady Shot give a 15% bonus |
| 13:43.41 | kandarz | How do AceGUI radio buttons work? There doesn't seam to be any documentation on how to group them |
| 13:45.51 | nevcairiel | you have to do the grouping yourself |
| 13:46.49 | frontendloader | SunTsu: && is the operator |
| 13:47.09 | frontendloader | and aparently it does work for the initial matcher |
| 13:47.32 | SunTsu | frontendloader: so my working version here with "and" is a fake? :> |
| 13:47.52 | frontendloader | maybe you have a different version of awk :/ |
| 13:48.36 | frontendloader | I'm talking about the initial matcher, not sure what the proper term is for it |
| 13:48.40 | frontendloader | but theres no need for an if |
| 13:49.24 | frontendloader | '$6 ~ /Frontendloader/ && $1 ~ /(HEAL|DAMAGE|DIED)/ { print $0 }' |
| 13:49.32 | frontendloader | is a legitimate line of awk |
| 13:49.44 | SunTsu | frontendloader: you didn't specifically say which awk you use |
| 13:49.55 | frontendloader | just normal awk as far as I know |
| 13:49.59 | frontendloader | not gawk or mawk |
| 13:50.08 | SunTsu | and with FreeBSD's awk it works quite well with "and" |
| 13:50.20 | SunTsu | GNU awk does not seem to like it, though |
| 13:50.21 | frontendloader | ubuntu's awk |
| 13:50.27 | frontendloader | oh |
| 13:50.29 | frontendloader | its mawk |
| 13:51.10 | frontendloader | slight differences are going to kill me someday |
| 13:51.18 | frontendloader | I can't keep track of all of the different regex engines |
| 13:51.21 | frontendloader | already |
| 13:54.29 | Superfly_ | hm, may I ask, do you know "Arados-Conseil des Ombres"? |
| 13:54.52 | Superfly_ | just checked the the changelog of decursive |
| 13:55.32 | nevcairiel | i know that he is some guy in some spanish realm :P |
| 13:55.44 | Superfly_ | not a big surprise :) |
| 13:56.08 | Superfly_ | the question is what he has done, to get banned from an addon?:) |
| 13:57.08 | Superfly_ | googled that name, but no results |
| 13:57.56 | nevcairiel | you probably have to ask the author |
| 13:58.52 | frontendloader | SunTsu: if I set $0 equal to something I should be able to reference $1, $2, etc according to the field separator I specified right? |
| 13:59.11 | SunTsu | Superfly_: the author said he was treated badly by him and didn't want him to use decursive |
| 14:00.23 | Superfly_ | thanks for the answer |
| 14:00.52 | koaschten_ | wait, so an addon author explicitly make an addon break for a certain person? thats hilarious |
| 14:01.01 | nevcairiel | its nothign new |
| 14:01.16 | Superfly_ | it was for me |
| 14:01.23 | SunTsu | frontendloader: I don't think so |
| 14:01.26 | Superfly_ | but yeah, thats why I asked it :) |
| 14:01.54 | frontendloader | yeah it looks like you can't use $0 like that |
| 14:03.43 | nevcairiel | there was some guy with a pvp addon, who stopped it from working for the opposite faction on his realm |
| 14:04.07 | nevcairiel | and player blacklists have been in numerous addons before |
| 14:04.25 | koaschten_ | preformAV wasnt it? |
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| 14:04.55 | SunTsu | frontendloader: gawk seems to be able to use $0 like that |
| 14:04.56 | koaschten_ | not that it matters, but i consider that "bad" developing. Its not in the spirit of a mod community. |
| 14:05.49 | SunTsu | I don't really think that you should take personal issues onto that level, but each it's own |
| 14:06.21 | nevcairiel | If you want to be cool, just adjust the license that he is explictly forbidden to run it |
| 14:06.23 | nevcairiel | and then sue him |
| 14:06.23 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 14:15.04 | Mikk | gearsore has an embedded list of contributors |
| 14:15.20 | Mikk | donators* |
| 14:15.21 | Mikk | so when you mouse over them it says "Official supporter of GearScore" |
| 14:15.32 | koaschten_ | and then sets GS to "over 9000" ? |
| 14:15.44 | koaschten_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB_k_p57MeQ -> AWESOME |
| 14:16.01 | Arrowmaster | one of the Bang! addons would whisper the author whenever somebody on his realm and faction targeted him |
| 14:16.23 | koaschten_ | way to stroke your ego ;) |
| 14:17.36 | Mikk | koaschten_: uuuuuhhh seriously someone took a chainsaw to the ice there :P |
| 14:17.53 | koaschten_ | doesnt make it less awesome, does it? |
| 14:18.00 | Mikk | except there's no ice to cut half of it out of! |
| 14:18.03 | Mikk | has brainmelt |
| 14:18.26 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.39 | arkanes | Mikk: the internet disagrees, says they're like crop circles for cold people |
| 14:19.00 | Fisker | german koaschten_ |
| 14:19.02 | Fisker | i.e. not awesome |
| 14:19.12 | nevcairiel | and crop circles are just some guys that kill corn in a pattern :P |
| 14:19.19 | arkanes | no wai aliens |
| 14:19.27 | koaschten_ | Fisker german are awesome by definition. |
| 14:19.38 | Fisker | no! |
| 14:19.43 | koaschten_ | we brought the computer to you! |
| 14:19.47 | arkanes | but for real, wikipedia has an article on em that suggests they're made round by rotating in an eddy current, which I find plausible |
| 14:20.10 | nevcairiel | I can understand how it gets to be perfectly round |
| 14:20.17 | nevcairiel | but someone has to cut it lose |
| 14:21.22 | arkanes | ice sheets come loose all the time, though |
| 14:23.03 | arkanes | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114071/Ice-Walker-discovers-10ft-wide-spinning-frozen-arctic-circle-British-waters-time.html |
| 14:23.13 | arkanes | these all look pretty much identical to the video |
| 14:24.48 | arkanes | of course that article also claims theres been ones in scandinavia 600m across |
| 14:24.55 | arkanes | which seems... excessive |
| 14:25.41 | koaschten_ | but to satisfy the Fisker ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPABJd4xos&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:25.45 | koaschten_ | thats more your niveau no? |
| 14:26.07 | nevcairiel | hahahaha |
| 14:26.31 | arkanes | thats pretty funny |
| 14:26.40 | arkanes | odds of sloppy makeouts inside the costume going on? |
| 14:27.34 | nevcairiel | hah there are more of those |
| 14:27.40 | nevcairiel | seems to be a standard move for them |
| 14:27.50 | arkanes | theres some bear mascot that does it too |
| 14:27.53 | arkanes | I guess its a thing |
| 14:29.37 | arkanes | and apparently the bear mascot is my hometown basketball team. I guess we know how much I follow it |
| 14:29.51 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtuSQslya5Y&feature=related |
| 14:31.07 | koaschten_ | hmm damn i am on the clicking spree :( |
| 14:31.08 | koaschten_ | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=959_1265737856 |
| 14:31.10 | koaschten_ | whats worse |
| 14:31.24 | koaschten_ | that someone mount a camera onto his truck and crash into the end of a traffic jam |
| 14:31.36 | koaschten_ | or that later you figure out its a fire engine... |
| 14:32.13 | nevcairiel | that explains the cameras |
| 14:32.23 | arkanes | well the title says bus |
| 14:32.40 | arkanes | and I assumed it meant a city bus or something, which made cameras reasonable |
| 14:33.33 | olafski | steev: DTK went a lot worse.. that dino boss hits _hard_ :( |
| 14:33.45 | nevcairiel | trouble in DTK? wtf? :D |
| 14:33.54 | arkanes | I had that problem1 |
| 14:34.02 | nevcairiel | i had that problem a year ago |
| 14:34.07 | arkanes | last year, when I first started tanking it with my 21k buffed hp :P |
| 14:34.09 | nevcairiel | when we did the acheievement |
| 14:34.19 | nevcairiel | boss + multiple raptors |
| 14:34.23 | nevcairiel | not so much fun |
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| 14:34.31 | nevcairiel | their debuffs work well together |
| 14:34.38 | nevcairiel | one does bleed dmg, the other icnreases bleed dmg :P |
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| 14:35.41 | olafski | nevcairiel: I hit 80 an hour ago, was trying to tank it |
| 14:35.44 | olafski | healing went a lot easier tho :) |
| 14:37.50 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
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| 14:57.42 | steev | olafski: huh/ went worse |
| 14:57.53 | steev | s/\//?\ |
| 14:58.01 | steev | bleh, fail |
| 14:58.05 | steev | s/\//?/ |
| 15:01.07 | olafski | steev: oh, wasn't talking to you about this stuff earlier.. my bad, that was suntsu :) |
| 15:01.17 | steev | ahh hehe |
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| 15:04.32 | SunTsu | olafski: yeah, damage not low, adds + fear |
| 15:04.50 | SunTsu | that can eat up your health quite fast |
| 15:05.38 | olafski | yer |
| 15:05.39 | Repo | 10skada-window-buttons: 03kandarz * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Import |
| 15:05.47 | olafski | I cancelled my fear but the healer didn't, I didn't survive long without heals :) |
| 15:06.07 | steev | did you also have the grevious wound? |
| 15:06.24 | SunTsu | with bark skin + frenzied regen you should be able to hold out, though |
| 15:06.42 | olafski | dunno what I had, went down so fast |
| 15:06.47 | olafski | suntsu: yeah.. but that requires 2 gcds ;) |
| 15:06.55 | olafski | I just got 5 epic gems from 1 transmute :o |
| 15:07.09 | Groktar | creeps up behind Repo |
| 15:07.22 | Groktar | mv Repo dev/null |
| 15:07.31 | nevcairiel | I was wondering if i should change my spec to transmute |
| 15:07.49 | Repo | 10skada-window-buttons: 03kandarz * r3 .pkgmeta: Pkgmeta |
| 15:07.58 | Groktar | has no idea |
| 15:08.00 | arkanes | I made it mine specifically for that reason, and I have only ever gotten 1 proc, on a metagem |
| 15:08.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:08.13 | Groktar | ouch |
| 15:08.21 | nevcairiel | i'm potion right now, but since the damn potion cooldown change, no-one wants any anymore |
| 15:08.22 | sb|work | @describe skada-window-buttons |
| 15:08.23 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/skada-window-buttons/. Skada Window Buttons. Adds more buttons to Skada's Bar Displays, like Recount has. Report Button with GUI Mode Button with Dropdown menu Segment Bu... |
| 15:08.26 | nevcairiel | ever since 2.4 i think it was |
| 15:09.02 | kandarz | sb|work: There's a pretty picture for you if you click the link |
| 15:09.15 | olafski | I rolled a second alchemist just to transmute |
| 15:09.18 | olafski | going to make a 3rd soon |
| 15:09.24 | sb|work | kandarz: yup, nice :p |
| 15:09.30 | nevcairiel | too much effort for just hat |
| 15:09.43 | olafski | well I make about 200g a day with it.. it's worth the 90 minutes it takes for me ;) |
| 15:09.47 | olafski | maybe 2 hours |
| 15:10.03 | SunTsu | I moved from transmute to potion back in BC because transmute _never_ ever procced |
| 15:10.27 | nevcairiel | back in BC people actually used potions |
| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | but now |
| 15:10.34 | olafski | yeah doesn't do very often for me either.. but 5x is nice |
| 15:10.57 | sb|work | SunTsu: well there is no reason to keep potion/elixier if you know someone with that spec |
| 15:11.16 | sb|work | because its unlimited there - transmute is limited to 1 / 20h, so its better :p |
| 15:11.31 | nevcairiel | hm yeah, cant get someone else to transmute your shit |
| 15:11.41 | SunTsu | actually I do, but potions pile up anyway - I seldom need to use any |
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| 15:12.12 | olafski | I use potions a lot too |
| 15:12.13 | SunTsu | so I could go back to transmute - which I normally never do ;) |
| 15:12.18 | olafski | but somehow my potion never gets consumed when I use it ;) |
| 15:12.25 | nevcairiel | i always forget to transmute |
| 15:12.33 | sb|work | i do transmute (gems) every day :p |
| 15:12.38 | sb|work | yellow+red epic gems |
| 15:12.41 | nevcairiel | or then i remember, and dont have mats around |
| 15:12.44 | steev | i use potions all the time |
| 15:12.49 | nevcairiel | and forget again |
| 15:12.53 | SunTsu | I never forget to transmute, I always forget to get the material needed... |
| 15:12.57 | steev | indestructible before the boss, speed at heroism |
| 15:13.40 | SunTsu | steev: I don't raid, and using potions in heroics, well.. |
| 15:14.07 | SunTsu | only if my toon is way too low to be doing what it is doing |
| 15:15.24 | nevcairiel | i always carry those alchemists potions, mostly use them as health potions in heroics, though =P |
| 15:15.44 | nevcairiel | when a tank cant keep shit off me again, or something |
| 15:16.39 | SunTsu | If he can't keep shit from you you better take a shower instead of using potions |
| 15:17.03 | nevcairiel | its big potions, and i pour them over my head |
| 15:17.41 | SunTsu | ah, that makes sense |
| 15:19.07 | arkanes | nevcairiel: you know some things about TVs, dont you? |
| 15:19.16 | nevcairiel | about tvs? like what? |
| 15:19.31 | Repo | 10skada-window-buttons: 03kandarz * r4 SkadaWindowButtons.lua: Fixes |
| 15:19.37 | arkanes | want to spend about $1500 on a new tv and just want to make sure I get a decent deal |
| 15:20.03 | nevcairiel | what size are you looking for? |
| 15:20.13 | mitch0 | math.huge :) |
| 15:20.16 | sb|work | you need ambilight + 200hz (for 3d)! :p |
| 15:20.17 | arkanes | heh |
| 15:20.25 | arkanes | 30 inch or so |
| 15:20.34 | nevcairiel | 1500 for a 30? thats a hell of a tv then |
| 15:20.35 | arkanes | more if I can get a decent one for that price range |
| 15:20.53 | Fisker | why 30 inch? |
| 15:20.56 | Fisker | Need a new pc monitor? |
| 15:21.01 | SunTsu | arkanes: you surely will, 30 inch is quite small |
| 15:21.02 | Fisker | BAM! |
| 15:21.04 | arkanes | well the one i have is 29 :P |
| 15:21.09 | arkanes | so sure, more |
| 15:21.10 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2566 / (5 files in 5 directories): Toralon 25Man |
| 15:21.31 | nevcairiel | i'm personally looking at a samsung right now |
| 15:21.50 | arkanes | oh heres a 46" for 1899 |
| 15:22.05 | nevcairiel | 50" for about 900€, "only" 100hz (which is a enough, really), and all the other fun you can have |
| 15:22.19 | nevcairiel | tbh, its a good offer, its usually going for about 1300 |
| 15:22.30 | arkanes | going to be used for watching DVDs, internet streaming, and gaming, thats it |
| 15:22.41 | arkanes | so super-hi fidelity is not something I really care about |
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| 15:22.59 | sb|work | nevcairiel: get ambilight imo :p |
| 15:23.07 | arkanes | hmm these ones at Frys are much cheaper than the ones I was pricing at wal mart |
| 15:23.08 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 15:23.08 | arkanes | odd |
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| 15:24.09 | arkanes | it has "convenience" listed as a feature |
| 15:24.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:25.13 | nevcairiel | just make sure its a full-hd screen and has good contrast/luminance values |
| 15:25.15 | arkanes | do I want LCD or plasma? |
| 15:25.27 | Repo | 10skada-window-buttons: 03kandarz 04r5-beta * r5 : Created tag r5-beta. |
| 15:26.39 | nevcairiel | a good LCD is more expensive, but superior |
| 15:26.45 | nevcairiel | just dont get a cheap LCD, rather go for plasma then |
| 15:27.47 | Fisker | plasma is fucked anyway |
| 15:27.55 | Fisker | you can burp incorrectly without fucking it |
| 15:27.56 | arkanes | wow, plasma is considerably cheaper |
| 15:28.00 | Fisker | can't* |
| 15:28.02 | arkanes | like half the price |
| 15:28.20 | Fisker | make sure to check resolutions as well |
| 15:29.15 | arkanes | ah good call, i was comparing 720 and 1080 |
| 15:29.48 | nevcairiel | it should be 1080 (aka Full HD) |
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| 15:32.40 | Gagorian | I would buy a Pioneer KURO, which is a pretty kickass plasma. Although at that price you could probably get a LED tv, but since I don't have any experience in those I can't say anything about them. |
| 15:32.43 | nevcairiel | personally i'm still undecided if i should get a 50" plasma or a slightly smaller LCD which costs even more.. silly comelling new techs =P |
| 15:32.49 | arkanes | it's got a 600mhz subfield drive |
| 15:32.55 | nevcairiel | LED TVs are a joke |
| 15:32.59 | arkanes | that sounds like something from star trek |
| 15:33.01 | nevcairiel | they are just LCDs with LED backlights |
| 15:33.24 | nevcairiel | you cant build any properly sized TV in purely leds yet |
| 15:33.43 | nevcairiel | (not for any sane price) |
| 15:33.50 | Gagorian | Well, the biggest issue with LCDs is shitty blacks |
| 15:34.24 | nevcairiel | well sure, thats a bit better with the LED backlights |
| 15:34.38 | Gagorian | I haven't seen a single LCD yet with good blacks, so if I'd buy now I'd probably go for a plasma for deep black and better contrast |
| 15:34.38 | arkanes | how is an LED backlight better than a flourescent one? |
| 15:34.46 | arkanes | do you have a backlight per shutter or somethig? |
| 15:34.49 | Gagorian | I have a Sony Bravia LCD at the moment |
| 15:35.00 | nevcairiel | yeah plasmas have better contrast and better blacks |
| 15:35.18 | nevcairiel | but their luminance can lack sometimes, and they suffer from the burn-in-images .. but thats rarely an issue |
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| 15:35.39 | arkanes | hmm burn in might be a real issue for me |
| 15:35.40 | Gagorian | Tbh, give some technology that doesn't have that many downsides ;) |
| 15:35.47 | arkanes | is that a real problem I need to worry about? |
| 15:36.18 | arkanes | I have kids who like to pause what they're doing and go to someone elses house to play for a couple hours |
| 15:36.25 | arkanes | or days |
| 15:36.47 | nevcairiel | there was some guy on craigslist that was giving away his new plasma tv because his moron friend left a gay-porn on pause over 3 week vacation as a prank :P |
| 15:37.06 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Yeah I remember that :D |
| 15:37.55 | arkanes | some of the comments on thise Kuro sound like audiophile forum threads |
| 15:38.02 | arkanes | having the greyscale professionally calibrated? |
| 15:38.04 | nevcairiel | i dunno, plasma isnt bad or anything, i will probably get one too, jsut because i can get more screen for less money without any serious side effect |
| 15:38.06 | Gagorian | PDP-LX5090H is the model I have in mind |
| 15:38.29 | Gagorian | Well if you want the most out of your TV you should have it calibrated ;) |
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| 15:38.40 | arkanes | should I install special flooring? |
| 15:38.53 | Gagorian | The problem is that the calibration devices cost around 150e, so unless you can borrow one, it's a bit steep |
| 15:39.11 | nevcairiel | having some tv guy come to your house for calibration is probably even more expensive |
| 15:39.21 | Gagorian | Well you can do it yourself anyway |
| 15:39.27 | nevcairiel | if you own that thingy |
| 15:39.35 | Gagorian | And in fact some TVs are calibrated like shit right out of the box |
| 15:39.47 | Gagorian | I had to go to the hidden manufacturer menu to get the RGB balance right |
| 15:40.05 | nevcairiel | i guess if it really looks weird i could always compare to other screens |
| 15:40.23 | nevcairiel | not perfect, but meh |
| 15:40.23 | Gagorian | If it's a popular model there's probably settings lying around on forums |
| 15:40.49 | Gagorian | Although there might be some variance between each individual tv of the same model |
| 15:41.00 | Gagorian | It's still closer to use someone's calibrated values than use nothing :) |
| 15:41.11 | arkanes | can I expect these things to have old school VGA inputs as standard? |
| 15:41.21 | Gagorian | no |
| 15:42.01 | arkanes | man whats up with amazon today |
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| 15:42.35 | Gagorian | You can get 3-4x HDMI's that's about it |
| 15:42.42 | Gagorian | but DVI -> HDMI works fine from your computer |
| 15:43.03 | arkanes | I'm worried about our wii and our netflix box |
| 15:43.04 | nevcairiel | the samsung i'm looking at has VGA and DVI |
| 15:43.24 | arkanes | nevcairiel: what model is that? |
| 15:43.26 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Yeah some models have it but I'm under the impression it's rather rare |
| 15:43.37 | olafski | nevcairiel: lol @ the craigslist thing :P |
| 15:43.44 | Gagorian | Perhaps I'm not completely up to date |
| 15:43.52 | nevcairiel | a wii works with hdmi just fine, fwiw |
| 15:44.03 | arkanes | I don't have an HDMI cable for it |
| 15:44.06 | nevcairiel | also, the PS50B530 .. or one of the bigger models |
| 15:44.09 | Gagorian | Haven't looked at TV's much in the last 6 months |
| 15:44.31 | Gagorian | arkanes: a HDMI cable is the least of your expenses? ;) |
| 15:44.45 | arkanes | Gagorian: I still want it to work with what I've got :( |
| 15:44.58 | arkanes | I might even hook my ps2 up there! |
| 15:45.23 | nevcairiel | you'll have SCART as well :P |
| 15:45.37 | arkanes | oh |
| 15:45.49 | arkanes | hmm I guess I'll need a speaker system too, won't I |
| 15:45.57 | Gagorian | Using SCART is so 5 years ago :( |
| 15:46.09 | olafski | I use component :( |
| 15:46.40 | nevcairiel | well they come with speakers |
| 15:46.43 | nevcairiel | how good they are i cant judge |
| 15:47.09 | arkanes | ah |
| 15:47.14 | arkanes | it was in the "full spec" |
| 15:47.47 | arkanes | whats EPG? |
| 15:48.13 | nevcairiel | Electronic Program Guide? |
| 15:48.15 | Gagorian | Electronig Program Guide? |
| 15:48.20 | Gagorian | g=c |
| 15:48.37 | Gagorian | Basically, you see what shit is on your channels |
| 15:48.37 | Gagorian | :P |
| 15:48.42 | Groktar | nibbles on Gagorian's soul |
| 15:48.48 | arkanes | well, no cable anyway |
| 15:48.58 | olafski | I guess if hdmi looks worse than component my TV is poorly calibrated, right? :> |
| 15:49.12 | olafski | (both coming from a 360) |
| 15:49.22 | Gagorian | Do you have different settings for component and HDMI inputs? |
| 15:49.25 | Megalon | or you shouldn't plug the hdmi cabel in the usb slot! |
| 15:49.29 | olafski | I have no clue gagorian :) |
| 15:49.41 | olafski | it's just that with hdmi things looked "too" crisp |
| 15:49.49 | olafski | maybe I'm just used to the way component looks though |
| 15:49.56 | nevcairiel | hdmi has a higher resolution, is all |
| 15:50.02 | nevcairiel | component is 480p, iirc |
| 15:50.04 | Gagorian | TOO CRISP |
| 15:50.09 | Gagorian | :D |
| 15:50.15 | nevcairiel | the 360 can probably do full 1080p on hdmi |
| 15:50.17 | olafski | as far as I know both inputs can handle the xbox's resolution nevcairiel |
| 15:50.17 | nevcairiel | not sure, though |
| 15:50.28 | Groktar | what nevcairiel |
| 15:50.28 | Gagorian | There is no such thing. The edges need to be so sharp they cut your eyes! |
| 15:50.31 | olafski | or hm. maybe I have it set to 720p |
| 15:50.31 | arkanes | if you're used to the aliasing that upsampling would give, I can see how something might look too crisp |
| 15:50.36 | Groktar | component can do 1080p just fine |
| 15:50.49 | arkanes | or maybe its all wrongs |
| 15:50.52 | Groktar | it's composite that only does 480p >.> |
| 15:50.59 | nevcairiel | don't those silly systems limit the resolution over non-secure links? |
| 15:51.05 | arkanes | Groktar: which one is composite? |
| 15:51.06 | olafski | arkanes: I know what games are supposed to look like on my pc.. they didn't look like that at all with hdmi on tv ;) |
| 15:51.17 | Groktar | the yellow one arkanes |
| 15:51.24 | Groktar | component is the 3 cables |
| 15:51.29 | arkanes | thats the old school yellow/red/white thing? |
| 15:51.33 | olafski | yer I use 3 cables for video and 2 for audio |
| 15:51.39 | olafski | gogo 5.1 sound .. not ;) |
| 15:51.40 | arkanes | right |
| 15:51.44 | nevcairiel | yellow/red/white is composite |
| 15:51.48 | Groktar | yeah, but refers specifically to the yellow |
| 15:51.49 | Gagorian | 1080p over component doesn't necessarily work |
| 15:51.52 | nevcairiel | because red and white are sound |
| 15:51.56 | arkanes | right |
| 15:52.11 | arkanes | so I need those |
| 15:52.14 | Fisker | i sound u nevcairiel |
| 15:52.28 | Groktar | sets fire to Fisker's eyebrows |
| 15:52.38 | nevcairiel | composite is usually what you can use with scart, an adapter comes like with every console :P |
| 15:53.10 | arkanes | yeah my xbox has a thing thats either composite or component |
| 15:53.11 | Fisker | besides no tv for me before xmbc gets gpu acceleration in the windows build |
| 15:53.26 | Megalon | buckles Fisker's coaxial cables |
| 15:53.50 | nevcairiel | Fisker: is your cpu too slow to show videos? oooh :) |
| 15:53.52 | Gagorian | The xbox should be able to put out 1080p(or 1080i at least) through the component output and the cable, but there's no guarantees your TV accepts it |
| 15:54.02 | Gagorian | If you want to use 1080p you're better off using HDMI |
| 15:54.15 | Fisker | no nevcairiel |
| 15:54.29 | olafski | arkanes: my xbox 360 came with component, composite (and I think scart) cables, and a hdmi connection (but no cable) |
| 15:54.33 | Fisker | but it's still a waste of computational power |
| 15:54.41 | arkanes | so theres this Dynex brand that came up on my search and it looks like it has all of the good things but it's a fraction the cost of the samsung ones |
| 15:54.47 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dynaletik * r2567 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:54.48 | Repo | Toralon -> Toravon fix, add his loot to Atlas for Horde players, too. :) |
| 15:54.52 | Fisker | and xmbc handles it poorly when it's cpu rendered so the overall experience is lower |
| 15:54.53 | arkanes | olafski: right, same here, except I don't know what scart is |
| 15:55.02 | olafski | arkanes: scart is a big square connector |
| 15:55.07 | Gagorian | Fisker: ATI or Nvidia? |
| 15:55.25 | nevcairiel | We should just write a new media center for windows and use directshow codecs |
| 15:55.31 | Fisker | there's not gpu acceleration Gagorian durr |
| 15:55.45 | Gagorian | What? |
| 15:55.47 | nevcairiel | ffdshow introduced bitstream gpu decoding in trunk a few weeks ago |
| 15:56.05 | SunTsu | you made it, now I look for a new tv, too |
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| 15:56.25 | Gagorian | You can get GPU acceleration in Win7 with CoreAVC with Nvidia cards at least afaik |
| 15:56.28 | Fisker | What does it matter what my gpu is when there's no gpu acceleration? |
| 15:56.30 | Fisker | DURR |
| 15:56.34 | Fisker | we're talking about xmbc |
| 15:56.37 | nevcairiel | xbmc comes with its own codecs |
| 15:56.42 | Fisker | and wmp already has hardware acceleration anyway |
| 15:56.44 | nevcairiel | which is just plain ffmpeg, afaik |
| 15:56.46 | Gagorian | Who cares about xmbc, if it doesn't work then change |
| 15:56.47 | Gagorian | :P |
| 15:56.52 | arkanes | any time you render to the screen theres GPU acceleration |
| 15:56.54 | arkanes | duh |
| 15:57.02 | nevcairiel | and ffmpeg, being a linux project, can only do VDPAU |
| 15:57.15 | Gagorian | You can't use external codecs with xmbc? |
| 15:57.31 | nevcairiel | xmbc isnt big on configuration |
| 15:57.37 | nevcairiel | xbmc* |
| 15:58.02 | arkanes | ah, the cheap dynex TV is 60hz |
| 15:58.06 | nevcairiel | Too bad i suck at UI design, or i would really go and build a new media center on proper windows codecs =P |
| 15:58.15 | arkanes | while the over twice as expensive samsung one is 120hz |
| 15:58.19 | Gagorian | Don't know about that, as I use MPC HC |
| 15:58.37 | nevcairiel | i do too, but currently i'm not using it on a TV |
| 15:58.56 | nevcairiel | since my tv isnt worth hooking up to the pc <.< |
| 15:59.05 | Gagorian | :C |
| 15:59.29 | Gagorian | I use ATI GPU acceleration, works actually rather nicely once you get it up and running |
| 15:59.33 | nevcairiel | being able to properly navigate around my movies with a remote control might be fun, though |
| 15:59.37 | Fisker | get what up and running? |
| 15:59.41 | Fisker | It doesn't work out of the box? |
| 15:59.43 | Fisker | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM |
| 15:59.57 | nevcairiel | MPC-HC actually ships DXVA codecs |
| 15:59.59 | Gagorian | Well, it might but it doesn't work good |
| 16:00.01 | nevcairiel | should work out of the box |
| 16:00.08 | arkanes | hows the panasonic VIERA line? |
| 16:00.17 | nevcairiel | their codecs are basically just the ffdshow codecs without the config interface |
| 16:00.23 | Fisker | not quite as big as their viagra line |
| 16:01.10 | nevcairiel | sadly my nvidia card doesnt do bitstream decoding of VC1 movies |
| 16:01.12 | nevcairiel | silly nvidia |
| 16:01.34 | Gagorian | The thing that's gay about GPU acceleration is subtitles |
| 16:01.43 | Gagorian | Yeah, they work with a few renderer's but the renderer's suck |
| 16:01.55 | Gagorian | So you need to do post-processing to get the colors right |
| 16:02.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:02.08 | nevcairiel | i rarely use subtitles |
| 16:02.20 | Gagorian | Although since the GPU does the post-processing, it's no extra load on the CPU |
| 16:02.36 | Gagorian | I don't use subtitles unless it's late at night |
| 16:02.37 | nevcairiel | and most stuff i watch is H264 anyway, so i can use CoreAVC, which isnt limited to the other GPU processing limits |
| 16:02.57 | Gagorian | I don't want to bother the neighbours too much |
| 16:03.02 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:03.34 | Gagorian | Doesn't matter if I watch from the computer, but in the living room the 5.1 system can cause quite some noise if the movie has a dynamic soundtrack |
| 16:03.39 | Gagorian | which they nowadays almost always have |
| 16:03.44 | Fisker | want fermi though |
| 16:03.54 | Gagorian | IF you want to hear the speech clearly, the action sounds will blast you away |
| 16:04.04 | Gagorian | And also, blast the neighbours out of their sleep |
| 16:04.27 | Gagorian | So, I have to do some dynamic range compression with ac3 filter during nighttime |
| 16:04.31 | Gagorian | Not perfect, but works |
| 16:04.43 | nevcairiel | yeah i turn that on nights as well |
| 16:05.06 | nevcairiel | but voices are still quite clear most of the time |
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| 16:05.15 | nevcairiel | so no need for subtitles |
| 16:05.15 | Fisker | fermi? |
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| 16:06.09 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Yeah depends, if they've got thick brit accents I usually need a bit more volume |
| 16:06.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:06.33 | nevcairiel | if its a sane 5.1 movie, you can usually just turn up the center speaker a bit |
| 16:06.46 | Gagorian | Yeah I do that too |
| 16:06.48 | Gagorian | Well from my amp |
| 16:06.52 | nevcairiel | most dialogs are in there, anyway |
| 16:07.04 | SunTsu | Gagorian: like "Snatch"? :> |
| 16:07.17 | Gagorian | SunTsu: Like Snatch, or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking barrels |
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| 16:07.51 | wink | rofl |
| 16:07.54 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: Yeah.. I actually have no clue how well the sounds carry over to the neighbours place, but no complaints so far |
| 16:07.59 | wink | or try Shaft |
| 16:08.08 | Gagorian | I like to keep it that way, since I can watch movies at 3-4 am sometimes |
| 16:08.09 | Gnarfoz | slices open Fisker and lets him bleed all over Groktar |
| 16:08.23 | SunTsu | the beginning of Snatch is quite insane, I watched it 12 times over and over again just to recognize that it's english they are talking |
| 16:08.29 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:09.46 | wink | yup |
| 16:10.20 | wink | even in the German translation they made Brad Pitt's voiceover not sound very german |
| 16:10.41 | nevcairiel | ew you watched that in german? |
| 16:10.49 | Megalon | too little SAURKRAUT |
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| 16:11.08 | Gagorian | Every time you watch a dubbed movie, God kills not only one, but three kittens |
| 16:11.12 | SunTsu | wink: it's not Bad Pritt I'm talking about, Jason Statham's opening monologue is quite incomprehendable *g* |
| 16:11.18 | wink | oh rofl |
| 16:11.26 | wink | can't remember, been a few years |
| 16:11.34 | wink | but I watched Snatch in German AND English |
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| 16:14.29 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: wea vü sudat wird net budat :O |
| 16:14.38 | Gnarfoz | does that make any sense |
| 16:14.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:15.02 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:15.18 | Gnarfoz | had a hard time figuring out what it meant yesterday and you weren't here >:F |
| 16:15.36 | quiescens | it means "hello" |
| 16:15.42 | Gnarfoz | (it doesn't) |
| 16:16.16 | quiescens | it might |
| 16:16.25 | quiescens | ): |
| 16:16.35 | Gnarfoz | I'm quite certain it doesn't :D |
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| 16:19.38 | Gagorian | Is that supposed to be German? |
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| 16:19.58 | nevcairiel | its from .at or something |
| 16:20.01 | Gnarfoz | austrian colloquial gibberish |
| 16:21.27 | nevcairiel | man |
| 16:21.35 | nevcairiel | i can google for that and find reference of people using it |
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| 16:21.39 | nevcairiel | but no where is it explained |
| 16:22.18 | Fisker | in b4 austria/australia trolling |
| 16:22.18 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2568 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix for r2566 |
| 16:22.23 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 16:22.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you have to think a bit outside the box to solve it |
| 16:23.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that is, would someone explaining to someone else use the infitive forms of the verbs or the conjugated ones...? ^^ |
| 16:23.47 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: it's actually quite easy |
| 16:23.49 | nevcairiel | "Wer viel jammert, mit dem schläft niemand." |
| 16:23.49 | nevcairiel | Original: "Wer long sudert wird net pudert." |
| 16:23.55 | nevcairiel | wikipedia ^ |
| 16:24.09 | Gnarfoz | hmm, you took a different approach in changing letters, but you still got the result :D |
| 16:24.25 | Gnarfoz | changed sudat to sudan and budat to budan and got erotikforum.at xD |
| 16:24.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:25.53 | nevcairiel | i actually googled for austrian .. hm. whats english for sprichwort? sayings? anyway. |
| 16:25.56 | nevcairiel | and it was in that list |
| 16:26.30 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 16:26.37 | Gnarfoz | that didn't occur to me at all somehow |
| 16:26.57 | nevcairiel | apparetly everyone has another spelling for those |
| 16:27.09 | nevcairiel | nothing was alike |
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| 16:27.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I noticed that, also |
| 16:27.35 | nevcairiel | silly austrians :P |
| 16:28.09 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:28.23 | Gnarfoz | if that's not an australian trout, I'm not hurt |
| 16:31.37 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: still not knowing what that means? :P |
| 16:32.19 | Megalon | thee who complain alot, will get laid.. not |
| 16:32.40 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: if you read the entire scrollback from 10 minutes ago to now, it'd be obvious that I know now and nev even managed to find out another way, too :D |
| 16:32.50 | Gnarfoz | also, I think I managed to kill the WoL uploader |
| 16:33.09 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i wanted to upload last nights log |
| 16:33.13 | Megalon | http://www.ostarrichi.org/ |
| 16:33.21 | Megalon | for austrian <> german translations ;P |
| 16:33.22 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 16:33.23 | Fisker | 15. februar 201017:26Ankommet til 708 Østjyllands Pakkecenter |
| 16:33.25 | Fisker | I > U |
| 16:33.44 | Megalon | you have a comet |
| 16:33.48 | Megalon | in some packetcenter? |
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| 16:36.12 | steev | rofl |
| 16:36.17 | steev | god i miss being on my old server |
| 16:38.14 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/icc-horde.jpg |
| 16:40.19 | steev | maybe ill go back there some day |
| 16:41.04 | arkanes | good lord, the combat text |
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| 16:42.23 | Fisker | wat steev? |
| 16:42.35 | Repo | 10skada-window-buttons: 03kandarz * r6 SkadaWindowButtons.lua: Add window title to report window title |
| 16:42.37 | Repo | Fix channels, don't add General, Trade or LFG (Sorry folks, I don't want to see your meters) |
| 16:44.20 | Megalon | that screenshot needs more comic sans ms |
| 16:45.36 | arkanes | http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/VIDEOS/fire_control_computer_1.html |
| 16:45.43 | arkanes | this pretty cool stuffs |
| 16:47.20 | Arrowmaster | steev: MY EYES |
| 16:48.38 | steev | arkanes: yeah, i don't show any numbers anymore (i still show inc damage/heals though) |
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| 16:53.29 | arkanes | so here's the thing |
| 16:53.57 | arkanes | do you think that, 60 years from now, youtube comments will seem as stilted and as formal to kids of that generation as accents from the 40s and 50s do to us now? |
| 16:54.26 | nevcairiel | language really has to go to hell to be much worse |
| 16:54.40 | genetik- | won't matter, will it? what with 2012 and all.. *snicker* |
| 16:54.57 | arkanes | I dont think I want my grandchildren to live in a world where "o hai guyz" is considered a formal address suitable for ministers of state |
| 16:55.54 | nevcairiel | in the formal sense, language didnt change that much from the 50's |
| 16:57.54 | genetik- | need to figure out immortality or time travel so that i can see how language progresses 100+ years from now |
| 16:58.12 | genetik- | depresses the shit out of me when i think about that |
| 16:58.26 | nevcairiel | thats something you worry about for the future? |
| 16:58.30 | genetik- | oh, no |
| 16:58.36 | genetik- | just one of the things i'm curious about |
| 16:59.52 | digmouse | hmm at lv53, should I grab some quests in Felwood or go straight to Winterspring? BM hunter |
| 17:00.07 | genetik- | felwood's better for questing, in my opinion |
| 17:00.17 | nevcairiel | If i had the chance to find out details about something in 50 years, i would probably more worry how society as a whole evolved, did we actually survive? :P |
| 17:00.23 | digmouse | k, then stay in Felwood |
| 17:00.42 | nevcairiel | i hates felwood, so long ways for so few quests |
| 17:00.47 | nevcairiel | *hated |
| 17:01.06 | genetik- | they're at least hubbed more than winterspring |
| 17:01.19 | arkanes | I read a book some years ago that was about a guy who died of a heart attack, and then woke up as his 16 year old self |
| 17:01.51 | arkanes | and then kept re-living his life over and over every time he died, with the age he was at when he 'woke up' again moving forward a little bit each time |
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| 17:02.20 | Gnarfoz | so he slowly aged |
| 17:02.37 | arkanes | the end of the book was when he "caught up" with himself |
| 17:02.51 | digmouse | like Medivh? |
| 17:03.23 | arkanes | it was relevant because he obviously got very good at life through practice, and ended up changing himself and culture in lots of ways |
| 17:03.51 | nevcairiel | you can change yourself, sure, but culture? nah |
| 17:04.11 | arkanes | he got a sort of pattern down where he became fabulously wealthy early on |
| 17:04.22 | genetik- | fuckin botters |
| 17:04.28 | genetik- | heh |
| 17:04.37 | arkanes | part of the plot was that there were other people experiencing the same thing, and there was this woman he ended up having a relationship with through their various re-lives |
| 17:04.59 | genetik- | arkanes: remember the title? |
| 17:05.05 | arkanes | and she made some sort of movie that I forget the details of that replaced star wars on the popular culture |
| 17:05.11 | arkanes | genetik-: no, sadly |
| 17:05.25 | genetik- | lemme know if you do.. sounds interesting |
| 17:05.40 | arkanes | it might have been a much worse book than I'm remembering, this was 20 years ago or so :P |
| 17:05.54 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 17:05.55 | genetik- | heh.. yeah, there are a few books i know of like that |
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| 17:18.51 | yoshimo | does primordial saronite drop in 10man heroic? |
| 17:22.41 | Fisker | why wouldn't it yoshimo ? |
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| 17:33.52 | yoshimo | neither my lootbrowser nor the db sites show it dropping there, so i was wondering |
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| 17:35.27 | Fisker | then your db sites suck |
| 17:35.28 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 17:36.45 | Megalon | yoshimo: http://eu.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=49908 |
| 17:36.46 | Megalon | :7 |
| 17:36.57 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:37.11 | Fisker | bros for hos Megalon |
| 17:37.25 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:37.28 | Megalon | whazzup |
| 17:37.31 | Fisker | hey kadrahil |
| 17:37.31 | yoshimo | so it does, more saronite, nice ;) |
| 17:37.32 | Megalon | in da hood |
| 17:37.33 | Fisker | umad? |
| 17:37.38 | kadrahil | why would i be mad? |
| 17:37.51 | Fisker | you salpped me :( |
| 17:37.58 | kadrahil | it's just a ping :( |
| 17:38.09 | Fisker | oh yeah Megalon |
| 17:38.10 | Fisker | giev moar flashs |
| 17:38.12 | Fisker | flash* |
| 17:39.23 | Megalon | http://asset.soup.io/asset/0679/8635_2eb4_500.jpeg |
| 17:39.35 | Megalon | er |
| 17:39.37 | Megalon | http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4912/0809181221719608587en4.png |
| 17:39.41 | Megalon | never gets old! |
| 17:39.52 | Megalon | stabs Fisker in the eye |
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| 17:41.26 | kadrahil | fiskers megalon in the eye |
| 17:42.03 | Megalon | rages |
| 17:43.36 | Fisker | hey kadrahil |
| 17:43.38 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
| 17:43.39 | Fisker | hey mitch0 |
| 17:44.17 | Fisker | tomorrow i get packages Megalon |
| 17:44.40 | kadrahil | cool |
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| 17:46.33 | Fisker | you don't get to share my moment |
| 17:46.37 | Fisker | shoos kadrahil away |
| 17:49.24 | yoshimo | if i want to use thunderbird to read the armory rss feed, how can i show characters with special characters? thunderbird messes with the feed url |
| 17:50.56 | Arrowmaster | did you actually try it and it errors? |
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| 17:51.29 | yoshimo | yes blizzard returns |
| 17:51.40 | yoshimo | There are no entries that match the filter parameters. |
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| 17:51.43 | Arrowmaster | because non ascii characters are not allowed in urls |
| 17:51.47 | nevcairiel | its the old problem |
| 17:52.01 | nevcairiel | did you actually click on the link and the armory and copy/paste the link shown in your browser? |
| 17:52.06 | yoshimo | maybe but i imported the feedurl they gave me ;) |
| 17:52.19 | nevcairiel | try using the actual characters |
| 17:54.09 | yoshimo | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-feed.atom?r=Thrall&cn=Samirâ&locale=en_GB is what i copy into thunderbird |
| 17:54.28 | yoshimo | tb has http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-feed.atom?r=Thrall&cn=Samirâ&locale=en_GB after refreshing |
| 17:55.32 | nevcairiel | thunderbird 2 or 3? |
| 17:55.58 | nevcairiel | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-feed.atom?r=Thrall&cn=Samir%C3%A2&locale=en_GB |
| 17:55.59 | nevcairiel | try that |
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| 17:56.14 | nevcairiel | thats what i got when i c/p'ed it into outlook |
| 17:56.18 | arkanes | bah I was just typing that |
| 17:56.38 | yoshimo | tb 3.0.1 |
| 17:57.00 | Pneumatus^ | @ping |
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| 17:57.22 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r118 PT3-RaidLoot.lua: - Re-mine all RaidLoot data. |
| 17:57.35 | Pneumatus | why so slowface, Repo :< |
| 17:57.39 | Repo | pong |
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| 18:08.27 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7.1-3-gcc87804 modules/users.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed an error if bad data was set in the database |
| 18:09.28 | Fisker | ~seen Fisker |
| 18:09.28 | purl | fisker is currently on #sc2mapster (8h 2m 37s) #wowuidev (8h 2m 37s) #wowace (8h 2m 37s) #wowwiki (8h 2m 37s). Has said a total of 114 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Fisker'. |
| 18:09.31 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r155 / (2 files in 1 directory): See if this fixes old unknowns problem |
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| 18:14.17 | mitchnull | heh, creepy how many sites offer "free downloads" of my mod... |
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| 18:15.29 | Arrowmaster | do you use a license that allows them to? |
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| 18:17.32 | mitchnull | yes |
| 18:17.34 | mitchnull | PD |
| 18:17.45 | Pneumatus | mitchnull: there are 2 lines in Bazooka.toc with just a space on the line (10 & 25), any chance you could remove the spaces to stop framexml errors :) |
| 18:18.16 | mitchnull | sure :) |
| 18:19.11 | mitchnull | actually |
| 18:19.27 | mitchnull | that's what left of #@do-not-package@... |
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| 18:20.16 | mitchnull | I have no idea how to fix that |
| 18:20.55 | mitchnull | should be fixed on the packager-side |
| 18:21.18 | Pneumatus | you have a trailing space at the end of those comments |
| 18:21.24 | mitchnull | negative |
| 18:21.32 | Pneumatus | "#@end-do-not-package@ " |
| 18:22.02 | mitchnull | actually, there's a \r probably |
| 18:22.10 | evl | Anyone know what the Unsuccessful attempts frame is called? |
| 18:22.52 | Arrowmaster | mitchnull: why are you using #@do-not-package@? |
| 18:23.02 | mitchnull | still, eol-style is native, so it should just go away |
| 18:23.15 | mitchnull | arrow: does it matter? (same happesn with @no-lib-strip@ |
| 18:23.16 | Pneumatus | there's definatly a space after the last @ :P |
| 18:23.31 | evl | Kinda want to hide it since it's always at 20 of 20 |
| 18:23.50 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r287 Encounter.lua: Updated encounter database for the Lich King encounter |
| 18:24.00 | mitchnull | pneum: ah, found it :) |
| 18:24.17 | Pneumatus | lines 12 and 27 in the source file |
| 18:24.22 | Arrowmaster | mitchnull: well i dont get why the first one is there and the second one is commented out so i dont get why its there either |
| 18:24.55 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r288 HISTORY.html: Updated release notes for release 1.1.4 |
| 18:25.13 | mitchnull | oh, the commented out part is just a bad commit :) |
| 18:25.31 | mitchnull | it's there to be able to work as a straight checkout |
| 18:25.51 | mitchnull | it's commented out 'cos I tested the LoD stuff for the options, and committed it that way by accident |
| 18:26.00 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 18:26.00 | Repo | 10avr (experimental): 03olog * r4 / (13 files in 3 directories): - various bug fixes and minor improvements |
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| 18:27.05 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r289 Rules/RuleEditor.lua: Fix: Set NPC type correctly for NPC conditions |
| 18:27.23 | mitchnull | pneumatus: need a tagged version or the alpha is OK? |
| 18:27.42 | Pneumatus | alpha is fine, framexml errors are just one of my pet peeves ;) |
| 18:28.12 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r290 Abilities/Abilities.lua: |
| 18:28.22 | nevcairiel | i use svn checkouts of everything, i can't escape the errors from embeded libs =( |
| 18:28.42 | nevcairiel | there should be an opposite of no-lib-strip .. something that removes the comments in lib versions! |
| 18:28.46 | Pneumatus | evl: WorldStateFrame possibly, but i can't be sure |
| 18:28.56 | evl | Pneumatus: will try that thanks |
| 18:29.04 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: there is i think |
| 18:29.14 | Repo | Fix: Do not learn beneficial auras removed by NPCs when controlling a player as abilities of the NPC |
| 18:29.15 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r140 Bazooka.toc: fix toc framexml errors |
| 18:29.20 | Pneumatus | @debug@ |
| 18:29.21 | Pneumatus | afaik |
| 18:29.24 | nevcairiel | man why is repo so boring |
| 18:29.27 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 18:29.29 | nevcairiel | broken |
| 18:29.31 | nevcairiel | i mean! |
| 18:29.57 | Pneumatus | oh, actually, @debug@ comments out on packages, so maybe @no-debug@ |
| 18:29.59 | nevcairiel | @debug@ just comments everythign in packages |
| 18:30.41 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can wrap those.. |
| 18:30.43 | nevcairiel | trys |
| 18:31.04 | Pneumatus | @non-debug@ removes a block-comment in a packaged version |
| 18:31.24 | evl | Pneumatus: it's not, /dump WorldStateFrame gives me nothing :( |
| 18:31.56 | yoshimo | evl, what are you trying to do with it? |
| 18:31.59 | evl | hide it |
| 18:32.26 | yoshimo | how about WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame ? |
| 18:32.30 | Arrowmaster | good luck, afaik that thing is a bitch to move or hide |
| 18:32.56 | evl | yoshimo: that worked :) |
| 18:33.01 | Pneumatus | yeh, WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame would be my nxt guess |
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| 18:33.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:33.32 | Pneumatus | WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame not being horizontally centered annoys the crap out of me |
| 18:34.42 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: wait actually i think #@no-lib-strip@ actually removes any existing comments so if you just commit the toc with it commented out it might work |
| 18:34.55 | nevcairiel | i'll try all of those combinations now =P |
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| 18:35.39 | Arrowmaster | tell me if i was right |
| 18:36.03 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v0.6-3-g2b35eaf TestBravo.toc: [+1 commit] Blargh. |
| 18:37.08 | yoshimo | i have player target targetoftarget on the top so the pvpframe is in the way if i dont move it |
| 18:38.00 | nevcairiel | i really wonder why poor repo is so terribly slow |
| 18:38.22 | Arrowmaster | forums.wowace.com is slow too |
| 18:38.56 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03Nevcairiel 07master * v0.6-4-g6198994 TestBravo.toc: [+1 commit] Blorgh. |
| 18:39.05 | nevcairiel | repo started being slow when freenode migrated to the new ircd |
| 18:39.27 | nevcairiel | which doesnt make much sense |
| 18:39.33 | pompy | repo isnt even reporting in #wowuidev-commits anymore... |
| 18:40.13 | nevcairiel | i wish they had the repo sources public too, so i could take a poke at it |
| 18:40.13 | Arrowmaster | repo is stupid anyway, its probably hardcoded for freenode or something |
| 18:40.13 | Arrowmaster | it is public |
| 18:40.16 | nevcairiel | it is? |
| 18:40.21 | Pneumatus | its on the hg repo afaik |
| 18:40.23 | nevcairiel | its using supybot, which should be working |
| 18:40.43 | Arrowmaster | supybot is shit |
| 18:40.46 | Pneumatus | well, the plugin for supybot was on an hg repo somewhere at least |
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| 18:41.01 | Arrowmaster | google for 'supybot excess flood' |
| 18:41.08 | nevcairiel | on that note Arrowmaster, neither did work |
| 18:41.15 | nevcairiel | it doesnt seem to know non-debug in .toc |
| 18:41.18 | nevcairiel | only in xml |
| 18:41.28 | nevcairiel | and lua, ofc |
| 18:41.53 | Arrowmaster | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/repobot/repositories/mainline/ |
| 18:41.54 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: http://hg.curseforge.net/www/repobot/mainline for the repo bot plugin, anyway |
| 18:42.16 | nevcairiel | blargh always hg |
| 18:42.18 | nevcairiel | i dont have that installed! |
| 18:42.32 | Pneumatus | 1) web browser 2) ... 3) profit? |
| 18:42.50 | nevcairiel | if i want to supply fixes, i better give them a clone to pull from, or it wont be done :p |
| 18:44.11 | wink | hehe |
| 18:44.21 | wink | was all so easy when there was only svn! |
| 18:45.03 | arkanes | bitbucket is easy to use |
| 18:46.10 | Arrowmaster | bitbucket is a host not a client |
| 18:47.20 | arkanes | yes |
| 18:47.40 | arkanes | that'd be a way to provide a clone for someone else to pull from, though |
| 18:47.45 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 18:47.48 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/keepers-prio/. Keepers Prio. cody_ (Manager/Author), Gilt000 (Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 18:47.55 | Arrowmaster | we already have our own fucking site |
| 18:47.55 | nevcairiel | i can clone on curseforge anyway |
| 18:47.58 | nevcairiel | just means i have to do that |
| 18:48.52 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_pohbar/. PitBull4_POHBar. Hirnlos (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 18:51.07 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/skada-window-buttons/. Skada Window Buttons. kandarz (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 18:57.00 | nevcairiel | ?ping |
| 18:57.02 | nevbot | pong |
| 18:57.08 | nevcairiel | @ping |
| 18:57.08 | Repo | pong |
| 18:57.27 | Arrowmaster | yours lags more |
| 18:57.51 | nevcairiel | it was still syncing its join or something |
| 18:57.54 | nevcairiel | according to the log anyway |
| 18:58.12 | nevcairiel | @ping |
| 18:58.12 | Repo | pong |
| 18:58.20 | nevcairiel | so repo can actually respond to pings |
| 18:58.23 | Arrowmaster | wireshark it, figure out what the fuck its trying to do when somebody joins a channel |
| 18:58.27 | nevcairiel | just everything related to wowace/CF is slow |
| 18:58.55 | Arrowmaster | i suspect its doing /whois on everybody as they join |
| 18:59.17 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 18:59.25 | nevcairiel | but that doesnt cause the lag |
| 18:59.39 | Arrowmaster | no it causes the retarded excess flood |
| 19:01.01 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 19:01.03 | nevcairiel | gets hg |
| 19:03.22 | Arrowmaster | irc_channels.append(('freenode', '#%s' % (site.name.lower(),), not site.game_id)) |
| 19:03.31 | Arrowmaster | that last part reeks of ckknight lazyness |
| 19:03.39 | Arrowmaster | its supposed to be a boolean |
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| 19:09.09 | Arrowmaster | im trying to figure out if its possible to fix this shitty privmsg handling and get it to actually use cprivmsg |
| 19:12.18 | Arrowmaster | i dont think thats possible since as long as #curseforge is a target of the message, the messages differ because it lists the game name in the messages to #curseforge |
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| 19:12.58 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 19:13.01 | Arrowmaster | really i dont think this is related to the ircd change at all, the website has been slow too |
| 19:13.13 | nevcairiel | but not that slow |
| 19:13.33 | nevcairiel | i can commit 10 things at once |
| 19:13.42 | nevcairiel | and repo takes a 1 min break between announces |
| 19:13.57 | nevcairiel | and how do you explain the #wowuidev-commits breakage? |
| 19:14.04 | Arrowmaster | its got flood protection stuff that i think is going overboard |
| 19:14.19 | Arrowmaster | and yeah the #wowuidev-commits breakage is unexplainable |
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| 19:21.34 | kandarz | I'm no longer getting a new action bar on going Prowl, is there some option I'm not seeing or was this an intentional change? (Default UI, no mods loaded) |
| 19:21.52 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: i think i found a flaw |
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| 19:22.29 | Arrowmaster | kandarz: afaik there has never been a separate actionbar for prowl |
| 19:22.32 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: http://paste.wowace.com/1726/ |
| 19:22.41 | nevcairiel | if that doesnt match anything, it would effectively sleep 60 seonds? |
| 19:22.57 | Arrowmaster | where is that? |
| 19:23.12 | nevcairiel | _get_irc_and_target |
| 19:23.17 | nevcairiel | why the hell is there a sleep in |
| 19:23.36 | Arrowmaster | theres sleeps all over that damn code |
| 19:23.41 | Arrowmaster | its horrible |
| 19:23.43 | nevcairiel | in some parts it makes sense |
| 19:23.44 | nevcairiel | but why there |
| 19:23.57 | nevcairiel | sleeping when sending to irc is fine |
| 19:23.58 | Arrowmaster | unless its multithreaded, it does not make sense |
| 19:24.03 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 19:24.41 | nevcairiel | but sleeping in that loop doesnt make sense |
| 19:24.51 | nevcairiel | since its just comparing a channel name against the internal list |
| 19:25.12 | evl | anyway to target a unit with the stated raid icon? |
| 19:25.22 | nevcairiel | why does it even run that loop |
| 19:25.23 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 19:26.03 | Arrowmaster | because ckknight likes to code while drunk |
| 19:26.18 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar * r59 GridDynamicLayout.lua: GridDynamicLayout: |
| 19:26.19 | Repo | - Fixed a bug where unit info was progressively corrupted during long raids |
| 19:26.21 | nevcairiel | must be some silly timing thing to wait until it joined a channel or shit |
| 19:26.29 | nevcairiel | but it would make sense |
| 19:26.36 | nevcairiel | the time between announces is pretty much 1 minute |
| 19:27.14 | nevcairiel | maybe the multi-threading is broken |
| 19:27.16 | nevcairiel | or whatever |
| 19:27.59 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar 04v1.5.1 * r60 : Tagging as v1.5.1 |
| 19:28.53 | Arrowmaster | wait a sec |
| 19:29.03 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r295 RangeDisplay.toc: fix some framexml errors |
| 19:29.09 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 19:29.14 | nevcairiel | the multithreading is commented |
| 19:29.20 | nevcairiel | its just single threaded |
| 19:29.23 | nevcairiel | and sits there and waits |
| 19:29.26 | Arrowmaster | fail |
| 19:29.33 | nevcairiel | my guess, because it can't find #wowuidev-commits |
| 19:29.46 | nevcairiel | now to figure out, why |
| 19:29.53 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 19:29.55 | Arrowmaster | i think i know |
| 19:30.06 | nevcairiel | is the comparison case-sensitive? |
| 19:30.08 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r56 PetTimeToLive.toc: fix some framexml errors |
| 19:30.24 | Arrowmaster | want to make a bet that it is? |
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| 19:30.59 | nevcairiel | yeah it is |
| 19:31.03 | nevcairiel | fail |
| 19:31.05 | wink | github is awesome |
| 19:31.12 | wink | Member Since |
| 19:31.12 | wink | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.28 | wink | spot the error |
| 19:31.44 | nevcairiel | today is the 15th |
| 19:31.52 | Arrowmaster | blame tekkub |
| 19:31.54 | wink | bingo |
| 19:33.00 | nevcairiel | ok, let me fix that in repo and push to my clone |
| 19:33.34 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r134 CooldownToGo.toc: fix some framexml errors |
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| 19:33.50 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: are you looking at the latest releast of supybot or the latest commit to their repo for the multithreading? |
| 19:34.10 | nevcairiel | oh, no, its disabled in the curseforge plugin |
| 19:34.20 | nevcairiel | it had a function to multi-threaded poll the db |
| 19:34.27 | nevcairiel | but i bet it caused flood issues |
| 19:35.12 | Arrowmaster | oh i see it |
| 19:35.37 | Arrowmaster | and i wouldnt really call that multithreading, its just using another thread to trigger the polling |
| 19:36.54 | nevcairiel | hm true, could easily create a new thread for the handling, though |
| 19:36.58 | nevcairiel | but that would cause flood |
| 19:37.34 | Arrowmaster | now if supybot had proper message queuing and flood protection |
| 19:40.41 | nevcairiel | now to just get Kaelten or ckknight to pull from my clone and reboot repo |
| 19:49.14 | nevcairiel | so the cause wasnt the new ircd, it was just that the channel was re-created all lower cae |
| 19:49.39 | wink | doh |
| 19:52.08 | Megalon | damn you, lowercase |
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| 19:57.03 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: you're not helping persons that are helpless already by posting broken urls for them :D |
| 20:02.22 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprograming |
| 20:02.29 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 20:02.30 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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| 20:02.41 | nevcairiel | programming is spelld with two m :P |
| 20:02.55 | Arrowmaster | i swear the factoid used to be wowprograming then |
| 20:03.51 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 3.0.0-beta-29-gb72bfb4 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 20:03.53 | Repo | b72bfb4: Fix a string-error in the buff module. |
| 20:03.54 | Repo | 10c9f5c: Removed InFlight from the optional deps, too. |
| 20:03.57 | nevcairiel | yay it comes out fast |
| 20:04.15 | arkanes | our vent servers domain name is "progamer" |
| 20:04.28 | arkanes | and its irritating how easily its misread |
| 20:04.41 | nevcairiel | and it even came out in #wowuidev-commits |
| 20:04.54 | Arrowmaster | so who do we get to beat into submission with a wiffle bat for the case sensitive channel name matching? |
| 20:06.24 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-25-g7bef5af / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 20:06.26 | Repo | 7bef5af: Wintergrasp is now considered a pvp zone for the purpose of zone configuration |
| 20:06.27 | Repo | b197ac9: Redid showing party in raid, should work correctly when hiding based on zone configuration |
| 20:06.28 | Repo | cf9787d: Tweaked highlight option ordering |
| 20:09.26 | Megalon | just beat Fisker |
| 20:09.29 | Megalon | and you should be fine |
| 20:09.40 | Megalon | I'll sponsor the bats |
| 20:10.01 | ckknight | nevcairiel: case sensitivity is a harsh mistress |
| 20:10.22 | nevcairiel | not so good in irc |
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| 20:11.15 | Arrowmaster | even worse in irc because of the damn (insert racial slur for finnish people here) |
| 20:11.37 | Arrowmaster | [ and { are considered the same character i think |
| 20:11.47 | steev | finns? |
| 20:12.00 | steev | i don't know racial slurs for finns :( |
| 20:12.07 | Arrowmaster | neither do i :( |
| 20:12.08 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r270 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 20:12.10 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 20:24.37 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-26-g8648f8d ShadowedUnitFrames.toc: [+1 commit] Fixed AceTimer-3.0 being listed in TOC |
| 20:25.28 | Repo | 10shadoweduf-trinkets: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-1-gc9ff668 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed AceTimer-3.0 not being embedded |
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| 20:26.37 | Shades_ | hello all |
| 20:32.55 | Repo | 10shadoweduf-trinkets: 03Shadowed 04v1.2 * 73c2b11 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.2 |
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| 20:34.12 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 04v1.6.1 * 886c48a /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.6.1 |
| 20:35.38 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-27-g69d491a modules/tags.lua: [+1 commit] Added PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED and PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED to auto detect with InCombatLockdown |
| 20:40.50 | elec29a | hi could somone help me i search http://wow.curseforge.com/search/?search=hsc and it find my addon but http://wow.curse.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=hsc dosent |
| 20:42.24 | Arrowmaster | curse takes a while to reindex the search |
| 20:43.02 | elec29a | ok thx :) |
| 20:43.13 | mitchnull | and the search on curse is mostly broken anyway :) |
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| 20:43.34 | Pneumatus | mostly would be an improvement |
| 20:44.39 | yoshimo | i think curse really needs a programmer asap |
| 20:44.41 | mitchnull | I was trying to be polite in case the author/maintainer happens to be around ;) |
| 20:45.16 | Pneumatus | the thought that curse might have a maintainer makes me laugh |
| 20:45.28 | nevcairiel | i dunno where all the people went that worked on curse |
| 20:45.37 | Pneumatus | working on new projects, no doubt |
| 20:45.48 | Pneumatus | everyone knows as soon as something is "complete" it becomes abandonware |
| 20:46.04 | nevcairiel | all the new games they try to push are failures |
| 20:46.12 | elec29a | howto to add version number wowmatrix is taking it from TOC Version and on curse is taking the filenme or is there some better way (yeah i am just a newbie, i dont know) |
| 20:46.15 | nevcairiel | dont need to build pages for them |
| 20:47.10 | nevcairiel | I wonder if there will ever be a game that can really compete with WoW |
| 20:47.25 | nevcairiel | And is not from blizzard =P |
| 20:47.31 | Pneumatus | sc2/d3 will be nice compiments |
| 20:47.33 | Pneumatus | but wont replace it |
| 20:48.20 | nevcairiel | sc2 is a strategy game, you wont play that so excessively for such a long time |
| 20:48.31 | nevcairiel | when its new sure |
| 20:48.44 | nevcairiel | but strategy doesnt keep such a big user base over such a long time |
| 20:48.47 | Pneumatus | yeh, it wont get full-time attention like WoW does |
| 20:48.55 | Pneumatus | d3 may do though |
| 20:49.02 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I predict endless grinds in SC2. |
| 20:49.09 | haste | lol |
| 20:49.23 | haste | you most complete X number of battles to unlock this race. |
| 20:49.34 | Shefki | OMG 2 more games and I can have the achievement for Super Dood. |
| 20:49.38 | Pneumatus | there will probably be an achievement grind |
| 20:49.39 | Pneumatus | ^^ |
| 20:50.10 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 20:50.30 | nevcairiel | d3 will certainly take up its fair share of gametime |
| 20:50.38 | nevcairiel | but it lacks the mmo features |
| 20:50.54 | Pneumatus | d3 will have a gear grind though |
| 20:51.08 | nevcairiel | wonder if it'll be purely based on random items again |
| 20:51.13 | nevcairiel | or take a bit from wow there |
| 20:51.20 | Pneumatus | of the whale |
| 20:51.37 | nevcairiel | purely random + the few uniques, anyway |
| 20:52.12 | elec29a | is it true that there is soon a wow patch for +5%live,damage,healing |
| 20:53.21 | Shefki | There's going to be some sort of buff in Icecrown Citadel. |
| 20:53.25 | Shefki | How much it is who knows. |
| 20:53.58 | elec29a | yes in ICC i heard that stats +5% |
| 20:56.20 | elec29a | (dont kick me just a question i dont do it)do you think that course would see it if i take 1000 proxies and add a proxy rotation cain that is voting me to top and downloading me |
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| 20:57.04 | nevcairiel | we should kick you for even thinking about cheating the system |
| 20:57.30 | elec29a | ok sorry i am a cheater ex cracker,hacker reverse engineer |
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| 20:57.57 | nevcairiel | don't try it, we'll be watching your project now :P |
| 20:58.07 | elec29a | ok :) |
| 20:59.00 | elec29a | but i guess normal sites dont see that google ads did even send me 100$ and 3 days after they closed the check and livetime bann from goole ads |
| 20:59.47 | Arrowmaster | only $100? thats kinda small |
| 21:00.11 | elec29a | yes the first payment but it was only winsocks and a javascript that was klickin in opera |
| 21:00.34 | elec29a | the big work is searching the proxies |
| 21:01.02 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r367 Options/locales/deDE.lua: --deDe thanks Vilogity |
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| 21:01.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 21:01.21 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r368 locales/deDE.lua: --deDe thanks Vilogity |
| 21:02.59 | Shefki | elec29a: Because of the way the points system works in order to make it worth your while you'd have to boost your numbers so high that it would be noticed. |
| 21:03.13 | nevcairiel | also, the point system doesnt care about downloads |
| 21:03.59 | Shefki | elec29a: Further, the amount of points given is fixed and is just divided amongst the participating authors based on installed base. So you'd be hurting every other author. |
| 21:04.44 | elec29a | ok sorry i dont do it |
| 21:05.02 | chiper | holy shit... my wife just found a new flightpath npc in western plaguelands. he apparently went in with patch 3.3 but wasn't in the patch notes |
| 21:05.16 | genetik- | eh? |
| 21:05.17 | NivFreak | chiper: just found him now eh? |
| 21:05.21 | genetik- | you mean the bulwark one? |
| 21:05.22 | NivFreak | at the bulwark |
| 21:05.33 | chiper | no, at the bridge into EPL |
| 21:05.37 | elec29a | but the other question should i add the version number to the filename on course why they cant read TOC version ? |
| 21:05.39 | chiper | goblin |
| 21:05.41 | genetik- | alliance of horde? |
| 21:05.42 | genetik- | or |
| 21:05.58 | chiper | he's on the edge of WPL and EPL |
| 21:06.10 | Arrowmaster | elec29a: are you talking about curse? |
| 21:06.30 | elec29a | yes |
| 21:06.36 | chiper | I read about the bulwark one too. now I'm wondering if there's any others |
| 21:06.44 | Arrowmaster | it only lists the filename, not a version |
| 21:06.50 | NivFreak | bulwark one was in the patch notes afaik |
| 21:06.52 | elec29a | ok thx |
| 21:06.54 | Arrowmaster | you can change what it shows if you want |
| 21:06.58 | NivFreak | I didn't know about the WPL/EPL border one |
| 21:07.13 | nevcairiel | i know about them, but i didnt bother going there and picking it up yet |
| 21:07.20 | nevcairiel | maybe i should :P |
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| 21:07.23 | chiper | NivFreak: no, he's not. I just searched the notes for 3.3 |
| 21:07.41 | genetik- | i wonder why they added one there |
| 21:08.16 | NivFreak | well there isn't a single WPL horde FP :) |
| 21:08.21 | NivFreak | just the bulwark, and that was recent |
| 21:08.37 | nevcairiel | is there a WPL quest hub for horde? |
| 21:08.38 | chiper | genetik: big zones, and if you somehow get hated by the argent dawn you cant use the other FPs |
| 21:08.52 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: bulwark? |
| 21:09.10 | nevcairiel | well that has a flight path now, too, but what is the goblin for then? :D |
| 21:09.18 | chiper | what pisses me off is that I was just questing in WPL/EPL last week. I had to have run right by this NPC three times and I never saw him |
| 21:09.26 | chiper | that could have saved me a ton of running |
| 21:09.54 | NivFreak | people are becoming less tolerant of travel I think |
| 21:09.57 | NivFreak | LFD side effect/ |
| 21:10.06 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:10.14 | chiper | NivFreak: heh, I'd say it's more of a flying mount thing |
| 21:10.20 | nevcairiel | you already have a fast mount in the pest lands now |
| 21:10.23 | nevcairiel | what more do you want |
| 21:10.27 | TNSe | thats an interesting bug at lk :( |
| 21:10.33 | TNSe | people disconnect at start of fight all the time :P |
| 21:10.43 | NivFreak | they want to be teleported to the quest collection location |
| 21:10.43 | chiper | I'm shocked how much faster I'm leveling in outland now that I can fly |
| 21:10.48 | NivFreak | and back to the quest giver |
| 21:11.03 | TNSe | NivFreak, awesome idea |
| 21:11.18 | chiper | no, that'd be terrible |
| 21:11.21 | nevcairiel | chiper: i noticed the same on my alt in northrend, leveling is so much faster flying |
| 21:11.23 | TNSe | they did it for instances, why not for every quest |
| 21:12.10 | nevcairiel | I hope they still limit flying from 80-85 so you have to walk through the world at least once |
| 21:12.31 | genetik- | chiper: you could always have to queue up for a quest |
| 21:12.33 | genetik- | heh |
| 21:12.34 | nevcairiel | or design them as fly-zones |
| 21:12.37 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: they could just design the content in such a way that flight doesn't remove you from the feel ;) |
| 21:12.37 | chiper | it took me two weeks to get from 50 to 60. then in just 8 hours I made it to 65. |
| 21:12.54 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: clearly they will all be underwater quests |
| 21:12.58 | Torhal | nevcairiel: They'll probably have "Azerothian Flying" available at level 80 for $20 from the Blizzard Store. |
| 21:13.00 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:13.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7333 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Putricide. Fix bit flag, deDE update. |
| 21:13.04 | chiper | nevcairiel: I tend to agree, I think making people go through it the hard way once is a good idea |
| 21:13.33 | mojosdojo | Repo is fast now |
| 21:13.40 | nevcairiel | yes, i fixed repo! |
| 21:14.23 | NivFreak | I just like leveling without flyers so I can kill alliance |
| 21:14.27 | NivFreak | fucking NE druids |
| 21:14.36 | NivFreak | shadowmeld -> flight form is fair! |
| 21:14.39 | nevcairiel | hey, leave us alone! |
| 21:15.35 | nevcairiel | not that i would be killed since i'm on a pve realm, but that combination is really useful =P |
| 21:15.37 | chiper | "qq, I can't wtfpwn people before they fly away." |
| 21:15.48 | NivFreak | I'm a prot warrior |
| 21:15.51 | NivFreak | what do you want ;) |
| 21:19.39 | Pneumatus | sb|work: the problem is infest doesnt break my shields so no rapture :< |
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| 21:21.21 | sb|work | hmmm |
| 21:22.49 | Pneumatus | can completely negate it on half the raid though |
| 21:23.00 | Pneumatus | full absorb so it dissapears straight after its applied |
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| 21:36.47 | Pneumatus | sb|work: just had a wipe that i got 33.5k mana back from rapture over 4 mins |
| 21:36.59 | nevcairiel | just wait for the nerf |
| 21:37.02 | Pneumatus | so infest is proccing rapture |
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| 21:39.04 | sb|work | Pneumatus: hm... 25? |
| 21:39.07 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 21:39.09 | sb|work | ah okay |
| 21:39.14 | sb|work | thats the point |
| 21:40.05 | Pneumatus | even with mad rapture im gonna OOM i think :< |
| 21:41.02 | Pneumatus | +defile is gonna mess it up also |
| 21:41.33 | sb|work | defile is bad :P |
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| 21:44.40 | MysticalOS | i heard defile is a buff if you stand in it long enough |
| 21:46.18 | Megalon | if you cover the whole room with it |
| 21:46.23 | Megalon | you'll get sandstormed |
| 21:46.25 | Megalon | and plagued to 1hp |
| 21:46.40 | Repo | 10pitbull4_pohbar (experimental): 03Hirnlos * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): POH.lua |
| 21:46.41 | Repo | PitBull4_POHBar.toc |
| 21:46.43 | Repo | PitBull4_POHBar.lua |
| 21:46.45 | Repo | MapDistance |
| 21:47.57 | yoshimo | @describe pitbull4_pohbar |
| 21:47.59 | Repo | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_pohbar/. PitBull4_POHBar. Adds a bar to Pitbull4 frames that estimates how much a Prayer of Healing would heal based on the groups Position on the Map. |
| 21:48.35 | Pneumatus | Megalon: we nearly covered the platform with it |
| 21:48.44 | Pneumatus | i guess if we had a couple more people in it we would have all got 1up mushrooms |
| 21:49.12 | Torhal | Pneumatus: That's just wrong. |
| 21:49.23 | Repo | 10pitbull4_pohbar (experimental): 03Hirnlos * r4 / (4 files in 1 directory): test |
| 21:49.34 | Pneumatus | we lost a tank so we tried to see how big we could get it |
| 21:51.07 | MysticalOS | blizz ignored my necrotic plague report as usual. Using unit aura's to scan debuffs becuase blizz fails at combat logs is dumb |
| 21:52.02 | yoshimo | MysticalOS they ignored the bql bug with playerpositions too aka not very important problem |
| 21:52.14 | MysticalOS | yeah |
| 21:52.44 | MysticalOS | and some of the other ICC spells not appearing in combat log, like kenetic bomb casts, i think in general 3.3 has been pretty fail with combat log |
| 21:53.07 | MysticalOS | they removed many common player spell casts, omited key spell casts from a few bosses |
| 21:53.30 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.1.4 * r291 : Tagging as 1.1.4 |
| 21:53.43 | Repo | 10broker-cma: 03Rabbit * r9 cma.lua: Only show the top 3 spammers. |
| 21:53.55 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1314 / (13 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:53.57 | Repo | - 2p T9 Hunter: Mortal Shots only apply 15% bonus to serpent sting crits and the meta gem crit bonus is counted spell type (apparently serpent sting crits are classified as spellcrits, but boosted by 50%) |
| 21:53.58 | Repo | - Black Arrow Coefficient corrected to 0.115. Sniper Training bonus seems to be additive. |
| 21:54.36 | arkanes | I'm hoping this is because they have a total combat log replacement internally they're working on, and so they aren't trying very hard to make sure everythign works with the "old" one |
| 21:55.07 | arkanes | because if they seriously have to intentionally add a "add this cast to the combat log" message to every spell, thats a problem |
| 21:55.08 | yoshimo | arkanes, replacement? |
| 21:55.16 | nevcairiel | why would they replace the combatlog again? |
| 21:55.21 | nevcairiel | they just did it shortly before 3.0 |
| 21:55.45 | arkanes | well the one they have now is bad |
| 21:55.49 | arkanes | it doesn't get some spell casts :P |
| 21:55.50 | Gagorian | How so? |
| 21:55.57 | MysticalOS | the current implimentation isn't bad, except when spells for some dumb reason don't show up in it. and there are quite a few of those |
| 21:56.28 | yoshimo | arkanes, there are spells that are hidden intentionally, like visual stuff or things you shouldnt see. Also target/source is nilled on purpose for some spells |
| 21:56.34 | arkanes | in fairness, its more likely that theres a new "don't show this cast in the combat log" they added for some reason and a bunch of things are incorrectly flagged with it |
| 21:56.56 | MysticalOS | pretty much that yeah |
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| 21:57.01 | MysticalOS | but too many are flagged wrong |
| 21:57.15 | MysticalOS | insanity on herald volazj is hidden for example, why? |
| 21:57.17 | MysticalOS | like necrotic plague not firing SPELL_AURA_APPLIED or SPELL_AURA_REMOVED |
| 21:57.40 | arkanes | insanity might be related to the phasing |
| 21:58.00 | MysticalOS | you don't phase until he finishes cast, but it doesn't fire SPELL_CAST_START |
| 21:58.11 | arkanes | hmm it fires something, because my cast bar works |
| 21:58.12 | yoshimo | also, we have to scan the bosstarget for some spells |
| 21:58.26 | arkanes | yeah lots of things don't have targets |
| 21:58.43 | Repo | 10pitbull4_pohbar (experimental): 03Hirnlos * r5 / (4 files in 1 directory): 1 |
| 21:58.48 | arkanes | thats probably intentional in some cases, and a side effect of something being scripted rather than going through normal mechanics in other places |
| 21:58.53 | MysticalOS | yeah defile can be annoying if a tank taunts while he's casting it, it messes up target scanner |
| 21:59.17 | arkanes | LK will swap targets if you taunt during a defile? |
| 21:59.20 | arkanes | thats unusual |
| 21:59.38 | yoshimo | you could scan razorscales target to avoid the big flames until they patched it out, cant see a valid reason why |
| 21:59.41 | arkanes | actually come to think of it, sindragosa does that with frost breath too |
| 21:59.49 | MysticalOS | sometimes the soul reaper CD and defile cD overlap |
| 22:00.07 | arkanes | because OT taunted her off me during the cast time once and she breathed on him and not me |
| 22:00.09 | MysticalOS | so a tank might taunt not thinking twice about screwing up defile warning heh |
| 22:00.31 | arkanes | generally speaking, if you taunt during a channel or a cast they wont swap targets until its finished |
| 22:00.44 | arkanes | but I guess ICC bosses are new and special |
| 22:00.48 | yoshimo | while we are at it, i think combat start and all abilities should have (cl)events, so we dont need yells/emotes to trigger stuff |
| 22:01.40 | MysticalOS | necrotic plague makes me cry. only time it even fires an event is first cast from lich king, next event you see is player taking damage or getting dispelled. no event for it jumping target what so ever |
| 22:02.29 | yoshimo | i havent done LK yet, why would you want to know if it jumps? |
| 22:02.41 | MysticalOS | if it jumps to another player |
| 22:03.12 | MysticalOS | you cannot use combat log to warn that player they got it next, have to use UNIT aura to fire a warning. granted if it jumped to another player and not a shambler you're doing it wrong, but it happens |
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| 22:07.06 | Shefki | MysticalOS: You can use the combatlog it fires a UNIT_AURA_APPLIED. |
| 22:07.19 | MysticalOS | it doesnt |
| 22:07.22 | MysticalOS | not for that spell |
| 22:08.12 | MysticalOS | UNIT_AURA_APPLIED is never fired for necrotic plague, nor is UNIT_AURA_REMOVED, although ironicly UNIT_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE is fired if you manage to get 2 stacks |
| 22:08.40 | MysticalOS | ah wait you said UNIT not SPELL |
| 22:09.03 | Shefki | I meant SPELL_AURA_APPLIED. |
| 22:09.15 | MysticalOS | gonna say CLEU doesn't use UNIT :P |
| 22:09.48 | Pneumatus | sb|work: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6z6edp1iwz1ys1aq/sum/healingDone/?s=5566&e=5854 |
| 22:09.52 | MysticalOS | i've ooked at tons of 10 man and 25 man logs though it definitely doesn't fire that |
| 22:10.04 | Pneumatus | op disc is op, and it makes me smile every time |
| 22:10.17 | MysticalOS | it'll look more like this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=23214252254&postId=232121734059&ST=US-2462707-oID39kLeECa4qiKne9zyrjXKNwrJ7BscEJm |
| 22:11.05 | MysticalOS | i noticed bigwigs worked around problem too with using SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS for lk casting it, and scanning for player jumps. :\ |
| 22:11.27 | Shefki | MysticalOS: Maybe I'm thinking of something else I remember something doesn't have a cast but has the aura events. |
| 22:11.44 | sb|work | nice Pneumatus :p |
| 22:11.57 | MysticalOS | i woudln't be surprised, many spells are missing something or another in ICC |
| 22:12.21 | nevcairiel | MysticalOS: eh, you do realize that if a UI person sees it in the UI forums, they would be more likely to fix it then some bug report forum intern? :P |
| 22:12.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7334 Citadel/LichKing.lua: Citadel/LichKing: bugfix |
| 22:13.09 | nevcairiel | I wish zoot would be still around, could simply tell him and he would fix it |
| 22:13.16 | Shefki | MysticalOS: $ grep 'SPELL_AURA_APPLIED.*Necrotic Plague' WoWCombatLog.txt.1 | wc -l |
| 22:13.20 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.27 | Shefki | It does fire sometimes. |
| 22:13.31 | Shefki | May not be everytime. |
| 22:13.34 | Pneumatus | Ingela: you're ranked 2nd in the world for 25man LK healing on WoL |
| 22:13.45 | MysticalOS | i've never seen it fired, i've only seen it fire DOSE |
| 22:13.48 | Ingela | yeah i know Pneumatus :D |
| 22:13.52 | Ingela | so fawking happy |
| 22:14.17 | nevcairiel | didnt someone say yesterday that those rankings dont make any sense based on some numbers? |
| 22:14.27 | Ingela | server first on the kill also |
| 22:14.31 | nevcairiel | like, a tank being high up in the dps rankings? |
| 22:14.36 | MysticalOS | the Disc absorb number are wrong on WoL for some fights i've noticed |
| 22:14.46 | Ingela | yeah well some poeple are fucking the stats up nevcairiel |
| 22:15.01 | Shefki | nevcairiel: The rankings don't mean anything anyway. People can modify the logs and not everyone posts theirs. |
| 22:15.05 | Ingela | like adding an extra 0 in the end of all their attacks |
| 22:15.09 | Ingela | points at Groktar |
| 22:15.12 | MysticalOS | i know festergut gets screwed up if a feral dps pulls him as bear for 2-3 stacks then dpses rest of fight to pad meters, WoL ranks him as a tank |
| 22:15.21 | Pneumatus | WoL people tend to notice them and nix them though, afaik |
| 22:15.30 | nevcairiel | so do it subtle |
| 22:15.39 | nevcairiel | just change it enough to be 1% better :P |
| 22:15.56 | Ingela | at least i didn't do anything with that log :P |
| 22:16.00 | Pneumatus | can't just increase damage though nevcairiel |
| 22:16.08 | Pneumatus | timestamps will show a long fight, and too much overall damage done |
| 22:16.08 | Pneumatus | etc |
| 22:16.15 | Pneumatus | bosses have known hitpoints after all |
| 22:16.22 | nevcairiel | so build a smart script to reduce others! |
| 22:16.35 | Pneumatus | you'd have to go to a lot of work to fake a log rly |
| 22:16.57 | Pneumatus | oh, you mean keep the same fight duration and leech someone elses's damage done and add it to yours? |
| 22:17.03 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:17.04 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:17.09 | Pneumatus | hah, that would probably work |
| 22:17.25 | *** part/#wowace Shades_ (~Mibbit@84.30.120.191) |
| 22:17.55 | Ingela | but the fight is such a disc fight imo |
| 22:18.03 | Ingela | like whole p1 i roll shields on everyone |
| 22:18.08 | Pneumatus | thats what im doing |
| 22:18.28 | Ingela | our druids didn't get to heal anything and i had 100% mana after p1 |
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| 22:18.48 | MysticalOS | LK is the one fight I'd rathor tank adds on than him. ass doesn't sit still |
| 22:19.07 | Ingela | heh |
| 22:19.14 | nevcairiel | they'll probably do something to nerf disc in the fight then =) |
| 22:19.17 | MysticalOS | he paths worse than auriaya |
| 22:19.41 | Ingela | nevcairiel, wouldn't surprise me |
| 22:20.03 | Kuosi | disc is kinda must have for p4 |
| 22:20.14 | Kuosi | or 5 how ever u take it |
| 22:20.27 | Ingela | you mean the spirits? |
| 22:20.30 | Kuosi | y |
| 22:20.37 | Ingela | how come |
| 22:20.38 | MysticalOS | p1 T p2 T p3? |
| 22:20.46 | Shefki | What MysticalOS said. |
| 22:20.48 | Ingela | nobody almost took damage for us in the spirit phase :S |
| 22:21.09 | Kuosi | absorbing dmg is always better than healing it |
| 22:21.17 | Ingela | yeap, without a doubt |
| 22:21.21 | Ingela | hear that arkanes |
| 22:21.35 | Kuosi | and while infest is no brainer in p1 |
| 22:21.35 | arkanes | hah |
| 22:21.39 | Kuosi | when there's more raid dmg |
| 22:21.44 | Kuosi | it can actually do something |
| 22:21.59 | arkanes | call me when you solo tank heal fester :P |
| 22:23.23 | NivFreak | MysticalOS: I know of a feral tank that does ~8k dmg on festergut, I can even get the WoL parses ;) |
| 22:23.42 | MysticalOS | yeah that's normal |
| 22:24.06 | MysticalOS | feral tank dps is kinda high, especially with bloat |
| 22:24.18 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:24.28 | Fisker | i want to break free |
| 22:24.57 | MysticalOS | feral dps when played right is insane dps. we have one that has a few records that makes even the rogues cry on some fights |
| 22:25.24 | NivFreak | kitty rotation is too hard for me |
| 22:25.41 | NivFreak | maybe I wouldn't suck at it if it was a main ;) |
| 22:26.19 | MysticalOS | i've never tried it, my main is a warrior and alts are a mage and paladin. and well, neither rotation takes rocket science to figure out |
| 22:26.35 | MysticalOS | 2 button rotation on a mage and faceroll on the paladin |
| 22:26.46 | NivFreak | I have a number of alts |
| 22:26.48 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:27.09 | genetik- | only dps class i actually enjoy playing is my spriest |
| 22:27.12 | NivFreak | main has been a warrior since classic |
| 22:27.14 | MysticalOS | 3 that are 80s then others that never got anywhere like a level 60 RoF rogue and 22 RoF shamen. |
| 22:27.35 | NivFreak | I have priest/paladin/rogue/druid/warrior at 80 |
| 22:27.50 | NivFreak | mage/hunter in the 70s |
| 22:27.54 | NivFreak | the rest are 60+ ;) |
| 22:28.15 | NivFreak | with a couple duplicates |
| 22:28.16 | arkanes | I can't dps on anything except my rogue |
| 22:28.21 | NivFreak | rogue is stupid easy |
| 22:28.25 | NivFreak | mute especially |
| 22:28.26 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:28.27 | arkanes | yes I must be bad :( |
| 22:28.33 | MysticalOS | although do to a mage shortage my guild made me play mage during ulduar. so mage got the ironbound not my main. still makes me cry since all my warrior actually needs is one light but we don't do it anymore |
| 22:28.38 | MysticalOS | and ya cant pug it |
| 22:28.55 | NivFreak | buy a yogg0 kill? ;P |
| 22:29.06 | MysticalOS | i'm not that rich |
| 22:29.19 | yoshimo | i doubt guilds will sell it here, they are too busy with icc and hmes |
| 22:30.01 | MysticalOS | my server is terrible anyways. server first yogg 0 is still unclaimed |
| 22:30.13 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 22:30.16 | MysticalOS | grand crusader was only claimed like 1 month ago |
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| 22:30.50 | MysticalOS | very high pop, too many guilds, not enough skill in one place, spread thin |
| 22:31.03 | MysticalOS | high turnover rates as people hop around and no one guild gets good |
| 22:31.12 | genetik- | MysticalOS: sounds familiar |
| 22:31.15 | NivFreak | I think we have 1 yogg0 kill (probably not even a repeat) on ours |
| 22:31.54 | NivFreak | it's sad that they didn't take care of your main after asking you to run an alt |
| 22:32.07 | MysticalOS | we tried yogg 0 a couple times, but "that guy" always got brain linked/malodied etc |
| 22:32.40 | genetik- | i still don't get how people can find a way to spread malady on 10man |
| 22:32.47 | yoshimo | if i have the t104p on a holy paladin, how often should i use holyshock? |
| 22:33.08 | MysticalOS | i don't get it even on 25 man, see a skull on someones head, they are on vent saying "stay away from me" and peope hug them |
| 22:33.24 | WobWork1 | MysticalOS: it's cause he has a skull on his head |
| 22:33.26 | WobWork1 | He must be SAD =( |
| 22:34.09 | Myrroddin | Can I get someone to look at this thread: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17673 and tell me who the last poster is? I see myself, but I got a PM saying otherwise. Just wondering if my browser is bugged... |
| 22:34.26 | MysticalOS | lol it can't be cause of the skull, cause if there is a skull on a target that's the last thing that dies so my guild clearly understand skull as don't touch heh |
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| 22:35.03 | MysticalOS | to give you an impression of that further, our healers run out when we pull plagueworks trash |
| 22:35.25 | NivFreak | Myrroddin: you are the last poster |
| 22:35.35 | Myrroddin | OK, thank you, NivFreak |
| 22:35.39 | NivFreak | np |
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| 22:38.01 | Repo | 10smartres2: 03myrroddin * r82 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:38.03 | Repo | Morgalm's fixes. Should skip last ressed unit when using auto res key, and move on to next dead player |
| 22:38.08 | MysticalOS | hmm, mimiron flames 27.7 is still off by a fraction, gonna have to try 27.65 |
| 22:39.16 | Repo | 10tab-alerts: 03Torhal 07master * f5e474b / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +2 commits] |
| 22:39.17 | Repo | f5e474b: Fixed ignore section of .pkgmeta |
| 22:39.19 | Repo | 16b9b84: Initial commit. |
| 22:39.25 | yoshimo | there was no spell event except dmg for that MysticalOS, was there? |
| 22:40.36 | MysticalOS | no spell event |
| 22:40.59 | MysticalOS | but i have the flames timers nearly perfect on a 27.7 loop and a 3 second delay from combat start and it appears dead on accurate for a while but over time it becomes .05 off per cast i think so one more small tweak should do it |
| 22:41.15 | MysticalOS | i just logged chat and mashed a yell macro every time they spawned |
| 22:41.27 | MysticalOS | then from there tweaked it each time we did da 10 man mount sell |
| 22:42.09 | yoshimo | another example of things we would love to see as cl event |
| 22:42.12 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tab-alerts/. TabAlerts. Torhal (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 22:42.38 | MysticalOS | yeah flames could easily use SPELL_SUMMON like other fights use |
| 22:43.10 | Myrroddin | yoshimo .. when you tried SmartRes2, did the bars change colour for the wrong cast? meaning player x will land first over player y, but x's bar goes red? weird stuff like that? |
| 22:44.18 | yoshimo | i dont know Myrroddin, i just remember that smartres told me all players are alive, when there were a lot of corpses ;) |
| 22:44.24 | Repo | 10tab-alerts: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.0.0 * e8ffcc0 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.2-1.0.0 |
| 22:44.33 | arkanes | Myrroddin: flames are an example of the sort of thing they'd intentionally not put in the log, I'd think |
| 22:44.44 | arkanes | MysticalOS: ^ |
| 22:44.46 | MysticalOS | probably |
| 22:44.51 | MysticalOS | i'm sure that one is intentional |
| 22:44.53 | Myrroddin | yoshimo yeah, i got that too after you told me. apparently r82 fixes the "pile o' bodies" issue :P |
| 22:44.53 | yoshimo | arkanes, i think that too |
| 22:45.04 | MysticalOS | i actually enjoyed the challenge of adding a flames timer |
| 22:45.34 | MysticalOS | even if i did look like a retard on a mount sell yelling TIMESTAMP every 27 seconds |
| 22:45.40 | yoshimo | did you add a next injection on rotface too? |
| 22:45.50 | MysticalOS | no |
| 22:46.01 | yoshimo | it speeds up doesnt it? |
| 22:46.05 | MysticalOS | rotface injection rate increases as his health lowers |
| 22:46.15 | Myrroddin | arkanes .... flames, huh? am i on fire and didn't get the memo? |
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| 22:46.53 | MysticalOS | about all I added to rotface is a BIG ass warning if a slime melees you, since the warning that you have injecgtion never seemed like enough |
| 22:46.57 | yoshimo | MysticalOS i heard it speeds up based on how often he casted it |
| 22:47.10 | MysticalOS | that way if someone is standing in raid with a slime they will get spammed EVERY melee swing to get the hell out |
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| 22:48.06 | MysticalOS | 10 man and 25 man also have different rates, as blizz themselves hotfixed 10 man at a ponit because the rate at which it increases was too high for 10 man (it was using 25 mans rate) |
| 22:48.22 | arkanes | I thought they dropped his health but left the rate alone |
| 22:48.26 | MysticalOS | and blizz was also quoted saying something about the rate affected by 30% |
| 22:48.48 | MysticalOS | thought they did both i'd have to look at fix archive tho |
| 22:49.28 | MysticalOS | it's not a hard boss anyways. although fi you want to get a raid leader to rage, have like 10 people pull out toxic wastlings |
| 22:49.42 | MysticalOS | good times |
| 22:49.53 | arkanes | it gets crazy at the end |
| 22:50.01 | arkanes | we still have trouble with it sometimes, getting better though |
| 22:50.40 | MysticalOS | we have no issue with a normal kill, but the idea of doing 25 man dances with oozes we'll probably wait for the zone buff vs screwing around with that sillyness |
| 22:52.05 | yoshimo | whats special about toxic wastlings? i havent seen one yet |
| 22:52.36 | Gagorian | What's up with Spanish translators.. translated Average into Maximum in Spanish |
| 22:53.05 | MysticalOS | if you pull out a toxic wastling, and let it each critters, it's same size and color of the slimes on rotface |
| 22:53.13 | MysticalOS | it literally looks like slimes in the raid |
| 22:53.16 | Gagorian | That sure would make the tooltips mighty confusing |
| 22:53.28 | Thrae | The Toxic Wasteling is a rather rare drop from Apoc. Hummel, the "Love is in the Air" event boss. |
| 22:53.56 | MysticalOS | they were totally made for screwing with raid leaders on rotface |
| 22:54.28 | yoshimo | i loved the phase when the onyxian whelpling made bossmods go mental ;) "onyxian whelpling takes a deep breath" :D |
| 22:54.43 | MysticalOS | almost as fun as using boot iron flasks and dropping mole machines on razorscale |
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| 22:55.25 | MysticalOS | i don't even know why they coded it to use emote to begin with, when i do a mod i alawys avoid locals as much as possible and use spellids |
| 22:55.34 | Thrae | The rehash of the "Love is in the Air" event has a lot of very interesting items and acheivements to come by, unlike the Lunar Festival which is...well, *just* festive and the acheivements are more of a grind. |
| 22:55.42 | MysticalOS | even LK i fire phase changes using winter and quake |
| 22:55.46 | elec29a | gagorian: use http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html thats the best i know works even fine with chinese |
| 22:56.13 | MysticalOS | i will have to fix putricide though as i used tear gas to fire phase changes but he doesn't tear gas in heroic |
| 22:56.20 | yoshimo | MysticalOS, because they ported the old classic mod to the new core and back then we didnt have spellids |
| 22:56.36 | MysticalOS | ah |
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| 22:57.59 | MysticalOS | just sucks without anyone else raiding I'm practically doing all the ICC mods solo now, i get more help from the translators than other authors. our russion translator has exceptional code sense, which is rare concidering our average translator just breaks things |
| 22:58.52 | yoshimo | translators breaking stuff is nothing unusual |
| 22:59.12 | MysticalOS | it hasn't happened in a while though, he hard coded a very strict syntax checker into svn |
| 22:59.21 | MysticalOS | it's even kept me from commiting broken stuff |
| 23:00.30 | MysticalOS | too bad the syntax checker can't tell you when you accidentally put the ghoul spell id in the shambling horror warning |
| 23:01.47 | yoshimo | well, you have a brain, havent you=?^^ |
| 23:02.32 | MysticalOS | i drycoded that complete mod in a single night for most part, not even having seen a combat log or the fight, timers were all screwed up and some of the warnings fired at wrong times. good times. i had to clean that mess up first time i saw fight |
| 23:07.05 | Gagorian | yoshimo: Yeah, but the most annoying thing is if someone translates something completely wrong, I have no way of knowing it unless I actually know the language somewhat |
| 23:07.11 | Gagorian | For chinese and whatnot I don't really care |
| 23:07.24 | Gagorian | But would be nice to have the european languages at least somewhat correct |
| 23:07.39 | Gagorian | It's not like English to your own native tongue should be an impossible task |
| 23:08.08 | yoshimo | it shouldnt |
| 23:08.22 | yoshimo | if its your native language |
| 23:08.37 | MysticalOS | i hate when translators don't understnad what string matches are, and they translate boss emotes/yells instead of taking them from client |
| 23:09.02 | MysticalOS | i'd say more than half of the emotes/strings in translations are wrongly stranslated |
| 23:09.34 | MysticalOS | which is the precise reason i write in a sync for every function that uses a local, so if there is at least ONE english client in raid, the rest of the raid will get their warnings:\ |
| 23:10.02 | MysticalOS | even though syncing when it's not nessesary is lame. it's kinda the only work around to bad translators/no translators |
| 23:10.44 | MysticalOS | i have found there is very often at least one english client in a raid. |
| 23:11.15 | yoshimo | yes because some people prefer english to the more or less poorly translated stuff |
| 23:11.23 | MysticalOS | yep |
| 23:11.34 | elec29a | a friend of mine did yesterday loose his driving license from a translation error we live in german part of italy -- they cant even tranlate the law correct here |
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| 23:12.53 | Gagorian | One translator translated the string correctly but he added my entire context explanation from the curse translation app |
| 23:13.04 | Gagorian | So basically a one or two word string became three sentences |
| 23:13.09 | Gagorian | Man that fucked up the UI |
| 23:13.10 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a bug with max upgrade computation |
| 23:13.12 | Repo | - Fixed Arcane Empowerment bug |
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| 23:14.07 | WobWork1 | MysticalOS: My favourite was Ahune's Special Reserve during Sapphiron |
| 23:14.32 | MysticalOS | :o |
| 23:15.23 | orionshock | MysticalOS, what addon? |
| 23:15.41 | MysticalOS | DBM |
| 23:16.15 | orionshock | is the localization open on the curse app ? |
| 23:16.45 | MysticalOS | no. tandanu is using his own svn |
| 23:18.08 | orionshock | well if there is one thing i've observed about localizations and addons, is that with more users come more and better translators. if your having issues with the lack of localizations, i'd recommend that you open the app up on curseforge |
| 23:19.55 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1315 DrDamage.lua: |
| 23:19.57 | Repo | - Reconstruct rank string if needed for casts and mana/power cost displays |
| 23:25.42 | elec29a | are curseclient downloads counting on http://wow.curse.com ? |
| 23:28.39 | orionshock | should be |
| 23:30.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7335 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
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| 23:33.33 | kadrahil | ckknight: hire me |
| 23:33.54 | yoshimo | kadrahil why should he? |
| 23:34.03 | kadrahil | because i'm looking for work :( |
| 23:34.15 | yoshimo | curse.com could need some work ;) |
| 23:34.22 | kadrahil | possibly |
| 23:35.03 | yoshimo | the comments are ugly |
| 23:35.07 | kadrahil | i'm fluent with php, jquery/js, css, mysql, so forth |
| 23:36.02 | orionshock | kadrahil, do you work freelance and for free? |
| 23:36.30 | kadrahil | orionshock: i do not, but not for free hopefully ;/ |
| 23:36.34 | kadrahil | err, i do now*( |
| 23:36.47 | orionshock | kadrahil, i think you'd need to talk to Kaelten tho |
| 23:37.25 | kadrahil | orionshock: i will |
| 23:41.43 | profalbert | cd .. |
| 23:41.56 | Torhal | FAIL |
| 23:42.01 | profalbert | wups |
| 23:42.15 | Torhal | S'ok - I did "sudo emerge --sync" in Pidgin a few minutes ago |
| 23:44.52 | pompy | yeah torhal, i was liek wtf |
| 23:48.53 | kadrahil | ;o |
| 23:49.01 | kadrahil | emerges Fisker |
| 23:53.52 | Arrowmaster | kadrahil: they use python and asp |
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| 23:54.08 | kadrahil | Arrowmaster: sigh |
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| 23:55.09 | Arrowmaster | and postgresql since mysql fails |
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| 23:55.45 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r615 ClosetGnome.lua: Fix clearing keybindings for deleted sets. |
| 23:57.15 | Repo | 10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r118 playernames.lua: Scan the whole guild roster, not just those online. |
