00:03.24 | Fisker | Groktar |
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00:05.23 | Torhal | slaps Fisker around a bit with a Megalon Groktar. |
00:06.05 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
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00:15.30 | Megalon | Bibi: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=mmoczg36.jpg nice feature on itemtooltips ;7 |
00:16.14 | Bibi | doesn't have anything to do with item tooltips |
00:16.23 | Bibi | it's about flash the worst thing on earth |
00:17.15 | WobWork | well it's a good thing the iPad doesn't support it! |
00:17.19 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 043.3.2-1.0.2 * 1bb9327 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.2-1.0.2 |
00:17.27 | Bibi | and fixed |
00:18.57 | Megalon | not for my firefox :x |
00:22.54 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r249 / (8 files in 8 directories): --Valentines Stuff |
00:22.55 | Repo | --Mining Run |
00:23.04 | Megalon | not it is, weeeee |
00:25.10 | Torhal | Funkeh`: ping |
00:25.16 | Funkeh` | yes |
00:32.54 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino * r107 EnchantingSell.toc: EnchantingSell: |
00:32.56 | Repo | - updated toc for patch |
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00:34.44 | Repo | 10project-13430: 03Shamino * r42 Auction-1.0.toc: Auction-1.0: |
00:34.58 | Repo | - updated toc |
00:39.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7221 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: |
00:39.03 | Repo | Only warn for every 2 stacks of buffet so we don't spam so much. |
00:40.06 | Repo | 10project-13430: 03Shamino 0430300.01-release * r43 : Tagging as 30300.01-release |
00:43.06 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdblayers-1-0/. LibDBLayers-1.0. Azethoth (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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00:44.03 | Groktar | pounce |
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00:46.46 | Fisker | gould |
00:46.59 | Shadowed | Did you cry when you approved that Torhal |
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00:47.14 | Torhal | Shadowed: Just twitched a little. |
00:47.19 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/honortracker/. HonorTracker. gesslar (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
00:47.27 | Torhal | I also moved three projects directly to CF |
00:47.30 | Torhal | So it balanced |
00:47.42 | Fisker | shot myself |
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00:51.57 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ninja-looter/. Ninja Looter. JAYMC (Manager/Author/Tester/Maintainer/Ticket Manager/Documenter/Translator/Former author/Artist/Contributor). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
00:51.58 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino 0430300.01-release * r108 : Tagging as 30300.01-release |
00:51.59 | Repo | 10materials-tracker: 03Shamino * r60 MaterialsTracker.toc: MaterialsTracker: |
00:52.00 | Repo | - updated to 30300 |
00:52.22 | Fisker | goodbye cruel world Torhal |
00:52.26 | Fisker | do you understand? |
00:53.23 | Ingela^ | damn that JAYMC dude does a lot of thing for his ninja-looter addon |
00:53.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7222 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: |
00:53.41 | Repo | Remove the unchained warning, we already warn for instability stacks anyway. |
00:54.21 | Torhal | Fisker: Yes, I understand. The gun is cocked, loaded, and pointed at your head. |
00:54.35 | Torhal | Fisker: Make sure you clean up the mess afterward. |
00:54.43 | Fisker | how would i? |
00:54.45 | Repo | 10materials-tracker: 03Shamino * r61 libs/ (3 files in 2 directories): MaterialsTracker: |
00:54.46 | Repo | - updated embeds |
00:54.50 | Torhal | Fisker: UNDEAD! |
00:55.11 | Axodious | /cast [@Fisker] Raise Dead; |
00:55.12 | Fisker | no thanks i hate the undead |
00:55.16 | Fisker | great |
00:55.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7223 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
00:56.04 | Torhal | It's all good, Fisker. Your corpse runs have been replaced with a spawn timer. |
00:56.31 | Axodious | lol |
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00:59.57 | Ingela^ | is there any use of grid2 yet |
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01:01.23 | Axodious | what do you mean Ingela^? |
01:01.33 | Repo | 10materials-tracker: 03Shamino 0430300.01-release * r62 : Tagging as 30300.01-release |
01:01.41 | Ingela^ | yeah i think i didn't evne get it to work last time i tried it months ago |
01:01.55 | Axodious | my room mate has been using it for quite some time now |
01:02.10 | Axodious | i however am still using grid1 |
01:02.23 | Ingela^ | does it have retarded settings as grid1 still? |
01:02.58 | Axodious | i don't understand the question ;x |
01:08.30 | Torhal | I've never understood the "Does X AddOn do Y?" line of questioning, since most of those questions are subjective. It's not hard to download/install/try. |
01:10.02 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * v0.1-beta-1-g5125cfc / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] add possibility to override barcolors at certain counts |
01:11.06 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 04v0.1-beta * 788dcc7 /: [new tag] tag as v0.1-beta |
01:14.49 | sylvanaar | guys im still using mirc, is there anything better? |
01:15.08 | Stanzilla | kvirc |
01:15.33 | profalbert | I'm using pidgin. I like all IM in one place |
01:16.26 | sylvanaar | yeah, i have trillian |
01:16.34 | sylvanaar | but its irc client sucks |
01:16.52 | profalbert | trillian isn't worth the money imho |
01:16.55 | sylvanaar | well, the one time i used it it did |
01:16.55 | Shadowed | mIRC is still the best of the terrible clients |
01:17.05 | sylvanaar | Shadowed thats what i thought |
01:17.10 | Axodious | mirc is not terrible |
01:17.11 | Axodious | >:| |
01:17.14 | Shadowed | yes it is :p |
01:17.22 | sylvanaar | what do you use Shirik |
01:17.23 | weab | ssh + screen + epic4 > mirc |
01:17.26 | sylvanaar | er Shadowed |
01:17.28 | Shirik | ? |
01:17.31 | Shadowed | mIRC |
01:17.35 | sylvanaar | sorry Shirik |
01:17.41 | Axodious | i made my mirc act as an html web server -_- |
01:17.44 | weab | buy a mac and use colloquy > mirc |
01:17.46 | Shadowed | Macs are worst |
01:17.50 | Shadowed | Colloquy is even worst weab sorry :p |
01:17.57 | profalbert | mirc is win-only --> fail |
01:18.03 | weab | you're crazy |
01:18.08 | Shadowed | Colloquy has a terrible buffer and lags if you let it get too large |
01:18.08 | sylvanaar | honestly mirc can be made into just about anything |
01:18.14 | Shadowed | the log system is terrible |
01:18.17 | sylvanaar | yeah |
01:18.33 | Shadowed | and it also has a weird lag issue if you type a message then start typing another too quickly when doing something else like running WoW |
01:18.43 | Torhal | Yo dawg, we heard you liked Macs so we put one pedal in your car. |
01:18.43 | Shadowed | ... but it's still better than everything else I've found |
01:18.52 | Stanzilla | sylvanaar: ftp://ftp.kvirc.de/pub/kvirc/snapshots/win32/KVIrc-4.0.0-rc2-r3900-lite.exe try that :> |
01:18.57 | sylvanaar | im not using any scripts really, just tab-complete |
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01:19.18 | sylvanaar | Stanzilla i was going to ask if i should get the release or not, but there you go |
01:19.32 | Stanzilla | nah releases are old |
01:19.37 | Axodious | http://96.23.115.143:10240 |
01:19.37 | weab | actually irc just sucks in general. it's antiquated and needs to be replaced |
01:19.42 | Axodious | generated by mirc! |
01:20.16 | Axodious | afk |
01:20.16 | sylvanaar | im moving off of this machine finally, and onto my new one so i dont have to stay rdp'ed into this one the whole time |
01:20.30 | Shadowed | that too weab |
01:20.52 | sylvanaar | so i figured its a good time to update my irc client - since mirc usually breaks whenever I move it |
01:20.58 | Shadowed | does it? |
01:21.03 | Shadowed | I've moved installs dozens of times without issues |
01:21.29 | sylvanaar | Stanzilla the chick on the install screen does nothing for me |
01:21.44 | Stanzilla | :o |
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01:21.59 | sylvanaar | Shadowed i usually lose some setting i didnt know I had made |
01:22.04 | Shadowed | odd |
01:22.11 | sylvanaar | i know |
01:22.18 | sylvanaar | thats what i say when it happens |
01:23.27 | sylvanaar | you know moving my profile folders to another drive - when i install things they dont refer to the right location sometimes |
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01:24.36 | sylvanaar | i think people must do %ProfileDir%\Downloads vs %DownloadDir% or whatever the special named folders are |
01:25.53 | weab | user directory is such a mess in windows |
01:26.16 | weab | no two programs seem to agree on where to put things. i don't think any of my dozens of games actually use the 'saved games' folder |
01:28.34 | sylvanaar | weab its almost the same as linux though, you have the equiv of /usr and /usr/local |
01:29.28 | sylvanaar | though its \users\<user>\appdata\<local or roaming> |
01:30.06 | sylvanaar | i guess thats not /usr and /usr/local |
01:32.33 | sylvanaar | i think you should be able to disable roaming profiles in windows so local profile directory is the same as roaming profile directory |
01:36.17 | Bruners | weab: what is wrong with irc? |
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01:40.54 | Axodious | %appdata% ftw |
01:41.22 | Axodious | and you can thank UAC for that weab |
01:46.59 | weab | Bruners: its age, mostly. redesigned from the ground up a lot of stupid issues could be fixed, and a lot of features could be improved or added |
01:47.56 | orionshock | weab, linux seems to have fixed that.. least for user data that is |
01:47.56 | Bruners | it doesnt need any new features |
01:48.13 | weab | i'd disagree |
01:48.14 | Killmore | anyone know an addon that can whisper, call in raid, put raid icon when you got a specific buff or debuff ? |
01:48.35 | orionshock | Killmore, boss mods? |
01:49.35 | Killmore | deus vox didnt put raid icon + on self warning with Necrotic plague at lich king :( |
01:50.53 | Shadowed | ugh |
01:51.03 | Shadowed | Looks like whatever Curse did to kill the spam bots got broken |
01:51.04 | Bruners | weab: what features are missing? |
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01:54.07 | weab | proper registration for one. nickserv is just a hack |
01:54.16 | weab | bouncers shouldn't be necessary |
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01:54.34 | weab | would be nice to have the server give you at least recent chat history on join |
01:55.08 | weab | seems fairly stupid that in a chat program websites like pastey are still needed. seems like a solution for that could be found without spamming |
01:55.37 | weab | pasting images, embedding video and such, a la wave could be neat, within reason |
01:55.52 | Shadowed | what |
01:56.23 | orionshock | weab, wave is neat |
01:56.27 | Shadowed | the concept of IRC is fine, you don't need fancy stuff like that |
01:57.26 | arkanes | I like waves as a concept |
01:57.27 | sylvaan | wow this does some nasty things to peoples usernames |
01:57.31 | weab | shrug. he asked what it doesn't have |
01:57.31 | Bruners | weab: if you want all that into irc it would ruin it |
01:57.33 | arkanes | the tech isn't there, though |
01:57.44 | sylvaan | this client is pretty nice though |
01:57.50 | Bruners | weab: way to much wasted bandwith |
01:57.53 | arkanes | needs a lot of UI work to make features discoverable |
01:58.10 | weab | wasted on what |
01:58.11 | Bruners | as it is now you can chat on dial up |
01:58.18 | Shadowed | Wave's a nice idea, but 99% of it is useless for general chat |
01:58.41 | weab | it's great for collaboration |
01:58.44 | Shadowed | like, being able to see peoples message as they type |
01:58.53 | weab | i like that feature. |
01:59.23 | Bruners | i don't like that feature at all |
01:59.24 | sylvaan | i dont want to know when people are typing |
01:59.40 | sylvaan | because they can type "." then go away |
01:59.44 | weab | if you're actually interacting with people it speeds up the pace of the conversation |
02:00.17 | weab | most complaints i hear about it is people being self conscious about typos and stupid stuff like that |
02:00.22 | sylvaan | right |
02:00.23 | orionshock | if you tone wave down a bit on the editing of other pplz stuff and droped down some of the nicities like knowing when they are typing |
02:00.36 | orionshock | then it'd be a perfect replacement.. but the plugins would be a btch |
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02:05.26 | sylvaan | ok, so Stanzilla what can this thing do? |
02:05.33 | sylvaan | i like it so far |
02:05.53 | sylvaan | though all the themes were fail |
02:06.32 | sylvaan | everyone knows IRC has a black background |
02:07.53 | Torhal | sylvaan: I've actually had to change to a black background on every client I've tried (that allowed the change, otherwise I ditched it immediately) |
02:07.55 | Bruners | sylvaan: what client are you on ? |
02:07.56 | sylvanaar | the client seems to be just as good as mirc - not instant "this sucks" reaction |
02:08.03 | sylvanaar | oh wow - i just got a popup |
02:08.23 | sylvaan | this client is cool |
02:08.33 | Bruners | irssi or weechat in screen are your friends |
02:08.39 | sylvaan | kvirc |
02:09.06 | Groktar | ever heard of a jpeg looking different in firefox and chrome? |
02:09.16 | sylvanaar | oh wow |
02:09.42 | sylvanaar | i like this client Stanzilla thanks for the tip |
02:10.35 | Torhal | sylvaan: Also, try Konversation. |
02:11.16 | sylvaan | this is so cool - i have a popup from that message and i am rdp'ed into a different machine |
02:11.28 | Bruners | http://www.kvirc.net/img/themes/theme_hellokitty.png |
02:11.33 | Bruners | thats a nice theme for you |
02:11.46 | Torhal | *STAB* |
02:11.55 | orionshock | ^^ |
02:13.30 | Groktar | this is driving me nuts |
02:13.39 | Groktar | lol |
02:14.12 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v442-3-ge2e3cb0 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
02:14.13 | Repo | e2e3cb0: Lich King: Added a timer to show when the fight begins |
02:14.14 | Repo | ad6ac7e: Lich King: Throttle Valkyr alerts for 25m |
02:14.56 | orionshock | Groktar, steering wheal from a boat from behind ? |
02:15.37 | sylvaan | Torhal: im on a PC |
02:16.01 | Torhal | sylvaan: So am I, just using Linux :) |
02:16.23 | Torhal | I realized after I mentioned Konversation that KVIRC is platform-independant (mostly) |
02:16.36 | Groktar | no |
02:16.46 | Groktar | a jpeg looks different in firefox and chrome |
02:18.42 | Groktar | ok, i guess i fixed it |
02:18.56 | Groktar | had to mess around with quality settings in photoshop |
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02:22.23 | Bruners | Torhal: irssi is also platform-independant :P (mostly) |
02:22.44 | sylvanaar | i only use windows - |
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02:23.37 | sylvanaar | well i have a mac to - but i do almost everything on windows |
02:25.41 | Torhal | Bruners: It's also not GUI-enabled. For some reason, I like my IRC clients with a GUI. |
02:27.01 | Bruners | dont think i have used a gui-enabled client for irc in 7 years |
02:28.33 | Bruners | used mirc from 99->2003ish tho |
02:32.25 | sylvanaar | what does gui enabled mean |
02:33.15 | Bruners | having a gui thats not just text |
02:33.26 | sylvanaar | wow |
02:33.50 | sylvanaar | you are running in a command shell |
02:35.13 | Bruners | yes, nothing wow about it actually |
02:35.21 | Bruners | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/2010-02-08@03.34.11.png |
02:36.12 | sylvanaar | looks like 1 window of mine |
02:36.30 | sylvanaar | i guess its the same |
02:36.47 | Arrowmaster | which font is that? vera/dejavu? |
02:37.11 | Bruners | Monospace |
02:37.24 | Bruners | could be that it got a different name |
02:38.08 | Arrowmaster | monospace is just a default alias |
02:38.15 | Bruners | xft:Monospace:pixelsize=11:antialias=true:hinting=true |
02:38.22 | Arrowmaster | so its probably bitstream vera mono or dejavu mono |
02:38.40 | Arrowmaster | the l's look like vera/dejavu |
02:39.32 | Arrowmaster | ive gotten so used to thick fonts for irc that i couldnt use that |
02:39.44 | Arrowmaster | im using terminus bold |
02:39.53 | sylvanaar | im using consolas |
02:40.07 | Arrowmaster | yuck |
02:40.12 | Arrowmaster | cleartype fonts |
02:40.13 | Bruners | terminus doesnt have bold fonts for text size below 8 or so |
02:40.16 | sylvanaar | it looks really good |
02:40.18 | Bruners | so couldnt use it on my netbook |
02:40.46 | Arrowmaster | why would you use a text size below 8? adjust the DPI |
02:41.17 | Bruners | the fonts i have installed http://dpaste.com/156017/ |
02:41.49 | Arrowmaster | that is a short list |
02:48.16 | harl | i wonder if i can increase my gearscore above 5000 without raiding |
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02:49.42 | WobWork | harl: what class? |
02:49.56 | WobWork | cause if it's a DK |
02:50.01 | WobWork | I suggest building a spellpower set =P |
02:50.03 | harl | shaman healer, druid healer |
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02:55.35 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03ananhaid * r278 locales/zhCN.lua: Mendeleev: |
02:55.37 | Repo | - zhCN update. |
02:57.15 | WobWork | harl: you could probably get your T10 sets |
02:57.20 | WobWork | wouldn't that push you above 5k? |
02:57.28 | WobWork | I have no idea about GS, honestly |
03:05.51 | harl | i could if i'd get enough emblems of frost for that from just doing "daily heroics". |
03:06.36 | harl | but i consider emblems of frost to be emblems of raid, so they're not something i'm counting on. |
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03:08.34 | Torhal_ | Foo |
03:11.54 | WobWork | harl: eh, I've gotten enough frost emblems from dailies to get 2 T10 so far |
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03:12.28 | Repo | e4b4c4d: Lich King: Fixed second Remorseless Winter spell cast start spellid on 25m |
03:12.29 | Repo | 2d367c3: Lich King: Add 25m Harvest Soul spellid |
03:12.37 | harl | that's probably if you'd started to do so from the beginning when they got introduced |
03:12.47 | WobWork | of course, at this rate, it'll be another 3 months before I can get the other two =P |
03:12.59 | harl | but not if you had been 80 for about 2 weeks now |
03:13.37 | harl | which is the case with my shaman |
03:14.12 | WobWork | in any case, as a healer, you have no excuse about not getting the frost dailies =P |
03:14.19 | Repo | 10deus-vox-encounters: 03kollektiv 07master * v442-6-g054c63a Core.lua: [+1 commit] Localization update |
03:14.58 | WobWork | PS Shaman T10 shoulders look AWESOME |
03:15.10 | WobWork | also <3 T10 2 piece |
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03:16.38 | harl | of course, when having enough of those emblems, i'll get some of that myself as well.. been on with my shaman every day since he hit 80 and got 34 emblems. |
03:17.49 | harl | and only about twice of that with my druid so far |
03:18.10 | WobWork | now that I have a few 219 items, I'm feeling slightly more confident with tree healing |
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03:18.44 | WobWork | tree regen is crazy |
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03:20.54 | harl | hm |
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03:24.16 | harl | VoA has been the only raid i've been to with my shaman yet, but i don't quite expect to gain much from it any time |
03:24.51 | harl | and i'm not going pvp anyway |
03:27.05 | Torhal_ | <PROTECTED> |
03:27.18 | Torhal_ | Meh. |
03:27.29 | harl | agrees. |
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03:41.27 | sylvanaar | god, all the colors are wrong - it takes forever to get them set right |
03:41.44 | Torhal | Heh |
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03:46.05 | Torhal | Bruners: Damn you. Now I'm futzing with weechat |
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03:55.48 | Groktar | hrm |
03:56.10 | Groktar | i don't suppose there's way to pull that character image off the armory, is there? |
03:56.14 | Groktar | since it's flash? |
03:57.58 | Repo | 10quartz: 03ananhaid * r94 Quartz.toc: Quartz: |
03:57.59 | Repo | - zhCN toc desc update. |
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04:09.39 | pompy | Groktar: considering blizzards facebook app shows the 3d character model in the app, there probably is |
04:10.59 | WobWork | can anyone get http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net//models/character/tauren/scalpupperhair00_02.jpg ? |
04:11.20 | WobWork | I'm trying to fiddler the output to see how the pose is transferred |
04:11.28 | WobWork | but I can't get the armory to load up properly |
04:11.38 | orionshock | WobWork, invalid domain |
04:11.42 | orionshock | try the address again |
04:12.37 | WobWork | oddly enough http://us.media.battle.net.edgesuite.net//models/character/tauren/male/taurenmale.m2 results in an item |
04:13.31 | orionshock | orly? with that double slash at the start |
04:13.47 | orionshock | and the mixed domain name of "battle.net.edgesuite.net" |
04:14.35 | Groktar | what the HELL did my host do to their mysql server? |
04:15.02 | orionshock | rm /*.* |
04:15.06 | orionshock | rm /*.* -r |
04:15.16 | Groktar | "Field 'topic_last_post_subject' doesn't have a default value [1364]" |
04:15.22 | Groktar | is weird |
04:18.23 | Bruners | Torhal: is it good? :) |
04:19.01 | Primer | Anyone know if there's an addon that plugs into the calendar as reports if invited people are online? |
04:19.12 | Groktar | and i get errors if i try to cahnge the default value to null |
04:20.01 | WobWork | Groktar: I don't think you can pull a still image from the armory |
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04:20.11 | WobWork | since all the armory stores is a position for the model itself |
04:20.14 | Groktar | yeah, that would have been too awesome |
04:20.33 | Groktar | well, if i could pull one i would have cached it on my server |
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04:21.06 | Torhal | Bruners: It isn't bad at all. |
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04:21.21 | Groktar | right now it just grabs name, race, achievement points, etc. and puts them under your avatar |
04:21.38 | Groktar | and it occured to me how awesome it would be if i could put a picture there |
04:23.02 | Groktar | i don't understand why mysql would bitch about no default value when that column's default value is set to null :( |
04:23.55 | Groktar | at first i thought it was just me on my dev site, but then i realized it was also happening on the live site |
04:24.05 | Groktar | which i haven't touched in a month |
04:24.07 | Groktar | D: |
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04:36.33 | steev | heh |
04:36.51 | steev | someone has a primordial essence up on the ah for 3g less than the cheapest primordial saronite hoping someone makes a mistake |
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04:37.30 | WobWork | isn't that a grey? =P |
04:37.37 | Groktar | white, yeah |
04:37.52 | steev | yes it is |
04:37.54 | Groktar | always searches for primordial |
04:38.18 | Groktar | or, primordial essence |
04:38.28 | Groktar | heh |
04:38.38 | Torhal | hides a primordial essance in Fisker's ear. |
04:38.51 | Torhal | essence, too |
04:38.53 | Groktar | kills fisker |
04:39.00 | Torhal | What did he drop? |
04:39.04 | Groktar | cooks a fiskersteak for Torhal |
04:39.13 | Torhal | Gak! |
04:39.24 | Groktar | offers Torhal the 2 copper |
04:41.21 | steev | 24 primordial saronite |
04:41.23 | steev | 1 to go |
04:43.22 | orionshock | is there a way to offset a text in PB4? |
04:43.30 | orionshock | ? Shefki, ^^ |
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04:49.54 | Torhal | Foo |
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04:58.06 | Torhal | Seerah: Pick of the Week today? |
04:58.29 | Seerah | just got home from a super bowl party. will be looking at it shortly :) |
04:58.39 | Torhal | Woor! |
04:58.39 | Seerah | suggestions? |
04:58.47 | Torhal | Not really. :D |
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04:58.57 | Antiarc | I seem to have discovered a Skada bug. |
04:58.58 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/ybDqz.png |
04:59.06 | orionshock | can we do a pick of the week on curse's networks ? |
04:59.19 | Torhal | orionshock: They can't even fix search. |
04:59.33 | Torhal | Though, it WOULD be a new feature, and they seem to be keen on those rather than fixing old features |
04:59.49 | orionshock | well no harm in asking :) |
04:59.54 | Torhal | Aye |
05:00.31 | WobWork | Seerah: After Dark! =) |
05:00.35 | Torhal | This new IRC client just told me: Day changed to Mon, 08 Feb 2010 |
05:01.00 | WobWork | man you're slow, Torhal =\ |
05:01.03 | Torhal | Now I'm expecting: You haven't typed in four hours! |
05:01.06 | WobWork | it's been monday for 16 hours |
05:01.16 | Torhal | WobWork: Get off of the methamphetamines. |
05:01.36 | WobWork | I'm taking so much speed I'm in the future? |
05:01.41 | Torhal | yes! |
05:01.49 | WobWork | goes into hypertime |
05:02.15 | Seerah | WobWork: you haven't updated that this past week :p |
05:02.27 | Torhal | Seerah: Spamalyzer! Or something. |
05:02.29 | Torhal | Heh |
05:02.31 | Killmore | http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i179/bobsagetomg/f11.jpg |
05:03.00 | WobWork | Seerah: oh, is that a criteria? =( |
05:03.06 | WobWork | Damn I missed out on my week then |
05:03.15 | WobWork | Seerah: there's nothing to update! |
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05:03.59 | Seerah | yep. upload or update for that week |
05:05.00 | WobWork | bah |
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05:19.37 | Torhal | WobWork: Do your LDB-rewrite of HeyFu, then bug Seerah |
05:19.55 | Seerah | or update Xparky :) |
05:20.00 | Seerah | wait, did I already pick that one? |
05:20.08 | Torhal | You may have :) |
05:22.14 | Torhal | Seerah: 02-24-2008 - Xparky |
05:22.27 | Seerah | *nod* |
05:24.09 | Yivry | wow activity here... noone ever sleeps? :p |
05:24.24 | Groktar | ugh i hate this part |
05:24.36 | Groktar | making all new buttons for a forum D: |
05:24.46 | kandarz | Seerah: EveryQuest! |
05:24.53 | Seerah | Yivry: you've got people from all around the world in here |
05:25.05 | Yivry | I know :p |
05:25.31 | Seerah | kandarz: noted :) thumbing through what I've found so far |
05:25.52 | Yivry | i was referring more to my own sleep-deprived state tbh |
05:26.04 | kandarz | Silly Wowhead needs to fix new holiday quest categories |
05:26.04 | WobWork | Torhal: I just have to motivate myself to swap to a non dewdrop menu system |
05:26.37 | WobWork | how did that Snowflake library go? |
05:27.31 | Torhal | WobWork: Oh, lord. Every commit that guy makes (and he makes quite a few) says "first version" |
05:27.38 | Torhal | I wouldn't trust it to be a good library. |
05:27.43 | WobWork | hehe |
05:27.58 | Seerah | is he a rare and delicate snowflake? |
05:28.06 | Torhal | Seerah: Haha |
05:28.43 | Torhal | WobWork: Latest version on WoWAce? |
05:37.41 | WobWork | Torhal: of snowflake? |
05:42.01 | Torhal | WobWork: HeyFu. But I already saw it was updated on Dec 9 |
05:44.51 | WobWork | that was a library push |
05:44.59 | WobWork | no actual functionality change |
05:45.12 | WobWork | I'll get around to redoing it soon =) |
05:45.32 | Torhal | As in "Soon (TM)"? |
05:50.20 | pompy | what the hell is causing this, "<12:49:07 AM>Unable to zone in while an encounter is in progress." |
05:50.26 | WobWork | My problem, Torhal |
05:50.33 | pompy | was trying to enter AV |
05:50.33 | WobWork | is that I can still get badges on my druid =\ |
05:55.08 | Torhal | WobWork: You're saying that you'd rather play than code? |
05:55.11 | Torhal | :D |
05:55.25 | WobWork | sad, wot? |
05:55.39 | Torhal | Owell |
05:55.43 | Torhal | I have the opposite problem :) |
05:56.21 | pompy | Torhal: thats right, get to work on ARL |
05:57.23 | Seerah | PotW: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=177750#post177750 |
05:57.47 | WobWork | Seerah: broken? |
05:57.50 | Groktar | pounces WobWork |
05:57.59 | Seerah | WobWork: I didn't name it |
05:58.08 | Seerah | I *think* they meant broker, but... |
05:58.16 | Seerah | says "broken" everywhere |
05:58.42 | WobWork | Seerah: and Jumper? I think I remember a mod for that for Morrowwind =P |
05:59.19 | Seerah | there was a statistic type mod about a year or so ago (don't remember if it made it to wowi) that included jumps. but yeah. :) Jumper |
05:59.48 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r151 Modules/World_Events/World_Events.lua: Manual Update Love is in the Air quest categories |
06:00.25 | pompy | orionshock: did you name it broken lfd on purpose? |
06:00.56 | pompy | prolly, cuz of ulic's http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_lfd/ |
06:03.33 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r152-release * r152 : Created tag r152-release. |
06:06.47 | WobWork | yeah I use that one |
06:06.55 | kandarz | Antiarc: what texture is that on Skada? |
06:09.39 | Antiarc | kandarz: "Armory" |
06:14.37 | WobWork | Antiarc: do you find skada more accurate than recount? |
06:15.24 | Bruners | accurate compared to what? :P |
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06:17.18 | WobWork | Bruners: hehe |
06:17.20 | WobWork | rephrases |
06:17.26 | WobWork | "Why choose Skada over Recount"? |
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06:21.59 | Bruners | WobWork: i think Skada is more just a dammage meter and not all the extra features (graphs+) |
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06:25.27 | kandarz | That's why I use it, I don't need a graph of my latency, fps or even DPS/healing |
06:26.52 | Bruners | recount is so much more than that tho |
06:27.41 | WobWork | I use recount for the graphs |
06:27.51 | WobWork | so I can figure out how people do the dps/healing they do |
06:27.56 | WobWork | (or don't) |
06:28.42 | Bruners | if you only look at whos nr1 on dps then i guess any meter is good enough :) |
06:29.46 | WobWork | or why people died |
06:29.52 | WobWork | that one is always good to know |
06:30.38 | steev | people died because they were stupid and didn't move out of the fire |
06:31.26 | Bruners | or they got punced into fire and then attacked by an instant boss spell that killed them |
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07:16.56 | orionshock | pompy, yeah, to distinguish the names from ulic's one |
07:18.11 | orionshock | WobWork, yes intentionally named "Broken_LFD" more as a joke to the whole "Fu-Broker" naming conventions |
07:20.18 | Torhal | orionshock: You could have just done what I do - refuse to use the paradigm and give the project an actual name. |
07:21.03 | orionshock | this is true |
07:21.20 | orionshock | but it looks like im off to polish yet another addon.. |
07:21.25 | Torhal | Oh? |
07:21.25 | orionshock | does wowui doe git at all? |
07:21.29 | Torhal | Not yet |
07:21.32 | Torhal | Soon(TM) |
07:21.41 | orionshock | indeed |
07:22.08 | orionshock | well, about 3 months ago i didn't like git.. but im a believer now :) |
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07:26.26 | WobWork | And then I saw her face, now I'm a believer |
07:26.31 | WobWork | Not a trace |
07:26.34 | WobWork | of doubt in my mind! |
07:30.02 | Funkeh` | that song always makes me think of shrek |
07:30.17 | Shadowed | Adys: ping |
07:30.21 | WobWork | Shrek used songs well |
07:30.36 | WobWork | I really like all the adult level jokes they had in the movies |
07:31.00 | Adys | Shadowed: pong |
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07:33.43 | Funkeh` | Yed it was done well |
07:33.47 | Funkeh` | yep* |
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07:41.55 | Repo | bec2723: Apparently I suck at Lua. And .pkgmeta. And .docmeta. |
07:41.56 | Repo | f11d4d7: Moar. |
07:41.58 | Repo | 331e78c: Moar syntax fixes! |
07:41.59 | Repo | e621a22: Fix a syntax error. |
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07:58.22 | Repo | 10project-13908: 03Smuggles 04v2.5.1 * r58 : Tagging as v2.5.1 |
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08:00.00 | orionshock | question: is it better to use an "If then else" or use [[ SecondsToTime(healerWait) ~= "" and SecondsToTime(healerWait) or UNKNOWN ]] ? |
08:00.30 | nevcairiel | if then else is marginally faster, but its personal taste |
08:01.00 | orionshock | well i ask because the SecondsToTime() is rather logic heavy to begin with |
08:01.18 | nevcairiel | you could cache it before in both cases |
08:01.18 | orionshock | using this in an 1sec refresh on a tooltip |
08:01.46 | nevcairiel | time = SecondsToTime(...); if time == "" then time = UNKNOWN end; |
08:01.49 | nevcairiel | seems the best, imho |
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08:05.17 | orionshock | caching and line logic seem best here |
08:06.49 | orionshock | *inline logic |
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08:39.20 | TNSe| | 2 days until LK heroic dies? yes? |
08:39.28 | TNSe| | maybe? |
08:39.28 | Fisker | k? |
08:39.40 | Fisker | is it the same instance as they said then? |
08:39.47 | Fisker | or is it like totc/totgc? |
08:39.51 | TNSe| | wonder what guild w ill receive banhammer then |
08:40.02 | TNSe| | as far as I understood, you put the instance on heroic before starting boss |
08:40.20 | TNSe| | so its same instance, not like totgc/totc.. |
08:40.34 | Fisker | k |
08:40.39 | Fisker | when do you get the buff thing? |
08:40.44 | DWSR | Which buff thing? |
08:40.45 | Fisker | and what does it do? |
08:40.47 | TNSe| | serverside :P |
08:41.08 | TNSe| | noone really knows |
08:41.15 | Fisker | DWSR there's a buff which everyone in ICC gets after defeating the lich king |
08:41.21 | Fisker | kinda like Sunwell |
08:41.30 | DWSR | Ah. |
08:41.42 | DWSR | Why not just remove the Chill of the Throne? |
08:41.54 | Fisker | though this one in in addition to whatever buffs you have :P |
08:42.02 | Fisker | where the sunwell one was just a replacement for fort and int |
08:42.05 | TNSe| | because blizz doesnt want bosses to 2 shot tanks |
08:42.41 | TNSe| | if chill of the throne was removed, bosses would need to hit harder,a nd then paladins would be only viable tank |
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08:43.10 | TNSe| | Paladins get artifically nerfed through weaker hitting bosses |
08:43.53 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r7224 Citadel/Locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
08:44.29 | TNSe| | last 2 days I've had halls of reflection random twice. |
08:44.51 | TNSe| | once with a 45k hp ~5300 gs blood dk with all proper talents |
08:45.05 | TNSe| | and other time with a 32k hp ~4700 gs prot pally with all proper talents |
08:45.16 | TNSe| | the pally run was so much smoother that I almost had time to dps. |
08:45.41 | nevcairiel | maybe the dk just sucked |
08:45.45 | TNSe| | he did of course |
08:46.04 | TNSe| | I believe he had his back turned to 3/4 mobs every time |
08:46.09 | nevcairiel | heh |
08:46.15 | TNSe| | I was spamming out 16k holy lights every 1.4s |
08:46.20 | TNSe| | and he was dropping |
08:46.26 | DWSR | TNSe: Because gearscore is obviously a measure of how good each tank itemized, amirite? |
08:46.36 | TNSe| | no |
08:46.40 | TNSe| | gs is hell on earth |
08:46.52 | DWSR | So your comparator is flawed. |
08:46.53 | Torhal | GS is fine - 99% of the people who use it are idiots though. |
08:46.55 | DWSR | Assertion failed. |
08:46.55 | TNSe| | I just use it so people whose life depends on it can see what I'm talking about |
08:47.08 | TNSe| | dk: some raid gear, mostly 232 |
08:47.15 | Torhal | Actually, GS is a POS, but its existence isn't the bane of the world |
08:47.18 | TNSe| | paladin: some 232, but atleast all epic. |
08:47.24 | TNSe| | I could have said that |
08:47.30 | DWSR | TNSe: Did one stack stam and the other avoidance? |
08:47.31 | TNSe| | but gs 5300 and gs 4800 says that to me. |
08:47.34 | TNSe| | no, both sta |
08:47.35 | DWSR | TNSe: Did one play better? |
08:47.47 | TNSe| | thats the thing |
08:47.49 | DWSR | etc. etc. etc. |
08:47.59 | DWSR | GS tells you shit all about anything except for someone's ilvl. |
08:48.01 | TNSe| | did one play better |
08:48.10 | TNSe| | or was it the class that made it easier |
08:48.19 | TNSe| | they both used same out of line of sight tactic |
08:48.40 | DWSR | So? |
08:48.46 | DWSR | You get RNG in there somewhere. |
08:48.48 | TNSe| | both tanks had proper gearing and talenst from my inspect (and I don't have GS installed, so my gs was estimated) |
08:48.52 | TNSe| | RNG in 8/10 waves? |
08:49.02 | TNSe| | I thought RNG was random, not consistant. |
08:49.05 | DWSR | TNSe: Sure. One had a lot more casters than the other. |
08:49.20 | TNSe| | actually no |
08:49.20 | DWSR | Also, paladins have block. |
08:49.24 | TNSe| | the dk only had 2 mages |
08:49.35 | TNSe| | one of which he let me get killed by |
08:49.40 | TNSe| | the paladin had massive amounts of mages |
08:49.49 | TNSe| | almost 1 / wave |
08:50.21 | TNSe| | but I do believe the dk was utter crap |
08:50.24 | DWSR | ^^ |
08:50.30 | TNSe| | because one of the players was from my server |
08:50.36 | TNSe| | I got kicked because "my healing was shit." |
08:50.44 | TNSe| | 1 hour later they were stil ldoing it |
08:50.46 | TNSe| | kicked dk |
08:50.52 | TNSe| | and then they completed it |
08:51.09 | DWSR | That's the player, not the class |
08:51.13 | DWSR | I know that I tank just fine on my DK |
08:51.18 | TNSe| | it was funny when I was suddenly in dala after keeping like 6k hps on the dk over 4 waves |
08:51.22 | TNSe| | sand then going dead to a mage :P |
08:51.44 | TNSe| | but I'm pretty sure the dk was ultracrap |
08:51.55 | TNSe| | it felt like he was tanking 1 mob and turned his back on the rest |
08:52.10 | DWSR | New mob placement deal. |
08:52.17 | DWSR | It's a lot tougher to get all of the mobs in front of you now |
08:52.29 | TNSe| | yeah, but I dont think he made an effort :P |
08:52.31 | DWSR | You really have to faff around with it now. |
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08:52.44 | TNSe| | heck |
08:52.51 | TNSe| | I healed my gf's warrior through hor |
08:52.57 | TNSe| | and she has like 32k hp |
08:53.19 | DWSR | TNSe: Warriors have the highest skill cap out of any tank. |
08:53.40 | TNSe| | I know >_> she's gotten surprisngly good too. |
08:53.44 | DWSR | Well played warriors absolutely wreck other tanks. |
08:54.06 | quiescens | 32k is fine for heroic halls of reflection if people know what they are doing |
08:54.09 | DWSR | ^^ |
08:54.20 | DWSR | Warriors are still the best class for tanking, imo. |
08:54.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r7225 Citadel/Locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update |
08:54.30 | DWSR | They have a tool for every situation. |
08:54.37 | TNSe| | heh |
08:54.46 | TNSe| | yesterday she was complaining that she could not break roots |
08:54.50 | DWSR | .... |
08:54.53 | DWSR | Intercept. |
08:54.55 | TNSe| | I had to tell her she got nerfed due to pvp. |
08:55.00 | DWSR | Oh, sorry, right. |
08:55.07 | DWSR | Hell yeah she got nerfed. |
08:55.12 | DWSR | Was fucking super overpowered. |
08:55.20 | quiescens | intervene still works for it |
08:55.25 | DWSR | I'd slow, charge, slow, intercept, slow intervene charge. |
08:55.29 | DWSR | I was like.... really? |
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08:55.53 | TNSe| | <PROTECTED> |
08:56.22 | TNSe| | they should just change warbringer to : Allows the use of all abilities in defensive s tance |
08:56.34 | TNSe| | and remove snare breaking, make that a default ability of intervene |
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08:56.56 | TNSe| | reason they got snare breaking was because prot has no hamstring |
08:56.59 | quiescens | half the healers these days probably need a tank to have 40k hp unbuffed even for non icc heroics |
08:57.18 | quiescens | defensive stance has no hamstring |
08:57.26 | DWSR | quiescens: You're right. |
08:57.38 | DWSR | It has like 6 stuns instead. |
08:57.39 | TNSe| | heh |
08:57.50 | TNSe| | blame pvp :P |
08:59.19 | TNSe| | last I heard, warrs dropped imp. revenge talent |
08:59.26 | TNSe| | a devastate is more threat now >_< |
08:59.37 | TNSe| | so you can just remove revenge from bars. |
08:59.41 | quiescens | you could easily enough have been in battle stance anyway |
08:59.55 | quiescens | and then you could use hamstring! |
08:59.58 | TNSe| | heh |
09:00.12 | quiescens | you mostly lose revenge |
09:00.17 | nevcairiel | revenge is dead? |
09:00.24 | TNSe| | for raiding, mostly yes |
09:00.35 | TNSe| | you are gcd limited anyway |
09:00.39 | TNSe| | and you get less revenge procs in icc |
09:00.40 | nevcairiel | yeah |
09:00.59 | TNSe| | and devastate is slightly more threat |
09:01.43 | TNSe| | they buffed devastate 20% |
09:01.44 | nevcairiel | so you just spam shield slam and revenge these days? |
09:01.57 | TNSe| | so now devastate passed revenge in threat |
09:01.57 | nevcairiel | eh |
09:01.58 | nevcairiel | devastate |
09:02.00 | nevcairiel | not revenge :P |
09:02.07 | TNSe| | revenge has better threat/rage |
09:02.13 | TNSe| | but you are gcd capped, not rage capped |
09:03.13 | TNSe| | they nerfed shieldslam so much, that if it wasnt for the bonus threat on ss |
09:03.21 | TNSe| | you'd just spam devastate and hs :P |
09:03.23 | Fisker | your world will burn nevcairiel |
09:03.36 | DWSR | TNSe: You mean, go Unrelenting Assault spec? |
09:03.44 | DWSR | And not bother with anything but devastate? |
09:04.19 | TNSe| | lol |
09:04.22 | Fisker | why won't your world burn nevcairiel? |
09:04.31 | nevcairiel | Fisker: because its frozen solid |
09:04.55 | Fisker | ooh |
09:04.57 | Fisker | it's a brrr world |
09:05.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r7226 Citadel/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): zhTW/zhCN update |
09:06.05 | orionshock | an there now Broken_LFD is updated to be a more proper addon instead of a hack job.. |
09:06.17 | Torhal | It's still Broken. |
09:06.19 | Torhal | :D |
09:06.22 | DWSR | lulz. |
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09:08.32 | TNSe| | Launching a shuttle after Superfoul. |
09:08.40 | TNSe| | I find that horridly questionable tactics from NASA. |
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09:08.52 | orionshock | " Use of the word "Broken" in the addon name has no affect to what this addon does." |
09:08.53 | orionshock | :P |
09:08.55 | TNSe| | most americans are drunk today. |
09:09.15 | quiescens | <PROTECTED> |
09:09.21 | nevcairiel | most americans are morons, too |
09:09.27 | nevcairiel | they still maange to launch shuttles |
09:09.38 | TNSe| | I guess rocket science has lost some of its oomph :P |
09:09.49 | Megalon | well |
09:09.57 | Megalon | they just throw billions at it |
09:10.09 | pakoz | Anyone know of a site that has a large number of UIs posted and a rating system? something like www.ratemyui.com |
09:10.30 | Megalon | if they piled all the money up in 1$ bills |
09:10.34 | DWSR | pakoz: Curse. |
09:10.39 | pakoz | really dwsr? |
09:10.42 | DWSR | yes. |
09:10.46 | DWSR | Addon Packages now. |
09:10.48 | Megalon | they would probably also have got a staircase to the moon :P |
09:11.17 | pakoz | dwsr, where at? |
09:11.26 | Megalon | and TNSe|, rocket science needs a lot of oomph, but you have to apply at the right end of the rocket |
09:11.42 | Megalon | but I think even morons can figure out which is the right one |
09:12.11 | TNSe| | the part that points downwards? |
09:12.15 | DWSR | pakoz: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/packs/default.aspx |
09:15.17 | pakoz | Thanks dwsr, anyone else know of any other similar setups? |
09:15.33 | DWSR | WoWI has a collection |
09:23.19 | Torhal | Holy fuck, I dudn't realize there were already that many packs on Curse. |
09:23.26 | Torhal | The service has been out what, three months? |
09:24.28 | pakoz | dwsr, i can't find it ;\ |
09:24.38 | DWSR | It's pretty easy. |
09:24.39 | DWSR | Torhal: Yeah. |
09:24.47 | DWSR | pakoz: It's in there, use your noodle. |
09:25.15 | Torhal | 39 pages, each with 20 packs on it. Fucking insane. |
09:25.43 | pakoz | my noodle is sleep deprived |
09:28.15 | orionshock | Torhal, their solution is better than before i'll say. At least this way the various addons stay updated instead of rotting |
09:29.38 | Torhal | orionshock: Yeah, but 39 pages of 20 in three months? Jeebus. |
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09:30.56 | pakoz | thanks for the recommendations, gnight |
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10:34.36 | sylvanaar | man this dungeon guide thing is terrible |
10:34.44 | sylvanaar | what a hack job |
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10:35.31 | haste | it's just a new name for the party leader |
10:35.38 | haste | what would you've expected it to be? |
10:35.48 | sylvanaar | a new chat type |
10:35.53 | sylvanaar | with a translation |
10:35.59 | sylvanaar | like all the other ones |
10:36.09 | sylvanaar | CHAT_MSG_PARTY_GUIDE would have worked |
10:36.34 | haste | uhm |
10:36.38 | sylvanaar | instead in the middle of MessageEventhanlder they change they chattype from PARTY_LEADER to PARTY_GUIDE |
10:36.56 | sylvanaar | so they can get the translation from CHAT_PARTY_GUIDE_GET |
10:37.05 | haste | it's easier to do on the Lua side! |
10:37.14 | sylvanaar | that was the lua side |
10:37.21 | haste | welcome to why you have a Lua side for interface |
10:37.32 | haste | that way you don't have to change everything on the C side >:3 |
10:37.51 | sylvanaar | you aren't seeing my point |
10:38.08 | haste | I don't think I want to see your point :) |
10:38.14 | sylvanaar | probably not |
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10:41.15 | sylvanaar | anyhow - channels have always had a static name, this is the only one with a name that changes |
10:42.06 | sylvanaar | PARTY_LEADER is sometimes "Party Leader" other times "Dungeon Guide" |
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10:47.50 | haste | which is fine to solve on the Lua side of things imo |
10:49.13 | evl | Did they remove the advanced quest tracking bla bla option in 3.3? |
10:49.17 | evl | Can't find it, might be blind |
10:52.38 | MysticalOS | i noticed under prat it's always party leader, which i like since i don't like "guide" |
10:52.54 | sylvanaar | ugh - i know im fixing it |
10:53.05 | MysticalOS | no don't fix it :P |
10:53.19 | sylvanaar | thats what i was bitching about |
10:54.04 | MysticalOS | in fact change it to "Carrying this group" |
10:54.59 | MysticalOS | when you have a rogue doing 700 dps, and a warrior doing 600 dps, the tank is number 1 on damage and healer is number 2. it makes e wanna cry |
10:56.24 | MysticalOS | lesson of day, no matter how much 264 gear you have, The trio will rape you if you try to solo it. |
10:56.25 | Wobin | agrees |
10:56.25 | sylvanaar | thats the thing |
10:56.46 | sylvanaar | to be able to rename it, i had to create a chat type for it |
10:56.55 | sylvanaar | because blizard didnt |
10:56.56 | Wobin | personally I don't mind if they're not geared for the dps |
10:57.05 | Wobin | cause I'm all for helping new 80s gear up |
10:57.15 | Wobin | but those that make -no- effort whatsoever... =P |
10:57.19 | MysticalOS | i didn't say the rogue and warrior had bad gear, just bad dps |
10:57.22 | MysticalOS | lol |
10:57.34 | Wobin | eg any hunter that does <1k dps |
10:57.42 | MysticalOS | you know how often i see full T9 rogues under 1k |
10:58.57 | olafski | which trio is this? |
10:59.01 | olafski | the AQ40 one? ,) |
10:59.05 | Wobin | love is in the air |
10:59.08 | olafski | oh |
10:59.20 | olafski | yeah it seemed a step up from HH or Coren |
10:59.23 | Wobin | basically, if you don't have heals, the other colour will rape you =P |
10:59.55 | MysticalOS | they are designed to do a crap load of damage if you ignore the perfume mechanic of it, if you do not have at least 2 people with the two diff types of buff to tank the two bosses away from eachother, they do ridiculous damage., destroys soloing |
11:00.05 | MysticalOS | but if you do have the buffs then they are retardedly simple |
11:00.16 | Wobin | well, you can do it with one tank |
11:00.20 | Wobin | you just have to have a healer |
11:00.35 | MysticalOS | yeah overhealing would pull it off too |
11:00.41 | olafski | yer we did it with one tank |
11:01.00 | MysticalOS | and frye holy shit I've never tried to tank anything more annoying |
11:01.12 | MysticalOS | runs around like a wild man, drops aggro every few seconds |
11:01.43 | Wobin | you can't tank him =( |
11:01.58 | MysticalOS | well, you don't really tank him, just taunt him whenever he runs after a healer |
11:02.01 | Wobin | if you kill him first, it saves the hassle of moving after |
11:02.03 | MysticalOS | which is fairly often |
11:02.25 | MysticalOS | plus as a p;rot warrior i stun him as often as possible to sit his ass still |
11:02.27 | Wobin | cause then you just switch potions after one of the aura ones is dead and not worry about standing in stuff |
11:02.38 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r402 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
11:02.39 | Repo | created a new global chat type and event: CHAT_MSG_PARTY_GUIDE which is identical to CHAT_MSG_PARTY_LEADER. The corresponding chat type PARTY_GUIDE has its translation extracted from CHAT_PARTY_GUIDE_GET. Updated the channelnames module to support PARTY_GUIDE, other modules may need to be updated as well. |
11:02.52 | olafski | hm we just nuked it.. I guess we all used a potion but dunno which one |
11:02.59 | olafski | I left the group after one kill anyway |
11:03.14 | MysticalOS | you really need no tank for fight with potion, long as you match colors to the two |
11:03.19 | MysticalOS | dps or even healer can tank them |
11:04.12 | MysticalOS | you cannot interupt them but all stuns work too, so you can easily stun every unstable reaction cast which is the aoe fire damage that hits for about 8k |
11:05.03 | MysticalOS | with good dps you can kill first one before 2nd or 3rd are active, when you pull, first one becomes active after 8 seconds, second 16 esconds and third 24 seconds |
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11:09.11 | MysticalOS | so did 3.3.2 actually replace CHAT_MSG_PARTY_LEADER with guide or add guide to it? |
11:11.42 | sylvanaar | they just changed the channel name dynamically |
11:12.05 | sylvanaar | its really party leader |
11:12.19 | Grum | they added Guide if you are in a LFG dungeon |
11:12.31 | sylvanaar | but in the middle of chatframeMEH they change it to PARTY_GUIDE |
11:12.35 | Grum | yeah they replaced it on the spot just before they create the message |
11:12.46 | MysticalOS | ah but the message is still CHAT_MSG_PARTY_LEADER |
11:12.50 | Grum | yup |
11:14.30 | sylvanaar | its the one inconsistancy in their naming system |
11:14.33 | Grum | also the only reason they did it that way is to abuse the 'CHAT_'..type..'_GET' to get the localization from GlobalStrings.lua |
11:14.49 | sylvanaar | right |
11:15.07 | sylvanaar | its a hack |
11:15.10 | Grum | 'yet another hack' on their chatsystem |
11:15.17 | MysticalOS | now if only you can fix the taint in libwho :p |
11:15.20 | sylvanaar | so whatever I created the full chat type |
11:15.24 | sylvanaar | what taint |
11:15.48 | MysticalOS | 2/7 19:54:46.925 Global variable SetWhoToUI tainted by WIM - Interface\AddOns\WIM\Libs\LibWho-2.0\LibWho-2.0.lua:785 |
11:15.54 | MysticalOS | 2/7 19:54:46.925 Execution tainted by WIM while reading SetWhoToUI - WhoFrame:OnShow() |
11:15.59 | sylvanaar | i think i remember hearing about it - yeah it was wim related i think |
11:16.04 | MysticalOS | not sure if bug is wim or libwho tho |
11:16.49 | sylvanaar | install FuBar_WhoLibFu and see if it goes away |
11:17.55 | MysticalOS | i have latest libwho installed, since i know wim hasn't been touched in ages |
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11:18.24 | profalbert | hey, how can I get a forum on my addon-page?# |
11:18.51 | sylvanaar | i forgot what this problem was |
11:19.28 | sylvanaar | when does it happen |
11:19.33 | MysticalOS | hmm interestin i just noticed the ticket on wholib where the same taint shows up not related to wim |
11:21.41 | Torhal | profalbert: Which AddOn? |
11:22.14 | sylvanaar | he posted a debugstack |
11:22.19 | sylvanaar | you posted a taintlog |
11:23.40 | profalbert | Torhal: Parrot could need one the most I think. it's ckknight's addon though |
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11:25.38 | profalbert | So it's only created on personal request? |
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11:36.27 | Torhal | profalbert: Aye. Parrot now has a forum. |
11:36.33 | profalbert | Torhal: thanks |
11:36.57 | Torhal | np |
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11:45.29 | sylvanaar | MysticalOS: i wish i could remember what that bug was about now |
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11:53.36 | sylvanaar | oh i see- anything that hooks SetWhoToUI will taint the friends frame |
11:57.27 | sylvanaar | or friendsframe_onevent |
11:58.06 | sylvanaar | idk, nm i can do about that - thats how wholib works |
11:58.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7229 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: |
11:58.25 | Repo | Warn every 2 stacks of buffet, in case people are doing the achievement |
11:58.26 | Repo | . |
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12:00.14 | haste | people still use parrot :P ? |
12:00.37 | profalbert | obviously, else I would quit |
12:02.00 | haste | sounds like a horrible reason to play the game then |
12:02.15 | profalbert | not quit playing |
12:03.02 | profalbert | I thought of writing some new Addon, that is a bit more decoupled. |
12:03.08 | profalbert | Like one addon just for displaying stuff |
12:03.29 | profalbert | one for the combat-events, and one for making triggers, or so |
12:03.56 | sylvanaar | MysticalOS: do you still have the problem with x-realm whos |
12:04.33 | profalbert | Also, the display-module is the only thing in Parrot that isn't ... well |
12:04.35 | profalbert | <PROTECTED> |
12:05.03 | sylvanaar | i like parrots event building system |
12:05.35 | profalbert | It's quite inefficient |
12:05.58 | sylvanaar | its efficient enough for me i guess |
12:07.01 | profalbert | MSBT can do it with much less resource-usage (CPU and memory) |
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12:27.28 | sylvanaar | i think that the new lfg stuff introduced something thats causing the friendsframe to get tainted |
12:28.32 | Fisker | no u |
12:30.53 | Megalon | Fisker taints it |
12:33.07 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2545 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
12:33.58 | MysticalOS | at the time of the tank I am pretty sure was in raid group in ulduar farming charms |
12:34.02 | MysticalOS | taint* |
12:34.44 | MysticalOS | whispering away while i lol spammed anti rocket at the ground :) |
12:36.10 | MysticalOS | by which point my demo got to like 18% health pretty fast and i soon realized i was soloing ulduar trash on 25 man instead of 10 man. |
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12:38.34 | Fisker | MysticalOS |
12:38.37 | Fisker | name and realm? |
12:39.55 | MysticalOS | of char i was on at the time? or main? |
12:43.57 | sylvanaar | i think it might be UIDropDownMenu - it was changed in 3.3 |
12:44.51 | nevcairiel | the default friend list is not tainted |
12:45.27 | nevcairiel | and everything taints UIDropDown stuff, yet the friendlist survives :D |
12:46.04 | MysticalOS | yeah xperl taints stuff all the time but nothing breaks :) |
12:46.19 | MysticalOS | just makes spammy log |
12:46.49 | MysticalOS | all i have to do is right click a UI frame in combat and it taints. but doesn't really break anything |
12:47.18 | MysticalOS | that i've noticed anyways |
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13:10.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7231 Citadel (3 files in 2 directories): |
13:10.28 | Repo | * Citadel/Sindragosa: Delete a locale, we don't need it anymore. |
13:10.29 | Repo | * Update deDE: Change wording for Putricide, add the Lich King. |
13:11.42 | sylvanaar | MysticalOS: yeah that'd be uidropdownmenu |
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13:21.36 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r19 / (2 files in 2 directories): Bug fixes |
13:21.50 | Repo | Option to show Quest Names in the tooltip |
13:29.14 | sylvanaar | i wonder if there is a way to add things to unitpopups without tainting them |
13:29.44 | sylvanaar | MysticalOS: did you click on a party frame or raid frame? |
13:32.25 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel * r95 Quartz.lua: |
13:32.26 | Repo | Show a warning on first login after upgrade from the old Ace2 version, reminding the user to re-configure Quartz. |
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14:05.52 | mitch0 | nev: why didn't you do the auto-conversion? :P |
14:06.50 | nevcairiel | converting is a pita |
14:11.38 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
14:15.58 | koaschten | anyone recently added a GTC to his/her account? |
14:16.15 | koaschten | just trying and its not accepting the code, whats the way of resolving this? |
14:16.27 | koaschten | its not saying the code is wrong it just states a general error |
14:18.11 | Fisker | try another browser |
14:18.13 | Fisker | or clear the cache |
14:18.30 | Fisker | otherwise it's probably just a temporary issue |
14:18.32 | koaschten | i tried 3 browsers on 2 machines |
14:18.35 | koaschten | ;) |
14:18.43 | koaschten | so 6 scenarios failing |
14:20.38 | Fisker | all of your computers fail then |
14:21.12 | evl | koaschten: eu or us? |
14:21.12 | koaschten | eu |
14:23.07 | wink | anyone knows if by chance I can get a channel full of bash people on this network? (bash as in /bin/bash, yes) |
14:23.54 | steev | wink: any linux channel |
14:24.23 | wink | well, most of those are horrible |
14:24.34 | evl | koaschten: I previously had some problems with that, waited a day or so |
14:24.43 | wink | and the one I'm lurking in didn't bring any results. anyway here's the problem: |
14:24.44 | evl | wink: question one, what are you trying to do :P |
14:25.22 | steev | koaschten: make sure your clock is set right on your computer |
14:25.54 | wink | alias vi='vim' < works, ofc // alias vi='vim $*; do_something' < does not work in bash, because $* is bound at alias definiton. workaround would be function vi() { vim "$*"; do_something; } < but function does NOT override binaries in $PATH |
14:26.12 | koaschten | steev its online synced and matches the time time within a few seconds with the realm server time |
14:26.27 | koaschten | (and yes, the server is in the same timezone as i am) |
14:26.51 | evl | wink: everything is passed on to the result afail, so alias vi="vim";vim whatever should work like a charm |
14:27.27 | evl | wink: alternative echo "/usr/bin/vim $1" >> /usr/bin/vi;chmod +x /usr/bin/vi |
14:27.43 | evl | probably something else than $1, don't remember atm |
14:27.59 | wink | evl: well, the important part is to run another command AFTER vim has closed |
14:28.14 | wink | that's why the implicit $* in first example has to be in the middle |
14:28.15 | evl | wink: then go with the script |
14:28.20 | evl | wink: and call it vi |
14:28.25 | wink | and I wanted to avoid a local file |
14:28.30 | wink | that's basically the point |
14:28.37 | evl | Ahh, I get it :/ |
14:29.02 | wink | and $1 vs $* shouldn't matter, same problem |
14:29.12 | koaschten | uhm |
14:29.24 | koaschten | when did they exchange the undercity abominations with kor'krons? |
14:29.33 | evl | last patch afaik |
14:32.31 | wink | aha!, I solved |
14:32.35 | wink | I forgot unalias vi |
14:32.42 | wink | so it was always calling the old alias |
14:32.48 | wink | which did override the function |
14:32.50 | wink | head->desk |
14:33.00 | wink | globals = crap |
14:36.50 | mitch0 | $@ |
14:39.11 | Xtek | Morning |
14:47.16 | asmodai | heya Xtek |
14:47.29 | Xtek | Hey. |
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14:51.21 | steev | penny arcade is pretty awesome today |
14:51.26 | Grum | url :( |
14:54.35 | quiescens | "today" is so ambiguous on the internet |
14:56.22 | steev | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
14:56.28 | Torhal | quiescens: That's why I killed Fisker next week. |
14:58.17 | SunTsu | wink: mkdir ~/bin; PATH=~/bin:$PATH;ln `which vim` ~/bin/vi |
14:58.49 | Arrowmaster | steev: thats not from today |
14:58.51 | wink | that's not even doing one of the things I wanted :) |
14:59.33 | SunTsu | wink: then I really didn't get your problem |
14:59.39 | wink | nvm :P |
14:59.42 | wink | it's solved |
15:01.30 | steev | Arrowmaster: whatever |
15:01.39 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
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15:01.57 | Arrowmaster | its from 3 days ago |
15:02.46 | steev | i don't see a date on it |
15:03.07 | Arrowmaster | press previous then next |
15:03.21 | Arrowmaster | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/5/ |
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15:08.19 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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15:09.22 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r20 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
15:09.24 | Repo | You asked for filters, you get a huge list of categories (The zone menu) |
15:09.25 | Repo | Filter Icons and Tooltips by category filters. |
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15:11.37 | Fisker | don't kill me Torhal |
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15:12.54 | kadrahil | fiskerq |
15:13.24 | Torhal | Fisker: I can't, anyway. Wobin is the one who took so much speed he's in the future. |
15:14.03 | Wobin | Hello from tuesday |
15:14.22 | kadrahil | we had these dry-erase boards put up in our offices here at work |
15:14.37 | kadrahil | except they weren't actually boards, they were large sheets of dry erase material plastered to the walls |
15:14.47 | kadrahil | so it was a seamless flat surface |
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15:15.08 | kadrahil | they put them up on friday and they were all on the floor this morning. |
15:15.31 | kadrahil | real nice product there |
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15:27.53 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): Disable Data Loading while InCombatLockdown() |
15:28.07 | Repo | Add warning to data loading option (pretty intensive searching, perhaps change EQG data to include zoneid, will cut down on read times) |
15:30.06 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz 04r22-beta * r22 : Created tag r22-beta. |
15:34.44 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1297 / (11 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
15:34.46 | Repo | - Enabled CoE/Ebon Plague/Earth and Moon calculation for Rogues and Hunters (for poisons, envenom etc.) |
15:34.47 | Repo | - Rogue Poisons now properly inherit all the spellhit and spellcrit they should from buffs/talents |
15:34.48 | Repo | - Gouge doesn't cause poison procs |
15:34.49 | Repo | - Implemented calculation of Half-Physical, Half-Magic attacks so that they no longer need a second buff/debuff iteration |
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15:41.02 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r127 LibQTip-1.0.lua: |
15:43.44 | Repo | In AcquireTooltip(): Fixed typo in the name of the parent of scrollChild. |
15:43.45 | Repo | New function: tipPrototype:SetCellMarginH() - sets the tooltip's horizontal cell margin. Only usable before adding lines. |
15:43.47 | Repo | New function: tipPrototype:SetCellMarginV() - sets the tooltip's vertical cell margin. Only usable before adding lines. |
15:43.48 | Repo | Changed some whitespace formatting in the code. |
15:43.49 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r153 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fix SideNone filter (applies to new valentines day quests) |
15:43.50 | Repo | Maybe fix annoying server query bug |
15:43.52 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r154-beta * r154 : Created tag r154-beta. |
15:45.38 | Axodious | oh man sonic the hedgehog 4 in 2d again |
15:45.40 | Axodious | can't wait |
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15:55.29 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 04r128-release * r128 : Tagging as r128-release |
15:55.30 | Repo | 10loot-council: 03kandarz * r23 LootCouncil.lua: Comment out testing data |
15:55.31 | Repo | 10loot-council: 03kandarz 04r24-beta * r24 : Created tag r24-beta. |
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16:02.43 | steev | anyone know a "runscript" to untrack all achievements? |
16:02.52 | steev | i'm apparently tracking some that are already completed |
16:03.04 | steev | so when i try to track more than 3, its telling me i'm already tracking 10 |
16:06.09 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r23 addon.lua: Save new filters to character data |
16:06.11 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz 04r24-beta * r24 : Created tag r24-beta. |
16:06.12 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel * r96 modules/Pet.lua: |
16:06.14 | Repo | Always apply the "Hide Blizzard Cast Bar" option, even when our bar is disabled. |
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16:25.20 | quiescens | o.o |
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16:38.10 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r129 LibQTip-1.0.lua: Urk. Forgot to up the MINOR. |
16:39.26 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 04r130-release * r130 : Tagging as r130-release |
16:42.51 | Silmano | lua> print(8.43%10); |
16:42.52 | lua_bot | Silmano: 8.43 |
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16:46.43 | olafski | who would have guessed |
16:47.13 | arkanes | might have been 8 |
16:48.04 | olafski | really? :s |
16:48.09 | olafski | because he used 10 instead of 10.0? |
16:48.19 | arkanes | coulda been |
17:01.24 | Kaelten | g'morning |
17:02.06 | Torhal | Kaelten: He lives! |
17:02.16 | Kaelten | not really |
17:02.18 | Kalroth | are you sure |
17:02.19 | Kaelten | Im tired |
17:02.19 | Kalroth | haha |
17:02.21 | Kaelten | and it's snowing |
17:02.28 | Kalroth | steals Kaeltens coffee. |
17:03.21 | Axodious | http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/halolz-dot-com-pokemon-koffing-coffee-comic.gif |
17:03.29 | Axodious | "This Koffing comic is a pretty accurate representation of my mood every time I go to Starbucks!" |
17:05.51 | Ackis | is that a pokemon? |
17:05.55 | haste | yes |
17:06.06 | Ackis | fuck pokemon |
17:06.14 | Ackis | they release 1000 games that are all the same storyline |
17:06.21 | Ackis | and my fiancee is hooked on the damn things |
17:06.34 | nicoli_s | lol |
17:06.40 | Shadowed | Ackis: could be worst |
17:06.43 | nicoli_s | i played the shit out of the original 2 |
17:06.43 | Shadowed | she could play the card game |
17:07.14 | Ackis | Shadowed: because of her I've spent about $5k on the wow tcg/mini's :P (I could've said no, so it's partially my fault) |
17:07.28 | Shadowed | And you're complaining about HER addiction? :P |
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17:07.51 | Ackis | she wanted to play, etc... and then all of a sudden was "no I don't want to play anymore" |
17:07.56 | arkanes | only *partly* your fault? |
17:08.09 | Ackis | fine, none of it is my fault! |
17:08.09 | arkanes | I hope you at least got a chicken |
17:08.14 | Axodious | you could have spent over $9k |
17:08.18 | Axodious | see what i did there? |
17:08.25 | Ackis | I hate you all |
17:08.56 | Shadowed | no you don't, you love us |
17:08.59 | Shadowed | except Fisker |
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17:13.33 | quiescens | o.o |
17:13.55 | quiescens | ebil |
17:15.29 | Kaelten | ~comfort Ackis |
17:15.30 | purl | There, there, Ackis. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
17:17.08 | kagaro | Ackis i feel for you |
17:17.53 | Ackis | hi kagaro |
17:17.57 | Ackis | how's it going? |
17:18.01 | kagaro | could bebetter |
17:18.11 | Ackis | :( |
17:18.34 | kagaro | lets just say I just started the job hunting process |
17:18.58 | Ackis | ugh I'm sorry man |
17:19.04 | kagaro | it happens |
17:19.11 | quiescens | positive spin |
17:19.15 | quiescens | ~ |
17:19.43 | kagaro | you have too |
17:19.51 | kagaro | or go insane |
17:19.56 | kagaro | with startups |
17:21.26 | Torhal | kagaro: No more 18-hour days? |
17:22.12 | kagaro | for the forseeable future i dont think so, rumor mill is we got bought out over the weekend so gota wait and see |
17:24.31 | kagaro | Torhal: its a crap shoot |
17:25.15 | Axodious | man, windows is so much more responsive when roaming profiles isn't enabled ~_~ |
17:29.38 | kagaro | roaming profiles are evil |
17:30.11 | Axodious | just redid my home server which i use for test purposes |
17:30.25 | Axodious | instead of roaming profiles just enabled folder redirect on important folders (documents, favorites, etc) |
17:31.03 | Axodious | anyway afk |
17:33.47 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
17:33.50 | Fisker | you tried to kill me |
17:34.27 | Torhal | Fisker: Not yet. Next week. |
17:41.51 | quiescens | no harm in pushing the timetable forward is there? |
17:45.51 | Torhal | quiescens: He'll expect that. |
17:47.11 | arkanes | so by keeping to the published schedule, you're trying to surprise him? |
17:47.27 | arkanes | but now you'll never be able to kill him at all! You've created a logical paradox! |
17:48.39 | Torhal | arkanes: arkanes: Shhhh |
17:48.52 | Torhal | Doubletab! |
17:50.04 | quiescens | if i doubletab it goes to the next person ): |
17:51.38 | Torhal | Same here, but I tab completed, was distracted, typed and tabbed again |
17:56.23 | quiescens | hax |
18:00.12 | Ackis | Torhal: distracted? found your pen fifteen again? |
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18:00.59 | Pneumatus | so yeh, analysing one of our stats processes at work today to find i'd managed to get a query into production that was taking about 3 hours to execute :o |
18:01.08 | Pneumatus | and considering 2.9bn records |
18:01.28 | durcyn | fire all DBAs. into the sun. |
18:01.39 | quiescens | how often does this 3 hour query need to be executed |
18:01.40 | quiescens | o.o |
18:01.57 | Pneumatus | once a day, but it shouldn't have been executing for anywhere near that time |
18:02.09 | Pneumatus | it was left joining an unrestricted table w/ no index lookup |
18:02.16 | quiescens | grats |
18:02.28 | Pneumatus | and subquerying the result... it should have only been considering 100k records at most |
18:02.34 | Pneumatus | not 2.9bn |
18:03.08 | Torhal | Ackis: HAX |
18:03.23 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: so... what did you do? |
18:03.35 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: rewrote it into 3 separate queries |
18:03.44 | Pneumatus | that now run in <1sec |
18:03.53 | Gnarfoz | and achieve the same result? |
18:04.10 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
18:04.18 | Gnarfoz | hey, moron of the day |
18:04.36 | Pneumatus | well, to the same end although the determinism of the sorting has changed slightly |
18:04.40 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: which DBMS, if I may ask? |
18:04.45 | Pneumatus | mysql |
18:04.53 | quiescens | clearly the solution is transactions |
18:04.56 | Gnarfoz | I see |
18:05.10 | Pneumatus | we can't use transactions |
18:05.24 | Pneumatus | the performance hit from the overhead is unacceptible |
18:06.50 | Gnarfoz | oO |
18:06.55 | Gnarfoz | so you use MyISAM? |
18:07.01 | Pneumatus | nope, innodb |
18:07.14 | Gnarfoz | now I'm confused :D |
18:07.39 | quiescens | using transactions for the specific parts that need it shouldn't be too bad ): |
18:08.02 | Pneumatus | maybe, but we're generally only inserting 1 row to 1 table at once |
18:08.10 | Gnarfoz | do you... have to start transactions manually w/ mysql? |
18:09.21 | Pneumatus | well, we use the Spring framework to manage database stuff, and afaik you configure spring to either use transactions or not use transactions |
18:09.55 | Gnarfoz | I only ever used mysql for non-critical stuff, hence it was myisam, which doesn't do transactions anyway. and I just finished my Oracle OCP certification, so now my head is full of Oracle stuff, and I can't really imagine how you would do non-transactional stuff on a storage engine that has support for transactions |
18:10.40 | arkanes | Pneumatus: how much is the transaction overhead? |
18:11.16 | Pneumatus | arkanes: nfi these days, but it was unacceptably high last time we had transactions running |
18:11.20 | quiescens | using transactions for the stuff that really needs it shouldn't really be a significant overhead ): |
18:11.40 | arkanes | indeed |
18:11.49 | Pneumatus | that's the point, we don't do much that would ever actually need it |
18:11.51 | arkanes | there's usually lots better solutions than "not use transactions" |
18:11.57 | quiescens | then that's even better |
18:12.02 | quiescens | then you only use it for the parts that do |
18:12.04 | arkanes | and if you can really just stop using them, using an RDBMS to begin with was probably a mistake |
18:12.21 | arkanes | that said, the overhead from them in a good database is minimal |
18:12.35 | arkanes | well, "good" |
18:12.45 | Pneumatus | we're inserting tens of rows a second, on average |
18:12.55 | arkanes | that's... very small |
18:13.08 | arkanes | certainly nowhere near a level you should be caring about exception overhead |
18:13.23 | arkanes | what DB did you say you were using? |
18:13.24 | Pneumatus | but we're constantly processing said data |
18:13.27 | Pneumatus | mysql |
18:13.30 | arkanes | ah |
18:14.09 | arkanes | I dont know how mysql implements theirs |
18:14.28 | arkanes | but I would not be surprised to find out that you were dealing with a table lock blocking inserts |
18:15.15 | Pneumatus | well, our table keys are held in JVM at the moment, but we really need to sort that out so we can run multiple JVMs concurrently |
18:15.51 | steev | we use mysql and postgres here |
18:15.58 | arkanes | every time I talk with someone who's using mysql I just become more and more happy that I' |
18:16.03 | arkanes | I've never had to do anything with it |
18:16.30 | arkanes | <3 postgres, although I've never had the opportunity to do anything really big with it |
18:16.55 | arkanes | Pneumatus: regardless though, 10s of inserts per second is a tiny, tiny workload, even with transaction and even with querying the tables all the time |
18:17.07 | arkanes | I do a similar workload on a sqlite database without even thinking about it |
18:17.45 | arkanes | transaction overhead being a problem for you might mean there's something else going on that you're not catching |
18:17.54 | Pneumatus | perhaps |
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18:18.59 | quiescens | transaction overhead could still be a problem if the transactions aren't done right, using a transaction over entire swathes of queries that don't really need it isn't good either |
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18:19.24 | arkanes | well, I'm kind of biased |
18:19.46 | arkanes | not having transactions means not having data integrity - it's about the rollbacks, as much as it is consistent views of data |
18:20.01 | arkanes | and I don't see the point to having a database engine if you're going to use it for data integrity |
18:20.05 | Gnarfoz | I thought mysql only has table locks? |
18:20.10 | arkanes | does it? |
18:20.12 | Pneumatus | innodb has row locks |
18:20.13 | Gnarfoz | or is that only with myisam |
18:20.13 | Pneumatus | afaik |
18:20.30 | Pneumatus | myisam only has table locks though, yeh |
18:20.38 | Gnarfoz | that'd be bad |
18:20.39 | Gnarfoz | :p |
18:20.45 | arkanes | postgres handles this reader/writer issue in a much better way than mysql does, though |
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18:21.00 | Gnarfoz | well, you have to lock at level |
18:21.10 | Pneumatus | we're not especially worried about integrity though, as we're only doing statistical analysis of data, essentially |
18:21.22 | Pneumatus | a few missing records here and there isn't the end of the world, as such |
18:21.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: can I bother you to change the topic? it's fucking february, not quite "happy new year" time anymore xD |
18:21.27 | arkanes | Pneumatus: I was wondering, given what you said about your insert/query patterns |
18:22.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: gimme something new |
18:22.10 | arkanes | Pneumatus: I'd suggest that an RDBMS isn't really the best engine for that |
18:22.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: s/ | Happy New Year!// |
18:22.10 | arkanes | how about something you can use? |
18:22.10 | arkanes | drity laundry? |
18:22.41 | quiescens | that's a bit heavy handed o.o |
18:22.45 | arkanes | this is an awesome photo: http://spaceweather.com/submissions/large_image_popup.php?image_name=Richard-S.-Wright-Jr.-LastNighLaunch_1265622144.jpg |
18:23.34 | quiescens | i'm sure there are viable uses of rdbms that don't involve queries that require transactions |
18:23.41 | harl | my realmpool is currently lagging that much, i just needed a solid 5 minutes to turn in a quest |
18:23.48 | Pneumatus | but writing an unindexed query that considered 2.9bn records and took 3 hours to execute was bad :< |
18:24.11 | arkanes | quiescens: well, queries don't require transactions of course |
18:24.29 | arkanes | so sure, you might say that a set of totally static tables was one such use case |
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19:18.03 | Groktar | hmm |
19:18.23 | Groktar | i'm thinking the 42x42 tree icons could be a tad big |
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19:26.45 | sylvanaar_work | god linus said he likes his nexus one - now all the linux fanbois will *have* to have one |
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19:27.19 | arkanes | I've never understood the motivations of people who complain about "fanboys" |
19:27.57 | arkanes | especially pre-emptively |
19:28.11 | sylvanaar_work | its a pejorative |
19:28.33 | arkanes | so you're mad because linux said he liked his phone and now you think some people you don't care about will buy one |
19:28.42 | sylvanaar_work | im not mad |
19:28.45 | arkanes | *linus, of course |
19:28.49 | arkanes | you sound mad |
19:29.18 | sylvanaar_work | i think its closer to mild annoyance |
19:29.29 | arkanes | because he said he liked his phone? |
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19:29.50 | sylvanaar_work | because it will become super trendy |
19:29.54 | arkanes | ... |
19:30.04 | arkanes | yes, linus is famous for starting trends |
19:30.12 | arkanes | but granted thats true, whats wrong it it becoming trendy? |
19:30.19 | sylvanaar_work | nothing |
19:30.32 | arkanes | so why does it annoy you? |
19:31.21 | nevcairiel | so he is not allowed to be anything else then neutral just because some idiots have to follow his every step? =P |
19:31.32 | nevcairiel | blame them, not him |
19:31.47 | Repo | 10auracle: 03taleden * r93 Auracle.toc: - 1.2.0 release |
19:31.49 | sylvanaar_work | im not blaming anyone - im just annoyed at my vision of the future |
19:31.58 | arkanes | people using the nexus one? |
19:32.02 | sylvanaar_work | i have one |
19:32.06 | arkanes | thats some serious dystopian shit there |
19:32.06 | sylvanaar_work | its in a box |
19:32.17 | arkanes | ok? |
19:32.24 | sylvanaar_work | i have been trying to return in for 1 month |
19:32.39 | arkanes | maybe you can sell it to a linux fanboy |
19:32.42 | sylvanaar_work | they said they have "computer problems" and lost my RMA |
19:32.53 | Repo | 10auracle: 03taleden 041.2.0 * r94 : Tagging as 1.2.0 |
19:33.36 | arkanes | so you're irritated because you're getting poor technical support on the same phone that linus likes, and other people who you don't like might buy one |
19:33.38 | sylvanaar_work | then when i gave them the number they said - we'll email you shipping info by end of day - i have done this 3 times now |
19:34.11 | arkanes | surely you should be happy, because now either all the people you don't like will also get bad support, or they will improve support to handle the flood of new customers |
19:34.43 | Nechckn | fanboy-ism is annoying because you cannot have any discussion involving logic. And that is very annoying. |
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19:34.55 | sylvanaar_work | i dont care i just dont like fanbois |
19:35.31 | arkanes | sylvanaar_work: well that doesn't sound very logical |
19:36.59 | sylvanaar_work | arkanes: im not a vulcan |
19:37.54 | arkanes | :( |
19:47.05 | Primer | wonders if sylvanaar is secretly a mac fanboy |
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20:01.20 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.6-release-1-gec25da4 SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking/core.lua: [+1 commit] Local L for localizations not global |
20:02.37 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * beta5-7-g87926eb / (5 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
20:02.38 | Repo | 87926eb: Added the "Toxic Wasteling" to the Pet database. |
20:02.40 | Repo | fedab4c: Added the "Big Love Rocket" to the Mount database. |
20:02.40 | Repo | 1933c4a: Added "Apothecary Hummel" to the Mob database. |
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20:03.28 | Primer | Speaking of that Valentine's day daily...anyone know what the level requirement is for picking up the quest? |
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20:06.06 | pompy | Primer: looks like any, http://www.wowhead.com/?guide=love-is-in-the-air#random-daily-quests |
20:06.29 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/?guide=love-is-in-the-air#main-questline |
20:07.19 | Primer | no, the instance |
20:07.39 | Primer | like brewfest and headless horseman required level 75 |
20:07.46 | nevcairiel | wooo google maps on android finally got multi touch |
20:07.47 | Primer | and dropped item level 200 |
20:07.57 | Primer | whereas this one drops 226 |
20:08.19 | Primer | I have a 76 druid, and was hoping to get some welfare epics, if people would be willing to carry me |
20:08.48 | pompy | Primer: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=14488 |
20:09.04 | Primer | I looked for this the other day I couldn't find it |
20:09.32 | Primer | ok, requires 75! excellent |
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20:12.29 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2546 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): - Adjust Arena set prices |
20:12.31 | Repo | - small adjustements |
20:14.42 | sylvanaar_work | nevcairiel: yeah, thats what made linus like it |
20:14.58 | nevcairiel | heh |
20:15.04 | nevcairiel | i just updated my droid |
20:15.35 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/08/linus-torvalds-is-now-a-happy-nexus-one-owner-pinch-to-zoom-put/ |
20:16.28 | sylvanaar_work | no even better - his blog |
20:16.30 | sylvanaar_work | http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2010/02/happy-camper.html |
20:19.29 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r251 / (2 files in 2 directories): cologne |
20:20.33 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * beta5-8-gb633eb2 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update changelog and turn it on. |
20:24.36 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Torhal 04beta6 * 8744dc8 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta6 |
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20:29.54 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2547 Documentation/Release_Notes.txt: Release Notes updated |
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20:48.25 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1298 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
20:48.39 | Repo | - Now does more matching of abilities to their buffs/debuffs at loadup. This will increase memory cost by a bit but reduce CPU usage during updates |
20:53.35 | Repo | 10project-13908: 03Smuggles * r59 FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua: included addon date and version info |
20:54.39 | Repo | 10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles * r52 FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua: included addon date and version info |
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20:58.24 | Pneumatus | anyone know what blessing of wisdom is in spanish? |
20:58.49 | Pneumatus | ohwait, wowhead |
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21:04.01 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1299 Aura.lua: - Added GBoW to the same category as BoW |
21:04.28 | Gagorian | Pneumatus: That reminded me I had something to do ;) |
21:09.20 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.2-1.0.2-1-gaa5156e Prefixes.lua: [+1 commit] Added detection of Raid Watch 2, renamed the entry for LibQuixote-2.0 (users won't care who wrote it!), and normalized formatting of whitespace. |
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21:28.52 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1300 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
21:28.54 | Repo | - Fixed an issue introduced in previous commits regarding the aura calculation of double spells like Shadowflame |
21:31.07 | Fisker | i would Torhal |
21:31.12 | Fisker | so you better revert that |
21:37.08 | Torhal | Fisker: NEIN! |
21:37.21 | Torhal | You wouldn't. |
21:41.46 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps * r79 Castbars.lua: |
21:41.48 | Repo | - Add display of pushback when spells are delayed due to interruptions. |
21:41.49 | Repo | - Fix the alignment of the spell text so it is always centered in the free space. |
21:44.01 | Shadowed | This remix UI dead thread is amazing |
21:44.22 | Shadowed | It's basically compilation authors going "SCREW AUTHOR RIGHTS I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT" |
21:44.49 | Torhal | Shadowed: That's being re-hashed again? Yay! |
21:44.55 | Shadowed | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23042534805&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
21:44.57 | Torhal | i'm just glad it isn't WoWMatrix this time. |
21:49.02 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1301 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Small optimization in the caster module |
21:53.05 | Gagorian | Shadowed: "Addon author drama ftw. It's sad that somebody would care so much about some LUA code that is easily repeatable by any nitwit with a book and some experience in photoshop that was disseminated on the internet for free. No better than the music industry. " |
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21:53.17 | Gagorian | *facepalm* |
21:53.53 | Torhal | Gagorian: I personally use The GIMP to write all of my code. |
21:53.57 | Torhal | cackles. |
21:55.42 | Repo | 10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.30 * r80 : Tagging as 2.30 |
21:56.21 | Shadowed | Gagorian: Lua Lua Lua Lua! |
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21:58.11 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: where's krka when you need him |
21:58.36 | Gnarfoz | (I know he has repo blacklisted, but that could be improved... parse the commit message for author name, etc. :D) |
21:58.50 | Shadowed | Gagorian: isn't repo Gnarfoz :p |
21:59.22 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: oh shi- |
22:01.11 | Gagorian | Shadowed: That's what I said |
22:01.13 | Gagorian | ! |
22:01.25 | Shadowed | oh, is that someones quote? |
22:01.50 | Fisker | look at my Gnarfoz my Gnarfoz's amazing |
22:02.22 | Torhal | Shadowed: Yes |
22:02.26 | Shadowed | amazing |
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22:02.42 | Torhal | Shadowed: This idiot actually thinks "LUA" is done with "a book and photoshop" |
22:02.43 | Gagorian | Shadowed: That's why I put the quotes around it! |
22:02.53 | Gagorian | Plus it's from your thread |
22:02.55 | Gagorian | :p |
22:02.58 | Torhal | Aye |
22:03.35 | Shadowed | I didn't read it after I linked it! |
22:03.57 | Gagorian | Fail! |
22:04.06 | Gagorian | Is it since 5.1 varargs no longer creates a new table? |
22:04.26 | Shadowed | no 5.1 still does it, it's based on how you compile it as far as I know |
22:04.43 | Shadowed | in wow it doesn't |
22:11.07 | Repo | 10visualheal: 03xbeeps 0410.9 * r60 : Tagging as 10.9 |
22:12.07 | sylvanaar_work | what the hell is that thread about - im out of the loop |
22:12.36 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: just crazy compilation authors |
22:13.08 | sylvanaar_work | no, who didnt want thier addon in it |
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22:13.44 | Shadowed | Adys: ping |
22:13.55 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: Unknown, I assume it was STUF or something along those lines since he said it was a core addon |
22:17.22 | sylvanaar_work | carbonite? thats what i got from the thread |
22:18.31 | Gagorian | Don't think it was Carbonite |
22:18.54 | Gagorian | he was just saying he was going to do some stuff with Carbonite if he wouldn't have quit making it |
22:19.04 | Gagorian | At least that's how I understood it |
22:19.10 | Shadowed | if Carbonite was a core part of a UI I would question a lot of things |
22:19.41 | sylvanaar_work | i liked its minimap thingy |
22:20.02 | sylvanaar_work | thats about it |
22:20.22 | Shadowed | The minimap thing was fancy, but not my tastes |
22:22.50 | Gagorian | I don't even know what Carbonite is |
22:22.51 | Gagorian | :D |
22:23.15 | arkanes | isnt carbonite blacklisted by wow now anyway? |
22:23.21 | Shadowed | huh, why would it be? |
22:23.25 | arkanes | not taht I can think of how they'd blacklist it without a workaround |
22:23.28 | Shadowed | It got switched to free when they outlawed paid addons |
22:23.57 | arkanes | ah, that same patch introduced a badaddons file, so I assumed that carbonite was nixed |
22:23.57 | orionshock | there code is still garbled a bit, but not as bad as before when you couldn't open it up in a text editor w/o it crashing |
22:24.31 | Megalon | orionshock: you are using weird texteditors |
22:24.42 | arkanes | seriously |
22:24.43 | orionshock | gedit on Ubuntu |
22:25.05 | orionshock | opening a 10mb file is a pain regardless |
22:25.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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22:25.38 | Gagorian | Carbonite's source looks like someone vomited into the texteditor |
22:28.17 | Gagorian | License agreement "The Software (in both object and source code forms) constitutes valuable trade secret information of Company, and You may not reverse-engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software or otherwise attempt to gain access to the source code for the Software. " |
22:28.48 | Gagorian | Well with that kind of code I'd rather rewrite it than even attempt to :D |
22:29.11 | Gnarfoz | void agreements are fun <3 |
22:29.26 | orionshock | well despite the "Addon Policy" by blizzard that is not legally binding, it's an asshole move to make in a license agreement in a predominantly open source community |
22:29.26 | Gnarfoz | (sadly, they are not available in all jurisdictions ^^) |
22:29.39 | arkanes | thats a silly boilerplate license they copied from somewhere else of course |
22:30.02 | arkanes | since it's ridiculously inapplicable to code thats distributed in source form |
22:31.04 | Megalon | it's like those e-mail footers |
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22:31.53 | Megalon | "if you are not the designated recipient of this e-mail you have to kill yourself. now" |
22:32.26 | Megalon | just with a more bloomy wording used |
22:38.44 | Gagorian | NeoTron: Had time to check up on that T10 thing yet? |
22:41.09 | NeoTron | no I forgot. :P |
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22:48.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7232 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: |
22:48.36 | Repo | Add back the unchained magic warning crap because our casters suck. |
22:49.04 | Torhal | Classic: This is from Slouken on October 27th, 2007... |
22:49.09 | Torhal | "Thanks, I've forwarded this to the engineer. We're aware of the fragility of the UI dropdown menus with regards to tainting, but fixing it involves a major rewrite of the dropdown system, and I don't think we'll have time for that in 2.3. It's definitely on our list though, and we'll keep this info for testing!" |
22:49.22 | Torhal | It's still broken! |
22:49.24 | Torhal | Hah |
22:50.43 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1302 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Removed an unnecessary variable from the modules |
22:51.44 | Ingela^ | sb|work, fuck lich king... the infest thing does like 7k damage |
22:51.50 | Gagorian | I mostly wonder how they've managed to implement stuff in such a strange way that changing a seemingly unrelated thing breaks another |
22:51.50 | Ingela^ | not enough to get a shield fully absorbed |
22:52.15 | Gagorian | Plus how for example, items can bug out and not be disenchantable.. You'd think that'd be the default for an item |
22:55.04 | Gagorian | My damage/healing calculation code is probably less bugged than Blizzard's and I always have to write exceptions for stuff they've broken |
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22:56.19 | Torhal | Gagorian: ou mean for stuff that is "now working as intended"? |
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22:59.14 | durcyn | Gagorian: someone's trying to keep themselves employed, it's very simple. |
22:59.15 | Gagorian | Torhal: Amongst others yes |
22:59.42 | arkanes | it seems pretty clear that wow is really heavly script & data driven on the server side |
22:59.49 | arkanes | also highly asynchronous |
22:59.53 | Pneumatus | and that's just the CMs |
23:00.20 | arkanes | so it's not surprising that there's lots of bugs, what does surprise me is that they do such a poor job of regression testing internally |
23:00.38 | Thrae | Yes yes, let's just all say "EVE" is the one that bit from apple of knowledge and not "WoW" |
23:01.13 | Gagorian | I've discovered tens if not hundreds of small bugs in the calculations here and there.. and I'm not even getting paid! |
23:01.18 | arkanes | stuff like the recent scourge strike and devestate problems make no sense to me |
23:02.11 | arkanes | Gagorian: the fact that their class designers don't have to do those calculations seperately probably contributes to the problem |
23:02.25 | Gagorian | What devastate problem btw? |
23:02.26 | Thrae | You see, the problem with WoW's databases is that a) Slouken had no part in them, and b) It was probably the EQ guys |
23:02.28 | arkanes | I would be surprised if they don't have a UI where they can just plug stats in and get damage out |
23:02.51 | arkanes | Gagorian: the 20% buff to devestate was intended to apply to both the weapon damage and the bonus damage from AP, apparently its only the first |
23:03.16 | Gagorian | As far as I understood it was inteded to be weapon damage portion only at first, at least according to the patch notes |
23:03.26 | Gagorian | They just decided to hotfix it to apply to the bonus part too |
23:03.27 | Thrae | arkanes: Mistakes are made even with those tools |
23:03.34 | arkanes | Gagorian: thats what the patch note said but was not the designer intent |
23:03.41 | Gagorian | ah |
23:03.42 | arkanes | Gagorian: the fact that it went in that way was a bug |
23:03.49 | Gagorian | Retarded mistake then |
23:03.52 | arkanes | yeah |
23:04.00 | Gagorian | I've had to fix it twice now |
23:04.09 | arkanes | Thrae: right, but consistency is not what the class designer cares about there |
23:04.13 | Gagorian | But not nearly as bad as Conflagrate |
23:04.17 | Gagorian | it f'n changes every patch |
23:04.25 | arkanes | he plugs the number in, sees a 10k shadow bolt, and doesn't care about what specific interactions give that number |
23:04.26 | Thrae | Well, you have to remember that the designers, publishers, programmers, and QA all fight with each other like some battlin' business units. |
23:04.55 | arkanes | the outsider who reverse engineers all the interacting talents & buffs is who sees the subtle inconsistencies |
23:05.18 | Thrae | The designers want to add one thing that the publishers don't want, the programmers say can't be done, and the QA says will cause bugs. Now to the same sentence, add in programmers/publishers/QA to that sentence (well, not QA, no one listens to them) |
23:05.30 | Gagorian | There shouldn't be a reason why the same talent is bugged on a few abilities but not others :) |
23:05.46 | Gagorian | like Art of War is bugged on Judgement of Wisdom/Justice/Light, but works on the rest |
23:05.55 | arkanes | that doesnt surprise me at all |
23:06.19 | arkanes | I suspect that each skill is written seperately and that they each need to include the talents that affect them |
23:06.39 | Gagorian | The issue is that Art of War double stacks on those abilities I listed |
23:07.05 | durcyn | aren't judgements still technically two attacks? |
23:07.07 | ArrowmasterClass | arkanes: you mean like Shadow Embrace not effecting Curse of Doom for how many years? |
23:07.14 | Primer | affecting |
23:07.24 | Thrae | The design of how skills work is more open in Warcraft III, and I think WoW used a lot of WC3's code (and not just the graphics engine), so you can look to WC3 |
23:07.49 | Gagorian | ArrowmasterClass: Probably still doesn't, at least before 3.3.2 |
23:08.46 | ArrowmasterClass | that stupid bug made CoA more dps than CoD for me at the beginning of 2.0 |
23:09.20 | Gagorian | CoD didn't even get Shadow Mastery for a long time |
23:09.41 | Gagorian | Now that was stupid |
23:09.49 | ArrowmasterClass | er yeah Shadow Mastery is what i ment |
23:10.04 | Gagorian | oh yeah, it applies now :) |
23:10.10 | Gagorian | Shadow Embrace still doesn't |
23:10.26 | ArrowmasterClass | i dont remember what shadow embrace does anymore |
23:10.36 | Gagorian | The stacking debuff that increases dot dmg |
23:10.55 | arkanes | SOD is probably not a dot |
23:11.02 | arkanes | COD, event |
23:11.05 | Gagorian | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32394 |
23:13.40 | Gagorian | Well yeah, it's technically not periodic damage but it has still most properties of a dot |
23:13.50 | Gagorian | No crits, no haste by default etc etc |
23:13.53 | Ingela^ | speaking fo bugs pw:s glyph has been bugged since ulduar |
23:14.06 | Ingela^ | and they have changed it back and forth numerous times :P |
23:14.12 | Gagorian | PW:S Glyph is totally crack |
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23:14.37 | Gagorian | Talents apply to it completely differently than to PW:S itself, even if you'd think it'd be a simple percentage.. |
23:14.55 | Ingela^ | yeah they really fucked it up |
23:22.27 | harl | likes the name of the add-on HandyNotes_Charon. |
23:28.19 | sylvanaar | Torhal: those things taint like mofos |
23:29.57 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Indeed :) |
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23:39.28 | koaschten | haha, we just downed sindragosa with a hilarious tactic |
23:39.45 | koaschten | circle strafing |
23:39.52 | koaschten | static fights is for teh noobs :X |
23:40.05 | arkanes | how does circle strafing help? |
23:40.23 | koaschten | it helps with baddies not knowing where to drop frost tombs in the last phase ;) |
23:40.32 | koaschten | just tell em to move in a circle 12y to the left |
23:40.40 | arkanes | huh |
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23:42.26 | koaschten | tank boss, drop frost bomb, rotate boss 45°, have next bomb move out into the direction you turned sindragosa |
23:42.37 | koaschten | it sounds stupid but is so fuckin fail safe its awesome |
23:42.37 | Shadowed | Agh, why does auto join keep breaking for wowace |
23:42.55 | koaschten | definition of breaking? |
23:43.02 | koaschten | you just dropped and rejoined in under a minute |
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23:45.39 | arkanes | koaschten: you have few melee? |
23:45.51 | koaschten | 7 i think |
23:46.29 | arkanes | if you've got people to fail to find the right spot for the tomb, how are they not getting tailed when you turn the boss :\ |
23:47.04 | koaschten | they are killing the tomb when the boss is turned :D |
23:47.24 | koaschten | its the definition of failsafe |
23:47.46 | koaschten | and we did that with a minute left on the timer |
23:50.42 | Shadowed | koaschten: doesn't auto join |
23:50.50 | Shadowed | happens on another computer on a fresh start too |
23:50.59 | Shadowed | I assume it has the registered only flag on or something |
23:51.01 | koaschten | probably because you need to be authed before you can join? |
23:51.28 | koaschten | just write a script snippet to auth and then join? ;) |
23:51.43 | koaschten | or use something like a premade script setting like nnscript for mIRC or something |
23:53.42 | Shadowed | but that takes work, complaining doesn't :( |
23:59.11 | arkanes | irssi supports auth |
23:59.17 | arkanes | I'm sure other clients do too |
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