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| 03:15.05 | Repo | 10honorcapitall: 03Shefki 04v0.4 * 2cfb745 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.4 |
| 03:17.05 | Primer | @describe honorcapitall |
| 03:17.06 | Repo | Primer: http://www.wowace.com/addons/honorcapitall/. HonorCapItAll. Displays how much total honor you have from all sources. |
| 03:17.24 | Primer | all sources meaning all your characters? |
| 03:17.34 | Shefki | Current character only right now. |
| 03:18.19 | Primer | How does it differ from other addons that do the same thing? (i.e. tell you how much honor each of your characters has) |
| 03:18.54 | Shefki | It deals with all the tokens and what not. |
| 03:19.07 | Primer | Bankitems does this |
| 03:19.23 | Shefki | No it doesn't. |
| 03:19.30 | Shefki | Go look at the screenshots. |
| 03:19.59 | Primer | pretty sure it does...checking... |
| 03:20.42 | Shefki | BankItems will happily tell you how many tokens you have. |
| 03:20.50 | Shefki | This will tell you how much honor you have if you turned them all in. |
| 03:23.36 | Primer | So it accounts for the quest where you turn in bg tokens, as well as Stone Keeper Shards, and WG marks? |
| 03:23.45 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 03:23.54 | Primer | interesting |
| 03:24.01 | Shefki | It accounts for every way that character to gain honor. |
| 03:24.12 | Shefki | Even quests not turned in that are completed in your quest log. |
| 03:24.46 | Primer | I think I would find that useful |
| 03:25.22 | Shefki | And it's all done in real time. Has an LDB plugin. So you can go run around in AV and see how much honor you've really got saved up. |
| 03:27.04 | Shefki | http://i46.tinypic.com/5n440x.jpg |
| 03:27.11 | Shefki | There's a screenshot with even more quests in it. |
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| 03:37.18 | steev | holy shit |
| 03:37.22 | steev | death's verdict dropped |
| 03:37.27 | steev | and i was on an alt :/ |
| 03:37.59 | WobWork | steev: at least it wasn't something like the Time Lost Drake on the PTR =) |
| 03:38.18 | steev | WobWork: heh, thats the first time its dropped for us tonight |
| 03:38.33 | steev | or rather, tonight was the first night it's ever dropped for us |
| 03:39.03 | steev | i've got whispering fanged skull and greatness so *shrug* |
| 03:41.46 | quiescens | excuses |
| 03:48.19 | steev | woot |
| 03:48.26 | steev | got the stormpike cleaver on my alt |
| 03:56.51 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2831 Datamine.lua: |
| 03:56.53 | Repo | In addon:TooltipScanRecipe(): If results == nil, don't terminate - instead, don't add the empty results and print what we have. |
| 03:56.54 | Repo | Removed extra newlines from the datamine dump. |
| 03:56.56 | Repo | Re-formatted some code. |
| 03:56.57 | Repo | Removed dead code. |
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| 04:46.39 | pompy | what are the chances they fix http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=4539 lol |
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| 05:03.42 | robotusch | I'm just annoyed I died on our kill this reset :( |
| 05:04.01 | robotusch | I'm OT, but I could probably have talked one of the dps into biting me instead of a healer :< |
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| 05:09.26 | steev | grah |
| 05:09.34 | steev | 1% putricide on our last attempt for the week :/ |
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| 05:33.52 | quiescens | its all your fault ): |
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| 06:34.45 | WobWork | anyone having issues saving poses on the armory? |
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| 07:32.45 | nevcairiel | hehe google is dumping IE6 support, way to go! |
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| 07:41.52 | Shadowed | Google's primary website a giant text box! |
| 07:41.58 | CrazyBenny_ | not like it will change anything ;) |
| 07:42.31 | CrazyBenny_ | I believe its more about google docs and mail..must have been nightmare to keep it working in IE6 |
| 07:43.24 | nevcairiel | when google starts doing something, usually the world follows |
| 07:43.30 | nevcairiel | or stops doing, for that matter |
| 07:43.56 | Shadowed | Aren't a fair bit of people on IE6 at this point those who are locked in due to work |
| 07:44.11 | Shadowed | losing mail might motivate some places thought |
| 07:44.23 | CrazyBenny_ | yeah, but do you really think al those companies using IE6 will get new internal software? since thats where most of IE6 users come from |
| 07:44.32 | Shefki | I doubt any place that's using IE6 is officially having people use google apps. |
| 07:44.36 | nevcairiel | so put some pressure on those lazy admins to finally upgrade their work machines |
| 07:44.43 | Shadowed | I doubt it's the admins choice |
| 07:44.57 | Shadowed | most sane ones would curse IE6 |
| 07:45.03 | CrazyBenny_ | yep, the intranet written for IE6 just dont work elsewhere |
| 07:45.08 | Shefki | Right but I don't expect the powers that be to be motivated by peoples personal mail access. |
| 07:45.25 | Shefki | They might even consider it a benefit. |
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| 07:45.57 | Shadowed | IE6 will die when the last XP computer dies |
| 07:46.17 | Shadowed | or all the companies using IE6 for intranet stuff go bankrupt, whichever comes first |
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| 07:46.54 | nevcairiel | Still, google setting a sign there will motivate more people to finally stop doing IE6 support for their pages |
| 07:47.27 | Shadowed | Wasn't Digg and Facebook (?) as well as a few other companies already dropping IE6 |
| 07:47.40 | nevcairiel | who cares about those? |
| 07:47.55 | CrazyBenny_ | yeah, too bad that wont happen here in czech..most of our sites have about 20% of users using IE6, thats too much to loose :( |
| 07:48.14 | Shadowed | just that Google's not started the dropping IE6 support |
| 07:48.18 | Shadowed | they just get the most publicity |
| 07:49.29 | Shadowed | Although arguably, if it's more things like docs and mail that'll be dropped, it won't have as big of an impact as a bigger time-waster like Facebook beyond "ooo google's doing it" :p |
| 07:50.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2832 / (10 files in 2 directories): Add/remove some entries in the SPELL_ITEM table. |
| 07:50.56 | nevcairiel | At first for Google Docs and the Google Sites editor, a bit later for Mail and Calendar, wouldnt surprise me if by the end of the year youtube and all their other pages stop doing it as well |
| 07:51.05 | Repo | Add an entry to the DO_NOT_SCAN table. |
| 07:51.06 | Repo | Fix skill levels for various recipes throughout the database. |
| 07:51.21 | Shadowed | does Youtube even use Javascript for the core part? |
| 07:51.31 | Shadowed | (barely use it) |
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| 07:51.46 | nevcairiel | its not only about JS, but i guess most of it is |
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| 09:09.07 | Fisker | ~seen kd3 |
| 09:09.09 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (3h 59m 55s) #wowuidev (3h 59m 55s) #wowace (3h 59m 55s) #wowwiki (3h 59m 55s), last said: 'I'm reminded of that simpsons episode where homer buys everything that plugs into a car cigarette lighter'. |
| 09:09.35 | Repo | 10querier: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.82-10-g56a10d8 Querier.lua: [+1 commit] add some more item id's |
| 09:09.46 | Caleb| | ~wowalert |
| 09:09.47 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 09:12.58 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r209 / (5 files in 1 directory): *3.02.32 (02-FEB-2010) BETA 20-55* |
| 09:13.01 | Repo | * fixed - issue with categories |
| 09:17.43 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.32 Beta 20-55 * r210 : *3.02.32 (02-FEB-2010) BETA 20-55* |
| 09:17.45 | Repo | * fixed - issue with categories |
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| 09:25.23 | Adamon | cools. |
| 09:26.11 | Killmore | Patch 3.3.2 is bringing about a change to the way healing functions in Arenas, Battlegrounds, and Wintergrasp. We have applied a debuff to all players in these zones which will decrease the effectiveness of all forms of healing by 10%. |
| 09:26.51 | Adamon | :O |
| 09:27.04 | Adamon | Wonder why they be doin that. |
| 09:27.32 | Kalroth | Too much healing? |
| 09:29.47 | Superfly_ | alliance buff, as alliance might have healers, but one thing is sure, that healer will just casting holy fire in the middle of wsg |
| 09:31.04 | Adamon | :x |
| 09:31.13 | Adamon | I like to do AB as a priest healer. :P |
| 09:31.21 | Adamon | Lumber Mill here I come! |
| 09:31.51 | Superfly_ | my point wasnt about the class :) |
| 09:32.36 | Superfly_ | but this thing really happened to me, the only holy priest in the raid was fighting in the middle of wsg, and I had more healing done(I'm a warlock) |
| 09:34.09 | Adamon | haha |
| 09:34.28 | Adamon | All priests should just stand around AB and MC people off. |
| 09:34.31 | Adamon | Its fun. |
| 09:36.04 | Killmore | :P |
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| 09:39.22 | Lysithea | Killmore got a link to that? |
| 09:40.02 | Zyn | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/11/12304524300-0202-pvp-healing-change.html |
| 09:40.30 | Lysithea | 404 Not Found |
| 09:40.32 | Lysithea | O |
| 09:40.33 | Lysithea | o |
| 09:40.52 | Lysithea | I checked bluetracker and couldnt find it |
| 09:40.57 | Lysithea | and that one is 404d |
| 09:41.00 | Lysithea | so.. :/ |
| 09:41.04 | Bibi | slow DNS |
| 09:41.05 | Bibi | :p |
| 09:41.37 | nevcairiel | what does dns have to do with that? o.O |
| 09:41.51 | Bibi | moved the tracker to new servers last week |
| 09:42.04 | nevcairiel | i have posts from yesterday |
| 09:42.05 | Bibi | started crashing yesterday and we couldn't bring it back up |
| 09:42.09 | nevcairiel | but not that from |
| 09:42.13 | Bibi | so I asked the techs to revert it back to the old servers |
| 09:42.28 | Lysithea | Latest on bluetracker I got is Death Knights in Cataclysm? Zarhym 2010-02-01 23:49:24 General Evangelion |
| 09:42.29 | Bibi | so the last post you have is probably right before that |
| 09:42.31 | Bibi | when Nethaera went emo |
| 09:43.53 | Fisker | that's how you (t)roll |
| 09:45.48 | Fisker | in other news teh new Nvidia cards have been named :o |
| 09:48.13 | Shefki | Number_Of_Last_nVidia_Cards+1000 |
| 09:48.35 | Shefki | Those video card guys are really creative. |
| 09:48.54 | nevcairiel | they didnt go with 300 ? :P |
| 09:48.58 | Fisker | +200 Shefki |
| 09:48.58 | Fisker | l2p |
| 09:49.13 | Shefki | Ohh sorry replace nVidia with ATI. |
| 09:49.16 | Shefki | I loaded the wrong module. |
| 09:50.03 | Fisker | i keel you Shefki |
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| 10:00.56 | Shefki | Fisker: No you won't. |
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| 10:09.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7133 Northrend/Toravon.lua: Northrend/Toravon: Add another orb spell id. |
| 10:10.58 | Fisker | haha |
| 10:11.03 | Fisker | 10man flame leviathan is kinda stupid |
| 10:11.21 | Fisker | we used one bar of energy on the demolisher before he was dead |
| 10:11.42 | Shefki | s/flame leviathan/WoW/ and you're right. |
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| 10:14.28 | haste | Fisker: it's due to gear scaling |
| 10:14.37 | haste | FL scales like mad |
| 10:15.40 | Repo | 10honorcapitall: 03Shefki 07master * v0.4-1-gfcae2a1 HonorCapItAll.lua: [+1 commit] Some slight text tweaks. |
| 10:17.31 | Fisker | old |
| 10:17.47 | Fisker | but people can't do xt apparently |
| 10:17.54 | Fisker | ZOMG I NEED TO FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRST ON DEEEPS |
| 10:17.59 | Fisker | hardmode activated |
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| 10:30.33 | nevcairiel | man wtf, its snowing like mad again |
| 10:30.37 | nevcairiel | cant this stop |
| 10:30.41 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r168 / (8 files in 2 directories): Multiple favorites lists. |
| 10:34.33 | Megalon | snow is not the problem at most places |
| 10:34.54 | Megalon | it's the idiots who can't drive under non-perfect conditions |
| 10:38.04 | asmodai | That, or in my local case the melting and then freezing again |
| 10:38.09 | asmodai | Making some lovely ice. |
| 10:42.15 | Zarnivoop | anyone tried raidbuilder.com? |
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| 10:50.52 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r211 / (3 files in 1 directory): *3.02.33 (02-FEB-2010) BETA 21-42* |
| 10:50.54 | Repo | * added - fix corrupted categories caused by earlier betas |
| 10:52.50 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.33 Beta 21-42 * r212 : *3.02.33 (02-FEB-2010) BETA 21-42* |
| 10:52.53 | Repo | * added - fix corrupted categories caused by earlier betas |
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| 10:55.44 | koaschten | stop whining nevcairiel |
| 10:55.59 | koaschten | i just digged out my car because i hadn't used it since thursday last week |
| 10:56.15 | nevcairiel | I used mine on the weekend, was enough digging out |
| 10:56.17 | koaschten | and then i drove to the grocery store and it took almost 20 minutesfor 2 km |
| 10:57.00 | nevcairiel | if it continues to snow like that i'll run out of places to store that stuff |
| 10:57.03 | koaschten | not even talking about the 10cm snow on the "bundesstrasse" which my front spoiler happily played snow plow with.... |
| 10:57.08 | evl | driving kills whales |
| 10:57.11 | nevcairiel | and i dont feel like shovling it all the way into the garden |
| 10:57.15 | koaschten | i kill evil |
| 10:57.26 | koaschten | see what i did there? |
| 10:57.55 | nevcairiel | it snowed like 15cm since this morning, i bet our streets are equally fun |
| 10:58.28 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r169 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fixed bug with default settings. |
| 10:58.55 | Repo | Tweaked saved item settings menu. |
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| 10:59.33 | nevcairiel | This is the longest freaking winter since ever, what i can remember anyway |
| 10:59.45 | Grum | its finally a proper winter |
| 11:00.05 | Grum | its a season for crying out loud, we have 4 of those a year, so technically each one could/should last 3 months |
| 11:00.27 | nevcairiel | one more month of snow and we're close to that 3 month of snow |
| 11:00.58 | nevcairiel | we're at 6 or 7 weeks of snow already, driving me nuts |
| 11:01.08 | Grum | yeah its fucking annoying |
| 11:01.58 | nevcairiel | thats going to be fun when we suddenly switch from -5 to like +10 and everything starts melting fast |
| 11:02.29 | Grum | we're having ~1-3deg atm |
| 11:02.34 | Grum | and its raining |
| 11:02.36 | nevcairiel | ~weather eddh |
| 11:02.47 | Megalon | yea this winter at least comes close to |
| 11:02.47 | Grum | ~weather eham |
| 11:02.50 | Megalon | what a winter should be |
| 11:03.02 | nevcairiel | temp 0 c, weather snow .. :P |
| 11:03.10 | Grum | we have light rain |
| 11:03.11 | Fisker | i did well nevcairiel |
| 11:03.16 | Megalon | not as awesome as the one in 2001(?) |
| 11:03.18 | Grum | but its not warm enough to melt the snow/ice |
| 11:03.19 | Megalon | when on christmas |
| 11:03.23 | Megalon | it snowed 80cm |
| 11:03.30 | Megalon | was awesome |
| 11:03.31 | Grum | instead it turns it into sludge on *VERY* slick ice |
| 11:03.36 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.43 | Megalon | blackice |
| 11:03.45 | nevcairiel | we had one of those days last week |
| 11:03.49 | nevcairiel | it didnt actually rain |
| 11:03.58 | nevcairiel | but it was like +3 so that the top layer began to melt |
| 11:04.00 | nevcairiel | next day -5 again |
| 11:04.02 | nevcairiel | yay ice |
| 11:04.18 | Grum | yeah same over the weekend |
| 11:04.41 | Grum | this morning i saw someone brake on the bike and sliding to a half roughly 50 mtrs further |
| 11:04.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:04.47 | Grum | and he turned rather white :D |
| 11:04.56 | Grum | *halt |
| 11:05.21 | Grum | he kinda missed his turn, i'm kinda glad for him he didnt turn his wheel yet =) |
| 11:05.48 | nevcairiel | going to fast for this weather then! |
| 11:05.57 | Grum | not really :D |
| 11:06.06 | Grum | that part was just kinda ... slippery :D |
| 11:06.24 | Grum | and you could barely see it :( |
| 11:06.30 | Grum | one thing is fun though |
| 11:06.40 | Grum | you can see clearly where the pipes with hot water are burried :D |
| 11:06.52 | nevcairiel | you have hot water pipes? |
| 11:06.53 | Grum | above those spots the ice is already gone in a *really* straight line :D |
| 11:06.55 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:07.08 | Grum | city-central-heating (dunno the proper english name for it) |
| 11:07.27 | Grum | but the hot water is provided citywide from the cooling part of a powerplant somewhere |
| 11:07.28 | nevcairiel | ah, they have that in some parts of the city as well |
| 11:07.53 | Fisker | i r did well nevcairiel :( |
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| 11:08.21 | Grum | quite a nice system, until it breaks ;D |
| 11:08.42 | sb|work | morning! |
| 11:09.11 | sb|work | more fucking snow announced... yay :/ |
| 11:10.16 | Grum | you know, the real problem is, that i have to go outside in the snow |
| 11:10.23 | Grum | i wouldn't care if i could just stay home =) |
| 11:10.43 | sb|work | yup :p |
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| 11:12.27 | Grum | wtb teleporter :( |
| 11:13.29 | nevcairiel | meh, law requires me to clear the f'ing way to the house, or if someone falls they can sue me |
| 11:13.40 | nevcairiel | so i have to go out and shovle the shit out of the way |
| 11:14.48 | koaschten | the problem is not the shoveling |
| 11:15.01 | koaschten | the problem is having to do it in a timely fashioned manner |
| 11:15.08 | koaschten | like until 7:30 on a weekday ;) |
| 11:16.32 | Grum | nevcairiel: you could alternatively put up a sign stating they can just fuck off and its their own risk =) |
| 11:18.50 | sb|work | no Grum :o |
| 11:18.58 | KriLL3 | good time to invest in a flamethrower |
| 11:19.31 | nevcairiel | i dont think that works |
| 11:19.33 | Grum | or a slave |
| 11:19.33 | sb|work | http://www.juraforum.de/urteile/urteil/olg-karlsruhe-urteil-vom-22-09-2004-az-7-u-9403.html |
| 11:19.41 | sb|work | doesnt work here :p |
| 11:19.58 | KriLL3 | it's written in gibberish sb|work |
| 11:20.13 | koaschten | nevcairiel http://www.plus.de/Guede-Schneefraese-GESF-1800/de_vpd-50197000-h1UKAYCLswkAAAEluzdiwp01-YkQKAYCL3wgAAAEmvchR.VYe-ct.html;sid=OvIBnXiaz8sFnTPyMKPynnmQsaCe_c7TwclbE5C0 |
| 11:20.31 | sb|work | pfff too small koaschten |
| 11:20.42 | koaschten | no, sold out in 4 hours ;) |
| 11:20.55 | nevcairiel | they know what to sell during this time, gotta give them that |
| 11:21.03 | Megalon | koaschten: i'd go with http://www.landwirt.com/gebrauchte,603143,Mercedes-Unimog-411-mit-Schneefraese.html |
| 11:21.15 | nevcairiel | although that wouldnt solve my issues with where to store the snow |
| 11:21.30 | sb|work | well 99 eur is nice, thats right |
| 11:21.46 | sb|work | hmmmm, is it possible to return it within 2 weeks? :p |
| 11:21.55 | koaschten | its an online shop |
| 11:21.58 | sb|work | yea, online ordering, that should work :p |
| 11:21.59 | koaschten | so default 14 days |
| 11:22.03 | sb|work | yes |
| 11:22.20 | koaschten | only bad thing is, it looks electric |
| 11:22.36 | sb|work | well "# Anschluss: 230 Volt" |
| 11:23.24 | Megalon | or just find a nearby overhead power line |
| 11:23.31 | Megalon | should clear the snow in a 20m radius |
| 11:23.34 | nevcairiel | the cheap ones all are electric |
| 11:23.36 | Megalon | from where it touches the ground |
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| 11:24.05 | nevcairiel | wonder how my lawn mower would behave if i just let it eat throught the now :P |
| 11:24.51 | nevcairiel | also, i cant type anymore today |
| 11:24.58 | sb|work | if you try, put it on youtube please :p |
| 11:25.14 | nevcairiel | somehow i'm sure there are alot of those already up |
| 11:26.21 | KriLL3 | anyone seen videos online with the dialog, story and vistas of the raids? all videos I find are set to horrible music and just shows the actual fight parts |
| 11:26.41 | KriLL3 | which is basically the least of what I'd like to watch |
| 11:28.04 | nevcairiel | those are pretty rare, since guilds don't usually want to announce their tactics to the world |
| 11:28.11 | nevcairiel | they just want to show-off their kill |
| 11:28.38 | KriLL3 | I'm not interested in the tactics per say |
| 11:28.39 | nevcairiel | oh wait, you dont want boss fight stuff, you want lore? |
| 11:28.41 | KriLL3 | just the lore |
| 11:28.44 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 11:28.51 | nevcairiel | get a official blizzard movie :P |
| 11:28.59 | KriLL3 | they're just teasers |
| 11:30.11 | Stanzilla | jack's videos have lore |
| 11:30.16 | Stanzilla | ulduar and naxx for example |
| 11:49.45 | Hjalte | I've got a white spot (100x30px or so) on my desktop that stays when I switch background image. It won't allow me to move icons over it. Any suggestions on how to find out what it is? |
| 11:49.56 | Fisker | The Banelings cannot detonate while burrowed, they have to unburrow first and then explode. I know what youâre thinking. âHey, probably exploding while burrowed would be a better warfare tacticâ. |
| 11:50.01 | Fisker | You must understand that exploding in the name of the Zerg is indeed a great satisfaction for a Baneling, thus they prefer to unburrow in order to showcase their enthusiasm for their role by exploding with a smirk on their face. If you zoom close enough you will see a little smile on their little glowing face of theirs. Ah, gotta love the Banelings. |
| 11:50.12 | Fisker | What about "Exploding underground mitigates the explosion, duh"? |
| 11:52.16 | KriLL3 | Hjalte: might it be a dead pixel? |
| 11:52.37 | Hjalte | KriLL3: No, I can move windows over it :) |
| 11:52.46 | KriLL3 | hmm, not sure |
| 11:52.53 | KriLL3 | could try killing tasks one by one |
| 11:54.30 | Fisker | probably a hanged task |
| 11:54.31 | Fisker | yarr |
| 11:54.37 | Fisker | i recall hearing of a similar problem |
| 11:55.32 | Hjalte | It was a program called DoubleTwist, which is a sync program for Android. At least closing the device task for said program fixed it. |
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| 12:18.28 | asmodai | Weirdos. |
| 12:24.22 | Hjalte | does weird things to asmodai |
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| 12:29.58 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r258 WotLK/IcecrownCitadel.lua: --Update : The Frostwing Halls |
| 12:30.16 | quiescens | so, the pvp healing is going to shift things in favor of absorb mechanics a bit probably? |
| 12:34.17 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r259 WotLK/IcecrownCitadel.lua: -Fix a bug |
| 12:37.31 | quiescens | gasp |
| 12:37.32 | quiescens | a bug |
| 12:50.59 | asmodai | Squash it! |
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| 12:56.45 | arkanes | quiescens: probably by about 10% |
| 12:58.14 | asmodai | nevcairiel: from the nvidia twitter: Fun Fact of the Week: GeForce GTX 480 and GeForce GTX 470 will be the names of the first two GPUs shipped based on our new GF100 chip! |
| 12:58.47 | Hjalte | What happened to GTX 3xx? |
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| 13:01.40 | Fisker | old asmodai |
| 13:01.53 | Fisker | and they already got 3xx cards |
| 13:02.12 | Fisker | omg |
| 13:02.55 | nevcairiel | they have one for mobile, afaik |
| 13:03.02 | nevcairiel | which is just a rebranded 2xx |
| 13:03.07 | nevcairiel | they like doing that :P |
| 13:03.21 | Fisker | exactly |
| 13:03.40 | nevcairiel | like some 9800 cards were just rebranded 8800 |
| 13:04.56 | Fisker | i hope it gets out soon |
| 13:05.21 | nevcairiel | i doubt before april or so |
| 13:08.02 | Fisker | i hope for early march :o |
| 13:11.21 | olafski | bolvar's face looks weird |
| 13:12.16 | Megalon | your face would also look weird after alexstrasze breathed into it |
| 13:12.26 | Megalon | alexstrasza :7 |
| 13:12.33 | Fisker | i would think it would be non-existing |
| 13:13.28 | Megalon | perhaps putricide reassambled him |
| 13:13.38 | Megalon | he likes kinky experiments |
| 13:14.37 | Fisker | i like you Megalon |
| 13:15.30 | asmodai | slaps Fisker |
| 13:15.33 | olafski | no I mean it looks animated differently than all the other people in the cutscenes I've seen |
| 13:15.37 | asmodai | Fisker: only got posted 11 hours before. |
| 13:15.44 | olafski | almost as if they took real life footage for his face somehow |
| 13:15.48 | Megalon | hm, don't know Fisker |
| 13:15.54 | Megalon | is that flattery or threat |
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| 13:24.05 | mojosdojo | @project grid-status-raid-debuff |
| 13:24.23 | mojosdojo | @describe grid-status-raid-debuff |
| 13:24.27 | Repo | mojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid-status-raid-debuff/. GridStatusRaidDebuff. Game: WoW. azelkeeber (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 50 minutes ago. Tickets: 6/10 |
| 13:24.28 | Repo | mojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid-status-raid-debuff/. GridStatusRaidDebuff. Adds a status to Grid for debuffs applied by Raid Bosses. |
| 13:25.12 | koaschten | om nom nom http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/nec-multisync-pa241w-brings-full-1920-x-1200-ips-glory-to-the-we/ |
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| 13:35.02 | Fisker | what did asmodai ? |
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| 13:39.41 | yoshimo | @describe smartres2 |
| 13:39.42 | Repo | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/. SmartRes2. Co-ordinated targetless Party/Raid wipe recovery. Evolved |
| 13:47.01 | Fisker | d |
| 13:47.05 | Fisker | do not om nom nom koaschten |
| 13:52.10 | Groktar | watches lich king cinematic |
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| 13:53.32 | Kalroth | Co-ordinated targetless Party/Raid wipe recovery. Also known as Raiding-With-Fisker. |
| 13:53.59 | evl | what happened to running in again :( |
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| 13:54.09 | Kalroth | Too lazy! |
| 13:54.16 | evl | our healers are vile |
| 13:55.05 | Groktar | lichifies evl |
| 13:55.19 | evl | watch it before I spoil the ending! |
| 13:55.30 | Groktar | i already watched it |
| 13:55.41 | evl | actually I spoiled it myself the moment I saw it so I won't have to cry out in anguish at the first russian that goes "OMG DID YOU KNOW BLA BLAB" in general |
| 13:56.18 | Groktar | not like it was the least bit surprising |
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| 14:00.29 | asmodai | unleashes Groktar on Fisker |
| 14:02.29 | Groktar | goa'uld asmodai |
| 14:04.23 | asmodai | is one of the underground resistance goa'uld |
| 14:04.39 | Groktar | tortures asmodai |
| 14:04.54 | Megalon | fiskers Groktar |
| 14:05.00 | Groktar | explodes |
| 14:05.19 | Megalon | loots |
| 14:05.25 | Groktar | bits splatter all over Megalon |
| 14:05.38 | Megalon | baths in blood and power |
| 14:06.45 | nevcairiel | underground resistance goa'uld? you know, they have a name, too! |
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| 14:07.39 | Wobin | Tok'ra? |
| 14:08.15 | Fisker | GOULD |
| 14:12.40 | Bruners | asmodai: be kind to fisker or else |
| 14:13.19 | Groktar | kills Bruners |
| 14:13.23 | Megalon | or else don't be kind |
| 14:13.25 | Megalon | doesn't matter |
| 14:13.34 | Groktar | offers Megalon a fresh Brunersteak |
| 14:14.05 | asmodai | Bruners: Wtf would I want to be kind to fisker? |
| 14:14.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Couldn't remember |
| 14:14.20 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqdZFuGt1I4&NR=1 <-- owned |
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| 14:15.29 | Wobin | asmodai, awesome |
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| 14:16.41 | asmodai | Wobin: Yeah, nice touch. :) |
| 14:19.05 | Fisker | btw old asmodai |
| 14:19.13 | olafski | nice |
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| 14:19.35 | Kalroth | older than Fisker |
| 14:20.05 | Fisker | you wound me Kalroth |
| 14:20.12 | Fisker | with a bicycle |
| 14:21.35 | haste | throws salt at Fisker. |
| 14:21.42 | Fisker | i'm not your buddy, friend |
| 14:21.49 | haste | :( |
| 14:22.20 | Fisker | i wish they would put the new seasons up online already |
| 14:23.15 | haste | puts Fisker online. |
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| 14:29.39 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:29.43 | haste | Fisker |
| 14:30.18 | Fisker | I am emotionally aggrevating you into a response |
| 14:30.43 | Fisker | oh teh nos? |
| 14:37.07 | steev | fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 14:37.43 | steev | haste: can tags go on the oUF runebar? |
| 14:37.52 | Fisker | r u so srs? |
| 14:38.39 | haste | steev: oUF doesn't really care much about where you place the fontstrings |
| 14:39.28 | evl | Has anyone measured how the default UI performs? I guess even if you run custom bars/unit frames you can't kill them off completely... |
| 14:39.54 | haste | you can kill their CPU usage quite well |
| 14:40.16 | evl | but have you measured the default up against say oUF |
| 14:41.21 | haste | nope, I see no reason to do so |
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| 14:56.38 | Bruners | haste: has anyone compared any of the other unitframe addons to oUF? |
| 14:56.49 | haste | why would I know :p ? |
| 14:56.58 | Bruners | you know everything |
| 14:57.03 | haste | no I don't :V |
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| 15:08.36 | Megalon | compares Fisker to common sense |
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| 15:10.52 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: ping |
| 15:10.59 | nevcairiel | pong |
| 15:12.20 | Gagorian | Is it intended that the manual input of type = 'range' boxes accept values outside the range? |
| 15:13.01 | nevcairiel | I guess |
| 15:13.44 | nevcairiel | not sure =P |
| 15:14.06 | Gagorian | Since, it's a bit strange to have a 0-100 range but you can still input whatever you want |
| 15:14.24 | Gagorian | So, I'd need to min,max them in the setter function |
| 15:15.17 | wink | it's always about min/maxing, isn't it? :( |
| 15:15.30 | Gagorian | Indeed! |
| 15:15.32 | nevcairiel | write a ticket and i might check it later |
| 15:16.05 | Gagorian | A ticket you say! |
| 15:16.32 | wink | a ticket to speed up a bugfix - is that a speeding ticket? |
| 15:16.47 | nevcairiel | i would just forget until i have time |
| 15:18.37 | ckknight | Gagorian: it really should not |
| 15:20.08 | Gagorian | Myes, very easy to fix too |
| 15:22.04 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:22.08 | ckknight | no, Fisker |
| 15:22.08 | ckknight | no |
| 15:22.35 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:23.23 | Megalon | stop the trout cruelty |
| 15:23.40 | Fisker | i want sc2 beta ckknight |
| 15:23.46 | ckknight | as do I |
| 15:23.49 | ckknight | give it to me! |
| 15:23.52 | ckknight | give it... |
| 15:24.21 | Megalon | betalicous |
| 15:24.38 | steev | sc2 beta is a lie |
| 15:25.04 | Fisker | no steev |
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| 15:25.23 | nevcairiel | you couldnt even play it on your puny mac ckknight! |
| 15:25.33 | ckknight | I know, pisses me off |
| 15:25.38 | ckknight | have to goddamn reboot |
| 15:25.42 | Fisker | l2pc |
| 15:25.53 | ckknight | I already l2urmom'd |
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| 15:26.40 | steev | pwnt |
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| 15:27.26 | Xtek | that's not hard to learn |
| 15:27.55 | Megalon | urmoms |
| 15:28.20 | steev | ckknight is balls deep in love with Fisker's mom |
| 15:29.24 | Megalon | in before joke involving a teabag |
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| 15:32.00 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1273 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:32.03 | Repo | - Force of Nature receives no bonus from haste rating, bonus is possibly applied by Celestial Focus, but the combatlog timestamps aren't accurate enough to know for sure. |
| 15:32.04 | Repo | - Around 6.5% crit seems likelier than 5% based on 2036 treant hits. It's not a high number, but I have better things to do than sit around waiting for the cooldown. If anyone knows better, let me know. |
| 15:32.21 | Fisker | i'm a force of nature |
| 15:34.03 | quiescens | the solution is to collect 40 balance druids in order to test all of it at the same time |
| 15:34.36 | Megalon | I did quite some testing on FoN |
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| 15:35.45 | Megalon | for the sc druid module, talents with so long cooldown suck quite a bit to test all this :x |
| 15:36.46 | wink | sc? |
| 15:36.59 | Megalon | simulationcraft |
| 15:37.40 | Gagorian | Megalon: Yeah I spammed the shit out of that for the last two days |
| 15:37.46 | Gagorian | I had enough right about now |
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| 15:38.32 | Gagorian | Megalon: I looked a bit at the SC and it didn't seem to have all the research done |
| 15:38.51 | Megalon | the problem with treants is |
| 15:39.00 | Megalon | they have different mainhands |
| 15:39.02 | Megalon | one has 2.0 |
| 15:39.04 | Megalon | one 1.8 |
| 15:39.06 | Megalon | one 1.6 |
| 15:39.47 | Megalon | or the petui fails for them |
| 15:39.54 | Gagorian | The PetUI fails massively for them |
| 15:40.09 | Gagorian | But it's possible that they spawn with different attack speeds |
| 15:40.18 | Megalon | at least it's an easy way to get sp>ap conversion |
| 15:40.24 | Gagorian | Since it seemed pretty random |
| 15:40.33 | Gagorian | 0.57 yeah, but you need to take lunar guidance out |
| 15:40.37 | Gagorian | It doesn't give any bonus |
| 15:40.57 | Gagorian | Which is stupid |
| 15:41.12 | Gagorian | Also the base damage is increased by spelldamage in addition to the AP coefficient |
| 15:41.26 | Gagorian | double gains are annoying >_< |
| 15:41.51 | Megalon | http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t26204-moonkin_wotlk_talent_preview_discussion/p54/#post945085 |
| 15:41.54 | Megalon | ah yea |
| 15:41.59 | Gagorian | I don't know where SC pulled the base damage from but it was weird |
| 15:42.23 | Megalon | no where I pulled it from ;D |
| 15:42.26 | Megalon | no clue :x |
| 15:42.52 | Gagorian | Umm remind me what iMA is an abbrevation of |
| 15:42.56 | Gagorian | I don't play druids |
| 15:43.08 | Megalon | improved moonkin aura |
| 15:43.15 | Megalon | 10/20/30% spirit => sp |
| 15:43.54 | Gagorian | ah, forgot to take that into account as I didn't test with moonkin aura then |
| 15:44.04 | Gagorian | Good point |
| 15:44.38 | Megalon | just like lunar guidance |
| 15:44.44 | Megalon | but if you found out the same |
| 15:44.51 | Megalon | it's probably a feature then |
| 15:44.53 | Gagorian | (ah yeah, the talent is called Improved Moonkin Form) |
| 15:44.55 | Gagorian | yeah |
| 15:44.59 | Megalon | form |
| 15:45.05 | Megalon | oh well ;x |
| 15:45.32 | Gagorian | But yeah.. I parsed the combatlog for 2000 hits for the attack speed |
| 15:45.38 | Gagorian | the average speed is somewhere around 1.8 |
| 15:45.51 | Gagorian | a bit under generally, but not enough to say it's not 1.8 |
| 15:46.12 | Gagorian | Possibly 1.8/1.03 since I had Celestial Focus |
| 15:46.18 | Gagorian | but hard to tell |
| 15:46.49 | Megalon | if you watch closely |
| 15:46.49 | Gagorian | But they do seem to spawn with different attack speeds since sometimes the average over the test changes a lot |
| 15:46.56 | Megalon | you can see that first they are synched |
| 15:47.07 | Megalon | but manage to get out of synch during their spawntime |
| 15:47.38 | Gagorian | yeah.. that explains the PetUI numbers partly, but the petUI numbers were f'd up beyond that too |
| 15:47.39 | Megalon | pretty weird |
| 15:47.46 | Gagorian | It was all over the place 1.6-1.9 |
| 15:48.59 | Gagorian | Well around 1.8 in any case for practical matters |
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| 15:49.41 | Megalon | btw, did you test if they get ap/14 onto their attack? |
| 15:49.55 | Gagorian | spd * ap / 14 |
| 15:50.24 | Megalon | hm yea that ;x |
| 15:50.31 | Gagorian | 454-669 and 0.023 * SP added to both |
| 15:50.38 | Megalon | k |
| 15:50.44 | Gagorian | But that was just a rough guess |
| 15:50.44 | Megalon | because when testing DK ghoul |
| 15:50.59 | Megalon | i noticed it has an additional 0.84 factor |
| 15:51.12 | Megalon | it gains AP/14*0.84 mainhand dps |
| 15:51.15 | Megalon | no clue why |
| 15:51.22 | Gagorian | what's the attack speed? |
| 15:51.40 | Megalon | 2.0 |
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| 15:54.18 | Megalon | but that was rather easy to test |
| 15:54.20 | Megalon | with unholy dk |
| 15:54.40 | Gagorian | I see |
| 15:54.55 | Gagorian | SC had the expertise rating gain correct |
| 15:55.09 | Gagorian | Hit was strangely implemented so I'm not sure it's correct |
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| 15:57.22 | Megalon | 1439ap, 136.8 dps |
| 15:57.32 | Megalon | 1990ap, 169.9 dps |
| 15:57.46 | Megalon | ~16.6ap per dps gained on the ghouls mainhand |
| 15:57.56 | Megalon | naked dk, just with and w/o horn of winter |
| 15:59.28 | Gagorian | I'm going to need those later if I decide to implement it... |
| 15:59.44 | Gagorian | I should, but adding (testing actually) Force of Nature was painful enough |
| 16:00.02 | Gagorian | I wrote a script to parse the combat log and spammed it while watching series/movies |
| 16:01.39 | Megalon | hehe, yea, FoN is a pain in the ass |
| 16:02.26 | Megalon | DK ghoul at least gets permanent with talents, with an functional petUI on top :x |
| 16:04.30 | Gagorian | I think I got everything else rather nicely implemented |
| 16:04.36 | Gagorian | except the base crit chance |
| 16:04.44 | Gagorian | It's not based on the int of the treant at least |
| 16:04.59 | Gagorian | Perhaps agi, but that doesn't change |
| 16:05.05 | Gagorian | (at least without buffs) |
| 16:05.25 | Gagorian | But whatever the conversion of agi to crit is... *shrugs* |
| 16:09.50 | Fisker | slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:09.54 | Fisker | i could just slap you |
| 16:12.19 | Megalon | you could |
| 16:12.23 | Megalon | but you wouldn't |
| 16:19.31 | Fisker | but i already did |
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| 16:26.14 | marshen | are there lua changes on minor wow patches? |
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| 16:41.08 | Funkeh` | ello |
| 16:43.19 | Fisker | h |
| 16:47.00 | yoshimo | depends on the patch, is the download already available in us? |
| 16:47.51 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1274 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:47.53 | Repo | - Manually added Moonkin Aura now adds spirit and haste if you're specced into improved moonkin form |
| 16:47.54 | Repo | - Manually added buffs should now correctly check if any other buff is present from the same category |
| 16:47.55 | Repo | - Removed Improved Moonkin Form spelldamage bonus from Force of Nature |
| 16:52.05 | yoshimo | indeed it is available.. , does anyone have a downloadlink for 3.3.2? its slow here.. |
| 16:57.31 | yoshimo | ah official torrent 8 seeds by blizzard, 1 downloader, nice , 4m and done |
| 16:58.23 | nevcairiel | where did you get the official downloader already? |
| 16:59.00 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:59.13 | yoshimo | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/ there are torrents already |
| 16:59.21 | nevcairiel | morning Kaelten |
| 16:59.44 | nevcairiel | do i understand that line in the technical support section of the changelog right? wow can now use more then 2 cores? |
| 17:00.14 | yoshimo | would be nice, i have 4 |
| 17:01.37 | nevcairiel | wonder if it can actually offload some stuff to more cores |
| 17:02.21 | yoshimo | it will be bad as before, i guess |
| 17:03.07 | olafski | it already could use more than 2 cores couldn't it? oO |
| 17:03.22 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 17:03.23 | Megalon | not really |
| 17:03.25 | olafski | by default it would use two, but you could change that number to have it use other cores |
| 17:03.41 | Megalon | it just jumps to other cores |
| 17:03.52 | Megalon | with lower load i'd think |
| 17:04.22 | olafski | hm |
| 17:04.35 | yoshimo | which is useless, when all of them are sitting at 5% load |
| 17:04.42 | olafski | "Previously the game client was limited to 2 cores as a default which players could override in the configuration file. " |
| 17:04.48 | olafski | sounds to me like it could use more cores even before thi |
| 17:04.49 | olafski | s |
| 17:05.10 | yoshimo | patch will be done in 1m , mpqedit is ready to go |
| 17:05.33 | nevcairiel | I guess in theory it can, but all the main power is in the rendering thread, and that cant be split |
| 17:05.50 | olafski | possibly.. but if you change that mask it could use all cores |
| 17:05.59 | olafski | I guess they changed it now so that it will use all cores by default? |
| 17:06.03 | yoshimo | cpu rendering not gpu? |
| 17:06.19 | nevcairiel | not everything is done on the gpu |
| 17:06.36 | Fisker | duh olafski |
| 17:06.42 | Fisker | i've said that for a billion years now |
| 17:06.55 | durcyn | wow's graphics acceleration is shitty anyway |
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| 17:07.35 | nevcairiel | its the typical mmo problem |
| 17:07.39 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.46 | nevcairiel | aloooot of polygons for players |
| 17:08.01 | Fisker | i wonder how their next mmo will be |
| 17:08.22 | Fisker | presumably multicore setups will be a primary design goal this time around |
| 17:08.31 | nevcairiel | would be silly not to |
| 17:09.12 | yoshimo | mpqedit, to extract stuff from the patchfile fisker |
| 17:09.16 | durcyn | because historical use of SMP has been such a blindingly great example for blizzard to follow |
| 17:09.26 | yoshimo | does anyone know what pvpzone4 is? |
| 17:09.39 | Fisker | what stuff durr yoshimo |
| 17:10.06 | yoshimo | soundfiles, bossquotes, spells, maps, whatever |
| 17:10.28 | Fisker | they've put a timer on the kick cooldown |
| 17:10.40 | nevcairiel | until now no game really focusses on that much, but in a year or two you can practically assume that every mid-range gaming pc will have multiple cores |
| 17:10.54 | Fisker | and now you can't kick people to avoid rolling with them and so forth |
| 17:11.45 | Arrowmaster | i think right now you can assume every new gaming computer is going to be multi core so all you have to do is wait for the single cores to become too old to support new games |
| 17:12.10 | nevcairiel | are there even single core cpus left? |
| 17:12.19 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:12.21 | Fisker | laptops!11 |
| 17:12.23 | nevcairiel | short of special stuff like atoms |
| 17:12.36 | nevcairiel | a c2d laptop has multiple cores, too! |
| 17:12.39 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ |
| 17:12.42 | Fisker | only 18% |
| 17:12.59 | Fisker | netbooks then! |
| 17:13.04 | Fisker | the ipad |
| 17:13.05 | Fisker | :D |
| 17:13.24 | Arrowmaster | does intel still sell anything under the p4 brand? |
| 17:13.25 | Fisker | reminds me, even the nextgen arm cpu is multicore |
| 17:13.39 | Fisker | they sell lowend cpus under celeron |
| 17:13.52 | wink | Fisker: that survey is flawed in itself |
| 17:13.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont keep up with amd cpus to know which are multicore and which arent |
| 17:14.05 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: they have some pentiums, but not sure wtf is in them |
| 17:14.14 | wink | if your pc can't run steam games, do you have steam installed? |
| 17:14.24 | nevcairiel | you can play old shit on steam |
| 17:14.35 | Arrowmaster | there are games on steam that you could run on a netbook |
| 17:14.40 | Fisker | i didn't know popcap's library of games required multicore setups either |
| 17:14.57 | wink | I can't imagine someone with a really crappy computer will install steam for old games |
| 17:15.06 | wink | he will justr not play anyting on that machine |
| 17:15.13 | nevcairiel | you can play CS1.6 on pretty crappy system, tbh :D |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker | CS |
| 17:15.18 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:15.38 | nevcairiel | when i first installed Half-Life 1, i had like a 486 |
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| 17:15.51 | nevcairiel | i guess the engine improved a bit like that |
| 17:15.51 | wink | you surely didn't |
| 17:15.54 | Arrowmaster | i had a 166mhz p1 |
| 17:15.56 | wink | it probably was a p2 already |
| 17:16.07 | nevcairiel | i never had a p2, so no luck :P |
| 17:16.14 | wink | AMD K6-2? |
| 17:16.19 | wink | in '98 |
| 17:16.29 | Arrowmaster | i never had a p2 when it was new but there is one sitting on my desk |
| 17:16.29 | wink | I had a p2-350 back then |
| 17:16.37 | wink | and on a p2-266 Q2 was slow already |
| 17:16.44 | nicoli_s | so whos beaten the lich king already? |
| 17:17.00 | nevcairiel | can you even? |
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| 17:17.15 | Fisker | technically yes |
| 17:17.19 | Fisker | well if the servers are up |
| 17:17.34 | Fisker | anyways in regards to old computers with steam |
| 17:17.47 | wink | 3 cpus? in that survey |
| 17:17.48 | wink | how? |
| 17:17.54 | Fisker | also have to remember that 5 years ago when Steam launched people were using shitteh computers |
| 17:17.55 | wink | 1% of users |
| 17:17.55 | nevcairiel | amd x3! |
| 17:17.56 | Fisker | athlon wink |
| 17:18.00 | wink | o_O |
| 17:18.03 | wink | athlon what? |
| 17:18.11 | nevcairiel | they sell you a quad-core that has a production flaw in one core |
| 17:18.16 | wink | oh |
| 17:18.16 | nevcairiel | as three core |
| 17:18.17 | Fisker | so my guess is that the single core users left haven't actually aqquired a single cpu unit recently |
| 17:18.22 | wink | wow, never heard about this :D |
| 17:18.51 | Fisker | amd were like "lol intel you're doing fake quad-cores, we'll make real tri-cores" |
| 17:19.09 | Fisker | then they were like "Oops, we were wrong, wasted our money away, we'll go make fake quad-cores now" |
| 17:19.11 | nevcairiel | the tri-core is just a by-product of the quadcores |
| 17:19.23 | Arrowmaster | kinda like the ps3 |
| 17:19.24 | nevcairiel | and technically, amd had the first real quadcore |
| 17:19.30 | Fisker | exactly |
| 17:19.32 | wink | the primary display res is interesting |
| 17:19.39 | Arrowmaster | 8 cell processors except 1 is ALWAYS disabled at the factory |
| 17:19.43 | wink | 20% each for 1280 and 1680 |
| 17:19.52 | wink | and 13% 1024 still |
| 17:19.56 | wink | poor people |
| 17:20.04 | Fisker | which is why i said AMD went like "omg intel is doing fake quad-cores" |
| 17:20.45 | Fisker | but in the end they ended up adopting the same technique as intel because it's better |
| 17:20.54 | wink | audio devices, rofl |
| 17:20.57 | wink | Lautsprecher (High Definition A (+0.08%) 1.30% |
| 17:21.21 | wink | 1/4 as much as the english one |
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| 17:22.24 | Arrowmaster | steam isnt checking for bluray drives yet? |
| 17:22.34 | nevcairiel | is that relevant for steam? |
| 17:22.38 | wink | hehe |
| 17:22.45 | wink | is your free hdd? |
| 17:22.46 | Arrowmaster | they check for dvd vs cd |
| 17:23.13 | durcyn | how quaint. |
| 17:23.19 | Fisker | no pc games that use BD-ROM yet anyway |
| 17:23.32 | nevcairiel | wink: free hdd might, as space is required to store games =P |
| 17:23.35 | Fisker | could always ask though |
| 17:24.02 | wink | nevcairiel: doesn't say anything though. would be a very hard crossjoin to total hdd |
| 17:24.14 | wink | I mean.. 20 GB free on a 60 is much |
| 17:24.23 | wink | 20 free on a 1 TB is nothing |
| 17:24.33 | nevcairiel | 20 is 20 |
| 17:24.51 | durcyn | having a 60gb drive is a whole other problem |
| 17:25.05 | wink | my laptop has a 60. or 80 |
| 17:25.07 | Arrowmaster | 20GB free on a 1TB means you really shouldnt be writing any more to it |
| 17:25.09 | wink | it runs wow |
| 17:25.48 | durcyn | my steam directory is 467GB |
| 17:25.49 | wink | despite being from 04 |
| 17:25.57 | wink | wtf |
| 17:26.07 | nevcairiel | I would say it "walks" wow, tbh :P |
| 17:26.22 | wink | works for AH, nevcairiel :) |
| 17:26.34 | wink | my whole games dir is only 40gb |
| 17:26.48 | durcyn | i'm at half a terabyte all told |
| 17:26.51 | Arrowmaster | the fact that more people are using 1920x1080 than 1920x1200 in the steam hw survey is distrubing |
| 17:27.02 | nevcairiel | silly 16:9 people |
| 17:27.11 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: how many 2560x1600? |
| 17:27.27 | Arrowmaster | doesnt go higher than 1920x1200 |
| 17:27.36 | durcyn | pff. |
| 17:27.48 | Groktar | i'm so looking forward to sindragosa |
| 17:27.58 | nevcairiel | but so many people left on low resolutions |
| 17:28.03 | wink | it does |
| 17:28.04 | nevcairiel | especially 5:4 res |
| 17:28.12 | Megalon | 1366 x 768 |
| 17:28.13 | wink | durcyn: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ bottom |
| 17:28.16 | Megalon | that one sounds really fun |
| 17:28.58 | durcyn | interesting that win7 x64 has twice the share of x86 |
| 17:29.04 | yoshimo | 1200x800 i think i have, but my poor graphiccard has a hard time with wow already on that resolution |
| 17:29.10 | Groktar | replaces your monitor with a 13" crt |
| 17:30.03 | Arrowmaster | NEC just released a new 24" 1920x1200 lcd with an IPS panel |
| 17:30.16 | nevcairiel | price? ^ |
| 17:30.33 | Arrowmaster | $1079 |
| 17:30.46 | nevcairiel | dell has a 24" IPS for about 500 â¬, i wanted to get it, but i rather save my money for my new place |
| 17:30.50 | yoshimo | groktar, i wont give up my flatscreen, never ever, forget it ;) |
| 17:31.02 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: the 2408wfp? |
| 17:31.07 | nevcairiel | U2410 |
| 17:31.09 | durcyn | .. $1079 for a 24 inch panel? i paid less for my 30 |
| 17:31.11 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 17:31.11 | nevcairiel | 2408 is still PVA |
| 17:31.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah 2408 is crappy |
| 17:31.43 | Arrowmaster | that U2410 is an eIPS i think |
| 17:31.46 | durcyn | and it's an S-IPS, even |
| 17:32.15 | nevcairiel | 30 is too big for me, i would have to move half a meter back to have a good viewing field |
| 17:32.16 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: that must have been a while ago, S-IPS is older tech |
| 17:32.24 | durcyn | about 3 years, yeah |
| 17:32.35 | durcyn | it's still a damn nice screen and didn't cost $1079 |
| 17:32.36 | nevcairiel | 24 is perfect |
| 17:33.14 | Arrowmaster | im hoping NEC releases a new 24" series 90 |
| 17:33.28 | Megalon | my 21" did cost more than that, but it's a few years old too :O |
| 17:34.12 | Megalon | loves his eizo |
| 17:34.36 | Arrowmaster | i want an updated http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=29d41c3a-c07c-4dda-a199-13b8823de971 |
| 17:35.32 | durcyn | ugh. most popular audio device is onboard Realtek. ugh ugh ugh ugh. |
| 17:35.33 | Arrowmaster | i wont touch wide gamut while ive got other devices that arent PCs to connect to it |
| 17:35.53 | nevcairiel | the U2410, while it is wide gamut, has very good sRGB emulation mode |
| 17:36.22 | Arrowmaster | does it have programmable hardware LUTs? |
| 17:36.46 | Arrowmaster | meaning can you use a calibrator to adjust that sRGB emulation mode? |
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| 17:37.09 | wink | durcyn: why ugh? it's perfectly fine |
| 17:37.10 | nevcairiel | not via hardware luts, but you can always produce a color profile for the software |
| 17:37.17 | wink | actually it works better than my old SBLive1024 |
| 17:37.23 | wink | that cost a ton of money |
| 17:37.35 | Arrowmaster | the 2408wfp you couldnt and its sRGB mode was horrible so if you connected a non PC to it via HDMI the color was shit |
| 17:38.04 | nevcairiel | durcyn: unless you need special in/outputs or professional level A/D conversion, the latest realteks are fine, its not the AC97 era anymore :P |
| 17:38.08 | durcyn | wink: it's crap, the microphone amps are terrible |
| 17:38.22 | wink | I only listen and hardly talk :) |
| 17:38.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah those just show as AC97 in the software i think |
| 17:38.41 | Arrowmaster | its not really that |
| 17:38.50 | nevcairiel | not even that |
| 17:38.51 | wink | even the AC97 gave me less driver blues than the soundblasters |
| 17:39.01 | durcyn | i gave up and just started using a sennheiser USB adapater because the line level on the mic input was totally unusable on my onboard realtek |
| 17:39.02 | nevcairiel | its all HDA devices now |
| 17:39.07 | wink | same as realtek 8139 and the gbit whatever chipset |
| 17:39.15 | olafski | were there any stealth nerfs to oculus done this patch? looks like there aren't, but that seems odd.. |
| 17:39.22 | durcyn | their network chipsets are okay |
| 17:39.27 | wink | working as intended, unlike the old 8029 that died after a week :P |
| 17:39.41 | nevcairiel | the gbit chipset is fine |
| 17:39.51 | durcyn | the 8169's actually a decent gigabit interface, as long as it's not attached to a brain dead switch |
| 17:39.55 | nevcairiel | except it died on my last board, but that couldve been the board |
| 17:40.04 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 17:40.08 | Funkeh` | the january survery is out |
| 17:40.10 | Funkeh` | thats awesome |
| 17:40.13 | durcyn | them and marvell yukon2s seem to have autonegotiation issues |
| 17:40.15 | Funkeh` | everything is down, windows 7 is up |
| 17:40.18 | Funkeh` | brilliant |
| 17:40.26 | wink | remembers the jolly days of lan parties in BNC with a whole box of spare 8029s to troubleshoot |
| 17:40.52 | durcyn | oh, god, you lanned with thickwire? |
| 17:40.57 | wink | and physical violence if someone buggedered off with the terminator |
| 17:41.03 | wink | ofc I did |
| 17:41.08 | wink | no one had cat5 in '97 |
| 17:41.23 | nevcairiel | luckily i never went to big lan partys before everyone was like cat5 |
| 17:41.37 | durcyn | i had thinwire ISA adapters by then, you're drunk |
| 17:41.51 | durcyn | or european |
| 17:42.14 | nevcairiel | we only used those old BNC things with some friends, like 5-6 people |
| 17:42.19 | nevcairiel | no-one owned a switch, etc :P |
| 17:42.41 | durcyn | i think i still have an ancient 10mb hub sitting in a closet somewhere |
| 17:42.55 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, the time of hubs, a hackers dream |
| 17:43.02 | nevcairiel | well in bnc too |
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| 17:44.11 | Fisker | i had 5 cats in '97 |
| 17:44.40 | nevcairiel | shoots fiskers cats |
| 17:45.33 | wink | durcyn: european |
| 17:45.44 | durcyn | wink: too bad, being drunk is more fun |
| 17:45.55 | asmodai | nevcairiel: shoot fisker instead |
| 17:46.10 | wink | nevcairiel: think 25 was our biggest :P |
| 17:46.20 | wink | pre-switch era |
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| 17:51.48 | asmodai | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2006076 |
| 17:51.52 | asmodai | well, that explains it |
| 17:54.25 | Arrowmaster | "23.976Hz, but not 24Hz" |
| 17:54.33 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck uses 24Hz? |
| 17:56.02 | nevcairiel | its just mentioned for completness |
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| 18:00.46 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: bluray can (and some do) contain 24p material |
| 18:01.01 | Gnarfoz | (but you'd normally use 48Hz to display that properly o_O) |
| 18:01.53 | nevcairiel | 24p is still 23.976 Hz |
| 18:02.12 | nevcairiel | an actually, blurays are all in 24p |
| 18:02.16 | nevcairiel | NTSC and PAL are dead |
| 18:02.31 | Arrowmaster | usually when somebody says 24-p they mean 23.976-p |
| 18:03.07 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Can't say I'm too sorry to see them die. |
| 18:03.11 | asmodai | SECAM, PAL, NTSC |
| 18:03.34 | nevcairiel | it is actually called 24p, no-one wants to say 23.976p :P |
| 18:03.38 | Arrowmaster | but bluray supports 23.976-p, 24-p, 25-p, 50-i, and 59.94-i all at 1920x1080 |
| 18:04.05 | nevcairiel | I've never seen any bluray that wouldnt be in 23.976 |
| 18:04.25 | Arrowmaster | im just going on what wikipedia lists the supported formats as |
| 18:04.39 | nevcairiel | besides, PAL needs to die |
| 18:04.40 | asmodai | Now to get rid of the inch designator in monitors and all that. |
| 18:05.22 | nevcairiel | because they are lazy they just speed up the 24p material to 25p, so our movies are 4% shorter and the voices have a higher pitch |
| 18:05.25 | nevcairiel | its mighty annoying |
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| 18:06.49 | nevcairiel | but hey, thank god for reclock :) |
| 18:09.01 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/k1gjO.gif <-- how not to do marketing |
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| 18:10.43 | nevcairiel | silly motorola needs to push the 2.0.1 update to germany already |
| 18:12.42 | Fisker | hah asmodai |
| 18:12.45 | Fisker | i wonder that as well |
| 18:12.55 | Fisker | it pisses me off actually |
| 18:13.01 | Fisker | i want 60Hz :( |
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| 18:33.11 | steev | bleh |
| 18:33.15 | steev | stupid load out of date addons |
| 18:33.51 | pompy | steev: the servers are up already? |
| 18:39.34 | steev | yep |
| 18:39.36 | steev | ooh |
| 18:39.44 | steev | "Dungeon Guide" instead of "Party Leader" |
| 18:40.36 | steev | and |
| 18:40.46 | steev | the loot roll thingiemabobber |
| 18:40.50 | steev | seems to follow UI scale |
| 18:40.58 | Kuosi | major improvements! |
| 18:44.21 | KriLL3 | my damn chat frames keep resetting their position :\ |
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| 18:52.13 | pompy | so is that thing about hte cvar in the patch notes claiming that wow uses more than one core?. |
| 18:54.47 | steev | processoraffinity ? |
| 18:54.48 | pompy | The OnUpdate bug is still in 3.3.2 :x |
| 18:54.51 | pompy | yeah |
| 18:55.04 | steev | it does use more than one when you set it |
| 18:56.42 | steev | on my quad core, it was set to 3, and used all 4 cores |
| 18:58.33 | pompy | oh damn |
| 19:00.46 | yoshimo | if someone could tell me if the bql chamber has still problems with the map and playerposition, it would be appreciated |
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| 19:01.56 | Primer | bbq chamber? |
| 19:02.14 | yoshimo | blood queen lanathel |
| 19:02.27 | yoshimo | bbq is also nice ;) |
| 19:02.54 | Primer | never seen her... |
| 19:03.01 | Primer | hoping to, some day |
| 19:03.24 | yoshimo | ive seen her shortly, before i died ;) |
| 19:05.14 | Fisker | what onupdate bug? |
| 19:06.11 | pompy | Fisker: if you minimize during login and maximize after you're logged in, stuff doesn't update till you are maximized |
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| 19:09.14 | Fisker | ah |
| 19:09.17 | Fisker | owld though |
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| 19:24.18 | Primer | I really wish there was a way to effectively profile addons |
| 19:24.27 | Primer | to determine which consume the most CPU cycles |
| 19:29.42 | Gnarfoz | Primer: errr |
| 19:29.57 | Primer | Gnarfoz: enlighten me |
| 19:30.07 | Gnarfoz | !api profiling |
| 19:30.13 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'profiling'. |
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| 19:30.16 | Primer | see? |
| 19:30.17 | Gnarfoz | what the hell |
| 19:30.21 | Gnarfoz | !api cpu |
| 19:30.26 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'cpu': GetEventCPUUsage, GetFunctionCPUUsage, GetFrameCPUUsage, GetScriptCPUUsage, UpdateAddOnCPUUsage, ResetCPUUsage, GetAddOnCPUUsage |
| 19:30.47 | Gnarfoz | that, and the related other functions |
| 19:30.58 | Primer | besdides, I don't want an API for my addon, I want a summary of the addons I'm running |
| 19:31.46 | Gnarfoz | well, there's addons using that ^ api to give you basically a task manager style overview? |
| 19:31.54 | Gnarfoz | @project addon-profiler |
| 19:31.55 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/addon-profiler/. Addon Profiler. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 151 days ago |
| 19:31.57 | Gnarfoz | to name one |
| 19:32.21 | wink | to name one that works |
| 19:32.33 | Primer | wow, that image-on-hover is extremely annoying |
| 19:33.05 | Primer | Gnarfoz: awesome |
| 19:33.07 | Primer | thanks! |
| 19:33.29 | Primer | I will now investigate the claim this one user made telling me my addon is "causing extreme lag in 25 man raids" |
| 19:33.45 | Gnarfoz | enjoy |
| 19:33.46 | mitchnull | primer: it does too |
| 19:33.55 | Gnarfoz | because cpu profiling kills performance on its own |
| 19:33.59 | Primer | considering that it does nothing in its onupdate if it's not being displayed |
| 19:34.24 | Gnarfoz | (yet, I've raided 25-man bosses with it enabled... well, it all depends on so many factors...) |
| 19:34.53 | Primer | mitchnull: hrmm? |
| 19:35.12 | Gnarfoz | I still think I've got too many addons doing CLEU or UNIT_AURA related stuff as the reason for my really bad fps in raids |
| 19:35.21 | mitchnull | it totally killed my performance even when I was just about to enter the raid. I only got the invite, and it kicked in |
| 19:35.22 | mitchnull | true story |
| 19:35.27 | Gnarfoz | because the problem scales proportionally with amount of players |
| 19:35.28 | mitchnull | (what addon is that btw?) |
| 19:35.37 | Primer | Gnarfoz: well, mine does UNIT_AURA |
| 19:35.42 | Primer | which I've noticed is quite spammy |
| 19:35.49 | Gnarfoz | indeed it is |
| 19:36.48 | Primer | I guess every addon should have the ability to disable itself at runtime |
| 19:37.03 | Primer | I'll add that to mine |
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| 19:37.14 | Primer | mitchnull: you asking me which is my addon? If so, it's FlightHUD |
| 19:39.20 | mitchnull | yeah, was asking that (trying to point out that I was just talking gibberish about your performance issues, sorry :) |
| 19:39.31 | Primer | yes, I caught on to that |
| 19:39.37 | Primer | it's ok |
| 19:40.03 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r275 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:40.05 | Repo | Make the swimming detection loop operate only if 'display while swimming' is enabled. |
| 19:40.12 | mitchnull | but if you indeed use UNIT_AURA, maybe you should unregister that when the hud is not shown? |
| 19:40.19 | Primer | that's it, btw ^^^^^^^ |
| 19:40.24 | mitchnull | ;) |
| 19:40.46 | Primer | except it's the only way to determine if I should show it in some circumstances |
| 19:40.55 | Primer | such as druid forms, and some specific mounts |
| 19:41.24 | mitchnull | well, in any case, I'd add a ~1sec buffer |
| 19:42.11 | steev | new boss is up in voa |
| 19:42.12 | mitchnull | the UNIT_AURA handler would just flag that sometime stuff should be checked (sometime == 1 sec in the future, unless it's already set) |
| 19:42.44 | Primer | http://www.ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/view/trunk/FlightHUD.lua |
| 19:43.09 | Primer | dammit, I wish this thing had line numbers |
| 19:43.36 | Primer | search for "function FlightHUD:UNIT_AURA ()" |
| 19:43.49 | Primer | and tell me if that seems overly expensive |
| 19:44.25 | Primer | I really should rework this code to remove all the object variables... |
| 19:44.44 | Primer | btw, that svnweb wrapper works for any project in svn on wowace |
| 19:45.21 | Primer | and use self. when appropriate...I just never bothered learning when self was what I expected |
| 19:46.01 | mitchnull | primer: as I said, I'd move that to some other function (checkStuff()), and UNIT_AURA() would just flag stuff to be checked after some grace period |
| 19:46.20 | mitchnull | as it stands, that stuff gets run on each UNIT_AURA event |
| 19:46.59 | mitchnull | and that sounds kinda bad even judged by just the line-count-metric :) |
| 19:47.41 | Arrowmaster | yes that checking is entirely way too excessive for UNIT_AURA |
| 19:49.29 | Primer | I see |
| 19:54.58 | Primer | So for an "enable/disable" toggle, should it suffice to register/unregister all event handlers and set/nil all SetScripts? |
| 19:55.53 | Primer | seems sound |
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| 20:00.59 | ckknight | Primer: ugh, == false |
| 20:01.19 | Primer | force of habit |
| 20:01.49 | ckknight | this is you? |
| 20:01.52 | ckknight | urdoinitrong |
| 20:03.20 | Primer | ckknight: Thanks for auditing my code! |
| 20:03.27 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:03.42 | Primer | It needs a ton more auditing, that's for sure |
| 20:04.01 | ckknight | also that you leave a space between the function name and the parenthesis irks me |
| 20:04.02 | Primer | When I started, I wanted to make all variables object properties |
| 20:04.11 | Primer | ckknight: yeah, not changing that |
| 20:04.25 | Primer | if( this_bugs_me ) { |
| 20:04.33 | ckknight | it's inconsistent |
| 20:04.38 | ckknight | yea, that bugs me, too |
| 20:04.44 | ckknight | don't use parentheses there :P |
| 20:04.55 | Primer | if(i==1&&x==2){ // L2SPACES? |
| 20:05.08 | ckknight | if I:BonedYourMom() then Primer.new_daddy = self end |
| 20:05.15 | Primer | well, I program in many languages at work |
| 20:05.18 | ckknight | that should be self:BonedYourMom() actually |
| 20:05.39 | ckknight | Primer: yea, I program in C#, Lua, and JS just at work |
| 20:05.52 | Primer | my condolences (on the C# thing) |
| 20:05.56 | ckknight | why? |
| 20:05.59 | ckknight | C# is pretty nice |
| 20:06.01 | Primer | I do java at work :/ |
| 20:06.03 | Primer | meh |
| 20:06.09 | ckknight | Java is a shitfest, imo |
| 20:06.18 | Primer | no, I group java and C# into the same group |
| 20:06.19 | ckknight | C# has so many things nicer than Java now |
| 20:06.22 | ckknight | I don't |
| 20:06.25 | ckknight | rubs lambdas |
| 20:06.27 | ckknight | mmm... |
| 20:06.48 | Primer | although do a lot of JS too |
| 20:07.28 | Primer | I just need to add one more feature to my addon to make it be 1.0 |
| 20:07.38 | Primer | and that's a waypoint editor in the config |
| 20:07.52 | ckknight | I'm tempted to build a giant map-reduce machine in JavaScript |
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| 20:07.58 | ckknight | seems like a fun challenge |
| 20:08.04 | Primer | once I add that, and refactor all the ModuleName.methodCall, I'll call it 1.0 |
| 20:08.20 | Primer | many js people have a lot of free time, it seems |
| 20:08.29 | Primer | have you seen the nes emulator written in js? |
| 20:08.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:08.43 | ckknight | btw, GetSpellInfo(nonCompanionGroundMounts[i]) can be cached |
| 20:08.56 | Primer | yeah, I should do that too |
| 20:09.12 | Primer | I just noticed that was a potential CPU eater |
| 20:09.36 | ckknight | also, seeing as you're not wrapping it in parentheses, as-is, you're passing in a shit-ton of arguments to UnitBuff |
| 20:09.37 | ckknight | not just two. |
| 20:10.04 | Primer | btw, do you like my svnweb thing? :) |
| 20:10.24 | Primer | as stated previously, you may replace "flight-hud" with any svn-based wowace project name |
| 20:10.35 | Primer | and it'll work |
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| 20:11.28 | Primer | I was thinking of making the index page contain links to all such projects |
| 20:11.46 | Primer | but I never bothered to find a way of obtaining that info |
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| 20:13.51 | ckknight | Primer: shiny. |
| 20:13.57 | ckknight | how you managing that? |
| 20:14.04 | Primer | just a simple hack to svnweb |
| 20:14.13 | Primer | one-liner in a perl module |
| 20:14.13 | ckknight | hmm |
| 20:14.19 | Primer | IIRC |
| 20:15.12 | Kaelten | Primer: link? |
| 20:15.39 | Kaelten | nvm found it |
| 20:17.14 | Primer | bah, wtf, paste site is broken |
| 20:17.38 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:17.46 | Kaelten | http://paste.wowace.com/? |
| 20:17.49 | Primer | yes |
| 20:17.53 | Primer | I've pasted this twice |
| 20:17.54 | Kaelten | how is it broken? |
| 20:18.30 | Primer | http://paste.wowace.com/1683/ |
| 20:18.41 | Primer | dunno, hit paste, the form would just reset |
| 20:18.47 | Primer | anyhow, that's what I did |
| 20:18.48 | Kaelten | weird |
| 20:19.17 | nevcairiel | i've seen that alot lately |
| 20:19.26 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt be using the firefox trunk builds, would you? :P |
| 20:19.31 | Primer | 3.6 |
| 20:19.38 | Primer | on Linux |
| 20:19.50 | Primer | from a third party repo :/ |
| 20:20.00 | Primer | since firebug 1.5 causes 3.5.x to seg |
| 20:20.12 | Primer | and I _need_ firebug for work |
| 20:20.16 | nevcairiel | use 1.4 :P |
| 20:20.21 | Primer | and 1.4.x was too flaky |
| 20:20.27 | nevcairiel | 1.5 was designed for 3.6/3.7 |
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| 20:20.55 | genetik- | Primer: firebug 1.5 works fine for me in 3.5.x |
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| 20:21.42 | genetik- | does it only segfault on something specific that i'm not using it for maybe? |
| 20:22.31 | Primer | genetik-: not on x86_64 it doesn't |
| 20:22.56 | nevcairiel | i heard that firefox on linux on x86 is just terribly unstable in general |
| 20:23.01 | Primer | it's not |
| 20:23.06 | Primer | unstable, that is |
| 20:23.11 | genetik- | FreeBSD thrust 8.0-RELEASE-p2 [...] amd64 |
| 20:23.17 | genetik- | that might be the difference |
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| 20:23.42 | ThiefMaster | http://tm.privatepaste.com/137095d6ba <- any ideas which of those addons could cause a big fps loss in a 25M raid but no issues when ~10 people are dead or in 10M raids? |
| 20:23.44 | nevcairiel | the moz devs are still alot focusing on windows, it could work so much better on linux in so many cases :( |
| 20:23.59 | Xtek | <3 cookies |
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| 20:24.54 | genetik- | ThiefMaster: why are you using grid and grid2? |
| 20:25.03 | ThiefMaster | grid2 is disabled |
| 20:25.09 | ThiefMaster | just installed it for testing and i'm not using it |
| 20:25.11 | genetik- | are there any others disabled in that list? |
| 20:25.22 | ThiefMaster | i think so.. i thought it would only list enabled ones :x |
| 20:25.24 | ThiefMaster | let me see.. |
| 20:25.56 | genetik- | probably not using both bindpad and quserkey also |
| 20:26.04 | genetik- | though that wouldn't have any performance issue |
| 20:26.06 | Primer | genetik-: I was told by the developers it was specific to x86_64 on Linux |
| 20:26.14 | genetik- | Primer: ah, ok |
| 20:26.16 | genetik- | :) |
| 20:26.23 | Nechckn | If that is the Swatter list, ThiefMaster, by causing a fake error, say /run dude! - then those are the currently active AddOns. |
| 20:26.29 | ThiefMaster | yes |
| 20:26.44 | Kaelten | don't trust that Nechckn guy, he steals cookies |
| 20:26.45 | ThiefMaster | and e.g. pallypower is clearly disabled |
| 20:27.11 | genetik- | ThiefMaster: what do you use XRS for? |
| 20:27.39 | genetik- | i mean, which features |
| 20:27.50 | Nechckn | removes another chocolate chip from Kaelten's kitchen. |
| 20:30.09 | NivFreak | so it's amusing |
| 20:30.22 | NivFreak | my wowinterface email is getting tons of fake account emails |
| 20:30.30 | NivFreak | nothing else, just my wowinterface account |
| 20:30.41 | NivFreak | sounds like someone fucked up |
| 20:40.54 | ThiefMaster | genetik-: offline/dead count |
| 20:41.19 | ThiefMaster | could gridmanabars be the cause? iirc somebody mentioned it being "bad".. but i think that was when someone asked for it in grid2 |
| 20:41.40 | ThiefMaster | ah, and mana of possible healer classes @ XRS |
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| 20:53.17 | mitchnull | thiefmaster: get rid of fubar :) (it's probably not the one causing your fps issues, but still :) |
| 20:53.56 | PREFIX | Hey, is there any good way to see how much CPU addons actually take? My i7 920, 6gb ram, geforce gtx 280 is having insane FPS issues in (25man) raids. I did notice from CPU profiling that lib: Ace3 is doing 2500+ cycles? (50% of addon usage) just standing in dalaran in a raid. |
| 20:53.58 | Primer | my understanding has always been that someFrame:Hide(), when not showing, was practically a noop |
| 20:54.06 | Primer | or is this not true? |
| 20:54.30 | Primer | PREFIX: get rid of Ace3 |
| 20:54.33 | Primer | runs |
| 20:54.37 | genetik- | haha |
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| 20:54.48 | Primer | sorry, couldn't pass that up :) |
| 20:54.51 | PREFIX | :P |
| 20:54.52 | genetik- | @project addon-profiler |
| 20:54.54 | Repo | genetik-: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/addon-profiler/. Addon Profiler. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 151 days ago |
| 20:54.59 | genetik- | try that |
| 20:55.24 | PREFIX | thanks i will |
| 20:55.30 | genetik- | you'll need to toggle the cpu option and reload your interface before it does cpu stuff |
| 20:56.07 | Primer | where is this cpu option? |
| 20:56.12 | genetik- | uhm |
| 20:56.17 | genetik- | on the left side if i recall correctly |
| 20:56.17 | Primer | I was told about addon-profiler earlier |
| 20:56.30 | genetik- | on the main window (/ap) |
| 20:56.41 | Primer | uh, in the addon's config itself |
| 20:56.47 | Primer | I thought you meant some global config |
| 20:56.48 | genetik- | http://static.curseforge.net/content/images/15/817/profiler.png |
| 20:56.56 | genetik- | "enable cpu profiling" |
| 20:57.45 | PREFIX | aye i've been using /script SetCVar("scriptProfile", 1) |
| 20:57.47 | PREFIX | and 0 |
| 20:58.00 | PREFIX | + optionhouse |
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| 21:15.22 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r336 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: Valithria, Sindragosa, Lich King |
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| 21:42.22 | Gagorian | What was the name of the API call to get the table with the item stats? |
| 21:47.39 | Arrowmaster | !api itemstat |
| 21:47.39 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'itemstat': GetItemStatDelta, GetItemStats |
| 21:50.23 | Shadowed | Gagorian: Keep in mind it's not going to return data on everything thought |
| 21:52.14 | Gagorian | What would be missing? |
| 21:53.47 | Shadowed | gems, enchants "of the <blah>" modifies off the top of my head |
| 21:53.59 | Shadowed | there was some other things it didn't return too |
| 21:54.10 | Gagorian | myes, I won't probably be using it for anything anyway.. just experimenting |
| 21:54.37 | Gagorian | Would be way easier if there was a simple API call to get the combined stats from all gear |
| 21:54.52 | Gagorian | like spell power |
| 22:01.27 | Gagorian | Anyone know if mage water elemental scales with caster haste rating? |
| 22:03.05 | Gagorian | Google says no |
| 22:08.44 | Primer | I'm writing out a "raid frames" howto for my guild, and I just though about how cool it would be have a plugin to indicate direction to the raid member |
| 22:09.05 | Primer | I actually wrote an addon to do this, which uses TomTom's crazy arrow |
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| 22:09.57 | Primer | but thought that it'd be nice to have something like this incorporated into a raid frames addon |
| 22:10.32 | Primer | somehow |
| 22:10.39 | TNSe | AUCTION HOUSE FROM iPHONE??? |
| 22:10.41 | TNSe | wtflyingdf |
| 22:10.55 | Primer | perhaps an 8 point compass arrow |
| 22:11.04 | Primer | something simple to display |
| 22:11.22 | Primer | Shadowed: what do you think? |
| 22:11.27 | Shadowed | huh? |
| 22:11.49 | Shadowed | sounds mostly pointless |
| 22:11.49 | Shadowed | except for rare cases |
| 22:11.50 | Primer | why? |
| 22:14.23 | Nechckn | TNSe Not to mention, it will likely be an added cost to use it. |
| 22:15.16 | Nechckn | TNSe Then people can really snipe auctions just as they expire, so bidding will be even more useless, imnsho. |
| 22:15.26 | Primer | Shadowed: I think it'd be invaluable in pvp, for example |
| 22:15.27 | TNSe | heh |
| 22:15.42 | TNSe | sniping auctions is hard enough already |
| 22:15.53 | Primer | I think I will write a PitBull4 module to do this |
| 22:19.07 | Nechckn | TNSe It all depends on exactly what you can do with the App.. simply seeing the AH is just about useless. That also opens a door to all sorts of other issues unless they have security as the primary enhancement/objective and everything else secondary. |
| 22:19.36 | yoshimo | can you give me an example for bad stuff? |
| 22:19.48 | KriLL3 | lol, retail product on sale, exact same one bulk isn't, retail is cheaper... and it includes some goodies beyond the shiny cardboard box |
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| 22:21.49 | Nechckn | yoshimo issues from the service itself, either taxing the AH response for live or "remote" users. Since Blizz has been relatively insulated by their no external access allowed policy - up until that point. |
| 22:24.27 | Ingela | is there a new interface toc number thing? |
| 22:25.03 | Ingela | with the new patch i mean :) |
| 22:26.14 | yoshimo | its a minor patch, it shouldnt |
| 22:26.37 | Ingela | good shit |
| 22:27.25 | yoshimo | well most of the auctions arent worth bidding on them before they end because both prices are almost equal |
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| 22:30.12 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r295 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix tickets 134 & 135 |
| 22:30.16 | Repo | few other enhancements |
| 22:30.22 | Nechckn | yoshimo On the servers I lurk - 6, 8 factions; it usually goes in phases. |
| 22:31.31 | Nechckn | Seems that when a big patch is around or xpack, there are more "normal" auction-type listings with a lower bid and higher buyout - but, as time passes, things tend to dwindle to the same bid/buyout, which are generally lower. |
| 22:32.26 | Nechckn | Obviously not every server or faction - nor consistent, but it just seems to be of more potential trouble than benefit to the end-users. |
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| 22:37.16 | Shefki | lol 3.3.2 didn't fix the IOC problem. |
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| 22:39.51 | yoshimo | you still need iociconfix.. i bet the debuff on the siegeengine is still broken then :D |
| 22:40.02 | Shefki | yoshimo: Yup. |
| 22:40.11 | Shefki | I looked at the art to see if I should mark my addon as obsolete. |
| 22:40.15 | Shefki | But nope the art is still bugged. |
| 22:40.46 | Shefki | siege engine debuff? |
| 22:42.43 | yoshimo | you could measure the time until the engine in ioc is repaired with a mouseover. because the mechanic needs 3m and the debuff on the engine had a duration of 3m in the past. so you didnt have to rely on yells. but this buff shows less then 1m30 nowadays |
| 22:42.48 | yoshimo | so forget scanning |
| 22:43.07 | Shefki | Ahh I didn't even know about that. |
| 22:43.27 | Shefki | We almost never have theh workshop so I never noticed. |
| 22:45.51 | Primer | looks like this would be fairly trivial to add to PitBull4 |
| 22:46.15 | yoshimo | it was a nice feature in capping while it lasted ;) i reported that bug ages ago, they always say"yes we will fix it", but they dont :D |
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| 22:46.41 | Torhal | Shefki: Did it fix the OnUpdate issue? I'm still downloading tha patch... |
| 22:57.07 | yoshimo | i think i read earlier that they didnt |
| 22:57.52 | Shefki | Torhal: OnUpdate issue? |
| 22:58.37 | Nechckn | Shefki Most likely the anything relying on OnUpdate halts if WoW is minimized, unless in Windowed mode. |
| 22:58.41 | Shefki | Primer: Trivial to add what to PB4? |
| 22:58.44 | Nechckn | afaik, it has not. |
| 22:58.53 | Shefki | Nechckn: Ohh that, that's windows only. |
| 22:58.58 | Nechckn | correct |
| 22:59.19 | Shefki | I swear I should just make an addon called BlizzardFails |
| 22:59.28 | Shefki | And include all the fixes for the UI bugs they make. |
| 22:59.35 | Shefki | As they fix stuff I can drop the fixes. |
| 22:59.41 | Shefki | And as new ones get added we can add them. |
| 22:59.55 | Shefki | Users only have to keep it updated rather than bothering to go find the fix for the latest screw up. |
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| 23:02.48 | yoshimo | do we still need the fix for addonoptions which open the wrong category? |
| 23:03.24 | Shadowed | 3.3.2 didn't change anything |
| 23:03.25 | Primer | Shefki: an 8 point compass image to indicate direction to the raid member |
| 23:03.36 | Shadowed | It was basically some minor changes |
| 23:03.43 | Primer | one of 8, based on the the actual direction |
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| 23:04.15 | Shefki | yoshimo: Pretty sure that isn't broken anymore. |
| 23:04.28 | Shefki | yoshimo: I was testing that last night pre-patch with no addons loaded and it was working fine. |
| 23:11.36 | yoshimo | shame on blizzard that we addon authors need to fix their bugs ;) |
| 23:12.46 | Shefki | yoshimo: I think at this point it makes sense to stop making a one off addon to fix this or that and to just make a single addon that has fixes for whatever pops up. |
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| 23:13.15 | yoshimo | mhm, i just have iociconfix and yaiap |
| 23:13.56 | Shefki | You can ditch yaiap |
| 23:14.04 | Shefki | I haven't seen one of those pop up since 3.3.0 hit. |
| 23:14.15 | Shefki | Of course now we have "user ____ is not in your party" |
| 23:14.32 | Shefki | Unless they just changed that error message to the other. |
| 23:14.55 | yoshimo | we have you arent in a raid now / or guild which yaiap also handles |
| 23:15.27 | yoshimo | libgrouptalents and wim and pallypower might cause it |
| 23:16.36 | Caleb| | @api GetActiveTalentGroup |
| 23:16.45 | Caleb| | ~api GetActiveTalentGroup |
| 23:16.46 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetActiveTalentGroup |
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| 23:39.32 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1275 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:39.33 | Repo | - Mirror Image updates: Mirror Image crits for 150%, crit chance 5% etc. |
| 23:40.36 | Repo | - Water Elemental updates: Now -really- properly gets double stacked effects of Totem of Wrath/Demonic Pact. Water Elmental crits for 150%, crit chance 5% etc. |
| 23:40.40 | Repo | - Add Furor * Lunar Guidance increase in spell power when manually enabling moonkin aura, if moonkin specced |
| 23:40.41 | Repo | 10honorcapitall: 03Shefki 07master * v0.4-2-g60a3a59 HonorCapItAll.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the problem with quests in the quest log changing (getting |
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| 23:49.45 | Gagorian | Anyone know yet what the PvP -10% healing debuff is called? |
| 23:49.47 | Gagorian | Shadowed? |
| 23:49.50 | Shadowed | Gagorian: ? |
| 23:49.55 | Shadowed | there is none as far as I can tell Gagorian |
| 23:50.06 | Shadowed | It might only be when you're in an activate wintergrasp, but I think it's an invisible aura :| |
| 23:50.31 | Gagorian | Meh |
| 23:51.08 | Gagorian | Wrote any snippet yet to check for areas? |
| 23:51.37 | Shadowed | not yet |
| 23:51.54 | Shadowed | WG is the main annoyance |
| 23:52.15 | Gagorian | Why's that? |
| 23:52.28 | Shadowed | You can check battleground/arena with second return of IsInInstance() |
| 23:52.30 | Shadowed | (pvp/arena) |
| 23:52.44 | Shadowed | pretty sure wintergrasp does not give you that |
| 23:52.58 | Gagorian | hmmmkay |
| 23:53.42 | Shadowed | You could do it in a locale independent way by checking GetMapInfo() maybe |
| 23:54.53 | Gagorian | mapFileName, textureHeight, textureWidth = GetMapInfo(); |
| 23:57.01 | Shadowed | Yea, not sure if you'd get conflicting issues due to some of the map scan mods |
| 23:57.32 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.7-10-g37ec7ca / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 23:57.34 | Repo | 37ec7ca: Added info on the main/alts feature when showing the welcome to EG message |
| 23:57.35 | Repo | 233c5fe: Fixed QueueUnit trying to scan the player |
| 23:57.48 | Gagorian | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrentMapAreaID |
| 23:57.55 | Gagorian | What do you think of that? |
| 23:58.25 | Gagorian | or does that mean you have to have it open? |
| 23:58.53 | Groktar | sigh |
| 23:58.57 | Groktar | did voa today |
| 23:59.04 | Groktar | got the gloves from 25 man and legs from 10m |
| 23:59.09 | Groktar | wish it was the other way around |
| 23:59.12 | Groktar | warrior gloves are so bad |
| 23:59.13 | Groktar | :( |
| 23:59.24 | Shadowed | Hrm I think that would work Gagorian |
| 23:59.34 | Shadowed | it's the same as GetMapInfo() thought if the map changes due to a mod |
| 23:59.49 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Ah I got it |
| 23:59.50 | Gagorian | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetZonePVPInfo |
