00:00.27 | Megalon | 50% to get a fol-heal which indicates what is used |
00:01.35 | yoshimo | i have told you my spellpower what in the logfile should i look for? |
00:02.17 | Megalon | 2437 was the spellpower? |
00:02.23 | Megalon | non critical heals |
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00:02.25 | Megalon | which are either |
00:02.30 | Megalon | < 3045 |
00:02.31 | Megalon | or |
00:02.38 | Megalon | > 3120 |
00:02.53 | yoshimo | flash of light? |
00:02.58 | Megalon | yes |
00:05.30 | yoshimo | they are all between 5600 and 5700 between aura applied and removed, a few of them critical for around 8500 |
00:06.48 | Megalon | hm |
00:06.53 | Megalon | oh, what was the factor |
00:06.57 | Megalon | spellpower => healing? :x |
00:07.15 | Megalon | I'm so used to damage spells from simulationcraft :| |
00:08.17 | Megalon | hm |
00:08.25 | Megalon | well, I probably fail at paladin mechanics ;) |
00:08.32 | Fisker | haxes Megalon |
00:08.42 | yoshimo | didnt gagorian say, shadowed could do the math? |
00:08.44 | Megalon | firewollZ |
00:10.52 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
00:10.54 | Fisker | wanna make out? |
00:11.09 | Megalon | firewollZ even moar |
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00:13.20 | yoshimo | well, im off as well now, if its still not clear , ill be back, in a few hours |
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00:23.52 | Repo | 10charscanner: 03kunda * r34 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
00:23.54 | Repo | fix: sort by class is now sorted by localized classnames instead of english classnames |
00:23.55 | Repo | change: mainrole texture (same as LFGRole) instead of text strings |
00:24.00 | Ingela^ | is it possible to revert to a earlier revision in curse client |
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00:36.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7118 Plugins/Bars.lua: |
00:36.36 | Repo | Implement disable click action and fix report to also work in battlegrounds. |
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00:41.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7119 Plugins (2 files in 1 directory): |
00:41.15 | Repo | 'Implement' the superemp action, depends on the emphasize module actually being implemented. Just missing the menu action and localizations. |
00:45.08 | koaschten | Ingela^ not that i know off, you would have to go to the addons page on curseforge or wowace and grab the older version by hand |
00:45.20 | Shadowed | back |
00:45.29 | Shadowed | bah now yoshimo left |
00:45.36 | Ingela^ | yeap, i did that but just asked if it was possible to do it with curse |
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00:58.07 | Stanzilla | shows Fisker his Schnitzel |
01:03.42 | Dessa | that sounds so wrong |
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01:07.48 | cralor | lol |
01:08.26 | cralor | ugh how do i hide this damn totem timer background o_O |
01:08.55 | cralor | Pitbull... |
01:10.08 | Kilroo | ugh...WTB Curse module for Minion... |
01:11.28 | cralor | I hope I am not disturbing/disrupting you, Shefki, but do you know how to hide the totem timer background in PitBull? |
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01:56.51 | Torhal | pompy: Stop eating puppies. |
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02:03.19 | vhaarr | jesus christ, 14 hours to compile openjdk 64bit |
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02:24.05 | Aeyan | Bummer |
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03:44.22 | KriLL3 | arkanes: your tank's dps is too low clearly |
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04:46.49 | Funkeh` | fuck |
04:47.00 | Funkeh` | BF: Bad Company 2 uses punkbuster |
04:47.04 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
04:47.50 | Funkeh` | I was so glad that CoD moved over to VAC, why don't they do the same :(( |
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06:23.52 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta3-3-gf712450 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
06:23.54 | Repo | f712450: Byte values above 1024 will now be displayed using the IEC binary unit symbols. |
06:23.55 | Repo | ccdcb51: Added the prefix for Antiarc's MarySue (lol) AddOn, and cleaned up some tab formatting. |
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06:35.20 | orionshock | what is " Received a CTCP VERSION GNAA > j00 from supqstavm (to #wowace) " supposed to mean ? |
06:35.54 | Nechckn_ATSS | That is the spammer crap |
06:36.10 | Nechckn_ATSS | why all the folks are being d/c for flooding atm. |
06:36.56 | Nechckn_ATSS | Sorry.. unless you knew all of that and were just laughing at them. |
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06:37.07 | orionshock | i did not |
06:37.09 | Nechckn_ATSS | is rather tired, so mumbley. |
06:37.30 | orionshock | there is like 12 of them in the channel log for me @ ~ 19:39 |
06:38.45 | Nechckn_ATSS | the injection attacks that have been plagueing freenode - now they are getting sneakier. |
06:39.08 | Nechckn_ATSS | Hitting up those with ctcp clients that don't block |
06:39.14 | orionshock | is it a client vulnerability ? |
06:40.07 | Nechckn_ATSS | Hrm... I guess you could look at it that way. If your client does not allow you to ignore/block such requests, is my limited understanding. |
06:40.21 | Nechckn_ATSS | Or.. if you don't have the option set, if it exists. |
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06:41.14 | orionshock | i use XChat, & tbh, have no clue if this is a problem for me |
06:44.29 | Nechckn_ATSS | Hrm.. I dunno. |
06:45.03 | Shefki | The point of that is to try and flood the network. |
06:45.13 | Shefki | THey send CTCP VERSION request to large populated channels. |
06:45.23 | Shefki | Clients respond and create a lot of traffic. |
06:45.27 | Nechckn_ATSS | Shefki does Xchat respond? |
06:45.29 | Shefki | It's a traffic multiplication attack. |
06:45.31 | Shefki | Yes. |
06:45.33 | Nechckn_ATSS | kk |
06:45.43 | Shefki | You should be responding to CTCP VERSION. freenode does it everytime you log on. |
06:45.50 | Shefki | Which is part of the problem. |
06:48.04 | quiescens | I blame shefki |
06:49.04 | nevcairiel | You don't have to respond to the ctcp version request on connect |
06:49.10 | nevcairiel | its not like freenode kicks you if you dont |
06:49.16 | nevcairiel | i just ignore all ctcp |
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06:50.17 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It's part of their malicious user detection stuff. They'd really prefer that you would respond to it. |
06:50.31 | nevcairiel | I'm sure due to the current situation they wouldnt |
06:51.34 | nevcairiel | freenode just needs a new channel mode that blocks channel-wide ctcps like quakenet has |
06:51.39 | nevcairiel | wonder if seven has that |
06:51.55 | Shefki | Good question. |
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06:54.24 | nevcairiel | doesnt look like it |
06:54.58 | Nechckn_ATSS | or shiibot!! =) |
06:56.24 | nevcairiel | oh, they do |
06:56.27 | nevcairiel | its just not documented |
06:56.43 | nevcairiel | http://dev.freenode.net/ircd-seven/changeset/31f7b52a2425c024ab137c9417ab0dea7503f0b1 ^ |
06:57.39 | quiescens | nothing is ever documented |
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06:58.26 | nevcairiel | hooray for reading changesets |
06:59.38 | Repo | 10travelagent: 03Torhal 07master * 3.3.0-1.0.3 TravelAgent.lua: [+1 commit] Clicking on the little plus/minus icon or the zone/instance name is no longer necessary - clicking anywhere on its line will work. |
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07:06.37 | profalbert | wtf is "Deus Vox"? |
07:06.50 | Torhal | profalbert: Raid encounter AddOn |
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07:10.11 | profalbert | ah, is it any good? looks like it aims at replacing bigwigs |
07:10.21 | Torhal | Never tried it |
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07:11.18 | orionshock | anyone know if GetPartyAssignment("Main Tank") will return a list of names ?? |
07:11.52 | Torhal | orionshock: It does not |
07:11.56 | Torhal | orionshock: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetPartyAssignment |
07:12.14 | nevcairiel | it works like GetPartyAssignment("MAINTANK", "raid1") |
07:12.20 | nevcairiel | just to check *if* someone is that |
07:12.22 | nevcairiel | not who is that |
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07:32.51 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Actually that's not true since 2.1.0 |
07:33.07 | Shefki | nevcairiel: You can query the main tank list with just GetPartyAssignment("MAINTANK") |
07:33.20 | Shefki | There are also unit ids for maintanks and mainassist |
07:33.31 | Shefki | maintank1, maintank2, etc... |
07:33.43 | Shefki | And mainassist1, mainassist2, etc... |
07:34.44 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r92 Localization.lua: Locales updated. |
07:34.57 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle 04v1.1-beta-3 * r93 : Tagging as v1.1-beta-3 |
07:36.14 | nevcairiel | its not documented on the two API pages i know, so it cannot be true :d |
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07:37.06 | Shefki | Actually now that I think about it I don't remember if those unit ids still work. |
07:37.24 | Shefki | They were in for a while. Can't remember if they pulled them or not. |
07:38.04 | Shefki | Anyway the joys of having to reverse engineer our documentation. |
07:38.22 | nevcairiel | even blizzard fully iterates the roster and doesnt use a list thats supposedly being returned by that function for role-type headers |
07:40.04 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Because the Blizzard code was written before that was added. |
07:40.21 | nevcairiel | blizzard doesnt add stuff unless they want it for their code |
07:40.24 | Shefki | And there's really no reason to change it. |
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07:40.52 | nevcairiel | do you actually use that somewhere? |
07:41.05 | Shefki | No I just remember figring out that it worked. |
07:41.47 | Shefki | Because I wasn't clear on how the API worked so I played around with it. |
07:42.03 | nevcairiel | It just doesnt seem like blizzard to have a function that returns completly different things |
07:42.39 | nevcairiel | too bad i dont have a raid around :d |
07:43.02 | Shefki | GetItemFamily() is one of my favorite contextual returns. |
07:43.29 | Shefki | If the item you do it on is a container it'll return a bitflag specifying the type of items that can go in the container. |
07:43.47 | Shefki | Any other item will return the bitflag for the type of containers they can go in. |
07:44.16 | Shefki | So you have to indepdently check if the container is a bag since the containers themselves can only go in general bag slots. |
07:44.32 | nevcairiel | well its at least the same type of return, just with another meaning :d |
07:44.35 | Shefki | s/container is a bag/item is a container/ |
07:45.03 | Shefki | There's another one someplace that returns a table sometimes or a single value sometimes I just can't think of it. |
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07:48.11 | Shefki | http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up |
07:48.13 | Shefki | lol |
07:48.52 | Shefki | The sad thing is 9 iphones would be more capable, they could run 9 apps at once. |
07:49.21 | nevcairiel | haha yea |
07:49.44 | nevcairiel | I will never get the design decision that made them completly remove multi tasking |
07:50.02 | Shefki | It makes sense on a phone. With limited CPU resources. |
07:50.20 | nevcairiel | other phones have no issues |
07:50.26 | Shefki | Palm had the same limitations forever. |
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07:51.18 | nevcairiel | android will start killing apps if it runs low on resources, but it doesnt force-close your browser just because you want to respond to a SMS |
07:51.22 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It's also a battery issue. |
07:51.55 | Shefki | I'm not sure how the iphone deals with it. But on Palm it saves the state of the app and when you go back to it it restores it. |
07:51.58 | nevcairiel | And how did that work out for the iPhone? |
07:52.06 | Shefki | So the app doesn't stay running but it doesn't really show up. |
07:52.12 | nevcairiel | It still only comes with 2 battery states .. "empty" and "charging" |
07:52.20 | Shefki | *shrug* I don't have one. |
07:52.48 | Shefki | It does seem like an old limitation. |
07:53.15 | nevcairiel | I bet they took some shortcuts in the OS due to it, and can't simply flip a switch to allow it now :d |
07:53.18 | Shefki | But I do think they have some legitimate technical reasons for wanting it. Though I also think it sucks from a user perspective. |
07:53.30 | Shefki | Ohh I'm sure the did. |
07:54.01 | Fisker | gentleshefki |
07:54.21 | Shefki | But I won't buy an iPhone if for no other reason than the whole appstore BS. |
07:54.30 | Shefki | I shouldn't have to break into my own damn device. |
07:55.14 | nevcairiel | All smartphones have certain limitations, though. Although the iPhone is the most extreme |
07:56.48 | nevcairiel | I simply wouldn't buy a iPhone due to their BS carrier-locks, or the really extreme price for an unlocked phone |
07:57.03 | Shefki | I have a Treo 680. I'll probably get an android based phone when I decide to get a new phone. |
07:57.12 | nevcairiel | 800⬠for an unlocked iphone? i can get 2 of my android for that price |
07:57.33 | nevcairiel | or switch to t-mobile for a carrier, what i really don't want to =P |
07:58.03 | Shefki | I have AT&T with a fully unlocked phone. |
07:58.22 | Shefki | I've never really had any issues with them and I'e had them for years. Long before the iPhone came along. |
07:58.22 | Repo | 10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta3-4-g677de95 Spamalyzer.lua: [+1 commit] If a user changes the default UI's channel colors, Spamalyzer will do the same. |
07:58.36 | Shefki | Bt they have really good coverage in this area compared to other carriers. *shrug* |
07:58.57 | nevcairiel | I don't know much about US carriers anyway |
07:59.11 | nevcairiel | i got my phone from my carrier as well, but its still a default unlocked retail phone |
07:59.15 | nevcairiel | no brandings, no nothing |
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08:00.13 | nevcairiel | didnt even come with a carrier-specific wallpaper :d |
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08:03.23 | Torhal | It's sad that I have to disable Curse comments due to spammers (or, rather, the Curse staff's inability to filter them out) |
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08:10.12 | Shadowed | I just disabled the Curse comments cause they are terrible to work with |
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08:10.16 | Shadowed | easier to tell people to use tickets/wowace |
08:10.28 | nevcairiel | I still have them enabled and just ignore them |
08:10.30 | Shadowed | Spam's gotten better in the past month or so, not fixed but better |
08:10.32 | nevcairiel | let users help themself in there |
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08:14.44 | Lysithea | Shefki did you work any further on that honor thingy? |
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08:26.20 | Fisker | android has no limits nevcairiel! |
08:26.35 | Fisker | sings "Push is to the limit" |
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09:14.05 | orionshock | ah.. finally |
09:14.29 | orionshock | so im working on this age old question of "How do i make MD target the tank of the group im in automatically" |
09:14.38 | orionshock | i think i have a solution finally |
09:14.41 | Nechckn_ATSS | Get that body out of your trunk and into the swamp? |
09:15.33 | Kuosi | there's should be a call func for tank role? |
09:15.57 | orionshock | yes, UnitGroupRolesAssigned, GetPartyAssignment (LFD / Raid ) |
09:16.12 | orionshock | but it's a matter of automagically targeting the player, and that's interesting to do |
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09:35.55 | Repo | 10orbscreamer: 03Shefki 07master * 4b5d52f / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit |
09:36.54 | Repo | 10orbscreamer: 03Shefki 04v0.1 * af7226a /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1 |
09:39.20 | Wobin | orionshock, have it set the focus |
09:39.32 | orionshock | Wobin, then it uses your focus |
09:39.43 | Wobin | most hunters use the focus for their md macros anyway |
09:40.07 | mitch0 | anyone using awesomewm? apparently it's configured/scripted in lua |
09:40.29 | orionshock | Wobin, but i like magic |
09:40.44 | Wobin | mitch0, eh? |
09:40.54 | Wobin | @info orbscreamer |
09:41.08 | Wobin | @project orbscreamer |
09:41.11 | Repo | Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/orbscreamer/. OrbScreamer. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. Shefki (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 minutes ago |
09:41.37 | mitch0 | wobin: http://awesome.naquadah.org/ |
09:41.42 | nevcairiel | another specific failbot addon? =P |
09:42.07 | Shefki | It's not really a failbot because it's not something you'll care about all the time. |
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09:42.50 | Shefki | The most likely person to fail is the tank tanking the caster Prince and most likely they can survive a 25k+ hit. |
09:43.20 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/orbscreamer/. OrbScreamer. Shefki (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
09:43.29 | Torhal | Actually, it's more than a fail AddOn |
09:44.57 | Shefki | I've been writing several of these one off addons for the Icecrown achievements because I hate the "Did we do it right. Ahh crap guess not we didn't get it." |
09:49.58 | yoshimo | shadowed, Gagorian , do you still need to work out the 2p t10 bonus ? |
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09:52.11 | quiescens | 1+1=3 |
09:52.15 | Repo | 10inoculationcheck: 03Shefki 07master * v0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial Commit. |
09:52.24 | Repo | 10inoculationcheck: 03Shefki 04v0.1 * 9cbe2c7 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1 |
09:53.00 | yoshimo | shefki, why do you create one addon per achievement and not one for all? |
09:53.16 | Shefki | yoshimo: Becuase I don't want all of them loaded. |
09:53.22 | Shefki | I only turn on the one I want. |
09:53.32 | yoshimo | valid reason |
09:53.46 | Shefki | They really aren't something you'll probably run every week. |
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09:53.52 | Wobin | unless you're hardcore and going for multiple achievements at once =) |
09:53.55 | Shefki | Unless you're doing the achievement they're pointless. |
09:54.06 | Shefki | Wobin: Different bosses. |
09:54.40 | Kalroth | pull all the bosses at once then |
09:54.59 | Shefki | yoshimo: That said I'll probably just shove the Sindragosa achievement into InoculationCheck addon since I'm also lazy and the code would be nearly identical. |
09:55.43 | yoshimo | help me, what is the sindragosa achievement about? |
09:55.59 | Fisker | what the fuck is it Shefki ? |
09:56.30 | Shefki | "Defeat Sindragosa in 10-player mode without any member of your raid receiving more than 4 stacks of Mystic Buffet. " |
09:56.47 | Wobin | nomnomnom |
09:56.54 | Fisker | besides |
09:57.02 | Fisker | bigwigs shouuld have that shit built in |
09:57.06 | Fisker | amirite vhaarr? |
09:57.15 | Shefki | I don't use BigWigs anymore. |
09:57.42 | Fisker | it's ok as long as you don't use anything else |
09:57.52 | Shefki | I use DXE now. |
09:58.00 | Fisker | DXE? |
09:58.00 | Torhal | Fisker: He uses The Force. |
09:58.04 | Shefki | Mostly because the range check is fucking amazing. |
09:58.31 | Fisker | @project DXE |
09:58.31 | Repo | Fisker: No project found that matches 'dxe' |
09:58.34 | Fisker | fu u |
09:58.35 | Shefki | @project dues-vox-encounters |
09:58.36 | Repo | Shefki: No project found that matches 'dues-vox-encounters' |
09:58.39 | Fisker | owned |
09:58.46 | Shefki | @project deus-vox-encounters |
09:58.47 | Repo | Shefki: http://www.wowace.com/addons/deus-vox-encounters/. Deus Vox Encounters. Game: WoW. kollektiv (Manager/Author), korruna (Author), Fearendon (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Sockfolder (Former author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 9/39 |
09:58.54 | yoshimo | it is but according to mysticalos their mapsizes are off by 50-100 pixel sometimes |
09:59.10 | Shefki | yoshimo: Yeah it's not perfect but it's really nice. |
09:59.34 | Shefki | And with every bloody boss having the need to spread out practically anymore. |
09:59.56 | nevcairiel | what does it do? use coordinates for accurate ranges? |
10:00.00 | yoshimo | indeed it is, i just installed dbm for rangechecks because they recalculated all mapsizes and it is awesome^^ |
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10:00.12 | yoshimo | nevcairiel, they do |
10:00.32 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Uses the minimap icons. |
10:00.55 | mitch0 | shefki: last I checked DXE used GetPlayerMapPosition() |
10:01.06 | nevcairiel | I dont think you can actually access any information on the minimap |
10:01.23 | Shefki | err yeah map position. Not minimap. |
10:01.36 | Shefki | Now that there are raid maps. |
10:02.13 | yoshimo | mappositions of players together with the information how big the area is , some math and voila, you got the range between them^^ |
10:02.58 | Shefki | It sucked on BQL when it didn't have the info for the range check the first night. |
10:03.02 | yoshimo | i sometimes think blizz bugged lanathels room for exactly that reason^^ |
10:03.26 | Shefki | I don't think enough people use DXE at this point for them to care. |
10:03.48 | nevcairiel | its the same sort of calcs we've been using for years on the outside maps for gathering etc, its nothing new, fwiw |
10:03.58 | yoshimo | dbm has the same function shefki^^ |
10:04.29 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Well yeah, but it's newer to the boss mods. |
10:04.38 | nevcairiel | dbm rarely invents new functions, they usually just combine whatever other addons invent :d |
10:04.48 | Shefki | yoshimo: When did DBM get that, last I heard they were still doing the same as what BigWigs did. |
10:05.20 | yoshimo | 4.40 i think |
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10:06.10 | yoshimo | although i read dxes comment on calculating mapsizes and that dbm does it wrong, but i dont know enough math |
10:06.13 | Shefki | Ahh 2 days ago. |
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10:06.43 | yoshimo | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=296883&postcount=210 |
10:07.00 | [Ammo] | all that stuff is just fluff, apply brain = win |
10:07.34 | Fisker | what's the timer for Shefki ? |
10:08.07 | yoshimo | i still would like to know whats wrong about the method of measuring it |
10:08.09 | Shefki | [Ammo]: Fair enough. But given that Blizzard has been fond of making us spread out in small rooms that we can barely fit in to be spread for the debuff, has kinda forced the need for range checks to help. |
10:08.16 | Shefki | Fisker: What timer? |
10:08.43 | Fisker | on the panel |
10:09.06 | nevcairiel | eh, why did DBM actually have to recalculate stuff? you can get zone sizes from the .dbc files, that pretty much map the coordinate translation perfectly |
10:09.10 | quiescens | the solution is to only do 10 person raids |
10:09.29 | yoshimo | nevcairiel, probably they dont know that you can, or how to do it? |
10:09.30 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: because if they don't do that they'd be copying the code 100% |
10:09.43 | [Ammo] | now they can at least say they didn't copy it verbatim :p |
10:09.54 | nevcairiel | are they still not simply admiting to that? |
10:10.00 | koaschten_ | oh man... weather is totally stupid over here |
10:10.06 | koaschten_ | and people driving even more so |
10:10.23 | nevcairiel | koaschten_: keep the stupid weather, i dont want it! send it in fiskers direction! |
10:10.24 | koaschten_ | wednesday snow, thursday snow -> rain, today snow again... |
10:10.30 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: don't really care what they do actually :) |
10:10.36 | yoshimo | the entry in their files tells you that its copied data from dxe :P |
10:10.47 | nevcairiel | DBM has been copying for ever |
10:10.48 | Shefki | Fisker: I have no idea what you're talking about. |
10:11.07 | koaschten_ | i actually missed a mail sent to all saying on thursday to "stay home" due to black ice... |
10:11.19 | Shefki | nevcairiel: TO a certain degree I don't see why it matters if they're copying facts about the game. |
10:11.20 | nevcairiel | in BC they even "accidentally" copied one of bigwigs "fun" announces |
10:11.24 | koaschten_ | must have _slipped_ past me ;) |
10:11.45 | Shefki | fun announces? |
10:11.52 | Fisker | then you don't use it Shefki |
10:11.56 | Wobin | Tentacle party incoming! |
10:11.58 | nevcairiel | bigwigs sometimes has some funny wordings in their announces :P |
10:12.02 | [Ammo] | on the old naxx 40 man they copied the very flawed flight check for sapphiron |
10:12.03 | Shefki | Don't use what? |
10:12.27 | Shefki | You mean the panel in DXE? |
10:12.35 | Shefki | The timer is how long the fight has been going. |
10:12.42 | nevcairiel | didnt we have a purl factoid about tentacle rape partys |
10:12.44 | nevcairiel | ~tentacle |
10:12.45 | purl | somebody said tentacle was the reason for dogel's existance |
10:12.50 | nevcairiel | ~cthun |
10:12.51 | purl | *** Incoming tentacle rape party! ~10 seconds! *** |
10:12.58 | koaschten_ | haha |
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10:13.47 | nevcairiel | that was good times |
10:13.59 | Fisker | what's the bar warning anchor for? |
10:14.07 | Fisker | Haven't been able to find an encounter that uses it yet :o |
10:14.21 | Shefki | *shrug* |
10:14.27 | Bruners | Fisker: you wouldn't |
10:14.33 | Kalroth | haaaaa |
10:14.39 | Shefki | I didn't really feel the need to move stuff around much. |
10:15.12 | Fisker | i don't like all of it stuff in the middle :P |
10:15.51 | Shefki | I did move the range check further up. |
10:16.28 | Kalroth | are you a paladin fisker |
10:16.43 | Kalroth | if so, then you dont need to look at the screen |
10:17.06 | Kalroth | just roll drool on keyboard every minute and press need on all loot that drops |
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10:21.53 | Fisker | ah |
10:22.24 | Fisker | it's just a replacement anchor if you don't want them to appear where raid warnings etc. appears |
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10:24.23 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * 98f4e72 Core.lua: [+1 commit] update bars on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD for proper Spell-icons |
10:31.59 | orionshock | anyone know what this "["titleCol"] = 16744448," entry is in Cart2's Notes DB ? |
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10:32.33 | orionshock | @project cartographer2 |
10:32.35 | Repo | orionshock: No project found that matches 'cartographer2' |
10:32.38 | orionshock | @project cartographer-2 |
10:32.38 | Repo | orionshock: No project found that matches 'cartographer-2' |
10:32.43 | nevcairiel | without a number |
10:33.00 | yoshimo | isnt carto kinda dead now? ;) |
10:33.30 | nevcairiel | he wants to write a converter from carto notes to handynotes |
10:33.39 | nevcairiel | so people can move on |
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10:34.28 | yoshimo | ah ok, sry |
10:35.55 | Torhal | But they won't move on, because Cart2 "has everything!" |
10:36.19 | nevcairiel | most people that i saw posting usually are like "but my 2 gazillion map noootes" |
10:37.15 | yoshimo | even if a patch breaks it, someone will come up with a dirty fix and make it usable again |
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10:38.51 | Torhal | It's usually the "it has everything" argument or the "why should I run 5 addons to do what this ONE did?!?" argument. |
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10:39.53 | Shefki | yoshimo: I'm letting rock die now so next time it breaks I'm not fixing it. I've given people plenty of time to get off it. |
10:40.00 | nevcairiel | I really laughed at that guy driving the latest "fix for cartographer" thread |
10:40.16 | nevcairiel | apparently his "fix" is randomly commenting out lines in cartographer until it works again |
10:40.27 | Wobin | rofl |
10:40.33 | Repo | 10drdata-1-0: 03Adirelle 07master * r2.1-2-g4fbf1ae / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
10:40.35 | Repo | 4fbf1ae: TOC bump. |
10:40.36 | Repo | b26bf95: Removed Improved Fire Totem random stun, which does not exist anymore. |
10:41.01 | nevcairiel | its true :( |
10:41.07 | Torhal | "until the errors went away" |
10:41.33 | Repo | 10stackings: 03profalbert 07master * 685aef5 Core.lua: [+1 commit] initialize bars at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD rather than ADDON_LOADED |
10:41.37 | yoshimo | there is no error shown-> it works? ;) |
10:41.45 | nevcairiel | I don't have a clue about the code there - I just tried several things until the errors went away. There was a lot of "--" involved |
10:41.58 | nevcairiel | quote ^ |
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10:41.59 | Shefki | Well if you want to blame someone blame ckknight for not maintaining any of his addons. The ones that survive someone else ends up taking on. |
10:42.07 | nevcairiel | we're far beyond blaming ckk for that |
10:42.13 | Wobin | nevcairiel, you should have told him to put --[[ at the beginning of the file and --]] at the end for the -real- fix |
10:42.14 | nevcairiel | we tried that for the last years, wasnt much fun anymore |
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10:42.34 | nevcairiel | luckily he is too busy these days to push out a new addon every month :P |
10:42.53 | Adirelle|work | Shadowed, I just pushed a minor change to DRData-1.0, you might want to check it |
10:43.16 | Gagorian | Shadowed: ping |
10:44.07 | Gagorian | yoshimo: I looked at the values you posted last night, they're slightly too high to make sense. Did you buy any chane have imp. devotion aura or seal of light active? |
10:44.22 | Gagorian | s/did you buy any chane/did you by any chance/ |
10:44.56 | Gagorian | My fingers are still frozen it seems, -30 wind chill outside |
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10:45.09 | nevcairiel | ~weather edhi |
10:45.22 | nevcairiel | hm its relatively warm today |
10:46.02 | Gagorian | Yeah you don't even need long johns at that temperature |
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10:46.54 | Wobin | ~weather yssy |
10:47.04 | Wobin | noice |
10:47.15 | nevcairiel | ~weather eddh |
10:47.25 | yoshimo | i had improved concentration aura and no seal active |
10:47.35 | nevcairiel | even warmer there |
10:47.38 | nevcairiel | weird! |
10:47.38 | koaschten_ | make it stop :( |
10:47.39 | koaschten_ | http://i48.tinypic.com/29cpf60.jpg |
10:48.14 | nevcairiel | ~weather edxf |
10:48.21 | nevcairiel | huh |
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10:48.52 | Gagorian | yoshimo: Since calculating 1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35(788+1.009*2437) is a bit low I'm wondering if it's possible you had any other effects |
10:48.53 | Shefki | ~weather 4W0 |
10:48.55 | nevcairiel | ~weather 10031 |
10:49.04 | nevcairiel | i guess it only likes those codes |
10:49.05 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35(788+1.009*2437)) |
10:49.05 | lua_bot | Gagorian: luabot:1: ')' expected near '(' |
10:49.09 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35(788+1.009*2437))) |
10:49.10 | lua_bot | Gagorian: luabot:1: ')' expected near '(' |
10:49.19 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35*(788+1.009*2437)) |
10:49.19 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 5412.57237234 |
10:49.20 | Shefki | Bahhh it wants ICAO and all it has is an FAA code. |
10:49.37 | nevcairiel | flensburg only has a WMO code apparently, no ICAO |
10:50.14 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35*(883+1.009*2437)) |
10:50.15 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 5570.93547234 |
10:51.47 | nevcairiel | Wobin: seems rather cold for sydney .. or wait, its night, isnt it? =P |
10:52.11 | Wobin | tis |
10:52.18 | koaschten_ | ~weather ETNS |
10:52.28 | koaschten_ | thats ~10km from here |
10:52.43 | nevcairiel | not much colder then here |
10:52.47 | koaschten_ | than |
10:52.50 | nevcairiel | just keep your snow |
10:53.50 | koaschten_ | haha that village with 500 ppl 1km from my parents got listed on that page -.- |
10:53.54 | koaschten_ | ~weather 10130 |
10:54.00 | nevcairiel | those codes dont work |
10:54.03 | nevcairiel | only the 4 letter things |
10:54.05 | koaschten_ | hmpf |
10:54.07 | Gagorian | ~weather EFTU |
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10:54.42 | Gagorian | ~weather EFKE |
10:54.48 | Shefki | ~weather KRNT |
10:54.49 | koaschten_ | yeah seems like 4 letter ones are mostly army bases and airports |
10:55.07 | Shefki | That's as close as I can get and that's bloody far away. |
10:55.10 | nevcairiel | the ICAO codes are usually just for airports |
10:55.15 | Gagorian | ~weather EFIV |
10:55.40 | nevcairiel | international civil aviation organisation or something |
10:55.44 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Yeah. There's an airport closer but it has no ICAO code. |
10:55.56 | Shefki | ~weather KBFI |
10:56.25 | nevcairiel | heh yeah the air fields of plane manufactorers are on there too |
10:56.38 | nevcairiel | EDHI is the air field of Airbus in Hamburg |
10:56.42 | nevcairiel | EDDH is the public airport |
10:56.47 | Shefki | Boeing Field is no piddly airport. |
10:57.33 | Shefki | Used to be the main airport for Seattle till they built SeaTac. |
10:57.37 | nevcairiel | ah |
10:57.41 | nevcairiel | just has the name, then |
10:57.55 | Shefki | Right. |
10:58.08 | Shefki | It's named in honor of William E Boeing. |
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10:58.52 | Shefki | It's actually owned by the county, except for a brief period during WWII when the federal government owned it. |
10:59.23 | Torhal | ~weather KSDF |
10:59.37 | Adirelle|work | does anyone have some clue about the difference between UnitIsCharmed and UnitIsPossessed ? |
10:59.43 | nevcairiel | I was just thinking, because like i said it lists the air field of the main Airbus area here as well |
10:59.44 | Shefki | But Boeing does all their test flights and most of the final assembly of the 737's there. Plus any weird modifications are usually done there. |
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11:00.05 | nevcairiel | which granted isnt small, since the A3XX can land there :d |
11:00.05 | Torhal | Ah, here's the correct one where I am: |
11:00.11 | Torhal | ~weather KLOU |
11:00.15 | Shefki | nevcairiel: *nod* |
11:00.40 | Shefki | Torhal: Brrr |
11:01.33 | rbarreiros | ~weather LPPR |
11:01.57 | rbarreiros | it's cold :S |
11:02.04 | nevcairiel | pff, 8 C isnt cold |
11:02.14 | rbarreiros | here it is |
11:02.21 | Shefki | nevcairiel: His -13 C is. |
11:02.27 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It's 8 F not 8 C |
11:02.34 | rbarreiros | nah |
11:02.39 | rbarreiros | 8º C |
11:02.43 | nevcairiel | Torhal: is 8 F |
11:02.45 | Shefki | Ohh in Portugal |
11:02.53 | rbarreiros | 46F |
11:02.54 | nevcairiel | which we had last week |
11:02.59 | nevcairiel | i know how f'ing cold that is |
11:03.02 | Shefki | ~weather KSEA |
11:03.10 | rbarreiros | average temp here is 20º C nev |
11:03.16 | rbarreiros | 8 is COLD |
11:03.27 | nevcairiel | 8 is still t-shirt weather, imho |
11:03.46 | Gagorian | ~weather EFET |
11:03.57 | nevcairiel | now thats cold |
11:04.01 | Shefki | ~weather KFOE |
11:05.05 | Shefki | ~weather NZPG |
11:05.29 | nevcairiel | welcome to "Station name not available", have a good stay! |
11:05.35 | Shefki | ~weather NZIR |
11:05.47 | nevcairiel | its rather warm there |
11:05.53 | Shefki | It's summe. |
11:05.55 | Shefki | summer. |
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11:06.06 | nevcairiel | true |
11:06.09 | rbarreiros | meh power surge |
11:06.23 | Shefki | The station name not available is Pegasus field. |
11:06.34 | Shefki | Which serves McMurdo station in the winter. |
11:06.43 | Shefki | NZIR is the summer field. |
11:06.50 | rbarreiros | as I was saying, 8º here is time for lots of clothes, sweaters coats etc |
11:07.22 | Gagorian | lua> print(1.04*1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35*(788+1.009*2437) .. "-" .. 1.04*1.05*1.05*1.12*1.35*(883+1.009*2437)) |
11:07.22 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 5629.0752672336-5793.7728912336 |
11:07.27 | nevcairiel | sends a load of snow to rbarreiros |
11:07.37 | rbarreiros | run away in panic |
11:07.47 | [Ammo] | ~weather twente airport |
11:07.53 | [Ammo] | hmm |
11:08.03 | nevcairiel | you have to lookup the code :d |
11:08.08 | Shefki | ~weather NZWD |
11:08.37 | nevcairiel | ~wether ehtw |
11:08.41 | [Ammo] | yeah |
11:08.45 | [Ammo] | just found that :p |
11:08.46 | nevcairiel | ~weather ehtw |
11:09.03 | Shefki | And that's the other summer field down there. |
11:09.47 | nevcairiel | wtf, that twenthe data is from 2008 |
11:09.52 | nevcairiel | they stopped having weather |
11:09.55 | [Ammo] | they closed the airport :) |
11:10.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
11:10.04 | yoshimo | my favourite linux mirror^^ |
11:10.12 | [Ammo] | it's actually .8 degrees C here |
11:10.20 | [Ammo] | with watery snow |
11:10.33 | nevcairiel | Shefki: that antartica data is also from 2009 |
11:10.51 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Some of those fields aren't used this time of year. |
11:11.03 | nevcairiel | but its summer :d |
11:11.55 | nevcairiel | bah now it started snowing here too |
11:12.15 | nevcairiel | and those big snow flakes too |
11:12.17 | nevcairiel | damn |
11:13.08 | Shefki | ~weather FJDG |
11:13.29 | kandarz | ~weather KUIL |
11:14.02 | kandarz | I don't live there, but I can always count on the weather in Forks, WA to suck to make me feel better |
11:14.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
11:14.21 | kandarz | http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Forks&state=WA&site=SEW&textField1=47.9506&textField2=-124.384&e=0 |
11:14.32 | kandarz | just look at the Detailed 7-day forecast |
11:14.36 | [Ammo] | hehe |
11:14.38 | [Ammo] | rain rain and more rain |
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11:14.49 | Shefki | WTH Quillayute has a ICAO code but Bandera doesn't. |
11:14.53 | Shefki | That's nonsense. |
11:15.18 | kandarz | And where is Bandera? |
11:15.26 | Shefki | Bandera |
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11:15.57 | Shefki | Snoqualmie Valley area. |
11:16.01 | kandarz | I see Chicago, and Texas |
11:16.26 | kandarz | Bandera County Texas |
11:16.41 | kandarz | Bandera have an airport? |
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11:16.47 | koaschten_ | pfff ... news are airing a report from a chocolate exhibition in china... terracota army of chocolate, chinese wall made of chocolate.... what a waste, chines average 100g of chocolate per person |
11:16.50 | Shefki | ~weather KNUW |
11:16.50 | koaschten_ | .... A YEAR |
11:18.03 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r205 / (27 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 19 lines) |
11:18.05 | Repo | *3.02.30 (29-JAN-2010) BETA* |
11:18.06 | Repo | * changed - bar names are no longer displayed by default |
11:18.08 | Repo | * changed - bar names are now on the inside of the bar and will swap between top and bottom depending on item anchor point |
11:18.09 | Repo | * changed - sorting is now done through sort methods, you create a sort method and then assign it as a window default (sort of like rules), you can then assign a different sort method to a bar so it sorts differently from the rest of the window |
11:18.29 | yoshimo | koaschten_ , i eat more than that in 2 days^^ |
11:18.49 | koaschten_ | i average 1pound M&Ms a week ;) |
11:18.50 | Shefki | ~weather KNRA |
11:19.09 | Shefki | That is a ICAO code you stupid thing. |
11:19.26 | koaschten_ | oh wow, nevcairiel did you see this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp7HVU-s7aI |
11:19.32 | SunTsu | yoshimo: more than 100g or more than the terracotta army in chocolate? :> |
11:19.35 | Shefki | Fun airport... It's specifically setup for the US Navy to practice carrier landings. |
11:19.56 | yoshimo | more than 100g, i dont know the wight of that army ;) |
11:20.49 | Gagorian | ~weather UERP |
11:20.57 | Gagorian | Haha. |
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11:21.17 | Gagorian | I bet they're enjoying the cold |
11:21.24 | yoshimo | -60..... i never complain about 0 degrees anymore... |
11:21.37 | nevcairiel | koaschten_: wtf, thats just terrible |
11:22.03 | yoshimo | how low must the temperature get until school is cancelled?^^ |
11:22.20 | rbarreiros | in soviet russia temperature is canceled |
11:23.27 | Gagorian | I think in Finland it's about -40C before the schools are closed |
11:24.02 | Shefki | ~weather KVBG |
11:24.03 | SunTsu | this winter it was colder outside than in my fridge and was approaching the temperature in my deep freezer. It really gave me that icecrown feeling, just no Arthas anywhere |
11:24.37 | nevcairiel | isnt a fridge usually just about 7C? |
11:24.45 | vhaarr | 4-5 |
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11:24.56 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I put mine on 2C |
11:25.03 | nevcairiel | even with 4-5, its nearly every winter below that :D |
11:25.21 | nevcairiel | although the extreme temperatures of -30C are new this year |
11:25.24 | SunTsu | deep freezer is at -18C, though |
11:25.25 | nevcairiel | for germany, at least |
11:25.25 | Shefki | ~weather KHMV |
11:25.48 | Gagorian | The ideal fridge temp is just so high that stuff doesn't freeze |
11:25.54 | Gagorian | So basically like 2-3 |
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11:26.16 | Shefki | ~weather ENSB |
11:26.56 | SunTsu | ~weather EDDL |
11:26.59 | Shefki | ~weather CYLT |
11:27.04 | KnThrak | Hrm, say... anyone know how to update the options-window the moment the user makes a change? Basically I have input fields (multiple), and once the user fills the last one I need to have some way to call a Refresh() after I add another empty field. So that from the perspective of the user the moment there is always one empty field at the bottom. |
11:27.08 | koaschten_ | goddamn |
11:27.11 | vhaarr | imagine the effective temperature at ENSB with 20 MPH wind |
11:27.13 | koaschten_ | can you stop that by now? |
11:27.38 | KnThrak | Cut the last "the moment" :P |
11:28.20 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Nothing close to Siberia I just linked :) |
11:28.25 | KnThrak | I did all the "add another empty field", but due to the lack of automatic refresh when the last field's setter is called you don't see the new field until the options are re-initialized. And doing the whole register AGAIN seems a bit overblown, is there something like an OptionsRefresh() ? |
11:28.59 | Gagorian | That was the coldest place I found in Siberia with a weather monitoring code |
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11:29.59 | nevcairiel | KnThrak: you're creating the options dialogs yourself? |
11:30.01 | Shefki | Gagorian: Yeah I was looking for cold places but you found Polyarny before I thought to look in Siberia. I was looking for more obscure places. |
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11:30.24 | nevcairiel | the arctic has no airports? :d |
11:30.36 | nevcairiel | or alaska? |
11:30.39 | KriLL3 | it does, though the ice is a bit of an issue |
11:30.48 | KnThrak | I use AceConfig3 for that |
11:30.58 | KriLL3 | most planes break using their wheels |
11:31.06 | Shefki | nevcairiel: The last two I did were the closest to the artic. |
11:31.07 | KriLL3 | if that doesn't work you need a very long runway |
11:31.19 | Shefki | Svalbard and Alert. |
11:31.39 | KnThrak | I got all the options, it's a few dropdown boxes followed by a few input fields. And I want to make it so that there's always one empty input field at the bottom, when you fill that another empty one gets added underneath. Adding it in the code the moment the last field's setter is called is easy, but I can't find out how to update the options window. |
11:31.49 | koaschten_ | waoh i just ragequit an old kingdom randomlfg grp because we wiped 3 times at the same trash pack, because after bash and charge the shadowcaster maanaged to finish 2 of his -80% hp nukes.... |
11:31.55 | Gagorian | Places close to the seas are usually warmer than inland.. And Siberia has tons of landmass so you're likely to find cold places there |
11:32.06 | koaschten_ | and the dk, ret and hunter didnt feel like interupting |
11:32.08 | Shefki | ~weather PABR |
11:32.09 | Gagorian | Siberia covers 10% of the earth's land surface :D |
11:32.22 | nevcairiel | KnThrak: usually the options are refreshed automatically after each setter call |
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11:32.33 | Shefki | That's the best I can think of in Alaska. |
11:32.34 | KriLL3 | Gagorian: though cold isn't as chilling with low humidity |
11:32.46 | KriLL3 | which is what you get inland |
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11:33.10 | Shefki | That's a really weird ICAO for the US. |
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11:34.08 | Gagorian | KriLL3: I belive at cold temperatures wind plays a greater role than humidity |
11:34.20 | Shefki | Hmm guess Alaska has their own prefix which is PA |
11:34.25 | KriLL3 | Gagorian: both do |
11:35.08 | Gagorian | Sure, though for some reason the formulas that calculate wind chill don't take into account humidity at all |
11:35.10 | Gagorian | Afaik |
11:35.18 | Gagorian | Humidity is a bigger factor in high temps |
11:35.28 | KnThrak | Nevermind Nev, I think I fould the problem. Thanks ^_^ |
11:35.34 | SunTsu | currently it's 2C here, which feels much colder than the -11C did before christmas |
11:35.36 | nevcairiel | because cold air can't hold as much water anyway |
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11:38.02 | Kalroth | its -3C here :/ |
11:38.04 | Kalroth | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=hjoerring&CELSIUS=yes |
11:38.52 | Shefki | ~weather ULAA |
11:39.05 | Shefki | Bahh tame. |
11:39.25 | Gagorian | Too close to the seas and whatnot |
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11:41.47 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lfgforwarder/. LFG Forwarder. warbaby (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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11:57.33 | Torhal | If you want to see a WTF in action, start reading up from the fourth comment down - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15782-Spamalyzer.html#comments |
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11:58.46 | Wobin | Torhal, he can't even spell Riddick correctly |
11:58.49 | Torhal | Haha |
11:59.06 | Shefki | Probably was already taken. |
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12:06.15 | Gagorian | Torhal: :D |
12:07.02 | Torhal | I'm wondering how the guy manages to log into the site. |
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12:13.00 | Bruners | did i just get a partypoker popup from wowinterface? |
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12:14.13 | evl | Bruners: I did too |
12:14.46 | Bruners | fffffuuuuu |
12:14.55 | Bruners | they can fill the page with adds just not the damn popups |
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12:32.56 | orionshock | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=297050&postcount=12 |
12:33.07 | orionshock | have fun, :) |
12:35.11 | koaschten_ | http://www.commandandconquer.com/news/get-cc-4-public-beta |
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12:40.15 | SunTsu | orionshock: sounds nice, but s/loose/lose/ |
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12:46.40 | orionshock | SunTsu, it is a hack job, nothing more and everything less |
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12:48.41 | asmodai | sb|work: wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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12:56.19 | Repo | 10grid: 03Devilone * r1279 GridStatusAuras.lua: add Earth Shield |
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13:17.33 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.30 Beta 2010-01-29-18-57 * r206 : Tagging as 3.02.30 Beta 2010-01-29-18-57 |
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13:59.43 | Xtek | Heyo. |
14:00.19 | asmodai | oi xtek |
14:00.37 | Xtek | oi, indeed |
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14:02.48 | asmodai | Xtek: Why s? |
14:02.51 | asmodai | so |
14:03.05 | Xtek | Because more cookies are demanded. |
14:03.17 | asmodai | holds out the cookie jar |
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14:08.21 | SunTsu | steals the cookie jar |
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14:20.12 | bluspacecow | \o |
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14:32.53 | KriLL3 | I wish blizz put quest items you need to obtain before using in the quest tracker also |
14:33.29 | KriLL3 | perhaps with a tooltip on hover saying you need to find them first, clicking opens the map with where you get em highlighted |
14:34.58 | KriLL3 | annoying to have to open the inventory on some quests but not others |
14:37.19 | genetik- | i wish blizz would just make a "do everything for me" button |
14:38.16 | KriLL3 | just saying it's not consistent |
14:39.04 | KriLL3 | the map stuff was just in case someone said that it would be confusing |
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15:29.08 | steev | so |
15:29.20 | steev | last night the green slime affixed to a ranged dps |
15:29.56 | steev | one of our hunters went nuts on it as soon as it affixed... and the slime then went after the hunter, while staying fixed on the ranged |
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15:30.26 | steev | still didn't get putricide down though :/ |
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15:36.21 | dracula | yeah I've seen slimes getting 'distracted' sometimes as well |
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15:36.48 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.6-2-gddd3464 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
15:36.49 | Repo | ddd3464: Properly re-calculate the POI Max Bounds when changing the maps scale. |
15:36.50 | Repo | c69c02f: When disabling the BattleMap module, properly restore the previously hidden textures. |
15:37.04 | KriLL3 | why do random quests break frequently nowadays? was really rare at one point, now I encounter a bunch while leveling |
15:37.16 | KriLL3 | missing NPCs, frozen events etc |
15:37.20 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/abandoned-and-inactive-projects/ by Ackis |
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15:45.18 | steev | bleh, i got hit by choking gas 5 times in our first attempt last night :/ |
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15:58.30 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.6-3-g74dc85b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Hide the blobs when scaling the map with the scale handle. |
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16:35.48 | Gagorian | Anyone else noticed that the type = 'number' options in AceGUI-3.0 (imported through AceConfigDialog) seem to be missing the number from the input box occasionally? |
16:36.03 | Gagorian | I haven't really tracked it down but at least after an options reset there's always a few with the missing value |
16:36.45 | Shadowed | Gagorian: pong |
16:36.52 | Gagorian | Torhal: Haha you got a new message from that Riddrick dude |
16:36.57 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Multiplicative |
16:37.27 | Shadowed | huh odd |
16:38.02 | Gagorian | Well everything else on affecting pally heals are multiplicative as well |
16:38.13 | Gagorian | s/on// |
16:38.27 | Gagorian | So I guess it kinda makes sense |
16:44.03 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5.6-7-g4ffdb84 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Switched Paladin 2 piece T10 holy to multiplicative |
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16:59.23 | Gagorian | Example of the bug mentioned above: |
16:59.28 | Gagorian | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/AceGUI.jpg |
17:00.00 | Gagorian | For some reason the 0 isn't displayed |
17:01.22 | Ingela | it's fine for me? :O |
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17:02.31 | Gagorian | Yeah that's the problem, it works randomly most of the time |
17:02.35 | Gagorian | Just sometimes there's an error |
17:02.48 | Shadowed | What's the error? |
17:03.38 | Gagorian | Ermm, not as in error message. Just weird behaviour |
17:04.07 | Gagorian | If I reload for example, the display is fixed on one talent but appears on another |
17:04.21 | Gagorian | (applies to every 'number' type option) |
17:04.37 | Gagorian | Sometimes it just doesn't display the value at all in the input box |
17:04.52 | Gagorian | And the talents all use the same get/set scripts so it can't be that |
17:05.22 | Shadowed | odd |
17:05.30 | Gagorian | For example, I refreshed the UI and now Threat of Thassarian correctly displays 0 but now Improved Rune Tap value is missing |
17:05.32 | Shadowed | Doesn't look like there's anything that should cause that |
17:06.23 | Gagorian | It's not a big deal, but it's weird |
17:06.37 | arkanes_ | maybe its got the wrong display strata? |
17:07.00 | arkanes_ | although text should always be higher than icons, so huh |
17:08.39 | Gagorian | After another reload it appeared in another option that was previously fine |
17:08.43 | Gagorian | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~larssaar/AceGUI2.jpg |
17:09.08 | Gagorian | Pretty random |
17:12.07 | Shadowed | When it doubt, harass nev |
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17:14.33 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: *winks* |
17:14.53 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: *shows hairy leg* |
17:15.02 | Gagorian | Maybe that doesn't work |
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17:16.08 | CrazyBenny_ | I noticed missign numbers in inputs aswell...don't remember which addon was it tho, think quick auctions, but not sure |
17:16.23 | moop | quick question, would this be correct for all things involving the player: if (bit.band(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE, srcFlags) > 0) then |
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17:16.49 | moop | or do I have it the wrong way around? :P |
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17:19.14 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.6.2-30-g4071b1d data/item_data.lua: [+1 commit] Reflagged Revitalizing Skyflare Diamond as good for Resto Shamans regardless of Solace trinkets. |
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17:28.12 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 04v1.5.7 * a3b2765 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.5.7 |
17:29.47 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1251 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Added the missing 5 lowest ilvl warlock T10 pieces |
17:29.50 | Repo | - Added option to select all the tooltip text colors, now you can personalize your tooltip to look like a rainbow or choose something that doesn't look like someone threw up on your tooltip |
17:30.16 | KriLL3 | wow, I just hit 80 on this char and I'm going random heroics to buy triumph gear, and they're whining about my dps |
17:31.04 | KriLL3 | yes, I should ideally be doing 5000 in leveling blues with an average iLVL of 160 |
17:31.31 | rbarreiros | hehehe |
17:31.40 | rbarreiros | gone through that in my latest alt too |
17:31.44 | rbarreiros | a couple hours ago |
17:31.48 | KriLL3 | resto druid with raid gear joined and whined endlessly about our dps |
17:32.08 | Kuosi | KriLL3: if you were fury war or ret pala you could! |
17:32.12 | ckknight | http://addons1.mmosite.com/wow/ |
17:32.17 | KriLL3 | blood dk |
17:32.20 | Kuosi | too bad! |
17:32.32 | Kuosi | frost only workable spec in heroics really |
17:32.35 | Kuosi | if you want dps |
17:32.52 | Kuosi | stuff just dies too fast for unholy atleast |
17:36.25 | Axodious | hey, web question |
17:36.29 | Axodious | which cms you guys prefer? |
17:36.38 | Axodious | drupal, joomla etc etc |
17:36.46 | KriLL3 | wordpress |
17:37.07 | Axodious | i'm making a business site with one |
17:37.18 | Axodious | don't think wordpress woudl work it's more so for blogging |
17:37.27 | durcyn | drupal's probably the most configurable |
17:37.35 | Axodious | yeah that's what i was thinking |
17:37.40 | KriLL3 | Axodious: works just fine |
17:37.46 | durcyn | if it's good enough for obama |
17:37.56 | KriLL3 | and wordpress it very configurable, a ton of plugins |
17:38.33 | durcyn | wordpress is still just blogging software at its core, though |
17:38.50 | durcyn | drupal has plugins for forums and ecommerce and all that business gobshite etc |
17:38.59 | Axodious | yea that's what i was thinking |
17:39.00 | Axodious | lol |
17:39.10 | KriLL3 | you don't really get it |
17:39.28 | KriLL3 | blogging is just one use of a CMS |
17:39.33 | durcyn | seeing as i run sites based on both wp and drupal, yeah, i think i do get it |
17:39.48 | durcyn | feel free to go all ad hominem again though |
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17:39.57 | Axodious | can you even run wordpress local? or is it all in their site |
17:40.04 | durcyn | you can self host it. |
17:40.10 | Axodious | k |
17:40.26 | Axodious | i think i'm gonna give drupal a try |
17:40.27 | durcyn | and yes, it's good software, just make sure there are plugins for what you want before you settle on anything |
17:40.38 | KriLL3 | the wp hosted version can't be modified |
17:40.46 | durcyn | what's the saying? "all software sucks" |
17:43.24 | Axodious | first time using a cms, usually hand code all my websites |
17:43.47 | KriLL3 | I do also, then just put in the appropriate PHP to make use of the WP backend |
17:44.32 | KriLL3 | generally start my designs as static html + css and then convert it into a "theme" |
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17:47.31 | durcyn | ugh, must there be a curse premium notification spam every time the author memberships are renewed |
17:48.07 | Fisker | oooooowned? |
17:48.49 | Ackis | durcyn: submit a ticket! |
17:49.35 | Fisker | btw ckknight |
17:49.39 | Fisker | SC2 Beta requirements |
17:49.42 | Fisker | must be beta inc! |
17:49.57 | KriLL3 | Fisker: somewhat modest I'm guessing? |
17:49.58 | ckknight | want |
17:50.07 | KriLL3 | blizz likes to make scaling games |
17:50.20 | Fisker | 15GB of HDD |
17:50.26 | Fisker | http://eu.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_GB&articleId=38579&parentCategoryId&pageNumber=1&categoryId=7040 |
17:50.27 | KriLL3 | ohnoes! |
17:50.34 | Fisker | Intel Pentium IV 1.3GHz |
17:50.34 | Fisker | AMD XP 1500+Intel Pentium D |
17:50.34 | Fisker | AMD 64 X2 |
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17:50.45 | KriLL3 | 1.3 P4? ouch |
17:50.45 | Fisker | 1.3GHz P4 lol |
17:50.57 | KriLL3 | can't even run windows quickly |
17:51.14 | nevcairiel | isnt WoWs minimum req even higher then that now? |
17:51.25 | KriLL3 | "ATI Radeon 7200 or NVIDIA GeForce 2 class card or better" |
17:51.40 | Gagorian | That can't be right... |
17:51.50 | KriLL3 | what does the game look and feel like on the minimum spec? |
17:52.10 | Fisker | i'd tell you if i had the system and SC2 |
17:52.18 | Fisker | but like shit i'd guess |
17:52.29 | Fisker | maybe they made a special voxel-based SC2 engine for shit comuters |
17:52.29 | Fisker | :D |
17:53.44 | KriLL3 | I don't have anything that crappy |
17:53.54 | KriLL3 | my NAS is a P4 3.0 and GF4 |
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17:56.02 | Fisker | but ckknight |
17:56.05 | Fisker | it must mean beta nao |
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18:04.43 | ckknight | Fisker: WANT |
18:06.35 | ckknight | Fisker: no OS X :( |
18:06.37 | Fisker | Unfortunately, during this phase a Mac version will not be available |
18:06.38 | Fisker | OWNED |
18:06.42 | Fisker | hivemind btw |
18:06.55 | Fisker | except i'm happy, and he's not |
18:06.59 | Fisker | you're* |
18:07.10 | KriLL3 | can dual boot windows |
18:07.44 | KriLL3 | funny that apple themselves provided that capability, guess that's the closes they'll come to admitting that windows has a much broader ecosystem |
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18:11.03 | Megalon | betas Fisker |
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18:13.00 | Fisker | betas Megalon |
18:14.10 | ckknight | KriLL3: true |
18:15.06 | Gnarfoz | beats Fisker |
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18:24.16 | Fisker | feels pain |
18:28.47 | Torhal | Gagorian: Hehehe |
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18:40.25 | NeoTron | man those are some really low system requirements |
18:40.53 | NeoTron | my 7 year old computer, i.e my first WoW computer, is like 2x those requirements |
18:40.58 | NeoTron | can't possibly be right? |
18:41.07 | Megalon | perhaps the engine scales like mad :P |
18:41.33 | Megalon | but blizzard always goes very low with min. requirements |
18:41.59 | NeoTron | it seems almost silly to scale that low - no people playing pc games would still run such an ancient beast as their primary gaming rig :P |
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18:42.44 | pentium166 | maybe they want it to run on netbooks |
18:42.54 | Gagorian | Torhal: Did he call you footrot? :D |
18:43.00 | nevcairiel | even netbooks are faster then that |
18:43.13 | Torhal | Gagorian: No, Footrot responded to him in the comments |
18:43.41 | Gagorian | Ah yeah should've scrolled down, would've made more sense if he had capsed it |
18:43.44 | Gagorian | "Yesterday, my eyes alarm did not match my brain. Like the never does." |
18:43.56 | Torhal | Google translation? :) |
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18:46.40 | Gagorian | I don't think even google translate does that bad a job |
18:46.53 | Torhal | Haha |
18:47.14 | Fisker | i wonder why a blue poster is reserving posts in a LOCKED THREAD |
18:47.26 | Primer | noob |
18:47.59 | Gagorian | Anyone read Alastair Reynolds House of Suns? |
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19:06.47 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy * r60 / (4 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
19:06.49 | Repo | Displays count when printing results for items that drop multiple times on the same mob (i.e. two conq tokens) |
19:06.50 | Repo | Adds "Festergut's Acidic Blood" to the ignored items options |
19:06.52 | Repo | Adds "Rotface's Acidic Blood" to the ignored items options |
19:06.52 | Repo | Adds "Shadowfrost Shard" to the ignored items options |
19:07.36 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy 04v1.1.14 * r61 : Tagging as v1.1.14 |
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19:26.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2812 Database/Jewelcrafting.lua: Added skill levels for some of the jewelcrafting recipes. |
19:26.29 | Repo | Fixed the skill levels of the LK Epic Gem recipes. |
19:28.34 | Megalon | oh, the article about SCII sys. req. is gone :7 |
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19:43.17 | p3lim | does this still work? http://paste.wowace.com/781/ |
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20:03.31 | Fisker | btw ckknight |
20:03.37 | Fisker | if you thought the system reqs was bad |
20:03.38 | Fisker | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=30787&parentCategoryId&pageNumber=1&categoryId=3633 |
20:03.52 | ckknight | Fisker: http://epicwinftw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/129077242752397361.jpg |
20:04.09 | Fisker | that's not sc2 |
20:05.11 | ckknight | sure it is |
20:05.29 | ckknight | it's a marine. |
20:05.36 | Fisker | no it's not |
20:05.41 | Fisker | at best it's an SCV |
20:05.51 | arkanes_ | MOBILE INFANTRY ROLL OUT |
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20:19.40 | harl | hi |
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20:21.03 | Fisker | ready to roll out ckknight |
20:21.16 | ckknight | ready to burn. |
20:22.04 | Fisker | umad? |
20:22.19 | harl | can someone please tell me, if this could actually still work (at least in theory) and also if this is ok with blizzard's current tos/eula? |
20:22.21 | harl | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9645-SpellSilencer.html#info |
20:22.39 | Fisker | against blizzard's tos etc. |
20:22.45 | Fisker | if it works i dunno |
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20:54.01 | arkanes_ | overriding sounds by just extracting folders isnt against the TOS |
20:54.06 | arkanes_ | (if that even works anymore) |
20:54.28 | arkanes_ | the thing that violates the TOS is modifying the contents of the packed files |
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20:57.28 | yoshimo | you can replace sounds ? |
21:00.57 | harl | i know that this was possible some time at least |
21:01.26 | harl | but i haven't tested the contents of that exact archive in respect of their functionality, so i don't know if it still is |
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21:15.20 | KriLL3 | tanks swap color on vortex yes or no? |
21:15.39 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1252 Data/Shaman.lua: - Removed pre-3.3.2 4p T10 bonus from elemental shamans |
21:16.39 | yoshimo | valkyrtwins? |
21:16.49 | KriLL3 | yes |
21:17.16 | yoshimo | i think we didnt but it has been a while |
21:17.52 | Pneumatus | no |
21:18.04 | KriLL3 | tank never swaps? |
21:18.08 | Pneumatus | correct |
21:18.38 | arkanes_ | no reason for the tank not to |
21:19.19 | Pneumatus | gimp dps, risk moving out of healing range etc |
21:19.21 | Pneumatus | plenty of reasons |
21:19.42 | arkanes_ | well we tank them on top of portals |
21:19.48 | arkanes_ | so there's no movement required |
21:20.28 | arkanes_ | if the tank has to move DPS does too, so no reason for the tank not to bring the mob with them |
21:21.36 | NivFreak | we never swapped tank charges |
21:21.42 | NivFreak | in any method |
21:21.51 | NivFreak | tanks can just CD |
21:22.17 | NivFreak | you get maybe 2 vortexes per fight that mismatch |
21:22.21 | arkanes_ | if you need to CD the vortex you're better of saving it for the shield |
21:22.35 | NivFreak | you don't need to CD either |
21:22.37 | arkanes_ | but still there's no reason for the tank not to switch except laziness |
21:22.39 | NivFreak | but if you're worried you can |
21:22.41 | Groktar | ya, i always cd, too |
21:22.54 | Groktar | i sw when the other bubbles |
21:22.55 | KriLL3 | cd? |
21:23.02 | NivFreak | less moving parts == more reliable |
21:23.05 | NivFreak | it's not lazy, it's safe |
21:23.08 | Groktar | and ls/trinky on the vortex |
21:23.11 | NivFreak | KriLL3: cooldown |
21:23.16 | arkanes_ | if your DPS switch, then theres no penalty for the tank doing it also, and if the DPS don't you overgear the encounter and why bother even talking about it |
21:23.28 | Groktar | all the dps don't need to switch |
21:23.31 | NivFreak | if your tank switches charges, he has to switch back to make threat |
21:23.36 | NivFreak | or switch mobs |
21:23.39 | NivFreak | so you can little if anything |
21:23.46 | NivFreak | and increase risk of extra orb impacts |
21:23.55 | Groktar | when i dps that fight i sw the on the vortex |
21:23.57 | Groktar | :p |
21:24.25 | NivFreak | I don't, but watch for my health to become unstable |
21:25.05 | NivFreak | I'm so glad to be out of togc though :P |
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21:29.07 | Groktar | i just can't believe we didn't kill blood queen this week |
21:29.11 | Groktar | after we two shot her last week |
21:29.14 | Groktar | people were so brain dead |
21:29.15 | Groktar | :/ |
21:29.25 | Fisker | 10-man? |
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21:29.40 | NivFreak | our raid failed pretty hard on her last week |
21:29.43 | Gnarfoz | doubtful, you can sleepwalk her to death in 10man |
21:29.47 | NivFreak | airphase... |
21:29.53 | Fisker | @project blessed |
21:29.57 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 24 days ago |
21:29.58 | NivFreak | (25man) |
21:30.10 | Groktar | i just don't understand why it was a problem this week but not last |
21:30.18 | Fisker | exactly Gnarfoz :P |
21:30.19 | NivFreak | did you kill her before the nerf/ |
21:30.20 | NivFreak | ? |
21:30.20 | Groktar | and last week we didn't get around to her untila fter the hotfix |
21:30.24 | NivFreak | ah |
21:30.43 | NivFreak | we had issues with bitten people getting killed in random ways |
21:30.50 | NivFreak | and if bites lined up with airphase, it was pretty much over |
21:30.53 | Groktar | tiny bit of that |
21:30.59 | NivFreak | and some people are just utter failures at biting |
21:31.03 | Groktar | bites always line up with airphase |
21:31.07 | NivFreak | I have to learn who to put in the last bite set |
21:31.11 | NivFreak | so they don't wipe us |
21:31.16 | NivFreak | Groktar: you can shift them |
21:31.19 | NivFreak | with bite timing |
21:31.24 | Groktar | hrm? |
21:31.33 | NivFreak | you have a 10second window that you can bite within |
21:31.47 | NivFreak | biting at the begining or end of that lets you shift the timing around |
21:32.11 | Fisker | still lame that Blizzard haven't just put a cooldown on it |
21:32.20 | NivFreak | on? |
21:32.24 | Groktar | what are you talking about |
21:32.49 | arkanes_ | she's not a faceroll on 10 either :( |
21:33.02 | Fisker | the bites NivFreak |
21:33.06 | arkanes_ | although of course it's all about the DPS check like so many encounters |
21:33.16 | Fisker | Was standing there during airphase |
21:33.19 | Fisker | "fuck i have to bite someone" |
21:33.21 | Fisker | :E |
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21:34.09 | NivFreak | 10man was a joke for us |
21:34.14 | Groktar | ^ |
21:34.16 | NivFreak | 2 shot, should have been 1 |
21:34.29 | Groktar | my 10 man had more issues with blood princes than blood queen |
21:34.33 | NivFreak | ditt |
21:34.33 | arkanes_ | 25 man gear makes it easier |
21:34.34 | NivFreak | o |
21:34.39 | NivFreak | and mostly just the lock tank |
21:34.40 | arkanes_ | princes is easier since the nerf |
21:34.48 | Fisker | we just did princes |
21:34.54 | arkanes_ | we stopped using a lock tank, use 2 real tanks instead |
21:34.56 | Fisker | and the empowered flame sphere targetted the ank |
21:34.56 | NivFreak | we ended up doing 25man princes this week with a druid instead of a lock |
21:35.00 | NivFreak | feral druid |
21:35.00 | Fisker | and we're like ??? |
21:35.08 | Fisker | ank = tank |
21:35.16 | NivFreak | run away! :) |
21:35.26 | NivFreak | not enough valid ranged targets? |
21:35.43 | Fisker | should be |
21:35.47 | Fisker | only me and the tank there |
21:35.55 | arkanes_ | the difference in dps between 264 and 251 gear is larger than the difference for tanks and healers |
21:36.14 | arkanes_ | mainly because of weapons, of course |
21:36.22 | Groktar | who uses 251 gear? |
21:36.24 | Fisker | infact the bossmod also said it was targetted on someone else |
21:36.27 | NivFreak | you're assuming people are kitted in 264 gear |
21:36.28 | Groktar | demands at least 258 |
21:36.30 | Megalon | but for most people |
21:36.32 | NivFreak | and not still 245/258 |
21:36.35 | Megalon | it's 258 => 264 |
21:36.36 | arkanes_ | 10 man guilds |
21:36.39 | Megalon | which is more meh |
21:36.42 | NivFreak | no one cares about 10man guilds ;P |
21:36.45 | arkanes_ | I do |
21:36.49 | arkanes_ | since I am one |
21:37.00 | NivFreak | ICC10 is harder in blues too |
21:37.03 | arkanes_ | and its irritating to hear people complaining about how trivial DPS checks are |
21:37.06 | Fisker | we never got to kill anub :( |
21:37.10 | arkanes_ | when they overgear them :P |
21:37.21 | NivFreak | so you're a 10man strict guild? |
21:37.23 | Groktar | yeah, what are these dps checks everyone is on about? |
21:37.23 | arkanes_ | yes |
21:37.23 | Fisker | and i doubt most guilds would've done so to get ~100 tokens :P |
21:37.32 | Groktar | has no idea what the big deal is |
21:37.32 | NivFreak | no 25man loot on your raiders at all? |
21:37.46 | arkanes_ | we do the first wing of icc 25 as a pug every so often |
21:37.54 | arkanes_ | but we have perhaps 10 pieces across all our raiders |
21:37.54 | NivFreak | right, so you're not a 10man strict guild |
21:38.12 | NivFreak | you guys just can't run a consistent 25man raid |
21:38.17 | Fisker | "We're a 10-man guild, but don't you dare use your spare time to pug 25-man content?" |
21:38.27 | NivFreak | there's a difference |
21:38.30 | NivFreak | between strict 10man guilds |
21:38.36 | arkanes_ | we're a 10 man strict guild |
21:38.37 | NivFreak | and 10man guilds that run 25mans when they can |
21:38.41 | NivFreak | no, you're not :P |
21:38.42 | arkanes_ | we do puggable 25 content |
21:38.51 | NivFreak | all of the 25man normal content is pugable |
21:38.56 | steev | which is everything these days |
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21:39.05 | arkanes_ | not really |
21:39.16 | Megalon | well, prof. needs a few tries |
21:39.25 | Megalon | and most pugs tend to dislike wipes |
21:39.29 | NivFreak | hey, guilds haven't kiled him still |
21:39.32 | arkanes_ | better hope it's more than 10 |
21:39.37 | arkanes_ | er, less |
21:40.05 | NeoTron | Man NivFreak is being an elitist jerk! |
21:40.24 | arkanes_ | nah it's cool |
21:40.26 | NivFreak | if you really think that blizzard tunes 10mans as tightly for people doing strict 10man progression, as they do for people doing 25man progression, you're mistaken |
21:40.31 | NivFreak | (hardmodes are all that matter here) |
21:40.45 | arkanes_ | there are no icc hardmodes yet, of course |
21:40.49 | arkanes_ | so they don't matter |
21:40.55 | NeoTron | 10 man is, relatively speaking, easier than 25 man but still significnatly harder than it is for CC 25 man raiders |
21:40.55 | NivFreak | right, but you have 2 previous tiers to reference |
21:41.07 | arkanes_ | sure |
21:41.33 | NivFreak | ICC is still new, it seems harder than it is because it's new |
21:41.37 | arkanes_ | and no, obviously, 10 mans are not tuned as tight as 25 mans because they can't be and still be completable |
21:41.43 | NivFreak | right |
21:41.44 | arkanes_ | no, it seems harder because it is harder |
21:41.52 | NivFreak | so taking us talking about how 10man was a pushover |
21:41.55 | NivFreak | and getting defensive |
21:41.56 | arkanes_ | you can't do the kind of tank damage to a 10 man tank as you can to a 25 man |
21:41.56 | NivFreak | is dumb |
21:42.11 | arkanes_ | because he doesn't have 4 healers on him |
21:42.30 | arkanes_ | and same with raid damage and so on |
21:43.00 | arkanes_ | DPS is tuned much tighter in icc normal than toc normal was though |
21:43.01 | NivFreak | there hasn't been a super challenging 10man encounter since s3d |
21:43.24 | NivFreak | heh |
21:43.30 | NivFreak | so while my main is geared to the teeth |
21:43.36 | NivFreak | my alts are mainly 10man gear |
21:43.39 | NivFreak | or BoEs |
21:43.43 | arkanes_ | 3d10 was only challenging because there's more roles to fill than you had people to fill them |
21:43.50 | NivFreak | and running groups where I'm one of the better geared people, we have no problems in ICC10 |
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21:44.32 | NivFreak | in fact, my rogue tops charts in some of the 10man ICC groups |
21:44.42 | Groktar | wow, badly geared rogue! |
21:44.45 | Groktar | j/k |
21:44.45 | NivFreak | yes |
21:44.46 | NivFreak | :P |
21:44.51 | NeoTron | in many cases the ease is solely due to having less people in a fixed space room too |
21:45.01 | arkanes_ | thats also true |
21:45.13 | arkanes_ | sometimes it works against you, like on princes |
21:45.26 | arkanes_ | but more often its a benefit |
21:45.31 | NivFreak | much more often |
21:45.39 | NivFreak | and BQL is a great example |
21:45.43 | NivFreak | it's so very much more simple |
21:46.08 | NeoTron | but very clearly there has been example of 10 man fights that were excessively harder in 10 man |
21:46.11 | NivFreak | while the fight has a high dps bar in 25man, it's more about proper execution than actual raw dps |
21:46.27 | NeoTron | say when the enrage is the sme absolute numbers as 25 man but less people to deal with it |
21:46.43 | arkanes_ | faction champs is easier 25, in my experience |
21:46.46 | NivFreak | what fight was drastically harder than the 25man version outside of s3d? |
21:46.47 | arkanes_ | as an example |
21:46.54 | NivFreak | arkanes_: I would MASSIVLY disagree |
21:46.56 | arkanes_ | not drastically, but easier |
21:47.15 | NivFreak | but I'm guessing you never did 25h |
21:47.27 | Groktar | all toc 10 mans were significantly easier than 25 mans |
21:47.27 | arkanes_ | whats harder about 25 hard? |
21:47.36 | NeoTron | Festergut |
21:47.39 | arkanes_ | you've got 2 more enemies |
21:47.47 | NivFreak | they can't be taunted, they focus harder, cc smarter, it's fucking brutal |
21:47.47 | arkanes_ | and 15 more cc options |
21:47.52 | NeoTron | and to be honest, rotface too |
21:47.53 | NivFreak | and when you get 5 melee, it's a serious pita |
21:47.54 | arkanes_ | I know the difference between hard and normal |
21:48.03 | Groktar | i never had 5 melee... |
21:48.05 | NivFreak | NeoTron: waitm, what? |
21:48.07 | NeoTron | for 10 man geared guilds the healing si a lot harder, relatively speaking, than in 25 |
21:48.19 | NivFreak | how would you know that |
21:48.19 | NivFreak | ;P |
21:48.21 | NeoTron | NivFreak: you have not done those in 10 man gear. |
21:48.24 | NivFreak | you don't heal either |
21:48.25 | NivFreak | yes, I have |
21:48.38 | arkanes_ | pre nerf rotface was harder in 10 |
21:48.44 | NeoTron | but I do know that Festergut enrage in 10 man was significantly harder (which is why it was nerfed) |
21:48.53 | NivFreak | you're thinking rotface |
21:48.58 | NeoTron | it took out a larger percentage of the raid due to using absolute numbers rather than relative to raid size |
21:49.04 | Groktar | hehe, speaking of festergut enrage |
21:49.04 | NeoTron | yes I am |
21:49.06 | NeoTron | swap those :P |
21:49.10 | NivFreak | rotface was fucked |
21:49.11 | NivFreak | they fixed that |
21:49.17 | NivFreak | they've done the same shit in 25s |
21:49.23 | Groktar | we didn't know he had an enrage until we tried our alt 25m |
21:49.28 | NivFreak | fuck, look at XT002 hardmode in ulduar? |
21:49.30 | NeoTron | but festergut healing is very noticeably harder in 10s with people fgeared in 25 man gear |
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21:49.40 | NivFreak | you couldn't even trigger it before they fixed the encounter |
21:49.47 | NeoTron | I mean with 3 healers it's rather trivial now but I've bene close to dying many times in that fight |
21:49.54 | arkanes_ | pre nerf marrowgar was too |
21:49.57 | NivFreak | have you missed our 25man raids or something? |
21:50.03 | NivFreak | but see |
21:50.08 | NivFreak | talking about pre-nerf versions is silly |
21:50.12 | NivFreak | blizzard fucks up balance constantly |
21:50.12 | arkanes_ | but sure |
21:50.12 | NeoTron | I'm comparing our 25s with my 10s |
21:50.21 | NivFreak | you need to look at the state of things now |
21:50.30 | arkanes_ | why do I need to do that? |
21:50.41 | NivFreak | because blizzard's balance is a moving target |
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21:50.49 | NivFreak | and it doesn't matter what's fucked up on day 1 |
21:51.03 | NeoTron | still think it's very hard to properly account for balnce if you're an experienced 25 man raider |
21:51.17 | NivFreak | why? My alts are badge heros |
21:51.19 | NeoTron | it's not just gear but let's be honest here - successful 25 man raiders are typically better raiders |
21:51.24 | NivFreak | they probably have worse gear than a proper 10man raider |
21:51.28 | arkanes_ | I don't really find that to be true |
21:51.31 | NivFreak | right neo |
21:51.33 | NivFreak | that's sort of my point |
21:51.34 | NeoTron | not being elitist but skill is a very definite difference |
21:51.36 | NivFreak | you can't blame this all on gear |
21:51.37 | arkanes_ | the people at the front end of progression are |
21:51.49 | Funkeh` | ffs Shadowed |
21:51.57 | Funkeh` | yet again in oculus |
21:51.58 | NeoTron | arkanes_: I did 10 man raiding early in wotlk, exclusively, and we were experienced 25 man raiders. we got bored very very fast |
21:52.05 | Funkeh` | error followed by DC |
21:52.09 | arkanes_ | but you especially as the normal modes get weakened and people gear up you can carry people in 25 you can't carry in 10s |
21:52.13 | NeoTron | moving to 25 mans, we cleared naxx with 20 people in two weeks (using like 3-4 healers tops) |
21:52.21 | NivFreak | arkanes_: hah, now that's a bullshit |
21:52.24 | Funkeh` | libhealcomm sending too much shite |
21:52.32 | Groktar | i don't think you can measure anything by naxx |
21:52.40 | arkanes_ | NivFreak: you're claiming 25 normal is harder than 10 hard? |
21:52.46 | NeoTron | arkanes_: frankly I don't see that as being true either |
21:52.48 | NivFreak | I didn't say that |
21:52.50 | NeoTron | and we're not talkin about hard modes |
21:52.50 | NivFreak | you say 10n |
21:52.57 | NeoTron | compare 10 man hard to 25 man hard |
21:52.59 | NivFreak | you need to either compare 10n to 25n |
21:53.02 | NivFreak | or 10h to 25h |
21:53.13 | NeoTron | hard modes are actually often HARD and intentionally so |
21:53.13 | Groktar | ^ |
21:53.17 | arkanes_ | I think that comparing 10h to 25n is entirely reasonable |
21:53.23 | arkanes_ | since they give you the same ilevel of gear |
21:53.23 | Groktar | no it's not |
21:53.23 | NeoTron | normal modes, especially 10 man, is intentionally not hard |
21:53.30 | NivFreak | it's not at all |
21:53.31 | NeoTron | it's not |
21:53.35 | NivFreak | you're foolish to think that |
21:53.41 | arkanes_ | why is that? |
21:53.42 | NeoTron | you also get the same ilevel gear in ToC25 as you do running heroics |
21:53.47 | arkanes_ | sure |
21:53.49 | NivFreak | because they designed 25n to be accessible |
21:53.53 | NivFreak | just like 10n |
21:53.54 | NeoTron | does that mean toc 25 is a fair comparision to running Azjol'nerub? :P |
21:54.04 | NivFreak | ^ |
21:54.11 | arkanes_ | gear resets obviously throw relative balance off |
21:54.11 | NivFreak | ilvl of gear != difficulty |
21:54.25 | Funkeh` | Shadowed, when i was casting prayer of healing |
21:54.31 | Funkeh` | so it's probably that bugging |
21:54.34 | NeoTron | 10 man hard modes give experienced 25 man raiders trouble, no doubt about it |
21:54.36 | arkanes_ | is ulduar harder than normal POS? |
21:54.44 | Funkeh` | possibly because the players i was casting it on were on vehicles |
21:54.45 | Funkeh` | no idea |
21:54.47 | NivFreak | ulduar10? |
21:54.48 | NivFreak | not really |
21:54.48 | Funkeh` | afk |
21:54.50 | NivFreak | :) |
21:54.55 | arkanes_ | heh |
21:54.56 | arkanes_ | lies |
21:55.00 | NeoTron | pure 10 man guilds CAN do 10 man hard modes but it's not going to be easy in the slightest |
21:55.09 | Fisker | lets kill Groktar |
21:55.14 | NivFreak | the problem is the demographic of 10man guilds |
21:55.25 | Groktar | ie people who don't care that much? |
21:55.27 | NivFreak | there aren't many strict 10man guilds, and you're admittidly not one of them |
21:55.30 | NivFreak | of those "guilds" |
21:55.32 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: when I say we are a 10 man guild, I mean that we do 10 man hard modes, not that we're casual raiders who can't fill a 25 man roster |
21:55.34 | NeoTron | that's better than the first tier when S3D was basically impossible for a pure 10 man guild. quick malygos kill was borderline |
21:55.37 | NivFreak | most of them don't do very well |
21:55.39 | NeoTron | s/basically// |
21:55.43 | arkanes_ | I'm not admittedly anything, so fuck you |
21:55.57 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
21:56.24 | NivFreak | anyway, I care not what you use to justify your existance and have fun |
21:56.32 | NivFreak | but interjecting into a conversation others are having |
21:56.39 | NivFreak | by basically infering you have more skill |
21:56.44 | NivFreak | it's ignorant |
21:56.51 | arkanes_ | yes, thats what you did :P |
21:56.52 | arkanes_ | anyway |
21:57.05 | NeoTron | arkanes_: the point remains though, that normal mode 10s might be easier or harder (depending on fight) than 25s, but in general are balanced a bit lower |
21:57.11 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: sure |
21:57.14 | NeoTron | and I think we can all pretty much not say anything about hard modes |
21:57.14 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: I'm not disagreeing |
21:57.18 | NeoTron | since we haven't seen them |
21:57.28 | NivFreak | I was talking with groktar, and you interjected, so yes, clearly I did it |
21:57.33 | NeoTron | and can also assume with great accuracy that 10H is way the hell harder than 25N :) |
21:58.03 | NivFreak | assuming 10 compitent people vs 25 compitent people, surely |
21:58.22 | NeoTron | have to assume that |
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21:58.25 | NivFreak | agreed |
21:58.36 | NivFreak | when do we get to have 25 compitent people? :) |
21:59.10 | NivFreak | and with that, meeting time |
21:59.19 | NeoTron | and I think the assumption that MANY (not all don't get me wrong here) 10 man raiding guilds are NOT the same quality as the people that run 10H and 25N progression (25N being ones that don't just run 4 bosses per week and stop because the next wings ar too hard) |
21:59.38 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: there are very very few 10 man raiding guilds period |
21:59.38 | NeoTron | it's a lower bar to raid 10s simply due to more flexible raid makeups, less people needed etc :) |
21:59.52 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: whether they fit the requirement of barring members from pugging or not |
22:00.08 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: even when you count the casuals, there's twice as many 25 man guilds as 10 on our server |
22:00.09 | Shadowed | Funkeh`: Hrm, at most that should only be 175-200 characters still |
22:00.16 | Shadowed | but as I said |
22:00.36 | Shadowed | It's easier if you add a specific output for the message it tried to send, because I can debug it a lot quicker than if you just tell me "It sent too long of a message" :p |
22:00.44 | arkanes_ | there's only 4 10 man guilds taht were even attempting hard modes, and 1 of them recently switched to 25s |
22:01.24 | arkanes_ | I'll note that the reason they gave is that the reward/effort ratio is higher in 25s |
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22:03.34 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: does your server have a large population of people who fit the description of 10 man guilds? Honestly curious there |
22:04.01 | arkanes_ | maybe ours is an anomoly, since we have a pretty high level of 25 man progression |
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22:15.39 | Groktar | it never would have occured to me to fight the mobs behind the lich king in RoS |
22:15.41 | Groktar | lol |
22:16.01 | arkanes_ | sort of ruins the epicness of the encounter |
22:16.07 | Groktar | yeah |
22:16.16 | Groktar | but at least pugs can kill it then |
22:16.17 | Groktar | heh |
22:16.40 | Megalon | if all pugs you get into fail Groktar |
22:16.45 | arkanes_ | doing it the real way is really rough with a melee heavy group |
22:16.47 | Megalon | perhaps it's not the other 4 people! |
22:17.05 | arkanes_ | you get one of those stupid casters stuck inside his aura and it can suck |
22:17.22 | Groktar | lol Megalon |
22:17.27 | Groktar | and what arkanes said |
22:17.38 | Groktar | the frustrating thing is when you have mages and dks in your pug |
22:17.49 | Groktar | and they won't help get the casters out of his stink cloud |
22:17.50 | Groktar | :( |
22:17.51 | arkanes_ | and they wont silence or dg him? |
22:17.52 | arkanes_ | yeah |
22:17.56 | arkanes_ | bastards |
22:19.59 | Groktar | hmm |
22:20.28 | Groktar | is trying to convince a couple death knights to go blood for saurfang this tuesday |
22:20.36 | Groktar | i want to double hysteria/tricks someone |
22:20.40 | Groktar | but i can't decide who |
22:20.43 | Gagorian | Anyone French here? *nudges towards* http://www.wowace.com/addons/dr-damage/localization/frFR/?untranslated |
22:20.49 | arkanes_ | Groktar: they dont stack |
22:21.16 | arkanes_ | but regardless, the correct answer is "someone who just got marked" |
22:21.22 | Groktar | tricks has a really short cd tho |
22:21.32 | arkanes_ | 15 sec |
22:21.35 | Groktar | and why marked? |
22:21.42 | arkanes_ | so the hysteria kills them of course |
22:21.50 | arkanes_ | why else would you hysteria someone? |
22:22.05 | Groktar | lol |
22:22.25 | arkanes_ | but seriously, if you're just trying to go for the best possible chain of enrage effects |
22:22.29 | arkanes_ | I guess a ret pally? |
22:22.46 | arkanes_ | if you time everything perfectly you could probably get 100% uptime |
22:22.49 | Groktar | ret pallies do a lot of holy damage tho |
22:23.08 | arkanes_ | its only like 20% |
22:23.26 | Groktar | a furry warrior would probably be better than a ret, except for the fact that i get rolled by our rets on saurfang |
22:23.29 | Groktar | :( |
22:23.38 | arkanes_ | I was thinking that the pally can use wings to extend the chain longer |
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22:23.56 | Groktar | deathwish has a 2m cd |
22:24.01 | arkanes_ | oh right that |
22:24.11 | arkanes_ | yeah fury would be the way to go |
22:24.40 | arkanes_ | whats the range on hysteria? |
22:24.53 | Groktar | we could probably get 3 hysterias and 2 deathwishes from 2dks |
22:25.13 | Groktar | hysteria on the pull, deathwish when that runs out, have the second dk hysteria |
22:25.23 | Groktar | fury war's deatwish will be up at 2:30 |
22:25.35 | Groktar | first dk's hysteria will be up at 3:00 |
22:25.51 | Groktar | so you'd lost like 10 seconds from that last hysteria, but it would be close |
22:26.31 | arkanes_ | huh when did they change the tricks glyph |
22:26.35 | Groktar | you'd be looking at 1.5 minutes of downtime |
22:27.01 | arkanes_ | maybe I'm just crazy |
22:27.22 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.4_beta-4 * r1253 : Tagging as 1.7.4_beta-4 |
22:27.23 | arkanes_ | glyphed tricks is 10 seconds |
22:28.25 | NeoTron | arkanes_: I have, honestly, no clue at all |
22:28.42 | Groktar | ok, so have the rogues save their tricks for between the first deathwish and second hysteria |
22:28.50 | Groktar | with two rogues that's 20 seconds there |
22:28.55 | Groktar | another 20 seconds afterward |
22:29.16 | silentium | ~seen zeksie |
22:29.21 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 44d 23h 54s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
22:29.33 | Groktar | leaving 20 seconds before the next deathwish is up |
22:29.35 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: in my experience, the vast majority of sub-par raiders are in nominally 25 man guilds, although they may not be able to fill rosters and end up running 10 mans |
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22:29.54 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: when they consistently cant fill 25s they end up breaking up rather than transitioning to 10 mans |
22:30.40 | nevcairiel | because they want to raid 25 in the first place |
22:30.46 | arkanes_ | sure |
22:32.29 | NeoTron | I'm not talking as guilds as a whole but at progression guilds really. there are more 25 man guilds but very many of them are crap |
22:34.10 | Groktar | ok, i figured out with two rogues and a 2dks buffing a warrior |
22:34.15 | Groktar | you could get the 30% for the entire fight |
22:34.16 | Groktar | lol |
22:34.17 | NeoTron | speaking as someone who did play a lot, always, and who tried 10 man, it just isn't sufficient amount of content (or rahter, it wasn't) |
22:34.26 | arkanes_ | tricks is only 15, though |
22:34.51 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: you mean you clear it too fast? |
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22:36.47 | steev | apparently i'm at 5649 gs, no idea what that means, but i guess its good since people always want 5k+ |
22:37.13 | Gnarfoz | it means nothing |
22:37.15 | arkanes_ | I'm pretty sure it means your epeen runs at 5649 RPM |
22:37.22 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: why not use all cooldowns at once! :P |
22:37.36 | Groktar | dw and hysteria don't stack |
22:37.48 | arkanes_ | Groktar: neither does tricks! |
22:37.55 | Gnarfoz | tricks sure does |
22:38.03 | arkanes_ | no |
22:38.08 | arkanes_ | well |
22:38.19 | arkanes_ | the patch notes said no, I can't confirm it from independent testing |
22:38.25 | Gnarfoz | patch notes? |
22:38.27 | Gnarfoz | what patch notes |
22:38.34 | arkanes_ | 3.1? I think? |
22:38.43 | arkanes_ | when they made enrage effects in general not stack |
22:38.50 | Gnarfoz | tricks is not one? |
22:38.54 | arkanes_ | it is though |
22:39.00 | Gnarfoz | they changed MD to stack, like Tricks, what more proof do you need |
22:39.11 | arkanes_ | the threat transfer stacks |
22:39.20 | arkanes_ | not the damage buff |
22:39.25 | Gnarfoz | well, it's one buff |
22:39.30 | Killmore | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ThudZiwTY <--- worst UI ever ?! |
22:39.35 | Gnarfoz | not sure if they separated that out |
22:39.42 | Killmore | look the recount O.o |
22:39.43 | arkanes_ | there's a hidden one for the damage increase, I think |
22:39.58 | arkanes_ | I haven't done personal testing, though, be worth looking into |
22:41.26 | arkanes_ | Killmore: I had the marshal tucker band on my pandora and I thought I was hearing some awesome mash up with pink floyd |
22:41.41 | arkanes_ | Mother is a wierd choice for a boss kill video |
22:42.38 | steev | arkanes_: gs doesn't actually matter on that toon, i don't pug anything but the daily on her |
22:42.48 | arkanes_ | steev: I'm just teasin' |
22:42.58 | steev | s/on that toon,/-/ |
22:43.19 | steev | i wonder |
22:43.29 | arkanes_ | Gnarfoz: from the 3.1 patch notes: "Hysteria, Tricks of the Trade, Enrage, Wrecking Crew, Death Wish, Arcane Power, Owlkin Frenzy, Beast Within, and Avenging Wrath damage bonuses no longer stack together." |
22:43.36 | steev | s/i /I /,s/wonder/ Wonder/ |
22:43.48 | steev | boo, no stringing |
22:43.50 | Gnarfoz | arkanes: I see, that's too bad |
22:44.02 | Gnarfoz | steev: {}()? ^^ |
22:44.26 | Groktar | hmm, tricks is 15% damage |
22:44.57 | arkanes_ | Gnarfoz: never know if the patch notes are lies, though, test it! |
22:44.57 | Groktar | anyone know if it stacks with deathwish/hysteria/avenging wrath? |
22:44.57 | arkanes_ | Groktar: ^ |
22:45.09 | Groktar | oh, lol |
22:45.12 | Groktar | kkk |
22:45.23 | Groktar | slaps himself |
22:46.37 | arkanes_ | steev: your mainly a DPS dk, right? |
22:46.47 | steev | arkanes_: during raids? yes |
22:47.10 | arkanes_ | we have an underperforming one and I dont know the mechanics well enough to figure what she's doing wrong |
22:47.23 | arkanes_ | what spec? |
22:47.25 | steev | wrong spec, wrong gear, wrong gems |
22:47.48 | arkanes_ | she's tried both blood and DW frost, DW frost looked better but she said she prefers blood |
22:47.51 | steev | i'm unholy personally, but i'm familiar with all 3 |
22:48.04 | Fisker | hey Groktar |
22:48.06 | Fisker | i'm looking at you |
22:48.12 | steev | arkanes_: have a parse? |
22:48.15 | arkanes_ | let me get armory/world of logs, sec |
22:48.18 | steev | k |
22:48.47 | Fisker | almost Killmore |
22:48.51 | NeoTron | arkanes_: so her problem is that she's blood or frost. she needs to go unholy |
22:48.55 | NeoTron | and I'm not kidding either |
22:49.03 | NeoTron | UH is way better than the other two for dps nowadays |
22:49.07 | arkanes_ | well we'll try that too |
22:49.20 | NeoTron | maybe not the only problem but .. let me see |
22:49.39 | NeoTron | http://people.omnigroup.com/xmas/wow/Rotgut_DPS.png |
22:49.41 | steev | i'm just glad to see |
22:49.55 | NeoTron | that's 25 man but still, compare unholy, blood and frost in that chart for the basic idea |
22:50.09 | arkanes_ | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/jjhcl7xvxf8tedc8/details/6/?s=6982&e=7309 |
22:50.12 | steev | is that frost 2h or frost dw |
22:50.14 | arkanes_ | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/jjhcl7xvxf8tedc8/details/6/?s=4242&e=4569 |
22:50.30 | NeoTron | steev: it's "frost". but I think frost pretty much us DW if you want anything from it |
22:50.31 | arkanes_ | thats our 2 best blood queen attempts, one as blood and one as dw frost |
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22:50.54 | steev | arkanes_: dc? |
22:50.56 | steev | lulz |
22:51.14 | Groktar | dw frost is still pretty competitive |
22:51.19 | steev | yeah |
22:51.30 | steev | our dw frost dk went unholy the other day :( |
22:51.39 | Groktar | it's good to have one so you don't have to bring a shitty enh shaman |
22:51.47 | steev | arkanes_: wowarmory |
22:51.51 | arkanes_ | steev: she got bit last every time so thats pretty much her standard list |
22:52.09 | NeoTron | Groktar: not according to top X in WoL at least |
22:52.15 | arkanes_ | er, her standard DPS, without the artificial bite increase |
22:52.18 | NeoTron | of course most just use unholy because it's better |
22:52.26 | Groktar | well, in our raids |
22:52.30 | arkanes_ | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Livngdedgirl |
22:52.32 | Groktar | our frost dk is competitive |
22:52.37 | NeoTron | arkanes_: to give you an idea, I do more dps on my dk than that |
22:52.48 | Groktar | 9600 on saurfang this week |
22:52.49 | Groktar | heh |
22:52.56 | Groktar | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r8vfjifah9itgb2r/sum/damageDone/?s=6313&e=6513 |
22:52.58 | Groktar | fureon is frost |
22:52.59 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Morasia |
22:53.02 | NeoTron | with that gear. |
22:53.20 | Fisker | btw ckknight |
22:53.21 | NeoTron | arkanes_: do you happen to have, say, saurfang logs? |
22:53.21 | Fisker | https://us.battle.net/account/_images/game-boxes/en-GB/S2.jpg |
22:53.38 | ckknight | GIMMEH |
22:53.57 | arkanes_ | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/lf4z5bwcya9q5al2/dashboard/?s=3214&e=3464 |
22:54.36 | NeoTron | Groktar: it's all so funny - any dps dk can outdps my destro lock in just about most fights probably :P |
22:54.49 | steev | NeoTron: locks suck |
22:54.57 | NeoTron | yes, yes they do |
22:55.05 | NeoTron | at least aff and demo give something to the raid. I just suck |
22:55.24 | NeoTron | to reword it. my dps just sucks |
22:55.29 | Groktar | yeah locks are kinda sad atm |
22:55.35 | arkanes_ | I leveled a lock to 60 back in the first weeks of wow, before the very first lock talent review |
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22:55.53 | arkanes_ | and it was so traumatic that I have never played him again until the last week |
22:55.56 | NeoTron | and the sadder part is that the buffs they are coming out with buffs aff and demo more than destro and aff and demo are already ahead of destro |
22:56.04 | NeoTron | at least in theory, guess it remains to be seen in reality |
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22:56.27 | NeoTron | it's all because destro is to powerful burst dps in pvp |
22:56.35 | steev | arkanes_: in those 10 mans, are we assuming kings/might or sanc/might/drums? |
22:56.38 | NeoTron | there's no other reason. they can't like buff our spells because they are afraid of the pew pew |
22:56.42 | arkanes_ | kings/might |
22:56.44 | Groktar | two viable specs really isn't bad |
22:56.54 | arkanes_ | and its imp might |
22:57.03 | steev | ... |
22:57.15 | NeoTron | Groktar: I hate demo rotation in general and affliction sucks worse than destruction if there's more than one target |
22:57.16 | steev | her gear is better than mine |
22:57.30 | steev | well, no, shes still got a few 219s but still |
22:57.32 | Groktar | lol |
22:57.38 | arkanes_ | she's got terrible boots and a bad belt |
22:57.49 | arkanes_ | the rest is good, aside from that crummy trinket which she doesn't need as frost |
22:58.04 | steev | <Herbalism><Mining> |
22:58.10 | NeoTron | heh |
22:58.15 | arkanes_ | I'm not sure what her 2h weapon is, it's either the blade of culling or the claymore from marrowgar |
22:58.50 | steev | i'm sure she makes phat cash though |
22:58.54 | NeoTron | Groktar: I've been considering testing affliction but I never liked it in general because of all the dots |
22:59.11 | Groktar | heh, wrong class then |
22:59.15 | NeoTron | I did destro in vanilla starting in tier 5 before it was clearly superior |
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22:59.19 | NeoTron | no not at all |
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22:59.22 | arkanes_ | I'll get her to drop herbalism and get JC |
22:59.29 | NeoTron | there's a reason destruction is a spec |
22:59.32 | arkanes_ | whats good besides JC, I guess BS? |
22:59.37 | arkanes_ | thats sucky to level though :( |
22:59.53 | NeoTron | people saying "if you don't like to use 563836 dots don't play a warlock" needs LTP |
23:00.16 | NeoTron | arkanes_: well.. alchemy, engineering (most likely), LW.. they all basically have similar benefits |
23:00.31 | NeoTron | they pretty much normalized the professions |
23:00.36 | arkanes_ | I thought DKs hated haste |
23:00.41 | Groktar | you're looking at immolate, corruption, ua, and coa/cod? |
23:00.46 | steev | jc and bs are best profs for dps dks, yes |
23:00.53 | NeoTron | haunt |
23:00.57 | steev | but engineering is decent (i'm not about to level it) |
23:01.00 | Groktar | 5 dots? |
23:01.02 | NeoTron | corruption having like a 10s duration |
23:01.02 | Groktar | ok, that is gay |
23:01.05 | Groktar | lol |
23:01.08 | arkanes_ | surely jc and bs aren't going to explain 1k+ dps though |
23:01.12 | steev | someone give me 13 primordial saronite |
23:01.14 | NeoTron | so it's renewed like all the fricking time |
23:01.23 | NeoTron | which btw is the same in demo :P |
23:01.34 | NeoTron | arkanes_: skill |
23:01.38 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: yes |
23:01.40 | NeoTron | arkanes_: it's easy to fudge up dk dps |
23:01.44 | arkanes_ | NeoTron: I'm trying to figure out what she's doing wrong :\ |
23:01.48 | steev | arkanes_: really just drop herbalism and pick up jc would be fine |
23:01.59 | arkanes_ | looking at her frost log, I see 13 howling blasts and only 10 rime procs, so theres a place to start |
23:02.29 | NeoTron | trying not to get icy touch crits is a start.. :P |
23:02.40 | NeoTron | do you need her as blood or frost for raid buff reasons? |
23:02.52 | arkanes_ | no |
23:02.57 | arkanes_ | well |
23:02.58 | steev | arkanes_: have her replace her legs |
23:02.59 | NeoTron | try unholy then? :) |
23:03.00 | arkanes_ | either brings something we don't have |
23:03.13 | arkanes_ | but unholy would be fine too, we don't have the spell debufff either :P |
23:03.21 | arkanes_ | steev: really? Those looked really good to me |
23:03.24 | NeoTron | does she have t10 yet? |
23:03.29 | NeoTron | didn't check armory |
23:03.32 | arkanes_ | no |
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23:03.37 | NeoTron | 4xt9? |
23:03.44 | steev | she's got plenty of expertise |
23:03.47 | arkanes_ | she's got the shoulders and offset gloves |
23:03.48 | steev | quite plenty |
23:03.50 | NeoTron | in either case, before T10 the rotation is trivial |
23:04.09 | NeoTron | well if she doesn't have at least 2t10 she should use 4xt9 without a doubt |
23:04.50 | arkanes_ | I'll find out how many frosts she has and if she can get a second piece of t10 |
23:05.33 | steev | arkanes_: only if she can afford it would i suggest she replaces the pants come to think of it |
23:05.39 | steev | they will be *very* expensive |
23:05.55 | arkanes_ | I was thinking dropping the trinket and getting the war token |
23:05.56 | steev | but considering shes a weed picker and miner |
23:06.13 | steev | she doesn't need hit |
23:06.38 | arkanes_ | well as DW it still does something, which is more than the expertise does |
23:06.49 | arkanes_ | and of course the AP is much better |
23:06.51 | steev | as dw, you need less hit than 2h |
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23:07.48 | steev | arkanes_: the question is - is she using the trinket |
23:07.59 | arkanes_ | the on-use you mean? |
23:08.22 | arkanes_ | good question |
23:08.38 | steev | looks like she used it twice in the saurfang fight |
23:08.41 | arkanes_ | looks like she is |
23:08.54 | Gnarfoz | <Groktar> it's good to have one so you don't have to bring a shitty enh shaman <-- I'm so happy we have an awesome enh shaman :D |
23:09.50 | arkanes_ | we tend to be caster heavy so if she went unholy that'd probably be more raid benefit than the windfiry |
23:09.57 | arkanes_ | ele shaman, mage, lock |
23:10.06 | arkanes_ | vs her and a rogue for melee |
23:10.28 | arkanes_ | is there a nublets intro to unholy single target DPS anywhere? All I know about is abusing pest for meters on faction champs |
23:11.12 | NeoTron | arkanes_: so she has 40 expertise. she needs 26. that's a lot of extra itemizations |
23:11.16 | steev | it, ps, bs, ss, bs, dc, (how/dc), ss, ss, ss, dc, dc |
23:11.54 | steev | i think i added an extra ss in there |
23:12.01 | steev | but meh, overall its that |
23:12.32 | steev | unless she goes reapingless build, in which case, its it, ps, bs, ss, bs, dc, how/dc, bs, ss, bs or something |
23:12.39 | arkanes_ | shes enchanting and gemming for hit |
23:12.50 | arkanes_ | so if she got war totem, she could replace those too |
23:13.54 | Megalon | reaping only is a real dpsgain with 2t10 though |
23:14.09 | steev | i,, |
23:14.10 | steev | umm |
23:14.18 | steev | her meta isn't activated |
23:14.27 | Megalon | that's always bad :D |
23:14.30 | arkanes_ | it should be? |
23:14.41 | steev | i count 1 blue gem |
23:14.45 | steev | the one shes using requires 2 |
23:14.58 | arkanes_ | oh its 21 crit |
23:15.00 | arkanes_ | ouch |
23:15.15 | arkanes_ | oka yeah we'll fix that |
23:15.20 | arkanes_ | probably a messup from a gear swap |
23:15.23 | Megalon | she has a purple one |
23:15.26 | Megalon | and a prismatic one |
23:15.30 | Megalon | so it is activated |
23:15.38 | steev | where is the purple? |
23:15.46 | Megalon | chest? |
23:15.50 | Megalon | or am I on the wrong armory profile |
23:15.52 | steev | +20 str? |
23:15.53 | Megalon | str/sta |
23:15.55 | arkanes_ | I'm pretty sure last I checked she had a purple gem somewhere |
23:15.59 | Megalon | ok, wrong profile :D |
23:16.11 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Livngdedgirl ? |
23:16.26 | steev | str/hit is yello last i knew |
23:16.33 | arkanes_ | orange |
23:16.40 | arkanes_ | but yes, steev is correct |
23:16.45 | Megalon | well, was looking at the wrong armory |
23:16.45 | Megalon | :O |
23:17.08 | steev | either replace the meta gem, or drop a str/hit for a str/sta gem |
23:17.08 | arkanes_ | oh, it was in her 2h |
23:17.15 | arkanes_ | so she screwed it up when she went DW |
23:17.25 | arkanes_ | okay we can fix that |
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23:17.40 | Megalon | and, just use the agi/3%crit |
23:17.53 | steev | sadly, Megalon is right |
23:18.10 | steev | although i use the 21 myself |
23:18.17 | arkanes_ | I know for ret the loss from the 21 agi was less than the loss from a second blue gem back in naxx |
23:18.22 | Megalon | enhancement shamy is the only meleeclass I know off that uses the crit rating metagem |
23:18.28 | steev | i'm only 200ish dps behind the dk using shadow's edge - and i'm using Justicebringer |
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23:19.09 | steev | Megalon: as unholy, there's a point when using the 21 crit makes sense, but for the most part agi is fine |
23:19.19 | arkanes_ | even without the meta she did better as frost |
23:19.33 | arkanes_ | so I guess we should keep her as that or unholy? |
23:19.47 | steev | how much arp did she have as blood? just 30%? |
23:19.57 | arkanes_ | she had what she's wearing now |
23:20.07 | steev | i'm assuming the weapon had arp |
23:20.28 | arkanes_ | if it was the blade of culling it did |
23:20.37 | arkanes_ | she either has that or the citadel enforcers claymore, I'm not sure which |
23:20.40 | steev | your guess is much better than mine :P |
23:21.01 | arkanes_ | its the claymore |
23:21.04 | arkanes_ | so no, no arp on the weapon |
23:21.28 | steev | since the blood thread never really says at what point is decent arp to switch |
23:21.39 | steev | i don't know if ~32% is really all that good |
23:22.05 | steev | maybe if she got the trinket from saurfang in 10/25? |
23:22.25 | Primer | talk about being way over cap for exp |
23:22.47 | steev | maybe she likes to dps from the front |
23:22.52 | steev | in which case she's 16 short |
23:23.34 | Primer | last time I did that I got cleaved |
23:23.45 | steev | shoulda gemmed for dodge |
23:23.51 | arkanes_ | she was just at the cap as blood |
23:23.55 | Groktar | has been hoarding dkp for his trinket |
23:24.05 | arkanes_ | well, 30 I guess |
23:24.08 | arkanes_ | little over |
23:24.15 | Primer | my main spec is tank |
23:24.17 | Fisker | come with me Groktar |
23:24.24 | Primer | not used to going behind the boss |
23:24.38 | arkanes_ | oh hmm, armory doesnt include her racial expertise |
23:24.40 | arkanes_ | never mind |
23:24.41 | steev | Groktar: don't do it, itsatrap |
23:24.55 | arkanes_ | steev: you really think she should replace the legs before the trinket? |
23:25.09 | Primer | seems I logged in DPS gear: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Kaká |
23:25.38 | steev | arkanes_: nah |
23:25.46 | Primer | Greatness is still 3rd BiS DK DPS trinket? |
23:25.51 | steev | no |
23:25.52 | Primer | seems so many DKs still use it |
23:25.57 | arkanes_ | rawr says it is |
23:26.01 | steev | its way down at the bottom |
23:26.03 | steev | ignore rawr |
23:26.10 | arkanes_ | but yeah I never trust that thing |
23:26.14 | steev | if your guild is like ours |
23:26.21 | steev | and death's verdict doesn't like to drop |
23:26.26 | arkanes_ | not once yet! |
23:26.32 | steev | same :( |
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23:27.13 | steev | its still fine to use |
23:27.29 | steev | until you get wfs/saurafangtrink |
23:27.46 | Primer | what is wfs? |
23:28.03 | arkanes_ | whisperfang skull |
23:28.03 | steev | whispering fanged skull |
23:28.07 | arkanes_ | that doesn't drop either :( |
23:28.11 | steev | does too |
23:28.13 | steev | i has it |
23:28.16 | arkanes_ | lies |
23:28.24 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
23:28.36 | arkanes_ | I can't heeeaaar you |
23:29.17 | steev | i get almost, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLMOOOOOOOOOST 50% crit in 25s |
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23:29.26 | steev | i'm normally at like 48.95% |
23:29.56 | steev | i like that trinket just because of the animation |
23:30.38 | arkanes_ | okay so |
23:30.43 | Primer | I have that one hit trinket in my DPS set...if I didn't I'd be SOO under hit |
23:31.13 | steev | Primer: if you're alliance and you have a draenei who raids with you... you can drop to 231 hit |
23:31.15 | arkanes_ | fix the meta, drop the trinket, drop herbalism for JC |
23:31.42 | arkanes_ | I dont know if she has any banked trickets, if not get a +hit badge one and replace all the hit gems and enchant |
23:32.00 | steev | yes |
23:32.12 | Primer | steev: except I understand the DK hit cap is the spell hit cap, 286 |
23:32.18 | Primer | since IT is a spell |
23:32.55 | Primer | but yeah, we usually raid with at least 3 shams, and they're all Draenei by definition |
23:33.09 | Primer | one of our pally tanks is Draenei as well |
23:33.12 | steev | so go 263 |
23:33.22 | Primer | we usually have one in each group |
23:33.26 | steev | that will keep you at spell hit |
23:35.07 | Primer | Do you toggle "use" trinkets manually? |
23:35.12 | Primer | or do you have them macro'd? |
23:35.35 | steev | i toggle them manually on the toons i have that have use macros |
23:35.42 | Primer | it seems it'd make sense to use them on heroism, to get the full effect, but it'd suck to have to toggle them all the time |
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23:37.12 | chiper | ok, silly question I know, but bigwigs and DBM all have warnings for when Ony hit's 30%, right? |
23:37.28 | arkanes_ | chiper: you mean when she lands? Yes |
23:37.33 | chiper | ok, I thought so |
23:37.38 | arkanes_ | I think theres a blizzard raid alert, too |
23:37.57 | chiper | http://epicadvice.com/questions/4684/how-does-a-t9-hunter-survive-onyxias-landing-after-p2/ |
23:38.06 | arkanes_ | Primer: on my toons that have 2 minute cooldowns I macro them with that, otherwise I trigger them manually |
23:38.45 | arkanes_ | chiper: perhaps the answer needs to be "don't be a braindead huntard" |
23:39.05 | chiper | yeah, that's pretty much what we all said |
23:39.22 | arkanes_ | the landing itself is a threat wipe and the pickup is clunky |
23:39.33 | arkanes_ | so if he were doing his job he'd be MDing to the tank anyway |
23:39.33 | Primer | and it's 40% |
23:39.59 | arkanes_ | since between healing and dot aggro and positioning, getting under control can be messy |
23:40.26 | arkanes_ | if he somehow broke his MD button he should be feinging and not being cleaved, for a hunter of all things to ask that question is just crazy |
23:40.43 | arkanes_ | at least a warlock or something has an excuse |
23:40.45 | chiper | primer: is it 40? I couldn't remember |
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23:40.55 | chiper | I asked a friend and he couldnt remember either |
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23:41.28 | arkanes_ | I wonder if we could phase her before she takes off during p2 |
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23:41.39 | arkanes_ | and what would happen if we did |
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23:50.08 | arkanes_ | wtf, she does have the blade of culling |
23:50.12 | arkanes_ | why isn;t she using that |
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23:59.38 | steev | maybe she has it for her tank set? |