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00:02.40GnarfozKemayo: awesome
00:07.51Fiskersticks a Gnarfoz up yoshimo's rectum
00:08.04Gnarfozbetter than the other way around
00:08.27Fiskeryou sure?
00:08.41Gnarfozquite
00:09.01yoshimois it possible to have an open ticket, but without this box" you have an open ticket, waittime unknown" which pushes down the buffbars?
00:10.26Fiskeryes
00:11.00yoshimohow?
00:11.04Gnarfozuse non-standard buffframes
00:11.04Gnarfoz:p
00:11.33Fiskerhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/goldenticket.aspx
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00:17.34Gnarfoz@project golden-run
00:17.35RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-14092/. GoldenRun. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author). Updated: 482 days ago
00:17.58Arrowmasterthats a fucking oldie
00:19.08Gnarfozindeed
00:19.14Gnarfozthis isn't, tho: http://www.onfireandscreaming.com/2009/11/03/christopher-walken-performs-lady-gagas-poker-face/
00:19.50Arrowmasteri bet golden-run still works
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00:22.30GnarfozI don't even remember what it does
00:22.41Gnarfozjust that it was a clone of an even older GoldenRun mod, if I'm not mistaken
00:23.06Arrowmastercorrect
00:23.13Arrowmasterfirst one was rowne's
00:23.27Arrowmasteri doubt many people even remember that name
00:23.48Gnarfozfor shame
00:28.09Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1230 Data/Mage.lua:
00:28.11Repo- Added correct base value increases for Pyroblast, Ice Barrier, Dragon's breath and Arcane Barrage
00:29.38Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.6.2-10-g91c304b modules/party_summary.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed bug when using summary with 2 or less people
00:37.58yoshimodoes goldenticket still work?
00:38.26Arrowmasterdont even know what that is
00:41.57Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1231 DrDamage.lua: - Commented out the base value harvesting script
00:42.45Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.4_beta-1 * r1232 : Tagging as 1.7.4_beta-1
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00:51.51GagorianAny level 80 mage around now?
00:52.27Silowyiis there a viewport resizing mod still?
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01:08.16IngelaSilowyi, plenty, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/viewporter.aspx here's one
01:08.30Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1233 Data/Mage.lua: - Corrected blastwave base increase values.
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01:12.44SilowyiIngela: thanks :)
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01:23.45Repo10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v2.3.3-5-gd4429b6 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
01:23.47Repod4429b6: Handynotes updates without requiring a reloadui for import/clear.
01:23.48Repo3d65ba7: Add ability to clear all rares.
01:28.54Repo10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 04v2.3.4 * 4139904 /: [new tag] Tagging v2.3.4
01:33.33Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo 04v17 * r152 : Tagging as v17
01:40.26Shadowed@project handynotes
01:40.27RepoShadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes/. HandyNotes. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago
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01:44.34Shadowedhttp://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/p/244fa797c0bf9c08852b22f4cfd270ca/view.pic russians are evil :(
01:45.44Gagorianoh noes your pretty UI
01:49.42GagorianOh that reminds me, is there a way to make AceGUI-3.0 not cut off a bit longer strings and add "..." with AceConfig-3.0 types like 'multiselect'
01:50.03ShadowedAceGUI, or AceConfig?
01:50.31Shadowedfor AceConfig, beyond making the entire widget longer, you can't control the cut off
01:50.40Shadowedyou might be able to with AceGUI, but I haven't played with it too much
01:50.40GagorianWell AceConfig options fed to AceGUI through AceConfigDialog
01:50.53ShadowedYea, but there's a bit of difference in what you can access with AceConfig :P
01:51.06GagorianYeah, I haven't played around with AceGUI directly
01:51.20GagorianAnd I don't want to that much either
01:51.56ShadowedYou have to make the entire widget bigger pretty much
01:55.37Gagorianwidth = 'double' does fix it but it also makes it take a lot more space
01:55.52Gagorianconsidering it's like just a tiny bit that's cut off
01:55.53Gagorian:C
01:56.01ShadowedWould be nice to have finer control of the widths but, I think they want to keep it simple
01:57.21GagorianMyeah
01:57.39GagorianBut all the cut of strings look really retarded
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01:58.01Gagorianthe ... almost takes as much room as it would to finish the string :p
01:58.44Shadowednevcairiel ignored me when I suggested it!
01:59.17GagorianDamn nevcairiel!!
01:59.37GagorianLike for example I have a string of "Default actionbar support" it's cut off as "Default actionbar supp..."
01:59.41Gagorianexactly the same length!
01:59.45GagorianJUST CUT OFF
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02:03.37Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1234 / (2 files in 2 directories):
02:03.39Repo- Set the actionbar and calculation multiselect boxes to full width to prevent text from being cut off.
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02:06.53GagorianMaking the options is the most painful part about making DrDamage
02:07.13eblumeckknight, sorry to ping you, but could you approve my addon "MyRole"?
02:07.19GagorianEveryone wants to customize everything.. and then you need to do it so it doesn't look like shit, plus is understandable by most users.
02:07.32Shadowedafter having done SUF options, everything else seems like a breeze :<
02:07.42eblumeGagorian - yeah, I'm getting to that phase for one of my addons too. it's a huge headache.
02:07.45GagorianAnd then localized in all languages, whenever you think of a smarter way of doing something you need to redo all the localization strings
02:07.48Shadowedonly thing I can tell you is, don't shunt everything into a single group
02:07.54WobWorkGagorian: that's why I've been procrastinating on MrPlow's ui =
02:07.56Shadowedlocalization is easy
02:07.56WobWorkP
02:08.03Shadowedhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/localescrapper/
02:08.11Shadowedit's what I'm using for EG/SUF
02:08.38GagorianDoes it remove unused strings plus add new ones?
02:09.01Shadowedyes
02:09.08Shadowedby default it deletes unimported strings
02:09.30ShadowedMight want to turn that of the first time to make sure nothing goes horribly wrong, but it makes life a lot easier
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02:09.49GagorianThat's actually the thing that's making it most painful, deleting all the old shit
02:10.11GagorianSince the website is a bit slow to use for that
02:10.16ShadowedYou do know you can just import an entire file and have it delete unimported right?
02:10.40GagorianYes, but I've also been wary of not messing it all up
02:10.44GagorianAt some point it bugged though
02:10.57GagorianDidn't import my locales properly, but that was like months ago
02:11.04Shadowedwell
02:11.19ShadowedI've not had issues with this, but if you think it'll delete everything horribly you could always just turn that part off :p
02:11.53GagorianYeah, but that's exactly what I would want it for so I'll try the next time I need to localize stuff
02:12.06GagorianI can always blame you when it explodes
02:12.11GagorianPlus cry to ckknight for a restore?
02:13.55ShadowedIt's pretty straightforward, so it's kind of hard to mess up
02:13.59Shadowedsince it'll not upload if it finds no keys
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02:14.43GagorianBut yeah, sounds like something that'll make life a bit easier
02:15.00GagorianI just redid most of the options, could've used it yesterday!
02:15.01Gagorian:D
02:17.13GagorianMy options were rather horrible since they were converted from Ace2 + Dewdrop
02:17.26GagorianNot that they're perfect now but alot better
02:20.51GagorianShadowed: P.S. I checked all Priest spells for downranking, feel free to steal them when/if you decide to implement it
02:21.26ShadowedGagorian:  thanks will do
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02:55.40Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1235 DrDamage.lua:
02:55.42Repo- Fixed Gift of the Naaru calculation, that I accidentally broke a few commits ago
02:56.14GagorianBah couldn't sleep when I realized I had broke it
02:56.15Gagorian:D
02:56.19Gagoriannow back ->
02:58.23Groktardrofl blood queen is ez
02:58.27Groktardtwo tries
03:12.42Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.7-beta-4-g8bc2dc7 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits]
03:12.44Repo8bc2dc7: fix nil check on a match() call
03:12.45Repo95e851d: implement a proper UserFacing print method & functions
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03:14.18Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-12-g54b7bc8 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
03:14.20Repo54b7bc8: Added hide in any raid/hide in 6-man raid to faq
03:14.21Repo9bb995b: Fixed separated raid frames colliding when growing groups down and the column they are anchored to has <5 players in it
03:23.22Groktardamd then we one shot put
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03:27.41Repo10myrole: 03eblume * r3 MyRole.lua: Prep for 1.0
03:38.20Groktardmakes fraps
03:46.38Mikk@describe myrole
03:46.39RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/myrole/. MyRole. Simple Data Broker object showing your currently assigned role.
03:46.49eblumeYou like it that much, huh, Groktard?
03:46.59eblumeit's like a 20-line addon
03:47.07eblumeI can see why it would get you excited. ;)
03:47.13eblumeOH, fraps
03:47.17eblumeI read... something else.
03:47.39eblumeclears his throat.
03:48.53Mikk2 digit line count is enough to make several of us fap
03:49.29eblumelol
03:49.54Mikknow
03:50.01Mikkis it addonloader:ed? =)
03:50.09eblumeI'm not familiar
03:50.16eblumeSo I guess not?
03:50.21eblumeeducate me
03:50.22Mikkfail!
03:50.26Mikkrefuses fappage
03:50.35Mikk@describe addonloader
03:50.36RepoMikk: No project found that matches 'addonloader'
03:50.40Mikk@describe addon-loader
03:50.40RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/addon-loader/. AddonLoader. Loadmanager for AddOns
03:50.43Mikkdoh
03:50.54Mikkbasically, (optional!) load-on-demand for addons
03:51.00Mikkor at the very least delayed load on startup
03:51.06Mikkleading to shorter loading screens
03:51.12Mikksomething which those of us with alts appreciate hugely
03:51.32Mikkin its most basic form, it's just 2 lines in the .toc
03:51.55eblumeI'm not sure it would help for this addon at all... the only thing it does is register two libraries and four events
03:52.01eblumecan't take much time at all
03:52.52eblumeI'll give it a shot though!
03:53.10Mikk## LoadManagers: AddonLoader
03:53.21Mikk## X-LoadOn-Group: true
03:53.28Mikkthere. now it doesnt even load until you're in a group
03:53.37Mikkwhich is good since it's 100% unneeded before
03:54.03Mikkand you're right that each individual addon doesn't take much time to load
03:54.05Mikkmaybe 0.1 seconds
03:54.08Mikkbut when you have a hundred of em
03:54.09Mikk...
03:54.21eblumeI'm not sure that's true... I know that as a user I'd be confused if Bazooka wasn't even showing the LDB plugin when I first logged in
03:54.54Mikkwell if people run AddonLoader
03:55.00Mikkthey probably know what to expect
03:55.20eblumeAh, so it'll only behave like that if AddonLoader is on, makes sense. Ok, yeah, I'll make that change. Thanks Mikk!
03:55.20Mikklike mail addons loading when you touch the mailbox
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03:58.13Groktardcommands it to upload faster
03:59.18Groktarblames Mikk
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03:59.54eblumelol
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04:39.55TorhalShadowed: In Soviet Russia, fonts control...eh, nevermind.
04:48.36Groktarheh
04:48.54Groktari took out the part where i went afk for 15 seconds to stop my cats from fighting
04:48.58Groktarcan totally see where it was
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05:06.47Repo10myrole: 03eblume * r4 MyRole.toc: AddonLoader support
05:07.02eblumethere ya go, Mikk
05:13.06Groktartastes eblume
05:21.58digmousedamn my beql keeps showing a debug frame
05:23.47orionshockok, so there is a "Broker_LDF" already up on wowace.. would it be bad to upload and name my own version called "Broken_LFD" ? or should i get a new name for it?
05:24.10WobWorkLooking Dungeon Finder?
05:24.57pompy@project Broker_LFD
05:24.58Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_lfd/. Broker_LFD. Game: WoW. ulic (Manager/Author). Updated: 18 days ago. Tickets: 2/7
05:25.01pompy...
05:25.12RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/polmonitor/. Polmonitor. Gaff3 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
05:25.39RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/myrole/. MyRole. eblume (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
05:25.48RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/epgpreserves/. EPGPreserves. felsir (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
05:26.06eblumeThanks Torhal!
05:26.15eblumeGroktar - oh my
05:26.30Groktar:p
05:26.36Repo10myrole: 03eblume 041.0 * r5 : Tagging as 1.0
05:26.43eblume;)
05:26.54pompy@describe myrole
05:26.54Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/myrole/. MyRole. Simple Data Broker object showing your currently assigned role.
05:28.17eblume@describe broker_lfd
05:28.18Repoeblume: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_lfd/. Broker_LFD. LFD status via a DataBroker display rather than the minimap.
05:30.20eblumecool addon, pompy, I'm gonna add it to my set
05:31.16pompyyeah it's cool, thank ulic for it
05:34.08eblumethanks ulic
05:34.48KemayoGagorian: I started getting "DrDamage.lua:457: attempt to index field 'Font' (a nil value)" earlier today...
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07:47.31Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fog4NbiNAc4
07:47.32Groktar:D
07:47.58SilowyiIn my continual battle with UI issues and WoW I've made a rather important discovery. There seems to be a point when adding addons where I hit a "threshold" of, I guess, CPU capability, beyond which my raid FPS goes from about 40 or so to maybe 4. It doesn't seem to be any specific addon, just when I get a decent number of them.
07:48.12Silowyiof course never mind the fact that none of this happened before Blizzard screwed the pooch with patch 3.1...
07:48.19Silowyierr... 3.2 rather
07:48.41Silowyiand that I've since upgraded every single part of my computer and even upgraded my internet service to try and fix it :P
07:49.39SilowyiGroktar: that fight is annoying...
07:50.20SilowyiGroktar: Because I rather feel like the first days of learning Gruul, where we do everything right, no one messes up on vampire bites, no one gets MCed, etc... and then Lana'thel goes up in the air, and 15 people die from not spreading out :P
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07:51.11Groktarthat's fail Silowyi
07:51.11SilowyiWe'll get her to 60% before the first phase 2, and then half the raid dies :P
07:51.12Groktar:(
07:51.36Groktarthat was only our second try
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07:51.41SilowyiWith 4 rogues, 3 DKs, and 3 Hunters our DPS on that fight is stupid high XD
07:51.53Groktari beat a couple of the dks
07:51.59Groktaror maybe
07:52.00Groktaridk
07:52.03Groktari got the bite last
07:52.21SilowyiGroktar: It's sort of a problem of having about 15 good raiders, 5 mediocre raiders, and 5 people that the GM doesn't want to kick for sentimental reasons... imo :P
07:52.45Silowyigetting the bite last would not help your dps...
07:52.51Silowyigetting it first would :)
07:52.57Groktaryeah
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07:53.28Groktari didn't even notice the 15 seconds i cut out where i was afk
07:53.29SilowyiBut our entire server fails... no one has kille dPutricide or Lana'thel on 25 man yet as of tonight...
07:53.36Groktar:(
07:53.45Groktarimo, lana'thel is so much easier than putricide
07:53.49Groktarbut we one shot him, too
07:54.09Silowyioh I take that back, looks like someone got Putricide
07:54.46Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs67hiz5tZ4
07:54.50SilowyiSeriously how do guilds one-shot things like that? Even when I was in Prodigy which was #1 guild on Dalvengyr, we didn't one shot stuff... granted that was back in Naxx 60 days
07:55.24SilowyiOr do you mean you one-shot it on live after testing it on the PTR? ^_^
07:55.41Groktarwe killed it on 3 different 10 mans this week
07:55.47Silowyithat would help
07:55.47Groktarand we had a good bite strat
07:55.59Groktarso basically we had two melee groups and two caster groups
07:56.16Groktarin each of those groups we had a priority dps to get the bite
07:56.31Groktarif you got the first bite as a range, then you go get the highest priority melee
07:56.36Groktarand vice versa
07:56.52Groktarsecond bite you the highest priority dps in the other group of the same kind of dps
07:57.00Silowyiah I see
07:57.02Groktarso if you're a mage you get the priority dps in the other ranged group
07:57.07Groktarand then you bite within groups
07:57.10Silowyiso you have it spreading more or less evenly among ranged and melee
07:57.13Groktarya
07:57.28SilowyiNot sure that would work for us, except for the hunters, our melee stomps our ranged in every single fight
07:58.09Groktarhow many fights are there where the ranged get to stand still and pew pew single target tho?
07:58.11Silowyiit's usually our two best rouges, A hunter, the DKs, the other rogues, the Ret Paladins, the other hunters, enh shaman, fury warrior, the ranged
07:58.36SilowyiGroktar: this is a pattern that persisted clear back to Naxx ^_^
07:58.47SilowyiOccasionally we have a warlock do some break out DPS
07:59.10Silowyishrugs
07:59.21SilowyiStill that's not a bad idea
07:59.24SilowyiI like the four groups
08:00.06SilowyiThough if people can figure out how to not fail at the extremely simple phase 2 mechanic, we will get a kill.
08:00.15Groktarhehe
08:00.35SilowyiThe only time I died on phase 2 so far was when someone ran over and bit me while she was whirlwinding *rolls eyes*
08:00.36Groktarone melee group spreads out on the left, one spreads on the right
08:00.40Silowyiyeah cause that's a great idea ain't it?
08:00.43Groktarone caster group goes left and the other goes right
08:00.47Groktarand healers kinda go in the middle
08:01.04Silowyiduring phase 2?
08:01.09Groktaryeah
08:01.20SilowyiDo you have 5 tremor totems? Or just deal with the fear.
08:01.31Groktarwe had 1 tremor
08:02.05orionshockShadowed, u still awake?
08:02.13SilowyiI like the idea of assigning positions, but you have no idea how many teeth I had to pull to convince our raid leader to position blood princes so that the melee had room to spread out.
08:02.22Silowyionce we did, we killed them the next pull
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08:02.42Groktarwe just tanked him about where he stands
08:02.42Silowyi(This is also a pattern that has repeated itself since Naxx... ignore Silowyi for 20 wipes, listen to Silowyi, kill boss :P)
08:02.49Groktarone melee group goes back and to the left
08:02.52Groktarother goes back and to the right
08:02.53Silowyiyeah Groktar, that's what I wanted to do
08:02.54Groktarezpz
08:03.09Silowyibut our MT had "seen a video" where Valanar was tanked against the right wall by the entrance...
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08:03.35SilowyiGroktar: you just said EXACTLY what I told him.
08:03.39Silowyibut our MT had "seen a video" where Valanar was tanked against the right wall by the entrance...
08:04.17Silowyiit was amazing, I think we managed to empowered shockwave 20 people on our first pull.
08:04.48Silowyithe only ones that lived were the Keleseth tank, his healer, and the two ranged we had bouncing bombs
08:05.17Silowyiwhines a bit much about her guild maybe
08:08.02Groktar<3 his vent audio in videos
08:08.23TorhalMethinks Repo is dead!
08:09.16Groktarperforms a series of lewd acts on the slumbering Repo
08:09.43TorhalI pushed a Spamalyzer update and he failed to report it. The packager behaved, though.
08:10.12Torhaltwitches.
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08:11.20Repo10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta1-10-g257ce4c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated)
08:11.22Repo257ce4c: Added new localizations and removed those which are un-used.
08:11.23Repoc7d21b2: Re-worked coloring for ChatFrame output - if the prefix is unknown, display "Unknown" in red, else display the AddOn name in green.
08:11.24Repo67929f8: In StoreMessage(): If we're not tracking a certain type of AddOn message, don't collect data for it.
08:11.25Repo1da24ab: Some optimization.
08:11.25TorhalWOOR!
08:14.37Groktarpounces
08:19.11Groktargets bite first
08:19.15Groktarbites a healer
08:19.31Silowyilol
08:19.42Silowyibad Groktar
08:20.04Groktargets the legion flame type debuff and stands on Silowyi
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08:22.40Silowyimoves
08:22.43Silowyi:P
08:22.53Silowyimoved way too slow though and is probably getting battle-rezzed right now
08:24.03Groktarwatches the druid res Silowyi during the air phase while standing on two other healers
08:25.17SilowyiOh, you were at our raid today then Groktar?
08:25.28Groktarlol
08:27.55SilowyiI wish I was still raiding on Silowyi
08:27.58SilowyiI liked my druid
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08:34.01sztanpet@describe spamalyzer
08:34.03Reposztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/. Spamalyzer. Tracks SendAddonMessage Spam
08:34.54Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r326 / (3 files in 2 directories): Yet Another GridRange Update.
08:34.57RepoThis one includes some debug output. I hope it will help identify the root cause of the bug.
08:35.06yoshimoyou can call it the broker compatible successor to addonspamfu sztanpet
08:36.26Silowyiok yeah Groktar, we're stealing your positioning next week
08:36.31Torhalyoshimo: I added new goodies to the latest alpha
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08:38.49Groktar:p
08:39.04Groktara warlock from our guild logged on just now
08:39.32Groktarand to mess with him i started going on about how he was standing in the fire in the middle of the raid
08:39.39Groktarand it turned out that he actually did that
08:39.44Groktarwas just talking smack
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08:55.26yoshimohow many people need to vote for an addon on curse.com to see an average rating?
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08:57.52Arrowmasteri think those are the kinda things nobody knows anymore, its probably hidden somewhere in some backend code from long ago that nobody wants to look at to find out the answer
08:58.23TorhalArrowmaster: With the state of Curse's web page, that code probably resides on a punch card.
08:58.32Mikksnorks
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09:05.10yoshimolooks like the code behind curse is an ugly duck
09:07.03asmodaiHow so?
09:07.54yoshimolook at arrowmasters comment ^^
09:08.23asmodaiWell, you can start displaying a rating from the first vote you get.
09:17.19olafski*cough* logging in doesn't work properly in firefox but it works in IE
09:17.40olafskimaybe it's some addon I'm running in FF though
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09:18.37Arrowmasterolafski: clear all your cookies for wowace and curse
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09:18.55olafskiyikes.. never done that, where does firefox store cookies? :$
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09:19.21Megalonprofiles directory i'd think
09:19.27Arrowmasterno
09:19.33Arrowmasterright click the page and goto page info
09:19.36Arrowmasterclick security tab
09:19.40Arrowmasterclick view cookies
09:20.22Arrowmasterfirefox isnt like IE, it has absolutely no reason to waste 4KB of your harddrive space per cookie
09:20.40olafskiright, very nice.. removed them all
09:20.55Arrowmastermake sure you got both wowace and curse
09:21.11olafskizomg, you rock arrowmaster
09:21.30olafskiI've asked this at least 5 times before in #curseforge and the only reply I got was from someone who had the same issue and had some kind of workaround :)
09:23.17olafskiI nearly got a local highscore for the first level in Rez btw ;p
09:23.43olafskiwhen I tried score attack for the second level I just died though.. are the score attack levels different from the normal playthrough somehow?
09:23.52Arrowmasterfirst level is the one that shows up on your friends leaderboard in the dashboard too
09:24.05Arrowmasteryeah scoreattack is different
09:24.21olafskithat explains :) I got a whole lot more projectiles coming at me there
09:24.41olafskimaybe I should focus on finishing the game first
09:24.48Arrowmasteryeah do that
09:25.56Arrowmasterand remember you need to get 100% analysis for each level 1-4 to unlock level 5
09:32.47olafskijebus so that's why I didn't get it :P
09:32.58olafskiwhat do I do for analysis again? is that getting all the "upgrades"?
09:33.43Arrowmasterno its the white blocks you have to hit 8 times each
09:34.56olafskihm
09:35.06olafskiI thought you couldn't continue to the next layer without hitting those
09:35.23Arrowmasterno you can miss them
09:36.58olafskialright :P I can't be too far off though
09:39.59olafskiah, the levels that I did finish, I got 100% analyzation on
09:40.06olafskiguess I never did beat the 4th boss then
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09:42.13asmodaiwith regard to the PS3: 3 years, 2 months, 11 days...thats a pretty secure system
09:42.24asmodaiThat's indeed quite strong against hacking :)
09:42.35Arrowmaster?
09:42.37Repo10querier: 03pompachomp 07master * v1.82-1-gd16c18d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Some cleanup here and there to the .toc and main file.
09:42.49winkillerasmodai: hm?
09:44.02olafskican't play burned games on a ps3, I guess from that
09:44.20olafskiarrowmaster: "To enter a new layer level,
09:44.20olafskifirst destroy the password protector, then shoot the network opening 8 times.
09:44.21olafski(Or fully lock on for a MAX shot)."
09:44.30olafskifrom some FAQ.. that seems to contradict what you said :<
09:46.50Arrowmasterif you dont shoot it it will go past you
09:47.42Arrowmasterthe 'layer level' that shows up on the screen is just a counter, if you miss number 3, number 4 will say its number 3 and so on
09:51.29Fiskerslaps olafski around a bit with a large trout
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09:54.59Megalonwinkiller: http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/01/hello-hypervisor-im-geohot.html
09:55.49Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
09:55.55Fiskerwhy so old Megalon?
09:56.31Megalonask winkiller why he didn't know by now
09:57.11winkillerweren't they running Linux on it for a few months already?
09:57.18winkilleror doesn't that count as hacked?
09:57.28Fiskerthat's officially supported durr
09:57.48winkillersee, my consoles are calles SNES and GameBoy Advanced :)
09:57.59winkillernot following this trend for 10 years
09:58.20Fiskeri've never had a console
09:59.21MegalonFisker, walking gap of education
09:59.35Fiskerwhy so srs Megalon?
09:59.41winkillerwell, je just knew more than me :(
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10:01.43yoshimokernelpatches and driver support for ps3 is worked on by geoff lavand, and employee of the ps3 company ;) although hypervisor still blocks access to  a few things. I dont think the motivation for breaking it, is very high, because linux works^^
10:05.05asmodaiMegalon: rofl
10:08.49Grumnot yet!
10:08.59Grumamagawd scrolled-up-error
10:09.10Fiskerslaps Grum around a bit with a large trout
10:09.18Arrowmasterps3 no longer supports linux though, they dropped it with the slim
10:09.47Fiskerstill works on the other models though?
10:11.23Arrowmasteryeah
10:12.35olafskicloud gaming is the future!
10:13.45Arrowmasterbut they are using the excuse that to 'cut down on costs' for the slim version they didnt update the hypervisor stuff to support linux on the new hardware so i highly doubt they will lift a finger if they somehow end up accidentally breaking it on the older consoles
10:13.53Arrowmasteralthought they claim otherwise
10:14.29Grumwhat sells better atm? 360 or ps3?
10:14.32Arrowmasterbut really we all know it was just because they dont want people purchasing the cheaper slims that have no intention of ever buying a game
10:15.12Grumhmm apparently about equal
10:16.02Grumi wonder how it is with games per console
10:16.28asmodaiGrum: ps3
10:16.35olafskigiven that you apparently can't pirate ps3 games but you can with 360.. :)
10:16.46asmodaiThey've seen quite a boost in sales with the ps3 since the Slim came out.
10:17.15olafskijust watched a movie of Eden on youtube arrowmaster.. looks awesome :)
10:17.24Arrowmasterps3 still has inferior software though
10:17.35Grummm it has?
10:17.41Arrowmasterimho it is
10:17.50Grumdid they already have any game fully abusing the power of the ps3?
10:17.50Arrowmasteri hate the XMB
10:18.19Arrowmasterand online multiplayer is a fucking disaster
10:18.31Grumthey did that really well on the 360
10:18.40Arrowmasteryes they did
10:18.43Grumwhich is also probably a big reason people sitll buy games for the 360
10:18.55Grumas copied games get you banned with the next ban-wave :)
10:18.59FiskerGrum Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2
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10:19.14GrumFisker is making no sense!
10:19.18Arrowmasteryou know something is wrong though when a person has to use 3 different passwords just to be able to get to online multiplayer for a game
10:19.28Fiskerbesides "fully abusing the power of the PS3" only supports his claim that the software is inferior
10:19.50Grumi know, i was just curious if there were any
10:20.00Grumafaik they already maxed out on the abuse of the 360
10:20.07FiskerGrum because Uncharted 1 was using the full potential of the PS3, and uncharted 2 somehow used it even more
10:20.11Grumand i was wondering if there were any clear difference between games
10:20.15Arrowmaster360 has been maxed for a long time
10:20.33Grumyeah mostly because it was a simple system to dev for
10:20.36Grumits a pc O.o
10:20.47Arrowmasternot quite
10:21.04Arrowmasterits a multi processor powerpc box
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10:21.14Arrowmasternot x86
10:21.45FiskerGrum yeah that's because Microsoft actually spent time making the developement process easier
10:21.51Fiskerwhereas Sony is just like "lol guys l2p"
10:21.56olafski:D
10:22.08Grumah well, it works good enough
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10:22.29Grumi hope the ps3 gets cracked open, i might actually buy it :)
10:22.48Grumi refuse to buy any system for which i cant download the games, its just ... too stupidly expensive
10:22.56Arrowmasterhow long is the ps3 warranty?
10:23.39Arrowmasteri already know i can do a simple hardware mod to mine and be able to play ps2 'backups' on it
10:23.40Fiskerthe only thing i want the PS3 for is those games from that company with the rescuing people and fluid shit and stuff
10:23.42Fiskerlooks funny
10:24.00KriLL3Arrowmaster: does it need one? I thought if you dropped it you dented the floor, not the console
10:24.04olafskisony gives you a fully working 3d engine with a devkit though
10:26.14asmodai<< Grum>> Fisker is making no sense! <-- That's normal, why are you surprised?
10:26.29KriLL3olafski: isn't the PS3 notoriously difficult to code for?
10:26.41asmodaiGrum: And btw, I download games as well for my PS3 aside from buying 'hard' copies.
10:26.57Grumasmodai: why? you cant play them?
10:26.57asmodaiKriLL3: That's just FUD. It requires some getting used to, but it's very flexible in what you can do with it.
10:27.07yoshimoits not important that the security is flawless for a video game console, its important that is takes long enough to break so they can sell the games until security is broken
10:27.08asmodaiGrum: I can.
10:27.21Grumasmodai: burned games? O.o
10:27.21KriLL3then why were first party titles long in coming and most third party titles crap?
10:27.26asmodaiGrum: Flower, Fat Princess, Harvest Moon are only available through download.
10:27.31asmodaiGrum: Pfft, don't do illegal games.
10:27.35Grum....
10:27.51asmodaisupports studious working on decent games.
10:27.53Grumlegal games are a waste of money :(
10:27.56Grumyeah lol
10:27.58asmodais/studious/studios/
10:28.01Grumthe one odd game might be worth it
10:28.17olafskikrill3: I have no idea.. but it's not that bad as many wannabe-developers will try to make you believe
10:28.50orionshockgrrr, unfking my battlenet account is a pain
10:28.59Fiskerhttp://www.gametrailers.com/video/launch-trailer-pixeljunk-shooter/60068 <-i want this gaem
10:29.20asmodaiGrum: They ain't a waste of money, there's quite a lot of good, decent games.
10:29.25olafskipaying for games is the only way tbh
10:29.32Arrowmasterill just point to all the crappy ps3 ports of games that work fine on the 360
10:29.33Grumits not apparently ;P
10:29.41Grumas long as there are enough asmodais :P
10:29.56asmodaiolafski: Agreed.
10:29.59olafskian asmodai is someone who pays for games?
10:30.02olafskithen I'm an asmodai!
10:30.12olafskibought about 60 games since I got my 360 1.5 years ago :D
10:30.13asmodaiolafski: Good studios need to get their cash.
10:30.27KriLL3I usually pay for games, but sadly a lot of recent titles don't have a demo version, or it comes out much later
10:30.38KriLL3I believe in try before you buy
10:30.42asmodaiHence I am happy with digital distribution model to be able to support indie studios.
10:30.46asmodaiKriLL3: Fair enough point.
10:30.49olafskiI do try to get my games cheaper though.. I rarely buy a game for the full 55-60 euro
10:31.13Arrowmasterive got a 7 year XBL account and i dont even think i own 60 games....
10:31.16olafskioh yeah I love digital distribution.. shame that my 360 is kind of limited in its hard drive capacity
10:31.22KriLL3asmodai: problem with digital distrobution atm is that it costs more than going to the store, and the download service takes a sizeable chunk
10:31.42olafskiwell that sure isn't with all digital distribution
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10:32.03Grumolafski: you also play those games online?
10:32.03asmodaiKriLL3: Not for me with some games at least.
10:32.08[SW]Dodgewhat is min lvl to enter toc(5nh)?
10:32.11KriLL3univerally more expensive
10:32.15olafskigrum: no
10:32.18KriLL3[SW]Dodge: wha?
10:32.25[SW]Dodgetrial of champion
10:32.26[SW]Dodge:D
10:32.29Grumolafski: so you spend ~3000 on games orso? :D
10:32.30KriLL3got that part
10:32.31[SW]Dodgeminimum lvl :D
10:32.32KriLL3what's after it?
10:32.41olafskigrum: more like about 1500 I think
10:32.42olafskibut yeah
10:32.50[SW]Dodge5 player non hero?^^
10:32.55olafski78 I think [sw]dodge
10:32.58Grumthink of all the booze you could have gotten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:33.01[SW]Dodgehm, okay
10:33.05olafskioh I really care grum
10:33.05[SW]Dodge1lvl to go :D
10:33.08Grumor you could have hired 160 hitman to kill fisker
10:33.09olafskiI have more than enough booze
10:33.12[SW]Dodgethanks :p
10:33.15KriLL3olafski: don't think so, my 79 doesn't have it in the list
10:33.23asmodaiI've been happy to have been able to buy games like Fat Princess, Flower, Torchlight, World of Goo and such games.
10:33.39olafskikrill3: well, I've been in totc5 with people of lvl 78 plenty of times :)
10:33.46olafskimaybe you can't queue for it though
10:33.47Grumoh yeah some i buy as well, some are just worth it
10:33.52GrumWorld of Goo for example :)
10:33.58Grumsimply amazing
10:33.59olafskifat princess seems fun
10:34.05Arrowmasterasmodai: but did you purchase the linux version of world of goo?
10:34.13KriLL3I bought the PC version
10:34.28Arrowmasteri bought the linux/windows version
10:34.45asmodaiArrowmaster: No, I don't use Linux. *pat pat FreeBSD*
10:34.47KriLL3can't imagine playing that without a mouse
10:34.53asmodaiI use either Windows or PS3 for gaming.
10:35.04KriLL3consoles are pointless objects in my world
10:35.05asmodaiolafski: It rocks! :)
10:35.15olafskiasmodai: kay :P if I ever get a ps3 I'll surely get that
10:35.19olafskibut for now my 360 will suffice
10:35.22Arrowmasterasmodai: might work on freebsd too
10:35.23KriLL3PCs are much better for gaming
10:35.29olafskioh let's not get into that again
10:35.45olafskiboring argument
10:35.56ArrowmasterPCs are better but have been turned into a 2nd class citizen by the studios
10:36.08olafskiactually I've played a couple of my games online.. maybe 10 of them
10:36.38KriLL3olafski: not many arguments you can use vs triple screen gaming at much higher resolutions, texture quality and effects
10:36.48olafskigo away krill3, seriously :P
10:37.01olafskiif you meant that, I'm going to have trouble taking you seriously from now on :(
10:37.09olafskiand it seems xbox.com thinks I have 50 games.. a couple of them aren't on my profile though
10:37.13asmodaiBoth platforms have their pros and cons.
10:37.21KriLL3what are the pros of consoles?
10:37.44olafskipsst platformwars are gay
10:38.11asmodaiEasy of use/access to be fair. No bullshitting with drivers or bsods.
10:38.55KriLL3windows is easier to use than it's ever been, and if you need a computer anyway for other stuff (and most people do) it's no added discomfort
10:39.58asmodaiSure, it's become easier, but from a UX standpoint a console is still ahead of it.
10:40.19KriLL3because consoles don't do as many things
10:40.40asmodaiRight, which is both a strength and weakness.
10:40.42asmodaishrugs
10:40.48olafskigiggles
10:40.56asmodaiSeriously, I've given up on the ultimate solution years ago.
10:41.03asmodaiSame for OSes, shells, programming languages
10:41.22asmodaiThere's no silver bullet and if you believe that, well, must be nice to have a one dimensional world view. :)
10:41.51kandarzI failed to get "No one left behind" in Mass Effect 2, not sure how to change my choices so everyone lives
10:41.53KriLL3well I'm a more serious gamer and I enjoy mostly games that need mouse input to work right
10:42.01asmodaikandarz: hush
10:42.06asmodaikandarz: The game's not out yet
10:42.10KriLL3kandarz: what achivement is that?
10:42.24KriLL3is that in the start?
10:42.30Fiskerkandarz i don't think choices had anything to do with it
10:42.32kandarzNo one dies in the finalie
10:42.36KriLL3ah
10:42.37asmodaiKriLL3: To each his own, of course, that's the beauty of personal preferences.
10:42.48KriLL3think they all have to be loyal, and you need to upgrade your ship fully
10:42.50kandarzFisker, did you finish it?
10:42.53Fiskeryes
10:42.57kandarzdid you get it?
10:42.59Fiskerand as KriLL3 says i think that's it
10:42.59Fiskerno
10:43.00olafskikrill3: you also think tanks need to be the absolute rulers of pugs :P
10:43.08FiskerI had all ship upgrades, and were loyal with everyone but Jack
10:43.10Fiskerguess who died
10:43.20KriLL3olafski: well we were at one point
10:43.20kandarzI had all ship upgrades, everyone was loyal
10:43.30Fiskeri disagree!
10:43.33asmodaiGot to love spoilers.
10:43.38olafskikrill3: yep you still think that.. even though everybody disagreed :)
10:43.49KriLL3asmodai: well can't really spoil a multi ending game
10:43.56olafskigot to love pirates
10:44.06asmodaiCan spoil at least part of it >_<
10:44.09kandarzhey, I'm buying it, I swear
10:44.37FiskerKriLL3 the whole story of the game is that it's a suicide mission and you won't survive
10:44.38kandarzAnyway, I couldn't get any romance going, I thought you could cheat if you imported a ME1 character
10:44.47Fiskercan't say there's much spoilers in that
10:44.48KriLL3asmodai: imo they didn't go a good job at suspense in ME2, the mystery of who it was that raided settlements should have been kept longer
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10:45.05Fiskeri'm annoyed that the UI is still shit
10:45.13kandarzhow so?
10:45.14RepoUpdate Aggro indicator so that it only triggers on "real" aggro.
10:45.16RepoHackish
10:45.28KriLL3yeah the UI isn't very good, but it's better, though all the codex/journal keybinds vanished
10:45.29kandarzI didn't find it all that bad
10:45.36Fiskerit's not better KriLL3
10:45.40KriLL3prefer the new inventory system though, less hassle
10:45.46Fiskerthey just removed a lot of stuff
10:45.57KriLL3well micro managing your entire group was lame
10:46.00FiskerThere basically is no inventory, that's the point
10:46.24Fiskeryou have the choice between like 4-5 different weapon types, and in there there's 2-4 different choices depending on your research
10:46.33KriLL3but yes it does feel like a cop-out
10:46.49KriLL3"can't get this part good" "remove it"
10:47.01FiskerThe point just is that the UI itself haven't really changed
10:47.10Fiskerthey've just removed so many UI elements that it's not frustrating anymore
10:47.24KriLL3true, and it does feel very consoleish, can't click some elements, feels better to just use arrows + enter
10:47.34Fiskeryeah
10:47.42KriLL3the hacking part especially
10:47.46kandarzFisker, did you notice Michael Dorn's voice?
10:47.51FiskerFor example in the options you can use the mouse to select it, but you need to use the keyboard to change the setting
10:47.52Fiskeri lol'd
10:48.19Fiskernope kandarz
10:48.36KriLL3not a fan of thermal clips either, I run out way too much and need to switch weapon
10:48.46KriLL3wish they would at least cool slowly on their own
10:48.56kandarzI'm fairly certain he was on Turchunka as a Krogan
10:49.06kandarzseamed fitting
10:49.43FiskerThe biggest failure with ME2 is that the whole save-game thing was an afterthought
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10:49.57KriLL3save game thing?
10:50.12FiskerYeah where your story carries on from ME1 to ME2 to ME3, etc.
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10:50.32KriLL3not really an afterthough, though yes it doesn't come through that well in places
10:50.41Fiskeri think it is
10:50.46asmodaiKriLL3: So the FPS is more the focus now than the story then?
10:51.01FiskerThey should've had online profiles so you could've played the game when it was out, and you wouldn't have to save the savegame
10:51.24KriLL3I sexxored the blue alien in ME1, in ME2 she doesn't even seem to care about me anymore, the only consent they did to that connection was a quick kiss, after that she was all ice
10:51.28Fiskeri'm considering starting over in ME1
10:51.37KriLL3asmodai: no I wouldn't say so, though the shooting is much improved
10:52.17KriLL3but I guess they didn't have time to record totally unique dialog depending on all your choices
10:52.25Fiskersomeone should make a savegame editor that just creates a save with the choices
10:52.33Fiskerso you can quickly skip through it :P
10:52.41KriLL3meeting people from your old team is a bit awkward in that your old actions don't seem to have happened
10:53.36KriLL3they try to explain away that with being dead 2 years, but come on, a team that tightly knit wouldn't fade that quickly
10:53.50Fiskeralso kinda annoyed you can't be considered anything but a traitor for joining cerberus :P
10:54.23KriLL3yeah you can't even argue your point, you didn't really join them, you're just cooperating with them for this one mission, there is a difference between working together against a common foe and being best friends
10:54.41KriLL3everyone just labels you as cerberus
10:55.34KriLL3and the council completely ignoring you once again just feels like a plot hole, you should have some credibility after single-handedly saving em (as I did) in ME1
10:55.45kandarzFisker, did you play male or female
10:56.19KriLL3just feels like it's caused by the fact that there are so many choices relating to the council in ME1, they can be dead and replaced by humans, or you can have anderson or udina
10:56.25Fiskermale
10:56.30Fiskerwhy would i play female?
10:56.38KriLL3making em all ignore you is easier than making scenarios for each
10:56.41Fiskerexcept can you have a lesbian relationship with mirandi?
10:56.44Fiskermiranda*
10:56.45Fisker:P
10:56.47kandarzbecause the male voice actor is terrible
10:57.04KriLL3think he's ok, though a bit stiff
10:57.11kandarzand no, I don't think you can sex Miranda as female
10:57.13KriLL3better than most games =P
10:57.21KriLL3think you can with Jack
10:58.19kandarzwell everyone was cold with me, only one I could flirt with was the yeoman, I imported from ME1 though
10:58.40KriLL3also imported, and for them to be nice to you it's required to talk to them every now and then
10:59.12KriLL3also I think they have to be loyal to get further than just being nice
10:59.23kandarzI talked to the yeoman every time I went someplace or after I did a mission, I only got as far as dinner
10:59.27KriLL3after I did the mission Miranda asked me to do she got very friendly
10:59.56KriLL3I talk with em all just to check if there is anything there, if they say they're busy etc you have to wait some more
11:01.56KriLL3most of the dialog is actually interesting
11:02.06KriLL3feels like bioware put some time into the characters
11:02.57kandarzI made sure to kill jacob
11:03.04KriLL3errm, why?
11:03.09kandarzI didn't like him
11:03.18KriLL3errm, why?
11:04.15kandarzI didn't find him to be of much value, and the fact that he was "#3 in charge."
11:04.41KriLL3one of the most agreeable people there, he has a conscience and doesn't agree with most of cerberus' methods, and he's a loyal and dependable soldier
11:05.07olafski"personal preference"
11:05.10KriLL3but yes I almost never used him once I got other team members
11:05.20KriLL3since I'm a soldier
11:05.51KriLL3olafski: well it sounds like kandarz skipped most of the story/dialog
11:06.10kandarznaw, I didn't actually
11:06.14KriLL3and his more human side only comes through if you dig some, otherwise he's just a stone wall
11:06.33olafskimaybe he just didn't like the guy
11:06.45Megalon20:51:51> Icehowl suffers 423 Nature damage from Leafmuncher's Languish.(3809 Resisted)
11:06.55KriLL3though it's lame that when you talk to him about his personal stuff you smile creepily and put your ass on a counter and lean back...
11:06.55Megalonyou gotta love the 4T10 boomkin setbonus dot
11:07.10Megalononly spell which comes with 80-90% resist build in
11:07.10KriLL3kinda obvious that it's the same animation a woman/gay guy would do
11:09.48olafskihm did they exclude UBRS from the dungeon finder or is it really just that hard? I'm lvl 59 and still can't queue for it :P
11:10.00KriLL3think you need to be 60
11:10.10KriLL3and yes it's fairly hard
11:10.20KriLL3is still 15 man?
11:10.29olafskiI think it's been 10man for ages
11:10.36olafskihttp://www.wowwiki.com/Dungeon_finder doesn't list it though
11:10.48KriLL3I wouldn't know, I last did it back in vanilla
11:10.49olafskibut we'll see.. I intend to hit 60 today, surely I should be able to queue for it then
11:11.05olafskicould be that you can't queue for it because it's not a 5man though
11:11.08KriLL3I'm ignoring instances when I level
11:11.11olafskiyes I know
11:11.20olafskiyou've already mentioned that groups are stupid etc
11:11.44olafskistill I enjoy it.. though my queue times have gone through the roof since DKs entered the pool, seems they all want to tank too ;)
11:11.57KriLL3well mostly also because feral abilities are kinda useless that far down
11:12.05olafskibleh
11:12.11olafskiI've been tanking just fine ever since lvl ~25
11:12.32olafskimaybe it's not a matter of abilities but a matter of using them properly ;)
11:12.51KriLL3I'm just too set in how to do it at 80 I guess
11:12.58olafskiperhaps
11:13.11olafskias soon as you get swipe it's all faceroll
11:13.25KriLL32 target maul is also nice
11:13.29KriLL3and zerk mangle
11:13.42olafskithat's the only thing I don't have yet
11:13.52KriLL3zerk?
11:13.53olafskiI glyphed maul yer :P
11:13.55olafskiyeah
11:13.58olafskineed 1 more level
11:14.20olafskiI made a resto spec too now, since queue times as a tank were getting out of hand. there are quite many resto talents that are nice oO
11:14.26KriLL3got swipe + maul macro?
11:14.31olafskino
11:14.42olafskimy fingers don't object to pressing 2 buttons ,)
11:14.51KriLL3well further up it's more than 2
11:15.09olafskisure, it is now as well, but I don't always have the luxury of infinite rage so I don't want to maul every time I press swipe
11:15.17KriLL3<PROTECTED>
11:15.22KriLL3each on their own line ofc
11:15.23olafskiI know how macros work
11:15.32KriLL3well you might not know the ! part
11:15.36olafskibut I do
11:15.42olafskiI played a prot warrior in vanilla.. spamming is second nature to me
11:15.52KriLL3sorry for trying to be helpful, won't happen again
11:15.57olafskinp
11:18.21KriLL3I can also spam but sadly maul and swipe was really far apart for me and re-binding just doesn't work for me
11:18.32KriLL3too strong muscle memory
11:18.59KriLL3was a bit awkward to push 3 buttons all far apart
11:19.22KriLL3and there isn't really a good reason to differentiate maul and swipe imo
11:19.49KriLL3at least not while tanking, and I got a separate tanking spec
11:21.39Fiskerslaps KriLL3 around a bit with a large trout
11:21.57KriLL3shifts to bear and happily eats the trout
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11:23.59olafskias I said, I'm not always on infinite rage so I don't want it
11:24.06KriLL3hmm true
11:24.17KriLL3dodge = rage & crit rage should be enough tough
11:24.18olafskimaul has been on 1 and swipe on 3 for me since I got them
11:24.23KriLL3swipe crits nicely
11:24.27olafskiused to be HS on 2 and sunder armor on 4 though
11:24.38olafskiyeah it usually is, but I don't want to risk running out of rage
11:25.10KriLL3guaranteed to return more than I loose on swipe, but yes maul costs some
11:25.23KriLL3though it's the best aggro ability we have
11:25.25asmodaiby the way, so I am levelling a druid, is Bear rage quite slow to build up at low levels?
11:25.31KriLL3yeah it is
11:25.33asmodaiThat definitely felt like that to me
11:25.44KriLL3our main rage comes from dodging and critting
11:25.48asmodaiThat would explain.
11:25.51KriLL3do less of both at lower levels
11:26.14olafskiand you require rather high talents to get the rage from dodge
11:26.22KriLL3if you got 2-3 mobs to swipe spam you got infi rage
11:26.39olafskilvl 35 for the first rage from dodge
11:26.48KriLL3yeah and those aren't really leveling talents, I dual specced early on my new feral
11:26.54KriLL3one "cat" and one "bear" spec
11:26.56olafskiand 25 for rage from crit
11:27.22olafskiheh I'm at 4 days 21 hours played and almost lvl 60 :<
11:27.33olafskinot very accurate I guess since this char is also my bank alt but still
11:28.03KriLL3I've leveled enough chars to do so quickly
11:28.53asmodaiWell, I finally got my cat now though
11:28.53KriLL3though it does feel like cheating to level a DK
11:29.05asmodaiSo will use feral dps for levelling
11:29.10KriLL3asmodai: catform at first has like 2 things right? FB and claw
11:29.18asmodairip too
11:29.22KriLL3oh yay rip
11:29.24KriLL3=P
11:30.16asmodaihttp://talent.mmo-champion.com/?druid#-4SohLSIJ5FUdD,RMJR3O,11159
11:30.19asmodaiWas thinking of this spec
11:30.31olafskicatform sucks so bad at lvl 20, I abandoned my druid for months after I got that :P
11:30.40KriLL3asmodai: you forgot charge
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11:31.15olafskihttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Dragonblight&cn=Druidski&gn=Slackers <-- pro build
11:31.33KriLL3asmodai: what role? that looks like dps/pvp
11:31.42asmodaiKriLL3: pve dps
11:31.49KriLL3I'd still recommend charge
11:31.54KriLL3works in catform also you know
11:32.01asmodaineeds to make changes then :)
11:32.15KriLL3drop primal fury
11:32.30KriLL3no wait
11:32.37KriLL3sorry forgot that had a cat component
11:33.09KriLL3hmm remove one from predatory insticts
11:33.15KriLL3put it on charge
11:33.27asmodaiAre the points in resto useful or a waste?
11:33.36KriLL3feral instinc it useless in pve btw
11:33.38KriLL3it's pvp
11:33.42KriLL3they're good
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11:33.49KriLL3I got the same points in resto
11:33.59KriLL3feral instinct is the t2 shadowmeld icon
11:34.23KriLL3the swipe dmg only matters in bear and you don't need to worry about being spotted in pve
11:35.07KriLL3remove it and spend the points on charge and perhaps some more on naturalist in resto
11:35.41KriLL3cat charge puts you behind the enemy btw
11:35.48KriLL3> lower detection
11:37.15KriLL3oh nvm put em in king of the jungle
11:37.29KriLL3makes tiger's fury restore 60 energy
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11:38.59Mikkif we're talking pve cat there's roughly about one sane spec
11:39.11Mikkany raiding cat will have it
11:39.31KriLL3yeah, though I can't recall what it was, though there are some obvious stuff
11:39.49KriLL3I pvp as cat and grind as cat, I pve in groups as tanking bear
11:39.50Mikkyou want to max naturalist
11:39.54Mikkthere's no two ways about it
11:40.14KriLL3Mikk: master shapeshifter also?
11:40.40KriLL3guess OoC is a must also, just one point and then you got enough points for it anyway
11:40.55Mikkhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Bloodhoof&cn=Inuchi&gn=Chimera
11:41.03Megalonhttp://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=11&tal=0000000000000000000000000000553202132322010053120030300511203503012
11:41.20Megalonferal pve dps
11:41.30KriLL3yeah that's more or less what I recommended, except I don't understand the point of feral instincts
11:41.45Mikkhmmm yeah he's being silly
11:41.53Mikkshould max feral aggression
11:41.53olafskiis the Thick Hide armor applied before or after bear form multiplies your armor by 4.7?
11:42.13KriLL3no idea
11:42.15Megalonit's multiplicative
11:42.17Mikkolafski: if you know how % works you wouldn't ask that question ;)
11:42.26KriLL3it's a no-brainer for tanks, don't see why dps would want it
11:42.33olafskiif you know how wow works you wouldn't tell me that mikk ,)
11:42.35Mikkthick hide? no
11:43.00olafskimegalon: thanks :)
11:43.03Mikkwell... 10*1.04*4.7 = 10*4.7*1.04
11:43.05Mikkshrugs
11:43.15olafskisighs
11:43.19KriLL3multiplication in wow stacks from what I know
11:43.22Megalongroans
11:43.39olafski10 * 4.7 * 1.04 != 10 * (4.7 + 0.04)
11:43.46Mikkaha!
11:43.47olafskipercentages could work either way, apparently the first one is the one they use
11:43.53KriLL3that's why catform with dash and pvp gear is as fast as a quick mount
11:44.10MegalonMikk: you ever saw glyph of obliterate? :P
11:44.13Mikkpro druids have leatherworking and use drums of speed
11:44.15Mikk:P
11:44.15olafskidash doesn't stack with the +30% speed though :<
11:44.20Megalonthat's one that is additive %
11:44.26MikkMegalon: joy
11:44.34Megalonobliterate, 80% +x, glyph says "increase by 20%"
11:44.41Megalon80%+20% = 100%
11:44.42Megalon:x
11:44.42KriLL3olafski: true, but we're still 195%
11:44.48KriLL3+ infected wounds = we're faster than them
11:44.58olafskibeh care about pvp
11:45.01KriLL3can't run from a feral on a mount
11:45.14KriLL3olafski: only thing that doesn't bore me to tears
11:45.26asmodaiSo, should you have survival instincts or not? Feels more like a pvp thinghy
11:45.41KriLL3yes it's pvp, and not very good for that
11:45.45asmodaigotcha
11:45.50Mikkit's situational
11:45.51KriLL3the swipe dmg bonus makes it good for tanking though
11:45.57Mikkcan be a life saver in some fights if they go wrong
11:46.19MikkKriLL3: we're talking the +30% health cooldown now
11:46.20olafskisurvival instincts gives swipe dmg? niiice
11:46.20KriLL3Mikk: well I don't really need to spot stealthers that often
11:46.31KriLL3Mikk: errm no
11:46.36KriLL3oh wait
11:46.38KriLL3yes sorry
11:46.39olafskierrm yes
11:46.58asmodaiKriLL3: swipe bonus dmg? Is that some hidden feature of survival instincts?
11:47.00Mikkolafski: no, he was talking about feral instincts ;)
11:47.04olafskimikk: ,)
11:47.04Mikkasmodai: ^
11:47.06KriLL3yeah might be nice, though you usually are boned if you need that as dps
11:47.24KriLL3asmodai: thought they were talking about feral instincts, the feral tree is a bit confusing =P
11:47.42Mikknot as confusing as paladin talent names
11:47.44Mikkand skills
11:47.56Mikkeverything is Hammer/Shield of SomethingHolyOrAnother
11:48.00asmodaiI guess Feral Charge is also more PvPish?
11:48.01KriLL3yeah
11:48.16olafskijudgements of the just/pure/wise!
11:48.27KriLL3asmodai: yes and no, nice to have in pve imo, since it makes you able to get into the fight sooner and you land behind your target
11:48.29Mikkasmodai: feral charge is a valid pve dps increaser the same way runspeed enchant on boots is =)
11:48.36Mikkdoesnt help at all in a static fight but
11:48.39Mikkthose were in MC
11:48.41Wobinferal charge is awesome
11:48.52Wobinespecially if you accidentally get knocked back or tailswiped
11:49.02KriLL3yeah
11:49.09Wobinthere's nothing better than seeing a feral kitty reverse direction midair after being tailswiped by Onyxia
11:49.21MikkESPECIALLY tailswiped since you end up smack in the right place to get ANOTHER tailswipe! =)
11:49.38KriLL3also fun in pvp ofc, bookmin/ele shaman sends you down from LM and you just bounce back
11:49.39Wobinit's like Kitty Pong =)
11:50.03KriLL3killed some like that, they assumed I was down/dead and relaxed to sit down and eat/drink
11:50.26MikkGROAAAR *pawpawpaw*
11:51.02KriLL3fun to completely mangle both of those as cat, they don't stand a chance, too many long casts
11:51.16Mikkwrong specced boomkek if so
11:51.21Mikkowlkin rage
11:51.39asmodaiI woke the druids >_<
11:51.39Mikkprocs pretty damn fast with a 0.8 attackspeed kitty
11:51.55Mikkand suddenly they do 10% more damage
11:51.56Mikkoops!½
11:52.07Mikki even dropped mana restore talents in my pve spec for owlkin rage
11:52.10Mikk& go stand in fire
11:52.11Mikktis awesome
11:52.14Mikk=)
11:52.15KriLL3not met a single boomkin what wasn't easy pickings, they got some nice dmg output but instant heals + interrupt/stuns isn't easy to counter
11:52.55KriLL3though like all casters/hunters when they stand inside a zerg and snipe you they're dangerous
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11:53.23Mikkmm was funner back when you could go bear, zoom in, swipeswipeswipe and run in circles
11:53.28Mikkand actually live for more than half a second
11:53.33KriLL3too bad we don't have something like death grip =P
11:53.48KriLL3Mikk: you still can if you got some tanking talents and burn em
11:53.55KriLL3if not too many are casters
11:53.58Mikkyeah then you live ONE and a half!
11:54.10asmodaiDeath grip makes me start impersonating Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, I keep saying "Get over here!"
11:54.22KriLL3asmodai: there is a mod/macro that does that
11:54.31KriLL3felt like killing that DK after the 5:th time
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11:55.48asmodaiWhy would someone not take mangle as kitty?
11:55.49KriLL3feral charge gives some nice opportunities in pvp though, can use it in weird ways, like charge people inside bunkers/towers, over chasms etc
11:56.00KriLL3asmodai: non feral? I dunno.
11:56.24KriLL3well if you got a mangle bot other ferals can shred instead
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11:57.37KriLL3don't know too much about feral dps, always go as tank
11:58.00KriLL3less queuing
11:58.16olafskibut more frustrations from dpsers who try to take the lead :D
11:58.24Yivrydamn still havent heard anything from blizz :(
11:58.26asmodaiolafski: mm?
11:58.44olafskia little joke asmodai ,)
11:58.47KriLL3olafski: I hold my own on dpsmeters with people with as good or a bit better gear
11:58.59olafskithat's not what I was getting at krill3
11:59.03KriLL3yeah got it now
11:59.06asmodaiok, so basically something akin to http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?druid#-uKiaYE4MsZjn2,RMJR3O,11159 for kitty pve dps
11:59.16asmodaiWonder what to make my dual talent though
11:59.23olafskiresto :D
11:59.43KriLL3asmodai: again, why feral instincts?
11:59.57asmodaioh wait
11:59.59asmodaikitty dps
12:00.14KriLL3stealth+ and swipe isn't very useful as kitty dps
12:00.33asmodaihttp://talent.mmo-champion.com/?druid#-m_O3t0oSDb58i,RMJR3O,11159 then
12:00.34olafskiwewt, ding 60
12:00.48olafskinow all my chars are 60+ :)
12:00.54asmodaiheh
12:00.58Kalrothboth of them?!
12:01.04olafskino, all of them
12:01.07KriLL3olafski: you don't have any bank alts? =P
12:01.16olafskithis druid is my bank alt
12:01.36KriLL3heh, I had like 5 on my original realm/char
12:01.38KriLL3still have em
12:01.38olafskimakes playing kind of awkward with full bags
12:01.46KriLL3one of em just has cloth
12:02.00KriLL3bags & bank full of cloth, all 22 slot bags
12:02.19asmodaimy 10 alliance ones are almost nearing the 20+ line. Horde ones are at least 10+
12:02.22asmodaiWTB moar tiem
12:02.35olafskiwtb moar character slots :(
12:02.56KriLL3a couple weeks ago it was so full I had to get rid of some, people didn't quite believe me when I said I sold a couple hundred stacks of frost & nether
12:02.59asmodaiolafski: yea :(
12:03.06asmodaiolafski: especially with Goblin and Worgen coming :(
12:03.20olafskiwell I will have a lvl 80 of each class by that time anyway
12:03.21asmodaiI am on purpose using diff specs on my Horde characters for levelling
12:03.23olafskimight switch one of them to worgen
12:04.14olafskialways fun to have to change to a different spec and manually update all skills when you visited a trainer >_<
12:04.24KriLL3what kind of weirdo wants to play goblin anyway?
12:05.05olafskimaybe I should replace all my abilities with macros so this issue won't be an issue anymore
12:05.25KriLL3or get abs
12:06.31olafskiis that an abbreviation or the name of an addon?
12:07.05KriLL3action bar saver
12:07.08olafskiI looked for something like autorank
12:07.33KriLL3ah you mean lower ranks on abilities when you level up
12:07.51olafskiyeh
12:07.54KriLL3though you mean that the bars go empty when you switch spec
12:07.58olafskivery annoying
12:08.02olafskihm no that never happens to me
12:08.55olafskioh well, time to go to a meeting :<
12:08.57KriLL3asmodai: btw drop the claw glyph
12:09.03KriLL3don't use claw when you get mangle
12:09.50KriLL3get zerk instead I guess
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12:11.46YivryI wanna play again :(
12:13.47KriLL3speccing for feral dps is kinda tricky, so many feral talents and so few points... need to balance survivability burst and overall dps
12:14.04KriLL3feels like I'd need 2x as many points to get all I want
12:14.47KriLL3but we only get 5 more in cata, wonder how that'll work, just one 3/3 ability bellow the current max and then a 1/1 ?
12:15.49Fiskerthey'll rework a lot of talents anyway
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12:18.01Brybryi thought I read somewhere that the trees weren't getting deeper
12:18.39Fiskerthey won't
12:19.31Fiskeryou'll get 5 more talent points though
12:20.08KriLL3wish feral didn't feel so overstuffed, and it's lame imo that we need to spec 15+ points in resto
12:23.36Megalonit's the same for balance
12:24.01Megalonfor example, 2T10 bonus is about a RESTO talent
12:24.05Megalon:(
12:25.51sb|workKriLL3: "survivability""??? thats your healers job
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12:26.15KriLL3sb|work: don't go with a healer in 2on2
12:26.20sb|workoh... right
12:26.25KriLL3or in BGs
12:26.46KriLL3oh wait, feral pvp I should have said
12:26.52Fiskeryour mother is about a resto talent Megalon
12:26.53KriLL3could have sworn I put pvp in there somewhere
12:26.58sb|work:p
12:27.24Fiskerone thing that could be awesome btw
12:27.31Fiskerlike that thing they're talking about where you can shift one stat to another stat
12:27.32sb|workpvp is like bear form + kill everything that moves
12:27.40FiskerIs if you could take an old set bonus and apply to a new set
12:27.55KriLL3a bit tempting to try and pvp in bearform, mltii target hits, though then you lack instant heals
12:29.10KriLL3guess it would be good vs teams with healers, hit both of them at once to burst both, making at least one die
12:29.35Repo10links: 03jerry 04v1.3-release * r114 : Tagging as v1.3-release
12:33.34Brybryexcept they have to be retarded enough to stand together
12:33.35Brybry=p
12:34.00KriLL3Brybry: if you focus on the ranged player the melee guy kinda has to go there
12:38.57sb|workhm - any news for eu blizz magazine?
12:39.26Fiskersome already got it sb|work
12:43.08sb|workyea? hmm
12:43.17sb|workmaybe i also got it, but i'm not at home...
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12:46.12Fiskersb|work i'm talking like weeks ago
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12:48.43sb|workFisker: thats US only
12:48.49GagorianKemayo: Ah, yeah reorganized the options table but forgot to change the LSM callbacks.
12:52.21yoshimoblizz magazine?
12:52.27Fiskerno sb|work
12:52.32sb|workyoshimo: yes!?
12:56.55asmodaisb|work: only what I told you, if not arrived at the end of the month, email them
12:57.00asmodaiHaven't gotten it yet.
13:00.28sb|workasmodai: so i dont have to email if others also didnt get it by now  :p
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15:26.39Kaelteng'morning
15:26.47nevcairielmorning Kaelten
15:27.33nicoli_smorning!
15:27.46Megalondamn you morning!
15:28.26nicoli_sindeed, monday morning is the worst
15:28.34nicoli_sespecially when i dont have anything to work on
15:28.53Megalonat least after tuesday the calenders says WTF
15:29.11Kalroth16:28] <nicoli_s> indeed, monday morning is the worst <- haaaa
15:29.21nicoli_s?
15:29.23Yivrymorning... pfff Im up for 9 hours already
15:29.32nevcairiel10 hours!
15:29.44Kalrothit's 4:30pm here, monday is soon over!
15:29.49nicoli_slucky u
15:29.54nicoli_s930 am :(
15:30.17Megalonhooray 4 europe!
15:30.18KalrothEuropeans got it better, our Mondays are over before yours are
15:30.29ThiefMasterShadowed: i've corrected some mistakes in the german elitistgroup translation
15:30.42ThiefMasterit was rather horrible.. almost like from google language tools  ;x
15:31.08Kalrothknowing Shadowed, that is probably exactly what it was :p
15:31.13nevcairielheh
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15:32.00Kalrothenglish text: "Ok", german text: "Hände hoch!"
15:32.22olafskihahaha
15:33.39MegalonSAUERKRAUT!
15:33.47Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1237 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed one case of global pollution
15:33.49Repo- Fixed one case of typo'd variable getglobal
15:35.06ThiefMasteractually, i don't understand why people prefer a bad translation over no translation
15:35.12ThiefMastermost germans understand english anyway
15:35.28olafskireally?
15:35.55quiescensdepends on how easy it is to switch between translations
15:36.14ThiefMastersometimes i'm even tempted to switch to the english client
15:36.19ThiefMasterso many addons have bad translations..
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15:36.57ThiefMasteror it just sounds stupid.. for example, ensidiafails - if you are used to "%s FAILED: ..." messages the translated ones look quite odd
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17:14.46Grum@project spamalyzer
17:14.48RepoGrum: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/. Spamalyzer. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author), yoshimo (Author). Updated: 67 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1
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17:30.40asmodaimmm, interview with Google tomorrow
17:31.00sb|workwith THE google????
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17:38.01Repoalso misc whitespace cleanups, whatch for those tabs!
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17:55.14sb|workwtf
17:55.19sb|worksome strange stuff happened here
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17:56.14olafskinice asmodai :D good luck
17:56.22olafskiassuming it was a job interview and you're not interviewing them
17:56.42sb|work1 guildie disappered from guild (well, was "offline" listed in our guild list) - but still online - without guild tag, cleared from all ingame calendars and something changed her ICC25 id :o (she was raiding with us thursday, no she is inside another instance with another id - but same "progress")
17:57.00sb|workfeels like that char was deleted for some seconds and then restored... no idea what that is :o
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18:12.44Megalonprobably a hiccup from LHC
18:13.47sb|workyea Megalon
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18:21.30asmodaiolafski: Thanks
18:21.36asmodaiolafski: No, they approached me. Second time now.
18:21.46asmodaiThis time it's more interesting what they offer as a position,
18:21.59asmodaiand also find out I have a few more acquaintances working there :|
18:24.24Fiskersb|work it was a GM probably
18:24.55Fiskerdunno why he would disappear from the calendar though
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18:42.50steevdoing the argent tournament over again is just annoying
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18:51.11olafskiasmodai: hm, they approached you? I have to reach this level of awesomeness I guess ;)
18:51.34asmodaiolafski: Yes. Second time in 2 years.
18:51.41pompysteev: suck it up ;p
18:52.46olafskigrats asmodai ^^
18:52.55olafskiI'm entering the job market in a couple of months :<
18:53.46nevcairiela python job for google? i would love that :d
18:54.30Yivryisnt python ancient history yet?
18:54.41nevcairielpython is the future, tbh :d
18:55.13Yivrynever did anything with it
18:55.25asmodaiWell, it's:
18:55.26asmodaiI recruit for a specific department here called the Google.com team, which is
18:55.26asmodailike the mission control for all our products here; our engineers are
18:55.26asmodairesponsible for the infrastructure design for all of our web applications and
18:55.27asmodaiinternal services, from the search engine to Maps to GMail.
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18:55.54olafskiyivry: I think you're thinking of Perl ;)
18:56.09Yivrythat too should be ancient history
18:56.15Yivrybut with perl I did some stuff
18:56.17olafskiindeed
18:56.28Yivryso python should be worse ;)
18:56.51olafskibah, got HoL as random hc :P
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18:57.02olafskican't be worse than perl
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18:57.08Yivrywtb random heroic
18:57.12Yivryany will do
18:57.26olafski;)
18:57.29olafskiI left the group
18:57.35olafskiI'll just play another char until the debuff disappears :P
18:57.40Yivry<PROTECTED>
18:57.44evlAnyone know if it's possible to adjust the alpha of Grid frames that have the alpha status?
18:57.48olafskiha, got forge of souls now :)
18:57.54steevpompy: oh i am, its somewhat helpful i suppose since primordial saronite refuse to drop below 2.5k on our server
18:57.59evlolafski: you can die and leave the group and you won't get the debuff :P
18:58.29Yivrywhoa trick the system! but at what cost? 10%
18:58.41nevcairielasmodai: sounds like a good position
18:58.54asmodainevcairiel: yeah
18:59.08asmodaiSeems a lot of my old FreeBSD acquaintances work there
18:59.18YivryI know someone working at google
18:59.22Yivryhe likes it there :p
18:59.33pompysteev: yeah dbl the gold
18:59.34pompylol
18:59.42Grum@project libgrouptalents-1.0
18:59.44RepoGrum: No project found that matches 'libgrouptalents-1.0'
18:59.46Grummmm
18:59.49Grum@project libgrouptalents
18:59.53RepoGrum: No project found that matches 'libgrouptalents'
18:59.57nevcairielthere are no dots in slugs :D
18:59.58olafskihad to do a random on 2 chars anyway evl :) but thanks
19:00.02pompy@project libgrouptalents-1-0
19:00.03Repopompy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libgrouptalents-1-0/. LibGroupTalents-1.0. Game: WoW. Zeksie (Manager/Author). Updated: 47 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
19:00.31Grumits rather spammy O.o
19:00.38Grumworse than gearscore O.o
19:06.04asmodaiYivry: which location?
19:08.49Yivryhe is in switzerland
19:09.13Yivrysomewhere, and dunno his department
19:09.24Yivryah zurich
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19:11.35asmodaiYivry: Ah yes
19:11.39asmodaione of the locations
19:11.47asmodaiWould probably be my choice
19:12.39nevcairielSo you have to move to another country for that job, eh?
19:13.51asmodaiAye
19:13.59asmodaiUSA, UK, IE, CH, or AU
19:14.08Yivryand thats the only sucky thing about google :p
19:14.10asmodaiWith all due respect for the Merkins here, but USA, nah
19:14.19asmodaiSod your labour laws or lack of  :P
19:14.24nevcairielI wouldnt want to go to the US as well
19:14.27asmodaiLondon is as appealing as a rock
19:14.31nevcairielAU would be interesting :P
19:14.32asmodaiDublin might be alright
19:14.38asmodaiZurich is too
19:14.42Yivrylondon is so expensive :p
19:14.46asmodaiAnd Sydney also, except that AU sucks with game releases.
19:14.59nevcairieloh yeah their shitty game laws
19:14.59asmodaiAnd more of their nannying
19:15.07nevcairielbut then i dont play shit anyway
19:15.09asmodaiLike the UK has with their fuckton of cameras
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19:16.46nevcairielI would've probably chosen zurich as well then, at least they speak my language there, not that english would be a problem, just a tiny advantage :d
19:17.11nevcairielalthough i'm not that big fan of CH in general, fwiw
19:17.24asmodaiHow so?
19:19.28nevcairielWith their pro-claimed neutrality and all, plus i like some of the things the EU does :D
19:20.14Yivryhow about we attack switzerland so they cant be neutral anymore :p
19:20.20asmodainevcairiel: indeed!
19:20.27asmodaiYivry: Some people tried that a while ago...
19:20.43Yivryapparently not hard enough
19:21.13asmodaiHard to storm mountains with tanks
19:21.28Yivryairplanes?
19:21.56Brybrybut you might destroy all the pretty girls =x
19:22.17asmodaiCH has pretty girls?
19:22.26nevcairieli didnt realize ch was especially known for their pretty girls
19:22.28Yivrynewsflash!
19:22.36Yivrythats sweden
19:22.39Yivrynot switzerland
19:22.46Brybryi bet switzerland has pretty girls too
19:22.54Brybryok
19:22.56Brybrymaybe not
19:22.58Brybryi take that back
19:22.59nevcairiellol
19:23.00yoshimoi think every country has
19:23.01Brybrygo ahead with the planes
19:23.42Yivryso lets order some JSFs, ill take 5, for how much can I write you guys down?
19:24.10nevcairielwhen you say JSF all i can come up with is java server faces <.<
19:24.24YivryJoint Strike Fighter
19:24.41Yivryhttp://www.jsf.mil/
19:25.00durcynaka Boondoggle 2: Electric Budget Overrun
19:25.09durcyni'd take an F/A22 over a JSF
19:25.27YivryGood ol' F16 imho :p
19:25.32nevcairielI'll just get some eurofighters, fighting for a united europe, that seems right
19:25.51asmodaihttp://hotdogandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/swiss-girls.jpg
19:26.10Yivryyou can keep those asmodai
19:26.13asmodaihttp://media.photobucket.com/image/swiss%20girls/raineryong/blogger/swiss-girl.jpg
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19:26.39Brybryyou're not making progress
19:26.43asmodaiNope :(
19:26.51Repo10emblemwatch (experimental): 03Silmano 07master * bad293a EmblemWatch.toc: [new, +1 commit] - Initial commit
19:27.01asmodairofl
19:27.02asmodaihttp://euro2008girls.com/pics/hysterical_swiss_girls.jpg
19:27.15nevcairielnow its going downhill
19:27.54asmodaiYea
19:28.43Repo10emblemwatch (experimental): 03Silmano 07master * 073b0f4 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Initial Commit II
19:29.37Fisker@project emblemwatch
19:29.39RepoFisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/emblemwatch/. EmblemWatch. Game: WoW. Status: Requesting experimental. Silmano (Manager/Author). Updated: 68 minutes ago
19:29.46Fiskerfail
19:31.26asmodaijesus, if you haven't followed Inuyasha for a while then Inuyasha Kanketsuhen doesn't make much sense
19:33.23Megalonany anime with a story worth following is not worth watching
19:33.44asmodaiMegalon: How's that?
19:33.52nevcairiels/with a story worth following//
19:34.14Megalononly reason for story
19:34.20Megalonis to fill those 5 seconds gaps
19:34.23Megalonbetween the bondage scenes
19:34.29asmodaiwtf
19:34.37olafskinevcairiel++
19:34.47asmodaiSeems you only know about hentai :P
19:35.10Megaloneverything eicchi and above
19:35.12Megaloni'd say :P
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19:36.16asmodaipffft
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19:37.03asmodaideducts points from Megalon's brownie point account
19:37.31Megalonis there any point in watching one piece
19:37.38Megalonthan seeing nami's boobs bouncing?
19:38.15Fiskerhey Megalon
19:38.17Fiskeri like you
19:38.18Fiskerkinda
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19:40.56orionshockis it going to let me talk now??
19:41.09orionshockzomg, can't change nicks because i can't talk...
19:41.10asmodaino
19:41.52orionshockas i was trying to say to Megalon, there is more to anime than pron, it's hard to believe but there is
19:42.23asmodaiis happy with his original collection of Naruto pockets.
19:42.29asmodaiOf course, in Japanese ^^
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19:46.29Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles * r44 / (15 files in 2 directories): fixed pkgmeta and embeds and localiztion
19:46.31Repoalso implemented bagnon support
19:51.05Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles * r45 readme.txt: updated the readme file
19:51.47Yivrylol a readme file? anyone reading those?
19:52.18Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles 042.5-beta * r46 : Tagging as 2.5-beta
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19:52.52TorhalYivry: He does, every time he writes it.
19:52.57TorhalBut yes - some people do.
19:54.31YivryIm bored, and played bejeweled too much already...
19:54.49NeoTronI've been known to look for/at readme files if it wasn't apparently obvious how to use an addon
19:56.11Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r121 Core.lua: -add compat for people running Bagnon 2.12.5b
19:56.15Repo-MobileVault will now properly scan the guild bank contents again when running that addon
19:57.34YivryHmm I need to find a way to scrape more reward points :p
19:57.47TorhalYivry: Writing shit has the desired effect
19:58.07Yivryyou try to find the right shit...
19:58.15Yivrycant think of anything atm :p
19:58.23Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 042.0.2 * r122 : Tagging as 2.0.2
19:58.54Yivryhad one successfull addon so far, and 1 that is currently redundant
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20:07.01Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles * r47 PotHerbFuLocals.lua: removed old localization
20:10.32Gnarfozmeh, how long does the MS CryptoAPI cache passphrases? oO
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20:18.39Repo10ensidiafails: 03mysticalos * r208 EnsidiaFails.lua: Added the Coldflame trap.
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20:32.42Yivrythere, added an extra option, jay new version == more downloads :p
20:33.01nevcairielmore downloads dont get you more points
20:33.10nevcairiel:P
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20:34.29Yivrymore downloads == more popular == more points right?
20:34.43nevcairielno
20:34.49nevcairielit counts the users through the curse client
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20:34.52NeoTroninstall base is what matters
20:34.58Yivrynerf
20:35.10Yivry:p
20:35.12nevcairielotherwise it would be too easy to cheat
20:35.13NeoTronotherwise it'd be trivial to exploiut by making nonsense changes every day
20:35.25durcynsvn ci -m "toc bump"
20:35.30durcynoops, wrong window
20:35.33durcyn;)
20:35.36Yivrylol
20:35.54NeoTronsvn ci -m "fixed formatting in toc to be more aestetically pleasing"
20:36.02Yivry@project yrd
20:36.05RepoYivry: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/yrd/. Yury's RuneDisplay. Game: WoW. Yivry (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 days ago. Tickets: 1/6
20:36.21Yivrylol wrong info, updated few minutes ago :p
20:36.24Fiskeri has a bad idea
20:36.36NeoTronMass Effect 2 tomorrow.
20:36.42NeoTronneed to make sure it's pre-loaded in steam tonight
20:36.49Fiskerl2p
20:37.31durcynfisker pirated it a week ago
20:37.34NeoTronFisker: I don't download wares these days, so I don't have it yet. just saying
20:37.57durcynalso, if you're lame enough to have the 360 version, apparently microsoft screwed up and made all of the dlc available to anyone
20:38.27NeoTronlike the preorder bonuses and crap or what?
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20:40.26durcynyes
20:40.31durcyncollectors edition equipment etc
20:40.47NeoTronfunny
20:40.59NeoTronbet the various merchants with "unique items" are happy about that
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20:43.42Repo10babel: 03eblume 041.2 * r55 : Tagging as 1.2
20:44.07Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles * r48 localization (9 files in 1 directory): fixed localization
20:47.17Fiskernaw durcyn
20:47.26durcynyes fisker
20:47.29Fiskerit was 4 days agi
20:47.29Fiskerago
20:47.46Fiskerbut NeoTron could've done that
20:53.49NeoTronis not in a hurry.
20:53.53NeoTronI'll get it soon enough
20:53.58Repo10fu-bar_pot-herb-fu: 03Smuggles 042.5beta * r49 : Tagging as 2.5beta
20:54.23Yivryjust curious... on average, how many reward points are given each day (in total)?
20:56.20Fiskerover 9000
20:56.37Yivryhaha funny man >.<
20:56.53nevcairielnot that many .. maybe 5000 or so, could ask ckknight, maybe he tells :P
20:57.11nevcairielprobably even less
20:57.11NeoTronseems like that would be confidential information
20:57.39Yivryone can ask right? if it is confidential, then let that be the answer ;)
20:57.49NeoTronit would indirectly reveal the profitibility of the premium curse client income :P
20:57.52NeoTroncertainly
20:58.25durcyni should cash mine in for amazon credit one of these days
20:59.47Yivrymeh Im still waiting for the 500$... only last time I calculated, that will take me another 3,5 years or so :p
21:00.51Pneumatusgot 40 GBP in points now, and have taken 30 GBP in vouchers, and thats the only time i've shopped on amazon :o
21:01.27durcynhuh
21:01.31NeoTronyou should shop more at amazon.. moar moar
21:01.39Pneumatusnah, have to pay tax
21:01.40durcyna $50 amazon card is 400 points, but a $100 amazon card is 1000 points?
21:01.59Axodiousis it normal to have ace2 slash commands popup instead of ace3 when doing /ace?
21:02.04durcynoh, nevermind, columns are misaligned in elinks
21:02.12nevcairiellol
21:02.15Pneumatuslol
21:02.38NeoTron$20 is 400, $50 is 1000 and $100 is 2000
21:02.56Yivryand $500 cash is 10000, it all scales right :P
21:03.03nevcairiel1 point is 0.05c .. easy :d
21:03.24Yivryso thats almost 0.35c each day wahoo :p
21:04.09nevcairiel7 points, wow! :P
21:04.16Yivrylike I said, ive got only 2 addons out there, one of which is made redundant (i think since 3.3)
21:04.30nevcairielthat doesnt stop people from using it!
21:04.39nevcairieli bet Antiarc still gets points from threat-2.0 :D
21:04.40Pneumatusjust look at cartographer!
21:04.50Yivry@project isc
21:04.51RepoYivry: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/isc/. ItemSetChecker. Game: WoW. Yivry (Manager/Author). Updated: 233 days ago
21:05.00Yivry@describe isc
21:05.13RepoYivry: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/isc/. ItemSetChecker. ItemSetChecker is a very lightweight addon that adds the names of the sets (from the Blizzard Equipment Manager) an item is i...
21:05.15Megalonimagine gearscore on curse ;7
21:05.36nevcairielgearscore is on curse, that guy is just too stupid to turn on the reward things
21:05.53Yivryread that description... blizz does that now themselves, so it would only generate 2 lines in the same tooltip
21:06.02Megalonoh, nvgearscore is it?
21:06.09nevcairielThreat-2.0 still generates about 6 points per day
21:06.19nevcairielfor a library that hasnt been working since BC, thats quite good, isnt it?
21:06.38Yivrynerf, ive been working my ass off on yrd for 6 points a day
21:06.42nevcairielin fact, it only contains a readme these days
21:06.48nevcairieliirc
21:08.22Yivryso what's the biggest point generator?
21:08.36nevcairielquesthelper or omen, most likely
21:08.46PneumatusQH by far on the install base
21:09.17YivryDBM is highest avg downloads i see now
21:09.21YivryQH 2nd
21:09.45Pneumatus1.5mil installs of QH, 1.2mil for Recount, Omen only has 950k
21:09.54Pneumatusatlasloot has 1.15mil
21:09.57nevcairielwhere do you see installs?
21:10.07Pneumatuspopularity column in "Get More Addons"
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21:10.23Pneumatuspopularity = number of CC installs
21:12.05nevcairieli dont even see that link anywhere =P
21:12.11nevcairielor is it in CC?
21:12.22Pneumatusin cc4, left side, under tools
21:12.25Pneumatusabove downloads
21:12.32Fisker1,15 million retards
21:12.33Fisker:(
21:12.47Megalonnope, 1,5mill with curse profiler
21:12.53Megalonso 1,5m retards
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21:13.34nicoli_stoo bad curse profiler doesnt get any rewards :(
21:13.42nicoli_si get 0 points for my war and rom addons :(
21:13.44nevcairielyou get paid for it
21:13.51Pneumatustoo bad its not used for anything productive
21:14.03nicoli_slies!
21:14.07Pneumatus1.5mil users and wowdb is still like 2 content patches behind
21:14.16RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/emblemwatch/. EmblemWatch. Silmano (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Nevcairiel.
21:14.24nevcairieli thought they stopped caring about wowdb
21:14.49nicoli_swe pretty much did :( though we did update it recently
21:14.58Fiskerwowdb r ded ;(
21:15.05Pneumatuswhats the profiler used other than feeding wowdb?
21:15.06Megalonwowdb was nice when searching things
21:15.08Yivrywowdb... thats right that site also existed :p
21:15.15Fiskertotal possible emblems?
21:15.16Fiskerlol?
21:15.20Megalonbecause the thing you see first, is useless player profiles
21:16.01nicoli_sPneumatus: yah pretty much, i still deserve muh points though
21:16.18nevcairielyou get your monthly pay for it!
21:16.23YivryFisker: i think its for people that often downgrade their badges to buy stuff :p
21:17.28Pneumatusaltoholic > emblemwatch
21:19.24olafskiwhat do they have to do with eachother?
21:19.32olafskiemblemwatch seems to do nothing with alts
21:19.34Yivryaltoholic is kinda bloated if you only want emblems dont you think :p
21:19.39Yivrythat too
21:19.39olafskiyer :P
21:19.45Fiskerthat's pretty easy Yivry
21:19.53Fiskeras many triumph badges as you got
21:19.59Yivrynot only that
21:20.04Fiskerbecause if you've not already used the others, then you don't deserve to
21:20.12Yivrybwahaha
21:20.23olafskiI just used up the 150 conquest badges I had left ,)
21:20.33Yivryi had 66 conquest left
21:20.39Yivryused them to buy more heirlooms :p
21:20.48Repo10spamalyzer: 03Torhal 07master * beta1-18-ga30b0e9 Spamalyzer.lua: [+4 commits]
21:20.50Repoa30b0e9: The sorted_data table now uses player names rather than a player's table, and is now automatically sorted whenever the tooltip is drawn.
21:20.51Repobc6e772: Made the data-wiping functionality be more thorough about its cleanup.
21:20.53Repo0c5435a: UpdateDataFeed() no longer takes a parameter.
21:20.54Repoffefe9a: Re-wrote the sort functions to check for ascending/descending - clicking a column in the tooltip now toggles between the two.
21:20.58olafski,)
21:21.00olafskiI bought a mammoth
21:21.09Pneumatusis that the new addonspamfu?
21:21.51TorhalPneumatus: It stomps it handily.
21:22.07Pneumatusi shall investigate later!
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21:23.11steevwhere do you buy the cold weather flying heirloom?
21:23.19olafskidalaran
21:23.19yoshimokrasus landing
21:23.22Yivrydala flight trainer
21:23.25olafskimaybe other places too I guess
21:23.27steevahh
21:24.47pompy--name-- suffers 11988 Shadow damage from --name-- Corruption.(72300029 Resisted) (1359858600 Overkill) (Critical)
21:24.48pompy:O
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21:25.25Yivrylol?
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21:26.07yoshimoa mindcontrol with huge dmg boost?^
21:26.07olafskinice.. a human death knight called Rssfeed
21:26.21Fiskerslaps pompy around a bit with a large trout
21:26.43steevolafski: how... original
21:26.48yoshimoif you have 224kBit/s upstream available, how much do you need for wow from that?
21:27.01steevnot that i have much room to talk, what with my main's name being Steev and all that
21:27.14NeoTronnot very much?
21:27.27NeoTronoverall bandwidth use in WoW is really small I believe
21:27.43yoshimoi just tried the ts3 celt codec and together with wow it didnt work out^^
21:28.13durcynwow's fine on bandwidth, it just wrecks your cpu
21:29.03NeoTronman someone sold the blue proto drake for 1500 gold.
21:29.15Gnarfozyoshimo: that *should* work out normally oO (20kb/s + 5kb/s ~)
21:29.19Yivryonly 1500?
21:29.25steevits boe?
21:29.27genetik-NeoTron: how'd they do that?
21:29.28NeoTronindeed. it's a rather trivial amount
21:29.36NeoTronit's BoP but.. BoP items are tradable to the group
21:29.47genetik-oh, not the one from occulus?
21:29.51Gnarfozhowever, I'd still like to see CELT more adjustable in TS3... Mumble uses it for everything now and they have it all adjustable :\
21:29.51NeoTronUP
21:29.55genetik-ah, right
21:29.57NeoTronthe blue proto drake
21:30.08genetik-gotcha.. mis-read
21:30.39yoshimognarfoz, i see problems with celt on ts3 if i set the channel to max quality and people have low upstream like this stupid dsl light the german telecom sells
21:31.17Gnarfozyoshimo: I'm perfectly aware, I'm stuck on T-Home DSL6R
21:31.23Gnarfozwhich is... pay for 6M, get 3M/192k
21:31.26steev*sigh*
21:31.37steevtankspot's comments are starting to become youtube comments
21:31.39yoshimor= reduced?^^
21:31.49steev"But then again, this is a normal mode boss fight and the first one of the wing halfway the instance. Cant expect anything else rly"
21:31.51yoshimosteev, you mean non sense?
21:32.08Gnarfozyoshimo: it actually has a meaning,  I just don't recall it right now
21:32.19steevyoshimo: i mean utterly fucking useless
21:32.26Gnarfozalso, halp
21:32.38GnarfozI just move this channel into its own window (X-Chat)
21:32.40Gnarfozhow do I undo ;X
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21:33.34Gnarfozahh ctrl+i
21:33.43NeoTronso you have ~65% chnce of getting a green proto drake in a year
21:33.53NeoTronI got two in significantly less time than that (different chars) :)
21:34.00olafski,)
21:34.02NeoTronflipside is I never saw a blue proto drake
21:34.07Pneumatusive been doing eggs every week since about the 6th week of the expansion
21:34.09olafskigot 3 on 2 chars in the first 2 months :P
21:34.14Pneumatusand havnt had a single one :<
21:34.19steevNeoTron: i've gotten the drake from oculus on 4 out of 5 80s already
21:34.20Gnarfozyoshimo: lol @ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=2lr&q=telekom+dsl6r&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=
21:34.22NeoTronrandom is random!
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21:34.47olafskisteev: oO you must do a lot of heroics
21:34.53olafskior just get lucky with getting oculus every day ;0
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21:36.02NivFreakis it the blue proto, or is it the malygos mount?
21:36.17yoshimoolafski, you WILL get oculus everyday^^
21:36.23yoshimomalygos 10 i think
21:36.34olafskihow so yoshimo?
21:36.57steevNivFreak: its not a proto, just a drake
21:36.58olafskican't guarantee that unless you do X heroics every day (where X is the number of heroics that exists) on 1 char
21:37.00Gnarfozyoshimo: ah, it's DSL 6000 (3072 R), actually. still means the same... "get fucked"
21:37.17steevmaly 10 is azure
21:37.27steevnot sure how the shade difference is but meh
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21:37.44steevolafski: i definitely do quite a bit of heroics
21:38.01steevneed 25 primo saronite (i'll have 11 tomorrow)
21:38.02NeoTronI saw the malygos one drop once
21:38.06NeoTronI need a nicer mount for my shaman
21:38.17Gnarfozazure (then: maly25, now, both 10/25) is the best looking drake mount imho
21:38.24Gnarfoz(that is... drake, not proto)
21:38.26NeoTronpreferably, of course, a proto mount but they are either hard (achievements that I have no intention of doing) or random (blue/green)
21:38.36NeoTronI like the twilight one
21:38.48NeoTronI guess that's something you could do - quick 3 drake kills :P
21:38.50Gnarfoztoo untextured :\
21:39.15olafskisteev: ah, but that's only one heroic per char.. quite lucky :)
21:39.28olafskiI've started doing heroics on one alt too to get primo saronite, just to auction it
21:39.42olafskiwon't your guild loan you any saronite?
21:39.59steevolafski: 3 of 6 can tank, of the remaining 3, 2 can heal
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21:40.22NeoTronyou know a bug is great when he dies twice on the mounted section of the first ToC fight.. in normal mode
21:40.23steevi spend very little time in the queue waiting unless i actually want to
21:40.31NeoTrononce because he didn't mount up, once from a mount
21:41.17olafskisteev: :)
21:41.28olafskiI have 3 lvl 80 tanks and 1 lvl 80 healer.. 2 pure dps
21:43.18olafskiI usually only do 1 heroic with my DK and sometimes with my paladin as well
21:43.55steevolafski: no they won't loan any - i sold 1 primordial saronite at the very beginning so "if you can afford to sell them..."
21:44.07steevwhich is fine really
21:44.08SunTsuwow, after upgrading my workstation WoW runs that smooth, great
21:45.02Fiskerslaps steev around a bit with a large trout
21:45.08Fiskerhow unfortunate
21:45.33Pneumatushow do you lot deal with airphase coninciding with bites now they changed the timers on BQL 25man?
21:45.52olafskilol steev :P
21:45.59olafskisteev: I hope someone else is getting the axe atm then
21:46.03olafskielse it would be a waste of kills :(
21:46.56olafskidamn I'm lvl 60 and I still want to do 5 vanilla instances at least once before i continue
21:47.01NeoTronPneumatus: badly? :P
21:47.15Pneumatusour lot are failing hard
21:47.21Pneumatusi guess you need to bite as soon as it lights up now
21:47.32NeoTronyes. fear ward might help
21:47.51Pneumatusim using my own fear ward so i can keep people alive, as are our other priests
21:48.00NeoTronI had it once (I'm a warlock, only reason I had it was because I forgot my teleport in the center and won burst dps) and it lit up right as I was feared but I managed to makei t back for the kill
21:48.04NeoTrons/kill/bite/
21:48.05NeoTron:)
21:48.22Pneumatuswill she ever bite a healer first?
21:48.24NeoTronI think it's more important to fearward the biters since a mind control = wipe
21:48.30NeoTronit's threat based so unlikely
21:48.48durcynthere's a wol parse floating around with a holy paladin getting it first
21:48.54durcynbecause they were using a shitty undergeared warrior tank
21:49.55NeoTronok if your tanks are taking an excessive amount of damage, sure :P
21:50.17NeoTronMy favorite attempt was when I ran in as usual, put my teleporter down and go to my spot and then fall over dead
21:50.30NeoTrondue to an initial dps aggro I ended up with blood mirror
21:55.04Yivrymeh I wish the forums were more active, so I had something to do :p
22:00.19TorhalVilkku: Which forums?
22:00.35sb|workfucking fuck boss
22:00.35sb|workdown
22:00.37sb|workputricide
22:00.38sb|workdamn :)
22:00.55sb|worksucks with 5 healers :o
22:00.56VilkkuTorhal: highlightfail?
22:01.13TorhalVilkku: Indeed
22:01.22steevolafski: actually there's a dk with shadow's edge in our guild already - and 2 other people working on it
22:01.24TorhalYivry: ^
22:01.31olafskisteev: ah, ok :)
22:01.41YivryI ment wowace forums :p
22:02.00steevolafski: he's got ~600 kills so far
22:02.19steevhe had it first night it was available - i should have it within the next 2 weeks or so
22:03.01steevone of the people who are working on it has like 8 alts, and so does his gf and they are working on getting the saronite together (without buying any)
22:04.27Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-13-g507e553 modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed range checker not working
22:06.08NeoTronspeaking of range checker - it's funny how it doesn't work in the vampire room at all
22:06.19NeoTronor rather it removes people based on how close they are but actual distance isn't shown
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22:18.02Funkeh`well this rocks
22:18.13Funkeh`had 100fps in coliseum with ultra settings
22:18.22Funkeh`25man
22:19.14Stanzillahow?
22:19.18Funkeh`<3 ati
22:19.24Funkeh`affordable powerful cards
22:19.33Funkeh`5770
22:19.45asmodairofl:
22:19.47asmodaiThere are differences in how tanks generate AE threat, and therefore damage. Warriors are jealous of the DK and especially paladin persistent area-based damage, and the others are jealous of the warrior's burst AE threat on incoming adds. Druids are jealous of anyone with more than one button.
22:20.21Funkeh`+amd phenom2 X4
22:20.54GnarfozFunkeh`: huh? 5870 you mean?
22:20.59Funkeh`no...
22:21.06Funkeh`hows that an affordable card
22:21.09Gnarfozhmm
22:21.15Gnarfozgood point, but wow is not gpu bound anyway
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22:21.26Gnarfozso that cpu of yours has high clock speed?
22:21.30Funkeh`hence the x4 :P
22:21.44Funkeh`3k
22:22.11Gnarfozeh?
22:22.18Gnarfozx4 is for cores, not clock speed, I take it?
22:22.27Funkeh`3k mhz/3ghz
22:22.39Gnarfozwell, hm.
22:22.47Gnarfozthat's just 333 MHz more than mine
22:22.51Funkeh`but my old p4 was 3k too
22:23.06Gnarfozand WoW fps litteraly blows in 25mans
22:23.19Funkeh`what card?
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22:23.27Gnarfoz8800GTX
22:23.29steevme too, but i only have a 9600gt
22:23.34Funkeh`well
22:23.37HjalteIs XAMPP still the best all-in-one package for local web-development?
22:23.40Gnarfozbut then, wow doesn't use 1/3 of what that card can do
22:23.41Funkeh`the 5770 has a gig of gddr5
22:23.45Funkeh`probably helps a lot
22:23.51GnarfozI have 768mb of GDDR3 :
22:23.52Gnarfoz:\
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22:24.07Funkeh`hmm
22:24.08Gnarfozwhat can be in vram in a raid zone, should be in that ram already =\
22:24.21GnarfozI bet it's my shitty mods.
22:24.22Funkeh`what instance re you comparing it too though
22:24.27Funkeh`i havent tried citadel yet
22:24.31Gnarfozcomparing? not sure, all of them? :P
22:24.36Funkeh`has a lot more to process that coliseum
22:24.40Funkeh`small room etc
22:24.48GnarfozI've not seen better FPS in 25man coliseum than in 25man ulduar
22:24.53Gnarfozz-culling and so on
22:25.02Funkeh`really?
22:25.10Gnarfozabsolutely
22:25.24Funkeh`i just would have though with processing more distance etc
22:25.26GnarfozI'm totally CPU bound, I could turn resolution down to 800x600 and not gain much fps
22:25.44Gnarfozhow "new" is phenom2?
22:25.57Gnarfozbecause core2duo certainly isn't "new" anymore today
22:26.12Gnarfozthe difference shouldn't be that big, though :(
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22:26.23Funkeh`i think its only 2 or 3 months
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22:27.10GnarfozI should do a 25man week while reliquishing raid leading duties
22:27.17Gnarfozso I can play with default UI, to compare.
22:27.25Gnarfoz(not that I'd look forward to that, ugggghh)
22:28.09Funkeh`35fps in dalaran wiht max
22:28.15Funkeh`i guess thats more than i can ask for
22:30.15Funkeh`i wish the blizzard downloader would patch to 3.3 though
22:30.21Funkeh`i made my raid with 1 minute to spare
22:30.37Funkeh`my cd had a scratch on it so had to use the online installer, which goes from v0-3.0
22:30.44Funkeh`then you have to go from there
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22:33.11durcynat least the new launcher chains the patches through instead of forcing you to log in for each
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22:34.01Pneumatusit downloads them to the WoW folder though, not public/documents :<
22:35.03asmodaiWhich is nice, saves less time pulling everything together for a backup copy
22:35.18asmodaierr, saves time
22:35.19Pneumatusit would be ok if patches consistantly got dropped there
22:35.21Pneumatusbut they dont
22:35.40Pneumatusthey end up in either the WoW folder, or public/documents
22:37.29SunTsuFunkeh`: which phenom do you own?
22:37.59Funkeh`545 i think
22:38.26Funkeh`or 945
22:38.29Funkeh`one or the other
22:38.41SunTsuthe later one seems to be more likely
22:38.53SunTsuI just updated to Phenom 965 and it rocks
22:41.30Funkeh`btw
22:41.37Funkeh`turning off shadows still gets you like 30fps
22:41.42Funkeh`and the game looks better
22:41.47Funkeh`shadows are just ugly in wow
22:42.05SunTsuthey don't work with -opengl anyway
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22:49.51steevFunkeh`: whats the option to guarantee they are off in the config.wtf?
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23:04.35yoshimowhat should i do if  i have an exe that i suspect to be 99,99% malicious software but my antivirus tells me it is clean?
23:04.58PProvostScan it with another one
23:05.07SunTsuyoshimo: crap it
23:05.24PProvostOr that. :)
23:05.41Yivryhas anyone made a just for fun blackjack against cpu addon already? or is that somehow against rules/regulations?
23:06.06PProvostBejeweled wasn't against regs, was it?
23:06.33Yivrybejeweled isnt considered gambling while blackjack might be, i guess
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23:06.58Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7097 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories):
23:07.01RepoCitadel/Lanathel: Add slash for tanking purposes. deDE update.
23:07.03yoshimodont the av producers have some mailaddress where you can send suspicious files? i remember there was something
23:08.19PProvosthttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=submit+suspicious+malware
23:08.23ArrowmasterClasscheck it with virustotal.com
23:09.29NeoTronI love virustotal.com... the wowace update worm
23:09.52NeoTronthat was detected by like 20 different software, and yet passed the "virus checks" on the upload... :P
23:10.09yoshimowowace update worm?^^
23:10.42NeoTronyep
23:10.56NeoTronsomeone posed a wow ace updated after it had been discontinued
23:11.29ArrowmasterClassthe incgamers sites 'virus checks'?
23:11.39NeoTronyeah
23:11.41Funkeh`yoshimo, virustotal.com
23:13.14Funkeh`yoshimo, https://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Submission/Submit.aspx they tend to forward samples to third parties
23:13.36yoshimobeen there done that, just 5/41 avs marked it suspicious, im currently  uploading it to some submission pages of av programs
23:14.09Funkeh`which ones
23:15.00yoshimohttp://www.rokop-security.de/index.php?showtopic=17635
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23:15.58onaforeignshoreis there any way to access the information in the Guild -> Guild Information -> Log screen programatically?
23:16.56yoshimoFunkeh`, its the file from the curse spam, up to 7/41 nowhttps://www.virustotal.com/de/analisis/28c1be788bc3bcf75012133a0eb782b4682492c147530d6604a522cd2f07bf2b-1264262462
23:17.18pompyonaforeignshore: dont think so, its crap anyway.. most of the time it says "x has removed from guild" ..
23:17.37yoshimosubmitting their website to phishtank wont help, those users will mark it invalid, for sure^^
23:18.03Funkeh`it's not a phising site so no
23:18.42Funkeh`yeah microsoft detects it <3 mse
23:18.45Funkeh`screw paying for av
23:18.49Pneumatus1% wipes on BQL make me :sadpanda:
23:18.57Funkeh`:<
23:19.21yoshimoits fishing for your wow account, doesnt that count?^^
23:19.30Funkeh`we 1%'d on festergut a lot, was lots of drama replacing the casters that a wow version of viagra
23:19.42Funkeh`that need*
23:19.50Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1240 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added 20% speed increase for Blade Flurry
23:20.12yoshimofunky, many big antivirus programs dont detect it, and i thought it was worth the money^^
23:20.31Funkeh`yoshimo, i think most people tend to use whats big in their country tbh
23:25.02Fiskerwhat do people use AV for anyway?
23:25.55arkanesanyone have a suggestion for a viewport addon? Don't need anything else, just the viewport
23:35.13Gagorianhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dr-damage.aspx#660630
23:35.19GagorianCan any rogue check that out?
23:36.27durcynarkanes: http://www.wowace.com/addons/viewporter/
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23:43.12FiskerWobin's durcyn in the yoshimo
23:43.38Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r285 / (5 files in 4 directories): fix a few things and enable tomQuest2 option panel
23:49.15orionshockwhy is it that people always forget MovePad?
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23:49.49orionshockIt is the one and only "addon" ever made by blizzard...
23:50.23Fiskerold orionshock
23:50.30hasteis it even updated?
23:50.37Fiskeryour mom is updated haste
23:50.46orionshocknot since 2.0, but works still on live
23:51.10hasteah, thought it actually broke, but guess I was wrong :)
23:51.33orionshockdid back in 2.0 but was fixed on the next patch
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