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00:01.56 | Nechckn | Downgrade to 3.5 version, yoshimo |
00:02.56 | yoshimo | ah ok, was wondering why it didnt sell any more |
00:05.12 | Nechckn | Go vote - http://www.wowace.com/addons/dropthecheapestthing/tickets/5-error-with-autosell-in-any-version-past-3-5/ =) |
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00:06.52 | yoshimo | been there done that ^^ |
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00:08.09 | Nechckn | What you could try would be to rename any settings file under WTF |
00:08.28 | Nechckn | Then try the "new" one and see if it works |
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00:09.00 | Nechckn | Since there is some reason why there are a few folks seeing the issue, but most, apparently, do not. |
00:09.17 | Nechckn | Either way, up to you if it works, it works. |
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00:27.28 | BWMerlin | When ever I go to curse and browse the addons and see a spam message in the comments i report it and get an email when someone at curse deletes the spam but today i woke up with a tone of emails from addons that I never visited and reported spam |
00:27.32 | BWMerlin | anyone know why? |
00:32.57 | Nechckn | Is it for the same person's name? |
00:33.27 | Nechckn | you know, like you reported Joe for spam on one - but you see them for all the AddOns where Joe posted his crap? |
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00:38.36 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1207 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Updated base value retrieval script |
00:38.38 | Repo | - Fixed Paladin base healing/damage increase values |
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00:51.09 | BWMerlin | Nechckn: it does seem that way |
01:07.32 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r102 ChocolateBar (4 files in 3 directories): added option to set the icon size. |
01:07.50 | Repo | fixed options do not open with healbot installed, ticket #30 |
01:10.29 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Holy Light +5, but r8 +6, r11 +4 |
01:10.47 | Shadowed | Level difference before it downranks Gagorian ? |
01:11.00 | Gagorian | This is about as fun as pouring salt in my eye.. on top of that I had to spam with a prot pally :D |
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01:11.29 | Shadowed | hahah |
01:11.32 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Aye. Using the (22 + spellLevel + value - level)/20 formula |
01:11.39 | Gagorian | value being the values I've given you |
01:11.39 | Shadowed | huh |
01:11.44 | Shadowed | That's fun |
01:11.49 | Shadowed | s/fun/"fun" |
01:13.02 | Gagorian | There doesn't seem to be any real easy way to do it except just spam every rank, since there seems to be exceptions in most spells |
01:16.51 | Gagorian | Are you planning on implementing the rank specific thingies into LHC? |
01:18.26 | WobWork | Gagorian: So why -are- you researching it? =) |
01:18.32 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1208 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added Flash of Light and Holy Light downrank modifiers |
01:18.50 | Gagorian | WobWork: Because I'm a masochist |
01:18.57 | WobWork | oh |
01:18.59 | WobWork | well, carry on |
01:19.10 | WobWork | and make sure you wipe down the channel when you're done |
01:19.11 | Gagorian | I didn't plan on doing so but seems like I enjoy the suffering cause I can't stop |
01:19.50 | Gagorian | .. That's the problem with doing this, I can't stop until something is exactly correct :P |
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01:55.46 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1209 Data (5 files in 1 directory): - 4p T10 Moonkin ticks 2 times |
01:55.48 | Repo | - 4p T9 Elemental ticks 3 times |
01:55.59 | Shadowed | Gagorian: Not sure yet |
01:56.16 | Shadowed | At a certain point, I should |
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02:11.00 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r103 / (2 files in 2 directories): added limit for manual entry's to the icon size option |
02:24.18 | Repo | 10stack-watch: 03raegx * r12 core.lua: StackWatch: |
02:24.20 | Repo | -Changed default watch and enabled status |
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02:40.21 | Repo | 10stack-watch: 03raegx * r13 StackWatch.toc: StackWatch: |
02:40.23 | Repo | -toc update, missed from last commit |
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03:11.38 | Repo | 10stack-watch: 03raegx 04v1.2 * r15 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
03:11.40 | Repo | StackWatch: |
03:11.42 | Repo | -toc update |
03:11.42 | Repo | -added ability to modify notification message |
03:11.44 | Repo | -removed slash command |
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03:15.44 | digmouse | my chatzilla channel tabs are gone :( |
03:18.06 | quiescens | ): |
03:18.13 | quiescens | /pat |
03:28.27 | steev | woot! |
03:28.31 | steev | i won the blood |
03:28.40 | steev | also, hit exalted so yay |
03:29.08 | Silowyi | can elitistgroup tell if someone is below the crit cap for defense? |
03:29.25 | Shadowed | no, stat scanning is too much of a bitch |
03:29.31 | Silowyi | hmm |
03:29.50 | WobWork | Shadowed: I would totally love that =( |
03:29.50 | Silowyi | was trying to figure out why this tank's damage profile was like 4k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 20k, 4k,... |
03:29.57 | WobWork | Shadowed: even if it were a module |
03:30.13 | Shadowed | WobWork: Eh I have other priorities :p |
03:30.25 | Shadowed | If I do it, I'll just write my own module for it |
03:30.30 | Shadowed | er tooltip scanning library |
03:30.31 | Silowyi | so I'm healing this DK in pit of saron, and he's taking around 3k-4k HPS to keep up |
03:30.41 | WobWork | is he in frost presence? =) |
03:30.42 | Shadowed | Cause the ones that are currently out there aren't very good from what i remember |
03:30.48 | Silowyi | so I checked and he wasn't using death strike. |
03:30.54 | WobWork | well, that's fine |
03:30.56 | Shadowed | What really sucks about checking crit cap, are talents |
03:31.00 | WobWork | if I'm a frost tank, I hardly use it |
03:31.04 | Shadowed | @project ratingbuster |
03:31.05 | WobWork | unless the healer is otherwise occupied |
03:31.05 | Repo | Shadowed: No project found that matches 'ratingbuster' |
03:31.10 | Shadowed | @project rating-buster |
03:31.11 | Repo | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rating-buster/. RatingBuster. Game: WoW. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 days ago. Tickets: 16/73 |
03:31.14 | Silowyi | I asked him to use death strike to heal himself occasionally, and man... you would have thought I insulted his mom |
03:31.24 | Shadowed | Cause it means a lot more extra junk to keep track of |
03:31.33 | WobWork | MY MOTHER WAS A DEATH-STRIKE YOU INSENSITIVE BASTARD |
03:32.15 | Shadowed | Erk yea, LibStatLogic-1.1 does way too much |
03:32.19 | Silowyi | sorry but when 4k HPS is required to keep your ass alive in any five man you're not a good tank :P |
03:32.39 | WobWork | Silowyi: oh I know =) |
03:32.53 | WobWork | my main is resto shammy |
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03:34.13 | Silowyi | he was tanking as unholy though too |
03:34.43 | Silowyi | not going to say that's good or bad, just that it's very unusual |
03:35.54 | Silowyi | ah yeah, he's not defense capped |
03:36.01 | Silowyi | rolls eyes |
03:36.29 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: i would guess that the new item stats commands, although flakey and dont work on everything, would atleast catch all defense since it always shows up the exact same way |
03:36.48 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: The stats command doesn't catch enchants and such I believe? |
03:36.59 | Arrowmaster | no clue about that |
03:37.09 | Shadowed | Think I have a defense chant lesse |
03:37.22 | Bruners | who of you are good with shell scripts |
03:37.34 | Arrowmaster | hides |
03:37.36 | Shadowed | Yea not defense |
03:37.50 | Shadowed | er not enchants |
03:37.59 | Shadowed | So not very useful |
03:38.21 | Shadowed | I could probably write a very generic parser that just looks at defense, but eh |
03:38.46 | Silowyi | I really don't understand why someone's paperdoll stats aren't available when inspecting them |
03:39.01 | Shadowed | More data to send that they don't need to |
03:39.23 | Silowyi | I guess so |
03:39.28 | Shadowed | They already optimized out sending gems so |
03:39.36 | Silowyi | but it seems since they send the talents and the gear and the enchants, et. al. it should be easy |
03:39.47 | Shadowed | they aren't directly |
03:39.54 | Shadowed | Gems get sent after you request an inspect, as do talents |
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03:40.03 | Silowyi | hmm |
03:40.03 | Shadowed | enchants and itemid are the only thing they send all the time |
03:40.05 | Bruners | so, im trying to write a script to adjust my fanspeed, http://www.pastey.net/131787 the aliases work but are kinda lame, when i try to run my fanspeed i get the error at the bottom, fix plx |
03:40.29 | Silowyi | Shadowed: I meant on inspection though :) I'm not sure why the default UI doesn't have paperdoll stats on inspection |
03:40.39 | Silowyi | unless they just don't want to make it easy for pvp or something |
03:40.42 | Shadowed | Probably don't care enough to add it |
03:40.48 | Shadowed | You can't inspect enemies who are flgged |
03:40.51 | Silowyi | possibly |
03:40.51 | Shadowed | so no PVP issues |
03:40.59 | WobWork | probably arena =P |
03:41.02 | Arrowmaster | enchants and gems are a part of the itemlink so its always correct, although the tooltip displaying things like sets and metagems is iffy |
03:41.28 | Silowyi | I keep waiting for WoW to put some sort of armory interface into the game |
03:41.29 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: No, gems are not always correct :p |
03:41.48 | Arrowmaster | except for the minor race condition they are |
03:41.59 | Shadowed | not a minor race condition I assure you |
03:42.06 | Shadowed | The client has the itemid and enchants immediately on NotifyInspect, it takes 0.10s-1s for gems to be "sent" |
03:42.36 | Shadowed | It actually likely is being sent, since calling NotifyInspect twice immediately doesn't fix it |
03:42.51 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: i dont think you need the \'s before the "'s in the function |
03:43.20 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: ok then thats just fucked up |
03:43.24 | Shadowed | it is! |
03:43.34 | Shadowed | It's quite fun to handle, they don't give any events when gem data is available so you poll and pray |
03:43.42 | Arrowmaster | i guess maybe the client already knows about the items because it has to show the models |
03:43.50 | Shadowed | and enchants cause it has to show the glow |
03:44.02 | Shadowed | I think it was the Examiner author who said they used to send gems immediately, then stopped in 3.1 |
03:44.36 | Silowyi | I just wish they'd put in a fix for raid buff events when two classes are bringing the same buff/aura/totem |
03:45.09 | Silowyi | I think that's what's killing me in Icecrown. |
03:45.40 | Silowyi | (though at this point I really don't know since I've replaced the entire computer, every addon, deleted cache, etc...) |
03:45.47 | Silowyi | even my router >.> |
03:49.27 | Ingela | ZzzZZ mining is the worst |
03:49.30 | Gnarfoz | Silowyi: I don't think that ever stopped being a problem, it all started when they consolidated the buffs :\ |
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03:50.35 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1210 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
03:50.37 | Repo | - Modified base damage/heal increase formula to fit the new method (Something like this was actually in place earlier, then Blizzard changed it and now changed it back to what it was) |
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03:53.52 | Silowyi | Gnarfoz: Well it really sucks when a computer that bottoms out at 45 FPS outside the eventide bank in Dalaran during prime time at max graphics has stuttering so bad that Icecrown 25 man is unplayable. |
03:54.13 | Gnarfoz | I've not reached "unplayable", yet, but the difference is stupid |
03:54.26 | Gnarfoz | definitely "unable to use fraps" :( |
03:54.38 | Silowyi | Gnarfoz: especially when I can delete all my addons and set the graphics to 800x600 at full "performance" mode and only notice about a 5 FPS increase :P |
03:55.22 | Rayden | why is a character name unavailable, but it doesn't show up on the armory? |
03:55.30 | Silowyi | Rayden: only lvl 10+ show up in armory |
03:55.37 | Rayden | boo |
03:55.40 | Rayden | no Volksworgen for me |
03:55.56 | Silowyi | Rayden: placeholding for Cata? |
03:56.04 | Rayden | sort of |
03:56.21 | Rayden | i have no intention of rolling a worgen as it would have to be alliance |
03:56.23 | Rayden | but i like the name |
03:56.24 | Rayden | :P |
03:56.35 | Silowyi | PC wants to restart for windows update... so yeah... |
03:56.41 | Silowyi | bbl8r |
03:56.52 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: meh, for some reason my file didn't get sourced after i had edited |
03:57.10 | Arrowmaster | what is it? |
03:57.27 | Arrowmaster | part of your .bashrc or something? |
03:57.28 | Bruners | worked with ' ' instead of \" \" |
03:57.54 | Bruners | i sourced .zshrc which loads my alias.rc |
03:58.17 | Arrowmaster | oh zsh |
03:58.45 | Arrowmaster | i was going to say i was fairly certain if [ $1 ] ; was wrong for bash and sh |
04:00.02 | Bruners | stupid auto shit on the aticard has the card running on 80C |
04:00.31 | Bruners | had the same problem in windows |
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04:02.38 | Arrowmaster | idle or under load? |
04:03.02 | Bruners | idle |
04:03.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
04:03.34 | Bruners | the power of ati |
04:03.55 | Arrowmaster | my nvidia is like 52C right now with it automatically set to 40% fan speed |
04:04.57 | Bruners | 54C here now at 40% |
04:04.57 | Funkeh` | sounds like your card is fucked |
04:05.12 | Funkeh` | it's supposed to clock down the core clock, not just the fan |
04:05.14 | Bruners | sounds like the auto shit is fucked |
04:05.22 | Funkeh` | what card are you running |
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04:05.27 | Bruners | hd4870 |
04:05.41 | Bruners | have read million posts about people having the same issues |
04:05.52 | Funkeh` | :< |
04:06.06 | Funkeh` | hope it's fixed in 5x since i have a 5770 on order |
04:06.12 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: except the clocking down never works anymore now that desktop environments are 3d accelerated, mines currently in its middle setting but often its fully clocked |
04:06.17 | Funkeh` | Cosindering that's a boasted feature |
04:06.20 | Bruners | was a pain in the ass before they added manual fan control in the drivers |
04:06.29 | Bruners | had to make profiles and load them each time i booted |
04:07.10 | Bruners | it does kill X if i forgot to turn up the fan :P |
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04:07.18 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, I don't know much about nV but the 5x series was supposed to clock to usage iirc |
04:07.29 | Funkeh` | Ati 5x |
04:07.34 | Bruners | 5x are better than 4x |
04:07.41 | Bruners | uses far less power |
04:07.42 | Funkeh` | i fucking hope so :D |
04:07.44 | Zernin | anyone know of a library that will let me look up an item source by itemID (or name, if neccecary) |
04:07.47 | Arrowmaster | mine just jumped to fully clock |
04:08.25 | Arrowmaster | its got 3 levels for gpu/memory 300/100 400/300 648/1188 |
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04:12.12 | digmouse | Bruners: try ATI tray Tools if you are using a AMD card |
04:12.47 | digmouse | and I'm using the EVGA freq tool for my Zotac GTX260 |
04:13.07 | Bruners | iirc thats a windows tool ? |
04:16.00 | Bruners | if anyone care my completed script http://www.pastey.net/131788 |
04:16.24 | pompy | gg blizz, http://worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/22748795501-blood-queen-25-despawned.html |
04:17.18 | quiescens | you're clearly supposed to kill both of them in one sitting |
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04:20.24 | quiescens | you may as well go and make a background thingy to try to keep the temperature where you want it |
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04:31.37 | steev | rofl! |
04:31.51 | steev | one of our rogues used killing spree on the Val'kyr Herald |
04:31.58 | steev | and fell down the hole |
04:35.05 | Bruners | did this guy just post his password to the internet? http://github.com/jhelwig/rc-files/blob/master/gitconfig#L41 |
04:36.33 | steev | ouch! |
04:37.31 | steev | Bruners: i'm not gonna find out |
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04:39.59 | WobWork | Bruners: oh dear |
04:44.21 | arkanes | so we switched from 3 tanks to 2 tanks for princes |
04:44.25 | arkanes | and omg it is so much smoother |
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05:34.15 | quiescens | o.o |
05:45.56 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03tatechen * r274 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: Traditional-Chinese update |
05:47.46 | Primer | Anyone know if it's possible to make a /castsequence that doesn't care if one of the casts is on cooldown? |
05:48.08 | Primer | and will just cast them in sequence regardless? |
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05:52.07 | quiescens | castsequence will always stop if a spell fails to cast |
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06:05.47 | Primer | that sucks |
06:06.21 | Primer | there needs to be an option to allow that |
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06:12.40 | quiescens | its presumably intentional |
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06:31.57 | Repo | ba65b29: Added .pkgmeta |
06:31.58 | Repo | 7e8e275: Initial commit, everything seems to be working |
06:32.06 | Repo | 10elitistgroupsender: 03Shadowed 04v1.0 * f0d6660 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.0 |
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06:36.47 | asmodai | And here I was wondering about any EG updates from Shadowed ;) |
06:36.55 | Shadowed | That's not really an EG update |
06:37.10 | Shadowed | that's just so people can still take advantage of the main or remote requests without running the full client |
06:37.24 | Shadowed | Which happens to fall into a feature I'll be adding next to EG |
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06:46.27 | asmodai | Shadowed: But still, you got an update ready every wrt SUF or EG ^^ |
06:46.51 | Shadowed | EG will slow down a bit at this point |
06:47.03 | Shadowed | Shouldn't be tagging new releases daily anymore |
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06:50.25 | sylvanaar | good morning |
06:54.42 | asmodai | morning syl :) |
06:54.44 | asmodai | Shadowed: heheeh |
06:57.03 | asmodai | It's stable! Ship it. |
06:58.49 | orionshock | good morning all |
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06:59.29 | orionshock | @describe elitistgroupsender |
06:59.30 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroupsender/. ElitistGroupSender. Simple addon that sends EG gear/main data without running the full client |
07:01.32 | Repo | 10lockdots: 03Xocide 07master * 0ff610c / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
07:01.33 | Repo | 0ff610c: More things to do with the options. |
07:01.34 | Repo | 98e63ec: More options stuff... |
07:01.35 | Repo | 4cc90a2: Started on the options stuff... |
07:04.53 | Repo | 10lockdots: 03Xocide 04v0.1 * e28722d /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1 |
07:05.39 | asmodai | goes to the salt mines |
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07:26.17 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.6.1-3-g8d95253 modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added /eg reset, will reset all user data and notes, not listed in /eg help right now |
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07:40.48 | Repo | 10spamalyzer (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * ec27e3e / (15 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] Mostly the skeleton of an AddOn, though configuration and localization layout is mostly complete and working. |
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08:00.48 | Shadowed | @describe spamalyzer |
08:01.58 | Arrowmaster | its 3am |
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08:02.36 | Arrowmaster | try now |
08:03.20 | Shadowed | oh hah repo had just left |
08:03.26 | Shadowed | @describe spamalyzer |
08:03.36 | Shadowed | oh well |
08:03.39 | Shadowed | goes off to sleep |
08:03.59 | Arrowmaster | yes the server reboots every day at 3am eastern |
08:04.03 | Shadowed | ahhh |
08:04.33 | Arrowmaster | because kaelten bandaided it instead of fixing the real problem |
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08:11.24 | mitch0 | didum |
08:11.59 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r321 modules/StatusAuras.lua: Initialize Aura texture for "missing" aura status. |
08:12.02 | Repo | Fix Ticket-83 |
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08:16.11 | digmouse | Repo ++ Recently Bandaged |
08:16.13 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r322 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update deDE. Thanks Vilogity (Ticket-84) |
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08:19.44 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: At least it takes away the pain of the weekend for now ;) |
08:20.41 | nevcairiel | it finds other reasons to break on weekends ;) |
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08:21.11 | orionshock | what's expertise cap? |
08:22.59 | nevcairiel | tank or dps? |
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08:25.12 | nevcairiel | the soft-cap for dodge is 26 expertise, iirc .. thats 214 rating, or so |
08:26.01 | nevcairiel | that is 6.5% |
08:26.12 | nevcairiel | parry is 14%, or 56, or 460 rating |
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08:36.39 | orionshock | nevcairiel, for dps |
08:37.43 | nevcairiel | the softcap then |
08:40.37 | orionshock | 25 will do :) |
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08:46.07 | Torhal | Meh. Yet another project-to-be nuked because it's designed for a private server. |
08:46.58 | Bruners | how do you know it's for a private server? |
08:47.02 | asmodai | Torhal: eh? |
08:47.21 | Torhal | "Neverendless Arena Unit Frames are unit frames designed to work on the Neverendless-WoW server." |
08:49.49 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroupsender/. ElitistGroupSender. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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08:50.40 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/. SmartRes2. myrroddin (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
08:50.45 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/epgpreserves/. EPGPreserves. felsir (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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09:04.00 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r323 Options/GridMedia.lua: Fix SharedMedia handling. |
09:04.02 | Repo | Fixes Ticket-80 adn Ticket-39 |
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09:05.17 | Fisker | i'm fucking awesome Bruners |
09:05.28 | Bruners | Fisker: i know |
09:05.59 | asmodai | You are fucking 'awesome Bruners'? |
09:08.00 | Fisker | i may hate you |
09:08.46 | Fisker | but i soloed a 5-man quest |
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09:11.33 | nevcairiel | Shefki: did the reports of #132 with chinchilla disappear with the new texture? |
09:11.37 | mitch0 | idling in the nelf starter area again fisker? :P |
09:13.36 | Fisker | no? |
09:14.20 | mitch0 | I was trying to hint at your completing a 5-man lowbie quest with your 80 pala, but I guess it's too early for subtle jokes |
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09:14.53 | Fisker | i want to play mass effect 2 |
09:14.59 | Fisker | but it's huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueg |
09:16.18 | Groktar | mitch0s Fisker |
09:16.47 | asmodai | Fisker: What's that? Illegal acquisition? |
09:17.24 | nevcairiel | ~seen ethancentauri |
09:17.25 | purl | i haven't seen 'ethancentauri', nevcairiel |
09:17.36 | nevcairiel | ~seen ethancentaurai |
09:17.37 | purl | ethancentaurai <n=ethan@89.240.42.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 11h 26m 54s ago, saying: 'have I been made a moderator of Curse now? I ask as I've just received about 50 spam reports all at once :/'. |
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09:22.38 | Repo | 10minimapster: 03Ammo * r48 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
09:22.40 | Repo | - attempt to prevent #132 errors by using a better square mask |
09:22.41 | Repo | - toc to the hand |
09:22.54 | Repo | 10spamalyzer (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * 7e85bcc / (3 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
09:22.55 | Repo | 7e85bcc: Added plus/minus icons for the tooltip. |
09:22.56 | Repo | 7172dfa: Populated embeds.xml so the packaged AddOn will load properly. |
09:22.58 | Repo | 0413195: Updated DISPLAY_VALUES with new strings. |
09:22.59 | Repo | 70523cc: Added four more localization strings. |
09:24.06 | Fisker | naw asmodai |
09:24.09 | Fisker | completely legal |
09:24.47 | asmodai | Oh, US download? |
09:24.56 | asmodai | has his own preorder for next week or so |
09:27.02 | Kalroth | I'm sure Fisker is being sarcastic |
09:27.42 | asmodai | Kalroth: I hope not. |
09:27.47 | Kalroth | Considering it's not being released before the 26th |
09:27.55 | asmodai | Kalroth: I know. :) |
09:28.01 | asmodai | Good games need to be supported. |
09:28.27 | Kalroth | and Razor1911 released it yesterday, so :p |
09:28.38 | Kalroth | pirates being more efficient than the industry! |
09:30.58 | orionshock | this is f'ed up |
09:31.20 | orionshock | armory says it can export the calendar to google calendar, but it dosn't actually work |
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09:39.17 | orionshock | Shadowed, how does EG detect that a DK is a blood spec tank? |
09:40.03 | Repo | 10minimapster: 03Ammo 04r48-release * r49 : Tagging as r48-release |
09:40.08 | Torhal | orionshock: Methinks he went to bed. |
09:40.14 | orionshock | prolly |
09:40.39 | Bruners | a dk can tank in any spec really :P |
09:41.02 | orionshock | Bruners, yes, but specifically what does eg cue off for a blood spec tank |
09:41.17 | Kuosi | dk can tank in any spec and will equally suck in all of em |
09:41.44 | Fisker | you wouldn't call me a pirate Kalroth |
09:41.50 | Fisker | i hate libel |
09:41.53 | orionshock | Kuosi, none of that, there is plenty of hate but keep it on the blizz forums :P |
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09:42.47 | Kuosi | :D |
09:43.03 | asmodai | @project shadowedunitframes |
09:43.18 | Repo | asmodai: No project found that matches 'shadowedunitframes' |
09:43.43 | Torhal | !project shadowed-unit-frames |
09:43.48 | Torhal | @project shadowed-unit-frames |
09:43.50 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/. Shadowed Unit Frames. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 3/36 |
09:44.05 | asmodai | ah, dashes |
09:44.09 | asmodai | oh lord: |
09:44.11 | asmodai | Kinetic Bombs no longer aggro Blood Queen Lana’thel during the Blood Princes encounter. |
09:44.15 | asmodai | That would suck |
09:44.23 | asmodai | If you managed to pull her in too XD |
09:44.45 | orionshock | hehe |
09:44.51 | kandarz | fuck, 2h 53m remaining |
09:45.05 | orionshock | the servents before moroes used to aggro to the first boss in kara |
09:45.08 | orionshock | quite funny tbh |
09:45.13 | yoshimo | kinetic bombs are those used in the council encounter?^^ |
09:45.20 | asmodai | yea |
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09:45.35 | asmodai | So there you are beating one boss |
09:45.39 | asmodai | and another joins the fray! |
09:45.45 | asmodai | Woops, no more tanks |
09:45.52 | Kuosi | just the blood prince council is too trivial |
09:45.55 | Kuosi | need some challenge |
09:46.04 | yoshimo | well asmodai, you should get an achievement like earth&wind&fire for that ;) |
09:46.51 | Kuosi | could say you have decent raid dps if you did that! |
09:47.01 | asmodai | @project elitistgroup |
09:47.03 | Repo | asmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/. Elitist Group. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Maintainer). Updated: 2 hours ago. Tickets: 6/81 |
09:47.50 | kandarz | hey, is it possible to get an objects name for when you're looting it? for linking items in a chest or something. Would I have to monitor the tooltip |
09:49.18 | asmodai | We have announced our plans to add a rating system to the Battlegrounds to bring back much better rewards and premade teams for Cataclysm. |
09:50.15 | asmodai | kandarz: Can't do GetItemInfo() on the item in the loot frame? |
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09:50.25 | yoshimo | im waiting for this . I just dont see how that will work in alterac or ioc ;) |
09:51.56 | asmodai | I'm surprised how people made it through TBC respeccing and paying gold every time. I already find it annoying I cannot have a PvP spec next to my damage and healing specs for raids. >_< |
09:53.06 | yoshimo | well my bg spec is the same as for raids, holy. Which works quite well. The problem are those players which prefer to flame the bgchat instead of playing |
09:54.53 | asmodai | My talent spec would need some changes to become more viable in PvP |
09:55.55 | orionshock | people that respeced for pvp and raiding where idiot IMO |
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09:57.00 | orionshock | it kinda defeated the point of having a role in a group by respecing so much so often. |
09:57.36 | kandarz | asmodai: I'm looking for the name of the object looting from, not item names. Example: "Deathbringer's Cache", "Gunship Armory", etc |
09:57.38 | yoshimo | well, in my battlegroup, people thank you if you heal them as holy paladin... |
09:58.27 | yoshimo | I still think there should be some event telling you the source of the loot. It was even suggested in the UI forums i think |
09:59.00 | orionshock | kandarz, scan the tooltip constantly and when the LOOT_OPEN event fires grab the last known value, should be the object. |
09:59.59 | asmodai | kandarz: Ah sorry, misunderstood |
10:01.03 | kandarz | kinda pissed, world of raids featured an addon just like mine except worse, so now I feel like I should make it usable by others |
10:02.22 | asmodai | kandarz: Which is that? |
10:02.53 | kandarz | http://www.wowace.com/addons/loot-council/ http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/lootcouncil-lite/ |
10:03.07 | Fisker | kisses asmodai |
10:05.00 | kandarz | orionshock: which method would you suggest to go about monitoring the gametooltip? |
10:05.51 | orionshock | one of the cursor events |
10:06.09 | asmodai | Fisker: eep |
10:06.45 | Fisker | why? |
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10:09.47 | kandarz | would objects qualify as units to UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT? |
10:10.08 | asmodai | Fisker: I should ask you that! |
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10:14.27 | Fisker | stop lying to me asmodai |
10:15.54 | Bruners | kandarz: is it the same addon ? |
10:16.15 | Bruners | Fisker: do you play HoN? |
10:16.39 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
10:16.54 | kandarz | Bruners: no |
10:17.24 | kandarz | Bruners: the first one I wrote for my guild, the second was the one featured on world of raids today |
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10:21.16 | asmodai | Whitetooth_! |
10:21.26 | asmodai | That reminds me |
10:22.14 | asmodai | Whitetooth_: I had extended your youarentinapartyfix with a minor thing. |
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10:23.16 | asmodai | heh |
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10:23.24 | asmodai | Will the real Whitetooth please stand up? |
10:23.41 | Whitetooth | ^^b |
10:24.37 | asmodai | Whitetooth: back when GearScore was screwing up wrt people not being in a guild and dumping "You are not in a guild" every time the character frame was opened, I added a small piece to your youarentinapartyfix addon. |
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10:24.57 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Would that also be nice to add to the app to track which addon is screwing up? |
10:25.54 | Whitetooth | oh I didn't notice, doesn't it already do that? |
10:26.10 | Repo | 10spamalyzer (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * e48503a / (5 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
10:26.12 | Repo | e48503a: Hooked SendAddonMessage() - calls StoreMessage() if the type is "WHISPER". |
10:26.13 | Repo | d3952a7: Re-named Spamalyzer:AddMessage() to StoreMessage(). |
10:26.14 | Repo | 5ff3473: Removed some unneeded code. |
10:26.15 | Repo | 2094662: Utilized the AddOn-wide namespace to pull in the KNOWN_PREFIXES from Prefixes.lua and embedded AceHook-3.0 |
10:26.17 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Nope. |
10:27.37 | Whitetooth | what do you mean by tracking, currently it tells you what addon is doing it |
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10:28.05 | asmodai | Exactly that :) |
10:28.35 | Whitetooth | "/yaiap" enables tracking |
10:29.18 | asmodai | Whitetooth: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/164238/ |
10:29.31 | Whitetooth | I haven't checked on that addon, thought they fixed it in 3.3 |
10:29.44 | asmodai | I am still not sure if that if statement needs additional parenthesis. |
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10:30.19 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Well, GearScore screwed up in one updated, every time the character frame was opened it showed that not in guild message. So using your addon with this minor tweak was helpful in tracking it :) |
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10:32.09 | winkiller | gearscore should never have been published |
10:33.06 | asmodai | winkiller: aside from that |
10:33.18 | asmodai | Getting tired of the GS 5k+ messages XD |
10:33.21 | BWMerlin | ^^^^ |
10:33.23 | BWMerlin | that |
10:33.25 | BWMerlin | >.< |
10:33.27 | winkiller | I have no clue about mine :) |
10:33.34 | winkiller | and I don't plan to change it |
10:34.02 | yoshimo | you arent in a guild/raid/party should all be hidden by yaiap , and the debug mode telling you who is the offender |
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10:34.11 | BWMerlin | i have a fear that by the time i reach 5k ppl will raise the bar and i will forever been stuck and told "your gs isnt high enough for this raid" |
10:34.33 | Caleb| | you get over 5k buy just doing heroics |
10:34.41 | Caleb| | from pure badge gear |
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10:35.35 | BWMerlin | my prot warrior is 497x to get to 5k would make him worst because the only upgrade is ick's thumb |
10:36.44 | asmodai | yoshimo: yes, but the guild thinghy wasn't in yaiap, hence my question to Whitetooth if it should be added :) |
10:36.48 | Whitetooth | asmodai: so it works? I'd add the parenthesis just to be clear |
10:36.57 | asmodai | Whitetooth: yeah, worked for me at least :D |
10:37.39 | Whitetooth | ok, I'll do some testing then add it |
10:38.08 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r324 modules/StatusAuras.lua: Fix Typo. (Ticket-85) |
10:39.38 | asmodai | Whitetooth: cool :) |
10:39.51 | asmodai | Whitetooth: makes it a one stop addon to point to for such issues |
10:40.20 | yoshimo | if yaiaps debug mode returns a prefix in debug mode, can you tell for sure that this addon is doing something wrong? |
10:42.12 | Whitetooth | well you can disable it and see |
10:42.56 | yoshimo | so you have to recheck= |
10:42.57 | yoshimo | ? |
10:43.33 | Whitetooth | only way to make sure :p |
10:45.31 | asmodai | But still, better than checking 70+ addons |
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10:51.25 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Stanzilla * r328 Bars (3 files in 1 directory): |
10:51.27 | Repo | Add Blade Barrier for DKs, Clearcasting for Mages and Envenom for Rogues. |
10:52.33 | yoshimo | asmodai, i know for sure that libgrouptalents and pallypower are reported but its unlikely that they will be fixed soon ;) |
10:54.10 | asmodai | pallypower needs to DIAF anyway for the spamming |
10:55.25 | yoshimo | blessed is not yet ready |
10:56.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7087 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
10:56.44 | Fisker | slaps Stanzilla around a bit with a large trout |
10:56.49 | Fisker | bam |
10:57.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker: miss |
10:58.00 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Stanzilla * r329 Bars/Mage.lua: Added Frostfire Bolt DoT for Mages |
10:58.23 | Fisker | why doesn't your stupid addon understand when it's disabled? |
10:59.28 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Stanzilla 042.3.30300.2 * r330 : Tagging as 2.3.30300.2 |
11:01.55 | Fisker | :( |
11:03.03 | winkiller | Tagging as v23.45-ANNOY-FISKER |
11:03.10 | Fisker | i agree |
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11:09.42 | Repo | 10youarentinapartyfix: 03Whitetooth * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): - TOC 30300, still hasn't been fixed in 3.3.0 |
11:09.44 | Repo | - Also fixes "You are not in a guild." messages |
11:11.08 | winkiller | lol |
11:11.33 | KriLL3 | all addons made by people in this channel got checks to see if it's fisker playing, and if it is throws random bugs etc |
11:11.43 | winkiller | youarenotinapartyfix - the "youarenotinaguild" release |
11:11.58 | winkiller | youarenotinapartyfix - the "youaretoofarawaytodothat" release |
11:12.12 | winkiller | youarenotinapartyfix - the "minus50dkpbecauseyoudidntknowwhatthefucktodo" release |
11:12.42 | KriLL3 | seems fisker hasn't used a "sell gray items" addon made in here yet, would vendor all his purplz then everything else to make the re-buy pane full of non purplz |
11:15.48 | yoshimo | winkiller, that would be nice in my guild yesterday , but a simple reset to -50 would have done it as well ;) |
11:16.18 | winkiller | we hasd a tree pull Festergut |
11:16.24 | KriLL3 | heh |
11:16.32 | winkiller | "X, can you stand on melee?" +runs in |
11:16.32 | KriLL3 | sounds like HCs I've been in... |
11:16.40 | winkiller | well, obv not BEFORE the tank pulls |
11:16.51 | KriLL3 | heh |
11:17.17 | yoshimo | winkiller, our raidleader&priest pulled festergut 10times by accident ;) for gods sake you can reset that guy... |
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11:17.22 | KriLL3 | perhaps he's been playing too many HCs recently, anyone and everyone thinks they're well within their rights to pull |
11:17.45 | winkiller | yoshimo: oh? but you need to quickly run out? |
11:17.51 | KriLL3 | if they're not the healer and not plate I just stand back and watch |
11:17.53 | winkiller | or was it Rotface... |
11:18.01 | winkiller | screw blizzard for making em look alike |
11:18.26 | KriLL3 | winkiller: that's not a decision they made, they're just lazy, same as the professor looks like a billion other bosses |
11:18.39 | yoshimo | yes you have to be quick, if he has aggro on someone in the hallway he will disappear, no idea if you can blink through the gate though |
11:18.48 | winkiller | KriLL3: I don't mind. but they are in the same wing.. |
11:18.59 | winkiller | it' stupid |
11:19.11 | winkiller | I am confused! |
11:19.19 | winkiller | don't even remember which one we killed now |
11:19.33 | winkiller | the gas one |
11:19.38 | Kuosi | festergut |
11:19.54 | dracula | there's some fun with council encounter as well |
11:20.32 | dracula | using pets on the wrong 'mobs' can pull the next boss... |
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11:20.43 | winkiller | hm? |
11:21.12 | winkiller | I just pulled the room before the prince in UK with my ghoul |
11:21.24 | dracula | still not sure how it happens, but we had Queen Lana'thel enter the room with zillion of adds |
11:21.27 | winkiller | I have the glyphl but it still used a corpse |
11:21.29 | winkiller | inside the mobs |
11:21.34 | winkiller | lol |
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11:23.06 | Fisker | dracula imp! |
11:23.31 | dracula | could be, on the kinetic bombs |
11:23.45 | vhaarr | yeah imps on bombs will pull her |
11:23.49 | vhaarr | or, not any more, they fixed it |
11:23.50 | dracula | though that would mean we must have had a warlock that can actually manage his pet |
11:24.49 | haste | winkiller: that's alsmost as fun as when auto-walk activates while I'm on another desktop! |
11:25.09 | dracula | ah I see now on mmo-champion |
11:25.11 | haste | think I've ninja pulled most bosses that way, except for those in ICC tho' :p |
11:25.34 | haste | finally gotten the habbit of putting my char towards a wall where we pull instead of towards the boss |
11:26.43 | kandarz | Is there a way to make pattern matching ungreedy? |
11:26.54 | winkiller | lol |
11:27.07 | winkiller | /G /U |
11:27.08 | winkiller | usually |
11:27.12 | nevcairiel | kandarz: use - instead of + |
11:27.13 | winkiller | or /u? |
11:27.21 | winkiller | silly lua! |
11:27.55 | kandarz | so "(|cff%x*|Hitem:.-|h|r)-" would make 0 or more item links? |
11:28.28 | nevcairiel | lua> ("baaaaa"):match("(ba+)") |
11:28.28 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: baaaaa |
11:28.30 | nevcairiel | lua> ("baaaaa"):match("(ba-)") |
11:28.30 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: b |
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11:30.53 | nevcairiel | i don't think lua pattern can actually repeat whole groups, unless i remember wrong |
11:31.37 | nevcairiel | lua> ("baaaaa"):match("b(aa)+") |
11:31.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
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11:41.11 | kandarz | so, I can't find anything that isn't a lua extension for simple string replace that isn't a pattern, since if I pass in an item link as the pattern, the brackets around the item name mess up the pattern resulting in no replacement, any ideas? |
11:43.15 | Fisker | manually disables Classtimer yet again since it doesn't fucking know how to remember |
11:43.35 | Stanzilla | rly? |
11:43.46 | Fisker | rly |
11:43.55 | Stanzilla | I don't believe you :( |
11:43.57 | quiescens | presumably something else is enabling it? |
11:44.03 | Dessa | worked here everytime, must be Fisker-ness |
11:44.06 | quiescens | I don't think an addon can enable itself directly |
11:44.15 | Fisker | maybe your mother is quiescens |
11:45.15 | Fisker | been there ever since i started leveling my hunter ;( |
11:45.51 | Fisker | though i'm running it on a character specific profile |
11:47.38 | Fisker | one day i'm gonna kill that skull in FoS |
11:51.18 | kandarz | I might actually hit my comcast 250GB cap this month |
11:51.43 | Fisker | what's a cap? |
11:51.58 | yoshimo | if you download more, they will throttle you and you might pay more |
11:52.04 | kandarz | 250GB |
11:52.18 | kandarz | I heard they send you a letter and tell you to stop it |
11:52.35 | kandarz | and if you do it again, they just terminate your service |
11:52.42 | yoshimo | my connection has unlimited traffic but i think a cap isnt needed its just slow as hell^^ |
11:52.52 | quiescens | and then the black sedans pull up in front of your house |
11:53.25 | kandarz | I have 8 days to go with 80GB left |
11:53.44 | kandarz | 76GB when I finish downloading my current batch |
11:54.24 | yoshimo | what the hell are you guys downloading? all my games and surfing wont fill up 76g in a month :P |
11:54.41 | yoshimo | wows traffic is not that high |
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11:55.45 | Fisker | i know yoshimo |
11:55.50 | Fisker | caps are for newbs |
11:55.51 | kandarz | I download all my television in 720p (1.12GB per hour long episode) |
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11:56.05 | nevcairiel | I used 110gb this month so far |
11:56.28 | kandarz | January 2010 (Incoming: 126042 MB / Outgoing: 44891 MB) |
11:57.33 | yoshimo | whats your connections speed? |
11:57.41 | yoshimo | upload/download |
11:57.59 | kandarz | bits or bytes |
11:58.21 | yoshimo | doesnt matter, i can do math^ |
11:58.29 | nevcairiel | 3/.5 down/up in mbit only :( |
11:59.19 | yoshimo | europe is evil , upload is very very low, even if your download is 16 or higher |
11:59.23 | kandarz | current speed right now is 1536KB/s download (which is just about max), upload maxes out about 230 KB/s |
11:59.42 | kandarz | yoshimo: cable, dsl, fiber? |
11:59.42 | nevcairiel | when i move in a few month i'm looking at a 50/10 connection :d |
11:59.46 | yoshimo | dsl |
11:59.52 | kandarz | adsl? |
12:00.02 | yoshimo | indeed, symmetric will cost way more |
12:00.18 | nevcairiel | sdsl is so expensive because it destroys the copper cables |
12:00.25 | yoshimo | something like adsl= 30€, sdsl = 200€ |
12:00.40 | yoshimo | depends on the speed you want though |
12:00.50 | kandarz | comcast is really slow at rolling out DOCSIS 3.0 :( |
12:01.01 | Fisker | oh my god |
12:01.03 | yoshimo | even more speed? |
12:01.08 | Fisker | i was in a forge of souls group without jerks |
12:01.20 | Fisker | and needle-encrusted scorpion dropped |
12:01.23 | nevcairiel | I'll switch to 50/10 VDSL in 3-4 month, hopefully :) |
12:01.31 | Fisker | and the tank was kind enough to pass :3 |
12:01.51 | KriLL3 | bah, better that a tank gets it than fisker |
12:01.57 | yoshimo | poor copper cables, but i cant get higher than 6 here... |
12:02.04 | kandarz | ya, DOCSIS 3.0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_Tables |
12:02.07 | Fisker | aww KriLL3 ;( |
12:02.12 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I'm far out in the suburbs in rocky terrain, can't get more than 12~ :( |
12:02.45 | nevcairiel | i'm in a small town right now, hence only 3 .. but i want to move into the city :d |
12:02.46 | kandarz | But I can get 4G! wooo wireless |
12:02.46 | yoshimo | would have been nice for some good quality streaming of games but doesnt work right now |
12:02.48 | KriLL3 | can get faster 3G than DSL here ironically... though 3G has a too long delay to be useful for most tasks |
12:03.12 | KriLL3 | kandarz: isn't 4G currently a lot slower than 3G because the net isn't finished? |
12:03.17 | kandarz | ME2 35 min remaining |
12:03.24 | kandarz | I'm in the test market |
12:03.29 | Fisker | that sounds illegal kandarz |
12:03.35 | kandarz | Oh it is |
12:03.37 | Fisker | 1 hour myself |
12:03.39 | kandarz | But I'm buying it |
12:03.40 | KriLL3 | Fisker: perhaps he's downloading on steam? |
12:03.43 | Fisker | but had to pause it for some fringe etc. |
12:03.51 | kandarz | I got fringe earlier |
12:03.54 | nevcairiel | our cable provider wants to roll out 100mbit as well, but meh, we'll see how that goes |
12:04.08 | Fisker | ME2 isn't preloading yet KriLL3 |
12:04.11 | KriLL3 | kandarz: what speeds do you get? |
12:04.11 | Fisker | but it's nice |
12:04.19 | Fisker | when it's released i can just copy ME2 into the steam folder |
12:04.22 | kandarz | Fisker, I started after you too! Time elapsed: 2h 20m, Time remaining: 34m |
12:04.26 | Fisker | and it'll redownload the binaries and work |
12:04.30 | Fisker | true kandarz |
12:04.31 | KriLL3 | Fisker: I wouldn't know, I wouldn't touch steam with a 18 foot pole |
12:04.35 | Fisker | but my internet sucks right now |
12:04.35 | yoshimo | well all these providers in germany and the government talking about better speed for rural areas but nothing seems to happen^^ |
12:04.58 | kandarz | Krill3, current speed right now is 1536KB/s download (which is just about max), upload maxes out about 230 KB/s |
12:05.00 | Fisker | and i'm torrenting this because i was too lazy to setup newsgroups |
12:05.08 | sb|work | nevcairiel: works here... :p |
12:05.18 | sb|work | nevcairiel: 100/2.5 |
12:05.30 | nevcairiel | 2.5 is just pathetic, would rather get 50/10 :d |
12:05.37 | KriLL3 | kandarz: so 12Mbit? |
12:06.08 | kandarz | yeah, first 80MB or so is 16Mbit (Comcast Speedboost (TM)!) |
12:06.26 | nevcairiel | besides, for some reason i still trust the telekom more then kabel deutschland or kabel-bw for that matter :D |
12:06.28 | yoshimo | nevcairiel , me too, but its 2km until they can guarantee vdsl speed |
12:06.33 | KriLL3 | kandarz: errm you said you had 4G |
12:06.45 | kandarz | oh, no, I could get 4G |
12:06.48 | KriLL3 | ah |
12:07.46 | KriLL3 | I could have 50/20 DSL if I was hooked to the base station on the other side of the road instead of one a couple Km down the road, but the one on the other side of the road is "full" according to telia |
12:07.59 | kandarz | Fisker: how is your torrent speed? |
12:08.02 | KriLL3 | asked around with people on that station, no performance issues |
12:08.21 | Fisker | 600kB/s right now |
12:08.51 | kandarz | "full" as in no more ports? I figure DSL being "Dedicated" needs its own wire |
12:08.51 | KriLL3 | I top out at about 700-800 now with this con, sadly 1/4 of it is at all times reserved for the IPTV, even if it's not on |
12:08.52 | KriLL3 | <3 |
12:08.55 | Fisker | that sounds BS KriLL3 |
12:08.57 | KriLL3 | kandarz: yes |
12:09.04 | KriLL3 | Fisker: no not really |
12:09.10 | KriLL3 | it has a limited number of connections |
12:09.15 | Fisker | that may be |
12:09.22 | KriLL3 | guess I'll just have to burn down one of the houses connected to it |
12:09.27 | Fisker | But your connection goes from your house to the base station |
12:09.31 | nevcairiel | yeah DSL boxes can run out of connections :d |
12:09.43 | kandarz | Go rent a ladder truck, rewire it yourself |
12:10.03 | KriLL3 | Fisker: yes, and I'm hooked to one far away since our house was the last to be built on this stretch of road and the box was full |
12:10.16 | KriLL3 | kandarz: everything here is in the ground |
12:10.23 | Fisker | then the box being full is the secondary issue |
12:10.27 | Fisker | really ;3 |
12:10.32 | kandarz | Backhoe then |
12:10.32 | KriLL3 | and yes I could rewire it myself, but nowadays that's not enough |
12:10.54 | KriLL3 | the ISP has to enable it on their side, with MAC numbers for the modem etc |
12:11.14 | KriLL3 | a simple re-wiring doesn't work anymore |
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12:12.11 | kandarz | I didn't think DSL needed the MAC address, I know Cable does as I just had to get a new modem |
12:12.20 | Fisker | i should be able to get 50Mbit VDSL here :( |
12:12.40 | nevcairiel | DSL usually doesnt |
12:12.42 | nevcairiel | i can attach any modem |
12:12.53 | KriLL3 | the irony is that a couple blocks away you can get fiber 100/100 for half the price we pay for 12/0.8~ DSL (more than that but as said the IPTV takes a big chunk even if the set-top box is off) |
12:13.41 | KriLL3 | yeah you can usually attach any modem, but most ISPs here ask your MAC number and disable the service if the reported MAC changes and you don't use their sign up process again |
12:13.52 | nevcairiel | never heard of that here |
12:15.07 | KriLL3 | it's a bit weird, didn't use to be like this, in the past you got a bog standard DSL modem with an ethernet connection out, or perhaps some kind of inbuilt switch with 4, now you get a DSL modem with wireless, switch and all, and it's crappy with "my toddler's first router" software that's all locked down |
12:15.59 | KriLL3 | I don't have access to anything except some rudimentary port mapping, can't even set up a DMZ, all major settings are locked down and only respond to commands from OUTSIDE |
12:16.24 | KriLL3 | aka my ISP can fiddle with my modem/router box all they want, but I can't do squat |
12:16.48 | nevcairiel | thats why i'm happy to just have a modem from them, and provide the router myself |
12:16.56 | KriLL3 | the Cisco certified network technician in me isn't happy about that... |
12:17.26 | KriLL3 | yeah I opened as many ports as I wanted/needed and put my own WRT54GL router running DD-WRT after the "modem" |
12:17.40 | nevcairiel | I |
12:17.58 | nevcairiel | I'm on a linux router right now, but i'll probably just use my dd-wrt when i move |
12:18.06 | nevcairiel | currently is just an access point, more or less :P |
12:18.07 | KriLL3 | my ISP seems completely confused by that, "why would you want another router? we gave you a router" |
12:18.51 | KriLL3 | DD-WRT is linux btw =P |
12:19.31 | quiescens | just get your replacement router to pretend that it has the same mac address |
12:19.50 | KriLL3 | also that router ensures my ISP can't access my network |
12:19.54 | nevcairiel | yeah yeah, i mean a old pc running some firewall-distribution :P |
12:19.58 | KriLL3 | quiescens: my router doesn't have a modem |
12:20.19 | kandarz | I had to get DD-WRT because default linksys firmware would eat up it's ram in iptables when torrenting, requiring a reset |
12:20.44 | KriLL3 | and their "modem" has VoIP and IPTV in it, so even getting a regular DSL modem doesn't really help, I'd loose those services if I did |
12:21.10 | KriLL3 | kandarz: though to be fair old DD-WRT did that as well if you didn't configure it |
12:21.40 | kandarz | KriLL3: oh yea, I had to configure it, but the fact that it was even configurable was the reason to get it |
12:21.41 | KriLL3 | v23 that is |
12:21.53 | KriLL3 | v24 (RC) is configured properly out of the box |
12:22.08 | kandarz | Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp1 (07/28/08) mini |
12:22.32 | KriLL3 | kandarz: heh, my "modem" doesn't have settings for the bulk of what you want to change =P or if it does only my ISP can change em |
12:22.49 | kandarz | Plus, now I couldn't live without static DHCP |
12:23.41 | KriLL3 | I only got access to very rudimentary port mapping, you make "games / applications" and list the ports they need then assign that game/app to a network device via the name of the device, a name you have to set yourself in another menu |
12:24.15 | KriLL3 | kandarz: yeah it's very nice for port mapping, use it also |
12:24.52 | KriLL3 | weirdly the modem crashed when I tried to make a "game" that used ports 1-65000 |
12:24.54 | KriLL3 | =P |
12:26.08 | yoshimo | which game would need such a large amount of ports^^ |
12:27.30 | kandarz | The game "I don't like my ISP" By Activision |
12:27.40 | KriLL3 | heh |
12:28.22 | KriLL3 | I've routed all the major ports np, don't notice that extra layer for the most part |
12:28.36 | Repo | 10spamalyzer (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * 90d2421 Spamalyzer.lua: [+4 commits] |
12:28.37 | KriLL3 | but it sure is galling |
12:28.38 | Repo | 90d2421: Changed event registry for CHAT_MSG_ADDON - call StoreMessage() directly from there using the correct parameters. |
12:28.39 | Repo | af2367e: Removed TRACKING_CHECKS - found a cleaner way to do what I wanted. |
12:28.40 | Repo | 1950f66: Added code for StoreMessage() - at present all it does is look for the prefix in the database and add it if not found, and if output_frame is non-nil sends the information to the designated frame colored by whether or not tooltip-tracking is enabled for the message type. Fixed variable names in Spamalyzer:SendAddonMessage() |
12:28.41 | Repo | 19194d4: Added output_frame for displaying AddOn message information. Uses CHAT_FRAME_MAP for assignment. |
12:28.49 | yoshimo | well you could create app 1-x and split it krill i guess ;) |
12:30.35 | KriLL3 | I guess, but the router crashed when I enabled like 10 of those in 1000 steps, not sure if it's possible |
12:30.48 | KriLL3 | *modem/router/boxofhorrors |
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12:38.37 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b7mwTK564o |
12:39.58 | Fisker | hey assmodai |
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12:43.25 | evl | Anyone know a quick way to strip Grid completely and build it back up? |
12:45.14 | quiescens | hire someone |
12:45.18 | Fisker | take it's clothes off |
12:45.22 | Fisker | its* |
12:45.37 | yoshimo | evl, what do you want to remove? |
12:46.54 | evl | Well I've never used grid because I'm a rogue and I don't really care about anything but how many people are dead, but with the blood queen encounter it's clear I need something to show bites. The defaults are incredibly spammy and I just wanted to check if I could sort of load a barebones profile and add what I need from there instead of having to disable everything from here to the moon first |
12:48.33 | yoshimo | i.e. remove every status except the ones from the raiddebuffsplugin? |
12:48.44 | evl | Or just have a Bare profile I could copy |
12:48.52 | evl | which had nothing except maybe the name of the player |
12:49.24 | Grum | evl: the default has no spammy settings afaik |
12:49.47 | evl | How can you say that when every status and indicator is enabled by default? :P |
12:49.50 | asmodai | ~lart fisker |
12:49.50 | purl | blasts fisker to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
12:49.52 | yoshimo | dont we have an alternative that is lighter and allows you to add this status as well? |
12:49.57 | Grum | evl: enabled but not showing for anything |
12:50.13 | evl | Hey I just know I loaded it up and it lit up like a DDR machine |
12:50.23 | Grum | i think it shows target, name, health, death, offline only by default |
12:50.30 | asmodai | Deutsche Demokratische Republik? |
12:50.56 | yoshimo | asmodai i guess so |
12:50.57 | evl | incoming heals, casts, health bar, power word shield, renews etc. etc. |
12:51.03 | evl | asmodai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dance_Dance_Revolution |
12:51.14 | evl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stemania4_Alpha4.png |
12:51.28 | yoshimo | also possible that he is talking about RAM ;) |
12:51.57 | evl | yoshimo: this more light weight addon, you wouldn't happen to know the name? :) |
12:53.57 | KriLL3 | anyone else having issues with bartender and vehicles? keybinds don't work, had to revert to the default vehicle UI |
12:54.11 | yoshimo | if i knew the name^^ i just dont think that the old grid, is the best solution if you just need this one thing. |
12:54.32 | evl | KriLL3: there's afaik always been some issues with vehicles and diffent bar mods since the default has quite a lot of hacks in place to make sure they actually work :) |
12:54.41 | KriLL3 | is there an addon like grid that doesn't suck and use a boatload of resources? |
12:54.55 | KriLL3 | evl: well bartender used to work for me |
12:54.59 | asmodai | evl: I know, was just pulling your leg |
12:55.15 | KriLL3 | but all of a sudden the keybinds stopped working had to click the bars to make anything happen |
12:55.25 | evl | KriLL3: I had the same problems until I switched back to defaukt :P |
12:55.53 | evl | KriLL3: I ended up writing a small mod that basically cleans and stacks the default bars without tampering with their underlying code, probably a bit like Dominoes but less configurable |
12:55.59 | yoshimo | i could spent all day and night reporting spammers on curse.com... |
12:56.44 | evl | yoshimo: The name wouldn't happen to be Injector btw? |
12:58.10 | yoshimo | i dont know anything like this |
12:58.28 | evl | yoshimo: the lightweight alternative |
12:59.37 | yoshimo | i still dont know that^^, im looking for something lighweight myself, but i am too used to grid1 |
12:59.57 | evl | yoshimo: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14339-0.8.1.2.html |
12:59.57 | Arrowmaster | freebgrid is something is what you are thinking of i bet |
13:00.01 | KriLL3 | just a bit puzzled how it suddenly broke, if it was like this for everyone I'd have heard something about it, but it seems I'm the only one with this issue |
13:00.45 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: are you sure your keybinds are set to the default main menu bar? |
13:01.03 | evl | Arrowmaster: thanks :) |
13:01.40 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: think so, works if I use the default vehicle UI in the options |
13:01.51 | KriLL3 | let me check |
13:02.20 | Arrowmaster | bartender does some override bindings when the vehicle bar comes up |
13:04.22 | KriLL3 | yeah my binds are on the default bar |
13:04.33 | KriLL3 | should I switch it to bartender's bar? |
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13:05.05 | KriLL3 | they're empty |
13:05.45 | nevcairiel | for bar1, bartender just hijacks blizzards bindings |
13:06.12 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
13:06.17 | KriLL3 | well it doesn't work for some reason |
13:06.25 | KriLL3 | as soon as I enter a vehicle the keybinds go dead |
13:06.32 | KriLL3 | doesn't do anything |
13:06.59 | KriLL3 | same with possess from what I've seen |
13:08.19 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i know when i looked at your code around 3.1 it used SetOverrideBinding() for the vehicle stuff |
13:09.17 | KriLL3 | weird thing is that it used to work just fine, but all of a sudden it stopped working, and I didn't change any settings when it stopped working |
13:09.37 | Arrowmaster | which made me a little concerned since i was working on something that used SetOverrideBinding on the bar1 keybindings when the vehicle, possession bar poped up |
13:11.05 | KriLL3 | should I try binding BT bar1 instead of the default bar? |
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13:17.02 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: well yeah, i just set the bar1 bindings to the vehicle bar |
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13:19.04 | KriLL3 | I take it I'm the only one with this issue? |
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13:25.13 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1211 Data (4 files in 1 directory): |
13:25.15 | Repo | - Added a no downranking tag for spells that probably don't downrank |
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13:29.29 | KriLL3 | just tried binding the bartender bar 1 instead of the default bar, same result |
13:29.50 | KriLL3 | "You can't do that right now." |
13:30.06 | nevcairiel | you probably did log out in between? :D |
13:30.22 | KriLL3 | no I didn't, doing that now |
13:31.17 | KriLL3 | a bit weird that message, if it was trying to do something else would I auto dismount as if I was on a regular mount? |
13:31.28 | KriLL3 | or doesn't that apply to vehicles? |
13:31.29 | nevcairiel | no |
13:31.39 | nevcairiel | that doesnt work with vehicles like that |
13:31.42 | KriLL3 | re-logged, same issue |
13:31.59 | KriLL3 | am I the only one with this issue? weird |
13:32.04 | nevcairiel | is your bar1 set to do possess switching? |
13:32.07 | KriLL3 | yes |
13:32.19 | KriLL3 | the bar comes up fine, and it works if click it |
13:32.34 | KriLL3 | but the keybinds all produce "You can't do that right now." |
13:32.39 | nevcairiel | you use the graphical vehicle ui, yes? |
13:32.40 | KriLL3 | and no yellow outline etc |
13:33.00 | KriLL3 | I did to circumvent the issue, I didn't before and I don't atm |
13:33.12 | KriLL3 | and by that I mean blizzards default UI in the settings |
13:33.22 | nevcairiel | yea, so thats off? |
13:33.25 | KriLL3 | yes |
13:33.29 | nevcairiel | hm weird |
13:33.31 | KriLL3 | I got a bartender bar down there |
13:33.39 | KriLL3 | the content of it is correct, but none of the binds work |
13:34.15 | nevcairiel | maybe some other addons is stealing the binds |
13:34.33 | nevcairiel | bartender only changes them if you use the blizzard ui option thing |
13:35.31 | KriLL3 | nuking all my addons except bartender |
13:35.37 | KriLL3 | yeah works |
13:35.52 | KriLL3 | now to find out which damn addon is causing it... yay... |
13:36.16 | evl | KriLL3: KeybindPirate most likely! |
13:36.44 | nevcairiel | what bartender does to work around some issues, in vehicles it just sets the buttons to forward the clicks to the real vehicle buttons .. so there is a chance some addon stops them from working properly |
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13:36.58 | nevcairiel | or it just steals keybinds |
13:37.04 | sb|work | @describe spamalyzer |
13:37.05 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/. Spamalyzer. Tracks SendAddonMessage Spam |
13:37.14 | KriLL3 | evl: don't have that addon but I do have bindpad... |
13:37.17 | sb|work | Fubar_SpamFu replacement? |
13:37.20 | yoshimo | im in your addon stealing your bindings ;) |
13:37.20 | sb|work | err AddonSpamFu |
13:37.43 | yoshimo | sb|work , indeed. too many people wanted a broker compatible replacement ;) |
13:37.47 | KriLL3 | yeah it's bindpad |
13:37.55 | sb|work | yoshimo: yea, me too :p |
13:38.13 | KriLL3 | an addon to bind spells directly without putting em on bars, why would it interfere with bartender? |
13:38.35 | nevcairiel | is that on wowace? |
13:38.43 | KriLL3 | no wowi, but it's on CC |
13:38.50 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6385-BindPad-GUItosetkeybindingsforspellitemmacro.html |
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13:39.21 | vhaarr | wowace has KeyBoundExtra-1.0 |
13:39.47 | KriLL3 | vhaarr: does it do the same thing without killing BT? |
13:39.51 | vhaarr | ye |
13:40.07 | KriLL3 | that sounds like a lib, is there an addon that implements it? |
13:40.13 | vhaarr | that is the addon |
13:40.20 | KriLL3 | not in CC |
13:40.24 | vhaarr | toadkiller made it, he's just not sane |
13:40.34 | vhaarr | well it's there |
13:40.54 | KriLL3 | ... I hate that CC looks in your installed addons if you use the search field after opening it |
13:42.02 | vhaarr | after you install just /kb |
13:42.08 | KriLL3 | vhaarr: is it LibKeyBound-1.0 LibKeyBoundExtra-1.0 or KeyboundExtra-1.0 or some kind of combination? |
13:42.08 | vhaarr | then open the spellbook or macro window |
13:42.13 | vhaarr | hover an action |
13:42.19 | vhaarr | and click whatever keybinding you want |
13:42.27 | nevcairiel | i believe KeyBoundExtra is the addon that just uses the lib |
13:42.27 | vhaarr | KriLL3: ye all 3 |
13:42.31 | vhaarr | nev is right |
13:42.38 | nevcairiel | don't ask me why it was a lib in the first place |
13:42.55 | vhaarr | I've long thought that it all needs ripping out and be put in a standalone addon |
13:42.56 | KriLL3 | do I need to install any of the others or just the addon? |
13:42.59 | vhaarr | but I am lazy |
13:43.00 | Arrowmaster | i think all the addon does it load the lib |
13:43.09 | vhaarr | that's what nev just said |
13:43.10 | vhaarr | and yes |
13:43.19 | nevcairiel | LibKeyBound is a proper lib, bartender uses it to manage the keybindings |
13:43.24 | nevcairiel | but the Extra thing was just weird |
13:43.41 | vhaarr | toadkiller, what can you do |
13:43.49 | KriLL3 | I thought addons came with the libs they need? |
13:43.57 | nevcairiel | they do |
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13:44.12 | vhaarr | I was assuming you used svn directly, then you need all 3 |
13:44.14 | KriLL3 | but I should install all 3 of them? addon and 2 libs? |
13:44.19 | vhaarr | if you download the zip then obviously you just need the addon |
13:44.20 | KriLL3 | I'm in CC |
13:44.25 | vhaarr | then I have no clue :P |
13:45.39 | Arrowmaster | just the addon one |
13:46.02 | Arrowmaster | if youve got it set to nolibs then it should pull the library down too |
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13:51.16 | KriLL3 | does that /kb thing work in the spellbook & macro pane? |
13:51.24 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> after you install just /kb |
13:51.25 | nevcairiel | if you install extra, it should |
13:51.28 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> then open the spellbook or macro window |
13:51.28 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> hover an action |
13:51.28 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> and click whatever keybinding you want |
13:52.27 | KriLL3 | works with "keyboundextra" installed |
13:52.43 | KriLL3 | didn't install the lib in CC, guess the addon has it |
13:52.44 | Stanzilla | not really |
13:53.49 | KriLL3 | are these binds character specific if the box is ticked in the keybinds panel? |
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13:54.22 | nevcairiel | isnt there the same box on the keybound popup? |
13:54.25 | nevcairiel | but yes |
13:55.53 | KriLL3 | weird, why do some addons forget their placement if turned off? |
13:56.05 | vhaarr | because wow stores their position |
13:56.06 | nevcairiel | because they use blizzards broken placement system |
13:56.09 | vhaarr | and not the addon itself |
13:56.15 | KriLL3 | ah |
13:56.34 | KriLL3 | and it's purged if you log in with the addon disabled/uninstalled? |
13:56.36 | nevcairiel | and blizzard cleans that up when an addon is off |
13:56.43 | Fisker | tackles KriLL3 |
13:56.50 | KriLL3 | awesome |
13:59.47 | KriLL3 | one of my addons creeps for some weird reason, goes inexorably down each login |
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14:24.45 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Antiarc's been suspiciously absent eh? :) |
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14:24.55 | Antiarc | I'm around |
14:24.57 | Antiarc | Just busy |
14:25.08 | asmodai | Woo! |
14:25.35 | asmodai | Antiarc: Happened to see the taint stuff nev and me discussed (probably LibInternalCooldowns)? |
14:25.50 | Antiarc | I haven't, can you give me the reader's digest? |
14:26.53 | asmodai | Antiarc: SexyCooldown is tainting the totem bar, which causes me to not be able to switch totems in a fight from the totem bar. nevcairiel looked at the taintlog (got a URL if needed) and then at SexyCooldown and figured it might be LibInternalCooldowns |
14:27.07 | Antiarc | URL would be great. |
14:27.23 | asmodai | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/taint.log |
14:27.32 | asmodai | Pardon the size, was during an instance run. |
14:28.15 | Antiarc | Bah, it didn't used to do that :( |
14:28.58 | yoshimo | what could stop a questtrackeraddon to read how many mobs you have killed already for a quest? |
14:29.04 | asmodai | Antiarc: Should the default sexycooldown show me totem timers? |
14:29.09 | Antiarc | yes |
14:29.14 | asmodai | Antiarc: It doesn't for me |
14:29.21 | asmodai | Antiarc: Unless SUF is causing that in some way. |
14:29.23 | Antiarc | I'll re-test |
14:29.50 | asmodai | Antiarc: That will be great. Let me know if you need some additional test or the likes. |
14:30.01 | Antiarc | I've got a shaman so I should be able to reproduce it |
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14:30.20 | Ghan | yo |
14:30.36 | Ghan | that... might have been the wrong window |
14:30.43 | Ghan | no matter: Yo! |
14:31.15 | asmodai | Antiarc: ok cool. :) |
14:32.45 | asmodai | Antiarc: By the way, is it intentional LibInternalCooldowns has no ticketing enabled? |
14:32.52 | Antiarc | Not intentional, no |
14:33.09 | yoshimo | i removed the savedvars for dropthecheapest thing and it wont sell to vendors again.. |
14:34.22 | Kemayo | yoshimo: I've actually just been looking at that... |
14:34.25 | asmodai | yoshimo: It seems to have some small problems at times, not finding an item or saying it expected one and found another (which is the same one) |
14:34.50 | Kemayo | I can't reproduce it. However, I think I know what might be causing it |
14:35.33 | yoshimo | removing the svar helped for a while but it stopped vendoring again somehow |
14:36.17 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.5.2-1-ge75aa65 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Change merchant auto-sell trigger. |
14:36.38 | Kemayo | Try that alpha. |
14:37.09 | vhaarr | Kemayo: how do I sort the guilbank with bankstack? |
14:37.15 | vhaarr | guild* |
14:37.36 | Kemayo | vhaarr: "/sort guild[1-5]", I think |
14:37.40 | Kemayo | It's been a while. |
14:37.44 | vhaarr | yeah that doesn't work at least |
14:38.06 | Kemayo | Let me go check, then. |
14:38.26 | asmodai | ah |
14:38.29 | asmodai | Kemayo: btw |
14:38.38 | asmodai | Kemayo: Had plans to update 5s rule for SUF? |
14:39.22 | Kemayo | If the current version is broken, then I'd probably fix it next time I played a mana-using class. :) |
14:39.31 | asmodai | Kemayo: it is |
14:39.39 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: as far as i could see, the tainting hooks in LibInternalCooldown on the Get*Cooldown functions are the cause of the taint |
14:39.50 | asmodai | might have to look at the code himself and see if he can fix it. |
14:39.54 | olafski | oh that'd be awesome kemayo :D |
14:39.57 | Kemayo | Does it give errors, or just not work? |
14:40.05 | olafski | doesn't work for me.. I don't see the option to enable it anywhere |
14:40.09 | yoshimo | Kemayo, i think that fixed it. It vendors again |
14:40.28 | asmodai | Kemayo: no errors, just doesn't show the 'spark'. |
14:40.31 | KriLL3 | why does dps pick one mob each in pack pulls or even do stuff like bladestorm first second of the encounter? :( hit my target kthx |
14:40.53 | olafski | I generally pick another mob to ensure I can at least finish one rotation before it dies krill3 ;) |
14:41.05 | Kemayo | yoshimo: Let me know if it stops working again. (Problem was that if events fired in an order I didn't expect, it could wind up trying to sell things before it knew it was at a merchant.) |
14:41.28 | KriLL3 | olafski: making the tank waste cooldowns and generally increasing his burden, yay. |
14:41.45 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Working out what's wrong with guild-bank sorting may have to wait on the realm list being willing to load so I can get to a realm where I have a guild bank... |
14:42.01 | profalbert | KriLL3: well, what's the worst that could happen? |
14:42.01 | asmodai | KriLL3: Depends, with some tanks I start hitting the mob they initially hit and then they seem to switch around, so it's not always easy to see which he wants to be killed if there's no marking >_< |
14:42.05 | KriLL3 | I'm getting so sick of it I don't even taunt anymore, if they're stupid enough to attack what's clearly not my target I let me tank it |
14:42.55 | KriLL3 | profalbert: being deemed "a noob" because I can't hold aggro on 3 different mobs all hit by a dps:er each |
14:43.01 | asmodai | Kemayo: Funny, change realm was actually fixed for me. I can finally switch between realms again after having played a character on one of the other realms. |
14:43.20 | pompy | There's nothing in Bankstack that says it lets you sort the Guild Bank, hm. Just personal bags and bank. |
14:43.25 | olafski | krill3: tank may ignore me if he likes.. I don't mind being hit a bit :) |
14:43.30 | olafski | krill3: but usually I'm the tank anyway |
14:43.33 | KriLL3 | pompy: errm, heard of mrplow? |
14:43.40 | Kemayo | asmodai: 5sr works for me. At least, the alpha version on wowace. I should probably tag it for release... |
14:43.54 | KriLL3 | olafski: yes it's less effective on plate/feral |
14:43.58 | asmodai | Kemayo: oh, there's alpha? |
14:44.08 | asmodai | Kemayo: think I only tried release, but not sure. |
14:44.21 | KriLL3 | my personal fav are the rogues & hunters that pull aggro and don't use vanish/FD |
14:44.22 | olafski | quite sure I only tried the release :) |
14:44.29 | Kemayo | pompy: It's a stealth feature... guild banks are just weird bagids which CursorHasItem doesn't work on. |
14:44.37 | olafski | meh in a heroic the hunter will have the mob killed before it reaches him ;) |
14:44.42 | KriLL3 | guess they don't have it on their bars, or they prefer that I waste my taunt cooldown than they "waste" their cooldown... |
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14:44.51 | arkanes | well, in fairness |
14:44.54 | KriLL3 | olafski: no actually not always |
14:44.58 | arkanes | your taunt cd is 8 seconds, and my vanish one is 3 minutes |
14:45.04 | KriLL3 | and sometimes they get aggro again after my taunt ends |
14:45.07 | arkanes | so purely from an economic perspective that makes a lot of sense |
14:45.14 | olafski | I've seen hunters who say they didn't want to waste a gcd to dispel Enrage :P |
14:45.23 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 04v3.5.3 * 3026eab /: [new tag] Tagging v3.5.3 for release. |
14:45.35 | arkanes | depends on the run but generally in a heroic I will rogue tank whatever ends up hitting me without worrying about |
14:45.35 | KriLL3 | arkanes: no it doesn't, I shouldn't, I'm the only one that can taunt (safely) making me waste it isn't a good thing |
14:45.48 | arkanes | KriLL3: well thats just nonsense |
14:45.50 | olafski | you shouldn't need taunt too often anyway |
14:45.58 | KriLL3 | if you're overaggroing you should fix it |
14:46.01 | KriLL3 | not me |
14:46.05 | arkanes | sure |
14:46.06 | olafski | so don't fix it |
14:46.08 | arkanes | and I would, if I cared |
14:46.09 | arkanes | but I don't |
14:46.20 | arkanes | becuse its a heroic and we're all overgeared and the mob will be dead |
14:46.21 | olafski | I don't care either.. I can take the damage of a few heroic trashmobs ;P |
14:46.24 | KriLL3 | olafski: I ride it in heroics now, no one bothers to check my target, even if I set a skull no one hits that mob even if it's a healer etc |
14:46.25 | arkanes | I don't care if you tank, either |
14:46.39 | olafski | healers in heroics? oh care, really :P |
14:46.41 | arkanes | now, if you're a brand new tank or whatever |
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14:46.50 | arkanes | then I'm going to be doing my best to help you out |
14:46.51 | Repo | 10shadowuf-five: 03Kemayo 04v3 * a9a68c3 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tag v3 |
14:46.53 | pompy | Kemayo: getting this error when right clicking bankstacks launcher... http://pastebin.com/d7b8e22ee |
14:46.55 | Kemayo | asmodai: There you go. |
14:47.39 | arkanes | KriLL3: anyway, if you think you're in a situation where you can't afford to burn the taunt then just don't do it |
14:47.50 | KriLL3 | I guess I'm set in the old ways where the tank set killorder and overaggroing non target meant you were a noob |
14:47.52 | arkanes | of course, it's really just you being bitter, not a problem with the content |
14:48.03 | Kemayo | pompy: Thanks. I thought I'd cleaned up all of those. |
14:48.04 | arkanes | I did it in BC, too, on content we were farming |
14:48.13 | asmodai | Kemayo: cool, will test when I get home and let you know |
14:48.17 | arkanes | trivial content gets trivial levels of playing |
14:48.21 | arkanes | it's not a hard thing to realize |
14:48.28 | KriLL3 | well makes the tank's job harder |
14:48.33 | arkanes | no it doesn't |
14:48.44 | olafski | only if you let it make your jobs harder :P |
14:48.54 | olafski | I like it personally :) |
14:49.06 | arkanes | it hurts your pride, thats all |
14:49.08 | KriLL3 | if I need to ride my taunt button all day and try to keep aggro on a whole pack with dps hitting one each/all of them using big aoes etc yes it makes my life harder |
14:49.13 | arkanes | no you don't |
14:49.17 | arkanes | and no, it doesn't |
14:49.26 | olafski | usually I run in, do my rotation and just wait until everything is dead.. if someone takes aggro at least I get to do something :P |
14:49.31 | KriLL3 | since they assume I suck or something if I don't save them all the time |
14:49.41 | arkanes | okay, so they do |
14:49.44 | arkanes | what do you care? |
14:49.51 | olafski | really if it's this big a deal for you, just let one of them die and tell them to attack the assigned target next time |
14:49.57 | arkanes | or better yet |
14:50.00 | KriLL3 | just annoying that most of them clearly don't realize that what they're doing is undermining me |
14:50.08 | arkanes | realize that tank choosing the order isn't even really the traidtion |
14:50.22 | KriLL3 | olafski: I have, they always fly of the handles and the rest of the group sides with them, not me |
14:50.29 | arkanes | traditionally, the best DPS is the main assist, and *he* deterimines the kill order |
14:50.32 | KriLL3 | arkanes: errm, always been that way from my experience |
14:50.36 | arkanes | so find out what they're attacking and put threat on it |
14:50.42 | olafski | so what? :P they can try to vote you out, but if even one person agrees with you then they can't vote you out |
14:50.51 | arkanes | but then you're adapting to them instead of your big tank balls swinging, right? |
14:50.56 | KriLL3 | in the olden days the tank was party leader, and he marked showing kill order / cc |
14:51.07 | olafski | I don't remember that either tbh |
14:51.17 | arkanes | main assist was a vanilla raiding thing |
14:51.18 | KriLL3 | was like that in vanilla, TBC and most of LK |
14:51.21 | olafski | we didn't actually mark in normal dungeons back in the day, and in raids the raid leader would do it |
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14:51.22 | arkanes | predates marking |
14:51.41 | arkanes | but anyway |
14:51.45 | KriLL3 | at least in heroic 5 man |
14:51.49 | olafski | and the main assist yeah.. was no point having that be the tank as they had to change dungeons :P |
14:51.53 | olafski | heroic 5mans in vanilla? :D |
14:51.55 | arkanes | the thing here is that you want to be in charge and your pride is hurt that they're not cooperating |
14:51.58 | arkanes | so you have 2 choices |
14:52.04 | KriLL3 | olafski: well not in vanilla |
14:52.08 | KriLL3 | harder 5 mans in vanilla |
14:52.14 | arkanes | you can either get so good at your job that you're in charge whenther they like it or not |
14:52.18 | arkanes | or you can adapt to what they do |
14:52.27 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r146 ldb.lua: Fix right-click on ldb |
14:52.29 | arkanes | and get over the pride thing of "I'm the tank and I say what goes" |
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14:52.35 | olafski | I prefer the former.. but I play a DK so I get to faceroll :D |
14:53.00 | yoshimo | Whitetooth, yaiaps debug mode doesnt tell you which channel the addon tried to use, does it? |
14:53.01 | KriLL3 | arkanes: I'm a very good tank, but swipe spam can't compete with all out dps from people in raid gear |
14:53.08 | arkanes | KriLL3: well it doesn't sound like it |
14:53.11 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo 04v16 * r147 : Tagging as v16 |
14:53.11 | KriLL3 | and riding my taunt button isn't ideal |
14:53.23 | KriLL3 | arkanes: ask any feral, swipe doesn't stand up to dps |
14:53.24 | Kemayo | pompy: There you go. |
14:53.25 | Whitetooth | yoshimo: nope |
14:53.30 | olafski | 8 second taunt cd, 6 with 2t9.. bleeeh |
14:53.37 | arkanes | KriLL3: it sounds like you're an average tank with an ego problem |
14:53.41 | arkanes | KriLL3: I'm not disagreeing |
14:53.51 | KriLL3 | I'm well geared and skilled, but I guess I'm set in the old ways of tank being the leader |
14:53.56 | arkanes | KriLL3: so get better at AOE dps so you can hold the pack whether they like it or not |
14:54.00 | pompy | Kemayo: thanks |
14:54.03 | olafski | swipe does indeed not stand up to targeted dps.. but you have more abilities ;) |
14:54.09 | arkanes | I'm sure you're nto saying you have no room for improvment? |
14:54.14 | KriLL3 | olafski: maul and mangle |
14:54.20 | olafski | faery fire! :P |
14:54.33 | arkanes | I can hold a pack unless a DPS intentionally tries to pull it off men, and usually even then |
14:54.37 | olafski | and lacerate I think, I'm not at that level yet |
14:54.39 | KriLL3 | you want me to swap target all the time and hit everything with maul/mangle? that's hard work |
14:54.40 | arkanes | I am, of course, a facerollanoobadin |
14:54.46 | arkanes | KriLL3: okay then |
14:54.48 | olafski | ohnoes, tanking is hard work? |
14:54.52 | arkanes | KriLL3: you can either be lazy, or you can be in charge |
14:54.59 | arkanes | KriLL3: this seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me |
14:55.25 | KriLL3 | arkanes: or I can let the dps that's hitting the ranged mob I've hit once or twice to keep it off healer die horribly for being a moron |
14:55.31 | olafski | arkanes: yeah it's kinda odd how easy it is to keep aggro as a paladin.. I like tanking as a paladin but it seems a bit easy ;) |
14:55.32 | arkanes | and bear (tee hee!) in mind that you're talking about something that really doens't matter |
14:55.51 | olafski | krill3: you can, but you don't want to apparently.. just do that |
14:55.53 | arkanes | because a DPS can easily tank a heroic mob for a few seconds until it dies |
14:55.57 | arkanes | and if he cant, well, no biggie |
14:56.13 | olafski | btw kemayo, thanks it works again :D |
14:56.19 | arkanes | olafski: if you glyph maul its just as easy on a bear honestly |
14:56.40 | arkanes | olafski: swipe is better than consc and glyphed maul is at least as good as hammer |
14:56.42 | KriLL3 | olafski: with good players they realize that dps should at least have a modicum of sense and check their aggro, but in LFG pugs they seem to assume aggro is something the tank should handle at all times |
14:56.49 | olafski | yer I have that glyphed.. is nice.. but of course tanking is so easy in these low levels that my bear is at :) |
14:57.18 | olafski | krill3: as I said, let them die.. there's usually at least one other sensible person in the group who will vote no if they try to remove you |
14:57.32 | KriLL3 | I can hold aggro just fine if people do mild aoes/aoe after a while and hit my target / the one next to it my maul hits |
14:57.40 | arkanes | KriLL3: has this actually happened? |
14:57.52 | KriLL3 | arkanes: what has happened? |
14:57.59 | arkanes | KriLL3: I mean have yuo, as a tank, been kicked from a group because an AOE pack went after 3 people at once at kill all the DPS? |
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14:58.35 | arkanes | KriLL3: by the way if you check the feral forums there's a combination tab/swipe/maul macro that will easily hold an entire AOE back |
14:58.56 | KriLL3 | no not quite, but I've been foulmouthed by the party when 1-2 dps pulls aggro in much larger packs |
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14:59.03 | arkanes | if you're AOE tanking as a bear, you need to be tab targeting to spread the mauls around |
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14:59.46 | KriLL3 | that tab thing is foreign to me, and I'm not entirely sure I could hold aggro on that many mobs at once if I spread out the mauls & mangles that much |
14:59.47 | arkanes | KriLL3: well theres only 3 dps in a 5 man |
14:59.49 | Xtek | Mornin' |
15:00.05 | arkanes | KriLL3: sure you can |
15:00.13 | arkanes | KriLL3: remember that you don't need like 800k threat on everything |
15:00.30 | arkanes | the stuff dies fast |
15:00.40 | arkanes | often you won't need more than 50% of their health in threat |
15:00.51 | Pneumatus | bearswipe, surely |
15:01.06 | arkanes | 80% if all of the DPS are invidually single target burning 1 down |
15:02.16 | KriLL3 | arkanes: got a link to said macro/post about it? can't find it |
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15:02.32 | arkanes | it's not super complicated |
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15:02.47 | arkanes | <PROTECTED> |
15:02.59 | KriLL3 | in a cast sequence I guess? |
15:03.04 | arkanes | just linear |
15:03.11 | arkanes | only swipe is on the GCD |
15:03.14 | nevcairiel | maul is asynchron because its next-swing |
15:03.23 | arkanes | anyway, you don't really need it |
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15:03.47 | arkanes | but if you're not comfrotable tab targeting it can do it for you |
15:04.25 | arkanes | hmm I guess I saw it somewhere else |
15:04.41 | arkanes | should probably add a /startattack in there |
15:05.17 | KriLL3 | "targetnexttarget" on google gives me bupkis |
15:05.52 | yoshimo | shutting down pp and ef and ghost recon, no more "you arent in a X" ;) |
15:06.14 | olafski | krill3: arkanes just gave you the macro oO |
15:06.24 | KriLL3 | don't know the syntax |
15:06.37 | olafski | /targetnexttarget |
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15:07.01 | olafski | not a whole lot of syntax to it :P |
15:08.14 | arkanes | ah |
15:08.18 | arkanes | its /targetenemy |
15:08.32 | arkanes | (my bad) |
15:09.18 | olafski | hmm... /cast !Dire Bear Form will remove movement impairing effects? :S |
15:09.28 | arkanes | well |
15:09.40 | arkanes | it'll shift you, so yeah |
15:09.47 | olafski | wowwiki's "useful macros for druids" says it will do that even if you are already in bear form |
15:09.53 | arkanes | huh |
15:09.58 | olafski | sounds weird |
15:09.59 | KriLL3 | yes works |
15:10.00 | arkanes | the ! just supresses error text, right? |
15:10.03 | olafski | no |
15:10.12 | olafski | I thought it would "not cast if in this form already" |
15:10.22 | olafski | I use it for my hunter to do /cast !Aspect of the Dragonhawk |
15:10.30 | arkanes | ah okay |
15:10.36 | KriLL3 | well in forms it shifts you to the same form |
15:10.41 | KriLL3 | without ! you shift back to caster |
15:10.46 | olafski | strange :P |
15:10.48 | arkanes | I didn't know you could do that |
15:10.54 | arkanes | and yes, that is strange |
15:10.56 | olafski | that'll help me a lot |
15:11.02 | KriLL3 | well you're meant to toggle your forms like that |
15:11.03 | olafski | gotta make a macro for that when I get online again |
15:11.17 | arkanes | I didn't know you could switch to the same form without going through another one |
15:11.21 | KriLL3 | and yes I got macros for all my forms with ! |
15:11.23 | arkanes | you can't do it by clicking on the button |
15:11.38 | olafski | it will drop all your rage of course |
15:11.46 | olafski | or all but 10 if you have that talent |
15:11.50 | arkanes | or give you more, if you have the thing |
15:11.52 | arkanes | furor |
15:12.05 | arkanes | whee powershifting lives! |
15:12.14 | KriLL3 | well 10 isn't much of a boost |
15:12.23 | arkanes | better than 0 :P |
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15:12.40 | KriLL3 | all my forms are on my side mouse buttons, and they're all ! for that purpose |
15:13.01 | arkanes | I know I'm bad but I rarely shift to or from anythign except flight form |
15:13.09 | KriLL3 | one of the buttons got a macro that clears form, removes pet (vehicle) and dismounts etc |
15:13.31 | arkanes | numpad 5 is the default keybinding for leave vehicle, by the way |
15:13.31 | KriLL3 | basically my "return to caster" button since I can't do it with the other keys |
15:13.40 | vhaarr | Kemayo: take your time, I've been waiting months for the fix, I can wait a bit more :P |
15:13.44 | KriLL3 | arkanes: re-bound my numpad to be raid icons |
15:14.38 | KriLL3 | 1 is skull, 2 is x etc |
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15:14.55 | arkanes | I only have 3 of them on there |
15:15.07 | arkanes | and I use the rest for otherstuff |
15:15.09 | KriLL3 | I got em all, almost never use anything beyond skull though |
15:15.20 | olafski | my numpad is too far out of the way for me to bind anything on it :P |
15:15.26 | arkanes | I've got skull, x, square, so I can do 2 kill orders and a CC |
15:15.29 | arkanes | thats all I need to do on the fly |
15:15.39 | KriLL3 | olafski: generally the same for me, but to mark you don't really need to have your hand on your mouse |
15:15.52 | KriLL3 | can quickly move it |
15:16.19 | olafski | you don't need your hand on the mouse? what do you select targets with then :< |
15:16.33 | olafski | apparently there are addons that auto mark too.. have yet to try those |
15:16.36 | arkanes | olafski: target enemy, move hand, replace hand |
15:16.41 | KriLL3 | arkanes: yeah |
15:16.46 | olafski | oh.. you press the numpad with right hand, I guess that works |
15:16.48 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Turns out that the bagids for the guild bank don't seem to exist any more. I suppose I have to work out other ways of doing it. |
15:16.50 | arkanes | olafski: and I actually use tab target a lot |
15:16.55 | olafski | I use F6-F9 for marking though |
15:17.01 | vhaarr | Kemayo: note that mrplow supports guild bank sorting I believe |
15:17.06 | arkanes | my left hand has all my ability CDs |
15:17.07 | vhaarr | Kemayo: problem is it uses libperiodictable |
15:17.12 | vhaarr | for some reason |
15:17.23 | arkanes | so its actually the important one as far as tanking goes |
15:17.31 | arkanes | well, not all, but more than half |
15:17.53 | KriLL3 | main reason I got ! shifting is pvp ofc |
15:18.05 | KriLL3 | if I'm cc:ed I don't want to shift to another form and then back |
15:18.23 | KriLL3 | though it does come in handy while tanking, don't need to exit bearform |
15:18.43 | KriLL3 | though yes it does set your rage to 10, which isn't ideal if you had more |
15:20.12 | olafski | sometimes I get rooted and mobs run away from me, only to start casting just out of my reach |
15:20.18 | olafski | this'll help :) |
15:20.27 | arkanes | yeah I didnt know that you could do that |
15:20.34 | KriLL3 | yeah that's annoying |
15:20.39 | arkanes | I thought you had to burn at least a GCD in another form to powershift |
15:20.56 | KriLL3 | HoR & FoS both have a lot of annoying casters |
15:21.04 | KriLL3 | wish we had a ranged silence |
15:21.40 | KriLL3 | arkanes: "powershift" isn't really correct, only increases your rage if it was sub 10 |
15:21.54 | KriLL3 | in the past powershift was to restore energy in catform, which you can't anymore |
15:22.18 | KriLL3 | power increases steadily, though it does keep increasing outside of catform, and with furor you get to keep it when you enter catform again |
15:22.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r7088 Citadel/Lanathel.lua: fixed berserktimer (-10 seconds) |
15:22.37 | arkanes | KriLL3: in my world powershift means any use of the shifting mechanics as a toggle |
15:22.50 | KriLL3 | especially in pvp it's a good tactic to burn your energy in catform, then shift bear and deal some dmg, then shift back to cat when you got full energy |
15:22.50 | arkanes | so using it to clear roots counts, as well as the old trick of energy regen |
15:23.20 | arkanes | which honestly I thought was pretty cool |
15:23.50 | arkanes | and I think they should keep for kitty DPS, can simplify the rotation with catform talents that extend the duration of mangle when you rip or something similar |
15:25.50 | KriLL3 | naw don't think it's a good idea to keep the 40 energy thing in catform, but yes I think they should simplify feral rotations a bit, merge something with something else |
15:25.55 | KriLL3 | a lot to keep track of atm |
15:25.58 | arkanes | yeah |
15:26.05 | arkanes | mutilate was very similar at launch |
15:26.13 | arkanes | they can simplify cat the same way |
15:26.27 | KriLL3 | make rake a proc from other attacks perhaps kinda like warrior's crit bleed thing? |
15:26.53 | arkanes | well the biggest trick to kitty dps is juggling the duration of all the debuffs you need, as well as the energy to reapply them |
15:27.13 | arkanes | so removing just a couple of them from needing to be manually reapplied would make an enormous difference |
15:27.30 | arkanes | make rip refresh mangle, no more manglebotting |
15:27.37 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: is there a way to open eg outside of a party and eg summary in a party with a macro? |
15:27.55 | arkanes | that leaves rake and savage roar |
15:28.24 | KriLL3 | savage roar feels redundant imo, it's a flat 30% dmg increase and you should always have it up |
15:28.31 | arkanes | it's just like slice & dice |
15:28.37 | KriLL3 | increase our dmg 20%~ and remove SR |
15:28.42 | Megalon | SnD feels redundant imo, it's a flat 30% dmg increase and you should always have it up |
15:28.44 | arkanes | could make FB refresh roar |
15:28.48 | arkanes | that'd be interesting |
15:29.00 | KriLL3 | Megalon: sorry don't play rogue |
15:29.12 | KriLL3 | but yes that sounds equally redundant |
15:29.17 | Ackis | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/ :D |
15:29.17 | Megalon | it's a vital point of those classes for pvp |
15:29.23 | frontendloader | FB refreshing roar would be ridiculous |
15:29.31 | Ackis | @project Auracle |
15:29.32 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/auracle/. Auracle (De)Buff Monitor. Game: WoW. taleden (Manager/Author). Updated: 41 hours ago. Tickets: 7/24 |
15:29.33 | arkanes | its how they make you care about doing your rotation |
15:29.55 | Megalon | would be nice if every dk strike |
15:29.56 | arkanes | frontendloader: I'm not interested in the balance of the DPS involved, just what a more fun rotation would be |
15:30.01 | Megalon | would reset disease durations |
15:30.06 | Megalon | because PS/IT feel so redundant |
15:30.36 | arkanes | Megalon: you don't refresh with pest? |
15:30.51 | arkanes | I suppose blood wouldn't |
15:30.55 | KriLL3 | Megalon: well DKs are already faceroll, ferals are one of the most complicated "rotations" out there |
15:32.59 | Ackis | the url: http://static.wowace.com/content/files/410/359/Auracle-r88.zip/Auracle/license.txt == Auracle r88 and license.txt ? |
15:33.27 | Ackis | nevcairiel: did you see the wowace report earlier? |
15:33.44 | nevcairiel | should i have? |
15:33.51 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/home/private-messages/1324-report-r88/ |
15:34.01 | Ackis | meh that URL may not work |
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15:34.17 | nevcairiel | the url works |
15:34.31 | nevcairiel | but the url in the post is 404 for me |
15:34.35 | Ackis | yeah |
15:34.37 | Ackis | same |
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15:34.46 | Ackis | that's what I'm trying to figure out before I dismiss this guy as a moron |
15:34.48 | nevcairiel | maybe he just means the file in the zip? |
15:34.50 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
15:35.50 | arkanes | that looks like MIT to me |
15:36.01 | arkanes | at least in essence |
15:36.33 | KriLL3 | errm, why doesn't /startattack; /targetenemy; /cast Maul; /cast Swipe; work? (enter after each ;) doesn't cycle targets, just mauls the same one over and over, no swipes either |
15:36.50 | olafski | because you already have an enemy targeted I guess |
15:37.02 | arkanes | <PROTECTED> |
15:37.12 | KriLL3 | doesn't exit |
15:37.26 | KriLL3 | "Type '/help'..." |
15:37.27 | olafski | hm no targetenemy should target the next one according to wowwiki |
15:37.48 | KriLL3 | does, but it doesn't in the macro |
15:37.59 | arkanes | put the startattack after it |
15:38.00 | olafski | oh I have an unrelated question.. could anyone recommend a really simple buff watching thing in which I can watch the duration of hunger for blood and slice & dice? mostly slice & dice.. it keeps running out before I remember to refresh it |
15:38.14 | KriLL3 | arkanes: nope |
15:38.28 | arkanes | olafski: there are many! |
15:38.38 | krka | olafski: i have a simple addon locally that makes the button blink when it needs to be reapplied |
15:38.47 | arkanes | olafski: I actually wrote my own, but I have been a lazy sod and the published version doesn't work anymore |
15:38.49 | olafski | aye I know.. I've never had a use for them but this is kinda important :P |
15:39.02 | krka | but not ready for publish :/ |
15:39.04 | arkanes | olafski: just go to the rogue section of any addon site and choose from the billions |
15:39.25 | olafski | krka: I need to know it before it wears off in this case, since evisc/envenom will reset S&D to its max duration |
15:39.30 | Pneumatus | olafski: i use needtoknow |
15:39.46 | olafski | I use TellMeWhen to notify me when something has actually worn off.. perhaps I can have it show S&D at all times or something |
15:39.58 | krka | olafski: i was actually thinking of using a cooldown count of sorts to show the debuff time left on the actionbutton |
15:40.09 | Pneumatus | either TMW with a timer on the icon, or NTK with a bar for duration |
15:40.15 | krka | should be easy enough to add |
15:40.19 | arkanes | krka: theres an addon already that does that too :P |
15:40.23 | krka | this is for my dps cat, but same principle for rogues |
15:40.31 | krka | arkanes: yeah, i just prefer to write my own stuff |
15:40.31 | olafski | yer guess I'll try to use TMW.. last time I tried those timers, they didn't do anything |
15:40.35 | arkanes | any of the various cycle mods do it |
15:40.42 | krka | and i cant be assed to search amoung billions of addons |
15:40.48 | Ackis | olafski: I'm owning Hasbro Family Game Night!!! |
15:40.52 | arkanes | I'm not kidding, theres at least a dozen different rogue ones that all work in basically the same way |
15:41.03 | arkanes | mines called CandyDice and its on wowi |
15:41.11 | asmodai | Mmm |
15:41.13 | olafski | ackis: yay.. :P |
15:41.14 | arkanes | if you think you'd want to use it I can push a version that might actually work for someone |
15:41.15 | krka | i'll have a look |
15:41.21 | asmodai | Got a new email from Google recruitment. |
15:41.42 | krka | does candydice overlay the countdown on the action buttons? |
15:41.52 | arkanes | no, it creates timer bars |
15:41.56 | krka | i see |
15:42.09 | arkanes | I was really talking to olafski :P |
15:42.19 | arkanes | I don't rememeber the name of the one I saw that put it on the action button |
15:42.50 | krka | i'll just tweak my own, it's really trivial work |
15:43.00 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.11-5-ga68e0a3 Code/Triggers.lua: [+1 commit] cache triggericon-paths |
15:43.29 | arkanes | olafski: NeedToKnow is a good addon in this vein |
15:43.57 | arkanes | and I really should start using it instead of mine, since it' got all the features I never got around to adding |
15:44.28 | krka | heh |
15:45.24 | olafski | arkanes: cheers, I'll check that out ;) |
15:45.53 | olafski | looks like it'll do what I want.. and a whole lot more, but I guess I'll have to live with that :) |
15:46.03 | arkanes | mines a fast, dark, lightweight theme :P |
15:46.13 | krka | hmm... seems like i'm the only one who wants this info on my buttons |
15:46.16 | sb|work | @describe NeedToKnow |
15:46.17 | Repo | sb|work: No project found that matches 'needtoknow' |
15:46.30 | sb|work | arkanes: its not there! |
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15:46.56 | arkanes | its hosted on wowi |
15:47.15 | krka | and curse? |
15:47.25 | arkanes | looks like it uses curseforges tickets, but wowis repo |
15:47.43 | Pneumatus | @project need-to-know |
15:47.45 | arkanes | or not |
15:47.48 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/need-to-know/. NeedToKnow. Game: WoW. Kitjan (Manager/Author), lieandswell (Former author). Updated: 11 days ago. Tickets: 11/23 |
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15:48.24 | sb|work | @describe need-to-know |
15:48.25 | Repo | sb|work: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/need-to-know/. NeedToKnow. NeedToKnow is a light-weight addon to monitor specific buffs, debuffs, and totems of your choosing as timer bars that always ... |
15:48.28 | krka | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/need-to-know.aspx |
15:48.37 | arkanes | god I should go to work |
15:48.40 | arkanes | but I don't want to |
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16:02.00 | KriLL3 | is there a way to make a macro only target enemy NPCs? |
16:02.26 | Megalon | has the npc the exact same name as a player/pet? |
16:02.41 | KriLL3 | it's not a specific NPC |
16:02.45 | Megalon | /targetenemy ... |
16:02.53 | KriLL3 | also targets enemy players |
16:03.04 | Megalon | well then |
16:05.05 | arkanes | well they are enemies |
16:11.16 | sb|work | MAH |
16:11.19 | sb|work | <-- pissed |
16:11.34 | sb|work | one of my officers got "hacked" last night, all primordial saronite gone |
16:11.52 | KriLL3 | sure he didn't just covet it himself? |
16:11.55 | sb|work | and he things of quitting wow now (that means we will never get that stuff back :o) |
16:12.03 | sb|work | yes :o |
16:12.28 | sb|work | officer for ~3 years now, i know him personally etc. - thats not the point |
16:12.37 | sb|work | "hacker" attached authenticator to his account, wtf... |
16:13.05 | sb|work | i still don't get wtf all those people are doing with their passwords |
16:13.19 | Megalon | they all have one password |
16:13.21 | sb|work | (not getting an authenticator is another point, i know... *sigh*) |
16:13.24 | Megalon | and use it for everything |
16:13.29 | sb|work | maybe... |
16:13.38 | Megalon | most of the time they even sign there personal email with it |
16:13.45 | Megalon | because it is there fucking surname |
16:13.51 | Megalon | or 123456 |
16:13.54 | Megalon | one of the two :P |
16:14.20 | KriLL3 | I couldn't tell you my password even if I wanted to =P |
16:14.26 | KriLL3 | very long random thing |
16:14.46 | sb|work | so copy&past every time? :p |
16:14.48 | sb|work | paste even |
16:15.03 | KriLL3 | no I input it using a password manager that auto fills the form in the login |
16:15.46 | KriLL3 | requires another password to work and my machine locks itself after 10mins of disuse / keybind that requires another long key |
16:16.05 | sb|work | what software are you using? still looking for some GOOD software *sigh* |
16:16.26 | KriLL3 | it's a very custom hacked together script |
16:16.37 | KriLL3 | and it makes use of my n52te |
16:17.23 | arkanes | sb|work: you can apply for recovery even if the hacked person isn't in control of the account, or leaves wow |
16:17.31 | KriLL3 | my computer can't be unlocked btw without a tiny usb memory stick being connected on the right USB port that's well hidden |
16:17.44 | sb|work | arkanes: oh? good thing then.. but anyway i hope he will return ;) |
16:17.45 | arkanes | we had a guld member on vacation get hacked and loot the bank, I got everything back and they shut the account down |
16:17.54 | KriLL3 | it's also my keyring, so I take it along when I leave the house |
16:18.13 | arkanes | KriLL3: they have a thing like that that works over bluetooth |
16:18.22 | KriLL3 | yeah but I don't trust bluetooth |
16:18.23 | arkanes | KriLL3: you don't need to attach it, just be near |
16:18.37 | arkanes | why would you trust usb but not bluetooth? |
16:18.52 | KriLL3 | bluetooth is glitchy, slow, annoying etc |
16:19.04 | arkanes | ah so not an actual reason :P |
16:19.27 | arkanes | also why do you have a hacked up USB thing instead of just a standard smartcard? |
16:19.32 | KriLL3 | besides this was free, just used a robust USB stick I had around |
16:19.33 | arkanes | (easy to clone your USB keychain drive) |
16:20.06 | KriLL3 | arkanes: well no not really, uses a unique key system that's a cipher of various information about the stick |
16:20.23 | arkanes | I'm not sure I believe you |
16:20.24 | KriLL3 | manufacturer info etc |
16:20.36 | KriLL3 | then don't |
16:20.46 | arkanes | ah you mean the unverifiable information thats in the eprom on the stick? |
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16:21.00 | arkanes | slightly harder to clone than just the data on the drive I suppose |
16:21.01 | KriLL3 | well true, but it's not as easy as just copying a file |
16:21.17 | KriLL3 | also it has to be the same size, not terribly harder either I suppose, but still something |
16:21.17 | arkanes | a smartcards still better |
16:21.28 | arkanes | no, it just has to say its the same size |
16:21.34 | KriLL3 | arkanes: yes but then you need to buy a card and reader etc |
16:22.03 | arkanes | I should see if I can make the fingerprint reader on my laptop work |
16:22.18 | Megalon | haha, usb sticks |
16:22.53 | Megalon | best thing was a few weeks ago, about usb sticks with encryption in hardware |
16:23.05 | arkanes | theres a lot of those on the market |
16:23.10 | arkanes | they're lies, of course |
16:23.11 | Megalon | and then they found out |
16:23.21 | Megalon | that not the password was sent to the sticks |
16:23.27 | Megalon | but always the same string |
16:23.51 | arkanes | my wife has something thats branded as some sort of secure encrypted USB |
16:23.53 | Megalon | password was only veryfied in the pc itself |
16:23.57 | Megalon | pretty hilarious |
16:24.08 | arkanes | but its all done in software with a driver it tries to install with autorun |
16:24.09 | KriLL3 | facepalm |
16:24.37 | KriLL3 | yeah I've seen some U3 "secure" sticks as well, wouldn't trust anything to something like that |
16:24.43 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r148 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
16:24.45 | Repo | Problem with guild bank sorting is that guild-bank-replacement addons which suppress loading of Blizzard_GuildBankUI (like Bagnon) stop MAX_GUILDBANK_SLOTS_PER_TAB from existing. Add a LoadAddOn to get around this. |
16:24.54 | Kemayo | vhaarr: That fixed it for me. |
16:24.54 | arkanes | lots of snake oil out there |
16:25.06 | vhaarr | Kemayo: cool let me reboot for kernel update then I will test it |
16:25.24 | KriLL3 | putting a trucrypt volume on a usb stick is far more secure right? |
16:25.48 | arkanes | its exactly as secure as a trucrypt volume anywhere else |
16:26.03 | arkanes | module paranoia about mitm attacks on your USB hardware |
16:26.04 | KriLL3 | what I figured |
16:26.27 | arkanes | what if someone has an induction tracer on your northbridge? |
16:26.31 | arkanes | WHAT THEN, MISTER BOND |
16:27.43 | KriLL3 | did you see the "hacking" in transformers? snake like metal tentacles moving around PCBs latching on at random places |
16:28.05 | arkanes | that is not a thing I saw |
16:28.06 | KriLL3 | all that would accomplish is short circuiting the whole thing |
16:28.17 | arkanes | maybe they're smart snakes |
16:28.23 | KriLL3 | right... |
16:28.27 | Tentacled | random is what you saw. |
16:28.47 | arkanes | Tentacled: it was YOU! |
16:28.56 | Tentacled | applying precise electric impulses to just the right spots... |
16:29.10 | Tentacled | oh shush, that was cousin Pete. |
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16:30.05 | vhaarr | Kemayo: yeah seems fine, sorting as we speak |
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16:31.08 | vhaarr | Kemayo: but it broke bagnon |
16:31.10 | Kemayo | Shiny. |
16:31.18 | Kemayo | How so? |
16:31.26 | vhaarr | Kemayo: previously when I opened my guildbank only the bagnon gb frame would open |
16:31.33 | vhaarr | after running bankstack, the blizzard frame opens as well |
16:31.39 | vhaarr | when I visit the bank again |
16:31.57 | Kemayo | Hm, okay. |
16:32.20 | Kemayo | I suppose I'll just hardcode the constant in bankstack. It's unlikely to ever change, after all. |
16:33.38 | arkanes | ooh theres some famous last words |
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16:35.29 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r149 core.lua: Just hardcode the constant instead of loading guildbankui. |
16:35.34 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Should be no problem now. |
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16:36.27 | Kemayo | I just need to remember I did that, in case they ever change the size of bank tabs. |
16:37.43 | vhaarr | cool |
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16:39.39 | Megalon | hardcodes COMMON_SENSE into Fisker's brain |
16:39.56 | Megalon | no watch the world collide |
16:40.04 | Megalon | s/no/now/ |
16:46.44 | Repo | 10libquixote-2-0: 03Kemayo * r85 LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: |
16:46.46 | Repo | Handle new 'log' objective-type, which seems to have replaced 'event'. Or maybe is just sometimes used in place of it. |
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16:53.48 | cncfanatics | Anyone know of any gridstatusswiftmend addons ? That'd show if my target is swiftmendable ? (I don't want to use the rejuv & regrowth indicators as I wouldn't be able to use em for hot display then .. (Because of "show only mine" ) |
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16:55.46 | yoshimo | witness the fury of the cosmos megalon^^ |
16:59.17 | cncfanatics | No gridswiftmend anywhere ? :( |
17:01.53 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r150 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
17:01.55 | Repo | Use the broker object to show how many moves are remaining. (Mostly useful for guild bank sorts, since everything else is over quickly.) |
17:02.07 | pompy | cncfanatics: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid-status-hots/ is the only closest thing i could find, but guess doesn't help still as i dont see swiftmend listed in it |
17:02.17 | cncfanatics | Yeah, I think I'll just make one |
17:02.25 | cncfanatics | Is there any howtos anywhere on how to write grid modules ? |
17:04.27 | steev | UGH |
17:04.36 | steev | 3120 cheapest Primo Saronite currently :/ |
17:05.04 | profalbert | :( only 2300 here |
17:05.22 | steev | i wish ours would drop to those prices |
17:05.38 | steev | now that a few people have shadow's edge they are tryin to make some of their money back |
17:05.41 | yoshimo | 1800 here its dropping |
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17:07.09 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: what did I bandaid? |
17:07.16 | nevcairiel | the server |
17:07.32 | Kaelten | ? |
17:07.47 | nevcairiel | with the reboot instead of fixing the reason for the reboot :d |
17:07.59 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.1-8-g71f5fef modules/tags.lua: [+1 commit] Power tags shouldn't show a negative number on last Drak'tharon keep boss |
17:08.14 | Kaelten | ah yeah. sadly the reason for the reboot defies discovering |
17:08.35 | nevcairiel | didnt you kinda establish that svnserve is to blame? |
17:08.39 | durcyn | what was the beef? |
17:08.53 | nevcairiel | the thing just dies |
17:09.57 | Kaelten | that's my speculation |
17:10.08 | Kaelten | but regular restarts/killing of svnserve didn't fix it |
17:10.33 | Kaelten | that and the packager and documenter need a good going over to make sure they're working properly as daemons |
17:10.35 | Kaelten | still not sure of that |
17:10.56 | nevcairiel | you should finish cc4 already |
17:11.24 | Kaelten | I'm getting to a point here, hopefully by the end of the month, where I'm going to start splitting my time more. |
17:11.29 | sb|work | Megalon: mh, i'm pretty sure he didn't use that password on other sites/games/... and it was a number+letter combination password |
17:11.33 | sb|work | so no idea how that happened :/ |
17:11.57 | sb|work | computer is ~clean (its no stupid "i dont have a clue, there is no virus!!!" guy) |
17:12.02 | yoshimo | i think forum messaging and the rest of wowaces pms should access the same messages but i can wait for it |
17:12.21 | Kaelten | I'll be soooo fucking happy when I can shelve the 10.4 support |
17:12.30 | Kaelten | yoshimo: ya it's on the list as it were. |
17:12.41 | Kaelten | I also have a lot I want to do with tickets |
17:12.51 | Kaelten | and revamp the whole notification/subscriptions system |
17:13.56 | nevcairiel | You should just wait for the 10.4 LTS of ubuntu and redo the server with that, hopefully solving the issue :D |
17:14.23 | Kaelten | ya, that's coming in april right? |
17:14.38 | vhaarr | .4 is the month, so yes |
17:14.57 | cncfanatics | server .. Ubuntu .. |
17:15.01 | nevcairiel | yeah their releases are always easy to guess :d |
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17:16.12 | Kaelten | lol I just know it's every april and october |
17:16.16 | yoshimo | cncfanatics whats wrong with ubuntu servers? |
17:16.26 | cncfanatics | Isn't ubuntu a desktop distro , |
17:16.28 | cncfanatics | ?* |
17:16.30 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: yes we have about 12 or so ubuntu servers. |
17:16.30 | nevcairiel | <year>.<month> .. 10.4 :P |
17:16.40 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: lol, fair enough |
17:16.53 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: they are, they also have a good general purpose server distro |
17:17.19 | yoshimo | you can run your desktop /server with debian or suse as well |
17:17.41 | nevcairiel | i run debian stable on my web server in teh interwebz |
17:17.57 | cncfanatics | I tend to use arch/gentoo |
17:18.33 | Kaelten | I looked at gentoo once, have a friend who used to do their python package management, seemed like too much work for the reward in my use case. |
17:19.56 | nevcairiel | the reward is to simply get out of the evil "release cycle" business and get updates whenever they are considered stable, imho thats a great thing :) |
17:20.07 | nevcairiel | the initial setup is a bit more work, although on a server, not even that much |
17:20.43 | nevcairiel | but if you don't know the "gentoo way", you might have to learn a bit more |
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17:26.19 | vhaarr | that's the same for all distros though, some more than others of course |
17:26.23 | vhaarr | gentoo might be one of those |
17:27.09 | vhaarr | I haven't tried slackware since ... probably the 4.x days |
17:27.18 | vhaarr | been considering giving it a go again soon |
17:27.25 | nevcairiel | like i said its not that much for servers, as you usually don't want/need any default generated settings, just for Desktops gentoo doesnt provide a pre-configured desktop environment that just works |
17:27.40 | nevcairiel | which stops alot of people that just want to try it :D |
17:27.59 | vhaarr | yeah but there's some kind of gentoo-based livecd though |
17:28.02 | vhaarr | I forgot the name |
17:28.09 | nevcairiel | they have their own livedvd |
17:28.12 | nevcairiel | which works fine |
17:28.28 | vhaarr | it boots to a desktop? |
17:28.31 | nevcairiel | yea |
17:28.33 | vhaarr | it didn't do that when I tried it, years ago |
17:28.36 | nevcairiel | its pretty new, october or so |
17:28.59 | nevcairiel | they officially released it as 10.0 for the 10th anniversary of gentoo |
17:29.07 | nevcairiel | i think there is 10.1 now with some fixes |
17:29.29 | nevcairiel | but those versions just go for the livedvd, inside the distro they don't matter :D |
17:29.35 | vhaarr | ye |
17:29.59 | vhaarr | I don't appreciate the release-based stuff either, I like moving targets |
17:30.03 | vhaarr | like gentoo or rawhide |
17:30.21 | nevcairiel | is rawhide source based too? |
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17:30.58 | vhaarr | no, it's just the development head |
17:31.22 | vhaarr | you know like in ubuntu you have the distros; "karmic", "lucid", etc |
17:31.25 | vhaarr | when one is released |
17:31.27 | nevcairiel | oh wait, rawhide is fedora, yeah |
17:31.32 | vhaarr | you have to manually edit apt.conf to point to the new one |
17:31.39 | vhaarr | while for rawhide you don't have to do that, or gentoo |
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17:32.23 | vhaarr | or debians unstable/experimental either |
17:32.54 | nevcairiel | well binary distros still have the link-level dependency problem when releasing stuff, can't just compile against whatever version is installed, it has to match the package you are getting .. which is why on debian the backports exist, instead of just installing a package from unstable |
17:33.11 | vhaarr | yeah there's backports for ubuntu as well |
17:39.08 | nevcairiel | meh i need some movie to watch tonight |
17:39.41 | haste | naked blood! |
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17:42.14 | nevcairiel | too bad voddler stopped working for me, guess they finally figured out how to block non-swedish people :D |
17:44.38 | vhaarr | Private Valentine - Blond and Dangerous |
17:44.39 | asmodai | Kemayo: Works as it should, 5s rule. |
17:44.45 | vhaarr | Blonde* |
17:45.27 | nevcairiel | preferable something i can also find in my video on demand service here! |
17:45.37 | vhaarr | :P |
17:45.51 | vhaarr | The All Together, Righteous Kill, Bolt, Idiocracy |
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17:48.31 | cncfanatics | Is there any intrest at all for a GridStatusSwiftmend addon ? I just finished it :P |
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17:52.20 | cncfanatics | Guess not \o/ Then I won't feel guilty not releasing it |
17:52.57 | yoshimo | not everyone is hanging around in this channel that could need it ;) |
17:53.30 | nevcairiel | I am a druid and i don't really see the use, tbh :d |
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17:55.42 | cncfanatics | I have a display for my own hots using the regular regrowth/rejuv indicators |
17:55.50 | cncfanatics | The swiftmend one is handy because you can also swiftmend other people's hots |
17:55.53 | Torhal | Kaelten: WTB less-evil Ackis. |
17:55.58 | cncfanatics | And you usualy won't have those displayed anywhere |
17:58.27 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: Basicly just a very tiny thing I was missing and is sometimes handy :P |
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18:04.54 | Kaelten | Torhal: if you build it they will come |
18:05.23 | Torhal | Kaelten: -^ |
18:08.18 | Repo | 10epgpreserves (experimental): 03felsir * r3 embeds.xml: updated embeds.xml |
18:09.05 | asmodai | Anyone want some springrolls? |
18:09.08 | Ackis | Torhal: hahah |
18:09.29 | Repo | 10epgpreserves (experimental): 03felsir 04v1.0release * r4 : 1st release |
18:11.50 | sb|work | describe epgpreserves |
18:11.52 | sb|work | @describe epgpreserves |
18:11.53 | sb|work | damn |
18:11.53 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/epgpreserves/. EPGPreserves. Make handling reservist EP easy (EPGP system) |
18:15.47 | asmodai | kandarz: Around? |
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18:25.47 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i'll take some |
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18:40.00 | Torhal | Ackis: :( |
18:41.18 | Ackis | I owned you Torhal :D |
18:41.32 | Torhal | Down with douchebaggery! |
18:41.34 | Torhal | :D |
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18:42.05 | durcyn | yeah, but how are we going to get rid of the entire country of canada, Torhal? |
18:42.24 | Torhal | durcyn: Tacticle nukes? |
18:42.30 | Torhal | Tactical* |
18:42.39 | durcyn | testicle nukes? |
18:42.49 | Torhal | durcyn: That may just work. |
18:43.08 | durcyn | certainly would sterilize the hockey loving bastards |
18:43.31 | Torhal | durcyn: Just don't let Cairenn know what you're planning. |
18:44.00 | Cairenn | smacks durcyn around with a clue-by-four! |
18:44.18 | durcyn | don't worry, you'll all be speaking english when we annex you for oil, Cairenn |
18:45.02 | Cairenn | I already speak English |
18:45.25 | durcyn | we all know you're a closet quebecois |
18:45.35 | Cairenn | um |
18:45.38 | Cairenn | no? |
18:45.53 | durcyn | look, you don't have to be ashamed anymore |
18:45.58 | durcyn | it's okay, it's okay to speak french |
18:46.32 | Aeyan | Until we bomb them, right? |
18:46.37 | Aeyan | Then it's not cool. |
18:48.30 | Ackis | the quebecois say they want to put a wall around their province... I say let them do it! then we can fill it with water :D |
18:52.32 | Ackis | no one liked my joke |
18:52.34 | Ackis | :( |
18:54.59 | durcyn | it was a canadian joke. |
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19:12.09 | taleden | Ackis: I was confused by that ticket too.. he reported a plain text license file in my package as a virus, but then immediately marked his own ticket invalid |
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19:12.32 | taleden | I downloaded the package to make sure the included file really was still the plain text license it should be, and it is *shrug* |
19:13.34 | asmodai | This game never ceases to amaze me. |
19:13.42 | asmodai | Someone advertises his guild ' Euro Death Killer ' |
19:13.53 | asmodai | someone named 'bumeyes' complains about it being a bad name. |
19:13.56 | asmodai | I love the irony there. |
19:14.31 | Ackis | taleden: his virus scanner is set up to be hard core, it's the name of your addon basically causing it to screw up. I've had people say their scanners break when I had "wormhole generator" in a comment in my code |
19:14.55 | taleden | weird |
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19:23.35 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: http://paste.wowace.com/1657/ first: on "view" of an existing, empty filter; second: on creation of a new (and thus: empty) filter |
19:25.56 | ckknight | is there a good way to capture all the errors that a single addon creates? |
19:27.03 | Kuosi | buggrabber doesn't pull through or? |
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19:37.23 | Gnarfoz | it's not addon-specific, it will capture all errors, though |
19:37.34 | Gnarfoz | dunno if there's a bug capture addon that has filtering |
19:37.39 | Gnarfoz | ~seen shadowed |
19:37.41 | purl | shadowed <n=Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 33m 38s ago, saying: 'ahhh'. |
19:43.52 | vhaarr | you can easily write a filter for buggrabber anyway |
19:44.04 | vhaarr | on top of bugsack even it's just adding 3 lines of code |
19:52.52 | koaschten | hmmm are addons using libHealComm-3.0 automagically repacked with 4.0 at some point? |
19:53.38 | nevcairiel | no |
19:54.33 | koaschten | any easy way to cut down on the redundant 3.0 and 4.0 comms? |
19:55.46 | nevcairiel | poke the authors of the addons still using 3.0 until they switch |
19:56.22 | koaschten | so its kinda write suggestion ticket and pray? |
19:56.37 | Ackis | you poke harder over time |
19:57.02 | koaschten | oh i'd like to punch people over standard tcp/ip but i dont think thats implemented yet either ;) |
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20:04.20 | Gnarfoz | can I /click other macros by name or just by button name? |
20:10.09 | vhaarr | koaschten: if the repository for the addon is open just patch it yourself |
20:10.39 | asmodai | Antiarc: Got a SexyCooldown bug for ya, Profiles > Copy From will add to a specific configuration instead of replacing it. |
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20:11.19 | koaschten | was more of a general observation while watching tv and being outside the instance in a guild social pug raid and well... you guess it, more curiosity and boredom, asking and stuff ;) |
20:11.29 | asmodai | Antiarc: Or at least, it shows entries in the bars drop down, however they don't seem to have retained their configuration though. |
20:12.10 | durcyn | the profile copy stuff is part of ace, he's probably just doing like every other addon and forgetting to do anything with the OnProfileChanged callback |
20:12.28 | durcyn | Antiarc: for shame! |
20:13.23 | durcyn | (or OnProfileCopied, as the case may be) |
20:15.24 | nevcairiel | yeah apparently that system is too complicated for devs <.< |
20:15.35 | nevcairiel | only a few addons do it properly |
20:15.51 | durcyn | my ace3 ones do! |
20:16.29 | Xinhuan | omen3 does it properly! |
20:18.08 | asmodai | gives Xinhuan a cookie |
20:18.24 | Xinhuan | without using the :Disable() :Enable() trick many ppl do too |
20:18.32 | asmodai | nevcairiel / durcyn: Will it keep the erroneous information around or is it merely in the UI? |
20:18.49 | Xtek | Put the cookie down! |
20:20.16 | Groktar | i wish there was a way to make postal send to a different chat frame |
20:20.27 | Groktar | pokes |
20:21.55 | durcyn | asmodai: basically, unless you reread the db on a profile change, then redraw everything, it's going to stay as-is until the next time the db is referenced |
20:22.13 | durcyn | which may be never |
20:22.36 | durcyn | so, firstly, reloadui; and, secondly, yell at Antiarc |
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20:37.10 | asmodai | durcyn: ok, good to know |
20:37.24 | asmodai | Xtek: You want a cookie too? |
20:37.35 | Xtek | asmodai, could I? |
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20:40.29 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1212 / (12 files in 2 directories): |
20:40.31 | Repo | - Fixed incorrect period display on Starfall and Death and decay |
20:40.33 | Repo | - Added option to select the amount of targets to assume in AoE calculations. This is a work in progress and don't expect it to work on everything yet. |
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20:49.59 | kandarz | asmodai: I'll be back in 4 hours, we'll talk then |
20:51.59 | asmodai | kandarz: Doubt I'll be awake |
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20:52.06 | asmodai | kandarz: will mail you the details :) |
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21:00.05 | Repo | 10handy-notes_city-guide: 03zarevak * r26 / (3 files in 2 directories): koKR translation by "cakehouse" |
21:00.07 | Repo | ruRU translation by "Zuz666" |
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21:08.04 | Repo | 10handy-notes_city-guide: 03zarevak 04v1.0.10 Release * r27 : Tagging as v1.0.10 Release. |
21:08.05 | Repo | - koKR translation by "cakehouse" |
21:08.07 | Repo | - ruRU translation by "Zuz666" |
21:08.08 | Repo | Thank you both! |
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21:09.29 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r77 HandyNotes_Trainers.toc: updated zhTW localization by andy52005. Thank you! |
21:09.50 | Fisker | @project blessed |
21:09.53 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 17 days ago |
21:10.40 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.2.13 Release * r78 : Tagging as v1.2.13 Release. |
21:10.42 | Repo | - updated zhTW localization by "andy52005". Thank you! |
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21:12.40 | yoshimo | fisker, is your brain so weak already? your asking repo about that addon every 2minutes^^ |
21:13.13 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak * r74 / (2 files in 2 directories): added ruRU localization by Zuz666 |
21:13.15 | Repo | updated zhTW localization by andy52005 |
21:13.16 | Repo | Thank you! |
21:13.40 | Stanzilla | np |
21:14.53 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak 04v1.2.4 Release * r75 : Tagging as v1.2.4 Release. |
21:14.55 | Repo | - added ruRU localization by "Zuz666" |
21:14.56 | Repo | - updated zhTW localization by "andy52005" |
21:14.57 | Repo | Thank you both! |
21:17.21 | Repo | 10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r31 / (2 files in 2 directories): added zhTW localization by "andy52005". Thank you! |
21:17.49 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r1213 Data/Shaman.lua: Shaman coefficients updated. |
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21:20.09 | DarkAudit | just had a pop-up window about the curse auto-updater... this is supposed to happen? |
21:26.25 | Repo | 10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak 04v0.8.1 Beta * r32 : Tagging as v0.8.1 Beta. |
21:26.27 | Repo | - added zhTW localization by "andy52005". Thank you! |
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21:27.45 | yoshimo | DarkAudit, it will show its changelog if it updates |
21:29.47 | DarkAudit | I had version 3... went ahead and installed version 4 from the web site just to be safe |
21:31.29 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: http://paste.wowace.com/1657/ first: on "view" of an existing, empty filter; second: on creation of a new (and thus: empty) filter |
21:32.09 | Shadowed | post a ticket for it so I don't forget, will look tomorrow need to do other stuff today |
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21:40.30 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r1214 Data/Mage.lua: Mage coefficients updated. |
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21:43.04 | nevcairiel | we havent had any of that spam here, why are we afraid now? |
21:43.16 | nevcairiel | tbh, i get more spams from opers warning me about spam then actual spam |
21:44.01 | yoshimo | i never seen any spam in here, except fisker |
21:46.22 | Repo | 10incubator2: 03Morgalm * r7 Modules/Incubator2_ICC/ICC.lua: Incubator2 |
21:46.24 | Repo | -added ICC crimson wing trash |
21:48.01 | yoshimo | incubator is back in action? nice one |
21:49.14 | durcyn | guess morgalm got unlazy before i did |
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21:49.44 | Stanzilla | you can get unlazy with quartz3 |
21:50.06 | Groktar | sets fire to Stanzilla |
21:50.25 | Groktar | only typing the first letter of someone's name before tabbing is a very bad idea in this channel |
21:50.42 | nevcairiel | if you have last-spoke order it usually works out |
21:51.00 | Groktar | true |
21:51.30 | Stanzilla | i always fuck up on shefki/shirik .( |
21:51.34 | Groktar | mmm some guy selling ametrines for 60g in trade |
21:51.45 | Shirik | ... |
21:51.49 | Stanzilla | :p |
21:52.02 | Stanzilla | you shouldn't get highlighted with the "/"! |
21:52.03 | Groktar | i bought six |
21:52.05 | Groktar | >.> |
21:53.01 | harl | wth.. i just saw a druid "flying" on a fast ground mount in his fast flying form, at the speed of the ground mount |
21:53.04 | harl | oO |
21:53.49 | nevcairiel | yeah that bug happens |
21:53.56 | Groktar | that's awesome |
21:54.31 | nevcairiel | if the mount summoning lags you can cast the flying form in between the mount cast and its appearance |
21:54.55 | nevcairiel | well its a bit more to it then that, but yeah :d |
21:55.59 | yoshimo | the dalaran lag causes me to swim through the air if i dismount over the town ;) |
21:56.51 | nevcairiel | i can usually fly 4 circles in dalaran before it notices and gives me the debuff |
21:59.19 | NeoTron | I love when you're mounted on a flying mount without the mount |
21:59.24 | NeoTron | (i.e the swimming thing) |
21:59.34 | NeoTron | I was swimming around shattrah back in the day |
21:59.57 | nevcairiel | it used to be like that in stormpeaks in that village that transforms you .. brunhildar or something |
22:00.07 | nevcairiel | go there in flying form, and you're a swimming guy |
22:00.18 | nevcairiel | i believe they fixed it |
22:00.19 | yoshimo | brunhildar was fixed i heard. and im not a druid |
22:00.42 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: still does it as of 3.2 |
22:00.45 | NivFreak | not sure about 3.3 |
22:00.53 | nevcairiel | i thought i read something in 3.3 changes |
22:01.09 | NivFreak | I thought it was hilarious |
22:01.12 | yoshimo | NivFreak, your still on 3.2`? |
22:01.18 | NivFreak | yoshimo: no :P |
22:01.23 | NivFreak | I haven't flown my druid out there since 3.3 |
22:01.49 | yoshimo | china lags behind on patches , doesnt it? |
22:01.59 | NivFreak | they lag behind in having a game |
22:02.02 | NivFreak | no wow in china |
22:02.44 | yoshimo | didnt they have the game run by the9? |
22:02.55 | nevcairiel | china has wow |
22:02.58 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: not anymore |
22:03.04 | NivFreak | the9 lost thier licenese |
22:03.10 | NivFreak | the other company couldn't get approval |
22:03.13 | nevcairiel | yeah but some other company took over |
22:03.22 | nevcairiel | oh? its dead now? |
22:03.23 | NivFreak | yea |
22:03.31 | NivFreak | http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/11/02/netease-slides-china-agency-rejects-world-of-warcraft/ |
22:04.02 | nevcairiel | blizzard should team up with google and just allow access to the default WoW :D |
22:04.02 | yoshimo | didnt shadowed stop some changes to lhc4 because he didnt want to break compatibility with non 3.3 wows like in china? |
22:04.36 | yoshimo | they changed undead models, something else? |
22:05.05 | arkanes | not enough changes, fast enough |
22:05.13 | NivFreak | wait |
22:05.15 | NivFreak | maybe it's back |
22:05.18 | NivFreak | http://www.jlmpacificepoch.com/newsstories?id=161232_0_5_0_M |
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22:06.35 | yoshimo | illegal wow? |
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22:08.35 | Groktar | china is so bizarre :( |
22:10.05 | NivFreak | so I haven't seen anything since novemeber either way |
22:11.17 | nevcairiel | i usually just ignore china-wow anyway |
22:11.38 | NivFreak | so the question is |
22:11.42 | NivFreak | who sells gold to the chinese |
22:12.23 | yoshimo | if they dont are allowed to have their own servers, isnt it illegal to play on european and us servers as well? |
22:12.35 | Shadowed | Pretty sure China still has WoW |
22:12.38 | NivFreak | they play on tiwanese servers |
22:12.40 | NivFreak | ala stars |
22:12.47 | Shadowed | because I get some sort of localization |
22:13.02 | arkanes | yoshimo: I believe it's not that the game has been made illegal per se, but that the company running it has been denied a license to operate it |
22:13.10 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: Yea, that's what I normally do. But I don't think people would like me too much if I made them do the same thing for a minor change :p |
22:14.29 | yoshimo | i think china is crazy anyway, trying to mess with an rpg^^ |
22:14.56 | nevcairiel | china trys to mess with google, talk about crazy :P |
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22:15.14 | NivFreak | so does canada! |
22:15.32 | nevcairiel | canada is already proven crazy |
22:15.54 | asmodai | wtf |
22:15.54 | NivFreak | oh |
22:16.01 | NivFreak | so it sounds like the servers are up in china |
22:16.03 | yoshimo | who had troubles with cursepoints and taxes because he is from canada? |
22:16.04 | NivFreak | but they aren't allowed to charge |
22:16.10 | asmodai | I did a reloadui and now I have a HUGE ass hearthstone in my view |
22:16.21 | nevcairiel | asmodai: it wants you to go home and rest |
22:16.29 | asmodai | you got to see this |
22:16.42 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: iirc, wow was free-to-play in china for a while now |
22:16.56 | NivFreak | all I have is what I can read online |
22:17.00 | NivFreak | I had heard that before too |
22:17.38 | nevcairiel | it really must be no fun with all those playtime limitations, though |
22:17.51 | arkanes | they're not that onerous, as I understand it |
22:18.09 | nevcairiel | but as stupid as it sounds, the chinese are the only people that actually managed to play themself to death |
22:18.16 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/hearth.png |
22:18.19 | arkanes | wasn't that guy actually korean? |
22:18.24 | yoshimo | how does the company pay the servers if they arent allowed to get money from the users?^^ |
22:18.29 | nevcairiel | same diff, imho :P |
22:18.41 | arkanes | and actually there was an american who did it a few years before that |
22:19.01 | arkanes | EQ addict apparently had a heart attack at his computer and didn't log off or something |
22:20.26 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: http://www.digitaleastasia.com/2009/11/04/showdown-in-china-gapp-rejects-neteases-wow-application-moc-rejects-gapp-authority/ |
22:20.32 | NivFreak | that actually has some info |
22:21.58 | arkanes | sounds like theres some political turfing going on with the regulatory agencies in china |
22:22.28 | asmodai | nevcairiel: That's SexyCooldown's fault btw |
22:22.38 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Guess it lost its marbles after that profile thinghy |
22:22.44 | yoshimo | "while working on removing the inappropriate content within the game,"LOL |
22:22.59 | arkanes | yoshimo: they're talking about the skellingtons |
22:23.12 | yoshimo | their only problem are corpses? |
22:23.21 | arkanes | theres probably some other stuff too |
22:23.30 | arkanes | there always is, with this sort of thing |
22:24.45 | arkanes | but I guess to chinese folks, seeing skeletons run around is like if you made an american MMO where everyone wore vaginas or something |
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22:26.04 | Azurewrath | i'd buy that. |
22:27.32 | asmodai | arkanes: It's not that bad actually |
22:28.16 | arkanes | man why doesn't vista have expose :( |
22:28.16 | asmodai | Otherwise all the Taiwanese would also be boycotting it like crazy. |
22:28.25 | NivFreak | they replace coffins too |
22:28.28 | NivFreak | as I recall |
22:28.39 | NivFreak | there was a decent comparison of the US vs China versions somewhere |
22:28.47 | nevcairiel | the skeletons players leave behind are little tombstones in china :d |
22:28.47 | arkanes | not vista, but windows 7 |
22:28.55 | yoshimo | arkanes, they cant see a naked female breast but all the rappers and their "toys" i mean, woman ... its doesnt fit together really |
22:31.09 | NivFreak | I actually wish they would do the wow china model changes to undead ;) |
22:32.09 | NivFreak | http://www.key28.cn/Article/2009-7-30/6999.html |
22:32.11 | NivFreak | shows some of the changes |
22:33.09 | arkanes | the bat ear icon was a nogo? |
22:33.10 | arkanes | wierd |
22:33.15 | yoshimo | are you sure? |
22:33.23 | arkanes | its in that article |
22:34.02 | NivFreak | once again, I've not touched china wow myself, this is just what I've read |
22:34.12 | NivFreak | it's the internet, you never know :) |
22:36.14 | Ingela | Antiarc, do you have any idea why my sexycd bar is sometimes reseting the width?! |
22:36.30 | Ingela | and only the width, nothing else |
22:40.51 | olafski | shadowed: my gf has a buckle on her belt but EG didn't report it as having a buckle.. can I file this somewhere? ;) |
22:41.22 | Shadowed | ticket + armory |
22:41.33 | Shadowed | odds are it's going to come down to "nothing I can do about it" buckles aren't sent by Blizzard |
22:41.45 | Shadowed | I have no idea of detecting that an item has a buckle vs not short of some magic gem counting |
22:42.30 | olafski | hm that would mean you'd need to know for every item in the game whether it has sockets? |
22:42.35 | olafski | or rather, for every belt :P |
22:42.43 | Ackis | olafski: quit lying |
22:42.45 | Ackis | LIAR |
22:42.49 | olafski | :( |
22:42.50 | nevcairiel | its not that hard tbh |
22:43.09 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: The problem is mainly you have no way of detecting an item that has a buckle, but no gem and an item that has no buckle |
22:43.19 | Shadowed | so if you have a buckle and no gem, it'll say you have no buckle |
22:43.42 | nevcairiel | can you get the socket count of items, even if there is no gems in them? |
22:43.51 | Shadowed | Not for belt buckles |
22:44.19 | Repo | 10incubator2: 03Morgalm 04v1.01 * r8 : Tagging as v1.01 |
22:44.21 | Shadowed | You can attach a belt buckle, and then link it to somebody (without gemming it), they won't see the prismatic socket |
22:44.21 | nevcairiel | somehow the gem ui knows |
22:44.30 | Shadowed | Your client knows |
22:44.33 | Shadowed | inspect doesn't |
22:44.33 | koaschten | wtf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzklHZqkbE |
22:44.37 | nevcairiel | ah. |
22:44.40 | nevcairiel | well |
22:44.51 | nevcairiel | if they have an empty buckle, it could as well be no buckle |
22:44.58 | nevcairiel | just yell at them to fix it |
22:44.59 | Shadowed | Right, that's what I'm saing :p |
22:45.09 | Shadowed | It can say you have no belt buckle, even if you really do cause of that |
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22:45.21 | olafski | posted a ticket |
22:45.26 | Shadowed | thanks |
22:45.42 | nevcairiel | you could make the error a bit more generic and say "no or empty belt buckle" :P |
22:45.49 | olafski | that's what it says nevcairiel |
22:46.09 | olafski | she does have a gem in it though |
22:46.26 | nevcairiel | well in that case it should be possible to see the difference |
22:46.43 | Shadowed | mmm |
22:46.56 | Shadowed | I haven't noticed any issues with failing to find belt buckles on belts without sockets |
22:46.59 | Shadowed | will look into it later |
22:47.38 | nevcairiel | the gem ui and the item string allows for 4 sockets, right? |
22:47.47 | Shadowed | kind of? |
22:47.59 | Shadowed | The item string allows for 4 sockets, the gem UI and everything uses a constant thats only setup for 3 |
22:48.19 | nevcairiel | heh, so no belts with 3 natural sockets ;) |
22:48.23 | Shadowed | right |
22:48.25 | olafski | bleh my username on wowace still isn't changed ;p can I request that from someone here or do I have to do it on the site.. or won't it happen at all :) |
22:48.41 | olafski | no gloves/bracers either =) |
22:48.52 | Shadowed | I assume they set it up so in Cataclysm they can add a 4th socket, but nothing in the game right now can have 4 |
22:49.01 | Shadowed | or so they can just add a 4th one eventually without breaking every mod |
22:49.02 | nevcairiel | you could ask Kaelten, but he is usually pretty busy |
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22:56.18 | nicoli_s | kaelten is pretty busy playing wow :P |
22:56.36 | Kaelten | hrm? |
22:57.19 | nicoli_s | ummm....i mean saving lives |
22:57.33 | Kaelten | not my fault ckknight can't hold agro |
22:57.44 | ckknight | whey, I hold aggro fine for the most part |
22:57.48 | nicoli_s | its true, he has shamed his family in agro holdingf |
22:57.57 | ckknight | Adamar just keeps stealing it |
22:58.08 | Kaelten | I'm just going to disable libcommheal for a little while |
22:58.37 | Ingela | so Kaelten you can change usernames? could you please just change mine with a capital I instead of "i"? Ingela instead of ingela :) |
22:58.49 | Ingela | i filled in one of those username changes like 3 months ago =( |
22:59.45 | evl | Where is the default outgoing damage combat text created? |
23:00.21 | Kaelten | I'm waiting on an api to be pushed live, and after that I'll be all for it |
23:03.37 | yoshimo | kaelten , why do you want to disable lhc? |
23:03.51 | nicoli_s | hes allergic to black holes |
23:03.56 | Kaelten | because it freaks ckknight out |
23:04.06 | ckknight | yea |
23:06.02 | arkanes | stupid higgs bosun |
23:06.19 | arkanes | its the thing that makes you get only 1 sock back when you put 2 into a dryer, you know |
23:06.40 | Gnarfoz | <asmodai> nevcairiel: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/hearth.png <-- wth? :D |
23:06.45 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.11-6-g5104578 Code/Triggers.lua: [+1 commit] add Missile Barrage Trigger to defaults |
23:06.48 | arkanes | thats why lhc is causing a sock shortage in europe |
23:08.18 | Ingela | just missing a bubble and you have all all you need for a paladin |
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23:27.32 | winkiller | arkanes: especially annoying is the time-bending effect |
23:27.42 | winkiller | like.. socks disappearing for years before the LHC was built |
23:28.06 | winkiller | which proves my theory that it opens a wormhole to the past |
23:28.22 | winkiller | and at some point in the future europe will be covered in socks raining down |
23:28.32 | winkiller | it will mark the day of the sockalypse |
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23:54.22 | fewyn | anyone happen to know of anything i can use to turn subversion commits into an rss feed? |
23:54.59 | Killmore | wow I was using curse client since alot of time and I give a try to WoWInterface Minion, he found so many update, I made them. Now I open back curse client and he also found alot of update |
23:55.45 | NeoTron | pretty safe to assume that mixing the two for addons both at curse and wowi is a bad idea overall |
23:57.13 | arkanes | they seem to have different ways of doing version detection |
23:57.28 | arkanes | so to each one, the other sites addons look out of date |
23:58.07 | arkanes | fewyn: I think CIA does that |
23:58.31 | yoshimo | well, most of my addons are on curse so updating them with one tool and downloading the rest manually is easier |
23:58.47 | arkanes | but if you don't want that, 3 seconds of googling led me here: http://www.friday.com/bbum/2006/08/17/howto-adding-an-rss-feed-to-a-subversion-server/ |
23:59.08 | Killmore | yeah, I will not update them back with curse. but its weird :( |
23:59.48 | fewyn | i think cia is a bit more than i need =p |