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| 00:00.42 | cralor | How do I get rid get rid of the totem overlay that is shown (Pitbull) when no totems are down? |
| 00:00.57 | cralor | I said that twice xD |
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| 00:11.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7052 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Citadel/Blood_Princes: Warn for inferno flames and target |
| 00:11.27 | ckknight | ~seen yoshimo |
| 00:11.30 | purl | yoshimo <n=Kassandr@p5B0C27FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 14m 54s ago, saying: './proximity '. |
| 00:11.34 | ckknight | cralor: hmm, file a ticket? |
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| 00:26.55 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: look what you did http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30137 |
| 00:27.51 | Funkeh` | It's my problem that fucking moron can't read? |
| 00:28.01 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 00:28.06 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 00:28.23 | Stanzilla | but I still like you, no worries |
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| 00:42.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7053 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Citadel/Blood_Princes: Fixup blood switching |
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| 00:46.10 | arkanes | "I never download torrents or go to **** sites because I am a bible thumping christian." |
| 00:46.20 | arkanes | highly relevent! |
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| 00:56.56 | Repo | 10libbossids-1-0: 03ckknight * r39 LibBossIDs-1.0.lua: |
| 00:56.58 | Repo | Organize the bosses by dungeon rather than purely alphabetical. |
| 00:57.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7054 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Citadel/Blood_Princes: add engage/wipe |
| 01:08.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7055 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Citadel/Blood_Princes: Add a warning for casting Shock. |
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| 01:16.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7056 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Add some stuff to Lanathel, untested and not finished. |
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| 01:20.36 | Repo | Citadel/Saurfang: Minor fix to prevent being enabled at the instance entrance. |
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| 01:41.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7059 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: |
| 01:41.37 | Repo | No need for icons on the fireball target, and change target swap message. |
| 01:47.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7060 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Add berserk timer. |
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| 01:59.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7061 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Fuckheads. |
| 02:09.17 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2804 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:09.19 | Repo | In addon:addLookupList(): Added code to grab the localized quest name from its tooltip. |
| 02:09.20 | Repo | In Quest.lua: Added NEUTRAL, ALLIANCE, and HORDE constants. |
| 02:09.22 | Repo | In addon:InitQuest(): Added local function AddQuest(), which is a wrapper for addon:addLookupList(). Also removed all quest names, since those will be mined from the client. Replaced all calls to addon:addLookupList() with AddQuest(). |
| 02:09.23 | Repo | Re-formatted a comment. |
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| 02:30.39 | fewyn | sigh anyone have any idea why recount and my msbt randomly stop working? |
| 02:31.45 | Stanzilla | it's the combatlog that stops working |
| 02:32.22 | fewyn | relogging fixes it? |
| 02:32.39 | fewyn | i hope it does >_> |
| 02:32.41 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 02:32.44 | fewyn | thanks |
| 02:32.48 | fewyn | getting really annoying |
| 02:32.55 | fewyn | especially when it happens during high queue >_> |
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| 02:38.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7062 Citadel/Lanathel.lua: |
| 02:38.13 | Repo | Add a bar for when you need to feed and change some wordings. |
| 02:40.36 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7063 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: |
| 02:40.38 | Repo | Remove the sound warning on shock thingy spawn and add a info ding when the target changes. |
| 02:42.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7064 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: Add missing locale entry. |
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| 02:44.46 | Ancu | Is there a place where I can learn just the commands for making an options menu with wowace? |
| 02:45.05 | Repo | 10shunkit: 03LaoTseu * r27 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Add LibQTip |
| 02:45.07 | Repo | - Can not click in the Tooltip to open containers |
| 02:45.08 | Repo | - Still no luck with Clam except when using the secure frame |
| 02:47.49 | koaschten | anyone know a simple (free) Windows tool to create an animated gif? |
| 02:49.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7065 Citadel/Blood_Princes.lua: |
| 02:49.33 | Repo | Citadel/Blood_Princes: Change the engage/wipe method, should work. |
| 02:51.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7066 BigWigs.toc: bump toc |
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| 02:57.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7067 Citadel/Lanathel.lua: Add the 25man ID for frenzy. |
| 03:06.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7068 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Rename: Putricide_Dogs.lua > Dogs.lua |
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| 03:12.57 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7069 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Rename: Blood_Princes.lua > BloodCouncil.lua |
| 03:13.18 | ckknight | the single most important thing we can do is promote economic prosperity |
| 03:13.28 | quiescens | o.O |
| 03:15.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7070 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Rename: DW_Trash.lua > DeathspeakerPriest.lua |
| 03:16.35 | ckknight | quiescens: hmm? |
| 03:17.05 | quiescens | ? |
| 03:17.10 | ckknight | you make a face |
| 03:17.18 | ckknight | how come? |
| 03:17.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7071 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Rename: MG_Trash.lua > DeathboundWard.lua |
| 03:17.36 | quiescens | your comment seemed to lack context |
| 03:17.48 | ckknight | I didn't think context was required |
| 03:17.53 | ckknight | any context is viable |
| 03:18.04 | ckknight | imo |
| 03:21.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7072 Citadel/modules.xml: Citadel/modules.xml: Update to load renamed modules. |
| 03:22.14 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.6.1 * 0257673 /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.6.1 |
| 03:24.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7073 Citadel/BloodCouncil.lua: |
| 03:24.18 | Repo | Citadel/BloodCouncil: Rename internal module name to "Blood Prince Council" |
| 03:25.26 | Bruners | ckknight: how many downloads was needed before an addon got awarded? |
| 03:27.52 | Shadowed | "awarded"? |
| 03:27.58 | Shadowed | you mean the author gets premium? |
| 03:29.01 | Nechckn | Thought it is/was 1K before points go out.. but that could have changed. |
| 03:29.30 | Shadowed | Points are based off of install base, which was 100 base installs I think? |
| 03:29.31 | Axodious | Shadowed |
| 03:29.37 | Shadowed | premium for the author is 1k downloads last I heard |
| 03:29.38 | Axodious | sec |
| 03:29.43 | Shadowed | Axodious: |
| 03:29.46 | Shadowed | did you check the alpha |
| 03:29.50 | Shadowed | If the answer is no, check the alpha |
| 03:30.22 | Axodious | :( |
| 03:34.40 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * Beta4-19-gdde0227 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Removed the quest filter flag from Pint-Sized Pink Pachyderm |
| 03:36.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7074 Citadel/Lanathel.lua: |
| 03:36.13 | Repo | Add approximate bars for phase changes and a proximity display. |
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| 03:43.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7075 Options/author-list.lua: Update author list. |
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| 03:50.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r7076-release * r7076 : Release new/fixed timers. |
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| 03:57.28 | Ingela | so guise, which is the best statusbar |
| 03:57.31 | Ingela | let the flame begin |
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| 03:59.30 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.1.0.0 * r448 : |
| 03:59.32 | Repo | v4.1: Improve the line consolidation feature - now filters identical lines by checking the last 5 lines instead of the last 1 line, old rules apply = no filtering of you/friends. Database cleanup/update. |
| 04:00.07 | Axodious | @project bad-boy |
| 04:00.08 | Repo | Axodious: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bad-boy/. BadBoy: Anti Spam Automatic Reporter. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago |
| 04:00.35 | Funkeh` | You don't know what badboy is? |
| 04:01.18 | Bruners | Ingela: best statusbar? |
| 04:01.23 | Ingela | yeah texture that is |
| 04:01.35 | Funkeh` | Axodious, It's nearly 2 years old :< |
| 04:02.51 | Bruners | Ingela: this one http://lasseb.tihlde.org/Statusbar.tga |
| 04:03.46 | Ingela | that's just a normal smooth isn't it |
| 04:03.54 | Bruners | no idea |
| 04:04.02 | Ingela | yeah it is |
| 04:04.03 | Ingela | just checked |
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| 04:54.01 | Groktar | bites you |
| 04:54.05 | quiescens | dies. |
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| 04:56.13 | Ingela | nice description |
| 04:56.15 | Ingela | "IMPORTANT: You need this addon" |
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| 05:11.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2805 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed all the phrases for the quest titles. |
| 05:17.52 | orionshock-droid | What addon? |
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| 05:19.47 | digmouse | is there a tool to extract the worldmap? |
| 05:19.56 | digmouse | not the minimap though |
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| 05:22.35 | orionshock-droid | Check cart2 or 3 there might be a data miner script in them |
| 05:24.03 | Yssaril | digmouse: world maps are composits of 12 tiles which you can extract as blps via the addonkit from blizzard |
| 05:24.49 | digmouse | hmmm, so I still need to put them together |
| 05:24.54 | Yssaril | yea |
| 05:25.06 | Yssaril | digmouse: what do you want to use them for? |
| 05:25.19 | digmouse | collection :D |
| 05:25.37 | digmouse | and probably make some little leveling guide for my guildies |
| 05:25.48 | Yssaril | hehe you can try to see if you can get at the maps from wowhead |
| 05:27.05 | Yssaril | digmouse: http://static.wowhead.com/images/maps/enus/zoom/1.jpg |
| 05:27.10 | digmouse | oh I forgot wowhead |
| 05:27.30 | digmouse | sorry wowhead xD |
| 05:28.59 | Yssaril | i do worse to them (with permission though) am currently downloading/parsing every single instance page/ bosspage and boss every itempage ofr all boss drops |
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| 05:30.20 | raydenuni | hello |
| 05:30.25 | raydenuni | i'm having a bit of trouble with a macro |
| 05:30.31 | raydenuni | making a druid "oh shit" button for tanking |
| 05:30.43 | raydenuni | cast barkskin if off cd, else regen, else survival, else pot |
| 05:33.46 | quiescens | there is no "if off cooldown" |
| 05:34.06 | raydenuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.09 | raydenuni | will reset do what i want? |
| 05:35.24 | Yssaril | not surereset resets the sequence to the beginning but it starts counting from last time you pressed the macro so the countdown till reset resets everytime you press it |
| 05:35.30 | raydenuni | looks like yes |
| 05:35.38 | raydenuni | hmm |
| 05:35.41 | raydenuni | so it's close |
| 05:35.48 | Yssaril | bahh ignore that not sure infront |
| 05:41.37 | arkanes | barkskins off the GCD so you can just have it in the front and it will be triggered if available |
| 05:41.47 | arkanes | but it will also use the next ability in line which may no be what you want |
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| 05:43.19 | raydenuni | none of these are on cooldown |
| 05:43.23 | raydenuni | they are all instant |
| 05:43.25 | raydenuni | i want one at a time |
| 05:43.29 | raydenuni | but the reset thing is iffy |
| 05:43.39 | raydenuni | barkskin cna be up and it won't cast cause it wants the next one |
| 05:43.45 | arkanes | right |
| 05:43.52 | arkanes | because they have different CDs |
| 05:44.04 | arkanes | all of them *except* barkskin are on the GCD, though |
| 05:44.53 | raydenuni | huh? |
| 05:44.55 | raydenuni | oh |
| 05:45.00 | raydenuni | why are they on gcd? |
| 05:45.06 | raydenuni | guess they are |
| 05:45.09 | arkanes | most things are |
| 05:45.21 | arkanes | actually I'm not sure about survival instincts, now that I think about it |
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| 05:45.24 | arkanes | probably is, though |
| 05:45.27 | raydenuni | it's not |
| 05:45.41 | arkanes | frenzied regen is |
| 05:45.44 | raydenuni | yes it is |
| 05:46.39 | quiescens | your best bet is to try to make a relatively long castsequence that does fully loops |
| 05:46.51 | quiescens | accounting for the differing cooldowns |
| 05:47.33 | raydenuni | i do'nt want it to loop |
| 05:47.34 | arkanes | thats still going to leave you hitting something besides barkskin, even if its up |
| 05:47.41 | raydenuni | i want ot be able to hit this anytime and have ti cast barkskin if it can |
| 05:47.47 | raydenuni | else cast my other stuff |
| 05:47.49 | raydenuni | it's a priority |
| 05:47.52 | arkanes | you can't do that |
| 05:48.01 | arkanes | you have it hit barkskin + 1 other thing |
| 05:48.11 | arkanes | but you can't do "else" in macros |
| 05:48.17 | raydenuni | so i can make it always try barkskin? |
| 05:48.29 | digmouse | huh it was fast, Stars downed blood queen 1 hour and 55 minutes after server goes live. |
| 05:48.29 | quiescens | you can |
| 05:48.55 | arkanes | digmouse: thats an incredibly fast clear |
| 05:49.03 | arkanes | digmouse: almost suspiciously fast |
| 05:49.33 | digmouse | oh, correction, 2 hours and 31 minutes |
| 05:49.46 | digmouse | I forgot the trash clear before marrowgar |
| 05:50.07 | digmouse | and they wipe twice on her, one-shotted council though |
| 05:50.09 | arkanes | thats still really fast but much more reasonable |
| 05:50.28 | digmouse | no it's legal, I'm online in the raid |
| 05:50.35 | digmouse | group 8 btw :P |
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| 05:51.30 | digmouse | queen looks pretty easier than professor |
| 05:51.47 | Shadowed | Gagorian: I don't know if you've added Druid 2 piece T10 yet but the formula changes the coeff from (4 - #) to (3 - (# - 1) * 0.70) |
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| 05:52.38 | raydenuni | what if i just set the reset to be like 10 seconds? |
| 05:52.45 | raydenuni | what if i have /castsequence A, B, C |
| 05:52.52 | raydenuni | a is on cooldown, b and c are not |
| 05:52.57 | raydenuni | sequence has me casting A next |
| 05:52.58 | digmouse | no you cant |
| 05:53.04 | digmouse | if A is on cooldown |
| 05:53.07 | raydenuni | will it stop? or will it skip to B? |
| 05:53.08 | digmouse | the sequence may stuck |
| 05:53.10 | arkanes | the sequence won't progress if the ability its trying to use is on CD |
| 05:53.20 | raydenuni | hrm |
| 05:53.20 | raydenuni | suck |
| 05:53.24 | digmouse | it will not continue to B since it hasnt casted A yet |
| 05:53.26 | arkanes | the entire point of the macro changes in 2.0 was to not let you do this sort of logic |
| 05:53.35 | arkanes | just use 3 buttons |
| 05:53.38 | raydenuni | so rotation is fine |
| 05:53.40 | raydenuni | priority is not |
| 05:53.42 | arkanes | and pick the one you want to use |
| 05:53.59 | raydenuni | might just make a barkskin one, and a regen/survival one |
| 05:54.04 | digmouse | why not just /cast /cast /cast |
| 05:54.17 | raydenuni | that gives me all 3 at once right? |
| 05:54.20 | digmouse | no |
| 05:54.22 | quiescens | probably |
| 05:54.35 | digmouse | press several times to cast them all |
| 05:54.46 | raydenuni | what does it do? |
| 05:54.55 | digmouse | like my nuke macro |
| 05:55.13 | raydenuni | what is the logic that happens? |
| 05:55.14 | digmouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.35 | digmouse | the multi-line wont stuck if one of them is on cd |
| 05:55.45 | raydenuni | won't that cast all of them at once though? |
| 05:55.47 | digmouse | it *tries* to cast all of them at once |
| 05:55.53 | digmouse | because of the GCD |
| 05:55.53 | raydenuni | yeah i do'nt want that necessarily |
| 05:56.02 | digmouse | they wont pop up at the same time |
| 05:56.05 | raydenuni | oh, because of GCD it only gets one |
| 05:56.08 | digmouse | te |
| 05:56.10 | digmouse | ye |
| 05:56.11 | raydenuni | the first one |
| 05:56.21 | Nechckn | interstest, digmouse |
| 05:56.21 | raydenuni | that... sort of helps |
| 05:56.24 | digmouse | so you need another one or 2 presses to cast the remaining ones |
| 05:56.25 | raydenuni | the only one on GCD is regen |
| 05:56.25 | quiescens | as people have pointed out though |
| 05:56.31 | quiescens | barkskin will be used with something |
| 05:56.43 | raydenuni | survival is also not GCD |
| 05:56.50 | digmouse | oh then you cant |
| 05:56.57 | raydenuni | guess i can make a barkskin, and an NOT THE FACE one |
| 05:57.11 | digmouse | the non-GCD ones in multi-line will pop up at the same time |
| 05:57.21 | digmouse | since they can be casted at the same time |
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| 06:03.29 | Ingela | Shadowed, i found how to "hack" the insets on all frames, but is there a possibility of just hacking the insets of targetoftarget for example? or is it over 9000 code lines i need to add for that matter? |
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| 06:05.48 | quiescens | I doubt it would take any more than 8999 lines |
| 06:06.31 | Ingela | that's good news! |
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| 06:23.16 | Repo | 53c2a02: Fixed GUID compression that would cause \254\250-255 GUIDs to decompress incorrectly |
| 06:23.17 | Repo | e637823: Added Paladin 2 piece Tier 10 Holy (+35% healing with Divine Illumination active) |
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| 08:01.38 | orionshock | ok, regex question, "Alchemy: Transmute: Amertrine" I want to capture the word "Alchemy" or basically everything up to the first ":" in the string |
| 08:01.41 | orionshock | any hints |
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| 08:03.18 | Megalon | lua> string.match( "Alchemy: Transmute: Amertrine", "[^:]+") |
| 08:03.18 | lua_bot | Megalon: Alchemy |
| 08:04.05 | haste | orionshock: lua patterns ~= regexp! |
| 08:04.32 | orionshock | haste, ya ya ya |
| 08:04.38 | orionshock | Megalon, thanks |
| 08:05.18 | Fisker | my cat is brrrr haste |
| 08:05.24 | Fisker | so i r |
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| 08:08.00 | Yivry | damn it's early >.< |
| 08:08.26 | Fisker | you get mounts at level 20 now right? |
| 08:08.34 | Yivry | yup |
| 08:08.39 | Yivry | epic at 40 |
| 08:08.42 | Yivry | flying at 60 |
| 08:08.46 | Fisker | sweet |
| 08:08.48 | Yivry | epic flying at 70 |
| 08:09.04 | Yivry | northrend flying trainable 77, but heirloom |
| 08:09.05 | Fisker | everytime i have to do a quest on my alt i'm like "aww no mounts available" |
| 08:09.26 | Yivry | and the flyers have faction discounts these days too |
| 08:10.36 | Fisker | warlocks still get pretty much free mounts at level 20 right? |
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| 08:10.48 | Yivry | iirc yes |
| 08:10.49 | nevcairiel | isnt it 30? |
| 08:10.56 | nevcairiel | or was it moved down to 20 now? |
| 08:11.02 | nevcairiel | but yes, warlocks and paladongs do |
| 08:11.06 | Yivry | 30 was a few patches ago :P |
| 08:11.18 | Fisker | it's 20 now nevcairiel |
| 08:11.22 | Fisker | PALADONGS?! |
| 08:11.23 | Yivry | i remember the days it was 40 :P |
| 08:11.24 | Fisker | rages |
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| 08:17.57 | asmodai | Paladin from 16 to 18, only spell you get is Hand of Freedom, err, "yay". :( |
| 08:18.28 | Yivry | pvp spell, very important for twinks ;) |
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| 08:18.45 | asmodai | yeah, I'm sure :P |
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| 08:18.59 | raydenuni | paladong |
| 08:19.03 | raydenuni | that's good |
| 08:19.04 | Yivry | ive twinked a little bit at 19 with a pally |
| 08:19.17 | Yivry | Hand of Freedom is used a LOT |
| 08:19.18 | raydenuni | i mostly use palyfag |
| 08:20.13 | miica | damn it is hard to make anything work like /g or /p :/ |
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| 08:31.12 | Caleb| | ~seen mysticalos |
| 08:31.15 | purl | mysticalos <n=Myst@h196.107.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 31d 4h 33m 42s ago, saying: 'where does curse client save it's settings on mac cause i've deleted every file i could find but i still can't zap settings, and it's showing tons of addons it think are installed that were removed ages ago :\'. |
| 08:38.16 | orionshock | well lesson of the day: if your going to use recursion, make sure your your notation is consistent between declaring the function and using it in the recursion. |
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| 08:46.17 | Wobin | orionshock, I thought the lesson of the day was if you were going to learn recursion to make sure you learn the lesson of the day |
| 08:46.35 | nevcairiel | ~recursion |
| 08:46.36 | purl | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. |
| 08:47.00 | orionshock | ha |
| 08:47.04 | orionshock | ha :) |
| 08:52.43 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.04 | miica | i think i cant make my system work :/ |
| 08:53.54 | Nechckn | seems to be doing pretty good right now, miica |
| 08:56.36 | miica | not. |
| 08:57.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03onyxmaster * r7077 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: |
| 08:57.19 | Repo | ruRU Blood Prince Council fixes: module name, messages, inferno flames emote trigger |
| 08:57.34 | miica | i think it isnt possible to anything like /g /p example if you make your own slash comman like /n and then you type /n and press enter and when you write something it would always call your own function or something |
| 08:58.54 | miica | i think prat just renamed output names like [Guild] as [G] |
| 08:59.08 | miica | it didint do anything about /g or /guild you need to always use them |
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| 09:01.45 | olafski | indeed |
| 09:01.54 | olafski | and I found that in Prat I can't select single channels to be sticky either |
| 09:02.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03onyxmaster * r7078 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU Lanathel messages |
| 09:02.02 | olafski | just all channels or none :< |
| 09:03.27 | miica | probably when you write something to editbox and press enter it calls something |
| 09:04.05 | miica | if I can find that from wow default UI system i could probably hook it or something? |
| 09:04.18 | miica | even i think there isnt anything about it |
| 09:04.24 | miica | and that isnt open anyway |
| 09:07.02 | haste | olafski: http://github.com/haste/oChat/blob/master/chat.lua#L130 that's how stickyness is handled |
| 09:07.28 | haste | olafski: it uses channel for all channels, if you want it to work on a single you have _some_ hooking to do :) |
| 09:08.00 | miica | haste: yeah but can you add there your own sticky systems? :o |
| 09:08.11 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.16 | Megalon | stickies olafski onto miica |
| 09:08.23 | miica | ... |
| 09:08.35 | haste | miica: hence the hooking part of the message |
| 09:09.04 | olafski | haste: and I assume "_some_" was an understatement :P |
| 09:09.34 | haste | it's ChatFrame.lua, _some_ is always an understatement |
| 09:10.24 | olafski | hmkay.. so far the addon development I've dabbled with included mostly non-graphical stuff.. so I wouldn't know :) |
| 09:10.56 | miica | haste: but you cant stick anything else? :o |
| 09:11.18 | miica | hmm.. |
| 09:11.30 | miica | maybe it is easier to make own editbox and hide normal editbox? :D |
| 09:12.44 | miica | like example if you write /yourface in your own editbox it will make it sticky and when you write more it calls function yourface |
| 09:12.57 | asmodai | don't you love getting an item drop that's higher ilvl than your current piece, run it through rawr and seeing rawr favour your older one? :) |
| 09:13.03 | miica | so you could make little like console |
| 09:13.20 | asmodai | mitch0: oh btw |
| 09:13.25 | miica | i would like to see something like that in ace :P |
| 09:13.28 | asmodai | mitch0: You is awsum |
| 09:13.31 | asmodai | nevcairiel: oi! |
| 09:13.33 | miica | console library :D |
| 09:13.40 | asmodai | prods nevcairiel |
| 09:14.17 | miica | maybe something like ruby shell |
| 09:14.21 | miica | or unix shell |
| 09:14.44 | olafski | meh miica :P |
| 09:14.53 | miica | isnt that cool idea? :D |
| 09:14.59 | olafski | just type /script in front of it :) |
| 09:15.04 | olafski | but it would be a fun thing to try I guess ;0 |
| 09:15.13 | miica | well atleast little like ruby shell |
| 09:15.17 | nevcairiel | asmodai: wut? |
| 09:15.19 | miica | i give you example |
| 09:15.42 | asmodai | nevcairiel: got a taint log for that totem thinghy. |
| 09:15.42 | miica | ///flasks |
| 09:15.47 | asmodai | nevcairiel: happened again last night. |
| 09:15.49 | miica | only one slash! |
| 09:15.56 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I am just a bit lost what to look for though :( |
| 09:16.03 | nevcairiel | post the file somewhere |
| 09:16.27 | olafski | miica: what would /flasks do? |
| 09:16.29 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.37 | olafski | hm |
| 09:16.43 | asmodai | nevcairiel: yeah, was getting you the link |
| 09:16.48 | miica | or you could run it with defautls |
| 09:16.53 | olafski | you're proposing to make a whole new language? |
| 09:17.01 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.5-beta-7-gbacee78 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] fix char/overall announce not being respected when the end of a run completes. |
| 09:17.05 | miica | not realy |
| 09:17.12 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/taint.log |
| 09:17.15 | miica | it would be just wayt to call functions |
| 09:17.36 | miica | you just give paraments new way or run them with default paraments |
| 09:18.29 | nevcairiel | asmodai: it says SexyCooldown caused it :d |
| 09:18.35 | miica | or example /face would start "face function" session so all input after that would call face function |
| 09:18.47 | miica | so basicly like sticky |
| 09:18.59 | asmodai | nevcairiel: what are you looking for? I saw a large part different from the rest that showed SexyCooldown yea |
| 09:19.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: the part with the ActionButton_OnEvent() stuff? |
| 09:19.25 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:19.36 | asmodai | where then? :) |
| 09:19.47 | nevcairiel | An action was blocked in combat because of taint from SexyCooldown - SetMultiCastSpell() |
| 09:21.13 | asmodai | nevcairiel: do I only need those 3 lines in a report to Antiarc? |
| 09:21.32 | nevcairiel | nah that probably wont help him |
| 09:21.55 | asmodai | @project sexycooldown |
| 09:21.57 | Repo | asmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexycooldown/. SexyCooldown. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 days ago. Tickets: 19/24 |
| 09:22.16 | asmodai | I wonder if it is because of his totem timers |
| 09:22.41 | asmodai | I've never seen my totems on his bars anyway and SUF tracks them for me. |
| 09:25.55 | miica | http://pastebin.com/m56c64c1f there is my idea maybe simplier :D |
| 09:27.06 | haste | miica: just have a table of functions that is indexed based on what's after / and before space |
| 09:27.21 | olafski | btw nevcairiel, that guy with the 302 auctions got something done to him so I guess he was a haxer ,) |
| 09:27.33 | haste | you'll still have to support the default slash handlers with that system too btw miica |
| 09:27.42 | miica | haste: yeah and make editbox and hide normal editbox |
| 09:28.01 | miica | haste: and it should also look if it is sticky already |
| 09:28.24 | haste | hell awaits is all I say |
| 09:29.10 | miica | haste: or maybe i just could give them to system like normal editbox if i dont wanna do anything with them? :D |
| 09:30.07 | haste | hell awaits regardless! |
| 09:30.42 | olafski | :D |
| 09:30.51 | miica | I dont wanna go hell :(( |
| 09:35.41 | miica | all i just wanted was to see when my friends get achs or they link items :'(( |
| 09:36.57 | harl | having a bit of fun with my wow.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVvRiHU3Si8 |
| 09:37.21 | miica | old bug.. |
| 09:37.34 | miica | and dwarf is ugly |
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| 09:38.27 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i believe its LibInternalCooldown, it dirty hooks the cooldown functions, which could taint the whole action button system |
| 09:38.43 | nevcairiel | bad Antiarc, bad! |
| 09:40.12 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r719 sRaidFrames.lua: Fix for spec and role detection |
| 09:40.18 | harl | cookies are old too, yet, some of us like cookies much. |
| 09:40.30 | harl | and.. cookies can be very(!) ugly as well |
| 09:40.34 | asmodai | nevcairiel: mmm |
| 09:40.46 | asmodai | @project libinternalcooldown |
| 09:40.47 | Repo | asmodai: No project found that matches 'libinternalcooldown' |
| 09:42.26 | harl | maybe i'll call that an uclie |
| 09:42.44 | harl | or a cooglie. will see. |
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| 09:54.50 | asmodai | ah, libinternalcooldowns |
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| 10:02.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: can it be libinternalcooldowns has no ticketing system active @ wowace.com? |
| 10:02.30 | nevcairiel | you can turn that off, if thats what you're asking :d |
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| 10:06.03 | asmodai | nevcairiel: heheh, guess he did |
| 10:06.10 | asmodai | just needs to stalk Antiarc on the channel then |
| 10:06.38 | Megalon | stabbing is more efficient than stalking |
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| 10:13.43 | asmodai | Megalon: but if I stab him he cannot fix it |
| 10:15.33 | SunTsu | Megalon: but people seldom are able to fix anything after you stabbed them |
| 10:15.59 | miica | :3 |
| 10:20.14 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7079 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
| 10:20.37 | Megalon | oh, I thought Antiarc was the problem ;< |
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| 10:23.15 | asmodai | mmm |
| 10:23.16 | asmodai | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100120PD204.html |
| 10:23.33 | Yivry | ok I might be a bit naive here, but how come QuestHelper ALWAYS has an update whenever I run curse client? |
| 10:23.48 | asmodai | Yivry: he does sort of weekly/bi-weekly updates |
| 10:23.58 | asmodai | Or maybe you track beta or alpha? :) |
| 10:24.10 | olafski | updates in the data set most likely.. look at the changelog |
| 10:24.33 | Arrowmaster | he does lots of useless updates just so people think hes doing work and will donate money to him |
| 10:24.50 | Arrowmaster | damn hes not in this channel |
| 10:24.57 | Nechckn | ouch |
| 10:25.37 | Nechckn | lol, nice touch, Arrowmaster =) |
| 10:26.13 | asmodai | I was surprised by his donating scheme he is now employing. |
| 10:26.22 | Bruners | which is |
| 10:26.30 | nevcairiel | the "donate money and i fix stuff" thing? |
| 10:26.32 | SunTsu | Yivry: because you run curse client once every few weeks? |
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| 10:26.59 | Yivry | no I run it pretty often, at least twice a week mostly |
| 10:27.19 | Bruners | just uninstall quest helper and problem solved |
| 10:27.24 | Yivry | lol |
| 10:31.03 | Bruners | Yivry: maby you are using wowmatrix and that is downgrading for you |
| 10:31.20 | Yivry | eh no ty Bruners |
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| 10:36.07 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-3-0: 03Grayal * r29 Snowflake-3.0 (2 files in 1 directory): first version |
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| 10:38.01 | nevcairiel | he is still doing his first version |
| 10:38.24 | Torhal | WTF? I moved that to CF last night |
| 10:39.21 | Bruners | haha |
| 10:39.37 | nevcairiel | @project libsnowflake-3-0 |
| 10:39.38 | Repo | nevcairiel: 'http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsnowflake-3-0/. LibSnowflake-3.0. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. You are improperly using Subversion on a developer-oriented community site, which is causing repetitious broadcasts of the same message. Every revision broadcast to the IRC channel is of this format:\r. Grayal (Manager/Author). Updated: 25 hours ago' |
| 10:39.51 | Torhal | Bah. I moved the wrong one |
| 10:39.54 | Torhal | I moved 2.0 |
| 10:40.23 | Torhal | Ok, moved. |
| 10:42.15 | Bruners | IRC-reporting should be off by default |
| 10:42.37 | [Ammo] | no wai |
| 10:42.53 | [Ammo] | it's awesome seeing new people try committing :) |
| 10:43.08 | Bruners | thats why i'm comitting to CF! |
| 10:43.17 | Bruners | only 1-3 people that can see it and mock me |
| 10:43.27 | [Ammo] | well have fun with that! |
| 10:45.20 | Bruners | what is libsnowflake anyway? |
| 10:48.11 | [Ammo] | I think it's an attempt at aceconfigdialog / acegui remake |
| 10:48.46 | [Ammo] | or a dropdwon lib rather |
| 10:48.56 | nevcairiel | its a dropdown thing, yea |
| 10:49.11 | Bruners | Torhal: didn't you move that some months ago ? |
| 10:49.30 | [Ammo] | I hate finding I could do things neater |
| 10:49.36 | [Ammo] | third rewrite of wupah now :p |
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| 10:51.01 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1277 GridRange.lua: |
| 10:51.03 | Repo | - Delay spellbook scan on initial load by 1 second to fix issues with delayed talent loading (ticket #268) |
| 10:53.08 | Nechckn | Ha - Status: Abnormal |
| 10:55.28 | digmouse | Bruners: I'm gonna write to the moderator to tell them let repo report CF commits XD |
| 10:55.42 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.5-beta-8-g53a6eab DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] utilize label and value in LDB, text is everything as a fall back. |
| 10:55.44 | nevcairiel | repo does |
| 10:55.48 | nevcairiel | just in #curseforge |
| 10:56.14 | Bruners | digmouse: most of my commits goes to github anywa |
| 10:56.47 | asmodai | Bruners: You'll be mocked regardless. :) |
| 10:59.48 | orionshock | Bruners, we will not be denied our entertainment :) |
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| 11:04.33 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-27-g9cc18c3 / (9 files in 5 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 11:04.35 | Repo | 9cc18c3: Allow pet groups to optionally not leave gaps for missing pets. |
| 11:04.36 | Repo | c01aaf4: Remove some code duplicated by putting a deep_copy in Utils. |
| 11:04.37 | Repo | c035ddc: Make GetState() return the current state accounting for forced_state. |
| 11:04.37 | Torhal | Bruners: No, I didn't. Thought I moved it last night but I moved 2.0 instead |
| 11:04.39 | Repo | 8830e49: Code to support the state to be set manually. No UI provided yet. |
| 11:04.55 | Bruners | Torhal: i just remember talking about that lib |
| 11:05.08 | Bruners | and i don't think it was yesterday |
| 11:05.31 | Torhal | I remember discussing it awhile back, but I never did anything until his constant "first version" commits made me want to /wrists |
| 11:07.08 | Megalon | it's a pity that each revision only has one version, yea :( |
| 11:07.52 | nevcairiel | It should've never been approved in the first place |
| 11:08.36 | nevcairiel | libs by new authors should always be monitored closely before they get on wowace |
| 11:09.48 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Actually, I approved it as experimental |
| 11:09.55 | Torhal | But that doesn't stop the IRC reporting |
| 11:10.03 | nevcairiel | it wasnt experimental anymore |
| 11:10.08 | Torhal | Hrm |
| 11:10.14 | nevcairiel | or it would've said so in the commit report |
| 11:10.43 | Torhal | Maybe because I changed it to "Changes required". Bah. We really need a web dev. |
| 11:12.01 | Torhal | And unfortunately, moving it from site to site destroys the project history. |
| 11:12.03 | Torhal | :( |
| 11:13.43 | Bruners | he lost all the "first commit"'s ? :P |
| 11:14.20 | Torhal | Nah, those are intact, but the project itself has an "Activity log", which is for some reason wiped when moving between the sites. |
| 11:14.30 | Torhal | Which is silly considering they share a database |
| 11:14.41 | nevcairiel | how convenient! |
| 11:14.54 | Torhal | It is? |
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| 11:15.16 | Caleb| | Shefki does PB4 support those new boss frames added in 3.3? |
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| 11:29.52 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03funkydude * r124 Transcriptor.lua: |
| 11:29.54 | Repo | Experimental targettarget acquisition to log for cast_success. |
| 11:30.44 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1278 / (4 files in 1 directory): - More tweaks to fix nested plugin menus |
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| 11:36.05 | asmodai | mmm, new Nvidia drivers |
| 11:40.39 | nevcairiel | oh right, i wanted to get those |
| 11:41.33 | Megalon | me too |
| 11:41.35 | yoshimo | lets see if they stop my nvidia card from crashing in wow ;) |
| 11:41.45 | Megalon | but then i realized the lack of an nvidia card in my pc :| |
| 11:42.23 | yoshimo | im currently using my old ati, because the geforcedriver crashes all the time |
| 11:43.36 | yoshimo | but only in wow the driver gets reset, was strange |
| 11:47.14 | asmodai | yoshimo: there are some reset fixes |
| 11:48.56 | yoshimo | ill try again, but it wasnt funny. I bought the new nvidia card, and every 2-5m the screen went black and the driver was reset ;) |
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| 11:49.44 | nevcairiel | there are also some more stable drivers you could try, people have been reporting weird shit all through the 190 series |
| 11:49.57 | nevcairiel | 185 was supposedly stable, if your card is already being supported by it |
| 11:50.46 | asmodai | yoshimo: the release notes are mentioning something about that |
| 11:50.50 | nevcairiel | you know whats nice, win7 can upgrade gfx drivers without a reboot now |
| 11:52.27 | yoshimo | its a gtx275 and unfortunately i still have vista^^ |
| 11:52.40 | Bruners | nevcairiel: afaik even vista could do that? |
| 11:53.23 | nevcairiel | i thought it was something new with wddm 1.1 |
| 11:54.02 | Bruners | but yes, it's nice |
| 11:54.13 | nevcairiel | maybe they backported that to vista with dx11 |
| 11:54.16 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 11:54.54 | miica | where i can get acetimer library |
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| 11:56.58 | Bruners | anyone of that has tested http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html ? |
| 11:57.25 | yoshimo | stupid driver, wont install if i have the ati card in the slot... |
| 11:58.00 | Bruners | that feature was new in vista |
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| 13:16.01 | miica | cheers it works! |
| 13:16.28 | miica | now i just need ramdon :D |
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| 13:36.40 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r189 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 13:36.40 | Repo | add fails for new bosses: BloodPrinces - Flames, Queen - Pact, Swarming Shadows |
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| 13:37.25 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r207 EnsidiaFails.lua: |
| 13:37.26 | Repo | add fails for new bosses: BloodPrinces - Flames, Queen - Pact, Swarming Shadows |
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| 13:41.36 | profalbert | @project libfail |
| 13:41.37 | Repo | profalbert: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libfail-1-0/. LibFail-1.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Maat (Author), mysticalos (Author), Rinu (Author), sztanpet (Author), Endeavour (Tester). Updated: 6 days ago. Tickets: 4/28 |
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| 13:56.50 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r190 LibFail-1.0.lua: fix up Swarming Shadows so non vamps can fail it too |
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| 14:29.25 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7080 Citadel/BloodCouncil.lua: Add 25man ID for empowered shock. |
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| 14:47.11 | asmodai | Oh hell |
| 14:47.25 | asmodai | Bethesda is coming with a Elder Scrolls MMO. |
| 14:47.45 | asmodai | Sincerely hope it ain't as boring as Oblivion. |
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| 14:48.56 | asmodai | Apparently it's already in development for the past 3 years. |
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| 14:51.42 | steev | so, if i try to use altoholic |
| 14:51.54 | steev | any time i open my mail, wow crashes (but only in Wine) |
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| 14:57.42 | asmodai | steev: odd |
| 14:58.30 | Arrowmaster | a new elder scrolls game with the style of morrowind would be fucking awesome |
| 15:00.00 | Arrowmaster | everything about oblivion sucked |
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| 15:04.21 | mitch0 | obliviously :) |
| 15:07.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Guest65060] by ChanServ |
| 15:07.37 | steev | asmodai: yeah, i think ill try without Datastore_Mail enabled (i really don't give a shit about mail, i just want to track mats for the titansteel and icy prisms (yes i know its overkill to use altoholic for just those 2 things but meh)) |
| 15:07.55 | pentium166 | morrowind in id's rage engine please |
| 15:08.33 | Arrowmaster | pentium166: as long as it doesnt effect the ability to create pillow forts |
| 15:08.56 | pentium166 | i'd trade the ability to create pillow forts for the ability to jump off of fences and rocks |
| 15:09.44 | Arrowmaster | i could jump all over in morrowind |
| 15:10.15 | pentium166 | morrowind/oblivion/fallout 3 frequently have the character getting stuck in a falling state where you can't jump, if it doesn't like the angle of the surface you're standing on |
| 15:13.36 | asmodai | pentium166: yea, sucks hard |
| 15:13.42 | asmodai | mmm, firefox 3.6: |
| 15:13.47 | asmodai | Total: 997.2ms +/- 5.9% |
| 15:14.00 | pentium166 | the wood elf or khajiit regions would probably make a more interesting setting than cyrodiil |
| 15:14.05 | asmodai | chrome dev (4.0): Total: 763.2ms +/- 13.1% |
| 15:14.19 | asmodai | on the SunSpider tests. |
| 15:14.21 | nevcairiel | whats that? start up? some benchmark? |
| 15:14.37 | mitch0 | asmodai: opera? :) |
| 15:14.39 | Myrroddin | looking for opinion: should slash commands be localized? ie: /myaddon L["command"]? |
| 15:14.54 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html |
| 15:14.58 | nevcairiel | Myrroddin: no |
| 15:15.00 | mitch0 | mirroddin: 1) nobody uses slash commands nowadays. 2) no :) |
| 15:15.02 | asmodai | mitch0: 10.10 ok? |
| 15:15.15 | mitch0 | that's the new beta thing? |
| 15:15.20 | mitch0 | anyway, that's good, yeah |
| 15:15.39 | mitch0 | nah, 10.10 is the latest stable, but anyway, give it a go |
| 15:16.27 | Myrroddin | LOL thanks nevcairiel. and mitch0 I wish, but my roomie wants a slash command "cast" for smartres2 so he can put it in a macro. for some silly reason, he wants his res spell on an action button, and not a keybinding. but he is odd |
| 15:17.28 | asmodai | mitch0: 10.10: Total: 3310.4ms +/- 6.2% |
| 15:17.36 | asmodai | Don't have the beta installed for Opera. |
| 15:17.50 | asmodai | mitch0: btw, Bazooka++ |
| 15:17.59 | mitch0 | good to hear :) |
| 15:18.05 | mitch0 | it needs more marketing though |
| 15:18.15 | asmodai | is good at that ;) |
| 15:18.16 | nevcairiel | installs some more browsers to benchmark |
| 15:18.43 | nevcairiel | you have some high confidence interval there, your system seems busy |
| 15:19.26 | asmodai | nevcairiel: 90% idle CPU, maybe memory constrained. |
| 15:19.42 | nevcairiel | is 3.6 officially out? |
| 15:19.45 | asmodai | yea |
| 15:19.46 | asmodai | well |
| 15:19.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 15:19.52 | asmodai | tonight |
| 15:19.52 | nevcairiel | mozilla page doesnt have dowload yet =P |
| 15:20.03 | asmodai | http://mozilla.snt.utwente.nl/firefox/releases/3.6/win32/ |
| 15:20.06 | asmodai | there you go :) |
| 15:20.15 | asmodai | fast mirror of the release binaries |
| 15:20.20 | [Ammo] | local mirror yumyum |
| 15:20.21 | [Ammo] | hides |
| 15:20.25 | asmodai | [Ammo]: :) |
| 15:20.33 | yoshimo | i guess download is officially published if all mirrors have the file available |
| 15:20.33 | [Ammo] | was in the board of SNT for 3 years :p |
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| 15:22.59 | sb|work | Myrroddin: smartres does some strange stuff for me :/ (ress not completing comehow, tries to ress "ressurected" people again etc.) - so its not working at all for me :o |
| 15:23.31 | asmodai | cool, at least my HTML5 MathML works with Firefox 3.6 |
| 15:23.52 | Myrroddin | sb|work hang on, i'm about to repo r76 then we can talk about it |
| 15:24.07 | asmodai | sb|work: btw, heard nothing back yet from the magazine, only some automated response |
| 15:24.32 | sb|work | mh.. okay - they should fix their website first :/ |
| 15:24.44 | nevcairiel | disabled all my firefox extensions and running the benchmarks in 3.5 3.6 and trunk build .. lets see :d |
| 15:24.51 | asmodai | nevcairiel: :) |
| 15:25.05 | nevcairiel | also chrome, but only have its dev channel around |
| 15:25.28 | Ackis | Myrroddin: I dreamt about you last night |
| 15:25.35 | yoshimo | which benchmarks are you using nevcairiel? |
| 15:25.41 | Myrroddin | ackis!!! was i good? |
| 15:25.41 | nevcairiel | sunspider |
| 15:25.46 | nevcairiel | for one |
| 15:25.52 | nevcairiel | its just js performance, but yea |
| 15:26.01 | Ackis | Myrroddin: we didn't do that! just cuddled |
| 15:26.19 | Myrroddin | Ackis: awww dammit! :P\ |
| 15:26.22 | Myrroddin | :P |
| 15:27.31 | Megalon | weeeeee |
| 15:27.40 | nevcairiel | hm chrome seems still to be alot faster then firefox, at least 20% in sunspider |
| 15:29.41 | Stanzilla | and opera 10.50 is even faster |
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| 15:30.09 | nevcairiel | 10.10 at least is absolutely damn slow |
| 15:31.17 | mitch0 | nev: the opera teams claims 7x speed improvement in the JS engine |
| 15:31.35 | Stanzilla | it's faster than chrome 4 |
| 15:31.54 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/Opera_1050_3202_en.exe |
| 15:32.10 | nevcairiel | meh, lets run that too, then! |
| 15:32.47 | nevcairiel | we all agree that opera 10.10 isnt worth testing even, yes? |
| 15:32.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 15:33.18 | Myrroddin | Ackis: call my cell |
| 15:33.21 | Stanzilla | safari should be the fastest |
| 15:33.26 | Ackis | Myrroddin: at work right now, sup/ |
| 15:33.32 | nevcairiel | fun fact: having addons enabled or disabled in firefox doesnt make much of a difference :d |
| 15:33.55 | Myrroddin | Ackis: ah, you can't call then. was wondering if you wanted to grab a brew on the weekend |
| 15:34.09 | Megalon | nev: startup time or what? |
| 15:34.14 | Ackis | we're planning on going to the pet expo sometime this weekend, other than that we have no plans |
| 15:34.15 | nevcairiel | js processing |
| 15:35.07 | Megalon | just install more addons! |
| 15:35.15 | vhaarr | Total: 793.4ms +/- 1.6% on my firefox-3.7 nightly |
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| 15:35.21 | asmodai | nevcairiel / yoshimo : http://dromaeo.com/ |
| 15:35.29 | nevcairiel | also, since when does opera look like chrome? |
| 15:35.46 | Stanzilla | since 10.5 :p |
| 15:35.53 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: those values only work well in combination with other values .. as absolutes they dont mean anything |
| 15:35.58 | vhaarr | I know |
| 15:36.00 | Stanzilla | and fx4.0 will look the same |
| 15:36.05 | Myrroddin | Ackis: i am also free today. day off. or weekend, when you are available |
| 15:36.08 | Stanzilla | I think opera and fx have the same designers now |
| 15:36.21 | pentium166 | is there a screenshot of opera looking like chrome anywhere? |
| 15:36.24 | nevcairiel | http://dpaste.com/148433/ |
| 15:36.24 | Ackis | Myrroddin: tomorrow night/weekend nights |
| 15:36.29 | nevcairiel | thats what i just tested |
| 15:37.19 | Myrroddin | Ackis: I am home at 11 pm tomorrow, and will need food. but also a dire need of a shower |
| 15:37.19 | mitch0 | nev: uh, opera 10.50 is indeed fast (at least on this benchmark) |
| 15:37.32 | Stanzilla | pentium166: http://cache.techie-buzz.com/images/posts/pallab/opera_105.jpg |
| 15:37.56 | pentium166 | ugh :( |
| 15:38.18 | vhaarr | the problem with anything except firefox is that I can't update it automatically like I do with mozilla-central |
| 15:38.24 | Stanzilla | pre alpha. they know it currently looks like shit :p |
| 15:38.37 | mitch0 | vhaarr: erm, opera has auto-update? |
| 15:38.42 | nevcairiel | chromium also has nightlys |
| 15:38.43 | Stanzilla | chrome has auto update! |
| 15:38.57 | koaschten_ | http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=8742 awesome, notice no.7 of most used passwords on rockyou.com |
| 15:38.58 | vhaarr | yeah I tried the chromium ppa here but the interface there was just crap |
| 15:39.03 | vhaarr | and opera doesn't have source access |
| 15:39.09 | mitch0 | that's true |
| 15:39.12 | Ackis | Myrroddin: maybe saturday then |
| 15:39.18 | mitch0 | but it works :) |
| 15:39.24 | vhaarr | so does ff :p |
| 15:39.37 | Myrroddin | Ackis: sure, give me a call. I don't work weekends |
| 15:39.49 | Ackis | kk |
| 15:40.10 | nevcairiel | the upcoming changes for firefox will make it faster, too, but they are currently in branches |
| 15:40.15 | nevcairiel | like multi-threaded rendering |
| 15:40.27 | vhaarr | you mean the OOP plugins branch? |
| 15:40.39 | nevcairiel | nah, there are other branches :d |
| 15:40.39 | koaschten_ | the most important thing to change for firefox in any release that could come up would be improved memory management >:( |
| 15:41.05 | vhaarr | firefox has good memory management, the problem is the underlying window managers |
| 15:41.10 | Arrowmaster | its still got leaks |
| 15:41.20 | vhaarr | like image resources in X and the DLL unloading in windows |
| 15:41.33 | vhaarr | and the other browsers don't leak? :P |
| 15:41.37 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: electrolysis? |
| 15:41.37 | Myrroddin | Ackis: i know you are at work, but are you ok to look at code? |
| 15:42.03 | nevcairiel | i think that was the name |
| 15:42.21 | koaschten_ | my point being, no browser leaks as badly and slows down like firefox using 15+tabs and not restarting the browser for extended times (week+) |
| 15:42.23 | nevcairiel | and there is additionaly the Layers-API branch that uses hardware accelerated rendering |
| 15:42.30 | Ackis | Myrroddin: send it to me, I can't look right at this moment |
| 15:42.48 | nevcairiel | I still dont get why people dont just restart their browser now and then .. when i'm finished with a tab, i close it :P |
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| 15:42.57 | vhaarr | electrolysis isn't multithreaded rendering, it's just separation of UI and content and OOP plugins |
| 15:43.09 | Arrowmaster | because i like to leave lots of tabs open |
| 15:43.09 | nevcairiel | there was another, then |
| 15:43.12 | nevcairiel | i read it last week somwhere |
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| 15:43.18 | Arrowmaster | and restarting causes the tabs to close |
| 15:43.24 | nevcairiel | not necessarily |
| 15:43.31 | nevcairiel | it can remember them and reopen them afterwards :P |
| 15:43.37 | koaschten_ | Arrowmaster thats what tabmix+ is for ;) |
| 15:43.43 | Arrowmaster | its not 100% though |
| 15:43.43 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r76 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:43.44 | Repo | added the slash command "cast" per request. fires the smart resurrection function. for you macro lovers! |
| 15:43.45 | nevcairiel | even without addons, tbh |
| 15:43.52 | Stanzilla | The Mozilla platform will use separate processes to display the browser UI, web content, and plugins. The working name for this project is Electrolysis, sometimes shortened to e10s. |
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| 15:45.59 | Myrroddin | sb|work: do you have a bugsack? does sr2 throw an error? |
| 15:47.18 | vhaarr | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/21/1441210/YouTube-Offers-Experimental-Opt-In-HTML5-Video |
| 15:47.28 | nevcairiel | finally something good |
| 15:48.02 | nevcairiel | but they used h.264, so no firefox, bah |
| 15:48.03 | Stanzilla | doesn't work in failfox tho :p |
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| 15:52.52 | Yivry | gha! stupid settings or smt |
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| 15:56.06 | steev | who still uses failfox? |
| 15:56.16 | Ackis | me |
| 15:56.36 | Yivry | "Captions, ads, and annotations aren't yet supported" whoo! :P |
| 15:56.44 | nevcairiel | I use it because chrome still lacks some addons i can't life without :d |
| 15:57.18 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Did you add the T10 2p Holy for pallies as additive or multiplicative? |
| 15:57.37 | nicoli_s | ff rocks |
| 15:57.46 | nicoli_s | and firebug > webkit inspector |
| 16:01.40 | durcyn | there's a firebug extension for chrome, QED |
| 16:02.14 | vhaarr | as long as you don't use IE, who the hell cares anyway |
| 16:02.26 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Additive I see. Have you confirmed that? |
| 16:02.38 | durcyn | vhaarr: firefox is the new IE! =P |
| 16:02.55 | Megalon | and macos the new windows |
| 16:02.58 | Ackis | adblock > all |
| 16:03.03 | Ackis | I hate seeing those curse.com ads |
| 16:03.04 | vhaarr | tacos is the new pizza |
| 16:03.04 | Ackis | :D |
| 16:03.11 | durcyn | Ackis: adzapper. |
| 16:03.13 | genetik- | pizza? now that's what i call a taco |
| 16:03.14 | mitch0 | ackis: there's adblock for opera, too |
| 16:03.17 | mitch0 | anyway, off |
| 16:03.26 | durcyn | browser plugins are so quaint. |
| 16:03.49 | vhaarr | gives durcyn a taco-flavoured kiss and heads off to dinner |
| 16:03.52 | vhaarr | tacos inc! |
| 16:04.17 | Myrroddin | Ackis: how do you want the file sent? |
| 16:04.29 | Ackis | Myrroddin: pastey? :P |
| 16:05.07 | Myrroddin | sure, hang on |
| 16:08.06 | Myrroddin | Ackis: http://pastey.net/131762 the trouble could be line 859. waitingForAccept{} is someone who has been ressed, but has not clicked "OK" ... currently, the res function keeps trying to cast on that unit until they accept. just wondering if i formatted the variable unitId properly, or if that is the correct variable |
| 16:14.12 | Arrowmaster | well you probably should only be going over the party units if you are in a party but not a raid |
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| 16:15.16 | Myrroddin | Arrowmaster: I didn't write that code. how would you fix it? |
| 16:15.47 | Arrowmaster | by checking if you are in a raid |
| 16:16.39 | Ackis | but that wouldn't be the issue that's causing the re-rez stuff |
| 16:17.17 | Arrowmaster | obviously the unit is not being marked as waiting to res |
| 16:17.41 | Myrroddin | right... i'm wondering if i have the wrong variable |
| 16:17.57 | Arrowmaster | check where it gets set? |
| 16:18.05 | Myrroddin | in the rescomm events, there is the variable target |
| 16:18.40 | Myrroddin | and doesn't line 870 - 882 check for party/raid? |
| 16:19.01 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: that's what I was just doing, function SmartRes2:ResComm_ResEnd(event, sender, target) <-- callback |
| 16:19.29 | Myrroddin | Arrowmaster: line 733 sets waitingForAccept{} |
| 16:20.02 | Ackis | Myrroddin: waitingForAccept[target] = { target = target, sender = sender, endTime = doingRessing[sender].endTime } line 733... you probably don't need the target = target as you're using target for your keys in the array |
| 16:20.18 | Myrroddin | yeah, function starts 728 |
| 16:20.20 | Arrowmaster | ok this problem is blaently obvious |
| 16:20.23 | Arrowmaster | and stupid |
| 16:20.55 | Myrroddin | *sigh* i knew it. it is always the simple stuff that i mess up the hardest |
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| 16:21.09 | Arrowmaster | waitingForAccept.unitId WRONG |
| 16:21.14 | Arrowmaster | waitingForAccept[unitId] |
| 16:21.22 | Arrowmaster | ~pil |
| 16:21.23 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:21.23 | Myrroddin | d'oh!!!! |
| 16:22.51 | Myrroddin | man, if that fixes it, i'm going to do a /facepalm followed by a /headdesk |
| 16:26.09 | Myrroddin | the only other question i have before i set beta flag is about the chat notification for colliding resses. they start line 1001 - 1038 ... for reasons i cannot fathom, no chat gets printed at all. at least not that i could see |
| 16:26.18 | yoshimo | ~seen Aznamir |
| 16:26.19 | purl | aznamir <n=a@ool-18e45e8f.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 24d 20h 28m 59s ago, saying: 'Any Grid authors here?'. |
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| 16:30.26 | Ackis | have you tested the sendchatmessage functions with your input to see if they work? |
| 16:30.47 | Megalon | not self.db.profile.notifyCollision == "0-off" |
| 16:30.52 | Megalon | this will always be false |
| 16:31.04 | Megalon | because the 'not' is applied to the first argument |
| 16:31.08 | Megalon | not the result of the '==' |
| 16:31.09 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:32.30 | Megalon | lua> not "b" == "a" |
| 16:32.30 | lua_bot | Megalon: false |
| 16:32.31 | Megalon | lua> not ("b" == "a") |
| 16:32.31 | lua_bot | Megalon: true |
| 16:32.46 | nicoli_s | wtf |
| 16:32.46 | Megalon | you see what lua did there |
| 16:32.48 | nevcairiel | not has the highest binding |
| 16:32.54 | nevcairiel | in nearly all languages, tbh |
| 16:33.07 | Megalon | yea, also don't know one by hand |
| 16:33.16 | Megalon | where not isn't at the top of logic operators |
| 16:33.46 | Arrowmaster | actually yeah why the hell would anybody ever use 'not (self.db.profile.notifyCollision == "0-off")' just do 'self.db.profile.notifyCollision ~= "0-off"' |
| 16:34.10 | nevcairiel | there are cases where that might more sense, maybe :d |
| 16:34.15 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:34.18 | Arrowmaster | none at all |
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| 16:37.48 | Myrroddin | i can change that |
| 16:38.04 | nevcairiel | if you build a more complex logical expression, it might simply be more clear to have a not around the whole thing :P |
| 16:38.35 | nevcairiel | not a and b is not equal to not (a and b) etc :P |
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| 16:43.13 | Myrroddin | alright, i changed the not lines to ~= lines |
| 16:46.05 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1205 Data/Druid.lua: |
| 16:46.22 | Repo | - 2p T10 resto multiplies Wild Growth total base heal by 79/70 ~= 12.85% |
| 16:48.04 | Megalon | 2p10 resto is so :< |
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| 16:50.40 | Gagorian | Seems pretty fail indeed |
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| 16:51.47 | Myrroddin | any suggestions on that chat output, other than the not / ~= ? |
| 16:52.32 | Megalon | Gagorian: yea, always nice to have a bonus "increases base healing of the spell by 5%" |
| 16:52.33 | Megalon | :x |
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| 16:54.41 | Gagorian | Myrroddin: Is there a problem still? |
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| 16:55.19 | Ackis | have you tested the sendchatmessage functions with your input to see if they work? :P |
| 16:55.45 | Myrroddin | i'm not sure. when i tested with r74 last week, the chat notification for colliding resses didn't seem to work. nothing appeared in chat that i could see. no bugsack errors thow |
| 16:55.59 | Myrroddin | what do you mean, Ackis? |
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| 16:57.08 | Ackis | run SendChatMessage(L["SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s."], blah by itself to see if that works |
| 16:57.08 | Ackis | then you know if it's an issue w/ how you're using sendChatMessage vs a logic error |
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| 17:04.18 | Myrroddin | Ackis, ok, it simply printed "SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s." into /say |
| 17:04.23 | steev | what is this about "cross-realm damage meters are wrong" |
| 17:04.50 | Ackis | Myrroddin: you have to test the entire line of code that you have (You split it on to two lines) |
| 17:09.21 | Myrroddin | assuming i did it correctly, it is giving a nil value error |
| 17:10.25 | Myrroddin | I put /run SendChatMessage("SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s.", SAY):format(UnitName("player"), UnitName("player")) into chat |
| 17:13.52 | Gagorian | Anyone logged on a level 80 mage? |
| 17:15.05 | steev | if we extended last week 10 man id, would we only get putricide, or would we have a shot at the princes and bql as well? |
| 17:18.18 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * Beta4-21-g07a6359 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 17:18.20 | Repo | 07a6359: Mount and Pet database cleanup |
| 17:18.21 | Repo | 4bd6e2c: Removed an unnecessary mob from the mob database. |
| 17:18.30 | Shadowed | Gagorian: Was talking to a Paladin who has it, and it sounds additive |
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| 17:21.42 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r131 / (2 files in 2 directories): disable showSuffix if showValue is disabled |
| 17:22.03 | Gagorian | Shadowed: hmmmm.. well a bit vague |
| 17:22.35 | Shadowed | Given wording I'm assuming it's additive |
| 17:23.17 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 04v1.8.2 * r132 : Tagging as v1.8.2 |
| 17:23.19 | Repo | - added options to show .value and .suffix instead of .text |
| 17:23.35 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5.6-6-g95a0735 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed LibHealComm-4.0.lua:1013 error |
| 17:25.24 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Possibly but Blizzard and wording is never a guarantee :P |
| 17:25.32 | Gagorian | Will have to investigate |
| 17:25.33 | Shadowed | which is why I haven't tagged it :p |
| 17:25.45 | Shadowed | I don't have a Paladin so I can't test it really |
| 17:26.37 | steev | anyone have a WoL of BQL and an unholy DK who got bitten? |
| 17:27.46 | Gagorian | Shadowed: While I prodded around your code I see you've attempted to implement downranking penalties |
| 17:27.57 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r77 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:27.59 | Repo | probable fix for ticket # 23 keeps trying to res someone already ressed, but not accepted |
| 17:28.30 | Shadowed | Attempted? I haven't double checked for a patch or two, but it worked when I tried |
| 17:28.45 | Gagorian | Shadowed: I stopped doing that after every spell I tested in TBC got f'd over in Wotlk.. But to the point; Have you tested it to work with most spells? |
| 17:29.05 | Shadowed | Yea I tested it with every spell |
| 17:29.15 | Gagorian | Since several spells used to have arbitrary random rules about downranking |
| 17:29.29 | Gagorian | Mostly damage spells I guess |
| 17:29.39 | Shadowed | yea damage spells are the wonky ones |
| 17:29.55 | Shadowed | As of 3.2.2 all the down ranking calculations for LHC4 are accurate as far as I can recall |
| 17:30.41 | Gagorian | Well even if downranking is useless I could implement it so that people won't complain about "errors" |
| 17:31.02 | Shadowed | Have you seen rankwatch? :P |
| 17:31.10 | Shadowed | It's pretty common for people to down rank without knowing |
| 17:31.26 | Gagorian | >_> |
| 17:31.45 | Gagorian | *facepalm + sigh* |
| 17:31.49 | genetik- | that addon makes random 5mans infinitely more enjoyable |
| 17:32.29 | Myrroddin | it does... i get a huge kick out of RankWatch |
| 17:32.47 | genetik- | saw a hunter use a rank 1 arcane shot last night |
| 17:33.35 | genetik- | i keep it silent, though.. i don't really care if random people are dumb/ignorant |
| 17:33.43 | genetik- | purely for my entertainment |
| 17:34.39 | genetik- | another time, a holy priest used a rank 1 prayer of healing to heal only theirself |
| 17:35.27 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Your [spellname].levels are all the levels the spell is learned on? |
| 17:36.09 | Shadowed | yes |
| 17:36.45 | Arrowmaster | Myrroddin: everything about that SendChatMessage call is wrong |
| 17:37.08 | asmodai | soot |
| 17:37.11 | asmodai | err, woot |
| 17:37.37 | Arrowmaster | SendChatMessage(("SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s."):format(UnitName("player"), UnitName("player")), "SAY") |
| 17:39.08 | Gagorian | Shadowed: The reason I thought even heals had wonky downranking rules since Wotlk was this: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/20133929146-33-ptr-rejuv-change.html |
| 17:39.22 | Myrroddin | d'oh.. thanks Arrowmaster |
| 17:39.22 | Gagorian | Scroll down a few posts and see the example |
| 17:40.09 | Myrroddin | that worked perfectly, of course |
| 17:40.28 | Shadowed | If caster level is less than max caster level, then the penalty = 1.0. |
| 17:40.28 | Shadowed | If caster level is at or greater than max caster level, then the penalty = (22 + max level - caster level) / 20. |
| 17:40.29 | Shadowed | The penalty is capped at 0. Max caster level per spell is also pretty inconsistent, but it's around 4 levels higher than the level at which you get the spell. |
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| 17:40.46 | Shadowed | That's pretty much exactly what I do |
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| 17:41.03 | Shadowed | actually mmm |
| 17:41.25 | Gagorian | "Max caster level per spell is also pretty inconsistent" |
| 17:41.41 | Gagorian | So that's what made me shiver about the thought of doing it |
| 17:41.43 | Shadowed | He means the last rank of a spell is inconsistent |
| 17:42.09 | Gagorian | Don't think so |
| 17:42.51 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 17:43.05 | Shadowed | I'm 99.99% sure the downranking works at 80 and 1 |
| 17:43.12 | Shadowed | I don't have mid level healers to test with though |
| 17:43.32 | Shadowed | 80 downranking is what I worry more about than 1-79 though |
| 17:43.51 | nevcairiel | I like how GC said in that rejuv thread that they do away with spell ranks, though |
| 17:44.12 | Gagorian | Cataclysm |
| 17:44.19 | Shadowed | Cataclysm will hopefully simplify a lot of the healing calculations |
| 17:44.22 | Shadowed | actually no it won't |
| 17:44.26 | Shadowed | It's going to make it more of a bitch :< |
| 17:44.36 | Gagorian | Oh don't even talk about it... |
| 17:44.44 | Shadowed | GO MASTERY |
| 17:44.57 | Myrroddin | well, that would also mean |
| 17:44.59 | arkanes_ | maybe they'll move LHC into the client |
| 17:45.04 | Gagorian | I would have to redo everything :D |
| 17:45.16 | Gagorian | Well, the class modules that is |
| 17:45.35 | Myrroddin | SendChatMessage(L["SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s."], chatType, nil, currentRes[target].sender):format(target, sender) |
| 17:45.35 | Myrroddin | is totally wrong |
| 17:45.36 | Myrroddin | for a whisper |
| 17:45.43 | Shadowed | I doubt that |
| 17:45.50 | Shadowed | but maybe |
| 17:45.55 | Arrowmaster | yes its wrong |
| 17:46.01 | Gagorian | Well they're planning on a massive talent revamp |
| 17:46.03 | Arrowmaster | the format is in the wrong place |
| 17:46.24 | nevcairiel | cata will be alot of work for all addons that work with spell data |
| 17:46.25 | Shadowed | Yea I doubt they'll incorporate LHC into the game though |
| 17:46.30 | arkanes_ | it'd be really neat if info about expected healing or whatever was in the combat log message |
| 17:46.33 | Shadowed | sadly |
| 17:46.39 | arkanes_ | yeah on thinking though its doubtful :( |
| 17:46.43 | Shadowed | Cataclysm will be fun |
| 17:46.45 | Shadowed | EG and LHC rewrite |
| 17:46.48 | durcyn | SendChatMessage(string:format(args), WHISPER, nil person) |
| 17:46.49 | durcyn | ffs |
| 17:46.56 | durcyn | and with an extra comma |
| 17:47.02 | arkanes_ | more likely, but still probably not going to happen would be moving DrDamage or similar into it |
| 17:47.24 | nevcairiel | they have been talking about accurate tooltips since 1.0 |
| 17:47.26 | arkanes_ | by making a GetSpellDetailedInfo or something that correctly reflects mastery, spellpower, and all that jazz |
| 17:47.28 | nevcairiel | its never happening, though :P |
| 17:47.38 | arkanes_ | I know why buff tooltips are so hard |
| 17:48.00 | arkanes_ | ability tooltips should be relatively simple, especially since they have the tech for it, it's just a matter of development priority |
| 17:48.11 | asmodai | stalks around some more for Antiarc |
| 17:48.26 | Shadowed | Accurate tooltips would be too much of a pain I'd think |
| 17:48.42 | arkanes_ | its not even as much work as DrDamage already does |
| 17:48.48 | Shadowed | Well yea :p |
| 17:48.54 | arkanes_ | + the benefit of the client having direct access to its own numbers |
| 17:48.56 | Shadowed | but it's not like they calculate the numbers on the client |
| 17:48.59 | Gagorian | It would be way easier for them to do it :P |
| 17:49.11 | Shadowed | Although it's kind of odd they modify the tooltips based on talents sometimes |
| 17:49.15 | arkanes_ | they already have dynamic tooltips for some abilities |
| 17:49.20 | Shadowed | I wonder if that's just so people don't complain a talent didn't do anything |
| 17:49.22 | arkanes_ | its clearly special cased |
| 17:49.25 | Shadowed | more than to make it "accurate" |
| 17:49.44 | arkanes_ | but it wouldnt be especially difficult for them to generalize it up a bit |
| 17:49.56 | nevcairiel | only cast time changes are reflected in the tooltip, iirc .. or are they not? |
| 17:50.08 | Arrowmaster | cast times and heal/damage values |
| 17:50.20 | Arrowmaster | buff effects and such too i guess |
| 17:50.23 | Myrroddin | SendChatMessage((L["SmartRes2 would like you to know that %s is already being ressed by %s."]):format(target, sender), chatType, nil, currentRes[target].sender) should be much better |
| 17:50.24 | arkanes_ | not all heal/damage values |
| 17:50.28 | Shadowed | Yea they even changed how healing values were shown on the tooltips in 3.2 |
| 17:50.34 | Shadowed | to factor in more talents, it was odd |
| 17:50.57 | nevcairiel | but only talent improvements, not generally spell power stuff, right? |
| 17:50.57 | Arrowmaster | well on my warlock everything was factored in afaik |
| 17:51.00 | arkanes_ | the only thing that makes it unlikely to happen is that its a fair amount of dev work to get it going |
| 17:51.01 | Shadowed | yea |
| 17:51.01 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 17:51.16 | nevcairiel | so its only the "constant" values |
| 17:51.17 | Arrowmaster | and those tooltips arent even accurate as Gagorian knows |
| 17:51.25 | nevcairiel | nothing that changes on variables like gear, buffs, and whatnot |
| 17:51.28 | arkanes_ | and they may well decide its not worth it, especially since they've taken to hotfixing spells on the server and just letting the tooltips be wrong for months at a time |
| 17:51.53 | nevcairiel | well they dont push out client patches just for cosmetic fixes :D |
| 17:51.59 | arkanes_ | but they could! |
| 17:52.59 | Gagorian | Shadowed: I actually had the exact same formula as you had in place ever since I tested it sometime in the beginning of wotlk, it was just commented out cause it didn't work on everything |
| 17:53.28 | arkanes_ | Shadowed: correct me if I'm wrong, but LHC works by the caster of the heal guessing how much it will heal for and sending that, correct? |
| 17:53.31 | Gagorian | But it was probably damage spells, don't remember exactly what |
| 17:53.35 | arkanes_ | it's not done by the receiver of the message |
| 17:53.38 | Shadowed | yes |
| 17:53.53 | nevcairiel | the receiver doesnt have the data needed |
| 17:53.58 | arkanes_ | then cat shouldn't really complicate that too much, although all the work will have to be redone |
| 17:54.00 | arkanes_ | nevcairiel: right |
| 17:54.08 | Shadowed | That's why people complain about the comms cause one heal = one send |
| 17:54.32 | Shadowed | Technically, you could make it so the receiver had the necessary data so you reduced the message size, but it's a ton of work for little gain |
| 17:54.36 | nevcairiel | I would be happy enough with a LHC-light that just tells me "<dude> is healing <guy>" |
| 17:54.41 | arkanes_ | nevcairiel: way back in classic when I independently invented LHC I made some attempts at clientside guessing also but it just wasn't that useful |
| 17:54.44 | Shadowed | and you end up sending more data than it's worth |
| 17:54.52 | nevcairiel | all i show on my UFs are green dots for incoming heals |
| 17:54.55 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: Just do it yourself and watch the cast events :p |
| 17:55.03 | nevcairiel | i don't have enough time in fight to read numbers |
| 17:55.06 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: it wouldnt reduce comms at all when you consider all the temp buffs that can effect spellpower |
| 17:55.14 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: yea |
| 17:55.18 | Gagorian | Shadowed: You remember if you had any spells that didn't downrank? Since a few damage spells at least don't. |
| 17:55.37 | Shadowed | you just trade more messages for smaller ones |
| 17:55.54 | Shadowed | Gagorian: They all down rank except the ones that have no previous ranks |
| 17:56.28 | arkanes_ | Shadowed: I guess you could look at the last combat log for how much the last cast of that same spell from that caster was for and use that |
| 17:56.43 | Shadowed | Too inaccurate with cooldowns |
| 17:56.59 | nevcairiel | I still argue that most healers don't even want/need the numbers, the state is fine :P |
| 17:57.03 | Shadowed | yea |
| 17:57.06 | arkanes_ | does anyone actually rely on LHC to be accurate to more than an order of magnitude? |
| 17:57.11 | Shadowed | I still like the numbers but you're right |
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| 17:57.26 | arkanes_ | I like knowing if its a holy light or a flash |
| 17:57.52 | arkanes_ | but I basically tell that by how big the overlay on the health bar is, I don't care if its 10k vs 11k |
| 17:58.05 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r78 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:58.07 | Repo | chat notification for collisions should be working. need group to test! yeah, Arrowmaster, I'm a noob |
| 17:58.50 | arkanes_ | I actually had a lot more info in my old classic mod :( |
| 17:58.50 | Shadowed | It's not a question of 10k, it's more a question of 10k vs 5k |
| 17:59.00 | arkanes_ | Shadowed: right |
| 17:59.16 | arkanes_ | but the 10k vs 11k from him popping his sp trinket I don't care about |
| 17:59.20 | Shadowed | what if they end up with some big spell on a boss fight that increases/decreases healing done, what about MS or things like avenging wrath etc |
| 17:59.32 | Shadowed | divine illumination from 2 piece T10 and such |
| 17:59.33 | arkanes_ | MS you can tell client side |
| 17:59.38 | Shadowed | all throw the numbers off more |
| 17:59.49 | arkanes_ | buffs on the healing target I wouldn't worry about |
| 17:59.53 | Shadowed | and just means you record a lot of different data to try and guess |
| 18:00.24 | Shadowed | It's probably doable, but it's not something I'm going to spend time rewriting LHC for :p |
| 18:00.33 | arkanes_ | wings or t10 2 piece matter a little more but honestly I think I'd just not care |
| 18:00.53 | Shadowed | And if you don't care, you'd just want "Is it heal X or Y inc" |
| 18:00.58 | arkanes_ | need some sort of protocol negotiation phase |
| 18:01.03 | Shadowed | rather than numbers |
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| 18:01.13 | arkanes_ | where all the LHCs in the raid get together and decide how much data they need to dump |
| 18:01.43 | arkanes_ | or I suppose we could just stop obessesing over comms |
| 18:02.16 | Shadowed | that too |
| 18:02.58 | steev | one of our rogues ran some kinda profiler or some such the other day |
| 18:03.00 | yoshimo | arkanes, people think that each bit sent is one too much |
| 18:03.06 | arkanes_ | Shadowed: my ideal would be something like, upon joining the raid, PaladinBob sends a message thats something like "my HL heals for 11k and my flash heals for 3500" and then thats what my client uses the whole time |
| 18:03.13 | steev | in the first 3 minutes of trash, lhc sent around 40k of info |
| 18:03.36 | arkanes_ | steev: which is hardly anything |
| 18:03.46 | arkanes_ | and certainly not worth bothering with |
| 18:03.58 | yoshimo | how much traffic will the wow server send you in 3m? ;) |
| 18:04.10 | steev | yoshimo: not nearly that |
| 18:04.16 | arkanes_ | incorrect |
| 18:04.37 | arkanes_ | did he check the size of his combat log after that 3 minutes of trash? |
| 18:05.12 | arkanes_ | your MSN client in the background probably used more bandwidth than that just checking status messages in that same timeframe |
| 18:05.17 | Shadowed | Combat log, health updates, power updates, movement, etc |
| 18:05.39 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 18:05.40 | yoshimo | does the client decide what to display in the cl or does the server send you the whole cl? |
| 18:05.40 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 16 days ago |
| 18:05.51 | arkanes_ | I suspect that addoncomms are compressed below the level of the API we use to measure them, too |
| 18:06.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont |
| 18:06.20 | arkanes_ | yoshimo: it would make sense for there to be server side subscriptions, but theres issues with that model too so who knows |
| 18:06.40 | arkanes_ | you could find out if you spend some time with wireshark |
| 18:07.10 | Arrowmaster | i would, if i had an active subscription |
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| 18:07.34 | arkanes_ | I have only idle curiosity in the matter, which isnt enough to motivate me |
| 18:13.04 | TNSe | lhc? |
| 18:13.09 | TNSe | lights hope chapel? |
| 18:13.10 | mitchnull | some idle time and killing a moth in the starter area (~ 25 sec capture): 9781 bytes |
| 18:13.24 | TNSe | large hadron collider? |
| 18:13.55 | mitchnull | steev: ^ (that without any "comms" addon) |
| 18:14.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r7081 Citadel/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE Update |
| 18:14.22 | mitchnull | that reminds me, I should nail down which addon of mine causes the wow crash on reload |
| 18:14.40 | yoshimo | TNSe , libhealcomm usually ;) |
| 18:14.47 | TNSe | ooo |
| 18:14.54 | TNSe | yeah |
| 18:15.01 | TNSe | I swear lhc has disconnected me from time to time |
| 18:15.18 | TNSe | but worst part is how I can disconnect half of raid at ony-25 |
| 18:15.20 | TNSe | by fading |
| 18:15.45 | TNSe | not sure if its lhc but I'm pretty sure its addon related |
| 18:15.50 | arkanes_ | I suspect that has nothing to do with lhc at all |
| 18:16.06 | arkanes_ | are you running some retarded ancient version of libthreat? |
| 18:16.09 | TNSe | my entire screen is full of *AGGRO* |
| 18:16.11 | TNSe | and then I'll fade |
| 18:16.15 | TNSe | and wham half raid gone |
| 18:16.19 | TNSe | so I'm banned from fading at ony |
| 18:16.37 | yoshimo | arkanes, usually if something SENTS to much traffic you get kicked for flooding, but its rare |
| 18:16.42 | arkanes_ | or I suppose its possible that the client threat updates go through the addon comms traffic limit |
| 18:17.12 | arkanes_ | people are also really eager to ascribe all sorts of magic behaviors to crazy things |
| 18:17.12 | TNSe | I could control it quite good though |
| 18:17.18 | Pneumatus | holy crap, i got ranked #1 discpriest on WoL for lanathel 10man last night :o |
| 18:17.21 | TNSe | it happened 4 times in a row |
| 18:17.30 | mitchnull | meh, and now I can't reproduce the crash |
| 18:17.38 | arkanes_ | TNSe: people crash out on Ony for all kinds of reasons |
| 18:17.50 | TNSe | yeah, but it happened just as I faded 4 times in a row :P |
| 18:18.00 | TNSe | we were trying to do achiev |
| 18:18.20 | TNSe | and I'd aggro like mad pws'ing entire raid |
| 18:18.40 | TNSe | then the idea was that everything would run to me where tanks were ready |
| 18:18.42 | TNSe | and Id' fade |
| 18:18.49 | TNSe | instead I'd just disconnect half the raid over and over again |
| 18:20.04 | TNSe | we did it just fine after I was banned from fading |
| 18:20.10 | arkanes_ | shrug |
| 18:20.14 | arkanes_ | stuff happens |
| 18:20.19 | arkanes_ | chance of it being addon related is minimal |
| 18:20.50 | TNSe | you think it was an issue in wow itself? |
| 18:21.12 | arkanes_ | like yoshimo said, you don't get DCed for recieving lots of comms |
| 18:21.29 | TNSe | maybe people spammed out they had aggro |
| 18:21.32 | TNSe | instead |
| 18:21.42 | TNSe | since all the whelps would semi-randomly pick targets |
| 18:21.50 | arkanes_ | addons dont send that kind of info |
| 18:21.54 | TNSe | no? |
| 18:21.57 | arkanes_ | its part of the native wow traffic |
| 18:22.02 | arkanes_ | I mean I suppose something might |
| 18:22.05 | arkanes_ | but nothing common |
| 18:22.18 | arkanes_ | but even then |
| 18:22.19 | TNSe | well, itw as hillarious until it became annoying :P |
| 18:22.39 | arkanes_ | what did you do inwstead of fading, just get eaten? |
| 18:22.43 | arkanes_ | or did you do the encounter differently instead |
| 18:22.53 | TNSe | I just sat in a corner emo'ing |
| 18:23.12 | TNSe | + holy nova :P |
| 18:23.16 | arkanes_ | so given that theres all kinds of other things it could have been |
| 18:23.27 | Shadowed | You can get DCed from addon comms, it's just generally related more to the quantity not the size |
| 18:23.36 | Shadowed | and it's in combination of other factors like all the other data the game is sending |
| 18:23.44 | TNSe | obviously, it was just horridly annoying to wipe 4 times due to things we couldn't do anything with except avoid using abilities :P |
| 18:23.47 | arkanes_ | theres a number of things that can DC you |
| 18:24.01 | TNSe | heck |
| 18:24.08 | Shadowed | Yes, and addon comms are one of those :p |
| 18:24.09 | TNSe | I still remember teh problem with glyph of pws |
| 18:24.10 | arkanes_ | FPS lag can, because the game will drop you if you're too slow processing updates |
| 18:24.11 | Shadowed | It's just more rare |
| 18:24.21 | TNSe | heroic toc 25 |
| 18:24.24 | TNSe | I pws tank |
| 18:24.31 | TNSe | suddenly icehowl attacks me |
| 18:24.35 | arkanes_ | if people are using mouseover threat mods or something, that poll for threat, I can easily see that causing a problem |
| 18:24.35 | TNSe | runs across half the room |
| 18:24.37 | TNSe | one shots me |
| 18:24.39 | TNSe | runs back to tank |
| 18:24.57 | TNSe | entire raid was like "wha-" |
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| 18:25.28 | TNSe | "PRIEST HAS Ag...gro?" |
| 18:26.20 | TNSe | I did nearly 2000 dps that day |
| 18:26.37 | TNSe | pws arcane mages at 3 stack ab |
| 18:26.53 | TNSe | got some serious deep wound damage too |
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| 18:27.57 | NivFreak | that was a funny day |
| 18:28.02 | TNSe | sure was |
| 18:28.04 | Ackis | laughs at Kaelten |
| 18:28.16 | TNSe | but death at icehowl was funky |
| 18:28.27 | TNSe | as I' |
| 18:28.34 | TNSe | as I'd pws the tank that was about to taunt |
| 18:28.35 | NivFreak | our disc priest just liked to thrown himself in front of icehowl |
| 18:28.42 | NivFreak | but that was less fun |
| 18:31.03 | TNSe | I still don't get how our locks get hit by icehowl :( |
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| 18:31.31 | arkanes_ | "lag |
| 18:31.48 | arkanes_ | or as I like to call it, "not paying any damn attention" |
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| 18:32.14 | TNSe | O_o |
| 18:32.16 | TNSe | they got teleport |
| 18:32.17 | TNSe | ffs :P |
| 18:32.29 | yoshimo | i call this brainlag^^ |
| 18:32.46 | arkanes_ | paying attention to things is hard |
| 18:33.13 | arkanes_ | I mean, you have all these buttons to press, and spells to cast, and you gotta be watching TV |
| 18:33.20 | TNSe | mmm |
| 18:33.25 | TNSe | or quake live 1v1 tournament |
| 18:33.28 | arkanes_ | and talking in your DPS channel about how much you suck |
| 18:33.30 | yoshimo | listening to music as well ;) |
| 18:33.34 | arkanes_ | and peggle, of course |
| 18:33.44 | yoshimo | we prefer bejeweled hre ;) |
| 18:34.01 | arkanes_ | I've watched a lock get hit because he was typing in a private chat channel he didn't know I was in |
| 18:34.07 | arkanes_ | lag |
| 18:34.08 | TNSe | have anyone made BeWoWeled yet? :P |
| 18:34.13 | arkanes_ | he says in raid chat afterward |
| 18:34.20 | TNSe | heh |
| 18:34.21 | arkanes_ | TNSe: oh sure, it was one of the first addons |
| 18:34.31 | TNSe | heh |
| 18:34.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7082 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): deDE stuff. |
| 18:34.55 | TNSe | how do you do addons when your wow uses 5 minutes to load |
| 18:35.21 | TNSe | hasn't been this bad development environment since punchcards |
| 18:36.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7083 Citadel/Locales (3 files in 1 directory): Citadel/Locales: locale fix |
| 18:36.19 | arkanes_ | mine doesn't |
| 18:36.51 | arkanes_ | also reloading is faster, disembedding can speed things up, and for when its really important I have a "dev toon" that I just turn on the addon I'm working on |
| 18:37.39 | TNSe | heh |
| 18:37.56 | TNSe | I shouldn't complain |
| 18:38.03 | TNSe | I guess the mars rover guys have it worse |
| 18:38.34 | mitchnull | ok, I'm almost sure it's MiniMapster |
| 18:38.41 | mitchnull | causing the wow crash, that is |
| 18:38.52 | mitchnull | @project minimapster |
| 18:38.53 | Repo | mitchnull: http://www.wowace.com/addons/minimapster/. MiniMapster. Game: WoW. Ammo (Manager/Author). Updated: 42 days ago |
| 18:39.11 | mitchnull | ammo: you around? |
| 18:40.18 | Stanzilla | because of the mask file you mean? |
| 18:40.43 | mitchnull | stanzilla: asking me? |
| 18:40.48 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:40.56 | mitchnull | well, I don't know what causes it |
| 18:41.14 | mitchnull | but it seems if I have minimapster enabled, wow crashes 80% of the time on /rl |
| 18:41.33 | nevcairiel | I use minimapster and i don't crash :D |
| 18:41.39 | Stanzilla | chinchilla had a problem with a mask file and minimapster uses the same i think |
| 18:42.36 | Repo | 10epgpreserves: 03felsir * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): 1st version |
| 18:42.50 | mitchnull | nev: on /reload + alt-tab ? |
| 18:43.19 | mitchnull | it crashes here in at most 4 iterations of that :) |
| 18:44.27 | NivFreak | win7/ |
| 18:44.29 | mitchnull | could be a video driver issue though |
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| 18:44.40 | NivFreak | win7/ |
| 18:44.45 | NivFreak | ok, my shift keys are broken.... |
| 18:44.54 | NivFreak | all my modifiers in fact |
| 18:44.55 | NivFreak | winm |
| 18:45.17 | Myrroddin | anyway, i'm off. need smokes, food, drink, money, hookers n blow.... later! |
| 18:47.05 | NivFreak | god damn vmware |
| 18:47.13 | NivFreak | mitchnull: on win7? |
| 18:48.18 | Pneumatus | Ismo's Item - Icecrown Reputation Ring Healer Effect fades from Ismo. |
| 18:48.22 | Pneumatus | worst buffname ever :< |
| 18:48.37 | yoshimo | there are more of those effects ;) |
| 18:50.14 | mitchnull | niv: xp |
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| 18:54.38 | NeoTron | mitchnull: upgrade to Win 7! |
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| 18:57.43 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Asmo's Item would've been nicer :P |
| 18:59.49 | winkiller | anyone tried TS3 yet? linux server/win client - better? worse? |
| 19:00.15 | arkanes_ | winkiller: much better than TS2 |
| 19:00.32 | winkiller | k *downloads* |
| 19:00.35 | arkanes_ | winkiller: more featureful than vent, and easier to use, but I didn't get a good test of the sound quality in |
| 19:00.37 | winkiller | less horrible admin interface? |
| 19:00.55 | arkanes_ | I never admined 2 |
| 19:00.56 | winkiller | actually sound quality is what counts :P |
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| 19:03.22 | winkiller | god, so fail |
| 19:03.27 | winkiller | can't download via wget |
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| 19:07.48 | yoshimo | arkanes, you configure it as admin from within the client i think. |
| 19:08.00 | asmodai | 3 is much nicer to admin |
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| 19:08.34 | yoshimo | yes, but most people complain about the securitysettings which are a lot more complex :P |
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| 19:09.23 | yoshimo | *permissions, to be more exact |
| 19:14.00 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r70 DungeonMate.lua: Disable harvest during raid |
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| 19:17.49 | yoshimo | whats wrong with wget winkiller? |
| 19:24.59 | profalbert | god damn langs in ICC again... |
| 19:25.05 | profalbert | s/langs/lags/ |
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| 19:46.54 | yoshimo | does anyone have that picture of a monitor with a lot of notes on small pieces of papers for the warrior? "negative charge left, positive right, beware of circles on the ground" and so on? |
| 19:46.56 | steev | i prefer the first line |
| 19:48.04 | Aeyan | yoshimo: http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Trout-notes.jpg |
| 19:51.43 | yoshimo | exactly that i was looking for ;) |
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| 20:09.28 | winkiller | yoshimo: can't d/l ts3 with it |
| 20:09.52 | winkiller | awesome pic |
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| 20:10.56 | yoshimo | they have an ftp mirror from 4players i think. it should work |
| 20:11.05 | winkiller | 50x |
| 20:11.07 | winkiller | all the time |
| 20:11.13 | winkiller | works with FF |
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| 20:17.57 | yoshimo | if your addon depends on tomtom and wont work without it, are you allowed to put that addon into your own and ship it? |
| 20:18.54 | durcyn | depends on the tomtom license, yoshimo |
| 20:19.11 | Nechckn | jnwhiteh if, around, would be the person to ask, yoshimo |
| 20:19.58 | jnwhiteh | you'd have to technically ask me |
| 20:20.03 | jnwhiteh | so ask me =) |
| 20:20.12 | jnwhiteh | then again everyone who puts TomTom into a compilation should have asked me as well =( |
| 20:20.14 | Nechckn | ding! |
| 20:20.23 | Nechckn | lol - true. |
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| 20:26.35 | Repo | 10project-13368: 03crashmstr * r38 ASSinTrade.toc: ASSinTrade: |
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| 20:26.40 | Repo | - Update toc for 3.3 |
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| 20:27.15 | Repo | - Update TOC for 3.3 |
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| 20:30.24 | yoshimo | jnwhiteh, its not my addon, but i thought it would be a nice idea if it did |
| 20:30.46 | ckknight | it could mark TomTom as a required dependency |
| 20:30.52 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: Compilation authors ask authors for permission? |
| 20:30.57 | Shadowed | that's new! |
| 20:30.58 | ckknight | thus making it so that Curse Client would install it |
| 20:31.13 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 20:31.17 | jnwhiteh | yoshimo: yeah, what ckk said =) |
| 20:31.30 | jnwhiteh | but also, I'd prefer they didn't bundle it |
| 20:31.40 | jnwhiteh | then you get an old versino o that addon that overrides the new version some user has |
| 20:31.43 | jnwhiteh | its just not a good system |
| 20:31.52 | yoshimo | required dep is a good solution i will suggest it |
| 20:32.02 | jnwhiteh | don't suggest bundling, please :P |
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| 20:38.26 | NeoTron | Shadowed: Some do at least. I've been asked at least once |
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| 20:41.39 | winkiller | if there was a decent dependency format... |
| 20:41.40 | Shefki | Shadowed: It's amazing what happens when you don't treat everyone else like twits. They don't treat you like a twit back. |
| 20:42.46 | Shadowed | Oh Shefki, it's amusing that you keep trying to take pot shots using false information. Clearly every author is asked for permission from compilation authors, every time. Just like every author thinks their users are brilliant rocket scientists. |
| 20:43.04 | Shefki | I didn't say either of those thhings. |
| 20:43.14 | Shefki | It's amussing that you reply with a straw man every time. |
| 20:43.47 | TNSe | what? |
| 20:43.53 | TNSe | Shadowed, is that sarcasm? |
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| 20:44.43 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth 04v319 beta * r320 : Tagging as v319 beta |
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| 20:46.29 | Pneumatus | the altoholic dev really needs to reqdep all his datastore addons so i can use alphas :< |
| 20:46.44 | Shefki | What I meant and should have been clear to you was that maybe you'd get asked more often about things if you didn't trash everyone else all the time. |
| 20:46.59 | Mikk | Pneumatus: um yes i would assume that those are, in fact, required dependencies |
| 20:47.31 | Pneumatus | Mikk: they are, but he doesnt declare them in pkgmeta so only his self-rolled releases ever work :< |
| 20:47.56 | Mikk | well, i know for a fact that he listens when you talk to him so |
| 20:47.59 | Mikk | my suggestion would be |
| 20:48.01 | Mikk | talk to him =) |
| 20:48.30 | Pneumatus | is he on the forums? |
| 20:48.38 | yoshimo | even on irc iirc |
| 20:48.47 | Mikk | don't know - PM him through wowace/cf |
| 20:48.48 | nevcairiel | @project altoholic |
| 20:48.49 | Mikk | worked for me |
| 20:48.53 | Pneumatus | will do |
| 20:49.05 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/altoholic/. Altoholic. Game: WoW. Thaoky (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 62/126 |
| 20:49.05 | nevcairiel | wtf is the project name |
| 20:49.08 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:49.08 | yoshimo | ~seen thaoky |
| 20:49.14 | purl | thaoky <i=Thaoky@91.182.81.52> was last seen on IRC in channel #arl, 42d 5h 20m 48s ago, saying: 'hi !'. |
| 20:49.16 | nevcairiel | yeah i believe he is here sometimes |
| 20:50.06 | Pneumatus | will pm him anyway, need the linkwrangler fix thats in alphas :) |
| 20:51.38 | pompy | 42 days? Purl is quite off there |
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| 20:52.12 | Mikk | used a different nick perhaps |
| 20:52.25 | pompy | (1/20/2010 4:32:59 PM) Thaoky left the room. |
| 20:52.47 | nevcairiel | maybe purl isnt in there anymore? :D |
| 20:52.50 | Pneumatus | maybe a room purl isnt in |
| 20:53.06 | pompy | hes there right now ;p |
| 20:53.12 | nevcairiel | but i've had a feeling that ~seen is randomly breaking |
| 20:53.15 | asmodai | sb|work: got an answer |
| 20:53.18 | asmodai | sb|work: Your subscription will start with the Winter 2009 issue. Please let us |
| 20:53.18 | asmodai | know if you have not received the issue by January 31, 2010. |
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| 21:02.29 | Fisker | awho made the blood prince module? :o |
| 21:03.24 | Shadowed | I'd assume Funkeh` |
| 21:03.59 | sb|work | asmodai: meh... thats another 10 days! |
| 21:04.30 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Damage downranking is completely random, checked all warlock spells. Makes like 0 sense ;) |
| 21:04.34 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:04.39 | Shadowed | Damage spells are so wonky in general |
| 21:04.49 | Gagorian | Well I got all of them correct now |
| 21:04.56 | Gagorian | But even ranks within spells are exceptions |
| 21:05.08 | Gagorian | Some rank just downranks differently for shits and giggles |
| 21:05.09 | Shadowed | Are they perhaps spells that go 10-20 levels without an upgrade? |
| 21:05.29 | Funkeh` | Fisker, yes? |
| 21:05.57 | Ingela | willa wonky! |
| 21:06.17 | haste | Funkeh`: people say it's bugged! |
| 21:06.30 | asmodai | hey, that's cool, change realm seems to work again |
| 21:06.40 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 21:06.46 | Funkeh` | thanks for the helful description |
| 21:06.53 | haste | I don't use BW! |
| 21:06.56 | haste | or any other boss mod |
| 21:07.03 | haste | so can't help you much more than that >:3 |
| 21:07.07 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Those spells are usually random, but so are others too :p |
| 21:07.14 | Gagorian | Shadowed: http://paste.wowace.com/1655/ if you're interested |
| 21:07.45 | Gagorian | priority is the rank table Downrank = x > "0" table Downrank = x > Downrank = 4 |
| 21:07.50 | Shadowed | Downrank = # level difference before downranking factors in? |
| 21:07.56 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 21:08.02 | Shadowed | weird |
| 21:08.06 | Gagorian | it's the "max level" GC referred to |
| 21:08.27 | Gagorian | Like for example searing pain |
| 21:08.40 | Gagorian | All other ranks are 6 except rank 7 is 4 |
| 21:13.37 | asmodai | sb|work: Well, at least I got an answer :) |
| 21:28.51 | Kaelten | how are things going guys? |
| 21:29.19 | Nechckn | He speaketh! |
| 21:30.38 | sb|work | hmmm blood council is nice :p |
| 21:30.45 | sb|work | i like that fight |
| 21:35.34 | Pneumatus | sb|work: i got ranked on my 10man last night! |
| 21:37.27 | Pneumatus | blood council 25 seems undertuned though :< |
| 21:37.32 | NivFreak | holy shit it is |
| 21:37.50 | NivFreak | we fumbled through it on our 2nd attempt with a lot of failure |
| 21:38.02 | NivFreak | first pull wasn't a full 25 |
| 21:38.10 | Pneumatus | on 10man it took us like 10 wipes on council and 3 on blood queen |
| 21:38.20 | Pneumatus | im hoping blood queen is gonna be a bit more challenging |
| 21:38.40 | NivFreak | it sounds like 10man: Blood princes were hitting nearly as hard as 25man, and the dps check was higher |
| 21:38.44 | NivFreak | and BQL was undertuned |
| 21:38.47 | NivFreak | and the opposite on 25man |
| 21:39.02 | Pneumatus | we only used 1 tank on princes 10man |
| 21:39.08 | Pneumatus | so i wouldnt say they were hitting too hard :o |
| 21:39.16 | NivFreak | they hit pretty hard |
| 21:39.20 | NivFreak | but an important lesson is |
| 21:39.25 | NivFreak | it's often easier to heal 1 target |
| 21:39.37 | Pneumatus | yeh, we ended up 1 tank 2 healers |
| 21:39.38 | NivFreak | the kentic boss was meleeing me for about 17k |
| 21:39.42 | Pneumatus | well, and a lock tanking the shadow boss |
| 21:39.44 | NivFreak | and I'm a prot warrior w/ 34k armor |
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| 21:39.54 | NivFreak | (in 10man) |
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| 21:49.30 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.6.1-2-ge0ef5b1 modules/users.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 21:49.32 | Repo | e0ef5b1: Fixed notes not being cleared correctly when deleting them, the frame will now hide too |
| 21:49.33 | Repo | f98bf20: Redid database browser updating, it will now rebuild the list when a new user is added or when the database browser is first shown, if the database browser is not expanded it won't update until it's shown. Will fix lag issues with /eg when you have a large database |
| 21:53.10 | sb|work | Pneumatus: ranked? where? |
| 21:53.35 | Pneumatus | wowprogress, i was #1 discpriest for the BQL fight |
| 21:53.41 | Pneumatus | ive probably lost that spot since though :< |
| 21:54.06 | Pneumatus | er, worldoflogs |
| 21:54.06 | Pneumatus | even |
| 21:54.26 | NivFreak | for dmg? :) |
| 21:54.31 | Pneumatus | healing :P |
| 21:54.41 | NivFreak | disc priests that like healing meters |
| 21:54.43 | NivFreak | that's funn |
| 21:54.44 | NivFreak | y |
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| 21:57.57 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7084 Citadel/BloodCouncil.lua: Fix formating. |
| 22:02.18 | Yivry | isnt disc all about preventing dmg through shields n stuff? |
| 22:02.34 | haste | pretty much |
| 22:04.05 | Yivry | so I was doin it right ok, started to worry :P |
| 22:04.30 | Yivry | disc priest topping healing meters, damn slacker dudes are the other healers :P |
| 22:04.33 | Pneumatus | "OH SHIT MY BARS DIDN'T SWITCH" |
| 22:04.43 | Pneumatus | gotta love fights that change your actionbars |
| 22:04.49 | arkanes | worldoflogs does some guessing about absorbs and counts what it thinks you absorbed as healing |
| 22:05.07 | Pneumatus | if you only have 1 absorb source in a raid its entirely accurate |
| 22:05.17 | arkanes | sure |
| 22:05.24 | arkanes | but how often does that happen |
| 22:05.33 | yoshimo | not very often |
| 22:05.42 | arkanes | anyway, it's Close Enough |
| 22:05.54 | Fisker | oh hay Funkeh` |
| 22:06.14 | arkanes | I'm not trying to diss on your achievement :) |
| 22:07.00 | arkanes | so we have any prot warriors hanging around? I need a reality check on some forum posts |
| 22:07.26 | arkanes | there's a few people claiming that they do ~2k dps on marrowgar and pallies are clocking in at 4500 dps, and thats not fair, holding us back, etc |
| 22:07.30 | Funkeh` | Fisker, yes? |
| 22:07.48 | arkanes | but I clearly remember prot warriors breaking 3k on patchwerk, back when naxx was progression content |
| 22:07.59 | arkanes | so whats up with that |
| 22:09.48 | Fisker | You planning on putting on a range indicator for blood princes on empowered shock vortex? |
| 22:10.14 | arkanes | can you even range the entire thing? |
| 22:10.23 | arkanes | I was > 30 yards out and still got hit for about 5k |
| 22:11.02 | Fisker | I believe it's cast on everyone in melee at start |
| 22:11.09 | Fisker | but the vortexes themselves explode from the player |
| 22:11.12 | Fisker | or something like that |
| 22:11.18 | arkanes | huh |
| 22:11.24 | arkanes | that kinda makes sense |
| 22:11.26 | Funkeh` | Was gonna add it for the entire encounter |
| 22:11.33 | arkanes | I thought they were cast on the melee and then stayed there |
| 22:11.49 | arkanes | I was tanking the fire dude the whole time so didn't really see how the vortex mechanics worked |
| 22:11.53 | Funkeh` | Not sure yet if it's helpful for the entire encounter, only just started them |
| 22:12.01 | Pneumatus | it wouldnt be |
| 22:12.05 | Pneumatus | it would be bloody annoying |
| 22:12.17 | arkanes | you should be spread out for the whole encounter |
| 22:12.22 | arkanes | theres no reason to clump up ever |
| 22:12.32 | Fisker | true |
| 22:12.32 | arkanes | and several reasons to stay spread out |
| 22:12.47 | Fisker | But it's only with the vortexes where you should have a specific range between each other |
| 22:12.56 | arkanes | the fire dudes sparkle thingies, accidentally grabbing shadows, flame orbs |
| 22:13.12 | Fisker | oh yeah the fire orbs are a good point too |
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| 22:13.53 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Heals aren't constant either |
| 22:14.02 | Shadowed | How inconsistent? |
| 22:14.07 | Fisker | But other than that |
| 22:14.11 | Fisker | seen how easy they are? |
| 22:14.15 | Fisker | i |
| 22:14.18 | Fisker | it's almost funny |
| 22:14.42 | Fisker | For some reason we couldn't make it to the flame orb guy before he used empowered flame orb |
| 22:14.44 | arkanes | reports suggest that it's tuned much lighter on 25 than on 10 |
| 22:14.45 | Fisker | nearly killed half the raid |
| 22:14.50 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Haven't tried much yet, rejuvenation is mostly 5 but one rank is 4.. Regrowth is completely fucked since the HoT and the DH get different penalties :D |
| 22:14.58 | Shadowed | lovely |
| 22:14.59 | Shadowed | :< |
| 22:15.00 | arkanes | Fisker: you want to be far away from the flame orb |
| 22:15.04 | Fisker | and then they took the remaining 15% or so 10 man left |
| 22:15.11 | Fisker | not empowered arkanes |
| 22:15.14 | arkanes | yes |
| 22:15.18 | Fisker | you have to discharge it and then stay away |
| 22:15.23 | Shadowed | I'll have to double check, I don't remember downranking issues at 80 thought, but I was using level 1-40 spells at 80 so that might be why |
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| 22:15.25 | Fisker | We didn't have anyone to discharge it |
| 22:15.27 | arkanes | right, you want to roll it over some people |
| 22:15.30 | Fisker | and half the raid got caught in it |
| 22:15.33 | arkanes | target just needs to run in a circle |
| 22:15.37 | Fisker | which was funny as hell |
| 22:15.59 | arkanes | the only thing that gave us any real trouble in 10 was our lock tank getting f'ed |
| 22:16.07 | arkanes | but that gave us a whole ton of trouble |
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| 22:16.34 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Lifebloom is +7 |
| 22:16.50 | Gagorian | Low level spells work great as the coefficient is 0 ;) |
| 22:16.58 | Gagorian | No matter how you work it |
| 22:17.11 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 22:17.15 | Fisker | ME2 |
| 22:17.24 | arkanes | Gagorian: more than > 4 ranks downranked gives 0 coefficient, if I remember correctly |
| 22:17.40 | arkanes | or something like that |
| 22:19.27 | Gagorian | arkanes: Well usually something like that yes, but it doesn't work to the accuracy needed :p |
| 22:20.55 | arkanes | I remember there was a blue post that spelled all this out a while back |
| 22:21.16 | Arrowmaster | are you guys still talking about this |
| 22:21.50 | WobWork | Gagorian: What's this about downranked spells? |
| 22:22.23 | arkanes | like the amount of downrank is based on the level difference between the level you can learn your current max rank at, and the level you learn the rank you're using |
| 22:22.29 | arkanes | and then there's a hard cutoff where it drops to 0 |
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| 22:25.42 | Gagorian | WobWork: Just researching how it works, and that it's as random as I expected ;) |
| 22:26.00 | Gagorian | Not that downranking makes any difference really, since it's useless |
| 22:27.15 | Gagorian | Shadowed: I was probably wrong about Regrowth.. Seems like Blizzard has gone and changed all the base heal/damage increases |
| 22:27.20 | Gagorian | I had to redo all on warlock already |
| 22:27.31 | Gagorian | That would explain the error.. |
| 22:27.43 | Shadowed | :P |
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| 22:28.45 | Yivry | argh! |
| 22:28.51 | Yivry | stupid server settings |
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| 22:29.06 | Yivry | I dc, and before I can ghost, change nick, identify |
| 22:29.30 | Yivry | some setting changes, I cant talk anymore and so I cant change nick >.< |
| 22:29.52 | Yivry | have to restart client to get back |
| 22:32.23 | Funkeh` | haste, the mod works fine, tell them to update |
| 22:36.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7085 Citadel/Lanathel.lua: Add fns for shadow thingy. |
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| 22:51.05 | Ingela | sb|work, beat this, i had 20500hps at one point on deathwhisper lol |
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| 22:52.47 | NeoTron | can't wait for the HPS contests on the green dragon encounter |
| 22:52.54 | NeoTron | "can someone link the hps meters plz" |
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| 22:53.16 | Ingela | NeoTron, hah ye |
| 22:53.31 | Ingela | will be so shit for me, absorbs probably doesn't count |
| 22:53.43 | arkanes | didn't on the PTR |
| 22:53.49 | arkanes | but holy priests are rocking on it |
| 22:54.00 | arkanes | holy nova is great for popping the clouds |
| 22:54.13 | Ingela | :O |
| 22:54.23 | NeoTron | Ingela: which means you likely would be healing the dps/tanks which still have jobs to do |
| 22:54.43 | Ingela | have no info about the fight, but yeah, there's more then just healing the dragon i bet |
| 22:54.51 | NeoTron | there are adds |
| 22:54.53 | Ingela | but healing the dragon is the fun part i bet |
| 22:55.00 | arkanes | there are add waves trying to kill her |
| 22:55.02 | NeoTron | I believe you need to stop them from hurting the dragon on the outside |
| 22:55.14 | arkanes | so the tanks & dps will be handling those, and the adds have AOE damage that needs to be dealt with |
| 22:55.18 | arkanes | as disc you'll be on that |
| 22:55.32 | Ingela | awesome |
| 22:55.45 | arkanes | dragon healers enter portals, then have to fly around popping clouds for stacking + healing/mana regen buff |
| 22:55.54 | NeoTron | when we did the three prince encounter yesterday I was thinking how complex the encounter really is |
| 22:55.55 | arkanes | then the portal back out and start dropping the heal bombs |
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| 23:14.34 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Well I've got some more data if you want to use it |
| 23:14.40 | Shadowed | Sure |
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| 23:18.56 | Gagorian | Healing Touch: +5, Rejuvenation: +5 (r7 +4), Regrowth: +5, Tranquility: +6 (only tested one rank (3?), cba with cooldown), Lifebloom: +7 (works with r1 hot, but not DH), Wild Growth: r1 +9 rest: +4 |
| 23:19.23 | Gagorian | That lifebloom part is still a mystery, but seems like the penalty is different |
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| 23:19.29 | Gagorian | on the hot and dh part |
| 23:21.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7086 Citadel/BloodCouncil.lua: |
| 23:21.21 | Repo | Citadel/BloodCouncil: Show 15yard proximity for the duration of the shock cast only. |
| 23:25.13 | Shadowed | weird |
| 23:25.24 | Shadowed | stupid downranking penalties |
| 23:25.57 | Gagorian | Indeed... |
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| 23:31.21 | Groktar | wow |
| 23:31.28 | Groktar | that registered nick thing was annoying |
| 23:31.43 | Groktar | it wouldn't even let me switch to my nick to identify |
| 23:31.44 | Groktar | :( |
| 23:31.49 | *** mode/#wowace [-R] by vhaarr |
| 23:34.03 | koaschten_ | why dont you simply identify using the nick and password? you dont have to have the nick to auth |
| 23:34.33 | Groktar | this server does that? |
| 23:34.36 | koaschten_ | ./msg nickserv <nick you registered with> <password> |
| 23:34.43 | koaschten_ | sure |
| 23:34.47 | Groktar | i've been on some that do and most don't seem to |
| 23:35.39 | koaschten_ | NeoTron princes isnt complex, its "dont stand in shit or die" |
| 23:35.48 | koaschten_ | come one 20m hp is laughable |
| 23:36.03 | koaschten_ | chaos is what is 25man bloodqueen lanathel |
| 23:37.27 | NeoTron | koaschten_: I didn't say it was hard. I just said it's complex |
| 23:37.33 | NeoTron | lots of stuff to keep track off |
| 23:37.44 | NeoTron | compare it to say Molten Core encounters |
| 23:37.44 | arkanes | princes is a lot more complex than "don't stnad in shit or die" |
| 23:37.50 | arkanes | maybe if you're, say, melee dps |
| 23:37.54 | Groktar | people undercutting my glyphs make me :( |
| 23:38.00 | NeoTron | arkanes: maybe koaschten_ didn't have to deal with anything but dpsing :P |
| 23:38.03 | arkanes | but if you're a healer or a tank or ranged DPS there's a lot more to it than that |
| 23:38.09 | Groktar | convinces horde friends to kill the sw auctioneers |
| 23:38.21 | NeoTron | getting the balls of fire floating was a brand new mechanic |
| 23:38.30 | arkanes | yeah I thought that was pretty cool |
| 23:38.44 | NeoTron | pets make it somewhat cheesy |
| 23:39.01 | arkanes | it seems that dots bounce it on live |
| 23:39.04 | arkanes | they didn't in the PTR |
| 23:39.25 | koaschten_ | you designate players to take care of kinetic bombs (or pets if you like) |
| 23:39.34 | Groktar | imps only? |
| 23:39.37 | koaschten_ | if a big firey ball comes at you, run away |
| 23:39.41 | Groktar | or can they melee them? |
| 23:39.48 | koaschten_ | melee works too |
| 23:39.51 | Groktar | the big fiery ball is more complicated than run away |
| 23:40.02 | NeoTron | Groktar: more like anything but imps |
| 23:40.07 | Groktar | lol |
| 23:40.07 | koaschten_ | aktually no? it discharges by passing players |
| 23:40.11 | Groktar | ^ |
| 23:40.23 | arkanes | and hey wow, thats more complicateed than "run away" |
| 23:40.24 | Groktar | we had a mage that kept blinking to the back |
| 23:40.26 | koaschten_ | and if you tank caster mob on one side, if you run to the other side it will discharge before it reaches you |
| 23:40.32 | NeoTron | apparently imps makes the balls go through the roof, and then imp then teleports to the ball and aggros Lanathel |
| 23:40.37 | Groktar | and the ball kept one shotting im |
| 23:40.40 | Groktar | :p |
| 23:40.41 | arkanes | ... if you run it through some players |
| 23:40.45 | arkanes | thats one of the things thats easier on 25 |
| 23:41.07 | arkanes | just because even if you totally screw it up, there's so many people around that you're likely to discharge it just by accident |
| 23:41.26 | NeoTron | my imp kept dieing on the gunship battle. I figured out that he got meleed to death by the enemy leader |
| 23:41.36 | NeoTron | apparently he teleported across within melee range |
| 23:43.10 | Fisker | kisses Groktar in the butt |
| 23:44.07 | Groktar | neglects to warn Fisker of his explosive diarrhea |
| 23:44.33 | Fisker | doesn't care |
| 23:47.33 | Groktar | offers Fisker some stew |
| 23:48.40 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1206 / (7 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 23:48.42 | Repo | - Added back downranking effects estimates (inaccurate at the moment) and added a tooltip hint for spells that suffer from downranking effects |
| 23:48.43 | Repo | - Added Deep Freeze |
| 23:48.44 | Repo | - Corrected base damage/heal increases for druids and warlocks |
| 23:48.45 | Repo | - Added option to disable tooltip hints |
| 23:48.47 | NeoTron | this is a rather disturbing picture |
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| 23:57.20 | BWMerlin | Kaelten: around? |
| 23:57.41 | BWMerlin | or anyone else from the curse team? |
| 23:59.58 | yoshimo | DropTheCheapestThing Error: Can't sell items while not at a merchant. Aborting. this message appears at a vendor, how can that happen? |
