IRC log for #wowace on 20100115

`00:01.03`	`haste`	`your also bailing out of the elements forced update that way tho'`
`00:01.16`	`haste`	`and if it happens to loop twice it's because the state changed between the calls tho'`
`00:02.05`	`Shadowed`	`Kuosi: it's a logic typo`
`00:02.08`	`Shadowed`	`it'll be fixed in a minute`
`00:02.26`	`koaschten_`	`uhm ok, thats new to me`
`00:02.34`	`koaschten_`	`how do i get rid of this stupid tutorial thing?`
`00:02.39`	`haste`	`I'll write a fix to avoid it all regardless tho'`
`00:02.40`	`Kuosi`	`ah ok`
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`00:06.18`	`Repo`	`10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.6-23-g49a76b1 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits]`
`00:06.21`	`Repo`	`49a76b1: Merge branch 'master' of git.wowace.com:wow/shadowed-unit-frames/mainline`
`00:06.22`	`Repo`	`6346e54: Removed duplicate function call`
`00:06.22`	`Repo`	`d2f7daf: Updated localization scraper`
`00:06.23`	`Repo`	`3a0b552: Fixed sorting for party not showing when advanced options were enabled`
`00:06.23`	`Yin`	`Heey, uhm, does anyone here understand how the Grid2 layout system works? For the life of me I can't figure out how to get it to list tanks and assists before going alphabetical. Even 'By Role' doesn't do it for some reason`
`00:07.35`	`Kuosi`	`ah nice`
`00:07.37`	`Kuosi`	`updating`
`00:09.43`	`chiper`	`heh, last time I tried grid2 I couldn't even figure out how to get into the settings`
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`00:12.02`	`Yin`	`Oh, it's not going alphabetical at all..`
`00:12.28`	`pakoz`	`Anyone 'know how/is it possible' to play the WoW splash screen without the account/password box showing? My goal is to only display the rendered video (looping).`
`00:13.17`	`chiper`	`hey, that reminds me. has anyone else noticed their video card working WAY harder on the login screen then ingame?`
`00:13.41`	`chiper`	`if I leave my computer sitting at the login screen for more than a minute, the GPU fan cranks way up like the card is getting especially hot`
`00:14.16`	`Kuosi`	`same here`
`00:14.20`	`Kuosi`	`the login screen is a killer.`
`00:14.55`	`chiper`	`pak: did you try alt-z?`
`00:15.00`	`chiper`	`(just guessing)`
`00:15.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`pakoz: extract and modify GlueXML? :>`
`00:17.29`	`Trela`	`@project TourGuide`
`00:17.30`	`Repo`	`Trela: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tourguide/. TourGuide. Game: WoW. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Updated: 114 days ago`
`00:17.57`	`pakoz`	`I did actually chiper, no dice.`
`00:18.39`	`pakoz`	`Gnarfoz, extract it from what ;p?`
`00:19.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`pakoz: the MPQs`
`00:19.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`not sure if wow still reads GlueXML from disk instead of from MPQs if it's present in \Interface\GlueXML\`
`00:20.55`	`Yin`	`So correct me if I'm wrong but Grid2's sorting is still broken and you can only sort by class right now`
`00:25.00`	`Yin`	`has been fruitlessly trying to get tanks and assist to appear at the front of each group to no avail. x.x`
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`00:31.20`	`Repo`	`10charscanner: 03kunda * r31 / (10 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line)`
`00:31.21`	`Repo`	`added: Achievement Detail (incl. Description Info) to Statistic/Achievement overview`
`00:31.22`	`Repo`	`added: Minimap Button (OFF by DEFAULT -> check options)`
`00:31.23`	`Repo`	`changed: '/scan' is now doing a SINGLESCAN if there is a scannable target instead of just showing the basic GUI Buttons`
`00:31.24`	`Repo`	`changed: if doing a GROUPSCAN the Compare Tool is now shown by default instead of the SINGLESCAN overview`
`00:31.50`	`pompy`	`hm would Recount cause memory errors at login crashing wow? The SV file is 1.83MB`
`00:32.42`	`orionshock-`	`It can`
`00:33.00`	`orionshock-`	`Prolly wont`
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`00:33.34`	`orionshock-`	`Most of the time it's bad mpq's`
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`00:34.21`	`pompy`	`orionshock-: well it kept crashing on login, then i c/p out the SVs on that character, and logged in with no SVs and it logegd me in fine`
`00:35.00`	`pompy`	`the crash dumps are shit, they dont tell me anything`
`00:35.13`	`orionshock-`	`Bad file... not like u can't rebuild it`
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`00:38.03`	`sylvanaar`	`did then enable links in private channels or something?`
`00:38.55`	`Kuosi`	`they did`
`00:38.56`	`Bruners`	`yes`
`00:38.59`	`sylvanaar`	`steev hm?`
`00:39.02`	`Bruners`	`two patches ago`
`00:39.09`	`sylvanaar`	`i dont play that much`
`00:39.56`	`sylvanaar`	`you mean they did it in 3.2?`
`00:40.02`	`Bruners`	`think so`
`00:40.31`	`Bruners`	`what is the command to talk to the lua bot?`
`00:41.19`	`durcyn`	`lua> print("Bruners smells of elderberries")`
`00:41.20`	`lua_bot`	`durcyn: Bruners smells of elderberries`
`00:43.51`	`Stanzilla`	`sylvanaar: i even told you about that :P`
`00:44.18`	`Yin`	`Is there anyone here who is really into Grid2? All I'm trying to do is figure out how to make a layout where Main tanks and Main Assists are put at the front of the group`
`00:44.49`	`Yin`	`And it's not being very cooperative`
`00:45.03`	`sylvanaar`	`Stanzilla you did?`
`00:47.03`	`sylvanaar`	`oh yeah i guess you did`
`00:47.08`	`Stanzilla`	`yeah :p`
`00:47.12`	`sylvanaar`	`right before the holidays`
`00:53.04`	`Repo`	`10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r400 modules (2 files in 1 directory): delete the chatlink module`
`00:53.36`	`Stanzilla`	`I heard read only is better than delete :p`
`00:54.07`	`sylvanaar`	`hm?`
`00:54.49`	`sylvanaar`	`i have been wanting to get rid of that module for years`
`00:58.23`	`Axodious`	`aw`
`00:58.34`	`Axodious`	`the new armory won't generate the dynamic rss feed thing for 35 ppl`
`00:58.34`	`Axodious`	`:(`
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`01:00.54`	`CrazyBenny`	`theres 5 person limit, isnt it`
`01:01.11`	`Axodious`	`yea`
`01:01.21`	`Axodious`	`dunno why they would limit it to 5 tbh`
`01:01.42`	`Axodious`	`should be less load on their server to let ppl call like 50 rather than several calls one after another`
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`01:05.47`	`Yivry`	`Ghah why did the LFD system need to be x-realm... such idiots...`
`01:07.02`	`chiper`	`you think there's no idiots on your own realm?`
`01:07.13`	`chiper`	`boy, that must be nice`
`01:07.56`	`Repo`	`10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.3.2 * r401 : Tagging as 3.3.2`
`01:12.09`	`Yivry`	`i know there's idiots on my realm too, but you cant do anything about those in LFD`
`01:12.36`	`Yivry`	`one wipe and all of them leave... bastards`
`01:13.08`	`SunTsu`	`Yivry: ignore them, lfd won't put you into a group with people on your ignore list`
`01:13.22`	`NivFreak`	`my ignore list is full`
`01:13.26`	`NivFreak`	`they fucked that up good`
`01:13.33`	`Yivry`	`nice to know, thanks SunTsu`
`01:13.38`	`NivFreak`	`I should be allowed to ignore hundreds of people`
`01:13.44`	`SunTsu`	`I still wish there was a) guild ignore b) account ignore`
`01:13.55`	`Yivry`	`lol!`
`01:13.57`	`NivFreak`	`there is a guild ignore addon`
`01:14.01`	`NivFreak`	`but it won't stop LFD stuff`
`01:14.09`	`NivFreak`	`since it's a chat time filter`
`01:15.34`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: yeah, I wanted the real dean`
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`01:17.09`	`SunTsu`	`I wish that "hip hop" guild didn't kill itself, seeing someone of that guild always screamed "beware, dumb fuck" - but it didn't last long, because putting hordes of no-wits into a guild with egos like titans, well..`
`01:19.29`	`*** join/#wowace kandarz (n=kandarz@c-98-247-178-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`01:19.51`	`SunTsu`	`Now there is no warning sign to them anymore`
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`01:39.57`	`Axodious`	`how would i go about figuring out which addon i'm using is chewing the most cpu usage ?`
`01:40.13`	`Axodious`	`think something mightb e killing my FPS`
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`01:42.04`	`SunTsu`	`Axodious: use an performance monitor`
`01:42.17`	`Axodious`	`im using brokercpu but i don't quite understand it`
`01:42.34`	`Axodious`	`the cpu profiling that is`
`01:42.49`	`SunTsu`	`Axodious: you can turn on profiling for some time and see what it brings. But beware, that will chew up lots of cpu more`
`01:43.41`	`SunTsu`	`Axodious: what's not to understand?`
`01:43.52`	`Axodious`	`well, where do i view the info? saved vars?`
`01:44.04`	`Axodious`	`all i get when i enable is is a #s attatched to broker`
`01:45.52`	`SunTsu`	`Axodious: it should look like this: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw23953.jpg`
`01:46.15`	`SunTsu`	`/cpu, /brokercpu or /broker_cpu to show usage`
`01:46.48`	`SunTsu`	`for a view like that you need to install LibQTip - all information taken from http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12461-Broker_CPUMemoryPerformance.html`
`01:47.21`	`Axodious`	`thx`
`01:47.49`	`Ingelagr`	`someone make me a XP per hour addon but everything replaced with rep, and i will be one happy guy`
`01:47.58`	`Ingelagr`	`and you all want that don't you`
`01:49.02`	`SunTsu`	`Ingelagr: I need that badly - not`
`01:49.17`	`Ingelagr`	`i mean it's awesome`
`01:49.28`	`Ingelagr`	`why wouldn't you want that =(`
`01:50.27`	`SunTsu`	`Mostly because I don't care about rep`
`01:51.06`	`quiesense`	`o.o`
`01:51.07`	`SunTsu`	`championing gets me to exalted incredibly fast where it matters`
`01:51.47`	`Ingelagr`	`do i smell some casual tendencies`
`01:52.40`	`Ingelagr`	`yeah but if you're farming for some rep, you wanna see the rep/hour you do`
`01:52.44`	`Ingelagr`	`and see how long it takes!`
`01:52.52`	`SunTsu`	`Ingelagr: but I don't farm rep`
`01:53.01`	`Ingelagr`	`casual!`
`01:53.07`	`SunTsu`	`yeah`
`01:53.27`	`Ingelagr`	`i've been slacking with rep lately`
`01:53.36`	`Ingelagr`	`or yeah always, only 29 exalted`
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`01:56.34`	`SunTsu`	`I don't know how many factions I am exalted with, because it's spread over too many toons`
`01:59.56`	`Axodious`	`ok so`
`02:00.10`	`Axodious`	`is there a replacement for power auras ? >_>`
`02:01.06`	`SunTsu`	`Why would you need one?`
`02:01.26`	`Axodious`	`power auras is amazing for debuffs/buffs etc`
`02:01.31`	`Axodious`	`it's a required mod in my guild atm`
`02:01.52`	`Axodious`	`we put things like natures fury, mutated infection on it`
`02:01.55`	`SunTsu`	`and that's the reason you don't want it? ;)`
`02:02.08`	`Axodious`	`i don't want it because it's what's killing my fps`
`02:02.28`	`Axodious`	`like, it's 2x beta`
`02:02.30`	`Axodious`	`better`
`02:02.49`	`Axodious`	`with PA disabled`
`02:03.02`	`koaschten`	`Did actually somebody ever make a mod like aloft? are there "better" alternatives out there?`
`02:03.13`	`Axodious`	`tidyplates`
`02:03.50`	`SunTsu`	`OK, so I bury the idea to install PA because my CPU already is used to the max`
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`02:04.31`	`Axodious`	`im using 2x 4870 and a i7 860`
`02:04.39`	`Axodious`	`and today im finally like`
`02:04.41`	`Axodious`	`this isn't right`
`02:04.41`	`SunTsu`	`Maybe with my new one - if that ever will make it's way into mail`
`02:07.48`	`SunTsu`	`Axodious: yeah, sounds strange`
`02:09.31`	`SunTsu`	`my frame rate is down since 3.0, can't find a way to make that better, but it's only an AMD64 X2 4200+ and a NVidia 8600 GTS`
`02:10.08`	`SunTsu`	`(which allows me to play an fps at 100 frames per second, but WoW is down to 12 dps...)`
`02:10.53`	`SunTsu`	`fps even`
`02:11.00`	`NivFreak`	`koaschten: I use tidyplates/threatplates and it's great`
`02:11.06`	`quiesense`	`it's almost always cpu and memory`
`02:11.10`	`quiesense`	`for wow`
`02:12.11`	`SunTsu`	`yeah, ordered an amd 965 4 core last week and 4 GB DDR2`
`02:12.22`	`NivFreak`	`amd ewww`
`02:12.24`	`NivFreak`	`;)`
`02:12.37`	`NivFreak`	`just make sure you get your affinity figured out`
`02:12.57`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: why?`
`02:13.13`	`NivFreak`	`so that it uses all your cores? :P`
`02:13.30`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: it won't, because wine is in the way`
`02:13.32`	`durcyn`	`because you don't want threads running on HT/SMT virtual processors instead of individual cores`
`02:13.33`	`NivFreak`	`amd doesn't do virtual cores do they?`
`02:13.38`	`NivFreak`	`SunTsu: ah`
`02:13.51`	`durcyn`	`people still use AMD chips? buh.`
`02:13.52`	`NivFreak`	`well`
`02:13.54`	`NivFreak`	`step 1 to performance`
`02:13.57`	`NivFreak`	`ditch wine ;)`
`02:14.23`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: then, how do I play WoW on FreeBSD without it? ;)`
`02:14.33`	`NivFreak`	`good god man`
`02:14.49`	`NivFreak`	`I gave up trying to game in linux years ago, and you're enough of a masocist to do it in BSD?`
`02:14.52`	`NivFreak`	`do you not use vent?`
`02:15.04`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: nope`
`02:15.09`	`quiesense`	`its funny having bigger issues with vent than with the game itself`
`02:15.10`	`NivFreak`	`so no raiding then`
`02:15.20`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: TS2 and mumble`
`02:15.33`	`NivFreak`	`well`
`02:15.42`	`SunTsu`	`but, no raiding anyway, because my guild is dead`
`02:15.45`	`NivFreak`	`I always had subpar performance from wow under wine`
`02:15.56`	`NivFreak`	`not to mention stability issues`
`02:16.03`	`NivFreak`	`and the lack of vent/curse client`
`02:16.06`	`NivFreak`	`but good luck :)`
`02:16.07`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: it was all great, only 10 fps under windows until 3.0 hit`
`02:16.20`	`durcyn`	`wine does quite well with certain X drivers`
`02:16.24`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: No stability issues and no need for curse client`
`02:16.34`	`durcyn`	`the nvidia binary blobs on linux are actually quite playable`
`02:16.37`	`ulic`	`I use vent in linux, worked mostly ok in Wine, but now I'm using the Mangler vent client, it works well.`
`02:16.38`	`NivFreak`	`I've always rocked nvidia + binary driver`
`02:16.51`	`durcyn`	`notwithstanding that binary blobs are evil to start with`
`02:17.03`	`NivFreak`	`I don't even like vent on my mac`
`02:17.07`	`NivFreak`	`since I can't normalize people`
`02:17.08`	`SunTsu`	`I'm doing that for 3 or 4 years now, always good fps, until the day 3.0 hit`
`02:17.10`	`NivFreak`	`automatically`
`02:17.21`	`durcyn`	`the mac vent client sucks pretty bad, ye`
`02:17.33`	`NivFreak`	`SunTsu: sure, they updated the engine for 3.0 and 3.1`
`02:17.33`	`SunTsu`	`Was on 60 to 90 fps, no I am at 30 if I am lucky`
`02:17.39`	`durcyn`	`i'm trying to get people to use mumble, but they're all lazy and used to vent :(`
`02:17.41`	`SunTsu`	`now`
`02:18.02`	`NivFreak`	`what's good about mumble?`
`02:18.03`	`Axodious`	`teamspeak beta is nice`
`02:18.27`	`Axodious`	`and you can get a non-profit license to bump your max clients to like 500`
`02:18.27`	`SunTsu`	`durcyn: I like mumble because it's open, but it has the tendency to lose packets`
`02:18.28`	`ulic`	`durcyn: that's the rare occassion it's good to be the guild leader and the only one that pays for a voice server, you can make em switch :)`
`02:18.48`	`durcyn`	`ulic: yeah, he's the one i've been yelling at =P`
`02:18.49`	`NivFreak`	`I pay for our vent`
`02:18.50`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: crypted communication, open source software, good quality`
`02:18.52`	`NivFreak`	`and run the guild`
`02:18.57`	`NivFreak`	`and I have no real beef with ventrilo`
`02:19.07`	`NivFreak`	`quality is good until people fail at the hardware level`
`02:19.14`	`NivFreak`	`I pay like $75 a year?`
`02:19.17`	`NivFreak`	`I think`
`02:19.27`	`durcyn`	`vent's protocol is a bit long in the teeth, i rather like how mumble/murmur is lower latency`
`02:19.33`	`durcyn`	`and the new codec is quite competitive`
`02:19.39`	`SunTsu`	`I am glad I don't pay for any server but earn money having them :>`
`02:19.54`	`durcyn`	`hearing people blame "vent lag" for why they fucked up on a fight gets old after a while`
`02:19.56`	`NivFreak`	`in general I find it obnoxious to tell people they need something other than vent in wow`
`02:20.05`	`NivFreak`	`and I like bouncing between other guild's vents to talk about things if needed`
`02:20.16`	`NivFreak`	`durcyn: it's also largely bullshit`
`02:20.25`	`durcyn`	`yes, but i'm all about taking away excuses`
`02:20.35`	`NivFreak`	`how does that take away an excuse`
`02:20.39`	`NivFreak`	`they can claim it lags`
`02:20.51`	`NivFreak`	`and it would be just as much bullshit`
`02:21.02`	`SunTsu`	`on german realms it's mostly TS2 and it would be dumb to tell e.g. randoms "yeah, thanks for helping us out, but you need to install mumble for that, OK?"`
`02:21.02`	`NivFreak`	`or maybe not, maybe mumble really is lagging`
`02:21.16`	`NivFreak`	`^`
`02:21.34`	`NivFreak`	`so are you using mainstream wine, or cedega or whatever`
`02:21.54`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: plain wine - no cedega for FreeBSD`
`02:22.01`	`NivFreak`	`so I don't get it`
`02:22.08`	`NivFreak`	`mumble brags about speex for thier quality`
`02:22.12`	`NivFreak`	`which is what vent uses....`
`02:22.35`	`NivFreak`	`or at least, any decent vent service`
`02:23.36`	`NivFreak`	`ok`
`02:23.41`	`NivFreak`	`positional audio sounds kinda cool`
`02:23.44`	`NivFreak`	`but might also be obnoxious`
`02:24.28`	`SunTsu`	`I own the servers I run murmur and TS2-server on, no extra cost - so why would I be using vent? ;)`
`02:26.37`	`NivFreak`	`I've had extremely good experience with ventrilo regarding stable voice quality`
`02:27.03`	`NivFreak`	`the only problems I hear is people cutting out when thier own connection starts to fail`
`02:27.19`	`NivFreak`	`which generally happens at the same time they disconnect from WoW`
`02:27.22`	Funkeh`	`the only reason my guild uses ts2 is because of licensing. I hate it, and I love vent. Thankfully TS3 is in beta and looks very promising.`
`02:27.37`	`koaschten`	Funkeh` go mumble
`02:27.38`	`SunTsu`	`I mostly use TS2 for WoW and mumbly for pirate party meetings ;)`
`02:27.48`	`SunTsu`	Funkeh`: give mumble a shot, seriously
`02:28.03`	Funkeh`	`never even heard of mumble`
`02:28.18`	`NivFreak`	`I would love to run my own ventrilo server, it's true`
`02:28.26`	`SunTsu`	`http://mumble.sourceforge.net/`
`02:28.31`	`NivFreak`	`This means that a server with 20 players and 2 players talking at once requires 1-3 Mbit/s, depending on quality settings. In the server's .ini file, you can specify the maximum allowed bitrate for users as well as the maximum number of clients to allow.`
`02:28.39`	`NivFreak`	`that's fairly heafty`
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`02:32.29`	`SunTsu`	`NivFreak: I frankly don't care, the hosting provider should be able to deliver`
`02:33.25`	`SunTsu`	`I don't care about traffic either, it's cheap enough and my customers pay enough to cover ;)`
`02:33.28`	`vhaarr`	`durcyn: perhaps you're not aware, but VT apparently has a 0.5sec builtin delay both ways`
`02:34.52`	`Shadowed`	`why 0.5s?`
`02:35.02`	`vhaarr`	`I think you should ask them`
`02:35.19`	`Shadowed`	`That seems fairly arbitrary`
`02:35.34`	`vhaarr`	`we run mumble with 20s latency and it's fine`
`02:35.35`	`Shadowed`	`Unless they plan on removing it in the future and saying HEY LOOK WE FIXED LATENCY`
`02:36.13`	`vhaarr`	`err`
`02:36.14`	`vhaarr`	`20ms`
`02:36.35`	`Bruners`	`vhaarr: client side or server side?`
`02:36.56`	`WobWork1`	`sigh`
`02:36.57`	`WobWork1`	`http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mr-plow.aspx#648518`
`02:37.03`	`WobWork1`	`why do people bother?`
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`02:38.27`	`ckknight`	`SeÃ±or Plow no es macho es solamente un gurracho`
`02:39.21`	`WobWork1`	`gurracho?`
`02:40.50`	`quiesense`	`moo`
`02:42.49`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ`
`02:43.39`	`Primer`	`sigh, my calendar scraper mysteriously stops working again`
`02:43.49`	`Primer`	`no fucking reason`
`02:44.24`	`quiesense`	`it doesn't like you`
`02:44.30`	`quiesense`	`):`
`02:44.52`	`Primer`	`naw, I changed something. The original script still works`
`02:44.57`	`Primer`	`this one does not`
`02:45.24`	`Primer`	`the difference being one was strictly command line based, this one is supposed to be hit from a browser`
`02:45.33`	`Primer`	`all it does it scrape and write the json to a file`
`02:49.03`	`Torhal`	`pompy: Fuuuuuuuuuuu`
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`02:54.21`	`Shadowed`	`Torhal: can you enable forums for Elitist group?`
`02:55.24`	`Repo`	`New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid2statusdungeonrole/. Grid2StatusDungeonRole. Gaff3 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.`
`02:55.38`	`Torhal`	`Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/forum/`
`02:55.47`	`Shadowed`	`thanks`
`03:09.10`	`arkanes`	`sigh`
`03:09.15`	`arkanes`	`anub down with 49 attempts`
`03:09.28`	`arkanes`	`server lag killed 2 healers 10 seconds into valkyr`
`03:09.58`	`Bruners`	`on our last attempt we had the whole server crash`
`03:11.38`	`Ingelagr`	`we did a "we all know each other but do not play all in same guild"-pug before in toc10, got insanity lol`
`03:12.09`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03pompachomp * r2801 Database/Alchemy.lua: Added missing acquire data to Flask of Distilled Wisdom.`
`03:13.23`	`arkanes`	`we come so close every week`
`03:13.29`	`arkanes`	`and theres always something that fucks us`
`03:13.32`	`Groktar`	`http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-gac4445x765gq8t4/sum/damageDone/?s=2277&e=2486`
`03:13.34`	`arkanes`	`getting irritating :(`
`03:13.36`	`Groktar`	`i brought the pain`
`03:13.36`	`Groktar`	`:D`
`03:13.58`	`Gnarfoz`	`cleavetar`
`03:14.02`	`Ingelagr`	`sucks arkanes =(`
`03:14.10`	`Groktar`	`:D :D :D`
`03:14.12`	`Axodious`	`arkanes`
`03:14.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`Groktar: your armoray linky linky?`
`03:14.19`	`Axodious`	`at least you don't get sat every week`
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`03:14.32`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, seriously? that's a frost dw dk at #3 o_O`
`03:14.56`	`arkanes`	`putricide down though`
`03:15.00`	`arkanes`	`p3 is craaazy`
`03:15.14`	`Axodious`	`p3's not bad, what's your strat?`
`03:15.54`	`arkanes`	`scream "kill that mother" in vent and push DPS buttons very hard`
`03:16.00`	`Axodious`	`lol`
`03:16.10`	`Ingelagr`	`arkanes, link your priest`
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`03:16.19`	`arkanes`	`mines level 62`
`03:16.22`	`arkanes`	`or 61 or something`
`03:16.28`	`arkanes`	`what did you want to know about him?`
`03:16.32`	`arkanes`	`er, 72`
`03:16.59`	`Ingelagr`	`oh thought you raided with it`
`03:17.00`	`Ingelagr`	`nvm then`
`03:17.03`	`arkanes`	`nah`
`03:17.06`	`arkanes`	`my mains a pally`
`03:17.23`	`Axodious`	`we have the ranged sit in the mid sorta strafing for malleable, tank runs to the opposite side of the room of the table just before tear gas, nobody (NOBODY) stands in front of the tank in case they spawn something tehreand it's just tank tank move tank tank move`
`03:17.23`	`arkanes`	`Ive got rogue and druid 80s, slowly getting the priest up there`
`03:17.40`	`Axodious`	`use 3 tanks taunt off at 3 each`
`03:17.41`	`arkanes`	`Axodious: we phased him too soon on accident`
`03:17.48`	`Ingelagr`	`priest the best class anyways!`
`03:17.52`	`Axodious`	`yeah think we did that on our first kill`
`03:17.56`	`Axodious`	`2nd was much cleaner though`
`03:18.00`	`arkanes`	`had a gas blob up that happily died to dots before the tear gas went down`
`03:18.15`	`Groktar`	`we're going to do him in a few minutes`
`03:18.24`	`arkanes`	`I was standing right in front of the table, started to move him, got cut off by slime`
`03:18.38`	`arkanes`	`ran through the slime to move him, everyones screaming, OT taunts...`
`03:18.50`	`arkanes`	`DPS is dying all over, slime fills the room, he dies with the 2 tanks left standing`
`03:18.55`	`arkanes`	`pretty epic, really`
`03:19.18`	`Axodious`	`if you run to the door just before tear gas you get an extra ~5 seconds of dps`
`03:19.21`	`Axodious`	`cause he has to run`
`03:19.28`	`arkanes`	`yeah`
`03:19.39`	`arkanes`	`p2 is such an rng clusterfuck`
`03:20.57`	`arkanes`	`anyway its a kill, I'll take it :P`
`03:20.58`	`Axodious`	`mmm just got some amazing hot'n'sour soup`
`03:21.00`	`Axodious`	`yep`
`03:21.24`	`Ingelagr`	`almost 5900gs now lol`
`03:21.27`	`ulic`	`Shadowed, Antiarc: EG doesn't recognize prismatic sockets?`
`03:22.01`	`Shadowed`	`Belt Buckles aren't enchants, they are a weird modifier that isn't available to people through inspect.`
`03:22.36`	`ulic`	`ah`
`03:22.52`	`Shadowed`	`Anyone know if there's a function called in GameTooltip when you mouseover a unit in the 3D world (not through a frame)`
`03:23.03`	`Shadowed`	`It's not SetUnit so I think it's C side`
`03:23.27`	`arkanes`	`as far as I know there is no programmatic way to tell the difference between a "unit" in the 3d world and one you got from a frame`
`03:23.40`	`Axodious`	`Shadowed go wowaceify power auras for me k? :D`
`03:23.47`	`Shadowed`	`Ah OnTooltipSetUnit not a function`
`03:23.55`	`Shadowed`	`There seems to be arkanes`
`03:24.06`	`Ingelagr`	`Axodious, yes. Give that :)`
`03:24.17`	`Shadowed`	`When OnTooltipSetUnit is called, if arg1 is nil it's 3D, otherwise it's a frame`
`03:24.18`	`arkanes`	`that'll be called by unit frames also though`
`03:24.22`	`arkanes`	`huh`
`03:24.29`	`Shadowed`	`shrugs`
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`03:24.33`	`Shadowed`	`That's just what I'm seeing right now`
`03:24.40`	`arkanes`	`did not know that`
`03:24.50`	`Shadowed`	`I was just going to use GetMouseFocus(), this is a tad easier`
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`03:29.21`	`KriLL3`	`just had a weird bug with bartender, in trial of the champion, jumped on a mount and my keybinds for the main bar didn't work anymore, just said "you can't do that right now" (as if it was trying to use my normal bars instead of the mount's bar)`
`03:29.24`	`KriLL3`	`had to click`
`03:29.34`	`Ingelagr`	`Shadowed, please, get custom inlines for target, player, and so on, please, for me? (A)`
`03:29.42`	`Ingelagr`	`i need that so badly`
`03:29.48`	`KriLL3`	`hasn't happened before, worked just fine a couple of weeks ago`
`03:29.59`	`KriLL3`	`replacing the mount didn't fix it`
`03:35.38`	`steev`	`got Putricide to 13%, 5 attempts remaining now`
`03:35.47`	`Axodious`	`gl`
`03:35.59`	`steev`	`thats when we hit berserk heh`
`03:36.02`	`KriLL3`	`are they hotfixes to him applied yet?`
`03:36.06`	`steev`	`yes`
`03:36.07`	`KriLL3`	`*the`
`03:36.09`	`KriLL3`	`kk`
`03:37.32`	`arkanes`	`we found out today that if an ooze target bubbles or iceblocks, the ooze will just sit there not exploding`
`03:37.36`	`KriLL3`	`why does it take longer to change realm than to re-log and pick another realm from the list? :<`
`03:37.39`	`arkanes`	`deterrence, too`
`03:37.48`	`arkanes`	`just as an fyi`
`03:37.49`	`steev`	`sylvanaar: was just wondering how to make Prat see that our guild uses the terminology "Alt: Mainsname"`
`03:38.19`	`steev`	`arkanes: yeah we've started doing that when its a mage hunter or paladin`
`03:38.40`	`steev`	`it doesn't sit there and not explode - it changes target eventually, but the pause is definitely nice`
`03:38.55`	`Odlaw`	`blah.. i hate how blizzard puts a cooldown on /who'ing people when I just need their online status. Currently sending short addon messages and checking for the no player online messages.. anyone have any other ideas on fast online status checks?`
`03:39.26`	`steev`	`send a tell?`
`03:39.36`	`Odlaw`	`that's what i'm doing.. except addon messages so it's more invis`
`03:39.46`	`Odlaw`	`but thought there might be a better way :/`
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`03:40.59`	`steev`	`sigh`
`03:41.15`	`steev`	`i hate these breaks mid raid - its nice but ffs, its not like the time amount changes`
`03:42.46`	`orionshock`	`CCv3 API is down again from the feel of it`
`03:43.03`	`koaschten`	`why do you need to constantly check online status?`
`03:43.06`	`orionshock`	`either that or my computer hates those servers`
`03:43.22`	`Odlaw`	`i don't need to constantly check it..`
`03:43.38`	`Odlaw`	`i just need to check status on a list of like 60 people.. for calendar invites etc`
`03:43.44`	`Odlaw`	`and their alts`
`03:47.29`	`Gnarfoz`	`Odlaw: /friend /removefriend`
`03:47.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`(with a second argument, check how BadBoy_Levels does it)`
`03:48.15`	`Odlaw`	`k`
`03:48.53`	`Ingelagr`	`badboy needs you!`
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`03:55.19`	`Groktar`	`lol failing on anub`
`03:57.01`	`Ingelagr`	`is there any other broker other then titan panel, chocolate bar and fubar?`
`03:57.10`	`Ingelagr`	`that's worth trying out that is`
`03:57.25`	`Groktar`	`sigh we failed on anub`
`03:57.26`	`Bruners`	`Statblockcore`
`03:57.32`	`Groktar`	`so we decided to go waste our putricide attempts`
`03:57.33`	`Groktar`	`heh`
`03:57.40`	`SunTsu`	`Ingelagr: DockingStation`
`03:58.05`	`Bruners`	`cargoship`
`03:58.20`	`Ingelagr`	`<3 thanks`
`04:02.52`	`ulic`	`Ingelagr: I use fortress`
`04:03.11`	`Ingelagr`	`i'll try that one too thanks ulic`
`04:03.18`	`steev`	`oh that SUCKED`
`04:03.33`	`steev`	`i was sitting in the back of the room yet somehow my ghoul aggros to the boss`
`04:03.52`	`Bruners`	`thats why you dont go unholy`
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`04:05.00`	`Gnarfoz`	`Bazooka!`
`04:05.05`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, Fubar is not a Broker display`
`04:05.25`	`Bruners`	`is titan panel ?`
`04:05.52`	`WobWork`	`Finabd?`
`04:06.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`Bruners: yeah`
`04:07.14`	`WobWork`	`I use ninjapanel`
`04:07.18`	`arkanes`	`there's ldb2fubar, though`
`04:07.22`	`arkanes`	`if you like fubar`
`04:07.42`	`Bruners`	`i use oPanel and libcargoship`
`04:07.45`	`Gnarfoz`	`broker2fubar ;)`
`04:08.02`	`arkanes`	`right`
`04:08.24`	`Ingelagr`	`broker/fubar, call it what ever`
`04:08.32`	`Ingelagr`	`bar thing taht's on top of your screen!`
`04:08.56`	`WobWork`	`it kind of matters if you're looking for a precise addon name =P`
`04:09.21`	`Ingelagr`	`hehe`
`04:09.23`	`Ingelagr`	`=)`
`04:09.59`	`WobWork`	`Like calling you Ingebeer`
`04:10.17`	`Ingelagr`	`why am i ingelagr here is a good question though`
`04:11.53`	`Ingela`	`btw inge is kinda slang for no in swedish, so i read that "no beer" =(`
`04:11.57`	`orionshock`	`WobWork, did jnwhiteh ever put in the ability to move stuff around and text into Ninja Panel ?`
`04:15.12`	`Ingela`	`wtf you can't move stuff around with ninja panel`
`04:15.18`	`Ingela`	`disabling it`
`04:16.53`	`Ingela`	`not very ninja like to me :(`
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`04:19.00`	`Torhal`	`pompy: Be welcome in your backness!`
`04:21.02`	`WobWork`	`orionshock: dunno`
`04:21.06`	`WobWork`	`It never bothered me =P`
`04:21.34`	`Ingela`	`you guys have too low standards`
`04:21.36`	`WobWork`	`I am fanboish in my usage of Ninjapanel`
`04:21.54`	`WobWork`	`Ingela: you want to be fussy.. write it yourself =P`
`04:21.55`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://firstpersontetris.com/`
`04:22.03`	`WobWork`	`Gnarfoz: it's no longer /.'d?`
`04:22.05`	`WobWork`	`cool`
`04:22.14`	`WobWork`	`I tried it a couple of days ago, but couldn't get in`
`04:22.18`	`Gnarfoz`	`I recommend night mode`
`04:22.19`	`Gnarfoz`	`:D`
`04:22.24`	`Ingela`	`WobWork, i don't have the exp for that yet saddly enough, otherwise i'd make one long ago`
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`04:25.50`	`WobWork`	`Ingela: Then don't be fussy =P`
`04:26.01`	`Ingela`	`i just have high standards that's all!`
`04:26.09`	`WobWork`	`fine to have high standards`
`04:26.26`	`WobWork`	`but if you don't fight for those standards, you're not worth it =)`
`04:26.34`	`Ingela`	`:'(`
`04:26.44`	`Ingela`	`i should really start working on more addons you're right`
`04:26.56`	`Ingela`	`but i'm too noob for it <.<`
`04:26.56`	`WobWork`	`if your standards were truly high, you'd learn enough programming to write the addons you feel are needed`
`04:27.26`	`AndChat\|`	`^^`
`04:27.36`	`Ingela`	`i did that WobWork`
`04:27.38`	`Ingela`	`with one addon`
`04:27.39`	`Ingela`	`so far`
`04:27.39`	`Ingela`	`:P`
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`04:28.44`	`WobWork`	`Ingela: Well, keep at it! Don't let yourself down!`
`04:28.52`	`Ingela`	`\o/`
`04:29.06`	`Ingela`	`i should really start working on that xp addon i started with`
`04:29.11`	`Ingela`	`since that's a major issue`
`04:30.09`	`Shadowed`	`More addons are written because somebody hated the way somebody else did it`
`04:30.12`	`Shadowed`	`than anything else :>`
`04:30.35`	`Ingela`	`that's why i said once that we should make standars for addons`
`04:30.57`	`Ingela`	`but i'm no position to force people to do those things nor creating like a community for it or what ever :P`
`04:31.14`	`orionshock-driod`	`Would never work tho ing`
`04:31.38`	`Ingela`	`why not`
`04:32.29`	`orionshock-driod`	`Free vs money vs loyalty.. everything runs on 1 of those 3`
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`04:38.01`	`steev`	`1 attempt left :/`
`04:38.03`	`steev`	`25% that time`
`04:38.57`	`WobWork`	`good luck steev`
`04:39.02`	`WobWork`	`Ingela: what's the xp addon?`
`04:39.12`	`Ingela`	`ingela's XPbar`
`04:39.21`	`Ingela`	`but it's not even half done yet`
`04:39.36`	`WobWork`	`what makes it shiny?`
`04:39.44`	`Ingela`	`it got proper settings`
`04:41.06`	`WobWork`	`like?`
`04:41.32`	`Ingela`	`like for starters, x and y placement`
`04:41.40`	`Ingela`	`that should be a fuckin' need for every addon`
`04:41.47`	`Ingela`	`_every_`
`04:41.59`	`Ingela`	`ok every addon that has any kind of placements then :)`
`04:42.23`	`WobWork`	`xparky could do that... I think =P`
`04:42.31`	`WobWork`	`it's been so long since I looked at that code though`
`04:42.37`	`Ingela`	`tried xparky, didn't like it`
`04:42.49`	`Ingela`	`i think i couldn't change colors of the bars`
`04:42.55`	`WobWork`	`o.O`
`04:43.05`	`Ingela`	`or no`
`04:43.07`	`Ingela`	`that was another addon`
`04:43.23`	`WobWork`	`3/4 of Xparky were the colours on the bars =P`
`04:43.35`	`Ingela`	`yeap, i remember that now`
`04:43.44`	`Ingela`	`i tried like 10-15 differnet xp bars at least`
`04:43.56`	`WobWork`	`I found... by the time you find one you like`
`04:43.57`	`Ingela`	`if the addon has exp, xp, or anything like that i've tried it`
`04:43.58`	`WobWork`	`you've hit 80`
`04:44.05`	`Ingela`	`well it's for rep so :D`
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`04:44.20`	`WobWork`	`rep is ridiculously easy to get nowadays too`
`04:44.21`	`KriLL3`	`I use the xp bar in pitbull`
`04:44.32`	`orionshock-driod`	`I just use the default one moved by bt4`
`04:46.31`	`Ingela`	`well xparky is buggy`
`04:46.34`	`Ingela`	`maybe that's why i didn't like it`
`04:46.50`	`Ingela`	`also i can't change statusbars on it`
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`04:47.46`	`Ingela`	`i should try pitbulls xp bar`
`04:47.54`	`Ingela`	`would be worth running pitbull only for the xp bar`
`04:48.01`	`WobWork`	`O.O`
`04:48.04`	`KriLL3`	`it's part of the unitframe`
`04:48.18`	`Ingela`	`i have other unitframe`
`04:48.27`	`Ingela`	`can just hide health and stuff`
`04:50.08`	`Ingela`	`WobWork, weird taste, picky, perfectionist and lazy is not a very good mix`
`04:50.37`	`steev`	`not this week`
`04:51.05`	`Ingela`	`steev, =(`
`04:54.46`	`steev`	`http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2lf5y7c2m63ucntk/`
`04:55.03`	`WobWork`	`perfectionist and lazy are counterintuitive`
`04:55.10`	`WobWork`	`in this case`
`04:55.36`	`Ingela`	`steev, not top dawg!`
`04:55.40`	`WobWork`	`cause it's a terrible terrible waste of resources to run a complete unit frame addon -just- for the xp bar`
`04:55.51`	`Ingela`	`:D`
`04:55.54`	`WobWork`	`especially pitbull, which is in no way small`
`04:56.03`	`WobWork`	`it's like swatting a fly with a buick`
`04:58.24`	`quiesense`	`maybe its a really big fly`
`05:00.12`	`steev`	`Ingela: indeed, i'm not`
`05:00.38`	`steev`	`i'm using Justicebringer... Indifferent is using Shadow's Edge`
`05:00.52`	`steev`	`I'm hoping to win the roll on the blood next week`
`05:01.40`	`Ingela`	`WobWork, this is pissing me off too, when stuff have width slider for example, and have a little number winodw for it to manually type what i want`
`05:01.48`	`Ingela`	`too bad it doesn't go further then max or lowest`
`05:02.05`	`Ingela`	`and too bad it follows striclty the sliders like 5 space every time`
`05:02.06`	`Ingela`	`<.<.<.<.<`
`05:02.08`	`Ingela`	`pisses me off so much`
`05:02.15`	`Ingela`	`strictly*`
`05:05.16`	`WobWork`	`quiesense: perhaps I should rephrase. "It's like swatting a fly with the sun visor while -wearing- the Buick"`
`05:05.32`	`Ingela`	`uninstalls pt3, trying pt4`
`05:05.35`	`Shadowed`	`It's like cooking a muffin by throwing it into the sun`
`05:05.44`	`WobWork`	`Ingela: The whole -point- of the slider is to limit your input`
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`05:09.26`	`Ingela`	`you hurt my black heart`
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`05:11.12`	`WobWork`	`but really Ingela, lazy and picky are two traits that don't go well together`
`05:11.19`	`Ingela`	`really, i found out`
`05:11.28`	`WobWork`	`cause we'll judge you, (correctly) as being a fucktard and ignore any input you have =)`
`05:11.34`	`WobWork`	`so shape up =P`
`05:11.36`	`Ingela`	`my room is a mess, but all my movies (1k+) are in year and alphabetic order :P`
`05:14.20`	`Ingela`	`i might be able to sort the xp bar problem out with pitbull`
`05:14.21`	`Ingela`	`finally`
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`05:16.42`	`Ingela`	`good job ckknight, Shefki, Stanzilla, i love you`
`05:17.33`	`Torhal`	`Fine! Be that way!`
`05:17.58`	`Ingela`	`:(`
`05:27.12`	`Ingela`	`now this is awesome`
`05:27.17`	`Ingela`	`is there anyway i can change strata though`
`05:32.19`	`WobWork`	`undoubtedly`
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`05:32.25`	`Ingela`	`i can't find it`
`05:32.26`	`Ingela`	`:(`
`05:32.52`	`WobWork`	`I figured ckk would have made pitbull do everything`
`05:33.36`	`Ingela`	`yeah well he made it possible for me to have a proper xp bar`
`05:33.47`	`Ingela`	`which i'm thankful until the end of time`
`05:33.53`	`Ingela`	`after that he can gtfo tbh`
`05:34.13`	`digmouse`	`I thought you were talking about STUF?`
`05:34.27`	`quiescens`	`stuff?`
`05:34.42`	`Torhal`	`PB4 is, for the most part, Shefki.`
`05:34.56`	`Ingela`	`chefki`
`05:35.11`	`digmouse`	`based on what Ingela complaints about the slider, I thought he was talking about how STUF was messing he XP bar`
`05:35.31`	`Ingela`	`no i'm complaining about PT3 not letting me to edit the sliders as i wanted it`
`05:35.42`	`Ingela`	`becuase they had a max of something and i wanted to increase that`
`05:35.52`	`digmouse`	`o.O then I must have missed some part`
`05:36.01`	`Ingela`	`don't worry digmouse i'm retarded`
`05:36.03`	`digmouse`	`PT3 is still in rock right?`
`05:36.27`	`digmouse`	`then there is no easy way, in Ace3 there is a way to tune the slider precisely`
`05:36.34`	`Ingela`	`yeah`
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`05:36.47`	`Ingela`	`ace3 is ace`
`05:37.31`	`digmouse`	`hover cursor to the text above the slider, move it up till the tooltip is gone, click, then move the cursor back to the text till the tooltip is back, then you can tune it with your mouse wheel ^^`
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`05:37.59`	`Repo`	`- Put the list in alphabetical order`
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`05:38.42`	`Ingela`	`clock is getting kinda much here, 06.38 :(`
`05:39.10`	`digmouse`	`sun shining and there is going to be a sun eclipse later`
`05:39.14`	`digmouse`	`at 15:30`
`05:41.47`	`koaschten`	`why do i have the feeling that the login servers can't cope with the new armory that well`
`05:41.57`	`koaschten`	`i get login servers down when ever i try to switch realms`
`05:44.37`	`Ingela`	`http://pici.se/pictures/EmXZEVmqF.jpg`
`05:44.43`	`Ingela`	`look at that reputation bar`
`05:44.46`	`Ingela`	`behind my titan panel`
`05:44.49`	`Ingela`	`almost makes me cry`
`05:46.24`	`WobWork`	`cry?`
`05:47.19`	`Ingela`	`cry out of joy`
`05:47.44`	`mascondante`	`Would someone be willing to look at something that's kind of dropped in my lap? I'm just starting to learn lua and I'm trying to get it changed over to work with a hardware event.`
`05:48.42`	`Ingela`	`i'm finally almost done with my ui`
`05:48.45`	`Ingela`	`i can soon rest in piece`
`05:49.33`	`koaschten`	`rest in pieces?`
`05:49.39`	`koaschten`	`fetches a shovel.`
`05:49.59`	`Ingela`	`my life goal is complete`
`05:50.04`	`Ingela`	`i found a working xp bar`
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`05:50.15`	`Ingela`	`i can't even describe the joy i have now`
`05:50.18`	`koaschten`	`i think you want to rest in peace ,)`
`05:50.26`	`Ingela`	`this is so beautiful`
`05:50.32`	`Ingela`	`feels like i'm in heaven already`
`05:51.16`	`Groktar`	`finally got putricide`
`05:51.18`	`Groktar`	`thank god`
`05:51.23`	`Groktar`	`5 attempts left`
`05:51.23`	`Ingela`	`10man?`
`05:51.23`	`Groktar`	`:/`
`05:51.26`	`Ingela`	`or 25`
`05:51.26`	`Groktar`	`25`
`05:51.26`	`mascondante`	`Or at least tell me what has to change to make a button work for a hardware event?`
`05:51.28`	`WobWork`	`grats Mr Grok`
`05:51.30`	`Ingela`	`very nice Groktar`
`05:51.34`	`Groktar`	`http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=116`
`05:51.44`	`Ingela`	`hopefully we'll get him too this week`
`05:52.08`	`Groktar`	`frickin gm died TWICE to malleable ooze on the kill`
`05:52.14`	`Ingela`	`so what dps did you do this time, 20k?`
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`05:53.11`	`Groktar`	`i did like 6k`
`05:53.13`	`Groktar`	`was awful`
`05:53.17`	`Groktar`	`i was trying to sunder the boss`
`05:53.39`	`Ingela`	`any good loots?`
`05:53.39`	`Groktar`	`seemed like i spent 90% of my time applying sunder and running around flasks`
`05:53.45`	`Groktar`	`awful loots`
`05:53.51`	`Groktar`	`abom in a jar`
`05:53.55`	`Groktar`	`protector/conq`
`05:54.09`	`Ingela`	`:(`
`05:54.19`	`Ingela`	`how is it with lag over there in US`
`05:54.37`	`Groktar`	`lag wasn't a problem`
`05:54.41`	`Groktar`	`kinda annoying on tuesdays`
`05:54.49`	`Ingela`	`tuesdays?`
`05:54.54`	`Ingela`	`ah nvm lol, tuesday = wednesday`
`05:55.01`	`Ingela`	`we are one day slower =(`
`05:55.24`	`Ingela`	`but like today on a thursday (your wednesday) we had loads of lag in our 25man`
`05:55.33`	`Ingela`	`had lag last sunday too`
`05:55.42`	`Ingela`	`only time we didn't have lag was tuesday`
`05:55.52`	`Ingela`	`fun trying to do putricide then :(`
`05:56.13`	`Groktar`	`:(`
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`05:59.11`	`Ingela`	`off to bed now`
`05:59.12`	`Ingela`	`gnnnnnnz`
`06:00.14`	`steev`	`supid question maybe but, is there a quicker way to tell if you've done the daily than to log on and type /df ?`
`06:03.11`	`WobWork`	`steev: check your activity feed from the armory?`
`06:04.09`	`steev`	`WobWork: hrm, okay`
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`06:28.37`	`sylvanaar`	`steev theres a folder in the samples directory of prat called myguildalts, you can try to customize it`
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`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`stolenlegacy: he added some kind of 'true' flag in the dev version that you had to add to get the old behaviour`
`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`which basically broke a lot of plugins and websites if they upgraded`
`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`not sure if he decided to revert that change`
`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`oh wait crazybenny not stolenlegacy`
`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`woops`
`08:53.07`	`[Ammo]`	`goes for more coffee`
`08:53.07`	`stolenlegacy`	`orionshock: your addon can't load a lib if it is loaded by the client before the lib is, iirc`
`08:53.07`	`stolenlegacy`	`since the client doesn't even know the lib is there yet`
`08:54.15`	`CrazyBenny`	`with jQuery you're basicly better to keep the version you started the app with and move to new versions on new projects..because even with a small change in api, some of the plugins get broken`
`08:54.15`	`asmodai`	`[Ammo]: attr seems to exist still`
`08:54.15`	`orionshock`	`stolenlegacy, i need to add LibSink-2.0 as an opt dep, then it'll work`
`08:54.15`	`[Ammo]`	`asmodai: yeah but he changed it's behaviour`
`08:54.15`	`[Ammo]`	`CrazyBenny: yeah well, that's bad actually`
`08:54.15`	`[Ammo]`	`I like jquery but the way he handles his API sucks`
`08:54.15`	`[Ammo]`	`then again he isn't a programmer originally`
`08:57.39`	`[Ammo]`	`he's more a designer :)`
`08:57.39`	`stolenlegacy`	`orionshock: i just tried, and yes`
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`08:57.40`	`CrazyBenny`	`[Ammo]: myeah, unfortunately a lot of html monkeys or designers try to get hands on javascript stuff and most of the stuff I've seen was really really bad :P`
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`09:02.15`	`Repo`	`10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.5-beta-1-ge573148 DungeonSpeedRunner.toc: [+1 commit] fix opt deps for no-libs`
`09:02.15`	`Cyrez`	`Don't you just hate it when some mob has, like 11hp left or anything super low like that, and it takes a dozen or so more swings to kill it? ><`
`09:02.15`	`Cyrez`	`Like, you're ripping it do shreads then MISS-MISS-PARRY-MISS-MISS.`
`09:02.15`	`Cyrez`	`._.`
`09:02.15`	`orionshock`	`Cyrez, ya.. it's called trying too hard`
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`09:03.36`	`digmouse`	`I hate the run-away ones`
`09:04.15`	`digmouse`	`last night I puged a Stockade, with my bear tanking, the run-away ones almost messed everything`
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`09:09.13`	`Repo`	`10classtimer: 03s8095324 * r327 Locales/zhCN.lua: -- zhCN update`
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`09:09.13`	`Cyrez`	`Not so bad if you're a Pally... "You've been tomahawked! :)"`
`09:09.13`	`stolenlegacy`	`Cyrez: frost strinke`
`09:09.13`	`stolenlegacy`	`s/strinke/strike/`
`09:09.24`	`asmodai`	`mmm, any enhancement shaman in the house?`
`09:09.24`	`Elkano`	`only 1.x ;)`
`09:09.24`	`asmodai`	`Elkano: hehe`
`09:09.24`	`asmodai`	`just wondering about a potential talent build switch :)`
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`09:21.52`	`asmodai`	`I'll toggle at least those elemental points around and see how the raids go.`
`09:21.52`	`asmodai`	`So far it seems people benefit from my totems.`
`09:21.52`	`asmodai`	`So would be a pain to remove those`
`09:26.36`	`stolenlegacy`	`as i said, they're vastly superior to the replacements if they're active`
`09:26.36`	`stolenlegacy`	`but if there is another shaman providing them, they're ofc useless`
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`10:29.11`	`*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com \| http://paste.wowace.com \| http://lua.org \| Curse Client v4: http://clientupdate.curse.com/setup.exe \| WoWInterface Minion: http://minion.mmoui.com/ \| http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched \| Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ \| Happy New Year!`
`10:30.42`	`asmodai`	`Ah yes, see the emails now`
`10:31.05`	`asmodai`	`So you got the website working now then?`
`10:32.13`	`asmodai`	`That was pretty fast ;)`
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`10:50.28`	`orionshock`	`YABWSILT = Yet Another Boss With a Single Item Loot Table`
`10:59.17`	`asmodai`	`orionshock: mm?`
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`11:07.33`	`orionshock`	`most of the new ones in ICC-5mans`
`11:11.03`	`Repo`	`10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7038 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update`
`11:11.11`	`olafski`	`Ashen Verdict Ring - Strength DPS Ring`
`11:11.11`	`olafski`	`We are still planning to add the strength ring in the next minor content patch.`
`11:11.12`	`olafski`	`whee :)`
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`11:14.10`	`SunTsu`	`orionshock: yeah, they most of the time drop the same stuff`
`11:15.29`	`olafski`	`don't they each drop like 10 items?`
`11:15.33`	`olafski`	`maybe 5 on normal, 5 heroic I guess`
`11:16.50`	`SunTsu`	`olafski: they do, but there are things I am yet to see from their table, and I run those instances at least four times a day`
`11:19.02`	`olafski`	`oO`
`11:19.05`	`olafski`	`you must be bored`
`11:19.18`	`olafski`	`I've been doing pit of saron with my gf because she wants the boots from Tyranus, haven't seen it either`
`11:19.35`	`SunTsu`	`yeah, I am, ill for four weeks`
`11:20.30`	`olafski`	`:<`
`11:20.37`	`olafski`	`that'll suck :(`
`11:21.59`	`SunTsu`	`yeah, but more than enough time to play some WoW and get my alts equipped ;)`
`11:22.57`	`olafski`	`^^`
`11:23.16`	`olafski`	`I'm leveling more alts instead of equipping them ,)`
`11:23.39`	`SunTsu`	`My last two alts are coming along quite well, too ;)`
`11:24.29`	`Fisker`	`i'm also looking forward to pay 400g olafski :(`
`11:24.31`	`SunTsu`	`But I don't want to hury them, because afterwards I don't have anything left to level, which I like`
`11:24.48`	`olafski`	`paying for what?`
`11:24.56`	`olafski`	`oh`
`11:24.59`	`olafski`	`replacing the ring`
`11:25.02`	`Fisker`	`respec, gem + enchant`
`11:25.06`	`olafski`	`oO`
`11:25.22`	`olafski`	`ah you have higher rep then I guess :P`
`11:25.32`	`Fisker`	`i'm exalted`
`11:25.36`	`olafski`	`I went with the tank ring.. think I'll just keep it`
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`11:26.40`	`Fisker`	`i guess we'll see how good the strength ring is`
`11:26.59`	`Fisker`	`i wouldn't be surprised if they'll make the proc in strength instead`
`11:27.45`	`olafski`	`I always end up tanking anyway.. queueing as dps takes ages`
`11:27.51`	`olafski`	`even if my healer gf joins me`
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`11:28.18`	`olafski`	`luckily the quel'delar choice was easy, the dps version is also the tank version`
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`11:28.51`	`Neurox`	`Err I don't know if this is specifically for Ace stuff, but I wanted to ask how to center a frame on the cursor position? I asked in wowuidev but no one answered`
`11:33.38`	`mitch0`	`neurox: you need to do it from OnUpdate to the best of my knowledge`
`11:34.05`	`mitch0`	`I mean, you need to update the frame position periodically to "follow" the mouse`
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`11:35.24`	`mitch0`	`neurox: you can take a look at RangeDisplay for an example (the mouseover unit display is anchored relative to the mouse cursor). might not be the simplest code doing this sort of stuff out there though...`
`11:36.16`	`Neurox`	`right, I'll take a look thanks`
`11:36.52`	`SunTsu`	`olafski: I only tank currently when I don't have enough time to wait in the queue and still want my frost badges`
`11:37.14`	`SunTsu`	`can't stand current dps' attitude`
`11:37.51`	`winkiller`	`not sure I like the new Armory :\|`
`11:38.17`	`olafski`	`what attitude is that?`
`11:38.45`	`winkiller`	`a sane one`
`11:39.01`	`olafski`	`I doubt he resents a sane attitude :P`
`11:39.11`	`winkiller`	`I also wouldn't queue as tank if I didn't like to do it`
`11:39.15`	`winkiller`	`just because it's needed`
`11:39.23`	`olafski`	`I don't mind doing it`
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`11:39.28`	`olafski`	`but my main spec is (in my head) dps`
`11:39.32`	`winkiller`	`then again I daily queue as tank/dps - dps - healer/dps`
`11:39.39`	`winkiller`	`so I fulfill all 3 roles in my 3 runs`
`11:39.45`	`SunTsu`	`olafski: I had shadow priests running in front of me pulling, even whil the current group was still alive`
`11:40.00`	`olafski`	`oh I generally ask the healer to do that`
`11:40.04`	`winkiller`	`meh, had the worst HoR ever yesterday`
`11:40.18`	`winkiller`	`3 people votekick the 30k hp tankadin`
`11:40.21`	`winkiller`	`DK joins`
`11:40.22`	`olafski`	`so the dps can focus on what they are supposed to do`
`11:40.28`	`winkiller`	`then healer says he's on a friend's toon`
`11:40.35`	`winkiller`	`we wipe on 1st boss`
`11:40.42`	`winkiller`	`healer quits`
`11:40.48`	`olafski`	`was that normal or hc?`
`11:40.52`	`winkiller`	`hc`
`11:40.57`	`olafski`	`30k seems a bit low`
`11:40.57`	`winkiller`	`pally in full pvp joins as healer`
`11:41.13`	`winkiller`	`works fine, until healer lets us die on 1st boss`
`11:41.16`	`winkiller`	`then I quit.`
`11:41.24`	`winkiller`	`first time since this random stuff is in`
`11:41.27`	`winkiller`	`but it was past 1 am`
`11:41.30`	`SunTsu`	`I simply don't like dps playing the game in "arcade" mode`
`11:41.31`	`winkiller`	`and I was tired as hell`
`11:41.48`	`winkiller`	`SunTsu: because they're invading your space? :D`
`11:41.53`	`olafski`	`I don't really mind either way.. heroics are easy enough`
`11:42.03`	`olafski`	`if we wipe I'll say that I want to pull, else I'll just manage whatever they do`
`11:42.46`	`winkiller`	`the layout of the old armory was so much better :(`
`11:42.49`	`SunTsu`	`winkiller: no, because it's dumb and it's stressful for me as a tank, always need to watch out who is pulling now and what and try to get all the mobs from dps`
`11:42.58`	`winkiller`	`hardly happens`
`11:43.06`	`winkiller`	`is feeling lucky`
`11:43.38`	`SunTsu`	`and without a mass taunt, both taunts on CD, well...`
`11:44.03`	`olafski`	`hm I find that with death grip and the reduced cooldown dark command I have enough taunts to keep whatever I need on me :<`
`11:45.57`	`SunTsu`	`I now announce "If somebody pulls for me he gets to keep that mob" when entering an heroic as a tank`
`11:48.16`	`SunTsu`	`yesterday I had two warriors charge at a group of mobs - while I was still on my way to it. So I sat down and watched them having "fun". Afterwards I said "if somebody wants aggro that badly he deserved it"`
`11:49.13`	`olafski`	`:D`
`11:58.30`	`Repo`	`10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol 07cataclysm * r2510 / (13 files in 9 directories): Branch merged with trunk (revision 2509)`
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`12:01.31`	`Neurox`	`grr I can't get it to work, it just moves towards the bottom left corner, I've got SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", x/scale, y/scale)`
`12:11.40`	`mitch0`	`neurox: try frame:ClearAllPoints() before the SetPoint()`
`12:14.28`	`[Ammo]`	`Neurox: http://paste.wowace.com/1641/`
`12:17.04`	`Kalroth`	`what if the mouse isn't damned`
`12:17.09`	`[Ammo]`	`mine is`
`12:18.04`	`mitch0`	`ammo: huh, you need to fiddle with the framescale, too?`
`12:19.03`	`mitch0`	`that double division looks fishy to me`
`12:19.06`	`Fisker`	`postmand pers [Ammo]`
`12:19.17`	`[Ammo]`	`mitch0: it's exactly what I use for CastDonut`
`12:19.23`	`[Ammo]`	`and the CastDonut tracks the mouse perfectly ;)`
`12:19.27`	`[Ammo]`	`so it's needed!`
`12:19.57`	`mitch0`	`does it ever have framesclae != 1 ?`
`12:20.06`	`mitch0`	`s/badspelling/goodspelling/`
`12:20.50`	`[Ammo]`	`it does because I have a setting for it`
`12:20.56`	`[Ammo]`	`so it CAN be different`
`12:21.03`	`Neurox`	`It works! Thanks Ammo, and mitch0 for helping`
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`12:26.55`	`mitch0`	`or`
`12:27.00`	`mitch0`	`dunno :)`
`12:27.11`	`mitch0`	`I don't really play any more`
`12:27.26`	`Gagorian-`	`Me neither, I occasionally get to borrow someones account for testing`
`12:27.43`	`Gagorian-`	`So I don't really care as long as it isn't anything my addon does that crashes it :D`
`12:27.56`	`mitch0`	`anyway, moving the mouse around right after /rl seemed to make the crash more frequent`
`12:28.10`	`mitch0`	`might have been coincidence though ;)`
`12:28.11`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah I have that issue as well ;)`
`12:28.20`	`[Ammo]`	`#132 crash right affter login or /rl`
`12:28.43`	`mitch0`	`ammo: see above, I'm on the opinion that it's caused by some addon`
`12:29.06`	`[Ammo]`	`coul dbe`
`12:29.15`	`Gagorian-`	`I have only Ace3, NinjaPanel, Chatter, DrDamage, BugGrabber, Broker_CPU and a few libs`
`12:29.35`	`Gagorian-`	`Any addons in common?`
`12:29.45`	`mitch0`	`Broker_CPU, BugGrabber, Ace3`
`12:29.46`	`[Ammo]`	`ninjapanel, buggrabber, ace3`
`12:29.52`	`mitch0`	`but I'm almost sure Ace3 doesn't do it`
`12:30.03`	`Gagorian-`	`that would leave BugGrabber`
`12:30.13`	`mitch0`	`although in my "test my addons only" scenario I didn't have the whole Ace3 stuff loaded`
`12:30.40`	`mitch0`	`and Ace3 was not disembedded in that case`
`12:32.09`	`Gagorian-`	`What classes were the crashes on, in case that makes a difference?`
`12:32.14`	`Gagorian-`	`I got at least Paladin and Druid`
`12:32.22`	`mitch0`	`all`
`12:32.24`	`[Ammo]`	`happens on all`
`12:32.51`	`Gagorian-`	`Mmkay, I'll try to spam some rl's to figure it out`
`12:34.13`	`Gagorian-`	`Sigh, obviously no crashes no`
`12:34.16`	`Gagorian-`	`with 20 rl's`
`12:34.23`	`mitch0`	`did you disable anything?`
`12:34.23`	`Gagorian-`	`*now`
`12:34.26`	`Gagorian-`	`nay`
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`12:34.36`	`mitch0`	`did you move the mouse around? :)`
`12:34.46`	`Gagorian-`	`yes :D`
`12:34.51`	`mitch0`	`meh`
`12:34.59`	`mitch0`	`then I'll go catch some food`
`12:35.05`	`Gagorian-`	`It might not be spamming /rl's that causes it though`
`12:35.30`	`Gagorian-`	`Maybe it needs some condition to apply`
`12:35.42`	`mitch0`	`try login / rl`
`12:35.58`	`mitch0`	`I could crash it with about 90% reliability :)`
`12:36.33`	`Gagorian-`	`I've only had a few, doesn't seem to be very common :p`
`12:39.37`	`Gagorian-`	`Crash damnit!`
`12:43.54`	`Repo`	`10everyquest: 03ananhaid * r143 EveryQuest.toc: EveryQuest:`
`12:43.56`	`Repo`	`- Add zhCN/zhTW toc notes.`
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`12:50.09`	`Gagorian-`	`Stopped trying to make it crash and it did`
`12:50.16`	`Neurox`	`lol`
`12:50.43`	`Gagorian-`	`"Current Addon function: CombatLogGetCurrentEntry" says the crash log`
`12:50.47`	`Gagorian-`	`I wonder if that's relevant`
`12:50.54`	`Gagorian-`	`It's always been the same when I checked`
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`12:58.41`	`Fisker`	`it's actually pretty damn funny Shadowed`
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`12:59.59`	`yoshimo`	`~seen elsia`
`13:00.01`	`purl`	`elsia <n=elsiarow@99.150.141.76> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 30d 8h 9m 1s ago, saying: 'anyway, nite folks'.`
`13:00.44`	`Adirelle\|work`	`haste, your latest vehicle version seems fine`
`13:02.07`	`Neurox`	`the new armory is quite nice`
`13:02.21`	`Neurox`	`although the feed says I've done ToGC10 12 times and I haven't done it once`
`13:02.47`	`Fisker`	`old nevcairiel`
`13:02.50`	`Fisker`	`Neurox`
`13:02.52`	`Axodious`	`they need to add more scraper friendly stuff`
`13:03.26`	`Axodious`	`they limit stuff so hard that it ends up costing more bw to scrape then it would to just let them do their like 50 person query`
`13:03.54`	`Gagorian-`	`Question about AceGUI-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0, for example a multiselect type option creates this boxed area for the options. Is it possible to move other elements into the same area that aren't part of the multiselect?`
`13:03.56`	`Neurox`	`Fisker?`
`13:04.01`	`Grum`	`Axodious: it is scraper friendly as it is`
`13:04.07`	`Grum`	`very VERY scraper friendly even`
`13:04.17`	`Grum`	`its just xml O.o`
`13:04.23`	`Axodious`	`i'm talking about the rate limiting`
`13:04.28`	`Grum`	`the whole layout is xslt`
`13:04.34`	`Fisker`	`"old Neurox"`
`13:04.45`	`Grum`	`Axodious: it has a ratelimit?`
`13:04.58`	`Axodious`	`yes`
`13:05.03`	`Grum`	`tbh i quite dislike the whole new page thingie`
`13:05.10`	`Grum`	`i dont want to 'show' when i did heroics ...`
`13:05.20`	`Grum`	`or what blue item i got because there was no disser O.o`
`13:06.05`	`Adirelle\|work`	`haha, grum you won't have that new epic you're convoiting because you looted that blue, shame on you ! :p`
`13:06.22`	`SunTsu`	`Grum: we won't tell anyone that you rolled need ;)`
`13:06.32`	`haste`	`Adirelle\|work: glad that's out of the way then :)`
`13:06.43`	`Grum`	`I ALWAYS NINJA ITEMS BECAUSE I NEED THEM FOR MY REPAIR COSTS BECAUSE I DIE SO MUCH`
`13:06.52`	`Grum`	`so! that's out of the way`
`13:06.53`	`Adirelle\|work`	`s/convoiting/coveting/`
`13:07.00`	`SunTsu`	`or it's a CAPS tax`
`13:07.07`	`Grum`	`SunTsu: affirmative ;)`
`13:07.14`	`Grum`	`but i just had pie! http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/pie.jpg`
`13:07.18`	`Grum`	`and it was filled with chocolate!`
`13:07.43`	`CrazyBenny`	`looks more like an oozeling :P`
`13:07.57`	`Grum`	`aye :P`
`13:07.58`	`Adirelle\|work`	`chocolate oozeling`
`13:08.02`	`Grum`	`I EATED IT!`
`13:08.11`	`Adirelle\|work`	`with chocolate plating`
`13:08.12`	`Grum`	`and it tasted like chocolate =)`
`13:08.15`	`Grum`	`armor`
`13:08.16`	`Grum`	`clearly`
`13:08.56`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Axodious, what happens when you hit the rate limit ?`
`13:09.14`	`SunTsu`	`who would have expected _that_? Chocolate? wtf?`
`13:09.16`	`Grum`	`they delete your character starting with the lowestlevel one`
`13:09.22`	`Adirelle\|work`	`oh`
`13:09.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`that sucks then`
`13:09.33`	`Adirelle\|work`	`gonna use someelse account`
`13:09.37`	`Adirelle\|work`	`someone*`
`13:09.42`	`Grum`	`:P`
`13:09.48`	`Grum`	`nah no idea, prolly just get nothing`
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`13:10.38`	`Grum`	`i hope we get some settings to determine what you want to have shown from your 'stuff you did'`
`13:11.27`	`Axodious`	`if you scrape the armory too fast you get your ip temp banned`
`13:11.38`	`Grum`	`i wonder if that is only for the player pages`
`13:11.51`	`Grum`	`i harvested all items like 10 times already without any blocks`
`13:12.12`	`Axodious`	`i can't remember what the limits were`
`13:13.55`	`Adirelle\|work`	`hrm, can't get it to display data in french`
`13:13.55`	`Grum`	`well i poked for ~11k pages for the item scraping`
`13:14.44`	`Fisker`	`it's fail that the new armory can't atleast support equipment sets`
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`13:16.06`	`Fisker`	`jeg finder dig robotusch`
`13:16.34`	Funkeh`	`anyone tried out STO that can actually get past the loading screen`
`13:17.27`	`Megalon`	`a friend plays the beta or whatever that is right now`
`13:17.33`	`Fisker`	`i did but that was before the open beta boom`
`13:17.35`	`Megalon`	`and he always complains, how he is happy to login`
`13:17.40`	`Megalon`	`or even complete one quest`
`13:17.55`	`Megalon`	`without everything going down in flames :x`
`13:18.35`	Funkeh`	`well um`
`13:18.39`	Funkeh`	`it gets past the loading screen`
`13:18.43`	Funkeh`	`then the screne goes black`
`13:18.50`	Funkeh`	`all i see is the version number in the bottom left`
`13:19.09`	Funkeh`	`everything else is jsut "black"`
`13:20.10`	`asmodai`	Funkeh`: I can ask a friend of mine what's up with that. He works at Cryptic
`13:20.23`	Funkeh`	`that would be cool`
`13:20.30`	`asmodai`	`lets see if he's awake yet`
`13:20.44`	`Axodious`	`i'm glad they did the beta for STO better than champions online`
`13:21.00`	`Axodious`	`not charging people like 10$ to play a beta`
`13:25.04`	`harl`	`btw, i quickly found out the actual reason my wow was like playing dead dog when i just wanted to log out. it wasn't AllPlayed's fault despite the game had stopped at saving AP's SV.`
`13:25.43`	`olafski`	`so does anyone know why the combat log sometimes just seems to stop working?`
`13:25.44`	`harl`	`the actual cause of this was that the ramdisk i've made wow save it's SV onto was cramped`
`13:26.22`	`olafski`	`why are you doing that if I may ask?`
`13:27.06`	`Adirelle\|work`	`olafski, know one knows, it seems this bug exists since they introduced it but became very frequent only since 3.3`
`13:27.13`	`Adirelle\|work`	`(or 3.2, can't remember)`
`13:27.15`	`olafski`	`hm`
`13:27.15`	`harl`	`because i'm logging in and out about 3 times faster with that many addons than when it would save the same things to the harddisk`
`13:27.19`	`olafski`	`so nothing to do about it`
`13:27.26`	`Adirelle\|work`	`relogging`
`13:27.33`	`olafski`	`harl: really? do you have that many savedvariables?`
`13:27.37`	`olafski`	`interesting approach :)`
`13:28.34`	`mitch0`	`tbh, the OS should take better care of caching files and such... (better than the ramdisk approach, that is)`
`13:29.04`	Funkeh`	`asmodai, it jsut suddenly started working`
`13:29.10`	Funkeh`	`had to wait on the blakc screen for 15min`
`13:30.46`	`harl`	`well, it doesn't, that is. i've put all addons as well as all SV (meaning Interface, WTF, logs and cache) into the ramdisk and it loads a whole faster. it doesn't impact on memory usage either because i usually still have enough left when starting the game (meaning, about 1800 mb).`
`13:31.00`	`olafski`	`how do you put stuff like that on a ramdisk? :s`
`13:31.15`	`olafski`	`I've never dabbled with any of this, is there an easy article about it or something? ;)`
`13:31.19`	`harl`	`via junctions / hard links`
`13:31.28`	`Axodious`	`how safe is that for your SVs?`
`13:31.50`	`olafski`	`I assume he backups them somehow`
`13:31.51`	`Axodious`	`like if you lose power you lose all your SVs to that point?`
`13:31.57`	`harl`	`it's save as long as my system doesn't crash and it doesn't.`
`13:32.08`	`harl`	`yes, i would`
`13:32.10`	`olafski`	`i.e. you make the ramdisk and load something on to it`
`13:32.32`	`olafski`	`and when you unload it, you save it back to where you got it from`
`13:32.51`	`harl`	`basically yes`
`13:33.04`	`olafski`	`sounds complicated ,)`
`13:33.49`	`harl`	`i have a separate hard disk partition for wow (which makes the root of that partition my wow directory), then another one for all the rest of wow-related stuff (patches etc)`
`13:34.30`	`olafski`	`you don't reboot often I take it`
`13:34.31`	`harl`	`so that's where i put a backup of the ramdisk about every day to minimize the loss of SV if and when anything bad should happen`
`13:34.56`	`harl`	`no, i usually don't reboot`
`13:35.31`	`olafski`	`and then you have some startup script which makes the ram disk when you boot your OS and loads the SV onto it`
`13:37.21`	`harl`	`the ramdisk is just a device of some kind that installs itself from a .sys file. i do all the file copying manually then.`
`13:38.08`	`olafski`	`hm`
`13:38.13`	`olafski`	`I gotta read up on this +)`
`13:38.24`	`harl`	`then create a set of junctions on the ramdisk and some for linking those directories to the actual wow directory`
`13:38.32`	`olafski`	`so do you have some kind of addon which uses a lot of SV, or does it just always provide an improvement`
`13:39.03`	`olafski`	`could use this for my webserver's cache too I reckon`
`13:39.09`	`Grum`	`harl: use a real OS like linux ;)`
`13:39.49`	`harl`	`i'm not sure if it always provides an actual improvement, like when you only have 5 addons or something, i don't think this would have a real effect on the loading time.`
`13:39.55`	`Grum`	`afaik windows doesnt like mounting a ramdisk at a random location on a physical disk`
`13:40.09`	`olafski`	`apparently it does`
`13:40.12`	`olafski`	`since he is using it like that`
`13:40.42`	`Grum`	`hmm you are actually allowed to use a cross-device junction?`
`13:40.49`	`harl`	`i've not come across any problems with my setup.`
`13:40.49`	`Grum`	`that surprises me :D`
`13:41.20`	`Grum`	`except dataloss?`
`13:41.24`	`olafski`	`there must be quite a few things about windows that surprise linux users`
`13:41.44`	`Fisker`	`slaps Grum around a bit with a large trout`
`13:41.52`	`harl`	`there are hard links, junctions and symlinks.. and probably a 4th variant of that kind of link (which xp doesn't allow, but vista+win7 should).`
`13:42.12`	`Grum`	`olafski: you need an external toolkit to even create junctions .. so its not really surprising that its not 'commonly known' :P`
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`13:42.33`	`harl`	`i haven't quite gotten into this yet, since i'm happe that it works the way it does.`
`13:42.40`	`harl`	`*happy`
`13:42.41`	`Grum`	`afaik a hardlink is a junction`
`13:42.46`	`olafski`	`you do?`
`13:42.48`	`Grum`	`but how to make softlinks? i'd love those`
`13:42.54`	`olafski`	`I thought you could just create them with some command`
`13:43.06`	`Grum`	`yeah, with an executable you have to download somewhere :P`
`13:43.28`	`Grum`	`its not default on an install`
`13:45.04`	`Grum`	`oh junctions are symlinks in some way`
`13:45.20`	`Grum`	`but except when you try to 'delete' a junction it will delete the target it is linked to O.o`
`13:45.46`	`harl`	`actually, windows supports some kind of junctions by its "native" functionality. it's just not comfortable to use it at all.`
`13:46.13`	`Grum`	`yeah junctions are cross device`
`13:46.25`	`Grum`	`as they are just 'softlinks' to a drectory`
`13:46.35`	`Grum`	`but also behave different from the linux counterpart`
`13:46.47`	`harl`	`removing the junction (by doing exactly that, not using windows deleting function) doesn't delete the source file/directory.`
`13:47.00`	`Grum`	`yeah i know`
`13:47.06`	`Grum`	`and windows also has hardlinks apparently`
`13:47.09`	`Grum`	`or ntfs5 has :)`
`13:47.44`	`Repo`	`10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1193 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Added option to reset options to defaults`
`13:47.46`	`Repo`	`- Removed AceDBOptions-3.0 from .pkgmeta`
`13:47.57`	`Grum`	`and you cant symlink files as it appears, just folders`
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`13:49.39`	`harl`	`afaik, the programs/shell extensions that provide means to create junctions/sym-/hardlinks basically tap into the file system. so it may be mostly up the file system being used which kind of links one can utilize.`
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`13:52.14`	`harl`	`+to`
`13:52.18`	`CrazyBenny`	`ah sweet, the new armory changes are now in EU aswell`
`13:52.41`	`olafski`	`as is the old version I guess`
`13:52.54`	`olafski`	`looks like both layouts overlayed now :)`
`13:53.44`	`olafski`	`refresh fixed it.. but I can't see the 3d model :<`
`13:54.25`	`asmodai`	`mmm, still wondering whether to pick up that Samsung Spinpoint F3 or the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 this afternoon to replace this failing hard disk.`
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`13:56.23`	`yoshimo`	`why did phanx change the layout of libboss-id? i dont think it was a matter of speed and think the layout with most recent entries at the end grouped by instance and basically sorting by id was better.`
`13:58.53`	`Fisker`	`robotusch men`
`14:00.30`	`Adirelle\|work`	`Fisker, when did you lose your pen* trailing dash ?`
`14:01.15`	`Fisker`	`i never lost it`
`14:01.19`	`Fisker`	`i just cut it off`
`14:01.21`	`asmodai`	`Adirelle\|work: rofl`
`14:01.51`	`SunTsu`	`So the Fisker now speaks even higher?`
`14:02.00`	`mitch0`	`"welcome to the Star Trek Online Beta Key Giveaway beta" <- seems the notification is beta, too :)`
`14:02.04`	`Adirelle\|work`	`on second thought, I should had written it "pen^H^H^H"`
`14:02.20`	`SunTsu`	`Adirelle\|work: which would be ""`
`14:02.41`	`Adirelle\|work`	`SunTsu, reality is so boring`
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`14:07.52`	`asmodai`	`http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002CYTL2 <-- check the comments`
`14:09.04`	`Grum`	`asmodai: so epic haha`
`14:25.19`	`sb\|work`	`oh eu armory is done`
`14:25.33`	`sb\|work`	`so i have to set up some rss spy parsers... :p`
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`14:29.13`	`Fisker`	`i keel u sb\|work or robotusch`
`14:31.25`	`sb\|work`	`okay`
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`14:35.59`	`asmodai`	`Mmm, looking at these benchmarks and tests I think I'll go for the Samsung F3`
`14:53.46`	`Xtek`	`Morning`
`14:53.54`	`asmodai`	`heya xtek`
`14:53.59`	`Xtek`	`hey`
`14:54.02`	`asmodai`	`Any less cold today?`
`14:54.07`	`Xtek`	`a little`
`14:54.10`	`Xtek`	`not wearing a jacket`
`14:54.23`	`Xtek`	`up to 65`
`14:58.35`	`krka`	`celcius?`
`14:58.46`	`krka`	`i wouldn't wear a jacket at 65 celcius either`
`14:59.08`	`pentium166`	`i don't think saunas even get that hot`
`14:59.11`	`Xtek`	`No, F.`
`14:59.17`	`SunTsu`	`krka: would you at celsius?`
`14:59.27`	`mitch0`	`F is stupid`
`14:59.41`	`krka`	`saunas get up to like 100 celcius`
`14:59.43`	`krka`	`atleast 80+`
`14:59.47`	`krka`	`not sure what the pros do`
`14:59.49`	`pentium166`	`100 celcius is when water boils`
`14:59.55`	`krka`	`i know!`
`15:00.01`	`krka`	`at normal pressure anyway`
`15:00.32`	`SunTsu`	`and only clean water`
`15:01.14`	`Fisker`	`no "your" stupid mitch0`
`15:01.26`	`ckknight`	`Fahrenheit makes sense in some ways`
`15:01.27`	`krka`	`i think water is more dangerous than air that the same hot temperature, due to heat transfer properties`
`15:01.44`	`mitch0`	`ckk: like?`
`15:01.49`	`pentium166`	`hmm, maybe`
`15:01.53`	`sb\|work`	`like in a "not making any sense"-way? :/`
`15:01.57`	`SunTsu`	`krka: steam is the main problem, condensating at your skin`
`15:02.14`	`mitch0`	`fisker: that remark was not about you (this time :)`
`15:02.43`	`ckknight`	`0 being the coldest it typically gets and 100 being the hottest it typically gets.`
`15:02.52`	`Fisker`	`i know mitch0`
`15:03.02`	`Fisker`	`but lolitrollu`
`15:03.15`	`mitch0`	`no you didn't`
`15:03.16`	`sb\|work`	`Resistance to the Celsius system was partly due to the larger size of each degree Celsius, resulting in the need for fractions, where integral Fahrenheit degrees were adequate for much technical work. The lower zero point in the Fahrenheit system reduced the number of negative signs when measurements such as weather data were averaged.`
`15:03.21`	`sb\|work`	`hmm`
`15:03.24`	`sb\|work`	`:o`
`15:03.45`	`mitch0`	`eh. all sound reasons :)`
`15:03.46`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( Let's all take Kelvin )`
`15:03.49`	`Fisker`	`sb\|work Translated: We're stupid`
`15:04.39`	`ckknight`	`Kelvin ftw`
`15:04.45`	`ckknight`	`it's a nice 300 K out today`
`15:04.46`	`ckknight`	`<.<`
`15:04.47`	`ckknight`	`>.>`
`15:04.52`	`Xtek`	`Nice!`
`15:05.01`	`balreign`	`approved`
`15:05.37`	`SunTsu`	`ckknight: it's just the next logical step. Everything is getting bigger and bigger, so, let's start with temperature ;)`
`15:05.46`	`ckknight`	`woo, America!`
`15:06.19`	`Xtek`	`Don't you mean Amerca?`
`15:07.01`	`SunTsu`	`and hey, no need to have negative degrees _ever_`
`15:07.20`	`mitch0`	`the history secion on the wikipedia article is like funny. especially the last paragraph (F)`
`15:07.33`	`mitch0`	`section even`
`15:09.29`	`ckknight`	`it seems kinda funny that America uses the imperial measuring system and fahrenheit where pretty much the rest of the world doesn't`
`15:09.36`	`ckknight`	`yet we fancy ourselves leader of the world`
`15:09.49`	`asmodai`	`or non-DIN paper sizes? :)`
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`15:10.01`	`asmodai`	`or substitute ISO for DIN`
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`15:10.30`	`SunTsu`	`ckknight: the question still is _where_ America leads to ;)`
`15:10.51`	`ckknight`	`slavery is freedom, SunTsu`
`15:10.54`	`ckknight`	`and war is peace`
`15:10.57`	`asmodai`	`this whole using inch for monitor sizes sucks too :(`
`15:11.02`	`ckknight`	`can't forget that.`
`15:11.22`	`ckknight`	`asmodai: clearly, we should just start measuring distance in cock sizes`
`15:11.26`	`asmodai`	`yes!`
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`15:11.41`	`ckknight`	`though the measurements of everything else seem to give lower numbers for me`
`15:11.43`	`ckknight`	`le sigh`
`15:11.49`	`asmodai`	`I'm sure Fisker would love to comment on that`
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`15:19.19`	`Mikk`	`SunTsu: funnily enough, we do experience the point where farenheit and celcius agrees on the temperature around here... and it's fairly negative...`
`15:20.05`	`asmodai`	`5 PST is 10 hours different from CET?`
`15:20.18`	`Repo`	`10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1194 Data/Paladin.lua:`
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`15:20.19`	`Mikk`	`9`
`15:20.20`	`Repo`	`- Apparently 2h weapon spec doesn't increase Retribution Aura damage - talent effect removed`
`15:20.36`	`asmodai`	`so at 20:00 tonight they'll do this twitter thing`
`15:20.44`	`mitch0`	`gagorian: could you nail down the crash thing?`
`15:20.47`	`Mikk`	`assuming we're not farting around in DST-differences territory`
`15:20.52`	`Mikk`	`but yeah most of the year it's 9 hours`
`15:21.01`	`nevcairiel`	`what twitter thing?`
`15:21.07`	`yoshimo`	`developer chat`
`15:21.24`	`asmodai`	`To get your question answered you will need to tweet a question with the #BlizzChat hashtag between 5:00pm and 6:00pm PST on Friday, January 15 2010.`
`15:21.35`	`nevcairiel`	`meh i hate how everyone is doing shit through twitter now .. i bet the masses will bring down twitter again`
`15:21.42`	`nevcairiel`	`its performance is already wonky without events`
`15:21.46`	`Fisker`	`i should set up a 100 twitter accounts`
`15:21.54`	`asmodai`	`similar to http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=127266`
`15:21.56`	`asmodai`	`Fisker: you wouldn't`
`15:21.57`	`Fisker`	`then go "#BlizzChat why so the cancer that's killing the internet?"`
`15:22.22`	`Fisker`	`unfortunately that would mean i'd have to use twitter`
`15:22.25`	`yoshimo`	`nev, i think chatting with them isnt a bad idea, but using twitter for that absolutely is`
`15:22.44`	`nevcairiel`	`I'm just against twitter, not the general idea`
`15:22.50`	`nevcairiel`	`twitter is no freaking chat platform`
`15:22.57`	`Fisker`	`i'm against both`
`15:23.05`	`mitch0`	`I'm against Fisker`
`15:23.18`	`nevcairiel`	`iirc they had something like that on IRC before, which was fine`
`15:23.23`	`asmodai`	`"Why do you continue this travesty called Arena and PvP?"`
`15:23.24`	`Fisker`	`good job mitch0`
`15:23.48`	`asmodai`	`mmm: with WoW's senior game producer and lead systems designer.`
`15:24.00`	`asmodai`	`tries to remember who those are nowadays`
`15:24.00`	`Fisker`	`besides asmodai`
`15:24.01`	`nevcairiel`	`who is that these days?`
`15:24.11`	`nevcairiel`	`some unknown name, i bet`
`15:24.15`	`arkanes`	`wow they're doing free realm transfers again`
`15:24.16`	`nevcairiel`	`I want tigole back`
`15:24.17`	`Fisker`	`You know that 90% of all questions will be spec, release date, etc. related`
`15:24.29`	`arkanes`	`been a while`
`15:24.31`	`pompy`	`prolly some apprentice ;p`
`15:24.34`	`Fisker`	`"So i heard you guys don't give any release dates LMAO but what is the release date for cataclysm kek?"`
`15:24.44`	`asmodai`	`Fisker: We need to provide a counter weight then! :)`
`15:25.16`	`Fisker`	`On the next Blizzcon the users viewing at home should have a "Punch in the face" option for Q&A sessions`
`15:25.34`	`Ackis`	`Fisker: I want that option for facebook :P and irc`
`15:25.51`	`Fisker`	`easy`
`15:25.56`	`Fisker`	`start punchinthefacebook.com`
`15:26.06`	`Fisker`	`and stop using the cancer that's killing the internet`
`15:26.39`	`arkanes`	`punchinthefacebook is a surprisingly good idea`
`15:26.39`	`nevcairiel`	`I should convince google to buy facebook and then shut it down`
`15:27.03`	`mitch0`	`first convince them to port gtalk to linux/bsd :)`
`15:27.12`	`arkanes`	`nevcairiel: even a hint that google might do it would make the stock soar, and spark a bidding war from microsoft`
`15:27.15`	`asmodai`	`mm, if it's the same people it will be Tom Chilton and J. Allen Brack`
`15:27.36`	`arkanes`	`mitch0: gtalk is just jabber, you can use almost any linux chat client with it`
`15:28.04`	`mitch0`	`except all those suck`
`15:28.21`	`mitch0`	`gtalk is clean and simple`
`15:28.22`	`arkanes`	`oh you actually like gtalk for itself?`
`15:28.23`	`arkanes`	`crazy`
`15:28.29`	`mitch0`	`:)`
`15:28.36`	`Fisker`	`lol wtf`
`15:28.38`	`nevcairiel`	`i just use pidgin and its fine, imho`
`15:28.50`	`arkanes`	`writing a chat client isn't hard`
`15:28.53`	`arkanes`	`you could do it in a week`
`15:28.53`	`nevcairiel`	`asmodai: meh, chilton is their pvp guy`
`15:28.54`	`mitch0`	`btw, does any of the "alternatives" proved gmail new-mail notification?`
`15:29.14`	`arkanes`	`theres some plugins`
`15:29.15`	`mitch0`	`provide even`
`15:29.23`	`arkanes`	`thats not actually part of the chat, it just polls your account`
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`15:29.55`	`asmodai`	`nevcairiel: which would suck :(`
`15:30.04`	`mitch0`	`oh yeah, and I gotta go thru an NTLM auth proxy, too :(`
`15:30.06`	`nevcairiel`	`its Kalgan, he is the pvp guy`
`15:30.17`	`asmodai`	`nevcairiel: I am scared about this whole "put the war back in warcraft" meme going around`
`15:30.23`	`arkanes`	`mitch0: theres one of those for linux too`
`15:30.33`	`nevcairiel`	`I can't find the nickname of j. allen brack`
`15:30.36`	`nevcairiel`	`google fails me`
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`15:30.54`	`arkanes`	`mitch0: little bit irritating to set up though`
`15:31.01`	`mitch0`	`APS?`
`15:31.07`	`arkanes`	`I think that was it`
`15:31.19`	`arkanes`	`I think pidgin actually has native support though`
`15:31.24`	`mitch0`	`yeah, I use that. though kopete doesn't support any sort of proxy anyway, so I gotta tunnel :(`
`15:31.55`	`pompy`	`nevcairiel: he doesnt have a nickname supposedly`
`15:32.11`	`pompy`	`http://www.cheap-wow-gold.eu/news.php?id=1617`
`15:32.16`	`pompy`	`oops`
`15:32.24`	`Fisker`	`gj pompy`
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`15:32.31`	`Fisker`	`what's your character and realm name?`
`15:32.33`	`pompy`	`its a g4tv thing`
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`15:32.59`	`Fisker`	`suuuuuuuuuuuuure`
`15:32.59`	`arkanes`	`cheap-wow-gold.eu is a g4tv thing?`
`15:33.31`	`pompy`	`dunno it had a news article`
`15:33.35`	`nevcairiel`	`if you look at facebooks own account on itself, its quite funny`
`15:33.42`	`nevcairiel`	`Facebook is on Facebook - Sign up for Facebook to connect with Facebook.`
`15:34.25`	`nevcairiel`	`Google is taking over Facebook - Spread the word!`
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`15:36.46`	`mojosdojo`	`nevcairiel: really?`
`15:37.20`	`nevcairiel`	`Would i make up something like that?`
`15:37.39`	`mojosdojo`	`dunno`
`15:37.44`	`mojosdojo`	`maybe? :P`
`15:38.33`	`Ackis`	`oh let me twitter that :P`
`15:39.07`	`pompy`	`~lart Ackis`
`15:39.07`	`purl`	`hooks into a hydrant and hoses Ackis down`
`15:40.12`	`nevcairiel`	`I should hack facebook and add some subtle google logos everywhere`
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`15:42.13`	`arkanes`	`doesn't google have a facebook entry?`
`15:42.26`	`arkanes`	`just post something like "I hear you guys might buy facebook" there`
`15:42.44`	`nevcairiel`	`that would require me actually having a facebook account`
`15:43.12`	`arkanes`	`I guess it all depends on how devoted you are to your evil scheme`
`15:43.25`	`nevcairiel`	`not enough to sign up on that evil page`
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`15:47.36`	`Fisker`	`So it's official`
`15:47.40`	`Fisker`	`Star Trek Online will fail`
`15:48.35`	`sb\|work`	`why? because you got beta access?`
`15:48.38`	`vhaarr`	`why, is it teh sux?`
`15:48.53`	`vhaarr`	`I'd say more because he DIDN'T get beta access`
`15:49.05`	`Fisker`	`naw`
`15:49.16`	`Fisker`	`they announced they're going to have lifetime subs`
`15:49.24`	`sb\|work`	`so... ?`
`15:49.32`	`Fisker`	`that means it's going to fail`
`15:49.40`	`Ackis`	`yup`
`15:49.44`	`Ackis`	`lifetime subs == fail`
`15:49.45`	`Ackis`	`:(`
`15:49.56`	`krka`	`basically pay once?`
`15:49.57`	`Ackis`	`mourns Hellgate.`
`15:49.59`	`krka`	`like guild wars?`
`15:50.11`	`Fisker`	`dunno`
`15:50.27`	`Fisker`	`it is a one-time subscription fee`
`15:50.34`	`Fisker`	`of $239 i believe`
`15:50.58`	`Fisker`	`which is probably equilivant to around 24 months of subscription with a rebate`
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`15:54.03`	`nevcairiel`	`didnt WAR do that as well?`
`15:54.13`	`nevcairiel`	`buy this box for >200 and never pay fees?`
`15:54.40`	`nevcairiel`	`companies just do that to get enough people to sign up, and have more money front loaded`
`15:54.57`	`Ackis`	`hellgate, champions online and sto are the only three I know of`
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`15:58.27`	`arkanes`	`theres been a bunch of others`
`15:58.30`	`arkanes`	`anarchy online had one`
`15:58.49`	`arkanes`	`generally when they do it its a sign that they need a lot of money to continute development`
`16:01.55`	`mitch0`	`fisker: got you nexus yet?`
`16:02.10`	`mitch0`	`your`
`16:02.13`	`Fisker`	`no`
`16:02.18`	`Fisker`	`my postal service fucking sucks`
`16:02.34`	`Fisker`	`it was on a plane yesterday to DK`
`16:02.57`	`mitch0`	`stop living in a cave :P`
`16:03.07`	`Fisker`	`but the danish postal service is like "wut package? we only got this at 2pm"`
`16:03.09`	`Fisker`	`suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure`
`16:05.27`	`olafski`	`wait.. you're been moaning for like a week about.. a phone?`
`16:07.41`	`Fisker`	`i never moan olafski`
`16:08.12`	`durcyn`	`fisker doesn't moan, that's what his mother does when i get done with her`
`16:08.23`	`durcyn`	`i'll be here all week, try the veal.`
`16:09.21`	`Megalon`	`mitch0: he lives in that cave for a good reason`
`16:10.10`	`sb\|work`	`btw cave - where is my wow magazine!`
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`16:13.56`	`Grum`	`is there an image-pasty orso that anyonw knows?`
`16:15.41`	`Ackis`	`olafski: he's been bitching about it too, not just moaning`
`16:16.05`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03pompachomp * r2802 / (4 files in 2 directories): some cleanup.`
`16:19.43`	`Repo`	`10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1195 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Added Thorns calculation`
`16:19.45`	`Repo`	`- Added flag to core to disable MPS display for Retribution Aura and Thorns`
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`16:22.35`	`steev`	`Grum: there used to be one around`
`16:23.00`	`Grum`	`yeah already found imgur.com orso which worked perfectly :)`
`16:23.41`	`steev`	`yeah, there was a different one somewhere too`
`16:23.51`	`steev`	`can't recall, but it was off somewhere in the eu i think`
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`16:49.52`	`Megalon`	`blizzard should throttle trade chat`
`16:49.57`	`Megalon`	`1 line per minute per player :C`
`16:50.40`	`yoshimo`	`yaiaps debug mode is spamming me with pallypowers prefix, can#t this addon be just silent when im alone at questing?^^`
`16:51.19`	`Megalon`	`it just prepares itself`
`16:51.25`	`Megalon`	`if you group with 4 paladins`
`16:51.38`	`Megalon`	`so it can instantanious setup all buffs!`
`16:51.42`	`Groktar`	`nibbles on Megalon's soul`
`16:52.52`	`Megalon`	`how does it taste, to nibble on nothing?`
`16:53.34`	`Groktar`	`feels empty`
`16:53.42`	`yoshimo`	`i dont think an addon should try to use the party chat if im not in a group ;)`
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`16:58.30`	`Megalon`	`we are never alone!`
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`17:05.34`	`Repo`	`2f607d6: Added mouseover module so I can transfer it to another computer`
`17:05.35`	`Repo`	`e021ece: Added configuration for mouseover tooltips, these might not stay in and they do not work yet`
`17:05.37`	`Repo`	`ebd69bc: Added a speedy version of gear summary that returns a percentage`
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`17:15.40`	`kadrahil`	`slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout`
`17:16.02`	`Fisker`	`slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout`
`17:21.35`	`asmodai`	`sets Fisker on fire`
`17:22.42`	`kadrahil`	`:(`
`17:22.46`	`Ackis`	`throws gas on Fisker`
`17:23.43`	`Megalon`	`throws up on Fisker`
`17:24.04`	`asmodai`	`So, bought the Samsung Spinpoint F3 hdd.`
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`17:25.19`	`Fisker`	`fail asmodai`
`17:25.56`	`asmodai`	`Oh not at all, you're burning nicely.`
`17:26.14`	`Fisker`	`talking about your fail hdds`
`17:26.16`	`Ackis`	`why so mean Megalon? that was crossing the line!`
`17:26.31`	`durcyn`	`would you like to see a picture of my 8 2tb disks i just ordered, Fisker`
`17:26.55`	`Ackis`	`s/8 2tb disks/penis/`
`17:27.08`	`asmodai`	`Ackis: keep it in the pants please`
`17:27.11`	`Fisker`	`are they spinpoints durcyn ?`
`17:27.12`	`durcyn`	`mail order penis? man, Ackis, you'd never leave the house.`
`17:27.22`	`kadrahil`	`12:25 <asmodai> Oh not at all, you're burning nicely.`
`17:27.23`	`kadrahil`	`rofl`
`17:27.25`	`Ackis`	`durcyn: mmmmm`
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`17:30.49`	`Ackis`	`hey Fisker how's your new phone?`
`17:35.29`	`Fisker`	`great`
`17:35.46`	`durcyn`	`my iphone 4 is going to be even better, fisker`
`17:36.22`	`kadrahil`	`my ipod touch is kaput`
`17:36.36`	`kadrahil`	`consistantly restarting itself every couple of minutes, and never booting past the apple boot logo`
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`17:36.44`	`kadrahil`	`so i put it into restore mode to try to do a restore`
`17:36.51`	`kadrahil`	`and after itunes prepares it for restore and restarts it`
`17:37.01`	`kadrahil`	`it can't connect back to itunes to transfer the restore software over`
`17:37.15`	`kadrahil`	`and the usb ports are fine, and i've tried it from multiple computers`
`17:37.21`	`kadrahil`	`:-(`
`17:38.20`	`Mikk`	`i might be stupid here but`
`17:38.28`	`Mikk`	`why does one want an ipod in this day and age`
`17:38.33`	`Mikk`	`just pop a flash stick into your phone?`
`17:38.37`	`kadrahil`	`because i listen to it in my jeep`
`17:38.39`	`kadrahil`	`when i travel`
`17:38.41`	`kadrahil`	`for 2+ hours at a time`
`17:38.47`	`Gagorian-`	`Pfft I have 3 iPod touches`
`17:39.04`	`nevcairiel`	`just get a radio in the car that can read usb sticks`
`17:39.04`	`Mikk`	`oh.. i should prolly mention that my car stereo takes usb sticks aswell`
`17:39.08`	`kadrahil`	`the thing that gets me is, why didn't they put a smallish 200mb partition on them to keep restore software on`
`17:39.29`	`kadrahil`	`instead of having to connect back to itunes after initiating the restore process to get the software from it`
`17:39.29`	`Gagorian-`	`Although the coca-cola company was kind enough to donate them to me :D`
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`17:40.36`	`Mikk`	`tbh if you need 200 megs for a handheld appliance firmware something is very wrong :P`
`17:40.47`	`kadrahil`	`well, i think it's more like 100 mb`
`17:41.08`	`kadrahil`	`which is not terrible when it's got 16gb of space on it`
`17:41.14`	`Mikk`	`fairy nuff`
`17:41.27`	`Mikk`	`just remembers his 64MB muvo`
`17:41.30`	`Mikk`	`it was huuuuge`
`17:41.40`	`nevcairiel`	`64mb was ever huge?`
`17:41.42`	`kadrahil`	`so now i have a dead ipod touch, i doubt an apple store could do anything different that i have already`
`17:41.59`	`nevcairiel`	`thats like 2 cds at high compression`
`17:42.02`	`nevcairiel`	`thats not even good`
`17:42.04`	`kadrahil`	`other than give me another one :P`
`17:42.17`	`Mikk`	`nevcairiel: it was the biggest available at the time :P`
`17:42.29`	`nevcairiel`	`probably even was the size of a cd player!`
`17:42.32`	`Gagorian-`	`kadrahil: Shouldn't they give you another one?`
`17:42.41`	`Mikk`	`nah actually size of a matchbox`
`17:42.44`	`kadrahil`	`Gagorian-: i'd hope so, i'm going by there tomorrow`
`17:42.50`	`nevcairiel`	`I had a mp3-cdplayer for quite some time`
`17:42.53`	`nevcairiel`	`that thing was handy`
`17:42.58`	`Gagorian`	`Call them applefags if they don't`
`17:43.05`	`arkanes`	`I had a 64mb muvo too`
`17:43.06`	`nevcairiel`	`700mb in mp3's and switchable .. that was great`
`17:43.07`	`arkanes`	`I loved that thing`
`17:43.08`	`kadrahil`	`they gave me a brand new macbook pro once`
`17:43.12`	`kadrahil`	`to replace a defective one i got`
`17:43.16`	`kadrahil`	`:P`
`17:43.18`	`Mikk`	`and yeah i ran 64kbits (mono) shit on it to get almost 3 cds onnit`
`17:43.21`	`kadrahil`	`3 years or so ago`
`17:43.35`	`nevcairiel`	`ew`
`17:43.47`	`kadrahil`	`the mbp i got from apple had a burned in image on the display a week after using it from where the OSX menu bar was`
`17:43.51`	`Mikk`	`well.. going stereo->mono halves the size without sacrificing too much :P`
`17:44.05`	`kadrahil`	`i took it to the apple store and they just went in the back, got out a brand new mbp`
`17:44.09`	`arkanes`	`I chopped the bitrate down to like 2 also`
`17:44.09`	`haste`	`imo stereo -> mono completely crushes the sound image`
`17:44.10`	`kadrahil`	`transferred my files over and gave it to me`
`17:44.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i hope you mean at least joint stereo`
`17:44.23`	`kadrahil`	`talks to himself`
`17:44.24`	`Mikk`	`yuck joint stereo`
`17:44.29`	`nevcairiel`	`better then mono!`
`17:44.31`	`Mikk`	`no`
`17:44.34`	`Mikk`	`it really isnt`
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`17:45.26`	`Mikk`	`well ok i take that back halfways`
`17:45.33`	`Mikk`	`i never found a joint stereo encoder that didnt make things sound bleh`
`17:45.48`	`nevcairiel`	`could be the decoder, too`
`17:46.00`	`nevcairiel`	`or a combination of both`
`17:46.04`	`Mikk`	`possibly i guess`
`17:46.19`	`Mikk`	`and yeah mono is boring but it doesnt cause oddly jumpy sound images`
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`17:46.53`	`Mikk`	`and tbh it's the same that you get from your average stereo system unless you're smack in the middle of the speakers`
`17:47.20`	`nevcairiel`	`well with headphones that works`
`17:47.25`	`Mikk`	`nods`
`17:47.39`	`nevcairiel`	`and i try to have the stuff positioned properly in my room for my chair to have proper sound`
`17:47.41`	`nevcairiel`	`but mostly for movies`
`17:48.20`	`Mikk`	`anyway yeah`
`17:48.30`	`Mikk`	`4 gig stick - pop into phone - phone has stereo headset`
`17:48.30`	`Mikk`	`win`
`17:48.58`	`nevcairiel`	`i wonder if my phone could actually do that if i managed to plug a usb stick into the micro-usb port`
`17:49.07`	`nevcairiel`	`but then again, it has a 16gig mem card in it already`
`17:49.15`	`Mikk`	`should be enuf yeah ;)`
`17:49.28`	`Fisker`	`wat Mikk?`
`17:51.37`	`Gagorian`	`mono in 2010 isn't really acceptable :p`
`17:51.53`	`nevcairiel`	`encoders should just laugh at you when you try to encode in mono`
`17:53.27`	`Mikk`	`Gagorian: this was more like 2002 ;)`
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`17:53.46`	`Gagorian`	`Well make that 2000 then`
`17:53.48`	`pentium166`	`podcasts with no music need stereo?`
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`17:54.05`	`nevcairiel`	`yes, please`
`17:54.39`	`Mikk`	`i'm convinced that listening to shit music in mono removes half the pain!`
`17:54.46`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`17:54.51`	`nevcairiel`	`how about .. not listening!`
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`17:54.59`	`Mikk`	`stop being logical :P`
`17:55.20`	`vhaarr`	`that's what I do if I'm in a disco, I just plug out a random speaker so the music doesn't annoy me as much`
`17:55.30`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`17:55.36`	`Mikk`	`awesome idea`
`17:55.46`	`nevcairiel`	`why do you go there then anyway?`
`17:55.50`	`vhaarr`	`yeah it actually works because I often proceed to getting thrown out`
`17:56.05`	`vhaarr`	`I get dragged on occasion by people who are different than me`
`17:56.10`	`vhaarr`	`you never do?`
`17:56.14`	`nevcairiel`	`always those different people`
`17:56.31`	`nevcairiel`	`mm yeah, sometimes`
`17:56.38`	`nevcairiel`	`but i usually live through it with enough beer or something`
`17:56.41`	`Mikk`	`yeah getting dragged out to disco is when the night goes wrong`
`17:56.45`	`Mikk`	`much better before that`
`17:56.54`	`vhaarr`	`I try to convince them "we can have fun just staying at home and drinking!", but they go "fuck that, we need to hit the town!"`
`17:57.03`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah i don't get that`
`17:57.05`	`vhaarr`	`fucking cityslickers`
`17:57.07`	`Mikk`	`either`
`17:57.20`	`Mikk`	`i always did have more fun at the before- and after parties :P`
`17:57.26`	`vhaarr`	`yes _always_`
`17:57.30`	`nevcairiel`	`at least on new years eve i managed to get around that, hitting the town just involved running around in the cold for 4 hours`
`17:57.45`	`nevcairiel`	`was more fun then going some crowded place`
`17:57.46`	`nevcairiel`	`:P`
`17:58.23`	`vhaarr`	`yeah same here, a friend of mine wasn't so lucky, he still complains about it`
`17:58.38`	`vhaarr`	`"and then I got dragged down to town and it was fucking -10 degrees, freezing my ass off for 3 hours, NEVER AGAIN"`
`17:59.10`	`vhaarr`	`I mean, step out of wherever you are, grab a cigar and launch some fireworks`
`17:59.11`	`Mikk`	`idk.. hitting crowded places with no tables == everyone disappears off into the crowd in different directions going "wahaaa you're here too! great meeting you! this place rocks!" to new people for 3 hours`
`17:59.13`	`vhaarr`	`then get the fuck back inside`
`17:59.44`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah, sucks if you're the one that got dragged, and you don't know other people in there`
`17:59.56`	`vhaarr`	`I'm always that person :P`
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`18:00.08`	`Mikk`	`oh i'd know enough people to do that if i wanted`
`18:00.13`	`Mikk`	`just didnt find it fun in any way whatsoever :P`
`18:00.17`	`vhaarr`	`unless I'm in a group of geeks hitting the town, but eh`
`18:00.20`	`vhaarr`	`how often does that happen`
`18:00.36`	`nevcairiel`	`once a year for me, usually`
`18:00.41`	`nevcairiel`	`after the c3 congress :P`
`18:01.13`	`Mikk`	`now, a bar, with actual tables, and a good selection of drinks`
`18:01.20`	`Mikk`	`with music that isnt loud enough for you to talk`
`18:01.22`	`Mikk`	`that i can do`
`18:01.30`	`vhaarr`	`I am going to this girl tomorrow, and I am so sure like around 23 or so she will start bitching "lets hit the town!"`
`18:01.37`	`vhaarr`	`I am already planning tactics to get around it`
`18:01.45`	`vhaarr`	`so far I came up with "get her too drunk so she can't walk"`
`18:01.49`	`vhaarr`	`but then I forgot about cabs`
`18:01.56`	`nevcairiel`	`I dont think i know any girl that wouldnt be like that`
`18:01.58`	`arkanes`	`abuse her naughty bits`
`18:02.05`	`arkanes`	`until she doesn't feel like walking`
`18:02.20`	`nevcairiel`	`they all like going out`
`18:02.39`	`Mikk`	`i used to know one actually`
`18:02.43`	`vhaarr`	`Mikk: yeah of course there are plenty of places like that here, but noone wants to go there that are even remotely close to my age group :p`
`18:03.19`	`nevcairiel`	`we have a nice irish pub here, luckily i know some other guys that like going there, too =P`
`18:03.25`	`Mikk`	`last company party we just skipped the hitting town bit and copied our butts n stuff`
`18:03.31`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
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`18:04.10`	`vhaarr`	`I saw somewhere recently that the christmas holidays are the most hectic times to be a copymachine repair guy`
`18:04.15`	`Mikk`	`lmao`
`18:04.15`	Funkeh`	`anyone got a link handy with the entire 5xxx ati comparison`
`18:04.23`	`vhaarr`	`and it wasn't just ass copying`
`18:04.28`	Funkeh`	`i can only seem to find comparisons of 2 or 3`
`18:04.30`	`vhaarr`	`people had put CATS into the machinery`
`18:04.32`	`vhaarr`	`and snakes`
`18:04.33`	`vhaarr`	`wtf?!`
`18:04.45`	`arkanes`	`I would totally photcopy a cat`
`18:04.47`	`vhaarr`	`"lets see if he fits guys, common itllbegreat!"`
`18:04.51`	`vhaarr`	`no no`
`18:04.54`	`vhaarr`	`in the _machinery_, arkanes`
`18:04.57`	`arkanes`	`I know wht you meant`
`18:05.01`	`vhaarr`	`not the copy platter`
`18:05.10`	`arkanes`	`I'm just saying, photocopying a cat sounds awesome`
`18:05.25`	`Mikk`	`i agree!`
`18:05.27`	`arkanes`	`snakes could easily be non-intentional`
`18:05.31`	`nevcairiel`	`we should do an anual #wowace bar hitting tour in $randomEUtown, i would totally go there =P`
`18:05.41`	`arkanes`	`the litte bastards get into the most surprising places`
`18:05.55`	`vhaarr`	`you know if it was $random we could end up like eh, Iceland`
`18:06.14`	`Mikk`	`reykjavik has a good selection of pubs`
`18:06.16`	`arkanes`	`place a worked a while ago there was this high level conference call where all the local bosses were talking to the corporate execs about something important like salary caps or layoffs or something`
`18:06.21`	`Mikk`	`for being so small`
`18:06.32`	`arkanes`	`and a snake fell out of the suspended ceiling right onto the speaker phone`
`18:06.35`	`vhaarr`	`some french guy said it's the trendsetter place of the world`
`18:06.43`	`vhaarr`	`people dress so freaky because they have nothing better to do anyway`
`18:06.46`	`arkanes`	`the corporate people thought there was a terrorist attack or something`
`18:06.48`	`Mikk`	`heh`
`18:06.53`	`Mikk`	`x2`
`18:09.01`	`arkanes`	`bertrand meyer is kind of a douche`
`18:11.12`	`winkiller`	`I've heard that name`
`18:11.24`	`asmodai`	`50 more minutes before the tweets start :P`
`18:11.29`	`arkanes`	`hes a guy`
`18:11.38`	`arkanes`	`created the programming language Eiffel`
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`18:18.02`	`winkiller`	`ah ea`
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`18:47.16`	`Groktar`	`is on a boat`
`18:47.26`	`arkanes`	`Groktar: hooray`
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`18:51.57`	`asmodai`	`http://tweetscan.com/index.php?s=%23BlizzChat&site=&de=1`
`18:52.03`	`asmodai`	`this makes me want to cut my wrists`
`18:53.02`	`arkanes`	`I don't see too much particularly bad there`
`18:53.32`	`arkanes`	`but then I read the official forums, so perhaps I have a heavier soul-callous than you do`
`18:54.07`	`asmodai`	`heh`
`18:54.17`	`asmodai`	`EU or US fora?`
`18:54.21`	`arkanes`	`us`
`18:54.25`	`asmodai`	`I pity you.`
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`18:54.31`	`arkanes`	`I don't care about you nutty foreign bastards`
`18:54.35`	`nevcairiel`	`reading eu forums is even worse`
`18:54.41`	`asmodai`	`nevcairiel: I find US ones worse.`
`18:54.47`	`nevcairiel`	`same amount of QQ and stupid people`
`18:54.52`	`nevcairiel`	`less competent blue posts`
`18:56.23`	`arkanes`	`see, this is what I'm talking about:`
`18:56.24`	`arkanes`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12227863742&sid=1`
`18:56.30`	`arkanes`	`(eu forums, via a blue tracker)`
`18:56.39`	`arkanes`	`this is far, far worse than anything in the twitter feed :P`
`18:57.19`	`yoshimo`	`what does primordial saronite cost on your servers?`
`18:57.34`	`arkanes`	`last time I saw anyone bothering to try to sell it, it was under 2k`
`18:58.01`	`nevcairiel`	`it was really high the first few days, but went down fast`
`18:58.04`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure whats it at now`
`18:58.05`	`arkanes`	`I would have thought it would spike when fester and rotface became available, but either it didnt or it went back down fast`
`18:59.15`	`asmodai`	`yoshimo: saw someone trying to trade Battered Hilt for 6-7 primordial saronite the other day :) (or the other way around)`
`19:00.50`	`CrazyBenny`	`hmm...primordial saronite is still going for 2,5k...but then again stuff on our server was always more expensive than average :S`
`19:01.39`	`asmodai`	`saw Glacial bags for 2k-3k :\|`
`19:02.22`	`Mikk`	`oooookay`
`19:02.36`	`Mikk`	`a guildie has http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=69558 stuck on him`
`19:02.39`	`Mikk`	`without a timer`
`19:02.53`	`asmodai`	`hahaha`
`19:02.57`	`asmodai`	`happy times!`
`19:03.10`	`Mikk`	`he's making threats as to what will happen if we fail to keep him alive`
`19:03.13`	`asmodai`	`He now says " ME SMASH "`
`19:03.36`	`asmodai`	`Well, he has to log out at one point ;)`
`19:04.04`	`nevcairiel`	`according to wowhead that thing doesnt have a duration`
`19:04.26`	`nevcairiel`	`so yeah .. is it supposed to be applied to players? :D`
`19:04.40`	`Shadowics`	`He could stay logged in until next reset.. hypothetically..`
`19:05.38`	`Shadowics`	`It's not supposed to be cast on players, it stacks on the big oozes when it absorbs little oozes`
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`19:07.51`	`Mikk`	`haha died on trash`
`19:11.41`	`yoshimo`	`CrazyBenny , the saronite is expensive because recipes need it, and i think it wont get better any time soon`
`19:11.52`	`yoshimo`	`shadowmourne will take a lot of farming`
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`19:21.28`	`Antiarc`	`Our DK already has his shadow's edge and like 300 of his 1k kills`
`19:23.22`	`Fisker`	`k`
`19:24.07`	`Grum`	`same, 226 left for ours`
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`19:24.24`	`Groktar`	`our first person finished his`
`19:24.29`	`Groktar`	`and the other guy needs about 200`
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`19:24.43`	`NivFreak`	`wtf`
`19:24.47`	`NivFreak`	`did the farm trash for it?`
`19:24.49`	`NivFreak`	`they*`
`19:24.50`	`Groktar`	`lol yeah`
`19:24.53`	`Antiarc`	`Ours didn't, no`
`19:25.03`	`Antiarc`	`We just pop geist traps for him :V`
`19:25.03`	`NivFreak`	`because we got our fury warrior one the first reset`
`19:25.04`	`Groktar`	`we finished up most people's rep grind at the same time`
`19:25.09`	`NivFreak`	`and he's at maybe 400?`
`19:25.12`	`NivFreak`	`297`
`19:25.18`	`Grum`	`ofc? :P`
`19:25.28`	`Groktar`	`i got exalted on the same trash clear the dk got his 1000`
`19:25.28`	`Grum`	`wtf first reset?`
`19:25.28`	`NivFreak`	`I guess we may have run 10man first`
`19:25.53`	`NivFreak`	`first reset of festergut/rotface`
`19:27.24`	`Stanzilla`	`what happens after the 1000 souls step?`
`19:27.33`	`Grum`	`you ahve to use the abom on the weapon`
`19:27.33`	`Groktar`	`you need to eat 3 slimes on putricide`
`19:27.55`	`Groktar`	`and then kill the boss`
`19:28.09`	`Groktar`	`and then you have to do blood queen a certain way`
`19:28.35`	`Groktar`	`so next week we'll do blood queen first`
`19:28.40`	`Antiarc`	`Man, arthas had it easy.`
`19:28.50`	`Antiarc`	`Touch sword, get legendary`
`19:28.50`	`Groktar`	`and then if we have attempts left we'll do a 10m so he can practice abom`
`19:28.53`	`Groktar`	`and then do it on 25`
`19:28.59`	`Groktar`	`so he can get blood queen the week after`
`19:30.29`	`NivFreak`	`I'm wondering if I should buy some saronite`
`19:30.37`	`NivFreak`	`I don't think we have more than 3 people who want blood`
`19:30.49`	`NivFreak`	`so we'll probably just start giving them out`
`19:30.49`	`Groktar`	`ya, it's an every week thing`
`19:30.56`	`Groktar`	`the blod is`
`19:30.59`	`Groktar`	`*blood`
`19:31.06`	`NivFreak`	`yea, so I'm tempted to make one for my offspec`
`19:31.11`	`NivFreak`	`but 25PS is still a bit ;)`
`19:31.19`	`Groktar`	`we gave it to a ret this week because he had saronites`
`19:31.27`	`NivFreak`	`same`
`19:31.32`	`Groktar`	`not because he needed it the most`
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`19:42.04`	`koaschten`	`Is there a way to make chatter go by rank to do the alt association?`
`19:42.48`	`Groktar`	`what totems would an ele shaman drop if they have a demo lock in the raid?`
`19:43.25`	`Pneumatus`	`magma or fire elemental`
`19:44.13`	`Pneumatus`	`fire elemental on pretty much every boss`
`19:44.24`	`Groktar`	`trying to figure out how to see which totems he dropped on world of logs`
`19:44.49`	`Fisker`	`@project blessed`
`19:44.50`	`Repo`	`Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 days ago`
`19:47.56`	`koaschten`	`tsk Antiarc is slacking? 10 days without update?`
`19:48.07`	`Antiarc`	`Antiarc is doing paying work`
`19:48.50`	`nevcairiel`	`addon work pays!`
`19:49.03`	`koaschten`	`(your wow subscription at least hopefully)`
`19:55.28`	`Antiarc`	`It does, yeah`
`19:55.31`	`Antiarc`	`But not enough to make rent :P`
`19:55.53`	`Antiarc`	`Addon work is my hobby expenses slush fund`
`20:00.19`	`Groktar`	`blizzard equipment manager won't put gear in the bank?`
`20:00.20`	`Groktar`	`:(`
`20:02.17`	`Groktar`	`oh people wrote mods for that`
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`20:02.46`	`arkanes`	`outfitter can use your blizzard eq sets`
`20:02.54`	`arkanes`	`as well as all the functionality it has always had`
`20:03.11`	`Groktar`	`orly`
`20:06.15`	`Fisker`	`it's fail that they didn't have equipment sets support for teh armory`
`20:07.54`	`Groktar`	`how do i make it put stuff in the bank`
`20:07.56`	`Groktar`	`heh`
`20:08.00`	`Fisker`	`slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout`
`20:08.05`	`arkanes`	`Groktar: right click on the set`
`20:08.17`	`arkanes`	`Groktar: theres a menu option to put/withdraw the set from the bank`
`20:08.44`	`Groktar`	`ya just found that`
`20:08.53`	`Groktar`	`cool, this would work`
`20:09.17`	`Groktar`	`i was going insane with outfitter bugging out on titan's grip`
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`20:10.56`	`Groktar`	`http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ez71wx1d7cungg0w/deaths/?s=12775&e=13299`
`20:10.58`	`Groktar`	`anshen is our gm`
`20:11.05`	`Groktar`	`we made him give GM to aether`
`20:11.13`	`Groktar`	`and we demoted him to a rank that can't speak in gchat`
`20:11.34`	`arkanes`	`we have a special rank for those people`
`20:11.38`	`arkanes`	`it's called "firestander"`
`20:12.33`	`arkanes`	`zealous got killed by chocking gas and slime though?`
`20:12.39`	`arkanes`	`thats even worse than a bouncing betty`
`20:14.00`	`Groktar`	`we tried to res him a third time`
`20:14.02`	`Groktar`	`but he was afk`
`20:14.10`	`arkanes`	`haha`
`20:14.45`	`Groktar`	`oh wait`
`20:14.49`	`Groktar`	`we ressed him once`
`20:15.01`	`Groktar`	`he was ressed in the goo`
`20:17.08`	`\|ncubus`	`what was fun was rank 1 brez into ragnaros' lava pool.`
`20:17.38`	`steev`	`its hard to tell what most people are doing wrong in our attempts cuz once we call wipe it they pretty much try to die as lamely as possible`
`20:19.30`	`steev`	`[21:12:32.415] Professor Putricide hits Steev 30230 (O: 254565)`
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`20:20.13`	`Neurox`	`Our mages die too much >.< had him at 50k and our tank dies and he heals to 2.5m`
`20:20.34`	`steev`	`we have too many die to malleable goo`
`20:20.39`	`steev`	`http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/2lf5y7c2m63ucntk/deaths/?s=4096&e=4709`
`20:20.41`	`Neurox`	`hate fights that have that mechanic, where someone dies and it's over`
`20:21.09`	`Neurox`	`malleable goo is just like the add explosion on Rotface`
`20:21.34`	`Neurox`	`guess putricide's happens so much though people get tunnel vision and miss it`
`20:21.57`	`steev`	`malleable goo is the stuff that bounces`
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`20:22.17`	`steev`	`but yeah, we have a lot of tunnel visioners`
`20:24.11`	`steev`	`i died to it on 2 out of 9 attempts :/ (9 because one was wasted when i accidentally hit shift+t while having the boss targetted)`
`20:24.27`	`Neurox`	`shift t?`
`20:24.33`	`steev`	`pet attack apparently`
`20:24.40`	`Neurox`	`lol`
`20:24.44`	`steev`	`although the pet bar shows ctrl+1!`
`20:24.51`	`steev`	`would be nice if it showed both of those`
`20:24.59`	`Groktar`	`putricide isn't over if someone dies`
`20:25.03`	`steev`	`it has since been rebound to my bone shield macro`
`20:25.06`	`steev`	`Groktar: it is on p3`
`20:25.11`	`Pneumatus`	`putricide is only over if a tank dies p3`
`20:25.15`	`Groktar`	`^`
`20:25.19`	`Neurox`	`Which is what happened`
`20:25.19`	`Pneumatus`	`and even then its not always over`
`20:25.26`	`steev`	`one of our tanks died in p3`
`20:25.34`	`steev`	`so he got a brez`
`20:25.37`	`Neurox`	`everyone else died too`
`20:25.41`	`Neurox`	`except a few of us`
`20:25.43`	`steev`	`then we lost a ton more people`
`20:25.43`	`Groktar`	`ya, if a tank died with or 2 stacks it's not the end of the world`
`20:26.04`	`Neurox`	`he was at 50k so however many stacks the tank should have had then :p`
`20:26.23`	`Groktar`	`hehe`
`20:26.52`	`Pneumatus`	`at 50k, probably 4 each`
`20:26.59`	`Groktar`	`checks`
`20:26.59`	`Pneumatus`	`maybe even 5`
`20:27.24`	`Neurox`	`and how much dmg does that deal?`
`20:28.12`	`Pneumatus`	`5 stacks is like 15k per tick or something stupid`
`20:28.45`	`Groktar`	`glor had 5 and the other tanks each had 3`
`20:29.00`	`Pneumatus`	`someone should have taunted at 4 :<`
`20:29.11`	`Groktar`	`yeah`
`20:29.13`	`Groktar`	`that's fail`
`20:29.25`	`Groktar`	`it's really hard to tell since worloflogs won't break it down`
`20:29.34`	`Groktar`	`won't tell me what the max hit was`
`20:30.19`	`Neurox`	`ye WoL doesn't do maximums, just counts and averages`
`20:30.42`	`arkanes`	`I'd really like a time limiting factor for WoL`
`20:30.57`	`arkanes`	`like min/max/avg/count hits for just the times when fester is at 3 stacks`
`20:31.18`	`Groktar`	`ethics "i can't see target of target debuffs"`
`20:31.33`	`arkanes`	`I don't think stockui has that`
`20:31.35`	`Groktar`	`well, it will tell you mins/maxes on some stuff`
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`20:38.16`	`Groktar`	`he says he just sets the targettarget as his focus when he needs to see targettarget auras`
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`20:41.30`	`AndChat\|`	`Morning all`
`20:42.03`	`Groktar`	`nibbles on AndChat\|'s face`
`20:42.20`	`orionshock-droid`	`Morning all again`
`20:42.20`	`Groktar`	`oh`
`20:42.23`	`Groktar`	`hi`
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`20:53.36`	`Repo`	`10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.3.3 * r720 : Tagging as v3.3.3`
`20:53.38`	`Repo`	`- Fixes for the dGuid error`
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`21:03.02`	`Neurox`	`hmm so I want to reset my password for a wowace account so I do the whole forgotten your password? thing and I get the email which says to follow this link, then it takes me back to the wowace login page without giving me any new password`
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`21:10.16`	`koaschten`	`http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/oZKT9OiHitI/jules-verne-was-almost-right`
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`21:15.52`	`steev`	`http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd94/fister76/maybellinesu4.jpg`
`21:16.20`	`CrazyBenny`	`lol`
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`21:36.27`	`Pneumatus`	`i laughed, hard`
`21:36.34`	`Pneumatus`	`but couldn't bring myself to relink it`
`21:38.28`	`steev`	`too bad`
`21:38.41`	`steev`	`i need more friends in hell when i get there :(`
`21:40.03`	`steev`	`bleh, i should just call blizz`
`21:40.08`	`steev`	`i want to do this all in one step, not 2`
`21:40.24`	`steev`	`server+faction trans`
`21:40.32`	`arkanes`	`gasp`
`21:40.45`	`steev`	`what?`
`21:41.02`	`arkanes`	`faction transer!`
`21:41.19`	`steev`	`better than a faction tranny?`
`21:41.32`	`arkanes`	`maybe just barely`
`21:42.07`	`steev`	`but... horde is so much better than alliance :(`
`21:42.14`	`arkanes`	`it is true`
`21:42.26`	`arkanes`	`if you were going the other way, I'd be calling you much worse names than tranny-lover :P`
`21:42.49`	`steev`	`truth`
`21:43.20`	`steev`	`alliance t9 gear looks horrendous`
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`21:43.38`	`arkanes`	`very true`
`21:43.47`	`arkanes`	`and the horde plate in particular is pretty nice`
`21:44.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`Neurox: are you doing this from the forums?`
`21:44.29`	`Groktar`	`i thought my nelf female warrior looked cute in t9`
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`21:45.23`	`quiescens`	`for teh horde`
`21:45.46`	`steev`	`Groktar: try being a dk alliance in t9`
`21:45.49`	`steev`	`sucks balls`
`21:45.56`	`steev`	`look like a shitty ret pally`
`21:45.59`	`Torhal_`	`CrazyBenny: Did the latest ARL alpha fix your issue?`
`21:46.10`	`asmodai`	`torhal!`
`21:46.15`	`steev`	`look at me everyone, i'm a death knight and i've got a light bulb on my helm lololol`
`21:46.18`	`Torhal`	`asmodai: ZOMG`
`21:46.31`	`asmodai`	`Torhal: really, when you said wtf, it was wtf`
`21:46.43`	`arkanes`	`horde t9 leather looks pretty bad on rogues`
`21:46.59`	`Torhal`	`asmodai: Definitely`
`21:47.00`	`CrazyBenny`	`Torhal_: aye, thanks :)`
`21:47.04`	`arkanes`	`"hey, I'm so sneaky that I stole some backup lights off a forklift and stuck them on my armor"`
`21:47.05`	`Torhal`	`CrazyBenny: Good deal`
`21:47.13`	`asmodai`	`Torhal: wtf did they even sneak that episode in.`
`21:47.35`	`Torhal`	`asmodai: No clue. I thought the "unaired episodes" always hit the season DVD`
`21:48.08`	`asmodai`	`For a minute or two I was like: eh, have I seen this before?`
`21:48.16`	`Torhal`	`Haha`
`21:50.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`what are you talking about?`
`21:50.38`	`Groktar`	`i wish i could send postal's messages to a different chat frame`
`21:50.49`	`Torhal`	`Arrowmaster: Last week's Fringe`
`21:51.21`	`steev`	`f me, i'm at that point of my gearing where i have to hoard the gear cuz i can't replace it yet`
`21:51.46`	`Fisker`	`damnit Torhal that's old`
`21:52.01`	`Torhal`	`Fisker: asmodai brought it up, slut.`
`21:52.05`	`steev`	`Fisker: UR OLD`
`21:53.07`	`Neurox`	`Arrowmaster: I start at wowace.com/home/login/ put my email address in and press the button, I get the email and it just sends me back there`
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`21:53.39`	`Neurox`	`oh, the 2nd time it worked...`
`21:53.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`Neurox: ok no clue then, just asked because if you tried to do it from the forums that is a seperate system`
`21:54.35`	`Neurox`	`odd, the first email just had a link back to the login, but now I look at the first one again and it has no link and a new password wtf`
`21:56.22`	`Neurox`	`hmm 4 emails from curse, 2 just have a link, the other 2 have new passwords but neither work, awsum`
`21:56.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`try doing it from curse.com`
`21:57.01`	`Neurox`	`curse.com doesn't work for me`
`21:57.19`	`Neurox`	`for some reason my connection only downloads ~100kb from it before stopping`
`21:57.23`	`Arrowmaster`	`i got nothing then`
`21:57.23`	`Neurox`	`I've no clue why`
`21:58.26`	`arkanes`	`maybe you have something loggin' yer keys`
`21:58.43`	`Neurox`	`orly`
`21:58.54`	`Fisker`	`why did you call me a slut Torhal? :(`
`21:58.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats probably why its not working though, all the login stuff goes through auth.curse.com`
`21:59.33`	`Neurox`	`I deleted all the emails I had and did it again, already got the one with the link, guess I'm just waiting on the one with the password :s`
`21:59.42`	`Torhal`	`Fisker: You aren't?`
`21:59.50`	`Neurox`	`Weird way of doing things`
`22:10.39`	`Fisker`	`i don't think so Torhal`
`22:11.02`	`steev`	`so`
`22:11.16`	`steev`	`what happens if you do a faction transfer while in the middle of your previous faction's home city?`
`22:11.21`	`steev`	`do you log in flagged?`
`22:11.27`	`winkiller`	`does it really matter?`
`22:12.36`	`steev`	`not really`
`22:14.45`	`Torhal`	`Fisker: But you have an uncertainty?`
`22:14.47`	`Pneumatus`	`you start off in your new factions home city afaik`
`22:17.31`	`steev`	`the new blacksmithing patterns from ICC - are they just 1 primordial saronite to buy?`
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`22:18.49`	`winkiller`	`not sure if all`
`22:18.51`	`winkiller`	`but some are`
`22:20.07`	`steev`	`i keep wanting to call Deathwing, Darkwing`
`22:20.55`	`winkiller`	`hehe`
`22:24.50`	`Fisker`	`it's your fault though steev`
`22:25.17`	`onaforeignshore`	`as in Duck? :p`
`22:25.26`	`Fisker`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375ENQbru8s`
`22:25.43`	`Fisker`	`most awesomest disney cartoon evar`
`22:27.28`	`onaforeignshore`	`Let's get dangerous`
`22:29.49`	`ckknight`	`I wish Lua had a better type system`
`22:30.35`	`harl`	`how do i ignore players from other realms`
`22:30.47`	`ckknight`	`as in actually being able to say that a function takes arguments of specific types`
`22:30.48`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`22:31.37`	`Fisker`	`harl /ignore`
`22:31.54`	`Fisker`	`<-successful troll`
`22:32.00`	`Fisker`	`anyways /ignore player-realm`
`22:32.21`	`harl`	`well, yes`
`22:33.28`	`asmodai`	`throws a red herring at Fisker`
`22:33.34`	`Fisker`	`do it`
`22:40.04`	`CrazyBenny`	`they should nerf 25men Saurfang so we can pug it :(`
`22:40.10`	`asmodai`	`I wouldn't.`
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`22:42.06`	`NeoTron`	`CrazyBenny: no they shouldn't.`
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`22:46.39`	`CrazyBenny`	`:(`
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`22:51.49`	`winkiller`	`535 resilience is not exactly state of the art anymore I guess?`
`22:53.27`	`pompy`	`winkiller: no, more like 1200 or so`
`22:53.28`	`NeoTron`	`compared to the previous tier, ICC is pug unfriendly`
`22:53.29`	`NeoTron`	`lots of complicated fights`
`22:53.29`	`NeoTron`	`and tougher dps requirements overall`
`22:53.30`	`CrazyBenny`	`over 800 seems good for starters ;)`
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`22:53.30`	`winkiller`	`:(`
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`22:53.33`	`CrazyBenny`	`yes`
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`22:53.55`	`winkiller`	`I have nearly full Hateful`
`22:54.05`	`winkiller`	`not used for half a year or more though`
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`22:54.26`	`CrazyBenny`	`its easy to get a group of friends to do the 10men icecrown, but guess thats about it without proper raiding`
`22:55.02`	`arkanes`	`the foyer of ICC is easily puggable`
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`22:55.16`	`arkanes`	`especially on 10, since the nerfs`
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`22:55.44`	`arkanes`	`plagueworks is a substantial increase in difficulty, I'd imagine it's impossible for a true pug formed of random people from trade chat`
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`22:56.45`	`CrazyBenny`	`I ment 25 ;)`
`22:56.45`	`arkanes`	`well, 25 too`
`22:56.48`	`arkanes`	`icc25 is regulary pugged on my server`
`22:56.55`	`winkiller`	`uhm`
`22:57.05`	`winkiller`	`is new armory lacking arena info now?`
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`22:57.08`	`arkanes`	`(the first 4 of course)`
`22:57.09`	`winkiller`	`or am I just blind?`
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`23:00.02`	`CrazyBenny`	`here you cant expect people to not get hit by beasts or even keep the distance on saurfang :(`
`23:00.15`	`steev`	`boo`
`23:00.21`	`steev`	`it changes the date of most of yoru achieves to the day of the transfer :(`
`23:00.22`	`steev`	`in good news, i earned merrymaker today :-P`
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`23:19.19`	`Repo`	`- Make sure AllPlayed works properly if there is no SaveVariabled table define yet (first time load)`
`23:19.20`	`Repo`	`- Fix 9 - 30300-2-beta-3 does not work the first time`
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