| 00:00.50 | SunTsu | it even looks good with haunt and DoTs up, a little bit more variance in it, but not that way off the poster said |
| 00:01.41 | Gagorian | How much is it off? |
| 00:02.50 | SunTsu | hard to tell because dots and haunt all have different uptimes, that's why there is much variance in it |
| 00:03.29 | Gagorian | Indeed, it's not exactly the most stable spell to test :p |
| 00:04.29 | Gagorian | Basically it's only supposed to be used as a -right now- value, if you want the value in 1.5s you need to recheck it then |
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| 00:09.06 | Gagorian | SunTsu: While you were at it, did you test the <25% hp thingie? |
| 00:09.41 | SunTsu | Gagorian: Looks like being 65 too low in it's tick prediction with all dots up. It predicts 1529 and it ticks with 1594. http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Nozdormu&n=Tivlosh - that aff specc |
| 00:10.17 | SunTsu | and that equipment minus badge trinket and minus Shroud of Morabi |
| 00:10.35 | Hjalte | I am looking for an addon to do a raid warning message at; Fish Feast, Mage table and Soulwells. I know there is one for all three. |
| 00:10.45 | Pneumatus | raidbuffstatus |
| 00:10.49 | Pneumatus | but it does a crapton more than that |
| 00:10.56 | Gagorian | SunTsu: *scratches head* |
| 00:11.13 | Gagorian | Can you pinpoint the issue further? |
| 00:11.47 | Gagorian | Without dots it's accurate? So what dot causes it not to be, or is it gradually more wrong |
| 00:12.07 | SunTsu | yeah, it's either haunt or shadow embrace, because without both it's quite fine |
| 00:12.40 | SunTsu | i |
| 00:13.18 | SunTsu | I'd bet on shadow embrace, so I'm gonna build the same specc without shadow embrace and test again |
| 00:13.37 | Megalon | just don't use haunt :p |
| 00:13.44 | Megalon | would be the easy solution ;x |
| 00:13.57 | SunTsu | Megalon: which won't give shadow embrace, too |
| 00:14.01 | Megalon | hm |
| 00:14.06 | SunTsu | that's the bbasic problem with it ;) |
| 00:14.19 | Megalon | Your Shadow Bolt and Haunt spells apply |
| 00:14.34 | SunTsu | exactly |
| 00:14.43 | Megalon | so you don't use haunt |
| 00:14.48 | Megalon | and geht se up with sb |
| 00:15.07 | SunTsu | OK, good point, I'll try that |
| 00:15.12 | Megalon | ;) |
| 00:17.34 | NeoTron | so they are also thinking about doubling the conflag dot damage ot buff destro |
| 00:17.35 | SunTsu | no, it's haunt. with shadow embrace up it's quite accurate, maybe 5 points low, which is way closer |
| 00:17.44 | NeoTron | combined with the imp buff, that's about 350-400 dps increase |
| 00:17.54 | Gagorian | Hmmm I wonder if a two-stacked Shadow Embrace counts as two Soul Siphon effects? |
| 00:17.57 | NeoTron | or enough to put destro close, but not quite, up to where affliction is today. err fail |
| 00:18.01 | Gagorian | Can you check SunTsu? |
| 00:18.28 | Gagorian | i.e. how much does drain soul increase between one stack of shadow embrace and two |
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| 00:21.15 | Pneumatus | Yssaril: guess you pinpointed that error i posted then :) |
| 00:22.12 | Yssaril | Pneumatus: i hope :P basically one of your addons is causeing mapupdates before everything is loaded which i now handle more gracefully (i hope) |
| 00:22.51 | SunTsu | Gagorian: for me about 3%, which is exactly what I'd expect with 3/5 shadow embrace |
| 00:22.54 | Pneumatus | will let you know if i see it again :) |
| 00:23.05 | Gagorian | SunTsu: Alright, good |
| 00:23.17 | Gagorian | Now the problem is.. how the hell can haunt mess it up |
| 00:23.18 | Yssaril | Pneumatus: kk am gona close the ticket just reopen it ore make another one :) |
| 00:23.23 | Pneumatus | rgr |
| 00:23.33 | Gagorian | I add a 20% bonus with Haunt plus one soul siphon effect |
| 00:23.51 | Gagorian | And according to your tests, the prediction is too low? |
| 00:24.10 | Gagorian | I don't know how Haunt could add more than it does now :) |
| 00:24.20 | SunTsu | Gagorian: with haunt up it gets too low, yeah |
| 00:25.11 | Gagorian | DrDamage tooltip coefficient goes up by * 1.2? |
| 00:25.36 | Gagorian | well actually should be 1.2 * 1.06 |
| 00:26.32 | Gagorian | *scratches head* |
| 00:27.37 | Gagorian | aww I see now |
| 00:27.43 | SunTsu | Gagorian: it seems to be acurate one time and off about 10% another time. I don't get it. in one test it predicts about 1450, which is quite right, off again by 5, and the next time it predicts 1208, which is wrong |
| 00:28.06 | Gagorian | Stratch that, I don't get it |
| 00:28.08 | SunTsu | both times the same effects on the dummy |
| 00:29.22 | Gagorian | You using spellstone? |
| 00:29.27 | SunTsu | nope |
| 00:30.06 | Gagorian | Hrmmmhh... |
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| 00:32.25 | SunTsu | I got it |
| 00:33.01 | SunTsu | it's not haunt. it's unstable affliction which don't add to the damage |
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| 00:33.52 | SunTsu | the difference I saw is that one time I looked at it in the time frame when shadow embrace was not up yet and the next time I did |
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| 00:34.32 | SunTsu | when it was up. |
| 00:34.56 | Gagorian | Hmmmh |
| 00:35.04 | Gagorian | I do have unstable affliction added to the list though |
| 00:35.39 | Gagorian | Hmmm I wonder if it fucks up on the self cast requirement, like if UA is bugged somehow |
| 00:35.49 | SunTsu | Gagorian: looks like you don't take unstable affliction into account. when I cast that drdamge does not add anything to the tick prediction, but it adds up for "real" |
| 00:36.08 | SunTsu | without UA everything is quite fine |
| 00:36.33 | Gagorian | But the code should take it into account |
| 00:37.01 | Gagorian | select(8,UnitDebuff("target",1)) |
| 00:37.08 | Gagorian | can you do that with only UA up on the target? |
| 00:37.12 | Gagorian | /dump or whatever |
| 00:38.11 | Shefki | ckknight: *poke* |
| 00:38.22 | ckknight | I have been poked. |
| 00:38.27 | ckknight | let us rejoice. |
| 00:38.41 | Shefki | ckknight: Now go fix duplicate status on tickets not asking you for the ticket that it's a duplicate of. |
| 00:38.54 | ckknight | eh, working on something else |
| 00:39.01 | ckknight | I'd probably be yelled at if I fixed that |
| 00:39.47 | SunTsu | Gagorian: do you limit the number of dots you take into account? |
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| 00:39.57 | Gagorian | yeah, to three |
| 00:40.21 | SunTsu | and with haunt it's four |
| 00:40.40 | Gagorian | Yeah but the talent specifies the max bonus |
| 00:40.51 | Axodious | is there any replacement for fizzle? friend is wondering |
| 00:41.08 | Axodious | specifically % durability on paperdoll |
| 00:41.15 | Gagorian | SunTsu: According to the talent, 3 is max :C |
| 00:42.18 | SunTsu | Gagorian: but that seems the problem somehow. it's like that with any dot I cast last. it does not count, it's not UA specifically |
| 00:43.18 | Gagorian | Well seems like Blizzard has fucked up then ;) |
| 00:45.17 | SunTsu | Gagorian: which aff effects do you count for drain soul? |
| 00:45.33 | Gagorian | Not the first time over an hour of testing has been wasted due to a Blizzard error |
| 00:46.18 | Gagorian | Corruption, Death Coil, CoA, CoD, CoW, CoT, CoE, Fear, UA, SoC, Howl of Terror |
| 00:46.30 | Gagorian | Shadow Embrace, Haunt |
| 00:48.32 | Gagorian | Not sure Death Coil is warranted due to short duration, but well, it SHOULD add damage if you have time to get a tick :D |
| 00:49.06 | Gagorian | In fact, I'll just remove it as you cant get a tick anyway |
| 00:50.00 | Gagorian | Oh yeah, forgot CoS, it's in the list as well |
| 00:51.33 | Gagorian | Actually it was removed, so nvm |
| 00:53.41 | Gagorian | So SunTsu: So I should remove the cap altogether? |
| 00:54.54 | SunTsu | Gagorian: I'll try to get 5 up, one moment please, was just testing if 3 afflictions will do lower damage on drain soul that 4 do |
| 00:55.58 | Gagorian | Haunt, Shadow Embrace, Corruption, CoD, UA? |
| 00:56.33 | Gagorian | Technically that could be topped of with a fear and a seed of corruption, for a total of 7 but not on a dummy, and SoC would drop of way too quick |
| 00:56.46 | SunTsu | No, because Haunt has side effects and itself increases damage |
| 00:58.23 | Gagorian | Well, if it increases from 4 to 5, there's no point capping it as, in practical situtations there wont be more up than that |
| 00:58.48 | Gagorian | So as long as we can determine that, it should suffice |
| 00:59.24 | SunTsu | No, an additional death coil doesn't increase, so it likely has 4 effecrs as the current limit - which is a bug |
| 00:59.40 | SunTsu | effects, that is |
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| 01:03.21 | Gagorian | Alright, I'll cap it to 4 |
| 01:04.15 | SunTsu | Now a fucker uses my dummy for test purposes, so I can't test anymore, sorry |
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| 01:05.45 | Gagorian | Yeah it's fine |
| 01:05.46 | Repo | - Capped Soul Siphon effects to 4 instead of 3. Thanks goes to SunTsu |
| 01:06.29 | Gagorian | SunTsu: |
| 01:06.30 | Gagorian | [00:05:11] <Gagorian> Oh I never trust what the tooltip says |
| 01:06.32 | Gagorian | 3 hours ago |
| 01:06.47 | Gagorian | And, well, turns out the Soul Siphon tooltip was wrong |
| 01:06.49 | Gagorian | ;) |
| 01:07.12 | Gagorian | Thanks for your help.. Sometimes these things are a pain in the ass to figure out |
| 01:07.55 | SunTsu | yeah, and it still feels a little bit fishy |
| 01:08.18 | SunTsu | if I find time in the weekend I'll do some further testing |
| 01:09.53 | Gagorian | Alright |
| 01:09.58 | SunTsu | Gagorian: no need to say thanks for that. I'm the one to be grateful for DrDamage |
| 01:11.38 | steev | ... |
| 01:11.39 | steev | wow |
| 01:12.06 | steev | i just watched a healer out dps a ret paladin... and then said paladin died from intense cold... after the fight while looking at the loots on the boss |
| 01:13.17 | Shadowed | oh hey |
| 01:13.25 | Shadowed | GS author finally learned he can store who sent data by the sender field |
| 01:13.26 | steev | hi2u |
| 01:13.34 | Shadowed | he can learn! |
| 01:14.05 | koaschten | steev that can't beat the mage that rage quit CoT:stratholme after Rankwatch whispered him repeatedly because he was using low rank frost armor and arcane explosion :D |
| 01:14.16 | SunTsu | so chances are he will discontinue gearscore? |
| 01:14.52 | SunTsu | koaschten: yeah, I had people quit too because I told them to use current ranks |
| 01:14.57 | Shadowed | not likely |
| 01:16.02 | koaschten | wow, i just read the GS changelog |
| 01:16.15 | koaschten | Recount mode that shows Gearscore to DPS relation? |
| 01:16.17 | koaschten | w t f |
| 01:16.29 | Shadowed | It's a percent |
| 01:16.31 | Shadowed | DPS * 100 / Gearscore |
| 01:16.37 | koaschten | haha |
| 01:18.08 | NeoTron | that's nice |
| 01:19.09 | NeoTron | will show how useless GS is as a way to measure player quality |
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| 01:23.49 | koaschten | i am tempted to login and tank a quick 5man |
| 01:23.50 | koaschten | :X |
| 01:24.06 | koaschten | just to see how hilarious the score will be on my teribadly geared feral alt tank |
| 01:26.00 | onaforeignshore | http://www.curse.com/error.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/themes/Common/Pages/user/userprofile.aspx |
| 01:27.52 | onaforeignshore | from: http://www.curse.com/members/Zarnivoop.aspx - Skada authors link in CC4 |
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| 01:29.59 | Repo | Small bugfix: "Recieved Loot:" showing when loot was below treshold. |
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| 01:43.13 | steev | wish us luck on rotface tonight :/ |
| 01:53.28 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1181 Data/Rogue.lua: - Rogue poison AP coefficients updated to 3.3 hotfix values |
| 01:53.44 | steev | anyone done a live report? |
| 01:53.54 | steev | i just constantly get "Error registering report" |
| 01:55.14 | steev | ah nevermind |
| 02:00.05 | Kuosi | rotface is suprisingly easy after ppl leave their wheelchairs at home :( |
| 02:02.23 | steev | apparently we're 24 manning it |
| 02:03.03 | orionshock | so what was this change to LDF and oculus? |
| 02:03.28 | steev | at the end you loot a bag outta the chest |
| 02:03.40 | steev | gives rare gem, 2 extra emblems and chance at a blue drake |
| 02:04.35 | orionshock | lol |
| 02:04.52 | steev | at least people are sticking around (til they get the drake at least) |
| 02:04.57 | orionshock | they had to bribe people into running it, this is funny |
| 02:05.37 | orionshock | kandarz, EQ log dosn't retain selection between sessions - intended or bug? |
| 02:08.59 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.3_beta-2 * r1182 : Tagging as 1.7.3_beta-2 |
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| 02:21.03 | Yssaril | anyone know if there are any vendors in wow that sell class restricted items that are not for your class? (in dalaran all the vendors filterout stuff thats not for your class) |
| 02:22.02 | Cyrez | I get what you're saying, but they've been doing the filtering for a while. Although non-rogues used to be able to get Thistle Tea. |
| 02:22.04 | Cyrez | :( |
| 02:22.46 | kandarz | orionshock: intended, if you turn off "Track Zone" and turn on "Save Zone" it is suppose to save your zone |
| 02:25.58 | steev | wipe 1 |
| 02:26.31 | steev | somehow even though he was across the room, the big ooze hit the kiter for 41k |
| 02:26.48 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
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| 02:35.49 | steev | rofl |
| 02:35.55 | steev | we go him with 1 healer and 1 tank left up |
| 02:36.25 | quiescens | grats |
| 02:42.31 | steev | yeah |
| 02:42.38 | steev | so now indifferent gets his shadow's edge |
| 02:42.55 | steev | and quite likely ill be next since the dps warrior left the guild "to raid more" - but i never see him online |
| 02:43.49 | steev | now its putricide attempts |
| 02:44.18 | Kuosi | i need to get my that blood on my alt dk |
| 02:44.27 | Kuosi | err |
| 02:44.29 | Kuosi | get that blood |
| 02:45.26 | steev | and he's got the shadow's edge :D |
| 02:45.50 | Kuosi | figured i wont get better weapon on it so invested some gold :P |
| 02:46.20 | steev | your guild runs 25 alt runs in ICC? |
| 02:46.44 | Kuosi | ofc |
| 02:46.51 | steev | wow |
| 02:47.09 | Kuosi | quite many do? |
| 02:47.24 | steev | not on this server, afaik, only premo might |
| 02:47.31 | Kuosi | propably 80% of the guilds atleast that did 25man putridice |
| 02:47.39 | Kuosi | did attempts on alts first |
| 02:47.44 | Kuosi | in 25 and 10man |
| 02:50.31 | steev | guess that makes some sense, to get used to the fight |
| 02:50.45 | Kuosi | helps a lot |
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| 02:51.18 | Kuosi | did 10man clear with ppl using furious gear etc |
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| 02:52.17 | Repo | e084ace: Auto popup of party notes is delayed until you drop combat |
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| 02:58.00 | steev | so wait - first night there were 50 attempts available, but now there are only 10? |
| 02:59.36 | Shefki | steev: The 50 attempts was a bug. |
| 02:59.52 | Shefki | And I'm not sure it even happened to everyone. I've only seen one screenshot. |
| 02:59.55 | steev | that was available to all the guilds who did it the first night, yet they still get world firsts? |
| 03:00.12 | Shefki | I don't think it was available to everyone the first night. |
| 03:00.17 | Shefki | I think it was a rare bug. |
| 03:00.33 | steev | is army safe on this fight? |
| 03:00.34 | Shefki | Like I said I'veonly seen one screenshot with it and that was Premo who killed it with 49 attempts remaining. |
| 03:00.48 | steev | no, they killed it on attempt 49 of 50 i thought |
| 03:01.07 | steev | -no, |
| 03:01.17 | steev | was typing in something else |
| 03:01.40 | steev | no, or yes, anyone know? using aotd on Putricide |
| 03:01.52 | Kuosi | it's safe |
| 03:02.05 | Kuosi | did on my dk atleast |
| 03:02.15 | steev | k |
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| 03:03.25 | arkanes | we used our 10 without getting him down but felt like we were understanding the fight |
| 03:03.41 | arkanes | if we'd had the people to run an alt run or 2 might have been a different story |
| 03:04.26 | steev | heh wipe 1 at 90% |
| 03:04.27 | arkanes | so many wierd mechanics we tried to experiment with, but you don't want to risk losing attempts so we were just trying crazy stuff with the last couple people up and a wipe was incoming |
| 03:04.48 | steev | how do you handle the green slimes? |
| 03:04.49 | arkanes | we didn't even hit p2 until our 3rd attempt :P |
| 03:05.05 | arkanes | the spawned ones, or the ones he throws? |
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| 03:05.19 | steev | mm, the green ones that blast everyone around |
| 03:05.25 | arkanes | the abom |
| 03:05.40 | arkanes | suck up the slime pool for energy, use that energy to apply a slow to the slime |
| 03:05.50 | arkanes | once the slime fixates, everyone collapses on the target |
| 03:05.54 | arkanes | since the damage is split |
| 03:06.16 | arkanes | make sure everyone has their backs toward the center of the room, not the wall or different directions, since it'll re-fixate and you need to re-collapse |
| 03:07.25 | steev | so do we just kinda stand around in a huge lump til the first slime? |
| 03:07.30 | steev | or dps the boss til then |
| 03:07.33 | arkanes | dps him |
| 03:07.52 | arkanes | what started to work for us was to have the tank wait at the front edge of that circle on the ground |
| 03:08.07 | arkanes | abom tank runs to the table and facepulls, misdirect to tank |
| 03:08.13 | arkanes | that gets the abom up fast |
| 03:08.36 | arkanes | everyones clustered on the tank until the slime pool is in the air, then you move to the back right section of that circle |
| 03:08.49 | arkanes | that puts the slimes right under the aboms feet for fast energy gathering |
| 03:09.07 | arkanes | ranged starts dps on the spawn as soon as its up, melee hits it as it gets into range |
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| 03:09.34 | arkanes | blow up toward left side of the room, re-collapse, dps slime before it explodes a second time, move boss to left side of circle |
| 03:09.43 | Kuosi | if the abo hits the blob as soon as it spawns and before it forms the link |
| 03:09.47 | arkanes | dps boss, prepare to handle gas cloud |
| 03:09.50 | Kuosi | sometimes the blob bugs out and aggroes the abo |
| 03:10.14 | arkanes | boss phases at 80%, do *not* phase him with an add up it will ruin your day |
| 03:10.38 | Kuosi | manageable |
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| 03:10.52 | Kuosi | jsut make sure you dont have them up for p3 |
| 03:11.27 | arkanes | one way that we got fucked was the ooze would fixate on someone in the slime |
| 03:11.30 | arkanes | especialy a healer |
| 03:11.45 | SunTsu | I don't get it, this is the second week there are two weekly raid quests in the wild. There's a window of few seconds in which a differend weekly is spreaded before it settles to a single one for the week |
| 03:11.47 | arkanes | so we tried to manage things to control where the slime was likely to go to minimize that |
| 03:12.03 | arkanes | SunTsu: how do you gigure |
| 03:12.13 | arkanes | *figure |
| 03:13.24 | SunTsu | arkanes: because it's the second week I was up on 3 °clock during the change and some people are looking for groups for maligos weekly and other people lfg ulduar weekly and it was the same last week |
| 03:13.35 | steev | 79% that time - that pull advice was nice |
| 03:15.13 | arkanes | glad it helped |
| 03:15.38 | SunTsu | arkanes: last week some people wer lfg patchwerk weekly and the rest was lfg XT weekly - like this week |
| 03:15.39 | arkanes | SunTsu: wierd, I haven't seen that |
| 03:16.03 | Kuosi | the weekly on our server resets twice a week :P |
| 03:16.05 | Kuosi | like wg |
| 03:16.06 | steev | oh |
| 03:16.14 | steev | and we did phase him right as he spawned an orange |
| 03:16.33 | arkanes | did the orange then zoom into your group and destroy you? |
| 03:16.39 | SunTsu | Kuosi: on which days? |
| 03:16.48 | Kuosi | tuesday+sunday |
| 03:17.11 | arkanes | actually its not terrible as long as your abom didn't slow it before the phase |
| 03:17.11 | steev | arkanes: he was stunned the duration we were... and then he did |
| 03:17.30 | steev | kite the boss close to the table or no? |
| 03:17.32 | arkanes | the problem we were having was that the abom would slow it, phase would happen, and the slow would wear off before the tear gas |
| 03:17.37 | arkanes | nah |
| 03:17.37 | SunTsu | maybe it resets twice with us, too, but it's 03:00:00 and 03:00:05 or something like that |
| 03:17.40 | steev | nah - spawned right as the phase happened |
| 03:17.45 | arkanes | no reason to use the table after your abom is up |
| 03:18.00 | arkanes | we basically move back & forth across that circle |
| 03:18.15 | arkanes | it's about 40 yards across so its a good way to measure range from the spawn point, so you can get DPS on the ooze right away' |
| 03:20.51 | steev | woot much better |
| 03:20.54 | steev | p2 without slimes |
| 03:21.04 | arkanes | p2 is *long* |
| 03:21.11 | arkanes | p3 starts at 35% |
| 03:22.02 | arkanes | so basically its just a matter of everyone executing perfectly and still getting some boss DPS in |
| 03:22.03 | arkanes | kinda like fester and rot, the fight approaches trivial as your DPS scales up |
| 03:22.07 | steev | 74% that attempt |
| 03:23.20 | Kuosi | putridice starts at 5% -.- |
| 03:23.31 | Kuosi | cant wait to see the hard mode numbers |
| 03:25.56 | steev | 7 of 10 attempts remaining |
| 03:25.56 | steev | none of our 10 man groups that went this week got past rotface |
| 03:25.57 | arkanes | we failed hard at rotface, man |
| 03:25.57 | arkanes | 50 wipes :\ |
| 03:25.57 | arkanes | more than we put in on heroic anub |
| 03:26.04 | arkanes | he's been nerfed now though |
| 03:27.47 | arkanes | or corrected, if you like |
| 03:29.17 | steev | bleh |
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| 03:32.12 | steev | 73 or 74 that attempt too |
| 03:32.29 | steev | p2 is a bitch when people dont' pay attention heh |
| 03:32.33 | arkanes | god yes |
| 03:32.48 | arkanes | the trick to the fight is perfect raid awareness and movement for the entirety of p2 |
| 03:33.15 | arkanes | dodge the bouncy balls, kite the oozes, avoid the slimes, dont step on the bombs |
| 03:33.24 | arkanes | repeat until 35% |
| 03:33.35 | arkanes | I have no advice for you after that because our best attempt was like 48% |
| 03:33.38 | Groktar | i was watching paragon's video |
| 03:33.52 | Groktar | and one thing that struck me was how long they waited to switch to the green zooe |
| 03:33.55 | Groktar | *ooze |
| 03:34.07 | Groktar | healers just all clumped up on the targetted person |
| 03:34.13 | Groktar | and melee waited until it got close |
| 03:34.14 | arkanes | well paragons got a fuckton more DPS than we do :P |
| 03:34.19 | arkanes | yes, melee should wait |
| 03:34.20 | Groktar | their dps is shit |
| 03:34.33 | arkanes | ranged should be on it the instant it spawns |
| 03:34.36 | Groktar | he went into p2 on the second green ooze |
| 03:34.46 | Groktar | we push him to p2 on the first orange |
| 03:34.49 | arkanes | you've got an easy 5 seconds before it even fixates to burn it down |
| 03:34.57 | arkanes | well, maybe they don't, second green is about when we get it |
| 03:35.04 | Groktar | :/ |
| 03:35.09 | Groktar | thing about the green ooze |
| 03:35.12 | arkanes | if melee runs for it before it fixates they take the risk of getting fixated and fucked |
| 03:35.15 | Groktar | if people are clumped up it doesn't hurd bad |
| 03:35.17 | arkanes | so you need everyone to keep range |
| 03:35.17 | Groktar | *hurt |
| 03:35.26 | Groktar | so if you just wait |
| 03:35.28 | arkanes | right |
| 03:35.30 | Groktar | and don't chaase it |
| 03:35.32 | Groktar | you're good |
| 03:35.38 | Groktar | and you can get a lot more dps time on it |
| 03:35.38 | arkanes | melee |
| 03:35.45 | arkanes | ranged can get on it right away |
| 03:35.50 | Groktar | just saying the ranged don't need to chase after it |
| 03:35.58 | Groktar | run all the way to the other side of the room |
| 03:36.03 | Groktar | is a nono |
| 03:36.07 | arkanes | well we position the raid such that they can start on it immediately |
| 03:36.27 | arkanes | we used to try to start all the way over on the wall but that just wasn't working out |
| 03:36.41 | arkanes | place the raid so you're 40 yards or so from the oozes spawn point gives you maximum DPS time |
| 03:38.05 | Groktar | idk |
| 03:38.14 | Groktar | we got to 14% our best attempt |
| 03:38.27 | Groktar | hard enrage |
| 03:38.42 | Groktar | do you know if the paladins can bubble the stacks off? |
| 03:38.45 | Groktar | we run with two prot pallies lately |
| 03:38.50 | arkanes | which stacks? |
| 03:38.53 | arkanes | the p3 ones? |
| 03:38.54 | Groktar | p3 stacks |
| 03:38.58 | arkanes | don't know |
| 03:39.54 | Groktar | it didn't occur to them to see until the second time we hit p3 |
| 03:40.01 | Groktar | and then that was a total clusterfuck |
| 03:40.10 | Groktar | so they never actually figured out |
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| 03:42.20 | arkanes | hmm the abom doesn't get knocked back by the ooze |
| 03:44.34 | Groktar | nerp |
| 03:47.06 | steev | we have 6 attempts left |
| 03:47.28 | Groktar | actually have a raid going today? |
| 03:47.34 | Groktar | we used our attempts up last night |
| 03:47.50 | steev | yeah |
| 03:47.55 | steev | we raid mon, tues, thurs |
| 03:48.43 | steev | we used to raid sunday afternoon/evening |
| 03:48.54 | steev | we moved it to mon nights for the summer, and just never moved it back |
| 03:48.58 | Groktar | we'll try to be back to a 5 day raid schedule in a couple weeks |
| 03:49.18 | Groktar | not that there's going to be 5 days of 25 mans |
| 03:50.13 | Ingelagr | Groktar, which server do you play on |
| 03:50.17 | Ingelagr | and guild |
| 03:50.52 | Groktar | impulse of daggerspine |
| 03:50.57 | Ingelagr | lol |
| 03:50.59 | Ingelagr | nice dps |
| 03:51.06 | Ingelagr | did you get spammed by hysteria? |
| 03:51.14 | Groktar | haha |
| 03:51.16 | Groktar | that's a fake log |
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| 03:51.21 | Ingelagr | lol :D |
| 03:51.36 | Ingelagr | why did you/someone make a fake log and upload it to world of logs? |
| 03:51.39 | Groktar | i put an extra 1 in front of all my bloodthirsts |
| 03:51.52 | Ingelagr | but why :d |
| 03:51.52 | Groktar | because our realm forums were dead |
| 03:52.06 | Groktar | and we thought an IMPULSE EXPLOITS thread might liven things up |
| 03:52.22 | arkanes | damage meters are serious bsns man |
| 03:52.26 | Ingelagr | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/43tbmulktzm8am9p/sum/damageDone/?s=3849&e=4077#Groktar |
| 03:52.28 | Ingelagr | rofl |
| 03:52.35 | Ingelagr | i see mountains! |
| 03:53.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7013 / (6 files in 3 directories): Cleanup remaining stack count functions. |
| 03:54.08 | steev | so yeah, that last attempt |
| 03:54.14 | steev | i tried to dps the gas bomb |
| 03:54.33 | Groktar | :p |
| 03:54.38 | arkanes | did it switch target to you and kaboosh you? |
| 03:54.44 | steev | @project omen |
| 03:54.45 | Repo | steev: http://www.wowace.com/addons/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author), anmoch (Author), Antiarc (Author), Nevcairiel (Author). Updated: 19 days ago |
| 03:55.00 | steev | Antiarc: why does omen not save the minimap button status on profiles? |
| 03:56.15 | Ingelagr | they are after your soul steev |
| 03:56.17 | Ingelagr | you better run! |
| 03:56.18 | steev | hates on minimap buttons |
| 03:56.21 | Ingelagr | it's a conspiracy! |
| 03:56.32 | arkanes | any of you guys done on a boat? |
| 03:56.44 | steev | not gotten it but we've tried in both 10 and 25 |
| 03:56.49 | arkanes | we gave it a shot earlier this week but the strat we'd heard for it wasn't working |
| 03:56.51 | steev | no matter what we don't seem to get it |
| 03:57.13 | steev | we leave half the team over there |
| 03:57.14 | Ingelagr | arkanes, what was that pom tracker addon called |
| 03:57.20 | arkanes | we tried having a tank taunt the commander from the range and just hold him |
| 03:57.31 | arkanes | Ingelagr: I don't remember, I didn't like it so I wrote my own |
| 03:57.39 | Ingelagr | yeah, what is that addon called |
| 03:57.40 | Ingelagr | your own |
| 03:57.40 | Ingelagr | :D |
| 03:57.45 | arkanes | its not finished |
| 03:57.47 | arkanes | also not published |
| 03:57.51 | Ingelagr | ah |
| 03:58.29 | arkanes | he was gaining stacks of enrage from throwing his axe |
| 03:58.41 | arkanes | which supposedly isn't supposed to or at least didn't used to happen |
| 03:59.10 | Ingelagr | they'll probably bufix shit when all hardmodes are out and people actually starts to whine to get their achievement |
| 03:59.44 | arkanes | rotface achieve is going to be soul-destroying |
| 04:00.46 | Groktar | i will probably not log on when they're doing achievements |
| 04:00.48 | Groktar | heh |
| 04:01.00 | Groktar | naxx really soured me on all that crap |
| 04:01.28 | Ingelagr | i enjoyed 10man ulduar a lot |
| 04:01.30 | Ingelagr | that was really fun tbh |
| 04:03.08 | Groktar | i always thought that place was a hellhole |
| 04:03.24 | Groktar | but that was because we couldn't get a good group for more than a couple hours for 10m |
| 04:03.31 | Groktar | since we were going so hard at 25m |
| 04:03.39 | Ingelagr | 8man naxx was hell becuase only noobs wanted to go everytime |
| 04:06.10 | Groktar | yeah |
| 04:06.16 | Groktar | like i said, i would just leave group |
| 04:06.40 | arkanes | the other week we had a couple hours after clear everything so we decided to go back to naxx and get undying |
| 04:06.45 | arkanes | did saph kt first |
| 04:07.00 | arkanes | and in the first 10 seconds of kt a DK stands in a void and dies |
| 04:07.02 | arkanes | great times |
| 04:07.20 | Groktar | that was another thing that made me rage |
| 04:07.29 | Groktar | people would throw tantrums because we failed at undying |
| 04:07.32 | Ingelagr | we did our undying quite early and on a friday 20.00 half of the raid drunk |
| 04:07.35 | Groktar | like it ruined their whole week |
| 04:07.35 | Ingelagr | nobody was even serious |
| 04:07.46 | Ingelagr | and nobody had thsat good gear as well |
| 04:07.50 | Ingelagr | was probably 100% luck |
| 04:07.51 | Ingelagr | :D |
| 04:07.53 | arkanes | well we gave him shit like nobodys business |
| 04:07.56 | arkanes | but he deserved it |
| 04:08.56 | arkanes | I don't know, the dumbest stuff seems to get in our way |
| 04:09.19 | arkanes | we one shotted every boss in togc thursday, except we wiped twice on jaraxus |
| 04:09.22 | arkanes | god knows why |
| 04:09.47 | Ingelagr | we did insanity last week before icc |
| 04:09.50 | Ingelagr | \o/ |
| 04:09.51 | Groktar | we wiped on anub at 50 attempts because the dks failed at death grip |
| 04:09.53 | Groktar | :( |
| 04:10.16 | Groktar | we pretty much search for ways to fail on that fight |
| 04:11.03 | arkanes | we've easily one shotted every encounter individually |
| 04:11.09 | arkanes | but it's always something |
| 04:11.19 | Ingelagr | hehe |
| 04:11.22 | arkanes | we get a terrible comp & rng and champs just fuck us, and then we one shot everything else |
| 04:11.33 | Ingelagr | FC was just retarded |
| 04:11.47 | arkanes | or we don't have a third healer to sub in, and we get some bad orbs and we wipe on twins |
| 04:12.08 | arkanes | or we start the instance with our heads on backwards or something and wipe on jaraxxus or beasts |
| 04:12.12 | arkanes | man I dunno |
| 04:12.26 | Groktar | well, since we use a pally tank on beasts |
| 04:12.33 | Groktar | usually we can see it coming |
| 04:12.41 | Groktar | and we all release and the pally bubble hearths |
| 04:12.58 | arkanes | ... that doesn't actually work, does it? |
| 04:13.04 | Groktar | sure it does |
| 04:13.07 | arkanes | hah |
| 04:14.32 | steev | 57%! |
| 04:16.02 | steev | and trash pops |
| 04:21.16 | Axodious | i just noticed |
| 04:21.20 | Axodious | gear score was made on my server |
| 04:21.22 | Axodious | that makes me :( |
| 04:23.31 | Megalon | you will pay for that Axodious, YOU WILL PAY |
| 04:23.46 | Ingelagr | you could have stopped him |
| 04:23.48 | Ingelagr | but noooo |
| 04:23.51 | Ingelagr | we're all doomed |
| 04:23.51 | Megalon | on my server, randoms choose their gear |
| 04:23.59 | Megalon | by the value it bumps their gearscore |
| 04:24.08 | Ingelagr | :D |
| 04:24.10 | Megalon | :| |
| 04:27.03 | steev | yeah... |
| 04:27.14 | steev | and people throw on all their highest ilevel shit and queue now |
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| 04:36.41 | steev | woot |
| 04:36.46 | steev | broke 12k attack power |
| 04:36.56 | steev | with buffs and stuff |
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| 04:41.27 | pentium166 | Does anyone know an addon to disable the background that fades in/out when you mouse over the chat window? |
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| 04:42.24 | WobWork | just set the background to fully transparent? |
| 04:42.57 | pentium166 | it still shows up when i mouse over it |
| 04:45.29 | steev | chatter or prat used to do it |
| 04:45.53 | steev | yeah, chatter will make it transparent |
| 04:46.02 | pentium166 | what module? |
| 04:46.42 | pentium166 | borders/background seems to add a new frame without getting rid of the old one |
| 04:46.51 | steev | "Backround color" |
| 04:46.56 | steev | background* |
| 04:47.02 | steev | drag the + all the way to - |
| 04:50.23 | steev | last attempt and then we're done |
| 04:50.26 | steev | cuz thats all we get |
| 05:00.38 | pentium166 | ~toc |
| 05:00.39 | purl | i guess toc is The current WoW Interface Number is: 30300 |
| 05:03.06 | pentium166 | Couldn't get anything in chatter that looked like it helped, but I found http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228423051&sid=1 which did |
| 05:03.53 | steev | log is uploading |
| 05:05.28 | Axodious | god damn i hate decimation SOOO much |
| 05:05.34 | steev | arkanes: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/fvivebl029n1hvtn/ |
| 05:05.53 | Axodious | 32->0 shards on 0 light |
| 05:06.27 | steev | wha? |
| 05:06.53 | Axodious | if you cast soul fire with decimation up and it falls before the cast goes off |
| 05:06.55 | Axodious | it chews a shard |
| 05:07.16 | steev | i see |
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| 05:53.43 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r63 / (9 files in 2 directories): Added koKR, zhCN (thank you, Mattbnr) and updated locales |
| 05:53.45 | Repo | hopefully fixed anchor not staying put |
| 05:53.46 | Repo | Added turning of res bars |
| 05:53.47 | Repo | Added disabling SmartRes2 completely |
| 06:07.17 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-17-g6f5e5a7 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 06:07.18 | Repo | 6f5e5a7: Tanking Death Knights are now allowed to wear any physical dps, dps or melee dps weapons without being red flagged |
| 06:07.19 | Repo | b363096: Moved Death Knights to their own tanking category, no visual changes from this |
| 06:07.40 | Repo | e0fedae: Updated unit tests, added another 250 tests |
| 06:07.42 | Repo | c29fd84: Added support for allowing certain item types per spec/slot |
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| 06:08.59 | asmodai | morning |
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| 06:30.35 | Torhal | Shadowed: ping |
| 06:31.52 | Shadowed | Torhal: pong |
| 06:32.13 | Torhal | Shadowed: You're AKA Mayen, aye? |
| 06:32.26 | Shadowed | Shadow/Mayen yes, why? |
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| 06:32.36 | Shadowed | I only use Mayen in-game |
| 06:32.43 | Torhal | And in ToC files |
| 06:32.44 | Torhal | Anywho |
| 06:32.51 | Shadowed | those are all Shadow on anything new! |
| 06:33.00 | robotusch | :O |
| 06:33.04 | Torhal | Wondered if you were aware that someone is trying to GPL3 your shit: http://www.wowace.com/addons/achievementsearch/ |
| 06:33.16 | Torhal | No code to look at, but form the desc... |
| 06:33.19 | Torhal | s/form/from/ |
| 06:34.52 | Shadowed | Which one is GPL again, is that the viral crazy OS one |
| 06:35.03 | Torhal | Aye |
| 06:35.05 | steev | okay - why does it not ask me if i want to buy commendations with WG marks but it does stone keeper shards? |
| 06:35.24 | Shadowed | Depends what he takes, if all he does is grab a little bit I don't really care |
| 06:35.26 | Repo | 10fu-bar_pet-info-fu: 03Jaydehawk * r100 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 06:35.28 | Repo | - 3.3.0 several bug fixes |
| 06:36.02 | Torhal | Then I'll mark it as changes required - upload code for review. |
| 06:36.08 | Repo | 10fu-bar_pet-info-fu: 03Jaydehawk 04v3.3.0 * r101 : Tagging as v3.3.0 |
| 06:36.29 | orionshock | Shadowed, the file localcheck.lua in elitistgroup does that scan your addon for strings then upload them to the web app automatically ? |
| 06:36.39 | Shadowed | yes |
| 06:37.15 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu-lt: 03Jaydehawk 04v3.3.0 * r50 : Tagging as v3.3.0 |
| 06:37.17 | Torhal | Here we go: Changes required - Before approval, you must upload your code for review since you cite inspirational sources licensed as All Rights Reserved. |
| 06:37.31 | Shadowed | kk thanks |
| 06:37.37 | Torhal | np |
| 06:38.01 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu: 03Jaydehawk 04v3.3.0 * r135 : Tagging as v3.3.0 |
| 06:39.07 | orionshock | Shadowed, that is awesome, i thought of something like that for a few weeks now. I knew it possible just i don't have the know-how to do it. May i use it? if so what's the expected lay out for the apikey.lua file that's referenced? |
| 06:39.31 | Shadowed | Don't remember, just check the source it lists everything that needs to be set |
| 06:39.33 | Shadowed | but go nuts |
| 06:39.39 | Shadowed | Need to upload it somepoint |
| 06:41.14 | orionshock | Shadowed, the apikey.lua file i take it is just a one liner setting a global "CURSE_API_KEY" ? |
| 06:41.20 | Shadowed | should be |
| 06:41.48 | steev | registers areyouabaddie.com |
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| 06:44.45 | Megalon | hijacks |
| 06:45.14 | steev | heh |
| 06:45.27 | steev | i got so much other stuff on my plate, i couldn't be bothered to actually do that |
| 06:46.39 | Megalon | uploads the hellokitty-themepack |
| 06:49.49 | steev | that reminds me of a guildie of ours who had like SG-1 muriels(sp?) in/on her interface |
| 06:50.09 | Torhal | SG-1 murals? Hah |
| 06:50.53 | steev | yeah... |
| 06:51.00 | steev | richard dean anderson ftw? |
| 06:51.14 | steev | bleh |
| 06:51.17 | asmodai | You means those chevrons from the stargate? |
| 06:51.23 | steev | no |
| 06:51.30 | steev | i mean... the cast |
| 06:51.33 | steev | pictures of the cast |
| 06:51.34 | asmodai | oh |
| 06:51.35 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 06:51.38 | steev | all over the interface |
| 06:51.39 | asmodai | omg, that's even worse |
| 06:51.44 | steev | and not like |
| 06:51.49 | steev | oh she has a viewport |
| 06:52.07 | Torhal | ... |
| 06:52.27 | steev | just... randomly (strategically?) placed all over the screen |
| 06:56.38 | orionshock | Shadowed, AH, you are another god send :) with a few alterations to the file for some sanity checks it works... this is as awesome as when i found the BabbleFish.lua file in BT4 |
| 06:56.42 | orionshock | <3 |
| 06:57.16 | steev | oh wait, it was viewported |
| 06:57.19 | steev | http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc290/faithanub/sgui.jpg |
| 06:57.37 | Torhal | steev: My brain just asploded. |
| 06:57.41 | digmouse | which one is the oldest All-in-one inventory mod? |
| 06:57.47 | digmouse | Bagnon? Onebag? |
| 06:58.44 | steev | no idea, here, but i used onebag long before i'd heard of bagnon (now i use bagnon because it was often broken less) |
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| 06:59.10 | asmodai | steev: wtf |
| 06:59.20 | steev | asmodai: sup? |
| 06:59.33 | asmodai | Even has the buttons laid out in a hoof iron |
| 06:59.41 | asmodai | just to show off Richard Dean Anderson |
| 06:59.55 | steev | women *shrug* |
| 07:00.07 | steev | runs and hides in case there happen to be any around |
| 07:00.16 | asmodai | The mind, it boggles! |
| 07:00.27 | steev | anyone know if there are gonna be patches/extended maint tomorrow? |
| 07:00.27 | Torhal | Mine is currently twitching. |
| 07:00.40 | steev | really hope i didn't throw all that shite aon the AH and its down all day :/ |
| 07:02.50 | pompy | steev: says 5am pacific-2pm Pacific |
| 07:03.08 | asmodai | Random question: for a paladin, intellect is always nice to have on gear, right? But of course Protection and Retribution don't assign as much import to it as holy does, but if you can get more intellect without compromising your primary stats as prot/retr, it's welcome, yes? |
| 07:04.15 | Megalon | well, if you find some plate dps/tank gear with intellect |
| 07:04.40 | asmodai | Megalon: heh, hypothetically spoken :) |
| 07:08.21 | steev | hypothetically, sure |
| 07:08.49 | Megalon | practically spoken, it's useless |
| 07:09.02 | asmodai | due to? |
| 07:09.19 | Megalon | it not being usefull? :x |
| 07:09.35 | steev | what is TTT? |
| 07:09.47 | Megalon | nothing scales with int for retri/prot |
| 07:09.58 | digmouse | well, first, prot/ret dont rely on intellect a lot, they got lots of ways to regen mana (blessing of Sactuary, Judgement, etc) |
| 07:10.01 | Megalon | and I don't think those spec have mana concerns |
| 07:10.15 | digmouse | second, no DPS/Tank plates are with int on them |
| 07:10.17 | asmodai | digmouse: ok, so a larger mana pool is not necessarily necessary that way |
| 07:10.22 | pompy | "This addon cause Quest Log to stop working. It doesn't show new quests I get or remove completed or abandoned quests when this is active."--lol random comment about Collectinator. |
| 07:10.24 | asmodai | err |
| 07:10.28 | digmouse | asmodai: yes |
| 07:10.30 | asmodai | double necessary there |
| 07:10.32 | asmodai | ok |
| 07:10.48 | asmodai | so I need to rethink that part |
| 07:10.50 | digmouse | back to BC, ret and tankadin gears are with SP and Intellect |
| 07:11.09 | digmouse | but after LK, those are converted to the same as other plate specs |
| 07:11.10 | Torhal | pompy: That's like saying "I installed QuestHelper and my dog died." |
| 07:11.10 | Megalon | BoS is the only one that scales with your mana pool |
| 07:11.15 | Megalon | JotW, JoW |
| 07:11.22 | Megalon | are fixed amounts/basemana% |
| 07:11.23 | asmodai | digmouse: ahh |
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| 07:26.49 | Shirik | theoddone33: Get devtools |
| 07:26.56 | Shirik | or maybe /eventtrace is built-in now |
| 07:28.33 | Megalon | it is |
| 07:30.44 | theoddone33 | too much info :( |
| 07:31.18 | Torhal | Shadowed: Scrapper or Scraper? |
| 07:31.21 | theoddone33 | useful though |
| 07:32.06 | orionshock | Shadowed, after a bit of luck and debug, i got it to work with nested dir's and curseforge ( most of it's the difference with linux ) :) |
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| 07:39.34 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r307 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update deDE, Thanks Vilogity. |
| 07:39.36 | Repo | Fixes Ticket-71 |
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| 07:44.06 | pompy | http://www.wow.com/2010/01/12/upcoming-adjustments-announced-for-old-kingdom-nexus-culling-o/ nerfage |
| 07:45.10 | Gnarfoz | I'm so giddy to see what they're doing to it that I can barely click the link |
| 07:45.43 | Gnarfoz | (actually, I have to manually copy&paste it since I'm using putty... what was that alternative that had clickable link support called again? :<) |
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| 07:48.57 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Terminal on OS X. :P |
| 07:51.13 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: terminals on linux do, too, just how do I tell this company to cater to my entertainment needs and install Linux or switch to macs? :P |
| 07:52.14 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: lol, I'm just giving you a hard time. |
| 07:52.33 | Shefki | Though the fact that windows doesn't come with a decent terminal application is pathetic IMHO. |
| 07:53.54 | nevcairiel | windows users dont really need terminals |
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| 07:54.34 | nevcairiel | wasnt there some putty clone with improved functionality? |
| 07:54.38 | nevcairiel | or fork, rather |
| 07:55.10 | Arrowmaster | more like microsoft doesnt, 'why would anybody use a terminal when youve got rdp?' |
| 07:55.36 | nevcairiel | you cant do much with terminals on windows |
| 07:55.53 | nevcairiel | and if you install another shell and CLI tools to use .. you can just install a new terminal emulator too |
| 07:56.19 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Microsoft has NIH syndrome bad. |
| 07:56.50 | Shefki | The few things they do adopt from elsewhere they have to completely fuck up. |
| 07:58.16 | Shefki | But then they have the luxury of the majority of the market so they can do whatever they want and people will have to support it. |
| 07:58.23 | Shefki | No matter have fucking retarded it is. |
| 07:59.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, there's at least two "improved putty" clones around, i just can't recall either's names |
| 07:59.13 | Arrowmaster | ive been using server 2003 at school, seriously how the fuck can they get anybody to use that crap when it takes 5 fucking minutes to boot up while its configuring the networking |
| 07:59.16 | Shefki | Not that I'm gonna sit here and say that Apple et al are some sort of shining examples of corporate behavior either. |
| 07:59.29 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: haha yeah. domain controller? |
| 07:59.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:59.50 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft. |
| 07:59.54 | Gnarfoz | that increases the boot time by like, 1000% or something |
| 07:59.56 | nevcairiel | boot times of a server are really something no-one should worry about |
| 08:00.01 | nevcairiel | you are not supposed to reboot that |
| 08:00.04 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: duh, nobody has worked for me yet |
| 08:00.06 | theoddone33 | my master plan is almost complete |
| 08:00.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's windows, you sometimes just have to. :D |
| 08:00.12 | Shefki | nevcairiel: We're talking about Windows. |
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| 08:00.20 | Shefki | nevcairiel: How can you seriously say that when talking about Windows. |
| 08:00.25 | theoddone33 | I'm making a mod that will tell dbm version checks that I have the latest version installed, when I don't |
| 08:00.38 | Shefki | dbmwtfbbq |
| 08:00.39 | Gnarfoz | theoddone33: already exists |
| 08:00.41 | nevcairiel | because i'm not a fanboi of macs or anything, i keep open to facts =P |
| 08:00.41 | Shefki | or something like that. |
| 08:00.43 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: most places reboot windows servers regularly |
| 08:00.44 | theoddone33 | where? |
| 08:00.46 | Gnarfoz | theoddone33: DBMFTLBBQ |
| 08:00.50 | Shefki | That's it. |
| 08:00.54 | theoddone33 | wow that would have saved me 15m |
| 08:00.55 | Arrowmaster | a lot will reboot them every night |
| 08:01.10 | haste | Gnarfoz: DBMFTLBBQANDBWFTLBBQBLWORKS! |
| 08:01.10 | Gnarfoz | it even learns and updates its response |
| 08:01.19 | nevcairiel | even then Arrowmaster, its done in off times, a server is nothing you sit in front, turn it on, and wait untils its booted |
| 08:01.21 | Gnarfoz | haste: fix oglow plx :< |
| 08:01.31 | haste | Gnarfoz: just use the git-head for now! |
| 08:01.34 | Shefki | I had to install that the other day when some PUG demanded that I have DBM installed. |
| 08:01.34 | Gnarfoz | or rather "finish" that git version, whatever is different tere |
| 08:01.35 | Gnarfoz | *there |
| 08:02.04 | haste | I am working on it once in a while, but time doesn't always allow much work on it :V |
| 08:02.10 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 08:02.15 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I'll admit that Windows has gotten better, but I think Server 2003 predates the getting better stuff. |
| 08:02.16 | Gnarfoz | time :( |
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| 08:03.03 | Gnarfoz | wowi svn repos are usually only writable for the owner, right? |
| 08:03.17 | nevcairiel | you can give write access to other people |
| 08:03.22 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 08:03.31 | Gnarfoz | well, yeah |
| 08:03.47 | orionshock | well.. time to watch something aspolde |
| 08:04.34 | Gnarfoz | UrbanAchiever has: svn (not writable for me), the original author + a maintainer assigned to the project and it's using the original author's "portal" stuff, i.e. bug reports - so I have a feeling they'll be ignored because, well, he's not around anymore ;D |
| 08:04.36 | Shefki | Myrroddin: If you're around would it offend you greatly if I started fixing bugs in SmartRes2? |
| 08:05.04 | theoddone33 | does anything pull out dbm's range check into a separate mod? |
| 08:05.05 | Myrroddin | Shefki i *just* walked into the door. good timing. go ahead |
| 08:05.15 | theoddone33 | can't find one but I'm sure someone's done it |
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| 08:05.31 | Shefki | Like syntax errors. |
| 08:05.36 | Myrroddin | Shefki this week i'm more or less putting my brain on hold due to illness.... |
| 08:05.54 | nevcairiel | illness is the time off from work when you can work on addons |
| 08:05.57 | nevcairiel | no? |
| 08:06.08 | Shefki | self:Print(L["You are ressing %s]):format(target) |
| 08:06.09 | Myrroddin | LOL nevcairiel |
| 08:06.15 | Shefki | Which should be: |
| 08:06.16 | Shefki | self:Print((L["You are ressing %s"]):format(target)) |
| 08:06.39 | Myrroddin | Shefki, can you do commits to svn? |
| 08:06.44 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 08:06.58 | Myrroddin | then i don't mind you fixing whatever you find is broken |
| 08:07.13 | Myrroddin | just do a commit if you want |
| 08:07.15 | Shefki | Just wanted to ask before I started playing in someone elses sandbox. |
| 08:07.39 | Myrroddin | no worries mate. i'm not just making this for me. when it is done and working, it is for everybody |
| 08:08.09 | Shefki | I mostly just care about the whisper feature. Guild wants me to whisper when battle rezing. |
| 08:08.18 | Shefki | And doing it with a macro sucks. |
| 08:08.39 | Myrroddin | it isn't only whispering... there a few chat output types |
| 08:08.54 | Shefki | Well chat output is what I meant. |
| 08:09.02 | Myrroddin | i purposely left out /rw because not everybody can use that channel in raids |
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| 08:10.11 | Myrroddin | if it further puts your mind to ease, Jerry and OnAForeignShore have helped contribute, so you can as well |
| 08:10.18 | Gnarfoz | obvious: bloat it up with LibSink :D |
| 08:10.39 | Myrroddin | Evil glare at Gnarfoz |
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| 08:10.54 | Gnarfoz | funny, I seem to have messed up my formatting of nicknames |
| 08:11.15 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.5-release-5-g19146cc localizations/localization-enUS.lua: [+1 commit] touch for new file & locale methods |
| 08:11.22 | Gnarfoz | unidentified users are suffixed with a '?', however, when the line includes a hilight keyword, they're prefixed with it :D |
| 08:11.23 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r308 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:11.24 | Repo | Update StatusRole so that it's unlikely that it will spam errors when leaving battleground. |
| 08:12.06 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03Shefki * r64 SmartRes2.lua: Fix a syntax error in the self notification feature. |
| 08:12.25 | Shefki | There's other stuff to fix but I'll get to that later. |
| 08:12.48 | Shefki | Anyway off to watch a movie. |
| 08:13.06 | Myrroddin | and i'm going to watch Heroes |
| 08:13.14 | Myrroddin | but i'll stay in irc |
| 08:13.25 | Gnarfoz | awmygad |
| 08:13.39 | Gnarfoz | I forgot to add a Heroes torrent to my client before leaving for work -.- |
| 08:14.07 | theoddone33 | dbmftlbbq looks almost exactly like my version ended up looking |
| 08:14.19 | theoddone33 | I guess that's encouraging since I was just deleting tons of code |
| 08:14.43 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: RSS! |
| 08:14.56 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: no thanks? |
| 08:15.04 | Torhal | Bwah. |
| 08:15.14 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: ratio <3 |
| 08:15.35 | Gnarfoz | also: 3m/192k dsl, if something ever gets propered... xD |
| 08:15.37 | Torhal | Ah. Private. |
| 08:16.08 | Gnarfoz | I guess it's not on there yet, anyway |
| 08:16.29 | Gnarfoz | I prefer those itunes versions :D |
| 08:16.41 | Myrroddin | Gnarfoz http://www.tvduck.com/Heroes.html |
| 08:16.49 | Gnarfoz | awesome quality, no channel logos, not mangeled through recompression 5 times etc |
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| 08:19.04 | orionshock | ok, i just did something rather stupid with the web app i Imported a bunch (~30+) of duplicate entrys in the default namespace, there an admin around that can [help me] fix it :) |
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| 08:27.33 | orionshock | Torhal, nevcairiel ? ^^ |
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| 08:35.45 | Torhal | orionshock: Hmm? |
| 08:37.58 | orionshock | i did an import from script of my localizations, now i have duplicate entrys in the app. project is sick-of-clicking-dailies |
| 08:38.43 | orionshock | keep getting a "needs to be unique" error, so a delete or a merge is preferable to what i imported. |
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| 08:39.58 | Torhal | orionshock: Where do you see duplicates? |
| 08:40.17 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/addons/sick-of-clicking-dailies/localization/phrases/?search=LK |
| 08:40.19 | Torhal | It sounds like you're trying to add what already exists, and the database front-end isn't allowing it. |
| 08:40.42 | orionshock | i found a glitch, as the backend dosn't care about it being unique |
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| 08:41.22 | orionshock | ... i have a /tendancy/ to /find/ glitches that are exotic and backwards.... |
| 08:41.56 | Torhal | I don't understand how that's a multiple: There's LK and 'StaLKer", which both match "LK" |
| 08:42.10 | Torhal | For the search... |
| 08:42.38 | orionshock | Torhal, there are 2 "LK" entrys, one in "Base_All" and one in the default space --the middle one is irrelevant |
| 08:44.11 | Torhal | http://www.wowace.com/addons/sick-of-clicking-dailies/localization/enUS/?letter=l |
| 08:44.22 | Torhal | I only see one "LK" there, in Base_All |
| 08:45.03 | orionshock | Torhal, yes, can you move the on in Base_All to the default space? |
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| 08:46.47 | asmodai | koaschten_: latest GS fixes the print |
| 08:47.02 | Torhal | Base_All isn't default? I don't see "Base_All" in the dropdown. I do see "-- Base namespace --" |
| 08:47.39 | orionshock | yes, i panicked and forgot that deleting the namespace just removes access to it, it dosn't move any of the entrys around at all. |
| 08:48.04 | orionshock | i've put in a request to Kaelten, it probabbly needs to be fixed from the backend... |
| 08:48.18 | Torhal | So Base_All is a namespace you deleted? I'm not following... |
| 08:48.20 | Torhal | Heh |
| 08:49.30 | Torhal | Ok, yah - I just moved it to the AltTrackingModule to see if that would work and it did. Tried moving it to Base Namespace and got the error |
| 08:49.37 | Torhal | It's broken. |
| 08:49.40 | orionshock | i did a scripted import of my locale, it imported them into the DefaultNamespace. What i intended it to do is move the ones from Base_All into the default namespace as that's what using the web interface will do. |
| 08:49.43 | Torhal | ckknight_: Noob! |
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| 08:50.14 | orionshock | if you import a set of strings from several namespaces it'll pull them all into the specified one, thought that would happen.. |
| 08:50.49 | Torhal | Can't you change it in your locale file, select "Delete unused", and re-import? |
| 08:51.15 | orionshock | it only delete's unused for the specified namespace |
| 08:51.16 | Torhal | I don't think that's optimal, but may work. |
| 08:51.18 | Torhal | Ah |
| 08:51.53 | orionshock | otherwise the other namespaces would be empty atm as i didn't grab all the quest titles in that initial oopse. |
| 08:52.04 | orionshock | ... Torhal all this because i found a shiny new toy :| |
| 08:52.37 | Torhal | So this is how the GearScore shit began... |
| 08:52.39 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 08:53.43 | orionshock | hehe, sorta... i found shadow's "localecheck.lua" file in EG & saw that it scans and uploads to the web app in one stint.. for SOCD i needed special handling, so i merged BabbleFish.lua with it to a degree & ... it broke... |
| 08:55.23 | pompy | when u change an english phrase it doesnt seem to mark the other translations of that phrase as 'needs review' eitehr |
| 08:57.05 | Adirelle|work | oh, when I'm at it, is there anyway to detect if a Frame has been created using a given template (sort of "f instanceof template" feature) ? |
| 08:57.49 | orionshock | Adirelle|work, no? |
| 08:58.03 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/localization/phrases/340-scan_companions_desc/ |
| 08:58.07 | Adirelle|work | orionshock, damn it ! the world will collapse ! |
| 09:00.36 | Myrroddin | how do you close a poll on wowace? |
| 09:01.26 | *** join/#wowace dubf (n=quassel@79.161.98.146) |
| 09:02.31 | orionshock | Torhal, the fact that the GS author dosn't use any sort of Repo or CVS with a project as large as GS...indicates some degree of ignorance or stupidity... |
| 09:02.41 | Gnarfoz | @describe dungeontimer |
| 09:02.46 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/dungeontimer/. DungeonTimer. Template for creating new addons |
| 09:02.52 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 09:03.03 | Torhal | orionshock: The most awesome part is he isn't a rewards subscriber. |
| 09:03.07 | Torhal | :D |
| 09:03.10 | Torhal | cackles insanely. |
| 09:03.47 | orionshock | Gnarfoz, interesting addon... |
| 09:03.53 | orionshock | Torhal, how? |
| 09:04.24 | orionshock | thought all authors where a rewards sub once their addons reached a certain point of circulation |
| 09:04.27 | Torhal | orionshock: He never opted in for reward points. |
| 09:04.38 | nevcairiel | you have to sign up to receive points |
| 09:04.42 | asmodai | nevcairiel! |
| 09:04.46 | nevcairiel | you dont get them automagically |
| 09:05.58 | orionshock | well that's an automagic insta-fail right there |
| 09:06.08 | Torhal | orionshock: Does this surprise you? |
| 09:06.16 | orionshock | ... nope |
| 09:06.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 09:11.54 | Myrroddin | one day, i might even spend my points |
| 09:13.37 | Wobin | needs... oh 4k more |
| 09:19.13 | Kalroth | Wobin is saving his up for world domination |
| 09:20.12 | Wobin | or at least the cash reward =P |
| 09:20.22 | Wobin | because the amazon stuff would get eaten up by postage |
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| 09:24.11 | Myrroddin | I see US, UK, and German Amazon stuff.. does the US stuff work for Canadians? |
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| 09:32.35 | Kalroth | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Integer-Cache.aspx sweet |
| 09:32.40 | Kalroth | a cache of integer values |
| 09:33.57 | asmodai | That rocks |
| 09:35.34 | CrazyBenny | lol |
| 09:38.18 | krka | that's exactly what Java does internally |
| 09:38.37 | krka | http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/lang/Integer.html#valueOf%28int%29 |
| 09:38.52 | krka | it's possible that the sample is from earlier java, i.e. 1.4 |
| 09:39.07 | Chosi | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50293 instead of T9 ones? |
| 09:39.09 | Arrowmaster | it is, from the comments |
| 09:39.12 | Chosi | whaddayasay? |
| 09:39.14 | Chosi | (rogue) :) |
| 09:40.50 | krka | i don't get it, why is it a wtf |
| 09:41.08 | krka | an int cache is stupid, sure, but an integer cache has uses |
| 09:41.25 | krka | hell, most addon developers seem to love table caches in lua for the same reason :P |
| 09:44.26 | Arrowmaster | imho table caches are stupid now, but knowing when to throw away a table vs using wipe() on it does make a difference |
| 09:45.42 | krka | yeah i was talking about the generic reusage libraries |
| 09:45.59 | nevcairiel | i usually just cache hash tables that have the same members all the time, so i don't have to clear them ever |
| 09:48.51 | Wobin | has a two stage cache in the job at work |
| 09:49.18 | Wobin | but that's more for calculation caching than memory saving |
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| 09:57.03 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r186 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 09:57.05 | Repo | Do not fail for sarth firewalls if they do no damage (paladin bubbles instead of moves for example.) |
| 09:59.33 | Wobin | if the pally has to bubble to get out of the way, and isn't the tank, that's pretty fail =) |
| 10:02.44 | nevcairiel | might be valid for a healer |
| 10:03.12 | nevcairiel | our tank healer used to do that in some critical cases |
| 10:04.31 | Myrroddin | Shefki are you back? |
| 10:06.54 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: who said anything about "to get out of the way"? it clearly says "instead of" |
| 10:06.56 | krka | is tank healer a tank who is also a healer or a healer who heals tanks? |
| 10:07.30 | nevcairiel | a tank who is a healer that heals the tank! |
| 10:07.36 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 10:07.39 | Wobin | best kind imo |
| 10:07.40 | Myrroddin | that would be a Paladin |
| 10:07.45 | Wobin | or a druid |
| 10:08.31 | Gnarfoz | yo dawg we herd you like to heal while you tank... etc |
| 10:08.35 | Dessa_ | or a priest for the masochists? :) PW:S ftw :) |
| 10:08.36 | Myrroddin | or an over-geared DK in Blood Presence |
| 10:08.48 | Wobin | that's -very- overgeared |
| 10:09.44 | Myrroddin | i've seen a level 70 shad priest tank sethek halls |
| 10:10.03 | Myrroddin | and there was that whole 38 priests > onyxia video |
| 10:11.36 | Wobin | hehe that was entertaining |
| 10:12.36 | Chosi | can i move the combe points display in pitbull4? |
| 10:13.31 | Myrroddin | oh, yes, and don't forget the shadow priests tanking Mimron.... that's always fun! :D |
| 10:14.34 | Myrroddin | hmmmm maybe shadow priests are OP... but don't tell blizzard; I play one! |
| 10:14.49 | Chosi | orly? |
| 10:14.57 | Chosi | my gf is playing one |
| 10:15.04 | Wobin | she will melt faces |
| 10:15.11 | Chosi | doesn't seem too op, as she's only doing 1k dps at lvl 77 |
| 10:15.11 | Chosi | :D |
| 10:15.30 | Chosi | (it's MOST PROPABLY her fault) |
| 10:15.41 | Myrroddin | http://shadowpriest.com |
| 10:15.52 | Chosi | what's the lvl80 skill you get? |
| 10:16.59 | Myrroddin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.5.78#0-2+1 |
| 10:17.25 | Chosi | wow. new ranks only?` |
| 10:17.26 | Chosi | wtf |
| 10:17.27 | Chosi | :/ |
| 10:18.09 | Myrroddin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.5.613#0-2+1 |
| 10:18.28 | Myrroddin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.5.56#0-2+1 |
| 10:19.16 | Myrroddin | I see Divine Hymn is new at level 80 |
| 10:19.37 | Wobin | and hymn of hope |
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| 10:20.01 | Myrroddin | yep |
| 10:20.06 | Chosi | wow. |
| 10:20.07 | Chosi | :D |
| 10:20.40 | Myrroddin | but shadow priest don't want no namby-pamby nancy-boy weak-like-Susan holy spells... |
| 10:20.52 | koaschten_ | oh wow ... thats what i call getting screwed over by the dungeon tool |
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| 10:21.30 | koaschten_ | old kingdom, and the matchmaking obviously failed because anyone but me is in naxx gear |
| 10:21.32 | koaschten_ | and the tank left |
| 10:21.34 | koaschten_ | >:( |
| 10:22.08 | Myrroddin | Choisi don't forget Haste now improves SPriest's DPS... |
| 10:22.43 | Wobin | people in OK that -don't- interrupt the shadowcaster make me sad |
| 10:23.43 | Wobin | er. spell flinger |
| 10:23.58 | haste | jsut heal through it! |
| 10:24.06 | Wobin | ugh |
| 10:24.21 | Wobin | sure, I -love- healing 80% damage =P |
| 10:25.33 | Myrroddin | odd question, considering the addon i'm writing, but.... do the res spells benefit from increased spellpower? |
| 10:25.53 | Wobin | er, no |
| 10:26.04 | Wobin | you mean, do they become -more- alive? |
| 10:26.14 | Wobin | haste affects them, but that's about all |
| 10:26.26 | Myrroddin | more like: does the target come back with more health and mana? |
| 10:26.27 | Wobin | although I'd love if res spells could crit |
| 10:26.31 | Wobin | no |
| 10:26.45 | Myrroddin | didn't think so.. which is a bummer |
| 10:26.58 | Myrroddin | still better to be ressed by a priest then |
| 10:27.02 | haste | Wobin: don't whine! It gives you something to do :P |
| 10:27.14 | Wobin | pft |
| 10:27.18 | asmodai | koaschten_: But with your skill you make up for it, no? :) |
| 10:27.20 | Wobin | as a healer I just interrupt them myself |
| 10:27.26 | haste | bawww |
| 10:27.34 | Wobin | as the tank, I don't -want- to get hit for that damage =P |
| 10:27.58 | Myrroddin | Divine Aegis FTW? |
| 10:28.12 | Wobin | although wtb more interrupts on bear |
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| 10:28.16 | Wobin | Myrroddin, for what? |
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| 10:29.01 | Wobin | it's a flat 80% of the tank's max health in damage |
| 10:29.53 | Myrroddin | Wobin, taking less damage... along with the holy talent Inspiration: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=14892 |
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| 10:30.42 | Wobin | so that's 30% of a crit heal |
| 10:30.58 | Wobin | say... 16-18k heals? I have no idea anymore |
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| 10:31.08 | Myrroddin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47515 |
| 10:31.47 | Myrroddin | and don't bear tanks gain a passive shield? |
| 10:31.54 | Wobin | o.O |
| 10:32.24 | Myrroddin | great, i've destroyed Wobin's brain.... sorry, my bad :P |
| 10:33.10 | Wobin | all I'm saying is mitigation is not going to help much on a, say, 32k hit |
| 10:33.15 | Wobin | given a 40k tank |
| 10:33.36 | Myrroddin | no, i suppose not |
| 10:33.47 | Wobin | which is why dps that don't interrupt make me cry =P |
| 10:34.22 | Wobin | I'll do it if I can, but bear tank interrupts are few and far between |
| 10:34.28 | Wobin | we have charge, and bash |
| 10:35.14 | Wobin | and one has 15 second cooldown and a minimum range, the other has a 1min cooldown |
| 10:35.47 | Myrroddin | shhhh you are making bear tanks sound sucky. tip: get over 50% dodge and don't worry about it |
| 10:35.57 | Wobin | spell dodge? |
| 10:35.59 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 10:36.29 | Myrroddin | oh, well, in that case, you are doomed. DOOOOOMED, I SAY!! |
| 10:36.38 | Wobin | or dps can interrupt |
| 10:36.50 | Wobin | I'm not making bear tanks sound sucky |
| 10:36.54 | Wobin | I'm making stupid dps sound sucky |
| 10:38.59 | Myrroddin | excuse me while i become non-sucky for today's random |
| 10:39.00 | koaschten_ | at least i pulled my weight... |
| 10:39.06 | koaschten_ | 57% overall dmg done |
| 10:39.06 | koaschten_ | -.- |
| 10:39.17 | Wobin | =( |
| 10:39.40 | Myrroddin | you know it is bad when the tank is top 3 dps in a 10 man raid, right? |
| 10:40.13 | koaschten_ | he was 2 in my 5man with 23% |
| 10:40.21 | koaschten_ | you know what the math says then? |
| 10:40.32 | koaschten_ | heal + 2 dd @ 10% each |
| 10:41.18 | Myrroddin | it tells me the dps that was slacking shouldn't be playing the game. or, if i'm being kind, need way better gear |
| 10:42.13 | Myrroddin | if i'm not top 2 on my shadow priest during a 10 man, or top 5 in 25, or first place in a 5 man, i get pissy |
| 10:43.11 | koaschten_ | if you are top5 on 25man the rest of your grp suxx or you look at trash aoe performance :X |
| 10:44.20 | Myrroddin | when the raid is over, i check skada for only the boss fights |
| 10:44.31 | Myrroddin | since trash aoe skews the numbers so badly |
| 10:45.46 | Myrroddin | just between you, me, and the government spies, me and the other shadow priest don't think that highly of our guild dps. there are some players that put numbers up, but they are in the minority |
| 10:46.52 | Myrroddin | if you look at my gear, i'm getting behind the curve, as i can't raid during the week for the next few months. profile: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Myrroddin |
| 10:48.06 | koaschten_ | mumbles: Why do people never get it if you joke about hybrid dps..... |
| 10:48.24 | Kalroth | usually because you're right |
| 10:52.21 | koaschten_ | wait let me mark today in the calendar. |
| 10:53.26 | Wobin | ...Palin to work at Fox News? |
| 10:53.26 | Kalroth | Wobin: yes |
| 10:53.26 | Wobin | it's.. like a match made in heaven =P |
| 10:53.49 | Kalroth | Wobin: FOX had issues being seen as too fair and balanced, so they hired Sarah |
| 10:54.26 | nevcairiel | i really must be missing alot of fun not watching fox news |
| 10:54.32 | Wobin | not really |
| 10:54.45 | Wobin | from what I've seen it ends up with a lot of /facepalm |
| 10:55.53 | Kalroth | Watching Fox is like "haha, this is great, good comedy" - "they did not just say that! haha" - "wait, what? they're serious? ..." |
| 10:57.11 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY great FOX is great! :D |
| 10:58.40 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:59.42 | Kalroth | "anonymous get big lulz from pranks" |
| 11:00.32 | asmodai | nevcairiel: it's not fun if they are serious about what they say. |
| 11:00.44 | asmodai | nevcairiel: John Stewart has a few wonderful episodes on that |
| 11:00.53 | Zarnivoop | can raid lockouts be extended indefinately? |
| 11:00.54 | Wobin | They do it "For The Lulz" |
| 11:01.02 | Wobin | Duhn duhn DUHHHN |
| 11:01.03 | koaschten_ | yes Zarhan |
| 11:01.06 | koaschten_ | narf |
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| 11:01.09 | koaschten_ | Zarnivoop |
| 11:01.28 | Zarnivoop | great |
| 11:01.39 | koaschten_ | unless the servers get patched, like 3.3 |
| 11:02.05 | Wobin | hehe "truly EPIC LOLS" |
| 11:02.39 | nevcairiel | some friends of mine always keep a open ulduar id with freya alive to gather flowers in there .. handy feature :P |
| 11:03.08 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:03.12 | Wobin | especially for the frost lotus |
| 11:03.20 | nevcairiel | mostly only for that ;) |
| 11:05.46 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/012010/xzibit_macgyver-large.jpg |
| 11:06.36 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 11:06.37 | Wobin | also, rofl: http://raraahahahromaromamagagaoohlala.com/ |
| 11:06.58 | nevcairiel | doesnt load =( |
| 11:07.04 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:08.26 | haste | Wobin: best one in ages :P |
| 11:08.31 | haste | xzibit one that is |
| 11:09.44 | Wobin | s'true =) |
| 11:12.22 | nevcairiel | asmodai: they can't be serious, thats even worse then any tabloits around here :P |
| 11:13.12 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Believe it. |
| 11:13.16 | asmodai | sighs |
| 11:13.27 | asmodai | Why on earth would http://culturedcode.com/css/reference.html cause firefox 3.5 to continuously spin one CPU core at 100%? |
| 11:13.28 | nevcairiel | well i guess the average USian believes it |
| 11:13.28 | Arrowmaster | yes that macgyver one is the best |
| 11:13.36 | asmodai | I mean, sure, JS fucking up in some way. |
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| 11:13.43 | nevcairiel | asmodai: doesnt here |
| 11:14.07 | nevcairiel | but i'm on mozilla-central builds |
| 11:14.14 | nevcairiel | 3.7pre-alpha |
| 11:14.29 | asmodai | ah |
| 11:14.33 | asmodai | nevcairiel: any addons? |
| 11:14.57 | nevcairiel | flashblock, adblock, firebug, soem anti cookie addon |
| 11:15.19 | Wobin | not me either |
| 11:15.41 | Wobin | 3.5.7 |
| 11:16.16 | asmodai | mmm |
| 11:17.06 | Wobin | hm, that's a pretty good reference |
| 11:17.11 | Wobin | I'm glad I can see it! =) |
| 11:17.33 | nevcairiel | tbh i wouldnt care if one of my 8 logical cores is busy all the time :P |
| 11:17.40 | Repo | 10grid2: 03StingerSoft * r309 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRU update |
| 11:18.04 | asmodai | Wobin: :) |
| 11:18.28 | asmodai | nevcairiel: on my laptop I start to notice since it lags my browsing and the fan starts to audibly kick in |
| 11:18.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:18.50 | nevcairiel | my laptop only has one core =( |
| 11:19.14 | asmodai | Problem is, if I close the tab, the cpu stays pegged. |
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| 11:27.01 | Myrroddin | meds are kicking in... good night all! |
| 11:27.57 | Yivry | :O |
| 11:28.16 | Yivry | I just woke up :P |
| 11:31.19 | asmodai | grrr, has to be one of the addons, since safe mode shows no issue |
| 11:38.09 | robotusch | rustles Bibi- |
| 11:39.05 | nevcairiel | I wonder if fisker really never noticed that he "accidentally left" this channel |
| 11:40.08 | asmodai | ~nevcairiel++ |
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| 11:40.08 | Fisker | oh u |
| 11:40.14 | asmodai | nevcairiel: wtf |
| 11:40.19 | nevcairiel | someone told him :P |
| 11:40.22 | Fisker | no |
| 11:40.32 | asmodai | That was a bizarre coincedence |
| 11:40.40 | Fisker | completely |
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| 11:40.50 | asmodai | coincidence too |
| 11:41.07 | nevcairiel | remove is so much more fun then kick |
| 11:41.13 | nevcairiel | people usually dont notice very fast :P |
| 11:41.27 | Fisker | i don't notice either |
| 11:42.23 | asmodai | mmm, maybe I found the bloody addon |
| 11:42.33 | asmodai | nevcairiel: channel management option? |
| 11:42.34 | nevcairiel | how many addons do you run? <.< |
| 11:42.42 | asmodai | nevcairiel: in Firefox? About 20 or so. |
| 11:43.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Need a bunch for webdev, some related to research (zotero is wonderful, or firemath for mathml writing) |
| 11:43.33 | nevcairiel | for webdev i'm usually fine with firebug |
| 11:44.02 | asmodai | there's also Web Developer, YSlow, Page Speed |
| 11:44.20 | asmodai | It's All Text is nice if you like using vim to edit textareas :D |
| 11:44.31 | nevcairiel | i used to use web developer, but i didnt really use its features anymore |
| 11:45.08 | asmodai | DownThemAll! Morning Coffee, CheckPlaces, CodeBurner, Resizeable TextArea (why they haven't added this in stock ff :( ) |
| 11:48.06 | asmodai | Feck, not this addon :( |
| 11:48.12 | asmodai | XHTML Ruby seems to be the culprit. |
| 11:52.09 | evl | Is chat window mousewheel scrolling default now? |
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| 11:59.42 | asmodai | Think so |
| 12:07.06 | asmodai | bye bye Spider-Man 4 |
| 12:08.53 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r310 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: Add Gas Spore to ICC debuffs to watch. |
| 12:08.54 | Repo | Fix Ticket-72 |
| 12:18.18 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r311 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: Faster aura check. |
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| 12:47.32 | yoshimo | mhm, raiddebuffs are added to grid2, but still people say, the core isnt ready yet? |
| 12:49.28 | profalbert | it's amazing, since I use my own oUF-layout every other unitframe-addon seems flawed in some way |
| 12:50.43 | profalbert | like some odd behaviour in some special cases or some missing option |
| 12:51.03 | nevcairiel | Lua > options ;) |
| 12:52.38 | profalbert | well pitbull for example offers lots of options, they actually mostly suffice, but raid-group-frames behave oddly. I don't like the 25- 40-man raid filters. As our RL often keeps a 26th member in the raid |
| 12:53.52 | profalbert | And units go to the 2nd column although they are in group 3 because the last slot in group 2 is empty |
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| 12:55.01 | evl | Has anyone had any success with TCP ACK fiddling? Heard it's supposed to magically improve your ping |
| 12:55.09 | asmodai | evl: Worked a ton for me. |
| 12:55.17 | profalbert | breaks skype for me |
| 12:55.25 | asmodai | profalbert: Funny, no issue there. |
| 12:55.27 | evl | Some programs rely on ACK pretty heavily |
| 12:55.37 | evl | And seems ACK fiddling works better on wireless |
| 12:55.43 | asmodai | Well, in this case you are turning off delayed ACK. |
| 12:55.59 | asmodai | You don't fiddle with normal TCP ACK. |
| 12:56.34 | nevcairiel | I'm still unsure if the latency actually improves, or if its just a visual effect in the ping times |
| 12:56.37 | evl | wouldn't something spammy like torrents need delayed ACK? |
| 12:56.55 | profalbert | well was some time ago, when I tried. but pple claimed to have large gaps when I was speaking |
| 12:57.04 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 072.0 * r229 : Branching to start work on 2.0 |
| 12:57.18 | asmodai | nevcairiel: For me it at least fixed some of the bizarre lag spikes I had. |
| 12:57.21 | profalbert | It's funny though, when using the fix the ping equals about the ping I have on linux |
| 12:57.32 | nevcairiel | torrents should have enough payload to not require waiting |
| 12:57.34 | evl | I'm on OSX so probably the same for me |
| 12:58.15 | profalbert | and wine fixed the damn projected textures-bug in d3d finally |
| 12:58.19 | asmodai | profalbert: I think turning off delayed ACK would actually improve your Skype sessions since it will not wait on your wait for bundling data together prior to sending. |
| 12:58.47 | nevcairiel | the nagle algorithm is only really effective in low-bandwidth applications |
| 12:58.52 | evl | asmodai: you make is sound as if delayed ACK is always a bad thing, when is it a good thing? |
| 12:58.54 | nevcairiel | while speaking it shouldnt make a difference |
| 12:59.16 | asmodai | evl: It has its pros and cons. |
| 12:59.35 | nevcairiel | Delayed ACK trys to save one package that only contains the ACK and no payload, it waits for new payload to bundle the control package with the payload |
| 12:59.51 | profalbert | since I only use skype 1-2 times a year I could give it another shot |
| 13:00.02 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Nagle != delayed ACK t hough. |
| 13:00.33 | nevcairiel | Since WoW itself sets TCP_NODELAY on its own socket, i'm sure we're talking about nagle here |
| 13:01.27 | asmodai | double checks |
| 13:01.44 | evl | A friend of mine claims delay = 1 gives a lot better ping than 0 |
| 13:02.01 | evl | I guess 1 is nagle off |
| 13:02.23 | asmodai | Mmm, TCP_NODELAY is Nagle, but Nagle's algorithm and TCP delayed ACK are two different things. |
| 13:03.13 | nevcairiel | at least on windows there is a difference between the nagle and the nodelay option |
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| 13:03.48 | nevcairiel | there is TcpAckFrequency which is nagle |
| 13:03.49 | profalbert | Fiddling with windows default-settings always bears the risk that some other (poorly programmed) app does not work properly anymore. |
| 13:03.51 | nevcairiel | and TcpNoDelay |
| 13:04.10 | profalbert | s/bears/bares/ |
| 13:04.18 | nevcairiel | 1 is disabled, 2 is default |
| 13:04.25 | asmodai | For the technically minded, Blizzard made the TCPNoDelay function redundant, as Wow now includes it by default. They didn't change TcpAckFrequency. Leatrix Latency Fix changes that. |
| 13:05.06 | asmodai | Windows, by default, sends two acknowledgements for every two segments received. Leatrix Latency Fix sends one acknowledgement for every segment received. The number of acknowledgements sent in either case is the same, it's only the frequency which is different. The only additional upload bandwidth used is for packet headers. |
| 13:06.03 | asmodai | Amazing btw that it took until patch 2.3.2 to disable Nagle's. |
| 13:08.20 | asmodai | mmm, weird how he mentions net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0 since that's effectively Nagle |
| 13:08.23 | asmodai | net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack: Delay ACK to try and piggyback it onto a data packet |
| 13:08.33 | asmodai | Which Blizzard should already do via TCP_NODELAY |
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| 13:26.57 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r231 modules (4 files in 1 directory): Added some of the requested procs. |
| 13:28.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7014 Ulduar/Locales/koKR.lua: Ulduar: koKR Update |
| 13:32.24 | asmodai | heh, posted on reddit: |
| 13:32.25 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/vzFoC.jpg |
| 13:32.28 | asmodai | http://i.imgur.com/27Bz3.jpg |
| 13:32.48 | asmodai | to which someone replied: What you're seeing is an old prototype for Netherstorm, built before Burning Crusade's release. There are actually several prototype TBC locations that exist in-game, including a huge, empty Hellfire Peninsula. |
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| 13:34.36 | Silowyi | does @ work in macros yet, I forget if that was added already? |
| 13:34.45 | Silowyi | like /cast [@focus,harm,exists] Polymorph |
| 13:35.01 | Silowyi | or I guess I don't need the exists in there |
| 13:35.24 | nevcairiel | it should work |
| 13:35.33 | asmodai | what nev said |
| 13:36.25 | arkanes | asmodai: you heard about the levitate bug? |
| 13:40.46 | evl | I was thinking, why doesn't Blizzard has a repetition filter on chat channels? |
| 13:41.18 | evl | Half my chat is <Some Idiot> Same Message as the last 34 times |
| 13:42.08 | asmodai | arkanes: I read something about it, but don't fully understand what they meant. |
| 13:42.21 | asmodai | evl: Like gold spammers on multiple channels? ;) |
| 13:42.36 | evl | I just made my own filter in the end |
| 13:42.47 | evl | local lastMessage = messages[sender]Â :P |
| 13:42.51 | arkanes | asmodai: you can wall walk with it again |
| 13:43.26 | arkanes | asmodai: basically if you're tucked up against geometry, you won't slide down if you have levitate up so you can move side to side and get up all kinds of cliffs and such |
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| 13:48.32 | yoshimo | unfortunately things like that are fixed fast ;) |
| 13:48.49 | arkanes | not in the hotfix notes! |
| 13:50.09 | asmodai | heh |
| 13:50.09 | pentium166 | asmodai: did anyone say if those screenshots were taken on the actual live realms? |
| 13:50.22 | asmodai | pentium166: yea |
| 13:50.42 | yoshimo | arkanes, yes, but i doubt it will last much longer, wall walking is on blizzards Not-allowed list ;) |
| 13:50.44 | asmodai | Meyu of Chromaggus (US). |
| 13:51.09 | asmodai | yoshimo: tell that to the mobs walking back after combat ended, they scale some sheer cliffs :( |
| 13:51.35 | arkanes | jerky mobs :( |
| 13:54.03 | yoshimo | asmodai, mobs are allowed to cheat, teleport and walk through walls, and up a 90^° angle, players arent ;) |
| 13:54.04 | asmodai | bastards :( |
| 13:54.26 | asmodai | I still wonder how those gold spammers manage that teleport trick |
| 13:55.55 | yoshimo | well, messing with movement packages i guess, but they probably wont tell you ;) |
| 13:56.13 | Hjalte | When I woke up this morning, my phone and my laptop wouldnt connect to my wireless router, but my pc, which is connected through the router via cable, has internet. Any ideas? |
| 13:56.45 | arkanes | asmodai: a lot of movement functions are actually client side, including your movement speed |
| 13:57.04 | Wobin | Hjalte, your wireless is down? =P |
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| 13:57.27 | arkanes | asmodai: basically speedhacking is the price we pay for not having rubber banding |
| 13:57.28 | yoshimo | so if you are just messing a little and stay below the radar of blizz serverchecks it will work i guess ;) but we arent cheating, we are the good guys |
| 13:57.31 | Hjalte | Wobin: I connected to it on my pc and it seems fine. I can also see the network on the devices, it just fails connecting. |
| 13:57.50 | arkanes | collision detection is clientside too |
| 13:58.03 | yoshimo | what do you mean with rubber banding? |
| 13:58.16 | asmodai | jerky player movement when you watch others with higher latency |
| 13:58.26 | arkanes | no, I meant that happens to you |
| 13:58.43 | asmodai | arkanes: Instead we see people continue to run in place whereas they're elsewhere already :P |
| 13:58.45 | arkanes | like if you're lagging, you'll be running along and then you'll teleport back 20 yards when the server sync message comes in |
| 13:59.07 | arkanes | asmodai: imagine how irritating that would be if it affected your own movement and not just the way you saw others |
| 13:59.38 | asmodai | I play TF2, I am used to some shitty movement ;) |
| 13:59.45 | arkanes | they used to basically turn a blind eye to model swapping until people started using it to exploit and access unaccessible areas |
| 14:00.05 | arkanes | which demonstrated that collision detection was clientside too (pretty much has to be of course) |
| 14:00.17 | arkanes | like they'd replace the model for a campfire with one for a ramp, and use them to walk up walls |
| 14:00.37 | Wobin | they used to replace the campfire with the stairs to the BC portal |
| 14:00.55 | Wobin | Hjalte, change channel? |
| 14:01.17 | arkanes | the first use of it I saw was people replacing the WSG flag model with giant column |
| 14:01.25 | arkanes | so they could see the flag carrier from anywhere |
| 14:01.46 | yoshimo | i only know about changes for the brewest ramrace and baron runs |
| 14:01.48 | Wobin | I would have made the model ridiculously wide |
| 14:01.54 | Wobin | so I could click on it from further away |
| 14:02.07 | yoshimo | netherwing eggs and everfrost chips were increased as well and are checked now |
| 14:02.43 | yoshimo | wobin, does the interact check work clientside? so it doesnt matter where you are? |
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| 14:03.31 | arkanes | pretty sure range checks are server side |
| 14:04.00 | arkanes | there's a client side pre-check to avoid uneccesary traffic, if your client doesn't thnk you're in range it won't even try |
| 14:04.12 | arkanes | but the result of the interact comes from the server |
| 14:04.15 | yoshimo | so it wont help to click from far away if you just increase the object size ;) |
| 14:04.23 | arkanes | makes it easier to target |
| 14:04.45 | Gnarfoz | asmodai, pentium166: that's in Deadmines, though, not old by any means |
| 14:04.47 | Gnarfoz | err... new. |
| 14:05.02 | pentium166 | I was wondering, I googled the minimap location |
| 14:05.06 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: yeah, but it works due to the levitate bug being enabled again |
| 14:05.43 | Gnarfoz | server-side movement is... urgh |
| 14:06.00 | Gnarfoz | the old model, of course |
| 14:06.07 | Gnarfoz | (is that used anywhere on live?) |
| 14:06.15 | Gnarfoz | it's not like spiked models are a new invention, heh |
| 14:07.41 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 14:07.50 | Gnarfoz | did it stop working at some point? |
| 14:08.06 | Gnarfoz | because all you had to do was Blink through the instance portal |
| 14:08.17 | pentium166 | that one screenshot looks like the inside of dalaran before it moved to northrend or something |
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| 14:18.49 | Xtek | MOrning. |
| 14:19.53 | Silowyi | is lasttarget a valid unit? like /cast [@lasttarget] Polymorph |
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| 14:24.28 | sztanpet | no, but you can do /targetlasttarget /cast polymorph |
| 14:25.02 | ckknight_ | Xtek: howdy |
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| 14:25.17 | ckknight | Xtek: how cold is it? |
| 14:25.23 | Fisker | it's brrrrrrrr cold |
| 14:25.57 | Silowyi | sztanpet: I was trying to simplify the old target/focus switching macro. It could be done in two lines instead of four if lasttarget was a unit. |
| 14:26.15 | Silowyi | a.k.a. /target focus; /focus lasttarget |
| 14:26.52 | Xtek | ckknight fucking cold |
| 14:26.56 | asmodai | crap, who was asking about TTT last night or so? I guess he found an answer |
| 14:27.07 | ckknight | Xtek: k, is that colder or warmer than "balls cold" |
| 14:27.09 | ckknight | ? |
| 14:27.19 | Xtek | 62 degrees cold |
| 14:27.23 | ckknight | k |
| 14:27.29 | ckknight | bringing in my robe, then |
| 14:27.36 | Xtek | It'd be worth it. |
| 14:27.42 | Xtek | I think I'm just going to bring in bedding. |
| 14:27.53 | Xtek | Have a nice Duvet I can bring in. |
| 14:28.00 | asmodai | wtf |
| 14:29.36 | Silowyi | it's less than 62 degrees in my apartment and I'm in San Antonio, TX :P |
| 14:29.50 | steev | asmodai: me - i didn't, i'm just guessing it is "The Think Tank" on EJ |
| 14:30.04 | Silowyi | but I don't run the heater unless it gets below 58 |
| 14:32.26 | asmodai | steev: it is |
| 14:32.37 | asmodai | Theorycrafting Think Tank to be precise |
| 14:32.51 | asmodai | rofl, some hunter here with a fun idea, use this base talent spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cV0hZ0e |
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| 14:33.06 | asmodai | and starting wearing a shit ton of +int gear (which often has +crit too) |
| 14:33.18 | asmodai | glasscannon hunters XD |
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| 14:36.52 | Groktar | remembers the time he accidently bound taunt to his push to talk key |
| 14:42.03 | Silowyi | asmodai: The problem with that is AP costs less on the item budget than int? And frequently appears on gear that has agility which also gives AP... I can't see how you'd... oh... well... you know it would probably work VERY Well at early levels, where there really isn't AP gear. |
| 14:42.36 | Silowyi | at least until cataclysm |
| 14:42.39 | Silowyi | shrugs |
| 14:42.53 | Silowyi | hunter should blow through lvls 1-40 like they aren't even there though. |
| 14:46.31 | olafski | but how much +int gear will you find compared to +agi? I guess you could get "of the Falcon" items to get both |
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| 14:50.53 | yoshimo | i guess cataclysm will hurt people that spent large amounts of time with theorycrafting ;) |
| 14:51.11 | sb|work | don't think so |
| 14:51.25 | sb|work | reforging adds a new level of theorycrafting :o |
| 14:52.07 | yoshimo | i thought they remove complexity by removing armor penetration and other crazy stats? |
| 14:52.14 | yoshimo | what is this reforging? |
| 14:52.44 | Adirelle|work | yoshimo, sacrificing an item stat to add another stat, e.g. removing 46 agi to 23 str |
| 14:52.49 | Adirelle|work | to add 23* |
| 14:52.58 | Adirelle|work | IIRC |
| 14:53.56 | yoshimo | so we will only have leather with some crazy stats, and depending on your class&spec you reforge it and make it fit? ;) |
| 14:53.58 | Adirelle|work | actually I'm wrong: http://www.wowwiki.com/Reforging |
| 14:54.33 | Adirelle|work | you "convert" half of an existing to stat to a stat that isn't on the item yet |
| 14:55.17 | yoshimo | mhmm i hope they will add something useful for alchemists as well, everyone getting new recipes in raids hurts if i dont get any ;) |
| 14:59.35 | Repo | 10achievementsearch: 03warbaby * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): init 1.1 |
| 14:59.36 | evl | reforging seems better for hybrids tbh |
| 14:59.52 | quiescens | moo |
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| 15:02.07 | Groktar | sets fire to quiescens |
| 15:02.12 | quiescens | dies. |
| 15:02.44 | Groktar | strips off his clothes and dances naked around the pyre |
| 15:02.54 | asmodai | takes photos and mails them to Fisker |
| 15:03.20 | asmodai | yoshimo: how about jewelcrafting? We only have epic recipes :( |
| 15:03.48 | quiescens | to be fair I would probably say inscription and alchemy are the most lacking |
| 15:04.15 | kandarz | asmodai: I have a project for you! |
| 15:05.06 | asmodai | kandarz: yay |
| 15:05.18 | asmodai | kandarz: oh btw, remember that quest turnin delay/hickup? |
| 15:05.37 | kandarz | yes, you solve that mystery? |
| 15:05.43 | asmodai | kandarz: Seems that turning in a quest does get data from the server |
| 15:06.02 | Repo | 10achievementsearch: 03warbaby 041.1 * r3 : Tagging as 1.1 |
| 15:06.02 | asmodai | I did not have populate from server on, but turned in a quest and got that line about having retrieved data from server |
| 15:06.17 | Groktar | nibbles on asmodai's soul |
| 15:06.29 | quiescens | I think they're the two professions that don't even have anything over 440 skill or so? |
| 15:06.33 | asmodai | Groktar: I had none to start with. |
| 15:06.39 | Groktar | :( |
| 15:06.44 | asmodai | kandarz: Anyway, what project? |
| 15:06.47 | kandarz | Well, I don't know what to tell you, because turning in quests for me doesn't query the server |
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| 15:07.01 | asmodai | kandarz: I'll test some more ;) |
| 15:08.07 | kandarz | asmodai: Take the map data from http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=31052 or any other NPC that spawns in more then 1 location (that example is just easy to see) and deduce that EQ_QG should have 2 icons instead of just the average of all points on a map. That make sense? |
| 15:09.26 | asmodai | quiescens: jc has 450 recipes, but only from vendors with bloody shit ton of badges. |
| 15:09.44 | asmodai | kandarz: that link is not showing me any location data? |
| 15:10.04 | quiescens | but still |
| 15:10.17 | quiescens | inscription and alchemy don't even have 450 recipes at all as far as I remember? |
| 15:10.37 | kandarz | asmodai: you don't see the Wintergrasp map with 2 yellow dots on it? |
| 15:10.51 | asmodai | see the map but not the dots, let me refresh |
| 15:11.03 | kandarz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.03 | asmodai | Oh there we go |
| 15:11.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7015 Ulduar/Locales/koKR.lua: Ulduar: koKR Update |
| 15:11.13 | pentium166 | alchemy has a few 450 gem transmutes |
| 15:11.21 | quiescens | ah |
| 15:12.02 | quiescens | what about inscription |
| 15:12.08 | asmodai | But no recipes higher than level 400 it seems, you get the rest from trainers/quests |
| 15:12.38 | pentium166 | inscription's highest is the runescroll of fortitude at 440, according to wowhead |
| 15:12.45 | quiescens | I'm just saying, at least there is something to be gained from being 450 for most professions |
| 15:13.04 | quiescens | with inscription it would be like, yay, 450, now I can make |
| 15:13.07 | quiescens | nothing |
| 15:13.12 | kandarz | asmodai: so the format of that data is {zone: @zoneid@, coords: {@maplevel@[[x, y], [...]]}}, take all the coordinates from a zone and map level, see if they're close to each other, find a good point to put an icon on a map, or if they are far apart, decide how many points to make and where |
| 15:14.59 | pentium166 | i'm a shaman blacksmith, so all the profession provides me with is two additional sockets |
| 15:15.42 | pentium166 | i rarely make anything for other people and i don't have any plate-wearing alts |
| 15:16.01 | Repo | 10gmi-plus-lib-st: 03chaosknightz * r13 GuildMI.lua: line working need to remove from column 1 |
| 15:17.04 | asmodai | kandarz: the npc ids, I need the list in EQ's QGs part I take it? |
| 15:17.38 | asmodai | Haven't checked the QG part out yet in the addon, hence the question. |
| 15:21.43 | kandarz | QG is like GatherMate, a database of zones with coordinates relating to an NPC/Object/Item which is put onto the minimap/world map |
| 15:23.11 | asmodai | kandarz: yeah ok, but you want the npc ids to be double checked in this way, right? |
| 15:24.29 | kandarz | You've lost me now :/ |
| 15:25.06 | asmodai | kandarz: ok, let me rephrase, you want me to check npc ids and see how/where they spawn. |
| 15:25.29 | asmodai | kandarz: But do you want me to get the npc id list from wowhead as well or from EQ's QG? |
| 15:27.12 | kandarz | I don't care where the data comes from, I'm using LightHeaded NPC data to start (which is where the original QG data came from), I'm really looking for an algorithm to take n points and reduce to 1 or 2 points |
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| 15:37.39 | KriLL3_ | is there an addon that lets you swap audio output? or is that even possible? |
| 15:38.00 | olafski | ha krill3_, was waiting for you :P |
| 15:38.07 | nevcairiel | swap audio output? |
| 15:38.09 | olafski | I added the option to sell nonoptimal armor to my addon as you requested ,) |
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| 15:38.39 | KriLL3_ | I switch output between headphones and speakers on different soundcards all the time, but sadly wow gets confused when I do, the drop down list in the settings doesn't work right if I change which is the default audio device in windows |
| 15:38.47 | KriLL3_ | olafski: yay :D |
| 15:39.26 | KriLL3_ | I use different soundcards btw since my onboard has optical out for my speakers and my creative card doesn't, but doesn't hiss like a snake on the analog outputs |
| 15:39.35 | olafski | krill3_: if you want to try it you'll have to get it from curseforge, I haven't put it on curse yet as I haven't had a chance to properly test it :P |
| 15:39.45 | KriLL3_ | ... |
| 15:39.48 | Groktar | i can't imagine addons would have access to that |
| 15:40.03 | KriLL3_ | well addons can change the volume and mute |
| 15:40.16 | KriLL3_ | but yes I guess audio output choice might not be accessible |
| 15:41.02 | KriLL3_ | really weird that the drop down list stops working correctly if I swap default audio device in windows, it still works correctly if I don't |
| 15:41.19 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: should just be some cvars if anything |
| 15:41.32 | Gnarfoz | !api defaultaudio |
| 15:41.32 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'defaultaudio'. |
| 15:41.36 | Gnarfoz | !api defaultsound |
| 15:41.39 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'defaultsound'. |
| 15:41.40 | Gnarfoz | !api defaultplayback |
| 15:41.40 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'defaultplayback'. |
| 15:41.42 | Gnarfoz | grr |
| 15:41.44 | Gnarfoz | I know it's there! |
| 15:42.13 | Groktar | looks in the cvars |
| 15:42.14 | Gnarfoz | !api sound_output |
| 15:42.14 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'sound_output'. |
| 15:42.23 | Gnarfoz | well, it's in my config.wtf :< |
| 15:42.27 | Gnarfoz | (under that name) |
| 15:42.30 | KriLL3_ | I'm guessing the list is populated in order of default and not, if I swap in windows wow pins the wrong name to them |
| 15:42.33 | Groktar | can addons change resolution? |
| 15:42.45 | Groktar | because that's in config.wtf, too |
| 15:42.46 | Gnarfoz | sure, it's just a dvar |
| 15:42.52 | Groktar | hmm |
| 15:42.57 | KriLL3_ | not seen any, seen some that can change the drawing area though |
| 15:43.02 | yoshimo | why should they Groktar? |
| 15:43.05 | Gnarfoz | !api OutputDriverName |
| 15:43.06 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'OutputDriverName': Sound_ChatSystem_GetOutputDriverNameByIndex, Sound_GameSystem_GetOutputDriverNameByIndex |
| 15:43.11 | Gnarfoz | hooray |
| 15:43.21 | Gnarfoz | that's not the CVar either, but... related |
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| 15:44.10 | KriLL3_ | a bit weird that wow doesn't change audio output to the default device if you got it set to "use system default" btw |
| 15:44.42 | Groktar | !api Sound_OutputDriverName |
| 15:44.43 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Sound_OutputDriverName'. |
| 15:44.45 | KriLL3_ | you need to re-start the game for it to switch |
| 15:44.45 | KriLL3_ | guess it doesn't realize you can switch which is default while playing |
| 15:44.49 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: I tried that :D |
| 15:44.57 | Groktar | idk |
| 15:44.59 | Groktar | !api Sound_OutputDriverIndex |
| 15:45.00 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Sound_OutputDriverIndex'. |
| 15:45.02 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3_: wow "realizes" lol |
| 15:45.09 | Gnarfoz | you're talking about it like it's sentient |
| 15:45.16 | nevcairiel | wow is using a 3rd party library for sound handling |
| 15:45.21 | nevcairiel | blame that :d |
| 15:45.23 | Gnarfoz | fmod, but that changes nothing |
| 15:45.29 | asmodai | kandarz: darn, wowhead is using some ugly ass HTML :| |
| 15:45.33 | Gnarfoz | also, you could try /console restartsound |
| 15:45.38 | Gnarfoz | instead of restarting wow |
| 15:45.59 | nevcairiel | usually people dont change their system settings while running a game, anyway :D |
| 15:46.05 | Gnarfoz | !api restart |
| 15:46.05 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'restart': RestartGx, Sound_GameSystem_RestartSoundSystem |
| 15:46.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: obvious scrollback is obvious |
| 15:46.42 | nevcairiel | i said usually for a reason :P |
| 15:46.56 | Gnarfoz | irrelevant comment is irrelevant, then! |
| 15:47.03 | Gnarfoz | channels some Fisker |
| 15:47.12 | Fisker | TRIFLING GNOME |
| 15:47.13 | nevcairiel | try with other games, wonder if it would work there |
| 15:47.16 | Fisker | YOUR ARROGANCE WILL BE YOUR UNDOING |
| 15:47.34 | KriLL3_ | Gnarfoz: does a check then, you know what I'm talking about |
| 15:47.34 | KriLL3_ | Gnarfoz: hmm, I'll try that |
| 15:47.34 | KriLL3_ | nevcairiel: ok :d |
| 15:47.35 | krka | what does RestartGx do? |
| 15:47.36 | Fisker | You face not Fisker alone but the legions i command |
| 15:47.44 | krka | all of the graphics system? |
| 15:47.45 | Fisker | restart the GRAFFFFIIIIIIIIIXX engine |
| 15:48.06 | krka | is it made to workaround bugs, or to reload resources? |
| 15:48.45 | KriLL3_ | nevcairiel: well multi screen users can, or people using the same keybind/script I do |
| 15:48.53 | Fisker | idk krka |
| 15:49.07 | Gnarfoz | krka: why would you work around bugs by restarting the graphics system? :D |
| 15:49.28 | Gnarfoz | krka: if you can initialize it and shut it down, why not add a command to restart it ;p |
| 15:49.42 | nevcairiel | its used when you change certain gfx options |
| 15:49.59 | KriLL3 | yeah, or load that third party bloom effect someone made |
| 15:50.11 | krka | i see |
| 15:50.22 | Gnarfoz | actually, for "those" certain gfx options, they tell you to restart wow ;D |
| 15:50.41 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 15:50.58 | krka | We have some similar lua functions in our game, but mostly for reloading various content (effects, ui code, et.c.) |
| 15:51.19 | krka | just wondering if it was something for modifying game resources on the fly :) |
| 15:51.44 | steev | Fisker: FLESH TROMBONE |
| 15:51.52 | Fisker | no! |
| 15:51.52 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: why doesn't wow restart the graphics itself? |
| 15:52.06 | steev | Fisker: yes! |
| 15:52.16 | kandarz | asmodai: regex out the javascript needed |
| 15:53.15 | kandarz | asmodai: also, don't worry too much about getting the data. I can do that, I just need the reducing of points |
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| 15:58.09 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/localization-scrapper/. Localization Scrapper. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 15:59.33 | Groktar | nibbles on Repo's soul |
| 16:00.33 | pentium166 | om nom nom |
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| 16:01.39 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:02.40 | kandarz | asmodai: http://imgur.com/OJmKd.png |
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| 16:08.20 | harl | wtf |
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| 16:09.28 | harl | why do i have to kill wow.exe now every time i just want to logout.. |
| 16:10.51 | steev | keylogger imo |
| 16:11.38 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-18-g0d84890 modules/scan.lua: [+1 commit] Drycode fix, forcibly disable scanning of inspect while in combat to stop lag from mods that like to spam inspection on mouseover |
| 16:11.42 | harl | if you're referring to me then, uhm, no. |
| 16:13.01 | harl | works just fine with all addons disabled |
| 16:13.26 | asmodai | kandarz: blue dots? Only see one big one |
| 16:13.28 | asmodai | kandarz: also: |
| 16:13.37 | asmodai | % ./scripts/questgiver.py |
| 16:13.37 | asmodai | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=31052 |
| 16:13.37 | asmodai | myMapper.update({zone: 4197, coords: {0:[[53.1,20.8],[72.5,31.2]]}}); g_setSelectedLink(this, 'mapper'); return false |
| 16:13.44 | asmodai | Now I just need to parse that part ;) |
| 16:13.56 | asmodai | but, time to go home first |
| 16:17.29 | kandarz | use pythons json parser |
| 16:18.41 | kandarz | asmodai: end up with {zone: 4197, coords: {0:[[53.1,20.8],[72.5,31.2]]}} and parse for json |
| 16:24.59 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-19-g12a0ca1 modules/scan.lua: [+1 commit] Tweaked a bit more, scan disabled in combat and mouseover or target units will respect the inspection throttle |
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| 16:29.01 | Ingelagr | this makes it 3/3 |
| 16:29.13 | pompy | here come the putricide nerfs/bugfixes whatever they are . |
| 16:29.15 | pompy | Professor Putricide's Tear Gas will no longer remove player auras. |
| 16:29.16 | Ingelagr | i had all addons posted on mmo-champion before they where posted! |
| 16:29.24 | pompy | The Growing Ooze Puddles in the Professor Putricide encounter will no longer continue to grow while players are stunned. |
| 16:29.56 | steev | Good news everyone! Putricide is for casuals! |
| 16:29.59 | yoshimo | player auras sounds like bugfix |
| 16:30.16 | Groktar | doesn't sound like much of a nerf |
| 16:30.19 | yoshimo | steev, that would be "bad news everyone" ;) |
| 16:30.33 | yoshimo | not really Groktar |
| 16:30.43 | steev | yoshimo: not at all, i'm a casual :-P |
| 16:30.53 | steev | our best attempt last night was 54% although i gotta say |
| 16:31.02 | Groktar | 14% for us :/ |
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| 16:31.07 | steev | none of those "fixes" were any of our problem(s) |
| 16:31.13 | Groktar | yeah |
| 16:31.18 | pompy | two 10 man groups in my guild killed him. 2 heals works fine |
| 16:31.22 | Repo | 10achievementsearch: 03warbaby * r4 AchievementSearch.lua: |
| 16:31.24 | pompy | last night that is |
| 16:31.24 | Repo | fixed a bug that may cause freeze when typing in the search box |
| 16:31.29 | Groktar | 10 mans don't count |
| 16:31.31 | steev | 25 man for us |
| 16:31.46 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 072.0 * r232 / (6 files in 2 directories): More work on 2.0 |
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| 16:31.53 | Repo | 10achievementsearch: 03warbaby 041.2 * r5 : Tagging as 1.2 |
| 16:31.59 | steev | need the server to come up, need to buy more primordial saronite! |
| 16:32.10 | pompy | how much is it goin for on ur server |
| 16:32.11 | Groktar | in any case, i do think that entire wing is overtuned |
| 16:32.53 | Groktar | our alt run couldn't kill festergut (enrage) |
| 16:33.09 | pompy | i love when ppl cant move out of the slime spray on rotface |
| 16:33.12 | yoshimo | Groktar, maybe you just need some more items ;) |
| 16:33.12 | Groktar | and i'm pretty sure our alts > all but maybe 2 guilds on our server |
| 16:33.14 | pompy | so easy to avoid it |
| 16:33.47 | yoshimo | it will be "nerfed" by the zonewide buff if new wings are opened, so no need to do it now |
| 16:33.55 | Groktar | guess so |
| 16:35.08 | Groktar | we'll have to see how much the buffs are |
| 16:35.55 | yoshimo | meanwhile kill those ugly mobs :P |
| 16:36.15 | Groktar | my priest needs ivl264 gear :( |
| 16:36.35 | Ackis | I have a priest with i299 gear... wtb it? :P |
| 16:36.44 | Groktar | lol |
| 16:36.49 | yoshimo | private server? ;) |
| 16:36.57 | Ackis | nein |
| 16:37.04 | Ackis | I dunno what level gear is out |
| 16:37.04 | Gnarfoz | he just has grubby fingers |
| 16:37.09 | Gnarfoz | and wanted to write 200 |
| 16:37.09 | Ackis | he has a spectral tiger and kitten though |
| 16:37.09 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 16:37.12 | Ackis | and a cock mount |
| 16:37.18 | Groktar | i remember i got hold of a private server once during vanilla wow |
| 16:37.22 | Ackis | I HAS COCK MOUNT Gnarfoz |
| 16:37.28 | Groktar | and i made myself TWO HUNDRED DEE PEE ESS weapons |
| 16:37.32 | Gnarfoz | yes, we know you like the cock, Ackis |
| 16:38.13 | Groktar | and now real gear is so much better than that |
| 16:39.11 | yoshimo | 277 are the exalted rings, is there any thing higher? |
| 16:39.21 | Groktar | don't think so |
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| 16:40.44 | yoshimo | shadowmourne 284, but 25 heroic is 277 |
| 16:40.45 | Ingelagr | legendary isn't that 285 |
| 16:42.46 | yoshimo | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49623 |
| 16:43.33 | Gnarfoz | wut disconnects |
| 16:44.04 | pentium166 | shadowmourne's model doesn't look like it will stand out very much |
| 16:44.25 | steev | good |
| 16:44.26 | pentium166 | compared to say sulfuras |
| 16:45.06 | pentium166 | in an instance/expansion full of blue-coloured axes, have another blue axe |
| 16:45.10 | Groktar | sulfuras looked like a green |
| 16:45.12 | Groktar | imo |
| 16:45.30 | pentium166 | because it didn't have enough skulls or floating parts? |
| 16:45.49 | pentium166 | or particle effects |
| 16:45.57 | Groktar | particle effects + talking please |
| 16:46.21 | pentium166 | talking would be good, if it shouted BY FIRE BE PURGED to everyone with 1000 yards |
| 16:46.34 | Groktar | i was playing the corrupted ashbringer effects on vent the other day |
| 16:46.51 | yoshimo | i was hoping to get it cleaned one day ... |
| 16:46.52 | Groktar | fun reactions |
| 16:48.20 | pentium166 | I am sad that the slow 1h axes from 10-man ICC have arpen on them. |
| 16:48.52 | Groktar | for which class/spec? |
| 16:48.57 | pentium166 | enhancement |
| 16:49.00 | Groktar | o |
| 16:49.06 | Groktar | well, as enhancement |
| 16:49.16 | Groktar | your dps is just gonna be at the bottom no matter what |
| 16:49.17 | Groktar | :/ |
| 16:49.35 | pentium166 | well.. |
| 16:49.41 | pentium166 | we have an elemental shaman too |
| 16:50.19 | Groktar | our enhancement shaman finally got fed up toward the end of 3.2 |
| 16:50.21 | Groktar | and went dk |
| 16:50.37 | Groktar | we're a lot better off |
| 16:50.39 | pentium166 | but pulling 6500 dps on saurfang when the rogue pulled 8100 was a load of crap :) |
| 16:50.51 | quiescens | excuses! |
| 16:51.02 | Groktar | i wouldn't be upset about losing to a rogue on that fight |
| 16:51.10 | pentium166 | considering that it is my ideal fight too |
| 16:51.18 | pentium166 | at least they're nerfing them |
| 16:51.52 | Groktar | rogues *should* beat all the other melee on the a fight where they can just stand there and pew pew |
| 16:52.06 | Groktar | not to the degree that they had been doing |
| 16:54.23 | pentium166 | I think we would be better off if I had switched to DK or logged my druid instead of my shaman on wotlk release day, because then we could tell the second warrior tank to gtfo |
| 16:54.55 | Groktar | hehe |
| 16:55.03 | Groktar | my guild is down to 1 raiding warrior |
| 16:55.05 | Groktar | (me) |
| 16:57.20 | steev | so does Shadow's Edge actually have audio that plays when Arthas is whispering to you, or does it just show up as random chat? |
| 16:57.20 | nevcairiel | your chance to put pressure on the people! |
| 16:58.11 | steev | we're down to 0 raiding warriors |
| 16:58.39 | steev | our last warrior left the guild... when our dk who tops the dps meters almost constantly.... got awarded the first shadowmourne drops |
| 16:58.44 | Groktar | i took some time off for work from march-may last year |
| 16:58.51 | steev | he said it was to raid more... except he's never online |
| 16:59.17 | steev | well, i say tops |
| 16:59.19 | Groktar | and we had 0 warriors then, heh |
| 16:59.21 | steev | but thats not really true |
| 16:59.23 | pentium166 | at one point our (10-man) raid had 3 warriors and 3 shamans |
| 16:59.27 | steev | our rogue(s) constantly top them |
| 17:00.17 | Groktar | our enh shaman that went dk got the first drops |
| 17:00.32 | yoshimo | bring the player not the class |
| 17:00.36 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/dm5w17dooaspr9nw/sum/damageDone/?s=7711&e=7976 |
| 17:01.05 | steev | i still need to upgrade my cloak and do something about justicebringer |
| 17:01.16 | steev | actually, the cloak dropped off rotface last night |
| 17:01.25 | pentium166 | I'm wearing an Ulduar cloak still |
| 17:01.28 | steev | and the person who won it was going to give it to me, but i didn't let them |
| 17:01.31 | Groktar | that is some awful dps |
| 17:01.36 | steev | pentium166: same, i think, its a 219 |
| 17:01.37 | Groktar | oO |
| 17:01.59 | pentium166 | Because TOGC keeps dropping the spirit cloak when we even manage to do it, and that raid has no cloaks otherwise |
| 17:02.05 | steev | the person who won it also won the anub'arak cloak over me :-P |
| 17:02.21 | steev | but i got some bracers earlier in the week |
| 17:02.25 | Groktar | the 10m has decent cloaks |
| 17:02.28 | steev | bis sans heroics |
| 17:02.57 | pentium166 | I managed to get the 226 cloak off of vezax the one week our rogue couldn't come |
| 17:03.03 | Groktar | haha |
| 17:03.04 | Groktar | owned |
| 17:03.05 | steev | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50002 |
| 17:03.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7016 Ulduar (4 files in 2 directories): Ulduar: Locale fix |
| 17:03.53 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=45973 is my cloak :/ |
| 17:04.21 | steev | i do have ~30% arp though heh |
| 17:05.02 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Groktar |
| 17:05.09 | Groktar | really hoping a deathbringer's will drops this week |
| 17:05.14 | Groktar | so i can go full on arp |
| 17:05.29 | pentium166 | oh, I was also the first one to get the mjolnir runestone, in a fit of loot whoring, and i'm still using it :( |
| 17:05.31 | steev | our druid mora and our ret paladin hyperion both have it |
| 17:05.34 | pentium166 | I really want to replace that. |
| 17:05.51 | steev | we still haven't seen the melee or tank trinkets out of toc25 |
| 17:06.17 | pentium166 | I don't even know what the melee trinket is, just that it's supposed to be better than the 10-man one |
| 17:06.28 | steev | death's verdict |
| 17:06.42 | steev | death's choice (horde) (i think is its name) |
| 17:07.21 | Fisker | slaps steev around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:07.24 | steev | really need to push my rep to exalted |
| 17:07.27 | steev | kisses Fisker |
| 17:07.43 | steev | with tongue |
| 17:10.04 | Groktar | ew |
| 17:10.06 | Groktar | cooties |
| 17:11.10 | steev | more like cuties |
| 17:11.11 | steev | MIRITE |
| 17:11.41 | steev | ooh |
| 17:11.55 | steev | i did break 12k ap last night |
| 17:12.39 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/12kap.jpg |
| 17:13.58 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=115 |
| 17:14.03 | Groktar | 10k beating on a dummy! |
| 17:14.05 | Ingelagr | you didn't break your butugly ui though steev ! |
| 17:14.18 | Xtek | d |
| 17:14.22 | Xtek | woops |
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| 17:14.36 | steev | Ingelagr: correct! |
| 17:14.46 | Ingelagr | Groktar, which map addon is that |
| 17:14.48 | Ingelagr | chinchillA? |
| 17:15.41 | steev | Ingelagr: out of curiosity, what does yours look like? |
| 17:15.56 | steev | also, can't work on it anymore cuz the stupid servers are down for at least 2 more hours |
| 17:16.09 | Groktar | sexymap |
| 17:16.38 | Ingelagr | http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7161/wowscrnshot010210023506.jpg |
| 17:16.43 | Ingelagr | it's a work in progress though |
| 17:16.49 | Ingelagr | i have nobody targeted here btw |
| 17:16.54 | Groktar | too many buttons, imo! |
| 17:17.06 | Ingelagr | i have like half of it on my dk -.- |
| 17:17.10 | Ingelagr | fucking priest! |
| 17:17.23 | steev | hmm |
| 17:17.30 | Ingelagr | oh wait it dosn't look like that now |
| 17:17.30 | Ingelagr | the mini map is smaller and the sexycd thing is over the whole middle bart |
| 17:17.31 | Ingelagr | part* |
| 17:17.48 | Ingelagr | the sexycd thing is also castbar and chat type thing |
| 17:17.54 | steev | what is the error message for You can't do that yet, or Not enough runes? wowwiki doesn't seem to have it (or i'm looking at an older version of the errors) |
| 17:17.55 | Groktar | yeah, i have sexycd more in the middle |
| 17:17.58 | Ingelagr | very practical! |
| 17:17.58 | yoshimo | how can i insert tradeskilllinks into a makro? |
| 17:18.00 | Groktar | er, coolline |
| 17:18.04 | Groktar | same thing as sexycd tho |
| 17:18.11 | Groktar | i need it more in my face |
| 17:18.12 | Groktar | :p |
| 17:18.29 | Ingelagr | i love other sexy-addons |
| 17:18.34 | Ingelagr | maybe i should try sexymap too |
| 17:18.40 | steev | too many cooldowns, i had to disable using coolline type stuff |
| 17:18.41 | Ingelagr | just becuase i'm so sexy |
| 17:18.54 | steev | unless i can blacklist some of my abilities from showing up |
| 17:19.00 | Groktar | yeah, i filtered almost everything out of coolline |
| 17:19.37 | Ingelagr | Groktar, did you try sexycd |
| 17:19.41 | Groktar | basically stuff that's on short cooldowns i have on those 3 buttons |
| 17:20.22 | Groktar | bt/ss/ms, overpower/revenge/ww, and shield bash/pummel |
| 17:20.36 | steev | every one of my abilities shows up on them since they use runes :/ |
| 17:20.37 | Groktar | no, shield bash isn't on there |
| 17:20.42 | Groktar | i have tc in defensive |
| 17:20.49 | Groktar | yeah |
| 17:20.56 | Groktar | /coolline Death Strike |
| 17:21.02 | Groktar | etc etc |
| 17:21.08 | Groktar | have to type in every single one |
| 17:21.09 | Groktar | :p |
| 17:22.47 | steev | damn it |
| 17:23.02 | steev | what is the constant to "You must move closer to that character to interact with it" |
| 17:23.08 | steev | f'n hate that message |
| 17:24.09 | Groktar | errormonster |
| 17:24.14 | Groktar | turned off all that garbage |
| 17:26.19 | KriLL3 | why aren't spec changes instant & non mana resetting in sancuary/town? also why does it reset my mana? doesn't reset energy/rage does it? and nothing for classes without all those |
| 17:27.04 | steev | KriLL3: resets my stance as a dk :/ |
| 17:27.08 | steev | can't macro that shit either |
| 17:27.21 | steev | warriors doesn't seem to affect their stance |
| 17:27.34 | KriLL3 | yes you can macro switch, and dks don't have a stance, they got a presence =P |
| 17:27.49 | steev | KriLL3: okay... |
| 17:27.49 | KriLL3 | or do you mean you can't macro presence? |
| 17:28.22 | Ingelagr | why doesn't one include x/y placements |
| 17:28.22 | Ingelagr | why |
| 17:28.25 | steev | it resets the presence, and if you macro presence+switch, it takes you out of the presence, versus putting the presence after the switch... in which case you have to hit the button twice |
| 17:28.26 | Ingelagr | why is it os hard |
| 17:28.30 | KriLL3 | steev: here is my macro: http://pastebin.com/m1f3ee52c |
| 17:28.31 | pompy | Groktar: i get that message and i dont have errormonstor |
| 17:28.41 | steev | ... |
| 17:28.44 | Ingelagr | should be a fuckin need for an addon, if it has placements it needs to have x and y numbers |
| 17:28.45 | Ingelagr | <.< |
| 17:28.49 | steev | bear != dk |
| 17:28.53 | KriLL3 | yes I know |
| 17:29.03 | steev | and again |
| 17:29.05 | steev | as a dk |
| 17:29.12 | steev | switching specs takes you out of all presences |
| 17:29.27 | KriLL3 | sounds lovely |
| 17:29.29 | steev | so switching the presence before specs, does NOTHING |
| 17:29.36 | steev | except waste a rune |
| 17:29.43 | pompy | +ERR_TOO_FAR_TO_INTERACT = "You need to be closer to that character to interact with it"; |
| 17:29.53 | steev | pompy: where did you find that? |
| 17:29.54 | KriLL3 | about as nice as the bug that made druids exit flightform upon leaving bg/instance |
| 17:29.57 | pompy | steev: ptr diffs |
| 17:29.59 | pompy | framexml; |
| 17:30.05 | pompy | from 3.3 |
| 17:30.15 | KriLL3 | fun to faceplant after leaving a BG |
| 17:30.28 | pompy | that added that into 10958 |
| 17:30.32 | pompy | they* |
| 17:30.40 | steev | pompy: hm, okay now to find the rune one - why isn't that in global strings? |
| 17:31.02 | pompy | steev: it is |
| 17:31.08 | pompy | the interact string? |
| 17:31.09 | steev | http://wowcompares.com/33010958/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 17:31.21 | steev | gah, wth |
| 17:31.32 | steev | i must have searched the wrong word |
| 17:31.35 | steev | closer brings it right up |
| 17:31.38 | pompy | i searched 'closer' |
| 17:31.39 | pompy | yeah |
| 17:31.40 | pompy | ;p |
| 17:31.46 | steev | yeah, i was looking for "must move" |
| 17:31.58 | steev | and there it is |
| 17:32.02 | steev | ERR_OUT_OF_RUNES |
| 17:32.03 | steev | thanks |
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| 17:34.34 | steev | steals more of haste's code |
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| 17:37.47 | evl | Hmms, tbl = {2, 3, 6} how can I check if tbl contains a certain value? |
| 17:37.56 | nevcairiel | iterate |
| 17:38.05 | Ingelagr | obliterate |
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| 17:41.57 | genetik- | exterminate |
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| 17:46.24 | Yivry | hmm cartographer is stopped? |
| 17:47.11 | durcyn | oh, for a few years now |
| 17:47.41 | Yivry | lol |
| 17:47.56 | nevcairiel | indeed |
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| 17:48.45 | Yivry | what is currently the most used map mod? |
| 17:49.09 | durcyn | mapster |
| 17:49.13 | asmodai | mapster |
| 17:49.20 | nevcairiel | (totally unbiased opionion) mapster |
| 17:49.21 | durcyn | gathermate for the other bits |
| 17:49.31 | asmodai | Nechckn: lies! |
| 17:49.33 | asmodai | err |
| 17:49.36 | haste | steev: lol wut :p ? |
| 17:49.37 | asmodai | nevcairiel: lies! |
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| 17:50.28 | fewyn | mapster > * |
| 17:50.35 | Pneumatus | +1 for mapster |
| 17:50.45 | Yivry | mapster indeed looks like just what you want :P |
| 17:50.59 | Pneumatus | cart is the most used still though |
| 17:51.13 | Yivry | its broken bigtime >.< |
| 17:51.14 | durcyn | only by people who don't know better |
| 17:51.19 | kandarz | @project mapster |
| 17:51.20 | Pneumatus | yah |
| 17:51.29 | Repo | kandarz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mapster/. Mapster. Game: WoW. Nevcairiel (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago. Tickets: 6/35 |
| 17:51.49 | nevcairiel | hm new tickets |
| 17:51.56 | Yivry | ouch lol |
| 17:52.14 | Pneumatus | mapster is less popular than both cart2 + cart3, and even a couple of the cart2 plugins :o |
| 17:52.32 | nevcairiel | except that cart doesnt work anymore :P |
| 17:52.34 | fewyn | well that's because people are idiots |
| 17:52.35 | kandarz | But it works |
| 17:52.38 | Pneumatus | quite |
| 17:52.45 | Pneumatus | and it's maintained |
| 17:53.05 | Pneumatus | and no, i don't count bandaid patches by retards to cart[23] as maintained :) |
| 17:53.16 | yoshimo | cant you just lock down cartos repos? |
| 17:53.23 | yoshimo | so people cant fix it ;) |
| 17:53.29 | Pneumatus | im sure if ckk wanted them locked down he would do so |
| 17:54.19 | yoshimo | you could also say, stupid users dont deserve a better addon ;) |
| 17:54.19 | Stanzilla | letting other people fix it is part of the plan :p |
| 17:54.23 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:55.06 | KriLL3 | a TOC bump isn't really a fix... |
| 17:55.49 | yoshimo | there were some people that fixed more than toc, but still i think it should die |
| 17:56.12 | Pneumatus | unfortunatly maintainers have a habit of breaking more than they fix |
| 17:56.19 | Pneumatus | like jerryblade with headcount |
| 17:56.43 | Axodious | so who's heard of post-avatar depression? lol |
| 17:56.59 | KriLL3 | Axodious: you're sad because you're not tall and blue? |
| 17:57.06 | Axodious | not me (i havent seen it yet) |
| 17:57.14 | Axodious | there was a goofy news report about it yesterday |
| 17:57.26 | Axodious | apparently people are literally becomming depressed after watching it |
| 17:57.46 | KriLL3 | guess they're short and red |
| 17:57.50 | Axodious | lol |
| 17:58.15 | pentium166 | i am tall and blue though |
| 17:58.31 | KriLL3 | luminescent doesn't count as blue |
| 17:58.39 | arkanes_ | see its funny because "blue" is commonly used to mean "sad" |
| 17:59.08 | Groktar | scampers off with arkanes' soul |
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| 18:00.40 | Torhal | Groktar: You n'wah! |
| 18:00.57 | Yivry | avatar was awesome! (seen it in 3d) |
| 18:01.26 | pentium166 | dunmer were more of a green colour |
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| 18:01.41 | Torhal | Hah |
| 18:01.45 | Pneumatus | i saw it in 2d, and thought it was awesome |
| 18:01.57 | Axodious | im gonna go see it friday in 3d |
| 18:02.05 | Torhal | I saw a telesync and thought "Fuck this. I need to hit IMAX" |
| 18:02.27 | Pneumatus | i'd pay to see it a 2nd time in the cinema actually |
| 18:02.31 | nicoli_s | i liked it in 3d |
| 18:02.33 | Pneumatus | and there's not many movies i'd do that for |
| 18:02.38 | pentium166 | I did see it a second time |
| 18:02.42 | nicoli_s | just didnt like paying 22 bucks for 2 tickets |
| 18:03.18 | Pneumatus | sounds cheap. |
| 18:03.40 | nicoli_s | really? i remember when movie tickets were like 5 bucks |
| 18:04.01 | Pneumatus | in the UK, the 3d version is like 9GBP per ticket, so ~15USD |
| 18:04.02 | arkanes_ | I remember wearing an onion on my belt to go to the movies |
| 18:04.51 | pentium166 | did you have to travel uphill both ways in the snow in your grandpa's pajamas? |
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| 18:07.09 | steev | i need to change my spec |
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| 18:14.09 | Trela | ARRR! |
| 18:16.53 | Yivry | gah WoW still is boring >.< |
| 18:17.04 | Ackis | duh :P |
| 18:17.13 | arkanes_ | Yivry: we're guild-switching to HKO |
| 18:17.26 | Axodious | hko? |
| 18:17.28 | Torhal | Ackis: TRAITOR! I know you're playing HKW! |
| 18:17.30 | Groktar | trouts Torhal |
| 18:17.37 | arkanes_ | hello kitty online |
| 18:17.40 | Torhal | arkanes_: Or is it HKO? |
| 18:17.42 | Torhal | Ah |
| 18:17.48 | Torhal | Damn, I fucked that acronym up |
| 18:17.49 | arkanes_ | it's going to be great once they nerf magic lollipops |
| 18:17.55 | Yivry | hello kitty online? *sigh* |
| 18:17.58 | Trela | I hunger. *Noms on people.* |
| 18:17.59 | Ackis | Torhal: :D |
| 18:18.01 | Ackis | meow |
| 18:18.08 | Groktar | creeps up behind Trela |
| 18:18.12 | Groktar | nerfs him |
| 18:18.12 | Yivry | wtb lego universe! :P |
| 18:18.25 | Torhal | I hear they write AddOns with glitter. |
| 18:18.26 | Ackis | Torhal: I tried STO for a night |
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| 18:18.29 | profalbert | wow running minion in background brings me down to 7-10 FPS (from 30) |
| 18:18.40 | Torhal | Ackis: Yah? Shitty I take it... |
| 18:18.46 | arkanes_ | it noms your file io |
| 18:18.49 | Ackis | nah was a lot of fun |
| 18:18.56 | Torhal | Then why for one night? |
| 18:19.01 | arkanes_ | I'm going to give galaxies a shot |
| 18:19.12 | Ackis | because I'm getting married and I won't have enough time to play |
| 18:19.16 | Ackis | called being responsible |
| 18:19.19 | arkanes_ | pfft |
| 18:19.24 | Ackis | I also applied at best buy to get a second job :| |
| 18:19.30 | Torhal | Ackis: Bah. She used to play as well. |
| 18:19.31 | arkanes_ | Ackis: man |
| 18:19.44 | nevcairiel | see where marriage gets you, no more playing and a second job |
| 18:19.52 | asmodai | And that was the last we saw of Ackis for a veeeeeeeerrrry long time |
| 18:19.53 | Ackis | lmao |
| 18:19.53 | Torhal | Ackis: Being responsible is updating your AddOns! |
| 18:19.55 | arkanes_ | Ackis: you should try to get a job with some dignity and some career options, like digging outhouses |
| 18:20.07 | Ackis | Torhal: I was responsible, I conned you into doing it |
| 18:20.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:20.24 | Ackis | arkanes_: I have a career, but I need more $$ so best buy is a second "job" |
| 18:20.24 | Torhal | Ackis: But you get all the points for it, so I slack like a motherfucker. |
| 18:20.27 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:20.35 | Ackis | you get a lot of points :P |
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| 18:20.55 | Axodious | zzzz release date for sw:tor spring 2011 :( |
| 18:20.55 | Fisker | RAGE |
| 18:20.59 | Torhal | dances on Groktar's scrotum. |
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| 18:21.24 | arkanes_ | good chance I'll be divorced by then |
| 18:21.33 | arkanes_ | so I'll have time to play wow *and* galaxies! |
| 18:21.41 | Groktar | nerfs Torhal next |
| 18:21.45 | KriLL3 | TOR? |
| 18:21.45 | Ackis | star wars galaxies is shit |
| 18:21.56 | arkanes_ | er, not galaxies |
| 18:21.59 | arkanes_ | but old republic |
| 18:22.01 | Torhal | BWAH |
| 18:22.03 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 18:22.48 | arkanes_ | wife is whoring it up with some 20 year old farm boy in virginia :( |
| 18:23.07 | Groktar | :( |
| 18:23.32 | asmodai | Anyway, back to cooking Indonesian food |
| 18:24.32 | winkiller | are there any technical reasons to switch from oRA2 to oRA3? :P |
| 18:24.56 | sb|work | technical its 3 > 2 :p |
| 18:25.28 | Groktar | doesn't see why he needs ora |
| 18:25.41 | arkanes_ | nobody needs ora |
| 18:25.50 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2503 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added T10 to EoF page |
| 18:25.53 | arkanes_ | I mainly use it for the zone check |
| 18:25.53 | Torhal | oRAL? |
| 18:26.02 | steev | star wars galaxies didn't used to be shit :( |
| 18:26.05 | arkanes_ | winkiller: 3 is way more awesome |
| 18:26.09 | winkiller | think I've been using oRA2 since forever |
| 18:26.14 | nevcairiel | I required it off all members for the cooldown checks |
| 18:26.18 | winkiller | couldn't tell what it actually does atm |
| 18:26.20 | KriLL3 | steev: I tried it before and after the gameplay changes, was shit both times for me |
| 18:26.52 | steev | KriLL3: was my first mmo |
| 18:28.35 | KriLL3 | it was out before wow wasn't it? |
| 18:28.57 | steev | yes |
| 18:28.59 | KriLL3 | possibly the first mmo I tried also then, but I didn't like it, gameplay was much too point and click |
| 18:29.24 | steev | i played it since launch :( even pre-ordered the collectors edition |
| 18:29.49 | KriLL3 | tried it at launch and then when the pack came out with the flying part, total experience or something |
| 18:29.57 | arkanes_ | the idea of a multiplayer star wars game has always seemed pretty bland to me |
| 18:30.21 | KriLL3 | it's ok as long as half the players aren't jedis |
| 18:30.32 | arkanes_ | being a jedi is half the point of a star wars game |
| 18:30.45 | pentium166 | if you can't recreate the entire battle of hoth then it's not worth playing imo |
| 18:30.48 | KriLL3 | well perhaps, but it kinda ruins the tone if everyone is |
| 18:30.48 | arkanes_ | if you're not a jedi, or at least interacting with them and the characters of the trilogy, it's just sub par scifi |
| 18:31.03 | arkanes_ | KriLL3: thats exactly why multiplayer star wars is awkward |
| 18:31.13 | KriLL3 | yeah, star wars is about being special... |
| 18:31.16 | KriLL3 | if everyone is... |
| 18:31.21 | KriLL3 | no one is |
| 18:31.29 | arkanes_ | bioware is taking an interesting direction with tor |
| 18:31.48 | arkanes_ | and I actually don't have any real faith that it will work, but I'm interested in seeing it |
| 18:32.00 | arkanes_ | so I'll pony up my 60 bucks or whatever for that |
| 18:32.03 | KriLL3 | would be cool if jedi was a higher tier thing you could become at endgame or something like that, so you don't start as a jedi |
| 18:32.25 | KriLL3 | kinda like prestige classes in NWN |
| 18:32.31 | pentium166 | I don't think star wars needs an endgame |
| 18:32.45 | KriLL3 | all mmos need an endgame |
| 18:32.57 | KriLL3 | or should you stop playing at maxlevel? |
| 18:33.07 | pentium166 | Does EVE have an end game? |
| 18:33.15 | KriLL3 | no but it's boring |
| 18:33.16 | arkanes_ | depends on your definition |
| 18:33.22 | pentium166 | That has nothing to do with it |
| 18:33.27 | pentium166 | I find it pretty boring |
| 18:33.32 | arkanes_ | eve is nothing *but* endgame |
| 18:33.41 | pentium166 | Then it has no meaning |
| 18:33.44 | KriLL3 | arkanes_: true actually |
| 18:33.44 | arkanes_ | sure |
| 18:33.55 | pentium166 | If there's no early game or leveling or whatever |
| 18:34.00 | arkanes_ | star wars doesn't need an endgame, if theres no leveling path |
| 18:34.04 | asmodai | Eve, the boring spreadsheet |
| 18:34.08 | arkanes_ | I doubt that would actualyl work though |
| 18:34.23 | KriLL3 | eve could have been so much cooler if it wasn't aimed at spreed sheet nerds |
| 18:34.24 | pentium166 | I'm thinking more along the lines of galaxies than TOR though |
| 18:34.37 | arkanes_ | the game needs something for people to do |
| 18:34.46 | KriLL3 | at least let people pilot the fighter sized ships with a joystick/gamepad |
| 18:34.54 | arkanes_ | some games have more than one thing, even basically has just the 1 |
| 18:35.08 | arkanes_ | *eve |
| 18:35.16 | KriLL3 | point & click interface for a space ship doesn't feel that natural... |
| 18:35.38 | pentium166 | For the capital ships I think it's the only way to go, but not for fighters |
| 18:35.44 | KriLL3 | agreed |
| 18:36.43 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2794 Docs/Main.txt: Nuke holiday message |
| 18:36.49 | Ackis | HOLY SHIT A COMMIT! |
| 18:36.52 | pentium166 | But if you were able to be a Han Solo-style smuggler or whatever and actually able to pilot from system to system and land in sketchy spaceports and stuff like that, I'd be all over it |
| 18:37.34 | KriLL3 | also horribly annoying that pvp in eve has such high stakes, and you got gate ganked by 5 guys that played the game since launch vs your month old char |
| 18:37.44 | arkanes_ | pentium166: well then you're basically playing eve |
| 18:37.48 | koaschten_ | zomg Ackis is alive |
| 18:37.52 | KriLL3 | if you get killed you loose your ship and all equipment on it, that's a bit like loosing all your gear in wow if you die |
| 18:37.55 | arkanes_ | pentium166: or are you talking about what eve doesn't do :P |
| 18:38.22 | Yivry | EVE sucks... had a trial but didnt even touch it after the first day |
| 18:38.38 | arkanes_ | I'd try an MMO based on freelancer |
| 18:40.23 | KriLL3 | arkanes_: starlancer was better imo |
| 18:40.29 | KriLL3 | better storytelling and controls |
| 18:40.29 | pentium166 | I'm thinking more like the open-endedness of eve but with actual joystick piloting and ground-based stuff |
| 18:40.29 | arkanes_ | don't think I played that |
| 18:40.35 | KriLL3 | it was the prior title |
| 18:40.43 | KriLL3 | had gamepad/joystick controls |
| 18:41.10 | pentium166 | My dream scifi mmo is never going to get made though :( |
| 18:42.06 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lockdots/. LockDots. Xocide (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 18:42.31 | KriLL3 | why did space sims die off anyway? |
| 18:42.33 | KriLL3 | awesome genre |
| 18:42.45 | KriLL3 | and would look even better with current graphics |
| 18:43.07 | pentium166 | apparently because freespace 2 sold no copies |
| 18:43.24 | KriLL3 | can't be true, I bought it |
| 18:43.27 | KriLL3 | so at least 1 copy |
| 18:43.37 | yoshimo | krill, you mean things like freelancer or darkstar one, or more traderelated? |
| 18:43.46 | KriLL3 | non trade |
| 18:43.54 | koaschten_ | Orion 2 ! |
| 18:43.57 | KriLL3 | aka freelancer, starlancer, freespace etc |
| 18:44.09 | KriLL3 | the trade ones are too close to EvE in gameplay... |
| 18:44.28 | yoshimo | i liked darkstar one, but the copy protection was a bit too good |
| 18:44.51 | arkanes_ | freespace was pretty fun as I recall |
| 18:44.52 | KriLL3 | a spreadsheet of the stock exchange with totally redundant space graphics on top |
| 18:46.01 | yoshimo | my favourites are freelancer and darkstar one, the rest has too much trading |
| 18:46.40 | KriLL3 | starlancer for me |
| 18:46.48 | KriLL3 | though it doesn't stack up that well graphically nowadays |
| 18:48.34 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Beta4-10-geb47056 Locales/testenUS.lua: [+1 commit] Comment out L[ALT_COLLECTION_DESC] as it's not used (might be eventually) |
| 18:50.04 | KriLL3 | is there a way in pitbull to hide the power bar if it's full/empty? |
| 18:50.17 | Stanzilla | no |
| 18:50.22 | KriLL3 | :( |
| 18:51.36 | KriLL3 | would be nice to only see mana bars if they're not full, or only see DK's rune power if it's not empty etc |
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| 18:53.25 | Gnarfoz | @project dungeontimer |
| 18:53.26 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/dungeontimer/. DungeonTimer. Game: WoW. Quaiche (Manager/Author). Updated: 91 minutes ago |
| 18:54.19 | Gnarfoz | that's... basically identical to DungeonSpeedRunner? |
| 18:54.28 | Gnarfoz | or does DSR require you to use LFD |
| 18:54.52 | yoshimo | WAU didnt require any website account back then, did it? |
| 18:55.44 | Gnarfoz | that's correct |
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| 18:56.39 | PProvost | Gnarfoz: not the same as DungeonSpeedRunner |
| 18:56.55 | PProvost | DSR requires you to use the random |
| 18:57.07 | PProvost | Since it traps the event for the payout |
| 18:57.33 | PProvost | DungeonTimer will track any WotLK 5-man |
| 18:57.41 | PProvost | regardless of how you started it |
| 18:57.46 | Gnarfoz | (not that that would be a terrible inconvenience, since... why would you ever *not* use the LFD :D) |
| 18:57.55 | PProvost | Not jsut the LFD |
| 18:58.01 | PProvost | But RANDOM |
| 18:58.39 | KriLL3 | well once you run HoR a couple of times there isn't much of a reason to pick one specific instance |
| 18:58.46 | Gnarfoz | you're saying some event fires when using LFD random that doesn't fire when I just use LFD for a specific dungeon? |
| 18:58.46 | PProvost | Achievements? |
| 18:58.50 | PProvost | To help someone else? |
| 18:58.52 | PProvost | etc |
| 18:58.54 | PProvost | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 18:59.02 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 18:59.03 | koaschten | yeah random lfd fires the extra badge event at the end |
| 18:59.13 | Megalon | LFG_COMPLETION_REWARD |
| 18:59.15 | Gnarfoz | /facepalm |
| 18:59.16 | PProvost | yep |
| 18:59.18 | PProvost | that one |
| 18:59.27 | Megalon | that's how I track daily heroic |
| 18:59.29 | Gnarfoz | why not make that a "LFD_INSTANCE_COMPLETED" event with arguments |
| 18:59.35 | PProvost | Ask Blizz |
| 18:59.35 | Gnarfoz | blizzard boggles my mind some times |
| 18:59.40 | koaschten | ;) |
| 18:59.57 | PProvost | I'm trying to decide if I should track the time if you skipped any bosses in the instance |
| 19:02.33 | KriLL3 | you usually skip as many as possible in randoms |
| 19:02.48 | PProvost | Yes, but should that count in your "best time"? |
| 19:02.54 | KriLL3 | gives more badges, unless there is hardly any trash |
| 19:02.55 | PProvost | Right now I don't care |
| 19:03.00 | PProvost | Kill the last boss, I track it |
| 19:03.10 | KriLL3 | PProvost: yes it should imo |
| 19:03.36 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: ping |
| 19:03.49 | KriLL3 | love btw getting people in leveling blues saying "durr more bosses = more badges, lets do all bosses!" |
| 19:03.52 | PProvost | That's what it does now |
| 19:04.04 | PProvost | KriLL3: people who can't do math |
| 19:04.08 | KriLL3 | exactly |
| 19:04.11 | PProvost | badges/hour |
| 19:04.32 | PProvost | I've got almost all 5-mans down to < 15 min. Some under 10. Love it. |
| 19:04.47 | KriLL3 | I'm guessing CoS is one of the longer? |
| 19:04.56 | KriLL3 | VH also quite long I guess, since there is a lot of waiting |
| 19:05.04 | KriLL3 | can't really dictate the pace of VH |
| 19:05.12 | PProvost | It is hard to cross a certain threshold in some of them |
| 19:05.17 | PProvost | Because of the even mechanics |
| 19:05.38 | Repo | 10lockdots: 03Xocide 07master * b05d3fd / (5 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial Commit |
| 19:06.16 | Yssaril | ~serverstatus |
| 19:06.35 | Yssaril | bah what was the command for that again? |
| 19:06.50 | Gnarfoz | ~chill out and try again in 30 minutes |
| 19:06.51 | purl | ACTION grabs out and try again in 30 minutes and rams a chillpill down out and try again in 30 minutes's throat with a toilet plunger |
| 19:07.08 | Gnarfoz | interesting. |
| 19:07.17 | pompy | ~wowalert |
| 19:07.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:07.21 | Gnarfoz | also lockdots sounds like something that doesn't need to be on wwowace ;o |
| 19:07.58 | Yssaril | @describe lockdots |
| 19:07.59 | Repo | Yssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lockdots/. LockDots. Warlock DoTs Tracker |
| 19:08.02 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 19:08.05 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 11h 8m 19s ago, saying: 'so what you're saying is, you're inefficient and when you try something efficient it's "easy"'. |
| 19:11.42 | KriLL3 | why do I get like 10 updates a day now in CC? used to be 1-3 |
| 19:11.49 | KriLL3 | libraries being updated? |
| 19:12.39 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r139 / (6 files in 3 directories): Change query message, you can stop emailing me now. |
| 19:13.11 | Axodious | alpha? |
| 19:13.16 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 19:13.27 | KriLL3 | since that works best, ironically |
| 19:14.01 | Axodious | i know boss mods are being updated a lot for plague wing |
| 19:14.23 | KriLL3 | most of them aren't boss mods |
| 19:14.30 | Axodious | idk then |
| 19:15.00 | KriLL3 | perhaps people are coding updates now again after the holidays? |
| 19:20.44 | yoshimo | very likely |
| 19:20.48 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r140-release * r140 : Created tag r140-release. |
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| 19:22.22 | KriLL3 | level 66 pala just ran past me on a ground mount in zengarmarsh... |
| 19:22.46 | KriLL3 | guess he didn't have 300g at 60 |
| 19:23.08 | yoshimo | either that, or the bot doesnt support flying mounts ;) |
| 19:23.14 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 19:23.38 | asmodai | I didn't have 300G when I entered Outlands. :( |
| 19:23.57 | KriLL3 | I did, but you couldn't fly at 60 when I entered outlands |
| 19:24.01 | nevcairiel | I did, but my char was ages old already then |
| 19:24.08 | yoshimo | back in classic, i didnt buy my mount until 4 levels after it was available, needed to find a epic to sell |
| 19:24.13 | KriLL3 | and I got flightform + riding skill for free at 68 anyway |
| 19:24.27 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: pong |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: forums seem broken, and page is generally slow, too |
| 19:24.40 | asmodai | Kaelten: ping ping ping |
| 19:24.43 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: in vanilla I didn't get a mount for my druid before level 50 or something like that, and they were available at 40 |
| 19:24.49 | Kaelten | page? |
| 19:25.04 | nevcairiel | wowace.com page :P |
| 19:25.06 | yoshimo | very expensive back then KriLL3 , now its easy to have 200k+ :) |
| 19:25.09 | nevcairiel | anyway forums are completly gone now :P |
| 19:25.12 | Kaelten | forums are broken because the db server it runs off of is overloaded |
| 19:25.20 | Kaelten | I'm working on it to bring them back |
| 19:25.32 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: yeah and grinding as a druid in vanilla wasn't the fastest thing in the world |
| 19:25.38 | yoshimo | how can that happen kaelten? i dont think we have something like patchday :P |
| 19:25.47 | nevcairiel | maybe some other weird game |
| 19:25.52 | KriLL3 | basically involved moonfire wrath and starfire spam, then drinking before the next mob |
| 19:26.14 | Kaelten | yoshimo: too much on one server |
| 19:26.56 | NivFreak | I leveled my priest as holy in TBC, and my warrior as prot, but I did dps specs in classic ;) |
| 19:27.13 | nevcairiel | I leveld my druid as heal in both classic and tbc |
| 19:27.17 | nevcairiel | but i never leveld alone |
| 19:27.27 | nevcairiel | feral in wotlk then |
| 19:27.34 | NivFreak | I did prot again in wrath |
| 19:27.39 | NivFreak | but shadow for my priest |
| 19:27.45 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I leveled alone, as resto/balance in vanilla, feral in TBC |
| 19:27.51 | KriLL3 | and feral in LK |
| 19:27.56 | chiper | I have vague memories of shadow priests being pretty badass in vanilla |
| 19:27.57 | nevcairiel | i leveled feral in TBC beta |
| 19:28.01 | nevcairiel | was quite fun with mangle |
| 19:28.02 | NivFreak | wasn't it terrible to solo as boomkin in classic?" |
| 19:28.10 | KriLL3 | no boomkin in classic |
| 19:28.14 | pentium166 | if moonkin was even in game while you did it |
| 19:28.15 | NivFreak | chiper: only post 2.0 |
| 19:28.32 | yoshimo | does anyone know what happened when orbaz bloodbane yells in icecrown? |
| 19:28.36 | nevcairiel | classic hat boomkins only since the AQ era, and by then people mostly hit level cap already :d |
| 19:28.40 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I swear oomkin jokes were pre tbc, but I never knew one |
| 19:28.40 | KriLL3 | I started playing wow at closed beta =P |
| 19:28.46 | nevcairiel | s/hat/had/ |
| 19:28.50 | chiper | niv: you sure about that? I remember running a scholo with one who was just slaughtering everything. 'course, he was in naxx 40 gear... |
| 19:29.03 | NivFreak | chiper: 2.0 was pre tbc |
| 19:29.07 | NivFreak | by a few months iirc |
| 19:29.14 | NivFreak | naxx was like august? |
| 19:29.15 | nevcairiel | boomkins came with AQ already |
| 19:29.18 | NivFreak | and i think 2.0 was october? |
| 19:29.19 | nevcairiel | 2.0 got us trees |
| 19:29.19 | KriLL3 | feral did slightly less dmg than hitting stuff with your staff in caster btw |
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| 19:30.02 | KriLL3 | well boomkin came some time after we were all 60 |
| 19:30.13 | nevcairiel | AQ, whatever patch that was |
| 19:30.20 | chiper | druids were a joke in vanilla |
| 19:30.24 | chiper | but then again, so were paladins |
| 19:30.26 | NivFreak | 1.9 was AQ I think? |
| 19:30.30 | KriLL3 | "Patch 1.8 (2005-10-10): Significant talent changes. Added Moonkin Form. " |
| 19:30.48 | yoshimo | now i think druids are evil if you have them in pvp ;) |
| 19:30.58 | chiper | wow, really? I never remembered seeing them until 2.0 |
| 19:31.09 | nevcairiel | they didnt get adapted much |
| 19:31.09 | yoshimo | chiper, good that the horde only got paladins in bc not vanilla :) |
| 19:31.22 | pentium166 | I played moonkin for like, 3 days while i was grinding to rank 10 |
| 19:31.32 | KriLL3 | was released in Nov 2004 in the US, Feb 2005 in the EU |
| 19:31.34 | Yssaril | chiper: just because they existed doesnt mean they wherent told heal or gtfo |
| 19:31.38 | nevcairiel | and resto druids were not that bad in vanilla, just every other type of druid was .. bad for raids |
| 19:31.41 | chiper | heh |
| 19:32.00 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well resto druids had only one good healing spell |
| 19:32.02 | KriLL3 | healing touch |
| 19:32.07 | KriLL3 | and it was a long cast |
| 19:32.11 | pentium166 | rank 3/4 |
| 19:32.14 | nevcairiel | but multiple ranks of that! |
| 19:32.17 | nevcairiel | i used rank 4 much |
| 19:32.18 | KriLL3 | all I did in raids was cast HT and jump if the target wasn't hurt |
| 19:32.29 | KriLL3 | fun times... |
| 19:32.33 | KriLL3 | oh and innervate |
| 19:32.43 | nevcairiel | back then most healers didnt do anything else |
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| 19:32.52 | nevcairiel | just cast your long heal |
| 19:33.23 | nevcairiel | but i still miss it |
| 19:33.24 | nevcairiel | was fun times |
| 19:33.58 | NivFreak | the days of cancelcasting are gone |
| 19:34.15 | NivFreak | I don't think they'll ever return |
| 19:34.36 | chiper | eh, I cancel healing way occasionally |
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| 19:34.48 | NivFreak | why bother? :P |
| 19:35.00 | chiper | *shrug* |
| 19:35.11 | chiper | makes it slightly more interesting |
| 19:35.14 | pentium166 | practice for cataclysm |
| 19:35.32 | asmodai | Man, they keep changing little things in the game. Azuremyst's Inn had a typical bulletin board. It got replaced by one even more typically Draenei looking |
| 19:35.34 | pentium166 | if they do actually make saving mana important |
| 19:35.49 | NivFreak | pentium166: they won't |
| 19:36.01 | asmodai | And I hope they will make the teleport spell to Moonglade like the one that arch druid Lilliandra in Argent Vanguard uses. :) |
| 19:36.21 | NivFreak | pentium166: how many times have they failed to make mana matter? |
| 19:36.23 | pentium166 | a portal for other people? |
| 19:36.28 | NivFreak | it's almost like they don't understand thier own scaling |
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| 19:46.02 | winkiller | whoa, whoa, whoa |
| 19:46.15 | winkiller | I replaced Friz Quadrata with Myriad Pro 2 years ago |
| 19:46.21 | winkiller | now I can'tt play without my font >< |
| 19:46.28 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 19:46.59 | winkiller | everything looks so weird suddenly :) |
| 19:47.06 | winkiller | and nothing fits the bars in the UI |
| 19:47.16 | KriLL3 | well change back again then |
| 19:47.47 | winkiller | well, now I did |
| 19:48.07 | winkiller | but if you by accident put \Fonts into \Interface\Fonts |
| 19:48.17 | winkiller | and try to play with sharedmedia.. meh |
| 19:48.35 | KriLL3 | where should fonts go now? |
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| 19:49.51 | arkanes_ | healers don't want mana to matter |
| 19:49.53 | arkanes_ | people say they do |
| 19:50.04 | winkiller | well, WoW\Fonts |
| 19:50.16 | winkiller | and name your font FRIZQT__.ttf |
| 19:50.28 | arkanes_ | but the fact is that unless it's forced by the game, like it was in vanilla, healers will gear for sustainability at the expense of anything else until it doesn't matter |
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| 19:50.58 | arkanes_ | even in vanilla, healers reached a point where mana wasn't a limiting factor |
| 19:51.11 | steev | sigh |
| 19:51.23 | steev | okay, is SKURRI NOT the damage font? |
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| 19:53.31 | KriLL3 | what is the reason for making people re-cast their baseline buffs all the time anyway? |
| 19:53.52 | nevcairiel | once an hour isnt really "all the time" |
| 19:54.07 | KriLL3 | thorns is 10mins unless you want to waste a glyph, motw is 30mins |
| 19:54.18 | nevcairiel | you can get motw to once an hour |
| 19:54.23 | nevcairiel | and thorns is just a very minor buff |
| 19:54.35 | arkanes_ | because some things in the game need to be interactive |
| 19:54.40 | arkanes_ | the argument extends to everything |
| 19:55.11 | KriLL3 | just don't see the reasoning behind it, no druid doesn't buff themselves, classes with more than one buff that fills the same slot like paladins it makes sense to make em buff I guess |
| 19:55.37 | KriLL3 | it's a bit like when warlocks and hunters had to res their pets after dying |
| 19:56.48 | arkanes_ | interestingly, that was actually a PVP related nerf/buff |
| 19:56.54 | yoshimo | whats the size of putricides bottles? |
| 19:57.10 | arkanes_ | you cant make summoning an instance cast, or killing a pet in pvp has no downside |
| 19:57.35 | arkanes_ | but spending 10 extra seconds to cast every time you die is a severe penalty in BGs |
| 19:58.14 | KriLL3 | well druids need a couple of seconds after each death to buff up again |
| 19:58.22 | arkanes_ | 2 gcds |
| 19:58.28 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:58.31 | arkanes_ | + shifting, if you want to count that |
| 19:58.45 | arkanes_ | thats substantially less than the 10 second cast time on summon |
| 19:59.00 | KriLL3 | true, but it's still annoying |
| 19:59.12 | arkanes_ | plus the penalty you take for not buffing is substantially less than a hunter or lock takes for not having a pet |
| 19:59.27 | arkanes_ | so its really not the same thing at all |
| 19:59.29 | KriLL3 | not sure about that |
| 19:59.35 | arkanes_ | ? |
| 19:59.43 | KriLL3 | motw is a very nice buff |
| 19:59.50 | arkanes_ | it's not 30% of your damage |
| 20:00.04 | arkanes_ | or the entirety of your ability to solo mobs |
| 20:00.18 | arkanes_ | they're nowhere near the same level of impact |
| 20:01.06 | arkanes_ | in bgs and WG I sadface as a paladin because it takes longer to buff myself than the preparation aura lasts |
| 20:01.16 | arkanes_ | but thats just part of the nature of the class |
| 20:01.33 | KriLL3 | wha? |
| 20:01.46 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r68 DungeonMate.lua: - This is a sample log file |
| 20:01.47 | KriLL3 | don't you have 2 buffs and an aura? |
| 20:02.01 | arkanes_ | aura, blessing, seal, rf |
| 20:02.24 | arkanes_ | plus more if I want to buff anyone else of course |
| 20:02.40 | KriLL3 | what's rf? |
| 20:02.45 | arkanes_ | righteous fury |
| 20:02.59 | arkanes_ | paladins defensive stance, essentially |
| 20:03.13 | KriLL3 | sounds like blizz should merge some of those |
| 20:03.31 | arkanes_ | its not a big deal |
| 20:03.50 | KriLL3 | no, but it would be better design to merge em into 1/2 things |
| 20:03.58 | arkanes_ | managing them and the mana to cast them is part of the price for the flexibility of doing them individually |
| 20:03.59 | arkanes_ | why? |
| 20:04.14 | arkanes_ | "better design" is poorly defined |
| 20:04.43 | KriLL3 | less complicated, more user friendly if you prefer |
| 20:05.12 | KriLL3 | is there even a reason to make em separate buffs? |
| 20:05.17 | arkanes_ | yes |
| 20:05.22 | KriLL3 | which is? |
| 20:05.28 | arkanes_ | they do different things, and each category has different options |
| 20:05.49 | KriLL3 | can't you merge all in each different category? |
| 20:05.50 | steev | hm, okay, so, ARIALN is both combat text and chat? |
| 20:05.53 | arkanes_ | no |
| 20:05.57 | KriLL3 | why not? |
| 20:06.05 | arkanes_ | because they address different things |
| 20:06.11 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 20:06.24 | arkanes_ | I don't pair the same seal with the same blessing |
| 20:06.30 | arkanes_ | or the same aura with anything else |
| 20:06.49 | KriLL3 | so you can't boil it down to healing/tanking/dps? |
| 20:06.54 | arkanes_ | because seals address one facet of gameplay, and blessins address different ones |
| 20:06.54 | arkanes_ | no |
| 20:07.06 | arkanes_ | or rather, you could, but then it would be a different system |
| 20:07.15 | arkanes_ | with less flexibilty and different mechanics than the current one |
| 20:07.22 | KriLL3 | sure it would, but I don't see why that would be inferior to the current |
| 20:07.38 | arkanes_ | what if we reduced druid forms to healing/dps/tanking |
| 20:07.44 | KriLL3 | they are |
| 20:07.45 | arkanes_ | and you got each one from the tree it was in |
| 20:07.54 | KriLL3 | that's more or less true |
| 20:07.58 | arkanes_ | except not |
| 20:08.05 | arkanes_ | each tree has exactly 1 form |
| 20:08.09 | arkanes_ | and no druid gets any others |
| 20:08.30 | KriLL3 | I'd actually prefer if non ferals couldn't use feral forms, since we can't use oomkin and tree form |
| 20:08.31 | arkanes_ | that would obviously be simpler and more user friendly than the current system |
| 20:08.49 | arkanes_ | but it certainly loses much of the feel and interest and flexibility of the forms |
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| 20:10.52 | arkanes_ | shadow priest is probably a better candidate for your idea |
| 20:10.54 | KriLL3 | I don't see the connection |
| 20:11.06 | arkanes_ | could certainly merge, say, vampiric embrace and shadowform |
| 20:11.17 | arkanes_ | although the shadowform tooltip is quite long enough already, thanks |
| 20:11.26 | arkanes_ | and of course the whole dispel mechanic in PVP plays a part |
| 20:11.49 | KriLL3 | is the buff dispelled random or specific? never figured that out |
| 20:12.01 | arkanes_ | random |
| 20:12.06 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 20:12.25 | arkanes_ | thats why people like to add trash buffs that are less important, to reduce the odds of something important getting purged |
| 20:12.38 | arkanes_ | and debuffs of course |
| 20:13.48 | orionshock | wtf, another oddity. EG is showing +2% threat and 10 parry as always bad enchant to gloves? |
| 20:14.15 | KriLL3 | orionshock: what class? |
| 20:14.23 | orionshock | warrior |
| 20:14.31 | KriLL3 | yes clearly useless for warriors... |
| 20:15.00 | orionshock | tank is blue not epic |
| 20:15.47 | arkanes_ | heck almost anything is a reasonable tank glove enchant |
| 20:15.51 | arkanes_ | none of them are amazing |
| 20:15.59 | arkanes_ | aside from, say, spellpower or spell pen |
| 20:16.56 | orionshock | spell pen is the least of bad in that choice arkanes_ |
| 20:17.02 | KriLL3 | why are all water walking buffs unreliable? fall right through the surface a lot |
| 20:17.15 | arkanes_ | stop looking at your feet |
| 20:17.20 | KriLL3 | I'm not |
| 20:17.38 | arkanes_ | well you're looking down in some way |
| 20:17.43 | orionshock | KriLL3, the reason you fall though is because your "flying" down |
| 20:17.50 | KriLL3 | does that make you go through it? urgh |
| 20:17.51 | arkanes_ | I'm not sure what the exactly angle is that triggers dive |
| 20:18.29 | arkanes_ | its entirely reliable, though |
| 20:18.40 | KriLL3 | as long as you don't ever look down... |
| 20:18.45 | KriLL3 | is this a cartoon? =P |
| 20:18.51 | Gnarfoz | haste: is the git version of oGlow feature complete? rather, what are your plans for it, bloat it up? (I read stuff about "pipes" o_O sounds quite a bit more complicated than "color my items by quality") |
| 20:19.03 | arkanes_ | well, I know my normal comfortable camera angle doesn't trigger it |
| 20:19.13 | arkanes_ | so you must look at a more downward angle than I do |
| 20:19.23 | KriLL3 | I change all the time |
| 20:19.42 | KriLL3 | but I'm generally just above horizontal |
| 20:22.10 | KriLL3 | ah, I look down when I fish to see the pools better... |
| 20:22.16 | KriLL3 | and fall through |
| 20:26.07 | arkanes_ | turn off smart camera and steer with yuor keys, then |
| 20:27.00 | winkiller | holy crap. 25man and down to 1 fps |
| 20:27.12 | winkiller | still #1 on dps after Gormok |
| 20:27.16 | winkiller | but hardly fun :( |
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| 20:27.43 | steev | Gnarfoz: it will eventually become a series of tubes |
| 20:28.22 | haste | Gnarfoz: pipes existed before, they were just hardcoded all of them |
| 20:28.30 | haste | Gnarfoz: on the git version you can disable them |
| 20:29.44 | haste | Gnarfoz: it also allows several types of displays now. ie. text/border/vertex/texture etc |
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| 20:32.47 | Yivry | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.01 | Yivry | wtf |
| 20:33.48 | Gnarfoz | Yivry: time for a password change |
| 20:33.59 | Yivry | :p |
| 20:34.01 | Gnarfoz | and you should keep your keyboard out of range of your cat |
| 20:34.01 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:34.31 | KriLL3 | for some weird reason that message made by char scroll sideways |
| 20:34.42 | KriLL3 | *chat |
| 20:37.25 | orionshock | lol |
| 20:37.45 | Yivry | hmm what is <key> supposed to be? |
| 20:38.50 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r108 / (2 files in 2 directories): HeadCount: |
| 20:38.51 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.51 | Repo | - Updated with latest Dewdrop Lib to fix right-click minimap button menu (thanks Yoshimo!) |
| 20:38.52 | Repo | - Fixed typo in locale/ru_RU.lua on Freya trigger |
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| 20:40.09 | Dessa | Yivry: do not use /ns setpass use /ns set passwort <new password> |
| 20:40.20 | Dessa | s/wort/word |
| 20:40.21 | Yivry | i notices dessa, thanks |
| 20:40.50 | KriLL3 | ... how can a UD/DK drown anyway? |
| 20:40.50 | asmodai | wtf, Recount even has Gearscore and gearscore/dps stats |
| 20:41.12 | Axodious | no |
| 20:41.16 | Axodious | it's a part of GS |
| 20:41.17 | nevcairiel | recount is a bloat hole as well :p |
| 20:41.24 | Yivry | KriLL3 by being underwater for over 10 min :P |
| 20:41.32 | Axodious | GS mods rrecount to add it |
| 20:41.44 | KriLL3 | Yivry: yes but how? |
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| 20:41.58 | Axodious | if oyu use GS lite it doesn't add the recount BS |
| 20:42.03 | Yivry | by goin underwater |
| 20:42.05 | Yivry | ;) |
| 20:42.06 | KriLL3 | Axodious: same |
| 20:42.33 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I've not found anything better though |
| 20:42.49 | nevcairiel | look at combatlog stats after the fights |
| 20:42.55 | nevcairiel | WoL live uploader ftw |
| 20:43.05 | KriLL3 | I don't get it, but ok |
| 20:44.23 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: can't, even those 48k chunks would make me lag... yay 192kbit upstream :< |
| 20:45.00 | nevcairiel | who cares about a 2-3s lag after a fight? :p |
| 20:45.14 | Gnarfoz | after? during |
| 20:45.23 | Gnarfoz | it's not like the client knows I'm not in combat anymore |
| 20:46.04 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 20:46.06 | nevcairiel | actually |
| 20:47.21 | Gnarfoz | how would it? :< |
| 20:47.38 | asmodai | Axodious: ahh ok |
| 20:47.44 | nevcairiel | its pretty obvious from combatlog if there is a fight going on or not |
| 20:48.01 | KriLL3 | doesn't that appear in the combat log? |
| 20:48.10 | KriLL3 | going in/out of combat |
| 20:48.12 | Gnarfoz | no, it doesn't |
| 20:48.13 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:48.19 | Gnarfoz | just the amount of flushing to disk going on is visible |
| 20:48.48 | nevcairiel | like the website can split into fights, the client can as well just detect changes in your combat status |
| 20:48.56 | nevcairiel | or at least dont upload during high-traffic times |
| 20:48.59 | nevcairiel | which means combat |
| 20:50.06 | yoshimo | how can wol send liveupdates? i though combatlog is written to disk only if you close wow |
| 20:50.18 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: it's flushed in 48k blocks |
| 20:50.50 | Gnarfoz | right, so it's not only gonna use my upload but also my cpu to analyze the log?! :O |
| 20:50.51 | nevcairiel | which isnt much data if you compress it before transfer |
| 20:51.04 | nevcairiel | which is like nothing :p |
| 20:51.20 | Megalon | http://img9.abload.de/img/6180_abce_800dq7w.gif |
| 20:57.16 | arkanes_ | I've had trouble with the live updater and flushes before |
| 20:57.53 | arkanes_ | and there's a particular idiosyncricy with OS X and it's file tracking feature, if you delete the logfile from the finder (== move it to trash) WoW happily keeps writing to it in the trash |
| 21:01.16 | orionshock | shuffles around Kaelten's magazines in his office's lobby table. "... nope nothing good to read, maybe he keeps the good stuff hidden somewhere in here..." |
| 21:01.46 | koaschten | thats awesome, like a direct katheter to the bathroom arkanes_ ;) |
| 21:02.58 | nevcairiel | is it equially uncomfortable? |
| 21:03.05 | nevcairiel | -i |
| 21:03.30 | arkanes_ | it took me forever to figure out why it wasn't working :( |
| 21:03.51 | arkanes_ | turning combat logging off and on ingame doesn't create a new file handle, either |
| 21:03.59 | arkanes_ | which I thought was odd |
| 21:07.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7017 Coliseum (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:07.03 | Repo | Coliseum/Beasts: Change the wipe check to use the wipe yell+zone change, to prevent timers wiping for dead people in phase 2. Experimental + needs localized. |
| 21:09.01 | aestil | speaking of recount being bloated, what is the current envouge damage meter? |
| 21:09.12 | *** join/#wowace Adremma (n=adremma@66.43.223.169) |
| 21:09.13 | Axodious | ^ |
| 21:10.05 | KriLL3 | weird, I'm plate and I got some soulbound leather items in my bags, autovendor isn't selling em even though I got the option turned on |
| 21:15.26 | *** join/#wowace rmk (n=user@delusion.fourty.net) |
| 21:22.25 | Axodious | ... there's someone in trade chat on my server arguing that 360 degrees is half a circle |
| 21:22.57 | *** join/#wowace Shadowed (n=Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com) |
| 21:23.08 | Axodious | pounces Shadowed |
| 21:23.40 | KriLL3 | so 720 is a full circle then? |
| 21:23.46 | Axodious | apparently |
| 21:23.48 | Shadowed | afternoon |
| 21:24.30 | genetik- | "there's someone in trade chat on my server arguing" |
| 21:24.32 | genetik- | imagine that |
| 21:24.51 | Axodious | Shadowed i had another idea for EG if it's not already implemented, chatframe warning if a player has a score of 2 or less in your party |
| 21:25.43 | Shadowed | yea it's already a ticket |
| 21:26.59 | Axodious | trying to get guildies to adopt EG, death to gear score! |
| 21:27.21 | nevcairiel | I stopped caring about the addons my guildies use like 2 years ago |
| 21:27.25 | nevcairiel | was good for my mental health |
| 21:28.22 | Axodious | it's not that i care what they're using, i just want gear score to die |
| 21:28.37 | *** join/#wowace rmk (n=user@delusion.fourty.net) |
| 21:28.53 | Shadowed | I am pretty sure EG supporters are split into two camps, those who like EG and those who hate GS |
| 21:29.06 | Axodious | well im in the 3rd camp |
| 21:29.08 | Shadowed | it's probably 30% like, 70% hate GS |
| 21:29.09 | Axodious | both |
| 21:29.09 | Axodious | :D |
| 21:29.24 | KriLL3 | main reason I prefer GS is that I see people's scores in tooltip, makes it easier to use than opening a dedicated window |
| 21:29.27 | Axodious | EG has so much more potential |
| 21:29.49 | Axodious | Shadowed said he's probably going to add some form of tooltip display at some point |
| 21:29.57 | Shadowed | It won't display average item level |
| 21:30.01 | Shadowed | it's very specifically not going to |
| 21:30.06 | Axodious | thank god |
| 21:30.27 | KriLL3 | doesn't EG got some other score that mixes gear + talents + etc? |
| 21:30.41 | KriLL3 | enchants, gems etc |
| 21:31.13 | Shadowed | no |
| 21:31.18 | Axodious | where do i add tickets for this? i never can navigate wowi |
| 21:31.24 | Shadowed | the only "score" is item level average |
| 21:31.28 | Shadowed | @project elitistgroup |
| 21:31.30 | Repo | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/elitistgroup/. Elitist Group. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Maintainer). Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 12/50 |
| 21:31.36 | Axodious | oh it's ace |
| 21:31.53 | KriLL3 | not sure how you'd put detailed info into a tooltip |
| 21:32.05 | Axodious | i was thinking just pointing out bad stuff |
| 21:32.13 | Axodious | and maybe a way to select a specific achievement |
| 21:32.48 | Axodious | like, missing x gems, x enchants, has 1 light in the darkness |
| 21:32.52 | Torhal | Shadowed: Give in to the bloat! It is your destiny. |
| 21:32.58 | KriLL3 | gs is far from perfect, but it's much quicker than looking up each character in a dedicated window, takes much longer, too long most of the time to bother doing it |
| 21:33.15 | Shadowed | uh |
| 21:33.19 | Shadowed | they are two entirely different purposes |
| 21:33.32 | Shadowed | GS is if you don't care and want to see their item level, even thought it can be cheated and tells you nothing |
| 21:33.44 | Shadowed | EG is if you want to know what they using and if they are idiots (based on item choices) |
| 21:34.28 | KriLL3 | EG won't know if a melee hunter is an idiot? =P |
| 21:35.24 | KriLL3 | (my brother's first char was a hunter, he got to 40 without using a pet or doing more ranged that he had time to do before they ran up to him, was in melee most of the time) |
| 21:39.13 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.249-beta * r338 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 21:39.15 | Repo | - Tagged as beta. |
| 21:39.23 | olafski | heh I love EG |
| 21:39.37 | olafski | just entered a dungeon with 2 people from al'akir, half their gear unenchanted |
| 21:39.47 | olafski | so I said "does al'akir have no enchanters?" |
| 21:39.50 | olafski | "lol i'm enchanter y?" |
| 21:40.08 | KriLL3 | olafski: was said gear bad? |
| 21:40.11 | olafski | tier 9 |
| 21:40.15 | olafski | velen's somethingsomething |
| 21:40.27 | KriLL3 | hmm, should be enchanted |
| 21:40.31 | olafski | yeah |
| 21:40.32 | KriLL3 | I don't enchant gear I know I'll replace really soon |
| 21:40.53 | olafski | same.. the only upgrades I can reasonably get now are from frost emblems though :) |
| 21:41.00 | KriLL3 | same |
| 21:41.19 | olafski | seeing as I don't raid.. frost emblems only :) |
| 21:41.21 | KriLL3 | or inside ICC/other raids |
| 21:41.27 | KriLL3 | same |
| 21:41.39 | olafski | I pugged some icc rep run to friendly though |
| 21:41.52 | olafski | but the ring was barely an upgrade from my ilvl 219 tank ring from ulduar10 |
| 21:41.59 | KriLL3 | how? can't get into ICC in a pug without achivement |
| 21:42.12 | Ackis | hey olafski buy my account |
| 21:42.41 | KriLL3 | scratch that, you can't get into a pug without achi, ever. |
| 21:42.45 | NivFreak | olafski: the rep rings are rather meh for tanking, too many good EH rings around |
| 21:43.00 | KriLL3 | EH? |
| 21:43.05 | NivFreak | effective health |
| 21:43.16 | KriLL3 | right... |
| 21:43.35 | NivFreak | I have my exalted ring, stil doesn't stack up to the 245 ony or EoT ring |
| 21:43.41 | olafski | why would I want to buy an account ackis ;) |
| 21:43.49 | mascondante | Shadowed you around? |
| 21:43.56 | olafski | I don't calculate EH anyway ,) |
| 21:43.59 | Shadowed | depends if it's quick |
| 21:44.08 | KriLL3 | I got the triump ring, and conquest one |
| 21:44.16 | Shadowed | Trying to figure out why Thunderbird3 is being a bitch |
| 21:44.16 | durcyn | your account is terrible, Ackis |
| 21:44.26 | Ackis | durcyn: I have a spectral tiger and spectral kitten! |
| 21:44.28 | KriLL3 | what's the difference between EH and stamina? |
| 21:44.39 | mascondante | It is. Seems QA doesn't play well with auctioneer. I wanted the cancel auction and Auctioneer doesn't have it as of yet. |
| 21:44.53 | Shadowed | Auctioneers fault |
| 21:44.54 | durcyn | terrible. |
| 21:44.57 | Shadowed | don't use it and QA |
| 21:45.05 | Shadowed | or disable whatever the scan history module in auctioneer is |
| 21:45.34 | mascondante | ah ty. What's wrong with your tbird? |
| 21:46.34 | Shadowed | Doesn't seem to want to proxy |
| 21:48.22 | Shadowed | In fact, it doesn't seem to want to do anything |
| 21:48.27 | Shadowed | clicking check mail results in no output :| |
| 21:49.47 | olafski | krill3: if EH == stamina, why not just call it that :) |
| 21:49.49 | mascondante | irc.mozilla.org:6667 #thunderbird |
| 21:49.51 | olafski | I think other factors are involved |
| 21:49.57 | KriLL3 | olafski: like what? |
| 21:50.04 | olafski | armor |
| 21:50.25 | olafski | I think the theorycrafters involve other things like avoidance too.. but that gets kinda fuzzy |
| 21:50.26 | KriLL3 | wha? |
| 21:50.50 | mascondante | Shadowed: I could try to help you but the above stated link would probably be more useful. |
| 21:50.55 | steev | eesh |
| 21:51.02 | olafski | armor increases your effective health because you can take more (unmitigated) damage before you die |
| 21:51.07 | Shadowed | Eh, I'm pretty sure it's something obvious |
| 21:51.10 | KriLL3 | it's some kind of measure on how many times you can get hit by an attack dealing certain dmg? |
| 21:51.22 | olafski | yeah that's what I thought :P |
| 21:51.26 | steev | wish they could make up their mind in the UHDK thread about which cloak enchant is better, every day it switches back and forth between agi/haste |
| 21:51.26 | KriLL3 | olafski: except spell dmg |
| 21:51.44 | olafski | aye |
| 21:51.49 | pentium166 | then pick one and stick with it because it probably doesn't make much of a difference either way :p |
| 21:51.50 | asmodai | jesus |
| 21:51.51 | durcyn | steev: chromatic resist enchant, obviously |
| 21:51.51 | mascondante | Shadowed: It usually is :-p |
| 21:52.04 | asmodai | Anyone else on the European realms suffering from a lot of lag, especially looting |
| 21:52.06 | olafski | most bosses do a lot of physical damage though I thought |
| 21:52.09 | Shadowed | But given it worked before till I upgraded to 3 |
| 21:52.12 | Shadowed | I assume it's something stupid |
| 21:52.13 | olafski | haven't raided for a while :P |
| 21:52.33 | KriLL3 | asmodai: yes |
| 21:52.43 | KriLL3 | but then again my server has a queue most of the day |
| 21:52.47 | asmodai | Shadowed: btw, just did Violet Hold, working great at the end of the instance, asking to rate and all that |
| 21:52.59 | asmodai | KriLL3: it's absurd this bad. And I am just strolling around Storm Peaks |
| 21:53.10 | olafski | no trouble here at all |
| 21:53.19 | KriLL3 | asmodai: I don't like that EG bitches if you don't add a comment |
| 21:53.49 | steev | rofl! |
| 21:54.10 | asmodai | Oh it did? didn't notice |
| 21:54.14 | asmodai | wasn't anything worth commenting on |
| 21:54.20 | asmodai | all 4 others were doing great |
| 21:54.23 | Shadowed | One message if you don't comment isn't really bitching |
| 21:54.29 | olafski | it says something about "doing no comment for 4 players because you didn't enter anything" |
| 21:54.34 | Shadowed | which only shows if you auto popup the ratng |
| 21:54.37 | Shadowed | rating* |
| 21:54.43 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/failmacro.png |
| 21:54.56 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: still, I know I didn't comment on them, no reason to tell me that |
| 21:55.01 | asmodai | Mmm, this only confirms that looting is handled by some dedicated servers/database thinghy |
| 21:55.15 | steev | bleh, hasn't finished |
| 21:55.20 | KriLL3 | samae as cars that bong with the door open, yes I know the door is open, I just opened it |
| 21:55.30 | asmodai | heh |
| 21:55.42 | asmodai | "Hello, did you know the door is open?" |
| 21:56.32 | asmodai | oh ffs, let me loot the corpse already |
| 21:56.52 | KriLL3 | fly/run away a bit to reset it and try again |
| 21:58.05 | Shadowed | ah |
| 21:58.14 | Shadowed | Apparently TB can't upgrade email accounts or something stupid |
| 21:58.25 | Shadowed | had to readd everthing :| |
| 21:58.46 | pentium166 | I went from 2 to 3 on two computers with no problems |
| 21:58.52 | Shadowed | on OSX? |
| 21:58.53 | asmodai | people are now even saying that they're frozen in instances |
| 21:58.56 | pentium166 | oh, windows |
| 21:59.07 | asmodai | which would suck since my guild is doing 2 ICC10 runs and near end boss XD |
| 21:59.24 | Shadowed | The new interface is quite nice thought for adding mail accounts |
| 21:59.41 | pentium166 | have someone portal them to someplace besides northrend |
| 21:59.44 | KriLL3 | I just use gmail's web UI and forward all non spam from all my addresses to one gmail inbox, giving em different labels depending on what address they were sent to, can send messages from all of them in gmail also |
| 22:00.08 | KriLL3 | asmodai: what battle group? |
| 22:02.26 | *** join/#wowace pschriner (n=Miranda@xdsl-89-0-149-143.netcologne.de) |
| 22:03.57 | Repo | 10ldb-pitchspeed: 03Allara * r5 LDB_PitchSpeed.toc: - ToC to 3.3 |
| 22:04.14 | Repo | 10ldb-pitchspeed: 03Allara 04r5-release * r6 : Tagging as r5-release |
| 22:05.25 | KriLL3 | what's the point of toc bumping anyway? |
| 22:05.41 | asmodai | KriLL3: Cyclone I think |
| 22:05.42 | KriLL3 | assuring people that your addon works still? |
| 22:05.47 | asmodai | Cool |
| 22:05.49 | asmodai | I'm in Dalaran |
| 22:05.53 | asmodai | See 1 other person. |
| 22:05.56 | KriLL3 | flee! |
| 22:05.58 | asmodai | Nothing else. Not even NPCs |
| 22:06.10 | KriLL3 | I spend as little time there as possible |
| 22:06.11 | CrazyBenny | I'm still on loading screen:( |
| 22:06.16 | asmodai | This is going well, people mentioned some maintenance on trade |
| 22:06.26 | Vangual | i couldn't get past loading bar on cycle 10ish minsa ago, didn't etry |
| 22:06.35 | Vangual | cyclone* |
| 22:06.46 | CrazyBenny | yeah, it all went haywire |
| 22:07.59 | asmodai | fuck fuck fuck |
| 22:08.07 | asmodai | I was like: lets go somewhere safe, Exodar or so |
| 22:08.12 | asmodai | no portals in Dalaran |
| 22:08.39 | KriLL3 | yeah they're kinda like NPCs |
| 22:08.48 | KriLL3 | don't appear if there are no NPCs |
| 22:09.13 | KriLL3 | <3 moonglade teleport |
| 22:09.52 | asmodai | rofl |
| 22:10.02 | asmodai | there's no mobs or npcs elsewhere either |
| 22:10.10 | asmodai | owwwww |
| 22:10.16 | asmodai | ideal moment for stalking time lost proto :) |
| 22:10.47 | KriLL3 | don't you need to see it to kill it? |
| 22:10.52 | Yivry | lol |
| 22:12.24 | asmodai | KriLL3: When it comes back :) |
| 22:12.33 | KriLL3 | ah, no idea where it spawns |
| 22:12.33 | asmodai | I'm betting stuff will be reset |
| 22:12.41 | asmodai | Storm Peaks |
| 22:12.44 | asmodai | west side |
| 22:12.52 | KriLL3 | that's a big area |
| 22:13.17 | *** join/#wowace Venara (n=venara@p4FECAE46.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:14.17 | asmodai | can't even bloody logout XD |
| 22:14.27 | KriLL3 | yeah you usually can't when that happens |
| 22:14.39 | asmodai | What's the best way to end wow then? just task end it? |
| 22:14.41 | KriLL3 | alt+f4 |
| 22:14.48 | asmodai | oh that works? |
| 22:14.56 | KriLL3 | yeah, though that kills any changes you've made to your UI etc |
| 22:15.03 | KriLL3 | same as a crash |
| 22:15.24 | Gnarfoz | ? alt-f4 saves stuff |
| 22:15.25 | Yivry | just wait for a moment to disconnect :P |
| 22:15.40 | asmodai | Yivry: a few minutes should be enough XD |
| 22:15.56 | KriLL3 | I waited like 10mins, nothing happened |
| 22:16.07 | KriLL3 | had to kill it in the task manager |
| 22:17.35 | asmodai | Something must've hit the fan ;) |
| 22:17.40 | asmodai | Fisker! |
| 22:17.43 | asmodai | Don't do that |
| 22:17.48 | KriLL3 | the hamster that powered the server most likely |
| 22:18.06 | KriLL3 | and yes Fisker likes to throw them into fans |
| 22:18.24 | Yivry | nothing like a fan-sliced hamster aight? :P |
| 22:18.27 | *** join/#wowace rmk (n=user@delusion.fourty.net) |
| 22:19.14 | KriLL3 | more tender and regular width slices than a knife can get |
| 22:20.29 | Yivry | depends on the throwing angle |
| 22:20.58 | Axodious | Shadowed, should i be able to see other realms in the main search window in EG? |
| 22:24.04 | Silowyi | what is the price of Curse Premium for a yearly sub? |
| 22:24.29 | Yivry | dunno, I just wrote some addons :P |
| 22:24.34 | Ackis | Silowyi: like 20-30 |
| 22:24.46 | KriLL3 | 20-30 what? |
| 22:24.54 | KriLL3 | lego blocks? |
| 22:24.56 | Silowyi | Ackis: writing a budget, I need the exact amount for a yearly subscription... and since I'm already subscribed, it won't tell me :P |
| 22:24.56 | Ackis | http://www.curse.com/Premium/Signup.aspx |
| 22:24.58 | Yivry | $ probably ofc |
| 22:25.09 | Ackis | Silowyi: $24.95 for 6 months |
| 22:25.17 | Ackis | $4.95 a month |
| 22:25.19 | Gagorian | SunTsu: New warlock ticket ;) |
| 22:25.28 | asmodai | KriLL3: dude, lego is expensive nowadays! |
| 22:25.33 | Silowyi | Ackis: the Yearly cost is discounted |
| 22:25.38 | KriLL3 | Ackis: errm, $5 more for a year |
| 22:25.38 | Ackis | Silowyi: (billed annually @ $29.40) |
| 22:25.44 | Repo | 10broker_control: 03Morgalm * r8 Core.lua: Broker_Control |
| 22:25.45 | Repo | -change +/- icons |
| 22:25.46 | Repo | -added ora3/ora2 tank comms so if you set ora3/blizzard tanks the tanks get sent to ora2 as 1/2 my guild still using ora2 |
| 22:25.51 | Ackis | yeah weird pricing structure |
| 22:25.55 | asmodai | @project factionizer |
| 22:25.56 | Repo | asmodai: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/factionizer/. Factionizer. Game: WoW. Urbin (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 days ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 22:26.01 | *** join/#wowace comer (n=kvirc@71.23.127.58) |
| 22:26.04 | Ackis | 1 year sub ~= 6 month non-sub |
| 22:26.07 | KriLL3 | doubt anyone picks 6 months over a year |
| 22:26.12 | asmodai | mmm, I wonder if that's an open repo |
| 22:26.22 | Silowyi | I guess I can just log out and see the prices |
| 22:26.36 | Ackis | I just gave them to you |
| 22:26.39 | Ackis | asmodai: it's not |
| 22:27.11 | asmodai | Ackis: :( |
| 22:27.16 | asmodai | I am willing to provide patches |
| 22:27.23 | Silowyi | Ackis: Thanks :) |
| 22:27.41 | Ackis | Silowyi: $2.45 / month (billed annually @ $29.40), $3.45 / month (billed quarterly @ $10.35), $4.95 / month (billed monthly), $24.95 (no subscription) for 6 months |
| 22:28.05 | Ackis | asmodai: send urbin a PM :P |
| 22:28.27 | asmodai | *spam* |
| 22:29.03 | Ackis | I feel like banning someone,... don't make me ban YOU! :D |
| 22:29.11 | asmodai | points at Fisker |
| 22:29.15 | asmodai | Happy volunteer there |
| 22:29.18 | Silowyi | I used to use Factionizer |
| 22:29.42 | comer | Im attempting to make an addon with 3 different "states" is there any easy way to toggle between them using ace? |
| 22:29.57 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:30.11 | asmodai | Silowyi: and now? |
| 22:30.24 | Yivry | comer: define "state" and what you want with it? |
| 22:30.42 | Silowyi | asmodai: No factions I care to farm atm. |
| 22:31.34 | asmodai | Anyway, night night :) |
| 22:31.41 | comer | im doing an autoskull addon and I want it to go from off, to just skulls, and all symbols and i want to have to toggle bewteen those 3 using slash commands |
| 22:32.19 | Yivry | just make a global variable addonNameState |
| 22:32.22 | Yivry | or smt :P |
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| 22:33.10 | comer | weve done that, but were haing trouble understanding how the ace slashcommands works and there dosnt seem to be much in the way of documentation to help us |
| 22:33.15 | Myrroddin | good afternoon, good evening, and hello |
| 22:33.52 | Yivry | ace slashcommands... opening my code for that :P |
| 22:34.18 | Gagorian | Typing /script Addon:Function() is out of the question? |
| 22:34.57 | Gagorian | I mean if you just intend to macro it, should work as well.. Although if you intend to release it then something simpler is probably preferred |
| 22:35.21 | *** join/#wowace DMB_ (i=DMB@145.116.18.240) |
| 22:35.31 | DMB_ | damn dc |
| 22:36.01 | comer | yea, weve been debating that. something to the effect of /addon off, single, or multi for toggle purpouses but it seems the minimap icons are way to advanced for us atm |
| 22:36.33 | steev | lulz |
| 22:36.52 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r158 / (6 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 22:36.54 | Repo | MorgDKP2 |
| 22:36.55 | Repo | -removed ZONE_CHANGED event and switched to GetInstanceInfo() to fix DKP/time awarding problems |
| 22:36.56 | steev | aol is laying off 1k and closing eu offices |
| 22:36.57 | Repo | -fix for nil error (ticket 80) |
| 22:36.58 | Repo | -fix for DKP/time events not syncing (only works if dkp changes as events is selected) |
| 22:37.15 | Yivry | ouch @ steev |
| 22:38.04 | Yivry | comer: sorry dont even need dialog, AceConfig is enough |
| 22:38.40 | steev | so, if i wanted to play around with keybindings, i can do that without it syncing to the server if i set synchronizeSettings 0 in the Config.wtf ? |
| 22:38.44 | SunTsu | Gagorian: I'll look into it in about 3,5 hours, can't do it right now |
| 22:38.49 | steev | or do keybindings go to server no matter what? |
| 22:39.14 | orionshock | moves to a different chair in Kaelten's office lobby... |
| 22:39.28 | steev | orionshock: bad wifi signal? |
| 22:39.38 | Yivry | comer: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/getting-started/ scroll to aceconfig |
| 22:40.06 | orionshock | hehe, no just waiting for him. I caused a problem with the web app that's prolly going to take a db admin to fix.. |
| 22:40.12 | comer | Yivry: lol already there |
| 22:40.31 | Yivry | it's not that hard |
| 22:40.38 | Yivry | though explaining via chat might be :P |
| 22:40.51 | steev | orionshock: way to go! |
| 22:40.56 | comer | yea :( i kinda figured |
| 22:41.22 | orionshock | not that it's a big problem or critically bad.. like a bad doorjam on an inside door, just another thing to look at ... |
| 22:42.15 | steev | thats what they all say |
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| 22:44.23 | orionshock | Shadowed, [[ ElitistGroup-v1.1-17-g6f5e5a7\modules\party_summary.lua:147: bad argument #2 to 'SetFormattedText' (number expected, got string) ]] |
| 22:44.41 | orionshock | modules\party_summary.lua:147: in function `UpdateSingle' |
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| 22:50.38 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03Shefki * r65 SmartRes2.lua: Fix syntax errors. |
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| 22:53.37 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03Shefki * r66 SmartRes2.lua: |
| 22:53.39 | Repo | sender is set in OnInitialize so I'm assuming he really wanted the players class. |
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| 22:54.51 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03Shefki * r67 SmartRes2.lua: |
| 22:54.53 | Axodious | http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/11/05/dirtiest_pc.jpg |
| 22:54.53 | Repo | Fix the patterns for replacing the player names in the chat announcements. |
| 22:54.57 | Axodious | (sfw) |
| 22:55.09 | Groktar | i put up 3 of every glyph for 3g |
| 22:55.22 | Groktar | and now the other glyph people are sending angry tells |
| 22:55.27 | Ackis | @project smartres2 |
| 22:55.27 | Groktar | thinks he is a funny guy |
| 22:55.27 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/. SmartRes2. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. myrroddin (Manager/Author). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 5/25 |
| 22:55.33 | Ackis | ~Shefki++ |
| 22:55.34 | Yivry | lol grok |
| 22:55.41 | Axodious | Shadowed you around? got a bug related to blizzard addons with EG |
| 22:55.46 | Groktar | eventually they'll give up and i can repost for 40g! |
| 22:55.50 | Groktar | and be RICH! |
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| 22:56.14 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:56.25 | Axodious | i'd make a ticket but it's kinda weird |
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| 22:57.38 | Myrroddin | Shefki? |
| 22:57.58 | Shefki | Yes? |
| 22:58.17 | ckknight | Myrroddin? |
| 22:58.27 | Ackis | Ackis? |
| 22:58.29 | Ackis | :( |
| 22:58.52 | Myrroddin | LOL i was just working on trying to fix my encodings. for some reason they went ansii instead of utf-8 |
| 22:58.57 | Myrroddin | heya ackis! |
| 22:58.57 | Tuller | so, is there any reason why me pulling libs from wowace as externals would blow up recently? |
| 22:59.02 | Ackis | howdy :) |
| 22:59.10 | Axodious | how do i export the full error in the new bug sack? |
| 22:59.15 | Axodious | only getting partial ... stuff |
| 22:59.24 | Myrroddin | did you notice anything about wrong encodings? |
| 22:59.25 | WobWork | Groktar: won't they just buy you out, and repost? =P |
| 22:59.35 | Groktar | they haven't |
| 22:59.41 | WobWork | well that's kinda stupid |
| 22:59.45 | ckknight | Myrroddin: ascii is a subset of utf-8 |
| 22:59.47 | Groktar | and i'm not getting undercut |
| 22:59.54 | WobWork | although, what is the current 'average' price? |
| 22:59.55 | Groktar | and herbs have been so cheap i'm still making a profit |
| 23:00.13 | Myrroddin | ckknight i know, but tortoise was throwing an error about wrong encodings |
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| 23:00.43 | Myrroddin | sorry, i meant ansi |
| 23:00.47 | Myrroddin | not ascii |
| 23:01.59 | Myrroddin | hang on, want to see what ackis and shefki changed... brb |
| 23:02.04 | Myrroddin | :) |
| 23:02.36 | Ackis | Myrroddin: I didn't touch anything! |
| 23:02.42 | Ackis | it's all Shefki's fault |
| 23:02.57 | Myrroddin | ohhhh sure! :P |
| 23:03.00 | Shefki | Hey I'm just making it so it doesn't error on just loading. |
| 23:03.19 | Myrroddin | yeah, i forgot a [ on line 346 sue me |
| 23:03.21 | Myrroddin | LOL |
| 23:03.28 | Ackis | I didn't get to ban anyone on Curse.com yet :( |
| 23:03.28 | Shefki | and a () |
| 23:03.30 | Shefki | and a end, |
| 23:03.40 | chiper | http://epicadvice.com/questions/4446/what-is-a-hardcore-raiding-guild/4448#4448 |
| 23:04.16 | Yivry | poor ackis |
| 23:04.23 | Myrroddin | Ackis, still quit the whole wow thing? |
| 23:04.27 | Shefki | Maybe one of these days that link will load. |
| 23:04.30 | durcyn | ban yourself, Ackis |
| 23:05.05 | Ackis | Myrroddin: yes |
| 23:05.05 | Shefki | Myrroddin: The error from Fade being a nil value is becuase you're trying to index the bar like so: |
| 23:05.10 | Ackis | durcyn: I just got one! HAH |
| 23:05.14 | Shefki | resBars[sender].bar:Fade(0.5) |
| 23:05.29 | Shefki | When you stored it like so: resBars[sender][info.target].bar = bar |
| 23:05.33 | durcyn | Ackis: welp. |
| 23:05.34 | Myrroddin | :O Ackis |
| 23:06.13 | Ackis | now there are 2! |
| 23:06.15 | Ackis | HAHAHAH |
| 23:06.22 | Shefki | And your disable visible bars stuff isn't going to work the way you think it will. |
| 23:06.42 | Shefki | As you have it configured now, if you log in with visible bars disabled and turn them on you have to reloadui to get them back. |
| 23:07.01 | Myrroddin | ouch |
| 23:07.32 | Shefki | Because you only build the bars in OnInit if the visiblebars is turned o. |
| 23:07.50 | Shefki | You probably want to always make the bars and just not populate them unless visiblebars is turned on. |
| 23:09.17 | Yivry | whoa what happened there? |
| 23:09.52 | Fisker | i punched my monitor |
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| 23:10.58 | Axodious | hi guys! |
| 23:11.21 | durcyn | or you could filter parts and joins, then not even see netsplits. |
| 23:12.03 | Myrroddin | gah, irc spam!!! LOL |
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| 23:16.31 | winkiller | wow, just did some napkin math. apparently for a Holy Pally you can get either 5% crit or 9000 mana |
| 23:17.23 | Myrroddin | Shefki, you were saying something about the visible bars, before irc blew up? |
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| 23:24.34 | comer | Yivry: http://paste.wowace.com/1627/ are we getting it right? |
| 23:25.09 | Fisker | STEEV |
| 23:27.29 | Tuller | ckknight or Kaelten poke :P |
| 23:27.36 | Kaelten | pong |
| 23:27.46 | Kaelten | but quick about to run otu the door to pick up my kid |
| 23:27.48 | Tuller | is there any reason that svn externals will hang? |
| 23:27.56 | Kaelten | hang? |
| 23:28.08 | Kaelten | generally means the external repository isn't responding, or is responding very slowly |
| 23:28.18 | Tuller | when i'm doing a checkout from gcode or another svn server, wowace externals are hanging |
| 23:28.31 | Tuller | just a pure checkout of say, libstub works fine, though |
| 23:28.38 | Yivry | comer it looks about right |
| 23:28.40 | Kaelten | that's very odd. |
| 23:28.49 | Kaelten | we don't do anything that'd cause them to hang |
| 23:28.49 | Yivry | only, where are the options to change the state? |
| 23:29.15 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 23:29.26 | Yivry | or is that supposed to be "msg"? |
| 23:29.42 | comer | Yivry: msg |
| 23:29.58 | comer | Yivry: were trying to use slash commands for that |
| 23:30.04 | Yivry | and why is the last if not in a function? |
| 23:30.18 | comer | forgot to put it in a function |
| 23:30.38 | Yivry | that should be inside setmessage |
| 23:30.43 | Yivry | but dont call it msg |
| 23:31.01 | Yivry | with this options table, your slash command would be /as msg <state> |
| 23:32.02 | comer | ahhh |
| 23:32.37 | comer | so the sub table is the /addon subtable state, correct? |
| 23:34.01 | Yivry | yea |
| 23:34.18 | comer | ahhhhh wow......that broke it upen for us |
| 23:34.23 | comer | open |
| 23:34.25 | comer | ty |
| 23:35.34 | Yivry | yw :) |
| 23:35.56 | Arrowmaster | comer: dont use the name Ace in an addon |
| 23:36.03 | comer | were not |
| 23:36.24 | Yivry | "AceAutoSkull" <= yes you do ;) |
| 23:36.25 | comer | this is the ace version of our addon, that was to keep them sepeateon our comp |
| 23:37.10 | comer | weve wirtten 3 versions on our comp and we are useing this to teach us how to use ace with an addon weve done, it will have a compeletely new name |
| 23:37.24 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 23:37.32 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r68 / (3 files in 1 directory): localization of Notes field in .toc |
| 23:37.43 | Fisker | AutoSkullFuck |
| 23:37.45 | comer | thats just an internal name, we never try to use anyones IP |
| 23:38.06 | Yivry | eeewww Fisker :P |
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| 23:38.37 | Yivry | comer: just call em v1 v2 and v3 :P |
| 23:40.03 | Yivry | I just noticed btw that blizzard made one of my addons obsolete... |
| 23:40.23 | Yivry | it implemented the exact same functionality as ItemSetChecker |
| 23:41.04 | KriLL3 | what does that addon do? |
| 23:41.14 | Yivry | @describe ItemSetChecker |
| 23:41.19 | Repo | Yivry: No project found that matches 'itemsetchecker' |
| 23:41.27 | Yivry | @describe isc |
| 23:41.28 | Repo | Yivry: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/isc/. ItemSetChecker. ItemSetChecker is a very lightweight addon that adds the names of the sets (from the Blizzard Equipment Manager) an item is i... |
| 23:41.52 | Yivry | i... = in to the item's tooltip |
| 23:41.58 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 23:42.05 | KriLL3 | did they take your code? =P |
| 23:42.17 | Yivry | I dont know, how do you find out? :P |
| 23:42.27 | KriLL3 | no idea |
| 23:43.56 | ulic | even if you could find out, I doubt there is anything you could do about it. |
| 23:44.14 | Yivry | but it would be cool to see if they did :P |
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| 23:44.48 | Arrowmaster | they likely did it C side |
| 23:45.14 | Myrroddin | ask the ctmod guys some time about blizzard absorbing code |
| 23:45.27 | Arrowmaster | cide doesnt care |
| 23:45.50 | Yivry | ct... now thats a long time agoo |
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| 23:46.07 | Myrroddin | ct is still around, but not many people use it |
| 23:46.32 | Myrroddin | sadly, we are still using the ct addon channel... |
| 23:46.37 | comer | ct mail mod is still my default |
| 23:46.40 | Yivry | what for should they use it? isnt it all present in blizzard and ace? |
| 23:46.57 | KriLL3 | comer: I use postal instead |
| 23:47.24 | Arrowmaster | Myrroddin: for what? cd doesnt even use that anymore |
| 23:47.30 | Arrowmaster | ct |
| 23:47.33 | comer | KriLL3: how is it different? |
| 23:47.41 | KriLL3 | comer: think they're about the same |
| 23:48.06 | Yivry | I used to be a Big fan of ct, until I learned about ace |
| 23:48.16 | steev | FISKER |
| 23:48.18 | comer | ive been using CTMailMod seince1.4 i think |
| 23:48.21 | Yivry | was a quick switch :P |
| 23:48.34 | comer | hard to leave an addon that is and has been so solid for so many years |
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| 23:48.39 | Yivry | (and I dont even remember all the stuff ct could do) |
| 23:48.43 | Myrroddin | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/librescomm-1-0/ as one example |
| 23:48.44 | KriLL3 | Yivry: same, though I didn't really switch from one to the other, was more of a per addon switch over a long time |
| 23:49.10 | Arrowmaster | Myrroddin: that does not use the old ct channel |
| 23:49.30 | Myrroddin | ? |
| 23:49.35 | Yivry | I just searched for the replacements for each ct function, and installed them, one by one |
| 23:49.44 | Shefki | Myrroddin: I was just saying that your visible bars stuff only makes the bars in OnInit. So if you have it turned off. You log in no bars will be made. If you turn them on still no bars will be made, you'd need a reloadui before it would happen. |
| 23:49.51 | Shefki | Myrroddin: There are two solutions to this. |
| 23:50.09 | Shefki | a) Have a function you call before every use of the bars that verifies that they exist and if not makes them. |
| 23:50.23 | Shefki | b) Always make the bars in OnInit and simply don't populate them if they are disabled. |
| 23:50.47 | Shefki | The former is a little harder on the programmer but technically cleaner from removing unneeded frames. |
| 23:50.53 | Myrroddin | i like b) |
| 23:50.55 | Shefki | The latter is easier to implement but creates unused frames. |
| 23:51.18 | Myrroddin | hmmm ok, so a) is better |
| 23:53.10 | Myrroddin | Shefki alright, i just committed a minor update for the .toc Notes field, currently at r68 |
| 23:53.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7018 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
| 23:54.17 | Myrroddin | that function would be in OnInit() for the verification, since that's where i'm making the bar group... |
| 23:54.51 | Shefki | You'd need to call it anywhere you used the bars to be safe. |
| 23:55.32 | Myrroddin | lines 601 and 928 then |
| 23:56.12 | Myrroddin | local function or not? |
| 23:58.59 | Yivry | hmm with the current flow of reward points, only 3,5 years before I can cash out the $500 :p |
| 23:59.10 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 23:59.31 | Myrroddin | Yivry, the old CTRA was oRA, BW, your fave raid frames all rolled together |
| 23:59.47 | Yivry | ye that was ctra |
| 23:59.53 | Yivry | but the rest of ct? |
