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| 00:07.38 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: you should add a module to mapster that allowes the map to display the blizzard POI stuff but without the quest text info |
| 00:12.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6992 / (10 files in 3 directories): Core: forward stack count for buffs/debuffs |
| 00:12.39 | Repo | Citadel: Remove use of UnitBuff/Debuff |
| 00:12.40 | Repo | Rotface: Fix an issue with ooze explode cast being pushed back |
| 00:17.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6993 Citadel/Rotface.lua: Citadel/Rotface: Remove a stray variable. |
| 00:22.22 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.0 * 9f0b42d /: [new tag, +5 commits] Tagging as release 1.0 |
| 00:22.37 | orionshock | nevcairiel, -- off what Yssaril was saying, have that module also put dots on the map too & integrate with tomtom, tho that might be something handynotes could do |
| 00:23.10 | Gnarfoz | ~seen syzygin |
| 00:23.12 | purl | Gnarfoz: i haven't seen 'syzygin' |
| 00:23.12 | Gnarfoz | ~seen syzygyn |
| 00:23.12 | purl | i haven't seen 'syzygyn', Gnarfoz |
| 00:23.16 | Gnarfoz | ~seen syzgyn |
| 00:23.17 | purl | syzgyn <n=ghost429@75.138.80.103> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 197d 19h 29m 46s ago, saying: 'It's rough though'. |
| 00:23.22 | Yssaril | orionshock: doesnt handynotes already do that? |
| 00:23.24 | Gnarfoz | that can't be him oO |
| 00:24.43 | orionshock | Yssaril, not sure, don't think so |
| 00:25.14 | Yssaril | you can put notes on the map with handynotes and it works fine with mapster as far as i have used it |
| 00:26.25 | orionshock | yes, but how bout the ingame QH PoI's? |
| 00:27.01 | Torhal | orionshock: They're supposed to work with TomTom, but I haven't been able to get them to. I haven't disabled Mapster yet to test, though. |
| 00:27.28 | SunTsu | man, skilling fishing is tiresome |
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| 00:52.01 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.0.1 * 4fbcbdf /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as release 1.0.1 |
| 00:53.47 | WobWork | SunTsu: less so than it used to be =P |
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| 01:11.00 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r454 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:11.02 | Repo | - added user-submitted PlayerCC and Target/PlayerInvuln classes |
| 01:11.03 | Repo | - added user-submitted root and silence groups to the CC modules |
| 01:11.04 | Repo | - filled out CC list a bit more with user-submitted spell id's |
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| 01:16.43 | [ArPharazon] | any curse admins still awake ? |
| 01:18.37 | [ArPharazon] | shreds Kaelten with a chainsaw |
| 01:19.50 | pompy | ~asktoask |
| 01:19.51 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 01:22.36 | [ArPharazon] | how many goddam times do we have to report a user on curse for spamming before something actually gets done about it ? |
| 01:23.16 | [ArPharazon] | http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2000441 |
| 01:23.55 | [ArPharazon] | check his comment log - he continually spams certain addons every few days |
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| 01:24.14 | [ArPharazon] | drives over ckknight |
| 01:24.18 | [ArPharazon] | follows Kaelten into a dark avenue. Hey test my crowbar! |
| 01:24.24 | [ArPharazon] | beautifies nevcairiel with some knuckle duster imprints |
| 01:25.40 | Torhal | Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? They don't have shit to do with the Curse website. That's all handled in the California office. |
| 01:26.01 | Torhal | Besides, nevcairiel isn't even a Curse employee. |
| 01:26.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6994 Citadel (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 01:26.29 | Repo | Citadel: Fix icons on some messages from my previous commit. |
| 01:28.04 | [ArPharazon] | torhal - last time i checked, kaelten was one of the head honchos @ curse and could sort stuff like that out |
| 01:28.14 | [ArPharazon] | until then - stfu - cos i didnt ask your opinion |
| 01:28.25 | Torhal | He works at the Alabama branch. |
| 01:28.36 | [ArPharazon] | fair enough - |
| 01:28.36 | Arrowmaster | he can contact somebody to sort stuff out but thats it |
| 01:28.45 | Torhal | And you came in here acting like an ass, so I felt inclined to tell you that you're a douche. |
| 01:28.51 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:28.53 | [ArPharazon] | i have reported the spammer lots of times tho - with nothing being done about it |
| 01:28.55 | [ArPharazon] | so fuck off |
| 01:29.00 | Arrowmaster | we all have |
| 01:32.34 | Mikk | [ArPharazon]: well.. deleting the user does exactly nothing |
| 01:32.44 | Mikk | he just makes a new one |
| 01:32.49 | [ArPharazon] | i know mikk |
| 01:32.50 | Mikk | or, i should say, they |
| 01:33.05 | [ArPharazon] | but that particular one has been going since 30/6/2009 :/ |
| 01:33.27 | Torhal | We've all been saying it should be a simple matter of a filter since it's the same damn pattern... |
| 01:34.12 | [ArPharazon] | thats why i came in here to hopefully get kaelten on it - he usually gets things done |
| 01:34.27 | Torhal | Out of his control unfortunately. |
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| 01:44.52 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6995 / (2 files in 1 directory): Core: bump toc |
| 01:51.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6996 Options/author-list.lua: update contributions list |
| 01:57.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r6997-release * r6997 : Pushing out new/fixed timers for Plagueworks. |
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| 02:16.37 | digmouse | morning everyone |
| 02:18.10 | Funkeh` | morning digmouse |
| 02:20.06 | digmouse | nah another Monday I hate Monday |
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| 02:31.07 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.5.0b / (5 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 02:31.09 | Repo | 114f1e6: dare i say it? this commit is dedicated to Fisker |
| 02:31.10 | Repo | cd1687d: remove the Filter All options (no longer needed with the new filters) |
| 02:31.14 | Repo | 505b4cc: miner will no longer commit shorter database files |
| 02:31.21 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.5.0b * c75d314 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.5.0b |
| 02:37.47 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r85 Ailo.lua: |
| 02:37.48 | Repo | Add tracking of the daily heroic dungeon (GetLFGDungeonRewards() hooray!) |
| 02:37.56 | Repo | Shows a little emblem of frost in front of the name in the tooltip if the char has done it in this "Daily Quest"-day |
| 02:49.27 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r86 Ailo.lua: Add option for daily heroic tracking |
| 02:53.33 | Mikk | @describe ailo |
| 02:53.34 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ailo/. Am I locked out?. Am I locked out? - Displays all RaidIDs for all chars |
| 02:57.41 | Megalon | http://img200.imageshack.us/i/ailo.jpg/ |
| 02:57.43 | Megalon | ;o |
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| 03:14.13 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.24 * r88 : Tagging as 1.0.24 |
| 03:14.15 | Repo | Added 'Daily Heroic'-tracking (shows emblem of frost in front of characters which already did it). |
| 03:14.17 | Repo | This needs to wipe the database, because of a small structural change. |
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| 03:26.46 | orionshock | @desc Starfox |
| 03:26.59 | orionshock | @desc ailo |
| 03:27.09 | orionshock | @describe ailo |
| 03:27.10 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ailo/. Am I locked out?. Am I locked out? - Displays all RaidIDs for all chars |
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| 03:49.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6998 Citadel/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update. |
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| 04:11.57 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-11-g024020b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 04:11.59 | Repo | 024020b: more info on debug |
| 04:12.00 | Repo | 0b4993b: more logic fixes, more like conveluted methods to make it act right |
| 04:12.01 | Repo | e9942e2: add some info to locale file |
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| 04:15.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Starinnia * r6999 Coliseum/Jaraxxus.lua: Coliseum/Jaraxxus: dGUID is 10th arg, not 9th |
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| 04:45.29 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r89 Ailo.lua: |
| 04:45.31 | Repo | Fix a bug which was introduced by the new db structure and a manual player update |
| 04:48.47 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r90 Ailo.lua: Remove unnecessary function call |
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| 05:07.55 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.25 * r91 : Tagging as 1.0.25 |
| 05:13.11 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r183 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 05:13.13 | Repo | Wow, lets not spam Fail_Professor_MutatedSlime when stunned by tear gas and immune to damage. |
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| 05:36.26 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r184 LibFail-1.0.lua: *Added fail Fail_Professor_MalleableGoo |
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| 05:44.40 | orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=8274 lol, im flagged as completing this quest |
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| 05:45.47 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 05:45.50 | Repo | fix for ticket # 18 no bars visible. please reset your profile to default to see changes. |
| 05:45.50 | Repo | still working on other tickets, some preliminary code in place which may or may not work. |
| 05:45.51 | Repo | I've been sick all weekend, so almost no work done, sorry |
| 05:50.37 | ckknight | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1263188522879.jpg |
| 05:57.43 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03mysticalos * r64 Scorchio2.lua: |
| 05:57.43 | Repo | Fix a bug with 13% spell damage options not saving/being honored |
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| 06:15.46 | asmodai | kandarz: Oh, I see you now want bug reports for quest issues. Are SV files still useful for you? |
| 06:19.48 | asmodai | Yssaril: heh, you dedicated a commit to Fisker? :) |
| 06:20.17 | Yssaril | i tried really hard not to |
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| 06:22.10 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 06:22.18 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:24.23 | Yssaril | but seriously for once he wasn't trolling and had a decent idea |
| 06:24.50 | asmodai | :| |
| 06:32.05 | asmodai | Yssaril: Who would've guessed it's possible, eh? |
| 06:33.01 | Yssaril | i still am not quite convinced that it wasn't an imposter |
| 06:33.36 | asmodai | Well, I did hide his body in Groktar's closet. |
| 06:34.05 | WobWork | is -that- what that smell was |
| 06:34.09 | WobWork | I thought it was just Groktar |
| 06:35.19 | orionshock | kandarz, the EQ-QG module should have tooltips if you can |
| 06:35.34 | asmodai | WobWork: heh, there's that too |
| 06:36.59 | kandarz | orionshock: It should already... |
| 06:39.12 | kandarz | orionshock: http://imgur.com/GENoE |
| 06:39.28 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r7000 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 06:39.39 | asmodai | kandarz: Did you catch my line above? |
| 06:40.04 | kandarz | I still haven't done anything with any of the files |
| 06:40.26 | kandarz | I have 203 emails I haven't read |
| 06:40.53 | orionshock | kandarz, nope, don't get those tooltips is there a special requirement ? |
| 06:41.27 | kandarz | Do you have the main EQ addon loaded? |
| 06:41.34 | kandarz | There shouldn't be anything needed |
| 06:41.55 | orionshock | kandarz, 2x EveryQuest_QuestGivers-%project-revision%\addon.lua:275: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 06:44.39 | asmodai | emails kandarz some more then :P |
| 06:45.02 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r17 addon.lua: Bug Fix? Maybe... |
| 06:45.23 | orionshock | kandarz, & it's @project-revision@ |
| 06:45.38 | kandarz | My intention was to remove the HandyNotes dependancy, but I've lost interest |
| 06:46.04 | KriLL3 | most people got handynotes anyway |
| 06:46.42 | orionshock | kandarz, why? |
| 06:46.52 | Repo | 10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r18 EveryQuest_QuestGivers.toc: @project-revision@ |
| 06:48.13 | kandarz | People have been asking to hide icons from either the minimap or world map (I don't know if I can do that with Handynotes), also, people want a Gathermate type of circle when they're close because the quest giver icons hide the real icons |
| 06:48.24 | orionshock | kandarz, yes Handynotes can |
| 06:48.30 | kandarz | per module? |
| 06:48.57 | kandarz | tbh, I haven't looked into it very hard |
| 06:49.23 | orionshock | i guess i was wrong |
| 06:49.30 | orionshock | tbh, handy notes has bad implementations |
| 06:49.46 | kandarz | I was just going to copy code from Gathermate and call it good |
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| 06:56.58 | orionshock | he should rewrite HN to handle everything exept the providing of the data points & do call backs for tooltips and clicks. the whole size/alpha/WM/MM options should all be handled by HandyNotes core |
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| 06:59.10 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r93 ClassDefaults.lua: Added Mages' Firestarter talent. |
| 07:00.32 | kandarz | orionshock: would that still allow for changing the icon depending on distance from it? like gathermate |
| 07:01.06 | orionshock | yes, if the module allows (makes sense for it) |
| 07:01.23 | orionshock | but would be handled by core |
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| 07:04.08 | Yssaril | orionshock: if that was all it did then it would be called astrolabe :P |
| 07:04.54 | orionshock | actually it does less |
| 07:05.03 | KriLL3 | what's with the healer running ahead of the group and pulling? starting to happen quite a lot, and it usually doesn't speed things up any... |
| 07:05.08 | orionshock | it's mostly just a thin client between real addons and astrolab |
| 07:05.30 | Yssaril | should just use astrolabe directly imo |
| 07:06.00 | digmouse | I sometimes click autorun and switch out for web surfing, which turns out that I ran ahead of the tanks :P |
| 07:06.22 | KriLL3 | digmouse: no this is intentional, they run ahead and cast ranged spells on the next group |
| 07:06.29 | KriLL3 | repeatedly |
| 07:06.35 | digmouse | lol |
| 07:06.43 | Yssaril | is the tank not pulling fast enough? |
| 07:06.46 | KriLL3 | I feel like hanging back and not helping but that will get me yelled at about being incompetent |
| 07:07.00 | KriLL3 | Yssaril: I'm the tank, and I pull before the last mob in the previous pack is dead |
| 07:07.19 | digmouse | yesterday I randomed a Deadmines on my alt, which took me 1 hour and a half to complete |
| 07:07.19 | Yssaril | bah just let them die and tell them to wait for pulls unless they want to tank :P |
| 07:07.22 | KriLL3 | as long as I know I got aggro on it or that it dies before it gets close to anything |
| 07:07.22 | kandarz | KriLL3 what instance are you doing? |
| 07:07.33 | KriLL3 | kandarz: seen it in most heroics |
| 07:07.49 | kandarz | Are you killing the last boss in most before the timer runs out? |
| 07:07.51 | KriLL3 | Drak, Nexus, CoS, to name some |
| 07:07.57 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 07:08.15 | kandarz | hmm, doesn't happen in my battlegroup and I pull constantly |
| 07:08.27 | KriLL3 | happens 1/5 runs now it seems |
| 07:08.46 | kandarz | Then again I quit doing heroics after I got my perky pug |
| 07:08.49 | KriLL3 | healer runs far ahead and pulls the group I was about to pull with no real benefit |
| 07:09.01 | KriLL3 | kandarz: I do it for frost marks |
| 07:09.24 | quiescens | it doesn't matter how fast you move |
| 07:10.06 | quiescens | everyone else thinks they can help the tank pull faster |
| 07:10.22 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r74 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: remove unused lib from avmodule |
| 07:10.34 | orionshock | quiescens, i remember the days when the hunter pulled |
| 07:11.26 | kandarz | What would be the most common cause of "Installation Failed" in CurseV4 under Win7? It worked yesterday and I haven't changed how it runs |
| 07:11.28 | KriLL3 | orionshock: that I don't mind, especially if they use misdirection |
| 07:11.38 | KriLL3 | tanks didn't use to have ranged attacks =P |
| 07:11.40 | orionshock | KriLL3, with out MD |
| 07:11.52 | KriLL3 | made it kinda dicy |
| 07:12.02 | KriLL3 | body pulling isn't always ideal |
| 07:12.22 | kandarz | Aren't you a druid? don't you just charge and spam swipe like I do? |
| 07:12.35 | quiescens | no |
| 07:12.39 | quiescens | haven't you played recently? |
| 07:13.06 | kandarz | I'd like to think so |
| 07:13.20 | quiescens | the current method is, hang on, the mage pulled, taunt, spam everything |
| 07:13.28 | KriLL3 | kandarz: depends on the situation, too many close groups and it's bad to charge |
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| 07:14.12 | kandarz | that's what cooldowns are for and being able to judge healer's ability |
| 07:14.25 | KriLL3 | and yes you need to look like a crazed japanese robot killing a typewriter to keep aggro nowadays, no one cares about marks, they all attack a target each |
| 07:14.56 | KriLL3 | kandarz: yes I can take multiple groups usually, was referring to the old days when we had no ranged attack at all when hunters pulled for us |
| 07:17.48 | quiescens | in my opinion its not a matter of whether the healer and tank can hypothetically handle it |
| 07:22.09 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r94 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:22.11 | Repo | Added an alternate hightlight color that is used by every talent proc. |
| 07:23.13 | KriLL3 | quiescens: eh? |
| 07:24.00 | quiescens | I'm just saying, people that aren't supposed to have been pulling shouldn't pull purely because they think the tank and healer can handle it |
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| 07:25.41 | nevcairiel | what if i'm the healer and the tank is just slow, can i pull then? :P |
| 07:26.19 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: sure thing, but if he's that slow he might not save you in time ;) |
| 07:26.29 | nevcairiel | I manage |
| 07:26.48 | KriLL3 | and sometimes I keep the pace slow because I'm unsure about the group, especially the healer |
| 07:27.07 | steev_ | is there a way to get currency in game? like how many of emblem X i have? kind of like how people track alt stuff - i'd like to track how many emblems of frost my different alts have (and if possible how many on an install basis versus account) |
| 07:27.09 | nevcairiel | when the healer starts pulling out of boredom, you know that you're too slow |
| 07:27.14 | KriLL3 | if the healer spends more time running ahead, pulling and dpsing than healing me / the party I'm not comfortable going quickly |
| 07:27.28 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: no this particular instance he was just ahead of me all the time |
| 07:27.33 | Shadowed | If the healer spends more time running ahead and pulling/dpsing, you aren't pulling enough :p |
| 07:27.42 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 07:27.44 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: no it means they're morons |
| 07:27.49 | steev_ | ^^ |
| 07:27.50 | Shadowed | not really |
| 07:27.52 | Shadowed | Heroics are stupid easy |
| 07:27.58 | nevcairiel | i usually run ahead because the damn group is just so slow |
| 07:27.59 | orionshock | steev_, try Broker_Currency |
| 07:28.02 | steev_ | i don't give a shit how easy something is |
| 07:28.07 | KriLL3 | yes for the most part, but too many get too cocky |
| 07:28.07 | nevcairiel | i dont like standing around and waiting |
| 07:28.10 | steev_ | if you want to tank, fucking queue as a tank |
| 07:28.22 | quiescens | I agree |
| 07:28.23 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I never make em wait, as said I'm pulling quickly |
| 07:28.24 | Shadowed | Pull faster! |
| 07:28.25 | steev_ | if you can't tank, stay the fuck back and let the tank do his job |
| 07:28.32 | quiescens | everyone wonders why there are no tanks |
| 07:28.36 | steev_ | if the group is really that bad |
| 07:28.38 | Shadowed | not really |
| 07:28.38 | quiescens | and then doesn't let the tanks tank |
| 07:28.40 | steev_ | then fucking leave it |
| 07:28.48 | nevcairiel | steev_: except i could tank, but who heals then :P |
| 07:28.52 | Shadowed | I queue as a tank and nobody ever has to pull for me |
| 07:28.56 | Shadowed | cause I'm always pulling more |
| 07:29.00 | KriLL3 | steev_: most groups are that bad now sadly |
| 07:29.05 | steev_ | KriLL3: oh i know |
| 07:29.11 | steev_ | i have 3 tanks |
| 07:29.16 | Shadowed | even if people are in 200-220 gear, as long as you have decent tank gear you can chain pull |
| 07:29.16 | steev_ | 2 healers |
| 07:29.23 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: I pull quickly, but not if I'm unsure about the group, which I am if the healer doesn't heal |
| 07:29.24 | quiescens | I see very little reason to pull multiple packs at the same time unless they are actually close enough to pull them at the same time |
| 07:29.40 | quiescens | a lot of classes can't dps nearly as effectively moving constantly anyway |
| 07:29.44 | Shadowed | You just do a bit of both |
| 07:29.49 | nevcairiel | not multiple at the same time, but at least start running to the next instantly :P |
| 07:29.58 | quiescens | I move off almost the instant the original pack is down |
| 07:30.02 | Shadowed | once mobs hit ~30 you aren't going to lose aggro (likely) |
| 07:30.05 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I usually start running / pull before last mob is dead |
| 07:30.05 | quiescens | and I still get people trying to run off and pull things |
| 07:30.10 | Shadowed | and you can go start to move to the next group |
| 07:30.15 | Shadowed | That's why :p |
| 07:30.18 | Shadowed | don't wait for the last group to die |
| 07:30.20 | quiescens | they run off and pull things while there are still things alive |
| 07:30.31 | quiescens | when they aren't the tank |
| 07:30.38 | steev_ | quiescens: i let them keep it |
| 07:30.43 | quiescens | can't |
| 07:30.46 | KriLL3 | because they got an illusion about that being faster |
| 07:30.48 | quiescens | the things aggro onto the healer |
| 07:30.49 | steev_ | when they bitch at me, i tell them to roll a tank if they don't like it |
| 07:31.02 | orionshock | in a guild run - recklessly pulling mobs is ok and you can get away with it. In a PuG, no..it's careless unless your all seasoned raiders |
| 07:31.09 | Shadowed | uhhhhh |
| 07:31.10 | Shadowed | you're wrong |
| 07:31.24 | KriLL3 | orionshock: errm, in a raid you get scolded and people think less of you if you behave recklessly |
| 07:31.25 | Shadowed | If you have bad gear sure |
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| 07:31.44 | orionshock | chain pulling has a place, with inexperianced and unknown pugs, no it's just asking for repair bills. not everyone is skilled regardless of gear |
| 07:31.45 | steev_ | Shadowed: my tank gear is something above 5k |
| 07:31.47 | steev_ | gs |
| 07:31.48 | Shadowed | But as long as you have semi-decent tank gear (not even stuff from raids) you can chain pull in every pug |
| 07:32.02 | nevcairiel | fucking gearscore, stop thinking in its terms |
| 07:32.04 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 07:32.05 | quiescens | I'm saying |
| 07:32.07 | steev_ | i don't give a shit - i'm the one who became tank - you don't like how "zomg slow" i'm going, kick me out |
| 07:32.12 | quiescens | its not chainpulling that's wrong |
| 07:32.17 | steev_ | i can get another group in seconds |
| 07:32.22 | quiescens | but its the tank and healer that decide whether to chain pull |
| 07:32.27 | quiescens | not the dps' perogative to force it on them |
| 07:32.28 | orionshock | KriLL3, i believe the context is in 5man pugs |
| 07:32.29 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: and I do, but some people don't think even that's enough, so they run ahead and pull even more even if that's multiple groups at once, and I'm not talking easy groups |
| 07:32.37 | Shadowed | Not if you complain that you're having people pull for you and leaving every group :p |
| 07:32.59 | Shadowed | I'm not sure how many LFD dungeons I'm up to, but I've yet had somebody try to pull for me |
| 07:33.04 | KriLL3 | and some healers just pull for the sake of it, even if I'm a meter behind and about to charge |
| 07:33.14 | Shadowed | then let them die |
| 07:33.15 | steev_ | Shadowed: i pull at *my* pace - not what some fucktard dps that are a dime a dozen want the pace to be |
| 07:33.22 | quiescens | its *annoying* either way |
| 07:33.35 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: tempting, but they'll whine and the party will assume I suck |
| 07:33.41 | steev_ | if all my runes and shit are on cooldown |
| 07:33.47 | olafski | who cares if the party whines :P |
| 07:33.48 | steev_ | you bet your ass im not pulling the next group |
| 07:33.53 | Shadowed | You whine that people pull for you, and you care if they whine because you let them die if you pull |
| 07:33.57 | Shadowed | maybe you should stop caring :> |
| 07:34.00 | olafski | dps doesn't have the right to whine |
| 07:34.11 | steev_ | Shadowed: you're the one saying you'd do it |
| 07:34.13 | olafski | if they don't like it they can leave and wait in the queue for another 15 minutes ;) |
| 07:34.17 | Shadowed | absolutely |
| 07:34.28 | steev_ | then you're bad |
| 07:34.34 | Shadowed | but I just always tank, since the other tanks are generally idiots |
| 07:34.45 | KriLL3 | I guess I'm quaint in thinking the tank sets the pace and the tank sets kill order... neither seems true anymore |
| 07:34.48 | steev_ | okay |
| 07:35.10 | steev_ | that makes no sense Shadowed |
| 07:35.15 | quiescens | imo if you want the tank to pull faster |
| 07:35.17 | steev_ | "i'd pull more mobs too" |
| 07:35.19 | Shadowed | It's simple |
| 07:35.20 | quiescens | ask them to |
| 07:35.24 | quiescens | is better than |
| 07:35.25 | KriLL3 | doesn't matter what I mark with a skull, doesn't matter if I marked the caster/healer, they still dps what ever they please and get annoyed when I can't hold aggro |
| 07:35.28 | quiescens | oh well i'll just pull without the tank |
| 07:35.32 | Shadowed | The times that I queue as a healer, I'd pull mobs if the tank is being too slow |
| 07:35.35 | Shadowed | but 99% of the time I queue as a tank |
| 07:35.41 | Shadowed | Who the hell marks in heroics |
| 07:35.47 | steev_ | i do |
| 07:35.47 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: I don't anymore |
| 07:35.51 | KriLL3 | since they all ignore it |
| 07:35.53 | steev_ | when people start acting retarded |
| 07:35.53 | nevcairiel | srsly, marking takes time you could use to build aggro already |
| 07:35.54 | Shadowed | You both are making heroics far far far far far harder than they are |
| 07:35.56 | olafski | I mark 4 packs in pit of saron |
| 07:35.57 | KriLL3 | but at least check my damn target |
| 07:36.01 | olafski | and the healers in halls of reflection |
| 07:36.04 | quiescens | no what we're sayying is |
| 07:36.06 | steev_ | Shadowed: no - people like you are |
| 07:36.13 | quiescens | its not "whether or not its hard" |
| 07:36.14 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I mark with keybinds |
| 07:36.16 | steev_ | if the tank isn't going at "your" pace |
| 07:36.18 | KriLL3 | doesn't take time |
| 07:36.21 | Shadowed | steev_: Here's a better question, how long does it take you to clear a heroic |
| 07:36.23 | steev_ | you pull |
| 07:36.25 | KriLL3 | and I do it on the run |
| 07:36.28 | Shadowed | LFD pug, solo queuing |
| 07:36.31 | KriLL3 | not while fighting |
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| 07:36.42 | quiescens | its essentialy being annoying |
| 07:36.44 | steev_ | Shadowed: i always solo queue - as a tank, 15 mins |
| 07:36.48 | steev_ | as dps, probably 10 |
| 07:36.48 | quiescens | just because people can cope |
| 07:37.03 | steev_ | is that 5 extra minutes *really* that important? |
| 07:37.07 | Shadowed | Not really, you make the heroic harder on yourself if you mark |
| 07:37.15 | Shadowed | relax and just keep everything tanked |
| 07:37.20 | steev_ | Shadowed: no, i mark when people consistently can't target off me |
| 07:37.27 | Shadowed | again |
| 07:37.32 | Shadowed | "relax and just keep everything tanked" |
| 07:37.38 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: swipe can't keep aggro on a full group being hit by well geared dps on each one |
| 07:37.39 | Shadowed | They're heroics, they aren't ICC 25 hard modes |
| 07:37.54 | nevcairiel | when i tank trash i just aoe tank everything and i very rarely lose a mob to a dps |
| 07:37.57 | Shadowed | Stuff typically dies fast enough in that case that it doesn't matter too much |
| 07:38.01 | KriLL3 | and they whine when they do pull aggro and don't use their anti aggro abilities |
| 07:38.02 | steev_ | Shadowed: i don't give a shit what it is - if you *aren't* the tank - notice the aren't - you don't do the pull |
| 07:38.27 | steev_ | not everyone has multitaunt |
| 07:38.30 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I can usually cope but not always, main issue being low rage and nothing hitting me yet to build it |
| 07:38.37 | Shadowed | that's where chain pulling helps |
| 07:38.52 | Shadowed | you'll pretty much always have enough rage |
| 07:38.54 | steev_ | lost cause imo |
| 07:39.07 | nevcairiel | once you get into proper swiping you wont have low rage anymore =P |
| 07:39.09 | Cyrez | Tank or not, if the tank is preoccupied and the healer gets aggro, I do something. |
| 07:39.24 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yes, but until then I don't have aggro, and I can't get it if the dps starts up |
| 07:39.28 | Shadowed | The only mobs where threat is a pain is like VH |
| 07:39.38 | steev_ | Cyrez: there is a difference between a healer "getting aggro" and a healer pulling the next set of mobs |
| 07:39.40 | Shadowed | but everything else it's pretty easy to keep a decent rage buffer |
| 07:39.46 | steev_ | if the healer does that to me, fuck em, they can tank it |
| 07:40.02 | steev_ | i've switched to dps spec/gear mid instance before |
| 07:40.21 | nevcairiel | watch the healer switch into tank spec/gear and see what happens :P |
| 07:40.21 | Cyrez | Yeah, that's utter stupidity. It's like, "Nice pull, have fun with that..." |
| 07:40.35 | olafski | I usually ask my personal healer to pull more ;) |
| 07:40.46 | steev_ | nevcairiel: *shrug* i don't have a healing spec but oh well, if they can tank it without a healer thats fine |
| 07:41.35 | steev_ | Cyrez: thats what im saying - unless the tank asks you to - you don't pull more mobs, thats what the tank is there for |
| 07:41.54 | steev_ | everyone wonders why there are no tanks around, but then they pull stupid shit like that |
| 07:42.06 | Shadowed | Actually |
| 07:42.08 | nevcairiel | i never had those troubles |
| 07:42.12 | nevcairiel | but maybe i just pull fast enough :d |
| 07:42.15 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 07:42.20 | KriLL3 | the most obnoxious player I've ever met was a priest that had healing role, but spent most of his time dps:ing, even to the point of letting other dps die, and he pulled all the time, if we were in the middle of killing 3 packs the stopped healing, ran ahead and pulled 2 more |
| 07:42.26 | quiescens | that's not our point? |
| 07:42.27 | KriLL3 | then bitched about me not seeing him do so behind a wall |
| 07:42.29 | Shadowed | It's more likely because bad tanks are obvious very fast, compared to bad healers or dps |
| 07:42.38 | steev_ | i have no trouble chain pulling, if the healer tells me i can go faster |
| 07:42.40 | Shadowed | Bad tanks will disband a group faster than a bad healer or dps |
| 07:42.50 | Shadowed | See, you guys wait to ask the healer |
| 07:42.56 | Shadowed | just chain pull and pay attention to what the healer does |
| 07:43.13 | Shadowed | If he's going out of mana, or you're having to use cooldowns to survive a group then pull a little slower |
| 07:43.15 | KriLL3 | I always chain pull, but not if I'm unsure about the healer, which I am if they plainly don't know what they're doing |
| 07:43.29 | Shadowed | I'll chain pull even if the healer is stupid and has unenchanted and ungemmed gear |
| 07:43.34 | Shadowed | It's not a dungeon run if I'm not rotating cooldowns |
| 07:43.35 | KriLL3 | if they try to jocky for dps meter they're clearly nuts |
| 07:44.01 | nevcairiel | if they manage to be good on dps meter and keep the group up, everyone else sucks :p |
| 07:44.11 | KriLL3 | he didn't |
| 07:44.26 | KriLL3 | he was only above the rogue, but he was in leveling blues and died a lot from not getting any healing |
| 07:44.36 | nevcairiel | in most heroics i dps most of the time as healer, because there is just nothing to do otherwise |
| 07:44.45 | KriLL3 | literally no healing at all, except on me, grudgingly, he kept me just from dying |
| 07:44.54 | Shadowed | That's just a bad player more than anything |
| 07:44.56 | nevcairiel | short of HoR, all heroics are so trivial to heal |
| 07:45.05 | steev_ | i only bother doing heroics when i need money (crusader orbs still sell for 200g a pop) - or for the daily 2 frost emblems |
| 07:45.10 | steev_ | other than that, i can't stand em |
| 07:45.23 | Shadowed | Heroics are fun |
| 07:45.30 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: he had 5200gs and called all of us useless loosers constantly because we died / went slow from the lack of damn healing |
| 07:45.31 | quiescens | dpsing if there's nothing to heal is fine imo |
| 07:45.37 | KriLL3 | he spend all instance throwing holy fire |
| 07:45.39 | Shadowed | KriLL3: You guys really do not help your case when you reference gearscores |
| 07:45.40 | quiescens | its not creating extra work for other people or being annoying |
| 07:45.40 | Shadowed | fyi |
| 07:45.57 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: decent measure of their general gear level |
| 07:45.58 | quiescens | someone pulling when they shouldn't just because They would like to is annoying |
| 07:46.00 | steev_ | Shadowed: how does throwing out "gear scores" hurt our case? |
| 07:46.03 | Shadowed | no, it's not |
| 07:46.06 | KriLL3 | yes, it is |
| 07:46.07 | steev_ | that is bullshit |
| 07:46.08 | Shadowed | Go use something that shows average item level |
| 07:46.20 | KriLL3 | 5200 means they got some decent gear |
| 07:46.23 | steev_ | Shadowed: fuck elitistgroup |
| 07:46.24 | nevcairiel | gear score is for dumb people .. i for one have no clue how much 5200 means, it could be lvl 20 greens for all i care |
| 07:46.33 | Shadowed | Not something that is a retarded formula on top of item level |
| 07:46.38 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: it's 232/245 |
| 07:46.45 | steev_ | Shadowed: if you really must know though, my tank gear average item level is 247 |
| 07:47.01 | KriLL3 | steev_: which isn't very descriptive either frankly |
| 07:47.07 | steev_ | KriLL3: exactly |
| 07:47.12 | Shadowed | sure it is |
| 07:47.13 | nevcairiel | before gearscore we referenced people by their approx. tier in gear, what was so wrong with that? |
| 07:47.14 | KriLL3 | there is plenty of tanking gear that is better even though it's lower iLVL |
| 07:47.19 | nevcairiel | we said t7 gear, t8 gear |
| 07:47.21 | Shadowed | 232/245 tells you a lot more than a gearscore |
| 07:47.22 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with that? |
| 07:47.44 | Shadowed | People like easy numbers |
| 07:47.49 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well non raiders are kinda hard to peg to a tier |
| 07:47.57 | steev_ | nevcairiel: well... they introduced t9{.25,.5,.75} |
| 07:48.01 | Cyrez | GearScore, at the least, does keep each player's items in a searchable database. |
| 07:48.10 | Shadowed | Pretty sure Examiner does too |
| 07:48.51 | steev_ | gear score, item level, so forth, doesn't show skill at all |
| 07:49.00 | steev_ | simply shows that they got the gear |
| 07:49.04 | KriLL3 | Cyrez: doesn't that require normal GS? which is horribly bloated and spammy compared to GS lite |
| 07:49.32 | Cyrez | My UI is so, eh, altered, I wouldn't notice. |
| 07:49.56 | KriLL3 | steev_: indeed, though it's not incorrect to expect a better performance out of someone with raiding gear (5400) than someone in leveling blues (3000) |
| 07:49.57 | steev_ | i ran a heroic the other day, with a healer who had on all 245 gear, but i was consistently at around 10% health the entire instance |
| 07:50.10 | KriLL3 | steev_: eh? |
| 07:50.23 | KriLL3 | how did he manage that? |
| 07:50.26 | Cyrez | steev_: Which dungeon? |
| 07:50.28 | quiescens | because they can |
| 07:50.30 | steev_ | KriLL3: fuck if i know |
| 07:50.36 | quiescens | just like pulling things is okay just because you can! |
| 07:50.48 | steev_ | Cyrez: i don't even remember - i just remember saying ill never run with them as a healer again |
| 07:50.49 | nevcairiel | Thats an extra thrill component added |
| 07:50.55 | steev_ | (they were actually FROM our server) |
| 07:50.57 | nevcairiel | being a one-hit to everything, you pay more attention :P |
| 07:51.12 | steev_ | nevcairiel: nah, in heroics thats at least 2 hits |
| 07:51.20 | KriLL3 | depends on what |
| 07:51.25 | steev_ | either way though, that low health sound annoys the shit out of me |
| 07:51.26 | nevcairiel | with 10%? well i guess it depends on what hits you |
| 07:51.43 | KriLL3 | btw I've had a healer pull last boss in old kingdom while we were still running down the ramp =P |
| 07:51.45 | KriLL3 | was fun |
| 07:51.52 | Cyrez | The healadin I made on my friend's account could handle H VH undergeared. That healer must've sucked. |
| 07:51.58 | KriLL3 | he was the only one inside the doors |
| 07:52.22 | KriLL3 | he seemed oblivious to them |
| 07:52.23 | steev_ | KriLL3: AN you mean |
| 07:52.37 | KriLL3 | ah yes |
| 07:52.41 | KriLL3 | get em confused |
| 07:52.47 | steev_ | that is my favorite instance really |
| 07:52.50 | SunTsu | steev_: probably downranking to rank 1 |
| 07:52.51 | KriLL3 | azul-nerub |
| 07:53.11 | KriLL3 | steev_: I don't like it, the second boss especially, seems a bit.. weird |
| 07:53.20 | steev_ | SunTsu: i don't recall, i was on vent yelling at my guildie who suggested we take her cuz she was a friend of his |
| 07:53.29 | steev_ | "shes good" |
| 07:53.31 | KriLL3 | you can bug it and remove the ads, or wait for the boss to kill em |
| 07:54.29 | steev_ | KriLL3: *love* pound for killing dps that insist on standing next to me though :D |
| 07:54.39 | KriLL3 | I guess I got a bad flavor in my mouth from tanking that place in iLVL 200 items back when LK came out and wiping endlessly on first boss' guards |
| 07:55.15 | KriLL3 | timed ads, net cocoons and party wide poison etc |
| 07:55.35 | KriLL3 | was the only instance I couldn't do back then |
| 07:55.43 | SunTsu | I don't mind AN, it's easy, I don't like it's neighbour, Ahn Kahet, it's a bitch |
| 07:56.00 | KriLL3 | it's also easy, though it appears in the random rotation far too often |
| 07:56.31 | KriLL3 | feels like half of the runs I do are in old kingdom or HoS |
| 07:56.33 | SunTsu | KriLL3: it is easy if you have a group that knows how to do it, which is rather seldom |
| 07:56.41 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: eh? |
| 07:56.46 | KriLL3 | you mean what way to go? |
| 07:57.12 | steev_ | KriLL3: yeah, i've taken a page from haste's Kousei stuff and started extending my id's for instances i constantly get |
| 07:57.13 | SunTsu | KriLL3: the usual "Don't keep standing in that fire" "Don't pull more than 3 groups" |
| 07:57.39 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: that fire is kinda trivial |
| 07:57.49 | KriLL3 | most groups I'm in ignore it |
| 07:58.14 | KriLL3 | steev_: nice |
| 07:58.18 | steev_ | was in Forge of Souls the other day - decently geared- not spectacular orc dk |
| 07:58.27 | SunTsu | tanks trying to me smart, pulling a group, by that adding another one, group trying to reach the tank adding wnother two |
| 07:58.34 | steev_ | almost full 232-ish gear, a few 200s in there |
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| 07:58.48 | steev_ | i tell the group, look, some of these groups are really spread out |
| 07:58.53 | KriLL3 | I hate FoS, caster mobs widely spaced |
| 07:58.56 | steev_ | let me collect them up before you start dpsing |
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| 07:59.15 | SunTsu | steev_: FoS is a royal pita as a caster |
| 07:59.17 | KriLL3 | might as well have called it "We hate tanks" |
| 07:59.24 | SunTsu | "reflected" |
| 07:59.25 | steev_ | i start running toward the 3rd group (first group in the instance with a Shade wannabe) |
| 07:59.38 | steev_ | mage fucking blinks in and frost novas |
| 07:59.45 | steev_ | gg |
| 07:59.56 | steev_ | so i let him die |
| 08:00.01 | steev_ | then i picked everything up |
| 08:00.05 | steev_ | he left the group |
| 08:00.06 | KriLL3 | I wish ferals had some ranged silence, even if it was pve only |
| 08:00.12 | Cyrez | Genius. ._. |
| 08:00.21 | steev_ | next pull |
| 08:00.38 | steev_ | i start running towards them (the bridge with 2 of those skeletons with the bubbles) |
| 08:00.45 | Shadowed | FoS isn't really that bad even with the casters |
| 08:00.47 | steev_ | priest says i need mana |
| 08:00.51 | steev_ | so i stop |
| 08:00.54 | steev_ | i'm waiting |
| 08:00.58 | Shadowed | you just either use LoS to pull, or you position yourself so your AE hits them all |
| 08:01.03 | KriLL3 | a nightmare to meet a whole pack of casters widely spaced, only choice is to run/charge around and spam attacks, but dps never bothers with letting us get base aggro, and they usually hit 2 mobs so far from each other I can't hit both at the same time |
| 08:01.18 | SunTsu | steev_: I wonder what's up with dps these days, I sometimes sit down after they pulled and watch them die, commenting "who wants aggro that badly deserves it" |
| 08:01.24 | steev_ | the hunter (who is in the same guild as the priest) - runs past me and starts pulling |
| 08:01.28 | SunTsu | maybe god complex or something |
| 08:01.35 | steev_ | SunTsu: ask Shadowed |
| 08:01.42 | steev_ | he's apparently a godly tank and healer |
| 08:01.48 | Shadowed | Not my fault you guys are slow pullers |
| 08:02.01 | KriLL3 | how do you LoS in FoS? isn't it all open for the most part? |
| 08:02.11 | steev_ | KriLL3: good question, ask Shadowed |
| 08:02.15 | Shadowed | some of the caster groups are in those rooms with the circle disk thing |
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| 08:02.21 | Shadowed | that are enclosed |
| 08:02.23 | steev_ | "some" |
| 08:02.30 | KriLL3 | most are out on walkways |
| 08:02.35 | Shadowed | steev_: I know reading is hard and all, but let's review what I said |
| 08:02.40 | Shadowed | "you just either use LoS to pull, or you position yourself so your AE hits them all" |
| 08:02.47 | digmouse | IIRC just 2 groups are LoS-able |
| 08:02.49 | Shadowed | The or modifies it, so you can do either A *or* B |
| 08:02.54 | digmouse | the 2 before Father |
| 08:02.57 | Shadowed | you do not have to do only A or only B |
| 08:03.04 | steev_ | Shadowed: alternately, as dps you can fucking wait for the tank to grab aggro |
| 08:03.16 | digmouse | so I just tell them to focus on one |
| 08:03.16 | steev_ | apparently thats too hard for your brain to grasp |
| 08:03.35 | KriLL3 | and hit tanks primary target, instead of one I clearly swiped once/twice since it's far from the main pack of mobs |
| 08:03.39 | Shadowed | I wish I could be delusional like you and take heroics super seriously |
| 08:03.44 | SunTsu | steev_: oh noes, maybe somebody else does dps in that time and they _could_ get ahead by that |
| 08:04.01 | steev_ | SunTsu: recount in heroics is srsbsns, ask Shadowed |
| 08:04.02 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: we're not all badass raiders |
| 08:04.08 | Shadowed | uhhh |
| 08:04.14 | Shadowed | I'm a casual, I tank wearing triumph gear |
| 08:04.37 | Shadowed | I'm in full triumph gear from chain tanking heroics |
| 08:04.50 | SunTsu | Shadowed: I don't take it seriously, but it's unnerving and makes life as a tank unneccessary stress full |
| 08:04.54 | KriLL3 | same, plus some 245 crafted |
| 08:05.16 | Shadowed | The only instance that is really a pain to tank is HoR |
| 08:05.23 | steev_ | SunTsu: just do what i do - go at the pace you feel comfortable with - if anyone in the group doesn't like it, they can leave |
| 08:05.29 | KriLL3 | tanking is already the hardest job by far in pve, don't like that parties seem hellbent on making it even harder |
| 08:05.32 | SunTsu | Shadowed: I like tanking, but I don't like having to run around chasing mobs to save the party when waiting 1 or two seconds would do the trick |
| 08:05.44 | Shadowed | what class SunTsu? |
| 08:06.01 | SunTsu | Shadowed: DK, the one tanking class without a mass taunt |
| 08:06.01 | steev_ | Shadowed: fyi, DnD doesn't reach all 5 mobs in those 5 pulls in FoS |
| 08:06.04 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: HoR is fine as long as your healer doesn't suck, people use LoS tactic and they kill them in the right order or at least interupt the priest |
| 08:06.10 | pompy | or if ur dps is good enough, they jus kill it while its running to them |
| 08:06.13 | Shadowed | LoSing is more of a pain in the ass |
| 08:06.15 | steev_ | KriLL3: you must be lucky |
| 08:06.31 | Shadowed | Tried it once, made it harder not easier since it messed with camera |
| 08:06.33 | steev_ | i tell people LoS... and they all just stand in the middle waiting on the mobs to get there |
| 08:06.34 | KriLL3 | mass taunt doesn't really help vs casters anyway, you taunt em but when taunt ends you still can't hit em to keep it up |
| 08:06.40 | SunTsu | So I prefer playing dps these days, let somebody else get the blame |
| 08:06.50 | Shadowed | SunTsu: It's not about mass taunt really, it's just that using single taunt to keep it on you till it dies |
| 08:06.53 | KriLL3 | steev_: I put up a cooking fire and have harsh words ready if they don't stand on it |
| 08:07.04 | steev_ | heh |
| 08:07.17 | KriLL3 | yet I've had people run to the other corner instead... |
| 08:07.21 | SunTsu | Shadowed: or until you die, because there is something called cool down |
| 08:07.22 | KriLL3 | splitting the mobs |
| 08:07.27 | quiescens | its okay, its the tank's job to pick them up~ |
| 08:07.48 | KriLL3 | paladin healers in there are a no-no btw |
| 08:08.04 | steev_ | if they know what they are doing they are fine |
| 08:08.07 | KriLL3 | can't heal a party well enough on the boss that brings you all to 1/4 |
| 08:08.23 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I healed HoR with my paladin all right, but it's the only heroic that I managed to get OOM |
| 08:08.44 | KriLL3 | seen well geared and obviously skilled paladins healers fail to heal us all back up after that before next one, 1-2 party members die |
| 08:08.59 | quiescens | eh |
| 08:09.04 | quiescens | even the other healers have trouble |
| 08:09.04 | steev_ | as a human dk, i can manage to avoid 2 of those fears - one via ibf (or ams don't recall which, i think its ams - but its always pure luck of having it up when he actually fears) - and via the racial |
| 08:09.18 | quiescens | when the healing is reduced to 25% |
| 08:09.26 | quiescens | its more about how fast you can kill it |
| 08:09.32 | KriLL3 | steev_: I can avoid fear using berserk, doesn't seem to mitigate the dmg though |
| 08:09.51 | KriLL3 | quiescens: dmg is reduced also |
| 08:09.52 | steev_ | KriLL3: weird, i take 0 damage when i avoid the fear |
| 08:09.56 | quiescens | I know |
| 08:10.04 | SunTsu | The best thing was in pinacle heroic, I had dps running before me, pulling, even groups, which cost their life, stating "How the heck do you tank?!" - I seldom do that, but I left without a comment |
| 08:10.10 | quiescens | but killing it faster leaves it on -75% for less time |
| 08:10.21 | steev_ | however HoR i pretty much refuse to do outside of a guild healer |
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| 08:10.51 | quiescens | its very difficult to keep everyone alive if it does more than a fear or two |
| 08:10.53 | KriLL3 | HoR is fine imo, though yes double mercenary (rogue) before they nerfed it was taxing |
| 08:10.56 | quiescens | at -75% |
| 08:11.22 | steev_ | i was fine with double merc, it was the double mage flame strikes that would always take out half the group |
| 08:11.48 | KriLL3 | well mercs stun randoms |
| 08:11.50 | KriLL3 | including healer |
| 08:12.05 | KriLL3 | I've died in there from that |
| 08:12.10 | steev_ | yeah, a pain, sure - but the sudden burst of 2 flamestrikes at once :) |
| 08:12.20 | steev_ | ibf stops their stun on me :) |
| 08:12.34 | KriLL3 | never had that, usually go with my brother's hunter, and he ice traps one ranged |
| 08:12.58 | KriLL3 | hunter with misdirect & trap are very useful |
| 08:13.08 | steev_ | yeah... about that |
| 08:13.09 | KriLL3 | I don't need to run out and hit the rifleman |
| 08:13.26 | steev_ | i've yet to pug with a hunter who even knows wtf a trap is if it isn't snakes or the flame one |
| 08:13.36 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 08:13.40 | steev_ | or a mage that knows how to sheep or counter spell |
| 08:13.46 | steev_ | rogues that don't know how to blind or kick |
| 08:13.51 | KriLL3 | well I did have to direct him into using trap and misdirect =P |
| 08:14.01 | steev_ | i mean ffs, they even removed the requirement of blinding powder |
| 08:14.11 | KriLL3 | most mages seem to realize counter spell is a good idea on casters standing back I don't want to charge |
| 08:14.35 | steev_ | i was in a FoS group earlier |
| 08:14.37 | KriLL3 | but yes rogues just pile on dps, they don't ever interupt anything as a rule, even if it's a aoe dmg spell or heal etc |
| 08:14.46 | steev_ | rogue, mage, paladin, priest (healer) - myself, orc dk |
| 08:15.11 | steev_ | "phantom blast is what hurts me the most, can we please use counterspell, kick, blind, hammer to break them" |
| 08:15.25 | steev_ | "don't you have mind freeze and strangulate?" |
| 08:15.29 | olafski | :D |
| 08:15.35 | olafski | "stop dps when you get overlord's brand" |
| 08:15.39 | steev_ | "yes, ill be using them to stop the first 2 - after that they will be on cooldown" |
| 08:15.46 | olafski | after wipe: "sorry but i was doing so good dps didn't want to stop" |
| 08:16.11 | steev_ | "well i don't see why i should use $misc_interrupt when you can just do it" |
| 08:16.46 | olafski | well, mind freeze is off cd on the 3rd phantom blast ,) |
| 08:17.07 | steev_ | olafski: nope, i'm out of melee range because he's jumped to a random dps at that point |
| 08:17.54 | olafski | true enough |
| 08:18.01 | steev_ | unmitigated, thats a 15k hit |
| 08:18.17 | olafski | I usually just eat those hits |
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| 08:18.19 | Repo | Patch suggested by Gaff3 in Ticket 67 |
| 08:18.22 | olafski | keeps it interesting for my gf (healer) :P |
| 08:18.23 | KriLL3 | especially love killing that one over eager dps:er, usually with aggro wipe at last boss in PoS, I can't hit much before he "power overwhelming!" and I need to run from him behind ice patches |
| 08:18.46 | steev_ | KriLL3: 99% of the time he boots me where no ice patches are :/ |
| 08:18.48 | KriLL3 | "zomg tank!" is their usual response when boss one hits them while I'm avoiding |
| 08:19.04 | KriLL3 | steev_: it's straight back, position yourself so you'll fly over one |
| 08:19.05 | steev_ | we kicked a healer at that point once |
| 08:19.18 | steev_ | I WASN'T HEALING WHEN I GOT THE BRAND IT WAS MY HOTS |
| 08:19.33 | KriLL3 | was a hunter btw, he was running right for him slowed on ice for a long while, guess keybinding FD is hard |
| 08:19.35 | steev_ | KriLL3: yeah i normally try to |
| 08:19.52 | KriLL3 | guess the hunter assumed I'd taunt... |
| 08:20.07 | KriLL3 | sadly I was too far away since I was avoiding the boss |
| 08:20.19 | KriLL3 | wish hunters actually used FD once in a while |
| 08:20.46 | steev_ | back when rogues still had to use blinding powder, i had like 400 in my bags |
| 08:20.47 | KriLL3 | taunt has cooldown and I'm the only one in party that can use it, a FD every now and then would give me the chance to use taunt more if needed |
| 08:21.03 | steev_ | another rogue in the guild was like, i can't blind, i don't have any of the stupid powder |
| 08:21.49 | steev_ | KriLL3: i've told people they get one taunt and one death grip, if they still can't watch their threat at that point, sorry for the repair bill |
| 08:22.58 | steev_ | okay, 2:30, work at 8, time for bed, night all, its been fun chatting |
| 08:23.18 | steev_ | and whomever offered up the suggestion, ill look into broker_currency |
| 08:24.13 | olafski | nn |
| 08:25.37 | KriLL3 | broker_currency is ok, sadly like a lot of LDB addons it's f.ugly, no idea why that seems to be common among them |
| 08:25.51 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r305 GridRoster.lua: Remove the offending assertion in GridRoster. |
| 08:25.52 | Repo | Fixes Ticket-66 and 68. |
| 08:25.53 | Repo | I'm not happy about it, though, as GUID still lingers around and may be used where units would be better. |
| 08:26.16 | steev_ | KriLL3: im just after how its done, ill write my own thing based on it |
| 08:26.17 | SunTsu | I like mages who pull aggro, iceblock just when the mob is pounding them, and after ice blocking watch the mob heading to the healer |
| 08:26.18 | olafski | hm. new abilities get put on your actionbars automatically now? oO |
| 08:26.46 | KriLL3 | olafski: yes and I hate it |
| 08:26.51 | SunTsu | olafski: yeah, they do |
| 08:26.56 | olafski | well, good for new players |
| 08:27.10 | KriLL3 | started leveling a new char and each time I went to a trainer I had to mess with my bars |
| 08:27.16 | SunTsu | I never checked if there is a switch for it |
| 08:27.35 | olafski | I don't readily see one |
| 08:27.37 | olafski | but didn't really look |
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| 08:29.00 | steev_ | hrm, can broker_currency do it via install rather than account? |
| 08:29.26 | steev_ | i.e. i have one b.net account, but 3 wow accounts |
| 08:30.15 | steev_ | switching to a toon on the other account... is kinda why i want the addon in the first place, to not have to do that :D (at least, not more than i have to) |
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| 08:31.14 | KriLL3 | don't think so, saved data isn't shared between accounts to my knowledge |
| 08:31.34 | steev_ | yeah i just got to looking at the sv stuff, and you're right :/ |
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| 08:32.19 | steev_ | basically, i'm tryin to keep track of how close i am to getting another p.saronite |
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| 08:33.08 | steev_ | im only at around 8 or 9 though |
| 08:33.29 | SunTsu | olafski: yeah, there doesn't seem to be one, unfortunately |
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| 08:37.32 | olafski | it's not _that_ much of an inconvenience is it |
| 08:37.42 | olafski | just take it off your bars again if you don't like where they put it |
| 08:38.22 | KriLL3 | well it happens every time you learn new abilities |
| 08:38.40 | KriLL3 | so it happens every 2 levels for quite a while when making a new char |
| 08:39.40 | olafski | still.. I assume they pick an empty spot for it, so how does that matter :< |
| 08:40.26 | CrazyBenny | atleast the new players will know their spells, or atleast the name will sound familiar when someone will be bitchslapping them in heroics, unlike some of those players that never heard of some of their class spells :P |
| 08:40.55 | olafski | :) |
| 08:41.04 | KriLL3 | yeah it's amazing how people reach 80 and don't know their own spells |
| 08:41.07 | olafski | I played with a guy who was using spells 2 ranks below what he should be yesterday |
| 08:41.10 | KriLL3 | had resto druids ask what innervate was |
| 08:41.24 | olafski | "that spell you've had since lvl 40" :P |
| 08:42.11 | CrazyBenny | yesterday I asked paladin to fear mobs in HoR and he said "Sorry I cant, I use macros" :S |
| 08:42.13 | asmodai | wtf |
| 08:42.38 | olafski | LOL |
| 08:43.09 | KriLL3 | CrazyBenny: errm, he just hits a cast sequence macro? |
| 08:43.17 | CrazyBenny | how can you use lower spell ranks anyway? its automatically updated on your bars when you use buy it |
| 08:43.20 | KriLL3 | did he play a hunter before? =P |
| 08:43.30 | KriLL3 | CrazyBenny: not if you use an outdated bar addon |
| 08:43.36 | CrazyBenny | ah |
| 08:43.37 | KriLL3 | or put it there on purpose |
| 08:43.48 | KriLL3 | some people still downrank "to save mana" |
| 08:43.59 | CrazyBenny | :D |
| 08:44.02 | olafski | not if you have dualspec either |
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| 08:45.15 | olafski | there are a couple of legitimate reasons to downrank |
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| 08:45.40 | olafski | but I think it mostly happens by accident due to dualspec |
| 08:46.22 | KriLL3 | olafski: errm, doesn't lower ranks cost the same amount to use and gives lower dmg/healing? |
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| 08:46.28 | KriLL3 | thus no reason to use it at all |
| 08:46.46 | nevcairiel | yeah they removed all reasons for downranking |
| 08:46.55 | mitch0 | the casttime, too? |
| 08:46.58 | nevcairiel | the only spell i can think of is banish with its shorter duration on low ranks |
| 08:47.30 | olafski | life tap |
| 08:47.36 | olafski | and banish :) |
| 08:48.37 | asmodai | banishes Fisker |
| 08:48.49 | Shefki | Wasn't there some Hunter spell that lost some secondary effect at lower levels? |
| 08:49.08 | Shefki | Healing Touch is also still shorter cast time at lower ranks. |
| 08:49.18 | Shefki | Though I've never found a good use for that. |
| 08:49.33 | KriLL3 | think the healing / mana doesn't stack up well with lower healing ranks |
| 08:49.35 | nevcairiel | since the mana cost is so extremly high in that case, its not useful |
| 08:49.39 | olafski | oh flamestrike too btw |
| 08:49.41 | Shefki | nevcairiel: And you can remove Banish now by recasting. |
| 08:49.52 | Shefki | KriLL3: It doesn't. |
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| 08:49.56 | nevcairiel | I thought that only worked for a short time and was fixed again? |
| 08:49.58 | nevcairiel | being a bug? |
| 08:50.01 | mitch0 | I used rank 1 frostbolt in pvp for the short casttime |
| 08:50.02 | olafski | yes shefki, but you could still just cast a lower rank to save yourself from recasting |
| 08:50.09 | KriLL3 | also there are other shorter healing spells you can use instead of lower rank HT |
| 08:50.13 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It was. But they put it back like with the last patch or the one before. |
| 08:50.15 | olafski | mitch0: I think they fixed that ;p |
| 08:50.19 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It was actually in the patch notes. |
| 08:50.29 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 08:50.30 | mitch0 | olafski: fixed that how? |
| 08:51.24 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 08:51.52 | olafski | mitch0: I think they made all ranks the same cast time |
| 08:52.10 | olafski | hm no they didn't it seems |
| 08:52.18 | olafski | Spell Mana Costs: These costs have been reduced for almost all lower level spell ranks. In general, if a spell decreased in cost with a higher level rank in patch 3.2.0, that spell now has the decreased cost at all ranks. In addition, spells learned before level 20 with reduced cast times and/or durations have even further reduced mana costs, proportionate to their reduction in cast time or damage. |
| 08:53.26 | olafski | downranking life tap seems like a good idea though if you have the glyph |
| 08:54.01 | nevcairiel | pre-level 20 spells are probably not really useful on 80 now |
| 08:54.47 | asmodai | I don't get Blizzard though, if they want to get rid off lower ranks of spells, just replace the bloody spell with the new one and don't allow people to use different ranks but the latest. There, problem solved. |
| 08:55.28 | nevcairiel | for buffs and HoTs, you cant always apply the highest version to every player |
| 08:55.38 | nevcairiel | so the game auto-downranks to use the appropriate version |
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| 08:55.55 | nevcairiel | like you cant apply a lvl 80 fortitude to a lvl 1 |
| 08:56.23 | asmodai | nevcairiel: The game handles that, perfect. Still no reason to let the user keep all their ranks but the latest :) |
| 08:56.41 | nevcairiel | would be rather confusing |
| 08:57.03 | olafski | asmodai: they'll do that in cataclysm ;) |
| 08:57.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Why? |
| 08:57.25 | asmodai | olafski: Oh did they announce that? |
| 08:57.28 | KriLL3 | weird that they got the "show all ranks" option |
| 08:57.46 | nevcairiel | they only do that when low ranks have no use at all |
| 08:57.46 | haste | certain classes want some lower ranks |
| 08:57.46 | KriLL3 | my brother runs around with that ticked on all his chars, don't ask me why |
| 08:57.51 | nevcairiel | like physical attacks |
| 08:57.54 | nevcairiel | where costs dont increase |
| 08:57.58 | nevcairiel | just dmg increases |
| 08:58.17 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r109 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:58.19 | Repo | - it should now properly skip those annoying greys that cant be sell to a vendor |
| 08:58.20 | Repo | - added '/sj add <item>' and '/sj rem <item>' to handle global exceptions faster than with UI |
| 08:58.54 | KriLL3 | CrazyBenny: do you really need add/remove? |
| 08:59.00 | KriLL3 | can't it just toggle? |
| 08:59.09 | KriLL3 | if it's in the list, remove it, if it's not, add it |
| 08:59.17 | KriLL3 | with the appropriate comment |
| 08:59.19 | asmodai | haste: Never needed it to be honest. |
| 08:59.39 | KriLL3 | nor I, but I'm feral, so I don't cast a lot of non physical spells anyway |
| 09:00.14 | olafski | asmodai: they said every spell will have one rank now and it will auto rank up or something |
| 09:00.21 | olafski | or maybe they said spells will just scale with level, I forgot |
| 09:00.40 | haste | asmodai: I know my priest needs it for low level buffing and my warlock needs it for life tap |
| 09:00.45 | CrazyBenny | KriLL3: nah, that would be rather confusing |
| 09:01.11 | CrazyBenny | and I would have to change more code for it :P |
| 09:01.43 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 09:01.53 | olafski | hey.. you're trying to steal my users crazybenny? :( |
| 09:02.00 | KriLL3 | just wish I didn't need bagsaver + sj |
| 09:02.02 | CrazyBenny | :o |
| 09:02.23 | KriLL3 | bagsaver does much of the same, but it also auto sells soulbound items you can't use etc |
| 09:02.28 | olafski | hm |
| 09:02.35 | KriLL3 | but you can't add filters to it to sell items you don't need |
| 09:02.41 | olafski | krill3: try AutoVendor :D |
| 09:02.42 | olafski | it has both |
| 09:02.43 | KriLL3 | like water on non casters etc |
| 09:03.28 | KriLL3 | olafski: I'll try it out |
| 09:03.48 | olafski | only literal lists though.. I have no option "sell water" or anything |
| 09:04.02 | KriLL3 | you mean you add items one by one? |
| 09:04.10 | KriLL3 | that's what you do in SJ anyway |
| 09:04.10 | olafski | yes |
| 09:04.14 | olafski | like in SJ yeah |
| 09:04.27 | olafski | well, I guess.. never tried that |
| 09:04.31 | KriLL3 | does it have the option to auto sell soulbound plate if you're not a plate user? |
| 09:04.34 | Repo | 10gridstatusrole: 03Greltok * r22 GridStatusRole.toc: Corrected version number. |
| 09:04.35 | olafski | yes |
| 09:04.53 | Repo | 10gridstatussanity: 03Greltok * r13 GridStatusSanity.toc: Corrected version number. |
| 09:04.58 | KriLL3 | does it have an option to auto sell cloth/leather that's soulbound if you're a plate user? |
| 09:05.01 | olafski | it won't sell plate if you're a warrior/pala though, even if you don't have the skill for it yet |
| 09:05.10 | CrazyBenny | good to know, now I have a place where to send people, that want those features :P |
| 09:05.10 | olafski | no, not that.. I kept it really relaxed in what it will sell |
| 09:05.12 | KriLL3 | olafski: that's good |
| 09:05.32 | olafski | it'll only sell stuff that you really can't ever use |
| 09:05.43 | olafski | (and greys, and items on your always_sell list) |
| 09:05.45 | KriLL3 | hmm well an option to sell non ideal items would be nice |
| 09:05.53 | KriLL3 | bagsaver has that option |
| 09:06.00 | olafski | yeah good idea, I'll add that in a future version I think :) |
| 09:06.09 | KriLL3 | cloth as a plater is a fairly safe bet |
| 09:06.11 | olafski | I won't make it intelligent though, that's just asking for trouble |
| 09:06.13 | KriLL3 | if not you can use buyback |
| 09:06.16 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 09:06.20 | KriLL3 | this one is dumb also |
| 09:06.30 | KriLL3 | which is fine |
| 09:06.31 | Repo | 10gridstatussanity: 03Greltok 041.0.5 * r14 : Tagging as 1.0.5 |
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| 09:06.36 | KriLL3 | hits 90% of the stuff I want to sell |
| 09:06.38 | olafski | e.g. won't try to analyze the stats and try to auto sell 1h dps weapons for paladins :) |
| 09:06.53 | Repo | 10gridstatusrole: 03Greltok 041.1.5 * r23 : Tagging as 1.1.5 |
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| 09:09.45 | asmodai | haste: mmm, maybe I just haven't encountered it. Then again, is this on characters you have played with for a long time (pre-wotlk and so on)? |
| 09:10.09 | asmodai | olafski: Auto-rank up makes a lot of sense in my book at least. |
| 09:11.13 | olafski | yeah |
| 09:11.15 | olafski | scaling even more tbh |
| 09:12.01 | olafski | so annoying for example as a hunter, when you reach level X6 that your pet becomes less and less effective at holding aggro, then at (X+1)0 you get a new rank of growl and all is fine again |
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| 09:14.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r7003 Options/author-list.lua: Properly generate author-list.lua. |
| 09:17.58 | haste | asmodai: warlocks use low rank life tap to enable their glyph pre-combat, without draining too much HP |
| 09:18.04 | gautam_c | hi, is that a upper limit on the size of a lua table in wow ? (i see that a table I am building in lua, is getting set to set to nil after it exceeds 187 kb) |
| 09:19.43 | Shefki | There is but I don't know the exact limitations. |
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| 09:40.27 | Arrowmaster | gautam_c: its large but you should be getting an error instead of the table being wiped |
| 09:44.28 | nevcairiel | it was about 70k keys or something |
| 09:44.31 | nevcairiel | or more? |
| 09:44.33 | nevcairiel | i dont remember :P |
| 09:44.45 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.0.1-14-gf0178e8 / (13 files in 3 directories): [+20 commits] (16 truncated) |
| 09:44.47 | nevcairiel | wowwiki has it somewhere |
| 09:44.47 | Repo | f0178e8: Added inspection info, you can disable it in /eg config. Currently this will show an overall summary of the player you are inspecting with tooltips to check specifics, or you can mouseover items and see exactly what is wrong (or right!) about them |
| 09:44.48 | Repo | d8f6686: Fixed totems that improve Riptide being identified as melee dps items, instead of healer |
| 09:44.50 | Repo | 2439df7: Party summary now shows average item level in colored form, because everyone likes colors |
| 09:44.51 | Repo | 77cc4a6: Added function for coloring by item level |
| 09:45.01 | Shadowed | 20 commits wheee |
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| 09:48.34 | TNSe | Shadowed :P |
| 09:48.51 | TNSe | Now start making some kinda like or not addon that uses global communication channels |
| 09:49.11 | Shadowed | I have no idea what you just said |
| 09:49.20 | TNSe | Lets say I group with a tank and I find him to be good |
| 09:49.23 | TNSe | so I rate him +1 |
| 09:49.25 | Shadowed | yea bad idea :p |
| 09:49.33 | TNSe | next time I join a party or raid, my ratings are transferred to others |
| 09:49.48 | Shadowed | EG already sort of does that, I just haven't expanded it yet |
| 09:49.52 | TNSe | and this way it networks out until massive breakdown of servers commence. |
| 09:50.08 | TNSe | okay |
| 09:50.13 | Shadowed | Trusting people to send accurate data ended poorly for gearscore :P |
| 09:50.14 | TNSe | I've always wanted something like that |
| 09:50.20 | CrazyBenny | I can see the trade chat already "WTB good ratings" :P |
| 09:50.22 | TNSe | well, thats the thing |
| 09:50.27 | Shadowed | You can't really trust any data people send, which is why nobody does it |
| 09:50.34 | TNSe | you can discard data that doesn't match |
| 09:50.45 | Shadowed | But that requires a lot of people to use it |
| 09:50.48 | TNSe | yes |
| 09:50.55 | TNSe | thats why I'd want such an addon :P |
| 09:50.55 | Shadowed | and what if somebody is sending false data on people without data |
| 09:51.00 | Shadowed | How do you figure out which is the "correct" one |
| 09:51.52 | Shadowed | One of the things I would like to do is let EG show your mains gear if you are playing an alt. But the main problem is trust |
| 09:52.03 | TNSe | yup |
| 09:52.03 | Shadowed | there's no way to verify that the main is really your main, or that your main is wearing the gear you say it is |
| 09:52.10 | TNSe | Thats more or less what I'd want |
| 09:52.14 | TNSe | some kind of way to rate your trust |
| 09:52.28 | TNSe | problem is how to propogate it |
| 09:52.32 | TNSe | without corrupt data |
| 09:52.54 | TNSe | I'm very interested in figuring out how to deal with it |
| 09:53.00 | TNSe | because the idea itself would be extremely helpful |
| 09:53.17 | TNSe | and yes CrazyBenny, I could see that happen |
| 09:53.31 | TNSe | But I'm more worried about people who make their own addons to corrupt data |
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| 09:54.09 | olafski | I still think blizzard should include some kind of karma system |
| 09:54.12 | olafski | that way everyone uses it |
| 09:54.20 | olafski | but we've discussed this at length already I guess |
| 09:54.21 | TNSe | yeah, karam/trust/skill ratibng |
| 09:54.40 | Fisker | they probably won't since it'll be open to teh abuse |
| 09:54.42 | CrazyBenny | I still dont see a point of those addons, you would use them for getting people in raid pugs, but if you do those each week, after lets say a month, you find out that you're basicly running with the same people again and again and by that tiem you have some blacklist of bad people :P |
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| 09:55.10 | olafski | I think they won't because bad players will cry their eyes out within a week |
| 09:55.53 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-15-g0dc9deb / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Ticket #360: Tooltip Toggle. |
| 09:57.07 | pompy | Shadowed: http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/elitist-group-blue-posts-comics/ |
| 09:57.32 | Shadowed | yea I saw |
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| 09:58.15 | Shadowed | TNSe: It definitely is an interesting problem to sort out, unfortunately it can't really be solved in a perfect manner |
| 10:02.22 | olafski | shadowed: in the second screenshot of that mmo-c post, what does the "V Shadow (trusted)" mean? (where V is a checkmark) |
| 10:02.30 | SunTsu | Shadowed: you prolly already know, but ElitistGroup is featured on MMO-Champion |
| 10:02.38 | olafski | is that the one who gave you the data? |
| 10:02.39 | Shadowed | SunTsu look up a few lines :p |
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| 10:02.43 | Shadowed | yea olafski |
| 10:02.44 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 10:02.49 | Fisker | ElitistGroup is on mmo-champion |
| 10:02.52 | Shadowed | really |
| 10:02.57 | Shadowed | That comes back to the trusted stuff olafski |
| 10:02.57 | Fisker | yes really! |
| 10:02.58 | KriLL3 | yrly |
| 10:03.12 | olafski | looks like a nice addon |
| 10:03.15 | olafski | I'll give it a go :) |
| 10:03.25 | Shadowed | You don't really see it right now since other people aren't using it as much, but people can send their gear to you |
| 10:03.30 | Shadowed | and if they do, it'll flag it as untrusted |
| 10:03.43 | Shadowed | It's mostly just a visual way of saying "Hey, this data should be accurate, but it's possibly not" |
| 10:03.57 | nevcairiel | and trusted is when you inspected him yourself, eh? |
| 10:04.01 | Shadowed | yea |
| 10:04.14 | robotusch | :| |
| 10:04.18 | Shadowed | I'll probably expand it a bit more and make it so people like guildies or friends list are trusted |
| 10:04.23 | Fisker | robotusch |
| 10:04.37 | robotusch | my enhancement shaman has 5 times the spellpower the oomkin in our UK group has |
| 10:05.30 | nevcairiel | why do you gear your enhancement for spellpower anyway? thats just weird! |
| 10:05.31 | SunTsu | robotusch: look on the bright side - that moonkin won't pull aggro off the tank |
| 10:05.41 | koaschten | because it works nevcairiel ;) |
| 10:05.42 | robotusch | oh u, Nev |
| 10:05.52 | olafski | what do the skulls in the experience part mean? ;) |
| 10:05.54 | Bibi- | Shadowed |
| 10:05.57 | Bibi- | not sure if you noticed |
| 10:05.58 | robotusch | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silvermoon&n=Yumidruid |
| 10:06.01 | Bibi- | but elitistgroup is on mmo-champion |
| 10:06.07 | Shadowed | what mmoc is for bads |
| 10:06.10 | Shadowed | I want to be featured on WoR |
| 10:06.21 | koaschten | btw... screw versatel, i filed like 7 connection issues since last summer but only today i get a SMS saying they will replace my modem because the cant reach it from their side... |
| 10:06.28 | olafski | doh.. nm :< |
| 10:06.34 | Shadowed | also people who can't read |
| 10:06.36 | Shadowed | which is hilarious |
| 10:06.39 | Bibi- | that's the idea Shadowed |
| 10:06.46 | Bibi- | bad addons for bad players. |
| 10:06.51 | Shadowed | touche |
| 10:06.59 | Fisker | we all know that Shadowed begged Bibi- for addon spotlight |
| 10:07.01 | Shadowed | But bad players are naturally attracted to a bad site |
| 10:09.03 | koaschten | hmm i guess i should be concerned if my netstat shows ten open connections and some are routed via china-tel.level3.net no? ^^ |
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| 10:10.54 | nevcairiel | you can always see which process is attached to that connection |
| 10:11.33 | koaschten | i forgot to add the flag and by now they arnt shown anymore |
| 10:11.44 | nevcairiel | he |
| 10:11.47 | nevcairiel | +h |
| 10:11.53 | SunTsu | hhe? |
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| 10:13.41 | koaschten | 60.12.231.243 + 247 and 218.94.124.44 |
| 10:13.43 | koaschten | hmm hmmms |
| 10:15.23 | koaschten | the pid isn't shown in the taskmanager?! |
| 10:16.15 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.0.1-15-geb6090a ElitistGroup.lua: [+1 commit] Tweaked defaults, the summary info in inspection is disabled by default, tooltip info is enabled by default still |
| 10:17.09 | koaschten | btw Shadowed, is it EG fault that i get a "you are not in a guild" message when toggling the char info screen? if i recall correctly eg is the only mod i added since that is happening to me. |
| 10:17.35 | Shadowed | Character info screen as in |
| 10:17.35 | olafski | several addons do that I think |
| 10:17.38 | Shadowed | /eg or the player frame? |
| 10:17.46 | koaschten | i hit c |
| 10:17.49 | Shadowed | not EG |
| 10:18.05 | Shadowed | EG checks if you are in a guild and the only time it sends guild comms are joining an instance if notes are set to auto request |
| 10:20.09 | Shadowed | I have come to the conclusion that Germans have a wacky language |
| 10:21.16 | asmodai | koaschten: I disabled EG and it was not EG. |
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| 10:21.28 | koaschten | hmm |
| 10:21.29 | asmodai | koaschten: Still trying to figure out which bloody addon is causing it as it is getting annoying by now. |
| 10:22.31 | asmodai | just didn't feel like a binary search on my 60+ addons yet. |
| 10:23.04 | koaschten | pff sissy, i once did that with my 80+ to diagnose disconnects on beasts when icehowl stomps |
| 10:23.09 | koaschten | trust me, that one wasn't fun |
| 10:23.24 | Kalroth | I get the message a lot and I don't have EG installed, so :p |
| 10:23.32 | profalbert | koaschten: which addon was causing that? |
| 10:23.49 | Kalroth | "you are not in a guild" and also "you are not in a party" |
| 10:24.38 | koaschten | old version of utopia |
| 10:25.40 | profalbert | asmodai: you could look at the code from http://www.wowace.com/addons/youarentinapartyfix/ and look for messages to the guild-channel |
| 10:26.28 | asmodai | koaschten: I said I didn't feel like it yet, will do it though. :) |
| 10:26.35 | asmodai | hugs addon bugs relentlessly |
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| 10:30.53 | CrazyBenny | I get "you are not in a guild" everytime I logout, but yet when I see it early in the morning I log back to see if its true :P |
| 10:31.11 | CrazyBenny | getting annoying lately, but cba to look for it |
| 10:31.38 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.0.1-16-g3f645e6 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fixed non-caster Alchemist Stone's being flagged as caster items |
| 10:32.07 | Shadowed | so much easier to do this when I can check against 900 items and 300 gems/enchants |
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| 10:34.18 | asmodai | Shadowed: oh btw |
| 10:34.55 | asmodai | Shadowed: it's funny to look at EG when you are < level 60/70/80 since it says I can do certain instances as a level 10 (marking them all green), hehehe |
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| 10:37.47 | profalbert | is there an addon, that allows to change the texture on nameplates? |
| 10:39.06 | Shadowed | asmodai: mmm, it shouldn't |
| 10:39.36 | Shadowed | ilvl difference of 30 should result in it being colored red |
| 10:41.51 | Fisker | it's late Antiarc |
| 10:43.44 | asmodai | Shadowed: oh, odd, showed up as green for me |
| 10:43.53 | asmodai | Shadowed: haven't checked with the latest I saw in CC this morning |
| 10:45.38 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7004 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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| 10:59.27 | asmodai | profalbert: something like this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/164238/ |
| 10:59.43 | asmodai | made some educated guesses |
| 11:00.46 | profalbert | something like that I guess, yeah |
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| 11:02.39 | Fisker | slaps profalbert around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:13.12 | orionshock | i am finding myself wanting to branch chocolatebar off |
| 11:13.47 | orionshock | make it more sane in handling LDB specs |
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| 11:22.29 | asmodai | I need to hunt down Borlox |
| 11:22.39 | asmodai | And get some stuff fixed with Fortress |
| 11:23.14 | asmodai | heh, Funcom going to delete characters that are inactive and below level 20 |
| 11:24.09 | koaschten | http://12.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw2ed48H4j1qzdfa9o1_500.png |
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| 11:27.13 | yoshimo | i like my Bazooka |
| 11:33.37 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r306 / (3 files in 1 directory): Get Range information from the API. |
| 11:33.39 | Repo | Remove LibGratuity-3.0 from dependencies. |
| 11:36.17 | orionshock | LDB it's a love-hate relationship |
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| 11:36.56 | orionshock | you love it because it's flexible, you hate it because no one can agree on how to make it work. |
| 11:37.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7005 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:37.04 | Repo | Citadel/Putricide: Change the bouncing goo ball warning to display targets |
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| 11:42.17 | asmodai | rofl |
| 11:42.30 | asmodai | Shadowed: you got featured |
| 11:42.55 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 11:43.01 | Fisker | your addon is featured on mmo-champion |
| 11:43.04 | asmodai | Shadowed: Bibi- put you up on mmoc |
| 11:43.13 | asmodai | slaps Fisker |
| 11:43.23 | Bibi- | Shadow00Caster: heard your addon is on mmo-champion |
| 11:43.40 | asmodai | Bibi-: heh |
| 11:43.45 | Bibi- | damn. |
| 11:43.48 | Bibi- | stupid tab. |
| 11:44.00 | asmodai | expects downloads and tickets to increase now ;) |
| 11:44.04 | Kalroth | more like stupid names |
| 11:44.34 | profalbert | no stupid tab, mine does not auto-complete when there are more candidates |
| 11:45.03 | profalbert | working like bash-completion rather than windows-cmd-completion |
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| 11:46.13 | asmodai | oh he knows |
| 11:46.19 | asmodai | he already posted in the comment thread |
| 11:46.34 | asmodai | irssi++ |
| 11:47.10 | Kalroth | that name is stupid regardless of tab completion or not, profalbert! |
| 11:47.19 | Megalon | why isn't gearscore featured? :< |
| 11:48.13 | Fisker | please kill me Megalon |
| 11:48.30 | asmodai | Megalon: Oblige him, please. |
| 11:50.08 | Fisker | nice |
| 11:50.16 | Fisker | got locked out of PoS because some retard group |
| 11:51.37 | Fisker | elitistgroup need an ignore feature for shit like that |
| 11:53.13 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 11:53.17 | Kalroth | fiskered! |
| 11:53.24 | asmodai | EG needs a ignore Fisker if he is in your party builtin |
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| 11:53.51 | Fisker | yes |
| 11:55.42 | Fisker | But get this: The tank starts out DC'ing at the start of the instance, at that time some priest pulled, and i couldn't MD to the tank as he had just gone offline, the tank then proceeds to login again and say he needs to relog, which takes like 5 minutes, the first boss goes ok, then he decides to skip 2-3 trash pulls by jumping into the pit. |
| 11:56.37 | asmodai | I have a thorough traumatized experience with jumps as shortcuts in WoW that I hate it in instances. |
| 11:56.48 | Kalroth | which instance? Gundrak? |
| 11:56.49 | asmodai | Almost all those 'shortcuts' ended up in shitters. |
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| 11:57.08 | asmodai | Kalroth: Fisker was doing PoS I think? |
| 11:57.19 | Fisker | 3 people die from that including the tank and healer (i.e. resser), so they corpse run and try once more, we get up to the second boss where he decides to pull the boss with adds on him, which he also ignore so that hunters and rogue pull aggro on a single multishot, etc. then we wipe and the group almost disbands, we get some more people and do the second boss, then he pulls 2 packs after the second boss |
| 11:57.26 | Fisker | yeah pit of saron |
| 11:57.41 | Fisker | And a rogue was running around freeing slaves |
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| 11:57.51 | Fisker | and then everyone leave |
| 11:57.53 | Kalroth | oh, PoS is simply to stay on the right side, then you only have to deal with like 4 trash pulls until the first boss |
| 11:57.57 | Wobin | soo why didn't you votekick =P |
| 11:58.07 | Fisker | tried Wobin |
| 11:58.13 | Fisker | except me of course, but the group gets disbanded and i can't queue up for it again |
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| 11:58.58 | Kalroth | You're too terrible for LFG instances, Fisker |
| 11:59.05 | Fisker | naw |
| 11:59.10 | Wobin | You wouldn't LFD, Fisker |
| 11:59.34 | Fisker | i need gear |
| 11:59.48 | Fisker | i can push like 6500k dps |
| 11:59.50 | Fisker | err |
| 11:59.54 | Fisker | 6500 dps :P |
| 11:59.59 | Wobin | You wouldn't =( |
| 11:59.59 | asmodai | Wobin: rofl |
| 12:00.15 | Fisker | But since i don't have [Epic] or [Random instance achievement] then that's not enough |
| 12:04.10 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=%C3%90%C3%A3%C3%B0%C3%B1%C3%B0%C3%B4%C3%AC%C3%AD%C3%AC <-this guy is NOT being invited to any groups |
| 12:04.10 | Fisker | :P |
| 12:04.32 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r92 Ailo.lua: Add a quadrillion nil-checks |
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| 12:07.34 | Megalon | there are 8 reasons in the name alone |
| 12:07.40 | Megalon | why you shouldn't invite him |
| 12:09.41 | Fisker | exactly |
| 12:09.46 | CrazyBenny | it would be so nice, if people couldnt use diacritics in their names :S |
| 12:10.14 | profalbert | why did they forbid cyrillic stuff again? |
| 12:11.00 | profalbert | There are 9 reasons in the name ;) |
| 12:11.42 | Megalon | oh, 3 i's, thought there was a 'n' in there |
| 12:14.46 | profalbert | But there were more characters in available in UTF-8, but knowing how to type 9 of them is amazing enough |
| 12:15.56 | Repo | 10knameplates: 03kandarz * r18 kNamePlates.lua: Bug Fixes |
| 12:18.49 | Repo | 10knameplates: 03kandarz 04r19-release * r19 : Created tag r19-release. |
| 12:20.16 | Fisker | haha |
| 12:20.23 | Fisker | iphone users really are grasping at straws now |
| 12:20.26 | Fisker | http://daggle.com/impression-wrong-android-nice-iphone-1607 |
| 12:21.45 | yoshimo | if an interfaceaction failed because of an addon, or whatever the message is called in english, is that somewhere in the wow logfiles, or do i have to activate /taintlog? |
| 12:24.13 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: you have to not filter ADDON_BLOCKED events |
| 12:24.24 | Gnarfoz | (which for example BugSack does for you) |
| 12:25.56 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: "that iPhone on the right", of course |
| 12:26.34 | Fisker | :3? |
| 12:26.36 | phyber | written from the view of being under the desk they're on, i think. |
| 12:26.50 | Fisker | oh lol Gnarfoz |
| 12:27.29 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r138 / (15 files in 11 directories): Data Update (no reputation yet) |
| 12:27.31 | Repo | Change up the updater using new Wowhead data stream |
| 12:27.32 | Repo | Include sqlite database (includes reputation) |
| 12:28.15 | yoshimo | kandarz , what did it use before then? |
| 12:28.22 | kandarz | mysql |
| 12:28.43 | kandarz | or you mean what wowhead urls? |
| 12:28.47 | yoshimo | i mean the fist line "new wowhead data stream" |
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| 12:30.02 | kandarz | I first scan the localization JS file for the code to build the quest menu, then I went to each category page: http://www.wowhead.com/?quests=0.36 to parse out the JS from that |
| 12:31.10 | kandarz | Well, I'd give you the new url, but it's blank now :/ |
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| 12:32.06 | kandarz | hrm, it was.. anyway, I use http://www.wowhead.com/?data=quests now |
| 12:35.09 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03tatechen * r266 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: zhTW update for 3.3 Icecrown Citadel |
| 12:39.20 | asmodai | kandarz: How can I best help you with EQ? :) |
| 12:40.46 | kandarz | write a script to take contents of emailed attachments or just the message text, parse it for the unknowns and plop it into a database :) |
| 12:43.29 | asmodai | I can do that |
| 12:44.27 | asmodai | btw, anyone using Rawr? If so, where the heck is the export for relative stat values to use for in Pawn? |
| 12:44.50 | Gnarfoz | why would there be one |
| 12:45.00 | Yivry | Rawr is too complicated :P |
| 12:45.03 | Gnarfoz | you'd have to update that as soon as you change 1 piece of gear |
| 12:45.54 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: yes, but there apparently is an option for it and apparently I am blind in not finding it. |
| 12:46.12 | asmodai | kandarz: Those numbers in the lua file under "unknowns", quest ids? |
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| 12:47.17 | kandarz | asmodai: I wasn't actually being serious, the most useful thing would be to just scrap the emailed things and just start over using a web interface: http://wow.kandarz.com/everyquest/upload.html |
| 12:47.26 | kandarz | yes, they are quest ID's |
| 12:48.02 | asmodai | kandarz: hahaha, you already have one :) |
| 12:48.09 | kandarz | It doesn't work |
| 12:48.11 | asmodai | And lovely Sphinx reuse ;) |
| 12:48.20 | kandarz | I like the simpleness |
| 12:48.44 | asmodai | Yeah, Georg's design really got replicated like crazy thanks to Sphinx |
| 12:48.59 | kandarz | I didn't want to think too hard about creating a style |
| 12:49.02 | yoshimo | nice photo kandarz ;) |
| 12:49.03 | asmodai | kandarz: Any why ain't it working? |
| 12:49.42 | kandarz | because the contents of upload.php is: <?php require("bootstrap.php"); $conn = Doctrine_Manager::connection('sqlite://quests.sqlite'); ?> |
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| 12:49.56 | asmodai | eek, doctrine |
| 12:50.15 | kandarz | yeah, I didn't do anything with it |
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| 12:51.04 | asmodai | kandarz: So there's no logic behind it or am I misunderstanding you? |
| 12:51.55 | kandarz | well, yes, all I did was load doctrine and then I probably went to sleep and forgot about it |
| 12:52.26 | yoshimo | stack overflow in wim :D |
| 12:52.40 | asmodai | Ah, found it in Rawr. |
| 12:52.43 | yoshimo | i really should trim my history ;) |
| 12:52.46 | asmodai | Jeez, that was non intuitive. |
| 12:53.04 | asmodai | kandarz: heh, but planning on expanding it? |
| 12:53.21 | Gnarfoz | not sure why you're doing what you're doing there. evaluate upgrades in Rawr if you have Rawr *shrug* |
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| 12:54.04 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: It's more for leveling purposes that I am looking at something :) |
| 12:54.33 | kandarz | I am, the plan was to be able to cron job the update, push the changes to svn. Kind of like GatherMate_Data |
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| 12:55.45 | asmodai | kandarz: Well, if you need any help, let me know. |
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| 13:08.15 | Elkano | anyone in here good with compiling under windows using mingw? |
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| 13:10.46 | Elkano | got a problem with leading underscores in function references (or their absence) |
| 13:11.05 | asmodai | mmm, only so so |
| 13:15.18 | asmodai | Bibi-: colleague of mine just mentions that the rumour mill has it that Cataclysm alpha is starting, heard similar? |
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| 13:15.52 | yoshimo | why should it asmodai? probably a new scam ;) |
| 13:16.19 | asmodai | Yeah, people love dropping such things. |
| 13:16.46 | asmodai | But Bibi- at least tends to hear things to easily disregard stuff like that :) |
| 13:16.53 | Fisker | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:16.57 | Elkano | well, even if alpha is starting, one shouldn't expect to get in, especially not if one is just a regular addon coder or even a gamer, only |
| 13:17.22 | asmodai | Elkano: Oh, wasn't even anticipating that. Not even beta, hahaha. |
| 13:17.27 | asmodai | Just curious, basically. |
| 13:17.39 | Gnarfoz | didn't they say they discontinued the F&F program anyway? |
| 13:17.52 | Gnarfoz | or am I confusing that with the "Friend of Blizzard" program |
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| 13:18.22 | Gnarfoz | also, for the lulz: http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=139261 |
| 13:18.36 | asmodai | F&F? |
| 13:18.48 | asmodai | rofl |
| 13:19.37 | asmodai | Well, that would answer it. |
| 13:19.40 | asmodai | Bibi-: disregard :P |
| 13:22.15 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: http://www.wow.com/2010/01/09/cataclysm-friends-and-family-alpha-to-begin-tuesday/ |
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| 13:22.48 | yoshimo | f&f , we use that for people not actually raiding, but in the gild because they are "family &friends" |
| 13:23.02 | asmodai | Sounds odd they'd do disc all of a sudden. |
| 13:24.01 | nevcairiel | probably dont want the download leaked again |
| 13:24.08 | asmodai | also a possibility |
| 13:25.10 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo:that's what that usually stands for, yeah |
| 13:25.55 | yoshimo | i remember the alpha client in classic times which was sandboxed before the game entered beta |
| 13:26.57 | nevcairiel | just remember that the alpha is under a NDA usually, so dont expect too much infos =p |
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| 13:29.10 | CrazyBenny | we got quite a lot of info from wotlk alpha, so I wouldnt expect anything different :P |
| 13:29.10 | asmodai | but but |
| 13:29.16 | asmodai | info wants to be freeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 13:29.38 | CrazyBenny | or was it closed beta? *shrug* |
| 13:30.44 | CrazyBenny | they should start feeding us with atleast some bits of info tho... |
| 13:31.15 | asmodai | It would suck if we have to wait until Christmas :( |
| 13:31.22 | asmodai | 'fore release |
| 13:31.45 | nevcairiel | the timing looks like at least september/oct |
| 13:31.53 | nevcairiel | judging from typical alpha/beta times |
| 13:32.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I feard as much :( |
| 13:32.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7006 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Citadel/Putricide: Fix bouncing goo ball |
| 13:32.49 | nevcairiel | but then i dont know how much is done by now |
| 13:32.58 | nevcairiel | maybe they could make it for august |
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| 13:34.24 | asmodai | I still wonder what it means for all these quests. I wonder how much will be rewritten. |
| 13:34.32 | Adirelle|work | hello there |
| 13:35.03 | asmodai | hey adir |
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| 13:45.57 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r7007 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Putricide: Fix error. koKR Update |
| 13:46.28 | Groktar | pounces asmodai |
| 13:46.46 | Groktar | nibbles on asmodai's soul |
| 13:46.54 | asmodai | had none to begin with |
| 13:47.00 | asmodai | Groktar: btw, fisker claimed he left your closet! |
| 13:47.07 | Groktar | WHAT |
| 13:48.11 | asmodai | yup |
| 13:48.16 | asmodai | Claimed that, he did. |
| 13:48.47 | Groktar | can't trust anything he says |
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| 13:52.26 | Fisker | nibbles on Groktar |
| 13:55.24 | Groktar | s3x0rs Fisker |
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| 14:04.00 | asmodai | wonders which will be released sooner: Diablo 3 or Half Life 2: Episode 3 |
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| 14:06.07 | Fisker | Diablo 3 |
| 14:06.26 | pentium166 | left 4 dead 3 |
| 14:06.30 | sb|work | nevcairiel: uhm, last f&f was may - so it should be more like july/august |
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| 14:10.17 | Fisker | why are we discussing alphas sb|work ? |
| 14:10.27 | sb|work | because you suck |
| 14:10.32 | sb|work | :( |
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| 14:15.08 | Adirelle|work | sons of *$?, got kicked from a PUG by 4 members of the same guild just before the last boss |
| 14:16.05 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:16.16 | Groktar | i've wanted to do that to some people before |
| 14:16.22 | Groktar | but usually we go too fast |
| 14:17.24 | sb|work | yea like 800 (!) dps hunteres (incl. pet) with greens and heirlooms... |
| 14:20.25 | SunTsu | sb|work: the best thing was a hunter with 300 dps. "Hey, I did better in blues and greens in Karazhan!" "Well, this isn't Karazhan, this is only a heroic!" |
| 14:20.50 | sb|work | 300 is like auto-melee-hit? |
| 14:21.28 | SunTsu | I think you do better with autoshot alone |
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| 14:22.23 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r93 Ailo.lua: |
| 14:22.25 | Repo | Swtich from LFG_COMPLETION_REWARD to LFG_UPDATE_RANDOM_INFO, as GetLFGDungeonRewards(262) does not update when you complete a random heroic, but rather when you open the dungeon finder again |
| 14:22.26 | Repo | Show characters in the tooltip if they are saved to an instance or showDailyHeroic is set |
| 14:23.42 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03AnarkiQ3 * r7008 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 14:26.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r7009 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: Citadel/Locales/frFR: Fix a french string. |
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| 14:29.53 | Adirelle|work | I was second on dpsmeter with 3,5kdps overall and I didn't rolled anything because I was there just for the emblems |
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| 14:35.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03AnarkiQ3 * r7010 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: more ruRU updates |
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| 14:39.33 | steev_ | Adirelle|work: ouch |
| 14:40.52 | steev_ | luckily, i've never been kicked from a group before |
| 14:41.20 | steev_ | i did leave that FoS group that i talked about earlier after apologizing to the other dps |
| 14:43.29 | Kalroth | I left a HoR group after I saw the tank having 19k in bear form |
| 14:44.03 | Kalroth | I did say "internet .. *bzzt* .. unstable, must .. *bZZZT* .. cannot" and then I clicked teleport out |
| 14:45.22 | asmodai | heh |
| 14:45.53 | [Ammo] | I've been known to DI the tank and leave :p |
| 14:46.03 | [Ammo] | tank is my buddy |
| 14:46.10 | [Ammo] | healer + tank = instantgroups |
| 14:46.16 | steev_ | truth |
| 14:46.24 | [Ammo] | the dps was giving us shit |
| 14:46.30 | [Ammo] | so we left them with a repairbill |
| 14:47.13 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox * r94 Ailo.lua: |
| 14:47.15 | Repo | Listen to LFG_COMPLETION_REWARD and RequestLFDPlayerLockInfo() to get LFG_UPDATE_RANDOM_INFO to fire. |
| 14:47.16 | Repo | Now daily heroic tracking should update on dungeon completion. |
| 14:47.22 | [Ammo] | pala + pala team, always someone with DI ready ;) |
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| 14:50.04 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Heh, meanie |
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| 14:50.47 | krka | mean Kalroth, i think i have 19k in bear form! |
| 14:50.54 | krka | hmm, or maybe 24k |
| 14:51.04 | krka | 21k in cat form atleast |
| 14:51.06 | [Ammo] | asmodai: some of them deserve it |
| 14:51.15 | Kalroth | krka: yes you shouldn't be in HoR either |
| 14:51.25 | Xtek | Mornin' |
| 14:51.28 | krka | actually, i can't get into HoR on randoms |
| 14:51.32 | krka | too low gear |
| 14:51.38 | krka | but i still have more than 19k as bear |
| 14:51.59 | krka | even with dps gear |
| 14:51.59 | krka | how did your tank manage to get in? using epic heal gear? |
| 14:52.43 | Kalroth | I dont know, I wasn't the first healer to try and heal them, they were wipe recovering when I joined |
| 14:53.16 | Kalroth | they zoned in, I healed them, I looked at his health, tried to heal him up to 30k, but with no luck |
| 14:53.33 | krka | can't heal up to 30 if maxhealth is 19! |
| 14:53.48 | Kalroth | I know, I thought my UF was showing a bad number |
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| 14:54.59 | arkanes | I had a tank freak out on my healers gear and leave |
| 14:55.08 | arkanes | because he thought he'd queued for heroic when he was actually in reg :\ |
| 14:55.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r2793 RecipeDB/Engineering.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:55.17 | Repo | - Removed specialization from Engineering Pets |
| 14:55.18 | krka | heh |
| 14:55.49 | asmodai | arkanes: heh |
| 14:56.24 | krka | i'll join a heroic in wildheart sometime |
| 14:56.26 | krka | see what people say |
| 14:57.31 | olafski | maybe the 19k tank hadn't equipped his proper gear yet? :< |
| 14:57.43 | olafski | unlikely though yeah |
| 15:02.22 | krka | not really, i run around with my lance all the time |
| 15:02.29 | krka | or my healing gear |
| 15:02.36 | Megalon | krka: you kinky bastard |
| 15:02.46 | krka | hard to see the gear when shapeshifted |
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| 15:11.09 | Groktar | i just discovered quickauctions |
| 15:11.23 | Groktar | omg |
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| 15:17.48 | asmodai | Groktar: :) |
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| 15:18.12 | CrazyBenny | hehe, it almost feels liek cheating, doesnt it :P |
| 15:18.19 | Groktar | yeah |
| 15:18.59 | Groktar | i was manually doing glyphs once a day from 3.0 up until ulduar |
| 15:19.09 | Groktar | and then i finally got sick of it |
| 15:19.19 | Groktar | i don't know what i was thinking |
| 15:19.40 | CrazyBenny | yeah, I started the glyph bussiness again with this |
| 15:20.18 | Groktar | also helps being able to clear out your bags completely |
| 15:20.24 | Groktar | and equip 4 inscription bags |
| 15:20.31 | krka | better than auctioneer? |
| 15:20.41 | Groktar | oh god yes |
| 15:20.42 | krka | auctioneer seemed simple enough |
| 15:20.53 | Groktar | this makes the glyphs for me! |
| 15:20.53 | krka | just drag glyphs to slot and click ok |
| 15:20.54 | CrazyBenny | this is bit different |
| 15:21.04 | Groktar | and automatically posts them all |
| 15:21.05 | CrazyBenny | here you just click ok :P |
| 15:21.09 | krka | meh, glyph maker isn't even same character as my bankalt |
| 15:21.28 | Groktar | well, it great for both |
| 15:23.14 | Groktar | there's no way to create all the glyphs automatically, right? |
| 15:23.18 | Groktar | i have to click from the list |
| 15:24.01 | krka | i just want a better scroll window for my glyphs |
| 15:24.14 | krka | i have like 1000 glyphs, and a scroll list that only shows like 8 entries at a time |
| 15:24.17 | krka | :( |
| 15:24.20 | Groktar | ok, here's how you use quickauctions to make glyphs |
| 15:24.22 | krka | also, no way to sort by level |
| 15:24.24 | Repo | 10magicians-sorcerers (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:24.25 | krka | :( |
| 15:24.25 | Repo | - Servers now only show once (even if they respond both for party/raid and guild |
| 15:24.26 | Repo | - Spam-clicking the "End turn" button no longer allows the player to skip phases of the enemy turn. |
| 15:24.28 | Groktar | you scan the glyphs |
| 15:24.31 | Groktar | in ah |
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| 15:24.47 | Groktar | a window pops up that shows you each glyph and how much it's going for |
| 15:24.56 | Groktar | you click on each one to set how many you want to make |
| 15:25.05 | Groktar | then you open up inscription |
| 15:25.09 | Groktar | and you click on the list |
| 15:25.12 | Groktar | and it maek glyph |
| 15:25.24 | asmodai | maek, rofl |
| 15:25.28 | Groktar | and then you click post |
| 15:25.34 | asmodai | That just fit well |
| 15:25.36 | Groktar | and it maek auction, undercutting by the amount you set |
| 15:25.47 | Groktar | intentional typo asmodai |
| 15:26.21 | Xtek | Intentional incorrectness is the best kind. |
| 15:27.16 | Ackis | incorrects Xtek's face! |
| 15:27.26 | Xtek | Silence Canadian! |
| 15:27.31 | Groktar | i'm wetting my pants watching it post |
| 15:27.37 | Groktar | it's just crazu |
| 15:27.40 | Groktar | *crazy |
| 15:27.47 | Ackis | eh? |
| 15:27.52 | Ackis | Xtek: did you try out STO? |
| 15:28.12 | Xtek | Nah, first weekend since I was on Christmas vacation a lot of around-the-house stuff to do. |
| 15:28.24 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:28.30 | Xtek | It any good? |
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| 15:29.23 | Ackis | I enjoyed it actually, space battle gave me a huge hard on |
| 15:29.43 | Ackis | ground battle, not my cup of tea tbh |
| 15:30.09 | Groktar | heh, as of last night we have no raiding resto druids |
| 15:32.29 | Groktar | gm gkicked them all |
| 15:32.31 | Groktar | :p |
| 15:32.49 | Ackis | druids suck |
| 15:32.56 | Kalroth | haha |
| 15:33.21 | Kaelten | how goes guys |
| 15:33.35 | Repo | 10broker_wintergrasper: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.3.1-2-g9990e16 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 15:33.37 | Repo | 9990e16: toc update |
| 15:33.38 | Repo | dc52aab: localisations update |
| 15:33.54 | Ackis | hai mr Kaelten |
| 15:34.00 | Ackis | wud u like coffee? |
| 15:34.32 | Kaelten | :P |
| 15:34.55 | Ackis | i has some homemade hot coffee 4 u! |
| 15:35.28 | Kaelten | sorry you're not my type |
| 15:35.38 | Ackis | heh |
| 15:35.53 | Ackis | fuck the "YOU JUST POSTED THAT" /grrr |
| 15:36.09 | Fisker | hello |
| 15:36.21 | Ackis | hi Fisker |
| 15:36.27 | Groktar | when quickauctions cancels auctions, does it only cancel ones that are in item groups? |
| 15:36.45 | Groktar | because i'm clearly undercut on Bold Cardinal Ruby but it doesn't seem to notice |
| 15:37.08 | Silowyi | so mmo champion picked up on this addon called Elitist Group... how does this compare to the SexyGroup project Shadowed has been working on? |
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| 15:39.08 | Silowyi | ah |
| 15:39.10 | Silowyi | same thing |
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| 15:39.20 | Silowyi | apparently shadowed renamed the project when I wasn't looking :P |
| 15:39.56 | Xtek | Ackis, and you don't even offer me any? |
| 15:39.58 | Xtek | =( |
| 15:40.26 | Xtek | And I agree, Druids are meh... finishing my Resto Shaman now. |
| 15:40.32 | Kalroth | Silowyi: They renamed it because they were getting some funky google results when searching for 'sexy group' |
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| 15:40.52 | Ackis | Xtek: Kaelten needs it! :D |
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| 15:45.33 | Xtek | Ackis, as do I. |
| 15:45.38 | Xtek | I, I have needs too. |
| 15:45.58 | Ackis | o rly? |
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| 15:47.45 | CrazyBenny | Groktar: yes it is, also if your items are undercut by items with price lower, than you've set for it it will not cancel them I think |
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| 15:50.07 | sb|work | Shadowed: are you going to implement some sort of "scoring" in eg? (more than pure itemlevel) |
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| 15:51.51 | sb|work | Shadowed: semi-intelligent rules, e.g. mage/caster < 16%-18% > is fail and results in lower score |
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| 15:51.55 | sb|work | etc.. |
| 15:53.21 | haste | that made no sense! |
| 15:53.26 | haste | 16-18% of what :p ? |
| 15:55.28 | KaeltenAw | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1263223044460.jpg [SFW] |
| 15:56.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:57.03 | sb|work | uh |
| 15:57.06 | sb|work | spell-hit :) |
| 15:57.10 | Fisker | racism isn't safe for work here |
| 15:57.10 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 15:57.20 | sb|work | haste: spell hit! :p |
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| 15:58.47 | Fisker | so it was you Shadow00Caster |
| 15:58.48 | Fisker | damnit |
| 15:58.52 | Fisker | so it was you Shadowed |
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| 16:00.01 | evl | Anyone got a paladin leveling build handy? Couldn't Google up anything but shit |
| 16:00.07 | evl | *old shit |
| 16:00.15 | onaforeignshore | level retri |
| 16:00.55 | onaforeignshore | or like they're called in my guild - retardins |
| 16:01.03 | evl | start off with divine str or right into retri? |
| 16:01.10 | sb|work | retri :p |
| 16:01.25 | sb|work | get SoC fast |
| 16:01.28 | onaforeignshore | str for bigger oomph |
| 16:01.34 | onaforeignshore | then retri |
| 16:01.37 | onaforeignshore | imho |
| 16:01.42 | Fisker | you'll be bored out of your skull for the first 40-50 levels |
| 16:01.46 | Fisker | doesn't matter how you spec |
| 16:01.52 | onaforeignshore | definitely |
| 16:02.03 | arkanes | soc + glyph will make your first set of levels merely horrible, rather than actively suicide inducing |
| 16:02.19 | arkanes | 15% extra strength when you only have like 20 anyway ain't such a big deal |
| 16:02.20 | onaforeignshore | still better than leveling as healadin (which I did on my very first character) |
| 16:02.35 | Fisker | then you're just asking for onaforeignshore |
| 16:02.43 | Fisker | for it* |
| 16:02.57 | arkanes | my wife leveled a shaman as rest back in classic |
| 16:03.03 | onaforeignshore | I still have the lvl 70 squiddy... though I'm horde now |
| 16:03.12 | arkanes | she loved it, because she'd pull a mob and slowly white swing it down while healing |
| 16:03.25 | arkanes | go get a cup of coffee, still killing... |
| 16:03.35 | onaforeignshore | great survivability, crap killing speed |
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| 16:29.10 | steev_ | i leveled a shaman as resto in BC |
| 16:29.15 | steev_ | wasn't bad at all |
| 16:29.28 | Ackis | I leveled as a pally before pally's had button pressing attacks |
| 16:29.31 | Ackis | it was terrible |
| 16:29.31 | steev_ | of course, i pretty much had my girlfriend on autofollow healing her |
| 16:29.48 | steev_ | and would pvp if she wasn't on |
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| 16:39.46 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:39.48 | Fisker | i want to die |
| 16:39.54 | durcyn | kill yourself |
| 16:39.54 | Ackis | y? |
| 16:40.10 | Fisker | healer that can't outheal third phase on the black knight |
| 16:40.22 | Fisker | and a tank that deals a whopping 1,1k TPS with ToTT |
| 16:40.35 | pentium166 | if your dps was higher you wouldn't need healing on the third phase :| |
| 16:40.36 | nevcairiel | black knight is so fucking easy |
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| 16:41.10 | Fisker | if my dps was higher i wouldn't need healing as i would be dead |
| 16:41.30 | nevcairiel | if dps doesnt solve the problem .. more dps will! |
| 16:43.10 | Fisker | had to use cloak of shadows to stay alive long enough to kill him |
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| 16:50.08 | Silowyi | Shadowed around? |
| 16:51.07 | Fisker | Silowyi was his addon featured on mmo-champion? |
| 16:51.29 | Gnarfoz | urgh |
| 16:51.36 | Gnarfoz | hatin' on UrbanAchiever |
| 16:52.39 | Silowyi | yes Fisker, first article today |
| 16:53.11 | Silowyi | of course they didn't mention his name in there (they really should put the author's name) |
| 16:53.28 | Ackis | blame Bibi- and Adys! |
| 16:53.39 | Gnarfoz | only bibi writes news anyway :p |
| 16:53.44 | Gnarfoz | fucking one man show |
| 16:53.44 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 16:54.21 | Silowyi | It's marking my 10 str 15 sta gems as "wrong" for tanking, when the socket bonus on the item is 9 stamina |
| 16:54.25 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: are you saying Adys doesn't deserve to be blamed? :P |
| 16:54.33 | Xtek | Ackis, where is my coffee? |
| 16:54.34 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: that's what I'm saying |
| 16:54.38 | Silowyi | I'm on a DK, str is threat + parry |
| 16:54.51 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: adys deserves to be blamed for EVERYTHING |
| 16:54.53 | Ackis | Xtek: I ated it :( |
| 16:55.02 | Xtek | :'(```` |
| 16:55.06 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: why? bibi's the frenchie |
| 16:55.22 | Silowyi | also flags my "DPS 2H" as wrong... for a DK tank ^_^ |
| 16:56.11 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/aggropie/. AggroPie. pacdude9 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Ackis. |
| 16:56.30 | pentium166 | mmm, pie |
| 16:56.35 | Gnarfoz | pie charts are relevant to my interests |
| 16:56.37 | sb|work | no screenshots |
| 16:56.41 | sb|work | Ackis sucks! |
| 16:56.55 | EthanCentaurai | s/sucks/is awesome/ |
| 16:56.57 | Ackis | sb|work: experimental |
| 16:57.03 | sb|work | pfff ;) |
| 16:57.17 | Ackis | means it's gotta go back into the queue before being released :P |
| 17:00.26 | Silowyi | aggropie! |
| 17:00.47 | Silowyi | today I was in a group with a ret paladin tanking on my DK |
| 17:01.07 | Silowyi | He was putting down consecrate and wings-ing on every pull >.> |
| 17:01.27 | Silowyi | made me wish I was frost tank instead of blood |
| 17:01.53 | Silowyi | after the third time he died though he started waiting a few seconds before wings :P |
| 17:01.57 | Vilkku | does Turkleton lurk here? |
| 17:02.27 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen turkleton |
| 17:02.28 | purl | i haven't seen 'turkleton', EthanCentaurai |
| 17:02.35 | EthanCentaurai | that's a no :p |
| 17:02.47 | Silowyi | is it caps sensitive? |
| 17:02.52 | Silowyi | ~seen Turkleton |
| 17:02.52 | purl | Silowyi: i haven't seen 'turkleton' |
| 17:02.57 | Silowyi | nope |
| 17:03.27 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen EtHaNcEnTaUrAi |
| 17:03.28 | purl | ethancentaurai is currently on #wowhead (17m 39s) #norganna (17m 39s) #wowuidev (17m 39s) #arl (17m 39s) #wowace (17m 39s) #curseforge (17m 39s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen EtHaNcEnTaUrAi'. |
| 17:03.51 | Silowyi | Purl should abuse you for ~seen-ing yourself |
| 17:04.08 | Adys | ~abuse EthanCentaurai |
| 17:04.09 | purl | ACTION smacks EthanCentaurai across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 17:04.23 | EthanCentaurai | lol |
| 17:04.25 | Silowyi | ah... hah |
| 17:04.47 | Silowyi | I liked Brandon__ better |
| 17:05.47 | rbarreiros | :) |
| 17:07.18 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r7011 Citadel/Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update. |
| 17:07.33 | arkanes | EG marks almost all my heroic ger as wrong, just because it's all gemmed for strength |
| 17:07.54 | arkanes | its okay though, as a tank the last thing I care about is what my group thinks of me :P |
| 17:08.05 | Ackis | I wonder what this shity auto-score addons would mark my stuff as |
| 17:08.44 | EthanCentaurai | ckknight: ping |
| 17:09.21 | Shadowed | Silowyi: ? |
| 17:09.33 | Shadowed | sb|work: No |
| 17:09.51 | sb|work | Shadowed: meh... :) |
| 17:11.05 | rbarreiros | why would a tank gem for str ? |
| 17:12.11 | Xtek | EthanCentaurai, what's up? |
| 17:12.28 | arkanes | rbarreiros: to do more DPS |
| 17:12.37 | Ackis | lua> "Xtek" == "ckknight" |
| 17:12.37 | lua_bot | Ackis: false |
| 17:12.41 | Ackis | :D |
| 17:12.45 | Xtek | ... |
| 17:12.46 | ckknight | false, Ackis |
| 17:12.48 | EthanCentaurai | owned |
| 17:12.50 | ckknight | hey EthanCentaurai |
| 17:12.51 | Fisker | ~wowalert |
| 17:12.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 17:13.00 | ckknight | Ackis: we're in the same office |
| 17:13.04 | Ackis | I know |
| 17:13.09 | Xtek | I can just turn around and bug him. |
| 17:13.11 | Xtek | Thus why I asked. |
| 17:13.11 | Fisker | YOU CAN'T BE EMPTY |
| 17:13.15 | Xtek | NO need to go all Canadian. |
| 17:13.20 | EthanCentaurai | didn't know that. |
| 17:13.20 | Ackis | I'm *never* an asshole :P |
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| 17:14.05 | Xtek | That's because asshole is a relative term and you've brought it to a whole new level, sir. |
| 17:14.09 | rbarreiros | arkanes, that's a new one |
| 17:14.20 | Ackis | touche |
| 17:15.45 | arkanes | rbarreiros: we're talking about heroics here, there's no reason for me to wear the huge EH sets I wear for raid bosses |
| 17:16.24 | arkanes | and threats not an issue so I wear some DPS gear and more block value and gem stuff for strength |
| 17:16.36 | rbarreiros | oh you have 2 gear sets for raids/heroics |
| 17:16.58 | arkanes | all sorts of combinations and variations! |
| 17:17.00 | Vilkku | hmm, anyone remember what the dps was like at lvl 60/70? |
| 17:17.07 | Vilkku | how much did you do, approx? |
| 17:17.13 | arkanes | not really :\ |
| 17:17.21 | rbarreiros | I like alot to go into all my EH huge tanking set into an heroic, pull all the trash into the first boss and aoe it all |
| 17:17.22 | arkanes | I know at 70 I was happy when I started to break 2k |
| 17:17.25 | rbarreiros | then do the same for the 2nd |
| 17:17.32 | rbarreiros | u'll end up with faster runs imho |
| 17:17.41 | pentium166 | i did 1000 in zul'aman as a feral druid once |
| 17:17.50 | arkanes | maybe like 500 at 60? |
| 17:18.05 | CrazyBenny | think it was about 1500 at black temple? |
| 17:18.16 | Vilkku | okey, cheers |
| 17:28.45 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.0.1-19-g952b6b3 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 17:28.47 | Repo | 952b6b3: Fixed path to CallbackHandler-1.0 being wrong |
| 17:28.49 | Repo | 86d2154: Removed the namespace from being local so people can access the item/enchant associator |
| 17:28.50 | Repo | 3719dd0: Upped note frame strata/level to try and stop it from going behind the UI |
| 17:29.22 | Xtek | I did 2300 on Brutallus. |
| 17:29.38 | Xtek | As a... wait for it. |
| 17:29.47 | Xtek | .... Fury Warrior with no glaives. |
| 17:31.01 | Xtek | Someone quick, mail me a snuggie! |
| 17:31.20 | asmodai | what's a snuggie? |
| 17:31.21 | Stanzilla | I did 1800 as a shadow priest on brut! |
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| 17:31.37 | Axodious | so did i |
| 17:31.41 | Xtek | https://www.getsnuggie.com/flare/next |
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| 17:32.11 | Repo | 10ranttooltip-exaile: 03S1nless * r2 / (18 files in 6 directories): Release 1.1 |
| 17:32.13 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.0.1-20-gde2816a data/item_data.lua: [+1 commit] Hyperspeed Accelerators reflagged to healer/dps |
| 17:32.54 | asmodai | Xtek: hah |
| 17:33.26 | Xtek | Our office... it's like they warm it up at night then turn the AC on during the day. |
| 17:33.57 | asmodai | seriously that ad, can you see yourself sitting with a Snuggie at a sporting event like that? |
| 17:34.17 | Xtek | Ask Kaelten. |
| 17:34.30 | asmodai | Kaelten: yo, inquisitive minds want to know |
| 17:35.08 | Xtek | He's wearing one at his desk right now. |
| 17:35.12 | Kaelten | hrm I have one covering my legs right now |
| 17:35.14 | Kaelten | it's nice |
| 17:35.32 | asmodai | Xtek: Must be Kaelten who turns on the AC! |
| 17:35.36 | Kaelten | for a while I was wearing my jacket+ gloves+snuggie |
| 17:35.38 | Xtek | Clearly. |
| 17:36.02 | nevcairiel | you seriously wear a blanket like that at work? i mean .. get some heater? |
| 17:36.08 | Xtek | Well the room I'm in with ckknight is 50% glass it gets cold as all hell in here. |
| 17:36.21 | asmodai | They allow ckknight into the office? |
| 17:36.28 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: space heaters are a fire hazard or some shit |
| 17:36.46 | nevcairiel | i mean like .. doesnt the building have some general heating system? |
| 17:36.51 | Xtek | asmodai, only when he's brought delicious treats with him. |
| 17:37.00 | Xtek | nevcairiel, one would think. |
| 17:37.10 | nevcairiel | my office is on like setting "+1" on a dial from -3 to +3 |
| 17:37.10 | ckknight | I'm wearing a bathrobe |
| 17:37.13 | nevcairiel | and its already damn hot |
| 17:37.28 | nevcairiel | on that note -1 is already cold enough for the hottest summer :P |
| 17:37.47 | Xtek | I'm wearing a heavy jacket and a hoodie on my lap, still cold. |
| 17:38.16 | nevcairiel | i should get my GF one of those snuggies |
| 17:38.19 | nevcairiel | she is always freezing |
| 17:38.27 | Kaelten | i'm borrowing the one i |
| 17:38.29 | Kaelten | 'm using from here |
| 17:38.35 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:38.35 | Kaelten | i'm also typing with gloves :/ |
| 17:38.44 | Kaelten | from my GF* |
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| 17:38.59 | asmodai | nevcairiel: +3 on a 0-5 setting |
| 17:39.22 | nevcairiel | i have gloves with cut-off fingers, its warm and i can type .. but i only wear them outside =P |
| 17:39.33 | Kaelten | I need some of those |
| 17:39.38 | nicoli_s | Kaelten you should know we have a strict no-snuggie policy |
| 17:39.55 | Kaelten | nicoli_s: you come in here and try to inforce that shit :P |
| 17:40.00 | asmodai | Kaelten: got those nev has, but with Thinsulate, very nice to keep warm. |
| 17:40.11 | Xtek | nicoli_s, I think we all just need to run Folding@Home. |
| 17:40.15 | Kaelten | just foudn out the track pad doesn't recognize my fingers with gloves on |
| 17:40.21 | nicoli_s | as long as its not a branded snuggie i guess its ok |
| 17:40.23 | asmodai | Xtek: Get a PDP11 off of Ebay |
| 17:40.23 | Xtek | I'm sure some Thermite would help the situation. |
| 17:40.29 | Kaelten | nicoli_s: then I'm in the clear |
| 17:40.35 | nicoli_s | and xtek, those cancer ridden kids can gtfo |
| 17:40.38 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i got them to use my phones touch screen outside .. those dont work with other gloves :P |
| 17:40.42 | Xtek | hah |
| 17:40.51 | asmodai | nevcairiel: annoying isn't it :( |
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| 17:41.10 | Kaelten | asmodai: does yours work with the phone? |
| 17:41.20 | asmodai | sure, leaves my fingertips free :D |
| 17:41.57 | asmodai | nevcairiel: I always say I love to keep my fingers free for any potential sniper rifle trigger I need to squeeze :P |
| 17:42.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:42.21 | Kaelten | link? |
| 17:42.34 | pentium166 | i replaced "sniper rifle trigger" with something else when i was skimming that sentence :( |
| 17:43.03 | sb|work | hmmm nevcairiel, order one more :p |
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| 17:43.29 | sb|work | gf always freezing sounds familiar |
| 17:43.39 | nevcairiel | amazon has snuggies, i can use curse points \o/ |
| 17:44.20 | Xtek | You should do that and buy everyone in our office one. |
| 17:44.38 | durcyn | nevcairiel: diaf |
| 17:44.40 | Xtek | In return, I'll tell you how warm I am. |
| 17:44.42 | sb|work | nevcairiel: .de? |
| 17:44.45 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:44.48 | sb|work | oh cool |
| 17:44.52 | asmodai | Aha |
| 17:44.54 | asmodai | I was right! |
| 17:44.55 | durcyn | snuggies are the end of civilization in blanket form |
| 17:45.02 | sb|work | gf birthday in 2 weeks, yay :p |
| 17:45.07 | durcyn | i bet you wear crocs and ride around on segways too, don't you |
| 17:45.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:45.15 | asmodai | [18:44:49]YAIAP: prefix = GSY_Version: debugstack = Interface\AddOns\GearScore\GearScore.lua:792: in function <Interface\AddOns\GearScore\GearScore.lua:791> |
| 17:45.18 | asmodai | [C]: ? |
| 17:45.20 | asmodai | [C]: in function `Show' |
| 17:45.23 | asmodai | Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1576: in function `SetUIPanel' |
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| 17:45.25 | asmodai | ... |
| 17:45.28 | nevcairiel | too bad they dont have blue in stock |
| 17:45.28 | asmodai | [18:44:49]You are not in a guild. |
| 17:45.31 | nevcairiel | guess i'll get red |
| 17:45.31 | Xtek | good job. |
| 17:46.06 | asmodai | So it seems GearScore is causing those "You are not in a guild" messages |
| 17:46.24 | sb|work | nevcairiel: 50eur>? :o |
| 17:46.26 | koaschten | hands asmodai a cookie. |
| 17:46.34 | nevcairiel | sb|work: http://www.amazon.de/Snuggie-Wohndecke-mit-%C3%84rmel-bordeaux/dp/B0030TAQ8O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1263231830&sr=8-2 |
| 17:46.51 | Gnarfoz | slanket! |
| 17:46.54 | asmodai | invokes the wrath of nevcairiel on GS |
| 17:47.03 | sb|work | hmm wtf, its from 10eur to 60 eur |
| 17:47.14 | Gnarfoz | theres cheaper clones of it |
| 17:47.34 | nevcairiel | the cheapest on amazon is for 12,84 |
| 17:48.32 | sb|work | but 50eur is better, right? :p |
| 17:48.35 | asmodai | koaschten: Testing with GS disabled now. |
| 17:48.48 | steev_ | asmodai: thats what you get for using fail addons |
| 17:50.00 | asmodai | koaschten: GS alright |
| 17:50.10 | koaschten | It's gs, just tes... |
| 17:50.12 | koaschten | ^^ |
| 17:50.43 | koaschten | now EG just needs some tooltip love and i can delete GS ;) |
| 17:50.48 | koaschten | pokes Shadowed |
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| 17:51.42 | Shadowed | mmmm? |
| 17:51.53 | Shadowed | There's not going to be tooltip info on mouseover, it can't really be done |
| 17:52.08 | Shadowed | Well, it can but it's kind of ugly because you have to maintain mouseover |
| 17:52.21 | Shadowed | it's not instant like GS |
| 17:52.54 | Shadowed | koaschten ^ |
| 17:53.09 | steev_ | too much focus on gear, not enough focus on whether or not the player is retarded |
| 17:53.29 | nevcairiel | thats why its called GearScore and not RetardScore |
| 17:53.59 | steev_ | gearscore/elitistgroup as a whole mean nothing |
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| 17:54.46 | arkanes | eg is basically a handy front end to inspect |
| 17:55.09 | arkanes | I'd like if the "experience" stuff was a little more detailed and said why it chose that number |
| 17:55.18 | Shadowed | It's arbitary |
| 17:55.30 | Shadowed | It's weighted towards end bosses and cleared achievements thought |
| 17:55.44 | Shadowed | I should probably remove the number at this point since you get detailed info on mouseover |
| 17:56.00 | arkanes | ah I guess I should update then |
| 17:56.19 | arkanes | we did togc lsat night with some pug healers who didn't really have it together and I'd have liked to see just which fights they'd done |
| 17:57.31 | Repo | 10libitembonus-2-0: 03jerry * r90 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 17:57.33 | Repo | Better GetEnchantName() implementation, that uses whatever item the character has to extract enchant text. |
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| 18:00.15 | asmodai | Does decursive make any sense for non-healing classes due to some ability? |
| 18:00.35 | Shadowed | I don't think decursive makes sense for anyone at this point :p |
| 18:01.21 | asmodai | Shadowed: *grin* |
| 18:02.14 | onaforeignshore | decursive - mage - decurse :p |
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| 18:04.07 | Fisker | btw Shadowed you disappoint me |
| 18:04.20 | Fisker | for weeks i've been trying to figure out why the gunship hp bars were gone |
| 18:04.21 | Fisker | and it was you! |
| 18:04.26 | nicoli_s | Fisker: sc2! gimme! |
| 18:04.33 | Shadowed | not my fault you fail |
| 18:05.08 | Fisker | to be fair it was more of "This is annoying, but not annoying that i'll check SUF options to confirm my suspicions" |
| 18:06.31 | asmodai | onaforeignshore: also does poisons and so :P |
| 18:06.37 | asmodai | onaforeignshore: and disease :P |
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| 18:06.53 | asmodai | onaforeignshore: so yea, druid, mage, shaman, priest |
| 18:06.58 | asmodai | paladin |
| 18:08.22 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.1 * 6a67cae /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.1 |
| 18:09.13 | Repo | 10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r100 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Add Class/Spec filter. |
| 18:10.40 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03cremor * r94 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - deDE Update (Tickets 10 and 13) |
| 18:10.42 | Repo | - Added Rune of the Nerubian Carapace |
| 18:11.27 | asmodai | Shadowed: you do realize with Bibi- giving you that exposure, you'll now have an army of Fisker's bothering you? :) |
| 18:11.56 | Shadowed | not really :p |
| 18:12.17 | Shadowed | Most of the Fisker types are the ones who kneejerk and go OMG GERASCORAP(E548q123r'pqwe |
| 18:13.03 | Fisker | naw |
| 18:13.12 | asmodai | Shadowed: yeah, quite a number of people in that comment thread who did not get the difference |
| 18:13.25 | Shadowed | yea the thread is pretty hilarious |
| 18:13.31 | Shadowed | basically everyone who hates it mistakes it as just GS |
| 18:13.38 | arkanes | comments on the internet |
| 18:13.43 | arkanes | terible things :( |
| 18:15.37 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03cremor * r274 RatingBuster-Locale-deDE.lua: - Big deDE Update |
| 18:15.39 | arkanes | I really hate gearscore and the forum drivel heads that talk about it |
| 18:16.06 | arkanes | but you have to wonder if all the people saying "blah blah it's the player not the gear" in such whiny posts are really the awesome players they think they are |
| 18:23.31 | Fisker | the beta starts today nichdu |
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| 18:23.33 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
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| 18:35.18 | Fisker | nicoli_s! |
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| 18:41.36 | Groktar | sets fire to Fisker |
| 18:44.49 | Mikk | cheers Groktar on! |
| 18:44.59 | Mikk | chants "fire! fire! fire! uhhhh-huhuhuh fire! fire!" |
| 18:45.40 | asmodai | heh |
| 18:47.35 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r60 DungeonMate.lua: * GearScore code updated to ignore '0' |
| 18:47.37 | Repo | * Loot Threshold now implemented. |
| 18:47.38 | Repo | * Slight upgrade to the loot link harvesting code. Still needs to use string.match |
| 18:49.27 | Mikk | (spot the 90s reference!) |
| 18:49.34 | asmodai | Mikk: Well duh :P |
| 18:52.46 | Kuosi | Shadowed: aweysome addon, pug forming never been this easy |
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| 18:59.40 | Groktar | i never realized how much fun undercutting people is |
| 19:03.53 | steev | Groktar: tons of fun |
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| 19:04.48 | asmodai | If you don't have the profession, but you click on a particular gathering node, will gathermate still record it? |
| 19:04.52 | Ingelagr | Shadowed / Antiarc: is it possible to make /EG follow my target? so if i change target, eg updates to that target? |
| 19:05.04 | Pneumatus | asmodai: last i tried it did |
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| 19:05.13 | Pneumatus | but gathermate_data tbh |
| 19:05.19 | Shadowed | Ingelagr: Mmmm, sure |
| 19:05.24 | Shadowed | will see about it |
| 19:05.28 | steev | can't believe the difference in gear levels for tanks |
| 19:05.38 | steev | okay, Festergut averaged 20365.2 melee hits on Hyperion during try 3, 17134.4 in try 2, and 25823.0 in try 1 - on me, in our kill (aka try 4) he averaged 12777.6 |
| 19:05.52 | Ingelagr | nice Shadowed :) |
| 19:06.04 | arkanes | that looks excessive |
| 19:06.13 | Axodious | Shadowed looking at your elitist group mod, does it have just a simple tooltip display? or do you have to open a window every time |
| 19:06.22 | steev | Hyperion being a prot paladin, myself being a frost tank |
| 19:06.23 | arkanes | and I wouldn't attribute that entirely to gear level, cooldown usage is going to affect that average |
| 19:06.32 | asmodai | Pneumatus: I find a lot of nodes not in the datafile it seems. |
| 19:06.43 | steev | arkanes: sadly, both of us are normally dps |
| 19:06.51 | steev | so i can't even check his armory :/ |
| 19:06.57 | Axodious | like i'm thinking tooltip hover that points out all the problems with a player |
| 19:06.58 | asmodai | And it's set to auto import |
| 19:06.59 | arkanes | look at world of logs |
| 19:07.05 | steev | arkanes: i am |
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| 19:07.15 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/x3wxpc5o1k1zyfvl/details/0/?s=9191&e=9451 (thats the log for me anyway) |
| 19:07.19 | arkanes | go to the buff support and check up the uptimes of various cooldowns |
| 19:07.30 | arkanes | I suspect that you had better coverage, especially during p3 |
| 19:08.00 | steev | arkanes: IBF only gets blown once in that fight, cuz I was tanking him second (as was Hyperion) |
| 19:08.01 | arkanes | WOL needs a way to recalc stats for specific time ranges, too |
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| 19:08.58 | steev | arkanes: either way - thats like 1/4 of my health average versus 1/2 his |
| 19:09.23 | steev | wol needs an easier way to flip between these detailed reports |
| 19:09.49 | Axodious | what it needs is a browser-esque "open in new tab" |
| 19:09.54 | arkanes | steev: he didn't pop any CDs at all |
| 19:09.59 | arkanes | steev: and he's using a greatness card, wtf? |
| 19:10.22 | arkanes | greatness and the icc pseudo greatness? |
| 19:10.31 | Shadowed | Axodious: What do you mean by a simple tooltip display |
| 19:10.35 | steev | arkanes: try 4 he was dps and i was tank |
| 19:10.39 | steev | he was tank for tries 1-3 |
| 19:10.43 | arkanes | ah |
| 19:10.51 | steev | actually |
| 19:10.55 | arkanes | who was the tank on 4? |
| 19:10.57 | steev | he was tank up til try 4 |
| 19:11.02 | steev | me and elaphria |
| 19:11.02 | Axodious | hover over someone (like gs) but instead of just some number it points out the flaws in the player... or is that not possible without inspecting? |
| 19:11.12 | Axodious | think be.imba |
| 19:11.16 | steev | steev and elaphria |
| 19:12.13 | steev | at try 4 i took over, and then on rotface, we had hollaback (hunter) kiting, and just elaphria tanking |
| 19:12.16 | arkanes | elaphria didn't blow a CD either, heh |
| 19:12.32 | steev | yeah but he doesn't have to, he's geared to the teeth as a tank :-P |
| 19:12.33 | Mikk | Axodious: you can "inspect" people in your vicinity without popping up the window |
| 19:12.38 | Mikk | "Utopia" does it for instance |
| 19:12.42 | Mikk | via LibGroupTalents |
| 19:12.45 | Axodious | so it is possible then :) |
| 19:13.18 | Shadowed | Axodious: Yea, I'll probably end up adding something like that |
| 19:13.23 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r61 DungeonMate.lua: Threshold bugfix |
| 19:13.31 | Shadowed | It's just kind of tricky |
| 19:13.39 | Shadowed | Because blizzard are jerks and messed up gems and inspecting |
| 19:15.20 | arkanes | steev: here's my log from our kill: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/dx82p9jzfzdnpgg2/details/3/?s=9057&e=9308 |
| 19:16.02 | arkanes | I had less than optimal buff uptime :( |
| 19:17.02 | steev | arkanes: is that 10 or 25? |
| 19:17.06 | arkanes | 10 |
| 19:17.14 | steev | hmm, i took less damage than you too |
| 19:17.21 | arkanes | note the difference from block |
| 19:17.38 | Pneumatus | omg i love t10 2pc for healing priests |
| 19:17.45 | Pneumatus | just had some 8k hot ticks |
| 19:17.54 | NeoTron | speaking of WoL - seen the new survivability metric? |
| 19:18.23 | steev | arkanes: divine shield? |
| 19:18.35 | arkanes | steev: no, thats blocking, like with a shield :P |
| 19:18.47 | steev | arkanes: 1 cast, up .3 seconds :-P |
| 19:18.57 | arkanes | yeah things got kind of hectic at the end |
| 19:18.59 | steev | does it wipe the debuff? |
| 19:19.05 | arkanes | no, I got killed through it |
| 19:19.17 | steev | ahh you blew up from 10 stacks |
| 19:19.27 | arkanes | no, other tank went down and healers didn't switch fast enough |
| 19:19.42 | steev | wow |
| 19:19.45 | arkanes | or mabe I did blow up |
| 19:19.49 | arkanes | I don't remember exactly |
| 19:19.59 | arkanes | no, I did, because he went down early, I bubbled off my stacks and took him |
| 19:20.01 | arkanes | then got to 10 again |
| 19:20.23 | arkanes | anyway yeah it got crazy at the end, 3% heal kite for the kill |
| 19:20.46 | arkanes | we'll do it clean next week now that we have a better handle on the timing |
| 19:20.55 | steev | arkanes: so you can bubble off the debuff? |
| 19:20.59 | arkanes | yes |
| 19:21.04 | steev | i fucking told our paladins that |
| 19:21.08 | arkanes | with good DPS using a single pally tank is entirely viable |
| 19:21.08 | steev | they wouldn't believe me |
| 19:21.24 | arkanes | you'd need 25 man geared DPS at this point of course |
| 19:21.43 | asmodai | I thought a paladin bubbled and then hearthstoned? :) |
| 19:21.53 | steev | yeah... i need to start working on my rotation again |
| 19:21.55 | arkanes | no, that was the tier 1 set bonus |
| 19:21.58 | arkanes | reduced hearthstone cooldown |
| 19:22.11 | asmodai | rofl |
| 19:22.56 | asmodai | That's a trinket I am never dropping from the Scourge invasion event |
| 19:26.18 | steev | the one that calls forth a paladin to fight at your side? |
| 19:26.45 | arkanes | hah yeah its great |
| 19:26.47 | steev | i'm kinda sad i can't get it on my dk, but i have it on my ret pally |
| 19:26.51 | arkanes | I had one on my rogue, I don't know what happened to it :( |
| 19:28.03 | Axodious | so im reading over your addon, it keeps a database of the notes you place and shares it? that's kinda hot |
| 19:28.08 | Axodious | @ Shadow00Caster |
| 19:28.10 | Axodious | er |
| 19:28.12 | Axodious | .. |
| 19:28.14 | Axodious | Shadowed |
| 19:28.37 | arkanes | there's been a number of playernotes addons through the years |
| 19:28.58 | Axodious | are there any with rating 1-5 though ;o |
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| 19:29.05 | arkanes | that is the new part! |
| 19:29.14 | steev | wish you could rate less than 1 |
| 19:29.25 | steev | -10 - 10 imo |
| 19:29.40 | Axodious | i like the 1-5 system |
| 19:29.41 | asmodai | steev: yeah, that one |
| 19:29.42 | Axodious | not to complicated |
| 19:29.45 | Shadowed | yes Axodious |
| 19:29.47 | sb|work | uhm Shadowed |
| 19:29.49 | asmodai | steev: and at the end bubble hearths |
| 19:29.54 | steev | asmodai: yeah |
| 19:30.02 | sb|work | "integrade windows" should be "integrate window" in config :o |
| 19:30.06 | steev | i've never actually bubblehearthed on my paladin |
| 19:30.13 | Shadowed | that would make sense |
| 19:30.17 | Shadowed | I was doing that at like |
| 19:30.18 | Shadowed | 3 AM |
| 19:30.30 | arkanes | I've done it a couple times |
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| 19:30.41 | asmodai | groans 413 copper bars and 144 bronze. And 2 points shy of 125 to get the next metal to mine/smelt XD |
| 19:30.48 | arkanes | the first time was when I was leveling, and I was trying to solo a group quest |
| 19:31.02 | arkanes | got the quest target down with a bunch of adds still up, so I bubbled and hearthed to turn in |
| 19:31.07 | arkanes | and then laughed for 10 minutes |
| 19:33.42 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-3-gd0f3e5f / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 19:33.44 | Repo | d0f3e5f: Fixed Integrade typo in configuration |
| 19:33.45 | Repo | 597769f: STR/STA hybrid gems are now classified as melee and won't be red flagged if a tank wears them |
| 19:33.47 | Repo | 27d3daa: Updated unit tests |
| 19:34.37 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.26 * 98628b4 /: [new tag, +1 commits] v1.1.26 |
| 19:34.44 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-4-gc790eb6 modules/inspect.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed inspect.lua:186 error if no enchants are found |
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| 19:38.34 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.26 * r95 : Tagging as 1.0.26 |
| 19:41.09 | Stanzilla | Antiarc / Grum http://pastey.net/131310 |
| 19:42.06 | asmodai | Reading wowwiki on blacksmithing am I correct in assuming that weaponsmithing can learn all three subspecialties? |
| 19:42.25 | nevcairiel | one of the three |
| 19:42.28 | nevcairiel | afaik |
| 19:42.49 | asmodai | Ah now I see from the text. |
| 19:42.59 | asmodai | Seems the quest was skipped. |
| 19:49.45 | Shadowed | what the |
| 19:49.54 | Shadowed | Why is gearscore sending version info when you open the paper doll |
| 19:50.00 | Shadowed | that is horribly arbitrary |
| 19:51.16 | Fisker | do you need to relog completely to get shaking working again after using nameplates or can you just /reloadui? |
| 19:59.16 | chiper | I just had a random thought. when Arthas shatters the floor in ToC, where does he go? |
| 19:59.33 | chiper | he's standing in the middle of the room, he should have fallen into the lake with the rest of us |
| 20:00.43 | Fisker | no he can teleport |
| 20:01.21 | chiper | his deathgate is a good 20 yards behind him |
| 20:02.34 | chiper | we also noticed that lightbane and darkbane's corpses always land in different places below then where they were above |
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| 20:08.45 | Fisker | they can teleport too |
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| 20:13.28 | Megalon | teleports Fisker |
| 20:14.40 | cm100 | is thinking of creating a free and open addon database |
| 20:15.41 | nicoli_s | free and open, whats that mean? |
| 20:15.43 | cm100 | that would be kinda sweet tbh |
| 20:16.13 | chiper | cm100: you mean yet another curse competitor that will never get used and eventually die? |
| 20:16.14 | cm100 | open, as in anyone or anything can download them, free as in you don't need to become a member |
| 20:16.29 | cm100 | chiper: kinda :) |
| 20:16.39 | Megalon | so, you mean |
| 20:16.42 | Megalon | like wowmatrix |
| 20:16.44 | Megalon | h3h3h3 |
| 20:16.47 | nevcairiel | just two questions |
| 20:16.57 | cm100 | Megalon: isnt Megalon a client |
| 20:17.05 | cm100 | err, wowmatrix - im tired |
| 20:17.28 | nevcairiel | 1.) Where do you plan to get the addons? You can't just host them without the authors agreeing; 2.) Who is supposed to pay for the bandwidth once its so great? ;) |
| 20:17.59 | Megalon | Fisker pays |
| 20:18.00 | cm100 | 1) from the authors themselves 2) something will come up |
| 20:18.03 | Megalon | because one day |
| 20:18.09 | Megalon | he WILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING |
| 20:18.11 | chiper | perhaps I'm missing something, but what's keeping people from downloading from curse without being a member? |
| 20:18.12 | nevcairiel | except that the authors wont give you addons |
| 20:18.24 | nevcairiel | authors are lazy |
| 20:18.32 | nevcairiel | and curse and wowinterface are just fine |
| 20:18.35 | cm100 | chiper: isnt that manual downloads only? |
| 20:18.36 | nevcairiel | you dont need to sign up |
| 20:18.58 | chiper | yes, but you didn't say anything about automatic |
| 20:19.04 | cm100 | i did |
| 20:19.09 | chiper | goes to lunch |
| 20:19.11 | Shadowed | Nobody is going to upload to your site, sorry |
| 20:19.15 | Shadowed | harsh but it's the truth |
| 20:19.22 | nicoli_s | why not just pay people to upload there |
| 20:19.31 | Shadowed | The only way you're ever going to get people to upload is if you bribe them, and even then you have to bribe them a bit to make it worthwhile |
| 20:19.45 | cm100 | Shadowed: perhaps |
| 20:20.03 | Shadowed | I'm certainly not going to stop you if you want to spend your time doing this, but I assure you, it's going to fail |
| 20:20.06 | Shadowed | people have tried before |
| 20:20.15 | nevcairiel | It actually would be against my own interests to have even more sources for my addons |
| 20:20.18 | nevcairiel | less people would use curse |
| 20:20.22 | nevcairiel | less curse points for me! |
| 20:20.22 | Shadowed | and less points |
| 20:20.31 | cm100 | nevcairiel: whats curse points? |
| 20:20.35 | Shadowed | WoWMatrix is a perfect example. It was only popular while they hotlinked mods from Curse and WoWI, as soon as that got blocked it died off quickly |
| 20:20.42 | nevcairiel | I just upload stuff to WoWI because i like them |
| 20:21.08 | cm100 | nevcairiel: well, ive got this keen feelings, this idea is kinda good |
| 20:21.16 | cm100 | feeling* |
| 20:21.22 | Shadowed | You're delusional :p |
| 20:21.25 | nevcairiel | well, like others said, have fun wasting your time ;) |
| 20:21.39 | nevcairiel | The bandwidth costs are extreme |
| 20:21.43 | nevcairiel | it doesnt just solve itself somehow |
| 20:21.51 | nevcairiel | even if you get addon authors on your bandwagon |
| 20:22.00 | cm100 | nevcairiel: is curse using the cloud? |
| 20:22.08 | Arrowmaster | you are an idiot |
| 20:22.16 | Arrowmaster | you have no grasp of technology |
| 20:22.25 | Shadowed | look Arrowmaster |
| 20:22.28 | nevcairiel | The clouds are there to produce rain, or snow at this time of year! |
| 20:22.28 | Shadowed | I plug USB things into the other things |
| 20:22.29 | Shadowed | and they work |
| 20:22.32 | Arrowmaster | you are just sprouting buzz words now |
| 20:22.35 | Shadowed | I do not question them |
| 20:23.04 | nevcairiel | speaking of snow .. its been snowing non-stop for 2 days now |
| 20:23.10 | nevcairiel | i hope it stops sometime soon :/ |
| 20:23.23 | cm100 | haha - ok, when some random guy says "you are an idiot, you have no grasp of technolog" over IRC without knowing me, thats my exit ;) |
| 20:23.33 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 20:23.37 | Shadowed | When the authors you are hoping to use your site tell you you are an idiot |
| 20:23.38 | Arrowmaster | now leave |
| 20:23.39 | Shadowed | you're an idiot |
| 20:24.07 | cm100 | heh, why is everyone being so defensive? |
| 20:24.15 | Shadowed | The only people you would likely get to upload to your site are the really new ones who release mod #95454 of something already done |
| 20:24.26 | Shadowed | that basically nobody will use |
| 20:24.40 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:24.43 | Arrowmaster | because some idiot comes in here atleast once every month with the same stupid idea, to make a new addon site thats 'better' and 'free' |
| 20:24.56 | cm100 | Shadowed: but a serious question, why do you think that all authors are curse-fanboys? |
| 20:24.58 | *** part/#wowace Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 20:25.06 | nevcairiel | I was meaning to test that command |
| 20:25.08 | nevcairiel | it works! |
| 20:25.09 | Shefki | cm100: Because it works. |
| 20:25.12 | Shadowed | cm100: Curse is popular and I get points/money for uploading to them. |
| 20:25.16 | Shefki | cm100: And not all of them are. |
| 20:25.25 | profalbert | it works, and teh points |
| 20:25.25 | cm100 | Shadowed: whats points? |
| 20:25.35 | Shadowed | You want to start a new site, and you don't even know what your "competition" offers |
| 20:25.36 | Shadowed | niceeeee |
| 20:25.45 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): Improved logo. |
| 20:25.46 | Shadowed | although one day Curse will not have such a terrible layout |
| 20:25.46 | Shadowed | one day |
| 20:26.00 | Arrowmaster | cm100: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/author-store-is-launched/ |
| 20:26.02 | cm100 | Shadowed: oh, no - im not thinking of creating a competitive site |
| 20:26.07 | Shadowed | .... |
| 20:27.01 | nevcairiel | the whole curse.com deal has always been terrible Shadowed, we just got used to it =p |
| 20:27.14 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: Why do you think I stopped uploading to Curse until the points system was added :p |
| 20:27.23 | Shadowed | having to go through 5 pages to update an addon got old |
| 20:27.34 | nevcairiel | repositories ftw |
| 20:27.37 | cm100 | "directly into the Author Reward Program" - you get money? |
| 20:27.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:27.54 | nevcairiel | I get 20 USD every day just that my addons are hosted on curse |
| 20:28.02 | Shadowed | I get a goat |
| 20:28.03 | nevcairiel | fwiw i'm one of the people that earn the most, but still |
| 20:28.05 | Shadowed | I think I got screwed :( |
| 20:28.13 | pentium166 | a goat every day? |
| 20:28.22 | Shadowed | a goat a day keeps the doctor away |
| 20:28.25 | steev | Shadowed: write better addons :-P |
| 20:28.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:28.32 | cm100 | nevcairiel: you earn 600 USD a month from curse? |
| 20:28.34 | Arrowmaster | ive earned $1500 so far but i still havent gotten any of it |
| 20:28.34 | Shadowed | I actually get like 90 a day |
| 20:28.51 | nevcairiel | points or $ ? :P |
| 20:28.53 | Shadowed | not as crazy as nevcairiel's 400 a day, but it's still a bit |
| 20:29.04 | Shadowed | how the hell would I get $90 a day :P |
| 20:29.04 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: "but i still havent gotten any of it" :) |
| 20:29.04 | nevcairiel | ah, points |
| 20:29.07 | nevcairiel | i was confused :P |
| 20:29.10 | nevcairiel | i would've thought you get more |
| 20:29.12 | steev | I've earned 0, but I've given em like, 29.95 or whatever it was for the yearly sub, cuz i liek tehm |
| 20:29.16 | Arrowmaster | cm100: paypal issue |
| 20:29.20 | Shadowed | mmmm |
| 20:29.35 | Arrowmaster | accounting is sorting it out |
| 20:29.36 | nevcairiel | cm100: and yes, i get about 600 a month, and i've cashed in all of it over the last half year |
| 20:29.41 | Pneumatus | i think ive taken about 30 GBP in amazon vouchers |
| 20:29.42 | nevcairiel | so it works |
| 20:29.45 | Shadowed | It keeps going up, but things like SUF don't have a huge install base |
| 20:29.59 | nevcairiel | I get most of my shit from BT4 still |
| 20:30.00 | Shadowed | it's something like 10 each from afflicted/qa/suf, then 12 from LHC/wrapper |
| 20:30.03 | nevcairiel | i should really maintain it more |
| 20:30.12 | Shadowed | and then another like 50 from the fact that I have 50 addons :> |
| 20:30.23 | cm100 | haha, the only "real" money you can get is if you have 10k points?? |
| 20:30.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah and ive earned 35k points |
| 20:30.56 | nevcairiel | amazon gift certs arent too bad |
| 20:30.57 | Shadowed | Although EG is going to jump soon |
| 20:31.08 | profalbert | for me anazon gift certs are like real money |
| 20:31.09 | Shadowed | since Bibi- posted about it, it's like quantouplibed in downloads |
| 20:31.22 | nevcairiel | I need some new addon idea to write |
| 20:31.27 | nicoli_s | its no fair, i dontget any points for my addons :( |
| 20:31.28 | Shadowed | write me a sandwich |
| 20:31.28 | nevcairiel | and time to write it, too!° |
| 20:31.37 | nicoli_s | and CurseProfiler and CurseProfiler and CurseProfiler are all so popular! |
| 20:31.39 | Pneumatus | i'd never shop on amazon if it wasnt for curse vouchers |
| 20:31.41 | cm100 | nicoli_s: someone has to loose :( |
| 20:31.41 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: you dont have any addons |
| 20:31.42 | nevcairiel | silly bachelor thesis is eatin my time |
| 20:31.52 | Pneumatus | not as popular as questhelper |
| 20:31.53 | Bibi- | was 2k before I posted Shadowed |
| 20:31.55 | Bibi- | 15k now |
| 20:31.56 | nicoli_s | ArrowMaster:thats a lie |
| 20:31.59 | Vilkku | when a function returns many values, e.g. like UnitBuff, is there a way to only have a variable for the n:th thing it returns? |
| 20:32.07 | Shadowed | I don't know what the word would be for 8 times |
| 20:32.10 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume 040.5-rc4 * r63 : Tagging as 0.5-rc4 |
| 20:32.13 | Arrowmaster | Vilkku: select() |
| 20:32.14 | nevcairiel | Vilkku: select(n, UnitBuff(..)) |
| 20:32.16 | Shadowed | Vilkku: select(#, UnitBuff()) |
| 20:32.18 | Shadowed | efb |
| 20:32.22 | Vilkku | :> |
| 20:32.23 | Vilkku | cheers |
| 20:32.28 | Arrowmaster | !api select |
| 20:32.28 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'select' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select |
| 20:32.34 | Shadowed | But it returns everything after that too |
| 20:32.37 | Megalon | Shadowed: octotupled |
| 20:32.37 | Bibi- | octosomething. |
| 20:32.39 | Bibi- | I guess |
| 20:32.40 | Shefki | Avoid select if you really want a scalar value. |
| 20:32.47 | Shadowed | So if something returns 3 arguments, and you do select(2, ...) it will return arg #2 and #3 |
| 20:32.52 | Shadowed | octotupled in about 12 hours |
| 20:32.53 | Shadowed | not bad |
| 20:32.54 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Maat * r185 LibFail-1.0.lua: dont fail slimes during phase transition |
| 20:33.02 | cm100 | Lua is a terrible language tbh, its a pity Blizzard picked that :P |
| 20:33.05 | nevcairiel | you can always wrap it in ( ) to cut off the remaining values if it matters |
| 20:33.15 | nevcairiel | Lua is a great language for this task |
| 20:33.32 | ckknight | Lua is a great embedded language |
| 20:33.35 | Arrowmaster | if he says python you better kick him nev |
| 20:33.37 | ckknight | it's fast, simple |
| 20:33.39 | cm100 | nevcairiel: if you compare lua against ruby or python - tell me why |
| 20:33.46 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: do it |
| 20:33.52 | Shefki | cm100: They're not designed to be embedded. |
| 20:33.54 | nevcairiel | both ruby and python are way too complex and big for an embedded task like this |
| 20:33.58 | Shefki | Lua is designed as an embedded language. |
| 20:34.12 | steev | nevcairiel: write me an addon that simply displays the number of frost emblems of each of my toons on my server |
| 20:34.18 | Shefki | It's fast and easy to embed. |
| 20:34.19 | ckknight | ruby and python are a lot more heavyweight, with their OO concepts, tossing around closures incessantly, etc. |
| 20:34.36 | profalbert | @project broker-currency |
| 20:34.38 | Repo | profalbert: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker-currency/. Broker_Currency. Game: WoW. Azethoth (Manager/Author), Torhal (Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 6/28 |
| 20:34.45 | SunTsu | .o0( Maybe somebody would just pastey him a log of the 200 discussions of this topic that already took place ) |
| 20:34.45 | Arrowmaster | ruby and python also cannot be sandboxed as easily as lua |
| 20:34.55 | ckknight | I'm a big ruby fanboy |
| 20:34.55 | profalbert | steev: broker_currency ;) |
| 20:35.09 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: since when? |
| 20:35.11 | ckknight | and although it'd be cool if WoW used ruby, it makes a lot of sense of why they chose lua |
| 20:35.16 | nevcairiel | I'm a python fanboy, but i still wouldnt use it for WoW |
| 20:35.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: since Rails 0.9 or so |
| 20:35.37 | ckknight | I think I was a senior in high school |
| 20:35.39 | ckknight | that was 2005 |
| 20:35.59 | Arrowmaster | youngin |
| 20:36.08 | Torhal | Ugh. Ackis approved SkillScore. |
| 20:36.38 | durcyn | ackis is dumb |
| 20:36.40 | nevcairiel | those silly unnecessary *Score addons are popping up all around us |
| 20:36.49 | Caleb| | @describe skillscore |
| 20:36.50 | Repo | Caleb|: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/skillscore/. SkillScore. Create a score based on a users gemming and talents to represent their "skill" |
| 20:37.15 | nevcairiel | there is also a second one |
| 20:37.20 | nevcairiel | @describe skillscorez |
| 20:37.20 | Torhal | nevcairiel: You don't understand. SkillScore is the GearScore author throwing a hissy fit. It's a nonsense addon because he freaked out over people saying there needs to be a way to rate score instead of gear |
| 20:37.20 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/skillscorez/. SkillScore. Calculates a player's SkillScore. |
| 20:37.48 | Shefki | Will someone from fucking google write an addon to measure players so these amateurs can stop. |
| 20:37.53 | Shefki | Because they all suck at it. |
| 20:37.55 | Torhal | s/rate score/rate skill/ |
| 20:38.20 | Torhal | Shefki: You should look at this AddOn, seriously. It's an exercise in freaking out using code. |
| 20:39.16 | steev | profalbert: maybe i'm blind but... where does it show up |
| 20:39.22 | *** join/#wowace Keias (n=bleh@pool-72-86-106-233.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:39.41 | Shadowed | I am pretty sure the Gearscore author is going to cry at this point |
| 20:39.51 | profalbert | steev: hasn't it been udpated? |
| 20:39.54 | Shadowed | basically every comment on EG has been "Fuck gearscore, I'm going to use this" |
| 20:40.02 | steev | profalbert: i mean... the currency |
| 20:40.05 | cm100 | atleast if it was ruby or python, it would have been useful to learn. I have no clue where - apart from LUA - i will ever use that language |
| 20:40.11 | steev | i got nothing on my screen |
| 20:40.22 | profalbert | steev: in any ldb-display? |
| 20:40.25 | SunTsu | cm100: yeah, because lua is that hard to learn |
| 20:40.28 | Shefki | cm100: It's Lua not LUA |
| 20:40.35 | Torhal | steev: It's an LDB AddOn. |
| 20:40.39 | steev | ... |
| 20:40.43 | Arrowmaster | cm100: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_%28programming_language%29#Applications |
| 20:40.46 | Shadowed | Bibi- your forums need multi quote |
| 20:40.47 | steev | so i need 2 addons just to simply display a number? |
| 20:40.47 | Shadowed | god damnit |
| 20:40.58 | SunTsu | profalbert: steev wants an overview of all his toons on all accounts on his server, which can never happen |
| 20:41.10 | steev | SunTsu: no - i realize that i can't |
| 20:41.17 | Torhal | steev: Well, Toadkiller didn't use LibDBIcon and I haven't added it yet, so yes. |
| 20:41.20 | steev | but still knowing how many alts |
| 20:41.29 | steev | Torhal: okay, thanks anyway then :) |
| 20:44.08 | steev | profalbert: I mean like this - http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/wafflestats.png - just a simple list of Character - X where Character is a character on that account, on that server, and X is the number of Emblems of Frost that they have |
| 20:44.34 | SunTsu | steev: currency does that quite fine |
| 20:44.56 | SunTsu | steev: for all currencies as the name tells |
| 20:45.08 | steev | SunTsu: yes, if i install 2 addons to do it |
| 20:46.04 | steev | i'm not discounting the addon, i'm just saying, that for a simple thing, it shouldn't take 2 addons to do |
| 20:46.29 | SunTsu | steev: yeah, but I use a ldb display anyway |
| 20:46.41 | cm100 | steev: I see you are friends with Wollmann, how is he? ;) |
| 20:47.05 | steev | dave? i haven't talked to him in a bit |
| 20:47.19 | steev | we used to work at the same place together |
| 20:47.42 | cm100 | steev: i feel sorry for you using ubuntu :P |
| 20:47.57 | steev | cm100: *shrug* work standardised on it |
| 20:48.11 | SunTsu | cm100: you like slapping people's face, don't you? |
| 20:48.18 | cm100 | SunTsu: huh? |
| 20:48.22 | steev | i get to use Linux at work, which is more than 80% of the population |
| 20:48.58 | cm100 | SunTsu: never ever done it. |
| 20:49.07 | cm100 | steev: me too. Used ubuntu at work, until i had to install two screens - then i converted to vista. |
| 20:49.18 | SunTsu | cm100: you seem to be discontend with anything that comes your way and criticize it without having valid alternatives |
| 20:49.18 | cm100 | steev: but its good to learn |
| 20:49.31 | steev | cm100: to learn what? |
| 20:49.55 | cm100 | SunTsu: ok |
| 20:50.02 | cm100 | steev: using linux and ubuntu |
| 20:50.09 | steev | ... |
| 20:50.24 | steev | re-read that url |
| 20:50.33 | steev | i don't need to learn how to use linux |
| 20:50.55 | steev | ubuntu is a means to an end, that end is a paycheck |
| 20:52.17 | cm100 | steev: wow, you are a pro linux user? please forgive me, did not mean to insult you. I was merely suggestion, we are all students of learning in life. But i see now you are not as the rest of us. You are neo in the matrix. You don't have to learn. |
| 20:52.20 | cm100 | :) |
| 20:52.37 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: seriously kick the troll |
| 20:53.01 | Megalon | so cm100 is just a troll like fisker |
| 20:53.06 | Megalon | but without being funny at times |
| 20:53.17 | pompy | agrees with Arrowmaster |
| 20:53.41 | steev | eh |
| 20:53.54 | steev | just seems like (and i could be wrong here) not a native english speaker |
| 20:54.07 | cm100 | no offence, but saying 'i don't need to learn how to use linux' - do that in #linux and see the response |
| 20:54.43 | Vilkku | hmm, UnitBuff returns the time left of the buff in seconds, right` |
| 20:54.44 | SunTsu | cm100: steev needs to do his work with linux, nothing more, nothing less |
| 20:54.45 | Vilkku | ? |
| 20:55.09 | Vilkku | I'm getting values like 52335.098 |
| 20:55.23 | steev | SunTsu: well, realistically, i could do it in Windows, but I get less blue screens, and its easier to open a new terminal than a new putty session ;) |
| 20:55.40 | pompy | !api UnitBuff |
| 20:55.40 | lua_bot | UnitBuff: Returns information about a buff on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff) |
| 20:57.13 | cm100 | SunTsu: fair enough. however saying "i dont need to learn x" in the CS-world would get you automatically flamed :-) |
| 20:57.24 | SunTsu | cm100: so? |
| 20:57.41 | cm100 | SunTsu: avoid being flamed |
| 20:57.50 | SunTsu | cm100: why would anybody care about idiot's flaming? |
| 20:59.29 | cm100 | SunTsu: you are right, they shouldnt (<Arrowmaster> you are an idiot <Arrowmaster> you have no grasp of technology) |
| 21:00.01 | steev | cm100:"I'm not focused on learning Linux, I use it for work, and I develop for, and on it in my spare time" -better? |
| 21:00.29 | SunTsu | cm100: obviously Arrowmaster is right |
| 21:00.33 | Arrowmaster | "<cm100> nevcairiel: is curse using the cloud?" |
| 21:00.38 | Arrowmaster | ^idiot |
| 21:00.54 | steev | the internets are always clouds in the diagrams :( |
| 21:01.03 | nicoli_s | hey, hes not an idiot, we do use clouds to carry deadly tsunamis to our enemies |
| 21:01.08 | SunTsu | "How do you pay all the bandwidth?" "That will come somehow" |
| 21:01.12 | steev | except that one, in which case its a tube |
| 21:01.19 | durcyn | i carry my tsunamis in the ocean, nicoli_s. |
| 21:01.29 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: explain yourself. Dont just type word you know and hope it would insult someone. |
| 21:01.40 | nicoli_s | yah, but in web 2.0, you carry tsunamis in the cloud |
| 21:01.59 | Arrowmaster | this is no such thing as "the cloud", its all just buzzword marketing hype |
| 21:02.31 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: i guess you have experience and knowledge i assume? about the cloud is just a buzzword? |
| 21:02.47 | Arrowmaster | yes i do |
| 21:02.49 | Pneumatus | cm100 sounds like a turing bot |
| 21:02.53 | Pneumatus | and not a very good one |
| 21:02.57 | SunTsu | OK, another one bites the /ignore, hey another one bites the /ignore </shameless rape of Queen> |
| 21:03.45 | steev | markovian chains imo |
| 21:04.41 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: in what way? |
| 21:06.03 | *** join/#wowace p3lim^ (n=Miranda@85.108.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 21:06.36 | cm100 | Pneumatus: i remember the first time i meet eliza, back in the 1990+s, it was mind blowing :) |
| 21:06.55 | Arrowmaster | there are services such as amazons but all of the different, seperate, 'cloud' services are very expensive to use, nobody would ever use them to host a major site due to how inflated bandwidth costs are on them compared to a real host capable of serving a major site |
| 21:09.01 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: so you are saying no major sites use cloud-services? |
| 21:09.39 | Arrowmaster | not for hosting static files |
| 21:09.56 | cm100 | anyone more conditions you want to add? |
| 21:10.05 | cm100 | while you are at it |
| 21:11.30 | Shefki | Find a channel. |
| 21:11.37 | Shefki | This isn't the place for this discussion. |
| 21:11.39 | Shadowed | Is "go away" a condition |
| 21:13.06 | cm100 | no major sits use cloud-services! .. oh, i mean for hosting static files that is! err, and oh, uhh, that uses script-languages, and - well obviously - i only meant american sites.. in florida :) |
| 21:13.15 | Shefki | GO AWAY |
| 21:13.33 | Shefki | If you want to talk about addon development, then do so. |
| 21:13.42 | Shefki | Otherwise, go talk about your cloud services in #cloud or whever they do that. |
| 21:13.53 | cm100 | Shefki: Fair enough :) |
| 21:14.15 | koaschten | and you better dont wake ckknight |
| 21:14.33 | nicoli_s | besides cm100, yer ignoring the main point, try and compete with us and youll find many animal heads in your bed |
| 21:14.35 | Shadowed | what why would you wake ckknight |
| 21:14.37 | Shadowed | ckknight ckknight ckknight |
| 21:14.37 | ckknight | I HAVE AWOKEN! |
| 21:14.46 | Shadowed | See |
| 21:14.49 | Shadowed | say his name 3 times and he comes |
| 21:14.51 | nicoli_s | you cant really be awoken if yer still in yer robe ckknight |
| 21:14.53 | Torhal | Shadowed: This isn't a fucking Michael Keaton movie. |
| 21:14.57 | ckknight | it's true, nicoli_s |
| 21:14.57 | Shadowed | hahah |
| 21:15.03 | ckknight | I am in a state of perpetual slumber |
| 21:15.05 | ckknight | in my bathrobe |
| 21:15.18 | koaschten | ckknight is wearing snuggies? |
| 21:15.19 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:15.24 | ckknight | no, koaschten, Kaelten is |
| 21:15.27 | ckknight | I'm in a proper robe. |
| 21:15.29 | ckknight | it gives me +5 int |
| 21:15.30 | koaschten | :X |
| 21:15.45 | pentium166 | does it come with a pointy hat |
| 21:15.49 | arkanes | do you have a wizard hat? |
| 21:15.50 | Shefki | ckknight: +5 flame resistance too? |
| 21:15.50 | Arrowmaster | hands ckknight a wizard hat |
| 21:16.06 | ckknight | I need a pipe and a brandy snifter |
| 21:16.27 | Shefki | Apparently your robe doesn't give you +5 testing though. |
| 21:16.28 | Shefki | :P |
| 21:16.31 | Torhal | ... |
| 21:16.52 | arkanes | brady snifter of +3 drycoding |
| 21:16.55 | ckknight | hiyo |
| 21:17.00 | cm100 | haha, this is some major ass licking - i mean, this office episode. I am not referring to when ckknight started to write. Office is really funny. |
| 21:17.00 | Torhal | arkanes: Ackis has the patent. |
| 21:17.12 | nicoli_s | wait what |
| 21:17.35 | Torhal | ckknight: In case you didn't notice, cm100 is an off-topic troll. It's awesome. |
| 21:17.42 | Shadowed | you should just ban him |
| 21:18.01 | cm100 | I just mentioned the office, its a funny show :> |
| 21:18.03 | Shadowed | Not really any point to keep him here given he's just been trolling/being an idiot |
| 21:18.13 | *** mode/#wowace [-v cm100] by ckknight |
| 21:18.14 | nicoli_s | yah hes not near as funny as fisker |
| 21:18.17 | nicoli_s | and hes all the troll we need |
| 21:18.25 | Arrowmaster | wrong button ckk |
| 21:18.27 | koaschten | Mommy, mommy, can i keep him? i found him on the intarweb! |
| 21:18.32 | koaschten | No boy it's a troll. |
| 21:18.44 | Xtek | shit shat |
| 21:19.47 | cm100 | You guys think blizzards next mmo will use lua too? |
| 21:20.00 | nicoli_s | i think so |
| 21:20.14 | koaschten | no it will consume trolls and generate great content from it automatically |
| 21:20.15 | steev | it will use ruby |
| 21:20.18 | nicoli_s | unless the new language they are making for sc2 is generic enough it will work |
| 21:20.19 | Arrowmaster | probably since all their lua experts are working on it |
| 21:20.28 | Xtek | I prefer JavaScript. |
| 21:20.31 | nevcairiel | given their experience with the language, its very likely |
| 21:20.31 | Arrowmaster | although those guys have other jobs too |
| 21:20.39 | nicoli_s | hell, the new swtor is gonna use flash |
| 21:20.47 | Torhal | ... |
| 21:20.48 | cm100 | Xtek: hehe, that would be awesome if they suddenly picked JS |
| 21:20.58 | SunTsu | I think it should be Brainfuck, would be real fun to write addons |
| 21:21.01 | Xtek | Yes, yes it would. |
| 21:21.06 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: yes i bitched about that to my friend at bioware |
| 21:21.06 | Xtek | </sarcasm> |
| 21:21.06 | arkanes | nicoli_s: you mean the game ui will be in flash, and scripted in actionscript? |
| 21:21.09 | cm100 | nicoli_s: Flash is not a language tho |
| 21:21.20 | arkanes | nicoli_s: or is it going to be some sort of in-browser MMO like the free ones? |
| 21:21.34 | nicoli_s | no the ui addons will be in flash |
| 21:21.35 | olafski | SWTOR? hardly :) |
| 21:21.48 | nevcairiel | They use Flash/ActionScript for their UI, its evil |
| 21:21.57 | arkanes | i remember maybe 7/8 years ago flash was being marketed to game developers as a way to do your ingame UI |
| 21:22.00 | Arrowmaster | jumpgate is too |
| 21:22.06 | nicoli_s | at least ill be a step ahead, since i know AS yay! |
| 21:22.18 | nevcairiel | i refused to ever learn AS |
| 21:22.20 | cm100 | saw that nevcairiel did there |
| 21:22.24 | cm100 | what |
| 21:22.42 | cm100 | nevcairiel: You're a JavaFX guy too huh |
| 21:22.55 | nevcairiel | i dont believe in any of that stuff |
| 21:23.04 | cm100 | nevcairiel: HTML5? |
| 21:23.07 | arkanes | cm100: don't I remember you from #python? |
| 21:23.18 | nicoli_s | AS isnt too bad |
| 21:23.23 | nevcairiel | html5 is nice, but i managed just fine with tiny parts of javascript before |
| 21:23.24 | cm100 | arkanes: Dunno. I havent been there tho. |
| 21:23.32 | Pneumatus | web>1.0 is overrated |
| 21:23.41 | nicoli_s | you can also do flash in javascript, wonder if swtor will let you too |
| 21:23.52 | cm100 | Pneumatus: please explain yourself. What you typed made perfect sense. |
| 21:24.04 | arkanes | nicoli_s: javascript and actionscript are essentially the same language |
| 21:24.15 | Pneumatus | >web1.0 is overrated then, if you'd prefer |
| 21:24.19 | nicoli_s | its all ecma right? |
| 21:24.21 | arkanes | nicoli_s: the main distinction being the environment and the root object |
| 21:24.33 | cm100 | Pneumatus: >web1.0 <-- what does that mean? |
| 21:24.34 | ckknight | ecmascript = javascript without the DOM, basically |
| 21:24.41 | onaforeignshore | html finalisation date is somewhere in 2020's |
| 21:24.42 | nicoli_s | yar thats what i figured |
| 21:24.42 | ckknight | cm100: web 2.0 and above |
| 21:24.44 | arkanes | well if you're going to be strict abot it there's not really a thing you can point to and call "javascript" |
| 21:24.47 | onaforeignshore | *html 5 |
| 21:24.50 | arkanes | since all the implementations vary slightly |
| 21:25.23 | arkanes | and there's no standard beyond the ecmascript one, which is sort like the sql standard in that the interesting thing about implementations is how they vary from it |
| 21:25.55 | cm100 | like JS |
| 21:26.46 | cm100 | arkanes: apart from the script tag in html |
| 21:27.07 | Arrowmaster | thats not even standard |
| 21:27.19 | cm100 | i kinda sure it is |
| 21:28.01 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/scripts.html |
| 21:28.02 | Arrowmaster | if it was then there wouldnt be a need work around different browsers in javascript |
| 21:28.38 | cm100 | Arrowmaster: You only need one script tag, there are no other versions of it, depending on the browser |
| 21:28.56 | onaforeignshore | may be a w3c standard but the implementation of each browser is different, not to mention the "added extras" each one uses |
| 21:29.27 | Arrowmaster | like all the comments that arent really comments |
| 21:29.41 | Arrowmaster | somebody should die for that |
| 21:31.34 | cm100 | It's cool that you can earn points by uploading addons to curse, but i heard someone said "i dont get any points" - why was that? |
| 21:32.10 | Arrowmaster | its an opt-in system |
| 21:32.54 | cm100 | opt-in? |
| 21:33.02 | Torhal | You have to say that you WANT points |
| 21:33.05 | Torhal | And agree to the terms |
| 21:33.30 | Shefki | I don't recall every opting in. |
| 21:33.31 | cm100 | are there any certain terms to it? |
| 21:33.57 | Torhal | Shefki: Interesting. I do. :) |
| 21:34.09 | Torhal | cm100: Tax stuff, other fine print. The usual. |
| 21:34.11 | Shefki | Torhal: ckknight may have opted me in... |
| 21:34.15 | Torhal | Shefki: True. |
| 21:34.35 | ckknight | Shefki: worst case, give your points to someone else |
| 21:35.20 | Shefki | Hey I'm not complaining. |
| 21:35.49 | cm100 | ckknight: you are allowed to do that? give your points to someone else? |
| 21:35.58 | ckknight | they're your points |
| 21:36.07 | ckknight | why shouldn't you be able to do what you want with them? |
| 21:36.14 | cm100 | several reasons |
| 21:36.45 | ckknight | oh? |
| 21:36.50 | SunTsu | could you please prefix replies with it's name, so /ignore -replies will match? ;) |
| 21:37.02 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 21:37.11 | cm100 | ckknight: do you know any other sites that you can do that in? |
| 21:37.18 | Xtek | Shefki, I'll take your poinjts. It's tough... but someone has to do it I guess. |
| 21:37.21 | Torhal | ... |
| 21:37.24 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.35 | ckknight | cm100: I don't care about other sites |
| 21:37.59 | cm100 | ckknight: You should, its a good idea to keep up with other sites. |
| 21:38.03 | Xtek | lol |
| 21:38.07 | ckknight | that's it |
| 21:38.09 | ckknight | you don't belong here |
| 21:38.12 | cm100 | ? |
| 21:38.17 | Xtek | Talking to you makes me feel better about myself. |
| 21:38.17 | ckknight | go away, cm100 |
| 21:38.22 | Xtek | It's like going to a state fair. |
| 21:38.24 | ckknight | unless you have something positive to contribute |
| 21:38.28 | ckknight | and show that you're not actually a troll |
| 21:38.47 | Shefki | cm100: What you're doing is a bit like the Denver Broncos coach hanging out in the Kansas City Chief's player lounge. |
| 21:38.48 | Pneumatus | it could be fisker in disguise! |
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| 21:39.06 | Xtek | But ckknight, that's not keepng up with other users! |
| 21:39.18 | Xtek | You're not basting the turkey by boiling the ocean. |
| 21:39.24 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 04v0.5-beta * 22f33ae /: [new tag] tagging as v0.5-beta, lots of new features |
| 21:40.17 | Shefki | ckknight: Myspace lets you put music on your personal page, how can I do that on my author page on wowace? |
| 21:40.57 | Torhal | Shefki: Fuck that. I want my personal page to make other people's eyes bleed and throw epileptics into seizures. |
| 21:41.17 | Shefki | Torhal: But I want their ears to bleed. Not their eyes. |
| 21:41.34 | arkanes | why stop with just one orifice |
| 21:41.49 | Shefki | Because they need their eyes to view the ads to pay for the site, duhh |
| 21:42.13 | Torhal | Shefki: Damn it. Logic again. |
| 21:42.14 | Shefki | Make a site for blind people and try to sell banner ads for it and tell me how it goes. |
| 21:42.45 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: who do you think is responsible for all the talking ads? |
| 21:43.12 | cm100 | is totally lost in the discussion |
| 21:43.16 | arkanes | I just assumed it was sadistic babyrapers |
| 21:43.21 | Shefki | I'm sure the target market for "You've just won" ads is blind people. You got me. |
| 21:43.33 | arkanes | it never occurred to me that it would be *blind* sadistic babyrapers |
| 21:44.00 | Xtek | It's almost like babies in a blender. |
| 21:46.29 | Xtek | ... I didn't say the blender was on. |
| 21:47.16 | Torhal | But you thought it! |
| 21:50.11 | Axodious | does anyone know what the d3d9ex value for gxApi does? |
| 21:50.27 | Axodious | room mate is getting random crashes in wow and a blue poster suggested that |
| 21:50.37 | arkanes | uses a different graphics engine |
| 21:50.44 | cm100 | suggsted what? |
| 21:50.46 | arkanes | specifically a new one based on directX 9 features |
| 21:51.25 | steev | damn you curse! |
| 21:51.40 | steev | your news section always gets me off track of what i came to the site for |
| 21:53.32 | Axodious | cm100 suggested changing gxApi to that |
| 21:54.06 | koaschten | so whats the votekick command on irc? |
| 21:54.14 | chiper | laughs |
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| 21:56.52 | Shadowed | fss |
| 21:57.02 | Shadowed | stupid type for tickets needs to not wipe the description if you change it after entering something |
| 21:58.05 | steev | Axodious: its XP only iirc (or at least, that is where you'd see the most benefit) |
| 22:00.15 | pompy | Shadowed: thats cuz of the templates :x |
| 22:00.23 | onaforeignshore | steev/Axodious though it did improve on Vista Premium as well |
| 22:00.58 | Gagorian | Can any demonology warlock tell me if the new Demonic Pact is a 5% multiplier bonus or just 5% spell power? |
| 22:01.25 | Axodious | ? |
| 22:01.35 | Axodious | don't understand Gagorian |
| 22:02.18 | Megalon | Gagorian: 5% more damage with spells |
| 22:02.47 | Megalon | if it increases spell power |
| 22:02.52 | pompy | Gagorian: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48090 |
| 22:02.58 | Megalon | then the tooltip states: 'spell power' ;) |
| 22:03.52 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47240 is the talent |
| 22:03.53 | Axodious | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47240 |
| 22:03.55 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: my warlock is speced demonology! but the account is expired now.... |
| 22:04.03 | Axodious | Apply Aura: Mod Dmg % |
| 22:04.19 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Tokrim |
| 22:04.30 | Arrowmaster | i had some fun with the armory before it expired |
| 22:04.49 | Axodious | i just checked manually |
| 22:04.54 | Megalon | it is always just a modifier to damage |
| 22:04.55 | Axodious | it's multiplier |
| 22:04.58 | Megalon | all those talents |
| 22:05.12 | Gagorian | Oh I never trust what the tooltip says |
| 22:05.20 | Gagorian | Hence making sure |
| 22:05.21 | Megalon | the tooltip is right |
| 22:05.27 | Megalon | 5% more spell damage |
| 22:05.33 | Megalon | you spells deal 5% more damage |
| 22:05.38 | Megalon | not 5% more spell power |
| 22:05.40 | Axodious | ^ |
| 22:05.42 | Axodious | i hcecked |
| 22:05.42 | Axodious | ;o |
| 22:06.00 | Gagorian | Alright, thanks |
| 22:07.33 | Gagorian | Now I only need to know if it's additive or multiplicative :p |
| 22:08.18 | arkanes | almost certainly the latter |
| 22:09.45 | Gagorian | Well, Malediction is multiplicative but the other final modifier talents are additive for locks |
| 22:10.00 | Gagorian | And that tells me exactly... nothing |
| 22:10.22 | arkanes | sounds like its time to shoot some target dummies |
| 22:10.47 | Megalon | which talents gagorian? |
| 22:10.49 | Gagorian | Problem being not actually having an account :p |
| 22:10.56 | SunTsu | arkanes: Gagorian certainly is asking for DrDamage, not for his lock |
| 22:11.02 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.1-6-ga06dc3c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 22:11.04 | Repo | a06dc3c: Trying a fix for a c-stack overflow if a bad table is returned |
| 22:11.05 | Repo | 6d19758: Darkmoon Card: Greatness (90 Spirit) is now flagged as a Caster (Spirit) item |
| 22:11.15 | Megalon | http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/source/browse/trunk/engine/sc_warlock.cpp |
| 22:11.28 | orionshock | tekkub, are you useing the new GetQuestsCompleted() in tourguide? |
| 22:11.34 | arkanes | hmm |
| 22:11.42 | arkanes | I actually have a level 60 lock I haven't played in ages |
| 22:11.43 | Gagorian | Megalon: Well, that's not guaranteed to be reliable |
| 22:11.57 | Gagorian | I've found several errors there |
| 22:12.24 | Megalon | which errors |
| 22:12.44 | arkanes | ooh, I'm level 61 |
| 22:13.29 | Torhal | orionshock: I remember reading that he'd converted it to use that while the system was still on the PTR. |
| 22:13.29 | Gagorian | I haven't written them down, and it's possible they are fixed now |
| 22:13.38 | Gagorian | I don't care about SimulationCraft really so I haven't bothered |
| 22:14.15 | Gagorian | But I've used it as one source occasionally, but nothing beats actual test data |
| 22:14.16 | steev | onaforeignshore: i play on 7 or in Wine |
| 22:14.38 | orionshock | Torhal, so did i, but i don't see that particular api call in his code anywhere. I altered my local copy with a quick hack to use it & it works :) |
| 22:14.46 | arkanes | Gagorian: whats another talent that should be either additive or not with it? |
| 22:15.18 | Gagorian | Any other that can be picked |
| 22:15.48 | Gagorian | But luckily the behaviour should be the same for all interactions so, you just need to test one |
| 22:15.55 | arkanes | there doesn't seem to be anything else in demo |
| 22:15.55 | Torhal | orionshock: Hrm. Weird that it didn't make it to the final version, unless he didn't push what he has on github yet |
| 22:16.03 | arkanes | except the buff from meta, I guess? |
| 22:16.15 | Gagorian | arkanes: Don't think so either, but destro and affli has |
| 22:16.32 | orionshock | Torhal, quite possible. |
| 22:16.36 | Gagorian | For example Aftermath could be easy to check with |
| 22:16.41 | arkanes | Gagorian: I'm only level 61, so I can't go deep enough in those trees to get one |
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| 22:17.17 | arkanes | :( |
| 22:17.38 | Gagorian | Not even improved coa? |
| 22:17.56 | Gagorian | it's not ideal but should be workable |
| 22:18.03 | arkanes | could test improved corruption I guess |
| 22:18.13 | arkanes | or yeah coa would be better |
| 22:18.47 | Gagorian | As far as I know imp. coa is additive so |
| 22:19.09 | onaforeignshore | steev: I'm on 7 too |
| 22:19.33 | Gagorian | So comparing a 2/2 imp. coa, full duration coa damage to a 2/2 imp. coa + demonic pact one should do the trick |
| 22:19.46 | Gagorian | as long as there's enough spellpower to make a noticeable difference |
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| 22:21.22 | arkanes | I'll see what happens |
| 22:21.36 | arkanes | I don't have much spellpower either, I abandoned this toon before BC launched :P |
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| 22:22.12 | Gagorian | The difference is only 0.5% so it's not ideal to have low spelldamage for the test :) |
| 22:22.26 | Tuller | today's fun user comment: "Do not like the new look of the guild bank. Please change this back. it looks too much like the regular personal bank and can get confused too easily. it looks really bad." |
| 22:23.00 | arkanes | haha don't even have my elite mount |
| 22:23.08 | durcyn | tuller, will you do me a favor |
| 22:23.17 | durcyn | tell that guy to kill himself, please |
| 22:23.54 | arkanes | huh they increased the minimum cost of unlearning your talents |
| 22:24.43 | arkanes | ... I don't think I can get enough money to respec |
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| 22:25.24 | Gagorian | Well, don't worry, I'll figure it out eventually :p |
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| 22:26.27 | steev | onaforeignshore: you said "Vista Premium" |
| 22:27.19 | SunTsu | Gagorian: what spell power would be needed to see any difference? |
| 22:28.59 | SunTsu | I have a lock but he is really bad equipped, only has 1511 spell power |
| 22:30.42 | Gagorian | that should be enough |
| 22:31.26 | Gagorian | That should be an ~18 dmg difference depending on if it's multiplicative or additive |
| 22:31.40 | Gagorian | With a few casts it should be quite conclusive |
| 22:32.54 | onaforeignshore | steev: wife is on vista premium |
| 22:34.06 | SunTsu | Gagorian: OK, I'm going to test it in a few minutes |
| 22:34.40 | Pneumatus | any of you lot happen to have killed putricide 25? |
| 22:34.57 | Axodious | i hsa |
| 22:34.59 | Axodious | i has |
| 22:35.03 | Pneumatus | 2 tanks 5 healers? |
| 22:35.12 | Axodious | letm e check |
| 22:35.45 | Axodious | 6 healers |
| 22:35.50 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 22:35.56 | Axodious | 2 druids 2 shaman 1 priest 1 pally |
| 22:36.08 | Axodious | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-vxg1y6lva9ik5986/sum/healingDone/ |
| 22:36.08 | Pneumatus | we hit hard enrage with about 20% left with 5 healers :< |
| 22:36.21 | arkanes | it's a rough DPS check |
| 22:36.40 | Pneumatus | did you have some people focus on putricide and not switch to adds? |
| 22:36.46 | steev | onaforeignshore: ahh |
| 22:36.53 | Axodious | don't think so |
| 22:38.26 | steev | we haven't gotten past Rotface yet :/ |
| 22:38.49 | Axodious | rotface is tough on the kiters |
| 22:38.52 | steev | just baaaaaaaaarely squeaked past it |
| 22:39.01 | steev | s/it/Festergut |
| 22:39.21 | onaforeignshore | we killed rotface, wiped on festergut in 10-man |
| 22:39.42 | CrazyBenny | festergut is way easier imo |
| 22:41.20 | Axodious | Shadowed |
| 22:41.22 | Pneumatus | festergut felt like a faecrol |
| 22:41.39 | Axodious | EG is putting a ! on 2h weapons for dk's |
| 22:42.18 | Shadowed | I know |
| 22:43.16 | asmodai | Shadowed likes random punctuation ;) |
| 22:44.06 | Axodious | also had another more so request (not for a long time) of a "lite" version of the mod that coincides with my suggestion about tooltips earlier |
| 22:44.28 | Axodious | basically just have the tooltip hover that shows the poor information with smaller config etc |
| 22:46.04 | Shadowed | There's really no point in a lite version :p |
| 22:46.14 | Shadowed | it just makes my life harder to maintain |
| 22:46.18 | Axodious | lol |
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| 22:47.02 | Axodious | i wasj ust thinking of like tooltip of someone that points out the direct flaws with them and maybe a simple way (ldb?) to select the dungeon/raid you are trying to host |
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| 22:48.04 | Axodious | the only problem i see with it is the tooltip could potentially be pretty messy |
| 22:48.13 | Gagorian | SunTsu: Alright, just ask if you need/want any help |
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| 22:49.58 | Axodious | anyway afk |
| 22:53.46 | onaforeignshore | split into modules then people can load only the functionality they want :p |
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| 23:00.19 | Tuller | a lite version of an addon is usually a signal that the normal version is too bloated with stuff people do not typically use |
| 23:00.25 | Tuller | or a moneygrab |
| 23:00.42 | Tuller | (says the person who wrote a basic version of omnicc) |
| 23:00.49 | Shadowed | but we already know you suck |
| 23:01.01 | Shadowed | It's already a light version essentially anywya |
| 23:01.05 | Shadowed | anywa* |
| 23:01.07 | Shadowed | whatever |
| 23:02.04 | Groktar | pounces Shadowed |
| 23:03.57 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: I'm guessing you have a lot of ranged dps getting hit by bouncing ooze |
| 23:04.05 | NeoTron | at least that's one thing we've having issues with |
| 23:04.17 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: that's one of the issues, yeh |
| 23:05.06 | steev | all omnicc is needed for is to show a cooldown... if all you need is numbers and don't care about translations(lol i'm american i don't care about anyone else) - then omnicc can be busted down into one file |
| 23:09.59 | Tuller | if you do not care about a configuration interface, yes |
| 23:11.22 | SunTsu | Gagorian: I intend to use that specc: http://eu.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=9&tal=000000000000000000000000000023300330103500253313523105150203004000000000000000000 for testing without and afterward with 5/5 demonic pact. Would that be OK for what you need? |
| 23:14.01 | steev | what is there to configure? |
| 23:14.10 | steev | it shows a timer on a button |
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| 23:14.43 | steev | i can count on one hand the number of times i go into any addon's configuration panel |
| 23:14.46 | Pneumatus | "That player can not be kicked yet" needs to diaf |
| 23:14.57 | steev | Pneumatus: truth |
| 23:15.08 | Pneumatus | stuck in VH with a tank in dalaran, who hasnt even zoned in |
| 23:15.13 | Pneumatus | and i cant votekick him |
| 23:17.16 | Tuller | steev: colors and minor formatting tweaks |
| 23:17.41 | Gagorian | SunTsu: What spell did you intent to test? |
| 23:17.57 | Gagorian | It's easiest with a dot, preferably simple one |
| 23:18.01 | steev | Tuller: i suppose |
| 23:19.01 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r64 icon.tga: |
| 23:19.16 | Repo | I'm either exporting targa's wrong in Photoshop, or something... anyway, icon fixed (thanks GIMP!) |
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| 23:20.51 | SunTsu | Gagorian: you were talking about CoA |
| 23:21.07 | SunTsu | I unequipped everything that proccs |
| 23:21.09 | Gagorian- | yeah, but you don't have improved coa in that spec :) |
| 23:21.41 | Shadowed | Isn't there a way of getting the map in a locale independant way? |
| 23:21.45 | Shadowed | I could swear they added something to 3.3 |
| 23:23.44 | Gagorian- | SunTsu: Cause I need a talent interaction to know if it's multiplicative or additive, otherwise we won't know |
| 23:24.05 | Gagorian- | hence my plan of with and without 2/2 imp. coa |
| 23:25.15 | SunTsu | Gagorian-: I specced that, maybe something with export went wrong |
| 23:25.28 | SunTsu | yeah, it did |
| 23:26.41 | SunTsu | Gagorian-: http://eu.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=9&tal=000000000000000000000000000023300330103500253313523105150203004000000000000000000 is what I am testing |
| 23:27.24 | Gagorian- | looks the same as before |
| 23:27.47 | SunTsu | http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=9&tal=200000000000000000000000000023300330103500250313503000000000000000000000000000000 - damn copy and paste |
| 23:28.26 | Gagorian- | yeah looks good |
| 23:28.28 | SunTsu | copy and pasting between wow@wine and an terminal is not as easy as one might think |
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| 23:28.54 | Gagorian- | Run a few without demonic pact until you get a good average, and then spec it I guess |
| 23:29.29 | Gagorian- | If it's a flat 5% increase it's additive, if it's 5.5% then it's multiplicative |
| 23:29.30 | Gagorian- | simple |
| 23:30.01 | SunTsu | well, I already have a good average, because it'a always 4313 damage ;) |
| 23:30.09 | SunTsu | 7 tests so far |
| 23:30.23 | Gagorian- | yeah that's enough :p |
| 23:30.37 | Gagorian- | Dot's are usually +- 1 anyhow |
| 23:34.20 | SunTsu | now it's 4529, which nearly 5% to the point |
| 23:34.27 | SunTsu | +is |
| 23:35.13 | SunTsu | looks like it's additive |
| 23:37.03 | SunTsu | spellpower was 1817, by the way, which did not increase by speccing demonic pact |
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| 23:38.16 | ArrowmasterClass | Gagorian: i thought all this stuff was covered at tbc release, if it comes from a buff or debuff its multiplicitve, if it comes from a static talent its additive |
| 23:38.36 | SunTsu | Gagorian: anything else I can test while I'm at it? |
| 23:39.34 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Oh it's not that simple :) |
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| 23:40.04 | Gagorian | SunTsu: Yeah looks solid |
| 23:40.23 | Gagorian | Well, I got a ticket open about drain soul |
| 23:40.28 | Gagorian | I'm not sure what's wrong though |
| 23:42.04 | SunTsu | Gagorian: I wonderes about your drain soul calculation, too. It does not seem to differ between ds oder 25% and below |
| 23:42.12 | SunTsu | wondered even |
| 23:42.21 | Gagorian | Hmm that's a bug then, since I remember adding it :P |
| 23:43.02 | SunTsu | Gagorian: maybe, but your tooltip doesn't tell that there is such a difference |
| 23:43.17 | Gagorian | Well to test that Drain Soul thing you'd have to add a talent one by one to see what makes it wrong compared to DrDamage |
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| 23:47.22 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r65 DungeonMate.lua: Prep for 0.5 |
| 23:47.24 | Repo | * Update after loot threshold change |
| 23:48.07 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1178 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Added Demonic Pact talent |
| 23:48.08 | Repo | - Altered haste calculation in core |
| 23:50.15 | SunTsu | Gagorian: for me it's a little bit lower in it's tick predictions, while for the ticket poster it seems to be a little bit too high |
| 23:51.21 | Gagorian | In what spec? |
| 23:51.37 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r198 .pkgmeta: AllPlayed: |
| 23:51.38 | Repo | - Ticket 7 - AllPlayed-30300-2-beta-1.zip is missing AceGUI-3.0 lib |
| 23:52.36 | SunTsu | in the one I used to test demonic pact. I'll try that in affliction in a second, because the op seems to be aff himself |
| 23:53.09 | Gagorian | Well your DrDamage version probably doesn't include the Demonic Pact |
| 23:53.13 | Gagorian | so it should be 5% too low |
| 23:53.24 | Gagorian | Unless you already updated of course |
| 23:53.37 | Gagorian | I must've missed the talent change completely in 3.3 or something |
| 23:54.19 | SunTsu | Gagorian: yeah, right, exactly 5% |
| 23:54.58 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu 0430300-2-beta-2 * r199 : Tagging as 30300-2-beta-2 |
| 23:55.00 | Repo | Added missing AceGUI-3.0 library |
| 23:55.04 | SunTsu | as afflock it's right +- 1 point |
| 23:55.26 | Gagorian | well, I wonder what the hell that ticket is about then :p |
| 23:56.05 | SunTsu | ask him. If you need someone to test it with a specific specc, just hilight me |
| 23:56.19 | Gagorian | Well, it could be some soul siphon etc |
| 23:56.23 | Gagorian | that messes it up |
| 23:56.41 | Gagorian | But last I checked that was right too |
| 23:56.57 | Gagorian | You can of course try that as well if you have time |
| 23:57.04 | SunTsu | it could be proccs, the op said he only looks at it out of combat |
| 23:58.09 | Gagorian | Well, that's not very helpful then.. neither are average ticks with god knows what procs |
| 23:58.59 | NeoTron | 25/15 one |
| 23:59.16 | Gagorian | Well if you've played around with it with affliction spec and it seems good, I'll just put that ticket as invalid |
