| 00:01.01 | Zeryl | wow, that was tough, thank you freerefills for showing me the way! |
| 00:05.35 | arkanes | the main question with pally tanks is whether they are overpowered, or just extremely strong |
| 00:06.18 | Zeryl | arkanes, that is the quesiton, isn't it. I think they are just strong, not sure it's OP yet, but they are getting there |
| 00:06.49 | arkanes | AD feels overpowered sometimes |
| 00:06.51 | Zeryl | For speed/properness, should I create my frame using AceGUI each time that I need to display it, or should I create it, then just show/hide as necessary? |
| 00:08.58 | arkanes | if you show/hide it often, then keep it around, if it's a once in a blue moon type thing make it on demand |
| 00:09.21 | Zeryl | ok, on demand it is, it's giong to be used start and end of a raid, so once every 3 hours on a raid night |
| 00:12.23 | yoshimo | PProvost, i use gridstatusraiddebuffs for this ;) and keep an eye on people around me ;) |
| 00:14.33 | PProvost | yoshimo: yeah I thought I saw it before, musta been someone running DBM |
| 00:15.27 | yoshimo | as if it wasnt obvious enough.. you can even see the spikes healthbars |
| 00:16.51 | Repo | 10gmi-plus-lib-st: 03ddumont * r12 GuildMI.lua: try this |
| 00:17.08 | PProvost | tru that |
| 00:18.46 | yoshimo | seeing the spikes on grid helps healing but as dmg dealer you should see it without icons , if you dont, you probably wont see the icons either ;) |
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| 00:19.43 | arkanes | raid marks aren't too handy for it because it shoots way up to the ceiling |
| 00:19.56 | arkanes | can't see it unless you have your camera funny anyway |
| 00:20.13 | arkanes | since there's nothing else hostile in the room I just hit tab |
| 00:20.32 | PProvost | One of our healers asked me about it |
| 00:20.41 | PProvost | He likes to see hte marks on his frames |
| 00:20.50 | PProvost | I told him to just configure to see that debuff |
| 00:20.54 | PProvost | But thought I'd ask |
| 00:20.55 | arkanes | DBM definitely sets the marks |
| 00:20.59 | PProvost | Since I did remember seeing it |
| 00:21.04 | PProvost | might've been a pug though |
| 00:21.10 | Pneumatus | as a healer i'm happy just seeing the debuffs |
| 00:21.26 | Pneumatus | raid marks are for 'run away from this guy' or 'run to this guy' imo |
| 00:23.26 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * 0.14-beta-17-gd4cbf6b / (8 files in 3 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated) |
| 00:23.28 | Repo | d4cbf6b: Added raid notes file just so there are no errors |
| 00:23.29 | Repo | 5212c83: Visual tweaks to the raid summary layout |
| 00:23.30 | Repo | f9d517c: Removed position in queue identifiers as they are inaccurate now |
| 00:23.31 | Repo | 27486a2: Improved the inspect queue, should be much faster now especially when some units are out of range |
| 00:23.37 | yoshimo | in this case its a "run to this guy" if you are melee ;) |
| 00:23.54 | Pneumatus | nah, the massive spike in the ground signals that :P |
| 00:26.07 | yoshimo | i know |
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| 00:56.06 | onaforeignshore | Shadowed: just one question after reading Elitist Group description - and this is what I have against the whole show your achievement spam for pugs - "Some achievements are also factored into the score" - what if I die in the first 5 seconds of the fight and the group finish? I still get the achievement, even though I might be crap... |
| 00:56.33 | Shadowed | and? |
| 00:56.45 | Shadowed | You might have properly enchanted/gemmed 277 gear and still be bad |
| 00:56.48 | Shadowed | and have every single talent perfect |
| 00:58.50 | NeoTron | that's why you have trial periods for guilds |
| 00:58.57 | NeoTron | there's no way of knowing if a player is bad before seeing them in action |
| 00:59.21 | Zeryl | When using the code here : http://ace.pastey.net/131174 - can anyone tell me why running that function once, will show the frame, twice will show the frame (I assume because I don't prevent it from showing a second time), but if I click the "Close" button which releases the widget, why do I have to run the function twice, before I see the frame again? |
| 00:59.28 | NeoTron | you can determine if someone has bad programatiacally, but not if someone is good |
| 00:59.37 | onaforeignshore | Shadowed: true, was just curious :) |
| 01:00.42 | arkanes | you can't always do that |
| 01:00.53 | Shadowed | not true |
| 01:01.01 | Shadowed | You can determine the odds that someone is good programatically |
| 01:01.02 | arkanes | one of the best players I know joined our guild as a level 68 druid and got carried through kara for his trial run |
| 01:01.43 | Shadowed | you can't determine if they are good or bad, just the odds that they are |
| 01:04.53 | Bruners | Shadowed: have they fixed the SetFocus drop down ? |
| 01:05.02 | Shadowed | hahah |
| 01:05.03 | Shadowed | no |
| 01:08.27 | yoshimo | i doubt it will ever happen |
| 01:10.26 | Zeryl | found it :/ |
| 01:11.54 | pompy | Just how the bug that http://www.wowace.com/addons/interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate/ works around, will never be fixed :P |
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| 01:21.55 | onaforeignshore | Shadowed: would it be possible to add a collapse/expand all to experience, like the tradeskills window does? |
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| 01:28.55 | NeoTron | arkanes: programatically determing if someone is _bad_ pretty much requires max level |
| 01:29.08 | NeoTron | I mean leveling specs, gemming and enchants are rarely perfect or good or even present |
| 01:29.30 | NeoTron | one of the best players that joined our guild back in BC was a level 40 shaman |
| 01:29.52 | NeoTron | this was back in SWP times and shamans were hard to find - his main was a level 80 well geared priest but we recruited and geared his shaman instead |
| 01:30.22 | moop | Hey, been messing around for a while now to try and create a simple mod to tell me how much time is remaining on a refundable item I've purchased from a vendor - is there anyway to get that information without scanning the tooltip? |
| 01:30.32 | moop | figured I'd try my luck here :P |
| 01:31.05 | Axodious | gearing shaman for sunwell |
| 01:31.17 | Axodious | me and my room mate each 3 boxed shaman to 70 for brut |
| 01:31.17 | Axodious | >_> |
| 01:31.23 | moop | i.e. to display it in a small frame somewhere on my screen. since 3.3 I've been buying/refunding the ICC trinkets on an instnace-to-instance basis |
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| 01:33.32 | NeoTron | moop: naughty. :P |
| 01:33.58 | moop | well, I'm dual-specing between feral and resto a lot, and I like to be able to use both trinkets where it's needed :) |
| 01:35.20 | arkanes | NeoTron: we were recruiting him into a 70 raiding guild |
| 01:35.40 | Axodious | man that would be annoying in a raid |
| 01:35.44 | Axodious | 1/2 way through |
| 01:35.48 | Axodious | "brb rebuying trinket" |
| 01:36.54 | arkanes | Axodious: in ICC and TOC its no big deal, there's vendors right there |
| 01:37.07 | Axodious | hm yeah i guess you're right |
| 01:38.49 | NeoTron | wow. the "proposed" (subject to change) buff to destro logs is to make the imp do 15% more damage.. really? |
| 01:39.13 | Axodious | yep and they havent even fixed the imp cast bug |
| 01:39.21 | NeoTron | It's not like destro locks are only 150 DPS behind overall |
| 01:39.25 | NeoTron | that's absolutely nothing |
| 01:39.46 | NeoTron | would be perhaps 2% buff with my current spec |
| 01:39.52 | NeoTron | s/spec/gear/ |
| 01:40.22 | moop | by "imp cast bug", I assume you're referring to the 0.3sec delay between each firebolt cast, right? |
| 01:41.04 | moop | anyway, I'm playing affliction nowadays... but when ICC hardmodes come, I can't afford dropping SL and will be forced back into destruction, I'm sure |
| 01:41.31 | NeoTron | I measured it to be about 0.2s with my connection |
| 01:41.38 | NeoTron | I'd think it's related to latency |
| 01:41.58 | NeoTron | I've now macrod /cast firebolt into my spells to get around it. ugly issue |
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| 01:44.25 | moop | I don't really like that idea |
| 01:45.14 | moop | sometimes I need to switch target and nuke another mob, but I don't want my imp to dps it. i'd rather have my imp dpsing a full debuff target (e.g. saurfang) than his adds (bloodbeasts) |
| 01:45.23 | moop | debuffed* |
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| 01:49.12 | NeoTron | didn't say it was good |
| 01:49.15 | NeoTron | but it increases dps |
| 01:50.03 | NeoTron | but the macro uses @pettarget so it shouldn't actually change its target |
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| 01:51.29 | moop | oh, right |
| 01:51.49 | Axodious | /cast [pet:imp,@pettarget,exists] Firebolt |
| 01:52.45 | NeoTron | one sideeffect is your imp gets really chatty |
| 01:52.52 | NeoTron | like he talks all the fricking time :P |
| 01:53.02 | moop | jeez ^^ |
| 01:53.03 | onaforeignshore | imp needs a mute button :p |
| 01:54.28 | Torhal | onaforeignshore: Imp has a mute button. |
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| 02:12.19 | NeoTron | I admit I didn't know that demo, in general, appears to be outpacing/outscaling destro now |
| 02:12.34 | NeoTron | making destro the worst AoE spec (by far) and the worst single target spec |
| 02:12.58 | Axodious | no |
| 02:13.00 | Axodious | it doesnt |
| 02:13.04 | Axodious | in simcraft sure |
| 02:13.11 | Axodious | in icc/toc lol |
| 02:13.21 | NeoTron | I'm regularily beaten by a demo warlock |
| 02:13.32 | Axodious | how much more geared? |
| 02:13.35 | NeoTron | depends on the encounters a bit but I wouldn't say his gear is bad, nor that I play bad |
| 02:13.59 | Axodious | on say |
| 02:14.02 | Axodious | hmm |
| 02:14.11 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Aminai vs http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Arkangell |
| 02:14.14 | NeoTron | me being the first |
| 02:14.16 | Axodious | on aoe fights such as freya |
| 02:14.17 | Axodious | i rape |
| 02:14.33 | Axodious | on single target (think retuned patchwerk) i'd probably be equal with our best lock as destro |
| 02:14.46 | NeoTron | who the heck cares about freya? |
| 02:14.47 | Axodious | on aoe i beat aff locks hands down |
| 02:14.59 | NeoTron | aoe is demo(with meta) > aff > destro |
| 02:15.17 | Axodious | on most icc fights you should be beating him that or he is cheating |
| 02:15.30 | Axodious | ie, not killing bones |
| 02:15.34 | Axodious | or slimes on put |
| 02:15.43 | Axodious | cause when we have to switch |
| 02:15.47 | Axodious | theres no point in putting dots up |
| 02:15.50 | NeoTron | I do more target to adds typically, I'll give you that |
| 02:15.50 | Axodious | its just sbsbsb |
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| 02:16.06 | NeoTron | but there's always a point to put corruption up for procs. always |
| 02:16.20 | NeoTron | just like i need to put immo up |
| 02:16.39 | Axodious | not on bones on marrowgar |
| 02:16.43 | Axodious | you're lucky to get 1 sb off |
| 02:16.48 | NeoTron | also in best case scenarios a demo lock can ride the "execute soul fires" for most add kills after the first |
| 02:16.52 | NeoTron | naturally depending on the fight |
| 02:17.03 | NeoTron | and how is that different from a destro lock exactly? |
| 02:17.23 | Axodious | on marrowgar i can get off an immo/flag (sometimes CB) in 25 |
| 02:18.20 | Axodious | but yeah in simcraft demo is relatively close to destro so on such fights he might just be that little bit better at demo than you destro (not saying you're bad, if you understand) |
| 02:18.44 | NeoTron | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4zxfv28311oe48qe/sum/damageDone/?s=1881&e=2095 |
| 02:20.56 | moop | I'm having a bit of a problem with the following: http://paste.wowace.com/1608/ |
| 02:21.36 | moop | the problem is, when I'm the one trading the money to someone else, player == 1 and target == 0 |
| 02:21.41 | moop | and vice versa |
| 02:23.10 | moop | so player and target will never both be 1 |
| 02:24.04 | arkanes | I don't see what the if is supposed to be doing at all then |
| 02:24.59 | arkanes | however, what you said is not what the docs I see say |
| 02:25.09 | arkanes | it's 1 for either target if they've clicked "accept" to the trade |
| 02:25.33 | arkanes | so both should be 1 if the trade is confirmed and about to go through, which does make sense given the code |
| 02:26.01 | moop | nothing, because it doesn't work ^^ the point is, is that a bug or intended on blizzard's end? you can test it yourself, if you open a trade window with someone and give them 1 copper, your trade window will stay green, and then the trade window will simply close when the other player accepts |
| 02:26.25 | arkanes | I don't know that I've ever traded just money :P |
| 02:26.44 | moop | hmm |
| 02:27.04 | moop | let me test that, one second. if both parties are trading an item/gold |
| 02:27.58 | moop | hmm, same thing actually. I just traded a chilled meat to a friend for 1 copper, and player == 1, target == 0 |
| 02:28.02 | moop | but the trade was successful |
| 02:28.24 | moop | I wonder if it's affected by latency |
| 02:29.54 | moop | well, the alternative way is simply to check how much gold I have when the trade window opens, then check when it closes and deduct one from the other etc. |
| 02:31.25 | onaforeignshore | or change if player == 1 and target == 1 then to if player == 1 or target == 1 then |
| 02:32.00 | moop | that won't work. what if player == 1, and then the target closes the trade window without accepting? |
| 02:32.15 | onaforeignshore | and since 1 = true and 0 = false, it becomes -- if player or target then |
| 02:33.28 | moop | 0 is true, no? |
| 02:33.51 | moop | it's typically 1 or nil |
| 02:34.02 | onaforeignshore | Fired when the status of the player and target accept buttons has changed. Target agree status only shown when he has done it first. By this, player and target agree status is only shown together (arg1 == 1 and arg2 == 1), when player agreed after target. |
| 02:34.29 | onaforeignshore | so player == 1 and target == 1 will only be true if another person trades with you |
| 02:34.37 | moop | ahh, right. hmm |
| 02:35.00 | moop | well, that sucks :( |
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| 02:36.23 | onaforeignshore | TRADE_CLOSED - Fired when the trade window is closed by the trade being accepted, or the player or target closes the window. |
| 02:36.55 | moop | onaforeignshore: and since 1 = true and 0 = false, it becomes -- if player or target then |
| 02:37.06 | moop | that's not correct, right? |
| 02:37.35 | Megalon | lua> return 0 and "true" or "false" |
| 02:37.35 | onaforeignshore | if other player initiates trade, it's -- if player and target then |
| 02:37.35 | lua_bot | Megalon: true |
| 02:37.48 | moop | right :) |
| 02:37.57 | Megalon | if you are talking about 0 being equal to false in lua :x |
| 02:38.24 | moop | only nil and false evaluate to false in lua |
| 02:38.26 | onaforeignshore | lua> return 1 and "true" or "false" |
| 02:38.27 | lua_bot | onaforeignshore: true |
| 02:38.41 | onaforeignshore | it's 1 or nil - my bad |
| 02:39.14 | onaforeignshore | lua> return 1 and true |
| 02:39.15 | lua_bot | onaforeignshore: true |
| 02:39.22 | onaforeignshore | lua> return 1 and false |
| 02:39.23 | lua_bot | onaforeignshore: false |
| 02:40.29 | onaforeignshore | if it returns a 0, that would also be true, so you'd have to test for == 1 ? |
| 02:40.35 | onaforeignshore | or am I confusing myself |
| 02:41.18 | Megalon | you just have your head around it, that lua baically check if the variable is set or not |
| 02:41.32 | Megalon | if you only do "if var then ... end" |
| 02:41.44 | Megalon | only if it is explicitly set to false, or not set at all |
| 02:41.46 | onaforeignshore | true if var ~= nil |
| 02:41.48 | Megalon | the check fails |
| 02:42.49 | onaforeignshore | that's the fun when you work in different languages :p |
| 02:43.39 | Megalon | ;o |
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| 02:45.12 | moop | the main problem with how I originally wrote the addon was that it listened for TRADE_SHOW and then TRADE_CLOSED, and calculated the difference to determine whether I received or gave gold to someone, but when I, for example, received gold from looting a boss, the amount was incorrect |
| 02:48.52 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03mysticalos * r63 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:48.54 | Repo | *Work around combatlog bug for missle barrage/hotstreak tracking. |
| 02:48.55 | Repo | *Add tracking of 13% spell damage debuff |
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| 03:51.47 | Repo | - Now will delete legacy SV if delete request comes in. |
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| 04:23.04 | PProvost | wowace forums are down? |
| 04:25.57 | Trela | Seems they are, PProvost. |
| 04:27.19 | onaforeignshore | night guys and girls |
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| 04:42.55 | Axodious | hey, anyone having warcraft hard lock? (have to kill process) |
| 04:43.17 | Axodious | me and my room mate are having this issue quite frequently |
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| 04:54.04 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r246 / (7 files in 7 directories): -- Mining Run, Flask of the North |
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| 05:00.31 | Axodious | is there a way to delete filters in grid1? |
| 05:02.46 | Axodious | foundi t |
| 05:18.45 | Antiarc | getting data onto the clipboard - only via Ctrl-C? |
| 05:18.54 | Antiarc | Or could I invoke it from a user's click? |
| 05:26.41 | Shefki | Pretty sure you can from a click but I don't know how. |
| 05:26.56 | Shefki | Actually nevermind, Prat just opens a window. |
| 05:27.51 | Antiarc | Yeah, chatter opens a window, too |
| 05:27.59 | Antiarc | I'm just wondering if I could streamline bits |
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| 05:52.05 | orionshock | good morning all |
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| 06:10.02 | orionshock | @ping |
| 06:10.02 | Repo | pong |
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| 06:26.02 | orionshock | so are the admins away for xmas still? |
| 06:31.41 | Torhal | Forums should be back soon-ish |
| 06:31.57 | orionshock | ccv3 just came back :) |
| 06:32.25 | Kaelten | forums back up |
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| 06:47.55 | orionshock | yay Kaelten |
| 07:06.04 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r247 / (2 files in 2 directories): Potion of Nightmares |
| 07:06.06 | Repo | Clamlette Magnifique |
| 07:09.59 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth 04247 release * r248 : Tagging as 247 release |
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| 07:26.46 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r90 Broker_Currency.toc: Clear up some name confusion |
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| 08:30.11 | sb|work | Antiarc: can you do the same for teamspeak3? :o |
| 08:30.21 | Antiarc | Does TS3 support launcher URLs? |
| 08:30.37 | sb|work | yea |
| 08:30.43 | Antiarc | link to doc please |
| 08:34.36 | sb|work | Antiarc: http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=faq&cat=ts3server&rate=204#ts3_server_url |
| 08:35.05 | Antiarc | Ugh, that's more complex |
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| 08:57.28 | Repo | 10chatter: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.1.1-3-g62874d1 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add TS3 url parsing to the URL mangler, as well |
| 08:57.30 | Antiarc | sb|work: ^ |
| 08:58.18 | sb|work | yay :) |
| 08:58.19 | sb|work | ty |
| 08:59.09 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 08:59.11 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago |
| 09:03.14 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2500 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: changed Malygos mount |
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| 09:44.02 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r203 / (6 files in 2 directories): *3.02.29 (09-JAN-2010)* |
| 09:44.04 | Repo | * fixed - added more logic checks around the gold information on money tooltips to remove porential errors |
| 09:44.05 | Repo | * added - config option to change internal 'bucket' timers - how often the window updates when there are changes, default is 0.5 seconds |
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| 09:49.19 | sb|work | err - is the wowace reward system broken or is there a reason it stopped at 31. dec? |
| 09:51.57 | orionshock | sb|work, it's got begging of the month latency |
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| 09:54.57 | eblume | Oh, I'm not the only one that had that? |
| 09:55.04 | eblume | So it'll synch later I suppose? |
| 09:56.08 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.29 * r204 : *3.02.29 (09-JAN-2010)* |
| 09:56.10 | Repo | * fixed - added more logic checks around the gold information on money tooltips to remove potential errors |
| 09:56.11 | Repo | * added - config option to change internal 'bucket' timers - how often the window updates when there are changes, default is 0.5 seconds |
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| 11:13.28 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory): work started on tickets 16 - 24 |
| 11:13.30 | Repo | needed to update locales to start fixes |
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| 12:41.15 | Tentacled | Hmm. GetFileHeight() and Width() were supposed to be added in 3.3.0, and now that I found a use for those, they're not there in the Texture objects! Were these changes reverted or what..? |
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| 12:42.31 | asmodai | So, that "you're not in a guild" message. |
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| 12:42.45 | asmodai | How can I best go about tracking this? Shadowed mentioned something like hooking two API calls |
| 12:55.12 | asmodai | summons the wisdom of nevcairiel |
| 12:58.29 | SunTsu | asmodai: I just got used to it. The first time I saw it I immediately logged in again, horrofoed |
| 12:59.36 | asmodai | SunTsu: Is it the client or some addon you think? |
| 13:10.07 | yoshimo | i think its an addon, the you arent in a party/raid messages where caused by addons trying to use the wrong commchannel |
| 13:16.55 | yoshimo | I have a table in AddonsSpamFu that translates addonprefixes to addonname, i noticed StopAddonMessage copied it. Would it make sense to create a "libaddonprefixes" which provides this data and reduce work to maintain only one source? |
| 13:18.17 | SunTsu | asmodai: I think it's some addon trying to do cleanup on logout at a point guild information is already gone |
| 13:18.50 | SunTsu | asmodai: do you use AuldLangSyne? |
| 13:22.26 | asmodai | Nope |
| 13:22.54 | asmodai | ElitistGroup, Altholic |
| 13:26.50 | SunTsu | I don't use Altoholic and I had that message before using ElitistGroup |
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| 13:40.59 | asmodai | mmm |
| 13:41.02 | asmodai | *thinks* |
| 13:41.07 | asmodai | Gearscore? |
| 13:41.12 | asmodai | what else... |
| 13:42.05 | yoshimo | well wim is also a good guess causing problems like this ;) |
| 13:44.56 | asmodai | wim? |
| 13:46.47 | yoshimo | http://www.wimaddon.com/ , seperates whisperconversations into tabs and more |
| 13:46.59 | yoshimo | wow instant messenger |
| 13:47.05 | asmodai | Don't use it |
| 13:47.06 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/beware-of-phishing/ |
| 13:47.51 | asmodai | Mmm, Overachiever? |
| 13:48.19 | sb|work | asmodai: don't use it? why? :o |
| 13:48.27 | sb|work | ah - you don't use it.. nevermind :p |
| 13:49.00 | asmodai | :) |
| 13:49.13 | asmodai | I'm looking at my addons and wondering which might cause this |
| 13:49.31 | yoshimo | ive seen it only once, and was shocked ;) |
| 13:49.39 | Funkeh` | Please point out anything wrong with that announcement, besides th eugly fact the screenshots cut out the side |
| 13:49.46 | Funkeh` | =/ |
| 13:50.25 | asmodai | Funkeh`: got that bottom one today |
| 13:50.31 | yoshimo | if i get mails from blizzard i check the full mail headers , to see which smtp servers are involved |
| 13:50.41 | asmodai | yeah, in my case hotmail XD |
| 13:51.37 | asmodai | Funny, I never got an email from wcrealms though. |
| 13:51.45 | asmodai | Even though I contribute |
| 13:52.14 | yoshimo | the real one is something like eu-smtp02.blizzard.com |
| 13:53.54 | asmodai | I wonder when the guy(s) over at http://wowlevelingbuilds.com/ will notice that their content is not serving the build content XD |
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| 13:54.39 | sb|work | what? |
| 13:54.45 | sb|work | oh |
| 13:55.08 | asmodai | sends them an email |
| 13:55.10 | sb|work | well - design > content :p |
| 13:55.28 | asmodai | oh, it had content |
| 13:55.33 | asmodai | Google's cache showed it |
| 13:55.37 | asmodai | but it's expired now |
| 13:57.00 | Fisker | If i get e-mails from blizzard i usually just follow the accont recovery details they post |
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| 13:57.15 | Fisker | sure i'm not actually suspended or prevented access, but it must be true! |
| 13:58.40 | yoshimo | you can still login but the blizzard mail must be true ;) |
| 13:59.56 | Funkeh` | well i put the website it diverts to up for voting |
| 13:59.59 | Funkeh` | jsut in case |
| 14:00.00 | Funkeh` | http://www.phishtank.com/phish_detail.php?phish_id=906099 |
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| 14:03.47 | yoshimo | there are a lot of private computers in the list you confirmed funky.. how can these computers all run phishing sites... |
| 14:05.04 | asmodai | Funkeh`: registered that domain with his full name/address |
| 14:05.06 | asmodai | wonderful |
| 14:05.17 | Funkeh` | is it, or is it fake |
| 14:05.26 | asmodai | dunno |
| 14:05.30 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 14:05.33 | asmodai | Good chance he did it for real |
| 14:08.58 | yoshimo | asmodai, even if he did, what can you do? |
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| 14:09.28 | Funkeh` | bomb him |
| 14:11.07 | yoshimo | the email adress doesnt look like its worth the effort |
| 14:11.20 | Funkeh` | mmm :p |
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| 14:24.24 | asmodai | grrr, which addon is it :( |
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| 14:30.51 | yoshimo | you have too many addons if binary search takes so long ;) |
| 14:32.55 | asmodai | heh, 60+ |
| 14:34.22 | Repo | 10iccautopilot (experimental): 03DigitalSorceress * r4 / (9 files in 2 directories): ICCAutoPilot: Rethinking logic based on ICC layout |
| 14:34.24 | Repo | -- Changing tactics for how we determine where to go |
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| 14:59.04 | winkiller | @describe iccautopilot |
| 14:59.05 | Repo | winkiller: http://www.wowace.com/addons/iccautopilot/. ICCAutoPilot. Automatically chooses the right teleport location in Icecrown Citadel raid |
| 15:09.16 | yoshimo | if i alt-tab out of wow and come back in , my addon that shows how long it has been running, wents crazy. Is wow slower when you hide it , so the clock tries to catch up`? |
| 15:11.26 | CrazyBenny | yoshimo: maybe it works with OnUpdate, which isnt triggered when you're alttabbed |
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| 15:14.07 | yoshimo | it isnt? |
| 15:15.50 | CrazyBenny | then I have no clue :P |
| 15:15.50 | Arrowmaster | its not since 3.3 |
| 15:18.03 | yoshimo | i guess ace2 is using onupdate for its schedulerepeating event? |
| 15:18.29 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.4-beta * r92 : Tagging as v1.4-beta |
| 15:19.02 | CrazyBenny | scheduling cant be done without OnUpdate imo, so most likely |
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| 15:25.10 | yoshimo | ive so far created a scheduling event that ticks every second and increases the runtime-variable, is there something else i could try which would save me from crazy clock ticks after tabbing out? |
| 15:25.48 | arkanes | ooh yeah thats bad, don't do that |
| 15:25.49 | yoshimo | its a minor thing though |
| 15:26.15 | arkanes | whats your use case? are you just displaying this, or do you need to store it for some reason or in some way? |
| 15:26.34 | yoshimo | its just one line in the tooltip that says "addon has been running for x" |
| 15:26.50 | arkanes | store the result of GetTime() when your addon starts |
| 15:27.14 | arkanes | and then in the tooltips OnUpdate, update the text based on the current GetTime() |
| 15:27.17 | CrazyBenny | yup |
| 15:30.34 | yoshimo | wasnt there a time() as well? |
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| 15:33.03 | arkanes | yes |
| 15:33.11 | arkanes | I'm not sure what the exact differences are |
| 15:33.25 | arkanes | GetTime() is a float and time() is an int, but other than that... |
| 15:34.38 | yoshimo | gettime has decimals in its returnvalue, maybe a bit more exact? |
| 15:35.32 | asmodai | And another phishing email, this one is lamer than the other one |
| 15:35.52 | arkanes | I suspect that ones a float number of seconds and the other is an integer number of millisecons |
| 15:36.02 | arkanes | precision not really an issue with either |
| 15:36.26 | asmodai | yoshimo: heh, yeah, I notice that on Win7. Do some profession like 10-20 times. Tab out, back in after a while and you see all of them fade away :) |
| 15:36.33 | asmodai | the text notifications that is |
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| 15:38.38 | arkanes | can anyone suggest an addon for prayer of mending tracking? |
| 15:41.43 | Repo | 10iccautopilot (experimental): 03DigitalSorceress * r5 / (8 files in 2 directories): ICCAutoPilot: v0.2.0 HUGE CLEANUP |
| 15:41.45 | Repo | -- Totally changed the logic... made things lots simpler |
| 15:41.46 | Repo | -- If you're in Lights Hammer at the teleporter, it selects the highest gossip index available unless you override with alt key... simple and effective. |
| 15:43.47 | Repo | 10iccautopilot (experimental): 03DigitalSorceress 04v0.2.0_beta * r6 : ICCAutoPilot: v0.2.0 HUGE CLEANUP |
| 15:43.49 | Repo | -- After testing v0.2.0, I think its ready for its first beta |
| 15:43.51 | Repo | -- Hope you find this addon useful |
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| 15:49.01 | yoshimo | arkanes, what exactly should it do? |
| 15:50.43 | arkanes | yoshimo: preferably just a brick that has current target, time left, stacks left |
| 15:51.13 | arkanes | grid tracks it but i'd like somethign I don't have to scan for |
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| 15:53.35 | yoshimo | i have no idea but curseclient came up with http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/prayer-of-mending-tracker.aspx |
| 15:53.51 | arkanes | just found that one on wowi, looks unmaintained |
| 15:54.12 | arkanes | maybe I'll just hack on it, thanks for looking |
| 15:55.02 | yoshimo | its easy to help people if you know how to use google ;) |
| 15:55.34 | onaforeignshore | that's the one I use and it still works |
| 15:55.57 | onaforeignshore | it even has support for the 6 jump tier set |
| 15:56.26 | arkanes | comments on wowi said it didn't work in 3.3 |
| 15:56.34 | arkanes | I'll look at it, thanks |
| 15:56.51 | onaforeignshore | 2.63 works |
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| 16:10.22 | Venara | @describe iccautopilot |
| 16:10.24 | Repo | Venara: http://www.wowace.com/addons/iccautopilot/. ICCAutoPilot. Automatically chooses the right teleport location in Icecrown Citadel raid |
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| 16:21.40 | winkiller | anyone got a clue how I can make Tidy Plates (Threat) not overlap? |
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| 16:27.18 | Fisker | disable it in the options |
| 16:28.17 | yoshimo | who wrote the ts3 parser for chatter? |
| 16:29.58 | asmodai | Some people. So I am on this alt, level 8, no heirloom items or anything (different realm from my main and all that). Some lvl 17 walks to me and asks for 1g. wth is wrong with people? XD |
| 16:31.04 | yoshimo | i dont know, its not difficult to get 1g yourself ;) |
| 16:31.28 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:31.36 | kadrahil | curse client crashing in wine :( |
| 16:31.39 | kadrahil | 3.0 |
| 16:31.48 | kadrahil | bo |
| 16:31.50 | kadrahil | boo* |
| 16:34.53 | Pneumatus | anyone know if there's an LDB version of FuBar_RestFu - Shows a list of all your chars/servers with their play time, last played, time to rest, current xp, rest xp and logged out zone |
| 16:34.53 | Fisker | slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:37.39 | yoshimo | can you still remove the fpscap for background mode via config.wtf? |
| 16:38.24 | kadrahil | open source vent clients ftw |
| 16:38.27 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:38.55 | yoshimo | kadrahil, do they allow this? |
| 16:39.41 | yoshimo | or are you talking about mumbleß ;) |
| 16:39.46 | kadrahil | yoshimo: mangler |
| 16:40.19 | kadrahil | yoshimo: http://www.mangler.org/ |
| 16:40.26 | asmodai | yoshimo: Not quite at level 8 though :P |
| 16:41.28 | yoshimo | I know i have lots of money, but why should i hand it over to foreigners? |
| 16:42.42 | yoshimo | "Ventrilo is the de facto standard for guild/clan conversation .:" i doubt that ;) |
| 16:43.07 | kadrahil | it pretty much is in wow, you don't see teamspeak much anymore |
| 16:43.27 | kadrahil | one of my old guilds from like 2 years ago had a teamspeak server |
| 16:43.47 | Stanzilla | on my server 2 guilds or so use ventrilo, all others ts2 |
| 16:43.53 | kadrahil | hah |
| 16:43.58 | yoshimo | same here Stanzilla ;) |
| 16:44.04 | arkanes | yeah it may vary by server |
| 16:44.21 | arkanes | my firsts server TS was the standard, was slowly replaced by vent, and on my current one nobodies even heard of TS |
| 16:44.38 | yoshimo | im sure we will see a few changes once ts3 enters goldmaster status |
| 16:44.42 | Pneumatus | TS2 has horrible sound quality compared to vent though |
| 16:44.48 | kadrahil | i just found a ticket that said this client is capable of adjusting per user volume effects |
| 16:44.54 | kadrahil | but i can't find the setting ANYWHERE in the client |
| 16:45.01 | kadrahil | zz |
| 16:45.08 | kadrahil | oh |
| 16:45.12 | kadrahil | you just double click the user |
| 16:45.13 | kadrahil | haha |
| 16:45.23 | kadrahil | pro |
| 16:45.24 | arkanes | ts3 feels pretty good |
| 16:45.29 | arkanes | I've been playing with the beta |
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| 16:45.49 | Pneumatus | not had a chance to check it out for quality yet, and our vent server is paid for for another 8 months or something anyway |
| 16:45.52 | yoshimo | the only problem we had is that the beta is missing codecs for people with small upload |
| 16:46.14 | yoshimo | pneumatus, there is a public server to test it, if you download the client beta |
| 16:46.32 | yoshimo | dsl light sounds horrible at the moment arkanes ;) |
| 16:49.18 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03s8095324 * r2501 Locales/constants.tw.lua: zhTW update |
| 16:50.44 | arkanes | well I was testing it locally |
| 16:50.53 | arkanes | I haven't gotten around to testing bandwidth yet |
| 16:53.29 | yoshimo | our warlock fell in love with it the very first minute ;) well, if you were used to the version before, i understand it. |
| 16:56.05 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYPGnJdO1U&feature=player_embedded < ahah |
| 16:59.50 | Fisker | outburps Stanzilla |
| 17:00.40 | yoshimo | Stanzilla, that guy should take a break from videogames... even playing monopoly he talks about clantags and stuff :D |
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| 17:13.14 | yoshimo | is there a website that anonymyzes your armory data? |
| 17:19.01 | arkanes | how the heck do the blizzard debug tools register slash commands |
| 17:21.52 | Fisker | hax |
| 17:21.56 | Fisker | deal with it |
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| 17:25.56 | Adremma | from the looks of things, in FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua |
| 17:27.19 | Adremma | SlashCmdList["DUMP"] = function(msg) UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_DebugTools"); DevTools_DumpCommand(msg); end |
| 17:27.29 | arkanes | hmm |
| 17:27.39 | arkanes | awesome thanks |
| 17:31.08 | Tusk | hey is that possible to make group arranged in a grid way with pitbull4 ? |
| 17:31.25 | Tusk | you know something like two collumn and such |
| 17:33.19 | Stanzilla | yeah, pretty simple |
| 17:33.45 | Stanzilla | just use the units per column slider |
| 17:34.28 | Shadowed | hm not bad |
| 17:34.34 | Shadowed | looks like points went up a bit this month |
| 17:39.01 | Tusk | Stanzilla: thx gonna try |
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| 17:52.05 | quiescens | ~ |
| 17:58.47 | sb|work | arkanes: yes it does :o |
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| 18:42.02 | kadrahil | awesome, wow is working with full screen windowed mode in wine using twinview |
| 18:42.08 | kadrahil | so happy |
| 18:42.31 | Bruners | wow kinda works in all settings |
| 18:42.41 | Grum | except remote desktop! |
| 18:42.44 | Grum | they made that stop working! |
| 18:42.50 | kadrahil | i actually had trouble with it in cedaga |
| 18:42.55 | kadrahil | then i switched to standard wine |
| 18:43.02 | kadrahil | and updated to the latest one |
| 18:43.16 | kadrahil | and i have full support for my logitech gaming mouse |
| 18:43.24 | kadrahil | and my usb headset works in mangler |
| 18:44.00 | koaschten | hmmm anyone mind trying to login to eu.battle.net and tell me if its working for them? |
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| 19:51.07 | zoktar | was wondering, im using broker altguild to monitor online status of old guildys etc, is there an easy way to like clone the addon so i can monitor several guilds online status?. |
| 19:51.31 | zoktar | or if anyone knows an addon like this |
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| 20:01.24 | koaschten | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/01/09/0424230/Blizzard-Authenticators-May-Become-Mandatory |
| 20:08.46 | nevcairiel | asmodai: you summoned me? |
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| 20:13.11 | Groktar | looking for multitudes @ me |
| 20:13.25 | Groktar | i did the last 60 with 4 pugs every time |
| 20:13.25 | Groktar | :D |
| 20:19.10 | Groktar | i think perky pug has worms or something |
| 20:19.16 | Groktar | he keeps dragging his butt |
| 20:19.33 | nevcairiel | i so hate that pet |
| 20:19.35 | nevcairiel | its so ugly |
| 20:19.56 | arkanes | I stick with my core hound pup |
| 20:20.10 | nevcairiel | i used my firefly for a long time, its still very cool |
| 20:20.16 | arkanes | and I'm doing good deeds because every few randoms someone asks me about it and I can encourage them to get an authenticator |
| 20:20.30 | Aeyan | Still flyin' |
| 20:20.39 | CrazyBenny | like hyacinth macaw the best:) |
| 20:21.04 | Aeyan | My longtime favorite is the wolpertinger |
| 20:21.42 | Groktar | i think the pug is cute |
| 20:21.51 | Groktar | i'm up to... |
| 20:22.03 | Groktar | 6 pets now |
| 20:22.05 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:22.06 | Groktar | not including winter helper |
| 20:22.11 | Aeyan | I think I have 93 last I counted |
| 20:22.44 | Aeyan | The minipets tab was a good thing |
| 20:22.51 | Groktar | yeah |
| 20:23.04 | Groktar | i know i've thrown away a ton of pets |
| 20:24.22 | koaschten | i guess we will see free authenticator fobs in the cataclysm box |
| 20:25.26 | Groktar | hrm? |
| 20:25.35 | nevcairiel | They should really just do that |
| 20:26.25 | koaschten | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/01/09/0424230/Blizzard-Authenticators-May-Become-Mandatory |
| 20:26.54 | koaschten | i wonder what those account sharer will do |
| 20:27.03 | koaschten | or the level services :D |
| 20:27.28 | koaschten | icq (poor level guy) i got disconnected, please send me an current authenticator key. |
| 20:27.33 | koaschten | laughes. |
| 20:29.03 | arkanes | well, blizz hates the level selling services and they frown on account sharing |
| 20:29.13 | arkanes | so I suppose thats not really something that bugs them about it |
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| 21:07.39 | Groktar | when did warcraftmovies start looking so good |
| 21:07.56 | Groktar | video quality, i mean |
| 21:14.44 | asmodai | dunno |
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| 22:03.34 | asmodai | ok, so from a newbie warrior perspective, why would someone want, as Arms, spec into Deflection? I mean, the whole purpose is to get rage build up and inflict pain on the enemy. So parrying only starves you of rage, no? |
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| 22:04.01 | nevcairiel | ever heard of parry haste? :D |
| 22:04.07 | nevcairiel | although you shouldnt get hit |
| 22:04.10 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 22:04.14 | asmodai | nevcairiel: No, haven't heard |
| 22:04.29 | nevcairiel | when you parry, your swing timer is reset |
| 22:04.51 | nevcairiel | although not sure if its really worth speccing |
| 22:05.03 | asmodai | ah, so basically parry leads to riposte |
| 22:05.29 | Pneumatus | overpower |
| 22:05.39 | Pneumatus | although as arms you use overpower on every cooldown through rend |
| 22:05.51 | arkanes | getting deflection just for overpower and parry haste is a pretty bad waste of points |
| 22:05.54 | arkanes | (as arms) |
| 22:06.00 | arkanes | the talent is there for prot warriors |
| 22:06.29 | asmodai | That was my initial thought arkanes |
| 22:06.35 | arkanes | of course imp HS is worthless for arms |
| 22:06.41 | arkanes | and you've got to get up the tree somehow |
| 22:07.19 | Pneumatus | deflection is worth taking for levelling |
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| 22:08.53 | asmodai | ok, so I was looking at an arms levelling build |
| 22:08.55 | asmodai | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior#ZS3FPn7fvh6Otb1,,11159 |
| 22:09.04 | asmodai | so effectively you say, imp hs -> deflection |
| 22:09.20 | asmodai | Also not sure yet how needed Blood Craze might be over Commanding Presence |
| 22:09.31 | Pneumatus | get rid of weapon mastery imo |
| 22:09.36 | asmodai | I am assuming no weapon specialization yet |
| 22:09.44 | asmodai | due to switching weapons during levelling |
| 22:09.52 | Pneumatus | poleaxe spec, heirloom axe |
| 22:10.02 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Not assuming any heirlooms :P |
| 22:10.15 | asmodai | Don't even have them on this realm :) |
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| 22:11.02 | arkanes | leveling, you'll probably get more survival out of piercing howl than blood crazed |
| 22:11.16 | arkanes | and imp cleave ain't bad at all |
| 22:12.19 | asmodai | Btw, why did you state "getting deflection just for overpower"? Overpower is only on dodge, not parry. |
| 22:12.28 | Pneumatus | glyph |
| 22:12.30 | arkanes | wtf, why is there an extra didgit on the GUID I get from a combat log event, vs the guid I get from UnitGUID |
| 22:12.35 | asmodai | checks the glyph |
| 22:12.39 | arkanes | glyphed it procs on parry |
| 22:13.42 | arkanes | er, but wait, it's when your oppenent dodges or parries |
| 22:13.44 | arkanes | isnt it? |
| 22:13.49 | asmodai | yes |
| 22:14.09 | arkanes | pours a cup of coffee. |
| 22:14.13 | arkanes | see, getting deflection just for overpower makes even *less* sense now! |
| 22:14.16 | asmodai | So hence my question: why deflection? |
| 22:14.18 | asmodai | :) |
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| 22:14.43 | asmodai | So right now it would only mean damage mitigation and riposting (reset swing timer) |
| 22:14.44 | arkanes | because you need either 3/5 deflection or 3/3 imp HS to get to the second tier in arms |
| 22:14.59 | asmodai | Right, and you guys think imp HS ain't worth it? :) |
| 22:15.03 | arkanes | I suppose you might use imp HS for those first 20 levels or so |
| 22:15.11 | arkanes | it's really bad for arms |
| 22:15.53 | asmodai | Then I'll just keep the parry in |
| 22:16.33 | Shefki | Yay won the new fishing contest. :D |
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| 22:17.31 | ckknight | grats |
| 22:24.42 | Arrowmaster | arkanes: when youve got a big 3.x+ second swing time 2hand its much much more desirable to parry and get the swing timer reset than to take damage or dodge (dodging actually increases the swing timer) |
| 22:29.32 | arkanes | parry haste as a source of outgoing damage is essentially non existant |
| 22:29.41 | arkanes | especially to a leveling warrior |
| 22:30.02 | arkanes | although you do get those once in a blue moon chains and thats fun I guess |
| 22:32.35 | arkanes | there's no way to go from a GUID to a unit id? |
| 22:32.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:33.06 | arkanes | that's unfortunate |
| 22:33.15 | Arrowmaster | well there is but its a total hack job and i wouldnt recommend it |
| 22:33.33 | arkanes | polling unit ids until you find it? |
| 22:33.46 | Arrowmaster | no, tooltip abuse |
| 22:34.16 | Shefki | You can maintain your own cache to do it. |
| 22:34.41 | Arrowmaster | you create a tooltip and do tooltip:SetHyperlink("unit:GUID") on it (i think), then in OnTooltipSetUnit you check tooltip:GetUnit() and one of its returns is unitid |
| 22:34.50 | arkanes | messy |
| 22:34.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:35.20 | nevcairiel | its easier to scan unit ids for a match or keep a cache |
| 22:35.35 | arkanes | I'm catching SPELL_AURA_APPLIED to catch pom going up on a target |
| 22:35.48 | arkanes | and then I want to get the stacks/duration of the buff |
| 22:36.06 | arkanes | so UnitAura(UnitFromGUID(guid)) would be great |
| 22:36.10 | arkanes | I guess I could just use names |
| 22:36.13 | kadrahil | anyone play wow in wine? |
| 22:36.35 | Arrowmaster | i have |
| 22:36.58 | arkanes | I haven't recently, but many people do with great success |
| 22:37.06 | kadrahil | did you have issues with keyboard (WASD) movement causing weird character animations? |
| 22:37.16 | Arrowmaster | yes its an X bug |
| 22:37.23 | kadrahil | is there a workaround for it? |
| 22:37.24 | nevcairiel | thats a known problem, just ignore it :P |
| 22:37.27 | kadrahil | ok |
| 22:37.36 | Arrowmaster | turn off key repeat |
| 22:37.43 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 22:38.02 | Arrowmaster | xset r off |
| 22:38.25 | arkanes | bah and the fact that POM can bounce to pets makes this rough |
| 22:38.36 | arkanes | is there a library for guid unpacking anywhere? |
| 22:38.44 | kadrahil | Arrowmaster: ah, yeah i had a feeling it was repeat screwing it up |
| 22:41.31 | asmodai | Adys: Another one on the talent subdomain, Mage, Deep Freeze, deepest frost talent. Nice description. :) |
| 22:42.03 | Adys | I know |
| 22:42.08 | Adys | I linked you that yesterday :P |
| 22:42.23 | Adys | the talent calc guy hasnt been online for two days |
| 22:42.43 | Adys | nevcairiel: ping |
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| 22:43.42 | nevcairiel | Adys: pong |
| 22:44.28 | Adys | nevcairiel: see wowuidev |
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| 23:00.43 | Tigger | this may seem like a somewhat completely lame question, but when using Bartender4, how do I get the red ? button to display on the micromenu? |
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| 23:08.39 | jpmorgan | tigger - i think it does? |
| 23:09.22 | Tigger | apparently the entire Micromenu is missing, not just the icon. I get a LUA error when I disable then enable the micromenu bar |
| 23:09.37 | SunTsu | Tigger: then just tell BT4 to show it |
| 23:09.49 | Tigger | I think likely my first step is to make sure I have the latest version :P |
| 23:10.13 | Tigger | It was enabled, so I disabled it. I then enabled it and it threw an error |
| 23:10.43 | SunTsu | Tigger: yeah, that's always a good idea, but nevcairiel seldom breaks it that hard |
| 23:11.35 | Tigger | ..\AddOns\Bartender4\ButtonBar.lua line 209:attempt to call method 'ClearSetPoint' (a nil value) |
| 23:12.58 | SunTsu | then, please upgrade if there is a newer version, which I am quite certain of |
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| 23:16.19 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r191 / (6 files in 2 directories): AllPlayed: |
| 23:16.21 | Repo | - Use AceConfig-3.0 to get AllPlayed configuration into the Blizzard interface |
| 23:16.22 | Repo | - Support for the profile is still to come |
| 23:16.23 | Repo | - No longer using Dewdrop |
| 23:16.24 | Ingela^ | does anyone know why LibCandyBars makes the bar move around to differnet places, like sometimes to Ora3 cds, sometimes adds to bigwigs and things like that? |
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| 23:19.43 | arkanes | do you mean how it sorts by duration? |
| 23:20.31 | Ingela^ | no, i have a standalone bar on my adodn, and sometimes it just randomly jumps to ora3 anchor, or bigwigs anchor |
| 23:20.46 | arkanes | I've never seen that |
| 23:21.02 | arkanes | try making sure your bar has a group |
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| 23:21.32 | Ingela^ | *cough* group? |
| 23:22.06 | arkanes | oh hmm libcandybar doesn't have that |
| 23:22.11 | arkanes | candybars 2.0 does |
| 23:24.18 | Ingela^ | check this out: http://pici.se/pictures/QYKVNxAdb.jpg |
| 23:24.23 | Ingela^ | just testing my bar |
| 23:24.25 | Ingela^ | works perfectly |
| 23:24.40 | Ingela^ | then i go and do "test" on bigwigs |
| 23:24.45 | Ingela^ | then test on my rapture |
| 23:24.46 | Ingela^ | http://pici.se/pictures/JXGGqORJQ.jpg |
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| 23:25.17 | Ingela^ | bigwig anchor just stole it |
| 23:25.25 | Ingela^ | freakin ninja |
| 23:25.54 | arkanes | hmm |
| 23:27.09 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-5-g477047e / (3 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Add support for LibBossIDs-1.0 for classification checks, so that non-worldbosses will show up as bosses based on their MobID. |
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| 23:30.13 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r204 Categories/Characteristics.lua: |
| 23:30.15 | Repo | If LibBossIDs-1.0 is detected, use it to check for boss status for UnitClassification checks. |
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| 23:33.44 | Ingela^ | anyone that can pin point me to emphasized bars code in big wigs? |
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| 23:34.20 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-6-gc912711 Utils.lua: [+1 commit] try to Load the addon LibBossIDs-1.0 if it isn't loaded already. Note: not going to add LibBossIDs-1.0 as a proper dependency or put it in PB4 embedded, as it's mostly just nice fluff and we don't want to bloat up PB4. |
| 23:34.38 | Pneumatus | the irony ;) |
| 23:35.24 | vhaarr | Ingela^: show me your code |
| 23:35.33 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I think your mom talked about that last night |
| 23:35.41 | ckknight | Pneumatus: she may have been talking about ironing, though |
| 23:35.46 | Pneumatus | that would be quite a feat :) |
| 23:35.57 | ckknight | I like my women to do some work around the house before I lay with them |
| 23:37.00 | Vanish | I don't suppose you have access to user accounts do ouy, ckknight? |
| 23:37.01 | Ingela^ | vhaarr: http://paste.wowace.com/1610/ |
| 23:37.04 | Ingela^ | i'm so gonna get it now =( |
| 23:37.15 | ckknight | Vanish: what do you mean? |
| 23:37.46 | Vanish | I can't seem to remember the password to my account and the email for my account no longer exists, so I can't use the forgot password feture |
| 23:37.55 | vhaarr | Ingela^: you're aware that you are creating a bar onenable, right |
| 23:37.59 | vhaarr | Ingela^: I assume it's for testing |
| 23:38.04 | ckknight | Vanish: hmm |
| 23:38.23 | vhaarr | Ingela^: ah, you just use one bar? |
| 23:38.26 | Ingela^ | vhaarr, no i wasn't aware of that |
| 23:38.30 | ckknight | Vanish: I can help you out |
| 23:38.30 | Ingela^ | yes there's only one bar |
| 23:38.33 | Vanish | I tried registering a new account, but it took me to curse.com and never linked it up. |
| 23:38.39 | Vanish | Cool! I'd appreciate it |
| 23:38.41 | vhaarr | Ingela^: you only create it onenable, you don't start it |
| 23:38.43 | ckknight | Vanish: what's your username? |
| 23:38.45 | Torhal | ckknight: No firstborn this time. |
| 23:38.49 | Vanish | (This is for the forums, btw) |
| 23:39.00 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:39.03 | Ingela^ | vhaarr: okey, you think the Runbar() is enough to create it aswell? |
| 23:39.04 | ckknight | I dunno what to do wrt forums |
| 23:39.07 | ckknight | actually |
| 23:39.13 | Vanish | Shucks. :( |
| 23:39.41 | vhaarr | Ingela^: yeah the problem is probably that you never get a new bar but just keep the handle to the old one |
| 23:39.42 | ckknight | answer my /msg |
| 23:39.51 | vhaarr | Ingela^: try doing :New each time you need a bar |
| 23:40.16 | vhaarr | Ingela^: since bars are recycled |
| 23:40.27 | vhaarr | you're not supposed to have a reference to bars that have stopped |
| 23:40.31 | vhaarr | they could belong to other addons at that point |
| 23:44.03 | Arrowmaster | Vanish: did you have a curse account or just a wowace account before the merger years ago? |
| 23:44.23 | Ingela^ | rapture might procc 10 times at once, that would make you create 10 bars if i create it on Runbar() vhaarr, i believe that's why i just wnated the timer to reset everytime it proccs |
| 23:45.05 | vhaarr | Ingela^: don't worry about it |
| 23:45.19 | vhaarr | err |
| 23:45.23 | Vanish | I had both, but they never linked up and I couldn't log into either. Hehe. It's been 18 months or so |
| 23:45.24 | vhaarr | well, you need to stop your old bar then |
| 23:45.34 | Ingela^ | yes, how do i do that? |
| 23:45.45 | Vanish | I had to crete a new one (AmazingVanish) which works on both sites now, but does not work for the forums |
| 23:46.01 | vhaarr | Ingela^: :Stop |
| 23:46.02 | Arrowmaster | Vanish: you CAN NOT login on the forums |
| 23:46.14 | Arrowmaster | goto wowace.com and login, THEN goto the forums |
| 23:46.36 | Shefki | I'm logging into Arrowmaster. |
| 23:46.37 | Ingela^ | vhaarr, thanks.. i create a new bar everytime now, and it seems to be working fine, bigwigs doesn't steal it |
| 23:46.40 | Vanish | I have. If I try to view images, attachments, etc. in the forums, I'm told I need to login |
| 23:46.55 | Arrowmaster | then you must be blocking cookies |
| 23:46.56 | vhaarr | Ingela^: actually libcandybar was stealing it |
| 23:47.06 | Vanish | Nope. I block popups, but not cookies |
| 23:47.41 | Ingela^ | ninja candybars =( |
| 23:47.42 | Vanish | I can see 16 cookies for wowace.com, 4 of which are for the forums |
| 23:47.43 | vhaarr | Ingela^: when a bar is :Stop'ed, which happens when a bar is finished AND when you invoke it manually, it is returned to the world for everyone to use |
| 23:47.56 | vhaarr | Ingela^: so you need to do :New again at that point |
| 23:47.58 | Arrowmaster | Vanish: do you have cookies for curse.com? |
| 23:48.14 | Vanish | Yes, 11 of them |
| 23:48.29 | vhaarr | Ingela^: _while_ your bar is running, you are safe to just restart it or whatever |
| 23:48.33 | Arrowmaster | delete them all, for wowace.com curse.com and curseforge.com |
| 23:48.38 | Ingela^ | yeap vhaarr, a simple like if not rapturebar then stop would work? |
| 23:48.39 | Arrowmaster | and try again |
| 23:48.57 | Vanish | alright |
| 23:48.57 | vhaarr | Ingela^: as long as you clear the RaptureBAR variable in the stop() callback, yeah |
| 23:49.14 | Ingela^ | aight, i will start working some, thank's a lot vhaarr for the help |
| 23:49.17 | vhaarr | np |
| 23:50.00 | Vanish | That did it! Thanks Arrowmaster and ckknight |
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| 23:57.10 | Groktar | conspiring to group heal for all of p3 normal anub |
| 23:57.16 | Groktar | in the healer channel |
| 23:57.17 | Groktar | :D |
