IRC log for #wowace on 20091225

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00:18.47profalbertis it possible with oUF to swap party-frames when the partymember is in  a vehicle?
00:21.50Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r431 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update
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00:30.17Ingelahow do i calculate perfect ui scale?
00:31.00Shadowedframe:GetScale() / UIParent:GetScale()
00:31.19Ingelalove you forever!
00:31.23Shadowedor frame:GetEffectiveScale() if you can wait until PEW to position
00:31.44Shadoweder frame:GetScale() * UIParent:GetScale() not divide
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00:39.30Repo10priorityignore (experimental): 03Starinnia * r5 / (9 files in 2 directories): -add the other locale files
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00:55.55PolarinaPEW?
00:58.31Ingelahmm Shadowed why is it only printing my current ui scale
00:59.00Ingelai shouldn't have perfect pixels :S
00:59.05Ingelasince it's fucked up
01:00.56Groktarcreeps up behind Ingela with a rag and a bottle of ether
01:01.01Groktardrags Ingela into his van
01:01.06Ingelahides
01:01.08Groktardrops Ingela off at the blue oyster
01:03.06Ingela:(
01:03.17Ingelareturns Groktars 200 windows me workstations
01:03.56Ingelaor hm... effectivescale is 1, shouldn't that mean i got perfect pixelelerszers
01:04.04Ingelafucked uuuuup
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01:13.40ulicPolarina: PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
01:15.42Polarinaulic: :D
01:24.54Ingelahttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2824/87401145.jpg
01:25.02Ingelathis is what's left of my new screen port
01:25.08Ingelaanyone got some suggestions on what to do
01:25.30Ingeladon't wanna scale them up though =(
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01:30.04PolarinaIngela: Add full timestamps (such as 2009-12-25 01:30:03) to the chat. :)
01:30.15Ingelathat doesn't fix the gaps!
01:30.26Ingelathe chat is as wide as it can be
01:30.27Ingela:(
01:30.29Belazoratleast add seconds
01:31.17BelazorI would suggest you move action bars to either left or right and then stuff minimap on the other side
01:31.37PolarinaOr redesign from scratch.
01:32.06Belazoryou just want to see Ingy waste time
01:32.07Ingelascale them down, add omen + mini map
01:32.09Ingelacould work
01:32.28PolarinaIs Omen updated for 3.3?
01:32.29Belazorand a winrar is me
01:32.46Belazoromen doesnt need updates like that, it just steals blizzard threat shit
01:32.53Polarinalol
01:33.03Ingelayeah Belazor it was a good idea
01:33.14BelazorPolarina: a winzip is you for not knowing that
01:33.14Ingelabut i really like action bars in the middle :)
01:33.28Ingeladunno why though
01:33.43BelazorI like having 70 teen girls standing in line to give me a bj but that doesn't mean its feasible
01:33.43BelazorXD
01:34.13Ingelawhat?!
01:34.17Ingelathat's so wrong
01:34.38Belazorwhy, Im only 23, Im not some old perv
01:34.39Ingelawe should demonstrate, the right for every man to have 70 teen girls to stand in line to give you bjs!!
01:34.44Belazorrofl
01:34.44Ingelahahaha
01:34.46Ingelahahahahah
01:35.10Belazorseems like Im the winzip this time :(
01:35.15Ingelayeap :D
01:35.53Belazor<?php if ($user->userinfo['username'] == 'Ingela') { die(); } ?>
01:36.20PolarinaYou don't need the curly brackets.
01:36.33BelazorI like them, it's good programming practice
01:36.45PolarinaTrue.
01:37.00BelazorYou don't need to terminate your lines in Lua either but I still do it :p
01:37.16BelazorIm a nazi when it comes to those things :p
01:37.34StanzillaIngela: remove all the buff crap from your bars and use OPie for it
01:37.40PolarinaYou terminate statements! Not lines!
01:37.57Ingela:O
01:38.39Ingelabut that's not nice Stanzilla =(
01:38.43Ingelai rather have em on my action bars
01:38.46Ingelai always had them there!
01:39.22Belazor@describe opie
01:39.25RepoBelazor: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/opie/. OPie. More information is available at the official website. OPie is a radial action-binding addon, enabling you to bind groups of ...
01:40.00StanzillaIngela: saves space :p
01:40.42Ingeladid you read what my problem was?! i needed to add things for space that i don't want!!!
01:40.54BelazorYou minimalist motherfuckers is the reason why modern furniture is so uncomfortable, everything needs to be soo minimalistic :( YOU YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPERS, JUST WAIT TILL YOU GET BACK PROBLEMS!
01:41.19Stanzillalol :p
01:41.24BelazorOkay I think I filled my random quota for the day
01:41.39Nechcknrofl, very nice, Belazor
01:42.16Belazor;D
01:44.48IngelaBelazor, wins price for most related stuff :D
01:45.19Belazorhttp://motivateurself.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/4chan-party-van.jpg
01:46.14Ingelamajor faaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllll
01:46.18Ingelai've been fucking around
01:46.22Ingelatrying to get my monitor working
01:46.30Ingelaturns out it's a good idea to have the cable plugged in
01:46.44Ingelashould be illegal to use computers when drunk
01:49.16Belazorhaha
01:49.39BelazorIngela, you're beyond winzip, you are Nero Burning ROM.
01:50.54Belazorhttp://koltchak91120.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/double-facepalm.jpg
01:51.05Ingelaare you stupid? i'm minesweeper
01:51.07Ingelathat's what i am!
01:51.29BelazorMinesweeper isn't a bloated piece of shite that fails >)
01:51.39Ingelano it's awesome
01:51.42Ingelaand that's what i am!
01:51.51Belazormaybe when sober XD
01:52.15Belazoryou're gonna wake up tomorrow and be like WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO MY UI, IT WAS PERFECT AND SOME ASSHOLE RUINED IT
01:52.32Ingelayeah it got ruined by my 24" 2ms monitor!!!!!!!!!!
01:52.38Ingelachristmas is the fucking winz
01:53.01Belazorolol, dont remember what my 24" is
01:53.06Belazorthink its like 5ms
01:53.11Ingelai win!
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01:53.19Belazorthen again I dont give a shit, I had a 22ms 17" and I noticed nothing
01:53.31IngelaLOL
01:53.39Belazorif I had left out the 22ms that would have been epic win walk-in message
01:53.41Ingelanobody cares if you see anyting differnet
01:53.46Ingeladifference
01:53.51Ingelait's the fact that it is 2ms that counts
01:54.06Belazoryes, arbitrary number that makes no actual real-world difference
01:54.06BelazorXD
01:59.10Megalonhaha, yea, all those values in those datasheets
01:59.21Megalonarbitrary number reproduced under laboratory conditions
01:59.31Megalonthat will never ever happen in the real world
01:59.44Megalonbut nice to compare them
01:59.57Megalonbecause if useless number #1 is better then useless number #2
02:00.26Megalonit at least gives that subjective feeling of having something valueable
02:00.55Belazoras long as nobody is stupid enough to replace one 24" with another 24" whose only difference is said number, its all good
02:16.36Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r84 MorgBid2.lua: MorgBid2
02:16.38Repo-don't send loot comms when loot was not received by self
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02:18.05Repo-added Algalon trigger and chest
02:20.50chiperwow, I am very dissapointed with the Core i5
02:21.40chiperonly a 3.7 in windows 7's performance index.  dalaran still putters along at 8fps
02:23.40Megalon3.7 on the cpu score?
02:23.54chiperyes
02:24.02chipereverything else ranked in at 7.6
02:25.28Megalonmine (i5-750, 4x 2.67GHz) has a score of 7.3
02:25.45chiper... thats exactly the same CPU
02:25.49chipertho it's overclocked to 3.3
02:26.09Megalonno oc on mine
02:26.19chiperhrm, guess I need to try it without the OC
02:26.21Megalonso you probably fucked something up there :P
02:26.32chiperit's MSI's OC Genie
02:26.49Megalonoh that sound like auto OC'ing
02:27.00chiper*nod*  think I'll turn it off
02:27.07Megalontry it
02:27.16Megaloneven my old cpu had more than 3.7
02:27.29Megalonand that was a amd64x2 4200
02:27.30Megalon:X
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02:45.54Funkeh`don't be dosapointed
02:45.57Funkeh`at the end of the day
02:46.00Funkeh`it's only using 1 core
02:46.07Funkeh`wow sucks, not your pc
02:46.45Funkeh`i've seen top notch systems strugling to pull 20fps in dalaran
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03:20.26SunTsuDamn, Teldrassil/Auberine look bugged, gryphon masters go AWOL, using ship Rut'Theran -> Auberdine gets me kicked out in the open see, leaving Auberdinge gets me disconnected. Reconnected and I'm back again in Rut'Theran, with the gryhon master back in it's place. That happened to me tree or four times, with different toons
03:22.00SunTsuit looks like it already got disconnected while using the portal from Darnassus to RT
03:22.26SunTsuJust the client didn't realize it
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03:35.23SunTsuThanks, I was hungry anyway
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05:03.18Groktarforces you to watch all the csi episodes back to back
05:10.16fewynwhat's wrong with that?
05:10.23fewyni don't see the downside
05:10.55Groktarquestions fewyn
05:20.05Groktarforces fewyn to watch the last 10 minutes of star wars episode iii over and over again for all eternity
05:20.25fewynNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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06:29.13ShadowedIngela: UI scale is a bitch
06:29.18Shadowedif I remember from SUF it works like this:
06:29.46ShadowedIf you want scale to be perfect, the frame has to be positioned at PLAYER_LOGIN or later, you have to do it at PL if you want secure code to not taint
06:30.06ShadowedIf you load at PL, you have to use frame:GetScale() * UIParent:GetScale() to figure out the frames effective scale
06:30.18ShadowedIf you load past PL at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, you can just use frame:GetEffectiveScale()
06:30.23Shadowedif you load at ADDON_LOADED, you are fucked
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06:33.00RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/iccautopilot/. ICCAutoPilot. DigitalSorceress (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
06:45.53orionshockhttp://www.noradsanta.org/en/index.html
06:46.30orionshock^.-
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07:03.28Ingelaaight Shadowed i just added 2 buttons one with the frame:getscale() * uiparent:getscale() and the other the effective scale one... i had 1 on effective scale and the other one matched my current ui scale
07:03.33Ingelaso i should be fine shouldn't i
07:03.56Ingelathis was all fired just in regular world though, not on login or anything
07:05.38ShadowedYou have to restore it correctly too Ingela
07:05.48Shadowedyou save it as coord * (frame:GetScale() * UIParent:GetScale()
07:05.56Shadowedyou restore it as coord / (frame:GetScale() * UIParent:GetScale())
07:06.05Ingelao.O? i just printed it out
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07:17.53Ingela<PROTECTED>
07:17.59Ingelais it safe or so?
07:18.32Shadowedshrugs
07:18.37ShadowedI haven't tested with below 0.64
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07:54.40Ingela<PROTECTED>
07:54.40IngelaSet uiscale to 768 / game window height, that way you get perfect pixels.
07:54.52Ingelahmmm
07:56.49nevcairielindeed
07:57.04nevcairielthat converts ui pixels to screen pixels
07:57.14Ingelathat seemed to work
07:57.22Ingelahaven't got a pixel error yet
07:57.31Ingelafrom what i've seen then :)
07:57.57nevcairielIt only breaks if you start running resolutions above 1920x1200, since 768 / 1200 is 0.64 .. any smaller wont work :P
07:58.53ShadowedI hate UI scale
07:59.15Ingelagood thing i got 1920x1080 :D
07:59.48nevcairielew another of those 16:9 users
08:00.00Ingela:(
08:01.08pompy:(
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08:02.24Ingelano this doesn't seem right either
08:02.25Ingelafffffffuuuu
08:02.34Ingelamaybe i'm too much of a perfectionist for this shit
08:08.02Ingelahttp://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9708/wtffffl.jpg check this out.. this is with the  768 / game window height mehtod
08:08.47Ingelaif i move it 1 step to the left, it's a white space between em
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08:34.55Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r88 / (5 files in 3 directories): Added tag 2.0.22 for changeset 3a3175eb2652
08:34.58Repofixed localisation error in Responder module
08:34.59Repomoved version checking out of core and into Version module
08:52.52Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.4b-beta-9-gff4e81d / (4 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
08:52.54Repoff4e81d: optionally support LQT, copy thier GetTipAnchor() for the normal tooltip
08:52.55Repo9086613: add LQT support
08:52.56Repoce04051: reorder function
08:52.57Repobb24ab3: remove instance quests, as they are no longer in the game.
08:53.00Arrowmasteri dont think youll ever stop all the rounding errors since WoW uses floats and not doubles internally for all that stuff
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10:06.21KriLL3heh, just shot velen with my [Red Rider Air Rifle] surprise surprise, he aggroed and so did all his guards, not that they could catch me =P
10:10.06asmodaiKriLL3: heh
10:10.36KriLL3guess I'll have to get nekkid to do it in the more populated towns
10:14.51asmodaiKriLL3: :|
10:16.06KriLL3damn, I actually missed velen, need to do it again
10:16.28KriLL3had to shoot tyrande 3 times to hit
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10:17.12onaforeignshoreMerry Christmas! Geseënde Kersfees! Vrolijk Kerstfeest! Fröhliche Weihnachten! God Jul! Glædelig Jul! Hyvaa joulua! Kala Christouyenna! Buone Feste Natalizie! Feliz Navidad!
10:17.30KriLL3you're a day late for God Jul =P
10:17.59asmodaiHave I mentioned yet how much I hate game vendors who fuck up your camera (angle) at times?
10:18.02KriLL3God Fortsättning works though
10:18.20KriLL3asmodai: you mean game devs?
10:18.24asmodaiHappy solstice
10:18.27asmodaiYeah, sorry
10:18.28ShefkiWell I'm officially crazy.  I have both ammo recipes.
10:18.43Wobinso which foreign shore are you on, onaforeignshore?
10:19.01asmodaiI'm replaying through prince of persia, redid Sands of Time and now Warrior Within (never finished that one)
10:19.11asmodaiand jesus, does the camera control piss me off majorly at times.
10:19.20asmodaiDie just because they change the angle mid-acrobatics
10:22.23KriLL3asmodai: yeah I had that also, really annoying
10:23.26KriLL3btw new the prince of persia is awesome
10:23.41asmodaiWhich do you mean?
10:23.51asmodaiYou know they're working on a Sands of Time movie?
10:24.12KriLL3it's called "Prince of Persia"
10:24.21KriLL3and yeah I've seen the trailer
10:25.10KriLL3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Persia_%282008_video_game%29
10:25.12asmodaiMmm, the cel shaded one?
10:25.15KriLL3yeah
10:25.20asmodaiHaven't played that one yet
10:25.33asmodaiHeard that the new game will go back to the trilogy style 'n story
10:25.44KriLL3the combat sucks compared to the older games, but the atmosphere, graphics and platforming are far superior
10:27.00KriLL3you play it on a PC btw?
10:27.12asmodaiYea
10:27.46asmodaiNot sure if an analog controller would be better than keyboard/mouse
10:27.50KriLL3it is
10:27.55KriLL3I use the 360 controller
10:28.00KriLL3and I play it on 3 monitors
10:28.25asmodaiIt's funny though, I remember first time how long it took me. Now I completed it in record time, I blame the amount of games that have freerunning in them nowadays.
10:32.16KriLL3http://albums.kimag.es/albums/krill3/85688538.jpg
10:32.22KriLL3nice looking isn't it?
10:32.56asmodaidefinitely
10:33.16asmodaiI must say I love the art of Borderlands too
10:33.25asmodaireminds me as if you're playing inside a gritty cartoon
10:37.05KriLL3why does the level 40 auberdine guards aggro you a mile away?
10:37.19asmodaiPeople raided Auberdine like crazy
10:37.30KriLL3I'm 80, shouldn't even be able to see me
10:37.33asmodaimaybe that's why?
10:37.45KriLL3well don't think they raid it, I think they're going to darnassus, exodar or SW
10:37.55KriLL3same as me
10:38.50asmodaiI must say I like the story being told in PoP though with the whole time idea.
10:39.06asmodaiAlthough part 1 was a bit more lighthearted
10:39.25KriLL3I liked that part the best, didn't like the d-tour into emoland
10:39.42asmodaiHeh, yea
10:40.09asmodaiPlus, WW has this incredible shitty game play where not paying attention for 1 second gets you killed by the Dahaka or some other idiotic event you cannot predict
10:40.20asmodaiFollowed by the longer retry cycle. :S
10:40.41KriLL3yeah WW got raeped in reviews
10:40.47asmodaiSoT was cool in the "No, no, no, that's not right."
10:43.11asmodaiAnd what's up with the dialog scenes? The faces that looked pretty decent are now even more last year than SoT.
10:46.23KriLL3... Varian is a bastard, small room with guards on all sides
10:46.31KriLL3can't find a place to stand and shoot him
10:46.41asmodaiwhat the hell are you doing? soloing the faction leaders?
10:46.53KriLL3no shooting em with my BB gun
10:47.01asmodaieh?
10:47.02KriLL3<PROTECTED>
10:47.13KriLL3it's for the BB King achi
10:47.25KriLL3shoot all enemy faction leaders with a BB gun
10:48.19KriLL3the presents are under the tree i org/IF now
10:48.24KriLL3one is the BB gun
10:50.18asmodaiI haven't done any of the Winter Veil things yet
10:50.28asmodaiWill do that a bit later on today
10:55.27asmodai@$@#@&!(# camera angle
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11:04.33KriLL3oh yay, rogue sitting in Magni Bronzebeard's room
11:05.23KriLL3yes you're super imba for hitting me once before I got bangbanged by a million guards and the king himself
11:06.08asmodaiheh
11:08.01KriLL3oh yay killed me again, and I was naked yet again... pro
11:08.29KriLL3heh even used killing spree...
11:08.50KriLL3I got 12k health naked, and no armor what so ever... I'm fairly certain you don't need to use cooldowns to kill me
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11:10.57steevKriLL3: they aren't here :(
11:12.02KriLL3I know, just find it annoying
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11:12.44Fiskerhey KriLL3
11:12.46Fiskeryou wouldn't
11:16.05asmodaiWish you a merry christmas...
11:16.20steevKriLL3: i meant the presents aren't open here
11:16.29steevon 3 different servers :/
11:16.34KriLL3weird
11:16.46KriLL3only in org/if, are you there?
11:17.32steevyes
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11:18.28KriLL3the goblins yell, and there is a quest at the center of dala to talk to the great father winter about the presents, but I took all the presents before I found that quest
11:19.02steevheh
11:21.51Fiskeryay
11:22.30FiskerFacebook updated their login system twice yesterday, and my updated my nonexisting account twice as well, lastly they also release an account update tool!
11:24.37Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2483 Core (3 files in 1 directory): - Fix bug with 10 man loot button
11:24.39Repo- Fix small bugs
11:28.00onaforeignshoreWobin: I'm in the UK
11:29.58onaforeignshoresorry for the late reply, but I'm busy making Christmas dinner :)
11:30.50robotuschhrm
11:30.54robotuschminor issue there
11:31.06robotuschinvaded Silvermoon only to find Lor'themar Theron dead xD
11:32.33KriLL3heh
11:32.37steevonaforeignshore: christmas dinner is overrated, have em all make PB&J
11:32.44KriLL3btw you can shoot yourself in the eye with the bb gun...
11:32.46KriLL3stuns you
11:32.55steevKriLL3: that is freaking awesome
11:33.00KriLL3aka you're getting raeped
11:33.23robotuschah
11:33.24robotuschthere we go
11:33.43robotuschI feel sorry for the alliance mage that just popped up
11:34.01robotuschbubble+hs = every damn guard went for him instead xD
11:34.20KriLL3heh
11:34.37KriLL3I managed to dash out and free from most bosses, varian and magni were the hard ones
11:34.45KriLL3small rooms with a lot of guards
11:34.51robotusch30 mins until my next adventure :<
11:35.04robotuschhm
11:35.19robotuschCairne Bloodhoof should be doable without having to S
11:35.19robotuschHS
11:35.28KriLL3I missed magni my first try, and tried again while he was running towards me, missed again, then a rogue stunlock killed my naked ass
11:35.35robotuschxD
11:36.07KriLL3ressed, shot him, ran into an empty building, killed the 2 guards what were still chasing, HS:ed
11:36.44KriLL3no wait the gnome was easiest, go through the tram portal, walk forward a little, shoot him, take a couple steps back into tram =P
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11:37.13KriLL3escaped velen and the priestess without getting hit once
11:38.25KriLL3what's with random weirdos asking me to boost em in random instances for no reward or 10g?
11:38.32KriLL3why would I?
11:39.23robotuschI get them all the time as well :<
11:40.09robotuschthough one was particularly persistent, iirc he started out asking if I would boost him in SM and as of late, he's been wanting to buy a boost in UK or Nexus
11:42.04KriLL3<PROTECTED>
11:42.10KriLL3ignore? =P
11:43.55steevboost?
11:44.07KriLL3I just don't understand why anyone would think a level 80 player would bother boosting a total stranger, I might if I knew the person well and wanted to help out, but why would I spent time & effort on a random stranger that isn't even likely to appreciate it? it feels like they think they're entitled to get boosted, same as beggars think it's perfectly normal to bug me about gold
11:44.29KriLL3steev: high level player helps out a much lower level player in an instance
11:44.49KriLL3giving them all the loot, and so they can complete quests etc
11:45.03steevahh
11:45.09steevi've never heard it called boosting :)
11:45.19KriLL3what is it called there?
11:45.32steev"power leveling" or "running"
11:45.38steevwhere i grew up, boosting == stealing
11:45.48KriLL3imo blizzard should block the low level player from getting quests done when in a party and near a much higher level player, and not let them loot bosses the 80 killed etc
11:46.05KriLL3a bit how raids work
11:46.14KriLL3can't progress with non raid quests in a raid
11:46.18steevcataclysm will be interesting, with instanced azeroth
11:46.27KriLL3?
11:46.41steevphased*
11:46.47KriLL3it's not phased
11:46.58steevbah, i thought it was
11:47.06KriLL3once the cataclysm hits it's there for everyone
11:47.22KriLL3I think that's nice, they're going to have to re-do a lot of the low level content
11:47.32steevblergh
11:47.38steevi just realized i need another trophy
11:47.42KriLL3makes low level more fun, it's been essentially the same since the game was released, starting to look very dated
11:48.01KriLL3a lot of new players stop playing before they get to TBC or LK
11:48.08KriLL3since vanilla is very dull
11:48.50robotuschidd
11:49.07robotuschwhich is why I was quite pleased when the new B.net came out
11:49.28robotuschSince I could attach one of my old account with various lvl 60 chars on it :3
11:49.46robotuschIt's somewhat more interesting to level a new class, when you start at 60 with it xD
11:49.47Fiskeri don't like the wotlk concept of having multiple level up zones
11:49.57robotuschI lurve it
11:50.11KriLL3Fisker: errm, how is that any different to how it was in the past?
11:50.13steevFisker: what like howling fjord/borean tundra?
11:50.20Fiskeri would rather have that they made half the quests, and stitched it together as a whole experience
11:50.41SunTsuI likes that very much, because I hated Fjord and loved Tundra
11:50.43KriLL3vanilla has a ton of redundancy
11:51.18KriLL3you always have at least 3 choices for zones
11:51.21FiskerWell th at should be an issue to begin with steev
11:51.22onaforeignshorePB&J?
11:51.24Fiskerthat*
11:51.28Fiskershouldn't*
11:51.30Fisker:(
11:52.17KriLL3I think you kinda have to have 2 initial zones, since that's where you all pile up at start, hellfire peninsula was unplayable the day TBC came out, since everyone was there
11:52.55Fiskeronly because quests are grindfests to begin with
11:52.57onaforeignshorewe'll be able to fly everywhere now, which can only be good :)
11:52.59KriLL3lagged like **** until I got out of that place, and all quest mobs etc were zerged
11:53.32KriLL3onaforeignshore: yes, though blizz will have to re-do a lot of content, since they've used the invisible wall and instanced area etc to make the old world
11:54.00onaforeignshorethat's why all of it will be replaced and not phased/instanced
11:54.22onaforeignshoreall the classic content is being replaced with a flyable area
11:54.31KriLL3SW is a good example, it's just a square box with a skybox, it's not actually a town, it has no outside sides except the gate at one end and harbor at the other, and the castle is just a cave with a painting hung over it
11:54.54KriLL3onaforeignshore: no not one, they'll keep the instances, otherwise they'd need to beef up the servers a lot
11:55.42KriLL3I wonder what they'll do with the instance portal in SW, it leads straight into the mountainside, and the town itself is just a square room, it doesn't actually have walls, towers etc
11:55.58KriLL3I'm guessing they'll have to do a major re-haul
11:56.18KriLL3basically putting the current part that's there inside a proper enclosure, with walls, towers, a real castle etc
11:58.28Fiskerhaha
11:58.39Fiskerif you think the 2 death animations in a row was bugged
11:58.46Fiskergo kill npc's on the boat to darnassus
11:58.59FiskerThis npc played the death animation for like a minute until it despawned
11:59.45AdysFisker: stop being useless and gimme the opendns ips
12:00.25KriLL3Fisker: all mobs do that at random
12:00.57Fiskertwice yes
12:01.03KriLL3ah you mean more than 2? haven't seen that yet, and I killed those NPCs, didn't do that
12:01.19Fisker208.67.222.222
12:01.23Adysthanks
12:01.25Fisker208.67.220.220
12:01.42KriLL3the google version is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
12:01.49Adysim on google's
12:01.51KriLL3better imo, though they don't have filtering etc
12:01.53Adysbut my country sucks ass
12:01.57Fiskeronly one of them did btw KriLL3
12:01.59Adysthats not the issue
12:02.03KriLL3find a better country
12:02.06Adysthe issue is i cant access any fucking site :P
12:02.07Adysyeah
12:02.16Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1115 / (2 files in 1 directory):
12:02.18Repo- GetInstanceInfo() is robust at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD hence deletion code should now be hack-free.
12:02.33KriLL3I've set my router to use google's 2 first and opendns second
12:02.44KriLL3for extra reliability
12:02.53KriLL3not that google goes down that often
12:05.55Repo10recount: 03Elsia 04v3.3g release * r1116 : Tagging as v3.3g release
12:09.04KriLL3I just love the blizz bug where your combatlog stops working
12:09.12KriLL3kills recount as well
12:09.28KriLL3and reloading ui doesn't help, need to quit and log-in again
12:09.43SunTsuKriLL3: Yeah, got me three days ago while testing speccs on dummies
12:10.20KriLL3gets me randomly every now and then, you know it's happened when you only see kills in the log
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12:11.13SunTsuI normally don't see anything at all, because I created a combat log view "None", which ist default for me
12:11.23KriLL3heh
12:11.45KriLL3I got my combat log set up in it's own window and it shows the default
12:12.00KriLL3it's at first integrated with the chat window right?
12:13.08FiskerFUCKERS
12:13.12SunTsuKriLL3: yeah
12:13.15KriLL3is there an easy way to copy your entire UI including all addon settings between characters? I know some addons have profiles etc but that's a hassle if you got a couple of addons
12:13.45robotuschsowwy Fisker :3
12:14.17Fiskerthey killed wrynn
12:14.20robotusch:3
12:14.32Fiskerso i guess they're going to ironforge?
12:14.35KriLL3Fisker: I did yesterday
12:14.39KriLL3most likely
12:14.43robotuschprobably revenge for us killing the Belf queen
12:14.58robotusch(:D)
12:15.03KriLL3we failed in IF since slightly more than half the alliance population on the server zerged us
12:15.09Fiskerhow dare you call our king a queen?
12:15.18robotuschEasy, he's a Belf
12:15.24Fiskerbut this is beyond lame
12:15.33Fiskerfaction leaders have like what? 5 hours respawn time?
12:15.39robotuschnah
12:15.44Fiskermy hate level is increasing
12:15.46robotuschthe Belf one spawned fairly quickly
12:15.54Fiskerthen they changed it
12:16.05KriLL3I just need magni to get achi now, but I'll have to wait until early morning or something to do that I guess
12:16.07KriLL3or you get zerged
12:16.13Fiskeri remember back in the days when For the Horde/Alliance was popular people kept QQ'ing over being unable to turn in quests
12:16.19Fiskerand having to wait several hours
12:16.34robotuschFeel free to meet up in TB in a few mins Fusker
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12:17.22KriLL3I just wish the stupid alliance players in full pve gear standing behind guards and just aoe:ing would at least wait until we kill the damn dwarf king, then they can kill us
12:17.50KriLL3It's only polite
12:18.23SunTsuKriLL3: I think that would miss the point in defending
12:19.01Fiskerbtw KriLL3
12:19.04Fiskerguess who showed up
12:19.06KriLL3they're not defending, they're just taking the opportunity to get some free HKs from killing people busy with an elite and a lot of guards
12:19.09Fisker"Hordkilla"
12:19.17Fiskera level 80 rogue
12:19.27Fiskerand he couldn't kill me despite having like 20 guards on me :D
12:19.31Fiskerprotection specs ftw
12:19.41KriLL3heh
12:19.43robotusch^^ :D
12:19.52robotuschGuards are np in block gear
12:19.55SunTsuAh, listen up, aunt^wuncle Fisker is telling war stories ;)
12:19.59KriLL3I can do roughly the same in bearform + tanking gear
12:20.07KriLL3can swipe em all dead
12:20.26KriLL3infi-rage and no dmg
12:20.35KriLL3and he can't blind etc
12:20.53Fiskerwell stunlocking me would've helped
12:20.56KriLL3one of the reasons rogues that attack people that are killing mobs are stupid
12:20.59Fiskerinstead of mutilating from the front
12:21.03KriLL3lol
12:21.08robotuschxD
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12:21.40KriLL3most rogues start stunlock on me, I just pop barkskin and then trinket kidney shot, go bear, bash, fearie fire, lacerate
12:21.52robotuschlal
12:21.58KriLL3ff + lacerate = you're mine bitch
12:22.06Fiskeri just turned on ret aura and after half a minute he went http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB8iu8V99HY#t=0m53s
12:22.15robotuschwe're 6 or so standing around Undercity waiting for the Windrunner lady
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12:23.13KriLL3rogues are so cute, always trying to get away using vanish +sprint while bleeding
12:23.23KriLL3a second later they appear again and I charge em
12:23.43KriLL3infected wounds > sprint
12:24.52KriLL3I can actually kill a prot warrior/paladin, though with the pala it takes a long time
12:25.32KriLL3rake + rip + mangle + SR = nice dps that ignores armor/def/parry etc
12:26.05SunTsu.o0( Beware the two prot paladin's epic battle, from dawn to dawn - new year to new year )
12:26.59robotuschI had one of those in IoC once
12:27.52KriLL3I've had that druid vs druid in vanilla =P
12:28.05KriLL3innervate ensures no one goes oom
12:28.07KriLL3ever
12:28.35KriLL3winner would be the one to fall asleep last
12:30.01Fiskeryou have to complete the dk starting area right?
12:30.07Fiskeryou can't be summoned out and whatever?
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12:30.40robotuschyeah
12:33.15SunTsuFisker: so you don't want all of your talent points? Would be quite fun having only 40 or so in 80 ;)
12:33.25KriLL3<PROTECTED>
12:34.09KriLL3also you're technically speaking a member of the scurge until you complete those quests
12:35.00Fiskerjust someone who wanted to abuse the gifts
12:35.07KriLL3heh
12:35.07Fiskerand i was certain you needed to complete the area first
12:35.31KriLL3hmm can you even get summoned by a warlock with a new DK?
12:35.38SunTsuI wish I could go back there, getting more of those rune power potions was awesome
12:35.40KriLL3not sure you'd be their faction yet
12:36.24KriLL3a mage can't portal you since you're trapped in that area in a different phase than non DKs see
12:36.34Fiskergot it!
12:36.41Fiskeronly took 4 tries
12:36.42robotuschwat
12:36.52KriLL3got what?
12:36.56robotuschThen unflag yourself at come to UC
12:37.06robotuschwe're having a bit of a party while waiting for Sylvanas
12:37.09Fiskeri pelted magni
12:37.18KriLL3unflag? you're on a pve server?
12:37.40robotuschnah, but if he waits long enough he won't be flagged
12:38.02KriLL3you are always pvp flagged inside enemy territory
12:38.35robotuschFusker is Horde, I'm Alliance :P
12:38.49KriLL3ah
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12:38.58KriLL3that makes more sense
12:39.02robotuschI even put down a romantic love basket :3
12:39.13robotuscherh, picnic basket
12:40.11Fiskerfind ouf if wrynn is up again robotusch
12:40.21KriLL3I need to kill magni for achi but I'm not sure how to do it, we had a full raid and failed since we got 3x the amount of alliance there
12:41.09KriLL3someone spots you outside or in tram and tada, a million alliance in that room
12:41.21robotuschwon't be up for another 1½ hours Fusker
12:41.27Fiskerscrew you
12:41.37robotuschWas killed like 30 mins ago
12:42.11Fiskeri know
12:42.11Fiskerbut you said it was like omg fast
12:42.27robotuschmight just have been my luck then :D
12:51.37asmodaiKriLL3: I am about >< close to hunt down every single one of these programmers and do as horrible things to them as they did to me with this game >_<
12:52.03KriLL3you mean combat log bug?
12:53.48asmodaiNo
12:53.53asmodaiThese Warrior Within coders
12:54.00KriLL3ah
12:54.13asmodaiSeriously, camera angle bullshit is already tiresome at times, but hey, no stress.
12:54.13steevdo what
12:54.20asmodaiTry doing that with the bloodt Dahaka on your tail.
12:54.29steevthe warriors within coders?
12:54.34asmodaiAye.
12:54.38SunTsuasmodai: Just don't play it ;)
12:54.47asmodaiSunTsu: Fuck it, I WILL complete it :P
12:54.56asmodaiI will show I am the better gamer \o/
12:55.11steevasmodai: link!
12:55.22asmodaisteev: whut?
12:55.57steevSunTsu: i still have all 20 of mine in my bank
12:56.14steevasmodai: "These Wariror Within coders" - link to info on wtf that/they are
12:56.31steevminus the typo
12:59.00asmodaisteev: Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
12:59.21asmodaiThe coders for this game introduced, like in Sands of Time, some pretty fucked up camera angle handling.
12:59.42asmodaiSo here you are, swinging above an abyss, doing crazy shit and the camera angle changes mid-action.
12:59.50asmodaiTo name but one annoyance.
13:00.02KriLL3isn't that a feature?
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13:00.20KriLL3to show of the action better, but in the process killing you most of the time
13:02.08asmodaiKriLL3: hahaha, reminds me of the final part of Uncharted 2, where you are running across a collapsing bridge, where every moment's hesitation means falling to your death, when they decided, mid-sequence, to turn the camera to show you running towards the view only to show the terrific panaromic view of the temple behind you crumbling to pieces.
13:02.20SunTsusteev: I only have 5 left, Used most of them as of an accident, because AutoBar put them into "Health potion" slot...
13:02.29asmodaiDid I mention yet you have to perform at least one jump based on trial and error to see where you will survive instead of plunging to your death?
13:05.16SunTsuasmodai: No, you didn't
13:05.26Megalonplunges on asmodai
13:07.29asmodaihahaha
13:07.33asmodaiMegalon: noooooooooooooes
13:07.45asmodaiAt least Borderlands has been brightening my day ^^
13:20.22Fiskerkisses asmodai
13:20.36ckknightMerry Christmas, everyone
13:21.16steevwell that shows how often i login my rogue
13:21.19steevhe's still a turkey
13:21.26asmodaiYou wouldn't Fisker
13:21.32asmodaickknight: Same to you :)
13:21.40steevMerry Christmas ckknight
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13:28.10KriLL3why am I meeting people in full relentless or partial relentless at 1000~ rating?
13:28.38KriLL3and loosing a ton of points when getting chopped to bits by them
13:36.00asmodaiKriLL3: The system rates and values you higher? :D
13:36.17KriLL3I thought your team rating was the only factor?
13:36.23asmodaiDunno mate, honestly.
13:37.02KriLL3just don't understand why I keep meeting people in gear you can't get at my rating and then loose a lot of points when i get flattened by their seriously overmatched gear
13:38.39asmodaiSeems awfully unfair, yes
13:39.04SunTsuWhich is exactly why I despise PvP in WoW - it's mostly about gear, far more than about skill
13:39.20KriLL3I wouldn't mind so much if I met people with roughly equal gear
13:39.25Znuffand about class
13:39.29Znuffcries as a priest
13:39.35Znuffhate getting killed by rogues :(
13:39.37KriLL3Znuff: errm, you're one of the best classes
13:39.45Znuffnot against a rogue :D
13:39.48KriLL3...
13:39.55Znuff(well, I don't pvp anyway)
13:40.16KriLL3wow isn't balanced for 1on1 nimrod, you're supposed to heal a dps:er or more than one as disc in arena or do dps as shadow
13:40.30SunTsuI used to PvP in classic, but can't stand the current "resil > * > skill" principle
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13:41.07KriLL3SunTsu: true, though skill is more involved if you get to play people with roughly the same gear
13:41.09ZnuffKriLL3, I'm talking about casual pvp when a rogue just decides to sap the hell out of you
13:41.26KriLL3Znuff: well it's like that for most classes, not just priests
13:41.35Znuffif I go mine/herb/farm in WG, I got no chance against a rogue
13:41.45Znuffmy only hope is to fear him and run away :)
13:42.06KriLL3actually if you're disc/shadow you'd stand a fair chance vs a rogue if your gear is decent
13:42.16ZnuffI'm shadow
13:42.18asmodaiPffft, since when has PvP been about skill in WoW?
13:42.21SunTsuKriLL3: yeah, at least you can get decent gear from badge vendors, but still...
13:42.24Znuffand no, you can't stand a chance
13:42.25asmodaiAll of WoW is gear, gear, gear.
13:42.30Znuffif they start with a sap
13:42.30SunTsuasmodai: it _should_ be
13:42.44KriLL3SunTsu: I got all of that, but I just meet people in relentless when I try to increase my rating
13:42.51asmodaiSunTsu: Pipedream for WoW, doubt it will ever work.
13:42.52Znuffby the time you get out of that sap, you're dead
13:42.53KriLL3Znuff: sap doesn't matter
13:42.56KriLL3...
13:42.59KriLL3sap breaks on dmg
13:43.17Znuffthey stun, blind, whatever they do
13:43.18KriLL3if you get sapped wait until it ends
13:43.23KriLL3...
13:43.35KriLL3their initial stun is called cheap shot
13:43.40KriLL3their second kidney shot
13:43.58Znufffirst one is enough to burst 20k+ damage :)
13:44.01KriLL3but if you trinket sap I can see that you're doomed to get killed by them forever
13:44.13KriLL3no it's not if you got some resilience
13:44.53KriLL3I trinket kidney shot as soon as they apply it, then switch to bear and kill em, trinketing sap/cheap shot is a sure way to get killed
13:45.51Fiskeri trinket your mom :3
13:45.58KriLL3rogues aren't unstoppable killing machines, you just need to know some basics
13:46.33KriLL3and once evasion and CoS is used up they're very fragile creatures
13:47.13ZnuffCoS is cloak of shadow, right?
13:47.18KriLL3shadows, but yes
13:47.25Znuffyes, op :P
13:47.27KriLL3can see that one being annoying as a caster
13:47.42Znuffwish my dispersion had the same mechanism
13:47.56KriLL3does shadow have that cloud form thing I've seen some priests use or is that another spec?
13:48.11Znuffshadow
13:48.15Znuffit's our 51-pointer :-(
13:48.21KriLL3well use that during CoS
13:48.31KriLL3you can't hurt them, they can't hurt you
13:48.37Znuffactually they can :)
13:48.42KriLL3I cyclone/root them while they got evasion
13:48.44KriLL3yeah like 10%?
13:48.54Znuffwe take 10% of the damage, and get all the cool debuffs still applied
13:49.02Znuffslow downs, snares, roots etc.
13:49.22Znuffoh, wait
13:49.24Znuffthat changed
13:49.46ZnuffDispersion can be cast while stunned, feared or silenced and clears all snare and movement impairing effects when cast, and makes you immune to them while dispersed.
13:49.46ZnuffMy bad
13:49.47Znuffdon't really pvp much
13:49.53Znuffjust use it as a mana battery in raids
13:50.14Fiskereand i use your mom as a mana battery
13:50.14Fisker;3
13:50.42Znuffyour mom is fater and she's a better mana battery
13:51.59Fiskeri still prefer yours though
13:52.11ZnuffYours does better services ^^
13:53.10asmodai*groan*
13:56.00Fiskerhey asmodai
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13:59.06asmodaiFisker?
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14:14.27asmodaimmm, that's funny, Brink uses the id 4 engine, could've sworn they might've used Gearbox' Unreal engine modifications, combat looks so similar with the hits and xp.
14:15.33ZnuffBrink?
14:18.40Fiskerthe best game ever Znuff
14:18.45Fiskerand duh it uses ID4 asmodai
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14:20.14asmodaiWhat duh?
14:20.19asmodaislaps Fisker
14:20.24asmodaiThere ain't no rest for the Fisker...
14:21.50Fiskertrouts don't grow on trees
14:22.13Fiskeri've got forums to troll people to troutslap
14:26.28asmodaiYes, please go Christmas troll somewhere
14:27.40Fiskerwhy so srs?
14:30.28asmodaiSaw the new Aliens vs Predator trailer?
14:30.36Fiskernope
14:30.47asmodaihttp://www.gametrailers.com/video/player/60303
14:33.50Fiskeryou wouldn't
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15:39.08onaforeignshoreanyone know an addon that keeps track of your highest for every spell cast?
15:40.38Znuffgot a fubar addon that does that
15:40.49onaforeignshorewhat's it called?
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15:41.00ZnuffFuBar_TopScoreFu
15:41.13KriLL3errm fubar is defunct
15:41.44Znuff<PROTECTED>
15:41.53Znuffas long as it works and it's still mantained...
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15:42.30Znuffas long as it works and it's still mantained...
15:42.44KriLL3it uses a lot more resources
15:42.46Znuffwell, "updated" anyway
15:43.02KriLL3TOC bumping doesn't count as an update
15:44.24Ingelaonaforeignshore, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/critline.aspx
15:44.31Ingelawas the shit some years a go at least
15:44.33Ingeladunno how it is now
15:45.09Znuffeven if I would have to migrate from FuBar sometime soon... I'd still use the FuBar_* plugins
15:45.26Ingelathat's.. fubar!
15:45.45Znufftried replacements
15:45.52Znuffthey all fail when it comes to configurabilit
15:45.54Znuffthey all fail when it comes to configurability
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16:02.24onaforeignshoreI use FuBar2Broker and ChocolateBar
16:04.41onaforeignshoreI loved Baggins, but it isn't working very well anymore :(
16:04.50onaforeignshoreany other suggestions for a similar addon?
16:07.32Gnarfoz<KriLL3> it uses a lot more resources <- bs
16:08.08Gnarfoz(and it works just fine, too ;-))
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16:11.58onaforeignshorebag replacement suggersions anyone? :p
16:12.13onaforeignshores/suggersions/suggestions/
16:16.47KriLL3... I just finished CoS for the billionth time since 3.3, I was #1 dps, by a fair margin, I did more dmg than the rogue and warrior combined, and the mage wasn't much better than them
16:16.55KriLL3I'm the tank btw
16:17.01onaforeignshorelmao
16:17.17onaforeignshorewhat's your gear like though?
16:17.32KriLL3all you can get from triumph marks
16:17.41KriLL3+ from heroics
16:18.18KriLL3and some iLVL 245 LW gear
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16:25.35Gnarfozorionshock: missing translations in SOCD again :<
16:25.55Megalondamn you SOCD
16:28.03onaforeignshorelol
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16:51.46ArrowmasterZnuff: its not maintained
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17:11.59IngelaArrowmaster, what do you know, not like you're some kind of author or anything
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20:41.00asmodaiwtf
20:41.13asmodaisince when do you have an Experience Eliminator in the war room?
20:42.23asmodaiheh, catering to twinks >_<
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20:56.42asmodaihej Kalroth
20:57.03Kalrothhejsa!
20:57.28asmodaiGodt jul and all that
20:59.06Kalrothhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrNt5kr_Wi8 !
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22:26.17Fiskerdon't hurt me ckknight
22:26.34ckknightI will hurt you if I so choose
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22:26.56Fisker:(
22:30.13ckknightfor now, I shall let you be
22:30.18ckknightconsider it your Christmas present
22:31.41winkillerdo americans do anything special on the evening of the 24th?
22:32.07KriLL3don't think so
22:32.08winkilleror is that still a normal workday?
22:33.38Arrowmastersome do
22:33.48Arrowmasteri went to see family last night
22:35.00Arrowmasterbut no most people have christmas eve off, its just poor saps working retail that have to work
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