| 00:04.11 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.8-2-g2a17b3a Data/Auras.lua: [+1 commit] fix more possible memory-leaks in aura-hack |
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| 00:19.10 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.8-3-ga167b7c Code/Triggers.lua: [+1 commit] add default-trigger for "Molten Core" |
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| 00:23.39 | Megalon | Gazsvyaz: if they played a compilation of Maru the cat! |
| 00:40.55 | Aens|Superiority | What is a light weight minimal frill addon that changes the chat font. I didn't like prat because it had too many featuers i didn't use. |
| 00:41.44 | profalbert | maybe clearfont? don't know if that still works |
| 00:42.01 | Aens|Superiority | didn't that change all the fonts in the game? |
| 00:43.13 | profalbert | hmm... think so. I personally prefer Chatter |
| 00:43.39 | profalbert | but Chatter also has quite a number of modules, you might not want to use |
| 00:44.10 | onaforeignshore | lightweight is to create a WoW\Fonts folder and place the specific fonts you want there, renamed to match what the game expects :P |
| 00:44.35 | onaforeignshore | or use tekticles :p |
| 00:45.54 | Aens|Superiority | What i'm really looking for is a narrower font because I shrunk the size of my chat window. |
| 00:46.09 | Aens|Superiority | and making the font smaller just makes it blurry. |
| 00:46.47 | profalbert | saving space by removing the damn buttons also seems useful for gaining text-space imho |
| 00:46.53 | Aens|Superiority | i've already done that. |
| 00:47.45 | profalbert | with the default-UI? |
| 00:48.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6899 Citadel (3 files in 2 directories): Lady Deathwisper: Add two abilities, give her trash a name. |
| 00:49.46 | Aens|Superiority | minimalist. |
| 00:50.18 | Aens|Superiority | old as heck mod from like 1.0 that still somehow works. |
| 00:58.47 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r78 / (22 files in 15 directories): Added tag 2.0.17 for changeset 91b459c2bc27 |
| 00:58.49 | Repo | Updated Version Checker to "listen in" on boss mod broadcasts - still need to find out if DXE broadcasts, and what older versions on DBM sends |
| 00:58.51 | Repo | Fixed errors in LibGroup-1.0 |
| 00:58.52 | Repo | removed copies of libraries listed in .pkgmeta as external |
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| 01:25.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6900 Citadel/MG_Trash.lua: add a minor comment |
| 01:29.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6901 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Revert the summoning thing, since Funky said it's spammy :) |
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| 02:08.43 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.0b-1-ga48259e / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Deathbringer Saurfang is back |
| 02:16.57 | Torhal | Yssaril: ping |
| 02:17.11 | Yssaril | Torhal: pong |
| 02:17.44 | Torhal | Yssaril: If you want to get rid of the artifacting from yssDrop, make it dual-column and have the icon in the first column. Then have the header span both columns. |
| 02:18.08 | Torhal | The icons make the words almost illegible at certain scales. |
| 02:18.10 | Yssaril | Torhal: i know need to get around to doing that |
| 02:18.33 | Torhal | ok |
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| 03:08.46 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r42 AutoRoller.lua: Add auto confirmation for disenchant. |
| 03:20.03 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1262 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): - Correct capitalization error |
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| 03:40.58 | Yssaril | Torhal: does LibQtip support putting textures directly on it? |
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| 03:45.37 | Torhal | Yssaril: Just treat it as a string like you do already, but put it in its own column |
| 03:45.57 | Yssaril | Torhal: ok (though thats the cheap way out) |
| 03:46.00 | Torhal | Unelss you're talking about something else |
| 03:46.07 | Torhal | Oh |
| 03:47.21 | Torhal | It's cheap in more than one sense - it doesn't involve creating a texture, or setting/removing one, and tooltip:Clear() removes it |
| 03:48.11 | bluspacecow | TORHAL ! |
| 03:48.17 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22048395567&postId=220473317962&sid=1#4 |
| 03:48.20 | Torhal | bluspacecow: WAT!!!? |
| 03:48.25 | bluspacecow | ^^^ I made a wall of text for you |
| 03:48.36 | Torhal | I don't own a Mac. |
| 03:48.37 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:48.40 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 03:51.52 | Torhal | Yssaril: You could write a custom CellProvider for the icon cells if you wanted |
| 03:51.59 | Yssaril | Torhal: naw |
| 03:52.13 | Yssaril | i think i just fixed it anyways :) |
| 03:52.17 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:55.30 | Dessa | Shefki: ugh. you were too fast :D |
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| 03:57.33 | MysticalOS | where does curse client save it's settings on mac cause i've deleted every file i could find but i still can't zap settings, and it's showing tons of addons it think are installed that were removed ages ago :\ |
| 04:00.43 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r80 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added tag 2.0.18 for changeset 6ff2d6e24d9e |
| 04:00.45 | Repo | Fixed error in Version Checker |
| 04:01.53 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.8.8 YssDrop.lua: [+1 commit] no more font artifacts since the textures are separate cells now |
| 04:02.00 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.8.8 * a7b27e5 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.8 |
| 04:02.12 | Yssaril | Torhal: marry christmas :P |
| 04:02.24 | Torhal | Yssaril: Woo! :) |
| 04:02.59 | Yssaril | how has YssBossLoot been behaving for you? |
| 04:04.29 | Hid | There we go, think I'm done with Blizz_QuickHealth now :) |
| 04:04.52 | Hid | yoshimo, I made it \o/ |
| 04:06.07 | Torhal | Yssaril: Dunno - I was on the road for 24 hours. Only been back on WoW for a couple of hours and have been doing the world event |
| 04:06.18 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 04:06.27 | Yssaril | them tooltips should be all fixed |
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| 04:06.39 | Torhal | I'll check it out :) |
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| 04:12.50 | Yssaril | Torhal: do you know if there is a way to get the last tag name with a git command? |
| 04:14.06 | Torhal | Yssaril: git tag -l |
| 04:14.10 | Torhal | That lists them all though |
| 04:14.25 | Yssaril | yea i know that i just want the last one though |
| 04:16.16 | Torhal | Not that I'm aware of. |
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| 04:30.45 | onaforeignshore | mercurial creates a .hgtags file - does git do the same, cause you can tail the last line then |
| 04:32.08 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:32.28 | Arrowmaster | git uses a proper way to store tags instead of that hacky crap |
| 04:33.22 | Shadowed | Hid: LibQuickhealth-2.0 really isn't necessary anywa |
| 04:33.24 | Shadowed | you do know taht right |
| 04:33.25 | Shadowed | that* |
| 04:34.01 | Hid | By my measurements it's between 200ms and 300ms faster than frequentUpdates, and 600-1000ms faster than no frequentUpdates. |
| 04:34.10 | Shadowed | it's also inaccurate and tends to bug out |
| 04:34.26 | Shadowed | I wouldn't unregister the health updates, but what you have looks fine |
| 04:35.13 | Shadowed | You don't want to 100% rely on it, because then it'll break when people are out of combat log range |
| 04:35.20 | Shadowed | which is why you should keep watching health events |
| 04:35.33 | Hid | Yeah, it won't be 100% accurate at all times, but I'd take +/- a few hp if that means I get 200-300ms faster updates |
| 04:35.50 | Hid | Haven't had it bug out on me when using it with Grid for a very long time tho |
| 04:35.58 | Shadowed | Maybe they improved it, but it was fairly buggy when I was last using it |
| 04:36.04 | Shadowed | but yea, keep the health events registered, beyond that it looks fine. |
| 04:36.08 | Hid | But granted, the grid frames I got are way smaller than a unitframe, so it's hard to tell if it's off by a few % |
| 04:36.11 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth was always buggy |
| 04:36.25 | Shadowed | InstantHealth, but not QuickHealth, or the concept was always buggy? |
| 04:36.31 | Hid | Problem is, if I keep the health events registered, the health value jumps up/down a lot |
| 04:36.38 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth was a total hack job |
| 04:36.54 | Shadowed | Well, if you don't register the health events the mod will completely break when people are out of combat log range |
| 04:37.13 | Arrowmaster | and i didnt think quickhealth worked right with grid, something about builtin internal update frequency |
| 04:37.24 | Shadowed | Which if you're willing to put up with that, is fine but I wouldn't suggest it personally |
| 04:37.56 | Hid | Been using it for a long time, and honestly I haven't noticed any of the problems you describe |
| 04:38.07 | Shadowed | Do you forcibly unregister health events in Grid? |
| 04:38.42 | Hid | I didn't write the Grid_QuickHealth addon, but yes, it does |
| 04:38.52 | Hid | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.52 | Hid | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.58 | Hid | GridStatusHeals:UnregisterEvent("UNIT_HEALTH") |
| 04:39.05 | Shadowed | I think that's just the text indicators, not the actual bar? |
| 04:39.08 | Shadowed | Not sure, I never used grid |
| 04:39.40 | Hid | I think the GridStatusHealth module controls the text tags aswell |
| 04:39.47 | Hid | Not sure tho |
| 04:40.05 | Hid | The health bar and text tags seems to update at the exact same time in grid, though. |
| 04:40.26 | quiescens | you could hypothetically have a thingy where the quickhealth type updates |
| 04:40.28 | Shadowed | Ah I guess the library watches UNIT_HEALTH by default |
| 04:40.35 | Shadowed | so it doesn't matter |
| 04:40.52 | quiescens | show up as a little red bar on the end of the healthbar, sort of in the opposite direction of the "incoming heal" bits |
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| 04:46.17 | Hid | Shadowed, Thanks for taking the time to look at my code btw, I appreciate it. :) |
| 04:46.24 | Shadowed | no problem |
| 04:46.37 | Shadowed | Oh actually, there is one part I remembered |
| 04:46.47 | Shadowed | sec |
| 04:46.47 | Hid | Got almost no experience with lua, so I basically coded it in 1 night of trial and error, without any proper developer addons (loads and loads of reloadui's) |
| 04:47.24 | Shadowed | You will want to unregister UNIT_MAXHEALTH and UNIT_HEALTH from the IncHeal module, then add something along the lines of: |
| 04:47.32 | Hid | So even though I got it to work, without noticing any sideeffects, I got no idea if I broke something ^^ |
| 04:48.13 | Shadowed | if( frame.incHeal and frame.incHeal.healed ) then frame.incHeal:SetMinMaxValues(0, healthMax); frame.incHeal:SetValue(health + frame.incHeal.healed); end |
| 04:48.20 | Shadowed | add that below line #23 |
| 04:48.30 | Shadowed | That way the inc heal bar will move based on the LQH value rather than the UNIT_HEALTH one |
| 04:48.56 | Hid | Ah, cheers |
| 04:50.12 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1111 GUI_Main.lua: - Removing debug message |
| 04:51.42 | theblufurryfuzzb | O_O |
| 04:51.42 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: is there a way to retrive the last tag name via a git command? |
| 04:51.43 | theblufurryfuzzb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0gAgQQHFcQ |
| 04:52.05 | Bluspacecow | on a dvk02 :) |
| 04:52.07 | quiescens | o.o |
| 04:52.17 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia 04v3.3f release * r1112 : Tagging as v3.3f release |
| 04:52.52 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/kelp/. Kelp. JonathanWardRogers (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 04:53.13 | Hid | Maby I could hook into the fenv of the incHeal module with: setfenv(ShadowUF.modules.incHeal.updateHealthBar, proxyEnv) instead? (since I already did the exact same thing for ShadowUF.modules.healthBar.Update) |
| 04:53.16 | Bluspacecow | http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_calc.php?n=283 |
| 04:53.24 | Bluspacecow | 56 k of ram |
| 04:53.28 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: i barely remember there being something maybe but i dont know |
| 04:53.43 | Hid | Shadowed, Would that work aswell? Just to keep the "logic" of the code the same |
| 04:53.47 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: k |
| 04:53.52 | Torhal | Bluspacecow: Pure sex. |
| 04:54.04 | Bluspacecow | :) |
| 04:54.26 | Yssaril | tekkub: ping (is there anyway to get the name of the last tag via the commanline in git?) |
| 04:54.37 | Shadowed | You can't hook into the updateHealthBar function Hid, it's local. You would need to set an env around the UpdateFrame and UpdateIncoming functions |
| 04:55.24 | Hid | Oh, stupid me, didn't even check the functions in incheal.lua ^^ |
| 04:55.48 | Hid | Ye, your way is clearly the easiest way to go :) |
| 04:55.50 | Shadowed | But yes, it would work |
| 04:56.15 | Hid | Just started thinking that if I do that, I need to do the same thing for all the incheal tags etc |
| 04:56.55 | Hid | I'm not using incHeal myself, that's why I didn't even think of this :) |
| 04:58.17 | Shadowed | I might need to ask you to change something in how setfenv is called, but I'll let you know once I figure out how I'm doing the full config mode frames |
| 04:58.21 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: git describe --abbrev=0 |
| 04:58.22 | Arrowmaster | try that |
| 04:59.04 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: sweeet |
| 05:01.37 | Arrowmaster | ok its not perfect |
| 05:02.08 | Arrowmaster | i got a repo it doesnt work on correctly but i blame that on how tekkub tags stuff |
| 05:04.25 | Hid | Shadowed, Alright |
| 05:14.38 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.1b * 92bd1fb /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as 0.2.1b |
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| 05:19.05 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: btw how does tek tagg stuff so that that doesnt work (just so that i won't do it) |
| 05:19.48 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.0b-5-g7798376 miner.lua: [+4 commits] |
| 05:19.50 | Repo | 7798376: Automatic miner run on 12/20/09 23:19:32. |
| 05:19.51 | Repo | d04c0e5: Automatic miner run on 12/20/09 23:14:16. |
| 05:19.52 | Repo | 7b0cf2a: make getting latest tag super simple thanks to Arrowmaster |
| 05:19.53 | Repo | 377b558: miner will now commit/tag/push the new info |
| 05:21.17 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: by branching off and changing the version line in the toc from 'Alpha' to the version its about to be tagged as, tagging it, then doing a merge commit back in that changes the version line in the toc back to 'Alpha' |
| 05:22.00 | Yssaril | ah |
| 05:22.37 | Arrowmaster | i was just checking that command on the few git repos ive got and i tried it on tekKompare and it gave the wrong version number which is why i mentioned it |
| 05:23.03 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.2b miner.lua: [+1 commit] fix miner not writing flushing file before we commit our changes |
| 05:23.10 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.2b * 7147082 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.2b |
| 05:24.57 | Yssaril | woot now i can let the miner run and it will take care of the commiting and tagging by itself |
| 05:25.08 | Torhal | Skynet! |
| 05:25.13 | quiescens | flees. |
| 05:25.56 | Bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.04 | Bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.13 | Yssaril | gonna try another test run jsut to make sure it doesnt crap out again |
| 05:27.57 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.3b * 6e48fcf /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.3b |
| 05:28.02 | Yssaril | woot |
| 05:28.09 | Bluspacecow | \o |
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| 05:39.35 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.8.9 YssDrop.lua: [+1 commit] hide the hoverLDB tootip when we click so that it doesnt obscure the dropdown view |
| 05:39.42 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.8.9 * 407194f /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.9 |
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| 05:58.16 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r30 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 05:58.18 | Repo | still no fix for ticket 8, sorry. fixes for enUS (thanks, Farook!) Farook and black_mystics working on deDE |
| 06:06.44 | Hid | Is there a proper way to check if the default blizzard unitframes are being used, and not some other unitframes addon? |
| 06:07.35 | Hid | Currently checking with PlayerFrames:IsVisible, but I guess that might bug out a bit if the player hides his UI to take a screenshot, or if he's using the default unitframes just for the player frame |
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| 06:07.50 | Shefki | Hid: I'm gonna go with no. |
| 06:08.02 | Shefki | You don't have to hide the Blizzard frames to use some other unit frame. |
| 06:08.07 | Shefki | I don't see why you'd even care. |
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| 06:09.25 | Hid | Because I need a way to tell if I should go ahead and load my Blizz_QuickHealth addon or not :P |
| 06:09.45 | Hid | Guess I could just do it on a per-frame basis during load |
| 06:10.02 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22049926122&sid=1 |
| 06:10.05 | Antiarc | lollin' |
| 06:10.34 | Shadowed | Hid: IsShown() would tell you if the player frame is :Show() or :Hide() regardless of the parent being shown or hidden |
| 06:11.55 | Shefki | Antiarc: Must be hard to find CGI programmers these days. |
| 06:12.01 | Hid | And that will work for frames like target, focus and party/raid without the frames being "active"(player not in a party/raid) aswell? |
| 06:12.18 | Shefki | Hid: There's no way to know what you want to know. |
| 06:12.27 | Shefki | Because there's no uniform way of disabling the Blizzard frames. |
| 06:12.38 | Shadowed | well |
| 06:12.44 | Shadowed | It's fairly generic that they all hide them |
| 06:12.50 | Shadowed | you could also check if uh |
| 06:12.53 | Shefki | And even if they're not disabled it doesn't mean there isn't some other unit frame. |
| 06:13.02 | Hid | Well, the few UF addons I checked seem to just unregister all events and OnUpdate scripts, and then Hide() |
| 06:13.15 | Hid | (while resetting the Show() function for that frame) |
| 06:13.15 | Shefki | One useful thing would be to look at the Clique frame registration. |
| 06:13.16 | Shadowed | Check if like UNIT_COMBAT is registered or something |
| 06:13.46 | Shefki | Hid: I can tell you for a fact that some people don't turn off all the Blizzard frames. |
| 06:14.17 | Hid | Which is the problem I got, someone might use the default blizz focus frame, but another unitframe addon for everything else. |
| 06:14.43 | Hid | In that case I still want my addon to load, but only activate for the focus frame |
| 06:14.49 | Shefki | Right, I just don't see why you care? |
| 06:14.51 | Antiarc | What that post really means is "I have a dumb idea that people have already thought of and dismissed out of hand, and it has no defensibility, and I don't have the skills to fail at it so I want someone else to waste their time on it" |
| 06:14.54 | Shefki | How is this relevent to you? |
| 06:14.57 | Shadowed | Yea you realy don't need to care |
| 06:15.10 | Shadowed | If they don't delete the other addon and still use a custom UF, they are stupid |
| 06:15.11 | Shadowed | sucks to be them |
| 06:16.00 | Hid | Haha, I guess :) |
| 06:16.00 | Hid | Shefki, Because I'm writing an addon, where having this info would be helpful? =) |
| 06:16.00 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: CGI programmer could use any language |
| 06:16.13 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I was being facitious. |
| 06:16.27 | quiescens | o.O |
| 06:18.07 | Shefki | Hid: I'm pretty sure every unit frame puts their frames in the ClickCastFrames table. That may be useful for you. |
| 06:18.17 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r43 AutoRoller.toc: Bump toc version to 3.3 |
| 06:18.44 | Hid | Shefki, I'll check it out, thanks |
| 06:20.08 | Hid | Actually, fuckit, if someone is stupid enough to have this addon enabled together with another UF mod than the default, they get to live with the minor performance hit/possible error spam. :P |
| 06:22.35 | Repo | 10arcanecombopoints: 03Mecdemort * r8 ArcaneComboPoints.toc: Bump toc |
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| 06:23.11 | eidolarr | A lot of people use multiple UF mods |
| 06:23.21 | eidolarr | a particularly common split is one for raid frames, one for everything else |
| 06:24.07 | onaforeignshore | @project smartres2 |
| 06:24.09 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/smartres2/. SmartRes2. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. myrroddin (Manager/Author). Updated: 24 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/8 |
| 06:24.31 | Shefki | Hid: What are you doing? |
| 06:24.42 | Hid | eidolarr, Yes but that's fine, it's only a problem if they use different addons for the player/focus/target frames |
| 06:24.43 | Repo | 10arcanecombopoints: 03Mecdemort 04v1.3 * r9 : Tagging as v1.3 |
| 06:24.58 | Myrroddin | onaforeignshore, hello? |
| 06:25.17 | Hid | Shefki, "Blizz_QuickHealth", adding support for LibQuickHealth to the default unit frames |
| 06:25.30 | onaforeignshore | it's Unregister, not UnRegister |
| 06:25.47 | Shefki | How would that have any impact to other unit frames? |
| 06:26.08 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort 04v1.1 * r44 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 06:26.39 | Myrroddin | Oh man, you're kidding? I stared at the callbackhandler page for how long and missed THAT??? |
| 06:26.46 | onaforeignshore | yep |
| 06:26.58 | onaforeignshore | 1 wrong capital and it bombs :p |
| 06:27.04 | Shefki | Ohh I think I see what your issue is. |
| 06:27.10 | Shefki | Other unit frames unregister the events. |
| 06:27.22 | Shefki | But they can't undo your hooks to do fast health. |
| 06:27.31 | Shefki | I'd say punt it. |
| 06:28.09 | Shefki | It's the users problem if they use your addon and don't use Blizz frames. |
| 06:28.09 | Myrroddin | ok, i'll load it up and smack some combat dummies |
| 06:28.09 | Shefki | Use IsVisible and just don't bother to do updates if the frame isn't visible. |
| 06:28.09 | Shefki | Problem solved. |
| 06:28.10 | Hid | Shefki, It would keep calling functions from the default frames even if it's hidden, causing a performance hit for no reason, and possibly cause lua errors because some parts of the frame isn't active. The other UF mod could also unregister some events, causing strange sideeffects in my code (possibly) |
| 06:28.59 | Hid | Shefki, Ye, that's how I solved it for now |
| 06:29.07 | miica | did new patch come? |
| 06:29.10 | Shefki | That's the only thing you can do. |
| 06:29.14 | Repo | 10timetodie: 03Mecdemort * r89 TimeToDie.toc: Bump toc to 3.3 |
| 06:29.22 | miica | should i buy game time? :3 |
| 06:29.31 | miica | no no! |
| 06:29.43 | Myrroddin | now if only i could figure out what was wrong with my code for the profiles... |
| 06:29.44 | miica | not gonna do it :< |
| 06:30.43 | miica | when diablo comes out? |
| 06:30.51 | miica | did new starcraft come already |
| 06:31.39 | Myrroddin | i'm getting pinged by irc, but don't know what the ping was LOL |
| 06:31.39 | Shefki | miica: Do you live on Mars or something? |
| 06:32.13 | Shefki | 3.3.0 is almost two weeks old, no Starcraft II isn't coming out till sometime next year. |
| 06:32.32 | miica | i cant play wow |
| 06:32.44 | miica | it is almost same thing that using drugs |
| 06:33.01 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.27 | miica | and blizz sended message "wanna buy more heroin only 10e" |
| 06:36.09 | Repo | 10sexygroup (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * aa0c244 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 06:36.10 | Repo | aa0c244: Added the database code including the table compression/decompression |
| 06:36.12 | Repo | c5fc748: Moved users to pull from the database instead of example table |
| 06:36.14 | Repo | 8dde6fc: Removed debug achievement code |
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| 06:48.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6902 Citadel/Locales (3 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: |
| 06:48.36 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 07:01.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6903 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 07:10.08 | Yssaril | Shadowed: is there a swing timer bar for SUF? |
| 07:12.55 | onaforeignshore | for monkeys? :p |
| 07:13.21 | Hid | Yssaril, There's a pretty nice swing module included in AzCastBars |
| 07:14.00 | Yssaril | Hid: don't need an entire castbar addon |
| 07:14.00 | Hid | Actually, no, it's included in "AzCastBarPlugins" |
| 07:14.13 | Yssaril | maybe i'll jsut make my own |
| 07:14.14 | Hid | It's modular, you can turn everything off |
| 07:14.34 | Hid | It isn't really a "castbar" addon, as much as it is a modular bar addon, afaik :) |
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| 07:16.18 | onaforeignshore | I love my ACB :p |
| 07:16.43 | Hid | I recently made the switch from Quartz to acb myself :) |
| 07:17.11 | Hid | Lacking a few options (like borders/border textures on bars), but other than that I'm really liking it |
| 07:17.23 | Hid | Esp the global cooldown plugin for my resto druid :) |
| 07:21.36 | Shadowed | god no |
| 07:21.44 | Shadowed | SUf is not going to get swing timers |
| 07:22.24 | Yssaril | hehe k |
| 07:23.13 | Hid | Pretty huge pain to make them accurate, esp with DW classes ^^ |
| 07:24.23 | Hid | Woho, time to send this addon(Blizz_QuickHealth) to some trusting and unsuspecting friend and see what they make of it :) |
| 07:25.07 | Hid | Put in a "demo" option to turn on/off the different health update options in 3 frames, so people can check out the difference themselves :) |
| 07:25.27 | Hid | Ye, I'm bored |
| 07:33.15 | Hid | http://download.local.se/Blizz_QuickHealth-b1.tar.bz2 if anyone's interested |
| 07:34.46 | eidolarr | does anyone know python reasonably well and have a few mins to spare? |
| 07:37.08 | Hid | eidolarr, I haven't worked much with it (perl coder myself), but I might be able to help. (probably not, but it's better than nothing I guess :) |
| 07:38.27 | eidolarr | Hid: is there a way to dump the global environment? even just the keys? like for k in pairs(_G) do print(k) end ? |
| 07:41.00 | Hid | Uhm |
| 07:41.22 | Hid | for k, v in globals().items(): |
| 07:41.23 | Hid | print k, "=", v |
| 07:41.24 | Hid | ? |
| 07:43.32 | eidolarr | yeah that did it |
| 07:43.38 | eidolarr | but holy crap that was more than i was expecting |
| 07:43.40 | eidolarr | thanks |
| 07:43.48 | Hid | :) |
| 07:46.56 | orionshock | eidolarr: /run for k,v in pairs(_G) do if tostring(k):lower():find("element") then print(k,v) end end |
| 07:47.11 | orionshock | oh, in pytho.. |
| 07:47.15 | orionshock | oh, in python* |
| 07:55.09 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.1.19 * 1558a9e /: [new tag, +2 commits] |
| 07:55.11 | Repo | - Smae |
| 07:57.08 | Hid | Would love some testers of my addon if someone got the time to play around with it a bit |
| 07:57.19 | onaforeignshore | what addon? |
| 07:57.25 | Hid | http://download.local.se/Blizz_QuickHealth-b1.tar.bz2 |
| 07:57.46 | Hid | Just finished it |
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| 08:00.49 | orionshock | Hid: upload to a bit less strange |
| 08:01.01 | onaforeignshore | 7z handles it just fine |
| 08:01.48 | orionshock | Hid: upload to a bit less strange of a web site |
| 08:02.14 | Hid | That's my personal webserver :) |
| 08:02.24 | Hid | (and host) |
| 08:02.26 | onaforeignshore | urgh... to test it I need to use the default Blizzard unit frames... kill me now :p |
| 08:02.31 | Hid | Located in my appartment :P |
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| 08:02.45 | Hid | haha ^^ |
| 08:03.11 | Hid | There's a "demo" feature (/quickhealth demo) to make it easier to test out |
| 08:03.59 | Hid | turns on lqh for the targetframe, frequentUpdates for your focus and turns off frequentUpdates for the player frame |
| 08:06.04 | Arrowmaster | i thought frequentUpdates was a global setting |
| 08:06.30 | Hid | I override it |
| 08:07.09 | Arrowmaster | but as i understood it, it changed the way the game internally handled stuff |
| 08:07.15 | Arrowmaster | not the ui |
| 08:08.14 | Hid | GetCVarBool("predictedHealth") is the "global", frame.healthbar.frequentUpdates can override it |
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| 08:08.45 | yoshimo | whats the max. amount of data an addon is allowed to store in savedvars? |
| 08:08.52 | Hid | All it does in blizzards healthbar frame code is this: |
| 08:08.54 | Hid | statusbar:SetScript("OnUpdate", UnitFrameHealthBar_OnUpdate); |
| 08:08.54 | Hid | else |
| 08:08.54 | Hid | statusbar:RegisterEvent("UNIT_HEALTH"); |
| 08:08.54 | Hid | end |
| 08:09.06 | Hid | Ok, that didn't go too well |
| 08:09.39 | Hid | Anyways, if ( GetCVarBool("predictedHealth") and frequentUpdates ) then it uses an OnUpdate script, else it uses the UNIT_HEALTH event |
| 08:10.28 | Hid | So all I do is just manually unregister the event that checks for it, and swap em around myself :P |
| 08:10.37 | Hid | Seems to be working at least |
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| 08:11.07 | Hid | Anyways, I'm off for a few hours, damn christmas shopping :/ |
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| 08:11.16 | Repo | 10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r234 / (9 files in 1 directory): beql: |
| 08:11.17 | Hid | Later :) |
| 08:11.18 | Repo | - Fix enable/Disable issue |
| 08:11.20 | Repo | - Improve Tooltip handling |
| 08:14.18 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 04v1.0 for 3.3 * r90 : Tagging as v1.0 for 3.3 |
| 08:14.35 | Repo | 10broker_playtimer: 03mscottforbes * r16 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Added 'Reset Now' button in options dialog. |
| 08:14.37 | Repo | - Fixed some strings that weren't localized but should have been. |
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| 08:17.53 | Nechckn | yoshimo ((2^18)-1) constants is Lua parser limit |
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| 08:26.15 | Repo | 10broker_playtimer: 03mscottforbes 041.1 * r17 : Tagging as 1.1 |
| 08:29.24 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1263 GridStatusHeals.lua: |
| 08:29.26 | Repo | - Fix: GridStatusHeals now correctly reassigns its db upvalue when the module is reset |
| 08:35.21 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r31 / (4 files in 2 directories): too many changes to call. BIG change to enUS |
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| 08:36.31 | yoshimo | Nechckn , that might explain why wim crashed , "saved vars overflow" ;) |
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| 08:49.18 | Nechckn | yoshimo Yeah, it is sort of evil. We used to have some folks run into and lose their data, before breaking our statistics into their own SVs, so it is painfully ingrained in my grey matter. |
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| 08:57.34 | Repo | 10timetodie: 03Mecdemort 04v1.2 * r90 : Tagging as v1.2 |
| 09:04.06 | yoshimo | youre not allowed to rename the savedvarfile of your addon from within wow, are you? |
| 09:04.14 | Wobin | nope |
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| 09:15.47 | asmodai | Mother Mary |
| 09:15.52 | asmodai | took 2 hours to get to work |
| 09:16.02 | asmodai | Got to love crawling through thr snow. |
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| 09:19.16 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03ananhaid 07master * v1.2.3-1-ge5460d1 localization/zhCN.lua: [+1 commit] zhCN update. |
| 09:22.15 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r99 / (2 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 09:24.18 | onaforeignshore | .pkgmeta questions: what tags can you use for libraries? I know "tag: latest" - and also, would you use it for all, and if not, what would you use? |
| 09:27.07 | Torhal | onaforeignshore: If you only want to use a specific tag, put that in place of "latest" |
| 09:27.40 | onaforeignshore | ty |
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| 09:43.36 | Repo | 10snowflake-3-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 09:45.05 | Wobin | @describe snowflake-3-0 |
| 09:45.07 | Repo | Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/snowflake-3-0/. Snowflake-3.0. A complete AceConfig-3.0 compatible version. |
| 09:45.27 | Wobin | ..whut? |
| 09:48.48 | Repo | 10snowflake-3-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r3 / (5 files in 2 directories): first version |
| 10:03.46 | Repo | 10survival (experimental): 03Grayal * r2 / (10 files in 3 directories): first version |
| 10:05.41 | Repo | 10survival (experimental): 03Grayal * r3 Survival.toc: first version |
| 10:14.36 | orionshock | jnwhiteh: can you add a tom tom menu to the built in quest POI's? |
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| 10:40.38 | Repo | 10snowflake-3-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r4 AceDropDown-Simple.lua: first version |
| 10:44.28 | SunTsu | yay, Grayal's descriptions are impressive |
| 10:45.46 | olafski | an addon that shows snowflakes on your screen |
| 10:45.55 | olafski | that's what it sounds like to me :P |
| 10:46.00 | digmouse | orionshock: that's what I'm thinking about, tomtom+builtin quest=no more carbonite |
| 10:46.27 | SunTsu | I really wonder what the first 98 releases might have been it r99 is the first version |
| 10:46.34 | SunTsu | s/it/if/ |
| 10:46.44 | olafski | heh true enough |
| 10:46.48 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r100 / (3 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 10:46.58 | olafski | oh, I didn't see this one yet |
| 10:47.32 | asmodai | olafski: It must be based on Wobin's toaster screensaver |
| 10:47.49 | asmodai | XD |
| 10:47.50 | SunTsu | Somehoe I get the impression that the reason of using a revisioning system with comments escapes him |
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| 10:55.12 | olafski | maybe he's new to it |
| 10:55.24 | olafski | took me like 10 revisions before I had my first project checked in the way I wanted it :P |
| 10:56.40 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r32 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:56.41 | Repo | ticket 8 fixed, for sure. all options working except for test bars. need to test addon in a party or raid. file structure changed |
| 10:59.49 | Wobin | wait |
| 10:59.58 | Wobin | he has a library to put snowflakes on the screen? |
| 11:00.05 | Wobin | What's the demand for that? >< |
| 11:00.30 | KriLL3 | is there an addon yet or is it a feature of an addon to remove the quest objective sidebar and bottom bar but leaving the pins? |
| 11:03.12 | Wobin | ah |
| 11:03.19 | Wobin | It's a possible Dewdrop replacement |
| 11:04.51 | onaforeignshore | snowflake vs dewdrop :p |
| 11:04.59 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r52 / (4 files in 1 directory): BossTactics: |
| 11:05.00 | Repo | - final 2.17 release |
| 11:05.23 | SunTsu | Wobin: didn't the description already give it away? :> |
| 11:06.12 | Wobin | SunTsu, with the proliferation of christmas addons... no =P |
| 11:06.33 | olafski | given that there's also LetItSnow which does what I described.. |
| 11:06.36 | Wobin | And since it just said "A complete AceConfig-3.0 compatible version." |
| 11:07.03 | Wobin | that's just "It's ace3 compatible.." but not what it was =P |
| 11:07.36 | SunTsu | Wobin: I was just being sarcastic |
| 11:08.06 | Wobin | asmodai derailed my sarcasm detector last night =P |
| 11:08.29 | Wobin | when he took my AfterDark addon seriously =P |
| 11:08.39 | SunTsu | OK, I thought my smilie might had given that away ;) |
| 11:08.53 | Wobin | That could have been a hopeful smiley! |
| 11:12.05 | asmodai | derails Wobin some more |
| 11:12.57 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic-2 (experimental): 03Silmano 04a002 * 40930ce /: [new tag, +3 commits] a002 |
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| 12:33.29 | Groktar | declares himself supreme ruler of the universe |
| 12:33.33 | Groktar | 4OBEY |
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| 12:36.43 | KriLL3 | urgh, why does the LFD random put me in HoR with a paladin healer? |
| 12:36.48 | KriLL3 | happened 4 times in 5 days |
| 12:37.00 | KriLL3 | hasn't worked out any of them |
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| 12:38.40 | Groktar | points out that KriLL3 is another common element in all 4 failures |
| 12:38.56 | KriLL3 | I've tanked there before and it was fine |
| 12:39.19 | KriLL3 | but paladins are poor group healers, especially on the bosses they struggle to keep the others alive |
| 12:39.43 | KriLL3 | and there is always someone that doesn't tuck into a corner to force the ranged mobs to approach |
| 12:39.55 | KriLL3 | or goes full out dps on non marked target while I'm stunned |
| 12:40.01 | Groktar | lolmarks |
| 12:40.11 | KriLL3 | well I find marks help |
| 12:40.25 | Groktar | less time marking more time picking shit up imo |
| 12:40.33 | KriLL3 | though priest first, mage second or first if there isn't a priest, and the rifleman last is usually how it's done |
| 12:40.50 | KriLL3 | well I mark after I pick up, and I mark using numpad |
| 12:40.57 | KriLL3 | 1 is skull, 2 is x, etc |
| 12:41.04 | KriLL3 | makes it fast |
| 12:41.08 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I end up there at least twice a day |
| 12:41.28 | KriLL3 | I just did, and again with a pala healer, left. |
| 12:41.31 | SunTsu | KriLL3: both as DK tank and pally healer and both worked out fine |
| 12:41.39 | KriLL3 | I don't need anything in there |
| 12:42.00 | KriLL3 | I haven't managed it once with a pala healer |
| 12:42.13 | KriLL3 | I have with druid priest and shaman though |
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| 12:42.45 | KriLL3 | and that first time with a shaman healer everyone stood in the room, was a nightmare to tank but the healer kept up with random dmg |
| 12:42.49 | SunTsu | KriLL3: it's not easy, yeah, but only the event gets a little rougher. |
| 12:43.23 | SunTsu | but every group I was there with made it successfully, with maybe a single casualty |
| 12:43.35 | KriLL3 | nearly finished the instance once with a pala healer, but he DC:ed on last wave of mobs before the gunship |
| 12:43.38 | olafski | we wiped in that event like 6 times yesterday |
| 12:43.45 | olafski | eventually we made it because the boomkin helped out on cleansing |
| 12:43.51 | olafski | at least I think that was the key factor there |
| 12:44.00 | olafski | I just kept taking tons of damage, priest couldn't keep me up :< |
| 12:44.12 | KriLL3 | I hate that running event, wipe on last wave and you have to do it all over again, that instance is damn annoying, waves and waves of stuff |
| 12:44.37 | SunTsu | KriLL3: tell the healer to sand in the corner, and keep on healing like hell. It's the only heroic that made me go OOM so far |
| 12:44.52 | SunTsu | or to stand, whatever they prefer |
| 12:44.59 | asmodai | nevcairiel: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-49993-2.html |
| 12:45.07 | orionshock | OT:: anyone got a private tracker invite? |
| 12:45.12 | KriLL3 | olafski: the spellcasters are fairly easy to interrupt, spell dmg isn't the worst part in there imo, 2x footmen zerking is much worse, kills my 52k hp tank with 32k armor and 43% dodge fairly quickly |
| 12:45.50 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: healers don't like to spam heal even if it's needed, had healers stand idle when I'm sub 20% hp and their mana bar is full, they heal just as I'm about to die |
| 12:46.09 | quiescens | do you know for sure they're standing idle? |
| 12:46.13 | quiescens | and not interrupted |
| 12:46.17 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 12:46.18 | quiescens | or stunned |
| 12:46.20 | quiescens | etc |
| 12:46.34 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I differ at that point, I like keeping tanks and group topped when I can |
| 12:46.37 | KriLL3 | was like that whole instance, no mobs near and no abilities like that |
| 12:46.49 | KriLL3 | healed me only when it was absolutely needed |
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| 12:47.12 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: I get mana conservation, but some people do that even with a full mana bar |
| 12:47.20 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 12:47.27 | KriLL3 | don't like touching 3k hp on mob groups |
| 12:47.41 | quiescens | on the flip side everyone likes to blame the healer even if it isn't their fault |
| 12:47.52 | SunTsu | I'm at 500+ mp5 raid buffed, what do I care about mana? |
| 12:47.55 | KriLL3 | makes my finger to activate survival instincts and frenzied regen twitch |
| 12:48.09 | KriLL3 | quiescens: no no, everyone blames the tank |
| 12:48.35 | KriLL3 | the tank should know every encounter, and every nuance of the instance |
| 12:48.41 | quiescens | you should! |
| 12:48.52 | quiescens | but everyone blames the healer if anyone dies to anything |
| 12:48.54 | KriLL3 | the healer just needs to heal the tank, and on occasion over zealous dps, dps just needs to hit their keys |
| 12:48.57 | SunTsu | KriLL3: tanks like to blame the healer, even if it was ther fault |
| 12:49.11 | KriLL3 | quiescens: or the tank "zomg keep aggro!" *me stunned* |
| 12:49.52 | KriLL3 | love warriors doing charge + sweeping + bs first second in a fight, only thing I could do to remedy that is aoe taunt, and that's on a long cooldown |
| 12:50.10 | KriLL3 | and then I still need to fight hard to get back aggro |
| 12:50.26 | SunTsu | like the tank in soulforge, who didn't wait for me to arive, ran into the room, pulled all the mobs around the corner and eventually died, stating "Faulty healing" - which I replied with "Faulty line of sight" |
| 12:50.26 | KriLL3 | yet somehow it's my fault when the idiot dies |
| 12:50.41 | KriLL3 | yeah you've said that =P |
| 12:51.03 | quiescens | I've seeen both and I find people blame the healer undeservedly much moreso than the tanks |
| 12:51.07 | KriLL3 | I do run ahead of healer sometimes, but usually not to that extreme, or if that happens I pull all my survival cooldowns and run backwards |
| 12:51.19 | KriLL3 | quiescens: let me guess, you're a healer? =P |
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| 12:51.30 | SunTsu | I've had lots of tanks acting like that. I'd really appreciate tanks to play healers once in a while and healers playing tanks |
| 12:51.32 | quiescens | melee dps gets cleaved to death and blames healers etc |
| 12:51.39 | Kalroth | I always push the healer when tanking, why should I be the only one having fun |
| 12:51.43 | odt | KriLL3: i've solved this for myself by chainpulling the whole isntance |
| 12:51.50 | yoshimo | quiescens, icc for example ;) |
| 12:51.50 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: well in a HC I an survive for ages without a healer vs most groups |
| 12:51.57 | odt | usually works fine nowdays when you have at least 1 dps doing 5k or so |
| 12:52.06 | Kalroth | grab as much trash as possible (unless it's full of casters) and try to get the death knight cleave killed |
| 12:52.45 | KriLL3 | Kalroth: I like pulling 2-3 groups at once if the paths time right etc |
| 12:52.51 | KriLL3 | works fine |
| 12:53.00 | SunTsu | quiescens: I once got kicked from ToC because I wasn't healing... which I surely did, just not the tank directly - but using beacon of light there is no need to |
| 12:53.05 | KriLL3 | works less fine for the dps standing in <random aoe ability> |
| 12:53.30 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: heh, I've done plenty of HCs with a "healer" specced dps and just throwing hots on me from time to time |
| 12:53.42 | KriLL3 | ele shaman in VH yesterday for one |
| 12:53.44 | yoshimo | beacon on one tank, healing the other, vault of archavon works quite nice that way :D |
| 12:53.47 | KriLL3 | works fine |
| 12:54.35 | KriLL3 | bah I hate my server, doesn't matter how easy the encounter is, if it's a raid they want you to have achi |
| 12:54.47 | KriLL3 | doesn't matter if you outgear it horribly, you MUST have achivement |
| 12:54.58 | odt | make your own group |
| 12:55.00 | yoshimo | they only look for gear here, and that fails as well ;) |
| 12:55.38 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: yeah that's a bit tricky, I got some gear some would say is bad, but which is actually the best I can get for tanking outside of raids/frost emblems |
| 12:55.51 | KriLL3 | like my polar boots |
| 12:55.59 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I most of the time think I should do that, too, but then again, I am there to be the healer, not dps ;) |
| 12:56.14 | KriLL3 | I'm tank |
| 12:56.38 | odt | i'm a tank who is very rarely not in first place for dmg done :) |
| 12:56.56 | KriLL3 | I've read about all the encounters and watched films with commentary, I know it well enough "got achi?" "no" *ignore* |
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| 12:57.48 | KriLL3 | odt: I'm focused more on mitigation, and sadly feral druids need agi for armor/dodge that doesn't help our dmg in bearform |
| 12:58.02 | KriLL3 | str doesn't help mitigation in any way for ferals, since we don't have parry |
| 12:58.33 | Wobin | You need little paw gauntlets |
| 12:58.34 | KriLL3 | I do go up the dmg meters in fights I can make use of 2x maul and 3x mangle though, and swipe |
| 12:58.43 | Wobin | or the cat bracers |
| 12:58.50 | Wobin | and parry like wonder woman |
| 12:59.01 | KriLL3 | Wobin: wild cats/bears can parry, we can't :( |
| 12:59.04 | odt | KriLL3: it's a byproduct of using high stamina +arp gear :) |
| 12:59.42 | SunTsu | odt: which class do you play? |
| 12:59.45 | odt | feral |
| 12:59.55 | KriLL3 | hmm my tanking gear got 249 arp, 12.32% |
| 12:59.57 | KriLL3 | is that much? |
| 12:59.59 | Wobin | KriLL3, it's been tamed out of you |
| 13:00.04 | odt | about the same i have |
| 13:00.17 | SunTsu | Yeah, I've seen feral tanks with 4k+ dps |
| 13:00.22 | odt | i'd link my armory, but i'm in pvp gear atm |
| 13:00.24 | KriLL3 | get it from gear, didn't gem/ench for it |
| 13:00.36 | odt | i do about that much on icc10/25 trash |
| 13:00.38 | odt | 4.5 or so |
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| 13:00.51 | odt | KriLL3: ofc, i only enchant for sta/agi |
| 13:00.55 | KriLL3 | same |
| 13:01.19 | KriLL3 | just never considered arp and then realize I got a fair bit =P |
| 13:01.57 | KriLL3 | just wish I had some more expertise, but it feels wrong to gem/ench for that instead of sta/agi |
| 13:02.18 | odt | i'm horribly over hitcap and 38 exp atm |
| 13:02.21 | SunTsu | As a DK I'm expecting much aggro/dps boost, yesterday I changed edge of ruin against the 2h sword from Marrowgar10, which has much more strength and dps |
| 13:02.35 | SunTsu | and it brought me slightly over hit cap |
| 13:02.48 | KriLL3 | odt: I got 404 hit |
| 13:02.51 | odt | but seems to work out fine, was 3rd tank in icc25 yesterday |
| 13:03.04 | odt | except saurfang, where i went kitty in my bear gear |
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| 13:03.23 | odt | and did an okayish 5k, by being the manglebot for the top feral who nearly did 8 |
| 13:03.58 | quiescens | the numerical difference between having to mangle and not having to mangle is minimal |
| 13:04.37 | odt | it's a big difference in your rotation when you play with 10fps like our top cat does :D |
| 13:04.39 | quiescens | its just the "my rotation is now | | this much more complicated" effect that can be substantial |
| 13:05.27 | odt | this was teh first time for me to play cat besides dps, so i had no clue about pve rotations |
| 13:05.30 | KriLL3 | is a good feral dps rotation outlined somewhere? I can't seem to get a good rotation going, and if I do I end up with 0 energy and nothing to replenish it with |
| 13:05.40 | odt | i followed the keep always savage roar and rip up strategy |
| 13:05.41 | quiescens | there is no rotation |
| 13:05.57 | quiescens | we just call it that because people are used to calling it that |
| 13:06.19 | KriLL3 | so keep rake up, rip when it's down, and spam shred all other times? |
| 13:06.30 | odt | but as a feral you really cant hit FB's in pve can you? |
| 13:06.31 | KriLL3 | and finish with savage roar or FB |
| 13:06.48 | KriLL3 | I think you can if you got rip and roar up |
| 13:06.53 | KriLL3 | but that's only on a boss |
| 13:07.02 | KriLL3 | everything else is dead before you do your third finisher |
| 13:07.07 | quiescens | its more of a "do whatever you can to keep: savage roar up, mangle debuff up, rip, rake, shred, FB if you have savage roar up and have 10s on rip |
| 13:07.10 | quiescens | " |
| 13:07.10 | quiescens | etc |
| 13:07.50 | KriLL3 | that's a rotation, just super long =P |
| 13:07.58 | quiescens | ooc proits not a rotation |
| 13:07.58 | KriLL3 | odt: my profile http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Voliant |
| 13:08.09 | KriLL3 | well a semi random rotation... |
| 13:08.13 | Wobin | you want a rotation? |
| 13:08.15 | quiescens | a very random rotation |
| 13:08.15 | Wobin | http://hosaka.net/~friar/catdps.jpg |
| 13:08.36 | quiescens | crits give two combo points, ooc's can proc |
| 13:08.54 | KriLL3 | I got 53% crit in dps gear and catform |
| 13:10.03 | quiescens | the buff duration depends on how many combo points you used, the 3 debuff durations don't line up in any reasonable timeframe |
| 13:11.07 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/wow_ladies/10756766.html has a good discussion |
| 13:12.21 | Megalon | http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/source/browse/trunk/profiles/Druid_T9_00_55_16.simc |
| 13:12.22 | Megalon | ;x |
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| 13:18.33 | asmodai | Wobin: he did a lot of those I guess, saw a lock one the other day |
| 13:19.17 | asmodai | rofl, "teabag people that died" |
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| 13:25.51 | yoshimo | pallys dont have a "rotation" its rather called "fcfs-first comes first serves" , only some kind of priotysystems |
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| 13:28.08 | Xinhuan | its called a heap ;p |
| 13:28.11 | Wobin | I thought you placed your nose on the 'G' key |
| 13:28.16 | Wobin | then rolled back and forth |
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| 13:38.48 | KriLL3 | isn't that what hunters do? |
| 13:38.56 | asmodai | Wobin: that never works for me, only opens up and closes various windows and |
| 13:39.15 | KriLL3 | saw a mod that moved ability icons right to left and when they got to the left they enlarged then vanished, meaning cooldown was done |
| 13:39.25 | KriLL3 | basically a kind of simon says |
| 13:39.29 | KriLL3 | or whack a mole |
| 13:39.37 | KriLL3 | push button x when icon y appears |
| 13:40.10 | KriLL3 | the player is just the missing step of the automation |
| 13:40.22 | Wobin | sounds like grid healing =) |
| 13:40.38 | Wobin | except you might have to move more =P |
| 13:41.16 | KriLL3 | is honor cap still 75k? |
| 13:41.32 | KriLL3 | "Yes, there is a limit to how many honor points a character can accumulate, and it is currently set to be approximately twice as much as the most expensive reward." |
| 13:41.51 | KriLL3 | there are 62k rewards, meaning it should be 125k~... |
| 13:42.17 | asmodai | KriLL3: sexycooldown does that |
| 13:42.35 | Repo | 10snowflake-3-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 13:42.46 | KriLL3 | asmodai: ah, didn't know the addon |
| 13:42.53 | KriLL3 | it's useless for ferals though |
| 13:43.22 | Wobin | well it kinda doesn't show what to do next |
| 13:43.29 | Wobin | it just shows cooldowns on abilities |
| 13:44.02 | KriLL3 | true, but it can be used to that effect |
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| 13:47.20 | Megalon | what to do next? use ovale + an script for your class/spec |
| 13:47.39 | Megalon | a script :7 |
| 13:51.52 | KriLL3 | Megalon: doubt that works for ferals =P |
| 13:52.03 | quiescens | it works |
| 13:52.10 | quiescens | for the most part |
| 13:56.10 | Megalon | http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t84378-visualising_optimal_cat_rotation_ingame_ovale_scripts/ |
| 13:56.54 | Megalon | but I think not all conditional from simcraft can be converted easily |
| 13:59.14 | Fisker | slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:59.15 | Fisker | brrr |
| 14:02.20 | Megalon | forces Fisker into AHCI-mode |
| 14:03.23 | Megalon | TRIMs Fisker's whole ssd |
| 14:10.33 | Fisker | brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 14:14.36 | asmodai | for great justice! |
| 14:17.26 | Repo | 10snowflake-3-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r6 Snowflake-3.0.lua: first version |
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| 14:20.48 | nevcairiel | man i hate that snow |
| 14:25.40 | Mikk | haha yeah bad bad addon name right now :P |
| 14:25.59 | Mikk | going to go out and shovel half a meter of snow out of the driveway soon |
| 14:26.09 | Mikk | procrastinates |
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | i cleaned up every few hours over the weekend, or we would be sitting on that as well, i guess |
| 14:27.04 | Mikk | yeah this is stuff that has fallen from late last night |
| 14:27.31 | Mikk | i thought those clouds were only going to pester you people down south but fuckers went north too to dump the last |
| 14:35.22 | KriLL3 | bgs are fun... 2/3 rogues always running around together, wtf are you supposed to do in that situation? :( |
| 14:35.32 | KriLL3 | 3 rogues + resto shaman was even more fun |
| 14:35.50 | KriLL3 | at least I got one of the rogues |
| 14:36.10 | nevcairiel | Hm interesting, i found some tool that apparently can show usage graphs for GPU Load .. and in Dalaran my GPU is nearly maxxed while the CPU has some power to spare |
| 14:36.36 | KriLL3 | I got a tool that shows my gpu usage, never tops 40% in wow |
| 14:37.04 | KriLL3 | guess wow doesn't make much use of stream processors |
| 14:37.07 | Grum | nevcairiel: i'm guessing most of the work is for loading all the textures for people having 'unique' gear |
| 14:37.43 | nevcairiel | thats not actually gpu usage |
| 14:38.07 | Mikk | depends on how gpu usage is clocked |
| 14:38.12 | Mikk | time spent waiting for something to load? |
| 14:38.31 | nevcairiel | my i7 seems to be powerful enough to make my gpu work |
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| 14:39.49 | KriLL3 | I think HDDs are the biggest bottlenecks |
| 14:40.02 | nevcairiel | only during load |
| 14:40.47 | nevcairiel | i also have IO stats open and WoW doesnt load that much after running in circles in dalaran for 15 minutes |
| 14:41.50 | Fisker | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooord |
| 14:42.04 | Fisker | did the 3 new instances with a random healer |
| 14:42.08 | Fisker | who looks like he sucked |
| 14:42.11 | Fisker | but didn't |
| 14:42.11 | Fisker | :O |
| 14:42.26 | nevcairiel | although cpu load is at ~80% as well, on one core anyway |
| 14:42.32 | nevcairiel | and 40 on another |
| 14:42.33 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 14:42.38 | nevcairiel | turns some gfx related things off |
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| 14:49.39 | nevcairiel | turning off AA (which is clearly a GFX feature) increased CPU usage and FPS .. interesting, i didnt think i could hit a GPU cap for WoW |
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| 14:50.45 | KriLL3 | it doesn't use the GPU very efficiently |
| 14:51.31 | nevcairiel | well everyone claimed until now that wow is always CPU bound |
| 14:51.36 | nevcairiel | which in my case it clearly isnt |
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| 14:52.26 | nevcairiel | according to GPU-Z the GPU Load is always at nearly 95%, while CPU load is at about 80 |
| 14:52.37 | nevcairiel | for one core |
| 14:52.42 | nevcairiel | a second one at 40 |
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| 14:53.18 | nevcairiel | no idea how inaccurate GPU-Z may be, however |
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| 14:53.41 | nevcairiel | no argument that its not really efficient in resource usage |
| 14:53.54 | Pucmel | cpuw with 80% -> bot/exploit scanner ... cpu with 40% the game |
| 14:53.57 | Pucmel | here you go |
| 14:54.07 | nevcairiel | but the i7 seems to be fast enough to feed enough data to my GTX 260 to keep it busy |
| 14:54.22 | nevcairiel | nah wow is known to use 2 cores |
| 14:54.47 | Elkano | nevcairiel, what kind of i7? tripple-channel? |
| 14:55.17 | nevcairiel | thats a rather weird question, the memory controller doesnt impact the performance *that* much |
| 14:55.22 | nevcairiel | and no, its a lynnfield with dual channel |
| 14:56.24 | Elkano | the question wasn't related to your problem ^^ |
| 14:57.03 | nevcairiel | its not really a problem i'm having, just trying to figure out where the performance is going |
| 14:57.03 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: isn't lynnfield i5? |
| 14:57.14 | nevcairiel | i5 and i7 8xx |
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| 14:57.20 | Elkano | hmm... get a better cooling for your cpu ;) |
| 14:57.53 | nevcairiel | the cooling is fine =) |
| 14:58.22 | nevcairiel | haha activate reduce input lag, from 150fps to 50fps |
| 14:58.26 | nevcairiel | that option is so fail |
| 14:58.45 | Elkano | well, for i7, more cooling -> more power |
| 14:59.15 | nevcairiel | its running in turbo mode just fine, if you mean that |
| 14:59.24 | nevcairiel | i have a proper cooler |
| 14:59.32 | nevcairiel | i could even OC to alot more |
| 15:01.22 | Daemona | nevcairiel i trust gpu-z when showing gpu load, just idle in the login screen compared to ingame and you know it works ;) |
| 15:03.27 | nevcairiel | well then either my i7 is too fast, or my GTX 260 is too slow .. or dalaran with its gazillion of different players and textures is just a special case |
| 15:03.51 | nevcairiel | i wish i had a 2nd screen right now to keep the graphs open while playing |
| 15:04.09 | KriLL3 | I got more than one |
| 15:07.37 | Fisker | you wouldn't KriLL3 |
| 15:08.07 | ckknight | I would Fisker a Fisker |
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| 15:08.13 | Fisker | i would Fisker a ckknight |
| 15:08.20 | ckknight | ...harsh |
| 15:09.17 | Daemona | nevcairiel i pondered getting a digital photoframe for that nevcairiel, they are kinda cheap lately |
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| 15:09.33 | Daemona | usb -> 800x600 display and useable as photoframe |
| 15:09.34 | Daemona | ;) |
| 15:09.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:09.44 | nevcairiel | i want to get a new screen anyway |
| 15:09.52 | nevcairiel | can keep my old one as second then |
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| 15:10.00 | Daemona | aah ok |
| 15:10.43 | Fisker | Fisker's a ckknight with a KriLL3 on a nevcairiel wrapped in Daemona and tainted with Elkano |
| 15:10.50 | Fisker | runs |
| 15:11.08 | Daemona | But will it run Crysis Fisker? |
| 15:11.14 | Fisker | it will |
| 15:11.22 | Elkano | ~emulate fisker- |
| 15:11.23 | purl | DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 15:11.28 | SunTsu | I recently substituted an old 17" CRT by an 22" TFT - for 99 Euros *g* |
| 15:11.39 | Fisker | it's awesome SunTsu |
| 15:11.40 | ThiefMaster | curse client v4 is so slow when restoring it from systray... |
| 15:11.43 | ThiefMaster | i think v3 was much better |
| 15:11.49 | Fisker | i remember changing from 17" LCD to 22" |
| 15:11.55 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: tbh i wouldnt buy such cheap screens anymore |
| 15:11.58 | nevcairiel | down with TN panels! |
| 15:12.27 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: It was a special offer by Metro, on reopening |
| 15:12.38 | nevcairiel | for that price still TN, i'm sure |
| 15:14.41 | Polarina | ~emulate Polarina |
| 15:14.42 | purl | ACTION does a nice little dance |
| 15:14.52 | Polarina | :) |
| 15:15.06 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: what does TN mean? |
| 15:15.17 | Fisker | Tits and Nuns |
| 15:15.20 | nevcairiel | its the type of panel used |
| 15:15.26 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 15:15.51 | Fisker | TN has a worse viewing angle and arguably worse colors |
| 15:16.03 | Fisker | i believe the other type is called "IPS" and doesn't have that |
| 15:16.05 | nevcairiel | TN is Twisted netmatic |
| 15:16.10 | Fisker | But usually at the expense at response time |
| 15:16.19 | Fisker | Though it's been fixed a long time ago to be good enough |
| 15:16.25 | nevcairiel | While it has the best response times, its known for its really bad viewing angle and bad colors |
| 15:16.47 | nevcairiel | then there is (S-)PVA, which has better color and angle, and worse reponse times |
| 15:16.59 | nevcairiel | and IPS, which has the same angle/color as PVA, but slightly better respone times |
| 15:17.18 | nevcairiel | i want the new Dell IPS Display |
| 15:17.20 | nevcairiel | U2410 |
| 15:17.22 | nevcairiel | its awesome! |
| 15:17.29 | Fisker | sauce |
| 15:17.35 | Fisker | Dell makes good monitors |
| 15:17.39 | Fisker | just expensive as hell :( |
| 15:17.48 | nevcairiel | ~500 for a IPS is even cheap |
| 15:17.48 | purl | okay, nevcairiel |
| 15:17.54 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 15:18.02 | nevcairiel | purl, forget 500 for a IPS |
| 15:18.02 | purl | nevcairiel: i forgot 500 for a ips |
| 15:18.04 | Fisker | ~500 for a ISP |
| 15:18.06 | Fisker | ffffffuuuuuuuuu- |
| 15:18.11 | Fisker | i fail |
| 15:18.24 | Kalroth | IPS is worth it |
| 15:18.30 | Kalroth | colors are so much sharper |
| 15:19.45 | nevcairiel | I hope i can get it by end of january |
| 15:19.47 | SunTsu | Asus VW220T - geizkragen tells me something about 180 Euros |
| 15:20.32 | SunTsu | and still it is far better than my very old 17" CRT *g* |
| 15:20.49 | nevcairiel | of course :D |
| 15:21.33 | Fisker | The U2410 is almost double the price of a standard 24" :( |
| 15:22.14 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, do u have 2 screens |
| 15:22.41 | SunTsu | I still wonder how to substitute my 22" CRT, though ;) |
| 15:22.47 | Fisker | wtf |
| 15:22.56 | Xinhuan | if wow isn't the program in the foreground, wow caps itself to 30 fps (by default) while in the background, so unless you can read off the 2nd screen, you may have inaccurate readins |
| 15:22.58 | Xinhuan | readings |
| 15:23.10 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: 16:03:51 <@nevcairiel> i wish i had a 2nd screen right now to keep the graphs open while playin |
| 15:23.11 | Fisker | i thought that was windows |
| 15:23.29 | Xinhuan | then he definitely has inaccurate readings |
| 15:23.31 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: it does show a graph of the history of stuff while wow was in the fore ground |
| 15:23.44 | Xinhuan | aha graphs |
| 15:24.01 | Xinhuan | what tricks did u find about increasing fps? |
| 15:24.15 | nevcairiel | I just figured out that my GPU is limiting me, not my CPU |
| 15:24.26 | nevcairiel | I can turn on full shadows in dalaran for no performance hit |
| 15:24.30 | Xinhuan | did u OC the gpu |
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| 15:25.14 | nevcairiel | i'm trying that now |
| 15:25.25 | nevcairiel | it appears with a 15% GPU OC i can get my CPU to hit 100% as well |
| 15:25.26 | nevcairiel | nice =P |
| 15:25.33 | nevcairiel | (with full shadows) |
| 15:25.56 | Polarina | I max my GPU with glxgears. |
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| 15:26.45 | Daemona | sad thing is that probably the lua interpreter in wow is capping my fps :( |
| 15:26.57 | Daemona | i need to get rid of your addons i fear, nevcairiel |
| 15:26.58 | Polarina | Daemona: Disable it. |
| 15:27.25 | Xinhuan | i get about the same fps on all shadow settings between max and min (but nto max and min itself) |
| 15:27.29 | Polarina | If I were working for Blizzard, the client would already be using LuaJIT on the x86 version of the client. |
| 15:27.50 | Mikk | orly |
| 15:27.57 | Kalroth | and 90% of all addons would be broken! |
| 15:28.00 | Xinhuan | so i'm wondering whats in the "max shadow setting" |
| 15:28.05 | Xinhuan | that the rest doesn't |
| 15:28.23 | Polarina | Yes. And the Blizzard Lua code would be addonish enough that it could run entirely functional in tainted mode. |
| 15:28.28 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: what graphics card do you have? it's probably some shader command you don't support |
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| 15:28.38 | Xinhuan | gt260 |
| 15:28.40 | Kalroth | oh |
| 15:28.54 | nevcairiel | Polarina: Except they wouldn't let you do it, because your time would be spend on other things that need doing |
| 15:28.56 | Kalroth | well that's a pretty fast card, why do you think there'd be any difference? |
| 15:29.06 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 15:29.07 | nevcairiel | shadows are usually a CPU task |
| 15:29.08 | nevcairiel | not GPU |
| 15:29.09 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I doubt that. |
| 15:29.19 | Xinhuan | there's about 6 different settings for shadows right? |
| 15:29.22 | nevcairiel | Polarina: then you have no clue how professional software dev works, go away |
| 15:29.23 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I would work in my free time as well. |
| 15:29.34 | Kalroth | doesn't matter, Polarina |
| 15:29.41 | Xinhuan | i have highest fps on (min), lowest on (max), and every other setting in between has about the same fps |
| 15:29.48 | Xinhuan | so its like 3 sets of settings to me |
| 15:29.52 | Xinhuan | rather than 6 |
| 15:29.52 | Kalroth | When you change something in software, then you have to test it extensively |
| 15:30.10 | Kalroth | no way a single person can do that in a reasonable timeframe |
| 15:30.18 | steev | blergh |
| 15:30.45 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: http://www.wowwiki.com/ExtShadowQuality |
| 15:30.53 | Polarina | They would let me, eventually. |
| 15:31.01 | arkanes | I'm sure they would |
| 15:31.03 | nevcairiel | no, they wouldnt =) |
| 15:31.06 | steev | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50798 dropped yesterday - i (dk tank) lost it to the ret pally :/ |
| 15:31.08 | arkanes | I'm sure it's on someones list at Blizzard, too |
| 15:31.13 | Polarina | signs up for employment. |
| 15:31.16 | Polarina | Let's bet! |
| 15:31.23 | Kalroth | steev: haaa |
| 15:31.35 | arkanes | there's third party hacks that patch out the lua interpreter at runtime in wow today |
| 15:31.39 | arkanes | it's how some bots work |
| 15:31.39 | Polarina | Because of the NDA, I wouldn't be able to tell you anything, so if there's no LuaJIT in three years, I failed you. |
| 15:31.44 | Kalroth | I'm not fond of retardins, but I dislike dork knights even more! |
| 15:31.46 | Xinhuan | cascaded shadow maps? |
| 15:31.47 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:31.51 | arkanes | go stick luajit in that way |
| 15:31.54 | Xinhuan | its slowing down a lot |
| 15:32.06 | steev | Kalroth: heh |
| 15:32.11 | nevcairiel | i believe setting 5 isnt even available in the options UI |
| 15:32.20 | nevcairiel | at least it didnt use to be |
| 15:32.26 | steev | tell me how that weapon doesn't scream dk tank though - tons of stam+2 blue sockets! |
| 15:32.47 | Kalroth | you missed one stat |
| 15:32.52 | steev | arp? |
| 15:32.53 | nevcairiel | hm, no it is |
| 15:32.55 | Kalroth | .. |
| 15:32.58 | steev | or the expertise |
| 15:33.11 | Kalroth | steev: see, now I think it was a good idea that the ret paladin got it! |
| 15:33.19 | steev | Kalroth: neg. |
| 15:33.23 | Kalroth | pos. |
| 15:33.25 | nevcairiel | but yeah Xinhuan, the highest setting does eat fps alot |
| 15:33.28 | steev | there is only 148 str on it |
| 15:33.43 | steev | the tons of expertise definitely helps for tanking - and the arp is nice as a blood tank |
| 15:33.44 | Kalroth | so? he can add 40 str through sockets! |
| 15:33.53 | SunTsu | steev: absolutely, I'd like to have that one, too, but I got it's little brother on Marrowgar yesterday - good enough to replace Edge of Ruin *g* |
| 15:34.02 | steev | SunTsu: nice! |
| 15:34.06 | steev | it will drop again |
| 15:34.06 | Xinhuan | so you bought an i7 nev? |
| 15:34.20 | steev | im just happy we were able to get past marrowgar |
| 15:34.25 | steev | sadly i forgot to log it |
| 15:34.36 | steev | but his hits on me were much more manageable |
| 15:34.54 | steev | we had 3 alts in our run |
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| 15:35.54 | Xinhuan | i'm trying to figure out which T10 piece first to get |
| 15:35.57 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yeah the stuff finally arrived to replace my faulty system |
| 15:37.34 | SunTsu | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50761 - for the first time being hit-capped as tank ;) |
| 15:38.02 | steev | nice |
| 15:38.09 | steev | i'm not even close to being hit capped |
| 15:38.14 | steev | or expertise |
| 15:38.46 | Xinhuan | if i were to get 2 pc T10, there's 10 combinations to choose |
| 15:38.49 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 15:38.52 | Xinhuan | so much choices |
| 15:39.01 | Xinhuan | which 2 pieces would give the most upgrade! |
| 15:40.23 | quiescens | get all of them |
| 15:41.01 | SunTsu | steev: I lack expertise at all, I need some upgrades, and afterwards I'll re-gem for more expertise |
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| 15:58.11 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan, I read you had some workaround for tainted unit dropdowns |
| 15:58.24 | Xinhuan | it didn't work under certain circumstances |
| 15:58.38 | ckknight | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1261409978723.jpg |
| 15:58.58 | Xinhuan | Adirelle |
| 15:58.58 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16669 |
| 15:59.08 | Xinhuan | it didn't work when targetting an NPC i think |
| 15:59.18 | Xinhuan | but works on PCs |
| 15:59.24 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan, thanks |
| 16:00.16 | nevcairiel | hm if the dropdown system itself is tainted, how would that help? |
| 16:00.16 | Adirelle|work | I tried an uglier thing, eg. for player: unitframe:SetAttribute('*type2', 'click') unitframe:SetAttribute('*clickbutton2', PlayerFrame) |
| 16:00.47 | Adirelle|work | (also anchoring PlayerFrame to unitframe and hidding it) |
| 16:06.55 | ckknight | shudders |
| 16:08.27 | Fisker | lol i troll u |
| 16:12.19 | steev | i don't think people in my guild realize how decent my tanking set is |
| 16:13.03 | Fisker | lol they troll u? |
| 16:13.25 | Fisker | soo |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker | xperia x10 or nexus one |
| 16:13.31 | Fisker | do giev |
| 16:14.04 | Lysithea | anyone know if the author of RankWatch (Gronzig) usually resides in here? |
| 16:14.13 | Fisker | ~seen gronzig |
| 16:14.14 | purl | i haven't seen 'gronzig', Fisker |
| 16:14.29 | Fisker | unless he goes by another name then he doesn't |
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| 16:15.17 | Lysithea | hrm, got a weird bug with his addon, just stops reporting without any errors, guess Ill make a ticket... without any usefull information :( |
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| 16:23.06 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill me |
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| 16:23.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6904 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 16:26.18 | steev | i would |
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| 16:34.45 | yoshimo | Lysithea , i downloaded this addon only to analyze it, and forgot about it, then in pugs i noticed how many people use the wrong rank of their spells... i didnt think they are so many ;) |
| 16:35.01 | Lysithea | yeah same here |
| 16:35.10 | Lysithea | not a single bg today that someone hasnt failed in |
| 16:35.32 | Lysithea | installed it today |
| 16:35.37 | Lysithea | have had 120+ reports so far |
| 16:35.45 | Lysithea | Im quite baffled |
| 16:35.50 | yoshimo | doesnt learning a new rank update the actionbars with the new rank? |
| 16:36.20 | Lysithea | think many miss fixing it with dual specs |
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| 16:38.54 | yoshimo | if i respec to retribution, and learn the spells once at the trainer, and switch back to holy, the char will remember that he learned the retri-spells when i switch back, wont he? |
| 16:40.51 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:41.36 | yoshimo | so people should only fail once ;) |
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| 17:07.13 | AckisMobile | Hi |
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| 17:10.23 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-31-g2bfce3f modules/range.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed range checking using hostile spell checks on friendlies and friendly spell checks on hostiles (Oops!) |
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| 17:24.42 | KriLL3 | is there an addon like ACP or similar to save sets of addons and lets you enable different sets in an automated fashion, or with bar buttons/macros etc? |
| 17:25.12 | KriLL3 | say I want some addons while pvping, some while tanking, some while dps:ing and some while solo/questing/dailies etc |
| 17:25.41 | ckknight | Happy Winter Solstice, everyone |
| 17:25.54 | KriLL3 | the proper xmas |
| 17:27.01 | Adremma | KriLL3: I haven't used it myself, but TOAD looks promising as an addition to ACP |
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| 17:27.46 | Adremma | @describe toad |
| 17:27.47 | Repo | Adremma: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/toad/. Toad. TOAD, or Task Oriented Addon Director, is an addon manager that builds on top of ACP (Addon Control Panel) to provide easy, p... |
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| 17:36.49 | KriLL3 | Adremma: I'll try it, thx |
| 17:38.27 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r227 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: Merged localization from Rules module |
| 17:39.28 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r228 Rules (3 files in 1 directory): Turned rule editor into a proper module |
| 17:39.30 | Repo | Moved localization to core |
| 17:39.31 | Repo | Implemented handling of invalid rule elements |
| 17:43.42 | steev | http://www.superpoop.com/122109/age-sex-location.jpg |
| 17:43.44 | steev | don't be alarmed by the domain name |
| 17:43.46 | steev | its actually work safe |
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| 17:48.52 | SunTsu | steev: I hoped it was not |
| 17:49.00 | steev | :( |
| 17:49.13 | steev | i try not to post nsfw stuff to irc, unless its REALLY funny |
| 17:49.37 | steev | since... i work for a content filtering company, 90% of my day is spent viewing stuff thats nsfw |
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| 17:50.02 | steev | the other 10% is spent laughing about it and sharing the good stuff with friends |
| 17:50.18 | Megalon | sharing the good stuff |
| 17:50.20 | Megalon | me likes |
| 17:50.40 | steev | anywho, off to the store |
| 17:51.01 | yoshimo | is there an addon that supresses this "you arent in a raid" messages? |
| 17:51.22 | nevcairiel | what was the name of that addon that let you fine tune gfx settings that are not available from the default settings ui? |
| 17:52.39 | EthanCentaurai | nevcairiel: TweakWoW iirc |
| 17:52.50 | nevcairiel | !addon tweakwow |
| 17:52.52 | lua_bot | TweakWoW (v. 2.9.6) last updated Sat Dec 12 20:02 (http://is.gd/5wmQg) |
| 17:53.02 | EthanCentaurai | yoshimo: yes, it's called "update bigwigs" and "update littlewigs" :p |
| 17:53.42 | EthanCentaurai | or moan at the author of whatever bossmod you use |
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| 17:56.28 | yoshimo | ethan, bigwigs and littlewigs wont enable in isle of conquest , will they? ;) |
| 17:56.42 | EthanCentaurai | no idea, I don't PvP |
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| 17:57.13 | EthanCentaurai | then again, I didn't know you were in IoC ;) |
| 17:57.33 | EthanCentaurai | so sorry |
| 17:58.06 | yoshimo | i know that trying to use /rw in a 5man party will fail, but i have both of those addons on the most recent svn checkout and announce is disabled, so it has to be another addon |
| 17:58.35 | KriLL3 | what healing pala ability is it that restores a bunch of hp instantly sans cast time? |
| 17:59.09 | KriLL3 | just met a healer pala and got him to 2k, then he had full hp again, rinse and repeat much too fast for LoH and he didn't gain mana |
| 17:59.10 | yoshimo | lay on hands krill3? |
| 17:59.23 | KriLL3 | no he used it multiple times |
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| 18:00.44 | yoshimo | instant there is holyshock, but i doubt that gets you back to full hp |
| 18:02.07 | SunTsu | KriLL3: You can get it down to 12 minutes, I think. It's only Holy Shock that's instant, with a talent point you can get a crit make flash heal instant |
| 18:02.57 | SunTsu | Holy Shock can be forced to crit, but has a CD of 6 seconds, which can probably modified |
| 18:03.19 | yoshimo | i flashheal for about 6,8k hp with t9 |
| 18:03.47 | SunTsu | yoshimo: yeah, I do around that, too, with badge stuff |
| 18:04.14 | yoshimo | with improved devotion aura and 100%crit i get it to 8k |
| 18:04.17 | SunTsu | Still, with tanks around 40-50k life, only a drop |
| 18:04.43 | yoshimo | thats why you usually use more than one healer |
| 18:05.41 | SunTsu | yoshimo: Yeah, but KriLL3 was looking for smth. that is instant and does incredible heal, which Flash Heal just doesn't do |
| 18:06.41 | yoshimo | health potion& loh maybe? |
| 18:08.20 | SunTsu | Well, critting a shock and immediately flashing afterwards can look like one big instant heal |
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| 18:17.57 | Gnarfoz | remember, as Groktar pointed out, KriLL3 is bad |
| 18:17.58 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 18:25.18 | KriLL3 | yes, horrible, can't kill holy palas in reti gear |
| 18:26.25 | KriLL3 | not sure how to combat a player that can instantly regain a lot of hp without even casting |
| 18:27.59 | SunTsu | I think, the best advice is like all PvP: "don't" ;) |
| 18:28.20 | Gnarfoz | regain a lot of hp without casting |
| 18:28.27 | Gnarfoz | ^-- get better observation skills |
| 18:28.40 | KriLL3 | I got addons that show their cast bar, nothing |
| 18:28.41 | Gnarfoz | or a combatlog addon |
| 18:28.51 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 18:29.01 | Gnarfoz | holy shock + healpot + GS = no castbar |
| 18:29.03 | Gnarfoz | LoH = no castbar |
| 18:29.07 | Gnarfoz | external heals: NO CASTBAR |
| 18:29.09 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 18:29.17 | KriLL3 | "without casting" aka something you can't interupt |
| 18:29.24 | KriLL3 | no one close enough to heal him |
| 18:29.31 | Gnarfoz | ...that you noticed. |
| 18:29.38 | KriLL3 | humanoid tracking silly |
| 18:30.03 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 18:32.43 | pentium166 | it was one of those healing touch tree druids |
| 18:33.24 | nevcairiel | 18k instant heals are awesome, hmkay? |
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| 18:34.05 | nevcairiel | could probably push it more if you spec for it |
| 18:36.21 | Gnarfoz | go dreamstate |
| 18:40.17 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: :( |
| 18:40.42 | Shadowed | oh nevcairiel, do you know what controls the height spacing in AceGUI-3.0 per widget? I thought it was alignoffset but that doesn't seem to be it |
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| 18:47.46 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r429 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
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| 19:06.45 | KriLL3 | are random dailies the same for everyone on that day? |
| 19:07.14 | CrazyBenny_ | how can be random same? |
| 19:07.33 | KriLL3 | come again? |
| 19:07.41 | CrazyBenny_ | not that my questtion amde a sense |
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| 19:07.59 | CrazyBenny_ | how can be somethign random same for everyone? |
| 19:08.09 | KriLL3 | on that day |
| 19:08.21 | CrazyBenny_ | that wouldnt be too random |
| 19:11.42 | Hid | CrazyBenny_, So if you roll a dice that more than 1 person can see, that means it isn't random? |
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| 19:13.54 | CrazyBenny_ | not liek the dungeon system rolls once, and then repeats it for everyone durign the day |
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| 19:15.06 | yoshimo | its more like "some group is looking for a healer/dps/tank and missing one guy, if you say "rndm heroic" and the role fits, you get assigned to this group |
| 19:15.10 | Hid | I assumed he meant random daily QUESTS, ie bg daily, etc (which the random daily dungeon option isn't) |
| 19:15.36 | yoshimo | i can get oculus, my friend can get utgarde, on the same server |
| 19:15.45 | KriLL3 | dailies = daily quest |
| 19:15.53 | KriLL3 | has nothing to do with LFD tool |
| 19:16.09 | Hid | Right, then I didn't misunderstand :) |
| 19:16.19 | KriLL3 | aka random cooking daily, random fishing daily, random pvp daily, etc etc |
| 19:16.20 | Hid | The random daily quests are the same for everyone on that day, yes |
| 19:16.46 | Hid | (on that realm) |
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| 19:17.20 | KriLL3 | ah so that's why the bg that's daily doesn't get more people, it's not the same on the whole battlegroup |
| 19:17.54 | Thoraine | Hi guys can anyone explain to me why /run local n,_,_,_,_,_,_,c=UnitDebuff("target","Stormstrike") if c~="player" and GetSpellCooldown("Earth Shock")==0 then SendChatMessage("1") end doesn't work? |
| 19:18.39 | Hid | I'm actually not 100% sure if it applies to the whole BG or only the realm (I would assume only the realm, though) |
| 19:20.08 | Hid | Although, since there isn't that many different battlegrounds, the daily bg quest will most likely be spread out pretty evenly across the different realms in the battlegroup, making participation in all battlegrounds about even |
| 19:20.31 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:20.50 | KriLL3 | then again who knows when it comes to blizzard RNG |
| 19:21.05 | KriLL3 | feel very non random at times =P |
| 19:21.50 | Hid | Some days you can notice that certain BGs are more active than usual though, could be because a majority of the realms in the BG got the same daily |
| 19:21.57 | Hid | hehe |
| 19:23.10 | Hid | Well, blizzard likes to balance server/instance load, so I would be very suprised if they didn't think of this and made sure that the daily bg quests are random on a per-realm basis and not per-bgroup |
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| 19:23.31 | Hid | Anyways, going off to finish up some christmas stuff, gah. |
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| 19:50.59 | Repo | 91bec49: Fix cached message in case of multiple "Best in profile" matches. |
| 19:51.00 | Repo | 585e8a5: bumping version in anticipation of bugfix release |
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| 20:04.26 | KriLL3 | enemy priest up on a tall arc in crystalsong cast mind vision on me standing bellow hitting an ent with my fists... why? |
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| 20:16.16 | Greywolf6590 | hey |
| 20:17.31 | Greywolf6590 | has anyone found an easy way around the spell_aura_applied deficiency in the combat log? one of the addons I wrote completely depends on that notification and I can't seem to understand the "unit_aura" alternative. |
| 20:19.09 | Greywolf6590 | Is anyone even here? |
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| 20:28.18 | yoshimo | Greywolf6590 , unitaura returns spellids, maybe you could scan through all buffs/debuffs? |
| 20:29.13 | yoshimo | apart from that, hope blizzard fixes the spell you want to have |
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| 20:33.08 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r229 Rules (3 files in 1 directory): Bug fixes |
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| 20:34.16 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r231 Libs/LibSchema-1.0/LibSchema-1.0.lua: More Lua-like path representation |
| 20:35.23 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r114 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Re-mine all WotLK instances |
| 20:35.25 | Repo | - Add in Argent Crusade Tribute Chest (Anub'arak) |
| 20:35.26 | Repo | - Add in Deathbringer's Cache (Deathbringer Saurfang) |
| 20:39.01 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r232 Libs/LibSchema-1.0/LibSchema-1.0.lua: Updated svn:keywords |
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| 20:43.20 | Primer | ahh so nice to have svn web |
| 20:43.22 | Primer | http://www.ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/tomtom/diff/trunk/TomTom_POIIntegration.lua?rev1=234;rev2=235 |
| 20:43.26 | Primer | not even my addon! |
| 20:44.20 | Primer | fixes his addon from TomTom's borrowed code |
| 20:45.39 | Primer | I still want to know why clicking on POI's on the map some times makes them disappear |
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| 20:46.10 | KriLL3 | is there an addon yet that keeps the POI blips but kills the side and bottom bars? |
| 20:46.17 | KriLL3 | would be nice |
| 20:46.43 | Primer | yeah, QuestHelper |
| 20:46.44 | Primer | hehe |
| 20:47.14 | KriLL3 | =P |
| 20:47.28 | KriLL3 | I basically want QH without the 10 ton junk in the trunk |
| 20:49.16 | Primer | yeah, I've since disabled QH |
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| 20:49.48 | KriLL3 | figured tomtom + POI icons - sidebar and bottombar would be a good replacement |
| 20:50.16 | KriLL3 | side and bottom shrink the map too much imo, and they're not very useful, can open the quest log if I need details, I just need location usually |
| 20:50.50 | KriLL3 | don't understand why the map is 4:3 even on widescreen, could put a bigger sidebar with that stuff in it next to a fully sized map |
| 20:50.54 | Primer | I'd like to see a way to click the POI and have it go to the quest log entry |
| 20:51.13 | Primer | open the quest log, and go to that entry, tha tis |
| 20:51.21 | KriLL3 | a bit weird that's not in default, also weird that the quest log doesn't link to POI icons when you click objectives |
| 20:51.33 | KriLL3 | needs some work |
| 20:51.44 | KriLL3 | also some objectives are missing |
| 21:01.06 | yoshimo | Whitetooth , how about extending your old yaiap addon to filter "you arent in a raid" as well? |
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| 21:20.04 | mitchnull | is/was there a known issue with any addon causing wow crash with /reloadui? |
| 21:20.22 | Yssaril | mitchnull: only if it takes to long |
| 21:20.56 | mitchnull | hm. now it happened on first load :( |
| 21:21.23 | Yssaril | are you tabbing out of wow during the reload? |
| 21:22.21 | mitchnull | no |
| 21:22.24 | mitchnull | or |
| 21:22.26 | mitchnull | maybe :) |
| 21:22.35 | mitchnull | didn't pay attention to that |
| 21:23.25 | Yssaril | personaly i can crash wow with a reliability of 80ish percent when i tab out right after a reload or login before the first part of the progress bar appears |
| 21:23.31 | mitchnull | ok, now I didn't tab out and /rl killed it |
| 21:23.55 | mitchnull | I'll try without addons |
| 21:24.06 | Primer | mitchnull: I've had a bunch of crashes on /rl |
| 21:24.20 | Primer | even if they didn't seem to take too long |
| 21:24.30 | KriLL3 | you 2 should compare addons |
| 21:24.32 | Primer | haven't had any recently, but then I haven't been developing much |
| 21:24.41 | Primer | and hence not /rl'ing much |
| 21:25.18 | Primer | heh, I just alphabetized my Locale-enUS.lua |
| 21:25.26 | mitchnull | 3 /rl in a row, no prob. alt-tab during 4th, crash... |
| 21:25.39 | Primer | I hope that'll make it easier to manage, and easier for translators |
| 21:26.18 | Yssaril | Primer: just use the online translation tool it puts it in alphabetical order for you |
| 21:26.34 | orionshock | <3 web app for translations |
| 21:26.41 | KriLL3 | mitchnull: you're on a single monitor system? |
| 21:26.44 | Primer | meh, I cat file | sort |
| 21:27.10 | Yssaril | orionshock: btw do you know if there is a way for the packager to automatically import things into the translation app? |
| 21:27.11 | Primer | Yssaril: but where is said online translation tool? |
| 21:27.20 | orionshock | Yssaril: no |
| 21:27.52 | orionshock | however, you can jack the babblefish.lua file from Bartender4, modify it accordingly and pull your translations from your addon file |
| 21:27.57 | Yssaril | Primer: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssbossloot/localization/ |
| 21:28.32 | mitchnull | krill3: yes |
| 21:28.43 | Yssaril | Primer: change yssbossloot with your addonname of course |
| 21:29.11 | Yssaril | Primer: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/localizing-your-project/ <--- KB article for it |
| 21:29.40 | mitchnull | is it possible to anchor stuff to UIParent during addon load time? |
| 21:29.50 | nevcairiel | sure why not |
| 21:29.53 | mitchnull | or one should wait for PEW or somesuch |
| 21:30.13 | mitchnull | dunno, never needed to create/anchor a frame that early before |
| 21:30.27 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.2b-1-gaf536d0 miner.lua: [+1 commit] miner will now checksum old and new file to check for differences if different we commit,tag, and push if not we just leave it be |
| 21:32.06 | mitchnull | hrmp, my de-anchoring suxors somewhere :( |
| 21:38.19 | orionshock | mitchn yes you can anchor to UIParent in the main block.. remember that bilzz addons load before ours do |
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| 21:46.16 | olafski | < Yssaril> personaly i can crash wow with a reliability of 80ish percent when i tab out right after a reload or login before the first part of the progress bar appears <-- same.. rather strange |
| 21:48.14 | mitchnull | yeah, good to know it wasn't my hacks to bazooka that caused the crash ;) |
| 21:52.57 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r233 Rules (2 files in 1 directory): Automatic rule naming |
| 21:53.19 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r234 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: Label for automatic rule naming |
| 21:55.53 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r235 / (3 files in 1 directory): Preparing for release 1.1.0 Beta 1 |
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| 21:57.44 | Primer | Yssaril: thanks |
| 21:58.36 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.1.0 Beta 1 * r236 : Tagging as 1.1.0 Beta 1 |
| 21:58.37 | mitchnull | gah |
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| 22:00.01 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.9 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog |
| 22:00.06 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.9 * 2be8217 /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.9 |
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| 22:07.10 | mitchnull | nev: is it possible to open the options panel with a tab selected? (like, I have 3 tabs on the main panel, and I want to open the blizz options for that panel but with tab2 selected already) |
| 22:07.21 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 22:08.09 | mitchnull | any easy example lying around somewhere? :) |
| 22:08.09 | pakoz | Anyone have a link to auctionlite script examples (trying to make some to determine profit margins on crafts)? |
| 22:08.09 | Primer | nevcairiel: is there any way to make Quartz NOT show a debuff bar for channeled spells? For example, on my lock when I drain soul, I see that on my cast bar and the mob's debuff bars |
| 22:08.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:08.23 | Primer | Can you make it so? |
| 22:08.26 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:08.26 | durcyn | there's no filtering by default |
| 22:08.29 | pakoz | primer, look for Deaden |
| 22:08.37 | pakoz | old addon for RoS |
| 22:08.38 | durcyn | Deaden is only castbars |
| 22:08.52 | pakoz | ah |
| 22:09.23 | Primer | adds a feature request to Quartz... |
| 22:09.31 | nevcairiel | wont help :P |
| 22:09.47 | mitchnull | nev: AceConfigDialog:SelectGroup(appName, ...) <- an I on the right track? |
| 22:09.55 | Primer | just because you won't do it, don't maintain it any more, don't think it's a worthy addition? |
| 22:10.12 | nevcairiel | a bit of everything |
| 22:10.15 | Primer | inquiring minds want to know |
| 22:11.19 | durcyn | Primer: look at Buffs.lua:248 or so |
| 22:11.19 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 07bar-to-bar-attach * r119 Bazooka.lua: bar anchoring mostly works, still lot of debug info left in |
| 22:13.30 | Primer | durcyn: no such file |
| 22:13.41 | Primer | unless you don't mean under Quartz |
| 22:13.54 | durcyn | Quartz/Buffs or Quartz_Buffs, depending on your packaging |
| 22:14.06 | Primer | yeah, I see it now |
| 22:14.14 | durcyn | nymbia was suffering from module diarhea when he put that together |
| 22:15.32 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r82 / (4 files in 3 directories): Added tag 2.0.19 for changeset 66e29db117e2 |
| 22:15.34 | Repo | Added IsMasterLooter() to LibGroup-1.0 |
| 22:15.48 | Primer | so UnitBuff doesn't return return anything to indicate it's channeled |
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| 22:20.22 | orionshock | Primer: but it does return the spell ID that you can use to filter stuff out |
| 22:21.13 | mitchnull | lua> print(math.huge) |
| 22:21.13 | Primer | sure |
| 22:21.14 | lua_bot | mitchnull: inf |
| 22:21.49 | ulic | would some take that picture off http://www.wowace.com/, it gives me bad dreams. |
| 22:22.13 | Groktar | creeps up behind Primer with a rag and a bottle of ether |
| 22:22.27 | Groktar | drags Primer's unconscious body into his van |
| 22:22.36 | Groktar | drops Primer off in a pug with KriLL3 |
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| 22:23.34 | ckknight | lulz, ulic |
| 22:23.47 | ckknight | it is a pretty creepy dog |
| 22:26.35 | Pneumatus | wait what |
| 22:26.39 | Pneumatus | wowace has a frontpage |
| 22:26.54 | Groktar | no it doesn't |
| 22:26.55 | onaforeignshore | so's the in-game pug |
| 22:27.04 | Groktar | sounds like you've been hacked or something |
| 22:27.09 | ulic | ckknight: I'm not sure if it's better than you're use of lolcatz or not though, it's a toss up. |
| 22:27.37 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: there's a bug with the mercurial repository - though it says .pkgmeta "Package as:" overrides the website, it's the other way around in practice |
| 22:28.21 | onaforeignshore | had "guilder" on site, "Guilder" in .pkgmeta and it made it "guilder" and missed my move-folders until I renamed it on the website |
| 22:28.52 | ulic | if some one has some patience for my feeble brain, is it possible to get a short explination of why someone would put a function in side a do...end? |
| 22:29.21 | Pneumatus | to limit its scope |
| 22:29.31 | Pneumatus | or for code collapsing in an editor, perhaps |
| 22:29.35 | Pneumatus | but generally, to limit its scope |
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| 22:34.52 | yoshimo | ulic, they should have used a real moose on that page ;) |
| 22:35.27 | onaforeignshore | aren't local variables inside a do...end only visible in there as opposed to local variables declared outside functions and do...end blocks which are visible anywhere in the addon? |
| 22:36.05 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: aka scope |
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| 22:41.32 | Factors | Question about GAthermate addon for Wow how can i add node if i find them and addon does not know the location i have found? |
| 22:41.48 | Shefki | Gather it. |
| 22:42.03 | Factors | and gathermate will add it? |
| 22:42.18 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 22:42.35 | Factors | it's a Gas cloud does that matter? |
| 22:42.46 | KriLL3 | no |
| 22:43.09 | Shefki | Speaking of gas clouds I need to stop being lazy. It's been a year and I still haven't done decent iconns for them. |
| 22:43.31 | Factors | sorry one more thing will it show up on map right after i gather it? |
| 22:43.43 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 22:44.15 | Factors | hmm lol what if it doesn't? i'm not seeing the one i found on map |
| 22:44.30 | KriLL3 | do you have gas clouds showing? |
| 22:44.51 | Factors | yea i see all the other clouds on map but not the one i just found |
| 22:45.03 | KriLL3 | is there one really close? |
| 22:45.20 | Factors | not at all |
| 22:45.56 | Factors | one i found is 56,38 closest one is 59,41 |
| 22:46.02 | Factors | or is that considered close? |
| 22:50.21 | Megalon | gas cloudes are not mineral nodes or herbs |
| 22:50.26 | Megalon | they move quite a bit around |
| 22:51.30 | yoshimo | fishes also move, dont they? |
| 22:52.00 | yoshimo | megalon, gas clouds count as npcs not objects ;) |
| 22:52.30 | Factors | yea i understand there more of a guess or idea where they are at |
| 22:54.41 | Factors | is there some way to just add the by like editing usergas.yaml or some other file? i'm thinking just gathering gas clouds its not adding them |
| 22:54.57 | Shefki | I can tell you that they get added here. |
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| 22:55.58 | Factors | you mean when you try it? |
| 22:57.17 | Shefki | <- Did the Northrend Gas Cloud support. |
| 22:57.44 | Shefki | I haven't flown out and tried it right just now. |
| 22:57.51 | Shefki | But I know it's added them in the past. |
| 22:59.25 | Factors | hehe alrighty |
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| 23:12.08 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r134 Core.lua: Testing support for a minimal dataset |
| 23:13.44 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r96 / (9 files in 1 directory): Various fixes. Lots of them. |
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| 23:42.02 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r97 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:42.04 | Repo | Add Dalaran fishing daily gems, use built-in WHITE8X8 instead of our whitepixel.tga. |
| 23:42.08 | asmodai | Xinhuan: oh wow |
| 23:42.24 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 23:42.37 | asmodai | Actually working on that one :D |
| 23:45.00 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 23:48.09 | mitchnull | nev: is it safe to use opts.userdata.appName (where ops = ACD:AddToBlizOptions(...)) ? |
| 23:48.16 | mitchnull | s/ops/opts/ |
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| 23:57.30 | asmodai | is free until 3rd of Jan, yay |
